##VIDEO ID:YUqNi8Hm0io## ? GOOD EVENING EVERYONE AND WELCOME I WILL CALL THE BLOOMINGTON CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER THIS EVENING. IT IS MONDAY SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2024.  THANKS TO EVERYBODY WHO IS HERE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS WITH US. THANKS TO EVERYONE WATCHING ONLINE. WE WILL BEGIN OUR MEETING AS WE ALWAYS DO IF YOU'RE ABLE IF YOU COULD PLEASE STAND REMOVE YOUR CAPS AND JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL .  ONCE AGAIN, THANKS TO EVERYBODY FOR JOINING US THIS EVENING.  FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS COUNCIL IS THE APPROVAL OF OUR AGENDA AND IT IS A MEDIA ONE TONIGHT WE HAVE UNDER OUR INTRODUCTORY  WE HAVE THREE ITEMS WE ARE GOING TO DO AN INTRODUCTION OF EMPLOYEES AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THEM TONIGHT ITEM 2.2 WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN UPDATE BY SHERIFF WHITT FROM HENNEPIN COUNTY WHO IS HERE WITH THIS EVENING. WELCOME. THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO HEAR AN UPDATE OUR NEWEST BLOOMINGTON NONPROFIT BLOOMINGTON PRIDE AND A RECAP OF LAST WEEKEND'S VERY SUCCESSFUL PRIDE CELEBRATION OUR CONSENT BUSINESS 20 ITEMS LONG AND COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS HAS OUR CONSENT AGENDA EVENING AND ITEM FOR HEARINGS RESOLUTIONS AND ORDINANCES WE HAVE FIVE ITEMS UNDER ITEM FOUR AND COUNCIL WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO ITEM 4.1 IS A TIMELINE AND THAT'S A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING ISSUANCE SALE OF TAXABLE SALES AND TAX REVENUE BONDS SERIES 2024 B AND BECAUSE THAT'S A TIMED ITEM I MOVE THAT RIGHT UP AFTER ITEM 2.3 BEFORE WE GET INTO CONSENT BUSINESS JUST FOR FOLKS WHO ARE WONDERING SOMETIMES WHEN WE HAVE TIME ITEMS WE MOVE THEM UP IN THE AGENDA PRIMARILY BECAUSE THE TIME ITEMS OFTEN THAN NOT INCLUDE CONSULTANTS AND WE DON'T WANT TO BE HANGING AROUND WHILE WE DO OTHER BUSINESS.  WE WANT TO WE WANT THEMO GET THE REPORT OFF AND GET OFF THE CLOCK AS QUICKLY AS WE POSSIBLY CAN. ALSO UNDER HEARINGS RESOLUTIONS AND ORDINANCES WE'VE GOT THEM FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS ITEM 4.2 IS A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING THE REZONING OF SOUTH K-8 APARTMENTS AT 8187 12TH AVENUE SOUTH AND 1001 AND 1101 EAST 80TH STREET ITEM POINT THREE IS A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING CITY CODE AMENDMENTS OUR CANNABIS BUSINESS ZONING PROVISIONS ITEM 4.4 IS A PUBLIC HEARING OR A MORATORIUM REGARDING AIRPORT PARKING FACILITY AND ITEM 4.5 IS A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE SOUTH TOWN PARTIAL REDEVELOPING AND THAT OF COURSE IS AT 7801 PEN AVENUE SOUTH UNDERWRITING FIVE ORGANIZATIONAL BUSINESS. WE WILL BE DOING SOME APPOINTMENTS TO OUR I-35W SOLUTIONS ALLIANCE AND U.S. 169 CORRIDOR COALITION. WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF STAFF VACANCIES THERE THAT WILL BE FILLING AND WE WILL START OUR FIRST IN-DEPTH BUDGET DISCUSSION THIS WEEK WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND OUR STRATEGIC PRIORITIES FUND UNDER ITEM 5.2 UNDER THAT BUDGET DISCUSSION WRAP UP AS WE ALWAYS DO WITH ITEM 5.3 OUR CITY COUNCIL POLICY ISSUE UPDATE I'LL TELL YOU JUST SEEING ALL THAT COUNCIL AND SO AS WE GET INTO THIS I WOULD STRONGLY ENCOURAGE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS KEEP THEM CONCISE AND ON POINT OTHERWISE WE ARE GOING TO SEE OCTOBER ARRIVE BEFORE WE GET OUT OF HERE SO LET'S MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE WE STAY ON POINT AND WE GET THE WORK DONE THAT WE NEED TO GET DONE TONIGHT. OKAY I WANT TO SEE FIVE NODDING HEADS OVER THERE IN AGREEMENT. VERY GOOD COUNSEL IF THERE ARE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THE AGENDA I'D LIKE TO HEAR THEM NOW. IF NOT WILL MOVE AGENDA I WILL MOVE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA AS STATED SECOND MOTION AND THE SECOND TO ACCEPT TONIGHT'S AGENDA STATED NO MORE COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRY SIX ZERO COUNCILMEMBER NELSON HAS MADE IT TO THE DAIS YET DAIS YET I KNOW HE'S HERE WE SAW HIM IN THE BUILDING EARLIER. HE MUST BE TIED UP WITH SOMETHING ELSE AND TALKING TO SOMEONE I THINK WAS HAVING CONVERSATIONS AFTER OUR LISTENING SESSION WITH THAT WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR AGENDA. ITEM 2.1 IS YOUR INTRODUCTION OF NEW EMPLOYEES AND AS I SAID WE'VE GOT A NUMBER OF THEM AND WE'VE GOT FOLKS FROM ENGINEERING, MAINTENANCE AND UTILITIES WHO DREW THE SHORT STRAW AND GETS TO GO FIRST. THEY'RE GOING TO JULIE LONG.  GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME. GOOD EVENING MR. MAYOR. COUNCIL I DREW THE TALL STRAW BECAUSE I'M GOING TO BE VERY SHORT AND QUICK BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF NEW EMPLOYEES . I HAVE THE PLEASURE OF INTRODUCING NEW EMPLOYEES IN ENGINEERING.  THREE OF THEM ARE KIND OF ALREADY QUASI BLOOMINGTON EMPLOYEES THAT EITHER WE'VE STOLEN THEM FROM OUR UTILITY DIVISION OR THEY WERE PART TIME EMPLOYEES THAT WE WERE ABLE TO MAKE FULL TIME AND.  SO WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE OUR THREE UTILITY SERVICE SPECIALISTS. THEY'RE THE ONES WHO ARE HELPING TO ALL OF OUR RIGHT OF WAY. AND HOPEFULLY YOU'VE SEEN SOME IMPROVEMENTS OF THE FIBER MANAGEMENT AS WE'VE GONE NOW THAT WE HAVE THE FULL STAFF, FULL TIME STAFF. SO I'LL START WITH ROGER EDSTROM. AS I SAID TOLD HIM FROM UTILITIES HE HAS EXPERIENCE IN BOTH THE WATER PLANT AND ACROSS THE HALL IN UTILITIES.  I KNOW NORMALLY YOU LIKE TO SPEAK WITH THE MAYOR BUT DO YOU WANT TO SKIP THAT TO MAKE IN THE INTEREST OF TIME IF THAT WOULD BE WITH FOLKS WE CAN KEEP MOVING THINGS MOVING ON. I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S BEING HERE BUT I THINK IN THE INTEREST OF TIME IF WE CAN JUST INTRODUCE THEM AND MOVE ON THAT'D BE GREAT. EXCELLENT.  THE NEXT ONE IS HUNTER CALZADILLA. HE IS ALSO ONE THAT WE BORROWED FROM UTILITIES. HE WAS A UTILITY LOCATER FOR OUR STAFF AND FUN FACT ABOUT HUNTER IS HIS GRANDPARENTS HAVE THE OLD FARMHOUSE ON PENNANT 94TH SO EVERY TIME HE COMES TO WORK HE GETS TO SEE WHERE GRANDPARENTS LIVED. JOHN JAMES CHRISTIANSEN ALSO WAS A UTILITY LOCATOR BUT FOR PRIVATE COMPANY SO HE COMES WITH GOOD EXPERIENCE AND HE LIVES IN BLOOMINGTON SO WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO HAVE ALL THREE OF THEM HELPING US MANAGE THE FIBER OPTIC IN THE RIGHT OF WAY ALONG WITH THE OTHER GAS ELECTRIC AND OTHER RIGHT AWAY MANAGEMENT TASKS. AND MY LAST BUT NOT LEAST IS SERENA IS BACK. SHE HAS THREE PUMPS OR SHE HAS TWO POMERANIANS NOT THREE. BUT I GAVE YOU AN EXTRA DOG THERE AND SHE WORKS HAS WORKED PART TIME FOR US AND ORIGINALLY CAME FROM INVER GROVE HEIGHTS THEY ARE COMMUNICATIONS STAFF SO SHE HELPS US COMMUNICATE EFFECTIVELY BECAUSE YOU KNOW ENGINEERS AREN'T ALWAYS VERY OD AT THAT.  WELL, WELCOME TO THE FOUR OF YOU. THANK YOU.  YOU'VE GOT BIG JOBS AND IMPORTANT JOBS OBVIOUSLY WITHIN THE RIGHT AWAY AND WITHIN THE ENGINEERING DIVISION. SO WELCOME ABOARD. WE'RE GLAD HAVE YOU AND LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU OUT AND ABOUT IN THE CITY. WELCOME.  ALL.  GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE TIM BARRETT THE SUPERINTENDENT.  I HAVE SEVEN INDIVIDUALS IN THE MAINTENANCE SECTION TO INTRODUCE TODAY.  I WILL START WITH CHRIS LAUS. HE IS OUR FACILITIES MANAGER. CHRIS STARTED WITH US A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO. HE HAS 18 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN PUBLIC SAFETY PROJECT MANAGEMENT AND FACILITIES MANAGEMENT. PRIOR TO BLOOMINGTON CHRIS WORKED FOR THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA WHERE HE DID SOME FACILITIES MAINTENANCE. CHRIS IS ALSO BLOOMINGTON RESIDENT AND HE ENJOYS INDUSTRY TIME COACHING HIS KIDS AND RUNNING THEM OR RUNNING THEM AROUND TO MANY ACTIVITIES. SO WELCOME CHRIS.  OUR NEXT ONE IS MIKE CROSS MY COSTS AS A FACILITIES TECHNICIAN HE HAS 20 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE RECENTLY WORKED SHUTTERFLY AND OUTSIDE WORK YOU LOVE SPENDING TIME WITH HIS FAMILY AND GOING TO THE CABIN.  MIKE IS ALSO AN AIR FORCE VETERAN. WELCOME AND I.  OUR NEXT ONE IS MICHAEL AND THE GOSH HE'S OUR FACILITY SERVICE TECHNICIAN AS WELL. MICHAEL HAS 25 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE AND PRIOR TO BLOOMINGTON MICHAEL WORKED FOR MSP AIRPORT AND AS A HVAC TECHNICIAN. IS ORIGINALLY FROM ETHIOPIA AND MOVED TO THE U.S. IN 2006 AND MIKE LIKES TO PLAY AND WATCH SOCCER ALONG WITH SPENDING TIME HIS FAMILY OUTSIDE OF WORK. MICHAEL OUR NEXT IS AARON CASTILLA. HE IS OUR FLEET MANAGER.  AARON HAS OVER 36 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN REPAIR AND MANAGEMENT AND PREVIOUSLY HAS WORKED FOR SCOTT COUNTY. IN HIS FREE TIME HE ENJOYS HUNTING AND FISHING AND SPENDING TIME WITH HIS FAMILY . OUR NEXT IS JACOB ST MARTIN. HE IS OUR FLEET.  HE HAS OVER TEN YEARS OF AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR AND OUTSIDE OF WORK HE ENJOYS HUNTING AND FISHING.  WELCOME TO OUR NEXT SONG. THIS IS RYAN MCDONOUGH. HE IS ONE OF OUR STREET OPERATORS. RYAN HAS OVER FIVE YEARS EXPERIENCE AND ENJOYS PLAYING SOFTBALL, GOLFING, ICE FISHING WHEN.  HE'S NOT PLOWING. AND RYAN IS ALSO A MARINE CORPS VETERAN. WELCOME, RYAN. AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST COOPER WHILE KEN IS ALSO OUR STREET OPERATOR, HE HAS A SEASONAL STREET EMPLOYEE FOR ABOUT A YEAR NOW AND JUST RECENTLY HAS BEEN HIRED AS A FULL TIME OPERATOR. OUTSIDE WORK ENJOYS WEIGHTLIFTING, FISHING AND HANGING OUT WITH FRIENDS.  FABULOUS. WELL, THANKS TO ALL OF YOU. IT'S LIKE A LINE CHANGE IS LIKE SENDING SEVEN GUYS OVER THE BOARDS TO GO OVER. GO TO THE NEXT LINE. WELCOME TO ALL OF YOU. MUCH LIKE ENGINEERING MAINTENANCE IS AN INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT PART OF WHAT WE DO HERE AND FOR A LOT OF FOLKS WHAT THEY JUDGES ON HOW WELL WE PLOW, HOW WELL WE KEEP THE STREETS, HOW WELL WE MAKE SURE THAT ALL IT ALL LOOKS AND RUNS AND SO THANKS FOR THE WORK THAT YOU HAVE DONE. LOOKING FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO WORK WITH YOU IN THE FUTURE. SO WELCOME TO EVERYBODY IN THE MAINTENANCE SHOP  EVENING MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS I'LL INTRODUCE THREE OF OUR NEWEST EMPLOYEES THE UTILITY DIVISION'S UTILITY DIVISION. I'LL START WITH FRANCESC ROSA GORBY TENKO FRANCESCA MOVED TO TWIN CITIES JUST TWO YEARS AGO FROM IOWA AND IS ORIGINALLY FROM DAKOTA.  SHE HAS FAMILY IN COLUMBIA AND 2013 WAS A NATIONAL SWIMMER. SHE ALSO OWNS TWO FAT CATS IS LEARNING TO PLAY THE ALTO SAXOPHONE AND HATES COFFEE . SHE STARTED A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO AT OUR AT OUR FRONT DESK NEXT DAY WE'VE GOT TWO UTILITY MAINTENANCE WORKERS WHO THEY'VE BOTH BEEN HERE A LITTLE OVER SIX MONTHS UNABLE TO ATTEND MONDAY NIGHTS BECAUSE THEY'RE PART OF THEIR TAKING CLASSES AT SAINT PAUL TECHNICAL COLLEGE AS PART OF OUR UTILITIES PATHWAY.  FIRST I HAVE ANDREW MANDOLIN.  ANDREW GREW UP IN SOUTH MINNEAPOLIS AND CURRENTLY LIVES IN SAINT PAUL. HE ENJOYS ACTIVITIES LIKE HUNTING, COOKING BASKETBALL AND BEFORE HE CAME TO BLOOMINGTON HE DID MAINTENANCE AND DELIVERY OF ALL TYPES OF COACH BUSSES AND IS LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING IN BLOOMINGTON WITH US.  WELCOME. AND WE HAVE JEFF YATES JEFF GREW UP IN PLYMOUTH, ENJOYS HUNTING, FISHING AND SPENDING WEEKENDS THE CABIN IN NORTHERN MINNESOTA. HE BEFORE COMING TO BLOOMINGTON WORKED FOR A COMPANY DELIVERING LAWN MAINTENANCE EQUIPMENT, GOLF COURSES AND MUNICIPAL AND RETAIL CUSTOMERS. HE ALSO RAN HIS OWN BUSINESS FOR 12 YEARS AND SO WE'RE EXCITED HAVE JEFF AND HIS NEW SKILLS HERE WITH US AS WELL. WELL, VERY GOOD COMPLIMENTS.  SCOTT, THAT'S SOME IN-DEPTH BACKGROUNDING YOU DO TO FIND OUT SOMEBODY HATES COFFEE . THAT'S PRETTY GOOD. THAT'S THAT'S GOOD WORK. ONE TO THE THREE OF YOU WELCOME IT'S GOOD TO HAVE YOU ON BOARD AND LIKE THE OTHERS LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING YOU OUT ABOUT IN THE CITY SO WELCOME TO YOU FOR ALL OF OUR NEW EMPLOYEES AND I SAY THIS TO EVERY NEW GROUP FOR FOR MOST RESIDENTS OF BLOOMINGTON YOU'RE WHO THEY SEE WHEN THEY THINK ABOUT BLOOMINGTON.  SO APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU DO APPRECIATE THE EFFORT YOU PUT IN AND APPRECIATE YOU KEEPING UP THE HIGH STANDARDS OF THIS OUTSTANDING STAFF THAT WE HAVE HERE IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. WE SET A PRETTY HIGH BAR OVER THE YEARS AND IT'S SO GREAT TO SEE PEOPLE COME ON BOARD AND THEN JUST JUMP RIGHT INTO THAT CULTURE AND CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THE OUTSTANDING AND AND WORK THAT EVERYBODY HAS COME TO EXPECT. SO WELCOME TO ALL OF YOU.  THANK YOU FOR JOINING US HERE IN BLOOMINGTON. THANKS FOR BEING WITH THIS EVENING.  IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU. THANKS SO MUCH, ADAM.  2.2 ON OUR AGENDA WE HAVE WITH US ARE HENNEPIN COUNTY SHERIFF WE WANT TO WITH IS WITH THIS EVENING ELECTED TWO YEARS AGO IT DOES SEEM THAT IT DOES IT BE TWO YEARS IN JANUARY VERY GOOD TWO YEARS IN JANUARY AND I'VE TAKEN YES AND APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO COME AND TALK TO US THIS EVENING AND I THINK FOR THE FIRST TIME IN FRONT OF THE BLOOMINGTON CITY COUNCIL SO WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE YOU. YES, IT IS. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. I APPRECIATE IT.  GOOD EVENING. SO I AM HERE TO TALK YOU ALL ABOUT ME WHAT THE OFFICE IS DOING SINCE I HAVE TAKEN OFFICE BUT I WANT TO I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I REALLY DO APPRECIATE YOU GIVING ME THAT TO DO SO AS I'M A VERY COLLABORATIVE SHERIFF RECOGNIZABLE BLOOMINGTON AS ONE OF THE BIGGEST CITIES IN THIS COUNTY AND SO PARTNERSHIP IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME. SO I'M GOING TO BRIEFLY TALK JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MYSELF.  DO THINK IT'S IMPERATIVE WHEN PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THE PERSON WHO'S IN THESE LEADERSHIP ROLES IT HELPS THEM UNDERSTAND LIKE HOW THEY USE THEIR LENSES WHEN MAKING BIG DECISIONS THAT AFFECT SO MANY PEOPLE.  AND THEN I'M GOING TO ALSO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE ISSUES THAT I SEE AS SHERIFF OR THE HENNEPIN COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND THEN ALL THE AREAS THAT THAT WE COVER . SO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ME I KNOW I HEARD SOME OTHER PEOPLE SAY THEY WERE FROM SOUTH MINNEAPOLIS. I TOO GREW UP IN SOUTH MINNEAPOLIS. I'M A PRODUCT OF MINNEAPOLIS PUBLIC SCHOOLS BEING A GRADUATE OF SOUTH HIGHER DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY'S FROM THERE BUT IF YOU ARE YOU'RE LUCKY.  DURING MY TIME IN HIGH SCHOOL I SHOULD SAY THAT I DIDN'T HAVE THE TYPICAL HIGH SCHOOL EXPERIENCE AS I WAS A TEEN MOM AS WELL. BUT I HAVE A GOOD SUPPORT SYSTEM PLAYING BASKETBALL EVENTUALLY I GRADUATED FROM HIGH SCHOOL WITH HONORS AND ON TIME I RECEIVED ALLEN PAIGE SCHOLARSHIP. THAT SCHOLARSHIP WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME BECAUSE.  ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IT REQUIRES YOU TO DO IS GIVE BACK TO YOUR COMMUNITY.  I CHOSE TO TEACH ENGLISH AS A SECOND LANGUAGE TO THE KIDS IN MY COMMUNITY AS WELL AS OFFER ORGANIZED SPORTS TO A LOT OF THEM WHO NEVER BEEN INVOLVED IN ORGANIZED SPORTS BEFORE WITH HAPPY AND SAD I CAN TELL YOU THAT I NEVER SAW MYSELF LAW ENFORCEMENT I NEVER THOUGHT I WOULD BE A SHERIFF. I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO BE FIRST AN ACCOUNTANT, THEN A TEACHER AND THEN A NURSE I WENT TO THE COLLEGE OF SAINT CATHERINE STARTING OFF IN THE NURSING PROGRAM WITH MY DEGREE IN CHEMICAL DEPENDENCY AND FAMILY THERAPY. I THEN WENT TO WORK IN NONPROFITS, RURAL AND FAMILY SERVICES PILLSBURY NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES WORKING WITH FAMILIES THAT HAD CHEMICAL HEALTH CHALLENGES AS WELL AS OPEN CHILD PROTECTION CASES. THE REASON TELLING YOU THIS IS I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO KNOW THE VARIOUS LENSES THAT I USE IN THIS ROLE AS SHERIFF ONE DAY WENT ON A TOUR OF THE HENNEPIN COUNTY JAIL TO BECOME A DETENTION DEPUTY. I DID NOT KNOW IT WOULD BE A 24 YEAR SENTENCE WHILE OUT HERE I AM SO FAR AND BUT IT OPENED MY EYES UP TO LAW ENFORCEMENT BECAUSE TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I CAN TELL YOU GROWING UP IN MINNEAPOLIS I DID NOT NOR FEEL SAFE WITH POLICE AND THAT WAS JUST BECAUSE OF MY FAMILY'S OWN EXPERIENCES.  BUT IT WAS THERE WHERE I HAD TO HAVE THOSE INTACTIONS, THOSE CONVERSATIONS THAT BROKE DOWN THOSE BARRIERS THAT SAID THEY'RE NOT THAT AND THAT'S WHY I'M A HUGE ADVOCATE FOR COMMUNITY POLICING UNTIL THIS VERY DAY BECAUSE THOSE ARE WHAT WE NEED TO BREAK DOWN THOSE BARRIERS AND BUILD ON THOSE RELATIONSHIPS 2004 PUT A LITTLE PLUG IN HERE I DID APPLY TO BLOOMINGTON POLICE DEPARTMENT AS A LICENSED OFFICER BUT I DIDN'T.  HOWEVER, DAKOTA COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE HIRED AND IT WAS IN THAT CAPACITY THAT I WORKED VARIOUS ROLES FROM DETECTIVE SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER, CRISIS NEGOTIATOR LATER EVENTUALLY BECOMING A SERGEANT AND PROMOTED TO CAPTAIN BEING THE FIRST WOMAN TO REACH THE RANK OF CAPTAIN AT THAT AGENCY AND 2019 I WAS ASKED TO COME BACK TO HENNEPIN COUNTY AND I MADE THE CHOICE TO DO AFTER TURNING IT DOWN A COUPLE OF TIMES IT WAS IN THE ROLE AS A MAJOR I THINK WE CAN TALK ABOUT WHAT THE LAST 4 TO 5 YEARS HAVE BROUGHT ON TO US WAS A LOT TO DEAL WITH BUT YOU KNOW WHAT WE KNOW IS WE NEEDED ARE PEOPLE WHO HAD STRONG BONDS, HAD THE DESIRE TO WORK COLLABORATIVELY TO GET US THROUGH THOSE TOUGH TIMES. SO IN 2022 I WAS ELECTED 2023 I TOOK OVER THE OFFICE AND BOY LET ME TELL YOU IT WAS A SURPRISE TO ME TO BUT I AM HAPPY TO SAY THAT I RAN AFTER BEING AUTHENTIC AND NOT FORGETTING WHERE I CAME FROM AND NOT FORGETTING ALL THOSE VARIOUS LENSES I CAN BRING TO PUBLIC SAFETY. SO RIGHT NOW ABOUT THE HENNEPIN COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE RIGHT NOW I HAVE AROUND 800 FULL TIME EMPLOYEES, 50 PART TIME EMPLOYEES. I AM LIKE NO OTHER AGENCIES I SHOULD SAY MOST AGENCIES BECAUSE I THINK BLOOMINGTON IS PRETTY MUCH FULL STAFF. GOOD JOB YOU GUYS BUT RIGHT NOW I'M AUTHORIZED HAVE 241 LICENSE DEPUTIES I'M DOWN ABOUT 35 I'M LICENSED TO AUTHORIZE HAVE 198 DETENTION DEPUTIES AND I'M DOWN ABOUT FIVE IN THAT AREA. YOU KNOW I KNOW THAT PEOPLE GET LOST IN THE NUMBERS SAY MINNEAPOLIS HAVE. BUT I GOT TO TELL YOU THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WITH ALL OF THE STATUTORY MANDATES THAT I AS A SHERIFF HAVE TO MEET.  WHEN I STARTED THIS JOB WE ONLY HAD FOUR BUREAUS BUT RECOGNIZING THAT WE HAD TO EXPAND NO MATTER WHAT OUR SHORTAGES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE RESPONSIVE BECAUSE I LIKE TO BE PROACTIVE AND I ALWAYS REACTIVE WHEN IT COMES TO PUBLIC SAFETY. SO WE'VE EXPANDED OUR BUREAUS WE HAVE THEN AND I'M TALKING REALLY FAST BECAUSE I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE IN THE TIMES SO TELL ME IF I GO TOO FAST OR SOMETHING SORRY ABOUT THAT.  SO OUR INVESTIGATION BUREAU WHICH OVERSEES OUR CRIME LAB CRIMINAL INTELLIGENCE DIVISION MAJOR CRIMES DIVISION WHICH INCLUDES VOTE OF OUR NEW ADULT THEFT ETF AND WELL AS WELL AS OUR ELECTRONICS CRIME TEAM.  NEXT WE HAVE OUR ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES BUREAU WHICH OVERSEES PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS EXCUSE ME LAW PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS, TRAINING AND TECHNOLOGY WHICH IS HUGE WITH EVERYTHING WE'RE SEEING WITH AI AND YOU KNOW THE AMOUNT OF CRIME SOPHISTICATED CRIMES THAT WE'RE SEEING THAT ARE WHERE TECHNOLOGY BASED WE HAVE A TEAM SPECIFICALLY THAT LOOKS INTO THOSE TYPE OF CRIMES OUR COURT SERVICES ADULT DETENTION BUREAU WHICH WAS RECENTLY INTO WHEN I CAME BACK TO HENNEPIN COUNTY IN 2019 AS THE MAJOR OVERSAW THE COURT BUREAU AS WELL AS THE JAIL BUREAU.  AND LET ME TELL YOU THE JAIL IS THE BIGGEST LIABILITY OF ANY SHERIFF'S OFFICE. IT DESERVE TO HAVE ITS OWN OVERSIGHT .  SO WE CREATED ANOTHER BUREAU WHERE THAT MATRIX CAN ONLY FOCUS ON THE JAIL AGAIN BEING PROACTIVE SO WE'RE NOT ALWAYS RESPONDI TO PEOPLE AGAIN BEING THE LARGEST JAIL IN THE STATE YOU MIGHT HAVE SEEN THINGS RECENTLY IN THE NEWS WHERE WE'VE BEEN OVERPOPULATED I THINK OUR COUNTY WAS AROUND 870 WHERE 839 BED FACILITY.  BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID, LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 2019 AND IF WE LOOK AT THE STATS TODAY IN 2019 WE HAD A LARGE NUMBER OF MISDEMEANOR PEOPLE BEING HELD IN OUR FACILITY TODAY I WILL TELL YOU IT HAS NOT DROPPED BELOW 80% IN AT LEAST THE LAST YEAR OF PEOPLE BEING HELD IN OUR CUSTODY ON VIOLENT FELONY CRIMES WHICH MEANS THE LENGTH OF STAY IS LONGER BECAUSE THOSE TRIALS TEND TO TAKE LONGER.  OUR PUBLIC SAFETY'S I SAY SO SORRY. SO THE COURT BUREAU HAS NOW TAKEN OVER OUR CIVIL EXTRADITIONS AND TRANSPORTS AND THAT WAS A BIG DEAL BECAUSE WE'RE STILL SEEING OF THE RESIDUAL RESIDUAL EFFECTS OF THE PANDEMIC WITH PAPER SERVICE THAT IS ONE OF THE STATUTORY MANDATES OF THE SHERIFF IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE CIVIL OBLIGATIONS TAKEN CARE OF AND WE ARE GETTING HAMMERED WITH THAT IN THE BACKLOG OF THE COURTS IS ALSO SOMETHING THAT'S VERY MUCH AFFECTED BY THAT.  OUR PUBLIC SAFETY BUREAU WHICH OVERSEES OUR DISPATCH UNIT,  OUR PATROL, OUR WATER PATROL AND THINGS LIKE THAT SOME PEOPLE ASK WELL WHY DO WE NEED SO MANY PEOPLE IN THE WATER WHEN THERE'S SO MUCH CRIME?  IS THE STATUTORY MANDATE FOR THE SHERIFF TO ENFORCE LAWS ON THE WATER AS WELL? AND THEN OUR PUBLIC AFFAIRS BUREAU.  SO AS I SAID BEFORE, I'M REALLY HUGE ON COMMUNITY SERVICE AND YOU KNOW NO MATTER THE SHORTAGE SOMETHING THAT WAS NON-NEGOTIABLE FOR ME IS MAKING SURE WE HAVE A TEAM THAT'S PROACTIVELY ALL THE TIME OUT THERE BUILDING THOSE RELATIONSHIPS SO THAT THEY ARE SUSTAINABLE.  SO OUR PUBLIC AFFAIRS BUREAU INCLUDES OUR COMMUNITY OUTREACH TEAM AS WELL AS OUR WELLNESS TEAM BECAUSE WE BELIEVE IN TAKING CARE OF EACH OTHER SO THAT THEY CAN DO GOOD WORK FOR THE COMMUNITIES THAT THEY PROMISE TO SERVE AND PROTECT.  AND THEN ALSO OUR MEDIA TEAM WHEN WE GO TO TALK ABOUT THE CURRENT CHALLENGES IN LAW ENFORCEMENT YOU KNOW I AM ALSO AN ADJUNCT PROFESSOR AT INVER HILLS COMMUNITY COLLEGE. WHAT I WILL TELL YOU IS OUR CLASSES HAD DROPPED BELOW TEN. SOME PEOPLE HAD SINGLE DIGIT NUMBERS THIS SEMESTER.  I HAVE 30 STUDENTS IN MY CLASS. I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT SINCE PROBABLY 2017 SO I DO SEE THE PENDULUM STARTING TO SWING BACK BUT WE STILL GOT TO DEAL WITH HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT OUR DEPUTIES ARE NOT BEING TASKED TOO MUCH WITH OVERTIME FORCED OVERTIME IF YOU WILL.  AND SO THAT IS ONE OF MY BIGGEST CHALLENGES. IT IS RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION.  YOU KNOW, WE WE WE GET GOOD PEOPLE BUT WE'RE STILL LOSING PEOPLE WHETHER IT'S PTSD RETIREMENTS PEOPLE LEAVING FOR OTHER AGENCIES. BUT THAT IS ONE OF MY BIGGEST CHALLENGES TO THIS DAY AS SHARED WITH YOU WHAT OUR STAFFING NUMBERS ARE JUST A SHORT TIME AGO ALSO IF THE COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS WHEN I TALK ABOUT COMMUNITY OUTREACH AS A PERSON WHO GREW UP IN MINNEAPOLIS AND UNDERSTANDING THE RESOURCES OR LACK THEREOF AND WHAT IT TO REALLY BUILD TRUSTING RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN LAW ENFORCEMENT AND COMMUNITY THAT HAS BEEN A CHALLENGE WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENED IN MINNEAPOLIS. BUT YOU KNOW I'M PROUD TO SAY TOO THAT I'VE BEEN HAVING A LOT COMMUNITY FEEDBACK WHERE THEY'RE SAYING THEY'RE NOT USED TO SEEING IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE THEY'RE HAPPY TO SEE US IN THEIR COMMUNITIES, WHICH HAS BEEN A BLESSING.  AND THEN LASTLY, AS WE ALL WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE LACK OF CONSEQUENCES NOT JUST FOR OUR ADULTS BUT FOR OUR JUVENILES YOU KNOW, I TALKED EARLIER COLLABORATION WE NEED MORE COLLABORATION TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOT ABOUT PEOPLE PENALIZED BUT IT'S ABOUT BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE.  ADULTS AND JUVENILES ALIKE NEED TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE. THAT'S WE LEARNED THAT'S HOW WE LEARN THE BOUNDARIES. BUT THAT HAS BEEN A CHALLENGE I CAN TELL YOU HAVING SOME OF THE MEETINGS WITH MY DETECTIVES AND AND MY TASK FORCE BEING OUT THERE SEEING SOME OF THE SAME REPEATED OFFENDERS IS QUITE TIRESOME BUT YOU KNOW, MY BIGGEST JOB IS MAKING SURE I KEEP THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO ARE THERE AND MOTIVATE US SO THEY CONTINUE TO DO THE WORK AND CONTINUE TO BE PROFESSIONALS AS THEY AS THEY DO. SO WHEN I GO AND TALK ABOUT THE MY STRATEGIC PRIORITIES WELL NUMBER ONE HAS TO BE VIOLENT CRIME BECAUSE OF CRIME AND CRIME IS AN ISSUE THRIVES NO ONE FEELS SAFE. NO ONE IS HAS THE BEST CHANCE POSSIBLE TO TRY TO LIVE THE LIFE THAT THEY WANT AND DESERVE.  HENNEPIN COUNTY HAD A RECORD NUMBER OF HOMICIDES IN 2021.  I USE HOMICIDES AS THE MAIN STATISTIC BECAUSE MANY CRIMES ARE RELIANT ON PEOPLE REPORTING REPORTING THEM AND THAT'S WHAT AFFECTS THE NUMBERS. YOU KNOW, THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOE THAT ARE CONFUSED AS CRIME OUTCOMES ARE DOWN. HOS IT GOING DOWN, HOW IS IT AFFECTED? BUT WE ALL KNOW IT DEPENDS ON HOW THAT DATA IS COLLECTED AND WHAT TIME FRAMES THAT WE'RE USING BUT HOMICIDES ARE ALWAYS REPORTED AND THEREFORE MORE USEFUL ACROSS TIMES WHEN CITIZENS ARE REPORTING BEHAVIOR CHANGES BY HOMICIDES HAVE DECREASED IN 2022 AND 2023 THEY ARE STILL NEARLY DOUBLE.  THEY WERE IN IN 2010 TO 2015 POINT IS IS WE MADE PROGRESS BUT.  WE STILL GOT A LONG WAYS TO GO. IT'S NOT THE TIME TO RELAX. WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO WORK TOGETHER AND TO DO OUR WORK IN THE BEST POSSIBLE WAY TO SURE THAT OUR COMMUNITIES ARE SAFE AS WE ALL KNOW AS BLOOMINGTON IS ONE OF THE CITIES IN HENNEPIN COUNTY AND WHILE WE FOLLOW ALL THE RULES ACROSS OUR JURISDICTIONS, WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT NOT AND THAT'S WHY THE IMPORTANCE OF COLLABORATING IN MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE GOOD TEAMWORK IS IMPERATIVE RIGHT NOW AGAIN AND NOT THE TIME TO RELAX.  I CAN TELL YOU AS FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, WE HAVE LEVERAGE NOT JUST WITH OUR LOCAL PARTNERS BUT ALSO OUR FEDERAL AND STATE PARTNERS TO GET THIS DONE SOMETIMES BAD THINGS HAVE TO HAPPEN FOR BETTER THINGS TO HAPPEN. I WILL ADMIT TO YOU WE HAVE NOT ALWAYS WORKED THE BEST TOGETHER SO ALL THESE BAD THINGS WHAT THEY DID IS THEY FORCED US TO HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER WHICH I THINK IS A GOOD THING BECAUSE.  IT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE A LONG TIME AGO WHEN I TALK ABOUT LIKE THINGS LIKE OUR VIOLENT OFTEN VIOLENT OFFENDER TASK FORCE OR SOUTHWEST HENNEPIN DRUG TASK FORCE AND OUR WEST METRO DRUG FORCE YOU KNOW JUST THINKING ABOUT THE STATS FOR 2024 AND MAKING 760 ARRESTS AND RECOVERING HUNDRED AND 56 ILLEGALLY POSSESSED OR ILLEGAL FIREARMS AND WE'RE NOT EVEN DONE YET WITH THIS YEAR AND THAT'S JUST ONE AGENCY THE YOU KNOW I'VE BEEN TRAINING MYSELF SAYING OFTEN LATELY IS THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE WORLD THAT THAT'S IN FRONT OF US. WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE REALITY THINGS TO GET TO THE WORLD THAT W WOULD LIKE TO HAVE. AND SO AGAIN THAT MEANS BEING COLLABORATIVE AND WORKING WITH ALL OF OUR PARTNERS.  NO ONE AGENCY CAN DO THIS ALONE. NUMBER TWO IS THE OPIOID OVERDOSE PREVENTION PROGRAM THAT HAS TO BE A PRIORITY AS WELL BECAUSE OF FENTANYL WE'VE SEEN ABOUT A 500% INCREASE IN OPIOID OVERDOSES OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS. ONE PERSON A DAY DIED OF OPIOID OVERDOSE IN 2023 IN HENNEPIN COUNTY ALONE WHEN I TALK ABOUT THE COMPENSATION AS JUST FROM THE HENNEPIN COUNTY OFFICE. WELL IF I TELL YOU THAT IN A MATTER OF A SIX MONTHS TIME WE SEIZED ENOUGH FENTANYL OFF OF THE STREETS THAT COULD POTENTIALLY KILL EVERY PERSON IN HENNEPIN COUNTY THAT IS HORRENDOUS AGAIN THAT'S THE REALITY OF WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH.  YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOTHING SHORT OF AN RIGHT NOW AND IN FACT I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE INITIATED A PROGRAM IS CALLED FOCUS ON FENTANYL AND THAT PROGRAM ACTUALLY LAUNCHED BECAUSE OF A BLOOMINGTON RESIDENT WHO CAME TO ME AND TALKED ABOUT HER SON WHO OVERDOSE AND SHE TOUCHED HEART. LIKE I SAID, COMMUNITY MEANS EVERYTHING TO ME.  BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE AFTER TALKING WITH THAT FAMILY THEN TALKING TO ANOTHER FROM ANOTHER CITY AND WHEN WE THINK THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT THIS IS AND EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT TO DO AND EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT THE RESOURCES ARE I TALKED TO ANOTHER MOTHER WHO WILL FOREVER HAVE HER HEART.  SHE COULD HAVE POTENTIALLY BEEN ABLE TO SAVE HER DAUGHTER IF SHE KNEW WHAT NARCAN SHE DID NOT. SO YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT ARRESTING PEOPLE AND LOCKING PEOPLE UP. THERE HAS TO BE A PREVENTION AND EDUCATION PIECE.  PROUD TO SAY THAT AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WE GO TO THE COMMUNITY WE, TEACH NARCAN CLASSES, WE GIVE NARCAN OUT ALL IN EFFORTS TO KEEP PEOPLE AS SAFE AS POSSIBLE AND.  THE NUMBER THREE PROGRAM GOSH, THIS IS WHERE I GET PASSIONATE ABOUT NOT EVERYBODY REALIZES THAT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN OUR CUSTODY, THE HENNEPIN COUNTY JAIL IS A PRETRIAL FACILITY.  OVER 80% OF THE PEOPLE GO INTO THAT FACILITY, GO BACK TO THEIR COMMUNITIES AND THAT'S BEFORE THE WORD REVOLVING DOOR BECAME A THING THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN WITH THE PRETRIAL FACILITY. WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WOULD I WOULD LIKE TO PEOPLE TO THINK ABOUT OUR COMMUNITIES ARE SAFER JAILS ARE SAFER IF YOUR JAILS ARE SAFER, YOUR COMMUNITY ARE SAFER, PEOPLE ARE GO BACK TO THEIR COMMUNITIES. SO BRINGING PROGRAMS TO THE PEOPLE WHILE I HAVE THEIR ATTENTION WHILE THEY'RE AWAY FROM THE STRESSOR MUST BE A PRIORITY FOR ME. I DON'T GO IN EXPECTING TO SAVE HUNDRED PEOPLE BUT I HAVE TO BELIEVE IF I CAN SAVE OR HELP CHANGE THE LIVES OF ONE OR TWO AND THEN THAT DOMINO EFFECT ON WHAT THEY DO WITH THEIR FAMILIES IN THEIR COMMUNITIES HAS TO BE IMPORTANT AND.  SO I STAND ON THAT. WE LAUNCHED A PROGRAM CALLED HOPE STANDS FOR HELPING OTHERS BY PROVIDING EDUCATION. IT JUST ISN'T AN EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM BUT WE TEACH LIFE SKILLS. WE NOT ONLY DO GUIDES, WE TEACH PEOPLE OR HELP PEOPLE OBTAIN THEIR ACTUAL DIPLOMA JOB JOB SKILLS.  WE'RE WORKING WITH UNIONS AND CREDIT UNIONS TO BRING RESOURCES INTO JAIL AGAIN SAFER JAILS, SAFER COMMUNITIES, SAFER MEANS SAFER JAILS AND IT'S BEEN AN INCREDIBLY SUCCESSFUL THE NATIONAL AMERICAN COUNTIES ORGANIZATION WE CALL OUR NICOLE HAS RECOGNIZED OUR PROGRAM WE'RE DOING THERE WE WENT TO RIGHT COUNTY AND WE HELPED THEM LAUNCH THE SAME THING AGAIN WITH THE FOCUS THE PEOPLE IN THAT FACILITY ARE PART OUR COMMUNITY SO WE SHOULD BE MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE DOING SOMETHING FOR THEM THEIR VIRAL THEFT UNIT WHICH I RECENTLY BROUGHT UP WE STARTED THAT OUT IN JANUARY OF THIS AND THAT WAS IN RESPONSE TO THE DEVASTATING NUMBERS THAT WE'VE SEEN IN HENNEPIN COUNTY FOR AUTO THEFT.  