>> GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE, WELCOME TO OUR APRIL LEON COUNTY COMMISSION MEETING. THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS FOR BEING HERE. AT THIS TIME I WILL ASK COMMISSIONER MINOR IF HE WILL INTRODUCE OUR INDICATOR AT THIS TIME. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH MADAM CHAIR, HONORED TO HAVE ELDER DR. CHRIS A. BURNEY , THE PASTOR OF THE BAPTIST CHURCH. >> THANK YOU. PROVIDING THE INVOCATION. >> A GRACIOUS AND ETERNAL FATHER, THANK YOU FOR YOUR MANY BLESSINGS THAT YOU HAVE BESTOWED UPON US, AS WE COME DOWN TO HANDLE THE BUSINESS OF THIS GREAT COUNTY, WE ASK FOR YOUR PRESENCE, LEADERSHIP AND GUIDANCE, IN OTHER WORDS, THOUGHTS AND DEEDS. IN JESUS' NAME WE PRAY, AMEN. >> AMEN. >> THANK YOU REVEREND BERNIE -- BURNEY . >> CAN YOU LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. >> [ PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE ] >> THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR PARTICIPATING IN OUR INVOCATION, THEY CAN AGAIN REVEREND FOR THE VERY TIMELY INVITATION, WE ARE VERY EXCITED TO HAVE WITH US TODAY ARE REPRESENTATIVE, ALLISON, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM FOR SPECIAL PRESENTATION. >> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR, THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS, I'M HERE TO PRESENT YOU WITH THE PROCLAMATION, THE ROAD ATTACHMENT RESOLUTION THAT WAS PASSED, HONORING THE COMMUNITY AND THE BELOVED COMMUNITY ON THE BICENTENNIAL THIS YEAR, THE TALLAHASSEE CITY, LEON COUNTY, AND THE ESTABLISHMENT OF OUR STATE GOVERNMENT WAS HERE, IT IS A PROFOUND HONOR TO BE ABLE TO CELEBRATE THE RICH HISTORY THAT WE HAVE HERE TOGETHER. 1821, U.S. TERRITORY IN A FEW YEARS LATER, AND THE COUNCIL THE TERRITORY, APPOINTING THE COMMISSIONERS, SELECTING THE MOST ELIGIBLE CONVENIENT SEAT OF GOVERNMENT FOR THE TERRITORY, PRIOR TO THAT THEY WOULD HAVE INSTEAD OF COMMITTEE MEETINGS AND HEARINGS AND IN SESSION IN PENSACOLA TO PENSACOLA OR SAINT AUGUSTINE, TROUBLED BY A BOAT TO DO THOSE MEETINGS. THEY DECIDED THAT IT WAS DANGEROUS AND CUMBERSOME AND TIMELY, AND DECIDED TO SEND TO COUNSELORS TO FIND AN ELIGIBLE SPOT, THOSE LEAVING THEIR HOMES FROM PENSACOLA AND THE OTHERS FROM SAINT AUGUSTINE, I WAS DR. WILLIAM SIMMONS, AND JOHNNY WILLIAMS OF SAINT AUGUSTINE, AT THE TIME WERE THE TWO MOST POPULOUS PLACES IN FLORIDA. WHO THEN MET IN THE MIDDLE. AND WHERE THEY MET WAS THEY FIRST SET UP A CAMP IN ST. MARK'S, JUST GOT THE PERFECT LOCATION, AND WHERE THEY FOUND WAS US, CLOSE TO A SMALL CASCADE WE NOW KNOW AS CASCADE PARK, WHICH IS THE JEWEL OF OUR PARK SYSTEM RIGHT HERE IN TALLAHASSEE. IN MARCH 1824, PROCLAIMING THAT THE LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL WOULD HOLD THE NEXT MEETING, AND MAY 2024, ONE SQUARE MILE, AND FEDERAL LAND, PROVIDED BY AN ACT OF CONGRESS, WHICH BECAME THE CAPITAL CONGRESS, WHERE WE ARE TODAY AND THE CITY OF TALLAHASSEE. IN DECEMBER OF 1894, THEY WERE DRAWN, THE BOUNDARIES, 200 YEARS LATER, THIS IS A MONUMENTAL YEAR FOR ALL OF US HERE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MADE MY ABILITY TO PRESENT THIS IN THE HOUSE WAS THAT ONLY AS I WAS PREPARING THE REMARKS OF LOOKING INTO THIS WONDERFUL HISTORY OF OURS, THAT IT OCCURRED TO ME THAT THE LAST LATER TO MEET NEIL CAPITAL WAS 1977, WHEN MY HUSBAND, BARRY RICHARD, WAS A MEMBER OF THE HOUSE, AND HERE I AM IN THIS YEAR HONORING HER BICENTENNIAL, BACK IN THAT OLD CHAMBER CONDUCTING THE PEOPLE'S BUSINESS. 50 YEARS LATER. HOW WONDERFUL IS THAT, MIGHT NOT BE QUITE 50, I COULD GO ON AND ON ABOUT THE WONDERS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT I TREASURE, AND I LOVE, WE ARE THRILLED WITH NEW PEOPLE, TALENTED TREES WOMEN IN , WORLD-CLASS UNIVERSITIES AND ARTISTS AND AUTHORS AND RENOWNED SCIENTISTS, CIVIL RIGHTS LEADERS, AND CHAMPIONSHIP SPORTS TEAMS. I'M GOING TO STOP AND SAY A NOTE OF GRATITUDE, AND ABLE TO BRING THIS WONDERFUL PROCLAMATION TO ALL OF YOU, WITH COMPLETE UNANIMOUS SUPPORT FROM THE LEGISLATURE. SO THANK YOU. SPEAK YOUR REPRESENTATIVE. THEY DESERVE A ROUND OF APPLAUSE. >> [ APPLAUSE ] >> AND SUCH A TREAT, TO SPEAK TO THE WONDERS OF THE GOOD THINGS THAT ARE HERE, SO THANK YOU. >> ABLE TO GET A PICTURE? >> ABSENTLY, AND HAD THE HONOR OF BEING IN THE HOUSE THIS YEAR, WHEN REPRESENTATIVE READ THE RECLAMATION TO THE CITY IN THE COUNTY, VERY AWESOME, SHE WAS OF COURSE BRILLIANT, AS SHE IS TODAY, AND COMMISSIONER, >> THANK YOU LEGISLATURE FOR MAKING THIS HAPPEN, AS YOU SAID, HIS SPECIAL COMMUNITY, WE ARE BLESSED WE ARE BLESSED TO BE HERE IN THE FORTUNE OF SERVING CONSTITUENTS THAT LIVE HERE, AN AMAZING COMMUNITY THAT WORKS VERY HARD, AND I WANT TO THANK YOU, LEON COUNTY HELPING TO SERVE THE FLORIDA HOUSE AND WE APPRECIATE THAT, EVERY TIME I WORK WITH YOU, WE ARE GANGBUSTERS, STUFF DONE AT THE CAPITAL, VERY FORMAL CHALLENGES, KIND OF AN CRAZY ENVIRONMENT TO WORK IN BUT YOU GET THINGS DONE, THANK YOU FOR THE RESOLUTION AND UNANIMOUS SUPPORT, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THE PEOPLE OF LEON COUNTY. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. >> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR, I WANT TO ECHO THE SENTIMENT, YOU DO SUCH AN AND ASHLEY INCREDIBLE JOB REPRESENTING US AT THE NEXT LEVEL OF THE STREET, ANY CONSIDERATION TO ASKED TO TAKE A COMMEMORATIVE BOAT TRIP TO TALLAHASSEE? >> I'M NOT GOING TO GET ON A VERY SLOW BOAT, I CAN DO THAT. [ >> UNANIMOUS SUPPORT FOR SUCH A PROCLAMATION, AND ACROSS THE STREET, THEY MAY NOT ACT LIKE IT, THEY REALLY DO LOVE US HERE AT LEON COUNTY, AND APPRECIATE THE HISTORICAL AND YOU DO SUCH A GOOD JOB AND WE ARE VERY PROUD OF YOU, YOU FELT ME ON SO MANY ISSUES. >> THANK YOU, A COOL PROCLAMATION. >> THE SHEER NUMBER OF LEGISLATORS AND THE HOUSE AND SENATE, AND IT'S EXTREMELY PROFOUNDLY TOUCHED. BY BEING BACK IN THE CHAMBER, AND LISTENING TO THE HISTORY OF HOW WE GOT HERE. IT'S VERY MEMORABLE TO THEM, THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO COME TO ME AND SAID, ONE MEMBER WHO HAS TURNED OUT, FROM GAINESVILLE, SAID TO ME THAT DAY, IT IS GOING TO BE THE THING I REMEMBER FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE. SO THIS IS THE IMPACT THAT WE HAVE , AND THERE ARE SOME THE OF MY COLLEAGUES WHO HAVE TALKED ABOUT HOW MUCH THEY ENJOYED BEING HERE DURING THE SESSION. SO THAT IS GOOD. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. ANYBODY ELSE? PROBABLY REPRESENTATIVE , IF WE WOULD ASK YOU TO MAYBE COME UP AND JOIN US FOR A PICTURE, I THINK THAT WOULD BE OKAY. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONERS. >> LET'S GIVE HER ANOTHER HAND. >> [ APPLAUSE ] >> THANK YOU AGAIN. OKAY. I WOULD LIKE TO CALL ON COMMISSIONER WELCH FOR SPECIAL RECOGNITION TO ESTHER JOSEPH SIMON, A VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTER OF THE YEAR FOR THE ENTIRE STATE OF FLORIDA, WHAT AN HONOR. ALL RIGHT. >> [ APPLAUSE ] >> MADAM CHAIR, PRESENTING THE PROCLAMATION FOR MR. SIMMONS, VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT AND AN OUTSTANDING EMPLOYEE, TALKING ABOUT LOCAL AND STATEWIDE, I'M GOING TO READ A PROCLAMATION. WHEREAS JOSEPH SIMMONS HAS A COMBINED SEVEN YEARS OF VOLUNTEERING WITH WITH LAKE JACKSON AND BRADFORD VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT, AND WHEREAS JOSEPH IS THE FIRST TO VOLUNTEER FOR ALMOST EVERY SPECIAL ASSIGNMENT AND RUNS MORE CALLS THAN 95% OF OTHER VOLUNTEER MEMBERS, AND WHEREAS JOSEPH CARES ABOUT THE TEAM AT BRADFORD HILL FIRE AND RESCUE AND OFTEN CALLS JUST TO ON HIS VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTERS, AND WHEREAS JOSEPH TRULY CARES ABOUT THE COMMUNITY AND IS OFTEN THE FIRST TO HELP A RESIDENT RETURNING FROM THE HOSPITAL WHO NEEDS EXTRA HELP GETTING INSIDE INTO VOLUNTEER AND JOSEPH SIMMONS, AND VOLUNTEER FAR FOR THE YEAR, 2024, VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTER OF THE YEAR IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. JOSEPH SIMMONS , WE ARE HONORING YOU, APRIL 9, 2024, LET'S GIVE A ROUND OF APPLAUSE. SPEAKERS PUTTING THE FIREFIGHTERS, AND ACHIEVEMENT, WE THINK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO AND YOUR WILLINGNESS TO STEP UP AND SERVE OUR COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, ALL THROUGHOUT THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS AND SOME OF THE FAR STRESSED AREAS, SERVICES AT THE HEART OF WHAT WE DO, AND MR. SIMMONS, YOU EMBODY THAT, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE A FEW WORDS THAT WOULD BE GREAT. >> I WOULD LIKE TO THINK EVERYONE FOR COMING OUT TODAY. THIS IS TRULY A BLESSING. I THINK ALL OF MY FELLOW BROTHERS AND SISTERS, AT CFD, THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SUPPORT, AND ALWAYS REMEMBER, IF YOU EVER NEED ANYTHING, DON'T HESITATE TO CALL US. >> THANK YOU MR. SIMMONS. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> IF YOU STOOD THERE FOR A MINUTE, MR. SIMMONS, IF YOU STAND THERE MINUTE, COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE? >> MR. SIMMONS, I JUST WANT TO ECHO, THANK YOU, YOU CLEARLY DESERVE THIS AWARD, AND BEING SUCH AN EXAMPLE OF A VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTER ON A VOLUNTEER BASIS STEPS UP FOR WHAT OTHERS ARE PAID FOR TO MAKE SURE THAT YOUR NEIGHBORS AND IN ARE OFTEN UNINCORPORATED AREAS HAVE VALUABLE RESOURCES IN THEIR TIME OF NEED, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU. THANK YOU IS NOT ENOUGH, I JUST WAS A THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE. THE FIRST OF ALL I APOLOGIZE MISPRONOUNCING YOUR NAME. AND I THINK IT MIGHT BE SPELLED WRONG ON THE AGENDA. BUT CONGRATULATIONS. WE CERTAINLY VALUE ALL THE SERVICE THAT YOU PROVIDE, AND WE CERTAINLY HONOR YOU, AS VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTER OF THE YEAR, FOR THE ENTIRE STATE. WHAT AN AMAZING HONOR, THANK YOU FOR PROTECTING OUR HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE RIGHT HERE IN LEON COUNTY, WE APPRECIATE YOU. OKAY, LET'S GIVE THEM ANOTHER ROUND OF APPLAUSE. >> [ APPLAUSE ] >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER WELCH FOR PRESENTING THAT AS WELL. MR. COUNTY OF ILLUSTRATOR, DO WE HAVE ANY CITIZENS HERE FOR NON-AGENDA ITEMS? >> WE HAVE TWO SPEAKER CARDS, TO BE HEARD ON CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. THE FIRST STANLEY SIMS. >> STANLEY SIMS , 13 2011 DID -- AVONDALE WAY. AS YOU KNOW, IN ABOUT TWO MONTHS AGO, PULLED ME TO THE SIDE AND SAID, SAYING THANK YOU, FOR ONE, STICKING UP FOR THE WOMEN UP THERE WITH MEN. THEY SAID WHAT YOU MEAN MA'AM? AND WE HAVE GOT BUT ONE ELECTED WOMAN AND ONE ELECTED OR APPOINTED OFFICIAL, HAD TO HOLD THE ROAD. AND SHE SAID THAT, AND STRICTLY INTEGRITY AND SHE THANKED ME, AND HOUSTON JABBER, GLANCING UP FOR YOU. AND I TOLD THE STORY OF ME, AND THIS CAPACITY, HOW SHE WAS DRESSED DOWN IN SHORTS, AND SAW ME IN THAT SAME PUBLICS, SHE WENT BACK AND SHE HAD TO PLAY BOARD GAMES AND THOSE GUYS, SHE SAID THEY THINK WE ARE PLAYING BOARD GAMES AND SHE SAID FOR THE RECORD, MR. SIMMONS, WE WERE PLAYING BOARD GAMES. WHAT IS MY POINT? >> GOD IS GOD AND HE WON'T CHANGE. EVERYONE WILL SEE GOD IN HIS OWN PARTICULAR WAY. AND ALL OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS FROM VARIOUS AGES, RELIGIOUS BACKGROUNDS, OR WATCHING YOU. AND SHE SAID, AND ONE THING THAT WAS CLEAR ON THIS. AND THAT MOVED TO THIS, SHE SAID, I THINK COMMISSIONER CUMMINS KNOWS THE OLD : RULE, AND SHE SAID, IN IT WANT TO DO. IT'S HOW YOU DO IT. