##VIDEO ID:TiogH6jyTSI## . GOOD EVENING EVERYONE AND WELCOME. I WILL CALL THIS BLOOMINGTON CITY COUNCIL BUSINESS MEETING TO ORDER TONIGHT AS MONDAY SEPTEMBER 9TH, 2024. THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR WHO IS JOINING US HERE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS AND EVERYBODY WHO IS WATCHING AT HOME ONLINE.  WE WILL START OUR MEETING AS WE ALWAYS DO. IF YOU ARE ABLE PLEASE STAND JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.  I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.  THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND ONCE AGAIN WELCOME TONIGHT COUNSEL. WELCOME. FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS TO APPROVE TONIGHT'S AGENDA AND ON THAT AGENDA EVENING UNDER OUR INTRODUCTORY ITEMS WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION FOR SUICIDE PREVENTION MONTH AND WEEK. WE ALSO HAVE ITEMS TO POINT TO. WE HAVE OUR HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION APPOINTMENTS AND 2.3 IS AN APPOINTMENT OF A YOUNG ADULT MEMBER TO THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION.  OUR CONSENT BUSINESS HAS 12 ITEMS TONIGHT COUNCILMEMBER NELSON HAS OUR CONSENT AGENDA THIS EVENING. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER UNDER HEARINGS RESOLUTIONS, ORDINANCES WE HAVE SEVEN DIFFERENT ITEMS UNDER THAT ITEM 4.1 IS A RESOLUTION ADOPTING A PRELIMINARY 25 TAX LEVY AND 4.2 OF THE RESOLUTION ADOPTING THE PRELIMINARY 2025 GENERAL FUND BUDGET PUBLIC HEARINGS ITEM 4.3 THROUGH 4.7 OUR ASSESSMENTS THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS TONIGHT AND 4.3 IS A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING THE PUBLIC NUISANCE ASSESSMENT 4.4 A HEARING ON TREE REMOVAL ASSESSMENTS 4.5 HEARING ON WEED AND BRUSH REMOVAL ASSESSMENTS  4.6 A HEARING ON DELINQUENT WATER SEWER, STORMWATER DRAINAGE, GARBAGE RECYCLING AND ORGANICS ASSESSMENTS AND 4.7 AS A HEARING ON CIVIL FINES FOR PROPERTY RELATED VIOLATION ASSESSMENTS UNDER OUR ORGANIZATIONAL BUSINESS ITEM FIVE ITEM 5.1 WILL BE A REPORT AN UPDATE ON OUR OPPORTUNITY HOUSING ORDINANCE AND WE WILL FINISH THE EVENING AS WE ALWAYS DO.  ITEM 5.2 OUR CITY COUNCIL POLICY AND ISSUE UPDATES COUNCIL ANY QUESTIONS OR UPDATES OR CORRECTIONS TO TONIGHT'S AGENDA AS STATED IF NOT I WILL MOVE APPROVAL OF TONIGHT'S AGENDA MOTION AND THE SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO ACCEPT TONIGHT'S AGENDA AS STATED NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSE THE MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND WE HAVE AN AGENDA AND OUR FIRST AGENDA ITEM IS ITEM 2.1 IT'S A PROCLAMATION AND I'M GOING TO A QUICK DRINK OF WATER AND HEAD DOWN TO THE PODIUM .  AS I MENTIONED, OUR PROCLAMATION TONIGHT IS FOR NATIONAL SUICIDE PREVENTION WEEK WHICH IS SEPTEMBER 8TH THROUGH THE 14TH OF THIS YEAR AND SEPTEMBER IS NATIONAL SUICIDE PREVENTION MONTH AND THIS PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZES BOTH OF THOSE DATES EVENTS WHEREAS SUICIDE IS A MAJOR PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE THAT REQUIRES VIGILANT ATTENTION AND PREVENTIVE ACTION WITH HUNDRED AND 15 MINNESOTANS DYING BY SUICIDE IN 2023. AND. WHEREAS EACH DEATH BY SUICIDE DIRECTLY IMPACTS NUMEROUS FAMILY AND FAMILY MEMBERS FRIENDS LOVED ONES AND BY EXTENSION THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY . AND. WHEREAS, THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON IS COMMITTED TO ENSURING THAT THOSE IN NEED HAVE ACCESS TO SERVICES BY HEALTH CARE PROVIDERS TRAINED IN BEST PRACTICES TO REDUCE SUICIDE RISK AND TO REDUCING THE STIGMA ASSOCIATED USING BEHAVIORAL HEALTH TREATMENT OR LOSING A LOVED ONE TO SUICIDE. AND. WHEREAS, THE BLOOMINGTON PUBLIC HEALTH IS LEADING A COMMUNITY HEALTH ASSESSMENT WITH A FOCUS ON MENTAL HEALTH WORKING WITH COMMUNITY PARTNERS AND ENGAGING RESIDENTS TO IDENTIFY BARRIERS AND RESOURCES. AND. WHEREAS, THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON RECOGNIZES ORGANIZED SUCH AS SUICIDE AWARENESS, VOICES OF EDUCATION SAVE AND ITS OWN INTERNAL BLOOMINGTON CARES TEAM FOR THEIR EFFORTS IN THE PUBLIC AND PROVIDING SERVICES FOR THOSE AT RISK.  AND. WHEREAS, THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER IS RECOGNIZED AS SUICIDE PREVENTION AND SEPTEMBER 8TH THROUGH THE 14TH IS RECOGNIZED ACROSS THE UNITED STATES AS SUICIDE PREVENTION WEEK NOW THEREFORE I MAYOR TIM BUSSEY DO HEREBY PROCLAIM SEPTEMBER AS PREVENTION MONTH AND SEPTEMBER 8TH THROUGH THE 14TH AS NATIONAL SUICIDE PREVENTION WEEK IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON, MINNESOTA AND UPON THE PEOPLE OF BLOOMINGTON TO OBSERVE THIS MONTH AND WEEK BY WORKING WITH YOUR FAMILIES ,FRIENDS, NEIGHBORS AND COWORKERS AND LEADERS TO BECOME MORE INFORMED OF MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES THAT CONTRIBUTE TO SUICIDE DATA. THIS NINTH DAY OF SEPTEMBER 2020. FOR NOW I DIDN'T REALIZE ACCORDING TO THE CENTER FOR DISEASE CONTROL SUICIDE IS THE LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH AND AFFECTS OF ALL AGES.  SUICIDE IS A SERIOUS PUBLIC HEALTH PROBLEM AND HAS FAR REACHING IMPACT. BUT AS WE ALL KNOW RESOURCES ARE AVAILABLE TO HELP AND PREVENT SUICIDE. AND ONE OF THOSE ORGANIZATIONS IS LIKE SAVE OUR SAVE OFFERS TRAINING AND EDUCATION AND THEY'RE ONE STEP AHEAD IS AN ONLINE SELF LED SUICIDE PREVENTION TRAINING THAT EDUCATES ON THE BASIC FACTS OF SUICIDE AND DEMONSTRATES HOW TO SUPPORT SOMEONE WHO IS SUICIDAL. YOU CAN FIND OUT MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THEIR TRAINING ON THEIR WEBSITE SAVE WARD AND I WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT HELP IS JUST A CALL OR A TEXT AWAY FOR ANYONE IN MENTAL HEALTH CSIS INDIVIDUALS ANYWHERE IN THE UNITED STATES CAN OR TEXT 988 FOR HELP AND.  I WANT TO RECOGNIZE OUR CITY STAFF THAT HAVE BEEN PERSONALLY AFFECTED BY THE LOSS A LOVED ONE TO SUICIDE AND FOR THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN IMPACTED BY ATTEMPTED SUICIDE OR SUICIDE IDEATION. I ALSO WANT TO THANK STAFF WHO HAVE WORKED TO PROMOTE SUICIDE PREVENTION AND REDUCE THE STIGMA ASSOCIATED WITH SUICIDE. WE HAVE WITH US TONIGHT FROM OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT KATIE ZERO KATIE I'D LIKE TO WRITE YOU UP IF YOU HAVE SOME WORDS TO SHARE WITH US AND THANK YOU SO VERY FOR BEING HERE.  THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL HAVING THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE THIS PROCLAMATION. I'M HONORED TO TALK ABOUT THE BLOOMINGTON CARES TEAM WHICH IS MADE UP OF A GROUP OF EMPLOYEES.  WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR MORE CITY EMPLOYEES TO JOIN AS WELL BUT WE'RE CURRENTLY FROM POLICE PUBLIC HEALTH AND INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY AND WE'RE WORKING TO SHARE INFORMATION ABOUT SUICIDE AND SUICIDE PREVENTION. WE STRIVE TO COMPASSIONATELY RECOGNIZE THE LIVES TOUCHED BY SUICIDE ATTEMPTED SUICIDE AND SUICIDE IDEATION AND WE ARE CURRENTLY PARTNERING WITH SAVE ON COMMUNITY EVENTS TO HONOR EVENT CALLED THE HELP HEAL HOPE FOR WORLD SUICIDE DAY AND THAT EVENT IS HERE IN BLOOMINGTON AT THEIR NATIONAL.  WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE THAT THEY'RE LOCATED HERE IN BLOOMINGTON SO THAT WILL BE TOMORROW STARTING AT 11. BUT THE MAIN EVENT REALLY OFF AROUND NOON. AND MAYOR, THANK YOU FOR BEING IN ATTENDANCE AT THAT TOMORROW AS WELL. INFORMATION IS ON THE CITY WEBSITE ABOUT EVENT FOR ANYONE LOOKING FOR MORE INFORMATION. IT IS OUR HOPE TO BROADEN THE SCOPE OF THE BLOOMINGTON CARES TEAM TO INCLUDE COMMUNITY MEMBERS IN FUTURE.  WE ALSO HAVE A GOAL AND A VISION OF IMPLEMENTING SUICIDE MEMORIAL. I PERSONALLY HAVE EXPERIENCED FAR TOO MANY FAMILY MEMBERS LOST TO SUICIDE, MANY BEING YOUNG MEN INCLUDING MY BROTHER. THIS WORK TO BRING AWARENESS AND LESSEN THE STIGMA AROUND SUICIDE IS SO IMPORTANT. SUICIDE PREVENTION STARTS WITH RECOGNIZING WARNING SIGNS AND TAKING THEM SERIOUSLY.  HOWEVER, TALKING TO SOMEONE ABOUT THESE SIGNS AND SYMPTOMS CAN FEEL EXTREMELY DIFFICULT IF YOU'RE UNSURE WHETHER SOMEONE IS SUICIDAL. THE BEST WAY TO FIND OUT IS TO ASK IF YOU'RE UNSURE. ASKING THEM DOESN'T CAUSE THEM TO BE MORE SUICIDAL.  IT JUST SHOWS THAT YOU CARE. IN FACT GIVING SUICIDAL PERSON THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS THEIR FEELINGS CAN PROVIDE RELIEF FROM LONELINESS AND FEELINGS THAT MAYBE MAY BE HARBORING WHEN TRYING TO HELP SOMEONE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE ALL THE RIGHT WORDS BUT YOU CAN RELY ON PLACES LIKE NINE, EIGHT, EIGHT AND SAVE ORGANIZATIONS LOCALLY TO HELP YOU. SHOWING YOU CARE MAY PREVENT A SUICIDE ATTEMPT AND HOW IMPACTFUL MEANINGFUL IS THAT? SO THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO ACKNOWLEDGE THIS AND THIS PROCLAMATION. WELL THANK YOU AND IF YOU COULD SHARE OUR THANKS TO THE ENTIRE CARES TEAM BECAUSE I KNOW THEY THEY PUT THEIR HEART AND SOUL INTO A LOT OF THIS WORK AND SO IT'S GREATLY APPRECIATED.  AND IF YOU COULD SHARE OUR APPRECIATION WITH THEM AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR GOOD WORK AS WELL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH .  MOVING ON COUNSEL NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS 2.2 AND IT IS AN APPOINTMENT TO THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION AND WE ARE IN A SITUATION WHERE WE'VE GOT A HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSIONER LOOKING TO RESIGN HIS POSITION AND MID-TERM AND WE'RE LOOKING TO APPOINT A REPLACEMENT COMMISSIONER WE HAVE ONE PERSON WHO HAS COME FORWARD A POSSIBLE APPOINTMENT. I KNOW THAT FOLKS THE LAST ROUND OF INTERVIEWS I THINK THERE WERE UP TO FOUR OR FIVE DIFFERENT FOLKS WHO HAD BEEN RECOMMENDED OR AT LEAST WERE PART OF THE INTERVIEW PROCESS LAST TIME AND THREE OR FOUR OF THOSE FOLKS DID NOT COME FORWARD. WE ONLY HAD ONE PERSON COME FORWARD FOR POSSIBLE APPOINTMENT TO THE HUMAN RIGHTS AND I KNOW THERE HAS BEEN SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. COUNCILMEMBER YOUR QUESTIONS OR YOUR CONCERNS. YEAH. THANKS, MAYOR.  FIRST I DON'T WANT THIS TO REFLECT ON THE INDIVIDUAL THAT DID APPLY BUT YOU KNOW WE HAVE BEEN VERY FORTUNATE IN ALL OF OUR COMMISSIONS THAT WE IN OUR NORMAL ROUTINE PROCESS WHERE WE OUT AND ASK FOR APPLICANTS WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF REALLY GREAT PEOPLE. IN THIS CASE WE HAVE ONE OPENING ONE PERSON AND IT WAS FROM THE ROUND BEFORE AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING IF WE DON'T MAKE AN APPOINTMENT HERE ALL WE DO IS JUST OF PUSH IT BACK MONTHS INTO EARLY NEXT YEAR AND WE MAY BROADEN THAT APPLICANT POOL AGAIN JUST NOT A REFLECTION ON THE INDIVIDUAL THAT APPLIED OR ANYTHING LIKE I JUST THINK IT'S MY OPINION IS IT MIGHT BE BENEFICIAL TO WAIT AND JUST DO YOU KNOW TAKE A LOOK AT THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY WHO WANTS TO DO THAT. I ASSUME THERE WILL BE POTENTIALLY OTHER OPENINGS THERE AND STRONGLY THIS INDIVIDUAL TO APPLY BUT THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE SITUATION AND JUST KIND OF MY THOUGHTS INITIALLY ON THAT AND APPRECIATE THOSE THOUGHTS COUNCIL MEMBER AND I THINK I THINK YOU CAN IT WELL IT'S NOT A REFLECTION ON THE CURRENT SOLO PERSON IT'S JUST THE POSSIBILITY AND THE OPPORTUNITY NEXT SPRING WHEN WE THE FULL APPOINTMENT TO OPEN IT UP FOR A LARGE NUMBER AND AS YOU SAID THE PERSON WHO IS THE SOLE APPLICANT AND THE SOLE POSSIBILITY NOW COULD CERTAINLY APPLY FOR THAT COUNCIL ANY QUESTIONS OR THOUGHTS OR OPINIONS ON THAT?  SO WHY DON'T WE IF YOU COULD COUNCIL MEMBER I THINK WHY DON'T WE WHY DON'T WE MAKE A MOTION PERHAPS TO TO HOLD THIS OFF TO TO LEAVE THIS APPOINTMENT OPEN UNTIL THE APPOINTMENT PROCESS IN THE SPRING FOR THE REST OF OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS I'D NOT TO APPOINT ANYONE AT THIS TIME AND WAIT UNTIL THE FORMAL PROCESS IN THE SPRING.  SECOND MOTION IN A SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN TO I'LL HOLD OFF ON THE APPOINTMENT FOR THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION OPENING THE FORMAL PROCESS BEGINS IN THE SPRING ANY ADDITIONAL COUNCIL ON THIS IF NOT ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO THANK YOU. THANKS FOR BRINGING THAT CONCERN FORWARD. COUNCILMEMBER I THINK THAT MAKES GOOD SENSE. WELL DONE WITH THAT BRINGS US ITEM 2.3 ON OUR AGENDA ANOTHER APPOINTMENT AND THIS IS FOR ALSO TO THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION AND THIS IS THE APPOINTMENT OF A YOUNG ADULT MEMBER.  WE DID HAVE FOUR DIFFERENT POSSIBILITIES OF IN OUR POOL HERE FOR THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION YOUNG ADULT APPOINTMENTS AND YOU HAVE THE INFORMATION I THINK SO FAR PROVIDED EVERYBODY WITH THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION OR AT LEAST THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE FOR THESE FOLKS AND WE WILL DO IT AS WE TYPICALLY DO. WE'VE FOUR FOLKS HERE WE WILL GO DOWN THE HERE AND WE WILL VOTE AND SO FAR WE'LL CALL OFF OUR NAMES AND WE'LL ALL VOTE WHO WERE IN FAVOR OF IF WE IF WE HAVE CONSENSUS IF WE GET TO FOUR VOTES ON THE FIRST ROUND WE'VE GOT AN APPOINTMENT. IF NOT WHAT DO THEN IS LOOK PERHAPS AT THE THE ONE OR TWO LOWEST FOLKS WHO DON'T RECEIVE VOTES AND THEN PERHAPS TRYING FIGURE OUT THE THE PATH FORWARD FROM THERE. BUT WE HAVE WE HAVE FOUR DIFFERENT POSSIBILITIES. YOU HAVE THE NAMES IN FRONT OF YOU ON YOUR SHEET SO FAR YOU'VE GOT THE NAMES AS WELL. IF YOU COULD CALL THE FOLKS AND WHY DON'T WE WE DO THE VOTING HERE THERE.  CAN I MAKE ONE QUICK COMMENT? COUNCILMEMBER NELSON YEAH. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I JUST WANT FOR THAT JUST HEARD MY COMMENTS ON THE PREVIOUS ONE. THIS IS THE PROCESS BECAUSE THESE ARE YOUTH MEMBERS AND IT HAS TO DO WITH THE SCHOOL YEAR. SO THIS IS OUR NORMAL PROCESS JUST SO THAT PEOPLE THINK THERE'S A DIFFERENT WAY WE'RE HANDLING THIS. THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.  THAT'S A GOOD UPDATE. I APPRECIATE THAT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS COUNCIL COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS YEAH. DO WE HAVE ANY OF THE APPLICANTS PRESENT HERE? I NOT SURE.  DO WE HAVE ANY OF THE APPLICANTS PRESENT? I THINK IT WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE TO TO MEET THEM PERSONALLY TO HAVE A BETTER OPINION AT THE THE STRENGTH OF HAVING THE FORMAL PROCESS IN THE SPRING AS WE DO IS THAT WE DO EVERYBODY IN FOR AN INTERVIEW. WE HAVE DIFFERENT SUBCOMMITTEES DIFFERENT GROUPS WHERE WE'RE ABLE TO TO MEET WITH THEM AND AT LEAST MEET THEM AND THEN THAT SUBCOMMITTEE MOVES FORWARD WITH A RECOMMENDATION TO THE TO THE REST OF THE COUNCIL.  THE FACT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO TIE THIS IN WITH THE SCHOOL YEAR I THINK JUST A MATTER OF THE TIMING AND TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY GET ON BOARD AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE AND THAT WE DON'T PUSH THIS TOO FAR INTO THE SCHOOL YEAR. SO WE'RE NOT YOU KNOW IT'S NOT NOVEMBER OR DECEMBER BEFORE THIS PERSON GETS ACTUALLY SEATED ON THE ON THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION.  AND ANY OTHER QUESTIONS READY SO FAR IF YOU COULD PLEASE MOVE?  ALTHEA FAULKNER AND GRACIE LEE BACK.  CARTER FAULKNER AND LEE BACK.  D'ALESSANDRO FAULKNER AND BACK REVERSED COURSE.  NELSON LEE BACK FAULKNER LOHMANN CHANGE IT UP YET AGAIN NUMBER FOUR AND NUMBER FIVE AND MAYOR BUZZI I WILL GO WITH ON THE BACK AND FAULKNER THANK YOU THANK YOU COUNSEL IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE UNANIMOUS CONSENT AROUND ALTHEA FAULKNER AND GRACIE LEE MACK TO BE APPOINTED TO THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION. I WOULD LOOK FOR A MOTION TO DO SO. REMEMBER CARTER COUNCIL MEMBER CARTER WITH THE MOTION SECOND COUNCILMEMBER WITH THE SECOND TO A POINT ALTHEA FAULKNER AND GRACIE BACK TO THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION AS YOUNG ADULT APPOINTMENTS NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO CONGRATULATIONS TO ALTHEA AND GRACIE AND LOOK FORWARD TO MEETING YOU AND WORKING WITH YOU AS MEMBERS OF THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION.  WE WILL MOVE ON TO OUR AGENDA ITEM THREE OUR CONSENT BUSINESS AND OUR CONSENT BUSINESS.  COUNCILMEMBER NELSON YOU'VE GOT CONSENT BUSINESS TONIGHT WE HAVE 12 ITEMS AS A MEMBER. THANKS MAYOR. I DID NOT HEAR OF ANYONE WHO WANTED TO HOLD ANY ITEMS I WILL HOLD ITEM 3.3. I JUST WANT TO SEE IF ANYBODY WANTED TO HOLD ANYTHING ELSE.  I DID WANT TO POINT OUT WE'VE BEEN APPROACHED BY FOLKS REGARDING 3.7 FOR AN OPPORTUNITY TO EITHER HOLD THAT OR TO SPEAK ON THIS. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST COUNCIL IS THAT WE NOT PULL THAT OUT WE NOT HOLD THIS TONIGHT AND WE WE LOOK OPPORTUNITIES IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE TO TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE AND A BROADER ISSUE ALSO THE THE NOTION OF AIRPORT PARKING IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON EVERYBODY IS COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.  I'M SORRY, MR. MAYOR, CAN YOU CLARIFY YOUR POSITION FOR ME? I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND TO TO HOLD IT OR NOT TO HOLD TO NOT HOLD IT SO TO VOTE ON IT TO VOTE ON IT TONIGHT AND AND THEN WITH WITH THE AND I THINK AT THE END OF THE MEETING WHAT I WILL DO AS PART OF OUR UPDATE IS DIRECT STAFF TO COME FORWARD WITH OPTIONS ABOUT HOW ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF AIRPORT PARKING IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON.  OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THEN WITH THAT I WILL MOVE ON THREE ONE AND THREE TWO AND ITEMS 3.4 THROUGH 311 SECOND COUNCILMEMBER WE HAVE 12 ACTUALLY IT'S 12 THERE'S A BIG SPACE IS A BIG SPACE THERE I SEE THAT THIS IS WELL WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER NELSON DO WE HAVE A SECOND SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO WE'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR OUR CONSENT BUSINESS. THREE ITEMS 3.1, 3.2 AND THEN 3.4 THROUGH 3.12 AS STATED BY COUNCILMEMBER NELSON NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO COUNCILMEMBER NELSON ITEM 3.3 ARE DONATIONS YEAH.  THANK YOU MAYOR AND THANK YOU TO THE BLOOMINGTON COMMUNITY FOR THEIR GENEROSITY I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE WE RECEIVE DONATIONS FROM INDIVIDUALS BUSINESSES FOR OVER $10,000 FOR SUMMER FLAT. THAT'S FANTASTIC SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. IT'S SOMETHING I'VE BEEN ASKING FOR THAT WE KEEP TAKING A LOOK AT WAYS TO GENERATE REVENUES ON SOME OF THESE EVENTS AND SO THAT WAS GREAT TO SEE AND.  ALSO LIKE TO THANK THE GRANDMA AND MONKEY FAMILY FOR THEIR DONATIONS TO THE ANIMAL SHELTER. I KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT MORE AND MORE LATELY SO I APPRECIATE THAT PEOPLE ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT.  WE HAD A DONATION FROM LARK AND HOFFMAN A BLOOMINGTON BASED BUSINESS HERE AND THEY ARE SUPPORTING OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, A JOINT COMMUNITY POLICE PARTNERSHIP. AND THEN LAST ITEM ON THIS LIST THE DANIEL SOME PEOPLE MADE A DONATION ON BEHALF OF DANIEL MATLOCK AND THE CHEAPSKATE GOLFERS AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE I MENTION THAT BECAUSE I ASSUME THAT THEY MADE THE DONATION OUT OF THE MONEY THEY SAVED BY BEING CHEAPSKATES SO SO PLEASE BE FRUGAL AND DONATE TO YOUR COMMUNITY AND THEN WE ALSO RECEIVED A DONATION FROM CENTERPOINT ENERGY TO HELP PEOPLE GET SMOKE DETECTORS. WE KNOW THAT SOMETIMES BUDGETS ARE CHALLENGING FOR PEOPLE AND CENTERPOINT IS HELPING PEOPLE PROTECT THEIR FAMILY WITH SMOKE DETECTORS IN THEIR IF THEY'RE NOT IN A POSITION TO AFFORD THEM THEMSELVES.  AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST WE HAD A NUMBER OF DONATIONS FROM BUNDLES OF LOVE WHICH IS A REALLY COOL PROGRAM. WE PUT TOGETHER BUNDLES FOR FOR, YOU KNOW, INFANTS OF CLOTHING IN BLANKETS ALL THESE TYPES OF THINGS THAT THAT A YOU KNOW, AN INFANT WOULD NEED A FAMILY WOULD NEED FOR THEM AND SO VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THAT WITH THAT I WOULD MOVE APPROVAL OF ITEM 3.3 SO MOST OF MY CLIENTS REMEMBER SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER TO ACCEPT OUR DONATIONS AS STATED AND APPROPRIATELY THANKED AND ENCOURAGED STAFF AND OUR STAFF TO SEND THE APPROPRIATE THANK YOU LETTERS TO THOSE FOLKS WHO HAVE MADE THOSE DONATIONS TO THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON YOU KNOW FOR THE COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON ITEM 3.3 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I, I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER NELSON APPRECIATE YOUR WORK TONIGHT ON THIS WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM FOUR ARE HEARINGS, RESOLUTIONS AND ORDINANCES AND WE'RE GOING TO START ITEM 4.1 WHICH IS A RESOLUTION ADOPTING OUR 2025 TAX LEVY. ALL RIGHT. CARLSON IS  WITH US AGAIN THIS EVENING. GOOD EVENING. WELCOME. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL THIS EVENING AM PRESENTING THE PROPOSED PRELIMINARY 2025 PROPERTY TAX LEVY AND GENERAL FUND BUDGET FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. THIS PRESENTATION BUILDS ON THE BUDGET DISCUSSION FROM THE AUGUST 19TH SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING TONIGHT THE COUNCIL WILL SET THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT THAT THE 2025 PRELIMINARY TAX LEVY CAN BE.  THIS LEVY CAN BE REDUCED AT THE DECEMBER 16TH TRUTH AND TAXATION PUBLIC HEARING BUT NOT INCREASED THAN 25 PROPOSED BUDGET ADVANCES OUR MISSION OF CULTIVATING AN ENDURING AND REMARKABLE COMMUNITY WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO BE THAT ALIGNS WITH OUR KEY STRATEGIC PRIORITIES A CONNECTED AND WELCOMING COMMUNITY A HEALTHY COMMUNITY AND A COMMUNITY WITH EQUITABLE ECONOMIC GROWTH.  THIS EVENING'S AGENDA WILL FOCUS ON OUR PROCESS PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, THE CORE COMPONENTS OF THE PROPERTY TAX LEVY CALCULATION APPROACHES TO LOWER THE ORIGINAL LEVY CALCULATION IMPACTS OF THE PROPOSED PRELIMINARY 2025 TAX LEVY THE PRELIMINARY 2025 GENERAL FUND BUDGET AND THE REMAINING BUDGET CALENDAR FOR THIS YEAR INCLUDING PLAN DATES FOR UPCOMING DETAILED DISCUSSIONS.  FIRST I WILL START WITH A RECAP OF CITY'S ANNUAL BUDGET PROCESS. SO EACH YEAR CITY ENGAGE IN A COMPREHENSIVE BUDGET PROCESS TO DETERMINE THE COST OF THE SERVICES WE PROVIDE DEPARTMENTAL REQUESTS,  ADJUSTMENTS FOR ANTICIPATED EXPENSES, REVENUE PROJECTIONS AND FUNDING FOR NEW INITIATIVES.  THE DEPARTMENT BUDGETS ARE REVIEWED WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND HE ENSURES ALIGNMENT WITH THE CITY'S GOALS AND THE FINANCIAL CONSTRAINTS THAT WE HAVE AND OUR LONG TERM PLANS.  THIS COLLABORATIVE PROCESS ENSURES THAT THE BUDGET REFLECTS BLOOMINGTON AS BOTH A REMARKABLE COMMUNITY AND WORKPLACE FOR PEOPLE WANT TO BE AND ALIGN RESOURCES WITH THE CITY'S VISION FOR THE FUTURE.  SO NEXT I HAVE AN UPDATE ON OUR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AROUND THE BUDGET.  WE ARE CONTINUING TO ACTIVELY ENGAGE WITH THE COMMUNITY TO DISCUSS THE BUDGET AND CITY SPENDING.  WE WERE AT THE JUNETEENTH CELEBRATION ON JULY WEDNESDAY FARMERS AND ON AUGUST 17TH YOU'RE AT TWO EVENTS IN THE AFTERNOON WE WERE AT THE LEARNING LINK UP AT VALLEY DO YOU PLAY FIELDS AND IN THAT EVENING WE WERE AT THE ON THE ONE MUSIC FESTIVAL AND SOUTH LOOP INCLUDED IN THIS EVENING'S AGENDA MATERIALS IS FEEDBACK BOTH THE COMMUNITY IN PERSON EVENTS AND RESPONSES FROMHE LET'S BLOOMINGTON ONLINE SURVEY COMING UP STILL THE SATURDAY SEPTEMBER 14TH THERE WILL BE A BUDGET TABLE FOR LENGTH OF THE FARMERS MARKET AND THERE WILL ALSO BE TABLES AT THE PRIDE LATER THIS MONTH AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT OPEN HOUSE IN OCTOBER.  OUR BUDGET TABLES AT COMMUNITY EVENTS FEATURE AN ACTIVITY PARTICIPANTS USE CHIPS THAT REPRESENT PROPERTY TAXES ALLOCATING THEM ACROSS THE SIX CATEGORIES SHOWN HERE BASED ON THEIR ONE PRIORITIES FROM THE DATA COLLECTED FROM THOSE FIRST FOUR EVENTS I MENTIONED PARKS, ARTS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES AND EQUITABLE ECONOMIC GROWTH ARE TIED RIGHT NOW AT 19% WITH 329 CHIPS EACH FOLLOWED BY PUBLIC SAFETY WITH 275 CHIPS. AND WE ALSO HAVE THIS SIMILAR ACTIVITY ON THE ONLINE LET'S TALK BLOOMINGTON BUDGET PAGE AND HERE'S WHERE THE RESULTS ARE RIGHT NOW. PARTICIPANTS IN THIS ACTIVITY THEY RANK THOSE SAME PRIORITIES THAT I SHOWED ON THE SLIDE BUT THEY DO IT ON A SCALE FROM 1 TO 6 WITH ONE BEING THE HIGHEST PRIORITY.  SO THE INVESTMENTS THAT WE'RE MAKING BOTH HISTORICALLY AND INTO THE FUTURE ALIGN CLOSELY WITH THESE PRIORITIES.  THE ONLINE PAGE PARKS IS CURRENTLY RANKED THE HIGHEST FOLLOWED BY AND INFRASTRUCTURE AND THEN PUBLIC SAFETY. THIRD, IT'S AN REVIEW THE CORE COMPONENTS OF THE PROPERTY TAX LEVY THE CALCULATION THE PROPERTY TAX LEVY IS THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THE CITY REQUIRES FROM PROPERTY TAXES TO FUND THE BUDGET AND IT IS DETERMINED BY THE CITY'S OVERALL BUDGET MINUS THE OTHER SOURCES OF REVENUE SUCH AS STATE AID, LODGING TAXES, PROGRAM FEES, THE LEVY IS DISTRIBUTED ACROSS ALL TAXABLE PROPERTIES WITHIN THE CITY AND THE AMOUNT THAT EACH PROPERTY OWNER PAYS OF THE PROPERTY TAX LEVY IS ON THE ASSESSED VALUE OF THEIR PROPERTY.  THIS EVENING AS I SAID THE SAID THE PRELIMINARY PROPERTY TAX LEVY ESTABLISHING THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT THAT CAN BE LEVIED IN 2025 AND AS WE TALKED ABOUT ON AUGUST 19TH COMBINING ALL THE ADDITIONAL INITIAL BUDGET REQUESTS WHEN THEY CAME IN TOGETHER HAD RESULTED IN A PROPOSED TAX LEVY INCREASE OF NEARLY 16%. SO NEXT SLIDE IS THE DETAIL OF APPROACHES WE'VE PUT TOGETHER TO REDUCE THAT LEVY INCREASE TO 11.5%.  SO THIS IS THE LIST. SO REDUCING DOWN TO 11.5% FROM THAT INITIAL 15.94% IS ABOUT $3.5 MILLION. AND SO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED AS TO BRING THAT DOWN THAT WE CAN LOOK INTO WOULD BE INCREASING SOME OF THE REVENUES THAT WE HAVE IN PARKS AND RECREATION ALSO AND ENGINEERING WITH RIGHT OF WAY PERMITS. WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN RIGHT AWAY REVENUES THERE RIGHT AWAY PERMIT REVENUE I THE INITIAL STAFFING THAT INCREASE THAT WE HAVE FOR FIREFIGHTERS POTENTIALLY CHANGING THE NUMBER OR DELAYING THE START DATE OF THOSE NEW POSITIONS TRANSFERRING OVER $200,000 FROM THE FIRE PENSION FUND IF YOU RECALL FROM AUGUST 19TH. SOME OF THE PRESSURES ON THE LEVY IS THAT WE DID ADD WHEN WE FIRST RECEIVED THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN FUNDS THREE BATTALION CHIEFS THAT HAVE BEEN FUNDED BY THE AMERICAN PLAN FUNDS THAT IS RUNNING OUT THIS YEAR. SO TO KIND OF HELP EASE THAT IN SOME OF THE MONEY THAT WE HAVE IN THE FIRE PENSION FUND COMING IN POTENTIALLY ALSO WE DO HAVE IF WE DO RECEIVE THOSE SAFER GRANTS WE HAD 149,000 IN THE FIRE EQUIPMENT REQUEST THAT WAS IN THERE RIGHT NOW. AND IF WE DON'T RECEIVE THAT WE CAN TAKE THAT OUT. WE COULD DO RECEIVE THAT SAFE FOR GRANT WHICH WE'LL FIND OUT LATER THIS FALL THAT WILL ALSO HELP LOT WITH THIS BUDGET BUT WE DON'T KNOW THAT RIGHT NOW SO STAY TUNED FOR THAT 559,000 IS THERE'S A NUMBER OF INITIATIVES FUNDED AND IN GENERAL THE ORIGINAL GENERAL FUND REQUESTS AS WELL AS SOME INCREASES IN CAPITAL PROJECTS FOR PARKS AND RECREATION THAT WE ARE PROPOSING THOSE FUNDED FROM THE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES FUND RATHER THAN THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET THERE IS WITHIN THE ENGINEERING BUDGET 227,000 FOR AN ALTERNATIVE TRANSPORTATION STUDY THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO PUSH THAT OUT FURTHER THAN 2025 AS WELL AS LOOKING FOR SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR THAT FROM OTHER AGENCIES.  WE'VE IDENTIFIED $260,000 IN PROFESSIONAL SERVICES THAT WE REDUCE.  WE'RE LOOKING INTO THINGS THAT WE CAN DO WITH EMPLOYEE BENEFITS IN REGARDS TO THE CITY'S CONTRIBUTION FOR HEALTH INSURANCE, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT WE CAN POTENTIALLY REDUCE THE BUDGET THE INITIAL BUDGET REQUESTS AND THEN LAST TWO THINGS ARE TAKING WHAT THE PORTION OF THE LEVY FOR FORESTRY AND FOR THE NORMAL TAX ABATEMENT DISTRICT BACK DOWN TO THE LEVELS THAT THEY WERE IN 24 AND THAT WOULD BRING THAT DOWN SO THOSE ARE THE DETAILS OF THE MAJORITY OF MEMBER PROPOSING REDUCING THE INITIAL REQUESTS AND BY THREE AND A HALF MILLION .  AND SO THEN THIS NEXT SLIDE IS COMPARING 2024 TAX LEVY TO THIS PROPOSED 2025 TAX LEVY AND SHOWING IT FROM ABOUT 80.5 MILLION TO JUST UNDER 90 MILLION AND THAT'S A $9.2 MILLION INCREASE WHICH IS AN 11 AND A HALF PERCENT INCREASE . AND THE MAJORITY OF THAT YOU CAN SEE IS IN THE GENERAL FUND THERE IS AN INCREASE FOR COMMUNICATIONS AS WELL AS IN THE ART CENTER WHICH WE ARE PLANNING TO BRING THOSE BUDGETS IN OCTOBER AND NOVEMBER AND TALKING ABOUT THAT IN DETAIL YOU WILL SEE THERE IS A PROPERTY TAX LEVY FOR GOLF. THE 25 TAX LEVY THAT IS GOING AWAY. THERE IS AN FOR ICE GRANT AS WELL AS WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT AND THAT DUE TO THAT THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE SOME DECREASES WHEN THE BIG PROJECT GOES WHEN THE CONSTRUCTION HAPPENS NEXT YEAR AND THEN FOR DEBT SERVICE INCREASE BETWEEN 24 AND 25 IT'S A $451,000 INCREASE.  SO I'M JUST GOING TO FLIP BACK 1/2.  SO $9,255,000 IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING FOR AN INCREASE FOR THE FIVE TAX LEVY FOR THE PRELIMINARY AND THEN ANOTHER TO LOOK AT THAT IS TAKING ALL OF THE PUBLIC FACING DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE IN THE GENERAL FUND AND KIND OF ALLOCATING SOME OF THOSE INTERNAL CHARGES LIKE ADMINISTRATION AND LEGAL AND FINANCE AND KIND OF WHICH TOGETHER ABOUT A LITTLE OVER $800,000 OF THE INCREASE AND ALLOCATING THOSE PUBLIC FACING ONES AND JUST SHOWING WHAT THAT INCREASE LIKE BY DEPARTMENT SO YOU CAN SEE FOR THE WAY IT WORKS OUT IS ABOUT 4.74% FOR POLICE 2.74% FOR FIRE, 1.8 FOR PARKS AND 1.59 FOR COMMITTEE DEVELOPMENT,  1.35 FOR PUBLIC WORKS AND ACTUALLY COMMUNITY SERVICES IS COMING DOWN AND SOME OF THAT IS DUE TO SOME REORGANIZATION AND LEADERSHIP  AND THEN THIS IS THE IMPACT OF THE 11 AND A HALF PERCENT PROPERTY TAX LEVY ON THE MEDIAN VALUE HOME AND IF YOU RECALL FROM LAST MONTH WHEN I WAS HERE AND TALKING ABOUT HOW THE MEDIAN HOME HAS REMAINED RELATIVELY FLAT WHILE COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL VALUES HAVE HAD SOME GAINS AND THEN ALSO THE IMPACT OF HOMESTEAD MARKET VALUE EXCLUSION HIGHER SO AN IMPACT OF AN 11 AND A HALF PERCENT INCREASE TO THE TAX LEVY WOULD BE 9.27% INCREASE FOR THE MEDIAN HOME.  AND THEN YOU CAN SEE ON THE RIGHT THAT THAT TRANSLATES 2.53% PER WEEK, 1099 A MONTH AND $131.88 A YEAR. AND SO THAT'S FOR THE MEDIAN VALUE HOME AND THEN THERE'S A LOT NUMBERS ON THE SLIDE BUT KIND OF TAKE YOU THROUGH IT. THIS IS THE SLIDES ILLUSTRATING THE IMPACT ON VARIOUS HOME VALUES IN ADDITION TO THE MEDIAN VALUE HOME HOMESTEAD AND SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. SO THE MEDIAN VALUE HOME THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT IS HIGHLIGHTED THERE IN YELLOW AND LOOKING ACROSS AT THIS COLUMN, THE FIRST COLUMN HAS THE DIFFERENT RANGES OF HOME VALUES.  THAT SECOND COLUMN COLUMN INDICATES THE NUMBER OF HOMES WITHIN EACH RANGE AND THEN GOING ALONG THE CHART IT DISPLAYS THE 2024 TAX AMOUNT AND THEN THE PROJECTED 2025 TAX AMOUNT WITH THAT 11 AND A HALF PERCENT INCREASE AND THEN THOSE CORRESPONDING CHANGES IN BOTH PERCENTAGE CHANGE AND THEN DOLLAR CHANGES CALCULATED BOTH ANNUALLY AND MONTHLY AND THOSE ARE BASED ON THE MIDPOINT VALUE IN EACH OF THOSE RANGES.  SO WE THAT INFORMATION FROM OUR ASSESSING DEPARTMENT AND WE ALSO RECEIVE THIS INFORMATION AS WELL JUST TO KIND OF GIVE AN EXAMPLE OF THAT TAX LEVY INCREASE WOULD BE FOR COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES AS WELL AS APARTMENT BUILDINGS. SO THE VALUE I REPRESENT A TYPICAL PROPERTY FOR EACH CATEGORY THEN IT'S BASED ON THE PERCENTAGE CHANGE BASED ON THE ASSESSMENT REPORT VALUES AND THAT IN EACH OF THOSE SEGMENTS.  SO JUST I'LL JUST POINT OUT ON THE SLIDE THE APARTMENTS ARE LISTED AT THE AT THE BOTTOM THERE AND SO FOR THE MEDIAN VALUE HOME IT WAS 9.7% AND FOR APARTMENTS IT'S SIMILAR TO THAT BUT A LITTLE BIT LESS AT 7.77% AND 8.67%.  HERE IS THE PRELIMINARY 2025 GENERAL FUND REVENUE BREAKDOWN. SO FIRST ALSO REVENUES AND I'M GOING TO SHOW EXPENDITURES THEY'RE BOTH ABOUT $109 MILLION PROPERTY TAXES MAKES UP THE LARGEST PORTION OF THE GENERAL FUNDS REVENUES WE DO ALSO BUDGET FOR ESTIMATED DELINQUENCIES AND AFTER PROPERTY THE NEXT LARGEST SOURCE OF REVENUE IS THE LOCAL LODGING AND ADMISSION TAXES AND THAT'S ABOUT 10.5 MILLION AND AS I MENTIONED BEFORE THE LODGING TAX REVENUES ARE NEARING THOSE PRE-PANDEMIC LEVELS AND THAT THE ADMISSION TAXES HAVE ACTUALLY ALREADY EXCEEDED REVENUES THAT WE HAD IN 2019. ANOTHER THING I'LL POINT OUT IS THAT THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL REVENUE THERE IS AN INCREASE FROM 2024 THAT'S PRETTY SIGNIFICANT AND THAT'S PRIMARILY DUE TO A LARGER BASE GRANT FUNDING FOR PUBLIC HEALTH FROM THE STATE THAT DOES HAVE SOME CORRESPONDING ADDITIONAL EXPENDITURES PUBLIC HEALTH AND ALSO THE PERMIT REVENUES THAT WE'RE SHOWING RIGHT NOW BASED ON WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ARE A CONSIDERABLY THAN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS AND LOWER THAN THE TRUMP BUDGET AND THE NEXT IS THE GENERAL EXPENDITURE BREAKDOWN AND AS YOU CAN SEE HERE THE LARGEST IS POLICE. POLICE DEPARTMENT ACCOUNTS FOR NEARLY $38 MILLION OF THE BUDGET AMOUNTS ABOUT 35% OF THE TOTAL GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES COMBINED. IF YOU TAKE POLICE AND FIRE TOGETHER THAT'S ABOUT 49.5% OF THE BUDGET. AND THEN I'LL JUST POINT OUT TO AT THE TOP AND THOSE ARE THE INTERNAL SERVICES SUPPORT THE OTHER PUBLIC FACING DEPARTMENTS IN THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET THAT'S ALL TOGETHER WITH CITY COUNCIL AND LEGAL AND FINANCE IS 9% OF THE OVERALL BUDGET AND AND THEN ALSO WITHIN ADMINISTRATION I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT INCLUDES CITY MANAGERS OFFICE HUMAN RESOURCES OFFICE OF RACIAL EQUITY INCLUSION AND BELONGING AND OUR CITY CLERK IS ALL WITHIN ADMINISTRATION AND THEN FINALLY LOOKING AT THE BUDGET CALENDAR THE REMAINDER OF THIS YEAR LAST MONTH AND I WAS 19TH WAS THE SPECIAL COUNSEL SESSION JUST TO DISCUSS PRELIMINARY TAX LEVY AND NOW WE'RE ABOUT HALFWAY THROUGH THIS TIMELINE WITH THE COUNCIL SETTING THE PRELIMINARY LEVY TO NIGHT AFTER THIS AND WE'LL BE BACK A LOT OR WE'LL HAVE STAFF HERE A LOT TALKING ABOUT THE BUDGET HAVING ENDED PRESENTATIONS AT COUNCIL MEETINGS IN THE COMING WEEKS, FOLLOWED BY ANOTHER SPECIAL SESSION CITY COUNCIL MEETING JUST FOR BUDGET ON NOVEMBER 25TH AND THEN THE TRUTH AND TAXATION HEARING IS SET TO TAKE PLACE ON DECEMBER 16TH WHEN THE FINAL 2025 TAX LEVY WILL BE SET AND THE NEXT THIS MIGHT CHANGE BUT THIS IS A PROPOSED SCHEDULE OF WHEN THESE FOLLOW UP AND BUDGET PRESENTATIONS WILL TAKE PLACE AND SO ACTUALLY STARTING AT THE LAST MEETING IN SEPTEMBER WITH FIRE LEGAL AND STRATEGIC PRIORITIES FUND DISCUSSION OCTOBER 14TH WILL BE THE UTILITIES, THE FOUR UTILITY FUNDS AND ALONG WITH AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND THEN THERE IS A STUDY SESSION SCHEDULED FOR OCTOBER 21ST SO WE ARE LOOKING AT BRINGING A LOT THAT NIGHT. SO A DISCUSSION ABOUT EMPLOYEE BENEFITS AND BENEFITS I.T COMMUNICATIONS ADMINISTRATION, PUBLIC HEALTH AND AND THEN OCTOBER 28 WILL BE PARKS AND RECREATION AND POLICE THERE IS NOT A CITY COUNCIL MEETING RIGHT NOW WE JUST PUT THAT ON THERE JUST BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY ONE OFFICIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING WITH CITY COUNCIL BUSINESS IN NOVEMBER DUE TO VETERANS DAY IN THE SCHEDULE AND SO WE JUST HAD THAT ON THERE IF WE NEEDED SOME MORE DISCUSSION HOUR FOR YOU TO DECIDE BUT AND THEN NOVEMBER 18TH GOOD PUBLIC WORKS FLEET AND FACILITIES AND THEN THE THEN WE HAVE THE STUDY SESSION ON THE 25TH AND IF WE NEED IT ALSO DECEMBER 2ND AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION THANKS SO MUCH. THANKS FOR THE INFORMATION ONCE AGAIN AND THANKS FOR ANSWERING SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I KNOW THE COUNCIL BROUGHT FORWARD LAST WEEK OR THE LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT THIS SPECIFICALLY THE THE DETAILS ON THE CUTS THAT WENT IN FROM BRINGING THAT NUMBER DOWN. SO JUST A QUESTION, AN OBSERVATION I GUESS AS I AS I WAS LISTENING TO YOUR TAX INCREASE DEPARTMENT AND THEN LOOKING AT POLICE AND FIRE POLICE WITH $3.8 MILLION THAT CHANGED FROM 2020 FOR FIRE WITH 2.2 MILLION. SO THAT'S ABOUT THE CHANGE FROM 2023 TO 24. POLICE AND FIRE ARE ABOUT 6 MILLION OF THE TOTAL $9.25 MILLION AND SO THAT'S 65% THAT'S TWO THIRDS BASICALLY. AND AS I AS I RECALL I THINK TWO YEARS AGO I THINK POLICE AND FIRE WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE THE INCREASE I THINK THE POLICE AND FIRE WERE 80% OF THE INCREASE AND I BELIEVE LAST YEAR IT WAS ALSO IN THE SIXTIES.  SO I JUST MAKING THE OBSERVATION THE COMMENT AFTER HEARING FROM OUR COMMUNITY THE DESIRE AND THE NEED TO INVEST IN OUR PUBLIC SAFETY INFRA AND APPARATUS IN THE COMMUNITY WE HAVE DONE SO SIGNIFICANTLY OVER THE PAST THREE YEARS OR THE PAST TWO YEARS AND ARE PROPOSING TO DO SO AGAIN THIS YEAR. AND I THINK THAT'S THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR FOLKS REALIZE THAT THIS IS NOT ONLY A OBVIOUSLY A NECESSARY AND IMPORTANT INVESTMENT ESPECIALLY AS WE TALK FIRE MOVING TO A FULL TIME FIRE DEPARTMENT BUT ONE THAT WE HEARD CONSTANTLY FROM OUR RESIDENTS THAT TO HAPPEN IN OUR CITY PUBLIC SAFETY WAS THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY FOR SO LONG AND WE'RE RESPONDING IN APPROPRIATE WAYS IN THESE INVESTMENTS IN POLICE AND FIRE SO COUNCIL QUESTIONS, COMMENTS . COUNCILMEMBER CARTER. THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO ON THAT NOTE ACTUALLY ONE OF THE THINGS I WROTE DOWN TO YOUR POINT OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS WE'VE MADE REALLY SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENTS IN PUBLIC SAFETY AND WE'VE HAD THE ONGOING CONVERSATION AROUND OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT AND I THINK IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO JUST HAVE SOMETHING REALLY CLEARLY LAID OUT THAT TALKS ABOUT OUR LONGER TERM VISION FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT SO WE STARTED THREE FOUR YEARS AGO AND WHERE WE'RE GOING AND WHAT WE THINK THOSE KIND OF MILESTONES AND TIMELINE LOOK LIKE BECAUSE I MEAN THIS IS THESE ARE ONGOING INCREASES EVERY YEAR PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL IF YOU INCLUDE THE PERSONNEL AS WELL AS THE FIRE STATIONS THAT WE HAVE TO THE ONES THAT WE HAVEN'T REBUILT YET THE WAY TO REBUILD. AND SO TO YOUR POINT, MAYOR, I OUR OUR CITY THE RESIDENTS OF BLOOMINGTON ARE ON BOARD WITH US MAKING THESE INVESTMENTS.  BUT I THINK WE COULD DO A BETTER JOB OF REALLY LAYING OUT THE VISION WHAT WE'RE WORKING TOWARD COMPARED TO WHERE WE STARTED RIGHT.  NOT MEETING RESPONSE TIMES BECAUSE THEY JUST DIDN'T HAVE THE THE PERSONNEL THAT THEY NEEDED AND AND SO FORTH AND SO I WANTED KIND OF BUILD ON YOUR COMMENTS THERE. I DID HAVE A COUPLE OTHER I APPRECIATE THAT I'M GOING TO I SEEM TO BE WITH HIS MICROPHONE LIGHT ON.  I THINK HE WANTS TO CHIME IN BUT I AGREE WITH YOU COMPLETELY. I THINK IT IT ALWAYS HELPS TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THE INVESTMENTS,  NOT JUST THE NUMBERS BUT THERE'S A STORY BEHIND THOSE INVESTMENTS AND THOSE ONE I THINK LIKE IF I WAS A RESIDENT I WOULD SAY WELL WE YOU WE JUST MADE A LOT OF INVESTMENTS AND WE AND YOU JUST WE JUST KEEP MAKING MORE LIKE WHEN IT BE ENOUGH. BUT WE KNOW BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS FOR YEARS THAT THERE'S A LOT OF NEED AND WE ARE GOING TO BUILD FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT WE NEED IN BLOOMINGTON. IT'S JUST IT'S GOING TO TAKE MANY YEARS TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE EXACTLY WHAT A CITY OF 90,000 PLUS PEOPLE NEED.  