AS YOU MAY KNOW, BLOOMINGTON IS IN THE TOP THREE FOR ADULT THEFT. MINNEAPOLIS IS A FAR DISTANT HIGH AND NOBODY'S GOING TO CATCH THEM. THANK GOD.  BUT YOU KNOW, COLLABORATING WITH OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES AND BRINGING THIS TEAM TOGETHER HAD TO A MUST WHAT WE'VE SEEN SO FAR AGAIN WITH THEM JUST STARTING JANUARY NOT GETTING CAUGHT UNTIL MARCH, I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE NUMBER OF RECOVERIES THEY'VE HAD AS NET WORTH IS OVER $3 MILLION IN VEHICLES THAT THEY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO BRING BACK TO PEOPLE. AND WE THINK THAT IF SOMEBODY'S VEHICLE IS STOLEN, HOW DOES THAT AFFECT THEIR LIVELIHOOD, THEIR FAMILY THAT IS THEIR LIFELINE. SO WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO PREVENT THEM ALL EVEN THOUGH WE'RE TRYING TO WOULD BE A MORE PROACTIVE IN COMMUNITIES . RECOVERY IS ALSO IMPORTANT BECAUSE THAT IMPACTS FAMILIES MOTHERS, FATHERS FROM GETTING THEIR KIDS TO SCHOOL SPORTS OR WHATEVER IT IS.  AND SO I'M GLAD THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING AND AGAIN THERE'S BEEN A COUPLE OF OTHER AGENCIES THAT HAVE NOW DESIGNATED DETECTIVES TO WORK WITH OUR DETECTIVES TO BE A PART OF THIS INITIATIVE AND.  IT'S GROWING AND WE NEED IT TO CONTINUE TO GROW AND THEN I CAN'T JUST TALK TOO MUCH ABOUT RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION I ALREADY SPOKE ON IT FOR ME. I WILL TELL YOU IF WE'RE ALWAYS BEING RESPONSIVE BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH LAW ENFORCEMENT TO BE PREVENTIVE AND TO BUILD THOSE RELATIONSHIPS, IT IS GOING TO BE VERY HARD TO WORK ON BUILDING TRUST IN RELATIONSHIPS.  WE OFTENTIMES DO NOT LOOK GOOD WHEN WE'RE RESPONDING CALLS WHERE BAD THINGS ARE HAPPENING . JUST YESTERDAY AS I WAS AT AN EVENT IN BLOOMINGTON AND DEALING WITH A WOMAN WHO WAS GOING THROUGH A MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS AND WE HAD TO CALL BLOOMINGTON PD TO COME ASSESS AS I WAS IN MY REGULAR PEOPLE CLOTHES I DO WEAR THOSE SOMETIMES AND I DID MAKE THE LYNX GAME STILL BUT YOU KNOW SEEING THAT AND JUST BEING RESPONSIVE AND THEN SEEING THE PEOPLE WHO ARE PULLING OVER LOOKING LIKE WE WERE DOING SOMETHING WRONG THE REALITY OF IT IS IS SOMETIMES WHEN WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT THINGS AND PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT WE DO IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE DOING WRONG THING BAD THINGS. BUT ONE OF THE BEST WAYS TO COUNTER THAT IS OUR COMMUNITY KNOW THEIR POLICE DEPARTMENTS, KNOW THEIR SHERIFF'S OFFICES BECAUSE IF KNOW THE CULTURE WHEN THEY SEE THINGS IT'S NOT SO EASY FOR THEM TO JUST ASSUME WE'RE DOING SOMETHING WRONG OR DOING SOMETHING BAD. AND I WILL ADMIT IT LOOKED BAD BUT WE WERE TRYING TO HELP SOMEBODY FROM HURTING.  AND SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO MY BEST TO RECRUIT AND RETAIN PEOPLE AND COMMUNITY OUTREACH IS A BIG PART OF THAT AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CONTINUE TO DO THAT BECAUSE THAT MAKES US BETTER PARTNERS TO YOU ALL AS WELL WELL.  WHY DON'T WE JUST GO TO THE BLOOMINGTON STATS SO THINK AS JACOB GAVE YOU SOME OF THOSE BUT I WILL SAY THIS AND YOU DON'T DARE TELL YOUR CHIEF BUT BLOOMINGTON HAS ALWAYS HAD AN IMPECCABLE POLICE DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW WHERE THESE NUMBERS FLUCTUATE DEPENDING ON WHAT CITIES WE'RE IN AND WHAT RESOURCES THEY HAVE.  BLOOMINGTON HAS NEVER BEEN ONE THAT WE WORRY ABOUT. YOU ALL DO THAT WORK AND WE COMING INTO THE CITY AND HELPING OUT AT ANY TIME OUR WILL ALWAYS BE OPEN TO HELP FOR ANYTHING THAT IS NEEDED.  SO BUT I WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF JUST WHAT WE'VE HAD SO FAR THIS YEAR TO DATE.  AND WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN UP IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OR IF YOU DON'T WANT TO ASK QUESTIONS BECAUSE YOU STILL HAVE A FULL NIGHT TO GO. I UNDERSTAND THAT AS WELL. WELL THANK YOU. THE SHERIFF YES, WE DO HAVE A FULL NIGHT TO GO BUT I DO WANT TO OFFER AN OPPORTUNITY COUNSEL IF WE HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR THE SHERIFF VERY QUICKLY HERE AND WE CAN COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO AND THEN COUNCILMEMBER NELSON COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO, THANK YOU THANK YOU, SHERIFF, FOR BEING HERE. THIS IS A REALLY GOOD OVERVIEW OF NOT ONLY WHAT YOU DO BUT WHAT YOU DO WITH US. SO I APPRECIATE THAT I HAD A COUPLE QUICK QUESTIONS RELATED TO THAT. FIRST OFF, JUST ON THE STATISTICS AROUND HOMICIDES IS IS THAT I ASSUME THAT THOSE NUMBERS ARE UNIQUE MEANING THEY ARE NOT INCLUSIVE ALL OF HENNEPIN COUNTY THEY ARE THE HOMICIDES THAT ARE BEING REPORTED TO HAVE BEEN COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT THAT RIGHT OR DO OR IS IT A TOTAL OF ALL DEPARTMENTS IT'S DEPARTMENTS THAT'S A HENNEPIN COUNTY OVERLOOK OKAY AS WHO WE REPORT ALL OF OUR NUMBERS TO MOST LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES HAVE HAD THEIR OWN AND THEN WITH ALL OF OUR ANALYSTS AND THINGS LIKE WE BRING ALL OF THOSE NUMBERS TOGETHER. BUT THE BCA IS THE THE TRAIN FOR THAT. OKAY, THAT'S HELPFUL. SO THAT'S NOT WE DON'T TAKE BLOOMINGTON HOMICIDES PLUS HENNEPIN COUNTY HOMICIDES ADD THEM TOGETHER OUR NUMBERS ARE IN THAT NUMBER. NO YEAH. NO WE DON'T DO IT THAT WAY. OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO DOUBLE CHECK TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE WEREN'T DOING THAT MATH.  I WAS NOT SURE I WAS SUPPOSED TO DO THAT MATH RELATED TO THAT THEN IS THERE A YOU YOU MENTIONED THAT BECAUSE ALL ALL BECAUSE HOMICIDES ARE THE THING THAT ARE MOST CONSISTENTLY REPORTED YOU USE THAT AS KIND A OF A BENCHMARK IS THERE A CORRELATION WITH THE OTHER VIOLENT CRIMES MEANING?  DO THEY TEND TO GO UP AND DOWN AT THE SAME IN THE SAME KIND OF INTERVALS SO WE TYPICALLY SEE VIOLENT CRIMES INCREASE DURING SUMMERTIME, YOU KNOW AND THAT RUNS PARALLEL TO WHAT WE SEE IN THE JAIL TO WHERE OUR POPULATION TENDS TO GO UP IN THE SUMMER, COMES DOWN IN THE FALL THE WINTER BUT YEAH IT IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE VIOLENT CRIMES I WILL BE HONEST WITH YOU ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I BROUGHT UP AT OUR HENNEPIN CHIEF'S MEETINGS AS THINK THAT OUR ALL OF OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES WITHIN HENNEPIN COUNTY IT WOULD BE NICE TO SAY IS THE STATE. BUT IF WE WERE ALL WORKING ON THE SAME SYSTEM THAT'S ANOTHER BIG THING ABOUT BEING PREVENTATIVE IS LIKE HOW CAN YOU PREVENTATIVE IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION? A LOT OF US ARE DEALING WITH SOME OF THE SAME AND IT WOULD BE NICE IF WE HAD THAT THAT ABILITY TO TO SHARE INFORMATION AS A HUB. AND AGAIN I SPEAK FOR HENNEPIN COUNTY BECAUSE THE STATE IS JUST A BIGGER DEAL AS SOMEBODY WHO SPENT 16 YEARS OF MY LAW ENFORCEMENT CAREER IN DAKOTA COUNTY WE HAD THAT AND IT WORKS IT WORKS BETTER AGAIN WHEN YOU WANT TO BE PREVENTATIVE YOU GOT TO HAVE THE INFORMATION AND WE'RE THE ONLY ONES PLAYING BY THESE BOUNDARIES WHETHER YOU KNOW CITY BOUNDARIES COUNTY BOUNDARIES BUT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE PREYING ON OUR VULNERABLE PEOPLE DO NOT. WE NEED SOMETHING IN PLACE TO HELP US SHARE INFORMATION. OKAY. LAST QUESTION RELATED TO THAT THEN YOU MENTIONED THAT THE THE NUMBERS ON THE THAT ARE IN THE JAIL RIGHT NOW ARE OVER PERCENT VIOLENT FELONIES VERSUS MISDEMEANORS IS IS THAT IT SOUNDED LIKE YOU INDICATED THAT THAT'S A POSITIVE MEANING THAT THE RIGHT PEOPLE ARE BEING HELD IN THE JAIL AND THEY TAKE LONGER SO THAT'S WHY THE NUMBERS ARE HIGHER. CAN YOU EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT YOU ALL ARE DOING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE MOST VIOLENT OFFENDERS ARE BEING UNDERSTOOD THAT ARE BEING CARED FOR BUT THAT THEY'RE BEING DETAINED IN THEIR TRIALS? YES. WELL, I CAN TELL YOU IN 2019 THAT WAS NOT THE CASE. WE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WERE BEING HELD ON MISDEMEANORS FARE EVASION, JAYWALKING, IF YOU WILL,L, JUST MINOR MINOR CRIMES, NOT VIOLENT. ONE OF THE OTHER LESSONS THAT CAME OUT OF THE PANDEMIC AGAIN BECAUSE MANY JAIL THAT WAS HELD ARE WAS USED AS A NATIONAL STANDARD WITH WHAT WE DID WHEN WE LOOKED AT CRIME THERE AND WHO WE WERE HOLDING THAT FORCE US TO LOOK AT OUR HANDS WHO'S THERE AND WHO NEEDS TO BE THERE ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT KEEPING PEOPLE SAFE AND HAVING BED SPACE. HENNEPIN COUNTY JAIL DID NOT LESSEN ITS MEANS TO ENTER OUR FACILITY AS SOME JAILS DID.  IN FACT WE HAD PEOPLE FROM OTHER COUNTIES BRING IN PEOPLE TO OUR JAIL AND AT THAT POINT WE HAD TO SAY OKAY, ENOUGH OF THIS WHEN WE  LOOK AT THE STATS LIKE 2019 AND PRIOR TO THAT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HAVING A FULL FACILITY WE HAVE TO THINK WHO DO WE WANT THERE? DO WE WANT TO SAY OKAY SOMEBODY WHO IS BEING HELD ON A VIOLENT CRIME A VIOLENT FELONY CRIME CAN'T BE THERE BECAUSE WE'RE HOLDING SOMEBODY A FARE EVASION CITATION. BUT YOU KNOW AS, WE KEPT CONTINUALLY DOING THAT AND LOOKING AT OUR RULES AND WORKING WITH MY MY OTHER HENNEPIN COUNTY PARTNERS. YOU KNOW, AGAIN, YES, I AM PROUD TO SAY THAT RIGHT NOW WE HAVE WHO WE NEED TO HAVE IN THERE WHEN IT COMES TO THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IF WE HAD THE AMOUNT OF MISDEMEANORS WE HAD SAY IN 2019 AND PRIOR I NOT HAVE THE SPACE IN FACT I DON'T HAVE THE SPACE RIGHT NOW. I AM VERY TO HAVE GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH SOME OF MY OTHER COUNTY SHERIFFS.  I WANT TO SAY I HAVE MAYBE A 120 PEOPLE THAT ARE BEING HOUSED IN OTHER FACILITIES JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CONTINUE TO HAVE THAT SPACE AND WE ALSO HAVE SOME PROJECTS GOING ON AND I WILL TELL YOU I WAS VERY VOCAL ABOUT SAYING I AM NOT GOING TO BE AART OF VIOLENT OFFENDERS OUT. I WILL NOT BE ON BOARD WITH THAT.  SO WE TRY TO FIGURE IT OUT WITH THE RESOURCES WE HAVE. GREAT. WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT. I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU BACK HERE AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE AND I'LL SEE YOU TOMORROW AT THE LYNX GAME. YES YOU WILL WE JUST FOR HALFWAY BY F I WE LITERALLY SIT THREE SEATS FROM EACH OTHER SO WE GET TO SAY HELLO LIKE THIS LOOKS GOOD.  JANELLE THANK YOU MISS ZIMMERMAN NELSON QUICK QUESTION ON HERE SO I DO A FEW QUICK QUESTIONS IF I COULD.  I JUST WAS WONDERING YOU SHOWED A THING WITH THE ACTIVITY WITH BLOOMINGTON AND I IN YOUR ANALYSIS DOES THAT INDICATE A REDUCTION OF CRIME IN BLOOMINGTON?  DOES THAT INDICATE THAT DUE TO THE PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN HALPRIN COUNTY AND BLOOMINGTON THAT BLOOMINGTON POLICE DEPAMENT IS HANDLING MORE OF THOSE CALLS OR SOMETHING ELSE WHAT WHAT IS THE ANALYSIS SHOULD TAKE FROM THAT? MY ANALYSIS IS THAT BLOOMINGTON POLICE DEPARTMENT IS JUST A GREAT DEPARTMENT. THEY'RE PROACTIVE. THEY'RE OUT THERE, THEY'RE ENGAGED IN THEIR COMMUNITIES. YOU HAVE A VERY GOOD DEPARTMENT.  YOU KNOW, YOU THINK ABOUT SOME OF THE CITIES WHERE I HAD TO DO CONTRACTS WITH SUCH AS GOLDEN VALLEY, THE CITY OF BROOKLYN CENTER ACA WAS ASKING FOR.  SO THE STATUTORY MANDATE OF THE SHERIFF IS TO KEEP PEACE WITHIN THE ENTIRE COUNTY AND WE HAVE AGENCIES THAT FUNCTION AS WELL AS BLOOMINGTON DOES THAT MEANS YOU NEED LESS RESOURCES. BUT IT ALSO SAYS WE'RE HERE FOR WHATEVER IT IS YOU NEED. YOU KNOW THINK ABOUT I LIKE I WAS ACTUALLY SURPRISED WITH THE NUMBER OF THEFTS IN BLOOMINGTON ONE I DIDN'T SEE COMING OR WHATEVER AND AGAIN IT'S MINNEAPOLIS IS THE OUTLIER WITH THEIR NUMBERS BUT IT'S LIKE OKAY IS THAT WHERE WE THINK THAT OKAY THAT MAYBE WE CAN PARTNER ON BECAUSE AGAIN NOT EVERYBODY'S PLAYING BY THE RULES OF THE CITY BOUNDARIES AND SO HOW DO WE WORK BEST TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE KEEPING OUR COMMUNITY SAFE EVEN PEOPLE THAT ARE STILL IN THE CARS FANTASTIC YOU FOR THAT RESPONSE OH YEAH WHO HAS JACOB POINTED OUT 12 MONTHS VERSUS NINE MONTHS YOU KNOW THE 2023 STATS AS THE FULL 12 MONTHS AND THEN 2024 VIRTUALLY THE YTD. YES SO I MISSED THAT. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. WE'LL TAKE IT FOR WHAT IT IS. LET'S GET MY NEXT QUESTION AS YOU TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE INCARCERATION THING. COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO ABOUT WHO YOU'RE DOING, IS THAT DOES THAT HOLD FOR THE JUVENILE DETENTION?  IS THAT UNDER YOUR PURVIEW AS WELL BECAUSE YOU HAD MENTIONED SOMETHING IN PARTICULAR WITH YOUTH CRIME AND THINGS LIKE IS ARE WE ARE YOU ABLE TO HOLD THOSE THAT ARE CAUSING MOST VIOLENT PROBLEMS THERE? NO.  THE JUVENILE DETENTION CENTER IS UNDER THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY CORRECTIONS, NOT UNDER THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND THAT'S IN MOST COUNTIES AND MINNESOTA NOT ALL BUT MOST. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT I HAVE AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL AND I KNOW YOU'RE ELECTED ALL OF US ARE ELECTED IS THERE ARE MISUNDERSTANDINGS BETWEEN US AND THE OFFICERS AND POLICE AND DO YOU HAVE ANY ADVICE ON TO BUILD TRUST BETWEEN ELECTED OFFICIALS AND POLICE DEPARTMENT? YOU KNOW, I HOLD OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT HIGH REGARD THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT IN HIGH REGARD BUT IT IT'S SOMETIMES CHALLENGING BECAUSE THERE ARE MISCONCEPTIONS ON BOTH SIDES.  WELL, I THINK A LOT OF THOSE MISCONCEPTIONS ARE IS BECAUSE OF THE BARRIERS THAT ARE PUT UP BECAUSE OF WHAT OUR PERCEIVED BELIEFS ARE.  AS I MENTIONED YESTERDAY, HELPING THAT WOMAN WHO IS IN A CRISIS DIDN'T LOOK LIKE THAT. IT LOOKED LIKE AS IF WE WERE HURTING HER YET WE WERE TRYING TO MAKE SURE SHE DIDN'T HURT HERSELF.  THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT IS AS I BROUGHT UP I WAS THAT PERSON WHO DIDN'T THINK THERE WAS ANY GOOD LAW ENFORCEMENT PEOPLE. IT TAKES INTERACTION. IT TAKES COMMUNICATION AND IT TAKES A LOT OF LISTENING. I KNOW THAT I INVITE LIKE OUR COMMISSIONERS I WANT YOU TO COME WALK THROUGH OUR DOOR.  I WANT YOU TO TOUR IT BE A PART OF THE CITY'S ACADEMY. TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY LEARN NOT JUST WHAT WE DO BUT WHY DO IT?  AND IF IT'S STILL A DISAGREEMENT IT WON'T BE BECAUSE.  YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND BUT I WILL INVITE TO TO MAKE THOSE CONNECTIONS A JUST TRY TO UNDERSTAND THOUGH THE WHYS BEHIND WHAT WE DO. IT'S VERY DIFFICULT. I CAN TELL YOU THERE'S BEEN SOME PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN LIKE I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU'RE HAVING THIS MANY TOURS IN THE JAIL. WELL, I'LL TELL YOU AS I SAY TO MY LAW ENFORCEMENT ALL THE TIME, LET'S STOP ACTING LIKE WE'RE DOING SOMETHING WRONG.  WE HAVE TO EDUCATE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME AND WE HAVE TO BE OPEN FOR PEOPLE TO CRITICIZE US. I HAVE A COMMUNITY BOARD THAT CONSISTS OF 29 PEOPLE THROUGHOUT HENNEPIN COUNTY.  THERE'S ACTIVISTS ON THERE. THERE'S RETIRED JUDGES, ATTORNEYS AT HOME MOMS, EVERYTHING THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING THOSE DIVERSE LENSES IS SO IMPORTANT AGAIN WHEN WE'RE MAKING DECISIONS YOU HAVE MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE RIGHT PEOPLE AT THE TABLE AND THAT PEOPLE HAVE THE THE ENCOURAGEMENT TO SPEAK OUT EVEN IF THEY'RE THE MINORITY IN THAT GROUP. I MEAN THAT IS WHAT WE ALL TAKEN ON AS ELECTED OFFICIALS . WE DON'T JUST REPRESENT PEOPLE THAT THINK LIKE US. WE REPRESENT PEOPLE WHO DON'T THINK LIKE US SO INVITING PEOPLE TO THE TABLE, GOING TO YOUR POLICE BEING PART RIDE ALONGS AND THOSE THINGS IN JUST TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND AND AT THE END OF THE IF YOU STILL DISAGREE THAT'S OKAY BUT LET IT NOT BE BECAUSE WE DIDN'T TRY AGAIN I WAS ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE YOU COULD NOT TELL ME THERE WAS A GOOD COP IN THIS WORLD. YOU COULD NOT TELL ME THAT THE ONLY THING THAT BREAKS THOSE DOWN IS LET PEOPLE IN BE HONEST, BE TRANSPARENT AND.  WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THAT AS A LAW ENFORCEMENT, AS A PROFESSION.  BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? GOOGLE GOT US BEAT. YOU CAN FIND ANYTHING ON GOOGLE NOW RIGHT?  SO BUT IT'S THAT THAT'S PART OF THAT CULTURE THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN AND NOT BEING AFRAID TO BE CRITICIZED JUST KNOW WHEN YOU MAKE DECISIONS SOMETIMES THERE'S MISTAKES TO BE MADE WITH THAT IS NOT BECAUSE YOU WERE NEGLIGENT AND IT WASN'T BECAUSE YOU WEREN'T INCLUSIVE. IT'S BECAUSE THERE'S NO ONE PERFECT IN THIS WORLD. THANK FOR THAT ANSWER AND I WILL TELL YOU WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THAT TO EVERYONE ALSO SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. MY LAST QUESTION IF I CAN JUST VERY QUICKLY IF WE LOOK AT YOU LOOKED AT THE OPIOIDS AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS AND WE HAVE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT SOMEONE IN THEIR FAMILY IS IS STRUGGLING WITH THAT THERE'S A NUMBER OF SO MANY PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT THAT THAT ISSUE WHAT SERVICES WHAT HELP THE HADN'T BEEN COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT PROVIDE TO A FAMILY THAT SOMEONE WHO IS HAVING A DRUG OR MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES HOW HOW CAN YOU ASSIST THANK YOU FOR ASKING THOSE QUESTIONS FIRST OF ALL I CAN TELL YOU I ALSO HAVE A STUDENT ADVISORY CAP AND THAT CONSIST OF HIGH SCHOOLERS BETWEEN GRADES TEN AND 12. SEVERAL OF THOSE STUDENTS ARE ALSO BLOOMINGTON STUDENTS AND I LISTEN TO THEM AND WANT TO KNOW WHAT THEY SAY. OUR PROBLEM IS IS THAT WE DON'T LISTEN TO THEM AND SO WE FORCE THEM TO GO LOOK ON THE INTERNET FOR THE ANSWERS AGAIN WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO RAISE OUR KIDS IN THIS WORLD DOES NOT EXIST BECAUSE WE WANT THEM TO HAVE A BETTER LIFE. WE ALSO GOT TO THINK ABOUT PROTECTING THEM AND PROTECTING THEM IS BY EDUCATING THEM ABOUT THE DANGERS THAT ARE OUT THERE.  WELL, TALKING TO THOSE STUDENTS AND YOU KNOW, I WILL SPEAK SPECIFICALLY TO BLOOMINGTON, INDIANA STUDENTS THAT ARE ON THAT TAB AND WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT HOW THEY'RE ASKING THEIR SCHOOLS FOR INFORMATION AND IT'S NOT ALWAYS THEIR I WILL TELL YOU AS SOMEONE WHO'S BEEN PUSHING THIS FOCUS ON SENTINEL INITIATIVE, WE'VE BEEN ASKING TO GET IN SCHOOLS TO TALK THE STUDENT BODIES AND THAT HAS NOT BEEN HAPPENING. I'VE WORKED WITH OTHER PEOPLE IN THE RECOVERY FIELD WHEN FOR WHATEVER REASON IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE HAVING A HARDER TIME GETTING INTO PUBLIC SCHOOLS THAN WE ARE PRIVATE BECAUSE WE HAVE PROVIDED SERVICES IN PRIVATE SCHOOLS. WELL WE'RE JUST HAVING OPEN FORUMS AND TALKING TO PEOPLE AGAIN YOU TALK TO SOME OF THESE PARENTS WHO HAVE LOST THEIR CHILDREN TO OVERDOSE DEATHS.  THEY'RE ASKING FOR HELP AND I'LL GO BACK TO WHAT THOSE KIDS THAT CAMPUS SAID. WE'RE NOT LISTENING WHEN FIND OUT THAT ONE OF YOUR FRIENDS HAVE DIED FROM OVERDOSE AND A KID WHO THINKS THAT THEY'RE BUYING ADDERALL ON SNAPCHAT AND THAT'S A WHOLE OTHER STORY WHY WHY WOULD THEY BUY AN ADDERALL BUT YET YOU HAVE PEOPLE MASKING THAT AND IT'S ACTUALLY FENTANYL NOT EVERYBODY WHO'S DYING FROM THIS IS KNOWINGLY TAKING IT. SO EDUCATION HAS GOT TO BE A PIECE. WE NEED MORE PUBLIC FORUMS. WE REALLY DO NEED TO BE BACK IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEMS. ONE OF THE OTHER INITIATIVES THAT I BROUGHT BACK HENNEPIN COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS THE DARE PROGRAM AND THERE IS MORE THAN ABOUT SAY NO TO DRUGS NOW IT'S GOT A LOT OF DIFFERENT COMPONENTS TO IT. WE HAD A WAITING LIST OF THAT WANTED US TO COME AND DO THE DARE PROGRAM AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY THERE TOO WHERE KIDS SEE US AS BEING PROACTIVE AGAIN. THAT'S ANOTHER WAY TO BRIDGE THAT GAP IS BEING PROACTIVE, DOING THE WORK AGAIN WE HAVE OUR OUR TEAM THAT GOES OUT TO THE COMMUNITY OF BLOOMINGTON EVER WANTED TO HOST LIKE A COMMUNITY FORUM WE WILL COME OUT AND WE WILL TEACH ABOUT THE DANGERS OF FENTANYL. WE WILL TEACH HOW USE NARCAN HERE WE ARE NOW WHERE THERE'S SOME PEOPLE ARE LIKE OH I CAN JUST DO THAT ONLINE. I DON'T THINK THAT BE ONE OF THOSE ONLINE THINGS IT'S IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO DO IN PERSON AND AGAIN WITH WHAT WE'RE SEEING OUT THERE WITH THE NUMBER OF DEATHS THAT WE'RE SEEING WHERE THE PEOPLE ARE KNOWINGLY TAKING FENTANYL OR NOT, IT'S AN EPIDEMIC AND WE REALLY NEED TO THINK HOW ARE WE GOING TO COMBAT THAT?  HOW ARE WE GOING TO STOP HELPING THE PEOPLE THAT ARE PREYING ON OUR FAMILIES, OUR CHILDREN AND THAT'S BY MAKING SURE THAT WE GIVE THEM THE POWER THEY NEED AND THAT'S KNOWLEDGE.  THANK YOU. I DON'T KNOW ANY OTHER QUESTIONS I WOULD JUST ASK THE MAYOR AND CITY TO CONSIDER WORKING WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT TO DO THAT TYPE OF EDUCATION IN OUR COMMUNITY WORK WITH OUR SCHOOLS IF THERE'S A WAY TO DO THAT IF YOU'RE IT SEEMS YOU'RE VERY INTERESTED IN THAT. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.  IT'S GREATLY APPRECIATED. THEY TAKE YOUR TIME TO COME DOWN AND TALK TO OUR COMMUNITY . SO COUNCILMEMBER IF I COULD JUST ADD ONE MORE THING I FORGOT TO BRING WE JUST RECENTLY HIRED AN OPIOID COORDINATOR TO TO HELP US COORDINATE ALL OF THE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING WITHIN THE COUNTY AND WE CAN DO BETTER TO PROVIDE SERVICES AS WELL AS EDUCATION AND PREVENTATIVE MEASURES. AND SO HE IS ALSO GOING TO BE REACHING OUT I'M SURE TO THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON TO ASK OKAY, WHAT DID YOU SEE IT AND HOW HOW CAN WE HELP? SO WE HIRED A FULL TIME PERSON TO DO WORK.  HE'S VERY GOOD. HE'S VERY I HOPE HE'S NOT LISTENING. HE'S ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT KNOWS ALL THE STATS LIKE OFF THE BACK OF HIS HEADS. I WON'T SAY NERDY BUT KIND OF NERDY BUT HE'S AMAZING. HE'S AMAZING. SO I LOOK FORWARD TO MAYBE HIM REACHING OUT AS WELL. VERY GOOD, SHERIFF. WE THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US THIS EVENING. THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION AND.  THANKS FOR THE CONTINUED PARTNERSHIP WITH BLOOMINGTON AND THE BLOOMINGTON POLICE DEPARTMENT. IT'S GREATLY APPRECIATED.  I GREATLY APPRECIATE YOU AS WELL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU , ADAM. 2.3 ON OUR AGENDA AN UPDATE AND SOME INFORMATION ON OUR NEWEST BLOOMINGTON NONPROFIT BLOOMINGTON PRIDE AND.  AMANDA CROMBIE I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO KICK THIS OFF FOR US AMANDA.  OF COURSE SHE'S WITH OUR COED DEPARTMENT. GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME. THANK YOU MAYOR. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS AMANDA GRANVILLE WITH THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH ENGAGEMENT DIVISION ALONG WITH COWORKER TRACY SMITH WHO IS JOINING US VIRTUALLY.  I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE HERE BUT SHE IS JOINING US VIRTUALLY. WE'RE EXCITED TO BE HERE TONIGHT TO INTRODUCE BLOOMINGTON PRIDE, MINNESOTA, A NEW NONPROFIT IN OUR COMMUNITY. EARLIER MONTH, BLOOMINGTON PRIDE RECEIVED ITS NONPROFIT STATUS A MILESTONE FOLLOWING YEARS OF RESIDENT DRIVEN EFFORTS. WHAT BEGAN AS A PRIVATE PANDEMIC IDEA TO HOST A LOCAL PRIDE CELEBRATION HAS BLOSSOMED INTO A SUCCESSFUL ANNUAL EVENT. WITH THIS YEAR'S CELEBRATION THEIR FOURTH OF CIVIC PLAZA, THE FOURTH ON CIVIC PLAZA GROUNDS IN THE FIRST TWO YEARS CITY STAFF SUPPORTED RESIDENTS IN ORGANIZING THE EVENT AND IN 2023 TWIN CITIES PRIDE MENTORED THE GROUP TO FOSTER PRIDE YEAR ROUND. THIS YEAR FIVE DEDICATED BLOOMINGTON RESIDENTS TOOK ON LEADERSHIP ROLES TO PLAN THE EVENT AND SECURED NONPROFIT FOR BLOOMINGTON PRIDE. COED IS PROUD TO INTRODUCE THE NEW BOARD OF DIRECTORS WHO HAVE ALREADY SHOWN THEIR COMMITMENT TO OUR COMMUNITY. WITH TWO MEMBERS SERVING ON BLOOMINGTON BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND THREE AS RECENT GRADUATES OF THE 2024 BLOOMINGTON LEADERSHIP PROGRAM THEY BASICALLY GRADUATED SAID GET TO WORK. SO THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THIS NEW NONPROFIT INCLUDE I'M GOING TO INTRODUCE AND THEN YOU GUYS CAN RAISE. STAND UP AND DO YOUR WAVE.  THAT WOULD BE GREAT. SO WE GOT GINA DARGAVILLE WHO IS PRESIDENT ANITA SMITHSON, PUBLIC RELATIONS AND COMMUNICATIONS JASON LOU TREASURER AND AMY KILGORE SECRETARY AND ANNA KORNBLUM COMPLIANCE OFFICER. SO LET'S GIVE A HAND .  I KNOW THAT YOU'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME BUT IF YOU HAVE 67 SECONDS. THE PRESIDENT WOULD LIKE TO SAY QUICK WORD.  ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS. THIS YEAR I SAW SO MANY OF YOU AT OUR EVENT. THANK YOU FOR THAT BIG THANK YOU TO AMANDA AND TRACY SMITH WITHOUT WHOSE HELP WE COULD NOT HAVE HAVE DONE THIS. THIS PAST SUNDAY TWO SUNDAYS AGO THERE WERE OVER 2000 INDIVIDUALS THAT CAME OUT AND CELEBRATED WITH US. WE HAD OVER 50 VENDORS AND THAT'S THE PAST. AND NOW AS WE START TO THINK ABOUT THE FUTURE PRIDE WILL GO THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. WE WILL DO SOME OTHER EVENTS ALWAYS CULMINATING IN A NICE, YOU KNOW, SUMMER OR FALL PRIDE FESTIVAL. BUT AS WE THINK ABOUT THE FUTURE THE FUTURE IS VERY DIGITAL. AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE ALREADY DONE IS WE'VE LAUNCHED A YOUTUBE CHANNEL. IT'S ALREADY HAD 5000 VIEWS. AND SO HELPING EDUCATE NOT JUST THOSE THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON BUT ALSO AROUND THE WORLD BECAUSE IT'S GLOBAL . AND I ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO SUBSCRIBE BECAUSE STARTING TOMORROW IS OCTOBER AND SO OCTOBER IS LGBTQ HISTORY MONTH AND WE WILL HAVE ONE VIDEO.  FINGERS CROSSED EVERY SINGLE DAY CELEBRATING AN LGBTQ INDIVIDUAL. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.  THANK YOU.  WELL, AS SOMEONE WHO HAS SEEN THIS EVOLUTION FROM FROM STANDING A TWIN CITIES PRIDE IN THE BOOTH AT BLOOMINGTON HAD A TWIN PRIDE IN SAYING WHY DON'T WE DO THIS IN BLOOMINGTON TO THE POINT WHERE WE ARE HERE TODAY? IT'S BEEN VERY IMPRESSIVE AND I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU ALL HAVE PUT IN AND THAT FOLKS PRIOR TO YOU HAVE PUT IN AND GOT US TO THIS POINT AND IT'S IT'S INSPIRING WORK AND IT'S IT'S FRANKLY IT'S IMPORTANT WORK AND IT'S OBVIOUSLY WELL RECEIVED WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AND WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR THE WORK THAT YOU'VE PUT IN . GRATEFUL FOR STAFF SUPPORT THAT HAS GONE INTO THIS. GRATEFUL FOR THE WORK THAT TWIN CITIES PRIDE HAS PUT INTO IT AND THE SUPPORT THAT THEY'VE SHOWN. SO WELL WELL DONE AND LOOKING FORWARD TO YOUR CONTINUED WORK AND LOOKING FORWARD TO THE WORK THROUGHOUT THE YEAR AND TO PRIDE NEXT YEAR. SO THANK YOU  COUNSEL NEXT ON THE AGENDA AS WE TALKED ABOUT WHEN WE ADOPTED THE AGENDA WE ARE GOING TO UP A TIMED ITEM SO WE WILL MOVE NOW TO ITEM 4.1. THIS IS A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING ISSUANCE AND SALE OF TAXABLE SALES TAX REVENUE BONDS SERIES 2024 BE LORI ECONOMY SHULER SCHULER CFO IS HERE TO BRING THROUGH THIS. GOOD EVENING. WELCOME. GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL SEE SO TONIGHT ON OUR SALES TAX WE'RE BRINGING YOU OUR FIRST BOND ISSUE FOR THE SALES TAX REVENUE BONDS AND JUST TO HIGHLIGHT THE CITY IS AND HAS RECEIVED FOR THE LAST 20 PLUS YEARS THREE TRIPLE IS FROM THE THREE CREDIT RATING AGENCIES.  IN OUR AUGUST DISCUSSION WITH BAKER TILLY WHEN WE'RE DOING A TAXABLE REVENUE BOND LIKE THIS. WE WILL AND THOSE ARE ALL GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS. WE'RE NOT ISSUING  GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND THIS TYPE SO WE WILL NOT GET A TRIPLE A. THE HIGHEST THAT WE COULD GET IS A DOUBLE A-PLUS. SO WE ARE PREPARING THE CREDIT RATING MATERIALS FOR NEXT WEDNESDAY WHEN WE HAVE OUR CREDIT RATING CALL.  SO HOPEFULLY THE OUTCOME WILL BE A A PLUS AND WE ARE A FIRST TIME WITH A SALES TAX BOND.  SO THIS FIRST ONE WILL BE FOR THE BLOOMINGTON ICE AND WE'VE HAD NUMEROUS CONVERSATIONS WELL WHAT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THIS GARDEN? SO I'M GOING TO JUST KEEP MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT PIECE . WE ARE AUTHORIZED TO SELL UP TO 35 MILLION FOR THE PROJECT PER THE LEGISLATION BUT AS WE GO THROUGH THE SLIDES YOU'LL SEE THAT THE CURRENT AUTHORIZATION AT 34,865,000 BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO BE USING THE THREE MONTHS OF SALES TAX RECEIPTS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED TO DATE TO HELP SET UP THE PIECES OF THIS AND YOU'LL SEE THOSE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES. SO IT BE A 20 YEAR TERM AGAIN SALES TAX BONDS ARE PAID BY THE TAX THAT THORNTON RECEIVES . SO HERE ARE THE THREE MONTHS OF RECEIPTS AND OUR FIRST MONTH WAS FOR APRIL COLLECTION . THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE RECEIVES IT IN MAY AND WE RECEIVED THAT PRETTY MUCH THE 10TH OF EACH MONTH SO WE WON'T KNOW THE JULY AMOUNT NEXT THURSDAY. SO WE WILL BE USING 3,000,005 OR SIX, SEVEN, 89 AND $0.15. AND JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME MATH ON THAT FIRST LINE, THAT'S MILLION 41. IF WE MULTIPLY THAT BY 12 MONTHS WE ARE MAKING OVER THAT 12,000,005 WHICH IS WHAT OUR ESTIMATE IS FOR ALL OF THE BONDS. SO AS THE MONTH GOES UP, IT'S EVEN BETTER FOR US.  SO HERE IS THE CURRENT KIND SETUP THAT WE WILL USE THE 34,000,008 IN BOND PROCEEDS. WE'LL ALSO USE A 3.5 MILLION OF TAX AND THEN THE PROJECT WE WILL BE ABLE TO PUT THAT 35 MILLION THE DEBT SERVICE RESERVE. SO ON A BOND WE HAVE TO HAVE THE DEBT SERVICE RESERVE AND THEN CURRENTLY ESTIMATE IT IS AN UNDERWRITER DISCOUNT COST OF ISSUANCE.  AND JUST THE ROUNDING OF CLERICAL COSTS FOR THE TOTAL USES ALL THOSE NUMBERS WILL SLIGHTLY CHANGE WHEN THE BONDS ARE SOLD A MONTH FROM NOW. SO THE CREDIT RATING CALL IS COMING UP NEXT WEEK AND ON SALE IS ON THE 28TH. WE WILL PROVIDE THE RESULTS OF THAT BOND SALE INFORMATION AT THE COUNCIL MEETING THAT EVENING AND THEN WE WILL RECEIVE THE PROCEEDS A MONTH LATER.  AND THIS WILL PAY FOR BOTH PHASE ONE AND FACE TO FACE ONE. THE BIDS ARE ALREADY BEING COMING ON THE PIECES OF IT BUT SO WILL STAND FOR QUESTIONS. BUT THAT'S THE MOTION JULIE EDINGTON IS ALSO ON REMOTELY IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR A BOND ATTORNEY THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND I WANT TO CLARIFY AGAIN JUST IN CASE THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE BOND CALL GOING TO HAPPEN. THESE ARE SPECIFICALLY SALES TAXABLE SALES TAX REVENUE BONDS AS OPPOSED TO GENERAL OBLIGATION TO DIFFERENT TYPES OF BONDS. AND ON THESE BONDS WE'LL HAVE THE DOUBLE-A PLUS LIKELY HOPEFULLY HOPEFULLY AND OUR OBLIGATION BONDS WE WILL STILL HAVE THAT TRIPLE TRIPLE-A THAT WE'VE HAD FOR THAT IS CORRECT . AND ON THE IS THE ONLY SOURCE OF REVENUE TO PAY FOR THESE IS A SALES TAX. WITHOUT THE GEO THERE'S NO PLANS OF THE CITY'S TAX.  