##VIDEO ID:exO38AuPCiI## WELCOME.  I WILL CALL OUR BLOOMINGTON CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER TONIGHT AS MONDAY AUGUST 26, 2024. THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE THIS EVENING AND FOR WATCHING ONLINE. WE WILL START OUR MEETING AS WE ALWAYS DO IF YOU ARE ABLE PLEASE STAND. TAKE OFF ANY LEAD YOU MIGHT HAVE AND JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.  I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.  ONCE AGAIN, THANKS TO EVERYBODY WHO WAS HERE THIS EVENING ON THIS STEAMY AUGUST NIGHT. AND THANKS TO THE FOLKS WATCHING AT HOME. OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS AS IT ALWAYS IS BEYOND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE IS APPROVAL OF OUR AGENDA AND OUR AGENDA TONIGHT.  THIS EVENING IN COUNCIL WE HAVE THREE INTRODUCTORY ITEMS. THE FIRST IS A PROCLAMATION FOR OUR BORN AGAIN JOCKS BORN AGAIN JOCKS WEEK WHICH IS COMING UP. ITEM 2.2 IS AN UPDATE OUR OUR BLOOMINGTON TOMORROW TOGETHER STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS ITEM 2.3 IS AN UPDATE ON THE COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER.  UNDER OUR CONSENT BUSINESS WE HAVE 11 ITEMS ON THE CONSENT CALEAR THIS EVENING AND COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN HAS OUR CONSENT BUSINESS. THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN FOR DOING THAT. UNDER ITEM FOUR ARE HEARINGS, RESOLUTIONS AND ORDINANCES. WE HAVE ONE PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT THAT IS REGARDING A PARTIAL VACATION OF A PUBLIC DRAINAGE AND UTILITY EASEMENT . YET ITEM FIVE ARE ORGANIZATIONAL BUSINESS AND WE'VE GOT FIVE ITEMS THERE. THE FIRST IS AN UPDATE ON OUR CANNABIS BUSINESS REGISTRATION STANDARDS AND ZONING STUDY ITEM WHILE WHERE WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT SHORT TERM RENTALS. ANOTHER ITEM WE'RE GOING TO BE IN 5.3 WHERE WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT MAXIMIZING SALES TAX REVENUES. AND 5.4 WILL BE OUR CITY COUNCIL POLICY AND ISSUE UPDATE AND WE WILL ACTUALLY END OUR MEETING TONIGHT WITH EIGHT AND 5.5 WITH A CLOSED SESSION. A FIRE STATION ACQUISITION ACQUISITION DISCUSSION. SO ITEM 5.5 WILL BE A CLOSED SESSION. WE'LL HAVE TO CLEAR THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS FOR THAT CLOSED SESSION OF THE CITY COUNCIL COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS OR ADDITIONS TO TONIGHT'S AGENDA? IF NOT I WOULD MOVE TONIGHT'S AGENDA STATED.  SECOND MOTION AND THE SECOND TO APPROVE TONIGHT'S AGENDA AS STATED. NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSE THE MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO. COUNCIL CARTER I THINK IS ON HER WAY DOWNSTAIRS.  FIRST ITEM IS ITEM TWO. POINT ONE IS A PROCLAMATION FOR OUR BLOOMINGTON BORN AGAIN JACK WEEK AND I'M GOING TO HEAD DOWN TO THE PODIUM  AND THEN 2.1 IS A PROCLAMATION FOR BLOOMINGTON BORN AGAIN JOCK'S 40TH ANNIVERSARY YEAR AND WE'VE GOT A BUNCH OF OUR BORN AGAIN JOCKS HERE. EVERYBODY COME ON UP. WHY DON'T YOU JOIN ME HERE? IT'S A MUCH BETTER CAMERA SHOT IF WE CAN GET EVERYBODY ON CAMERA. MM HMM. IT'S ALWAYS ABOUT THE CAMERAS . PUT THAT RIGHT THERE. THAT'S PERFECT .  IT IS GREAT TO HAVE EVERYBODY HERE WITH US TONIGHT. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.  AND THIS PROCLAMATION IS FOR BLOOMINGTON BORN AGAIN JOCK'S 40TH ANNIVERSARY YEAR AUGUST 21ST THROUGH 31ST 2024 WHEREAS THE BLOOMINGTON BORN AGAIN JOCKS THE BADGERS WAS FOUNDED IN 1984 AND. WHEREAS THE ORGANIZATION IS A VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATION IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AND HAS GROWN IN MEMBERSHIP FROM ABOUT 20 MEN TO THE CURRENT 500 MEN. AND. WHEREAS, THE BADGE ORGANIZATION OFFERS SPORTING OPPORTUNITIES IN SOFTBALL, GOLF, BOWLING, TENNIS, BOCCE BALL BIKING AND VOLLEYBALL.  AND. WHEREAS, THE BJS CONTRIBUTE TO THE BLOOMINGTON COMMUNITY IN MANY WAYS THROUGH SCHOLARSHIPS FOR OUR KENNEDY AND JEFFERSON STUDENTS AND BY DONATING TO THE LOCAL BLOOMINGTON ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION.  AND. WHEREAS, THE ORGANIZATION SERVES THE GREATER BLOOMINGTON COMMUNITY WITH AN OPPORTUNITY FOR FITNESS, FELLOWSHIP AND GOOD NATURED COMPETITION WITH A SPIRIT OF FRIENDSHIP. NOW THEREFORE I'M MAYOR TIM BUSSEY DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE WEEK OF AUGUST 26TH THROUGH 31ST AS BORN AGAIN JACK'S WEEK. IN DOING SO THE CITY ACKNOWLEDGES OUR 40TH ANNIVERSARY AND THEIR MANY CONTRIBUTIONS TO OUR CITY AND ITS CITIZENS DATA THIS 26TH DAY OF AUGUST 2024. NOW WHEN I READ THIS FOUNDED IN 1984, I REALIZE MY GOODNESS THAT WAS MY FIRST YEAR OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL AND HAS IT BEEN 40 YEARS MY GOODNESS ALREADY I CAN'T EVEN BEGIN TO IMAGINE THAT AND I AM NOT YET A BORN AGAIN JACK. I WAS NEVER A JACK TO BEGIN WITH SO THAT WOULDN'T WORK FOR ME SO BUT VERY PLEASED AND HAPPY AND PROUD TO RECOGNIZE YOUR ORGANIZATION BECAUSE I KNOW THE WORK THAT YOU DO ACROSS THE COMMUNITY AND I KNOW THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT YOU PROVIDE FOR FOLKS AND VERY GRATEFUL AND APPRECIATIVE. I'M GOING TO TURN THE MICROPHONE OVER NOW TO LYLE AVLON WHO'S GOING TO TALK JUST A BIT ABOUT OUR FRIENDS, THE MORGAN JACKS. COME ON IN , LYLE.  THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBERS YES, WE ARE 40 YEARS OLD THIS YEAR LIKE YOU SAID. WE ARE WE ARE ORIGINATED IN 1984.  AND MR. MAYOR, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A JACK TO BE VAGUE HERE, OKAY? WE ARE OFTEN TO BE JACKS. OKAY. BUT YES WE HAVE WE HAVE ABOUT 500 MEMBERS. WE OFFER EIGHT DIFFERENT ATHLETIC OPPORTUNITIES AND SOME OF US PARTICIPATE IN ONE SOME PARTICIPATE IN FOUR OR FIVE. AND SO FORTH.  BUT WE DO OFFER A VERY NICE SOCIABLE SPORT LIKE OPPORTUNITY TO BE FRIENDLY AND DEVELOP SOME CAMARADERIE. CAMARADERIE OUR AGES ARE ARRANGED FROM ABOUT 57 THIS YEAR TO 93 SO WE SERVICE THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY AND SO FORTH . ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE MOST PROUD OF IS THAT WE DO GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY. WE HAVE AN ANNUAL PANCAKE BREAKFAST EVERY FIRST SUNDAY OF OCTOBER HELD AT THE BLOOMINGTON EVENT CENTER AND FROM THE PROCEEDS FROM THAT WE GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY IN THE FORM OF SCHOLARSHIPS TO THE ATHLETES AT AT KENNEDY AND JEFFERSON WE GIVE A VERY SIZABLE DONATION TO THE TO THE BLOOMINGTON ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION WHICH IS THE AREA THAT WE MOST MOST OF US KNOW IT AS IT SERVES THE YOUNGER YOUTH, THE YOUNGER ATHLETE OF BLOOMINGTON AND THEY USE IT FOR SCHOLARSHIPS, FOR EQUIPMENT AND FOR WHATEVER THEY THEY NEED TO MEET THEIR BUDGET AND SO FORTH. SO WE'RE PROUD OF THAT.  YES, WE DO HAVE 500 MEMBERS AND WE INTEND TO GROW. SO IF YOU NOTICE IN FRONT OF US WE HAVE A WEBSITE WE ENCOURAGE THE PUBLIC TO GO TO THE WEBSITE, LEARN ABOUT EIGHT SPORTS, LEARN ABOUT OUR ORGANIZATION AND THEN JOIN US AGAIN. I'D LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE COUNCIL PEOPLE. THANK YOU TO THE MEMBERS AND MR. MAYOR, THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. LOUD CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU AND TO ALL OF YOU AND TO ALL THE BORN AGAIN JOCKS IN BLOOMINGTON.  THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMITMENT TO THE COMMUNITY AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR YOUR ZEST, YOUR WILLINGNESS TO TAKE IT ON I MEAN TO HAVE FUN IS GREAT AND SO GLAD THAT YOU'RE DOING THIS AND I'M GLAD YOU'RE PART OF OUR COMMUNITY.  SO CONGRATULATIONS. AND NOW COMES THE BEST PART WE HAVE TO TAKE THE PICTURE.  WE GET TO DO THE GRIPPING SO EVERYBODY HERE ACT LIKE EACH OTHER. OKAY, READY?  ONE, TWO, THREE AND WE'LL DO ONE MORE. ONE, TWO, THREE. GREAT.  VERY GOOD. THANK YOU SO VERY  GOOD.  DON'T FORGET TO SIGN UP NOW AND IN 2.2 ON OUR AGENDA IS AN UPDATE ON OUR BLOOMINGTON TOMORROW TOGETHER STRATEGIC PLAN AND.  I KNOW WE'VE GOT A NUMBER OF STAFF MEMBERS HERE TONIGHT WHO ARE GOING TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS AND SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING MORE ABOUT IT. WHO'S GOING TO LEAD THIS OFF AND WILL BE.  GOOD EVENING, CAITLYN. WELCOME. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.  TONIGHT I HAVE WITH ME MEMBERS OF THE BETTER COORDINATION TEAM. IF YOU GUYS WANT TO STAND UP,  WE'RE HERE TO PRESENT THE MOST RECENT QUARTERS UPDATES FOR THE BLOOMINGTON TOMORROW TOGETHER STRATEGIC PLAN .  UM WELL I'M WAITING FOR THE SLIDES TO COME UP. I CAN QUICKLY INTRODUCE OUR COORDINATION TEAM AND KIND OF WHAT OUR ROLE IS. WE HELP FACILITATE QUARTERLY GROUP CHECK INS WITH THE INITIATIVE OWNERS PROPERTY BOTH INTERNALLY AND EXTERNALLY AND THEN HELP IDENTIFY OPPORTUNITIES FOR FURTHER INNOVATION WITH ALL OF THE INITIATIVES. SO WE MEET BIWEEKLY NOW JUST KIND OF GET TOGETHER TO DISCUSS THAT SO CAITLYN, CAN I ASK YOU JUST PULL THE MICROPHONE JUST A LITTLE BIT CLOSER. YOU WANT MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T MISS ANYTHING HERE. THANK YOU. PERFECT. OKAY, THAT'S BETTER.  ALL RIGHT, YOU GUYS CAN GO AHEAD AND SIT DOWN SO WE CAN GET STARTED HERE .  CAN YOU MOVE TO THE NEXT SLIDE I HERE WE GO. SO JUST KIND OF AN AGENDA TO HELP GUIDE THIS PRESENTATION TONIGHT STARTED OUT WITH THE INTRODUCTION OF OUR COORDINATION TEAM. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO SOME HIGHLIGHTS FROM THE STAFF UPDATES ON THEIR BDD INITIATIVES.  WE'LL PREVIEW SOME UPCOMING PROJECTS FOR THE NEXT QUARTER AND THEN OPEN IT UP TO ANY COMMENTS AND FEEDBACK THAT YOU ALL HAVE. BUT NOT REQUESTING ANY SPECIFIC ACTION TONIGHT.  NEXT SLIDE.  AND THEN WE ALSO JUST WANT TO START BY RESTATING THE CITY'S MISSION AND VALUES AND HOW THEY'RE PRIORITIZE WITH PTT MIRRORS THE MISSION OF THE CITY TO CULTIVATE AN ENDURING AND REMARKABLE COMMUNITY WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO BE FOLLOWED BY OUR VALUES AND BELIEFS AND THE COMMITMENT ON OUR END TO NOT INCLUDE ANY PROGRAM, PROJECT POLICY OR SERVICE THAT'S NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE ABOVE CORE VALUES AND ALIGNED WITH OUR MISSION. SO NOW WE CAN ROLL INTO UPDATES UNDER EACH PRIORITY THE FIRST OF WHICH IS A CONNECTED AND WELCOMING COMMUNITY. SO WITH THIS PRIORITY WE HAVE THREE MAJOR OUTCOMES THAT WE WISH TO SEE WHICH IS THAT PEOPLE CAN CONNECT THEIR NEIGHBORS. PEOPLE ARE WELCOMED BY THE CITY INTO THE COMMUNITY AND THEN RESIDENTS ARE VALUED BY THE COMMUNITY AND SO FROM THAT FIRST OUTCOME WE HAVE ALL OF OUR INITIATIVE UPDATES ONE OF WHICH IS FROM THE COMMUNITY ASSET MODEL WORKING ON IMPLEMENTING GIS TO CREATE AN INTRODUCTORY AND ASSET MAP WITH OUR CREATIVE PLACEMAKING PROGRAM WE'VE FINISHED UP THE ENGAGEMENT PLAN WITH THE CONSULTANT WORKING ON THAT PROJECT AND COMPLETED THE SELECTION OF AN ARTIST ENGAGEMENT TEAM.  HIGHLIGHTS ALSO INCLUDE THE DEVELOPMENT OF POP UP AND ARTIST LED ENGAGEMENT ACTIVITIES ONE WHICH IS THE MORE RECENT JUNETEENTH EVENT HERE AT CIVIC PLAZA AND THEN ALSO UNDER THIS PRIORITY WE HAVE THE VOLUNTEER MANAGEMENT PROGRAM.  HIGHLIGHTS FROM THIS INITIATIVE INCLUDED ONBOARDING A FULL TIME VOLUNTEER COORDINATOR, THEN HOSTING THE ANNUAL VOLUNTEER APPRECIATION EVENT UNDER OUR SECOND PRIORITY OF THE PLAN WE HAVE THAT OF A HEALTHY COMMUNITY WITH OUTCOMES THAT PRIORITIZES ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH, HUMAN HEALTH, SAFETY AND SECURITY SO WITH OUR ENERGY ACTION PLAN TO INCREASE PARTICIPATION IN ORGANICS RECYCLING WHICH INCLUDED THE CITY HOSTING AND COMPOST GIVEAWAY ALSO AN INCREASED COLLECTION OF BULKY ITEMS FOR REUSE AND RECYCLING INCLUDING A BABY GEAR SWAP. THIS HELPED 94 PEOPLE SWAP OLD ITEMS FOR A TOTAL OF 578 EXCHANGED POUNDS OF BABY INSTEAD OF IT GOING TO WASTE IN OTHER WAYS WE ALSO SEE WITH SOLID WASTE REDUCTION STRATEGIES THAT SUSTAINABILITY WORK RELATED TO THE ENERGY ACTION PLAN INITIATIVE INCLUDES THE DISTRIBUTION OF RAIN BARRELS AND CONTINUED EFFORTS OF THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION AND THEN FOR OUR FOOD ACCESS PLAN WE'RE CONTINUING WITH THE RFP PROCESS FOR THE COMPLETION OF THE FOOD ACCESS MAP.  THEN WE MOVE ON TO OUR THIRD AND FINAL PRIORITY WITHIN THE PLAN WHICH IS A COMMUNITY WITH EQUITABLE ECONOMIC GROWTH.  OUTCOMES FOR THIS INCLUDE THIS GROWTH BEING MORE EQUITABLY DISTRIBUTED, EXPANDED DIVERSITY IN BUSINESS OWNERSHIP AND MORE EQUITABLE JOB GROWTH.  SOME HIGHLIGHTS FROM THIS PRIORITY INCLUDE SAME FACADE IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. THIS PROGRAM SEEKS TO FACILITATE THE REVITALIZATION OF EDGE COMMERCIAL NODES WITHIN THE CITY AND THIS PAST QUARTER STAFF RECEIVED SEVEN APPLICATIONS THAT REQUESTED A TOTAL OF 160,000 IN FUNDING FOR A PROJECTED TOTAL OF FOUR AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY.  AND THEN RECENTLY JUST LAST WEEK UNDER THE WORKFORCE BLOOMINGTON FRAMEWORK INITIATIVE WE HAD THE 2024 GROUP OF BLOOM AND BLOOMINGTON INTERNS HAVE THEIR GRADUATION CEREMONIES SO THAT WAS FUN. AND THEN THIS NEXT SLIDE IS JUST AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW OFF SOME FUN PHOTOS OF THE HARD WORK THAT STAFF AND INITIATIVE OWNERS HAVE DONE IN THE PAST QUARTER BUT THEN ALSO TO KIND OF MENTION WHERE WE'LL BE GOING NEXT GOING BACK THAT COMMUNITY ASSET MAP, WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING WITH OUR STAFF TO DEVELOP AN INTEGRATED ASSET MAP TO REALLY CONNECT RESIDENTS WITH THOSE RESOURCES IN THE COMMUNITY THERE WITHIN THE CREATIVE PLACEMAKING PROGRAM WE'RE EXPECTING AN ADDITIONAL 15 TO 19 ARTIST LED ENGAGEMENT ACTIVITIES FOR THE ENERGY ACTION PLAN WILL BE LAUNCHING ENERGY EFFICIENCY PILOT PROGRAMS WHICH INCLUDES THE BLOOMINGTON STEWARDS PROGRAM AND THEN CONTINUED RESIDENTIAL ENERGY PROGRAM OUTREACH AND THEN FINALLY FOR A TRAFFIC INJURY REDUCTION PLAN WE'LL BE SEEING THE INSTALLATION OF NEW SPEED LIMIT SIGNS AND PUBLIC EDUCATION EFFORTS AND THEN WE'LL BE SEEING PEDESTRIAN CROSSING CONSTRUCTION AS WELL. AND SO THIS LAST SLIDE HERE IS JUST A LIST OF RESOURCES THAT I REFERENCED IN THIS PRESENTATION.  THERE'LL BE CITY WEB PAGES FOR INFORMATION ON THE STRATEGIC PLAN AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC FACING AND VISIO DASHBOARD AND YOU SHOULD ALL HAVE THE FULL QUARTER TO REPORT IN YOUR AGENDA PACKETS.  SO I'LL BRING THIS UP BACK TO YOU ALL IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS. WELL THANK YOU. THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION AND THANK YOU TO THE TEAM FOR YOUR WORK BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S ON TOP OF EVERYTHING ELSE AND I KNOW YOU'VE GOT YOUR JOB TO DO AND THEN YOU THIS AS WELL. SO I APPRECIATE THE EFFORT THAT YOU FOLKS ALL PUT INTO THIS AND YOUR ACKNOWLEDGMENT THAT THIS IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IN BLOOMINGTON AND IN THE WORK YOU PUT INTO IT AND THE THOUGHT BEHIND OBVIOUSLY SOME OF THESE THINGS IS IT REFLECTS THAT VERY WELL.  SO THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. COUNCIL QUESTIONS COMMENTS ON THIS COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO THANK YOU MAYOR. THANKS EVERYBODY FOR BEING HERE. ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE THIS.  I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE WERE A COUPLE OF ITEMS ON OUR DASHBOARD THAT ARE EITHER BEHIND SCHEDULE OR ARE OFF SCHEDULE SOMEHOW AND DON'T WANT TO. I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO GO INTO A LOT OF DETAIL ON THOSE BUT.  I DO WANT TO JUST HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF AND MAYBE THIS IS FOR YOU MR. CITY MANAGER JUST WHAT WE WHAT WE THINK THE TIMELINE IS FOR GETTING THOSE HAVE BEEN DISRUPTED BACK ON TRACK IF THAT'S IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN TALK TO AS A GROUP, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, I THINK THE BETTER WAY TO DO IT IS JUST TO HAVE THE STAFF PUT TOGETHER A REPORT FOR YOU THAT WILL FOLLOW UP WITH THE BLOOMINGTON THIS WEEK AND JUST GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT WE ANTICIPATE BEING THE AMOUNT OF TIME, A DELAY OR TIME OF IMPLEMENTATION FOR SOME OF THOSE INITIATIVES THAT ARE NOT TRACKING RIGHT NOW.  I THINK COUNCIL'S WHERE WE'VE HAD SOME TURNOVER IN STAFF AND SO IN SOME OF THIS ACCOUNTS FOR THAT. BUT I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION AND ACTUALLY IT'S THE PERFECT QUESTION FOR THE POINT THAT I WAS GOING TO MAKE IN SUMMARY TO ALL AND FIRST OF ALL THANK YOU OUR TEAM THAT CONTINUES TO WORK ON THIS THE REASON THAT WE'RE HERE AND WE'RE DOING THIS ON A QUARTERLY IS TO COMMIT TO THE COUNCIL THAT STAFF IS FOLLOWING THROUGH ON IMPLEMENTING THIS PLAN. THIS IS YOUR PLAN. IT'S DONE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE COMMUNITY BUT THIS WAS DONE IT AT YOUR REQUEST AND YOU OWN THIS PLAN AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU KNOW THAT WE'RE CONTINUING TO MOVE FORWARD ON IT AND THAT WE'RE FOCUSED ON OUTCOMES AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE ACHIEVING THE VISION THAT THAT YOU AND THE COMMUNITY LAID OUT TOGETHER. SO WE WILL FOLLOW UP AND GET A REPORT DONE SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE QUITE ON TRACK YET ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, COMMENTS WELL WELL DONE. THANK YOU AND AGAIN THANK YOU . THE TEAM WORKING ON THIS AND I KNOW THIS GOES BROADLY AND DEEPLY WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY AND FOLKS HERE AT CITY HALL SO THANK YOU MUCH FOR THE WORK THAT'S GOING ON. IT IS GREATLY APPRECIATED AND . IT IS PUTTING US ON TRACK TO BE A ENDURING AND REMARKABLE COMMUNITY WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO BE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY EVERYBODY SAY THAT ONCE. YES, THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM 2.3 AND AN UPDATE ON OUR COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER AND ,OUR PARKS AND REC DIRECTOR AND CARTER, HE'S GOING TO KICK THIS OFF AND INTRODUCE SOME OF OUR CONSULTANTS WHO ARE GOING TO PRESENT AS WELL. GOOD EVENING. WELCOME. GOOD EVENING.  THEY'RE MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.  TONIGHT WE ARE GOING TO SHARE WITH YOU AN ENGAGEMENT SUMMARY FIRST FOR SOME EARLY FOCUS GROUPS AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WORK AND WE'RE GOING TO REPORT ON THE STATISTICALLY VALID SURVEY AND COMMUNITY SURVEY COMPLETED EARLIER THIS SUMMER. THEN WE'LL SHOW HOW ENGAGEMENT WORK IS INFORMING THE FEASIBILITY STUDY AND THE PRIORITIES INCLUDING FACILITY AMENITIES AND EARLY SITE FIT FOR PARKING AND THE COMMUNITY CENTER ITSELF. DEREK HARVEY FROM ETSY INSTITUTE IS PINCH HITTING FOR US TONIGHT SHORT NOTICE FOR HIS COLLEAGUE THAT WAS ILL TODAY.  SO THANK YOU DEREK FOR JOINING US THIS EVENING AFTER DEREK PRESENTS THE RESULTS OF THE SURVEY, I'LL TURN THE FLOOR OVER TO NANCY AND ERIN FROM HQ AS YOU CAN SEE LEON FROM PEROT'S CONSULTING IS ALSO JOINING US ONLINE. THIS IS THE LAST PRESENTATION OF THE FEASIBILITY WORK BEFORE WE PRESENT THE FINAL REPORT TO THE PARK COMMISSION ON SEPTEMBER 11TH AND THEN TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON SEPTEMBER 16TH. SO WE'RE MAKING GREAT PROGRESS ON THE COMMUNITY CENTER PROJECT.  SO WITH THAT LET'S JUMP IN WITH DEREK AND DEREK IS GOING TO SHARE HIS SCREEN AND GIVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION FOR US.  ALL RIGHT. OH , WHENEVER EVERYBODY SEE MY SCREEN I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S GOING GET YES WE CAN WE CAN HEAR YOU JUST FINE. THANKS FOR BEING WITH US TONIGHT. YEAH, IT'S AN HONOR TO BE HERE TO PRESENT TO YOU COUNCIL AND MAYOR MIKE AND SAID I'M DEREK HARVEY FROM ATC INSTITUTE I'M A PROJECT MANAGER I AM STEPPING IN FOR MY COLLEAGUE TONIGHT SO THERE WILL TIME FOR QUESTIONS AT THE END OF MY PRESENTATION.  BUT AS I AM NOT AS FAMILIAR WITH THE SURVEY HE IS I MIGHT SAVE SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS TO FOLLOW UP WITH HIM LATER AND A WRITTEN RESPONSE BACK TO YOU ONCE THE PRESENTATION IS OVER.  THE PURPOSE OF OUR SURVEY WAS TO HELP DETERMINE RECREATION AND WELLNESS PRIORITIES FOR THE COMMUNITY ASSIST IN MEETING THE CITY'S PRIORITIES AND TO GATHER OBJECTIVE FEEDBACK FROM RESIDENTS TO HELP DETERMINE PRIORITIES FOR THE COMMUNITY.  OUR METHODOLOGY WAS WE'VE GOT SIX PAGE SURVEY WITH THESE SURVEYS EACH WE DO A MAIL AND ONLINE HYBRID SAMPLE SO WE WILL MAIL OUT TO OUR RANDOM SAMPLE AND IN THAT MAIL THEY WILL GET A COVER LETTER THAT EXPLAINS THE PURPOSE OF THE SURVEY AS AS THE SURVEY ITSELF AND THEN AN ENVELOPE TO RETURN THE SURVEY AND AS WELL AND THEN ON THE COVER LETTER IT WOULD ALSO TELL THEM THAT THEY CAN GO ONLINE AND TAKE THE SURVEY IF THEY WOULD LIKE EACH SURVEY TOOK APPROXIMATELY 17 MINUTES TO COMPLETE OUR GOAL FOR THIS SURVEY WAS 400 COMPLETED SURVEYS AND YOU RECEIVED 574 WHICH TELLS ME STRONG ENGAGEMENT AND WITH 574 COMPLETED SURVEYS WE HAD A MARGIN OF ERROR OF 4.2% AT THE 95% LEVEL CONFIDENCE AND ALL THAT IS TELLING US THAT IF WE DID THE SURVEY 100 TIMES 95 OF THOSE SURVEYS WE DID WOULD COME BACK WITHIN THIS MARGIN OF ERROR OF 4.2% WITH THE SAME RESULTS SLIDE WE LIKE INCLUDE IF THERE'S IF YOU DON'T REMEMBER ANYTHING ELSE ABOUT THIS PRESENTATION I WANT YOU TO REMEMBER THIS SLIDE 92% OF YOUR RESIDENTS HAVE VISITED A PARK OR FACILITY IN THE PAST YEAR. OUR NATIONAL LEVEL ON THAT SAME QUESTION IS 76% OF RESPONDENTS. SO YOU'RE WELL ABOVE THE NATIONAL LEVEL THERE.  44% OF THE RESPONDENTS HAVE PARTICIPATED IN OUR PROGRAM IN THE PAST YEAR AND THAT'S ALSO ABOVE OUR NATIONAL LEVEL WHERE IT CAME IN AT 32% WHEN WE ASKED THEM WHAT FACILITIES THEY USE FOR INDOOR RECREATION. THE MALL OF AMERICA WAS THE TOP OPTION AT 63%. THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON CAME IN AT ABOUT 29%, WHICH TELLS US ABOUT ONE OUT OF EVERY THREE OF YOUR RESIDENTS IS USING THE CITY. AS FOR INDOOR RECREATION, THE CITY'S NEWSLETTER AND THE CITY'S WEBSITE ARE THE PRIMARY INFORMATION SOURCES THAT ARE ALSO THEM AND THOSE ARE ALSO MOST PREFERRED FOR THE CITY AS WELL AND.  WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT AN INDOOR COMMUNITY CENTER WE ASKED RESPONDENTS WHAT WOULD BE THE MOST COMMON USE FOR FITNESS OR WELLNESS ACTIVITIES WAS THE TOP ITEM THAT THEY SELECTED .  WHEN WE GET INTO HOW RESPONDENTS USE THE SYSTEM USAGE RATINGS OTHER PROVIDERS WHEN WE ASKED THEM TO RATE THE QUALITY OF THE FACILITIES THAT THEY USE OR THEIR MEMBERS ARE THE HOUSE WOULD USE 83% SAID THAT THE FACILITIES ARE EXCELLENT OR GOOD WHICH IS VERY HIGH AND THIS IS OUT OF THAT 92% THAT INDICATED THAT THEY HAD VISITED IN THE PAST YEAR WHEN WE ASKED THEM HOW MUCH THEY SPEND PER MONTH ON RECREATION AND FITNESS ACTIVITIES 57% OF RESPONDENTS SPEND LESS SPEND ABOUT $100 OR LESS PER MONTH AND THEN THE ONE THAT REALLY STUCK OUT TO ME WAS THE 21% THAT SPEND 200 OR MORE. I WOULD IMAGINE THIS FALLS INTO THE YOUTH SPORTS IN THE HOUSEHOLD WHERE YOUTH SPORTS TAKE UP A BIG CHUNK OF MONEY THESE DAYS FOR SOME PEOPLE AND THIS IS THE SAME ONE WHERE WE ASKED THEM WHAT THEIR TOP PURPOSE WOULD BE FOR AN COMMUNITY CENTER. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, FITNESS OR WELLNESS ACTIVITIES WENT TO THE TOP WELL AS EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS AND SPECIAL ENTERTAINMENT ACTIVITIES ARTS AND CRAFTS, SPORTS ACTIVITIES, SOCIALIZATION ACTIVITIES AND MEETING AND SUPPORT GROUPS ARE ALL UP THERE AS WELL.  NOW WHEN WE DESIGNED THESE SURVEYS WE SET THESE SURVEYS UP WITH THE QUESTIONS IN THE WAY WE ASKED THE QUESTIONS THAT WE ARE ABLE TO DETERMINE PRIORITIES FOR FACILITIES AND PROGRAMS WHEN WE'RE DOING THIS KIND OF WALK THROUGH THIS AS WE GO THROUGH IT. BUT FOR FACILITIES AND AMENITIES THE FIRST THING WE DO IS DETERMINE WHAT PERCENT OF RESIDENTS HAVE IT FOR AN ITEM THAT THEY WERE PRESENTED WITH WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS SITE, OUTDOOR SPACES TO ENJOY NATURE WERE THE TOP AREA WHERE YOUR RESIDENTS HAVE A NEED FOR SOMETHING FOLLOWED BY OUTDOOR COVERED PORCH AREAS AND OUTDOOR COMMUNITY SPACES.  PUBLIC LOUNGE HERE IS HIGHLIGHTED AND WE'LL KIND OF KEEP AN EYE ON THAT AS WE GO THROUGH AND YOU KIND OF SEE HOW THE PROCESS SHAKES OUT HERE ONCE WE DETERMINE THE RESPONDENTS THAT HAVE A NEED FOR A FACILITY. WE ASKED THEM HOW IS THAT NEED BEING MET BY THE COMMUNITY OR BY THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AND AS YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE FULLY MET MOSTLY NOT PARTLY MET AND ,NOT MET AND THE ITEM OF TOP THAT IS FULLY MATTER MOSTLY MATTERS OUTDOOR SPACES TO ENJOY NATURE OUTDOOR PLAYGROUND AND PLAY AREA AND AS YOU SEE PUBLIC LOUNGES KIND OF THERE IN THE MIDDLE 47% SAY THEIR NEEDS AREN'T MET 28% PARTLY AND THEN 14 11% FULLY AND MOSTLY THE NEXT THING AFTER WE ASKED THEM HEY DO YOU HAVE A NEED FOR THIS AND THEN IS YOUR NEED BEING MET?  WE ASKED THEM IMMEDIATELY AFTERWARDS OUT OF ALL THE ITEMS YOU JUST LOOKED AT WHICH OF THOSE FOUR ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT TO YOU AND YOUR HOUSEHOLD? AND THIS IS WHERE WE SEE SWIMMING POOL INDOOR THAT POOL COMES TO THE TOP INDOOR RUNNING WALKING TRACK CARDIO EQUIPMENT, OUTDOOR AS YOU SEE PUBLIC LOUNGE THAT WE HIGHLIGHTED IS NEAR THE BOTTOM AS SOME PEOPLE HAVE A NEED FOR IT BUT IT ISN'T AS IMPORTANT AS SOME OF THESE OTHER ITEMS THAT THEY HAVE ON THE LIST AND ONCE WE GET THROUGH THIS WE'RE ABLE TO RUN OUR PRIORITY AND BEST RATING WHICH GIVES US PRIORITIES FOR FACILITY AND RANGE BASED ON OUR RATING.  AS YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE OUR TOP PRIORITIES. THEY HAD RECEIVED SCORES OF 100 PLUS THIS IS TAKING THE UNMET NEED RATING PLUS THE IMPORTANCE RATING THAT WE CALCULATE ADDING THEM TOGETHER AND THIS IS WHAT WE COME UP WITH WITH SWIMMING POOL, INDOOR LAP OR THE TOP FOLLOWED BY THE INDOOR RUNNING WALKING TRACK CARDIO EQUIPMENT SWIMMING POOL, INDOOR OUTDOOR RECREATION POOL FOLLOWED BY THESE OTHERS HERE. AND AS YOU SEE THAT PUBLIC LOUNGE IT WAS KIND OF HANGING OUT IN THE MIDDLE THE ENTIRE TIME THERE AND WHAT WE CAN SEE IS IT CAME UP WITH THAT MEDIUM PRIORITY.  