##VIDEO ID:iJz470E5LHY## if you'd like to go up to the microphone let us take a look at it and we'll ask if you have any questions so you brought it back and now it's just lining up with the front corners of the house side and then going back and going around the perimeter yeah and the height of it is six feet Yes and the color this is aluminum right it's black yeah black okay so they brought it back not in the front anymore second Ed Scarlet all favor say hi hi hi motion you're good sir thank you thank you right um 5B was removed from the agenda so you're not seeing that 5c 11921 Northeast 12 Avenue concrete driveway main hey good thank you which one you here for tonight can you check them in please all right new con smooth concrete driveway they're now doing it 20 feet into your property line um got the long on one side you got the other on the other right looks like it meets our requirements uh just lot coverage really quick you know if they support it has to come here yeah I I'm not seeing that what is what is this register rainfall asphalt what is that drain huh it's a drain in okay but it says asphalt though or is that the wording is below that's asphalt Avenue yeah maybe that portion that might have been the city did that yeah there's a spot there with some concrete and there's a drain yeah there but the asphalt that is around the drain was that put in place by the village or was that I don't know we purchase it like that that's like but it's like concrete that's around the drain right right okay so that has something to do with the drain right okay so that's an existing drain that's something that's right the only thing that we're missing is um there's a there's a form that that shows um lot calculations that has you have to put it you have to calculate how much of the front yard is covered oh who who has the form you guys have the form it's part of the when you upload the package to the website it's it's there I mean I I think that it appears that you're under the 40% but we we need this form in order to confirm that okay um so the form is not completed do you have a picture do we have a picture of it or what she she's gonna check to see if it was um it was uploaded or [Music] not just one second okay how many do they have the form just one second please just looking is that okay so if can can I just have you come over real quick one of you so form has to be filled out it just has to you have to calculate the the property and then you have to separate calculation to sale the two so you had you did it once before you just have to update it now to the new design it's very simple just to do the calculation okay you have a blank one he's gonna he has a blank one that he can give you um you want to make a motion to approve based on the yeah second Scarlet onday I motion car so we approved your plan but you have to fill out that form and submit it before you can get your permit calculation now he's going to give you a blank one the gentleman so just wait just wait for him to come back 5B or 5D 5 is not gonna be that's right 5 b and are they here okay 58 I don't know who else came in 6 a 6 all right so the next is going to be 6D 967 noreast 117 Street metal fence p v r P2 LLC hello hey how are you how are you how how's everyone all right waiting for the listing driveway to come up oh the driveway yes we're in the final push okay so lots of lots of drawings where's the survey fourth page so I believe we did a 4 foot fence 3 feet from the property line wraps around 15 feet off off the front so we are doing a bump out on the driveway okay side on the U 10th Avenue side I'm sorry correct hard for me to see what is how far is that out6 and then 15t set back so it's 14 out okay so the max is 15 out you can't go past 15 out and probably 15 because the five for the fence doesn't actually touch that the wall no closer than 15 to the front property line so as long as you have that 15 and then over on the other side your aluminum fence what is that side setback I can't three foot on avue side you're doing four feet four feet fence correct and what type of fence it this aluminum what what's the style the style it's um got a detail for is that for the sides no it's for the back and the rear and side so it's it's like AUM um sorry it's concrete base with aluminum posts very close to each other okay knall with tickets correct it's GNA be black aluminum or but is it got hold on is it a horizontal I got like a bunch of different vertical they're vertical picket I don't know what you're seeing it's for sheet and everything on I'm looking at page like eight rooted view frame length I mean are these technical drawings yeah I don't know where you are G page four of the package and it's just a one sheet that has all the details and the you know setbacks and kind of layout of the prence okay okay I'm just saying if you go down one two three four eight nine there's like page eight nine and 10 show some kind of horizontal design that's what I'm just asking yeah I think those are more are there technical wind load load counts yeah um but they do look like their low Cs on horizontal fence the design of the so calculations aside the design of the fence is vertical PS based on and then the gate looks like it's a solid pel or some maybe that's what the Lo that that elevation is yeah because the gate looks like it's that horizontal probably what the extruded view that you're referring to okay these are just like post stick in the stuck in the ground with no cap on the top that's correct they round is rectangular like no there's no top they're just say there's no top you so oh they're rectangular very close to each other so couple things on this would be a the chain link fence can't go the entire length of the property and the the the the the part of the fence that when you leave the house on the back property line and goes out and goes back around all of that has to be of the exact same material right of course so I'm reading this as the chain link vence is going all the way across the back of the house is it all on the rear property line yeah it's it's got to stop at the building and when you so here basically from this line this corner out you'd have to continue with this one that's what you're saying yeah from the it's along the rear property line still but it's from the moment it passes the edge of the building yes it has to be all of One One Design uniform design that's fine okay that's fine and then the other thing too isage it's not a big deal so the other thing is is that the part these these vertical Pi pickets that are on the ground they have holes between them so is that it considered a gap and you're going to have a pool back there so is it possible for a child or something to get through less than four in which is like the maximum spacing on like a stair well railing to not be able to kid okay just asking the question that mean not climbable because that's the main thing all right just want to make sure that when you have a if you have a pool right I that's a separate permit that you already done that's still coming done let me check probably have to do the pool no no I'm sure the pool neverna get done make sure issues with the CL out like your fence that it does they will if the question is that there will be accessed no it will there will not be access it's yeah there about like climbability and can a kid get through a fence makes sense okay so I mean do we need to note that the chain link fence has to stop at the the house and the new design has to pick up at the house yeah when you're doing this submit this showing that or you're like ready to do this in a week and desperately no I mean resubmit it for I mean we could approve it with the cavey after that's we can we can approve it a new drawing right we can submit an amended drawing showing the request and then it can be done contingent on a correct second Scarlet all fav say hi hi I appreciate it thank you so much all right thank you all right next 6C 1,000 Northeast 120th Street gravel driveway agular it's actually two driveways it's a concrete driveway circular concrete driveway and a gravel