##VIDEO ID:Mlh0V3-o6-Q## [Music] 533 p.m. calling the October 21st meeting of the Board of Health to order um would you this is a hybrid meeting agenda um do you want to read the the reading yes P this meeting SL hearing of the Board of Health will be held in person at the location provided on this notice members of the public are welcome to attend this person meeting please note that while an option for remote attendance Andor participation via Zoom is being provided as a courtesy to the public the meeting SL hearing will not be suspended or terminated if technological problems interrupt the virtual broadcast unless otherwise required by law members of the public with particular interest in a specific item on this agenda should make plans for in person versus virtual attendance accordingly this meeting will be live on Zoom the public May access uh proceedings by joining Zoom meeting ID number 880 9915 1478 or by calling 301 715 8592 for additional information about remote participation please contact Samantha Beno administrative coordinator at SBO at air ma. us or 978 77282 2 extension 145 prior to the meeting thank you public input looks like it's going to be very quick tonight okay that takes care of the public thank you old business um H Reduction Program update so there are actually a just a couple of things going on with that so one is um that we've gotten email from Jenna that you guys may already know this the community health connections is the done what they need to do and they've like revised their their scope and so they're good to go to provide all the services so I did um tell her that we were going to just kind of discuss sort of high reduction things and you know the opioid stuff too in general so I think that we're still interested um they they still have some steps to go through they've got to pull out the old mou and you know they got to look at make sure everything's okay so while they're doing that I thought I would just bring it up quickly tonight so that everybody knows that it's kind of alive again and it's kind of working its way through the system right do you have anything more no just waiting we're just just waiting on it right yeah I so I think everybody remains on the same page yeah yeah exactly got the red light I don't see any changes on our no on our end I think they were fine with it okay so they've got to kind of go back to the you know looking at locations and you know whatever and her neck her um last email was that she's waiting for you know Board of Health and town manager so I think as far as Board of Health is concerned I can send her back a yeah response yep nothing has changed okay perfect and then the other thing that I just wanted to mention briefly was I had an email from her and it's kind of a related issue and it was about a matching grant for um nakan or Suboxone uh training and apparently it it's something that um looks like like it's another group that would be putting together the content but some of the local towns uh are talking about pooling their opioid money to do a nikan training and so I just responded back to her asking would this be like for Lay people because I think that would be valuable I think they've done the training for town hall right I think I think anybody anybody can yeah yeah trained I'm curious though did Jenna say suboxin training because that was from what I remember suboxin was only administered through certain health care providers because it is like a um a bridge kind of drug I don't know is that the um is that just the the whatever chemical name for um Naran no it's not no okay Naran is like the Nar is the the uh what anybody can administer it's an emergency so boxin from what I understood you get a prescription for it okay and there were only a few is it more like a um what was it you used to take every day uh like is it more like a methodone something like something like that oh okay it's it's an in place of something unless I'm wrong but I'm I think back in the day suboxin is similar to methodone it does not contain methodone it is a distinct drug right it's it's a step down to keep addicts from a partial opioid yeah to help fight the symptoms of a Dr so that wouldn't be something you'd be trained on but the Naran okay not sub what is naloxone naloxone is is that n can okay this is my brain is short circuiting they have similar ingredients right okay so it is n none so n can yes and that administered by anybody yeah and anybody can acquire it too right I think okay so what she said was have similar ingredients as the answer yeah that kind of makes sense for why it would you like work so so quickly so I had forwarded that email to you Trish because it one of the requirements is so let me go all the way back to where this first came up and I think you're on the whole chain of I didn't see it that's why I was wondering okay I can forward it to again because if I forward it again now you'll see like the whole chain okay so what she's saying is it's this group called Mosaic M Mo oh my God I cannot talk tonight Mosaic it's been a long Monday Mosaic Municipal matching grant program and it says program offers um matching grants up up to 500,000 per project um or 150,000 for joint Municipal collaborations to help address the opioid crisis so the deal here is for this matching Grant the municipal municipalities have to be using their uh opioid sell funds for it can't come from any other source of funding um we can use it for projects related to prevention H reduction treatment recovery trauma and family support so it's pretty broad um municipality could use funds to hire a recovery coach purchase High reduction supplies or support re-entry program um proof of Municipal support is required such as a budget discussion or commitment letter from a mayor or city manager deadline to apply