SO VERY SEPARATE TYPES OF BONDS, VERY SEPARATE TYPES OF REVENUE.  VERY GOOD THING. THANKS FOR FOR CLARIFYING THAT. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTOOD THAT THESE ARE TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF BONDS IN TWO DIFFERENT BOND RATINGS AS A RESULT SO IF COUNCIL QUESTIONS ON THIS IT'S EXCITING THAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD ON THE I'M A NICE GARDEN PROJECT.  COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO VERY QUICKLY I WAS DOING THE MATH THAT YOU WERE DOING AS COMMISSIONER OR SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND. SO IF IF THE TREND CONTINUES AND WE SEE ABOUT $1,000,000 A MONTH MAYBE 1,000,003 A MONTH COMING IN OVER THE COURSE OF THAT ARE WE ARE WE ANTICIPATING THEN THAT WE WILL BECAUSE WE HAVE UP TO I THINK IT'S 20 YEARS TO ACCUMULATE RIGHT THAT WE WOULD BE AHEAD OF ACCUMULATED IN THE PLAN AS IT RELATES TO THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE'VE BONDED FOR OR HAVE I GUESS REFERENDA OR REFERENDA WAS 455 MILLION PLUS COST OF ISSUANCE RIGHT THAT SERVICE RESERVE. SO THE NORMAL PIECE THAT WE WOULD THI ABOUT THIS IS WE'VE GOT THREE MONTHS OF HISTORY. WE DON'T HAVE A FULL YEAR. WE DON'T KNOW ALL THE CYCLES.  SO UNTIL WE KNOW MORE WHEN WE'VE LOOKED AT OUR I'LL CALL IT OUR LODGING AND MISSIONS.  THERE ARE VARIABILITY MONTH BY MONTH WHEN PEOPLE BUY PEOPLE GO TO SO WE'RE ON WE ONLY HAVE THREE MONTHS OF DATA RIGHT AND WE HAD IT FOR THEM AND WE HAVE IT FOR THE STRONGEST OF THOSE MONTHS AS IT RELATES TO AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT SO THAT MAKES SENSE. OKAY. SO I UNDERSTAND.  SO JUST TO COMPLETE YOUR THOUGHT ON THAT SHOULD GET ENOUGH REVENUE TO COME IN AND PAY ALL THE DEBT SERVICE, ALL THE INTEREST AND STATE CHECKS THAT BOX THAT WE HAVE IT ALL THEY WILL SHUT IT OFF OFF AND SO THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS. I WOULD LOOK FOR A MOTION.  HAPPY TO MAKE IT. COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO. YES, SIR. SO I MOVE TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE AND SALE OF TAXABLE SALES REVENUE BONDS SERIES 2024 B AND THE PROPOSED AGGREGATE PRINCIPAL OF $34,865,000. SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN THANK YOU TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE AND SALE OF TAXABLE SALES TAX BONDS FOR THE COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES ZERO.  THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.  I WILL DOUBLE BACK ON OUR AGENDA AT COUNCIL AND WE WILL UP OUR CONSENT BUSINESS. COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS HAS OUR CONSENT AGENDA TONIGHT. COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS  AND COUNCILMEMBER FEET IF YOU COULD TURN YOUR MICROPHONE ON PLEASE. THANK YOU. I ALWAYS FORGET THAT AND MY VOICE CARRIES YOU. I MOVE. I DID ITEMS 3.2 3.20 ON TONIGHT'S CONSENT AGENDA AS A COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO IS HOLDING 3.1 SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER TO ADOPT TONIGHT'S CONSENT AGENDA ITEM 3.2 THROUGH 3.24 THE COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSE THE MOTION CARRIES AND 703 HAD A HOLD ON ITEM 3.1 THE LUTHER KING EXPANSION COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. YES. SO THE QUESTION THAT I HAD EARLIER TODAY AND I KNOW WE HEARD FROM MR. COLEMAN IN OUR IN OUR LISTENING SESSION TONIGHT TOO WAS I RECALL CORRECTLY WHEN WENT BACK AND I FEEL LIKE THIS WAS VERY EARLY IN MY TENURE ON COUNCIL BUT WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THE FOR BOTH THE WALSER PROJECT AND THEN ALSO THE POTENTIAL FOR THE ELECTRIC VEHICLE PROJECT AT THE OLD DAYS INSIGHT THERE WAS THIS PUSH TO LOOK AT THE THE NOTION OF THE DENSIFICATION OF THOSE PROPERTIES MEANING THAT WE WANTED THEM TO GARAGES THAT HOUSED THEIR THEIR CARS IN MULTIPLE AND WE THAT WAY WE WOULD HAVE MORE LAND AVAILABILITY AND IT AND IT IT SEEMS AS THOUGH THIS THIS IS NOT FALLING WITHIN DESIRE AND I THINK IT'S BECAUSE OF THAT WHICH PRECEDES MOST OF US ON COUNCIL HERE THIS COMPROMISE SOLUTION THAT WAS MADE AT SOME POINT SAID HEY IF YOU ALREADY EXIST AS A DEALERSHIP PRIOR TO 2015 THAT WON'T APPLY TO YOU.  SO NOW I FEEL LIKE WE'RE A LITTLE BIT OF A BETWEEN A ROCK AND A HARD PLACE HERE IN THE SENSE THAT NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A VERY, VERY POPULAR TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT AREA IN THE PAN AMERICAN.  WE ALREADY DON'T HAVE A PARK AND RIDE FOR THAT 82ND AND KNOX AREA WHICH I DESPERATELY WISH WE HAD AND AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO EXPAND BASICALLY A SURFACE LOT PARKING FACILITY FOR A DEALERSHIP. I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT IN THE SENSE THAT THIS IS WHAT THE ORDINANCE SAYS AND THERE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE ORDINANCE AND THAT'S BEEN APPROVED BY PLANNING AND THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT WE CAN CHANGE ABOUT IT BUT.  THERE'S AN OPEN QUESTION IN MY HEAD ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S SOMETHING WE WANT TO THINK ABOUT GIVEN THE LOCATION OF THIS PARTICULAR AND HOW WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING MORE CREATIVE.  SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT OUR OPTIONS ARE BUT I'D LIKE FOR US TO EXPLORE THEM IF WE CAN. I MR. MARKET GUARD HERE AND MAYBE YOU CAN GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON HOW WE GOT TO THIS AND EXACTLY WHAT THE PARAMETERS ARE AND WHETHER OR NOT THERE IS ARE IF THERE ARE OPTIONS AND AND FRANKLY COUNCILMEMBER NOT SURE THAT THERE ARE BASED ON THE DECISION THAT WAS MADE THESE NINE YEARS AGO. YES. SO. MR. MARK , YOU'RE SURE GOOD EVENING.  THERE WAS A COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO KIND OF WALKING BACK TO 2014 2015. THAT'S WHEN THE CITY BROUGHT FORWARD OF THE AREA AS RECOMMENDED BY THE PANAMERICAN DISTRICT PLAN TO THE C5 DISTRICT.  THERE WAS A LOT OF CONCERN FROM PROPERTY OWNERS AT THAT TIME AND THE COUNCIL EMPLOYEES AND STAFF TO GO BACK AND MAKE SOME MODIFICATIONS THAT WOULD BE MORE AMENABLE TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS. WE HAD A LOT OF MEETINGS, A LOT OF DISCUSSION AND WHAT CAME OUT OF THAT WAS SOME COMPROMISE LANGUAGE WHICH WAS ADDED TO THE CITY CODE AND CAN GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE HIGHLIGHT ON THAT COMPROMISE LANGUAGE OF IF DESIRED IF WE COULD HAVE MR. PARKER GET THE OVERHEAD CAMERA MAYBE ZOOM IN A LITTLE BIT TIGHTER THANK YOU SO A COUPLE OF THINGS WERE ONE THE C FIVE DISTRICT HAS A MINIMUM FLOOR AREA RATIO OF 1.01 OF THE COMPROMISES WAS THAT WAS REDUCED TO 0.6. ANOTHER THING THE DEALERS WERE VERY CONCERNED THAT EXISTING DEALERSHIPS WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO MAKE MODIFICATIONS AND WOULD BE KIND OF STUCK IN THEIR EXISTING CONFIGURATION. SO TO ADDRESS THAT THIS LANGUAGE WAS ADDED TO THE CODE AND IT BASICALLY SAYS THAT THAT FLOOR AREA RATIO COULD BE FURTHER REDUCED AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CITY COUNCIL PROVIDED THE COUNCIL MET THESE FOLLOWING FINDINGS AND JUST HIGHLIGHT THE LEVEL OF DEVIATION AND AGAIN 0.6 AS REQUIRED A 0.23 AS PROPOSED AND THEN 0.9 IS THE EXISTING FLOOR AREA RATIO.  SO THERE IS QUITE AN AMOUNT GROWTH RELATIVE TO THE EXISTING FLOOR AREA RATIO BUT . STILL A LONG WAYS BELOW THAT MINIMUM REQUIRED.  SO THE REQUIRED FINDINGS THERE ARE FOUR OF THEM THE FIRST ONE IS THAT THE PROPOSED MODIFICATIONS DO NOT INCREASE THE PROPORTION OF LAND AREA DEVOTED TO PASSIVE USES RELATIVE TO THE LAND AREA DEVOTED ACTIVE USES THE STAFF FEELS LIKE THAT'S A CHECKMARK. YES CLEARLY THE CASE HERE SECOND ONE THE PROPOSED MODIFICATION WILL RESULT IN AN INCREASE IN ONSITE ACTIVITY. WE FEEL THAT IS ALSO A CHECKMARK. YES. AND THE THIRD BEING THAT THE PROPOSED MODIFICATIONS WILL SUBSTANTIALLY I THINK THAT'S THE KEY TERM SUBSTANTIALLY ADVANCE ANY APPLICABLE ZONING ORDINANCE PROVISIONS FOR AND THEN IT WAS BUNCH OF AREAS INCLUDING BUILDING PLACEMENT AND AND THEN THE FOURTH ONE IS AN OR THAT DOES NOT APPLY IN THIS CASE SO REALLY WE THINK THE KEY FOCUS TONIGHT WOULD BE ON THAT FINDING NUMBER THREE I WOULD SAY STAFF HAS BEEN SUPPORTIVE THROUGHOUT OF THE DEVIATION IN FLOOR RATIO PROVIDED THAT THAT STREET ENCLOSURE ISSUE IS ADDRESSED STAFF PROPOSED A CONDITION OF APPROVAL THAT WAS HEAVILY DISCUSSED AT PLANNING COMMISSION THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID UNANIMOUSLY VOTE TO REMOVE THAT CONDITION OF APPROVAL AND I CAN HIGHLIGHT FOR YOU BRIEFLY THIS IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN.  YOU CAN SEE THE STREET ENCLOSURE ALONG KNOX AVENUE WHICH STAFF HAD RECOMMENDED IS THAT WELL FIRST OF ALL CODE REQUIRES 50% STREET ENCLOSURE ALONG KNOX AVENUE STAFF RECOMMENDED THAT THAT ENCLOSURE BE INCREASED IN THIS CASE TO 47% AND WE SHOWED APPROXIMATELY WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE ON THE GROUND THAT WOULD NOT NECESSARILY NEED BE ADDITIONAL FLOOR SPACE THAT COULD SIMPLY BE A RECONFIGURATION OF THE EXISTING FLOOR SPACE. SO IF YOU THINK OF THIS BEING THE SERVICE AREA IN THIS BEING THE SHOWROOM AND OFFICE AREA RATHER THAN THE SHOWROOM OFFICE AREA BEING MORE OF A SQUARE COULD BE A RECTANGLE FOR EXAMPLE WE'VE HEARD VERY LOUD AND CLEAR FROM THE APPLICANT THEY DO NOT WANT TO DO THAT ARE VERY OPPOSED TO DOING THAT.  SO THAT'S A LITTLE HISTORY ON HOW WE GOT TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY.  COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO IN FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS I GUESS THE THE THE DISCRETION SO I'M GOING BACK TO YOUR YOUR YOUR RECOMMENDATION MR. MARKER AGREED THAT WE FOCUS ON THAT PROVISION NUMBER THREE WHAT I I'M AND JUST TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THE MATH HERE SO RIGHT NOW THEY HAVE A FLOOR AREA RATIO OF OH POINT ZERO NINE THEY ARE PROPOSING IT FOR A RATIO OF 0.23 BUT THE CURRENT CFI REQUIREMENT IS 0.6. DO I HAVE THOSE IN THE RIGHT ORDER IN THERE? OBVIOUSLY COUNCILMEMBER DOUGLAS UNDER THIS GROUP.  OKAY. SO ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT THAT WE AS A COUNCIL CAN REQUIRE THEM TO DO THE POINT SIX BECAUSE IF IF WE FIND HERE THAT THE PROPOSED MODIFICATION WOULD ADVANCE THE APPLICABLE ZONING ORDINANCE PROVISION AND THERE OBVIOUSLY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO CLEARLY THIS FLEXIBILITY IS AT THE COUNCIL'S DISCRETION. SO CAN DO WITH WHAT THE COUNCIL WELL BUT IT'S NOW INITIAL RECOMMENDATION WAS TO ALLOW THE 0.23 FLOOR AREA RATIO WITH GAINING MORE STREET ENCLOSURE WE FELT LIKE THAT WOULD SUBSTANTIALLY ADVANCE THAT ISSUE AND MEET THE INTENT OF THE NEGOTIATED COMPROMISE.  OKAY. IN THE PICTURE THAT YOU SHOWED, I'M STILL ASSUMING THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE THE PARKING SPACE THAT'S IDENTIFIED THERE THE SURFACE PARKING SPACE IS INTENDED FOR STORAGE OF CARS AVAILABLE FOR SALE, IS THAT CORRECT? NEAR COUNCILMEMBER THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. SO IT WOULD BE STORAGE OF SHOW AUTOMOBILES, RIGHT? OKAY. SO I GUESS MY POINT HERE, MR. MAYOR IS NOTHING IS THERE CAN POTENTIALLY SOLVE THE PROBLEM WHICH IS WHAT I'D REALLY LIKE US TO SEE AND WHAT I THINK WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF WE BELIEVE IN THE PAN-AMERICAN VISION IS THAT THAT A BUNCH OF SURFACE PARKING WITH A BUNCH OF CARS IDLY SITTING THERE WAITING TO BE SOLD WE'D HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE THAT DEVELOPED BECAUSE THOSE CARS NOW IN AN ENCLOSED FOUR OR FIVE STORY GARAGE LIKE WE DID FOR WALLS OR AND LIKE WE DID FOR WE WERE PLANNING TO DO AND FOR THE OTHER PLACES WHERE WE HAVE DECIDED TO WORK ON DENSIFY IN THE SHOWROOM.  SO NOT THAT DISSIMILAR TO WHAT RICHFIELD DID WITH THE LAND ROVER AND THE HONDA DEALERSHIPS ALONG 494 ON THE NORTH SIDE. RIGHT SO AND OUR SUBARU DEALERSHIP DID THE SAME WHEN THEY BUILT THEIR ENCLOSURE. SO I GUESS MY MY QUESTION IS THAT ANYBODY PROPOSEDO THE FOLKS AT LUTHER THAT THEY DO THAT INSTEAD AND AND AND DID THAT EVER COME UP I GUESS IS MY QUESTION BECAUSE THAT IS PRIME ESTATE FOR THERANSIT ORIENTED HOUSING AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IN THAT AREA AND . IF THEY IF WE DID AND THEY SAID NO YOU KNOW THAT'S A COMMUNITY QUESTION MORE SO THAN A PLANNING QUESTION BECAUSE ALL YOU'RE HERE TO DO IS TO SAY ARE THEY COMPLYING OR NOT COMPLYING? I GET THAT. BUT MY OPEN QUESTION IS DID WE DID WE TRY THERE WAS A COUNCILMEMBER DALLAS YES.  WE TRIED A LOT. WE HAD MANY, MANY MEETINGS. OKAY YES.  STAFF WAS VERY INTERESTED IN FINDING POTENTIAL OTHER USES FOR EXAMPLE THAT COULD OCCUPY THE SITE. WE HAD A GRAND OPENING THIS WEEK AT ANOTHER DEALERSHIP IN TOWN OR YOU COMBINED CORPORATE OFFICES FOR EXAMPLE WITH WITH THE CAR DEALERSHIP.  I KNOW THAT LUTHER COMPANIES LOOKED HEAVILY AT THAT ISSUE ULTIMATELY THEY DECIDED THAT THAT WAS NOT SOMETHING THEY COULD DO AND THEY FEEL LIKE THEY ARE STRETCHING THE FLOOR AREA AS PROPOSED ON THE AS IT IS FOR THE KIA DEALERSHIP. OKAY .  ALL RIGHT. WELL, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU, MR. MERCURY. MR. MAYOR. I GUESS THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS HERE THERE'S IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THERE'S AN OPTION FOR US TO JOHN YEAH. SORRY COUNCILMEMBER NELSON HAS A POINT AND WHY DON'T YOU FINISH YOUR POINT? YEAH. YEAH, I.  I CAN'T FIND A WAY TO MAKE THIS NOT HAPPEN BY BY OUR CURRENT LAWS CODES BUT WE MAY WANT TO CONSIDER MAYBE THAT PROVISION AFTER NINE YEARS DOESN'T NEED TO APPLY ANYMORE AND WE CONSIDER BRINGING BACK TO COUNCIL FOR SOME VIEW INTO THAT ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE ABOUT AREAS LIKE THIS WHERE WE'RE TRYING ACTIVELY TO DO SOMETHING VERY DIFFERENT I APPRECIATE YOUR YOUR INPUT AND APPRECIATE YOUR YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON THIS. I'LL PROVIDE THE PERSPECTIVE OF BEING ON THE COUNCIL THAT TIME. YEAH THIS WAS A I'LL SAY IT NICELY A VERY CONTENTIOUS ISSUE I BET AND AND I APPRECIATED THAT THE FACT THE FACT THAT THE STAFF AND THE BUSINESS OWNERS ULTIMATELY GOT TO THIS COMPROMISE AND UNDERSTAND NINE YEARS HAS PASSED AND WE'VE SEEN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT IN THIS AREA AND THE GROWTH IN THIS AREA I WOULD BE HESITANT PERSONALLY I'D BE HESITANT TO GO BACK ON AGREEMENT FROM NINE YEARS AGO JUST BECAUSE THE CONDITIONS HAVE CHANGED AND WE THINK THERE MIGHT BE A YOU KNOW, A CARROT THERE THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY GET IF YOU RECALL THE ORANGE LINE WASN'T THERE AT THE TIME AND I MEAN THE TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT WAS OF A DREAM AT THAT POINT AND SO I MEAN FROM A FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF SOMEBODY WHO WAS THERE IN THE DISCUSSION AND COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN COULD BRING IT FORWARD AS WELL I MEAN I JUST I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT IN TERMS OF THE FACT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN FIND A WAY TO TO CHANGE THIS ON THE FLY. AND AS WE SAID AT THE DAIS HERE AND I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD WANT TO GIVEN THE AGREEMENT THAT WAS REACHED NINE YEARS AGO BETWEEN THE CITY STAFF AND THE AND A NUMBER OF THE DIFFERENT FOLKS IN THIS AREA. SO I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU ON THE FLY BUT ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT WE DON'T MAYBE TAKE A LOOK AT REVISITING IT AS WE WE COULD AT LEAST I THINK LOOK AT POSSIBLE MODIFICATION AND UNDERSTANDING THAT, YOU KNOW, AN AGREEMENT WAS MADE NINE YEARS AGO. SURE.  OKAY. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON, THANK YOU, MAYOR.  APPRECIATE COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THOUGHTS?  I WILL JUST SAY THAT I DISAGREE BECAUSE I DO I DO SEE A PATH BECAUSE I DON'T SUPPORT THIS AS AS I SEE IT RIGHT NOW . THE PLAIN LANGUAGE OF IT SAYS MAY AND SAY WE HAVE TO WE AREN'T BOUND TO DO IT. IT SAYS WE MAY IN OUR DISCRETION AND I LOOK THIS AND I DON'T SEE ANYTHING ABOUT IT THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE PAN DISTRICT PLAN.  SECOND OF ALL, I DON'T THINK THAT NOT EVEN GETTING TO 50% OF THE COMPROMISE OF POINTS SIX VERSUS ONE I MEAN EVERY EVERY OTHER PLACE IN SI FIVE HAS TO BE AT A FFR OF ONE. THEY THE COMPROMISE WAS 0.6 THEY DIDN'T EVEN GET HALFWAY THERE.  I DON'T THINK THAT'S SUBSTANTIAL. I DON'T THINK I DON'T THINK THAT'S EVEN CLOSE.  I MEAN BY ITS DEFINITION IT'S NOT EVEN HALF AS I'M HALFWAY AND SO I DON'T SUPPORT THIS AT ALL I THINK IT'S COMPLETELY INCONSISTENT WITH THE VISION OF IT COMPLETELY INCONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE COUNCIL WANTED TO DO FROM MY UNDERSTANDING NINE YEARS AGO I WASN'T THERE BUT THIS WAS A COMPROMISE. THEY DIDN'T REACH EVEN THE COMPROMISE SOLUTION AND SO I DON'T SUPPORT IT AND I THINK WE HAVE MORE THAN ENOUGH IN HERE TO SAY NO.  IT SAYS WE MAY IF WE WANT TO IF THEY DON'T MEAN IT WE MAY DO THAT BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO.  MAY I ASK A QUICK CLARIFICATION? I I THINK I MIGHT HAVE MISUNDERSTOOD THOUGHT THAT THE POINT SIX WAS THE REQUIREMENT OF C FIVE BUT YOU'RE SAYING THAT IT'S THE REQUIREMENT OF THE COMPROMISE SIZE PRIOR TO 2015 OF C FIVE? CORRECT. I BELIEVE I ONE AND I AGREE WITH THAT COMPROMISES POINT SIX OKAY. I MEAN THERE ARE THERE ARE 26% OF C FIVE UNDERSTOOD NOT EVEN THAT HALF OF THE COMPROMISE.  SO I GUESS MR. MAYOR, WHY WOULD WE IN YOUR OPINION GIVEN YOU BEING ON THE COUNCIL AT THE TIME, WHY WOULD YOU CONCEDE THIS COMPROMISE POSITION THAT'S SO BEYOND WHAT YOU WERE WILLING TO COMPROMISE BEFORE IF THE IF THE IF THE IF THE OWNERS THE THE ACTUAL AUTOMOBILE YOU KNOW THE DEALERSHIPS INVOLVED IN THAT COMPROMISE WHY WHY WOULD WE NOT CONSIDER IT GOOD FAITH THAT THEY BRING US SOMETHING THAT'S IN IN CONGRUENCE WITH THE COMPROMISE THEY WERE A PART OF CREATING AGREED AND THAT'S A GOOD POINT COUNCILMEMBER AND APPRECIATE THAT I THINK ALSO I THINK BEYOND THAT THE COMPROMISE THAT WAS MADE NINE YEARS AGO IS THE REALITY OF NINE YEARS SINCE THE REALITY OF TODAY AND THINK WE'LL SEE THAT WHEN WE TALK SOUTH TOWN VERY SOON BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME SIGNIFICANT CONCESSIONS THERE AS WELL BECAUSE COMPROMISES IN THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WERE MADE OR THE ACTIONS AND THE DECISIONS THAT WERE MADE NINE YEARS AGO ABOUT THAT OVERALL COMPLEX I THINK MIGHT NOT BE THE SAME AS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE SEEING WHEN WHEN THE SOUTH TOWN PROPOSAL COMES FORWARD.  SO FROM MY PERSPECTIVE IT'S A IT WAS A COMPROMISE. IT WAS A BASED IN NINE YEARS AGO AND NOW WE LOOK AT THE REALITY OF TODAY AND PERHAPS IT ISN'T QUITE THERE I'M I DON'T KNOW I'M COMFORTABLE WITH IT. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TO SUGGEST AND WE CAN GO BACK AND FORTH ON THIS WHAT I'M GOING TO SUGGEST COUNCIL MEMBERS ONE OF YOU TO PERHAPS PROPOSE A MOTION OF DENIAL.  WE'LL SEE WHERE IT IS AND THEN WE'LL GO FROM THERE.  SO COUNCILMEMBER NELSON YEAH.  BEFORE I MOVE TO DENY IT, I WOULD JUST SAY THAT THE REALITY OF THE SITUATION WE'VE SEEN SIGNIFICANT CONSTRUCTION IN THAT AREA IN NINE YEARS SIGNIFICANT CONSTRUCTION THAT IS CONSIST WITH THE PAN-AMERICAN PLAN AND TO SAY THAT THE REALITY IS IS THAT WE CAN'T DO THAT DEFIES THE REALITY ON THE GROUND IN THAT AREA WE'VE WE'VE APPROVED MULTIPLE PROJECTS IN THAT AREA SOUTH TOWN IS ACTUALLY ANOTHER EXAMPLE I MEAN THEY HAVE THE SPORTS THING THEY HAVE OF THE WHOLE REST OF THE PROJECT TO ROLL OUT AND I THINK WE'LL PUSH THEM TO GET BETTER THEIR PLAN IF THEY'RE HERE TONIGHT WE'LL HEAR THAT FROM THEM SO I WOULD MOVE TO DENY I'M SORRY I DON'T HAVE THE MOTION FROM THE I JUST I'D MOVE TO DENY SORRY IF YOU NEED MORE WORDS I CAN'T SENATOR NELSON IF I COULD PUT WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH SO I'M GOING TO SIMPLY USE YOU'RE GOING TO MOVE TO DENY THE MAJOR REVISIONS TO PRELIMINARY AND FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLANS FOR THE APPROXIMATE 59,000 SQUARE FOOT AUTO DEALERSHIP AS OUTLINED IN ITEM 3.1.  IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE AND THOSE WERE TOTALLY THE WORDS I WAS GOING TO SAY THANK YOU WERE DECLINING TO APPROVE IS WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT? THAT'S YES. OKAY. YES. SECOND WE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND MAYOR AS A AS A POINT OF CLARIFICATION AS I UNDERSTAND THE DISCUSSION IT'S TURNING ON CLAUSE AND FOR THREE HERE AND ON THE OVERHEAD RELATED TO THIS SUBSTANTIALLY ADVANCING IN THE STATEMENT FOR THAT I'M HEARING IS THAT THE COUNCILMEMBERS THE MOTION IN THE SECOND YEAR BELIEVE THAT THAT THE MODIFICATION BEFORE US IS NOT SUBSTANTIALLY ADVANCING IS THAT ACCURATE I'M MORE WEIGH IN ON THE WORD MAY BUT I BET YES I THINK YOU HAVE TO HAVE ONE OF THESE REASONS RIGHT. SO SO YES MISMANAGE RIGHT. WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT DOES NOT SUBSTANTIALLY ADVANCE BECAUSE THEY THEY DENIED TO USE EVEN THE PROVISION THE COMPROMISE PROVISION THAT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT HAD OFFERED TO THEM TO IT THROUGH THE STREETSCAPE. SO VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. THANKS VERY MCWHIRTER QUESTION THANK YOU MAYOR. SO MY QUESTION WOULD BE WHAT HAPPENS IF THE COUNCIL DENIES THIS TONIGHT, MR. MAYOR OBVIOUSLY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER ONE PRACTICAL IMPLICATION ON THAT I BELIEVE THERE'S A TIME FRAME IN WHICH THEY COULD NOT REAPPLY IF IT'S DENIED THIS EVENING.  ANOTHER CONSIDERATION WOULD BE DO YOU WANT TO DENY IT OR,  HAVE STAFF PREPARE A RESOLUTION OF DENIAL AND BRING THAT BACK TO AT A FUTURE MEETING? THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER CLARIFICATION AND I'M SORRY EXPLAIN AGAIN IF YOU COULD GLENDA, DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DENYING IT AS WE'VE LAID IT OUT HERE AND A RESOLUTION OF DENIAL THAT YOU WOULD BRING TO A FUTURE. YES, THERE A THAT TYPICALLY WHEN THERE'S A DENIAL STAFF BRINGS FORWARD A RESOLUTION OF DENIAL THAT HIGHLIGHTS KIND OF ALL OF THE REASONS THAT THE COUNCIL IS DENYING IT WHICH IF THERE WAS A LEGAL CHALLENGE IS HELPFUL GOT IT AND SO WHAT I HEARD YOU SAY IS THAT THE APPLICANT SAID THAT THEY'RE ALREADY KIND OF STRETCHING THEMSELVES TO DO TO MAKE THIS WORK IF WE WERE TO GO BACK AND SAY NO, WE WANT A MULTILEVEL BUILDING AND I DON'T IF I RECALL CORRECTLY THE EXAMPLE WAS GIVEN WAS LIKE THE TOYOTA DEALERSHIP THAT WAS A KIND OF A DIFFERENT SITUATION BECAUSE THEY WERE WANTING TO MERGE THEIR CORPORATE AND THEIR DEALERSHIP LIKE.  IT WAS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY I GUESS I'M MY CONCERN IS THAT WE ARE PLACING LIKE THESE MAYBE WHAT COULD BE UNREALISTIC EXPECTATIONS ON THEM AS A BUSINESS LIKE HOW DO WE KNOW THEY CAN EVEN MAKE SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAPPEN RIGHT? AND SO TO ME IT'S LIKE IT COULD SIT AS IT IS CURRENTLY OR THEY COULD MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO IT.  SO IF WE DENY IT THEN IT MIGHT JUST SIT THERE THE WAY IT IS FOR MANY MORE YEARS OR WE COULD APPROVE IT TONIGHT AND ALTHOUGH IT'S NOT WHAT WE WANT IT TO BE. IT'S STILL SPLIT. I MEAN THEIR DEALERSHIP IS NOT GOING ANYWHERE SO IT COULD BE IMPROVED AND THERE WAS A COUNCILMEMBER CARTER I WOULD SAY THAT'S TRUE. THAT IS DEFINITELY A POSSIBILITY. I DON'T WANT TO PUT WORDS IN THE APPLICANT'S MOUTH THEY ARE HERE TONIGHT AND CERTAINLY COULD ADDRESS COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS.  I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION ON REGARDS TO THREE. HE SAYS THE PROPOSED MODIFICATIONS WILL ADVANCE ANY APPLICABLE ZONING ORDINANCE PROVISIONS.  SO CAN YOU EXPLAIN HOW THIS PROJECT FULFILLS THAT?  IT'S PERFECT, YES.  YEAH. THERE WAS A COUNCILMEMBER REVISED. YEAH SO WE CAN WALK THROUGH THESE ONE BY ONE IF YOU LIKE IN TERMS OF BUILDING PLACEMENT WE HAVE BUILDINGS ARE CLOSER TO THE STREET, PARKING TO THE SIDE AND REAR WITH THE REDEVELOPMENT IN TERMS OF PARKING PLACEMENT VERY SIMILAR IN TERMS OF STREETSCAPE ENHANCEMENTS DEFINITELY A LOT MORE STREET SOME MORE LANDSCAPING FEATURES BENCHES ALONG THE STREET IN TERMS OF BUILDING WE HAVE A LOT MORE WINDOWS IN THE BUILDING AT LEAST ALONG THE STREET FRONTAGES AND TO HELP PROVIDE TRANSPARENCY GUYS ON THE STREET AND AN ATTRACTIVE STREETSCAPE TERMS OF BUILDING HEIGHT IT'S MEETING CODE REQUIREMENTS I BELIEVE A MINIMUM OF 60% OF THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING NEEDS TO RISE TO A HEIGHT OF 25 FEET WHICH ACTUALLY 100% OF IT DOES IN TERMS OF LANDSCAPING THEY'D BE ADDING THINGS LIKE TREES AND ISLANDS A LOT MORE TREES THAN EXIST IN THE CITY TODAY.  SO THOSE WOULD BE THE KEY KEY WAYS WOULD BE ADVANCING THOSE THOSE ITEMS.  AND SO WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS OBVIOUSLY IN BOTH PRO AND CON TRYING TO FIGURE A WAY THROUGH THIS I SEE THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND MR. GRIFFITH IS HERE I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO PERHAPS IF YOU GIVE US A QUICK OVERVIEW MR. GRIFFITH AND CERTAINLY AS YOU BRING UP HERE TELL LEGAL PAN I'M TAKING A QUICK OVERVIEW HERE AND THAT'S FOR ME MAKING NOTES OF EVERYTHING YOU SAY, MR. MAYOR COUNCIL BILL REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT I UNDERSTAND THE COMMENTS BUT BUT YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE CONTEXT THIS IS FOR PARCELS TODAY IS IT FOR BUILDINGS THREE BUILDINGS, CAR DEALERSHIPS, AUTO DEALERS THIS SITE HAS BEEN OWNED BY LUTHER FOR A VERY LONG TIME. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GIVE UP THIS SITE. SO WHAT YOU WILL DO TONIGHT IF IF YOU TURN DOWN THIS APPLICATION IT WAS A VERY COMPLICATED DISCUSSION AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND YET YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION WHO BELIEVES VERY MUCH IN THE PAN AMERICAN DISTRICT VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO SUPPORT THIS APPLICATION. THEY LOOKED AT ALL OF THE THE FINDINGS.  THEY LOOKED AT THE STREET TREES, THEY LOOKED AT THE IMPROVEMENTS, THEY LOOKED AT THE BUILDING PLACEMENT AND THEY ULTIMATELY SAID JOB WELL DONE.  WE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE A MULTI-STORY MULTIFAMILY BUILDING. THIS IS NOT A MIXED BUILDING. YOU CANNOT MAKE A CAR DEALERSHIP INTO A MIXED USE BUILDING. AND SO WHAT WILL HAPPEN TONIGHT IS?  LUTHER COMPANIES WILL GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND THEY'LL LOOK AT HOW TO RENOVATE THOSE BUILDINGS BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GIVE UP THE SPOT THEY CAN'T GIVE UP THIS SPOT IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO LOCATE A DEALERSHIP TODAY AND SO THEY REALLY PRESSED THIS PROJECT AND IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT THE DEALER THEMSELVES REQUIRED,  THEY WENT TWO AND THREE TIMES BEYOND WHAT THE DEALER REQUIRED THEM TO DO.  THE SHOWROOM IS TWO OR THREE TIMES LARGER ALREADY THAN WHAT THE DEALER REQUIRED THEM TO DO THE LANDSCAPING, THE PLANTINGS, THE PLACEMENT OF THE BUILDINGS, THE THE IMAGES WE COULD SHOW YOU THE IMAGES I KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE TIME TONIGHT BUT I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND JUST HOW FAR THIS APPLICANT WENT TO MEET THOSE PENDING AMERICAN DISTRICT STANDARDS AND YES, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A TEN STORY BUILDING. IT'S NOT GOING BE A MIXED USE BUILDING. IT IS ULTIMATELY A CAR DEALERSHIP. BUT WHAT YOU HAVE TO ASK YOURSELF TONIGHT AND I WAS AROUND FOR THOSE HEARINGS AND THEY WERE CONTENTIOUS IT WENT ON FOR FIVE MONTHS FIVE MONTHS OF DISCUSSION TO ULTIMATELY GET TO A COMPROMISE NOT THAT IT BE POINT SIX THAT POINT SIX IS IN CODE THOSE FINDINGS ARE FOR THIS COUNCIL TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FROM POINT SIX TO SOMETHING ELSE BECAUSE THOSE OTHER ISSUES THAT ARE ON THE THAT MR. MARK NYGAARD TALKED ABOUT ARE BEING ADVANCED.  SO THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE TONIGHT. YOU HAVE YOU HAVE A CAR THAT'S GOING TO REDEVELOP FOUR PARCELS OF LAND AND PROVIDE WITH SEWER RIGHT OF WAY FOR YOUR SEWER UPGRADES KNOW YOU HAVE A PROBLEM IN THAT DISTRICT WITH SEWER ONE OF THE PROVISIONS OF THIS ONE OF THE PUBLIC BENEFITS OF THIS APPLICATION IS THAT THAT SEWER RIGHT OF WAY WILL BE PROVIDED TO THE CITY AND WE'LL DO THAT BY MOVING THE BUILDINGS WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED.  THIS PROJECT WILL PROVIDE A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT IN THIS COMMUNITY AND IT WON'T FREEZE THIS PROPERTY IN TIME.  THAT'S WHAT THE COMPROMISE WAS ABOUT. LET'S NOT FREEZE THESE PROPERTIES AND IN PLACE THEY ARE CAR DEALERSHIPS THAT'S.  PART OF THE LEGACY OF BLOOMINGTON YOU'RE AT 494 AND 35 W AND THAT'S HOW WE GOT HERE AND WOULD EVERYBODY LIKE TO HAVE AC5 TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT HERE EVERYBODY BUT MY CLIENT PERHAPS BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO FREEZE THIS SITE IN TIME. THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK AT RENOVATING THOSE EXISTING BUILDINGS AND YOU'RE GOING TO GET SOMETHING VERY DIFFERENT FROM WHAT YOU HAVE HERE.  SO PLEASE DO NOT PUT THEM IN A TIME CAPSULE. THEY HAVE MOVED AS FAR AS THEY CAN POSSIBLY MOVE WITH THIS ORDERED AUTO DEALERSHIP.  IT'S A KIA DEALERSHIP. IT'S NOT A LAND ROVER DEALERSHIP. IT'S NOT A BMW.  IT'S NOT AN AUDI DEALERSHIP. IT'S GOING TO BE ACQUIRED A VERY BEAUTIFUL A DEALERSHIP IN YOUR COMMUNITY AND YOU WILL BE PROUD WHEN YOU SEE WHAT WHAT'S DONE HERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. GRIFFITH.  SO COUNCIL IT GIVES US A PERSPECTIVE OF THE OF THE APPLICANT HERE.  WE'VE GOT A MOTION TO PUT ON THE TABLE AND.  I UNDERSTAND THE IDEA OF A OF A MOTION PREPARING AN ORDINANCE TO KNOW A RESOLUTION EXCUSE ME OF DENIAL IS POSSIBLE THAT WE GET CLARIFICATION ON THIS AND THEN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE RESOLUTION OF DENIAL FOR THE FORMALITY HERE MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS I THINK MAYBE IF THE MOTION OR AMENABLE TO JUST A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT THAT THEY WOULD BE VOTING TO DIRECT STAFF PREPARE FINDINGS FOR DENIAL AND BRING THOSE BACK TO AT A SUBSEQUENT MEETING WORKS FOR ME NOW THAT WILL WORK OKAY SO THE MOTION IS TO THE FRIENDLY MOTION THE FRIENDLY ADDITIONS AMENDMENT IS TO DIRECT STAFF TO PREPARE A OF SAY WORDS AGAINST THEIR FINDINGS OF DENIAL AND BRING IT BACK AT A FUTURE MEETING NEXT MEETING SO SO IN ESSENCE BASICALLY THE NEXT MEETING THERE WOULD BE THIS WOULD BE THE INFORMAL DENIAL THE NEXT MEETING WOULD BE THE FORMAL DENIAL WHERE WE PASSED A RESOLUTION SO THAT TO EVERYBODY.  GOOD QUESTION, MR. MAYOR. SO LET'S ASSUME LET'S SAY THAT THAT DOES NOT PASS THEN SOMEBODY WOULD THEN PICK UP THE EXISTING ORIGINAL MOTION AND MOVE THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. GREAT. THANKS TO HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER NELSON SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO.  EVERYBODY CLEAR ON WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON HERE?  ALL RIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I.  