##VIDEO ID:lc4u7cK8H4I## .  GOOD EVENING EVERYONE AND WELCOME. I WILL CALL THIS BLOOMINGTON CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER OUR FIRST MEETING OF 2025. TONIGHT IS MONDAY JANUARY SIX, 2025.  WELCOME TO EVERYBODY WHO HAS JOINED US HERE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS AND EVERYONE WATCHING AT HOME. WE WILL START OUR MEETING AS WE ALWAYS DO IF YOU'RE ABLE PLEASE STAND REMOVE ANY COVERINGS AND JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.  I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL .  ONCE AGAIN, WELCOME TO EVERYBODY. I HOPE EVERYBODY HAD A GOOD HOLIDAY SEASON AND 2025 HAS STARTED OFF WELL FOR YOU COUNCIL OUR FIRST AGENDA ITEM OF THE EVENING IS TO ADOPT YOUR AGENDA AND ON OUR AGENDA THIS EVENING I THINK ONE OF THE EARLY AGENDAS THAT WENT OUT INCLUDED ITEM 2.1 WHICH IS THE INTRODUCTION OF NEW EMPLOYEES. WE WERE TAKING THAT OFF. WE HAD AT THE EMPLOYER THAT WE WERE GOING TO INTRODUCE IS NOT AVAILABLE TONIGHT SO WE'RE TAKING THAT OFF WHICH WOULD MAKE ITEM 2.1 BEING THE 2024 OMNIBUS ANDREW TD AWARD AND THE 2.2 ITEM WOULD BE THEN THE PROCLAMATION FOR MARTIN LUTHER KING DAY.  OUR CONSENT BUSINESS IS 18 ITEMS LONG AND COUNCILMEMBER CARTER HAS OUR CONSENT AGENDA THIS EVENING UNDER ITEM FOUR HEARINGS, RESOLUTIONS AND ORDINANCES. WE DON'T HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR TONIGHT BUT LEADS US TO NUMBER FIVE OUR ORGANIZATIONAL BUSINESS AND WE'VE GOT 13 ITEMS UNDER ORGANIZATIONAL BUSINESS. THE FIRST ITEM 5.1 IS A STUDY ITEM FOR OUR SMALL BUSINESS CODES AND PROCESSES.  ITEM 5.2 IS A LOOK AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION WORK PLAN FOR 2025 AND THEN WE GO INTO A SERIES OF APPOINTMENTS THAT WE DO ON OUR FIRST MEETING OF EVERY YEAR WE TYPICALLY DO 5.3 WILL BE APPOINTMENT TO THE BLOOMINGTON FIRE RELIEF ASSOCIATION.  5.4 IS AN APPOINTMENT TO THE 494 KERNER COMMISSION 5.5 TO THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION APPOINTMENT 5.6 THE STATE COMMUNITY HEALTH SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE APPOINTMENT 5.7 THE 35 W SOLUTIONS ALLIANCE 5.8 3169 CORRIDOR COALITION 5.9 BLOOMINGTON, MINNESOTA TRAVEL AND TOURISM APPOINTMENTS 510 OUR COUNCIL SECRETARY APPOINTMENT 511 WILL BE THE METRO CITIES BOARD OF DIRECTORS APPOINTMENT AND 512 WOULD BE THE GREATER METROPOLITAN AREA FOREIGN TRADE ZONE APPOINTMENT.  WE WILL WRAP UP WITH ITEM 5.3 13 OUR CITY COUNCIL POLICY AND ISSUE UPDATE COUNCIL ANY ADDITIONS, CORRECTIONS OR EDITS TO THE AGENDA AS STATED TONIGHT? IF NOT I WOULD MOVE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA AS STATED SECOND MOTION IN A SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER WOMAN TO ACCEPT TONIGHT'S AGENDA NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO NOTING THE ABSENCE OF COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS NOT WITH US THIS EVENING SO WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM 2.2 AND 2.3 ARE OUR BONNAROO TWO ONE. LET ME GET DOWN TO THE PODIUM . ITEM 2.1 THIS EVENING IS OUR ANNUAL OMAR BONNAROO AWARD AND THIS IS A SPECIAL AWARD. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT BLOOMINGTON HAS DONE EVERY YEAR FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS AND EVERY YEAR IT BRINGS OUT WHAT I THINK IS THE BEST IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON PEOPLE DOING WHAT'S RIGHT FOR THEIR COMMUNITY IN A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT WAYS AND RECEIVING AN AWARD NAMED FOR OMAR VANDER ROOD AND THE OMAR BONNAROO WITH HUMAN RIGHTS AWARD IS PRESENTED ANNUALLY AS I SAID BY OUR HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION TO AN INDIVIDUAL OR AN ORGANIZATION THAT HAS MADE SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTIONS TO ENSURING THE HUMAN RIGHTS OF THE PEOPLE OF BLOOMINGTON AND OMAR BONDER RUUD WAS THE FIRST CHAIRPERSON OF THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION WHICH WAS FOUNDED WAY BACK IN 1968 SHORTLY AFTER THE ASSASSINATION OF DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING.  THIS YEAR'S HONOREE IS BLOOMINGTON FREEDOM TO READ CLUB FOUNDING MEMBERS INCLUDE KATE BOLDEN, SHEA REISS NOOR I'M NOT GOING TO BLOW THIS ONE. NORA REGAN'S RUDE. DID I GET THAT RIGHT? VERY GOOD. THANK YOU, NORAH JOHNNY KERWIN, ELLA RASCH, WILLIE MORTENSON, ABIGAIL CLAYTON SCHMITZ AND AMBER HOLDEN.  WE'RE GOING TO HEAR A LOT MORE ABOUT WHAT THEY'VE DONE. AN IMPRESSIVE GROUP OF YOUNG PEOPLE AND WE'RE GONNA HEAR A LOT MORE ABOUT WHAT THEY'VE DONE IN JUST A MOMENT HERE.  BLOOMINGTON FREEDOM TO READ WAS CREATED BY THIS IMPRESSIVE GROUP OF JEFFERSON AND KENNEDY HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS TO ADVOCATE FOR THE RIGHT TO ACCESS INCLUSIVE LITERATURE. THEY ORGANIZED LISTENING SESSIONS, SPOKE AT SCHOOL BOARD MEETINGS AND SHARED PERSONAL STORIES TO DRAW ATTENTION TO THE IMPORTANCE OF INCLUSIVE REPRESENTATION IN SCHOOL LIBRARIES.  THE GROUP ACHIEVED WHAT WE LIKE TO CALL A VERY SIGNIFICANT VICTORY WHEN THE SCHOOL BOARD ADOPTED A NEW GENDER EQUITY POLICY FOR STAFF AND STUDENTS AND A STATE LAW WAS PASSED MAKING IT HARDER TO BAN BOOKS FROM MINNESOTA LIBRARIES CONGRATULATIONS TO BLOOMINGTON FREEDOM TO READ WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM THEM IN JUST A MOMENT. BUT FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO TURN THE PODIUM OVER TO THE CHAIR OF OUR HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION, ANITA SMITHSON. GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME. CHAIR THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MAYOR THANK YOU. A CITY COUNCIL CITY MANAGER, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGERS AND I WANTED TO RECOGNIZE THAT WE HAVE A FEW MEMBERS OF THE BLOOMINGTON SCHOOL BOARD THAT ARE HERE TODAY AS WELL AS THE HENNEPIN COUNTY LIBRARY BOARD AND COMMUNITY ADVOCATES AND PARENTS. SO THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE THIS MONDAY NIGHT. SO WHAT STOOD OUT TO THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION WAS THAT THIS AMAZING GROUP OF YOUNG PEOPLE WAS NOMINATED TWICE FOR THIS AWARD THIS YEAR BY TWO DIFFERENT MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY FOR THE WORK THAT THEY DID TO PROTECT AND EXPAND THE FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT OF ALL STUDENTS REALLY ONE OF THE NOMINATIONS FOCUSED ON THE IMPACT THEIR WORK HAD ON LOCAL POLICY THROUGH ESTABLISHING TWO SCHOOL BOARD POLICIES. FIRST A MEDIA POLICY THAT PROVIDES A PROCESS FOR THE SELECTION AND THE CHALLENGE TO READING MATERIALS AND SECOND A GENDER EQUITY POLICY FOR STAFF AND STUDENTS OF OUR BLOOMINGTON PUBLIC SCHOOLS.  PROTECTING THE RIGHTS OF YOUNG PEOPLE TO READ IS MOMENTOUS ON ITS OWN BUT THE ADDED BENEFIT OF CULTIVATING AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE YOUNG PEOPLE ARE FREE TO EXPRESS THE TRUEST VERSION OF THEMSELVES IS A PRICELESS ANTI-BULLYING AND HARM REDUCTION PRACTICE.  THE SECOND NOMINATION FOCUSED ON THE IMPACT THAT THEIR WORK HAS HAD ON STUDENTS, EDUCATORS AND SCHOOLS ACROSS MINNESOTA.  THROUGHOUT HISTORY RIGHTS HAVE OFTEN BEEN WON THROUGH HARD WORK AND ADVOCACY OF THOSE WHO ARE MOST IMPACTED BY THE DECISIONS BEING MADE BY STANDING UP, SPEAKING OUT AND TAKING ACTION. THIS GROUP OF YOUNG PEOPLE GARNERED ATTENTION IN BOTH OUR CITY AND ACROSS THE STATE AND THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS HELPED NOT ONLY ENSURE THAT LAWMAKERS UNDERSTOOD THEIR STORY BUT UNDERSTOOD THE IMPACTS TO THEM IF THEIR RIGHTS WEREN'T EXPLICITLY PROTECTED THROUGH THEIR ADVOCACY, THEY HELPED ENSURE PASSAGE OF A STATE LAW THAT MAKES IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR STUDENTS ACROSS MINNESOTA TO HAVE THEIR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS RESTRICTED THROUGH PUNITIVE MEDIA POLICIES.  WE ARE SO PROUD OF THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE TO FURTHER ENSHRINES THIS RIGHT FOR YEARS TO COME AND ARE GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE YOU WITH US TODAY AND FOR YOU TO RECEIVE THIS RECOGNITION AND TO BE ABLE TO TELL THE COMMUNITY ABOUT ALL OF YOUR EFFORTS.  SO I'M GOING TO ASK GRANT TO PLAY A VIDEO THAT WE HAVE THE CITY HAS WONDERFULLY PREPARED AND THEN WE WILL INTRODUCE THEM BOOKS ARE OFTEN A PLACE WHERE YOU CAN FIND YOURSELF REPRESENTED AND YOU DON'T FEEL LIKE YOU ARE ALONE OR YOU'RE AN OUTCAST OR THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH YOU. BLOOMINGTON FREEDOM TO READ WAS A GROUP THAT WE STARTED BECAUSE WE WERE EXPERIENCING ADULTS IN THE COMMUNITY WANTING TO BAN BOOKS FROM OUR HIGH SCHOOL MIDDLE SCHOOL AND ELEMENTARY SCHOOL LIBRARIES. AND AS STUDENTS WE WANTED TO SHARE OUR VOICES BECAUSE THESE WERE OUR SCHOOLS AND LET THE SCHOOL BOARD KNOW THAT WE WANTED TO KEEP THESE BOOKS AROUND. WE WERE A GROUP OF LIKE SIX OR SEVEN CORE MEMBERS AND 25 OR SO OTHER STUDENTS FROM BOTH KENNEDY AND JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOLS WHO CAME TOGETHER TO CHALLENGE THIS PETITION BY THE BLOOMINGTON PARENTS ALLIANCE ALSO ASSOCIATED WITH MOMS FOR LIBERTY TO REMOVE BOOKS FROM OUR SCHOOL LIBRARIES. AND SO WE CAME TOGETHER AND WE WROTE SPEECHES TO PRESENT TO THE SCHOOL BOARD DURING THEIR MONTHLY LISTENING SESSIONS TO SPEAK TOWARDS OUR OPPOSITION TO THIS PETITION. AS SOON AS YOU HAVE SOMEONE WHOSE IDENTITY IS STRIPPED FROM THE MEDIA, THEN THEY'RE STRIPPED FROM THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE AS WELL. SO WE FELT LIKE THE EFFORTS TARGETED, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE, TRANS PEOPLE ALL THESE DIFFERENT GROUPS OF STUDENTS WHO AT OUR SCHOOL ARE REPRESENTED BY THIS MEDIA AND BY TAKING THAT AWAY THEY WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, NOT REPRESENTED . AND THEN I'LL FEEL LIKE A PART OF THE COMMUNITY WHICH IS UNACCEPTABLE.  SO THE SCHOOL BOARD DECIDED TO MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR BOOKS TO BE REMOVED FROM OUR LIBRARIES. SO I THINK THAT'S A HUGE WIN FOR US.  THEY DEFINITELY LISTENED THAT WE FELT REPRESENTED. I THINK IT WAS A GREAT EFFORT ALL AROUND AND I'M REALLY HAPPY WITH HOW IT WENT. NOT ONLY DID WE SPEAK TO THE SCHOOL BOARD BUT WE SPOKE TO THE GOVERNOR AS WELL AND PEOPLE WHO DEAL WITH LIKE EDUCATION STATEWIDE WE SAW TIM WALZ PASS A POLICY THAT WOULD MAKE IT HARDER TO BAN BOOKS IN MINNESOTA.  SO THAT WAS REALLY NICE TO SEE THAT HE WAS WILLING TO MEET WITH US AND HEAR OUT OUR VOICES AND HEAR WHAT THE STUDENTS WANT AND THEN PUT THAT INTO ACTION.  IT FELT REALLY NICE WE WERE GETTING THIS AWARD FROM THE CITY. I FELT LIKE I FELT VERY APPRECIATED. IT FELT NICE TO HAVE OUR EFFORTS AFFIRMED.  IT WAS AN ACKNOWLEDGMENT THAT THE CITY AND THE SCHOOLS ARE STENING TO THE STUDENTS. IT'S A GREAT THING TO HAVE BUT IT'S ALSO IT WASN'T WHAT WE WERE GOING FOR THE WHOLE TIME. IT'S DEEPER THAN JUST GETTING RECOGNITION SO I'M EXCITED AND I'M HONORED AND I APPRECIATE IT BUT ALSO LIKE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS TO CONTINUE TO BE FOUGHT. THANK YOU TO THE SCHOOL BOARD AND THANK YOU TO ALL THE ADULTS THAT GUIDED US THROUGH THE CONTEXT OF BLOOMINGTON PARENTS ALLIANCE AND MOMS FOR LIBERTY AND SORT OF STARTED THE WORK THAT WE ENDED UP DOING. AND THANK YOU TO JOHNNY KERWIN MOMS WHO HOSTED ALL OF OUR MEETINGS OUTSIDE OF SCHOOL AND THANK YOU TO THE CITY AT LARGE . IT IS MY HONOR TO CONGRATULATE THE MEMBERS OF THE BLOOMINGTON FREEDOM. FREEDOM TO READ CLUB FOR BEING NAMED THE 2024 OMAR BOND HUMAN RIGHTS AWARD WINNERS KATIE. NORA. JOHNNY ELLA. LILY ABIGAIL AND AMBER. AS A MOM OF YOUNG PEOPLE, THANK YOU FOR SETTING A SHINING EXAMPLE FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR STATE AND YOU MAY COME. THANK YOU .  I'M OKAY ON BEHALF OF ALL OF OUR FOUNDING MEMBERS. THANK YOU. WE STARTED FREEDOM TRADE IN RESPONSE TO BOTH CHALLENGES AND BLOOMINGTON.  TOGETHER WE RAISED AWARENESS AND SPOKE AT SCHOOL BOARD LISTENING SESSIONS EMPHASIZING THE IMPORTANCE OF KEEPING THESE BOOKS IN OUR LIBRARIES. WE ARE SO GRATEFUL THAT WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK UP FOR WHAT WE BELIEVE IN AND ARE HAVING THAT RECOGNIZED HERE TONIGHT WE'D LIKE TO THANK OUR PARENTS FOR THEIR SUPPORT ESPECIALLY THE CURTIN'S WHO HOSTED OUR WRITING SESSIONS AND FED US REALLY GOOD FOOD. THANK YOU TO THE BLOOMINGTON MOMS WHO MADE THEIR SUPPORT FOR US KNOWN AND OUR JESUS CARE PACKAGES.  THANK YOU TO OUR TEACHERS FOR THEIR SUPPORT AND BELIEF IN US TO OTHER BLOOMINGTON RESIDENTS AND STUDENTS WHO MADE THEIR VOICES HEARD INDIVIDUALLY AT LISTENING SESSIONS. THANK YOU TO THE SCHOOL BOARD FOR LISTENING TO US AND TAKING OUR IDEAS AND BELIEFS INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN REVISING THE LIBRARY MATERIALS POLICY. THANK YOU TO THE AUTHORS WHO WRITE BOOKS WORTH FIGHTING FOR. THANK YOU TO EVERYONE HERE TONIGHT WHO SHOWED UP TO SUPPORT.  AND LASTLY THANK YOU TO THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION AND THE CITY FOR WHAT THEY DO TO KEEP BLOOMINGTON AN INCLUSIVE PLACE. WE ARE HONORED AND GRATEFUL TO RECEIVE THIS AWARD.  HOWEVER THE FIGHT IS NOT OVER . THANK YOU, ABBIE AND HELLO EVERYONE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE. YOUR PRESENCE IS MUCH APPRECIATED.  THANK YOU. THANKS FOR ALL OF YOUR SUPPORT. FREEDOM TO READ WAS ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH MUCH AS A GROUP FROM SPEAKING AT SCHOOL BOARD LISTENING SESSIONS TO CAMPAIGNING FOR SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS TO EVEN BEING RECOGNIZED BY THE GOVERNOR OF MINNESOTA. HOWEVER, AS ABBIE SAID, THIS FIGHT DOESN'T END WITH US. FREEDOM TO READ AT ITS CORE WAS CREATED IN DEFENSE OF DIVERSITY, REPRESENTATION AND TRUTH.  IN THE COMING YEARS WE ANTICIPATE MANY CHALLENGES TO THESE TENANTS AS OUR NEW ADMINISTRATION HAS MADE IT CLEAR THAT DEFENDING EDUCATION IS NOT A PRIORITY. BOOKS HAVE ALREADY BEEN UNDER SIEGE ACROSS THE NATION WITH OVER 10,000 BOOK BANS IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS LAST YEAR ALONE.  AND THIS CAMPAIGN AGAINST LITERATURE HAS USHERED IN INCREASED CENSORSHIP NOT ONLY IN LIBRARIES BUT IN SCHOOLS CURRICULUMS AS WELL EVIDENCED BY THE WAVES OF OPPOSITION TO ACADEMIC CONCEPTS SUCH AS CRITICAL RACE THEORY AND EVEN SOCIAL AND EMOTIONAL LEARNING. HOWEVER, WE AS STUDENTS, AS EDUCATORS AND AS READERS CANNOT UNDERESTIMATE OUR TO ENACT MEANINGFUL CHANGE WHEN WE ARE EDUCATED, ORGANIZED AND ENGAGED THIS MEANS HAVING DIFFICULT CONVERSATIONS WITH FAMILY MEMBERS AND THOSE WHOSE VIEWS DIFFER FROM YOUR OWN. THIS MEANS INTERROGATING YOUR OWN INTERNAL PREJUDICES AND BIASES AND THIS MEANS READING BANNED BOOKS WE BELIEVE WHOLEHEARTEDLY.  LITERATURE IS WHAT EMPOWERS YOUTH TO ENGAGE WITH THEIR COMMUNITIES, TO BUILD POLITICAL MOVEMENTS AND TO FIND THEIR VOICES. IT'S WHAT ENABLES STUDENTS TO COME TO TERMS WITH THEIR IDENTITIES TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY FIT INTO SOCIETY AND TO FORGE THEIR OWN PATH FORWARD. WE BELIEVE THAT BOOKS ARE THE FOUNDATION OF PROGRESS AND IT IS OUR DUTY TO PROTECT THEM. THANK YOU .  THANK YOU BOTH SO VERY MUCH AND FOR BEING SUCH OUTSTANDING REPRESENTATIVES OF THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. AND THANKS TO ALL OF YOU FOR THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE. AND COULD YOU HELP ME PASS THE PLAQUES OUT BECAUSE WE HAVE TO GET A PICTURE. OF COURSE. CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL OF YOU . CONGRATULATIONS FOR THE GREAT WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE FOR YOUR COMMITMENT TO YOUR CITY AND FOR YOUR COMMITMENT TO A CAUSE BIGGER THAN YOURSELVES AND JUST BEING OUTSTANDING REPRESENTATIVES. SO THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. LET'S GET A PICTURE , HUH? SAY CHEESE .  THANK YOU .  Y'ALL DON'T HAVE TO LEAVE. WE STILL HAVE A MEETING SO.  SOME GOOD STUFF COMING UP. SO SANDWICHES.  THERE'S SANDWICHES OUT THERE.  I MENTIONED EARLIER THAT OUR HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION WAS FORMED BACK IN 1968 AND MENTIONED THE CONNECTION TO DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING AND SO IT SEEMS APPROPRIATE THAT THIS NEXT PROCLAMATION FOR MARTIN LUTHER KING JR DAY COMES ON THE SAME NIGHT THAT WE TALK ABOUT THE OF BONNAROO AWARD AND IT DOES EVERY YEAR WHICH WHICH WORKS OUT VERY NICELY I THINK IT'S JUST A NICE SYMMETRY WITHIN OUR THE WORK THAT WE DO HERE IN THE CITY AND SO THIS PROCLAMATION FOR MARTIN LUTHER KING JR DAY JANUARY 20TH, 2025 WHEREAS DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING JR THE LEADER OF THE MODERN CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT IN THE UNITED STATES WAS BORN ON JANUARY 15TH, 1929 IN ATLANTA, GEORGIA . AND. WHEREAS DR. KING DEVOTED HIS LIFE TO ADVANCING CIVIL RIGHTS AND PUBLIC SERVICES. AND. WHEREAS, DR. KING'S MESSAGE EVOLVED OVER TIME FOR ONE OF BASIC CIVIC RIGHTS OF VOTING AND DESEGREGATION TO ADVANCING LABOR RIGHTS, ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL JUSTICE AND PEACE AND DIGNITY FOR ALL. AND. WHEREAS DR. KING LOOKED FORWARD TO THE DAY WHEN EVERYONE WOULD BE JUDGED NOT BY THE COLOR OF THEIR SKIN BUT BY THE CONTENT OF THEIR CHARACTER AND WHEREAS, DR. KING CHALLENGED A MODERATE STANCE AGAINST RACIAL INEQUALITY, QUESTIONING THOSE WHO WOULD TELL BLACK AMERICANS TO WAIT FOR A MORE CONVENIENT TIME FOR ACTION OR THOSE WHO WOULD UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR JUSTICE BUT NOT AGREE WITH THE METHODS OF DIRECT ACTION AND.  WHEREAS DR. KING'S PURSUIT OF JUSTICE AND COALITION BUILDING GREW TO UNITE THOSE SUFFERING FROM RACISM AND ALSO THOSE SUFFERING IN POVERTY RECOGNIZING THAT THERE CAN AND SHOULD BE AN UPLIFT FOR ALL WHO ARE UNJUSTLY AND UNNECESSARILY ENCUMBERED BY AN ECONOMIC SYSTEM THAT AMPLIFIES DISPARITY AND CONCENTRATES WEALTH INTO FEWER HANDS. AND. WHEREAS, DR. KING'S DREAM CONTINUES TO INSPIRE OUR NATION AND IS JUST AS IMPORTANT TODAY AS IT WAS IN THE 1960S. AND. WHEREAS THERE ARE MANY GOALS THAT THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON MUST REALIZE IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE THE CITY'S STRATEGIC PRIORITY OF INCLUSION AND EQUITY FOR ALL RESIDENTS.  AND. WHEREAS, DR. KING WAS ASSASSINATED ON APRIL 4TH, 1968 AND AFTER 15 YEARS OF ADVOCACY. MARTIN LUTHER KING JR DAY WAS SIGNED INTO LAW IN 1983 AND FIRST CELEBRATED AS A FEDERAL HOLIDAY IN 1986 BUT WAS NOT OFFICIALLY OBSERVED IN ALL 50 STATES UNTIL THE YEAR 2000. NOW THEREFORE I'M HERE TO SEE DO HEREBY PROCLAIM JANUARY 20TH, 2025 AS MARTIN LUTHER KING JR DAY AND.  ASK ALL COMMUNITY MEMBERS IN BLOOMINGTON TO REMEMBER AND REFLECT ON THE PRINCIPLES OF RACIAL EQUALITY AND NONVIOLENT SOCIAL CHANGE ESPOUSED BY DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. AND TO REDEDICATE THEMSELVES TO THE PHILOSOPHY THAT WE CAN ALL SHARE THE DREAM FOR A BETTER LIFE NOT ONLY IN BLOOMINGTON BUT ALSO IN THE WORLD. DATED THE SIXTH DAY OF JANUARY 2025. AS I SAID, I THINK IT'S SO FITTING THAT OUR OMAR ROAD AWARD AND THE MARTIN LUTHER KING PROCLAMATION HAPPENED ON THE SAME EVENING AND THEY HAVE BEEN FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS WITH THE TIMING OF WHAT WE DO. AND I THINK IT'S FITTING AND IT REFLECTS NOT ONLY WHAT WE LOOK FOR AND WHAT WE WHAT WE ENVISION FOR OUR CITY BUT WHAT WE LOOK FOR AND WHAT WE ENVISION IN OUR COUNTRY AS WELL. SO I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANYONE TO ACCEPT THE PROCLAMATION TONIGHT BUT WE HAVE THE PROCLAMATION AND I'M PROUD TO HAVE READ IT AND COUNSEL IF YOU WILL IF YOU WILL BEG ME A BIT OF A MAYOR'S PRIVILEGE, I'M GOING TO DO A QUICK WALK ON HERE IF THAT'S OKAY. ANOTHER PROCLAMATION THAT WE HAVE BLOOMINGTON IS UNIQUE IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS. UNIQUE IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS.  AND ONE WAY THAT IS IT ESPECIALLY UNIQUE IS OVER THE PAST 60 YEARS, 50 YEARS THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON HAS HAD THREE CITY MANAGERS JOHN PIDGEON, MARK BENENSON AND JAMIE RUBY. THAT JUST DOES NOT HAPPEN IN CITIES ANYWHERE AND IT'S A TESTAMENT TO THE INCREDIBLE QUALITY OF THOSE LEADERS. BUT IT'S ALSO A TESTAMENT TO WHAT THIS COMMUNITY EXPECTS OUT OF ITS LEADERS AND WHAT IT EXPECTS OUT OF MANAGEMENT IN GOVERNMENT AND IN OUR IN OUR COMMUNITY JUST IN GENERAL.  AND WE SAY GOODNIGHT WE SAY TONIGHT WE SAY GOODBYE TO OUR CITY MANAGER JAMIE RUBY. THIS IS HIS LAST MEETING AS BLOOMINGTON CITY MANAGER. I LIKE TO POINT OUT TO JAMIE THAT I KNEW HIS DAD BEFORE I KNEW HIM BECAUSE I WORKED WITH HIS DAD AT THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA.  SARGE WAS ON THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND I WORKED AT THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA BUT HAD THE OPPORTUNITY AND THE PLEASURE OF KNOWING JAMIE BECAUSE OF OUR PATHS CROSSING THROUGH CITY INTERACTIONS AT THE CITY OF ROSEMONT, THE CITY OF EAGAN IN DIFFERENT CITY GROUPS IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS AND I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW FORTUNATE WE WERE BACK TEN YEARS AGO WHEN MARK BERNSTEIN HAD RETIRED AND JAMIE APPLIED AND WAS ONE OF THE FINALISTS FOR THIS POSITION. THE FACT THAT HE WAS CHOSEN HERE AS I SAID, REFLECTS THIS COMMUNITY'S INSISTENCE ON EXCELLENCE IN LEADERSHIP AND ITS INSISTENCE ON NOT ONLY HAVING A STRONG PUBLIC LEADER BUT A GOOD MAN IN THAT SEAT AS CITY MANAGER. AND I'M GOING TO MISS HIM.  I GOOD FOR JAMIE GOOD FOR CATHOLIC CHARITIES, WHICH IS WHERE JAMIE'S GOING BAD FOR US. WE'RE CERTAINLY GOING TO MISS HIM BECAUSE OF ALL THAT HE HAS BROUGHT TO THIS COMMUNITY OVER THE YEARS OF THE PAST DECADE. AND I'M GOING TO MISS HIM PERSONALLY BECAUSE AFTER KNOWING HIM KNOWING HIM FOR 25 OR 30 YEARS, HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH HIM FOR TEN IT'S JUST NOT GOING TO BE THE SAME TO COME INTO THE OFFICE AND NOT BE ABLE TO SIT AND TALK GOPHER FOOTBALL WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON? WHAT'S GOING ON AT THE STATE AND NATIONAL LEVEL? TRAVELING WITH HIM TO CONFERENCES AND WASHINGTON D.C. AND HAVING THAT PERSPECTIVE IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFERENT.  AND WITH THAT I'M GOING TO READ A PROCLAMATION FOR JAMIE FROM RUI DE.  JANUARY SIX, 2025 WHEREAS JAMIE IF YOU BOOGIE YOU WANT TO COME DOWN HERE ONCE YOU COME ON DOWN HERE SO YEAH COME ON OUT HERE LET'S GET THE PHOTO OPS SHOULD WE EXAGGERATOR OKAY LET'S GO JAMIE FOR BOOGIE DAY JANUARY SIX, 2020 DO YOU WANT TO DO THIS IN YOUR BIG STADIUM VOICE OR NO I'LL DO IT.  I'LL DO IT.  WHERE IS JAMIE EVER BOOGIE SERVED IN THE TOP LEADERSHIP ROLE OF CITY MANAGER FOR BLOOMINGTON SINCE 2015 OVERSEEING KEY INITIATIVES AWARD WINNING SERVICES AND MANY ACCOMPLISHMENTS THAT INCLUDED CREATING BLOOMINGTON TOMORROW TOGETHER THE CITY'S FIRST COMMUNITY BASED STRATEGIC PLAN WITH A MISSION TO CREATE AN ENDURING AND REMARKABLE COMMUNITY WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO BE AND WHERE IS ALWAYS A FORWARD THINKING LEADER. JAMIE SPEARHEADED BLOOMINGTON'S BID TO BECOME A FINALIST TO A U.S. HOST FOR THE 2027 WORLD EXPO. HE LED EDUCATIONAL EFFORTS THAT RESULTED IN VOTERS PASSING A SALES TAX TO FUND $155 MILLION IN COMMUNITY INVESTMENTS. AND HE OVERSAW EFFORTS TO REIMAGINE BLOOMINGTON SOUTH LOOP DISTRICT THROUGH SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENT AND CREATIVE PLACEMAKING. AND. WHEREAS, UNDER HIS LEADERSHIP CITY MADE CRITICAL INVESTMENTS IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND SUSTAINABILITY TO SUPPORT LONG TERM INFRASTRUCTURE, EQUITABLE GROWTH AND CLIMATE RESILIENCE . AND. WHEREAS, DURING JAMIE'S TENURE, THE CITY'S LEADERSHIP AND WORKFORCE BECAME MORE DIVERSE AND THE CITY ADVANCED THE STRATEGIC PLANNING AND RACIAL EQUITY INCLUSIVITY, INCLUSIVITY, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND, INNOVATION.  AND. WHEREAS, WITH JAMIE AT THE HELM RESIDENTS SATISFACTION WITH SERVICES AND QUALITY OF LIFE REMAINED HIGH AS REFLECTED ANNUAL SURVEYS AND BLOOMINGTON MAINTAINED ITS TOP TRIPLE-A BOND RATING.  AND. WHEREAS JAMIE DEDICATED MUCH OF HIS TIME OUTSIDE OF HIS CITY MANAGER ROLE BY SERVING ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR ARTISTRY THE AMERICAN RED CROSS AND NORTH HENNEPIN COMMUNITY COLLEGE AND IS A MEMBER AND PRESIDENT OF THE BLOOMINGTON NOON ROTARY CLUB. AND. WHEREAS, BLOOMINGTON RECEIVED MULTIPLE AWARDS AND RECOGNITIONS UNDER JAMIE'S LEADERSHIP INCLUDING BEST DRINKING WATER AND SAID  OH I'VE I OVER I'LL TRY THAT AGAIN.  WHEREAS BLOOMINGTON RECEIVED MULTIPLE AWARDS AND RECOGNITIONS UNDER JAMIE'S LEADERSHIP INCLUDING BEST DRINKING WATER IN THE STATE AND COUNTRY INCREASE TRANSPARENCY AND ENHANCED COMMUNICATIONS, HEALTH AND WELLNESS INITIATIVES AND EXCELLENCE IN SUSTAINABILITY AND PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICES.  NOW THEREFORE I MAYOR TIM BUSSEY DO HEREBY PROCLAIM JANUARY SIX, 2025 AS JAMIE BOOGIE DAY IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON DATED THE SIXTH DAY OF JANUARY 2025. THANK YOU. CONGRATULATIONS BUT THANK YOU SO I DON'T KNOW WHO TO BLAME FOR THIS OTHER THAN MYSELF, RIGHT? I MEAN I ONLY HAVE MYSELF TO BLAME FOR THIS.  THANK YOU, MAYOR.  I APOLOGIZE. I USUALLY SHOW UP FOR DIGNIFIED PROCEEDINGS LIKE A COUNCIL MEETING LOOKING NOT LIKE A SCHLUB.  BUT I FEEL LIKE CLEANING OUT THE SHED TODAY CIRCUMSTANCES.  RIGHT. AND I ACTUALLY USE THAT PHRASE THAT THESE ARE DIGNIFIED PROCEEDINGS BECAUSE I HONESTLY BELIEVE THAT I MEAN THE WORK THAT GETS DONE HERE IS REALLY IMPORTANT WORK AND THE FOLKS THAT ARE SITTING BEHIND ME AND THE GUY STANDING NEXT TO ME DESERVE A LOT OF CREDIT FOR THEIR WILLINGNESS TO STEP FORWARD IN THE COMMUNITY.  LOCAL GOVERNMENT IS WHERE IT HAPPENS IN THIS COUNTRY, RIGHT ? THE THING THAT AFFECTS PEOPLE'S LIVES MOST DIRECTLY IS WHERE THEY LIVE AND THE FACT THAT YOU'RE WILLING TO DO THAT WORK IS REALLY IMPORTANT AND THE FACT YOU ENTRUSTED ME TO DO THIS WORK IS SOMETHING THAT I WILL BE GRATEFUL FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE AND AS I LOOK AT SOME OF THE FOLKS THAT ARE HERE THIS ROAD A COUPLE OF ROWS RIGHT HERE YOU DON'T GET TO THIS PLACE WITHOUT HAVING SOME REALLY FANTASTIC MENTORS AND PROFESSIONAL FRIENDS WHO GUIDE YOU ALONG THE WAY.  TOM HEDGES IS SITTING HERE WHO IS THE CITY ADMINISTRATOR AND EAGAN FOR 36 YEARS 37 YEARS TOM I LEARNED A TON FROM HIM CRAIG RAPP WHO WAS ONE OF MY PREDECESSORS IN BROOKLYN PARK SURVIVED TO TELL THE STORY AND THEN ACTUALLY USE THAT EXPERIENCE TO MAKE A WHOLE LOT OF US BETTER CITY MANAGERS AS A RESULT. AND CRAIG HAS ALSO WORKED WITH OUR CITY AND DONE SOME STRATEGIC PLANNING HERE WITH US. DAVE OSTBERG IS ONE OF MY BEST FRIENDS IN THE BUSINESS WAS A GOOD MENTOR FOR ME RICHARD FURMAN SITTING THERE ANOTHER ONE OF MY BEST FRIENDS IN THE BUSINESS AND HAS BEEN A TREMENDOUS PARTNER AS WE'VE DONE WORK HERE HAS ALSO WORKED WITH THE CITY COUNCIL WITH HIS WIFE IRINA FURMAN WHO IS ONE OF THE MOST AMAZING FACILITATORS AND SHEPARD'S OF PROCESS OF ANYBODY THAT I'VE EVER MET. MATT FULTON'S ANOTHER GREAT LEADER NOW WORKING FOR ICM DIDN'T HIRE ME TO BE HIS ASSISTANT AND NOT ONLY THAT DIDN'T REMEMBER THAT EVEN INTERVIEWED AND HAS BECOME ONE OF MY BEST FRIENDS.  