is November 1st so that was the original um email that she sent out and then she followed up by saying and that kind of only went internally to um the nooba people so the one that I got was about a week ago and it looks like one of the um needs that came up was this Noone train so she's saying there's a potential to use the this matching grant money um I told her that we'll talk about it tonight said if your municipality is interested in participating so I know if we have to do that official statement of Interest through the opioid funds group or is it through Board of Health but I don't have any problem with it if if that makes sense as a thing to do I did tell her that I would kind of like to see this like be available to all residents or you know like open to the public not just for certain people yeah um and I said it would be nice to if it there was also some information on like how do you get El lockone where do you get it you know that kind of stuff so she just responded back the last um comment on this was she responded back saying that yep they usually do um include some kind of information like that um they had got some gotten some interest from other towns about doing this training for their emps and First Responders but I thought that was kind of strange because why wouldn't they be training their own staff they should be that so I I'm kind of interested in the lay person um part of it lay person training part so what do you want to do with this I can send her back an email tomorrow and I can copy you on it so everybody's kind of got it and I can copy Robert saying that I mean I don't think we're as a board opposed to that use of funding no we're not Oppo I don't think we're we should be opposed to it I think it's a good thing to put the spotlight on um because those conversations have kind of I haven't heard any any of that dialogue for quite a while okay okay it it would be valuable information for anybody to know where and I see how it could hurt and I I thought I saw I don't know if it was CVS or air Family Pharmacy a sign that said we do have I think I've seen those signs too and not necessarily the a but I think I have seen them and I know that um before I retired um the School nurses even had them yeah I'm I'm sure they do yeah for emergencies and like public buildings should have them did they do training for the library or does do you know if the library like stocks it or at least has it in there I wouldn't know now but when I was there no no okay yeah um Madam the chair sorry for being oh hey Steve hi Steve welcome hope you're okay thanks um so we were just talking about this um potential for uh none uh training and you know if Jenna can get something going with this whatever their name is Mosaic media yeah um so we were just saying that I mean I can just send her back an email saying yeah I mean we're we're definitely interested in participating it's not what you need us but is there is a deadline you said yeah she said that the Grant I that's what I need to verify with her is the if they're going to do this it's got to be a Grant application and she's saying that it has to go in by November 1st and that's where I'm hoping that that falls in her I was going to say I know nothing about writing for but I mean even the writing of a grant for that would that come that wouldn't come through Air Board of Health it would be it kind of sounds s like it would be that Mosaic yeah group or possibly NOA if I don't know if Bridget knows it feel free to but in Bridget if you know anything about it but so at this point we should probably reserve a spot for the more conversation about it send her back a response saying yeah we're interested what that other email that said um the Naran and she mentioned suboxen what was that was me I confused it I was going the lockone I know get that was totally me so that's what we're going to focus on is is getting having access to sounds like she's kind of saying hey this is like a quick use of the this is something that's pretty easy to pull together it can be done quickly if we have a couple of towns pool on it so it might be just a matter of asking her what like what do you need for official support and it's not like an epip pen it's not as intensive training as that like you know I I think it's it's something really simple and um just make it accessible Steve your comment Y most nxone is given nasally nowadays right um on the home front it's not even given as a as an IV drug right there's a nasal adapt that goes on it and it's given nasally yeah it's it's much easier than people used to think it was like an epip pen but it's not it's Nas my son was trained on it was he oh good yeah so I guess right now we just have to say yes we want to know more and we would be on board for something like that yeah I don't know if we meet again before the first I don't think we do and that might be when she needs to have everything in so I just kind of want to make sure that the board is on on board with telling her that yeah we certainly would if they need a letter of support or interest or Steve did you get the first part of that conversation what's that did you get the first part of that conversation when PM read that about Mosaic um I didn't but I think I'm pretty familiar with okay yeah this was the it's the no oxone training yeah thing and then just prior to that Steve then the other thing that you might have mixed missed is that I just mentioned that we do have an email that um CHC is they've made the changes that they need to make to their chatter or bylaws or whatever so that they can participate in the h reduction M so Jenna is going through this cycle now of going back and checking to make sure that Theus are you know no changes to the m us no changes to anybody's support and so on so that they can kind of get