>> GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. WELCOME TO OUR BUDGET WORKSHOP. A SECOND BUDGET WORKSHOP OF 2025. THANK YOU FOR COMING TO THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS HERE AS WELL. WE ARE GOING TO GET STARTED HERE COMMISSIONERS I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT WE'VE ALL HAD OUR BRIEFING WITH THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND WE APPRECIATE HIS TIME AND SOME OF US HAVE MET WITH HIM AND OUR STAFF AS WELL AND HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE WELL BRIEFED ON THE INFORMATION THAT IS BEFORE US TODAY. I DO NOT SEE ANY REASON WHY WE SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO GET TO THE INFORMATION WITH ANY INFORMATION COMMENTS AND MORE OR BE OUT OF HERE IN TWO HOURS OR LESS. ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE WE HAVE A GREAT SUMMARY THAT WAS PREPARED FOR US. BY THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND THE STAFF. IN AS MUCH AS WE REQUESTED INFORMATION ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR WE ARE ON PAGE 28 AND I WOULD LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I RECOGNIZE SOME COMMISSIONERS ARE OUT OF THE OFFICE RIGHT NOW. FOR OPTIONS ONE, TWO, THREE AND FOUR FOR THE COMMISSIONERS. COMMISSIONER MADDOX IS BACK. ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE I WOULD LIKE TO ENTERTAIN THE MOTION FOR OPTIONS ONE, TWO, THREE AND FOUR? >> MADAM CHAIR WE ARE PREPARED TO DO A PRESENTATION PRIOR TO THAT. IF IT FITS THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD. >> WE WILL HEAR THE PRESENTATION >> AND MORNING TEMPERATURES AND WELCOME TO YOUR FIRST WORKSHOP ON THE FISCAL YEAR 25 BUDGET. I MAY AS WELL GO OFF SCRIPT RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE GETTING THAT FEEDBACK BUT COULD YOU HELP US OUT THERE IN THE BACK? NORMALLY WE LIKE YOUR FEEDBACK MR. COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR BUT NOT IN THIS CASE. CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? OKAY. THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS AGAIN AS I HAVE SAID I'LL GO OFF SCRIPT RIGHT OFF THE BAT IT WAS BOUND TO HAPPEN ANYWAYS. WHEN I SOLD BRENTZ ON MY WAY AND IT REMINDED ME THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE BEEN TOGETHER SINCE THE APRIL 11th RAIN EVENT. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME UP WITH A NAME FOR THAT RAIN EVENT BECAUSE IT CERTAINLY EARNED A NAME. I WANTED TO QUICKLY ACKNOWLEDGE AT THE RISK OF PREEMPTING COMMISSIONERS BECAUSE I KNOW THEY WERE ENGAGED THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY AND THROUGHOUT THAT EVENT. AND CERTAINLY GOT TO SEE THOSE RESPONSE EFFORTS THROUGHOUT. I'D LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE WORK OF OUR STAFF BRENT POWELL ANDREW LIGHTLY AND THE WHOLE TEAM OF PUBLIC WORKS. CERTAINLY MATT CAVELL AND ALL OF THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND THE COORDINATION EFFORT THAT TOOK PLACE. LIKE ALL OTHER EVENTS WE WILL BE LEARNING FROM THIS ONE AND WE WILL CERTAINLY HAVE TIME TO CELEBRATE AGAIN THE EFFORTS OF OUR STAFF. AT THIS POINT IN TIME WE WANTED TO QUICKLY ACKNOWLEDGE THOSE EFFORTS WE ARE STILL DEALING ITH SOME OF THOSE ISSUES WITH LOCALIZED IMPACTS AROUND THE COUNTY. I DID WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THOSE EFFORTS RIGHT OFF THE BAT. WITH THAT, GREAT JOB TO ALL OF THOSE IN ATTENDANCE. COMMISSIONERS I WILL GET US STARTED HERE. A REMINDER AND YOU MAY NOTICE FROM THE FOLKS ASSEMBLED AROUND THE TABLE WE DO HAVE A TEAM HERE WHO ARE ABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. JUST A REMINDER YOU WILL HAVE ANOTHER WORKSHOP IN JUNE IN THAT DIRECTION WILL BE RECONCILED WITH MORE REFINED REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE DATA THAT WE HAVE IN DETAIL THAT MAY BE AVAILABLE AT THAT TIME. AT THIS TIME THE BOARD IS PROVIDING A LOT OF BALANCE AND FUNDING PRIORITIES WITHIN THE STRATEGIC PLAN THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE BOARD IN A VERY DELIBERATE MANNER AT VARIOUS STAGES THROUGHOUT THE BUDGET DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. WITH ALL OF THAT BEING SAID WE WILL GET THE BALL ROLLING. SHONDA BRADLEY WILL FOLLOW ME WITH SOME ADDITIONAL DETAILS ON THE BUDGET OVERVIEWS. WITH THAT, IN RECENT YEARS AS THE BOARD IS WELL AWARE WE HAVE BUDGETED OUR WAY THROUGH A GREAT RECESSION NATURAL DISASTERS AND A GLOBAL PANDEMIC. AND MOST RECENTLY THROUGH HISTORIC HIGH INFLATION. THERE IS NOT A LOTS THAT WE HAVE NOT SEEN OR BEEN ABLE TO ADDRESS EFFECTIVELY. WITH AS MUCH STABILITY AS POSSIBLE TO THE TAXPAYER AND THE CENTRAL QUALITY OF SERVICES TO OUR CITIZENS. THIS BUDGET IS BEING DEVELOPED AMID ITS OWN UNIQUE CHALLENGES WHICH WE WILL TALK ABOUT TODAY. IT ALSO FOLLOWS A TRADITION IN MAKING PRUDENT AND TIMELY DECISIONS WITHIN THE BUDGET PROCESS TO BEST POSITION THE BOARD TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES AS WELL AS ANY OTHER ISSUES THAT WE MAY NEVER FULLY BE ABLE TO PREPARE FOR BUT WE WILL CERTAINLY ENCOUNTER IN THE FUTURE. I WOULD LIKE TO EMPHASIZE THAT WE ARE STILL EARLY IN THE BUDGET DEVELOPMENT PROCESS BUT I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT AND PAINT SOME BROAD STROKES OF WHERE WE ARE AT THIS TIME AND PROVIDE A SNAPSHOT OF THE PROCESS GOING FORWARD AS REFLECTED WITHIN YOUR MATERIALS THE PRELIMINARY BUDGET TAKES A RESPONSIBLE AND CAUTIOUS APPROACH ANTICIPATING MODEST PROPERTY TAX REVENUE GROWTH FOR FY 25 AND BEYOND. AND YOU WILL CERTAINLY SEE THAT REFLECTED IN YOUR MATERIALS. IT ALSO ACCOUNTS FOR CONTINUED HIGH INFLATION. WE ANTICIPATE TO BE WITHIN A CONTINUED HIGH INFLATIONARY ENVIRONMENT IN FY 25 AND PERHAPS BEYOND THAT AS WE MAY PERHAPS HAVE A LAG IN RECOVERY THERE. IT ALLOCATES THE ARPA FUNDING WHICH HAS BEEN CRITICAL TO OUR BUDGET BALANCING STRATEGIES OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS. YOU WILL HEAR ABOUT $57 MILLION WITH THIS BUDGET THAT CONTEMPLATES THAT LAST CRITICAL FUNDING LEVEL AND IT ALSO PLANS FOR CONTINUED LEGISLATIVE MANDATES AND COST SHIFTS FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS. CERTAINLY AS THE BOARD IS WELL AWARE WE CONTINUE TO KEEP YOU MONITORED THROUGH THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS THAT WE WERE CERTAINLY SPARED THE IMPACTS THAT WERE PROPOSED DURING THIS LEGISLATIVE SESSION AND LOOK QUITE LIKELY TO PASS WHICH WOULD'VE HAD CRIPPLING IMPACT AND NO HYPERBOLE THERE ON THIS PARTICULAR FY BUDGET. WHILE WE SPARED THOSE WE FULLY ANTICIPATE THEM TO BE REINTRODUCED IN THE NEXT LEGISLATIVE SESSION AND BEYOND. AS SUCH CONSTRAINING EXPENDITURE GROWTH WILL BE CENTRAL TO PROVIDING THE MAXIMUM FLEXIBILITY TO THE BOARD NOW AND IN SUBSEQUENT BUDGET YEARS. WHICH MEANS THAT WE DO OUR VERY BEST TO ENSURE YOU HAVE AS MANY OPTIONS AS POSSIBLE AND AVAILABLE TO YOU TO DEAL WITH A SIGNIFICANT FISCAL IMPACT IN ANY BUDGET YEAR. ESPECIALLY WHEN THOSE IMPACTS OCCUR. GIVEN THE LANDSCAPE THAT WE FIND OURSELVES IN TODAY. WHILE CONSERVATIVE THE PRELIMINARY BUDGET IS SUFFICIENT TO ADDRESS THE MOST PRESSING ISSUES OF THE DAY AND PROVIDE FOR DIVISION OF QUALITY FOR CITIZENS AND CONTINUED ADVANCEMENT FOR THE BOARD LONG TERM GOALS FOR THIS COMMUNITY. HIGHLIGHTS OF THE BUDGET AND A BIG DISCLAIMER IS BEFORE YOU ON THE SCREEN. AT THIS POINT IN THE PROCESS IT INCLUDES NO CHANGES IN THE MILITARY FOR THE 13th CONSECUTIVE YEAR WITH NO NEW TAX OR FEE INCREASES OF ANY KIND REFLECTED IN THE BUDGET. NO NEW GENERAL REVENUE SUPPORTED POSITIONS SO YOU SENT A VERY CLEAR FRAME WITHOUT LIEN OF AN APPROACH WE ARE TAKING AN IMPORTANTLY SUPPORT FOR THE SHERIFF'S BUDGET AND THAT PAY PLAN THAT WAS INITIATED YEARS AGO WITH THE LAST YEAR AND THAT CURRENT PAY PLAN IN THE FIRST YEAR OF THE SHERIFF'S MINIMUM $60,000 STARTING PAY FOR SHERIFF'S DEPUTIES AS PROPOSED WITHIN THIS BUDGET AND PRELIMINARY BILLY BALANCED REFLECTING THE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES OF THE BOARD AND THE CONTINUED FUNDING FOR HUMAN SERVICE AGENCIES INCLUDING THE ESTABLISHMENT OF LINE ITEM FUNDING FOR THE EMERGENCY HOME LIST SHELTERS AND ANOTHER PERFORMANCE DETAIL COMING AT YOUR JUNE WORKSHOP. FUNDING TO SUPPORT THE ANNUAL PERFORMANCE INCREASES 0.5% WITH AN AVERAGE OF THREE AND OTHER OF COURSE ESSENTIAL AND STRATEGIC CONDITIONS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AND THE EFFICIENCY OF THE DEPARTMENT WE DID PROVIDE AN ANALYSIS OF THE COST OF THE 5% ACROSS THE BOARD FOR THIS PAY INCREASE WHICH THE BOARD DID APPROVE OVER THE LAST TWO BUDGET CYCLES. AS SUCH OPTION FOUR IS INCLUDED SHOULD THE BOARD DEEM IT WARRANTED TO CONTINUE THAT FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR. THE OVERVIEW ITEM ALSO PROVIDES ANALYSIS OF THE DEBT SERVICE SCHEDULE AND OTHER ISSUES THAT WE ARE HAPPY TO GO INTO AS MUCH DETAIL AS THE BOARD DESIRES. THAT IS A VERY HIGH-LEVEL OVERVIEW AT THIS POINT IN THE PROCESS. THERE ARE A LOT OF IMPORTANT DETAILS THAT WE WILL BE ADDRESSING THROUGHOUT AND I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT WE ARE EARLY ON IN THE BUDGET PROCESS BECAUSE WE WILL BE SPENDING A LOT OF TIME TODAY FOCUSING ON THAT DETAIL THE BUDGET AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS WORKSHOP IS TO CONTINUE TO SEEK PRELIMINARY GUIDANCE THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS. THE JUNE WORKSHOP WILL BE PRESENTING A DETAILED BUDGET BALANCING STRATEGY SHOULD THAT BE NECESSARY. AND BY JUNE WE WILL HAVE THE ESTIMATE OF VALUE FROM PROPERTY APPRAISERS AND ALL THE CONSTITUTIONAL BUDGET OFFICES AND THEY WILL HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED BY THAT TIME. THEY WILL HAVE COMPLETED THE ANALYSIS AND OVERVIEW OF ALL DEPARTMENTAL BUDGETS AND CAPITAL PROJECT REQUESTS. ALL OF THAT INFORMATION WILL BE AVAILABLE IN JUNE AT THAT WORKSHOP. FINALLY I WANTED TO REMIND THE BOARD THAT TODAY'S WORKSHOP IS SCHEDULED FROM 9:00 UNTIL 3:00 BUT AS THE CHAIRMAN NOTED I'M SURE YOU WILL NOT NEED ANYWHERE CLOSE TO THAT TIME AS WE ONLY HAVE A FEW DISCUSSION ITEMS FOR THE BOARD TO CONSIDER. HOWEVER WE DO HAVE AS MUCH TIME AS THE BOARD DOES DESIRE. ANY ADDITIONAL POLICY AND GUIDANCE YOU PROVIDE FOR US TODAY WILL BE REFLECTED AT YOUR JUNE 18th WORKSHOP. AS A RABBIT MY COMMENTS HERE DUE IN NO SMALL PART TO A LONG HISTORY OF VERY THOROUGH PHYSICAL PLANNING WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO MEET CHALLENGES THAT COME OUR WAY WHATEVER THEY MAY BE WAS DRIVING TO SET THE STANDARD OF PUBLIC SERVICE AND PERENNIALLY BEING ONE OF THE MOST EFFICIENT AFFORDABLE AND RESPONSIBLE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS IN FLORIDA. THAT NEVER CHANGES. THE STRONG FISCAL FOUNDATION HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED OVER MANY PREVIOUS BUDGET CYCLES USING BUDGET DISCIPLINE AND SOUND PHYSICAL PLANNING AND THE EMPHASIS THAT WE PLACE AN ORGANIZATIONAL WIDE FOCUS OF INNOVATION, COST SAVINGS AND EFFICIENCY. OF COURSE THAT LEVEL OF EFFORT IS CONTINUOUS. WITH THAT I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK ALL OF OUR COUNTY STAFF WHO DO PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROCESS ON A YEAR-ROUND BASIS INCLUDING WHERE SHAUNA BRADLEY WHO YOU WILL HEAR FROM JUST A MOMENT THE DIRECTOR OF OMB AND HER TEAM FOR THE CONTINUOUSLY EXCELLENT WORK. FINALLY I LIKE TO THANK THE BOARD FOR ALL OF YOUR POLICY GUIDANCE AND DIRECTION IN YOUR CONSISTENT LEADERSHIP INCLUDING TODAY WITH YOUR BUDGET GUIDANCE AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT PRELIMINARY BUDGET. I WILL HAVE THE SELF KNOW IT WE WILL PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THESE DISCUSSION ITEMS THAT WE WILL HAVE THE BOARD SEEKING DIRECTION TO INCLUDE FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TODAY. >> EXCUSING MR. COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR? WE HAVE A QUESTION DIRECTED TO YOU. >> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR AND GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. ADMINISTRATOR THANK YOU. BECAUSE NO DOUBT WE HAVE ALL HAD PRELIMINARY BRIEFINGS MY INTEREST TODAY IS THE SCAFFOLDING TO CARRY US IS WELL-PLACED. TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU CAN FORESHADOW NEXT YEAR'S LEGISLATIVE MANDATES THAT MAY CONSTRAIN STREAMS OF REVENUE. AS MUCH AS YOU CAN ALL LOOK INTO THE FUTURE FOR US I THINK THAT WE DO NEED TO THINK ABOUT AS IF WE ARE IN 25 AND NOT 24. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS. FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO GO OVER THE CURRENT ECONOMIC OUTLOOK AS WE ARE DEVELOPING A BUDGET. ON A NATIONALLEVEL THIS IS THE FINAL YEAR OF THE ARBOR FUNDS. REVIEWS ARE $57 MILLION OVER THE PAST FEW FISCAL YEARS AS REVENUE REPLACEMENT AND TO SUPPORT THE CAPITAL PROGRAM WITHOUT THOSE FUNDS WE WOULD'VE BEEN FORCED TO CUT AND CAPITAL PROJECTS. THIS IS THE FINAL YEAR GOING FORWARD WE WILL BE FORCED TO CONTINUE CONSTRAINING EXPENDITURES TO NORMAL GROWTH IN GENERAL REVENUE. THIS YEAR WE UTILIZE $1.9 MILLION IN FUNDING. I'D LIKE TO REITERATE THAT IS GOING FORWARD. MOVING ON TO INFLATION WE ARE CURRENTLY DOWN FROM THE PEAK THAT WE EXPERIENCED IMMEDIATELY AFTER COVID-19. IF YOU RECALL AS WE WERE PREPARING WE ARE STILL ABOVE NORMAL LEVELS AT ABOUT 3 1/2%. THIS WAS ONE OF THE HIGHEST AT NEARLY 4%. CURRENTLY IN THE BUDGET WE ARE STILL FEELING THE IMPACTS OF INFLATION AND THE PRICE OF PRODUCTS AND SERVICES. TO ADDRESS INFLATION DURING THE PANDEMIC THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND RESERVES INCREASE INTEREST RATES AROUND 11 TIMES. BARRING CALLS GO UP AND BASICALLY SPENDING GOES DOWN. ULTIMATELY THAT RESULTS IN LESS TAX COLLECTION FOR US. IN THE MOST RECENT MEETINGS THE FED HAVE INDICATED THEY ARE CONSIDERING LOWERING RATES AT SOME POINT THIS FISCAL YEAR AND THAT APPROACHES SLOW DOWN IN RECENT MONTHS. AS INFLATION IS CONTINUING TO UPTAKE EVEN FROM FEBRUARY TO MARCH THERE WAS STILL A SLIGHT INCREASE SO WE ARE NOT SEEING INDICATIONS THAT THE INFLATION IS GOING DOWN AS FAST AS THE FEDERAL RESERVE WOULD WANT IT TO. ON A LOCAL LEVEL WE ARE STILL EXPERIENCING EXTREMELY COMPETITIVE JOB MARKET IS. LOCAL UNEMPLOYMENT IN LEON COUNTY AVERAGE IS AROUND 3%. THE COMMISSION IS TO REMAIN COMPETITIVE AND YOU HAVE IMPLEMENTED A COMPENSATION STUDY WHICH MADE OUR SALARIES MORE UP-TO-DATE WITH THE MARKET AND WE ARE HEADED THAT WAY. YOU APPROVED A 5% PAY INCREASE ACROSS THE BOARD OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS AND YOU ALSO BE CONSIDERED GOOD HITS BOOTS TO THE EMPLOYEE BENEFIT POLICY. LOCALLY AS VENTS TALKS ABOUT THIS LEVEL ARE PROPERTY VALUES WERE AVERAGING AROUND 6% AND THIS YEAR WE ARE PROJECTING 6 1/2%. THAT IS REALLY LOW IN COMPARISON TO OTHER GOVERNMENTS THAT ARE EXPERIENCING A DOUBLE-DIGIT INCREASE. SO WE ARE MODERATING TO WHAT WE CONSIDER NORMAL GROWTH FOR US. BUT THAT BROAD OVERVIEW OF THE ECONOMY WE ARE GOING TO LOOK AT LEGISLATIVE IMPACTS THAT WERE SPOKEN ABOUT AS YOU KNOW THIS YEAR WE DID DODGE SOME OF THE MORE DRASTIC IMPACTS AT $23 MILLION AND WE HIGHLY ANTICIPATE IN THE COMING YEARS THAT THESE ISSUES WILL BE BACK. THE BUDGET WILL BE CONSERVATIVE WITH THAT IN MIND BECAUSE WE DO KNOW THAT THESE ISSUES WILL BE BAD. THE FIRST ISSUE ISTHE FRS WHICH WAS A PROPOSAL TO RE-IMPLEMENT SOME OF THIS FOR THE RETIREES. A 9.6 MILLION DOLLAR IMPACT TO THE BUDGET. WE ARE EXPERIENCING NORMAL GROWTH AT ABOUT 2 1/2 MILLION DOLLARS BETWEEN US AND THE CONSTITUTIONAL'S. THE ADDITIONAL 25,000 HOMESTEAD EXTENSION WOULD'VE HAD $1 BILLION OFF OF THE PROPERTY TAX VALUES THAT WOULD HAVE RESULTED IN OVER $11 MILLION AND THAT IMPACTS WOULD'VE HIT US IN FY 26. THE WATER AND SEWER SURCHARGE PROPOSAL WOULD LIMIT THE UTILITY PROVIDERS FROM CHARGING MORE THAN 25% FOR CUSTOMERS. AS YOU RECALL THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT ALLOWS THEM TO IMPOSE 50% SURCHARGE IN EXCHANGE FOR THE USE OF CITY RECREATIONAL AMENITIES. WE DID RECEIVE NOTICE THAT WE WILL WANT TO RENEGOTIATE THIS AGREEMENT WHICH WOULD'VE IMPACTED US BY 2.6 MILLION. LUCKILY WE DODGE THESE ISSUES THIS YEAR. BUT WHAT DID PASS WAS A HOMESTEAD ADJUSTMENTS AND ANNUAL INFLATIONARY ADJUSTMENT THAT WILL BE ON THE NOVEMBER BALLOT. BASED OFF OF OUR CONVERSATIONS AND CONSIDERING THE CURRENT CPI IT COULD RESULT IN OVER $350,000 OF IMPACT ON THE 26 BUDGET. IF IT PASSES WE WILL HAVE TO ANTICIPATE THAT. AND THE DIFFERENCE WITH THIS ADJUSTMENT IN THE HOMESTEAD EXTENSION, OR WOULD'VE RESULTED IN A ONE TIME HIT AND IT WILL ADJUST THE VALUE ANNUALLY WHICH WILL RESULT IN US NOT BEING ABLE TO FULLY REALIZE THE YEAR OVER YEAR PROPERTY TAX GROWTH. AGAIN WE ARE CURRENTLY OPERATING WITHIN THE ENVIRONMENT THAT WE DO ANTICIPATE ADDITIONAL CALLS TO LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AND THAT IS THE DIRECTION TO THE DEPARTMENTS AS WE ARE DEVELOPING A BUDGET. WE ARE SIMPLY TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE POSITIONING YOU IN THE GREATEST POSTURE TO HANDLE THESE ISSUES GOING FORWARD. >> QUESTION? >> PLEASE. >> THE LEGISLATIVE TEAM IS HERE ARE YOU SAYING THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE IN A ROPE A DOPE POSTURE AND JUST GETTING ATTACKED BY THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE? OR WHAT IS THAT FIGHT BACK PLAN AGAINST THESE UNFUNDED MANDATES WITH THE FRS COLA THE HOMESTEAD AND MORE? WHAT ARE COUNTIES DOING TO GALVANIZE THE STRENGTH NOT TO TAKE THESE BLOWS? IN THESE KINDS OF POSSIBILITIES? IT'S GOING TO BE TOUGH. SMALLER COUNTIES WILL BE TOUGHER. WE DON'T NEED TO KEEP GETTING HIT WE NEED TO FIGHT BACK ON THIS APPROACH. >> OBVIOUSLY WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT THIS MORE AND YOUR UPCOMING LEGISLATIVE WORKSHOP THAT WE HAVE SCHEDULED FOR YOU. BUT I DO WANT TO GIVE A LOT OF CREDIT TO THIS TEAM THAT HAS BEEN VERY EFFECTIVE. YOU KNOW WE DON'T TALK ABOUT LEGISLATION ISSUES THAT SHOULD'VE BEEN FILED WERE TALKING ABOUT THINGS THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TODAY. THE LEGISLATIVE TEAM THAT WE HAVE HAS TAKEN EVERY APPROACH POSSIBLE FROM GALVANIZING ARE COUNTIES THROUGHOUT THIS LEGISLATIVE SESSION. SEVERAL OF THESE WERE ADVANCED HAVE BEEN REDOUBLED. WE'VE TALKED TO THOSE WHO HAVE FOLLOWED THESE BILLS AND ARE NOT AT ALL SHY SAYING THEY FULLY INTEND TO REFILE NEXT YEAR. EVERY EXPECTATION WILL BE HERE IN THE FUTURE AND THEY DON'T ONLY FALL INTO THE CATEGORY OF THE COST SHIFT SIDE. WE FIGHT THESE ON EVERY FRONT AND IN ESSENCE THAT IS WHAT WE WILL BE TALKING MORE ABOUT IN THIS LEGISLATIVE WORKSHOP. THERE ARE THOSE INCREASED PROPERTY VALUES. THAT 6 1/2 IS A PRELIMINARY ESTIMATE. THE ANTICIPATED PROPERTY TAX INCREASES ARE HERE AND THEY DON'T FULLY COVER THIS EXPENDITURE. THERE IS THE RESIDUE OF THE COVID-19 MONEY GOING AWAY IN THOSE FIRST TWO BULLETS ARE HERE AND ARE POTENTIALLY LOOKING PRETTY STEEP WITH A 6 1/2 NOT GETTING CAUGHT BLINDSIDED. ARE WE GOING DOWN? WE NEED TO KNOW? >> SO NOW WE ARE JUST GOING TO QUICKLY SHIFT TO SOME OF OUR DELIBERATE EFFORTS TO COUNTY EMPLOYEES TO CUT COSTS. PRIOR TO US COMING TO YOU WITH ANY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR TAXES OR FEE INCREASES THERE ARE COST SAVINGS AND AVOIDANCES WITHIN THE BUDGET. THESE ARE RELATED TO THOSE TARGETED PROGRAMS AND THIS YEAR WE HAVE IDENTIFIED NEARLY $12 MILLION IN SAVINGS. THAT IS ABOUT 76,000 OVER THE PAST 10 YEARS. YOU CAN SEE I WILL NOT BE GOING INTO MUCH DETAIL BUT THIS IS ISOLATED WITHIN THE ONGOING YEAR-ROUND EFFORTS OR THESE COST-SAVING MEASURES HAVE BEEN BROUGHT TO THE TABLE. WE ARE STILL VERY EARLY IN THIS BUDGET PROCESS. PROPERTY TAXES ARE ESTIMATED TO INCREASE BY ABOUT 6 1/2%. THE YEAR BEFORE THAT WE ARE AT 9.3 SO WE ARE STARTING TO SHIFT TO A NORMAL RATE. YOUR HALF CENT SALES TAX AND THE STATE SHARE REVENUES ARE ANTICIPATED TO INCREASE WHILE OTHERS ARE EXPECTED TO REALIZE THE DECREASE IS HERE. WE ARE ANTICIPATING $15 MILLION. SO I WILL SAY TO REITERATE IN THIS ECONOMIC AND LEGISLATIVE OUTLOOK THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY FACING THERE ARE INCREASES THAT YOU SEE HERE THAT ARE CONSTRAINED TO THE SMALLEST LEVELS NECESSARY. YOU CAN SEE THIS AROUND THE TABLE THEY HAVE HEARD THIS AND THIS CONSTRAINT IS INCREASED. THE MAJORITY TAKES IT FROM THE OPERATING SIDE WITH MANDATORY SERVICES. THE SHERIFF'S BUDGET OF COURSE IS HERE. AROUND 9 1/2%. THE BRIGADIER USE THOSE OFFICE ON SALARIES UP TO HIM PROPER MINIMUM. THEY CONTINUE TO PROVIDE SUPPORT FOR CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUES AS YOU KNOW FLUCTUATES YEAR AFTER YEAR AND OF COURSE THIS INCLUDED THE PRESIDENTIAL PREFERENCE PRIMARY SO WE SEE THIS GO DOWN. >> IT'S REALLY ON THE LEGISLATIVE REVENUE SIDE I'M SORRY TO GO BACK BUT YOUR ROLE ON THE DETAILS WAS HERE AND I WASN'T GOING TO MISS THOSE. AS I UNDERSTAND THIS WE ALSO HAVE A STATEWIDE BALLOT INITIATIVE THAT WOULD ADD INFLATION ADJUSTMENT AND A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION. SINCE THAT IS STATEWIDE IT WOULD ALLOW THAT THE PASS IS FACT PLANNING A CAMPAIGN OR POLICY DECISION ON THE OPPOSING LEVELS? >> THAT INFORMATION WILL BE INCLUDED FOR YOU WITHIN THE BUDGET WORKSHOP. I'M NOT SURE IF THE EXECUTIVE BOARD HAS MET OR MADE A DECISION ON THAT. >> THAT IS EXCELLENT. ON THOSE DETAILED EXPENSES AS YOU NOTED BY FAR THE MOST OF THE PROPERTY TAX INCREASES IS OFFSET BY AND ALWAYS SIMILAR AMOUNT WITHIN THE SHARE OF OPERATIONS. AS I'VE SAID BEFORE COMMISSIONER PROCTOR HAS SAID BETTER THAN ME EVERY TIME HOW ARE THESE LEVELS. ARE THESE SIMILAR WITH OTHER SHERIFF'S OFFICES OR ARE WE THE LEADER AND HOW DO WE COMPARE? IS IT TYPICAL OR ATYPICAL? >> FIRST OF ALL, YES. AND I TOTALLY APPRECIATE THE QUESTION FROM COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE AND IT IS AN IMPORTANT ONE GIVEN THE IMPACT OF THE SHERIFF'S BUDGET ON OUR OVERALL BUDGET. WE ARE VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE THE BUDGET RELATIONSHIP THAT WE DO CURRENTLY HAVE WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. AND I KNOW THE BOARD APPRECIATES THAT. THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE ENGAGES COMPLETELY WITHIN OUR BUDGET PROCESS I DID TALK TO COUNTY ADMINISTRATORS REGULARLY AND SPECIFICALLY WHEN IT COMES TO THE CONSTITUTIONAL BUDGET OFFICER'S REQUEST THIS IS NOT OUT OF LINE AT ALL PROPORTION TO HER BUDGET TO SEE THIS BREAKDOWN. THERE IS A HANDS-ON WORKING RELATIONSHIP. THERE IS THE MINIMUM