SO DIANE MILLER WHO ACTUALLY STARTED WORKING AS AN INTERN IN EAGAN TOOK MY JOB THERE AND IS NOW THE CITY ADMINISTRATOR THERE AND DOING A FANTASTIC YOU KNOW, BEING ABLE TO DO THIS WORK AND HAVE SUCH REALLY, REALLY GOOD FRIENDS WHO UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS JOB IS ABOUT AND PROVIDE SUPPORT HAS BEEN VERY MEANINGFUL TO ME AND THAT YOU'RE SITTING HERE IS VERY MEANINGFUL TO ME.  IT'S THE STAFF AT THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON IS SECOND TO NONE PERIOD. I DON'T SAY THAT BECAUSE I HIRED THEM. I DON'T SAY THAT BECAUSE I GET TO DIRECT THEM EVERY DAY. I SAY IT BECAUSE I GET TO SEE IT EVERY DAY IN THE WORK THAT THEY DO AND IT IS AN ABSOLUTE PLEASURE TO GET TO WORK WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE SUCH AMAZING AND COMMITTED PUBLIC SERVANTS THIS IS SPECIAL AND THE WORK THAT HAS HAPPENED HERE HAPPENS BECAUSE THEY ARE EXCEPTIONAL AT THE WORK THAT THEY DO. I DO THINK THAT I HIRE WELL IT'S I THINK THAT'S ONE OF MY STRENGTHS AS A LEADERS I CAN IDENTIFY REALLY GOOD LEADERS AND THEN BEING ABLE TO TRUST THEM TO DO THE WORK IS PART OF GOOD LEADERSHIP AND THIS GROUP DOES GREAT WORK AND IT'S NOT JUST THE FOLKS WHO ARE SITTING IN THE ROOM TODAY IT'S THE OTHER 700 OR SO FOLKS WHO WORK FOR THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AS WELL.  THIS COMMUNITY IS INCREDIBLY WELL-SERVED BECAUSE OF THEM AND THEN THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF RABBLE ROUSERS SITTING HERE. THESE ARE ALL MY BEST FRIENDS IN THE WORLD THAT I GREW UP WITH. I MEAN I'VE KNOWN THESE GUYS FOR SOME OF THESE GUYS FOR ALMOST 45 YEARS MAYBE EVEN MORE THAN THAT.  AND THEN MY FAMILY SITTING HERE AS WELL AND I DON'T KNOW WHY SHE'S SITTING OVER THERE LIKE VIDEOING THIS WHOLE THING INSTEAD OF ACTUALLY SITTING WITH THE REST OF THE FAMILY.  BUT YOU KNOW, THIS THIS IS A THIS IS A FULL FAMILY COMMITMENT WHEN YOU TAKE A JOB LIKE THIS, THE FAMILY MAKE SACRIFICES. THE FAMILY HAS TO PROVIDE A LOT OF SUPPORT AND CAN'T DO A JOB LIKE THIS WITHOUT HAVING THEM AS PART OF IT.  IT'S NICE THAT MY LIFE PARTNER IS ALSO A LOCAL GOVERNMENT PERSON WE MET WORKING AT THE CITY OF RICHFIELD 3030 YEARS DOWN 28 YEARS AGO, 29 YEARS AGO WHATEVER. SHE KEPT STOPPING BY MY CUBE AND I'M REALLY GLAD THAT SHE DID BECAUSE I NEVER WOULD HAVE PICKED UP ON THE CUES OTHER TIMES LOOK I.  I PAY ATTENTION TO A LOT OF THINGS BUT SOMETIMES I'M A LITTLE BIT OBLIVIOUS TO WHAT YOU ALL HONOR ME TONIGHT. THANK YOU. I REALLY APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU MADE TIME FROM YOUR SCHEDULE TO COME JOIN ME.  I TOLD THEM HERE THIS EVENING IT'S BEEN A COUPLE OF WEEKS IN THE FAMILY.  I WON'T BORE YOU WITH ALL THE DETAILS BUT HAVEN'T HAD A LOT OF TIME TO PREPARE FOR THIS BECAUSE I ANTICIPATED AT THE END OF THE MEETING THAT I'D MAKE SOME REMARKS AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I GIVE CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE TO THE FOLKS THAT ARE SITTING BEHIND ME AND TO EVERYBODY WHO HELPS MAKE THIS ENTERPRISE HAPPEN ON A DAILY BASIS.  BUT I WASN'T QUITE SURE WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY AND THANKS TO MELISSA, OUR CITY ATTORNEY WHO MADE SURE I HAD ONE OF THESE I'M NOT GOING TO NEED IT. I DON'T THINK YOU KNOW, I TELL PEOPLE ALL THE TIME THAT I DON'T DO FEELINGS SO I'M JUST GOING TO LEAVE THIS RIGHT HERE. I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, THESE LAST TEN YEARS HAVE BEEN HAVE BEEN AMAZING.  BLOOMINGTON IS A AN ECONOMIC ENGINE FOR THE STATE AND I KNEW A LOT OF THOSE THINGS WHEN I CAME HERE. BUT WHAT I DIDN'T REALLY APPRECIATE WAS THE THAT EXISTED IN THIS COMMUNITY TO ACTUALLY BE A GREAT COMMUNITY AND THE FACT THAT THE COUNCIL WAS ABLE TO ARTICULATE A MISSION AND A VISION, A FUTURE WHERE THEY WANTED TO GO AND THEN ACTUALLY GAVE US THE SUPPORT AND THE RESOURCES NECESSARY TO GO AND MAKE THAT HAPPEN BECAUSE A LOT OF A LOT OF ELECTED OFFICIALS PAY LIP SERVICE TO THINGS LIKE MISSION AND VISION AND THIS ONE DOESN'T THIS ONE THIS THIS GROUP RIGHT HERE THEY WANT TO SEE GOOD THINGS HAPPEN IN THE COMMUNITY AND YOU'RE WILLING TO DO THE THINGS WHICH SOMETIMES ARE POLITICALLY RISKY. YOU'RE WILLING TO DO THE THINGS THAT ARE NECESSARY TO GET THERE AND I HAVE EVERY DAY APPRECIATED THE SUPPORT AND EVERY DAY THAT I'VE WALKED THROUGH THE DOORS OF THIS BUILDING I HAVE BEEN GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE SO I'M GOING TO STOP THERE.  YEAH. THANK YOU. YEAH .  OKAY.  AND I ALMOST FORGOT BECAUSE WE'RE BLOOMINGTON WE'VE GOT A VIDEO.  IT'S WORTH THE WAIT. THERE'S MORE AND MORE.  OKAY. I'M GOING TO HELLO EVERYBODY. WELCOME BACK TO ANOTHER ISSUE OF THE ROOKIE VLOG. WE ARE DOING IT LIVE FROM RIVER RENDEZVOUS.  I'M SHOWING OFF MY GRILLING ABILITIES SO I GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT I DON'T BURN LORIE WITH SOME OF THE FIRE THAT'S COMING UP INTO THE CAMERA LIKE THAT. I'M GOING TO HOP UP INTO ONE OF OUR PLOW TRUCKS AND I'M GOING TO TAKE US FOR A SPIN AROUND THE WESTERN MAINTENANCE FACILITY. THE ONLY WAY I CAN GET THIS WRONG IS IF I GO FOR A SWIM CORRECT .  WE'RE STANDING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE POOL RIGHT NOW AND THE VESSEL HERE COMES TO CALL THE MOST VISIBLE SERVICE THAT THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON PROVIDES IS PUBLIC SAFETY. I'M REALLY STARTING TO HAVE SECOND THOUGHTS ABOUT THIS.  I'M READY TO DO THIS.  OH, WHY DID I DO THIS? WHY DO THIS? I DON'T DO THIS. HANG ON, HANG ON. GO ON, GO ON.  OH MR. OH I'VE  GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY. WELCOME BACK TO ANOTHER FRIDAY LIVE I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE CONTINUATION OF REMOTE WORKING IN 2015 WHEN I STARTED FEWER THAN 5% OF OUR STAFF IDENTIFIED AS BLACK, LATINO,  ASIAN, INDIGENOUS OR OTHER AND TODAY THAT NUMBER IS CLOSE TO 18% WHICH REPRESENTS A SIGNIFICANT STRIDE FORWARD AND ONE OF MY GOALS WHICH IS TO MAKE SURE OUR ORGANIZATION REFLECTS THE COMMUNITY THAT WE SERVE. WE BET ON BLOOMINGTON WITH THE EXPO BID AND THOUGH WE DIDN'T WIN IT WE'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL. THIS IS THE 10TH STATE OF THE CITY THAT WE'VE DONE SINCE I STARTED IN BLOOMINGTON AND NEVER HAVE WE HAD SO MUCH TO REPORT ON BUT WHAT WE'RE DOING TO PARTNER WITH AND TO PROMOTE AND TO SUPPORT OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY OUR RESIDENTS HAVE TIME AND AGAIN DEMONSTRATED HOW MUCH THEY CARE ABOUT BLOOMINGTON, HOW REMARKABLE THEY THINK IT IS AS A COMMUNITY AND HOW FIRMLY COMMITTED THEY ARE TO A FUTURE WHERE PEOPLE CAN HAVE THAT SAME EXPERIENCE IN BLOOMINGTON AND I THINK I CAN SPEAK FOR, YOU KNOW, A GOOD CHUNK OF ALL OF US THEIR WORK HERE CALLED ME UP THIS MORNING. TELL ME ABOUT THE NEW YOU FOUND SAID I'M HAPPY FOR YOU LOOK I'M REALLY HAPPY FOR YOU AND THAT IS A WRAP ON FRIDAY LIGHT A LOT TO GET TO REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S PATIENCE A LOT TO CELEBRATE HERE SO MANY GOOD THINGS GOING ON RIGHT NOW. I KNOW THAT EVERYBODY IS JUST BUSIER THAN HECK HERE AND WE NEVER SEEM TO SLOW DOWN. I JUST AGAIN WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU ARE DOING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE SUCCESSFUL AND THAT THIS COMMUNITY CONTINUES TO BE AN ENDURING AND REMARKABLE COMMUNITY WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO BE UP, UP AND AWAY .  NOW WE DO HAVE TO TAKE PICTURES SO OH WELL IF ANYBODY WANTS TO BE IN THE PICTURE COME ON UP HERE PLEASE. PLEASE COME UP HERE  FIRST YOU DID GET INVITED TO GET 100.  YEAH, YEAH , YEAH, YEAH. NO WORRIES.  I WAS GOING FIRST. MAKE SURE YOU DON'T LOOK AT ME . YEAH, WE CAN .  WE KNOW WHERE YOU ARE FOR COMMON COURTESY. NICE. GOOD , WONDERFUL AND VERY POLITE. OH, I'M GLAD TO BE HERE .  OH  OH  KNOW I ALMOST FORGOT ABOUT THE VIDEO.  NOW I JUST WANT TO MAKE ONE NOTE MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS IS THAT I'M STILL WORKING TOMORROW SO DISCIPLINE CAN BE METADATA SO NO YOU KNOW FIRST RULE IS YOU DON'T WANT TO SURPRISE THE CITY MANAGER. SO YOU KNOW, I'M SURE YOUR DECISION. THANK YOU. WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM THREE OUR CONSENT BUSINESS THIS EVENING OUR CONSENT BUSINESS COUNCIL MEMBER CARTER HAS THE CONSENT AGENDA WE HAVE 18 ITEMS COUNCILMEMBER CARTER THANK YOU MAYOR. SO I THINK WE HAVE 19 ITEMS, CORRECT.  THANK YOU. YES, 19 MY APOLOGIES AND MAKE SURE I GOT THE NUMBER EIGHT DO YOU HAVE ANY HOLDS 3.1 AND 3.2? I JUST WANT TO JUMP OUT OF THOSE. OKAY HERE NO OTHERS I WOULD MOVE TO APPROVE ITEMS 3.3 TO 3.19. SO AGAIN WE HAVE A MOTION IN THE SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER TO ACCEPT IN A CONSENT BUSINESS AS STATED NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO AND I'M 3.1 COUNCIL MEMBER WOMAN OUT THERE DO MY JOB AT THE TREASURY I WANT TO AVOID VOTING FOR THIS I TO ABSTAIN FROM THIS VERY GOOD COUNCILMEMBER CARTER IF YOU CAN MOVE ITEM 3.1 AND 3.2 PERHAPS AND WHY DON'T WE WE CAN DO A TWO AND 3.2 WE CAN DO THEM TOGETHER. CORRECT.  LET'S DO THOSE TOGETHER. ALL RIGHT. I WOULD MOVE TO APPROVE ITEMS 3.1 AND 3.2. SO AGAIN MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER TO ACCEPT ITEMS 3.1 AND 3.2 AND TONIGHT'S CONSENT BUSINESS NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED AND ME FIRST AND ABSTENTION FROM COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SO COUNCIL PASSES 508 WITH ONE ABSTENTION. THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER CARTER WE WILL MOVE ON IN OUR AGENDA AS I MENTIONED WHEN WE WENT THROUGH IT NO HEARINGS AND RESOLUTIONS AND ORDINANCES THIS EVENING SO WE WILL MOVE ON TO OUR ORGANIZATIONAL BUSINESS. ITEM 5.1 IS A STUDY ITEM THIS REGARDING OUR SMALL BUSINESS CODES AND PROCESSES AND NICK JOHNSON FROM OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS HERE TO LEAD US THROUGH THIS. GOOD EVENING, MR. JOHNSON. THANK YOU, MADAM MEMBERS. THAT'S A HARD ACT TO FOLLOW OF ALL THOSE INTRODUCTORY ITEMS. I MUST SAY THAT WAS FUN TO WATCH AND THANKS TO THE CITY MANAGER FOR HIS SERVICE TO THE CITY. YEAH LET'S GET GOING. SO THE STUDY ITEM BEFORE YOU IS A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT CITY CODE REQUIREMENTS THAT OFTEN INTERSECT OR INTERACT WITH SMALL BUSINESSES EITHER WHEN THEY ARE BEING FORMED OR GET GETTING OCCUPANCY OR CONTINUE EFFECT OPERATIONS AS THEY OPERATE IN BLOOMINGTON.  SO I SHOULD NOTE THAT I DO HAVE WITH ME BARB WOLFE FROM THE CITY'S PORT AUTHORITY.  SHE HAS BECOME OR CONTINUES TO BE ONE OF THE MAIN CONDUITS FROM THE SMALL BUSINESS COMMUNITY INTO COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND THE CITY SO IF CALLED UPON SHE CAN PROBABLY PROVIDE SOME FEEDBACK FROM FROM THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY. IN ADDITION PLANNER DAKOTA CASSIDY IS ALSO WITH ME TO PRESENT THE EXTERIOR MATERIALS AND COATINGS PORTION OF THE PRESENTATION. SO THANKS TO THEM JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND AROUND THIS PROJECT.  SO IF YOU RECALL I WAS STANDING HERE A YEAR AGO AND THE CITY COUNCIL ADDED THIS PROJECT TO OUR WORK PLAN AND APPRECIATIVE OF YOU DOING SO IN TERMS OF THE SUPPORT FOR THIS PROJECT. SO THERE'S MULTIPLE IMPORTANT POLICY DOCUMENTS AT CITY OF BLOOMINGTON THAT SUPPORT THIS WORK IN TERMS OF JUST REFINING OUR CITY CODES AND REGULATIONS AROUND IMPROVING THE LOCAL ECONOMIC CONDITIONS OF THE CITY. BUT MOST MOST NOTABLY MAYBE PERHAPS IS THE FIVE YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN AROUND PRIORITY NUMBER THREE THAT EQUITABLE ECONOMIC GROWTH. SO SOME OF THESE CHANGES HAVE A LOT OF POTENTIAL TO SUPPORT PRIORITY THREE OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN. BUT OVERALL AND THIS IS KIND OF RUNS ON THE HEELS OF THE STREAMLINING DEVELOPMENT PROJECT WHICH WE PRESENTED TO YOU BEFORE AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION MOVED THROUGH THEIR PROCESS AND YOU ADOPTED BUT OVERALL WE JUST WANT TO TRY AND LOWER BARRIERS FOR BUSINESS FORMATION AND OPERATIONS.  THERE'S A LOT OF REASONS TO DO THAT BUT BASICALLY WE WANT TO JUST INVITE MORE PEOPLE INTO THE LOCAL BUSINESS COMMUNITY TO TRY AND REALIZE THEIR DREAMS FOR STARTING A BUSINESS IN BLOOMINGTON AND OPERATING ONE. ALL THAT HAS TO BE SAID WITH THE BALANCE OR WITH THE CONSIDERATION THAT KIND OF THE FUNDAMENTAL SUPPORT OR UNDERGIRDING ZONING IN EFFECT IS TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE.  SO AS YOU THINK ABOUT SOME OF THESE RECOMMENDED RECOMMENDATIONS TONIGHT OR SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS OR SOME OF THE FEEDBACK YOU PROVIDE, WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU KEEP THESE CONSIDERATIONS IN MIND AS WE DISCUSS THE VARIOUS EXCUSE ME OPTIONS BEFORE YOU HERE THIS EVENING.  SO HERE IS A SLIDE JUST KIND OF OUTLINING THE SUBPROJECTS THAT WE INCLUDED IN THE OVERALL PROJECT OR THE TOPIC TOPIC AREAS. WE'VE ORDERED THESE IN SUCH A WAY TO TRY AND BEGIN WITH THE ONES THAT HAVE UNANIMOUS PLANNING COMMISSION SUPPORT BEHIND THEM AS THEY REVIEWED THEM AT THEIR LAST MEETING IN DECEMBER.  IN ADDITION TO THAT, I JUST WANT TO MAKE A QUICK NOTE ABOUT HOW THE TOPIC AREAS CAME TOGETHER. ONE CAN ASK HOW DID YOU KIND OF FOCUS ON THESE MATTERS,  THESE PARTICULAR STANDARDS? AND PART OF IT WAS THE FEEDBACK THAT THE COUNCIL PROVIDED LAST JANUARY. SO THANKS FOR THAT AND BUT A BIG PART OF IT IS JUST KIND OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WE GET IN WORKING WITH BUSINESSES ON A REGULAR BASIS IN THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT SO THEY HAVE TO GET A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT APPROVALS AND PERMITS AND AS THEY BUILD OUT THEIR BUSINESSES AND OPERATE THEIR BUSINESSES. SO SOME OF THESE TOPIC AREAS COME FROM THAT FEEDBACK AS WELL AS JUST IN ADDITION JUST STAFF ANECDOTAL EXPERIENCES IN WORKING WITH BUSINESSES AS THEY GO THROUGH THE APPROVAL PROCESS.  YEAH. SO LET'S JUMP IN OVER THE LAST THING I'LL SAY ABOUT IT IS THAT IF IT'S OKAY WITH YOU MAYOR, WHAT WE WOULD SUGGEST TO DO IS TO JUST TO PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF EACH ITEM ENTERTAIN, ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE AND THEN SOLICIT THE FEEDBACK AND GUIDANCE AT EACH TOPIC IF THAT'S OKAY. THANK YOU.  SO THE FIRST ONE IS PARKING FLEXIBILITY. SO AS SOME OF YOU ARE MORE CLOSELY FAMILIAR WITH OUR PARKING REQUIREMENTS MAY KNOW WE DO HAVE A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT TOOLS WHERE YOU CAN REQUEST FLEXIBILITY TO OUR PARKING REQUIREMENTS. SO PARKING IS BECOMING INCREASINGLY HOT TOPIC IN COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT WORK CERTAINLY IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF PARKING THAT SERVES DIFFERENT BUSINESSES.  THE MAJORITY OF THE TIME THERE'S ENVIRONMENTAL COSTS TOO REQUIRING HIGH LEVELS OF PARKING. CERTAINLY THERE IS CONVENIENCE FACTORS ASSOCIATED WITH THEM BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT THERE'S A HIGH FINANCIAL OF CONSTRUCTING ADDITIONAL PARKING SO ALL OF THAT CAN TO BUSINESSES IN VARIOUS WAYS BUT THE CODE HAS SOME BUILT IN FLEXIBLE CITIES AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING SOME CHANGES TO SOME OF THE CODE LANGUAGE IN THIS FLEXIBILITY COMPONENT. SO ONE OF THEM IS ATTACHED OR CONNECTED TO THE STREAMLINING DEVELOPMENT PROJECT IN TERMS OF JUST CLARIFYING WHO THE APPROVAL AUTHORITY IS TO DELIVER SOME OF THESE PARKING FLEXIBILITIES. MOST OF THEM RIGHT NOW IDENTIFY CITY COUNCIL AS THE ONLY AUTHORITY THAT ARE THE ONLY ENTITY THAT HAS THE AUTHORITY GRANT THESE FLEXIBILITIES TO OUR PARKING REQUIREMENTS. AND SO IN LINE WITH SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT WERE MADE FOR VARIOUS APPLICATION TYPES AS PART OF THE STREAMLINING DEVELOPMENT PROJECT WE WOULD PROPOSE TO CLARIFY BY THE APPROVAL AUTHORITY ON SOME OF THOSE ELEMENTS TO EITHER THE STAFF OR THE PLANNING COMMISSION LEVEL DEPENDING ON THE SCENARIO THAT OF COURSE IF IT'S AN APPLICATION THAT THE CITY COUNCIL IS RENDERING JUDGMENT ON AND OF COURSE THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD STILL ALSO BE OR WOULD BE THE FINAL ARBITER OF THAT AS WELL. SO IT'S REALLY JUST CLARIFYING WHO HAS THE AUTHORITY TO APPROVE SOME OF THESE VARIOUS FLEXIBILITY MEASURES, THE NEW FLEXIBILITY MEASURE THAT WE WOULD PROPOSE HAS TO DO WITH COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS THAT ARE 10,000 SQUARE FEET OR LESS. AND REALLY WHAT IT'S AIMED TO DO IS TO TRY AND MINIMIZE PERIODS OF PROLONGED VACANCY AT SOME OF OUR COMMERCIAL OR INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS THAT SOMETIMES ARE DIFFICULT TO REUSE EXCEPT FOR IN THE SAME WAY THAT AN EXISTING BUSINESS THAT JUST VACATED SO IF IT WAS IF IT WAS OCCUPIED BY AN OFFICE IN A WAREHOUSE IT PRETTY MUCH HAS TO BE AN OFFICER IN A WAREHOUSE.  OTHERWISE A NEW BUSINESS CANNOT BE LOCATED JUST SIMPLY ON THE BASIS OF NOT MEETING OUR PARKING REQUIREMENTS.  SO WE HAVE A LOT OF COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS THAT ARE BUILT IN THE SEVENTIES,  EIGHTIES, SIXTIES IN SOME CASES THAT HAVE MORE LIMITED PARKING SUPPLIES ASSOCIATED WITH THEM. SO WITH THIS FLEXIBILITY MEASURE WOULD PROPOSED TO DO WOULD TO OFFER A 25% REDUCTION IN THEIR PARKING REQUIREMENT JUST FOR CONSTRAINED AND WHERE THE CITY ENGINEER WOULD DEEM THERE NO TRAFFIC SAFETY CONCERN SO THE WHY 10,000 AND THE WHY 25% IT MAY SEEM SOMEWHAT ODD OR COMICAL AT TIMES BUT A FEW PARKING STALLS IN A WAY HAVE BEEN THE DIFFERENCE FOR SOME BUSINESSES TO SAY YOU KNOW WHAT, I DON'T MAKE CODE . I'M NOT GOING TO PURSUE PURSUE THIS PARTICULAR SITE BECAUSE IT'S JUST NOT WORKING OUT FROM A COMPLIANCE PERSPECTIVE AND PURSUING SOME OF THE FLEX OTHER FLEXIBILITY MEASURES TENDS TO BE A LITTLE INVOLVE A COSTLY OR DIFFICULT APPROVAL PROCESS. IS THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR CITY COUNCIL?  SO WE'RE PROPOSING THIS AS A BASE RATE REDUCTION.  THE PLANNING COMMISSION UNANIMOUSLY IS SUPPORTIVE THESE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT STAFF PUT FORWARD. I WOULD ALSO NOTE THAT ONE OF THE RECOMMENDED PROJECTS ON THE 2025 PLANNING COMMISSION WORK PLAN IS TO REEVALUATE OUR OFF STREET PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR A VARIETY OF COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL USES.  SO THIS IS CERTAINLY A SUBJECT MATTER THAT WE COULD REVISITING AS PART OF THAT. SO WITH THAT I'LL PAUSE AND IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS ONE OR GUIDANCE THAT YOU'D LIKE TO PROVIDE, I'M HAPPY TO RECEIVE THAT. THANK YOU, MR. JOHNSON. AND I WOULD POINT OUT TO THE COUNCIL ALSO ON PAGE ONE OR FIVE IN THE COUNCIL PACKET IT JUST GIVES THE KIND OF A SYNOPSIS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. SO THE PLANNING COMMISSION GAVE THEIR FULL TO THIS ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS COUNCIL OR ANY COMMENTS CAN I GET A GENERAL THUMBS UP ON ALL OF IT OR GENERAL THUMBS UP?  COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO THANKS MR. MAYOR. SO THIS IS IT INDICATES COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL BUILT INDUSTRIAL BUILDING. SO JUST MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR THIS IS NOT IMPACTING IN ANY WAY ANY OF THE MULTI-USE LIKE A MULTI FAMILY LIKE APARTMENT COMPLEXES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. RIGHT. THIS IS SPECIFICALLY FOR THOSE IN AMERICA ALSO EL CENTRO. THAT'S CORRECT. A COUPLE OF REASONS.  WELL, I CAN JUST THAT'S CORRECT. IT'S PERFECT. THAT'S ALL I NEEDED.  YEAH. THANK YOU. YEAH, AND IT'S PERFECT. ALL RIGHT, SO WE GOT THUMBS UP ON THAT.  THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO MOVING ON. APPRECIATE THAT. AND JUST TO CONFIRM THAT THAT'S AFFIRMATIVE. SO THE NEXT ONE AND THESE WE'LL START SOME OF THE WHAT I FEEL ARE THE EASIER ONES BUT ROOFTOP EQUIPMENT SCREENING SO THIS IS AN AREA DEPENDING ON THE BUSINESS TYPE IF THEY'RE ADDING ADDITIONAL MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT WHICH IS ESSENTIAL FOR OF SOME TYPES OF BUSINESSES, IT CAN BE QUITE COSTLY TO SCREEN SOME OF THIS EQUIPMENT IT IS VALUABLE FROM AN ESTHETIC PERSPECTIVE PARTICULARLY IN AREAS THAT ARE VISIBLE ALONG PUBLIC RIGHTS AWAY TRYING TO PROTECT AGAIN THAT THE GENERAL WELFARE BUT THERE WAS KIND OF A PROBLEM IN OUR ORDINANCE AND SO AS THAT IT DID NOT SPECIFY THAT IT'S TIED TO GROUND LEVEL OBSERVATION FROM PUBLIC STREETS AND SIDEWALKS AND SO A STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND JUST CREATING THAT CLARIFICATION OR INSERTING THAT CLARIFICATION INTO THE CODE . CERTAINLY EQUIPMENT THAT IS VISIBLE FROM TALLER STORIES BUILDINGS IS VERY DIFFICULT TO SCREEN IN SUCH A WAY TO IT COMPLETELY INVISIBLE OR BLEND INTO THE BUILDING SO AND THAT'S QUITE COSTLY TO DO MAYBE MORE SO THE ISSUE IS THAT THE SIDES AND READERS OF A SITE OF A BUILDING NOT SCREENING THOSE PORTIONS BECAUSE TEND THOSE TEND TO NOT BE VISIBLE FROM THE PUBLIC WAY AND.  THAT'S WHAT WE'RE FOCUSED ON AS THE PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY. ONE OTHER COMPONENT OF THIS IS THAT THIS HAS COME UP A COUPLE A COUPLE OF TIMES AT SOME OF OUR INDUSTRIAL USES WHERE THEY HAVE EXHAUST PIPES AND THEN STEPH HAS THIS FUNNY INTERPRETATION EXERCISE OR GET IN A CIRCLE AND WE SAY DOES THIS REQUIRE SCREENING AND OBVIOUSLY THE TALLER AND EXHAUST PIPE GETS THE MORE DIFFICULT OR IMPRACTICAL IT IS TO SCREEN IT.  SO WE'VE INTERPRETED THAT NOT TO TRIGGER THE REQUIREMENT BUT BEST TO JUST INSERT THIS INTO THE LANGUAGE TO MAKE IT MORE CLEAR. SO WHEN PLANNING COMMISSION DID AFFIRMATIVELY OR I SHOULD SAY UNANIMOUSLY SUPPORT THIS RECOMMENDATION AS WELL VERY GOOD COUNCIL THOUGHTS ON THIS COUNCILMEMBER NELSON YEAH. THANK THANK YOU, MA'AM. JUST QUICK QUESTION WITH REGARDS TO THE PUBLIC AWAY, WAS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION OF FROM RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES UNDERSTAND YOU CAN'T SCREEN FROM A MULTISTORY BUILDING BUT I THINK ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE ROUTINELY HEAR IS JUST FROM A RESIDENTS THEIR LIVING ROOM OR BEDROOM OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAVING TO LOOK OUT AT IT AND ALSO DOES THIS IMPACT NOISE AS I SAY SECONDARY OKAY. YEAH COUNCILMAN NELSON SO WE DID REVIEW I THINK IT WAS FOR ALL OF THESE ITEMS WE USED A PRETTY CONSISTENT LIST OF PEER COMMUNITIES THAT WE REVIEWED BECAUSE WE WANTED TO BE TRYING TO DRAW APPLES TO APPLES AS MUCH AS WE COULD.  THERE ARE A FEW CITIES THAT THEY HAVE ALL DIFFERENT TRIGGERS IN TERMS OF WHERE THE EQUIPMENT IS VISIBLE FROM VISIBLE FROM MOST OF THEM DO IT FROM PUBLIC RIGHTS OF WAY BECAUSE IN EFFECT THAT'S WHAT THE CODE IS ATTEMPTING PROTECT AGAINST. BUT A COUPLE OF THEM DO NOTE SENSITIVITY TO RESIDENTIAL USES AS WELL.  I WOULD SAY THAT THAT'S MORE IN THE THE SMALLER GROUPING OF CITIES THAT DO THAT VERSUS THE LARGER WITH RESPECT TO NOISE I MEAN YEAH WE DEFINITELY GET SOMETIMES WE GET INQUIRIES ABOUT MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT NOISE AND SIMILAR TO OTHER NOISE GENERATING EQUIPMENT AND IF YOU RECALL DURING THE DATA CENTER PROCESS WE DID ADOPT SOME NOISE RELATED PROVISIONS RELATED TO MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT IN TERMS OF GEAR SPACING THAT OR LOCATING IT AS FAR AWAY ON A SITE AS POSSIBLE. SO IT'S NOT A COMMON COMPLAINT BUT WE DO HAVE MECHANISMS IN THE CODE TO DEAL WITH IT TYPICALLY COUNSEL ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS CAN WE GIVE IT A GENERAL THUMBS UP THUMBS UP.  THANK YOU MAYOR AND MEMBERS. I'LL KEEP GOING ON. SO THIS NEXT ONE IS GREASE INTERCEPTION. SO FRANKLY THIS IS ONE OF THESE I'LL THIS IS THE AN ITEM WITHIN THIS PROJECT WE ACTUALLY HAVE THE LEAST AMOUNT OF DISCRETION AROUND AND THE REASON BEING IS THAT THERE ARE BOTH FEDERAL AND REGIONAL REGULATIONS AROUND DEPLOYING GREASER EXPELLING GREASE OR OTHER CONTAMINANTS INTO THE INTO THE WASTEWATER SYSTEM THERE ALSO IN SOME CASES WHERE GREASE HAS NOT BEEN PROPERLY HANDLED AT SOME BUSINESSES OR OTHER USES THERE HAS BEEN SOME COST TO THE PUBLIC IN TERMS OF FIXING SOME OF THOSE PROBLEMS THAT HAVE OCCURRED AS PART OF THE SANITARY SEWER SYSTEM.  SO ON THE BASIS OF THOSE THE FEDERAL EPA REGULATIONS AS WELL AS THE MET COUNCIL AROUND HANDLING GREASE THIS ONE IS I THINK HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH IT NOT CAN DEAL WITH IT OR NOT TYPE SITUATION AND THAT'S NOT TO SUGGEST THAT THAT WAS LIKE ON THE TABLE OR ONE OF THE PROPOSALS THAT WAS BEING DISCUSSED BUT SUFFICE TO SAY IS THAT THIS IS ONE THAT IS MORE FEDERALLY REGULATED AND REGIONALLY REGULATED BY MET WHO DOES REGIONAL WASTEWATER. SO ON THE BASIS OF THAT I THINK WHERE SOME CHANGE OR SOME YOU KNOW ADDITIONAL REFINEMENT AND IN HOW THESE POLICIES ARE EXECUTED IT HAS TO DO WITH REALLY IT HAS TO DO ON THAT ONE ON ONE CONVERSATION WITH THE BUSINESS OWNER IN TERMS OF WHAT THEIR OPTIONS ARE TRADITIONALLY THE CITY HAS STARTED OUT THE THOUSAND GALLON EXTERNAL GREASE INTERCEPTOR AND THE REASON BEING IS THAT THAT IS AN INDUSTRY ACCEPTED BEST PRACTICE IN DOING THAT IT ALLOWS CITY UTILITY STAFF TO INTERVENE OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING IF NECESSARY TO ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE THINGS.  THE DOWNSIDE OF THAT APPROACH IS THAT THAT TYPICALLY THE GREATEST AMOUNT OF COST AND EXPENSE TO THE BUSINESS AND SO SINCE EVEN OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS UTILITY STAFF AND PUBLIC WORKS STAFF HAVE BEEN MORE INTENTIONAL WORKING WITH VARIOUS PARTIES ABOUT ALTERNATIVE SOLUTIONS WHEN THE OPERATIONS OF THE BUSINESS CAN WARRANT A SMALLER OR COST EFFECTIVE SOLUTION. AND THIS IS ALSO ANOTHER AREA WHERE TECHNOLOGY IS ACTUALLY WORKING IN THE CITY'S FAVOR AND THE BUSINESSES FAVOR BECAUSE IT'S COMING UP WITH SMALLER AND MORE COST EFFECTIVE SOLUTIONS AS TIME ON SO THE UTILITY SUPERINTENDENT CAN APPROVE ALTERNATIVE SYSTEMS TO THIS THOUSAND GALLON EXTERIOR SOLUTION REALLY WHAT THIS PROJECT CALLS FOR IS JUST CONTINUED AWARENESS AND EDUCATION AND ACCOUNTABILITY ON THE STAFF AND TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH PEOPLE ON A ONE ON ONE BASIS AS THEY NEED TO AND JUST CONTINUE PARTNERSHIP.  THERE IS SOME HANDOUTS THAT WE HAVE THAT WE CAN MAKE YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY MORE ACCESSIBLE OR PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FOR PEOPLE. SO THAT ALSO IS SOMETHING LOOKING AT AS WELL OUR PUBLIC WORKS PARTNERS BUT THIS ONE IN ITSELF DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR ANY CHANGES.  