driveway let me just take a look at what your application is for relocate replace windows and front door that's the previous permit I have replace sof paint install driveway okay install driveways on the 21% calculation 24% little lock average 36 I'm looking at the survey but I don't see anything denoting where the new driveway is going we we we have a set of plans that shows the driveway there's a set of plans there that shows should be should be there set of lines that shows the driveway the new driveway surve you happen to have it with you or no do I have what drawing with you by any chance uh yeah I don't have a printer but I have it on my phone just checking to see if it's been uploaded it's it's the same set of plans that I uploaded for the window from it so it should be there are you on the agenda for the windows tonight no we already I got approval already for the windows this is the second per for the driveway there's no we don't know what driveway there're drawing up the drive it's on guess the master it's like on a master plan sir it's a yeah it's a master sh it's only like three pages but we're just doing only yeah I found your window yeah that driveway B it's exist but it's so old it was an asphal driveway that's Fallen apart we're just completely ripping it out and and redoing it in concrete yeah I mean just d so on the gravel we require borders go around you just not it's not signified on the [Music] I mean there is right iser here right you don't it yeah when the part that's running the body of the street has to be 16 everything else can be right so if you can revise those plans resubmit yeah if you can if you can upload them to the to the the this application because uh we don't have it with this application so if you can make those revisions that Ed just talked to you about and resubmit them sub motion table uh second Scarlet all in favor to say I I motion table is approved you're tabled sir and we'll we'll be back in two weeks okay hopefully if you have it resubmitted we can be right back and it should actually move pretty quickly okay no problem thank you also when you come back make sure you put uh a specification for the gravel like the type the size the color the gravel material yet okay right thank you so next will be 6 h11 15 griffing Boulevard metal fence 6h 6h there you are that's you 11150 griffing Bard thank you for getting that application for this resident can you hear me okay okay so just I don't see where on the on the survey that it actually shows the fence um yeah we're putting in they do but that's a construction fence isn't it yeah it's well within the property probably 35t how did they demo and it's actually and whatever's there has been is actually stood up all this time I can't speak for what's what's been there all the time but I know that okay well I'm just saying he's not you're not applying for a rolling gate in the front submitted a plan yeah the plan that I've seen here I have a copy in the truck if you guys want to see it sorry I have a copy in the truck if you guys want well I'm just saying what I'm showing is I have a survey but there's nothing on it that tells me where this fence is going two pages to that there's one with a survey and there's one with a drawing I have a survey and a you have truck want to grab it come back to you if you have it you said you had it in your truck right what he's pointing to's basically adding the sides just okay except for the gaps we just there's got to be possible gaps it's on the survey but it's just they can never add to it or subtract it I mean technically technically they should technically they tore the house down and they started Fresh So the entire site needs to come up to compliance which which means that fence needs to come out so um but that would be a it's another cop topic all right so um since since he's looking at that do I have a 6 i j 6K 6K is here okay 6K 11623 Northeast 11th Place concrete driveway okay calculations are set up 31 and to another just okay so um there's a lot of Pavement in the RightWay I ask what yeah yeah I saw that see all this here this all as right that's that's in the swim so this all that can't be like your whole sale can't be full B it cannot be all asphalt Swale right we only have 40% of material other than grass or plants redoing these concrete driveways you have to remove all that asph yeah in general if you're redoing your driveways you have to comply with the code which says 40% of this area and right now the calculation that he submitted say 81% lot coverage in the RightWay there's this little chart you have to F out you look at the original survey it shows all that asphalt on the RightWay basically the sale like we fill this out 81% of the sale is solid material right yeah but yeah but it can't exceed 40 can't be higher than 40 so once once you start redoing your driveways it's got to come into compliance me all that asphal has to be removed and grass or something in between your your driver right so if you want to do these two driveways okay find all this here this doesn't matter it doesn't matter 40% of that cannot be driveway material so doesn't matter if it's gravel concrete pavers you still still can't have more than 40% of that area huh yeah it's up to you how you want to what material you want to use just you can't have more than 40% of driveway material driveway or parking or whatever so in this well in your front yard also in your s right we calculate separately but it's same rule 40% of the front yard 40% of the S so right now you're over that so youd have to figure out what you want to do you want to remove H it doesn't look like um yeah I'm trusting your G be you're not one eyeballing it it looks like maybe yeah because this is all we haven't done this yet and then we're gonna go into discussion I'm gonna go back up and take care of probably under 40% in the price here you're there's nobody else right because they're all prbp six whatever you got to accomplish right this gentleman 7B 7 a 7 C 7D gonna get Cod you need four parking spaces need to be on your property not in the switch so here you're going 24 by 22 wide so basically room for two bars um here you're going 24t deep but only 10t wide basically for one car how you have to yeah in theory what I would suggest is make each of them 16 right because a car is really 8 foot w a parking space is really 8 foot wide you know technically it's right here and right there you don't have to go far deep right you could go let's just finish up with with to 18 yeah you need you're G wide per car you're have two cars here it's all good the only thing would be that we notice let's since this has to be wider probably want to make that one a little narrower so you don't start going over the 40% okay so you want to we'll table it and you'll revise this make you can four cars on the proper you% of driveway material whether it's gravel p concrete asphal whatever you want to do and then if you decide to do gravel then there's other rules like a border and all this stuff so I don't know if you're considering gravel but you go with the gravel then just make sure you show when you come back with a new drawing that you're showing those borders around borders yeah I mean there's I don't know if it's in this package there's some standard details Village we're only evaluating the block coverage building department is going to look at how you build your right okay so motion to table for revision right it's six um for Revis he yes second Scarlet say i i two weeks but I think to be on the agenda you have to submit one week before so basically you have a week all right we're going to go back up to 6h uh he the gentleman brought in up the plan 11150 griffing Boulevard for metal fence so it is actually on the front corners it's just on the side out your your application is just for two gates okay and then the only thing would be is there's are there any gaps in between the the he's sewing 3 inch Min Gap that's what I'm concerned about in the design of the the design if you look at the the detail of the so F and Gates and all that that at the horizontal side and more than a