STARTING SALARY AND AGAIN THAT IS SOMETHING WE DO THROUGHOUT THE YEAR IN TERMS OF ENGAGING WITH THAT ON THIS LEVEL. IS THERE ANYTHING YOU HAVE TO ADD ON THAT? >> NO. WE DO WORK CONSTANTLY WITH THEM TO KEEP THEIR BUDGET DOWN AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. SO WERE JUST CONTINUING THAT RELATIONSHIP. GENERALLY WHAT I FIND I SHARED THIS WITH THE COMMISSIONERS WE TRY TO CONSTRAIN THAT. WE ANTICIPATE A 6 1/2 VALUE AND THAT IS NOT THE CASE. WITH THIS YEAR THEY WERE A LITTLE HIGH ON THAT. A PARTICULARLY BIG YEAR BECAUSE OF THE OPERATING IMPACTS RELATED TO THE SALARY. >> THANK YOU. I DO NOT NEED ANY MORE DETAILS. WE ARE VERY LUCKY TO HAVE THE CHAIR AND THEIR OFFICE WILL DO EVERYTHING THEY CAN WITH OUR OFFICE TO KEEP THOSE COSTS AS LOW AS NEEDED. >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE. SO IS IT IMPORTANT TO BE COMPETITIVE WITH OTHER LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT IN DOING THIS BUDGET CAN YOU ADDRESS WHAT YOU DID TO LOOK AT FELLOW LAW ENFORCEMENT HERE IN LEON COUNTY? >> NOT ONLY LAW ENFORCEMENT BUT YOU WILL SEE SEVERAL REQUESTED ITEMS IN THE FORM OF BUDGET DISCUSSION ITEMS WITH ANALYSIS ON WHETHER WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE METRO REASON OR GOING BEYOND THAT RELATIVE TO SALARIES AND OTHER BENEFITS YOU WILL SEE IT REFLECTED IN THE ANALYSIS. THEY ENGAGE IN MARKET ANALYSIS YEAR-ROUND AND WE DO LEAD IN WITH AREAS WE HAVE PARTICULAR ISSUES BUT CERTAINLY THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE DOES FALL INTO THAT CATEGORY OF TRYING TO KEEP PACE LOCALLY WITH THE OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICES IN TOWN. I SEE COMMISSIONER MATTIX. DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING? OKAY. COMMISSIONER PROCTOR? >> A LITTLE MORE SPECIFIC TO THE QUESTION HE RAISED WHERE DO THOSE SHERIFF'S NUMBERS PLACE HIM IN CONTRACT TO TPT? THAT IS TYPICALLY THE GOLD STANDARD FOR WHICH THEY'VE BEEN TRYING TO MATCH FOUR YEARS. >> I THINK THEY'RE AVERAGING AROUND 65,000 MINIMUM. >> SO THE SHERIFF IS STILL BELOW THE SISTER AGENCY HERE. FOR MANY YEARS THERE HAS BEEN AN EFFORT TO CLOSE THE GAP AND TO RECEIVE COMPETENT APPLICANTS TO SERVE IN THAT ROLE IT IS VERY IMPORTANT AND THAT IS A REASONABLE NUMBER I BELIEVE THAT FIREFIGHTERS SHOULD LIKEWISE BE IN THAT SAME NUMBER. I DO NOT KNOW WHERE THE MS FALLS IN THIS PICTURE. BUT OVERALL THEY ARE READING ME RENEW WE NEEDED AND THE OTHER EXPENSE CATEGORY IS WHAT HIS OTHER MEAN? >> THOSE INCLUDE AND YOU CAN ALSO GO TO PAGE 11 OF THE ITEM FOR A COMPLETE BREAKDOWN THOSE ARE OTHER MANDATORY INCREASES SUCH AS MEDICAID RECLUSES FUEL INCREASES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. >> OKAY MY LAST QUESTION ON THE REVENUE SIDE THEY WERE SPOOKED OUT HERE WITH THE MONEY THAT WE TAX THEM. WE DO JUST RECORD WHAT WE ANTICIPATE FOR THE CITY TO COLLECT HERE. WE THE STAR FOOTNOTE THAT WE COLLECT THAT MONEY IN THE COUNTERFEIT MODE THIS IS WE NEVER TOUCH THAT MONEY. WERE GOING TO TRANSITION NOW WE WOULD LIKE TO TALK BUT WITH COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR WAS TALKING ABOUT HERE. WERE TALKING ABOUT THE EMERGENCY HOMELESS SHELTERS THE INCREASE RATE FOR DENTAL MENTAL HEALTH. AND IN PARTNERSHIPS WITH 211 TWO IN IMPROVE ACCESS TO HUMAN SERVICES. REAL COMMISSIONERS BASED ON YOUR DIRECTION AT YOUR RETREAT THIS WORKSHOP ITEM ALSO INCLUDES THE ANALYSIS OF YOUR CURRENT DEBT OBLIGATIONS. WE USUALLY ONLY ISSUE DEBT FOR LARGE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS. JUST TO REITERATE THE DEBT SERVICE LEVELS ARE CURRENTLY PRETTY LOW IN COMPARISON TO OTHER ORGANIZATIONS. WE DO NOT HAVE A LOT OF DEBT AND WE DO ANTICIPATE BEING DEBT FREE BY 2037. IN YOUR AGENDA ITEMS THERE ARE SOME SUMMARY TABLES THAT DO BREAKDOWN EACH DEBT SERVICE THAT WE HAVE, THE PURPOSE OF THE DEBT AND THE FINAL MATURITY DATE AS WELL AS REMAINING PAYMENTS. >> WHAT PAGE IS THAT? >> PAGE 20. AS REFLECTED ON YOUR SCREEN WE ARE ANTICIPATING A REDUCTION IN DEBT BEGINNING IN FY 26. IN PREVIOUS YEARS WE HAVE UTILIZE THESE THAT SAVINGS TO OFFSET TAX AND FEE INCREASES. MOST RECENTLY YOU WILL RECALL EMS AND FIRE UTILIZING ADDITIONAL GENERAL REVENUE TO DELAY THOSE INCREASES. THE CHART REFLECTS THE AMOUNT OF REVENUE THAT WE ARE ANTICIPATING PICKING UP EACH FISCAL YEAR WE WILL BRING BACK RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THOSE SAVINGS AS WE DISCUSSED AND TALKED ABOUT PREVIOUSLY THE FUNDING IS GOING AWAY AND WE WILL ANTICIPATE USING THE SAVINGS TO OFFSET SOME OF THOSE COSTS. WE WILL BRING THAT BACK TO YOU DURING THE ANNUAL BUDGET PROCESS. MANAGER? ON DEBT SERVICE I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE BECAUSE OF CONSERVATIVISM IN THE BUDGET THIS COUNTY HAS INCREDIBLE DEBTS TO FUND RATIO AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IN A GENERAL TERM WHERE WE ARE IN THAT CAPACITY SHOULD FUTURE PROJECTS BE NEEDED? >> OUR LAST COMMUNICATION I THINK WE WERE AT A+. THERE IS AMPLE CAPACITY IN LINE WITH YOUR OBSERVATION WITH VERY LOW DEBT AND AMPLE CAPACITY HERE THAT HAS BENEFITED FROM BOARD DIRECTION WITH A REFINANCING OF THE MARKET SCORE AND COULD HAVE PAID ALL OF OUR DEBT WITHIN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS AS THE BOARD MADE STRATEGIC DECISIONS TO REFINANCE DEBT AND DO THAT SORT OF THING. THAT IS NOT TO SAY THAT ALL DEBT IS BAD BUT CERTAINLY WE HAVE MAINTAINED A VERY LOW LEVEL OF DEBT AS IS PROPORTION TO THE BUDGET. AND TO UNDERSCORE WHAT WERE SHONDA HAS SAID THE SAVINGS THAT YOU SEE COMING ONLINE IN FISCAL YEARS WILL BE CRITICALLY IMPORTANT TO THE BOARD IS YOU DO ENTER INTO BUDGET DELIBERATIONS AND WILL ULTIMATELY BE ABLE TO DIRECT THE SAVINGS AT THAT TIME. >> IS THAT THE HIGHEST RATING THAT WE CAN HAVE? OR IS THE DEBT RATIO GOING DOWN PRETTY HIGH? >> OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS THIS IS MY 29th BUDGET AND WE HAVE CONSISTENTLY GOTTEN BETTER AND BETTER IN TERMS OF BOND RATINGS. >> THANK YOU. >> MADAM CHAIR? DO WE HAVE A POLICY ON WHEN THE DEBT GOES OFF OF THE BOOKS. WILL THE SAVINGS GO TO THE RAINY DAY FUND? OR DOES IT GO TO THE REDUCTION OF MILLAGE? WHAT POLICY DO WE HAVE IN PLACE WHEN THE DECK COMES OFF THE BOOKS? >> WE DO NOT HAVE A POLICY. IN FACT WE MAINTAIN THE ULTIMATE FLEXIBILITY ON HOW TO UTILIZE THOSE FUNDS. BUT WE DO BRING THEM BACK WHEN YOU SEE WE ARE PAYING OFF THE DEBT WE WOULD INTRODUCE THAT BACK INTO THE BUDGET PROCESS AND USE THE BUDGET BALANCING STRATEGIES. >> COMMISSIONERS I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WHAT YOU CONSIDER DEBT REDUCTION AS THE FIRST POSSIBILITY TO REDUCE THIS MILLAGE AND TO WHAT EXTENT CAN IT BE PLOWED INTO THE CONSTRUCTION OF A BUDGET THAT IS PARAMOUNT RIGHT NOW. SUFFERING MANY FISCAL CHALLENGES WE DO NOT HAVE A POLICY THAT IMMEDIATELY TELLS STAFF WHAT TO DO WHEN WE NO LONGER HAVE THESE ISSUES HERE. IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS THAT IS A GOOD-LOOKING AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR US TO FOCUS. BUT LET'S NOT FOCUS ON THE MILLAGE REDUCTION. >> MR. COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AS THAT IS PRESENTED TO US DO WE REDUCE THE DEBT DEPENDING ON THE COMPETITION WITH THE BOARD? I BELIEVE THAT IS A DECISION THAT COULD BE MADE AT A PARTICULAR TIME DEPENDING UPON THE AMOUNT AND COMMUNITY AT THE TIME? >> I STRONGLY ADVISE YOU KEEP ALL OF YOUR OPTIONS OPEN. >> COMMISSIONERS YOU RECALL YOU RECEIVED AN UPDATE ON THESE PROJECTS AND THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS. IN THE COUNTY WE HAVE BEEN EXTREMELY SUCCESSFUL AND EFFECTIVE AT LEVERAGING STATE AND FEDERAL DOLLARS FOR THESE PROGRAMS. EVEN WITH OVER $63 MILLION IN GRANT FUNDING THERE IS STILL A SIGNIFICANT SHORTAGE TO COMPLETE SOME OF THESE REMAINING PROJECTS DUE TO THE INCREASES IN CONSTRUCTION COSTS. AS SUCH THE OFFICE ALONG WITH PUBLIC WORKS HAVE BEEN AGGRESSIVELY SEEKING ADDITIONAL GRANT DOLLARS. YOU DID GIVE US AUTHORIZATION AT YOUR FEBRUARY MEETING TO APPLY FOR A $10 MILLION STATE GRANT. THAT REQUIRES A $10 MILLION LOCAL MATCH. COMMISSIONERS? >> YOU SAID THAT SO CASUALLY. >> IT'S JUST $10 MILLION. YOU'VE DEDICATED THE FUNDS FOR THE MASS KNOWLEDGE OF THESE PROJECTS. WE'VE USED ABOUT $8 MILLION TO DATE. AND WE DO ANTICIPATE CONTINUING THAT PRACTICE BASED ON BOARD DIRECTION. TODAY, COMMISSIONERS, UPON NOTIFICATION OF THE GRANT AWARD WE ARE ASKING THAT WE BE ABLE TO ENGAGE IN THE FINANCIAL SHORT-TERM ROLE WHERE WE WILL LEVERAGE THE DEBT SERVICE PAYMENTS THAT WILL NOT HAVE AN IMPACT IN GENERAL REVENUE BECAUSE WE HAVE A DEDICATED REVENUE SOURCE. YOU WILL SEE THIS OPTION REFLECTED IN YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS TO APPROVE. >> MADAM CHAIR MIA COMMENTS? >> PLEASE. >> OKAY CAN WE GO TO THE ONE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE SEWER? OKAY I WANT TO COMPLEMENT OUR STAFF FOR DOING A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF WORK IN THE PIPING IN THE WOODINVILLE AREA. WE APPRECIATE AND RECOGNIZE THE CALL HERE ON THIS PAST SATURDAY WHERE THEY CALLED TO SAY THAT THE CHURCH IN OLD WOODINVILLE HIGHWAY WHICH IS ON THE LIBRARY ROLE IS HERE AND HE SAID THEY HAD A SEWER AND YOU WOULD'VE THOUGHT IT WAS CHRISTMAS MORNING. AND IT GOES ALL THE WAY DOWN OAK RIDGE ROAD. THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT ELEVATION FOR THEM TO STEP INTO THE 21st CENTURY SO I WANT TO SHOUT OUT THE STAFF IN THIS LONG ADMINISTRATION FROM THE DORMANT FOCUS ON WOODINVILLE AS THESE STAFF HAVE CHAMPIONED SUPPORT TO BRING OPTIMAL INFRASTRUCTURE THAT SIGNALS PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE 21st CENTURY. AND BEING THE ULTIMATE ZONE BACK FOR CIVILIZATION. BUT TO HAVE SEWER IS FUNDAMENTAL AND BASIS OF BASIC NECESSITIES HERE AND I'M VERY GRATEFUL. ESPECIALLY FOR THE PUSH ON THE STAFF HERE I DO BELIEVE MAYBE NOT HERE IN MY FULL TENURE BECAUSE I AM DISAPPOINTED IN THIS BUT ONE DAY WE WILL HAVE PIPES IN THE GROUND THAT WHEN WE GET THE DIRT FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CALLED U.S. PARKS THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING WITH AND WE WILL HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE. WE ARE GOING TO GET THAT DIRT AND THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTY DESERVE IT. AND WE ARE FEDERAL TAXPAYERS AND THAT MONEY THAT WE'VE BROUGHT FORWARD OVER AND OVER AGAIN. FOR DIRT THAT THEY HAVE THAT WE NEED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND OTHER NEEDS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. SO THE FUTURE, MARK MY WORDS, IS GOING TO BE BRIGHTER FOR WHAT WE HAVE DONE. THESE MAY NOT BE VISIBLE PIPES BUT THEY ARE THE CATALYTIC FORCE THAT MAKES FOR ACTIVITY ON TOP OF THE GROUND TO BE MORE VALUABLE AND ENRICHING. SO, THANK YOU. I'M NOT SENTIMENTAL OVER THE SEWER BUT I AM PASSIONATE ABOUT PIPES THAT CAN PUT ACTIVITY ON TOP OF THE GROUND AND MAKE IT MORE ENRICHING. SO THANK YOU AND I AM 1% BEHIND YOU AND THE CONTINUING WATCHED WITH THE PIPES WITH A NEED TO BE. >>> SO LASTLY AS I WRAP UP COMMISSIONERS THE NEXT BUDGET STEPS ARE HERE. WE DO A FEW THINGS TO GET THROUGH BEFORE WE CAN OFFICIALLY ADOPT THE BUDGET IN YOUR SEPTEMBER PUBLIC HEARINGS. OF COURSE