THE CODE ON THE BASIS OF THE FEDERAL AND MET COUNCIL REGULATIONS SO I'M HAPPY TO STAY ON FOR ANY QUESTIONS COUNCIL QUESTIONS ON THIS.  COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.  SO SO I GUESS THE MAIN I HAVE IS IF WE KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THE THAT THE 1000 GALLON EXTERNAL GREASE INTERCEPTOR WELL A CITY AND AN INDUSTRY BEST PRACTICE IS ALSO NUMBER ONE AN ECONOMIC BURDEN BUT ALSO UH YEAH, MAYBE HOW I WOULD SAY IT AN AN OVER ENGINEERING FOR A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT KINDS OF BUSINESSES. MY QUESTION WOULD BE WHY ISN'T OUR REGULATION DOING WHAT WE WANT THE OUTCOME TO BE WHICH IS THAT FOR THE AMOUNT OF GREASE YOU'RE GOING TO GENERATE YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO STORE THIS AMOUNT BEFORE YOU HAVE TO CLEAN IT OUT KIND OF THING. RIGHT? AND IT'S ALMOST FORMULAIC AS OPPOSED TO THIS STATUTE THIS YOU KNOW, MECHANISM.  I'M JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE WHEN I HAVE HEARD FROM FOLKS THAT ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT THIS THE BIGGEST I'VE BEEN TOLD IS IS WELL, THERE'S TWO THINGS. ONE THAT THIS IS WAY MORE THAN THEY'LL EVER NEED, RIGHT? PIZZA SHOP, FOR EXAMPLE, DOESN'T NEED A THOUSAND GALLON GREASE. IT JUST DOESN'T IT DOESN'T CREATE THAT MUCH GREASE. IT DOESN'T DO THAT IT'S NEVER GOING TO DO THAT. AND SECONDLY, THAT DEPENDING UPON WHO WE TALK TO IN THE CITY THE AND IS A YOU'RE ADDRESSING THIS WITH THE FLEXIBILITY QUESTION AND THE EDUCATION QUESTION BUT LIKE DEPENDING ON WHO THEY TALK TO IT WAS THAT OR NOTHING OR SOMETIMES THEY WOULD GET A BREAK OR SOMETIMES THEY COULD GET AN ALTERNATIVE SOLUTION ETC. ETC. AND SO THE THE CONSISTENCY OF THE MESSAGE OUT OF OUT OF OUT OF THE CITY I THINK IS A VERY VALUABLE PIECE OF THIS. I'M GLAD YOU'RE BRINGING IT UP . I APPRECIATE THAT. THE QUESTION I WOULD ASK IS WHY WHY ARE WE ENFORCING A SPECIFIC CONSTRUCT SIZE AND PLACEMENT WHEN THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY WHAT'S GOING TO CREATE THE OUTCOME WE'RE LOOKING FOR WHICH IS MAKE SURE CAN CONTROL YOUR GREASE. RIGHT. SO THAT'S MY THAT'S MY OVERARCHING QUESTION ON THIS AND BECAUSE I THINK WE CAN DO BETTER THAN THAN THIS IN IN MY HUMBLE OPINION I GUESS THEN I THINK THANK YOU MAYOR. I'LL INVITE SCOTT ANDERSON TO TO IT IS THE UTILITY SUPERINTENDENT BUT ONE THING I'LL SAY JUST IN WORKING WITH ENGINEERING AND PUBLIC WORKS FOR A WHILE NOW IS THAT I THINK THOSE INDIVIDUAL CUSTOMER CONVERSATIONS DO HAPPEN AND TRYING TO BE AMENABLE TO FINDING THE SOLUTION NUMBER ONE. BUT ONE OF THE OTHER CHALLENGES WE HAVE AS RELATES TO A WHOLE VARIETY OF DIFFERENT PLANNING AND ZONING ISSUES AS WELL SO YOU CAN HAVE TWO RESTAURANTS AND IN THE CODE IT'S JUST RESTAURANT THAT'S THE USE BUT THEY OPERATE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT NIGHT AND DAY, DIFFERENT MENUS, DIFFERENT OPERATIONAL CHARACTERISTICS AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT FROM AN INFRASTRUCTURE PERSPECTIVE THEY TRIED TO PLAN AND GAME OUT IS HAVING THE CORRECT EQUIPMENT THAT CAN SUSTAIN THE USE FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIME THROUGH MULTIPLE DIFFERENT OPERATORS.  I WILL CERTAINLY INVITE HIM UP AND ALLOW HIM TO SPEAK FOR HIMSELF OR THE UNIT RATHER. SCOTT IF YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING. GOOD EVENING SIR. GOOD EVENING.  COUNCIL MEMBERS CUSTOMER DALLESSANDRO JUST A QUICK POINT OF OF CLARITY AND I WOULD AGREE WITH WITH NICK THE THE I THINK THAT THAT THOUSAND GALLON PIECE IS IS NOT NECESSARILY THE STANDARD AS MUCH AS IT IS THAT BEST PRACTICE DESIGNED TO MEET WHAT SPECIFICALLY IS IN CODE IS THAT EFFLUENT LIMITATION OF 100 MILLIGRAMS PER LITER AND SO THERE ARE MULTIPLE WAYS TO TO GO ABOUT THERE YOU COULD SAY WELL WE'RE GOING TO INSTALL A GREASE INTERCEPTOR BUT THEN WE'LL MONITOR OUR EFFLUENT ON A MONTHLY OR A REGULAR BASIS TO DEMONSTRATE THAT WE'RE THAT COMPLIANT. I MEAN WE COULD CERTAINLY ATTEMPT TO GO DOWN THAT PATH.  WE'RE NOT CURRENTLY STAFFED OR EQUIPPED TO TO BE ABLE TO PERFORM THAT TYPE OF MONITORING IN THAT TESTING ON ANY TYPE OF REGULAR BASIS ON A SCALE ON A CITYWIDE SCALE. AND SO AS NICK POINTED OUT THAT THAT THOUSAND GALLON EXTERNAL SET UP IS IS IS THAT THAT BNP THAT BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICE WAS DESIGNED WITH THAT WAS DESIGNED BY THE INDUSTRY TO TO MEET THAT EFFLUENT HAVING IT LOCATED EXTERNALLY PREVENTS A LOT OF THE HEALTH RELATED ISSUES IN TERMS TRYING TO CLEAN THAT IN A FACILITY AS OPPOSED TO OUTSIDE THEY HAVE THEY HAVE HISTORICALLY PERFORMED ON A FAIRLY RELIABLE AND A FAIRLY RELIABLE BASIS BUT AS NICK POINTED OUT WE HAVE FOR QUITE A WHILE BEEN OPEN TO DISCUSSIONS ON DEPENDING ON AN INDIVIDUAL'S USE  OR PRACTICE ALTERNATIVE MECHANISMS TO TO MECHANICALLY SEPARATE THAT GREASE PRIOR TO DISCHARGE TO THE SYSTEM. SO APPRECIATE THE ANSWER AND I AND I, I HAVE FULL FAITH THAT THAT'S THE CASE. THE FEEDBACK I'VE RECEIVED OVER LAST TWO YEARS HAS BEEN THAT, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON WHO FOLKS TALK TO THEY GET A DIFFERENT STORY, RIGHT? SOME FOLKS WOULD GET A THAT'S IT OR NOTHING AND SOME PEOPLE WOULD GET THE AMENABILITY. SO I THINK TO YOUR MR. MAYOR,  YOU KNOW, I GUESS MY POINT IS IF WE DON'T DO ANYTHING DIFFERENT THAN I WOULD LIKE TO POTENTIALLY SEE IS A KIND SOME MONITORING AND SOME FEEDBACK ON HOW WE'RE DOING BETTER ABOUT BEING AMENABLE SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE WE GET FEEDBACK FROM FOLKS WHO ARE BUILDING OUT THESE BUSINESSES IN THE COMING YEAR OR TWO TO HEAR THAT THAT'S GOING MUCH MORE SMOOTHLY THAN IT HAS BEEN MY EXPERIENCE WITH THOSE FOLKS IN THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.  YOU DON'T REMEMBER AND I THINK I THINK THAT MAKES GOOD SENSE ESPECIALLY WITH THE SECOND BULLET POINT OF IMPROVED EDUCATION OF THE SITUATION I THINK ON BOTH SIDES TO IMPROVE THE EDUCATION THROUGH THE KNOWLEDGE AND THE DISCUSSION AND SO I THINK I WOULD HOPE THAT STAFF WOULD BE OKAY WITH THAT AND MAYBE WHETHER WE DO IT FORMALLY OR INFORMALLY TRY AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE A FEEDBACK LOOP IN SOME WAY THAT MAKES SURE THAT THAT ASSURES THAT FOLKS WHO ARE FACING THIS 1000 GALLON GREASE INTERCEPTOR ARE ABLE TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AND IF THERE ARE OTHER ALTERNATIVES AVAILABLE, IT MAKES SENSE AND I'LL MAKE A COMMENT AT THE END OF THIS IF I CAN AFTER BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM ABOUT IF I CAN HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME IT'S A BROAD COMMENT ON THIS AREA ABOUT WHAT OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ORGANIZATION CAN DO TO HELP HERE. OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON WITH A QUESTION. YEAH, THANKS, MAYOR. JUST A QUICK FOLLOW UP TO COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO.  IS IT POSSIBLE TO MONITOR THE I THINK THE TERM USE WAS EFFLUENT, YOU KNOW BECAUSE I KNOW IN AREAS WE MONITOR AS AN EXAMPLE STORMWATER AND YOU KNOW AN ENGINEER GIVES US A REPORT ABOUT THE QUANTITY THE RATE AND SOME THIRD PART OF IT THAT I DON'T RECALL THE TIME AHEAD. IS IT POSSIBLE TO DO THAT WITH REGARDS TO THIS SO THAT SOMEONE COULD COME IN AND SAY HERE'S THE MODELING AND THEN I ASSUME THERE'S YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE TO MONITOR EVERY SINGLE THING WE CAN MONITOR WHEN THERE'S A PROBLEM SIMILAR TO STORMWATER MAYOR COUNCILMEMBERS CATALANO NELSON I THINK THE THE CHAIRMAN WE CAN WE CAN CERTAINLY INVESTIGATE OTHER AVENUES TO TO TRY TO GET A CLEARER PICTURE ON ON SOURCE AND RESULT. I THINK THE CHALLENGES WHERE YOU'RE IF YOU'RE MONITORING A SEWER SEWER SHED FOR EXAMPLE WHERE DID THAT THAT GREASE OR YOU KNOW THE FATS AND OILS ARE ORIGINATE FROM SO YOU'RE ALMOST TALKING ABOUT A PER PREMISES MONITORING SYSTEM AND AGAIN I'M INTIMATELY FAMILIAR WITH WHAT THOSE SYSTEMS LOOK LIKE, WHAT THE COSTS ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THEM, HOW YOU KNOW HOW THAT MONITORING IS IS PERFORMED THAT'S OUTSIDE OUTSIDE OF OF THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE. I CAN TELL YOU FROM A VERY CRUDE LEVEL WE HAVE YOU KNOW, THE CITY CLEANS THE PUBLIC SEWER SYSTEM ON A ON A REGULAR BASIS AND HAS DIFFERENT FREQUENCIES FOR DIFFERENT MATERIALS OF PIPES AND FOR DIFFERENT AREAS. AND SO FOR THESE AREAS WHERE FATS OILS INCREASES THE WHERE THOSE BECOME APPARENT, WE'RE CLEANING THOSE SEWERS FOR TIMES ANNUALLY WHEREAS THE NEXT MOST FREQUENT CLEANING SYSTEM AND THE NEXT MOST FREQUENT CLEANING SCHEDULE APPLIES TO THE ALL THE SYSTEM IN TOWN AND THAT'S ONCE EVERY 18 MONTHS. SO AND AT A COST AT A PER ASSET COST OF ABOUT $95 VERSUS ABOUT $250 FOR AT LEAST QUARTERLY CLEAN AREAS PER YEAR PER ASSET SO REPRESENTS ABOUT 18% OF OUR TOTAL SEWER CLEANING COSTS TO THESE WHAT WE CALL QUARTERLY CLEANING AREAS.  YOU KNOW WE DO TELEVISE THE SANITARY SEWER SYSTEM SO WE GET AN IDEA OF WHERE THESE THINGS ARE OCCURRING. THAT'S HOW THE QUARTERLY CLEAN AREAS WERE ORIGINALLY DEVELOPED BUT THAT'S KIND OF THE THE THE EXTENT OF OUR MONITORING KNOWLEDGE AT THIS POINT. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON, THANK YOU FOR THE DETAILED INFORMATION. THAT'S ALWAYS IMPRESSIVE. HOW DO YOU GUYS KNOW ALL THIS STUFF? IT IS THE ONE THING THAT I WOULD SAY IS I THINK SOME RESTAURANTS MAY BE OPEN TO LIKE IN TERMS OF THEIR LICENSING AND THINGS LIKE THAT PAYING THE FEE TO CLEAN THAT TO AVOID THE COST OF THE GREASE INTERCEPTOR OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE. SO IF THEY ARE PUTTING A BURDEN I'M ALWAYS LIKE LOOK BUSINESSES SHOULD PAY THEIR COSTS FOR.  SURE. BUT MAYBE THERE'S A LOWER WAY TO DO THAT JUST.  I JUST ASK YOU GUYS TO KEEP AN OPEN MIND ON THIS ONE IF THERE IS A DIFFERENT WAY TO LOOK AT THINGS. ABSOLUTELY.  ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS ON THIS COUNCILMEMBER?  COUNCILMEMBER CARTER. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND. SO IN CODE IT IS NOT THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE THIS THOUSAND GALLON EXTERNAL GREASE INTERCEPTOR. IT IS THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE A GREASE INTERCEPTOR AND THAT THE THOUSAND GALLON HAS BEEN KIND OF A STANDARD BEST PRACTICE IN THE FIELD. BUT YOU YOUR TEAM IS OPEN TO WORKING WITH BUSINESSES TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS THE APPROPRIATE SIZE. WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE. AND THEN IMPROVING EDUCATIONAL MATERIALS, CORRECT? ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. OKAY. I MEAN I FOR ONE FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THAT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT STIPULATING THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE A THOUSAND GALLON EXTERNAL GREASE INTERCEPTOR. WE'RE SAYING THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE ONE AND AS LONG AS STAFF ARE WORKING WITH THEM TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS THE MOST APPROPRIATE AND THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO ME. I ALSO AND I THINK COUNCILMAN ALSO I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD YOUR SUGGESTION SO THEY DID NOT HAVE TO HAVE AN INTERCEPTOR THEY JUST.  OKAY. OKAY. THAT'S A CONVERSATION FOR A MICROPHONE, PLEASE. IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE ALREADY CLEANING THOSE MORE OFTEN THAN OTHER PLACES AND THAT'S A COST TO THE CITY. AND I'M JUST WONDERING, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S SOME TYPE OF AS YOU LOOK AT THE WHOLE SYSTEM TO AS YOU AS WE WORK TO MINIMIZE THE COST ON THE UP FRONT TO PUT THE RIGHT SIZED SYSTEM IN THERE, IT SEEMS LIKE WE'LL STILL HAVE SOME CLEANING TO DO.  IT MAY JUST INSTEAD OF SPENDING $20,000 I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY COST BUT YOU KNOW SPENDING $200 ON A CLEANING GUY IT MIGHT BE A TRADEOFF WORTH LOOKING AT BUT CERTAINLY I'M NOT SAYING JUST DUMP THE GREASE INTO THEM. YEAH, YEAH.  MY KID I'VE DONE THAT IN MY KITCHEN AND THAT'S NOT AN IDEAL SITUATION. YES.  ANYTHING ELSE? COUNCIL COUNCILMEMBER.  THANK YOU, MAYOR. AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE CONVERSATION AND SOMETHING JUST POPPED IN MY HEAD WHAT DO WE DO WHEN BUSINESSES CHANGE?  AND WE APPROVED A SMALLER VESSEL FOR A PIZZA JOINT AND THEN A FRIED CHICKEN JOINT GOES INTO THAT BUILDING AFTER THE PIZZA JOINT CHANGES. SO HOW DO WE HANDLE THAT PROCESS?  MAYOR COUNCILMEMBERS GOT TO REMEMBER I DON'T I DON'T KNOW THAT I RECALL ENCOUNTERING OH AN EXAMPLE LIKE THAT ONE I THINK I THINK TYPICALLY WE WOULD BE LOOKING FOR THOSE CALCULATIONS THAT SHOW WHAT THOSE REMOVALS ARE WHENEVER WHENEVER USE CHANGES.  BUT I THINK GENERALLY SPEAKING THE FACT THAT THERE WOULD THERE WOULD BE SOMETHING PRESENT IS A HUGE WIN BECAUSE THERE JUST AREN'T A OF THEM OUT THERE. I MEAN IF I CAN ADD ANY SHED ANY ADDITIONAL LIGHT AND THANKS TO SCOTT HE'S BEEN THROWN INTO THE SPOTLIGHT HERE WITH LESS THAN ADEQUATE ON MY PART BUT I'VE BEEN COLLABORATING WITH THE ENGINEER AND UTILITIES OTHER UTILITY STAFF WHO'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS ISSUE.  BUT TYPICALLY THERE HAS TO BE INVOLVED SOME TYPE OF TRIGGER RIGHT?  AND SO THE TRIGGER TYPICALLY IS SOME TYPE OF COMPLETE KITCHEN REBUILD OR BUILD OUT THAT INVOLVES DISRUPTION TO THE UTILITIES IN THE SERVICE IF IT'S JUST A SIMPLE SWAP WITH LIMITED CHANGES IN EQUIPMENT IT MIGHT NOT WARRANT THE ADDITIONAL INTERVENTION ON THIS PART. SO IT'S ONE OF THOSE AREAS WHERE STAFF PROBABLY ESTIMATE HAS TO MAKE A PROFESSIONAL JUDGMENT ON HOW TO HANDLE IT.  THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO,  REALLY, REALLY QUICKLY, MR. MAYOR, JUST TO ADD SOME COLOR TO THAT AT LEAST FOR MY KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE WITH WITH SOME WITH SOME FOLKS PERMITTED USE KIND OF SWAPS REALLY FAST. AND SO IF IT'S A RESTAURANT AND IT GOES TO BE ANOTHER RESTAURANT, THERE'S A LOT LESS THAT'S DONE THAN IF A CONDITIONAL PERMIT IS TRIGGERED OR IF A BRAND NEW BUILDING IS BUILT. AND SO PART OF THAT DISCRETION AT STAFF LEVEL AND PART OF THE DISPARITY IN THE TREATMENT, THE LACK OF CONSISTENCY IN THE TREATMENT THAT I'VE BEEN MADE AWARE OF THROUGH THROUGH CONSTITUENT DISCUSSIONS HAS BEEN THAT DEPENDING ON WHICH INSPECTOR YOU GET IT GOES WELL OR IT DOESN'T GO WELL OR WHATEVER BASED ON THESE THINGS. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS I'M TRYING TO GET SOME SPECIFICITY AND CLARITY ABOUT WHAT IT REALLY WHAT REALLY WE REALLY CARE ABOUT.  BECAUSE TO YOUR POINT IF THERE WAS AN EFFLUENT RATE AND AND IT WAS A SMALLER RESTAURANT AND YOU MOVED TO A BIGGER LIKE BIGGER GREASY THING, RIGHT? YOU WOULD YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO CALL IT BASED ON THE EFFLUENT RATE METERING AND SAY OKAY YOU NEED TO UPGRADE BUT THAT WON'T HAPPEN TODAY BASED ON THE WAY WE DO IT. AS A POINT OF SPECIFICITY.  MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WHERE THERE WAS A THERE WAS A FAMOUS DAVE'S THAT BECAME A NAME NORTH STAR.  CORRECT. AM I RIGHT ABOUT THAT? YEAH. NEVER HAD TO CHANGE A THING.  THEY DIDN'T HAVE A HOOD. FAMOUS DAVE'S THE GREATEST THING YOU CAN THINK OF DID NOT HAVE A HOOD AND NORTHSTAR WAS FORCED TO PUT IN A HOOD BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT WENT. NOW WHY DIDN'T IT HAVE A HOOD AND NOW IT DOES HAVE TO HAVE A HAVE A HOOD WHEN.  IT WAS A COMPLETELY PERMITTED USE. COMPLETELY RANDOM AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND THERE'S NOTHING IN CODE. IT WAS RIDDICK RELATED TO THE INSPECTORS THAT WERE INVOLVED IN THE DECISIONS THAT THEY WERE MAKING. SO SO MY POINT IS THAT THERE'S THESE ANECDOTES THERE AND I'M JUST TRYING TO GET TO A POINT OF OF CLARITY WHERE WE COULD BE WE COULD GUARANTEE THAT WE HAVE A CONSISTENT PROCESS FOR FOLKS NO MATTER WHAT KIND OF RESTAURANT OR OTHER, YOU KNOW, FACILITY THEY'RE TRYING TO BUILD. YEAH. THANKS. THANK YOU.  COUNCILMEMBER LEMON. I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO GET INTO THE GREASE TRAP, SO I'LL DO TONIGHT.  SO IT'S INTERESTING.  SO IN TERMS OF MAYBE THIS IS THE WRONG GROUP OF PEOPLE TO ASK BUT WHEN WHEN WHEN FOLKS ARE GOING FROM RESTAURANT TO RESTAURANT OR BUSINESS TO BUSINESS, IS THERE ANY STANDARD THAT THEY'RE USING? AND I KNOW I'M KIND OF TAKING THE TONE AND DIPPING IT ON THE MORE ADMINISTRATIVE OF THE HOUSE BUT I'M JUST IT'S MORE FOR CURIOSITY SAKE I'M INTERESTED IN THAT GIVEN WHAT MY COLLEAGUES HAVE ASKED UP HERE, HOW IS THAT KIND OF DONE? IS THAT IS IT KIND OF AT THE DISCRETION OF THE OF THE EMPLOYEES?  IT'S KIND OF GOING IN KIND OF LOOKING AT THESE THESE YOU KNOW THESE OR DOES IT IS IT IS IT DRIVEN BY SOMETHING YOU UNDERSTAND HOW THAT THAT PROCESS OPERATES AND WORKS?  YEAH. I MEAN I CERTAINLY AM BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT A LOT OF THINGS NOT PERTAINING SPECIFIC TO GREECE BUT ARE VERY STRONG COMPARISONS TO THIS TYPE OF SITUATION AND TO CUSTOMER RESULTS AND ROSE COMMENTS ABOUT HOW THINGS CAN GO DIFFERENTLY AT TWO DIFFERENT ESTABLISHMENTS SOMETIMES THE THE DETAIL OF EXACTLY THE TYPES OF EQUIPMENT THAT ARE BEING SWAPPED IN AND SWAPPED ARE SO GRANULAR THAT IT ACTUALLY RESULTS A DIFFERENT REQUIREMENT OR A DIFFERENT PROFESSIONAL INTERPRETATION IN TERMS OF WHAT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO TO DEAL WITH A PARTICULAR ISSUE. SO YOU KNOW, ODOR MITIGATION, SIMILAR ISSUE ON A LOT OF THOSE TYPES OF RESTAURANTS IS WHAT LEVEL OF NEW TENANT OR NEW EQUIPMENT TRIGGERS ODOR CONTROL AND WE TRIED TO WRITE THOSE THINGS INTO THE CODE SO THAT IT IS VERY CLEAR IN TERMS OF WHAT THE TRIGGERS ARE. BUT SO MUCH OF THIS EQUIPMENT IS IS SO DIFFERENT AND ROBUST THAT IT'S HARD TO JUST CONSIDER EVERY DIFFERENT SINGLE MINUTE SCENARIO WITHIN THE CITY CODE AS A PERTAINS TO THE OPERATION OF YOU KNOW THE UTILITY DESIGN FOLKS AND THE UTILITY ENGINEERS AND INSPECTORS WHO ARE GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND TYPICALLY THEY'RE ACTUALLY WORKING WITH ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH STAFF MORE SO ON THE RESTAURANT BUILD OUTS INSIDE THE BUILDING. UTILITY STAFF TYPICALLY BE MORE INVOLVED IN PLAN REVIEW IF THERE WAS AN EXTERNAL SERVICE LINE PROJECT ASSOCIATED WITH THE BUSINESS WOULD BE MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT'S CORRECT AND I THINK TO TO CONSIDER DALLESSANDRO THE EARLIER POINT THERE THERE IS AN EFFLUENT STANDARD THERE IS A NUMBER IN CODE THAT THAT IF AND I'VE HAD FEW NOT MANY DISCUSSIONS WITH APPLICANTS IF YOU WANT TO DEMONSTRATE THAT YOUR EFFLUENT IS MEETING STANDARD ON SOME TYPE OF REGULAR ONGOING PERPETUAL SCHEDULE, YOU KNOW WE'RE OPEN TO THAT KNOWING THAT IF THAT IF THAT EFFLUENT EXCEEDED NOW YOU'RE COMING BACK AND YOU'RE RETROFITTING THAT PRACTICE IN PLACE YOU KNOW AT THAT TIME AND I THINK THAT HAS TYPICALLY BEEN UNATTRACTIVE TO THE MOST OR TO THE FEW THAT THE FEW TIMES THAT THAT HAS ACTUALLY COME UP BUT CERTAINLY AS IS AS AS NICK POINTED OUT, YOU KNOW EACH YOU KNOW THE TRIGGERS BEING WHAT THEY ARE THEN THEN BETWEEN PLANNING AND ENVIRONMENTAL THAT THOSE REVIEWS TAKE PLACE THAT FIGURE TO TO DETERMINE WHAT YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO SATISFY WHAT'S MOST LIKELY GOING TO SATISFY THAT REQUIREMENT. SO I GUESS THE COMMENT THAT I WANT TO MAKE MAYOR AND I DON'T THINK THAT STAFFERS NECESSARILY ON THIS BUT I WOULD HATE TO HATE TO SEE IT HAPPEN WERE JUST THERE'S PROFESSIONAL DIFFERENCES THAT CERTAIN PEOPLE ARE EXCLUDED FROM BEING ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE SOMETHING IN THE CITY AND NOT IN ALL THAT. SO JUST SO THERE'S THIS EQUITY AND INCLUSION SENSE OF THAT THAT THAT EVERYONE WHO IS TRYING TO APPLY FOR A BUSINESS OR TRYING TO GET ONE SAID I DON'T GET THAT IMPRESSION THAT THAT THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS OR OR THAT BUT YOU KNOW SOMETIMES PERCEPTION BECOMES REALITY OUT THERE AND SO ANYTIME I HEAR THAT I JUST WANT TO AT LEAST ASK THE QUESTION IN TERMS OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE SO THERE IF I MAY HAVE JUST MAKE ONE LAST COMMENT IS THAT I MEAN NO ONE I'VE SPOKEN WITH THROUGH THIS PROCESS HAS BEEN DEFENSIVE OR NOT WANTING TO HAVE ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION AROUND THIS TOPIC. WE KNOW THAT THESE THINGS AND THIS WHOLE LIST OF THINGS WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT COST A LOT OF MONEY AND IT'S HARD TO GET A BUSINESS GOING AND OPERATE IT PARTICULARLY IN , YOU KNOW, MORE CHALLENGING ECONOMIC TIMES. SO YOU KNOW, I THINK EVERY STAFF PERSON I'VE SPOKEN WITH IS VERY OPEN AND WELCOMING AND WELCOMES THESE OVERALL CONVERSATIONS IN GENERAL AND APPRECIATES ATTENTION THAT IT'S GETTING FRANKLY. THANK YOU FOR THAT.  ALSO ANYTHING ELSE, COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO, DID YOU WANT TO CHIME IN NOW OR I CAN SURE IF YOU WANT. WE JUST LOOKING IN GENERAL WITH ALL OF OUR IT IT CAN KIND OF BE A BASED ON THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC IF YOU WANT ME JUST TO WAIT TILL THE END THAT'S FINE OKAY THAT'D BE FINE. YEAH, THAT'S GREAT. THANKS. SO GIVEN OUR DISCUSSION, CAN WE GET A THUMBS UP REGARDING RECENT INTERCEPTION?  SOUNDS GOOD. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND MEMBERS MOVING ON TO ODOR CONTROL. SO JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW OF WHAT OUR STANDARDS ARE SO RIGHT NOW FEW FOOD USES ARE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE ODOR SUPPRESSION IF THEY'RE LOCATED WITHIN HUNDRED AND 50 FEET OF A RESIDENTIAL DWELLING HAVING A TYPE ONE AND TYPE TWO HOOD. AND THIS QUESTION CAME UP AT PLANNING COMMISSION SO MAYBE I'LL GET OUT IN FRONT OF IT A LITTLE BIT. TYPE ONE ARE THE LARGER HOODS THAT ARE THE GREASE GRABBING HOODS YOU HAVE FOR SAY HAMBURGERS OR FRYING OR OTHER ,YOU KNOW, MORE INTENSIVE COOKING TYPE TWO OR STEAM RELATED AND VAPOR RELATED COOKING.  SO BAKING COFFEE ROASTING OTHER TYPES OF THINGS THAT DON'T HAVE AS MUCH AIRBORNE GREASE.  SO THOSE ARE AUTOMATIC TRIGGERS AS WELL AS THERE'S A GENERIC TRIGGER AROUND FOOD EMITTING ODORS. AND SO OUR REQUIREMENT IS THAT WHEN YOU'RE WITHIN 250 FEET AND YOU HAVE THE KINDS OF EQUIPMENT YOU'RE INSTALLING NEW EQUIPMENT IT'S A NEW BUILD THAT YOU PROVIDE THIS AND THAT AN ENGINEER CERTIFY DESIGNED THE SYSTEM AND PUT THEIR STAMP ON IT EFFECTIVELY. MOST OF THE CITIES WE SERVE CERTIFIED REQUIRE ODOR MITIGATION FOR FOOD USES THAT AT THE STATE LEVEL DOES REGULATE ODORS BUT ONLY FOR NOT FOR FOOD. SO ONLY FOR THINGS THAT ARE MORE CLEARLY ESTABLISHED ASSOCIATED WITH PUBLIC HEALTH RELATED ISSUES PERTAINING TO EMISSIONS. SO I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT THAT. SO MOST CITIES DON'T REGULATE FOR ORDER. THE CITIES THAT DO WE CAN TALK ABOUT THEM. ONE OF THEM IS OUR NEIGHBOR TO THE NORTH RICHFIELD AND SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND ARE MORE IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE REGULATIONS OF RICHFIELD.  BUT BASICALLY THE STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND REDUCING THAT DISTANCE REQUIREMENT TO 150 FEET. ONE OF THE ISSUES IN TERMS OF THE SCIENCE OF ODOR IS THAT THE FURTHER YOU'RE GETTING FROM THE SOURCE OF THE ODOR THESE OWNERS ARE NOW MIXING WITH OTHER THINGS OUTSIDE OF THE DIRECT SOURCE OF THE ODOR SO THAT IS WHY EVERY ODOR CONTROL MEASURE OR REGULATION THAT YOU FIND AROUND A LOCAL LEVEL TYPICALLY HAS A DISTANCE ASSOCIATED WITH IT BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE THE ODOR CAN POTENTIALLY POSE A CONCERN OR A NUISANCE OR A THREAT TO PUBLIC HEALTH SAFETY WELFARE.  IT'S WHEN YOU'RE RIGHT NEARBY. ONE OF THE THINGS WITH 250 FEET THAT WE FOUND IN TERMS OF THAT DISTANCE SEPARATION IS THAT'S ALSO COLLECTING RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES THAT ARE ACROSS THE STREET OR NOT KIND OF RIGHT ADJACENT TO A BUSINESS. SO THE FURTHER THAT DISTANCE GOES IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT THERE IS NOT AN IMPACT OF 250 FEET. THERE IS AN IMPACT AT 250 FEET BUT THE IMPACT IS MOST ACUTE RIGHT NEXT TO THE ODOR CAUSING BUSINESS  IF THAT MAKES SENSE. SO WE WOULD RECOMMEND TO SHIFT THAT TO 150 FEET. WE WOULD RECOMMEND ALSO TO REMOVE THE TYPE TWO HOOD TRIGGER. THERE SOME TYPE TWO HOOD USES LIKE COFFEE ROASTING THAT CAN GENERATE MORE STRONG ODORS BUT TYPICALLY THAT CAN ALSO BE HANDLED THROUGH THE THIRD PROVISION IN THE TRIGGER LIST WHICH HAS TO DO WITH JUST FOOD EMITTING ODORS IN GENERAL. SO REQUIRING IT FOR NON DISHWASHING SO TYPE TWO HOOD IS KIND OF OVERKILL IN OUR VIEW. SO THIS IS THE KEY ONE MAYBE JUST FROM THE CAR STANDPOINT IS IN SPEAKING WITH BUSINESS OWNERS WHO'VE NAVIGATED THIS IT HAS TO DO WITH ENGINEER CERTIFICATION AND THE BEING IS THAT ODOR IS NOT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE MITIGATED TO ZERO. SOME ENGINEERS ARE NOT COMFORTABLE LIVING IN A WORLD WHERE YOU'RE NOT FULLY YOU'RE EITHER DOING IT OR YOU'RE NOT DOING IT AND THAT'S MOST ENGINEERS THAT I'VE KNOWN IN MY LIFE. SO ONE OF THE ISSUES HERE IS THAT SOME BUSINESS OWNERS IT'S HARD TO FIND AN ENGINEER WITH THIS EXPERTIZE WILLING TO SIGN IT OR BE THERE'S A LACK OF WILLINGNESS TO DO IT OR THREE IT HAS A SIGNIFICANT ASSOCIATED WITH IT. SO OUR BUILDING AND INSPECTION STAFF AND OUR MECHANICAL STAFF THANKFULLY IS FAIRLY FAMILIAR WITH A LOT OF THESE SYSTEMS.  AND SO WHERE PREVIOUSLY THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE FAVORED THE ENGINEER'S CERTIFICATION TO GET A PRIVATE PARTY TO KIND OF SIGN OFF ON THE SYSTEM FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM. THE BUILDING OFFICIAL NOW IS COMFORTABLE ASSUMING THAT APPROVAL AUTHORITY BECAUSE WE DO KNOW GOOD SYSTEMS FROM BAD AND WE CAN ADJUST TO THAT POINT ABOUT STAFF DISCRETION AND THE IMPORTANCE HAVING GOOD REGULATIONS AND CONSISTENCY.  THEY ARE AWARE OF WHAT THE GOOD SYSTEMS AND THE BAD SYSTEMS ARE AND WHAT ARE APPROPRIATE DIFFERENT SITUATIONS. SO I THINK WHAT WE PLAN TO DO THERE IF THIS IS SUPPORTED WOULD BE DEVELOPING SOME EDUCATIONAL MATERIALS KIND OF SETTING SOME BASIC PARAMETERS FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF FOOD EMITTING ODORS AND HOW TO DEAL WITH THEM.  OPTION B AND SO THAT'S THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION BASICALLY IS TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES. OPTION B WOULD REMOVE THE ODOR CONTROL REQUIREMENT FOR FOOD USES CERTAINLY MORE IN LINE WITH SOME OF THE CITIES PEER CITIES THAT WE STUDIED. BUT SOME OF THESE COMMUNITIES HAVE LESS ROBUST COMMERCIAL AND FOOD AND HOSPITALITY RELATED USES IN THEIR COMMUNITIES THAN BLOOMINGTON DOES IN CLOSE PROXIMITY. YOU THINK ABOUT A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT WITHIN A RESTAURANT.  SO THOSE ARE KIND OF THE TWO OPTIONS BUT I'M HAPPY TO STAY ON FOR QUESTIONS AND TAKE YOUR DIRECTION.  