half in gap right now you got a 3 in gap two in basically have a ladder half inch Max scap You' have to revise this drawing to show can't be climbable and get your fingers in there telling you the rules you know I don't make up the rules or the Aesthetics but but we wouldn't be able to prove this as it is right now with that we wouldn't be able to prove this right now with that open the 3 in it's no it was not approved it was table um he needs separates the public from your vacuum has vertical bars with big gaps so I would say it doesn't look like a jail but anyways or just do it solid I mean then Bo if you don't like the small gaps just do a solid events the problem yeah you want to put a flat you want to come back with a drawing that shows a flat panel yeah then it's a decorative horizontal louers on a flat panel solves the pability ISS is it though is that solving theability I don't know for me it'd be a solid at that point the own or just do it a half in a half inch do a half inch you do what you want to do telling you the code I don't want to I can't debate you on the Aesthetics or no because vertical is not the same thing in terms of a ladder effect or you can't climbable climbable vertically you just wouldn't have more than a 4 inch Gap because you can actually flip through with here so if you want to have a 3-in gap make them vert and it's not a ladder the code is very clear on non climbable so motion to table or you're coming back right so motion to table uh 6 second it's call it on paper say I motion car okay all right we have uh now we're going to move on to discussion first will be 7 a 739 Northeast 118 Street new construction first preliminary review is there an application in on this but there is an application okay okay so then it is a first first review do you have plans for us to see I have preliminary plans very preliminary plans oh I don't have them here oh no it's online sorry the other ones for next uh I do have them but should we should we should we table these because we we have to submit a demo and fence all right so 7A very preliminary that's fine very so we're talking about 739 Northeast 11 18 Street the first one okay 10 foot rear setback 10 foot side 10 foot other side is this just like a duplicate of the one that we saw last week it's very preliminary these flow plans subject to change um yes it's that so but this this is similar to the one that you showed us that was looking at the park which is correct which is next next in line it's very similar this house will most likely change full disclosure so I don't know if you want to we should table this for next one well I mean we give you some feedback on it if You' like um so first of all what is your lot coverage that's the first one first thing that we look at is what is their lot size what's the lot coverage of the new house no it's Gage Edward let's table this for next time because I I don't like this house and we're changing it okay so we just the discussion item so so you'll be coming back again for the first review next time yeah withdrawn make sure you got the doning data yes that sheet all right um since you're up and you have the microphone I'm going to go ahead and just let's go ahead and work with you on the next one 7c 11315 Northeast 9th Court on new construction secondary second preliminary R viw have you applied for this this this there is a permit okay do you have drawings for this or we looking at it online here we actually have so what you have online this is the latest um so we can review together yeah Zing data well last time data last we we did yes so you got 36 10 10 no 114 I'm more concerned of the setb that we talked about last time4 because we set it back we set it back a few feet the Second Story we set it back on the sides a few feet U we put those privacy on the balcony the second story so we have a third we have to go through a third meeting so we can obviously include that for the third meeting if we need a fourth we'll do it obviously don't have you don't have the required setback yeah need to be 15 not 13 oh yeah so sorry so you're allowed to have 30 feet on the on the setback no what we discussed last time is that 30 feet continuous applies at least to my understanding it applies if you are on the 10 foot set back if you are above you have to set back 15 feet right now you're setting back 13 foot4 so okay so you have to step back because you take the 30 foot and you put it at 11 put it say 10 still doesn't matter everything beyond that 30 foot needs to be at 15 it's not like you can split the difference and say oh not putting anything at 10 so let me put more at you have a pen less than 15 let let me knock this out right now okay so I'm gonna put them so everything so that's first one sorry assing this you don't have this Dimension right just assume that it is 10 + 4 that's 11 10 and a half yeah okay well so I mean more of this can be first of all doesn't need to be 11 fo4 we're doing that because we want to be 10 right and this could be up to 30 then everything else here is this a inside lot line here to right but it's so far bad yeah but still it's not 15 right so this is probably more than 30 right this wouldn't really count 4 so again sorry not the whole thing you could yeah you could do 30 out and by the way at 10 right so 30 out at 10 30 here I mean you can keep it the way you're you're doing here but you go 30 and then you have to set it back a foot you know you just create this little Notch here or something like that so I think what last time we had talked about was I don't think you had that much on the side you were just going to shift this over this is the first one this is the first here yeah yeah I mean I'm obviously I'm not looking at how so again this could be less than you're showing that could be less than you're showing for a portion yeah 30 feet worth I mean you you literally have here to here if this is 30 then you could set this patio back over here and you could set this over here yeahuh it's my bar oh okay but again that's first floor we're only talking about the second floor yeah that's first your second floor can step your first floor can stay at okay so this is essentially I mean you're providing articulation it looks like we have elevations or anything only on the second Flor it's only required whether you do on first and second because it's structurally simple where's the front look at window 28 it's very hard to read 28 28 but from base blood and I don't know where it this is 29 to yeah but you're allowed maximum of 28 feet but from base flood elevation plus one so I don't know where that is it's not showing here just like absolute number 09 what is BAS are you setting the a pedestal of 6et or nothing don't know so wherever this is one make sure you show us where loc so undulation on the front so this is sticking out further this is further back this is at 36 I think it was this is that so this is like 40 something way back here What's Happening Here elevation your garage is your balc going out further but in plan it's the OPP yeah yeah get look your elevation show here balcon is be the opposite in elevation your garage would be here or whatever here right elevation not matching your plan but as far as besid that obviously but your your front wall plane is not this flat thing like I think it was the last time looks like it's this is out further this is way back this is out a little bit um now is it all still a twostory roof at this one height except for this one little tiny POA in the middle but over here somewhere well it looks like actually not TW story is way up here is there any first any one story is the garage one story like the part that sticks out like here is is the garage completely covered with the balcony or does a garage go out further and there's actually W so it's technically a twostory house all over the entire foot footprint with one level right so right now you're mostly all flat you have this little eyebrow detail that's not really roev like where is this is it here over the foyer I would tell maybe your foury year drops down lower to me I see I just see this one big line going