##VIDEO ID:pXEKDS_blVQ## .  GOOD EVENING EVERYONE AND WELCOME.  I WILL CALL THIS BLOOMINGTON CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER IT IS MONDAY DECEMBER 16TH, 2024. THANK YOU AND WELCOME TO WHO'S JOINING US HERE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. THANKS TO EVERYONE WHO IS WATCHINGNLINE.  WE WILL START OUR MEETING AS WE ALWAYS DO IF YOU'RE ABLE PLEASE STAND REMOVE ANY COVERINGS AND JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.  I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL ONCE AGAIN.  AND THANKS TO EVERYBODY FOR BEING WITH US TONIGHT. FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS TONIGHT IS THE APPROVAL OF OUR AGENDA AND COUNCIL.  WE HAVE ANOTHER FULL AGENDA TONIGHT UNDER OUR INTRODUCTORY ITEM TWO ITEM 2.1 WE HAVE THE INTRODUCTION OF NEW EMPLOYEES. WE'RE GOING TOEED A COUPLE NEW EMPLOYEES. WE WILL HEAR A PRESENTATION OF THE PORT AUTHORITY'S DRAFT FIVE YEAR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN WHICH I HAVE HEARD ALSO AND YOU'RE GOING BE EXCITED TO HEAR IT. IT'S IT'S GOOD STUFF AND WE ARE GOING TO MAKE SPEAKING OF PORT AUTHORITY AND 2.3 WE'RE GOING TO MAKE AN APPOINTMENT TO THE PORT AUTHORITY OUR COMMISSION OUR CONSENT BUSINESS COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THE CONSENT AGENDA TONIGHT AND WE HAVE 23 ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM FOR OUR HEARINGS, RESOLUTIONS AND ORDINANCES WE HAVE FOR HEARINGS TONIGHT WE HAVE AN 4.1 IS A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING CITY CODE AMENDMENTS REGARDING OUR PARK DEDICATION AND PLANNING STANDARDS.  ITEM 4.2 IS OUR TRUTH AND TAXATION HEARING FOR 2024. IT'S ON OUR 2025 PROPERTY TAX LEVY AND GENERAL FUND BUDGET ITEM 4.3 A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE 2025 THROUGH 2030 FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN AND ITEM 4.4 AS A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING OUR ENERGY BENCHMARK PARKING ORDINANCE. FINALLY OUR ITEM FIVE OUR ORGANIZATIONAL BUSINESS THIS EVENING WILL HAVE A DISCUSSION UNDER ITEM 5.1 ON OUR 2025 LEGISLATIVE PLATFORM ITEM 5.2 A STUDY ITEM WE'LL BE DISCUSSING OUR MISSING HOUSING ISSUE IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AND ITEM 5.3 WE'LL HEAR AN INTRODUCTION OF THE AMERICAN BOULEVARD TRANSIT STUDY THAT BE KICKING OFF HERE SHORTLY. WE'LL WRAP UP AS WE ALWAYS DO WITH ITEM 5.4 A CITY COUNCIL POLICY AND ISSUE UPDATE CONSTANTLY. ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO TONIGHT'S AGENDA HEARING NONE.  I WILL MOVE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA AS STATED SECOND MOTION IN A SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER LONG AND TO ACCEPT TONIGHT'S AGENDA AS STATED NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSE THE MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO AND WE HAVE AN AGENDA OUR FIRST ITEM TONIGHT IS THE INTRODUCTION OF NEW EMPLOYEES AND THINK IT'S IN OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT OUR DIRECTORY BURTON IS GOING TO MAKE THE INTRODUCTIONS I THINK ALL OR NOT WELL WE HAVE TWO FOLKS NOW HERE NICKI AND JAMES. WHY DON'T YOU COME ON UP AND LET SOMEBODY ELSE WANTS TO PINCH IT FOR KIM? PLEASE, PLEASE WHY NOT? WHY NOT? OKAY.  AMY WILL PINCH IT VERY QUICKLY FOR YOU JUST TO GIVE THE INTRODUCTION IN THE HELLO AND THEN WE'LL HEAR FROM YOU EACH. THANKS FOR STEPPING IN . YEAH, NO PROBLEM. GOOD EVENING MAYOR COUNCILMEMBERS I AM PLEASED TO INTRODUCE MY BROTHER MARKSON JIM STARTED IN THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT UNIT A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO AS AN ELECTRICAL INSPECTOR AND WE ALSO HAVE NICKY AND I'M SORRY I DON'T KNOW NICKY'S LAST TRIP TO NICKY DROPPED OUT AND BECAUSE I AM CONTRACTING I DON'T THEIR BIOS SO MAYBE THEY WANT TO INTRODUCE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THEMSELVES AND LET YOU KNOW WHERE THEY CAME FROM AND ANYTHING ELSE THEY WANT TO SAY THAT BE GREAT JIM WHY DON'T YOU START US PLEASE? YEAH MY NAME IS JIM MARKSON. I LIVE IN WEBSTER, MINNESOTA. I'VE BEEN AN ELECTRICIAN SINCE 1993 AND I AM NEW ELECTRICAL INSPECTOR THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. I'M REALLY EXCITED TO HERE.  I'M VERY THANKFUL THAT I HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY AND AND I'M JUST GLAD TO HELP TO THE PEOPLE OF WHERE DO YOU COME TO US FROM JIM PARDON ME WHERE YOU COME TO US FROM? WHERE WERE YOU? WERE YOU PREVIOUSLY? I WAS IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR WORKING ELECTRICAL CONTRACTOR . OKAY, WONDERFUL WELCOME. THANK WELCOME AND NICKIE, WELCOME TO YOU A WELL. THANK YOU SO MUCH I'M NICKY CRYPTO I'M IN THE BUILDING AND INSPECTIONS AREA OFFICE SUPERVISOR AND COMING FROM HEALTH CARE SPECIFICALLY DENTAL I WORKED IN THE DENTAL FIELD FOR 18 YEARS LONG TIME AND I WAS IN BLOOMINGTON FOR SEVEN YEARS RIGHT BEFORE COMING HERE. SO IT'S A FAMILIAR AREA AND I LIVE IN SAINT PAUL AND I HAVE A BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN CRIMINAL JUSTICE A LITTLE ALL OVER THE PLACE QUITE THE BACKGROUND YES YEAH. WELL WELCOME. THANK YOU SO MUCH. BOTH HERE AND YOU BOTH HAVE VERY PUBLIC FACING JOBS. I MEAN YOU'RE GOING TO BE OUT THERE AND PEOPLE GOING TO BE SEEING YOU AND APPRECIATE YOUR REPRESENTATION OF THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON BECAUSE FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE YOU ARE THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON WILL TALK TO THERE TALKING TO THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. SO IT'S A BIG RESPONSIBILITY.  EXPECTATIONS ARE HIGH FOR OUR CITY EMPLOYEES AND WE KNOW THERE WIL BE NOTHING BUT THE BEST FROM BOTH OF YOU. SO WE APPRECIATE YOUR BEING WITH US TONIGHT AND TAKING THE TIME TO SAY HELLO AND LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU AGAIN IN THE FUTURE. THANKS YOU SO MUCH. THANKS VERY MUCH MAYOR. I'M SORRY BUT A QUICK COMMENT I DON'T THINK THE PEOPLE OF BLOOMINGTON UNDERSTAND HOW LUCKY WE ARE TO HAVE OUR OWN ELECTRICAL INSPECTORS IN BUILDINGS HERE BECAUSE AS A LICENSED CONTRACTOR WE'VE RECENTLY RECEIVED NOTICE IN MANY COMMUNITIES THAT DON'T HAVE THEIR OWN ELECTRICAL INSPECTORS THAT THE TIME FRAME FOR THE STATE TO DO THOSE INSPECTIONS HAS BEEN PUSHED NOT JUST A DAY OR TWO BUT A WEEK OR TWO. AND SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE. WE APPRECIATE IT I KNOW THE PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING PROJECTS WITHIN BLOOMINGTON APPRECIATE AND OUR ENTIRE INSPECTIONS TEAM DOES AN AMAZING JOB IT REALLY IS AS SOMEONE WHO WORKS IN THE FIELD I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS DO AND I KNOW MANY OTHER CONTRACTORS DO AS WELL SO THANK YOU. WELL SAID. COUNCIL MEMBER YES. THANK YOU. YOU KNOW NOW WE COULD HIM A ROUND OF APPLAUSE NOW WE THANK YOU THANKS FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT THANK YOU ADAM 2.2 ON OUR AGENDA IS A PRESENTATION OF THE FIVE YEAR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR OUR PORT AUTHORITY HOLLY MUSIC. OUR PORT AUTHORITY ADMINISTRATOR IS HERE AND AS I SAID THIS IS THIS IS EXCITING BECAUSE THIS IS A BIG STEP FORWARD FOR OUR PORT AUTHORITY HERE IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AND COUNCIL. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO YOU HEARING THIS AND EVERYONE IN WHO'S WATCHING AND OBSERVING THIS BECAUSE THIS IS A BIG PLAN AND IT'S AN EXCITING PLAN AND EXCITED TO GET GOING ON IT SO THIS MUSIC GO AHEAD PLEASE. THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL AGAIN, I'M HOLLY MESSICK, THE PORT AUTHORITY ADMINISTRATOR FOR THE CITY OF AND FOR THOSE LISTENING AT HOME THAT IS THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT HERE FOR THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. AND YES, IT IS A BIG PLAN AND IT IS A BIG MILESTONE. BUT IN THE INTEREST OF BREVITY TONIGHT YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR 5 MINUTES ABOUT IT. SO IF ANYONE LIKE TO TALK FURTHER ABOUT IT AFTERWARDS, I'M VERY HAPPY TO SIT DOWN AND TALK WITH YOU AND WE CAN GO OVER THE PLAN IN MORE DETAIL BEFORE I INTRODUCE OUR CONSULTANTS HERE FROM JP STRATEGIES, I JUST WANT TO YOU ALL WITH A BIT OF CONTEXT. YOU'VE ALL HEARD THIS STORY BEFORE BUT THE AUTHORITY EXPANDED RECENTLY IN THE LAST TWO YEARS WE'VE MOVED FROM WORKING JUST IN THE SOUTH LOOP AREA MOSTLY ON DEVELOPMENT AND REDEVELOPMENT TO ACTUALLY WORKING CITYWIDE, REALLY GROWING OUT OUR SERVICES TO INCLUDE A LOT MORE BUSINESS ASSISTANCE AND WE'RE INTENTIONALLY INCORPORATING OUR PLACEMAKING COLLEAGUES INTO OUR WORK AS WELL AND SO WITH THAT VERY BIG CHANGE THE PORT IMPOSED A LEVY TO HELP SUPPORT IT AND IT WAS DECIDED THAT WE SHOULD DO AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO HELP OUR WORK IN THE FUTURE. AND AS PART OF THAT PLAN WE STARTED IN 2023 WITH THE FACILITATED SESSION WITH OUR INTERNAL STAFF TO REALLY TALK ABOUT WHAT WE WANTED IN OUR RFP PROCESS WENT THROUGH OUR SELECTION AND THEN SELECTED EVENTUALLY STRATEGIES HERE TONIGHT TO WORK ON THE PLAN AND WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON IT TOGETHER THROUGHOUT 2024 SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING TONIGHT IS A RESULT OF WORK STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT, RESEARCH DISCUSSION REVIEW OF THE DRAFT AND THEN OUR HOPE IS TO BRING THAT FINAL DRAFT TO THE PORT IN JANUARY. AND SO WITH THAT I WILL INTRODUCE MARCELLE SENIOR PARTNER AT TRIPP STRATEGIES AND ELIZABETH SENIOR CONSULTANT AT TAPE STRATEGIES AND THEN I'LL RETURN TO THE PODIUM QUESTIONS WHEN THEY'RE DONE.  GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME. THANK YOU, MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS, IT'S GOOD TO SEE ALL OF YOU AGAIN. I'M JEFF MARCEL.  I'M A SENIOR PARTNER WITH TIP STRATEGIES AND I'M JOINED BY ELIZABETH SCOTT SENIOR CONSULTANT WITH OUR TEAM. IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE WITH YOU . LET ME SHARE WITH YOU JUST QUICKLY WHAT WE WANT TO COVER THIS EVENING.  WE'LL GIVE YOU A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE PLANNING PROCESS AND IT WE'LL DO A VERY HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN.  IT'S THE DRAFT STRATEGIC PLAN ITSELF. I'LL TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT NEXT STEPS AND AS HOLLY MENTIONED, WE'LL BE AROUND FOR Q&A AND THAT MEANS AFTER THIS MEETING WE'RE MORE THAN HAPPY TO SPEND TIME WITH YOU AS WELL . YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. JUST BY WAY OF BACKGROUND, A QUICK INTRODUCTION TO US WE'RE A NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLANNING FIRM. WE WORK WITH COMMUNITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY HELPING THEM THINK THROUGH PLANS TO DEVELOP AND HEALTHY, VIBRANT ECONOMIES. I ALSO TO START OFF BY RECOGNIZING AND THANKING THE STEERING COMMITTEE MEMBERS THAT HAVE SERVED WITH US FOR MANY, MANY MONTHS. YOU SEE THEIR NAMES HERE. YOU PROBABLY VERY FAMILIAR WITH THESE FOLKS. THEY HAVE BEEN OUTSTANDING TO WORK WITH, CANNOT THANK THEM ENOUGH FOR ALL OF THE TIME AND ATTENTION WHEN YOU READ THAT THIS PLAN THIS IS REALLY THEIR PLAN. AND I WANT TO THANK THEM FOR ALL THEIR INPUT. I ALSO WANT TO RECOGNIZE AND THANK HOLLY AND THE ENTIRE TEAM, THE PORT AUTHORITY. THEY HAVE BEEN BRILLIANT TO WORK WITH AND WE CAN'T SAY ENOUGH ABOUT EVERYTHING THEY HAVE CONTRIBUTED. JUST TO GO QUICKLY THE PLANNING PROCESS THIS HAS BEEN OUR PLANNING SCHEDULE. YOU COULD SEE A HOST OF DIFFERENT TASKS DURING THE LIFE OF THE PROJECT. DURING THE PLANNING PROCESS WON'T GO TO EACH ONE OF THESE BUT I WILL TELL YOU IT'S BEEN A VERY COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING AND IT'S BEEN GROUNDED ON DATA ANALYSIS BUT ALSO STAKEHOLDER INPUT.  OFTEN TIMES WE GET ASKED THE QUESTION WHERE DO THE STRATEGIES AND ACTIONS WE IDENTIFY WHERE DO THEY COME FROM? IT REALLY FOR US THEY COME FROM THREE DIFFERENT PLACES. FIRST WHAT THE COMMUNITY WHAT LEADERS IN THE COMMUNITY WHAT YOU WILL SHARE WITH US WHAT ARE YOUR IDEAS?  WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT YOU WANT TO SEE ACCOMPLISHED HERE IN THE CITY?  BUT WE ALSO PAY A LOT OF ATTENTION TO THE DATA AND WE SPEND AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT TIME LOOKING AT NATIONAL BEST PRACTICES AND WHAT OUR EXPERIENCE DOING THIS OF WORK ALL OVER THE U.S. FOR OVER 30 YEARS BRINGS TO THE TABLE AND IS SPEAKING OF STAKEHOLDER I DID JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE WORK THAT WAS DONE. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF STAKEHOLDER AS A PART OF THIS PROCESS. ELIZABETH AND I HAVE BEEN IN AND BLOOMINGTON MANY TIMES ON MULTIPLE TRIPS. WE HAVE WELL-SERVED AS I MENTIONED BY OUR STEERING COMMITTEE AND THEN WE'VE ALSO SPENT LARGE NUMBER OF A LOT OF TIME DOING ONE ON ONE INTERVIEWS AS WELL AS FOCUS AND ENGAGE WITH OVER 130 PARTICIPANTS THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS.  THERE WERE SOME KEY THEMES THOUGH THAT CAME THROUGH OUT THAT STRESSED THAT STAKEHOLDER INPUT PROCESS I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL OF THESE BUT I WILL HIGHLIGHT JUST A FEW. CERTAINLY EQUITABLE GROWTH WAS A PRIORITY THEME THAT CAME ACROSS DURING ALL OF STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT AND WHAT WE MEAN BY THAT IS THAT REALLY THIS PLAN SHOULD SERVE THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY. IT SHOULD SERVE ALL OF THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. ADDITIONALLY RELATED TO BUSINESS RETENTION EXPANSION AND RECRUITMENT, WE THINK ABOUT SMALL AND THE PRIORITY THAT THEY PLAY IN THIS ECONOMY AND THAT WAS A PRIORITY ESPECIALLY WITH A FOCUS ON WOMEN AND MINORITY OWNED BUSINESSES. AND SO I THINK YOU'LL SEE THAT REFLECTED IN THE PLAN. AND THE LAST ONE I'LL MENTION WAS FOCUSING ON THE SUPPLY CHAIN AND WHAT WE MEAN THERE IS THE CONCENTRATION OF THE SEMICONDUCTOR INDUSTRY THAT EXISTS HERE IN BLOOMINGTON AND TRYING TO MAXIMIZE THAT FOR THE ECONOMIC HEALTH OF THE COMMUNITY. SO THOSE ARE JUST A FEW OF THE KEY THEMES THAT FROM OUR STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT. I'M GOING TO TURN IT TO ELIZABETH TO TAKE YOU THROUGH AN OVERVIEW OF THE PLAN ITSELF . THANK YOU, JEFF AND GOOD EVENING.  AS JEFF MENTIONED THIS REALLY THE PLAN IS REALLY THE CULMINATION OF ALMOST A YEAR LONG PLANNING PROCESS.  THE PLAN ITSELF IS GUIDED BY AN VISION STATEMENT. THIS REALLY SERVES THE NORTHSTAR AND HELPS ALIGN ALL OF THE STRATEGIES ACTIONS IN THAT PLAN IN ADDITION TO THE VISION STATEMENT THERE ARE THE STRATEGY COMMITTEE AS WELL AS THE TEAM AT THE PORT AUTHORITY IDENTIFIED FOUR GUIDING PRINCIPLES THAT ARE WOVEN ALL OF THE STRATEGIES AND ACTIONS IN THE PLAN AND THOSE ARE INCLUSIVE EQUITABLE GROWTH. ALSO ONE OF THE NUMBER ONE THEMES THAT WE HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR DURING OUR STAKEHOLDER.  SUSTAINABILITY THIS INCLUDES BOTH ECONOMIC DIVERSIFICATION AS WELL AS MAINTAINING AND PRESERVING THE LAND THAT IS HERE IN BLOOMINGTON COLLABORATION AND SERVICE AS WELL AS ACCOUNTABLE LRT IN ADDITION TO THE ACTION PLAN THE DELIVERABLES ALSO INCLUDE A STAFFING PLAN HELPS ALIGN STAFF ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES TO THE ACTUAL ACTION PLAN AND THE ACTION PLAN HAS EIGHT DIFFERENT OBJECTIVES TRADED SECTOR THIS FOCUSES ON BUSINESSES THAT SERVE GOODS AND OUTSIDE OF BLOOMINGTON SMALL BUSINESSES.  THAT INCLUDES BOTH LOCAL SECTOR AND TRADE AND SECTOR INNOVATION.  THIS INCLUDES EVERYTHING FROM EXISTING BUT ALSO STARTUPS AND ENTREPRENEURS REAL ESTATE AND INFRASTRUCTURE THRIVING PLACES INCORPORATES THE CREATIVE PLACEMAKING WORK THAT IS ALREADY OCCURRING BUT ALSO COMMERCIAL NODES AND INVESTING IN AREAS THROUGHOUT AND REALLY INCORPORATING AND MAKING THIS PLAN SERVE THE ENTIRE CITY. TALENT ATTRACTION AND RETENTION AND WRAPAROUND SERVICES. THIS INCLUDES EVERYTHING FROM MOBILITY TO CHILD CARE TO HOUSING ALL OF THE THINGS THAT A WORKFORCE AND BUSINESSES NEED TO SUPPORT THEIR TO BE ABLE TO GROW AND THRIVE HERE. AND THE LAST AREA MARKETING EVENTS.  THIS ALSO INCLUDES COMMUNICATIONS.  IT'S REALLY GROUNDED IN STORYTELLING AROUND WHAT THE PORT AUTHORITY WHAT BLOOMINGTON IS DOING AND WITH THAT NEXT STEP. SO WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE?  WHILE JEFF AND I ARE IN TOWN WILL TOMORROW WILL BE LEADING IMPLEMENTATION WORKSHOP WITH THE PORT AUTHORITY TEAM HELPING TO ALIGN PRIORITIES AND DEVELOPING WORK PLANS. WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE WHERE ADDITIONAL REFINEMENTS NEED TO BE MADE THROUGHOUT THE ACTION PLAN OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT MONTH WILL BE FINALIZING THAT DRAFT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN AND WE EXPECT THAT THE FINAL DELIVERABLES WILL BE HERE BY THE END JANUARY AND 2025 AND AS WE SAID WE'RE HAPPY TO RESPOND TO ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE RIGHT NOW AND IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE LATER ON, WE'RE MORE THAN WILLING TO SPEND A LITTLE BIT OF TIME WITH YOU. SO MR. MAYOR, APPRECIATE THANK YOU MUCH AND THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION. THE ONE QUESTION THAT JUMPED TO MY MIND WEEK WE HAD A GREAT PRESENTATION BOTH AT THE PORT AND I THINK YOU'RE AT THE THE COUNCIL THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS ON THE SMALL BUSINESS SURVEY AND I WOULD LOOK TO YOU AND ALSO TO HARLEY THE BUSINESS THE OVERALL BUSINESS SURVEY.  HOW ARE THE TWO PLANS HOW DO THE RESULTS OF THE SURVEY FIT TOGETHER WITH THE THE THE AUTHORITY'S PLANS? ABSOLUTELY. MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. SO THAT SURVEY WAS DONE INITIALLY I BELIEVE IN 2020 AND WAS JUST RECENTLY AGAIN AND WE SAW FROM THAT SURVEY AN IMPROVEMENT IN HOW WE ARE INTERACTING WITH BUSINESSES AND I WOULD SAY THE BASELINE WAS ALREADY PRETTY POSITIVE BUT IT'S DEFINITELY STRENGTHENING AND SO I THINK THAT REINFORCES THE WORK THAT WE ARE DOING WITH THE SMALL BUSINESS COMMUNITY AS WELL AS THE LARGE BUSINESS COMMUNITY REALLY GROWING THOSE RELATIONSHIPS HAS COME TO THE FOREFRONT AS IMPORTANT DOING IT VERY INTENTIONAL OUTREACH AND THAT WORK IS INCLUDED IN THIS PLAN AS WELL THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO OFFER THOSE SERVICES AND ALSO BECOME MORE SYSTEMATIC ABOUT SOME OF THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING TO MAKE SURE WE CAN REALLY TRACK WE WILL BE IMPLEMENTING A CUSTOMER RELATIONSHIP MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE VERY SOON SO THE PORT WILL ABLE TO TRACK THOSE INTERACTIONS. WE'LL BE ABLE TO KEEP MORE FOCUS LISTS OF GROUPS THAT WE WORK WITH AND WE'LL ALSO BE ABLE TO SHARE THAT WITH OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT THAT SPEAK TO BUSINESSES AND FABULOUS AND ONE OF THE GOALS OF COURSE BEING ALIGNMENT WHICH MEANS A LOT OF THINGS AND A LOT DIFFERENT WAYS BUT I WOULD THINK THE THE PORT AUTHORITY PLAN IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE RESULTS OF THE SMALL BUSINESS OR THAT BUSINESS SURVEY I THINK MAKES PERFECT AND I'M SURE YOU ALL CAN APPRECIATE AND UNDERSTAND SO MR. MAYOR COUNCIL ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS HERE.  COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. REAL QUICK I'M CURIOUS ABOUT HOW YOU'RE THINKING THE ACTIONABILITY OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT COME FROM THE THE YOU KNOW, FROM YOUR PRESENTATION AS WE THINK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE FOR EXAMPLE YOU KNOW, THERE ARE THERE ARE ALWAYS SOME THINGS THAT WE COULD DO IN THE FIRST YEAR IN THE SOME THINGS THAT WILL TAKE 3 TO 5 YEARS. AND YOU KNOW, I'M JUST KIND OF CURIOUS HOW IF YOU KNOW AT THIS POINT HOW THINGS ARE LAYING OUT LIKE HOW MANY TRULY ,YOU KNOW, ACTIONABLE THINGS WE'RE GOING TO GET IN THE FIRST COUPLE OF YEARS VERSUS WHAT WHAT YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT MORE STRATEGICALLY IF YOU CAN KIND OF LAY THAT OUT IN TERMS OF PERCENTAGES OR BACK OF THE NAPKIN, I REALIZE IT'S NOT FINAL YET. THANKS.  MR. MAYOR, COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO AND COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTION THAT ACTUALLY LEADS VERY WELL INTO WHAT WE WILL BE DOING TOMORROW. SO YOU SAW EIGHT OVERARCHING OBJECTIVES OF THE PLAN AND EACH ONE OF THEM HAS A NUMBER OF SOME BULLETS I WOULD SAY. I MEAN IT'S BULLETS AND THEN SOME BULLETS SO PROBABLY 3 TO 4 EACH AND SO WE'LL BE BREAKING THAT DOWN TOMORROW TO TALK ABOUT JUS THAT. THIS IS MEANT TO BE A PLAN THAT SERVES US FOR FIVE YEARS AND ALSO POINTS A LITTLE BIT BEYOND FIVE YEARS. SO WE'LL BE BREAKING IT DOWN INTO WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO IN THREE MONTHS, SIX MONTHS, FIRST YEAR, FIRST THREE YEARS ETC.. DO YOU HAVE SPECIFICS HOW MANY OBJECTIVES OR HOW MANY POINTS THERE WERE? I CAN'T RECALL.  I DON'T HAVE THAT. I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. BUT I CAN TELL YOU COUNCILMEMBER, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THAT WE THE APPROACH THAT WE TAKE WHEN WE THINK ABOUT PLANNING TO YOUR POINT IT'S A IT'S A LARGE THERE'S A LOT OF CONTENT IN THE DOCUMENT.  BUT WHAT WE TRY TO DO WE END UP DOING IS PROVIDING WHAT WE CALL AN IMPLEMENTATION MATRIX. IT'S BASICALLY SPREADSHEET. IT INCLUDES EVERY RECOMMENDATION, EVERY ACTION THAT'S INCORPORATED ALONG WITH A CATEGORY UNDER PRIORITIZATION WHAT SHOULD BE DONE THE FIRST YEAR? WHAT SHOULD BE DONE SECOND, THIRD, FOURTH, FIFTH WE'LL WORK WITH THE TEAM AT THE CORE TO IDENTIFY PRIORITY AREAS AND TIMEFRAMES FOR SOME OF THE TASKS TO GET ACCOMPLISHED AND . WE'LL ALSO BE IDENTIFYING METRICS AND MILESTONES ASSOCIATED WITH ALL OF THOSE TASKS SO THAT YOU CAN MEASURE WHAT'S GOING ON OVER THE LIFE OF THE PLAN AND AS HOLLY REFERENCED AND YOU REFERENCED THIS IS A FIVE YEAR PLAN SO EVERYTHING IN THE DOCUMENT DOESN'T HAVE TO GET ACCOMPLISHED ON ON THE FIRST YEAR. WE TRY TO MAKE SURE FOLKS APPRECIATE THAT IS A LARGE PLAN. THERE'S A LOT OF CONTENT BUT IT'S AN PLAN AND THE TEAM AT THE PORT IS IS EXCEPTIONAL AND WE HAVE ALL THE CONFIDENCE IN THE WORLD OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS THAT ALL OF THOSE TASKS WILL BE UNDERTAKEN.  ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? COUNCIL YOU'RE NOT. THANK YOU. THANKS FOR BEING WITH US TONIGHT AND LOOKING FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO SEE THIS MOVE. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.  ALSO ITEM 2.3 IS SOMEWHAT RELATED. WE HAVE AN APPOINTMENT TO BE MADE TO THE PORT AUTHORITY COMMISSION AND AS A REMINDER THIS IS A JUST A TOUCH DIFFERENT THAN OUR OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT THE THE PORT AUTHORITY COMMISSIONER APPOINTMENTS ARE MAYORAL APPOINTMENTS AND SO I'LL MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION AND LOOK FOR THE THE CONSENT OF THE COUNCIL AS WE MOVE FORWARD ON THIS. BUT THIS IS OFFICIALLY A MAYORAL APPOINTMENT AND WE HAD ONE OPENING ON OUR PORT AUTHORITY AND HOLLY I THINK DESCRIBED VERY WELL WHAT OUR PORT AUTHORITY IS IT'S OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ARM OF THE CITY.  WE HAD ONE OPENING AND WE HAD FOUR APPLICANTS AND I WILL SAY VERY GOOD.  WE HAD GOOD CONVERSATIONS WITH A NUMBER OF APPLICANTS A WE'RE EXCITED TO TO TALK TO THEM AND WITH THE POSSIBILITIES THAT EACH OF THEM MIGHT HAVE BROUGHT TO THE POSITION.  ONE OF THOSE CANDIDATES WAS A LONGTIME MEMBER OF THE PORT AUTHORITY CYNTHIA HUNT AND CYNTHIA HAS EXTENSIVE BACKGROUND EXPERIENCE IN THE BANKING INDUSTRY. SHE'S GOT HER BANKING BACKGROUND WITHIN THE PORT AUTHORITY. I THINK DATING BACK AT LEAST A COUPLE OF DECADES. SHE WAS ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION. SHE'S GOT EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE THE COMMUNITY AND WHILE OTHER CANDIDATES AS I SAID WERE WERE VERY GOOD AND EXCITED THE GROUP IN A NUMBER OF WAYS THE THE INTERVIEW PANEL WHICH CONSISTED OF MYSELF AND HOLLY MUSIC THE PORT AUTHORITY ADMINISTRATOR AND BOB WHO'S THE PRESIDENT OF THE PORT AUTHORITY WE CAME TO THE CONSENSUS THE CONCLUSION THAT TO REAPPOINT CYNTHIA HUNT TO A SIX YEAR TERM ON THE PORT AUTHORITY WAS THE FORWARD THAT WE SHOULD TAKE. AND SO COUNCIL THAT IS WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND TO YOU AND WOULD LOOK FOR WE'D LOOK FOR NODDING APPROVAL AND WOULD ASK YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS TO BE MADE ON IT. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER THANK YOU MAYOR. SO I JUST WANTED TO CHIME IN SO OBVIOUSLY I THINK OF YOU KNOW THAT I SERVED ON THE PORT MY FIRST TERM ON CITY COUNCIL AND SO GOT TO WORK WITH CYNTHIA DURING MY TIME ON THE BODY AND I WOULD JUST SAY THAT SHE WAS WONDERFUL TO WORK WITH SHE WAS NEVER AFRAID TO SPEAK MIND AND DISAGREE AND I THINK HAS OBVIOUSLY PROVIDED VERY VALUABLE INSIGHTS AND SO I HAVE GREAT RESPECT FOR HER NAME. I SUPPORT YOUR YOUR SUGGESTION I DO HAVE ONE OTHER COMMENT THOUGH PLEASE. SO SINCE THESE ARE SIX YEAR TERMS THERE ISN'T A LOT OF TURNOVER ON THE PORT AND I THINK WE'RE VERY LUCKY THAT WE HAVE MEMBERS OF THE PORT AUTHORITY WHO WANT TO CONTINUE TO SERVE TERM AFTER TERM AND I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT PROVIDE THAT HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE BUT I ALSO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO BRING IN SOME NEW FRESH IDEAS AND FRESH PERSPECTIVES AND SO I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT WE SUPPORT SOMEBODY ELSE TONIGHT, BUT I DO THINK THAT WE SHOULD HAVE A REALLY INTENTIONAL STRATEGY OF THINKING ABOUT HOW WE DO THAT AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE OVER THE LONG TERM.  AND THEN I DID SEE A NOTE HERE THAT STATES DUE TO LIMITED SEATS, STAFF WILL CONSIDER ESTABLISHING COMMITTEES TO HELP ADVANCE THE FIVE YEAR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN. AND I THINK THAT THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. YES. AND I THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER AND AGREE COMPLETELY WITH YOUR COMMENTS AND YOUR STATEMENTS HERE.  BUT YES, THE CONVERSATION IS ONGOING. WE HAVE HAD THAT CONVERSATION WITHIN THE PORT AUTHORITY AND WITHIN THE PORT ADMINISTRATION TO TRY AND FIND TO TO CONTINUE THE CONTINUITY BECAUSE THAT THAT INSTITUTIONAL MEMORY IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE WORK THAT THE PORT AUTHORITY DOES. BUT AT THE SAME TIME TO LOOK FOR WAYS TO TO TRY AND BRING IN FRESH IDEAS AND PERHAPS NEW FACES WHEREVER POSSIBLE. SO COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO, I SAW YOUR HAND UP EARLIER AND THANKS, MR. MAYOR.  IT'S IT'S PRETTY ADJACENT TO THE CONVERSATION THAT THAT COUNCILMEMBER WAS ASKING OBVIOUSLY NOT NOT A DISCUSSION EXPLICITLY MZ HUNT SO MUCH AS AS WE TALK ABOUT BECAUSE IT'S A SIX YEAR TERM WE TALK ABOUT THAT THE GOAL DIVERSITY AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE ON THE COUNCIL AND YET WE HAVEN'T CHANGED THAT THAT SPECIFIC AUTHORITY IN MANY, MANY YEARS . SO I'M ACTUALLY KIND OF SURPRISED THAT THIS YEAR GIVEN THE FACT THAT WE HAD A COUPLE OF PRETTY STRONG CANDIDATES THAT WE WOULDN'T MAKE THAT MOVE. ALL THAT HAVING BEEN SAID I KNOW IT'S NOT MY MY JOB TO MAKE ANY CONTRARY RECOMMENDATION OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT BUT I JUST WANT PEOPLE TO I WOULD LIKE US TO SEE MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. THANKS. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER.  I'D JUST LIKE TO REITERATE THE SAME IDEA OF BOTH COUNCILMEMBER CARTER AND AND THE ALESSANDRA AS I WAS READING PACKET I MADE A LOT OF NOTES IN REGARDS THIS THE GOAL IS TO TO PROVIDE THE ENTIRE CITY WITH A VOICE SAYS IN THERE BASED ON WHAT THE CITY STATES AND SO FAR WHAT I SEE IS THE SAME PEOPLE FOR SO MANY YEARS TO THE EXTENT THAT THE OTHER NIGHT I HEARD A SOMEBODY HAD BEEN THERE FOR 40 YEARS. RIGHT. SO TO ME IT PERPETUATES THE SAME IDEAS, THE SAME BULLS AND IT'S NOT THAT THE GOALS WRONG, IT'S JUST THAT THE REALITY IS THAT WE SHOULD HAVE DIFFERENT PEOPLE IN THERE NOT JUST FOR CHANGE BUT BEFORE THE MERE REASON THAT EVERYBODY HAS DIFFERENT POINTS OF VIEW. I KNOW ALL OF THAT BEING EXPRESSED RIGHT NOW IN MANY WAYS FROM WHAT I HAVE LEARNED IN THE ABOUT A YEAR OF BEING HERE, HE SAID EVERYTHING GOES ONE WAY BECAUSE NOT THE LACK, NOT BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF IDEAS BUT BECAUSE EVERYBODY IS CENTERED IN ACCOMPLISHING THE GOAL WITHOUT ANY DISCUSSION FOR AN OUTSIDER'S IF HE FEELS MORE LIKE HIS IS THE GOOD OLD BOYS FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORDS JUST HAVING WITH THE SAME CONTINUATION OF IDEAS AND PLANS WITHOUT ANY CHALLENGING TO ME IT'S YOU KNOW AGAIN I HAD NO SAY IN WHO APPOINTED TO THIS POSITION BUT AT THE SAME TIME THE CITY'S CONTRADICTING WHAT ITS GOALS ARE BY APPOINTING THE SAME PEOPLE OVER OVER FROM ONE COMMISSION TO THE OTHER AND WE DON'T SEE ANY CHANGE IN PEOPLE AND NO NEW IDEAS COMING IN THANK YOU THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER AND I WILL SAY THE OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS ACTUALLY HAVE THE BENEFIT OF TERM LIMITS AND SO THOSE DO TURN OVER ON A REGULAR BASIS FOR SOME REASON AS THE PORT AUTHORITY WAS SET UP THERE WAS NO THERE WERE NOT TERM LIMITS PUT IN PLACE WHEN WHEN THE PORT AUTHORITY WAS SET UP DECADES AGO AND I HAVE NO IDEA WHY. SO IT'S PART OF THE CONVERSATION PART OF ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS POSSIBLE WAYS THAT WE COULD TOOLS THAT WE COULD USE TO TRY AND TURN THE TURN THE COMPOSITION THE PORT AUTHORITY OVER COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN YOU KNOW, MAYOR WASN'T GOING TO SAY ANYTHING IT COMES FROM A CARTER ADMISSION THIS THE THE LIMITATION TO THE TO THE BOARD ITSELF IN TERMS OF HOW MANY PEOPLE YOU APPOINT ON THERE I KNOW YOU REPLACED A LONG TERM MEMBER OF THAT AND BROUGHT NEW FRESH IDEAS TO THE IDEA.  THEN COUNCILMEMBER CARTER STEPPED ASIDE AND SO THAT AND I KNOW THAT YOU ARE COMMITTED TO THAT THAT IDEA AND YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT IDEA OF BRINGING NEW FOLKS THERE. BUT I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER AND YOU'VE MENTIONED IT TO THE INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF TURNOVER WE'VE SEEN IN OUR OUR STAFF OVERALL TOO.  AND I THINK THIS IS AN IMPORTANT POINT TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. SO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, HAVE HAVE FOLKS THAT KIND OF KNOW WHERE HAVE BEEN AND THAT TYPE OF THING. SO YOU KNOW, I YOU KNOW, I TRUST LEADERSHIP IN TERMS OF WHEN IT MAKES SENSE TO KIND OF MAKE THAT MOVE SO THAT WE DON'T PUT OUR OUR DEVELOPMENT FUTURE AT RISK.  SO I WILL BE SUPPORTING YOU.  WHAT DO YOU PUT FORWARD HERE TODAY? THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER. I DO APPRECIATE THAT SO COUNCIL AS I SAID THIS IS A MAYORAL APPOINTMENT I I INTEND TO APPOINT CYNTHIA.  I APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK AND APPRECIATE THE THE DISCUSSION HERE I CAN'T SAY I DISAGREE WITH ANY OF IT BUT TONIGHT I THINK CYNTHIA IS THE BEST PERSON TO SERVE ON THE PORT AUTHORITY MOVING FORWARD AND I HOPE THAT WE GET YOUR BLESSING AND ULTIMATE SUPPORT TO CYNTHIA AS SHE SPENDS HER NEXT TERM ON THE PORT AUTHORITY.  