it back rolling again so that was the other piece of uh High reduction that we talked about okay all righty all right I will um circle around with Jenna on that one then next thing we got is fees as Sam kindly reminds us every year that we say that we set tobacco permits and trash all fees oh gosh it's that lovely time of year yeah for that time again uh so tobacco fees currently sit at $200 a permit uh trash haulers are $100 okay right no it's the other way around sorry it's $10000 for oh yeah it's 200 for trash hollers 100 for tobacco okay I okay all right so tobacco is that actually makes more sense to me because it seems like we have more footwork to do on the trash Hall yeah than on the tobacco um any discussion from anyone anyone interested in raising or lowering fees or what if there was discussion about raising or lowering it has to do with how much work is involved and that seems to be your piece of it I mean it seems should we look at other towns or do we I looked before we're in we're in right in that I to recall the last time we did this yeah we're in the middle um leave it alone our tobacco might be on the sco low side um but there are some towns that only charge $15 for a tobacco permit so holy well but we have more I think like versus like hybrid or I mean we have we have more we have more so um yeah so we're a sco on the low side but not terribly I will say I checked the tobacco several months ago and most towns haven't updated their fees in like yeah eight years so we're actually ahead of the game trash haulers there's a lot of hunting in those end up spending a lot of time going will you do this can you please yeah but are we in the same ballpark as other towns or I couldn't find fees lot don't license the same way we do yeah yeah so I tried to get info I talked to other boards of Health but they didn't have any yeah didn't have anything for they didn't have anything solid um Madam chair sure can we get any towns to let us know what you we had three or four towns to look and see if we're in the ballpark I guess my concern though is that if we raise the rates all they're going to do is raise the price to the people true so I think we need to be cognizant of that that whatever we do it's going to flow right back to the consumer absolutely yeah yeah and I kind of I like the fact that the at least the magnitude of them it's kind of in line with there there is a lot of chasing for the trash Hall is not so much I would say Let's either I mean I'm open to either keeping them the same for another year or the other option is we could um table it until the November meeting and then so all their a look at the only thing with that is all their permits expire at the end of December so I want to send them their paperwork H what do you guys feel like doing want to keep it the same this I I think as long as it's comparable around and and Steve had a good point you know it does get passed on to the consumer I think maybe it's something we shouldn't at right now I mean and for the tobacco that was easier to find the trash haulers it's very our regulation's a little different in I might be because we have a transfer station I'm not sure oh okay um right I'm not really sure what changed that but that was harder to find but yeah I mean we're right Middle Ground I found some as low as 15 and some as high as 400 for a tobacco permit so wow that is quite ring yeah well given that does anybody feel like making a motion about I I I'll make a motion uh Steve did you have something to add I I just wanted to know when's the last time that the rates were adjusted um or we actually looked at the rates has it been like within the last five years yeah we looked I know that we looked at the rates last year the to has the tra huler R been around how long has that been around wow 2015 we've had it for that long wow um I know that the tobacco I feel like we just visited that because Joan was on a couple of meetings with us yeah yeah I know that we looked at tobacco within the last year I'm not sure on the trash if we did do you know if the trash hul um fee has ever gone up Sam I don't know because the RS just say you'll I'll do it I'd have to dig through all the old paperwork okay yeah gotcha since I've been here it's been 200 um and I think Heather pretty much remembers it being 200 I don't think it's changed in any okay yeah it probably has not changed Steve in a while should we wait till November Madam chair and see if we can get some idea of what other towns are paying I me we could be way out of fa on this I or we could be right in the middle I have no idea yeah that's the one that Sam is saying that it it's um starts to get laid on that one because all of their permits expire at the end of December December yeah and it was hard to like the tobacco um fees tend to be published on the website it's more so than trash yeah I don't so we might have some difficulty getting I'm just looking to see if I have anything in my notes about rates being Chang well and then when would the November meeting be restri um no I don't have anything here well if they're pretty much comparable to the other towns Sam yeah then unless it's a a you know you're the one that has to do all this that's what I mean but yeah um if you want to leave it alone till next I think at this point if we need to get people there um their renewals yeah I would maybe just kind of make a mental note to Let's between now yeah between now and next year let let's follow up but yeah yeah and try to and try to get some better numbers on the trash hauler ones I can see where that one could be difficult cuz I know that rig was really kind of unique to what you're situation was yeah um I mean if we wanted to wait until November um our November meetings are the 11th and the 25th so then our next one is the 25th November