MR. DRAGHI, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER CARTER, APPRECIATE THAT COMMENT AND I AGREE WITH YOU THAT I THINK DONE A GOOD JOB OF TALKING ABOUT IT OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS BUT WE HAVEN'T MAYBE REALLY DESCRIBED THE END STATE. RIGHT. WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE GET THERE IF A GET THERE POINT RATE AND SO WE CAN WORK WITH OUR DEPARTMENT TO MAYBE LAY THAT OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE CLEARLY FOR PEOPLE AND JUST DESCRIBING WHAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE ARE NOT TUNING INTO OUR BUDGET DISCUSSIONS AND HEARING FROM US DIRECTLY BUT FOR THE ONES WHO ARE TODAY JUST A REMINDER THAT WE STARTED DOWN THIS ROAD A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WITH THE COMMITMENT TO TRANSITION TO A FULL TIME HYBRID FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT WOULD ULTIMATELY HAVE SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 75 FULL TIME FIREFIGHTERS AND 60 TO 75 PART TIME FIREFIGHTERS AND HAVE BEEN ON A SIGNIFICANT STAFFING UPSWING SINCE THAT TIME BEGINNING WITH 18 PLUS THREE THAT WE GOT THROUGH A FEDERAL SAFER GRANT AND COMMITMENT TO ADD SIX FIREFIGHTERS A YEAR OVER THE COURSE OF ABOUT TEN YEARS TO GET THERE AND EACH YEAR JUST BASED ON WHERE WE STARTED IT'S ABOUT PERCENT OF LEVY INCREASE AND THEN IT COMES DOWN AND IT COMES DOWN A LITTLE BIT JUST BECAUSE THE TOTAL LEVY GETS MORE AND THEN WITH POLICE AGAIN IT'S A CONTINUATION OF INVESTMENT IN PUBLIC SAFETY . I THINK WE'RE RIGHTFULLY PROUD OF THE FACT THAT WE HAVE ONE OF AND I WOULD SAY MOST OF YOU PROBABLY AGREE BEST POLICE DEPARTMENT IN THE STATE OF MINNESOTA THERE YOU KNOW THEY ARE VALUED ON THE SENATE ON THE VALUE OF RESPECT IN TERMS OF HOW THEY RELATE TO THE COMMUNITY AND HOW THEY RELATE TO EACH OTHER AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY HAVE THE TRAINING AND EQUIPMENT THAT'S NECESSARY TO DO THEIR JOB IT'S OUR JOB AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO INVEST IN THAT AS WELL. SO WE DO HAVE I THINK A GOOD I THINK IT IS A GOOD IDEA TO GET IT OUT THERE MORE AND TALK WHERE WE'RE GOING AND HOW LONG IT'S GOING TO TAKE. AND AGAIN, YOUR CAPITAL, YOUR ABOUT OUR CAPITAL INVESTMENT IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE FULL TIME FIREFIGHTERS WHO ARE STAFFING STATIONS 24 HOURS, THAT MEANS THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE STATIONS THAT HAVE ACCOMMODATE FOR 24 HOUR OPERATION IN ADDITION TO THE FACT THAT MOST OF OUR FIRE STATIONS WERE BUILT IN THE SIXTIES AND SEVENTIES ARE UNDERSIZED COMPARED TO THE SIZE AND TYPE OF APPARATUS THAT THE FIRE SERVICE USES TODAY. SO THERE'S A LOT OF COMPLICATED ISSUES APPRECIATE COUNCIL SUPPORT FAR AND UNDERSTANDING AND SUPPORT AS WE MOVE FORWARD.  THANK YOU FOR THAT. I JUST WANT TO SEE IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS COMMENTS REGARDING THE PUBLIC SAFETY PORTION OF THINGS AND THEN I'LL COME BACK TO COUNCILMEMBER COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SPECIFICALLY ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY QUESTION.  YEAH. SO IT WILL NOT SIT ON A PACKAGE TO 60 SEE A CUT FROM ADJUSTING THE FIREFIGHTERS STAFFING FROM 8 TO 6. AND THEN I ALSO SEE A REDUCTION IN THE FIRE EQUIPMENT REQUEST.  NO NO THAT'S NOT WHERE I SEE IT SO.  THERE'S ANOTHER REDUCTION WHEN IT COMES TO SOME TYPE OF EQUIPMENT OR IS THAT EQUIPMENT IS IT THE FOURTH ONE DOWN? THANK YOU.  IS THAT BEING ADDED? SO THAT WOULD BE LEFT OUT UNTIL THE SAFER GRANT AND I GUESS MY MY QUESTION IS IN TERMS THE 8 TO 6 AND WHAT'S THE IMPACT THERE BY WAITING OUT TO NEXT YEAR AND THEN WHAT'S THE RISK WITH THE WITH THE FIRE EQUIPMENT BEING BEING HELD OFF? IT'S MR.. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER LUMINOL I'LL TAKE AN ATTEMPT AT AND KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A DEEPER DISCUSSION WITH OUR FIRE CHIEF AND FIRE DEPARTMENT REPRESENTATIVES IF YOU'RE NOT SATISFIED TONIGHT YOU SEE THE CHIEF IS SITTING TOO.  SO A COUPLE THOUGHTS IN TERMS REDUCING THE FIRE EQUIPMENT REQUEST AND THAT WOULD BE AN ADD BACK IF WE GET THE SAFER GRANTS. SO AGAIN WE HAVE APPLIED FOR ANOTHER FEDERAL GRANT TO STAFF UP SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID THREE YEARS AGO. IF WE GET THAT GRANT WE WOULD NEED INCLUDE THESE COSTS FOR ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT AT THE SAME TIME WE WOULD BE ABLE TO REDUCE SOME OF OUR COST FOR NEW FIREFIGHTERS BECAUSE THE GRANT WOULD BE COVERING THOSE SO WE'D GET MORE FIREFIGHTERS LESS LOCAL MONEY TO DO IT AT LEAST FOR THE FIRST COUPLE OF YEARS. AND IN TERMS OF ADJUSTING THE FIREFIGHTER STAFFING REQUEST, OUR ASSUMPTION HAS BEEN GOING FORWARD THE CHIEF RECOGNIZE WE HAVE SOME SUPERVISOR TO LINE FIREFIGHTER RATIOS THAT WE WANT TO MAINTAIN BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO STICK WITH SIX HE'S ADJUSTED THE REQUEST FOR THE OFFICERS TO BE THREE AT AN ASSISTANT CHIEF LEVEL AND THEN THREE FIREFIGHTERS SO STILL SIX FIREFIGHTERS. IT'S JUST THE STRUCTURE OF WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE WOULD BE MODERATED A LITTLE BIT SO SO THE RISK IS WELL I GUESS MY GUESS MY QUESTION IS I KNOW WE'RE RUNNING THIN AND SO I'M JUST A NERVOUS YOU KNOW EVEN EVEN TWO CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE AND I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT IS AND.  THAT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY TO GO FROM FROM THAT LITTLE THAT 6 TO 8 WE COULD FIND SOME WAY TO BUILD THAT BACK IN . SO I JUST I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THAT AND I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT SIX BUT YEAH WELL SO IT'S IT'S TWO THINGS THAT LINE ON WAS WAS $565,000 AND SO THAT'S NOT THE COST OF TWO FIREFIGHTERS. BY THE WAY, PART OF THIS IS ALSO ASSUMING THAT THESE FIRE POSITIONS WOULD BE STARTED ON APRIL 1ST. SO IT'S ACTUALLY THREE QUARTERS OF A YEAR CALCULATION. SO IT'S NOT FULL 12 MONTH CALCULATION. NO THE THE DIFFERENCE ON THE TWO FIREFIGHTERS MAY BE NOMINAL AND I WOULD SAY THAT IN THE CONTEXT OF EVERYTHING WITHIN THE BUDGET REQUEST THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WE'RE WE'RE TRYING TO MAINTAIN THE COMMITMENT THAT WE LAID OUT AND ALSO A ACCOMPLISH I THINK SOME THINGS ARE ON COUNCIL'S EXPECTATIONS WITH MANAGING THE LEVY AS I MENTIONED A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT THAT WE HAVE A COUPLE ABOUT A STAFFING POSITIONS THAT ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET AS IT IS AND SO YOU KNOW WE WE THINK THERE ARE BUDGET OR SOME STAFFING POSITIONS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CONSIDER. THEY ARE CURRENTLY IN THE BUDGET THAT WE'RE PRESENTING TO YOU AND SO AS WE GO THROUGH THESE DISCUSSIONS DURING THE FALL WITH EACH OF THE DEPARTMENT CONVERSATIONS, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO TRY AND FIGURE OUT RECOMMENDATIONS FOR HOW WE CAN ACCOMMODATE SOME OF THOSE REQUESTS.  SO I THINK IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE FIRE,  IT'S IT'S STICKING WITH THE COMMITMENT THAT WE'VE LAID OUT AND TRYING TO PUT IT IN THE CONTEXT OF . THE OTHER DECISIONS WERE BASED ON OWN BUDGET AND I APPRECIATE THAT.  HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, I JUST AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE ATTRITION THAT WE'RE SEEING THERE SO WHAT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE HOUSE SO THE EQUIPMENT PIECE I DON'T THINK I HEARD YOUR ANSWER YET. I WAS MR. MAYOR, COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN, I MENTIONED THE EQUIPMENT REQUEST IS THE IS THE NECESSARY PPE FOR EACH FIREFIGHTER. SO IF WE GET THE SAFER GRANT IT'S GOING TO BE THAT MANY MORE FIREFIGHTERS MEANS THAT MUCH MORE EQUIPMENT BUT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO OFFSET THOSE COSTS BY REDUCING WHAT WE HAVE ASSUMED AS THE CITY COST FOR THE NEW FIREFIGHTERS BECAUSE THE SAFER GRANT WOULD BE PAYING FOR 18 IS WHAT WE HAVE PUT IN FOR CHIEF AND SO THE THE SIX WOULD ESSENTIALLY COME OUT THEY'D BE REPLACED WITH THE SAFER MONEY. SO IN THE END IT WOULD BE A POSITIVE CHANGE.  IT'S JUST RECOGNITION THAT IF WE GET GRANT THAT EQUIPMENT WILL NEED TO BE PUT BACK IN . OKAY SO THAT 149 IS DIRECTLY RELATED TO THAT EQUIPMENT AND NOT SOME OTHER ABREAST SCATTERED? NO, IT'S NOT THE APPARATUS IT IS FOR THE FIREFIGHTERS COUNCIL ADDITIONAL PUBLIC SAFETY QUESTIONS IF NOT GOING TO TURN IT BACK TO COUNCILMEMBER CARTER. WHAT ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS JUST IN GENERAL COUNCILMEMBER CARTER. THANK YOU, MAYOR.  SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE A QUICK COMMENT TO THE COMMUNITY THAT WE HAVE AN AMAZING WEBSITE IN BLOOMINGTON. AND SO IF YOU DO MISS CONVERSATIONS THAT THE COUNCIL'S HAVING OR NEED OTHER INFORMATION, THERE'S A LOT THERE AND SO THANK YOU FOR MAINTAINING THAT CONTINUING TO UPDATE IT. IT'S VERY WELL ORGANIZED AND EASY TO FIND STUFF AND THEN I ONLY HAD ONE QUICK OTHER THING IF YOU GO TO THE SLIDE THAT HAD KIND OF WHERE THE DOLLARS ASSOCIATED WITH EACH DEPARTMENT THERE WAS ONE FOR CITY COUNCIL AND I JUST THAT NUMBER OUT TO ME BECAUSE I THINK IT WAS CLOSE TO 700,000 AND I DON'T WANT THE COMMUNITY THINKING THAT THE COUNCIL IS MAKING $700,000 A YEAR. I THINK IN TOTAL WHAT WE MAKE IS MAYBE 100,000 AND SO I GUESS I WAS CURIOUS FIRST I WANTED THE COMMUNITY TO KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT TAKING HOME THAT MUCH AND SO THEN I WAS CURIOUS JUST WHAT GOES THE THE CITY COUNCIL LINE SIR AND COUNCIL COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER CARTER WE ALSO SOME CITY STAFF ALLOCATED TO THAT THAT AREA WITHIN THE BUDGET AND THEN THERE'S A LOT OF DUES THAT THE CITY PAYS OR LIKE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS THAT WERE IN THAT COMES OUT OF THERE OR YOU KNOW CHARGE AS FAR AS TECHNOLOGY INTERNAL TRACK THERE'S ALSO INTERNAL SERVICE FUND CHARGES THAT ARE WITHIN THE CITY COUNCIL BUDGET SO IT'S LIKE THE ADMINISTRATIVE RELATED COSTS OF JUST MANAGING THE CITY COUNCIL. SO I GUESS I JUST WANTED THE COMMUNITY TO KNOW THAT BECAUSE AGAIN I THINK WE MAKE LIKE $11,000 A YEAR EACH. SO YOU KNOW MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT IS A GOOD POINT. IT HAS BEEN A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME SINCE COUNCIL SALARIES HAVE BEEN ADJUSTED RIGHT AND SO ON. I KNOW THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE PROBABLY HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT JUST AS WE DO WITH OUR EMPLOYEES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE STAYING CONSISTENT WITH MARKET WE WE'LL DISCUSS THAT AT A FUTURE DATE BUT THAT IS NOT A SIGNIFICANT ELEMENT THE BUDGET AND THAT YOU'RE RIGHT THE PAY FOR THE MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL MEMBERS IS BELOW $100,000 IN TOTAL. AND I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THANK YOU.  THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO,  JUST TO EXPAND ON THAT A LITTLE BIT, NONE OF THESE NUMBERS PURELY SALARY NUMBERS ANYWAY. SO I MEAN THAT'S TRUE FOR EVERY NUMBER ON THIS LINE IF I BELIEVE AM I CORRECT IN SAYING THAT APPROXIMATELY 70% OF THE BUDGET IS IS IS IS RELATED TO IN THEIR SERVICE THE SERVICES THAT THEY SUPPORT. IS THAT FAIR ASSESSMENT?  YES, THAT'S CORRECT. SO 30% OF THIS IS EQUIPMENT,  YOU KNOW, FEES THAT WE PAY RIGHT.  CAPITAL UTILITY, ALL THE STUFF THAT RUNS THE CITY, 30% OF THAT IS THAT SO THAT'S TRUE EVERYWHERE AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE LIKE TRAVEL BUDGET THAT WOULD INCLUDE YOU KNOW EDUCATION THAT WOULD INCLUDE ALL KINDS OF THINGS RIGHT? YEAH I DID THE MATH AND IT'S $644,000 IS LESS THAN 5% OF THAT NUMBER ANYWAY SO HOPE THAT THAT'S NOT WHERE WE'RE LOOKING TO CUT IF THAT MAKES SENSE. ALTHOUGH I'M FINE WITH THAT IF WE DO THAT TO HAD A SIGNIFICANT I GUESS WHAT I WOULD WHAT I WOULD REALLY LIKE KIND OF BUT THROWING BACK AND FORTH ON ON SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS THAT WE'RE ASKING I FEEL LIKE WE'RE THE STORY THAT WE'RE TELLING PEOPLE IS THAT THAT WE'VE DECIDED TO MAKE THESE STRATEGIC INVESTMENTS AND WE'RE MAKING THEM IN PUBLIC SAFETY AND WE'RE MAKING THEM IN PARKS AND RECREATION. IT ALMOST FEELS LIKE TO ME THAT WE COULD PLUS OR MINUS SOMETHING ACTUALLY LAY THAT OUT AND LIKE IN ORDER TO GET TO AN EIGHT YOU KNOW, THIS MAYBE THE STORY THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, COUNCILMEMBER CARTER IS YOU KNOW, THE STORY THAT WE WANT TO TELL ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO A FULL TIME FIRE DEPARTMENT INCLUDES, THE FIREFIGHTERS THEMSELVES, THE EQUIPMENT TO SUPPORT THEM, THE NEW FIRE STATIONS ALL OF THIS AND THAT'S A TEN YEAR OR 15 YEAR PLAN AND IT FEELS TO ME LIKE WE COULD LAY THAT IN SUCH A WAY THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO TALK ABOUT IT EVERY SINGLE TIME WE TALK ABOUT IT BECAUSE WE ALREADY KNOW THAT WE'RE DOING IT SIMILARLY IN ORDER ENABLE THE PARKS MASTER PLAN WE HAVE NINE PARKS THAT WE'VE SAID OF THE PARKS PLAN. THESE NINE PARKS OVER THE NEXT 10 TO 15 YEARS ARE GOING TO GET DONE THAT THE THE SERVICE LEVEL ADJUSTMENTS THAT WE'RE MAKING THAT INCLUDES THE ADMIN THE AMENITIES ADJUSTMENTS THAT INCLUDES AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE KNOW WHAT THE NUMBER IS BUT WE CERTAINLY PLUS OR MINUS TEN OR 20% CAN PROBABLY SAY THIS IS WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE OVER THE NEXT TEN OR 15 YEARS AND IF WE DID THAT WE COULD FOCUS ALL OF THE DISCUSSION WE HAVE IN THESE YEARLY BUDGET THINGS ON THE OTHER STUFF SO THAT WE'RE NOT TRYING TO PICK APART THE THINGS THAT WE'VE ALREADY COMMITTED TO.  I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S USEFUL OR HELPFUL BUT I WOULD LIKE I WOULD LIKE IT TO BE AN EASY CONVERSATION FOR ME TO HAVE TO SAY YEP. THERE'S A THERE'S A LET'S SAY LET'S SAY WE END UP AT 9% THIS YEAR I HAVE NO IDEA RIGHT 2.5% OF THAT IS THESE THREE THINGS WHICH WE'VE TOLD YOU THREE YEARS AGO WE TOLD YOU TWO YEARS AGO WE TOLD YOU LAST YEAR WE'RE TELLING YOU THIS YEAR WE'RE GOING TO TELL YOU FOR TEN MORE YEARS IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE AROUND THAT TWO AND A HALF PERCENT BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT WE ALL SAID WE WERE GOING TO DO AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO BE PLAYING WITH THE OTHER SIX AND A HALF PERCENT THAT WE'RE IS IS MORE UP FOR GRABS BECAUSE IT'S NOT PART OF OUR STRATEGIC PRIORITIES. I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN GET THERE BUT I THINK THAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL TO EVERYBODY AND IT WOULD AT LEAST GIVE EVERYBODY THE IMPRESSION THAT WE KIND OF KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.  WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING IT, WE'RE TRANSPARENT ABOUT IT AND WE HAVE AN END POINT AFTER WHICH WE'LL SAY THESE IN STRATEGIC INVESTMENTS ARE COMPLETE. I DON'T KNOW. I, I FEEL LIKE WE COULD GET THERE AND IF WE DID GET THERE THEN WE COULD BE TALKING ABOUT E THE DELTA AND THAT WOULD HELP US FOCUS IN ON THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE MORE CHALLENGING OR DIFFICULT DECISIONS ABOUT ON THE YEAR ON A YEARLY BASIS AND NOT A BAD SUGGESTION COUNCILMEMBER I THINK IT'S IT'S PROBABLY WANT TO EXPLORE A LITTLE BIT I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT AND JUST IN TERMS OF THE STORY OF A BUDGET YEAH. DIFFERENT WAYS TO DO IT RIGHT BECAUSE SOME OF THIS STUFF FLUCTUATES YEAR TO YEAR AND SOME OF IT WE'RE BASICALLY TELLING THE COMMUNITY. IT'S NOT BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE AGREED WE'RE GOING TO DO UNLESS WE DECIDE TO CHANGE THAT. OBVIOUSLY.  OKAY, THANKS. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN.  THANK YOU, MAYOR.  I'M NOT DONE WITH THE PUBLIC SAFETY PART.  COME BACK TO THAT IN A SECOND BUT I HOPE GO WITH MY OTHER QUESTIONS I'VE GOT FIRST.  SO IF WE WERE TO START OFF OR WE WERE TO PASS YOU KNOW WHAT'S PROPOSED HERE TONIGHT 11% OR SO BUT ALWAYS LOOK LIKE IN WELL WE START OFF IN 2026 FOR THAT THAT BUDGET CYCLE NEXT YEAR REVENUE ESTIMATES AROUND THAT WE HAVE MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN WE HAVE A VERY ROUGH WORKING ESTIMATE AS WE DO IT THIS TIME IT GETS BETTER AS WE GET LATER INTO THE YEAR RIGHT NOW THAT ESTIMATE FOR 2026 WOULD BE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 16% THAT 11 AND A HALF PERCENT THAT'S AWESOME.  LOOK OVER AT ME ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S A BIG NUMBER. RIGHT. AND I'M NOT ANTICIPATE THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE A NUMBER WHERE WE LAND OUT BUT THAT'S JUST BASED ON ALL OF THE INPUTS. WE HAVE NOT GONE IN TO 2026 PROJECTIONS TO START MANIPULATING THEM OR MAKING SUGGESTIONS HOW WE MANAGE THOSE OR WE'RE FOCUSED ON 2025 RIGHT NOW THERE WAS A JUST SORT OF BUILT IN THERE AND THAT'S THAT'S THE NUMBER THAT WE START WITH AND WE STARTED THIS YR WITH AROUND 15%. YOU REMEMBER COREY WHAT WE WERE FORECASTING WELL WHEN EVERYTHING CAME TOGETHER IT WAS JUST UNDER 16% SO 15.94% LAST YEAR WHEN WE ADOPTED 7.97 WHAT WERE 424 ARE WHAT WE'RE FORECASTING FOR 25 I DON'T REMEMBER THAT I HAVE THAT BUT WE CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT YEAH WE CAN PROVIDE IT TO COUNCIL AND I AND MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN I UNDERSTAND THE POINT THAT COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN IS MAKING WANTING TO GET AN IDEA OF WHAT THE YOU KNOW, THE DOWNSTREAM EFFECT IS OF THE DECISIONS YOU'RE MAKING TODAY.  AND YOU KNOW, ONE THING THAT I WILL POINT OUT IS THERE'S A THERE'S AN INVERSE HERE IS IF YOU GO WITH A LOWER LEVY THIS YEAR, IT'S TO INCREASE THE STARTING POINT FOR THE FOLLOWING YEAR JUST IN TERMS OF THE YOU KNOW, THE AMOUNT OF ADDITIONAL REVENUE THAN THAT. YOU TO RAISE BASED ON THOSE ASSUMPTIONS. AND I, I WON'T TAKE THE WORDS OUT OF COUNCILMEMBER LOEHMANN'S PERFECT MOUTH BUT I'VE HEARD HIM SAY OVER SEVERAL YEARS THAT YOU KNOW, YOU WANT TO BE THINKING ABOUT ,YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING TO PREPARE FOR THOSE FOR THOSE COMING BUDGETS AS WELL. I APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'M TRYING TO KEEP DOWN AT THE TABLE EVER EVERY AND SAYING THE SAME THING MAYBE ONE OF THESE YEARS I'LL I'LL GET IT AND IT WILL BE UP TO 20% BUT WE WILL GET IT.  PROFESSIONAL SERVICES I SEE THAT THAT IS WHAT'S IT INVOLVED WITH THAT WE'RE CUTTING OUT OF THAT.  MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN I DON'T THE DETAILS OF THAT RIGHT HERE I THE MAJORITY OF THAT I BELIEVE IS IN COMMUNITY.  I CAN GET YOU THE DETAILS OF WHAT'S IN THERE.  BUT IF MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MAYORS COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN I KNOW THERE ARE THERE'S A COUPLE OF CONTRACTS THAT WE'RE TAKING A LOOK AT FOR THE SERVICES TO SEE IF THOSE FULL SERVICES ARE NECESSARY IN 2025. ALSO LOOKING AT OTHER BUDGETS OR FUNDS THAT COULD POTENTIALLY SUPPORT THOSE CONTRACTS RATHER HAVE THEM BE PART OF THE GENERAL LEVY RESPONSIBILITY.  AND THEN FINALLY BEFORE I GO TO MY MY MY OTHER MY OTHER COMMENT IS AROUND IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH OUR STRATEGIC PRIORITIES BUDGET, IS THERE ANY ROOM IN THERE WHERE WE COULD TAKE SOME OF THESE ITEMS AND TUCK THEM INTO THERE SO WE CAN GET SOME OF THIS THE STUFF DONE? YOU KNOW, MR. MAYOR, COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER WARMAN IF YOU GO BACK TO PAGE 274, WE HAVE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES FUND IDENTIFIED AS VERY EARLY FOR COUNCIL COMING UP ON SEPTEMBER 30TH. SO WHEN START DIVING DEEPER INTO THE SPECIFICS OF THE BUDGET, THAT'S ONE OF THE PLACES THAT WE WANT TO START BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY AS YOU SAW IN WHAT COREY LAID OUT SOME OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR HOW WE LOWER THE THE LEVY INVOLVE POTENTIALLY MOVING ITEMS TO THE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES FUND AND AGAIN WHEN WE'RE LOOKING THOSE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ARE PROJECTS THAT ARE EITHER A ONE TIME BASIS OR ARE NEW INITIATIVES THAT IT'S BEEN PASSED PRACTICE THAT WE'VE FUNDED THOSE IN THE FIRST YEAR OR SECOND YEAR WITH STRATEGIC PRIORITIES FUND AND THEN MOVE THEM INTO THE REGULAR BUDGET AT A FUTURE POINT IN TIME. SO THAT'S WHAT WILL LAY OUT FOR THE COUNCIL ON THE 30TH RIGHT NOW I THINK OUR END OF YEAR FORECAST FOR THE STRATEGIC FUND IS TO BE ABOUT $5.4 MILLION AND LOOKING FORWARD TO END OF 2025 BASED ON A LOT OF ASSUMPTIONS. RIGHT. AND IT WOULD PROBABLY BE DOWN TO ABOUT $3.7 MILLION. SO WE'RE ALREADY LEANING PRETTY HEAVILY ON THE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES FUND. THAT'S WHY WE WANT HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE COUNCIL EARLY IN THE PROCESS. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THEY'RE JUST TO WRAP THIS UP HERE. YOU KNOW, I'LL MAKE MY MY FINAL PLEA FOR WHICH LOOKS LIKE ALMOST THREE QUARTERS OF $1,000,000 FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IN THE SENSE THAT, YOU KNOW AND MAYBE WE DON'T KNOW WE DON'T DO IT TONIGHT BUT I JUST THINK WE REALLY OUGHT TO HAVE A LOOK THAT AS WE KIND OF LOOK FORWARD AND I KNOW IT'S IT'S TWO TWO BODIES HERE TWO BODIES THERE.  BUT WHEN WE LOOK AT YOU KNOW, WHO WE HAVE OVER THERE ON THE VOLUNTEER OR THAT PARDON ME THE PAID ON CALL STAFF THAT WE'VE GOT THERE I JUST YOU KNOW I, I THINK OF THE FIRES THAT HAVE HAPPENED AND THAT KIND OF THING AND I JUST WANT TO BE SURE THAT WE ARE, YOU KNOW, BEING CAUTIOUS WITH THAT AND PUTTING AS MUCH AS WE POSSIBLY CAN IN THERE AND IF THERE'S WAY TO TO GET THAT DONE, I WOULDN'T WANT THAT TO BE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, GETTING TO A FIRE AND NOT GETTING AND SO I JUST THINK IT MAKES SOME SENSE I THINK WE SHOULD REALLY CONSIDER YOU KNOW, TO TRY TO FUND THAT. I JUST I REALLY THINK OUGHT TO DO THAT UNDERSTANDING WE'RE WE BROUGHT THIS DOWN QUITE A BIT. THAT'S PART OF IT. I KNOW WE'RE ALREADY HAVE PUT 80 AND 60 AND NOW ANOTHER 65% INTO IT OVER THESE YEARS. BUT WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF YEARS OF OF NEGLECT WHEN IT COMES TO THAT AND I JUST I JUST KNOW AS WE GET TOGETHER AND TALK EACH MONTH THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT JUST TOP OF MIND EACH MONTH THAT I JUST WANT TO BE SURE THAT YOU KNOW I TOOK THIS OPPORTUNITY JUST MAKE ONE LAST ARGUMENT FOR TRYING TO KEEP THAT KEEP THAT IN THERE FOR GOOD. DULY NOTED COUNCILMEMBER AND AS YOU'LL SEE WITH THE SCHEDULE THERE IN FRONT OF YOU, YOU'LL HAVE MORE OF AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT IT ON SEPTEMBER 30TH WHEN FIRE IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALK ABOUT IN DEPTH.  SO THANK YOU COUNSEL ADDITIONAL COMMENTS.  COUNCILMEMBER NELSON THANK YOU, MAYOR. IF I MIGHT I'D JUST LIKE TO ASK LOWMAN TO CLARIFY HIS COMMENTS REGARDING FIRE. ARE YOU ASKING THAT WE INCREASE THE PRELIMINARY LEVY SO THAT MONEY MIGHT BE AVAILABLE KNOWING IF WE ULTIMATELY DECIDE TO REDUCE IT LATER OR IS THAT IS THAT YOUR REQUEST? YEAH, I'D LIKE TO US WELL I'D LIKE TO TEST HAVE US TAKE THAT OFF OF THAT THAT LIST SO I GUESS THAT WOULD BE LET'S INCREASE LEVY YEAH LET'S ALSO CHRISTOPHER éLIMINER IT'S A PRELIMINARY RIGHT SO WE CAN AT IT AND CONSIDER IT YOU I MEAN WE TALK ABOUT KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD AND HERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING THAT WE CAN G AHEAD OF NOW TODAY AND AND AT LEAST CONSIDER IT BETWEEN NOW AND THEN. I KNOW IT'S IT'S OUT HERE BUT IF WE  WE BRING IT DOWN NOW THERE'S NO WAY UNLESS WE'RE GOING TO CUT ELSE OUT. YOU GOT TO SUPPLANT SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY THERE. SO THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION ON COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS SO SPECIFIC TO THIS QUESTION. YES, PLEASE.  I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE CUT SOMETHING ELSE INSTEAD.  I DO AGREE THAT WE SHOULD WE SHOULD DO ANOTHER YEAR IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS IN THE CITY IS SUPPOSED TO TAKE CARE OF HOWEVER INCREASING TAX LEVY I DON'T THINK IT MAKES ANY SENSE AT THIS POINT IT'S TOO MANY PEOPLE ARE ALREADY STRUGGLING AND AS INSIGNIFICANT AS IT MAY SOUND OF JUST, YOU KNOW, SMALL POINTS HERE AND THERE IS STILL SUBSTANTIAL I WOULD SUGGEST THAT IF WE DO THAT WE CUT SOMEWHERE ELSE INSTEAD OF JUST INCREASING THE.  COUNCILMEMBER NELSON YEAH THANKS MAYOR UNLESS I MAY ALSO COMMENT ON THAT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD WHAT THE REQUEST WAS. I HAVE A COUPLE OF OTHER COMMENTS PLEASE. I DIDN'T NOTICE ANYWHERE ON HERE THAT WE WERE GOING TO OUR CONVERSATION WITH REGARDS TO WORKING CAPITAL.  I KNOW WE HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE TIMELINE OF THAT IF WE'D BE ABLE TO DO THAT, THAT MAY BE AN AREA THAT WE CAN SAVE SOME MONEY TO HELP.  SO AGAIN, COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS IS GOING HELP COUNCILMEMBER LOEHMANN'S CONCERN HERE I ALSO DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING WHERE WE WERE GOING TO TAKE A LOOK AT POTENTIAL OTHER BUDGET REDUCTIONS OR OTHER REVENUE SOURCES.  AND I WOULD JUST LIKE I SAID BEFORE, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A VERY DELIBERATE CONVERSATION ABOUT THOSE IDEAS AND IF THERE'S A WAY TO FIT THAT INTO THIS CALENDAR DISCUSSION, I WOULD VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THAT. MR. RUBY THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER NELSON AGAIN, FOR THOSE WHO ARE TUNING IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO WHEN WE DISCUSSED THE BUDGET PROCESS THIS YEAR ONE OF THE THINGS THAT COUNCIL WAS INTERESTED IN PURSUING WAS REVIEW OF FUND BALANCE STRATEGY AND POLICY ISSUES RELATED TO OUR VARIOUS FUND BALANCES WORKING WITH GOVERNMENT FINANCE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION GEOFFROY WHO WOULD ASSIST IN THAT PROCESS? COREY DO YOU HAVE AN UPDATE IN TERMS OF WHEN THEY THEY MIGHT HAVE A REVIEW DONE THAT WE COULD FACTOR INTO THE BUDGET YES FOR MOST LIKELY WOULDN'T GET STARTED WITH THEM NEXT I THINK THE FASTEST THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO TURN THAT AROUND WITH THE CITY ABOUT ABOUT THREE MONTHS FOUR MONTHS BUT BUT WE ARE DEFINITELY GOING TO BE WORKING WITH THEM TO HAVE THEM TAKE A LOOK AT OUR RESERVES AND THEN SHARING INFORMATION WITH COUNCIL. BUT IT MIGHT NOT LINE UP ENTIRELY WITH THIS WITH THIS BUDGET CYCLE.  MM HMM.  AND COUNCILMEMBER NELSON'S OTHER DISCUSSION POINTS AND DESIRE DISCUSSION POINTS ABOUT ,YOU KNOW, WHAT THE SPECIFICS AND WHAT SPECIFIC CUTS THERE MIGHT BE ORDDITIONAL REDUCTIONS IN DIFFERENT AREAS. I MEAN IS THAT GOING TO BE PART OF THE CONVERSATION AS HEARD, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER NELSON WE WILL I WANT JUST AGAIN REMIND PEOPLE OF SORT OF THE EXPECTATIONS HERE IN TERMS OF WHAT LEVEL OF REDUCTIONS WE'D BE ABLE TO GET. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE SURE A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO IS THAT IF YOU ONLY DO CURRENT LEVEL OF STAFFING AND SERVICE LEVEL THAT WE'RE PROVIDING AND ALLOW FOR A 3% INFLATIONARY INCREASE IN OTHER AREAS, THAT'S AN EIGHT AND A HALF PERCENT INCREASE. AND SO I THINK THE FLOOR UNLESS YOU'RE WILLING TO SPECIFICALLY CONSIDER REDUCTION OF SERVICES OR CUTTING OF SERVICES IS EIGHT AND A HALF PERCENT ON THE BOTTOM END SO THE COUNCIL ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, COMMENTS WELL COUNCIL THE QUESTION IN FRONT OF US IS THE IS THE PRELIMINARY 2025 TAX LEVY AS AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT AND WE'VE GOT IT THERE IN FRONT OF US WE DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF US. IT SAYS DISCUSSION IN FRONT OF US SORRY.  THERE IT IS THE MOTION THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US I WOULD ESTABLISH THE PRELIMINARY 2025 TAX LEVY INCREASE OF 11 AND A HALF PERCENT. NOW WE HEARD A COUPLE OF THINGS FROM COUNCILMEMBER LOEHMANN AND COUNCILMEMBER RELAYS ABOUT THE DESIRE TO INCREASE THAT PERHAPS OR THE TO TO SHIFT THINGS AROUND TO STAY AT THE 11 AND A HALF PERCENT BUT TO REALLOCATE IN CERTAIN WAYS.  I WOULD LOOK FOR IDEAS OR SUGGESTIONS AS TO MAYBE HOW THAT COULD TAKE PLACE. NOW WE HAVE THE REALLOCATE AND IS KIND OF DIFFICULT IN TERMS OF YOU KNOW, THE SPECIFICS THAT WE HAVE HERE CERTAINLY POSSIBLE. I WONDER IF THE BEST PATH FORWARD WOULD BE I MEAN IF WE DESIRE THIS COUNCILMEMBER ALONE AND TO TO PUT THAT NUMBER JUST HIGHER AND JUST HAVE THE DISCUSSION BE HIGHER, YOU KNOW, AND IF IF WE WERE TO REDUCE IT IN THE FUTURE BUT TO NOT HANDCUFF OURSELVES BUT IN YOUR FAVOR IF YOU DESIRE TO SPEND MORE ON FIRE SPECIFICALLY ON THE FIRE PERHAPS DISCUSSION SHOULD BE DO WE JUST WANT TO GO TO THE HIGHER RIGHT NOW IN THIS 11 AND A HALF FOR THE PRELIMINARY KNOWING FULL WELL AGAIN THAT THAT NUMBER CAN COME DOWN? WELL, MARY, THAT'S SORT OF WHAT I'M SUGGESTING BECAUSE I THINK THAT STAFF HAS WORKED HARD TO WORK ALL THESE OTHER ELEMENTS DOWN TO THEY'RE AT TODAY. I UNDERSTAND THE WE CERTAINLY CAN STILL REALLOCATE BUT THIS IS A PRELIMINARY BUDGET AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT NOT KICKING THINGS DOWN THE ROAD, YOU KNOW HERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO HAVE A TIGHTER JUST TO MAKE SURE THIS IS INDEED WHAT WE WANT TO DO AND I CAN UNDERSTAND IF YOU KNOW YOU GO FROM 8 TO 6 BUT YOU KNOW I WANT TO UNDERSTAND I'D LIKE TO A DEEPER CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT. AND SO YOU KNOW IF MY COLLEAGUES ARE WILLING TO COME ALONG WITH ME AND RAISE THIS I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT PERCENTAGE LIKE BY DOING THAT BUT I'LL TALK TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. I THINK IT'S WORTHWHILE WE TALK ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT AND THE POLICE FORCES ARE IN OUR CITY AND HERE'S HERE'S A CHANCE US TO HAVE JUST ONE LAST LOOK AT THIS TO MAKE SURE IT'S ONE TWO. COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I GUESS I SEE THAT A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY BUT I TOTALLY, TOTALLY GET THE THE GOAL.  I DON'T THINK THAT THE I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S A GUARANTEE. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG THAT THAT ANY OF THOSE NUMBERS THAT REDUCE THE THE LEVY BY 3.5 MILLION ARE THE NUMBERS WE HAVE TO USE EITHER TO REDUCE THE THING LIKE IN OTHER WORDS, WOULD YOU MIND MOVING IT TO THAT SCREEN JUST A SECOND IF YOU DON'T MIND. SORRY GUYS. I APOLOGIZE.  IT CALLED PERFECT. YEAH, THANKS.  YEAH, THE REDUCTIONS THAT MAKE THERE.  YEAH. SO THIS IS APPROACHES LOWER THE LEVY RATE AND I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU WANTED TO DO WAS TO ADJUST THE STAFFING FROM 8 TO 6 OR WHATEVER. I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND BUT LIKE I LOOK AT THIS THREE AND A HALF MILLION AND I SAY THEY'VE GONE THROUGH IT AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL.  THERE'S SOME PLACES THERE'S SOME AREAS IN THE BUDGET THAT WE COULD CHOOSE TO CUT. I DON'T FEEL LIKE BY PASSING A 7.5% LEVY TONIGHT OR SOME NUMBER HIGHER OR LOWER OR MAKING THEM CHOOSE THINGS EXPLICITLY AND MAYBE I DON'T HAVE THAT CORRECT. MR. MAYOR BUT THERE WE CAN STILL HAVE THE ARGUMENT ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT THEM TO KEEP THE $565,000 IN THERE FOR THE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND FIND THAT $565,000 ELSEWHERE THROUGH CUTS OR OTHER EXPENDITURE, YOU KNOW, DELETIONS OR REDUCTIONS WITHOUT CHANGING WHETHER OR NOT IT IT IT'S A 3.5 $3.5 MILLION LEVY REDUCTION, CORRECT.  DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING? I GUESS WHAT I'M I SEE THEM AS TWO SEPARATE THINGS. IN OTHER WORDS, I DON'T WANT TO RAISE 11.5% NUMBER BUT I'M STILL FINE WITH FINDING THE $565,000 ELSEWHERE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FIREFIGHTERS COME UP WITH EIGHT IF THAT'S WHAT THE GOAL IS. GOT IT. I SUBMITTED YES.  THAT'S A GOOD SUMMARY. I APPRECIATE THE SUMMARY. SORRY.  MAKES SENSE. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY, SO SO LIKE I DON'T I'M NOT NECESSARILY JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR I'M NOT NECESSARILY FOR RAISING THE LEVY NUMBER BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH IN TERMS OF MAKING SURE THAT STAYS IN THE BUDGET IF WE NEED TO AND THAT MEANS WE HAVE TO FIND IT SOMEWHERE ELSE WHICH IS I THINK COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS WAS ALSO SAYING SO I THINK THAT'S RIGHT. SO I'M GOING TO VOTE TO KEEP THAT AND I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT RAISING IT ABOVE 11.5%. BUT I ALSO TOTALLY GET IT AND I'M VERY HAPPY TO WORK ON THAT IF THAT'S THE PRIORITY WE WANT TO YOU KNOW CONSIDER GOOD APPRECIATE THAT COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS.  ONE LAST QUESTION. THE 11.5% INCREASE ALLOWS FOR MAINTAINING THESE 3.5 MILLION OR IT'S IT ALSO REFLECTS THE REDUCTION 3.5 MILLION. YES. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS RIVAS IT REFLECTS THIS $3.5 MILLION REDUCTION. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS SO JUST AS QUICK OVERVIEW IF ANYBODY IS WATCHING JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF NUMBERS ON THE SCREEN WHEN WHEN WE ALL OF THE BUDGET REQUESTS COME IN AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PROCESS THAT THE TOTAL REQUEST WOULD HAVE YIELDED ABOUT A 15.9% INCREASE IN THE LEVY. AND SO TO GET TO THE 11.5 THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING TONIGHT. WE'VE ALREADY MADE REDUCTIONS OF ABOUT THREE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS TO GET THERE.  AND TO BE CLEAR, THE REDUCTIONS IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET REQUEST FROM FROM THE THE AND THE DEPARTMENTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.  ALL RIGHT.  SO WHAT I'M HEARING I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT THIS THINK I AGREE WITH COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO ON A COUPLE OF POINTS I THINK IF WE WANTED TO STAY AT THE 11 AND A HALF PERCENT IT MAKES SENSE AND THEN TWO IF WE WANT TO CONTINUE THE DISCUSSION, MAYBE CONTINUE TO SHUFFLE AROUND A BIT TO MAYBE REALLOCATE AND PUT MORE PRIORITY TO FIRE.  IT MIGHT MAKE MORE SENSE AND I'M SAYING THAT FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS. FIRST OF ALL, I THINK 11 AND A HALF PERCENT AS A AS A STARTING NUMBER IS A GOOD STARTING NUMBER. SECONDLY, IF WE DID CHANGE IT TALK ABOUT KICKING THE CAN, THIS WOULD BE A NEXT WEEK CONVERSATION BECAUSE WE OFFICIALLY WOULD HAVE TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES AND I WOULDN'T ASK I ASK US OR WANT US TO TO MAKE A YOU KNOW, THROW A DART ,COME UP WITH A NEW NUMBER AT ONCE. THEY HAVE TO COME BACK AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT NUMBER WOULD BE.  AND I THINK IT'S PART OF THE OVERALL TIRED DISCUSSION THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING THAT WE WANT TO HAVE THESE SPECIFIC DISCUSSIONS THESE PRIORITIZATION WITHIN OUR BUDGET. I MEAN IF WHATEVER NUMBER AT TO BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT THIS PROPOSAL IS INCREASED OR THIS PROPOSED PROJECT VERSUS THESE PROPOSED PROJECTS KNOW WHAT IS A HIGHER PRIORITY FOR THE FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND WHAT DO WE WANT DO?  SO I THINK THE 11 AND A HALF PERCENT WOULD BE A STARTING POINT WHERE WE COULD DO THAT AND I THINK COULD HAVE A CONVERSATION BASED OFF OF THAT. COUNCILMEMBER LEMON SO I THINK THAT'S FAIR. IT LIKE THAT'S WHERE WE'RE HEADED MANY IS ONE WHERE WE'RE HEAD SHAKING AND.  WE'RE THERE AND I'M NOT GOING TO BELABOR THAT BUT THE POINT THAT I'M TRYING TO MAKE HERE IS A BROADER ONE.  CERTAINLY I UNDERSTAND WE CAN REALLOCATE WITHIN THAT BUT I'M ALSO THE POINT IN TERMS OF WHAT OUR 2026 YOU KNOW, IT LOOKS LIKE AS WELL AND SO YOU KNOW, 11 AND A HALF YOU KNOW, I WANT TO JUST SURE THAT WHEN WE GET TO THE FINAL THAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT OUR FUTURE YEARS.  WE'RE NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, RATCHETING THIS DOWN. IT'S GOING TO GET HARDER WHEN WE GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE HAVE TO START, YOU KNOW I MEAN AND YOU KNOW, SOMEONE ALSO,  YOU KNOW, SAID HEY, WE DON'T WHAT'S THAT WHAT'S THE BOTTOM LEVEL OF THIS THING? IT'S YOU KNOW, POINT FIVE, YOU KNOW. WOW. I MEAN THAT IS YOU KNOW QUITE A FOR YOU THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH AND SO I JUST WANT TO BE SURE, YOU KNOW, I CANNOT YOU KNOW WITH THAT WITH A STRAIGHT FACE YOU KNOW NEXT YEAR, YOU KNOW, IF I DIDN'T MAKE THIS THIS CASE NOW AND I JUST ONE EXAMPLE OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT STUFF THAT I'M VERY YOU KNOW YOU KNOW THERE'S CERTAINLY OTHER ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE ON THE LIST THAT, YOU KNOW, DIDN'T IT THIS TIME THAT I WOULD BE ADVOCATING FOR AS WELL THERE'S STUFF SUSTAINABILITY THERE'S STUFF IN THE YOU KNOW, EQUITY INCLUSION AREA THAT I TO LET YOU KNOW SO YOU KNOW SO THAT'S REALLY THE ARGUMENT THAT I'M TRYING TO HERE IS THAT WE JUST NEED TO BE CAREFUL SO THAT FLORIDA'S NOT TAKE US OVER 10% BECAUSE THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A SERIOUS PROBLEM. SO MY POINT MADE AND UNDERSTOOD COUNCILMEMBER MADE IT A COUPLE OF TIMES. I THINK FOLKS FOLKS UNDERSTAND IT. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.  SO COUNCIL UNLESS THERE'S FURTHER DISCUSSION AND AS COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SAID I'VE SEEN ENOUGH NODDING HEADS AND I THINK 11.5% FOR A PRELIMINARY LEVY SEEMS TO BE STARTING POINT OR THE PLACE THAT WE WANT TO BE UNLESS I SEE HEADS YOUR EYEBROWS GOING UP I WOULD COUNCIL LOOK FOR A MOTION TO ADOPT THIS THIS RESOLUTION THE PRELIMINARY 2025 TAX LEVY. COUNCILMEMBER MERRILL GOOD MAKE THAT MOTION. I'LL MOVE TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION THE PRELIMINARY 2025 TAX LEVY MOTION MAY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION ESTABLISHING THE PRELIMINARY 2025 TAX LEVY INCREASE OF 11.5%.  ANY FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS?  COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO. JUST A COMMENT I WANT TO MAKE UP WHAT WE'RE HERE. I MEAN I DON'T I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE KNOW THAT LIKE THIS I MEAN I DON'T IF YOU ASKED ME I WAS HAPPY TO MAKE THIS MOTION. I WASN'T GOING TO BE HAPPY TO MAKE THIS MOTION SAID ANOTHER WAY WE KNOW I MEAN WE'RE ALL WE ALL ARE ALL TAXPAYERS.  WELL, WE ALL OWN OUR HOMES HERE IN BLOOMINGTON ON COUNCIL AND ALSO GOING TO BE DEALING WITH THIS UPDATE. THE QUESTION THAT WE HAVE TO ASK OURSELVES AND OTHERS IS ARE WE HAPPY WITH THE INVESTMENTS THAT WE'RE MAKING? ARE WE PUTTING THOSE INVESTMENTS IN THE RIGHT PLACES ACCORDING TO THE BUDGET THE DREAMS AND AND WISHES OUR STRATEGIC PRIORITIES AS EVIDENCED BY OUR COMMUNITY AND I'M STILL HOPING THAT THIS NUMBER IS LOWER BY THE TIME WE COME TO DECEMBER. YEAH, NO, SAID COUNCILMEMBER.  ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? WE HAVE A MOTION THE SECOND NO FURTHER DISCUSSION COUNCIL ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO AND A RELATED MOTION IS THE RESOLUTION ADOPTING THE PRELIMINARY 2025 GENERAL FUND BUDGET COUNCILMEMBER WELL AGAIN HERE.  ALL RIGHT. 4.30 NO.  IT'S RIGHT HERE. I'LL MOVE TO TO ADOPT ESTABLISHING A PRELIMINARY 2025 GENERAL FUND BUDGET IN MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION A PRELIMINARY 2025 GENERAL FUND BUDGET UTILIZING THE 11.5 LEVY INCREASE FOR THE COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I HAVE OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS MS. CARLSON APPRECIATE IT AS ALWAYS AND LOOK FORWARD TO THE CONTINUED DISCUSSIONS AND NOW THE NOW THE HARD WORK STARTS RIGHT NOW. NOW WE REALLY GET TO WORK ON SEPTEMBER 30TH AS WE START DOING ALL OF THESE REVIEWS OF ALL THE DIFFERENT BUDGETS. SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT CONVERSATION. SO THANKS VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.  WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON NOW COUNCIL TO A OF PUBLIC HEARINGS AND THESE ARE RELATED TO ASSESSMENTS AND OUR CFO LAURIE CONNOLLY IS GOING TO LEAD US THROUGH ALL OF THIS. BUT THESE ARE A VARIETY OF ASSESSMENTS BASED A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT THINGS PUBLIC NUISANCE ABATEMENT, TREE REMOVALS ASSESSMENTS AND SO ON. SO I THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET THE IF I RECALL THIS WE'RE GOING TO GET THE OVERALL PRESENTATION AND THEN WE'LL BREAK DOWN AND HAVE INDIVIDUAL PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR EACH OF THE DIFFERENT PIECES HERE AND GO FROM THERE IF I'M REMEMBERING THIS CORRECTLY MAYOR AND COUNCIL YOU ARE CORRECT THIS EVENING THE PRESENTATION IS FOR AGENDA ITEMS 4.3 THROUGH 4.7 AND THEN I HAVE MOTION FOR EACH OF THE FIVE ITEMS AFTER THAT. SO ONWARDS.  SO AGAIN WE'LL GO THROUGH THE DIFFERENT DEFINITION OF ASSESSMENT TYPES, DIFFERENT TIMELINES, CHARTING SOME CHANGES OVER TIME ON THE ASSESSMENTS AND THEN THE GENERAL PUBLIC HEARING AND INFORMATION SO ON THE HEARINGS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT YOU WILL HAVE PUBLIC NUISANCE ABATEMENT WHICH ARE PROPERTY CONDITIONS DECLARED TO BE A NUISANCE AFFECTING THE PUBLIC PEACE, WELFARE AND SAFETY AND WE HAVE TREE REMOVAL OF DEAD AND DECEASED TREES AND HAZARD TREES IN SO JUST SOMEBODY MIGHT HAVE A DEAD TREE IN THEIR YARD IF IT'S NOT A HAZARD THE CITY NOT TAKING THAT DOWN FOR THEM IT HAS TO BE A HAZARDOUS TREE OR DISEASE TREE WEEDS AND BRUSH REMOVAL DELINQUENT UTILITIES WATERS SEWER STORM DRAIN, GARBAGE RECYCLING ALL OF THOSE IT'S ALL IN ONE BILL SO THEY CAN BE ALL THERE TOGETHER. AND THEN WE HAVE CIVIL FINES AND THEN WE MAIL NOTIFICATIONS OUT ON JULY 1ST THE PUBLIC LEGAL NOTICE ADVERTISEMENT WAS ON AUGUST 15TH ON AUGUST EIGHT THERE WAS AN ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING ON NEUTRAL THIRD PARTY WAS HERE FOR THE ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING WE HAD FOR PROPERTY OWNERS THAT CAME IN AND DISCUSSED WITH THE ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING ON  THAT THREE WERE IN THE CIVIL FINE AREA AND ONE WAS IN THE UTILITY BILLING AREA THIS WE HAVE THE ASSESSMENT HEARING AND THEN STAFF WILL WORK WITH THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE AND WE WILL GET THESE FILED AT THE COUNTY BY DECEMBER 4TH.  SO OVER TIME AGAIN I WANT TO CALL ON FAR RIGHT SIDE IS THE ASSESSMENT TOTALS FOR THE DELINQUENT UTILITIES BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF THAT BAR GRAPH THAT WOULD BE SEPARATED FROM THE REST OF THEM BECAUSE OTHERWISE THEY'RE ON THE REALLY SMALL SIDE FOR THE CIVIL FINES, THE TREES, WEEDS AND PUBLIC NUISANCE CIVIL FINES TEND TO BE THE LARGEST ITEM THEIR TREES YOU'LL SEE A SMALL GAP AND WE'LL COVER THAT WHEN WE GO THROUGH THE TREE PIECE SO THE NUMBER OF PROPERTIES AGAIN CIVIL FINES ARE VERY SIMILAR TO 2020 IN REGARDS TO CIVIL FINES,  WEEDS AND BRUSH A LITTLE ON THE HIGHER SIDE FOR 2024 TREE REMOVAL WE'RE DOWN NINE OUTSTANDING OUR PRACTICE ON THE TREES RESIDENTS AS THE TREES COME DOWN CAN CONTINUE TO PAYMENTS TO FINANCE UNTIL ITS ASSESSMENT TIME AND THEN WE MOVE IT THROUGH THE ASSESSMENT PROCESS AND WHAT'S OUTSTANDING CAN DEPENDING ON THE DOLLAR AMOUNT WE ACTUALLY HAD ONE PROPERTY THAT DUE TO THE DOLLAR AMOUNT WHAT'S GOING BE A TEN YEAR ASSESSMENT COURSE FOR YOU TONIGHT IS A THREE AND A FIVE YEAR THAT PROPERTY OWNER WAS ABLE TO PAY THAT TOTALLY OFF IT CAME BEFORE YOU TONIGHT AND ON PUBLIC NUISANCE ABATEMENTS THERE'S A LITTLE TICK UP IN THOSE TWO THE UTILITY NUMBER TENDS TO BE GENERALLY ABOUT THE SAME THERE. I MEAN A LITTLE TICK BUT NOT TOO MUCH ON PUBLIC NUISANCE ABATEMENTS YOU'LL SEE JUST THE NUMBER OF PROPERTIES HERE AND THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS WELL KEEP MOVING THROUGH THESE SLIDES TREE REMOVAL AS YOU SEE YOU KNOW THAT CAME DOWN A LITTLE THERE AND AGAIN ON TREE REMOVAL RESIDENTS WHEN THEY HAVE A TREE OR THAT TYPE OF THING THEY CAN CALL US AND WE'LL HELP THEM BUT IF THEY DON'T CALL US THEY WON'T APPEAR ON HERE AT ALL. SO AND THEY ALWAYS HAVE AN OPTION TO GO TO AN OUTSIDE VENDOR SHOULD THEY WANT THAT TO TAKE THEIR ON WEEDS AND BRUSH IS CAN SEE THROUGH TIME. IT SEEMS PRETTY GENERAL IN A RANGE OF WHERE TREE WEEDS AND BRUSH REMOVAL ARE AT DELINQUENT UTILITIES WE'VE SEEN A NUMBER MORE IN PROPERTIES FROM 2021 TO NOW BUT AS WE'RE MOVING THROUGH THE DOLLARS AND AND THIS IS ALWAYS AT THE SAME POINT OF TIME AS WHEN THE ADVERTISEMENT HAPPENED ON THE 15TH SO ON DELINQUENT UTILITIES CURRENTLY WE'RE DOWN TO DOLLAR AMOUNT ABOUT 916 THAT WAS SO PEOPLE HAVE CONTINUED TO PAY DOWN ON THEIR UTILITIES AND THEN ON CIVIL FINES.  THERE'S A LOT OF ACTIVITIES IN CIVIL FINES SO THAT CONCLUDE KIND OF THE PRESENTATION OF JUST STATISTICAL INFORMATION ON THE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES OF SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS MOVING INTO PUBLIC HEARINGS. BUT IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT I CAN ANSWER NOW OR IF STAFF ARE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER SOME OF THESE, WE'LL TRY TO GET YOU SOME ANSWERS ON SOME OF THOSE PIECES. THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION. JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AND A COUPLE OF EXPLANATIONS.  FOLKS WATCHING SO THEY UNDERSTAND JUST A LITTLE BIT BETTER. YOU MENTIONED THAT ON AUGUST 28TH THE ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING FROM A NEUTRAL THIRD PARTY. CAN YOU EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT WHAT THAT IS IS IT OPEN TO EVERYONE WHAT GOES ON THERE? IS IT JUST JUST HOW IT ALL WORKS AS PART OF THE LETTER THAT GOES OUT TO THE RESIDENTS ON JULY FIRST THAT DATE IS LISTED IN THAT LETTER THAT THEY HAVE AN ABILITY TO BRING I'LL CALL IT THEIR CASE SITUATION BEFORE ADMINISTRATIVE JUDGE AND THAT PERSON IS THERE ON THE 28TH OF AUGUST AND USUALLY WE HAVE APPOINTMENTS AND SOME PEOPLE UP HERE SOME PEOPLE WALK IN AND STATE THEIR CASE AND THE MAGISTRATE JUDGE WILL TAKE IT INTO CONSIDERATION AND LOOK AT ALL THE FACTS AND MAKE A JUDGMENT.  AND SO FOLKS HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TO HAVE THEIR SAY AND YES THEY DO CAN BRING FORWARD THEIR YEAH. THEIR THEIR POINT OF VIEW ON OF THIS AND THEY MAY AGAIN TODAY AND I ASK IT AND IT'S RELATED TO MY NEXT QUESTION AS I LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF NUISANCE ABATEMENT THE JUST THE NUMBER OF HOUSEHOLDS HAS GONE FROM 14 TO 25 OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS. SO IT'S GONE UP AND JUST WONDERING IF YOU KNOW OR PERHAPS WE HAVE STAFF HERE WHO CAN TELL US HAVE THE HAVE WE UPPED THE THE ENFORCEMENT OF PUBLIC NUISANCE IS ARE THERE ARE DO WE HAVE MORE STAFF MEMBERS WORKING IS IT WHAT CAN PERHAPS EXPLAIN THE INCREASED OF IS IT MORE IS IT THE CITY DOING MORE OR IS IT JUST MORE THINGS FOR THE CITY TO BE DOING?  CITY ATTORNEY MELISSA MENDOZA I YOU MIGHT HAVE MORE INFORMATION ON THIS AND I DO THIS MANAGER BUT MAYOR I DON'T HAVE STATISTICS.  THE NUMBER OF ACTIONS OR ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS THAT HAVE GONE UP OR WHETHER THEY HAVE GONE UP I WILL SAY THAT WE HAVE SEEN THERE ARE MULTIPLE LAYERS IN THE PROCESS BEFORE YOU GET TO THIS STAGE IN ANECDOTALLY WE HAVE SEEN A NEAR DOUBLING OF ADMINISTRATIVE CONFERENCES THAT THROUGH OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT WHICH IS A LAYER IN THE APPEAL PROCESS.  SO THIS YEAR IT'S BEEN A NEAR DOUBLING.  SO IN ADDITION TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE LAW JUDGE, THERE'S WITHIN THE PROCESS THERE IS THERE ARE APPEALS WITHIN THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT HERE AT THE CITY AS WELL MAY MEMBERS YEAH THERE IS A QUITE A ROBUST ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING PROCESS AT THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON THERE IS A BACK AND FORTH FIRST WITH STAFF WITH REGARD TO COMPLIANCE WE DON'T SEEK A PUNITIVE OUTCOME. WE SEEK COMPLIANCE AND UNDERSTANDING AND THERE'S THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A AN APPEAL THROUGH OUR COMPLIANCE DIVISION AND THERE'S A THERE ARE ZOOM OR IN PERSON CONVERSATION AND THEY ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT TAKING AND IT CAN OFTENTIMES TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE CIRCUMSTANCE IS THAT HAVE GIVEN RISE TO THEIR PARTICULAR LACK OF OFTENTIMES MORE TIME OR IT'S THE WRONG SEASON OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE AND SO I THINK AT LEAST IN ONE OF THESE CIRCUMSTANCES TONIGHT THERE WAS AN ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING INTERNALLY AND A COMPLIANCE AGREEMENT AND THEY DID NOT COME INTO COMPLIANCE OR THEY CAME OUT OF COMPLIANCE OR CAME ACROSS A SPECIFIC THREAT ON TOP OF MY HEAD. BUT THERE IS A LOT OF USE OF THAT PROCESS AND OFTENTIMES FAVORABLE UNDERSTANDING OUTCOMES BUT EVERY NOW AND THEN IT'S NOT POSSIBLE.  AND JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION THE ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS THAT IS REFERENCED IN THE CFO'S COMMENTS TONIGHT IS AN OUTSIDE THIRD INDEPENDENT HEARING OFFICER FROM A PANEL OF OFFICERS. THEY ARE ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING OFFICERS AND THEY ISSUE FINDINGS OF FACT WHICH IS A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THEY LOOK AT THE FACTS THAT WERE PRESENTED THE HEARING AS WELL AS WHAT IS REQUIRED IN OUR CODE AND THE COMMUNICATIONS TO AND THE EXPLANATIONS AND DISCUSSION AND THEN THEY ISSUE A RECOMMENDATION ARE FINDINGS OF FACT THAT ARE AVAILABLE AND THEN ALSO YOU HAVE THE HEARING THAT YOU CAN HAVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION IF YOU'D THANK YOU MA'AM UNDERSTAND AND APPRECIATE THAT INFORMATION AND I APPRECIATE THE EXPLANATIONS AND AND I BRING THAT UP COUNSEL AND I THINK YOU PROBABLY ALL KNOW I MEAN THIS IS WHAT WE'RE SEEING HERE WHETHER IT'S THE PUBLIC NUISANCE ABATEMENT OR ANY OF THESE OTHER ACTIONS THAT ARE TAKING PLACE. THIS ISN'T THE CITY BEING.  THIS IS THIS IS THE CITY ENFORCING ORDINANCE, ENFORCING CODE , ENFORCING WHAT WE EXPECT OUT OF OUR OUR NEIGHBORS AND OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND OUR COMMUNITY IN TERMS OF WHETHER IT'S PUBLIC NUISANCE OR TREES OR OR WEEDS AND SO ON. AND SO I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO THAT'S IMPORTANT TO STATE THAT THIS IS NOT THIS IS NOT A PUNITIVE KIND OF THING. THIS ISN'T A MATTER OF TRYING TO GET INTO COMPLIANCE.  AND AS MS. MANDER SHADE HAS LAID OUT AND WE HEARD FROM MS. ECONOMY SHOULDER ALSO THERE ARE A NUMBER OF STEPS IN THE INTERIM UNTIL BEFORE WE GET HERE THERE ARE A NUMBER OF POSSIBILITY THESE IN A NUMBER OF WAYS TO RESOLVE THESE CONFLICTS AND THESE POSSIBLE VIOLATIONS AND WE WORK TOWARD OUR CITY STAFF WORKS TOWARD MAKING SURE THAT THOSE DO THAT THAT GOOD OUTCOMES HAPPEN FOR ALL OF THIS AND SO I JUST WANTED TO LAY THAT OUT THERE BECAUSE . I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS WHO THINK THIS IS THE CITY JUST OVERSTEPPING BEING OR OR YOU KNOW, TRYING TO PUSH PEOPLE'S BUTTONS OR THAT OF THING IS NOT THE CASE AT ALL. THIS IS THIS IS LEGITIMATE KIND OF STUFF AND WE'VE TOWARD WORK TOWARD COMPLIANCE AS BEST WE CAN SO COUNCILMEMBER WOMAN THANK YOU MAYOR FOR CLARIFYING THAT.  I THINK IT'S ALWAYS IMPORTANT FOR OUR GENERAL PUBLIC WHO'S WATCHING THIS YOU KNOW, IN TERMS TO SEE THESE NUMBERS INCREASE YOU KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE FOR FOLKS AND WHAT THAT MEANS AS I LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS I SEE THE INCREASE AS THE QUESTION THAT GOES ON IN MY MIND IS WHAT'S THE COST ,YOU KNOW, FOR YOU KNOW, FOR THIS LEVEL OF INCREASE.  AND I MEAN OBVIOUSLY I'M NOT GONNA PUT ANYBODY ON THE SPOT RIGHT NOW TO ANSWER THIS BUT WOULD I WOULD IMAGINE THAT TO GO THROUGH THIS IN EACH ONE OF THESE ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN BEEN LISTED WITH THOSE INCREASES, THERE'S GOT TO BE AN ADDITIONAL COST TO THE CITY FOR THAT OR IN MY OR AM I JUST MISTAKEN IN TERMS OF THAT IT'S THE SAME COST AT THE LOWER LEVEL SO I JUST I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT IS MY IT'S MY ASSUMPTION OR MY MY WAY OFF AND THAT'S A ROOKIE MR. MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER COLEMAN JUST TO MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR YOU'RE YOU'RE WONDERING WHAT THE COST IS TO THE CITY FOR HAVING TO ADMINISTER THIS NUMBER OF ABATEMENTS AND CONTEXT THAT THEY HAVE, CORRECT? WELL, I SAY BUT NOW MIKE, MY REAL QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A LOWER LEVEL IF YOU GO BACK AND SOME OF THESE YOU KNOW, AT SOME TIME BUT OVERALL IT SEEMS THAT WE SEEM TO HAVE AN INCREASE, YOU KNOW, FOR WHATEVER REASON, WHATEVER DRIVERS ARE FOR THAT IS THEIR INCREASE STAFF TIME THAT'S SPENT ON THIS, YOU KNOW AND WHAT'S THE IMPACT OF THIS OF THIS LEVEL OF OF OF DELINQUENCY, IF YOU WILL? MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS CLEARLY THERE IS AN INCREASE IN THE AMOUNT OF STAFF TIME AS CITY ATTORNEY MENTIONED BEFORE AND THE MAYOR MENTIONED YOU KNOW, WE WE WORK COMPLIANCE AND I WOULD SAY THAT OUR OUR STAFF INVEST QUITE A BIT OF TIME WITH CONTENT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GIVE THEM OPPORTUNITIES TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE.  I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE GOOD ABOUT WHY WE'RE SEEING MORE OF THESE GO TO ABATEMENT RATHER THAN FOLLOWING MAYBE WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAST IS A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPLIANCE WE CAN CERTAINLY TOUCH BASE WITH THE YOU KNOW THEY GIVE YOU AN ANNUAL REPORT EVERY YEAR AND SO I CAN ASK THEM TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND I DON'T TO PUT YOU IN THAT AND THAT'S WELL I THINK IT'S GOOD INFORMATION, RIGHT. IF WE HAVE IF WE HAVE SOME INDICATORS WHETHER IT'S IN THE DATA OR JUST ANECDOTAL THROUGH CUSTOMER CONTACTS. I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD ADDITIONAL CONTEXT FRANKLY BECAUSE THIS YOU KNOW, IT'S A SUBSTANTIAL INCREASE OVER PREVIOUS YEARS. WELL AND THIS MAY BE AN EXPLE MAYBE OF MAYOR OR MANAGER OF OUR LEVEL SERVICE IF WE DID A LEVEL SERVICE CUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S I DON'T IMAGINE THAT OTHER CITIES DO THIS LEVEL OF SERVICE WHEN IT COMES TO THIS. BUT THIS MIGHT BE AN EXAMPLE OF A PLACE WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR BUDGET TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF SERVICE THAT WE PROVIDE. THIS MAY BE AN EXAMPLE OF A SPOT WHERE WE REDUCE THAT'S MORE THE REASON WHY I BROUGHT THIS UP SO I THINK COUNCILMEMBER ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OTHERWISE I THINK WE WILL DOVE INTO THE PUBLIC HEARINGS THIS SO AS MS. ECONOMY SHOULDER SAID SHE GAVE THE PRESENTATION FOR EVERYTHING ALL INCLUSIVE AND THEN WE'RE GOING BREAK IT DOWN BY PUBLIC HEARING PUBLIC HEARING BY PUBLIC HEARING FOR DIFFERENT ABATEMENT FOR DIFFERENT ISSUES. AND SO THE FIRST ONE WE ARE GOING TO DO I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING RIGHT NOW AND ITEM 4.3 THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING PUBLIC NUISANCE ABATEMENT ASSESSMENTS AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE FOLKS HERE TO TALK ABOUT THIS OR ONLINE TO TALK ABOUT THIS BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT AS WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE THE CORRECT IF THEY HAVE A COMPLAINT IT'S IN THE CORRECT PUBLIC HEARING.  SO ITEM 4.3 OPEN AS A PUBLIC HEARING IS THERE ANYONE HERE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS WISHING TO SPEAK TO ITEM 4.3 THIS EVENING.  MR. ALDERMAN, IS THERE ANYONE ON THE RIGHT NOW? MR. MAYOR THERE ARE NO NO ONE ON LINE LAST CALL FOR ANYONE TO SPEAK TO ITEM 4.3 THIS EVENING THE PUBLIC NUISANCE ABATEMENT ASSESSMENT COUNCIL.  NO ONE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBER IS COMING FORWARD.  NO ONE ON THE PHONE TO SPEAK TO ITEM 4.3 I WILL LOOK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON AND 4.3 SO MOVED MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 4.3 NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE BY SAYING I OPPOSE THE MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO COUNTS ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS IF NOT WOULD LOOK FOR ACTION ON THIS COUNCILMEMBER CARTER I WOULD MOVE ADOPT A RESOLUTION ADOPTING THE ASSESSMENT ROLE FOR PUBLIC NUISANCE FOR THIS ABATEMENTS MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION ADOPTING THE ASSESSMENT FOR THE PUBLIC NUISANCE ABATEMENT NOR FOR THE COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS WE HAVE A MOTION IN THE SECOND NO FURTHER DISCUSSION ALL THOSE IN PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSE THE MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO WE MOVE ON TO ITEM 4.4. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING TREE REMOVAL ASSESSMENTS WILL OPEN THIS PUBLIC HEARING NOW AND ASK IF THERE'S ANYONE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS WHO TO SPEAK TO. ITEM 4.4 TREE REMOVAL ASSESSMENTS MR. ALDERMAN DO WE HAVE ANYONE ON THE YET?  MR. MAYOR THERE'S NO ONE ON LINE LAST CALL FOR ANYONE IN THE CHAMBERS ALSO NO ONE COMING FORWARD, NO ONE ON THE PHONE. I WOULD LOOK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THEM 4.4 SO SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER MOURA SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING IN ITEM 4.4 NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSE THE MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO CANCEL ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS REGARDING THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE TREE REMOVAL ASSESSMENTS OTHERWISE I WILL LOOK FOR ACTION COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN THERE. JUST I JUST WANT TO MENTION WITH THIS THIS TREE REMOVAL ASSESSMENT I DID TALK WITH THE CITY MANAGER EARLIER TODAY. ONE OF MY CONCERNS THAT I WANTED TO JUST I DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO GET ALL THE INFORMATION. BUT ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS JUST WHO IS TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THIS PROGRAM AND AND WHAT WHO'S BEING ASSISTED BY THE PROGRAM AND WANT TO GET SOME DATA ABOUT THAT AND I DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO COVER IT NOW BUT MAYBE IN FUTURE YEARS WE CAN COME BACK IN AND TALK ABOUT THAT WOULD KEEP IT MOVING. I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL AS PART OF THE FORESTRY DISCUSSION THAT WE'RE I'M SURE MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN JUST REALLY QUICKLY THIS IS NEW THIS FIRST YEAR WE'VE DONE THIS WHERE WE HAVE EITHER A THREE YEAR OR FIVE YEAR LEVY DEPENDING ON WHAT THE COST OF THE TREE REMOVAL WAS COUNCIL WANT TO PROVIDE THAT OPPORTUNITY RECOGNIZING THAT COST FOR THE SERVICE HAS INCREASED SUBSTANTIALLY IN RECENT YEARS AND YOU KNOW BUT PROVIDING LEAST A LITTLE BIT OF FINANCIAL FLEXIBILITY FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE SITUATION I TO COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN AND I DID DISCUSS IT YOU KNOW IT WASN'T NECESSARILY CLEAR THAT THE INTENT WAS TO SPECIFICALLY ASSIST PEOPLE WHO MAY BE LIKE IN AN INCOME ELIGIBLE CATEGORY OR YOU KNOW, IN A DIFFERENT SOCIOECONOMIC.  SO I THINK IT IS GOOD IF WE JUST TAKE A LOOK AT IT AFTER A COUPLE OF YEARS WHEN WE HAVE SOME DATA AND SEE WHO TAKING ADVANTAGE OF IT BECAUSE WHAT WE ALSO DON'T HAVE HANDY JUST FROM OUR CONVERSATION TODAY IS HOW MANY PEOPLE POTENTIALLY HAD TREE REMOVAL AS AN OPTION AND HOW MANY CHOSE THAT BECAUSE WITH THE VOLUNTARY YOU KNOW THE THE NICE THING ABOUT THIS IS THAT THEY USE THE CITY'S CONTRACTOR RATE AND WE PAY FOR IT AND THEN WE ASSESS IT TO THEM. THERE COULD BE PEOPLE ARE JUST UNAWARE OF IT AND STILL GO OUT AND FIND A PRIVATE CONTRACTOR OR KNOW THAT IT EXISTS AND STILL GO FIND A PRIVATE CONTRACTOR. SO I THINK JUST MORE THAT WE CAN LEARN AS WE CONTINUE FORWARD THIS ONE ADDITIONAL COMMENT ON THAT THAT PEOPLE THAT UTILIZE THIS WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO TRACK THEIR INCOME LEVELS UNLESS THERE'S OTHER CRITERIA THAT WE WOULD BE SEARCHING FOR AND IT IS THOSE IN NEITHER TREE REMOVED. SO THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS.  