IT HAD LOW IMPORTANCE IN A LOWER ON MEET UNMET RATING THAN THE REST AND THEN THE LOWER NEED ONES AT THE BOTTOM HERE ARE THE ONES THAT JUST HAD LOWER IMPORTANCE AND LOWER UNMET NEED AND REALLY THE WAY TO LOOK AT THIS CHART IS THE TOP PRIORITIES MORE EMPHASIS, MORE PRIORITY NEED TO BE LOOKED AT AGAIN MAYBE TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT YOU'RE CURRENTLY DOING AND SEE IF THERE'S A WAY WE CAN DO IT BETTER OR MAKE SURE THAT THE RESIDENTS ARE RECEIVING THE NEEDS THAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR THE MEDIUM PRIORITY ONES CONTINUE TO EMPHASIS THIS IS BASICALLY TELLING US THAT YOU'RE MEETING THE NEEDS OF YOUR RESIDENTS IN THESE AREAS. THEY ARE GETTING VERY HIGH IMPORTANCE RATINGS BECAUSE THEY'RE PROBABLY BEING MET ALREADY AND THEN THE LOWER NEED ONES ARE ONES WE WANT TO CONTINUE EMPHASIS ON BECAUSE THEY COULD RISE UP THE CHART BUT THEY ARE THE LOWER PRIORITY ONES THAT WE SHOULD ADDRESS THE ONES ABOVE THOSE GOING FORWARD.  WE DID THE SAME THING FOR PROGRAMS ON THE SURVEY AS WELL SO THE FIRST THING WE DID WAS DETERMINE WHAT PERCENTAGE OF RESIDENTS HAVE A NEED FOR THE PROGRAM FOR THIS ONE WE HIGHLIGHTED PICKLEBALL AS THAT'S IN THE LAST FOUR OR FIVE YEARS PICKLEBALL HAS TAKEN OFF LIKE CRAZY.  BUT AS YOU CAN SEE SPECIAL EVENTS FOR THE TOP PROGRAM THAT YOUR RESPONSE HAVE A NEED FOR FOLLOWED BY ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATION AND NATURE SPECIAL INTEREST CLASSES AND THEN ARTS AND CRAFTS AND GROUP FITNESS FOLLOWED WHEN WE ASKED IF THEY WERE MEETING THE NEEDS OF THEM AS YOU SEE PICKLEBALL HAS PRETTY LARGE PARTLY AND NOT MET NEEDS THERE AND AS YOU SEE SPECIAL EVENTS YOUTH SPORTS LEAGUE SUMMER CAMPS, BASKETBALL MOST OF THE NEEDS ARE BEING MET IN THOSE CATEGORIES AS WELL WHEN WE LOOK AT IMPORTANT SPECIAL EVENTS ROSE TO THE TOP FOLLOWED BY ARTS AND CRAFT PROGRAMS, GROUP FITNESS CLASSES, ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATION, SENIOR PROGRAMS AND THEN PICKLEBALL CAN YOU SEE IS RISING TO THE TOP AS WELL AND SO ARE THERE SPECIAL INTEREST CLASSES AND HEALTHY EATING PROGRAMS WHICH GETS US TO THE PRIORITY INVESTMENT FOR THE PROGRAMS. AS YOU CAN SEE PICKLEBALL BEING A HIGH IMPORTANCE ITEM AND HAVING A HIGHER UNMET NEED COMPARED TO THE PUBLIC LOUNGE. WE LOOKED AT EARLIER TERMS A HIGH PRIORITY ITEM ALONG WITH SPECIAL EVENTS ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATION, ARTS AND CRAFTS GROUP FITNESS, SPECIAL INTERESTS, HEALTHY EATING PROGRAMS, WATER FITNESS CLASSES, PICKLEBALL MUSIC CLASSES IN ADULT SPORTS LEAGUES. AS YOU SEE OUR LOWER NEED RATINGS THERE'S A FEW MORE ITEMS ON THIS LIST HAD A LOWER NEED GYMNASTICS TUMBLING BASKETBALL TENNIS VOLLEYBALL E GAMING AND COMPETITIVE SWIMMING. THERE IS A NEED FOR THESE ITEMS IN THE COMMUNITY.  WHAT WE FIND WHAT WE'LL SEE THOUGH IS THAT THERE'S JUST A LOWER PERCENT OF RESIDENTS THAT HAVE A NEED FOR THOSE ACTIVITIES AND THEN IN THE MIDDLE WE SEE OUR CONTINUED EMPHASIS ON PRIORITY AS WELL.  ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS COUNCIL DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS HERE?  COUNCILMEMBER THANK YOU MAYOR MY QUESTION IS IN REGARDS TO THAT ONE SLIDE THAT YOU SAID WE SHOULD ALL REMEMBER 44% OF RESPONDENTS PARTICIPATED A PROGRAM IN THE PAST YEAR. IS THIS ANY CITY PROGRAM AND LOCATION OR IS THIS SPECIFIC TO ONE LOCATION?  THIS IS SPECIFIC TO THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. OKAY.  SO THE CITY AS A WHOLE OKAY. YES, COUNCILMEMBER NELSON IT THANKS, MAYOR. JUST A QUICK CLARIFICATION ON THIS SLIDE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. 92% OF RESPONDENTS HAVE VISITED A PARK OR FACILITY IN THE PAST YEAR AND MOM OF AMERICA'S 63% IS THE MOST USED INDOOR PROVIDER.  DO WE HAVE THAT NUMBER THE FIRST NUMBER WITHOUT MALL OF AMERICA?  WE DO NOT. I DON'T THINK AT THE MOMENT I CAN TAKE A LOOK AND SEE WHAT WE CAN PULL OUT FROM THE DATA ON THAT BUT THAT'S ONE I WILL HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU WITH A WRITTEN RESPONSE AT A LATER DATE. COUNCILMEMBER I WILL SAY IN OUR PACKET IN OUR INFORMATION HERE AT MALL OF AMERICA WAS AT 63%.  SECOND ON THAT LIST WAS NEARBY CITIES AND TOWNS AT 48% AND THEN PRIVATE FITNESS FACILITIES WERE 39%. PRIVATE FITNESS CLUBS 33% SCHOOL DISTRICT 29 AND THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON 29%. SO THAT'S HOW FAR DOWN WE ARE ON THE LIST. OKAY.  I DO WANT TO I WANT TO LET FOLKS KNOW THE BEEPING AND THE DISTRACTION YOU'RE HEARING UP HERE. WE GOT A MASSIVE THUNDERSTORM BEARING DOWN ON US HERE. WE'RE NOT THE POLICE OR THE FIRE CHIEF YULICO HAS BEEN TELLING US IT'S HE THINKS IT'S GOING TO BE OKAY. BUT I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU THE HEADS UP. WE ARE IN LINE FOR A PRETTY SEVERE THUNDERSTORM HERE IN N TOO JUST SO YOU KNOW IF YOU WANT TO STICK IT OUT OR IF YOU WANT TO HEAD HOME AND SOMEPLACE SAFE EITHER WAY WORKS FOR US BUT I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW AND YOU CAN TUNE IN EVEN REMOTELY FROM HOME AS WELL SO YEAH SO COUNCILMEMBER DO YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT, COUNCILMEMBER.  WOMAN THANK YOU. MAYOR SO WHEN I LOOK AT THE METHODOLOGY, ONE OF THE THINGS I WONDERED YOU KNOW YOU TALKED ABOUT THE SAMPLE SIZE BUT YOU KNOW TYPICALLY WHEN WE GET OTHER SURVEYS THEY TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF THE SURVEY AND I'M JUST CURIOUS HOW REPRESENTATIVE OF OUR COMMUNITY WAS THE SURVEY IN TERMS OF DEMOGRAPHICS,  INCOME DISTRIBUTION ACROSS THE DIFFERENT COUNCIL DISTRICTS? I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THAT. YOU COULD TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT. YEAH. SO  WHEN WE'RE ADMINISTERING SAY SURVEY WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME THOSE KEY DEMOGRAPHIC AREAS I CAN GET YOU THE EXACT NUMBERS LATER TONIGHT AFTER I JUMP OFF THE CALL, GET INTO THE TABULAR DATA. BUT ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS WE'RE MONITORING IS RACE AND RACE AND ETHNICITY. WE MONITOR THAT VERY CLOSELY TO MAKE SURE WE TAKE FROM THE 2020 CENSUS AND WE'RE MONITORING EVERY SURVEY THAT COMES IN AND IF WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH SURVEYS FROM ONE ETHNICITY GROUP WE WILL KEEP GOING OUT TARGETING THAT GROUP UNTIL WE RECEIVE ENOUGH SURVEYS TO IN THE SAME LINE AS THE 2020 CENSUS WE TRY TO KEEP WITHIN THE 4.2% MARGIN OF ERROR ON THOSE I BELIEVE WE DID THAT ON THIS ONE FOR AGE WE DO ASK ABOUT A HOUSEHOLD SAMPLE OR HOUSEHOLD AGE RANGES AND I BELIEVE WE WERE WITHIN CENSUS ON THAT AS WELL BUT WE'LL HAVE TO TAKE A DEEPER LOOK AT THE NUMBERS AND I CAN SEND YOU THE FULL REPORT WITH ALL OF THAT IN IT AS WELL. OH THAT'S GREAT.  BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU DID YOUR BEST TO TRY TO BRING THE DATA IN IN LINE WITH YOU WHAT YOU WOULD SEE FROM A CENSUS PERSPECTIVE AND IT'S REPRESENTATIVE THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY. SO I KNOW THAT THAT'S ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT SOME FOLKS HAVE WHEN THEY LOOK AT THESE TYPES OF SURVEYS, YOU KNOW, IS IT REPRESENTATIVE OF THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY IN TERMS OF YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF THAT 95% I MEAN I WOULD EXPECT NOTHING LESS THAN THAT BUT WANT TO JUST BE SURE THAT WE COVERED THAT. THANK YOU.  YEAH. AND THAT'S THAT'S OUR JOB. SO WE DO THIS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY AND WE SAY THE EXACT SAME THING. THAT'S WHAT WE ARE PAID TO DO IS MAKE SURE THAT IS REPRESENTATIVE OF YOUR COMMUNITY.  COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I THINK WE PUT YOU ON THE SPOT THERE UNNECESSARILY BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE THE JULY REPORT THAT WE GOT AND IT'S INCLUDED IN THE PACKET DOES HAVE THAT DATA. COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SO IF YOU LOOK AT PAGE 76 OF OUR PACKET TODAY THE AGE OF HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS IS AS IS THERE'S A CHART FOR THAT I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE IT OVER SCREEN BUT IT MENTIONS YOU KNOW 14% OF PEOPLE ARE AGE 55 TO 64 12% OR 65 TO 79 14% ARE AGES 35 TO 44 ETC. SO IT'S A PRETTY BROAD BRUSH AND THEN IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY IN DOING MY RESEARCH BEFORE COMING TO COUNCIL TONIGHT I DO BELIEVE IN THAT JULY REPORT THERE'S ALSO A A SURVEY THAT INDICATES THAT LITERALLY 20%, 20%, 20%, 20%, 20% WENT THROUGH ALL FIVE OF OUR ZIP CODES. WELL, I JUST THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC YEAH YEAH. THAT'S STOLEN AND BROUGHT FORWARD YEAH THAT'S WHY I WANT TO POINT THEM TO THE OF THE DATA IN THAT JULY REPORT BECAUSE YOU SHOULD HAVE IT AND IF YEAH AND SOME OTHER INTERESTING DATA IN THAT JULY REPORT AS THAT WE COULD TALK TO IF WE HAD MORE TIME BUT I DON'T KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THE REST THE CONVERSATION WILL YIELD THAT BUT I'LL DEFER THOSE QUESTIONS BUT YEAH A IT'S A GOOD THING TO CALL OUT AND I WANTED TO REFER PEOPLE TO SPECIFICALLY WHERE THEY COULD FIND IT. YEAH THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS  HEARING NONE.  MOVING ON TO THE NEXT PORTION OF OUR DISCUSSION HERE THAT EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL GREAT TO BE HERE AGAIN. THANK YOU FOR HAVING US. WE DO HAVE SOME SLIDES TO SHARE. I'M NANCY LANKFORD FROM H.J. AND I'M ERIN MULLINS FROM ASIA AS WELL. THANK YOU.  THIS LOOKS GREAT. SO BEYOND THE STATISTICALLY VALID SURVEY, HCA ALONG WITH COPD DID SOME FOCUS GROUP BECAUSE WE KNEW THERE WERE SOME MEMBERS THE COMMUNITY THAT MAYBE WEREN'T FILLING OUT SURVEYS OR PART OF THIS STATISTICALLY VALID PARTICULARLY WE WERE LOOKING AT TEENS AND ALSO TODD POD SO PARENTS WITH VERY YOUNG CHILDREN I INCLUDED THE SLIDE WHICH IS A REPEAT WHAT ETSY JUST TALKED ABOUT BUT AGAIN THE TOP PRIORITIES FROM THE STATISTICALLY VALID SURVEY WERE YOU KNOW THOSE TOP FOUR REALLY FITNESS AND AQUATIC FOCUSED JUST TO REMIND US SO WHEN WE SPOKE TO SOME TEENS WE WENT WITH CAMP COACH TO JUNIOR COUNSELORS SO THEY'RE HIGHLY ENGAGED TEENS ALREADY IN THE COMMUNITY AND WE HAD A COUPLE OF ACTIVITIES WITH THEM.  THIS FIRST ONE HIGHLIGHTS AGAIN YOU CAN SEE NUMBERS NINE AND EIGHT HIGHLIGHTED IN RED. THEY ARE THESE TEENS IN PARTICULAR ARE ALSO FAVORING SOME FITNESS THE POOL AND THE GYMNASIUM BUT ALSO SOME MORE HANG OUT SPACE SPACE TO BE AROUND ONE ANOTHER WITHOUT SCREENS LIKE A COFFEE SHOP OR OUTDOOR MOVIE TIME.  THE OTHER EXERCISE WE DID WITH CAMP CODA JUNIOR COUNSELORS WAS THIS SORT OF LOVES,  DISLIKES, HOPES AND IDEAS TO TRY TO DRAW OUT SOME OTHER THINGS THAT THEY REALLY LIKE SEEING IN THEIR COMMUNITY OR YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT ARE HARD FOR THEM TO DEAL WITH OR OVERCOME BARRIERS YOU MIGHT SAY AND I MIGHT FOCUS ON THE SEEDS OR IDEAS FOR THIS SLIDE THEY WERE SORT CIVIC MINDED,  RIGHT? WANT TO SEE A FOOD SHELF WHICH IS ALREADY HAPPENING IN THE CITY? WE KNOW MORE AREAS FOR OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES, PLACES HANG OUT AGAIN HERE AND MORE EVENTS SO AGAIN IN LINE WITH SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR AMENITIES FOR THIS COMMUNITY CENTER WITH TODD POD PARENTS THIS IS A GROUP OF BOTH MOMS AND DADS WHO GOT TOGETHER THE PANDEMIC TO FORM A POD BUT HAVE REMAINED STRONG HERE IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AND FOR THIS GROUP WE DID A SORT OF VISUAL LISTENING KIND OF EXERCISE. YOU COULD SEE A LOT OF IMAGES WERE THROWN OUT AND THEY WERE ASKED TO MAKE A COLLAGE OF WHAT WOULD THEY LIKE SEE IN THIS NEW COMMUNITY CENTER ESPECIALLY FOR THEIR YOUNG FAMILIES.  AND WE FOCUSED THIS ON TWO AREAS ONES INTERIOR AND THIS ONE IS EXTERIOR. SO REALLY A STRONG FOCUS ON INDOOR OUTDOOR RELATIONSHIP SPACES FOR THEM TO PLAY HAVE NATURE PLAY OUTSIDE NOT TRADITIONAL PLAYGROUND THINKING ABOUT COMMUNITY GARDENS, NATIVE GRASSES AND THEN ON THE INTERIOR YOU'RE SEEING A VARIETY OF SPACES WANTED SO ONE WHERE THEY CAN WATCH THEIR PLAY WITHOUT BEING THE KEY PLAY PROVIDER THIRD SPACES CAME UP SO A SPACE KIND OF GET OFF TO THE SIDE, DO SOME WORK, DO SOMETHING ELSE WHILE, OTHER THINGS ARE HAPPENING CALM SPACES CRAFT SO THE MAKERSPACE CAME UP PLACES FOR THEM TO MAKE TOGETHER SO LOTS OF INPUTS THAT WE'RE GATHERING I GUESS THIS IS A SUMMARY OF WE'VE GOT THE STATISTICALLY VALID SURVEY. WE'VE GOT SOME FOCUS GROUPS SO THE TEENS IN THE TOD PODS HERE AND THEN AARON'S GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW THAT MIGHT SHOW UP IN THE PLAN AFTER I GIVE YOU THE SUMMARY. SO WE'RE NOT DONE WITH COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WHERE WE'VE GOT AN OPEN HOUSE PLANNED AT CREEKSIDE ON THE 28TH OF SEPTEMBER AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK WITH THAT TEEN FOCUS GROUP AND THEN HAVE ANOTHER OPEN HOUSE SOMETIME IN NOVEMBER .  I POINT THIS TO YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING US. WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO KIND OF SHOW YOU WHERE WE'RE AT IN THE PROCESS AND PROVIDE YOU WITH AN UPDATE.  I WILL SAY AS I GET INTO THESE SITE PLANS AND YOU'LL SEE AS KIND OF BLOCKING PLANS. I APOLOGIZE. EXCUSE ME, MR. MAYOR, MAY I BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE CONCEPT PLANNING, I HAD ONE OTHER QUESTION ABOUT SURVEYS I MAY OH PLEASE. YES. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. I APOLOGIZE FOR THE DISRUPTION BUT I REALIZED I PROBABLY BEFORE I ASK YOU TO BACKTRACK SO MUCH, I'LL ASK IF MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE WE ALSO HAD FOR SOME FOLKS WHO I KNOW THEY WEREN'T PART OF THE STATISTICALLY VALID SURVEY BUT WE HAD SOME COMMUNITIES COMMUNITY GROUPS OVER AT CREEKSIDE FILL OUT SOME OF THE SURVEYS AS WELL AND I WONDER WHERE THAT DATA IS INCLUDED THE DOCUMENTATION THAT'S HERE NO GREAT POINT. THERE WERE A COUPLE OTHER SURVEYS.  ONE WAS THE FULL COMMUNITY SURVEY. SO MORE THAN THE STATISTICALLY VALID WHICH WAS CALLED TO MATCH THE DEMOGRAPHICS THE FULL COMMUNITY SURVEY WE HAVE RESULTS FOR AND WAS THERE A DIFFERENT SURVEY FOR SENIORS?  YEAH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE QUESTION. COUNCIL MEMBER D'ALESSANDRO IN YOUR PACKET TONIGHT IS THE COMPILATION OF THE STATISTICALLY VALID SURVEY AND THE COMMUNITY SURVEY THERE SIDE BY SIDE SO YOU CAN SEE THE THE DIFFERENCE IN THE SIMILARITY BETWEEN THE TWO SO SO THE COMMUNITY SURVEY IS THE ONE THAT WAS VOLUNTARILY DONE BY ANYBODY THAT WENT OUT TO THE WHOLE GROUP AND THAT'S LIKE WHAT THEY COULD DO ONLINE, AM I CORRECT? YES. AND I KNOW WE DID HAVE SOME SPECIAL SPECIAL PRINTOUTS DONE MANUALLY FOR CREEKSIDE FOR THOSE OF FOLKS THAT DIDN'T DO THAT STUFF ONLINE.  IS THAT RIGHT? AND THAT'S ALL COMPILED TOGETHER IN THIS COMMUNITY CENTER? YES, IT IS. I BELIEVE IT WAS 63 HAND COPIES WERE WERE ENTERED FROM THE CREEKSIDE COMMUNITY CENTER. OKAY. IF I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A WAY AS YOU GET TO THE CONCEPT AND HOW THESE THINGS COME TOGETHER, IF YOU CAN POINT OUT TO US WHERE YOU'VE MERGED BOTH THE STATISTICALLY VALID DATA AND THAT COMMUNITY DATA FROM THOSE TWO SOURCES THE ONLINE SOURCES AND THAT THOSE 63 ADDITIONAL THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL COUNCILMEMBER ALESSANDRA ABSOLUTELY. AND IF I COULD JUST MENTION ONE THING AS WELL TOO, I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WE ONLY IN THE FEASIBILITY STUDY PHASE OF THIS PROJECT AND WE HAVEN'T REALLY EVEN STARTED THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT FOR THIS PROJECT I JUST WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE NOT FINISHED WITH THE ENGAGEMENT,  WE'RE JUST STARTING THE ENGAGEMENT AND SO THIS JUST DOUBLE CHECKING MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE RIGHT TYPES OF AMENITIES IN THIS FACILITY BUT ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. VERY HELPFUL. THANKS YOU SORRY AGAIN I APPRECIATE YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT BEFORE WE GOT TOO FAR DOWN THE ROAD. ABSOLUTELY.  OKAY. SO AS AN SAID, WE ARE IN THE PROGRAMING PHASE OF THE PROJECT FEASIBILITY PHASE OF THE PROJECT WHERE WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT THE TYPES OF SPACES THAT WE HAVE IN THE BUILDING, HOW THEY KIND OF LAY OUT ON THE SITE WHAT THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS ARE AND THEN WORKING WITH PROS AND ETSY LOOKING AT SURVEY DATA, LOOKING AT OPERATIONS OF THE FACILITY ETC. SO THERE ARE A LOT OF INPUTS INTO THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO THE END OF THE PROGRAMING PHASE WITH UNDERSTANDING OF THE PROGRAM ITSELF, WHAT SPACES ARE IN THE BUILDING AND HOW THEY MIGHT KIND OF LAY OUT ON THE SITE. SO WHAT WANT TO SAY WHEN I STARTED BEFORE IS WHAT YOU WILL SEE ON THE SCREEN. LOOKS LIKE IT'S FIGURED OUT AND IT'S NOT SO I JUST WANTED MAKE A POINT OF THAT THAT AS WE MOVE THROUGH THIS WE CAN HAVE BIG BUBBLES OF  STUFF IN THE PLANS OR WE CAN GET A LITTLE BIT MORE GRANULAR AND GET A LITTLE BIT MORE ACCURATE KIND OF RESULTS WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT ADJACENCIES, HOW PROGRAMS FIT TOGETHER, ETC. SO THAT'S WHY THESE ARE DRAWN WITH PRETTY STRAIGHT LINES ETC. SO THE SITE PLAN WHAT WE SHOW AND WE HAVE TWO LEVELS OF SITE PLAN HERE AND I'LL GET TO THAT IN 1/2 BUT WHAT THIS IS REALLY LOOKING AT IS PARKING CAPACITY ON THE SITE WHERE WE THINK THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT MAY BE ON THE SITE AND RIGHT NOW THE MAJORITY OF THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT IS SITUATED THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF 90TH AND PENN WITH PARKING KIND OF BEING ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE SITE ALONG.  NEWTON AS WE MOVE UP TO WHAT I WOULD CALL I GUESS THE SECOND FLOOR A SITE PLAN, WE START TO LOOK AT KIND OF HOW SOME OUTDOOR SPACES START TO LAYOUT AROUND THE BUILDING AND.  YOU'LL NOTICE THAT FOR WHICH IS THE GYM SPACE THAT WE SAW ON THE FIRST FLOOR SITE PLAN KIND OF GOES OVER SOME OF THE PARKING. AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE REALLY LOOKING CLOSELY AT ON THE SITE IS HOW WE CHOOSE TO GATHER ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS ON THE SITE AS FAR AS BUILDING FOOTPRINT SURFACE AREA AS WELL AS STORMWATER MANAGEMENT OUTDOOR AREAS ETC. SO IT'S REALLY A PUZZLE OF KIND OF FITTING ALL THESE PIECES TOGETHER AS WE MOVE INTO THESE PLANS, THESE DIAGRAMS AGAIN AS I SAID, THESE ARE NOT FIGURED OUT.  WHAT WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT HERE ARE ADJACENCIES WITHIN THE BUILDING AND VERIFICATION OF THE PROGRAM SIZES THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE HAVE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE TEAMS THAT WE UNDERSTAND HOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE PROGRAMED AND THAT THEY'LL WORK FOR THE PROGRAMS THAT NEED TO TAKE PLACE THOSE SPACES AND SO ON THE FIRST FLOOR DIAGRAM HERE WE HAVE NUMBER SEVEN IS PUBLIC HEALTH. SO PUBLIC HEALTH HAS A PORTION OF THIS BUILDING AS WE SAW IN THE STATISTICALLY VALID SURVEY, INDOOR AQUATICS IS KIND OF A HEAVILY SOUGHT AFTER AMENITY FOR THE FACILITY SO NUMBER THREE IS THE NATATORIUM AND THEN REQUIRED LOCKER ROOMS JUST NORTH OF THAT. THE OTHER PROGRAMS OF NOTE ON THE FIRST FLOOR HERE ARE PARKS AND REC OFFICES ARE NUMBER EIGHT AN INDOOR PLAY AREA WHICH IS NUMBER SIX UP AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE FIRST FLOOR AS WE CONTINUE MOVING THE BUILDING THE SECOND FLOOR IS REALLY DEVOTED TO THREE KIND OF MAJOR COMPONENTS RIGHT NOW. ONE IS THE GYMNASIUM SPACE. WE KNOW THAT THAT IS A SPACE THAT'S IN HIGH DEMAND.  TWO WOULD BE THE SPACES THAT ARE IN THE MAROON RED COLOR AND NUMBER FIVE WHICH ARE PROGRAMED SPACES SUCH AMPS,  MULTIPURPOSE ROOMS AND THERE'S A LARGER MULTIPURPOSE ROOM THAT KIND OF EXPANDS INTO A LARGER EVENT TYPE SPACE.  ADDITIONALLY ON THIS FLOOR WE HAVE SOME EVENT TERRACES.  WE KNOW OUTDOOR SPACE IS SOMETHING THAT IS IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY AND WITH ALL OF THE CONSTRAINTS ON THE SITE RELATIVE TO PARKING, BUILDING FOOTPRINT ETC. WE KNOW IT'S IMPORTANT TO AT LEAST ACKNOWLEDGE THAT SOME OUTDOOR SPACE ON THE BUILDING MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO CONSIDER AS WE MOVE UP TO THE THIRD FLOOR. THIRD FLOOR IS ALMOST WHOLLY DEVOTED TO FITNESS PROGRAMING INDOOR WALKING TRAIL OR TRACK THAT GOES AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE BUILDING AS WELL AS THE CARDIO SPACES AND FITNESS STUDIOS.  AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE SOME OUTDOOR FITNESS AREAS THAT CAN SERVE TO EXPAND SOME OF THE PRO FITNESS SPACES SO PROJECT PRIORITIES SO WE'RE AT IN THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW WITH TRYING TO UNDERSTAND PROGRAMING IN LAYER OVER ALL OF THESE SURVEYS AND FOCUS GROUPS THAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE A LOOK AT THIS THESE DIAGRAMS PLAN DIAGRAMS THAT WE HAVE AND WE'VE STARTED TO LAYER ON SOME OF THESE IMPORTANT SURVEY CRITERIA AS WELL AS THE OUTPUTS THAT WE'VE GOTTEN FROM MY TODD AND CAMP KOTA AND SO THE RED AND BLUE KIND OF CODING ON THE PLAN IS WHERE WE STARTED AND SO RELATIVE TO COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WE'VE HIGHLIGHTED THE SPACES THAT ARE HIGH PRIORITY MEDIUM PRIORITY AND LOW PRIORITY THAT WITH THE ETSY STATISTICALLY VALID SURVEY AND THE REASON THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL OF THESE THINGS AND HOW THEY LAYER UP AS AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PLANNING PROCESS WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS REQUIRED FOR THE BUILDING AND ALIGNING THINGS LIKE BUDGET AND SQUARE FOOTAGE ETC. AND SO WE WANT TO UNDERSTAND IF WE'RE GOING TO BE MAKING DECISIONS WITH THE TEAM WHAT SPACES ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT SPACES ACCORDING TO THE COMMUNITY AND THE OTHER FOCUS GROUPS THAT WE'VE TALKED TO AND SO ON TOP OF THE RED AND BLUE AND GREEN PRIORITIES FROM THE SURVEY WE'VE DONE LAYERED ON THERE WAS A PUBLIC HEALTH SURVEY THAT WAS DONE AS WELL THAT'S UP ON THE TOP LEFT IN PINK LOOKING AT KIND OF WHAT WERE THE IMPORTANT PUBLIC HEALTH SERVICES THAT THAT SURVEY CAME OUT WITH AS WELL.  HOW DOES HOW DO TEEN COMMENTS LAYER OVER AND AUDITORIUM SPACES AND LAYER OVER CAFE ETC. TO KIND OF ADD IMPORTANCE ABOVE AND BEYOND THE STATISTICALLY VALID SURVEY AND THINGS LIKE TODD POD WEIGHING IN ON CHILD CARE AS WELL AS INDOOR PLAYING THAT BEING IMPORTANT TO THEIR USE OF THE BUILDING AND SO AS WE LOOK AT THE OTHER KIND OF FLOORS OF THE BUILDING THROUGH THESE SAME LENSES WE SEE THAT YOU KNOW ON THIS FLOOR WHICH HAS SOME SPACES MULTIPURPOSE SPACES, SOCIAL SPACES AND FITNESS SPACES WITH THE GYM AND THE OUTDOOR SPACES TERRACE SPACES THAT SPACES LIKE THE PUBLIC HEALTH SURVEY CAME OUT WITH COMMENTS THAT TALKED ABOUT COOKING CLASSES AND SO THINGS LIKE THAT IN DEMONSTRATION KITCHEN IS SOMETHING ELSE THAT'S IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER AND THEN TEENS WEIGHING IN ON THINGS LIKE E-SPORTS AND OVERALL INTEREST IN MAKER SPACES AND THEN AS WE MOVE UP TO THE THIRD FLOOR, A THIRD FLOOR IS PRETTY MUCH ACROSS THE BOARD HIGH PRIORITY ACCORDING TO THE ETSY SURVEY AS IT'S ALL FITNESS SPACES.  BUT ON TOP OF THAT LOOKING THROUGH THE LENS OF THE TEENS AND TALKING ABOUT FITNESS CLASSES AND THEM NOT WANTING TO MAYBE SIGN UP FOR SEVERAL MONTH CLASS BUT BEING ABLE TO TRY A CLASS SO THAT IS INFORMING OUR PROGRAMING AS WELL. AND THEN THE TODD TALKING ABOUT WALKING THEY DON'T WANT TO WALK AROUND A TRACK THEY'D RATHER WALK ON A TREADMILL, THEY'D RATHER WALK AROUND THE FACILITY OKAY I'M TO QUICKLY GO THROUGH THE LAST COUPLE OF SLIDES HERE SO IN ADDITION TO THE PRIORITIES WE'VE HEARD FROM THE SURVEYS FROM ETSY SURVEY STATISTICALLY VALID SURVEY, WE ALSO HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH PROS THE COST RECOVERY PIECE AND SO THIS IS ANOTHER LAYER OF INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT SPACES ARE GOING TO BRING IN MORE REVENUE VERSUS LESS. AND SO READ IS THIS IS JUST SAMPLE OF OUR PROGRAM BUT WE'RE ADD WOULD BE HIGH REVENUE GENERATING YELLOW MEDIUM AND THEN GRAY LITTLE TO NO AND SO AGAIN WE DID ANOTHER HEATMAP SO THIS REALLY STARTS TO AGAIN IDENTIFY WHAT ARE HIGH COST RECOVERY WHAT MIGHT BE MEDIUM SO AQUATICS IS SOMETHING THAT WE DEFINITELY TO FOCUS ON THE GYM AND THEN THE FITNESS ON THE TOP FLOOR SO LOTS OF INFORMATION FOR OUR TEAM TO TAKE IN TO TRY TO PRIORITIZE WHAT NEEDS TO STAY IN THIS FACILITY PARTICULARLY AS WE'RE RIGHT SIZING IT WITH THE BUDGET THAT WE HAVE WHICH IS A GREAT PLACE TO BE. QUICKLY NEXT STEPS  WE ARE MEETING WITH OUR CORE TEAM ON THURSDAY.  GOT ANOTHER PARK COMMISSION MEETING ON THE 11TH. I WILL BE BACK HERE IN THREE WEEKS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.  COUNCIL QUESTIONS COMMENTS ON THIS COUNCILMEMBER NELSON YEAH THANKS MAYOR. JUST QUICKLY CAN YOU GO BACK A FEW SLIDES YOU HAD COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PRIORITIES IT WAS UNDER I THINK THE ORIGINAL TITLE WAS PROJECT PRIORITIES.  CAN YOU TELL ME WHERE SENIORS ARE LISTED IN THERE?  WE DID NOT MEET SPECIFICALLY WITH SENIORS AS A FOCUS GROUP. I KNOW THAT AND AND HER TEAM HAVE BEEN HAVING MONTHLY MEETINGS ONSITE TO BRING THEM UP TO SPEED AND BE TRANSPARENT ABOUT THE PROCESS AND THE PLAN AS WELL AS THOSE SURVEYS.  NANCY, CAN YOU GO TO THE SECOND FLOOR OR THE EVENT SPACES? SO EVERYTHING IN PURPLE HERE IS DEPICTED TO BE SPACE WOULD BE USED FOR SENIOR PROGRAMING SUCH AS BLUE BLUE BLUISH PURPLE BLUISH PURPLE YEAH THE UPPER LEFT THE UPPER LEFT SECTION THOSE ARE ALL MULTIPURPOSE ROOMS.  