SO ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR.  SO I WILL MOVE THE APPOINTMENT OF CYNTHIA HUNT TO THE PORT AUTHORITY FOR LET ME SEE IF I GET THIS CORRECTLY.  I WILL MOVE I WILL MOVE WITH THE COUNCIL APPROVAL TO APPOINT CYNTHIA HUNT TO THE FOLLOWING TERM JANUARY 1ST, 2025 TO DECEMBER 31ST, 2031 TO THE PORT AUTHORITY MOTION IN A SECOND TO APPOINT CYNTHIA HUNT TO THE PORT.  ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED THE MOTION CARRIES SIX ONE WITH COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS IN OPPOSITION WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM THREE OUR CONSENT AGENDA COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO HAS A CONSENT BUSINESS TONIGHT.  COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO I DO, YES, MR. MAYOR WE HAVE A NUMBER OF HOLDS WE'RE GOING TO HOLD 3.1, 3.2, 3.3 AS WE ALWAYS DO FOR DONATIONS.  COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS AND COUNCILMEMBER NELSON AND MYSELF I THINK ALL HAVE QUESTIONS ON 3.1 AND 3.2 I'M GOING TO HOLD 3.1, 3.8 AND THEN 3.15.  SO IF ANY OTHER HOLDS I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS THE FINAL HOLD? YEAH. YEP.  3.15 15I THOUGHT YOU SAID 25 AND IT THAT WOULD BE A STRETCH I COULD MAKE ONE UP. NO THAT WOULD BE GOOD. WE'VE GOT PLENTY HONESTLY I THINK WE HAVE PLENTY ARE DO I HAVE ANY OTHER HOLDS FROM ANY OTHER COUNCIL COUNCILMEMBERS?  OKAY, IF THAT'S THE CASE THEN I APPRECIATE THAT THEN I AM GOING TO MOVE ITEMS 3.4 TO 3.7 ITEMS 3.9 TO 3.14 PI 3.16 TO 3.22 OF TONIGHT'S CONSENT AGENDA SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER ACCEPT TONIGHT'S CONSENT BUSINESS AS STATED NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES IT SEVEN ZERO SO WE'LL GO THROUGH THE HOLDS NOW WE'LL START WITH ITEM 3.1 THE RESOLUTION APPROVING THE 2025 RECREATION FACILITY FUND BUDGETS.  I THINK PART OF MY QUESTION WAS THE INCENTIVE WAS LOOKING FOR A VERY QUICK CLARIFICATION. THE THE WHEN WE GOT WE PUT QUESTIONS OUT THERE TODAY THE QUESTION I RECEIVED OR THE INFORMATION WE RECEIVED BACK WAS THAT THE THE ENTERPRISE FUND BUDGET FOR THAT ONE GOLF COURSE WAS THERE WAS $300,000 IN THERE FOR A A SPECIFIC STUDY BUT IT SOUNDED LIKE IT WAS GOING TO COME OUT OF OF OF CAPITAL DOLLARS.   I GUESS MY QUESTION WOULD BE IF WE IF IF WE'RE NOT THAT ARE WE ACTUALLY SPENDING THOSE CAPITAL DOLLARS AND IF SO, WHERE WE SPENDING THOSE CAPITAL DOLLARS?  MR. PRUITT I'M GOING TO I'M LOOKING TO PERKIN REC DIRECTOR NO, WE'RE GOING TO GET WE'RE GOING TO GET COREY CARLSON, OUR DEPUTY FINANCE OFFICER CAN YOU CAN YOU RESTATE THE QUESTION ONE MORE TIME? YES, SURE. ABSOLUTELY. IF I IF I HAD IT CORRECT,  THERE WAS A SPECIFIC ITEM IN IN THE D1 GOLF COURSE ENTERPRISE BUDGET FOR DESIGN REVIEW. I  THINK IT WAS IT WAS ABOUT A $300,000 RELATED TO THE RENOVATION. I ASSUME IT WAS RELATED TO THE RESORT RENOVATION. WE SAID NOT TO DO THAT THIS YEAR AND THE RESPONSE WAS THAT'S THAT'S IT'S IN THERE BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT. SO THERE'S BUT THERE'S NO IMPACT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER TO THE LEVY. AND I MY QUESTION IS WELL THEN DOES THAT MEAN WE'RE SPENDING IT SOMEWHERE ELSE IS WHAT I'M ASKING. YEAH SO MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS COUNCIL COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO SO SINCE THAT WILL NOT GO FORWARD BUT IT WAS IN THE ORIGINAL BUDGET THAT WAS BROUGHT FORWARD TT MONEY WILL NOT BE SPENT SO IT WILL REMAIN IN THE WORKING CAPITAL FUND BALANCE OTHAT FUND SO IT WILL BASICALLY IN THE CASH OF THAT FUND SO IT'LL JUST STAY THERE BECAUSE THE DWAN GOLF COURSES ITS OWN SEPARATE FUND SO ANY MONEY THAT'S NOT SPENT 2025 WILL JUST FALL DOWN TO THE CASH BALANCE FUND AND BE AVAILABLE FOR FUTURE USE AND IT'S AN IT'S IT'S AVAILABLE TO OFFSET ANY OTHER FUNDING THAT MIGHT FROM FOR EXAMPLE THE LEVY TOWARDS DUNN GOLF COURSES IT YES MERE COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILWOMAN ELIZONDO THE 2025 BUDGET FOR THE GOLF COURSE DOES NOT HAVE ANY PROPERTY TAX SUBSIDY. YEAH OKAY GREAT THANK YOU APPRECIATE ADDITIONAL COUNCIL QUESTIONS ON ITEM 3.1 COUNCIL MEMBER NELSON YEAH, THANKS. I DON'T KNOW THAT I HAVE TO MY QUESTIONS HERE BUT AND WE'VE TALKED ALL THESE THINGS SO A SUPER QUICK AQUATICS I UNDERSTAND THAT THE LEVY THE PROPERTY TAX AMOUNT WENT DOWN WHAT IT'S GOING TO GO BACK UP IN FUTURE YEARS I'M CONCERNED ABOUT ANY CAPITAL EXPENDITURES IN THIS YEAR UNTIL WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE AQUATICS AND THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER LOOKS LIKE GIVEN THAT WE'RE GOING BACK TO A 500,000 OR SO SUPPORT FOR A FACILITY THAT'S OPEN ABOUT 12 WEEKS A YEAR VERSUS A FACILITY THAT WILL BE OPEN 50 SOME WEEKS A YEAR.  I HAD THE SAME QUESTION WITH REGARDS TO THAT I WOULD ASK JUST A SIMPLE QUESTION ABOUT THE DWAN 330,000 IF IT'S POSSIBLE FOR US TO JUST REMOVE THAT SO WE KNOW FOR SURE THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO GET SPENT AND AS I'VE RAISED BEFORE I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE CENTER OF THE ARTS THE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS INCREASE INCLUDING SOME OF THE STAFFING AND THEIR NATURE PARTICULARLY WHEN I BELIEVE THAT IN 2025 WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING A FULL REVIEW OF THE CENTER FOR THE ARTS AND I WOULD, AS I HAVE SAID BEFORE, PREFER TO JUST PUSH THAT INTO THAT STUDY AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT. TOTALLY RESPECT THAT WE HAVE INDIVIDUAL THAT'S WORKING SIGNIFICANTLY AND DOING A GREAT JOB BUT YOU KNOW ADDING TWO POSITIONS IN THIS BUDGET IS A LITTLE UNCOMFORTABLE FOR . ME SO THOSE ARE THOSE ARE MY THREE ITEMS ON THAT THANK YOU. MR. FERRUCCI THANK YOU MR. MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER NELSON REGARDING THE DEMAND THERE REALLY ISN'T ANYTHING TO TAKE OUT OF THE BUDGET JUST BECAUSE THE PROJECT IS DELAYED SO THAT FUNDING OR THAT THAT EXPENDITURE WON'T MADE UNTIL YOU START MOVING THAT PROJECT FORWARD. SO IT JUST IS JUST THE WORKING CAPITAL BALANCE FOR.  THE GOLF FUND WILL JUST STAY AS IT IS UNTIL THE NUMBER IS EXPENDED AND YOU KNOW IF THE QUESTION IS WHAT ASSURANCE DO WE HAVE THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE SPENT IN AMOUNT OF THAT MUCH HAS TO COME THROUGH COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL SO THAT'S ONE CHECK ON THAT THE AQUATIC CENTER YOU CERTAINLY CAN AS A COUNCIL INDICATE TO STAFF THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS ANY CAPITAL EXPENDITURES.  THOSE ARE APPROVED AGAIN IF THEY ARE UNDER THE THRESHOLD OF DOLLARS THAT NORMALLY WOULD COME BEFORE COUNCIL. SO IF COUNCIL WISHES TO DISCUSS WHETHER IT'S APPROPRIATE TO MAKE INVESTMENTS IN 25, I THINK THE TIME TO DO THAT WOULD BE NOW TO DECLARE STAFF THAT IF WE ARE GOING TO SPEND SOME DOLLARS AT THE FACILITY IN 2025 THAT YOU WANT TO BE INFORMED, HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW IT AND THEN APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS ON THE BCA. I THINK WE LARGELY ANSWERED THAT UNLESS I MISSED A SPECIFIC QUESTION I APOLOGIZE THAT WAS MORE OF A COMMENT THAN WHAT I THOUGHT. THE QUESTION I UNDERSTAND WHAT IS IN THE BUDGET THERE.  I APPRECIATE THE OTHER THINGS AND THEN I WILL JUST FORMALLY ON THE RECORD MAKE THAT REQUEST THAT ANY CAPITAL EXPENDITURES FOR THE AQUATICS BEFORE THE COUNCIL REGARDLESS OF SIZE OR IF THEY MEET THAT THRESHOLD.  I'VE JUST GIVEN THE HOUR LONG CONVERSATIONS ABOUT AQUATICS THAT THE OTHER AS WELL MAKE SURE WE'RE ALIGNED ON SHORT OF A FORMAL MOTION COUNCIL ARE WE IN AGREEMENT ON THAT AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S AN ISSUE. I THINK TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION AND WHEN ANY POSSIBLE CAPITAL EXPENDITURE WOULD COME FORWARD SO NOTED BY STAFF I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO DO A FORMAL NO FORMAL MOTION ON THAT. SO VERY GOOD. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU LOOK FOR ACTION ON IT IN 3.1 OR I'M SORRY VICTOR I SAID I THINK THE QUESTIONS HAVE ALREADY WERE ANSWERED. VERY GOOD THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO ACTION AND THEN 3.1 YES SIR I WILL MOVE TO ADOPT THE 2025 RECREATION FACILITY ENTERPRISE FUND BUDGETS.  THE SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO BY MR. WAS COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN TO ACCEPT ITEM 3.1 ON A CONSENT BUSINESS NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRY SIX ONE WITH COUNCILMEMBER NELSON IN OPPOSITION.  ITEM 3.2 ON THE AGENDA COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO YES . SO THE BIGGEST QUESTION THAT I HAD RELATED TO THE FIRE PENSION FUND WAS RELATED TO HOW WE HOW WE I GUESS FOR LACK OF A BETTER WAY TO PUT IT PULLING OUT OF THAT FUND.  SO SO I ASSUME THAT IT'S A FUND THAT IS IT IS ON THE MARKET AND SO IT IS A FUND THAT YOU KNOW COMES AND GOES WITH THE THE THE MARKET IN GENERAL ARE I DON'T NEED THE SPECIFICS ABOUT HOW IT'S IT'S BALANCED BUT MY GUESS IS THAT WE'RE DOING SOME KIND OF A SELL OFF IN ORDER TO ACCUMULATE THOSE DOLLARS OR YOU KNOW OR DO WE HAVE SOME DOLLARS THAT GET SOLD ON A REGULAR INTERVAL AND THEN ARE PUT IN SOME KIND OF CASH ACCOUNT THAT WE CAN THEN ACCESS THIS WAY I WOULD JUST LOVE TO HAVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING ABOUT THAT.  MR. MAYOR, COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO, THE FIRE PENSION FUND HAS A COUPLE OF SOURCES. WE HAVE INVESTMENTS AND WE GET AN ANNUAL YIELD ON THAT THE YIELD THE AMOUNT OF THAT DETERMINES HOW MUCH THAT WE HAVE TO CONTRIBUTE EACH YEAR ABOVE AND BEYOND THE FIRE PENSION THAT COMES INTO THE CITY AS WELL. THAT'S A LONG TERM FUND THAT WE HAVE FORECASTED OUT THE LONG TERM MODEL ASSUMES CERTAIN RETURNS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS AND WE USE THAT FUND FOR A COUPLE OF PURPOSES SO.  WE ALSO BORROW MONEY FOR THAT FOR SOME THE ADVANCE PLANNING WORK ON THE FIRE STATION WELL PROJECTS THAT WE'RE REPLACING RIGHT NOW AND THEN WHEN WE SELL THE DEBT ON THOSE THOSE BOND PROCEEDS GO BACK THE FUND SO IT'S IN AND OUT AND THEN THE LEVEL UTILIZING THAT FUND TO MANAGE SOME THE TRANSITION OF THE FIREFIGHTERS WHO ARE BEING FUNDED BY A SAFER GRANT IS BASED ON THE LONG TERM MODEL AND THE COMFORT LEVEL WITH THE FUND BALANCE OVER TIME SO THOSE FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE BECAUSE THAT'S A HIGHER PURPOSE. WE'RE ABLE TO UTILIZE IT IN THAT MANNER.  SO SOMEONE SAID ANOTHER WAY WE'RE JUST WE'RE LEVERAGING PROCEEDS FROM THE YIELD THAT COMES ON AN ANNUAL BASIS ON THOSE LONG TERM INVESTMENTS AND WE DON'T NEED TO MAKE ANY ADJUSTMENTS TO THE INVESTMENTS THEMSELVES OR WE'RE OBLIGATED TO THOSE AND ADJUST THOSE ANYWAY SO WE CAN'T MAKE ANY ADJUSTMENTS TO THOSE INVESTMENTS.  CORRECT. AND COUNSEL MAY RECALL THAT A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO ACTUALLY I THINK THIS PRECEDED A NUMBER OF YOU ON THE COUNCILS WE SPENT WE SET UP A SPECIAL FIRE RESERVE FUND BECAUSE IN THE PAST AND THIS IS 14 YEARS AGO NOW THE MARKET PERFORMANCE WAS SO BAD THAT ACTUALLY HAD TO ISSUE TO MEET THE OBLIGATION THE RESERVE FUND WAS ESTABLISHED AND WE HAD SOME LEVY DOLLARS GOING IN THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COULD MAINTAIN THAT FUND DID NOT HAVE THOSE TYPES OF INCIDENTS OCCUR OR ANYTHING.  CARLSON ANYTHING THAT MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER.  D'ALESSANDRO I WILL JUST ADD AS WELL THAT THIS SPECIAL REVENUE FUND THAT WE CALL THE FIRE PENSION SPECIAL REVENUE FUND THE SPECIFIC PURPOSE FOR IT IS TO PAY OUR ANNUAL OBLIGATION AND SO WE FUND THAT WITH LEVY AND SOMETIMES DON'T NEED TO PAY AS MUCH AS WHAT WE LEVY. AND SO IT HAS WE HAVE DONE SINCE THE INVESTMENTS HAVE DONE WELL WHERE WE HAVEN'T HAD TO PUT SUCH A LARGE OBLIGATION ON INTO THE FIRE PENSION IT HAS GROWN BUT IT ALWAYS DEPENDS ON WHERE WE LAND AT THE END OF THE YEAR WITH THOSE INVESTMENTS BUT THE THE SOURCE IS TAX LEVY SOME IN THE BEGINNING WHEN THAT FUND WAS ESTABLISHED SOME STRATEGIC PRIORITY MONEY CAME OVER BUT THAT WHOLE THE WHOLE REASON FOR IT IS ACTUALLY CASH SO WE HAVE IN THE CITY SO IT IS A VERY HEALTHY BALANCE NOW IT IS A SOURCE THAT WE CAN LOOK TO FOR HELPING TRANSFER AND WHEN THE SAFER GRANT EXPIRES. THAT'S GREAT. THAT INCREASES MY COMFORT LEVEL TO KNOW THAT IT IS ESSENTIALLY TAX DOLLARS THAT WE SET FOR A SPECIFIC PURPOSE THAT HAVE YIELDED BENEFITS THAT PURPOSE AND WE CAN TAKE THAT AND ACTUALLY START TO PAY DOWN THE THE THE INEQUITY WILL HAVE AROUND THE SAME ONCE THE SAFER GRANTS AREN'T HERE RIGHT AND SO I MY EXPECTATION WOULD BE THAT THAT'S NOTED IN YOU KNOW AS WE LAST WEEK IF YOU REMEMBER WE HAD THAT LONG TERM PLAN FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.  I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN START TO SEE THAT THAT KIND OF THING HAPPENING SO THAT WE WHEN THOSE OBLIGATIONS ARE COMING DUE AFTER THE SAFER GRANTS ARE ARE ARE DONE THAT THAT BURDEN THAT'S GOING TO COME ON TO THE TAXPAYER FOR THOSE FOR THE STAFF THAT WE ARE WILL KNOW HOW MUCH WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO REDUCE THAT BURDEN BY VIRTUE OF DOING THIS TRANSACTION IF THAT MAKES SENSE. THANKS. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE HAVE ARE THERE OTHER COMMENTS ON ITEM 3.2 COUNCILMEMBER ELIS AND COUNCILMEMBER NELSON COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS I JUST HAD A QUICK QUESTION THAT WAS ALREADY ANSWERED BUT I, I WAS JUST CURIOUS OF WHETHERE WERE PAYING BACK ANY FUNDS THAT WERE BEING TAKING OUT OF A PENSION WHICH THE ANSWER WAS ALREADY GIVEN.  BUT THAT'S THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD IN REGARDS TO THAT. THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER NELSON. YEAH. THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO REITERATE AND I BROUGHT THIS UP BEFORE THAT I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE COMMUNICATIONS FUND. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE AN INCREASE OF REVENUES SINCE 23 OF 400,000 OR 300,000 AND INCREASE OF EXPENSES BY 300,000 FOR SERVICE ANYWAYS WE WERE LOSING WE WERE ADDING 75% OF THE PROPERTY TAX SUPPORT TO THIS BECAUSE OF DECLINING REVENUES IN OTHER.  AND MY ONLY COMMENT IS WE NEED HAVE THIS ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT YEAR TO ADDRESS I MEAN WE CAN'T CONTINUE TO GO THIS DIRECTION AND I'VE ALSO BEEN CLEAR ABOUT MY SORT OF LACK OF SUPPORT FOR FRANCHISE FEES AND JUST YOU KNOW, LETTING KNOW WHAT IT IS AND INCLUSION IN THE LEVY. BUT YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE INCREASING THE PROPERTY TAX SUPPORT FOR THIS SIGNIFICANT LATER THIS YEAR AND THAT SEEMS TO BE ONGOING FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.  EXPENSES CONTINUE TO GO UP WHICH MAKES SENSE AND THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE WORLD BUT.  WE NEED TO GET OUR ARMS AROUND THIS ONE IN THE NEXT YEAR IN OPINION SO THIS THIS ONE IS A BIG CONCERN FOR ME.  ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ON ITEM 3.2 COMMENTS? COUNCILMEMBER WOMAN YEAH, I WANT TO THANK MY COLLEAGUES FOR THEIR SUPPORT OF THE IDEA WHAT WE'RE DOING AROUND THE FIRE PENSION FUND GENERAL FIRE FUND IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO THERE.  I CERTAINLY AM NERVOUS ABOUT DOING THAT BUT I DO THINK IT MAKES MY STAFF AS ASSURED US THAT IT MAKES THE MOST AMOUNT OF SENSE TO KIND OF DO THAT TO MOVE FORWARD THAT WAY. IT DOES PROVIDE SOME RELIEF FOR TAXPAYERS AS WE KIND OF MOVE FORWARD.  AND THEN IN TERMSF THE COMMUNICATIONS FUND THAT MY COLLEAGUE CUSTOMER NELSON HAD MENTIONED, I HAD SHARED THOSE MY CONCERNS WHEN WE FIRST AT THE OUTSET WHEN WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE COMMUNICATION FUNDS. BUT I THINK WE'RE AT A POINT NOW WHERE I THINK REALLY THE COMMUNITY REALLY RELIES UPON THOSE THINGS. I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE SHOULDN'T LOOK INTO THOSE THINGS AND TRY TO FIND BEST WAY FORWARD BUT I THINK WE NEED TO YOU KNOW, AS AS WE SEE THE THAT INDUSTRY CHANGE AND SHIFT THAT WE TO BE CAREFUL THAT WE'RE NOT PROVIDING LESS SERVICE AS IT RELATES TO COMMUNICATIONS AND WHAT THAT ALL BRINGS TO TO THAT WHOLE CONVERSATION FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC.  COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS YEAH, I BUT MY I THE SAME CONCERNS SAID BECAUSE SO MEMBERS NELSON AND LOWMAN HAD. HOWEVER I DO UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR THE COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT GROW SINCE WE ARE DEMANDING AS NOT ONLY AS COUNCIL MEMBERS BUT ALSO AS RESIDENTS WHO ARE DEMANDING A LOT THE INFORMATION BEING GIVEN TO US AND TRANSPARENCY AS WELL. I THINK THOSE ONE OF THE BEST MEANS OF COMMUNICATION THAT THIS CITY NOW POSSESSES AND IN MY 19 MONTHS OF BEING HERE WHAT I HAVE IS SAID THROUGH THE COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT WE HAD LEARNED LOT OF ISSUES OTHERWISE WE WOULD HAVE HAD WOULD HAVE BEEN AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC. YOU KNOW, THAT SAID, I DO BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO WAGE HOW MUCH IS BEING INVESTED ON IT OR WE CAN FIND WAYS OF YOU KNOW, BETTER WAYS TO UTILIZE THE TOOLS BEING GIVEN TO THE DEPARTMENT. BUT WHAT I CAN SAY IS IF THERE'S ANY DEPARTMENT THAT I HAVE SEEN PERFORMED TREMENDOUSLY WELL IS THE COMMUNICATION DEPARTMENT OR IN THAT REGARD IN SPITE OF THE FACT THAT WE NEED TO WATCH THE EXPENSES, I TRULY SUPPORT THAT DEPARTMENT. I THINK WE DO. THEY'RE DOING AN OUTSTANDING JOB IN COMMUNICATING TO THE PUBLIC AND MAKING THE PUBLIC AWARE OF WHAT THE CITY'S ON DOING AND IS AND IS DOING CURRENTLY SO IN SPITE OF THE EXPENSES I THINK THEY'RE DOING AN OUTSTANDING JOB WITH REGARDS TO THE THE CITY HAS SHOWN FOR THE LAST YEAR OR SO THAT ARE BEING HERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALSO MEMBER COUNCILMEMBER CARTER.  THANK YOU. I'LL MAKE THIS QUICK SO I APPRECIATED THAT YOU HAD ASKED THIS QUESTION COUNCILMEMBER NELSON AND WHAT I ALSO APPRECIATED WAS THE STAFF RESPONSE THAT WAS SENT LATER THIS AFTERNOON AND WHAT MADE ME FEEL A LITTLE BIT BETTER IS THAT ALTHOUGH WE'VE SEEN A DECLINE IN FRANCHISEE REVENUES, A NEW TEN YEAR AGREEMENT WITH COMCAST WILL SIGNIFICANTLY INCASE PARK FEES AND THERE'S ALSO THIS BILL BEFORE THE LEGISLATURE AND 2025 THE EQUAL ACCESS TO BROADBAND ACT THAT WOULD GIVE US MORE POWER.  AND SO I AGREE THOUGH THAT I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE ONE THOSE THINGS KIND OF COME TO FRUITION MORE CONVERSATION AROUND WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR COMMUNICATIONS IN THE CITY AND HOW SUSTAINABLE IS THAT?  ALL RIGHT. YOU KNOW, FOR COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON ITEM 3.2 OR THE FRACTION ON IT, COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO YES. THANK MR. MAYOR. I WOULD AGREE I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT ENOUGH THING THAT WE SET SOME TIME FOR IT SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT NEXT YEAR WITH THAT WILL MOVE IN A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE 2025 SPECIAL REVENUE FUND BUDGETS FOR COMMUNICATIONS, PARKS AND RECREATION ON THE FIRE PENSION FUND. SO MOST OF MY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO BY COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS TO ACCEPT ITEM 3.2 ON A CONSENT BUSINESS NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO. LET'S SKIP 3.3 COUNCILMEMBER HAND JUMP TO ITEM 3.8. THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.  I I WANTED TO JUST MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD THE THE.  SO IT LOOK TO ME BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT WE GOT THE PACKET THAT 40% OF THE RESIDENTS DIDN'T WANT THIS TO BE DONE, SOME OF WHOM ARE PROPOSING SOMETHING DIFFERENT . BUT NO, THERE WAS NO CLEAR MAJORITY BUT I I'M CONCERNED THAT IF THAT IF IT FEELS LIKE 40% OF THE OF THE POPULATION NOT WANTING IT WAS LARGE AS AS LARGE OR LARGER THAN ANY OF THE OTHER PARTICULAR OPTIONS.  AND I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT WE ONLY FOCUS ON THEIR BUT BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RESIDENTS WHO DIDN'T RESPOND ARE LOOKING FOR BUT I'M I WANT TO BE SURE I HAVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF OF THE AND THE PUBLIC HAS A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF WHY WE'RE PROPOSING TO MOVE PROJECT FORWARD ANYWAY IF THAT MAKES SENSE.  MR. RUBY MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS COUNCILMAN ODELL, SANDRA MARONE IS HERE AND I THINK SHE CAN ADDRESS THE QUESTIONS. YEAH, THANKS. MS. GOOD EVENING. WELCOME. GOOD EVENING MR. MAYOR. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL SO YOU'RE CORRECT COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO SO WE DID GET RESPONSES BACK. WHAT WE WERE DOING IS SO IS A ROADWAY THAT CARRIES A HIGHER VOLUME OF TRAFFIC THAN WE TYPICALLY WOULD SEE ON A RESIDENTIAL ROADWAY. THIS IS A PRIME CANDIDATE FOR A SIDEWALK. WHEN WE SEE THOSE TYPES OF VOLUMES AND A SIDEWALK ON THIS ROADWAY WOULD FILL A SIDEWALK GAP THAT WE HAVE BETWEEN 84TH STREET AND NOW MILE CREEK PARKWAY. WE'VE SET A LOT OF OBJECTIVES IN OUR ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION TO ACTION PLAN AND THIS IS A PERFECT CANDIDATE FOR SIDEWALK BASED ON SOME OF THE GOALS THAT PLAN. WE ALSO HAVE OUR STOREFRONTS TO SCHOOL PLAN FOR POPLAR BRIDGE ELEMENTARY ONE OF THE ELEMENTS IDENTIFIED  IN PLAN WAS TO CONSTRUCT SIDEWALK ON STANLEY AVENUE. WITH THOSE GOALS WE DID GO TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT IS THE GENERAL FEELING ABOUT SIDEWALK ON THIS ROADWAY? IT WAS NOT PRESENTED AS A VOTE. IT WAS PRESENTED AS A.  WHAT IS YOUR OPINION ABOUT SIDEWALK ON THIS ROADWAY? AND WERE ONLY ASKING THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS AND OBVIOUSLY THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IMMEDIATELY AFFECTED BUT DON'T NECESSARILY ARE NOT THE ONES EXPERIENCE ALL THE BENEFIT OF SIDEWALK AS WELL. SO THESE THIS IS DEFINITELY ONE FACTOR TO CONSIDER IS THE RESULTS OF THE THE RESPONSE FROM THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON THAT ROADWAY.  AND AS YOU STATED, WE DIDN'T HEAR BACK FROM NINE OF THE 27. THAT CAN BE THAT IS REALLY UP TO YOUR.  SO OFTENTIMES IF PEOPLE ARE ADAMANTLY OPPOSED TO SOMETHING WE WILL HEAR ABOUT IT. AND SO OUR STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH CONSIDERING THE IDEA OF ADDING SIDEWALK ON THIS ROADWAY. WE'VE COME UP WITH AN OPTION THAT IF WE WERE TO CHOOSE TO BE AWARDED FOR IT SINCE IT IS OUTSIDE OF HOW WE TYPICALLY DO THIS TYPE OF A PROJECT IF WE WERE TO GET SOME OUTSIDE FUNDING IT WOULD BE A WAY TO PROVIDE SOME TRAFFIC CALMING BY NARROWING THE ROADWAY PROVIDE SOME PEDESTRIAN SAFETY BY PROVIDING OFF ROAD PEDESTRIAN FACILITIES AND MINIMIZING THE IMPACT TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS,  NARROWING THE ROAD SO THAT WE CAN MINIMIZE OUR IMPACTS TO THE TREES MUCH AS POSSIBLE.  HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION AND I'M CERTAINLY WILL ANSWER ANYTHING ELSE. YEAH, I JUST HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION THAT IF THAT'S OKAY MR. MAYOR. BASED ON WHAT I SEE. SO I THINK THE PROPOSAL THAT YOU HAVE HERE HAS IT HAS THE SIDEWALK ON THE ON THE WEST SIDE.  IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO SO BASICALLY THE CONCEPT IS TO NARROW THE ROAD AND ADD SIDEWALK ALONG THE ROAD. WE ARE LOOKING AT A VERY PRELIMINARY LAYOUT AS FAR AS A FUNDING APPLICATION GOES. THOSE TYPES OF DETAILS COULD BE DEFINITELY OUT WHEN WE ORDER THE PROJECT. THE CONCEPT AND THE COST ESTIMATE IS NARROW THE ROAD AND BUILD OFF ROAD CYCLING. OKAY. AND ANY ANY PLAN IN THAT AREA KNOWING THAT THE THE SIDEWALK THAT'S ON NINE MILE CREEK PARKWAY AS I THINK ON THE EAST SIDE SO THERE'LL BE A CROSSING THERE OR SOMETHING. WILL THAT BE PART OF THE CONSIDERATION?  ABSOLUTELY. VERY GOOD. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU FOR THAT.  APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF AIR THIS IN PUBLIC JUST I'VE HAD A LOT OF CALLS FROM THAT NEIGHBORHOOD ABOUT THIS ISSUE.  I WANTED TO JUST MAKE SURE WE HAD A CHANCE TO HAVE ANOTHER CONVERSATION ON IT. I HAVE NOTHING FURTHER THAN IF NOBODY ELSE HAS ANYTHING THEY'D LIKE TO ASK. I'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE IT. PLEASE DO. ALL RIGHT, GREAT. I MOVE A RESOLUTION OF SUPPORT OF A STANLEY AVENUE SIDEWALK PROJECT BETWEEN 84TH STREET WEST 84TH STREET NINE MILE CREEK PARKWAY, MINNESOTA 2024 SAFE FRANCISCO PHYSICAL INFRASTRUCTURE SOLICITATION.  SO MOST OF MY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO SPOKEN ABOUT COUNCILMEMBER TO ACCEPT ITEM 3.8 ON OUR CONSENT BUSINESS TONIGHT NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS.  ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO. ITEM.15. YES THIS IS JUST A FUN ONE THAT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE HAD HAD ATTENTION PAID TO IT. SO I KNOW THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF FOLKS OUT THERE WHO ARE VERY, VERY INTERESTED IN THE WORK THAT WE DO AND WE GOT A LOT OF FEEDBACK ABOUT NINE MILE CREEK FOR EXAMPLE AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT BUT THAT THE GOOD FOLKS OUR NATURAL RESOURCES OFFICE ARE CONTINUING TO MAKE STRIDES IN OTHER AREAS OF THE SO I WANTED TO CALL ATTENTION TO THE PUBLIC THAT WE ARE LOOKING TO GET EXPERT LED CONSERVATION PROJECT DONE IN TAR HEEL PARK. TAR HEEL PARK IS A BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF LAND. IT HAS NOT BEEN MAINTAINED AND THIS WILL GO A LONG WAY TOWARDS MAKING SOME REAL IMPROVEMENTS IN THAT AREA.  SO I JUST WANTED TO PULL IT OFF NOT FOR ANY REASON OTHER THAN TO SAY YAY AND THANKS TO THE TEAM IN THE NATURAL RESOURCES OFFICE FOR CONTINUING TO TRY TO FIND MONEY FOR THESE KINDS OF THINGS AND CONTINUE TO WORK ON OUR HIGH PRIORITY AREAS. THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER.  ANY OTHER COMMENTS COUNCIL. IF NOT COUNCILMEMBER MOVE ITEM 3.50 I'D BE DELIGHTED TO MOVE A RESOLUTION A GRANT AGREEMENT WITH THE AMEND DNR EXPEDITED PROJECTS TO GRANT TANNEHILL OAK RESTORATION SAYING MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER TO ACCEPT 3.15 ON TONIGHT'S CONSENT AGENDA NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSE THE MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO AND LET'S DOUBLE BACK TO ITEM 3.3. THE RESOLUTION TO ACCEPT DONATIONS CONCERNING CONTROL.  THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. ALWAYS A FUN TIME TO TALK TO THE OF THE FOLKS IN THE PUBLIC ABOUT HOW GREAT PEOPLE ARE HERE ABOUT DONATING TO A VARIETY OF CAUSES IN THE CITY . SO THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY. WE HAVE SOME DONATIONS THIS ONE IN PARTICULAR OF A WONDERFUL DONATION FROM MISS ELLISON FOR ONE GOLF COURSE TO REPLACE 1000 MAPLE TREES THERE WHICH IS PRETTY SIGNIFICANT IN MEMORY OF . FRANCES CUELLAR IF I'M PRONOUNCING THAT CORRECTLY, WE ALSO TO GET SUPPORT FOR OUR HEALTH DEPARTMENT FOR NEWBORN BABY BUNDLES. WE ALSO SUPPORT FOR OUR BPD. THEY THERE WAS A DONATIONS MADE TO SIR TO SUPPORT 20 YOUTH AND STAFF GIVING THEM BREAKFAST FOR THE HOLIDAY HELPERS IN BLUE EVENT AND THEN OTHER DONATIONS TO BPD. SO THANKS TO CHICK-FIL-A VALLEJO PIZZA AND CLYDE HEART . AND FINALLY A $200 CHECK TO SMALL EQUIPMENT FUND FROM CLYDE WILSON HEART AS.  AND WITH THAT JUST A THANK YOU TO THE GENEROUS CITIZENS ESPECIALLY THIS TIME OF YEAR GENEROUS RESIDENTS OF BLOOMINGTON FOR ALL OF THEIR SUPPORT IN SO MANY WAYS INCLUDING DONATING TO THE MANY DEPARTMENTS THAT WE HAVE WITH THAT HAPPY TO TO MOVE A RESOLUTION TO ACCEPT THESE DONATIONS. MR..  WE HAVE A MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND SECOND MOTION WITH COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO A SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER TO ACCEPT THE RESOLUTIONS TO ACCEPT DONATIONS TONIGHT ITEM 3.3 ON THE CONSENT BUSINESS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I PROPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO AND COUNCIL I NEGLECTED. WAS ACTUALLY A 3.23 IN THE REPUBLISHED AGENDA PACKET THAT WAS THE AMENDMENT TO THE CITY MANAGER'S EMPLOYMENT AGREEMENT. THAT WAS THAT WAS WALKED ON IT EARLIER TODAY. FORGOT THAT ONE. IF THERE'S ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT WE CAN HAVE THAT OTHERWISE I WOULD MOVE APPROVAL OF ITEM 2.3.23 SECOND MOTION MY CONSENT MOTION MAIN MOTION SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN TO ACCEPT ITEM 3.23 AND QUESTIONS ON THE COUNCIL COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS DID YOU SEE THAT FOR THE NEXT TEN YEARS? MR. MAYOR I CAN SUGGEST WE JUST DO A QUICK MR. VERBAL SUMMARY OF IT'S FOR MR. RIVAS. MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS THE AMENDMENT TO THE EMPLOYMENT AGREEMENT WAS RELATED TO SECTION 16 POINT C WHICH HAS DO WITH EMPLOYEE INITIATED TERMINATION AND PRIMARILY DISTRIBUTION OF ACCRUED BENEFITS AND JUST ALLOWS THOSE THAT DISTRIBUTION TO BE IN THE MANNER OF THE CITY MANAGER'S CHOOSING.  OKAY. WITH THAT COUNCILMEMBER NELSON ,IT JUST FOR THE PUBLIC AND COUNCILMAN RIVAS HAS INFORMATION THIS HAS ZERO BUDGET IMPACT CORRECT IT'S IT'S PURELY A TIMING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IT IS THERE'S THERE'S NO FINANCIAL IMPACT ALSO.  THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION A SECOND TO ACCEPT 3.23 THE CITY MANAGER EMPLOYMENT AGREEMENT.  NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSE THE MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO. SORRY MR. MAYOR I FORGOT IT AS WELL COUNCILMEMBER BUT THANK YOU FOR TAKING IT OUT ON COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO. HEAVY LIFT THIS EVENING WILL MOVE AN ITEM FOR HEARINGS, RESOLUTIONS AND ORDINANCES AND I'M GOING TO START WITH ITEM 4.1. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING A CITY CODE AMENDMENT PARK DEDICATION AND PLANNING STANDARDS ORDINANCE. NICK JOHNSON OUR PLANNING STAFF IS HERE. GOOD EVENING, MR. JOHNSON. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR MEMBERS.  GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN. HAPPY HOLIDAYS.  THE PROJECT BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING AN ORDINANCE IS YET ANOTHER PLANNING COMMISSION WORK PLAN PROJECT AND THIS ONE WAS BROUGHT TO US BY OUR COLLEAGUES IN THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT SO THANKS TO THEM FOR BRINGING THIS TO OUR ATTENTION. RECENTLY WAS A COURT CASE THAT WENT TO THE MINNESOTA STATE SUPREME COURT POOS VERSUS OF BURNSVILLE WHEREIN A PRIVATE PARTY CHALLENGED THE CITY OF BURNSVILLE PARK DEDICATION REQUIREMENTS RELATED TO THEIR SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE AND.  