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER CUMMINS, I EXPLAINED TO HER THAT I CAN GIVE IT IS, AND OWED THEM SOME FLAVORS. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND DEMONSTRATOR, >> MAX EPSTEIN, THANK YOU ALL, I DID WANT TO BRING UP ONE CONCERNING ISSUE AND THESE DAYS, ONE OF THE VERY FIRST THINGS THEY SAY, AFTER WE'VE TALKED TO THEM, HAVE YOU SPOKEN WITH THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS, AND SOME FORM, AND THAT HAPPENED A COUPLE OF TIMES, WITH OUR MEETINGS BEFORE THIS, AND SO IT SEEMS TO ME TO BE A TROUBLING PRECEDENT BECAUSE AS FAR AS I KNOW, THAT IS NOT IN ACCORDANCE WITH SUNSHINE LAW. THERE ISN'T SUPPOSED TO BE DISCUSSION BETWEEN THE COMMISSIONERS. MAYBE I CAN BE WRONG BUT BUT IT IS SOMETHING I'VE NOTICED, IT IS NOT NEW, AND IT IS HAPPENING MORE MORE FREQUENTLY, AND IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DISCUSS THESE ISSUES ONE-ON-ONE WITHOUT DISCUSSING WITH THE OTHER FOLKS ARE THINKING. I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT TO YOU ALL'S ATTENTION. >> THANK YOU MR. EPSTEIN. AND ADMINISTRATOR? >> THE ONLY ITEMS, ALSO A SPEAKER CARD IN ON ITEM NUMBER 13. AND CERTAINLY MADAM CHAIR, YOU CAN TAKE THAT UP AFTER I INTRODUCED THE ITEM, AND ITEM 13, HAS BEEN PULLED BY COMMISSIONER PROCTOR FROM CONSENT. >> IN UNDER THE CONSENT AGENDA HAS BEEN PULLED. AND IN THE JUST THE CONSENT AGENDA. EXCLUDING ITEM 13. THE MOTION TO ACCEPT . AND MOVE THAT, AND COMMISSIONER WELLS, LET IT E KNOWN BY SAYING AYE. >> ITEM 13, THE STATUS OF DAY, RELATED TO LIGAMENTS AND ACTION PLAN APPROVED BY THE BOARD IN OCTOBER, AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE, WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER, AS I MENTIONED. MADAM CHAIR. >> YES PLEASE. >> MAX EPSTEIN. >> ALL RIGHT YOU ALL, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR HAVING ME HERE, I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT LAKE MUNSON. THANK YOU TO THE FOLKS WHO CAME OUT TO OUR MEETING, REALLY APPRECIATE IT. AND I WANTED TO BRING UP BILL PROCTOR'S SUGGESTION TO HOLD IT IN THE JOINTS OF THE COUNTY WORKSHOP AND THEY COULD START FROM HERE, AND START BACK IN, AND THE BLUEPRINT BOARD, AND HEAR FROM THEM, AND THE ACTUAL GENDER, AND SEPTEMBER 2, OPENING THE GATES WOULD SEND IT , SEDIMENT STREET DOWN , THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED. WAS NOT CLEAR, ONLY 2 FEET OF VISIBILITY, THAT MEANS ALL OF THE SEDIMENT THAT EVERYONE WAS CONCERNED ABOUT, AND SUSPENDED, THE CONVERSATIONS, FOR THE MALIK HALL, THREE OF THEM DID NOT WANT TO REOPEN THE GATES, THE ONE TO SEE THAT ON THE LAKE, AND TO KEEP IT THERE. A DIFFERENT DISAGREEMENT BETWEEN WHAT WE ARE HEARING ON YOUR AGENDA ITEM AND WHAT HAPPENED, RIGHT NOW THERE IS AN UNKNOWN AMOUNT OF SEDIMENT THAT WAS STIRRED UP BY THAT HURRICANE, PCB AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT IS BEEN FLUSHED DOWNSTREAM, INSTEAD OF KEEPING THE GATES CLOSED. I JUST SPOKE WITH ANDY STRICKLAND, THE FW SEE'S INVASIVE PLANT MANAGER, ON THIS PROJECT. AND HE SPOKE ABOUT THE PLAN TO CLOSE THE GATES AND MAY, SLOWLY. THE COUNTY WANTS TO CLOSE THEM SLOWLY, 1 FOOT AT A TIME, HE SAID THAT'S NEVER BEEN DONE IN NORTH FLORIDA, NORTHWEST FLORIDA, AND THE BEST WAY IS TO JUST CLOSE THE GATE AND LET THEM FILL UP. WE ALSO ASKED AT THE SCIENCE ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO TALK ABOUT THIS EXTENDED DRAWDOWN THAT WENT THROUGH THE WET SEASON. WE ASKED FOR ANY SORT OF EVIDENCE THAT THIS HAD BEEN DONE BEFORE. AND WHAT THE BENEFITS ARE, AND WE WERE TOLD THAT THERE IS NONE. AND EXTENDED DRAWDOWN AND CLOSING OF THE GATE SLOWLY IN THE EXPERIMENT. IT HAS NOT BEEN PROVEN. AND OTHER THAN HOLD A MEETING WHERE WE CAN DISCUSS THE STUFF. I LIKE TO HEAR ABOUT HOW WE LET THE SEDIMENT AND CLOSING THOSE GATE SLOWLY, GOING TO CREATE A WARM BODY OF WATER THAT IS VERY SUSCEPTIBLE. AND WHERE WE CAN TALK ABOUT THESE THINGS, IN AN OPEN FORUM, AND INVITE ALL THE PARTIES. AND HAVE A REAL DISCUSSION. AND I NEED YOU ALL TO PICK UP THE PHONE, AND CALL FW SEE AND HAVE INTEREST, >> THANK YOU MR. EPSTEIN. MR. COUNTY MISTREATED. >> WE CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. IN COMMISSIONER PROCTOR. >> AND HEARING THE CONVERSATIONS, AND THEN SAW AND ON THE NEWS YESTERDAY, AND TALKING ABOUT THE $800,000 THAT WOULD BE DEPLOYED TO CLEAN UP AND LAKE JACKSON. I KNEW THIS MATTER WAS HERE. AND GREAT LAKE JACKSON, DOES NOT DESERVE THE 800,000, IT'S JUST THAT WE DO OWE A CONVERSATION. AND THEN THE TOWNHALL MEETING THIS YEAR, AND TREMENDOUS PRESENTATION, AND THE COMPELLING ARGUMENT. AND THE COMPELLING THIS OF IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT COMPETITIVE. AND THIRD-PARTY STUFF AND GETTING TOLD BY STAFF. COMMISSIONERS THAT WE CAN GET, AND AT THE TABLE, COMMISSIONERS, AND POLICIES, GETTING STAFF, AND ALL OF THAT. AND JACKSON FROM OUT OF NOWHERE. IN LEAVE THIS IN ABEYANCE. AND JUST DANGLING. AND AND AND KEEP LOVING ON THE ISSUE, AND A PART OF THE MOTION, AND PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, TO THE SITDOWN. AND WAS NOTHING CALL. >> HAVE A WORKSHOP. >> THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY. WE HAVE A WORKSHOP WITH THE PARTIES, AND THEIR FOLK, AND ARE FULL, NOT TRYING TO ACCUSE, REALLY TRYING TO GET A SOLUTION OF WHAT BEST CAN WE DO. THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION AND >> AND ORGANIZED A WORKSHOP. AND THEIR SECOND. TO COMMISSIONER PROCTOR'S MOTION. AND IF HE CAN ADDRESS IT, AND WHAT WE HAVE. AND A PRELIMINARY REPORT, AND >> THE BOARD HAS THE PREROGATIVE TO SCHEDULE A WORKSHOP, IN DESPERATE AND ON ANY ISSUE YOU LIKE, FOR ME STAFF STANDPOINT, HAPPY TO FACILITATE THAT AND WHOEVER YOU WOULD LIKE IN ATTENDANCE. YOU BEEN OVER THIS ISSUE, EXHAUSTIVELY OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS, AS DEMONSTRATED IN YOUR AGENDA ITEM, AND THE TECHNICAL INFORMATION HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO YOU , AND YOU HAVE APPROVED AN ACTION PLAN WHICH WE ARE ACTIVELY WORKING ON, IT IS A VERY COMPREHENSIVE ACTION PLAN. SO EVERY THREE MONTHS, -- SIX MONTHS, IN THE INTEREST OF TRANSPARENCY WE HAVE BEEN GIVING YOU THESE UPDATES AND WE CONTINUE TO HEAR SOME OF THE SAME ISSUES, AS WE ATTEMPT TO IMPLEMENT THE PLAN, BY ALL MEANS THE BOARD TO DO THAT, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, MAYBE TO DETERMINE WHETHER YOU HAVE A WORKSHOP YOU WANT HAVE A WORKSHOP. AND YOU MIGHT HAVE, RELATED TO THE ITEM BEFORE YOU. >> THANK YOU MR. COUNTY MISTREATED. >> LAKE MUSSON HAS BEEN AN ISSUE, 18 MONTHS CUSTODY MONTHS, AND WORKING THE OFFICERS, EXTENSIVELY WITH STAFF. AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO KNOW ME IN THIS ROOM, I'M NOT HESITANT TO AND ON ANOTHER THEN CONFIDENTLY AND SAY THAT I'M VERY COMFORTABLE WITH LAKE MUNSON AND THE CURRENT ACTION PLAN. AND THE COMMITMENT TO EXTEND THE DRAWDOWN ME FIRST, AND BASICALLY WE STABILIZE AFTER THE DRAWDOWN, AND -10, EFFECTIVE, AND UNDER THE DAILY MAXIMUM LOAD. WHEN I DON'T WANT TO DO, AND MY COLLEAGUES, AND I DON'T OF YOUR FROM THE CURRENT PLAN, IN FULFILL ONE PLAN OR THE NEXT, JUST RUNNING IN CIRCLES. AND MY RECOMMENDATION WAS TO ACCEPT THE STATUS RECOMMENDATIONS WITH ONE CHANGE OF HAVING THE NEXT STATUS REPORT COME BACK IN 12 MONTHS, VERSUS 24 MONTHS. THAT WAY GIVES SOME OF THE VEGETATION TIME IN THE LATE TO DIE OFF, AND TIME FOR THE LAKE TO KIND OF RE-STABILIZE AND SOME OF THE FISH AND WILDLIFE, AND HAS THIS WORKED, AND THE NEED TO PIVOT AND HAVE A WORKSHOP. >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER, WAS THAT A SUBSTITUTE MOTION. YOU JUST INDICATED? >> AND MOTION ON THE FLOOR IN THE SECOND. >> WE CAN DO ALL OF THAT. >> A COMMITMENT TO HAVE A WORKSHOP. NOT GOING TO KILL EVERYTHING THAT CAN BE AUGMENTED. PRIVY TO A SENSE OF SCIENCE DATA, WHICH THIS BOARD IS NOT SEEN, THE GAME WARDEN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT, I'M NOT SAYING THE STAFF DOES NOT KNOW, BUT WHEN YOU HAVE A BATTERY, AND IN LAKE MUNSON. IT WOULD BE COMPELLING TO ME. AND AS POLICYMAKERS, AND THOSE ARE SMART PEOPLE, AND TRUST THE STAFF, AND THE FILTER THROUGH HER STAFF, AND A COMMITMENT SOME TIME AGO TO TALK, AND I THINK WE SHOULD WALK OUR TALK, THAT IS WHY I AM ASKING ALL OF THOSE THINGS. THIS INCLUDES THE SITDOWN, NOT POINTING FINGERS, AND ANY NOVEL STUFF, BUT OUR STAFF GETS THERE INFORMATION FROM THE GAME BOARD, THEIR DESPERATE THE GAME WARDEN, THEY NEED TO HEAR, WHO KNOWS, ALL OF THE EFFORTS IS TO IMPROVE AND MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN MAXIMIZE THE POTENTIAL TO LIVE AGAIN. I DON'T THINK WE ARE PUTTING TOO MUCH TIME IN OVER PUTTING TOO MUCH EFFORT, INTO THE RESOURCE OF LAKE MUNSON, IS PERSONALLY FEEL, I RESPECT WE ARE PUTTING THAT MUCH TIME, TO DO ENTITY WITH THAT. AND MY THOUGHT IS WE SHOULD. >> ME I. AND COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE, THEN COME BACK TO YOU. >> AND THE MOTION, THE WORKSHOP, IN THE REPORT, AND THERE IS NO SUPPORTING THIS IS BECAUSE AND IT MAKES SENSE TO ME WITH THE INFORMATION, THE REASON I SUPPORT THIS IS THE IDEA OF THE JOINT WORKSHOP WITH THE OTHER ENTITIES, WE'VE WORKED WAS CONSTITUENT -- WITH CONSTITUENT GROUPS, CONFLICTING WITH WHAT WE ARE DOING, THE STAFF SEEMED TO VERIFY FOR ME AND INVITING THE WORKSHOP, IF THE ENTITIES ACCEPT, THEY WILL JOIN ENTELLUS AND VEGAS TELL