I DO HAVE A COMMENT IN THAT REGARD I THINK IT WOULD EMBODY IF ANYBODY HAS THE ABILITY TO PAY OR NOT.  MY QUESTION IS IS IS THERE A DISCOUNT FOR PEOPLE TO USE A CITY CONTRACTOR I KNOW IT'S EXPENSIVE AND I'M JUST ABOUT TO GET A TREE REMOVED AT HOME AND THAT BUT MY QUESTION IS IF ANYBODY CAN TAKE OF USING A CITY CONTRACTOR RATHER THAN LOOKING FOR THEIR OWN IF THERE'S AN ADVANTAGE PRICEWISE YOU KNOW WHEN YOU DO A VOLUME YOU GET A BETTER PRICE AND WHERE YOU DON'T IS THERE ANY ANYTHING THERE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER VERY THIS WHEN WE HAVE THIS TREE REMOVER CONTRACTOR OUR LIST WE HAVE GONE OUT FOR RFP AND OBTAINED A REASONABLE PRICE AND WE TAKE THE MOST RESPONSIVE THE LOWEST RESPONSIBLE  AS OUR CONTRACTOR SO FOR WHAT WAS OFFERED TO US THROUGH RFP PROCESS WE ARE OFFERING TO THE RESIDENTS ON SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS REGARDING THE TREE REMOVAL PUBLIC HEARING. COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN WELL I'LL BE HAPPY TO MOVE THIS IN MORE SO I'M NOT INTERESTED IN THE INCOME, I'M INTERESTED IN THE VALUE OF THE HOUSE THAT DOES IT THAT'S MORE SO WHAT I'M INTERESTED IN BECAUSE I KNOW YOU CAN'T GET INCOME OFF OF THAT SO HAPPY TO COUNCILMEMBER WE'VE GOT TWO MOTIONS AND THIS IS ON THE SCREEN IN FRONT OF YOU. OH THANK YOU. I WILL FOLLOW THIS RATHER THAN WHAT'S ON MY PAPER BECAUSE I THINK IT'S ON TWO DIFFERENT PAGES SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. I'LL MOVE A RESOLUTION ADOPTING THE ASSESSMENT RULES FOR THE DWINDLING TREE REMOVAL COSTS THREE YEAR LEVY SO MOST OF MY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SECOND MY COUNCILMEMBER TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION ADOPTING THE ASSESSMENT ROLE FOR DELINQUENT TREE REMOVAL COSTS SPECIFICALLY FOR A THREE YEAR LEVY NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO COUNCIL MEMBER LOWMAN WHERE I MOVE RESOLUTION ADOPTING THE ASSESSMENT RULES FOR DELINQUENT TREE REMOVAL FIVE YEAR LEVY SO AGAIN MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER AFTER ADOPTING THE RESOLUTION ADOPTING THE ASSESSMENT ROLE FOR THE DELINQUENT TREE REMOVAL COST OF HER FIVE YEAR LEVY NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSE MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO MOVING ON THE ITEM 4.5 A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING WEED AND BRUSH REMOVAL ASSESSMENTS I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW AND ASK IF THERE'S ANYONE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS WISHING TO SPEAK AND I AM 4.5 THIS EVENING.  MR. ALTMAN ANYONE ON THE PHONE YET? MR. MAYOR NO CALLERS ONLINE. ANYONE IN THE CHAMBERS LAST CHANCE HERE COUNCIL NO ONE COMING FORWARD NO ONE ON THE PHONE. I WOULD LOOK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ITEM 4.5 SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ITEM 4.5 NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I OPPOSE THE MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING COUNCIL ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE ANY COMMENTS?  COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO I I MOVED TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION ADOPTING ASSESSMENT RULE FOR WEED AND BRUSH REMOVAL COSTS SECOND MOTION MY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO SECOND MY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION ADOPTING THE ASSESSMENT ROLE FOR WEED AND BRUSH REMOVAL COSTS NO FOR THE COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSE THE MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO AND 4.6. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING DELINQUENT I WILL OPEN THIS PUBLIC HEARING NOW AND ASK IF ANYONE IN THE CHAMBERS WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM 4.6 OUR PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING DELINQUENT WATER SEWER STORMWATER DRAINAGE GARBAGE RECYCLING AND ORGANICS ASSESSMENTS NO ONE IN THE CHAMBERS ONCE AGAIN MR. HALDEMAN NO CALLERS ONLINE. MR. MAYOR, LAST CALL FOR ANYONE IN THE CHAMBERS COUNSEL NO ONE COMING FORWARD I WOULD LOOK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ITEM 4.6 SOMEWHAT MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING IT OUT OF 4.6 NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE THERE IS COUNCIL DISCUSSION. I JUST HAD A FOLLOW UP. NO, NO WORRIES THANK YOU MR. MAYOR, JUST ANOTHER FOLLOW UP QUESTION. SO UNLIKE THE OTHER ONES THAT ARE OUR CODE VIOLATIONS LARGELY SPEAKING THIS IS LIKE US PROVIDING SERVICE FOR WHICH SOMEBODY IS NOT WILLING TO PAY AND I THINK NOT WILLING NOT ABLE WHATEVER THE RIGHT REASON IS RIGHT.  AND SO I WANT TO BE I WANT TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT BUT ALSO I TO ENCOURAGE US TO IF THERE'S A IF THERE'S A WAY THAT WE CAN UNDERSTAND THESE NUMBERS MORE SPECIFICALLY AS IT RELATES TO IT, I KNOW THAT SINCE WE DON'T GET INCOME INFORMATION ANYMORE FROM THE STATE WE CAN'T REALLY DRAW A LOT OF CONCLUSIONS LIKE WE USED TO DO AND GET THAT. BUT I'M WONDERING IF THERE IF THE LIKE THE THE STATE AUDITOR'S OFFICE OR SOMEBODY COULD HELP US WITH THIS A LITTLE BIT IF WE ASKED FOR SOMETHING VERY SPECIFIC ON HOUSEHOLD INCOMES AS IT'S REPORTED TO THE STATE OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT WHERE NAMES AREN'T INCLUDED OR WHATEVER BECAUSE THERE'S A THERE'S A THIS IS A SERVICE I GUESS THAT SAID ANOTHER WAY I WORRY ABOUT THIS ONE MORE THAN ANYTHING BECAUSE WE EAT THESE COSTS IF WE DON'T GET THIS PAID BACK AND THAT WHEN WE SAY IT WHEN I SAY WE EAT THIS COST I MEAN THAT PEOPLE PAY VIA THEIR TAXES COSTS THAT ARE THAT THESE FOLKS INCURRED THAT FOR WHATEVER REASON THEY'RE PAYING AND UNLIKE THE OTHER ONES WHERE THERE'S YOU KNOW, THERE'S YOU COULD ARGUE THERE'S SOME SUBJECTIVITY OR WE CHANGE THE ORDINANCE OR WHATEVER AND LIKE YOU KNOW, THINGS ARE JUST THIS IS JUST ABOUT HEY WE DELIVERED X AMOUNT OF GALLONS OF WATER TO YOUR THING AND YOU DIDN'T PAY FOR IT. SO I, I DON'T I WORRY MORE ABOUT THIS ONE GOING UP THAN ANY OF THE OTHER ONES AND I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S A WAY THAT WE CAN DO SOME MORE ANALYSIS ON THIS TO JUST GET THAT GET THE LITTLE BIT TO THE BOTTOM OF WHY WE'RE SEEING THE UPTICK THAT WE SAW AND WOULD AGREE. COUNCILMEMBER THIS IS THIS IS ALWAYS I THINK IN MY MIND HAS BEEN KIND OTHE CANARY IN THE COAL MINE KIND OF LOOK TO SEE THE STRESS THAT PEOPLE HAVE FINANCIALLY THE STRESS THAT THEY HAVE JUST IN THE COST OF BEING ABLE LIVE. AND SO I WOULD AGREE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THIS OR MAYBE EVEN LONG TERM THIS IS A FOUR YEAR LOOKBACK MAYBE A LONGER TERM LOOK BACK TO SEE HOW THOSE NUMBERS HAVE CHANGED OVER THE YEARS OR SEE HOW IT I KNOW WE HAD SOME NUMBERS DURING THE RECESSION A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. THOSE WERE HIGH HIGH NUMBERS.  JUST ADDITIONAL DATA MIGHT BE HELPFUL. I DO WANT TO CLARIFY THOUGH ACCOUNTS MEMBER THIS ISN'T A MATTER OF EATING BE THIS THE CITY DOES NOT THESE COSTS BECAUSE OF THE ASSESSMENT THIS IS COMING THROUGH THE PROPERTY TAX DOLLARS SO I MEAN IT'S THEY DIDN'T PAY IT UP FRONT THEY WERE BILLED MONTHLY OR BI MONTHLY. HOWEVER IT WORKS THEY DIDN'T PAY IT UPFRONT BUT ULTIMATELY THE COSTS THAT THEY'VE INCURRED IN FULL IS PAID THROUGH THEIR TAXES ASSUMING THEY PAY THOSE TOO WELL I EVENTUALLY THAT GETS PAID AS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. YES I I AGREE WITH YOU THERE BUT THE THE NUMBER WE ACTUALLY HAVE A NUMBER IN OUR BUDGET ITEM I BELIEVE THAT SITS THERE THAT THAT TALKS ABOUT THESE OPERATIONAL COSTS. RIGHT. WASN'T IT CLOSE TO $1,000,000 IN A ROOM, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO WE DO HAVE A LINE ITEM FOR PROPERTY TAX DELINQUENCIES IS LIKE A DEDUCT WHEN WE ARE DOING OUR FINAL BUDGET AND WE ALSO HAVE A LINE ITEM FOR DELINQUENT REVENUES THAT COME IN AFTER THE FACT. RIGHT. SO PROPERTY TAXES ALWAYS GET COLLECTED IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WHEN AND FROM WHOM. RIGHT. AND SO WHAT ENDS UP HAPPENING IS THAT THESE GET CREDIT BACK TO THE UTILITY AFTER THEY COME IN THROUGH PROPERTY TAXES SO THE ACCOUNTS GET MADE HALL THE REAL IF THERE IS A COST TO THE CITY HERE IT'S A CARRY COST RATE. SO NOT HAVING THE FULL AMOUNT OF COLLECTIONS AS REVENUES AND THEN WHATEVER YOU'RE LOST INTEREST IS FOR THE BALANCES THAT YOU'RE CARRYING.  SO YES THERE IS A COST. YEAH YEAH I WOULD SAY THE DIFFERENTLY IT'S THE TIME VALUE OF MONEY. YEAH CORRECT RIGHT AND WE ARE EATING THE TIME VALUE OF THEM. YES I'LL SAY IT THAT WAY THEN THINK THAT'S A GOOD POINT COUNCILMEMBER. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THAT.  SO WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND ON THIS IF I RECALL WE HAVE A MOTION IN THE SECOND AND ANY FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS?  YEP. DO DO WE NOW KNOW MOTION OR MOTION TO CLOSE YOU HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BUT NOT RIGHT MORE AND ALESSANDRA TO CLOSE I APOLOGIZE.  THOUGHT WE HAD A MOTION TO MOVE THIS ALONG LOOKING FOR A MOTION AND I'M SORRY, DID I DID I CORRECTLY MAKE MY COMMENTS DURING THE TO CLOSE? YEAH THAT'S REALLY SORRY I OBVIOUSLY HEAD COLD IS WORSE THAN I THOUGHT. I APOLOGIZE SO WE NEED TO CLOSE THAT PUBLIC HEARING WITH MY BIG MOUTH ALONG WITH BIG MOUTH.  OKAY. OKAY. BUT WE JUST KNEW WE WENT IN . NOW WE NEED A MOTION COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO WE NEED A MOTION ON ITEM 4.6 TO MAKE THAT MOTION WITH MAYOR A MOTION I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION ADOPT A RESOLUTION ADOPTING THE ASSESSMENT ROLE FOR DELINQUENT WATER SEWER STORMWATER, GARBAGE RECYCLING AND ORGANICS ASSESSMENTS MOST OF MY COUNCIL MEMBER DALLESSANDRO SECOND MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION STATED IN ITEM 4.6 NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSE THE MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO AND THANK YOU FOR KEEPING TRACK OF ALL THAT I'VE GOT SIDETRACKED THERE A BIT.  OUR FINAL PUBLIC HEARING OF THE EVENING IS FOR CIVIL FINES THIS IS ITEM 4.7 AND I WILL OPEN THIS PUBLIC HEARING THIS IS ITEM 4.7 THE PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING CIVIL FINES FOR PROPERTY RELATED VIOLATION ASSESSMENTS ANYONE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS WISHING TO SPEAK PLEASE COME FORWARD AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND STICKING WITH US AS WE GET THROUGH EVERYTHING ELSE. GOOD EVENING.  WHAT WE'LL DO WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING. WE NEED YOUR NAME.  WE COULD PLEASE MAKE SURE WE GET THAT FOR THE RECORD AND THEN WE'VE GOT THE FIVE MINUTE CLOCK ON THE WALLS SO WE AND EVERY PUBLIC HEARING ALLOW FOLKS TO SPEAK UP TO 5 MINUTES ITSELF AND THEN YOU CAN SIGN IN AFTER.  YOU'RE DONE. SO IT'S FINE. SO GOOD EVENING. WELCOME. HI.  I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF MY BROTHER AMENDOLA DARCY IS IN A FIXED INCOME AND AGAIN I'M SORRY IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME SO WE HAVE THAT FOR THE RECORD AS WELL RAJ ONE OKAY THANK YOU. I'M I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF MY BROTHER AMENDOLA. I HAD DARCY ON SO PROPERTY HERE IN BLOOMINGTON. OKAY THANK YOU SO HE HE DOES HAVE A TRAILER AND LAST YEAR WE WERE MOVING OUT AND WE WERE KIND SHIFTING THE STUFF FROM THE HOUSE IN AND OUT BY USING A SO WE GOT THE NOTICE THE TRAILERS TOO BIG TO PARK IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE SO.  I CAME HERE AND I SAID THAT WE ARE USING THIS TRAILER BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A RENOVATION OUR HOUSE WE NEED A TRAILER TO USE AND WE ARE MOVING THE STUFF AND OUT AND THEY FIND US HUNDRED AND $50 AND AFTER I TALKING TO THE CITY ATTORNEY HE SAID HE'S GOING TO WAIVE AND I SIGNED THE CONTRACT AND THIS SUMMER AGAIN WE ARE STILL NOT DONE WE HAD A CONTRACTOR COMING AND DO SOME WORK IN OUR HOUSE AND AGAIN WE ARE USING THEIR TRAILER SO ONE OF THOSE GUYS CAME AND SAW THE TRAILER WAS PARKED OUTSIDE IN OUR HOUSE BECAUSE WE ARE USING IT AND THEY FIND US NOW THEY INCREASE THE LATE FEE AND PENALTY SAY CAMP TO $350 WELL MY BROTHER HE'S A DECEMBER HE'S ON A FIXING CAR AND WE WERE USING THE TRAILER TO DO OUR STUFF OF A PERSONAL BUSINESS AND WHILE WE DON'T WHEN WE USE TRAILER WE STORE SOMEWHERE ELSE AND THIS IS A SUMMER AND IT'S A GOOD TIME FOR US TO DO THE WORK INSIDE THE HOUSE MOVING IN AND OUT WHATEVER YOU KNOW WITH BIG FAMILY WE HELP EACH OTHER. SO I'M HERE TO ASK THIS IS RIDICULOUS TO FIND A $350 WITH A FIXED INCOME WE CAN BARELY WE CAN'T MEET OUR ENDS MEET EITHER YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ALL THESE KIND OF BILLS WE JUST PAY $500 FOR THE WIRE AND GARBAGE, YOU KNOW? I MEAN AND WE HAVE OTHER EXPENSE AND WE ARE USING TRAILER IS NOT THAT WE ARE PACKING THIS TRAILER OUTSIDE OUR HOUSE TO MAKE YOU GUYS ENJOY YOU KNOW IT IS PURPOSE OF IT SO I'M ASKING YOU KNOW TO WHERE THIS FEE HUNDRED AND $50 OR DO SOMETHING ELSE THANK YOU FOR FOR COMING TONIGHT AND THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION LET ME ASK YOU A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. DID DID YOU DID YOU USE THE ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING OFFICER THAT WE DESCRIBED EARLIER THAT PROCESS? YEAH, I THINK I WAS IN MEETING HERE IN AUGUST 28. YES. YOU ASKED ME TO COME TONIGHT. THAT'S WHY I'M HERE. OKAY. SO THIS IS A FIRST TIME THAT I DON'T KNOW THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I UNDERSTOOD ANYTHING. IT CAN BE IT CAN BE CONFUSING. I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT YEAH SO YOU DID GO TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING OFFICER ON AUGUST 28TH. YES. AND MS.. MANDERS, I BELIEVE YOU YOU PROVIDED THE COUNSEL WITH SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THE DIFFERENT FINDINGS AT THE ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING OFFICER YES. MAYOR AND MEMBERS I PULLED UP THE PROPOSED FINDINGS OF FACT CONCLUSIONS OF LAW AND RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE HEARING THAT HELD THE HEARING ON AUGUST 28TH RELATED TO THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED AND I THE I HAVE I DON'T KNOW TO WHAT EXTENT YOU WANT ME TO GET INTO THE DETAILS BUT I CAN SKIP TO THE ULTIMATE RECOMMENDATION WHICH WAS TO A COUPLE UPHOLD YEAH THE OWNER DIDN'T COMPLY WITH THE TERMS THERE WERE THERE WERE MULTIPLE AGREEMENTS WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER AND THE OWNER HAS NOT PAID THE FINES. THE AMOUNT OF $325 JUST FOR FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE COUNCIL AND TRYING TO MAKE THIS DECISION. CAN YOU SUMMARIZE JUST QUICKLY BRIEFLY THE THE DIFFERENT AGREEMENTS WERE AGREED TO AND THAT THAT MAYOR REMEMBERS THERE HAVE BEEN TWO AGREEMENTS AND THERE THERE'S A TRAILER AS WAS MENTIONED THAT HAS COME BACK A COUPLE OF TIMES AS WAS REFERENCED IN THE TESTIMONY THERE HAS BEEN NO CONTACT AS WAS EXPLAINED TO ME WITH ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH TO REQUEST MORE TIME.  AND SO THE HEARING OFFICER CONCLUDED THAT THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE VIOLATION HAVE BEEN MET AND IS RECOMMENDING THAT THE ASSESSMENTE MADE.  THANK YOU. MS. MAGISTRATE COUNSEL ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE MANAGEMENT ON THIS ONE?  I DO HAVE COUNCILMEMBER ELIAS YOU HAVE A QUESTION SINCE THIS CONSTRUCTION GOING ON IN THERE I MEAN I WHEN I DRIVE AROUND OCCASIONALLY PEOPLE PLACE THIS BIG CONTAINERS LARGE TRAILERS OPEN TOP THAT THEY TOLD CERTAIN MATERIAL IN AND THEY STATED FOR WEEKS AS LONG AS THEIR WORK IS REQUIRED TO TO BE DONE UNTIL HE STARTS THE CASE IN THIS PARTICULAR EVENT OR WHAT IS THE TRAILER LIKE?  MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS YOU KNOW THANK YOU COUNCILMAN RIVAS.  YOU KNOW, I THINK THE ONE OF THE ISSUES HERE THAT THE THE TRAILER KEEPS REAPPEARING, IT'S NOT COMPLYING WITH THE CODE AND AS THE CITY ATTORNEY SAID IN THE CONCLUSIONS OF LAW THE OWNER REQUESTED AND WE'RE GRANTED TWO ADMINISTRATIVE CONFERENCES THE CITY JANUARY 9TH OF 2023 AND DECEMBER 5TH OF 2023 FOR ADMINISTRATIVE CITATIONS THE OWNER EXECU CITED TWO AGREEMENTS TO SUSPEND ADMINISTRATIVE CITATION WITH THE CITY ON FEBRUARY 23RD AND JANUARY 22ND, 2023 AND 2024.  AND THEN THE OWNER DID NOT COMPLY WITH THE TERMS OF THE AGREEMENT TO SUSPEND THE ADMINISTRATIVE CITATION THAT WAS SIGNED ON FEBRUARY 23RD, 2023. SO THAT'S THE THE REASON IS THAT THEY HAD AGREEMENTS THEY UNDERSTOOD WHAT THE CITATIONS FOR AND THEN THEY CONTINUED TO TO VIOLATE THE CODE GOING SO THEY DIDN'T FOLLOW THE AGREEMENT THAT THEY HAD AND THAT'S WHAT RESULTED IN THE CITATION BEING ISSUED. IT'S NOT THE BUT WE NEEDED THIS TRAILER THAT'S WHY WE CAME BACK SO WE DO USE THAT TRAILER LIKE I SAID WE DO NOT MAKE TO IGNORE YOU GUYS WE ARE USING THAT AND WHILE I WAS IN A MEETING ON AUGUST 28 I DIDN'T KNOW THIS AND THEY TOLD US IF YOU NEED TO USE A TRAILER, GIVE US A HEADS UP SO YOU ARE GOING TO THIS TRAILER SO YOU DON'T GET THE TICKET A VIOLATION YOU KNOW IT'S NOT THAT IT COMING BACK. YEAH BECAUSE BECAUSE WE ARE USING RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ALREADY STORE WE ARE DONE WITH OUR WORK YOU MIGHT COME BACK IN THE NEXT SUMMER AND NOW I KNOW THAT WHEN WE BRING OUR TRAILER I'M GOING TO HAVE TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THIS RELEASE OUT THERE WE ARE GOING TO BE USING SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ALREADY STARTED IT'S NOT PARK OUTSIDE THE HOUSE THANK YOU MS.. MADSEN MAY REMEMBERS THE INFORMATION THAT WAS JUST PROVIDED IS RELATIVELY CONSISTENT WHAT WAS PROVIDED DURING THE HEARING IN AUGUST THE END OF AUGUST THAT TIME THE OWNER EXPLAINED ADMITTED THAT THE TRAILER OVERSIZE TRAILERS STORED ON THE PROPERTY DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS THE STAFF EXPLAINED TO THE THE TESTIFIED TONIGHT I BELIEVE THAT THE SIZE OF THE TRAILER CANNOT BE ON RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY AND IF THERE IS A HOME IMPROVEMENT PROJECT THAT IS THAT REQUIRES THE USE OF THE TRAILER THEY NEED TO CONTACT STAFF TO REQUEST A TEMPORARY STORAGE OF THE OVERSIZE TRAILER SO MRS. BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED IT APPEARS THAT THE OWNER IN THE HERE TONIGHT UNDERSTAND THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE LAW IT'S BEEN A PART OF THE CONVERSATION THAT THEY HAVE HAD AT DIFFERENT STAFF LEVELS OVER THE YEAR OVER MORE THAN A YEAR.  SO IT'S CERTAINLY UP TO THE DISCRETION OF THE CITY COUNCIL. IT IS THE RECOMMENDATION OF STAFF AND CONSISTENT WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE HEARING OFFICER THAT THE ASSESSMENT BE SUSTAINED THANK YOU THANK YOU I THINK IF IF THE COUNCIL HAS QUESTIONS COUNCIL MEMBER I THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY SO THE ORIGINAL VIOLATION HAPPENED BEFORE AND THE ISSUE AT HAND IS THAT  THE SIZE OF THE TRAILER IS BIGGER THAN WHAT WE ALLOW BECAUSE IT IT'S FOOT SIX OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT I GUESS MY MY QUESTION THE TO THE APPELLANT HERE OR TO YOU MR. MAYOR IS IF WE WAIVE THE FEE THE FIRST TIME AND WE SAID DON'T USE THIS TRAILER IT'S BIGGER THAN WHAT WE ALLOW WHY DID THE TRAILER COME BACK A SECOND TIME? DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU COULDN'T HAVE USED A DIFFERENT TRAILER THAT FIT THE RIGHT DIMENSIONS OR THAT YOU COULD HAVE IF YOU'RE DOING A HOME IMPROVEMENT PROJECT THAT WOULD PULL A PERMIT AND THEN WHEN YOU PULL A PERMIT YOU CAN USE TRAILER RIGHT? BUT IT SEEMS LIKE HAVE WE DID THE RIGHT THING FIRST BY WAIVING THE FEE THE FIRST TIME AND SAID YEAH JUST THE TRAILER IS TOO BIG DON'T BRING IT BACK LIKE DON'T DO DON'T USE IT AND . THE OPTIONS EXISTED TO HAVE A SMALLER TRAILER OR A DIFFERENT KIND OF TRAILER OR A PERMIT ISSUED WHICH GAVE A TEMPORARY LICENSE TO THE AND NONE OF THOSE WERE EXERCISED. SO I GUESS MY QUESTION WOULD BE HOW IS THAT GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN NEXT YEAR IF IF WE WAIVE THE FEE AGAIN, I'M JUST I'M A CONFUSED I GUESS AS TO WHY WHEN WE WE TRY TO TAKE CARE IT THE FIRST TIME AND DID THE RIGHT THING WHY WHY WHY THE COMPLIANCE OBVIOUS THE SECOND TIME AROUND I GUESS THE SECOND TIME WHEN WE HAD A CONSTRUCTION WHEN WE WERE REMODELING OUR HOUSE I CAME HERE IN TAKORADI ENVIRONMENT IS THIS SPRING WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A WINDOW WINDOW REPLACED AND WE ARE GOING TO DO REMODELING SO WE'RE GOING TO PUT OUR TRAILER OUTSIDE AND.  