SO THE CITY OF BURNSVILLE PARK DEDICATION SYSTEM SURVIVED THAT CHALLENGE AND WAS AFFIRMED BY THE STATE SUPREME . SO THAT'S GOOD. BUT IN LIGHT OF THAT OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT THOUGHT IT'D BE PRUDENT TO REVIEW BLOOMINGTON'S PARK DEDICATION STANDARDS TO ENSURE OUR SYSTEM IS IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE FINDINGS OF THE COURTS. SO THAT'S WHAT WE DID IN THIS PROCESS AND IN THIS PROJECT A NOTE HERE JUST ON THE NATURE OF THIS PROJECT IS THAT INVOLVES MOSTLY MANDATORY WHAT WE VIEW AS MANDATORY AMENDMENTS TO THE CITY LESS POLICYMAKING OR DISCRETIONARY ACTION ITEMS.  BUT IN ADDITION TO GETTING THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS, WE DID WANT TO LOOK AT SOME AREAS OF OUR SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE THAT I COULD USE SOME REFURBISHING. SO ON THE BASIS OF THAT MANDATORY VERSUS DISCRETIONARY NATURE, THIS IS THE PROCESS THAT WE WENT THROUGH. SO OUR PROJECT STARTED IN JULY OF THIS YEAR DID INVOLVE A WIDE INTERNAL STAFF TEAM WITH PARKS AND REC FINANCE LEGAL PLANNING, ENGINEERING, THE CITY SURVEYOR AND THE LIKE EVERYONE WHO'S KIND OF GOT A HAND IN THE SUBDIVISION AND PLANNING PROCESS. THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID PROVIDE A STUDY SESSION FOR THEM JUST TO GET IN THE WEEDS BUT THEN WE DID SCHEDULE A PUBLIC HEARING AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT TOOK PLACE ON NOVEMBER THE 21ST. AFTER LIMITED DISCUSSION THEY DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL.  DO HAVE THIS BEFORE YOU PUBLIC HEARING THIS EVENING JUST IN TERMS OF WHAT CONSTITUTES THE BLOOMINGTON PARK DEDICATION METHODOLOGY OR PROCESS. SO WE'RE A LITTLE DIFFERENT IN THAT MOST CITIES JUST OFFER A SINGLE PATHWAY AND MOST OF USE A PERCENTAGE OF UNDEVELOPED LAND TO CONSTITUTE CALCULATE THEIR PARK DEDICATION REQUIREMENT. BLOOMINGTON WE DO THINGS, WE OFFER AN ALTERNATIVE PATH AND WE GIVE THE LESSER OF THOSE TWO OPTIONS. SO THAT'S POSITIVE IN THAT WE TALK ABOUT PROPORTIONAL VALUE CALCULATION AND THAT'S BASED ON A 9010 SPLIT BETWEEN PARK AND RECREATION FACILITIES BY RESIDENTIAL VERSUS COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL VISITORS TO BLOOMINGTON.  AND WE KIND OF GET INTO THE WEEDS OF WHAT EACH LAND USE TYPE BRINGS TO THE CITY'S PARK SYSTEM. VIA THE LATEST DATA AVAILABLE. SO IT'S A IT'S A GOOD METHODOLOGY. IT'S STRONG.  WE UPDATE IT ROUTINELY. OUR ANALYSIS OF OUR RESULTED IN THAT WE THOUGHT IT WAS VERY DURABLE AND.  SO ACTUALLY THE CHANGES THAT WE'RE BRINGING BEFORE YOU IN THIS ORDINANCE REALLY ARE JUST TALKING ABOUT WHAT MAKES UP BLOOMINGTON PARK SYSTEM AND DEMONSTRATING THE NEED AS COMMUNICATED THE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE PARK SYSTEM AS A MASTER PLAN.  SO WITH THAT CAN PROVIDE JUST A SUMMARY OF WHAT THIS ORDINANCE ENTAILS. AGAIN CHANGES TO THE PARK FINDINGS AND PURPOSE THAT'S JUST RELATED TO THE COURT CASE AND DEMONSTRATING THE NEED FOR PARK AND RECREATION FACILITIES IN BLOOMINGTON.  ONE ISSUE THAT WE DID WANT TO RECTIFY AND THIS IS MORE OF A DISCRETIONARY ITEM VERSUS MANDATORY IS THAT MULTI-PHASE DEVELOPMENTS OFFERING A PATHWAY TO PROVIDE FOR PAYMENT OF SUBSEQUENT PHASES YOU MAY HAVE SEEN ON PLANNED DEVELOPMENTS THAT INVOLVE MULTIPLE PHASES WE'VE PREVIOUSLY PROCESSED AS PLANNING VARIANCES. THE PLANNING VARIANCE PROCESS DOESN'T ALIGN WELL WITH THIS REQUEST ON THE BASIS OF WHAT PLANNING VARIANCE FINDINGS BE. SO TRYING TO CREATE A PATHWAY TO DO THAT TO BE CONDITION AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND VIA AGREEMENT WE ARE SUGGESTING TO ADD A NEW ADMINISTRATIVE LOT LINE ADJUSTMENT AND LOT CONSOLIDATION PROCESS. THIS HAS TO DO BETTER ALIGNMENT WITH STATE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS AROUND PLANNING AND THEN ONE THING THAT'S ALSO IN THAT DISCRETIONARY BUCKET IS ADDING SOME ADDITIONAL EXCEPTIONS TO PLANNING. IF YOU RECALL I THINK KIND OF MISCELLANEOUS ISSUES ORDINANCE ONE OR TWO YEARS AGO WE BROUGHT TO YOU AN EXCEPTION TO PLANNING PARK FACILITIES ABOVE A CERTAIN SIZE. WE'D LIKE EXTEND THAT SAME EXCEPTION TO PUBLIC SCHOOLS. THOSE THOSE SITES TEND TO BE VERY LARGEND COSTLY TO PLAN AND MOST THEM WERE BUILT BEFORE OUR CURRENT STANDARD. SO A LOT OF THEM ARE UNPLANNED ODD LOTS AND WOULD OTHERWISE KIND OF INHIBIT OR RESTRICT SCHOOL PUBLIC SCHOOL PROJECTS ON THOSE SITES. SO WITH THAT I'M HAPPY TO STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. WE'VE TRIED TO KEEP THIS ONE PRETTY NARW AND DISCREET. THANK YOU, MR. JOHNSON.  WE LIKE NARROW AND DISCREET. THAT'S GOOD. ALSO ANY MR. JOHNSON COUNCILMEMBER NELSON. THANK MAYOR. YOU DESCRIBED THE SCENARIOS IN WHICH PLANNING IS REQUIRED AND DO OUR REQUIREMENTS DIFFER FROM ANY OTHER COMMUNITIES AROUND US WHEN WHEN BUILDER DEVELOPER NEEDS TO PLANT AND OR REPLANT.  YEAH. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON SO THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. WE ACTUALLY THAT WAS ONE OF THE CLARIFICATIONS WE DID MAKE IS THAT WHEN YOU HAVE A LOT THAT MAY HAVE BEEN PLANTED AND THEN MAY HAVE GONE THROUGH SOME OTHER FORM LINE ADJUSTMENT OR THOSE THINGS, OUR EXISTING CODE ACTUALLY WOULD NO LONGER DEEM THE LOT TO BE PLANTED BECAUSE IT'S A LOT AND WHOLE AND BLOCK NOT TO GET TOO FAR IN THE WEEDS BUT WHOLE AND BLOCK DESCRIBED PARCEL WHICH IT NO LONGER WOULD BE FOLLOWING A LOT LINE ADJUSTMENT.  SO THAT'S ONE WAY IN WHICH WE'RE OUT OF STEP WITH STATE LAW CURRENTLY SO WE WANT TO GET BACK IN THERE. BUT IN TERMS OF WHEN YOU WHEN YOU NEED TO BE A PLAN LIGHT YOU CERTAINLY WANT TO ENCOURAGE LIGHTS TO BE PLANTED. SO TYPICALLY NOW IT'S WHENEVER YOU'RE BUILDING A NEW STRUCTURE ON A LOT IN ORDER TO GET A BUILDING PERMIT YOU HAVE TO BE A PLANTED LOT. IT DOES ALLOW EXCEPTIONS TO A CERTAIN SIZE OF ADDITIONS TO THAT STRUCTURE.  YOU CERTAINLY WANT TO CREATE PATHWAYS TO REFINEMENT. WE DO AN EXTENSIVE SEARCH OF OTHER CITIES BUT MY GUESS IS THAT BECAUSE IT'S BASED ON STATUTORY LANGUAGE AND STRONGLY ALIGNS WITH THAT IS THAT PROBABLY MOSTLY PRETTY SIMILAR AMONG OTHER.  HOWEVER THAT BEING SAID MY GUESS IS THAT THERE'S A WIDE VARIETY OF KIND OF APPROACH OR METHODOLOGY IN TERMS OF WHEN CITIES WOULD ENFORCE THAT. THAT'S MY GUESS.  THANK YOU FOR THAT INFORMATION. THE REASON I BRING THAT UP IS WE DID A PROJECT WITH MAC V AND OF THE BARRIERS THAT THEY RAN INTO IS THAT THEY HAD TO PLANT AN EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY LOT AND THAT WAS AN UNEXPECTED ITEM FOR THEM AND THEY INDICATED I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S TRUE OR NOT THAT THAT WAS AN UNUSUAL STEP AND I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THAT. WHAT I'M WONDERING WOULD THAT HAVE AND DID THAT IMPLEMENT A PARK DEDICATION FEE BASED ON THAT?  IN THAT SCENARIO, IF THERE'S ALREADY AN EXISTING LOT AN EXISTING HOUSE OR COMMERCIAL OR WHATEVER, HOW HOW DOES THAT WORK? YEAH, THANKS FOR THAT QUESTION, MARY NELSON.  SO OUR PARK DEDICATION REQUIREMENTS DO ALLOW THE EXTENDING OF A CREDIT SO WHEN YOU'RE DEMOLISHING ONE STRUCTURE AND REPLACING A NEW IF IT'S FUNCTIONALLY EQUIVALENT ONE DWELLING TO ONE DWELLING THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN ELIGIBLE FOR A CREDIT AND NOT PAID ADDITIONAL PARK DEDICATION FEES NOT TO ZERO IN ON THAT PARTICULAR SITUATION BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF LOTS THAT HAVE BEEN PLANTED OR REMAIN UNPLANTED THAT WERE DEVELOPED OR CONSTRUCTED UPON PRIOR TO THE CITY HAVING THESE CURRENT STANDARDS. SO IT'S NOT I'D SAY IT'S UNCOMMON TO UNPLANTED LIGHT BUT IT'S NOT. IT HAPPENS TIME TO TIME. PUT IT THAT WAY. LAST QUICK COMMENT I WAS I WHEN I READ THE PROOFS SORRY FOR THE MISPRONUNCIATION VERSITY OF BURNSVILLE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON GOT LIKE THREE MENTIONS IN THERE FROM THE 6070S AND EIGHTIES I THINK OR. WELL, I'M A BLOOMINGTON COUNCIL MEMBER DALLESSANDRO THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.  THE THE THIS IS A RUDIMENTARY QUESTION THAT PROBABLY PRECEDES ANY OTHER QUESTION HAVE AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. THE THE PARK DEDICATION FEES WHERE DO THEY ARE THEY ASSIGNED WHEN WE RECEIVE THEM IN OF. ARE THEY JUST PUT IN THE PARKS REC DEPARTMENTAL FUND OR ARE THEY ALLOCATED IN SOME SPECIFIC WAY?  YEAH. MAYOR COUNTS FOR A DOZEN OR SO THEY'RE COLLECTED PRIOR TO THE PLAT BEING RELEASED FOR RECORDING AND THEY ARE CALCULATED ON A PER UNIT IN EFFECT BASIS AND IT'S DONE AT VERY ON IN THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS AFTER THE FUNDS ARE COLLECTED.  IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THEY ARE NOT THE BEST WORLD'S BEST MONEY GUY BUT THEY ARE CULLED, THEY ARE COLLECTED AND UTILIZED FOR CAPITAL EXPENDITURES, ONGOING STAFFING AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS THAT IT TENDS TO FLUCTUATE A LOT AN ANNUAL BASIS. OKAY. AND SO MR. PEABODY, DOES THAT MEAN THAT THERE'S A THAT'S JUST THAT THE OVERALL CAPITAL BUDGET FOR THE CAPITAL FUND OR THE PARKS AND REC SPECIFIC CAPITAL FUND.  MR. BRUGUIERE MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO I'M PRETTY CERTAIN THAT THE DEDICATION FEES HAVE TO BE USED FOR PROJECTS THAT ARE THAT MEET THE ELIGIBILITY AND CRITERIA WITHIN THE PARKS FUNDS.  COMING UP AS CARLSON MAYOR COUNCILMEMBERS DALLESSANDRO THE PARK DEDICATION FEES GO TO THE PARK DEVELOPMENT FUND. THANK YOU. THEY ARE NOT IN THE GENERAL FUND. RIGHT. OKAY, THAT'S HELPFUL. I'M JUST GOING TO PUT A NOTE IN EVERYBODY'S MIND THAT'S ANOTHER AREA WHERE WE COULD GET A BREAKDOWN OF THAT FUND GETS BUILT IF WE HAVE DEDICATED FUNDS TO IT IT WOULD BE GREAT TO SEE THAT AS A LINE ITEM IN A SUBLET OR SOMETHING. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT DEPARTMENTAL FUNDS AND BUDGETING. THANKS. OKAY.  THAT'S ALL MY QUESTION. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. THANKS FOR TAKING ONE FOR THE TEAM THERE. THE FISH KNOW PROP TWO CARRIES A DEFENSE. SHE I THINK SHE PREPPED ME ON THAT QUESTION.  I JUST COMPLETELY BLANKED ON IT. SO CONCERNING ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, MR. JOHNSON.  IF NOT, DON'T GO FAR. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING IT. I'M  IN 4.1. IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING CITY CODE AMENDMENT PARK AND PLANNING STANDARDS ORDINANCE. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TONIGHT ON AN 4.1?  MR. ALTMAN DO WE HAVE ANYONE ON THE PHONE WISHING TO SPEAK? MR. MAYOR THERE'S NO ONE ON MY LAST CALL FOR ANYBODY IN THE CHAMBERS NO.  ONE COMING FORWARD, NO ONE ON THE PHONE. COUNSEL I WOULD LOOK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING IN ITEM 4.1 SOLVED MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 4.1 NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY SAYING I OPPOSE THE MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING IN ITEM 4.1 COUNCIL ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ANY CONCERNS ON THIS ONE? COUNCILMEMBER NELSON NO, THANK YOU MAYOR FOR A QUICK COMMENT . I'D SUPPORT THIS AT THIS TIME, MA'AM. I THINK IT'S SOMETHING I CONTINUE TO MONITOR AND I REASON I BRING THAT UP IS YOU KNOW FEES IMPACT, THE COST OF HOUSING AND OTHER THINGS AND SO TAKING A LOOK AT THOSE BUT I BELIEVE THAT WHAT WE HAVE DONE OR WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS PUT MONEY INTO PARKS BASED ON THE IMPACT THAT THAT DEVELOPMENT HAVE ON THE NEED FOR PARKS. SO IT MEETS THE NEXUS WHEN WE GET INTO ALL THE WEEDS BUT THERE'S A CONNECTION BETWEEN THAT DEVELOPMENT AND WHAT THE COSTS ARE GOING TO AND THAT'S WHY IT'S IN A SEGREGATED FUND AND THEN IT'S REASONABLY PROPORTIONATE AND.  I THINK IT'S YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE AMAZING THINGS ABOUT THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON IS WE HAVE A GREAT PARK SYSTEM AND IT MAKES A GREAT CITY.  AND SO I THINK IT'S VERY EASY TO SAY THAT IT'S REASONABLE THAT WE AS WE DEVELOP WE INVEST IN THOSE THINGS SO OBVIOUSLY I'M ALWAYS CONCERNED ABOUT THE IMPACT ON THE COST OF HOUSING AT THIS POINT IT SEEMS VERY REASONABLE AND APPRECIATE WHAT STAFF HAS DONE ON THIS.  ANYTHING ELSE COUNCIL HEARING NOTHING.  CAN'T SAY I WOULD LOOK FOR ACTION ON THAT AND 4.1 TO SEE THEM COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN THERE A MOVE TO ADOPT AN ORDINANCE COMPLETING A MINOR AMENDMENT TO THE CITY'S PARK DEDICATION PROVISIONS MODIFYING THE DEFINITION OF PLAT LOT ESTABLISHING AN ADMINISTRATIVE LOT LINE AND THEN THAT IN LOT CONSOLIDATION APPLICATION PROCESS AND EXPANDING EXCEPTIONS TO THEREBY AMENDING CHAPTERS 1522 AND APPENDIX A TO THE CITY CODE MOTION COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO TO ADOPT THE ORDINANCE TO COMPLETE MINOR AMENDMENTS TO THE CITY'S PARK DEDICATION AS STATED NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN THE SUMMARY PUBLICATION REMOVED ADOPT A RESOLUTION DIRECTING SUMMARY PUBLICATION OF ORDINANCE COMPLETING A MINOR AMENDMENT TO THE CITY'S PARK DEDICATION PROVISION MODIFYING THE DEFINITION OF FLOOD PLUS ESTABLISHING AN ADMINISTRATIVE LOT ADJUSTMENTS AND LOT CONSIDERATION APPLICATION PROCESS EXPANDING EXCEPTIONS TO PLANNING THEREBY AMENDING CHAPTER 15 CHAPTER 22 AND APPENDIX EIGHT THE CITY CODE SO AGAIN MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER FOR SUMMARY PUBLICATION ON ITEM 4.2 OR EXCUSE ME ON IN 4.1 SUMMARY PUBLICATION NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I PROPOSED CARRIES SEVEN ZERO THANK YOU VERY MUCH THANK YOU MR. JOHNSON.  I APPRECIATE IT. WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM 4.2 WHICH I THINK IS THE MAIN EVENT OF THE EVENING FOR MOST OF THE FOLKS HERE. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.  YOU REFILL IT FOR ME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.  THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING OUR TRUTH AND TAXATION 2025 PROPERTY TAX LEVY AND GENERAL FUND BUDGET AND JUST FOR EVERYBODY IN ATTENDANCE AND WATCHING THE SCENE, THIS IS HOW THE GAME PLAN IS GOING TO GO MS. CARLSON'S GOT A PRESENTATION COUNCIL WILL ASK ANY FOLLOW UP ALTHOUGH WE'VE WE'VE RUN THIS THROUGH THE RINGER ABOUT EIGHT TIMES NOW I DON'T KNOW THAT TO BE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS BUT WE WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR QUESTIONS.  WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND FOLKS WHO WISH TO SPEAK TO THE PUBLIC HEARING IF YOU COULD JUST KIND OF LINE UP AND MAKE SURE WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO SIGN IN AND SO ON. WE HAVE OUR OUR SHOT CLOCK WE CALL IT YOU'LL HAVE 5 MINUTES TO SPEAK AND WHEN THE CLOCK HITS ZERO I WILL CUT YOU OFF AND NOT BECAUSE I MEAN BUT BECAUSE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY HAS THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME TO TO TALK TONIGHT AND SO WILL HAVE 5 MINUTES AND IF YOU ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL JOT DOWN ALL THE QUESTIONS AND WE'LL ANSWER THE QUESTIONS AND MS..  AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING IS OVER THAT WAY WE DON'T WE'RE NOT SHOOTING FROM THE HIP. WE HAVE A CHANCE FOR STAFF TO DO ANY RESEARCH THAT MIGHT BE NECESSARY OR COME UP WITH THE ANSWERS THAT ARE APPROPRIATE TO TO THE QUESTIONS THAT ARE ASKED SO.  THAT IS HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO IT. THAT'LL BE THE GAME PLAN. AND AS I SAID, WE'RE GOING TO START WITH A BUDGET PRESENTATION BY COREY CARLSON. GOOD EVENING.  WELCOME AGAIN. GOOD EVENING AGAIN AARON. COUNSEL AS THE MAYOR SAID TONIGHT I WILL PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION FOR THE IN TAXATION PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE 2025 PROPERTY TAX LEVY AND BUDGET AND THEN ALSO JOINING ME THIS EVENING IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS IS CITY ASSESSOR TIM MULDER WHO'S STANDING UP RIGHT THERE.  HE IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS RELATED ASSESSED PROPERTY VALUES, HOMESTEADED PROPERTIES THE STATE'S PROPERTY TAX REFUND PROGRAM AND THE SENIOR DEFERRAL PROPERTY TAX PROGRAM AND MR. BOULDER BOULDER WILL BE AVAILABLE IN THE LOBBY OUTSIDE THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS TO ASSIST WITH SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY VALUATIONS . BEFORE I BEGIN THE PRESENTATION I JUST WANT ACKNOWLEDGE THE CONCERNS SHARED BY SOME RESIDENTS REGARDING TAX INCREASES AND THE RISING COSTS THAT HAVE AFFECTED CITY BUDGETS HAVE ALSO IMPACTED RESIDENTS AND ESPECIALLY ON FIXED INCOMES AND BALANCING THE NEED TO FUND COMMUNITY SERVICES WITH THE FINANCIAL REALITIES FACED BY RESIDENTS IS A COMPLEX AND CHALLENGING TASK.  IN RESPONSE TO THESE CONCERNS THE CITY COUNCIL DIRECTED STAFF TO REDUCE THE PRELIMINARY BUDGET ADOPTED IN SEPTEMBER.  THE BUDGET BEING PRESENTED TONIGHT REFLECTS A REDUCTION OF NEARLY $2 MILLION COMPARED TO THE PROPOSED BUDGET THAT WAS THE PRELIMINARY PROPERTY TAX STATEMENTS WERE BASED THAT WERE MAILED IN NOVEMBER AND 2025 PROPOSED BUDGET ALIGNS WITH THE CITY'S KEY STRATEGIC PRIORITIES OF A CONNECTED AND WELCOMING A HEALTHY COMMUNITY AND A COMMUNITY OF EQUITABLE GROWTH.  WE BEGAN WORKING ON THIS BUDGET BACK IN MAY AND FOLLOWED THIS BUDGET CALENDAR OVER THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS THIS INVOLVED NUMEROUS DISCUSSIONS WITH STAFF AND CITY COUNCIL ANNOUNCES REFINEMENTS TO ALIGN WITH THE CITY'S PRIORITIES AND THE FINANCIAL OUTLOOK. NOW WE'VE REACHED FINAL STAGE OF THIS BUDGET PROCESS AND WE'RE AT THE TRUTH IN TAXATION PUBLIC HEARINGS TAKING PLACE THIS EVENING. SO THIS MARKS GETTING TOWARDS THE CONCLUSION OF THIS ANNUAL BUDGET PROCESS.  I'D LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT JUST TO REVIEW OUR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AROUND THE BUDGET FROM JUNE TO OCTOBER WE ENGAGED WITH THE COMMUNITY TO DISCUSS BUDGET CITY SPENDING AT CITY EVENTS WE FOUND THAT WE'VE ARE ABLE TO TALK TO A LOT MORE PEOPLE IF WE GO OUT THE COMMUNITY WHERE THEY ARE AS OPPOSED TO HOLDING EVENTS HERE OR DOING THINGS VIRTUALLY ONLINE. SO THIS WE WERE AT THE JUNETEENTH CELEBRATION A JULY WEDNESDAY FARMERS MARKET THE LEARNING LINK AT VALLEY VIEW PLAY FIELDS THAT WAS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THE ON THE ONE MUSIC FESTIVAL IN THE SOUTH LOOP WE WERE AT A SATURDAY MARKET ALL DAY. WE WERE AT THE PRIDE FESTIVAL AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT OPEN HOUSE AND INCLUDED IN EVENING'S AGENDA MATERIALS THAT WERE PUBLISHED AS THE FEEDBACK FROM BOTH THE COMMUNITY IN-PERSON EVENTS AND ALSO SOME RESPONSES ON OUR LET'S TALK BLOOMINGTON ONLINE SURVEY SURVEY AS A REVIEW ARE OUR BUDGET TABLES AT COMMUNITY EVENTS AND ACTIVITY WHERE PARTICIPANTS USE CHIPS THAT REPRESENT PROPERTY TAXES AND ALLOCATING THEM ACROSS SIX CATEGORIES BASED ON THEIR PRIORITIES THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PUT THEM ALL ONE OR SPLIT THEM HOWEVER THEY THINK THAT THE CITY SHOULD BE SPENDING MONEY FROM THE DATA COLLECTED FROM THOSE SEVEN EVENTS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR PARKS, ARTS, RECREATION,  NATURAL RESOURCES RECEIVED THE MOST CHIPS WITH 23% OF THE TOTAL AND PUBLIC SAFETY HAD THE SECOND MOST AT 19%, THEY SAID WE ALSO HAD A SIMILAR ACTIVITY ONLINE ON THE LET'S TALK BLOOMINGTON BUDGET PAGE AND ON THE SURVEY THE SAME CATEGORIES BE RANKED IN PRIORITIES ON A SCALE 1 TO 6 WITH ONE BEING THE HIGHEST PRIORITY AND ON THE ONLINE SURVEY FACILITIES AND INFRASTRUCTURE WAS RANKED AS THE HIGHEST PRIORITY FOLLOWED BY PUBLIC SAFETY.  WE ALSO MAINTAIN A COMPREHENSIVE BUDGET WEBSITE WHERE WE POST BUDGET ALL THE BUDGET PRESENTATIONS DETAILED ,BUDGET INFORMATION, THE VIDEO EXPLAINING PROPERTY TAX STATEMENTS AND VALUATIONS AND ALL THE RECORDED COUNCIL BUDGET DISCUSSIONS.  THE ONE WE'RE HAVING RIGHT NOW WILL BE POSTED TOMORROW IN 2025.  BUDGET REFLECTS THE CITY'S MISSION TO CULTIVATE AN ENDURING AND COMMUNITY WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO BE. IT SUPPORTS HIGH QUALITY SERVICES WITH STRATEGIC INVESTMENTS IN PUBLIC SAFETY COMMUNITY AND RECREATION AND EQUITABLE ECONOMIC GROWTH.  THE OVERALL PROPOSED TAX LEVY IS SHOWN HERE. THE MAJORITY IS IN THE GENERAL FUND.  IT'S AN INCREASE FROM 2024 OF JUST APPROXIMATELY 7.4 MILLION WHICH IS A $2 MILLION LOWER THAN THE PRELIMINARY LEVY OF APPROVED BY COUNCIL IN SEPTEMBER WHICH IS A REDUCTION FROM THAT ORIGINAL 11 AND A HALF PERCENT FOR THE CITY TAX LEVY TO A 9.8% INCREASE.  THE IMPACT OF THE REVISED PROPOSAL OF A 9.8% INCREASE TO THE TAX LEVY WOULD BE A 6.85% INCREASE FOR THE MEDIAN VALUE HOME WHICH TRANSLATES TO DOLLARS 87 PER WEEK $8.12 A MONTH OR $97 OR $0.41 A YEAR.  HOW THIS COMPARES TO THE REST OF THE STATE ON NOVEMBER 14TH, MINNESOTA DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE RELEASED THE PRELIMINARY 2025 TAX LEVY FOR THE STATE OF MINNESOTA COMBINED CITIES ON AVERAGE INCREASED BY POINT 8% WITH TAX LEVIES. COUNTIES POINT 4%, TOWNSHIPS 6.3, SCHOOLS 4.4 AND THEN SPECIAL TAX DISTRICTS 5.7 TWO . HERE'S A COMPARISON OF THE BLOOMINGTON'S OUR UPDATED 9.8% BY 2025 A TAX LEVY THEY'RE PRESENTING TO YOU TONIGHT HIGHLIGHTED IN GREEN COMPARED TO PUBLISHED PRELIMINARY 2025 TAX LEVY INCREASES IN SOME OTHER COMPARABLE CITIES AROUND THIS IN THE METRO.  HERE'S THE LIST OF CHANGES MADE SINCE SEPTEMBER TO THE BUDGET AND TAX LEVY OF NEARLY $2 MILLION. THIS INCLUDES THE SAME ADJUSTMENTS THAT WERE SHARED WITH THE COUNCIL LAST WEEK'S MEETING AND DISCUSSION ALONG WITH A FEW ADDITIONAL MEASURES THAT COUNCIL DIRECTED US LAST WEEK WE WERE AT 9.25% AND IT CAME DOWN TO 9.8%. WHAT THOSE ADJUSTMENTS  HERE'S THE 2025 GENERAL FUND REVENUES THE NUMBERS ARE ON THE LEFT AND THEN THE GRAPH TO SEE IT VISUALLY THE RIGHT AND THE GRAPH YOU'LL SEE I WENT A LITTLE TOO FAR ON THE GRAPH YOU'LL SEE THE MAJORITY OF THE REVENUES FOR THE GENERAL FUND DO COME FROM PROPERTY TAXES.  IT DOESN'T COME FROM PROPERTY TAXES BUT 69% DOES AND THEN THE NEXT HIGHEST SOURCE OF REVENUE COMING INTO TO FUND THE GENERAL FUND IS FROM LODGING AND ADMISSION TAXES WHICH IS BACK TO LEVELS AND THOSE REVENUES THESE DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE IN THE GENERAL FUND SO ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE GRAPH HERE YOU'LL SEE THAT POLICE DEFINITELY THE MAJORITY OF THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET AND THAT POLICE FIRE PUBLIC WORKS AND PARKS AND RECREATION TOGETHER THOSE ACCOUNT FOR ABOUT 71% OF THE OVERALL GENERAL FUND BUDGET SO WE LOOK AT IT AND BUY DEPARTMENTS FOR OUR EXPENSES ALSO HAVE IN THIS PRESENTATION HOW IT LOOKS IN THE HIGH LEVEL CATEGORIES LIKE SALARIES AND BENEFITS MATERIALS, SUPPLIES AND SERVICES AND INTERNAL CHARGES YOU'LL SEE THAT A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET DOES SUPPORT THE SERVANTS WHO DELIVER THE SERVICES AND SALARIES AND BENEFITS.  HERE'S A SAMPLE PROPERTY TAX STATEMENT FOR THE MEDIAN VALUE HOME SO THOSE PROPERTY TAX STATEMENTS DON'T JUST HAVE THE CITY PORTION OF THE PROPERTY TAXES IT ALSO HAS THE COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT, THE OTHER TAXING JURISDICTIONS.  SO THE CITY'S PORTION OF THE PROPERTY TAX STATEMENT IS ROUGHLY A THIRD OF THE OVERALL PROPERTY TAX AMOUNT AND THE LEFT IS THE AMOUNT SHOWING THE CITY PROPERTY TAX WITH THAT PRELIMINARY 11 AND A HALF PERCENT INCREASE THAT WAS APPROVED IN SEPTEMBER. THE ONE ON THE RIGHT IS NOW SHOWING 299. 8%. AND THEN IF YOU LOOK THE ONLY THING THAT'S CHANGED BETWEEN THOSE TWO IS THE CITY ONE AND THAT HAS GONE DOWN $41.  AND THEN THESE NEXT TWO SLIDES WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT ARE ABOUT THE INFORMATION THE STATE OF MINNESOTA'S PROPERTY TAX REFUND, HOMEOWNERS AND RENTERS IN MINNESOTA. MEANWHILE FIGHT FOR A REFUND WHICH OFFERS PROPERTY TAX RELIEF BASED ON INCOME AND PROPERTY TAXES PAID. AND FOR MORE DETAILS CAN VISIT THE MINNESOTA DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE WEBSITE THAT'S SHOWN OR CALL EITHER OF THESE PHONE NUMBERS AND THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF REFUNDS AVAILABLE ON THE STATE OF MINNESOTA AND ONE P ARE PROPERTY TAX REFUND THERE'S THE REGULAR PROPERTY TAX REFUND WHICH COMPARES TAXES TO TOTAL HOUSEHOLD INCOME AND SPECIAL PROPERTY TAX REFUND WHICH APPLIES TO TAX INCREASES OF 12% OR MORE AND AT LEAST $100 INCREASE THE TAX REFUND FORMS ARE DUE AUGUST 15TH BUT THEY MAY BE FILED UP TO ONE YEAR AFTER THE DUE DATE AND JUST ALSO TO QUALIFY FOR A REFUND THOSE PROPERTIES MUST BE HOMESTEADED.  THERE'S ALSO A SENIOR PROPERTY TAX DEFERRAL PROGRAM THAT CAPS ANNUAL PROPERTY TAXES AT 3% OF THE PREVIOUS YEAR'S INCOME . THE REMAINING TAXES ARE DEFERRED UNTIL, THE PROPERTY IS SOLD OR THE DEFERRAL IS CANCELED AT WHICH POINT THE DEFERRED AMOUNT PLUS INTEREST MUST BE REPAID IN FULL AND TO QUALIFY THE APPLICANT MUST BE 65 YEARS OF AGE OR OLDER AND IF MARRIED SPOUSE MUST BE 62 YEARS OF AGE OR OLDER HOUSEHOLD INCOME MUST BE LESS THAN $96,000.  THE APPLICANT MUST HAVE LIVED IN THE HOMESTEAD OF THE HOMESTEAD AND PROPERTY FOR AT LEAST FIVE YEARS AND THE LOAN ACCRUES INTEREST WHICH VARIES BUT DOES NOT EXCEED 5% AND THE BLOOMINGTON CITY ASSESSOR'S OFFICE IS AVAILABLE TO ASSIST RESIDENTS WITH QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS PROGRAM AND AS MENTIONED EARLIER, CITY ASSESSOR TIM BULGER IS IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS AND IS AVAILABLE TONIGHT IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS SO THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION ON THE 2025 BUDGET TAX LEVY. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE THIS INFORMATION AND THE WORK THAT HAS GONE INTO THIS YEAR'S BUDGET PROCESS. THANK YOU, MS. CARLSON COUNCIL QUESTIONS OF MS. CARLSON COUNCILMEMBER WOMAN SO JUST REALLY JUST ONE QUESTION AND I ALREADY ASKED IT EARLIER BUT I JUST WANT THE PUBLIC TO HAVE THE BENEFIT OF HEARING QUESTION I KNOW WHEN WE STARTED OFF BEFORE THERE WAS A SLIDE THAT HAD OUR PRELIMINARY LEVY OF 11.25 OR THAT PRELIMINARY LEVY AND THE CORRESPONDING INCREASE FOR THE OUT YEAR OF 2026 WAS APPROXIMATELY 15 15% AND WE'D START OFF WITH AND NOW THAT WE'VE REDUCED OUR BY THE GOOD WORK OF THE STAFF BRING IT DOWN IN E DIRECTION OF THE COUNCIL DOWN  PERCENT WHAT DOES THAT NOW LOOK LIKE FOR 2026 MAYOR COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN I'LL JUST START BY SAYING THAT AS A STARTING PLACE 2026 SO A PROJECTION BASED ON WHAT WE KNOW NOW AND FACTORING DIFFERENT CONSIDERATIONS SUCH AS NOT HAVING ANY TAX LEVY STABILIZATION USED FOR THE 2026 BUDGET BUT HAVING JUST PRELIMINARY I DON'T HAVE THAT IDEA BUT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE THAT CITY MANAGER BUT I THINK IT WAS CLOSE TO 18%. YEAH. 17.92%. YES SORRY I DON'T THINK YOU SPOT I THINK FOR YOU AND THAT ALSO WOULD INCLUDE AN ALMOST 5% INCREASE JUST FOR DEBT SERVICE FOR CAPITAL AND RIGHT NOW OUR DEBT SERVICE WAS 0.56% OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN OUR CURRENT BUDGET THAT WE'RE LOOKING.  SO THAT'S YES PERCENTAGE INCREASE SO JUST TRYING TO PUT THIS ALL IN CONTEXT IN TERMS OF WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY SO THANK YOU FOR IT. SO LET'S REMEMBER REVISE I, I JUST HAVE A COMMENT OR PERHAPS A SUGGESTION ON THIS. I KNOW THAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING HAVING AN 18% INCREASE FOR 2026 RANGE. SO IT FROM WHAT I IS CORRECT ME IF I MISUNDERSTOOD THE THE EXPLANATION SO IF HE'S 18% NOW NOW WILL BE THE TIME TO LOOK AT CUTS TO UNNECESSARY THINGS. SO WE HAVE MAYBE WE IT NECESSARY AT THIS POINT BUT THAT COULD HAVE AN IMPACT IN THE FUTURE WE COULD SAVE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON GOOD YEAH BECAUSE I MEAN AT THIS POINT YOU KNOW AND PLEASE FORGIVE ME BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THE RECOLLECTION OF DISCUSSING ALL THESE ITEMS AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE AR. I MEAN I PROBABLY HAVING TOO MUCH INFORMATION IN MY BRAIN THAT I WAS IT WAS ALL WELL MADE THAT POINT. BUT I'M SURE THAT IF I GO TO THAT I CAN FIND ANSWERS TO MY QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW BUT MY POINT IS THAT AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT IF WE'RE ANTICIPATING FOR 2026 AN INCREASE OF 18% POSSIBLE OF YOU KNOW, THE LEVY OF 18% WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT THIS POINT NOW HAVE TO CUT MORE IN THIS BUDGET BEFORE PASS IT SO WE HAVE A BETTER IDEA WHAT WE CAN DO FOR NEXT YEAR BECAUSE.  I DON'T THINK IT'S SUSTAINABLE FOR A LOT OF THE ELDERLY PEOPLE LIVING IN THE AREA.  IT'S I KNOW IT'S SOMETHING THAT I PROBABLY WE DON'T WANT TO HERE RIGHT NOW BUT I DON'T BELIEVE IS SUSTAINABLE. I HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE EMAILING ME EVEN NOT FROM MY DISTRICT.  I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE FACT THAT THERE IS A VERY HIGH INCREASE AND I KNOW THAT COMMENT I WANT TO MAKE IS IF WE TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE FRANCHISE FEES EVEN THOUGH THIS MEMBER RELIES LET'S THINK TWO QUESTIONS NOW LET'S HAVE THE PUBLIC AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THE COMMENTS. WE CAN HAVE THE DISCUSSION AFTERWARD. THAT'S TYPICALLY HOW WE DO. YEAH.  YOU KNOW, I HAVEN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY WHAT I NEED TO SAY BECAUSE I'M ALWAYS BEING CUT WHEN I SHOULD BE TRYING TO SAY IT. I KNOW IT MIGHT SOUND TO ANY SIGN OF YOU BUT THE REALITY IS CAN YOU EXCUSE ME RIGHT AND LET ME FINISH I APPRECIATE COUNCIL MEMBER COUNCIL MEMBERS SERIOUSLY. I MEAN THIS IS BEEN PLACE EVERY TIME WHENEVER I WANT MEMORY LOSS EXCUSE ME THE WE SET WITH THE WAY WE HANDLE OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS IS WE ASK QUESTIONS AHEAD OF TIME WE GET THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN WE THEN THERE IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR COUNCIL COMMENT AND OPINION BUT WE GET THE QUESTIONS OUT OF THE WAY FIRST WHAT WE WANT DON'T WANT TO DO IS PUT YOUR YOUR COMMENTARY AHEAD OF THE PUBLIC HEARING COME BACK ON THAT NO THEN WE JUST ASK THE QUESTION AND WHEN WE PAID THE BENEFITS FOR ALL THE STAFF DO WE ALSO INCLUDE THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS OR IS IT JUST FOR FOR THE EMPLOYEE, THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS? COUNCILMAN RIVAS THERE THERE ARE OPTIONS FOR EMPLOYEES TO CHOOSE A EMPLOYEE ONLY HEALTH INSURANCE PLAN OR PERSON OR A FAMILY AND THE CITY DOES CONTRIBUTE TOWARDS A PORTION OF THE OF ALL OF THOSE PLANS THE EMPLOYEES PAY MORE FOR THE TWO PERSON OR FAMILY PLANS BUT THE DEPENDENT S OF AN EMPLOYEE THERE IS AN OPTION TO BRING THOSE ONTO THE HEALTH INSURANCE THAT IS COMMON PRACTICE IN ANY BUSINESS WOULD LIKE IF I CAN REPHRASE MY QUESTION IS HOW MUCH IS A QUESTION PERCENTAGE OF A CONTRIBUTION TO C PROVIDES FOR THE EMPLOYEE TO BRING THEIR FAMILY INTO THE BENEFIT ?  MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS THAT AMOUNT VARIES DEPENDING ON THE PLAN SO THE PERCENTAGE IS DIFFERENT FOR AN EMPLOYEE OR AN EMPLOYEE PLUS ONE OR A FAMILY IN WHEN WE LOOK AT IT ACROSS ALL OF THOSE PLANS THE BLENDED RATE IS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF ABOUT 92%. IS THAT WHAT THE NUMBER WAS THIS YEAR?  SO THAT CONTINUES.  