US, IF THEY DON'T OBJECT WE WOULD JOIN A WORKSHOP AND SO WE ARE WILLING TO MEET AND WE WOULD LIKE TO MEET AND GET GOING AND WE WILL FIND OUT WHAT OTHERS ARE INDICATING BUT I SUPPORT THE PLAN AS IT IS, SUPPORTING THIS BECAUSE IT CONTINUES TO ALLOW THE PLAN. >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER CABAN THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR, I THINK THERE IS A DISCONNECT. MADAM CHAIR ? MR. DEMONSTRATOR, WE MET, I MET WITH STAFF IN YOUR OFFICE, AND THE INFORMATION YOUR STUFF IS GATHERING, RELATED TO THIS ITEM, AND WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT WERE SOME OF THE INFORMATION IS COMING FROM, SOME OF THE INFORMATION IS COMING OUT OF OUTSIDE SOURCES, AFTER BP, NOT TO SAY NO TO HAVE A WORKSHOP IF IT IS THE BEST FURNACE AT MY DISTRICT, BUT I DON'T WANT TO HAVE THEM AS WE START MAKING IT MORE DIFFICULT, WITH THE CURRENT ACTION PLAN WE HAVE IN PLACE. >> AND HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE. AND ACCURATELY REFLECTING COOPERATION AND COORDINATION WITH THE STATE PARTNERS, EVERY DAY, WITH THESE FOLKS, JUST LIKE THE SAME TECHNICAL STAFF PEOPLE AND IN POSITIONS OF RESPONSIBILITY, WITHIN ALL THE STATE AGENCIES, WE ACCURATELY REFLECT ALL OF THAT, IS NOT TO SAY PEOPLE WITHIN THE STATE AGENCIES, THOUSAND PEOPLE, THOUSANDS OF DIFFERENT OPINIONS, CONVENE THEM ALL FOR THE PURPOSE OF BUILDING A ROAD ON FUD ISSUES, ACCURATE INFORMATION ON THE POSITIONS, OF THE AGENCIES AND PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE, WITHIN THE AGENCIES FOR MAKING THE DETERMINATIONS. >> THANK YOU MR. COUNTY MISTREATED HER. DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT? >> THE CURRENT ACTION PLAN, PART OF IT CAME FROM WORKING WITH DESPERATE CAME FROM WORKING WITH FTP. >> YES. >> I FEEL CONFIDENT WITH THE CURRENT DIRECTION WE ARE TAKING. AND I PERSONALLY WANT TO COME BACK A YEAR FROM NOW WITH THE INFORMATION WE HAVE TO SEE IF THE LINK STABILIZES AND THEN DO A WORKSHOP. MY FEAR IS THAT WE HAVE A WORKSHOP AND WE VEER AND STEER AWAY FROM THIS CURRENT PLAN AND WE NEVER SEE THAT THIS PLAN WE HAVE IN PLACE RIGHT NOW, THAT STAFF HAS IN PLACE, AND A PARTNERSHIP WITH F DEBUSSY AND FTP CAME WITH WE NEVER SAW THIS COMING TO FRUITION KIND START RUNNING IN CIRCLES AND WE NEVER SEE WHAT DOES WORK AND WHAT DOESN'T WORK. >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. >> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. >> COMMISSIONER PROCTOR AND THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT, AND TALLAHASSEE, WHERE HER ARROGANCE DISALLOWS US TO HEAR FROM CITIZENS WHO WANT TO TALK TO THE COUNTY BOARD, NOT THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT THAT WE CAN'T HEAR FROM THE PEOPLE, THE CHAIR LADY AND I ATTENDED THAT MEETING, WAS THE NAME OF THE CHURCH? >> IS DOWN THERE, WE HAD A PACKED OUTHOUSE AND CHARTS, MEDIA STUFF, GOOD AS OURS, THESE ARE REALLY SMART PEOPLE. AND I KNOW THAT THE GOVERNOR OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA HAS PEOPLE THAT HE BELIEVES IN, AND YOU CAN'T TALK TO THIS DAY, WHEN THEY SAY SOMETHING, AND THE PUT DESK TO GET THE FOOT DOWN, I DON'T WANT TO BE LIKE THEM, I DON'T WANT TO BE LIKE LOCAL GOVERNMENT, WE KNOW WE ARE GOING TO BE A GOVERNMENT OF THE PEOPLE, FOR IT IN BY IT, I GOT SOMETHING TO SAY, AND WHATEVER THE NAME WAS, THE LAST WORD, AND PEOPLE LIVING OUT FOR DECADES. AND LOVING ON THAT, GROUP ON THE LAKE, AND THERE IS A POSTURE OF OPENNESS , WHICH I BELIEVE, THEY WANTED NOW OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. ALL OF THESE CHARTS AND GET DESPERATE KEEP WORKING HARD. LET'S HEAR THEM. LET'S HEAR THEM. AND ME AND YOU, DOWN FOR FIVE TIMES. THE EFFORT TO HEAR FROM THIS GROUP THAT PUT A LOT OF LABOR IN, AND POWERFUL, YOU CAN TELL THEM NOTHING, AND TO WELCOME THEM HERE, ANOTHER SMART PEOPLE HERE. AND THE LEADERSHIP HERE. >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER MINOR. >> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR, I'VE SEEN OUR COUNTY STAFF WORKING AT LAKE MUNSON FOR YEARS, FOR ME IT HAS BEEN AN EDUCATIONAL PROCESS, I'VE LEARNED THE EXTENT OF THE LONG HISTORY THAT THE COUNTY HAS, AND THE COMMISSION ARE WORKING HARD AND REACHING OUT TO THE FOLKS AT LAKE MUNSON, ORGANIZING A CLEANUP IN THE COUNTY STAFF WAS THERE, LEARNED A LOT OF DESPERATE A LOT OVER THE YEARS, THE COMMISSIONER REPRESENTS THE AREA AND CONFIDENT IN THE PLAN AT THIS STAGE, I'M WILLING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. AND WE HAVE A WORKSHOP. AND COMMISSIONER, REASONING THAT AREA, THIS TIME, WITH WHAT IS DIRECTION SUGGESTS, AND HAVE A WORKSHOP AT THIS TIME, FOR SOMETHING ELSE A LOT OF WEEDS, WORKING SO HARD ON LAKE MUNSON WITH THE PEOPLE THAT WORK THERE. MOVING FORWARD TO THE WORKSHOP, WITH THE BILLS ON, AND I THINK COMMISSIONER HAS AN APPROACH THAT I THINK IS VIABLE IN THE RIGHT ONE. >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER MADDOX. >> MR. ADMINISTRATOR. >> PLEASE. >> ALL CENTERS AROUND A WORKSHOP THAT WE HAD COMMITTED TO DO THAT WE HAVE NOT DONE, IS THAT CORRECT? >> I KNEW THERE WAS A WORKSHOP DISCUSSED THERE, AND NOT BOUND BY. AND THAT WE DISCUSSED HERE WAS A MEETING BY WHICH WE REACHED OUT TO THE CITY, HAVE THE WORKSHOP CORRECT? >> I THINK THAT'S ACCURATE YES. AND I BELIEVE THE BLUEPRINT WAS THE ONE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE ONE THE COUNTY HAD SENT OVER IN THE CITY HAD RESPONDED TO THE MEETING, IT WAS AROUND WAS TAKE THE VOTE HERE, THEIR ANSWERS THERE, I BELIEVE THE VOTE WAS TAKEN, AND I THINK THE MOTION MAY HAVE FAILED IN RELATION TO THE WORKSHOP, THAT THE SAME THING WE WERE TALKING ABOUT. EITHER WAY, IF WE COMMIT TO A MEETING, THE WORKSHOP, WHICH IS WHAT WAS BEING SAID HERE, AS COMMISSIONER PROCTOR SAID, AND WE HAVE NOT COMMITTED TO THAT, TALKING ABOUT WHEN TO ACTIVELY FINISH THE PROCESS WHAT WERE DOING TO SEE HOW THAT WORKS OUT, WITH THE STATUS REPORT CHECKED IN TIME, WHAT HAPPENED AND HOW THE DRAWDOWN AFFECTED IT CORRECT? >> CERTAINLY SOMETHING THE BOARD CAN DO. >> I SEE BOTH SIDES, TO ME THERE'S NOT A LOT OF CLARITY ABOUT IF WE COMMIT TO THE WORKSHOP, LIKE WITH THE COMMISSIONER HAS SAID, SHOWING THE PROCESS IN DISAGREEMENT ABOUT HOW WE GO ABOUT WITH THE PROCESS BUT WE STARTED IT, IT'S GET THROUGH IT AND SEE IF IT ACTUALLY WORKS AND IF IT DOESN'T, WE MOVE IN ANOTHER DIRECTION, BUT EVERYBODY HAS THE SAME GOAL HERE, AND WHAT IS GOING ON HERE. PROBABLY ROOM THE COMMISSIONER IS RIGHT NOW, COMMISSIONER CABAN, BUT IN THE DIRECTION OF THE WORKSHOP, AND MR. DEMONSTRATOR, IF WE SCHEDULE A WORKSHOP, YOU'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO MOVE IN A DIRECTION OF THAT CORRECT? >> THAT IS CORRECT. I THINK THE PIECES THAT ARE WORTH MENTIONING, I WILL REMIND THE BOARD THE EXTENT TO WHICH COMMISSIONER TALKS ABOUT IT, THE MOMENTUM IN TIME AND STICKING TO THE PLAN, AND ALL THAT SORT OF THING, I WILL REMIND THE BOARD JUST HOW COMPREHENSIVE YOUR EFFORTS WERE PRIOR TO THE ADOPTION OF THIS PLAN. YOU HAD US WORK WITH THE WORKING COMMITTEE, FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS AS WE PUT THE PLAN TOGETHER, IT'S BEEN VERY EXTENSIVE, DELICATE HAPPEN IN A VACUUM, YOU APPROVED THE PLAN, WISH TO CONDUCT WORKSHOPS AT ANY POINT IN TIME. FROM OUR STANDPOINT, IF THE BOARD DECIDED WHEN WE BRING THIS BACK IN THE YEAR, WHICH WE WOULD DO AT THAT TIME, A WORKSHOP TO GO OVER THE DATA OVER THAT PERIOD OF TIME. OBVIOUSLY WE ARE HAPPY TO DO THAT AND HAVE A WORKSHOP WHENEVER IT IS NECESSARY. BUT AGAIN IT HAS BEEN A VERY INCLUSIVE, COMPREHENSIVE PROCESS AT THIS POINT. >> I THINK I REMEMBER, I WAS THERE BEFORE, I DO REMEMBER WE HAD A FEW MEETINGS WITH THE COMMUNITIES THAT KIND OF GET INPUT THERE. I'M PARTIAL TO MOVING FORWARD WITH THE PROCESS, NOT GOING TO STOP ANYWAY. AND LAST QUESTION MADAM CHAIR, WHAT IS THE WHOLE PROCESS COMPLETED? >> THE DRAWDOWN? >> THE PROCESS SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY SEE THAT. >> IS GOING TO ASK THEM TO MOVE UP. >> OKAY. >> OPEN THE GATES AND IN THE DRAWDOWN IN MAY, DEPENDENT ON GETTING THE LAST SURVEY, WE HAVE THE TWO-YEAR, ENHANCED MONITORING, WATER QUALITY TESTING THAT ALSO STARTS IN MAY, THAT WILL GO MAY 2024 -26. >> AND THE STATUS OF WHEN YOU OPEN THE GATES, WE WILL BEGIN STATUS UPDATES, LET'S SAY EVERY NOW AND AGAIN TO SEE HOW THINGS ARE GOING WITH THE LAKE ? >> YES AND THE ITEM WE WERE RECOMMENDING BRING IT BACK UPON CONCLUSION OF THAT, BUT BASICALLY WHAT COMMISSIONER CABAN SAID, AND AGAIN IF THAT REFLECT THE WILL OF THE BOARD, I MENTIONED TO COMMISSIONER CABAN TODAY WE WILL BE HAPPY TO BRING THAT BACK WITHIN ONE YEAR. AND BRING IT BACK AS OFTEN AS THE BOARD WOULD LIKE IT TO BE BROUGHT BACK, THE DOES NEED TO BE TIME BETWEEN THESE REPORTS SO WE CAN DO ALL OF THE WORK THAT IS INVOLVED. >> I WILL BE IN FAVOR OF US FOR THE WORKSHOP. >> IN FAVOR OF? >> OF US WAITING WITH WHAT KIND OF RESULTS WE GET. >> OKAY. >> OKAY, LET ME ASK, AT THE END OF THE DRAWDOWN, THERE'S GOING TO BE A PERIOD OF TWO YEARS OF TESTING, ? >> THAT'S CORRECT, THE TESTING FOR A PERIOD OF TWO YEARS. >> OKAY. MONTHLY. FOR A PERIOD OF TWO YEARS. AND AFTER THAT, JUST DEPENDING ON THE RESULT OF THE TEST? FIGURE YES, WE WILL GO BACK TO THE NORMAL QUARTERLY WATER SAMPLING, THE WAY WE NORMALLY TAKE. >> THANK YOU. >> I DON'T SEE HAVING A WORKSHOP AS STOPPING THE PROCESS, CHANGING THE DIRECTION OF THE BOARD IS GIVEN. I SEE IT MORE , MR. COUNTY MS. RITTER, AS INFORMATIONAL PERHAPS, TO BRING MAYBE THE CITIZENS AND RESIDENTS IN THE AREA OF TODAY, I APPRECIATE THIS PORT -- REPORT THAT WE HAVE HERE, AND DRAWING DOWN IN MAY, SOMEWHERE CLOSE TO THAT, WE WILL RECEIVE ANOTHER REPORT. OKAY. I DON'T SEE HAVING A WORKSHOP AS IMPEDING THE PROCESS. AT ALL. I THINK WE HAVE SOME CONCERN , CONCERNED CITIZENS IN T♪HE AREA, AND OF COURSE WE ARE CONCERNED, I UNDERSTAND LAKE MUNSON HAS BEEN AN ISSUE FOR YEARS AND YEARS, AND I SEE ALL THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT HAVE BEEN DIRECTED TOWARD THE CLEANUP, EVERYBODY RECOGNIZES THAT IT IS A CONCERN. BUT HAVING SAID THAT. I DON'T HAVE A MAJOR PROBLEM OF THE PROCESS CONTINUING, BUT STILL, BRINGING TOGETHER IN THE FORM OF A WORKSHOP, THE COMMITTEE, THE COUNTY SCIENTISTS, OTHER SCIENTISTS, AND IF THE VC, AND WE HAVE THAT FOR HIM, WE HAVE A FORUM, IN THE GUISE OF A WORKSHOP, TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS WHERE WE ARE. AND IT RECOGNIZES THE PERIODIC REPORTS THAT HAVE BEEN GIVEN. A