COUNCILMEMBER NELSON THANK YOU ,MAYOR AND I THINK YOU JUST ANSWERED MY QUESTION BUT JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT THIS WOULD BASICALLY LIMIT THIS PROVISION TO A MIX DEVELOPMENT WHERE THERE WAS SOME TYPE OF RESIDENTIAL OR A HOUSING RIGHT NEXT TO RESTAURANTS KIND OF ON THE SAME JUST ADJACENT PROPERTIES NOT AND SO IT WOULD AVOID THE ONES WHERE SOME PEOPLE ARE ACROSS THE STREET AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THAT'S THE GOAL OF THIS. SO MAYOR COUNCILOR NELSON THAT'S GENERALLY CORRECT. YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALWAYS A UNIQUE SCENARIO OR UNIQUE MEASUREMENT WHERE IT MIGHT COLLECT SOMEWHERE IN ACROSS THE STREET BUT IT WOULD BE HARD FOR THAT TO IMAGINE THAT BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S I'VE HEARD FROM STAFF ABOUT CONCERNS WHERE YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, A RESTAURANT IN A LOWER LEVEL OF A MIXED USE FACILITY AND YOU HAVE THE ODOR JUST GOING UP TO THE FLOORS ABOVE THERE VERSUS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF OLDER WHERE THERE'S NO ORDER OR MITIGATION OF RESTAURANTS AND THEY SEEM TO WORK JUST FINE. SO THANK YOU.  ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON ODOR CONTROL OR MITIGATION?  CAN I GET THE THUMBS UP?  AND JUST TO AFFIRM FOR THE RECORD, MAYOR OF , THE THUMBS UP FOR THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS WHAT I WAS UNDERSTANDING. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WITH THAT I WILL TURN IT OVER TO PLANNER CASS SUN TO TALK ABOUT EXTERIOR MATERIALS.  ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I JUST WANT TO SUMMARIZE SOME OF THE AREAS HERE RELATED TO EXTERIOR COATINGS AND MATERIALS AND A LOT OF THIS WAS TAKEN FROM FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE GOTTEN FROM BUSINESSES OVER THE YEAR LOOKING AT SOME COMPARABLE CITIES AND NEIGHBORING CITIES AND THEN AS WELL AS TALKING TO SOME LOCAL ARCHITECTS FOR FEEDBACK.  AND SO I JUST WANT TO SUMMARIZE KIND OF THREE MAIN AREAS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN THE PROPOSED CODE AMENDMENTS THE FIRST BEING EXTERIOR COATINGS.  SO OUR CURRENT CODE DOESN'T ALLOW PAINTING OR COATING OF PRIMARY MATERIALS. SO WHEN THE CURRENT STANDARDS WERE PASSED A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, IF YOUR SURFACE WAS ALREADY OR COATED YOU'RE ALLOWED TO CONTINUE TO REPAINT AND RECALL THAT. BUT ANY NEW MATERIALS AREN'T ALLOWED TO BE PAINTED SO THAT THIS GETS BROUGHT UP A LOT BY BUSINESSES WANTING TO THE LOOK OF THEIR BUILDING PARTICULARLY IF THAT BUILDING IS BRICK OR STUCCO.  SO THERE'S KIND OF SOME DIFFERENT CONSIDERATIONS TO THINK ABOUT TONIGHT I GUESS TO THINK ABOUT ARGUMENTS MAYBE AGAINST PAINTING OR COATING IS THAT PAINTING BRICK OR MASONRY TRAP MOISTURE AND RESULT IN DISINTEGRATION OF THE BRICK AND THEY CAN REQUIRE REGULAR UPKEEP OF THE PAINTED SURFACE AND THAT CAN MASK A BRICK'S NATURAL TEXTURE OR COLOR AND THEN MAYBE ON THE FLIP OR REVERSE THINKING ABOUT MAYBE REASONS WHY WE'RE OKAY WITH COATING IS THAT THERE'S NOW MORE OPTIONS IN BRICK PAINTS AND STAINS THAT SUPPORT THE BREATHABILITY OF BRICK AND THE CITY DOES HAVE BUILDING STANDARDS THAT CAN BE ENFORCED AND PAINTING A BUILDING CAN BE A COST EFFECTIVE WAY TO REFRESH PARTICULARLY AN OLDER SO WHICH ARE SOME OF THESE FACTORS IN MIND AND WANTING TO REDUCE FOR BUSINESSES STAFF IS PROPOSING TO ALLOW COATING OF MOST EXTERIOR MATERIALS IN THE CITY AND THEN OF COURSE WELCOME YOUR FEEDBACK OR CONCERNS ON THAT. AND THE SECOND AREA I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT OUR CURRENT CODE DESCRIBES PRIMARY AND SECONDARY MATERIALS AND SO ON THE SCREEN OUR CURRENT PRIMARY AND SECOND INTEGRALS THAT ARE ALLOWED IN THE CITY I MEAN WE HAVE A SET RATIO OF 85 AND 15 SO EVERY FACADE OF A BUILDING HAS TO BE AT LEAST 85% OF SOME KIND OF PRIMARY MATERIAL AND CAN GO UP TO A MAXIMUM OF 15% OF A SECONDARY MATERIAL. AGAIN THIS KIND OF GETS BROUGHT UP FROM SOME BUSINESSES PARTICULARLY GOING INTO SOME KIND OF MULTI-TENANT SPACES AND THEN THEY CAN RUN INTO CHALLENGES WITH THIS RATIO PARTICULARLY THAT ONLY ALLOWING 15% OF A FACADE IS A SECONDARY MATERIAL.  SO LOOKING AT SOME OTHER NEIGHBORING CITIES IT SEEMS LIKE THAT RATIO IS MORE SOMEWHERE LIKE 7030, 6040 AND THEN OUR 8515 RATIO IS IS PRETTY HIGH AND SO WHAT STAFF WAS PROPOSING IS TO GO FROM 8515 TO TO 6535 AND AGAIN I'M LOOKING FOR ANY FEEDBACK YOU HAVE THERE TO CODE IF I MAY OR IF I CAN JUMP IN REAL QUICK AND THAT IS JUST AND THERE IS SOME DISCUSSION AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION LEVEL ABOUT HOW SOME OF THESE CHANGES AFFECT SMALL BUSINESS AND THAT'S A TOTALLY LEGITIMATE QUESTION AND DISCUSSION TO HAVE.  BUT IN ADDITION TO ONE WAY TO REFRESH YOUR LOOK IS PAINTING A BUILDING. CERTAINLY ANOTHER WAY IS THAT YOU'LL SEE SOME SOME BUSINESSES WANT TO REPLACE ACTUAL MATERIALS ON THEIR STOREFRONT AND SO IF THERE'S A LIMITATION OF 15% OF WHAT SECONDARY MATERIALS YOU CAN USE, IT REALLY LIMITS THE TYPES OF SWAPS OR CHANGES YOU CAN MAKE IN THE EXTERIOR MATERIALS AND THAT'S 15% COMBINED OF ALL THE SECONDARY MATERIALS JUST ONE SECONDARY MATERIAL IN ISOLATION FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH, THANKS. AND THEN JUST THE LAST ITEM HERE ISN'T REALLY A POLICY ITEM AND MORE JUST A KIND OF CLEAN UP IN THE CODE OF OUR CURRENT INTERPRETATION IS WE JUST WANTED TO ADD SOME DEFINITIONS TO SOME OF OUR MATERIALS TO JUST BE MORE CLEAR FOR ARCHITECTS AND FOR BUSINESS OWNERS ON WHAT WE ALLOW SO THE FOR AS AN EXAMPLE WE CURRENTLY JUST LIST ARCHITECTURAL CONCRETE AND THE CODE THAT KIND OF COVERS CONCRETE PANELS OR POUR IN KARST CONCRETE AND THE TECHNOLOGY OF PANELS HAS REALLY ADVANCED AND SO THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE HERE OF WE CAN HAVE DIFFERENT PATTERNS POURED SO CONCRETE CAN LOOK LIKE BRICK EVEN THOUGH IT IS CONCRETE OR THERE'S THE EXPOSED AGGREGATE WHERE YOU'RE SEEING KIND OF THE SMALL STONES TO GIVE IT SOME TEXTURE OR OR AGAIN THAT KIND OF LIGHT SANDBLAST OR ACID ETCH OF I GUESS EFFECT ON THE CONCRETE SO DOESN'T JUST LOOK LIKE A CONCRETE PANEL AND SO REALLY WHAT THE PROPOSED CHANGES HERE ARE JUST TO ADD A DEFINITION ON AND WHAT STAFF ALREADY INTERPRET AS PERMITTED EXTERIOR MATERIALS AND JUST WANTING TO MAKE THAT MORE CLEAR FOR PEOPLE UP FRONT AND THERE'S KIND OF A I GUESS A CATCH ALL STATEMENT IN OUR CURRENT EXTERIOR MATERIAL CODES WHERE WE SAY LIKE OR AN EQUIVALENT OR BETTER AS DETERMINED BY THE ISSUING AUTHORITY SO THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE'VE KIND OF ALREADY HAVE ALLOWED AND AGAIN JUST WANT TO MAKE IT MORE CLEAR FOR PEOPLE UP FRONT TO MAYBE REDUCE SOME QUESTIONS FROM FROM APPLICANTS.  THIS WAS JUST ON HERE AS AN EXAMPLE WE DID MAKE AN EXCEPTION I GUESS IN THE DEFINITION OF ARCHITECTURAL CONCRETE FOR THIS KIND OF RAKED OR VERTICAL STRIATIONS FINISH TO JUST ALLOW THAT ON INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS BECAUSE IT DOES HAVE I GUESS FELT A MORE INDUSTRIAL EFFECT. SO ON MAINLY COMMERCIAL OR MULTIFAMILY BUILDINGS YOU COULD DO THE OTHER STUFF AND NOT THIS KIND OF FINISH BUT WE WOULD ALLOW THIS FINISH ON AN INDUSTRIAL BUILDING. SO JUST TRYING TO PROVIDE SOME OF THAT AND THE DEFINITIONS AS WELL.  AND THEN IN A SIMILAR VEIN FOR ARCHITECTURAL CONCRETE MASONRY UNITS AGAIN THERE'S KIND OF A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT DESIGNS AND EFFECTS THAT THOSE CAN HAVE.  SO JUST WANTING TO TAKE ACCOUNT FOR THAT IN OUR DEFINITION OF THE MATERIAL.  SO I THINK WITH THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR ANY FEEDBACK YOU HAVE WHETHER YOU SUPPORT OR NOT SUPPORT I'M KIND OF THESE THREE PRIMARY AREAS SO EITHER ALLOWING CODING IS A STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND THE 6535 RATIO AND THEN CLARIFICATIONS ON OUR DEFINITIONS OF MATERIALS ALSO I THINK COMMENTS ON THIS THUMBS UP I CAN'T REMEMBER MORE AND THEN COUNCILMEMBER NELSON COUNCILMEMBER AMIR MY ONE QUESTION ON THE CODE CODING AND PAINTING WOULD THERE BE ANYTHING IN PLACE TO ENSURE THAT THE PAINTING IS NOT KEPT ? I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT MY DECK RIGHT I REPAINT IN MY DECK AND ONE AND A HALF YEARS LATER IT LOOKS LIKE JUNK AGAIN . SO JUST THINKING ABOUT THIS FOR COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS YEAH MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBER MUA WE WOULD CONSIDER THAT IN THE PROPOSED CHANGES THAT HAVE WE MAKE SURE TO MAKE SOME REFERENCE AND THE CITY HAS ADOPTED THE LIKE INTERNATIONAL PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE AND SO WE WANTED TO ADD THAT INTO THIS EXTERIOR MATERIALS SECTION AS ANOTHER REFERENCE FOR ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH STAFF TO BE ABLE TO ENFORCE THAT IF WE'RE SEEING KIND OF CHIPPED PAINTER ANY KIND OF DETERIORATE ADDED EXTERIOR ON THE BUILDING LOTS COUNCILMEMBER NELSON THANK YOU MAYOR THE PERCENTAGE FOR THE PRIMARY SECONDARY DOES THAT CHANGE AT ALL BASED ON IF IT'S THE SCHOOL'S FACE IN A PUBLIC AWAY SO LIKE THE BACK OF YOUR BUILDING CAN YOU JUST DO SECONDARY THERE. YEAH MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER NELSON'S SO THE CURRENT EXTERIOR MATERIALS AND HER PROPOSED CHANGE IT WOULD APPLY TO ALL FACADES REGARDLESS IF IT FACES THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY THERE ARE SOME CITIES THAT DO CHANGE THAT IF IT'S NOT VISIBLE FROM THE PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY AND DO HAVE DIFFERENT STANDARDS BUT WE CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE THAT AND WE'RE PROPOSING THAT HERE AND THEN IS THERE ANY DIFFERENTIATION BASED ON SIZE OF BUILDING TO THE COMMENT OF HOW DOES THIS HELP SMALL BUSINESSES BECAUSE I HAPPEN TO OWN A BUSINESS THAT HAS A BUILDING THAT IS ALMOST ALL OF FIBER CEMENT AND IT'S BEEN FINE WE PAINT IT BUT TO COUNCILMEMBER WAS POINT SO YOU KNOW BUT IT'S IT'S A 5000 SQUARE FOOT OFFICE BUILDING AND IT'S NOT A EXTREMELY LARGE BUILDING SO ARE THERE DIFFERENT STANDARDS BASED ON DIFFERENT SIZES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. YEAH MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER NELSON CURRENTLY THERE IS NOT SO THERE ISN'T CURRENTLY IN OUR CODE DISTINCTION ON THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING AND THERE WEREN'T ANY PROPOSED CHANGES HERE AROUND THAT. YEAH MAYOR IF I MAY ADD THAT TOO AS ONE SMALL CAVEAT ON THE NOT FACING PUBLIC STREET FRONTAGES THERE IS THE INCENTIVE AND THE OPPORTUNITY HOUSING ORDINANCE THAT YOU CAN HAVE MORE ALTERNATIVE MATERIALS ON NON STREET FACING BESIDE SO THAT'S THE ONE WRINKLE TO THAT AS WELL BUT MOST CITIES DAKOTA AND I HAVE OBSERVED FROM OTHER INVESTIGATIONS DON'T REGULATE BASED ON BUILDING SIZE. THEY TYPICALLY REGULATE BASED ON USE SO THEY'LL JUST HAVE DIFFERENT STANDARDS AND THAT'S SIMILAR TO WHAT BLOOMINGTON DOES.  BUT OTHER CITIES ALSO TEND TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT CLASSES OF YOU KNOW, MATERIALS VERSUS JUST PRIMARY AND SECONDARY. AND SO ONE OF THE IN SOME OF THE DISCUSSIONS THAT DAKOTA'S HAD WITH ARCHITECTS IS MAKE IT SIMPLE FOR US. YOU KNOW, GIVE US RULES TO FOLLOW AND THEN WE CAN DESIGN TO THAT SOME OF THESE COMMUNITIES WHERE YOU HAVE TO HAVE VERY PRECISE PERCENTAGE CALCULATIONS WITH FIVE DIFFERENT CLASSES OF MATERIALS YOU'RE ALLOWED 10% OF CLASS FIVE FIVE OF CLASS FOUR YEAH. THAT THAT THAT THAT THAT IT JUST GETS A LITTLE BIT OF CHAOTIC AND HECTIC TO DO THEIR JOB ON THEIR PART SO I THINK THEY'RE JUST SEEKING CLARITY GIVE US WHAT THE RULES ARE AND WE'LL WE'LL FOLLOW THAT WAY. THAT'S THE FEEDBACK WE GOT BACK.  SO I GUESS MY QUICK COMMENT WOULD BE I'D BE OPEN TO ON YOU KNOW THE BACKSIDE OF BUILDINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT HAVING A LOWER STANDARD IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED SUPPORT ON THIS COUNCIL AND I GENERALLY SUPPORT IT. MY ONLY CAVEAT IS I SO HESITATE PAINT BRICK BECAUSE IT'S FOREVER AND AND THAT IS A TOUGH THING AND WE SAW THAT GOOD EXAMPLE IF YOU RECALL WITH TCF BANK EXAMPLE AT AMERICAN BOULEVARD IN PENN THAT THEY WANTED TO PAINT THAT WONDERFUL BRICK BUILDING BLACK TO DO TO GO WITH THE NEW TCF MOTIF. WE DIDN'T ALLOW THEM TO AND SIX MONTHS LATER THEY BECAME HUNTINGTON BANK WHICH WAS GREEN.  AND SO I MEAN I JUST IT JUST MAKES ME UNCOMFORTABLE. I MEAN I UNDERSTAND IT AND I KNOW THOSE ARE ODD. I EXAMPLES AND I ALSO KNOW THAT THERE AREN'T ENORMOUS EXAMPLES AND THAT'S A BIG EXAMPLE BUT THERE ARE MANY SMALLER BUILDINGS BRICK BUILDINGS THAT I'M SURE COULD LOOK A LOT BETTER WITH PAINT SO WE GOT TWO THUMBS UP I'M SEEING A CONSENSUS OF THUMBS UP SO ONWARD. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU AMEREN MEMBERS AND WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT ADDITIONAL SUGGESTION THAT COUNCILMEMBER NELSON MADE AND WE'LL REPORT BACK ON THAT WHEN WE PRESENT THE ORDINANCE FOR A PUBLIC HEARING HEARING.  SO MOVING ON TO OUR LAST TOPIC AS PART OF THIS PRESENTATION HAPPENS TO BE USE AND RECYCLING STORAGE FACILITIES. SO BLOOMINGTON I WOULD SAY IS IS MORE YOU KNOW AS PER OUR PEER CITY RESEARCH WE DO FIND COMMONALITY AMONG SOME OF OUR PEER COMMUNITIES ON USE AND RECYCLING STORAGE WE ARE TEND TO BE IN A VERY SMALL GROUP MAYBE ALONE SOMETIMES AND SOME OF OUR STANDARDS THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY'RE THEY DON'T HAVE MERIT OR THEY DON'T PREVENT A LOT OF NUISANCE CHARACTERISTIC.  BUT FIRST LET'S JUST TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE SO OUR TRASH STANDARDS REQUIRE TRASH FACILITIES TO BE ATTACHED TO THE BUILDING FOR ALMOST ALL USES IN ALL SCENARIOS THERE'S SOME EXCEPTIONS FOR INDUSTRIAL USES IN MOST SCENARIOS IT REQUIRES IT TO BE INTERNALLY ACCESSIBLE FROM THE BUILDING. SO WHAT IN EFFECT THAT MEANS IS IT'S JUST A PART OF THE BUILDING. IT'S A BUILDING ADDITION TO.  THE BUILDING YOU CAN SEE IN THE IMAGE THE AREA CIRCLE IN RED THIS IS A THIS IS A CONFORMING TRASH AND RECYCLING FACILITY AS PART OF A RESTAURANT. SO IN ADDITION TO THOSE TWO STANDARDS WE ALSO HAVE SPECIAL FINISH REQUIREMENTS FOR FOOD RELATED USES AND TYPICALLY WHAT MEANS IS CLEANABLE SURFACES SO CERTAIN TYPES OF TILE OR OTHER FINISHES THAT CAN BE CLEANED FOOD USE HAS UNIQUE NUISANCE CHARACTERISTICS ASSOCIATED WITH IT THAT ALSO TYPICALLY MEANS A WATER SOURCE AND A FLOOR DRAIN AND OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THE CLEANING OF THE REFUSE AREA.  SO WHY DO WE HAVE THESE RULES? WELL, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF ISSUES THAT WE'VE ENCOUNTERED OVER THE YEARS AND THESE INCLUDE ILLEGAL DUMPING ,SAFETY, UNSANITARY CONDITIONS, VANDALISM, ODORS, RODENTS, FLIES, INSECTS, LEACHATE. SO THREATS TO THE STORM SEWER BASICALLY SCIENTISTS AND SITE ESTHETICS. SO ALL OF THOSE MANY THAT I JUST LISTED ARE THE PRIMARY DRIVER BEHIND WHY WE HAVE THE STANDARDS THAT WE HAVE. THE DOWNSIDE OF THESE OF REQUIRING FACILITIES TO THIS FINISH LEVEL IS THAT THERE'S SIGNIFICANT COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH PROVIDING IT.  SO THAT'S THE TRADE OFF ANECDOTALLY FROM WORKING ON A LOT OF NEW BUSINESSES VERSUS RETROFITTING EXISTING SHOPPING CENTERS, THE HARDEST SITUATION TO ACCOMMODATE MEET OUR STANDARDS IS RETROFITTING AN EXISTING SPACE TRANSITIONING IT SAY FROM A RETAIL TO A RESTAURANT SPACE THAT'S THE HARDEST ONE BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A LOT OF PROPERTIES IN BLOOMINGTON ARE LEGALLY NON-CONFORMING FOR TRASH BUT AGAIN ONCE YOU CHANGE THE USE A TRIGGER FOR OUR REFUGE SOME RECYCLING STORAGE REQUIREMENTS PARTICULARLY FOR FOOD SO THERE'S A LOT OF BENEFITS TO THESE STANDARDS BUT IT COMES WITH COST AND THE HARDEST AREA TO ACCOMMODATE IT IS IN THE THE EXISTING BUILDINGS, THE EXISTING SHOPPING CENTERS IN BLOOMINGTON.  SO WE WENT ON A TOUR ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH STAFF AND I REVIEW SOME VARIOUS FACILITIES THROUGHOUT BLOOMINGTON ON THE LEFT AS A CODE COMPLIANT FACILITY.  SO AGAIN THAT'S VERY SIMILAR TO THE LAST IMAGE I SHOWED YOU WITH A TRASH ROOM ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE BUILDING WITH AN OVERHEAD DOOR VERY COMMON. THERE'S INSIDE THE SPACE THERE'S A DOORWAY OR AN ACCESS INTO THE RESTAURANT .  EMPLOYEES CAN ACCESS THE SPACE WITHOUT GOING OUTSIDE VERY SAFE. THAT'S THAT'S THE PINNACLE OF EMPLOYEE SAFETY AND OPERATIONS IN TERMS OF LIMITING THE NUISANCE CHARACTERISTICS TO ADJOINING ADJACENT PROPERTIES AND AND DEALING WITH THE ESTHETIC CONDITIONS ON THE RIGHT IS A LEGALLY NON-CONFORMING FACILITY YOU COULD SAY WELL IT'S GOT THE OVERHEAD DOOR IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S INSIDE. THIS IS ACTUALLY A MULTI-TENANT SHOPPING CENTER AND SO SOME ASPECTS OF THIS FACILITY ARE CONFORMING WITH OUR STANDARDS BUT THERE IS NOT A DEDICATED HALLWAY ACCESS OR INTERNAL ACCESS TO ALL OF THE TENANTS IN THE SPACE THEY CAN ACCESS IT BY GOING OUTSIDE AND THEN USING THE FACILITY BUT IT DOESN'T CHECK EVERY BOX IN TERMS OF MEETING OUR STANDARDS ON LEFT AND THE RIGHT. THESE ARE TWO EXAMPLES OF WHAT PLANNING AND HEALTH STAFF VIEWED AS PRETTY POSITIVE EXAMPLES OF LEGALLY NON-CONFORMING OUTSIDE TRASH STORAGE. YOU CAN SEE THAT THE FACILITIES ARE SCREENED THERE AND IN SOME CASES PAINTED TO MATCH THE BUILDING OR ESTHETICALLY MATCH THE BUILDING IN SOME WAY. THEY'RE IN THE REAR OF THE OF THE BUILDING SO THEY'RE REALLY KIND OF PROTECTING THE PUBLIC WAYS AROUND THE SITE. THEY'RE RIGHT NEAR AN ACCESS DOOR SO IT'S IN CLOSE PROXIMITY IF YOU'RE IF AN EMPLOYEE DOES NEED TO GO OUTSIDE TO TAKE THE GARBAGE OR RECYCLING OUTSIDE, THEY'RE NOT TRAVELING A FAR DISTANCE WHICH IS IMPORTANT. SO THESE ARE TWO EXAMPLES WHERE IF YOU'RE DOING IT OUTSIDE THEY'RE DOING IT WELL IN EFFECT IN VARIOUS WAYS ON THE LEFT IS ANOTHER THIS IS ACTUALLY A CODE COMPLIANT FACILITY YOU CAN SEE THE OVERHEAD DOOR AND THEY'VE WHEELED THIS OUT FOR FOR TRASH PICKUP DAY. ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT STAFF HAS ENCOUNTERED IS THAT WHERE SOME BUSINESSES WILL JUST WHEEL OUT THE TRASH ON PICKUP DAY, SOME WILL JUST KEEP THE DUMPSTER OUTSIDE AND REPURPOSE THAT SPACE BECAUSE REAL ESTATE IS VERY VALUABLE AS YOU ALL KNOW THEY CAN USE THAT SPACE TO STACK OTHER MATERIALS ASSOCIATED WITH THEIR BUSINESS AND SO EVEN WHEN BUILDING THE FACILITY TO MEET THE CODE SOMETIMES OVER TIME THAT SPACE GETS REPURPOSED BY THE SAME OR A DIFFERENT OPERATOR WHO NOW OCCUPIES THE SITE.  THE IMAGE ON THE RIGHT IS SOMETHING I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO THE WATER RESOURCE.  IS THAT ONE OF THE ISSUES WITH STORING TRASH AND RECYCLING OUTSIDE IS THAT IN SOME FACILITIES DEPENDING ON THEIR DESIGN THEY DRAIN DIRECTLY TO STORM SEWER AND SO THAT'S A BIG PROBLEM AND AGAINST OUR REGULATIONS OF COURSE BUT HERE YOU CAN SEE ACTUALLY WHERE THERE'S SOME YOU KNOW SOME WASTE OR I USE THE TERM EFFLUENT I GUESS I DON'T KNOW BUT SOME GREASES OILS SOME PART OF THE GARBAGE THAT'S DRAINING TOWARDS THE STORM SEWER SO THAT'S OBVIOUSLY NOT IDEAL AND WHAT WE WOULD WANT TO PROTECT AGAINST IF YOU WERE TO ALLOW THIS TYPE OF THING SO WITH KIND OF THE INITIAL STANDARDS IN MIND AS WELL AS KIND OF ANECDOTES OR REFLECTIONS AS PART OF THE TOUR AND KIND OF IDENTIFYING WHAT ACTUALLY WORKS WELL ABOUT OUTDOOR STORAGE VERSUS NOT IN SOME SCENARIOS WE KIND OF BOIL THIS DOWN TO THREE MAIN OPTIONS OF WHAT YOU CAN DO AS IN TERMS OF THIS REGULATORY FRAMEWORK FOR REFUSE AND RECYCLING. ONE IS DO NOTHING IS TO KEEP THE STANDARDS OF THE WAY THAT THE WAY THAT THEY ARE BECAUSE THEY'RE THE MOST EFFECTIVE AT DEALING WITH THE TENDER.  SO ISSUES I MENTIONED AT THE START OF THE PRESENTATION THE SECOND OPTION IN RECOGNITION OF THE FACT THAT OUR CODE COMPLYING FACILITIES CAN BE ACCOMMODATED ACCOMMODATED AS PART OF NEW CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS FAIRLY IN A FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD WAY. AS I MENTIONED, RETROFITTING EXISTING BUILDINGS IS THE HARDEST THING TO ACCOMMODATE. OPTION TWO WOULD BE MAINTAINING OUR EXISTING OR SIMILAR STANDARDS FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS.  THERE COULD BE SIZE ELEMENTS POTENTIALLY ASSOCIATED IT BUT THE FUNDAMENTAL ISSUE IS THE NEW CONSTRUCTION YOU'RE BUILDING A BRAND NEW BUILDING . IT GIVES YOU THAT KIND OF CLEAN PALETTE BUT ALLOW FOR ALTERNATIVE SCENARIOS FOR EXISTING COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES. THE THIRD OPTION IS REALLY PROBABLY MORE IN LINE WITH WHAT MOST COMMUNITIES IS THEY ALLOW EXTERIOR TRASH AND RECYCLING STORAGE BUT SUBJECT TO STANDARDS AND SO WHAT WOULD THOSE STANDARDS BE? I'LL HIGHLIGHT THAT HERE IN A MINUTE. JUST OVERVIEW AGAIN OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION FEEDBACK AGAIN THE FOUR MEMBERS ARE INVOLVED IN THE DISCUSSION. I WOULD SAY THEIR FEEDBACK WAS MIXED BUT THEY MOSTLY ALIGNED WITH OPTION TWO IN TERMS OF STILL REQUIRING THESE STANDARDS FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION . THE OTHER THING I WOULD SAY IS THAT THEY HAD A YOU KNOW,  LENGTHY OR GOOD FEEDBACK AROUND THE ESTHETICS AND SCREENING OF THE ENCLOSURE THAT IT SHOULD BE OF QUALITY MATERIALS AND SHOULD MATCH THE BUILDING SO THAT THAT WAS KIND OF WHERE THEIR FEEDBACK CENTERED ON BUT IF YOU WERE TO ALLOW EXTERIOR TRASH STORAGE IN ANY WAY THESE ARE KIND OF THE FIVE AREAS THAT STAFF WOULD MOST STRONGLY EMPHASIZE THAT ARE IMPORTANT.  ONE IS THAT THEY'RE SCREENED AND ENCLOSED ON ALL SIDES IN SOME CASES WITH A ROOF. NOW YOU COULD ASK WHY SHOULD A TRASH STORAGE AREA HAVE A ROOF ASSOCIATED KEEP STORMWATER OF THE FACILITY, KEEP SNOW AND RAIN OUT OF MIXING WITH REFUSE AND RECYCLING STORAGE LOCATION SHOULD BE IN CLOSE DISTANCE OF THE BUILDING THAT AGAIN IS AN EMPLOYEE SAFETY CONSIDERATION.  IT'S ALSO IF YOU HAVE LEAKING GARBAGE OR IN ANY WAY IT LIMITS THE DISTANCE AT WHICH YOU DEPOSITED THE FACILITY.  THE THIRD ONE STORAGE LOCATION LIMITED ASIDE IN REGARDS TO THIS IS JUST KIND OF A BASIC PLANNING ZONING PRINCIPLE OF TRYING TO KEEP IT IN BACK SHOP SCENARIO.  AND THEN THE FOURTH THING REQUIRE SETBACKS TO RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES.  ONE OF THE CHALLENGES OF ALLOWING OUT OF OUTDOOR TRASH STORAGE IS THAT THERE'S A LOT OF MULTI-FAMILY APARTMENTS THAT ARE NEAR COMMERCIAL AREAS AND YOU DON'T WANT TO LOCATE ONE OF THESE FACILITIES IN CLOSE TO RESIDENTIAL USE OF ANY KIND. SO REQUIRING SOME FORM OF SETBACK EITHER YOU KNOW WE HAVE AN SAT ON A HARD DISTANCE YET BUT WE'RE REVIEWING SOME OF OUR PEER COMMUNITIES ON THAT AS WELL AND THEN SITE LIGHTING TO SO BLOOMINGTON HAS A LONG HISTORY OF WORKING WITH FOLKS TO GET THEIR LIGHTING UPGRADED AGAIN THIS IS AN EMPLOYEE SAFETY ISSUE IF THEY'RE TAKING OUT TRASH LATE AT NIGHT WHICH IN MINNESOTA IS 5:00 YET DURING THE WINTER TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE DOING SO IN A WELL-LIT AREA FOR SAFETY SO WITH THAT IN TERMS OF HOW TO SOLICIT, I'LL CERTAINLY TAKE YOUR QUESTIONS. BUT IN TERMS OF SOLICITING FEEDBACK, WHAT REQUEST IF IF THERE'S SOME ALIGNMENT ON OPTIONS ONE, TWO OR THREE AS I MENTIONED ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE AS WELL AS AFFIRMING KIND OF WHICH STANDARDS YOU WOULD SUPPORT IF YOU WERE TO WANT TO SOME FORM OF EXTERIOR TRASH RECYCLING STORAGE COUNCIL LET'S START WITH THE OPTIONS ONE, TWO OR THREE THOUGHTS ON THAT COUNCILMEMBER MOMENT SORRY I'VE GOT QUESTIONS. OH I'M SORRY. QUESTION GO AHEAD. DON'T MIND IF I SAID ON PAGE 171 YOU HAD ON THE RIGHT SIDE IT HAD KIND OF A OUTDOOR FENCED IN WITH A KIND OF A BLACK DOOR IN MY MY UNDERSTANDING IS IS THAT WITH THE CURRENT STANDARDS THAT WE HAVE IT'S INSIDE STANDARD THAT THERE'S A WATER REQUIREMENT IS THAT JUST FOR GONE WHEN WE GO TO OUR OUTSIDE KIND OF SETUP I IN THE WINTER YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH WATER SO HOW IS THAT HOW IS THAT HANDLED IN A LOCATION LIKE THAT? IS THERE AN INDOOR ROOM THEN DESIGNATED FOR THAT? HOW IS THAT HANDLED IN TERMS OF THE THAT'S KIND OF THE PIECE I'M JUST TRYING TO GET MY HEAD AROUND. SO YOU PUT IT OUTSIDE AND I KNOW OTHER CITIES MUST DO IT. SO HOW DO THEY HANDLE THAT OR IS IT JUST NOT IMPORTANT AT ALL WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH FOOD TO?  HAVE THAT SO SEE I'M HERE COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN AND FORGIVE ME I DON'T HAVE THE PACKET IN FRONT OF ME. I THINK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE LEGALLY NON-CONFORMING HARDESTY.  YEAH, YOU TAMRON ON MY SLIDE I'M GOING TO SLIDE DOWN THE SLIDE HERE 171 YES. AND THAT ONE THERE. OKAY. THE RED I MEAN CERTAINLY WHEN YOU HAVE AN EXTERIOR AND WITH THE CONDITIONS DURING THE WINTER PORTION OF THE YEAR YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE CLEANABLE SURFACES.  YOU CERTAINLY CAN SPRAY THEM DOWN WITH THE HOSE AND DO OTHER THINGS TO CLEAN THEM BUT A GOOD OF THE YEAR IT'S GOING TO BE YEAH SO THAT HOW IS THAT HANDLED AND THAT'S THE PIECE I'M TRYING TO OH YEAH THAT'S A GOOD THANKS FOR THAT QUESTION. SO THE STATE DOES REQUIRE THERE ARE SOME STATE REQUIREMENTS AROUND REFUSE COLLECTION AND STORAGE WHICH ARE THAT ALL CITIES INTERACT WITH AND REQUIRE AND SOME THAT IS HAVING LOCKING AND CONTAINED GARBAGE DISPOSAL UNITS.  SO THESE SHOULDN'T BE JUST HAVING OPEN TRASH STORAGE IN EFFECT SOMETIMES THAT DOES OCCUR EITHER THROUGH OPERATIONAL FAILURE OR JUST LACK OF FOLLOWING THE RULES FRANKLY.  BUT WHEN THESE PLACES ARE INSPECTED WHEN THEY'RE WHEN THEY'RE DEALING WITH THEIR HAULERS I MEAN THEY HAVE TO BUY STATE APPROVED CONTAINERS THAT KIND OF DEAL WITH THIS STUFF SO BUT YES YOU'RE RIGHT THAT FOOD USES FOOD WASTE OUTSIDE YOU'RE JUST BASICALLY IN A LOCKED SELF-CONTROLLED CONTAINED UNIT IN TERMS OF THE CLEANING ASPECT IT'S JUST ALL WITHIN THERE. THEY DO CLEAN THEIR UNITS OCCASIONALLY CERTAINLY BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ON THE SAME LEVEL AS CLEANABLE SURFACES AND THE FLOOR DRAIN AND INSIDE ARE CONTAINED FOR US FOR SEASON CONDITION SPACE . IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AT THAT LEVEL. ALL RIGHT. THANKS. I'M JUST STRUGGLING WITH THAT BECAUSE I'VE ONLY WORKED IN THE FACILITY. IT'S HAD THAT CLEAN ROOM IN THERE. YOU KNOW, WHEN I WORKED IN . SO IT'S JUST HARD FOR ME TO IMAGINE HOW MIKE IS TAKING CARE SO I WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR ME TO TAKE A TOUR I THINK BETWEEN NOW AND THEN I'LL MOVE ON BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO RESOLVE THAT TODAY. I YOU KNOW IF THERE'S A CHANCE TO DO A TOUR I'D LOVE TO DO THAT. AND THEN HOW MANY BUSINESSES ARE WE LOSING OUT ON THAT ARE THAT ARE THAT ARE SAYING THIS THAT YOU KNOW THAT THAT ARE IN THESE RENOVATED SPACES OR NEW SPACES IN TERMS OF A YOU KNOW I'M GOING TO RICHFIELD OR SOMEWHERE ELSE BECAUSE DON'T HAVE SUCH STRICT STANDARDS. I MEAN WE LOSE AND I DON'T KNOW A LOT OF FOLKS HERE.  