##VIDEO ID:dPp234N2wbo## record we ready to rock and roll we are on the record Mr chairman accordance with open public meetings act please note follow okay meetings are being held in person at Meeting Hall on the second floor 166 com questions to attend meetings in person notice of the changes result email news and news by posting a copy of B board Hall the website fin C mpal clerk call on March 13th 202 the board not any matter past 11: pm. any regular special meeting the board motion have the members then present to extend to a later specified cut off time and same shall announce the opening each meeting members of the public May participate in meetings at certain Den times as announced by the board chair members of the public will be committed to appli and their experts have questions appropriate Point invited to do so any hearing conducted by the board is inqu a Judicial proceeding any questions or comments most the issue consider reaching a decision the must main call yes Mr chairman Mr delusa here Mr Green here Mr framer is absent M Le is absent Mr McDow here Mr Mala here Mr sard is absent Mr slum here and Mr trainer is absent you have a quum chairman cool all right so we have meeting minutes from the expence does anybody have any addics or collections anybody [Music] meaning I will make a motion to approve the meeting minutes from what is it May 20 yes please second all in favor I minut are oppos minutes are approved we have minutes [Music] from uh June 3r I'll make a motion to approve those minut second in favor I oppos are approved okay Communications we do have a planner and the other thing that I will mention is that I heard from Diana yesterday actually um her husband had heart replacement and he is doing very well well that's why she is that's that's kind of a big deal Rich has been here but I don't know vacation seem to be doing so on to resolutions for adoption we have the two star application some questions on dimensional issues with this resolution what was printed and what was the applicant had corrected it to and had some some changes so all that was resolved we now have the final numbers in this resolution so whereas an application for dimensional approval has been filed by tar here the the verv only adjustment here board for property located at 40 turbo Lane bville New Jersey more specifically known as lot four lot one of the tax bur bville here bur sumers County New Jersey was set being use being in permitted use in the r110 residential Zone district and whereas the public hearing was held before the board on April 1 2024 with regard its application and where the board has heard the testimony evidence presented by the applicant Witnesses consultant and with the public having had a full opportunity to participate and whereas the applicant filed an affid approv the publication and notes the hearing was given as required by mj-12 and whereas complete application has been filed the fees required by ordinance been paid it otherwise appears power the board has properly exercise and now therefore building board adjustment bille County Sun State of Jersey on third day of June 2024 on the E day of a yes fifth day August 2024 made the following findings and conclusions regard to the application one the applicant provided adequate notice of the application and hearing in accordance with statute two the representative s regard this application three based upon the application variance PL survey FL plans architect plans a photographs letter reports and orir board B Consultants and testimony evidence provided at the hearing appear the applicant is seeking to varant seeking varant order demolish an existing bar/ stable and construct a new structure on the existing foundation for as previously stated the property located 110 residential Zone District where current propos use of property gritted sub property is in a regularly shaped located intersection turn L and drive Road property has a lot Frontage at 1,367 FT on turn Lan and 464 ft Frontage on Drive road and contains a lot area of 41 4 4,2 26 ft or 9.4 Acres property is developed with an existing 2 and half story residential dwelling a 2 and half story Barn tennis courts Associated improvements and various outcome the property served by septic at well and is located in an area characterized by single family residen the applicant proposes to demolish the existing bar stable which includes a residential apartment and construct a new structure that would include a 4 Bay garage a greenhouse and and an office on the upper level and storage and Mechanicals on the lower level the plan indicates new structure will be built on the same Foundation as the bar five review the application documents test the requires the following dimensional percent njsa 45-70 c a maximum impervious coverage maximum Pur maximum permitted imp Pur coverage for this property is 27416 ft and the app based on various plans revised to March 8 2024 proposing in coverage 4139 ft currently based on the same plan being Pur coverage is 48450 Ft so there will be a reduction six it should be noted that the subject property was part of a lock line adjustment approved by the planning board June 2015 apparently equal land area was transferred between lot one and lot three and block four the impervious surfaces listed on current VAR plan add up to 48450 Ft it would appear the largest contribut to the difference in impious surface between 2015 and the present is the gravel driveway and large pav area in front of an existing Barn these impervious surfaces were not shown on the 2015 L adjustment man current plan also indicated four sheds and a chicken cou which were not on the 2015 plan there were apparently other less significant differences between 2015 the 2015 plan what now exists seven Gregory T the owner of the sov property been testified on behalf of the application Mr T in Bur 24 years and started the restoration of the barn PR 2 years ago indicated