PROJECTION OF WHEN MORE REPORTS WILL BE GIVEN, AND OF COURSE WE HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE THE RESULTS OF THE TEST AFTER THE DRAWDOWN. BUT CITIZEN INVOLVEMENT, CITIZENS BEING ABLE TO HEAR OUR EXPERTS, AND WHERE WE ARE. I DON'T SEE THAT AS A MAJOR PROBLEM, AND I THINK IF WE SPECIFY AS A BOARD THAT AFTER THE DRAWDOWN WE ASK STAFF TO ORGANIZE A WORKSHOP, IT COULD BE LATER ON THIS YEAR, FOR THE NEXT ONE, THE NEXT FOUR MONTHS, AND SPECIFICALLY INDICATE WHO WE WOULD LIKE TO BE THE WORKSHOP TO GIVE THEIR INPUT. I THINK IT WOULD JUST BE INFORMATIONAL FOR EVERYBODY. SO THAT IS MY OPINION. FINGER TWO POINTS I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE. RIGHT HERE IN FRONT OF ME, THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION, AND IS SCIENTISTS, AND WORKING ON AREAS, AND LAST SPRING, AND MANY FREELY WITH FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY, THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS, OUTSIDE SCIENTISTS AND COUNCILS, I MET WITH STAFF. WORKED CLOSELY IN PUTTING TOGETHER THE ACTION PLAN, AND PROCESS OF EXECUTING, THE 2nd POINT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE I THINK IS VERY IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER. LET'S SAY WE WERE TO DO A WORKSHOP THIS SUMMER OR THIS FALL, OR EVEN EARLY NEXT SPRING, THE INFORMATION THAT IS PROVIDED TO US IS NOT ACCURATE INFORMATION BECAUSE IT TAKES 12-18, AND THE INFORMATION TO CONSTRUCT THE DIFFERENT PATH. IS NOT ACCURATE INFORMATION. EVERY STAFF MEMBER EVERY SCIENTIST, AFTER THE DRAWDOWN, 12-18 MONTHS, THE INFORMATION THAT WE WOULD BE USING IS NOT THE BEST CURRENT INFORMATION. BEST FOR THE LAKE, AND AND THINK YOU MADAM CHAIR. >> THINK YOU MADAM CHAIR. CAPTURING THE NARRATIVE , OF THIS ISSUE. WHEN IT WAS STRIKING. AND MEDICS WAS THERE, THE COUNTY REACHED OUT TO THE CITY. THE CITY GOVERNMENT. NEVER HEARD BACK. THOSE LIKE A MISSILE. IF THE COUNTIES GOVERNMENT CAN HEAR BACK FROM IT. AND HOW THE CITIZENS GROUP TO HEAR BACK, AND ACCURATELY, IS OF THE NATURE OF TONE DEAFNESS AND CITIZENS ACROSS THE COMMUNITY. CERTAINLY NOT TRYING TO UNRAVEL THE PLAN , DESIRE SIMPLY IS TO HEAR , ON THE PLATFORM HERE. AND THE CLOCKS. LAST DECEMBER, AND COMMISSIONER, YOU'RE THE FIRST PERSON TO COME SEE ME, AND I APPRECIATE THAT. AND THAT IN DIED. I COULD HAVE. BUT I WOULDN'T BECAUSE I WANTED TO BE HERE TODAY. >> WANTED TO BE HERE TO HEAR FROM CITIZENS WHO ARE ASKING TO MEET WITH ME ALIVE. A FEW PEOPLE GATHERING TO THE GRAVESIDE. THEY WANT TO TALK TO US ALIVE. AND I'M HONORED MYSELF THAT WE DO, AND WOULD. THEY WOULD EVEN ASK. THEY HAVE A MEETING AND INVITED ALL OF US TO COME TO THEM. WHATEVER REASON THE CHAIR LADY CAME TO THEM. AND WITH TRY TO DEMONSTRATE PUT FORWARD, AND I BELIEVE CAN EARLY. TRYING WITH ALL THEIR MIGHT, CAN WE GET YOUR ATTENTION. TRYING TO CHANGE WHAT YOU DID. NOT WANTING US TO REGULATE A GOVERNMENT THAT IS TONE DEAF. I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. WE CAN CHEW BUBBLEGUM AND WALK AND HEAR FROM THE PEOPLE, THEY'RE NOT TRYING TO INTERRUPT, THEY WANT TO AUGMENT PERHAPS. THE METHODOLOGY. AND I DON'T KNOW. THERE'S ENOUGH TIME ON THIS RIGHT HERE. ARE MOTIONS ARE BLENDED. LOVE YOU ENOUGH TO RELINQUISH AND LOVE SOMETHING OPEN IT AND LET IT GO AND LET IT FREE. I'M GRATEFUL THAT YOU KEEP COMING BACK. AND FOR ALL OF OUR COLLEAGUES TO HEAR. OFTENTIMES YOU FEEL THE TONE DEAFNESS FROM THE GOVERNMENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH MADAM CHAIR. THINK YOU COMMISSIONERS. >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER PROCTOR. WE'VE ALL EXPRESSED OUR OPINION. >> I HAVE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION. >> WILL YOU DO? FIGURE YES. >> I THINK WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS, THEN THE PLANE WERE I THINK EVERYONE IS HAPPY, MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION TO ACCEPT THE STATUS REPORT, AND THE NEXT STATUS REPORT COME BACK TO US, IN 12 MONTHS, AND AT THAT TIME, IF THE DAILY MAXIMUM DAILY LOADS, IF THE LEVELS ARE HIGH IN THE LAKE, THEN WE WILL COMMIT AT THE NEXT MEETING. >> OKAY. BEFORE WE GET A SECOND I WANT SOME SPECIFICATION. AFTER YEAR, DEPENDING ON THE HIGHS AND LOWS, IS THAT ENOUGH DIRECTION FOR YOU? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. IS THERE A SECOND. IN A DISCUSSION. >> YES MADAM CHAIR. >> THE FIRST TIME IN HISTORY, RIGHT HERE, WE HAVE SET UP A CONTINGENCY CLAUSE, AS A BASIS TO HAVE THE WORKSHOP. A QUANTITATIVE MEASURE SHOULD NOT BE THE STANDARD BY WHICH WE AFFORD PEOPLE ACCESS TO TALK TO A COUNTIES GOVERNMENT. THAT WE WILL TALK WITH YOU, AND HEAR FROM YOU, IF THERE IS A MAXIMUM DAILY LOAD AT A CERTAIN QUANTIFIABLE RATE, OTHERWISE WE WILL HEAR FROM YOU, REFUSING TO SUPPORT THAT. AND THE CONDITION OF QUALITY AND PEOPLE'S VOICES. ON THE DAILY LOAD OF SOMETHING OUT OF LAKE MUNSON, THE PEOPLE ARE >> AND GREATER AND MORE IMPORTANT, THEN A DAILY LOAD EQUATING SOMETHING THAT OCCURS IN NATURE, AS A QUALIFIER FOR THEM TO TALK TO THE LEON COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, WE ARE >> THAN THAT, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. >> COMMISSIONER MADDOX? >> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. AGAIN IT COMES DOWN TO A WORKSHOP TIMING WISE, THE QUESTION I HAD WAS, IF WE HAVE THE WORKSHOP NOW, SPECIFYING THE PROCESS WILL CONTINUE TO GO, I WOULD IMAGINE THAT IT IS NOT JUST INFORMATION, THERE IS A PIECE TO THIS THAT THE CITIZENS ARE DISPUTE IS DIFFERENT FROM WHAT THE STAFF SAYS. ACCESS TO GOVERNMENT AND THE ELECTIVES, ANYTIME ANY CITIZENS WANT TO MEET WITH STAFF ON ANY ISSUE, THEY HAVE THE NUMBERS IN THE EMAILS, THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO. I DON'T THINK ACCESS IS NECESSARILY AN ISSUE HERE. THERE NEEDS TO BE A CONVERSATION, AGAIN IT COULD HAPPEN DURING THE SAME MEETINGS. WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO IT FOR ME, IT'S MORE OF THEIR SOME THINGS TO SIZE DON'T AGREE ON. AND THE RIGHT WAY TO GO ABOUT IT, WE'VE BEEN DOWN THIS ROAD THERE IS AND THE PHILOSOPHY BE BETWEEN CITIZENS, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS A GOVERNMENT. AND WORKING WITH THE CITIZENS AND THE WORKSHOP AFTER WORKSHOP, IN ORDER FOR US TO GET TO THE POINT, MADAM CHAIR, WE WERE ABLE TO AGREE ON SOMETHING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DRAWDOWN , A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT BETWEEN MEETINGS BETWEEN THE GOVERNMENT, LEON COUNTY GOVERNMENT, SPECIFIED BY THAT IN THE CITIZENS GROUP, AND WE CAME TOGETHER AND CAME UP WITH SOMETHING AND WE ARE AT A POINT WHERE WE ARE MOVING FORWARD ON IT, TALKING ABOUT HAVING ANOTHER WORKSHOP, AND AGAIN IF THERE WAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG WITH THE PROCESS, QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS AND CITIZENS COMING UP, SAYING THE STAFF IS DOING A GOOD JOB, BUT THERE ARE DIFFERENCES THERE. SO I DON'T WANT TO PAINT THE PICTURE LIKE WELL, WE ARE JUST GOING TO HAVE A WORKSHOP TO EXCHANGE INFORMATION, AND TALK THIS THING OVER, NO, EXPECTATION THAT THE WORKSHOP IS EITHER WE AS COMMISSION IS GOING TO BACK WITH STAFF IS DOING, OR ASK STAFF TO MOVE IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION. I BELIEVE WHAT THE COMMISSIONER HAS SAID IS THAT HE WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH WHAT STAFF IS DOING, TO GET THERE, GET TO A POINT, WHETHER OR NOT IT'S GOING TO WORK. SO AGAIN, I COULD GO WITH WAITING A YEAR, AND I DON'T THINK IT'S CONDITIONAL, AND WORD IS, WITH OR NOT WE HAVE A WORKSHOP, AND THINK IT'S PART OF THE MOTION, AND BACK TO THAT TIME IT SAYS WE HAVE A PROBLEM, WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, AND WERE GOING TO SAY THAT NEXT WE HAVE A WORKSHOP. GRIEVANCE AMOS DEMONSTRATOR, IF THE SEA LEVELS ARE RISING BETWEEN NOW AND THAT YEAR YOU WOULD BRING SOMETHING BACK FOR CONSIDERATION AS TO HOW TO DEAL WITH NUTRIENT LEVELS RISING CORRECT? WITH WHAT STAFF ARE DOING. >> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR, COMMISSIONER? >> AND SUFFERING FROM A LACK OF INFORMATION AT LAKE MUNSON. AND SO AGAIN, WE CAN BRING THIS BACK TO YOU, IN THE YEAR, AND AT THAT TIME, GIVES THAT DIRECTION, TO HAVE A WORKSHOP? WITH OR WITHOUT THE THRESHOLD THAT COMMISSIONER TALKED ABOUT, WE ARE HAPPY EITHER WAY, WE ARE HAPPY TO ACCEPT WHATEVER THE DIRECTION THE BOARD MIGHT BE AT, AND COMMISSIONER MADDOX, YOU'VE KIND OF SUMMED UP THE DYNAMICS VERY WELL IN TERMS OF THE LAY OF THE LAND. >> MADAM CHAIR, FINALLY, I'M DESPERATE AT A POINT WHERE THE CONVERSATION AS DRUG OUT OVER THE FACT OF, ARE WE GOING TO LET STAFF CONTINUE TO MOVE THIS DIRECTION, AND HAVE A WORKSHOP TO SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, AND BE THROUGH EMAIL, COMING TO SPEAK AT OUR MEETINGS, BEFORE HALFTIME, THERE'S OPPORTUNITY THERE, AND ALSO FOR CITIZENS TO GET INFORMATION. EITHER WERE GOING TO LIFT STAFF FINISH THE PROCESS OR VERY BLUNTLY, IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT WE ONCE CHANGED THAT CAME FROM THE CITIZENS, THE CITIZENS GROUP, IF THERE IS A SUGGESTION THEY MAY THAT WE WANT CHANGED, WE CAN JUST ASK STAFF TO CHANGE IT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK OF THE WORKSHOP WERE GOING TO GET A DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENT OR CONVERSATION BETWEEN STAFF AND THE CITIZENS GROUP. SO I AM IN FAVOR, AGAIN OF AT LEAST FINISHING UP THE PROCESS AND THEN HAVING A STATUS REPORT, AND ALLOWING STAFF THERE, IF WE SEE THOSE LEVEL START TO RISE, THEY WILL RESPOND APPROPRIATELY BY GETTING US ALL TOGETHER AND US HAVING A CONVERSATION. >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER MADDOX. COMMISSIONER MINOR? >> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. >> I THINK COMMISSIONER MADDOX IS 100% SPOT ON, I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING, COMMISSIONER PROCTOR, I RESPECT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING BUT I DISAGREE STRONGLY, IT'S NOT THE ONLY WAY TO TALK WITH US, AND I SPOKE WITH MAX AND PEOPLE THAT LIVE ALONG LAKE MUNSON, WE'VE HAD LONG CONVERSATIONS, AND ACTUALLY HELP THEM TRY TO FIND THE MAIN BONES OF CONTENTION THAT WE CAN WORK WITH STAFF TO TRY TO RESOLVE THOSE BONES OF CONTENTION, WE HAVE AGREED TO A PROCESS, IT IS STILL IN PLAY, THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER THAT REPRESENTS THE AREA, I'VE SEEN WORK HARD ON THIS, AS COMMISSIONER MADDOX