I OPPOSED NO MOTION FAILS 5 TO 2 OR 2 TO 5. HOW WERE WE EFFICIENT? FOUR 2 TO 5. SO WITH THAT ARE BAD COUNCIL I WOULD LOOK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE A MAJOR REVISIONS TO AND FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLANS FOR AN APPROXIMATELY 59,030 SQUARE FOOT AUTO DEALERSHIP FACILITY SUBJECT TO.  THE CONDITIONS OF CODE REQUIREMENTS ATTACHED TO THE STAFF REPORT SO MOVED SAY MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER MOORMAN SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER WYMAN BLANKING NAMES TONIGHT MORE I YEAH I KNOW I KNOW I KNOW WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ITEM 3.1 NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED NO MOTION CARRIES FIVE TWO WITH COUNCILMEMBERS DALLESSANDRO AND NELSON IN OPPOSITION THANK YOU FOR THE CONVERSATION ON THAT THANKS FOR BRINGING THAT FORWARD.  WE WILL MOVE ON IN OUR AGENDA AND THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS FOR, THE CONSENT AGENDA TONIGHT WE ALREADY TOOK CARE OF ITEM 4.1. THERE WAS A TIMELINE AND WE'RE MOVING ON THAT IN 4.2. NOW THIS IS OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING OF THE EVENING. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING SOUTHGATE APARTMENTS AT 8187 12TH AVENUE, SOUTH AND 1001 AND 1101 EAST 80TH STREET. AND WE HAVE WITH US THIS EVENING HAVE FROM OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT EMILY HASBROUCK. GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME.  GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBERS 1/2 .  YEAH. SO WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE YOU IS A REZONING OF FOUR PROPERTIES CALLED SOUTHGATE APARTMENTS AND THEY'LL BE REZONE FROM OUR FOR TWO OUR M TO FOUR.  I WILL WAIT JUST A SECOND TO SHOW YOU THE VISUAL.  YEAH  PERFECT.  THANK YOU OKAY.  YEAH. SO THESE ARE THE FOUR PROPERTIES THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED TO BE RE ZONED AGAIN THEY'RE BEING PROPOSED TO BE REZONE FROM OUR FOUR TO OUR M 24 SOME OF THE SURROUNDING USES ARE SINGLE FAMILY OFFICE TO THE NORTH AND THERE IS SMITH PARK TO THE WEST ALSO THESE PROPERTIES ARE GUIDED HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL WHICH IS TO 150 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.  THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE BREAKDOWN OF THE NUMBER OF UNITS IN EACH BUILDING. IN TOTAL THERE ARE 244 APARTMENTS SPREAD THROUGHOUT THESE FOUR BUILDINGS.  HERE ARE SOME OF THE STANDARDS THE ARM 24 ZONING DISTRICT.  ONE IMPORTANT THING TO KNOW IS THAT AS IT STANDS IN THE R FOUR ZONING DISTRICT THESE ARE NOT IN COMPLIANCE AND MOVING THEM TO THE ARM 24 ZONING DISTRICT WOULD ACTUALLY BRING THEM INTO COMPLIANCE THE DENSITY RANGE AS WELL AS EVERYTHING WITHIN HERE IS CONFORMING WITH ARM 24 STANDARDS SAME WITH THIS TABLE THE STRUCTURE SETBACKS ARE MET THE FLOOR AREA RATIO IS MET IT ALL MATCHES WITH THE ARM 24 DISTRICT AS FAR AS GOES THE PARKING STRUCTURE SETBACKS ARE MET PARKING SPACES IS LESS APPLICABLE THIS REVIEW THAT'S MORE FOR RELATED TO HOW MANY UNITS ARE ACTUALLY WITHIN THE APARTMENT BUILDINGS SO NO SPECIFIC REQUIREMENT FOR A SPECIFIC ZONING DISTRICT AND WITH THAT THE SOUTH GATE APARTMENTS ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE ARM 24 DISTRICT INTENT AND STANDARDS.  THEY ARE ALSO CONSISTENT WITH THE GUIDELINE DESIGNATION OF HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REZONING THE MOTION ON THE NEXT SLIDE THANK YOU THANK YOU COUNSEL QUESTIONS OF MR. SPEC COUNCILMEMBER NELSON THANK YOU MAYOR WHY BY PROACTIVELY REASON THIS IS DEVELOPMENT THAT'S IN PLAN AND LET ME JUST CLEAR ABOUT THE REASON I ASK IS WE PROACTIVELY REZONE SOME PROPERTY IN THE PAST AND THEN WE SAW WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO AND THE COUNCIL DIDN'T LIKE IT AND THEN WE GOT SUED AND WE LOST SO WHY MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER NELSON, LET ME SAY TWO THINGS. ONE IS YES, THERE ARE POTENTIAL FUTURE PLANS TO ADD MORE APARTMENT UNITS LIKE THREE BEDROOM UNITS WITHIN THE APARTMENT BUILDING. SO THAT WOULD CREATE MORE HOUSING AND TWO, IT'S NOT EXACTLY PROACTIVE REZONING BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT IN CONFORMANCE WITH.  THE EXISTING ARE ARE FOR DENSITY STANDARDS SO IT WOULD BE BRINGING THE MORE IN TO DENSITY CONFORMANCE BECAUSE WELL OF COURSE IT SO IF THEY'RE GOING TO BECAUSE THEY HAVE ONE AND TWO BEDROOM NOW AND IF THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A THREE BEDROOM INTO THE EXISTING WOULDN'T THAT REDUCE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT COUNCILMEMBER OR SORRY MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER NELSON THEY ARE PROPING CHANGE SOME OF THE EXISTING LIKE COMMUNITY AREAS THEY DON'T USE INTO APARTMENT UNITS AND SO TO GET TO THE WHY IS THAT WHY THEY NEED TO DO THIS TO DO TO DO THAT CHANGE MAYOR NELSON YES. TO ADD MORE UNITS THEY NEED IT TO BE A DIFFERENT ZONING DISTRICT AS THINGS REASONS NEXT COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS I JUST WANT TO ADD TO THAT I MEAN WHY NOT COME TO US WITH A TRANSPARENT QUESTION THIS IS WHY WE WANT TO DO IT RATHER THAN JUST SAY PROACTIVELY WANT TO CHANGE THE ZONING JUST COME TO US AND SAY WELL YOU WANT TO DO AND WHY YOU WANT TO DO IT AND THINK IT WILL BE A LOT MORE POSITIVE INTERACTION INSTEAD OF ASKING ALL THESE QUESTIONS WE ARE READY WE WILL BE AWARE OF WHY WE'RE TRYING TO CHANGE THIS ZONING I GUESS IT'S A POSSIBLE GOOD SUGGESTION FOR THE FUTURE. YEAH, THANK YOU, COUNSEL.  ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS?  COUNCILMEMBER CARTER AND THEN COUNCILMEMBER NELSON. SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WHEN I READ THE PACKET IT WAS PRETTY CLEAR TO ME THAT THEY WANTED TO INCREASE DENSITY AND THAT WAS THE REASON. SO I GUESS I DON'T WANT IT TO MAKE IT SEEM THAT THE THAT THE APPLICANT WAS TRYING TO LIKE BE DECEITFUL OR NOT TRANSPARENT LIKE IT'S PRETTY CLEAR IN THE PACKET THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO INCREASE FOR HIGHER DENSITY OR THEY'RE TO ADD UNITS. SO I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR FOR THE PUBLIC THANK YOU,  COUNCILMEMBER NELSON. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN RICARDO. THAT'S THAT IS A GOOD CLARIFICATION. I APPRECIATE THAT. I JUST WANT MAKE SURE THAT THERE AREN'T THERE ISN'T SOMETHING I'M MISSING THAT THIS OPENS UP BECAUSE THERE IS SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF PROPERTY I ACTUALLY AM VERY I'D BE FINE WITH LOOKING AT A PROPOSAL TO DEVELOP MORE OF THAT PART THE PROPERTY AND ALL OF THAT. I JUST DIDN'T SEE ALL THAT IN THERE SO I JUST I JUST WANT TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT WHAT WE DO WHEN.  WE OPEN THIS UP BECAUSE WE HAVE STUBBED OUR TOE ON IT IN THE PAST.  NOTHING WRONG WITH BEING CAREFUL.  COUNCILMEMBER I APPRECIATE THAT COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO SORRY.  I APOLOGIZE IF I MISSED THIS PORTION OF IT BUT REALLY QUICKLY DID WE? SO THIS IS JUST ABOUT REZONING IT. THERE'S THERE IS AN EXPECTATION THAT WE ARE TO SEE MORE PROPERTY MORE APARTMENTS BUILT HERE. CORRECT.  WE JUST WENT OVER THAT CONCEPT. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I ASSUMED. I HEARD IT IN THE BACKGROUND. SO THE QUESTION I'M AT THE QUESTION I'M ASKING IS I THINK THAT THERE WAS SOMETHING IN THE PACKET ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THEY WERE THE THERE WAS PROOF OF PARKING RIGHT THAT WAS INVOLVED. IS THERE ANYBODY AT LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY HOUSING ORDINANCE OPTIONS FOR LOW INCOME HOUSING OR YOU KNOW AFFORDABLE HOUSING OPTIONS WITHIN THIS? DID WE TALK ABOUT THAT ALL BECAUSE I'M CURIOUS ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT SOME OF THESE WILL BECOME AFFORDABLE UNITS OR IF THERE'S AN OPTION THAT WE CAN APPROACH THEM ABOUT DOING THAT I, I THINK THE POINT WE'RE DOING NOW IS THE THE ZONING CHANGE I THINK IT'S POSSIBLE IN THE FUTURE AS THEY COME BACK WITH A PROPOSAL THAT COULD BE PART OF IT THE OPPORTUNITY HOUSING ORDINANCE ELEMENTS COULD BE PART OF IT BUT THAT I MEAN THIS IS THIS IS AND HORSE KIND OF STUFF RIGHT NOW I THINK YOU GOT TO DO THE CART FIRST AND THEN THE HORSE LATER. WELL, THE REASON I ASKED ABOUT IT WAS BECAUSE IT THAT THERE WAS THERE WERE THERE WAS A REQUIREMENT FOR PARKING RELATED TO THE ZONING CHANGE. AND SO MY MY POINT BEING WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAYBE COMPROMISE ON PARKING IF WE HAVE AN UPPER OPPORTUNITY HOUSING ORDINANCE THING THERE . AND SO WOULD THAT MAKE IT EASIER FOR US TO MAKE THIS CHANGE IF WE  KNEW THAT WE WERE GOING TO POTENTIALLY GET SOME AFFORDABLE UNITS OUT OF IT? THAT'S WHAT I WAS ULTIMATELY THAT WAS THE REASON FOR MY QUESTION. I UNDERSTOOD AND I AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS ASPECT HAS THAT BEEN DISCUSSED HAVE THEY GOTTEN THAT FAR IN THE PLANS OR MAYOR THAT HAS NOT BEEN DISCUSSED SO FAR. YEAH. OKAY I WOULD ENCOURAGE IT I GUESS, MR. MAYOR, BECAUSE I THINK I AM NOT A FAN OF OF THIS I'M A FAN OF CHANGE BECAUSE I THINK THEY'RE TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING WHICH IS CREATE MORE YOU KNOW POTENTIALLY NOT NATURALLY AFFORDABLE UNITS WHICH IS AWESOME AND THAT'S A GOOD LOCATION FOR IT IF THEY CAN LEVERAGE THAT AWAY CHOSE WE DON'T HAVE TO PUT THEM IN AT RISK OF ANY OF PARKING SITUATION PROBLEM AREA OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT ESPECIALLY SO CLOSE TO SMITH PARK LIKE IT IS I WOULD THINK THAT WOULD BE A PREFERENCE. THANK YOU FOR THE INPUT COUNCILMEMBER YOU'RE WELCOME.  I'M GOING TO SHUT UP NOW. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS?  IF NOT THIS THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING SO I'M AN OPEN TO PUBLIC HEARING NOW SO I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING IT IN 4.2 PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE SOUTH GATE APARTMENTS AT 8180 70/12 AVENUE SOUTH AND 1001 AND 1101 EAST 80TH STREET. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO HIM? 4.2 THIS EVENING NO ONE COMING FORWARD AND INSTALLERS AND IS ANYONE ON THE LINE? MR. MAYOR, THERE'S NOBODY ONLINE. LAST FOR ANYBODY IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS COUNCIL? NO ONE ON THE PHONE. NO ONE COMING FORWARD IN THE CHAMBERS. I WOULD LOOK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC ON ITEM 4.2. SO A SECOND MOTION MAY COUNCILMEMBER LOGAN SACK MY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING IN ITEM 4.2. NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO. COUNCIL ANY QUESTIONS OR ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENT ON.  IF NOT I WOULD LOOK FOR ACTION ON ITEM 4.2 BARREL MOVE A MOTION TO ADOPT AN OR AS TO CREATING A NEWS ONLY USE AND OTHER ZONING REGULATIONS APPLICABLE TO THE PART OF ME ON THE WRONGS WRONG WITH YOUR TO GET BACK TO THE RIGHT ONE HERE I'M READY TO MOVE ON THE SCREEN FRONT OF YOU PROBABLY THE BEST PLACE I BETTER DO THAT BECAUSE I'M READY TO MOVE HERE MAYOR I'LL MOVE TO ADOPT AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING MAP BY REZONING LAND LOCATED AT 1101 EAST 80TH STREET 8070 12TH AVENUE SOUTH 101 EAST 80TH STREET AND 81/112 AVENUE SOUTH IN THE CITY BULLETIN FROM R FOR MULTIPLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO R.M. 24 MULTIPLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SECOND MY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER TO ADOPT THE ORDINANCE AS STATED BY COUNCILMEMBER LOMAN SO ELOQUENTLY AND PERFECTLY SO I'M NOT GOING TO TRY AND REPEAT IT. RELATED ITEM POINT TWO THIS EVENING NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO. COUNCILMEMBER LONG THE SUMMARY PUBLICATION REMOVAL RESOLUTION AUTHORIZE SUMMARY PUBLICATION OF THE ORDINANCE AMENDING ZONING MAP BY REZONING LAND LOCATIONS AT 1101 EAST AREA STREET AT 8070 12TH AVENUE SOUTH 101 EAST 80TH STREET AND 80/112 AVENUE SOUTH IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON FROM R FOUR MULTIPLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO ARM 12 MULTIPLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. SECOND MOST OF MY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER FOR SUMMARY PUBLICATION RELATED ITEM 4.2 NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I OPPOSE THE MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND NOW WE WILL BRING YOU RIGHT BACK FOR ITEM 4.3. THIS IS OUR SECOND PUBLIC HEARING OF THIS EVENING PUBLIC REGARDING OUR CITY CODE AMENDMENTS REGARDING CANNABIS BUSINESS ZONING.  THIS ASPECT GOOD EVENING AGAIN . SO BEFORE YOU TONIGHT I HAVE CHANGES RELATED TO CANNABIS BUSINESSES SPECIFICALLY REGARDING ZONING SO WHAT TONIGHT YOU WON'T BE LOOKING AT THE LICENSING PIECE AND I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THEM BEFORE IN TANDEM BUT TONIGHT SPECIFICALLY Y WILL BE APPROVING THE ZONING USES.  SO LET'S GET STARTED. SO YOU'VE SEEN THE SLIDE MULTIPLE TIMES. SO AGAIN TONIGHT YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE GENERAL ZONING AND PERFORMANCE STANDARDS.  I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT IT IS SCHEDULED ON OCTOBER 28TH FOR THE LICENSING CHANGES TO COME TO COUNCIL HERE ARE THE FIVE BULLET POINTS AND I KIND OF WANT YOU ALL TO FOCUS ON TONIGHT. SO AGAIN THE LICENSING CHANGES ARE NOT INCLUDED GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT ZONING USE TYPES DEFINITIONS, ZONING DISTRICTS AND APPROVAL TYPES, NEW STANDARDS AND DELETIONS FROM THE ZONING CODE . SO THIS TABLE SHOWS BLOOMINGTON'S ZONING USE TYPES IN RELATION TO THE STATE LICENSE TYPE AND THEN ALSO SHOWING ZONING DISTRICTS AND APPROVAL TYPES. SO OF THE STATE LICENSE TYPES DO FALL UNDER EXISTING USES FOR.  EXAMPLE CANNABIS RETAILER. WE ARE GOING TO CONSIDER RETAIL SALES SERVICES BUT AT THE BOTTOM OF THE TABLE YOU CAN SEE THE THREE NEW USE TYPES THAT WE ARE ADDING CANNABIS COMBINATION CANNABIS MANUFACTURER AND CANNABIS TESTING FACILITY.  SO THESE THREE NEW USES WILL BE CONDITIONAL USES IN THE ZONING DISTRICTS AS THEY ARE SHOWN IN THE FAR RIGHT COLUMN . ADDITIONALLY NOT SHOWN IN THIS TABLE THAT WE ALSO ADDED LOW POTENCY HEMP EDIBLE MANUFACTURING IN SPECIFIC WAYS THAT THE STATE SAID THAT WE HAVE TO. SO THE STATE SAID THAT LOW POTENCY HEMP EDIBLE MANUFACTURING IS ALLOWED IN PLACES THAT MAKE THEIR OWN ALCOHOL. SO WE PUT THAT AS A PROVISION WITHIN PLACES THAT ARE LIKE BREWERIES, BREWPUBS,  DISTILLERIES, TAPROOM ETC..  AND THAT IS WITHIN THE ORDINANCE JUST KIND OF LIKE A SMALL SENTENCE IN THERE.  SO THE FOUR NEW DEFINITIONS THAT WE ARE ADDING ARE RELATED TO THE NEW USES OR NEW ADDITIONS TO THE CODE SO LOW POTENCY HEMP MANUFACTURING CANNABIS COMBINATION BUSINESS CANNABIS MANUFACTURE SHARING AND CANNABIS TESTING FACILITY THE USE STANDARDS AGAIN WE'VE SAID THIS FEW TIMES BUT THEY HAVEN'T BEEN FINALIZED BY THE STATE SO WE HAVEN'T MADE THOSE STANDARDS YET AND THE SECTION IN THE CODE IS JUST RESERVED FOR NOW AND WE WILL BRING THOSE BACK AT SOME POINT WHEN THEY BECOME MORE FINALIZED.  AND THEN WE HAVE THE DELETIONS. SO THIS IS DELETING ALL THE PLACES IN CHAPTERS 19 AND 21 THE ZONING CODE WHERE IT REFERENCES MEDICAL MARIJUANA DISTRIBUTION FACILITIES BECAUSE THAT NO LONGER RELEVANT GIVEN THE NEW STATE LAWS AND SO WITH THAT I WILL TAKE QUESTIONS AND THEN I DO HAVE A RECOMMENDATION ON THIS SLIDE.  THANK YOU VERY MUCH COUNSEL QUESTIONS ON THIS THIS NO QUESTIONS.  COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO ONE QUICK QUESTION ABOUT THE COMBINATION.  NO, I THINK IT WAS THE THEY CALLED IT A MICRO-BUSINESS IN A MISERABLE BUSINESS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WE'RE ONLY RECOMMENDING THAT GETS ADDED TO THE T ONE ZONING OR IS THERE A PARTICULAR REASON WHAT CONTAINED KIND OF BUSINESS IS THAT SUCH THAT IT SHOULD ONLY BE LIMITED TO THAT KIND OF ZONE? YEAH.  MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER AND ALSO ANDREW I ADDED MAPS SO YOU CAN SEE SPECIFICALLY OKAY SO YOU CAN SEE THE THAI DISTRICT IS TRANSITIONAL INDUSTRIAL IT'S ON LYNDALE SO IT'S THAT VERY SMALL BLUE PART YOU KIND OF CAN'T EVEN SEE IT IN THIS MAP.  WE DID THAT BECAUSE WE TOOK AREAS THAT HAD LIKE MANUFACTURING RETAIL AND YOU KNOW KIND OF AN MSO OR MICRO-BUSINESS YOU CAN DOORE THINGS. WE WANTED TO COMPARE THOSE USES AND HOW THEY CURRENTLY EXIST AND SEE WHAT ZONING DISTRICTS THEY KIND OF OVERLAP AND FROM THAT INFORMATION WE KIND OF FELL UPON THE TRANSITIONAL INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT.  I GUESS MY QUESTION IS WHAT WHAT IS UNIQUE ABOUT THOSE BUSINESSES THAT WE WOULD BE LIMITED TO JUST THAT DISTRICT AS OPPOSED TO ALL THE OTHER BUSINESSES THAT WERE GIVING MULTIPLE DISTRICT ARE MULTIPLE ZONING DISTRICT OPTIONS. MM HMM. MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO, WHAT'S ABOUT IT IS THAT YOU CAN DO MULTIPLE DIFFERENT THINGS SO AND IN ONE SPOT SO IT'S NOT LIMITED TO JUST MANUFACTURING OR LIMITED TO JUST RETAIL. LIKE YOU CAN HAVE DIFFERENT USES AND SO I THINK THEREFORE WE WANTED TO LIMIT IT MORE BECAUSE OF THE DIVERSITY OF USE AS POSSIBLE IN ONE SPOT . OKAY. SO IN OTHER WORDS IF WE HAD A AND IF WE HAD A MANUFACTURING FACILITY OUTSIDE OF THIS AREA AND THEY WANTED TO PUT A RETAIL STOREFRONT ON IT, THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DO THAT EXCEPT IF IT WAS IN THIS LITTLE AREA RIGHT HERE. CORRECT.  MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO. WITHIN THAT LICENSE?  NO, THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO. OKAY. SO I GUESS MY I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S OVER LIMITING BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S RELATIVE. WE CAN ALWAYS CHANGE IT LATER. I GUESS.  THANKS. COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN JUST A QUICK QUESTION. ON THE CORRESPONDENCE FROM THE ADVISORY BOARD OF HEALTH I MEAN THAT IS NOT WHAT'S THE DISCUSSION? I JUST WANT TO BE SURE WE'LL GET NEXT.  ANY OTHERS?  ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.  GO TOO FAR. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND IN 4.3 A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING CITY CODE AMENDMENTS THE CANNABIS BUSINESS ZONING PROVISIONS ANYONE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS WISHING TO SPEAK TO ITEM 4.3 THIS EVENING . SALZMAN ANYONE ON THE PHONE? MR. MAYOR THERE'S NOBODY ON MY LAST CALL FOR ANYBODY IN THE CHAMBERS, COUNSEL NO ONE IN THE CHAMBERS COMING FORWARD. NO ONE ON THE PHONE WISHING TO SPEAK TO THEM. 4.3 I WOULD LOOK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THAT IN 4.30 MOVED SECOND MOST OF MY COUNCILMEMBER SECOND MY COUNCILMEMBER LONG AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY SAYING I OPPOSED THE MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN 4.3 ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS COUNCIL ANY OTHER QUESTIONS CONCERNS? COMMENTS COUNCILMEMBER NELSON YEAH THANKS MAYOR APOLOGIZE FOR THIS QUESTION BUT I GET CONFUSED BY COUNCILMEMBER.  QUESTION SO THE ONLY PLACE YOU COULD ACTUALLY MANAGE FACTURE AND SELL IS IN THAT ONE DISTRICT AND THE REASON I ASK THAT IS THERE'S SEVERAL OTHER AREAS WHERE YOU COULD BREW BEER AND SELL IT AND I GUESS WHY THE INCONSISTENCY BETWEEN THERE'S A SAFETY OR SOME OTHER ISSUE WHY YOU COULDN'T DO THE SAME THING WE WOULD FOR A A BREWERY OR TAPROOM SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE SO MAYBE A MISUNDERSTANDING JUST FROM WHAT COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO SAID I DID THE CONFUSION MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMB THAT'S A FAIR QUESTION. SO I KIND OF GOT STUCK ON THE MANUFACTURING AND RETAILING BUT ALSO AN ADDITION THEY CAN PRACTICE CULTIVATION, MANUFACTURING, PURCHASING, PROCESSING AND SALE.  SO THERE'S KIND OF JUST A WIDE VARIETY AND I THINK WE WANTED TO SAY ON THE SAFE SIDE WHICH IS YEAH. YES, EXACTLY THANK YOU. ANY ADDITIONAL COUNCIL IF NOT COUNCIL I WOULD LOOK FOR ACTION ON AND 4.3 THIS EVENING COUNCILMEMBER THE MAYOR I'D MOVE TO ADOPT AN ORDINANCE CREATING A NEW ZONING USES AND OTHER ZONING REGULATIONS APPLICABLE TO CANNABIS BUSINESSES THEREBY CHAPTERS 19 AND 21 OF THE CITY CODE . SECOND MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER MOUA SACRAMENTO COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN TO ADOPT THE ORDINANCE CREATING NEW ZONING USES AND OTHER ZONING REGULATIONS APPLICABLE APPLICABLE TO CANNABIS BUSINESSES NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SIX ONE WITH COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS IN OPPOSITION.  COUNCILMEMBER SUMMARY PUBLICATION YES I MOVE I MAKE A MOTION TO A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING SUMMARY PUBLICATION OF AN ORDINANCE CREATING NEW ZONING USES AND OTHER ZONING REGULATIONS APPLICABLE TO CANNABIS BUSINESSES THEREBY AMENDING CHAPTERS 19 AND 21 OF THE CITY CODE . SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN FOR SUMMARY PUBLICATION ENDED IN 4.3.  NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANKS FOR STICKING WITH US THIS.  MOVED ITEM 4.4 OUR NEXT HEARING ON THE AGENDA. THIS REGARDING AN AIRPORT PARKING MORATORIUM AND WE HAVE MR. MURPHY A PLANNING AND KEVIN TASKER, OUR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY WILL LEAD US THROUGH THIS. GOOD EVENING.  WELCOME. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS TONIGHT WHICH I HAVE BEFORE YOU IS PROPOSED PLAN IF I COULD ASK YOU TO GET INTO THE MIC A LITTLE BIT A LITTLE BIT CLOSER. THERE WE GO. HOW'S THAT? MUCH BETTER. THANK YOU, SIR. YES. SO TONIGHT WE HAVE BEFORE YOU IS A PROPOSAL TO ENACT A MORATORIUM ON AND BEGIN A STUDY OF AIRPORT PARKING FACILITIES.  THIS MORATORIUM WOULD BE EFFECTIVE UP TO 12 MONTHS OR UNTIL THE STUDY IS COMPLETE AND ANY RELATED CODE AMENDMENTS ARE ADOPTED IN TERMS OF WHY A MORATORIUM. BACK IN SEPTEMBER 9TH CITY COUNCIL HAD SOME DISCUSSION ON THIS ISSUE AND REQUESTED FURTHER STUDY OF AIRPORT PARKING FACILITIES.  WE ARE ALSO AWARE THAT THERE HAVE BEEN MULTIPLE DISCUSSIONS OF PRIVATELY INITIATED CODE AMENDMENTS AND HAVING A MORATORIUM PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES REALLY IN A COMPREHENSIV MANNER AND NOT BE IN A REACTIVE MODE RESPONDING TO THOSE PRIVATELY CODE AMENDMENTS.  TERMS OF THE STUDY WE'RE PROPOSING THAT WOULD INCLUDE A VARIETY OF COMPONENTS. WE'RE PROPOSING THAT WOULD START IMMEDIATELY AND INCLUDE OUTREACH WITH VARIOUS OPERATORS. WE WOULD LOOK INTO WHERE USE IS OCCURRING ESPECIALLY AT HOTEL PROPERTIES.  WE WOULD TALK ABOUT EXPANSION OF AIRPORT PARKING IS PROPOSED IN THE COMMUNITY AND THE COMPATIBILITY OF THOSE POTENTIAL LOCATIONS.  WE WOULD LOOK AT HOW OTHER CITIES REGULATE THIS LAND USE THE POTENTIAL NEED FOR ADDITIONAL STANDARDS OR DESIGN CRITERIA WHICH COULD RESULT IN A CITY CODE AMENDMENTS.  SO WHAT MR. STARSKY TALK ABOUT SOME LEGAL CONSIDERATIONS. SURE.  GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING.  WHICH I THINK I THINK YOU JUST SAID.  OKAY. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS KEVIN TASK ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY. JUST TO KIND OF GROUND US IN THE LEGAL AUTHORITY TO DO THIS, IT'S IN THE MUNICIPAL PLANNING ACT FOR 62.355 SUBDIVISION FOUR. SO THERE'S EXPLICIT AUTHORITY TO ENACT A MORATORIUM FOR THE PROCESS THAT'S IN STATE LAW. SO CITIES DO THESE FOR A VARIETY REASONS.  SEVERAL CITIES DID THEM FOR CANNABIS MOST RECENTLY THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON MOST RECENTLY DID ONE IN 2020 ON SELF-STORAGE FACILITIES. SO THE SIMILAR PROCESS BEING FOLLOWED HERE SO THE APPLICATION IS TO CITYWIDE TO AIRPORT PARKING LANDSES AIRPORT PARKING FACILITIES WE CAN GO UP TO ONE YEAR ACCORDING TO STATE LAW SO UNCIL LIFTS IT EARLIER SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE THE TERM MIGHT BE ON THE STUDY BUT WE'LL GET STARTED THAT AND THEN CAN BE LIFTED EARLIER IN 2020 THE THE SELF-STORAGE MORATORIUM WENT EFFECT JUNE 20TH AND WAS LIFTED THE FOLLOWING MAY SO THAT WAS WITHIN THE YEAR.  THE PROHIBITIONS ARE THE ESTABLISHMENT OF ANY NEW AIRPORT PARKING FACILITIES.  THE CITY AND CITY WILL NOT ACCEPT OR ACT IN THE APPLICATIONS OR REQUESTS RELATED TO AIRPORT PARKING FACITIES DURING THAT MORATORIUM PERIOD.  WE WILL ALSO PUT IT IN WRITING THAT WE WILL NOT TAKEN ANY ENFORCEMENT ON CURRENTLY EXISTING AIRPORT PARKING FACILITY USES. SO ACTUALLY IN THE ORDINANCE AND WE'RE COMMITTING TO THAT NOT DOING ANY ENFORCEMENT DURING THIS PERIOD EITHER. AND THEN THERE IS AN EXCEPTION FOR REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE ON THE CURRENTLY EXISTING AIRPORT PARKING FACILITY USES. SO OUR REPAIR MAINTENANCE ACTIONS ARE ALLOWED DURING THIS PERIOD.  WHY A RESOLUTION THAT MAKES THE MORATORIUM EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY AUTHORIZES IT STUDY. SO YOU'LL SEE THAT THE RESOLUTION THE MOTION FOR THE RESOLUTION COMES FIRST AND THAT'S BECAUSE IT AUTHORIZES THE STUDY.  YOU HAVE TO DO THAT TO GET TO THE ORDINANCE. SO THAT'S WHY WE DO THAT. THEN I TALKED ABOUT THE PAST MORATORIUM WAS WITH SELF-STORAGE FACILITIES AND WE ARE FOLLOWING THE SIMILAR PROCESS THAT WE DID BACK THEN IT ACTUALLY AMEND CITY CODE AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK WITH A NEW ORDINANCE TO TAKE THE MORATORIUM OUT OF CITY CODE THEN WHATEVER AMENDMENTS THERE MIGHT BE TO CITY CODE AFTER THAT THAT'S OUR PROCESS GOING FORWARD.  SO IN SUMMARY, STAFF DOES RECOMMEND ADOPTION OF THE MORATORIUM. WE HAVE THREE MOTIONS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT. THE FIRST WOULD ORDER COMMENCEMENT OF A PLANNING STUDY THAT'S A RESOLUTION. THE SECOND AN ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING THE MORATORIUM AND THEN THIRD RESOLUTION DIRECTING SUMMARY PUBLICATION . WE'RE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.  ANY QUESTIONS?  NO QUESTIONS ON THIS.  VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN. DON'T GO FAR. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND I WILL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING IT ENDED 4.4 HOUR AIRPORT PARKING FACILITIES MORATORIUM AND I THINK THIS WILL BE THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING WHERE WE ACTUALLY HAVE FOLKS SPEAKING. AND SO I DIDN'T MENTION IN OUR EARLIER PUBLIC HEARINGS WHAT WE DO IS LIMIT COMMENT TO 5 MINUTES EACH AS DESIGNATED BY THE SHOT CLOCK ON THE WALL AND WHEN IT HITS ZERO I WILL CUT YOU OFF NOT BECAUSE I MEAN BUT BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME AND WE DON'T WHEN FOLKS GO OVER TIME AND SO THAT THAT WILL BE THE PLAN AS WE FORWARD.  WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL DURING THIS PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 4.4.4  AND IF YOU COULD IDENTIFY YOURSELF AND SIGN IN . MY NAME IS ROBERT COLEMAN .  HI. SO I WAS IT DOESN'T IT'S KIND OF HARD TO SAY WHETHER I THINK THAT THIS IS A GOOD IDEA BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE THE PLANS FOR LIKE WHAT WHAT POTENTIALLY COULD BE CHANGED ABOUT THE THE CITY'S POLICY RELATING TO REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING BECAUSE INDIA I THINK THE WHAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY IS A IS A GOOD IDEA THAT THESE SHOULD BE PHASED OUT IN THE PLACES WHERE WE TO HAVE THE HIGH DENSITY REDEVELOPMENTS A I THINK WATCHING SOME OF THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS I REMEMBER PARK AND FLY CAME THROUGH AND WANTED AN EXTENSION TO THEIR DEVELOPMENT TIMELINE. THEY WERE FOR ONE YEAR BECAUSE OF THE MARKET CONDITIONS THEY WENT THROUGH THE NORMAL TO GET THAT EXTENSION AND IT WAS APPROVED AND I REMEMBER BEING OVER HERE AH WHEN PARKING GO THROUGH AND THE VIBE WAS VERY DIFFERENT IN TERMS OF PARKING GO NUTS FOLLOWING THE DEADLINES AND WANTING AND INSTEAD WANTING TO CHANGE THE RULES RELATING TO HOW REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING IS GOING TO BE PHASED OUT INSTEAD OF JUST YOU KNOW, GETTING THAT YOU KNOW GETTING A ONE YEAR EXTENSION. SINCE THEN THERE HAS BEEN A FED RATE CUT AND IT IT WAS A LITTLE CONFUSING LISTENING TO BECAUSE I I BASED ON WHAT THE THE THE REPRESENTATIVE OF PARKING GO SAID DURING THAT MEETING IT I'M ASSUMING THAT THIS IS THE THAT THIS IS THE CULMINATION OF THOSE EFFORTS IT DOESN'T REALLY FEEL LIKE THAT SITUATION SHOULD SHOULD RESULT IN A CHANGE IN THE POLICY THE CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE FROM WHEN I WCHED THAT DISCUSSION IT WAS MOSTLY IT SEEMED LIKE INTERNAL OFFICE POLITICS AND NOT REALLY SOMETHING RELATED TO THE THE APPLICATION OF CITY CODE BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT PARK AND FLY YOU KNOW THEY WENT THROUGH THE NORMAL METHODS AND THEN PARKING GO THEY DIDN'T THEY DIDN'T MEET DEADLINES THEY PAY THEIR FINE AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THAT WAS REJECTED AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE SAID BY THE WERE CONFUSING BECAUSE YOU KNOW STUFF LIKE WE CAN'T MAKE THE WE CAN'T MAKE OUR REDEVELOPMENT MAKE SENSE WITHOUT HAVING YOU KNOW THE AIRPORT PARKING IN THE THE BASEMENT LIKE THERE'S NO WAY THAT THEY CAN MAKE IT WORK WITHOUT THE CASH IN THE BASEMENT. BUT EVEN THOUGH WE SEE DOWN THE BLOCK RIGHT NEXT DOOR HOTELS MULTIFAMILY RIGHT THERE DOING JUST FINE IT SEEMS LIKE, YOU KNOW, BUILT AND FUNCTIONING FINE AND IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT'S HARD SAY WHETHER IT'S A GOOD IDEA IF WE DON'T KNOW WHETHER WE'RE GOING BE STRENGTHENING THE THE PHASING OUT AIRPORT PARKING IN THESE LOCATIONS VERSUS IF WE'RE WEAKENING IT IF WE'RE WEAKENING IT, THEN I DON'T THINK THIS IS A GOOD IDEA AT ALL BUT IT'S TO SAY I THINK YOU.  THANK YOU, MR. COLEMAN FOR PLAYING WHAT IT 4.4 OTHERS WISHING TO SPEAK TONIGHT  MR. ALDERMAN IS THERE ANYONE IN THE LINE RIGHT NOW?  MR. MAYOR THERE IS SOMEBODY ON LINE A JUSTIN EMMA BUT I'M NOT SURE WHAT AGENDA ITEM JUSTIN IS HERE FOR SO JUSTIN IF YOU CAN HEAR ME CAN YOU LET ME KNOW WHAT ITEM YOU'RE HERE FOR ? JUSTIN ARE YOU ABLE TO TO HEAR THE PROCEEDINGS TONIGHT?  DO THEY KNOW HOW TO UNMUTE? I THAT ISSUE LAST WEEK I THINK IT'S OH ALL RIGHT WE TRY AND GET THAT STRAIGHTENED AWAY. OH OH YEAH THERE WE GO MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS SO THANK YOU.  UM, I WAS ON FOR A CONSENT ITEM NUMBERS THREE. OH OKAY. SO WE WE ARE PAST THAT YOU UNDERSTAND WE'RE PAST THAT WORD. YEAH YEP YEP YEP. THAT'S GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.  ANYONE ELSE IN THE CHAMBER IS WISHING TO SPEAK ON IN 4.4 THIS EVENING IF NOT COUNCIL NO ONE ON THE PHONE NO ONE IN THE CHAMBER IS COMING FORWARD. I LOOK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING IN ITEM 4.4 SO MOTION MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT ITEM 4.4 NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO SO I WILL SAY COUNCIL I THINK THIS IS A IS A GOOD STEP AND I'M NOT A HUGE FAN OF MORATORIUMS TO BE HONEST BUT I THINK THIS IS A THE RIGHT STEP IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE. IT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THIS AS MR. MURPHY HAD SAID, AS A MORE COMPREHENSIVE RATHER THAN TRYING TO DEAL WITH THESE ONE OFFS AND THESE INDIVIDUALS COMING FORWARD AND TO DURMAN TO DETERMINE SOME CONSISTENCY IN WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO AND TO FIGURE OUT ULTIMATELY AS ACTUALLY MR. COLEMAN WHAT THE GOAL IS, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH, WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH ALL OF THIS I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO LEARNING MORE ABOUT THE STUDY AND SEEING HOW THE STUDY IS PUT TOGETHER AND WHAT STAFF IS GOING TO BRING TOGETHER ON ALL OF THIS. BUT I DO THINK THIS IS PROBABLY THIS IS THE WAY TO GO RIGHT NOW ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING ALL THE THE MOVING PARTS THAT WE HAVE AROUND OUR OFF AIRPORT PARKING IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON RIGHT NOW. COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I AGREE WITH THAT. I'M JUST I THINK I ASKED THIS QUESTION BEFORE AND MAYBE MAYBE HAVE MORE CLARITY ON IT NOW SINCE THIS CAME BACK TO COUNCIL WE DIDN'T HAVE THIS IN THE WORK PLAN FOR THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.  