THEN THE LARGER ONE ON THE BOTTOM IS AN EVENT SPACE THAT COULD BE POTENTIALLY DIVIDED INTO THREE DIFFERENT SPACES AND THEN THERE IS I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT THAT SAYS, NANCY. IT'S RECREATION AND COMMUNITY ROOM. YEAH SO LOTS OF FLEXIBLE SPACES THERE .  COUNCIL ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN AND COUNCILMEMBER COUNCILMEMBER AMAN.  THANK YOU MAYOR. SO I KNOW THAT YOU KNOW WE'VE BEEN AT THIS PROCESS OF COMMUNITY CENTER FOR A WHILE AND I KNOW THAT DURING THE LAST PROCESS I KNOW THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF INFORMATION GATHERED FROM DIFFERENT CONSTITUENCIES. COULD YOU TALK LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW THAT WORK HAS BEEN DONE OVER THE I KNOW I THINK LEAST A COUPLE OF TIMES WE'VE DONE THIS BEFORE. HOW THAT WAS YOU KNOW, PUT INTO INTO THIS AND THEN SECONDARILY IF YOU COULD TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW STAFF LOOKS AT SURVEYS AND HOW IT HOW IT IS A PART OF THIS DECISION MAKING PROCESS BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT THE ONLY DATA POINT THAT WE USE TO TRY TO DETERMINE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. YES, THAT IS CORRECT. COUNCILMAN COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE QUESTION. THE ONE THING THAT THAT I WANT TO ADD TO AND NANCY WAS NOT ON BOARD YET I BELIEVE WE GOT YOU ALL ON BOARD AROUND APRIL MAY AND WE STARTED OUR FEASIBILITY WORK WITH PROS CONSULTING IN FEBRUARY AND WE STARTED IF YOU ALL REMEMBER WITH A SERIES OF FOCUS GROUP MEETINGS AND WE DID FOCUS GROUP MEETINGS WITH A OF DIFFERENT GROUPS INCLUDING THE COUNCIL, THE PARK COMMISSION, THE CREEKSIDE, ALL OF THE LEADERS GROUPS AT CREEKSIDE AND A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT STAFF GROUPS AS SO THAT KICKED OFF OUR PROCESS EARLIER IN 2024.  ADDITIONALLY, YOU KNOW I THINK IT'S SAFE TO SAY THAT THE COMMUNITY CENTER WORK FOR THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON STARTED AROUND 2014 2015 HCA PARTNERED WITH THE CITY BACK THEN WE'VE DONE A WHOLE VARIETY OF COMMUNITY AS PART OF THIS WORK WE A LOT OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IN A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT WAYS.  IF YOU REMEMBER BACK IN 2019 WE SPENT A WHOLE YEAR A POTENTIAL COMMUNITY CENTER AT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.  THE ENGAGEMENT THAT WE'VE DONE WITH THE COMMUNITY WITH THE CREEKSIDE SENIORS WITH A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT POTENTIAL USERS HAS REALLY BEEN SIGNIFICANT AND FOR THE BETTER PART OF TEN YEARS. AND THEN ONE LAST THING HERE SO THEN WHICH SURPRISED ME BUT THERE'S BEEN SOME IN THE MARKETPLACE IN TERMS OF HOW THESE CENTERS OPERATE AND AND WORK. I'M CURIOUS IF YOU WOULD TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT IN TERMS OF HOW SENIORS HAVE BEEN INTEGRATED INTO OTHER MORE RECENT COMMUNITY CENTERS. THANK VERY MUCH. COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. YES, THAT IS CORRECT. IT IS A TREND THAT HAS REALLY BEEN HAPPENING FOR THE PAST 20 YEARS. OVER 20 YEARS AGO IT WAS RECOMMENDED BY AAFP THAT CITIES NO LONGER BUILD STANDALONE SENIOR CENTERS THAT THEY MAKE THEM MULTIGENERATIONAL FACILITIES AND THAT IS THE DIRECTION THAT A LOT OF CITIES HAVE BEEN MOVING. NOT ALL CERTAINLY BUT THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE A MULTIGENERATIONAL FACILITY TO MEET THE NEEDS OF EVERY MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE ARE FOCUSING ON SIGNIFICANTLY. WE'RE ALSO FOCUSING ON MULTIPURPOSE SPACES SO SPACES THAT WOULD BE USED AS I MENTIONED THE PURPLE BLUE SPACES UP IN IN THE UPPER LEFT HAND SIDE ARE SPACES THAT WOULD BE USED FOR SENIOR PROGRAMING CERTAINLY DURING THE DAY AND THEN COULD BE TURNED OVER TO TEAM FACILITIES OR FAMILY PROGRAMS WEEKENDS.  SO WE INTEND TO USE THIS FACILITY AS MUCH AS WE POSSIBLY CAN. WE HAVE LEON YOUNGER FROM PRO'S CONSULTING ON THE CALL AS WELL. HE'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS AS WELL. BUT WE WANT THESE SPACES IN THIS FACILITY TO BE USED 75 TO 80% OF THE TIME ALL DAY, ALL EVENING AND ALL WEEKENDS. THAT'S WAY WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THE MOST EFFICIENT FACILITY.  COUNCILMEMBER THANK YOU, MAYOR THIS QUESTION IS FOR YOU AND I'VE SEEN A LOT OF THE COMMUNITY STUFF BUT HAVE WE HAD THE COMMUNICATION WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD?  I ASK THAT BECAUSE I DROVE AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD THE OTHER DAY AND IT IS RATHER QUIET AND WITH A FACILITY FACILITY LIKE THIS IT WILL BECOME JUST BUSIER. RIGHT. SO WHEN DOES THAT CONVERSATION HAPPEN WITH THE NEIGHBORS TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE ON BOARD ON AND KNOWING WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN THEIR BACKYARD? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. COUNCILMEMBER, YOU VERY MUCH. WE PLAN TO KICK OFF THE COMMUNITY FOR THIS PROJECT AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER. THE DATE IS ESCAPING ME THE 28TH. IT IS IT IS A SATURDAY EVENING AND WE PLAN TO HAVE A COMMUNITY KICKOFF FOR THE COMMUNITY CENTER PROJECT THAT'S WHEN WE'RE GOING TO BE MOVING TO SCHEMATIC DESIGN. WE'RE GOING TO DO AN EVENT SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID FOR THE NINE MILE PROJECT IF YOU REMEMBER THAT WHERE WE DID A COMMUNITY KICKOFF AND AND HOPE TO GET PEOPLE ENGAGED AND EXCITED THE PROJECT AND CERTAINLY INFORM THE NEIGHBORS AS TO WHAT'S GOING TO BE GOING ON IN THEIR BACKYARDS AS WELL. WE ALSO INTEND TO HAVE MEETINGS WITH THE NEIGHBORS SPECIFICALLY. WE PLAN TO BRING H.J. AND OUR CONSTRUCTION MANAGER INTO THAT CONVERSATION SO THAT THEY'RE SURE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT TO EXPECT THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PROCESS FROM FROM THE TIME THAT CREEKSIDE COMES DOWN TO THE CONSTRUCTION STARTS THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PROCESS. SO I CAN ASSURE YOU WE WILL BE ENGAGING SIGNIFICANTLY WITH THE NEIGHBORS.  ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS COUNCIL DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT. THANK YOU THANKS FOR THE UPDATE AND FOR THE PRESENTATION AND FOR THE ENGAGEMENT THAT IS GOING ON SO THE ENGAGEMENT THAT I KNOW IS GOING TO HAPPEN AND CONTINUE TO HAPPEN AND LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS PROCESS CONTINUING FORWARD. THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.  WILL BE ON TO ITEM THREE ON COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO. THANK YOU MR. MAYOR I JUST WANT TO THIS IS NOT SPECIFICALLY A QUESTION MORE OF A COMMENT THAN ANYTHING.  I THINK JUST TO REITERATE THAT WHAT I UNDERSTOOD THIS EXERCISE FOR AND IF I'M WRONG ON THIS PLEASE LET ME KNOW IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE THE THE COMBINATION GREATEST NEED AND HIGHEST INTEREST IN THE AMENITIES THAT COULD BE IN A COMMUNITY CENTER THAT WAS MEANT FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY THE FULL GENERATIONAL IMPACT FROM ALL LITTLE KIDS AND YOU KNOW FROM THAT IS WHAT THE CHRISTMAS SONG FROM TO TO 92 OR WHATEVER IT IS RIGHT THAT'S THE GOAL RATE SO.  SO I FEEL GOOD THAT THIS GAVE US THAT DATA. NOW THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY TRANSLATE INTO THIS IS WHAT THE COMMUNITY CENTER IS GOING TO HAVE NOR DOES IT TRANSLATE INTO EVERY SINGLE, YOU KNOW, SPACE THAT'S GOING TO BE ALLOCATED IS FOR ONE GROUP OF PEOPLE VERSUS ANOTHER. IT'S INTENDED TO BE AS FLEXIBLE AS POSSIBLE. SO I GUESS THE QUESTION THAT I WOULD POSE TO MAYBE US AS A GROUP HERE IS WHAT IS IT THAT WE SHOULD DOING AT THIS STAGE IN OUR COMMUNICATIONS TO OUR CONSTITUENTS AND STUFF TO HELP PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE IN THIS PROCESS AND TO TO THE EXTENT THAT WE NEED TO TO PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION OR ALL FEEDBACK THAT WE MIGHT GET ON THIS PARTICULAR PARTICULAR TOPIC BECAUSE I THINK THAT THERE'S SO MANY OTHER TOPICS THAT ARE GOING TO COME UP HERE IN THE COMING MONTHS, RIGHT ABOUT EXACTLY WHAT WHAT SENIOR PROGRAMING LOOKS LIKE FOR AMPLE OR WHAT KIDS PROGRAMING LOOKS LIKE OR YOU KNOW, WHAT DAYCARE MIGHT LOOK LIKE IF WE HAVE THAT WE DON'T KNOW ANY OF THAT YET. AND SO AS ALL OF THAT COMES IN THERE, ANYTHING THAT'S IN THIS PRESENTATION THAT WE NEED TO KEEP CONTINUING TO COME BACK TO AND MAKE SURE WE'RE WE'RE KEEPING AN EYE ON AND WE'RE MORE MANAGING AS A AS A COUNCIL TO HOLDING THOSE PRIORITIES THAT'S AT IT'S MOSTLY FOR US AS A QUICK AND IT MAYBE ISN'T APPROPRIATE AT THE MOMENT JUST BECAUSE THAT SOUNDS LIKE A STUDY ITEM I REALIZE BUT BUT IT FEELS LIKE THIS IS A MOMENT WHERE WE'RE MOVING FROM HEY WE'VE GOT WE'VE GOT A BUCKET OF THINGS RIGHT AND WE'VE GOT A SENSE FOR THOSE BUCKETS OF THINGS THAT ARE HIGH PRIORITY, HIGH VALUE POTENTIALLY CAN HELP US MAINTAIN YOU KNOW, OPERATIONAL COST YOU KNOW, BREAK EVEN OR BETTER WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL THAT. WHAT DO WE WHAT SHOULD WE BE DOING AS A COUNCIL WITH THIS INFORMATION AS WE MOVE FORWARD INTO THE OTHER PIECES OF INFORMATION THAT'S NOW GOING TO COME OUT? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. COUNCILMEMBER AND I THINK THE ANSWER IS THAT I THINK WHAT WE BASICALLY JUST HEARD THIS EVENING ARE YOU MADE THE STATEMENT I MEAN THERE'S A LOT WE STILL DON'T KNOW A LOT WE DON'T KNOW. BUT I THINK IT'S INCUMBENT UPON US AND PART OF OUR RESPONSIBILITY HERE IS TO SHARE WITH WHAT WE DO KNOW, WHAT WE JUST HEARD, WHAT WE LEARNED FROM THE FOCUS GROUPS, WHAT WE HAVE LEARNED FROM THE SURVEYS, WHAT WE'VE LEARNED FROM OUR DECADE OF DOING THIS KIND OF AND IN TERMS OF WHAT THE PRIORITIES ARE IN TERMS OF WHAT THE THE COMMUNITY WIDE NEEDS ARE AND HOW THIS COULD BEST WORK FOR THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON ALL 91,000 PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. AND SO I WOULD SAY I MEAN MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE STICKING TO THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE FRONT OF US.  I WOULDN'T FREESTYLE, I WOULDN'T EXTRAPOLATE. I WOULDN'T THINK WOULD THINK THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US AND ULTIMATELY TO TRUST THE PROCESS THAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE PROCESS WE HAVE SEEN WE HAVE TWO VERY GOOD EXAMPLES AND YOU WERE AT BOTH RIBBON CUTTINGS OR GROUNDBREAKING FOR BOTH BALL PARK AND BRYANT PARK WHERE THE WORK THAT WENT INTO THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND THE DESIGN AND HOW WHAT WHAT THE PARK COULD OR SHOULD BE FROM WE TALKED ABOUT THIS FROM 30% DESIGN UNTIL THE FINISHED PRODUCT WAS AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT THING TRUST THE PROCESS BECAUSE I THINK WE HAVE SEEN IT IN AND WE'VE SEEN IT VERY SUCCESSFULLY IN ACTION AND I EXPECT IT'S GOING TO BE THE CASE HERE AS WELL. THIS IS A CONVERSATION AND IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YOU KNOW, NEXT WEEKS, MONTHS AS WE AS WE MOVE INTO THIS AND I, I TRUST THAT OUR STAFF AND THEN OUR CONSULTANTS AND THAT THE PEOPLE PROVIDING FEEDBACK I THINK WE'RE GOING TO END UP WITH A COMMUNITY CENTER THAT REFLECTS THE COMMUNITY AND THAT REFLECTS WHAT PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY WANT AND IT'S JUST A MATTER OF FOLLOWING THE PROCESS AND MAKING OUR WAY THROUGH ON THAT. THAT'S MY TAKE ON IT. I DON'T KNOW IF OTHERS HAVE THOUGHTS ON THAT. MR. MAYOR, IF I COUNCIL MEMBER OR MR. FAROOQ PROMOTION I THANK YOU MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS I THINK I THINK THE KEY WORD AGAIN IS JUST ALIGNMENT, RIGHT? IS WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE WORK WE'RE DOING IN ENGAGEMENT AND WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS TELLING US THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS IN ALIGNMENT WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING ON THE FEASIBILITY ASSESSMENT AND THEN HOW THAT TRANSLATE ULTIMATELY INTO BUILDING PROGRAM AND COST RECOVERY MODEL. RIGHT. AND SO YOU KNOW ONE OF THE PLACES WHERE WE POTENTIALLY COULD HAVE GOTTEN OUT OF STEP IS IF WE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT THEIR HIGHEST PRIORITIES WERE LOT OF ELEMENTS THAT DON'T HAVE HIGH COST RECOVERY POTENTIAL.  RIGHT. THAT COULD HAVE PUT US INTO A DIFFERENT POSITION IN TERMS OF HOW WE'RE REVIEWING THE SPACE ALLOCATION AND HOW WE DO HOW WE DEVELOP THE BUSINESS MODEL.  SO WHAT I WOULD SAY RIGHT NOW IS THAT I THINK WE'RE REASSURED THAT THERE'S THERE'S PRETTY STRONG ALIGNMENT RIGHT BETWEEN WHAT WE UNDERSTAND THE COMMUNITY IS SAYING ARE THEIR HIGHEST PRIORITIES AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AS THE BEST WAY TO OPERATE A SUCCESSFUL CENTER A FROM A FINANCIAL PERSPECTIVE BUT ALSO FROM A SERVICE PERSPECTIVE AS PART OF OUR MODEL. SO I WOULD SAY KEEP ALIGNMENT MIND AND THEN AS YOU KNOW WE'VE GOT SOME DECISION POINTS THAT ARE COMING HERE IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE WITH THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE FEASIBILITY REPORT AND SOME OTHER THINGS AS WE START TO MOVE TOWARDS FIGURING OUT HOW THOSE SPACE ALLOCATIONS GET MADE.  COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN THANK YOU, MAYOR AND I WANT TO BE CAREFUL I'M NOT AS YOU SO ELOQUENTLY SAID, FREESTYLING I'M SO YOU KNOW THERE ARE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE CERTAINLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE PROGRAMS THAT THEY CURRENTLY HAVE THAT ARE RIGHT THERE IN THE CENTER.  AND I KNOW THAT MAYOR, YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS IDEA OF CENTERS OF COMMUNITY AND SO WHAT I'VE I'VE HAD TO KIND OF GET MYSELF TO KIND OF LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, TRUSTING THE PROCESS AS YOU HAVE TALKED ABOUT. YOU KNOW, WE'VE SEEN A NUMBER OF CHANGES THAT HAVE HAPPENED OVER THE YEARS AND SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, PROGRAMS AS YOU KNOW EVOLVE AND CHANGE AND THEY END UP IN DIFFERENT PLACES. YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE A PLACE THAT CAN BE SUPPORTED.  AND SO I JUST YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF THAT THAT CONCEPT THAT YOU KNOW, YOU CAN YOU JUST RAISE JUST NOW FOR THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE PROGRAMS ARE THAT ARE CURRENTLY TAKING PLACE I WOULD ASK YOU MAYOR WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO THEM? YOU KNOW AND I WANT TO BE ABOUT ANY PARTICULAR PROGRAMS BECAUSE I HAVE THE SAME CONCERN THAT YOU KNOW THAT THEY HAVE. BUT I'M AS YOU SAID, I'M WANTING TO TRUST TRUST THE PROCESS THAT'S GOING TO SHAKE OUT. ALL RIGHT. WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THOSE? I THINK THAT WHAT I WOULD SAY, COUNCILMEMBER, IS THAT THINGS ARE GOING TO CHANGE. IT'S GOING TO CHANGE BECAUSE CREEKSIDE WILL NOT BE THERE ANYMORE AND THERE WILL BE THERE WILL BE DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES PERHAPS IN DIFFERENT SPACES AT DIFFERENT LOCATIONS. I PERHAPS JUST DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES IN TERMS OF THE THE PROGRAMING INVOLVED BUT IT'S GOING TO CHANGE. I MEAN I THINK THAT'S WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT WE'VE SEEN SUCCESS BUT WE'VE ALSO SEEN A FACILITY THAT IS WELL PAST ITS USEFUL LIFE AND WE NEED TO WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD IN BLOOMINGTON REGARDING A COMMUNITY CENTER, A HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY AND THAT IS GOING TO IT'S GOING TO RESULT IN CHANGE IN PROGRAMING.  AND WHAT OUR JOB IS IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN ACCOMMODATE THE PROGRAMING NEEDS THE DESIRES OF EVERYONE, WHETHER IT'S FOLKS FROM THE TOD POD TO THE TEENS TO THE FOLKS THAT WE SEE OUT HERE.  BUT UNDERSTANDING THAT WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT IS RIGHT NOW AND IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT IT IS RIGHT NOW.  COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO, YOU HAD A COMMENT. YES, I'M MAY I JUST BECAUSE MR. FREIBERG YOU BROUGHT IT UP. I WANTED TO JUST FOLLOW UP VERY QUICKLY. THERE'S ALSO SOME PRETTY INTERESTING DOCUMENTATION STARTING ON PAGE LIKE I THINK IT'S 96 OF THE PRESENTATION THAT TALKS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE THE THE FINANCIALS. AND SO I JUST WANTED TO GET A SENSE FOR WHETHER OR NOT THIS DATA IS IS BEING USED TO INFORM SOME OF THE COST RECOVERY QUESTIONS THAT WERE WE WERE ALSO LOOKING TO ADDRESS IT'S MOST SPECIFICALLY ONE OF THE OPEN QUESTIONS IS YOU KNOW WHAT'S THE PREFERRED QUESTION 14 WHAT WHAT'S THE MOST PREFERRED WAY OF OF PAYING SOME AMENITIES WHAT WOULD BE THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT THEY'D BE WILLING TO SPEND?  YOU KNOW THOSE KINDS OF THINGS ARE WE ARE WE IS THAT ALSO TRACKING IS ALIGNMENT THERE AS WE SEE IT TODAY OR IS THERE MORE DATA THAT NEEDS TO BE GATHERED IN THAT AREA? AND IF THAT'S COMING UP IN A FUTURE PRESENTATION, I'M HAPPY TO DEFER THE QUESTION BUT I I WANTED TO TO JUST SINCE IT WAS IN THE PACKET I WANTED TO ADDRESS IT SINCE WE THOUGHT WE HAD A SLIDE ABOUT COST RECOVERY HERE. SO MR. MAYOR, COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO, THOSE SPECIFICS OF THE BUSINESS OPERATING MODEL HAVEN'T FULLY BEEN DEVELOPED YET SO THAT'LL BE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION COMING TO THE COUNCIL IN THE FUTURE. OKAY ALL RIGHT, THANKS. APPRECIATE IT.  SO ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS?  VERY GOOD.  WE WILL MOVE ON IN OUR AGENDA AND WE WILL MOVE TO ITEM THREE IN OUR AGENDA A CONSENT BUSINESS COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN HAS TONIGHT'S CONSENT BUSINESS ASSEMBLYWOMAN HUMANA IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO HOLD ANYTHING TONIGHT RIGHT HERE I WILL GO AHEAD MOVE 3.1 THROUGH 3.1 11 SO MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER TO ACCEPT TONIGHT'S CONSENT BUSINESS AS STATED NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER LOHMANN MOVE ON ITEM FOUR ARE HEARINGS, RESOLUTIONS AND ORDINANCES AND AS I MENTIONED WHEN TALKING ABOUT OUR AGENDA EARLIER HAVE ONE PUBLIC HEARING THIS EVENING I AM 4.1 AND I WILL ASK OUR CITY ENGINEER JULIE LA TO LEAD US THROUGH THIS. GOOD EVENING. WELCOME.  THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. COUNCIL ANYONE WHO TO BUILD SOMETHING IN AN EXISTING EASEMENT WHETHER IT'S OURSELVES OR SOMEONE FROM THE PUBLIC WE MAY GO THROUGH A PROCESS EITHER AN ENCROACHMENT PROCESS OR A VACATION PROCESS IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE WE ARE LOOKING AT THE BLOOMINGTON ICE GARDEN SITE AND THEY ARE LOOKING FOR A VACATION OF AN EXISTING EASEMENT BECAUSE THE ADDITION IS GOING TO ENCROACH INTO THAT EASEMENT AND WE LIKE TO DO THE VACATION BECAUSE THAT CONTACTS ALL THE UTILITY COMPANIES AND WE GOT TO GET ACROSS ALL THE T'S AND DOT THE I'S AND IT'S FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.  I AGREE THIS ONE IS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON, JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION FOR A CLARIFICATION JUST SO EVERYONE'S AWARE OF US DOING THIS FOR US IS NOT AN UNUSUAL SITUATION AND WHAT WE ARE DOING IS NOT UNUSUAL AND NOT CREATE PRECEDENT FOR OTHER BUSINESS SAYS OR THINGS LIKE THAT. THAT WOULD BE CHALLENGING FOR THE CITY ESSENTIALLY NO ONE CAN COME BACK WHERE YOU DID IT FOR YOUR OWN PROPERTY. WHY DON'T YOU DO IT FOR MINE? THIS IS TOTALLY NORMAL STRAIGHTFORWARD IS THAT MR. MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER NELSON IT IS PART OF OUR STANDARD PRACTICE. WE HAVE DONE IT FOR SEVERAL OTHERS MULTIPLE TIMES IN THE PAST.  WE ANTICIPATE DOING IT IN THE FUTURE ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY'RE EMPTY LIKE THIS PARTICULAR EXISTING EASEMENT IS.  THANK YOU. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS?  VERY GOOD. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING SO I WILL CALL A PUBLIC HEARING AND I AM 4.1.  THIS IS REGARDING A PARTIAL VACATION OF A PUBLIC DRAINAGE AND EASEMENT OVER AND ACROSS LOT ONE BLOCK ONE BLOOMINGTON NICE GARDEN ADDITION IS THERE ANYONE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO US 4.1 THIS EVENING ELIZABETH THERE ANYONE ON THE PHONE?  MR. MAYOR? THERE'S NOBODY ONLINE. LAST CALL FOR ANYBODY IN THE CHAMBERS TO SPEAK TO THIS COUNCIL, NOBODY ON THE PHONE, NO ONE COMING FORWARD IN THE CHAMBERS. I WOULD LOOK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING IN ITEM 4.1.  SO MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON IT AND 4.1 NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO COUNCIL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS I WOULD LOOK FOR ACTION THAT IN 4.1 COUNCILMEMBER THANK YOU MAYOR I WOULD MOVE TO ADOPT AN ORDINANCE APPROVING THE PARTIAL ALLOCATION OF PUBLIC DRAINAGE AND UTILITIES EASEMENT OVER AN ACROSS LOT ONE BLOCK ONE BLOOMINGTON NICE GARDEN IN ADDITION HENNEPIN COUNTY, MINNESOTA. SECOND MOST OF MY COUNCILMEMBER SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER BOWMAN TO ADOPT THE ORDINANCE APPROVING THE PROPOSAL VACATION OF PUBLIC DRAINAGE AND UTILITY EASEMENT AS DEFINED IN ITEM 4.1 NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSE MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND THAT WAS OUR ONE AND ONLY PUBLIC HEARING THIS EVENING AND WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM FIVE OUR ORGANIZATIONAL BUSINESS AND WE WERE GOING TO START WITH ITEM 5.1 WHICH IS AN UPDATE ON OUR CANNABIS BUSINESS REGISTRATION STANDARDS AND ZONING. AND I THINK THIS IS A DUAL PRESENTATION WE'VE GOT MATT GRILLOT OUR DEPUTY CITY CLERK AND EMILY HESS BECKER PLANNER ONE OF OUR PLANNERS IS GOING TO LEAD US THROUGH THIS CRIMINAL  SO MAKE SURE THAT WAS MARY HILL GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL IT'S GOOD TO BE IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT PRESENTING A LITTLE CHANGE OF PACE FROM MY EARLIER ROLE AS COUNCIL SECRETARY AS THE MAYOR OF HURT DEPUTY CITY CLERK JOINED BY EMILY FROM THE PLANNING DIVISION.  WE'RE BACK WITH ANOTHER UPDATE ON CANNABIS BUSINESS REGULATION AS WE WERE THE CITY CLERK WAS LAST IN FRONT OF YOU IN JUNE WHERE THIS IS MOSTLY NOT NEW INFORMATION FOR YOU TONIGHT BUT WE'RE JUST CHECKING BACK IN ON A COUPLE OF ITEMS. I KNOW THAT PRESENTATION RAN VERY LATE IN THE EVENING AND FOR AT LEAST ONE OF THE ITEMS WE SOME NEW INFORMATION AND THEN I KNOW ON ONE OF THE OTHER ITEMS WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT COUNCIL BASICALLY BROUGHT IT UP AND THEN QUICKLY ADJOURNED THE MEETING SO TONIGHT WILL BE JUST GIVING A BRIEF UPDATE. WE'LL HAVE SOME DISCUSSION AS WE I THINK THE BEST WAY TO DO IT PROBABLY AS WE GO THROUGH THE DISCUSSION OR AS I GO THROUGH THE SLIDES WE'LL JUST PAUSE FOR DISCUSSION AND INPUT ON THOSE THREE BULLET POINTS THERE AND THEN EMILY WILL PROVIDE A BRIEF ZONING UPDATE PLANNING STAFFS NOT LOOKING FOR ADDITIONAL INPUT AT THIS TIME ON THE ZONING OR THE ZONING ASPECT OR THE ZONING ORDINANCE AS THAT ITEM HAS ALREADY GONE TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR A PUBLIC HEARING NOW WITH TONIGHT'S INPUT ON THE LICENSING STANDARDS WILL BRING FORWARD BOTH ORDINANCES THE LICENSING THE ZONING AT A PUBLIC HEARING IN SEPTEMBER SO REALLY QUICKLY THE LICENSING PROCESS HOW IT'S GOING TO WORK WITH THE OFFICE OF CANNABIS MANAGEMENT, CANNABIS BUSINESSES APPLY THE ACM REVIEWS THAT APPLICATION AND THEY ISSUE A CONDITIONAL APPROVAL THE LICENSE THE LICENSE OR THE PRELIMINARY PRELIMINARY LICENSE HOLDER THEN FINDS LOCATION THEY THEY CONFIRM WITH THE CITY THAT LOCATION IS APPROPRIATE THAT IT CONFORMS WITH THE ZONING BUILDING AND FIRE CODE . THE CITY CONFIRMS THAT TO THE OFFICE OF CANNABIS MANAGEMENT AND THEN THE THE OFFICE OF CANNABIS MANAGEMENT ISSUES THE LICENSE THE CITY ISSUES THE REGISTRATION AND THEN THE CITY'S ONGOING RESPONSIBILITIES WITH REGARDS TO CANNABIS BUSINESSES ARE TO CONDUCT COMPLIANCE CHECKS.  WE CAN SUSPEND TEMPORARILY SUSPEND REGISTRATIONS IF THERE ARE ANY ISSUES AND THEN FURTHERMORE CITIES DO COLLECT REGISTRATION FEES FROM EACH CANNABIS BUSINESS OR I SHOULD SAY EACH CANNABIS RETAIL BUSINESS AND WE WOULD RECEIVE A SHARE OF THE STATE'S CANNABIS TAX REVENUE.  THE FIRST POLICY ITEM WE'RE LOOKING FOR SOME INPUT ON IS THE NEW ONE. THE ONE THAT WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT BACK IN JUNE.  SO AS YOU MAY RECALL A LOWER POTENCY HEMP EDIBLE PRODUCTS WERE LEGALIZED BACK IN 2022 SO THAT WAS PRIOR TO THE FULL LEGALIZATION OF MARIJUANA.  MINNESOTA THESE PRODUCTS ARE SOLD AT VARIOUS RETAIL OUTLETS RANGING FROM LIQUOR STORES, TOBACCO STORES, GROCERY THEY'RE THEY'RE BASICALLY ALLOWED TO BE SOLD IN IN NEARLY ANY RETAIL ENVIRONMENT TODAY SINCE THAT LAST COUNCIL DISCUSSION IN JUNE THE OFFICE OF CANNABIS MANAGEMENT HAS INDICATED IN THEIR IN SOME OF THEIR MODEL ORDINANCE LANGUAGE THAT THEY'VE SHARED THAT LOCAL GOVERNMENTS CAN ADOPT DIFFERENT STANDARDS FOR THESE LOWER POTENCY HEMP EDIBLE PRODUCTS COMPARED TO FULL CANNABIS RETAIL DISPENSARIES.  SO I DO AND I DO WANT TO EMPHASIZE THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. WE'VE GOT THE HEMP PRODUCTS THAT HAVE BEEN ON THE AND THEN WE HAVE CANNABIS DISPENSARIES OR CANNABIS RETAIL THAT'S COMING OUT AND THE OFFICE OF CANNABIS MANAGEMENT ALSO INDICATED THAT ONE OF THE AREAS WHERE CITIES CAN SET DIFFERENT STANDARDS BETWEEN THOSE TWO TYPES ARE BETWEEN THOSE TWO PRODUCTS IS DIFFERENT BUFFER DISTANCES. AND THEN THE LAST BULLET POINT IS REALLY THE MOST INTERESTING ONE CITIES MAY LIMIT HEMP PRODUCTS TO EXCLUSIVE AGE 21 PLUS ESTABLISHMENTS SUCH AS LIQUOR STORES OR EXCLUSIVE 21 PLUS TOBACCO STORES. THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE KNEW BEFORE THE MODEL ORDINANCE LANGUAGE HAD COME OUT. SO WE WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU ALL JUST TO TO GET YOUR YOUR INPUT OR FEEDBACK ON THAT.  