SAYS, A WORKSHOP IS FOR TWO THINGS, THE STATUS OF WHAT THE COUNTY IS DOING AND POSSIBLY DECIDE IF WE WANT TO CHANGE MIDSTREAM, I DON'T THINK WE ARE AT THAT POINT YET, TALK ABOUT HAVING US TAKE A LOOK AT IT A YEAR FROM NOW, I THINK THE COUNTY STUFF TO MAKE A DECISION WHETHER OR NOT FROM THEIR EYES WE SHOULD HAVE A WORKSHOP, WE CAN LOOK AT THAT STATUS REPORT IN A YEAR AND DECIDE WE'RE GOING TO DO IT ON OUR OWN. I'M GOING TO SPORT THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION OF THE TABLE, AND IF ENSURING THE END OF THE BODY WAS TO DO A WORKSHOP AND HAPPEN TO BE THERE AND PARTICIPATE, WE HAVE COME UP WITH A PLAN AFTER MANY YEARS AND BEFORE THE PLAN, MILLIONS OF DOLLARS SPENT ON LAKE MUNSON BEFORE TO GET IT TO THIS POINT, LET'S SEE IT PLAY OUT AND TAKE A LOOK AT WHERE WE ARE IN A YEAR AND GO FOR -- GO FROM THERE. >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. >> COMMISSIONER -- JUST TO ASK HIM STAFF, >> TO COME BACK. >> AND COMMISSIONER MADDOX, AND THE THIRD PART, THE HOLDING PUNS, WITH THE CASCADES. AND THE ELBOW. TO ANITA DAVIS LAKE. AND THE BLUEPRINT MODE RIGHT NOW. AND WITH NICK. WHAT IS THE STATUS AND THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THAT BUILD OUT OF THAT POND , THE PLAN THAT IS UNDERWAY, OR IS THERE ANY CORRELATION? I KNOW THAT IT MIGHT BE DIPPING INTO THE BLUEPRINT. BLUEPRINT NOTION OF THOSE CHAIN OF HOLDING PUNS THAT WE'RE ESTABLISHING. >>> IS MY UNDERSTANDING -- >> THE SOUTHERN MOST DEVELOPED LAKE, WE HAD IT TEED UP TO BE THE FIRST, AND ALL OF THOSE CARS WERE UNDERWATER, AT LEON HIGH SCHOOL, THEN WE ALTERED THE PLAN AND MIDSTREAM, AND WE DID FRANKLIN BOULEVARD, IT GOT COVERED UP, AND DEEPENS, TO RELIEVE LEON. WE HAVE NEVER GONE BACK TO THE ORIGINAL THOUGHT OF STARTING THE SOUTHERLY BOUNDARY AND COMING BACK AND WORKING FROM CAPITAL CIRCLE BACK INTO THE CITY. HAVE WE ABANDONED THIS? CAN SOMEONE BE HONEST ABOUT THAT? >> NO, IN FACT WE CONTINUE TO ARTICULATE $300 MILLION THAT HAVE BEEN SPENT IN THIS CHAIN OVER THE PAST 20 YEARS, AND CONTINUE TO BRING ITEMS TO THE BOARD AND ARTICULATING EVERYTHING HAPPENING INCLUDING THAT, THAT IS OCCURRING THERE. BUT WITH RESPECT TO THE BOOTH DESPERATE BLUEPRINT, IS THERE ANY THERE, WE SPREAD TO BLUEPRINT. >> THE CASCADES, SEGMENT FOUR, AND AND THAT SHOULD BE COMPLETED. THE CITY OF TALLAHASSEE DID THAT AND THE WEST SIDE, OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND $20 MILLION COMMITMENT TO IT, MOVING FORWARD, EXPECTING TO BREAK GROUND IN 25. >> AND THE SCIENTIST. AND THAT WAS TO PLAY THE ROLL. AND HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE QUALITY OF WATER THAT WAS MOVING INTO IT. IN TO FILTER, AND CHANGE THE QUALITY OF MUNSON. THAT IS WHAT YOU MAKE SURE THAT THE GANG IS STILL HONEST WITH RESPECT TO THE DOLLARS TO DECIDE THE INVESTMENT. IT WAS TO HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE QUALITY OF LAKE MUNSON. AS LONG AS WE ARE COMMITTED TO TRYING THAT PIECE OF SCIENCE. AND KNOWLEDGE AND WHATEVER, IT WILL IMPROVE. BUT I DON'T WANT US TO WALK AWAY FROM THAT. WITHOUT DOING THAT, WE ARE NOT MAXIMIZING THE POTENTIAL OF THE WATERS. I'M SURE YOU LOOK VERY NICE. JUST LOVELY AND BEAUTIFUL, RAISING THE BAR FOR ALL OF US. >> THANK YOU. >> A SIGHT FOR SORE EYES. >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. OKAY. ONE LAST COMMENT, THEN WE WILL GO TO VOTE. >> I'M GOING TO EDIT THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION TO REMOVE THE LATTER PART OF IT, AND EXCEPT THE STATUS REPORT AND SCHEDULE THE NEXT ONE 12 MONTHS FROM NOW. >> SCHEDULE? >> SCHEDULED THE NEXT STATUS REPORT 12 MONTHS FROM NOW. >> THE DRAWDOWN. >> ACTUALLY SOONER THAN WE PROPOSED >> OKAY. IS THERE A SECOND? >> THANK YOU. >> WE'VE DONE AWAY WITH THE FIRST SUBSTITUTE MOTION, AND AND THE COMMISSIONER, AND LAKE MUNSON, SITTING IN HIS DISTRICT, AND AND DISTRICT COMMISSIONER. MY OWN CONCERNS ABOUT CITIZENS WANTING TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE COMMISSION, AND GET CLARIFICATION. AND WITH ALL DUE RESPECT COMMISSIONER MADDOX. AND FOR THE POTENTIAL WORKSHOP, IS HYPOTHETICAL, AND IN MY OPINION TO GIVE STAFF IN THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. THE OPPORTUNITY SET FORTH WHAT WE ARE DOING. AND THE SCIENTIFIC NATURE, AND THE STATUS OF WHERE WE ARE, TRULY, THE COMMISSIONERS. IN ALL CITIZENS DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THE VARIOUS REPORTS. THAT ARE SUBMITTING HERE. EYE SIDE OF TOWN. IN WILL MAIL OUT PAPER COPIES. WINDOW SEAT IS INPUT, AS IS A BEFORE. INFORMATIONAL. IN A PROBLEM WITH SAYING THAT IN THE YEAR, WE WILL HAVE A WORKSHOP. PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION TO THE CITIZENS, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT BUILD AROUND THE AREA. AND DONE A GREAT JOB. AND WE GOT OUR PLAN, NOT HOLDING A WORKSHOP, AND NOT IMPEDE IN ANY WAY THE PLAN, THAT THIS BOARD HAS ADOPTED IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. THE PLAN OF CORRECTION FOR THE LAKE. HAVING SAID THAT, WHAT I WOULD DO IS ASK ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF COMMISSIONER CABAN 'S SUBSTITUTE MOTION, TO INDICATE BY VOTE OF AYE AYE I'M NOT SURE IF I NEED A ROLLCALL , BY SHOW OF RAISE OF HANDS, WE HAVE FIVE, ALL OF THOSE NOT IN FAVOR SHOW YOUR HANDS , NAY. FIVE IN FAVOR, TWO AGAINST, THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU SO MUCH. MR. COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. >> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR, THAT INCLUDES THE CONSENT AGENDA, ONTO GENERAL BUSINESS, ITEM NUMBER 14, COMMISSIONERS, SEEKING YOUR CONSIDERATION TO DEDICATE COURTROOM THREE A IN HONOR OF JUDGE JAMES CHARLES HANKINSON , THIS FOLLOWS YOUR DIRECTION TO BRING THAT BACK, CONSISTENT WITH POLICY AND WE ARE HAPPY TO ACCEPT POOR DIRECTION ON THIS ITEM. >> THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT . >> SO MOVED. >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER MADDOX. AND COMMISSIONER MINOR, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? >> OPTION ONE. >> OKAY. I'M LOOKING AT ATTACHMENT ONE, I'M SORRY. [ LAUGHTER ] IS THE MOTION TO ACCEPT OPTION ONE? IS THERE A SECOND? YES. IN THE DISCUSSION, I WANT TO THANK YOU MR. COUNTY MINISTRY AT HER AND YOUR STAFF FOR LOOKING INTO THIS REQUEST, FROM THE CHIEF JUDGE, MANY OF US AND I'M SURE HER ATTORNEY, , MANY HEARINGS BEFORE THE JUDGE, IN THAT VERY COURTROOM, AND AN HONOR FOR HIS FAMILY TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE BOARD. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, LET IT BE KNOWN BY SAYING AYE ANY OPPOSITION. >> I VOTE AYE, AND COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE IS OUT OF CHAMBERS, THANK YOU MR. COUNTY MINISTRY TO. >> COMMISSIONERS, ITEM NUMBER 15 SEEKS THE ACCEPTANCE OF APPROXIMATELY $3 MILLION IN OPIOID SETTLEMENT FUNDS, WITH THE NORTHWEST FLORIDA HEALTH NETWORK TO RECEIVE THE FUNDS, AND DISC VILLAGE, AS DETAILED IN THE ITEM, WE ARE NOTIFIED AT THE END OF LAST YEAR THE COUNTY WOULD RECEIVE AN ADDITIONAL $11.6 MILLION IN OPIOID SETTLEMENT FUNDS FROM THE STATE OVER THE NEXT 18 YEARS, THIS IS THE FIRST INSTALLMENT OF THAT. AS I MENTIONED TO MANY COMMISSIONERS IN OUR BRIEFINGS, IT IS PRETTY PRESCRIPTIVE IN TERMS OF HOW WE SPEND THESE DOLLARS, SO WE WOULD ANTICIPATE BRINGING YOU ALL A RECOMMENDATION WITH FUTURE INSTALLMENTS OVER THE NEXT 18 YEARS. THIS IS THE FIRST INSTALLMENT . THE RECOMMENDED OPTIONS ARE BEFORE YOU, AND WE ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE, NO SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM. >> THANK YOU MR. COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. COMMISSIONERS, I WOULD LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT OPTIONS 12 AND 3 IS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF. COMMISSIONER WELCH A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> WE OKAY. >> DISCUSSION. >> A FEW YEARS AGO, ATTORNEY DARRELL PARKS HAD BEEN A PART IN ALIGNING AS PART OF THE LEGAL TEAM, TO ADMINISTER THESE FUNDS, IS HE STILL PART OF THE LEGAL NETWORK THAT IS DEALING WITH THE OPIOID SETTLEMENT? ATTORNEY DARRELL PARKS? >> MAY I? >> YES. >> THANK YOU. WE HAVE NOT COMMUNICATED WITH MR. PARKS, WE RECEIVE UPDATES PERIODICALLY FROM OUR MAIN OUTSIDE COUNCIL, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT ATTORNEY PARKS BASICALLY HAD PARTNERED WITH THE LAW FIRM THAT WAS HANDLING A LOT OF THE OUTSIDE COUNCIL MATTERS FOR THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, SO I'M HONESTLY NOT SURE, THEY'RE NOT PAID DIRECTLY FROM US OUT OF ANY SETTLEMENT PROCEEDS, THAT THEY ARE PAID OUT OF, BECAUSE BASICALLY IT IS NOT CHARACTERIZED AS A CLASS ACTION BUT IT IS A CLASS ACTION, AND WHEN WE SIGNED THE MOU WITH THE STATE OF FLORIDA, IT DETERMINES HOW THE ATTORNEYS FEES WOULD BE PAID OUT OF THE SETTLEMENT PROCEEDS WE RECEIVE, SO WE DON'T MAKE ANY DIRECT PAYMENTS FROM OUTSIDE COUNCIL FOR THEIR SERVICES. >> OKAY, VERY MUCH I KNOW THE STATE OF FLORIDA IS DISINTERESTED IN DIVERSITY WITH THE COUNTY OF LEON IS, AND ATTORNEY PARKS, STILL PART OF THE LITIGATION IN THE LEGAL TEAM. THE SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS, THE LEGAL SIDE, THIS IS THE SERVICE SIDE, IN THE SENSE OF DELIVERING OF CARE. SO I APPRECIATE YOUR ATTENTION, THANK YOU. >> I'VE GOT THE GAVEL TEMPORARILY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> YES SIR. >> THANK YOU MR. VICE CHAIR. I WANT TO RECORD MY VOTE IN SUPPORT OF NUMBER 14. >> SO NOTED. >> IF THERE ARE NO MORE QUESTIONS, THEN WE HAVE A MOTION, SECONDED, BY MYSELF AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE, ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE ALL THOSE OPPOSED. AND I AM ALSO IN THE AFFIRMATIVE. ARE YOU GOOD? >> COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, NEXT ITEM. >> THANK YOU, THIS ITEM, SEEKING THE ACQUISITION OF THE PARCEL NEEDED FOR THE TURN LANE AT HARPERS FERRY DRIVE, REQUESTING THE BOARD'S APPROVAL OF A COUNTER OFFER OF $20,000, INCLUDING COST AND FEES, RECEIVED FROM MORTGAGE HOLDINGS, THE PURPOSE OF THIS ITEM, IS TO ACQUIRE THE ACRES TO CONSTRUCT A TURN LANE AGAIN AT HARPERS FERRY DRIVE. BEFORE YOU WE HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION WITH RESPECT TO HOW THIS PROCESS WAS CARRIED OUT CONSISTENT WITH THE RELEVANT POLICIES AND PRINCIPLES ETC., AND A COUNTER OFFER, AN OPTION ONE, AND ANY OF THE DETAILS, NO SPEAKERS ON THE ITEM. >> IS