yeah but we were I thought we were going to do the um talk about doing the middle yeah which would then bring us to the 18th I thought the no we can't did you say November 11th that's Veterans Day yes it's day that's why we oh I see I see yeah yeah okay um well Madam chair I'm I'm in favor of whatever you'd like to do but I I can't see why we couldn't call three or four of our neighboring towns and ask them if they would share what the rates are you know looking at maybe Shirley Littleton Groton Harvard peil I can just to get a ballpark we don't even know if we're in the I can share I have a chart I think I have I did all the nooba towns I have 15 towns with their tobacco and I tried to get trash haulers a lot of them don't do trash hollers trash yeah the trash was different the tobacco I feel a little bit better about us being kind of in the middle of the pack on that one do you recall at all what the numbers were for for the the few data points that you got in trash cuz not the trash is um I did it like four months ago ah yeah yeah um when do you send out the renewals for trash usually November 1st okay so I give them all a November so then I can get you a second notice at the end of November so I can hunt them down from December there was a lot of them that weren't very good yeah you know I think in the interest of getting people's things processed in in time rather than you know we might pick up us if we do increase it it would be a small amount of money let's look at them for for next and I can pull up the whole chart I had and go back through I called quite a few Boards of Health to get their numbers cuz I also was looking for um what do they charge for animal and fowl permits and a lot of them don't have those either oh yeah I would like to get a comparison for I can just for a I can update that so in the meantime we're tabling it till we either table till November or we vote tonight to um keep them the same for one more year I think I would kind of I would lean on the side of the ladder just so that we can get because we table it till November because look what Sam just told us happens Steve anyone want to make a motion Steve do you have any I no I I think you've got time but like I said I'm not going to be an obstructionist if you know you guys want to do it now then that's fine I know in previous years there's been people that haven't even attemped the renewals by March right last year that's yeah that's you got you've got two months um even if November the 11th it's plenty of time you know because you'll make a decision that night and then the notices can go out the next day um um but that doesn't mean you're going to get them back anytime any sooner right right um and well it would be the 18th cuz November 11th's a holiday Che whatever the dates are I'm just saying that the people that are interested will turn them around right away and you'll have them by the beginning of the year and the people that you have to chase will be the people you have to chase either way it doesn't make any difference that's true I just I'd hate to see that we're nowhere in the ballpark in terms of what the trash hauling permits are because no matter what we do it doesn't mean that they're not already raising the prices to the consumer anyhow true yeah I can vouch for that all right I me on table are we being are we being fair and is the town being equitably yeah reimbursed for this and you know there's been no one that said that the town of air is too expensive for a trash hollers permit it seems like they all participate in the town of air yeah so that makes me concerned that someone's saying um we're going to leave here I just think we should charge a fair rate that's all I all right so we're re let's get things ready to go then for the um like for right after the 18th and we can just plug in whatever the number is try get them out then so we're going to table to the 18th and try to get some more points so I make a motion that we're going to table the discussion for the trash hauler um rates until the next and tobacco yeah and tobacco okay for um the next Board of Health meeting on um November 18th okay I second motion oh there we go all in favor I I okay um is that something Madam chair that that Samantha can contact the towns to see and would the trash haulers themselves share the rights from the other towns it's not confidential information yeah it's possible I can try and contact them yeah that's possible I can try um I wonder also um do you remember Irene Condon from um oh God what department is she from it's not the state DPW it's the it's the state the department of the state that deals with um trash hollers and stuff she had a ton of information for us on different things but I don't know she may have retired or not even being I will have I can look to see what that position is on on mass. what what would it be the label I mean what would the department be called I don't like what department is in charge of who's in charge of trash I don't know who's in charge of trash I might be able to find it in like my notes yeah I can't find anything with her what it was Irene Condon con con oh remember that name now because of the way it was spelled yeah she's a i conen yeah oh okay I don't have no I don't have anything a l but um you might come across some stuff for her in the like archive I will have to dig through those old files I don't know why I'm blanking out on the maybe it's Environmental Protection it might be either Environmental Protection or something underneath Environmental Protection I'll dig oh Mass D Municipal assistant coordinator for the central region Solid Waste options boy that sounds that sounds official about right all right um monachus at Regional comes through no I just Googled her name and these few things came up Solid Waste options