WE'VE ALSO GOTTEN SOME INFORMATION FROM A STUDY THAT WAS DONE IN A STUDY THAT WAS DONE BY THE U OF M IN MINNEAPOLIS THAT FOUND THAT RETAILERS WERE FAILING THEIR AGE COMPLIANCE CHECKS AT A HIGHER RATE THAN IS THAN IS TYPICAL FOR LIQUOR STORES AND TOBACCO STORES AND I THINK WHILE I HAVEN'T READ THE STUDY I WOULD GUESS THAT THAT IS BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE PRODUCTS ARE SOLD BY ESTABLISHMENTS THAT AREN'T USED TO CARDING PEOPLE. THEY'RE SOLD IN GROCERY STORES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO WITH THAT WE'D LIKE TO KIND OF PAUSE AND GET THE GET THE COUNCIL'S FEEDBACK ON ON THE CITY'S ABILITY TO POTENTIALLY LIMIT THESE PRODUCTS TO AGE 21 PLUS EXCLUSIVE ESTABLISHMENTS . THE THE IMPLICATION OF THAT WOULD MEAN THAT SOME BUSINESSES IN BLOOMINGTON ARE NO LONGER ABLE TO SELL WOULD NO LONGER BE ELIGIBLE TO SELL THOSE PRODUCTS. SO THAT'S POTENTIALLY A GROCERY STORE, A GAS STATION, ANY TOBACCO LICENSES THAT  ARE NOT A 21 PLUS EXCLUSIVE ESTABLISHMENT.  COUNCILMEMBER CARTER, THANK YOU MAYOR A CLARIFYING QUESTION. SO I KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME RESTAURANTS WHO OR EVEN LIKE THE LOCAL BREWERY HERE WHO HAVE PRODUCTS THAT THEY MIGHT SELL EITHER FOR CONSUMPTION ON SITE AS SOME THE RESTAURANTS DO OR TO BE SOLD AND TAKEN HOME.  AND SO WOULD THAT IF WE WERE TO LIMIT THE HEMP PRODUCTS EXCLUSIVE 21 PLUS ESTABLISHMENTS WOULD THAT MEAN THAT THEY NO LONGER CAN SELL THOSE PRODUCTS? MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER CARTER SO I'LL THAT WOULD NOT IMPACT THE ON SALE THE ABILITY PRODUCTS TO BE SOLD FOR ONSITE CONSUMPTION I DON'T AS FAR AS THE STATUTE ON THE LOWER POTENCY HEMP EDIBLES IS FAIRLY CLEAR THAT THAT THAT WOULD NOT BE IMPACTED THAT THAT IS EXPLICITLY BY STATUTE FOR ONSITE FOR ONSITE CONSUMPTION ACTUALLY IT'S LIMITED TO PLACES WITH A LIQUOR LICENSE SO A BREWERY LIKE A RESTAURANT. GOT IT. OKAY. SOME OTHER BUSINESSES THAT DO NOT HOLD A LIQUOR LICENSE ARE NOT ELIGIBLE TO TO PERMIT ONSITE CONSUMPTION OF THE HEMP EDIBLE PRODUCTS. AS FAR AS YOU DID RAISE THE ISSUE OF RESTAURANTS THAT MAY SELL THOSE PRODUCTS TO TO GO TO BE CONSUMED OFF SITE THAT I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK INTO.  OKAY. THANK YOU.  THAT'S MARY NELSON.  THANK YOU. MAYOR, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION ON THESE, THEY CAN CURRENTLY BE SOLD AT A GROCERY STORE BUT YOU CAN'T BUY EVEN THREE TWO BEER AT A GROCERY STORE IS RIGHT.  MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER NELSON YOU CAN BUY THREE TWO BEER AT A GROCERY STORE. IT'S ALL THE OTHER KINDS OF BEER THAT YOU CANNOT BUY A GROCERY STORE. OKAY. SO THEN TO CLARIFY YOU CAN SELL THESE AT A PLACE THAT YOU COULD YOU COULD SELL THREE TO BEER OR LOWER POTENCY BEER. ARE THERE ANY ARE THERE ANY DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE ALCOHOL REGULATION AND THIS HARMFUL REGULATION FOR LOWER PRODUCTS?  I MEAN I WOULD SAY THE PRIMARY . MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER NELSON I WOULD SAY THE PRIMARY DIFFERENCE IS THAT WITH WITH LIQUOR THE CITY IS THE THE ISSUING AUTHORITY. WE HAVE A LOT MORE CONTROL OVER THE PROCESS AND WHO GETS A LICENSE WITH CANNABIS?  LICENSING IS LICENSING IS ISSUED THE STATE WE ARE MERELY REGISTERING THESE BUSINESSES SO WE DON'T HAVE AS MUCH DISCRETIONARY AUTHORITY THAT'S GOING TO FOLLOW UP IN TERMS OF DISCRETIONARY AUTHORITY CAN WE DO WE DO OUR CHECKS, YOU KNOW IN TERMS OF ARE THEY SELLING IT PEOPLE UNDER AGE AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND DO WE HAVE THAT AUTHORITY IF WE DON'T LICENSE CAN WE DO THAT OR NOT? MAYOR NELSON? NELSON YES WE CAN. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE CITY'S SORT OF PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITIES IS TO CONDUCT AGE VERIFICATION CHECKS ANNUALLY.  ONE OF THE OTHER ONE OF THE OTHER TWO ENFORCEMENT ITEMS THAT THE STATUTE DOES CALL OUT IS THAT THE CITY CONDUCT LIKE A PRELIMINARY INSPECTION BEFORE THE RETAIL BUSINESS OPENS.  COUNCILMEMBER MOMENT SO THEN JUST TWO QUESTIONS HERE.  SO I JUST WANT TO BE SURE I'M CLEAR. SO IS THIS THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY ARE RETAILERS SELLING THIS STUFF RIGHT NOW? JUST SO I'M CLEAR OR.  MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN YES. SO THESE HEMP HEMP PRODUCTS HAVE BEEN ON THE MARKET FOR APPROXIMATELY TWO YEARS. THEY WERE LEGALIZED BY THE LEGISLATURE WHEN KIND OF A SURPRISE WHEN THAT HAPPENED THAT THEY HAD LEGALIZED THESE LOWER HEMP PRODUCTS. I BELIEVE A YEAR WENT BY BEFORE THEY REQUIRED TO BE REGISTERED WITH THE CITY EFFECTIVELY THEY WERE INITIALLY UNDER THE MINNESOTA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH. THEY ARE NOW MOVING VERY SOON, I BELIEVE TO TO THE OFFICE OF CANNABIS MANAGEMENT. CURRENTLY ALL THEY DO IS WHETHER YOU'RE A PRODUCER OR RETAILER OF THE LOWER POTENCY HEMP PRODUCTS CURRENTLY ALL YOU DO IS REGISTER FOR FREE WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND THEN YOU ARE THEN AND THEN YOU'RE REQUIRED ALSO ACQUIRE A CITY LICENSE.  WHEN THAT MOVES TO THE OFFICE OF CANNABIS MANAGEMENT THEY WILL ACTUALLY SUBMITTING AN APPLICATION AND AND THERE WILL BE I BELIEVE THERE WILL BE A A MORE THOROUGH APPLICATION PROCESS CONDUCTED BY THE OFFICE OF CANNABIS MANAGEMENT. SO IN IN A WAY THEY'RE KIND OF STARTING OVER THAT IN THAT TRANSITION.  SO I THINK THAT'S WHERE THIS OPPORTUNITY THE CITY SHOULD THE CITY COUNCIL BE INTERESTED TO LIMIT THESE PRODUCTS TO A 21 PLUS ESTABLISHMENT NOW WOULD BE THE TIME TO MAKE THAT POLICY CHANGE WHILE THIS PROCESS FROM DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH TO THEM AND I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR AND I THOUGHT I HEARD YOU SAY THAT'S ALREADY OUT THERE AND SO PART OF MY CONCERN MAYOR YOU KNOW WITH THIS FIRST POINT HERE IS THAT IT'S ALREADY OUT THERE AND SO THEN YOU'RE KIND OF RESTRICTING IT AND YOU'RE YOU'RE KIND OF STOPPING THAT.  I MEAN THE CAT'S ALREADY OUT OF THE BAG AND ONE ON ONE REGARD IN TERMS OF THAT.  SO IF YOU ASKED US WHAT DO WE THINK OF THIS IS MY SECONDARY QUESTION IS HAS STAFF LOOKED AT IT OR HAVE ANY CONCERNS IN TERMS OF IF WE MAKE THIS RESTRICTION TO BRING IT UP TO 21 PLUS IN TERMS OF THAT MAY IMPACT CERTAIN FOLKS I KNOW WE'VE DONE YOU KNOW, EQUITY INCLUSION REVIEW ON A NUMBER OF POLICIES. HAS ANY OF THAT BEEN DONE HERE WITH THAT? WOULD IT WOULD IT WOULD THIS ADVERSELY IMPACT SOME OF OUR OUR RESIDENTS AT OWN BUSINESSES OR, BUSINESS OWNERS IMPORTANTLY? MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN WE DONE THAT TYPE OF ANALYSIS. I CAN THAT. CURRENTLY ONLY 17 BUSINESSES ARE LICENSED THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON TO SELL THE LOWER POTENCY HEMP EDIBLES.  ON THAT LIST YOU'D FIND A NUMBER OF LIQUOR STORES ARE OUR FEW 21 PLUS TOBACCO EXCLUSIVE TOBACCO RETAILERS THEN OF A REALLY INTERESTING VARIETY OF OTHER BUSINESSES INCLUDING LIKE A MASSAGE SALON GNC THAT THOSE REALLY ARE SOLD IN A VARIETY OF RETAIL ESTABLISHMENTS TODAY.  THANKS FOR THAT FOR THAT. IF I COULD JUST JUMP.  SO IN THOSE 17 ESTABLISHMENTS YOU MENTIONED THAT IT'S BEEN AROUND FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS. YOU MENTIONED POOR COMPLIANCE AND THE AGE VERIFICATION CHECKS IN MINNEAPOLIS.  I'M ASSUMING WE DO THOSE HERE IN BLOOMINGTON.  DO WE HAVE ANY INFORMATION ABOUT HOW THE THE COMPLIANCE CHECKS ARE GOING HERE IN BLOOMINGTON? MAYOR WE HAVE NOT YET BEEN DOING AGE VERIFICATION. AGE COMPLIANCE VERIFICATION CHECKS THE LOWER POTENCY HEMP EDIBLES THAT WAS PROPOSED TO BEGIN NEXT YEAR WHEN THE OTHER CANNABIS RETAIL BUSINESSES JOINED THE WE CURRENTLY DO OR I SHOULD SAY THE POLICEMEN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN PARTNERSHIP WITH LICENSING DOES THE AGE VERIFICATION CHECKS ALL LIQUOR AND TOBACCO LICENSE HOLDERS. OKAY INTERESTING.  COUNCILMEMBER AND THEN COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO COUNCILMEMBER THANK YOU MAYOR. I GUESS I'M INTERESTED HOW THE OCM OFFICE OF CANNABIS MANAGEMENT IS PROCEEDING BECAUSE WHEN I SAW THEM AT THE LEAGUE OF MINNESOTA CITIES THEY PRESENTED IT AS A WHOLE LOT OF WE DON'T KNOW WE'RE NOT READY, WE'RE NOT SURE AND I'M NERVOUS TO LIKE PROVIDE FEEDBACK AND THEN WHEN THEY COME BACK AND SAY OH WELL THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO AND IT'S COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WE HAVE ABOUT OR DECIDED ON. MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER THAT THAT IS A CONCERN THAT THIS IDEA OF LIMITING THESE PRODUCTS TO 21 PLUS ESTABLISHMENTS REALLY JUST REARED ITS HEAD THROUGH THE OFFICE OF CANNABIS MANAGEMENT'S MODEL ORDINANCE THAT THEY PROVIDED.  HENNEPIN COUNTY PUBLIC HEALTH ALSO INCLUDED THE IDEA OF SUCH A POLICY IN ONE OF THEIR UPDATES. I DON'T KNOW OTHER JURISDICTIONS ARE PURSUING THAT BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID IT'S VERY RELATIVELY NEW INFORMATION COMPARED TO THE OVERALL STATUTE.  COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO OF THE OTHER 17 I THINK FROM YOUR YOU'RE SORRY PROTOCOL A NICE TO SEE YOU AGAIN BUT IN ADDITION OF THE 17 THAT ARE LICENSED HOW MANY OF THEM WOULD SHOULD WE SHOULD RAISE THE REQUIREMENT TO 21 PLUS EXCLUSIVES? HOW MANY WOULD LOSE THEIR LICENSE OR NOT BE ELIGIBLE FOR RENEWAL OF THE 17?  MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION I TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT WITH WITH SOME FURTHER ANALYSIS CAN SAY A HANDFUL A HANDFUL OF THEM WOULD THERE ARE TOBACCO THERE ARE SEVERAL GAS ON THAT LIST THAT ARE TOBACCO RETAILERS THEY HAVE THE LOWER POTENCY HEMP EDIBLES . THEY WOULD POTENTIALLY NOT BE ELIGIBLE TO CONTINUE THAT LICENSE ONCE IT MOVES TO THE OFFICE OF CANNABIS MANAGEMENT . RIGHT. OKAY. I SUSPECTED I KNEW I RECALL SPECIFICALLY THAT THE FOLKS AT BOBBY AND STEVE'S WERE VERY INTERESTED IN SELLING THIS LAST WHEN THEY CAME AROUND SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING OF . YEAH. IF YOU COULD LET US THE APPROXIMATE NUMBER THAT WOULD NO LONGER BE ELIGIBLE EVERY GREAT I'M YOU KNOW I AM OF THE I MY MY MY POLICY ON THIS HAS BEEN ALL ALONG THAT WE SHOULD GET CONSISTENT ON THIS STUFF AND SO LIKE YOU KNOW IN TERMS OF FEEDBACK TO STAFF THE THE IF IF WE WANT TO REGULATE LOWER POTENCY STUFF LIKE I CAN GO TO CUB AND GET YOU KNOW AND A BEER OR THREE TO BEER BUT I CAN'T GO TO I CAN'T GET YOU KNOW 5% BEER THERE. RIGHT. IF WE WANT TO DO THAT THEN MAYBE LOW POTENCY EDIBLES BELONG IN THAT CATEGORY AND WE DO THAT ALL VERY UNIFORMLY AND THEN WE DEAL WITH HIGH POTENCY STUFF VERY UNIFORMLY AS WELL WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, THE LIQUOR STORES, ETC.. NOW THE CHALLENGE I HAVE THERE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, TOBACCO FALLS INTO THIS NEBULOUS CATEGORY IN THE SENSE THAT LIKE I WOULD ARGUE IT'S HIGH POTENCY. I WOULD ALSO ARGUE CAFFEINE IS HIGH POTENCY BUT I WON'T GO ON THAT RIGHT NOW. BUT BUT THERE KNOW THERE'S HEALTH THERE'S HEALTH IMPLICATIONS AND IN ALL CASES AND THOSE THINGS RIGHT SO.  SO THE I GUESS FROM MY PERSPECTIVE IF WE SAY THAT WE WANT TO MOVE EVERYTHING INTO THIS CATEGORY, WE PUT OURSELVES IN A BIT OF A DISADVANTAGE BECAUSE WE'RE WE'RE LETTING YOU KNOW THE RETAIL ESTABLISHMENTS SELL THE THREE TO BEER AND THE LOWER QUALITY YOU KNOW THE LOWER POTENCY THREE TO STUFF BUT NOT THE HEMP PRODUCTS AND THAT'S THAT FEELS A LITTLE OUT OF BALANCE OR IT WOULD BE HARD FOR ME TO JUSTIFY I GUESS IS WHAT I'M SAYING LIKE WHY WE DID ONE AND NOT THE OTHER.  SO MY INCLINATION IS TO TO LEAVE THIS WHERE IT IS ALTHOUGH WE COULD CERTAINLY IT SOUNDS LIKE LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT CAN DO IT. IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO THAT LICENSING REGARDLESS AND ALSO WE COULD WE COULD MODIFY THE DISTANCES AND GET SOME UNIFORMITY THERE TOO. BUT I AM SUPER I DON'T THINK UNLESS WE COME UNLESS WE GET INFORMATION THAT SAYS WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A YEAR AND WE ARE REALLY BAD AT ENFORCEMENT I'M NOT INCLINED TO MOVE ON THIS TO THE NUMBER OF MYSELF AND THAT'S THE FEEDBACK THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR TO OFFER AND I WOULD HAVE TO AGREE WITH YOU. COUNCILMEMBER AND YOU COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN AS WELL THE FACT THAT IT'S IN PLACE NOW AND I WOULD HATE TO REPEAL IT AND UNLESS AND UNTIL I SEE THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH THIS. YES IT'S BASICALLY THREE TO BEER NOW I MEAN THE ISSUE COULD BE THE THREE TWO BEER COULD BECOME A THING OF THE PAST AND THEN WHAT DO WE DO? HOW DO WE, YOU KNOW, CHARACTERIZE THAT IN OUR MINDS? BUT I THINK FOR THE LOWER POTENCY HEMP EDIBLES I THINK IT MAKES SENSE TO TO CONTINUE ROUTE THAT WE WERE ON NOW WITH THE EXPECTATION THAT WE'RE EVENTUALLY GOING TO DO THE THE COMPLIANCE CHECKS LIKE WE DO WITH WITH TOBACCO AND WITH ALCOHOL AS WELL AND MAYOR AND COUNCIL LIKE NOW THE LAST WORD ON THAT SO THESE PRODUCTS CURRENTLY TODAY AND IN STATUTE WHEN THEY MOVE TO OFFICE OF CANNABIS MANAGEMENT ARE LOWER POTENCY HEMP PRODUCTS THAT ARE SOLD BY A GROCERY STORE OR OTHER KIND OF NON 21 PLUS RETAILER THE THOSE PRODUCTS ARE REQUIRED THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO BE OUT ON SHELVES WHERE THEY CAN SORT OF YOU KNOW YOU CAN'T CUSTOMERS CAN'T BROWSE THEM THEMSELVES.  THEY NEED TO BE IN DISPLAY CASES BEHIND A COUNTER THAT'S MUCH LIKE TOBACCO AND THAT AND THAT WILL CONTINUE.  YEAH OKAY. I CAN'T REMEMBER NELSON IT WANT TO SAY I AGREE WITH THAT AND UNTIL THAT CHANGES AND WE'LL DEAL WITH IT THEN IF THREE TREATY GOES AWAY AND COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS HAS GONE AWAY TO YOU CAN'T FIND IT ANYWHERE ANYMORE. CAN WE BE A SANCTUARY CITY,  NOT SELL ANY WEED AT ALL OR ANY PRODUCTS JUST TO TYPE I MEAN NO, NO.  OKAY. I MEAN WE CAN WE COULD TRY WE COULD TRY TO YEAH.  ALL RIGHT. ARE WE GOOD ON THE LOWER POTENCY HEMP EDIBLE WITH WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE MAJORITY GOOD WITH THE LOWER POTENCY HEMP. ALL RIGHT, ONWARD. AND THEN I DO WANT TO I ALSO THIS IS PROBABLY A GOOD PLACE TO CLARIFY THAT. SO THE THE LICENSE CAPS THAT WE WILL TALK ABOUT IN A COUPLE OF MINUTES WOULD NOT APPLY TO LOWER POTENCY HEMP EDIBLE THOSE APPLY TO CANNABIS RETAILER WHICH WE WOULD EXPECT TO REALLY BE SIMILAR TO A DISPENSARY THAT YOU MIGHT FIND IN ANOTHER STATE. IT'S AN IT'S THE PARALLEL OF A LIQUOR STORE.  IT'S AN EXCLUSIVE CANVAS DISPENSARY BUSINESS. THAT'S WE TALKING ABOUT FOR MUCH OF THE REST OF THIS PRESENTATION.  SO AT THE JUNE PRESENTATION COUNCIL BUFFERS.  I JUST WANT TO QUICKLY REVISIT A REVISED STAFF RECOMMENDATION THAT I THINK PLAYS OFF OF WHAT WE JUST HEARD FROM FROM THE COUNCIL. SO STATE STATUTE ALLOWS CITIES TO ADD REQUIREMENTS FOR MINIMUM BUFFER DISTANCES FROM SCHOOLS, DAYCARES, RESIDENTIAL TREATMENT FACILITIES AND ATTRACTIONS WITHIN PUBLIC PARK THAT ARE REGULARLY USED BY MINORS INCLUDING A PLAYGROUND OR ATHLETIC FIELD. AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THEY WROTE INTO THE STATE STATUTE.  PREVIOUS POLICY DIRECTION HAS BEEN TO IMPLEMENT THE BUFFER REQUIREMENTS FOR SCHOOLS,  RESIDENTIAL TREATMENT FACILITIES AND THE PARK ATTRACTIONS.  THE PLANNING COMMISSION YOU SEE HERE ON THIS SLIDE ARE THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED UNDER STATUTE AND THEN SOME OF THE EXISTING BUFFERS THAT ARE IN PLACE FOR OTHER ITEMS TODAY THE COUNCIL PREVIOUSLY AT A STUDY ITEM LAST YEAR PROVIDED POLICY DIRECTION THAT THEY WERE INTERESTED IN SEEING OR THAT YOU ALL WERE INTERESTED IN SEEING THE BUFFER FOR THE LOWER POTENCY HEMP PRODUCTS TO BE REDUCED TO 300 FEET TO BE IN LINE WITH THAT LIQUOR STORES PREVIOUS POLICY DIRECTION OR THE I'M SORRY THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED A 300 FOOT BUFFER DISTANCE CONSISTENT REGULATION FOR LIQUOR STORES WHILE THE ADVISORY BOARD OF HEALTH RECOMMENDED DISTANCES CLOSER TO THE MAXIMUM UNDER STATUTE.  THE COUNCIL'S DISCUSSION WHILE BRIEF THAT THERE WAS A CONSENSUS THERE WAS CONSENSUS AROUND 300 FEET. THE ADVISORY BOARD OF HEALTH ALSO RECOMMENDED HUNDRED FEET FOR THE HEMP LICENSES ISSUED TO OFF SALE STORES TO GET AT THAT DESIRE FOR CONSISTENCY REAL QUICKLY I JUST WANTED TO GO OVER OVER THE MAPS WITH THE ADDITIONAL TWO MONTHS TO TO HAVE TIME TO TO STUDY THIS IN DEPTH.  I REALLY PORED OVER THESE MAPS AND I'M SURE YOU ALL SPENT ALL WEEKEND LOOKING AT THEM AS WELL.  SO REALLY QUICKLY WHEN YOU WHEN YOU OPEN UP THE BASE MAP YOU SEE ZONING DISTRICTS WITH RETAIL PERMITTED THESE ARE ALL THE DISTRICTS IN THE CITY IN COLOR THERE WHERE A RETAIL CANNABIS COULD BE A LAYERED ON TOP OF THAT ARE THE SCHOOL BUFFERS SHOWN AT 300 500 AND A THOUSAND FEET. ZOOMING IN AND PANNING AROUND THIS MAP THERE ARE A COUPLE THE REALLY JUST A COUPLE AREAS WHERE YOU WHERE YOU SEE OVERLAP.  SO ONE OF NOTE AS THE AREA AROUND LYNDALE THE 98TH STREET CORRIDOR WHERE YOU HAVE KENNEDY AND THE NATIVITY OF MARY SCHOOL ON LEFT,  KENNEDY ON THE RIGHT. SO THAT SHOWS WHAT THE WHAT THE IMPACTS OF OF THOSE VARIOUS BUFFER DISTANCES BE ON THE THE ABILITY OF THESE RETAIL PROPERTIES TO ACQUIRE TO OBTAIN A CANNABIS RETAIL LICENSE LICENSE.  AND THE FINDING HERE IS BASICALLY THAT, YOU KNOW THAT NO, NONE OF THESE DISTANCES ARE THAT GREAT WHEN TALKING ABOUT 300 FEET, 500 FEET, A THOUSAND FEET I WOULD SAY THAT'S EFFECTIVELY HALF A BLOCK A BLOCK ABOUT A BLOCK AND A HALF WITH A THOUSAND FEET. THE IMPACTS ON THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES AROUND CITY ARE GREATER. YOU CAN SEE CLEARLY THEY'RE AT LYNDALE AND 98 THERE WOULD BE A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT ZONE WHERE RETAIL CANNABIS COULD NOT GO .  LOOKING AT PARKS THERE'S ACTUALLY EVEN LESS OVERLAP AROUND THE CITY CITY IN A CITY AS LARGE AS BLOOMINGTON'S GEOGRAPHY AND WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT RETAIL DISTRICTS WE HAVE THROUGHOUT THE CITY.  IT WAS REALLY SURPRISING TO SEE SO LITTLE OVERLAP BETWEEN THESE THREE AND 500 FOOT BUFFERS AROUND OUR PARK AND OUR OUR RETAIL DISTRICTS. I THOUGHT WHILE THE COUNCIL ALREADY HAD THIS DISCUSSION BACK IN JUNE I THOUGHT IT WAS NOTABLE TO LOOK AT THE TWO AREAS WHERE THERE IS AN OVERLAP AND JUST DO KIND OF A GUT CHECK WITH THE COUNCIL. IS IT WORTH THE QUESTION I WOULD PUT BEFORE YOU IS IS IT WORTH WRITING INTO OUR CODE TO HAVE THE BUFFER OR THE BUFFER AROUND THESE PARK AMENITIES WHEN WHAT YOU SEE IN FRONT OF YOU THERE ARE THOSE TWO SITES AROUND FINLAYSON PARK NEAR AMERICAN AND NICOLLET AND AT THE RETAIL AREA KIND OF ADJACENT TO DRED SCOTT PARK THERE.  THAT IS THE IMPACT OF WHAT A WHAT A BUFFER POLICY AROUND PARKS WOULD BE. IT WOULD PREVENT CANNABIS IN ESSENTIALLY IN THESE TWO LOCATIONS CITYWIDE.  SO THE QUESTION I WOULD PUT TO THE COUNCIL IS IS IT WORTH HAVING THAT POLICY ON THE BOOKS TO TO HAVE THAT BUFFER COUNCIL QUESTIONS THOUGHTS ON THIS? I MEAN I SAY I MEAN MR. BULLARD SAID THAT THESE WHETHER IT'S 300, 500 OR 1000 FEET, IT'S NOT THAT BIG OF A DISTANCE AND I THINK THE SECOND PART OF THAT IS THAT IT'S A VERY ARBITRARY DISTANCE AND I GUESS THE THE QUESTION TO ASK IS DOES IT NECESSARILY MAKE A DIFFERENCE? I MEAN IS IT IS THERE AN IMPACT THERE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER AND?  WHAT IS THE RIGHT WHAT IS THE RIGHT DISTANCE? COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SO GUESS WHAT I'M HEARING IS NO BUFFER AT ALL, RIGHT? I MEAN JUST ZERO. YOU CAN JUST. NO BUFFER FOR ANYTHING. IS THAT WHAT WE'RE SAYING? MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER. COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN NO, I'M JUST NOW CERTAINLY ARE NOT REQUIRED TO IMPLEMENT BUFFERS BUT THAT NO THAT'S NOT WHAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING HERE IS BASICALLY JUST AS WE ARRIVE AT A FINAL ORDINANCE LANGUAGE JUST DOING A CHECK IN WITH THE COUNCIL TO SEE IS IT WORTHWHILE TO HAVE A BUFFER AROUND THESE PARK AMENITIES WHEN THE REAL WORLD IMPACTS OF THAT POLICY ARE EXTREMELY LIMITED IN THESE TOO I OBVIOUSLY HEARD THAT WRONG SO WHAT I HEARD WAS JUST NO BUFFER AT ALL. ANYTHING ALL.  SO I MEAN I KNOW I AM IN THE MINORITY I MEAN I THINK A THOUSAND BE GREAT ON EVERYTHING BUT YOU KNOW GIVEN WHAT YOU JUST SAID I AM I AM TEMPTED. I'M WONDERING, YOU KNOW, IF STAFF REALLY BELIEVES THAT THERE IS NO IMPACT AT ALL THEN THE SAME CASE COULD BE MADE REALLY, REALLY ALL OF THE DIFFERENT AREAS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. SO AND COUNCILMEMBER I WANT TO BE CLEAR I DON'T THINK THE STAFF SAID THERE WOULD BE NO DIFFERENCE AT ALL THAT I DON'T THINK THAT WAS A STAFF MESSAGE AND I WAS THROWING IT OUT THERE AS ALMOST A A PROVOCATION STATEMENT TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE WANT TO BE ON THIS AND WHAT REALLY MAKES SENSE. I MEAN DOES 300 FEET MAKES SENSE? DOES A THOUSAND FEET MAKE SENSE? COUNCILMEMBER NELSON, JUST A QUICK QUESTION ON THIS CHART THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE THIS B-2 DISTRICT JUST TO THE NORTH OF THAT IS A SCHOOL A PRIVATE SCHOOL THAT ALSO HAS A PLAYGROUND THAT ALLOW THE COMMUNITY TO USE. AND SO HOW DOES THAT THE SCHOOL AND THAT PLAYGROUND IMPACT WHAT CAN HAPPEN IN THIS B-2 DISTRICT THERE? MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER NELSON, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP. I NEGLECTED TO MENTION THERE YOU CAN SEE THE GRAY AT THE TOP OF THE MAP THERE ON THE RIGHT THERE IS THE LUTHERAN SCHOOL THERE. I TURNED OFF THE SCHOOL BUFFERS IN THIS MAP YOU SEE HERE SO YOU'RE NOT SEEING THE BUBBLE AROUND THE SCHOOL AS WELL BUT ACTUALLY THAT WITH A BUFFER AROUND THE SCHOOL THAT NORTH THAT RETAIL PROPERTY NORTH OF OLD CHICOPEE ROAD WOULD BE COVERED BY THE SCHOOL BUFFER SHOULD SHOULD THE CITY COUNCIL CHOOSE TO IMPLEMENT A BUFFER AROUND SCHOOLS THAT NORTHERN RETAIL PROPERTY IS EFFECTIVELY RULED OUT CANNABIS RETAIL IT WOULD BE THE THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH EAST CORNER OF BLOOMINGTON FERRY AND OLD CHALK B THAT WOULD BE BASICALLY CAUGHT UP BY THE THE PARK BUFFER ONLY.  OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION. SO WE'RE PRETTY MUCH DOWN TO ONE LOCATION IF YOU ADD THAT IN THERE'S THAT ACCURATE AND SEGMENTATION THAT IS FOR RETAIL SALES OF CANNABIS. SO NEW PIZZA PLACE THE EXISTING ZEKE'S BURGER PLACE THERE IF THEY WANTED TO SELL THC DRINK ON PREMISE THAT'S TOTALLY SEPARATE AS I ACCURATE MAYOR. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON THAT IS CORRECT WE'RE NOT PROPOSING A BUFFER DISTANCE FOR FOR THOSE LIQUOR LICENSE HOLDERS THAT HAVE ON PREMISE CONSUMPTION BECAUSE THAT THAT CAUSE PROBLEMS ALL OVER THE PLACE AND THAT MAY BE AN OPPORTUNE TIME TO GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE WHERE WE HAD IDENTIFIED THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION WHERE WE LEFT OFF A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO COUNCIL HAD KIND OF CIRCLED AROUND 300 FEET WITH THIS NEW INFORMATION AND ALSO THE THE BENEFIT OF TWO MONTHS PASSING WE'VE BEEN TO SEE WHAT SOME OF OUR PEER CITIES ARE DOING AS WELL. OUR NEIGHBORS TO THE NORTH, BOTH RICHFIELD AND MINNEAPOLIS ARE PLANNING TO DO PLANNING TO IMPLEMENT A BUFFER OF 300 I'M SORRY I MISSPOKE 500 FEET AROUND SCHOOLS. SO THIS REVISED STAFF RECOMMENDATION HERE IS BASED ON THE COUNCIL'S PREVIOUS CONVERSATION AS WELL AS WHAT SOME OF OUR PEER CITIES ARE DOING. SO WE WOULD RECOMMEND 500 FEET AROUND SCHOOLS RESIDENTIAL TREATMENT FACILITIES FOR SURE THE PARK AMENITIES SHOULD COUNCIL CHOOSE TO INCLUDE THAT AND THEN FOR THE HEMP RETAIL WOULD GO A 300 FEET AND LOOK TO WRITE IN SOME KIND OF CLAUSE INTO THE ORDINANCE THAT OUR EXISTING LIQUOR STORES ARE EXISTING 21 PLUS EXCLUSIVE TOBACCO STORE LOCATIONS WOULD BE ABLE TO OBTAIN A LICENSE BECAUSE THOSE JUST SEEM LIKE APPROPRIATE LOCATIONS FOR THIS FOR THE HEMP EDIBLE PRODUCTS TO BE SOLD. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON IF TAKE A VERY QUICK CLARIFICATION THERE IS A LIQUOR STORE IN THAT B TWO ZONING DISTRICT. WOULD THEY BE ABLE TO TRANSFER LICENSE IF THEY SOLD THE BUSINESS IF HAS EXISTING LIQUOR STORES AND THEY SOLD THAT BUSINESS, WOULD THAT LICENSE BE ABLE TO TRANSFER WITH THEM AS MAYOR? COUNCILMAN NELSON LIKE LICENSES WHETHER LIQUOR TOBACCO CANNOT BE IT'S ALWAYS A NEW APPLICATION I THINK WE WOULD LOOK TO DO IN THE LANGUAGE THAT WE WRITE FOR LIQUOR STORES TO PRESERVE THEIR ABILITY TO THE HEMP PRODUCTS SHOULD THERE BE A CHANGE IN OWNERSHIP BECAUSE LIKE I SAID IT IT JUST MAKES SENSE FOR FOR THE HEMP FOR LOWER POTENCY HEMP PRODUCTS TO BE ABLE TO BE SOLD IN LIQUOR STORES THAT'S A A 21 PLUS ENVIRONMENT THAT WE HOPE DOES A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF CARTING THROUGH. FOR SOME ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS ON THIS ARE COUNCILMEMBER CARTER AND THEN COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER THANK YOU MAYOR.  SO I GUESS I WOULD JUST I WOULD SAY THAT THE ADVISORY BOARD OF HEALTH LETTER WAS VERY PERSUASIVE TO ME AND I ACTUALLY WOULD LOVE FOR US TO GO WITH THEIR RECOMMENDATION AND LOOKING AT THE RETAIL ZONING DISTRICTS SCHOOL BUFFERS IF WE WERE TO GO UP TO A THOUSAND FEET IT DOESN'T.  IT'S ANOTHER ONE WHERE IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT HAS AN ADDITIONAL SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON BUSINESSES BUT COULD MAKE A PRETTY BIG DIFFERENCE IN TERMS OF LIKE THE ABILITY OF KIDS TO BE ABLE TO SEE THOSE BUSINESSES.  AND AGAIN I KNOW WE HAVE SIGNED ORDINANCES AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WILL PROBABLY BE REGULATING WHAT THEY CAN PUT ON THE OUTSIDE OF THEIR BUILDING BUT YEAH SO I GUESS THE THE PUBLIC HEALTH PERSON TO ME IS GOING TO ALIGN WITH THE ADVISORY BOARD OF HEALTH AND AND GO WITH THEIR RECOMMENDATION.  COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THANK YOU MAYOR.  MR. HAKEEM MOVE BACK TO THE THE ONE WHERE YOU HAD THEM SIDE BY SIDE THE THE ONES THAT WE ALL CAME UP WITH BACK IN JUNE I THINK IT WAS.  OKAY. THANKS SO SO.  RIGHT. OKAY. SO THIS IS THE SO THEY ARE RIGHT THEY ARE RECOMMENDING TO COUNCILMEMBER CARTER'S POINT THEY'RE RECOMMENDING A THOUSAND FEET FOR CANNABIS FOR SCHOOLS 500 FEET RESIDENT RESIDENTIAL TREATMENT FACILITY IS 300 FEET FOR PARK ATTRACTIONS AND AND 300 FEET FOR THE HEMP LICENSES THAT WE ALREADY HAVE THE DIFFERENCE WHAT YOU HAD ON THE RECOMMENDATION PAGE AND THIS PAGE IS ONLY IN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 4000 FEET AND 500 FEET. DO I HAVE THAT RIGHT? COUNCILMAN DALLESSANDRO IS CORRECT. OKAY. AND EVERYTHING ON THE FOR THE LOWER POTENCY PRODUCTS WERE ALREADY IN ALIGNMENT OR WE WOULD BE IF WE PASSED THIS CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.  THE COUNCIL HAD PREVIOUSLY GIVEN DIRECTION THAT THEY WERE INTERESTED IN SEEING THE LOWER POTENCY HEMP EDIBLE GO FROM 500 DOWN TO 300. RIGHT AND ENSURE THAT THE INSISTENCE OF HEALTH IS OKAY WITH THAT. OKAY. VERY GOOD YEAH I MY OPINION I GUESS, MR. MAYOR, IS THAT FOR ME THE DIFFERENCE YOU KNOW BETWEEN 501,000 FEET IS TWO TO. COUNCILMEMBER CARR'S POINT IS NOT SO MUCH WHETHER OR NOT WILL ELIMINATE THE ABILITY FOR PEOPLE TO SELL IT AS MUCH AS IT'S THE ABILITY FOR FOLKS TO SEE IT AS THEY GO BY AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. SO YOU KNOW I'M THINKING ABOUT FOR EXAMPLE IN THE IN THE RECOMMENDATION THEY THE EXAMPLE THAT WAS GIVEN AT 98TH STREET, YOU KNOW THE THE ONE TOBACCO RETAILER THAT WE HAVE THERE IS ALREADY NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING WITH THIS REGARDLESS OF HOW MANY FEET GIVE IT BECAUSE THE ONLY WAY WE WOULD BE ABLE TO GIVE THEM ABILITY IN THEIR LOCATION TO SELL CANNABIS OR FOR THAT MATTER LOW HEMP PRODUCTS IS IF THEY IF WE SAID NO BUFFER AT ALL BECAUSE OF WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED. SO YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY THAT TOBACCO RETAILER IS NOT GOING TO BE VERY HAPPY REGARDLESS WHAT WE DECIDE TODAY. BUT YOU KNOW, IT IT IT IS A IT'S SO THE YOU KNOW IS FESTIVAL GOING TO SELL YOU KNOW WHICH IS WHAT'S RIGHT THERE RIGHT. FESTIVAL IS WE WOULD BE LIMITING FESTIVAL FROM BEING ABLE TO SELL LIKE IN THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION AND JUST LOOKING AT THAT AND SAYING FESTIVAL WOULD OR WOULDN'T DEPENDING ON WHETHER WE SAID 500 OR A THOUSAND LIKE IN THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION.  BUT I DON'T I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WOULD DO THAT ANYWAY BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A LICENSE TO SELL 21 AND OVER PRODUCTS ANYHOW SO WOULD THEY COME AND ASK FOR ONE? SO YOU KNOW THIS IS THE KIND OF THING I, I JUST DON'T KNOW ENOUGH TO SAY LIKE THAT'S A LIMITING FACTOR. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER WITH A GOOD QUESTION. SO I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CANNABIS BUSINESS. YEP. NOT THE LOW YEP SAME BUT I WOULD FESTIVAL BE ABLE TO BE LIKE I CAN LIKE A CANNABIS NO I MEAN THAT'S WHAT I JUST SAID IF THEY DON'T HAVE A LICENSE TO SELL 21 PLUS PRODUCTS TODAY COULD THEY GET A LICENSE TO SELL THIS CANNABIS PRODUCTS AND IF THEY DID WOULD THEY WANT TO? I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER THAT QUESTION. I'M JUST SUGGESTING THAT WE WOULD BE PREEMPTIVELY FORCING THEM NOT TO. YEAH, WELL AND I GUESS FOR ME I WOULD I WOULD SAY IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE ADVISORY BOARD OF RIGHT I WOULD MAKE THIS DECISION KNOWING ASSUMING THAT EVEN IF THEY WANTED TO THEN THEY COULDN'T. RIGHT THAT'S TRUE. YEAH THAT'S TRUE. YEAH.  SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE IMPACT. MY POINT IS THAT BETWEEN 501,000 FEET I'M LOOKING AT A SPECIFIC BUSINESS AND I'M GOING I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S IMPACT TO THEM ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. SO IT'S HARD FOR ME TO SAY I CARE ABOUT 500 FEET VERSUS ABOUT 100,000 FEET. I JUST LIKE US TO BE CONSISTENT HERE AND THE 500 FEET FELT MORE COMFORTABLE FOR ME BECAUSE IT WAS MORE IN ALIGNMENT WITH WHAT WE DO FOR LIQUOR STORES ALREADY. AND SO I WAS KIND OF LOOKING FOR CONSISTENT HIGH POTENCY TO HIGH POTENCY VERSUS LOW POTENCY TO LOW POTENCY SO 300 FOR LOW POTENCY 500 HIGH POTENCY FEELS BETTER TO ME BUT I I'M NOT GOING TO SAY NO TO A THOUSAND BECAUSE I JUST CAN'T TELL THE DIFFERENCE IN MY LIKE IN WHAT THE TRUE IMPACT IS HERE. THANKS. LET'S REMEMBER LEMON AND SEE IF WE CAN GET TO CONSENSUS ON THIS AND MOVE THIS ALONG SOMEWHERE. WE COULD ALWAYS INCREASE OR LOWER THIS AT ANY POINT IN TIME, RIGHT? I MEAN THIS IS NOT A SANDSTONE THING SO I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN IT SOUNDED LIKE WERE AT 500 YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY I WANT TO SEE A THOUSAND BUT YOU KNOW I MEAN I CAN YOU KNOW, WE CAN MOVE ON. I DON'T WANT TO SPEND ALL NIGHT TALKING ABOUT 500,000 FEET. COME ON. SO I MEAN UNLESS THERE'S YOU KNOW ENOUGH TO GET US TO A THOUSAND SO YOU KNOW I MEAN AND I KNOW, I MIGHT HAVE THOUSAND SO AND ONCE AGAIN I'M LOOKING AT THE TREND GOING QUICK, YOU COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS. I MEAN I JUST WHEN ASK A QUESTION DO ANY OF YOU HUNT YOU KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A THOUSAND FEET AND 500 FEET, RIGHT? IT IS A BIG DISTANCE YOU MIGHT NOT MAKE ANY SENSE FOR US TO WALK FROM ONE BLOCK TO THE NEXT. BUT IF ACTUALLY LOOK UP 500 FEET WILL BE ABOUT 150 YARDS OR 160 PLUS YARDS. RIGHT. YOU TAKE A SHOT OF THAT. THIS IS BASICALLY YOU ADD A COUPLE OF HUNDRED YARDS TO AND IT BECOMES A LITTLE MORE CHALLENGING. THE SAME THING IS YOU'D YOU'RE LOOKING AT A SIGN OR ON THE STORE A KID COMING OUT OF THE I WAS A KID AND I USED TO SMOKE POT AT MIDNIGHT AND DON'T LIKE IT. IT WASN'T A GOOD THING FOR ME AND I DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD FOR ANY YOUTH OUT THERE. SO IF THIS IS GOING TO STAY WHICH WE DON'T, WE CAN'T CONTROL IT. IT CAME FROM THE STATE AT THOUSAND FEET WILL BE THE MINIMUM THAT I WOULD CONSIDER MYSELF.  I MEAN JUST FROM THE HEALTH POINT OF VIEW IT WAS MY ARGUING BEFORE WHEN WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION BACK IN THE SPRING THAT AS IT IS WE HAVE A LOT OF CHALLENGES WITH KIDS ADDICTIONS, HIGH SCHOOL SO WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT GETTING RID OF IT.  SO IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AT LEAST TRY TO DO THE BEST THAT WE CAN TO KEEP IT AS FAR AS POSSIBLE FROM THE CHILDREN THAT'S ALL I NEED TO SAY.  OKAY. SO THE TWO POSSIBILITIES BASED ON THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS 500 FEET WITH SCHOOLS AND THEN THE 300 FEET FOR THE RESIDENTIAL AND THE PARK ATTRACTIONS AND THE ADVISORY BOARD OF HEALTH IS 1000 FEET, 500 FEET AND 300 FEET. JUST A NODDING SHOW OF YOU KNOW, SHOW OF HANDS HERE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER WHICH WHAT DIRECTION WE LIKE TO GO ON THIS BECAUSE YEAH WE COULD COULD KIND OF GO BACK AND FORTH I THINK ALL NIGHT IN TERMS OF THIS.  SO I KNOW AT LEAST ONE 1000 YOU KNOW YEAH A THOUSAND. OKAY AND 500 AND SOMETHING ELSE COUNCILMEMBER JUST MATCH THE FIRST THREE JUST MAKE IT SIMPLE LET'S GO 500 OKAY SO WE DON'T HAVE CONSENSUS BUT WE SO COUNCILMEMBER CARTER THANK YOU MAYOR.  I UNDERSTAND YOU KNOW THE DESIRE OF TO JUST HAVE CONSISTENCY ESPECIALLY FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF BUSINESSES IN OUR COMMUNITY, RIGHT. JUST TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT EASIER FOR THEM BUT I MEAN DIDN'T ISN'T LICKER 300 FEET EXISTING BUFFERS ON LICENSED LIQUOR STORES IT'S LIKE WE'RE NOT GOING TO WE'RE NOT CONSIDERING 300 FEET WE'RE CONSIDERING 500 OR A THOUSAND SO WE'RE NOT GETTING TO YOU KNOW SO TO ME I THINK WE SHOULD MAKE THIS DECISION BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE.  I DON'T THINK IT NEEDS TO BE DEPENDENT ON THE 300 FOOT LIQUOR. THAT'S MY PERSONAL AND SO BECAUSE AGAIN WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET WE'RE NOT GOING THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE CONSIDERING HERE. AND SO I KIND OF FEEL LIKE IT'S EITHER 500 FEET OR 2000 AND I THINK THAT IS KIND OF THE DIRECTION WE'RE GOING HERE AND WE'RE KIND SPLIT THREE, THREE AND ONE ON THIS BUT SO COUNCILMEMBER  WERE TO SUPPOSED TO DO 750 IT'S WELL STAFF THERE'S YOUR FEEDBACK AND WHY DON'T WE WELL NOTED YEAH WELL NOTED AND AS WE BRING THIS FORWARD MAYOR I SEE WHERE IT ALL KIND OF IF YOU'D LIKE I MEAN I'M AGAIN I'M NEUTRAL ON THIS WHOLE THING I REALLY AM I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S IF WE WANT TO GIVE THEM A SPECIFIC DIRECTION IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE COUNCILMEMBER NELSON WOULDN'T DOESN'T HAVE AN OPINION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER CONSIDERING IT'S NOT CONSISTENT YOU DON'T CARE EITHER WAY EITHER WAY IT'S NOT CONSISTENT WITH CHANGE WITH OR I DON'T THINK SO. I MEAN I GUESS WE COULD GOING FORWARD BUT WE WOULDN'T GRANDFATHER RICK WE HAVE TO AGREE THAT PUTTING SOME FOLKS OF BUSINESS IF WE DIDN'T GRANDFATHER FOLKS YEAH YEAH WELL THEY WOULD BE GRANDFATHERED THOUGH RIGHT.  AND THE REASON I SAY THAT IS I JUST WANT TO BE SIMPLE FOR STAFF SOMEBODY CALLS AND I LIKE IT 2000 STAFF WAS THE ONE WHO CAME FORWARD 500 THEY CAME BACK WITH THE MIX THEY SAID 500.  THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION WAS 500. MR. MAYOR, YOU ARE AT 500? YES  I VOTED AS COUNCIL MEMBER. IT SOUNDS LIKE MR. STAFF THAT WAS THE PLANNING STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND OR THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE AND THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IT SOUNDS LIKE THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE ADVISORY BOARD OF HEALTH.  RIGHT. SO NELSON D'ALESSANDRO MUA AND BOSSIER AT 500 MY CORRECT IF NELSON CAN SAY 500 OR OKAY LET'S SAY LET'S 500 BRING THAT FORWARD AND IF WE VOTE IT DOWN WELL BRING IT BACK.  YEP, YEP. ALL RIGHT. OUR THIRD ITEM UH TONIGHT SO THE COUNCIL ALSO BRIEFLY DISCUSSED THE OPPORTUNITY TO A CAP ON THE NUMBER OF RETAIL LICENSES STATUTE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO SET A CAP TO NO FEWER THAN ONE ONE RETAIL REGISTRATION FOR EVERY THOUSAND 500 RESIDENTS FOR BLOOMINGTON AND OUR CURRENT POPULATION THAT WOULD RESULT IN SEVEN RETAIL DISPENSARY LICENSES I WANT TO AGAIN CLARIFY THAT DOES NOT IMPACT THE LOWER  HEMP EDIBLE THIS WOULD JUST BE THE FULL ON CANNABIS DISPENSARY THE CITY COUNCIL CHOOSE TO SET A CAP HIGHER THAN THE THAN THE STATUTORY OR CHOOSE NOT TO SET A CAP THE NUMBER OF LICENSES COULD ALSO BE EXPANDED AT A LATER DATE THROUGH A SUBSEQUENT SUBSEQUENT CITY CODE AMENDMENT.  SO THE COUNCIL DISCUSSED THIS FOR ABOUT A MINUTE OR TWO I THINK BACK IN JUNE BEFORE EVERYBODY SAID WELL WOULD YOU LOOK AT THE TIME SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING IT BACK FOR JUST A LITTLE MORE DISCUSSION ON THAT POINT THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND ADVISORY BOARD OF HEALTH DID NOT RECOMMEND A CAP ON THE NUMBER RETAIL REGISTRATIONS IN THE CITY. COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO AND COUNCILMEMBER CARTER I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU MR. BREELAND DO YOU HAVE DO YOU HAVE A SENSE FOR THE INQUIRIES YOU'VE RECEIVED TO DATE ON THIS HAS ANYONE COME FORWARD AND REQUESTED A STATUS OF LICENSE ISSUANCE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT TO?  GIVE US A SENSE FOR THE DEMAND FOR THE REGISTRATIONS.  MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO IT'S ACTUALLY BEEN ODDLY QUIET RECENTLY KNOW IN THE YEAR OR SO THAT I'VE BEEN IN THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE WE'VE OCCASIONALLY GOTTEN A CALL OR SOMEONE COMING IN INQUIRING ABOUT IT BUT THAT WAS SPENT SEVERAL MONTHS BEFORE THE OFFICE OF CANNABIS MANAGEMENT HAD REALLY BEGUN THEIR THEIR CURRENT PROCESS WHERE THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE I'M SURE AS YOU FOLLOWED IN THE NEWS THEY'RE REVIEWING THE EQUITY QUALIFIED APPLICANTS RIGHT NOW THAT WILL GO INTO A LOTTERY PROCESS THIS MONTH AND NEXT MONTH BEFORE THEY BEGIN ISSUING THOSE PRELIMINARY LICENSES. SO YEAH, IT'S BEEN IT'S BEEN ODDLY QUIET FOR AS MUCH AS IT'S BEEN IN THE NEWS . I HAVEN'T I PERSONALLY HAVE RECEIVED A TON OF INQUIRIES RECENTLY. DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY LICENSE REQUESTS THE STATE HAS RECEIVED TO DATE? OH GOSH THAT THAT NUMBER WAS JUST IN A NEWS STORY RECENTLY. I DIDN'T WRITE DOWN WITH ME ONE ONE ADDITIONAL PIECE OF CONTEXT FOR THE COUNCIL CONSIDER IN IN CONSIDERATION OF A OF A CAP ON THE NUMBER OF LICENSES IS THAT IN THE IN THE 2024 LEGISLATIVE SESSION STATE MADE SOME CHANGES TO THE LAW WHERE THEY ARE GOING TO FOR THE FIRST LET'S TELL ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF OF CANNABIS BEING IN THE MARKET THE STATE IS GOING TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF LICENSES THAT WILL BE ISSUED. SO FOR THE THE APPLICANTS THAT ARE GOING INTO THE SORT OF EQUITY LOTTERY I'LL CALL IT THIS FALL, THERE'S ONLY GOING TO BE ABOUT I WOULD SAY UNDER 200 LICENSES AND THEN FURTHERMORE ONCE THEY OPEN THE APPLICANT TO ALL APPLICANTS THROUGH ONE 2026 THERE ARE BETWEEN THE EQUITY APPLICANTS AND THE AND THE REGULAR APPLICANTS IN THAT FIRST YEAR AND A HALF OR SO THERE'S GOING TO BE FEWER THAN 200 I'M SORRY I MISSPOKE. FEWER THAN 250 RETAIL LICENSES ISSUED STATEWIDE.  SO THERE IS EFFECTIVELY A CAP APPLIED STATEWIDE. WE DON'T KNOW HOW THOSE WILL BE GEOGRAPHICALLY DISTRIBUTED AND HOW YOU KNOW HOW THAT FILTERS DOWN TO BLOOMINGTON. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER THEN COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS COUNCILMEMBER NELSON SO I WOULD BE FINE NOT HAVING CAP ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING WHAT YOU JUST SAID ABOUT THE STATE KIND OF ESSENTIALLY ONE BUT ALSO I GUESS MY PERSPECTIVE IS IF WE HAVE YOU KNOW THE REASONABLE BUFFER ZONES THAT'S ALREADY KIND OF LIMITING BUSINESS LIKE BUSINESS OPPORTUNITIES WHERE THEY CAN BE AS LONG AS WE HAVE THOSE IN PLACE THEN I DON'T FEEL LIKE IT'S NECESSARY NECESSARILY TO HAVE A CAP WHICH WOULD BE AN EVEN STRONGER CASE FOR A THOUSAND FEET. BUT I'M JUST COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION BASED ON THE I READ FROM THE NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES IN REGARDS TO THE LEGISLATIVE I HAVE A HARD TIME SAYING THAT THAT DECISION THAT JUST PASSED BY THE SENATE IN MINNESOTA THE STATE SENATE RIGHT THEY HAVEN'T DECIDED A LOT OF THE REGULATIONS THAT THEY WANT TO PUT OUT THERE. IT HAS TO WAIT UNTIL THE NEXT SESSION RIGHT JUST NEXT YEAR. ARE THERE ANY OTHER REGULATIONS THAT WE MIGHT ESTABLISH IN THIS CITY? ARE THEY GOING TO SUPPORT? IS THERE A POSSIBILITY THAT THAT MIGHT HAPPEN, THAT MIGHT BECAUSE WHAT THE STATE DECIDES NEXT YEAR A MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER RIOS I THINK I THINK WITH WITH ALL THINGS CANNABIS WITH THIS BEING SO NEW, I THINK THERE'S ALWAYS A POSSIBILITY THAT THE LEGISLATURE IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO THEY'RE GOING TO CERTAINLY GOING TO CONTINUE TO EVALUATE AND REEVALUATE AS THE MARKET OPENS. WHAT FURTHER CHANGES NEED TO BE MADE WHERE THINGS ARE CURRENTLY IS REALLY WITH THE OFFICE OF CANNABIS MANAGEMENT'S RULEMAKING PROCESS THAT THE OFFICE OF CANNABIS MANAGEMENT IS TASKED WITH BASICALLY INTERPRETING THE LAW THAT WAS PASSED AND PASSING ADMINISTRATIVE RULES THAT THAT WILL APPLY TO ALL CITIES IN THE STATE. SOME SOME ITEMS OF NOTE IN THAT LEGISLATIVE RULEMAKING THAT'S COME OUT RECENTLY OUR ITEMS LIKE SECURITY PRODUCTS STORAGE LIGHTING ITEMS LIKE THAT THAT WILL APPLY TO ALL CITY STATEWIDE.  THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON.  THANK YOU, MAYOR. I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS THAT ARE SOMEWHAT RELATED TO THIS. I APOLOGIZE IF THEY'RE NOT IN THE RIGHT AREA.  THE FIRST ONE IS PROBABLY SOMEWHERE NOBODY WANTS TO GO BUT OUR ALLOWED TO OWN THEIR OWN RETAIL ESTABLISHMENTS SIMILAR TO LIQUOR IN OTHER PLACES AND GENERATE REVENUE TO OFFSET OTHER COSTS. MR. FERRARI MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MAYBE I'LL DEFER TO MATT IF I MISSPEAK HERE BUT THE ANSWER IS YES THE CITY MAY.  THE DIFFERENCE IS THE CITY IS NOT AN EXCLUSIVE OPERATING RIGHT THE WAY THAT IT IS FOR MUNICIPAL LIQUOR SO THERE IS NO PREFERENCE AS I UNDERSTAND IT IN THE IN THE LICENSE GRANTING PROCESS THERE WAS A REFERENCE EARLIER TO THE COMMENT ABOUT WHETHER THE CITY SHOULD BE IN THE BUSINESS OR NOT AND WE HAD JUST A PASSING CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS AT THE END OF LAST YEAR BELIEVE WHEN WE WERE FORECASTING THAT WE'D HAVE THIS PROCESS COMING AND MY RECOMMENDATION AT THAT POINT WAS THAT WE NOT PURSUE IT NOT FOR ANY REASON RELATED TO THE BUSINESS OR THE THE LICENSE PURSUIT PROCESS SIMPLY BECAUSE IT'S A NEW START UP ENTERPRISE OPERATION. I THINK CITIES THAT ALREADY HAVE MUNICIPAL LIQUOR OR IN MUCH BETTER POSITION TO BE SUCCESSFUL WITH A NEW BUSINESS ENTERPRISE AND I THINK IT WOULD BE MORE CHALLENGING FOR US TO START UP A WHOLE NEW ENTERPRISE THAT WE HAVEN'T OPERATED BEFORE AND IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL WANTS TO CONSIDER DIFFERENTLY STAFF WOULD WOULD ACCEPT THAT AND START DOING SOME HOMEWORK.  SO I'LL SAY JUST FOR ME THAT AT THIS POINT I WOULD SAY NO.  HOWEVER I WOULD CONTINUE TO MONITOR THAT BASED ON WE'RE SEEING AND IF OTHER MUNICIPALITIES DO IT AND IT IS A SOURCE OF REVENUE AND IT IS A PLACE THAT WE CAN ENSURE YOU KNOW, WE MAINTAIN OUR BUFFERS THAT WE MAINTAIN GOOD CHECKS ON AGE AND OF THAT NATURE AND CAN RUN IT WELL AND MAKE SURE WE DO IT AND IT'S A TO GENERATE ADDITIONAL OTHER REVENUE THAT WOULD OTHERWISE BE COMING IN . BUT THE REALITY IS AND I TAKE YOUR POINT THAT YOU KNOW, WE'D HAVE TO COMPETE IN THE PRIVATE MARKETPLACE AND MAYBE THE GOVERNMENT ISN'T ALWAYS THE BEST AT THAT SO LET'S MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER NELSON I'M GLAD YOU SAID THAT BECAUSE I IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE SOME LEGISLATIVE INTENT WHICH IS THAT THE THEY WERE INTENTIONALLY THEY WERE INTENTIONAL ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT DISADVANTAGED BUSINESS ENTERPRISE AND MINORITY AND WOMEN OWNED ENTREPRENEUR HAD AN OPPORTUNITY IN THIS MARKETPLACE AND HAVE I THINK SET SOME GROUND RULES TO ENSURE THAT AND SO NOTION OF WHETHER A MUNICIPALITY SHOULD GET MOST FAVORED NATION STATUS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT WORKS AGAINST THAT OF THE LEGISLATURE. SO YOU KNOW THEY WANT TO SEE SMALL BUSINESS ENTERPRISE DO WELL IN THIS STARTUP BUSINESS ENVIRONMENT AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT COUNCIL UNDERSTOOD THAT AS WELL. SO AND THEN DOVETAILING THAT TALKING ABOUT REVENUE THE PART OF THE LAW IS THAT MUNICIPALITIES WILL GET REVENUE FROM THIS. CAN ANYBODY EXPLAIN HOW THAT WORKS? DOES THAT HAVE ANY IMPACT ON ANY DECISIONS WE'RE MAKING IN TERMS OF NUMBER OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT OF OF HOW THAT REVENUE SHARE OF THE TAX COMES BACK TO THE MUNICIPALITY? MR. BRILLANT MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER NELSON I HAVE JUST A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION ON THAT.  I DO KNOW THAT A SHARE OF THE OF THE STATE'S SALES TAX REVENUE ON CANNABIS IS GOING TO BE SPLIT BETWEEN. I CAN'T RECALL IF IT'S A 10% OR 20% SHARE OF WHAT THE STATE TAKES IN BUT SHARE WILL BE SPLIT BETWEEN CITIES AND COUNTIES TO FUND LOCAL ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS. SO YES, TO YOUR POINT, A FEWER A SMALLER NUMBER OF STORES COULD POTENTIALLY MEAN LESS REVENUE COMING INTO THE.  OKAY. MAYOR, IF I MIGHT ADD ONE OTHER AND I DON'T KNOW IF KNOW IF IS THE RIGHT AREA BUT THERE WAS A QUESTION FROM COMMISSION WITH REGARDS TO EVENTS IN MOBILE CANNABIS SALES LIKE YOU KNOW IF YOU CAN GO TO AN EVENT AND HAVE A BEER TRUCK CAN YOU GO THERE AND HAVE A THC TRUCK? AND HOW THAT WORKS HOW THAT WORKS BUFFERS.  I KNOW THAT THAT WAS MAYBE THE INFORMATION WAS NOT AVAILABLE TO THEM AT THAT TIME AND IT MAY NOT BE AVAILABLE NOW. SO I'M JUST TRYING TO FIND A PLACE TO ASK THAT QUESTION. MAYOR COUNCILMAN STAFF CONTINUES TO STUDY THE ISSUE OF CANNABIS EVENTS AND WHAT WE WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T LIMIT UNDER STATE STATUTE.  YOU KNOW, IT'S A THE CONCEPT OF A CANNABIS EVENT IS INTERESTING BECAUSE OF WHEN YOU TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION ALL OF THE PLACES WHERE YOU CAN'T USE CANNABIS INDOORS ON PUBLIC PROPERTY IN OR I'M SORRY NOT USE CANNABIS SMOKE I SHOULD SAY SMOKE OR VAPORIZE CANNABIS INDOORS IN PARKS OR OTHER VARIOUS PUBLIC PROPERTIES IT REALLY LIMITS I GUESS THE IMAGINATION OF WHAT A CANNABIS EVENT COULD BE.  I KNOW THAT MAYBE YOU HAVE A SMALLER MAYBE HAVE A BIGGER IMAGINATION THAN I DO BUT I KNOW THAT SOME SOME CANNABIS EVENTS WILL BE MORE LIKE A LIKE A TRADE SHOW BETWEEN YOU KNOW, IT'S A BUSINESS BUSINESS TRADE SHOW. OTHERS MAY BE MORE CONSUMER ORIENTED WHERE THERE IS SAMPLING.  AND ACTUALLY COUNCILMEMBER I ASKED THAT SIMILAR QUESTION OF MEMBERS THE OFFICE OF CANNABIS MANAGEMENT THREE MONTHS AGO OR SO AND THEY HAD NO ANSWER.  THEY HAD NO IDEA. SO YES, EXACTLY.  SO THOUGHTS ON THIS THE RETAIL LIMITATIONS, THE THE RECOMMENDATION BY BY PLANNING IN THE AND OUR HEALTH FOLKS ARE SAYING NO CAP.  I DON'T KNOW IF FOLKS ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.  I THINK I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE WITH IT AND SEE WHAT THE MARKET HAS TO BEAR AND ESPECIALLY WITH THE WITH BOTH ZONING AND THE DISTANCE REGULATIONS WE HAVE IN PLACE, IT'S WE GO WITH THAT. ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD. OKAY. WELL WE CAN I'LL TRY TO BE QUICK ABOUT THIS THIS NEXT ONE I BELIEVE THIS IS MY LAST SLIDE AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A VERY BRIEF UPDATE FROM EMILY IN THE PLANNING DIVISION.  SO RETAIL HOURS OF OPERATION WERE NOT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE BROUGHT UP BEFORE THE STATE LAW ACTUALLY ALLOWS CANNABIS RETAIL TO TAKE PLACE BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 8 A.M. AND 2 A.M. CITIES CAN FURTHER RESTRICT RETAIL HOURS. STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO BASICALLY SET RETAIL HOURS VERY SIMILAR TO LIQUOR STORES SO 8 A.M. TO 10 A.M. 8 A.M. TO 10 P.M. MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY IDENTICAL TO LIQUOR STORES IN BLOOMINGTON AND WHAT'S UNDER WHAT'S ALLOWED STATE STATUTE. THE SUN HOURS ARE A LITTLE LONGER THAN WHAT'S ALLOWED FOR LIQUOR BUT THAT'S JUST DUE TO WHAT YOU CAN DO UNDER THE LAW CITIES CAN ONLY RESTRICTED TO IS AS LITTLE 10 A.M. TO 9 P.M. YOU CAN'T RESTRICT FURTHER THAN THAT WHEREAS FOR LIQUOR STORES THEY'RE BOUND UNDER STATE STATUTE THEY CAN ONLY BE OPENED. I THINK 11 TO 6 ON SUNDAYS SO LOTS OF THOUGHTS ON THIS.  I'VE JUST A QUICK CLARIFICATION IF I MAY. CALIFORNICATION COUNCIL MEMBER YOU SAID MR. MERLOT YOU SAID IF WE WANTED TO MAKE SUNDAY 11 TO 6 TO BE CONSISTENT WITH LIQUOR, COULD WE DO THAT?  YOU'RE SAYING THAT THIS IS THE MINIMUM AMOUNT THAT THE STATE WILL LET US LIMIT SUNDAY. MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO, THIS IS THE 10 A.M. TO 9 P.M. IS THE MOST THAT CITIES CAN RESTRICT HOURS UNDER THE STATE STATUTE YOU CANNOT RESTRICTED TO OPEN LATER THAN TEN OR CLOSE EARLIER THAN NINE.  INTERESTING. SO WE THE CITY CANNOT BUT FOR SUNDAY OR ON SUNDAYS THE CITY CAN'T QUITE MATCH LIQUOR STORE HOURS JUST BECAUSE LIQUOR STORE HOURS ARE SO RESTRICTED UNDER STATE SET YOU SO SET WAY CITIES CAN LIMIT RETAIL HOURS BUT ONLY TO A CERTAIN EXTENT BECAUSE THEY'VE GIVEN US THE MINIMUMS. CORRECT. THE MAXIMUM IS 8 A.M. TO 8 A.M. TO 2 A.M. THE MINIMUM IS THE MINIMUM DAYS A WEEK IS EFFECTIVELY 10 A.M. TO 9 P.M.. THANKS. THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER.  I WAS JUST UP REAL QUICK HERE AT LIQUOR HOURS JUST BECAUSE I THEY HAVE THAT SUNDAY SO LIKE IF WE DID SUNDAY AND WE ALLOTTED THEM TO BE OPEN 10 TO 9 BUT THE STORE CLOSES BEFORE THAT LIKE THAT'S THE STORES PREROGATIVE.  IT'S NOT US ENFORCING THAT RIGHT. SO WE'RE NOT CAUSED WE'RE NOT UNDER ANY ISSUE WITH LEGISLATION.  MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER THAT'S CORRECT. YEAH THE SOME SOME LIQUOR STORES IN BLOOMINGTON TODAY OR CHOOSE TO OPEN IT 9:10 A.M. OR LATER. MANY ARE OPEN IT AT 8 A.M. YEAH. CERTAINLY NOT BOUND TO COUNCILMEMBER. WOMAN SO HOW WOULD THAT WORK IF LET'S SAY YOU DID HAVE A LIQUOR AND YOU WANTED TO CONTINUE SELLING THE CANNABIS YOU JUST WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SELL THE LIQUOR. MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER LEMON I SHOULD CLARIFY ACTUALLY IN STATUTE THESE RETAIL HOURS ARE ONLY FOR THE CANNABIS RETAIL DISPENSARIES. THESE ARE IN A DIFFERENT PART OF THE STATUTE THAN THE LOWER POTENCY HEMP.  SO I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THAT. I DON'T THINK THE CITY HAS THAT SAME AUTHORITY TO LIMIT HOURS ON THE LOWER POTENCY HEMP IF COULD ASK ONE MORE FOLLOW UP ON THE MEMORY LIMIT. SO THEN WITH WITH THE TWO AIM IN MIND SO THAT'S IS THAT OFF SALE AND ON SALE OR IS THAT JUST STILL FOR THE YEAH FOR MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER LAW AND FOR ON SALE AGAIN THE ONLY THE ONLY PRODUCTS THAT ARE ALLOWED FOR ONSITE CONSUMPTION LIKE A BEVERAGE ARE AT ARE THE HEMP BASED PRODUCTS AND HOLDERS OF A LIQUOR LICENSE ARE ELIGIBLE TO SERVE THE HEMP AT THE HEMP DRINKS THAT ON THE MARKET TODAY OKAY THAT DOESN'T APPLY TO THIS RIGHT HERE RIGHT ? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. I'M JUST I DON'T I'M NOT YEAH . OFFICIAL TITLE AT ALL WITH THIS AS CLEARLY YOU'D SEE THAT SO THEN WHAT WHAT ARE OTHER CITIES DOING WITH IT. I MEAN I CAN'T IMAGINE A 2 A.M. TIME FRAME TO BE OPEN THAT LATE. HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE.  MAYOR COMES FROM A WOMAN I YOU KNOW I DON'T HAVE A LOT FOR YOU THERE.  I ASKED WHY THEY HAD SET THE HOURS SO BROADLY BUT I THAT WAS DONE WITH MAYBE YOU KNOW THERE THERE ARE CERTAIN TYPE THERE ARE CANNABIS TYPES OF BUSINESSES THAT DO ALLOW SOME ON SITE CONSUMPTION IN A LIMITED CAPACITY PERHAPS CITIES WOULD BE INTERESTED IN IN ALLOWING TO BE OPENED LATER BUT I JUST MADE ASSUMPTION HERE THAT THE COUNCIL WOULD BE MORE COMFORTABLE WITH OURS SIMILAR TO TWO LIQUOR STORE HOURS. YEAH YEAH.  JUST VERY JUST YOU KNOW I AM MORE IN THAT CAMP. I JUST TRY TO UNDERSTAND THE BUSINESS MODEL BEHIND THAT UP TO 2 A.M. YOU KNOW IF THAT MADE SENSE TO KIND OF DO THAT BUT I WOULD WANT TO BE MORE CAUTIOUS AS WE GET STARTED AND AND I ASSUME WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY PROPOSALS FOR A 2 A.M. AT ALL AT THIS POINT AND JUST WAIT AND SEE IF THE MARKET AS ASKING FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT FOR TO KIND OF MAKE A DECISION AROUND THAT I, I LIKE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE I AGREE WITH YOU COUNCILMEMBER AND WE DON'T NEED TO GO TO BAR TIME WITH THIS. THAT MAKES NO SENSE. THERE'S BAR TIME IS BUSY.  WE DON'T NEED TO ADD ONE MORE THING SO I WOULD I WOULD RECOMMEND WE STICK THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS ON THIS. ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON THAT STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS OKAY GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS I'M HERE FOR US. YEAH I'M HERE TO GIVE YOU JUST A QUICK UPDATE OF WHAT HAPPENED AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION PUBLIC HEARING. SO WE TO A STUDY SESSION WITH PLANNING COMMISSION WE WENT TO A STUDY SESSION WITH YOU ALL AND WE FELT THAT WE COULD MOVE AHEAD WITH THE ORDINANCE PIECE OF THIS. SO WE HELD PUBLIC HEARING ON AUGUST 15TH AT PLANNING COMMISSION THEY RECOMMENDED ADOPTION OF THE ORDINANCE FOR TWO ONE. THERE WERE NO COMMENTS REALLY ON THE  ZONING DISTRICTS OR APPROVAL TYPES. WE DID HAVE A LAST MINUTE CHANGE TO THE WORDING OF ONE OF THE DEFINITIONS AND THE USE TABLES AS WAS WE WERE WORKING AN EXISTING MEDICAL MARIJUANA BUSINESS IN BLOOMINGTON SO WE KIND OF CHANGED SOME OF THAT AND THERE WERE NO PEOPLE WHO CAME TO TESTIFY.  IT WAS FOR THE MOST PART PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. AND THEN MY NEXT SLIDE GOES OVER THE THINGS THAT WERE CHANGED AND AGAIN YOU WILL ALL HAVE A CHANCE TO COMMENT ON THIS AT THE PUBLIC HEARING. WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU FOR ADOPTION OF THIS.  BUT BASICALLY JUST A QUICK SUMMARY ZONING CODE CHANGES WE ADDED A FEW DIFFERENT USE TYPES SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO CANNABIS.  WE ADDED THOSE DEFINITIONS INTO THE DEFINITION SECTION.  WE PUT THOSE NEW USES INTO ZONING DISTRICTS AND MADE THEM CONDITIONAL USERS PRETTY MUCH THAT THEY HAVE ADDITIONAL LEVEL OF REVIEW.  WE DON'T HAVE NEW STANDARDS AT THIS MOMENT. WE HAVE A LEFT OPEN BLANK FOR THAT TO THE POINT IN THE CONVERSATION EARLIER THE STATE DOESN'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING YET SO WE'RE KIND OF WAITING FOR THAT FOR THINGS LIKE LIGHTING AND SECURITY.  AND THEN LASTLY, ONE OF THE BIG CHANGES IS JUST DELETIONS OF THE OLD STANDARDS FOR MEDICAL MARIJUANA.  SO YEAH, SO THAT'S KIND OF JUST A SUMMARY OF THOSE CHANGES.  THAT'S ALL I HAVE. SO BASED ON THE DIRECTION WE RECEIVE TONIGHT STAFF WILL FINISH DRAFTING THE LICENSING AND REGISTRATION AND WE WILL BE BACK IN FRONT OF YOU IN SEPTEMBER. WE'RE BOTH ORDINANCES WILL HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN CONSIDERATION BY THE COUNCIL THANK YOU THANK YOU.  NEXT ON OUR AGENDA COUNCIL IS ITEM 5.2. IT'S OUR STUDY ON SHORT TERM RENTALS AND DO WANT TO POINT OUT TO THE COUNCIL WE'VE STILL GOT THREE MORE KIND OF BEEFY ITEMS ON AGENDA HERE WE ARE ALREADY AT 845 AND SO I'LL POINT IT OUT TO THE COUNCIL AND I'LL POINT IT OUT TO STAFF AS WELL THAT GOT TO GET HOME AND SEE WHAT KIND OF STORM DAMAGE WE'VE GOT. SO THAT'S HOPEFULLY ZERO.  GOOD EVENING.  WELCOME. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. I AM BEFORE YOU TODAY TO TALK ABOUT SHORT TERM RENTALS. THIS IS STUDY ITEM SESSION.  THIS IS KIND OF A ROADMAP OF WHAT I WOULD BE TAKING YOU THROUGH TODAY PRETTY STANDARD PROJECT BACKGROUND ANALYSIS, POLICY OPTIONS AND POTENTIAL NEXT STEPS DEPENDING ON YOUR DIRECTION.  SO PROHIBITION FOR RENTALS LESS THAN 30 CONSECUTIVE DAYS WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2016. SHORT TERM WERE REVISITED AS PART OF A SHARING ECONOMY STUDY ITEM SESSION BUT THAT HAPPENED IN JANUARY OF 2020 AND COVID 19 SHIFTED PRIORITIES AND PAUSED FURTHER FOR THE SHARING ECONOMY. AND SO IN 2023 AND 2024 SHORT TERM RENTALS SPECIFICALLY WAS ADDED TO THE COMMISSION WORK PLAN AND THAT'S HOW WE ARE HERE TODAY.  AS I SAID, SHORT TERM RENTALS OR TRANSIT LONGINES OR RESIDENTIAL STAYS LESS THAN 30 CONSECUTIVE DAYS AND THEY'RE KIND OF A COMPLEX USE BECAUSE THEY OPERATE BOTH IN THE RESIDENTIAL HOUSING MARKET AS WELL AS THE HOSPITALITY INDUSTRY. FOR THE STUDY I CONSIDERED BTR WELCOMING AND CONNECTED COMMUNITY. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ELEMENT THREE HOUSING AND THE RECENT RESOLUTION 2474 ABOUT ALIGNING HOUSING WITH THE BLOOMINGTON TOMORROW TOGETHER PARDON ME STRATEGIC PLAN. SO THE QUESTION THAT I HAVE FOR YOU TONIGHT IS SHOULD THE CITY CONTINUE THE PROHIBITION ON SHORT RENTALS OR ALLOW THE USE IN SOME FORM?  THIS MAP SHOWS THE VARIOUS CITIES IN THE TWIN CITIES METRO AND THEIR SHORT TERM RENTAL POLICIES GREEN ALLOWS SHORT TERM RENTALS EITHER BY EXPLICIT ORDINANCE WHERE THEY SAY YES IT IS OKAY OR THEY ARE SILENT ON IT WHERE THEY DON'T EXPLICITLY BE PROHIBITED.  SO IT MEANS THEY MAY OPERATE AND THEY DON'T REGULATE OR THEY JUST ALLOW IT WITH THEIR SHORT TERM OR THEIR RENTAL LICENSING.  BUT THERE'S NO SPECIFIC NEW STANDARDS. YELLOW OR RED IS CITIES THAT EXPLICITLY PROHIBIT SHORT TERM RENTALS AT THIS TIME AND YELLOW IS KIND OF A PARTIAL PROHIBITION.  WHEN I CALLED INTEGRAL PILOTS THEY SAID NO, WE DON'T ALLOW IT UNLESS THEY ARE A ROOM IN A HOUSE WHERE THE OWNER LIVES THERE. SO IT HAS TO BE OWNER OCCUPIED AT HOUSE AND IT CANNOT BE AND IT CAN ONLY BE A ROOM.  SHORT TERM RENTAL CONSIDERATIONS FIT INTO THE FIVE THEMES THAT YOU SEE HERE ON THE SCREEN THE SPECIFICS OF THESE SHORT TERM OF THESE CONSIDERATIONS ARE THAT SHORT TERM RENTALS CAN HAVE AN IMPACT ON HOUSING COST AND AFFORDABILITY EXCUSE ME HOUSING COST AND AVAILABILITY . THEY ALSO IMPACT THE AVAILABILITY LONG TERM HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES THEY CAN IMPACT VIA NUISANCES AS WELL AS DEMOGRAPHIC AND POPULATION CHANGES THEY AND DUE TO DECENTRALIZING AND THEY TAKE TIME AND RESOURCES TO REGULATE AND CAN BE CHALLENGING TO REGULATE AND COLLECT TAXES THEY CAN GENERATE INCOME FOR HOMEOWNERS TO OFFSET COST OF LIVING AND THEY COULD BE A NEW REVENUE SOURCE FOR THE LODGING TAX FOR AREAS WHERE EFFECTIVE THE BOOMING THIS THE BLOOMINGTON'S SPECIFIC CONTEXT FOR THOSE MEAN FIVE MAIN CONSIDERATIONS. PLANNING COMMISSION SPECIFICALLY THE POTENTIAL NEGATIVE IMPACTS TO HOUSING AFFORDABILITY AVAILABILITY DUE TO THE LOW VACANCY BOTH HOME OWNER OCCUPIED OPPORTUNITIES AND RENTER OCCUPIED OR RENTER OCCUPIED OPPORTUNITIES. THE CITY'S HOTELS AND THE COMPETITION THAT COULD IMPACT THEM FROM SHORT TERM RENTALS BEING ALLOWED THE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORHOODS ESPECIALLY WHEN THINKING ABOUT SOCIAL ISOLATION AS WELL AS THE NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER AND THE ADDITIONAL STAFF TIME AND RESOURCES TO DEVELOP AND ADMINISTER THE PROGRAM SO THOSE WERE THEIR PRIMARY CONCERNS FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION.  THIS SLIDE HERE IS JUST TO SHOW THAT THE THERE ARE REGULATORY TOOLS AVAILABLE SO ALTHOUGH IT'S NOT SPECIFIC THE TOPIC OF THIS DISCUSSION I JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU THAT THERE ARE THERE ARE PLACES OUT THERE THAT DO REGULATE AND THOSE THESE ARE THE TOOLS ARE AVAILABLE TO US IF WE DID ALLOW IT. SO THE EFFICACY OF THESE TOOLS WOULD DEPEND ON THE DEMAND OF SHORT TERM RENTALS AND SOME OF THE OTHER REQUIREMENTS IF IF YOU DIRECT TO ALLOW IT THOSE REGULATORY TOOLS WOULD TOGETHER IN ORDER TO UNDERSTAND THE EFFICACY OF MITIGATING IMPACT OF SHORT TERM RENTALS.  SO THERE WERE FOUR POLICY OPTIONS THAT ARE PRESENTED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.  THERE IS PROHIBITION OWNER PRESENT OWNER USUALLY PRESENT OR OWNER NEVER PRESENT OF A DWELLING UNIT OR DWELLING UNITS.  SO THINGS LIKE DUPLEXES OR OTHER KIND OF STRUCTURES WITH MULTIPLE UNITS TO GIVE THEIR ASSESSMENT ON THE STUDY QUESTION THE PLANNING COMMISSION USED A DOT OR STICKER POLL TO VOTE BETWEEN THESE OPTIONS. EACH COMMISSIONER COULD VOTE FOR OR FOR ANY NUMBER OF OPTIONS ONCE SO THE STRONGEST PREFERENCE WAS FOR THE CONTINUED PROHIBITION WHICH IS OPTION ONE. ALL FIVE OF THE PRESENT PLANNING COMMISSIONERS VOTED FOR PROHIBITION FOLLOWED BY SECOND PREFERENCE OF ALLOWING OWNER OCCUPIED OR OWNER PRESENT.  OPTION TWO THIS IS IN LINE WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.  THIS TABLE SHOWS THE FOUR POLICY OPTIONS IN MORE DETAIL AND TO SHOW THAT ATOP ACCOMMODATION TYPES AND THE IMPACTS.  SO THIS SHOWS ALSO THE LIKELIHOOD OF IMPACT ON HOUSING AVAILABILITY AFFORDABILITY.  NEIGHBORHOODS, HOTELS AND HOSTS THE OPTIONS ARE RANGE FROM THE LEAST LIKELIHOOD OF IMPACT TO THE MOST LIKELY HOOD OF IMPACT WHICH IS LEAST PERMISSIVE ALSO TO MORE PERMISSIVE.  SO NEXT STEPS AFTER DISCUSSION. SO IF WE'RE DIRECTED TO CONTINUE THE PROHIBITION PROJECT WILL BE COMPLETE AND NO FURTHER ACTIONS WOULD BE REQUIRED.  THIS DOES NOT ELIMINATE THE OPTION FOR COUNCIL OR PLANNING COMMISSION TO REVISIT THIS TOPIC AT JUST AS FOR RIGHT NOW WE WOULD CONTINUE THE PROHIBITION IF DIRECTED TO ALLOW THAT MEANS THEY GO TO CODE AMENDMENTS AND PUBLIC HEARINGS SO PLANNING'S RESPONSIBILITY WOULD BE UPDATING CHAPTERS 19 AND 21 THE USE TABLES AND POSSIBLY SOME STANDARDS WE WOULD RECOMMEND A DELAYED DATE OF THE ORDINANCE TO ALLOW FOR OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS LIKE ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH TO DEVELOP PROCESSES AND PROGRAMS ON HOW TO HANDLE THIS NEW USE IN AREAS OF THE CITY.  I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO THIS TABLE HERE TO GIVE YOU A REPRESENTATION OF WHAT THE OPTIONS ARE AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.  THANK YOU MUCH COUNSEL QUESTIONS THOUGHTS ON THIS COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO. THANK YOU, MAYOR. A QUESTION FOR YOU. THANKS FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT. IN IN THE CASE WHERE WE TALK ABOUT GUESTROOM SUITE PORTION OF DWELLING 82. ARE WE MAKING ANY EXPLICIT REQUIREMENTS FOR THE SPACE ITSELF IN TERMS OF ITS SIZE RELATIVE TO THE HOUSE ETC.? THE REASON I ASK THAT QUESTION IS I KNOW THAT WE DO HAVE SOME OF THAT AS IT RELATES TO YOU ADD SOME PROPORTION OF THE TOTAL NUMBER OF YOU KNOW, SQUARE FEET OR WHATEVER IT IS AND THAT CAN BE LIMITING IN . HERREN LEE, IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR EXAMPLE, A FINISHED BASEMENT 82 RIGHT WHERE THE FOOTPRINT OF THE HOUSE IS EXACTLY THE SAME AND SO THEREFORE IT DOESN'T QUALIFY UNDER ADA STANDARDS.  IS THERE ANYTHING PROPOSED IN TERMS OF LIMITING HERE, MR. BARRON? COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THAT WOULD BE IF YOU WANTED TO ALLOW THE SHORT TERM RENTAL AS A USE THOSE THINGS COULD BE SPECIFIED. SO YOU'RE KIND OF HAVE LOT OF OPTIONS OF LIMITING IT OR NOT LIMITING IT. OKAY. SO PORTION OF DWELLING MIGHT BE BASEMENT BECAUSE IT'S NOT TECHNICALLY IN ADU BUT IT'S AVAILABLE FOR OFFERING OF ACCOMMODATION. GUESTROOM AND SUITE IS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.  AND THEN 80 USE WOULD BE YOU KNOW IF THERE IT WOULD LIKELY BE THE ENTIRE SPACE OF THE YOU REGARDLESS OF WHETHER IT WAS INTERNAL OR OR DETACHED. AND WE PUTTING LIMITATIONS HOW MUCH OF AN 80 YOU YOU COULD OFFER ON YOUR SHORT TERM RENTAL LIKELY WOULD BE REALLY CHALLENGING TO ENFORCE AND ALSO A CHALLENGING TO DO. RIGHT. THAT'S HELPFUL. THANK YOU.  OKAY. SO I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM. WE WILL HAVE THAT WE'LL HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY POTENTIALLY AS WE LOOK AT THE RECOMMENDED LANGUAGE THERE. YES. SO IN THE SEC FOR THE SAKE OF BREVITY, MR. MAYOR, I THINK NUMBER TWO IS GREAT FOR ME AND SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE IT DOES SOLVE THAT CHALLENGE. I THINK WE'VE HEARD FROM A NUMBER OF PEOPLE OVER THE COURSE THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS WHERE THEY HAVE A BASEMENT, YOU KNOW, IN LAW TYPE SUITE. IT'S THE SAME FOOTPRINT OF THEIR HOUSE SO THEREFORE IT CAN'T QUALIFY AS AN EDU BUT WE DON'T HAVE SHORT TERM RENTAL FOR THEM SO THEY'RE STUCK IN THIS WEIRD PLACE WHERE THEY HAVE THE SPACE AND THEY CAN'T DO SOMETHING WITH IT UNLESS THEY OFFER IT FOR A LONG TERM SITUATION WHICH IS NOT NECESSARILY WHAT YOU KNOW AN ADU IS MEANT FOR IN LOTS OF CIRCUMSTANCES. SO I, I PARTICULARLY APPRECIATE THIS COMPROMISE POSITION OF AN OPTION.  THANKS. COUNCILMEMBER. THANK YOU, MAYOR.  I WANT TO THANK COUNCILMEMBER PATRICK MARTIN WHO WAS WILLING TO TO DELAY THIS PROJECT A NUMBER OF GUESS A YEAR PAST AS I THING SO I WILL IN THE SPIRIT OF HIM KEEP A VERY OPEN MIND. I'M FIRMLY IN THE IN THE NUMBER ONE CATEGORY HERE. BUT WHAT I WANTED TO ASK WAS AROUND THIS THIS NUMBER TWO PORTION AND WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IS HOW HOW STAFF BELIEVES THAT IMPACTS AFFORDABLE HOUSING.  IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IF THIS PROCESS THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO BUILD AN 80 YOU KNOW AT SOME THEY MAY SELL THE PROPERTY AND THEN THAT WOULD BECOME AN AFFORDABLE UNIT OR BE ANOTHER UNIT THAT WOULD BE ADDED YOU KNOW IN TERMS OF WE'RE DOING. HELP ME TO UNDERSTAND HOW THAT THAT THAT THIS THIS OPTION HERE TOO WOULD WOULD IMPACT THAT THAT AFFORDABILITY. I'M JUST NOT SEEING THAT. MR. MAYOR.  COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN. SO THIS IS ACTUALLY DUE TO THE COST TO BUILD AN ADU.  SO THE COST TO BUILD AN IDEA IS RIGHT NOW THE CIRCUMSTANCES TO BUILD THEM WOULD BE PRETTY MUCH LARGER THAN IT EVER HAS BEEN IN THE PAST AND IT WAS ALREADY RATHER EXPENSIVE.  AND IN THE CASE OF LIKE OWNER OCCUPIED SITUATIONS WHERE THEY ALREADY OWN THE HOME KIND OF LIKE SALT LAKE NOT SOLVED. BUT IF THE GOAL IS SOMEONE TO HAVE LONG TERM HOUSING AND SO AN OWNER OWNS THEIR HOME AND THEY LIVE IN THEIR HOME AND THEY HAVE AN IDEA THAT THEY MIGHT USE FAMILY MEMBERS RENT OUT LONG TERM OR SAY IN THIS CASE TO DO SHORT TERM RENTAL REALLY THE PRIMARY USE OF THE PROPERTY IS HAVING SOMEONE WITH A LONG TERM LIKE HOUSING OPPORTUNITY AND THEN IF THEY WERE TO SELL THEY MAY ME LIKELY BECAUSE OF THE COST OF NEEDS THAT COULD INCREASE THE PRICE THAT THEY SELL THE PROPERTY AT AND WITH THE CURRENT HOUSING PRICES INCREASES LIKE THAT TO GIVE OTHERS OPPORTUNITIES TO OWN PROPERTY THERE WOULD BE A RESTRICTION THERE AND CURRENTLY 80 USE CAN ONLY BE RENTED IF THE OWNER LIVES IN THE HOME. SO EVEN IF SOMEONE SOLD AND AT A HIGHER PRICE AND SOMEONE'S LIKE WHILE RENT BOTH OF THOSE BECAUSE OUR CURRENT MEDIAN RENTS ARE A GREAT SOURCE OF REVENUE BECAUSE OF KIND OF HOW HIGH THEY ARE WHICH IS KIND OF LIKE A LITTLE BIT OF A BITTERSWEET FACT ABOUT THAT.  SO THERE WOULDN'T BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TURN THAT INTO NECESSARY LEAD TO RENT OR OPPORTUNITIES BUT OWNERSHIP EDU AND THEN THE PERSON BUYING THE HOME WOULD NEED TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD THE COST TO BUY IT. SO IT'S KIND OF IT'S VERY LAYERED BUT THAT'S WHY IT WOULD KIND OF AN IMPACT.  I REALIZE THEY PUT AFFORDABILITY AND AFFORDABILITY FOR A COUPLE OF THESE I MEAN AFFORDABILITY AND AVAILABILITY BUT IT WOULD BE PRIMARILY AN IMPACT ON AFFORDABILITY WHERE AVAILABILITY MEAN TO NEW UNITS IS GREAT. THEN AFFORDABILITY COMES AND IT KIND OF STILL PLAYS AN IMPACT ON HOW PEOPLE HAVE ACCESS TO HOUSING. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT I'M A IT'S STILL A LITTLE BIT LOST ON THE ON HOW IT DOESN'T IMPACT IT BUT BUT I THINK WHEN YOU USE THE AVAILABILITY PIECE I THINK I'M STARTING TO FOLLOW THIS A LITTLE BIT BETTER. THANK YOU.  OTHERS COUNCILMEMBER THANK YOU, MAYOR.  I'M ACTUALLY MORE OF THE IN THE THREE AND FOUR CAMP I THINK THIS IS ESPECIALLY WHEN WE THINK ABOUT BLOOMINGTON AND HOW WE WE SPEAK SO HIGHLY OF BEING THE HOSPITALITY CENTER OF THE TWIN CITIES. THIS TO ME LINES UP EXACTLY WITH THAT.  AND THEN WHEN I THINK ABOUT WHAT BLOOMINGTON OFFERS, WE OFFER PROXIMITY TO DOWNTOWN MINNEAPOLIS TO SAINT PAUL.  IF YOU'VE BEEN IN BLOOMINGTON, A LITTLE NIGHTLIFE IN BLOOMINGTON IS AN EXACTLY HOP IN HERE.  WHEN I CHOOSE WHEN I GO OUT OF TOWN TO VISIT PLACES LIKE WHERE AM I CHOOSING AIRBNBS?  SOMEWHERE CLOSE TO BARS, RESTAURANTS, PLACES I CAN GO OUT.  AND SO WHEN I THINK ABOUT OPENING THIS UP, WHAT TYPE OF PEOPLE WOULD BE WANTING TO RENT THEIR PLACE AND WHAT TYPE OF PEOPLE WOULD BE COMING HERE TO DO TO STAY HERE? A LOT OF BUSINESS TRAVEL AND A LOT OF MAJOR EVENTS SO WHEN WE HOST THE SUPER BOWL WE HOST GOLF TOURNAMENTS, WE HAVE NCAA TOURNAMENTS HERE LIKE THAT'S WHEN I SEE PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO SAY HEY RENT MY HOUSE FOR THREE DAYS AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S MY MORTGAGE PAYMENT FOR THOSE THREE MONTHS LIKE THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME BECAUSE IT'S LIMITED AND WHO'S GOING TO BE COMING HERE? WHO WHO'S GOING TO STAY HERE LONG TERM?  AND I THINK THAT HAS A SMALLER EFFECT ON AFFORDABILITY PIECE WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOMEOWNERSHIP AND THINGS LIKE THAT HERE IN BLOOMINGTON. SO I ACTUALLY LEAN MORE TOWARDS THREE AND FOUR BECAUSE I THINK WE'VE HEARD PEOPLE SPEAK ABOUT IT AND JUST NATURE OF HOW MOVED AND SET UP ALLOWS US TO KIND OF HAVE BOTH AT THE SAME TIME CUSTOMER WITH US SO THAT QUESTION WHAT IS THE IMPACT ON THE TAX REVENUE FOR THE CITY BASED ON THE HOSPITALITY AND THE UNPAID YOU I'M SORRY COULD YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION WHAT DO YOU SEE IN THE REVENUE IMPACT ON COMPARING HOTEL TAX REVENUE TO AN 80 YEAR RENTAL? IT'S A SIGNIFICANT THERE'S A BENEFIT TO THE CITY MORE OR LESS OR WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN TO DO THIS TO MARION COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS. SO WITH THE TAX I'M SURE OUR FINANCE TEAM I COULD PASS IT ALONG TO ACTUALLY KIND OF TALK A LITTLE BIT AND OUR ASSESSING TEAM COULD TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE THAT IN CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM BOTH THE THERE WOULD BE IN A POLICY THERE WOULD BE A PROVISION IN THERE IN ORDER TO CONNECT COLLECT LODGING TAX ON REVENUE FROM THAT GENERATED FROM SHORT TERM AND SHORT TERM RENTALS.  THERE IS A CHALLENGE IN COLLECTING IT ESPECIALLY.  THERE'S ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE BUT ENOUGH OF IT WHERE CITIES HAVE HAD DIFFICULTY WORKING WITH PLATFORMS IN ORDER GET THAT REVENUE FROM THEM WHERE THEY THE PLATFORM COLLECTS IT AND THEN WE GET IT FROM THEM BUT IT HAS BEEN DONE SO IT COULD BE AN OPTION  AND SOMETIMES LIKE ASSESSING BROUGHT UP THAT RENTING OUT YOUR HOME FOR IN CERTAIN UNDER OF DAYS IN THE YEAR EVEN ON A SHORT TERM RENTAL SIDE COULD CHANGE YOUR TAX CLASSIFICATION FOR YOUR HOME WHERE IT COULD BE SLIGHTLY HIGHER THAN A RESIDENTIAL TAX BUT IT'S LOWER THAN A HOTEL TAX SO IT WOULD BE MORE BUT THAT REALLY KIND OF DEPENDS ON HOW MANY AIRBNBS OR EXCUSE ME SHORT TERM RENTALS BECAUSE IT DOES HAVE TO BE AIRBNBS HOW MANY SHORT TERM RENTALS ACTUALLY COME IN THE CITY? YOU KNOW WHAT THE MARKET DEMANDS FOR IT SO IT COULD BE NOT THAT MUCH OR MAYBE IT'S A LOT MORE BUT IN THE SENSE WERE HUGE CRICKET CRITICAL MASS WHERE WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF REVENUE THERE. WE MIGHT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT OTHER IMPACTS LIKE LONG TERM HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES TURNING OVER TO SHORT TERM RENTAL AND BEING REMOVED FROM THE LONG TERM HOUSING MARKET.  SO IT MIGHT WE MIGHT RUN INTO STILL A CHALLENGE HAVE TO ADDRESS IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE WHO WANT TO LIVE HERE CAN LIVE HERE ESPECIALLY OUR WORKERS AND IN OTHER WORDS WE'RE REVENUE FROM THE HOTEL INDUSTRY. RIGHT. I MEAN ANY WAY YOU IT IT'S HE LOWERS THE INCOME TO THE CITY BASED ON THE TAX REVENUE BY SHEER NUMBERS YES BECAUSE WE HAVE 10,000 HOTEL ROOMS LIKE 46 HOTELS ACROSS VARIOUS PRICE POINTS. I THINK THAT IN SHEER NUMBERS A SHORT TERM RENTAL INCOME AT A OR REVENUE AT A LEVEL THAT ALSO DOESN'T IMPACT OUR LONG TERM HOUSING MAY SEEM VERY INSIGNIFICANT. IT WOULD BE SOMETHING I'M UNFORTUNATELY NOT THE FINANCE EXPERT IN THIS CASE IN ORDER TO GIVE MORE NARROW A BIT OF INFORMATION TO KIND OF SHOW SHOW WHAT THE COMPARISON WOULD BE. BUT IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE HOTEL SHEER NUMBERS IT WON'T BE AS MUCH AS THAT AND THERE THERE'S A THERE'S STILL FINANCE IS SAID LIKE SOMETIMES WE STILL HAVE TO GO TO HOTELS AND ASK THEM TO, YOU KNOW, PAY THEIR TAX SO THERE IS STILL A LITTLE LEVEL OF INVESTIGATION THERE BUT THEY ARE MORE CENTRALIZED. SO EFFICACY OF THAT IS HIGHER THAN WHAT IT WOULD BE FOR A DECENTRALIZED MARKET.  I THINK YOU EVEN OTHER QUESTIONS COUNCIL COUNCILMEMBER LEMON THANK YOU HERE SO LET'S SAY IF WE WENT DOWN THE THE THE THREE FOUR AREA CAN WE CAP ANY OF THAT AT ALL OR IS THAT NEED TO BE OPEN OPEN MARKET MARKETPLACE FOR THAT I THINK I SAW YOU WE COULD PUT A CAP ON THAT AND THEN IF WE WERE TO OPEN THIS THE THREE OR FOUR THAT WOULD OPEN UP THIS IDEA OF MAYBE A BED AND BREAKFAST TYPE IDEA, WOULD THAT BE ABLE TO FIT IN THE SAME OR IS THAT A SEPARATE CATEGORY ALTOGETHER? MR. MARIN COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN THAT WOULD BE A SEPARATE CATEGORY. IT IS DEFINED AS A DIFFERENT OF USE AND THAT IS A LITTLE BIT MORE WELL DEFINED THAN SHORT TERM RENTALS ARE IN THE SENSE OF THE WHAT EXACTLY IS A BED AND BREAKFAST USUALLY.  THERE'S SOME SORT OF RULES AROUND THE MEALS THAT ARE PROVIDED AND WHEN AND HOW MANY ROOMS IN A OR YOU KNOW IN A BED AND BREAKFAST THAT COULD BE ALLOWED IN IN RESIDENTIAL ZONING. SO IT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT IT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT USE AND WOULDN'T APPLY UNDER THIS TRANSIT, LODGING OR LODGING 30 DAYS OR TWO CONSECUTIVE DAYS OR LESS. IT'S JUST WHEN I HEAR MY FORECAST WHEN WE'RE TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING I WOULD BE THINKING ABOUT IF THERE'S A WAY TO KIND OF IF WE WOULD GO DOWN THAT THREE FOUR AREA THAT WE HAVE MAYBE INCLUDE THAT THERE.  SO JUST TO TWO LAST THINGS I THINK HERE SO I MEAN I LOOK HERE AT THE MAP HERE THAT YOU HAVE WITH ALL THE GREEN THERE IT SEEMS THAT THERE'S A LOT OF CITIES THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT HAVE HAVE THIS TO MY WAY MY COLLEAGUE AND ALSO I'M SURE COUNCILMEMBER MARTIN WOULD SAY THIS AS WELL.  YOU KNOW, IT LOOKS LIKE THE MARKET IS REALLY, REALLY HOT FOR THIS JUST IN TERMS OF RAW NUMBERS. THOSE ARE A LOT OF A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT ARE THAT ARE THEY'RE DOING THIS NOW AND YOU MIGHT SAY THAT MINNEAPOLIS AND SAINT PAUL ALSO HAS HOTELS AS WELL.  AND SO I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THE REALLY THE THE IMPACT THAT IT REALLY HAS. I MEAN, YOU KNOW THAT HOSPITALITY SIDE OF IT NOW. I MEAN WE'RE TALKING THE SINGLE AND MAYBE UP TO FIVE I CAN'T I CAN'T IMAGINE A PERSON WOULD WOULD PICK A HOTEL ROOM WOULD WOULD WOULD LOOK AT THIS MARKET AND SO YOU KNOW TO MY COLLEAGUE'S POINT THIS WOULD OPEN UP THE MARKETPLACE FOR ADDITIONAL I UNDERSTAND THE IMPACTS AROUND AROUND AFFORDABILITY AND THAT TYPE OF THING. BUT THEY YOU KNOW, WE COULD CAP THAT RIGHT. I MEAN SO HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHY THESE OTHER CITIES HAVE JUST SAID NO, WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT YOU KNOW AND HOW AND WHEN WE LOOK AT 2016 BEFORE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE JUST HAVE ANYTHING AT ALL, YOU KNOW, AND YOU KNOW WHY THE PROHIBITION AT THAT POINT AND WHAT ARE SOME OF THESE OTHER CITIES SAYING? DO YOU WANT TO COMMENT ANY OF THOSE THINGS THEY SAID MR. MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SO I DIDN'T TALK TO THE CITIES THAT HAD STRICT PROHIBITIONS THERE. I LOOKED AT THEIR ORDINANCE AND IT WAS VERY CLEAR IN SOME OF THE CITIES THAT I TALKED TO IN CONFIRMING THAT DID ALLOW IT. SOME OF THEM INDICATED THAT EVEN WITHOUT A CAP THEY HAD LIKE 735 YOU KNOW AND SO THEY WERE KIND OF LIKE OR THEY WERE SILENT ON SHORT TERM RENTALS ALL TOGETHER THEY KIND OF GENERALLY KNEW WHERE THEY WERE MORE OFTEN THAN NOT WITH LIKE LOWER POPULATIONS OR IT CONVERSATION WITH PEOPLE WHO WANTED TO DO SHORT TERM RENTALS THEY KIND OF GET AN IDEA OF WHERE THEY ARE. ALSO YOU CAN LOOK ON THE PLATFORMS AND KIND OF SEE THAT IN SOME AREAS SOME OF THE MORE OUTER AREAS THERE WEREN'T THAT THERE WASN'T THAT MUCH DEMAND AND SOME OF THE AREAS WHERE THEY THERE'S ACTUALLY ONE AT THE VERY TOP THAT'S ON THIS MAP.  