board bar is not structurally sound over the foundation appears to stated that the first phase of this Property Restoration would involve the barn and the second phase will involve renovations to the single family house at a later time a John Bey licensed architect testified half the application Mr Bey discussed the barn structure and stated there is an apartment in the barn together with Stables what is now being is the removal of bar St structure and on the safe found footprint construction structure which would contain a four car garage and office and Greenhouse first floor and storage mechanical on the lower floor the only change in footprint will be a mod stoop in order to gain access to the proposed office the stoop will be located to the left of the proposed garage doors the roof will be at a maximum height of 32 8 in which would be slightly lower than what currently exists nine Paul Fox a licensed engineer testified behalf of the application this Pro discussed to be Pur coverage aspect of the this application referred to letter report of Robert rley dated October 3023 Mr confirmed that part that part of the gravel driveway will be removed in order to Su less coverage on the site the witness commented that the new that a new SE system will be installed on subject property and still controls and drive are proposed instructure installs in accordance with report of the board engineering all other aspects of the engineering engine report will complied with as well and plans will be revised accordingly the witness also indicated the size of proposed Barn structure will be approximately 3600 ft 10 John Peele a LIC land use planner cut of the cap the application review vars involved involving imperious coverage and indicated that although minor there will be a slight reduction in imperious coverage over what now current lead six it would be stated that none of the proposed construction will take place in any environmental environmentally sensitive areas and that no existing dial deficiencies will be aggravated the stated that the general welfare criteria of NJ 4 id-2 sub paragraph c e i and J were in his professional opinion satisfied and there would be no substantial negative impacts in the neighborhood zoning ordinance or master plan given the fact that the subject property permitted in itself was being enhanced by this application and would continue to be consistent with other residential in the area 11 no members of the public commented either in favor of or oppos to do the appliation inclusions of law whereas pursuit of Miss bl's law specifically njf 44 5-7 C1 and 2 the board May Grant relief in strict application of any zoning regulation where because of conditions specifically affecting pce of property is set forth in the statute the strict application of such regulation would result in peuli exceptional practical difficulties to or exceptional unique undue parship upon the developer of such property or where the purposes of Mr M's law is set forth at njsa 4 d-2 would be Advanced by deviation from the zoning ordinance requirements to benefit of such deviation would substantially outweigh any DET based upon the testimony evidence presented the board finds that the applicant has met the requirements for the granting of VAR Rel maximum Pur coverage of the proposed project the revised plans for the garage property appear appropriate reasonable and attracted from reviewing the testimony and plans report is OFW propos structure which will include a four big garage a greenhouse and office on the upper level and with storage and Mechanicals on the lower level will be a very positive addition to the subject property and will be while buffered in terms of visibility and whereas in order to Grant rental varage relief njsa 4-7 requires that no other VAR or other relief may be granted without assuring that such variance or other relief can be granted without substantial V the public good will not substanti imparity had purpose plan and hison Order disregard for the opinion that thec has met this burden for the reason set forth in this in the body of this resolution and has testified to during the hearing and as commented upon by the board specifically the proposed bar construction should be considered could be considered a normal and customary Improvement to a single family resident in this neighborhood and will continue to blend Mo with the out residential structure the impervious L coverage will be SLP less than what now exists and the result will be a tracked W accessory structure to this GL now therefore be a result having reviewed the application and considered the impact of proposal on bur and its residents and having determined whether the proposal is in furtherance of M use law njsa 4-2 and the law of whether the proposal is conducive to your early development of the site down area which is located cost has been show gral vared by the the res by the Zoning Board of adustment of bur ber County suers state of New Jersey on on the 5th day of August 2024 on the appropriate motion made and seconded that the application of ver two Serv granted subject to the following terms and conditions one the appli shall be bounded by the testimony plan submitted with its application however the plans in that the plans need to be revised pursuit of the recommendations com to the board and the board consultant same shall be promptly completed and submitted to the board two the request of dienal variant for Max impervious coverage is granted for the reason set forth in this resolution three except for specifically Modified by this resolution the app shall be found by the recommendations contained all letter report to memorandum of the board consultants and board advisory committees for prior to the issuance of any permit The Zing officer and board engineer shall review all plans submitted by the app five be no significant changes plans unless approved by the board six as agreed to by the