across like this this a box there no there's no play on the roof level and this wouldn't really count it's not really make this lower this is lower a little higher and this part this just looks like a twostory um living room here so like this could like that would give you the play on this Skylight over the U stairs Maybe what about the side window window okay so now let's get onto the window weird like the garage is missing from this at the opposite side no this is is this the front of house no are the two sides the other no I'm asking like I'm trying to determine where the that's aill this is the but then you have this so that matchs your elevation not your this relation and even like this elevation Chang this looks a lot lower than that granted it's an elevation and it's a perspective so maybe it's not yeah that provides different and then here right you're still showing this this so This balcony overlaps runs so as long as that is not more than closer than 30 that's thaton okay so let's talk about the side windows now do these windows diminish your view into the it push okay this this will change obviously with this with these changes these changes so it's these you have two windows here but then you have oh sorry I'm looking this is the one that's on the this is the 11t and this one was like 13 so the question is do these windows diminish The View into the this one is a is a shower nice full length window there in the shower primary bathroom primary bed this is your these are not so much because these are actually in the front two front third of the house so these are actually okay are okay it's these so the question is like do you really need to have these big windows in a shower and next to the night you know lit is going to go down behind your night I'm sure this one we can we have this this I mean you need some that are you stand naked FR probably not oh you probably that's the question but it need to be indicated for us know what you're doing these will most likely problem what okay I know but I'm just saying I mean if you're literally have my designer side's kicking any are you really going to stand there in front of a full frosted window and where you could if you just you know you made it a clear story window you wouldn't have to do any processing at all okay we we can try to you know and and then you could have your tub sitting in front of it with a beautiful tile around it not have to have a piece of glass going into the floor I don't think it goes I think the floor point is here but whatever it's you know I mean regardless you're going to be sitting there in your nice tub looking at frosted glass right and then you got the same topic on the other side right so the other side is these two bathroom and bedroom again this one you can live without because you have this and to have this little Nook whatever is to feet yeah so again maybe it's just a question of raising this up a little bit right where is this happening is this this the the living room okay the first the height of this is it over 18 it is okay so that's your next thing is but is that really a that's really two stories it's just a double height volume but it's not a single story right because I mean they're their floor is this right okay even here so this is just double I I wouldn't penalize them for that it's it's not a single story to summarize it's a double height volume we roll down elevations we looked at this we looked at this now regarding this you need you need separate levels of roof Roofing if you want to do one roof level with paits that change that's your call it's just that visually it has to appear that your roof plane has some change in roof plane he's not gonna be happy if it's a six inch difference right but I'm just saying structurally you it's up to you we don't care we're not asking where is the roof what do you see so if you've got a 4 foot parit and an 8 inch parit but the roof is the same but you guys rather have like different Ro like level roofs yeah just because it's more interest a 28 foot high box I'm like trying to put I agree on the box I mean I'm I'm pushing for kind of different I mean you you you accomplish it if you have a lower roof over your living room this is one roof level this is another roof level there's two roof levels that's all the code requires I see what this we'll come back you know we're not we're not this area here can be lower than than this area you know what I'm saying and you then you accomplish your your roof um not sorry thankfully can I take these for not I want to talk to the guy who's funding all this see if he feels that way it's thankfully they're they're happy um no I mean you want get it right and hopefully all these will push for better designs it's much better than what was approved previously for this property so yeah still there we we'll come back to you thank you all right so the next one will be the second well no actually this was considered the third this was considered the third so um no I'm say this was considered the second so the next one would be a third but you have to be you have to be it may take more than three the doesn't mean it's approved okay thank you what was that one for that was that was 7 D all right before we get to the this we have the gentleman over here who's 7B 1091 Northeast 10th Avenue driveway question Sabio that was you correct okay do you guys are just hanging out here I don't think that no you're you've been approved you just have to submit that you have to scan it and email it to the to upload it into the the portal well you have to get the permit still the permit has to be approved by the uh building official those guys are you just got zoning approval right now you have to get the building the building the uh permit next yeah you you'll get an email through the open gov system that you applied on once it's been approved by the billing department we're just the first step it should be quick because it's not a complicated it's a driveway but they're the ones that will actually issue the permit later yeah but for zoning you you you pass so you're good you just have to submit that oh yes before you start construction you need a permit from them not not okay Gage that was c not uh this gentleman is 7B yeah I'm just saying what we did was c not D you had mentioned D but okay I I'm yes I'm sorry yes so we're on B SB we're on 7B but there's nothing in the Dropbox do you have paperwork for us to see what is B driver can you just go right over there next to where we were just standing please start because the lady honor this is adop and the lady not receive a request from the city to do the driveway in front of the house okay they go and hire so why some guys who say that you don't need to P they were trick so he did this yeah okay she was here last time when we talked about this we talk about that so the solution is okay go with the driver into the property so it goes to give me something like this this one I going to need to demolish it because because the shape is going to be outside anyway I'm going to be able to do two parking spot in front of the P Unit 10 by 20 okay and three in front of the other 10 by 10 right why do you need to have so many three that's my first question because you can park hand them behind one behind another yeah he he doesn't have enough depth in the property on this side that's the issue how many you just need four spots right yeah just need four yeah so you don't need five so you you just need four parking spaces on your property which each of these would be one so you could lose this part and just do this and this okay or can I make a suggestion don't don't lose this is this or or just keep this or yes like I said just keep going just because you've got a little bit of the radius it's okay it's still within your corner property so you can extend I wouldn't demolish that just do this okay and and then don't go so far over right come here I mean this is already poured I guess go I guess just extend that yeah but I don't think you need the that way brand new concrete I don't need to do that yeah yeah and extend this like this yes okay so then