AND SO I'M CURIOUS ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE INSERTING THAT'S A BIG PROJECT, THE SMALL PROJECT. WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO STOP DOING TO THIS INSTEAD ETC.? DO WE HAVE ANY VISIBILITY INTO THAT? THANKS MR. MARK ANTHONY ANY THOUGHTS NOW THAT YOU'VE HAD SOME TIME TO THINK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT WHERE THIS FITS INTO THE STAFF CAPACITY IN PLANNING STAFF YES. MR. MAYOR COUNCILMAN BURR YOU'RE RIGHT. IT'S NOT ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION WORK PLAN SO WE DON'T HAVE TIME ALLOTTED FOR IT.  WHAT WE PLAN ON DOING IS BEGINNING SOME INITIAL COMPONENTS THE STUDY AND THEN DOING STILL MORE WORK IN 2025 WE WOULD ADD IT PROPOSED ADD IT TO 2025 PLANNING COMMISSION WORK PLAN WE THINK THERE'S SOME THINGS WE CAN DO IT STILL IN 2024 BY SHIFTING SOME THINGS AROUND SO BASICALLY SOME WORK DONE IN THE NEXT 90 DAYS WITH THAT WHERE YOU'RE ABLE TO BUT THEN MAKE IT PART OF THE 2025 WORK PLAN AS FOR AND APPROPRIATE APPROPRIATE THE TIME IS AS NEEDED.  THAT'S CORRECT COUNCILMAN COMFORTABLE WITH THAT COUNCILMEMBER YES, ASSUMING ASSUMING IT'S MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BE PROPOSED TO US. YES, THAT SOUNDS GREAT. THANKS, COUNCILMEMBER NELSON. YEAH, THANK YOU. MAYOR.  SO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY QUICKLY SO WE HAVE THE AT PARK AND GO THAT THEY WERE OUT OF COMPLIANCE AND THE SORT OF TOLLS THAT UNTIL WE GET BACK WHAT HAPPENS AFTER WE DO THOSE BECAUSE I MEAN JUST MAKING THE ASSUMPTION THAT NOT GOING TO ABANDON THE IDEA OF AIRPORT PARKING BEING TEMPORARY AND THAT WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT THE STUDY IS GOING TO LOOK AT AND HOW WE DEAL WITH THAT. BUT WHAT HAPPENS ON DAY ONE AFTER WE LIFT THE MORATORIUM PASS THE NEW ORDINANCE ARE THEY AUTOMATICALLY ASSUMING NOT TOO DIFFERENT FROM THIS OR ASSUMING IT'S NOT JUST YOU CAN THAT? MR. FERRARA I GUESS MY BIGGEST THING IS I ENCOURAGE THEM TO KEEP WORKING TOWARDS COMING INTO COMPLIANCE WITH WHAT THE RULES WERE PREVIOUSLY AND YOU KNOW, GET THE PLAN IN WORK WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND THEN GET THE PROJECT MOVING FORWARD AND I JUST DON'T WANT THIS TO BE A REASON TO SLOW DOWN. MR. FERBER MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, COUNCILMEMBER NELSON, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT AT THE END OF THE QUESTION AS ACTUALLY WHAT I UNDERSTAND TO BE THE THE THE PRIORITY FROM YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS HERE. RIGHT BECAUSE YOUR QUESTION WOULD SORT OF PRESUME THE OUTCOME OF THE STUDY AND I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT RIGHT. SO THAT WAS MY CHALLENGE IN COMING UP DESCRIBE TO YOU WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN ON DAY ONE AFTER WE TERMINATE THE MORATORIUM AND ADOPT AN ORDINANCE SO SO I THINK YOU DID A FINE JOB OF JUST EXPLAINING WHERE WE WERE THE LAY OF THE LAND IS TODAY AND YOU KNOW WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH ALL THE INTERESTS IN THE DISTRICT BUT THANK YOU OTHER QUESTIONS COUNCIL COUNCILMEMBER NELSON JUST I'M CURIOUS HOW MANY CURRENT PARKING FACILITIES ARE DO WE HAVE TODAY VERSUS DO WE HAVE ANY THAT BEING PROPOSED THAT ARE IN FLIGHT RIGHT NOW THAT ARE GOING TO BE IMPACTED BY THIS MORATORIUM? MR.. MR. BERGER. MR. MURPHY I DIDN'T START WITH MY RECORD AS MAYOR AND WE HAVE TWO EXISTING REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING FACILITIES.  THERE IS DISCUSSION BY PRIVATE PARTIES ON ADDITIONAL POTENTIAL APPLICATIONS AND THEN ON THE HOTEL AIRPORT PARKING WE HAVE ONE THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED AND IS LEGAL AND THEN HAVE SEVERAL OTHERS. WE BELIEVE IN THE COMMUNITY THROUGH ADVERTISEMENT THAT ARE DOING THAT AS WELL HOTEL AIRPORT PARKING I THINK SEVERAL IS A GENEROUS UNDERSTATEMENT AND I THINK ALL TAKES IS TO GO INTO THE HOTEL PARKING LOTS AFTER SNOWFALL AND SEE THE CARS THAT ARE PLOWED IN . BASICALLY THEY HAVEN'T MOVED.  IT'S IT'S PRETTY EASY TO SEE. COUNCILMEMBER WOMAN WELL I JUST WANTED TO SAY I APPRECIATE YOUR YOUR PASSION AROUND THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE AND YOUR CONCERN ABOUT THIS FOR FOR SEVERAL YEARS I KNOW WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET THIS ONE RESOLVED.  I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO MOVE THIS YOURSELF.  I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S QUESTIONS ARE ANSWERED AND THEN I SEE EVERY QUESTION I WOULD LOOK FOR MOTION. I WOULD LOOK FOR ACTION ON ITEM 4.4.  WELL, I GUESS I'LL REMEMBER LOLA WANTED TO TAKE AN IF YOU GOT A QUESTION ON THE OH GO AHEAD WITH THIS THING IT'S ON THE ARE WE DOING THIS ONE AT A TIME OR ONE AT A TIME? OKAY I CAN'T DO IT ALL TOGETHER. OKAY OR OR I'LL MOVE A RESOLUTION COMMENCING A PLANNING STUDY ASSESSING THE NEED FOR AN AMENDMENT TO THE OFFICIAL CONTROLS AND A MORATORIUM ON LAND USE WITHIN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON RELATED AIRPORT PARKING FACILITIES SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER MOUA TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION COMMENCING A PLANNING ASSESSING THE NEED FOR AN AMENDMENT TO THE CITY'S OFFICIAL CONTROLS AND A MORATORIUM ON LAND USE ACTIONS WITHIN THE CITY RELATED TO AIRPORT FACILITIES.  NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO COUNCILMEMBER LOGAN BARROW MOVED INTERIM ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING A MORATORIUM ON LAND USE ACTIONS WITHIN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON RELATED PARKING FACILITIES PENDING COMPLETION OF A PLANNING ASSESSING THE NEED FOR AN AMENDMENT TO THE CITY'S OFFICIAL THUS AMENDING CHAPTER 21 OF THE CITY CODE SAYING THE MOTION MY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SECOND COUNCILMEMBER ADOPTING AN INTERIM ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING A MORATORIUM NOR FOR THE COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO. COUNCIL MEMBER WOMAN I'LL MOVE A RESOLUTION DIRECTING SUMMARY PUBLICATION OF THE ORDINANCE INTERIM ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING A MORATORIUM ON LAND USE ACTIONS THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON RELATED TO AIRPORT PARKING FACILITIES PENDING OF A PLANNING STUDY ASSESSING THE NEED FOR AN AMENDMENT TO THE CITY'S OFFICIAL CONTROLS THUS AMENDING CHAPTER 21 OF THE CITY CODE OF MOTION MY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SECOND MY COUNCILMEMBER FOR SUMMARY PUBLICATION ON AN M 4.4 NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE BY SAYING I OPPOSE THE MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO. THANK YOU MUCH STAFF ON THIS ONE THIS IS I KNOW KIND OF CAME AT YOU FAST OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS AND I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT HAS GONE INTO THIS TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN AND LOOKING FORWARD TO THE STUDY THAT'S GOING TO BE ON THE OTHER SIDE THIS AND BE INTERESTED TO SEE WHERE WE END UP SO THANKS SO MUCH FOR THIS . WE WILL MAKE WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM 4.5 OUR FINAL PUBLIC HEARING OF THE EVENING THIS REGARDING TOWN PARTIAL REDEVELOPMENT AT 7803 PENN AVENUE SOUTH MR. CENTENARIO GOOD EVENING WELCOME. YOUR TEAM'S MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS DO HAVE PRESENTATION FOR YOU .  GREAT. THANK YOU. SO THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR YOU TONIGHT RELATES TO PARTIAL REDEVELOPMENT FOR A CERTAIN SHOPPING CENTER AT 1703 PAN AVENUE SOUTH AND WE'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH OF THE SOUTH SIDE SHOPPING CENTER. IT IS A VERY LARGE OF LAND THAT REPRESENTS A TREMENDOUS DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY.  THE OWNER AND APPLICANT CROSS ANDERSON HAS DEMOLISHED QUITE A BIT OF BUILDING THAT HOUSED HERB BURGERS AND TOYS R US AND SO THIS IMAGE SHOWS THOSE BUILDINGS BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT IF YOU DRIVE OUT THERE TODAY THOSE THOSE ARE NO LONGER THERE.  IN ADDITION TO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING ON THIS GRAPHIC, SOME ADDITIONAL DEMOLITION WOULD TAKE PLACE TO IMPLEMENT THE PLANS THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING.  SO WHEN WE HAVE MULTI-PHASED WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT PLANS IF YOU WILL. WE HAVE A PDP THAT STANDS FOR PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT'S REALLY WHAT THE PLAN IS AT FULL BUILDOUT AND THEN WE HAVE A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN WHICH IS WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED TO BE BUILT IN A PARTICULAR PHASE. SO WHAT YOU'RE WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE ON THE SCREEN IS THE PDP A OF SOUTH TOWN WOULD REMAIN RETAIL AS IT IS TODAY YOU SEE THE PROPOSED RETAIL THE PLUS IT SAYS PLUS OR MINUS SIX 6000 SQUARE FEET ON TWO LEVELS 120,000 SQUARE FOOT DICK'S HOUSE OF SPORT THAT'S THE THAT'S THE PHASE THAT'S BEING PROPOSED FOR TONIGHT.  AND IMMEDIATELY ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER THERE A FUTURE PHASE IT'S BEEN IDENTIFIED BY THE APPLICANT IS A MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING AND THAT IS NOT BEING PROPOSED FOR TONIGHT. THAT IS A FUTURE PHASE THAT COULD COME SOON OR IT COULD BE SEVERAL WHAT IS NOT SHOWN WELL I'LL GET TO A DIFFERENT SLIDE IN A MOMENT BUT THIS THIS IS A GRAPHIC FROM THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLANS HERE. WE'RE ZOOMING A LITTLE BIT ON THE SITE. YOU CAN SEE WHERE IT SAYS LOT THREE THAT'S THAT'S WHERE THE MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING IS BEING AT LEAST PRELIMINARILY PROPOSED.  SO WITH THIS PARTICULAR PHASE THAT'S GOING TO BE THAT'S GOING TO REMAIN A VACANT SITE. AND SO IT'S GOING TO BE VERY OBVIOUS THAT WOULD BE A FUTURE DEVELOPMENT PAD. BUT YOU CAN SEE ON THIS GRAPHIC JUST HOW MUCH IF YOU COMPARE WHAT'S ON THE PLAN,  WHAT'S OUT THERE TODAY, HOW MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE THE PARKING FACILITIES WOULD BE IMPLEMENTED?  THERE IS HARDLY A TREE OR A SHRUB ON THE SITE AND THIS WOULD REALLY BRING THAT THOSE PARKING FACILITIES INTO INTO COMPLIANCE.  WHAT YOU'RE ALSO SEEING IS A LOT MORE PEDESTRIAN ACCOMMODATIONS WITHIN SOUTH TOWN THAT DOES NOT EXIST TODAY PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS PRETTY SPARSE BUT WITH THIS WITH THIS PROJECT THERE WOULD BE QUITE A FEW SIDEWALK CONNECTIONS ESPECIALLY WITHIN KNOX AVENUE WHICH IS WHEN YOU GET NORTH OF AMERICAN THAT'S A PRIVATE STREET AS WELL AS.  CONNECTIONS BETWEEN THE NORTH AND SOUTH EAST WEST PARTS OF THE OF THE SHOPPING CENTER . SO WHAT UNIQUE AND THIS THIS GOES BACK TO THE DISCUSSION ON THE  AUTO DEALERSHIP EARLIER WAS THE ZONING ON WITHIN THE PAN AMERICAN DISTRICT PLAN AND AND SOUTH TOWN ACTUALLY HAS A SPLIT ZONING THE MAJORITY OF IT IS C THREE FREEWAY COMMERCIAL BUT THEN THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE SITE WHICH IS THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF KNOX AND AMERICAN HAS A DIFFERENT ZONING DISTRICT AND THERE WERE SIMILAR TO OTHER SITES THERE WERE NEGOTIATIONS ON WHAT ISN'T APPROPRIATE OR OR DO WE FORESEE AS REDEVELOPMENT LOOKING LIKE FROM A DENSITY PERSPECTIVE C THREE IN IN THIS CASE THERE IS A POINT FOR MINIMUM F AIR AND THEN FOR C FIVE WE HAVE THAT 1.0 FDR THAT THAT THAT YOU'RE DISCUSSING EARLIER SO SITE THAT NORTHWEST CORNER OF AMERICAN AND KNOX ON THEIR PDP THEY'RE NOT SHOWING A DEVELOPMENT PHASE THIS IS AN EXTREMELY GREAT SITE FOR A HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENT AND SO IN THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL WE'VE PROPOSED LANGUAGE THAT ESSENTIALLY RETAINS THE REQUIREMENT THAT THIS BE A A DEVELOPMENT SITE ALTHOUGH THERE ISN'T A PARTICULAR PLAN FOR TODAY ANOTHER ANOTHER GRAPHIC JUST KIND OF WITHOUT THE AERIAL IMAGE SHOWING ESSENTIALLY THE NEGOTIATED FAR MINIMUMS FOR SOUTH TOWN AND THEN YOU SEE THAT CORNER SITE AND THEN WHAT'S NOT PART OF THIS APPLICATION TONIGHT IS EAST OF KNOX WHICH ARE IDENTIFIED FOR FUTURE OFFICE USES AND THAT HAS A SEPARATE FAR ONE OF THOSE PEDESTRIAN ENHANCEMENTS THAT HELPED US MAKE THE FINDINGS THAT THERE IS A PUBLIC BENEFIT IS SOME PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS WE'RE LUCKY 13 SAYS YOU HAVE THE ORANGE LINE BRT BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE GRAPHIC ON THE RIGHT THAT LEADS TO AND FROM THE BRT TUNNEL AND THERE'S A NICE TRAIL THAT GOES UNDER THE TUNNEL BUT THEN THE CROSSWALK JUST LEADS YOU RIGHT INTO A PARKING LOT THAT'S NOT IT THAT'S NOT A PLEASANT EXPERIENCE FOR A PEDESTRIAN AND FRANKLY IT'S NOT SAFE.  SO AS PART OF THIS PROJECT THE APPLICANT WOULD CONSTRUCT A SIDEWALK THAT CONNECTS FROM THAT CROSSWALK THAT YOU'RE SEEING ON THE SCREEN TO THE SHOPPING CENTER TURN OF THE BUILDING ITSELF.  WE'RE PRETTY FAMILIAR WITH THE THE THEME AT FOUR FOR DICK'S THAT THAT WOULD BE CONTINUED IN TERMS OF THE SCHEMES IT'S A MIX OF MATERIALS THAT WE'RE VERY COMFORTABLE WITH THERE ARE SOME MINOR MODIFICATIONS THAT WOULD BE NEEDED TO MEET CITY CODE BUT WE'VE WE'VE IDENTIFIED THAT WITH THE APPLICANT AND WE HAVEN'T HEARD ABOUT ANY HEARTBURN WITH THOSE MODIFICATIONS.  SO FROM A BUILDING MATERIAL PERSPECTIVE OR A BUILDING DESIGN, WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE AND WHAT'S THE PUBLIC HEARING RELATES TO A PLATTING VARIANCE AND SO THIS IS A PRELIMINARY PLAT IS JUST FULL OF VERY DETAILED INFORMATION BUT ESSENTIALLY THE CITY CODE REQUIRES THAT FOR PARKED MITIGATION FEES WE WOULD HAVE TO COLLECT THE ENTIRETY OF PARK DEDICATION FEES FOR ALL OF THE EXISTING AND FUTURE PHASES FOR SOUTH AND SHOPPING CENTER.  WELL WE DON'T WE'RE NOT SURE WHAT WILL HAPPEN THE MEDICAL OFFICE WE'RE NOT WHAT THAT PHASE ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF KNOX AMERICA WILL LOOK LIKE . AND SO WE ARE WE ARE SUPPORTIVE OF A VARIANCE TO COLLECT PARK DEDICATION FEES WHEN A PHASE IS BEING CONSTRUCTED.  SO IT'S NOT A IT'S NOT A REMOVAL OF PARK DEDICATION FEES DEDICATION FEES IS JUST A DEFERRAL UNTIL FUTURE PHASES ARE DEVELOPED.  WE'VE DONE THIS WITH A VARIETY OF MULTI-PHASE DEVELOPMENTS CEQ IS ONE THAT COMES TO MIND BUT THERE THERE ARE SEVERAL AND I'M NOT GOING TO HAND IT OFF TO CITY'S TRAFFIC CONSULTANT TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS THAT FEELING WELCOME.  GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS MY NAME IS KELSEY LARSON.  I'M A TRAFFIC ENGINEER WITH BOLTON INC AND AS MIKE SAID YEAH, WE HELPED THE CITY OR DID A TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY ON BEHALF THE CITY AND I'M REALLY JUST GOING TO TALK ABOUT ONE AREA IN PARTICULAR AND ONE CONDITION OF APPROVAL REALLY HOW WE GOT TO THIS RECOMMENDATION.  SO WE'RE ZOOMED IN LOOKING SPECIFICALLY AT WE HAVE PENN ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE SCREEN SO 494 IS AT THE TOP OR WOULD BE AT THE TOP AND AMERICAN BOULEVARD WOULD BE ON THE BOTTOM. SO THIS IS THE THE ENTRANCE AT 79TH STREET AS SHOWN AND THERE ARE TWO EASTBOUND LANES ENTERING THE SITE.  THE AREA THAT WE RECOMMEND IMPROVEMENT TO IS THE EXTENSION OF THE EASTBOUND LANES INTO THE SITE SO YOU CAN SEE HOW CURRENTLY THAT AFTER THE APPLEBEE'S CROSSWALK THERE'S ONLY ABOUT 60 FEET AND THEN THE SECOND THE OUTSIDE LANE DROPS AS A RIGHT TURN LANE WE THAT THIS IS A SAFETY CONCERN AS DRIVERS HAVE TO DETERMINE IF THEY ARE GOING TO GET OVER AND COULD BE NOT LOOKING FOR PEDESTRIANS AT THAT CROSSWALK CROSSWALK THIS IS JUST A STREET LEVEL VIEW FROM A DRIVER'S PERSPECTIVE IF YOU'RE COMING INTO SOUTHTOWN ALONG THAT EASTBOUND APPROACH SO YOU CAN SEE THE CROSSWALK AND THEN HOW AFTER THAT RIGHT TURN LANE WOULD DISAPPEAR OR THAT SECOND LANE TURNS INTO THE RIGHT TURN LANE AND SO WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING IS TO INCREASE THE DISTANCE OF THAT SECOND EAST PHONE LINE SO THAT IT EXTENDS BEYOND TO THE DRIVE AISLES AS SHOWN.  NOW THE REASON THAT WE ONLY RECOMMEND EXTENDING IT THOSE TWO DRIVE AISLES INSTEAD OF TO THIRD ONE IS IF WE WERE TO EXTEND IT INTO THAT THIRD DRIVE AISLE AND BRING IT ALL THE WAY UP TO THAT CLOSE CROSSWALK THAT'S KIND OF HIGHLIGHTED OR BOX THERE WE WOULD HAVE MAYBE A SIMILAR ISSUE TO WHAT WE SEE AT THE APPLEBEE'S WHERE THAT LANE WOULD BE DROPPING KIND OF RIGHT IN A MAJOR CROSSWALK AREA. SO WE WOULD RECOMMEND IT AND I GUESS THE REASON THAT WE RECOMMEND EXTENDING IT THIS FAR REALLY HAS TO DO WITH THE DECISION SIGHT DISTANCE FOR A VEHICLE DRIVING 20 MILES AN HOUR WHICH WOULD BE KIND OF APPROPRIATE FOR SOMEONE DRIVING THROUGH A PARKING LOT AND THAT DISTANCE WE WOULD PREFER IT TO BE MUCH LONGER. WE WOULD PREFER IT TO BE ABOUT 400 FEET. THIS IS DEFINED BY WHICH IS THE AMERICA ASSOCIATION OF STATE HIGHWAY OFFICIALS.  THEY DEFINE THIS DECISION SIGHT DISTANCE AS THE DISTANCE THAT IS NEEDED FOR A DRIVER TO DETECT AN UNEXPECTED OR DIFFICULT TO PERCEIVE INFORMATION SOURCE IN A ROADWAY AND VIA ENVIRONS THAT MAY BE VISUALLY CLUTTERED SUCH AS A PARKING LOT RECORD DENIES THAT THREAT AND THEN DETERMINED TO STOP OR LANES.  NOW WHAT'S SHOWN HERE ON THE SCREEN IS ONLY 200 FEET SO HALF OF THAT IDEAL OR PREFERRED DISTANCE. HOWEVER 200 FEET DOES HAPPEN TO BE THE MINIMUM DISTANCE THAT WOULD BE NEEDED FOR THE DECISION SIGHT DISTANCE AT MILES AN HOUR. SO THAT IS WHY WE GOT TO I GUESS THIS 200 FOOT DISTANCE THIS SLIDE IS SHOWING WHAT THE DEVELOPER HAD PROPOSED WHICH IS ONLY EXTENDING THAT EASTBOUND LANE ONE TRY FOR DRIVE AISLE. HOWEVER THIS ONLY BRINGS THAT DISTANCE BETWEEN THE APPLEBY'S CROSSWALK AND THE POINT OF THE LANE ENDING TO BE ABOUT 135 FEET SO LESS THAN THAT BUT HUNDRED FOOT DISTANCE.  SO JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT KIND OF HOW WE GOT TO THAT RECOMMENDATION AND WHY WE WENT WITH THE 200 FOOT DISTANCE THERE.  THANKS.  SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL THE CONDITION RELATED TO TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS IS INCORPORATED INTO THE CONDITIONS FOR CONSIDERATION.  THREE MOTIONS ARE BEFORE YOU ONE FOR THE FINAL PRELIMINARY FINAL DEVELOPED PLANS, SECOND FOR A PRELIMINARY PLAT TO SUBDIVIDE SOUTH TONE AND THE THIRD FOR PLANNING VARIANCE TO DEFER PARK DEDICATION FEES.  I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU MR. CENTENARIO QUESTIONS OF MR. CENTENARIO COUNCILMEMBER LOMAN SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS YOU KNOW THE OVERALL YOU KNOW THE KIN OF AMERICAN PLAN HOW DID STAFF KIND OF GET TO THE CONCLUSION THAT THIS MADE SENSE OR FIT INTO THAT VISION OF THAT PLAN? BECAUSE THAT'S THAT'S WHERE I'M KIND OF HAVING DIFFICULTY TRYING TO MAKE THIS MAKE SENSE. YOU KNOW, IN MY MIND IN TERMS OF , YOU KNOW, THE YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT WITH THE VISION WE WERE TALKING ABOUT NEW CITY BLOCKS AND YOU KNOW, I MEAN THIS IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN THAT AND SO HELP ME KIND OF UNDERSTAND AND I UNDERSTAND YOU KNOW, PART OF THIS IS BEING PRAGMATIC AND GETTING YOU WHAT YOU RECEIVE BUT JUST HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW THIS FITS INTO I, I MEAN CERTAINLY THE NUMBERS FIT IN THERE AND THAT KIND OF THING BUT HELP ME. I HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THAT. AND MR. MAYOR, COUNCILMEMBERS YOU KNOW, THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION AND AS A STAFF WE'RE OFTEN HAVING TO TO TRY TO BALANCE THE VISION IN THE AMERICAN DISTRICT PLAN AND THE REALITY OF DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS THAT WE RECEIVE THAT THE CITY IS OBLIGATED TO TAKE ACTION ON AND THERE IS A LOT OF PRAGMATISM AT PLAY. BUT WHEN LOOKED AT THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT RELATIVE TO CERTAIN DENSITY STANDARDS,  YOU KNOW WE WERE DEALING WITH SFR AGAIN IT IS THEY'RE VERY CLOSE TO THE FDR MINIMUMS THAT WERE NEGOTIATED AND DEPENDING ON HOW YOU SLICE UP THE THE LOTS ARE IN LINE WITH AGREEMENTS THAT THE APPLICANT HAD WITH THE CITY FROM A FAIR PERSPECTIVE AND SO WE WANT MUCH BETTER PEDESTRIAN ENHANCEMENTS THAN WHAT'S EXISTING TODAY AND I CERTAINLY CAN SAY THAT I BELIEVE THAT THAT DESIRE HAS BEEN MET THERE . YOU KNOW THE THE SITE OVERALL REALLY NEEDS A LOT OF REINVESTMENT AND THIS PROPOSAL REINVEST QUITE HEAVILY IN THE EASTERN HALF OF SOUTH STONE AND I THINK WITH FUTURE PHASES OF THE MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING AND THAT NORTHWEST CORNER OF AMERICAN BOULEVARD AND KNOX THINK THAT REPRESENTS THAT FURTHERS THE VISION OF THE PAN-AMERICAN DISTRICT PLAN MAINLY FROM JUST A BUILDING DESIGN BUT THEN TRYING TO SUPPORT THE ORANGE BRT.  ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU FOR THAT. YOU KNOW, JUST A FEW OF THE THINGS THAT I JUST HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT OR YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF THE AS YOU KIND OF MAKE THAT AND WE'RE TRYING TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF AND JUST THIS KIND OF WHERE MY QUESTION IS KIND OF WHY IT IS CERTAINLY I SEE THE IMPROVED CONDITIONS FOR PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLES NOT REALLY ON THE BICYCLE PART IMPROVE ACCESS TO AREAS TO TRANSIT ROADWAY YOU KNOW TRAIL TO SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS THERE'S NOT REALLY THIS AREA THAT THAT THAT THAT CONNECTION BUT I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THAT PART NEW WALKABLE STREETS AND BLOCKS AND THAT'S THAT'S SORT OF WHERE I'M JUST AND I KNOW THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING OF THIS BUT THAT'S NOT YOU KNOW, IN THERE SO THERE IS YOU KNOW I COULD GO ON ABOUT THE VISION AND THAT KIND OF THING BUT THAT'S JUST WHERE I'M KIND OF I'M STILL TRYING TO QUESTION HOW FITS INTO THAT. I MEAN ESPECIALLY THIS THIS PORTION OF IT I KNOW THIS IS ONE PORTION OF IT. I'M I HAVE TO BLANK THAT OTHER PART OUT BECAUSE IT MAY NOT TO FRUITION AT ALL. I'M JUST LOOKING AT JUST WHAT I HAVE A FORMULA IT'S JUST ATHLETIC FIELD THE PROPOSED RETAIL SPACE THERE IS TO ME IT'S FEELS A LOT LIKE WHAT WE'VE ALREADY SEEN IN THAT SPACE JUST RECONFIGURED.  YEAH IT IS SIMILAR IT IS SIMILAR. OKAY I THINK THERE THERE ARE SOME VERY DISTINCT ENHANCEMENTS THAT DON'T EXIST TODAY.  SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE CENTRAL SPINE WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT THAT MORGAN AVENUE THAT THAT ESSENTIALLY CREATES A WESTERN EAST BLOCK IF YOU WILL OF SOUTH TOWN AND THAT THAT DRIVE LANE DOES NOT GO THROUGH THE SITE TODAY YOU EITHER HAVE TO IF YOU HEAD NORTH THE SITE YOU HAVE TO TURN LEFT OR RIGHT OR IF YOU DRIVE STRAIGHT YOU'RE GOING INTO A PARKING SO THAT THAT DOES CREATE TWO BLOCKS THERE THERE'S ALSO AGAIN THERE'S NOT A LOT OF BIKE IMPROVEMENTS BUT AS WE HAVE DEVELOPMENT, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO IS ENSURE THAT THERE'S BIKE PARKING FOR EVERY PHASE THAT COMES IN TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT BASIC BIKE INFRASTRUCTURE THERE THE PROCESS OR ENHANCEMENTS THAT ARE OUTLINED IN THE DISTRICT I THINK ARE BEING MET WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT. BUT IT IT IT IS NOT THE PERFECT VISION. THIS IS NOT THE PERFECT VISION OF WE IDEALLY WOULD WANT BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO REALIZE THAT THERE ARE SOME CHALLENGES AND ONE BEING OF MAJOR OVERHEAD LINE THAT THAT GOES FOR GOES THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THE SITE WHERE YOU CAN'T PUT A BUILDING. SO THAT IS A MAJOR HURDLE THAT DOESN'T THAT DOESN'T HAVE A SOLUTION. SO THE APPLICANT HAS TO WORK AROUND THAT THAT OBSTRUCTION AND I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP THOSE KIND OF MY LAST WHAT ARE THE OTHER THINGS BECAUSE THERE'S THOSE THAT WERE MENTIONED IN THE IN THE IN THE OVERALL PAN AMERICAN PLAN.  ARE THERE ANY OTHER THINGS YOU WANT TO MENTION RELATED TO THAT THAT THE PLATE IN THE OF THAT HOW OUR STAFF GOT TO THIS AND WE WEREN'T A PART OF THAT PART OF IT YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT YEAH IT'S MAYOR COUNCILMEMBERS I'M NOT PERSONALLY INVOLVED IN ALL THE DISCUSSIONS BUT I KNOW THAT SEWER CAPACITY IS A MAJOR QUESTION IN THIS AREA THERE HAS TO BE QUITE A BIT OF DONE TO THE SERVICES IN THIS AREA TO SUPPORT MUCH HIGHER DENSITY DEVELOPMENT.  ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, COMMENTS I THE QUESTION I HAD AND JUST TO MAKE IT MAKE SENSE OR AS COUNCILMEMBER LOGAN WAS TALKING ABOUT AS WE SAW THE PRESENTATION AND INCLUDED WE SAW RESIDENTIAL POSSIBILITIES. WE SAW PARKING, WE SAW GREEN SPACE ARE ARE WE ARE THOSE JUST SO FAR IN THE FUTURE WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THEM HERE OR WHERE IS WHERE DOES THAT STAND?  MR. COUNCILMEMBER IS OTHER I THINK THE GRAPHIC YOU'RE REFERRING WAS A CONCEPTUAL MODEL THAT WE REQUIRED THE APPLICANT PUT TOGETHER IT IT IS CONCEPTUAL AND SO ASSISTANT IS JUST AS A SKETCHUP MODEL IDENTIFYING WHAT SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS LOOK LIKE IN THE FUTURE AS STAFF WE WANT TO WORK TOWARDS A SIMILAR VISION AND THIS SITE AS WELL AS THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST OF KNOX EXTENDED WE DON'T ENVISION THERE BEING A CITY PARK BUT CERTAINLY IN THE LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS AND PERVIOUS SURFACE REQUIREMENTS THOSE ARE ALL ELEMENTS OF A AN ATTRACTIVE URBAN ENVIRONMENT WELL AND AS I IF I HEARD YOU CORRECTLY AS YOU WERE SAYING THE MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING WAS IN THE FUTURE THAT WASN'T AS FIRM IS WHAT THE PROPOSED DIXIELAND OR HOUSE OF SPORTS IS AND THEN I MEAN ON THE SOUTHERN PORTION THERE I MEAN THE EXISTING BED BATH AND BEYOND IS AN EXISTING EMPTY BUILDING AND THE BOWLING ALLEY MIGHT WELL BE I MEAN IT'S THERE'S AND WE HAD SEEN EARLIER WAS AT LEAST SOME SOME THOUGHTS THERE THERE ARE NO THERE ARE NO PLANS IN PLACE OR THERE ARE NO ARE THEY WORKING TOWARD THAT GOAL OR WHERE WHERE DO WE STAND WITH THAT? MR. MAYOR, COUNCILMEMBERS FOR LIKE IF YOU CAN SEE THE LINE THAT IS ON THIS GRAPHIC THAT IS IT IS CREATING A CREATE WOULD WOULD CREATE A LOT ON THE SHARED WALL BETWEEN THE FORMER BED BATH AND BEYOND AND THE BOWLING ALLEY SO THAT LOT IS ROUGHLY THAT C-5 PROPERTY AND THERE YOU KNOW THERE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSIONS ON WHAT COULD HAPPEN.  I'M SURE THE APPLICANT CAN SPEAK TO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'VE CONSIDERED BUT THERE ARE NO DEFINITIVE PLANS FOR WHAT THAT WOULD ENTAIL.  THAT'S WHY WE FELT IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT TO BE VERY, VERY CLEAR THAT THIS IS A FUTURE SITE AND WE WOULD LIKE WE WANT TO WORK TOWARDS THAT DENSE URBAN DEVELOPMENT ON THAT CORNER. ABSOLUTELY ALL RIGHT,  COUNCILOR, ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS?  ALL RIGHT.  I MEAN YOU DID MENTION THE APPLICANT IS HERE. THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO TALK WITH US AT ALL ON THIS AND THEN WE'LL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.  GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR. WELCOME AND COUNSEL.  MY NAME IS BOB CUNNINGHAM WITH CHRIS ANDERSON. I'D LIKE TO JUST KIND GO WAY BACK TO 1960 WHEN SOUTH TOWN WAS BUILT AND OVER THE YEARS IT'S EVOLVED AND EVOLVED AGAIN AND THE FACT THAT WE'VE GOT ESSENTIALLY ONE THIRD OF SOUTH TOWN AVAILABLE FOR REDEVELOPMENT RIGHT NOW SOMETHING OF A MIRACLE.  THERE'S 20 OTHER TENANTS IN HERE THAT HAVE VARYING TERMS, VARYING VARYING RATES, VARYING PARKING FIELDS.  SO WE'RE WALKING THE DEVELOPMENT TYPE TIGHTROPE RIGHT NOW.  WE TORE DOWN THE FUNCTIONALLY OBSOLETE TOYS R US AND HERB BURGERS AND SOME OF THE SHOP SPACE AND THAT'S STILL GOING ON RIGHT NOW. BUT WE'RE LOOKING TO REPLACE THIS SOME OF THE RETAIL VIBRANCY THAT WAS ITSELF TOWN BY BRINGING DICK'S HOUSE OF SPORTS INTO SITE.  AFTER WE GET DONE WITH DICK'S HOUSE, THE SPORTS  WE ESSENTIALLY RUN OUT OF SEWER CAPACITY. SO WE ARE GOING TO BE PUT ON SOME LEVEL OF HOLD FOR OF THE SUBSEQUENT PHASES UNTIL THAT ISSUE GETS SOLVED. BUT WE ARE VERY PLEASED TO BE BRINGING SO MUCH OF IMPROVEMENTS OF STORMWATER AND LANDSCAPING AND TRAIL EXTENSION AND WHAT WE CAN BE DOING FOR SOUTH TOWN RIGHT NOW . SO WE ARE VERY PLEASED WITH THE PLAN. WE APPRECIATE ALL OF THE ASSISTANCE FROM THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO GET US TO THIS POINT THIS EVENING. THANK.  AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR FUTURE GREAT THINGS. IT'S SOUTH TOWN RIGHT NOW WE'RE LOOKING TO INVEST TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN THE REVITALIZATION OF SOUTH TOWN AND WE'RE LOOKING INTO THE FUTURE AT HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF REDEVELOPMENT TOWN.  MR. GRIFFITH FULLY THE RIGHT MAYOR AND COUNCIL BILL GRIFFITH REPRESENTING CROSS ANDERSON. I HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS THAT ALSO RELATE TO MORE RECENT HISTORY THAT HISTORY THE PAN AMERICAN PLAN WAS DEVELOPED. THAT HISTORY THAT YOU ALLUDED TO EARLIER WHEN THOSE PROPERTIES WERE RE ZONED AND THERE WAS A SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT WAS PUT IN PLACE WITH THE CITY AND WHAT IT WAS REALLY INTENDED TO DO IS TO MAKE SURE THAT SOUTH TOWN REFURBISH THE BUILDINGS THAT IT HAS AND CONTINUE TO SERVE THOSE SPACES BUT ALSO LOOK TO THE FUTURE AND LOOK TO THE FUTURE IN A WAY THAT YOU KNOW, ROBUST REDEVELOPMENTND HIGH COULD OCCUR IN THE KRAUS ANDERSON OWNER BOUGHT INTO THAT AT THAT TIME IT WAS BASED ON THIS SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT THEY COULD IN STAGES AND PHASES MOVE TO HIGHER AND HIGHER DENSITY WITH THE BEST OPPORTUNITIES BEING ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. NOW EVENTUALLY YOU WOULD EXPECT OVER TIME THAT WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY WOULD ALSO REDEVELOP TO HIGHER DENSITY. AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS DISCUSSED AND I RESOLVED AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION WAS AN UNDERSTANDING THAT FLORIDA FLOOR AREA RATIO REQUIREMENT WOULD SATISFIED WITH EACH PHASE OF THE DEVELOPMENT. THAT WAS VERY IMPORTANT US NOT THE OVERALL SITE BECAUSE YOU HAVE ONE STORY BUILDINGS THAT ARE IN PLACE BUT EACH PHASE OF THE DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE MOVING TO HIGHER DENSITY.  AND SO AS YOU LOOK AT JUST THE DICK'S HOUSE OF SPORTS ON THE LOT THAT IT SITS ON IT'S AT .55 FLOOR AIR RATIO SO VERY SIGNIFICANT MOVE UP FROM THE ONE STORY BUILDINGS. NOW IF YOU LOOK IN DAY'S RETAIL ENVIRONMENT TO LAND A DICK'S AT THIS LOCATION AT SOUTH TOWN IS A CATALYST FOR SO MORE.  