BY MAY 1st WE WILL HAVE THE CONSTITUTIONAL BUDGETS AND WE WILL BE RATIFYING THE ACTIONS THAT ARE TAKEN STAY AT THE MAY 14th MEETING. ON JUNE 1st WE WILL RECEIVE THIS LEVEL TO PRESENT YOUR TENTATIVE BALANCE BUDGETS AND ON JULY 1st WE WILL RECEIVE THE FINAL VALUES FROM THE PROPERTY APPRAISALS OFFICE. COMMISSIONERS YOUR BUDGET CALENDAR HAS A WORKSHOP IF NECESSARY ON JULY 9th AND THEN OF COURSE WE WILL HAVE OUR TWO REQUIRED PUBLIC HEARINGS IN THE SEPTEMBER MEETINGS. WITH THAT COMMISSIONERS THE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE ON YOUR SCREENS. WITH THAT COMMISSIONERS, I WOULD LIKE TO TURN IT BACK OVER. >> MADAM CHAIR WE WILL TURN IT BACK A REVIEW TO FACILITATE THE VOTE ON ITEM 1 AND JUST NOTE THAT LIKE THE COMMISSION MEETING I WILL BE PREPARED TO INTRODUCE THE BUDGET DISCUSSION ITEMS THAT FOLLOW. >> THANK YOU. MR. COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND MISS BRADLEY, THANK YOU ALL FOR REPRESENTING THE INFORMATION ON THE SUMMARY ITEMS BEFORE US. AND ALL OF YOUR HARD WORK. COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE THE OPTIONS AND I WOULD LIKE TO THROUGH TO THE MOTION FOR OPTIONS ONE, TWO, THREE AND FOUR. >> THINK MADAM CHAIR. I WOULD MOVE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS BEFORE I SAY ANYTHING HERE. SO I DO MOVE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION OPTIONS 12 AND THREE. >> COMMISSIONER? I WANT TO COMMEND ALL OF YOU OBVIOUSLY MY PERSPECTIVE IS LIMITED ON THE BUDGET CONSTRUCTION BUT I THINK YOU CLEARLY DO AN INCREDIBLE JOB AS A STAFF FROM THE TOP THROUGH THE DEPARTMENTS THESE ARE BUDGETS IN VERY DYNAMIC ENVIRONMENTS WITH INFLATION AND REVENUES AND ALL OF THIS CHANGING. AS ONLY MAN WHO LOOKS AT SOMETHING LIKE THIS I WOULD LIKE TO COMMEND YOU AND LET YOU KNOW THAT I DO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE DOING. I SEE THE INTENTIONALITY BEHIND THE DECISION-MAKING THAT IS DONE AND I FEEL LIKE FOR MY COLLEAGUES ON THE BOARD OBVIOUSLY WE ARE IN A DYNAMIC ENVIRONMENT ACROSS THE STREET. I FEEL LIKE YOU TO ANTICIPATE THESE THINGS WILL COME DOWN IN THE COMING YEARS THAT WILL REQUIRE US TO PIVOT OUR BUDGET. ONCE AGAIN THIS IS PROBABLY THE FOURTH BUDGET COUNSEL THAT I'VE GONE THROUGH IN LEON COUNTY AND IT IS A GREAT WORK PRODUCT THAT REFLECTS OUR VALUES AND WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO ACHIEVE HERE. AND IT IS RESPONSIBLE MORE THAN ANYTHING. SO THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER MADDOX? >> I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION, AS THE ADMINISTRATORS WE RECEIVED A REQUEST FOR FUNDING FROM THE HOUSING AUTHORITY TO MATCH THE CITY OF TALLAHASSEE'S PENDING APPROVAL THAT WOULD BE A MASTER PLANNING MONEY USED FOR SPRINGFIELD. AS YOU ALL KNOW THIS HAS BEEN A PARTY FOR ME FOR A LONG TIME. I WOULD PREFER SPRINGFIELD BEFORE ORANGE AVENUE BUT NOW THAT SPRINGFIELD IS A POSSIBILITY ON THE MASTER PLANNING I WOULD LIKE TO INCLUDE THAT WITHIN THE BUDGET. AM I WITHIN MY ORDER TO ASK FOR THIS TO BE PART OF THE ORDER OR MUST I ESCORT LATER? >> PERHAPS IF YOU DID WANT TO SAVE IT UNTIL AFTER THIS I THINK THE IMPACT WOULD BE IN THE CURRENT BUDGET FOR 2024. BUT CERTAINLY WE WOULD BE HERE TO RECEIVE WHATEVER DIRECTION THE BOARD WOULD HAVE AT THAT TIME? >> WHAT DO WE HAVE THE CONTINGENCY ON RIGHT NOW? >> IF IT IS THE DESIRE OF THE BOARD WE WOULD BRING AGENDA ITEM OUT TO YOU AND LAY THOSE OPTIONS DOWN. WE WOULD NOT RECOMMEND GOING INTO CONTINGENCY WITH THAT. WE MAY BE IN A POSITION TO UTILIZE OR AT LEAST PROVIDE THE OPTION TO THE BOARD TO UTILIZE E.R. A FUNDING. THERE WAS PREVIOUSLY DEDICATED TO PURSUE GRANT FUNDING BUT WE CAN PROVIDE ALL OF THAT AND MORE WITH THE ANALYSIS THAT COULD COME BACK TO YOU. >> COMMISSIONER MADDOX LET ME SAY THIS WE NEED TO ADDRESS THIS SEPARATELY WITH THE MOTION AND REQUEST FOR THE ITEM TO COME BACK FROM THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. I HAVE PLAN TO SEE IF WE CAN VOTE ON THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR DURING THE ANALYSIS AND BRING IT BACK IN THE NEXT MEETING. >> MADAM CHAIR I WILL LET YOU HANDLE THAT. THERE IS DEFINITELY HARD WORK ON THIS BUDGET SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR MOTION WORK. OF COURSE THE OTHER PART WE DID NOT DISCUSS YET WE WOULD BE WILLING TO LISTEN TO THE POOR DISCUSSION OF OPTION FOR WHICH IS A 5% ACROSS-THE-BOARD INCREASE. AND ONE THING ABOUT THAT IS THAT WE ALL KNOW THAT THESE INCREASE OUR BUDGET PERPETUALLY. AND THIS IS SOMETHING YOU MAY NOT WANT TO HAVE TO GO BACK ON. I APPRECIATE DIMINISHMENT FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD BUT I WOULD BE ABLE TO ENTERTAIN BOTH AND I THINK AS THEY BROUGHT THIS UP IN THE FRONT END OF THE DISCUSSION WE SHOULD BE UNDERSTANDING THAT IF WE DO HAVE THAT 23 MILLION IT COMES AS A RESULT OF NEXT YEAR'S LEGISLATIVE SEASON AND WE WANT TO CONSIDER THAT WITH ANY DECISIONS WE MAKE TODAY. >> I MAKE THE MOTION TO CONSIDER THE AMENDMENT OF ADDING OPTION FOUR. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER MADDOX. I APPRECIATE THE SENTIMENT. AS WE ALL KNOW WE'VE DONE 5% ACROSS-THE-BOARD OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS. I THINK AS WE HAVE DISCUSSED IN THE PAST THE 0 TO 5% AVERAGE IS THERE. WE WILL STICK WITH THE STAFF I THINK IT GIVES THE STAFF AND ADMINISTRATION THE FLEXIBILITY TO GIVE SOME PEOPLE 5% AND SOME LESS BASED ON PERFORMANCE. OR THE QUALITY THAT THEY PROVIDE. SO I THINK THAT IN MY OPINION, I WOULD RATHER THAT WE STICK WITH FLEXIBLE 0 TO 5%. I BELIEVE IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN DOING THE FULL 5% WITHOUT ANOTHER 1.3 MILLION TO THE BUDGET? I THINK IN THIS ENVIRONMENT OR WERE LOOKING AT POTENTIAL HITS FROM ACROSS THE STREET CONSIDERING THAT ARE PERCENTAGE INCREASE IS CONSUMED ALMOST ENTIRELY BY THE SHERIFF'S BUDGET. WE HEAR FROM THE STAFF ABOUT THE TREMENDOUS INCREASE IN CONCRETE AND ASPHALT. WE HEAR THAT AROUND THE COMMUNITY AS WELL. I'M NOT LOOKING FOR A 50 PAGE ANALYSIS BUT A DECENT AND WORKABLE NARRATIVE ON WHAT IS FACING THE CAPITAL PROJECTS. THAT WILL HELP US EXPLAIN TO THE PUBLIC AT LARGE IS WHY WE ARE SEEING THE INCREASES. I WOULD MANAGE PROGRAMMING TEAMS OF 50 TO 60 PEOPLE. THESE WERE BRIGHT, AMBITIOUS AND DEDICATED PEOPLE FOCUSED ON DOING THEIR JOB. BUT THE BEST TOOL THAT I HAD FOR MAKING SURE THAT THE BEST AND HARDEST WORKING AND SMARTEST EMPLOYEES STAGE WAS BECAUSE OF THE MERIT-BASED INCREASE. I HAVE ALWAYS HAD THE SENSE THAT WE HAVE GREAT PEOPLE HERE IN LEON COUNTY AND SOME PEOPLE THAT REALLY GO THE EXTRA MILE TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE SERVING THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THIS COUNTY WELL. I THINK ALL OF THAT REALLY MATTERS. MANY WOULD SAY THIS IS AN IMPORTANT TOOL FOR THEM. AND NUMBER TWO AS COMMISSIONER WALCH ALLUDED TO WE HAVE INCREDIBLE UNPREDICTABILITY COMING. WE ARE NOT TO LEAVE EMPLOYEES BEHIND ONLY HAVE MONEY ON THE TABLE. IN THE YEARS IN WHICH THERE IS SURPLUS WHICH WE ARE CURRENTLY IN THOSE GOOD YEARS, OUR STAFF GIVES US NUMBERS. THESE NUMBERS THEN BALANCE THE BUDGET THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN FACTORED. WE ARE NOT ASKING THEM TO GO BACK THEY HAVE ALREADY FACTORED 5% INTO THIS CURRENT BUDGET THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT. SO I ASK US TO RESPECT THESE WORKERS AS SUPPORT THE FIREMEN WHO ARE GETTING MORE MONEY. THE BILLS ARE COMING NOW AND THEY ARE COMING FIERCELY AND FAST. I OFFER A SUBSTITUTE MOTION FOR OPTIONS ONE, TWO, THREE AND FOUR. FOR BEING THE 5% WHICH IS ALREADY BUDGETED FOR. AND THAT WE CAPTURE >> MR. ADMINISTRATOR, THE BUDGET CONTEMPLATES AN AVERAGE OF 3%? WE ANTICIPATE BEING ABLE TO DEAL WITH THE EXTRA BUDGET PROCESSES. MR. ADMINISTRATOR HOW MANY POSITIONS HAVE WE BROUGHT BACK WORKFORCE WISE? ARE WE THE SAME AS WE WERE WHEN WE CUT THEM? MADAM CHAIR IF YOU DON'T MIND THE LAST QUESTION OF THE LOWEST PAID EMPLOYEES WERE TRYING TO WORK UP >> WE WERE TRYING TO GET THEM TO 15 CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE STATE WAS TRYING TO GET TO BY 2026. >> I WILL SUPPORT THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION. BUT AS WE MOVE FORWARD WE CANNOT CONTINUE TO GO ZERO TO FIVE THIS IS THE MORE PRACTICE WE NEED TO GET BACK TO YOU. >> LET ME JUST SAY THIS AS WELL, WE GAVE THE EMPLOYEES 5% LAST YEAR. INFLATION WAS HIGH. THIS YEAR INFLATION AT 3.5 IS STILL PRETTY HIGH. I DON'T THAT WE WOULD BE IN AS GOOD A POSITION NEXT YEAR TO GIVE RAISES TO OUR EMPLOYEES AS WE ARE THIS YEAR. WHICH IS ONE REASON WHY I DO SUPPORT THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION. THE OTHER THING THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER REASONS BUT, I DO RESPECT COMMISSIONER MINOR AND HIS INPUT. PARTICULARLY ABOUT AWARDING EMPLOYEES THAT DO WORK HARD. I DO KNOW THAT IN MANY INSTANCES, WE HAVE EMPLOYEES THAT DO WORK HARD THAT ARE LEFT OUT. IF RAISES ARE DISCRETIONARY OR SUBJECTIVE. WE CAN GET AROUND HER OWN BIASES AND INDIVIDUALS THAT WE FAVOR CELLS WITHIN THE WORKPLACE. WE ARE HUMAN. I THINK IF WE DO THIS ACROSS THE BOARD THIS YEAR WITH INFLATION WIRED IS LOOKING AT WHAT THIS BLEAK OUTLOOK MAYBE FOR NEXT YEAR AT THIS LEGISLATION THAT WE ANTICIPATE IS GOING TO BE BROUGHT UP AGAIN, IT WILL PROBABLY PASS AND I THINK WE ARE SHOWING EMPLOYEES THEIR VALUE AND THAT WE CERTAINLY VALUE THEM. AND I THINK IN THE OVERALL BUDGET WE ARE FOCUSING ON MANY AREAS OF NEED WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. BUT I DO NOT WANT US TO EXCLUDE OUR COUNTY EMPLOYEES. WE KNOW THE COMPANION CITY HAS PROVIDED A RAISE FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES WE KNOW THE STATE HAS AND WE WANT TO CERTAINLY KEEP GOOD EMPLOYEES WITHIN THIS COUNTY. WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO LEAVE THE COUNTY AND GO TO THE STATES OR THE OTHER CITIES. SO I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS THE RIGHT TIME TO DO THIS BECAUSE NEXT YEAR IF I AM HERE AND MAY NOT SUPPORT IT BASED ON THE NEGATIVE IMPACTS THE COUNTY MAY HAVE ON LEGISLATION THAT IS LIKELY TO PASS. COMMISSIONER WALCH? >> THINK YOU MADAM CHAIR. NANCE, CAN YOU CLARIFY A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR ME? THE 1.3 MILLION WILL BE COMING OUT OF THE FUND BALANCE FOR THIS YEAR? >> THAT IS CORRECT. >> AND A MOVING FORWARD IT WOULD JUST BE PART OF THE BUDGET? >> THAT IS CORRECT. >> MANAGER TO POINT WHATEVER HAPPENS NEXT YEAR THIS IS AN ANNUAL COMMITMENT WE ARE MAKING. WE ARE COMMITTING NOW TO THIS AMOUNT OF FUNDING FOREVER IN PERPETUITY. IF NEXT YEAR IS BAD WE'VE ARTIE COMMITTED TO THIS FUNDING IN PERPETUITY. WE ALREADY HAVE A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT THAT WE ACKNOWLEDGE WILL LIKELY CREATE A $350,000 YEAR HOLE IN OUR BUDGET. WE ARE IN A POSTURE IN OUR REAR GUARANTEE TO $350,000 REDUCTION. WE'VE TOYED WITH THE IDEA OF MILLAGE RATE ROLLBACKS. WHERE IN THIS DOCUMENT IT TELLS US THAT A 10th OF A MILLAGE RATE REDUCTION WOULD BE A $1.2 MILLION HOLE IN THE BUDGET. WE HAVE GONE FROM CONTEMPLATING THE MILLAGE RATE REDUCTION TO NOW CONTEMPLATING A $1.3 MILLION PERPETUAL ANNUAL INCREASE TO THE SALARY WHEN WE HAVE A CURRENTLY BUDGETED AVERAGE