MAYOR, IF I MAY, WE APPROVED THAT EARLIER THIS EVENING AND I'M CONCERNED THOSE REIMBURSEMENTS THEY WERE ALL AND WE DID AND WE'VE HAD THE PRESENTATION I THINK I CAN'T WHEN BUT WITHIN THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS WE DID HAVE THE PRESENTATION FROM H.R. BUT SO THE CONTRIBUTION TO THE CITY IS AGAIN CORRECT ME IF I'M MISUNDERSTANDING THIS THE CONTRIBUTION THE CITY DOES FOR A FAMILY MEMBER OR A ONE OR TWO OR THREE IS 92%. I THINK WHERE IT SHAKES OUT ON THE AVERAGE DEPENDING ON AGAIN INDIVIDUAL INDIVIDUAL PLUS ONE FAMILY, THAT KIND OF THING. SO MY QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, THAT COULD BE A GREAT I MEAN NO BUSINESS THAT I KNOW OF . SO WAS AGAIN COUNCILMEMBER QUESTIONS AND WE'LL HAVE THE COMMENTARY AND THE OPINION OPTION AFTER THEY SAID THANK YOU THERE'S SUFFICIENT FOR ME THANK YOU.  OKAY. THANK YOU COUNSEL. ANY ADDITIONAL QUEIONS TONIGHT ON THE PRESENTATION THAT WE SAW?  ALL RIGHT. HEARING NONE.  THANK YOU. MS.. CARLSON. DON'T GO FAR. I'M SURE WE'LL HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS AS WE GO HERE. WITH THAT I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 4.2 THIS EVENING. THIS IS OUR 2025 TRUTH AND TAXATION HEARING AS I MENTIONED, WHAT I WOULD APPRECIATE IS IF YOU FOLKS IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, IF YOU COULD JUST KIND OF LINE UP RIGHT DOWN THE CENTER AND BASICALLY THE CLIPBOARD DOWN THE MIDDLE. JUST JUST HAND IT BACK AND WE MAKE SURE WE GET EVERYBODY SIGNED IN SO THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO SPEND TIME FOR PEOPLE TO GET SIGNED IN AND AND REGISTERED. AND AS I SAID, YOU'LL HAVE 5 MINUTES AND I WILL CUT YOU OFF AT THE 5 MINUTES AND WE WILL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS A AS A GROUP AT THE END OF OF TRUTH IN TAXATION HEARING. SO AND I'LL NEED YOU TO DO AS YOU COME UP IF YOU JUST IDENTIFY YOURSELF WE'LL JUST NEED YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. YEAH. JASON AND FIRST WHY DON'T YOU DO SINCE YOU'RE FIRST IN LINE WHY DON'T YOU SIGN IN QUICK AND THEN HAND IT BACK AND WE CAN START THE THE DAISY CHAIN ? VERY GOOD. GOOD EVENING. WELCOME, MR. MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME?  JOHN SCHUMACHER. I LIVE AT 8311 WEST 1/10 STREET. I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT SINCE 1992 AND I'M HOPING THAT THIS MEETING NOT JUST LIP SERVICE FROM THE COUNCIL THAT MAYBE YOU WILL ACTUALLY LISTEN HEAR OUR CONCERNS. MY PROPOSED PROPERTY TAX SHOWS A PROPERTY VALUE INCREASE OF ABOUT 2% WITH A TOTAL INCREASE TAX OF 11% AND APPARENTLY I'M ONE OF THE LUCKY ONES BECAUSE MY CITY PORTION IS GOING NEARLY 13% EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 9.18%. 13% IS WELL OVER FIVE TIMES THE CURRENT INFLATION RATE THAT DEALING WITH ACROSS THE COUNTRY. WHEN WILL IT END?  OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS THE CITY HAS CONTINUED TO INCREASE ITS WITH NO END IN SIGHT. SO MY EXAMPLES THAT I SEEN.  THE CITY HAS ITS OWN EARNED SICK AND SAFE LEAVE LEGISLATION AND PERSONNEL TO MONITOR IT. THE ESL IS NOW STATE LAW. ALL THE LOCAL LEGISLATION THAT WE HAVE HERE THE PERSONNEL WE HAVE HERE SHOULD BE IMMEDIATELY ELIMINATED SEVERAL YEARS.  THE CITY IN MY OPINION ILLEGALLY ADDED MANAGED GARBAGE COLLECTION.  THE CITY FOUGHT THIS ALL THE WAY TO THE STATE SUPREME COURT WHICH COST US MORE MONEY AS WE PUT MONEY IN FOR YOU TO FIGHT PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T AGREE WITH YOU.  THE CITY WAS FOUND TO BE IN VIOLATION OF ITS OWN CHARTER AND I'M STILL CONVINCED THE STATE THAT IF I GOT MY OWN HAULER MY PRICE WOULD BE THE SAME AND THE CITY COULD STAFF AND EXPENSES IN THAT AREA AS WELL. THE CITY'S AD SMOKING ON THE BOOKS THAT'S IRRELEVANT AS WE HAVE A STATEWIDE BAN THIS SHOULD BE ELIMINATED. THE CITY ALSO HAS ADDED SMOKING REGULATIONS ESSENTIALLY HAS MADE ANY TOBACCO STORE WORTHLESS WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS.  YOU'VE IMPACTED BUSINESS OWNERS IN A NEGATIVE WAY.  HOWEVER, THE CITY HAS NO PROBLEM ADDING MORE STORES. CASE IN POINT BOBBY AND STEVE'S DOWN IN ARMADALE AND OLD SHAKOPEE. JUST WHAT WE NEED CAN'T SWING A DEAD CAT IN THE CITY. WELL HITTING LIQUOR STORE BUT WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE. THE OLD THUNDERBIRD IS NOW CITY OWNED EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS A PRIVATE PROPERTY PRIVATE THAT WAS INTERESTED IN PURCHASING THE LAND. THE PORT AUTHORITY OF THE CITY OUTBID THE PRIVATE PARTY AND TOOK THE LAND OFF THE MARKET AND WE HAVE NO TAX COMING FROM THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY. HOW MANY THOUSANDS DOLLARS WOULD BE SPENT ON THE WORLD'S FAIR BID AS WELL AS THE UNNEEDED WATER PARK?  THE CITY ELIMINATED OUR DMV SPOT AND ADDED OF DOLLARS OF ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL MOST RECENTLY THE COUNCIL ALONG WITH THE CITY MANAGER ENDORSED PROMOTED THE CITY SALES TAX. THOUGH THIS IS NOW PART OF THE GENERAL FUND IT IMPACTS OUR CITY RESIDENTS AND THE PEOPLE THAT VISIT US. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING WAS SUPPOSED TO BE $155 MILLION INVESTMENT IN THE CITY. NOW A FEW DIFFERENT MEETINGS THAT I'VE SEEN AND HEARD IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S GETTING TO 175 OR $180 MILLION. IT FEELS WE THE RESIDENTS WERE CLEARLY MISLED ON WHAT THE COSTS WERE GOING TO BE.  THE SALES TAX SHOULD BE IMMEDIATELY SUSPENDED UNTIL YOU CAN CLEARLY US WHAT THE COST IS GOING TO BE. IT IS NOT AN OPEN CHECKBOOK BECAUSE YOU HAVE SALES TAX COMING IN . THESE ARE ALL EXAMPLES OF AREAS THAT EXPENSES CAN BE REDUCED WHICH CAN HELP OUR PROPERTY TAXES. PEOPLE BEHIND ME.  THERE IS A PERVASIVE BUDGETING PROCESS WITHIN THE CITY COUNTY THE SCHOOL BOARD AND THAT IS THAT THE CITY OR WHOEVER IT IS NEEDS TO HAVE NEEDS TO AND HAS TO HAVE ITS FUNDING NO MATTER WHAT. THE CITY HAS NO ABILITY TO CUT COSTS OR REEXAMINE THOSE COSTS AND WE THE RESIDENTS THE PEOPLE SITTING BEHIND ME JUST HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT AND TOO BAD YOU GUYS. I EXPECT BETTER FROM THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE CITY MANAGER. THANK YOU. THANK AND FOLKS, I JUST WANT TO SAY I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF YOU WOULD RESPECT THE DECORUM OF THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS WE'RE NOT GOING TO APPLAUD. WE'RE NOT GOING BOO IF SOMEBODY ELSE COMES UP AND OFFERS SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU'RE THINKING. WE'RE JUST GOING TO LISTEN TO WHAT PEOPLE HAVE TO SAY. WE'RE GOING TO RESPECT WHAT THEY SAY AND YOU CAN NOT IN AGREEMENT AND YOU KNOW, MAYBE THEM A HIGH FIVE ON THE WAY BACK TO THEIR CHAIR BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BOO. WE'RE NOT GOING TO APPLAUD.  NOT GOING TO CHEER. WE'RE GOING TO RESPECT THE DECORUM OF THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. THANK YOU.  HELLO. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS CHERYL PATTERSON AND I HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT IN BLOOMINGTON FOR ABOUT 38 YEARS. FIRST OF ALL, I WANTED TO THANK MR. REAVIS AND MR. NELSON FOR AT LEAST SAYING THAT WE SHOULDN'T KEEP SPENDING. BUT AT THE END THE VOTE EVERYBODY VOTES YES. SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY TODAY THAT I NOTICED AND I LOOKED UP AND 2022 WE HAD A LEVY INCREASE IN DECEMBER 2920 22 OF 9.15% IN 23 7.97%. AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER TAX LEVY THIS YEAR AND PROBABLY NEXT YEAR. SO MADE LOTS OF IMPROVEMENTS IN BLOOMINGTON A COUPLE OF THEN TO KENNEDY AND HIGH SCHOOLS FOR COMMUNITY CENTERS. WE CAN ALL SWIM RUN NOBODY USES THOSE ANYMORE BUT WE'VE SPENT ALL KINDS OF OUR MONEY. I KNOW GOVERNMENT HAS A HARD TIME STAYING IN BUDGET BUT I WOULD APPRECIATE REVISITING BECAUSE WE VOTED FOR ALL OF YOU GUYS TO REPRESENT US SO THAT WE WOULDN'T BE TAXED OUT OF OUR HOMES. MY HUSBAND AND I ARE 66 AND 68. WE WORK FULL TIME. WE BOTH HAVE CANCER. WE HAVEN'T BEEN TO THESE PARKS BECAUSE WE ARE TOO BUSY WORKING TO PAY THESE TAXES.  SO I WOULD APPRECIATE SOME COMPASSION IN THINKING ABOUT US AND HOW HARD WE ARE WORKING TO.  TRY TO MAINTAIN BLOOMINGTON SOME PLACE WE DO LIKE WE ENJOY THE PARKS BECAUSE WE'RE TOO BUSY WORKING.  A COUPLE OF RECOMMENDATIONS I HAVE I HAVE BEEN A NURSE MANAGER AND CITY HOSPITALS. I APPRECIATE THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT NEEDS SOME TEMPORARY STAFFING. WHEN I WAS NURSE MANAGER WE BROUGHT IN TRAVELERS. THEY'RE VERY EXPENSIVE THEY'RE SHORT TERM AND THEY DON'T THEY'RE JUST FILLING IN A HOLE. WE NEED TO GET THOSE POSITIONS FILLED THAT ARE PROBABLY ALREADY BUDGETED FOR. ANOTHER THING I READ IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO IMPROVE A PARK HALF OF THE YEAR. THE PARKS ARE DARK AND COLD BUT WE'LL BE PAYING TAXES ALL YEAR. ONE OF THE PARKS IS A TREE BALL PARK FOR BIKE SKILLS MOW THE GRASS THAT PARK, TRIM THE TREES AND LET THE KIDS CREATE A PARK.  LET THEM PARK TREAT THE BIKE SKILLS THAT THEY WANT TO HAVE. ADULTS DON'T NEED TO BE DOING THAT. ANOTHER THING THAT CAME IN ON THE FLIER IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO PUT ADAPTIVE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT IN A PARK. WE NEED TO REPURPOSE SOME EQUIPMENT, MAKE IT NICE FOR KIDS THAT NEED A MORE ADAPTIVE PLAYGROUND. BUT MOST OF ALL I JUST WANT TO SAY PLEASE THINK OF US. WE CAN'T BE PAYING THESE TAXES. EVERYTHING'S SO EXPENSIVE. GROCERIES TRYING TO BUY A NEW CAR, TRYING TO FILL UP OUR CARS WITH, GAS AND IT'S JUST TOO MUCH. SO I JUST ASK YOU TONIGHT TO PLEASE OF US AS YOU ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THIS BUDGET PLEASE LIVE WITHIN YOUR MEANS AND OUR MEANS. THANK YOU.  THANK YOU.  GOOD EVENING. JILLIAN FERGUSON, MORE THAN 30 YEAR RESIDENTS OF BLOOMINGTON. FIRST, I BELIEVE I'M ASSUMING CORRECTLY THAT ALL OF YOU EXPECT RESIDENTS BE FOLLOWING CITY CODES AND THAT THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE LOCATED IN BLOOMINGTON AND DO BUSINESS IN BLOOMINGTON ARE PROPERLY LICENSED AND CURRENT WITH THE LICENSORS. HOWEVER, THIS IS NOT THE STANDARD THAT'S BEING FOLLOWED BY THE CITY MANAGER AND CITY COUNCIL WHEN SPENDING OUR TAX DOLLARS AND SPECIFICALLY I'M SPEAKING OF THE BLOOMINGTON THEATER ARTS COMPANY DOING BUSINESS AS ART HISTORY A NONPROFIT ACCORDING THE MINNESOTA ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE.  MUST REGISTER SUBMIT THEIR FINANCIALS AND IF THEY DON'T IT IS A VIOLATION OF MINNESOTA LAW TO SOLICIT IN MINNESOTA WITHOUT BEING REGISTERED.  AND THAT'S ACCORDING TO MINNESOTA STATUTE 309.515.57 SUBDIVISION ONE. I WILL LET YOU KNOW THAT I HAVE DONE A LOT RESEARCH AND I'VE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH THE MINNESOTA ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE SINCE 2023. I HAVE ALL THE BACKUP ARTISTRY HAS NOT BEEN REGISTERED LEGALLY WITH THE MINNESOTA ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE SINCE 2019. JUST IN I APPRECIATE THE INFORMATION WE WILL LOOK INTO THAT. BUT THE SPECIFIC PUBLIC HERE IS ON THE WELL IT'S HOW YOU'RE SPENDING OUR TAX MONEY.  THEY WERE NOT REGISTERED AND YOU GAVE THEM $30,000 AND THEN ANOTHER $250,000.  DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THE TAXING THE LEVY? THIS IS ALL INCLUDED.  WE KNOW THAT ARTISTRY AND THE CULTURAL ARTS ARE RECEIVING MONEY.  OUR MONEY AND IT'S ALSO BEING FUNNELED THROUGH CREATIVE PLACEMAKING AS WELL. SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND OUR TAX MONIES YOU BETTER BE WELL AND SURE THAT THOSE ENTITIES THAT YOU ARE DOING BUSINESS WITH, ESPECIALLY A NONPROFIT LEGALLY GET TO GET OUR TAX MONEY. AND IF YOU WANT A FURTHER I HAVE ALL OF THE INFORMATION FROM THE AG'S OFFICE INCLUDING THREE LETTERS OF VIOLATION FROM THEM.  THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. MY NAME IS RICK OLIVA.  AFTER HEARING THE FIRST SPEAKER I THINK I FEEL LUCKY BECAUSE MY PROPERTY VALUE ACTUALLY WENT DOWN.  SO MY PROPOSED INCREASE ON MY STATEMENT ONLY WENT UP BY POINT 6%. I UNDERSTAND THINGS COST MONEY AS WE GO ON AND SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE IS AND THIS IS A SUSTAINABLE FOR ME NOW BECAUSE IT'S ONLY 4.6%. BUT WHAT HAPPENS A YEAR FROM NOW, TWO YEARS FROM NOW WHEN MY PROPERTY VALUE GOES BACK UP THEN IT SKYROCKETS RIGHT.  AND SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS WHAT WOULD MAKE ME ECSTATIC IS IF WHEN MY PROPERTY VALUES WENT DOWN I AT LEAST DIDN'T PAY MORE PREFERABLY PAID LESS.  WHAT I THINK WHAT I WOULD BE WITH WOULD BE I BELIEVE THE SLIDE SAID THAT THE AVERAGE IS 8.8% ACROSS THE STATE. RIGHT NOW WE'RE SITTING AT 9.18%. IT'S NOT BAD BUT IT WAS AT LEAST JUST OKAY THIS IS WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE IS PAYING. I'D BE FINE. I WOULDN'T HAPPY ABOUT IT BUT IT'S LIKE OKAY YOU KNOW THIS IS JUST WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST TO DO BUSINESS TO YOU KNOW, TO LIVE IN BLOOMINGTON. SO I'D LIKE YOU TO JUST CONSIDER OR IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU CAN DO TO BRING IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT MORE BECAUSE I THINK ONE OF THE HARD PARTS AS WE TALK A LOT ABOUT  AFFORDABLE HOUSING BUT WHEN THE PROPERTY TAXES KEEP GOING UP THE HOUSING BECOMES LESS AFFORDABLE. THE OTHER THING WOULD BE I DON'T KNOW IF YOU DID THIS. I'M A LITTLE BIT LATE TO THE GAME BUT IF YOU JUST SAID HEY, IF WE DIDN'T INCREASE TAXES AT ALL, IF WE KEPT THEM EXACTLY WHERE THEY ARE, THESE ARE THE CUTS THAT WE'D HAVE TO MAKE.  THEY'D BE DEEP. THEN THE PEOPLE COULD SEE IT AND SAY WELL WOULD BE HORRIBLE. I'M WILLING TO PAY YOU KNOW, TO HAVE THESE THINGS THAT I WANT.  OR THEY MIGHT SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE'RE FINE WITH THAT. GO AHEAD AND, DO IT. BUT I THINK IF YOU GAVE PEOPLE THAT OPTION AND IT'S YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT A SHOCKING TYPE OF THING BUT I THINK THAT WOULD ALSO BE HELPFUL.  SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, MR. LIEBER.  FELLOW CITY COUNCIL ANDY THOR ,53, IS 53 YEARS RESIDENT OF BLOOMINGTON.  I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE A FINANCIAL CLIFF COMING TO AND IT'LL ACTUALLY BE HERE SOONER THAN THAN WE THINK BUT WITH THAT 18% WE'RE PROPOSING NEXT YEAR. I MEAN LET ME JUST YOU AN EXAMPLE WE JUST RAISED PROPERTY TAX ABOUT A HALF PERCENT OF SALES TAX AND IN DOING SO THE COMMUNITY THE COMMUNITY CENTER THAT'S PLANNED TO HAVE SURFACE LEVEL PARKING, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE POTENTIAL $22 MILLION PARKING RAMP. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING TO COME FROM FOR THAT . OBVIOUSLY THE COMMUNITY CENTER IS GOING TO NEED TO BE STAFFED. RIGHT. SO WE GET ALL THE BENEFITS AND THE STAFFING THAT WILL BE COMING YOU FOR FOR ALL TAXPAYERS TO PAY. I BELIEVE THE COST OF THIS CENTER IS GOING TO BE HEAVILY SUBSIDIZED BY THE TAXPAYERS AS WELL. SO BUT THAT HALF A PERCENT SALES TAX A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE DRIVING ELSEWHERE NOT VERY SUSTAINABLE, YOU KNOW TO TO SAVE MONEY TO NOT PAY THE SALES TAX.  THERE'S ONE THING THAT A LOT OF COMPANIES ARE DUMPING RIGHT NOW IT'S CALLED DIVERSITY EQUITY AND INCLUSION HASN'T DONE ANYTHING FOR THE CITY. OUR NEIGHBORS ARE NEIGHBORS. I LIVE ON THE EAST SIDE VERY DIVERSE NEIGHBORHOOD.  WE LOVE EACH OTHER. LOOKS LIKE WE SPENT 440 SOME THOUSAND IN THE DIVERSITY, EQUITY AND INCLUSION DEPARTMENT.  I THINK WE'VE ABOLISHED THAT KIND OF FOLLOW. WAL-MART AND MANY OTHER LEADS IN THAT REGARD AND GET RID OF IT ALTOGETHER. THE FIREFIGHTER GRANT A FEDERALLY FUNDED GRANT. EVENTUALLY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE FUND ALL THESE FULL TIME FIREFIGHTERS THAT'S GOING TO HIT TAXPAYERS VERY HARD. YOU KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE COMING QUICKLY.  ONE THING I NOTICED TOO. WE'VE RESTRUCTURED OUR CITY MANAGERS THE MANAGERS PAY WAS LISTED AS ASSISTANT CITY MANAGERS.  AT TWO THERE WAS 192 201,000 WHEREAS THE MEDIAN WAGE OF ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER IS ABOUT 96,000. SO OVER DOUBLE THE THE MEDIAN SALARY FOR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGERS LOOKS A SAW RECENTLY WE'RE GOING TO BE FACING SOME KIND OF $55 MILLION WORTH OF WATER AND SEWER UPGRADES KIND OF COMING OUR WAY.  WHO KNOWS IF THE NINE MILE CREEK IS GOING TO RUN OVER BUDGET? IT SOUNDS LIKE THE BLOOMINGTON GUARDS MIGHT NEED MORE MONEY THAN WHAT WAS PROJECTED.  SO BASICALLY I WORK FOR THE GOVERNMENT MYSELF RIGHT AND I KNOW THAT PEOPLE CAN LIVE WITHOUT A BUDGET IF THEY LAY THINGS KIND OF SYSTEMATICALLY YEAR AFTER YEAR. THERE ISN'T SOME PERCENTAGES YOU CAN CUT FROM EACH DEPARTMENT IF YOU'RE ACTUALLY FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE.  WHAT WE NEED IN THE CITY IS A CITY MANAGER WHO CAN ACTUALLY RUN A POCKETBOOK OR A CHECKBOOK. I'M LOOKING AT YOU MUST HAVE A BREWERY.  YOU'VE RAN THE CITY ON THE GROUND AND IT SHOWS AND IT'S VERY SAD. THANK YOU.  GOOD EVENING. WELCOME TO EVENING MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS MY NAME IS ROGER OF ART. I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT IN EAST BLOOMINGTON FOR OVER 30 YEARS NOW SO RECENTLY I RECEIVED A CALL FROM MY ARCHITECT FOR MY SON IN LAW WHO LIVES IN SOUTH SAINT PAUL AND SAID THAT HIS PROPERTY TAXES WERE GOING DOWN 2%. SO I WAS KIND OF EXCITED WAITING FOR MY STATEMENT TO SHOW UP AND OF COURSE I WAS SOMEWHAT FEELINGS OF CONSTERNATION WHEN I REALIZED THAT MY HOME I'D LAST YEAR GOING UP 11% SO THAT MOTIVATED ME TO DIG INTO SOME NUMBERS A LITTLE.  SO THE MINNESOTA DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE HAS A WEBSITE I SUGGEST PEOPLE LOOK AT IT THAT'S GOT A SPREADSHEET THAT BASICALLY AS A PRELIMINARY CITY LEVIES FOR ALL THE CITIES IN MINNESOTA. SO I LOOKED AT THE ONES AROUND US AND JUST DID A LITTLE BIT OF NUMBER CRUNCHING ON MY OWN ON DIVIDING THE CITY LEVY BY THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTS EACH OF THE CITIES. AND SO FOR EAGAN FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU DO THAT YOU PER RESIDENT THEY'RE PAYING $784 IN PROPERTY TAX IN BURNSVILLE IT'S 816 IN SAVAGE 773 AND SHOCK P IT'S 567 IN PRAIRIES 803 RICHFIELD 820 YOU GET TO BLOOMINGTON AND YOU DO THAT SAME CALCULATION AND AT LEAST WITH THE INITIAL THE PRELIMINARY LEVY IT WAS $1,026 EVEN WITH THE REVISED NUMBER THAT I SAW TONIGHT IT STILL WORKS OUT TO AROUND $1,000. SO FOR SOME REASON OUR RESIDENTS ARE PAYING 25% MORE IN IN PROPERTY TAXES THAN THE CITIES AROUND US. I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT IS. I HAVEN'T BEEN I MEAN I'LL BE HONEST, I HADN'T REALLY BEEN FOLLOWING WHAT THE CITY'S BEEN DOING THE LAST FEW YEARS. BUT I'VE GOTTEN THESE A COUPLE OF THESE INCREASES AND IT SEEMS LIKE BLOOMINGTON IS OUT OF LINE WITH THE REST OF THE THESE OTHER CITIES HAVE FULL TIME FIRE DEPARTMENTS. THEY HAVE POLICE DEPARTMENTS,  THEY HAVE CITY MAINTENANCE WORKERS THAT, YOU KNOW, FILL THE POTHOLES OF THEIR STREETS AND THEY SEEM TO BE GETTING BY MUCH LESS PER RESIDENT THAN WE DO IN WASHINGTON. SO AND I NOTICED IN THE COMMUNICATIONS THAT WE GET THAT THERE'S A YOU KNOW,  THERE'S THIS CONSTANT MANTRA THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE, YOU KNOW, MAKING WAY FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND.  THE PROBLEM IS IS NOW YOU KNOW, IF YOU GET OFF HOUSING AFFORDABLE YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY THE TAXES ON THE HOUSE AND AND ALSO I'M NOT AWARE THAT ANY OF THESE OTHER SURROUNDING CITIES PUSHED I MEAN WE'VE PUSHED SOME ITEMS OF OUR BUDGET ONTO THE SALES TAX YOU KNOW, THE MOYER PARK THAT HOUSE GARDEN, THE CREEKSIDE COMMUNITY AND WE STILL HAVE WAY ABOVE ALL OUR NEIGHBORING CITIES SO THAT'S MY CONCERN. SO THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. THANK YOU .  I DON'T SEE A HAND UP HERE. I KNOW WE LOSE THE PEN. I'LL I'LL I'LL READ IT AFTER. HI. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS JOHN PILLER QUAID AND I LIVE ON 82ND IN WASHBURN . THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR HAVING THIS MEETING TONIGHT. I DIDN'T A PLAN SPEECH BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW IF I WANTED TO SPEAK OR NOT BUT I DO A SECOND WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE HAS SAID ALSO I WANTED TO SAY HOW PROUD I AM TO LIVE IN BLOOMINGTON BECAUSE I THINK THAT WE DO RUN A LOT BETTER THAN OTHER CITIES JUST BASED ON FRIENDS AND FAMILY. I HAVE LIVED IN CITIES THAT SURROUND US BUT I DO THINK THAT THE BEING FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE MOVING FORWARD BECAUSE IF WE YOU KNOW HAVE A 9% INCREASE THIS YEAR BUT AN 18% YOU KNOW, INCREASE NEXT YEAR IT'S THE SAME THING IF WE DO AN 11 THIS YEAR AND 16 NEXT YEAR, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST IT'S GOING TO BE THE SAME HOWEVER IT WORKS.  SO JUST REALLY CONSIDERING YOU KNOW WHAT WE CAN CUT WE YOU KNOW WHAT'S UNNECESSARY, WHAT'S A HIGH PRIORITY, WHAT'S YOU KNOW LIKE HOW WE CAN ALL LIVE WITHIN OUR MEANS LIKE THAT WE HAVE TO DO AS YOU KNOW HOMEOWNERS YOU KNOW WE CAN'T CONTROL THE COST OF EVERYTHING BUT I DO THINK THAT REALLY THE THOUGHTFULNESS AND AGAIN CONSIDERING YOU KNOW, THE RESIDENTS BECAUSE WE DO ALL REALLY LOVE THE CITY I MEAN WOULD PEOPLE STAY HERE FOR DECADES BUT YOU KNOW, JUST JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER AND THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAVE SO THANK YOU THANK YOU .  MR. ALDERMAN DO WE HAVE ANYONE ON THE LINE WISHING TO SPEAK TONIGHT?  MR. MAYOR, THERE'S NO ONE ON LINE OTHERS WHO WANT TO SPEAK TONIGHT  PLEASE COME ON FORWARD. YEP.  I THINK YEAH. MARILYN ADAMS. I LIVE AT 84TH AND KELL AND I'VE BEEN IN BLOOMINGTON SINCE 2013. I JUST HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE PRESENTATION SO I'M SURE IF I INTERPRETED SOMETHING CORRECTLY OR MAYBE DIDN'T CATCH IT CLEARLY SO I WANTED TO ASK DID YOU MENTION THAT IT WAS SOMETHING LIKE 15 MILLION COMES IN TO THE BUDGET FROM?  WAS IT COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE LIKE THE HOTEL INDUSTRY OR WAS THAT 15 MILLION AROUND THERE AND?  THEN ANOTHER 15 MILLION COMES IN FROM COMMUNITY FEES FOR PARK AND COMMUNITY TYPE THINGS . SEEMS TO ME THAT I DON'T KNOW THEY JUST SEEMED KIND OF FUNNY THAT WHOLE THE WHOLE HUGE INDUSTRY WOULD CONTRIBUTE 15 MILLION AND THEN INDIVIDUALS WOULD ALSO FOR TAKING A CLASS YOU KNOW, POLKA DANCING OR SOMETHING I WOULD HAVE TO PAY FEES HIGH ENOUGH THAT WOULD BE EQUAL TO WHAT A WHOLE INDUSTRY CONTRIBUTES. SO I JUST I DON'T KNOW IF I DID I MISSED SOMETHING IT IT SEEMS LIKE THEY WOULD A LOT MORE THAN THE INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE WOULD BE WHAT WILL CLARIFY THAT?  THANK YOU. WE'LL DEFINITELY DO THAT. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU AND OTHERS WISHING TO SPEAK TONIGHT, ROBERT.  I'D BE DISAPPOINTED YOU DIDN'T COME FORWARD. COME ON.  HI, MY NAME IS ROBERT COLEMAN. I'VE LIVED IN BLOOMINGTON SINCE 2009 AND I.  I RENT AN APARTMENT OBVIOUSLY I DON'T IMMEDIATELY SEE YOU KNOW, I DON'T SEE THE PROPERTY TAX NAME AND THERE THE STICKER SHOCK BUT I IN GENERAL SUPPORTIVE OF THE CONTINUATION OF SERVICE FOR THIS IT DOES SEEM PRETTY CLEAR NEXT YEAR THERE HAS TO BE CUTS AND I I'M SURE THAT THERE WILL BE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE VERY ANGRY ABOUT THAT AND I WILL BE TOO LIKE I LOVE BLOOMINGTON SO MUCH AND IF YOU THINK ABOUT LIKE PLYMOUTH RIGHT THERE AT THE BOTTOM OF THAT LIST I I'VE BEEN TO PLYMOUTH MULTIPLE TIMES AND IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THEY HAVE A LOT OF THINGS TO OFFER THAT THE BLOOMINGTON DOES KNOW.  NO OFFENSE TO THEM BUT YOU KNOW AND THERE IS JUST THE THE FACT OF HOW OUR CITIES ARE DESIGNED THAT SOME CITIES ARE DESIGNED TO BE MORE EXPENSIVE THAN OTHERS WHEN IN THE 1970 CENSUS BLOOMINGTON WAS 98.7% WHITE AND THAT WASN'T AN ACCIDENT AND IT JUST I'M SURE THAT IN SOME OTHER COMMUNITIES IN THE METRO AREA THAT ARE ALSO DESIGNED TO BE THAT THERE WILL BE THAT STICKER SHOCK WHEN THEY MATURE AND WHEN THEY HAVE ROADS THAT NEED TO BE REBUILT AND BUILDINGS THAT ARE YOU KNOW, THAT NEED TO BE REPLACED IT JUST SEEMS THAT WE'RE AHEAD OF THE CURVE AND JUST EVERYTHING GOES UP EVERY YEAR. IT'S A FACT OF LIFE.  I, I SURELY THERE MUST HAVE TO BE CUTS NEXT YEAR AND THAT'S FINE WITH ME. I JUST HOPE THAT THEY AREN'T AS DEVASTATING AS I SEEM TO CURRENTLY EXPECT THEM TO BE. I THANK YOU.  THANK YOU. MR. COLEMAN .  OTHERS WISHING TO SPEAK THIS IS YOUR CHANCE. LISTEN .  ALL RIGHT, LAST CALL. THERE WE GO.  MR. CLARK, GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. I CAN'T RESIST I'LL KEEP IT SHORT. YOU GUYS CAN KEEP DOING THIS EVERY YEAR. IT'S THE SAME THING.  YOU START OUT WITH A DOUBLE DIGIT INCREASE AND THEN YOU WHITTLE IT DOWN TO WHAT'S RIGHT BELOW 10% TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE WE'RE GETTING A GOOD DEAL AND WE'RE NOT ON THAT LIST OF 15 CITIES YOU HAD ONLY FIVE OF THEM HAVE A HIGHER TAX INCREASE THAN WE DO FIVE OF THEM HAVE 7% OR LOWER. WHAT ARE THEY DOING THAT'S DIFFERENT WHAT WE'RE DOING SO I DON'T KNOW I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE HAVE TO DO AS A AS A COMMUNITY TO BEGIN TO REIN THIS IN . WE HAVE TO PUT A REFERENDUM ON THE BALLOT NEXT YEAR SO THAT ANY TAX INCREASE OVER 5% GOES TO THE VOTERS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE HAVE TO DO BUT YOU'VE HEARD FROM PEOPLE HERE, YOU'VE HEARD FROM OTHER PEOPLE AS WELL. SOMETHING HAS TO GIVE AND PEOPLE ARE HAVING TO WORK MORE TO PAY MORE TAXES FOR SERVICES THAT THEY DON'T USE IN SOMEWHERE.  THE MODELS IT'S BROKEN.  I KNOW YOU'VE GOT A TOUGH JOB AND.  I KNOW THE STAFF HAS PUT A LOT OF WORK INTO THIS. I DON'T DISCOUNT THAT AT ALL.  BUT WE'RE GOING TO SEE THINGS IN WASHINGTON TEN.  THEY'RE GOING TO REVOLUTIONIZE HOW GOVERNMENT IS VIEWED, HOW GOVERNMENT FUNDED AND WE GOT TO START BRINGING SOME OF THAT THINKING TO BLOOMINGTON.  THAT'S ALL I'M ENCOURAGING YOU TO DO SO I DON'T HAVE ANY SPECIFIC THINGS I THINK IT'S MORE OF A PHILOSOPHICAL THING YOU'RE GOING TO SEE CHANGES AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE TO START IMPACTING.  WE THINK OF GOVERNMENT, HOW WE THINK OF FUNDING GOVERNMENT, HOW WE THINK OF SERVICES, HOW WE THINK OF OF BECAUSE IF WE HAD A YOU'D MAKE CUTS IN A AS COUNCILMEMBER RIVA SAID IF WE'RE ALREADY LOOKING AT AN 18% NEXT YEAR WHICH I'M SURE THAT'LL GET WHITTLED DOWN BUT LET'S JUST SAY IT'S 18% WHY NOT LOOK AT THE CUTS NOW AND NOT SAYING CUT TO CUT BUT BECOME MORE EFFICIENT TO BECOME MORE EFFICIENT WHAT WE DO. SO THAT'S THE CHALLENGE I'D PUT BEFORE YOU TRY TO FIND WAYS TO BECOME MORE EFFICIENT AND TO DO MORE WITH LESS I'M SURE YOU LOOK AT THAT AND YOUR SURE YOU THINK ABOUT THAT BUT SOMEWHERE THERE'S A THERE'S SOMETHING WITH THE PARADIGM THAT EVERY YEAR WE HAVE TO KEEP INCREASING THINGS AT EXPONENTIAL RATES. I MEAN YOU PUT AA9 PERCENT INCREASE ON TOP OF A 7% INCREASE ON TOP OF A NINE THAT'S NOT A 25% INCREASE. THAT'S LIKE A 40% INCREASE BECAUSE IT'S EXPONENTIAL. SO I DON'T KNOW I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SOLUTION IS BUT CLEARLY WE HAVE TO START LOOKING AT GOVERNMENT IS WHAT IT MEANS THE COMMUNITY GOVERNMENT DOES A LOT OF GOOD THINGS IN BLOOMINGTON. IT PLAYS A REAL ROLE BUT WE GOT TO START LOOKING AT THE FUNDING MODEL AND SO PEOPLE FEEL THAT THERE'S VALUE. THESE ARE SOME CITIES WHERE THEY PAY A LOT MORE IN PROPERTY TAXES BUT FOR WHATEVER REASON THEY FEEL LIKE THEY'RE GETTING MORE VALUE FOR IT. SO WHAT IS IT ABOUT BLOOMINGTON WHERE WHERE THERE'S NOT THE PERCEPTION OF THE VALUE FOR THE AMOUNT THAT PEOPLE ARE PAYING SO ALL I ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO IT'S THERE'S I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO ABOUT THIS YEAR'S BUDGET. I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO TAKE ANOTHER SWIPE, TRY TO GET IT DOWN SOME MORE.  BUT GOING FORWARD THERE'S THERE'S GOT TO BE A FUNDAMENTAL SHIFT IN THE PARADIGM IN HOW WE THINK ABOUT GOVERNMENT SERVICES, HOW FUNDED AND THE WHOLE THE WHOLE CONCEPT OF HOW DOES EFFICIENCY FIT INTO THAT. WE CAN'T JUST KEEP BACK TO PEOPLE FOR MORE AND MORE AND MORE BECAUSE AT SOME POINT THE PEOPLE REVOLT THEY'LL MOVE THEY'LL PASS A REFERENDUM TO MAKE YOU GUYS GO TO THE VOTERS . YOU GO FOR MORE THAN 5%. THEY'LL START PAYING THE PROPERTY TAXES, THEY'LL DO SOMETHING BUT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO KEEP PAYING HANDING OVER THEIR MONEY NILLY FOR WHAT THEY PERCEIVE AS EXCESSIVE TAX INCREASES.  IT'S IT'S SOME PEOPLE WILL REACH A BREAKING POINT SO ANYWAY I'LL I'LL LEAVE IT WITH THAT THANK YOU.  THANK YOU, MR. CLARK.  OTHERS LAST CALL .  ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL I SEE NO ONE COMING FORWARD.  I WOULD LOOK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 4.2 THIS EVENING. SIR MOVE TO SAY A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER LOWMAN SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING IN ITEM 4.2 NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED THE MOTION CARRY SEVEN ZERO CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING SO COUNCIL. NOW WE'RE TO THE POINT OF RESPONDING TO WHAT WE'VE HEARD RESPONDING TO ANY OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE BUDGET PRESENTATIONS ALTHOUGH WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT CRACKS AT IT OVER THE PAST FEW MONTHS TO TRY AND PUT TOGETHER THIS BUDGET AND TO BRING OUR OPINIONS FORWARD TO TO STAFF AND TO TALK AMONG OURSELVES ABOUT WHERE WE'D LIKE TO GO.  SO I SO NOW COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS, THIS WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE IF YOU'VE GOT IF YOU GOT STATEMENTS TO MAKE I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK THAT YOU'RE BEING CUT OFF WHICH FRANKLY KIND PUZZLES ME THAT YOU MIGHT THINK THAT BECAUSE WE'VE OFFERED THE OPPORTUNITY PLEASE CHIME ON IN . I DON'T THINK THANK YOU, MAYOR. I DON'T IS THE INTERRUPTION FROM MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS STILL YOU HAVE YOU HAVE WITNESS WAS A WITNESS THAT MORE THAN ONCE AND I KNOW I APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE I TRIED  BE POLITE AS POSSIBLE WITH EVERYBODY ELSE IN HERE IF WE'RE ALL PASSIONATE PASSIONATE ABOUT WHAT WE I'M NOT ANY EXCEPTION TO THAT.  THE ONE THING THAT I DO WANT TO MAKE A POINT IS THERE ARE THINGS THAT THE CITY IN MY OPINION THERE ARE THINGS THE CITY DOESN'T REALLY NEED TO HAVE AT THIS POINT.  YOU KNOW, AND AS I SAID THIS MIGHT NOT BE A POPULARITY WITH A GOOD NUMBER OF PEOPLE THERE BECAUSE THIS IS A FACT. I MEAN SOME PEOPLE DO ONE DAY AMENITIES. THE CITY IS OFFERING ALL THESE PEOPLE PEOPLE DON'T CARE ABOUT IT AND IT'S NOT THAT I DON'T CARE AS I HAD STATED IN THE PAST THE COUNCIL YOU MAYOR MR. BOOGIE, YOU HAVE DONE A WONDERFUL JOB IN A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT THE CITY HAS TO ACCOMPLISH. I DON'T TAKE ANY OF THAT.  WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS THAT DUE TO THE FACT THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE STRUGGLING ESPECIALLY IN MY DISTRICT, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE REST BECAUSE I TRY NOT TO GET TOO INVOLVED EVEN THOUGH I DO GET A LOT OF EMAILS FROM PEOPLE COMPLAINING I TRY NOT GET TOO INVOLVED WITH THAT. I RESPOND WHEN I FIND THAT NOBODY'S TO THEM BUT THE REALITY IS THAT IT DOESN'T PERSONALLY AFFECT FINANCIALLY WHAT WE YOU KNOW WHATEVER THE LEVY IS IT'S NOT AFFECTING MY HOME IN ANY WAY WHATSOEVER BUT I KEEP IN MIND I WAS ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE TO REPRESENT THEM AND TO REPRESENT MYSELF. I DO LIKE THE FACT THAT AGAIN I WILL REITERATE THIS THAT AS A COUNCIL, AS A MAYOR, AS A CITY MANAGER YOU HAVE ACCOMPLISHED A LOT OF GREAT THINGS THAT I DO LIKE EVEN THOUGH I DON'T GET TO ENJOY IT I DO LIKE THE FACT THAT THE CITY IS MODERNIZING AND IF YOU GUYS HAVE DONE A LOT BUT TRE ARE TIMES THAT IN SPITE OF ALL OF THAT THERE ARE TIMES THAT WE NEED TO DO CUTS. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I DO I WISH I COULD HAVE A BRAND NEW BOARD COMPARED TO THE ONE I HAVE I K I DON'T WANT TO MAKE THE EXPERIENCE BECAUSE I'M PLANNING ON ALL THE THINGS BUT THAT'S THE MENTALITY THAT I COME WITH. THE CITY CAN DO THE SAME. THERE ARE THINGS THAT YOU KNOW IT'S GOING TO SOUND CONTROVERSIAL BUT I'M GOING TO SAY IT ANYWAY D I THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH TO ME IS NOT IMPORTANT SERIOUSLY THINK WE APPROACH EACH OTHER AS NEIGHBORS AND CREATE THAT FRIENDSHIP AND THAT FAMILIARITY WITH EACH OTHER THAT WE DON'T NEED ALL THIS AND THOSE ARE EXPENSES THAT I 100% OF THE ENTIRE COUNCIL MIGHT DISAGREE WITH ME WITH THIS AND THAT'S FINE. AND LIKE I SAID THIS IS MY OPINION AND.  I THINK A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT ARE BEING SPENT ON THESE THINGS IS JUST TOTALLY UNNECESSARY AND INACCURATE YOU KNOW, MOST COMPANIES ARE NOW PUTTING THESE THINGS AWAY BECAUSE IT'S NOT WORKING FOR THEM.  IT'S CREATING PROBLEMS IN IT AND I NOT GOING TO SAY THAT IS BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO CHOOSE TO HIRE IT. YOU KNOW, PARTICULAR PEOPLE IT'S JUST BECAUSE THERE WAS SERVE WITH ISSUES THAT THEY SHOULDN'T BE CONCERNED WITH.  THE COMPANIES ARE SUPPOSED TO DELIVER A TYPE OF BUSINESS. THEY SHOULD BE CONCERNED WITH SOCIETAL THINGS AND THE CITY TO ME WHAT I INTERPRET IT AS THE CITY HAVING FOR REST AS IS PARKS. YES, ABSOLUTELY. THERE KIDS NEED TO GO PLAY OUTDOORS MAINTENANCE THE ROADS AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT. I DON'T THINK I D I'D AND COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND THE ARTS EVEN IF WANT TO GO ENJOY SURE I GOT PAID FOR IT I DON'T IT TEN TIMES A YEAR MAYBE A COUPLE TWO OR THREE TIMES YOU KNOW THERE ARE THINGS THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE IDENTIFY WITH WHAT THEY SAY BECAUSE TO ME IS AN AMENITY THAT I WOULD LOOK FOR IT EVEN IF I HAD LOOK OUTSIDE THE CITY IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY US TO HAVE HERE AND AGAIN IT'S JUST MY OPINION AND THE OPINION A LOT OF THE RESIDENTS THAT PUT ME HERE AND THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING BECAUSE I DO AGREE WITH THEM FROM THAT POINT OF VIEW. YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT NECESSARY OF COURSE THAT EVERYBODY HAS A DIFFERENT OPINION.  BUT THAT SAID, THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY IT AND THANKS FOR NOT INTERRUPTING ME. I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE PASSION OF WAYS OF LOOKING AT THINGS AND AND AND I RESPECT THAT BUT I ALSO WITH THAT RESPECT WHICH UNLESS IT'S SOMETHING THAT I NORMALLY DON'T SAY I RESPECT SAME KIND OF RESPECT TO BE GIVEN TO ME BECAUSE I HAVE A RIGHT TO HAVE THAT OPINION AS WELL AND THAT THAT SAID KNOW I'LL LISTEN TO ANYBODY I'M PRETTY MUCH THE I'M MORE PRAGMATIC THAN I AM WHAT MOST PEOPLE THINK VERY CONSERVATIVE I'M NOT REALLY IF YOU CAN SELL SOMETHING TO ME AND YOU CONVINCE ME OF IT OUR LINE WITH YOU BUT IF I DON'T SEE THE VALUE OF THAT I'M JUST GOING TO OPPOSE AND YOU KNOW AND I WILL TRY TO STATE MY OPINION THAT SAID THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO TO HAVE TO SAY MY LINE ON THIS. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN BUT BEFORE WE GET TO YOU I REALIZE GOT TO ANSWER WE HEARD A LOT OF OPINIONS. WE HAD ONE SPECIFIC QUESTION FROM MS. ADAMS ABOUT THE FEES AND THE LIQUOR AND LODGING CAN CLARIFY AND TO CLARIFY SOME OF THAT SOME IS.  ADAMS WHERE DID YOU GO THERE YOU ARE IN OUR GENERAL FUND.  THAT SLIDE THAT YOU SAW THAT PIE CHART? YES. THE LIQUOR AND THE LODGING IN ADMISSION TAXES ACCOUNT FOR $11 MILLION A YEAR AND THAT'S ABOUT 10% OF OUR GENERAL FUND REVENUE THE YEAR THE SLIDE THAT WAS UNDERNEATH IT OR THE PIECE THAT WAS UNDERNEATH THAT WAS CALLED PERMITS AND LICENSES. THAT'S NOT THE FEES THAT YOU PAID TO GO TO THE YOU KNOW, TO TO THE AQUATIC CENTER OR TO TO TAKE A CLASS. THOSE PERMITS AND LICENSES ARE THINGS LICENSE LIKE LIQUOR LICENSES OR TOBACCO LICENSES. THE PERMITS THE PERMITS THAT ARE PULLED FOR ELECTRICAL WORK OR BUILDING THAT TYPE OF THING . SO THOSE THOSE ARE THE PERMITS AND LICENSES THAT TALKING ABOUT THAT ACCOUNTS FOR ABOUT 6% OF OUR GENERAL FUND REVENUES.  SO THE GENERAL FEES THAT WE HAVE FOR BEING ABLE TO GO TO THE AQUATIC CENTER OR YOU KNOW ,GET A SEASON LONG MEMBERSHIP AT ONE THAT ISN'T WHAT THAT IS COUNTING SO THAT THAT ISN'T THAT COMMUNITY AND THAT IT WAS ONE PART OF THE COMMUNITY THAT I THINK IS BASICALLY PROGRAM INCOME I THINK THAT'S LIKE PROGRAM INCOME THAT'S ABOUT $2.3 MILLION AND SO THAT'S THAT'S NOT CLOSE TO THE 11 MILLION THAT WE GET FROM THE LODGING TAXES. SOO SO JUST TO CLARIFY FOR YOU SO YEP.  COUNCILMEMBER WOMAN THANK YOU MAYOR AND I I'VE GOT A QUESTION FOR YOU BUT BEFORE I KIND OF DO THAT I JUST WANT TO THANK COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS. YOU KNOW, WHEN I GO IN AND KNOCK ON DOORS THERE ARE FOLKS THAT SHARE YOUR OPINION AND I'M THANKFUL AND GLAD THAT YOU'RE HERE AND SHARING YOUR OPINIONS HERE AT THE STAIRS. I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT YOU SPEAK UP AND AND CERTAINLY THERE HAVE BEEN OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS AND OTHER MAYORS WHO HAVE SHARED YOUR YOUR OPINION THROUGHOUT YEARS . AND SO I'M GLAD THAT YOU ARE USING YOUR VOICE TO TO UP BEFORE THE BOONTON RESIDENTS. THANK YOU.  WITH THAT BEING SAID, MAYOR, YOU KNOW, I LOOK AT THIS THIS BUDGET THAT WE HAVE FOR US TODAY YOU KNOW, I KNOW THOSE LAST LAST YEAR I BELIEVE I DID NOT SUPPORT THE BUDGET BECAUSE I WAS THAT WE WOULD SEE THIS AND WHAT WE'RE KIND OF SEEING SEEING NEXT YEAR BUT THAT'S THE REALITY THE CIRCUMSTANCE WE FIND OURSELVES IN WHEN I LOOK AT THIS BUDGET YEAR TIME MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE PUBLIC SAFETY AND FIRE MAKES UP ROUGHLY ABOUT 65% OF THAT THAT BUDGET AND THEN IF WE INCLUDE A PUBLIC WORKS THAT'S NEARLY 5% AND THEN WE CAN YOU KNOW, WE CAN START TICKING DOWN, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THINGS AND WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE AND I GUESS AS I AS I LOOK AT THIS THIS PARTICULAR BUDGET, YOU KNOW AND I ALSO LOOK AT IN TERMS OF WHAT OUR MISSION STATEMENT IS BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY KIND OF WHERE WE HAVE TO START.  YOU KNOW, MAYOR, I LOOK AT THIS IS WHAT IS OUR MISSION YOU KNOW, A NUMBER OF US KIND OF GATHERED IN THE COMMUNITY AND LOOKED AT THIS THING AND WE SAID OUR OUR MISSION IS TO CULTIVATE AN ENDURING AND REMARKABLE COMMUNITY WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO BE AND KNOW WE HAVE A NUMBER OF STRATEGIC PRIORITIES. YOU KNOW, BOTH YOU A CONNECTED WELCOMING COMMUNITY, A HEALTHY COMMUNITY AND THEN THIS THIRD BULLET HERE IS A COMMUNITY WITH EQUITABLE ECONOMIC GROWTH . NOW BACK IN 2020 WE WERE ABLE TO PROVIDE TAXPAYERS A 4.75% LEVY AND THE FOLLOWING YEAR 2.75 IN THE YEAR AFTER THAT 2.75 WE RECOGNIZED AT THAT POINT IN TIME WE WE TIGHTEN OUR BELTS WE CUT THINGS THAT WE DIDN'T WANT TO CUT.  I KNOW THAT THERE ARE MEMBERS THAT ARE ON THIS BOARD THAT CUT THE DMV AND I VEHEMENTLY OPPOSED TO THAT. BUT WE DID IT BECAUSE WE THE WE HAD TO KIND OF GO AHEAD AND MAKE THAT HAPPEN IN THAT TAKE TAKE PLACE. AND THEN IN 2023 WE HAD A 9.15 AND THAT WAS DIRECTLY RELATED TO THOSE YEARS THAT WERE PREVIOUS TO THAT WE WE HAD HAD WE HAD PROVIDED A MUCH MORE REDUCED LEVY AND SO WE'RE WE'RE PAYING FOR THAT NOW AND WE'RE GOING TO PAY FOR THAT INTO THE FUTURE. AND SO YOU KNOW, AS I KIND OF LOOK AT THIS, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S JUST DISINGENUOUS,  YOU KNOW, FOR FOR ME TO KIND OF JUST IGNORE MAYOR 2020 2021 2022 WHERE WE GOT THOSE THOSE LEVIES DOWN IS IS IS IS FAR AS POSSIBLE AND SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO PAY A HIGHER PRICE FOR GOVERNMENT BECAUSE WE DID THAT WE HEARD THAT FOLKS THEY CAME TO THIS AUDIENCE AND THEY SAID THEY WERE SUFFERING AND STRUGGLING AND THIS COUNCIL AND THE COUNCILS PREVIOUS TO IT CUT THOSE BUDGETS DOWN AND SO I KNOW IT'S PAINFUL BECAUSE I GREW UP IN A SINGLE PARENT FAMILY RIGHT HERE IN BLOOMINGTON AND I'VE SEEN THESE INCREASE AND I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO TRY TO GET BY ON LOW BUDGET. AND WHEN I LOOK AT THIS IT'S WHEN I SEE A 9.18 PROPOSED BUDGET THAT I WANT TO SEE A LITTLE HIGHER ONE BECAUSE I WANT TO SEE A LITTLE BIT LESS NEXT YEAR BUT PEOPLE CANNOT AFFORD THAT. IT'S GOING TO BE TOUGH NEXT YEAR WHEN WE TO GO IN AND CUT IT. BUT I GOT TO TELL YOU, I THINK THAT THIS STAFF HAS DONE EVERYTHING THAT THEY CAN DO TO GET THIS WHERE IT'S AT. AND THE THING IS WE'VE HAD A NUMBER YEARS FROM A CAPITAL STANDPOINT WHERE PAST COUNCILS THAT I WAS A PART OF KICKED THE CAPITAL STUFF DOWN THE ROAD AND DIDN'T PAY FOR IT. AND SO NOW WE'RE IN THIS PARTICULAR POSITION THAT WE FIND OURSELVES TODAY THERE AND SO I RELUCTANTLY DON'T WANT TO SUPPORT THIS BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I'VE GOT A DUTY TO SUPPORT THIS AND I'M GOING TO DO THAT TONIGHT AND I'M GOING TO SUPPORT WHAT WE HAVE AS A AS A GROUP HAVE DECIDED TO DO EVEN THOUGH I KNOW WHAT THAT THAT MEANS.  BUT I KNOW THAT THAT DOESN'T GET ANY EASIER NEXT YEAR BECAUSE THAT NUMBER IS GOING TO BE EVEN HIGHER NEXT YEAR AND WE KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING. MARY TALKED ABOUT IT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN THERE DON'T KNOW HOW THAT'S GOING TO IMPACT US. YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ECONOMY'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE NEXT YEAR.  BUT I DO HAVE FAITH THAT THIS THIS COUNCIL DOES REPRESENT WHAT BLOOMINGTON AS A WHOLE SEES AND.  WE YOU KNOW, THE MAYOR ASKED US MANY A TIMES DO THE THINGS YOU WANTED TO CUT NONE OF US COULD GET FOR TO CUT THOSE ITEMS. SO WE'VE LOOKED AT THOSE THINGS AND I KNOW NEXT WE'RE GOING TO GET THAT OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK HARD AND THOSE CUTS WE'RE GOING TO BE MAKING A LOT OF CUTS IF WE WANT TO GET IT DOWN TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO BE ALL THAT EASY BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M GOING TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY.  I SUPPORT MANY OF THE THINGS THAT ARE IN THIS BUDGET.  THERE'S SOME THINGS THEY DON'T BUT I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS. IT'S 9.18. THAT'S WHAT IT IS. I KNOW IT'S GOING BE PAINFUL AND NEXT YEAR LET ME TELL YOU IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT MORE PAINFUL. YEAH. YEAH. AND COUNCIL MEMBER WANTS OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS TO WASTE OUR TIME COMING HERE TONIGHT. I THINK SO. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER, THANK YOU MAYOR I DO JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT THAT WE'VE BEEN SO I WANT TO SAY THAT I WANT TO START BY EXPRESSING MY SINCERE GRATITUDE TO THE CITY STAFF.  WHEN I STARTED ON COUNCIL IN 2020 WE HAD VERY LITTLE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WHEN WE WERE GOING THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS AND AS YOU GUYS ALL AND WE'VE ALL SEEN FROM THE SLIDES THAT WE'RE SHARING OUR OUR CITY STAFF AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE AT MANY COMMUNITY EVENTS THIS SUMMER TO RESIDENTS LISTENING TO THEM ABOUT WHAT THEIR PRIORITIES ARE AND WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO THEM. WE'VE HAD HOURS AND HOURS CITY COUNCIL DISCUSSION, YOU KNOW AND SO I UNDERSTAND AND I HEAR THE FRUSTRATIONS IN THE CROWD BUT I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM THOUSANDS PEOPLE ACROSS SINCE MAY ABOUT THEIR OPINIONS RELATED THIS BUDGET AND THE BUDGET DECISIONS THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE TONIGHT SO I JUST WANT TO SAY RESPECTFULLY I REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE THAT EACH ONE OF YOU CAME OUT HERE TONIGHT AND WE'RE WILLING TO STAND ON THAT DAIS AND SRE YOUR BECAUSE IT'S NOT FUN. I'VE DONE IT BEFORE BEFORE.  I WAS ON CITY COUNCIL AND I DO TAKE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING HEART BUT I WOULD JUST ASK THAT YOU RESPECT US TOO BECAUSE AGAIN WE HAVE BEEN LISTENING TO RESIDENTS THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE YEAR WE HAD A BIG STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS WHERE WE HEARD FROM RESIDENTS WE HAVE A COED DEPARTMENT THAT ACTUALLY HELPS FACILITATE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT ALL THE TIME AND SO I HEAR THE RUMBLINGS AND THE SHOUTS BUT I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT SO I ALSO AGAIN I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THIS YEAR'S LEVY INCREASE IS SUBSTANTIAL AND I FULLY UNDERSTAND THE STRAIN THAT THAT MIGHT CAUSE. I HAVE YOUNG MY FAMILY IS FEELING THE STRAIN MY HUSBAND WAS OFF FROM HIS JOB LAST YEAR THANKFULLY HE HAS FOUND WORK AGAIN BUT YOU ALL EVERYBODY LISTENING TONIGHT NOT JUST THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE HERE BUT THOSE WHO ARE WATCHING ON TV.  I JUST ASK THAT YOU ALSO REMEMBER THAT WE'RE RESIDENTS TOO.  WE'RE NOT LIKE ONE PERCENTERS UP HERE TRYING TO GET RICH OFF OF BEING ON COUNCIL OUR $11,000 SALARIES OR WHATEVER. SO SO AGAIN I WANT TO JUST EMPHASIZE I REALLY DO AND YOU REALLY DO APPRECIATE THAT THIS IS A SUBSTANTIAL INCREASE AND I DO NOT TAKE IT LIGHTLY. I ALSO I DON'T BELIEVE THAT CITY LEADERSHIP OR STAFF TAKE IT LIGHTLY. YOU KNOW, A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF CITY ACTUALLY LIVE IN BLOOMINGTON SO THEY'RE TAXPAYERS TO AND SO THERE ARE A FEW KEY POINTS THAT I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT.  FIRST WE DO CONTINUE TO HEAR FROM OUR COMMUNITY THAT THEY WANT US TO INVEST IN VITAL CITY SERVICES LIKE POLICE AND FIRE PUBLIC WORKS AND PARKS. COUNCILMEMBER LOMAN MENTIONED A HUGE PART OF THIS LEVY INCREASE GOES TO THOSE DEPARTMENTS AND THEY ARE ESSENTIAL TO MAINTAINING THE QUALITY OF LIFE THAT BLOOMINGTON RESIDENTS HAVE COME TO EXPECT AND THAT THEY DESERVE. THE CHALLENGE THAT WE HAVE UP HERE IS THAT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE 90,000 PLUS RESIDENTS IN BLOOMINGTON HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS ABOUT IMPORTANT.  SOME OF YOU HATE THE DIY WORK. SOME OF YOU DON'T.  SOME OF YOU THINK THAT WE SHOULD NOT HAVE REALLY NICE PARKS. SOME OF YOU WANT REALLY NICE PARKS. SOME OF YOU DON'T THINK WE NEED A HYBRID FIRE DEPARTMENT . SOME OF YOU UNDERSTAND THAT WE DO. SOME OF YOU DON'T WANT A COMMUNITY CENTER. SOME OF YOU DO. AND SO IT'S OUR JOB TO LISTEN TO THE VARIETY OF OPINIONS OUT THERE AND THEN MAKE THE BEST MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS THAT WE CAN AND THEN LIKE EVERYONE ELSE WE'RE FACING COSTS FROM MATERIALS AND SUPPLIES AND EQUIPMENT TO WAGES. A LARGE PART OF OUR BUDGET ARE WAGES BECAUSE WE ARE A SERVICE SECTOR RIGHT?  IT'S PLOWING ROADS ARE MAINTAINING PARKS.  YOU KNOW, OUR OUR GOOD WAGES ARE ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE ACTUALLY ONE OF THE ONLY CITIES WITH A FULLY STAFFED POLICE DEPARTMENT. IT'S JUST FACTS.  AND THEN FINALLY MUCH OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE IS AGING AND REQUIRES INVESTMENT. DELAYING THIS ANY FURTHER WOULD LEAD TO GREATER COSTS DOWN THE ROAD. AND SOME MAY ARGUE WE ARE IN THIS SITUATION BECAUSE PAST LEADERS KICKED THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD. AND SO NOW WE HAVE WATER PIPES THAT WE HAVE TO REPLACE. WE HAVE CITY PARK INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S CRUMBLING. I MEAN WE DON'T A FULL TIME FIRE DEPARTMENT OR EVEN A HYBRID FIRE DEPARTMENT AT THIS POINT. AND SO THESE ARE THINGS THAT UNFORTUNATELY HAVE LANDED IN FRONT OF US TO.  NOW WITH ALL THAT SAID, I DO AGREE THAT WE HAVE TO FOR EFFICIENCIES AND WE HAVE TO FIND COST SAVINGS WHEREVER POSSIBLE. WE HAVE BEEN HAVING CONVERSATIONS AROUND YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT FUND RESERVES. I'M EXCITED TO SEE THE RESULTS FROM THAT AND HOW THAT CAN HELP.  AND I'M PARTICULARLY HOPEFUL AROUND THE PRIORITY BASED BUDGETING PROCESS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT SHIFTING TO AND I'M REALLY HOPING THAT THAT WILL HELP US FIND A MORE SUSTAINABLE AS WE MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE I DO AGREE IT'S NOT IT'S NOT SUSTAINABLE. WE TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM.  AND THEN LASTLY, I DO JUST YOU KNOW, COUNCILMEMBER REEVES, I APPRECIATE YOU MAKING THOSE COMMENTS AND I 100% RESPECT THAT YOU BRING DIFFERENT IDEAS AND PERSPECTIVES. AND MY ONLY ASK IS THAT YOU SHARE THEM BECAUSE THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT YOU HAVE SHARED YOUR IDEAS RELATED TO CUTS AND WE'VE BEEN HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS SINCE MAY AND AGAIN I MEAN THAT RESPECTFULLY I WOULD HAVE LOVED TO HAVE HAD A ROBUST CONVERSATION AROUND COIT AND THE TRADEOFFS OF HAVING THAT DEPARTMENT OR NOT HAVING DEPARTMENT. BUT I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT YOU WERE THINKING ABOUT AND SO I SAY ENCOURAGE YOU TO JUST LIKE REALLY OWN YOUR SEAT ON COUNCIL WHATEVER YOU NEED TO DO TO FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE ALL OF THE NECESSARY. BUT I REALLY I JUST REALLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO SHARE THOSE OPINIONS BECAUSE I WOULD HAVE LOVED TO HAVE HAD THOSE CONVERSATIONS BEFORE THIS MEETING. SO THANK YOU.  COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS.  I APPRECIATE IT. THANKS, COUNCILMEMBER COTTER.  THE RELUCTANCE TO OPEN UP AND SAY WHAT I SAID TODAY IS BECAUSE IN A COUPLE OF OCCASIONS IT WAS A VERY CONFRONTATIONAL RESPONSE THAT I GOT FROM FELLOW MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL. SO IN ORDER TO AVOID THAT I REFRAIN FROM SAYING THAT I WROTE LOT OF NOTES OF WHAT I WANTED TO SAY BUT AT THE SAME TIME I DO BELIEVE THAT THE CITY DOES HAVE THE NEED TO BUTTON, YOU KNOW, TO THE BUDGET.  I STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE COULD CUT THAT I WOULDN'T SAY TOTALLY UNNECESSARY BUT THAT DON'T ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISH WHAT THE CITY IS SUPPOSED TO DO AS A CITY. YOU JUST MENTIONED THAT PROVIDE SERVICES, RIGHT? TO ME THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IS NOT A SERVICE THAT I NEED.  RIGHT. SO AGAIN IT'S JUST MY OPINION. RIGHT. AND OPINION OF A LOT OF THE PEOPLE THAT I REPRESENT. SO THAT SAID, THE REALITY IS, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT COMES TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, THE POLICE I'M 100% WITH EVERY ONE OF YOU THERE. YEAH, WE DO MAINTENANCE CREW AND DEPARTMENT AND THE PARKS AND TO II1 OF THE REASONS I LIVE HERE BECAUSE SOME OF THE PARKS ARE THE BEST. I ALWAYS BOAST ABOUT IT WITH PEOPLE THAT I TALK TO BUT I DO SEE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO CUT MAYBE A COUPLE OF MILLION DOLLARS AND THERE BECAUSE OF THINGS THAT I DEEM NOT ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY BUT I SAID THANK YOU FOR I ENCOURAGING ME TO TALK AND BELIEVE ME YOU PROBABLY WILL HAVE A HARD TIME CHATTING UP IN THE FUTURE.  BUT I HOPE NOT. I HOPE. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT.  COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.  I I GET FRUSTRATED WHEN SO THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE OPINIONS AND THEN ARE THINGS THAT ARE JUST NOT TRUE. AND WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION AS A COMMUNITY BE TRUTHFUL AND IF MY COMMENTS TO COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS FROM TIME TO TIME HAVE FRUSTRATED HIM I RESPECT THAT AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. I KNOW I SHOULD NOT INTERRUPT ANOTHER COUNCIL MEMBER AND I WILL DO MY BEST TO DO A BETTER JOB OF THAT IN THE FUTURE.  BUT BUT SAYING THINGS THAT ARE NOT ACCURATE IS VERY DIFFERENT THAN SAY STATING YOUR OPINION AND ONE'S IS COMPLETELY LEGITIMATE HERE ON COURT. THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT HERE FOR. I AM TOO FRUSTRATED TONIGHT THAT OVER THE LAST SEVEN MONTHS THERE HASN'T BEEN AN OPINION ARTICULATED FROM COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS ABOUT HIS INTEREST IN CUTTING COMMUNITY EDUCATION COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. WOULD HAVE LOVED TO HAVE HEARD THAT THAT THAT'S A VERY VALID THING TO BE LOOKING AT. WE'VE LOOKED AT EVERY SINGLE LINE ITEM IN THIS BUDGET AND THAT THAT EACH OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES THERE IS OPPORTUNITY FOR EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US AT THIS DAIS TO SAY WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR DON'T WHETHER WE WANT IT OR DON'T, WHETHER WE HAVE IT AT THE NUMBER IT'S BEING PROPOSED OR NOT. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US AND I ENCOURAGE EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US TO USE THAT. BUT AT THE END OF SEVEN MONTHS TO COME OUT AND SAY I'VE GOT IDEAS IT IT'S FRUSTRATING. IT'S FRUSTRATING FOR ME BECAUSE IT'S DISRESPECTFUL TO THE WORK THAT WE'VE DONE IN MY OPINIO AND TO AND BY THE WAY IN 2022 AT THE END OF 2022 I TOO WAS AT THE VERY SAME POSITION THAT COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS WAS THE. MY FIRST YEAR ON COUNCIL AND I HAD TO PASS A 9.15% LEVY AFTER YEARS YEARS  OF 2.753.01.8 AT 1% BECAUSE THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION LED BY GENE WINSTEAD WAS NOT WILLING TO INVEST IN THE AS IT WAS AGING. THAT IS JUST A FACT. THERE IS NO THERE'S NO YOU THE DATA IS THE DATA. YOU CANNOT ARGUE WITH THAT BEING TRUE. SO FOR ME TO SIT UP HERE AND HAVE SOMEONE WHO IS NOW AT THE END OF THEIR FIRST YEAR ON COUNCIL MAKING EXCUSE AFTER EXCUSE ABOUT HOW DON'T KNOW ENOUGH HOW THEY CAN'T OR I WON'T I BECAUSE THIS IS VERY HEY PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE THIS IS THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE THIS HAS AND MISSED.  COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS AND I HAVE HAD A VERY WE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP. DO YOU NOT WORRY ABOUT THAT? OKAY. WE DOWN WE SAT DOWN THE NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES IN TAMPA FOR HOURS AND HAD A GREAT LUNCH AND EVERYTHING ELSE. DO NOT WORRY ABOUT THIS RELATIONSHIP BUT I'M NOT THE ONE THAT BROUGHT THIS UP ON COUNCIL TONIGHT AND I WILL RESPOND BECAUSE THE PERSON TO WHOM HE WAS SPEAKING WHEN HE SAID WHAT HE DID WAS ME AND HE WAS UNINTERRUPTED TO DO THAT SO NOW I'LL GET BACK THE POINT OF THE LEVY. OKAY. THIS THIS LEVY I HAVE ASKED THESE QUESTIONS TIME AND TIME AGAIN. 78% OF THE NUMBER ASSOCIATED WITH THIS LEVY IS JUST TO KEEP DOING WHAT WE ALREADY DOING.  AND I THREW OUT THAT ENTIRE ENGAGEMENT PROCESS. OVERWHELMINGLY REGARDLESS OF AGAIN THE DATA THE IN-PERSON MEETINGS, THE BLOOMINGTON, THE LET'S TALK BLOOMINGTON PAGE, THE THE COMMUNITY SURVEY, THE SMALL BUSINESS SURVEY, THE THE PARKS SURVEY THAT LIKE PICK A THING WHERE WE'VE GONE OUT AND ASKED QUESTIONS THE OVERWHELMING RESPONSE WE'VE HAD IS LET'S KEEP DOING THIS. IN FACT EVEN AONDERFUL GENTLEMAN CAME TO OUR LISTENING SESSION AND SPOKE CUTTING.  AND THEN I SAID TO HIM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS WE COULD LOOK AT IS GOLF COURSE IMMEDIATELY HE SAID NO, DON'T TOUCH IT. THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS EXACTLY TO THE COUNCIL MEMBER AT CARTER'S POINT. EVERYBODY WANTS SOMETHING HERE AND OUR JOB IS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING THE BEST JOB WE CAN THE MOST PEOPLE WE CAN FOR THE THE BEST DOLLAR WE CAN. AND BY THE WAY, THAT IS A VERY DIFFERENT MISSIONS STATEMENT AND A VERY DIFFERENT VISION THAN CORPORATIONS WHO HAVE ONE GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE TO AND THAT'S THEIR STAKEHOLDERS THEIR SHAREHOLDERS. I AM A CORPORATE EXECUTIVE. I AM A CORPORATE EXECUTIVE.  I KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT WHEN IT COMES TO BEING IN THE BUSINESS AND I'VE DONE THAT JOB. SO TO DO THIS JOB AND DO THAT JOB IS VERY TWO VERY DIFFERENT LENSES THROUGH WHICH YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE WORLD. THE LAST THING THAT I WILL SAY IS I AM YOU. I LIVE A HOUSE AND MY TAXES ARE GOING UP. I AM ALSO LIKE LOOKING FOR A NEW JOB. I HAVE BEEN IMPACTED BY THE SAME THAT EVERYBODY ELSE IN THIS ROOM HAS BEEN. I FEEL YOUR PAIN.  I DEFINITELY FEEL YOUR PAIN. WE COULD SIT DOWN AND HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. I WOULD LOVE TO GO LEVY THE LEVY WITH YOU GUYS TO GO ASSESSMENT TO ASSESSMENT WITH YOU FOLKS. THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY WITH WHOM I'VE ALREADY DONE THAT. SO AT THE END OF THE DAY WE TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO OPERATE WITH THE WAY THAT THE CITY IS GOING.  AND UNTIL I HEAR A MAJORITY OF PEOPLE A MAJORITY PEOPLE TELL US THAT WE'RE NOT DOING THINGS RIGHT. I'M REALLY RETICENT NOT TO CONTINUE SUPPORT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE. THANKS.  THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER COUNCILMEMBER NELSON.  THANK YOU, MAYOR.  NOT THAT IT'S A COMPETITION BUT MY FIRST BUDGET CYCLE I GOT SWORN IN IN NOVEMBER AND HAD TO APPROVE A BUDGET AND HAD TO LOOK AT A BUDGET AFTER THAT BECAUSE I WAS IN A SPECIAL ELECTION THAT WAS THE LEAST BUDGET CYCLE I HAD. THIS IS PROBABLY THE LEAST FUN ONE THAT I'VE HAD. LAST YEAR I VOTED THE LEVY BECAUSE I FELT THAT WE AS A CITY I PUT RESPONSIBILITY ON MY SHOULDERS AS WELL HAD NOT DONE ENOUGH TO TAKE THE CONCERNS THAT WE'RE HEARING FOLKS TONIGHT THAT WE HEARD FROM THEM LAST YEAR ABOUT THE IMPACTS THAT THESE ARE HAVING AND WHAT I KEEP IN MIND, YOU KNOW, THE THAT I BROUGHT FORTH HER COMMENTS AT A LISTENING SESSION AND YOU KNOW FIXED INCOME SINGLE WOMAN YOU KNOW BETWEEN THIS HENNEPIN COUNTY AND HEALTH INSURANCE AND HOMEOWNER'S INSURANCE AND STUFF LIKE THAT, HER INCREASE IN HER SOCIAL SECURITY WAS NOT ONLY WIPED OUT BUT PROBABLY PLUS SOME THERE AND ABSOLUTELY ,ABSOLUTELY BREAKS MY HEART TO HEAR THOSE STORIES AND AND I BELIEVE IT DOES ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES I BELIEVE THEY HEAR ALL OF THOSE STORIES. WE TALK TO THOSE PEOPLE AND WHAT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH AND WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING THROUGH FOR SIX MONTHS PLUS IS HOW WE BALANCE THE REQUESTS THAT WE'RE GETTING FROM RESIDENTS SIMILAR TO YOURSELVES THAT WANT AMENITIES, THAT WANT PUBLIC SERVICES THAT THAT US TO ADDRESS ISSUES IN OUR COMMUNITY AND THEY'RE FOR THESE THINGS AND RESPECTFULLY LOOKING AT CAN WE AFFORD ALL OF THAT AND THAT'S WHAT HOPE TO BRING TO THE DISCUSSION IN THIS LAST YEAR AND WHAT I FELT WAS LACKING LAST YEAR WAS THAT WE HADN'T HAD SOME OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND  I'M CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO SAY WE HAD THEM TO THE FULL EXTENT OR THEY DIDN'T GO THE ENTIRE DIRECTION THAT I WOULD HAVE HOPED MANY WERE HERE EARLIER TODAY YOU KNOW WHEN I VOTED AGAINST ANOTHER BUDGET. THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT I THINK STILL NEED TO BE BUT WHAT I HAVE SEEN AND I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE FROM CITY STAFF AND FROM MY COLLEAGUES IS THAT WE'RE ON THAT CHALLENGE. IT'S IT'S EXTRAORDINARILY DIFFICULT. BUT WHAT WE'VE DONE THIS YEAR IS WE'VE HAD EARLIER ENGAGEMENT THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS I THINK THERE'S MORE WE CAN DO BECAUSE THERE'S A QUESTION THAT CAME OUT OF THE CROWD ABOUT HEY, IS THERE ANY REASON TO BE HERE AND I'M GOING TO BE BLUNT WITH YOU IT'S TOUGH. WE HAVE A LEGAL OBLIGATION TO PASS A BUDGET, YOU KNOW, AND WE COULD MAYBE MAKE SOME MODIFICATIONS TO IT. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE YOU INVOLVED IN THIS DISCUSSION EARLIER IN THE PROCESS. AND WITH THAT SAID, COREY'S DONE AN EXCELLENT OF REACHING OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND DOING THAT AND ENGAGING PEOPLE IN THAT CONVERSATION EARLIER. I JUST THINK WE SHOULD BE MORE FORMAL ABOUT IT IN THE PROCESS. I THINK THAT'S BROUGHT UP BY MY COLLEAGUES PREVIOUSLY BUT WE'VE SEEN AS AN EXAMPLE THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAD SOMETHING ON ITS WORK PLAN THAT IT WORKED ON THIS YEAR FOR EFFICIENCY WE TALK ABOUT DOING MORE WITH LESS OUR PLANNING COMMISSION EXPLICITLY SET OUT TO DO THAT THIS YEAR AND REFINED SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF THEIR PROCESSES IN ORDER TO MORE EFFICIENTLY SERVE OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY AT A LOWER COST FOR OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY. I HAD A QUESTION FROM SOMEONE WHO SPOKE TONIGHT EARLIER. IT WAS IN A PRIVATE BUT WITH REGARDS TO VEHICLES I MEAN WE HAD A PROGRAM A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WHERE WE WENT THROUGH WHAT CITY STAFF DETERMINED WAS A SHADOW FLEET OF VEHICLES.  AND WE GOT RID OF THOSE VEHICLES AND WE THEM AND YOU KNOW, WE REDUCED THE NUMBER OF CARS THAT WE DON'T NEED THAT ARE JUST SITTING AROUND. THAT SAVES THE COMMUNITY MONEY AS WE GO.  IF YOU'RE HERE IN SOME OF OUR OTHER CONVERSATIONS AS YOU SHOULD SEE WHAT WE WE HAVE A GRANT STAFF PERSON I BELIEVE THE NUMBER WAS 13 MILLION THAT THEY BROUGHT IN TO THIS CITY TO HELP FUND THINGS THROUGH THIS COMMUNITY AND THAT HAS GONE UP SINCE 2019 WHEN I THINK IT WAS ABOUT $5 MILLION SOMETHING I'VE BEEN PUSHING LIKE OKAY IF OUR COMMUNITY IS TO ASK FOR MORE STUFF LET'S BE MORE EFFICIENT ABOUT THE DELIVERY IT.  LET'S FIGURE OUT OTHER WAYS TO PAY FOR IT. YOU KNOW, HONESTLY WE GET FEEDBACK FROM OTHERS ABOUT THINGS FEES. I KNOW THERE ARE SOME SPORTS ORGANIZATION FANS THAT AREN'T SUPER THRILLED ABOUT THE FACT THAT THEY'RE PAYING FEES FOR FIELDS YOU KNOW, BUT WE HAVE SHIFTED POLICY THAT WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO COLLECT MORE FEES AND NOT PUT THAT ON THE BACK OF PROPERTY TAXPAYERS TO SUBSIDIZE.  WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE ARTS CENTER RIGHT OUT HERE ABOUT THAT MY MIND IT'S A FIELD, IT'S A RECREATION. IT'S IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR KIDS TO GET ENGAGED AND LEARN AND MAKE FRIENDS AND EXPAND THEIR HORIZONS JUST LIKE PLAYING FOOTBALL, PLAYING SOFTBALL OR PLAYING LACROSSE OR WHATEVER SPORT YOU DO ALL OF THOSE THINGS. AND SO WE'RE LOOKING AT WAYS TO DO BETTER COST.  COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER WE HAVE A VERY CLEAR GOAL OF RECOVERING ALL OF THE MONEY FROM THAT. THERE'S A REASON WHY I BROUGHT UP THE $500,000 SUBSIDY TO THE WATER PARK THE CURRENT ONE. YOU KNOW WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT PHILOSOPHY IN THE PAST AND WE SPEND NEARLY $50,000 PER WEEK TO HAVE THAT FACILITY OPEN FOR PEOPLE. THE COMMUNITY SUPPORTS IT. THE COMMUNITY LIKES IT SO WE SUPPORT IT AND WE HAVE IT IN OUR BUDGET. THAT'S $500,000 THAT'S IN OUR BUDGET TO DO THAT AND WE'RE I WISH WE'D GOT TO IT THIS YEAR BUT STAFF HAS STARTED A PROJECT WITH REGARDS TO OUR WORKING CAPITAL WHICH I THINK IS AN OPPORTUNITY I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RESULTS OF THAT ARE GOING TO COME OUT TO BE BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT YOU KNOW, ARE WE CAPTURING THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF WORKING CAPITAL?  SHOULD WE CAPTURE LOSS WHICH WILL IMPACT HAVE A LOWER TAX LEVY ALL OF US POTENTIALLY IF THERE'S TOO MUCH IN THOSE POTENTIALLY A REFUND NOT MAKE ANY PROMISES THERE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT STUDY IS GOING TO COME BACK WITH BUT STAFF HAS A REALLY GOOD PLAN TO DO THAT STUDY NEXT YEAR AND I APPRECIATE THAT AND THAT'S NOT THE ONLY STUDY THAT THEY'RE DOING NEXT YEAR IN TERMS OF HOW WE BECOME MORE AND MORE EFFICIENT. AND I THINK IT'S BEEN SAID WE GOT A THIS IS NOT GOOD THIS LEVY NEXT YEAR'S WORSE WE HAVE FIGURE OUT A SOLUTION TO THAT FOR EVERYBODY AND AND I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE A COMBINATION OF ALL SORTS THINGS AND I THINK AS MUCH AS WE WANT TO SAY YES TO AMENITIES YES TO THE SERVICES WE TO AT LEAST BE WILLING TO SAY NO TO SOME OF THAT IN TO SAY YES TO THOSE WHO ARE HURTING ON THE TAX BASIS. SO I WILL SUPPORT THIS BUDGET. I DON'T LIKE THIS BUDGET. I'VE MY QUESTIONS CONCERNS VERY CLEAR OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY I'D JUST LIKE TO THANK STAFF FOR THE WORK THAT THEY HAVE DONE AND FOR LISTENING TO THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED THAT THIS IS REALLY FOR PEOPLE AND WE WERE THEY'RE TAKING THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON THINGS. I WANT TO PUT SOME CONCRETE THINGS IN FRONT YOU THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON TO MAKE THIS MORE PALATABLE FOR YOU.  IT COULD BE IT COULD BE MUCH, MUCH WORSE. AND IF WE DIDN'T HAVE SUCH AN AMAZING STAFF THAT IS REALLY TAKING IT SERIOUSLY. SO THANK YOU.  LET'S REMEMBER WHAT THE MAYOR I'VE SAID THIS THE WHOLE TIME WE'VE HAD THESE BUDGET CONVERSATIONS AND IT'S THE FACT THAT THESE ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT CONVERSATIONS WE HAVE OVER YEAR AND THEY ARE THE MOST DIFFICULT CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAVE YEAR.  EVERY SINGLE COMMENT QUESTION CONCERN THAT WE'VE HEARD HERE TONIGHT WE'VE LITERALLY TALKED ABOUT IN THE PAST DURING THE LAST SEVEN MONTHS IN ADDITION THE HUNDREDS OF OTHER QUESTIONS THAT CAME TO US FROM OTHER RESIDENTS AND I'VE HAD DOZENS OF COFFEE CHATS WITH PEOPLE SAT DOWN AT COFFEE JUST TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON WITH YOU AND WHAT CAN I.  I'VE HAD HUNDREDS OF PHONE CALLS. WE'VE GOT A THOUSAND EMAILS THAT WE'VE GONE BACK TALKING ABOUT THIS VERY THING AND THAT'S THE CHALLENGE. WE'VE HEARD A LOT FROM WHO AREN'T HAPPY WITH THE 9.18% WHO THINK A LOT OF US EXPRESSED THAT THAT SOMETHING THAT'S VERY DIFFICULT AND WE'VE ASKED OUR STAFF TO BRING IT DOWN. WE'VE ALSO HAVEN'T HEARD FROM PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SEE AN INVESTMENT IN BLOOMINGTON. I'VE BEEN LIVE IN BLOOMINGTON FOR NINE YEARS NOW SINCE 2015 AND FROM WHAT I CAN SEE AND THE QUOTE WAYNE GRETZKY HE ALWAYS SAYS I SKATE TO WHERE THE PUCK IS GOING TO BE NOT WHERE IT WAS.  AND FOR THE PAST 30 YEARS WE HAVE CONTINUED TO SKATE WHERE THE PUCK WAS NOT WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE AND FOR 30 YEARS AND BLOOMINGTON IS GREAT AND I LOVE BLOOMINGTON AND WHEN WE BUILD THINGS WE BUILD THINGS REALLY WELL AND THEY LAST FOR 40, 50, 60 YEARS AND GUESS WHAT WE'RE AT 5060 YEARS RIGHT NOW AND THAT MEANS WE HAVE INVEST IN IT.  THAT MEANS THAT WE HAVE TO BALANCE NOT ONLY MAKING SURE THAT SENIORS WHO ARE ON FIXED INCOME CAN CONTINUE TO LIVE IN THEIR HOMES. MY LIFE'S GRANDMOTHER 93, FINALLY JUST HAD TO MOVE OUT OF HER HOME BECAUSE.  SHE NEEDED MORE HELP BUT SHE WAS ON MY MIND EVERY SINGLE DAY AS I'M THINKING HOW CAN I ENSURE THAT GRANDMA CAN STAY IN HER HOUSE?  BUT THEN I LOOK AT THE FAMILIES THAT I'M AROUND NOW I HAVE THREE KIDS SIX, FOUR AND TWO AND THERE ARE FAMILIES COMING TO ME SAYING WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO DO WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO THAT WE'RE MOVING DOWN TO WE'RE MOVING TO FARMINGTON BECAUSE YOU JUST DON'T HAVE IT NOW AND WE CAN'T AFFORD TO WAIT FOR YOU TO DO THIS.  SO WE'RE STUCK IN A HARD ROCK AND A HARD PLACE. HOW CAN WE BALANCE TO ENSURE THAT PEOPLE CAN CONTINUE TO LIVE HERE IN BLOOMINGTON? HOW CAN WE MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE CAN COME TO BLOOMINGTON THIS TRUE CONTINUES TO AGE. WHAT IF WE DON'T HAVE FAMILIES COMING IN TO SUPPORT THAT?  WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN? THE BURDEN IS GOING TO FALL AND SENIORS AND THAT'S THE LAST THING I WANT TO DO IS TO CONTINUE TO PUT PRESSURE ON SENIORS AND NOT BE ABLE TO ATTRACT YOUNGER FAMILIES INTO BLOOMINGTON TO HELP BALANCE OUT BECAUSE OUR FUTURE IN BLOOMINGTON DEPENDS ON YOUNG FAMILIES WHO COME TO BLOOMINGTON BECAUSE WE HAVE MADE A CONSCIOUS DECISION TO NOT ONLY ENSURE AFFORDABILITY HERE IN BLOOMINGTON BUT CONTINUE TO INVEST IN THINGS THAT THEY HAVE TOLD US ARE IMPORTANT THE POLICE, FIRE, PUBLIC WORKS, PARKS AND REC ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE VITAL TO THE THINGS THAT FAMILIES LOOK FOR WHEN THEY COME TO BLOOMINGTON AND EVERY DECISION OR INDECISION THAT WE MAKE UP HERE HAS A CONSEQUENCE.  YOU'RE SEEING THAT WORK OUT RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW A CITY OF THIS SIZE WHO CAME TO PEAK SIZE IN THE AND EIGHTIES SHORT OF 100% HAD A FULL TIME FIRE DEPARTMENT BACK IN THE EIGHTIES BACK IN THE NINETIES . BUT WE'RE NOT IF YOU LOOK AT BLOOMINGTON WE ARE ESSENTIALLY AN ISLAND.  WE CAN'T DEPEND ON OUR NEIGHBORS TO GET TO US LIKE WE DO LIKE EAGAN DOES. WE'RE APPLE VALLEY BECAUSE EVERY YOU GO TO GET OUT OF BLOOMINGTON YOU HAVE TO CROSS A BRIDGE. SO WE DEPEND OURSELVES AND OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT NEEDS TO BE UP TO TO SUPPORT RESIDENTS WHO NEED THEIR HELP AND IT IS NOT EASY AND I WANT AND I AND I'M GLAD WE HAVE THE STUFF WE DO BECAUSE IF WE DIDN'T I THINK WE'D BE LOOKING AT SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER LEVY RATE . BUT I THINK AS EVERYONE HAS SAID NEXT YEAR IS GOING TO BE A BIG CHALLENGE.  IT'S NOT GOING TO BE JUST NEXT YEAR NEXT YEAR OUR FOCUS BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE CONTINUED FOR THE NEXT FOUR OR FIVE YEARS BECAUSE WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO INVEST IN OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THAT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO DRIVE A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF OUR LEVY.  AND SO THIS IS IN THE CONVERSATION THAT ANSWER TODAY AND THAT'S A GUARANTEE THAT I'LL MAKE TO EVERYONE. HERE IS OUR BUDGET CONVERSATIONS DON'T JUST START TODAY WE'LL CONTINUE TO HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS AS THE NEW YEAR COMES BECAUSE WE KNOW HOW VITALLY IMPORTANT IT IS TO ENSURE THAT PEOPLE CAN LIVE HERE BUT ALSO TO ENSURE THAT PEOPLE WANT TO BE HERE. THANK YOU.  WELL, THANK YOU, COUNSEL FOR YOUR INPUT AND YOUR DISCUSSIONS ON THIS AND YOUR WORK ON THIS OVER THE PAST SIX MONTHS. THANKS TO OUR STAFF FOR THE WORK THAT THEY'VE PUT INTO THIS BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S NO SMALL TASK.  IT COMES AROUND EVERY YEAR. IT'S THE DARNDEST THING. YOU HAVE TO DO IT EVERY YEAR AND YOU DO A GREAT JOB SO THANK YOU AND THANKS TO ALL THE RESIDENTS WHO WE'VE HEARD FROM TONIGHT AND AS COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO HAVE SAID WHO WE HEARD FROM FOR THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS ABOUT THIS AND WE HAVE HEARD WE HEARD YOU TONIGHT BUT WE'VE HEARD PEOPLE THROUGHOUT THE SUMMER AND INTO THE FALL AS COUNCILMEMBER CARTER SAID, EVERYBODY WANTS SOMETHING.  COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO BROUGHT IT UP. I MEAN WE TALK ABOUT WE TALK ABOUT MAKING CUTS BUT NOT ONE. WE MADE A SIGNIFICANT CUT AT THE HEIGHT OF THE PANDEMIC AND WE CLOSED THE DMV BUT NOT THE DMV.  YOU CAN'T CLOSE THE DMV. WE WE HAVE THINK WE HAVE TO BALANCE THE WANTS AND THE NEEDS OF THIS COMMUNITY.  AND I FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT THIS THIS BUDGET THIS LEVY THIS THIS WORK THAT WE'VE DONE REFLECTS THE VALUES PRIORITIES WHAT THIS COMMUNITY IS ASKING US ALL US TO DO. AND I HAVE SAID BEFORE I MEAN AND IT WAS SAID EARLIER YOU'RE CITY GOVERNMENTS WE'RE IN THE SERVICE INDUSTRY.  WE DON'T MAKE WIDGETS. WE PROVIDE SERVICES AND WITH THAT COMES A LOT OF CHALLENGES . IT'S NOT LIKE YOU CAN CUT THE COST OF PRODUCTION OR OR BUY CHEAPER INPUTS FROM ANOTHER YOU KNOW, ANOTHER COUNTRY.  WE HAVE IT'S THE PEOPLE WHO DELIVER THE SERVICES IS WHAT WE'RE ALL PAYING FOR IN THIS BUDGET IN AN EVERY BUDGET AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THOSE SERVICES AND THIS WAS INTIMATED EARLIER AS WELL SO POLICE, FIRE, PUBLIC WORKS, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT THAT'S THE BUSINESS AND PARKS AND RECREATION THAT MAKES UP ABOUT 83% OF OUR BUDGET. THOSE ARE THE NUTS AND BOLTS WORK OF CITY GOVERNMENT IS THERE NIPPING WE COULD DO AROUND THE EDGES FOR PROGRAMS PEOPLE MIGHT NOT AGREE WITH OR AN PROGRAM THAT BY THE WAY CONTRIBUTES ABOUT A $16 MILLION INPUT TO THE LOCAL ECONOMY EVERY.  ALL THOSE THINGS I MEAN WE COULD TALK ABOUT THOSE BUT THOSE FIVE THINGS THAT I MENTIONED POLICE FIRE PUBLIC WORKS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PUBLIC WORKS ARE THE LION'S SHARE OF THIS BUDGET AND BUDGET BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT CITIES DO AND DO THE THINGS THAT THOSE FOLKS DO. IT TAKES PEOPLE AND PEOPLE COST AND BECAUSE YOU NEED SOMEBODY TO DRIVE THAT FIRE TRUCK YOU NEED SOMEBODY TO DRIVE THE SNOWPLOW TO BE BEHIND THE COUNTER WHEN YOU NEED A LICENSE. THOSE ARE THE FOLKS THAT THIS BUDGET IS PAYING FOR AND BLOOMINGTON RESIDENTS HAVE MADE IT CLEAR FOR DECADES THAT THEY INSIST ON THE HIGHEST QUALITY THOSE PEOPLE AND THAT'S HOW IT SHOULD BE. I MEAN WE CAN AGREE ON THAT IF WE DISAGREE WITH THAT LET US KNOW IF YOU DON'T WANT US TO PLOW OR ONLY PLOW WHEN IT HITS SIX INCHES LET US KNOW BECAUSE THAT CHANGES THE THAT CHANGES EVERYTHING. BUT TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS AND THE DEMANDS AND THE VALUES AND THE PRIORITIES THAT WE HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY REQUIRES TO DO THESE THINGS THAT WE ARE DOING RIGHT NOW TO PAY THOSE OUTSTATE EXCUSE ME TO PAY THOSE OUTSTANDING EMPLOYEES WHO ARE DOING OUTSTANDING WORK EVERY YEAR ABOUT 75% OF OUR BUDGET GOES TO PERSONNEL COSTS SO THREE QUARTERS OF THE BUDGET GOES TO PAY THE PEOPLE THAT DO THE WORK. AGAIN, IT'S NOT IT'S IT'S YOU CAN COME UP WITH SUPERFLUOUS PROGRAMS IN YOUR MIND TALK ABOUT ALL THIS BUT THREE QUARTERS OF THE MONEY THAT IS IN GENERAL FUND GOES TO PAY THE PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY DO THE WORK AND YOU WON'T BE SURPRISED TO HEAR THAT THE PUBLIC SECTOR IS A VERY COMPETITIVE RIGHT NOW. SO THE WAGES THAT WE PAY TO KEEP THE PEOPLE MAKE SURE THAT THEY DON'T GO TO PLYMOUTH OR LAKEFIELD OR FARMINGTON OR ANYWHERE ELSE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE THAT'S WHAT WE'VE HEARD FROM RESIDENTS. THEY EXPECT THIS TO BE THE PLACE THAT PROVIDES OUTSTANDING SERVICES AND I THINK WE DO THAT AND YOU KNOW, ON THE TOPIC OF THE SERVICES THAT THIS COMMUNITY HAS COME TO EXPECT POLICE AND FIRE MAKE UP A LION'S OF THIS BUDGET INCREASE. I MEAN NOT JUST THE BUDGET ITSELF BUT THE BUDGET INCREASE BECAUSE WE HAVE HEARD CONSTANTLY THAT PUBLIC SAFETY THE NUMBER ONE THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY OF THIS COMMUNITY AND WE HAVE ONE OF THE BEST IF NOT THE BEST POLICE IN THE STATE OF MINNESOTA THAT TAKES PEOPLE THAT TAKES TRAINING THAT TAKES EQUIPMENT, THAT COSTS MONEY. WE'RE BUILDING A HYBRID FIRE DEPARTMENT, FOLKS. YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW HOW MANY FIRE TRUCKS WOULD ROLL WITH ONE FIREFIGHTER ON THEM BEFORE WHEN WE HAD THE FULL VOLUNTEER PAID ON CALL ONE FIREFIGHTER ON TRUCKS IN THE CITY OF 91,000.  THAT IS COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE AND THAT IS A TRAGEDY TO HAPPEN AND SO WE'VE TAKEN THE ACTION TO CORRECT THAT WE'RE GOING TO A FULL TIME FIRE DEPARTMENT AND WE'RE BUILDING THE FIREHOUSES THAT ARE THAT CAN HOUSE THOSE PEOPLE, THOSE FULL TIME FIREFIGHTERS.  THAT IS A COMMUNITY REQUIREMENT OF US. WE WERE TOLD THAT AND THAT THAT'S THE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING TOWARD. AND AGAIN, REGARDLESS OF THE BUDGET ITSELF, THIS BUDGET INCREASE 55 60% POLICE AND FIRE IN THIS BUDGET INCREASE 65 OF THIS BUDGET INCREASE SPECIFICALLY TO PUBLIC SAFETY POLICE AND FIRE. SO I MEAN IF YOU COME AT US AND SAY WE GOT A CUT, I GUARANTEE SOME OF THOSE CUTS WOULD HAVE TO BE OUT OF POLICE AND FIRE. I IT AND YES AND LAST YEAR TOO BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT WE'RE WORKING FROM A DEFICIT A SIGNIFICANT DEFICIT IN TERMS OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT AND WE'RE TRYING TO CATCH UP AND MAKE SURE THAT WE PROVIDE SAFETY THAT PEOPLE INSIST ON THE.  BUDGET IS DESIGNED TO REFLECT THE VALUES AND THE PRIORITIES OF THIS COMMUNITY.  IT REALLY IS AND IT'S WHAT WE'VE HEARD FROM PEOPLE WE HEARD TONIGHT THAT WE NEED TO TAKE A CLOSE LOOK AND WE WILL ABSOLUTELY DO THAT. I WILL SAY MESSAGE RECEIVED THE 18% THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NEXT YEAR. I MEAN WE ONLY KNOW THAT BECAUSE WE'RE THE CITY IS SMART ENOUGH TO DO A TWO YEAR BUDGET, A ROLLING TWO YEAR BUDGET SO WE KNOW WHAT WE DO THIS YEAR, HOW IT IMPACTS US NEXT YEAR THERE CITIES THAT DON'T DO THAT THEY'LL JUST LOOK YEAR TO YEAR THINK MINNEAPOLIS THEY WORK YEAR TO YEAR WE DO A TWO YEAR BUDGET ROLLING TO SEE WHAT THE WORK THAT WE DO THIS YEAR HOW IT IMPACTS NEXT AND THAT 18% IS NOT THE PROPOSAL RIGHT NOW THAT IS THE STARTING POINT THAT IS THE NUMBER THAT STAFF HAS THROWN OUT BASED ON WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT YEAR AND I CAN GUARANTEE YOU IT'S NOT GOING TO BE 18% I CAN GUARANTEE YOU THAT AND ESPECIALLY BASED ON THE CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD TONIGHT, BASED ON REALITIES THAT ARE COMING FROM WASHINGTON, THE REALITIES THAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE AT THE STATE LEVEL AND, THE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM ALL OF YOU AND CONTINUE TO HEAR FROM YOU. WE WILL WORK WITH THAT AND WE WILL WORK TOWARD BUDGET THAT NEXT YEAR. THAT BUDGET WILL REFLECT THE VALUES IN COMMUNITY, THE VALUES AND THE PRIORITIES OF THIS COMMUNITY AS WELL AS THE OF THIS COMMUNITY OR OUR YOU KNOW, STOP IMPROVING PARKS OR DON'T HAVE A FULL TIME FIRE DEPARTMENT IF WE HEAR FROM A VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE THAT'S THE VALUES THAT THIS COMMUNITY WE HAVEN'T HEARD THAT YET. WE HAVE HEARD FROM PEOPLE THEY WANT OUTSTANDING PARKS. THEY WANT OUTSTANDING PUBLIC SAFETY. THEY WANT THE STREETS PLOWED WHEN THERE'S A TWO OR THREE INCH SNOWFALL. WE'VE HEARD THAT AND THAT'S THE WORK THAT THE CITY DOES SO I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S INPUT TONIGHT. I REALLY SINCERELY DO AND AS EVERYONE UP HERE HAS SAID WE ARE ALL RESIDENTS AS WE'RE ALL PROPERTY TAXPAYERS AS WELL. WE'RE FEELING IT WELL. CITY MANAGER THE STAFF THAT WE HAVE GETS THE WORK DONE THAT WE WERE ASKED TO GET DONE AND IF YOU THINK YOU CAN JUST TURN SOMEBODY ON TURN ON A DEPARTMENT AND THEM RUN, YOU NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT A LARGE ORGANIZATION LOOKS LIKE.  SO SO I APPRECIATE YOUR INPUT I REALLY DO COUNCIL I APPRECIATE YOUR INPUT I AGREE WE HAVE SIGNIFICANT WORK TO DO IN THE NEXT 12 MONTHS. BY THIS TIME NEXT YEAR WE HAVE SIGNIFICANT WORK  DO AND IT'S GOING TO BE A CHALLENGE AS WE GO THROUGH A LEADERSHIP TRANSITION AS WE GO AS WE LOOK AT ALL OF THE EXTERNALS THAT WE CAN'T CONTROL IT'S GOING TO BE A CHALLENGE BUT WE HAVE TO BE UP TO THAT CHALLENGE TO PUT TOGETHER A BUDGET THAT REFLECTS THE VALUES AND THE PRIORITIES OF THIS COMMUNITY COUNCIL.  ANYTHING ADDITIONAL TO ADD OR DO WE WANT TO DO WE WANT TO CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION FOR A I THINK IT'S TIME THAT WE GET THIS MOTION OUT AND I SURE THAT IF THERE'S ANY MORE COMMENTS ON IT BUT I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO ADOPT RESOLUTION ESTABLISHING THE FINAL TAX LEVY FOR THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON FOR THE YEAR OF 2025.  WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER LOGAN, A SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION ESTABLISHING FINAL TAX LEVIES FOR THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON THE YEAR 2025. ANY FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS? I'LL JUST SAY VERY THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS AND ALSO MY FELLOW COLLEAGUES AND I APPRECIATE YOUR YOUR COMMENTS. THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE COUNCILMEMBER CARTER THANK YOU, MAYOR AND SORRY I HAVE BEEN THINKING THIS AND I JUST REALLY WANTED TO SAY IT BEFORE WE CLOSED THIS AGENDA ITEM.  WE HAVE SUCH AMAZING STAFF THAT THEY ARE WILLING TO SIT DOWN WITH ANYBODY AND GO THROUGH THE BUDGET AND THEY'VE DONE IT I KNOW THEY'VE DONE IT WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE ROOM TONIGHT LINE BY LINE AND THEY CAN TELL YOU OKAY SO IF SO THIS IS HOW MUCH THIS COSTS THAT EQUALS 0.2% OF A LEVY, THE PERCENTAGE OF AN INCREASE LIKE I REMEMBER ONE TIME I ASKED HIM A QUESTION LIKE IF WE CUT THIS CERTAIN THING WHICH IS LIKE SEVERAL PEOPLE WHAT WOULD THAT DO TO THE LEVY ? AND THEY WERE LIKE IT'S LIKE A 0.3%. I MEAN IT WAS VERY, VERY SMALL RIGHT. AND SO I JUST ENCOURAGE YOU IF YOU ARE SOMEBODY IN THE COMMUNITY AND YOU REALLY WANT TO BETTER UNDERSTAND OR LEAST KIND OF BETTER UNDERSTAND BECAUSE IT IS VERY COMPLEX THE CITY BUDGET OUR STAFF ARE ALWAYS WILLING TO TO MEET WITH PEOPLE AND GO THROUGH THOSE.  THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER LOGAN, THE SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO TO ADOPT RESOLUTION ESTABLISHING FINAL TAX LEVIES FOR THE CITY FOR BLOOMINGTON FOR THE YEAR 2025. NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED THE MOTION CARRIES SIX ONE WITH COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS IN OPPOSITION LET'S REMEMBER LEMON MERRILL MOVED TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION ADOPTING THE FINAL 2025 GENERAL FUND BUDGET.  THIS MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION ADOPTING THE FINAL 2025 GENERAL FUND BUDGET. ANY FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS TOPIC DURING THE HEARING? NONE ALL THOSE IN FAVORITE PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION 361 WITH COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS IN OPPOSITION THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH COUNCIL AGAIN THANKS TO THE STAFF FOR YOUR WORK THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR CONVERSATION AS WELL GREATLY APPRECIATE IT COUNCIL WE ARE AT 923. I WANT TO SAY THAT TO BOTH THE COUNCIL AND THE STAFF BECAUSE HAVE A FEW THINGS TO GET THROUGH YET THIS EVENING BREVITY AND ALACRITY MIGHT BE THE TWO WORDS THAT WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT RIGHT NOW ITEM 4.3 IN OUR AGENDA IS THE 2025 THROUGH 2030 FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN APPROVAL TO KIND OF MAKE SURE THEY'RE GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME GOOD EVENING COUNCIL AND MAYOR ON THE CIP FOR 2025 THROUGH 2034 THIS ITEM HAS BEEN BEFORE THE COUNCIL ONLY THROUGH THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM DOCUMENT IS BASED OFF OF OUR CITY MISSION TO BE A CONNECTING AND WELCOMING COMMUNITY COMMUNITY HEALTH COMMUNITY AND A COMMUNITY WITH ECONOMIC GROWTH IN IT SO ALL THE PIECES AND THERE'S ABOUT 100 PROJECTS WITHIN THIS DOCUMENT THAT MEET ALL OF THE MISSION OF THE CITY THIS EVENING WE'LL GO THROUGH A LITTLE MORE ON THE PURPOSE AND TIMELINES SOME UPDATES AND HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE PURPOSE AND TIMELINE. LET'S I THINK IT'S HERE WE GO YOU'VE SEEN THE SLIDE ANNUALLY A COUPLE OF TIMES A YEAR. SO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN IS A PLANNING TOOL.  BY HAVING A PROJECT IN HERE IT DOES NOT GUARANTEE THAT THE PROJECT BE COMMITTED COMPLETED AT ALL UNTIL IT BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL IF IT'S OVER A CERTAIN DOLLAR AMOUNT SO IS A LONG TERM PLANNING DOCUMENT THE PROJECTS THAT ARE IN HERE WITH A DETAILED DESCRIPTION WE HAVE FIVE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES LIKE TRANSPORTATION SO WE HAVE A SEVEN DIGIT CODE SO THE FIRST TWO IS THE TYPE OF PROJECT. THE NEXT IS A YEAR IN WHICH THE PROJECT CAME IN THERE IN THE LAST THREE DIGITS ARE THE SEQUENTIAL OF THAT YEAR'S NUMBER OF PROJECTS SO THERE'S A NUMBER OF PROJECTS IN THERE THAT HAVE BEEN IN THERE FOR MANY YEARS. WE DO HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SUMMARY AT THE BEGINNING OF THE DOCUMENT THAT THIS PROJECTS OVER $1,000,000 AND SORRY I SWALLOWED RUN NOPE I'M GOING I'LL JUST KEEP MOVING THROUGH AGAIN. THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THE PROJECTS JUST TOUGH.  WE KEEP MOVING THROUGH THESE PROJECTS AND THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT THE PROJECTS WILL BE DONE UNLESS ALL THE SOURCES AND USES FOR THE PROJECT ARE BEFORE THE COUNCIL BEFORE MOVE THROUGH AND WE'LL FOLLOW THE NORMAL PROCUREMENT RULES OF WHERE THE STATE STATUTES AT AN APPROVAL LEVEL YOU SO THE CITY COUNCIL VIEWED THE DRAFT DOCUMENT IN OCTOBER THE PLANNING MET IN NOVEMBER AND WENT THROUGH THE DOCUMENT TO MAKE SURE ALL OF THE ITEMS WITHIN THEIR MEET THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.  THANK YOU CHIEF AND THEN THE ITEMS BEFORE THE TONIGHT FOR A PUBLIC HEARING ON UPDATES. WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF UPDATES IN THE DOCUMENT SINCE OCTOBER WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE REGIONAL PARK PIECE WE MOVED ALL OF THE BUSH BEACH OR BUSH LAKE ITEMS OUT OF THE CFP . WE ALSO ADJUSTED ALL OF THE PARK DEVELOPMENT ITEMS.  WE MOVE THOSE TWO YEARS OUT AND THEN ON THE DRAFT DWAN GOLF COURSE THAT WAS SCHEDULED FOR 2026 IS NOW SCHEDULED FOR 2028.  THE ANIMAL SHELTER PROCESS IS UNDERWAY IT WAS IN THAT THAT'S THE IRP FOR 2025 AT 1,000,007 WE'VE MOVED THAT TO 2028 AT 5 MILLION. AGAIN THESE NUMBERS CHANGE IT'S JUST ALACEHOLDER. SO AS WE KNOW MORE ON THE PROJECT WE WILL UPDATE THE CSP FOR NEXT YEAR THE COMMUNITY HEALTH WELLNESS CENTER PARKING RAMP WE MOVED FROM 20 MILLION DOWN TO 10 MILLION AND THEN WE'VE ADDED THE NORTH CENTRAL SANITARY SEWER DIVISIONS AND JUST TO GIVE YOU A PICTURE OF WHERE ALL THE LIE IN THE FIVE CATEGORIES SURFACE TRANSPORTATION AT 250 MILLION AND AGAIN JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE IS THE CITY FACILITIES 285 MILLION OF THAT 285,000,120 MILLION OF THAT IS THE COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTER AND THE NINE MILE DEVELOPMENTS THERE.  SO YOU SEE PARK DEVELOPMENTS, SEWER AND WATER, THE SOUTH LOOP PIECE WILL INCREASE AS WE'RE LOOKING MORE AT THE SOUTH LOOP AND AUTHORITY NEXT YEAR WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE AN ENTRY AREA TO WHERE THEY'RE LISTING SOME OF THEIR PROJECT IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE CAPITAL PROJECTS. SO WE'RE WORKING WITH IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO DEVELOP THAT AREA A LITTLE BIT MORE SO THAT WE'RE REFLECTING PIECES THERE AND AS THE COUNCIL HAS SEEN IN THIS SLIDE IN THE PAST AS WE APPROVE THIS DOCUMENT, IT'S GIVING US A GREEN LIGHT TO START LOOKING AT PIECES OF THIS ENGAGE IN CONSULTANTS OR PREPARING STUDIES. SOMETIMES WE'RE DOING A LOT MORE ENGAGEMENT BEFORE WE EVEN DO THE BID PACKAGE. SO THESE ARE JUST CATEGORIES THAT WE WILL WORK THROUGH AS WE BRING IT TO COUNCIL AND MOVE IT FORWARD AND THAT'S A QUICK PRESENTATION. SO THERE'S THERE'S QUESTIONS HERE WHY THE WASTE?  THANK YOU VERY MUCH COUNCIL WE'VE WE'VE GONE THROUGH THIS A NUMBER OF TIMES AND I THINK WE IF YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS I'D LOVE TO HEAR THEM NOW OTHERWISE WE'LL GET TO THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS BUT QUESTIONS SPECIFIC TO PRESENTATION I DO IS THERE DO YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE THANK MR. MAYOR DO YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE THE ACTUAL LIST AGAIN I KNOW I KNOW WE HAD IT IN A PREVIOUS SLIDE. I JUST WANTED TO PUT IT UP ONE MORE TIME NOT THE THE ROLLOUT BUT THAT THE 2526 THE ACTUAL LIST OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE IN THERE I WAS LOOKING ONLINE FOR IT BUT I DON'T THINK THAT WE'VE IT YET ONLINE FOR THIS. RIGHT. SO I WONDERED WHERE COULD FIND IT VERY QUICKLY I'M JUST TRYING TO JOG MY MEMORY THAT'S ALL MAYOR AND COUNCIL I DON'T HAVE THE REPRESENTATION OF AN EFFORT TO ENTER THAT SO IF I CAN IS IT WAS WAS IT THE OCTOBER MEETING I CAN LOOK IN THE MINUTES IF THAT'S THE CASE ARE WE LOOKING ARE WE LOOKING FOR THE WHOLE DOCUMENT OR ARE WE LOOKING JUST FOR THE PRESENTATION?  I WAS JUST LOOKING FOR THE LIST OF THE THINGS THAT ARE COMING UP IN 25 AND 26. SO IF THAT'S IN IF I HAVE TO LOOK AT THE WHOLE DOCUMENT TO GET THAT THAT'S FINE. MAYOR AND COUNCIL ARE LOOKING FOR THE DEBT ITEMS OR WE LITERALLY THE LIST OF PROJECTS IS IN THE CITY WE ARE PASSING THE CITY I WOULD JUST TO SEE THE ACTUAL CITY. THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING AT I THINK COUNCILMEMBER WE YEAH WE DID REVIEW IN OCTOBER YES WE'D HAVE TO REOPEN THAT THAT'S FINE. IS IT THE 14TH IS IT DO WE KNOW THE REMEMBER THE DATE OF THE MEETING. I'M SORRY IF WE COULD USE CHAT GPT TO GET TO OUR MEETING NOTES QUICKLY I WOULD BE HAPPY TO DO THAT. I KNOW HOW TO DO THAT AT HOME I DO NOT KNOW HOW TO DO THAT ON MY TABLET I APOLOGIZE I HONESTLY DON'T OKAY IT'S NOT RELEVANT TO THE GO AHEAD AND DO THE PUBLIC HEARING. I'LL TRY TO KEEP SNOOPING. THANK YOU. WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF PEOPLE FOR YOU RIGHT NOW SO IT WOULD HAVE BEEN ON OCTOBER 28TH. THERE YOU GO. OKAY, COUNSEL, ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS IF NOT THANK YOU DON'T GO FAR.  THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND I'M 4.3 AND I WILL OPEN THIS PUBLIC HEARING NOW THIS IS REGARDING THE 2025 THROUGH 2034 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN APPROVAL ANYONE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS WISHING TO SPEAK TO ITEM 4.3 THIS EVENING AS PART OF THE PUBLIC HEARING?  ELIZABETH, DO WE HAVE ANYONE ON THE PHONE? MR. MAYOR, THERE IS NO ONE ON LINE LAST CALL FOR ANYBODY IN THE CHAMBERS FOR ITEM 4.3 COUNCIL NO ONE ON THE PHONE, NO ONE COMING FORWARD IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS I WOULD LOOK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING ON IT AND 4.3 SO MOVED MOTION COUNCILMEMBER SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 4.3 NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO MR. VERRILLI MR. MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO THE AGENDA ITEM TWO YOU FOUND THE DOCUMENT SO THERE'S A HYPERLINK FROM THE AGENDA. OKAY.  FURTHER COUNCILMEMBERS WRITE IN THE AGENDA ITEM FOR 4.3 THERE'S A HYPERLINK THAT GOES RIGHT TO THE DOCUMENT EACH PAGE TO 75. YEAH. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL ANY COMMENTS ARE COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR ON THE CHP FOR 2025 THROUGH 2034? COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN I'LL SAY BRIEFLY I JUST APPRECIATE THAT THE YEAR IN AND YEAR OUT THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE MADE WITH THE CHP DOCUMENT THE PROCESS WE'VE COME A LONG WAYS IN THE YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN HERE AND SEEN THAT IT'S PRETTY CLEAR AND IT'S BECOMING MORE AND MORE IMPORTANT YOU KNOW NEXT YEAR WILL BE YEAR WE'LL GET TO SEE THE IMPORTANCE OF THE MAGNITUDE OF THE BUDGET AND ALSO THE PLANNING AND THE PROCESS THAT WE NEED TO DO AROUND THAT. SO AGAIN, THANK FOR THEIR HARD WORK ON THIS PROCESS. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON THANKS, MAYOR. I ACTUALLY THINK THIS IS A VERY GOOD EXAMPLE OF WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE BUDGET OF THE COMMUNITY FOR THINGS AND LOOKING FOR AMENITIES,  LOOKING FOR US TO MAKE INVESTMENTS AND WE NEED BE MINDFUL OF THE BUDGET CHALLENGES THAT ALL OF THESE WILL BRING FORTH AND HOW WE CONTAIN SCOPE AND COST ON THEM AS WELL AS LOOK AT TIMING ON THEM WE KNOW THAT OUR DEBT IS GOING TO BE A BIG PART OF OUR BUDGET GOING FORWARD. SO JUST THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THE ISSUE WE'RE DEALING WITH IT. EXACTLY. EXACTLY. COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I WANTED TO LOOK AT THIS FOR EXACTLY THAT REASON.  NELSON SO IN 2025 WE HAVE THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS, WE HAVE THE EQUIPMENT, THE NEW MAINTENANCE GARAGE. WE HAVE THE PHASE ONE P.W REFIT WHICH I THINK IS THE PUBLIC WORKS REFIT.  IS THAT RIGHT AT P.W IS PUBLIC WORKS YEP.  AND WE HAVE THE CIVIC PLAZA RESTROOM STUFF SO THAT QUESTION THAT AND I KNOW WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE $27 MILLION FOR THE MAINTENANCE GARAGE WAS GOING TO BE THE BIG HIT GOING INTO THE NEXT YEAR.  I WOULD I THINK JUST AS A PART OF THE DISCUSSIONS WE WANT TO HAVE MAKING SURE WE HAVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT NOT THAT WOULD MEAN TO LIKE SERVICES ITSELF.  RIGHT? SO WE CAN MAKE THAT CALL. I KNOW IT'S GOING TO COME US SO LET'S JUST MAKE SURE IT INCLUDES ALL THE THE WHAT IF WE DON'T IT WHAT DOES THAT MEAN AND AND IF AND IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THE PHASE ONE PUBLIC WORKS REFIT WHICH I THINK IS ABOUT THE BUILDING THE PUBLIC SORT OF BUILDING I'M I WANT TO KNOW THAT'S LIKE GOING TO INCLUDE THE I'M ASSUMING THAT INCLUDES THE SOLAR THE CLEARING OF THE ROOF FOR SOLAR AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO I JUST WANT TO BE REALLY ABOUT WHAT THOSE THINGS ACTUALLY INCLUDE SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET TO THAT.  