I TALKED TO SOMEONE FROM FROM RAPIDS AND I TALKED TO SOMEONE FROM ANOKA AND THE CONVERSATION WAS PRIMARILY AROUND THE TIME TO ADMINISTER THE PROGRAM AND REGULATE WAS FAR GREATER THAN THE BENEFIT THAT THEY WOULD SEE BECAUSE OF DEMAND AND SO THEY JUST PROHIBITED IT AND IN SOME CASES THEY'RE TRYING TO PUT IN OTHER PROHIBITIONS THEY'RE TRYING TO PROTECT THEIR HOUSING STOCK BECAUSE AVAILABILITY IS ALSO VERY CLOSELY RELATED TO AFFORDABILITY.  VERY LOW VACANCY INCREASES THE COMPETITION FOR WHAT'S AVAILABLE AND DRIVES UP PRICES. SO IF A SHORT TERM RENTAL TURNS OVER OR EXCUSE ME A HOUSING UNIT TURNS OVER TO TERM RENTAL FROM LONG TERM THAT FURTHER RESTRICTS THE MARKET THE AVAILABILITY OF LONG TERM HOUSING TO PEOPLE SO THOSE ARE KIND OF LINKED AND SOME OF THOSE CITIES HAVE CONSIDERED THAT AND JUST SAID THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT TO OPEN THE DOOR TO THAT AND THAT'S KIND OF THEIR PREROGATIVE. THE STATE IS NOT IS SILENT ON SHORT TERM RENTALS. THE DEPARTMENT REVENUE DOES TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW TO REPORT TAXES ON SHORT TERM RENTALS BUT THE STATE DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING THAT SAYS THE CITIES HAVE TO HAVE THEM OR NOT HAVE THEM OR THESE ARE THE RULES THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE IF THEY DO THEM.  SO THAT GIVES A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY TO THE MUNICIPAL ITY TO MAKE DECISIONS ON WHAT THEIR POLICY LOOKS LIKE WHICH INCLUDES THINGS LIKE CAPS, HOW STRICT THEY STRICTLY OR OTHERWISE THEY USE THE REGULATORY TOOLS. SO THEN JUST FINALLY THEY'RE YOU KNOW, JUST TO MAKE THIS QUICK HERE SO WE'VE GOT THE CAP OUT THERE. IS THERE A POSSIBILITY WHERE WE COULD CREATE ZONES WHERE THESE ITEMS ARE WOULD BE ALLOWED IN THE CITY IF WE DID THE THREE OR FOUR AND KIND OF SAID HEY WE WANT TO KEEP IT AROUND THE HOSPITAL CITY AND PUT AN OVERLAY OF OUT THERE TO TO TRY TO KIND OF SAY HERE'S WHERE WE WANT TO KIND OF KIND OF HAVE THAT ARE ACROSS THE STREET FROM A COMMERCIAL AREA OR OR A TYPE OF THING.  IS THAT POSSIBLE DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT OR WE RUN A RUN AFOUL OF SOME OTHER IN OUR MR. MARIN AND COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN I DON'T AS FAR AS I CAN RECALL I COULD LOOK INTO IT BUT I DON'T THINK BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A STRICT RULE RULES ABOUT SHORT TERM RENTALS OR ANY RULES REALLY ABOUT STRICTER SHORT TERM RENTALS EXCEPT WHAT CITIES CREATE FOR THEM AND SOME APPLICABILITY UNDER STATE . I MENTIONED IN MY REPORT ABOUT PUBLIC ACCOMMODATIONS AND FAIR THAT WE I THINK THAT BUTTS UP AGAINST RESOURCES GOING INTO A ADMINISTERING AND COMPLEXITY A POLICY AND THEN AT THAT POINT IT REALLY IMPACTS EFFICACY OF THE POLICY IF IT'S DIFFICULT TO ADMINISTER BUT IT COULD BE DONE.  COUNCILMEMBER CARTER AND THEN COUNCILMEMBER NELSON. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER. THANK YOU. MAYOR, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE WITH THE OPTIONS? THANK YOU.  SO I WILL SAY I AM PRETTY FIRMLY IN THE ONE OR TWO.  I AM VEHEMENTLY OPPOSED TO THREE AND FOUR BECAUSE WE HAVE SUCH A CRISIS BOTH IN TERMS OF AFFORDABILITY AND ACCESSIBILITY WE HAVE HARDLY HOMES ON THE MARKET IN BLOOMINGTON AND THEN WE HEAR ALL THE TIME ABOUT PEOPLE HAVING A HARD TIME BEING ABLE TO AFFORD TO LIVE HERE.  AND I THINK IF WE OPEN UP IF WE DO IF WE WENT TO THREE OR FOUR OPTION, IT'S JUST GOING TO INCREASE DEMAND FROM BUYERS FOR HOUSES IN BLOOMINGTON FOR PEOPLE WHO THIS IS A BUSINESS MODEL FOR THEM THEY BUY UP HOMES AND THEY TOURNAMENT AIRBNBS THEY DON'T LIVE IN THEM, THEY JUST FLIP THEM AND THEY TURN AROUND AIRBNBS AND THAT JUST TAKES ONE HOUSE OFF THE MARKET FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO LIVE IN BLOOMINGTON AND I HAVE I MEAN I'VE A REALLY SERIOUS PROBLEM WITH THAT ESPECIALLY AS WE'RE CONSIDERING THE IMPACT OF YOUTH HOMELESSNESS OF HOMELESSNESS IN THE TWIN CITIES METRO I JUST LOOKED IT UP HAS A HUNT THERE ARE 106,000 UNITS AWAY FROM OUTSIDE THAT'S THE STATE THE STATE IS 106,000 UNITS SHORT OF WHAT IT NEEDS.  THREE QUARTERS OF THOSE ARE IN THE METRO AREA.  LIKE I JUST I DON'T KNOW WHY WE WOULD TURN OVER A BIG CHUNK OF OUR HOUSING SUPPLY FOR SHORT TERM RENTALS WHEN WE KNOW PEOPLE NEED HOMES. SO THAT'S WHERE I AM ON THAT.  SO I'M OPEN NOW TO OWNER PRESENT SHORT TERM RENTALS. I THINK IT IS A NICE WAY FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF EXTRA INCOME TO MAKE MORTGAGE PAYMENT AND SO I'M AGAIN I'M OPEN TO BUT I AM OPPOSED ABSOLUTELY OPPOSED TO THREE AND FOUR THAT'S PREMIER NELSON THANK YOU MAYOR.  APPRECIATE COUNCILMEMBER CARTER'S COMMENTS THERE. I MAY BE NOT QUITE AS ADAMANTLY OPPOSED BUT SOME ARE SIMILARLY OPPOSED AT LEAST 2 TO 4 AND I RECOGNIZE THE HOUSING CRISIS AND THERE'S PROBABLY SOME ZONING CHANGES AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT ARE A DIFFERENT DISCUSSION BUT THE I WAS WITH PATRICK BACK IN THE DAY I WAS ADVOCATING FOR THIS BECAUSE I, I HAVE CHANGED I TRAVEL TRAVEL AND I USE THIS AND BUT THE REALITY THAT I'VE SEEN IN THE SHIFT IN THAT TIME FRAME IS THAT ALMOST EVERY COMMUNITY THAT I AM AWARE OF THAT HAS A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF SHORT TERM RENTALS IS TIGHTENING THEIR RESTRICTIONS. THEY ARE GOING BACK ON THEY DID IT IS NOT WORKING FOR THEIR COMMUNITIES AND REALLY LOOKING AT THAT BECAUSE ONE IS TAKING HOUSING UNITS OUT OF THERE AND SO ANYTHING THAT TAKES OPPORTUNITY AWAY FROM A FAMILY TO LIVE IN A HOUSE IN MY MAKES NO SENSE THAT TAKES FOUR OFF THE BOARD THREE MAYBE BUT IT'S STILL VERY VERY QUESTIONABLE.  I COULD PROBABLY GET THERE BUT THE REALITY IS IS I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO STAY MORE FOCUSED ON HOW WE GET MORE OF THESE 80 USED FOR LONGER TERM WE HAD IN OUR I WAS GOING TO SAY ONE WEEKLY BUT THE BLOOMINGTON THIS WEEK THAT WE'VE NOW GOT TO YEAH SOME OF THE KNOW AND I MEAN WE WE KEPT MAKING CHANGES YOU KNOW I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE OF AN EMPHASIS THAT HELPS THOSE HOMEOWNERS THAT ARE LOOKING TO CREATE INCOME ON A HOUSE THEY OWN SO THAT THEY CAN STAY IN THAT HOUSE. WE'VE HEARD FROM PEOPLE AND I ,I THINK IT'S LEGITIMATE. I MEAN THEY'VE LIVED IN A LONG TIME. THINGS HAVE GOTTEN EXPENSIVE.  THEY'RE LOOKING TO OFFSET SOME INCOME, YOU KNOW, BUT I WOULD RATHER THEM LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, HAVE SOMEONE IN THERE FOR THREE MONTHS, YOU KNOW, WHICH I THINK YOU CAN DO NOW AND THE QUESTION IS WHAT ARE THE RULES? HOW MUCH MONEY DO YOU HAVE TO SPEND TO DO THAT? WHEREAS YOU KNOW, MY ASSUMPTION AND MAYBE I'M WRONG ON THIS BUT SOME OF THESE SHORT TERM RENTALS ARE YOU JUST RENT OUT THE BEDROOM FOR THREE NIGHTS VERSUS HEY IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE FOR THREE MONTHS NOW YOU GOT TO HAVE SEPARATE ACCESS.  YOU GOT TO HAVE YOU KNOW, A SEPARATE KITCHEN. YOU GOT PUT ALL THESE EXPENSES IN THERE. HOW COULD WE BE SOMEWHERE COMPROMISED IN THE MIDDLE? AND I MAY BE MISUNDERSTANDING THE RULES. I WOULD LIKE TO BE MORE FOCUSED ON HOW WE CREATE PLACES FOR PEOPLE TO LIVE WITHIN BLOOMINGTON PROVIDING OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE TO SUPPLEMENT THEIR HOUSING COSTS BY RENTING OUT A PORTION OF THEIR HOME WITHOUT HAVING EXTRAORDINARY EXPENSES TO MODIFY TO DO THAT AND I COULD PROBABLY GET TO RENTING OUT A ROOM OCCASIONALLY. I MEAN WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET THE SUPER BOWL ANY TIME SOON AND IF I RECALL CORRECTLY THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF THIS CONVERSATION CAME FROM. PEOPLE WANTED TO MAKE MONEY DURING THAT TIME AND GOOD FOR YOU THAT TOTALLY SENSE TO ME. I'M NOT DISCOURAGING THAT BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CHANGE ALL OF THE RULES FOR FOR THAT IN MY MIND AND AGAIN I WAS MUCH MORE IN FAVOR OF THIS AT THE TIME BUT I HAVE SEEN THE IMPACT I'VE SEEN SO MANY COMMUNITIES GOING ON THIS I MEAN EVEN THE SMALL COMMUNITY MY PARENTS LIVE IN THEY'RE LOOKING AT PROHIBITING IT. YOU KNOW, THEY LIVE ON A LAKE UP IN NORTHERN MINNESOTA AND IT'S SUCH A PAIN FOR THE COMMUNITY TO TOLERATE AND REGULATE THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT ROLLING IT BACK AND YOU KNOW, JUST LOOK AT ANY MARKET THAT HAS DONE IT.  THEY ARE I'M NOT SAYING GET RID OF IT BUT THEY ARE REALLY SERIOUSLY QUESTIONING IT.  AND THEN TO COUNCILMEMBER CARTER'S POINT OF TAKING THAT HOUSE OF AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A FAMILY TO LIVE THERE AND LOOK GET SOME SOMETIMES ASKING ME RENTAL AND YOU KNOW I SAID THIS MANY TIMES I OWN A RENTAL HOUSE BUT THERE'S A FAMILY LIVING IN IT.  IT'S A PLACE FOR THEM TO LIVE AND AND BE PART OF THE COMMUNITY AND ALL OF THAT. IT'S A LOT DIFFERENT THAN SOMEONE JUST STAYING HERE AND SO AND I'M NORMALLY VERY MUCH A PROPERTY RIGHTS PERSON. THE QUESTION HERE IS DO WE THIS IS A BUSINESS QUESTION DO WE ALLOW A BUSINESS TO OPERATE IN THIS WAY IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD IF WE WEREN'T OPEN UP A AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR SHOP WOULD WE OPEN UP A HOTEL ROOM IN A NEIGHBORHOOD AND THAT THAT'S THE QUESTION I HAVE SO I COULD GET TO TO DR. MARION, WE HAVE TO TELL YOU AND COUNCILMEMBER NELSON, I DO WANT TO CONFIRM THAT IF IT'S SOMEONE RENTS AND IT'S 30 DAYS LIKE A MONTH COMPLETELY ALLOWED NOW YOU GET A RENTAL LICENSE AND YOU CAN DO IT ALSO AND I'M ALSO THE PROJECT LEAD FOR THE MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING STUDY ITEM SESSION THAT WILL BE UPCOMING AND 80 AND ADJUSTMENTS WE CAN MAKE FOR TO USE TO MAKE THEM MUCH MORE FEASIBLE ARE ON THE LIST TO REVIEW I ALREADY HAVE A TON OF THAT I WANT TO PRESENT TO YOU IN ORDER TO MAKE STREAMLINED AND THEN POSSIBLE AND THEN ALSO I AM IN ORDER TO UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT MORE WHAT OPTION TWO WOULD LOOK LIKE IF SOMEONE'S JUST RENTING OUT THEIR ROOM SINCE THIS WOULD BE IN HIS REALM LYNNE CAN DESCRIBE A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT THAT ACTUALLY WOULD LOOK LIKE AS FAR HOW THE CITY WOULD BE INVOLVED IN THAT AND I THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. HELLO COUNSEL.  GOOD EVENING. SO BACK IN TWO BE PRIOR TO 2014 WE USED TO RENT OR ISSUE RENTAL LICENSES TO RENTALS SO IF YOU HAD LONG TERM ROOMMATES IN YOUR HOUSE WE ACTUALLY HAD LIKE 55 OF THEM AT THE TIME AND THEY WERE PRETTY MUCH FOR US TO GO OUT AND INSPECT BECAUSE YOU THE OWNER LIVED THERE AND THEY HAD HOUSEMATES AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT A BEDROOM RIGHT AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT A SHARED KITCHEN AND PROBABLY PROBABLY BATHROOM. SO YOU KNOW, I LOOK AT SHORT TERM RENTALS AS BEING YOU KNOW, RENTING A ROOM FOR A NIGHT OR A WEEKEND OR WHATEVER WHERE THE OWNER LIVES THERE I SEE IT AS BEING KIND OF SIMILAR I DON'T KNOW THAT IT REALLY IMPACTS THE NEIGHBORS OR THAT DIFFERENT THAN HAVING, YOU KNOW, LONG TERM ROOMMATES.  SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT YOU THAT WE DEFINITELY HAVE HOUSES OUT IN OUR COMMUNITY THE OWNER LIVES THERE AND THEY RENT OUT THEY PROBABLY HAVE UP TO THREE ROOMMATES AND OR THEY YOU KNOW MIGHT RENT OUT THE BASEMENT.  IT'S NOT NECESSARILY AN 80 YOU SAY MIGHT RENT IT TO A COUPLE SOMETHING WE DON'T LICENSE THOSE WE'RE NOT REGULATING THOSE CURRENTLY BECAUSE THE OWNER LIVES THERE AND HAS CONTROL OF THE PROPERTY AND I THINK THAT IS KIND OF SOMETHING WE RESTED ON. WE DON'T GET A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT THIS EITHER SO I DON'T I KIND OF SEE IT AS OPERATING KIND OF THE SAME WAY IT COULD BE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AND YOU NOT EVEN KNOW RIGHT AS LONG AS THE OWNER LIVES.  THANK YOU ON THAT .  GUZMAN RIVAS SPECIFIC QUESTION RELATED TO THIS AND THE LIKE YEAH COME ON IN REGARDS TO TO THAT SPECIFICALLY AND IT HAPPENED BE IN MY AREA A FEW HOUSES THAT ACTUALLY QUITE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE LIVING IN THERE AND I KNOW IT'S NOT BEING REGULATED I ALSO HAVE GOTTEN A FEW EMAILS FROM CONCERNED RESIDENTS AROUND THE AREA BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF CARS PARKED IN THE DRIVEWAY SOMETIMES OBSTRUCTING THE SIDEWALK.  SO IT DOES CREATE SOME PROBLEMS IF YOU ALLOW IT WITHOUT ANY REGULATIONS. I MEAN AS A MATTER OF FACT, I THINK I HAVE A COUPLE OF EMAILS THAT SHOW PICTURES OF VEHICLES PARK NOT PROPERLY PARKING IN THOSE HOUSES.  SO YOU KNOW, TO SAY THAT IT DOESN'T AFFECT THE NEIGHBORS AROUND IT I THINK IS NOT A GOOD JUDGMENT ON THAT BECAUSE IT ACTUALLY DOES YOU KNOW, I HAPPEN TO DRIVE BY JUST TO TAKE A LOOK AND SEE IF THEY'RE REAL. I THE REASON I'M SAYING THIS IS BECAUSE IT DOESN'T LOOK GOOD WHEN YOU SEE A NUMBER OF VEHICLES IN THE DRIVEWAY IT'S VALID TO UNDER REGULAR CIRCUMSTANCE AND NOW YOU SEE FIVE VEHICLES PARKED IN THE GRASS OBVIOUSLY.  THE OWNER LIVES THERE AND HE DOESN'T MIND THAT.  THEY ARE VEHICLES PARKED IN THERE ON THEIR LAWN AND THAT'S OKAY I GUESS. BUT HE JUST DOESN'T LOOK GOOD AT ALL.  AND SO YOU KNOW, I WANTED TO SAY I GUESS ALSO CALL COUNCILMEMBER NELSON AND CORDEIRO IN REGARDS TO THEIR OPINIONS ON THIS BECAUSE IT JUST AS IN TO ME I PERSONALLY WOULDN'T RENT TO SOMEBODY THAT I DON'T KNOW TO ALLOW THEM TO HAVE TO LIVING AROUND IN MY HOUSE I JUST FEEL THAT WAY I DON'T KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE PROBABLY FEEL THAT WAY AS ALSO BUT WHEN REGARDS TO THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF HOUSES IN THAT AREA THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY REGULATIONS THEY JUST HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE LIVING IN THOSE HOMES AND IS IT FACT DO HAVE THOSE? COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I DO BELIEVE WE HAVE REGULATIONS ABOUT THE NUMBER OF THAT CAN BE IN A DRIVEWAY AND THAT DOESN'T HAVE AN IMPACT ON WHETHER A HOMEOWNER OR A RENTER OR RENTING A PERSON ROOM IF.  THERE'S TOO MANY CARS IN THE DRIVEWAY BECAUSE I BELIEVE IF I'M CORRECT IT'S FOR RIGHT.  YEAH. SO YOU COULD CALL AND REPORT THOSE PEOPLE.  ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH WILL TAKE CARE OF IT ANY TIME. IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S A RENTAL OR A HOMEOWNER ITSELF. SO WE DO HAVE REGULATIONS AROUND HERE'S WHERE MY HEAD'S AT ON THIS.  TO ME IT FEELS LIKE IF WE HAVE SOMEBODY WHO IS INTERESTED IN RENTING A ROOM IN THEIR HOUSE WHETHER THEY'RE DOING IT FOR THREE DAYS OR THEY'RE DOING IT FOR THREE MONTHS SHOULDN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO US. THAT'S I'M IN SUPPORT OF NUMBER TWO AND I THINK THAT LYNN IS SUGGESTING IT'S NOT GOING TO IMPACT HER ABILITY TO DO THIS AND YOU KNOW, REGULATION DEPENDING ON HOW WE DO IT IF DON'T DO IT TODAY IF I'M I HAVE IN FACT WITHOUT ANY INPUT AT ALL FROM THE CITY I HAD SOMEBODY LIVING IN MY HOUSE OVER THE HOLIDAYS LAST YEAR SO FROM NOVEMBER THROUGH FEBRUARY WAS IN MY BASEMENT AND THEY WERE A FRIEND OF MINE AND THEY NEEDED A PLACE TO LIVE AND I PUT THEM THERE AND I NEVER TOLD ANYBODY AND THEY WERE JUST FINE RIGHT?  WHO CARES? ESPECIALLY IF SHE WOULD HAVE PAID ME SOME MONEY TO BE THERE LIKE THAT HAVE BEEN MONEY THAT WOULD HELP ME THE RENT OR PAY THE MORTGAGE LIKE I'M JUST STRUGGLING WITH.  THE IDEA THAT WE WOULDN'T FOR FOR FOR PEOPLE WHO WOULD I I AM WITH YOU ALL ON AN OWNER NEVER PRESENT PIECE I GET IT I'VE SEEN IT HAPPEN IN MILLIONS OF PLACES WHERE PEOPLE COME IN AND THEY BUY UP THE HOMES AND THEN THEY USE THEM IN THIS WAY.  YOU KNOW I ALREADY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH US LIKE I WOULD PREFER US TO HAVE A CAP ON THE NUMBER OF HOMES THAT ANY ONE ENTITY CAN OWN IN OUR CITY. FRANKLY I WOULD BE LIKE GOOD FOR ME. I THINK WE DO HAVE SOME AND YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG ON THIS LYNN, BUT I DO BELIEVE WE HAVE A COUPLE OF OF OF PROPERTY OWNERS THAT HAVE MORE THAN 20 HOMES THAT THEY RENT OUT THAT WOULD BE WHERE I WOULD SOLVE THIS PROBLEM. RIGHT. IF YOU'RE GOING TO RENT HOMES ,YOU SHOULD HAVE THERE SHOULD BE A CAP ON THE NUMBER THAT YOU AS AN ENTITY OWN. NOW MAYBE THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE TALK ABOUT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THAT CAN LEAD US DOWN A SLIPPERY AS WELL. BUT THAT ALREADY HAPPENS TODAY IS MY POINT. MY POINT IS THAT WE DIDN'T DO A GOOD JOB OF MAKING SURE THAT A BUNCH OF HOUSING STOCK WENT TO RENTERS AS OPPOSED TO WENT TO HOMEOWNERS.  SO YOU KNOW THAT BRIDGE THAT BRIDGE HAS BEEN BURNED MAYBE ALREADY.  SO YOU KNOW WHAT WHAT WHAT DO WE WANT TO DO RIGHT.  HAVING SOMEBODY HAVE THE ABILITY TO RENT OUT A ROOM IN THEIR HOUSE OR RENT THEIR OUT IN THE HOUSE FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS DURING BIG EVENTS SEEMS OKAY TO ME AND I DON'T KNOW WHY WE WOULD OVERREGULATE THAT FROM A PROPERTY OWNER PERSPECTIVE IN MY OPINION. CAN I SUMMARIZE HERE WHAT I'VE HEARD FROM PEOPLE THREE AND FOUR ARE NOBODY IS SUPPORTING THREE OR FOUR WELL EXCEPTION OF WAUSAU. OKAY AND I WON'T SUPPORT THREE OR FOUR. I JUST THINK THAT IS A RECIPE FOR DISASTER IF THE OWNER IS NOT PRESENT AND I HESITATE ON TWO JUST BECAUSE I CAN ENVISION MORE THAN ONE SITUATION WHERE IT'S OWNER PRESENCE WINK WINK AND AND THEN THEY'RE NOT AND THEN WE END UP WITH ISSUES THERE BUT I COULD BE TALKED INTO TOO BUT I AND I WOULD LEAN ALL THE WAY TO THE PROHIBITION JUST BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT ONE THING WE HAVEN'T TALKED WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT A COUPLE OF THINGS. I MEAN IF IF WE DO ANYTHING THERE'S GOING TO BE A STAFF IMPACT. I MEAN MEANS THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT BUT THERE WILL BE A STAFF IMPACT AND THEN THE NEXT TIME BUDGET COMES AROUND AND WE ADD HALF A STAFF MEMBER TO DO THIS WE GET PEOPLE SAYING WAIT A MINUTE, WE CAN'T ADD MORE STAFF MEMBERS. WE SAID YES COULD DO THIS. AND THEN THE OTHER THING THIS NOTION OF OF COMPETITION IN OUR HOSPITALITY INDUSTRY WHICH I'M SURPRISED NO ONE HAS BROUGHT UP I MEAN AND WE'VE HEARD FROM RESIDENTS WELL YOU'RE JUST PROTECTING THE HOSPITALITY INDUSTRY. WELL, YEAH, WE ARE BECAUSE THEY'RE KIND OF A BIG CHUNK OF OUR ECONOMY HERE IN , THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON.  AND I YOU KNOW, I'M I'M COGNIZANT OF THAT AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DO PROTECT THEM IN THAT WAY. SO I MEAN I WOULD LEAN TOWARD ONE I COULD GO TOWARD TWO IF WE WE HAD ENOUGH NODDING HEADS FOR THAT BUT I THINK THREE AND FOUR ARE OFF THE TABLE FROM MY STANDPOINT JUST BECAUSE I THINK WITHOUT OWNERS IN THE HOME IT AS COUNCILMEMBER NELSON SAID IT JUST SETS ITSELF UP FOR FOR BAD THINGS TO HAPPEN.  COUNCILMEMBER THEY MAY THE ONLY POINT I WOULD MAKE IS THAT IF WE WERE GOING TO DO THIS THREE OR THREE MY PREFERENCE BUT THIS IS VERY LOW ON MY TOTEM POLE OKAY IT IT DOESN'T EVEN CREST TOP 25 LIKE I WOULD PREFER TO WORK ON THE MISSING MIDDLE HOUSE PIECE MORE RENTAL HOUSING, MORE HOMEOWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES THAT IS WHAT I WANT TO FOCUS ON. BUT IF WE WERE IN THE CONVERSATION OF LIKE LET'S DO THIS AND MOVE FORWARD, THAT'S WHERE I WILL IN THAT WAY.  SO I'M NOT STUCK IN ONE SPOT BUT IT'S VERY LOW.  SO DO WE HAVE ENOUGH FOLKS? WE HAVE ENOUGH FOLKS COMFORTABLE WITH NUMBER TWO TO TO MOVE FORWARD ON NUMBER TWO? I MEAN ARE WE COMFORTABLE THERE?  I'VE SEEN LOT OF SHRUGS AND HESITANT HANDS AND YEAH, THERE'S YES I AM AND I'M ONLY SEEING ONE SO I THINK WE'RE HEARING HERE IS WE STICK WITH OUR CURRENT POLICY OF PROHIBITION IS THAT IS ARE PEOPLE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT? I MEAN I, I UNDERSTOOD. OKAY.  COUNCILMEMBER CARTER, I'M JUST PROCESSING I MEAN I REALLY AM OPEN TO NUMBER TWO I GUESS I REALLY LIKED WHAT YOU SAY COUNCILMEMBER WHERE I'M LIKE IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF ALL THE THINGS THAT WE COULD DO TO IMPACT HOUSING AVAILABILITY AND AFFORDABILITY AND THINGS THAT YOU HAVE TO PRIORITIZE IN YOUR WORK PLANNING YOUR TIME THIS IS NOT SUPER HIGH ON MY LIST OF PRIORITIES.  WITH THAT SAID I DO LIKE GIVING PEOPLE THE OPTION TO RENT OUT A ROOM IF IT HELPS THEM LIKE FOR THE SHORT TERM IT HELPS THEM WITH INCOME BUT AGAIN IT'S JUST NOT PROBABLY HIGH ON MY PRIORITY LIST SO WELL AND I WILL SAY AS WE'VE BEEN SITTING HERE TALKING I PULLED UP AIRBNB AND I FOUND ABOUT A HALF DOZEN ROOM RENTALS IN BLOOMINGTON SO TO YOUR POINT, COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO, IT'S HAPPENING AND.  SO I THINK IT WE DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO ENDORSE OR SUPPORT IT AS A AS A BUT IT'S HAPPENING AND PEOPLE ARE MAKING EXTRA MONEY OFF OF IT. WELL, QUESTION COUNCILMEMBER LEMON QUICKLY HERE. LET'S GET I GUESS WHERE I'D RATHER SPEND MY MONEY IS ON WHAT COUNCILMEMBER NELSON TALKED ABOUT THAT THOSE 80 USE AND PUT OUR ENERGY ALL IN THERE IF IT IF IT'S HAPPENING WE CAN JUST TURN A BLIND EYE TO IT. YOU KNOW THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT DOING SO CAN WE JUST REMOVE THAT?  WE HAVE FAR TOO MANY OF THOSE THINGS GOING ON IN TOWN RIGHT . INCLUDING LONG TERM PARKING AT OUR HOTELS. SO WHICH IS ANOTHER THING THAT WE PROBABLY SHOULD TALK ABOUT BUT WE EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED IT AND THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO FOLLOW THE RULES WHO WOULD LIKE TO DO THIS AND THEY'RE NOT DOING IT BECAUSE.  WE'VE EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED IT. SO IF WE REALLY DON'T CARE WHICH IS WHAT I'M HEARING PEOPLE SAY WELL LET'S JUST REMOVE THE PROHIBITION AND LET THE MARKET DO THE MARKET THING. WELL I ASKED THE CROWD HERE AND I SAW ONE HAND BUT THAT WASN'T THE QUESTION. THE QUESTION WASN'T THAT AT ALL WHICH I'M JUST SAYING LIKE THE QUESTION WAS WHETHER OR NOT WE WANTED TO GO TO TO OWNER PRESENT GUESTROOM SUITE. I'M REALLY NOT REGULATED AT ALL JUST IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY THERE ARE SEVERAL PEOPLE IN THIS MAP THAT YOU HAVE THAT DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ON THE BOOKS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. IS THAT CORRECT?  MR. MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO THAT IS CORRECT OF COURSE I DON'T KNOW THE IMPACT OF THAT. UNDERSTOOD, UNDERSTOOD.  I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND WE FOR SOME REASON WE PUT IT ON THE BOOKS.  MM HMM.  YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE HERE I THINK THAT WAS FOUNDED ON THE BOOKS. I REMEMBER THE CONVERSATION WE HAD YES.  MM HMM. YEAH.  I DON'T KNOW WHY WE PUT IT ON THE BOOKS, I GUESS IS MY QUESTION. MM HMM.  HOUSE MEMBER CARTER. I MEAN, IF WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY IT WOULDN'T THAT JUST BEFORE WE'D JUST BE ALLOWING WHATEVER. MY POINT IS THAT IT'S ALREADY HAPPENING.  YEAH, IT'S NOT HAPPENING A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT THOUGH. NO, THAT'S RIGHT.  AND SO IF WE GAVE PEOPLE IF IF WELL IT DOESN'T MATTER. WELL WHAT I HEARD COUNCIL WAS I MEAN, I WE ASKED THE QUESTION I'LL ASK IT AGAIN I MEAN DO WE WANT TO STICK WITH ONE OR DO WE WANT TO GO WITH TO DO YOU KNOW ONE OR TWO. MR. FERRARI. MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS I JUST WANT TO CHIME IN ON THE WHETHER IT'S HAPPENING OR NOT . I WOULD PUT IT IN THE CATEGORY OF NUMEROUS THINGS THAT HAPPENED THAT VIOLATE OUR ORDINANCES AND OUR ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH WHEN MADE AWARE. ENFORCE AGAINST THE THE THE ORDINANCES SO WHEN LINDA'S TEAM SEES BECAUSE THEY DO OCCASIONALLY SCAN AND WHEN THEY SEE SOMETHING THEY WILL SEND FRIENDLY NOTICES AND THEN LESS FRIENDLY IF THEY DON'T RESPONSE RIGHT. YES MAYOR OR MR. VERBRUGGE WE DO DO ENFORCEMENT AND YOU CAN LOOK AT SOME OF THESE SITES IT'S KIND OF THEY DON'T GIVE YOU THEIR ADDRESS. THEY MIGHT NOT GIVE YOU ANY OF THE OUTSIDE. SOMETIMES IT'S DIFFICULT TO TRACK DOWN BUT WE RARELY SEE YOU KNOW WE PERIODIC WE RUN ALL THE PLATFORMS AND WE RARELY SEE MORE THAN A HANDFUL AND IF WE CAN'T READILY FIND WE'RE NOT GOING TO PUT A TON OF EFFORT TO TRY AND LOCATE IT . SOME PEOPLE PLAY GAMES WITH US TO THAT YOU KNOW LIKE WELL YOU KNOW THEY HAVE IT ALL BOOKED FOR A MONTH SO IT'S YOU KNOW A 30 DAY RENTAL. I I THINK THE THING TO BE COGNIZANT ABOUT IS IN THE TRANSIENT LODGING THERE ARE SOME THINGS WE DON'T WANT AND THOSE ARE LIKE MORE LIKE RENTING BEDS, CRASH PADS,  THINGS THAT COMPLETELY TAKE HOUSING UNIT OFF THE MARKET AND YOU KNOW, DO HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE AND WE'VE BEEN ENFORCING PRETTY HEAVY HANDEDLY ON THOSE.  THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER NELSON. AND LET'S LET'S GET TO WRAP UP ON THIS. WE'VE STILL GOT TWO BIG THINGS TO TALK ABOUT YET TONIGHT. YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO JUST MAKE ONE DISTINCTION ALSO BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME OF THESE THAT ARE IN LIKE MULTIFAMILY AND WE HAVE AN OFFICE ISSUE AND WE LOOK AT THAT MISSING MIDDLE WITH THIS THAT ALL BE PART OF THAT CONVERSATION FOR SOME MULTIFAMILY PROPERTIES AS AN EXAMPLE IF YOU GO UP LIKE ON THE NORTH SHORE TO SUPERIOR SHORES SOMEBODY OWNS THAT BUT YOU RENT IT. IT'S IN THE POOL YOU CALL IT MAKE A RESERVATION AND THAT'S SOMEBODY'S WHAT THEY OWN THOSE TYPES OF THINGS IN MULTIFAMILY WHERE THEY WOULDN'T OTHERWISE BE SOMEWHERE THAT PEOPLE LIVED . SO ANYWAYS I THINK WE'RE ON THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND JUST STICKING WITH WHERE WE'RE AT SO THANK YOU THANK YOU.  WE HAVE CONSENSUS ON THAT AND STICKING WHERE WE'RE AT ONE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.  THANK YOU MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.  ITEM 5.3 ON THE AGENDA MAXIMIZING SALES TAX REVENUES THE IMPACT OF GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS FOR BLOOMINGTON FORWARD PROJECTS.  BERGMAN WELCOME.  THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL IS LORIE AND SHE JOINING US NOW. OH, SHE'S ONLINE. THERE SHE IS. THERE SHE IS. SHE HAD THE GOOD SENSE NOT TO GO OUT IN THE WEATHER TONIGHT . I DON'T THINK THAT I DON'T THINK THAT'S TRULY WHAT'S MOTIVATING HER BUT STILL GOOD SENSE.  