you have one two three four parking and you probably have even more you could fit more right because might have is here in front of this I have a palm tree okay okay so can I demolish the palm tree can replant it it to go that well the question is do you if you're willing to do this then you can just you can go keep this and go in and go up like this and keep the palm tree and have an extra parking spot because you have the the cool you have 40% of your entire front RightWay and I believe this all this yeah you have all of this you have yeah so you have we're way under the 40% so and I do some calculation only for the uh this part this part of the L the front is uh uh yeah and technically this would also count because it's it's also a frontage it's a side so but yeah you're well under it looks like okay yeah and what consider you here the S all this everything outside your property line up to the street so this is all Swale all of Tech so you're going to be at like I don't know okay perfect I just want to be sure about how to manage sry I would just this is a very strange situation 27 between the yeah lot got more Swale than than they do front yard on this right so yeah I wouldn't can I draw on this I wouldn't demolish this right just come straight and this is what's already poured right yes sir so just keep that okay and then you're going to get two spaces here required okay this is our poured right and this is already ped right yes sir so saying just come with this over however much you need to miss that Palm but the minimum weight if you have at least 16 with car eight eight and eight is the parking space right and 20 and really 18 deep is a park space right so 8 by 18 would be a car space okay and you'll have one two probably can fit three at that point here if you needed to but okay that way you don't demolish anything they already did you're just extending a bit whatever extend it the so you'll come back with final plans we'll approve it uh I'm gonna I'm gonna yeah submit everything I have all the application ready to submit so I'm see you next time yes sir thank you sir while I can submit everything the yeah update that drawing you know and then upload it through the open gov and like I don't know how it works in terms of requesting to be on the next okay do I need to come back with you or I think if you submit the drawing we just looked that you don't have to come to this pretty clear it'll get resubmitted to to a hearing whether you have to come personally probably not oh just make sure you have the lot calculations a form there's a separate form for that yeah okay just make sure you submit that and it should it should go through pretty quickly yeah just submit those forms please all right next is going to be 7D 1201 Northeast 11 Place new construction there is an application for you have an application in for this it is all right so it's a discussion I because there's no application so it's not really first or second first review have an application or not I'm not quite sure I follow because we've needed an application to get this started right because there's three a process for permit yeah no yeah so need process number for it to be a real application and then it'll be a real first review second right now since you're a process number it's just aiew ah okay so basically once we get a pretty good okay here but now we need all the setback sing requirements and everything else we can complete the drawings get the application in and then we can come in say for the third one no we're saying is but if you come back in but if they've got come it will probably go right to a to to the agenda but typically when we we start the review when you make the application got now it's just like a like you said a courtesy okay understood understood so but we're not gonna make you go through three times again three more times that's nice to hear I appreciate that okay so why don't you go ahead and start with the U zoning information okay this is Stephanie by the way hi my name Stephanie um so for right now we are within the 50% law coverage we are covering 49.77 per if you look at it here where we have to required for 4,875 we're at 4,852 two so we're still within where we meet the setbacks as well as on the first and second floor so here's the best part now this is the first floor is that related onto the survey so we can see the set the site so this is the new structure or this exist where's the new here where all the STS just a little small 30 10 okay this is the one we're most proud of now second floor this is the first floor and you want to go back to the site then no just the site the T in the back is to the pool right yeah yeah the okay so the house itself is back at 29 29 11 yeah okay this is the first floor um the cover Terrace bathroom pretty much the same from the last time that we were here now what Chang is the second floor we went ahead and we did the five feet um Step yes total 15 so these are at the 10 foot setbacks and these are under 30 any reason you're setting back 10 foot three instead of just 10 foot first one probably for extra stuckle I got caught one time give yourself some tolerance I got caught one time it might me each for half an inch they made us move the wall my that's when you hire a different surveyor that won't work with you on the half inch because the city's not doing their own survey right the owner's hiring iar I hear you so you're at 29 feet this wall here in the back yes okay 20 20 foot rear Second Story setback so you're fine with that on yes we need those windows you have a window here window here window here window here so these are the first oneir of the house it's back two3 okay so just for like a future application because nothing we we know that that's 5 foot because you're telling us and that's 5 foot because you're telling us but there's no Dimensions got it so ideally Dimension and then probably even though you've got this site plan that has the property line it's only showing like the ground floor setbacks right so really this second floor you should show the property lines right and and show the setback in there so that it's just documented as 50 got it we're not taking definitely I'm an kind of guy maybe May back right yeah like a small single high up in the bathroom here right yes 25 on one side 276 on the other yes to show the difference of volume one side of the house where the master is is is the tallest point and then the bedrooms are below so we have a difference in height yeah on the actual roof too as well yes so how would feel engaged about the bedroom one Windows here right which are not necessarily clear stories I'm assuming they're not frosted right they no they're they're actual that's just the bedroom yeah right just because the part of that code update right once any windows on the Second Story and the rear two-thirds of the property it's a front of the house diminish opposite right no the the front yes so I'm asking about both windows right those are like kind finishing view into adjacent properties for Windows in the SEC for openings in the second floor in the rear two3 the property so that would that would include these andbe a little less these two I mean they're 15 foot set back right instead of 10 so that helps here you're also publishing it with this green wall that you've got on the B so that's kind for them exactly that's the screen wall that we've given to the master balcony what really most most excited about is the I thought was really kind of neat after this one might be a better quity can of lever overhang on this one's a little bit better because that's not how I was reading the plans that's this is is there some way you guys could graphically show like a view out of a window and I think you could do that it wouldn't be like 100% but it would we could have a volume for the neighbor for the the neighbors like out of a window problem is how would you model what's outside yeah that's the only issue is that go the house and show you the window but we can't really model what's on the outside unless I took a picture of it with a drone and then you can transfer it into