THERE MAY BE OPTIONS HERE IN IN WITH THE RESTROOM IN , THE CARPET WE HAVE TO TALK THROUGH THAT BUT THAT'S NOT IS NOT A HUGE PART OF THE BUDGET SO THAT'S THAT WAS REALLY THE REASON I WANTED TO LOOK AT IT IS TO MAKE SURE WE HAD AN UNDERSTANDING OF OF EVERYTHING THAT'S COMING UP ESPECIALLY THE NEXT TWO YEARS THANK YOU. YEAH OTHERS IF THAT COUNTS I WOULD LOOK FOR ACTION ON IT AND 4.3 THIS EVENING YEAH I'M HAPPY TO MAKE THE MOTION MR. MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THANK YOU. AND BY THE WAY, I DO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN PROACTIVE ABOUT PUSHING THOSE ITEMS OUT ALREADY US SO YOU'VE ALREADY TAKEN OUR FEEDBACK ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE WANT THOSE THINGS TO HIT NEXT YEAR IN THE YEAR AFTER. SO I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH I MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE RESOLUON APPROVING THE CITY'S CAPITAL PLAN 2025 THROUGH 2020 SORRY 2034 AND PROVIDING PRELIMINARY APPROVAL TO THE ISSUANCE OF GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS THERE UNDER SAY MOST OF MY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO SECOND MY COUNCILMEMBER TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION APPROVING CITY'S CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN FOR 2025 THROUGH 2034 FOR THE COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND OUR FINAL PUBLIC HEARING OF THE EVENING'S ITEM POINT FOUR THIS REGARDING AN ORDINANCE ON OUR ENERGY BENCHMARKING AND MR. RICE IS HERE. GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME. GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. SO TONIGHT I'M HERE WITH A RECOMMENDATION TO UPDATE CHAPTER ONE AND TEN OF THE CITY CODE TO ESSENTIALLY REMOVE THE CITY'S BENCHMARK PROGRAM IN 2024 TO MAKE WAY FOR THE STATE OVER THE PROGRAM IN 2025.  I'LL START FOR THOSE WHO ARE LISTENING WITH A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF WHAT IS LARGE BUILDING BENCHMARKING RELATED OUR ENERGY DISCLOSURE ORDINANCE DISCUSSED THE NEW STATE PROGRAM RECAP THE PRESENTATION THAT STAFF PROVIDED IN JUNE PROVIDE UPDATES ABOUT WHAT WE HAVE LEARNED SINCE JUNE REQUIRING THOSE NEW STATE REQUIREMENTS AND THEN PROVIDE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION PROPOSED MOTIONS AND THEN DISCUSSION. SO OUR LARGE BUILDING PROGRAM HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR THREE YEARS. THE PROGRAM REQUIRES ALL BUILDINGS THAT ARE MULTIFAMILY PUBLIC COMMERCIAL TO DISCLOSE THEIR ENERGY USE AT THEIR 75,000 SQUARE FEET AND ABOVE TO HAVE THE PURPOSE OF HAVING BUILDING PROPERTY OWNERS AND MANAGERS UNDERSTAND THE PERFORMANCE OF THEIR BUILDING AND TO ENCOURAGE PEER COMPARISON OF ENERGY USE AND THEN ALSO THE CITY TO BE A RESOURCE TO HELP IMPROVE ENERGY EFFICIENCY IN THE COMMUNITY.  IN 23 AT THE STATE LEGISLATIVE SESSION DURING MAY LAWMAKERS PASSED A NEW LAW ESSENTIALLY HAVING WHAT OUR CURRENT BENCHMARKING PROGRAM IS FOR THE CITY GO STATEWIDE FOR THE FOLLOWING COUNTIES THAT ARE LISTED AND CITIES SO WE WOULD FALL UNDER THAT. I'M THE BUILDING INCLUDE CLASS ONE 100,000 SQUARE FEET AND ABOVE THAT WOULD BENCHMARK NEXT YEAR AND CLASS TWO 50,000 SQUARE FEET AND ABOVE.  SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE KNEW THIS PASSED WAS THAT CITIES WHO CURRENTLY HAVE BENCHMARKING PROGRAMS COULD KEEP THEIR PROGRAMS AS LONG AS THEY MET THE STATE'S REQUIREMENTS. SO THE INITIAL RECOMMENDATION BASED UPON WHAT WE KNEW IN JUNE WAS TO THE PROGRAM AS IS FOR ONE MORE YEAR AND THEN TO RESCIND OUR BENCHMARKING ORDINANCE IN 2026 AND PASS NONE TO THE STATE. THE REASON BEING THAT THERE WOULD BE A GAP YEAR FOR ABOUT 40 PROPERTIES THAT CURRENTLY THAT ARE BETWEEN THAT 75,000 SQUARE FEET AND 100,000 SQUARE FEET. SO WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE AN EASIER TRANSITION  FOR PARTICIPANTS KEEPING UP HABITS. OUR DATA ACCESS AND ALIGNED AT THE TIME WITH WHAT WE THOUGHT OUR PEER CITIES WOULD BE DOING SO IN JUNE IS WHEN STAFF CAME BEFORE YOU.  UNFORTUNATELY IT DID TAKE FIVE MONTHS TO GET CLARITY AND SOME OF OUR QUESTIONS FROM THE STATE WHICH WE RECEIVED LAST MONTH AND THAT INFORMATION REALLY UPDATED WHAT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS.  AND THEN I DO WANT TO NOTE ALSO THAT OUR CONTRACT BECAUSE WE CONTRACT OUT TO DO MOST OF THE WORK FOR THIS PROGRAM WITH TOUCHSTONE IQ ENDS AT THE END OF THIS YEAR AND THAT PROGRAM CYCLE FOR NEXT YEAR STARTS MARCH 1ST THAT WE START DOING OUTREACH AND COMMUNICATION SOMETIMES STARTS EARLIER BUT REPORTING DUE JUNE 1ST. SO WE HAVE A NARROW TIMELINE TO WORK WITH. SO WHAT DID WE LEARN WITH THE STATE UPDATES? SO ONE REQUIREMENT WAS WE NEEDED TO BE AT LEAST AS COMPREHENSIVE IN SCOPE SO.  WE KNEW THAT THE SIZE SQUARE FOOT DIFFERENCE WOULD BE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT'S IN OUR ORDINANCE BUT SINCE WE WERE PLANNING TO THE PROGRAM AT THE END OF 2025 THAT WOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE.  ONE THING THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE STATE'S PROGRAM THAT WASN'T INCLUDED HOURS THAT WAS DETERMINED AS A REQUIRED AMOUNT THAT WE WOULD NEED TO UPDATE IS REQUIRING BENCHMARKING INFORMATION AT THE TIME OF SALE. THAT MEANS ANY ONE OF THESE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES THAT SOLD THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO DEVELOP A PROCESS ENSURING THAT EITHER THE ENERGY STAR PORTFOLIO MANAGER LOG IN THE TOOL THAT THEY USE TO BENCHMARK THAT INFORMATION IS TRANSFERRED THE BUYER OR 12 MONTHS OF DATA SO THAT WOULD BE A NEW PROCESS THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO MANAGE A STAFF TO ENSURE THAT ANY A PROPERTY SOLD THAT WE WOULD BE GETTING THAT INFORMATION TO THE BUYER. THERE ALSO IS THE REQUIREMENT FOR A NEW DISCLOSURE RATING SYSTEM THAT THE CITY WOULD NEED TO BE SENDING OUT A PHYSICAL DISPLAY IN A STAR RATING SYSTEM WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'VE USED IN THE PAST TO BE ABLE TO DISCLOSE TO ANYONE WHAT THE RATING OF THAT FACILITY.  THIS WOULD ALSO REQUIRE FOR ONE YEAR A SETTING UP A NEW PROGRAM AND SYSTEM AND PUTTING TOGETHER THESE TOOLS TO HAVE. AND THEN THE SECOND THING LISTED IS TO INCLUDE ANNUAL ENFORCEMENT OF A PENALTY WE THOUGHT WE HAD THIS ONE COVERED IN THE FIRST THREE YEARS OF THE PROGRAM WE'VE REACHED 85% COMPLIANCE AND WE'VE SEEN THAT GROW EACH YEAR. WITHOUT ENFORCING FINES IT'S AN OPTION BUT WE'VE REALLY FOCUSED ON EDUCATION IN THE EARLY YEARS OF THE PROGRAM. WHAT WE LEARNED FROM STATE IS THAT WE MUST ENFORCE THOSE FINES. SO IF YOU'RE KEEPING THE PROGRAM FOR ONE MORE YEAR STAFF WOULD HAVE TO SET UP SYSTEM TO ACTUALLY GO OUT AND ENFORCE FINES AND DO ALL OF THAT PAPERWORK. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CURRENTLY WOULD NOT BE SOMETHING THAT WE'VE DONE TO DATE. SO GIVEN THIS NEW INFORMATION UPDATING THE ENERGY BENCHMARKING ORDINANCE TO KEEP THE CITY PROGRAM THE PROCESS YOU WOULD HAVE ABOUT 40 BUILDINGS NOT HAVE A GAP HERE POTENTIALLY AN EASIER TRANSITION FOR PARTICIPANTS. THE CONS DEFINITELY FROM THE STAFF PERSPECTIVE OUTWEIGH THIS. THE TIMING SINCE WE LEARNED ABOUT THIS AT THE END OF THIS YEAR GETTING A NEW CONTRACT READY TO GO FOR 2025 AND ALSO PREPARING THAT NEW DISCLOSURE REQUIREMENTS AND ON PROPERTIES AND ALSO THE TIME OF SALE DISCLOSURE OF THAT ENERGY.  OUR PORTFOLIO INFORMATION OR THE 12 MONTHS OF DATA AND THEN ALSO MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE A PROCESS FOR ENFORCING FINES GIVES US A TIGHT WINDOW. RESOURCES WE'VE TALKED ABOUT RESOURCES A LOT TONIGHT. I JUST DON'T THINK THAT IT'S EFFICIENT USE TO BUILD UP A PROGRAM FOR ONE YEAR THAT WE SEE AND THEN IF WE CAN INVEST THAT STAFF TIME IN OTHER WAYS TO REACH OUR CLIMATE GOALS AND THEN ALSO STAFF CAPACITY JUST NOTING THAT THE CITY'S BENCHMARKING OFFICIAL HAS PLANNED PARENTAL LEAVE DURING THAT TIME SO HAVING A NEW PROGRAM WITH LIMITED STAFF CAPACITY OVER THOSE MONTHS WHERE ENFORCEMENT WOULD BEGIN WOULD BE AN EXTRA HURDLE. SO WE'RE SENDING THAT ORDINANCE THE PROS ONE THING WE LEARNED FROM THE STATE IS THAT ALL BUILDINGS IN THEIR CONTRACT EVEN IF YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED BENCHMARK CAN OPTIONALLY DO THIS SO ALL THE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE THAT'S BEEN AVAILABLE TO BUILDINGS WILL CONTINUE. AND SO THOSE PROPERTIES THOSE 40 PROPERTIES CAN STILL BENCHMARK AND RECEIVE THAT INFORMATION AND THEY ALSO HAVE SIGNED A CONTRACT TOUCHSTONE IQ SO WE HAVE THE SAME CONTRACTOR THAT AND HELP DESK THAT PEOPLE ARE FAMILIAR WORKING WITH. SO WE SEE THAT AS AN EASIER TRANSITION.  IT'S ALSO A PRO ALLOWING THE LIMITED STAFF CAPACITY AND FINANCIAL CAPACITY TO BE INVESTED IN THE OTHER CLIMATE INITIATIVES CONS WE ANTICIPATE IF IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT THAT WE WON'T GET A FULL SET OF DATA FOR THOSE APPROXIMATELY FOR REBUILDING BUT DEFINITELY SEEING THE PROS OF ENDING THE PROGRAM TO GET READY TO PASS IT ON TO THE STATES OVER THE CONS OF THAT GAP IN DATA AND BENCHMARKING FOR ONE YEAR. SO THE FINAL RECOMMENDATION IS TO RESCIND OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE AND HAVE THE STATE TAKE OVER THE PROGRAM 2025 AND THE PROPOSED MOTIONS ARE AS FOLLOWS OPEN FOR QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MUCH AND I APPRECIATE THE ANALYSIS AND BREAKING IT DOWN AS YOU DID IT . IT'S A GOOD WAY TO LOOK AT IT SO I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. COUNSEL QUESTIONS ON VERY GOOD. DON'T GO.  THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW. SO THIS IS A PUBLIC ITEM 4.4 OUR ENERGY BENCHMARKING ORDINANCE ANYONE IN THE CHAMBERS WISHING TO SPEAK TO IT AND 4.4 THIS EVENING .  ANYTHING ELIZABETH? NOBODY ONLINE. MR. MAYOR, LAST CALL FOR ANYBODY IN THE CHAMBERS,  COUNSEL NO ONE ONLINE. NO ONE COMING FORWARD IN THE CHAMBERS HERE LOOK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ITEM 4.4 THE MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO A SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 4.4 NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSE MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING ANYTHING ON THIS COUNCIL. COUNCILMAN NELSON YEAH. VERY QUICKLY ONE.  I DO APPRECIATE THAT STAFF BROUGHT FORWARD A RECOMMENDATION TO STOP DOING SOMETHING THAT IS A POSITIVE IN MY MIND WHEN IT MADE SENSE BUT IN PARTICULAR WHAT I REALLY LIKED ABOUT YOUR PRESENTATION IS YOU HAD THE PROS AND CONS AND I'LL BE CANDID A LOT OF TIME WHEN WE ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY PARTICULAR PROGRAM WE'RE TOLD WHY IT'S IMPORTANT WE'RE NOT TOLD WHY IT'S NOT YOU KNOW OR WHY IT MIGHT NOT BE.  AND SO I APPRECIATE THAT HE GAVE BOTH SIDES FOR CONSIDERATION IN THIS AND EVERYTHING HE PRESENTED MAKES ABSOLUTE SENSE AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THE STATE WILL TAKE THIS OVER AND THERE WILL STILL BE BENCHMARKING DATA FOR BUILDINGS AND THAT CONTINUE TO HELP OUR SUSTAINABILITY GOALS. SO THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE THIS ITEM FOR US? NO THANKS I WOULD MAYOR I'LL JUST GO YES AS A MEMBER MORE HIRED MOVE TO ADAPT ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTERS ONE IN TEN AND CITY CODE TO BY RESCINDING ENERGY BENCHMARKING IN VIOLATION PROCEDURES MOTION COUNCILMEMBER SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO TO ADOPT THE ORDINANCE RESCINDING ENERGY BENCHMARKING AND ENFORCEMENT AND VIOLATION PROCEDURES IN THE CITY.  NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO COUNCILMEMBER SUMMARY PUBLICATION THANK YOU I MOVE TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION SUMMARY PUBLICATION OF ORDINANCE THEREBY RESCINDING ENERGY BENCHMARKING AND ENFORCEMENT AND VIOLATION PROCEDURES.  MOTION BY THE COUNCILMEMBER SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO FOR SUMMARY PUBLICATION ITEM 4.4. NO FURTHER DISCUSSION ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSE MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.  YOU'LL BE TELLING ME ONE MORE TIME WHEN ME AND TO ITEM FIVE OUR ORGANIZATIONAL BUSINESS AND ITEM 5.1 IS A DISCUSSION OF OUR 2025 LEGISLATIVE PLATFORM AND BREANNA EICHELBERGER SPECIAL PROJECTS IS HERE TO KICK US OFF SCREAMING WELCOME. HELLO. GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL TONIGHT ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER ELIZABETH SALZMAN AND ARE HERE TO PRESENT THE PROPOSED 2025 LEGISLATIVE LEGISLATIVE FOR THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON SO JUST QUICK LOOK AT OUR AGENDA. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT STAFF HAS BEEN UP TO THIS SUMMER AND FALL AS WE'VE PREPARED FOR THE 2025 SESSION WE'LL HEAR FROM OUR STATE AND FEDERAL LOBBYISTS AS THEY SHARE THEIR INSIGHTS AND UPDATES AND THEN WE'LL REVIEW THE DRAFT PLATFORM INCLUDED IN TONIGHT'S AGENDA PACKET WHICH INCLUDES A LIST OF PRIORITIES THAT WE'RE READY TO LEAD ON AT THE CAPITOL AND THE LIST OF PRIORITIES WE'RE LOOKING TO DIRECTLY SUPPORT. AND THEN FINALLY WE'LL THE THREE PROJECTS THAT STAFF IS PROPOSING FOR CAPITAL BUDGET REQUEST WE'LL END WITH A DISCUSSION AND ASK FOR YOUR DIRECTION MOVING FORWARD. SO WHEN STAFF BEGAN THE CONVERSATION AROUND THE 2025 PLATFORM THIS SUMMER OUR AIM WAS TO GROUND THE DISCUSSION AND THE PRIORITIES OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN BLOOMINGTON TOMORROW TOGETHER SO YOU'LL SEE THE ITEMS IN THE DRAFT PLATFORM ALIGN WITH OUR KEY STRATEGIC PRIORITIES OF A CONNECTED AND WELCOMING COMMUNITY, A HEALTHY COMMUNITY AND A COMMUNITY WITH ACTUALLY EQUITABLE ECONOMIC GROWTH.  SO HERE'S A TIMELINE AS WE WERE TO GET READY FOR 2025 OUR INTERNAL STAFF TEAMS MET IN AUGUST WE HELD A LEGISLATIVE SESSION DEBRIEF AND MEET AND GREET WITH OUR STATE AND FEDERAL LOBBYISTS TO GIVE STAFF MORE ACCESS TO THOSE RESOURCES. AND WE ALSO MET WITH OUR EXCUSE ME IN AUGUST WE HAD A LEGISLATIVE PRIORITY WORKSHOP AND WE CREATED A WORKING MATRIX STAFF COULD START DISCUSSION AROUND SEE WHERE OUR SUPPORT WOULD BE HELPFUL AT LEGISLATURE AND WHERE WE WOULD LIKE TO LEAD ON SOME ITEMS.  IN OCTOBER WE HOSTED A MEETING WITH OUR BLOOMINGTON DELEGATION THAT SENATOR WICKER AND REPRESENTATIVE ELKINS AND REPRESENTATIVE COULTER AND UNFORTUNATELY SENATOR MANN WAS UNABLE TO JOIN US THAT DAY BUT . WE HAD A REALLY GREAT CONVERSATION AND THEN YOU'LL SEE IT THROUGHOUT NOVEMBER OR OCTOBER NOVEMBER THE LAB TEAM CONTINUE REFINING THE DRAFT DOCUMENT THAT'S BEFORE YOU TONIGHT AND BEFORE WE JUMP INTO THAT WE WANTED TO INVITE OUR LOBBYISTS AND FIRST GOING TO INTRODUCE EMILY TRANTER. SHE'S OUR LEAD LOBBYIST FOR THE PRIVACY STRATEGY GROUP AND SHE REPRESENTS BLOOMINGTON AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL BASED OUT OF WASHINGTON, D.C. AND AFTER THAT WILL INVITE KATIE SAND TO COME FORWARD. SHE'S HERE WITH US TONIGHT. SHE'S PRINCIPAL WITH MR. LEE KRAMER AND SHE REPRESENTS BLOOMINGTON AT THE STATE LEVEL AND SHE'LL ALSO SOME INSIGHTS WITH US. SO I WILL INVITE EMILY TO JOIN THE CONVERSATION.  GOOD EVENING, MR. TRANTER. HOW ARE YOU? I'M GREAT.  CAN YOU HEAR ME? WE CAN. VERY GOOD TO SEE YOU. VERY GOOD TO SEE YOU AS.  WELL. WELL, HAPPY ALMOST 2025. IT'S WONDERFUL TO BE ALL OF YOU TONIGHT.  I'LL KEEP MY BRIEF AND JUST KIND OF GIVE YOU A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW IN CONGRESS AND WHAT TO EXPECT KIND OF COMING DOWN IMMEDIATE PIKE.  SO WE ARE RIGHT NOW IN LAME DUCK AFTER THE NOVEMBER 2024 ELECTIONS. CONGRESS STILL HAS A FEW WEEKS TO GET THEIR DONE BEFORE THE NEW CONGRESS IS CONVENED IN JANUARY 2025. SO TYPICALLY THAT'S CAN BE A VERY ACTIVE SESSION. HOWEVER THIS YEAR BECAUSE OF THE REPUBLICAN TRIFECTA IN THE HOUSE, SENATE AND THE WHITE HOUSE THERE'S AS MUCH OF AN APPETITE OR NOT AS MUCH NEED PASS THINGS BECAUSE THERE A NEW CONGRESS WILL BE COMING IN AND PRIORITIES CAN BE SET OUT AND MOVED FORWARD THEN.  BUT THE ONE MAJOR THING THAT WE NEED TO PASS BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR WITH WITH SOME OTHER EXCEPTIONS BUT IS THE FEDERAL OR A CONTINUING RESOLUTION WHICH IS WHAT IS LIKELY TO HAPPEN OR MOST LIKELY TO HAPPEN? SO WE ARE OPERATING UNDER A CONTINUING RESOLUTION RIGHT NOW THAT EXPIRES THIS FRIDAY,  DECEMBER 20TH AT MIDNIGHT AND BETWEEN NOW AND THEN WE NEED TO CONGRESS NEEDS TO DRAFT RELEASE AND PASS ANOTHER CONTINUING RESOLUTION THAT WILL FOR ALL REPORTS AND INTENDS TO GET US THROUGH MARCH OF 2025 SO THAT THE NEW CONGRESS CAN COME IN AND FIGURE OUT PRIORITIES AND TOP LINE SPENDING ITEMS AND PASS A FULL OR ALMOST FULL BUDGET THROUGH THE END OF FISCAL YEAR 2025 THAT ENDS IN SEPTEMBER. WE ARE ANXIOUSLY AWAITING THE THE RELEASE OF CURRENT CONTINUING RESOLUTION THAT WILL TAKE US THROUGH THAT MARCH DATE SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE A GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN ON FRIDAY. WE EXPECT THAT TO COME.  HOWEVER WE ARE EXPECTING IT TO COME OUT EARLIER TODAY AND OVER THE WEEKEND. SO KIND OF HOUR BY HOUR WE'RE LIKELY TO SEE A DRAFT BILL AND AGAIN THAT WILL BE THE BUDGET THAT PREVENTS A GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN AND GETS US THROUGH MARCH 2025.  THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT THEY ARE WORKING OUT JOCKEYING IF YOU WILL BEHIND THE SCENES TO TRY TO GET SOME POLICY PROVISIONS TIED ON BECAUSE.  THEY'RE ALSO USING CONGRESS IS ALSO USING THIS CONTINUING RESOLUTION AS THE TO PASS A YEARLONG EXTENSION TO THE FARM BILL SO BASICALLY JUST RIDING ALONG ON THAT AND SO THERE'S LOTS OF JOCKEYING AND DISCUSSIONS ABOUT DIFFERENT PROVISIONS IN THERE.  SO ONCE THAT BILL IS PASSED WHICH LIKELY EVEN THOUGH WILL PROBABLY DOWN TO THE WIRE, IT WILL HAPPEN THIS WEEK THE 118TH CONGRESS WILL EFFECTIVELY AND AND WE WILL BEGIN 119TH CONGRESS ON JANUARY 3RD WHEN NEW MEMBERS ARE SWORN IN . YOU, AS YOU ALL KNOW, HAVE A NEW MEMBER OF CONGRESS, CONGRESSWOMAN KELLY MORSE AND AND WILL BE REALLY GREAT TO SEE HER GET INTO D.C. HER COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENTS WHICH ARE BEING WORKED OUT RIGHT NOW BY DEMOCRATIC LEADERSHIP AND ALL OF HER PRIORITIES THAT SHE WILL BOTH WORK ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AND THE REST OF HER DISTRICT.  SO JUST ONE MORE NOTE AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS IF THERE IS TIME OR IF THAT'S IF OR AFTER LATER IN THE PRESENTATION BUT AS WE LOOK FORWARD TO 2025, WE WILL BE WORKING UNDER A NEW CONGRESS THAT WILL HAVE NEW PRIORITIES AS I'VE MENTIONED BUT WE DO EXPECT TO SEE THE SAME SORT OF FORMAT WE HAVE IN PAST YEARS WHICH IS THAT IN THE SPRING WHETHER WE'RE WHETHER WE HAVE A FULL BUDGET FOR THE COMING YEAR OR NOT, WE WILL LIKELY START BEGINNING THE PROCESS OF UNDERSTANDING WHAT CONGRESS IS GOING TO DO WITH EARMARKS. EARMARKS ARE CONGRESSIONALLY DIRECTED SPENDING OR COMMUNITY PROJECT OR TWO ACRONYMS THAT ARE USED ESSENTIALLY LINE ITEMS THAT YOUR MEMBERS CONGRESS REQUEST TO THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE AND PASS AS FEDERAL BUDGET ITEMS.  AND AS YOU RECALL WE DO HAVE A BOOSTER STATION IN THE CURRENT BUDGET WHICH WE HOPE TO PASS BY MARCH 2025 $1.2 BILLION. SO THAT PROCESS WILL LIKELY CHANGE A LITTLE WITH NEW LEADERSHIP IN THE COMMITTEES ON THE SENATE SIDE AND POSSIBLY BE MORE RESTRICTIVE. WE DO ANTICIPATE THAT LOCAL GOVERNMENTS WILL STILL BE ELIGIBLE AND A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS WILL LIKELY BE PRIORITIZED. SO WE'LL WATCH THAT PROCESS CLOSELY, BE IN TOUCH WITH STAFF AND I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY IT HAS BEEN SUCH A GREAT LEARNING EXPERIENCE AND YOU KNOW JUST REALLY GRATIFYING TO SPEND MORE TIME WITH THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON ON THESE PROJECTS AND LEARNING MORE ABOUT THE DIFFERENT FOCUS OF THIS DEPARTMENT. SO APPRECIATE THE TIME THAT BRIANNA KIND OF THAT TIMELINE THAT SHE LAID OUT WE'VE OUR FIRM RYAN KELLY OUR PRESIDENT CEO AND I HAVE BEEN SO GRATEFUL TO HAVE THAT TIME TO TO LEARN AND REALLY DIG ON THE CITY'S PRIORITIES SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME THIS EVENING AND THANK YOU BECAUSE ANY QUICK QUESTIONS FOR MS. TRANTER BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO KATIE SAID VERY GOOD ALL RIGHT GOOD EVENING WELCOME GOOD EVENING THANKS FOR STICKING IT OUT WITH US COUNSEL. YEAH, I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LONG NIGHT SO I WILL I WILL TO TO ALSO TALK FOR JUST ABOUT 5 MINUTES AND THEN I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS BUT I JUST WANTED TO START BY KIND OF REITERATING WHAT I'VE HEARD ALL OF YOU SAY THIS EVENING WHICH IS HOW GREAT YOUR STAFF IS TO WORK WITH AND HOW RESPECTED THEY'RE AT THE CAPITOL. WE GET A LOT OF CALLS FOR PEOPLE FROM, ALL DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS TO COME AND SHARE THEIR EXPERTIZE BECAUSE YOUR STAFF IS REALLY KNOWN FOR BEING SOPHISTICATED AND A LOT OF DEEP EXPERTIZE AND YEARS OF SERVICE. SO YOU SHOULD SHOULD PROUD OF THAT AND WE ALSO HAVE A REALLY GREAT DELEGATION I THINK WORKS VERY HARD FOR THE CITY AND SO I KNOW WHEN WE COME TO THEM WITH PLATFORM THAT YOU ALL ARE GOING TO PASS NEXT MONTH THEY THEY REALLY DO WORK VERY HARD TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO STRATEGIZE AND PASS IT ALSO JUST BRIEF YOU KNOW I'M I SHOULD HAVE STARTED BY SAYING I'M KATIE SUTTON I'M THE CONTRACT LOBBYIST I WORK AT SHIRLEY I THINK I'VE MET ALL OF YOU AND I REALLY FOCUS ON BLOOMINGTON SPECIFIC BILLS SO THINGS WHERE WE'RE WE'RE INTRODUCING JUST FOR BLOOMINGTON ARE RESPONDING THINGS JUST FOR BLOOMINGTON BUT WE WERE I WORK REALLY CLOSELY WITH WILLIAM MINNESOTA CITIES AND METRO CITIES AND MLC SO SOME OF THOSE BROADER CITY BILLS I'M PAYING ATTENTION TO THEM BUT MY FOCUS IS REALLY BLOOMINGTON SPECIFIC AND OBVIOUSLY FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT ANY TIME IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.  SO I'M JUST GOING TO VERY BRIEFLY KIND OF DO AN OVERVIEW OF THE ELECTION I KNOW YOU ALL WERE FOLLOWING IT SO I WILL TALK NUMBERS OF WHAT'S HAPPENING AND KIND OF WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN NEXT. WHAT WE'RE WATCHING THERE IS 100 TO 101 DIVIDE IN THE MINNESOTA HOUSE AND SENATE IF YOU ADD IT TOGETHER THE HOUSE IS TIED 6767 THE DEMOCRATS HAD BEEN IN THE MAJORITY. THE REPUBLICANS NEEDED FOUR SEATS TO TAKE THE MAJORITY AND THREE TO TIE AND THEY WON THREE. THERE'S STILL A COUPLE OF ELECTIONS THAT BEING CONTESTED THAT ARE CURRENTLY HELD BY DEMOCRATS. SO IF IF THE COURTS REQUIRE NEW ELECTIONS AND EITHER OF THOSE SEATS  AND IF EITHER OF THOSE FLIPPED THEN THAT COULD CHANGE THE MAJORITY. SO WE'RE KIND OF , YOU KNOW, STILL WAITING ON A FEW THINGS TO FALL PLACE. THERE IS NO RULE IN MINNESOTA ABOUT HOW TO BREAK A TIE IN THE HOUSE. THERE WAS AN ATTEMPT AT SOME POINT TO ADD 135TH MEMBERS SO THERE WOULD NOT BE TIE AND THE COURT STRUCK IT DOWN. AND SO YOU CAN HAVE THREE MEMBERS AND ONE IS AN INDUSTRIAL SENATE DISTRICT AND THAT'S NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN ANYWAY.  DON'T WORRY. AND NOW IT HAS THAT'S THE SECOND TIME SINCE THERE'S BEEN PARTY AFFILIATION AND EVER.  AND SO IT'S GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT MOST OF US HAVE NEVER SEEN BEFORE THE HOUSE AND SENATE LEADER THAT SORRY THE REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRATIC LEADERS NEED TO WORK OUT A POWER SHARING AGREEMENT WHICH THEY ARE CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS OF AND THEY'RE KIND OF STEP BY STEP THEY'VE DECIDED THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE CO-CHAIRS AND EVERY COMMITTEE DEMOCRAT ONE REPUBLICAN THEY'RE GOING TO PASS THE GAVEL BACK AND FORTH . THEY HAVEN'T. BUT THERE MAY BE RESTRICTIONS ABOUT IF THEY HAVE TO HAVE AGREEMENT ON BILLS BUT THAT HAS NOT BEEN DECIDED YET. I THINK PROBABLY BECAUSE THERE ARE THESE COUPLE OF ELECTIONS STILL HANGING OUT THERE.  WE DON'T KNOW WHO THE SPEAKER IS YET. THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE SPEAKER. AND SO THAT'S IN THAT'S IN . SO THEY HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW THEY'RE GOING TO DO THAT AND ANYTHING I'LL EITHER COMMITTEE OR THE COMMITTEES ARE ALL GOING TO HAVE EXACTLY EVEN NUMBER OF DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS. SO ANYTHING THAT EVEN JUST GETS OUT OF COMMITTEE IS GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE BIPARTISAN SUPPORT. SO PROBABLY WHAT THAT MEANS IS IN THE HOUSE ARE GOING TO DEFINITELY NEED BIPARTISAN SUPPORT AND PROBABLY JUST MOVE SLOWLY AS THEY FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO. THEY HAVE TO PASS A BUDGET THIS YEAR SO THAT THAT DOES NEED TO HAPPEN THE SENATE THE DEMOCRATS HAD A ONE SEAT MAJORITY. THERE WAS OF COURSE ONE SPECIAL ELECTION IN THE WESTERN FOR KELLY MORRISON'S SEAT. THE DEMOCRATS HELD THAT SEAT SO CONTINUE TO HAVE A ONE SEAT MAJORITY. THEY HAVE A MEMBER IN THE SENATE HAS A TRIAL FOR A FELONY COMING UP IN AND DEPENDING ON WHAT HAPPENS WITH THAT THERE COULD POTENTIALLY BE ANOTHER THERE COULD BE A TIE IN THE SENATE IF SHE HAD IF SHE WERE REMOVED OR STEPPED DOWN AND THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A SPECIAL ELECTION. SO A LOT OF MOVING PIECES IN MINNESOTA VERY, VERY CLOSELY AND SO WE'LL BE WATCHING TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS.  AND THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO JUST TOUCH BRIEFLY ON IS THE FORECAST WHICH CAME OUT THE FIRST WEEK OF DECEMBER. IT WAS MUCH GLOOMIER THAN IT HAS BEEN AND I THINK THAN A LOT OF US EXPECTED IT TO BE. REVENUES WERE WERE DOWN MORE THAN THEY HAD BEEN IN RECENT FORECASTS. SO THE FORECAST IS SHOWING FOR THE CURRENT YEAR CYCLE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO PLANNING FOR THERE IS A SURPLUS OF ABOUT 600 MILLION THAT INCLUDES INFLATION. SO IT ASSUMES LEGISLATION THE LEGISLATURE WILL PASS BILLS THAT ACCOUNT FOR INFLATION YOU DON'T MAKE THAT ASSUMPTION. THERE'S ABOUT A ONE AND A HALF BILLION DOLLAR SURPLUS THAT'S LITTLE BIT BIGGER. THE REAL ISSUE IS THE NEXT TWO YEARS THE PLANNING YEARS WHICH THEY DON'T HAVE TO SOLVE FOR THIS YEAR BUT THEY USUALLY ATTEMPT TO YOU KNOW, AS LOTS OF GOVERNMENT UNITS DO LOOKING AHEAD AND THERE IS A DEFICIT IN THOSE PLANNING YEARS, A TRUE DEFICIT OF OVER $5 BILLION IF YOU INCLUDE INFLATION IN ABOUT THREE AND A HALF BILLION DOLLAR DEFICIT IF YOU DON'T INCLUDE INFLATION SO THAT PUTS INTO CONTEXT THE SURPLUS THIS YEAR IF YOU SPEND THAT SURPLUS THAT DEFICIT GETS BIGGER IN THE PLANNING YEARS AND.  SO IN ADDITION TO HAVING A VERY CLOSELY DIVIDED LEGISLATURE SURE THERE'S ALSO NOT A LOT OF MONEY AND SO I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT HARDER TO GET THINGS PASSED AND IT'S GOING TO BE SLOWER IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF BIPARTISAN SUPPORT. I DO THINK THERE'S INTEREST IN DOING A BONDING BILL WHICH ALWAYS TAKES BIPARTISAN SUPPORT SO THAT'S GOOD.  THE FORECAST PUT A LITTLE DAMPER ON THE BONDING BILL TOO THOUGH THE PREVIOUS FORECAST SELL OUT OF $980 MILLION IN BONDING DOES AND YOU'D STILL STAY WITHIN THE DEBT GUIDELINES.  NOW BASED ON SOME OF THE REVENUE DECREASES, THAT NUMBER HAS GONE DOWN TO 790 MILLION SO A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT DROP IN THE SIZE OF THE BORROWING THAT THEY COULD DO FOR A BONDING BILL. SO THERE'S ANOTHER FORECAST IN FEBRUARY. SO THINGS OBVIOUSLY IF THINGS TURN AROUND NUMBERS COULD CHANGE. BUT THAT'S KIND OF THE WHERE WE'RE AT IN NOVEMBER SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.  I'M GOING TO ASK THE OBVIOUS QUESTION REALISTICALLY IS ANYTHING GOING TO GET DONE? THEY HAVE TO PASS A TWO YEAR BUDGET. SO I MEAN EVERY EVERY COMMITTEE WILL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO FUND ALL THE STATE AGENCIES AND ALL THE PROGRAMS THAT AREN'T AUTOMATICALLY FUNDED AND SO THEY WILL HAVE TO PASS OR THEY WILL HAVE TO PASS STUFF.  HMM. I DON'T HAVE ANY VACATIONS PLANNED FOR GOOD COP ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE SENATE COUNCILMEMBER THEY MAY IT MORE OF JUST A COMMENT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE THANK YOU FOR THE WORK YOU DO LUJAN HAS A REPUTATION AND IT'S NOT BY ACCIDENT IT'S BECAUSE OF THE WORK THAT YOU DO AND HOW YOU SUPPORT US AND WHAT WE TO SEE GET ACCOMPLISHED IN BLOOMINGTON. SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE WE WE INFLUENCE A LOT OF THINGS AND WE TRY TO DO THAT TO SUPPORT THE REST OF THE STATE. AND I'M VERY I'M CAUTIOUSLY OPTIMISTIC ABOUT THE BONDING BILL AFTER HEARING FROM MANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS THROUGHOUT THE STATE, ESPECIALLY SMALL TOWNS AND NOT HAVING A BONDING BILL LAST YEAR THAT REALLY IMPACTED A LOT OF OTHER COMMUNITIES IN MINNESOTA.  AND SO LOOKING FORWARD TO WHAT THIS GOING TO BRING BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU. MY PLEASURE. COUNCIL MEMBER AND I THINK VERY GOOD THANK YOU MUCH.  I'M BACK.  OKAY. THANK YOU KATIE AND EMILY AND I'M GOING TO TURN NOW OUR DRAFT LEGISLATIVE PLATFORM FOR THE 25 SESSION. YOU'LL SEE HERE THAT WE'VE LISTED ISSUES WE'D LIKE TO ON DURING SESSION AND THESE ARE ISSUES THAT ARE SPECIFIC OR UNIQUE TO BLOOMINGTON AND THE REQUESTS THAT WE ARE LOOKING ARE LIFTING LIQUOR PROHIBITION ON THE D1 GOLF COURSE PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTION FOR THE REMODELED PROPERTY FUNDING,  SOLAR ON CAPITAL PROJECTS, NORTH CENTRAL SANITARY SEWER DIVERSION AND THEN FUNDING SUPPORT FOR OUR WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM BLOOM AND BLOOMINGTON AND THEN A LITTLE BIT LONGER LIST IS OUR PRIORITIES TO SUPPORT AND SO THIS IS THE COMPREHENSIVE LIST OF AND AND MANY AREAS THAT STAFF ARE COMMITTED TO SUPPORTING BUT OUR BROADER ISSUES ACROSS THE REGION STATE OR NATION THAT ARE NOT NECESSARILY UNIQUE TO OUR OWN CITY AND SUPPORT FROM CITY COULD MEAN STAFF OR COUNCIL PROVIDING TESTIMONY AT HEARINGS COMMITTEE OR SUBCOMMITTEE WORK WITH STAKEHOLDER GROUPS PROVIDING LETTERS OF SUPPORT ON SPECIFIC TOPICS OR OTHER MEANS AS REQUESTED.  AND ULTIMATELY THIS LIST HELPS GIVE STAFF OUR LOBBYISTS GUIDANCE ON OUR POSITION WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH THE LANGUAGE ON SOME OF THESE ITEMS SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE HAPPY TO BRING IT TO YOU TONIGHT FOR FOR YOUR LOOK AND THEN FINALLY YOU'LL SEE ON ON OUR LIST HERE THE PROPOSED CAPITAL BUDGET REQUEST AGAIN YOU'LL SEE THE NORTH CENTRAL SANITARY PROJECT NORMANDY BOULEVARD TRAIL AND THEN FINALLY ANIMAL SHELTER.  SO NOW IT'S DISCUSSION TIME AND THAT'S THE END OF THE PRESENTATION AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR YOUR FEEDBACK ON THE PROPOSED PROPOSED PLATFORM AND DIRECTION THAT YOU WOULD LIKE FOR US TO TAKE AND WITH REMINDER THAT WILL BE BACK ON MONDAY, JANUARY SIX TO REQUEST FINAL ADOPTION OF A REVISED PLATFORM BEFORE A SESSION BEGINS ON JANUARY 14TH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.  COUNSEL QUESTIONS OR SUGGESTIONS HERE? COUNCILMEMBER CARTER STARTED THANKING ME SO I DID ASK THIS QUESTION BEFORE THE MEETING BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE COMMUNITY TO HEAR ESPECIALLY AS WE JUST CAME OUT OF OUR BUDGET DISCUSSION. SO ONE OF THE PRIORITIES UNDER EMPLOYMENT AND LABOR IS CONTINUED FUNDING FOR EARNED SICK AND SAFELY OF AND MINNESOTA PAID LEAVE LAW AND SO MY QUESTION BEEN LIKE WAIT ARE WE GETTING FUNDING TO COVER OUR STAFF THAT ARE HELPING TO NOW EXECUTE ON THOSE REQUIREMENTS OR PROVIDE COMPLIANCE RESOURCES? I GUESS SO CAN YOU JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT PRIORITY AND WHAT THAT MEANS FOR THE CITY. WHAT ARE WE ASKING. YEAH SO CURRENTLY WE DO NOT DIRECT FUNDING OR REIMBURSEMENTS FOR THAT. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD BE ASKING FOR SO WE CAN CONTINUE OUR PROGRAM AT THE CITY LEVEL.  