YEAH. MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN MY ANSWER TO THAT WOULD BE ANECDOTAL AT BEST I WOULDN'T SAY THAT WE WE TRACK DATA OF POTENTIAL TENANTS WHO WENT ELSEWHERE AS A RESULT OF OUR STANDARDS. TYPICALLY IT'S NOT ONE THING IT'S FIVE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT YEAH AND SOME OF IT'S THE RENT THAT THAT THE BUILDING OWNER IS SEEKING SO IT'S ALL PART OF A BIG EQUATION WHETHER I CAN PIN IT SOLELY ON THE TRASH ROOM I WOULD SAY ANECDOTALLY IN THE NINE AND A HALF YEARS I'VE BEEN HERE AROUND A FEW IT'S HAPPENED ON A FEW OCCASIONS WHERE THEY JUST COULDN'T RETROFIT AN EXISTING SPACE. BUT IN TERMS OF NEW CONSTRUCTION AND IT'S NEVER BEEN AN IMPEDIMENT IT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK TO A NEW CONSTRUCTION STANDARD TYPICALLY THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE. I WOULD JUST THE RETROFIT SO I WOULD JUST SAY A FEW AND THE TIME THAT I'VE BEEN HERE IS THE SIX MY LAST QUESTION FOR YOU IS AROUND THE ORDER IN OUR NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES.  SO HOW IS THAT IS THAT BEING A DRIVING ISSUE CAUSE I KNOW ONCE WE KIND OF OPEN THESE STANDARDS UP WITH THOSE MULTI USES OR TYPICALLY THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE LOCATED AROUND THESE MULTI-USE ARE SOME OF OUR MOST VULNERABLE RESIDENTS OR CAN BE NOT NECESSARILY ALL THE TIME BUT IN A LOT OF PLACES THEIR CONCENTRATION OF THOSE FOLKS HOW IS THAT DEALT WITH AND KIND OF HANDLED WITH I MEAN IS THERE A POINT WHERE YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE ORDER THAT YOU HAVE KIND OF ENFORCE THAT TO TO CHANGE IT? WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE REMEDY THAT'S UTILIZED IN THOSE LOCATIONS TO KIND OF RESOLVE THAT?  EMERY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SO I, I DON'T HAVE THE SPECIFICS OF THE CITY CODE STANDARD TO POINT TO RIGHT NOW JUST ON THE FLY BUT CERTAINLY YOU KNOW, THE CITY COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT STAFF CODE ENFORCEMENT ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH WOULD BE EXTREMELY RESPONSIVE TO SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES BUT THE WAY THAT WE WOULD THAT CAN BE MITIGATING THAT IS NEVER ALLOW THESE FACILITIES IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO A RESIDENTIAL USE SO IT'S THE SETBACK IT'S WHERE ARE YOU PUTTING IT AND IF YOU WERE TO GO IN THIS DIRECTION OR SUPPORT IT THERE CERTAINLY IS OR BENEFIT FROM A COST PERSPECTIVE TO DO BUSINESS BUT IT'S GOT TO BE DONE IN A THOUGHTFUL WAY IN A THOUGHTFUL LOCATION NOT JUST TO ALLOW SETBACK FROM RESIDENTIAL BUT ALSO NOT TO IMPEDE ACCESS TO ALLOW FOR OPERATIONAL PICKUP. SO ALL THOSE THINGS ARE A FACTOR. TYPICALLY WHAT THEY WOULD NEED TO DO IS GO A ZONING ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL PROCESS TO ESTABLISH WHERE THAT NEW FACILITY COULD BE. IF THEY WEREN'T FOLLOWING THAT THEN THEY WOULD BE SUBJECT TO CODE ENFORCEMENT.  I APPRECIATE THAT WE CAN HAVE FOR THE CONVERSATION. I FEEL LIKE SORT OF ANSWER YOUR FIRST QUESTION SO I GUESS I'M LEANING TOWARDS TWO RELUCTANTLY SO THE THOUGHTS COUNCIL COUNCILMEMBER ONE THEY MAYOR I WOULD BE LEANING MORE TOWARDS THREE WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS BECAUSE I'M QUITE COMFORTABLE ON OUR MOMENT. I'VE ONLY EVER WORKED IN RESTAURANTS THAT HAVE BEEN OUTSIDE.  I'VE WORKED IN BOTH. IF YOU GO BACK TO THAT PICTURE ONES WHERE THEY DON'T HAVE A COVERING ON THE ROOF AND ON WHERE THEY DO AND SO TO REDUCE OLDER THE ONES THAT HAVE COVERINGS ON ALL SIDES OF THE BUILDING SIGNIFICANT REDUCE ODOR THAT LEAKS OUT INTO THE REST OF NEIGHBORHOOD COMPARED TO ONES THAT JUST HAVE A FENCE AROUND THE OUTSIDE. AND SO THAT'S WHY I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF STAFF HAVING STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS FOR OUTDOORS AND WHEN I LOOK AT THE RESTAURANT MAKEUP IN YES WE NEVER HAD ISSUES WITH NEW CONSTRUCTION BUT LOOK AT THE TYPES OF RESTAURANTS THAT COME TO BLOOMINGTON WHO ARE THE ONES THAT ARE ABLE TO AFFORD A WHOLE SEPARATE ROOM JUST FOR GARBAGE.  AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE SO MANY FAST FOOD FRANCHISES NOT THAT THERE'S NOTHING WRONG ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT, RIGHT. THERE'S STILL LOCAL BUSINESSES THERE STILL SANITIZES BUT THAT'S WHAT DRIVES THE COST. SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE LOCAL MOM AND POPS COMING IN AND BUILDING A NEW RESTAURANT BECAUSE THAT EXTRA 20, 30, 40, $50,000 TO SPEND ON A ROOM LIMITS THEM WHEN THEY CAN SPEND YOU KNOW, A FIFTH OF THAT TO BUILD THIS OUTDOOR STRUCTURE TO HAVE THEIR GARBAGE STILL HAVE THEIR EMPLOYEES BE SAFE BUT NOT HAVE THAT COST BURDEN AND ALLOW THEM TO CONTINUE TO BUILD BLOOMINGTON AND HAVE A WIDER VARIETY OF RESTAURANTS SO OFTEN. THREE IS WHERE I'M AT THAT'S FROM A DALLESSANDRO THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. I TOO AM AT OPTION THREE AND I COULD I COULD SUGGEST DON'T KNOW THE NUMBERS SO FORGIVE ME BUT I THINK IF YOU ASKED THE GENTLEMAN AT YOUR OFFICE HE ABSOLUTELY HAD A HARD HARD TIME WITH BUILDING THAT INTO HER INDOOR FACILITY BECAUSE AGAIN SMALL BUSINESS INDIVIDUAL BUSINESS NOT A CHAIN NOT GOING TO GET SUPPORT AS A YOU KNOW, FROM BUILD TO SUIT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SO SO HE BUILT IT YOU'RE RIGHT . NEW CONSTRUCTION THEY SOLVED FOR IT BUT IT TOOK AWAY HIS ABILITY TO THERE'S A REASON THE DRIVE THRU ISN'T OPEN YET. THE DRIVE UP WINDOW OPEN YET AND I THINK HE WOULD TELL YOU THAT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT IF YOU ASKED HIM.  SO YOU KNOW I ONLY HAVE ANECDOTES AS WELL I AM HAVING HAVING SAID THAT GO TO VALLEY VIEW PLAY LOTS BEFORE WE HAD CURBSIDE CURBSIDE COMPOSTING I TOOK MY COMPOST OFF OF YOU PLAY LOTS EVERY WEEK THERE IS NO ROOF ON A THING THAT'S COLLECTING 100% FOOD PEOPLE AND SO WE CAN REALLY REALLY I GET IT BUT FOR WANT OF A NAIL THE KINGDOM IS LOST RIGHT.  THAT'S THE KIND OF THING I FEEL LIKE WE'RE DOING HERE. AND SO I SAY OPEN IT UP, GIVE US GET THE STANDARDS RIGHT,  RESOLVE THE STANDARDS OR EVOLVE THE STANDARDS OVER TIME BUT DON'T LIMIT PEOPLE YOU KNOW AND I'LL MAKE MORE COMMENTS LATER WHEN I HAVE MY LITTLE PLATFORM. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER NELSON FOR THREE I WILL SAY COLLEAGUES, IF YOU'VE EVER LIVED WITHIN EARSHOT OF A BAR OR RESTAURANT EMPTY IN THEIR GLASS AT 230 IN THE MORNING, I'M VOTING FOR NUMBER ONE PERSONALLY AND AS SOMEBODY WHO LITERALLY GREW UP ACROSS THE STREET FROM A LAKESIDE TAVERN THAT IT'S A IT'S A QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUE FOR FOLKS WHO LIVE IN YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE RIGHT NEXT DOOR I MEAN JUST ANYWHERE CLOSE AS THEY DUMP GLASS INTO THE RECYCLING SO I THINK THERE'S REASON FOR THE THE EXISTING STANDARDS I I UNDERSTAND THE COST IMPLICATIONS OF THESE EXISTING STANDARDS BUT IN ADDITION TO THE COST IMPLICATIONS FOR THE BUSINESS, THERE'S THE LIVABILITY IMPLICATIONS FOR THE NEIGHBORS.  OTHER THOUGHTS COUNCILMEMBER NELSON YEAH, THANKS MAYOR. I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS IN REGARDS TO THE NOISE BECAUSE I KNOW THAT IT WOULD BE A NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERN WHICH IS WHY I SUPPORT THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF STAFF IN TERMS OF ESSENTIALLY ALMOST ENCLOSING THAT WITH A ROOF. I THINK THAT CAN MITIGATE SOME OF THAT YOU KNOW, BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE BUILT TO THE SAME STANDARDS AS AN INTERIOR SPACE IN TERMS OF THE CONSTRUCTION AND CODE COMPLIANCE ON THAT FOUNDATION AND ALL OF THAT.  I THINK IT'S A IT'S A GOOD COMPROMISE BETWEEN HAVING IT ENCLOSED AND PROTECTED FROM WEATHER MITIGATING NOISE TO A CERTAIN EXTENT BUT REDUCING COSTS SIGNIFICANTLY FOR FOLKS WHETHER THEY'RE BUILDING NEW OR REMODELING. SO BUT APPRECIATE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT AND THE THOUGHTS COUNCIL HERE'S ONE I DON'T THINK WE CAME TO A CONSENSUS ON MR. JOHNSON THANK YOU, MAYOR.  I MEAN IF IF OTHER MEMBERS WANT TO PROVIDE I WELCOME IT BUT YEAH THEY'RE WELL AND JUST AS THE COMMISSION FEEDBACK WAS MIXED THAT'S TRUE. I THINK YOU'RE SEEING IT HERE AS.  WELL, JUST FOR THE RECORD, MR. MAYOR, I WOULD CONSIDER TO AN IMPROVEMENT. SO IF YOU WANT TO COMPROMISE ON TOO FINE WITH ME I'D PREFER THREE BUT TWO FEELS LIKE A BIG IMPROVEMENT TO WHAT WE HAVE NOW SO IF I MIGHT MAYOR JUST TO MAKE SURE I'M COUNTING CORRECTLY I WAS THERE THREE MEMBERS WHO ARE SUPPORTIVE OF OPTION THREE BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M CAPTURING THE RECORDING MY NOTES CORRECTLY.  COUNCILMEMBER CARTER I'M WAITING. YEAH, YEAH. NO I HAVEN'T. I'M KIND OF BECAUSE WAVERING I FEEL LIKE EVERYBODY HAS BROUGHT UP VERY GOOD POINTS AND I, I HONESTLY I COULD GO WITH TWO OR THREE. I AGREE. I THINK TWO IS AT LEAST AN IMPROVEMENT BUT I THINK THAT THE CHALLENGES ASSOCIATED WITH THREE ARE ALSO LEGITIMATE AND SO I DON'T KNOW I'M WAVERING A LITTLE BIT. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S VERY HELPFUL TO YOU.  SHOULD WE AS A COUNCIL SHOULD WE SHOULD WE ALL CAN WE MEET IN THE MIDDLE AT TWO AND AT LEAST GIVE STAFF DIRECTION TO HEAD AS WE AS IT SAYS THERE THE LAST THREE WORDS OF THE IMPORTANT PART NUMBER TWO SUBJECT TO STANDARDS AND THE STANDARDS WILL BE THE IMPORTANT PART OF THIS WHOLE CONVERSATION.  DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO EVERYBODY ?  I THINK A COMPROMISE NOBODY'S HAPPY IS THE PERFECT COMPROMISE. SO SO EXACTLY.  THANK YOU, MARIANNE. WHAT I THINK WHAT WE CAN ENDEAVOR TO DO IS AS WE BRING AN ORDINANCE FOR YOU THROUGH A PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS, WE CAN ALSO TRY CREATE SOME GRAPHICS OR SIMULATIONS OF KIND OF WHAT THAT MEANS AND FOR EXISTING PROPERTIES AND I'M JUST TO TRY AND PUT THAT VISUAL CUE TO IT AS WELL BUT NO THANK YOU. I THINK THAT'S GOOD DIRECTION FOR NOW.  UM IF I CAN QUICKLY TOUCH ON THAT WE HAVE BEEN ENGAGING WITH VARIOUS MEMBERS OF THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY ON THIS PROCESS. OF COURSE WE DO OUR LET'S TALK BLOOMINGTON AND WE HAVE A SURVEY THIS IS SOME THIS IS A POINT WHERE I WANT TO POINT BACK TO WOLFE AGAIN IS THAT I THINK THE PORT AUTHORITY IN THEIR EXPANDED ROLE IN SUPPORT OF SMALL BUSINESS WANT TO CONTINUE THESE COMMUNICATION PIPELINES AND KEEP THEM OPEN ON AN ONGOING BASIS AS OPPOSED TO JUST ADDRESSING ISSUES ON A ONE OFF OR A WORKPLAN HERE AND THERE.  AND SO I GIVE KUDOS TO BARB AND THE OTHER PORT STAFF HOLLY TO SUPPORT SOMETHING AKIN TO A MISCELLANEOUS ISSUES ORDINANCE WHERE THEY LOOK AT VARIOUS THINGS THAT MIGHT COME UP ON AN ANNUAL BASIS TO EVALUATE WITH THEIR OTHER COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS WHETHER SOME TWEAK OR CHANGE MAKES SOME SENSE SO THAT THAT'S KIND OF TOUCHING ON THE SURVEY COMPONENT WE'VE CERTAINLY BEEN TALKING WITH DIRECTLY WITH SOME INTERESTED PARTIES AS I MENTIONED, DAKOTA CASSON DATED A ROUNDTABLE WITH SOME ARCHITECTS TO TALK ABOUT EXTERIOR BUILDING MATERIALS AND PAINTING STAFF PRESENTED OUR DE BLOOMINGTON CHAMBER EVENTS TO KIND OF GET THE WORD OUT ON THIS AS WELL AS THE PLANNING MANAGER MARK YARD SPOKE ABOUT THIS PROJECT THE PORT'S ANNUAL BROKER BREAKFAST SO WHAT THE COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE COMMUNITY SO I FEEL LIKE WE'VE BEEN GETTING THE WORD OUT PRETTY WELL ABOUT THIS EFFORT AND THEN JUST OUTLINE OUR NEXT STEPS. WE HAVE OUR STUDY SESSION EVENING WILL LEAN IN AND APPRECIATE YOUR FEEDBACK AND PREPARE ORDINANCE AND WE'RE ENDEAVORING TO BRING SOMETHING BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION MARCH AND WE'LL BE BACK IN FRONT OF YOU IN APRIL OF THIS YEAR ASSUMING NO DELAYS. SO I MENTIONED THE CONTINUING ENGAGEMENT WITH THE PORT AUTHORITY STAFF.  SO THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE FOR YOU THIS EVENING. THANK YOU, MR. JOHNSON.  THAT'S SOMEBODY ELSE. HOW DO YOU WANT TO PUT A BOW ON THIS WITH SOME OF YOUR YEAH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. JUST ABSOLUTELY THIS IS GREAT FIRST OFF THANK YOU STAFF I YOU YOU LISTEN TO COUNSEL YOU'VE HEARD THE CONCERNS FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT WE'VE BEEN ECHOING UP HERE AND YOU BROUGHT BACK REAL POSITIVE CHANGES SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH BY THE WAY CONGRATS NICK MR. JOHNSON ON YOUR POTENTIAL OR YOUR NEW GIG.  WE'LL MISS YOU, GLENN, BUT THANK YOU FOR STEPPING IN IN SUCH A BIG WAY ON THIS ONE ESPECIALLY SO. SO HERE'S WHY I THINK THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TEAM CAN HELP, RIGHT? PART OF SO MANY OF WHAT THINGS THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT HAVE TO DO WITH THE FACT THAT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH BUILDINGS BUILT TO SUIT THESE TYPES OF BUSINESSES TODAY.  SO I'VE YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE STRIP MALL AT PENN AND 90TH FOR EXAMPLE, RIGHT. WE HAVE WE HAVE A GREAT RESTAURANTS IN THERE.  WE HAVE KENNY IN HIS ROAST BEEF SHOP. WE HAVE THE FOLKS AT COTU AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT. IF IF YOU WANTED TO TAKE THE VACANT SPACE RIGHT NEXT TO IT, YOU'D GO THROUGH THE WE JUST DESCRIBED TO TRY TO GET THAT EVEN THOUGH A RESTAURANT SITTING RIGHT NEXT TO IT WHY WOULDN'T THE PEOPLE WHO THAT OWN THAT STRIP MALL BUILD THAT TO SUIT AND LET LET US GO NUTS ON GETTING THEM SOME SOME SOME RENTALS YOU KNOW SOME BY COMING IN AND WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TEAM TO SAY HERE ARE THE STANDARDS PUT THEM IN AND WE CAN HELP YOU LIKE GET TENANTS BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE LIKE THE WONDERFUL PEOPLE DIDN'T WIN OUR HATCH BLOOMINGTON CHALLENGE FOR EXAMPLE WHO WANT TO WHO WANT PUT A RESTAURANT OR A BUSINESS IN THE CITY BUT WE DON'T HAVE WE DON'T WE DON'T THAT ENGINE DOESN'T WORK AND I'M NOT SAYING IT'S OUR FAULT NOT AT ALL I'M NOT BLAMING ANYBODY BUT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT KIND OF THING HAPPEN.  IF THESE STANDARDS ARE SO IMPORTANT TO US, WHY AREN'T WE MAKING SURE THAT THIS STUFF IS BEING BUILT SO THAT WHEN THESE PEOPLE COME WE KNOW WE HAVE A PLACE FOR THEM BECAUSE THE I KNOW YOU ASKED THAT QUESTION ABOUT HOW MANY PEOPLE WE'VE LOST.  I ONLY KNOW OF THREE BUT ALL THREE OF THEM CITED PARTICULAR ISSUE OR A COMBINATION OF THESE ISSUES AS THE REASON BECAUSE WHAT THEY COULD DO THEY COULD GO TO A DINER OR EDEN PRAIRIE AND FIND IT ALREADY FOR THEM AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO TAKE ON THE EXPENSE. AND SO MY COMMENT IS USING THIS IN AND OF ITSELF THIS IS GREAT WORK AND.  I THINK WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A LOT OF HEADWAY BUT I THINK THERE'S THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY US TO THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX HERE A LITTLE BIT AND AND WORK WITH OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT THE REAL ESTATE DEVELOPERS AND THE BROKERS TO TELL THEM THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES HERE. IF YOU WOULD INSTALL SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT SOLVES THE PROBLEM. FOR EXAMPLE COUNCILMEMBER MILLER THAT YOU MENTIONED WHICH IS LIKE HOW DO YOU GO FROM BIGGER TO SMALLER? WELL IF THE IF THE ACTUAL BUILDER WOULD TAKE ON THE WORK OF THAT THOUSAND GALLON EXTERNAL GREASE INTERCEPTOR IN THERE THESE PEOPLE WOULDN'T HAVE TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM AND IT COULD CHANGE HANDS 95 TIMES AND IT WOULDN'T MATTER BECAUSE THE THING IS THERE BECAUSE THAT'S OUR STANDARD AND SO IT WOULD BE WONDERFUL TO SEE THAT KIND WORK AND I'M I'M I'M ENCOURAGING THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TEAM TO THE EXTENT THAT THEY CAN TO KIND OF TAKE THAT ON AND THINK ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I THINK IT WOULD SOLVE A LOT OF THESE PROBLEMS I FEEL LIKE THE BURDEN PUTTING THE BURDEN ON THE PERSON WHO WANTS TO OPEN THE RESTAURANT IS NOT REALLY FAIR RIGHT WHEN ALL THEY'RE LOOKING FOR IS A PLACE THAT'S READY FOR THEM TO OPEN THE RESTAURANT AND WE'RE SAYING NO, NO, YOU HAVE TO MAKE IT BECOME A RESTAURANT BEFORE YOU'RE ALLOWED TO OPEN IT. AND THAT FEELS WEIRD TO ME ESPECIALLY WHEN WE HAVE THE DEVELOPER SITTING THERE GOING I'LL TAKE WHAT YOU CAN GIVE ME BECAUSE THE SECOND YOU LEAVE NOW I'VE GOT A READY MADE RESTAURANT THEY GET ALL THE BENEFIT NOT PUTTING ANY AN EFFORT IN TO MAKE IT POSSIBLE AND THAT'S JUST THAT FEEL DOESN'T FEEL VERY SMALL BUSINESS FRIENDLY TO ME AND AGAIN NOT OUR FAULT BUT SOMETHING MAYBE WE CAN WORK ON WITH THAT GROUP OF PEOPLE. THANKS THAT WAS MY COMMENT. APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO CHIME IN ON ANYTHING IF NOT THANK YOU MR. JOHNSON. WE WILL WRAP ITEM 5.1 AND NOW MOVE TO ITEM 5.2 FEATURING MR. NICK JOHNSON. GOOD EVENING. WELCOME. YOU'RE STUCK YOU'RE STUCK WITH ME. I'M SORRY.  SO YEAH I INVITE VICE CHAIR COOK DAN COOKED AND PHIL COOKED IN IF YOU DON'T KNOW PHIL HE'S SERVED ON OUR COMMISSION FOR I THINK FOUR AND A HALF, FIVE YEARS OR AND A HALF OR A HALF YEARS. SO THANK YOU FOR PHIL AND HE'S ALSO BEING A LITTLE BIT OF A HITTER TONIGHT FOR ABBY ALBRECHT WHO UNFORTUNATELY WAS A LITTLE BIT ILL AND COULDN'T MAKE IT THIS EVENING. BUT THANKS TO PHIL AND THANKS TO ALL OF OUR PLANNING COMMISSIONERS WHO ATTEND ALL OF OUR MEETINGS AND PROVIDE SOUND FEEDBACK AND REALLY GRANULAR ANALYSIS AND PROVIDE REALLY EXCELLENT PERSPECTIVES JUST AS COMMUNITY RESIDENTS ON THESE DIFFERENT CHANGES THAT WE'RE MAKING IN TERMS OF HOW WE REGULATE LAND USE AND OUR ZONING CODE . SO WITH THAT, PHIL IS GOING TO HELP ME PRESENT THE PLANNING COMMISSION WORK PLAN FOR THIS YEAR. YES. OUR 2025 PLANNING COMMISSION WORK PLAN BEFORE WE GET STARTED I DID WANT TO MAKE SORT A CALL TO THE PUBLIC AS YOU PROBABLY HAVE MORE VIEWERS THAN WE DO BUT SOME OF THE KIND OF FEEDBACK WE GET AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND I'M SURE YOU HEAR SAME THING IS THAT I JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS ITEM WHY DIDN'T I KNOW ABOUT IT SOONER. MY NEIGHBOR JUST TOLD ME ABOUT IT YESTERDAY AND.  I DON'T FEEL PREPARED TO SPEAK TO IT A GREAT WAY TO BE PREPARED FOR SOME OF THOSE ITEMS ESPECIALLY SOME OF THE MORE CONTROVERSIAL ONES IS TO FOLLOW THE PLANNING COMMISSION . WE SEE THOSE ITEMS BEFORE YOU ALL DO AND IN FACT WE SEE SOME ITEMS THAT YOU ALL NEVER SEE BECAUSE WE HAVE FINAL DECISION MAKING AUTHORITY. SO IF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN CAUGHT OFF GUARD IN THE PAST OR FEEL A LITTLE UNPREPARED OR WISH THEY JUST MORE INFORMED I VERY MUCH ENCOURAGE THEM TO FOLLOW THE PLANNING COMMISSION.  WE MEET 2 TO 3 THURSDAYS A MONTH RIGHT HERE IN THE CHAMBERS. WE'RE ON TV, WE'RE ON THE YOUTUBE CHANNEL. WE'RE THERE FOR YOU. WE ALSO HOLD PUBLIC HEARINGS LIKE YOU ALL DO. I ALWAYS SAY THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS THE LOWEST FORM OF GOVERNMENT. THERE'S NOBODY BELOW US BUT THE BENEFIT TO THAT IS THAT WE HAVE THE MOST TIME TO SPEND ON THESE APPLICATIONS HAVE EVERY ONE OF THEM THEIR FULL ATTENTION WHICH WE DO NOT HAVE CONCERNS AGENDAS WE GIVE EVERYTHING IT'S FULL OF TENSION AND SO YOU WANT TO GET YOUR VOICE HEARD. A GREAT PLACE TO START IS THE PLANNING COMMISSION.  SO MOVING ON TO THE PRESENTATION AND WE'LL START WITH THE 2024 PLANNING COMMISSION ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS WE'VE WRAPPED UP THE YEAR. THERE'S A LOT ON THIS SLIDE SO WE'VE KIND OF SET IT UP LIKE A GOOD MIX TAPE. OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO START HIGH WITH PLANS AND THE REZONINGS AND WE'RE GOING TO MELLOW OUT A LITTLE BIT WITH THE CODE AMENDMENTS AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO FINISH YOU OFF HIGH AND STRONG WITH THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEWS. SO WE'LL START WITH THE PLANNING AND REZONINGS IN CONCERT WITH THE LYNDALE AVENUE RETROFIT PLAN AND LYNDALE WE DID SOME PROACTIVE REZONINGS 94TH STREET MOVING SOME OF THE ZONES TO BEFORE.  WE ALSO LOOKED AT OUR ELECTRICAL VEHICLE INFRASTRUCTURE PLAN YEAR REDUCING THAT SPEED LIMIT TO 25 MILES AN HOUR ON OUR LOCAL STREETS AS PART OF RESIDENT AND SORT OF SORT OF OUR USUAL THINGS TO WITH THE PLANNING PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PLAN AND ALSO THE ROSA DEVELOPMENT PERFORM A DISCUSSION THAT'S OVER A PARK AND FLY A LOT OF CONVERSATION WHAT'S GOING ON OVER THERE THE TIFF REVIEW AT 700 AMERICAN 700 AMERICAN IS AMERICAN AND LYNDALE AND A WELL NEEDED REVIEW OF THE SOUTH LOOP DISTRICT PLAN WHICH WE'RE STILL IN PROGRESS ON BUT WELL OVERDUE AND WE'RE EXCITED TO BE REVIEWING THAT IN THE CODE AMENDMENTS CATEGORY SOME OF THE HEAVY HITTERS HERE WERE THE SIGN CODE ADOPTION THE OTHERS THE OPPORTUNITY HOUSING ORDINANCE WE LOOKED AT THAT AGAIN AS WE DO ALMOST EVERY YEAR SOME REVIEW OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL STANDARDS ORDINANCES AND SHORT TERM RENTALS A LOT OF HOUSING THINGS LIKE SHORT TERM RENTALS THIS YEAR WE TOOK A LOOK AT ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION JUST LIKE YOU ALL DID WE'LL MOVE THEM TO THE THIRD COLUMN HERE WHICH IS OUR DEVELOPMENT REVIEWS SOME SOME BIG PROJECTS THIS YEAR OF COURSE THE KENNEDY AND JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL STADIUM PROJECTS GOT A LOT OF ATTENTION IN THE COMMUNITY BUT WE'RE EXCITED THAT THOSE ARE PROCEEDING FORWARD EVER APARTMENTS THAT'S THE NEW NAME THE APARTMENTS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF 494 THAT'S BETWEEN EAST BUSH LAKE AND WEST BUSH LAKE THEY ARE OUT THE GROUND IF YOU HAVE TURNED YOUR HEAD ALL THE WAY TO THE SIDE AS YOU'RE DRIVING ON THE HIGHWAY THERE YOU'LL SEE SOME FOUNDATIONS COMING OUT OF THE GROUND WHICH IS EXCITING BECAUSE THAT'S BLOOMINGTON CENTRAL STATION PHASE FIVE THAT'S ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THAT SITE.  THEY ARE NOT OUT OF THE GROUND YET BUT I IMAGINE THEY WILL BE IN THE SPRING.  WE'LL SEE. WE'LL SEE. OKAY. WE'LL SEE LUTHER KIYA, THAT'S ONE WE JUST SAW A FEW WEEKS AGO WHEN YOU ALL DID AS WELL. LUTHER KING COMING IN DICK'S HOUSE SPORT THAT'S OVER ITS OLD TOWN CENTER. A LOT OF DISCUSSION THERE BUT WE'RE PROCEEDING FORWARD THERE. FULL TILT TAVERN ON NORMANDALE BOULEVARD, THE BRYANT LAKE PARK RENOVATIONS AND MANY CONDITIONAL PERMITS AND VARIOUS APPLICATION VARIANCE APPLICATIONS AS WELL.  MOVING ON THEN TO WHAT WE'RE WHAT WE'VE GOT COMING UP HERE SO AND WHY WE'RE HERE SO WHY WE'RE HERE IS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS REQUIRED SUBMIT TO YOU ALL OUR ANNUAL WORK PLAN AND THAT'S NIC WILL BE WALKING THROUGH HERE IN JUST A SECOND ON THAT ANNUAL WORK PLAN TOTAL PROJECTS OVER 3400 HOURS OF STAFF TIME DEDICATED TO THAT. 21 OF THOSE PROJECTS WILL BE LED BY PLANNING DIVISION STAFF AND 13 OF THOSE 30 ARE CARRYOVER PROJECTS FROM 2024 THAT WE'RE STILL WORKING ON NINE PROJECTS LISTED AS POTENTIAL FOR 2026. SO A LITTLE BIT IN FLUX THERE BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT 26 AND HAVE SHOWN NINE PROJECTS THERE AND THE PLANNING DIVISION REMAINS CONSTANT FOR 2025. BUT AS WE TOUCHED ON IN THE APPLICATION THE PLANNING MANAGER TRANSITION WILL BE TAKING PLACE 2025 AS MR. MARKET GUARD DRIVES OFF TO ENTER THE SUNSET AT 25 MILES AN HOUR OF COURSE AND ARE WELCOMING IN MR. JOHNSON AS A NEW PLANNING MANAGER WHICH WE'RE VERY EXCITED SO YEAH. THANK YOU PHIL AND I WANTED TO DO AN ARTICLE AND BUT HE MADE ME SIGN AN AGREEMENT THAT REQUIRES ME NOT TO DO THAT BUT MAYBE THERE'S MORE OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT LATER.  YEAH WE JUST WANTED TO PUT THE KIND OF AWARENESS OR, THE ASTERISK ON IT THAT YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOSING A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE AND CONTINUITY IN TERMS OF THE LEADERSHIP OF OUR DIVISION. SO IT'S KIND OF THAT YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW KIND OF THING.  AND SO JUST PUTTING THAT CAVEAT ON IT THAT YOU KNOW,  TRANSITION MAY IMPACT STAFF DEDICATION TO LONG RANGE PROJECTS IN UNANTICIPATED WAYS WE WILL HAVE AN EMPTY CHAIR FOR A BRIEF PERIOD OF TIME BUT HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET THAT FILLED SOON WITH SOMEONE WHO'S FANTASTIC AND CONTINUES TO PUSH THIS PROGRAM FORWARD.  SO YEAH, SIMILAR TO LAST YEAR WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GROUP OUR PROJECTS IN KIND THESE FIVE BUCKETS IT WAS WELL RECEIVED BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN I REMEMBER SO WE'RE GOING TO GIVE IT ONE MORE TRY AND MAYBE WE'LL IT OR CHANGE IT UP NEXT YEAR. WE'LL SEE BUT SO YEAH AND IN THE BUCKETS OF HOUSING SO CERTAINLY AS VICE CHAIR COOKTOWN MENTIONED THERE'S A NUMBER OF CARRYOVER PROJECTS THAT WE'RE MAKING GOOD PROGRESS ON. A COUPLE OF NEW PROJECTS I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THOUGH THE FENCE ORDINANCE.  I KNOW THAT THIS HAS BEEN DISCUSSED AT THE COUNCIL LEVEL A FEW TIMES THE CORNER LOT STUDY STANDARD SO BLOOMINGTON EFFECTIVELY FOR ITS LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AREAS REQUIRES TWO FRONT YARD SETBACKS. YOU KNOW THERE'S A MIX OF COMMUNITIES THAT WILL EITHER TAKE THAT APPROACH OR HAVE REDUCED SETBACKS OR HAVE OTHER OF ZONING PERFORMANCE STANDARDS THAT RELATE TO CORNER LOTS. AND THIS CAN KIND OF CASCADING UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES IN TERMS OF LOT SIZE SETBACKS ,OTHER THINGS THAT CAN INFORM DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL AND HOUSING CREATION. SO IT'S A GOOD THING TO LOOK AT. IT'S BEEN SOME TIMES THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT OUR HEIGHT LIMITS MAP SO FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW WE HAVE A MAP THAT ESTABLISHES WHAT THE MAXIMUM BUILDING STRUCTURE HEIGHT IS ACROSS THE COMMUNITY AND IT'S BEEN SOME YEARS SINCE WE'VE LOOKED AT IT. THERE'S ALSO SOME POTENTIAL THERE AND THEN A GOOD INFORMATIONAL ITEM. I KNOW THAT THAT'S BEEN A TOPIC OF AT THE COUNCIL RECENTLY BY THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS SO ESPECIALLY THOSE HAVE LARGE CAPITAL NEEDS OR STRUCTURES ASSOCIATED WITH THEM.  WE'RE GOING TO TRY AND GATHER SOME SOME DATA AND JUST PROVIDE A CURRENT SNAPSHOT AS OF 2025 AS TO KIND OF WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED, WHAT TYPES OF STRUCTURES THEY HAVE AND WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE GENERALLY MOVING INTO THE BUSINESS AND ECONOMY.  WHAT WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT I'LL HIGHLIGHT THE NOT CARRYOVER PROJECTS PARKING REQUIREMENTS SO OBVIOUSLY CHANGING TRAVEL BEHAVIOR AROUND THE KIND OF STEMMING FROM THE PANDEMIC BUT ALSO FROM YOU KNOW ONLINE RETAIL RETAILERS AND DELIVERY VEHICLES AND THOSE OF THINGS HAS CHANGED A LOT OF PARKING SUPPLY AND PARKING IN A LOT OF OUR COMMUNITIES REALLY BUT SUBURBAN DEFINITELY SO WE WANT TO LOOK AT THAT COMMERCIAL VEHICLE PARKING IN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS. THIS IS ONE OF THE AREAS THAT IS A VERY COMMON CODE ENFORCEMENT SCENARIO AND WITH KIND OF INCREASING PREVALENCE OF PEOPLE TAKING COMPANY VEHICLES AND TAKE HOME VEHICLES, I NEED TO REVIEW THOSE STANDARDS.  