GLORIA, I HAVE CLICKER AND I'M READY WHENEVER YOU ARE OKAY. MARIANNE CASTLE ELIZABETH BERGMAN FROM BAKER TILLY ARE GOING TO SPLIT PFIZER AND I ARE GOING TO WORKING THROUGH SOME OF THE WE KIND OF TESTED OUT DIFFERENT SCENARIOS OF HOW WE WOULD ISSUE OR OUR THREE TRANCHES OF DEBT FOR BLOOMINGTON I GARDEN FOR THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER AND FOR NINE MILE CREEK CORRIDOR ONE. ELIZABETH, DO YOU WANT TO MOVE TO THE NEXT FIVE FOLKS? NO, IT'S A IT'S IT'S TOUCHY YET IT WANTS US TO MOVE AHEAD SO THAT WE CAN MOVE ON TO NEXT SUBJECT. SO WHAT WERE YOU PLANNED IS 115 MILLION OF THE CAPITAL PROJECTS FOR THOSE THREE PROJECTS AND THEY WERE BASED OFF OF 12 AND A HALF MILLION OF ANNUAL REVENUE EXPECTED BASED THE 2024 COLLECTION TODAY.  SO JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT WE HAVE COLLECTED THERE TODAY IT'S APRIL AMOUNT CAME IN ON JULY 10TH MAY'S NUMBERS CAME IN ON MAY 10TH OR AUGUST 10TH AND IF WE LOOKED AT JUST THE APRIL NUMBERS, THOSE APRIL NUMBERS CALCULATED OUT TO 12 AND A HALF MILLION AND THE OTHER WOULD BE YEAH WE LOOKED AT THE MAY NUMBERS THAT CALCULATE SO YOU KNOW JUST MULTIPLYING IT BY 12 TO JUST UNDER 14 MILLION IN NUMBERS WOULD COME IN ANNUALLY.  SO JUST AVERAGING YOU KNOW FROM WHAT WE RECEIVED SO FAR WE'RE AT ABOUT 13 TWO BUT WE BASED EVERYTHING ON THAT HUNDRED AND 55 MILLION AT 12.5 AND ELIZABETH MIGHT GO INTO A LITTLE BIT OF HOW WE'RE GOING TO PREPARE FOR OUR CREDIT REPORTING CALL ON THAT.  BUT THERE'S A LONG HISTORY OF JUST SALES TAXES BY CITY IN THE STATE OF MINNESOTA.  SO THE CREDIT RATING COST WE CAN PROVE THAT HISTORY OF SALES TAXES IN BLOOMINGTON OUR PIECE IS JUST ANOTHER HALF PERCENT. ON TOP OF THAT SO THERE'S ALREADY A HISTORY OF THAT WE WERE HOPING ON THE EXTENSION OFFICE REPORTS TO HAVE THAT SHE BY KNOW THEY ARE STILL REWORKING SOME OF MY QUESTIONS SO HOPEFULLY I WILL GET LOTS OF ANSWERS LOOKS THAT WAY AND YOU WILL HAVE THAT REPORT IN BLOOMINGTON THIS WEEK BY THE END OF THE WEEK SO MOVING ON TO THE NEXT ONE I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO LISBETH FOR THE NEXT COUPLE.  THANKS. THANKS VERY MUCH. SO YES, WE ARE IN NOVEMBER.  VOTERS IN BLOOMINGTON OBVIOUSLY VOTED IN THIS NEW SALES TAX AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE FINANCE TO PREPARE FOR THESE PROJECTS AND HOW TO FINANCE THEM FOR A OF YEARS NOW. BUT I THINK THE MAIN THE REALLY GOOD NEWS , THE REVENUE THAT IS EXPECTED TO BE GENERATED FROM THE SALES TAX ON A VERY CONSERVATIVE BASIS YOU JUST HEARD ABOUT THAT IS SUFFICIENT IN ORDER TO REPAY THE BONDS NECESSARY TO DO THESE PROJECTS. SO REVENUES SUFFICIENT FOR DEBT SERVICE ARE ALWAYS A GOOD PLACE TO BE.  SO WITH THAT WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT HOW IT IS THAT WE CAN ISSUE DEBT IN ORDER TO FINANCE THE PROJECTS. AND THERE'S TWO WAYS THAT YOU CAN DO THE SALES TAX REVENUE BONDS. ONE IS THAT YOU CAN HAVE A SALES TAX REVENUE BOND THAT'S ONLY BY SALES TAX REVENUES. SO IF FOR SOME REASON SALES TAX REVENUES WERE TO COME IN LESS THAN WHAT WAS PROJECTED IN BASED ON THIS YEAR'S REVENUES AND WHAT WE'RE GETTING FROM THE U OF M EXTENSION, YOU WOULDN'T BE OBLIGATED TO MAKE ANY MORE PAYMENT THAN WHAT SALES TAX REVENUES WERE OR COMING IN . THE OTHER ALTERNATIVE TO PUT A GENERAL OBLIGATION PLEDGE ON THERE SO THAT WOULD BE LIKE THE REGULAR BONDS YOU ISSUE WHERE YOU SAY WE'RE GOING TO ISSUE THESE BONDS AND THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON STANDS BEHIND THESE WITH OUR FULL FAITH AND CREDIT. SO SALES REVENUE BONDS SALES TAX REVENUES EXCUSE ME WERE INSUFFICIENT TO COVER DEBT SERVICE THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON WOULD NEED TO LEGALLY FIND A WAY TO REPAY THAT DEBT. SO THOSE ARE FUNDAMENTALLY THE TWO DIFFERENT CHOICES WE HAVE AND YOU KNOW, SALES TAX REVENUES, REVENUE BONDS ARE KIND OF NEW AND ACROSS MINNESOTA I MEAN CONTINUALLY NEW SAINT PAUL FOR INSTANCE HAS HAD THEM FOR A COUPLE DECADES. BUT MOST CITIES ARE GOING WITH A GENERAL OBLIGATION PLEDGE. BUT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY ALSO JUST DO STRAIGHT UP SALES TAX REVENUES THE ADVANCED THOSE THAT MEMBERS OF YOUR COMMUNITY HAVE SAID YES WE'LL THIS SALES TAX BE PUT IN PLACE AND EXPECTS THAT THE DEBT REPAID BY THE SALES TAX REVENUES. I WANT TO STRESS AGAIN THAT IN BOTH OF THESE SITUATIONS THERE'S ONE THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE SECURITY WHICH IS WHAT YOU'RE PLEDGING TO BONDHOLDERS AND THE REPAYMENT STREAM AND IN BOTH CASES A STREAM AS THE SALES TAX REVENUES BECAUSE WE BELIEVE THERE'S SUFFICIENT REVENUES. SO BUT THERE ARE A COUPLE DIFFERENCES. THE MAIN THING IT WAS SALES TAX REVENUES BECAUSE THOSE ARE VARIABLE AND A LITTLE BIT UNPREDICTABLE UNLIKE PROPERTY TAXES, THE MARKET AND THE RATING AGENCIES THAT THE AMOUNT OF REVENUES YOU COLLECT IN EXCESS OF THE DEBT SERVICE YOU'RE GOING TO PAY. SO THAT'S CALLED COVERAGE.  FUNDAMENTALLY IF YOU HAVE $1 OF DEBT SERVICE THAT YOU'RE PAYING THEY WANT TO SEE MAYBE LET'S CALL IT 160 CENTS COME IN . SO A DOLLAR 60 COME IN ONE TIME SIX TIMES COVERAGE SO THAT MAKES IT SO THAT YOU IT'S A LITTLE HARDER TO LEVERAGE THE SALES TAX BECAUSE YOU CAN'T DO A DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR THE WAY YOU COULD IF YOU DID A GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND SO THAT'S IN THIS CHART HERE OF THAT COVERAGE REQUIREMENT IF YOU DO A SALES TAX REVENUE BOND YOU'LL NEED TO COLLECT MORE THAN YOUR DEBT SERVICE.  WE SAY 1.6 TIMES IS THE TARGET HERE AND I CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT THAT'S WITH REGARD TO RATING AGENCY METHODOLOGIES AND ALSO OUR UNDERSTANDING OF THE MARKET. IF YOU DID GENERAL OBLIGATION PLEDGE IF YOU HAVE ONE TIMES THAT'S FINE FOR THE MARKET AND FOR THE RATING AGENCIES BECAUSE THE EXPECTATION IS IF THE REVENUES DON'T COME IN STRONGLY THEN THE CITY WILL WILL MAKE THE DIFFERENCE.  COUPLE OF OTHER DIFFERENCES BETWEEN SALES TAX AND GENERAL OBLIGATION ARE THE EXPECTED RATINGS. SO OBVIOUSLY BLOOMINGTON HAS THAT THREE TRIPLE A'S, THAT VERY ENVIABLE CREDIT RATING.  SALES TAX REVENUE BONDS WOULD BE RATED BASED ON A DIFFERENT METHODOLOGY.  AGAIN, THE REAL MAIN DIFFERENCE IS THOSE REVENUES ARE VARIABLE UNCERTAIN AND OUR EXPECTATION WITH THAT 1.6 TIMES COVERAGE WOULD BE A DOUBLE-A MINUS BASED ON THE METHODOLOGIES AND OUR UNDERSTANDING OF THE MARKET. SO KIND OF A COUPLE OF DIFFERENCES THE WAYS THAT YOU CAN FINANCE THE BONDS. SO WE LOOKED AT ALL OF THE OPTIONS REALLY ABOUT EACH OF THOSE WAYS AND HOW WE COULD PUT A PLAN THAT ALLOWS YOU TO DO THREE THINGS. NEXT SLIDE THREE THREE THINGS THAT WE REALLY LOOKED AT AS THE GOALS OF OF OUR FINANCING PLAN. ONE IS TO MAXIMIZE THE PROCEEDS TO HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO DO YOUR PROJECTS. TWO IS TO MINIMIZE THE USE OF THE GENERAL OBLIGATION PLEDGE BECAUSE OF THAT OBLIGATION THAT THE CITY IS MAKING AND TO THE DEGREE TO WHICH YOU DON'T NEED TO PUT TAXPAYERS PLEDGE ON THE LINE. WE WANT TO MINIMIZE THAT. AND THEN THREE IS TO TRY TO BE RESPONSIVE TO CHANGES IN RATES AND SALES TAX COLLECTIONS. AS I SAID, WE'VE BEEN MONITORING THIS FOR COUPLE OF YEARS AND INTEREST RATES OVER THAT TIME HAVE CHANGED. SO IT'S IT'S THAT WHILE INTEREST RATES HAVE CHANGED, THE ENVELOPE IS STILL ENOUGH SUPPORT THE PROJECTS AND THAT'S PARTLY I THINK BECAUSE THE FINANCE OFFICE HAS BEEN EXCEPTIONALLY CONSERVATIVE AND THE APPROACH THAT WE'VE TAKEN AND PERSONALLY TAKEN AND LOOKED AT INTEREST RATES IN A IN A VERY PESSIMISTIC KIND OF WAY WHICH IN THIS CASE IS A GOOD THING.  SO SO THOSE ARE THE THREE PRIORITIES THAT WE HAVE PUT IN PLACE IN TERMS OF THINKING ABOUT HOW DO WE PUT TOGETHER A FINANCING STRATEGY FOR THE BONDS? SO WE'LL NEED TO DO A COMBINATION OF GENERAL OBLIGATION PLEDGE AND SALES TAX REVENUE PLEDGE. SO WE WANT TO MAXIMIZE THE SALES TAX REVENUE PLEDGE THAT 1.6 TIMES. SO ISSUE AS MUCH SALES TAX REVENUE BONDS AS WE CAN WHILE STILL SHOWING 1.6 TIMES COVERAGE AND THEN DO THE REMAINDER OF THE DEBT AS A GENERAL PLEDGE.  AND THAT BREAKS OUT TO ABOUT 36% WITH GENERAL OBLIGATION PLEDGE AND THEN 64% WITH PURE SALES TAX REVENUE BONDS. SO THE IDEA WOULD BE THE BLOOMINGTON ICE GARDEN ISSUE THAT'S COMING THIS FALL.  WE WOULD DO AS PURE SALES TAX REVENUE BONDS AND THEN THE 2025 ISSUE FOR THE COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS WE DO A COMBINATION OF EACH. AND THEN THE THIRD ISSUE AND 2026 WE DO STRAIGHT GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS. THE GOOD NEWS ABOUT THAT IS THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO WATCH THOSE SALES TAX REVENUES IF WE HAVE SOME ACCUMULATION OF SALES TAX REVENUES THAT PERIOD WE MAY HAVE TO ISSUE LAST DEBT FOR THE 2026 ISSUE AND ALSO THE INTEREST RATE WELL WILL HOW WE HOW WE CAN BREAK OUT THE 25 ISSUE BETWEEN SALES TAX AND GENERAL OBLIGATION. SO THAT'S THAT WAY WHICH IT'S RESPONSIVE TO WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE MARKET BOTH IN TERMS OF SALES TAX AND IN TERMS OF INTEREST.  SO IT'S REALLY A COMBINATION AND AS A SENIOR STRUCTURE SO THE FIRST REVENUES THAT COME IN WILL REPAY THE SALES TAX ONLY BONDS AND THEN ANY REVENUES THAT ARE LEFT OVER AFTER THAT WILL PAY THE OBLIGATION BONDS, THE SUBORDINATE BONDS. SO THAT'S THAT IS THE RECOMMENDATION AND THE PLAN IS MOVING ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE. THERE WAS SOME REFERENCES ABOUT READING RATINGS AND THE RATING IMPLICATIONS AND WE DID SOME ANALYSIS LOOKING AT WHICH RATING AGENCY WE SHOULD GO WITH FOR THIS DEAL AND HOW TO MAXIMIZE THE RATING VIS A VIS COVERAGE AND OVERALL.  ALL RATING AGENCIES AT THIS POINT HAVE TO PUBLISH METHODOLOGY SO THEY PUT FORWARD THIS IS HOW WE'RE GOING TO RATE YOUR BONDS. SO USE THE METHODOLOGIES FROM S&P AND MOODY'S AND LOOKED AT WHICH ONE WAS MORE FAVORABLE. YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A LITTLE CHART ON THE BOTTOM LEFT. WE JUST SOME SENSITIVITIES IF YOU HAD TWO TIMES COVERAGE SO $2 OF REVENUE FOR EVERY DOLLAR OF DEBT SERVICE YOU HAD OR IF WE JUST HAD TIMES COVERAGE AND THEN 1.6 IN THE MIDDLE KIND OF A SWEET SPOT THERE YOU CAN SEE THAT FOR S&P WE CAN GO TO 1.6 TIMES COVERAGE AND STILL BE AT A DOUBLE-A MINUS WHEREAS AT MOODY'S WE WOULD GO TO AN A AT THAT LEVEL.  SO OVERALL THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY WITH S&P YOU CAN OF HAVE COVERAGE AND A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT A LITTLE LOWER AND IT'S A LITTLE LESS SENSITIVE. SO THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO DO S&P PE AS A RATING HERE AND THERE'S SOME INFORMATION HERE ABOUT THE CATEGORIES WHEN S&P RATES SALES BONDS THEY LOOK AT REALLY THREE THINGS ONE REVENUE VOLATILITY SO THAT WAS SOMETHING I WAS TALKING ABOUT BEFORE HOW STABLE REVENUES ARE IN GENERAL SALES TAX REVENUES ARE A VERY WIDELY ACCEPTED IN THE MARKET AND THOUGHT TO BE PRETTY STABLE AND THE COVERAGE IN THE LIQUIDITY AS WELL AS ECONOMIC FUNDAMENTALS AND WE ALL KNOW BLOOMINGTON'S FUNDAMENTALS ARE JUDGED BY THE RATING AGENCIES VERY POSITIVELY.  AS I MENTIONED BEFORE BECAUSE THIS IS A NEW SALES TAX THERE'LL BE A LIMITED TRACK RECORD. WE'LL NEED TO BUILD A CASE THE STRENGTH OF BLOOMINGTON'S ECONOMY AND THE PREDICTABILITY OF SALES TAX REVENUES AND HISTORIC REVENUES THAT WERE POINTED OUT IN THE FIRST SIDE BY MOSCONI SCHOLER WILL BE ONE THING THAT WE CAN POINT TO WHILE YOU HAVEN'T BEEN ACTUALLY TAXING THOSE SALES WE CAN TRACK THOSE SALES SO THEY CAN SEE THE STRONG SALES IN BLOOMINGTON AS WELL AS LODGING TAX AND ADMISSIONS TAX THAT GIVE SOME IDEA ABOUT THE ECONOMIC VITALITY OF THE AREA AND WE'LL BE WORKING TOGETHER PUT TOGETHER A FORMAL RATING PRESENTATION FOR S&P TO HAVE THEM UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS WHAT THE GOALS OF THE PROJECTS ARE AND HOW VITAL AND DYNAMIC THAT ECONOMY IN BLOOMINGTON.  SO I THINK WITH THAT I'LL GIVE IT BACK TO YOU.  YEAH. YOU WANT TO ADVANCE THIS LINE TO THE NEXT ONE? YEP, I SURE WILL.  SO RIGHT NOW THE PROJECT FOR THE BLOOMINGTON ICE GARDEN THE DOCUMENTS WERE RELEASED LAST WEEK AND.  THEY SHOULD BE BACK IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS AND EVALUATED BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR AUTHORIZATION. WE WILL ALSO A FORMAL AUTHORIZATION TO BOND FOR THE BLOOMINGTON ON THE 30TH COUNCIL MEETING. WE WOULD HAVE OUR CREDIT RATING CALLED THE WEEK OF OCTOBER SEVEN. WE WOULD SELL THE BONDS ON 28TH AND THE PROCEEDS WOULD COME IN PRETTY MUCH A MONTH LATER AND THEY FOUND NO IMPROVEMENT IN OUR START WOULD BE REPAID DURING THE ACCOUNTING PERIOD OF YOU KNOW BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR AND I BELIEVE ACTUAL ONE PROJECT ACTIVITIES WOULD START STILL THIS YEAR TO UTILIZE THE FUNDS ARE COMING IN FROM THE BOND PROCEEDS. I KNOW THAT DIDN'T TOUCH ON I MEAN WE WON'T GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE AS WE'RE GETTING INTO DISCUSSION THAT SEVERAL YEARS BACK WHEN WE CAME UPON YOU KNOW CAME TO THE NUMBER OF 155 MILLION. A LOT OF THAT HAD BEEN LISTED AS  GENERAL OBLIGATION SALES TAX BOND THE CALL FOR THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT AND FOR THE CITY OF OURS TO LIMIT OUR EXPOSURE TO GENERAL OBLIGATIONS BECAUSE IF YOU KNOW SHOULD THAT HAPPEN AGAIN, WE WANT TO BE AS PROTECTED AS POSSIBLE FROM THAT TYPE OF ACTIVITY.  SO THE PERCENTAGE OF USING PORTION AT GEO AND THE MAJORITY OF A PORTION AS SALES TAX BONDS IS OUR CURRENT STRATEGY. AND AS ELIZABETH AS MARKET CONDITIONS AND INTEREST RATES CHANGE OVER THE NEXT 12 MONTHS FOR THE BLOOMINGTON COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CARE COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER, THAT PERCENTAGE COULD BE REDUCED EVEN MORE. SO WE'LL TRACK THAT SALES TAX IS COMING IN , WE'LL TRACK THE INTEREST RATES. WE'LL SEE WHAT THE MARKET APPETITE FOR THINGS THEN HOPEFULLY WE CAN EVEN REDUCE THE GEO PORTION OF THAT'S EVEN MORE A YEAR FROM NOW AND YEARS FROM NOW. SO WITH THAT ELIZABETH AND I ARE HERE FOR.  ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE? I'M WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING FOR HAVE A BOND STRATEGY FOR THESE ON SALES TAXES.  WELL THANK YOU THANK YOU BOTH. IT'S VERY WELL THOUGHT OUT, VERY WELL CONSIDERED AND APPRECIATE TIME AND EFFORT THAT WENT INTO THAT BECAUSE IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE AND GOOD GLAD.  I'M GLAD THERE ARE PEOPLE LIKE YOU TO THINK ABOUT THINGS LIKE THAT BECAUSE GOODNESS KNOWS I COULDN'T. MR.. QUESTION THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR BIRDMAN OR, OUR CFO. WE PUT A LOT OF PRIDE IN OUR TRIPLE A RATING AND IT'S PROBABLY GOOD TO CLARIFY JUST BECAUSE THE SALES TAX BONDS HAVE A RATING THAT IS NOT TRIPLE-A RATED DOES NOT AFFECT THE CITY'S POSITION, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT A DIFFERENT CREDIT IN THE MARKET. SO THE RATING AGENCY WILL CONSIDER THE OVERALL DEBT OF BLOOMINGTON SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE GENERAL OBLIGATION THEY WILL REALIZE THAT THEIR SALES TAX REVENUE BONDS BUT WE DON'T ANTICIPATE IT WOULD HAVE ANY IMPACT ON THE TRIPLE-A RATING.  AND THEY SAID SOMETHING IMPORTANT THEY SAID THE CREDIT AGENCIES OBVIOUSLY CONSIDER BLOOMINGTON'S OVERALL DEBT AND GIVEN THESE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE DOING NOW AND PROJECTS THAT WE'RE DOING WITH OUR PARK SYSTEM MASTERPLAN AND LOOKING AT SOME OTHER BIG PROJECTS GOT COMING UP ARE WE ARE WE NUDGING CLOSER TO A POSSIBILITY OF NOT BEING IN FAVORABLE POSITION WITH OUR CREDIT AGENCIES BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF DEBT THAT THE CITY HAS? WELL, TAKE THE FIRST STAB LORIE AND I'M HAPPY TO HAPPY TO NUANCE IT AS AT YOU AS YOU WISH. MAYOR AND COUNCIL WHAT IS GENERALLY COMING IN THE CITY I'VE ALWAYS BEEN IN THE CITY FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. WE HAVE MODEL DEBT SERVICE SCHEDULES FOR THOSE AND EVEN THOUGH OUR DEBT RATIO TO INCREASE BECAUSE WE ARE PUTTING CAPITAL PROJECTS OUT THERE FOR THE FLEET GARAGE OR FIRE STATION OR PARK IMPROVEMENT, OUR DEBT RATIOS ARE STILL WELL BELOW A LOT OF OUR NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES. WE HAVE A VERY LOW DEBT RATE RIGHT NOW AND WE ARE JUST PUTTING IN NEEDED INFRASTRUCTURE THE NEXT FIVE OR TEN YEARS AND UNLESS SERIOUS ENVIRONMENTAL CONTROLS OUTSIDE OF BLOOMINGTON COUNCIL AND STAFF REALM HAPPEN, OUR CREDIT RATING SHOULD CONTINUE TO BE IN TRIPOLI. I'D SAY THAT THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS HIGHLIGHTED IN THE CREDIT OPINION ABOUT SOMETHING THAT'S VERY WELL MANAGED FROM BLOOMINGTON. GOOD THAT'S AND I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT MR. VERHEUGEN THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AND IF I MAY AND WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE ELIZABETH'S COMMENT THERE BECAUSE THAT IS AND AND HATS OFF TO OUR CFO HER DEBT MODEL IS SOMETHING TO BEHOLD WHEN YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO SEE THE SPREADSHEET HERE.  THE THING I WOULD ADD TO WHAT LAURIE RESPONDED IS THAT WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT CONTROLS IN TERMS OF THE AMOUNT DEBT THAT WE CAN TAKE ON. THERE'S A STATUTORY LIMITATION AND THERE IS A CHARTER LIMITATION AND SO YOU'LL RECALL THAT FOR EXAMPLE WITH OUR PARK SYSTEM MASTER PLAN WE ARE ISSUING CHARTERED GEO BONDS BASED ON THE AUTHORITY THAT IS GRANTED WITHIN OUR CITY CHARTER AND THERE'S A LIMITATION ON THAT AND WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT CLOSE TO BUMPING UP ON THAT NUMBER CURRENTLY AND WE'RE NOT CLOSE TO BUMPING UP ON OUR STATUTORY LIMIT EITHER SO IT SAFE TO SAY LAURIE AND IT'S VERY SAFE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION I APPRECIATE IT. COUNCIL QUESTIONS ON THIS COMMENTS ALL RIGHT.  WELL VERY GOOD. LOOKING FORWARD TO A DISCUSSION AS IT PROCEEDS HERE IN THE ULTIMATE ISSUANCE AND SEE WHERE WE ARE IN LATE OCTOBER . OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR SO MUCH. THANK YOU. GOODNIGHT. THANKS FOR TAKING EVERY STORM. THANK YOU.  NEXT ON OUR AGENDA COUNCIL WILL MOVE TO ITEM 5.4 OUR CITY COUNCIL POLICY AND ISSUE UPDATE AND I WILL KICK US OFF JUST TALKING ABOUT OUR COUNCIL LISTENING SESSION THIS EVENING. WE HAD FOUR SPEAKERS THIS EVENING BRIAN WOLF TALKED ABOUT THE EDUCATIONAL VALUE OF THE NINE MILE CREEK CORRIDOR AND CENTRAL PARK AND BROUGHT US THROUGH AN INTERESTING DISCUSSION THERE SALLY.  THIS WAS IN FRONT OF US AGAIN THIS WEEK TALKED A BIT ABOUT LIGHTING A DARK FRUIT IN THE PARKING LOTS BUT ALSO THEN ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT SOME POLICE REPORTS FROM I BELIEVE SIX, FIVE OR SIX YEARS AGO AS TO WHY HER NAME APPEARED IN ALL THOSE POLICE REPORTS OR NOT REPORTS ACTUALLY JUST CALL POLICE CALLS BACK AND FORTH REGARDING REGARDING THE CALL THAT TOOK PLACE. WE HEARD FROM AND HER CONCERNS ABOUT THE FIBER OPTIC INSTALLATION IN HER NEIGHBORHOOD AND AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE WE DO HAVE A NUMBER OF THOSE AND WE WERE TRYING TO ADDRESS THOSE AS WE CAN IN TERMS OF SOME OF THE THE UNDER SOME OF THE WORK QUALITY THAT IS THE STANDARDS THAT WE ARE SETTING HERE IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO ADDRESS THOSE AND THEN PAT GREEN BACK HER TALK TO AGAIN ABOUT THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER. WE HAD A GOOD CONVERSATION ABOUT THE ALLOCATION OF SPACE, THE COST AND THE EVENTUAL COST OF USE OF CENTER BY THE DIFFERENT INTEREST GROUPS THAT WERE OBVIOUSLY INTERESTED AND AND AND WILL BE PART OF OUR HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER COMMUNITY. SO THOSE WERE OUR SPEAKERS AT THE COUNCIL LISTENING SESSION. ONCE AGAIN A GOOD SESSION HEARD A LOT OF GOOD THINGS FROM FOLKS. I DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING THIS EVENING ON MR. VERRILLI OR ANYTHING TO ADD. MR. MAYOR, I NOT COUNSEL ANYTHING TO ADD OR ANYTHING TO ADD TO OUR COUNCIL POLICY AND ISSUE UPDATE I AM SEEN SHAKING HANDS.  ALL RIGHT THEN COUNSEL, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO ITEM 5.5 AND I MENTIONED THIS EARLIER WHEN WE WERE TALKING AGENDA. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO CLOSED SESSION TO DISCUSS OUR FIRST STATION ACQUISITION DISCUSSION.  STATE LAW SAYS THAT CITIES AND PUBLIC ENTITIES CAN MOVE INTO CLOSED SESSION FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS NOT VERY MANY BUT A VARIETY INCLUDING PERSONNEL DISCUSSIONS OR NEGOTIATIONS OR NEGOTIATIONS ABOUT POSSIBLE PURCHASES AND SO ON. AND SO THIS IS ONE OF THOSE OPTIONS AND ONE OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES TO MOVE INTO CLOSED SESSION AND WILL BE DOING THAT. WE WILL WE WILL OFFER A RESOLUTION TO MOVE INTO CLOSED SESSION GO INTO CLOSED SESSION AND WE WILL ASK ANYBODY NOT ASSOCIATED WITH THIS DISCUSSION TO LEAVE THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS.  WE WILL THEN HAVE A DISCUSSION WE WILL NOT TAKE A VOTE IN CLOSED SESSION.  WE WILL COME OUT OF CLOSED SESSION AND WE WILL ADJOURNED THE MEETING THEN DID I GET THAT RIGHT? MY MANAGER SHOWED ME REMEMBERS YES YOU DID. THE ONE THING I WOULD ADD IS THAT THE WEBEX WILL GO IF ANYONE'S WATCHING IT I'M NOT THERE BUT IF ANYONE IS LISTENING IN THE WEBEX WE'LL SORT OF GO QUIET FOR A WHILE AND THEN WILL WHEN WE COME BACK IT'LL COME BACK ON TO ADJOURN THE MEETING. VERY GOOD. AND THEN IF THERE'S ANY ACTION TAKEN OUT OF THE CLOSED SESSION THAT WILL BE TAKEN IN OPEN IN THE OPEN SESSION.  SO WITH THAT COUNSEL, I'M GOING TO MOVE THAT WE ADOPT A RESOLUTION DIRECTING THE CLOSURE OF THIS PUBLIC MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND GOING TO A CLOSED SESSION MOTION AND THE SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER TO GO INTO CLOSED SESSION NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO WE WILL HEAD INTO CLOSED SESSION AND WE WILL AGAIN RETURN TO THE AIR ONCE WE ARE MOVING INTO OPEN SESSION TO CLOSE THE MEETING TONIGHT  O THE RECORD PLEASE.  OKAY COUNSEL WE ARE BACK IN OPEN SESSION WE JUST A MOMENT DOWN COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS TO RETURN QUICKLY HERE HERE HE COMES COUNSEL I WOULD MOVE THAT WE TAKE ACTION CONSISTENT WITH A DISCUSSION IN A CLOSED SESSION SECOND MOTION AND THE SECOND FOR THE COUNCIL TO TAKE ACTION WITH THE DISCUSSION IN THE CLOSED SESSION.  NO FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSE THE MOTION CARRIES 701 FINAL THING IF WE COULD DO TONIGHT CHIEF SEAL IF YOU COULD GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THE MEGASTORE THAT CAME ROLLING THROUGH HERE REALLY WELL. WAS IT REALLY A MEGA STORM THE TWO THINGS I WANT TO ADDRESS IS THERE THERE WAS DAMAGE IN THE COMMUNITY MOST OF IT WAS DOWNED TREES AND POWER LINES LARGE SEVERAL STREETS BLOCKED WITH DOWNED TREES PUBLIC WORKS HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED AND THEY'RE OUT TRYING TO CLEAR THOSE. XCEL ENERGY IS OF COURSE IS IMPACTED IN A WIDE AREA SO I CAN'T SAY HOW QUICKLY THOSE DOWNED LINES WILL GET REPAIRED BUT THEY'RE WORKING ON THOSE AS WELL. NO INJURIES THAT WE KNOW OF I AM SURE THAT ONCE THE LIGHT DAY COMES THAT THERE MAY BE VERY POSSIBLE THAT THERE'S SOME STRUCTURAL DAMAGE BUT NOTHING THAT WAS CALLED IN TO US FOR STRUCTURAL DAMAGE. SO RIGHT NOW EVERYTHING WE'VE SEEN IS TREES TREE ON A CAR AND A FEW OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT BUT NO INJURIES. THE OTHER THING I LIKE TO SAY IS MANY OF YOU PROBABLY HEARD THE SIRENS GO OFF AND WAS NOT PLANNED. THE SIRENS WENT OFF BASED UPON A NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ALERT THAT SAID THERE WAS THE POTENTIAL FOR 70 MILE AN HOUR WINDS. SO THE SIRENS SHOULD NOT HAVE GONE OFF BASED UPON THAT INFORMATION.  THE SIRENS TO GIVE YOU A HINT AUTOMATICALLY GO OFF IF THERE IS A TORNADO TOUCHED DOWN OR TORNADOES FUNNEL CLOUD SIGHTED OR IF STRAIGHT LINE WINDS HIT 80 MILES AN HOUR, THEY AUTOMATICALLY GO OFF WHEN STRAIGHT LINE WINDS ARE APPROACHING 70 MILES AN HOUR. WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO THE COUNTY HAS THE ABILITY TO SEND THE ALERT OUT AND ALERT THE SIRENS BASED UPON TONIGHT THERE MEADOWS MAISONETTE WEATHER STATIONS THAT THEY HAVE LOCATED AROUND THE COUNTRY WHICH BLOOMINGTON HAS ONE REGISTERED ONLY ABOUT 50 MILE AN HOUR WINDS WHICH IS STILL PLENTY STRONG WINDS AND THEN OBVIOUSLY ENOUGH TO KNOCK DOWN TREES BUT IT WOULD NOT HAVE GENERALLY NECESSITATED A A SIREN ALERT. JUST SEE YOU KNOW, THEY ARE TRYING TO FIGURE WHY THE SIRENS ALERTED BASED UPON THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MESSAGE. WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS IS THAT THE SOFTWARE THAT RUNS THE SYSTEM IS WHAT LIKES TO CALL LEGACY SOFTWARE. SO IT'S OLD AND THAT'S PART OF THE PROBLEM THAT'S ACTUALLY SET TO BE REPLACED I THINK IN 2026. BUT THAT MIGHT HAPPEN SOONER NOW AND WITH THAT I THINK WE'VE JUST HAD A LOT OF RUNS BUT THAT'S NORMAL FOR STORMS AND A FAIR AMOUNT OF HEAVY RAIN FOR A WHILE AND LIGHTNING STRIKES BUT NO LIGHTNING STRIKES ON STRUCTURES THAT WE KNOW OF SO ON SUNNY QUICK QUESTIONS FOR THE CHIEF.  THANK YOU. WELL, THANK YOU AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR FOLKS FOR THE WORK THEY'RE DOING TONIGHT AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO THROUGH THE NIGHT I'M SURE SO.  THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNSEL. THAT CONCLUDES OUR BUSINESS WITH NO FURTHER ITEMS I WILL LOOK FOR A MOTION TO ADJOURN SO MOVED WE HAVE A MOTION SECOND SECOND TO ADJOURN NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSE WE ARE ADJOURNED ZERO.  THANK YOU MUCH FOR THE DISCUSSION TONIGHT COUNSEL THANK YOU TO STAFF THANKS TO EVERYBODY WHO TUNED IN THIS EVENING AND THE HOPE EVERYBODY MADE IT THROUGH THE STORM OKAY THANKS