app a Crest shaped portion of the existing pave driveway to the east of the bar roly 30 ft shall also be removed and remain perous s with regard to the revised plans these plans shall incorporate all of the comments as set forth in the letter report from for engineer dated October 30 2023 including wire controls specifically compensate for the increase in inov surfaces 2015 the roof runoff from the new wire shall be directed to Wells or similar swm measures subject to the review and approval of Bo engineer a the app Shel payment of all real estate taxes for the property nine the appli shall pay in a timely manner all outstanding and future fees and escort charges and shall post all performance manance guarantees in connection with the review of this application prior sub an approval this application T the applicant shall be responsible for the obtaining of any other approvals ORS from other governmental agencies that may be required by law and the app shall comply with all requirements or conditions of such approval for perit including theity to the municipality compliance with any low modate housing regulations if however compliance with other conditions result differ from the one approved by the board here in the app shall return to the board for all appropriate R 11 priority issu of a building permit app shall find submit final variance plans if necessary containing all the required additions and Corrections for review and approved by the B burrow engineer when so approved app shall file six copies of final plans with the B engineer for Signature and transmission of the board's administrative officer 12 the app sh obtain stor Water Management review approval from the B engineer 13 the app which shall be found by all exhibits introduced all representations made all teson given before the board at its meeting of April 1 2024 okay one comment for me um swm in requirement number seven let's not abbreviate things okay um we know it's storm water management but we should spell that out okay so that it is just completely obvious we have the DAT Su yeah [Music] MH does anybody else have any changes to this resolution H motion all make a motion to approve with the changes that were discussed yeah let's make sure that oh wait a minute I'm sorry you are not help I retract my motion [Music] thank you okay roll call please Mr delar rusa yes Mr greenbound yes Mr M yes the motion carries okay and then we have the arresting variant again we have Ed Tom and Mark on this whereas an application for dimensional VAR approval has been filed by Wendy arrest here the to the B property located 41 Washington Road BV New Jersey and more speically known as 19 tax burville here and after designated bur s County New Jersey was said being R use r110 res Z own district and whereas the public hearing was held before the board on May 20th 2024 with regard to its application whereas the board has heard the Tes the evidence presented by the applicant withes consultants and with the public having had a full opportunity to participate whereas the applicant fil and after of proof that publication noce the hearing was given as required by njs 45-12 and whereas a complete application has been filed the frees required by ordinance pay it otherwise appears juros board have been properly invoked in exercise and now therefore be resol Board of stadi New Jersey on the 5th day of August 2024 made the following findings conclusions regarding the application one the applicant provided adequate notice the application and hearing in accordance to statute two the applicant was represented by John bills Esquire three based upon a review of the application and attachments surveys plans aerial photographs letter reports and ran the board and B Consultants and test others provided at the hearing it would appear that the a SE very fly constructed Zebo within the required rear setback of the property for as previously stated the subject property is located in the r110 res Zone District where the current use of property permitted the sub property is in a regularly shaped parcel with 56.96 ft of Frontage along Washington Corner Road and containing a lot area of 19454 ft 4.46 more Acres including the light of way of area of Washington Corner Road the property is currently developed residential dwelling and Associated driveway a swimming pool and other normal site amenities the swimming pool is located in the rear of the property behind the house and the washing and the house itself is set back approximately 298.2 ft from the right of way of Washington line of Washington Corner row can I jump in real quick those numbers you were reading are different than the ones that I have in my following okay um Bob got back to me with modifications mainly to the numbers okay made those Chang that's I'm [Music] good well the first one so let us continue here I am delaying our record breaking effort here to mess with you yeah thank you keep going sorry at least you're paying attention I paying attention I get bonus points for that too sorry a 13 by 202t concrete P gazebo you 21.8 ft from the rear property line other proposed GRS include grading around the S Pool expanding modifying the existing conrete pool deck and the front of the existing dwelling in order proposed 5 foot wide concrete sidewalk further an extension existing deck to a new door to be located at the southeast corner of the house five pursu to njsa 47c this applicant requires following dimensional VAR to a very setback related to closed gazebo where 40 ft minimum required 21t is proposed bious servant were a maximum 2,619 ft when excluding the right away from the calculations is permitted and where 20,802 ft is proposed and C number of garage spaces maximum four are committed and five are proposed when including the detached garage addition question variances there are existing non-conforming conditions and it should be noted that the proposed Gazo construction will not