>> OR IT IS 09:00AM AND WE'RE  IN THE CITY CHAMBERS AND I ALL  THIS CITY COMMISSION WORKSHOP  MEETING TO ORDER. ROLL PRESENT  ARE. COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL  COMMISSIONER LANGDON MYSELF  MAYOR WHITE VICE MAYOR SOAKED  COMMISSIONER EMRICH. SO THERE  IS A QUORUM ALSO PRESENT WE  HAVE CITY MANAGER FLETCHER  CITY ATTORNEY SLAYTON. CITY  CLERK FAUST GOOD TO SEE YOU  SPECIALIST OWNER. POLICE CHIEF  GARRISON AND DEPUTY FIRE CHIEF  IN THE BACK PLEDGE OF  ALLEGIANCE. I'M GOING TO  SURPRISE CALL ON LAURA ANSEL  TO LEAD US AT  >> IS TO BUY OF THE UNITED  STATES OF AMERICA AND TO FOR  WHICH IT ONE NATION UNDER GOD  INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND  JUSTICE FOR ALL. I THANK YOU.  DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC. COMMENT  YEAH. SO WE'RE MOVING ON TO  PRESENTATIONS ITEM H 20 OR  DASH 0, 3, 7, 4, CITY MANAGER  THIS IS YOUR ITEM. IF YOU  THERE.  >> THIS IS TABLE TO THE PUBLIC  COME WITH AN UPDATE ON THE  APPOINTMENT REGULATIONS  REGARDING OF PROPERTY AND ALL  AS OUTREACH FOR THESE. WE DO  HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR YOU.  THAT THEY TRUMP WAS POOR TAKE  IT. WITH PRESENTATION OF IT  YOU MIGHT REMEMBER THAT THAT  CAN LAST JULY THE COMMISSION.  >> AT A REGULAR MEETING  INDIRECT BEST AND  >> THAT'S TO COURSE THAT OUR  REGULATIONS REGARDING  TRESPASSING AND PUBLIC  PROPERTY. AS WELL AS EFFORTS  OF WITH OUTREACH. WE'VE HAD  MULTIPLE INTO DEPARTMENT WITH  NOT ONLY POLICE BUT SERVICES.  SO ALL THE DEPARTMENTS TO SORT  YOU THE PICTURE WHERE WE ARE  RIGHT NOW. WHAT YOU YOU GIVE  WOULD LIKE DO NEXT.  >> OKAY GOOD MORNING SCOTT  KING FOR THE POLICE  DEPARTMENT. TODAY'S HAS BEEN  COMPLETED.  >> IN COMBINATION WITH THE EU  COMMUNITY SERVICES DIVISION OF  THE SPECIAL OPERATIONS FOR THE  POLICE DEPARTMENT. WE HAD 2  QUESTIONS THAT ASKED TO BE  BROUGHT BACK ONE THE TO BRING  BACK IN THE AGENDA ITEM FOR AN  UPDATE ON ENFORCEMENT OF  REGULATIONS REGARDING  TRESPASSING ON PUBLIC PROPERTY  AND TO BRING BACK ITEM WITH AN  UPDATE ON HOMELESS OUTREACH  TEAM EFFORTS TO PROVIDE  ASSISTANCE TO INDIVIDUALS THAT  ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.  FIRST JUST IN MAKE SURE  EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS WHAT  WE'RE AND INDIVIDUAL THAT'S A  THING HOMELESSNESS IS AN  INDIVIDUAL WHO LACKS EVEN  FIXED REGULAR OR ADEQUATE  NIGHTTIME RESIDENCE, OR HAS A  PRIMARY NIGHT TIME RESIDENTS  THAT IS EITHER SUPERVISED  PUBLICLY OR PRIVATELY OPERATED  DESIGNED TO PROVIDE TEMPORARY  LIVING ACCOMMODATIONS. AND  INSTITUTION THAT PROVIDES A  TEMPORARY RESIDENCE OR  INDIVIDUALS INTENDED OR TO IS  TO INSTITUTIONALIZED OR PUBLIC  OR PRIVATE PLACE NOT DESIGNED.  ORDINARILY USED AS A REGULAR  SLEEPING ACCOMMODATION FOR  HUMAN BEINGS, INCLUDING A CAR.  A PARK ABANDONED BUILDING BUS  TRAIN STATION AIRPORT OR  CAMPING AROUND. FIRST WE  STARTED OFF WITH AN ANALYSIS  OF A MORE STRENGTHS WEAKNESSES  OPPORTUNITIES AND THREATS.  MOST OF THESE FOR THE  STRENGTHS, WE'RE WORKING WITH  THE AGENCIES THROUGHOUT THE  BETWEEN SOCIAL SERVICES, THE  ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND PUBLIC  WORKS. WE'VE ALSO CREATED SOME  POSITIVE WORKING WITH  NONPROFITS WITH THE HOMELESS  TO HOMES MEETINGS THAT WE  ATTEND REGULARLY AS WELL AS  PARTNERSHIPS WITH FDOT SINCE  SOME OF THE CAMPS THAT WE  ENCOUNTER ALONG 41 AND THE  BREEZE. WE HAVE TO REACH OUT  TO FDOT. SOME OF THE ISSUES  THAT WE'VE COME ACROSS THAT  OUR WEAKNESSES. OUR ONE THE  LACK OF PROPER AS ALTERNATE  PLACEMENTS SINCE THE CITY  ITSELF DOES NOT HAVE ANY  SHELTERS. FOR THEM TO BE  HOUSED IN AFTER THE HURRICANE  AND WE LOST A FEW OF THE  HOUSES THAT WE USE THAT WE CAN  FOR TRANSITIONAL TOO. THE  BIGGEST PART THAT WE DEAL WITH  IS THE REFUSAL OF SERVICES  FROM THE INDIVIDUALS THAT WE  ENCOUNTER. A LACK OF PROPER  SIGNAGE WHICH WE'VE BEEN  WORKING WITH THE CITY ON FOR  SOME OF THE PARKS. SOME OF  THAT WASN'T LABEL PROPERLY FOR  THEM TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE  VIOLATIONS ARE THAT THEY'RE  GOING TO BE DOING WHILE  THEY'RE IN THE PARK. AND WITH  CODE ENFORCEMENT THE DECLINE  OF INFORMATION. THERE WERE  PROMOTIONS, NEW PEOPLE THAT  DIDN'T KNOW CERTAIN RULES THAT  WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH TO GET  THEM UP TO SPEED NOW THAT  THOSE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN  PROMOTED TO DIFFERENT SPOTS.  SOME OF OUR OPPORTUNITIES  IDENTIFYING PARTNERSHIPS  WITHIN THE CITY IDENTIFYING  FOR POTENTIAL SHELTERS OR  HOUSING AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND  IDENTIFYING NEW RESOURCES FOR  INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE  EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.  SOME OF THE THREATS THAT WE  FEEL WE HAVE FOUND WHILE  THEY'RE OUT THERE IS POTENTIAL  FOR VIOLATIONS THE PROPERTY  RIGHTS AND PREFERRED POTENTIAL  FOR CONTAMINATION OF  WATERWAYS. SOME OF THESE  CAMPGROUNDS ARE NEAR OUR  WATERWAYS AND DEPENDING ON  WHERE THEY'RE AT WHAT THEY'RE  DOING IN THOSE AREAS. IT KIND  OF GO INTO OUR WATER IS WHICH  WE WORK WITH THE CITY AS WELL  ON THAT WITH PUBLIC WORKS TO  CLEAN UP THOSE AREAS SOON AS  WE IDENTIFIED. AND THEN  POTENTIAL FOR CITIZENS TO  INCUR ANY ADDITIONAL FEES IF  SOMEONE THAT'S HOMELESS FINDS  THEIR PROPERTY. THAT IS MAYBE.  ABANDONED OR USED THAT LIKE IT  AND DO A LOT. BUT THEY HAVEN'T  BUILT ON AND THEY FIND THAT A  CAMP ON IT IF THEY MOVE FROM  THAT AREA AND WE FIND IT NOW  IT'S THAT OWNER OF THE  PROPERTY THAT HAS TO PAY FOR  ALL THAT STUFF TO BE REMOVED.  THE COMMUNITY POLICING  ENFORCEMENT IS WE TRY TO  EDUCATE FIRST. EDUCATE  INDIVIDUALS THEY'RE  EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS  ABOUT THE LAWS AND TRY TO  EDUCATE THEM ON THE LOCAL  HOUSING AND SOCIAL SERVICES.  OUR OUTREACH TEAM. WE ALSO  WORK WITH STAKEHOLDERS TO  EDUCATE THEM THROUGH OUR  MEETINGS THROUGH THE HOMELESS  TO HOMES AND PUSH THAT OUT SO  THE MORE PEOPLE THAT KNOW THE  MORE EDUCATION WE CAN REACH  MORE PEOPLE. WE ENCOURAGE THE  INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE  EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS TO  ACCEPT THOSE SERVICES THROUGH  THE OUTREACH AND IF THERE IS  ANY ISSUES WHERE THERE'S  VIOLATIONS OF LAWS OR  ORDINANCES WE TRY TO WORK  THROUGH PRE ARREST DIVERSION  AND THEN ULTIMATELY IF WE HAVE  BE ENFORCEMENT OF THE LAW  SEPARATE FROM THE HOMELESS  THIS BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO STAY  SEPARATED. THEY'RE NOT THE  SAME SO WON'T YOU GO OUT AND  WORK WITH ON A SOCIAL SERVICE  SIDE OR AN HOUR EACH SIDE. YOU  ONLY CAN WORK ON THAT IF  THERE'S VIOLATIONS YOU CAN'T  ACT ON THOSE BECAUSE YOU'RE  WORKING AS A SOCIAL WORKER AT  THAT POINT WHEN YOU GO OUT. SO  THAT WAS VERY SPECIFIC AS WHEN  YOU GO OUT YOU CAN'T WORK AS A  SOCIAL WORKER TO GO OUT AND  ASKED A QUESTION YOU NEED ANY  SERVICES AND THEN RUN THEIR  NAME AND FIND A VIOLATION AND  TAKE THEM TO JAIL. IT IS IT  HAS TO BE ALMOST LIKE A, IF  YOU'VE HEARD US TALK ABOUT  WORK THE DUI CRASHES. YEAH,  THE WORK THE CRASH FIRST AND  IT'S THAT CRASH AND THEN WE  SAY WE'RE SWITCHING HATS. THEN  WE CAN WORK THE DUI THEY'RE 2  SEPARATE PIECES THAT YOU HAVE  TO WORK THAT INDEPENDENTLY.  THESE ARE OUR COMMUNITY  POLICING STARTING FROM BACK  2020. THE TOTAL NUMBER OF  CONTACTS THAT ARE UNIT HAS  MADE THROUGHOUT THE DEPARTMENT  AND UNIT IS 304. THE TOTAL  NUMBER OF MONTHLY FOR JANUARY  OF 2024 WAS 19 CONTACTS.  NUMBER OF CLIENTS WITH ONGOING  CASE MANAGEMENT OUR CASE  WORKER JASMINE IS 6. TOTAL  NUMBER OF ACCESS POINTS WHICH  WE WANT A LITTLE BIT MORE  EDUCATION ON THE ACCESS POINTS  IN WHAT SHE DOES JASMINE CAN  EXPLAIN A LOT BETTER THAN I  CAN. BUT THAT'S 97 SINCE 2020.  THE TOTAL NUMBER OF MONTHLY  FOR JANUARY ACCESS POINTS  WHERE IS TOO. AND THE TOTAL  NUMBER OF. 2022 CURRENT OF  CLIENTS THAT WE'VE HOUSE IS  53. FOR A NUMBER OF ROAD  PATROL REFERRALS IS A 119.  TOTAL NUMBER OF CLIENTS NOT  LITERALLY UNHOUSED BUT  ASSISTED WITH OTHER RESOURCES  OR OTHER MEANS IS 58 AND THEN  THE TOTAL NUMBER OF CLIENTS  THAT REFUSE SERVICES OR WE  WERE UNABLE TO REACH WAS A  130. JUST FOR CONTEXT THAT  CONTACT IS DEFINED DEPARTMENT  MEMBERS MEETING WITH  INDIVIDUALS EXPERIENCING  HOMELESSNESS AND DETERMINING  THEIR NEEDS AND RESOURCES  AVAILABLE. THIS MAP IS THE  LOCATION OF WHERE ALL OF OUR  CAMPS ARE YEAR-TO-DATE THAT  WE'VE COME IN CONTACT WITH.  MAJORITY OF THE CAMPS ARE  UNDEVELOPED LAND OR LAND THAT.  IS BEHIND BUSINESSES THAT ARE  WHAT IT. WE TRY TO WORK WITH  THE BUSINESS OWNERS IF IT'S  PRIVATE. WE WILL GET A  TRESPASS WARNING WE WILL WORK  WITH THEM TO GET THEM MOVED  OFF THAT PROPERTY AND THEN WE  WORK WITH THE CITY AS WELL TO  HELP MOVE WHATEVER BELONGINGS  IS LEFT ON THE PROPERTY. THESE  NUMBERS FROM THE TIME WE  CREATED THE COMMUNITY POLICING  SERVICES DIVISION. THIS IS  CONTACTS INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE  EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS NOW  THESE NUMBERS MIGHT NOT THERE.  SOME OF THEM ARE LOOK AT ITS.  IT'S JUST ANY TIME AN OFFICER  COMES IN CONTACT WITH ONE.  THAT IS IS EXPERIENCING  HOMELESSNESS THESE NUMBERS ARE  A LOT MORE THEN THE 119 OF THE  REFERRALS BECAUSE WE MIGHT  COME IN CONTACT WITH THE SAME  PERSON MULTIPLE TIMES. SO  WE'RE STILL DURING THOSE  ENCOUNTERS OFFERING THEM  RESOURCES AND ASSISTANCE AND  THEN THAT INFORMATION IS  FORWARDED TO OUR COMMUNITY  POLICING UNIT AND THEY WILL  FOLLOW AND IF THEY ALREADY  HAVE A CASE WORKING WITH THEM.  AND THEY'LL REACH BACK OUT THE  NEXT DAY AND FOLLOW UP WITH  THEM TO SEE IF THERE'S  ANYTHING NEW OR CHANGES OR  THEIR STATUS HAS CHANGED. IF  THEY'RE LOOKING AT MOVING OR  GOING SOMEWHERE DIFFERENT. AS  FAR AS THE RELOCATION OF  INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE  EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS  PURSUANT TO FEDERAL CASE LAW.  AND THIS IS FROM ANOTHER  CIRCUIT BUT CITIES CANNOT MAKE  LIFE-SUSTAINING ACTIVITIES  SUCH AS SLEEPING ON A PARK  BENCH FOR EXAMPLE. A CRIME  UNLESS THERE IS AN ALTERNATIVE  WHICH WE DON'T HAVE ANY THAT  ARE IN THE CITY OR WITHIN A  CLOSE PROXIMITY. AS A SHELTER  AVAILABLE. THE CASE LAW IS  FROM OTHER CIRCUITS THEREFORE  IT IS A PERSUASIVE BUT NOT  BINDING TO THE CITY SO WE JUST  KEEP THAT IN MIND THAT WE WANT  TO HAVE THE BEST PRACTICE WHEN  WE MOVE FORWARD ASKING IN  TRYING TO HELP PEOPLE  RELOCATE. WE DON'T WANT TO  PUSH THEM OUT TO THE WRONG  AREA OR PUT HIM IN A POSITION  WHERE THEY CANNOT COME BACK TO  WHAT THEY CONSIDER HOME.  BEFORE I MOVE ON TO THE  TRESPASS BECAUSE THEY ARE  COMPLETELY SEPARATE ONE DOES  NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH  THE OTHER PER SE DOES ANYONE  HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE  HOMELESS SIDE OF IT FIRST. I  DON'T KNOW THEY HAVE ANY  QUESTIONS.  >> WELL HAD SOME QUESTIONS  ABOUT THE CAMPS IS THE TIME TO  QUESTION. THERE WAS NOTHING  SHOWING ON PAN AMERICAN AND  I'VE PEOPLE THAT THERE'S  CAMPS. OFF OF PAN AMERICAN.  ACTUAL I GUESS WHAT DEFINES A  CAMP HOW DO DEFINE A CAMPUS  OPPOSED TO SOMEONE WHO.  >> THEY'VE BEEN THERE FOR A  COUPLE NIGHTS.  >> I JUMPED ON HER WITH HOME  SOUTH RIDGE COMMUNITY WE SO  THAT MAP IS DESIGNED TO SHOW  THE LARGER CAMPS THAT ARE IN  AREAS. ONE THAT WOULD HAVE  MULTIPLE INDIVIDUALS THAT  STAYING ON THAT SAME AREA. THE  SINGULAR CANCER YOU SEE OFF  PAN AMERICAN FOR INSTANCE ARE  USUALLY SOMEBODY THAT'S KIND  OF BOUNCING AROUND FROM PLACE  TO PLACE AND IT'S NOT A  PERMANENT AREA WHERE THEY GO  EVERY SINGLE DAY. NEW ONE THAT  POPPED UP AN AMERICAN THAT  SHOULD BE SETTLED AS WELL I  KNOW THERE'S BEEN AN ISSUE  WITH THE WOODED AREA BETWEEN  WILLOW CREEK WE'RE WAKING  CHURCHES. THAT WAS A NEW  POP-UP THAT KIND OF HAS FLARED  UP FROM TIME TO TIME BECAUSE  IT'S A GIANT PARCEL OF LAND  THAT'S OVER THERE. THAT WAS I  BELIEVE TAKEN CARE OF OVER THE  WEEKEND. SO THAT SHOULD  ♪ BE THE OTHER ONE THAT'S OVER  BEHIND THE  ♪ BUSINESSES THERE IS THAT THE  OTHER ONE THAT YOU'RE THINKING  OF. IS THAT THERE'S A WHERE  TEMPLE YOU'LL GET USED TO BE  THE NEW OF I'S A THAT ON  PUBLIC PROPERTY ON THE  WATERWAY SO WE'RE STILL AND  THE WORKS OF TRYING TO FIGURE  OUT WHAT TO DO WITHOUT. BUT  YEAH THAT MAP THE WAY IT'S  DESIGNED SOMETHING THAT IS  MORE BE. I'M ALMOST LIKE A  LIVING QUARTERS AND THINGS  THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT UP TO  WHERE THERE'S MULTIPLE  INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE STAYING  ON THOSE PIECE THE PARCELS SO  OKAY THAT ANSWER.  >> YES, IT DOES BECAUSE I JUST  HAD A PROGRAM AT THE.  >> FOR ALL THE MOBILE HOME  PARKS, THE ASSOCIATION AND IT  WAS SOMEBODY THERE FROM THE  COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT  AND THEY SPECIFICALLY ASKED  HIM WHAT ARE YOU DOING ABOUT  HOMELESS CAMPS ON PAN AMERICAN  OF COURSE SAID THAT IS NOT OUR  JURISDICTION.  >> SO THAT PIECE OF LAND THAT  DO HAVE AN ACTIVE TRESPASS  AFFIDAVIT FOR THAT SO ANY  INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE ON THEY  SHOULD BE. REMOVING A TIMELY  FASHION IF THERE'S AN ISSUE  THAT'S THAT'S GREAT.  >> AND THEN I HAD A QUESTION  ABOUT THE ENFORCE OUR OF YOUR  3 E'S. OTHER THAN IF THEY  DON'T HAVE AN OUTSTANDING  WARRANT THAT IS I WOULD SAY  YOU DO YOU IF THEY HAVE  SOMETHING OUTSTANDING AND  THAT'S HOW YOU CAN.  >> GET THEM OUT OF THERE, BUT  IF THEY IS THERE EVER A CASE  WHERE THEY DON'T HAVE AN  OUTSTANDING.  >> SO INFORCEMENT DOESN'T  NECESSARILY MEAN THAT IT'S  IT'S JUST CRIMINAL EITHER SO  THERE THERE'S OTHER THINGS  THAT THAT WE IN FOREST CITY  ORDINANCES WHEN IT COMES TO  VIOLATIONS THAT ARE IN THE  PARKS. THOSE BECOME A LITTLE  DIFFICULT LIKE THE CAPTAIN  SAID JUST BECAUSE OF THE  WORDING OF A LOT OF THE  SIGNAGE OVER THERE. AND THEN  THE LACK OF ALTERNATIVE MEANS  TO HAVE SOMEBODY GO TO A  SHELTER BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE  A HEART SHELTER IN THIS AREA  MORE. BUT IT'S NOT ALWAYS JUST  A CRIMINAL THING THAT WE WE  HAVE TO ENFORCE THE CITY  ORDINANCES AND OTHER OTHER  THINGS LIKE THE TRESPASSES AND  STUFF LIKE THAT THAT WOULD BE  ENFORCEMENT MEASURES AS WELL.  >> SAY THAT THAT K.  >> THAT IS JUST THE TIME DEATH  QUESTION ABOUT SIDEWALKS. OR  KNOW IS THAT COMING UP IN  SOMETHING DIFFERENT WITH THAT  THAT HAS BEEN DON'T KNOW A  SOLUTION FOR THAT RIGHT NOW  OK. ALL RIGHT AND I DO  APPRECIATE YOU SAYING THAT YOU  KNOW SLEEPING ON A PARK BENCH  ITSELF CANNOT BE AN ILLEGAL  ACTIVITY BECAUSE.  >> I JUST WANT TO PART NOT  JUST FOR THE REST OF FOR THAT  SO I KNOW THAT WHEN I  EXPLAINED PEOPLE THAT'S A FINE  LINE BETWEEN.  ♪ WHAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY ENFORCE  WITHOUT STEPPING OVER STEPPING  INTO SOMEONE ELSE'S FREEDOM  JUST TO SIT AN  ♪ APARTMENT MAYBE YES.  COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL.  >> I'M LOOKING AT POLICE  DEPARTMENT ENGAGEMENT STANCE.  >> IT'S A FEW CONFIRM THAT  THINK YOU.  >> 665. SINCE 2020. HOW MANY  WHAT WOULD YOU SAY IS THE  PERCENTAGE OF REPEAT  OFFENDERS.  >> BASED ON THAT NUMBER THERE  WE ONLY HAVE A 119 THAT ARE  ACTUALLY REFERRED MOST OF  THOSE THE NUMBERS YOU SEE HERE  THAT I'VE SEEN THERE  DUPLICATES. AND OFFICER MIGHT.  BECAUSE OF WHERE ROTATIONS  WORK, SOMEONE MIGHT BE  SOMEBODY ON A TUESDAY. AND  THEN THE NEXT SHIFT COMES IN  THE NEXT DAY OR THAT SAME  NIGHT. AND IT'S DIFFERENT  PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING THEY  MIGHT COME IN CONTACT WITH THE  SAME PERSON A REFERRAL FOR US,  BUT IT'S THAT ONE SAME PERSON,  THOSE 3 TO 4 DIFFERENT.  CONTACTS ONLY GIVE US ONE  REFERRAL AT THE END OF THE  DAY. THAT'S WHY THAT THE  NUMBERS ARE THERE BECAUSE  THAT'S HOW MANY TIMES OUR GUYS  ARE OUT THERE IN COUNTERING  THEM FINDING OUT IF THERE'S  ISSUES AND DEALING WITH ACTUAL  CALLS FOR SERVICE. BUT THEN  THE REFERRALS BECAUSE WE ONLY  HAVE THE 119. THOSE ARE THE  ONES THAT GETS INTO THE  COMMUNITY POLICING OF THAT  665.  >> IT SAFE TO SAY THE 119 OR  CONSIDERED LIKE  >> NEW CASES.  >> THOSE ARE THE CASES THAT  HAVE BEEN REFERRED OUT OF THE  665 IT COULD BE THE 119, BUT  THEY'RE MET MULTIPLE  >> IS IT INCLUDING THE ONES  THAT REFUSE SERVICE. YES, HOW  WHAT WOULD YOU SAY IS THAT  PERSON BECAUSE I WOULD I WOULD  ASSUME THE 6.65 INCLUDES THOSE  THAT YOU REACHED OUT TO YOU  MADE CONTACT WITH YOU OFFERED  THEM REFERRALS.  >> AND THEY REFUSE CORRECT. SO  WHAT DOES THAT PERCENTAGE OF  REFERRAL REFUSAL OR YOU KNOW  THEY JUST REFUSE SERVICES  ALTOGETHER.  >> ALL RIGHT SO JAZZ AND WALTZ  HOMELESS OUTREACH TEAM CASE  MANAGER WITH THE NORTH PARK  POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR THE  RECORD.  >> I WOULD SAY PROBABLY.  >> AT LEAST HALF.  >> BRIDGE.  >> I'M OUR CONTACTS IN GENERAL  SO LIKE THAT THAT PREVIOUS  SLIDE THAT HAD YOU KNOW OUR  HISTORICAL DATA FROM THE  INCEPTION OF THE PROGRAM  UNTIL.  >> JANUARY. WITH 304 CONTACTS.  SO THOSE ARE CONTACTS THAT ARE  EITHER BEING WITH I MYSELF BY  THE PHONER WITH AN OFFICER  WHEN WE'RE BOOTS ON THE GROUND  OUT THE FIELD. AND AS YOU CAN  SEE BOTTOM. WE HAVE A 130 THAT  HAVE REFUSE SERVICES.  >> YOU KNOW WE SAW. ANOTHER  ROAD PATROL OFFICER SAW ONE  POINT AND LET US KNOW WE GET  OUT THERE WE CAN'T REACH THEM  OR THEY GIVE A PHONE NUMBER TO  ROAD PATROL OFFICER AND  BECAUSE IT'S OVERNIGHT.  >> I COME IN THE NEXT MORNING  AND I ATTEMPTS TO MAKE CONTACT  BY PHONE AND I'M UNABLE TO  REACH THEM AND THEN WE DON'T  SEE THEM WHEN WE'RE OUT IN THE  FIELD SO I WOULD SAY  ITS ON AVERAGE PROBABLY AT  LEAST HALF AREN'T. WILLING GET  ON BOARD WITH WHAT IT TAKES TO  BEGIN, YOU KNOW A PROCESS  CHANGING THERE ON HOW  SITUATION.  >> THAT'S KIND OF WHERE THAT  PERCENTAGE WAS GOING TO LAND.  OF THE 119. THAT ARE READY FOR  IT. IT APPEARS THERE'S ONLY  LIKE. POLICE A MONTH WHEN YOU  AVERAGE IT TOGETHER THAT YEAR  COMING IN CONTACT SOMEBODY  KNEW GETTING THE AND IT'S JUST  OVER 2 TIMES A MONTH. IT  DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A LOT  CONSIDERING THE AMOUNT OF  PEOPLE THAT. UP HERE TO BE  HOMELESS AND I KNOW THERE'S A  LOT OF PEOPLE THAT MAY NOT BE.  LIST BY DEFINITION RIGHT. BUT  I WOULD ASSUME YOU'RE MAKING  CONTACT WITH THEM TOO.  >> SO I WOULD SAY THAT THAT.  >> 119 NUMBER THAT THAT I'M  COUNTING IN THAT NUMBER IS  THERE'S A PHYSICAL REFERRAL  FORM THAT THE ROAD PATROL USES  WHEN THEY COME ACROSS  EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS OUT  IN THE FIELD AND WE'RE NOT  AVAILABLE TO COME OUT THERE  AND ASSIST OR SPEAK WITH THEM  OR GET THAT PROCESS STARTED SO  THAT 119 IS IT'S A COOL RUFFO  FORMS THAT I HAVE RECEIVED OR  WE HAVE RECEIVED AS A TEAM  FROM THE ROAD. MEANWHILE,  THERE'S MANY TIMES WHEN YOU  KNOW IT'S A MONDAY AT NOON AND  SOMEBODY ON THE ROAD COMES  ACROSS SOMEBODY AND THEY CALL  US AND WE GO OUT, YOU KNOW  EVEN THOUGH THEY MIGHT HAVE I  GUESS YOU COULD TECHNICALLY  COUNTED AS REFERRAL THERE WAS  NO FORM CENT. SO WE'RE  COUNTING IT MORE AS A CONTACT  BECAUSE WE PHYSICALLY WENT AND  MADE CONTACT WITH THAT PERSON.  WHILE WE WERE YOU KNOW WHILE  WE WERE ON OUR SHIFT.  >> SO.  >> HOW HOW IS.  >> I THINK IT WAS LIKE  SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR THAT  SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT OR THE  COUNTY I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT  ALL BEAR WITH I'M DOING AWAY  WITH THE 2, 1, 1, SERVICES.  >> IS IS THAT ACCURATE.  >> I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS  FORMALIZED IF IT WAS JUST THEY  REMOVED THEIR BUDGETING SO 2,  1, 1, IS NO LONGER ACTIVE IN  SARASOTA I MEAN IN NORTH PORT  ANSWER SO THE COUNTY.  >> YES, SO AS FAR AS I KNOW  THAT'S JUST NOW I'M COMING  ABOUT YOU KNOW I THINK THEY  WERE 2, 1, ONE STILL WAS BEING  USED BUT NOW YOU KNOW EFFECTS  OF THAT A COUNTY COMMISSIONER  MEETING WHERE THEY FUNDING  WASN'T GRANTED. IS NOW  STARTING TO PLAY OUT WHERE.  BUT IN MY EXPERIENCE IN THE  PAST IT WAS YOU KNOW SOMEBODY  WOULD CALL TO 1 ONE THEY WOULD  ASK ZIP CODE THEY WOULD TELL  HIM THEIR ZIP CODE AND THEN  THEY WOULD JUST GIVE THEM  BASICALLY A LIST OF RESOURCES  BASED ON THAT ZIP CODE. SO I'M  GUESSING NOW THAT THAT WILL BE  AVAILABLE EITHER.  >> 2 ON ONE IF I WAS TO CALL  2, 1, 1, THEN IT'S  >> INOPERATIVE LINE I BELIEVE  SO I'M NOT CERTAIN BUT I  BELIEVE SO BECAUSE I BELIEVE  THAT'S ALL VERY NEW IT'S NOT  WORKING FOR AREA. ANY LONGER.  BUT THAT'S NOT HELPING  SITUATIONS.  >> YEAH, IT'S TOUGH BECAUSE  YOU KNOW YOU CAN SEE ON THE IS  ON THE TOTAL NUMBER OF CLIENTS  YOU KNOW, I'M NOT LITERALLY ON  HOW SO THOSE ARE PEOPLE COME  ACROSS ARE DESPERATE PLAY IF  YOU WILL THAT ARE EXPERIENCING  HOMELESSNESS BUT THEY'RE  LOOKING FOR THINGS LIKE HELP  WITH PASS TO MORTGAGE OR RENT  OR UTILITIES. THINGS OF THAT  NATURE AND THEY DON'T KNOW  WHERE TO GO. SO THEY SEE US  AND THEY'RE LIKE OH MY GOSH.  YOU KNOW THE POLICE DEPARTMENT  CAN HELP ME AND SO THEY COME  ACROSS AND WE DO. DO OUR BEST  TO CONNECT THEM TO SOME SORT  OF RESOURCES THAT'S GOING TO  ASSIST IN THEIR NEED EVEN  THOUGH THAT'S NOT EXACTLY OUR  HOMELESS OUTREACH MODEL OR OR  WHAT WORST FOCUSED IT'S NOT  OUR FOCUS, YOU KNOW SO. 2, 1,  1, NOT BEING AVAILABLE IS  OBVIOUSLY GOING VASTLY EFFECT  THAT SITUATION BECAUSE  SOMETIMES IT IS YOU KNOW A  SITUATION WHERE WE'RE GETTING  THEM ALL THAT WE KNOW, BUT  WE'RE LIKE YOU KNOW THERE  MIGHT BE THINGS WE DON'T  SO-CALLED 2, 1, ONE AS WELL.  AND NOW WE'RE NOT TO BE ABLE  SUGGESTS THAT SO IT'S IT'S  GOING TO MEAN I'M GUESSING  MORE OF YOU KNOW DOING OUR  HOMEWORK TO MAKE SURE WE KNOW  WHAT'S IN THIS AREA THAT WAY  IF SOMEBODY COMES ACROSS ARE  THAT'S THAT ISN'T ON HOUSE BUT  NEEDS ASSISTANCE OTHERWISE WE  KNOW THE RIGHT PLACE REFERRED  TO.  >> IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT THE  COUNTY DIDN'T SEE THE VALUE IN  THAT JUST DON'T KNOW HOW TO  GET THAT BACK I CHIEF HASN'T  AT WAS IT INITIATED BY THE  SHERIFF FOR WHAT I WAS IN  CHARGE OF 2, 1, I MEAN IS IT  NONPROFIT.  >> YES, IT'S NOT PROFIT AS THE  COUNTY IT'S NOT SURE.  >> YES, UNITED WAY.  >> I THINK THE UNITED WAY THAT  WAS IN CHARGE OF OUR 2, 1,  ART. YOU KNOW. INFORMATION  FROM LOCAL RESOURCES TO SIDE  OF IT WAS BASED OUT OF ORLANDO  CENTRAL FLORIDA AREA. SO ITS  THE UNITED WAY OUT OF THAT  AREA THAT HANDLING OUR YOU I'M  A COMEBACK.  >> QUESTIONS COMMISSIONER  LANGDON THANK YOU MAYOR.  >> WHEN I RODE WITH THE HOT  TEAM 3 PLUS YEARS AGO. YOU  GUYS WERE TRACKING ABOUT A 100  INDIVIDUALS. AND I'M AND I'M  TRYING TO GET A FEEL OR HAS  THAT NUMBER AROUND. ABOUT HOW  MANY HOMELESS PEOPLE ARE YOU  TRACKING AT THIS POINT WHO  STILL TRACK AND THE WAY YOU  DID 3 YEARS AGO 3 PLUS YEARS  AGO.  >> YES, AND NO I BELIEVE WHEN  RIGHT ALONG WITH US I I'M  STILL IN MY PILOT PROGRAM WITH  SOME WAS PARTNERSHIP AT THAT  TIME SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A  DIFFERENT TYPE OF TRACKING.  BECAUSE I WASN'T WITH THE  POLICE DEPARTMENT PER SE I WAS  WITH THAT AND NONPROFIT.  >> I WOULD SAY THAT IT'S WE  HAVE SEEN SOME ROADS.  >> BECAUSE YOU KNOW IN MARCH  DUE PART UNFORTUNATELY TO THE  HURRICANE.  ♪ ♪ BUT WE HAVE ALSO SEEN SOME  DECENT SUCCESS WITH A LOT OF  THE PROGRAMS THAT HAVE BEEN  INITIATED TO ASSIST HELPING  THOSE THAT WERE AFFECTED BY  HURRICANE IAN AND I'M GETTING  THEM REHOUSED AND AND SUCH  ACTS BUT THAT'S BEEN REALLY  REALLY HELPFUL. A LOT OF THE  NONPROFITS IN THE AREA THAT  HAVE CREATED DISASTER TEAMS IN  AND THINGS TO TAKE ON THOSE  CLIENTS THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY  ON HOUSE IS DUE TO NATURAL  DISASTER.  >> WELL WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE  PEOPLE YOU WORK WITH HAVE SOME  OF INCOME. AND YOU STILL LOOK  AT THAT I I KNOW BACK THEN IT  WAS SORT OF HELPFUL TO KNOW IN  TERMS OF WHO YOU COULD HELP  THEM UP WITH 2 STILL.  >> YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT ONE  BIG IT'S IT'S A TOUGH THING.  BECAUSE THE SARASOTA COUNTY  AND THE CONTINUUM OF SAYS THAT  WE HOUSING FIRST CONTINUE ON  WE FOCUSED ON GETTING  SOMEBODY'S HOUSE FIRST AND  THEN WE CAN WORK ON THE OTHER  ISSUES LIKE. LACK OF INCOME IF  THEY NEED LIKE APPLYING FOR  SOCIAL SECURITY OR SOCIAL  SECURITY DISABILITY BENEFITS.  SUBSTANCE ABUSE TREATMENT OR  THINGS OF THAT NATURE OR EVEN  JUST FINDING A JOB IN SO THE  MODEL IS HOUSING FIRST, BUT  IT'S REALLY TOUGH BECAUSE  THERE ARE A LOT OF GRANTS OUT  THERE THAT THE NONPROFITS THAT  GET THEM. THEY THE CLIENT HAS  TO SOME SORT OF INCOME BECAUSE  THEY HAVE TO EVEN THOUGH THE  NONPROFIT CAN USE THAT THOSE  FUNDS. SO INITIALLY HOUSE THEM  AND HELP THEM FOR SO LONG  THAT'S ONLY YOU KNOW IT'S TIME  LIMITED SO THEN AT SOME POINT  THE PERSON HAS TO BE  SUSTAINABLE WITH THEIR OWN  INCOME AND AFFORD THEIR  HOUSING ON THEIR OWN. I WOULD  SAY. I WANT TO SAY ABOUT  ♪ 20% 20 TO 25% OF PEOPLE. HAVE  INCOME WHEN WE ENCOUNTER THEM  ASSIST THEM IN THEIR  SITUATION. IT'S NOT A LOT.  IT'S A DEFINITELY A  ♪ VERY LARGE TOUGH OBSTACLE FOR  OUR TEAM ALL SAY. ONE LAST ONE  OF THE REAL CHALLENGES. THAT  TEAM HAS HAD IN THE PAST WAS A  LACK SHELTER. DO YOU GUYS  STILL FEEL THAT HAVING SHELTER  TRANSITIONAL IF YOU CAN DEFINE  THE DIFFERENCE FOR ME. I THINK  IT'S TRANSITIONAL HOUSING, I'M  LOOKING FOR SORT OF A  TEMPORARY PLACE TO JUST GET  PEOPLE OFF THE STREET UNTIL  YOU CAN CONNECT THEM WITH  SOMETHING ELSE COULD YOU TALK  TO THEM A LITTLE BIT.  >> SO. ALL SAYING EMERGENCY  SHELTER IS MORE SO WHERE  SOMEONE CAN GO AND THEY JUST  NEED A ROOF OVER THEIR HEAD  FOR ONE NIGHT OR 2 NIGHTS.  >> AND THEY'RE NOT EXACTLY  ENGAGED IN A CASE MANAGEMENT  BASED PROGRAM.  >> WHERE THEY'RE WORKING ON  THEIR SITUATION TO IMPROVE IT  TOO.  >> AND THEIR SITUATION SO.  >> AS TRANSITIONAL HOUSING IS  MORE GEARED YOU KNOW INTENSIVE  CASE MANAGEMENT WHERE THERE'S  A CASE MANAGER INVOLVED  HELPING THEM.  >> WORK ON THEIR NEEDS AND  THEIR OBSTACLES TO HOUSING  BEFORE THEY CAN FIND THAT  PERMANENT HOUSING STABLE  HOUSING SITUATION. SO FOR  EXAMPLE THERE'S A TRANSITIONAL  PROGRAMS IN THE COUNTY AND  SOME OF THEM DO HAVE HOUSES  HERE IN PORT. WAS SHIPS BEING  ONE OF THEM WHICH IS AN  INITIATIVE WITH THE SHERIFF'S  DEPARTMENT AND OUR SHERIFFS  ARE YES SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND  IT'S EVEN THOUGH IT'S  TRANSITIONAL IT'S NOT VERY  SUPER LONG TERM IT'S LIKE 90  DAYS AT MOST BUT IT  GIVES THEM.  >> YOU KNOW A BED IN A ROOM IN  A RESTROOM THAT IT'S THEIR OWN  WHILE THEY CAN FIGURE HOW  THEY'RE GOING TO GET INCOME  HOW THEY'RE GOING SUSTAIN THAT  OTHER SERVICES THAT THEY MIGHT  NEED THAT THEY'RE NOT SURE HOW  TO HOW TO RECEIVE SNAP  BENEFITS OR MEDICAID BENEFITS  OR SOMETIMES SOCIAL SECURITY  BENEFITS DEPENDING ON THE  PERSON. SO THE TRANSITIONAL  MODEL IS MORE SO IT WRAPPED  AROUND CASE MANAGEMENT. THEY  CALL IT WHERE A CASE MANAGER  IS WRAPPING THEM IN SERVICES  SO TO GET THEM.  >> MORE STABLE LEE AND  SUSTAINABLE ALSO WHEN THERE.  >> OUT OF THAT PROGRAM AFTER A  90 DAY. STAY WILL SAY.  >> THEN THEY CAN HANDLE IT ON  THEIR OWN  ♪ >> AND NOT.  >> REVERT BACK TO  HOMELESSNESS.  >> SO THAT'S KIND OF THE OUR  EMERGENCY SHELTER THAT ONCE  WAS AND IN SARASOTA  ♪ >> COUNTY WAS THE SALVATION  ARMY IN SARASOTA CITY. THEY  CHANGED RECENTLY AS OF MAY  FIRST LAST YEAR THEIR MODEL TO  BE NOT AN EMERGENCY SHELTER,  BUT A TRANSITIONAL PROGRAM  INSTEAD SO THEY MOVED TO THAT  TYPE OF MODEL CAPABILITIES.  >> ONE LAST QUICK HOW MANY OF  THE HOMELESS IN NORTH PORT  HAVE FAMILY ARE SOME TYPE OF  COMMUNITY TIME HERE. YOU KNOW  ARREST WHAT PERCENTAGE AND  JUST SORT OF PASSING THROUGH  OUR DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF  CONNECTION.  >> THANK YOU THAT'S A GOOD  QUESTION I WANT TO SAY AT  LEAST I WOULD SAY A LOT OF  HALF I WOULD SAY WE DO HAVE  YOU KNOW AT LEAST HALF THAT  ARE. WE DID HEAR IF YOU WILL  SO THEY DON'T NECESSARILY WANT  TO LIVE ANYWHERE ELSE.  ♪ ♪ WHETHER IT'S EXPERIENCING  HOMELESSNESS OR NOT THEY DON'T  WANT TO LEAVE NORTH PORTER ARE  BE ANYWHERE ALSO AND THEN I  WANT TO SAY ABOUT HALF A LOT  OF TIMES THE UNABLE NUMBER 130  UNABLE TO REACH A LOT OF TIMES  THE UNABLE TO PORTION OF THAT  IS BECAUSE THEY WERE JUST  PASSING THROUGH. SO WE DO SEE  A DECENT AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT  HERE ONE NIGHT AND THEN  THEY'RE GONE THE A LOT OF  TIMES AND WE MAKE CONTACT WITH  THEM WE HEAR A LOT OF STORIES  I I WAS IN TALLAHASSEE AND I  DECIDED TO COME HERE, BUT I'M  GOING KEEP  >> YOU KNOW WE'RE JUST BUT SO.  >> WE DO SEE AT LEAST HALF OF  THE TIME I WOULD  >> OKAY THANK YOU I I THANK  VICE MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR THE  PRESENTATION.  >> MY QUESTION IS HOW CAN WE  HELP YOU.  ♪ >> GREAT  ♪ >> POLICE. THAT'S A GREAT VICE  HAVE THAT ANSWER TODAY. THE  PURPOSE WINDOW WITH THE  PRESENTATION OF THE PURPOSE OF  THIS WAS TO SORT OF BRING BACK  WHAT YOU ASK FOR. AND WE CAN  CONTINUE TO WORK FOLLOWING  THIS MEETING TO SEE WHAT ARE  SO REASONABLE SOLUTIONS THAT  THIS CITY COULD AND TAKE TO  IMPROVE SITUATION. OR TO THAT.  COMMISSIONER NOW.  >> YEAH I THINK MY OTHER  QUESTIONS ARE MORE RELATED TO  THE TRUST HAS TO OUT OF THE  PRESENTATIONS SO I'LL YIELD  UNTIL THAT'S COMPLETED, BUT IT  MAY CROSS OVER TO THIS WEEK.  >> JUST HAD SOME QUESTIONS  ABOUT THE TRADITION  TRADITIONAL TRANSITIONAL  HOUSING THAT IS THE SHELTER IN  SARASOTA. CITY. ONE GET THERE.  HOW THEY GET THERE. THEY DON'T  HAVE TRANSPORTATION.  >> A LOT OF IF SOMEBODY IS  THAT.  >> WE CONNECT THEM WITH WE  WORK SOCIAL SERVICES HERE WITH  THE CITY TO GET THEM.  >> PAST TRANSPORTATION UP TO  NORTH COUNTY. SO THAT THEY CAN  ENGAGE AND THAT AS FAR AS I  UNDERSTAND SOMEBODY COULD  STILL WALK INTO ALL SALVATION  ARMY SHELTER AND SAY YOU KNOW,  I'M EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS  AND I NEED HELP AND I WANT TO  STAY HERE. AND THEN ONE OF  THEIR CASE MANAGERS WOULD SIT  DOWN AND SPEAK WITH THEM AND  ASK THEM IF THEY'RE WILLING TO  PARTICIPATE IN THE  TRANSITIONAL HOUSING PROGRAM  AND THEN AS LONG AS THERE'S  NOT IF THERE'S OPEN SPOT THEN  THEY WOULD TAKE THEM ON AND  THEN THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO  STAY THERE THE NIGHT BUT THEN  THEY WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THAT  TRANSITIONAL HOUSING PROGRAM  WHICH HAS OTHER.  >> REQUIREMENTS OF THE CLIENT  OK SO WHERE IS THAT YOU SAID  THE OLD SALVATION WAY SORRY  SHUNS HER 1400 10TH STREET IN  SARASOTA IS SARASOTA'S YES  PASS FROM ABC 7 ALL RIGHT  BECAUSE MY QUESTION HAS TO DO  WITH I FELT I REALLY FIRST  CAME.  >> WHERE THIS SITUATION HOW IT  WAS WHEN I WAS WORKING WITH  BELL RINGER FOR SALVATION ARMY  AND SO THAT'S WHY HE HAD MY MY  INTO THIS THING BUT WAS JUST  A. RENTING A ROOM SOMEBODY WHO  LOSING IS LEAST SO THAT HE HAS  NOWHERE TO GO AND WHEN I CALL  I HAD GOTTEN ALL THE PLACES IN  CHARLOTTE COUNTY THAT THE  HOMELESS COALITION AND ALL  THOSE PLACE AND THAT'S WHEN I  REALIZED IT WAS NOTHING HERE  FOR HIM AND THERE WAS NOTHING  THAT WAS REALLY NO WAY FOR HIM  TO GET UP EVEN THE SARASOTA  AND THEY WERE ELECTED TO  ACTUALLY TO GO TO THAT  SHELTER. RESPECT.  >> BUT NOW YOU'RE SAYING IT  IS. IS THERE A PHONE NUMBER  NOW DO WE SOME PLACE ACTUALLY  CALL AND HERE IN THE CITY THAT  SOMEBODY WOULD TAKE A PERSON  LIKE THAT AND SAY THIS IS  HERE'S YOUR OPTIONS.  >> WE INFORMED THE CLIENTS OF  THAT THAT THAT IS THAT THEY'VE  KIND OF CHANGED THEIR HOUSING  SHELTER MODEL. AND THAT IT'S A  LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT AND IF  THEY'RE INTERESTED IN THAT  THAN FIGURE OUT WHO TO CONNECT  THEM TO THEY DO HAVE A NUMBER  I'M A NUMBER THAT YOU COULD  CALL IN SOMETHING THEY COULD  CONNECT TO FURTHER TO THAT  ACTUAL PHYSICAL TRANSITIONAL  HOUSING PROGRAM. BUT A LOT OF  TIMES WE A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T  WANT TO LEAVE THEY DON'T WANT  TO LEAVE PORT MOSTLY BECAUSE  IN MOST SITUATIONS WE FIND OUT  SAY THIS IS WHAT THEY KNOW.  >> SARASOTA IS NOT WHAT THEY  KNOW IT'S VERY FOR AND IT'S  SOMETIMES INTIMIDATING YOU  KNOW, IT'S A BIG CITY AT THAT  WE'RE NOT SO THEY THEY DON'T  WANT TO LEAVE WHAT THEY KNOW,  YEAH THEY DON'T WANT TO LEAVE  WHAT THEY KNOW EVEN THOUGH A  LOT OF TIMES THERE ARE OTHER  SERVICES UP THERE THAT THEY  MIGHT BE LOOKING FOR COULD USE  YOU KNOW SHELTER PORTION OF  IT. THEY STILL DON'T WANT TO  ENGAGE IN THAT BECAUSE THIS IS  WHERE THEY'RE MOST COMFORTABLE  SO. WE DO GET THEM THAT  INFORMATION WHEN WE ENCOUNTER  TO GIVE THEM ALL THE OPTIONS  AND THEN IF THEY SAY YOU KNOW,  YES I WANT TO GO UP THERE. AND  TRY TO GET INTO THEIR  TRANSITIONAL HOUSING PROGRAM  AND WORK WITH THEM TO SOLVE MY  HOMELESSNESS SITUATION. THEN  WE THEN THAT'S WHEN COLOR  GETTING CONTACT WITH OUR  PARTNERS NORTH PORT SOCIAL  SERVICES AND REQUEST THINGS  LIKE SKYPE US PASSES 2 TO GET  THEM WE'RE GOING TO SO TO GET  SOMETHING A SITUATION LIKE  THAT THAT WOULD HAPPEN  TOMORROW. YES, I WOULD GIVE  THEM.  >> WE WOULD CALL THE  NON-EMERGENCY POLICE NUMBER  AND THAT STARTS THE WHOLE  THING GOING IS THAT CONTACT.  >> YOU COULD YEAH OR YOU CAN  THEY CALL MY YOU KNOW I A  NUMBER AND I HAVE. I WORK SO  AS ON THE WEEKENDS TALKING  ABOUT YOU KNOW  >> YOU CAN STILL HAVE THEM  TELL AND I E-MAIL OUT OR YOU  COULD SHOOT ME AN E-MAIL THAT  WOULD BE GOOD TOO AND WE CAN  GO FROM THERE AS SOON AS  AVAILABLE ON THE CONTACT AND  JUST ONE LAST QUESTION ABOUT  SHIP HOMES OF A SINGLE-FAMILY  HOMES THAT YOU'RE TALKING  ABOUT THAT ARE SCATTERED  THROUGHOUT THE CITY. HE'S ALSO  SHIFT SO SHIP'S PROGRAM IS A  TRANSITIONAL PROGRAM THAT IS A  PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE  SARASOTA COUNTY SHERIFF'S  OFFICE CASTLE.  >> WHICH IS ANOTHER NONPROFIT  A LOCAL NONPROFIT. SO THEY  HAVE A PROGRAM HOW SEEING IN  THE UNINCORPORATED AREA  OF NORTH PORT SPRINGS AREA.  NOT IN THE CITY OF NORTH PORT  IS NOT.  >> OKAY.  >> SO THAT'S WHERE WITH SOME  TIME SO AT THAT SHELTER IN  SALVATION ARMY IN IN SARASOTA  THEY HAVE HOMELESS OUTREACH  TEAM BEDS SO A LOT OF TIMES  WHEN THEY HAVE A CLIENT IN  THOSE BEDS THAT THEY FEEL  WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR THE  TRANSITIONAL HOUSING PROGRAM  AND THEY MOVE THEM FROM THOSE  HOT BEDS IN SARASOTA TO THE  SHIP'S PROGRAM HOUSING  IN NORTH PORT THEY HAVE  ANOTHER SHIPS PROGRAM HOUSING  IN SARASOTA CITY AND THEN THEY  HAVE A SECOND ONE HERE IN PORT  IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA FOR  OK THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR AND  COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL I HAVE  ONE FOLLOW-UP QUESTION OF.  >> A MARIST QUESTIONS MAY  TURNS OUT ALL RIGHT. YEAH,  SURE. MAYOR MENTIONED WE DO  SOMETIMES MAKE REFERRALS UP TO  THE TRANSITIONAL HOUSING IN  THE CITY OF SARASOTA.  >> HOW OFTEN ARE WE TURNED  AWAY BECAUSE THERE ARE NO BEDS  AVAILABLE.  >> THERE'S OFTEN A WAIT LIST.  >> SO THERE'S OFTEN I DON'T  KNOW I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN  GIVE YOU A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE  BUT YOU KNOW THERE ISN'T ANY  AVAILABILITY AS THEY DO ONLY  HAVE SO MUCH CAPACITY.  >> THANK YOU FOR WHAT IS THAT  CAPACITY.  >> SO WE SPEAKING ABOUT THE  TRANSITIONAL HOUSING AND  SERVICES FOR SALVATION ARMY  THINK THEY CAN LAST I HEARD IT  MIGHT HAVE BEEN A MAX OF OR  CLIENTS THEY CAN HAVE ONCE.  >> THOSE THE HALF AND IT'S.  >> NOW THE HABITS ARE  SEPARATE. AND THE HOT BEDS ARE  SARASOTA SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAS  20 HOT BEDS. AND THE SARASOTA  POLICE DEPARTMENT SPD HAS 10.  SO THOSE 2 TEAMS COLLECT THAT  WE HAVE 30 BETS. WELL CAN SO  HOW MANY ARE SHERIFF PREMIER  SARASOTA'S 2020 OR SHERIFFS.  >> 10 ARE  >> SARASOTA  >> BUT SOMETIMES IT KIND GOING  THAT I TALKED ABOUT TRYING TO  GET HAPPENS DOWN HERE TO HELP  OUR CITIZENS. SO I THINK  THAT'S A FUTURE CONVERSATION  THAT WE COULD ADD TO THE LIST  THE CITY MANAGER. A LITTLE BIT  TOO. MY SPECIFIC QUESTION IS  HAD TO DO WITH. TRANSITIONAL  HOUSING THAT THAT 30  TRANSITIONAL UNIT SALVATION  SALVATION ARMY FUNDING THAT A  100% OR IS THAT PART OF  SARASOTA COUNTY GIVING THEM  SOME FINANCES. DOES THAT LOOK.  >> I BELIEVE YOU KNOW, I'M NOT  100% CERTAIN ON THE FUN BEING  PART OF IT BUT I BELIEVE IT IS  A HYBRID TYPE OF MODEL WHERE  SALVATION ARMY FUNDS, A  PORTION OF IT, I'M SURE THEY  COUNTY FUNDS POSSIBLY FEDERAL  FUNDS.  >> THAT HELPS  >> KEEP THE OPERATION GOING.  >> AT THAT PROBABLY NEEDS TO  BE ADDED TO THE LIST FUTURE  DISCUSSION YOU KNOW. KNOW  SALVATION ARMY HAD PLANS FOR  THEIR PROPERTY, BUT TOOK THOSE  PLANS AND SHUT BUT FOR YOU  KNOW IT IF THE COUNTY IS  HELPING FUND WE WE REALLY NEED  TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOT  JUST ONE AREA OF THE COUNTY,  BUT THE I COUNTY WHICH WE ARE  ARE I JUST SO I I AM FINISHED  AN I I DO HAVE QUESTIONS THE  TRESPASSING PART CITY MANAGER.  >> THE MISSION IN THIS SAME  CONVERSATION. WELL, THE CITY  MANAGER REPORT IT STATES THAT  WE WERE TO CONTACT THE  SARASOTA HOUSING AUTHORITY FOR  THE PROGRAM GETTING CLOSE HERE  IF YOU CAN PROBABLY GIVE US AN  UPDATE ON WHAT SHE SPOKE OUT.  MOST RECENTLY REGARDING  PROGRAM. THANK YOU.  >> TENSE.  >> WANT FOR THE  >> SO WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT  DISCUSSION OF THE HOMES ARE  PROGRAM PROBABLY BACK IN LIKE  2022, I BELIEVE.  >> SO RECENTLY CITY MANAGER  GAVE DIRECTION TO REACH OUT TO  THE HOUSING AUTHORITY AND KIND  OF GET AN UPDATE ON THE  PROGRAM AS WELL AS LIKE ANY  TRANSITIONAL, HOUSING  SOLUTIONS SPECIFICALLY TO  PORT. SO I THIS MONTH I  REACHED OUT TO ROUTE SHOWERS  AND SHE IS THE SHE WAS THE  CLIENT CORDINATOR FOR THE HOME  SHARE PROGRAM AND SHE INFORMED  ME THAT THE HOME SHARE WAS  TERMINATED.  >> SHOPPING BACK JUNE OF  ACTUALLY LAST YEAR AND THE  REASON IT WAS A TERMINATED WAS  BECAUSE THERE WAS FEDERAL  CASE. SHARE PROGRAM. TURNS OUT  TO  >> THE COURT SIDED WHAT WAS  SAID ME, I'M SORRY, I'M  LOOKING AT A NUMBER HERE. SO  IT WAS A DISPUTE BETWEEN A  SARASOTA HOMEOWNER AND THE  FLORIDA SUPREME COURT  UNANIMOUSLY SIDED WITH  SARASOTA PROPERTY APPRAISER  BILL FOR SO THAT ELIMINATING  PEOPLE THAT WANT TO RENT OUT  THEIR HOMES NOT TO BE ABLE TO  APPLY FOR THE HOMESTEAD  EXEMPTION.  >> SO THEY DID NOT SEE IT  BEING PROOF AND THEY REMOVED  SO. IT'S UNFORTUNATE, BUT YOU  KNOW I DOUBT THAT ANYBODY IS  GOING TO WANT TO GIVE UP THEIR  EXEMPTION AROUND RENT OUT ROOM  OF THEIR HOME. YOU'RE WELCOME.  OK THANK YOU. YES, THANK YOU  AND AND THAT.  >> I REMEMBER THAT  CONVERSATION WE HAD TIME ABOUT  ABOUT THAT COMMISSIONER  MCDOWELL SHAKE YOUR HEAD OK SO  WHERE ARE WE HERE.  >> I DON'T ANY OTHER  QUESTIONS. WE WANT TO GO OVER  THIS TRESPASSING COMMISSIONER  MCDOWELL SAY WANT TO ASK HIM  QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS. CAN DO  THE PRESENTATION. YEAH.  >> OK I'M GOING BACK ON THE  POWER POINT THE QUESTION WAS  AS FAR AS JUST FOLLOWING UP ON  WHERE WE ARE WITH THE  TRESPASSES TRESPASS WARNINGS  ON PUBLIC WE CONSIDER THE CITY  FACILITIES OTHER PUBLIC  PROPERTY AND PUBLIC ACCESS  EASEMENTS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY  WHEN WE DO THESE ENFORCEMENTS  OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE TO FOLLOW  THE LAWS FOR VERBAL WARNINGS  FIRST. BRITAIN WARNINGS ARE  ISSUED AFTER AND THEN IF THEY  VIOLATE THAT WRITTEN MORNING  BEEN AN ARREST IS MADE. ONES  THAT ARREST IS MADE AND APPEAL  HAS TO BE MADE IN WRITING TO  THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WITHIN  10 DAYS OF THE ISSUANCE. A  HEARING WILL BE SCHEDULE AND  THEN DEPENDING ON THE OUTCOME  IT WILL EITHER BE RESCINDED OR  UPHELD DURING THAT TIME FRAME  OF THE ISSUE WINDS TO THE  ACTUAL HEARING DATE TRESPASS  WARNING DOES STAY IN EFFECT.  PART OF THE TRESPASSING  CONSIDERS THEIR STORAGE OF AND  REMOVAL OF PERSONAL PROPERTY  THAT IS LEFT ON PUBLIC  PROPERTIES. SO SOME OF THE  DEFINITIONS OF THE CUSTODIAN  OF THE PUBLIC PROPERTY,  REASONABLE CHARGES. AND STORER  SAYS STUART I'M NOT MORE THAN  24 CONTINUES HOURS ARE YOU  ALLOWED TO KEEP PERSONAL  PROPERTY ON THE PROP PUBLIC  PROPERTY. SO IF YOU'RE OUT  THERE AND YOU HAVE YOUR  PROPERTY WE TELL YOU YOU'VE  GOT 24 HOURS THAT YOU HAVE TO  HAVE IT. IT CANNOT BE THERE,  I'M NOT PRIVATE PARTY WITHOUT  THE AUTHORIZATION OF THE  PROPERTY OWNER. SO IF WE GO  OUT TO THESE SITES THAT WE SAY  ARE PRIVATELY OWNED AND THEY  HAVE THEIR SELF AND THERE  WE'VE THAT'S WHERE WE GET THE  TRESPASS AFFIDAVIT FROM THE  ACTUAL PROPERTY OWNER. SO THAT  WE CAN ENFORCE THIS. THE  REMOVAL OF THE PROPERTY. ITS  ATTENDANT AND THEY'RE THERE  WHEN WE GO THERE WE HAVE TO  GIVE THEM 24 HOURS TO REMOVE.  WE FIND PROPERTY THAT IS  UNATTENDED. WE HAVE TO LABEL  IT AND THEN WE HAVE 48 HOURS.  BEFORE WE CAN REMOVE IT  OURSELVES AFTER IT'S BEEN  IDENTIFIED IN TACT. PROPERTY  THAT IS A THREAT TO HEALTH AND  SAFETY OR WELFARE WE CAN  REMOVE IMMEDIATE LEAVE WE FIND  THAT IT'S SOMETHING WHERE IT  COULD BE CONTAMINATING THE  GROUND ARE CONTAMINATING WATER  WAY DEPENDING ON ITS LOCATION  TO IT'S AT. SO 2021, WE HAVE  HAD A 102 TRESPASSES ON PUBLIC  PROPERTY. WE'VE HAD 14  APPEALS. 7 OF THEM HAVE BEEN  OVERTURNED AND SOME OF THEM  HAVE BEEN UPHELD. JUST LIKE I  SAID BEFORE THESE NUMBERS ARE  NOT INCLUSIVE TO JUST  INDIVIDUAL INDIVIDUALS  EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS  INCLUDES ALL TRESPASSES ON  PUBLIC PROPERTY SINCE 2021.  AND MOVE FORWARD SOME OF OUR  INITIATIVES THAT WE HAVE BEEN  DISCUSSING IS OBVIOUSLY  WORKING WITH SOCIAL SERVICES  ON THE BUS PASSES TO HAVE MORE  OF THEM. FOR INDIVIDUALS  WANTING TO RELOCATE. OUTREACH  WITH NONPROFITS TO ASSIST WITH  PLACEMENT OF INDIVIDUALS  EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS  CONTINUED PARTNERSHIP WITH THE  HOMELESS, THE HOME'S ROOF THAT  WE HAVE ARE LUNCHEONS AND  RESOURCE OUT A LOT OF AND HAVE  GOOD CONVERSATIONS TO ASSIST  THE CITIZENS. FUTURE  DEVELOPMENT OF A SHORT-TERM  TRANSITIONAL HOUSING. A  POTENTIAL THAT WE'VE BEEN  TRYING TO WORK WITH BUT  SALVATION ARMY AND CONTINUED  ENFORCEMENT OF A CITY CODE  VIOLATIONS IN PARKS AND  PRIVATE PROPERTY ALONG 41 ON  THE ONSET BEFORE IT BECOMES  AND ACTUAL ISSUE THAT WE HAVE  TO DEAL WITH AND SEE ON A  REGULAR BASIS.  >> AND THAT IS  >> OKAY VICE MAYOR.  >> YEAH NOT SO MUCH A QUESTION  SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSING.  TRESPASSING THIS MUCH AS I  KNOW THE. FLORIDA HOUSE PASSED  A BILL REGARDING.  >> AND HOMELESS SLEEPING ON  PUBLIC PROPERTY HOUSE. I  BELIEVE THIS TAKING UP A  SIMILAR BILL MORNING. THE  GOVERNOR SEEMED SUPPORTIVE OF  THAT.  >> I WASN'T GOING AFFECT US.  ♪ >> THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION  VICE MAYOR TODAY WE HAVE WITH  US JOE CALLS AT 3.48 CONNELLY  SHAMSIE PULLS BACK. JOE WAS  WORKED WITH THE CITY FOR  SEVERAL YEARS AND ADVISING ON  ISSUES RELATED TO PERSONS  EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS AND  HE HAS DEVELOPED A NATIONAL  PRESENCE AND EXPERTISE ON THAT  TOPIC AND HE ALSO THE CITY  WHEN WE DEVELOPED THE TRESPASS  REGULATIONS AND THEN PRIVATE  PROPERTY  ♪ REGULATIONS SO ADDRESS THAT  QUESTION FOR YOU.  >> FOR THE INTRODUCTION BUT  I'M I'M HERE FOR THE CITY  OF NORTH PORT TODAY AND AS YOU  MENTIONED THAT IS A VERY  POTENTIALLY IMPACTFUL BILL  THAT'S BEFORE LEGISLATURE SO I  SO IT IS AS AMBER WOULD AGREE  I THINK WE SPOKE  >> THIS MEETING THAT YOU KNOW.  WE REALLY DO NEED TO SEE WHAT  THE FINAL VERSION OF THE OF  THE BILL AS THAT OF COURSE IF  IT PASSES A LOT OF CHANGES CAN  BE MADE AT THE LAST MINUTE ARE  OBVIOUSLY THROUGHOUT THE  PROCESS.  >> IT WILL ON ITS FACE  POTENTIALLY VERY IMPACTFUL  DOES SEEK REGULATE. ON PUBLIC  SPACES EXCLUSIVELY. PROVIDE.  REALLY YOU KNOW. FOR TO SAY  TOO MUCH BECAUSE WE'LL SEE  WHAT THE FINAL VERSION IS BUT  BUT IT REALLY IS REGULATING  CITIES AND COUNTIES. AND THAT  DOES SEEM TO BE SOMEWHAT  TARGETED AT PREVENTING. I'M  KIND OF THE SANCTUARY CITY  COUNCIL THAT WERE SEEN OUT  WEST AND FROM CITIES JUST  ALLOWING. UNREGULATED CAPPING  SO AT THE 6 TO REGULATE HOW  CITIZENS COMPANIES ARE DOING  OUT. AND YOU CAN CAMPING OR  LODGING ACTIVITIES TO A  CERTAIN LOCATION THAT THERE  ARE SANITATION AND OTHER  HEALTH AND SAFETY STANDARDS IN  PLACE FOR. NOT NECESSARILY A.  SHELTER ADDITIONAL SHELTER RUN  BY A NONPROFIT, BUT IT CAN BE  JUST OPEN SPACE DESIGNATED  FOR. THAT SORT OF CAPPING OR  LOGIC. I HOPE THAT ANSWERS  YOUR QUESTION SORT I  ULTIMATELY DEPENDING ON THIS  BILL SHAKES OUT IN ITS FINAL  VERSION IT'S GOING CREATE.  >> AND OBLIGATION ON THE PART  OF MUNICIPALITIES AND COUNTIES  TO ADDRESS THIS PROBLEM IT'S  GOING TO COST MONEY.  >> AND AND EFFORT TO FIND A  SOLUTION IN SOME WAY SHAPE OR  FORM HOUSE THESE FOLKS.  >> FORCE THAT HOUSING. IF IN  FACT A WALK. COMES ACROSS AND  ENDS UP BEING YOU KNOW HOPE  YOU CAN SLEEP ON PUBLIC  PROPERTY. I MEAN IF THAT'S THE  CASE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE  ISSUES AND ENFORCEMENT WHERE  PEOPLE MOVE PUBLIC PROPERTY TO  PRIVATE PROPERTY OF WHICH WE  HAVE QUITE A BIT OUT AT YOU  KNOW THE OWNERS WE'VE REMOTELY  ANYWAY IT OPENS UP JUST A  WHOLE CAN OF WORMS. YOU KNOW  WE'RE GOING TO BE CHALLENGED  WITH. AS WE MOVE FORWARD I  THINK THAT'S A VALID YOU KNOW  IT.  >> THAT PART OF THE.  >> PROCESS IF THIS BILL PASSES  THAT WILL HELP IN A LOCAL  LEVEL STARTS WITH THE COUNTY.  SHE READ TALKS LIKE THE COUNTY  MAY IMPLEMENT AND THEN THE  FOLLOWING IT DOESN'T SEEM  POWER THE CITY TO DO THAT  EMPOWERS THE COUNTY AND THE  COUNTY WORKS WITH THE  INDIVIDUAL CITIES ON CERTAIN  COMPONENTS OF SO YOU KNOW WE  HAVE TO TALK TO THE COUNTY AND  SEE WHAT THEIR POSITION WAS  BUT YOU'RE RIGHT IT DOESN'T  REGULATE PUBLIC PROPERTY AND  BASICALLY IS. PROHIBITING. AND  THIS CASE A CITY FROM. A  NUMBER OF THINGS INCLUDING  OTHERWISE ALLOWING. CAMPING  AND ITS PUBLIC SPACES UNLESS  IT'S IN DESIGNATED KIND OF  SAINTS OWNER.  >> IT PASSES VICE MAYOR I  THINK IT WILL BE INTERESTING  TO SEE IF AND HOW THAT LAW  IT'S CHALLENGE AND YOU KNOW  HOW IT RESULT IN A COURTROOM  THAT CONTRADICTS YOU HURT  REFERENCE EARLIER TO ANOTHER  CIRCUIT COURT THAT DOES NOT  CONTROL BUT THAT MOST OF THESE  DEFENDANTS BEST PRACTICE TO  COMPLY WITH. AND SO GOING UP  TO THE COURT SYSTEM THE NEXT  FEW YEARS IF IT IT PASSES IT  COULD BE AN INTERESTING WATCH.  >> AND AND ONE OF THE THING TO  THE CITY ATTORNEY'S POINT IS  THERE IS A CASE THAT THE  SUPREME COURT HAS FINALLY  ACCEPTED JURISDICTION, IT'S  CALLED THE GRANTS PASS CASE  FOR MORGAN. THE 9TH CIRCUIT.  AND REPORT IS FINALLY  REVIEWING THIS BODY OF CASE  LAW THAT WE'RE ALL TALKING  ABOUT HERE TODAY A LOT OF  WHICH IS FROM THE NIGHT  FEDERAL CIRCUIT OUT WEST. AND  IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE  WHAT THIS REPORT DOES IN THAT  CASE, BUT BECAUSE IT COULD  HEAVILY IMPACT YOUR LOCAL  OPERATIONS HERE AND AND A  COUPLE DIFFERENT SO LET'S GET  YOU VERY CRITICAL CASE. ALL  QUESTION. COMMISSIONER  MCDOWELL.  >> THANK YOU VICE-MAYOR FOR  BRINGING THAT UP THAT WAS ONE  OF QUESTIONS AND TO PIGGYBACK  OFF OF THE LATEST. RENDITION  OF THE DOUBT SAYS THAT COUNTY  OR MUNICIPALITY MAY NOT  AUTHORIZED. ALLOW ANY PERSON  TO REGULARLY ENGAGE IN PUBLIC  CAMPING OR SLEEPING IN THE  PUBLIC PROPERTY HOW WOULD WE  EVEN BEGIN TO ENFORCE THIS,  YOU KNOW WE WE MAY NOT PERMIT  IT. SO WHAT WE DO ON THE  SURFACE IT THIS IS THE WHAT  SEEMS TO BE MOVING THROUGH  MUCH QUICKER BECAUSE THE  STAGE. THE SENATE AND THE  HOUSE KIND OF THE BILLS ARE  KIND OF IDENTICAL SO THAT  TELLS ME THAT THIS IS WHAT'S  GOING TO BE GOING THROUGH FOR  VOTE. HOW WOULD WE EVEN BEGIN  TO ADDRESS SOMETHING.  >> HERE'S WHAT REALLY THINK  THAT'S PREMATURE RIGHT NOW TO.  ACTUALLY DIVE INTO THAT  BECAUSE UNTIL WE ACTUALLY KNOW  WHAT THAT FINAL BILL IS. WHAT  CHANGES ARE GOING IT'S THERE'S  A LOT OF WHAT THIS OUT THERE  AND THE BILL COULD ACTUALLY  SPECIFICALLY TELL US. WE HAVE  TO DO WHAT WE CAN DO SO FOR ME  TO SAY HERE IN SUGGESTIONS OUT  THERE NOT KNOWING WHAT THE  LEGISLATOR, DIRECT US TO THE  PREMATURE TO  >> RESPECT THAT THANK BUT ONCE  WE DO YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS IF  THIS BILL PASSES AN ITERATION  OF THESE BILLS PASS WE WILL  WORK WITH THE POLICE  DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT  THE CITY HAS A PLAN FOR  IMPLEMENTATION OF CONSISTENT  WITH A WALL. YEAH.  >> OCTOBER FIRST WILL BE HERE  IN MY OTHER QUESTION HAD TO DO  WITH THE STRESS A NOTED SERVED  THINGS THAT YOU GUYS ISSUED.  FIRST HOW LONG IS A  TRESPASSING MORE GOOD ONE YEAR  ONE YEAR. IT'S A WARRANT OR  WARNING WARNING WARNING  AGAINST YES BECAUSE WANT JUST  MAKE SURE I HEARD INTO  SOMETHING DIFFERENT CORRECT.  AND IF SO EXPLAIN THE  DIFFERENT TO TRESPASS WARNING  IS IS NOT A CRIME. IT IS A  WARNING THAT YOU'RE VIOLATING.  >> WHAT. IF YOU DO VIOLATE IT,  AND YOU WILL BE ARRESTED IF WE  DON'T FIND YOU A WARRANT FOR  YOUR ARREST WILL BE WHAT YOU  SAID OR I JUST WANT TO MAKE  SURE RECORD I APPRECIATE THAT  YOU ISSUE A WARNING CORRECT.  THAT'S GOOD FOR ONE YEAR AND  IF.  >> THE OFFENDER.  >> COMES BACK IN THAT YEAR  THEN IT IS A WARRANT IF WE'RE  ON SITE WE WILL ARREST HIM ON  SITE IF WE SHOW UP WE HAVE  EVIDENCE THAT PROVED THAT HE  WAS THERE AND VIOLATED THAT  WARNING AND WE CAN'T FIND HIM  THEN WE WILL ISSUE A WARRANT  FOR HIS ARREST. AND THEN THAT  GOES THROUGH THE CRIMINAL  SYSTEM. YES.  >> IN YOUR STATISTICS  REGARDING THESE WARNINGS WARN  THINK YOU ISSUED A 102.  >> MANY OF THOSE WERE.  EVERYTHING IS PUBLIC BUILDINGS  PARKS AND RIGHT OF WHAT WERE  THOSE BREAKDOWNS BECAUSE. I  KNOW THAT THE CITY ISSUES  WARNINGS FOR TRESPASSING LIKE  YOU'RE MORGAN CENTER IS  ANOTHER VERY POPULAR FOR SO  HOW MANY OF THESE 102 WARNINGS  THAT WERE ISSUED. CITY  BUILDINGS VERSUS RIGHT OF WAYS  AND  >> DON'T HAVE THAT ANSWER NOW  BUT I CAN GET FOR YOU BUT  MAJORITY OF THEM ARE GOING TO  BE THE CITY BUILDING CITY  PARKS THAT THAT YOU'RE  REFERRING TO BETWEEN CITY HALL  THE MORGAN  >> I WILL GET YOU THE  BREAKDOWN AND WOULD APPRECIATE  THAT BECAUSE I THINK IT PAINTS  A DIFFERENT PICTURE.  >> COMPARED TO YOU KNOW WHEN  YOU THINK THIS CONVERSATION  ISSUING A WARNING. DISCUSSING  CAMPING ON PUBLIC PROPERTY  KIND OF THING. SO I WOULD  REALLY BE INTERESTED IN SEEING  THAT BREAKDOWN. THANK YOU I  WILL SAY MOST OF THOSE 102  HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH  HOMELESS. THAT'S WHY THE  CAPTAIN AT THE ONE HAS NOTHING  TO DO WITH  >> OKAY, AND I DEFINITELY  WOULD BE INTERESTED IN SEEING  WHAT BREAKDOWN AS THANK YOU. I  THINK IT OTHER BIG QUESTION I  THINK MAYBE IT'S GOING TO BE A  BIGGER CONVERSATION IS WHERE  IS THE COUNTY AND HELPING US  WITH ISSUES.  >> I. IT REALLY WOULD BE  INTERESTED IN KNOWING HOW  THAT'S ALL WORKING OUT AND  PLAYING OUT. WHAT WHAT ISSUES  YOU'RE REFERRING LIKE THE  HOMELESSNESS AND THE. CAMPING  PUBLIC PROPERTY AND. I KNOW  THE FOCUS IS CITY OF SARASOTA  BECAUSE THE HAS A DIFFERENT.  ATMOSPHERE AND THE CITY OF  PORT.  >> SO IT WHEN YOU REFER TO THE  COUNTY WHERE WE REFERRED TO IT  HELPED HE OR THE COUNTY  SHERIFF'S COUNTY SHERIFF'S  OFFICE THIS THAT COUNTY.  >> GOVERNMENT TO THE COUNTY  SERVICES IT JUST IN GENERAL  WHERE IS THE COUNTY. IN  ASSISTING THE CITY OF NORTH  PORT BECAUSE IT.  >> FROM MY PERSPECTIVE AND  IT'S ONLY MY OPINION AND MY  PERSPECTIVE WE'RE WE'RE.  >> TRYING TO SOLVE A PROBLEM  OURSELVES. BUT HOWEVER THAT  NEEDED.  >> IS RELYING ON OUR  POPULATION NUMBERS $4 AND AND  RESOURCES AND SERVICES WE  REALLY AREN'T. NOT APPEARING.  WE'RE GETTING IT. SO AGAIN  THAT'S PROBABLY PART OF THAT  BIGGER CONVERSATION WE'RE  GOING TO HAVE IT ANOTHER TIME.  >> REALLY TO THE QUESTION WE  WOULD NEED TO DO A MORE.  INVESTIGATION TO SEE EXACTLY  WHERE ALL OF THEIR PIECES  ALONG WITH PIECES. I DO  BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE SOME  GAPS THERE BUT RIGHT NOW  TODAY, WE'RE FOCUSING ON OUR  SIDE OF IT I THINK THAT'S WHAT  WE NEED TO BRING BACK TO YOU  SO THAT WE DO NOT MISREPRESENT  WHAT THE COUNTY IS PROVIDING  IN CASE THEY ARE DOING  SOMETHING IT IS NOT GOING TO  BE MENTIONED IN THAT ANSWER  THAT WE BRING YOU BACK A VERY  COMPREHENSIVE ANSWERS BUT  THEY'RE DOING WHAT WE'RE DOING  AND WHERE THIS WEEK AT SWAP OR  >> OKAY.  >> MUCH LARGER CONVERSATION  SAYING WE HAVE GREAT WORKING  RELATIONSHIP WITH THE COUNTY  SHERIFF AND THEY'RE TEAM. THEY  WERE QUARANTINED BUT YOU KNOW  WE HAVE DIFFERENT GEOGRAPHICAL  THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR.  >> WHATEVER THE LAW  ENFORCEMENT SLIVER TO THIS  ISSUE A PROBLEM THAT THE  NATION'S DEALING WITH VERY  MINUTE. SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT  WILL FOCUS COMEBACK BUT YOU  KNOW THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY.  POLICE PROBLEM LAW A LOT OF  THINGS HAVE IT SO ARE YOU KNOW  IT'S A IT'S A SLIPPERY SLOPE  FOR A FINE LINE. JUST WITH  THAT BEING SAID THAT THIS HAVE  TO BE A DEEPER DISCUSSION, BUT  REALLY IT'S. OUR  RESPONSIBILITY IS VERY LITTLE  WHEN IT COMES US.  >> I DEFINITELY A SOCIETAL  PROBLEM. OKAY, I'M I SPARE.  >> WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY A  SITE. YOU KNOW EXTENDED NATION  FOR THE WORK, YOU FOLKS DO IN  THIS AREA BECAUSE THIS IS A  CHALLENGE. IT IS DIFFICULT AS  YOU SAY THAT IF THE POLICE  ASPECT OF IT IS A SLIVER IT IS  A SOCIAL ISSUE AND AGAIN I  LOOK FORWARD TO FOLKS.  BRINGING BACK TO HOW WE MAY AS  A COMMISSION GIVE HELP. IN  THIS IN THIS IN IN IN IN  ADDRESSING THIS IN IN LIGHT OF  YOU KNOW SO MANY OF CHALLENGES  NOT ONLY THE SOCIAL  CHALLENGES, BUT PROBABLY THE  LEGISLATIVE CHALLENGES THAT  ARE GOING TO BE COMING AT US  SO AGAIN THANK YOU ALL FOR FOR  THE HARD WORK YOU DO IN THIS  AREA BECAUSE YOU KNOW THESE  ARE HUMAN BEINGS. ARE PEOPLE  NEED HELP AND. IT'S NOT EASY  ISSUE TO DEAL WITH. OR ONE  THAT IT'S EASY SOLUTIONS SO  THANK YOU.  >> YES, I JUST WANT TO ECHO  LOT OFF OF THAT I'M SO HAPPY  THAT WE HAVE DEPARTMENT NOW  THAT WE HAVE A WAY THAT WE CAN  ADDRESS THE HOMELESSNESS  PROBLEM AN ISSUE. I MYSELF  HAVE HAD. MENTION ONE WITH  WITH THE BELL RINGER BUT  TAKING CARE OF THE TREE WALK  ON 41 OF BUSY BOTH THERE AND  THERE WAS. A MAN CHARLIE  ALWAYS WAS THERE I THINK YOU  ARE THE OFFICER, I'M SORRY,  NUMBER YOUR NAME IN THE BACK  THAT CAME OUT AS I WENT THERE  WANTS TO DO SOME TREE WORK AND  THERE WAS A MATTRESS AND WAS A  SHELF AND HE HAD FOOD APPARENT  CITY MANAGER ON THE RECALL I  CALLED ON AND I SAID I DON'T  KNOW ALL AND I THINK YOU KNOW  THE OFFICER THAT CAME OUT AND  YOU ARE VERY KIND AND  COMPASSIONATE TO HIM AND GOT  THE HE WAS ALWAYS THERE. AND  UNFORTUNATELY YESTERDAY WHEN I  WENT COUPLE OF OTHER. GUYS IN  THERE STRIKE UP CONVERSATIONS  WITH THEM THAT THE FIGHT  WHAT'S GOING ON, BUT HE AND 4  AND FOR ME THAT CHARLIE. HE  WAS THE ONE THAT WAS KILLED IN  >> ACCIDENT AT LOWE'S AND 41  THAT WITH THE BICYCLISTS CROSS  THE ROAD AND AND AND I DIDN'T  KNOW THAT SO.  >> WAS SAD TO HEAR THAT, YEAH  NEED TO BE COMPASSIONATE UM  IT'S NOT IT'S NOT A LIFESTYLE  THAT ANYONE WANTS TO  DEFINE THEMSELVES.  >> AND SO. WE NEED TO WALK  THAT FINE LINE IS THAT AS THE  POLICE CHIEF SAID. BUT AT THE  SAME TIME WE HAVE TO BALANCE  THAT WITH THE NEEDS OF OF ALL  OF OUR RESIDENTS. SO THANK YOU  FOR WHAT YOU DO AND AND AGAIN  JUST BEEN ALL THANK YOU. YEAH.  BECAUSE WE DO WE NEED KIND  COMPASSIONATE PEOPLE,  ESPECIALLY THIS SO THANK YOU.  I'M NOT SAYING ANYTHING ELSE  SO YES WITH THAT BEING SAID  MA'AM I WANT KNOW THAT TODAY'S  JUDGMENT LATER THAT HAPPY  BIRTHDAY, THANK YOU.  >> IT'S.  >> IS THAT IS THAT YES MANAGER  DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT  ON THAT.  >> ALL RIGHT SO WE'RE GOING TO  MOVE TO ITEM B 24 DASH 0, 3,  2, 2, PRESENTATION REGARDING  BRAND CITY BRAND HISTORY AND  RE-BRANDING PROCESS.  >> ANY MANAGER THIS IS YOUR  ITEM. THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR.  >> TIMES BASE AND CARL ARE  THAT COMING DOWN WITH THE TAKE  IT I WANT TO BETTER.  >> WE'RE EXCITED TALKING TODAY  ABOUT THE BROTHER OUR TEAM HAS  DONE A GREAT AMOUNT OF  RESEARCH ON SOME OF THE PAST  SESSIONS THAT HAVE ARE  BRANDING OUR VISUAL IDENTITY  HERE TO STAY. WE'RE ALSO GOING  TO BE UPDATING YOU ON A  PATHWAY THAT WE ARE GOING TO  EXPLORING NEXT YEAR SO PRESENT  TUESDAY WILL BE LAURA ANSEL  OUR MANAGER. WE ALSO HAVE LED  CASTRO OUR BRAND DESIGN  SPECIALIST HERE IN THE AT THE  END OF THE PRESENTATION WILL  BE ABLE TO ANSWER ANY  QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE SO  THAT I WILL TURN UP THE MARK.  MORNING.  ♪ >> FOR THE RECORD LOW AND  ARCANE ENGAGEMENT SO AS JASON  SURE SAY I'D LIKE TO GO OVER  WITH YOU KIND OF WHAT A BRAND  IS IN TOUCH ON THAT BRIEFLY  JUST SO WE'RE ALL SPEAKING THE  SAME LANGUAGE AND THEN HOW WE  GOT TO WHERE WE'RE AT  CURRENTLY WITH OUR CURRENT  BRANDON LOOK AND THEN ALSO OUR  RECOMMENDATION FOR MOVING  FORWARD SO. AS WE GO THROUGH  YOU KNOW A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE  MIGHT HAVE A MISPERCEPTION  ABOUT WHAT BRAND IS AND  SOMETIMES THEY MIGHT THINK  IT'S JUST A LOGO TAGLINE MAYBE  IT'S THE WEBSITE, HOW VEHICLE  WRAPS AND IT IS THOSE THINGS  BUT IT IS ALSO YOUR BRAND  STRATEGY AND WHAT MAKES YOU  WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE  REST OF YOUR COMPETITORS, SOME  OF THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES IN  THE AREA. SO THIS DEFINITION  COMES FROM MISTER LITERALLY  WROTE THE BOOK ON CITY  BRANDING IN PLACE BRANDING AND  IT'S HOW ARE IT CAN HELP US AS  A COMMUNITY STAND OUT FROM  OTHERS, IT GENERATES A SENSE  OF BELONGING. CONTRIBUTING TO  GREATER SOCIAL COHESION  STABILITY AND RETENTION OF  TALENT. IN STRONG BRAND A  STRONG CITY BROWN WILL HELP US  ENHANCE CIVIC PRIDE STIMULATE  OUR ECONOMIC GROWTH  ESTABLISHED A POSITIVE  REPUTATION HELP US COMPETE AND  ATTRACT INVESTMENT PEOPLE  WORKING CAPITAL. HOW DID WE  GET TO WHERE OUR CURRENT BRAND  ISN'T CONSERVATIVE YEARS WE'VE  A LOT OF EXTENSIVE RESEARCH WE  HAVE A BEAUTIFUL BINDER I'M  HAPPY TO SHARE ANY IT TO THE  CBO BINDER AND ALL THE  STUDIES. THIS WE STARTED IN  2008 AND THIS WAS CITY  CONTRACTED WITH ORGANIZATION  OF THUNDER COME NORTHSTAR  DESTINATION STRATEGIES AND  THEY KICKED OFF WITH IN MARKET  STUDY THAT WAS CONDUCTED FROM  SEPTEMBER 22ND TO THE 25TH OF  THAT YEAR AND THAT WAS SOME  EXTENSIVE RESEARCH WITH  PRESIDENT'S LEADERSHIP AT THE  TIME. EMPLOYEES AND STAFF AND  THE PURPOSE OF THAT STUDY WAS  TO START AND UNDERSTANDING OF  THE PERCEPTIONS AND ATTITUDES  OF NORTH PORT RESIDENTS AND  STAKEHOLDERS OVER THE NEXT 2  YEARS THEY CONDUCTED EXTENSIVE  RESEARCH AND YOU'LL SEE TO THE  RIGHT. BUT THERE'S A LONG LIST  OF ALL THE SURVEYS AND THE  STUDIES AND THE AWARENESS THAT  IS ALL OF THE RESEARCH THAT  WAS CONDUCTED THAT TIME PERIOD  IN ORDER TO DEVELOP OUR BRAND  STRATEGY. THEY PRESENTED THE  FINAL REPORT IN 2010. AND THAT  INCLUDED THE COMMUNITY'S  BRANDON PRINT NOW THAT IS A  COMPREHENSIVE ANALYSIS OF OUR  STRATEGIC BRAND POSITION AND  THOSE ARE THE TIMELINES THAT  WE HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING EVER  SINCE. SO THAT TIME OVER THE  SINCE 2012 UNTIL THE CURRENT.  