RAISE AT 3% THAT HIS PERFORMANCE AND MERIT-BASED. I DO NOT BELIEVE I CAN SUPPORT THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR. I DO NOT THINK IT IS FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE GIVEN THE CONTEXT OF THE SITUATION THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY IN. WE HAVE GIVEN 10% PERPETUAL, FOREVER, OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS WHEN INFLATION WAS ADMITTEDLY HIGH. NOW WE HAVE SEEN A 50% REDUCTION IN INFLATION WHICH I WOULD SUGGEST IS AVERAGE OR NORMAL, AND NOW WE HAVE A 3% AVERAGE RAISE CONTEMPLATED WITHIN THE BUDGET. SEAR ONLY A HALF A PERCENTAGE OFF OF THE INFLATION MARKERS. SOME PEOPLE WILL GIVE 5% AND SOME PEOPLE WILL GET 1%. SOME PEOPLE GET 0%. THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS. I CANNOT SUPPORT IT AS IT IS. I DO NOT FEEL IT IS RESPONSIBLE GIVEN THE CONTEXT I HAVE DESCRIBED. I THINK THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS OPTIONS ONE, TWO AND THREE. AND AS WE JUST MENTIONED, WE HAVE AN INCREDIBLY COMPETENT STAFF OF BUDGET BUILDERS HERE AND THEY DO A VERY THOUGHTFUL AND CONSIDERATE JOB OF TRYING TO PUT US IN A POSTURE TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN THE FUTURE. SO I DO URGE US TO STICK WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. PLEASE. >> COMMISSIONER WALCH BRIEFLY. BUT LET ME GO TO COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE FIRST. >> THINK YOU MADAM CHAIR. IT IS HARD FOR ME TO CONSIDER VOTING AGAINST MONEY FOR GREAT STAFF. I LOOK AT WHAT WE ARE SEEING ACROSS STATE LEGISLATURE AND THE CHALLENGING OUTLOOK THAT WE HAVE FROM OUR BUDGET FOLKS IN THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR HIMSELF IN A FUTURE WHERE WE WILL CONTINUE TO GET CHALLENGES FOR UNFUNDED MANDATES AND AT SOME POINT THEY MAY PASS. I THINK ABOUT THIS $1.3 MILLION IT DOES REPRESENT 2%. SO WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE AVERAGE OF 3% SPENDING AN EXTRA 1.3 MILLION OUT OF THE FUND BALANCE. I WOULD LOVE TO GIVE THAT LECTURE TO THE STAFF AND IF IT WAS JUST UP TO ME I WOULD PREFER THAT WE GIVE THE EXTRA 2% OF PEOPLE WHO MAKE THE LOWEST. INSTEAD OF SPREADING IT TO THE 20% EMPLOYEES WHO ARE PAID WHAT THEY DESERVE BUT IF WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TAKING CARE OF PEOPLE IN INFLATION, IT WOULD BE GREAT TO GIVE EXTRA TO FOLKS WHO MAKE THE LEAST YET WORK JUST AS HARD AS ANYONE ELSE. THAT BEING SAID I ALSO THINK ABOUT 1.3 MILLION THAT SHOULD BE CHOOSE NOT TO ADD TO THE NORMAL AVERAGE 3% RAISE IT STAYS IN THE BANK IN THE NEXT YEAR ANOTHER 1.3 MILLION GOES INTO THE BANK BECAUSE WE'VE NOT HAD IT RECURRING. AND THE NEXT YEAR GOES INTO THE BANK. AND I THINK THAT IN A FUTURE WHERE REVENUE GETS CUT SIGNIFICANTLY OR THERE IS AN ECONOMIC CHALLENGE AND OTHER GOVERNMENTS MAY BE FACED WITH CUTTING POSITIONS. ROUGH NUMBERS SITTING HERE 1.3 MILLION COULD FUND AN AVERAGE OF 20 EMPLOYEES. POSITIONS THAT WE KEEP EVERY YEAR WHEN OTHER GOVERNMENTS ARE NOT PLANNED FOR THIS MAY BE CUTTING POSITIONS. THOSE ARE THE THINGS I'M CONSIDERING FOR THIS VOTE. COMMISSIONER MINOR AND COMMISSIONER CABANA? >> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. OUR COUNTY EMPLOYEES OF THE BEST. I HAVE SAID THIS ON FACEBOOK AND WE WORK WITH THEM A LOT IN THE DISTRICT OFFICE. I KNOW YOU DO AS WELL. AFTER THE FLOODING WE HAD A LEON COUNTY PUBLIC WORKS CREW GO OUT TO THIS ROAD AND HAD THESE SERVICE RESTORED FOR THOSE TO TRAVEL ON THE ROAD. THAT DOES NOT HAPPEN BY ACCIDENT. OUR PEOPLE ARE INCREDIBLY HARD-WORKING. AND I THINK WE ALL APPRECIATE THIS AND KNOW EXACTLY HOW INCREDIBLY AWESOME THE COUNTY FOLKS CAN BE. AS I HAVE SAID BEFORE THERE'S A STORM COMING AND WE DO THINK THAT IT IS GOING TO B VERY DIFFICULT FOR US TO FIND WAYS TO BALANCE A BUDGET NEXT YEAR IF THESE LEGISLATIVE POLICIES GO THROUGH. AS COMMISSIONER WALCH SAID, THERE WAS AN ARGUMENT MADE THAT IF WE CAN AFFORD IT NOW LET'S DO IT BECAUSE WE CANNOT AFFORD IT NEXT YEAR. THIS IS A RECURRING PERMANENT EXPENSE. IF WERE DOING IT NOW ARE LOCKING OURSELVES AND TO DO IT NEXT YEAR. AND WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO AFFORD IT THEN. AND THAT IS A VERY IMPORTANT PART. LET'S SAY THIS TIME NEXT YEAR SITTING HERE WE HAVE THE LEGISLATIVE POLICIES THAT HAVE BEEN ADOPTED COSTING US AROUND 23 MILLION. WE WILL BE FACED WAS A VERY TOUGH DECISIONS. WHAT KIND OF SEVERE CUTS WE HAVE TO MAKE UP THAT LOSS OR GAP? OR WHAT MILLAGE INCREASE OREGANO BE FORCED TO PROVIDE UPON OUR CUSTOMERS OR CONSTITUENTS BECAUSE OF WHAT THE LEGISLATIVE POLICIES REQUIRE US TO DO? WHEN THAT DAY COMES ONE YEAR FROM NOW THE CONSTITUENTS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY ARE GOING TO BE ASKED WHAT IS THE COUNTY DONE TO LEAD UP TO THIS POINT TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE IS FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE AS THEY CAN BE BECAUSE BEFORE YOU INCREASE YOUR MILLAGE RATE I WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE DONE UP TO THIS POINT. BEFORE YOU CUT SEVERELY WITH CAPITAL PROJECTS WHAT HAVE YOU DONE UP TO THIS POINT? TO ACT RESPONSIBLY? COUNTY EMPLOYEES ARE THE BEST AND I SEE IT EVERY DAY. MY CHIEF OF STAFF AND I WORK A LOT AND CONSTANTLY THEY ARE MAKING THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT LOOK GREAT. BUT AT THE SAME TIME WE HAVE TO BALANCE THAT WITH WHAT WE KNOW IS THE POTENTIAL DIFFICULT BUDGET YEAR COMING UP WITH THESE LEGISLATIVE POLICIES. I KNOW THAT WE MAY HAVE A TREMENDOUSLY DIFFICULT BUDGET YEAR WITH SERIOUS CHOICES HERE. AND I THINK THAT STARTS RIGHT NOW. >> I LIKE TO THANK THE STAFF ARE PREPARING THIS BUDGET. I KNOW WE NAVIGATE IT WEIRD TIMES WITH SOME POLICY THAT CAN AFFECT US ON THE BUDGET. CAN I ADDRESS THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR? >> PLEASE. >> THIS IS JUST COMING THROUGH ARE YOU COMPETITIVE WITH OTHER COUNTIES? DO WE HAVE ANY TROUBLE HIRING? >> YES. >> BUT WE ARE VERY COMPETITIVE. IT IS A NATIONWIDE AND A STATEWIDE TREND THAT TENDS TO BE IN SPECIFIC POSITIONS. >> DO WE THINK THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT 2% RIGHT NOW? THERE IS CURRENTLY 0 TO 5% IS THAT CORRECT? >> BY ADDING 2% IT COULD HELP IN THIS HIRING ABILITY. >> WE ARE CONSTANTLY EVALUATING ALL OF THIS. >> PRIOR TO ME BEING ELECTED I THINK THERE WAS ANOTHER 5% INCREASE. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN NEXT YEAR. WE CAN SPECULATE BUT AS A BUSINESS OWNER I TYPICALLY DEFER TO MY DEPARTMENT HEAD AND DEPARTMENT MANAGERS ON WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE FOR THEIR DEPARTMENTS IN REGARDS TO THAT PAGE. IN THIS PARTICULAR INCIDENTS I THINK I WILL DEFER TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND HIS RECOMMENDATION AND NOT SUPPORT THE ADDITIONAL 2% THAT WE ARE DISCUSSING TODAY. NOT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT EMPLOYEES DESERVE IT. I THINK WE HAVE THE BEST STAFF HERE IN LEON COUNTY BUT I ALSO THINK THERE ARE TOO MANY UNKNOWNS WITH WHAT WILL HAPPEN OVER THE NEXT 18 MONTHS AND I THINK WE ALSO HAVE A COMMITMENT TO THE TAXPAYERS TO KEEP THEIR BASE CONSISTENT. IF THAT CHANGES NEXT YEAR I WILL HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER CONVERSATION. OR IF THERE IS A DIFFERENT PROPOSAL BROUGHT TO US BY STAFF THAT SHOWS WHAT WE ARE GOING TO CARVE OUT AT 1.3 MILLION THEN WE WILL HAVE ANOTHER CONVERSATION. WHERE I AM NOW I'M SUPPORTING OPTIONS ONE THROUGH THREE. >> I KNOW WE HAVE THAT PROPOSAL AND WE SUPPORT INCREASING THE ENTRY LEVEL AT 60,000 YOU KNOW WHAT PERCENTAGE THE INCREASE IS FROM WHERE THAT ENTRY-LEVEL SHARES POSITIONS NOW? >> THEY ARE AT A 50,000 MINIMUM RIGHT NOW. >> THEY'RE MOVING THAT BASE TO 60. >> THANK YOU. WHAT IS ON THE TABLE IS 5%. >> HOW MUCH WILL THE STATE AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS HERE? OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS COUNTY COMMISSIONERS HAVE OVERSEEN THESE INCREASES? FOR THOSE THAT ARE HERE WHAT ARE YOU SEEING HERE? ARE YOU GOING TO FORGOES THIS RAISE THIS YEAR? >> I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS. >> 0 TO 5 MEANS IS AN AVERAGE OF THREE CONTEMPLATED SO WITH THE BOARD WANTED TO SEE HAS AN AVERAGE OF THREE CURRENTLY CONTEMPLATED. SO ACROSS-THE-BOARD IT WILL BE HERE BASED ON THE OPTION THAT IS ON THE TABLE RIGHT NOW. THAT WOULD RANGE BASED ON THE PERFORMANCE. ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WAS A SIZABLE CHUNK THAT THE SHERIFF REQUIRED. I THINK WE ARE HYPOCRITICAL TO FORGO APPROVING THE BUDGET THAT IS ARTIE CONTEMPLATED WHAT WE CANNOT AFFORD. AND TO NOT CARRY THE MAXIMUM THE INSURANCES ARE INCREASING WITH ALL OF THESE THINGS. IT IS NOT FAIR WHEN THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATION WAS HERE I WOULD'VE RECOMMENDED THEY GET 5% ACROSS THE BOARD. AND I WOULD NOT BALANCE THE BUDGETS OFF THE BACKS OF THE EMPLOYEES THEY GIVE TOO MUCH FOR THAT. ALL THE OTHER MIRACULOUS THINGS THAT OCCUR HERE THEY DO. CONSIDER WHO WE ARE WHEN WE ARE NOT APPEAR. I AM A PATENTLY PAID TEACHER WITH AMU. I WORK FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. I DON'T KNOW BUT YOU WOULD ACCEPT A RAISE IF YOU GOT ONE THIS YEAR AND YOU'D GET MAD IF YOU DON'T GET ONE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE REST OF YOU DO. BUT IN MY JOB, MY REAL JOB, NOT ONE THAT I GET PAID FOR TO COME APPEAR ONCE A MONTH WHICH STAFF IS RECOMMENDED AS A ONE, TWO, THREE OR FOUR AND GET THIS PAYCHECK. DO YOU NEED A RAISE AS HARD AS YOU WORK? WE DON'T HAVE A CONSCIOUSNESS WITH EMPATHY AND RESPECT TO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE SACRIFICING. $1.3 MILLION WERE TALKING ABOUT $23 MILLION. THAT'S NOT GOING TO MAKE THIS YEAR ON THE DIFFERENCE I AGREED THAT EVERY LITTLE BIT HELPS BUT THAT'S NOT ENOUGH TO MAKE THIS COUNTY THINK IT'S NOT ENOUGH TO MOVE THE A+ RATING IT'S SMALL. SO THE BUOYANCY FACTOR IS THE FLOAT ABILITY. IT'S NOT TO BE IMPACTED AT ALL OVER THE 1.3 MILLION. WHAT WE CONVEY AS MORALE BOOSTER SHOWS EVERY LITTLE BIT INCREMENTALLY TO SUSTAIN AND PAY FOR CHILDREN TO MEET THESE MYRIAD OF CONCERNS AND MANDATES THAT WE PAY WITH A GREAT ENDORSEMENT OF OUR EMPLOYEES AND ALL THAT THEY FACE AS HUMAN BEINGS IN THE REAL WORLD. AND AS YOUR CONSIDERATION AS MERE MORTALS THEY WANT THEIRS TOO. >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. I THINK WE'VE ALL NOW HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE OUR OPINION ON THIS. I BELIEVE WE HAVE SPENT ENOUGH TIME ON ITEM ONCE I WOULD LIKE TO CALL FOR A VOTE ON THIS SUBSTITUTE MOTION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? WHICH IS OPTIONS ONE, TWO, THREE AND FOUR LET IT BE KNOWN? LET IT BE KNOWN IN NAME? THE KNEES HAVE IT. THE MOTION FAILS. NOW WE WILL GO TO THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION WHICH IS OPTIONS ONE, TWO AND THREE. THAT IS THE ORIGINAL MOTION OPTIONS 12 AND THREE. VERY BRIEFLY COMMISSIONER MADDOX? >> FOR MY OWN UNDERSTANDING YOU SAID IN 22 INFLATION WAS WHAT? 9.1? I THINK 23 IS DONE AROUND FIVE. THEY CURRENTLY WE ARE AT 3.5. THAT IS THE PROPERTY TAX VALUE INCREASES. >> CEMENTED HER BRIEFLY WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THE 5% BEFORE I GET