WHEN WE ADOPTED THE SAME CODE RECOMMENDED TO YOU TO DO A ONE YEAR REVIEW IN TERMS OF HOW IT WENT AND WILL BE BRINGING SOME MODEST AMENDMENTS TO OUR SIGN CODE WITH THAT ONE YEAR OF DATA OF WHAT WE'VE DURING THAT TIME INCENTIVIZING ART CODE AMENDMENTS.  THIS ONE ENCOURAGED BY THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT I WANT TO SHOUT HER OUT FOR THIS ONE AND THE COMMERCIAL VEHICLE ACTUALLY AS WELL BUT SEEING HOW WAYS WE CAN KIND OF INCENTIVIZE MORE ART INSTALLATIONS IN OUR DEVELOPMENT IN TERMS OF HOW OUR ZONING CODE INTERACTS WITH THEM AS YOU KNOW, WE ARE UNDERWAY IN THE AIRPORT PARKING FACILITIES STUDY AND MORATORIUM I BELIEVE THAT EXPIRES AND OCTOBER AROUND THAT TIMELINE OR AT LEAST WE'RE IN THE OF DOING THAT SO I WANT TO ADD THAT TO THE WORK PLAN YEAH THOSE ARE THE THINGS I'LL FOCUS ON TRANSPORTATION WE CONTINUE TO DO THE AMERICAN BOULEVARD TRANSIT WAY I KNOW KIRK ROBERTS THE CONSULTANT ADELE HALL WERE HERE RECENTLY TO GET YOUR THOUGHTS ON AMERICAN BOULEVARD CORRIDOR SO THAT CONTINUES TO GO FOR THE NORMAN DALE AN 84TH STREET PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE PROJECT THAT'S AN ELEMENT OF THE NORMAN DALE LAKES OFFICE DISTRICT PLAN AND AGAIN JUST ADDITIONAL TRANSPORTATION PROJECT SUPPORT AND OUR TRAFFIC AND ENGINEERING IS ALSO COMMITTED TO DELIVERING ON THE LIVABILITY OF LOCAL STREETS PROJECT THAT'S KIND OF EVALUATING THEIR POLICIES AROUND STREET RECONSTRUCTION TERMS OF WHEN THEY CONSTRUCT SIDEWALKS OR NARROW STREETS OR KIND OF WHAT STANDARD TEMPLATE IS AND WHAT THEIR OPPORTUNITIES ARE IN TERMS OF THE ENVIRONMENT WE ARE RECOMMENDING AS I'M LED BY PLANNING STAFF BUT SUPPORTING AN EFFORT TO DO NATIVE HABITAT AND WILDLIFE EDUCATIONAL INITIATIVES. THIS KIND OF BUILDS ON CURRENT PARKS AND REC PROGRAMING AS WELL AS OTHER NATURAL RESOURCES EFFORTS UNDERWAY.  PLANNING STAFF ARE CERTAINLY GOING TO BE AVAILABLE TO SUPPORT THE URBAN FOREST MASTER PLAN AS WELL AS THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN. THESE ARE ALL DIFFERENT ELEMENTS ARE KIND OF RUNNING ON A PARALLEL TRACK TO HOPEFULLY REALLY IMPROVE THOSE AREAS.  AND THEN JUST IN THE CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT BUCKET THE BIG THING IS STARTING PREPARE FOR THE 2050 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SO LATER THIS YEAR I BELIEVE IN MARCH THE MET COUNCIL IS GOING TO BE ADOPTING THEIR REGIONAL 2050 PLAN AND SO THAT STARTS OFF THE PROCESS OF OF CITIES KIND OF GETTING ORGANIZED AND BEING THOUGHTFUL AROUND HOW TO DESIGN A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROCESS THAT'S VERY FORWARD IN TERMS OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND REALLY CAPTURING WHAT THAT COMMUNITY VISION IS BUT ALSO REALLY THOUGHTFUL ABOUT THE SCHEDULE IN TERMS OF HOW TO DELIVER ALL THE VARIOUS ELEMENTS THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON HAS TO ADOPT ITS NEXT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BY THE FALL OF 2028. SO IT'S REALLY JUST RESERVING STAFF TIME TO START TO THINK ABOUT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND BROADER STAFFING SCHEDULE FOR THAT EFFORT.  AND THEN WE'RE STILL WE'RE GETTING CLOSER ON A PIECE STUDY OF OUR DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION AND OF COURSE WE HAVE OUR VERY, VERY POPULAR ANNUAL MISCELLANEOUS ORDINANCE WHICH ALWAYS GETS GOOD DISCUSSION THIS IS WHAT WE'RE THINKING IN TERMS OF PROJECT PRIORITY AND TIMING KIND OF FOLLOWS SIMILAR TEMPLATES OF YOU KNOW FRONT LOADING SOME OF THE WORK THAT'S ALREADY UNDERWAY AND GETTING INTO SOME OF THESE SECOND PRIORITY PROJECTS IN THE LATTER HALF OF THE YEAR. AGAIN WE TRY AND SPACE OUT THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL PUBLIC HEARINGS AND STUDY  SESSIONS SO THAT IT'S ALL AS SMOOTH AS POSSIBLE IN TERMS OF YOU KNOW, IN CONSIDERATION OF YOUR CAPACITY. THE OTHER THING I WOULD MENTION AND WE HAVE A SLIDE OF IT BUT WE ALSO PUT TOGETHER THAT A SUPPLEMENTAL MATRIX WHICH REALLY IDENTIFIES TRYING TO GET IN FRONT OF OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND OPPORTUNITIES COLLABORATION PLANNING STAFFING HAS BEEN TO A FEW HRA MEETINGS AND PORT AUTHORITY MEETINGS AND SUSTAINABILITY SO IT'S REALLY TRYING TO JUST BUILD THOSE BRIDGES. WE DO THAT AS STAFF OF COURSE BUT DOING SO WITH THE GROUPS AND AND WE HELD ONE CONCURRENT MEETING WITH THE HRA BOARD THIS YEAR AND MY JUST REFLECTION OF THAT IS THAT THEY VERY MUCH ENJOY INTERACTING WITH ONE ANOTHER AND FEEL CAN PROBABLY SPEAK TO THAT BETTER THAN ME BUT I THINK THOSE ARE AHEAD AND DO HAVE GOOD BENEFITS.  SO THE SIMILAR QUESTIONS AS THE LAST YEAR OR SO BUT ARE THERE ANY PROJECTS THAT YOU BELIEVE SHOULD BE REMOVED OR DELAYED FROM THE 25 OR 26 LIST? ARE THERE ANY PROJECTS THAT SHOULD BE ADDED AND IF SO YOU KNOW WHAT SHOULD POTENTIALLY BE REMOVED ASSOCIATED THAT I DO HAVE WE TRY AND KIND OF MATCH HOURS FOR HOURS IF FEASIBLE AND IT'S AN ART. IT'S NOT A SCIENCE. I CANNOT SAY IT'S A SCIENCE. IT'S AN ART BUT WE TRY AND DO OUR BEST WITH THAT ISSUE AND THEN REPRIORITIZATION IS THERE ANY FIRST PRIORITY OR SECONDARY PRIORITY PROJECTS THAT SHOULD BE REPRIORITIZED IN SOME WAY BUT STAND FOR QUESTIONS AND FILLS AVAILABLE TO PROVIDE THE COMMISSIONER PERSPECTIVE AS WELL? VERY GOOD. THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN. I APPRECIATE IT.  COUNCIL INPUT HERE COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, A QUICK QUESTION I DIDN'T NOTICE WOULD YOU MIND GOING BACK TO THE WORK PLAN IS THE MATRIX THERE REAL QUICK?  I DON'T SEE I DON'T SEE ANY ADDITIONAL ITEM RELATED LYNDALE AVENUE AND I WAS JUST KIND OF CURIOUS ABOUT THAT. I WE DID THE STUFF LAST YEAR WHICH IS GREAT BUT I DON'T SEE ANYTHING MOVING FORWARD HERE AS WE CONTINUE TO TRY TO DO THAT RETROFIT. I'M CURIOUS IF THAT'S ON PURPOSE. MAYOR COUNCILOR AT CENTRAL THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. SO STILL HAVE AN INTERNAL WORKGROUP THAT MEETS QUARTERLY TO TO WORK THROUGH ISSUES RELATED TO THE RETROFIT AND CERTAINLY WHENEVER THERE IS DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL THAT'S YOU KNOW UNDER CONSIDERATION OR JUST IDEAS WE TRY AND KEEP GROUP ALL INFORMED THE NEXT WE'VE DONE A LOT OF THE ZONING ELEMENTS THE PLAN THE NEXT REAL PIECE IS DOING A CORRIDOR STUDY IS TO DEAL WITH THE FACILITY ITSELF AND THEY'LL AVENUE AND THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER I WOULDN'T SAY IT'S WRITTEN IN PERMANENT SHARPIE BUT IT'S HIS YOU'LL NOTICE IT IS OF THE 2026 LIST TO DO THE PLAN AND THAT'S JUST A FUNCTION OF FUNDING BUT YEAH THAT'S OUR PLAN AS OF THIS POINT IS TO DO THAT CORRIDOR STUDY IN 2026. THANK YOU. SECOND QUESTION THE THE HOW MUCH OF YOUR HOW MUCH TIME IS NOT ALLOTTED HERE IN THE SENSE THAT LIKE NORMAL NORMAL DEVELOPMENTS THAT COULD COME UP THAT NOT YOU DON'T HAVE AN EYE BEAT ON TODAY HOW LIKELY ARE THEY TO BE ABLE TO BE WORKED INTO PLANNING ETC. SO FOR EXAMPLE I'M MAKING THIS UP BUT IF THE FONG'S RESTAURANT PLOT WAS SOLD RIGHT AND SOMEBODY CAME WITH THE PLAN YOU WOULDN'T NECESSARILY HAVE IT ON HERE TODAY.  YOU'D WANT TO WORK ON THAT. HOW DOES THAT GET FIT INTO THIS PLAN? THANKS, CHANCELLOR WILSON ALSO THANKS FOR THOSE QUESTIONS. WE DO HAVE STAFF ARE MORE OPERATIONALLY DEDICATED TO DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND SO WHERE THE IMPACT CAN BE TO THE WORK PLAN IS THAT IF THERE'S SO MUCH DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY OCCURRING THAT YOU HAVE TO PULL IN MORE OF YOUR STAFF, YOUR PLANNERS WHO HAVE THE ABILITY AND TECHNICAL EXPERTIZE TO DO DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND ARE EFFECTIVE IN GETTING IT AS WELL.  BUT WHEN YOU HAVE TO PULL IN THOSE ADDITIONAL RESOURCES TO HELP SUPPORT THAT BECAUSE OF THE WORKLOAD. SO AS YOU KNOW WE'RE SUBJECT TO 620 DAY ACTION CLOCKS AND ALL DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS. SO THAT'S NOT THE IT'S NOT A DISCRETIONARY TASK FOR WHAT WE NEED TO DO. WE HAVE TO PROCESS AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS TO REVIEW A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME FOR APPLICATIONS THAT YOU REVIEW AS WELL.  SO IT'S JUST A MATTER OF DEPLOYING RESOURCES THE WAY THAT WE CREATED AS WE TRY AND CREATE A MODEL ON THE BASIS THAT HALF OF OUR PLANNING STAFF EFFECTIVELY ARE RESERVED FOR LONG RANGE PLANNING AND SO IF IN A YEAR WHERE THERE'S HEAVY DEVELOPMENT REVIEW IT'S GOING TO TAKE FROM THAT BUCKET A YEAR WHERE IT'S A LITTLE BIT SLOWER, IT GIVES US MORE OPPORTUNITY TO DEPLOY THOSE RESOURCES TO A LONG RANGE PLANNING. SO THAT'S THAT'S KIND BASICALLY HOW IT'S BUILT. COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN COUNCILMEMBER NELSON COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SO JUST REAL QUICK I KNOW THAT THIS BODY HAD HAD CONVERSATIONS OR THEIR QUESTIONS ABOUT THE AMERICAN DISTRICT PLAN WHILE I WASN'T ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE I WANTED TO JUST BE SURE THAT THAT THAT LANDED SOMEWHERE. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S WAY ON THE ON THE LIST MAYBE THERE'S A THIRD TIER LIST OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT BUT I DO KNOW THAT THERE WAS A NUMBER COUNCILMEMBERS THAT HAD WANTED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT PENDING AMERICAN DISTRICT PLAN.  MR. JOHNSON MAYOR COUNCILOR ALONE AND I'D HAVE TO KNOW MORE OF THE SPECIFICS I'M NOT FAMILIAR MAYBE WITH I'M PROBABLY THE FIRST PERSON TO TALK ABOUT IT BECAUSE I THINK YEAH SO IF SOMEBODY ELSE WANTED TO BRING IT UP I JUST WANTED TO I KNOW WE HAD TALKED ABOUT IT I WANTED TO JUST WE'RE RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW AND I JUST WANTED TO BE SURE THAT WE DIDN'T MISS THAT. SO THAT'S MARY NELSON JUST FOLLOWING UP WITH COUNCILMEMBER WOMEN'S COMMENT ,MY THOUGHT ON THAT COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO MAY DISAGREE WITH ME ON THAT BUT MY THOUGHT IS THAT WAS JUST SOMETHING THAT WE WERE GOING TO GET BACK INFORMATION AND THEN DECIDE IF WE WANTED TO GO FURTHER WITH IT.  BUT I DIDN'T KNOW THAT TO BE A FULL PLANNING WORK PLAN STUDY TYPE ITEM IS THAT YOUR OKAY READERS THINK LOOKING TO GET WHERE IS THAT YOU KNOW WE HAD I THINK IT WAS THE LUTHER KING DEVELOPMENT WAS THAT THE ONE AND WE'RE LOOKING TO GET SOME MORE INFORMATION ON BECAUSE DOESN'T SEEM TO QUITE FIT RIGHT IN THERE SO I THINK AT LEAST FROM MY PERSPECTIVE I CAN WORK WITH SAFFIRE AND HER A CITY ATTORNEY OR A CITY ATTORNEY NOT YOU DON'T TO WORRY ABOUT IT. I'M LIKE OKAY SO OUR OUR CITY SO SO NO IT'S JUST AN ORDINANCE THAT'S FINE SO WE'LL ALL GET MORE INFORMATION OUT TO THAT SO THAT YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND WHAT I WAS ASKING FOR AND I THINK SAME SO THE QUESTION THAT I HAD THERE IF I MIGHT CONTINUE PLEASE WAS REGARDING THE H H HIGHWAY PLAN AND I THAT THAT MAY DOVETAIL POTENTIALLY WITH OUR LEGISLATIVE AGENDA.  WE'VE I THINK ALL RECEIVED A NUMBER OF COMMUNICATIONS WITH REGARDS TO CHALLENGES THAT A NUMBER OF WAYS FOR LARGE MULTI-FAMILY HOUSING ARE HAVING WITH REGARDS TO INSURANCE. I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE INTENT OF THIS CORRECT.  MAYOR NO, MY ONLY QUESTION WAS ANY OF THE INFORMATION AS YOU DO A STUDY OF THE OVERALL MARKET MANY WE HAVE WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE. THAT INFORMATION MAY BE GOOD FOR OUR OUR REPRESENTATIVES WHO ARE WORKING THIS ISSUE TO BE ABLE TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION. THAT'S THE ONLY THING I JUST WANTED TO CONNECT THOSE TWO DOTS AS A POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITY TO HELP SOME OF THEM BECAUSE MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS, YOU KNOW, EITHER THE FEES GO WAY UP OR THEY CAN'T GET INSURANCE BUT IF THE FEES GO WAY UP FOR THEIR INSURANCE, ALL THAT DOES IS TAKE MONEY AWAY FROM THEIR ABILITY TO MAINTAIN THOSE BUILDINGS IN THE LONG RUN. AND THEN WE RUN INTO SIMILAR ISSUES WE'VE SEEN IN THE COMMUNITY WHERE WE HAVE A BUILDING THAT WASN'T MAINTAINED OVER A LONG TIME AND TRYING TO FIND A SOLUTION FOR THOSE FOLKS. SO JUST WANT TO CONNECT THOSE TWO IF WE CAN. THANK YOU. THAT'S HELPFUL FEEDBACK OTHERS WELL IT LOOKS LIKE ONCE AGAIN THIS YEAR YOU'VE GOT A PRETTY FULL PLATE AND I APPRECIATE THE THOUGHTFUL PLANS THAT GO INTO YOUR PLANS JUST BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S IT TAKES A LOT TO CONSIDER ALL THAT WE'VE GOT GOING AND ALL THAT WE'VE GOT COMING UP AND TO HAVE THE THE CAPITAL PLAN THE COMP COMPONENT, THE HORIZON ALREADY JUST BLOWS MY MIND BECAUSE I THINK WE JUST FINISHED THE COMP PLAN DIDN'T WE AND WE'RE BACK AT IT AGAIN SO I THIS IS A SOLID PLAN FOR YOUR YOUR PROJECT TIMING PRIORITY AND AND NAVIGATING THE THE CHANGE IN LEADERSHIP WILL BE A CHALLENGE FOR FOR BUT I HAVE COMPLETE CONFIDENCE IN THE WORK THAT OUR PLANNING COMMISSION CAN DO AND THAT OUR TEAM CAN DO OTHERS THE MAYOR FOR THOSE KIND OF COMMENTS COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THANK YOU, MR..  THERE WAS ONLY ONE THING I WANTED TO POTENTIALLY CONSIDER. I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE LANDED ON IT AND SO I WANTED TO PUT ON THERE WHETHER OR NOT WE THOUGHT WE HAD RESOLVED IT OR WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE WERE GOING TO ADD.  IF YOU RECALL AND IT WAS MENTIONED A LITTLE BIT EARLIER THAT THE QUESTIONS AROUND SOUND AND MITIGATION RELATED TO MECHANICALS FOR CENTERS SPECIFICALLY I THINK THE LAST TIME WE HAD A MEANINGFUL CONVERSATION ABOUT IT WE WE I WAS PERSONALLY STATING THAT I BELIEVE THAT YOU COULD YOU COULD DEFINE A CENTER IN SUCH A WAY THAT YOU COULD GIVE SPECIAL SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS TO THAT PARTICULAR TYPE OF OF OF BUSINESS THAT MIGHT MORE MORE MIGHT NEED MORE OVERSIGHT . IT RELATES TO SOUND AND OTHER THINGS AND SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE LANDED ON THAT BUT I KNOW WE HAD DISCUSSION. THE QUESTION I WOULD ASK IS IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL HAVE MAYBE ANCILLARY BEEN LOOKING AT OR IT'S COME UP A COUPLE OF TIMES AND YOU WERE THINKING ABOUT IT AND IT BE SOMETHING WE WORK ON OR OR WOULD YOU WOULD IT BE BETTER THAT WE WAIT UNTIL WE HAVE ANOTHER DATA CENTER COMING TO US SAYING HEY, WE'D LIKE TO BUILD ONE HERE AND THEN WE MAKE A POINT OF OF OF DOING THAT WORK AS PART OF THAT DEVELOPMENT REVIEW.  I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RIGHT ANSWER IS BUT I DO THINK I THINK THE OPEN QUESTION I ALWAYS HAD WAS WELL WHY DO WE FEEL LIKE WE CAN'T DEFINE THE DATA CENTER SPECIFICALLY AND MAKE SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS FOR IT BECAUSE IT'S A PRETTY EASY IN MY MIND BUT I DON'T KNOW WHY IT I MAY NOT MAY BE OVERSIMPLIFYING IT AND I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT EITHER DON'T REMEMBER AND I AND I WOULD THINK IF IT WAS EASY TO DO IT WOULD HAVE BEEN DONE ALREADY. AND I DON'T KNOW THAT OTHER CITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY HAVE REALLY GOT THEIR ARMS AROUND WHAT THE TERM DATA CENTER MEANS AND I DON'T KNOW I DON'T KNOW WHAT I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT. YEAH SO SO AMERICANS ARE ADULTS UNDER NO WE ACTUALLY WE WE WORK ON AN ORDINANCE IN 2022 THAT YOU ALL ADOPTED THAT WE DID DEFINE DATA CENTER IT'S IN OUR ZONING CODE IT IS A DEFINED USE AND SO AND IT DOES IT IS SUBJECT TO NOISE STANDARDS AND THAT'S KIND OF POINTING BACK TO OUR NO NOISE REQUIREMENTS AROUND MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT ABOUT PLACEMENT BUT THE KEY ELEMENT OF THOSE PROVISIONS THAT WERE ADOPTED WAS BUFFERING FROM RESIDENTIAL USES SO IN EFFECT OF A NEW DATA WERE TO BE ESTABLISHED IT WOULD HAVE TO BE LOCATED IN SUCH A WAY TO BE A PRETTY FAR AWAY FROM RESIDENTIAL USES BUT I CERTAINLY CAN, YOU KNOW, GO THROUGH THE TYPICAL CHANNELS AND PROVIDE YOU KIND OF AN INFORMAL REPORT OF WHAT THOSE CODE STANDARDS ARE. AND YEAH, WE COULD TAKE THAT OFF LINE AND.  THAT'S FINE. I THINK THE ISSUE I HAD WAS THAT I THINK WE WERE ASKING DATA CENTERS TO CONFORM TO WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE CONFORMS TO AND I FELT LIKE IT NEEDED A HIGHER IT NEEDED A HIGHER STANDARD THAN THE REGULAR WHICH IS WHERE THE DEFINITION BECOMES IMPORTANT.  RIGHT. SO OKAY YEAH I'LL TAKE IT OFFLINE WITH WITH MR. JOHNSON AND THANK YOU FOR SHIRE COUNCIL ANYTHING ELSE IF NOT COUNCIL I WOULD LOOK FOR A MOTION TO ADOPT THE 2025 PLANNING COMMISSION WORK PLAN AS IT HEADS TO THE CITY COUNCIL PACKET UNTIL THIS MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER DALLESSANDRO SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER TO ADOPT THE 2025 PLANNING COMMISSION WORK PLAN NOTE FOR THE COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSE THE MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO. MR. JOHNSON THANK YOU MUCH FOR YOUR WORK AND THE ENTIRE PLANNING STAFF FILL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR BEING WITH US TONIGHT AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN YOUR LONG TERM WORK ON THE PLANNING.  THAT INSTITUTIONAL MEMORY IS JUST SO VERY VALUABLE SO WE APPRECIATE IT AND AS YOU COULD PASS OUR THANKS AND TO THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.  WELL WE'D APPRECIATE WE'LL DO THAT. MY PLEASURE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL.  COUNSEL, WE'RE MOVING ON IN THE AGENDA NOW AND WE'RE GOING MOVE ON TO A SERIES OF APPOINTMENTS THAT WE TO MAKE FOR THE COMING YEAR AND THESE ARE ANNUAL APPOINTMENTS THAT GENERALLY TAKE PLACE AT OUR FIRST COUNCIL MEETING OF THE YEAR. AND THEN THE FIRST ONE IS ITEM 5.3 OUR APPOINTMENT TO THE BLOOMINGTON FIRE DEPARTMENT RELIEF ASSOCIATION AND CURRENTLY FIRE CHIEF ULI CELE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER LAURIE ECONOMY SHOULDER AND CITY COUNCILMEMBER DUANE LOWMAN ARE EX-OFFICIO MEMBERS OF THE BLOOMINGTON FIRE DEPARTMENT RELIEF ASSOCIATION BOARD OF TRUSTEES FOR 2025 OR FOR 2024 CURRENTLY SO FOR FOR 2025 MOVING FORWARD COUNCILMEMBER LOEHMANN INTEREST IN CONTINUING ON THE RELIEF ASSOCIATION YEAH I'D LIKE TO CONTINUE ON THAT AND THEN THERE'S JUST ONE LITTLE CLERICAL UPDATE WE NEED TO MAKE IT MAKE IT FROM LAST YEAR 2014 IS ACTUALLY MY STARTING TIME ON THE AMERICAN ON THAT RELIEF ASSOCIATION RATHER THAN 2015 GOT IT AND I SEE THAT ON THE THE AGENDA ITEM SO IF WE CAN MAKE THAT CHANGE THAT COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN HAS SERVED AS THE ELECTED OFFICIAL MEMBER SINCE 2014 AND THEN COUNCIL I WOULD LOOK FOR A MOTION TO REAPPOINT BLOOMINGTON FIRE CHIEF YOU'LL RECALL CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER LORIE OF ME SHOULDER AND COUNCILMEMBER DUANE LOWMAN AS EX-OFFICIO MEMBERS OF THE BLOOMINGTON FIRE DEPARTMENT AND RELIEF ASSOCIATION BOARD OF TRUSTEES FOR THE YEAR 2025 SO MOVED BY THE MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER CURTIS SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO TO MAKE THE APPOINTMENT TO THE BLOOMINGTON FIRE DEPARTMENT RELIEF ASSOCIATION NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH COUNCILMEMBER FOR SERVING THERE ITEM 5.4 IS OUR APPOINTMENT TO THE I-495 FOUR CORRIDOR COMMISSION I BELIEVE CURRENTLY IF I HAVE MY CURRENTLY COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO IS THE APPOINTEE WITH COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS AS AN ALTERNATE LYNN EXCUSE ME AND GLEN MURPHY GUARD WAS OUR STAFF MEMBER COUNCIL MEMBERS COUNCILMEMBERS LOOKING FOR CONFIRMATION COMES WILLIAM DALLESSANDRO IF YOU'D LIKE TO CONTINUE WITH THAT AND THEN I WOULD MOTION THAT WE WOULD OR I WOULD PROPOSE THAT KIM BERGERON FROM OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT STAFF BE APPOINTED TO FILL THAT STAFF ROLE. I'M WITH CONTINUING IN THAT CAPACITY I KNOW COUNCILMEMBER REAVIS ISN'T HERE TO SPEAK FOR HIMSELF BUT GIVEN THAT I THINK WE'RE JUST LEAVE IT I'D SAY REAPPOINT HIM IF HE DOESN'T LIKE IT WELL WE'LL DEAL WITH IT IN THE FUTURE TO GET HIM REAPPOINTED.  OKAY. SO I WOULD LOOK FOR A MOTION TO APPOINT COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO AS THE CITY'S REPRESENTATIVE AND COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS AS THE ALTERNATE AND KIM BRIDGET BERGERON I KEEP WANTING TO SAY BERGERON YOU KNOW BERGERON AS A STAFF REPRESENTATIVE TO THE I-495 RECORDER COMMISSION TO FILL TERMS EXPIRING ON DECEMBER 31ST 2025 SO MOVED TO SECOND MOST OF MY COUNCIL MEMBER MOVE SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN TO MAKE THE APPOINTMENT TO THE 494 CORRIDOR COMMISSION NOR FOR THE COUNCIL DISCUSSION THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES ZERO THANK YOU MUCH COUNCILMEMBER FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE AND KIM FOR SHE'S HERE SOMEWHERE FOR STEPPING IN THERE THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH AND I'M 5.5 IS OUR SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION APPOINTMENT CURRENTLY COUNCIL MEMBER LOWMAN IS OUR CURRENT MEMBER SERVING ON THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN INTEREST IN CONTINUING I INTERESTED IN CONTINUING WITH THIS AND I HAVE TALKED WITH STAFF ON OCCASIONS ABOUT SOME SOME CHANGES THAT COULD BE MADE AS WELL WITH THIS AS WELL. SEE I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A BACKUP PERSON ON THIS AND THERE'S SOME OTHER COUPLE OF OTHER IDEAS BUT THEY'RE NOT WELL WELL THOUGHT OUT SO I WANT TO I DON'T WANT TO NECESSARILY LAY THAT OUT SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAVE WITH THE HRA SITUATION BUT WHAT I AM IN CONTINUE I DO KNOW THERE'S INTEREST ON THE ON THIS BOARD OF THIS SO COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. I ACTUALLY INTERESTED IN PROPOSING SOMETHING A LITTLE DIFFERENT AND IT ISN'T SPECIFIC TO THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION ALTHOUGH IT HAPPENS TO BE THAT THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION IS THE ONLY ONE THAT'S IN THIS PARTICULAR POSITION NONE OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS ACTUALLY HAVE CITY COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVES.  WE HAVE THE HRA DOES AND THE PORT DOES BUT THOSE AUTHORITIES WITH BUDGET AND THAT MAKES TOTAL SENSE RIGHT I I'M DON'T HAVE THE HISTORY AS TO WHY THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION HAS THIS I KNOW THAT CREATIVE PLACEMAKING HAS THE OPTION TO AND I ACTUALLY KIND OF LIKE THAT LANGUAGE WAS LOOKING AT THAT NOT THAT LONG AGO. I'M CURIOUS IF WHAT WE DO HERE IS A MORATORIUM ON ON POSITIONING THIS ONE AND LOOK AT THE COMMISSION COUNCIL APPOINTMENT CONCEPT AS A WHOLE AND COME BACK WITH A UNIFORM WAY THAT WE AS A COUNCIL WANT TO LOOK AT APPOINTMENTS TO THESE COMMISSIONS IF THEY'RE INTENDED TO BE VOLUNTEER THEY'RE INTENDED TO BE VOLUNTEER OUTSIDE MAYBE THE RIGHT THING IS FOR NOPE NOBODY COUNCIL TO BE ON ANY OF THEM BECAUSE THEN THEY HAVE A FAIR AND VOICE AND THEN THEY BRING THAT TO US AND WE ARE THE COUNTERBALANCE TO IT OR WHATNOT I DON'T KNOW BUT IT AS I WAS THINKING ABOUT LAST YEAR IF YOU RECALL I THOUGHT ABOUT WELL CREATIVE PLACEMAKING HAS MOVED IN MOVING TO CITYWIDE MAYBE THAT MEANS WE SHOULD HAVE A COUNCIL MEMBER ON IT OR WHATEVER. AND THEN I STARTED THINKING WELL WHY ARE THERE SUCH DISPARITIES LIKE WHY DOESN'T HRC THEN HAVE ONE AND WHY DOESN'T PARKS AND REC HAVE ONE OR WHATEVER AND IT JUST FELT LIKE MAYBE WE SHOULD STOP, TAKE A LOOK, COME UP WITH A UNIFORM COMMISSION POLICY AND BRING THAT BACK TO COUNCIL. SO I THROW THAT OUT THERE NOPE FOR NO REASON OTHER THAN SEEMS LIKE GOOD TIMING AT THIS POINT. THANKS COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN. THANK YOU. I DO THINK THAT'S INTERESTING IDEA. I DON'T WE WE STARTED THE COMMISSION. ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT DID WAS HAVE A COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVE ON THERE BECAUSE OF THE IMPORT OF THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC FOR THE ENTIRE CITY. NOW THIS YOU KNOW, IF WERE TO FOLLOW THIS PARTICULAR IDEA WHICH I THINK IS AN INTERESTING IDEA I AM CURRENTLY THE VICE CHAIR OF THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION OUR CHAIR IS GOING TO BE UP FOR REAPPOINTMENT THIS YEAR SO IT DOES CREATE SOME LOGISTICAL ISSUES AS WELL AND I AM IN A LEADERSHIP ROLE WITH THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION SO SO I DON'T KNOW I PERSONALLY THINK IT'S KIND OF YOU KNOW IT WOULD BE NICE TO OFFER THAT EARLIER RATHER THAN JUST TONIGHT TO KIND OF MAKE A SPLIT DECISION OR CHANGE. SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, YOU SAID THE CHAIR IS UP FOR REAPPOINTMENT. SHE IS THEORETICALLY OKAY.  YEAH, I'M GOING TO GET OFF SO JUST I THINK WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF CHANGE OVER THIS YEAR.  MY RECOMMENDATION TO THIS BODY IS I THINK WE SHOULD CONSIDER THAT AND LOOK AT THIS AND A NUMBER OF OTHER ITEMS THAT ARE THERE. BUT I THINK WE NEED TO BE SURE THAT WE'RE IN PARTICULAR WITH THIS PARTICULAR BODY PROVIDING STABILITY AS WE KIND OF MOVE FORWARD. SO A LOT OF CHANGE WOULD HAPPEN THIS YEAR. WE HAD SOME CONFLICT OVER THE LAST YEAR.  COUNCILMEMBER CARTER THANK YOU MAYOR. SO SO SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION IS THE ONLY ONE THAT HAS A COUNCIL MEMBER. OKAY. I MEAN I KNOW I HAVE ASKED THIS QUESTION IN THE PAST TOO LIKE WHY DOESN'T THE ADVISORY BOARD OF HEALTH HAVE A COUNCIL MEMBER? AND SO I THINK IT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION AND I MEAN TO ME IT DOES FEEL LIKE THERE SHOULD BE CONSISTENCY IN HOW WE APPROACH THE COMMISSIONS. SO IT'S I'M SUPPORTIVE OF YOUR IDEA THE THOUGHTS AND COUNCILMEMBER NELSON AT LEAST COUNCILMEMBER NELSON PLEASE.  