intensify for other alter these existing non-controlling conditions a rech setback where 100 ft is required and where 63.8 ft exists B minimum lot area where 4356 ft is required and we 19454 squ exist C driveway specification in that the driveway is in excess of 200 ft in length and existing deficiency for K turn depth at the residence is 10 ft and where a 50t minimum is required D driveway specification greater than 50 ft in length existing deficiency on a horizontal curve where at least 14 ft of unobstructed width is required and where 10 ft exists and an unobstructed width of 12 ft is required on the remainder of the driveway were 10 ft inance e driveway specifications of greater than 50 ft in the length the existing change in slope on the first 30 f is in excessive 15% F required location for accessory mechanical equip in residential Zone said location shall be within the interior of building envelope whereas the existing pool equipment lies outside the building envelope G minimum set back small accessory mechanical equ residential zones must 15 ft reot line rear yard set back pool is 12.2 ft six Wendy arrested property own talf the application indicated subject property purchased in 2019 that the main Resident was constructed in order around 1960 indicated is also a three car garage a detached garage and a swimming pool which was constructed in or around 1980 the swimming pool itself is 24 by 40 ft in size and is located to Residence the W commented that since the time of purchase of the subject property nothing new has been constructed by the app seven G Dy gy civil engineer project manager land use planner tesi have the application witness confirmed that the Zone within with the Zone within which sub is located and stated the surrounding area contains all residential uses was stated the downward from the southwesterly corner in North EAS corner to discuss the required it stated that consistent with the recommendation bu environmental commission the app utilize permeable P wherever Poss whenever possible rather than concrete this will assist with water absorption withness to step proposal to propos dimensional variances as previously set forth in this resolution and confirm that the existing nonform will not be intensified or impacted in the event the board granted the various relief that is being sought in that the residents on sub property is located far to the rear of the lot in the opinion of planner Arch We Exist regarding rear guard setback because of the slopes associated with this property was indicated that proposed Gazo would be located approximately 300 ft away from the nearest dwelling and would not be very visible to any Miss gin also offered her opinion that given the size of the property and the proposed location of Gazo there be no substantial negative impacts of neighborhood zoning or to the plan as for storm water run off given the size and location of this property the which was opin there be natural systems involving storm water management that nothing further would be needed in this regard a Christopher De one of the applicants testified on behalf of the application witness know there were drains with underground piping in the area of property which discharged water from property was also indicated that with regard to purpose coverage the plans would be revised with col the removal of certain areas and use of perable materials in their place n public com in favor of an opposition to the application inclusions of law whereas Pursuit land use law specifically njsa 407c 1 and two the board May Grant relief in strict application of any zoning regulations where because of the condition specifically affecting the piece of property is set forth in the statute the strict application of such regulation with result of peculiar and exceptional practical difficulties to or exceptional undue hardship upon of such property or where the purpose of land law said forj 45-2 would be Advanced by deviation zoning ordinance requirements and the benefits of such deviation would substantially outweigh any detriment based upon the testimony and evidence presented the board finds that the applicant has method requirs the BR the Vari for re set back con construction of a concrete bad for gazebo where a minimum of 40 ft is required 20 1.8 ft Post in addition to a variance for imperious surface where maximum plus or minus 20619 ft when excluding the right way of Washington Road was permitted and with 2082 f peros given the significant size of the subject property and the fact that Gazo constructed near location of the existing swing pool which is behind the residence and is set back approximately 298.2 ft in Washington cor Road the relief requested appears appropriate reasonable re set back VAR doin Us in nature given the overall size of the subject property would result in limited if any visibility surrounding properties the project is attractive and be a very positive addition to the subject property whereas tional variance relief njsa 407 requires that no variance or other relief may be granted without Shing that such variance or other relief can be granted without substantial DET for the public good and will not substantially impair de in purposes of mass plan and zoning ordinances in this regard the board is of the opinion that the applicant has met this burden for the reason set forth in the body of this resolution and as sets by to during the hearings has comment upon by the board specifically post construction could be considered a normal customary Improvement to a single family residents in this neighborhood the dental deficiencies regarding re setback and impov coverage be appear to dious in nature now therefore be a resolv having the application considering the impact of proposal on the bur and its residents and having determined whether proposal is in further use law njsa 4155 d-2 atack andw B and whether Theos is conducive to the orderly development site in