the view it could be like a volume the house would be represented as a volume like a line of side line of side angle to see what would happen yeah of course just a section part of the section yeah kind of so we can see okay so you're at that window so like the front of the house looks great try to imagine right so especially with that yeah right you're not showing it but really you've got like a line here right a parit of the first correct correct So in theory we're further back view out looking down which is concern maybe it's yeah you know somewhat diminished as the code says by that parus on the first floor and that might be good enough to good or sure you can so I just have a concern on the walls the second on the on the sides you know just that be designed in such a manner to provide movement and articulation to prevent excessive blank walls there's something we can do on those side walls by like maybe wrap the the um eyebrow around put some banding do something because this is a very excessive kind of lots of blank wall at 28 feet you know um on on facing your neighbor I've seen where a I know but I'm just saying it's just we actually thought it was pretty cool the way it just deposed no I see I I think I think you're providing the ulation the yeah by the building the articulation of it but it's just this is a lot of blank wall that's gonna be I guess it's the back of yourit right that's why you have nothing that's correct that's the back the kitchen here's your street so people are going to be looking at at like this and I think believe it's on both sides it's over here too so just um maybe just something Bing they don't consider the existing trees that which that they going to be there nobody's going when you're saying the street you're saying that you know I'm just saying it's a 28t length wall that you're that you but again just put some banding on the stucko put th extend this eyebrow around um uh create a b you know a band on on there you can just doing some architectural play and create something that's going to give you a little maybe you already have this this eyebrow this we know that you're trying let me just extend this instead of instead of having two separate ones graffi Styles you run into your pink color the the line of sight is actually impeded on somewhat because we have a wider front than we have the back side well being this park I would I would imagine how about color this is this is 120th and 11th Place something with most likely have a one story house next the next you're over that comp textures wood wood tile you know porcelain wood tile something we can play with control joints that's theu the lines in your suco reveal theet out make a design okay I mean I would love to do that because that's exactly what helps the expansion and contraction any stitious materials and we don't have humidity heat that so what you decide on the window I'm sorry I kind of check out a I was looking at the other part did you decide the window was you looking at the yeah did you work out the window you know I think what Scarlet was asking for because this this is setb and you do have the first floor here right so you got a parit for that first floor roof but she was saying maybe they can diagram whatever if this is the window you know someone's sing here maybe they can't see much because the parit well because they're at 15 foot where that window is they're not a 10 you know something for them to make the case to us that it'sing you adequately right which kind of complies with the intent of the code I think what we kind of this is far back too so we're not correct that one's also far back how do you like our V for victory window it's three windows but you can see the you can see the blank blank spots you know this this is not so bad because you know it's smaller whatever there's the eyebrow but you know this could be this brought that or something to kind of break it up a little bit isn't that the kitchen side we were just talking about yes this is the side okay yeah 13 there okay this excessive blank so the sides is a a little bit of the yeah the kitchen window no the kitchen's over here so where's the window in the back oh okay that's like your cabinet wall yeah that's where the cabinet tree and applian yeah that's the high window in the back but above the SE we have the other right here above the sink we have the windows but we took these because and that's the South Side anyway so we're trying to keep passive solar okay you know sustainability here alive unless Windows yeah to the mission well the first floor you you put a hedge up you put a fence up and not worried about yeah we're not worried not worried about first Flor using your own language right we learn quickly around here Tre just messing with you guys can't have any fun with the sense of doing what we do right right good thank you for working with us no absolutely all listen I'm not gonna you know kiss your asses like these guys oh we love coming back here as much as we possibly can but you know come on it's a good home it's a good design question about another property 1143 we're working and almost finished we're probably closing to make it de with the buyer 1143 W Street one the one the one on 10th no the one on eth Avenue okay um we talk with the neighbor he agreed we agree we're buying part of his L 6 ft to extend the property for a buyer the buy thought it was too narrow this space in the budget okay so you're you're gonna have to go through the entire County subdivision is his house 16 set back he can he cannot become non say team so we have to see his plan we have to see your plan his backyard his backyard we are now in agreement with the lawyer but comp situation minimum lot SI all that maybe want to bring it in for discussion bring the fans show us because we don't want to move we discuss with you just in case to make sure show us what's existing both surveys both surveys and analy yeah stilling his is 18 fet so if we get in six we still plenty of room for him it we stilling on bring that in for like just so we can lay it out and we can see the the actual plans and can tell you perfect so do I hear a motion for approval look guys always a wise guy so so we're still being recorded I can't deliver a joke here be on recording the rec make it off if you want H out for another for another 45 minutes because we've just done who was here ra [Music] abely all right see you next thank you all right thanks for working with us we have a resident that has a question we okay with a walk on just uh can I just um have you go up to the microphone please good night um um sure I mean this is what's the address that was 11 is it really a secondary interview if they don't have well they're technically not because they don't have an application in so they're just it's more of a discussion item but we technically when they come in for the final application we could was the driv was the Sor no worries Oh I thought true right pb24 they said didn't number ma'am what's your address 111 Northeast 9th Avenue 11001 Northeast what Avenue again I'm sorry 9th 9th Avenue yeah okay okay and what's your question it's a few I'll be very quick though sure sorry about that and thank you for having me without notice um so we had a driveway permit and we were planning to maybe perhaps if the city allows we want to make it beautiful outside instead of having the the grass that it's always dying to in instead of planting grass can we do a Turf and do we need a permit or should I just do a revision on my previous driveway permit I I don't what do you you you like you're talking about the the fake grass the yeah it's outside of my property line so it's up to you guys whether you guys want us allow us to make it forever or are you talking about like in the in between the driveway or are separate of the driveway like the outside of instead of having grass it's I mean it's it's an undeveloped yeah I don't know about that is the way that the code reads is it's like Improvement right so anything you do put a house on it put a pool on it put a driveway on it put a Pergola on it put artificial turf on it