WHY? BECAUSE WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT UNDERGROUND STORMWATER THAT'S THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT IN A SITE LIKE THIS TO HAVE UNDERGROUND STORMWATER WITH MODERN INFILTRATION ON THE SITE.  THAT'S A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY. THE ENTIRE THIRD THAT IS BEING REDEVELOPED WILL BE LANDSCAPED . IT WILL HAVE TREES. IT WILL HAVE THE TRAIL CONNECTION AS WAS MENTIONED TO THE REGIONAL TRAILS.  VERY, VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE CAN MOVE INCREMENTALLY ON VISION.  THIS DOES NOT MOVE AWAY FROM THE VISION. THIS IS MOVING TOWARDS VISION WITH EACH PHASE MOVING TO A HIGHER DENSITY AND THAT'S WHY WE HAD NO PROBLEM WITH RETAINING AS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL SIMPLY A STATEMENT OF WHAT'S IN YOUR YOUR ZONING CODE . THAT 1.0 FLORA RATIO IN THAT KEY CORNER ACROSS FROM THE TRANSIT STATION AND THEN FURTHER AS YOU MOVE ACROSS THERE ARE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES FOR THAT 1.0 MINIMUM FLOOR AREA RATIO WHICH IS VERY PRESCRIPTIVE AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT. SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS HAS BEEN UNFOLDING FOR MANY, MANY YEARS AND IT REALLY IS MOVING IN RIGHT DIRECTION AND IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE AGREEMENT THAT WE SIGNED.  I SHOULDN'T SAY WE DIDN'T SIGN ANYTHING. THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY ALMOST TEN YEARS AGO. LAST POINT AND I THINK IT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT YOUR PAN AMERICAN PLAN IDENTIFIED ALMOST 11 YEARS AGO THAT YOU HAD A SEWER ISSUE AND THAT'S NOT SOMETHING NEW AND THE CITY IS AFTER IT. THEY'RE WORKING VERY HARD THEY'VE ENGAGED STAKEHOLDERS. WE WOULD SIMPLY ASK YOU AND YOU'LL PROBABLY SEE COMMUNICATION TO THIS EFFECT THAT YOU ACCELERATE THAT.  WE UNDERSTAND YOUR STAFF, YOU KNOW, HAS A LOT ON THEIR WORK PLAN BUT THIS IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE OTHERWISE THERE'S A BASICALLY A THREE YEAR HOLD ON WHAT COMES NEXT AND THIS A GREAT LOCATION FOR A MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING PROBABLY TWO OR MORE. IT COULD BE YOU KNOW, THIS IS FIRST AND MAIN. THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT SITE AND THE PROPERTY OWNER UNDERSTANDS THAT THE CITY UNDERSTANDS THAT WE WOULD ASK YOU TO THINK ABOUT ON ON YOUR SEPARATE ITEM THAT COMES BEFORE YOU PERHAPS NEXT MONTH, HOW CAN YOU ACCELERATE THAT SEWER BUILDING PROJECT?  I KNOW IT'S VERY COMPLICATED IT GOES UNDER A 35 W AND THAT'S NOT WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT.  BUT I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T MENTION THAT THAT'S REALLY WHAT'S HOLDING UP HERE. SO THIS CAN BE DONE THIS CAN BE DONE IN A WAY THAT MAKES SENSE AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO CLOSE ANY DOORS. THANK AND THANK YOU AND THANKS FOR BOTH OF YOUR COMMENTS. THERE'S SOMETHING MORE THAN JUST ONE MORE THING. YES, YOU MENTIONED MR. MAYOR A MOMENT AGO SOME OF THE IMAGES THAT WE'VE PROVIDED ON PREVIOUS OCCASIONS IF IT'S POSSIBLE, COULD WE PUT THOSE UP ON THE SLIDE SHOW TO JUST GIVE AN AND ALSO I WANTED TO INDICATE THAT WE ARE INTENSELY STUDYING THE C5, THE C4 AND,  THE BALANCE OF THE C3 MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING LAYOUTS AND STRUCTURED PARKING AND HOW WE CAN WORK ALL OF THIS INTO THE DENSITIES THAT WILL WORK FOR CELL TONE AND I APPRECIATE THAT AND I APPRECIATE THE AND APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS. MR. GRIFFITH ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT YES, THE SEWER CAPACITY IS A IS AN ENORMOUS ISSUE AND HAS BEEN FOR SOME TIME AND YES, WE WILL TALK WITH STAFF,  SEE IF WE CAN GET THAT ON THE FAST TRACK BECAUSE THERE'S THERE'S NOTHING AS YOU'RE THEN TALKING ABOUT SEWER EXPANSION THAT THAT'LL GET PEOPLE'S ATTENTION BUT I ALSO AT THE SAME TIME WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT THE URGENCY IS IS BOTH WAYS.  WELL AND BECAUSE THIS IS THIS IS JUST SUCH A WONDERFUL WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS AND WE'VE BEEN DOWNTOWN AND WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION AND IT'S JUST YES, FIRST IN FIRST AND MAIN IS IS WHAT THIS IS IT'S IS A PRIME SPOT THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AND IT IT WOULD IT WOULD NOT BENEFIT ANY OF US IF THIS TEN OR 15 YEARS TO FILL IN WE NEED TO WORK ON THIS AS A TEAM AND TRY TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN AND APPRECIATE THE LAYOUTS AND THE LOOK OF THIS HERE THE THE THOUGHT AFTER WE TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST TIME THAT CAME TO MY MIND I HAPPENED TO BE OVER ON THE EAST SIDE IN BLOOMINGTON STATION AND IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GREENSPACE IN AN URBAN AREA, THAT'S A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF GREENSPACE IN AN URBAN IS BLOOMINGTON CENTRAL STATION WITH THE WAY THAT HAS COME TOGETHER IN AN EQUALLY DIFFICULT AREA TO BE FRANK I MEAN AN EQUALLY DIFFERENT AREA WITH PLANES GOING OVERHEAD EVERY 30 SECONDS. SO IT'S IT'S IT'S DOABLE BUT IT'S A IT'S A CHALLENGE. AND SO I AS THE CITY SEEKS URGENCY IN TERMS OF SOLVING THESE SEWER CAPACITY ISSUES, I HOPE CHRIS ANDERSON CONTINUES TO SEEK URGENCY ALSO IN TERMS OF MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS AND MOVING FORWARD WITH A A A CREATIVE, A CHALLENGING AND A OUTSTANDING CONCEPT THAT WE CAN ALL BE PROUD OF COUNCIL.  ANY COMMENTS ON THIS? COUNCILMEMBER NELSON YEAH.  THANK YOU, MAYOR. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY WITH WITH YOU THEIR STAFF SO WHAT WE'RE APPROVING TONIGHT IS THE FINAL FOR THE DICK'S HOUSE OF SPORTING SOMEPLACE I'LL PROBABLY NEVER END UP BUT BUT IS IT ALSO THE REPLANT BECAUSE WE'VE GOT LOT ONE THIS IS LOT TO THAT DICK'S OF SPORT IS GOING TO BE ON LOT THREE IS WHERE THE FUTURE POTENTIAL MEDICAL IS AND THEN FOUR IS ESSENTIALLY THE ARE THE C FIVE AREA IN MY UNDERSTANDING THAT RIGHT AND JUST I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO APPROVE HERE, MR. MAYOR, COUNCILMEMBERS I'M HAPPY TO ADDRESS THAT. SO WHAT YOU'RE BEING ASKED TO TAKE ACTION ON THE PRELIMINARY FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLANS SO THE FINAL DEVELOPING IS FOR THE DICK'S HOUSE, THE SPORT PHASE AND ALL THOSE PARKING IMPROVEMENTS.  THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS FOR THE DICK'S PHASE THE FUTURE MEDICAL OFFICE PHASE AND JUST AN ACKNOWLEDGMENT HOW IMPORTANT THAT NORTHWEST CORNER OF KNOX AND AMERICAN IS.  THE SECOND IS A PRELIM ONLY A PLAN WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT WHICH IS A LITTLE UNIQUE. WE USUALLY SEE PRELIMINARY AND FINAL PLANS BUT THE PRELIMINARY PLAN DOES WHERE THOSE LOTS ARE ENVISIONED THAT DOES NOT SUBDIVIDE ANY LAND THE APPLICANT HAVE TO COME BACK FOR A FINAL PLAT TO ACTUALLY CHANGE A LOT BOUNDARIES. WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT THIS TOWN IS THAT IT IS AN EXISTING PLATTED LOT IN AN ABSOLUTELY MASSIVE SINGLE LOT FROM A FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE YOU WOULDN'T NECESSARILY NEED TO RE PLAN BUT UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF FINANCIAL CONSIDERATIONS WHILE YOU MAY WANT TO. AND THEN LASTLY WHAT WE'RE ASKING IS YOU TO APPROVE A RESOLUTION DEFERRING PARTICIPATION FEES SO IT'S NOT AGAIN IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT IT'S NOT ELIMINATING FEES,  IT'S JUST DEFERRING AND THAT MAKES SENSE AND SO I APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION ON WHAT'S FINAL AND WHAT'S PRELIMINARY BECAUSE I THINK YOU KNOW, CANDIDLY I'M COMFORTABLE THE DICK'S SPORTING PORTION OF IT BUT I WANT TO SEE IN THE REST OF IT A MUCH HIGHER FFR, A MUCH HIGHER DENSITY. AND SO ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAVE IS WE HAVE THAT LOT THAT IS ALREADY C-5 IS THERE ANYTHING PROHIBITING US FROM REZONING THE LOTS TO SEE FIVE TO ENSURE THAT WE GET AT LEAST A ONE FFR ON THOSE AND THE REASON THAT I MEAN THAT I'M SAYING AS YOU KNOW WE TALKED EARLIER IN THE EVENING ABOUT THE KEY DEALER AND WHERE WE WERE AT ON THIS. I MEAN THIS IS RIGHT ALONG 494 THIS HAS THE HIGHEST POTENTIAL POSSIBILITY FOR USAGE OF PROPERTY WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AND TO ALLOW IT TO BE AT POINT FOUR FFR I THINK IN MY OPINION IS A HUGE MESS.  THE COMMUNITY I DON'T THINK IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE PLAN THAT WAS ORIGINALLY DEVELOPED AND THERE ARE THOSE THAT THAT WERE THERE WHEN THAT HAPPENED YOU KNOW MY FEAR AND CONCERN IS THAT THIS IS JUST GOING TO GET REDEVELOPED AS RETAIL AS A CLEAR AS IT IS TODAY WITH SOME TWEAKS TO IT AND SOME DIFFERENCES TO IT BASED ON THE MODERN MARKET. AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT WANTS BUT IF WE KEEP GETTING FED THIS PIECEMEAL AND ALL THIS IS ALL THEY CAN DO AND THEN THAT GETS APPROVED. THAT'S ALL THEY CAN DO AND THAT GETS APPROVED. I JUST YOU KNOW, THAT'S MY BIGGEST CONCERN. AND THEN BASED ON YOU WHAT I'VE SEEN BASED ON SEEN WHAT THE CHALLENGES HAVE BEEN IN THIS AREA IN TERMS OF THE VISION AND SOME PUSHBACK ON THAT VISION AND IF YOU WANT MY PERSONAL OPINION THE CITY HAS BEEN RIGHT ALL ALONG ABOUT WHAT SHOULD BE HERE AND IT SHOULD BE A MUCH USE THAN SIMPLY RETAIL. AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T FALL INTO THAT TRAP.  THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER AND COUNCIL WE STILL HAVE AN OPEN PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS AND I'D LIKE TO DO THAT RIGHT NOW YEAH. TO TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 4.5 THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING THE SOUTH TOWN PARTIAL REDEVELOPMENT 7803 PENN AVENUE IS THERE ANYONE IN THE CHAMBERS WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM 4.5 THIS EVENING. MR. COLEMAN SO IS THE PUBLIC HEARING ABOUT THE PRELIMINARY AND FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLANS OR IS FOR THE RESOLUTION FOR THE PLANNING VARIANCE BECAUSE I HEARD THAT SAID I'M SORRY WHAT AM I ALLOWED TO TALK ABOUT THE PRELIMINARY FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLANS OR IS IT JUST THE RESOLUTION FOR THE PLANNING VARIANCE THAT WAS SAID EARLIER OF ALL THAT WAS IN THE PACKET YOU'RE AND THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING ON THAT. YES. ALL RIGHT. HI MY IS ROBERT COLEMAN AND I THINK THAT I'VE I'VE SPOKEN ABOUT THIS BEFORE AND I THINK IT'S KIND OF FRUSTRATING HOW IT SEEMS LIKE EVERYBODY IS LIKE WE WANT SOMETHING BETTER AND THE CITY CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. IT IT'S SO FRUSTRATING THAT WE'VE WAITED A DECADE AND WHAT WE'RE GETTING ISN'T WHAT WE WANT AND NOW WE HAVE TO ACCEPT THE LOWBALL.  IT'S SO FRUSTRATING.  I THINK THAT COUNCILMEMBER NELSON WAS RIGHT ON THE MONEY WITH WHAT I THINK SHOULD BE HAPPENING HERE. I THINK MORE OF IT SHOULD BE C-5 BECAUSE THAT'S MORE LIKE WHAT THE THAT'S MORE CLOSE TO WHAT THE PLAN SAYS AND.  IT DOESN'T IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE THAT WE HAVE THE PLAN THAT TALKS A BIG GAME AND THEN OH IT TURNS OUT THAT LIKE IN THIS ONE PAGE WE ACTUALLY SAID THAT MOST OF IT'S GOING TO BE C THREE AND NAZIF FIVE AND NOW WE'RE JUST KIND OF STUCK WITH THAT. I DON'T, I DON'T GET THAT I'VE SAID MOST MY STUFF ALREADY SO YOU GUYS HAVE READ IT.  THANK YOU, MR. COLEMAN. OTHERS IN THE CHAMBERS COME ON UP PLEASE.  AND AGAIN IF YOU COULD IDENTIFY YOURSELF. GOOD AFTERNOON, SAMIR IN COUNCIL MEMBERS MICHAEL RODRIGUEZ SO SOMETHING THAT I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SHARE I A RESIDENT OF LOMITA FOR THE LAST NINE YEARS AND I'VE BEEN SOUTHTOWN FOR QUITE A TIME EVEN MORE NOW THAT I WORK AT PANDA EXPRESS. SO I HAVE WORKED WITH MANAGEMENT FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ADD ON IS THE THEY ME YOUR CROSSWALK IN FRONT OF APPLEBEE'S AS THEY'RE FROM 79 WEST THE NORTHWEST ENTRANCE IS BASICALLY HAS BEEN AN ISSUE LATELY MORE RIGHT NOW WITH THE THAT THEY DEMOLISHED THE BUILDINGS I HAD WE HAVE QUIET ISSUES OUT FROM OBVIOUSLY THE CITIZENS OF BLOOMINGTON DRIVERS BY JUST VISITORS OF MINNESOTA BRING IT UP TO OUR ATTENTION THAT WE TO IMPROVE MORE OUR WHAT SEVEN NINE STREET ENTRANCE WE HAVE A STOP RIGHT NOW IN FRONT OF APPLEBEE'S ALL PEOPLE IN SULTAN SHOPPING CENTER BUT IN WE ALSO HAVE A STOP SIGN LEAVING FOR EXAMPLE PANDA EXPRESS BUT WE DO NOT HAVE A STOP SIGN GOING INTO THE SHOPPING CENTER WHICH MOST THE TIME PEOPLE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF AVIAN.  I'VE SEEN IT I HAVE WITNESSED DRIVERS. YES.  GETTING TO FROM PENN AVENUE FLYING BY AND I THINK IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD DO IT LIKE WITH STOP SIGN SO THE PEOPLE CAN SEE AND ALLOW FOR PEDESTRIANS CROSS FROM PARKING IN FRONT OF PANDA EXPRESS OR LIKE THOSE RETAIL STORES OVER THERE TO APPLEBEE'S OR FROM IN FRONT OF APPLEBEE'S TO LIKE GOING INTO APPLEBEE'S.  I HAVE SEEN QUITE A LONG AND A LOT OF INCIDENTS AND ANOTHER THING ALSO IS WANT TO BRING LIKE I WENT TO THE OPPOSITE BANK ON PLAZA ANDERSON FOR ALWAYS TRYING TO IMPROVE OUR SHOPPING.  THAT'S ONE OF THE LAST ONES THAT WE HAVE NOW NOWADAYS EVERYTHING ONLINE AND STUFF. SO WE STILL HAVE THE I WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT BUT JUST IN CONSIDERATION AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE SAFETY OVER THERE AS WE HAVE KIDS WANDERING ALONSO BILL VERY GOOD THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.  MR. ALDERMAN, DO WE HAVE ANYONE ON THE PHONE THIS EVENING?  MR. MAYOR WE HAVE NOBODY ONLINE. ANYONE ELSE?  THE CHAMBER WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM TONIGHT COUNCIL NO ONE COMING FORWARD IN THE CHAMBERS. NO ONE ON THE PHONE. I WOULD LOOK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING ON END 4.5 SO MOVED A MOTION COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I OPPOSED THE MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 4.5 SO COUNCIL QUESTIONS COMMENTS WHAT ARE WE THINKING ON THIS COUNCILMEMBER RUTH WOMAN NOW THANK YOU.  YOU KNOW I THINK BACK TO WHEN THIS ORIGINALLY CAME WHEN I WAS FIRST GETTING ON COUNCIL AND I REMEMBER THE CONTENTION THAT WE HAD WHEN WE REZONING A NUMBER OF THE PROPERTIES THAT WERE RIGHT THERE AT SOUTH TOWN AND AND WHEN I THINK ABOUT ONE OF THE GOALS THAT'S A PART OF THE PLAN AND CREATING STAKEHOLDER VALUE BOTH PUBLIC AND PRIVATE AND THERE'S A NUMBER OF STRATEGIES NOT GOING TO READ THEM ALL OFF BUT THIS IDEA OF MAINTAINING FLEXIBILITY TO RESPOND TO MARKET CYCLES I THINK IS AN IMPORTANT COMPONENT.  AND THE AND THE AND THE ATTORNEY FOR CAROL SANDERSON REFERRED TO THAT AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE KIND OF HAVE TO STRIKE A BALANCE. I MEAN I'M NOT REAL CRAZY ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SEEING A BIG PARKING LOT RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FUTURE PLANNED. BUT I'M JUST REMINDED HOW FAR THE CITY HAS COME AND THAT THERE'S IS A CYCLE IN WHICH THAT WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE KIND OF WORKING OUR WAY THROUGH AND THAT EVENTUALLY WE'LL KIND OF GET TO THAT THAT END PERIOD OF TIME.  CERTAINLY WHAT I THINK IS PROPOSED IS IS FAR BETTER THAN WHAT WE'RE SEEING TODAY. AND WHILE  I'M NOT CRAZY ABOUT WHAT I SEE RIGHT HERE BEFORE ME NOW I IN THE PROMISE OF WHAT IS TO COME IN TERMS OF PARTNERING TO GET TO THIS VISION IT'S NOT JUST A PUBLIC PROPERTY HERE BUT IT'S ALSO A PRIVATE PROPERTY AND IT'S THERE'S A DIALOG THAT'S GOING ON BETWEEN BETWEEN THESE INSTITUTIONS. AND I WOULD LIKE TO BE A PART OF THAT DIALOG AND I THINK THIS BEGINS THAT DIALOG.  SO I KNOW THERE'S SOME FOLKS THAT ARE CONCERNED ABOUT CHANGE THAT ZONING BUT WE HAVE COME A LONG WAYS IN TERMS OF THAT ZONING AND YOU KNOW MAYBE WE NEED TO TAKE ANOTHER AT THAT BUT I JUST DON'T THINK THIS IS THE MOMENT IN TIME TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION IF WE WANT TO CRACK THIS PLAN BACK OPEN AGAIN AT SOME POINT TIME AND HAVE A HAVE FURTHER DIALOG ALONG WITH OUR PRIVATE PARTNERS MAYBE THAT'S APPROPRIATE. BUT I THINK TODAY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT SPECIFICALLY I THINK THIS MEETS THE SCOPE OF WHAT THIS WAS AND IT IS GOING TO BE A COUNCILMEMBER OTHERS COUNCILMEMBER NELSON YEAH THANKS.  I'D JUST LIKE TO ECHO MY COLLEAGUE'S COMMENTS. I THINK THIS MEETS WHAT HAD BEEN DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY.  THE FAA ARE ON THE PLAN THAT IS PROPOSED THAT'S TO BE BUILT AS .55. IT'S ABOVE THE .54 THAT AREA ABOVE THE POINT FOUR THAT WAS COMPROMISED ON PREVIOUSLY AND I COMPLETELY THAT THIS IS NOW THE TIME TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION ABOUT REZONING THAT I DO THINK THAT'S A CONVERSATION TO HAVE AND OR SOME OTHER STANDARD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT IF WE WANTED TO LOOK AT THAT THIS IS NOT THE TIME RIGHT.  THE PLAN THAT THEY HAVE MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS IT'S NEEDS THE REQUIREMENTS FOR WHAT WHAT HAS BEEN REQUESTED AND SO I THINK I'M READY TO MOVE IT FORWARD AND I WILL LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING IN ON OUR CONSTRUCTION CONSTRUCTION COUNCIL. OTHER QUESTIONS COUNCILMEMBER SANDRA NOT A QUESTION JUST A COMMENT. I I AGAIN I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE CAN I MEAN I, I WANT TO BE SENSITIVE TO THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE RIGHTS THAT YOU KNOW IF THIS WAS MY HOUSE AND SOMEBODY WAS TRYING TO COME IN AND REZONING MY HOUSE WITHOUT TELLING ME I WOULD BE MAD ABOUT IT. RIGHT. I MEAN ESPECIALLY IF IT MEANT THAT I ALL OF A HAD A BUNCH OF OTHER REQUIREMENTS THAT I HAD TO MANAGE THAT I LIKE DON'T DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WERE COMING TO ME RIGHT. SO I, I THINK WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL OF THAT. I THINK I THINK THAT WE ARE GETTING VERY CLOSE TO WHAT WE ARE REQUIRING FOR.  THE C-3 ZONE IS GOOD WITH ME. I, I GUESS I'M I'M UNINSPIRED BY THIS VISION. UNFORTUNATELY THAT'S THE BIG PROBLEM BUT THAT'S MY PERSONAL OPINION AND IT HAS NOTHING IT DOESN'T WEIGH IN ON WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT AS A COUNCIL WE SHOULD APPROVE OR NOT.  RIGHT. AND I DO APPRECIATE THAT THAT MOST RETAIL ESTABLISHMENTS WHEN YOU HEAR YOU KNOW, WHETHER THAT'S YOU KNOW A PLACE LIKE SIMON PROPERTY IS YOU TALK TO PEOPLE IN THE MALL OF AMERICA OR OTHER PLACES PEOPLE ARE LOOKING TO YOU KNOW LOOK AT ALL THE AMAZING STUFF THAT HAPPENED SOUTHDALE WITH ALL THE EXPERIENCES THAT ARE NOW AVAILABLE THERE YOU CAN TELL THAT THAT THAT RETAIL IS MOVING INTO THIS OTHER PERSPECTIVE SO DICK'S WANTS TO MOVE HERE IS AWESOME I THINK YOU KNOW GETTING IN SOMETHING THAT'S MORE INTERACTIVE THAT WILL PEOPLE TAKE PLAY IN AND WORK WITH EQUIPMENT ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF IS PRETTY COOL. IT'S MORE ACTIVE, IT'S INTERESTING.  HOPEFULLY PEOPLE WILL WALK FROM PANAMERICAN OVER THERE AND GET WHAT THEY NEED AND GO GOLFING WITH IT OR WHATEVER YOU KNOW I SO THAT'S COOL BUT YOU KNOW THEN THEN THE MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING YOU'RE LIKE IS EVERYTHING NOBODY'S OFFICES LIKE I DON'T I GUESS I'M CONFUSED RIGHT. AND SO IT FEELS A LITTLE A LITTLE LIKE LACKING COMPREHENSION JUST THE RIGHT WORD. IT'S NOT COMPREHENSIVE,  DOESN'T FEEL LIKE IT'S A VISION. IT FEELS LIKE OPPORTUNISTIC AND THAT'S COOL LIKE THAT'S DOABLE BUT YOU CAN HAVE A VISION KNOWING THAT YOU HAVE OF PROBLEMS YOU DON'T HAVE TO SIT AROUND WAITING FOR US TO SOLVE THE SUPER PROBLEMS YOU GET A VISION AND SO I GUESS I'M JUST LIKE I WOULD LIKE TO BE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS AND I JUST AM NOT WHICH IS SAD BECAUSE IT'S IN MY PATCH AND I WANT DEVELOPMENT TO HAPPEN IN MY PATCH THAT'S INSPIRING AND INTERESTING TO PEOPLE. SO ANYWAY I'M NOT I'M FINE WITH IT.  COUNCILMEMBER CARTER AND COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS, COUNCILMEMBER CARTER THANK YOU, MAYOR.  SO I GUESS I AGREE WITH WHAT EVERYBODY HAS SAID. I MEAN IT IS ZONED C-3 WHICH IS HIGH INTENSITY RETAIL.  THAT'S WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE AND I FOR 1 A.M. ACTUALLY EXCITED BECAUSE I SPEND A LOT OF TIME DRIVING OVER FOR 94 TO GO TO THE DECKS AND SO TO HAVE IT IN MY BACKYARD AS I SAY AND YOU KNOW, READING THE DESCRIPTION OF WHAT IS AND HOW IT'S DIFFERENT FROM THEIR CURRENT SPACE I MEAN I THINK HAVING THAT MORE EXPERIENTIAL OPPORTUNITY IS GOOD AND SO YOU KNOW, I THINK IF FORMER COUNCILS HAD WANTED TO SOMETHING DRASTICALLY DIFFERENT THEN WHEN THEIR ZONE ZONING WAS CHANGED AT THAT TIME IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN CHANGED TO WHAT IT WAS LIKE, WHAT THE VISION WAS.  IT WASN'T IT WAS CHANGED TO C3 FROM C ONE AND SO IT'S GOING TO BE HIGH INTENSITY RETAIL AND BECAUSE I DO LIVE CLOSE TO THIS AREA AND SPEND A LOT OF TIME HERE. I WILL SAY I'M EXCITED FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS OVERALL SO I'M COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS. I JUST HAVE AN IDEA DON'T WE MOVE ALL THE WEED MANUFACTURING FROM LYNDALE THAT AREA?  I MEAN THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE RIGHT NOW IT'S HIGH INTENSITY COMMERCE IN THERE SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST. I DO NOT I, I AGREE WITH THE REST OF THE COUNCIL. I MEAN WE SHOULD GO AHEAD WITH THIS AND JUST PASS IT. I MEAN IT'S IS A COMMERCIAL PLACE. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN I THINK IT WAS THE FIRST MALL THAT EVER WAS EVER CREATED OR BUILT BY SOUTHDALE I BELIEVE THA TOWN SOUTHDALE YEAH YES YEAH BUT ANYWAY SO I AGREE WITH THE FACT THAT WE SHOULD JUST MOVE ALONG AND MOVE TO PASS IT BUT I PLEASE TAKE MY SUGGESTION THE WEED PRODUCTION TO JUST THE TERRITORY COUNCIL IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS I WOULD LOOK ACTION ON REPEAT A MOVE THIS IS ME. COUNCILMEMBER I MOVE TO APPROVE PULMONARY AND FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLANS FOR A REDEVELOPMENT OF THE SOUTH TOWN SHOPPING CENTER SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS AND CODE ATTACHED TO THE STAFF REPORT. I CAN'T MOST OF MY COUNCILMEMBER DALLAS UNDER A SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER TO APPROVE THE PRELIMINARY AND FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLANS FOR A PARTIAL REDEVELOPMENT OF THE SOUTH TOWN SHOPPING CENTER. NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO I MOVE TO APPROVE PRELIMINARY PLAT TO SUBDIVIDE 7803 PEN AVENUE INTO FOUR LOTS FOR FUTURE REDEVELOPMENT SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER TO APPROVE THE PRELIMINARY PLAT TO SUBDIVIDE 7803 PEN AVENUE INTO FOUR LOTS FOR FUTURE REDEVELOPMENT NO FEUD NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY SAYING I I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO AND FINALLY I MOVE TO A RESOLUTION APPROVING PLANNING VARIANCE ALLOWING PARK DEDICATION FEES TO BE PAID AT THE TIME OF BUILDING PERMIT ISSUANCE SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER KERNER TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION APPROVING A PLANNING VARIANCE REGARDING PARK DEDICATION FEES. NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED THE MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO.  WELL THANK YOU FOR THE CONVERSATION ON THIS. THANK YOU ALL STAFF THANKS FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS AGAIN I KNOW THIS IS NOT A SMALL TO TAKE ON SO I APPRECIATE YOUR WORK ON THIS COUNCIL.  WE ARE A 935 AND WE'RE HEADING INTO OUR ORGANIZATIONAL BUSINESS AND WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF ITEMS HERE BUT I THINK WE'RE ON TRACK. SO AGAIN KEEP OUR OUR STATEMENTS AND OUR QUESTIONS SUCCINCT AND AND ON TOPIC AND WE SHOULD BE OKAY HERE AND IN 5.1 HOUR APPOINTMENT FOR THE 35 W SOLUTIONS ALLIANCE IN THIS 169 CORRIDOR COALITION I THINK WE HAD WITH THE WITH THE STAFF TURNOVER WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF VACANCIES THERE AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED A PRESENTATION OF ANY KIND. THIS IS A THIS IS AN APPOINTMENT TO THOSE TWO THOSE GROUPS AND BASED ON WHAT STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED AND BASED ON THE FOLKS THAT WE HAVE, THE EXPERTIZE THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE ON THIS, I WOULD MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE APPOINT JULIAN LONG AS THE STAFF REPRESENTATIVE TO THE 35 W SOLUTIONS ALLIANCE FOR TER SET TO EXPIRE 31ST 2024 SECOND MOTION AND SECOND VOTE COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO TO APPOINT JULIAN LONG TO THE 35 W SOLUTIONS ALLIANCE NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO WITH COUNCILMEMBER CARTER HAVING STEPPED AWAY FOR A MOMENT HERE AND I WOULD ALSO MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT JULIAN LONG AS THE STAFF ALTERNATE TO THE U.S. 169 CORRIDOR COALITION FOR A TERM SET TO ON DECEMBER 31ST 2024 SAFE MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO TO APPOINT JULIAN LONG AS THE ALTERNATE TO THE 169 CORRIDOR COALITION NO FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSE THE MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO AND WILL MOVE ON ITEM 5.2 THE FIRST OF OUR 2025 BUDGET DISCUSSIONS AND WE ARE GOING TO START WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WITH CHIEF STEELE AND THEN WE WILL TRANSION TO OUR STRATEGIC PRIORITIES FUND AND THE DEPUTY FINANCE OFFICER COREY CARLSON WILL LEAD US TO THAT. BUT AS I SAID, WE WILL START WITH CHIEF STEELE AND DEPUTY CHIEF FORESTER IS GOING TO JOIN IN IF WHEN IF HE NEEDS TO. SO WHEN HE STARTS TO SEE ME FOR WHEN STARTS TO SEE YOU STAGGER. SO CHIEF STEELE GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING MAYOR COUNCILMEMBERS WERE HERE TO DISCUSS 2025 FIRE DEPARTMENT BUDGET AND REVIEW SOME COMPARISONS WITH 2024 ARE STAFFING REQUESTS NEW POTENTIAL REVENUE ENHANCEMENTS OR AT LEAST REVIEW SOME OF THE REVENUE EFFORTS WE'VE MADE TO THIS TO DATE EVALUATING THE IMPACT OF POTENTIAL SERVICE REDUCTIONS SO WHAT WE WERE GOING TO START WITH IS LOOK AT THE HISTORY KIND OF THE HISTORY OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND MOVE INTO THE FUTURE.  I GUESS I GOT TO CHANGE THIS, DON'T I KNOW ABOUT THAT? SO FIRE DEPARTMENT EVOLUTION AS MOST KNOW A FIRE DEPARTMENT WAS CREATED OR PUT TOGETHER IN 1947 WITH JUST 26 VOLUNTEERS ONE LITTLE TWO STALL STATION OVER THE CORNER OF 95TH AND GARFIELD OBVIOUSLY THAT'S AS THE CITY HAS CHANGED TREMENDOUSLY AND AS THE CITY CONTINUES TO CHANGE WE CONTINUE TO FACE CHALLENGES.  SO IN 2001 WE INTRODUCED SOME DAYTIME DUTY USING OUR PART TIME PEOPLE BECAUSE WE WERE STRUGGLING GETTING RIGS OUT DURING THE DAY WE INTRODUCED SOME 24 HOUR DUTY CREWS IN TWO STATIONS IN 2021 AND T REASON WE DID THAT WAS TO TAKE CARE OF THE FACT THAT WE CLOSING ONE STATION AND REBUILDING IT AND WE HAD TO COVER THAT AREA AS WELL AS THE AREA THAT WE STARTED DUTY CREW PROGRAM WITH WHICH WAS UP AT STATION SIX STATION SIX AREA. SO WE SLOWLY TRANSITIONED KIND OF SLOWLY IT'S BEEN MORE RAPID IN THE LAST FEW YEARS BUT.  WE BEGAN A SLOW TRANSITION OF ACQUIRING FULL TIME FULL TIME STAFF STARTING ACTUALLY WITH I HAD FULL TIME ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF BUT STARTING WITH FULL TIME STAFF WAS THE FIRE CHIEFS POSITION AND THAT OCCURRED IN 2007 AND WE STARTED ADDING MORE FULL TIME STAFF SLOWLY AFTER THAT WE REALLY STARTED RUNNING INTO PROBLEMS RECRUITING PAID ON CALL FIREFIGHTERS AND I'VE TALKED TO YOU ABOUT THIS BEFORE SOME OF OUR LAST PAY PERIOD CALL OR PART TIME FIREFIGHTER RECRUITMENT EFFORTS WE HAD A LOT OF INTEREST BUT FEW THAT WOULD GET THROUGH THE PROCESS AND STICK WITH THE PROGRAM SO WITH SOME OF THAT WE KNOWING THAT WE AT THE COUNCIL'S REQUEST AND MY RECOMMENDATION WE DECIDED TO ENGAGE A COMPANY TO COME IN AND DO AN ASSESSMENT OF OUR SERVICES AND OUR SERVICE CAPABILITIES. SO THEY IDENTIFIED SIGNIFICANT RESPONSE TIME ISSUES AND THE THE SLIDE SAYS WE STARTED 24 OUR DUTY CREWS IN ALL STATIONS IT REALLY WASN'T IN ALL STATIONS IT WAS 24 HOUR DUTY CREWS IN SOME OF OUR STATIONS . AND AS THAT HAS PROGRESSED WITH NUMBER OF PART TIME OR PAID ON CALL PEOPLE AS WELL AS THE FULL TIME PEOPLE WE'VE WE'VE ACQUIRED WE RIGHT NOW OUR STAFFING FOR STATIONS PRETTY MUCH ALL THE TIME I'M NOT QUITE ALL THE TIME BUT PRETTY MUCH ALL THE TIME IN FIVE STATIONS SOME OF THE TIME. SO WE HAVE ONE STATION RIGHT NOW THAT WE DO NOT STAFF PRETTY MUCH ANY TIME THAT'S ONE OF THE NEXT ONES UP TO BE REBUILT IN ITS FIRE TWO BUT WE ARE MAKING AN EFFORT PRETTY DECENT EFFORT RIGHT NOW TO STAFF CREWS IN IN FOUR OR FIVE OF OUR STATIONS MOST OF THE TIME SO THAT 20 SERVICE ASSESSMENT DID IDENTIFY SOME SIGNIFICANT RESPONSE TIME ISSUES AND RECOGNIZE TIME GOAL FOR DEPARTMENT OUR SIZE PROTECTING THE POPULATION DENSITY AND WITH OUR CITY RISK PROFILE AND THEY REALLY IDENTIFIED 7 MINUTES AND 32ND TOTAL RESPONSE TIME 90% OF THE TIME AS OUR GOAL YOU ARE AWARE OF THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT WITH AN EFFECTIVE FORCE OUR NUMBER OF PERSONNEL ON OUR APPARATUS IN 2021 WE MET THAT SEVEN MINUTE AND 30 SECONDS STANDARD 60% OF THE TIME.  YEAH THIS IS THIS IS NOT QUITE TO THAT SLIDE YET GIVING YOU FACTS THAT AREN'T ON THE SLIDE NO YOU'RE GOOD THAT'S GOOD. I DO NOT MIND PEOPLE MOVING ME ALONG HERE THE THE THE 2024 ACTUAL 90TH PERCENTILE IS 934 WHICH ACTUALLY IS AN IMPROVEMENT FROM 1130 THAT WE HAD PREVIOUS. SO IT'S IMPROVEMENT OF 2 MINUTES BUT WE'RE STILL 2 MINUTES PLUS AWAY FROM OUR SEVEN MINUTE AND 32ND GOAL. SO AND WE'VE ALSO A GOAL FOR RESPONSE TO STRUCTURE FIRES AND GETTING AT LEAST 15 PERSONNEL ONTO A SCENE OF A STRUCTURE AND THAT WAS THAT EIGHT MINUTE TRAVEL TIME FOR THOSE 15 PERSONNEL. SO IS 11 MINUTE 32ND RESPONSE TIME FOR A MULTI-UNIT TO A STRUCTURE FIRE AND WE DID THAT 9% OF THE TIME IN 2021 AND THIS YEAR FOR THE 19 STRUCTURE FIRES WE'VE HAD SO FAR THIS YEAR WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT ONCE. SO THERE'S STILL A STRUGGLE THAT'S THE POINT OF THIS AND WE'RE STILL GROWING OUT OF THE PROBLEM THAT WE THAT WE HAVE.  SO THE NEXT SLIDE SO POST-COVID OUR DIFFICULTIES IN RECRUITING NEW WERE TRAINING CAPABLE PART TIME PEOPLE KIND OF REACHED CRITICAL MASS WE APPLIED FOR A SAFER GRANT IN 2021 AND WE DIDN'T GET IT AND WE REAPPLY IT AGAIN IN 2022 WITH SOME HELP FROM AN ACTUAL GRANT WRITER AND WE WERE SUCCESSFULLY AWARDED A GRANT FOR 18 FIREFIGHTERS AND SO CURRENTLY OUR OUR FIREFIGHTING STRENGTH IS 30 FIREFIGHTERS FULL TIME FIREFIGHTERS ON SHIFT AND WE'VE CURRENTLY GOT 76 ACTIVE OF PART TIME FIREFIGHTERS BUT TO GIVE YOU A SENSE OF OF HOW DIFFICULT IT IS TO FILL SPOTS WITH PART TIME PEOPLE, THOSE 76 PART TIME FIREFIGHTERS BASICALLY STAFF FOR POSITIONS EVERY DAY ALL YEAR ROUND JUST FOR POSITIONS.  SO OUR GOAL IS TO STAFF SIX STATIONS WITH SIX ENGINES AT SIX STATIONS WITH FOUR PERSONNEL 24 HOURS A DAY AND THAT WILL TAKE APPROXIMATELY 80 FULL TIME AND 75 PART TIME FIREFIGHTERS ASSIGNED TO OPERATIONS RESPONSE SO ASSIGNED TO OUR OUR ARE WORKING SHIFTS POSITIONS IN ADDITION WE'VE GOT FIRE FIRE PREVENTION WHICH ENTAILS CODE ENFORCEMENT INSPECTIONS PLAN REVIEW FOR FIRE CODE COMPLIANCE FIRE EDUCATION AND OUT OF FIRE EDUCATION COMES OUR SCHOOL PROGRAM SENIORS EDUCATION AND PUBLIC OUTREACH AND TRAINING AND THE CITY CONTINUES TO GROW AND DENSITY CONTINUES TO INCREASE . WE ANTICIPATE IN THE FUTURE NEEDING TO ADD A COUPLE MORE POSITIONS IN TO FIRE INSPECTIONS TO UP ON OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT AND BY THE WAY, IF YOU GOT QUESTIONS YOU DON'T HAVE TO WAIT TO THE END I KNOW THE BOSS LIKES TO WAIT THE END BUT THE THE ORIGINAL REQUEST FOR 2025 I'M NOT KEEPING UP WITH MY SLIDES SO OUR REQUEST FOR 2025 WAS TWO ADDITIONAL FIRE ASSISTANT FIRE CHIEF POSITIONS PROMOTE, THREE MORE FIRE CAPTAINS AND AN INCREASE IN ESTIMATED COSTS.  