but this is Princeton Mass she was really helpful she had kind of a regional um oversight position or Regional you know coordinator position and had a lot of info to help us get started when we first did the um it's on the air was on the air mass D recycling coordination Irene conden conden yeah if she's not in that I know something changed with her something stands out in my memory that changed with her so if she's not the right person anymore she's very nice I'm sure she can perfect I can look for in the right direction yeah she's mentioned in a couple of different towns but that's the same title so because it's kind it's a regional kind of thing yeah okay all right I can see if she's still around yeah just another possible source so okay so we will follow up then on that one next week um nishoba so that finishes us up with fees Bri anything going on with nishoba or do we have any nishoba materials to review so we're in the middle of relicensing yep and um all the permits expire at the end of October so uh we're going to email them over to you once they're all um issued and other than that it's just we've been doing food inspections we did hire another part-time inspector her name is Megan so she's been out doing food inspections um in the area but other than that it's just we do have some septic stuff coming down the pike um applications for testing M so um but that's it okay okay good all right that sounds like no problems so that sounds like a good thing yeah talk on wood yeah so far so good um yeah and neither Trish nor I could get in to we were both trying to get into the um meeting Thea quarterly meeting on Thursday but really yeah but neither one of us could I think we had both not replied and you know gotten hooked up with our invitations in time was probably part of what was going on there but do you know was there anything from that Bridget that um I have not seen the minutes from that meeting yet okay all right all right okay we we'll get a copy anyways yeah we will so yes okay all right thank you thanks Bridget Madam chair yes you're welcome um question for Bridget that meeting last week was very abruptly called I got the notice of it I think a day or two before the meeting actually happened and that could have been the mail I'm not faulting any anybody but it sounds to me like MOBA hired a new auditing firm is that correct Bridget I I I don't want to misspeak Steve I think what happened was the old one might have either was on the agenda like they retired or something so they had to get a new a new one I I I think I think that is what happened um is there a report that we can get saying what the audited results were or there any recommendations from the Auditors I again don't want to missp um but I believe that came from the meeting before so I can see if those minutes are out um and if Jim can send that to you or if Sharon has them yeah generally an auditor issues a report of findings and any recommendations for changes yes and it's usually a separate report not part of the minutes but it would be uh you know like an audited financial report and I would be curious to see what the Auditors had to say and you know sometimes they'll issue an interim report um before they issue their final but you know as a member Town I'd like to see what they're saying about the um the audit from the Sha or of the I can send Jim um a message or if yeah if you send Jim a message would you C see me on it and yeah I mean I don't know Steve did you want to maybe send it to him because you know exactly what you're asking for or I I I could do that I just I would think that the board not just me should be able to see what the Auditors said because we're the ones that sign for the town of air and you know if there's any irregularities which I doubt if there is but we should be aware of that that I think that falls under our fiduciary responsibility let me right and I I just want to see Steve what information I got with the original invitation I almost want to say that I think there was it's not an audit report then a summary there's the auditor's letter letter the his report the only thing the only thing that I got was one piece of paper and an envelope and pce I had print on one side of it saying that there was a special meeting being called oh you're talking about the H copy mail gotcha gotcha yeah that's all that's all that I received so I I report that's the one I got I don't know what the finding of the AES were but I certainly I think I you know for fulfilling my obligation I should know what that's yeah I got you I think that is all um I'll forward this to you see there's a letter from the auditor there's the actual Auditor's report um I'm just looking at the documents that came with Jim's notification yeah there's the there's the cover letter there's also so Pam I haven't seen any of that okay yeah I see that you're not copied on it I will forward you this stuff let's start with that y that sounds good okay all right are you good with that Steve for now because I don't know what it saids yeah it'll give me a start anyway and then if you need something else can you just let me know and I can send an email to Jim and copy the board yeah sure um like usually a final report from the Auditors I'd like to see what that says yeah I think I got that I think that's in this email I think you're going to be good I'll send it okay okay thank you m all right um reg we have regulations on and I know it's kind of a tough time to get back into regulations again but I just kind of didn't want to completely drop of off of our radar have you Sam done another um iteration of this or is this one that I made that's one you made this is the one that I made okay have have you done another um not since um but if I I can tell you who we've done and who we haven't yeah tell me what we