HE WAS OKAY WITH THAT AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN WE GET THE TICKET THAT THE TRAILER IS PARKED OUTSIDE TOO SO THERE'S NO CONFLICT I'M GETTING A MIXED MESSAGES NOW THEY SAID IF YOU WANT TO USE TRAILER LET US KNOW SO WE DON'T GIVE YOU A TICKET NOW I WAS HERE YOU NEVER TALK INTO THIS ENVIRONMENT OF PEOPLE AND I SAY WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A PROJECT. THAT'S WHY YOU CAME BACK. I RIGHT.  OKAY. I GUESS MR. MAYOR, THE QUESTION THE ULTIMATE QUESTION IN MY OPINION IS SHOULD WE TO WAIVE A FEE ON A TRAILER THAT IS NOT COMPLIANT I MEAN A DIFFERENT TRAILER THAT IS COMPLIANT WE WOULDN'T BE IN THIS SITUATION, CORRECT? YES. I APPRECIATE YOUR I APPRECIATE YOUR POINT IT UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO SAY AND UNDERSTAND ULTIMATELY THE ISSUE IS WITH THE SIZE OF THE TRAILER THE ISSUE IS NOT WHETHER USING IT FOR A PROJECT ALTHOUGH I'D ARGUE THAT IF YOU'RE DOING HOME IMPROVEMENT YOU'RE NOT PULLING A PERMIT THERE'S A DIFFERENT PROBLEM THERE BUT YEAH YEAH.  ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. IF IF THE COUNCIL ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS WE'LL CALL YOU BACK UP AND WE'LL GO QUITE WELL SEEKING YOUR ANSWERS BUT THANK YOU. YOU CAN HAVE YOUR SEAT NOW AND WE'LL SEE.  WE LIKE TO HAVE THE COUNCIL CONTINUE TO HAVE THE COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS COUNCIL HOW LONG OR HOW BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH I FORGOT ABOUT THAT. YES, THANK YOU. WE'LL SEE IF THERE'S ANYONE ELSE IN CHAMBERS WHO'S WISHING TO SPEAK HERE SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO LIVE HERE?  I JUST THINK YOU JUST YOU CAN SIT DOWN. SIT DOWN. SO WE'LL WE'RE TAKING TESTIMONY ON THE ON THE ON THE HEARING RIGHT NOW. SO AND I APPRECIATE YOUR PUBLIC HEARING IS RIGHT NOW AS WELL. SO THANK SO AND I GET THE ANSWER THEN I DON'T KNOW HOW DOES IT WORK YES YOU WILL YOU WILL EVENTUALLY WE HAVE TO GET THROUGH THE PUBLIC HEARING FIRST TO GET THROUGH THE PUBLIC FIRST.  SO IF YOU HAVE A SEAT. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE CHAMBERS WISHES TO SPEAK TO ITEM 4.7 THIS EVENING A PUBLIC HEARING FOR CIVIL FINES HIGH ROBERT COLEMAN I'M NOT ONE OF THE PEOPLE ON THE LIST OF PEOPLE HAVE A FINE I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THAT. I DO HAVE A FRIEND WHO JUST LIKE 30 MINUTES AGO REALIZED THAT SHE WAS ON THE LIST AND I WANTED I'M NOT ASKING ANYTHING SPECIFIC ABOUT HER CASE BUT I JUST WANT TO ASK LIKE IF IF IT'S NOT RIGHT BECAUSE THIS IS ABOUT IT HASN'T BEEN PAID IT'S GOING TO GO ON TO THE TAX BILL. IS THERE AN ADDITIONAL PENALTY FOR THAT? AND THEN THE SECOND THING IS HER SPECIFIC THING WAS, THE PUBLIC NUISANCE CATEGORY. I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S YOU KNOW, TOO LATE TO TALK ABOUT THAT JUST LIKE WHAT FURTHER LIKE IF SHE STILL HAS ANY RECOURSE OR IF SHE DID SHE THOUGHT THAT THEY THAT THEY WERE SETTLED WITH THE CITY AND DIDN'T DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THERE WAS MORE THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE SO JUST ASKING IN GENERAL THIS WASN'T BY LIKE HER WAS ASKING APPROPRIATE. THANK YOU MR. MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBERS I WOULD SUGGEST MR. COLEMAN SPEAK WITH OUR CFO HERE OR I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S NECESSARILY A DISCUSSION FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING HERE BUT CERTAINLY WE WANT TO GET THE INFORMATION THAT YOU CAN SHARE WITH YOUR FRIEND.  I THINK SHE'S WATCHING RIGHT NOW SO CHEERS ARE GOOD.  THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE IN THE CHAMBER IS WISHING TO SPEAK TO HIM 4.7 MR. BOZEMAN ANYONE ON THE LINE WISHING TO SPEAK TEN AND 4.7 NO CALLERS ON LINE MR. MAYOR LAST CALL FOR ANYBODY IN THE CHAMBERS COUNSEL WE HEARD FROM FOLKS HERE AT THE PUBLIC HEARING BUT NO ONE ELSE COMING FORWARD, NO ONE ON THE PHONE. I WOULD LOOK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THEM 4.7 SO MOVED MOST BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN BY COUNCILMEMBER RELAX TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT EIGHT AND 4.7 NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I AM OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING SO NOW COUNCIL QUESTIONS THOUGHTS ON THE THE QUESTION THAT WAS BROUGHT FORWARD BY THE APPELLATE HERE AND WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD SIMPLY ADOPTING THE RESOLUTION ADOPTING THE ASSESSMENT ROLE OR SINGLE THIS ARE THE WHO WE HEARD THIS EVENING SINGLED THEM OUT FROM THE ASSESSMENT ROLE FOR WHATEVER REASON IF IT'S THE IF IT'S THE THE DESIRE OF THE COUNCIL THEN ADOPT THE REST OF THE ASSESSMENT ROLE. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?  COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN THANK YOU MARY FOR BEING CLEAR.  I GUESS AS I LOOK AT THIS, THE THING THAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IN MY MIND IS WHERE THE CONFUSION IS AND HOW I KNOW THERE IS A WAIVING OF THE OF THE FIRST TIME AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT SO I JUST WANT TO BE SURE THAT WASN'T ANY CONFUSION FROM A YOU KNOW COMMUNICATION STANDPOINT THAT WOULD BE THE OTHER CONCERN THAT I WOULD HAVE IN TERMS OF BEING CLEAR IN TERMS OF WHAT OUR PROCESS BECAUSE IT'S IT'S TROUBLING TO ME THAT THAT THE SAME TRAILER COULD COME BACK TO THE LOCATION WITH THE UNDERSTANDING OF FROM THIS INDIVIDUAL THAT THEY COULD STILL USE THAT AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M CLEAR AND UNDERSTAND IN MY MIND THAT THIS IS NOT SOMETHING EVEN THAT THE STAFF CAN CAN WAIVE AFTER THAT FIRST TIME. RIGHT. AM I CLEAR ABOUT THAT IN MY MIND HERE OR IS THAT IS THAT WITHIN THE PREROGATIVE OF STAFF TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO LET YOU USE THIS THIS TRAILER AND ASK MR. BREWER IN JUST A MOMENT HERE WHAT I HEARD AND WHAT I HEARD AND READ AS TO THE FACTS OF THE CASE DISCUSSED.  IT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT STAFF TRIES TO GET THE COMPLIANCE AND MET WITH THIS THIS THESE FOLKS A COUPLE DIFFERENT TIMES BASICALLY KIND OF LAID OUT HOW WE WOULD ALL WORK GOT AGREEMENT FOR LAYING OUT ABOUT HOW IT WOULD ALL WORK BOTH IN OVER THE WINTER A COUPLE OF TIMES A DECEMBER DATE AND A JANUARY DATE AND SO ON AND AND THEN ULTIMATELY THE TRAILER CAME BACK AGAIN SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WAS A CONFUSION. I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS WHAT I WAS HEARING IS THAT THE STAFF WAS WORKING TOWARD COMPLIANCE AND THE COMPLIANCE WASN'T THERE. MR. FAROOQ, YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS I THINK THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD SUMMARY. I WOULD JUST REITERATE THAT WE AS THE CITY ATTORNEY SAID THE INFORMATION WAS SHARED IS SIMILAR TO THE INFORMATION THAT WAS SHARED WITH THE HEARING OFFICER AND THE HEARING OFFICER MADE FINDINGS OF FACT AND UPHELD THE ACTIONS OF THE CITY IN THIS REGARD. AND SO I THAT THOSE ISSUES HAVE BEEN EXPLORED IN ANSWER TO THE SATISFACTION OF THE HEARING OFFICER THANK YOU,  MARY. SO I THINK GIVEN GIVEN THAT WE HAVE A PROCESS AND A PROCEDURE BY WHICH THAT WE SEND THESE CASES OVER TO AN ADMINISTRATIVE AND WE HAVE FINDINGS FACTS I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING THIS EVENING THAT WOULD DISSUADE ME FROM MAKING THAT SAME CONCLUSION BECAUSE I THINK THAT IF WE AS A COUNCIL WANT TO DO THAT. I THINK WE'VE GOT TO BE ABLE TO AT LEAST I WOULD WANT TO BE ABLE TO CLEARLY STATE WHAT IT IS THAT REASON WHY WE ARE NOT GOING TO FOLLOW WHAT'S BEEN LAID OUT THERE AND.  I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT NOT ONLY YOU KNOW FOR THIS SITUATION BUT IT'S A SIGNAL TO ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS IN TERMS OF HOW WE MAKE OUR DECISIONS ABOUT HOW WE FOLLOW OUR POLICIES. AND SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT HERE THAT WE UPHOLD WHAT WE SAY WE'RE GOING TO DO AND I THINK THAT THAT'S AN IMPORTANT THAT WE DO THAT. AND SO GIVEN THAT I DON'T HAVE ANY NEW INFORMATION TO TO DO THIS BASIS, I THINK THAT WE HAD TO INCLUDE THIS IN WITH THE WITH THE THE UNPAID CIVIL FINES FOR PROPERTY VIOLATIONS AND BEFORE THE THOUGHTS COUNCIL COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN IF YOU WANTED TO MAKE THAT MOTION THEN I'D MAKE THAT MOTION AND ON THE SCREEN IN FRONT OF YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR I'LL MOVE TO ADOPT RESOLUTION TO ADOPT THE ASSESSMENT RULES FOR THE UNPAID PENALTIES AND FINES. WE HAVE A MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND AND A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER DALLESSANDRO TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION ADOPTING THE ASSESSMENT RULE FOR UNPAID CIVIL PENALTIES AND FIND ANY FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS HEARING ON ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED THE MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO. MR.. MR.. THANK YOU MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS JUST FOLLOWING UP TO THE ONE SPEAKER WHO ASKED ON BEHALF OF ANOTHER ABOUT THE TIMING. SO WITH THE COUNCIL'S ACTION IT DOESN'T AUTOMATICALLY PUT THESE ON TO THE PROPERTY TAXES FOR NEXT YEAR. ANYBODY WHO IS ON THESE LIST HAS UNTIL TYPICALLY THE END OF NOVEMBER TO MAKE PAYMENT AND THEN IT DOES NOT GET PUT ON THE PROPERTY TAXES IF.  IT DOES IF IT DOES GET CERTIFIED TO THE TAXES IF IT'S NOT PAID YET. THIS YEAR THERE IS A $50 ADMINISTRATIVE FEE THAT IS ADDED TO THE TOTAL.  TO MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER, CITY MANAGER, THE $50 IS ADDED ON TODAY. SET IT ON TODAY IT IS ADDED ON TODAY BECAUSE IT CAME TO THE PUBLIC HEARING. SO THANK YOU.  ALL RIGHT. AND SO JUST TO CLARIFY WHAT WE JUST DID WE THE COUNCIL DID NOT AGREE WITH THE THAT YOU WERE MAKING AND SO WE ADOPTED THE THE UNPAID THE ASSET ASSESSMENT RULE FOR UNPAID CIVIL PENALTIES AND FINES AND INCLUDED THE ADDRESS THAT YOU WERE HERE DISCUSSING IN THAT. SO ULTIMATELY THE THE UNPAID PENALTIES AND FINES HAVE TO BE PAID. SO I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT AND MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND $50. YES. YES, YES. THIS IS RIDICULOUS. I MEAN WE CAN HAVE THE SUPPORT OF A FAMILY FOR $50. I PROBABLY YOU'RE NOT IN ORDER HERE. WE HAD A PUBLIC HEARING. WE HEARD THE HEARD YOUR ARGUMENT. THE COUNCIL HAD A DISCUSSION. YOU HEARD THE DISCUSSION. WE IN THE COUNCIL RULED NOT IN FAVOR OF WHAT YOU WERE ARGUING.  I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT, BUT THAT'S THAT'S THE CASE HERE. I'M SORRY. SO SO YOU WILL HAVE TO PAY THE $350 FINE? YES. 350 OR 325 325 WHATEVER IT IS AND AND WHATEVER AMOUNT OWED IS YOU'LL HAVE TO END UP PAYING MAYOR AND COUNCIL. IT WOULD BE WHATEVER THE AMOUNT OWED PLUS THE $50. SO I DON'T KNOW THE I DON'T KNOW WHAT TOTAL IS BUT YES YOU WILL HAVE TO YOU WILL HAVE TO PAY THE AMOUNT OWED. YES IN TOTAL AND MAYOR AND COUNCIL WHEN THEY WHEN THE LETTERS ARE SENT OUT ON JULY 1ST ALL THE TIMES AND FEE INCREASES AT THE $50 AS OF TODAY IS ALL LAID OUT IN THAT LETTER THAT THEY ALL RECEIVE ON JULY 1ST THAT IT'S MAILED OUT SO VERY CLEAR DIRECTIONS TO ALL THE PROPERTY OWNERS. ALL RIGHT.  THANK YOU. THAT'S RIDICULOUS. YOU ARE ADDING $50 ON TOP OF IT. THERE WAS NO POINT SITTING HERE FOR 3 HOURS AND I DIDN'T GET ANYTHING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR COMING IN AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND THANK YOU, MS.. ECONOMY SCHULER FOR LEADING US THROUGH THE PUBLIC HEARINGS THIS EVENING. WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM FIVE ON OUR AGENDA, OUR ORGANIZATIONAL BUSINESS AND OUR FIRST ITEM IS OUR OPPORTUNITY HOUSING ORDINANCE AND UPDATE.  IS IS AN INFORMATION ONLY. NO ACTION IS KENNY NIEMEYER WELCOME. GOOD EVENING. OH AND KIM, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. WELL AS WELL THIS EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL I JUST WANTED TO SAY A FEW WORDS BEFORE WE GET STARTED ON THE PRESENTATION BECAUSE I SPENT ON THE KNOWLEDGE THAT THIS IS ONE OF THE WAYS THAT BLOOMINGTON REALLY STANDS OUT WITH THIS ORDINANCE BECAUSE BLOOMINGTON IS LEADING THE WAY DEMONSTRATING CITIES CAN ENACT STRATEGIES AND ORDINANCE AND POLICY THAT PRODUCE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. SINCE THIS ORDINANCE HAS BEEN IN PLACE 639 UNITS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING HAVE BEEN PRODUCED HERE IN BLOOMINGTON AND THIS GETS TO 82% OF THE GOAL FOR 2030 AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR THE COMMUNITY. SO IT'S A REALLY BIG ACCOMPLISH AND JUST FOUR OR FIVE YEARS. AND I ALSO JUST WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THAT'S 15 DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS THAT HAVE HAPPENED TO CONTRIBUTE TO THAT NUMBER THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT IT TAKES FOR BOTH THE ORGANIZATION TO SUPPORT THAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT, ALL THE DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE CITY TOUCH THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. THE CITY COUNCIL PUTS IN A LOT OF WORK IT'S A REPORT PLANNING COMMISSION ALL THE DIFFERENT AGENCIES AND ALSO THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY THAT REALLY HAS TO STEP UP AND WORK THE NUANCES OF COMPLYING WITH AN ORDINANCE LIKE THIS. SO TO SPEND THE KNOWLEDGE IT'S A REALLY BIG DEAL. SO THAT'S PART OF WHY WE HAVE THIS ANNUAL UPDATE.  SO CAN YOU WILL DO WITH MEAT OF THE THE WORK HERE. THANK YOU FOR THAT INTRO EVENING WELCOME. THANK YOU MAYOR COUNCILMEMBERS . KENNY NIEMEYER HOUSING DEVELOPMENT SPECIALIST AND AS YOU KNOW ITEM IS THE OCHOA ORDINANCE IMPLEMENTATION REPORT WHICH PER THE ORDINANCE WE BRING BEFORE A COUNCIL BEFORE FIRST OF EACH YEAR. SO WE'LL GO THROUGH SOME ANNUAL UPDATES THAT OCCURRED SINCE THE LAST REPORT. WE'LL GO THROUGH SOME PROJECTS RELATED TO THE OCHOA AND THEN WE'LL FINISH OFF WITH SOME QUICK DEVELOPMENT UPDATES.  SO JUST TO GROUND US IN WHAT THE RENT AND INCOME LIMITS THAT'S IMPORTANT THAT'S THAT'S WHAT THE TENANTS WHO STAY IN THESE UNITS ARE PAYING AND IT'S BASED OFF OF HUD'S INCOME LIMITS WHICH ARE SET EACH YEAR. SO OF NOTE FOR 2024 THERE WAS NO CHANGE TO THE MEDIAN INCOME BELOW 80%. AND WHAT THAT MEANS FOR OUR PROGRAM IS THERE IS NO CHANGE TO THE RENT MAXIMUMS THAT PROPERTY OWNERS CAN SET. SO THAT SIGNIFICANT THIS YEAR WE WERE SEEING INCREASES IN PREVIOUS YEARS BUT FROM 23 TO 24 THERE WAS NO CHANGE.  OF COURSE IT'S STILL WORTH NOTING THAT THESE ARE STILL HIGH RENTS SO OUR BASELINE REQUIREMENT FOR 60% AMI THAT'S WHAT PROPERTY DEVELOPERS ARE EXPECTED COMPLY WITH A TWO BED FOR EXAMPLE THAT'S STILL ALMOST 1700 DOLLARS A MONTH. SO THEY'RE STILL QUITE HIGH.  BUT WE DID SEE THAT STABLE FROM 23 TO 24. SO WE WANTED TO COVER QUICKLY. OF THE 11 HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS THAT WERE APPROVED UNDER THE OCHOA WE MENTIONED THERE ARE 15 PROJECTS THAT GO TOWARD OUR COUNCIL GOALS.  11 OF THOSE HAVE COMPLIED WITH REQUIREMENTS OF THOSE PROJECTS ALL HAVE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET A PARKING STALL REDUCTION. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARD FLEXIBILITIES THAT ARE AVAILABLE THROUGH THE WHOLE AND IN 2023.  WE SAW THE FIRST TIME THAT A PROJECT TOOK ADVANTAGE OF RECEIVING PROJECT BASED VOUCHERS AND THAT WAS THROUGH A PARTNERSHIP WITH OUR HRA AND THAT'S THE 700 AMERICAN BOULEVARD DEVELOPMENT WHICH IS LOOKING BREAK GROUND STILL THIS YEAR.  SO I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TRUST FUND WHICH HAS BEEN IN PLACE SINCE 2019. IT WAS FUNDED INITIALLY A $15 MILLION LOAN FROM OLD NATIONAL BANK THAT WE THEN SUB LOANED TO HOUSING DEVELOPERS.  YOU CAN SEE THOSE LOANS ON THE RIGHT AND IT'S WORTH NOTING WITH THAT FUNDING WE WERE ABLE TO SUPPORT 23 UNITS OF 30 AFFORDABLE HOUSING AFFORDABLE TO HOUSEHOLDS EARNING 30% OR LESS OF THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME. AND AS YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S A VERY DIFFICULT RENT LEVEL TO PROVIDE. SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE CITY IS SUPPORTING THOSE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS.  WE'RE ALSO ABLE TO PRESERVE 306 UNITS OF NATURALLY OCCURRING AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT WAS WITH THE BLOOMING MEADOWS PROJECT AND THE BLOOMING MEADOWS PROJECT ALSO PROVIDED NEW HOUSING. SO WE'RE AS A DEPARTMENT WE'RE TAKING A CLOSER LOOK AT WHAT THAT SUBSIDY PER UNIT LEVEL IS. AND SO WE BROUGHT THAT FORWARD WITH THE TABLE ON THE RIGHT AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL BE EXAMINING FURTHER.  WE ALSO HAD OUR FIRST FORMAL YEAR OF OUR COMPLIANCE PROGRAM SO WE STARTED THAT PROGRAM UP THIS YEAR BESIDES THE 12 ACTIVE LIFE TYPE PROJECTS LOW INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDIT PROJECTS BLOOMINGTON WHICH TAKE CARE THEIR COMPLIANCE IS CONDUCTED THROUGH MINNESOTA HOUSING. SO BESIDES THOSE PROJECTS WE DID OUTREACH ALL OF THE PROJECTS THAT WERE DEVELOPED THE LHO AND WORKED WITH THEM TO GET COMPLIANCE.  SO IN SOME CASES THERE WERE DEVELOPMENTS THAT  NEEDED SOME ADDITIONAL ASSISTANCE PROVIDED THROUGH TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE FROM BLOOMINGTON STAFF TO GET TO A STATE OF COMPLIANCE AND IN ONE CASE THERE WAS A PROPERTY THAT WE REQUIRED TO GIVE BACK PAID TO RESIDENTS THAT WERE CHARGED RENTS FEES THAT WEREN'T IN ACCORDANCE WITH THEIR AGREEMENTS. SO THAT DID TAKE PLACE IN 2023 AND WE ALSO ADDITIONAL TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE TO SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT RECENTLY OPENED AND FOUND GREAT RESULTS THERE. SO ONE THING THAT WILL BE CONSIDERING GOING FORWARD IS IF A PARTNERSHIP WITH AN EXTERNAL PARTNER TO CONDUCT SOME OF THE COMPLIANCE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE WOULD BE APPROPRIATE AND THAT IS DEMONSTRATED SOME OF THE OUR PEER COMMUNITIES WHO HAVE THAT TYPE OF EXTERNAL PARTNERSHIP AND IT ALLOWS FOR A MORE UNIFORM APPLICATION OF THE ELIGIBILITY QUALIFICATION PROCESS. SO NEXT I'LL TOUCH ON THE HOUSING NEXUS STUDY. THIS IS AN ITEM THAT I BROUGHT BEFORE YOU BEFORE AND I'M HAPPY TO SAY THAT THE MET COUNCIL AWARDED THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON $45,000 TO FUND A RENEWED HOUSING ACCESS STUDY AND WE'RE CURRENTLY FINALIZING THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL TO BE RELEASED HOPEFULLY IN SEPTEMBER.  AND TO GET RESULTS OF THAT STUDY LATER THIS YEAR AND THEN IMPLEMENT THOSE CHANGES AND WHAT WE WILL SPECIFICALLY BE AT ARE REEVALUATING THE REQUIREMENT THAT THE LHO IMPOSES ON DEVELOPERS. SO THAT'S THAT 9% AT 60% AND I WILL ALSO BE LOOKING AT THE IN THE FEE AND LIEU RATE WHICH IS CURRENTLY $9.60 PER SQUARE FOOT. AND THEN WE HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL STUDY QUESTIONS THAT WE MAY WORK WITH A EXTERNAL CONSULTANT TO LOOK INTO. AND THEN I ALSO WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT SOME STUDY THAT STAFF WILL BE UNDERTAKING. I'LL JUST THESE OUT FOR YOU TO LOOK AT BUT THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WITH REGARDS TO THE LHO. AND THEN AS THIS IS OUR TABLE OF PROJECTS THAT ARE COUNTING TOWARD OUR COUNCIL HOUSING NEED ALLOCATION GOALS.  