THE POINT THAT WE WANT TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT. THIS IS WHAT THE EMPLOYEES HAVE DEALT WITH OVER THE PAST THREE YEARS. LOOKING AT 17% INCREASE IN INFLATION AND WE'VE GIVEN 15% SO WERE STILL A LITTLE BEHIND WHAT INFLATION IS. DOES THAT SOUND ABOUT RIGHT? WE'RE STILL NOT GOING TO BE COMPLETELY CAUGHT UP. WE ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT KIND OF MOREL WE HAVE AND WE VALUE THEM. THESE ARE THE FOLKS THAT MAKE US LOOK GOOD SO THAT WE HAVE GOOD THINGS TO SAY ABOUT THE COMMUNITY. I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY WERE NOT WILLING TO ENTERTAIN FIVE ACROSS-THE-BOARD. WE HAVE 3 1/2% THAT IS THE INFLATION THIS YEAR. AND RIGHT NOW WE HAVE 3% AT THE BUDGET. >> I WANT THE BOARD TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH JUST 3% AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY CONSIDERATION OF MAKING IT LOOK LIKE SOMETHING DIFFERENT. IF WE GO DOWN FROM FROM 9 TO 6 IT IS SIGNIFICANT BUT IF WE TOUCH SEVEN THAT MONEY THAT WE ARE QUIBBLING ABOUT AND NERVOUS OVER I WOULD LIKE TO BRING THIS CONVERSATION BACK IF THE PROPERTY APPRAISAL IS NUMBERED. >> IS IT POSSIBLE THE EXPOSURE WORKSHOP IS TRUE? >> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. AND THE ANSWER IS YES. ABSOLUTELY. IT IS APPLIED OF HER VERY BROAD BASE. WE COULD BE IN A POSITION OF REALIZING $1 MILLION. THOSE NUMBERS WILL CHANGE IN A BUNCH. IF YOU SO CHOSE AGAIN BUT I KNOW THAT THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. THERE ARE POLICY AND BUDGET DECISIONS BEEN DISCUSSED AS WELL. YOU COULD COME BACK WITH THE REFINED VALUE AND IT COULD BE SUCH WITH THIS MUCH MORE MONEY AVAILABLE. >> THIS IS THOSE THINGS THAT WE ARE PONDERING HERE AND WASTE OF TIME TO GO WITH BELT-TIGHTENING AND SO FORTH. IF THOSE NUMBERS COME BACK POSITIVE MASKING A RECONSIDERATION IN THE EVENTS THAT YOU KEEP OPTION FOR AS A REAL POSSIBILITY AND NOT JUST A PHANTOM OPTION. IF THAT APPRAISAL HIT 7% INCREASE? >> IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO BOARD WOULD HAVE A SEPARATE MOTION IF YOU WISH TO SEE THIS ONE BROUGHT BACK WITH THOSE REFINED NUMBERS. >> LET US VOTE ON THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR. DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON THAT MOTION? YOU CAN SEE COMMISSIONER PROCTOR'S RECOMMENDATION? OKAY THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS OPTIONS 12 AND THREE FOR ACCEPTANCE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? NO IT IS OPTIONS 12 AND THREE. WE WILL DEAL WITH OPTION NUMBER FOUR IN A SEPARATE MOTION. OKAY OUR MINDS ARE CLEAR. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSITION? NONE. OKAY LS COMMISSIONER PROCTOR? >> I MOTION OPTION FOR COME BACK TO US AT THE NEXT MEETING WITH THE ATTENDED FACTORS BASED ON THE APPRAISAL'S OFFICE ON ANY RETIREMENT CONSIDERATION OR REVENUE STREAMS WHICH MIGHT LEND THEMSELVES TO CONSIDERATION FOR $1.3 MILLION AND A 5% RAISE TO THE EMPLOYEES ACROSS THE BOARD? >> IS THERE SECOND? THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER FRED DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS? >> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT NOW IS THAT I WOULD BE WILLING WHEN THIS COMES BACK TO HAVE A DISCUSSION IN THE JUNE WORKSHOP. WE DO WANT TO HAVE 5% SO I WILL STAND FIRM ON WHAT I SAID EARLIER. IF WE CAN DEFINE IT FROM OTHER CATEGORIES WE STILL KEEP THAT BASELINE AND I WOULD BE OPEN TO HAVING THAT CONVERSATION AS WELL. >> AND I DO THINK THAT IS PART OF THE ANALYSIS THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR WILL BRING BACK TO THE BOARD AT THE NEXT BUDGET MEETING. BRIEFLY COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE? >> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER A THOUGHT OR IDEA HERE. WE WANT TO VALUE OUR EMPLOYEES AND IF WE ARE USING THE EXTRA MONEY IDEALLY I WOULD LIKE IT TO GO TO THOSE EMPLOYEES IN THE LOWER RANGE OF THE SALARY. PART OF THE CONCERT IS A OCCURRED COUPLE. I SEE THE FRIENDLY MOTION WE ASK STAFF TO BRING BACK THE IMPACT OF GIVING EVERY EMPLOYEE WHO MAKES LESS THAN $80,000 A $1000 ONE-TIME BONUS IN ADDITION TO THE NORMAL POLICY. IT IS NONRECURRING AND I BELIEVE IT WILL COME OUT AND WE WILL LET THEM DO THE ANALYSIS WITH A SIMILAR COST GOING UP TO 32%. THE REALITY IS THAT EVERYONE DOES THE STANDARD POLICY OF THE AVERAGE OF THREE TO FIVE WITH THE ADDITIONAL DIP INTO THE FUND WITH A ONE-TIME $1000 BONUS TO EVERYONE UNDER $80,000. AS FOR THE ANALYSIS OF WHAT THAT WILL COST WITH THE NEXT WORKSHOP. >> DO YOU ACCEPT THIS FRIENDLY MOTION? >> HE ASKED FOR HAD NOT? >> WOULD YOU ACCEPT THAT AS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO YOUR MOTION? >> NO. I DON'T WANT TO CREATE A MORALE DIFFERENTIAL AMONG STAFFERS THEY WOULD BE PAINFUL. OR JUST HER AND CREATE BIFURCATIONS IN A CASTE SYSTEM SITUATION BASED ON HOW MUCH YOU MAKE? OKAY PLEASE COMMISSIONER? >> I HAVE AN ORGANIZATION THAT I LEAD MYSELF. YOU CANNOT SPECIFY A CLASS OF EMPLOYEE OR GIVE THEM A BENEFIT THAT THE REST THE EMPLOYEES ARE NOT RECEIVING. MY HEARING THAT WRONG? I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT YOU CAN JUST GIVE THIS TO 80,000 BELOW. >> LET'S US THE COUNTY ATTORNEY IF SHE HAS ANY OPINION ON THIS? THERE MAY BE AN EQUAL PROTECTION ISSUE? >> I WOULD HAVE TO RESEARCH THIS THERE COULD BE CONCERNS PARTICULARLY IF THEIR EMPLOYEES WITHIN THAT SAME JOB CLASSIFICATION WHO WOULD BE ON DIFFERENT SIDES OF THIS LEVEL. >> I AM ALMOST CERTAIN THAT THAT IS THE CASE. SO FOR THAT REASON I WILL BE VOTING AGAINST THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION. >> VERY QUICKLY HERE. COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE I FEEL WHERE YOU ARE TRYING TO GO WITH THAT BUT AS A SCHOOLTEACHER, WHEN WE GET A BONUS WE RESENT THAT. BECAUSE IT'S A ONE-TIME THING. IT'S LIKE OKAY YOU HELP ME THIS ONE TIME BUT IT DOESN'T CONTRIBUTE ANYTHING DOWN THE ROAD. I GET WHERE YOU ARE TRYING TO GO AND MAYBE IF WE COULD DO THIS INSTEAD OF PUTTING ON COMMISSIONER PROCTOR'S MOTION WE COULD PERHAPS ASK AND I GET THAT THESE ARE LEGAL PROBLEMS. I GET YOUR SENTIMENT INFLATION IS HITTING THE PEOPLE THAT MAKE $15 AN HOUR MORE THAN ANYONE ELSE. IS THERE WAY WE CAN MAKE THEM GET $18 AN HOUR WITH THE EXTRA 1.3 MILLION THAT WERE TRYING TO FIND SOMEWHERE? THAT WOULD HAVE MORE OF A REAL AND MEANINGFUL IMPACT UPON IMPROVING THE LIVES OF EMPLOYEES THAN ACROSS-THE-BOARD 5% PAY RAISE THAT THOSE ARE MAKING OVER 80,000. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO GET AT. MAYBE WE COULD FIGURE THAT OUT AND MAYBE THERE'S NOT BUT YOU COULD LET US KNOW THIS IS WHAT MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE. >> THANK YOU. WE CERTAINLY HAVE THE SENTIMENT FOR THE LOWEST EMPLOYEES. BUT, I'M GOING TO GO ON AND CALL THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? IT IS A SUBSTITUTE MOTION OKAY. ALL THOSE I'M SORRY LET ME ASK TO VOTE AGAIN. LET ME KNOW BY SAYING I? ALL THOSE OPPOSED? IT FAILS. SO WE ARE BACK TO COMMISSIONER PROCTOR'S MOTION FOR STAFF TO BRING BACK THE AGENDA ITEM AT THE NEXT BUDGET MEETING. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSITION? THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS. THIS IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO. >> AS I MENTIONED EARLIER WE HAVE THE APPROPRIATE STAFF SITTING AROUND THE TABLE IN CASE THE BOARD HAS ANY QUESTIONS ON IT BUT I WANTED TO MENTION THESE ARE AGAIN ISSUES THAT YOU'VE ASKED TO BE BROUGHT TO DURING THIS WORKSHOP. WHILE THEY MAY NOT BE THE BIGGEST TO GET HER THE MOST EXCITING ITEMS THEY DO REMIND ME OF QUOTES THAT I'VE HAD OVER SEVERAL YEARS AND DURING THE BUDGET THAT NO ONE EVER HAS A RIBBON-CUTTING FOR THE PROPER MAINTENANCE OF THE ROAD. IN THESE ITEMS FIT INTO THAT CATEGORY. AND THAT THEY MAY NOT BE BIG-TICKET ITEMS OR GET MUCH ATTENTION BUT IT IS CERTAINLY AN INDICATION OF THE LEVEL OF DETAIL THAT WE PLACED IN THEM AND CERTAINLY THE LEVEL THAT THE BOARD ENGAGES IN THROUGHOUT THE BUDGET. AND AGAIN THE ISSUES THAT ARE PRESENTED HERE HAVE FALLEN INTO SEVERAL CATEGORIES. AS SORT OF THE INTRODUCTION WE DO HAVE AN ITEM ON LEVERAGING RESOURCES WITH THEIR PARTNERS SO THEY CAN PROVIDE HEALTHCARE SERVICES TO PEOPLE WHO ARE MOST IN NEED AND AVOID HEALTHCARE OF LAST RESORT WHICH IS ALSO EASILY THE MOST COSTLY TO THEM AND CERTAINLY THE COMMUNITY. WE HAVE A COUPLE ITEMS HERE ON EMPLOYEE BENEFITS WHICH WE WILL HIT VERY QUICKLY AND WE HAVE ONE ON VFD AND IMPROVING THE FIRE READINESS IN THE FAR REACHES OF THE COUNTY AND A LOT MORE. COMMISSIONERS I WILL BE STARTING OFF WITH ADAM NUMBER TWO WHICH IS A BUDGET DISCUSSION ITEM WHICH CONSIDERS INCREASING THE CARENET PROVIDER REIMBURSEMENT RATE FOR DENTAL AND MENTAL SERVICES PROVIDED BY HEALTHCARE PROVIDERS TO LOW INCOME RESIDENTS. WE ARE RECOMMENDING DOING THIS BUT WE HAVE FALLEN BELOW THE MEDICAID RATE AND REIMBURSEMENTS OVER THE LAST TWO LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS AND THIS WILL PUT US IN LINE WITH THAT AND IT DOES NOT HAVE ANY FISCAL IMPACT. WITH THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING OPTIONS ONE AND TWO. >> MOVING ITEMS ONE AND TWO. IS THERE A SECOND? IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? I KNOW LAST YEAR WE DID INCREASE THE PAYMENTS FOR PRIMARY CARE TO LOW INCOME INDIVIDUALS. SO THIS IS SPECIFICALLY WITH DENTAL AND MENTAL HEALTH. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSITION? OKAY WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A FIVE-MINUTE BREAK. WE WILL BE RIGHT BACK AT 11:00. >> WE WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE GREEN FLEET CONVERSION CHAMPIONS. ANY IDEA WHEN WE WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE TECHNOLOGY THAT ALLOWS US TO CONVERT OUR HEAVY-DUTY EQUIPMENT LIKE BACKHOES AND DUMP TRUCKS? BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE PRETTY COOL. >> THIS AGENDA ITEM AS THEY HAVE IN FOCUS ON LIGHT DUTY WE'RE CONSTANTLY WATCHING THESE MARKETS. WE WANT TO BE A LEADER WITH THE ABILITY TO MAINTAIN AND KEEP THESE ON THE ROADS. EVEN IN LIGHT DUTY FLEET THE CHEVY BOLT IS ONE WE HAVE HEAVILY INVESTED IN IT IS NO LONGER GOING TO BE PRODUCED. THEY'RE RECALCULATING AND THEY EXPECT IT TO HAVE MEDIUM DUTY AS WE FEEL CONFIDENT WITHIN THESE DUTIES. >> THANK YOU I APPRECIATE ALL YOU DO WITH THIS DYNAMIC ENVIRONMENT AND THE FACT THAT LEON COUNTY STAYS IF NOT ON THE LEADING EDGE THE CUTTING EDGE. >> COMMISSIONER MINOR? >> SAME THING I WANTED TO THANK MAGGIE AND THE TEAM FOR EVERYTHING THEY ARE DOING TO ACCELERATE THIS. WHEN I HAVE MY BRIEFING WITH THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR WE TALKED ABOUT THE AVAILABILITY OF VEHICLE INVENTORY AND COST REDUCTIONS. TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE PUSHING AS FAST AS WE CAN. FOR ANYONE WHO MAY BE WATCHING HIS PROCEEDINGS, JUST KNOW THAT OUR STAFF IS DOING THAT RIGHT NOW. WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR EFFORTS. THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER AND STAFF. I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU RECOGNIZE THE EXPENDITURES THAT OF ARTIE BEEN MADE AND LOOKING AT THE USEFUL LIFE OF THOSE VEHICLES. I