have body I know that we said was okay I just didn't record the dates of these things um I feel like we just we did body art recently that one's all that one and we did that one the wood burning so we yeah we did body art in J January 22nd 24 and we got rid of the wood burning that's yeah I don't remember when but shortly in that time frame okay then we T and Bridget was at that meting meeting I think we talked about drains um drains and Wells drains and Wells yeah so that was but Bridget is there are you aware of anything um new with the I know that you said the private well um Reg has to be updated with there's some new stuff for the state there for that and the title 5 supplemental do you know in the floor drains if we're okay I think we're okay with the floor drains I think think what we might want to consider with the um well regulations is redoing those and then potentially um adding if because most of air is Town water yeah but some people you know for whatever reason they want to put in a well to avoid paying for Town water um and do we want to just make it mandatory that um you test for past in air just because of the history um you know so those are things I think we should look at with the well regulations yeah got you is there anything in the current like at the state level regulation right now for PS on Wells or is it just public water so you um what what we've been doing in some towns is um we'll require it if the if our well regulations allow for it in areas of known contamination Okay so we kind of have a template for what somebody so I think your regulations read um pretty similar so if there's an area of non contamination you can um do the testing okay but right my dog is trying to eat my food so I think it might be worthwhile for for air to add that in gotcha okay um um can you take a look at do you think that between now and the November one you can just take a look at there's the well moratorium and the private Wells and the title five supplemental rules are the three regulations all around this I I don't know if all of them need to change or is it only the like private well one what I want to do is um there are some towns around us that are changing their their well regulations rather than reinvent the wheel um look at them okay because we really don't have a lot of of wells in there yeah I got you I know I know but just look at what um the new regulations that that people are adopting and kind of okay just maybe just adopt those mhm so we making an amendment to parts of that PM or would it be I don't know I guess we would have to look at the the way the new ones are coming out and what's written in the old ones is this um Bridget is your take on this that like this is a is this a good time to look at them or are things kind of inlux because of P CU if that's the case we could try to pick off one of the other ones like um the animal rigs we could I mean at least do another review of it so solid ways did we review and reaffirm that one or no nope okay we've only reaffirmed the body art we added the motel hotel right we have that remember that and then we got rid of the wood burning boil wood burning is gone um because we could if the I know that there's a lot of stuff coming out in the news about P lately so if that is kind of changing on the regulatory landscape like you say we're not a town that really relies on well so I'm not feeling that it's like we need to jump on it immediately um maybe we should look at I could look at animals yeah um for sure I have I have a couple of things for the animal okay good um so I can send you those um just a few things I've run into as I'm doing what was the date on the last look see on that animals yeah it looks like 20 19 actually but there's just a few things that as things have come up um like and if you're getting a permit for the first time you need to get a certified AB Butters list in case we ever want to do a hearing but if say we have to do a hearing five years down the line yeah your abutters are not necessarily the same people right okay um so there's that um and then it says you get the list of a Butters but what do you do with it is it for us to do a hearing are you supposed to send a letter to your neighbors so we have some loose ends some loose ends um there is also the enforcement section like we have fines and Fe but it doesn't specify who can write that okay all right I got you send me what you have for not and I'll look at that one and see if I can do anything to Red Line that one I can give Julie a call to yeah I was gonna say for fines and fees would that fall all of it fall on Julie or is that something that yeah I mean I think that's how we've kind of been doing I mean that's in the one situation where we had to we kind of did that so yeah maybe now's the time to kind of all right I'll do that I'll do that one black and white animals yeah I will look at animals for the I'll have an update for animals on the next one and um Bridget if you have any time and you want to look at for floor drains feel free 2012 I don't know if things change that quickly in the world of floor drains but I've just been feeling for a long time like that's when we should be able to talk I'll take a look at them okay and if she lets me know before the meeting I can set it up so you can just knock it out all right okay that would be great yeah because that one may not I who knows maybe maybe there are new things and then BL Dreams yeah uh yeah and then let's talk about then what to do with the um that'll give you Bridget a little bit of time to like look at the P stuff and kind of give us an idea of what if we should do you know if there are like new regulations coming out or if there are changes to something so usually like if D comes out with something like for aric for example that changes on