SO THAT'S THE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT THE MET COUNCIL HAS THE BLOOMINGTON SHOULD PROVIDE TO REACH OUR NEED FOR NEWLY DEVELOPED AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THAT'S BETWEEN 2021 AND 2030. AND SO WE'VE GOT GREAT NEWS TO HIGHLIGHT WHICH IS THAT WE HAVE EXCEEDED OUR GOAL WITH REGARDS TO 60% PRODUCTION OF 60% OF MY UNITS. AND IF ALL OF OUR 700 MILLION BOULEVARD'S SPECIFICALLY PRECEDES TO CONSTRUCTION AND COMPLETION, WE'LL HAVE ACHIEVED OUR GOALS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF 50% UNITS. BUT I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT OF COURSE WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO. FOR 30% OF MY UNITS BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT WE'RE CLOSING IN ON GOAL FOR OVERALL AFFORDABLE UNIT PRODUCTION. SO WE'VE PRODUCED WE'VE CONSTRUCTED HAVE UNDER OR HAVE APPROVED 693 UNITS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING TOWARD OUR GOAL OF 842 BY 2030. SO WE'RE DOING GREAT.  AND THEN JUST WANTED TO ZIP THROUGH SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENT UPDATES THAT HAVE OCCURRED IN THE LAST YEAR. SO WE'VE SEEN THE COMPLETION OF FOUR BUILDING CARBON 31 RISER NOBLE APARTMENTS AND UXBRIDGE HEIGHTS. CURRENTLY THERE ARE THREE DEVELOPMENTS UNDER CONSTRUCTION SO 6701 WAS 78TH STREET IS DOING GROUND WORK CURRENTLY AND THEY'VE JUST GOT WORD THAT THEY'LL BE COMPLETING THE ASBESTOS WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK OR TWO. SO THAT'S GREAT NEWS . 18 ON AMERICAN BOULEVARD WEST HAS COME QUITE A WAYS ALREADY WITH THEIR CONSTRUCTION AND THEN THE ARTER IS NEARING COMPLETION. AND AS I MENTIONED WE WERE HOPING THAT SOMEONE CAN BREAK GROUND SOON HERE. SO THAT IS THE UPDATE REPORT.  THANK YOU MR. NIEMEYER. KINDS OF QUESTIONS COUNCILMEMBER THANK YOU MAYOR . THANKS FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT. YOU HAD THE SLIDE UP WITH THE INCENTIVES AND THERE WERE THREE THAT WEREN'T USED. HAVE WE GOTTEN ANY FEEDBACK FROM DEVELOPERS ON WHY THOSE THREE IN PARTICULAR AREN'T BEING USED?  THANK YOU MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER COUNCILMEMBER THERE.  WITH REGARDS TO THE FLOOR AREA RATIO SO THAT'S THE INCENTIVE ON THE FURTHEST RATE WHAT I'VE HEARD IS THAT THERE'S A CURIOUS INTERACTION BETWEEN THE DENSITY BONUS INCENTIVE WHICH YOU CAN SEE HAS BEEN UTILIZED WHERE IF YOU GET ONE IT DISINCENTIVE IT KIND OF DISINCENTIVES THE THE USE THE RELEVANCE THE OTHER. SO THEY'RE THEY'RE ALMOST DUPLICATING EFFORTS SO SO FAR WE'VE JUST SEEN UTILIZATION OF THE DENSITY BONUS FOR DEVELOPMENT FEE DEFERMENTS AND LANDSCAPE FEE IN LIEU REDUCTION FOR BOTH FOR BOTH OF THOSE INCENTIVES. ONE OF THE ISSUES IS FUNDING.  SO I MENTIONED BEFORE OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING TRUST FUND HAS BEEN EXPENDED. IT'S BEEN ALLOCATED TO PROJECTS. THERE HASN'T A DIFFERENT SOURCE OF FUNDING IDENTIFIED THAT WOULD PAY FOR THESE SPECIFIC INCENTIVES. SO THAT'S BEEN ONGOING WORK. YOU CAN SEE ONE OF THE OTHER INCENTIVES THE DEVELOPMENT FEE REIMBURSEMENT THAT WAS INCENTIVE THAT WE WERE ABLE TO FUND. I BELIEVE WAS THE LYNDALE FLATS DEVELOPMENT. SO FOR THE THREE THAT HAVEN'T BEEN USED THERE ARE BUDGETARY REASONS AS WELL AS THIS KIND OF DUPLICATION OF EFFORTS BECAUSE OF ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS THIS IS VERY GOOD INFORMATION AND I AGREE THIS IS THIS IS FEATHER IN THE CAP OF THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON IN TERMS OF THE WORK THAT WAS DONE ORIGINALLY TO PULL THIS ALL TOGETHER AND HOW IT'S BEEN IMPLEMENTED NOW IS IS VERY IMPRESSIVE. I'VE SAID BEFORE A OF TIMES YOU KNOW YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING RIGHT WHEN OTHER CITIES WANT TO COPY YOU AND.  THERE'S A LOT OF CITIES I THINK THAT ARE LOOKING THEY'RE LOOKING AT THIS AS THE TEMPLATE FOR IN THEIR AFFORDABLE AND OPPORTUNITY HOUSING MARKET WITHIN THEIR CITIES AND SO I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE ON THIS AND THE THOUGHT,  CREATIVITY AND FLEXIBILITY THAT HAVE GONE INTO BECAUSE THAT'S OBVIOUSLY AN IMPORTANT OF IT AND I THINK AND OBVIOUSLY AN IMPORTANT NEED BECAUSE WE HEARING AND WE KEEP SEEING AND IT'S PLAYING OUT ACROSS THE STATE AFFORDABLE AND OPPORTUNITY HOUSING IS NOT PLUG AND PLAY IT DOESN'T WORK THE SAME EVERYWHERE. IT'S GOT TO BE SPECIFIC TO THE COMMUNITY THAT IT'S IN AND IT TAKES I THINK A COMMITMENT BY THE CITY INVOLVED AND THE DEVELOPERS AND AGENCIES AND THE STATE AND SO I THINK IT JUST TAKES THE COMMITMENT OF A LOT OF FOLKS TO MAKE IT ALL WORK AND SO WE GOT A LOT TO BE PROUD OF WITH THIS IN BLOOMINGTON AND THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING HERE IN BLOOMINGTON AND A LOT TO BE PROUD OF AS A COUNCIL FOR THE WORK THAT WE'VE PUT INTO THIS AND THANKFUL FOR THE COUNCIL'S BEFORE US WHO MADE SURE THIS HAPPENED AND KIND OF LAID THE FOUNDATION THAT WE COULD GET THIS WORK DONE. SO COUNCILMEMBER WOMAN NO. MAYOR THANK YOU FOR THOSE WORDS.  YOU KNOW, I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT WILL ACHIEVE THOSE THOSE GOALS. MY QUESTION IS WHAT'S NEXT? YOU KNOW, NOW THAT WE'VE SET THE GOLD STANDARD, YOU KNOW, FOR FOR THIS TYPE OF WORK,  WHERE DO WE ALWAYS GET TO NEXT ? MAYOR COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER A THAT'S KIND OF AN EXCITING QUESTION.  I DON'T WANT TO RUN AWAY WITH IT BUT I THINK I'LL HIGHLIGHT SOME OF OUR ADDITIONAL TO LOOK AT. SO I KNOW I'VE HEARD FROM THE COUNCIL FROM YOU ALL THAT WE WANT TO GET MORE INVOLVED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AFFORDABLE HOMEOWNERSHIP. SO I THINK WE'RE REALLY LOOKING TO SEE IS A WAY THAT WE CAN RETOOL SOME OF THE SOME OF THE WAY THAT THE HOME IS STRUCTURED TO SPECIFICALLY BENEFIT THOSE HOME OWNERSHIP PROJECTS.  OR IS THERE A WAY WE CAN UTILIZE FUNDING SOURCES THAT THE CITY HASN'T ENGAGED WITH YET TO DATE THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO FACILITATE SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS?  SO THAT'S SOME OF THE INTERNAL WORK THAT WE'RE WANTING EMBARK ON.  BUT YEAH, I'VE JUST BEEN QUITE QUITE WITH THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE AT A REGIONAL LEVEL WITH REGARDS TO HOUSING YOU'RE PROBABLY AWARE IMAGINE 2050 THAT COUNCIL IS ALL THAT WORK OUT. SO I KNOW I MEAN I JUST READ IT RECREATION LIKE SO THAT'S IT. I DON'T MEAN TO BE NEGATIVE ABOUT IT BUT ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE NOW IS THAT WITH THAT $15 MILLION THAT YOU WOULD ORIGINALLY CONTRIBUTED TO THIS PROGRAM, THAT'S WHAT IT ALLOWED THE CITY GET TO WHERE YOU'RE AT AND THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY TO GET TO THESE NUMBERS. SO WE GOT TO KEEP THINKING ABOUT WHERE THE MONEY IS COMING FROM TO KEEP SUPPORTING THIS PART, THIS PROGRAM.  THANK YOU FOR I THANK YOU FOR THAT AND I KNOW THERE'S A COUPLE FOLKS THAT ARE ON THE HRA AND THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE ON THE REPORT ARE HELPING US TO DO SOME OF THE THINGS YOU TALKED ABOUT AND ONE IS ALWAYS IN SHORT SUPPLY BUT I'LL CERTAINLY REMEMBER THAT A CHAMPION OF OF GETTING THOSE DOLLARS AND RESOURCES OUT THERE SO ANY CREATIVE THOUGHTS ON TRANSIT OPTIONS BETWEEN SAINT PAUL AND THE MALL OF AMERICA AND SO I'M I'M SORRY TOO SOON TO SAY.  COUNCIL ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.  WELL THANK YOU THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE. I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU.  COUNCIL OUR LAST ITEM OF THE EVENING AS ALWAYS IS ITEM 5.2. OUR COUNCIL POLICY AND ISSUE UPDATES. I WILL KICK IT OFF HERE WITH COUPLE OF THINGS. FIRST OF ALL, A REVIEW OF OUR CITY COUNCIL LISTENING.  WE HEARD FROM FOUR SPEAKERS THIS EVENING. WE HEARD FROM SALLY NESS. SHE QUESTIONS ABOUT LIGHTING AND PARKING AT 82 ONE PARK AVENUE. WE HEARD FROM MICHELLE LOYD REPRESENTING RESTORE THE NINE . SHE PRESENTED TO THE COUNCIL A POSITION STATEMENT AND A PRETTY THICK AND SIZABLE POSITION STATEMENT FROM THE ORGANIZATION REGARDING NINE MILE CREEK RESTORATION WHAT THEY HOPE TO SEE AS PART OF THE RESTORATION.  SO IT IS A FORMALIZED POSITION STATEMENT BY THE ORGANIZATION . MARY GANNON I WANTED TO WE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE NEW HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER PROJECT AND SPECIFICALLY SHE SPOKE ON BEHALF OF THE BOUTIQUE THAT CURRENTLY IN PLACE AT CREEKSIDE AND HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT WHETHER AND HOW IT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE NEW HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER. OBVIOUSLY NOT.  WE HAVEN'T MADE FINAL DECISIONS AT ALL ON THE NEW HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER. THERE ARE CERTAINLY THINGS TO CONSIDER FOR EVERYTHING IN TERMS WHAT'S GOING IN THERE, WHAT THE SPACE WILL BE, HOW IT'S ALL GOING TO WORK . BUT THOSE THOSE DECISIONS HAVE NOT BEEN MADE YET. SO I APPRECIATE HER TALKING TO US AND BRINGING FORWARD SOME INTERESTING DETAILS AND INFORMATION THE BOUTIQUE AND THE WORK THAT THEY DO. AND WE HEARD FROM ROBERT COLEMAN WHO HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT THE RIVERVIEW CORRIDOR WHICH WAS THE THE BAD JOKE THAT I JUST MADE. I WAS REFERENCING THE RIVERVIEW CORRIDOR, AS WE ALL KNOW WAS A LONG TERM PROJECT BY RAMSEY COUNTY TO CONNECT DOWNTOWN SAINT PAUL TO, THE AIRPORT AND ULTIMATELY MALL OF AMERICA WITH EITHER A MODERN STREETCAR, A BUS RAPID TRANSIT SYSTEM. AND JUST THIS PAST WEEK THE COMMISSIONER THE RAMSEY COUNTY COMMISSIONER WORKING ON IT RAFAEL ORTEGA MADE THE DECISION TO WITHDRAW THE RAMSEY COUNTY SUPPORT THE PROJECT BOTH FINANCIAL AND STAFF AND TIME SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT JUST BECAUSE HE FELT THERE WAS AN OVERALL SUPPORT FOR THE PROJECT AND DIDN'T WANT TO CONTINUE TO COMMIT RESOURCES FROM RAMSEY COUNTY TO SOMETHING THAT HE DIDN'T THINK HAD THE SUPPORT TO MOVE FORWARD. SO IT'S DISAPPOINTING BECAUSE AS I AS I SAID TO ALL OF YOU HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THAT ONE FOR MORE THAN A DECADE NOW AND SO THAT'S ONE THING NOW OFF MY LIST OF THE COMMITMENTS THAT I HAD. SO GOODNESS ONLY KNOWS WHAT I'LL DO WITH ALL THE TIME THAT I HAVE NOW AND BUT IT'S THEY DID LEAVE THE DOOR OPEN IF THINGS SHOULD CHANGE IN THE FUTURE THAT THEY WOULD RESTART THE CONVERSATION AS TO WHAT MIGHT WORK BEST FOR THE RIVERVIEW CORRIDOR.  THE SECOND THING THAT I WANTED TO BRING UP WAS RELATED TO ITEM WHAT WAS IT 3.3.7 THE THE PARKING GO INTERIM USE PERMIT WE MOVE THAT FORWARD AND AND WHAT I MENTIONED AND I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS WE'VE GOT A LOT GOING ON IN TERMS WHAT OFFSITE AIRPORT PARKING MEANS IN CITY OF BLOOMINGTON RIGHT NOW. AND WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS DIRECT STAFF TO TO TO LOOK AT THOSE ISSUES AND KIND OF DIG IN REVIEW THOSE ISSUES CONTINUE WORKING WITH PARKING GO BECAUSE AS WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT A NUMBER OF TIMES THAT THEY WERE TRYING TO GET TO COMPLIANCE WE TRIED TO GET TO YES AND THE WORK THAT WE DO SORT OF CONTINUE TO WORK WITH OUR FOLKS WHO PARKING AND BRING THAT TO THE COUNCIL IN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO. SOME IDEAS AND SOME OPTIONS AND POSSIBILITIES ABOUT WHAT DIRECTION WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO TAKE AND I THINK THAT'S THE WAY TO GO RIGHT NOW JUST BECAUSE WE AS I SAID, THERE'S JUST A LOT OF ISSUES FLOATING AROUND ABOUT THIS ISSUE OF OFFSITE AIRPORT PARKING IN BLOOMINGTON AND.  I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T DO THIS PIECEMEAL. I'D RATHER DO IT VERY CAREFULLY, THOUGHTFULLY AND WITH A WITH A LOOK AT THE ENTIRE SOUTH LOOP AND THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT WE HAVE THERE THAT IT MAKES SENSE. AND SO IF I CAN GET THE NODDING HEADS NECESSARY, I'D LIKE TO DIRECT STAFF TO TO DO DO A BIT OF ON THAT AND BRING BACK SOME OPTIONS TO US IN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO. COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO.  THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION. WHEN YOU MENTIONED DIRECTING STAFF TO DO THAT. WHAT STAFF ARE WE TALKING ABOUT AND WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO STOP DOING IN ORDER TO DO THIS? I JUST I KNOW WE'RE AT THE END AND WE HAVE WORK PLANS LIGHT AND I JUST WANT TO BE SURE WE ARE NOT PILING ON A LITTLE BIT AT THE END ALTHOUGH I COMPLETELY AGREE THAT THE INFORMATION IS IMPORTANT. COUNCILMEMBER A GOOD QUESTION. MR. BERBERABE MR. MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO, I DO APPRECIATE YOU ASKING THAT QUESTION AND WILL INCLUDE WHATEVER WE COME UP WITH OR WHATEVER WE BRING BACK TO THE COUNCIL. WE'LL HAVE AN OUTLINE OF WHAT WE EXPECT IN TERMS OF TIME AND AND INTENSITY JUST TO GIVE US DAPHNA OR COUNCIL AN IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE. SO SO CITY SAID ANOTHER WAY IF I MAY YOU HAVE ENOUGH YOU HAVE ENOUGH STAFF TIME TO COME UP WITH A HIGH LEVEL PLAN YOU JUST AND THAT HIGH LEVEL PLAN INCLUDE THE DETAILS ON WHAT KIND OF STAFF EXPECTATION THERE IS.  YEAH MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO WE'VE ALREADY STARTED TALKING AMONG STAFF OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS ABOUT SOME OPTIONS SO WE ALREADY HAVE SOME IDEAS BUT WE JUST NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO COALESCE.  MM HMM. COUNCILMEMBER SO JUST SOME LOGISTICAL QUESTIONS I WANT TO ASK JUST SO YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF YEAH.  IN TERMS OF THE BUSINESS THAT'S EXISTING THERE HOW LONG MIGHT THIS TAKE TO KIND OF GET THIS RESOLVED OR TO WE GET TO A POLICY AROUND THIS? IS THERE A THERE A TIME HORIZON THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR THIS?  AND THEN WHAT ARE THE IMPLICATIONS FOR THE EXISTING BUSINESS GIVEN WHAT WE DID EARLIER TODAY IN TERMS OF YOU KNOW WHAT, WILL THAT MEAN FOR THAT BUSINESS? I THINK I THINK THE ANSWER THERE COUNCILMEMBER IS TBD. I'D LIKE STAFF TAKE A LOOK AT THINGS AND FIGURE OUT EXACTLY HOW IT'S ALL GOING TO WORK AND DON'T WANT TO SAY ANYTHING HERE THAT MIGHT BE THAT MAY THROW THINGS YOU KNOW MONKEY WRENCH INTO THINGS. I'D RATHER LET STAFF DO THEIR WORK AND COME BACK WITH SOME OPTIONS FOR US HERE WERE GETTING SOME SOME OF THOSE INITIAL QUESTIONS MAY BE ANSWERED MAYBE NEXT MEETING I WOULDN'T SAY NEXT MEETING I WOULD SAY YOU KNOW I HEARD THE MAYOR SAY WITHIN THE MONTH COUNCILMEMBERS AND WE DO KNOW THAT YOU KNOW, WITH THE ACTION THAT THE COUNCIL TOOK TONIGHT THERE'S AN OCTOBER DEADLINE ESSENTIALLY.  AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE WE SPENT A LOT TIME TONIGHT TALKING ON A NUMBER OF ISSUES ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WANTING TO BRING FOLKS INTO COMPLIANCE RIGHT. AND I DON'T THINK THAT WE WANT TO BE IN A POSITION WHERE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE KNOWINGLY NOT IN COMPLIANCE. AND SO THINK WE'LL WHAT WE WILL DO IS COME BACK TO YOU WITHIN THE TIMELINE SO THAT WE CAN TRY TO KEEP THAT FROM HAPPENING.  THAT'S MY THAT'S MY CONCERN THAT WE FIGURE THAT OUT. THANK YOU.  VERY GOOD. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ON THAT?  ALL RIGHT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. MR. RUDY OF ANYTHING TO ADD TO OUR POLICY AND ISSUE UPDATE WE DO NOT MAYOR THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYTHING TO BRING FORWARD COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO.  THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I DID HAVE ONE THING VERY RECENTLY.  WE'VE ALL I THINK WE'VE ALL LEARNED AS VOTERS THAT THERE WILL BE BALLOT QUESTION FOR THE STATE REGARDING THE RENEWAL OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL AND NATURAL LOTTERY FUND THINGAMAJIG. I IT'S OFFICIALLY A TRUST FUND RENEWAL PROJECT RATE IS WHAT IT'S CALLED.  THERE ARE A NUMBER OF CITIES THAT ARE LEVERAGING THEIR SUPPORT SORRY INDICATING THEIR SUPPORT FOR THAT RENEWAL. I DIDN'T I TOOK TWO QUESTIONS CAME TO MIND. ONE, ARE WE ARE WE GOING TO BE DOING AS PART OF ALL THE EDUCATION WE'RE DOING ABOUT OUR OWN BUDGET, YOU KNOW, BALLOT INITIATIVE AS WELL AS WHAT'S ON THE BALLOT IN NOVEMBER AND EVERYTHING? ARE WE GOING TO HAVE ANY EDUCATION OFFERED TO FOLKS ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR ITEM? AND TWO, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S APPROPRIATE OR NOT. I CAN TELL YOU LIKE FOR EXAMPLE THE CITY OF ELK RIVER I THINK IN THE CITY OF RICHFIELD HAVE SIGNED ON TO OFFICIALLY SUPPORT ITS RENEWAL . I DIDN'T KNOW IF WE WERE ALLOWED TO DO THAT OR NOT BUT I CERTAINLY BE VOTING FOR IT MYSELF AS AN INDIVIDUAL. BUT I WANTED TO JUST AS IT IS IN ALIGNMENT WITH OUR SUSTAINABILITY GOALS AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO HAVE OUR NATURAL RESOURCES FUNDED AND IT DOES DO GREAT WORK.  IF WE WANTED TO CONSIDER THAT AS A OFFICIAL ACT OF THE CITY TO SUPPORT THAT I CAN'T SEE THAT IT WOULD BE OUT OF LINE WITH THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING OR THE WORK THAT WE WOULD SUPPORT THROUGH NOT ONLY THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION BUT THE CITY JUST IN GENERAL.  YEAH, I WOULD APPRECIATE IF YOU HAVE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT HOW TO OR YOU KNOW THE THE MECHANICS HAVING THE CITY SIGN ON AND SAYING YES WE WANT TO BE PART OF THIS IF YOU COULD SHARE IT WITH WITH OUR CITY MANAGER AND WE COULD WE COULD INCLUDE IT IN THE PTW AND FIGURE THIS OUT. SURE. THERE'S LIKE A FRIENDS OF THE THING KIND OF STUFF GROWING RIGHT AND IT'S INCREASING IN IT'S IN IT'S SUPPORT AND IT'S PRETTY AMAZING HOW THIS DIVERSE THAT SUPPORT IS. YOU KNOW YOU'VE GOT YOUR PHEASANT PEOPLE IN YOUR YOU KNOW, SIERRA CLUB AND YOU'RE YOU KNOW, LIKE THIS RURAL CITY AND YOU KNOW, URBAN CITY. SO YOU KNOW, THERE SEEMS TO BE A BROAD COALITION.  SO YES, I CAN PASS THAT ALONG TO TO STAFF IF.  THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO. AND THEN THE QUESTION WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, WHAT KIND OF EDUCATION CAN  WE DO IN SUPPORT NOW? I MEAN IF WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE A POSITION FROM AN EDUCATION FOR THE BALLOT, JUST WANTED TO PUT IT ON THE RADAR FOR THE CITY CLERK THAT WE ARE DOING SOMETHING AROUND THAT IF WE NEED TO AMONG ALL THE OTHER THINGS WE'RE DOING THIS FOR THE ELECTION IN NOVEMBER. MM HMM. THANK, MR. MAYOR. COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO D'ALESSANDRO WE'LL TAKE A QUICK LOOK AT AND STAFF LEVEL AND GET SOMETHING BACK TO COUNCIL RELATIVELY SOON.  AND THE REASON IS THAT EARLY VOTING STARTS SEPTEMBER 20TH, RIGHT? SO THAT'S JUST A WEEK FROM THIS COMING.  SO ANY EXPECTATION ABOUT WHETHER WE COULD INFORMATION INTO A BRIEFING WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE TIME TO MEET THOSE DEADLINES BUT WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND THEN HAVE A FOLLOW UP CONVERSATION WITH COUNCIL AND MAYBE UNDERSTAND BETTER WHAT YOUR OWN EXPECTATIONS MAY BE IN TERMS OF HOW HOW MUCH THE CITY LEANS INTO IT.  THANK YOU THANK COUNCILMEMBER COUNCILMEMBER NELSON.  YEAH, THANKS, MAYOR. I JUST WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO REQUEST COMMENT BECAUSE WHEN I WAS LOOKING THAT AMENDMENT OR BALLOT INITIATIVE OR WHATEVER IT IS THAT IT LOOKED LIKE SOME OF THE LANGUAGE CHANGED PARTICULARLY REGARDING CLEAN WATER TO INCLUDE DRINKING WATER AND PUBLIC UTILITIES.  AND SO I GUESS I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS IS WHAT IMPACT THAT HAVE FOR THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AND TO THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON EVER GOT ANY MONEY FROM THIS FUND?  JUST A CURIOSITY THING SO AND I DON'T EXPECT ANSWERS NOW TONIGHT. OKAY. SO JUST AS I WAS THINKING IT THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. AND IF I MAY, MR. MAYOR, I DO KNOW THAT THE THREE RIVERS PARKS DISTRICT GETS MONEY FROM THIS FUND SO.  BLOOMINGTON GETS MONEY. BUT THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON I DON'T KNOW. YEAH, YEAH. GOOD QUESTION FROM MR. ROY.  YOU'LL GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT ONE. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS COUNCIL AND WE HAVE WE HAVE COMPLETED OUR AGENDA COUNCIL NO FURTHER TONIGHT I WOULD ENTERTAIN THE MOTION TO ADJOURN SO MOVE MOTION IN A SECOND TO ADJOURN NO FURTHER DISCUSSION ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I ALWAYS MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO THANK YOU MUCH FOR THE DISCUSSION THIS EVENING COUNCIL THANKS TO EVERYBODY WHO PARTICIPATED IN OUR MEETING THANKS TO STAFF FOR THE WORK THAT YOU DID AND EVERYBODY HAVE A GREAT REST OF YOUR WEEK THANK YOU MUCH