the general area which is located boards a could cause has been shown to grant for dimensional her we requested by the app he had further resolved by the zoning Bo adjustment of bur burn County Somerset state of Jersey on the 5th day of August 2024 on the appropriate motion made and seconded that sub the application of Wendy is granted subject condition one shall be testimony and pl submitted with this application however the event plans have to be revised purs to the recommendation cons of the board and the board consultant St should be properly completed and submitted to V two the requested dienal variances for re pack and pervious coverage and garage stall are granted for the reasons this resolution three except where specifically modifi by this resolution the app shall be B by the recommendations contain in all letter reports and memor of the board consultants and bur advisory committees for prior to the issuance of any permits by the zoning officer and the B Bo engineer shall review all plans submitted by the app five there shall be no any changes to plans unless approved by the board six as agreed to by the applicant consistent with the recommendation burn environmental commission set forth to this memorandum May 13 2024 the app shall utilize per permeable pay or other more permeable materials wherever possible rather than using concrete seven as agreed to by the app at the gravel area near the detached garage structure shall be removed in the app and the area shall be planted with grass eight the app shall sub approve payment of all real estate taxes for the property n the app shall pay in the time manner all out stating future fees and Es charges and shall post Val performance maintenance guarantees in connection with the review of this application prior and subsequent to the approval of this application the applicant shall be responsible for theing of any other approvals or permits from other governmental agencies May by law and the app shall comply with all requirements inion of such approves of permits including but un limited to the municipalities compliance any Lo housing regulation if however compliance with other conditions would resolve the plan the difference one approved by the board here in the out shall return to the board for all appropriate relief 11 priority issuance of a building permit after submit final variance plans and necessary all required additions and Corrections for R approv by the board engineer with so approved plans with the board engineer for Signature and transition board's administrative officer 12 the applicat be required to submit an application to the B engineer for STW management 13 the shall be found by all inod allation Fai and all testimony given before the board at this meeting of May 20th 2024 are there any corrections just one comment absolutely on page two the second paragraph under item four start other proposed improvements grading around the sing pool expanding modifying bu de I think the next part one of the existing dwell um all they're really doing there is kind of modifying the front walk and extending it around to a pool I'm not really sure how that reads not really doing anything to the front of the delling what would be a better alternative your engineering I guess just say modifying front walk and to the pool so you know any visitor just walk in the front of the existing dwelling he say get rid of front of the existing dwelling and change it to existing walkway front walk front walk and the front walk front walk in order to and they're not really doing anything to the dwelling I don't believe no there nothing come and the front walks in order to do you keep do want to keep in order to accommodate the concrete C no I just say that they're they're in the front walk and and a 5 foot concrete sidewalk in the front of the dwelling yeah that's that's and a 5ot wide country sidewalk in the front of the B of front the existing okay yeah it makes very s thanks soy expanding modifying the existing concrete pool deck and the sidewalk and a 5 foot wide concrete sidewalk in front of the existing dwell and good and good and good any other changes then all make a motion to approve including the changes that just discussed second Mr gra yes Mr McDonald yes mran yes and Mr M yes the motion carries cool right we don't have anying Deion we have a dam [Music] got like 97 invoices from Mr Reg mons months oh at least yeah I me I will make a motion to pay the bills pleas s Mr delar yes Mr Green yes Mr yes Mr M yes Mr SL yes the motion pares eventually you will get it appears that we're paying bills on a quarter bis responsibility all right thank you thank you okay um pending applications they're building all of a sudden you got to keep you got to be more aggressive and and fear fearful to these people I just got another one this morning you're not being here yet tell me we're not heing anymore scary is any of are any of these in the uh in the police station yet any Pap no because they haven't M complete yet okay well actually um I'm talking the rushman will be any technically any day and we're going to be scheduling that okay thank you so do you anticipate us having a next next two weeks so that's a good question um I don't think so um no um I tried for rushman but they would not be ready between vacations and other schedules so they are probably not going to be at this point they're penciled in that's why I have tentatively scheduled for September 16 and I don't have anyone else um that is ready as a so that's still not confirmed on the 16th right not yet no she's supposed to get back to me this week with confirmation application number three am I have a 200 foot list for that one I'll have to check I don't know on top of my head would noticed yet no they haven't noticed yet I'm just curious oh my wait a minute you're in the two that means I'm up yeah oh boy right after this you got you got a tap measure let's go do it Str that