I WILL TELL YOU THAT OUT OF THIS SLIDE CAME ON SIX ADDITIONAL FIREFIGHTING POSITIONS BUT I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT JUST IN A MINUTE BECAUSE AS YOU MOST MOST OF YOU KNOW, WE WE WERE SUCCESSFUL IN ANOTHER SAFER GRANT APPLICATION. SO THE TWO ADDITIONAL ASSISTANT FIRE CHIEF POSITIONS ONE CURRENTLY IS IN OPERATIONS AND WE'LL ADD ONE FOR EMS AND ONE FOR TRAINING PROMOTE THREE MORE FIRE CAPTAINS AND THAT WILL EFFECTIVELY GIVE US SUPERVISION ON ONE MORE FIRE ENGINE THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THREE FIRE ENGINES WITH OUR CAREER CAPTAINS ON IT AND WE'LL ADD ANOTHER ONE SO WE'LL FOREVER ENGINES WILL HAVE CREW SUPERVISION AND THAT THOSE PROMOTION IS JUST PROMOTE FROM WITHIN THE FIREFIGHTER RANKS IT DOESN'T ADD MORE FIREFIGHTERS IT'S USING EXISTING FIREFIGHTERS WE HAD AND PROMOTING THEM AND THAT ESTIMATED OVERTIME COST AS WE GAIN MORE EXPERIENCE WITH CAREER OPERATION WE'RE GETTING A BETTER HANDLE ON SOME OF OUR COSTS WITH THAT THIS IF YOU LOOK AT IT UM IS THE BUDGET AND IT'S JUST UNDER NET INCREASE IS JUST UNDER $2.1 MILLION MOST OF THAT IS SO GIVE ME THE NEXT SLIDE THAT BUT BREAKDOWN OF CHANGES SO INCREASE IN SALARY BENEFITS AND FOR EXISTING CURRENT STAFF IS 630,000 PROJECTED OVERTIME COSTS. I MENTIONED THAT RIGHT ALREADY THAT'S 140,000 ADDITIONAL TO ASSISTANT CHIEF'S POSITIONS WITH 223,000 PROMOTING THE THREE FIREFIGHTERS 42 NEW EQUIPMENT THAT GOT BACK IN AFTER WE TOOK THE COST OF THE SIX FIREFIGHTERS OUT IF YOU REMEMBER WE HAD THAT DISCUSSION PRIOR TO SO THAT'S THE NEW EQUIPMENT FOR NEW SAFER FIREFIGHTERS THAT WE GOT COMING.  INTERNAL CHARGES OF SOME INCREASES FOR INTERNAL CHARGES SERVICES SOME INCREASES IN PROFESSIONAL AND MEDICAL CONTRACT CONTRACTUAL SERVICES AND THEN WE LOSE ARP FUNDING FOR THE THREE BATTALION CHIEFS THAT WE MADE AND WE'RE PAYING WITH EVERY ARP DOLLARS AND AS YOU CAN SEE IT'S JUST UNDER $2.1 MILLION TOTAL COST STAFF FUNDING REQUESTS.  SO FUTURE REQUESTS WE WANT TO CONTINUE ADDING FIREFIGHTERS LIKE I SAID WE GOT OR AWARDED MUCH TO MY SURPRISE ANOTHER SAFER GRANT FOR ANOTHER 18 FIREFIGHTERS. SO SOME OF THOSE ANNUAL ADDITIONS TO OUR STAFFING ARE GOING TO BE CONSOLIDATED GUESS IS THE BEST WAY TO PUT IT SO WE DON'T HAVE SIX ADDITIONAL PLUS THE SAFER IN 25 AND I WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT SAME IN SIX THAT WE WOULD NOT ADD IN 26 BECAUSE IN 2026 AS YOU RECALL THE 18 FIREFIGHTERS THAT WE FIRST HIRED WITH OUR SAFER GRANT ARE COMING OFF THE SAVE FOR GRANT IN 26 BUT A QUARTER OF THE WAY THROUGH THE YEAR. SO MAYOR IS WHERE I'VE GOT MY QUESTION I'M GO AHEAD SO COME SO WE SAY CONTINUE ADDING FIREFIGHTERS AND I LIKE HOW YOU LAID THAT OUT CHIEF WHAT I'M CURIOUS ABOUT IS YOU KNOW EACH YEAR WHAT YEAR WILL WE REACH OUR GOAL AND I KNOW THAT THAT THAT'S A YOU KNOW, A MOVING TARGET BASED ON, YOU KNOW, RETIREMENTS AND OTHER OTHER TYPES OF THINGS. BUT IN YOUR MIND IF YOU HAD TO ,YOU KNOW, PICK A DATE WHEN WE'D GET TO THAT THAT THAT THAT NUMBER OR WHATEVER THE TOTAL NUMBER WE'RE LOOKING AT WHEN WOULD THAT BE SO IF NOT BUT AS WE ADD THESE NEW 18 THAT GET US TO 48. SIMPLE MATH GIVES YOU 32 MORE TO GET TO 80 AND IF WE ADD SIX A YEAR THAT'S FIVE MORE YEARS. SO WE'RE GOING TO SKIP COUPLE OF YEARS BECAUSE OF THAT.  YES. SO KIND OF COMING OUT THAT'S RIGHT. SO MAYBE SEVEN YEARS OUT OR WELL IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY.  YES, SEVEN YEARS OUT.  FIVE YEARS FROM FROM 2028 WHICH WOULD GET YOU TO 3032, 3033 OR EXCUSE ME 20, 20, 30 THAT'S A BIT OF A STRETCH BUT 20, 20, 30 WOW. THIS IS LIKE ME TRY TO TALK TO MY MATH DOING WAY FOR THE FINANCE PERSON SO THOSE THOSE I WANT TO BE CAUTIOUS ABOUT THIS THOUGH BECAUSE TO ME A PLAN IS NOT SOMETHING GETS CARVED INTO STONE. THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT CAN CHANGE IN FIVE YEARS. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT CAN CHANGE IN SEVEN YEARS AND I JUST WANT YOU TO BE AWARE OF THAT BOTH POSITIVE NEGATIVE THAT COULD AFFECT THAT STAFFING PLAN CURRENTLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO IS BEING ABLE TO STAFF FIVE UNITS PRETTY MUCH ALL THE TIME WITH THE ADDITIONAL 18 BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY ADDING SIX FIREFIGHTERS A SHIFT AND CONTINUE TO WORK TOWARDS THAT EIGHT SO WE CAN STAFF ALL SIX AND THEN SECONDARILY WITH THAT THAT RISK OF WAITING OUT THOSE SEVEN YEARS BASICALLY ARE ARE THE RISKS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT YOU KNOW, FROM A YOU KNOW FROM A FROM A FIRE STANDPOINT OR YOU KNOW, FROM A YOU KNOW, I KNOW YOU'RE GOING SHOW US SOME SLIDES LATER ON BUT WE WE ARE DOING BETTER RIGHT NOW THAN WE WERE WHEN WE STARTED THIS PROCESS BECAUSE OF OUR PROBLEMS WITH THE RESPONSE OUR RESPONSE IS MUCH OUR RESPONSE TIME HAS IMPROVED CONSIDERABLY WHERE WE'RE NOT AS GOOD AS WE WERE IN FURTHER HISTORY IS GETTING ENOUGH PEOPLE ON THE FIRE GROUND AT ONCE BUT THAT'S JUST A FUNCTION OF THE AVAILABLE PEOPLE AND WHAT PEOPLE CAN GIVE US. SO THE ONLY WAY TO SPEED THIS IS TO ADD MORE PEOPLE MORE QUICKLY AND THAT HAS A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT. I THINK THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT COUNCIL GAVE ME DIRECTION TO APPLY FOR ANOTHER SAFER IS SO WE CAN KIND OF MAKE THAT LEAP AGAIN AND ANOTHER 18 AND THAT'S THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW I KNOW WHAT THE TAX LEVY DISCUSSIONS ARE HAVE BEEN ABOUT FOR BOTH 25 AND 26 SO THAT'S WHY I THINK IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE SINCE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT ADDING A YEAR TO BE CERTAINLY DELAYING THOSE TIMES FOR 25 AND 26 SINCE WE'RE ADDING 18 IN ONE SHOT THAT WOULD BE STARTING IN 25.  WE'RE FORTUNATE IN THAT THEIR SALARY AND BENEFITS ARE GOING TO BE COVERED BY THE GRANT FOR THREE YEARS JUST LIKE THIS LAST ONE WAS AND THAT'S ALL SALARY AND BENEFITS SO SO WITH THAT IN MIND YOU KNOW WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO PREDICT THE FUTURE CLEARLY WE'RE GOT A HUGE LEAP ON THIS. WE'RE GOT A HUGE JUMP ON THIS. I MEAN TRUE OF TRUTHFULLY WE'VE GONE FROM SEVEN COMMAND STAFF TO 48 FIREFIGHTERS IN THREE YEARS SO COMES FROM DALLAS HOW DO THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I HAVE A JUST A QUICK QUESTION . I I THINK I'M RECALLING CORRECTLY THAT WHEN WE FIRST STARTED TALKING ABOUT THIS MOVE WE SAID 75 FULL TIME FIREFIGHTERS AND 60 PAID ON CALL FIREFIGHTERS AND NOW I UNDERSTAND WE'RE SAYING 80 FULL TIME FIREFIGHTERS AND 75 PAID ON CALL FIREFIGHTERS. WHAT'S THE WHY ARE WE WHY ARE WE ADDING FIVE AND 15 RESPECTIVELY?  CHIEF MR. MAYOR, IT'S A LITTLE DALLESSANDRO AS I HAD STATED WHEN THAT FIRST PLAN WAS PUT FORTH IT WAS PUT FORTH BECAUSE COUNCIL REALLY INTERESTED IN SOME FINAL NUMBERS.  WHEN I DID PUT THAT PLAN FORTH I WAS PRETTY I TRIED TO BE PRETTY CLEAR IN THAT THIS IS YOU KNOW AS WE GAIN MORE EXPERIENCE THINGS WILL CHANGE. WE'RE GAINING MORE EXPERIENCE, THINGS ARE CHANGING AND I DON'T NASA'S WANT TO DISCOURAGE YOU FROM THE POTENTIAL THAT THINGS MAY CHANGE MORE YET BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF VARIABLES HERE ONE OF THE VARIABLES IS OBVIOUSLY IF OUR OUR ABILITY TO HIRE MORE PART TIME PEOPLE ANOTHER VARIABLE IS OUR ABILITY TO HIRE TIME PEOPLE. THEY ARE HIRING A LOT OF FIREFIGHTERS AROUND THE METRO AREA IN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS THERE'S LIKE 56 POSITIONS BEING HIRED BETWEEN ME AND TWO OTHER DEPARTMENTS. SO WE NEED TO BE AWARE OF THAT FACT AND HOW ALL THIS IS GOING TO AFFECT THE PROCESS. SO I AM DOING MY BEST MY PLAN IS TO GIVE YOU SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE DEFINITIVE BUT PLANS ARE TO ME SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO PULL THE PLAN OUT AND PENCIL WITH IT BECAUSE NOTHING'S GOING TO STAY THE SAME NEXT YOU TALK ABOUT ENHANCED SERVICE DELIVERY IS A LITTLE IN 2023 WE STARTED A PARAMEDIC ENGINE PROGRAM AND THE EFFORT WAS TO HAVE A PARAMEDIC FIREFIGHTER ON EACH ENGINE TO PROVIDE ENHANCED MEDICAL INTERVENTIONS AND THOSE MUCH MORE QUICKLY.  AND IT WAS IN RESPONSE TO SOME OF THE DIFFICULTY THAT OUR ELITE PARTNERS IN HEALTH PROVIDERS WERE HAVING WITH GETTING AMBULANCES TO US IN A TIMELY MANNER AND THAT I'M VERY HAPPY TO SAY HAS BEEN WORKING VERY WELL.  WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO GET PARAMEDIC ON EACH OF OUR ENGINES MOST OF THE TIME AND PROVIDING THOSE ENHANCED INTERVENTIONS TO PEOPLE IN MEDICAL NEED MUCH MORE QUICKLY AND THAT INCLUDES BOTH PHARMACEUTICAL OR AND MECHANICAL SO MORE ADVANCED AIRWAYS BEING ABLE TO GET DRUGS ON BOARD TO ASSIST PEOPLE THAT ARE EITHER IN PAIN OR IN CARDIAC ARREST.  AND IT ALSO COMPORTS WITH A CHANGE IN HOW EMS BEING PROVIDED IN A LOT OF PLACES OF THE COUNTRY AND THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT THEY ARE REALIZING THAT IT TAKES TO ADEQUATE CARE TO SOMEBODY THAT'S IN CRITICAL AND CRITICAL CARE CRITICAL CARE SITUATION ARE TRAINING AND OPERATIONAL PROGRAMS TO MEET CURRENT OUR CURRENT CHALLENGES OUR FIRE ENVIRONMENT CHANGES YOU'VE HEARD ME TALK ABOUT OUR FIRING ENVIRONMENT BEFORE BASED UPON HOW THINGS ARE BUILT, WHAT THEY'RE CONSTRUCTED OF WE GET MUCH MORE RAPID HEAT RELEASE RATES, MUCH RAPID FIRE GROWTH. IT MAKES IT MUCH MORE DIFFICULT FOR ASPECTS OF OUR POPULATION TO GET OUT OF A BUILDING THAT EVEN HAS SMOKE DETECTORS IN IT.  AND THOSE TWO GROUPS ARE THE ELDERLY AND CHILDREN.  SO THAT RESPONSE TIME THAT WAS IDENTIFIED AS BEING VERY CRITICAL BY OUR OUR FIRE SERVICE ASSESSMENT STILL VERY CRITICAL TO OUR ABILITY TO PROVIDE SERVICES THAT ARE BUILT ENVIRONMENT AS YOU WELL KNOW THE DENSIFICATION THE CHANGES IN OUR CONSTRUCTED ENVIRONMENT AND THEY WANT TO CONTINUE TO MAKE CHANGES SOME IDEAS I'M NOT VERY FOND OF LIKE CREATING THESE FOUR AND FIVE STOREY BUILDINGS WITH JUST ONE STAIRWELL AND THINGS THAT YOU WILL UNDOUBTEDLY SEE IN YOUR DEVELOPMENT PROCESS SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE THAT WILL EITHER HAVE ME OR OR SOME OF MY COMPATRIOTS FIDGETING BECAUSE.  THEY'RE NOT REALLY GOOD IDEAS IN OUR MINDS BUT I RECOGNIZE THAT WE DON'T ALWAYS HOLD SWAY . THE OTHER THING IS IN OUR RESCUE ENVIRONMENT OR SO WE'VE TALKED ABOUT FIRE ENVIRONMENT, BUILT ENVIRONMENT, MEDICAL THE MEDICAL AND OUR RESCUE ENVIRONMENT IN THIS CITY HAS BOTH URBAN AND RURAL RESCUE.  SO WE HAVE TO TRAIN FOR BOTH WE HAVE TO TRAIN FOR THE URBAN RESCUE CHALLENGES AS WELL AS THE THE THE RURAL OR MORE WILDLAND RESCUE CHALLENGES BECAUSE OF OUR OUR OUR TREMENDOUS PARK SYSTEM.  SO THAT I'M NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT THAT'S JUST A OF LIFE POTENTIAL REVENUE ENHANCEMENTS I CAN'T FORESEE THE FUTURE VERY WELL AS FAR AS REVENUE IN THE FIRE SERVICE BECAUSE TYPICALLY WE HAVE NOT BEEN GREAT REVENUE BUT THE THINGS I WANT TO POINT TO IS OUR EFFORTS WE'VE MADE BOTH WITH OUR SAFER GRANTS BUT ALSO OUR AFC GRANTS AND WE'VE GOT THOSE EXHAUST SYSTEMS PUT INTO OUR FIRE STATIONS USING AFC GRANTS HIRED 48 FIREFIGHTERS OR WE'LL WILL HAVE HIRED 48 FIREFIGHTER IS USING OUR SAFER GRANT DOLLARS.  WE ALSO GET TRAINING FUNDS FROM THE MINNESOTA BOARD OF FIRE TRAINING AND EDUCATION AND OUR VERY CLOSELY TRACK OUR TRAINING COSTS THROUGH THE YEAR.  AND WHILE THEY WILL GIVE US AN INITIAL DISTRIBUTION BASED UPON OUR PER FIREFIGHTER AMOUNT IF NOT IF ALL THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS IN THE STATE DON'T UTILIZE DOLLARS THEY REDISTRIBUTE REDISTRIBUTE LEFTOVER DOLLARS TO US AND BECAUSE WE TURN IN ALL OUR COSTS WE WERE ABLE TO GET ANOTHER $77,000 IN THE SECOND HALF OF THIS YEAR OF DISTRIBUTION FROM THAT. SO WE'RE CONSTANTLY LOOKING FOR THE MONEY THAT IS AVAILABLE AND MAKING THAT WE WE GOT A TOLL ON THE DOOR THEN THE 2% STATE FIRE AID FOR PENSION CONTRIBUTION THAT HELPS REDUCE THE CONTRIBUTION TO THE TO THE PART TIME PENSION FUND AND THAT'S A MANDATED PASS THROUGH AND THIS YEAR IT'S A LITTLE OVER $800,000 $880,000 I BELIEVE. COUNCILMEMBER QUESTION YES.  THANK YOU, CHIEF. BACK TO THE SAFER GRANT AWARDS . DO YOU KNOW DO WE HAVE A LIMIT ON HOW MANY TIMES WE CAN APPLY ? I'M WONDERING IF WE COULD DO A THIRD SWEEP LIKE REALLY GET TO THE FINISH LINE. THERE IS NO LIMIT I I'VE ALREADY EXPENDED ALL THE GOODWILL I HAVE WITH MY NEIGHBORING CHIEFS IF I GET IN TWO IN A ROW BUT WE COULD DO BUT WE COULD CERTAINLY APPLY FOR ANOTHER ONE WE MORE THAN HAPPY APPLY FOR ANOTHER ONE THIS GRANT WRITER WE USE HAS BEEN VERY GOOD SO HE GOT US OUR AFGE GRANTS.  HE ALSO GOT US BOTH SAFER GRANTS SO WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT THE COUNCIL SO DIRECTS WHICH I WOULD BE COMPLETELY SUPPORTIVE OF I THINK I WOULD LOVE TO GET THERE FASTER RATHER THAN LATER AND SO WHEREVER WE CAN DO TO GET ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO HELP THAT I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THAT SUPPORT. OKAY .  WE DO GET SOME PERMIT FEES FOR OUR OUR FIRE PREVENTION DIVISION FIRE MARSHAL OPERATIONAL LICENSE AND PERMIT REVENUE PLAN CHECKING SPRINKLER FIRE ALARM PERMITS AND YOU CAN SEE THAT'S NOT A LOT OF MONEY. IT'S ABOUT $230,000 A YEAR THAT WE GET OUT OF THAT. SO OUR WE TALK ABOUT REDUCTION OF SERVICE REDUCTION IMPACTS. I THINK WE'RE WE'VE WE'RE TRYING TO CRAWL OUT OF A SERVICE REDUCTION THAT WAS UPON STAFFING ISSUES NOT BASED UPON MONETARY ISSUES AT THE TIME. SO OUR MISSION RIGHT IN WITH THE CITY MISSION AND OURS IS TO PREVENT PRESERVATION AND PROTECTION OF LIFE, PROPERTY AND THE ENVIRONMENT AND AND AND THE CITY'S OVERALL MISSION IS TO CULTIVATE AN ENDURING A REMARKABLE COMMUNITY WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO BE AND THEY DOVETAIL RIGHT TOGETHER IN A SAFE ENVIRONMENT AND.  A REMARKABLE, REMARKABLE COMMUNITY ARE BOTH COEXISTING SO WE CAN AT IMPACT OF SERVICE REDUCTIONS SOME OF THIS WE'RE CRAWLING OUT OF WE'VE HAD WE'RE GETTING OUT OF THOSE SLOWER EMERGENCY RESPONSE THE POPULATION AS THE POPULATION CONTINUES GROW MORE AND MORE PEOPLE IN THE CITY MORE PEOPLE CALL 911 AND 911 IS ONE OF THOSE PLACES WHERE YOU DON'T CALL TO MAKE AN APPOINTMENT. YOU CALL TO GET SERVICE RIGHT AWAY. SO WE HAVE TO BE READY 24 HOURS A DAY. HIGHER INSURANCE COSTS THAT'S A POSSIBILITY AND.  I HAVE ALREADY TALKED TO YOU ABOUT OUR ISO REVIEW. WE'VE GOT THE RESULTS FROM THE ISO REVIEW BUT WE'VE GOT SOME DICKERING BACK AND FORTH WITH RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THEY'VE MADE CHANGES THAT W DON'T UNDERSTAND. THEY INCREASED OUR ROAD MILES BY 100%. WE WENT FROM 319 ROAD MILES TO 790 ROAD MILES AND WE DON'T UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY GOT THAT NUMBER AND AT THE SAME TIME THEY LISTED OUR POPULATION IS 80,000. SO I'VE GOT SOME QUIBBLES WITH ISO WHICH IS NOT NEW FOR ANYBODY THAT KNOWS ME BUT WE'LL WORK THROUGH THOSE BEFORE WE I COME BACK TO YOU WITH A FINAL ONE SO LIMITED FIRE PREVENTION EFFORTS WITH YOU KNOW WITHOUT ADEQUATE COVERAGE THAT BECOMES MORE AND MORE OF AN ISSUE AS.  WELL, THE MORE PEOPLE YOU HAVE IN THE CITY I'M GOING TO GOT BEHIND A LETTER WE GOT WE'LL CATCH BACK UP. SO ONE OF THE THINGS I REALLY WANTED TO TALK ABOUT AND BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS I ALSO WENT BY THE SLIDE PROGRAM THAT YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE SEEN OR DIDN'T I KNOW COUNCIL MEMBER DALLESSANDRO CALLED CAUGHT THE DIFFERENCE IN THE COUNT BUT IT'S ALSO MY MY FIRM BELIEF THAT WE NEED A STAFF FOR PEOPLE ON EACH OF THOSE ENGINES RIGHT NOW ON BUILDING THE THREE TRYING TO STAFF THREE PEOPLE ON ALL THOSE ENGINES BUT I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT EQUITY OF COVERAGE AND EQUITY SERVICE TO ALL OF OUR CITIZENS AND COMMUNITY AND THAT'S SIX STATIONS ARE IMPORTANT AND THE QUICKER I CAN GET THOSE SIX STATIONS OPEN AND OPERATING THE BETTER. SO WE'RE ELECTING TO STAFF THOSE ENGINES WITH THREE AND OPEN HAVE MORE STATIONS OPEN I COULD STAFF LESS STATIONS AND HAVE THEM OPEN WITH FOUR BUT I THINK IT'S THE OF COVERAGE IS REALLY IMPORTANT BUT ULTIMATELY WE WANT TO GET FOUR ON EACH OF THOSE SIX ENGINES AND YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN SOME THIS BEFORE WHERE WE'VE GOT A FAIRLY WELL INVOLVED STRUCTURE WITH ONE FIREFIGHTER STRETCHING A HOSE LINE OR TO ON A HOSE LINE AND HAVING A NEAR-MISS ANOTHER ONE INVOLVED STRUCTURE FIRE WHERE WE GET TWO FIREFIGHTERS AND THIS ONE WAS WAS ONE WHERE THAT FIRST IN ENGINE ACTUALLY CAME FROM A WAYS AWAY WE AT THAT TIME THEY ONLY HAD THREE STATIONS STAFFED WE DID NOT HAVE FOUR STATION STAFF CURRENTLY WERE STAFF STAFFING ONE STATION ONE STATION THREE, STATION FOUR AND STATION FIVE ALMOST ALL THE TIME WHEN WE CAN WE STAFF STATION SIX WE USED TO STAFF STATION SIX WE MOVED IT DOWN TO FIVE BECAUSE OUR NUMBER OF CALLS IN THAT AREA WERE MUCH GREATER THAN THE CALLS UP UP BASE STATION SIX BUT WE STILL HAVE CALLS UP BY FIRE STATION SIX AND WE'RE WE'RE COVERING THOSE WITH FOUR AND FIVE RIGHT NOW JUST LIKE WE'RE COVERING STATION AREA CALLS WITH STATION ONE AND STATION FOUR AND STATION FIVE. SO THIS HAPPENED TO BE A CALL AND STATION FIVE AREA WHERE ENGINE FOUR WAS THE FIRST ENGINE IN AND.  THEY WERE ALSO ONE OF THOSE CREWS THAT STRETCHED OUR HAND LINE WITH A TWO PERSON CREW TO A FAIRLY WELL INVOLVED STRUCTURE FIRE AND THE OTHER POINT OF THE SLIDE IS RESPONSE TIME IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE REALLY HAVE FIRE INVOLVING THE ROOF AND ONE GARAGE REALLY ONE GARAGE STALL AND WHILE WE'RE WAITING FOR THE ENGINE TO SHOW UP. IT EXTENDS TO FULLY INVOLVED BOTH GARAGE STALLS AND STARTS EXTENDING INTO THE HOUSE. SO A RAPID RESPONSE FOR FIRES AS WELL AS.  MEDICAL EMERGENCIES IS REALLY IMPORTANT IN THE LAST ONE YOU KNOW, COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN, YOU REMEMBER THIS ONE 112 BLOCK UNION YOU WERE IN ONCE AGAIN A WELL INVOLVED STRUCTURE FIRE WITH WITH A TWO PERSON CREW. SO I'M A FIRM BELIEVER THAT WE WANT TO GET TO THAT FOUR PERSON CREW FOR NOT ONLY OUR FIRES BUT ALSO OUR EMS. WE REALLY WORKING HARD ON SOMETHING WE CALL PIT CREW. WE EMS WHERE WE FOR LACK OF A BETTER ANALOGY TREAT OUR PATIENT WITH A PIT CREW WHERE EACH PERSON HAS A SPECIFIC RESPONSIBILITY TO TAKE CARE THAT PATIENT ONE WILL TAKE CARE OF THE AIRWAY, ANOTHER TAKES CARE OF CIRCULATION THIRD BE STARTING AN I.V. OR GETTING A LINE FORTH YOU KNOW SO WE WERE WE'RE REALLY WORKING WITH THAT IN MIND AND SO OUR CRITICAL CARE CALLS NOW EVEN THOUGH WE SEND A THREE PERSON ENGINE WILL ALSO SEND A CHIEF SO WE CAN WORK THAT PATIENT WITH AT LEAST FOUR PEOPLE AND I'M OPEN FOR QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AND THE INFORMATION, CHIEF.  APPRECIATE IT. THE QUESTION THAT CAME TO MIND FOR SO YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT THE COST OF PERSONNEL OBVIOUSLY AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE FOCUSING ON BUT WHAT'S THE DELTA OF THE NEW FIRE STATIONS? YOU KNOW WHAT IS THE COST OF OPERATING A FIRE STATION 24 SEVEN LIKE YOU NEED TO AND HOUSING FIREFIGHTERS AND NOT NOT THE NOT THE CONSTRUCTION COST BUT THE THE OPERATIONAL COST OF THOSE OF THOSE NEW FIRE STATIONS.  SO TWO STAFF ONE UNIT 24 SEVEN IT TAKES PROBABLY TO 12 FIREFIGHTERS 11 OR 12 FIREFIGHTERS 24 SEVEN WITH THREE IF YOU'RE GOING STAFF IT WITH FOUR, IT'S GOING TO GOING TO TAKE 16 FIREFIGHTERS AND I WASN'T MAKING CLEAR OBVIOUSLY I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE PERSONNEL IN THERE. I'M TALKING THE BUILDING ITSELF TO TO TURN THE LIGHTS ON, TO RUN THE WATER, TO KEEP IT CLEAN TO HEAT AND COOL IT THE THOSE FULL TIME FACILITIES AS OPPOSED TO THE THE FIRE BURNS. I MEAN THERE'S GOT TO BE A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN COST IN RUNNING ONE OF THOSE THINGS I'D HAVE TO CHECK ON THAT I CAN GET THAT NUMBER FOR YOU BECAUSE I KNOW WE'VE STARTED TRACKING IT THERE'S SOME EFFICIENCIES WE GOT WITH THE NEW CONSTRUCTIONS AND SOME IMPROVEMENTS GOT IN OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCY WITH THE NEW CONSTRUCTION THAT WE DIDN'T WITH THE OLD. SO WHILE I THINK OUR COST WILL INCREASE, THEY WON'T INCREASE PROBABLY AS MUCH AS WE THINK A LOT OF THE INCREASE IS GOING TO BE DUE TO THE INCREASE SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT WE'VE ADDED WHEN WE BUILT THOSE PLACES. BUT JUST THE FACT OF HAVING PEOPLE THERE AND THE SPACE AND EVERYTHING ELSE ONCE THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS ARE DONE KEEPING THE BUILDINGS RUNNING WITH THE LIGHTS ON AND EVERYTHING ELSE PROBABLY IS NOT A GREAT INCREASE AS YOU'D THINK. BUT LET ME GET THOSE NUMBERS FOR YOU AND BRING THEM BACK THANK YOU AND I APPRECIATE THAT JUST BECAUSE IT'S THE ONE THING THAT WE DON'T WE ABOUT THE COST OF BUILDING THOSE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT THE NEW PERSONNEL BUT JUST THE HOW MUCH OPERATE THE CELLS SO AND CONSIDERING WE'RE DOING THE NUMBER WE'RE DOING OF SOMETHING WORTH THINKING ABOUT ABSOLUTELY.  COUNCILMEMBER THANK YOU. MAYOR I'LL BE PRETTY FRANK I HAVE NO INTEREST IN REDUCING THE FIREFIGHTER BUDGET OR ANYTHING TO THAT MATTER. I HAVE BEEN A FULL SUPPORTER OF A FIRE FIRE DEPARTMENT SINCE I STARTED LIVING IN BLOOMINGTON AND I WATCHED MY CHILDHOOD HOME BURNED DOWN WHEN I WAS AN ADULT. I WENT HOME WHEN MY PARENTS CALLED AND SAID THE HOUSE IS ON FIRE. I'M AN HOUR AND A HALF AWAY MY TIME I GOT HOME, OUR HOUSE WAS BURNED DOWN AND I'LL TELL YOU THERE'S 1/2 THAT I THOUGHT OH, HOW MUCH DID THIS COST FOR THE FIREFIGHTERS TO BE HERE? I WAS JUST HAPPY THEY WERE THERE OR HAPPY WE SAVED SOME MEMENTOS FROM OUR HOUSE. I'M HAPPY THAT MY PARENTS WERE ALIVE. AND THEN THE SUMMER WATCHING THE THE XERXES HOUSE CATCH ON FIRE A BLOCK AND A HALF AWAY FROM MY HOUSE JUST REAFFIRMED TO ME THAT WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT GET FULLY STAFFED SO THAT WE DON'T PEOPLE'S HOMES BURNING DOWN BECAUSE OF THAT RESPONSE TIME SO THAT OUR FIREFIGHTERS CAN GET THERE BECAUSE STATION TWO'S BLOCK AND A HALF AWAY STATION TWO IS STAFFED BUT THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN THERE IN A MINUTE AND HALF THAT FIRE WOULD HAVE BEEN TINY. WE WOULDN'T HAVE THE SAME DAMAGE THAT WE DO RIGHT NOW AND I'VE WATCHED THEM TAKE FIVE MONTHS TO FINALLY PUT A NEW ROOF ON THAT HOUSE AND SO I HAVE NO INTEREST IN MOVE REMOVING ANYTHING FROM BUDGET. I APPRECIATE YOU CHIEF FOR OFFERING BUT.  I WANT TO SEE US GET UP AND RUNNING AS FAST AS WE CAN TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN KEEP THE RESIDENTS OF UNION SAFE. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS I DO WANT TO SAY THIS I TRULY THE SUPPORT THE COUNCIL HAS GIVEN US THEY GAVE US THE SUPPORT TO APPLY FOR THE FIRST SAFER GRANT THEY'VE FUNDED THE THE FIRE SERVICE ASSESSMENT.  THEY LOOKED AT THAT ASSESSMENT AND TOOK IT TO HEART AND.  NOW THIS SECOND SAFER GRANT APPLICATION I'LL BE COMPLETELY BLUNT THERE ARE SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES OUT THERE WHERE COUNCILS WON'T LET THEM APPLY FOR A SAFER GRANT THEY LET THEM SEEK OUT SOME OF THESE REVENUE OPPORTUNITIES BECAUSE THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT PICKING UP THE TAIL THE END. I TRULY APPRECIATE THE EFFORT AND THE SUPPORT YOU GUYS HAVE GIVEN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND IT'S IT'S BEEN IT'S GOTTEN US TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY.  OH WELL SAID COUNCIL MEMBER COUNCIL IF ARE OTHER QUESTIONS OROMMENTS QUICK ONES BECAUSE I'M KEEPING AN EYE ON THE CLOCK HERE WE STILL HAVE ONE MORE PRESENTATION HERE ABOUT THE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES FUND SO QUICK ONE COUNCILMEMBER NELSON JUST A QUICK ONE PLEASE DON'T TAKE THIS THE WRONG QUESTION BECAUSE I DO SUPPORT THE DEPARTMENT. IT'S GOING TO BE VERY QUICK BUT LISTEN SO THIS QUESTION CAME OUT OF A CONVERSATION I HAD REGARDING BURNSVILLE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND BURNSVILLE IS ABOUT TWO THIRDS OF THE LANDMASS OF BLOOMINGTON. THAT'S ABOUT TWO THIRDS OF THE POPULATION AND IT HAS TWO FIRE STATIONS AND.  THERE IS A COST FOR EACH FIRE STATION AND SO THERE ARE DIFFERENCES WITH US BECAUSE WE HAVE , YOU KNOW, NORM AND DALE TOWERS. WE HAVE MORE AMERICA. WE HAVE HIGHLAND WHICH MAKES YOU HAVE TO DRIVE AROUND. SO I TRIED TO EXPLAIN TO THE INDIVIDUAL THAT WAS THERE BUT COULD YOU ADDRESS THAT LIKE YOU KNOW, WHY DOES BLOOMINGTON HAVE SIX WHEN BURNSVILLE TWO AND HAS RESPONSE TIMES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ABOUT 6 MINUTES THEY'RE FULLY STAFFED. YOU AND I BELIEVE IN THEIRS WHICH IS WHERE WE'RE GETTING TO. SO THAT HELPS WITH THEIR RESPONSE TIMES. BUT I THINK THE CONCERN WAS RAISED WAS ARE WE TAKING THE NUMBER OF WE NEEDED WHEN WE WEREN'T STAFFED AND THAT SAME NUMBER NOW THAT WE ARE STAFFED ? OKAY SO I'LL TRY TO ANSWER THAT QUICK QUESTION QUICKLY GIVE YOU A COUPLE OF DEMOGRAPHIC DIFFERENCES BETWEEN US AND BURNSVILLE LAND MASS IS ONE POPULATION IS ANOTHER AND REALLY IF YOU LOOK AT THE DEVELOPMENT WE HAVE IN THIS, IT'S CONSIDERABLY DIFFERENT THAN BURNSVILLE. WE PROBABLY HAVE 60 HIGH RISE BUILDINGS AND BESIDES THE MALL OF AMERICA WE'VE ALSO GOT SOME PRETTY INTENSE INDUSTRIAL COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY AS WELL AS SOME VERY HIGH DENSITY MULTIFAMILY HOUSING.  SO I THINK THOSE ARE SOME CRITICAL DIFFERENCES. I WILL TELL YOU THAT FIRE STATION LOCATION DONE BY THE PEOPLE WHO DO THAT ALL OVER THE COUNTRY ARE DONE BASED UPON RESPONSE TIMES WE HAD A BOUT AN EIGHT MINUTE TIME LAG AND OUR RESPONSE TIME JUST GETTING A TRUCK OUT THE DOOR WHEN WE WEREN'T STATIONS BECAUSE IT TOOK AT LEAST FOUR OR 5 MINUTES TO GET DOWN THE FIREFIGHTERS TO GET THE STATION, GET THIS TRUCK TRUCK STAFFED AND THEN GET IT OUT THE DOOR SO WE WERE HAVING QUITE A TIME DIFFERENCE JUST GETTING SO YES OUR RESPONSE TIME IS IMPROVED CAN YOU DO IT WITH LESS?  THAT'S THE THING ABOUT FIRE SERVICE YOU CAN SET THE LEVEL OF FIRE SERVICE YOU WANT IN YOUR COMMUNITY DO ANYTHING WANT.  I WILL TELL YOU THAT BURNSVILLE HAS THAT POINT WHERE THEY'RE STARTING TO BREAK AND THEY PUT IN FOR A SAFER GRANT THIS YEAR THEY ARE MOVING TO HIRE MORE PEOPLE THIS YEAR EVEN WITHOUT THE SAFER GRANT MUCH LIKE MINNETONKA AND EDEN PRAIRIE BOTH PUT IN FOR SAFER GRANTS AND THEY ARE ALSO ADDING CAREER PEOPLE BECAUSE OF THIS ISSUE ABOUT BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE SERVICE.  SO I THINK RESPONSE TIME AND THERE'S A STATISTIC THAT WAS IN THE PRESENTATION THAT I PASSED OVER RATHER QUICKLY IS ALSO AFFECTED BY MANY CALLS YOU HAVE CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW ABOUT 60% OF THE TIME WE HAVE A CALL IN IN IN IN PROCESS WE HAVE MORE THAN ONE CALL IN PROCESS. WE HAVE TWO OR THREE CALLS HAPPENING AT THE SAME TIME. SO WHEN YOU STAFF FOUR RIGS IN THE CITY AND YOU HAVE THREE CALLS HAPPENING AT THE SAME TIME YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. THERE IS ALSO A PERCENTAGE OF THE TIME THAT HAVE FOUR OR FIVE CALLS GOING ON AT THE SAME TIME. SO I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT OUR OUR OUR CALL LOAD IS GOING TO BE VERY CLOSE TO OR EQUAL TO BURNS HILLS AND THERE ARE RUNNING AND ELSE SERVICE IS THAT PRETTY FAIR STUDY. YEAH THAT'S WHAT THE STANDARD AIR COVER STUDY WAS REALLY BASED ON WAS THAT RESPONSE TIME AND ROAD MILES TO PROVIDE GOOD SERVICE, EQUITABLE SERVICE, YOU KNOW AND IT'S LIKE LIKE COUNCILMEMBER MENTIONED I HAVE A STATION SHUT DOWN AND THAT'S I HAVE MY PROBLEM AND IT MAKES MAKES EVERYBODY LOOK BAD SO THANK YOU FOR THE DETAILED RESPONSE. I APPRECIATE I WAS NOT TRYING TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT ON ON OR SAY THAT I WAS WRONG. I JUST IT WAS A QUESTION THAT HAD COME UP YOU KNOW, JUST I WAS TRYING TO LOOK AT MAKE SURE WE PROVIDE THE SERVICE EFFICIENTLY AND COST EFFECTIVELY. AND SO I SUPPORT ADDING THE PEOPLE. SO IF I CAN ASK ONE LAST QUESTION IF I UNDERSTAND THE NUMBERS IT'S ABOUT $2 MILLION A YEAR THAT WE GET FOR THE SAFER GRANT FOR 18 FIREFIGHTERS ATRS AND YOU NEED 32 MORE SIX WE JUST NEED JUST SHY OF 4,000,006 TO COME UP WITH A YEAR THEY GAVE US 6.9 MILLION FOR THE 18 FIREFIGHTERS FOR THREE YEARS OKAY SO TO POINT YEAH SOMETHING TO POINT TO YEAH OKAY I'M JUST TRYING TO DO IT LIKE LIKE HAVE SAID I MEAN IF WE LOOKED AT ACCELERATING THAT WE'RE WE'RE AT SOMEWHERE FOUR AND A HALF 5 MILLION A YEAR AND ADDED TO THE BUDGET TO JUST SAY HEY YOU KNOW CHIEF JUST GO DO SO I DIDN'T SAY GEE SHE'S GOOD. YOU DON'T REMEMBER JUST ASKING QUESTIONS BUT NO NOT EVEN A QUESTION JUST A COMMENT I THINK I HAVE 5 SECONDS COME I'LL JUMP JUMP OFF WHAT WHAT I SHAWN SAID I'D TRYING TO TO MAKE THAT THAT EFFORT JUST BECAUSE I JUST GET SO CONCERNED ABOUT THE FIRES I'VE SEEN HERE IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON WHICH IN CHIEF THANK YOU MUCH THANK YOU APPRECIATE IT.  OUR SECOND PART OF ITEM 5.2 IS THE STRATEGIC FUND.  CARRIE CARLSON, THANKS FOR STICKING IT OUT WITH US TONIGHT AND I HOPE WITH GIVE YOU ENOUGH TIME HERE HELLO MAYOR AND COUNCIL YES I WILL BE DISCUSSING THE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES FUND SO I'LL JUST START WITH AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT THAT FUND IS QUICKLY FOLLOWED BY A REVIEW OF FUND BALANCE 2024 REVENUES AND THEN 2024 APPROVED AND PLANNED TRANSFERS. AND I'LL ALSO DISCUSS POTENTIAL TRANSFERS FOR 25 AND CONCLUDE WITH THE TERM FINANCIAL MODEL.  SO JUST AND JUST TO START OFF AS A REFRESHER SO THE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES FUND IS A DESIGNATED FINANCIAL RESOURCE AIMED AT SUPPORTING INITIATIVES ALIGN WITH THE CITY'S LONG TERM GOALS AND PROVIDES FINANCIAL TO THE CITY AND IT TYPICALLY RECEIVES REVENUES EITHER A PROPERTY TAX LEVY DIRECTLY OR POSITIVE BUDGET VARIANCE FROM THE GENERAL FUND AND THIS FUND ALLOWS THE CITY COUNCIL FOCUS ON PROJECTS THAT ADDRESS THE CITY'S TOP PRIORITIES SO IT SOMETIMES ACTS AS SEED MONEY FOR KEY INITIATIVES SO IT HELPS TO LAUNCH PROJECTS FOR EXAMPLE THE BLOOMINGTON TOMORROW TOGETHER STRATEGIC PLAN.  SO AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR THE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES FUND HAD A BALANCE OF JUST OVER $8.3 MILLION AND WE'RE PROJECTING BUT BY THE END OF THIS YEAR 24 THAT THAT BALANCE WILL BE APPROXIMATELY $5.7 MILLION.  SO JUST LOOKING AT THE 2024 REVENUES, THE PRIMARY SOURCES INCLUDED A $1.1 MILLION TRANSFER FROM POSITIVE BUDT VARIANCE THE GENERAL FUND THAT WAS THE MAJORITY OF IT ALSO WE DID WE DON'T USUALLY GET LOCAL GOVERNMENT AID WE GOT A LITTLE BIT THIS YEAR SO THAT'S $56,000 OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT AID FROM THE STATE AND THEN PROJECTING AROUND $75,000 IN INTEREST.  SO HERE IS A RECAP WITH ALL OF THE COUNCIL APPROVAL DEEDS FOR SO FAR AND 2020 FOR WHAT THE COUNCIL HAS APPROVED AS FAR TRANSFERS COMING OUT OF THE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES FUND. SO IN TOTALS POINT 5 MILLION I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL THAT LIST THERE BUT THESE TRANSFERS THEY SUPPORT A WIDE RANGE OF INITIATIVES AS YOU CAN SEE SUCH AS THE CLIMATE CHANGE EQUITY MITIGATION AND RESILIENCY PLAN, PUBLIC HEALTH FOOD ACCESS PLAN, THE DRED SCOTT FUELED IMPROVEMENTS ARE SOME OF THOSE ON THAT LIST.  