SO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY WITH COUNCILMEMBER ALESSANDRA IF YOUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO DO THAT TONIGHT BECAUSE I THINK IT HAS A LOT OF MERIT TO LOOK AT TO HAVE THAT CONSISTENCY ON THIS OR IF YOU'RE RECOMMENDING THAT WE TAKE AN GROUP THAT IN WITH SOME OTHER THINGS AND LOOK AT ALL OF THEM IN TOTALITY AND MAKE THAT DECISION LATER IS IT I WAS TRYING TO GET TO WHERE YOU'RE AT ON THAT MR. MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBER NELSON I WAS SUGGESTING A MORATORIUM ON THIS APPOINTMENT AND A REVIEW OF COMMISSIONS AS A WHOLE. THAT'S WHAT I WAS RECOMMENDING JUST SO THAT WE DIDN'T WE DIDN'T HAVE A SITUATION AS AS COUNCILMEMBER IS STATING WHERE WE WOULD APPOINT SOMEONE AND THEN REMOVE THROUGH SOME CHANGE WE WERE MAKING. I DIDN'T WANT TO DO THAT. THIS IS I MEAN IF I MAY BE BLUNT THERE IF IF IF IF WE AS A BODY WANTED TO APPOINT SOMEBODY OTHER THAN COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN TONIGHT YOU'D STILL BE IN THE SITUATION WHERE YOUR VICE CHAIR AND NOW YOU'RE NOT IN THAT POSITION SO THAT WOULD THAT CHANGE MIGHT WOULD HAVE OCCURRED EITHER WAY THAT'S WHAT THE YEARLY APPOINTMENT IS FOR AND I'M SURPRISED THAT THEY ELECTED YOU AS VICE CHAIR PERSONALLY GIVEN THE FACT THAT YOU'RE NOT PART OF THE THREE YEAR APPOINTMENT CYCLE YOU'RE A YEARLY APPOINTMENT CYCLE SO THAT THAT'S THIS IS THE KIND OF THING I'M TALKING ABOUT WHERE WE DON'T HAVE CONSISTENCY IN THE WAY THAT THINGS ARE BEING APPLIED. AND SO I'M JUST TRYING TO SOLVE FOR THAT SO THAT THERE'S CLARITY FOR THE COMMISSIONERS ABOUT WHEN EXPECTED TO HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER INPUT WHEN THEY'RE NOT EXPECTING COUNCIL MEMBER INPUT, HOW FREE ARE THEY TO HAVE THEIR OWN CONVERSATIONS THAT COME COUNCIL YOU KNOW ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS AND IT FEELS LIKE IT'S NOT CONSISTENT DEPENDING UPON THE COMMISSION AT THIS POINT LIKE COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN THOUGHT WELL, I MEAN I THINK IT'S KIND OF UNFAIR WE HAVE OTHER BODIES THAT ARE OUT THERE AS WELL HRA AND PORT AND I UNDERSTAND THAT ARE THOSE ARE OTHER ONES BUT THOSE ARE ALSO WE HAVE WE HAVE KNOW WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT YOU KNOW THOSE ONES HAVE APPOINTMENTS AND THEY'RE STRUCTURED AND UP FOR APPOINTMENT BY BY COUNCIL AND WE DID WHEN WE PUT THIS TOGETHER AS A BODY IN THE PAST WE HAD A COUNCIL MEMBER ON THIS LIKE THOSE OTHER OTHER BODIES SO I, I DO YOU KNOW, REGARDLESS OF , YOU KNOW, KIND OF FEEL SINGLED OUT HERE AND THOSE OTHER BODIES WERE NOT PUTTING A MORATORIUM ON THOSE APPOINTMENTS OR OR STOPPING THOSE APPOINTMENTS YOU KNOW FOR HRA OR FOR PORTER FOR ANY OF WAS OTHER ONES AND WHILE AND WHILE THOSE ARE NOT WHILE THOSE ARE NOT COMMISSIONS BUT THERE ARE THE GENERAL PUBLIC DOES SERVE ON THOSE AS WELL THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IN THAT IS THE TITLE SO YOU KNOW THE DIRECTION I WANTED TO GO IN IS IS SO I DON'T KNOW AND I THINK IT'S KIND OF KIND OF UNUSUAL THAT WE'RE YOU KNOW WE COULD HAVE HAD THIS CONVERSATION EARLIER ON AND WHY WE'RE HAVING IT TONIGHT JUST IT DOES PUT THE COMMISSIONER IN A VERY TRICKY POSITION SO BUT YOU KNOW, I CERTAINLY YOU KNOW WELL I'M OPEN TO THIS BODY OR WANTS TO DO WITH THIS BUT I DO THINK IT'S VERY UNFAIR. IT'S SOMETHING I'VE YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY BEEN VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS TRYING TO GET THIS THING UP AND RUNNING AND STARTING AND AND VERY INTERESTED IN THAT'S PART OF THE RATIONALE AS TO WHY WE HAD A, YOU KNOW, A A COUNCIL MEMBER AS A PART OF THIS AND ON THIS THIS PARTICULAR COMMISSION. SO I'LL BE VERY SAD TO LEAVE IT IN THIS TYPE OF SHAPE,  ESPECIALLY SINCE I PARTICIPATED IN THE PLANNING FOR FOR NEXT YEAR. SO COUNCILMEMBER THANK YOU,  MAYOR SO I GUESS I'M JUST UM. COUNCILMEMBER WOMAN I'M SORRY THAT FEEL LIKE YOU'RE I MEAN IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE TAKING IT VERY PERSONALLY AND I DON'T THINK IT'S PUSHED OFF BUT I, I DO WANT TO I WANT TO SAY THAT LAST YEAR WHEN TALKED ABOUT THIS APPOINTMENT YOU ALSO WERE LIKE WELL WE SHOULD HAVE A BACKUP, RIGHT? LIKE AND I DO THINK AT SOME POINT IT'S ALSO NOT FAIR TO OTHERS ON COUNCIL NEVER GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE SERVING ON A COMMISSION BECAUSE COUNCIL MEMBER WANTS TO CONTINUE YEAR OVER YEAR AND SO I AND THAT ASIDE LIKE I, I APPRECIATE YOUR LEADERSHIP ON THE COMMISSION BUT I DO THINK IT'S STRANGE THAT WE HAVE ONE COMMISSION. I'M PRETTY SURE THAT THE HRA AND THE PORT I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S IN STATUTE BUT THEY DEFINITELY HAVE IT IN THEIR OWN BYLAWS THE MAKEUP RIGHT. WE DON'T HAVE WHAT I'M HEARING FROM COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO IS WE DON'T HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT FOR OUR OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. WE DON'T HAVE UM CONSISTENCY IN TERMS OF LIKE HOW WE WHO WE APPOINT AND WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR WEBSITE IT SAYS IT'S THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS ARE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT AND REPRESENTATION . WE ARE COMMUNITY MEMBERS BUT WE ALSO ARE AN ELECTED OFFICIAL POSITIONS AND SO SO I GUESS I JUST I'M I HEAR THAT YOU ARE FEELING PUSHED OUT YOU'RE IN YOU'RE TAKING IT PERSONALLY BUT I DON'T A I DON'T SEE THAT I SEE THIS AS AS HAVING CONSISTENCY BECAUSE AGAIN AS A PUBLIC HEALTH PERSON WHY DON'T WE HAVE SOMEBODY ON THE ADVISORY BOARD OF HEALTH? WHY DON'T WE HAVE SOMETHING ON PARKS AND REC? WHY DON'T WE HAVE YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST THIS IS A KIND OF A STANDALONE EXAMPLE IN MY MIND . BUT THE OTHER PART OF THIS IS I ACTUALLY PERSONALLY I MEAN WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE OTHERS COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO RIVAS LAST YEAR EXPRESSED INTEREST IN SUSTAINABILITY AND I DON'T THINK IT IS FAIR TO ASSUME COMING INTO THESE MEETINGS TONIGHT THAT SOMEBODY IS GOING TO CONTINUE IN SEATS. I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE ROBUST DISCUSSION AROUND WHO SHOULD BE APPOINTED AND IF OTHERS ARE INTERESTED THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO BE ALLOWED TO PARTICIPATE TO VOICE THEIR INTEREST  IF OTHERS WOULD LIKE IN FIRST. OKAY COUNCILMEMBER MOMENT ALL RIGHT WELL OF YOU KNOW THE PROPOSAL I HAD WAS TO ADD ANOTHER SEAT YOU KNOW LIKE WE HAD WITH HRA IF THERE IS YOU KNOW THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT SAYS AS IMPORTANT TO TO THE TO THE TO ENTIRE COMMUNITY AS AS AS HOUSING IS AND SO I MADE THOSE REQUESTS LAST YEAR AND I MEAN I DIDN'T WANT TO BRING UP YOU KNOW, BUT STAFF NEVER MADE TOOK A STEP TO THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO? SO I MEAN I DON'T WANT TO THROW THE THROW THE STAFF UNDER THE YOU KNOW BUT I DID BRING IT UP I MADE A GOOD FAITH EFFORT BECAUSE I DO KNOW THERE'S INTEREST IN THIS IN TERMS OF TRYING TO TRY TO MOVE THIS FORWARD.  YOU KNOW, AFTER THIS I YOU KNOW BUT I MEAN YOU CAN'T STOP HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT SOMETHING BECAUSE YOU'RE PASSIONATE ABOUT IT. AND WHEN WE WHEN WE STARTED WHEN WE SET THIS UP, THAT'S WHAT THAT COUNCIL DECIDED. THIS IS A DIFFERENT COUNCIL IF THIS COUNCIL WANTS TO IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION. YOU KNOW, I CAN'T I CAN'T STOP THIS COUNCIL FROM DOING THAT AND I ALSO CAN'T STOP HOW I FEEL ABOUT IT. I MEAN I'M PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS. IT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I RAN FOR OFFICE, WORKED TO GET IT SET UP, YOU KNOW, GETTING FOLKS ORGANIZED AND PUT TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, JUST DO IT JUST REALLY NURTURING AND AND I DO HOPE TO ONE TO TURN IT OVER AT SOME POINT. I DO THINK THAT WE NEED TO HAVE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS ON COMMISSIONS.  I'VE NEVER BEEN OPPOSED TO THAT. THIS IS JUST BEEN MY PERSONAL PASSION AND SO WHAT I WOULD SAY TO THIS BODY IS IS RATHER THAN, YOU KNOW, PREVENTING ME FROM FROM DOING THIS, LET'S OPEN UP LIKE WE HAVE WITH HRA LET'S APPOINT OTHER PEOPLE ON ON THE OTHER COMMISSIONS AS WELL. YOU KNOW IF THERE'S INTEREST THERE TO TO TO GO AHEAD AND DO THAT JUST WHEN WE SET THIS PARTICULAR COMMISSION UP WHICH WAS WAS COMMUNITY LED I WAS A PART OF THE GRASSROOTS ORGANIZATION THAT DID THIS AND SO WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA. IT WAS IMPORTANT TO HAVE THAT CONNECTION BETWEEN COUNCIL AND THIS GROUP BECAUSE WHAT WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT WAS THAT THIS ISSUE MIGHT NOT RESONATE OR WE HAVE TROUBLE BEING ABLE TO GET THESE THINGS ACROSS AND BEING ABLE TO GET THESE THINGS DONE AND I STILL CONTINUE TO HAVE THAT CONCERN IF WE TAKE REPRESENTATIVE OFF IT WOULD HAVE TO BE ME BUT IF WE TAKE A REPRESENTATIVE OFF THERE I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD SAY AND AGAIN I CAN'T I CAN'T STOP THIS BODY DOING WHATEVER IT WANTS TO DO. I'M ONLY ONE MEMBER BUT I MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO TO LOOK AT OTHER OPTIONS THAT ARE OUT THERE. I WISH WE WOULD HAVE HAD THIS CONVERSATION PRIOR TO TONIGHT RATHER THAN WAITING UNTIL THE NIGHT TO IN A SENSE I FEEL ABOUT THIS SO AND I KNOW MARY TO YOU ABOUT THIS AS WELL ABOUT THE IDEAS THAT I HAD AND CERTAINLY OPEN TO THOSE IDEAS. BUT AGAIN I CAN'T EXECUTE THESE THINGS MYSELF. I NEED STAFF TO SUPPORT ME IN OR IN ORDER TO DO THAT AND I NEED OTHER FOLKS ON THIS COUNCIL SUPPORT ME IN ORDER TO DO THAT AS WELL. I DON'T REMEMBER NELSON YEAH,  THANK YOU MAYOR I'M LOOKING AT IT AS AN ISSUE FOR ALL COMMISSIONS. I ACTUALLY DON'T THINK WE SHOULD HAVE COUNCIL MEMBERS ON COMMISSIONS.  I THINK THERE SHOULD BE INDEPENDENT BODIES THAT THAT WORK ON THEIR OWN AND TO US AND TALK TO US. I DO THINK, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS A UNIQUE SITUATION IN TERMS OF GETTING SOMETHING OFF OF THE GROUND AND I THINK DUANE'S DONE AN AMAZING JOB WORKING WITH THAT GROUP AND HELPING THEM. BUT THE REALITY IS I THINK WE'RE IN A MUCH BETTER POSITION RIGHT NOW. I MEAN WE HAVE SUSTAINABILITY EMBEDDED INTO OUR PLANS, INTO OUR STRATEGIC PLAN BUT I DO HAVE A TECHNICAL QUESTION ABOUT THAT IS BECAUSE OUR CITY CODE SAYS THERE IS A SEAT FOR THIS.  I MEAN SO DOES THIS TAKE A CHANGE CITY CODE AND WHAT DOES THAT PROCESS LOOK LIKE?  I MEAN IS THAT PROCESS SOMETHING WE CAN JUST DO?  IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO GO THROUGH LEGAL TO WORK ON AS A MATTER OF SHOWING IT TO THEIR MEMBERS? IT WOULD BE A CODE ORDINANCE IT WOULD REQUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING AFTER A PUBLIC NOTICE MAPPING IT OUT. I THINK WE COULD IF YOU WANTED TO MAKE A CHANGE GIVE ME YOU COULD GIVE ME DIRECTION TONIGHT ON WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO PREPARE. I COULD PUT A PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE IN THE PAPER FOR NEXT THURSDAY AND IT COULD BE ON THE 27TH OF JANUARY MEETING.  COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.  SO TO TO EXACTLY COUNCILMEMBER NELSON'S POINT I AM OF THE OPINION THAT THERE SHOULD NOT BE COUNCIL MEMBERS ON THESE COMMISSIONS AND THAT'S THE REASON FOR THIS THIS NOT A PERSONAL QUESTION. I APOLOGIZE IF ANYBODY FEELS UNCOMFORTABLE ABOUT THAT. THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS IS. I ALSO THINK IN 2017 WHEN THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION WAS THERE WE DIDN'T HAVE A FULL TIME STAFF MEMBER LIKE EMMA STRAUSS WHO IS INCREDIBLE AND CAPABLE OF OF LEADING THIS CHARGE. SHE NOT HAS THAT BUT WE HAVE TWO ADDITIONAL STAFF MEMBERS SO WE'VE WE'VE GOT AN ENTIRE EMBEDDED STAFF ORGANIZATION HERE TO HELP THAT COMMISSION NOW WHICH DIDN'T HAVE BEFORE. AND SO I'M OF THE OPINION THAT WE LEAVE IT LEAVE IT BE AN INDEPENDENT BODY AND I'M OF THAT OPINION ALL OF OUR COMMISSIONS AGAIN THE HRA AND THE PORT ARE SEPARATE AUTHORITIES THEY ARE NOT COUNCIL MEMBER WE THAT'S THE COUNCIL ON THERE BECAUSE THEY SPEND CITY MONEY BUT THEY ARE SEPARATE AUTHORITIES WITH THEIR OWN CHARTER AND EVERYTHING ELSE THEY SHOULD NOT BE RELATED TO OUR VOLUNTEER COMMISSIONS AT ALL. I'M NOT SPEAKING ABOUT THEM IN WAY, SHAPE OR FORM. WHEN I THINK ABOUT THIS I AM SPEAKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT PARKS OUR PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD OF HEALTH SUSTAINABILITY, HUMAN RIGHTS AND CREATIVE PLACEMAKING AND CREATIVE PLACEMAKING BY THE WAY I LOOKED AT THE ORDINANCE EARLIER THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT SECTION ALTOGETHER WHAT SUSTAINABILITY HAS AND SO THERE'S INCONSISTENCY ALL AROUND IS MY POINT AND THAT'S WHY I THINK PUTTING A MORATORIUM ON THIS GETTING THE CODE RIGHT BRINGING BACK AN ORDINANCE THAT WOULD APPLY TO ALL COMMISSIONS EQUALLY AND IT COULD SAY THERE'S A COUNCILMEMBER IT COULD SAY THERE'S TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS THERE COULD SAY BY INVITATION OF THE COMMISSION THERE'S A COUNCIL MEMBER YOU KNOW IT CAN SAY ANYTHING TT WE WANT IT TO AT THAT POINT BUT THEN IT WOULD APPLY TO ALL THE COMMISSIONS THAT SEEMS TO ME TO BE THE RIGHT WAY TO DO IT IF WE ARE GOING TO FIX THIS,  IF YOU WILL. SO THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I WOULD PROPOSE COUNCILMEMBER PRIMA MY MY QUESTION IS HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE US TO DO IT RIGHT TO LOOK THROUGH DO THE CHARTER CHANGE PROCESS?  SURE. THAT WE'VE BROUGHT IN ALL THE THE CHAIRS, THE COMMISSIONS TALK TO THE PROCESS LIKE HOW LONG IS THAT GOING TO TAKE REALISTICALLY?  MY METRO MAY REMEMBERS ARE WE THERE IS A STAFF MEMBER WHOSE JOB IT IS COORDINATE THE STAFF LIAISONS OF THE COMMISSIONS SO WE COULD CERTAINLY HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITHIN A COUPLE OF DAYS.  THE ACTUAL MEETING OF ALL OF THE HEADS OF , THE COMMISSIONS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO GET THEIR FEEDBACK WOULD PROBABLY TAKE A LOT MORE TIME. WE COULD HAVE IT SEQUENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, BY EMAIL OR WHAT HAVE YOU. THE OTHER THING I'LL KNOW JUST BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN SOME TIME BUT WE DID DO A VERY FULL REWRITE OF THIS SECTION OF THE CODE BACK I WANT TO SAY IT WAS 2018 2017 WE WENT THROUGH EVERY SECTION IT WAS I CALL IT THE SINK BECAUSE THERE'S CHRIS WILSON AND ME THAT DID A LOT OF THE WORK ON IT AND DID A LOT OF UPDATES BASED ON FEEDBACK THAT WE WERE RECEIVING AT THE TIME.  SO IT HAS BEEN LOOKED AT WITHIN THE LAST I GUESS FIVE, EIGHT YEARS, SEVEN YEARS AND IT'S OBVIOUSLY UP TO YOU IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO LOOK AT SOME OTHER SECTIONS HAPPY TO DO THAT. IT'S NOT A CHARTER CHANGE THOUGH IT'S A CITY CODE CHANGE SO IT DOESN'T REQUIRE US TO GO THROUGH THE CHARTER AMENDMENT PROCESS.  IT'S A PRETTY QUICK PROCESS. WE COULD DO IT IN IN JANUARY.  SO I'M THINKING OF MORE MORE BECAUSE WHAT I WANT TO DO IS MAKE SURE WE DO THIS RIGHT BECAUSE I DO AGREE WITH THAT. THE POINTS ARE MADE BUT I DON'T WANT TO LIKE RUSH INTO IT TO SAY OKAY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE WE'RE GOING TO KEEP COUNCIL MEMBERS ON COMMISSIONS AND THEN IN MONTH WE'RE TRYING TO PUT PEOPLE ON LIKE I'M SORRY, I HAVE A FAMILY, I NEED A PLAN TODAY SO THAT WE CAN PLAN THE WHOLE YEAR.  SO MY INITIAL THOUGHT ON THIS IS BECAUSE WE'RE HAVING THE CONVERSATION TODAY IN 25 DOES IT MAKE SENSE FOR US TO CUT FROM A BELOW ONE IF HE CONTINUES TO WANT SERVE ON THIS FOR THE NEXT YEAR WE GO THROUGH A ROBUST PROCESS THAT INCLUDES ALL THE HEADS INCLUDES STAFF THAT INCLUDES FEEDBACK FROM US AT PUBLIC HEARINGS FROM THE FROM RESIDENTS WITHIN BLOOMINGTON.  SO WE WE'RE NOT TRYING TO RUSH AND DO SOMETHING ON THE FLY THAT'S MY THOUGHT PROCESS OF WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE WE NEED CHANGE. WE NEED TO HAVE OUR COMMISSIONS BE ABLE TO TO TO COME TO US AND DO THE WORK THAT WE HAVE TO ASK THEM TO DO WITH US WITHOUT US INTERFERING WITH IT. BUT I ALSO DON'T WANT TO TO LIMIT ONE COMMISSION BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO WORK THIS ON FLY BECAUSE WE'VE SEEN HOW SUCCESSFUL THAT IS.  WE TRY TO DO THAT SOMETIMES AND SO THAT'S MY INITIAL THOUGHT ON THIS IS WE'RE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION IS MOVING FORWARD AND PLANNING FOR 25 AND HAVING THIS GO THROUGH THIS YEAR SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THIS IN EFFECT IN 26 TO ENSURE THAT EVERYTHING IS STANDARD AND PEOPLE KNOW AND WE'RE READY TO GO SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE THIS CONVERSATION AGAIN IN 26.  COUNCILMEMBER CARTER THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM I GUESS I JUST WANTED TO CHIME IN TO SAY THAT I ALSO DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD HAVE COUNCIL MEMBERS ON COMMISSIONS AND TO YOUR POINT, COUNCILMEMBER WOOD, YOU'RE THOUGHT PROCESS OF HAVING LIKE A FULL ENGAGEMENT OF LIKE CHAIRS AND COMMISSION MEMBERS LIKE IF WE HAVE I MEAN WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM EVERYBODY BUT IF WE HAVE GENERAL ON THE COUNCIL THAT WELL WE DON'T REALLY ACTUALLY THINK THAT THERE BE COUNCIL MEMBERS ON COMMISSIONS THEN WHAT WOULD BE THE POINT OF GOING LIKE GOING THROUGH THAT ROBUST OF PROCESS ? YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I AGREE WITH I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IN TERMS OF LIKE WE DON'T HAVE TO LIKE MAKE IT AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING IN TWO WEEKS OR WHATEVER BUT BUT I GUESS I GUESS THAT WOULD BE MY QUESTION. LIKE I MEAN I PERSONALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT A ENGAGEMENT PROCESS WOULD DO IF THERE IS CONSENSUS THAT WE SHOULDN'T THAT THEY REALLY SHOULD BE MEMBER DRIVEN AND SO MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER I THINK MY THOUGHT ON THAT IS THAT I WOULD VENTURE TO SAY THERE ARE SOME COMMISSIONS WHO WOULD LIKE TO HAVE COUNCIL MEMBERS ON THAT SO ALTHOUGH WE WOULD AGREE HERE ON COUNCIL WE PROBABLY SHOULDN'T HAVE CUSTOMERS ON THERE THERE IS A DIFFERENCE IN JUST BEING ON A JURY. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE IN THE ENERGY AND THE QUESTIONS AND THE THINGS THAT COME UP BECAUSE IS SOMEONE ON COUNCIL ON THERE AND SO IF WE'RE GOING TO TASK THESE COMMISSIONS TO DO THE WORK THAT WE WANT TO DO, I THINK IT'S ON OUR BEST IN OUR BEST INTEREST TO GET THEIR INPUT TO SAY DO YOU GUYS AGREE IN LINE WITH WHAT WE ARE THINKING UP HERE OR IS OUR THOUGHT COMPLETELY DIFFERENT IN THAT YOU WANT MORE COUNCIL MEMBERS ON THERE THAT WANT TO HAVE A BETTER TRAIN OF THOUGHT, YOU WANT SOMETHING TO REALLY DRIVE THE CONVERSATIONS AND MOVE THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING FURTHER THAN JUST THE ONE TIME OF YEAR THAT YOU GUYS WE COME TO YOU AT THE CITY COUNCIL AND THAT'S NOT SOMETHING I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT SINCE BEING ON COUNCIL IS THAT OUR RELATIONSHIPS WITH OUR COMMISSIONS IS A YEAR WHEN THEY'RE COMING UP HERE TO PRESENT THEIR PLANS TO US AND SO THIS WAS A TOTALLY THEY DO YES BUT FOR THE MOST PART IN PUBLIC THEY'RE NOT HERE.  THEY'RE PRESENTING THEIR ANNUAL PLANS TO US AND THEN WE'RE SAYING YES OR NO OR IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE WANT TO ADD OR CHANGE LIKE THEY'RE NOT GETTING THAT FEEDBACK AND THEN WE DON'T EVER HEAR BACK FROM THEM AGAIN AND.  SO I THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A STRONG RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR COMMISSIONS IT BEHOOVES TO INCLUDE THEM IN THE CONVERSATION AND MAKE SURE THAT AS WE'RE SETTING UP THESE COMMISSIONS AND THE STRUCTURE THAT WE WANT THEM TO BE AND ALIGNS WHAT THE COMMUNITY AND THOSE COMMISSIONERS EXPECT US TO SUPPORT IN HOW WE SUPPORT THEM AND HOW THEY DO WORK AND SO THAT WE CAN STRENGTHEN THAT RELATIONSHIP THAT WE HAVE WITH THE COMMISSIONS TO NOT JUST SAY WE WE JUST WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU ONCE A YEAR. SO THAT'S THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'VE BEEN AT IT AND WHEN I'M THINKING ABOUT HOW WE BETTER SUPPORT AND STRUCTURE OUR COMMISSIONS AND COUNCILMEMBER MR. FREIBERG THANK YOU MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS I THINK COUNCILMEMBER ARTICULATED THAT PRETTY WELL TO COUNCILMEMBER CARTER'S QUESTION. I WOULD SAY THAT THE ANSWER IS THAT IN THE SPIRIT OF OUR PHILOSOPHY OF ENGAGEMENT IN NOT MAKING DECISIONS WITHOUT WITH THE FOLKS WHO ARE IMPACTED BY THE DECISIONS WE MAKE THAT IT'S APPROPRIATE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT LEVEL OF ENGAGEMENT OR IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT RISES TO THAT LEVEL. I THINK COUNCILMEMBER WHY HE THOUGHT IT DID RIGHT AND SO I THINK THAT'S THE QUESTION TO HAVE. I WOULD SAY TWO OPTIONS AVAILABLE TO COUNCIL HERE.  ONE IS MAKE AN APPOINTMENT AND THEN IF THERE IS GOING TO BE A CHANGE DEAL WITH IT AT THAT SECOND IS NOT MAKE AN APPOINTMENT TONIGHT AND.  THE WAY THAT THE COMMISSIONS ARE GENERALLY STRUCTURED IS THAT IF A SUCCESSOR IS NOT APPOINTED TO A SEAT THEN THE PERSON WILL CONTINUE TO SERVE IN THAT CAPACITY UNTIL SUCH TIME THAT A SUCCESSOR IS APPOINTED SO YOU COULD EITHER TAKE ACTION OR NOT ACTION BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD TO GIVE DIRECTION TO STAFF ON WHAT YOUR EXPECTATION IS FOR HOW YOU'D LIKE TO RESOLVE THE SITUATION.  THANK YOU MR. BRUTON SO THOSE ARE THE TWO OPTIONS COUNCIL AND I'M I, I AGREE WE NEED A COMPREHENSIVE LOOK AT THIS JUST BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE HAVE DONE IT AND IT IT SHOULD BE DONE TO ENSURE CONTINUITY, TO ENSURE CONSISTENCY AND TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE DOING THE BEST THAT WE CAN AND SO ON.  I ALSO IF I'M RECALLING THE CONVERSATION COUNCILMEMBER LOEHMANN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG BUT THIS WHOLE NOTION OF A COUNCIL APPOINTEE TO THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION CAME ABOUT I THINK THERE WAS AND I THINK THAT YOU AND I WERE THE ONLY TWO WERE THERE MR. ROONEY FOR BRUGUIERE AS WELL. BUT I THINK IT WAS A MATTER OF THERE WAS SOME STAFF TREPIDATION ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION AND SO THE COUNCIL WANTED TO PUT A COUNCIL MEMBER ON THERE TO ENSURE THAT THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF HEFT TO THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION HAVE A COUNCIL MEMBER THERE. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THAT ISSUE ANY LONGER. I MEAN I WOULD NOT SAY THAT THERE IS ANY DISMISSAL OR OR YOU KNOW ASIDE I LOOK AT OUR SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION AND THE WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING AND AND THE VERY IMPORTANT AND GOOD WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING. SO THE RATIONALE BEHIND DOING THIS DIFFERENTLY IN THE FIRST PLACE I DON'T THINK IS THERE ANY LONGER BUT AT THE SAME I ALSO AGREE I DON'T KNOW THAT I, I WANT TO CHANGE KIND OF ON THE FLY HERE. I WOULD RATHER MAKE SURE THAT WE DO THIS CORRECTLY AND SO I MEAN I WOULD SUPPORT I WOULD SUPPORT ASKING TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS TO BRING BACK OPTIONS FOR US TO HAVE A FULL DISCUSSION ON THIS.  BUT I THINK AT THIS TIME I WOULD ALSO SUPPORT APPOINTING COUNCIL WOMAN TONIGHT WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT BY MID-APRIL YOU MIGHT NOT BE ON THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION ANYMORE AND I THINK IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT AND I'M OKAY WITH THAT I WOULD REALLY LIKE JUST GET ON THERE SO I CAN PLEASE GET ANOTHER VICE CHAIR SO I CAN GET OUT THERE SO I DON'T PUT THE FOR THE GROUP ON IT. BUT THEN WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS HAVE THE STAFF BRING BACK OPTIONS FOR US A COUPLE OF IDEAS HOW WE RESTRUCTURE WHAT WE MIGHT GET SOME FEEDBACK AS MR. FERRUCCI SAID GET THAT INPUT FROM FROM OTHERS AND TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNOW WITHIN 90 DAYS AND THIS SHOULDN'T TAKE LONG WE COULD DO THIS IN 60 DAYS IF WE REALLY WANTED TO I THINK. AND THEN WE HAVE OPTIONS IN FRONT OF US AND THEN ALSO WITH A FULL COUNCIL I MEAN COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS NOT BEING HERE I THINK I MEAN SHOULD IT SHOULD PLAY A PART IN THIS AS WELL. I THINK THERE SHOULD BE SEVEN OF US HERE MAKING THIS DECISION AND MAKING THIS VOTE SO THAT BE MY RECOMMENDATION. I MEAN I TAKE IT FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH BUT I THINK IF WE MADE THE APPOINTMENT TONIGHT ADDRESSED AND INSTRUCTED STAFF TO BRING BACK OPTIONS WITHIN,  YOU KNOW, 60 DAYS OR WHATEVER AND TAKE A LOOK AT THIS FROM A I'M ENGAGEMENT AND A FEEDBACK PERSPECTIVE AND MAKE AN ULTIMATE DECISION NOT RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW AND WHEN IT'S BROUGHT UP THIS BUT WITHIN YOU KNOW BY THE END OF MARCH I MEAN DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? I KNOW IF EVERYBODY AGREES WITH IT I THINK IT MIGHT BE DISAPPOINTING TO A FEW FOLKS BUT I THINK IT WOULD IT FEELS THE FAIREST WAY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS.  BUT AGAIN, UNDERSTANDING THAT I MEAN BY THE SECOND QUARTER HERE IT COULD CHANGE. WELL, THAT'S THAT'S THIS BODY DOES AND I HAVE YOU KNOW I'VE SUPPORTED WHAT THIS BODY IS HAS DONE IN THE PAST SO I DON'T I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM THERE. SO I SERVE THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE AND ALSO THIS THIS OF THIS OF THIS COUNCIL.  SO AND IT SOUNDS LIKE I'M HERE MY COLLEAGUES MAY WANT TO MAKE A CHANGE. SO IF IF I COULD COUNCIL I'M GOING TO MOVE THAT. WE APPOINT COUNCIL MEMBER DUANE LOWMAN TO THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION AND DIRECT STAFF TO DO A COMPREHENSIVE LOOK AT OUR COUNCIL APPOINTMENTS TO COMMISSIONS HELP ME HERE WITH THE LANGUAGE TO REALLY APPOINTMENT MAYOR FIRST OKAY SECONDARY OKAY IT SOUNDS GOOD I I WOULD MOVE AN APPOINTMENT OF COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN TO THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION SO I GET WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND FOR COUNCIL LOWMAN TO BE ON THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION AND FOR THE RECORD I DIDN'T SAY I DIDN'T COMPLETE THAT FOR 25 UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT MIGHT NOT BE THE CASE SO APPOINT COUNCILMEMBER MEMBER TO THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO AND NOW FROM A FOR A STAFF DIRECTION I WOULD HAVE STAFF WITHIN WHAT'S A DECENT TIMEFRAME 6090 DAYS MR. MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS I THINK IT'S OKAY TO DIRECT STAFF TO SAY WELL WITHIN 30 DAYS TO COME BACK WITH RECOMMENDATIONS FOR A PROCESS. OKAY WITHIN 30 DAYS COME BACK WITH RECOMMENDATIONS FOR A PROCESS FOR OUR COUNCIL INVOLVEMENT ON VOLUNTEER COMMISSIONS.  ALL RIGHT. AND MR. MAYOR, IF I MAY COUNCIL MEMBER COMMISSIONS IS NOT ABOUT OUR AUTHORITIES.  THEY'RE ARE COMPLETELY SEPARATE ENTITIES WITH THEIR OWN STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS. WE CAN'T I'M NOT I'M NOT ASKING STAFF TO DO ANYTHING WITH THOSE. I DON'T THINK WE CAN I THINK THEY'RE ENTITIES.  I, I WOULD AGREE AND I THINK IT WOULD BE IF THE STAFF WANTED TO DO THE WORK. IT WOULD BE SIMPLY WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING THERE NOW.  BUT I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR AND WE CAN ARTICULATE THE SPECIFIC COMMITTEES BUT I MEAN WE KNOW WHICH ONES THEY ARE RIGHT.  OKAY. THANKS EVERYBODY. STAFF THAT CLEAR IT IS AND TO ANSWER THE QUESTION THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THE ONES IN CITY CODE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. CORRECT. THE OTHER AUTHORITIES HAVE,  THEIR OWN BYLAWS THAT THEY HAVE TO APPROVE ALL.  RIGHT. EVERYBODY'S GOOD WITH THAT. ALL RIGHT.  WE WILL MOVE ON. ITEM 5.6 IS OUR APPOINTMENT TO THE STATE COMMITTEE VOTE IF YOU WANT TO GET TERMS. DO YOU WANT A CONSENSUS FOR THE STAFF OR FOR THE STAFF DIRECTION? YEAH.  DO WE WANT TO TAKE A VOTE ON THE STAFF DIRECTION? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION TO MAKE THAT STAFF DIRECTION. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION IN THE SECOND TO FOR THE STAFF DIRECTION ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY OH SORRY SO THIS IS TO RECOMMEND DIFFERENT PROCESSES THAT CAN BE TAKEN FOR DIFFERENT OPTIONS WHAT IT COULD LOOK LIKE MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE MOTION IS THAT STAFF IS DIRECTED WITHIN 30 DAYS TO COME BACK WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR A PROCESS FOR AN IT LIKE APPLICANT REGARDING BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND COUNCIL SEATS. OKAY. AND HOW LONG DO WE THINK THIS LIKE HOW WOULD THE STAFF COME BACK WITH LIKE OKAY HERE'S I HAD A 30 DAY ENGAGEMENT PROCESS WOULD LOOK LIKE AND THIS IS WHAT LIKE A MORE ROBUST 90 AND I, I PERSONALLY AM JUST REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT CAPACITY ACROSS THE BOARD YEAH MAJOR TRANSITION GOING ON RIGHT NOW IN THE OF THE CITY I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU ALL BUT MY SCHEDULE PACKED NOT JUST WITH MY OWN LIKE FAMILY AND WORK STUFF BUT ALSO COUNCIL RELATED STAFF AND SO I JUST I REALLY HESITATE ADDING ON THIS WHOLE NEW ROBUST PROCESS SO SO THAT'S WHY I WAS CLARIFYING LIKE IS IT THE PROCESS?  IT'S A GOOD QUESTION, SURE. MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER CARTER IT'S A GOOD I THINK THE DISCUSSION FOR THE COUNCIL AND COMES BACK WITH THE RECOMMENDATION IS HOW ROBUST DO WANT IT TO BE BECAUSE I THINK THE PROCESS OF JUST CONSULTING WITH THE COMMISSIONS WHICH MOST OF THEM WOULD MEET DURING THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY YOU CAN ASK THEM AS PART OF THEIR AGENDA YOU KNOW TO HAVE A FOCUSED CONVERSATION AROUND IT, GET FEEDBACK PROBABLY BY MARCH AND THEN HAVE THAT INFORMATION TO HAVE A CONVERSATION THAT IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU FEEL IS WORTHY OF A LITTLE BIT MORE ENGAGEMENT TO THE COMMUNITY, THAT'S THE DIRECTION YOU SHOULD GO BACK TO STEPH THAT MAKES SENSE. COUNCIL MEMBER OKAY, SO I MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE DOING.  WHAT DO YOU HAVE WRITTEN THERE IS AS FAR AS THE MOTION MAYOR I HAVE SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF RETURN WITHIN 30 DAYS WITH A RECOMMENDATION. SO WHAT I WROTE DOWN BUT FOR A PROCESS FOR COUNCIL INVOLVEMENT TO DETERMINE COUNCIL INVOLVEMENT IN BOARDS AND OR IN COMMISSIONS AND COMMISSIONS AND I'M ALSO HEARING ADVISORY YES WE'RE IN WE'RE JUST TO BE CLEAR WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ONES TO POINT TO POINT 70 IN THE CODE ONE THROUGH SEVEN IS THE ONES THAT I'M UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. YES. AND I'M ALSO HEARING YOU WANT LIKE SORT OF A LOW MEDIUM HIGH OPTIONS FOR PROCESS IS THAT YES. OKAY. MAYOR, CAN I ASK DOES THAT INCLUDE THE CHARTER COMMISSION TO OR NO. NO SORRY IT MEANS PEOPLE OVER YOU THE SEPARATE AS WELL.  THEY'RE SEPARATE AS WELL. YES COUNCILMEMBER NELSON SUPER QUICK I DON'T MEAN TO BE OVERLY TECHNICAL BUT 30 DAYS IS BEFORE OUR FIRST MEETING IN FEBRUARY. OUR FIRST MEETING IN FEBRUARY IS UNTIL THE 10TH AND I'M GUESSING THEY CAN DO THIS BY 27TH AND THAT'S WHAT WE HEARD EARLIER THEY CAN GET AND PULL SOMETHING TOGETHER BY THE 27TH . I THINK WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE TABLE EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR STAFF DIRECTION ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIED SIX ZERO ALL RIGHT SO THANK YOU FOR THE SUGGESTIONS THANKS FOR THE COMMENTS IN THE CONVERSATION HERE. I THINK WE'RE ON A PATH FORWARD SO THANK YOU FOR THAT . NOW WE WILL MOVE ON TO WHICH ONE WE GET TO HEAR AND IN 5.6 OUR STATE COMMUNITY HEALTH SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE APPOINTMENT  NO I LOST MY PLACE PLACE CURRENTLY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER AND DR. NICK KELLY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER APPOINTED DOCTOR NICK KELLY IS OUR ALTERNATE THIS IS AN ANNUAL APPOINTMENT. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER YOU'RE LOOKING TO BE REAPPOINTED I'M HOPING I AM HAPPY TO CONTINUE SERVING.  WE WOULD VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THAT GIVEN YOUR KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERTIZE IN ALL OF THIS.  SO THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. SO COUNCIL I WOULD LOOK FOR A MOTION TO APPOINT COUNCILMEMBER CARTER AS A CITY'S REPRESENTATIVE AND PUBLIC HEALTH ADMINISTRATOR DR. NICK KELLY IS THE ALTERNATE TO THE STATE COMMUNITY HEALTH SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO TERMS EXPIRING ON DECEMBER 31ST 2025 SO MOVED WE GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER MORE SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER NELSON TO FILL THE OPENING ON THE STATE COMMUNITY HEALTH SERVICE ADVISORY COMMITTEE NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED THE MOTION CARRIES ZERO. UP NEXT IS OUR I-35W SOLUTIONS ALLIANCE APPOINTMENTS.  CURRENTLY WE HAVE COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN APPOINTED WITH NELSON AS THE ALTERNATE THE STAFF IN TASK THE YEARS WAS MR. KEEL. WE'RE LOOKING AT JULIE LONG AS THE STAFF APPOINTMENT AS OF THE FIRST OF THIS YEAR COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN COUNCILMEMBER NELSON INTERESTED IN RE-UPPING.  VERY GOOD SO COUNCIL I WOULD LOOK FOR A MOTION APPOINT COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN AS A REPRESENTATIVE AND COUNCILMEMBER NELSON AS THE ALTERNATE AND JULIE LONG AS THE STAFF REPRESENTATIVE TO THE I-35W ALLIANCE FOR TERMS SET TO EXPIRE ON DECEMBER 31ST 2025. SOME MOST OF MY COUNCILMEMBER SECOND BUT COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO TO MAKE THE APPOINTMENTS TO THE I-35W SOLUTIONS ALLIANCE NOR FOR THE COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSE MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO AND IN 5.8 IS OUR APPOINTMENT TO THE U.S. 169 CORRIDOR COALITION. COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO IS OUR CURRENT REPRESENTATIVE WITH COUNCILMAN NELSON AS AN ALTERNATE COUNCILMEMBER OR EXCUSE ME STAFF MEMBERS KIRK ROBERTS JULIE LONG WOULD BE THE STAFF APPOINTEES TO THIS COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO COUNCILMEMBER NELSON CONTINUED TO SERVE WITH THIS YOUNGEST MAN.  ALL RIGHT SO COUNCIL I LOOK FOR A MOTION TO APPOINT COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO AS THE COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVE AND COUNCILMEMBER NELSON AS THE COUNCIL ALTERNATE AS WELL AS KIRK ROBERTS IS THE STAFF REPRESENTATIVE AND JULIE LONG IS THE STAFF ALTERNATE TO THE US HIGHWAY 169 CORRIDOR COALITION. TWO TERMS EXPIRING DECEMBER 31ST 2025 SO MOVED.  SO MOST OF MY COUNCILMEMBER SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER NELSON TO MAKE THE APPOINTMENT OF US. 169 QUARTER COALITION NOT FOR THIS COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED THE MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO. NEXT UP IS THE BLOOMINGTON CONVENTION AND VISITORS BUREAU. THAT'S THE OLD NAME. THIS IS THE BLOOMINGTON, MINNESOTA TRAVEL AND TOURISM APPOINTMENTS. AND CURRENTLY I SERVE ON IT AS WELL AS COUNCILMEMBER NELSON. MR. FERRUCCI HAS SERVED ON IT SINCE HIS APPOINTMENT BECAUSE HE WILL BE STEPPING ASIDE. THE RECOMMENDATION IS BERGEN TO TO FILL THAT VACANCY LIKELY UNTIL A FULL TIME CITY MANAGER IS APPOINTED BUT JUST TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE APPOINTMENT FOR THE YEAR I WOULD RECOMMEND APPOINTING HER TO THE FULL YEAR TERM. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON STILL INTERESTED IN AND AND I AM AS WELL I'M ASSUMING MS. BERGERON IS AS WELL. SO COUNCIL I WOULD LOOK FOR A MOTION APPOINT MYSELF MAYOR BUSSEY AND COUNCILMEMBER NELSON AND ON AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR BERGMAN TO THE BLOOMINGTON MINNESOTA TRAVEL AND TOURISM BOARD OF DIRECTORS.  WITH ONE YEAR TERMS EXPIRING DECEMBER 31ST 2025. SECOND MOTION MY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO SECOND MY COUNCILMEMBER TO MAKE THE APPOINTMENTS THE BLOOMINGTON MINNESOTA TRAVEL AND TOURISM BOARD FOR THE COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I A POINT OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO. ITEM 5.10 IS OUR COUNCIL SECRETARY.  THIS ONE IS PINS AND NEEDLES KIND OF STUFF. COUNCIL I WOULD LOOK A MOTION TO APPOINT SAFA MERCER AS COUNCIL SECRETARY AS SECRETARY OF THE COUNCIL FOR A TERM OF JANUARY 1ST 2025 TO DECEMBER 31ST 2025 AND DENISE CHRISTIANSEN ASSISTANT TO THE CITY MANAGER AS THE ACTING SECRETARY WHEN THE SECRETARY ABSENT.  CAN I MAKE ONE COMMENT? MAYOR THANK YOU.  I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO MS.. MERCER AND TO MS.. CHRISTIANSEN FOR ALL THE WORK THAT THEY DO.  I KNOW THIS JOB ISN'T EASY SO WE APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK YOU DO TO MAKE OUR LIVES EASIER SO WE CAN CONTINUE THE WORK HERE. AND SO WITH THAT I WOULD MOVE TO APPOINT SAFA MERCER COUNCIL SECRETARY AS SECRETARY TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR A TERM OF JANUARY 1ST, 2025 TO DECEMBER 31ST, 2025 AND DENISE CHRISTIANSEN, EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT TO THE CITY MANAGER AS THE ACTING SECRETARY WHEN THE SECRETARY IS ABSENT THIS MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER MOUA IS SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO TO MAKE OUR COUNCIL SECRETARY APPOINTMENT NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION SIX ZERO CONGRATULATIONS SO FAR ALL ITEM 5.11 IS THE METRO CITY'S BOARD OF DIRECTORS APPOINTMENT BEING IN BLOOMINGTON OFFICIALLY HAS A PERMANENT SPOT ON THE METRO CITY BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND  MR. FAROOQI WAS OUR REPRESENTATIVE TO THE THAT BOARD HE'S STEPPING ASIDE AND STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED THAT THE MAYOR BE APPOINTED TO THE METRO CITY'S BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND SO I WOULD LOOK FOR A MOTION TO APPOINT MYSELF MAYOR OF THE SEAT OF THE METRO CITY'S BOARD OF DIRECTORS COUNCILMEMBER NELSON I TO THAT I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK A QUESTION WELL LET'S GET IT ON THE TABLE FIRST AND THEN HAVE THE DISCUSSION. SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO SECOND THAT COUNCILMEMBER NELSON COUNCILMEMBER QUESTION JUST BECAUSE I SECOND IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN I'M TO VOTE FOR IT THIS I JUST MY QUESTION IS JUST CURSORY PROBABLY IS THERE ANY REASON OR DOWNSIDE TO CHANGE IN FROM A STAFF PERSON TO AN ELECTED ON THIS BOARD I DON'T KNOW THE ENTIRETY OF THE MAKEUP AND HOW IT INTERACTS AND THINGS I KNOW THAT MAYOR YOU'LL DO A FANTASTIC JOB REPRESENTING THE COMMUNITY IT'S NOT THAT I JUST. IS THERE ANY DOWNSIDE TO HAVING SOMEONE THAT ISN'T STAFF?  MR. FURBERG THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AND COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER NELSON THE OF THE METRO CITY'S BOARD IS A COMBINATION OF ELECTED AND APPOINTED OFFICIALS THE MY MY RECOMMENDATION OF THE MAYOR IS THAT HISTORICALLY BLOOMINGTON'S SEAT HAS EITHER BEEN THE MAYOR OF THE CITY MANAGER THAT OCCUPIES IT THAT EXPLAINS WHY YOU DIDN'T CHOOSE ME THEN?  COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO I JUST HAD A DIFFERENT QUESTION IS THERE A TIME IS THERE THERE'S NO TIME LIMIT ON THIS. SO DOES THIS THIS IS AN APPOINTMENT UNTIL IT'S BROUGHT UP AGAIN FOR REAPPOINTMENT LIKE YOU DON'T WANT TO ANYMORE AS OPPOSED TO LIKE WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THIS ONE ANNUALLY. IS THAT RIGHT? I BELIEVE THIS IS AN ANNUAL APPOINTMENT COUNCILMEMBER.  AM I CORRECT, MR. RUBY I HAVE TO RESEARCH, MR. MAYOR, WHETHER WE HAVE HAD THIS ON ANNUALLY OR NOT I DON'T THINK THAT IT HAS BEEN BECAUSE THE SEAT IS PERMANENT.  SO I THINK IT'S UP TO THE COUNCIL TO DECIDE IF THEY WANT TO HAVE SOMEBODY ELSE SERVING IN THAT SEAT. OKAY. SO MR. MAYOR WOULD HAVE TO LET US KNOW IF YOU WANTED IT TO CHANGE. OKAY, THANKS. THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO KNOW. THANK YOU.  SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO A POINT.  ME TO THE METRO CITY'S BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR THE COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSE THE MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO AND OUR FINAL APPOINTMENT IS TO THE GREATER METROPOLITAN AREA FOREIGN TRADE ZONE.  NOW IN THE PAST THIS PAST YEAR MYSELF AND MR. FAROOQUI SERVED THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPOINT HOLLY MASIKA POINT OF PORT AUTHORITY ADMINISTRATOR.  I WOULD BE WILLING IF FOLKS WERE INTERESTED IN DIVING THE FOREIGN TRADE ZONE. IF ANYBODY WANTED TO TAKE THAT ON I'D BE I'D BE WILLING TO ENTERTAIN THAT CONVERSATION BECAUSE FRANKLY IT'S JUST FROM A TIMING PERSPECTIVE AND ALL THE THINGS THAT I'VE GOT GOING ON.  IT'S JUST IT'S A BIT MUCH IT'S AN IMPORTANT POSITION. VERY INTERESTING.  KIND OF DENSE BUT INTERESTING STUFF. SO IF IF THERE'S ANY INTEREST IN BY ANOTHER COUNCIL MEMBER COUNCIL MEMBER WOMAN YEAH I HAVE SOME INTEREST IN THAT.  I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS.  I MEAN WHERE DO THEY MEET AND THAT KIND OF THING. SO MR. MAYOR AND MEMBERS COUNCIL MEMBER LOWMAN SO THE GREATER AREA FOREIGN TRADE ZONE THAT'S MULTIPLE IS JOINT POWERS ORGANIZATION BETWEEN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON, THE METROPOLITAN AIRPORTS COMMISSION PREVIOUSLY IN HENNEPIN COUNTY AS PART OF THE JOINT POWERS.  THEY THEY ARE NO LONGER PART OF THE JOINT POWERS JUST BECAUSE OF THEIR INTERPRETATION OF STATE STATUTE AS THEY BE A PARTY TO THE JOINT POWERS. THEY'RE STILL THERE IN IN AND PARTICIPATORY MANNER BUT IT IS JUST THE TWO AGENCIES CURRENTLY. SO THEY JOINTLY WE THE ORGANIZATION ADMINISTERS A FOREIGN TRADE ZONE IS A US DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE DESIGNATION THAT ALLOWS COMPANIES TO ACCESS TRADE ZONE POWERS AND AVOID DUTIES ESSENTIALLY ON ON GOODS THAT ARE MOVING THROUGH THE ZONE. SO IT'S IT'S A NICE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOOL FOR COMPANIES THAT ARE INVOLVED IN IMPORTING GOODS.  SO AS THE MAYOR SAID THERE THERE ISN'T A LOT OF WORK HERE. WE ACTUALLY HAVE SERVICE CONTRACT WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF EMPLOYMENT AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AT THE STATE TO SERVE AS THE ADMINISTRATOR SO INDEED STAFF DOES THE DAY TO DAY WORK. THE BOARD MEETS TYPICALLY EVERY OTHER MONTH AND THAT'S ABOUT AN HOUR HOUR AND A HALF MEETING IS IN THE MORNING OR AT NIGHT IN THE MORNING. IT IS A MORNING MEETING AND WHAT TYPICALLY ABOUT 830 OR 9:00 CAN LOOK AT THE HEADQUARTERS. OH BASICALLY WHERE I GO FOR THEIR THE KNOCK KNOCK OH I CAN LOOK AT AND THEN DEPENDING ON YOU KNOW SORT OF ELSE COUNCILMEMBER NELSON WHEN YOU'RE INTERESTED AS WELL OR OKAY.  ALL RIGHT SO COUNCIL WITH THAT IN MIND I WOULD LOOK FOR A MOTION TO APPOINT COUNCIL LOWMAN AND HOLLY MASIKA PORT AUTHORITY ADMINISTRATOR TO THE GREATER METROPOLITAN AREA FOREIGN TRADE ZONE SOMEWHAT SO MOST OF MY COUNCILMEMBER SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER NELSON TO MAKE THE APPOINTMENT TO THE GREATER METROPOLITAN AREA FOR A TRADE ZONE AND FOR THE COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I'M OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO AND AGAIN MR. METER ONE DOESN'T COME BACK TO US YEAR AFTER YEAR IT'S A PERMANENT APPOINTMENT.  I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW. COUNCILMEMBER YEAH THAT ONE WE HAVE NOT APPOINTED ANNUALLY EITHER. THAT'S GOING THAT'S TYPICALLY BEEN AS A STAFF PERSON HAS TRANSITIONED SO THAT YOU.  MM HMM HMM.  COUNCIL OUR LAST ITEM OF THE EVENING IS ITEM 5.13 OUR CITY COUNCIL POLICY AND ISSUES UPDATES.  WE DIDN'T HAVE A LISTENING SESSION THIS EVENING BECAUSE WE HAD A RECEPTION FOR OUR OMAR BOND RUUD AWARD WINNERS AND SO I DON'T HAVE A LISTENING SESSION TO REPORT ON. I WILL SAY KNOW IN YEARS PAST COUNCIL WE'VE KIND OF DONE WHAT WE CALL THE HOPES AND DREAMS SPEECH AT THIS POINT WHERE EVERYBODY GETS TO CHIME IN AS TO WHAT THEY HOPE TO ACCOMPLISH THIS YEAR AND EVERYTHING.  I THINK COUNCILMEMBER CARTER BROUGHT IT UP VERY CLEARLY. I MEAN WE'VE GOT WE'VE GOT SO MANY THINGS GOING ON AND WE HAVE SUCH LIMITED CAPACITY OUR STAFF WITH OUR COUNCIL WITH WITH ALL OF THE TIME THAT WE HAVE. I THINK MY RECOMMENDATION AGAIN THIS YEAR IS VERY SIMILAR TO LAST YEAR IS THAT WE DIRECT STAFF AND WE AS COUNCIL CONTINUE TO KEEP OUR NOSE TO THE GRINDSTONE AND GET DONE THE WORK THAT WE SAID WE WERE GOING TO GET DONE WHETHER IT'S THE BLOOMINGTON FORWARD PROJECTS, WHETHER IT'S THE PARK RENOVATIONS, WHETHER IT'S JUST THE SERVICE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT ALL THE DIFFERENT WORK THAT WE DO SO WELL AS A CITY AND THAT WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO DO THE NUTS AND BOLTS WORK OF THE CITY THAT OF 91,000 THAT FRANKLY HAS OUTSTANDING SERVICE PROVIDING THAT PROVIDE PROVIDES OUTSTANDING SERVICE TO THEIR TO THE RESIDENTS.  SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO 2025 IS ANOTHER YEAR OF DOING THAT AND LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING OF THE ADVANCEMENTS WE MAKE ESPECIALLY WITH THE BLOOMINGTON FORWARD PROJECTS AND WELL AS YOU KNOW THAT SMALL TASK OF YOU KNOW HIRING A NEW CITY ADMINISTRATOR TO MANAGE CITY MANAGER. SO ANYTHING ELSE COUNCIL THAT COUNCILMEMBER? WOMAN YEAH, JUST ONE LITTLE THING THAT I'VE ALWAYS DONE FOR EITHER STAFF OR COUNCIL HAD BEEN DEPARTING AND I WANTED TO JUST BE SURE THAT I DID SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THE CITY MANAGER IN BRIEF I KNOW THAT WHEN WE FIRST GOT STARTED MANAGER I WAS VERY SKEPTICAL OF WHAT YOU SAID THAT YOU WERE GOING TO ACCOMPLISH AND DO AND I WASN'T A BIG SUPPORTER OF OF COURSE I JUST DIDN'T THINK I DIDN'T BELIEVE THAT YOU'D BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THE STUFF THAT YOU SAID THAT YOU WERE GOING TO DO.  I HAVE TO SAY THAT I'M PRETTY AMAZED AT WHAT YOU'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO OVER THESE LAST TEN YEARS AND I KNOW WHAT YOU WOULD SAY IS YOU'RE VERY HUMBLE GUY AND DON'T KNOW WHAT'S ALL, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL AND THAT KIND OF THING AND BUT I, I LOOK BACK OVER THE THE THE YEARS OF WHEN YOU FIRST WALKED IN TO THIS COUNCIL AND YOU'RE I JUST THINK IT'S JUST SO FITTING THAT THAT IT'S ON TODAY AND I'M GLAD THAT MAYOR YOU MOVED THE THE THE MARTIN KING THE DEDICATION AND PROCLAMATION UP TO TODAY BECAUSE I JUST THINK THAT THIS CITY MANAGER REALLY UNDERSTANDS THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT PARTICULAR CIVIL MOVEMENT AND THE IMPORTANCE OF OF THAT FOR THE FUTURE BLOOMINGTON AND I THINK THAT IS FROM THIS COUNCIL MEMBER'S PERSPECTIVE REALLY THE HALLMARK IN THE LEGACY THAT YOU'RE GOING TO LEAVE HERE IN THIS INSTITUTION IS THAT THAT IMPORTANT EMPHASIS ON THAT PARTICULAR TOPIC AND YOUR ACHIEVEMENTS THAT THAT'S WHY I'M REALLY SORRY TO SEE YOU GO TO ANOTHER INSTITUTION BECAUSE I THINK THAT YOU WERE FOCUSED ON THAT. I THINK ABOUT OUR WALKS WHEN WE WERE IN D.C. AND HOW YOU GIVE A GREAT AND I'M HOPING TO PASS THAT SAME TOUR ON TO MY KIDS AND TALK ABOUT HOW I HAD THE CHANCE TO WALK AROUND THAT GREAT GUY JAMIE FABBRI. AND I THINK OF YOU KNOW, THE WORDS THAT THAT MARTIN LUTHER KING ONCE SAID THE ULTIMATE MEASURE OF A PERSON IS NOT WHERE THEY STAND IN MOMENTS OF COMFORT AND CONVENIENCE BUT WHERE THEY STAND AT TIMES OF CHALLENGE CONTROVERSY. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE APPRECIATED ABOUT YOU AS AN INDIVIDUAL IS THAT YOU'VE BEEN WILLING TO TO REALLY HUMBLY EVEN WHEN THERE WERE SITUATIONS THAT WERE DIFFICULT YOU STILL LOOKED AT THEM. YOU ASKED FOR ADVICE AND YOU WORKED THROUGH THOSE. AND I THINK THAT WHEN WHEN THE COMMUNITY LOOKS AT THAT AND THEY LOOK BACK ON THIS AREA OF BLOOMINGTON GOVERNANCE, THEY'LL SEE THAT WE MADE THAT STEP FORWARD TO TRY TO CREATE A BETTER PLACE FOR ALL PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO DO WELL AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT AND I DON'T WANT THIS DAY TO PASS BY WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO SAY THAT BUT THAT DOES TAKE LEADERSHIP. YOU'VE HAD THAT LEADERSHIP I'VE APPRECIATED LEADERSHIP AND I'M GLAD YOU'VE BEEN HERE FOR THE LAST TEN YEARS AND I'LL MISS THAT THAT EMPHASIS THAT YOU REALLY PLACE ON THAT. AND AGAIN JUST THANK YOU FOR YOUR YOUR HARD WORK, YOUR CARE FOR THE COMMUNITY AND A LOT OF PEOPLE DIDN'T NECESSARILY CARE FOR THAT BUT THAT'S OKAY YOU STILL LOOKED RIGHT IN IT SO I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU, JIM COUNCIL OTHERS LOST MEMBER DALLESSANDRO THANK MR. MAYOR YEAH I'LL ADD MY THANKS AS THE LOWEST RANKING MEMBER OF THE COUNTY COUNCIL THAT'S HERE TONIGHT YOU ON BOARD NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS REALLY WELL AND, I.  I THINK IT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH YOUR WILLINGNESS TO TAKE EVERY PERSON AT FACE VALUE AND TO THINK ABOUT THEM WITH THE BEST OF INTENTION FROM THE GET GO. IT'S A PART OF YOUR DNA I HOPE TO MODEL. I'M GLAD WE GOT TO WORK TOGETHER AND I THANK VERY MUCH FOR THAT. I HAVE FOUR THINGS THAT I BRING UP TO THE INTERIM CITY MANAGERS BECAUSE I THINK THEY'RE JUST CARRYOVERS OF THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT BUT I MIGHT AS WELL PUT THEM OUT THERE IN THE PUBLIC SPHERE. THE FIRST ONE IS RELATED TO RELATED TO THE ONGOING LANDSCAPING CHALLENGES AT FIRE STATION NUMBER FOUR. SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT.  I THINK THERE'S YOU MIGHT EVEN KNOW ABOUT THAT BUT THERE'S SOME CHALLENGES THERE.  THESE ARE ALL IN MY DISTRICT. THE SECOND ONE IS THE CHALLENGES SOME FOLKS HAVE WITH THE WORK THAT ISN'T BEING DONE YET AT STANLEY AVENUE WE DID THE WE DID PASS THE STREETS OR THE SIDEWALK STUFF BUT THEY THEY WANT SOME PEOPLE ON THAT BLOCK WANT THE STREET CLOSED. AND AND I KNOW MR. ROBERTS HAS SAID THAT'S NOT AN OPTION BUT THEY'RE NOT HAPPY WITH THAT. AND SO THEY'RE LOOKING FOR WAYS TO COME TO COUNCIL AND ALSO WE'LL BE WORKING THROUGH THAT AND I WROTE DOWN THE OTHER DOOR AND THEN I CLOSED MY BOOK ZONE REALLY QUICKLY?  OH, TONIGHT WE TALKED ABOUT THIS QUARTERLY CLEANING AREA FROM THE FROM THE GUYS IN THE THE THE STORMWATER FOLKS. I'D LOVE A OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE NOT I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO DO ANYTHING I'M NOT ASKING FOR MORE WORK OR ANYTHING BUT WHAT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE WHAT THAT IS BECAUSE I THAT THERE'S THAT'S INFORMATION THAT'S THAT'S DATA THAT'S REALLY VALUABLE AND I WAS CERTAIN DECISIONS ABOUT THINGS AND I'D LOVE TO KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND THE LAST ONE COUNCILMEMBER YES. AS SOMEBODY WHO DID SEWER JETTING YEAH. IN COLLEGE GO OUT WITH HIM AND DO SEWER JETTING. WELL I SAW THE GUYS ON MY STREET ON 86 STREET TODAY AS I WAS GOING TO THE GYM AND I SAID HELLO TO THEM AND THEY WERE LIKE WHO THE HECK ARE YOU? SO I WAS AFRAID TO GO UP TO THEM BUT I WILL. I WILL I WILL BE VERY INTERESTED FATBERGS TONIGHT. RIGHT AND THEN THE LAST THING IS THERE ARE SOME OPEN QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ANIMAL SHELTER SO WE WANT TO ARE THE ANIMAL CONTROL CENTER SO WE WANT TO GET TO THOSE SO THESE ARE JUST I'M PUTTING THEM OUT THERE LARGELY BECAUSE I THINK THEY'RE CARRYOVER ITEMS CONVERSATIONS THAT I'VE HAD WITH MR. BIGGIE OVER THE LAST SIX MONTHS, QUARTER, WHATEVER THAT NEED TO BE CONTINUED TO MOVE FORWARD AND I JUST WANT THE PUBLIC TO KNOW THAT EVEN WITH THE TRANSITION AND I'M SURE EVERY COUNCIL HERE HAS A LIST LIKE THIS WE'RE KEEPING TRACK OF THOSE THINGS. WE'LL MAKE SURE THEY GET DONE . THANKS AND THANK YOU AGAIN. MR.. FOR REGULATIONS I'LL SAY ANYTHING ELSE LET'S REMEMBER THE MAYOR FIRST JUST THANK YOU TO MS. HER VERY I THINK WHEN I FIRST MET YOU I WAS JUST ON THE INITIAL I HAD NO IDEA WHO YOU WERE WHAT THE CITY DID OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT BUT AS I'VE GONE THROUGH MY PROCESS AND CONTINUE TO TRY TO HELP OUR CITY I THINK YOU HAVE BEEN ONE OF THE THE CORE FUNDAMENTAL FOUNDATIONS THAT WE HAVE HERE IN WASHINGTON THAT HELPS US MOVE THE WORK THAT WE TRY TO DO UP HERE FORWARD AND IT DOES NOT PASS ME BY HOW DIFFICULT YOUR JOB IS AND I DO NOT ENVY YOUR JOB AT ALL BUT I KNOW HOW IMPORTANT IT IS AND IT TAKES A SPECIAL PEOPLE TO DO YOUR TYPE OF WORK. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR DEDICATION AND THANK YOU FOR CONTINUING TO.  MAKE SURE THAT BLOOMINGTON IS A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO BE AND I KNOW THAT CATHOLIC CHARITIES IS VERY LUCKY TO HAVE YOU.  SECONDLY, THE BLOOMINGTON JEFFERSON MIKE'S HOCKEY OUTDOOR CLASSIC IS THIS SATURDAY AT WESTWOOD. SO IF ANYONE THE COMMUNITY WANTS TO COME OUT WATCH SOME FUN HOCKEY THERE'S GOING TO BE FOOD TRUCKS AND JUST COMMUNITY EVENTS GOING ON COME ON OUT AND AND CHECK THAT OUT I'M YEAR TO HOCKEY DAD SO I WILL BE THERE FEEL FREE TO SAY HI AND WATCH THE KIDDOS SLIP INSIDE ON THE ICE AND IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY FUN.  THANKS OTHERS MR. YOU GAVE YOU THE LAST WORD TONIGHT MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS I APPRECIATE THAT I SAID MOST OF WHAT I WANT TO SAY EARLIER TODAY I APOLOGIZE IF I WASN'T AS ELOQUENT AS I HOPE TO.  HERE'S HERE'S THE LAST THING THAT I WOULD SAY.  YEAH, I THINK THAT THIS COUNCIL SHOULD CONTINUE TO STRIVE FOR THINGS AND WANT TO DO WANT TO DO THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO MAKE THE COMMUNITY.  ALL RIGHT. YOU CAN FIND ANYBODY TO JUST MANAGER CITY.  YOU CAN FIND ANYBODY TO BE ELECTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL WHO JUST WANTS TO SHOW UP AND VOTE ON STUFF. BUT IT'S SOMETHING TO FIND PEOPLE TO LEAD. SO I WOULD SAY KEEP LEADING FIND SOMEBODY WHO IS GOING TO JOIN YOU AS A PARTNER IN LEADING THE COMMUNITY AND CONTINUE TO FOCUS ON WHAT YOU THINK IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO TO MAKE THIS THE BEST COMMUNITY THAT PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE IN BECAUSE FRANKLY THAT'S WHAT THIS COUNCIL HAS DONE FOR THE LAST TEN YEARS. THAT'S WHAT'S MADE IT REALLY EXCITING TO BE HERE.  IT'S FUN WORK. IT'S IMPORTANT WORK, IT'S GRATIFYING WORK AND IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE IN PEOPLE'S LIVES. SO KEEP DOING THAT THING.  THANKS FOR LETTING ME DO IT AND THANK YOU  COUNCILOR FOR A MOTION TO ADJOURN.  WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND TO ADJOURN ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I OPPOSE MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO THANK YOU MUCH TO STAFF FOR BEING WITH US THIS EVENING THANK YOU COUNCIL FOR YOUR GOOD WORK THANKS TO EVERYBODY WHO IS FOR OUR VERY IT WAS AN ENJOYABLE A GOOD MEETING I LOVE THE OMAGH BOUNDARY WOULD ALWAYS DO AND APPRECIATE THE THE FEEDBACK FROM SO MANY PEOPLE SO THANKS MUCH EVERYBODY HAVE A GOOD REST YOUR WEEK