tap I don't know I'll let you know I'll take a look because I might be okay I cannot see it would it would just be the I the property shap really weird just trust me their property no mine oh I've got a flag lot that's is shaped like a dog you werey but I'm behind Joe [Music] Williams Corner whatever property is did they ever do anything with the Vander property oh V yeah yeah so um completely off topic but a uh the CEO for a farmer company bought it the whole thing well the whole thing all it's almost 50 acres with three pars and he's keeping it all and he's he's completely redoing the house unfortunately for you stand is doing it trust me you didn't want to be in that house I looked at that house did you when they wanted God the only thing the best thing for that is a bulldozer yeah City didn't do that but it's still that knob and tube in oh yeah that was live what are these wires yeah that thing was night okay um yeah so I'm curious about application number three just find out um because you then my cohort heads up Slugger takes over change things up a little bit absolutely um so we got nothing else on this list we do have a planner I think I made that I have not seen it yet just got it do a friend used to stand this and email it that's when we weren't meeting in person hand them out okay okay so does anyone want them that is this fine thank because I would just print the dang thing anyway so I'd rather have them for a copy yeah did you have them here tonight is that the other it that I have for tonight that's not on the agenda finish this thing I had some questions about all the application counts I know what it was we were talking about some of these applications you group The on item number 10 here y um there were three applications pending complet 238 oh yeah they're all 23-8 it's all one L being okay yeah and that was all transferred to the planning board so but when did that transfer happen did it happen it probably didn't happen until 24 this year no I believe it happened in 23 because we never did anything with them it happened as soon as the apposition was first reviewed I'll I'll verify that okay let's just confirm whether I'm I'm willing to bet since it was received on 12123 oh it was received that late that's what so that it may not off been till 24 un probably was not transferred then um so that I wanted to straighten that out I want to make sure I looking at the right thing thank you um and the only other comment that I had was do we have any observations or recommendations to pass on to council and planning and night former proper that's going to be a night oh that can't be a recommendation think track was B down I understand but you know this is a are there things that the planning board should pay attention to we want them to do are there things that the council should pay attention to we want them recommending to them stuff we've seen from the applications and just to go over again the applications we saw last year we had the detached street car garage malali we had front por which we appr front poring on Center Street uh we received the Upton Pines application and nothing's happened with it yet we got that back Ys ago um 51 burnard which was the lot line Readjustment new house approv um D68 variants all of that stuff that was last year that was last year we had two Mullin Lane Weber application which approve I don't know what the VAR was for say unless oh was that uh was that another D68 I think that's probably what that was two Mullen lane two mullen's lane was the office psychologist yes okay we that one we had Liberty Farm dog uh we had the Hagar application 177 Al Lane uh two s just memorialized we had gard buber and Steve slope except exception on 74st kennel um and we did not take action on that at all pending completely revised plans is that still active or did they de yeah we approve that did but not until this year okay okay um and then this crazy at the endot L adjustment went to so from any of these applications we want to say anything I'm okay with nothing I mean fairly obvious things that we said this if we fix this we'll take a lot of time in trouble for us person Bob you recommend anything not with these applications okay all right so then we can I'll fill this in as just tell the council and the planning board they're doing a b up oh yeah right [Music] I know what bang up job means it means they're having an accident somewhere at any R okay so I will tell none this year I will then sign this and send it to you can you can file the you can get okay V to approve well yeah we should so do I hear a motion to approve there I'll make a motion to approve My Fabulous notes he wrote it on this day the 5th of August the longest time it's ever taken to create notes for the b c I'll make a motion with whatever changes we just discussed is [Music] he the only change we're making is to say nothing no recommendation yep none this I'll second all in favor iOS okay problem fin anything else guys the only thing I ask maybe if you notify me ahead of time for meetings my wife's been very active bab notify you good technology we make a decision now about the next meeting for this month since we will not have any applications ready if we will not have applications ready and we conf there are resolution in the so yeah if there's no business then we know there's not going to be okay is anything happening with the I have heard one word about that it's been in fact I was looking at some documents today it's been close to a year since I have not called call um to find out what's going on with that I it's not unheard of takes sure and it was a ma massive uh number of documents that were sent for that yeah so we'll see and in addition in my earlier conversations with Paul he did say U that the easement that the water company has from him use that driveway is as a through passage only they cannot park on it anything that they would want to park they have to park