their level so it really doesn't affect our regulations because yeah we use their standard okay you know what I'm saying so um but I'll look at both the floor brains and the um okay yeah well regulation yeah we don't have to have them done for the next time just if there's anything that you're seeing in there that you think we need to um change anything that you want to discuss for potential changes yeah that would be a good one for for the next meeting okay okay all right put me down for flam but I mean this is relatively easy as far as doing it because you're you're not changing the whole regulation you're just typing in a little amended yeah it shouldn't be that bad and it's same thing for Animals over the summer I did start looking at some other towns for animals and seeing what was in our rigs versus those and we were're not really drastically out of whack I didn't so on that so that could be a good one too to just kind of clean up like you said make it more user friendly yeah okay all right unless anyone else is dying to volunteer to review a regulation looking at you Steve can re we can review them review them online but I mean it like I said it's not that much of an amendment yeah yeah I process itself right yeah yeah I don't think it's going to be that bad we've got the word versions and we can just do backups and yeah okay all right um we okay with regulations then have we exhausted that for the next meeting topic yeah okay um in that case I think the things that look new were we had a complaint a complaint about Joan Hamlet yes we did what what that sounds interesting what on Earth was that all about it was a gentleman he obviously didn't want to leave his name um he was complaining I guess Joan has been as you know Tobacco Control has been going around to some boards of Health to have them update their tobacco rags to ban a different item not sure what it is um he's very upset um he was asking a lot of questions about what Tobacco Control was is it a state agency how was Joan paid at which point I got I don't I don't know oh my um the upshot of the conversation was uh the item she's trying to ban is one he likes oh gotcha okay so it was one of those by you know after 10 minutes um it was okay I I understand sir um but he was very fired up um and he said he called multiple Boards of Health about it so was he a a li did he hold a license no he likes chewing tobacco oh okay all right so he's a customer he's a customer who's upset about this and he did have a lot of questions about how Tobacco Control is set up and what they do which I I don't I can't answer that yeah I'm not entirely no myself um but so I did tell Bridget and I did contact Joan just so you know that there's someone who's um I I called originally to see if she'd heard anything about it and then I I contacted sure that was a typo but yeah so you gave Joan a heads up and I gave and she knew about it I think the things that she wants to ban are pretty cut and dried in yeah that was especially that one that's yeah that's a I'll ask her what data shows yeah next time I talk her I'll find it was an odd conversation um it's not is it a new product that all of a sudden I'm not sure he wasn't after after several minutes I sort of tried to okay get to the point um I did get at one point uh you do know this stuff causes cancer I'm like yes I do sir so okay okay yep we're up on that okay so yeah that was about it and then than uh the usual of you you want to show up up please their phone number one exactly exactly um the health concern that went to uh Tamara yeah okay I sent that to her okay all right so I think then we're okay for call unless hasn't been my board members have any questions or comments there were just those two new ones yeah there's really only a few new ones everything else is kind of the same as it's been yeah the usual mhm yeah okay um so then we have minutes so we have minutes from two meetings we have the July 18th um we didn't meet at 10:00 a.m. yes you did we did you had executive session first that was at 10 a.m. it was it for several no kidding went for a couple hours I wasn't here was I no I wasn't there holy cow no I was it's it says I was here I'm trying to say it long yeah you seconded something you must have been here 10 a.m. it seemed so long ago all right if you say so oh yes okay yes this me yeah yep because I'm looking at the attendees yep yeah I see what you're say yeah that wasn't an e evening thing no that was first wow all right then so I did read those that was actually the only comment I had was about the time I don't remember it being yeah it was I wasn't obviously I wasn't there but holy mackerel I did check the agenda and then the other minutes were from September 9th y so um anyone have have you guys had a chance to review minutes is anyone in the B I'm still the the one at the one in July was a little bit more in depth than that one so I just wanted to yeah that one quickly make sure that um that we've got it right yeah I don't want anything to come back I was giving that one an extra too yeah yeah um it does look like it's exactly what we talked about so yeah and the reinspection report then gets attached and then um what happens Sam with the information that the attorney provided it was like their their plan for what um they going to do does that get tied into this I don't anyway I think so I that just comes in as communication for the meeting right I think so yeah I I'd have to double check I didn't I didn't write these so yeah we go back to yes cuz Robert was here and he took the meeting he took the minutes yeah um not that your minutes aren't great but I know that was there very yeah he was very accurate um just our usual meetings are this well yeah you have yeah you could but this one had a lot of it was a well attended yeah it okay yeah so it