it's considered an improvement okay and not natur maximum percentage of your front yard or the sale that you can improve okay so if your driveway is taking up 10% 20% whatever and then the the rest you want to put Turf but then the rest becomes an improvement and all of a sudden you're you're doing 100% Improvement which is not allowed you can only have 40% of improvement make sense I see so then I just basically have to do calculation see if it doesn't I mean I guess I don't know what the yard looks like or whatever but Theory you could have maximum 40% of your front yard be improved either whether it's a driveway a walkway even even so it's not it's outside of my property line it's City it's whole different matter because probably the city would well but it's it's it's not an approved driveway material so it's it's well but it's it's it's it's improved coverage you're doing something other than Rass or mulch or something natural like and you're just saying you want to use it as a parking service so we just want to make it beautiful just don't cuz the grass always dies and and it's just it's the the entire driveway it's nice but then to the side of it it's just we're not planning to make any plants or the only place that it that the um that artificial grass is is um mentioned in the code is when it's in relations to a driveway like as a border or gaps or things like that so that's what I thought she was asking was is if she wanted to put no I don't think that's something that's allowed because it's not it's not called out first of all it's something that's that's allowed and then and then the also the other effect of the fact is that it's it's a non-natural material that's an improvement yeah prvious and that doesn't matter it's it's not prvious or impervious it's a it's a it's not a natural material okay the Imp misn really should we need to fix that it's really about an improvement or or nature so and when we when you guys know that please let me know because I would love to improve if I can also that was not even something in it was intention it was intentional the question but it was just something that if it was okay then we're going to go ahead and do it and if not then we're not even going to bother about and try to make the grass look better and whatnot what about other types of plants that you might and choose other than grass that are maybe shade tolerant that might be a problem oh no yeah I thought I thought about that but we don't want to make any decorations we just want to have it nice and neat and for parking purposes also so right but there could be other ground cover that's not grass that could be shade tolerant do you recommend any no not off the top of my head but I'm sure that there is look into it I was just I was just thinking Turf because it is considered to the city that it's okay to use Turf as perious so I just thought maybe it would be something but it was just a question so I don't want to take too much of your guys time but thank you for answering that now I do have a um question in regards to cport um as per my understanding the it has has to be 20 20 x 20 aluminum and 5T setb from the side and from the front property line yes okay now within that question 5T from the property line so that's probably going to make me 20 by 20 if I wanted to go narrower would I be able to extend a little further to feet two cars like one car behind the other so 20 by 20 I believe is the maximum size um so it but I don't think it means that you can be 15 by 25 I don't think it's not a percentage it's not like it's called out as like 100 100 square feet like a like a shed a shed says 100 square feet so that means it could be rectangular it could be square this says it's pretty clear it says 20 by 20 so they answer your question if you want to make it yeah it says limit to 20 feet by 20 each other yeah but the driveway we built it as 14 oh okay no I mean you can be less than 20 that's what your question was yeah can I be less than 20 but long lengthier at least so we can use the driveway because at this point we can use the driveway but then we cannot cover the car and with this seat in Florida is unbearable we just trying to figure out a way but is your house more than 30t back from the property line because I'm just thinking like 20 feet plus 5et front setback that's 25t so I mean you're pretty close can I use yeah I know with the five five feet setback from the from the property line right yes yeah that wouldn't give me much but if I can use that little much I think it's going to be 25 feet or and if it's so am I allow to narrow it down and make it 25 would it be allow and if it is property line why I'm not allowed to use my property line like well just up to it I mean if I do have a five feet back from the Stream but it has to be from the property line from the property line yeah so no yeah again the code just says maximum size of 20 feet by 20 feet it doesn't say maximum 400 square feet right so it has to be within it has to be 20 by 20 cannot be or can it be 14 by 20 yeah be smaller just onean want to do 14 by 20 that's and if it has the property line has uh the the property line has I I go back 5 feet then it's 22 it's it's not okay yeah know five foot is not negotiable it's got to be five foot set back and then right and then the additional I can't oh maximum of 20 so there's no way around okay um and then my neighbor um said it would be it's totally okay with the setback for the cart Port um like by right by her gate if she writes a letter and and no there's no variance to that that's not how it works no okay so I have me there's a Varian Vari process it's not your letter your neighbor writes a letter that's not what what that process is okay so you wouldn't help because I've I've overheard that and thinking well the city has to approve anything before even the neighbor allowing but I if does that even exist the neighbor letter saying it's okay it would be considered a a testimony in your in your favor that your neighbor says it's okay but it wouldn't be an it wouldn't be the excuse to say yes you can do it right it would be a to yeah you would have to prove your um your case of um of why you have this hardship that you have to have a roof structure and take it right up to the property line is that what you're asking for um so you'd have to meet the points of a variance of why it's not property line is to her side to like to the side to the so it's even on her prop it overhangs her property no it doesn't overhang so the variance request applic the variance process is there as an as a um makes as a as an option an option yeah okay um 14 feet I guess oh is there any code for mailbox um there there is no code um so I'm going to defer back to um just first off the the the as the artificial turf in the RightWay you know I I bring up the fact is that our code specifically says what is allowed in the RightWay and astr turf is not or as artificial turf is not something that is an allowable surface in the the think same standard in my opinion is the mailbox mailboxes are not in the in the code for an allowable RightWay but we've had there's been multiple discussions over mailboxes over the years about um allowing them up against the street and so there's I don't know did you get did you get cited for a mailbox or something or no I want to do the things right before I even get anything so I came with my mailbox and I saw this wonderful lady she's always there help helping all of us and she said I don't have the right answer it's best that I maybe come and ask you this question so um and I think what she said and mentioned it to me which it does make sense um just so it's up to code uh to have it inside of your property line so can I put it outside or no what's because we I see every neighbor so we're thinking that's the right way of doing but then so that's the thing is there's it's it's become one of those things where people have done it and there's so many people have done it that they I don't I don't even I've kind of given up on trying to make the argument that it should be on your property right um which to me that's the