THERE EMOTION? >> MR. CHAIRMAN, THE CHAIRMANSHIP, I WILL DO IT FOR YOU. I'VE ALWAYS FELT THE NAME HARPERS FERRY, ALWAYS KIND OF TRUMPING HARPERS FERRY. >> I DON'T THINK THERE IS AN ARMORY AT THE HARPERS FERRY. >> I OFTEN THINK ABOUT IT. >> SORRY. >> ATTORNEY? >> POINT OF ORDER. >> UNTIL THE CHAIR PASSES THE GAVEL BACK, YOU CAN'T MAKE A MOTION. >> YES I DID MAKE EMOTION. >> I BELIEVE THE COMMISSIONER SECONDED IT. >> AND I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. >> I WANT TO WITHDRAW THE MOTION AND REFER TO THE DISTRICT COMMISSIONER TO MAKE THE MOTION AT HARPERS FERRY. >> YES. >> MADAM CHAIR? >> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. >> THANK YOU, THIS IS BEEN A LONG TIME COMING FOR FOLKS, IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE NORTHBOUND JOURNEY, IT CAN BE A LITTLE BIT TEDIOUS AT RUSH HOUR. THIS WILL PROVIDE A NORTHBOUND TURN LANE, I WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR WORKING ON THIS FOR A LONG TIME, BUT CERTAINLY SINCE I'VE BEEN ELECTED, IT HAS BEEN A PRIORITY, 3+ YEARS, IT'S BUDGETED, READY TO ROCK 'N ROLL, WE OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO FINISH IT QUICKLY, WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION. >> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER , COMMISSIONER WELCH, COMMISSIONER CABAN, ANY COMMENTS OR DISCUSSION FROM THE COMMISSIONERS QUICK DID YOU HAVE ANY? NO. >> NO. COMMISSIONER MINOR SECONDED THE MOTION. >> COMMISSIONER MINOR SECONDED THE MOTION, AND I CERTAINLY SUPPORT THE MOTION OF COMMISSIONER WELCH, WE KNOW THAT BEING ENGAGED IN IMMINENT -- EMINENT DOMAIN PROCEEDINGS, , THE COUNTER OFFER THAT WAS MADE, WE WOULD PROBABLY ABSORB THAT AMOUNT. AND IF IT WENT INTO LITIGATION I THINK IN THE INTEREST OF TIME AND IMPROVING THAT PARTICULAR ONE STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND MOTION AS WELL. SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, LET IT BE KNOWN BY SAYING AYE. ANY OPPOSITION? HEARING NONE, THE MOTION CARRIES. MR. COUNTY MINISTRY. >> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR, THE ENEMY FOR YOU, NUMBER 17, SEEKING THE FULL BOARD'S CONSIDERATION OF FOR THE APPOINTMENTS OF CITIZENS TO THE COMMITTEE MEETING, AND SPORTS COUNCIL, AND WSB -- NWSB COMMITTEE, THE INCUMBENT MEMBERS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN PLACE ARE SEEKING REAPPOINTMENT. IN ADDITION TO THAT THE BOARD HAS EIGHT ADDITIONAL APPLICANTS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. AND OPTIONS ONE INTO ARE BEFORE YOU AND SEEKING YOUR DIRECTION ON THOSE. WILL -- WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER ON THIS ITEM. STANLEY SIMS? >> THANK YOU MR. SENS. >> MY NAME IS STANLEY SIMS, 1320 AVONDALE WAY, AND MY COMMENTS THIS AFTERNOON, IS MORE DIRECTLY TOWARDS THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE. WE ARE VERY BLESSED IN THIS COUNTY TO HAVE THE BEST WORLDWIDE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. THE LORD IS GOOD TO US. AND I LIKE EMBARRASSING THEM. AND IS THAT WITH THE PROCESS, MIKE WARM BUT I WOULD LIKE JUST LIKE US TO BROADEN OUR SCOPE. AND HOUSING AVAILABILITY. AND HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE ON THE BOARD, EXPERIENCING EVICTION. AND CURRENTLY AND WHETHER THAT BE HARD. OR THE RENTAL OR SOMETHING, THAT SHOULD BE A STANDING POSITION ON THAT BOARD. LET ME SAY, I'M NOT COMING FROM THIS, IS ACCUSATORY OR SOMETHING WRONG, NO, I THINK IN LIEU OF WHAT IS GOING ON IN OUR COMMUNITY, TO NOW, TO GIVE MORE SUBSTANCE TO THIS BOARD, WE COULD FIND AN APPLICANT WHO IS CURRENTLY LIVING UNDER, AND AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING SITUATION OR HUD SITUATION AND IT WOULD BRING SO MUCH CREDIBILITY TO THE ADVISORY BOARD. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND A COUNTY MINISTRY THERE, SO COULD BE UNDER HIS LEADERSHIP. AND YOU DON'T NEED ALL OF THE THREE MINUTES. >> THANK YOU MR. SIMS. >> THAT YOUR COUSIN. >> THANK YOU. >>> -- WE HAVE TWO APPLICANTS. I ENTERTAIN A MOTION, COMMISSIONER PROCTOR? >> MADAM CHAIR, I WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT. WITH THE NAMES HERE. >> DANIEL KAIO ANTHONY ANDERSON. >> IS ONE OF THESE INCUMBENT? IS THERE AN INCUMBENT? VICTOR KNOW THE INDIVIDUAL IN THEIR POSITION RESIGNED. I BELIEVE. >> OKAY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS, POLICE TO GET LOBBIED FOR THESE POSITIONS, AND I DON'T KNOW COMMISSIONERS IF YOU ARE GETTING LOBBIED, JUST A LOT OF SILENCE AROUND THESE APPOINTMENTS. -- >> ACKNOWLEDGING THAT COMMISSIONER. >> I WAS STARTLED. [ LAUGHTER ] IT IS GOOD TO SEE YOU. IF PEOPLE ARE NOT PANTING TO SERVE, WE ONLY HAVE TWO APPLICANTS FOR THIS PARTICULAR IMPORTANT ROLL, DOES THAT MEAN THAT THESE COMMITTEES HAVE PLAYED OUT, AND NOTHING DONE. TEST -- JUST DOESN'T CREATE A BUZZ AND I'M PONDERING, WHAT WE HAVE TWO APPLICANTS FOR THE MINORITY OF WOMEN IN THE SMALL BUSINESS ENTERPRISE IN THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. AND NO INSULT TO THE PEOPLE YOU HAVE APPLIED. AND THE COMMUNITY TO THOSE OPTIONS. AND ONCE UPON A TIME. AND GETTING SOMEONE TO SERVE. THEIR ANCIENTS TO DO IT, THIS PARTICULAR COMMITTEE, HAS SUCH LOW INTEREST FROM THE CITIZENS. SHOULD BE MORE NAMES. NOT SURE WHAT IT IS REFLECTIVE OF. MAYBE THE SPIRIT OF THE ADMINISTRATION THAT IS IN TALLAHASSEE, ECLIPSE, AFRICAN-AMERICAN HISTORY, AND SMOTHERS THE FIRST THREE. THEN JUST DON'T WANT TO SERVE. THE CAPITAL COUNTY OF FLORIDA, TWO APPLICANTS TO SERVE. MINORITY WOMEN SMALL BUSINESS ENTERPRISE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, SOMETHING IS WRONG. TAKING THOSE NUMBERS TO BE THE SPIRIT OF THE TIMES. THE CLOUD AGAINST WOMEN. IN THE ISSUE IN THE FIGHT, THE CLOUD AGAINST MINORITIES. SOMETHING IS WRONG. AND DISRESPECT. FOR THE TWO APPLICANTS. DEEP DESPERATE TO PEOPLE APPLIED FOR THE SPECIAL RULES, AND THE SEAT OF THE GOVERNMENT OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA, NOBODY SIGNS -- SIZES UP THE RUN, NOT INTERESTED. >> SIMILAR TO ME, THOSE THE COMMENTS I WANT TO MAKE, JUST RECOGNITION THAT SOMETHING IS WRONG. >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. COMMISSIONER? WE HAVE TWO APPLICANTS, ONE VACANT POSITION, COMMISSIONER MADDOX. >> A MOTION FOR DANIEL ANDREWS, FOR THE COMMITTEE. >> THANK YOU, IS THERE A SECOND. THANK YOU SO MUCH, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? >> MADAM CHAIR, IF YOU WILL ALLOW ME, I'M ALSO ON THE SPORTS COUNCIL AND I COULD JUST REAPPOINT -- >> I WOULD JUST LET THIS ONE PASS. AND WE WILL DO WITH THE SPORTS COUNCIL SEPARATE. COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE? >> MY COMET IS ACTUALLY A QUESTION ABOUT WHEN MR. SIMS BROUGHT UP, MADAM CHAIR, WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO WAIT UNTIL WE'VE DEALT WITH THESE APPOINTMENTS ARE GO AHEAD AND ASK NOW? >> I THINK PROBABLY WE WILL WAIT, WE WON'T DESPERATE WE WILL DISCUSS THE COMMENTS FROM THE CITIZENS OF THAT TIME, WE CAN WAIT UNTIL THE COMMISSION COMMENTS. THANK YOU. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF MS. DANIEL ANDREWS APPOINTMENT , LET IT BE KNOWN BY SAYING AYE ANY OPPOSITION? AND YOU. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER MADDOX, BACK TO YOU. >> A MOTION TO REAPPOINT JUDY ALEXANDER AND JASON -- TO THE TSC BOARD. >> THANK YOU, IT HAS BEEN MOVED BY THE COMMISSIONER MADDOX, AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CABAN, FOR TWO INDIVIDUALS, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? MADAME CLERK, DID YOU UNDERSTAND THE NAMES? REPEAT THE NAMES AGAIN COMMISSIONER MADDOX? >> JASON PAPPAS AND JUDY ALEXANDER. >> THEY HAVE SERVED BEFORE THEY ARE SEEKING REAPPOINTMENT? ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE REAPPOINTMENT, THE DIPINO BY SAYING AYE AYE IVO AYE. ANY OPPOSITION, HEARING NONE, THANK YOU SO MUCH. MR. COUNTY MINISTRY AT HER, I BELIEVE THAT CONCLUDES -- I WILL TURN IT BACK TO YOU. [ LAUGHTER ] >> MADAM CHAIR, THAT CONCLUDES THE GENERAL BUSINESS. THE GENERAL BUSINESS AGENDA, THANK YOU. >> EKU MR. COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, AT THIS POINT WHAT WE WILL DO IS GO TO COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION, AND THE BOARD, STARTING WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. >> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR, HAVE NOTHING FOR THE BOARD. >> THANK YOU, MR. COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR? >> THANK YOU I HAVE NOTHING MADAM CHAIR. >> COMMISSIONER WELSH? >> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR EXPEDITIOUS MEETING TODAY, I'M AFRAID THAT OUR DINNER WILL NOT BE HERE FOR LITTLE LONGER, SO WE'LL HAVE TO WAIT A LITTLE BIT. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK FOR A PROCLAMATION FOR RETIRING THE ASSISTANT SHERIFF STEVE HARRELSON AFTER 35 YEARS IN SERVICE AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. >> IS AT A MOTION? YES PICKER FIGURE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLS # MISSION OR WELLS, AND COMMISSIONER MINOR, ALL OF THOSE AGREEING SAY AYE. THE OPPOSITION? NONE, THANK YOU. >> MAY I, PLEASE. >> ALSO LIKE TO COMMEND OUR STAFF ON THE GREAT WORK THEY DID PREPRINT DESPERATE PREPARING IT FOR TALLAHASSEE, A GREAT TIME AND ENJOYED THAT, LET THEM KNOW I APPRECIATE THEIR WORK ON THE FLOAT AND PUT IT TOGETHER AND HAVING T-SHIRTS AND CANDY, AND ALL OF THAT STAFF, ALL THE PUBLIC WORKS GUYS. AND LASTLY I WOULD LIKE TO ASK FOR YOUR INDULGENCE, REQUESTING STAFF TO BRING BACK AN ITEM TO DEAL WITH THE GOLF CART ORDINANCE, PARTICULARLY AS IT RELATES TO WESTMINSTER OAKS AND THE FOLKS ALONG THE Mc MAYO, I BELIEVE THERE IS STATUTORY LANGUAGE OF STATE-LEVEL THAT MAY ALLOW US TO USE -- SORT OF CARVEOUT AND ORDINANCE THAT LIMITS THE SCOPE JUST TO THE RETIREMENT COMMUNITIES IN THE COUNTY IN TERMS OF GOLF CART USAGE. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK STAFF TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE ORDINANCE AGAIN AND SEE IF THEY COME BACK WITH AN ITEM THAT ALLOWS US TO BETTER FACILITATE SOME MOTION ACROSS Mc MAYO, THEY HAVE PROPERTIES ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD, AND THERE ARE SOME INSURANCE CONSIDERATIONS , AND >> >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, LET IT BE KNOWN BY SAYING AYE. AND LET THEM BE IN FAVOR. ANY OPPOSITION , I'M SORRY COMMISSIONER MADDOX? >> I WAS GOING TO ASK FOR THE MOTION, THAT'S FINE. >> YOU ARE NOT GOING TO AMEND THE MOTION QUICK >> I WAS GOING FOR THE AMENDMENT. >> THE MOTION PASSED, IF WE GET TO YOU, IF YOU WANT TO DO ANOTHER MOTION, OKAY. ARE YOU DONE? >> YES. >> THANKS SO MUCH, COMMISSIONER PROCTOR QUICK >> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR, TERESA BROXTON IS IN THE HOUSE AND I WANTED TO -- YOU CAN STAND UP TERESA, OUTSTANDING WORK THAT TERESA IS DOING IN GIVING LEADERSHIP TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY COORDINATING COUNCIL. AND I AM A HARD DRINK OF WATER TO SWALLOW AS A CHAIRPERSON THERE, AND SUFFERING, AND DOING A GREAT JOB, LESS PACKET OF INFORMATION, THAT YOU ARE PRESENTED, JUST OUTSTANDING, GETTING BETTER AND BETTER, I WANT TO THANK YOU PUBLICLY FOR ALL THAT YOU DO STAFFING AND COORDINATE. ALL THE PEOPLE WHO SIT AROUND THIS TABLE, THANK YOU SO MUCH. SECONDLY MADAM CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS, I WANTED TO CITE THE OUTSTANDING WORK THE LEADERSHIP, IN MARCH. WATCHING THE CELEBRATION, THE BICENTENNIAL, WITH THIS POST, HAS BEEN EXQUISITELY WONDERFUL AND OUTSTANDING, THE GOSPEL CONCERT SHE IN HERE. OH GOOD. >> YOU ARE A HIDDEN FIGURE. AND ONE DID YOU TO KNOW THAT YOU'RE DOING A BEAUTIFUL JOB, ALL PARTS OF THE BICENTENNIAL, MOVING, YOU CAN SEE THE ENERGY IN THE ITERATION OF SPRINGTIME TALLAHASSEE, EVERYWHERE, AND I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW TAKING NOTES IS A MEMBER, REPRESENTING THE TOURIST DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL. HOLDING A VERY SPECIAL SEED, REPRESENTING OUR BOARD. AND WITH THE SYNERGY, AND PEOPLE LOVE TO WORK WITH HER, THE GOSPEL CONCERT, THAT'S WHY IT DIDN'T COME OUT THAT FRIDAY NIGHT, AND IN THE RAIN, NEVER DATED, AND THE DRIVE, STOP RAINING ABOUT 630, THE UNDERSTANDING IS THEY WENT THROUGH IT AND PEOPLE CAME OUT AND YOLANDA ADAMS, MY DUET PARTNER, YOLANDA. AND THAT'S MY DUET PARTY. FANTASTIC. THE GOSPEL ON THE KICKOFF. GREAT JOB. >> FOR LEADERSHIP. FOR THAT POST. AND A PUBLISHED NEWSPAPER. AND THE COMMISSIONERS HAD DISRESPECTED. AND THE PREVIOUS MEETING, I WANT TO SAY TO THE PUBLIC. TO MR. VON WILSON WHO WROTE THE LETTER, SPECIAL TO YOU MADAM CHAIR. AND THE LETTER IS NOT A FLICK OF A PERSON. A VERY SUBSTANTIVE GUY. I KNOW HE GAVE MUCH TO THOSE WORDS. I WANT YOU TO KNOW, SOMETIMES IN THE EFFORTS FOR THAT, NEVER WANTED YOU TO THINK THAT I DISRESPECT YOU, SO I HAVE WRITTEN AN APOLOGY WHICH I'VE SHARED WITH THIS BOARD , THE CITY COMMISSIONERS AND EVERYBODY ELSE WHO I SEND A COPY TO, AND THE OUTLOOK. AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW, THAT YOU ARE INDEED A NIKON. AND A HISTORIC FIGURE. YOUR LEADERSHIP OF THIS DAIS, IS A STORE, YOUR LEADERSHIP IS A STORE, AND NEVER HAD A PERSON LIKE YOU TO BE THE CHAIRPERSON OF BLUEPRINT, THERE IS NOTHING I WOULD DO OR WANT TO, TO DISRESPECT YOU, DON'T TELL ANYBODY I SAID IT, BUT I LOVE YOU A WHOLE LOT. AND I LOVED YOU BEFORE I WAS A COMMISSIONER. AND HE WAS A COMMISSIONER, NONE OF THESE TITLES ARE GOING TO COME BETWEEN WHAT I FEEL ABOUT YOU, I FEEL ABOUT YOU LIKE THAT, SO FORGIVE ME AND I'M SORRY, I LOVE YOU VERY MUCH. MADAM CHAIR. >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER PROCTOR. >> YES MA'AM. >> I SAW SOMETHING IN THE NEWSPAPER TODAY, AND I'M EXCITED, SWIRLING AS WE ARE GETTING THE YOUNG PEOPLE SAID ABOUT, THE SUMMER YOUTH PROGRAM. AND THE ADMINISTRATOR, IF WE ARE GOING TO INTERNET OURSELVES AND STUDENTS WORKING INDIVIDUALLY. AND DURING COVID, AND WE DIDN'T GO THERE BUT ARE WE BACK AT THAT POINT, THAT WE ARE ENTERTAINING INTERNS QUICK >> PART OF THE PROGRAM, YOU CAN APPLY FOR THE POSITIONS WITH THE OFFICES. >> IT GOES UP TO WHAT AGE, 24? >> YES. >> TELLS ME YES. >> THANK YOU. FINALLY, COMMISSIONERS, I WANTED TO ASK THE COUNTIES, THE COUNTY MINISTRY AT HER, THE NATURE OF GOVERNING, HAS AN ELEMENTAL ACCOUNTABILITY, AND THE NATION DESPERATE NATURE OF GOVERNING, HAS AN ESSENCE OF KNOWING WHAT MONEY IS DOING CUT IS IT SAFE, SECURE, FINISHING, I WANTED TO ASK THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, IN LIGHT OF REPORTS FROM THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT , TALLAHASSEE, I CAN KEEP UP WITH THE MONEY, WORD IS BEING SWINDLED, WE WERE LIKE THAT, MR. ADMINISTRATOR, IS THE FINANCIAL HEALTH OF LEON COUNTY GOVERNMENT AND OUR MONEY SECURE? IS IT AUDITED, CAN WE HOLD OUR HEADS UP THAT THERE'S NO SHAME IN OUR GAME WITH RESPECT TO MONEY, CAN YOU PLEASE COMMENT ON THE STABILITY OF OUR FUNDS, AND OUR ACCOUNTS, WERE THE POLICY IS OCCURRING. >> MADAM CHAIR QUICK >> COMMISSIONER PROCTOR, I CAN DO THAT. WE HAVE INDEPENDENT AUDITS ARE CONDUCTED ON AN ANNUAL BASIS AND INCLUDE IN THE PURVIEW OF THE AUDIT ARE AN EXAMINATION OF INTERNAL CONTROLS. RELATED TO ACCOUNTS PAYABLE AND LOTS OF OTHER ITEMS THAT ARE INCLUDED THERE. WE HAVE CLEAN AUDITS, IN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, NO NOTES OF ANY KIND RELATED TO ANY OF THAT WHICH YOU SPEAK TO. SO YES, WE ARE IN VERY GOOD SHAPE. >> GOOD. >> COMMISSIONERS, I WANTED TO ASKED THE QUESTION PUBLICLY TO THE COUNTIES MINISTRY AT HER, IN LIGHT OF ALL KINDS OF REPORTS ABOUT MISSING MONEY. AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT REPORT. WE HAVE NEVER HAD THAT KIND OF REPORT. THIS IS JUST ANOTHER FACTOR IN TERMS OF TALKING ABOUT THE INTERNATIONALLY RECOGNIZED ADMINISTRATOR, THE FACT THAT THE SHIP IS FISCALLY TIGHT, AND THE NUMBERS, IF THE PUBLISHED NUMBERS, THEY MEAN SOMETHING, AND IT MATTERS. AND THE INTEGRITY OF RESEARCH, I WANT TO COMPLIMENT YOU FOR THE YEARS IN WHICH WE HAVEN'T HEARD LOST MONEY AND MISSING MONEY. SO THANK YOU FOR ACCOUNTABILITY. AND ACCOUNTING PRINCIPLES OF THE BOARD. AND TRANSPARENCY OF THE PUBLIC, WITH THE MONEY STANDS FOR. WERE MONEY IS GOING, AND WHAT IT MATTERS, THE FINAL POINT TODAY, COUNTY ATTORNEY, $11.4 MILLION IS COLLECTED FOR UNINCORPORATED CITIZENS AND RESIDENTS OF BUSINESSES. THE CITY LITERALLY TRANSFERS ALL OF THAT AMOUNT TO THE GENERAL FUNDS. WHAT CAN WE DO, NOT TO BE THE THIRD PARTY IN BETWEEN THE GO-BETWEEN THAT IS COLLECTING MONEY TO THE COUNTY. THAT IS NOT BEING USED FOR FIRE SERVICES. BECAUSE OF THE $51 MILLION , 22% AND THAT THEM THE AMOUNT THAT WE COLLECT. AT UNINCORPORATED AREAS, DOESN'T GO TO THE COFFERS. IN THE MEANTIME , THOSE WHO SERVE UNINCORPORATED AREAS, WITH THE CARE AND PROTECTION, BEING TOLD THERE'S NOT ENOUGH MONEY FOR THEM. WHY ARE WE COLLECTING MONEY. NAMED BY THE SERVICE FEE. AND THE MONEY IS NOT THERE TO SUSTAIN SALARIES OF FIRE PERSONS. YET THE COMMUNITY HAS HAD NEARLY 9% INCREASE IN CITY PROPERTY TAXES. TO UNDERGIRD AND SPECIFICALLY TO SUSTAIN THE POLICE FORCE. WE HAVE A FEE, THAT RAISES THE MONEY TO TAKE CARE OF NEEDS, AND THE COUNTIES GOVERNMENT, IT IS FUNCTIONAL DEFECTIVE CONSOLIDATED AGENCY OF CITY AND COUNTY, THAT WE PUT IN, AND IT'S NOT BEING USED, AND IS THERE A STATUTORY MANDATE , TAKING MONEY FROM THE CITIZENS. NOT GOING TO THE NEEDS WHEN THE MONEY IS TAKEN AWAY AND TRANSFERRED, GOD ONLY KNOWS HOW TO TRACK IT, THE GENERAL FUND, SOMETHING IS WRONG ABOUT THAT, I DON'T FEEL GOOD ABOUT CHARGING PEOPLE FOR THE SERVICE. AND NONE OF THAT MONEY, BEING USED, ALL OF IT, $11.4 MILLION WOULD TAKE UP GOES SOMEPLACE ELSE, SOMETHING IS WRONG, BEING USED LIKE STOOGES. AND WHAT CAN WE DO, ARE WE DUTY-BOUND. AND THE STANDING OF THE SERVICES, IF WE ARE DUTY-BOUND, HOPING TO FOOL THE MONEY, CITIES NOT USING THE MONEY. >> YES MA'AM ATTORNEY. >> >> AND THE LAST YEAR, AND RETAINING THE OUTSIDE CONSULTANTS, AND CONDUCTING BASICALLY A RATE STUDY, AND THE CONSULTANT LOOKED AT THE DIFFERENT GEOGRAPHICAL AREAS. AND REMEMBERING AT THE TIME, AND ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT THE QUALITY THE FIRE SERVICE BEING PROVIDED IN CERTAIN AREAS OF TIME. AND AGAIN THE CONSULTANT, THAT'S WHAT THEY DO, THEY CONDUCT GREAT STUDIES, THAT'S THEIR EXPERTISE, WHAT RATES WERE APPROPRIATE FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF SERVICE, WHETHER WAS COMMERCIAL OR RESIDENTIAL, IN THE DIFFERENT AREAS, THEY BROUGHT THE RESULTS OF THAT STUDY BACK TO THE BOARD, AND TE BOARD ADOPTED A FEE SCHEDULE OF RATES WERE THEN ENCLOSED BY RESIDENTS OF THE UNINCORPORATED AREA. THIS BODY HAS ESTABLISHED THOSE RATES BASED UPON THE WORK OF THE OUTSIDE CONSULTANT. WE HAVE LOCAL AGREEMENTS WITH THE CITY OF TALLAHASSEE, WHICH PROVIDE SERVICES IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS, BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE OUR OWN. I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHAT THE CITY DOES WITH THE MONEY ONCE THEY GET IT THOUGH, I DON'T HAVE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT. >> MADAM CHAIR, I APPRECIATE THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND I DO REMEMBER THOSE CONSULTANTS COMING TO US AND I GUESS INCREASING FOR MY BELIEVE ONE $85 UP TO $223. PER HOUSEHOLD. IN MY COMMISSIONERS, AND ON THE MONEY THAT WE TAKE UP, IS ACTUALLY LEFT IN THE SERVICES ACCOUNT. ALL THE MONEY THAT WE COLLECT IS ACTUALLY TRANSFERRED TO THE GENERAL FUND. THE QUESTION IS, IF YOU MOVE THE MONEY TO THE GENERAL FUND COMING OUT OF FIRE SERVICES, IS THERE EXPECTED BUDGETING, DENOTED AS A REVENUE STREAM. AND HOUSE A PROJECTED THAT YOU HAVE ALL OF MILLION DOLLARS TO COVER THIS AND THIS, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IS IT FORETOLD THAT $11 MILLION WILL GO INTO A GENERAL FUND DIRECTLY FROM THE FIRE SERVICES? I THINK WE NEED TO ROLLBACK FIRE SERVICE. I FEEL LIKE THERE IS NO NEED FOR $11 MILLION, I FEEL LIKE WE ARE OVERCHARGING THE COMMUNITY, THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, OVER 20% OF ALL MONIES COLLECTED IS NOT USED IN FIRE SERVICES. SOMETHING IS DREADFULLY WRONG TO CHARGE AMERICAN CITIZENS FOR A FEE. THEY DON'T GET THE VOTE FOR A CITY COMMISSION. THIS IS A FEE VEXATION WITHOUT PRESENTATION. IS NOT TAXATION, IT IS WITHOUT A VOTE. I AM DEEPLY DISTURBED. AND I JUST LAID IT OUT, TO SAY $11 MILLION. DOESN'T MEAN A THING. IT'S BEING USED FOR PURPOSES UNRELATED TO THAT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. >> COMMISSIONER PROCTOR. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. I DON'T REALLY HAVE BUSINESS TO DISCUSS BUT IF YOU THINK USE BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE PUBLICLY. INC. YOU MADAM CHAIR FOR ALLOWING US TO HAVE A ROBUST CONVERSATION EARLIER TODAY ABOUT LAKE MUNSON, I LIKE THAT YOU ALLOW US TO BACK TO GO BACK AND FORTH TO COMMON GROUND THAT WORKS FOR THE COMMUNITY, AND I THINK THE FOR DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, ANOTHER PUBLIC ACKNOWLEDGMENT, THEY ARE BEING EXTREMELY GOOD TO THE COUNTY REACHING OUT TO THE OFFICE TO THE NATURAL BRIDGE ROAD, WE GET A FREQUENT COMPLAINT FROM OUR CONSTITUENTS DOWN THERE, FOLKS GOING TO CHURCH ON SUNDAY, NOT BEING ABLE TO PULL OUT OR GET ACROSS THE HIGHWAY, WE REACHED OUT TO THE OFFICE TO SEE IF WE DO A STUDY IF THE TRAFFIC LIGHT WAS NEEDED AND THEY GOT BACK TO US IMMEDIATELY AND SAID NO PROBLEM, SO I WANT TO GIVE A THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ALL THE WORK THEY ARE DOING. AND ADDITIONALLY, COMING ALONG, THINK YOU FOR PUBLIC WORKS AND ALL THE WORK THAT THEY ARE DOING, A LOT OF POSITIVE FEEDBACK FROM FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY, AND IT'S ACTUALLY AN EMERGENCY EVACUATION ROUTE, I'M EXCITED TO SEE THAT COME TO FRUITION. LESLIE THIS WEEKEND, THE SATURDAY IS THE FIRST FARMERS MARKET KICKOFF. AND THE LARGE COMMISSIONERS, IF YOU WANT TO JOIN US I WILL BE THERE, SO JUST BRING SOME MONEY SO YOU CAN SHARE IT AROUND. THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER MINOR? >> I MAY NOT HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO DELIVER COMMAS BEFORE 6 PM BUT I WILL CONTINUE TO ABOUT FIVE MINUTES BEFORE THE 6 PM -- >> BEFORE FIVE. >> OH GOT YOU, MY GLASSES ON, KIND OF SQUINTING, THANK YOU, SORRY ABOUT THAT. I DID HAVE THE COMMENTS I WAS GOING TO MAKE THANK YOU. [ LAUGHTER ] YOU ARE RIGHT, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. >> I DIDN'T LOOK AT THE ECLIPSE AT ALL YESTERDAY, I DIDN'T DO THAT. [ LAUGHTER ] >> I WILL NOT TAKE AS LONG AS THAT [ LAUGHTER ] I WANT TO TALK ABOUT AN ISSUE THAT I THINK WE PROBABLY ALL HAVE IN OUR DISTRICTS, THE TWO AT-LARGE FOLKS FOR SURE, I HAVE NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE THE NEIGHBORS TAKE GREAT CARE OF MAINTAINING THEIR HOMES AND THEIR YARDS, AS BEST THEY CAN, BUT OFTEN, AND A COUPLE OF THEM THAT IS PARTICULAR, THERE IS ONE PROPERTY THAT IS AN EYESORE FOR THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IN ONE CASE YOU HAD A PROPERTY THAT HAS BEEN CONDEMNED, AND PLYWOOD BOARDS IN THE WINDOWS, THERE ARE RODENTS COMING TO THE HOME, CAUSING A HEALTH HAZARD FOR THE NEIGHBORS NEARBY. AND I GOT ANOTHER EXAMPLE WHERE THE YARDS ARE JUST NOT MODE AND THE LEAVES ARE AS HIGH AS A PERSON, SO I'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS IN THESE CASES AND MANY DISCUSSIONS WITH THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR WITH CODE COMPLIANCE AND I THINK WE GOT PRETTY DECENT CODE COMPLIANCE POLICIES, A BALANCE BETWEEN PROPERTY RIGHTS OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS VERSUS MAINTAINING THE OVERALL AESTHETICS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR THE COMMON GOOD AND MAKING SURE THAT ONE PROPERTY OWNER DOESN'T NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE OWNERS NEARBY, SO IT IS THAT DELICATE BALANCE. ONE THING THAT THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT IS WHAT CAN WE DO TO HELP THE NEIGHBORS THAT ARE IN SITUATIONS WHERE THERE IS A PROPERTY THAT IS FRANKLY DEGRADING THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO, I'LL WAIT UNTIL COMMISSIONER PROCTOR IS DONE. >> I LIKE TO MAKE SURE YOU HERE'S WHAT I SAY. IS ALL RIGHT, I WILL GO. SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS PROPOSE TO MAKE EMOTION FROM THE COUNTY MISTREAT HER TO PROVIDE TO EACH OF US JUST SOME MATERIALS AND DIRECTIONS ON WHAT WE CAN DO THAT I GIVE DIRECTED HER NEIGHBORS TO KIND OF EXPLAIN IN SOME EASY-TO-READ DETAIL THE COMPLAINTS PROCESS, HOW DO YOU FILE A COMPLAINT, WHAT OF THE CODE COMPLIANCE REGULATIONS THAT COUNTY STAFF WILL CONSIDER WHEN IT COMES TO DECIDING WHETHER OR NOT SOMEONE IS OUT OF COMPLIANCE, AND FINALLY THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS AVAILABLE TO HER NEIGHBORS SUCH AS CREATING A COVENANT WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BECAUSE WHAT MIGHT BE A STANDARD ONE NEIGHBORHOOD MIGHT BE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT IN ANOTHER. SO IT'S COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FOR US AS A COUNTY TO HAVE COUNTYWIDE POLICIES BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH DIVERSITY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. MY MOTION IS TO PROVIDE THOSE TYPES OF MATERIALS TO US SO WE CAN PASS THEM ON TO OUR CONSTITUENTS AND NEIGHBORHOODS, AND HAVE THEM TAKE THE NEXT STEP, HAVE THEM DECIDE WHAT THEY WANT TO DO. IF THEIR NEIGHBORS THE FILE COMPLAINT IS IN ORDER, THEY CAN MAKE THE COMPLAINT, IF THEY WANT TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE CODE REQUIREMENTS, THEY HAVE AN EASY WAY TO COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE AND THEN COMMISSIONER CABAN THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. >> I'M SORRY, THAT WE'RE GOING TO SUPPORT IT, WE HAVE THOSE PROCESSES, I KNOW THE EXPERIENCE OF BEING IN THOSE HOUSES FOR REASON, AND PEOPLE CAN CHOOSE TO LIVE THERE IF THEY WANT TO SO FOR THAT REASON. >> I DO KNOW THAT THE CITY DOES HAVE THEIR OWN SPECIFIC PROVISIONS, I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S IN AN ORDINANCE, HEARING N ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, TO BE KNOWN BY SAYING AYE ANY OPPOSITION? >> NAY. YES. WOULD THINK MR. SIMS ARE BRINGING UP WITH SOUNDS A GREAT IDEA CONSIDERING ESTABLISHING ONE QUALIFICATION ADDING TO THE MANY , THE NATURE OF THE APPOINTEES TO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE. I WAS LOOKING THROUGH IT AND IT IS JUST ESTABLISHED BY THE COUNTY, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE NINE MEMBERS, AND A HANDFUL OF WAYS THAT PEOPLE CAN BE PART OF AN ORGANIZATION, THAT'S NOT ONE OF THOSE LISTED. IS THAT CORRECT? >> YES. >> SURE. FOR THE COMMITTEE IN PARTICULAR, WE ARE SEEING THERE, AND AND THAT SPECIFIC WE HAVE SOME LEGAL ROOM. AGAIN OFF-LINE. AND BACKED THE BOARD, I TOTALLY GET WE'RE COMING FROM AND WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE, IF YOU GOT WIGGLE ROOM, GOT THAT BACK AND IF WE DON'T WE WILL LET YOU KNOW CERTAINLY. >> EXCELLENT. TO MAKE OFFICIAL I MOVE THAT WE ASK STAFF TO BRING BACK AN ITEM FOR US TO CONSIDER ADDING A QUALIFICATION TO ONE OF THE MEMBERS OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE OR LAUGHTER ] COMMISSIONER MADDOX? >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS, I RECEIVED A LETTER FROM THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF STATE, INDICATING THAT THE JOHN G RILEY HOUSES BEING CONSIDERED, A PROPOSED NOMINATION FOR THE HOUSE TO BE PART OF THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES, IT IS RIGHT HERE, I THOUGHT IT WAS SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD NEEDED TO BE AWARE OF. IN THE FIRST MEETING, STARTING TO THE PROCESS IS MAY 2, AND THEY'VE GIVEN A WEBINAR AND SO WHAT I CAN DO, IF ANYBODY MIGHT BE INTERESTED, WE CAN MAKE COPIES OF THIS AND GIVE IT TO THE COMMISSIONERS, BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS GREAT JUST TO BE CONSIDERED BEING A PROPOSED NOMINEE FOR THE NATIONAL REGISTER, I WOULD JUST PASS THE LITTER AROUND. AND YOU GUYS CAN SEE IT. THE OTHER THING I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION IS, THIS COMING FRIDAY, APRIL 12 AT 7 PM, THE FLORIDA A& M UNIVERSITY, IS RECOGNIZING THE FACT THAT THE FOOTBALL TEAM IS THE CHAMPIONS, SO THEY ARE HAVING THE CHAMPIONSHIP RING RECEPTION, THAT'S AWESOME, THIS FRIDAY EVENING, AT 7:00 AT THE GRAND BALLROOM, AND LEON COUNTY, LET ME READ THIS AGAIN, I BELIEVE LEON COUNTY IS A SPONSOR, IT IS A SPONSOR, I THINK THAT'S GREAT THAT WE ARE SUPPORTIVE. THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO FOR THE PEOPLE OF LEON COUNTY AND THANK YOU COMMISSIONER WELSH FOR ADDRESSING A NEED THAT WE -- >> VERY SPECIAL MARC MILIA, >> THINK THE COMMISSIONERS. COMMISSIONER MADDOX QUICK >> MADAM CHAIR, A LONG WORKING RELATIONSHIP. TURNBULL, ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS I CAN SAY THAT TRULY TRUST THE PROCESS. AND AND WITH THE PROCESS TO TRUST BRING THE ISSUE TO US THAT WE WILL ADDRESS IT. I WILL ALWAYS APPRECIATE IT. THE HUMBLENESS IT TAKES, AND TRUST IN THE PROCESS. AND TRUST ENOUGH TO ALLOW US TO WORK THINGS THROUGH THE PROCESS WITHOUT COMMITTING THE EXPERTISE, WE KNOW YOU KNOW THE STUFF ALMOST AS GOOD IF NOT BETTER THAN US, SO I APPRECIATED THAT. AND SECONDLY COMING OUT OF WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH, YOU SET THE TONE FOR THE STRENGTH OF THE STATURE, AND THE PROFESSIONAL NATURE OF THE WOMEN THAT CAME AFTER YOU ON THIS COMMISSION, IN COMMISSIONER CHAIRWOMAN, CUMMINGS, CERTAINLY EXEMPLIFIES THAT, THINK ABOUT THE STRONG WOMEN I'VE SERVED WITH COMMISSIONER. AND COMMISSIONER DOZIER AND OTHERS. SEEING YOU STAND THERE REALLY WARMS MY HEART BECAUSE I KNOW THE GROUND THAT YOU LAID, NOT JUST AT THE COUNTY BUT ALSO THE STATE LEVEL, FOR YOUNG LADIES WHO WANT TO COME BEHIND YOU AND LEAD IN THE WAY THAT YOU LEAD. I APPRECIATE THAT, THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE? >> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER TURNBULL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE I CAN ADD, A GREAT EXAMPLE OF BEING COMMISSIONER, NO-NOES SURPRISE, WHEN I FIRST STARTED, SOME OF THE FIRST MEETINGS, GROUPS LED BY COUNTERPARTS IN TURNBULL -- AND TURNBULL, HOW YOU SEE IT , COMMISSIONER PROCTOR, TYTON WRIGHT, THANK YOU FOR CONTINUING TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY. >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE. AND COMMISSIONER TURNBULL, I CERTAINLY ECHO ALL OF THE SENTIMENTS OF THE FELLOW COMMISSIONERS APPEAR, BUT MORE THAN THEM, I STAND PARTIALLY ON YOUR SHOULDERS, AS WELL AS ON THE SHOULDERS OF OTHER WOMEN WHO HAVE SET UP HERE, WE HONOR YOU AND APPRECIATE YOU, EVEN IN RETIREMENT, STILL ADVOCATING JUST LIKE YOU WERE A STRONG ADVOCATE UP HERE, WHEN YOU ARE IN MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION, WE APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENCE WITH US TODAY, MAY GOD BLESS YOU. LET'S GIVE A ROUND OF APPLAUSE. >> [ APPLAUSE ] >> COMMISSIONER PROCTOR QUICK >> HAVE WE COMMEMORATED HER NAME? IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD DO A THING. >> WE'LL CHECK. >> THEY CAN COMMISSIONERS AND AUDIENCE, AT THIS POINT WE WILL TAKE A RECESS UNTIL 6 PM, WE HAVE FOUR PUBLIC HEARINGS SO WE WILL BE BACK AT 6:00.