on site in their tiny little parcel someone told me that he's suing someone separately on that on that issue uh over and above the appeal there's a lawsuit that he's filed which americ told they're not handling said than God but but it's regarding that issue that it can't Rumble across there do I'm sure the water comp suing him well yeah I would bet that that's what's happening because he pulled he probably pulled that c on the wash wow you know what for what that property was and chick knows when n KY had house before um that's just put Capital piece property and put that giant ass tank next to it yeah would dramatically diminish the value of that people cross the street in addition yeah the other one and by the way silverin is just up the road was beyond the 200 foot LT didn't know that this power was going in he has really Deep Pockets if if Paul has Deep Pockets silver are immense yeah U he used to Silver that Anderson bought from you see him advertised now put fiber rather than buy it so if um he put all the windows in the Hills all wow we're talking was it 1500 homes in there something like that at you know 20 Windows of home you're talking like screw of two men go wow so he when he sold that he sold it for like2 billion then they had to rent all these properties back from I know a little more because my guys work there he he treated them very well yeah they're very respected and that's why you getting that building up at uh um North Maple and 202 office yeah that office yeah he put that in to manage the family money aing yeah exactly can't staff to do it he should have just talk to less quick but he didn't do that it's interesting he said he didn't know about it thinking I never saw any coverage of it in berville news they just they had no interest in talking about it in paper there was in the beginning yeah but yeah uh Jake uh Perry Jake Perry was here in the beginning yeah but yeah and I remember Charlie called me at one point about it and yeah I can't say much because it's go attend the hearings guys did you tell to listen to the tapes absolutely actually I I don't say things to the press and whatever they pick up from the P that's a different conversation you they want I don't give destructing the building manag your famous M yeah exactly what he did that's Mega Money yeah yes you m so like I said he's got Pacific Ocean money my my son-in-law works for his family I forget the name of the to but it's the largest family of business in the country they for their food process they process brains no that the largest family on business as far as I know is now gra they get5 million they make million here and he's in charge they got 50 people working on Family Matters separate office and his job is insurance is they love them save them all kinds of money but they get out of the five million dollar they get a year 80% has to go back into the company and the other 20% gets divided amongst the airs and his his one of the job is insurances and like one of the ladies needed Insurance on their airplane so we had to go find insurance for her there's big family own company family I know this every that McDonald come from that you oh probably yeah unbelievable um another one that's still family own is Johnson WX the family Ines John wax no 's company okay iany that oh um are you talking about lands no no no which is actually cooperate l l is a Cooper yeah F props grains they sell wheat and grain and stuff like they in fact they with part of their money they just bought a fish farm there are some big ones out there yeah so may did we decide that next meeting we're not having sounds we have a resolution that we haven't memorialized is there a time frame by which we have to memorialize something this was an application yeah you know what I'm talking about oh that one we is there a time frame by which we have to memorialize something yes for application if you approve or deny you have 45 days oh Jesus that 45 days but what do we have we we we got the letter we got the letter said if you want to do something with thatal their attorney sent us a letter saying all bets are off we're out of here we're done voy move I said it not g the GI law firm uh okay I didn't I didn't I didn't see the letter I don't remember that that said don't do it I know we talked about it right but they sent a letter uh and I can as long as they told us not to yes they did one circulated again just so everybody has it oh they said all the Buzz wordss Boy we're dead we're out of here no more uh we're abandoning it they sold the right stuff okay so they they actually abandoned the app they abandon yes yes it's no no further no further engagment okay so um do we need to do anything on our side then um if we want to do boots and suspenders both we could we could we could uh adopt the resolution consistent with a letter that says forget it and I can load it up with some more Ju we can D that just so we double double barrel okay we're talking about that one went went byby uh I thought she might be coming back somewhere they are somewhere in verville yes they're working on it they purchased another property baby I was just say yes yes yes yes yeah what property we Dro like days ago the house Young G came in she wanted a house a daycare for dogs oh yeah yeah yeah neighbors led her and they came outo her virtues exting circumstances they abandoned that application why he send it circulated again did you think we need do a resolution okay I'll pull out the and what was your name again k um yeah I I have to look it up pull up Liberty Li FS do resolution it won't hurt and if we don't adopt it no one's going to be chasing adoped because they're out of the picture uh who they were yeah the name isn't been yeah so we can do we don't have to do that we'll do it next meeting why they go out with that's really not something we should discuss yeah let's keep it going okay what else other than a motion toour all in favor post