THERE ARE ADDITIONAL DETAILS WITH ALL OF THESE THAT THESE APPROVED PROJECTS THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THE AGENDA MATERIALS FOR THIS EVENING.  SO WE ARE PLANNING TO BRING A FEW MORE AND TRANSFER REQUESTS TO THE COUNCIL NEXT MONTH.  SO IN OCTOBER AND THESE INCLUDE A NEIGHBORHOOD ENGAGEMENT INITIATIVE WHICH WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT BEFORE ALSO BOARDS AND COMMISSION IMPROVEMENTS AND TWO PARK MAINTENANCE PIECES OF EQUIPMENT.  SO TO EXPAND A BIT MORE ON THOSE PROPOSED TRANSFERS THAT ARE STILL PLANNED TO COME TO COUNCIL FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION ON THIS YEAR THE GOAL OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ENGAGEMENT INITIATIVE IS TO BUILD STRONGER NEIGHBORHOOD CONNECTIONS THAT ENHANCE COMMUNITY WELL-BEING AND STRENGTHENS LEADERSHIP AND A SENSE OF PLACE.  THIS INITIATIVE EMPHASIZES COMMUNITY DRIVEN PROGRAMS RATHER THAN FORMAL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND THE $87,000 TRANSFER FROM THE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES WOULD COVER PUBLIC PARTICIPATION COSTS LIKE COMMUNICATION INTERPRETATION SERVICES AND FACILITATORS AND THEN A LITTLE MORE ON THE BOARDS COMMISSION PROCESS IMPROVEMENTS WE'RE LOOKING AT IMPROVING THE RECRUITMENT AND ONBOARDING PROCESSES FOR THE 11 ADVISORY BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS WITH A TRANSFER OF $15,000 FROM THE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES FUND. AND THIS WOULD SUPPORT CREATION OF RECRUITMENT AND ONBOARDING VIDEOS AND LEADERSHIP TRAINING.  ANOTHER PROPOSED INVESTMENT FROM STRATEGIC PRIORITIES WOULD BE A SELF PROPELLED BOOM WITH A TRAILER FOR $135,000 WHICH WOULD ENABLE PARK MAINTENANCE TO EFFICIENTLY ACCESS HARD TO REACH AREAS FOR TREE TRIMMING AND MINIMAL WITH MINIMAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT. CURRENTLY THEY LACK THE EQUIPMENT TO DO THIS TYPE OF WORK IN ACQUIRING BOOM LIFT WOULD ALLOW THEM TO PERFORM FOR ACTIVE MAINTENANCE REGULARLY AND ENSURE OPERATIONS SAFER OPERATIONS DIFFICULT AREAS.  AND THEN THE LAST ONE ON THE LIST FOR THIS YEAR WAS PROPOSING A $55,000 TRANSFER FOR PURCHASE OF A MINI CURRENTLY PARK MAINTENANCE AND RENTS THIS 5 TO 10 TIMES A YEAR FOR IRRIGATION REPAIRS AND BY OWNING THE EQUIPMENT CAN PERFORM QUICKER MORE EFFICIENT REPAIRS AND REDUCE DOWNTIME AND IMPROVE GAMEPLAY ON FIELDS.  SO I'M LOOKING AHEAD TO 2025 WE HAVE IDENTIFIED POTENTIAL TRANSFERS TOTALING $5.7 MILLION TWO OF THE LARGER TRANSFERS PROPOSED ON THIS LIST INCLUDE $3.2 MILLION THERE AT THE BOTTOM FOUR REAL ESTATE RELATED TO THE NEW COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER SITE.  THIS AMOUNT WOULD BE REIMBURSED BACK TO THE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES ONCE THE BONDS ARE ISSUED BUT THEN POTENTIALLY REPAINT THE DEBT SERVICE FROM THIS FUND OVER TIME AND THEN ALSO 2025 IS THE LAST YEAR THAT WE HAD MODELED OUT A $1.1 MILLION TO THE GENERAL FUND FOR TAX LEVY STABILIZATION AND THIS WAS PLANNED JUST THIS LAST YEAR AND 25 TO CONTINUE THAT AND THAT WITH THE 2021 BUDGET .  AND THEN FINALLY FINAL SIGN AND THESE ARE SCREENSHOTS THERE'S A LOT OF NUMBERS ON HERE. WE TRIED TO CONDENSE INTO TWO DIFFERENT SHOTS FROM LONG TERM MODEL REPORT OF THE STRATEGIC FUND BUT IN 2025 BASED ON THAT LAST SLIDE OF POTENTIAL TRANSFERS OUT THE FUND BALANCE COULD POTENTIALLY DECREASED TO JUST DOWN TO ABOUT $556,000 FOR AN ENDING FUND BALANCE BUT THEN WOULD COME BACK UP WITH MONEY COMING BACK INTO STRATEGIC PRIORITIES AFTER THE BONDS ARE ISSUED.  IF THAT WAS USED FOR ACQUIRING PROPERTY.  SO IT COME BACK AT ABOUT 3.4 MILLION IN 2026 AND THEN POTENTIALLY 2.4 MILLION IN 2028. THE ITEMS THAT ARE IN BLACK ON THIS SLIDE AT LEAST FOR THAT THE LEFT HALF OF THE SLIDE WITH THOSE DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES GOING IN AND OUT THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT HAVE ACTUALLY HAVE BEEN IMPROVED AND THE ONES THAT ARE ITALICIZED IN BLUE OR PURPLE ARE JUST POTENTIAL THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN MODELED OUT.  SO THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION SO LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR QUESTIONS.  FEEDBACK GUIDANCE FOR THE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES FUND THANK YOU VERY MUCH.  LOTS OF QUESTIONS. THIS HAS BEEN THIS HAS COME UP IN THE PAST AND I THINK WE'VE HEARD AT LEAST A FEW OF THE QUESTIONS OR A FEW OF THE ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP HERE WERE QUESTIONED OR ISSUES BROUGHT UP ABOUT THEM.  ANYTHING SPECIFIC WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT?  COUNCILMEMBER AND THEN COUNCILMEMBER NELSON COUNCILMEMBER OKAY.  A COUPLE OF THINGS. DO WE KNOW WHAT THE BREAK EVEN IS FOR THE EXCAVATOR AND THE BOOM LEFT COMPARED TO LIKE IF WE KEEP RENTING VERSUS BUYING LIKE HOW LONG IS IT GOING TO TAKE FOR US TO BE LIKE THIS IS JUSTIFIED FOR US TO BUY IT VERSUS KEEP RENTING?  YES. MAYOR COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER WE CAN GET THAT INFORMATION. THERE WOULD BE A POINT WHERE DEPENDING HOW MANY TIMES A YEAR THAT WE'RE THAT AND THE COST OF IT THAT I THINK IT WOULD BREAK EVEN PRETTY QUICKLY.  MR. VERBRUGGE THANK YOU MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER NOT SURE IF THEY HAVE THAT SPECIFIC DETAIL AVAILABLE BUT DAVE HANSEN ALISON WARREN ARE BOTH AVAILABLE SO WE COULD BRING THEM INTO THE CONVERSATION ASK HIM THE QUESTION AND THEN SECOND KIND OF COMMENT QUESTION HAS ALWAYS BEEN JUST THE FUN BALANCE AND I ALWAYS FEELS REALLY HIGH TO ME AND I'M WONDERING LIKE IF WE CAN AUTOMATICALLY PUT IN MAYBE A PERCENTAGE LIKE WE ALWAYS TAKE THIS PERCENTAGE AND WE PUT IT TOWARDS A TAX LEVY TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF BURDEN WE PUT ON RESIDENTS BECAUSE ALL OF THIS IS JUST PROPERTY TAX ANYWAYS.  AND SO IN LOOKING AT THE THE PROPOSED PROJECTS AND EXPENDITURES RIGHT THE 3.2 MILLION IS AN OUTLIER. MOST THE TIME THE PROJECTS THAT STAFF ARE BRINGING AND REQUESTING FROM US ARE IN 100,000, 200,000, 375 $400,000 MAX. SO WHY DO WE HAVE TO CARRY SUCH A BIG FUND BALANCE IF WE'RE NEVER GOING TO REALLY BE PULLING OR NEEDING THAT THAT BIG OF A POT OF MONEY?  SO I WOULD IF WE IF WE CAN LIKE JUST SAY FOR MILLIONS OUR BUDGET EVERYTHING OVER THAT GOES TOWARDS THE TAX LEVY WILL BE SOMETHING I'LL BE INTERESTED IN LEARNING MORE ABOUT HOW WE CAN BETTER DO THAT. MR. BURGI THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER THAT'S A NICE RECAP CONVERSATIONS THAT THIS BODY HAS HAD OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS ABOUT THE FUND ITSELF. ONE THING THAT'S IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT THE TAX LEVY STABILIZATION LINE ITEM AND WHETHER WE WOULD CONTINUE TO USE THIS FUND AS A SWORD AS A SOURCE FOR TAX LEVY STABILIZATION IS THAT THAT IS A DECISION THAT WENT BACK ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO WHEN.  WE WENT THROUGH THE COMMUNITY BUDGET ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND . THE DIRECTION FROM THE COUNCIL WAS THAT WE WE WANTED TO MINIMIZE IMPACT TO THE TAXPAYERS TO THE GREATEST EXTENT POSSIBLE VERY DURING A VERY DIFFICULT ECONOMIC TIME. AND SO THAT 1.1 MILLION WAS PUT IN THERE AND IT WAS INTENDED TO BE AN INTERIM FOR ABOUT THREE YEARS. BUT THAT'S WHAT WE REFER TO AS A STRUCTURAL IMBALANCE IN OUR SOURCES AND USES RIGHT IS THAT THE THE TAX LEVY STABILIZATION WAS INTENDED TO BE A TEMPORARY THING SO IF WE WERE TO CONTINUE TO UTILIZE THE FUND GOING FORWARD WE WOULD CONTINUE TO PERPETUATE THE STRUCTURAL IMBALANCE.  SO AS CORIE SHOWED IN HER LONG TERM MODEL WE HAVE THE TAX LEVY STABILIZATION ACTUALLY BEING UTILIZED FOR 2025 AND THAT'S THE LAST YEAR THAT WE'RE FORECASTING USING NOW THAT HAS AN IMPACT ON THE TAX LEVY WHEN COUNCIL IS GOING TO COME AROUND NEXT YEAR DURING THE BUDGET DELIBERATIONS.  YOU KNOW THAT REPRESENTS A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN A POINT OF TAX LEVY INCREASE BUT THAT'S THAT'S THE SORT OF THE LEGACY OR THE CONSEQUENCE OF HAVING AN UNBALANCED APPROACH OVER SEVERAL.  SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS DEFER SOME OF THAT IMPACT AND YOU KNOW, FORECASTING WHEN THAT THAT THAT IMPACT HAS TO BE EXPERIENCED TO THE REST OF YOUR POINTS I WOULD SAY YOU'RE CORRECT. IS THAT AS AS COREY SUMMARIZED WE HAVE LARGELY USED THIS FOR ONE TIME OPPORTUNITIES. I KNOW THAT COUNCILMEMBER NELSON HAS FREQUENTLY ASKED WHY WE WOULDN'T INCLUDE SOME OF THE ITEMS ON OUR STRATEGIC PRIORITIES FUND LIST IS AS PART OF THE OPERATING BUDGET AND WE HAVE SPECIFICALLY TRIED TO IDENTIFY THINGS THAT ARE ONE TIME ITEMS SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF YOU KNOW, FLUCTUATE ISH IN IN THOSE OPERATING BUDGETS WE TRY TO MAINTAIN THOSE KNOW TO BE STABLE AS MUCH AS WE CAN. THIS GIVES US A TO DO THAT AND ALSO AS YOU KNOW ESSENTIALLY THE THE  FUND FOR SOMETHI THAT'S POTENTIALLY GOING TO GET WORKED INTO OUR BUDGET LIKE THE THERAPIST PROGRAM. RIGHT. WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN ONGOING COMMITMENT TO THE THERAPIST PROGRAM SO WE HAVE SOME THINGS ON THE FRONT END OF DEVELOPING THOSE AND THEN INCORPORATE THEM AT A LATER TIME. SO APPRECIATE THE WAY THAT COREY HAS LAID THE SALT COUNCILMEMBER YOUR QUESTION IS A GOOD ONE BECAUSE THE COUNCIL'S ASSET FOR A LONG TIME WHAT DO WE ARE WE RESERVING THIS FUND AND I THINK THE IDEA HAS BEEN THERE'S THERE'S TO BE A BIG SOMETHING THERE JUST WHAT IS IT NO ONE OF THE POSSIBILITIES IS EXACTLY WHAT HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED HERE IS SOME OF THE POTENTIAL PROPERTY ACQUISITION THAT IS GOING TO BE COMPLEMENTARY FOR THE COMMUNITY CENTER PROJECT AND WHETHER THAT IS THE RIGHT APPROACH COUNCILMEMBER NELSON AND COUNCILMEMBER ELIZONDO COUNCILMEMBER NELSON SNOW CITY MANAGER ALREADY SAID MY PART SO HIS FRAME TO ME HE WANTS TO GET OUT TONIGHT MR. MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER NELSON HAS CORRECTLY SUMMARIZED THE SITUATION.  DALLESSANDRO AND COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN THANK YOU MR. MAYOR SO AS A AS A COMPLEMENT THE COMMENTS OF OF COUNCILMEMBER MUIR MY BIGGEST CHALLENGE WITH THIS FUND IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE CLEAR DEFINITION FOR WHAT WE WANT IT TO USED FOR. SO I'M A LITTLE UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THE IDEA OF SAYING WE SHOULD, YOU KNOW, NOT HAVE A BALANCE OF X OR Y BECAUSE WE DON'T NECESSARILY PLAN WE DON'T PLAN STRATEGICALLY FOR USING THE DOLLARS IN THE FIRST PLACE. SO IF WE HAD $3 MILLION EVERY YEAR AND WE SAT AS A COUNCIL AND WE ACTUALLY TALKED ABOUT WHAT WE WANTED TO DO WITH THAT $3 MILLION EVERY YEAR I WOULD BE FINE WITH IT BEING $3 MILLION A YEAR AND EVERYTHING ELSE GOES BACK TO THE LEVY LIKE I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH BUT WE DON'T DO THAT AS A COUNCIL AND SO I DON'T KNOW WHY WE DON'T DO THAT BUT IT FEELS ME LIKE WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH IT SO FAR LEAST IN MY LIMITED EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN ONE OF TWO THINGS EITHER WE PUT SOMETHING ON A WORK PLAN THAT WE DIDN'T ANTICIPATE THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR AND WE SAID WE'LL FUND IT FOR YOU BECAUSE WE DIDN'T ASK YOU TO DO IT IN ADVANCE SO YOU DIDN'T PLAN FOR IT. WE CARE ABOUT IT A LOT AND SO WE'RE GOING TO HELP YOU FUND IT SO THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME RIGHT.  THAT'S THE COUNCIL'S DISCRETION TO SAY STOP WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND DO INSTEAD AND HERE'S THE MONEY FOR IT. OKAY. THE OTHER THING WE SEEM TO USE IT FOR IS A WHEN WE HAVE AN HAVING A SOMETHING THAT'S IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN LIKE A FIVE YEAR PLAN AND THEN THEY'RE GETTING AROUND TO IT IN THE WORK PLAN AND SO IT NEEDS TO BE ACCOMMODATED IN THE OPERATING BUDGET AND WE DON'T WE HAVE A GAP THERE AND SO WE FILL GAP. SO AS AN EXAMPLE OF THAT WOULD BE YOU KNOW WHEN WE THE WHEN WE DID THE NATURAL RESOURCES MANAGEMENT RIGHT THAT WAS IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN. BUT AS WE ACTUALLY MOVED THE OFFICE INTO PARKS AND REC AND GOT DAVE INVOLVED IN THAT AT THE LEADERSHIP EVERYTHING WE STARTED FUNDING THAT AND THEN WE SAID OH WE NEED FORESTRY. WE STARTED FUNDING THAT ETC. ETC. SO SO LIKE THOSE THINGS ALL MAKE SENSE TO ME I JUST WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A MORE PROACTIVE AND CONCERTED CONVERSATION AS A COUNCIL ABOUT WHAT WE AGREE TO ARE PRIORITIES AND WE DON'T SPEND IT ON OTHER THINGS AND THEN WE CAN PLAN TO GIVE SOME MONEY BACK TO THE LEVY AND I SEE THE STABILIZATION FUND A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY I THINK I DON'T I DON'T THINK OF IT AS AS DESTABILIZING IN THE SAME WAY THAT MAYBE THE CITY MANAGER DOES. I OF IT AS WE IT IS THE WAY THAT WE CONTROL WHEN WE MAKE A BUDGET IN YEAR THE YEAR AND THEN AS THE YEAR GOES BY IF WE DO BETTER IN THAT YEAR ON OUR REVENUES WE HAVE THIS MONEY AND WE CAN CHOOSE TO GIVE A PORTION OF THAT BACK TO THE THE TAXPAYER LIKE THAT'S THE WAY I SEE IT LIKE THAT'S MAYBE NOT BUT THAT'S THE WAY I SEE IT AND WE KEEP WE CAN THAT AND WE CAN DO THAT WITH ALL OF THE MONEY OR NONE OF THE MONEY OR SOME OF THE MONEY RIGHT.  AND THIS NUMBER TO ME IS A LITTLE ARBITRARY IN THE SENSE THAT I UNDERSTAND WHAT WE DID. WE SAID HEY WE'RE GOING TO ND OPERATIONALLY STUFF THAT'S IN THE BUDGET AND WE'RE GOING TO USE THIS MONEY AND AND EVERYTHING. BUT IF IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES FUND AND WE JUST HAD THIS POSITIVE BUDGET VARIANCE WOULD WE WOULD JUST TAKE IT AND ASSIGN IT TO THE STUFF IN THE BUDGET ANYWAY . I MEAN SO IT IT GOES TO THE SAME PLACE IN MY IN MY HEAD IN IN A WAY IT LIKE AT LEAST LOGICALLY FOR ME SO WHAT I WOULD PROPOSE WE DO IF IT POSSIBLE IS WE ACTUALLY SIT DOWN AS A COUNCIL AND WE ACTUALLY TALK ABOUT WHAT WE WHAT LIKE THE MISSION AND PURPOSE OF THIS FUND AND THEN WE CAN LOOK AT THE THINGS AGAINST THE STRATEGIC LIKE OUR STRATEGIC PLAN AND OUR OTHER LIKE YOU YOU CAN TAKE THAT PLUS THE PARKS MASTER PLAN PLUS A COUPLE OF OTHER BIG INITIATIVES WE HAVE AND WE COULD DOLE OUT ALL OF THE MONEY IF WE WANTED TO AND THAT WOULD BE FINE WITH ME BECAUSE THEN WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO CARRY A BALANCE OR WE DID THAT 70% PERCENT OF IT OR WHATEVER BUT WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT WORK AND AS A COUNCIL IT FEELS WEIRD FOR TO NOT HAVE DONE THAT WORK SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE. SO MAYBE IT WAS DONE BUT SINCE WE'VE HAD THIS STRATEGIC PLAN I CAN TELL YOU WE HAVEN'T DONE WORK AND AS I THINK ABOUT LIKE STUFF THAT'S IN STRATEGIC PLAN THAT WE CONTINUE TO DELAY DOING LIKE SOME OF THE SUSTAINABLE CITY WORK THAT WE SAY WE WANT TO DO LIKE I'M FRUSTRATED THAT THIS MONEY HERE AND NOT DOESN'T DO ANYTHING RIGHT I WANT SOLAR PANELS ROOFS FOR GOD'S SAKE. RIGHT. AND IF WE CAN DO THAT WE SHOULD DO THAT AND WE'RE NOT PUTTING THIS MONEY TOWARDS THAT BECAUSE WE AS A COUNCIL HAVEN'T SAT DOWN AND AGREED THAT THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD DO WITH IT. SO I DON'T KNOW WHEN WE DO THAT BUT BEFORE WE SPEND $3.2 MILLION IN 2025 ON THESE HOUSING PROPERTIES.  I'D LIKE US TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW RIGHT NOW WHAT I'M JUDGING THAT DECISION AGAINST OTHER THAN WORD OF STAFF THAT SAYS THIS THIS COULD BE A GOOD IDEA AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE WE WOULD COMPARE IT TO. SO THAT'S MY THINKS OTHERWISE I'M FINE WITH THE NUMBERS. MR. RUDIN YEAH. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO, APPRECIATE THOSE . I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO REMIND PEOPLE ABOUT WHEN THEY HEAR US TALKING ABOUT POSITIVE BUDGET VARIANCE WHATNOT IS YOU KNOW WE WE DO FORECAST FOR FOR HAVING SOME REVENUE THAT COMES INTO THIS FUND AND THE FACT IS THAT A LOT OF THAT IS BECAUSE WE HAVE BUILT A REQUIREMENT INTO OUR BUDGETING PROCESS WHEN I SAY WE USE USING SORT OF THE ROYAL WE OF THE CITY FOUNDERS THROUGH OUR OUR PRACTICES AND POLICIES THAT YOU KNOW WE HAVE A 2% CONTINGENCY REQUIREMENT THAT'S ADDED EVERY YEAR. RIGHT. AND THAT MONEY GET ALLOCATED UNLESS THERE IS SOME EXTREME CIRCUMSTANCE. RIGHT. IF WE WERE TO HAVE A HUGE STRAIGHT LINE WINDSTORM THROUGH AND THAT'S HAPPENED IN THE PAST IT'S BEEN PROBABLY 15 YEARS OR SO SINCE THE LAST TIME THAT HAPPENED BUT IT BECOMES REALLY EXPENSIVE THAT RIGHT TYPICALLY WHAT'S HAPPENING IS AT THE END OF THE YEAR WE'RE COMING IN BOTH UNDER THE EXPENSES WE HAVE IDENTIFIED AND WE TEND TO COME IN A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THE REVENUES WE'VE IDENTIFIED AND THEN YOU ALSO HAVE THIS 2% SO IT YOU KNOW WE'RE THE LIKELIHOOD IS THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE SOMETHING IN HERE AND SO I APPRECIATE THE IDEA THAT WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT YOU KNOW.  IS THERE A TARGET AMOUNT THAT WE WANT TO MAINTAIN BECAUSE PART THE REST OF THE YOU KNOW WHEN WE KIND OF GET IN THERE AND NEED THE DOE AT THE END OF THE YEAR IS WE HAVE CARRYOVERS YOU KNOW IT'S IT'S EXPENDITURES THAT WE HAVE COMMITTED TO BUT HAVEN'T BEEN PAID THOSE CALLED ENCUMBRANCES. SO YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT JUST WHAT THE STRATEGIC FUND BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF OTHER BALANCING THAT GETS DONE AT THE END OF A YEAR AND SO HAVING THAT SORT OF GUIDANCE WOULD PROBABLY BE HELPFUL FOR US.  THE OTHER THE OTHER THING THAT YOU WANT TO SAY IN TERMS OF THE MODEL HERE IS THAT THE TRANSFER IN THAT'S IDENTIFIED SHOULD PROBABLY LOOKED AT AS MORE OF A PLACEHOLDER JUST BECAUSE EVEN IF WE DO A REIMBURSEMENT THE BUDGET'S GOING TO BE TIGHT FOR THE COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER.  SO I DON'T WANT TO SET AN EXPECTATION THAT THE WHOLE AMOUNT MAY BE REIMBURSED WITH THOSE BOND PROCEEDS BUT WE'RE JUST SHOWING WHAT THE POTENTIAL IS WITH THE REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION SO COUNCILMEMBER LONDON AND COUNCILMEMBER CARTER COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN, THANK YOU. MAYOR.  SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THIS THIS PAGE FOR 52 MAYOR THAT'S GOT THIS DEFINITION OF THE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES FUND AND HOW IT'S USED.  THIS IS ONE OF THE I THINK ONE OF THE BEST SLIDES I'VE SEEN AS A COUNCILMEMBER JUST IN TERMS OF THIS DEFINITION HERE BECAUSE I THINK IS IT BECAUSE MANY TIMES WILL HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR FUND AND I FIND MYSELF SAYING WELL WHAT'S THE DEFINITION OF THIS THING? WHAT ARE WE USING THIS THING BECAUSE WHEN I FIRST CAME ON COUNCIL OFTENTIMES I SAW THIS FUND USING KNOW JUST KIND OF MORE SO FROM A FROM A COUNCIL PERSPECTIVE PRIORITIES AND WE KIND OF I THINK GAVE A LITTLE MORE DIRECTION IN TERMS OF WHAT WE WANT TO SEE. I THINK OF YOU KNOW FOR EXAMPLE WHEN WE EXPANDED THE HOUSING PROGRAM YOU KNOW THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD PROGRAM AND WE DID THERE I THINK AT ONE POINT IN TIME WE TK SOME SEED DOLLARS OUT OF THAT TO DO SOME OF THE THE PARK INITIATIVES OR UPGRADING SOME OF THE PARKS. SO SO I JUST THINK OF THOSE DIFFERENT YOU KNOW, KIND OF THOSE INNOVATIVE OR KIND OF SEED MONEY THINGS THAT WE DID FOR SOME OF THESE THINGS HERE AND SO AS I LOOK AT THIS AS A REFLECT ON THAT, I REALLY LIKE THE IDEA THAT OUR COUNCIL HAS BEEN ABLE TO KIND OF DO THAT. BUT WHAT I'VE KIND OF SEEN HAPPEN OVER THE YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN HERE IS THAT YOU KNOW, NOW WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE HAVE KIND OF WE STILL THAT GOING ON BUT THEN WE ALSO HAVE WE'VE KIND OF GIVEN PART OF OUR YOU KNOW, PART OF OUR OUR RESPONSIBILITIES OVER THIS BLOOMINGTON TOMORROW TOGETHER TYPE PIECE.  AND IT JUST OCCURS TO ME THAT YOU KNOW YOU KNOW THAT KIND OF USING THIS FUND FOR KIND OF TWO PURPOSES THERE AND THEN NOW WE'RE ALSO KIND OF MIXING IN SOME OF THE COMMISSION'S PLANS. WE'RE KIND OF PUT MOST THINGS IN THERE AND THOSE ARE SOMETIMES ARE NOT IN THE GENERAL FUND, YOU KNOW, WHERE SOME OF THOSE THINGS MAY HAVE BEEN IN THE PAST THEY'RE BEING DONE HERE. AND SO WHAT I'M KIND OF WONDERING IS DOES IT MAKES SOME SENSE TO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF , YOU KNOW, BIFURCATE THIS A LITTLE BIT IN TERMS OF THERE'S COUNCIL STUFF THAT'S GOING ON OR MAYBE EVEN MORE SPLIT IT DOWN THEN YOU GOT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE COUNCIL INITIATIVES THAT ARE GOING ON AND THEN ALSO HAVE SOME OF THESE, YOU KNOW, REALLY BUDGET CONCERNS THAT WE REALLY HAVE THAT WE WANT WE YOU KNOW, LOOK AT TO TRY TO USE THESE THESE DOLLARS FOR SO YOU KNOW, I'M ALL FOR TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, REDUCE THE LEVY IF WE COULD TAKE SOME OF THESE EXTRA FUNDS AND DO THAT BUT I KNOW WE'VE GOT A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT ARE COMING UP SO WE'VE GOT THE FIREFIGHTERS YOU KNOW THAT THEY'RE GOING TO FROM THAT SALARY PERSPECTIVE WHEN THOSE 18 HIT US TWICE YOU KNOW WE SHOULD HAVE DOLLARS PUT ASIDE I'M NOT SURE IF STAFF IS THINKING ABOUT THAT. SO THAT'S SORT OF AS I LOOK AT THESE YOU KNOW YOU KNOW AT THIS FUND ITSELF I GET CONCERNED I AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUES, YOU KNOW, HERE THAT SAY HEY, WE'RE NOT KIND OF BEING PLANNED FOR BUT IT'D BE NICE TO KNOW YOU KNOW, ALMOST LIKE ALMOST LIKE ALMOST LIKE A CAPITAL BUDGET. WHAT DO WE HAVE LEFT AND WE'VE KIND OF DONE THAT A LITTLE BIT HERE THAT'S REMAINING THE BETTER.  SO WE KIND OF HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.  SHOULD WE BE SETTING ASIDE FOR THOSE INITIATIVES THAT ARE COMING UP SO THEY DON'T YOU KNOW, I HEARD COUNCILOR ALESSANDRA REALLY ARTICULATELY ,YOU KNOW, TALK ABOUT THIS NOT BE KIND OF IN A SENSE SURPRISED OH, THIS IS THE YEAR WE'VE GOT TO DO THIS AND THEN SOME OF THOSE OTHER THOSE OTHER EXPENSES THAT WE KNOW THAT WE'RE TRYING TO USE TO TO STABILIZE OUT THE BUDGET YOU KNOW, CAN WE KIND OF GET A JUMP START ON THAT BY KIND OF PUTTING THOSE DOLLARS ASIDE IN THIS IN THIS FUND AND WHATEVER WE'VE GOT LEFT THERE MAYBE THOSE YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE OTHER THINGS WE'VE GOT GOING ON HERE BUT I THINK BY HAVING WAS IT'S ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE DIFFERENT KIND OF DIRECTIONS TO KIND OF BE GOING IT'S KIND OF BECAUSE IT'S NOT REAL SPECIFIC IT'S SO GENERAL ANYTHING CAN BE PACKED INTO THIS THING AND THAT'S WHAT HAS CONCERNED ME OVER MY TIME OF BEING HERE AND IT'S YOU KNOW IT'S I LOVE THE SLIDE BUT I THINK THAT THIS DOES DEMONSTRATE THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS KIND OF WHERE WE PACK EVERYTHING AND I THINK IF I THINK IF STAFF NEEDS A FUND THAT MAYBE WE SHOULD CARVE OUT SOMETHING TO DO THAT SPECIFICALLY.  BUT I THINK WE'VE GOT TO GET THIS REINED IN AND FIGURE OUT KIND OF HOW WE WANT TO KIND OF MOVE FORWARD RATHER THAN BEING REACT TO BE A LITTLE MORE PROACTIVE WITH THIS WITH THIS FUND IN OF WHAT WE'RE DOING. SO I LOVE IT. I THINK WE'RE YOU KNOW, EACH YEAR THIS GETS BETTER AND BETTER AND I'M JUST SO EXCITED THAT WE'RE KIND OF HAVING THIS CONVERSATION AND COUNCILMEMBER COUNCILMEMBER CARTER I THINK MAYOR SO I TEND TO AGREE WITH MOST OF WHAT'S BEEN SAID AND THE CITY MANAGER I DID HAVE A CONVERSATION A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO WHERE YOU MENTIONED MAYBE PEOPLE IN THE COUNCIL TOGETHER FOR A STRATEGIC PLANNING RETREAT AND THAT'S WHAT THIS MAKES ME THINK OF BECAUSE WE DID WELL I THINK BEFORE THE I THINK MAYBE MY FIRST YEAR IN COUNCIL MAYBE WE HAD ONE I DON'T REMEMBER IF WE'VE HAD ONE THAT WAS SIMILAR TO THAT BUT IT IS HELPFUL TO REALLY GET MORE SPECIFIC AND GET MORE AGREEMENT IN TERMS OF WHAT WHAT ARE THE COUNCIL'S STRATEGIC PRIORITIES AND I LIKED WHAT COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SAID ABOUT MAYBE LIKE IF WE NEED TO HAVE A FUND FOR KIND OF AD HOC THINGS POP UP FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING DIFFERENT BUT I LIKE THE IDEA OF GETTING CLARITY.  IT FEELS LIKE MAYBE LIKE A RETREAT WOULD BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT.  AND THEN I ALSO YOU KNOW WHEN SEE THE ONGOING COSTS AND TO 2027 FOR LIKE FORESTRY AND THE TRAFFIC INJURY REDUCTION PROGRAM I MEAN TO ME I'M JUST LIKE WHY DON'T WE JUST ADD THOSE INTO THE BUDGET, RIGHT? AND WHY DID THEY NEED TO BE IN STRATEGIC PRIORITIES WHICH I KNOW IS COUNCILMEMBER THING THAT HE BRINGS UP EVERY TIME TO AND I AND I DO AGREE I KIND OF FEEL LIKE IF IT HAS ONGOING TAILS LIKE FOR MULTIPLE YEARS WE SHOULD JUST PUT IT IN THE BUDGET SO LIKE IT'S A IT IS A PRIORITY SO AND IT'S NOT A ONE TIME OR A TWO YEAR PRIORITY IT'S AN ONGOING PRIORITY SO AND THAT THE TREE SITUATION'S NOT GOING TO GET BETTER ANY TIME SOON SO I THINK THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT AND COUNCILMEMBER YOU GUYS IN JUST A SECOND. BUT TO YOUR POINT ALSO I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT ABOUT WE HAVE THE LINE ITEM FOR COMMUNICATIONS IN GENERAL FUND LIKE IT WAS PASSED OUT SPECIFICALLY THROUGH THE ADDITIONAL PUBLICATIONS THAT GO ON ROLLING INTO THE COMMUNICATIONS BUDGET AND IT JUST MORE SENSE I THINK COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS I'M THE NEW GUY SO I CAN ASK THE DUMB QUESTIONS RIGHT.  UM, HOW MUCH IS THE CITY HAVE AS AN EMERGENCY FUND? HOW MANY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS? LET'S SAY AN EARTHQUAKE HITS US WHICH YOU KNOW, IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE.  PLUS IT DID HAPPEN IT HAPPENED IN 1976.  THERE WAS AN EARTHQUAKE HERE IN MINNESOTA. BUT ANYWAY, THAT ASIDE, HOW MUCH DO WE HAVE AS AN EMERGENCY FUND, MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS PUTTING AN EXACT NUMBER ON THAT IS DIFFICULT AND COREY COULD PROBABLY RELATIVELY QUICKLY COMBINE THE VARIOUS FUNDS THAT WE HAVE RIGHT SO AND GIVE YOU A DOLLAR FIGURE OUR POLICY ON GENERAL FUND RESERVES IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO STRIVE TO HAVE SOMEWHERE IN THE 40% RANGE OF OUR ANNUAL OPERATING BUDGET. OKAY SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD HOW MUCH THAT IS. COREY YOU CAN DO SOME QUICK MATH BUT THAT DOES TWO THINGS. IT PROVIDES A RESERVE FOR UNANTICIPATED AND IT ALSO MANAGES CASH IN THE GENERAL FUND BECAUSE THE VAST MAJORITY OF OUR REVENUES COME ARE REMITTED TWICE A YEAR FROM HENNEPIN COUNTY IN THE FORM OF PROPERTY TAX REVENUE. RIGHT. AND SO THERE'S THAT FOR THOSE YOU KNOW THE FIVE AND A HALF MONTHS BETWEEN THOSE REMITTANCE THAT WERE DRAWING DOWN AND THEN IT GETS BUILT BACK IN OUR OUR OPERATING FUND IS GETTING DRAWN DOWN BUT WE MAINTAIN AS YOU'RE AWARE RESERVES IN THE MANY OF OUR FUNDS AND SO IF YOU WANT TO SEE WHAT'S THE AMOUNT THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE IF THERE IS AN DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF EMERGENCY IT'S MUCH MORE THAN WHAT THE GENERAL FUND RESERVE IS. ONE OF THE EXERCISES THAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST IS GO THROUGH AND IDENTIFY ALL THE DIFFERENT FUNDS AND BASICALLY PUT A STREETLIGHT ON RIGHT IN THE RED, YELLOW AND GREEN IN TERMS OF WHAT DO YOU HAVE TOTAL DISCRETION TO MOVE AROUND THOSE FUNDS?  YOU KNOW YOU HAVE SOME CAUTION AND RED REALLY LIMITS DISCRETION BECAUSE OF HOW THE FUNDS ARE DEFINED. SO THAT'S A LONG WAY OF SAYING IT'S A HARD ANSWER TO GIVE YOU BUT THINK THE SIMPLEST ANSWER IS JUST FOR THE GENERAL FUND WHICH WERE MOSTLY ABOUT WHEN TALKING ABOUT LEVIES AND TAXES IS 40% OF OPERATING AND I WOULD JUST ADD THAT'S AROUND $40 MILLION. THE GENERAL FUNDS AROUND $100 MILLION. THANK YOU. SO SO I THINK THIS IS A CONVERSATION THAT NEEDS TO CONTINUE. I LIKE COUNCILMEMBER  IDEA OF MAYBE IT'S TIME TO GET BACK TO A IN MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS I HAVE YOU KNOW I WAS DOING MY ONE ON ONE TOUCH BASE WITH EVERYBODY RECENTLY IS SUGGESTING THAT I THINK JANUARY IS PROBABLY A GOOD TIME TO DO THAT LET'S GET THROUGH THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS HERE AND NOT JUST FOR THE PURPOSES STRATEGIC PRIORITIES FUND BUT JUST BECAUSE THE COUNCIL HASN'T HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. WE ALSO NEED TO DO A CHECK IN WITH THE B CORP PLANNING TEAM JUST TO GIVE THEM AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE AND SO TRYING TO TIME TWO TOGETHER MIGHT BE HELPFUL AS WELL. SO I'LL GET TO WORK ON FINDING A TIME EARLY IN 2025 THAT WORKS FOR THEM. SOUNDS GOOD.  AND THE LAST WORD I'LL HAVE THE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES FUND WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT THIS IS THE COUNCIL'S STRATEGIC FUND.  BUT JAMIE AND I HAVE HAD THE DISCUSSION IN THE PAST ACTUALLY I'VE HAD THE DISCUSSION WHAT IF IT WHAT IT'S THE COMMUNITY'S STRATEGIC PRIORITIES FUND WHAT IF WE WHAT IF WE PUT $1,000,000 OUT THERE AND SAID GIVE US YOUR BEST IDEAS ON TO SPEND THIS MONEY SOMHING TO THINK ABOUT. SO THANK YOU COREY. I'M TO GET US OUT OF HERE ON TIME. SO WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO SAY THANK YOU. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON IN OUR AGENDA.  ITEM 5.3 ARE CITY COUNCIL POLICY AND ISSUE UPDATE. I WILL RECAP VERY QUICKLY OUR LISTENING SESSION EARLIER THIS EVENING WE HAD FIVE SPEAKERS TODAY SALLY NASS HAD QUESTIONS AS TO WHY HER NAME APPEARED ON POLICE CALL RECORDS FIVE OR FOUR OR FIVE OR SIX YEARS AGO AND SO BE LOOKING INTO THAT AND GETTING AN ANSWER TO HER WHICH WILL BE THE ANSWER THAT WE WERE ABLE TO PROVIDE. MICHAEL HEALEY SPOKE REGARDING THE BIKE PATHS THE PROPOSED BIKE PATHS AND THE NINE MILE CREEK CORRIDOR. HE'S OPPOSED TO THOSE BIKE PATHS.  MICHAEL IS EIGHT YEARS OLD AND I THOHT HE DID A PRETTY GOOD JOB IN PRESENTING TO US THIS EVENING ROBERT COLEMAN HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT THE THE LUTHER KING APPLICATION AND WE'VE DONE QUESTIONS ABOUT AS WE DID TONIGHT ABOUT THE SOME OF THE OTHER ISSUES THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF REDEVELOPMENT, ESPECIALLY INDEPENDENT DISTRICT AND THEN CHERIE BE BROUGHT FORWARD SOME NEIGHBOR ISSUES THAT SHE'S BEEN HAVING SOME SIGNIFICANT NEIGHBOR ISSUES AND I WANT TO GIVE KUDOS TO COUNCILMEMBER NELSON WHO SUMMED IT UP VERY YOU KNOW, WITH ALL OF THE POWER THAT THE CITY HAS WE DON'T HAVE OR ANY POWER BASICALLY OVER NEIGHBORS WHO ARE BEING.  THERE'S JUST NOT A WHOLE LOT WE CAN DO OTHER THAN TRY AND RESOLVE THE BEST WE CAN. BUT THERE'S OUR HANDS ARE TIED AND A LOT OF JERKY NEIGHBOR SITUATIONS AND IT'S DISAPPOINTING THAT SOME NEIGHBORS ACTUALLY ACT LIKE THAT. SO BUT WE HAD WE HAD A GOOD CONVERSATION ONCE AGAIN TODAY AND I HAD A LOT OF FOLKS THERE. SO MR. RUBIO, ANYTHING TO ADD ON THE POLICY AND ISSUE UPDATE NOTHING FOR ME MR. MAYOR COUNCIL ANYTHING ELSE BRING FORWARD THIS EVENING SEEING NONE COUNCIL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN SOME OF THE SECOND MOTION IN A SECOND TO ADJOURN ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING HEY I OPPOSED MOTION CARRY SEVEN ZERO THANKS VERY MUCH FOR THE CONVERSATION TONIGHT WELL DON'T COUNCIL NO STAFF LEFT IN THE ROOM BUT THE STAFF A GREAT JOB THIS MORNING THIS EVENING AS WELL AND THANKS TO THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO PARTICIPATED. HAVE A GOOD TUESDAY EVERYBODY. ENJOY OCTOBER OCTOBER