came think something so well that's okay because we didn't really um I I just noticed that in here we refer to it uh where did I see that which page chair yes um I haven't seen the minutes so I'm just going to abstain in any conversation I don't have copies of them so oh gotcha I I can okay yeah all right I got you um let's see what page you on Pam I'm on page five but I'm not sure that's where it was H I knew I should have underlined this says something about like the plan or something I just wanted to make sure that we have that I don't find it Well real quick yeah no I want I want to make sure that yeah yeah okay so I asked for a written plan with timing and the stuff with the permit ah PE a reference the remediation plan provided by is that page B that's on page three okay so I just wanted to see what since just because we're referring to it here I want to make sure that it's clear what it is we're referring to let's see that must have been this must have come in before this right this was on the 18 okay and this is okay here's the resume for her consultant sunquist yeah I'll get that CV in here what else came in though on that date I guess that is kind of my only question is that what exactly we referring to there I'm not sure now if it was a separate document or if it was forwarding I think it might have just been the forwarded what line email from her attorney so it's um on page three there's this 56789 and then right below 9 see I referenced the remediation plan y provided by attorney Burke so um but the remediation plan was yeah I I wasn't clear are we talking about mold remediation because she didn't really submit a remediation plan um oh this is a reinspection report that they refer to on the front page that's not the same yeah um no that's not it so it's just this thing um so um so what do you guys think about that I'm just not sure if that needs to be somehow clarified what what remediation plan are we talking about I can you know should have to vote on it we can wait until next time and I can see what I can find yeah I talk to Robert clarify that because then Steve will have time to yeah have reviewed it first because there's a couple of possibilities of things there's an email that was forwarded okay I will um from her attorney that you know got forwarded by Janelle right I think that's the one that we're talking about I think it's the stuff that's in the forwarded um email but so I just kind of want to make sure what document we're referring to I'll see what Robert has to say and I'll dig some stuff out all right so how do we do uh then I think with this one we're just not going to not table it until next yeah we're just going to table it to get more clarification do we need to make NOP just table it okay yeah but we can do the ones from September 9th okay those were a little less complicated they are yeah yeah this was mostly the conversations about um the hospital and uh things like that yeah a little bit about the food trucks and the food trucks yeah Triple E spr okay so um I'll make a motion to um accept them minutes from uh Monday September 9th Board of Health meeting okay anybody want a second he doesn't have a copy in front of him oh that's right he already said he was going to sustain uh oh no he he can you don't have the ones for September 9th even I don't have any you don't have any of them oh all right okay I got you okay so one of us is abstaining I will second okay your motion all in favor I I okay two eyes one abstain here we go and just for the record we're tabling that yeah yeah okay I'll hold it for the next meeting there we Go's done administrative matters what do we have administrator um we have any bills or I have no bills good I have no mail anybody anything good nobody's trying to contact us I love it um so yeah I have no bills I have no mail okay um meeting dates and was the next thing meeting yeah you guys want to talk about meeting dates for um so we already talked a little bit about no November so we get kind of sandwiched as usual in November and December so the 11th we should be meeting the 11th and the 25th the 11th is Veterans Day the 25th is Thanksgiving week but we could do the 18th if you guys are available well I you feel I've been writing down the 18th to this whole Mee for everything else so I don't know Steve the the 18th November 18th November 18th sounds good to me okay that is in the 25th yeah I guess so just that one meeting y so then just that one and then we go to December we have we have those right have a similar not really exactly the same but so December we're on for the 9th and then the 23rd yes so the options there are we can stay with the ninth um or we could do the 16th or maybe what we should do is say well let stay with the night right now and kind of see what happens and then we can decide if it looks like we're only going to need one meeting that month and we could push the 9th to the 16th and yeah just call it a one I like the flexibility of that because that way if there's not a lot to be discussed I mean why are we yeah okay then let's stay keep us on for theth next regularly scheduled and we'll pack that one yeah yeah cuz in December is when I'm going to get all the permits in need signatures right right so we might need to do need to do something yeah might need to do even if it's just a signing meeting okay so we have 129 and the backup mhm is 12 16 oh 16 not 23 okay yeah well the next regularly scheduled would be the 23rd but if we push the 9th to the okay yeah so we'll do the nth and then we'll decide the rest of them and we said what were we going to do for November the 18th 18th or something right all right perfect okay I think that's the size of it mm anything else from anybody think that's Madam chair motion to adjourn I second all in favor I I we are ajour okay thank you