way code reads it but there are all these people with mailboxes up against the street um you know post mailboxes so I I I to be honest I think uh it helps identify bu the the the Amazon or whoever is bringing letter USPS ups but at the same time I think it's it's it's cleaner have it inside of your proper lens you're standard post mailbox I don't think you would there would be I don't think you would get in trouble let's put it that I wouldn't do it standard I want to make my could they ended up they ended up going to the commission and they ended up were able to keep it yeah I'm not building a monument but I'm building something nice out of aluminum with lights and things like that but is that allowed you know I don't know that's that's that's what concerns me is what are you planning on the building it's you're making it seem like if I we say yes and then you're with lights and this and that and next thing you know we no it's a solar structure you know it's solar it's a post with a mailbox I don't think there' be an issue but if it starts becoming like this entire elaborate like structure in the right way then there's going to be probably a push back on it let's put it that way if it's a discret mailbox post you see it everywhere you know that's one thing just be careful with um building anything beyond that okay would and the risk that it's going to get run over and the risk that maybe I might maybe I just it happened to my neighbor like three times I that myself yeah that I think that's it thank you so much you guys um I'll just have the last question but I can ask her for um extension uh if I don't have time to to um G let you talk to her yes please sorry and then here's your here's your plan back I'm gonna give that back to you all right you're welcome all right let's get back up to the top of our agenda all right we got the do we have the minutes here I have the minutes from the August 5th 2024 meeting e whatever happened with that guy he never came back the guy the guy with the gate on the side that he took out the fence and he okay he's deciding what he's going to do and the little trellis over the gate in the front he okay okay second fa say I I motion carries all right back up to the agenda um 6D um I'm sorry 5D I'm sorry excuse me my 5D 11935 Northeast 5th Avenue temporary construction fence okay resubmitting it to show the fence down the middle this is the guy that had the double lot that we told me fence down the middle um temporary 11 so he he's filling in it looks like the the front part of the one side and then down the middle I guess that's how I'm reading this yeah this but we I thought we approved this the last time say I I carries all right next will be 6A 920 noreast 117 Street flat re roof we got a elections tomorrow we to go vote this has got a lot of lot of multiple roof levels 920 Northeast 117 920 920 920 so this is across the street from from the the one we the the new house on the corner almost yeah it's there's a whole bunch of flat roof houses right in there second I'll say hi hi next is going to be 6D 1014 Northeast 116 street uh flat roof motion to approve Charlotte Ed all in favor to say I I bar 6E 11107 noreast 117 Street gravel driveway calculations 8.81 9% seems a little fishy but it is actually a really big Corner y yard I see a survey with nothing on it oh no they don't put anything for impervious yeah it's gra oh oh sorry I the two things they don't have their their calculations don't appear to be correct and there's we don't have no idea where they're planning to do it where's the driveway at um let's deny it second Scarlet say I I the motion to is approved just no driveways indicated on survey yeah sufficient information next six 110001 Northeast 8th Court impact Windows and Doors Five windows two doors look like they're bronze Ben door door oh two and unforunately one is single hung 36 by 65 and then a picture window 72 by say single hung picture single hung so there's but they're not the right style so I mean they could they just did you know roll outs basically basements they would um they would all look the same cifi what this language about the uniformity it was codified yeah I mean so it's all exterior doors on the face stre facing it is in the code yeah it's it's just one of those remember the thing that came down from the legislature last year where they were kind of you know gabled roofs and things like that well one of the things that it talked about was Windows so um um it's one of those it's a gray area I've always personally had a bit of a problem with our denial before I my masking it's clearly expelled out in the code versus before we were just forcing something because we felt like it it was part of the the latest code update that we did I say deny it is that a motion yep motion second say I I motion car work there if I didn't want to second no I can I can I technically shouldn't first something okay so you second and I'm gonna descend from my vote you have your majority not that I voted against the two two D1 appr no it was approved hi there how are you huh oh you you listening you're watching the video no that should well no we just we just approved the minutes from last time and I'm like well whatever happened to this guy the trellis okay well thank you for coming by and telling us that yeah it's proba and it's probably the easiest thing than trying to go through a variance and the all that stuff that you were going to it just yeah okay okay thanks thanks for coming thanks for coming in for the update I love that I've never had that happen before yeah talking about me they show up time thanks sir thank you appreciate that all right so we are looking at 6G 11130 Northeast Avenue Jingo re roof Royal what do we got going on here shingles okay okay 11130 by the way they never came back are they on the agenda for no my neighbors the ones that wanted to do the single Roof then metal roof and then now they want to do a tile roof but they can do a green tile rout they make green tile well that no second hold on let me just you don't see you scrolled all the way through the okay motion second all in favor say I I okay a 6 I 11210 Northeast 10th Avenue impact doors installation second Scarlet I I cues next is going to be 6j 11401 Northeast 8 Avenue a wooden fence foot wood I don't have to be but I'm just saying it's know can it zoom out a little bit wood fence board on board fo High okay where is it located oh back it's a very interesting survey that it looks like the other side has a wood fence already they're tying into it okay motion to approve called add on I I carries six 11810 Northeast 9th Avenue uh impact windows and doors ubas oh this interesting U way of doing your windows or anything actually simp and posing them on there but but they're not actually on the front of the house they look like they're on the side of the house if you look at that schedule there's it says front door and then horizontal roller number two horizontal right there there's a couple windows in the bedroom yeah they look like they're facing the back because if the front door is over here there is one French door in in the front things head they don't face the street so I'm assuming that's the street and door there the application say placement of four doors and two windows this onday I I all right motion to adjourn let's just check hold on before we go I know you guys want to get out here the agenda um so our next meeting is going to be on September 9th I believe so the 9th and the 23rd is everybody going to be able to make the 9th the week after for Labor Day yes okay so we're good at least three of us if we could check with um um David and then we have an application I believe in for um somebody to join the board great us a little little relief it is so um you guys had like play dates with your infant kids no no you mentioned yeah I know but I'm just saying they they as neighbors they've got two kids you got one kid yeah no I don't think I've ever met him other than being hereen divide oh you don't go over there huh all right so I have a motion to adjourn all in favor say I I okay we are adjourned at 8