THINK IT IS REMARKABLE THAT WE ARE USING WHAT WE SPENT FUNDS ON HERE AND AS TIME IS MOVING ON WHEN IT NEEDS REPLACEMENT WE ARE GOING TO EV SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> WHAT IS THE AVERAGE MILES THAT WE ARE GETTING OFF OF OUR FLEET? AND DOES IT VERY WITH TRACTORS TRUCKS AND CARS? >> AS OUTLINED IN THE GREEN FLEET POLICY WE HAVE RELEASED REPLACEMENT ELIGIBILITY STRUCTURE. MILEAGE IS ONE OF THOSE FACTORS BUT IT'S NOT FORMULAIC. WHEN THE REPAIR COST HAS EQUATED TO TWO THIRDS THAT IS THE MOST SIGNIFICANT TRIGGER. WE HAVE SOME VEHICLES THAT ARE FROM 2005 AND 2006 THAT WE MAY BE REPLACING A HIGHER MILEAGE VEHICLE THAT THE 2010 OR 11 AS WELL. SO IT IS NOT A STRAIGHTFORWARD FORMULA BUT WE DO TAKE EVERYTHING INTO CONSIDERATION. >> DO WE TRADE THEM OR THEY GIVEN TO GOODWILL OR SOMETHING? >> I REPRESENT THE OFFICE OF RESOURCES HERE SOME SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF FLEET MANAGEMENT RIGHT NOW WE PUT ALL OF OUR HEAVY EQUIPMENT ARE LIGHT-DUTY EQUIPMENT AND MORE OUT TO AUCTIONS THAT'S DONE IN A VERY PUBLIC TRANSPARENT PROCESS. IN ADDITION TO THE VEHICLES AND EQUIPMENT THAT ARE LEAST THAT WE HAVE A TRADE-IN PROCESS. >> I SAW SOME INFORMATION RECENTLY THAT I CANNOT QUITE REMEMBER BUT DO WE POOL PURCHASE? LIKE WITH THE SHERIFF AND THE SCHOOL BOARD? >> WE ARE AS WITH MANY OF OUR SERVICES AND ITEMS WE PURCHASE WITHIN THE COUNTY WE HAVE TERM CONTRACTS THROUGH THE STATE AND MANY OF OUR VEHICLES ARE PURCHASED FROM THAT STATEWIDE CONTRACT. >> VERY GOOD. WE ARE TRIMMING AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE MUCH. >> ALL THOSE TO ACCEPT OPTION ONE WHAT IT BE KNOWN BY SAYING I? HEARING NO OPPOSITION THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR. >> THIS IS AN ITEM COMMISSIONERS THE NIKKI PATENT HAS BEEN ANXIOUSLY WAITING. AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE ON THIS ITEM. HERS HAS NOT BEEN APPROVED NOT KIDDING. THIS IS AN ITEM THAT YOU'VE ASKED TO BE INCLUDED TODAY FROM YOUR JANUARY 23rd MEETING. YOU DIRECT TO THE COMPARISON THE RECENT CHANGES WITH THE STATE AND OTHER COMPARABLE GOVERNMENTS. AS I MENTIONED WE WERE EARLY ADOPTERS CAME OUT WITH THAT PATERNAL LEAVE POLICY AND IT DID APPLY TO NEW PARENTS OF MEN WOMEN AND THOSE ADOPTING AND IT WAS A GRADUAL LEVEL THAT WAS PAID FOR THREE AND 475 FIVE AND SIX WERE 50% OF PAY ALL BASED ON THE CURRENT ANALYSIS BEFORE YOU AND THE CURRENT BEST INDUSTRY STANDARDS WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT WE DO PROVIDE EMPLOYEES WITH SIX WEEKS FULL PAY FOR PATERNITY LEAVE. WITH THAT WE ARE HAPPY FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE? >> COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE >> I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE OPTION ONE. >> ARE THERE ANY DISCUSSION LEVELS? >> YES. THANK YOU I WOULD LIKE TO THANK MOST ESPECIALLY THE COUNCIL AND THE STATUS OF WOMEN'S AND GIRLS COMMISSIONER KATIE WILLIAMS AND EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR STEPHANIE SHOEMAKER FOR BRINGING THIS TO MY ATTENTION. THIS IS AMAZING BECAUSE NOW PARENTS WILL RECEIVE THEIR FULL SALARY WHICH IS DIFFERENT AND AS WE APPECIATE COUNTY STAFF WORKING SO QUICKLY TO GET THIS IN AND ON THE BUDGET. I KNOW WE ALWAYS WANT TO BE THE LEADER OF THE PACK ON THIS AND AS BEST PRACTICES ARE CHANGING I KNOW WE WILL NOW STAY ON TOP OF IT. THANK YOU. THING >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE. >> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND I HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS LAST FALL. I'M VERY EXCITED AND HAPPY TO HAVE THIS IN THE BUDGET WORKSHOP. SOMEONE WHO HAS FOUR SISTERS AND TWO THAT ARE TEACHERS I FIND THIS IS AMAZING TO COME BEFORE US. I LIKE TO POTENTIALLY OFFER SLIGHT CHANGE. IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA IT IS ILLEGAL TO REMOVE A PUPPY OR KITTEN FROM ITS MOTHER FOR EIGHT WEEKS OF AGE. DO I THINK THIS IS A BIG WIN? ABSOLUTELY. BUT I WOULD LOVE FOR IT TO GO FROM SIX WEEKS TO EIGHT WEEKS HERE IN LEON COUNTY. I BELIEVE IT IS SOMETHING VERY DOABLE IT IS A SMALL CHANGE BUT IT WILL GO A TREMENDOUS WAY NOT ONLY FOR WOMEN BUT FOR FATHERS AND MOTHERS AS WELL. THANK YOU. >> I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO CHANGE FROM EIGHT FROM SIX WEEK TO EIGHT WEEKS. >> I WILL SECOND THAT. >> I WOULD NOT ANTICIPATE ANY BUDGETARY IMPACT WITH THAT MOTION. >> THEN I WILL DEFINITELY SUPPORT THAT AMENDMENT. >> I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. MADAM CHAIR THIS IS UNRELATED BUT THE LEVEL OF ADVOCACY ON THIS TABLE HAS GONE TO ANOTHER LEVEL. I DON'T THINK MY YEARS OF BEING HERE I'VE EVER HEARD US REFERENCE ANIMAL CARE. I WAS KIND OF JEALOUS BECAUSE THEY NEVER THOUGHT OF THAT. SO I WILL SUPPORT THE MOTION ON THE CHAIR. >> COMMISSIONER WALT? >> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT I AM DISAPPOINTED THAT THE STAFF WASN'T LEAD ON THIS BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY WAS THE MOST STRESSFUL TIMES IN MY LIFE IS MY FIRST CHILD WAS BORN AND WE DIDN'T KNOW HOW WE WERE TO MANAGE IT. FROM A WORK STANDPOINT. BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING LIKE THIS. SO I THINK TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATORS CREDIT WE TALKED ABOUT IT EARLIER HOW WE ARE RYING TO BE ON THE CUTT EDGE AND DOING THINGS TO RECRUIT AND RETAIN EMPLOYEES. BUT THINGS LIKE THIS IS A BIG DEAL ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE ESSENTIALLY TRYING TO HAVE A CHILD. IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN THIS APPLIES TO MALE AND FEMALE EMPLOYEES? AND THERE ARE 12 JURISDICTIONS WITHIN THE STATE TO DO THIS. AND ONLY THREE OF THEM DO IT LIKE THIS. WITH THAT FULL SIX WEEKS? >> THERE WAS MORE OF A TREND ONGOING WITH A FULL SIX WEEKS. >> AND I WERE GOING TO EIGHT WEEKS. SO I SUGGEST WE WOULD BE THE ONLY ONE DOING THAT? >> ST. PETERSBURG DOES IT AS WELL. >> AND THAT IS A FULL ON CITY AND WE ARE COUNTY. THERE ARE A LOT OF CITIES AND ONLY SOMETHING COUNTIES. SO, I KNOW COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE THIS IS SOMETHING NEAR AND DEAR TO YOUR HEART. AND I JUST WANT TO COMMEND STAFF ARE FINDING A WAY TO MAKE THIS WORK. THIS IS SUCH A BIG DEAL. FOR REAL PEOPLE THIS WILL IMPACT QUALITY OF LIFE AND TO THE COMMISSIONERS. CATS AND DOGS AND MOMS AND DADS WE ALL ARE BONDING REALLY TIGHT IN THAT FIRST 6 TO 8 WEEKS. SCIENTIFICALLY THAT FIRST MONTH OR TWO IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT IN DEVELOPMENT OF A CHILD. BONDING WITH THEIR PARENTS IT CAN HAVE A RIPPLE EFFECT WERE TALKING ABOUT SUPER EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION. MY OLDEST CHILD STAYED HOME WITH MY WIFE FOR 12 WEEKS WITH NO PAY AND IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT. WHEN SHE WAS IN KINDERGARTEN AND SHE WAS READING 185 WORDS PER MINUTE. AND IT WAS LIKE NINE MONTHS AT HOME WITH MY WIFE. AND THIS IS WHAT SHE WAS SUPPOSED TO GET WITH NO PAY HERE IT WAS VERY TOUGH FINANCIALLY. AND IT REALLY PAID OFF. SOME SO GLAD TO SUPPORT THIS MOTION. THIS IS THE KIND OF STUFF THAT CELEBRATES THE COMMUNITY. >> COMMISSIONER PROCTOR? >> I HONESTLY DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF THOUGHT TO THIS. I THINK IT MAY HAVE TO DO WITH ME BEING A MEMBER OF THE AARP. TO MY YOUNGER COLLEAGUE HERE HE GOT INTO THE NITTY-GRITTY OF ALL OF THIS. I HOPE TO NEVER HAVE TO HAVE THIS APPLY TO ME. BUT I DO SUPPORT THIS MOTION AND TO ALL THAT IT MAY AFFECT. CONGRATULATIONS. >> COMMISSIONER MINOR? >> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. I'M VERY HAPPY TO SUPPORT THIS POLICY. EVERYTHING THAT COMMISSIONER WALSH IS SAID RESONATED WITH ME AND IS SO IMPORTANT. AS A FATHER OF YOUNG GIRLS HAVING THAT EXTRA TIME TO BOND WITH THEM WAS VERY IMPORTANT. I THINK WE SHOULD JUST VOTE ON THIS NOW. LET'S PUT THIS IN AND GET IT THERE SO IF ONE CAN BENEFIT. THANK YOU ALL. I AM HAPPY TO SUPPORT THIS MOTION. >> IT DOES NOT TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY. UPON RATIFICATION OF WILL. AS A DON'T CALL THE MOTION BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO BE EXCLUDED AS THE ONLY WOMAN HERE. BUT AS A WOMAN WHO IS WELL PAST CHILDBEARING YEARS, WHICH I AM, I AM CERTAINLY ELATED ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR BUDGET ITEM. I AM ALSO EXCITED FOR YOUNGER MOTHERS AND MOTHERS TO BE THAT WORK FOR THE COUNTY. I THINK IT CERTAINLY DEMONSTRATES CARE AND CONCERN HEALTH SAFETY AND WELFARE CONCERN FOR OUR YOUNG MOTHERS. AND APPARENTLY ADOPTIVE PARENTS AS WELL. AND FATHERS. ABSOLUTELY. BUT IT PUTS US IN A COMPETITIVE MODE AS WELL. BECAUSE WHEN I WORKED FOR THE STATE WE DIDN'T HAVE THIS. YOU COULD TAKE LEAVE BUT YOU WOULD USE YOUR ANNUAL LEAVE OR YOUR SICK LEAVE. SO THAT MAKES US COMPETITIVE AND I FEEL GOOD ABOUT THE FACT THAT OUR EMPLOYEES FOR THE COUNTY SHOULD FEEL THE CARE AND CONCERN THAT WE HAVE FOR THEM . AND WE DO WANT TO KEEP THEM AND DON'T WANT THEM TO LEAVE AND GO TO THE STATE OF FLORIDA WHO DO HAVE THESE POLICIES AND NOT THIS COUNTY. THANK YOU. FOR ALL OF YOU THAT HAVE WEIGHED IN ON THIS. LET IT BE KNOWN IF YOU ARE IN FAVOR? THE MISSION MOTION WAS UNANIMOUS. THEY WILL INTRODUCE THE BUZZ IT BUDGET DECISION ITEM NUMBER FIVE? >> I SHOULD NOTE THE COUNTY ATTORNEY WANTED IT TO APPLY WHEN YOUR KIDS BECOME TEENAGERS TOO AND WE CANNOT ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN. ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS HEALTH INSURANCE PREMIUMS CHANGING THIS CURRENT FORMULA úBASED ON THE ANALYSIS THEY RECOMMEND THAT WE MAINTAIN A CURRENT RATE WITH THE HEALTH CARE PLAN THE HR ANALYSIS CONDUCTED. YOU CAN SEE THE AGENDA MATERIALS SHARING THE COST OF PREMIUMS WITH THEIR EMPLOYEES BASED ON THEIR NUMBER OF PARTICIPANTS. IT IS NOT ONLY COMPETITIVE HERE MAINTAINING THE CURRENT CONTRIBUTION RATES WHICH WE ARE VERY GOOD THIS YEAR. MOVING TO THIS SPLIT WOULD RESULT IN 1.7 MILLION IN AN INCREASE WHICH IS $761,000 MORE THAN THE PROGRAM FOR THE CURRENT BUDGET. BASED ON THE ANALYSIS IT WOULD REMAIN VERY COMPETITIVE WITH THE EMPLOYEE COST AND HEALTHCARE INSURANCE AS WELL AS THE IMPACT THAT WE RECOMMEND OPTION ONE AND THIS IS AN ITEM THAT CANDACE WILSON JUST DREAMS ABOUT IN HER SLEEP. WE ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. >> I BROUGHT THIS ITEM AND I WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR VIEWING IT. I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER WALSH. GO AHEAD. >> MADAM CHAIR I RECALL WHEN WE WENT TO THIS 13% IT WAS PAINFUL AND WE DID IT. BUT THE ADMINISTRATOR HAS ASSURED ME AND REASSURED ME THAT THIS IS A COMPETITIVE RATE. AND RELATIVE TO THE GOVERNMENT. SO THESE THINGS HAVE BEEN CONTEMPLATED AND I WANT TO THANK CANDACE FOR THESE TABLES THAT HELPED TO BRING CLOSURE WITH RESPECT TO THE DESIRE TO BRING EMPLOYEE CONTRIBUTIONS DOWN. IF WE GET AN 8% NOD WE COULD PULL THIS BACK UP AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. THOSE THINGS BEING SAID THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF ACCEPTING THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR LET IT BE KNOWN BY SAYING I. ANY OPPOSITION? IT IS UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU MR. COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. >> THE FINAL BUDGET ITEM BEFORE YOU IS SEEKING YOUR APPROVAL TO PROVIDE ENHANCEMENTS IN ADDITION TO PROVIDING APPARATUS MAINTENANCE WITH THE FY 25 BUDGET TO CONSTRUCT GROUND LETTER WATER ON SMITH CREEK ROAD THE DISTANCE YOU MAY RECALL US EVALUATING THIS OVER THE YEARS IN TERMS OF THE EFFECTIVENESS OF GROUNDWATER TANKS IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE AND ANALYSIS WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT WE DO IT WITHIN THE CIRCUMSTANCE AND IT WILL PROVIDE A WATER SUPPLY FOR A LARGE INCIDENTS WITH VECTORS TO ALLOW THE VFD TO REFILL AT THE STATION AND IN ADDITION DUE TO RISING COSTS WITH ENGINE AND TANK REPAIR ITEM DOES ALSO INCLUDE INCREASED FUNDING TO FULLY COVER THE COST OF APPARATUS MAINTENANCE AND THERE IS ADEQUATE FUNDING AND WITH THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING OPTIONS ONE AND TWO. >> MR. COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR THANK YOU FOR THAT ANALYSIS. THIS IS WITHIN YOUR DISTRICT AND I WILL BE GLAD TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. >> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR I MOVED TO EXCEPT OPTIONS ONE AND TWO. >> IS THERE A SECOND? >> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. WHEN I AM PASSING OUT NOW IS A LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM THE VOLUNTEER FIRE AND RESCUE DEPARTMENT HOPEFULLY WILL NOT NEED ONE. I WILL SAY THAT THIS IS A NEED FOR THE VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT AS THERE IS ROUGHLY A 10 MILE GAP BETWEEN WHERE THIS WATER TANK WILL GO AND THE NEAREST BUS STATION. SO THAT MEANS IN THE INSTANCE OF A FIRE OR EMERGENCY ANYWHERE SOUTH OR SOUTHWEST OF THE VIRAL VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT THEY HAVE THOSE THAT HAVE TO TRAVEL 10 MILES TO THE NEAREST PHIL STATION AND THEN BACK TO WHERE THE FIRE IS SO IT CUTS OUT ROUGHLY 20 MINUTES OR MORE OF RESPONSE TIME FIRST FIRST RESPONDERS. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE STAFF IN THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR FOR IDENTIFYING THIS NEED AND BRINGING IT BEFORE US TO VOTE ON. I'M ASKING FOR EVERYONE'S SUPPORT AND THANK YOU. >> MADAM ATTORNEY WITH RESPECT TO OUR VOLUNTEER SERVICES AND THE FACT THAT WE ARE ENDORSED WITHIN THIS EXPENDITURE OF MONEY MAKES IT A MISNOMER WITH FIRE AND RESCUE. WERE CITIZENS IN THOSE UNINCORPORATED AREAS WHAT ARE THEY PAY AND DO THEY ACTUALLY MAINTAIN A ANOTHER PERCENTAGE WITH $223 PER HOUSEHOLD OR RESIDENT AND WE KEEP A PERCENTAGE OF THAT WITH VOLUNTEER FIRE SERVICES. IS THERE A BLEED OFF WITH SOME OF THAT MONEY AND NOT ALL OF IT GOING 100% TO THE CITY? >> AS MENTIONED IN THE LAST MEETING WE HAVE WITHIN THE LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY AND THE BOARD HAS BASED ON THE RATES CONDUCTED BY A THIRD-PARTY HIRED BY THE CITY AND THE COUNTY DID DEVELOP FEES THAT ARE CONTRACTUALLY OBLIGATED TO IMPOSE ON RESIDENTS IN UNINCORPORATED AREAS. YOU WOULD HAVE TO UNWIND YOUR AGREEMENT AND CHANGE YOUR RATES BASED ON THE NEW RATE STUDY SEE YOU HIRE A CONSULTANT TO DO THAT. I WOULD ALSO DEFER TO VENTS TO SUPPLEMENT THAT FOR ANYTHING HE WOULD LIKE? >> JUST TO ADD TO WHAT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY HAS HAD AND OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE VERY FAR ONTO THIS. THIS WOULD CHANGE WHAT THEY HAVE NOW AND WHAT THE EXISTING FIRE SERVICES HAVE IN PLACE IT DOES TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE VFD AND HOW THEY FUND THEM CURRENTLY OUT OF THE FIRE SERVICES. IT IS ABOUT A HALF $1 MILLION A YEAR CURRENTLY OUT OF THE FIRE SERVICES FEE AND IT IS COMPLEMENTED WITHIN THE BUDGET SERVICES AND ALL OF THAT. >> WE DIDN'T SEE IT ON THE GRAPH. WE DIDN'T SEE ANY MOVEMENT OF THAT MONEY. SO I GUESS WE HAD ANOTHER CATEGORY ON THIS LEVEL? WE NEEDS TO CAPTURE THAT AND IT NEEDS TO BE PRESENTED TO US. >> IT IS REFLECTED WITHIN THE BUDGET DETAILS BUT WE DID NOT GO TO THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL. >> IT FEELS STRANGE THAT WE WOULD BE LEVERAGING $11 MILLION COMING BACK WITHIN THAT VOLUNTEER LEVEL. THANK YOU. OTHER ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF STAFF RECOMMENDATION? ANY OPPOSITION? HERRING ON IT PASSED. THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS. >> I MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE CONCERN THOSE HOUSING AUTHORITIES HERE ANY MOTION? >> SECONDED. >> ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? >> IF STAFF COULD FORWARD THAT LETTER TO ME OTHER THAN THAT THAT IS FINE. >> I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO COMING BACK TO THE NEXT AGENDA MEETING. THE CITY OF TALLAHASSEE WILL BE TAKING IT UP TOMORROW AT THEIR BOARD MEETING. JUST FYI THEY SENT AN EMAIL OUT TO ALL OF US WITH THE EMAIL ATTACHED WAS A LETTER SENT US AS WELL AS THE CITY AGENDA. I'M READY TO VOTE I JUST WANTED THAT FOR MY RECORDS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? COMING ON TO A REQUEST FOR MISS BRENDA AND THE HOUSING AUTHORITY. IT IS UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU ANYTHING COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE? I WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR THE HARD WORK IF THIS EVERY YEAR. THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS WE DO AS A LOCAL GOVERNMENT. THIS IS THE FIRST BUDGET AND THEY DO AN AMAZING JOB. I COULD TELL YOU THE NERVES WERE ALL OVER THE PLACE AND YOU DID VERY WELL INDICATIVE OF THE BUDGET THAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAST YOUR PREDECESSORS TRAINED YOU WELL. SO THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR FOR LEADING US THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND I LOOK FORWARD TO OUR NEXT BUDGET WORKSHOP WHICH WE WOULD CONSIDER ITEM NUMBER FOUR AGAIN. AND I WANT US TO REMEMBER AS WE THINK ABOUT THIS WHAT IT MEANS. WE WOULD LIKE TO AT LEAST KEEP AWARE OF WHAT THE INFLATION IS. THERE IS NO RACE THAT WE HAVE HERE TO COMPETE WITH OTHER GOVERNMENTS WHEN IT COMES TO WHAT WE'RE DOING. THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER CABAN. COMMISSIONER PROCTOR? >> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. STAFF I WOULD LIKE TO ASK FOR MY UNDERSTANDING FOR TODAY IT WILL BE PACKAGED IN THE NEXT ITERATION OF THE BUDGET. AND THEN WE WOULD HEAR FROM THE CONSTITUTIONAL'S WHO WOULD HAVE RESPONDED AND WE WILL GET WHAT THEIR NUMBERS ARE LOOKING LIKE IS THAT ACCURATE FOR THE NEXT MEETING? OKAY. AND THEN WE WILL HAVE AT LEAST A SHADOW OF THAT 5% IS A POSSIBILITY. THE NEXT MEETING AFTER THAT WILL BE A FINAL AND WHAT THE DEAL ON THAT IS. SO I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT THAT IS VERY EASY FOR COMMISSIONER MADDOX TO SUPPORT YOUR MOTION TODAY. WITH BRENDA WILLIAMS AND THAT FINALITY IN THE TALLAHASSEE HOUSING AUTHORITY. ONE OF THESE THINGS FROM MY UNDERSTANDING AS THEY SEEK TO DO A NEW MASTER PLAN TO LOOK AT DOING THE SAME TO THE JOE LOUIS HOUSING PROJECT. MY HOPE IS THAT THE MASTER PLANNING IS HERE FOR THE JOE LOUIS HOUSING. SO SHOUT OUT TO HER. I KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN BURNING THE MIDNIGHT OIL. USE SET HERE YEAR AFTER YEAR AND THIS IS MY FAVORITE TIME OF YEAR. THIS WILL BE PASSED AROUND THE ROTATION OF THESE NUMBERS THAT HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH THE ABILITY TO REACH AND IMPROVE THE COMMUNITY. SO THANK YOU ALL. YOU'VE BEEN WONDERFUL AND YOU HAVE MADE MY TIME WONDERFUL AGAIN. I AM GRATEFUL TO SERVE WITH THE COMMISSION HERE. YOU ARE NOT THE PRETTIEST COUNTY COMMISSION BUT OUR CHAIR LADY IS. THEY ARE TRYING TO BRING THIS UP BUT BESIDES THAT YOU ARE VERY GOOD TO SEE. THIS IS AN UNBELIEVABLE RESPONSE AND I KNOW WE'VE ALL HAD A TON OF PHONE CALLS ABOUT FLOODING AND THIS SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFICULT ISSUE WITH LONG HOURS IN THE PUBLIC WORKS AREAS WHERE I WOULD CONTEND AND SUBJECTIVELY IS THE GREATEST PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT IN THE WORLD. JUST SUPER RESPONSIVE AND CAPABLE. IT ALWAYS MAKES US LOOK GOOD. THEY REALLY SHOW UP AND THAT SPEAKS TO MY POINT THOSE FOLKS ARE OUT ALL NIGHT 24 HOURS OF TIME JUST TO FIX WHAT THEY HAD TO DO IMMEDIATELY. I KNOW THAT THERE ARE MORE PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THESE DEPARTMENTS AND CERTAINLY THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR IS KEEPING US IN THE LOOP AND KEEPING US INFORMED TELLING US THIS IS THE STATUS OF THIS AND THAT AND IT'S VERY MICRO HANDLED AND I APPRECIATE THAT. >> I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST AS YOU ALL KNOW WE LOST OUR GOVERNOR ALL THOSE IN FAVOR LET IT BE KNOWN? NO OPPOSITION. >> PLEASE NOTE IN THE RESOLUTION THAT THE COMMISSION WOULD TOLERATE THAT I AM A FORMER STAFFER AND I WANT TO NOTE THAT BUT FOR HIS OFFICE I WOULD NOT BE HERE. SO ON BEHALF OF OUR COUNTY AND THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER HE IS HER BOSS. >> I ALSO WORK FOR THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND I THINK MANY OF US HAVE FOND MEMORIES AND CONNECTIONS WITH GOVERNOR GRAHAM AND I WANT TO REITERATE IN YOUR REMARKABLE STAFF THERE ARE SENTIMENTS HERE WITH ALL THE COMMISSIONERS AND THE HARD WORK THAT YOU DO WITHIN THAT PRESENTATION BOTH VERBALLY AND WITHIN WRITTEN ANALYSIS THERE IS A ROADMAP TO ALL OF US THAT IS ON TOP OF THAT BUDGET AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO OUR NEXT BUDGET MEETING. SO THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH AND I HOPE THAT WHAT WE DO HERE DOES NOT DEFLATE OUR EMPLOYEES. WE WILL BE LOOKING AT ADDRESSING ALL OF THIS. THE EXECUTIVES THE ADMINISTRATORS THOSE THAT ARE IN THE TRENCHES AND WE CERTAINLY WITNESSED ALL OF THIS DURING THE FLOODING OVER THE LAST FEW DAYS SO WE APPRECIATES THE HARD WORK AND OF COURSE WE DO GET ACCOLADES ALL THE TIME FOR COMMON SENTENCE AND CITIZENS WHO REPRESENT ALL OF THIS BUT ESPECIALLY DURING THAT FLOODING A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO. SO THANK YOU ALL FOR ALL THAT YOU DO. AND I APOLOGIZE MADAM COUNTY ATTORNEY DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? >> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. >> NOTHING FURTHER THEN. JUST A SINCERE THANK YOU TO THE BOARD FOR ALL OF YOUR CONTINUED ALSO WANT TO GIVE HER SHONDA A SHOUT OUT HERE FOR LEADING US TO THIS PROCESS. COMMISSIONER MADDOX SAID WE ONLY LOST 70 YEARS BUT SHE HAS STEPPED UP AND TRUTH BE TOLD SHE'S BEEN DOING THIS BUDGET FOR ABOUT A DECADE ANYWAY.'S WE REALLY APPRECIATE HER AND COMMISSIONER WELCH I'M TOLD IS THE MASTER BRANDER REFERRING TO THAT APRIL 11th STORM A HAPPENED IN 2024 AND THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TELLS US IT WAS A ONCE IN 200 YEAR EVENT. SO HENCEFORTH THIS IS THE BICENTENNIAL STORM THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU MR. COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE? >> I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR BEING FULLY IN CHARGE OF ALL OF THIS LEFT ALREADY FORGOTTEN THE PERSONS BEFORE YOU. >> SHOUT OUTS TO ALL OF YOU HERE. THANK YOU. THIS MEETING IS NOW ADJOURNED.