WE'VE HAD IT WAS ORIGINALLY A  STRATEGIC WITHIN OVERALL  STRATEGIC PLAN IT WAS REMOVED  IN 2012. AS BEING ONE OF THE  MAIN GOALS. WE'VE ALSO HAD AN  INTERIM BRAND COMMITTEE THAT  MET A FEW TIMES IN THOSE EARLY  YEARS RIGHT AFTER THE LOCAL  WAS DEVELOPED ALTHOUGH THE  BRAND AND OUR LOGO WHEN OUR  CAR LOOK HAS BEEN DISCUSSED OR  BROUGHT MENTIONED OVER THE  PAST 11 YEARS, BEEN NO FORMAL  GIVEN SINCE THAT TIME. KIND OF  HISTORY. SOME OF THE PRIMARY  GOALS FOR THAT ORIGINAL BRAND  FRIEND AND I THOUGHT THESE  WERE INTERESTING SO THIS CAME  FROM 2010 WAS TO INCREASE OUR  BRAND AWARENESS IN THE LOCAL  NATIONAL AND GLOBAL  MARKETPLACE TO SOLIDIFY AND  ELEVATE THE IMAGE OF THE  COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE BOTH  INTERNALLY AND EXTERNALLY TO  CREATE A BRAND THAT WILL  ATTRACT NEW BUSINESS AND HELP  THE CITY RETAIN ITS CURRENT  AGAIN IMPROVING THE CITY'S  REPUTATION CONNECTING  RESIDENTS TO NORTH PORT SO  THAT THERE IS MEANING BEHIND  THE PHRASE OF I LIVE IN PORT.  >> SO THIS IS THE VERY  >> THEM ALL BRAND CONCEPTS  THAT WAS AT ON 7/27/2009. I  BELIEVE THAT A FEW PARTS THAT  STOOD OUT TO US AS A TEAM  ABOUT THE PROMISING COMMUNITY  WERE SO FLEXIBLE OPPORTUNITY.  EVERYONE IS INVITED TO TAKE  OWNERSHIP AND PORT PEOPLE TO  KNOW THAT THERE ARE INVITED TO  SEIZE OPPORTUNITY AND MAKE THE  TOWN AND EVERYTHING HAS TO  OFFER.  >> YOU KNOW. SO. THAT IS THE  CONCEPT AND TURNED INTO THEY  TOOK THE CONCEPT BROUGHT THAT  INTO THE BRAND STRATEGY  STATEMENTS YOU'LL SEE HERE.  HOW YOU KIND BUILD A BRAND  STRATEGY STATEMENT AS YOU  IDENTIFY YOUR TARGET  AUDIENCES. YOU TRY AND GIVE  THEM A FRAME OF REFERENCE FOR  WEAR. THAT'S BRANDON, YOUR YOU  OR AN IDENTIFIER SO THEY KNOW  WHERE YOU ARE THE POINT OF  DIFFERENCE IS WHAT MAKES YOU  UNIQUE AND THEN THE BENEFIT IS  WHY WHY SHOULD ANYONE CARE SO  OUR POLL OF BRAND STRATEGY  STATEMENT WAS FOR THOSE WHO  WANT TO BE PART OF AN UP AND  COMING ACCESSIBLE COMMUNITY.  NORTH PORT FLORIDA AND  SARASOTA COUNTY IS  CONVENIENTLY LOCATED BETWEEN  TAMPA AND FORT MYERS WHERE  UNIQUE ENVIRONMENT AND  YOUTHFUL MINDSET INVITE YOU TO  SHAPE ITS FUTURE. SO IT IS  NATURAL TO FEEL LIKE VITAL AND  POTENTIAL IS UNLIMITED. NOW  THAT BRAN STRATEGY IT WAS  PROVED ON 7/27/2009. DURING  THAT PROCESS ON JUNE 29TH A  FEW DAYS LATER A YEAR LATER  THIS WAS THE VISUAL IDENTITY  THAT WAS THEN. APPROVED I  COMMISSION.  >> SO THAT'S THE HISTORY AND  HOW WE GOT TO WHERE WE  CURRENTLY AND SOME OF THE  QUESTIONS THAT WE'VE HEARD OF  THE YEARS IS HOW DO YOU KNOW  THAT IT'S TIME TO UPDATE, YOU  KNOW HOW DO YOU KNOW WHEN YOUR  YOUR VISUAL IDENTITY IS  PERHAPS NOT FULFILLING WHAT  YOUR BRAND STRATEGY IS AND SO  THESE ARE A FEW OF THOSE  REASONS WHY YOU MIGHT WANT TO  LOOK UPDATING REFRESHING. IT'S  IF YOU WERE PRESIDENT BEHAVIOR  NEEDS HAVE CHANGED. IF A  JUSTIN COMMUNICATIONS TO  ACCOMMODATE MAJOR CHANGES  WITHIN THE CITY'S SO NEW  INFRASTRUCTURE, THERE'S HIGH  PROFILE EVENTS. YOU KNOW A NEW  HIGH PROFILE BUSINESS COMING  TO YOUR COMMUNITY. IF THE  VISUAL IDENTITY, INCLUDING THE  LOCAL STARTING TO LOOK DATED  IT COULD USE A REFRESH BUT THE  BIGGEST ONE THAT WE  HIGHLIGHTED HERE FOR YOU IS IF  THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN  HOW THE CITY IS PROJECTED AND  THE ACTUAL EXPERIENCES IN  REALITY OF THE PLACE. SO IF  YOU HAVE A DISCONNECT SUCH AS  THAT. IT'S TIME FOR  RE-BRANDING OR PERHAPS EVEN  REPOSITIONING.  >> SO AFTER REVIEW AND TAKE A  LOOK AT ALL THE SURVEYS IN THE  STUDIES AND THE RESEARCH THAT  HAD GONE INTO OUR ORIGINAL  BRAND STRATEGY.  >> WE BELIEVE THAT THAT  STRATEGY AND THE POSITIONING  REMAIN RELEVANT TO WHO WE ARE  TODAY AS A COMMUNITY. BUT  THERE IS A DISCONNECT BETWEEN  OUR VISUAL IDENTITY AND WHO WE  ARE AND TO DO SO ONE OF  ANALOGIES THAT LIKE TO MAKE IS  THAT WE'VE KIND OF GONE  THROUGH OUR OPPORTUNE 8 YEARS  AS COMMUNITY RIGHT WE'RE  STARTING TO GROW AND FULLY  GROWN AND SO THAT'S KIND OF  WHERE WE'RE AT AT THIS POINT  IN TIME. AND SO RECOMMENDATION  IS TO USE THAT EXISTING  RESEARCH DATA AND THE BRAND  STRATEGY THAT EXISTS IN TO  DEVELOP AN UPDATED VISUAL  IDENTITY. SO HOW CAN WE DO  ABOUT. WE WOULD START BY  PUTTING TOGETHER A CREATIVE  BRIEF. IN PROTOTYPE DESIGNS  INTERNALLY AND WE WOULD  UTILIZE THAT 2010 RESEARCH AND  THE INFORMATION THAT WAS  GATHERED THROUGH THOSE STUDIES  AS WELL AS FEEDBACK FROM CITY  LEADERSHIP AND OTHER  STAKEHOLDERS AND THEN ONCE WE  HAVE A COUPLE PROTOTYPES  DEVELOPED WE WOULD GO OUT AND  SOLICIT EXTENSIVE FEEDBACK.  BOTH INTERNALLY AND EXTERNALLY  FROM OUR PUBLIC FROM OUR  RESIDENTS. ON THE PROTOTYPES  THAT HAVE BEEN DESIGNED AND  THEN WE WOULD WORK WITH A  SPECIALIST TO FIND TO THOSE  DESIGNS INCORPORATE THAT  FEEDBACK. TO BRING A COUPLE I  DON'T LOOK IN FIELDS FOR  APPROVAL AND TO ENSURE THAT  OUR IMPLEMENTATION IS CLEAN.  THIS IS THE PRETTY VERSION OF  ALL THAT WORDS I DIRECT YOU TO  ROB TIMELINE FOR YOU WE WOULD  LOOK AT STARTING THE  PREPARATION PHASE THIS SUMMER  WE WOULD DEVELOP A TOUCH POINT  INVENTORY NOW A TOUCH POINT  INVENTORIES WHEN YOU TAKE A  LOOK AT ALL THE WAYS WHICH ARE  VOCAL ARE YOUR OFFICIAL  IDENTITY IS UTILIZED. AND YOU  MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A  COMPREHENSIVE LIST OF WHERE IT  IS SO FROM BEING YOU KNOW IT'S  BE ABLE TO CLOTHING TO ON THE  WALLS OR SIGNAGE TO THE  ROUNDS. WE WANT TO HAVE A GOOD  IDEA WHERE WHERE LOGOS BEING  USED AND WHY. AND THEN WE  WOULD WORK ON PUTTING TOGETHER  A CREATIVE BRIEF AND OF COURSE  DISCUSSING THIS FURTHER IN THE  BUDGET WORKSHOPS THAT ARE  COMING AND THEN IN THE WE  WOULD LIKE TO SOLICIT INTERNAL  FEEDBACK ON SOME OF THOSE  PROTOTYPES SO THIS WOULD BE  THE PROTOTYPE DEVELOPMENT  STAGE. AND WE WOULD PUT  TOGETHER A START PUTTING  TOGETHER WITH OUR  IMPLEMENTATION PLAN WOULD BE  WE WOULD LOOK TO ENGAGE THAT  SPECIALIST. SO THAT WOULD BE  SOMEONE WHO IN THE LATER  STAGES AS WE LOOK  IMPLEMENTATION. WELL WE VERY I  HAVE A FABULOUS TEAM VERY  TALENTED PEOPLE WHO COULD PUT  TOGETHER PROTOTYPES. WE REALLY  WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS  GOES AS CLEANLY AS POSSIBLE SO  TO HAVE SOMEONE WHO HAS THAT  EXPERIENCE IN DOING NOTHING  BUT IMPLEMENTING BROWNS YOU  KNOW THEY HELP US AT THE  POLISH TO MAKE SURE THAT WE  DON'T RUN INTO SURPRISES ALONG  THE WAY YOU KNOW SOMETIMES IF  YOU HAVE A LOGO THAT SHAPED A  LITTLE ODDLY. IT'S GOING TO BE  DIFFICULT TO WORK ON  UNCERTAINTY. 4 MINUTES WHEN  YOU'RE ROLLING IT OUT OR IT  MIGHT LOOK FUNKY SIGNED BUT  NOT ON A SHIRT AND SO HAVING  SOMEONE WHO CAN HELP US THINK  ABOUT THOSE POTENTIAL PITFALLS  WILL HELP US MAKE SURE AT THE  VISUAL IDENTITY ROLLOUT GO  SMOOTHLY AND IS COST EFFECTIVE  AS WELL SO. SO THAT IS THE  PROTOTYPE PHASE WE BUT FOR  PUBLIC FEEDBACK IN THE WINTER  AND SPRING SO WE'D BE LOOKING  TO HAVE VARIOUS STAKEHOLDER  FOCUS GROUPS GATHER FEEDBACK.  OF COURSE SPEAK WITH OUR  LEADERSHIP AND OUR ELECTED  SUCH AS YOURSELVES AND MAKE  SURE THAT WE GATHER AS MUCH  FEEDBACK AS WE POSSIBLY CAN.  AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE  COOPERATE THAT IN THE  FINALIZATION STAGE AND PRESENT  A FINAL FOR APPROVAL BUT TO  DEVELOP GUIDELINES LAUNCH AND  THEN WE GO TO IMPLEMENTATION  OF ALBION ONE OF THE IMPORTANT  THINGS TO KNOW IS IN OUR  INITIAL PLAN AS WE'RE NOT  LOOKING TOO LIKE IMMEDIATELY  THROW AWAY EVERYTHING THAT HAS  THE EXISTING LOGO. THIS WOULD  BE A LONG-TERM ROLL OUT ITS  FORMER COST-EFFECTIVE THOSE  THINGS COME TO THE END OF  THEIR NATURAL LIFE. YOU JUST  UPDATE IT AS YOU GO AS OPPOSED  TO TRYING TO PITCH AWAY  EVERYTHING ALL AT ONCE AND  HAVE IT ALL COMPLETELY FRESH  START SO WE'D BE LOOKING AT  THIS BEING A LONG-TERM ROLLOUT  AS AS THINGS NEED TO BE  UPDATED. COUPLE OF THE KEY  BENEFITS WE WANTED TO POINT  OUT IS THAT THIS PROCESS THAT  WE'RE LOOKING AT AND ARE  TAKING US FARMER FINED. YOU  KNOW SMALL OR SCOPE THAN WHAT  THE CITY UNDERTOOK BACK IN  2010 SO WE ANTICIPATED BEING  FORMER BUDGET ON ME. WE  ALREADY TOUCHED ON THE  LONG-TERM ROLE A STRATEGY TO  HELP CONTROL THOSE COSTS. I'M  HAVING A TOUGH POINT INVENTORY  IS SO IMPORTANT SO THAT WE  KNOW WHEN AND HOW OUR LOOK OUR  BRAND IS BEING UTILIZED AND  HOW IT'S BEING DISPLAYED  PRESIDENT SO THE OPPORTUNITY  TO WORK WITH OTHERS ACROSS THE  DEPARTMENTS TO DEVELOP THAT  LIST WILL BE A GREAT CHANCE  FOR COHESION AND HAVING A FULL  LIST OF POINTS AND AT THE END  OF THE DAY OF COURSE WE ALL  WANT A VISUAL IDENTITY THAT WE  CAN EMBRACE THE PRODUCT AS A  COMMUNITY. PRESENTATION WE'RE  HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS  YOU MIGHT HAVE. MISSION  WITHOUT.  ♪ ♪ >> WHEN  >> I WHEN I WAS REVIEWING THIS  WORKSHOP MATERIAL. THE ONE  THING THAT KEPT KIND OF COMING  BACK TO.  >> IS ON YOUR SLIDE WORKS IN  STAFF RECOMMENDATION. AND IT  SAID THERE'S A DISCONNECT  BETWEEN OUR VISUAL IDENTITY  AND WE'VE GROWN INTO. EVER  REMEMBER US HAVING A  CONVERSATION THAT THIS IS A  STRATEGIC PLAN. PART OF OUR  STRATEGIC PLAN THAT WE NEED TO  DO THIS. I DON'T REMEMBER  SEEING ANYTHING IN THE BUDGET  ABOUT RE-BRANDING THE CITY.  HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT IS  THAT DISCONNECT. AND WHO  DECIDED THERE WAS A DISCONNECT  BECAUSE 20 HAPPENED HAD ANY OF  THAT DISCUSSION SO HELP ME  UNDERSTAND THAT MORE.  >> QUESTION IS YOU ARE HAVING  DISCUSSION TODAY. WE'RE  TELLING YOU ONLY TODAY THAT  THE GREAT YOU HAVE THAT YOU  ADOPTED DON'T 2009 DOES NOT  REPRESENT GROWTH OF THE CITY  DOES REPRESENT HIGH LEVEL OF  SOPHISTICATION OF THE CITY IS  MORE THAN JUST I CAN NOW  LISTEN IN THE ASSET YOU CAN  ACHIEVE ANYTHING SORT OF HASH  TAG. WE'RE TRYING FIND THAT TO  MAKE IT MORE REPRESENTATIVE OF  WHO WE ARE TODAY AND MOVE  FORWARD.  >> AND I APPRECIATE THAT BUT.  THERE WAS A MEMO THAT CAME  OUT. IN JULY OF LAST YEAR THAT  INCLUDED A LINK TO THE  COMMUNICATIONS GUY. AND IN THE  COMMUNICATIONS GUIDE. IT SAID  THIS IS OUR NEWEST SPECIAL  BOBO. THIS CITY OF NORTH  PORT'S OFFICIAL LOGO WILL  REPRESENT THE CITY AND HAS A  COMPLETELY DIFFERENT COLOR  SCHEME.  >> OF OUR LOGO.  >> OUR LITTLE CURRENTLY IS FOR  COLORING THIS IS APPEARING TO  BE LIKE A ONE COLOR. AND  THERE'S 3 DIFFERENT VERSIONS  IN YOUR COMMUNICATIONS GUY. SO  THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING YOU'VE  ALREADY IMPLEMENTED SOME OF  THESE CHANGES AND THAT'S WHY  I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. WHY  WE'VE SEEN TODAY WHEN SOME OF  THESE CHANGES HAVE ALREADY  TAKEN PLACE.  >> THE CHANGES THAT YOU SAW  WAS JUST SIMPLY CHANGING THE  COLOR WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TYRE  DO OF THE LOGO WITHOUT JUST  TAKEN THE COLOR.  >> IT'S BEEN A MINUTE I MADE  THOSE WERE IN OUR OWN BRANDING  GUIDELINES. SO WE NAMED HIM  BECAUSE WE KNEW THAT THEY WERE  AND EFFECTS TO REFUSE TO GO  THROUGH THE HALLWAYS YOU  PROBABLY SEEN IT IN OUR  MATERIALS THAT DEPENDING ON  WHO CREATED THE MATERIAL  HANDOUT IT COULD BE ONE COLOR  THIS COLOR THAT CAR SO WE HAD  7 OR 8 APPROVED COLORS IN  THOSE BRAND GUIDELINES THAT  WERE ORIGINALLY APPROVED AND  SO IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAD 7 OR 8  PERSONALITIES DEPENDING ON  WHICH PIECE OF LITERATURE YOU  WOULD PICK UP OR WHAT YOU'RE  LOOKING AT AND SO IS GIVING US  KIND OF. MULTIPLE  PERSONALITIES WHEN PEOPLE ARE  LOOKING AT THINGS AND THE GOAL  WAS TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE IT'S  COHESIVE COMING FROM ONE  ORGANIZATIONS THAT SOMEONE CAN  PICK UP AND KNOW THAT IT'S A  CITY OF NORTH PORT OF  PUBLICATIONS SO THOSE INTERIM  GUIDELINES TOOK EXISTING  APPROVED. GUIDELINES FROM 2009  AND WE SIMPLY CONDENSED IT SO  IT WASN'T A CHANGE IN COLOR WE  JUST SIMPLY SAID INSTEAD OF  USING ALL 8 OF THESE COLORS  WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON THESE  3 SO THOSE COLORS WERE ALREADY  APPROVED IN 2009. A LOCAL WAS  WE WERE JUST TRYING STREAMLINE  IT A LITTLE BIT SO THAT WE  WOULD HAVE MORE EXCUSE ME MORE  COHESION I HOPE.  >> IN THE COMMUNICATIONS  GUIDANCE ALSO MENTIONED THAT  THE OTHER LOGOS FROM LIKE  POLICE AND FIRE THE AQUATIC  CENTER. THOSE ARE EMBLEMS AND  LOCALS ARE THOSE GOING TO BE  REDONE TOO.  >> AND THAT'S NOT CURRENTLY  PART OF WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING  ARE SIMPLY LOOKING AT THE CITY  OF NORTH PORT LOKO.  >> JUST WANT TO MAKE OKAY.  >> SO THE REASON WHY THESE.  >> THESE QUESTIONS BACK IN  2009 WHEN 2008 9 WHATEVER.  >> THEY WANT SHOO  >> DISCONTENT. WITH DOING THAT  REBRAND. SO MANY CITIZENS WERE  AGAINST IT FROM THE BEGINNING  GRANTED AT THAT TIME WE WERE  COMING OUT ENVIRONMENT  ECONOMIC ENVIRONMENT THAT  DIDN'T. THAT KIND MAYBE PEOPLE  SAYING YOU'RE SPENDING ALL  THIS MONEY AND IT WAS A LARGE  AMOUNT VERY LARGE AMOUNT OF  MONEY.  >> THIS LAST WEEK WE'RE  SITTING HERE. TALKING ABOUT  HOW WE HAVE ALL OF THESE NEEDS  IN OUR CITY. AND IT KIND OF  GIVES THE APPEARANCE HAVING  THIS DISCUSSION TODAY THAT  WERE KIND OF TONE DEATH.  BECAUSE THERE IS GOING TO  COSTS TO THIS AND. WHAT DOES  THAT COST. WHAT DOES THAT LOOK  LIKE NOT JUST WHAT YOU ALREADY  DONE BUT WHAT'S COMING FORWARD  IN THE FUTURE. WE'RE GOING TO  BE ASKING PEOPLE TO VOTE FOR  THINGS FOR REFERENDUM. YES  THAT WAS HUGE PROJECTS  COMPARED TO THE MINISCULE A  LOBO REDEFINED. BUT IT STILL  COST AND IT KIND OF MAKES US  LOOK LIKE. WE'VE GOT MONEY TO  SPEND ON RE-BRANDING BUT WE  DON'T HAVE MONEY TO SPEND ON  FAR MORE IMPORTANT THINGS. I  JUST. WANT TO KIND UNDERSTAND  WHY NOW WHY THIS WHEN WE'VE  GOT SO MUCH OTHER STUFF ON OUR  PLATE. SO I THINK  >> QUESTION WHY NO WAS INJURED  IN THE POWER PLAY GIVE A VERY  GOOD HISTORY OF HOW WE GOT  HERE AND WHAT WE NEED ORDER.  PEOPLE EVERYTHING THAT WE DO  IN ALL THE HE'S BEEN ON DID  THEY DO ACCEPTABLE. SO PEOPLE  DON'T LIKE CHANGE THOSE SAME  PEOPLE DO THAT THE WAY THEY  DO. SO WHAT WE WHAT ARE WE  SUPPOSED TO DO CONTINUE TO GO.  CONTINUE TO DO THE MISSION  WOULD BE MAKE SURE THAT THE  CITY HAS ROOTS.  >> I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT  THE TONE DEAFNESS OF THE  MESSAGE BEING SAID THAT'S ALL  I'M CONCERNED ABOUT I JUST  WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT  THERE.  >> DO WE HAVE AN ESTIMATED  COST FOR THIS.  >> YES MA'AM SO WE TOOK A LOOK  SO TO TO GIVE YOU WE'VE DONE  OUR DUE DILIGENCE WE'VE LOOKED  AT SOME COME. PARABLES IT'S  NOT ALL NECESSARILY APPLES  APPLE. SO THE 2009 STUDY THAT  YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT WAS  90,000 IT IS NOT ANYWHERE  CLOSE TO THAT THAT WE'RE  LOOKING THAT IS THE UTTER  RECENTLY POSTED AN RFP FOR  RE-BRANDING BUT THEIRS IS FOR  A COMPLETELY NEW STRATEGY  SEA-TAC ON ALL ABOUT AND ITS  40,000 WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT  EITHER. CITY OF SARASOTA  UNDERTOOK A RE-BRANDING AND  THAT WAS FOR TO US FOR THEIR  LOGO AND THEY'RE SEEING ON THE  HOUSE FOR 25,000 SO THAT IS  WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT IN OUR  RESEARCH WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT  A RANGE OF 5 TO 20,000. WE'RE  GOING TO BE INCORPORATING THIS  IS PART OF OUR BUDGET REQUEST  WITH THE BUDGET WORKSHOPS  COMING UP AND START WORKING ON  MAKE SURE WE DO DUE DILIGENCE  BUT WE WOULD NOT EXPECTED TO  EXCEED 25.  >> OKAY, AND THAT'S TO DO THE  RE-BRANDING I USED TO WORK FOR  A COMPANY THAT WAS IN CHARGE  OF REPAIRING COMING UP WITH  LOGOS FOR FORTUNE, 500  COMPANIES. AND THERE'S FAR  MORE. EXPENSES INVOLVED THE  RE-BRANDING EFFORT. SO ANY  IDEA WHAT THAT MAY LOOK LIKE  AS WE DO THE LAUNCHING  IMPLEMENTATION BECAUSE IT IS  FAR AND THAT'S A THAT'S A  GREAT QUESTION AND SO IT IS  DEFINITELY WE'VE BEEN THINKING  AND THAT'S WHERE THAT TOUCH  POINT IN WILL BE SO IMPORTANT  IS FOR US TO HAVE A GOOD IDEA  OF HOW THE LOBOS BEING USED  RIGHT NOW.  >> AND THAT'S ALSO WHY WE'RE  RECOMMENDING THAT LONGER-TERM  ROLE A STRATEGY SO THINGS AND  THAT NATURAL AND APPLY FOR NOT  JUST.  >> COMPLETELY REFRESHING  EVERYTHING IN ONE YEAR OR  LETTING THINGS FROM THEIR  NATURAL COURSE, AND THEN AS WE  WOULD BE REPLACING THE MAN  UPDATED AS AGO, SO IT'S NOT.  >> SUBSTANTIAL COST AND ONE OF  THE DRAWBACKS TO THAT BECAUSE  THERE ARE DRY, THERE ARE  DRAWBACKS ENSURE THAT WE HAVE  THAT FOR A LITTLE BIT OF SOME  OF THAT WOULD BE WHAT'S THE  APPETITE FOR BEING ABLE TO 2.  >> CAN WE LIVE WITH SEEING THE  OLDER LOGO. A LITTLE BIT  LONGER AND AND IT SEEMS LIKE  THAT WOULD BE THE MORE  FINANCIALLY RESPONSIBLE  APPROACH THANK YOU. OK THANK  YOU. VICE MAYOR. ALL FIRST.  >> I APPRECIATE THE NEED FOR.  WE BRANDING I DON'T DISAGREE  THAT AT POINT GROWTH CYCLE. I  THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT.  >> CLEAN IT UP UPGRADE IT TAKE  TO WHERE WE ARE NOW I THINK  THE BENEFITS TO THE CITY PARK  MULTIPLE. THEY COME BACK TO US  IN SO MANY WAYS WE REACH THAT  100,000 POPULATION MILESTONE.  WE ARE ON NATIONAL YOU KNOW  VISIBILITY OUT THERE AND AND  OUR ABILITY POOR AND.  >> WELL WILL PAY DIVIDENDS. 10  TIMES IN MY BOOK AS FAR AS  ATTRACTING BUSINESSES ATTRACT  ALL KINDS OF OPPORTUNITY TO  OUR CITY SO THAT SAID I WONDER  THOUGH. I DO NOT PROFESS TO BE  AN EXPERT AND BRANDING.  >> TO ME A LOW. IT'S ONLY ONE  PIECE THE BRANDING PROCESS IN  MY BOOK. YOU KNOW I APPRECIATE  THAT YOU KNOW THERE'S A COST  EVERYTHING I'M GOOD WITH THAT  YOU KNOW ACTUALLY I THINK  CERTAINLY ALL WILL FIND A WAY  TO BUILD WITHIN YOUR BUDGET  AND YOU KNOW WE WILL THEN AS  WE DO WITH EVERY OTHER PIECE  OF OUR BUDGET. YOU KNOW MAKE  OUR DECISIONS YEA OR NAY ON  THINGS BUT I BELIEVE YOU CAN  DO IT YOU HAVE BUT WE WE  COMPETENT STAFF OF PEOPLE LEFT  YOU KNOW SO THE FAST MAJORITY  OF THIS PROCESS CAN BE DONE  INTERNALLY WITH SOME OUTSIDE  YOU KNOW ASSISTANCE JUST TO  MAKE SURE YOUR YOU'RE ON THE  RIGHT TRACK YOU KNOW WHAT WILL  I IN ADDITION TO DESIGNING  LOGO, YOU KNOW ARE WE WE  TALKING TO COMMUNICATIONS  PROGRAM WE'RE TALKING  MESSAGING OUT THERE TO TO OUR  COMMUNITY TOO TO TO THE STATE  TO THE NATION AS FOR US WE ARE  MINAS THAT LITTLE PART OF  BRANDING CONCEPT OR OR ARE WE  TALKING UP A NEW LOW.  >> SO  >> FOR THIS PROPOSAL HERE  WE'RE LOOKING AT THE VISUAL  LOOK SO HOW ARE WE LOOKING TO  BRAND STRATEGY THAT IS THAT  DEEPER PICTURE OF HOW DO WE  PRESENT OURSELVES TO OTHERS  THAT'S THE MESSAGING THE  CONTENT HOW WE WRITE YOU KNOW  HOW WE COMMUNICATE THE  LANGUAGE ON THE WEB SITE IN  EVERY SOCIAL POST THAT KIND OF  THING IS WHERE BASED ON OUR  VIEW THAT IS STILL RELEVANT  WHO WE ARE TODAY WAS SIMPLY A  SLIGHT DISCONNECT BETWEEN THE  WAY IN WHICH YOU'RE VISUALLY  SHOWING OURSELVES AND WHO WE  ARE YOU KNOW THERE'S LIKE  PRIMARY COLORS THAT IS VERY  OLD SCHOOL AND HARD TO WORK  AND NOT NECESSARILY AS POLISH  JUST SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORS AND  DEVELOPERS WOULD LIKE US TO BE  AND HOW WE PRESENT OURSELVES  AS WE GROW. AND SO THIS IS  JUST A IN THIS PROPOSAL ITSELF  OR SIMPLY LOOKING AT THE LOGO  ITSELF. SOME OF THE CARS MIGHT  FIND ATTACK ALL OF US ONCE WE  GET THROUGH THE PUBLIC  FEEDBACK STAGES TO HELP.  >> IT DOES HELP I THINK AS WE  MOVE FORWARD IN THIS PROCESS I  REALLY TO YOU KNOW TO TOUCH ON  SOMETHING COMMISSIONER  MCDOWELL SAID YOU KNOW ONE  THING ABOUT COMMISSIONER  MCDOWELL SHE ALWAYS THE  ABILITY TO PROJECT THE  PERSPECTIVE OF MANY OF OUR  RESIDENTS IN THE COMMUNITY AND  I THINK IT WILL BE IMPORTANT  THAT WE MAKE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND  OR HELP PEOPLE VALUE OF THIS  BRANDING AND THERE WAS A HUGE  VALUE TO DOING THIS. OKAY WITH  ANY OF THE PROJECTS WE DO  THERE ARE CITY MANAGER SAID.  PEOPLE LIKE TO COMPLAIN PEOPLE  DON'T LIKE CHANGE PEOPLE WILL  SAY YOU WANT TO SPEND MONEY ON  THIS THAT THE OTHER AND IF IF  THEY DON'T SEE A DIRECT  BENEFIT TO THEMSELVES. THEY  DON'T WANT TO SEE IT I GET  THAT AND THAT'S JUST THE WAY  LIFE IS BUT THIS HAS VALUE.  AND I THINK THAT MESSAGE NEEDS  REALLY GET OUT THERE. SO THAT  WE DON'T GET THE KIND  DISTRACTION BLOWBACK AND  DIFFICULTY WITH THE JUSTICES.  THIS IS YOU KNOW NOT THE  BIGGEST THING GOING ON THE  CITY OF NORTH PORT BUT IT IS  AN IMPORTANT PIECE.  >> YOU KNOW RULE. OUR GROWTH  AND AND SO I I APPRECIATE IT A  FOR THE SHIP. YOU GUYS ROLL  THIS THING OUT LITTLE BY  LITTLE HERE SO. THANK YOU FOR  BRINGING THIS BEFORE US.  COMMISSIONER LANGDON.  >> THANK YOU A LOT OF MY  COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS SORT OF  FLOW ALONG WITH WHAT BYSTANDER  WAS TALKING ABOUT BUT LET ME  START BY SAYING THAT I THINK  THIS TEAM, OUR CURRENT  COMMUNICATIONS TEAM HAS DONE  MORE TO IMPROVE THE BRAND OF  THE CITY IN THE PAST YEAR. AND  ALL OF OUR OTHER EFFORTS. AND  IN THE PAST, YOU KNOW JUST  YOUR ABILITY TO. POSITIVE NEWS  AND. MAKING IT EASIER FOR NEWS  OUTLETS TO SHARE OUR MESSAGE  YOU KNOW SORT OF THE POSITIVE  THINGS THAT THE CITIES ARE  DOING AND I JUST REALLY WANT  TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT AND THANK  YOU FOR THAT OUT. LIKE VICE  MAYOR I'M NOT DISCOUNTING THE  IMPORTANCE OF BRANDS AND  COLORS I MEAN AFTER 25 YEARS  IN MARKETING MYSELF, I KNOW  THOSE THINGS ARE VERY  IMPORTANT. BUT I AM VERY  INTERESTED AND IN THE BROADER  CONVERSATION, WHICH IS HOW WE.  REDEFINE OURSELVES OUTSIDE OF  THE CITY. SO CERTAINLY. OUR  EFFORTS TO INVOLVE THE  COMMUNITY REALLY IMPORTANT. I  AGAIN, I'M NOT DISCOUNTING  THAT ALL BUT I'M PARTICULARLY  INTERESTED. AND. YOUR PLAN TO  DO SOME FOCUS GROUPS AND AND  WHO ARE YOU SEEING IS THE  TARGET AUDIENCES LIKE. WHAT'S  YOUR DEFINITION OF THE TARGET  AUDIENCES THAT WILL BE  SOLICITING INPUT FROM SURE.  >> SURE THAT'S A REALLY WIDE  LIST WE BE LOOKING FOR HIM HUH  FROM ACROSS THE CITY, SO YOU  KNOW WE WANT TO HEAR FROM  PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT OPENING  A BUSINESS POTENTIAL  DEVELOPERS. BUT WE ALSO WANT  TO HEAR FROM LONGTIME  RESIDENTS AND WE'D LIKE TO  HEAR FROM OUR OWN EMPLOYEES  WHO WORK HERE AND SERVE THE  PUBLIC. WE WOULD LOVE TO HEAR  FROM OUR NONPROFIT GROUPS AND  THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SERVING OUT  THERE ON THE GROUND SO IT'S  IT'S A WIDE DEFINITION. WAYS  WOULD BE IMPORTANT PART OF  THAT SO WE'RE REALLY LOOKING  AT WILL HAVE TO MAKE A BROAD  LIST. BUT WE'RE NOT SAYING  IT'S LIKE 2 OR 3 GROUPS AND  THAT'S IT YOU DID YOU DID OUR  DUE DILIGENCE RIGHT WE'RE  GOING TO LOOK FOR MUCH BROADER  SCOPE THEM OUT AND WE'D BE  LOOKING FOR YOUR INPUT AS WHO  WOULD APPROPRIATE. PEOPLE TO  HAVE AS PART OF US  >> OKAY THAT'S TERRIFIC. I  LIKE THE WAY THAT YOU'RE  THINKING AND I REALLY WANT TO  MAKE SURE THAT WE BALANCE. THE  INPUT OF GROUPS AND  ORGANIZATIONS AND PEOPLE  WITHIN THE CITY AND THOSE  OUTSIDE OF THE CITY. IF. NOT  SO MUCH RECENTLY, BUT IT WAS  NOT UNCOMMON WHEN I TRAVELED  AROUND. THE WEST COAST OF  FLORIDA AND SAID THAT I WITH  THE NORTH PUT PEOPLE WOULD  KIND OF LOOK AT VERY  PHYSICALLY. WHY IN THE WORLD  PORT AND SO IT'S THAT KIND OF  AN IMPRESSION I THINK A LOT OF  THAT IS BASED ON VERY OLD  TAPES. SO I'M REALLY GOING TO  BE LOOKING FOR BRANDING THAT  IS FRESH AND EXCITING AND  >> YOU KNOW VERY DYNAMIC AND  CHANGING AND GROWING. YOU KNOW  AS MUCH AS WE CAN COMMUNICATE  THAT KIND OF ETHIC WE ARE  UNIQUE IN OUR USE.  >> SO THEY DON'T PROVE IT BY  THE FACES UP HERE AGENT BUT WE  ARE A VERY YOUTHFUL EXCUSE ME  CITY AND AND WE NEED TO SHOW  THAT FACE, I'M A LOT MORE THAN  WE DO. AND AGAIN THE ROLLOUT I  THINK THIS WILL BE A BROADER  CONVERSATION. BUT WOOD DONE  SUCH A GOOD JOB PUSHING  CONTENT OUT. AS WE REBRAND  AGAIN THOSE. MORE SUBTLE  THINGS BE BEYOND THE LOGO AND  HOW WE DESCRIBE THE CITY AND  OUR PRESS RELEASES AND AND  THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.  >> HOW ARE WE.  >> GOING TO PUSH THOSE OUT.  BECAUSE THAT IS SO SO  IMPORTANT. SO I'D BE REALLY  INTERESTED TO SEE HOW WE'RE  GOING TO BE AGGRESSIVE FORWARD  THINKING AND FORWARD ACTING  AND HOW WE SHARE THAT  INFORMATION. AND I ALWAYS VIEW  AS MESSAGING AS A KEY PART OF  BRANDING SO I WOULD HOPE YOU  KNOW SORT OF HAVE WHAT WHAT  ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT  WE WANT TO BE COMMUNICATING  WHEN WE DEVELOP NEW LITERATURE  WHEN ANY OF US ALLOWED TO  SPEAK TO GROUP ABOUT WHAT'S  HAPPENING IN THE CITY. WE  SHOULD HAVE WHETHER WE CHOOSE  TO YOU SHOULD HAVE FRONT OF  US. YOU KNOW THOSE MESSAGES  THAT ARE PART OF OUR BRANDING  THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE  SHARE WITH PEOPLE AS WE'RE OUT  AND ABOUT SPEAKING WITH GROUPS  OF WITHIN AND OUTSIDE THE  CITY. THE BUDGET IS PEANUTS.  YEAH WE DO HAVE SOME BIG BIG  PROJECT CHALLENGES. IT DOESN'T  MEAN THAT EVERYTHING ELSE HAS  TO STOP. AND SO I'M VERY  SUPPORTIVE OF LOOK FORWARD TO  YOUR BUDGET REQUEST, I'M  INCLINED TO BE VERY SUPPORTIVE  OF IT BECAUSE IT IS IMPORTANT  WORK TO DO.  >> HOMES.  >> NOW I I THINK I'M GOOD  THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT  PRESENTATION, THANK YOU AND  YOU ALL RIGHT TO GO TO  COMMISSIONER ELRICH.  >> THANK YOU FOR STATION THAT  SAYS. I FIRMLY AGREE IT'S BEEN  A LONG TIME COMING AND IT  DEFINITELY NEEDS TO BE DONE IT  DOESN'T NEED TO BE DOCKED AT A  VERY EXPENSIVE SCALE. BUT I  THINK WE'VE ALREADY STARTED  DOING A RE-BRANDING AND THE  PROCESS BECAUSE BACK IN 2010  WHEN IT CAME OUT WHERE WE'RE A  CITY WHERE YOU CAN ACHIEVE  ANYTHING THAT'S A PRETTY BOLD  STATEMENT AND THEN WITHIN THE  FIRST YEAR HE LET PEOPLE COME  IN ALL I COULD EVEN GET A ****  PERMIT BACK IN.  >> YOU'VE GOT JUST FROM THAT  STATEMENT SO THAT'S NOT A VERY  GOOD BRAND OR SLOW GOING TO  HAVE. AND I AGREE THAT THE  DESIGN IS A LITTLE OUTDATED  BECAUSE THAT'S PROBABLY THE  ARTISTIC STYLE WITH 2010 15  YEARS LATER.  >> AND I THINK THAT'S AN EASY  FIX TO COME UP WITH A  DIFFERENT LOGO. BUT I THINK  LIKE I WE'VE SORT CALLING  HERSELF COMMUNITY OF UNITY FOR  THE LAST YEAR SO AND I THINK  IT STEMS FROM ESPECIALLY AND  IN MY OPINION I'M SEEING WHAT  WE WENT THROUGH IN THE ER NOW.  AND THE COMMUNITY REALLY GOT  TOGETHER AND WAS OUT THERE AND  I REMEMBER ONE OF THE  NONPROFITS OUT THERE WHEN ALL  ELSE FAILS THAT WAS DESTROYED  THEIR OFFICE WAS DESTROYED,  BUT THEY'RE OUT ON THE STREETS  MAKING SURE PEOPLE ARE GETTING  FAT. AND AND THEY STILL CAME  TOGETHER WITH PROFITS. AND  EVERYBODY HAS A COMMUNITY WAS  OUT THERE TRYING TO HELP YOU  PEOPLE THEIR OWN PRIVATE BOATS  THEIR AIR BOATS COMING IN TO  SAVE OR ARE HELD AN EVENT THAT  STRANDED DIDN'T HAVE MEANS. WE  ALL CAME TOGETHER AND THAT'S A  WHOLE SAID THAT'S NOT JUST  CITY STAFF. IT'S COMMUNITY.  WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR BRAND AND  WHAT WE REALLY ARE IT'S A  COMMUNITY OF UNITY OR  SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.  AND I THINK THAT MAY BE A GOOD  STABLE TO GO IF SOMETHING THAT  WE'RE LOOKING AT IT CAN BE  VERY CHEAPLY WITH A DIFFERENT  PICTURE IN A SO IT'S UP TO YOU  TO GO OUT THERE AND DO WHAT  THE CITIZEN TO REALLY LOOK AT  NIGHT I WOULD SUPPORT THIS AS  LONG AS IT'S NOT A HUGE  FINANCIAL BURDEN. WE ARE  LOOKING COUNTIES NOWADAYS TO  TRY RAISE MONEY BUT. IF THIS  IS YOUR JOB WAS GET A SO I  THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR  PRESENTATION. THANK YOU.  >> WANT TO PUT MY $0.2 AND I  JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THIS ALSO  INCLUDE A NEW SLOGAN OTHER  THAN THE ACHIEVE ANYTHING THAT  WOULD YES THE WHOLE AND OKAY.  I HAVE TO SAY I'M VERY HAPPY  TO HEAR THAT I WAS NOT A FAN  OF THIS AT ACHIEVING ANYTHING.  TO ME BEING A FORMER SCHOOL  TEACHER THAT SOUNDED LIKE  SOMETHING WE WOULD COME UP  WITH OUR SLOGAN FOR THE SCHOOL  YEAR CHIEF ANYTHING AND THEN  ALSO WITH THE PRIMARY COLORS I  JUST THOUGHT THAT WAS 2, 2,  SCHOOL PRIMARY LIKE BUT AS  COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL SAID WE  WERE COMING, I'M OUT OF IT THE  REAL ESTATE CRASH WORTH PART  WANTED TO IF THE MESSAGE OUT  THAT WE ARE OPEN FOR BUSINESS  AND I I THINK THAT'S WHY THEY  WENT THAT DIRECTION. AS  COMMISSIONER EMRICH SAID A  COMMUNITY OF UNITY SPEAKS MORE  ABOUT THE HEART AND SOUL OF  THE COMMUNITY AND HELP PEOPLE  COME TOGETHER. IN GOOD TIMES  IN BAD TIMES I LIKE I LIKE  THAT IDEA TO FOCUS ON THE  SOFTER SIDE OF BEING A CITY, I  MEAN CITIES ARE MORE THAN JUST  THE NUMBERS ARE GOING YOU KNOW  WE'RE GETTING THOSE NUMBERS  AND SOMETIMES I DON'T LIKE  HEARING THAT BECAUSE THAT'S  ALL PEOPLE ARE FOCUSED ON YOU  KNOW TOO MUCH GROWTH BUT. THAT  BRINGS IN PEOPLE BRINGS IN A  LOT OF DIVERSITY AND BRINGS IN  LOT OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE HAVE  THINGS THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE THE  30 SOMETHING YEARS AGO WHEN I  FIRST CAME I'M JUST TALKING TO  SOME OF THE YESTERDAY ABOUT  WHAT WE DID NOT HAPPEN  IN NORTH PORT AND THEY  COULDN'T BELIEVE. WHAT THAT  WHAT WE DEALT WITH. SO I AM  ALL IN FAVOR OF SOMETHING THAT  REALLY SHOWS WHAT MAKES. NORTH  PORT UNIQUE I LIKE THE THAT  SOUGHT YOU KNOW JUST TO SAY I  LIVE IN PORT, THIS 30  SOMETHING YEARS AGO. I HAD TO  TELL PEOPLE WHO LIVED IN  SARASOTA COUNTY WHERE NORTH  PORT WAS THEY WOULD SAY  WHERE'S THAT IS A STAR WHAT I  MEAN THEY DIDN'T EVEN KNOW.  BUT I WANT THEM NOT TO EVER  QUESTION OR HAVE THAT OLD.  THINKING ABOUT NORTH PORT  NORTH OR IT'S NOT THAT WAY  ANYMORE AS THINGS ARE. WE HAVE  THAT YOUTHFUL TEAM HERE, I'M  SO HAPPY THAT THAT FRESH  IDEAS. AND AND SO YOUR YOUR  TITLE IS YOUR MARKETING AND  ENGAGEMENT MANAGER DIRECT YES,  SO THAT IS YOUR FIELD OF  EXPERTISE, THIS IS WHAT YOU  ARE GOING TO PUT TOGETHER FOR  US OR. AND THIS THIS WHOLE  USING WHAT YOU YOU KNOW HOW TO  DO SO THAT'S THAT'S GREAT. AND  I THINK THAT'S IT BUT I JUST  WANT TO CLARIFY ABOUT THE  ACHIEVE ANYTHING THAT WE ARE  GOING TO LOOK AT TOO AND SO I  WOULD BE VERY MUCH IN FAVOR  OF. GOING FORWARD WITH THIS SO  THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER  MCDOWELL, YEAH.  >> JUST 2 SHARE A POSITIVE.  >> WHEN I DO TALK TO PEOPLE  ABOUT WHERE I'M FROM AND I AM  WHAT CITY COMMISSIONER OF. I  GET VERY POSITIVE FEEDBACK.  >> OH MY GOSH YOU LIVE IN  NORTH PARK HOLY COW THAT CITY  IS GROWING BY LEAPS AND THAT.  >> SO. THEY PEOPLE DO  RECOGNIZE THAT AND I HEARD  FROM MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS  ABOUT WAS FULL OF THIS CITY,  IT'S. OUR LOGO IS USEFUL. ARE  YOU. MAYOR WHITE POINTED OUT  IT YOUTHFUL LOGO FOR A REASON  BECAUSE WE ARE YOUTHFUL CITY.  AND THE ACHIEVE ANYTHING.  WASN'T A FAN OF IT KIND OF  GREW ON ME START IT DEAL WITH  IT YOU MOVE ON. I DON'T KNOW  WHAT A NEW LOOK LIKE.  >> AND THERE WILL BE PUSHBACK  REGARDLESS IF WE KEEP WHEN YOU  GET A NEW ONE THERE'S GOING TO  BE PUSHED BACK NO MATTER WHICH  WAY WE GOT.  >> HEARING WHAT IS GOING TO BE  INVOLVED AND SHARING WITH US  THE COST OF WHAT THIS IS GOING  TO LOOK LIKE COMPARED TO WHAT  WAS DONE IN 2009. AT $90,000  IN 2009 DOOM AND GLOOM. SO YOU  KIND OF LIKE DOUBLE OR TRIPLE  IT FOR TODAY'S DOLLARS THAT'S  WHERE I WAS GOING WHEN I WAS  READING NOTHING IN THE BACK  REAL THAT SAID A POTENTIAL  ESTIMATED COST. SO I WAS USING  THE FRAME OF REFERENCE FROM  2009 KIND OF APPLYING.  >> KNOWING THAT WE'RE GOING TO  REDO WE ARE LOW, BUT WE'RE  GOING TO REDO OUR BRAND AND  WE'RE GOING TO COME UP WITH A  NEW TAGLINE. THAT'S NOT CHEAP.  I. OBVIOUSLY IT'S GOING TO  MOVE FORWARD. I JUST DO NOT  WANT IT TO FALL ON DEAF EARS  THAT. THIS IS A CHANGE ALONG  WITH EVERYTHING ELSE THAT'S  GOING ON IN OUR CITY. I I  WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED IN  KNOWING. WHAT VALUE THIS IS  REALLY AND TRULY GOING TO  BREAK BECAUSE OF MY  INTERACTIONS WITH PEOPLE THEY  KNOW WHO WE  >> I MEAN WE GET NATIONAL NEWS  ALL THE TIME NORTH PORT  >> I WAS WATCHING NEWS CHANNEL  AT THE STATE ONE DAY AND THEY  TALKED ABOUT POINT I WANT TO  PUT MY THAT'S MY CITY. WHILE  YOU'RE LOOKING TO IN INPUT  FROM. VARIES FOCUS GROUPS. WE  HAD A COMMITTEE BACK. IN 2009.  MAYBE WE START LIKE AN  ADVISORY KIND OF COMMITTEE TO  TO HELP WITH THIS. I I DON'T  KNOW WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE  KIND OF LIKE OUR VETERANS  COMMITTEE. TO HELP WITH THIS.  >> AND MAKE SURE ALL THE RULES  AND REGULATIONS YES, I'M  REALLY REGULATION PERSON AND I  KNOW IT'S MUCH EVERYBODY SUGAR  AND BUT THEY THERE'S REASON  SPORT TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING  IS FOLLOWED IN AND OPEN TO THE  PUBLIC TO BE ABLE TO REVIEW  EVEN IF THEY'RE NOT ON THAT  COMMITTEE. SO MAYBE THAT'S  SOMETHING TO EXPLORE AND  POSSIBLY INCORPORATE INTO THIS  PROCESS TO WITH LATER.  >> AND I KNEW. OK THANK VICE  MAYOR.  >> SO INTERESTING TO HEAR. MY  FELLOW COMMISSIONERS  PERSPECTIVE ON. WHAT THE BRAND  MIGHT AND HOW WE SHOULD BRAND  WHETHER WE'RE. OLD. COMMUNITY  THAT'S THAT'S YOU KNOW MANY OF  THE PEOPLE THAT IN CITY WOULD  LIKE US TO REMAIN. OR ARE WE  THE CITY OF GROWTH IN THE  STATE OF FLORIDA ARE WE THE  COMMUNITY UNITY A  RECOMBINATION OF ALL OF THEM  WILL BE VERY INTERESTING ISSUE  2 YOUR IT'S YOUR FOCUS GROUPS  AND AND ASHLEY SOLIS  PERSPECTIVE.  >> FROM ALL AROUND OUR CITY  INTERNALLY AND EXTERNALLY TO  SEE WHAT YOU COME UP WITH I'M  SURE THE LEVEL EXPERTISE YOU  AND YOUR DEPARTMENT HALF.  >> WHAT WILL COME UP WITH SOME  BE SOMETHING WE CAN BE REAL  PROUD OF SO LOOK FORWARD  THANKS.  >> ALL RIGHT. I'M NOT SEEING  ANY OTHER. LIGHTS SO DO WE  HAVE ANY.  >> EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO IF  WE THANK YOU. THANK DO WE HAVE  ANY PUBLIC COMMENT. SO THERE'S  NOTHING I HAD DURING THIS  MEETING AT 1049.