SO I THINK THAT THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR TO HEAR THAT IF WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO IT THAT WE ARE ASKING THE STATE TO US FOR PROVIDING THAT THOSE RESOURCES SO AND THEN THE OTHER ONE THAT I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE WELL POLICIES AND PROGRAMS THAT INCREASE REGIONAL HOUSING SUPPLY AND AFFORDABILITY IS THAT JUST KIND OF AS THEY COME UP WE WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE REACTIONARY CENTER HOUSING. MR. DRAGHI. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER CARTER, THIS ACTUALLY HAS BEEN A SIGNIFICANT STUDY ISSUE OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS AND WE'VE BEEN VERY ACTIVELY ENGAGED WITH SOME OF OUR PARTNERS LEGISLATIVE COMMISSION, LEAGUE OF MINNESOTA CITIES, METRO CITIES ALL ARE WORKING TOWARDS THE THE HOUSING ISSUE. YOU MAY RECALL LAST SESSION MISSING LEGISLATION WAS THOROUGHLY DISCUSSED AND DEBATED AND ULTIMATELY NOTHING WAS DONE AND THE CITIES ARE CONTINUING TO WORK TO TRY AND FIND SOME MEDIUM GROUND WITH LEGISLATORS WHO WERE LOOKING ACTION WORKING WITH DEVELOPERS SO THE WELL-CRAFTED PART OF THAT IS TRYING TO FIND LANGUAGE THAT WE CAN ALL RALLY AROUND TO SUPPORT BECAUSE THERE OBVIOUSLY MANY DIFFERENT INTERESTS THAT ARE AT PLAY AND EVEN AMONG CITY YOU KNOW YOUR CITY INTERESTS INTERESTS OF FIRST RING SUBURBS OR OLDER MORE DEVELOPED SUBURBS ARE MAYBE DIFFERENT THAN OF THE STILL DEVELOPING SUBURBS IN THIS CONVERSATION. SO IT'S A REALLY TOUGH NUT TO CRACK. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO. THANKS, MR. MAYOR AND CITY,  THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE.  AND I HAVE A SPECIFIC QUESTION ABOUT THE MAYBE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE BLOOMINGTON LED PRIORITIES VERSUS THE REST OF THE THE REST OF THE DOCUMENT. DO WE DO WE ONLY TAKE THE LEAD WHEN THEY'RE SPECIFIC TO BLOOMINGTON IS THAT KIND OF THE THAT WE'RE USING SO WHEN WE SAY BLOOMINGTON SPECIFIC SPECIFIC REQUESTS,  THOSE ARE THINGS THAT BECAUSE NOBODY ELSE IS GOING TO PICK THEM UP AND THERE'S TO US WE LEAD ON OR ARE THERE OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO LEAD ON SOME THE OTHER ITEMS JUST KIND OF CURIOUS HOW THOSE DECISIONS ARE MADE OR MAYBE IT'S JUST VERNACULAR TO.  THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO, WHAT WOULD WE HAVE TYPICALLY DONE IN TERMS OF IN TERMS OF IDENTIFYING PROJECTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO LEAD ON OR ONES THE COUNCIL HAVE TOLD US ARE SPECIFICALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO WORK ON AND TYPICALLY THOSE ARE BLOOMINGTON PROJECTS. SO WE HAVE I'M TRYING TO RECALL IN MY TIME HERE IF WE'VE ACTUALLY TAKEN A LEAD ON AN ISSUE THAT HAS HAD SCOPE MAYBE BEYOND AND I'M I'M HARD PRESSED TO THINK OF ONE SO YOU KNOW REALLY WHAT FOCUSED ON HERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE RELATED TO WHAT THE COUNCIL HAS SAID AS STRATEGIC PRIORITIES ARE WE KNOW ARE CRITICAL ISSUES IS AS WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD WHETHER IT'S DEVELOPMENT OR RELATED TO OUR OPERATIONS THE OTHER REASON THAT WE WANT TO BE REALLY CLEAR ABOUT THE PRIORITIES IS FOR OUR LOBBYIST FOR FOR KATIE TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT SHE SHOULD BE FOCUSED ON BUT ALSO FOR OUR LEGISLATORS TO HAVE A GOOD SENSE TOO RIGHT BECAUSE WE DO WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH OUR DELEGATION AND.  WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR PRIORITIES ARE REALLY CLEAR TO THEM SO THEY KNOW.  SURE. OKAY. SO SO TO THAT END THERE'S A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS I HAVE THE FIRST ONE BEING GIVEN THE YOU KNOW, COLLECTIVE THIS GOVERNMENT OF OF OUR EXPERIENCE RELATED TO THE FIBER OUTLAY.  I'M SURPRISED NOT TO SEE THE RIGHT OF WAY STUFF NOT IN OUR PRIORITIES MAYBE IT'S A FUNCTION OF OTHER PEOPLE ARE ASKING FOR THAT AND AGAIN I'M NOT SAYING IT'S NOT PRIORITY SUPPORT LIKE SPECIFICALLY LED BLOOMINGTON LED THAT'S WHAT THAT'S QUESTION I'M ASKING WHY IS IT AT THE TOP OF THE LIST BECAUSE IT'S BEEN SUCH A PAINFUL EXPERIENCE FOR US AND WE PROBABLY HAVE A LOT OF KEY LEARNINGS COULD OFFER IN IN PUSHING AN AGENDA YOU WILL SO THAT WOULD BE ONE. THE SECOND QUESTION I HAVE IS I DON'T REALLY KNOW I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT MAYBE.  MAYBE IT'S A PORT THING OR WHATEVER. WHY WE WOULD EXTEND THE EXEMPTION FOR RAMANA LAKE, WHY THAT'S A PRIORITY IF IT'S TRUE THAT COUNCIL GIVES DIRECTION FOR OUR PRIORITIES. I DON'T RECALL A CONVERSATION WHERE WE WAITED ON THAT BUT MAYBE I'M WRONG SO THE OTHER ONES MAKE SENSE TO ME. YEAH THANK MR. MAYOR. COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO ON ON THAT SPECIFIC ITEM WE ARE PRESENTING THAT FOR FOR COUNCIL DISCUSSION CONSIDERATION THIS YEAR SINCE WE ACQUIRED THAT PROPERTY THERE'S THERE'S A TIME PERIOD BY WHICH IT CAN REMAIN EXEMPT AND WE'RE REACHING THE SUNSET ESSENTIALLY OF THAT OF THAT TIME FRAME.  THIS IS A THIS IS A PROPERTY THAT WE HAD SPECIFICALLY HELD ASIDE FROM DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE WE PURSUING A MUCH LARGER REGIONAL INTEREST THIS WAS PART OF THE EXPO PIECE I REMEMBER NOW SO SO WHEN I READ RAMONA I ASSUMED IT WAS RELATED TO THE MALL OF AMERICA'S RAMADA. THAT'S NOT THE RAMADA YOU'RE REFERRING TO NOW I'M CLEAR. THANK YOU. YEAH. AND IT'S THE PROPERTY USED TO BE IF I UNDERSTAND PROPERTY THUNDERBIRD OR WHATEVER YEAH YEAH SO UNDERSTAND THANKS FOR THAT. YUP. YES IT'S JUST THAT OPEN QUESTION ABOUT WHY WOULDN'T BE MORE FORWARD ON RIGHT AWAY MAYBE I DON'T KNOW.  YEAH SO THE RIGHT AWAY ISSUE IS A TRICKY ONE COUNCILMEMBERS THE THE THE STATE LAW THAT REQUIRES US TO MAKE OUR OF WAY RIGHTS OF WAY TO GET MY PLURALS RIGHT GET THE RIGHTS OF WAY ACCESSIBLE IS PRETTY EXPANSIVE AND WE'RE LIMITED IN TERMS OF HOW MUCH WE CAN REGULATE OUR OWN.  THIS IS THIS IS A BIG ISSUE FOR OUR CITY LOBBYING PARTNERS. SO I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S NECESSARILY SOMETHING WE WANT OR NEED TO TAKE A LEAD ON.  I DON'T KNOW IF WE WOULD BE EFFECTIVE IF WE WERE TO TAKE THE LEAD ON IT JUST BECAUSE THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT EXTENDS FAR BEYOND BLOOMINGTON I THINK WE HAVE A GOOD STORY TO TELL IN SUPPORT OF THAT NARRATIVE FOR THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE WORKING ON IT BECAUSE FRANKLY SOME OF IMPACTS THAT WE HAVE EXPERIENCED ARE GREATER THAN HAS BEEN EXPERIENCED IN OTHER COMMUNITIES, RIGHT? SO TO THAT POINT OF MAKING OUR STAFF AVAILABLE TO HELP INFORM THAT NARRATIVE AT THE LEGISLATURE IS GOING TO BE REALLY IMPORTANT. I JUST DON'T KNOW IF IT'S BENEFICIAL TO US IF IT'S PRODUCTIVE FOR US TO BE IN THE LEAD. OKAY. THANKS COUNCILMEMBER AND THEN WE'VE GOT TO KEEP MOVING ON TO HUMAN WE'RE NOT GOING TO. THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE IS REGARDING THE THE HOUSING PIECE HAVE WE HEARD ANY MORE FROM LAST SESSION THE CONVERSATION ABOUT PREEMPTION AND ZONING IN CITIES LIKE IS THAT DIED IS THAT STILL A CONVERSATION THAT THEY'RE INTERESTED IN ? MR. RUBIN. MR. AND COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER I THINK WITH THE LEGISLATURE YOU NEVER SAY THAT ANYTHING IS COMPLETELY DEAD . THERE'S THERE'S ALWAYS SOME SORT OF ZOMBIE PROVISIONS THAT SEEM TO COME BACK.  THE THE PREEMPTION ISSUE WAS ONE OF THE SIGNIFICANT CONCERNS THAT CITIES HAD AND I THINK THE LEGISLATORS AT LEAST THE ONES WHO WERE WORKING ON THE LEGISLATION LAST YEAR HAVE RECOGNIZED THAT AND HAVE LARGELY MOVED AWAY FROM PREEMPTION, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE TRYING REALLY HARD TO TRY TO FIND COMMON GROUND BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT THE MESSAGE THAT'S BEEN MADE CLEAR TO CITIES IS THAT THE CITIES HAVE TO PROVIDE SOME SOMETHING RIGHT THIS SESSION IT WILL BE LESS EFFECTIVE TO JUST TRY TO OBSTRUCT BASED ON, YOU KNOW, THE LOCAL CONTROL ARGUMENT.  SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE WORKING REALLY HARD TO TRY AND FIND THAT COMMON GROUND.  BUT SO I'D SAY IT'S NOT DEAD BUT I THINK THE REALIZE IT'S REALLY PROBLEMATIC.  COUNCILMEMBER NELSON. MAYOR I WON'T TOUCH THE PREEMPTION ISSUE JUST THE SAKE OF THAT BECAUSE I HAVE A WHOLE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE BECAUSE . I DON'T THINK THERE IS SUCH A THING AS PREEMPTION IN THAT ISSUE BUT SOMETHING ELSE AND I SAW YOU GIVING SIDE I DURING THE CONVERSATION I DON'T WANT TO MAKE AN ASSUMPTION EITHER WAY BUT I JUST WANT TO SEE IF MY COLLEAGUES ARE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THE MAYOR'S SORT OF FAIR PLAN REINSURANCE AND WHAT'S GOING ON WITH MANY OF OUR MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS AND THEIR REINSURANCE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I THINK EVERYONE HAS GOTTEN INFORMATION THAT BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE IT SOUNDS ABSOLUTELY FOR MANY COMMUNITIES WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY.  THE THE COSTS THAT THEY'RE SUFFERING THEY'RE SO IF EVERYONE'S AWARE OF IT THEN THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO MAKE SURE IS I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT BECAUSE IT'S A SIGNIFICANT ISSUE AND I COUNCILMEMBER I LIKE THIS IS THE HIGH LEVEL DISCUSSION I THINK WE CAN GET INTO DEPTH IN THAT AS WE TALK ABOUT THESE IN THE FINAL FORM IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS HERE. HOW ABOUT THAT? THAT'S FINE. I JUST WANT TO HELP. OKAY.  ANYTHING ELSE?  WELL, WE WILL SEE IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS AND AS WE FORMALLY ADOPT THESE THANK YOU TO KATIE AND EMILY FOR JOINING  US AND STICKING IT OUT WITH US LATE INTO THE EVENING. I APPRECIATE AND IT'S EVEN LATER OUT ON THE EAST COAST SO THANK YOU, EMILY. IS SHE STILL WITH US? I AM. THANK YOU ALL. GOOD EVENING. HAVE A GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU TOO. THANKS AND IN 5.2 IN OUR AGENDA IS A DISCUSSION REGARDING MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING. NICK JOHNSON SPEAKING OF BACK ONCE AGAIN ZOMBIE HE'S BACK ONCE AGAIN TO TALK ABOUT THANK YOU MAYOR MEMBERS BREVITY,  ALACRITY, BREVITY, CLARITY AND BREVITY.  YES, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THESE ISSUES QUITE A BIT. THANKS FOR DISCUSSION ABOUT IT JUST A MOMENT AGO FROM THE STATE LEGISLATIVE PERSPECTIVE . THAT'S INTERESTING. SO JUST A QUICK AGENDA SLIDE ABOUT WHAT I PLAN TO TALK ABOUT BRIEFLY AND.  AGAIN, WE HAVE HAD A NUMBER OF DISCUSSIONS ABOUT HOUSING AND AFFORDABILITY AND, INFILL DEVELOPMENT AND ALL OF THESE THINGS AND THIS IS REALLY A NATURAL CONTINUATION OF THAT. SO THIS IS OUR FIRST OPPORTUNITY TO GET SOME ACTUAL SOLUTIONS IN FRONT OF YOU AND SEEK SOME ADDITIONAL GUIDANCE ON WHAT IS THE RIGHT FIT FOR BLOOMINGTON. SO JUST A REMINDER ABOUT ONE MISSING MENTAL HOUSING IN IS SO REALLY WHAT IT IS IS ALL HOUSING TYPES THAT ARE NOT SINGLE FAMILY THAT FIT BETWEEN THE SPECTRUM 80 USE ALL THE WAY UP TO SMALL APARTMENTS FOR THE OF OUR STUDY WE'RE CAPPING IT AT 20 UNITS THAT'S REALLY THE NATURAL BREAK FOR US IN TERMS OF ALIGNMENT WITH THE H.R IS MISSION AND GOALS IN TERMS OF THEIR RESPONSIBILITY LANE AND GOING ABOVE THAT IS JUST A PRODUCT TYPE OR A HOUSING TYPE THAT DOESN'T FIT AS WELL WITH MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING IN OUR VIEW MOST COMMON FORMS OF IT. WE'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH BEING TWO FAMILY DWELLINGS HERE IN BLOOMINGTON 80 YEARS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE CHALLENGES OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT AND DEPLOYMENT.  YOU DO SEE MORE TRIPLEXES AND QUADS IN MINNEAPOLIS AND SAINT PAUL AND A FEW OTHER CITIES IN THE STATE OF MINNESOTA. MANY OF THESE HOUSING TYPES WERE CONSTRUCTED 1940S OR EARLIER REALLY MORE RESTRICTIVE ZONING PRACTICES CAME INTO PLACE AT THAT TIME AND I THINK THE ONE MESSAGE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE LEARNED ABOUT TOPIC IS THAT IF YOU PUT ALL YOUR EGGS IN SINGLE FAMILY AND BASKET YOU'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE A LESS DIVERSE HOUSING STOCK THAT REALLY MEETS A WIDE VARIETY OF RESIDENTS NEEDS THROUGHOUT THE SPECTRUM OR THE ARC OF THEIR LIFE OR DIFFERENT LIFE CIRCUMSTANCES OR SITUATIONS OR DESIRES.  SO WHAT IS MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT TYPES. THE OTHER I WOULD URGE IS NOT TO GET TOO FIXATED ON ONE SPECIFIC KIND OR ANOTHER. THERE'S REALLY SOME THAT WE'RE REALLY FAMILIAR SOME THAT MAYBE FIT MORE IN THE LOW DEBT, LOW TO MEDIUM DENSITY AND THEN OTHERS THAT MAYBE FIT MORE ON THAT MEDIUM DENSITY THEY'RE MORE SIMILAR TO SMALL APARTMENTS SO WHY DO WE NEED MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING? WE HAD OTHER DATA THAT KIND OF PRESENTED A MORE NATIONAL PERSPECTIVE IN THE STAFF REPORT BUT THIS IS JUST A REMINDER ABOUT HOUSING COST BURDEN AND AFFORDABILITY TRENDS THAT ARE SPECIFIC TO BLOOMINGTON. SO THAT'S A KEY FEATURE OF THIS IS THAT PROVIDING MORE TOOLS LIKE THIS IS GOING TO GIVE NONPROFIT AND OTHER PARTNERS MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO CREATE AFFORDABLE HOMEOWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES IN BLOOMINGTON AS THEY LOOK AT WAYS OF DOING VARIOUS FORMS OF INFILL DEVELOPMENT.  ANOTHER REASON IS HAS TO DO WITH BLOOMINGTON'S DEMOGRAPHICS YOU THE FOURTH OLDEST CITY IN THE STATE WE DO NEED TO DIVERSIFY OUR HOUSING STOCK. WE DO HAVE A FAIR NUMBER OF TOWNHOMES TWO FAMILY DWELLINGS IN COMPARISON TO SOME OF OUR PEERS. BUT YOU ALWAYS NEED MORE OF THOSE HOUSING TYPES AND THEY'RE REALLY POPULAR. THE OF THOSE DOES NOT STICK FOR VERY LONG SO THOSE ARE KEY COMPONENTS OF THAT. I'LL KEEP CHUGGING ALONG HERE IN TERMS OF HOW SUCCESSFUL WE'VE BEEN AT GETTING SOME MIDDLE HOUSING TYPES BUILT IN THE LAST SEVEN YEARS, IT'S BEEN A CHALLENGE WE'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH OR I SHOULD SAY MANY OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE ZONING AMENDMENTS THAT OCCURRED LAST YEAR. ONE OF THE CHALLENGESF THAT EFFORT WAS THAT IT WAS ROLLED OUT IN A FAIRLY CHALLENGING CONSTRUCTION ENVIRONMENT IN TERMS OF THE COST OF BORROWING COST OF LABOR LAND. THOSE THINGS THE REGULATORY LANDSCAPE IS ONLY ONE SUBCOMPONENT OF KIND OF WHAT THE BARRIERS ARE TO HOUSING CREATION BUT REGARDLESS OF THE THE ENVIRONMENT WE STAFF WE AS STAFF STRONGLY FEEL THAT YOU WANT TO TRY WORK AHEAD OF THE NEXT OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE MORE OF THESE HOUSING TYPES.  SO WE'VE CREATED TWO FAMILY DWELLINGS INTERMITTENTLY THROUGHOUT THE SEVEN YEAR TIME PERIOD WE HAVE CONSTRUCTED A FEW NEW FAMILY HOMES.  MOST OF THOSE ARE REPLACING EXISTING HOMES HENCE THE NET NEW FIGURE THERE. BUT YEAH GENERALLY 19 NEW UNITS OVER THE COURSE OF 2017 WHEN FACTORING OUT THE DEMO, THE UNITS THAT WERE DEMOED TO CREATE THESE. SO THIS IS THE REALITY. THIS IS KIND OF WHAT WE ARE FACING AND WHAT WE'RE WORKING IN MANY WAYS EVEN JUST GETTING A FEW SITES DONE CAN SOMETIMES FEEL LIKE A MONUMENTAL TASK AT TIMES IT'S THE REALITY. SO HOW CAN WE ADD MISSING METAL HOUSING? SO MOVING ON TO KIND OF THE MEAT OF WHAT THIS DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WE REALLY HAVE DIFFERENT SOLUTIONS IN TWO DIFFERENT BUCKETS THE FIRST BUCKET OUR AMENDMENTS AND TWEAKS TO STANDARDS OF OURS AND THOSE THAT THESE AMENDMENTS ARE REALLY FOCUSED ON FURTHER UNLEASHING MORE OR LOWERING BARRIERS 80 EWES AND TWO FAMILY DWELLINGS ARE REALLY THE PRIMARY FOCUS OF THAT FIRST BUCKET. THE OTHER THING I'LL SAY ABOUT THE FIRST BUCKET IS THAT THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE VERY WELL KNOWN TO STAFF AND PROBABLY CAN PROCEED TO IF THERE'S SUPPORT FOR THEM TO AN ORDINANCE BEFORE A PUBLIC HEARING SETTING FAIRLY RAPIDLY. THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN PUT TOGETHER IN A MORE RAPID TIMELINE.  SECOND BUCKET ARE THINGS THAT WE'RE SEEKING YOUR GUIDANCE ON TONIGHT IN TERMS OF DIRECTIONALLY WHERE TO GO AND WE NEED TO DO A LITTLE BIT MORE ANALYSIS ON SOME OTHER MINUTE MISSING LITTLE HOUSING TYPES THAT WE BLOOMINGTON ARE A LITTLE BIT LESS FAMILIAR WITH. THE REASON I SAY THAT IT'S NOT CREATING ZONING STANDARDS BUT EVERY NEW USE WE CREATE AND WHERE ALLOW IT IS ALSO A CONVERSATION WITH OUR INFRASTRUCTURE PARTNERS AND WORKS ABOUT HOW TO SERVE THOSE NEW USE TYPES AND WHERE THERE IS ADEQUATE CAPACITY ON OUR STREETS AND OUR SANITARY SEWER SYSTEM AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS IN ORDER TO SERVE THESE HOUSING TYPES SO WE'RE HOPING IN THAT SECOND BUCKET TO GET SOME KIND OF GENERAL GUIDANCE AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO HIT THE GROUND RUNNING ON THAT AND GO FROM THERE SO THE FIRST BUCKET THESE ARE AMENDING EXISTING CODE STANDARDS AS I MENTIONED THESE THINGS ARE PRIMARILY FOCUSED ON HOW TO USE AND TO FAMILY DWELLINGS.  I WILL NOTE THAT FOR THE PURPOSES OF BREVITY AND THE WHAT WE DID WITH THE PLANNING AND HRA IS WE HAD THEM REVIEW EACH ONE OF THESE LINE BY LINE INDIVIDUALLY AND SO HOPEFULLY WHAT YOU NOTICED IN THE THE STAFF REPORT IN THESE TABLES ON THESE SLIDES ISIND OF WHERE THAT ALIGNMENT IS BUILT BETWEEN THE ADVISORY BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS WHO ARE FOCUSED ON THESE TOPICS AND IF IT'S OKAY WITH YOU I'LL PROCEED THROUGH THESE AND WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR IS JUST GENERAL SUPPORT FOR THESE SHARED DIRECTION BETWEEN THESE TWO BODIES. THERE'S QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY ONE OF THESE THINGS INDIVIDUALLY. I'M CERTAINLY TAKE THOSE QUESTIONS BUT WHAT WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FOR IS JUST AFFIRMATION THAT THIS IS THE RIGHT DIRECTION TO PROCEED IN AND THEN WE CAN GO FORWARD . SO THE FIRST COUPLE THE 82 OWNER OCCUPANCY I REQUIREMENT THIS HAS TO DO HAS TO DO WITH HOW MANY RENTAL LICENSES ARE PERMITTED A SITE WITHIN 80 YOU RIGHT NOW IT'S LIMITED TO ONE THE 82 PROPORTIONATE SIZE REQUIREMENT THIS CAPS HOW BIG AN 80 YOU CAN BE IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE PRINCIPAL DWELLING OF A SOME POTENTIAL SOLUTIONS THERE THE REAR YARD SETBACK SO CURRENTLY 80 USE ARE SUBJECT TO A PRINCIPAL DWELLING TO 30 FOOT REAR YARD SETBACK WE FOUND IN A COUPLE SITUATIONS THAT IT CAN BE QUITE PROHIBITIVE OR A BARRIER TO 80 CREATION ON SOME LOTS 80 FRONT PART FRONT YARD SETBACK AND PLACEMENT THIS WAS A DISCUSSION AT COUNCIL LIFE I WANT TO SAY TWO MISCELLANEOUS ISSUES CYCLES AGO AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT ALSO HAD SUPPORT FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND HRA AND THIS REALLY COULD AFFECT CORNER LOTS MOST NOTABLY AND THEN TWO FAMILY DWELLINGS IN THE R WELL I'LL JUST STOP THERE IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THESE PROVISIONS RELATED TO A2 USE LOTS OF QUESTIONS OR ANY GENERAL FEEDBACK ABOUT THAT FEEDBACK IN GENERAL COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO SORRY MR. MAYOR FEEDBACK QUESTIONS EITHER ARE OKAY ON THE FIRST ONE I WOULD NOT BE I NOT BE IN FAVOR OF THAT ONLY BECAUSE I'D REALLY LIKE US TO GET TO SHORT TERM RENTALS.  SO AS YOU ALL KNOW I'M A FAN OF THE SHORT TERM RENTAL AND ONE OF THE REASONS I'VE INDICATED MY SUPPORT FOR SHORT TERM RENTALS IS LARGELY BECAUSE OF THE OWNER OCCUPANCY LIKE THAT'S THE SCENARIO IN WHICH I FEEL COMFORTABLE DOING THAT IF WE DO THIS THEN WE REMOVE OUR ABILITY TO DO OWNER OCCUPIED USE AS A SHORT TERM RENTAL SO I JUST WANT TO PUT THOSE TWO THINGS TOGETHER FOR EVERYBODY. THAT'S WHY I WOULD OPPOSE THAT FIRST ONE THE SECOND ONE I ACTUALLY THINK THIS ONE IS REALLY VALUABLE TO ME. THERE ARE SEVERAL FOLKS IN MY DISTRICT WHO WOULD LIKE THE LIKE TO RENT OUT THEIR ADU BUT CAN'T BECAUSE IT HAS THE PROBLEM.  IN FACT IT'S ALMOST EXACTLY THE FOOTPRINT BECAUSE IT'S THE BASEMENT RIGHT IT'S SO THE ALMOST THE EXACT FOOTPRINT OF THE UPSTAIRS OF THE HOUSE AND SO I WOULD NOT BE IN FAVOR OF THE MAXIMUM STANDARD SIZE BUT I THINK IF WE COULD IF WE COULD SPECIFICALLY DEFINE SOMETHING IF IT'S IF IT'S A SPECIFIC LIKE A BASEMENT ADU AN INDWELLING ADU IF IT'S THE SAME SIZE IT MIGHT BE OKAY OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT.  SO THOSE ARE THE TWO THE REST OF THEM HERE I THINK I CAN SUPPORT JUST FINE THANK YOU OTHERS THAT'S COUNCILMEMBER YEAH THANKS MAYOR I'M GOING TO HAVE TO THINK ABOUT COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO COMMENTS ON THE FIRST ONE BECAUSE I DIDN'T SEE THAT EITHER SIDE IS TAKING AWAY THE LIMITATION BUT NOT FORCING YOU TO RENT OUT THE WHOLE PLACE. IT JUST PROVIDES THE OPPORTUNITY SO YOU COULD STILL HAVE YOUR HOUSE IN AN IDEA OR YOU COULD OUT THE HOUSE AND THE IDEA IT'S OPTIONAL.  SO I DIDN'T SEE IT THAT WAY BUT MAYBE I'M MISSING SOMETHING.  THE SECOND ONE IS NUMBER FIVE TO FAMILY. MY ONLY QUESTION ON THAT IS I MEAN THE PURPOSE OF THE THREE IS TO GET ADDITIONAL HOUSING UNITS AND IS THAT SORT OF A STEP BACKWARDS? I MIGHT AS WELL JUST REZONE IT TO OUR ONE AT THAT POINT. YEAH. THANK YOU, MAYOR COUNCILMAN NELSON SO JUST TO PROVIDE A LITTLE HEADS UP ON THE ITEM NUMBER FIVE THAT'S LISTED IN THIS TABLE CURRENTLY, IT'S REALLY JUST INTENDED TO PROVIDE MORE FLEXIBILITY AMONG THE DEVELOPMENTS SO YOU CAN ENVISION A SCENARIO WHERE A TOWNHOME DEVELOPER WANTED TO CREATE A TOWNHOME WITH TRADITIONAL TOWNHOMES OR OTHER MIDDLE HOUSING TYPES BUT THEN OFF ON THE SIDE DO A SERIES OF TWO FAMILY DWELLINGS. CURRENTLY IT'S NOT AN ALLOWED USE IN THIS DISTRICT SO IT'S REALLY JUST I MEAN THEY THEORETICALLY COULD KEEP THAT PORTION ZONED R-1 SO THAT MIGHT BE A POTENTIAL SOLUTION BUT BASICALLY THERE'S A THEME FOR MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING IT'S MORE FLEXIBILITY LESS HURDLES. IN GENERAL, COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS IT'S A QUESTION I AM AFTER THE MAPS AND ALL THE INFORMATION YOU PROVIDED I'M A LITTLE MORE FAMILIAR WITH THIS. I DO HAVE A QUESTION ARE THERE ANY PLANS FOR SPECIFIC AREAS IN THE CITY TO TO CREATE THESE MIDDLE HOUSING? HOW DO YOU SO IT'S A DUAL QUESTION ACTUALLY.  ARE YOU PLANNING ON GOING AHEAD WITH THIS AFTER THE IMPROVEMENTS UNDER THE WATER AND SEWER SYSTEMS ARE NEEDED? IT'S I CAN'T IMAGINE IN AREAS THAT ARE ALL HOUSES TO ADD THESE EXTRA CAPACITY ALREADY HAS THE CAPACITY ALREADY BNG CONSIDERED WITH THESE OR STILL UP IN THE AIR. YEAH MAYOR COUNCILOR RUIZ, THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. SO PARTICULARLY ITEMS AND BUCKET NUMBER ONE THAT WE'LL DISCUSS BUCKET NUMBER TWO IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT ANSWER BUT BUCKET NUMBER ONE MOST OF THESE THINGS ARE APPLICABLE TO THE R-1 ZONING DISTRICT WHICH IS GEOGRAPHICALLY DISTRIBUTED THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.  IT'S BASICALLY ALL SINGLE AND TWO FAMILY DWELLINGS ARE ZONED R ONE IN THE CITY SO THAT'S THAT'S REALLY THE WHOLE OF THE CITY. WELL THANKFULLY ON THE SECOND QUESTION RELATED TO CAPACITY INFRASTRUCTURE, YOU KNOW MOST OF THESE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS ARE NOT OF A DENSITY OR SCALE THAT REALLY DRIVE A LOT OF THAT SANITARY SEWER CAPACITY OR OTHER CHALLENGES MAYBE TRAFFIC TO A DEGREE.  SO I DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE'LL LOOK AT PARTICULARLY WITH THOSE TYPES THAT DO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE DENSITY ASSOCIATED WITH THEM OR IS WHAT THEY WOULD REFER TO AS GENTLE DENSITY.  BUT THAT'S REALLY MORE IN THAT SECOND BUCKET AND THAT INVOLVES REZONING TYPICALLY AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN KIND OF THE DISCRETION THAT OFFERS THE CITY TO EVALUATE EACH DEVELOPMENT ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.  YEP. I'M GOING TO MOVE ON HERE SO IF I CAN JUST.  THANK YOU. MAYOR, CAN I MAKE ONE LAST POINT JUST ABOUT THE RENTAL PIECE AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THAT AND THE REASON THAT STAFF A IS JUST THAT THIS THE POTENTIAL TO STIMULATE MORE CREATIVE CREATION AND FRANKLY THE REASON BEING IS THAT SOME PROPERTY OR SOME OWNERS WHO HAVE A RENTAL LICENSE WHO RENT OUT THEIR PROPERTY MIGHT INCENTIVIZED TO CREATE AN 80 YOU IF THEY CAN RENT OUT BOTH STRUCTURES SO THAT'S ONE COMPONENT OF IT. THE OTHER COMPONENT IS JUST THAT FROM A FROM IMPACTS STANDPOINT STAFF USE IT AS EQUAL OR LESSER AS A TWO FAMILY DWELLING IF YOU CAN GET TWO RENTAL LICENSES AT A TWO FAMILY DWELLING. FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE IT'S FAIRLY EQUIVALENT TO TO DO IT WITH AN EIGHT OF YOU THAT'S JUST OURS. I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE DIFFERENT CHARACTERISTICS VERSUS A SIDE BY SIDE OR AN UP OR DOWN VERSUS THE SMALLER DRAWING IN THE BACK. SO THERE'S GOING TO BE DIFFERENT LITTLE NUANCES IT BUT JUST TO GIVE YOU THAT BACKGROUND ON THE SHORT TERM RENTAL, I THINK THAT THAT IS MORE CAPPED BY THE LENGTH OF STAY VERSUS WHO'S WHO'S STAYING IN AND HOW MANY UNITS. BUT I WELCOME YOUR FEEDBACK.  YES, THAT'S FAIR. I WON'T BELABOR IT BUT I THINK I THINK THAT THERE'S AN UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE THERE WHEN WE TALKS ABOUT SHORT TERM RENTALS, PEOPLE I THINK THE OVERWHELMING SUPPORT FOR SHORT TERM RENTALS IN UNDER RESIDENCES WAS A BIG NO HERE AND SO WE'RE BASICALLY JUST SHUTTING DOWN SHORT TERM RENTALS FOR ANYTHING THAT HAS ONE OR TWO PROPERTIES. IF YOU CAN'T YOU'RE NOT OCCUPYING THEM AND THAT'S THE REASON I DID QUESTION ABOUT WHO WOULD BE FIRST TO BUILD AN YOU SOMEBODY WHO WOULD BE LIKE TO RENT FOR THE LONG TERM OR SOMEBODY WHO WOULD LIKE TO RENT IT FOR THE SHORT TERM. I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. CERTAINLY TO KEEP TRACK AND AND FOLLOW UP ON SO GET INTO THE SECOND THIS IS THE REMAINDER OF THE ITEMS AND BUCKET NUMBER ONE WHICH IS KIND OF AMENDMENTS TO EXISTING CODE . SO THESE ARE MORE FOCUSED TO FAMILY. SO ALLOWING CURRENTLY TWO FAMILY DWELLINGS MUST HAVE ATTACHED GARAGES ALLOWING FOR DETACHED GARAGE IS TO SERVE AT TWO FAMILY DWELLING SITES GARAGE SETBACKS SET OR GARAGES ARE SUBJECT TO DIFFERENT STANDARDS THAN SINGLE FAMILY SITES GARAGES ON CORNER LOTS NOW IT REQUIRES DIRECTING THE DRIVEWAYS ON A CORNER SITE FOR A TWO FAMILY DWELLING TO TWO DIFFERENT LOCAL ROADS.  SO AGAIN IT'S JUST KIND OF INHIBITING THAT CREATIVE DESIGN COMPONENT TO FAMILY LOT SIZE REQUIREMENTS. SO OF THE ELEMENTS OF THE AMENDMENTS WE DID IN MAY OF 2023 IS THAT IT REALLY WAS ENVISIONING HOW MOST SIDE SIDE TWO FAMILY DWELLINGS ARE CONSTRUCTED IN BLOOMINGTON IN ADDITION TO PROVIDING ADDITIONAL SET BACK REQUIREMENTS FOR GARAGES AND OTHER.  AND SO THE REALLY IS IF WE'RE LOOKING AT KIND OF INDUSTRY BEST STANDARD OR SOME OF THE DATA FROM SOME OF OUR PEERS, THERE IS AN ABILITY TO LOWER THAT EVEN A LITTLE BIT LOWER TO BRING MORE AS POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR TWO FAMILY DWELLING DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE REALLY WHAT IT'S NOT ACCOUNTING FOR IS THE POSSIBILITY OF UP DOWN TO FAMILY DWELLINGS SO THAT'S ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY IS JUST TO LOWER SOME OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS LANDSCAPING THIS IS LOWER VOLTAGE ONE BUT CURRENTLY WE HAVE LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS TWO FAMILY DWELLINGS WE DON'T DO THAT FOR SINGLE FAMILY. I LOVE TREES AND SHRUBS IT'S NOT AGAINST TREES AND SHRUBS THING IT'S A AMOUNT OF STAFF IT TAKES AND THE FINANCIAL SURETIES THAT ARE REQUIRED TO EXECUTE IT NOT MEETING THE COST BENEFIT THERE THE LAST ONE ON THE OUR THREE DENSITY RANGE WE'LL TALK ABOUT OUR THREE MORE IN THE SECOND BUCKET BUT RIGHT NOW WHEN WE SINCE WE AMENDED OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO INCREASE THE DENSITY OF THE LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL CATEGORY UP TO 12 UNITS PER ACRE RIGHT NOW THE R THREE IS CAPPED AT EIGHT UNITS PER ACRE AND THAT MIGHT BE OR THE RIGHT APPROACH GIVEN THE HOUSING TYPES THAT ARE ALLOWED AND COULD BE ALLOWED THERE IN THE FUTURE IT MIGHT GOOD TO HAVE THAT CAPPED AT EIGHT BUT ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT IS POTENTIALLY INCREASING THAT TO 12 TO JUST ALIGN WITH THAT CATEGORY.  THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT YOU KNOW RECENT TOWNHOME PROJECTS IN TOWN AND LIKE WHAT THE DENSITY MIGHT HAVE LOOKED LIKE ON SOME OF THOSE.  AND SO IT WAS IT WAS BACK AND FORTH. THIS IS WHERE I WOULD SAY THE ONLY ITEM IN THE FIRST BUCKET WERE THE PLANNING COMMISSION HRA WERE MORE ON THE FENCE SO JUST TO REPORT THAT OUT BUT IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS BUCKET HERE THIS SLIDE OTHERWISE I CAN KEEP GOING IF THERE'S GENERAL COUNCIL SUPPORT FOR THESE ITEMS LET'S REMEMBER CARTER AND THEN COUNCILMEMR LOWMAN.  SO I ASKED THIS QUESTION BEFORE AND I KNOW YOU ANSWERED ME BUT I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY SO FOR THIS BUCKET STAFF WOULD YOU'VE ALREADY PUT IT ON YOUR 2025 WORK PLAN THAT YOU'LL BE WORKING ON MISSING HOUSING?  CORRECT. SO ANYTHING ON THIS IF WE'RE LIKE YEP GOOD TO GO YOU WOULD JUST CONSIDER THAT PART OF THAT PROJECT WHICH YOU'VE ALREADY ACCOUNTED FOR FOR STAFF TIME AND CAPACITY YEAH. MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER CARTER THAT'S CORRECT. SO WE ARE WILL BE AT YOUR MEETING ON JANUARY 6TH AND WILL PRESENT THE WORK PLAN ONE OF MY FAVORITE ITEMS TO PRESENT YOU GOOD.  AND WE ARE ANTICIPATING A CARRYOVER OF MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING SO ANYTHING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THERE SHOULD BE ADEQUATE STAFF CAPACITY THERE'S STAFF WE'RE EXCITED TO WORK ON THIS PROJECT NEXT YEAR AND YOU KNOW GIVEN THE CLARITY OF THAT LEGISLATION NOT MOVING FORWARD I THINK WE HAVE MORE MOMENTUM OR ENERGY OF JUST WHAT WE NEED TO DO AT THE CITY LEVEL AND NOT WAIT FOR THE STATE.  SO YES, WE HAVE WE SHOULD HAVE ADEQUATE CAPACITY.  I ASK BECAUSE I DO FEEL LIKE IT'S USUALLY THE PLANNING COMMISSION WORK PLAN THAT WE'RE LIKE LET'S DO IT AND THEN WE'RE LIKE OKAY BUT THEN WHAT ARE WE TAKING OFF OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR THE PLANNING WORK PLAN? AND SO JUST WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BEING COGNIZANT OF THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD. GREAT. THANK YOU.  THANK YOU. I'LL TRY TO ASK REAL QUICK QUESTIONS HERE.  SO I IMAGINE WITH ALL OF THESE ITEMS HERE THAT WE'RE SEEING OTHER CITIES AROUND HERE AND ACROSS THE COUNTRY, THESE ARE SUCCESSFUL PROPOSALS.  THEY COULD WORK AND OF TRYING TO SUCCEED WITH OUR MISSING LITTLE YEAH.  MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN THANKS FOR THAT QUESTION. SO I THINK THE ITEMS THAT WE'RE KIND OF IDENTIFYING FOR YOU IN THIS FIRST BUCKET ARE MORE BLOOMINGTON SPECIFIC.  THEY'RE LESS PEER REVIEWED. AND THE REASON I SAY THAT IS THAT IT'S REALLY IN THE WEEDS OF THE BLOOMINGTON ZONING CODE . THESE ARE ALREADY THINGS THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED AS A STAFF AND WORKING ON REAL PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN AN IMPEDIMENT OR BARRIER. SO IT'S PROBABLY THAT SECOND BUCKET WHERE MORE OF THAT PEER CITY RESEARCH IS HAPPENING HERE WITHIN THIS REGION AS YOU KNOW MINNEAPOLIS AND PAUL HAVE BOTH ELEVATED THEIR LOW DENSITY DISTRICT UP TO FOUR AND THREE UNITS RESPECTIVELY. MANY CITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY ARE GOING IN THAT DIRECTION AS WELL. THERE'S ALSO BEEN KNOW IN SOME CASES LITIGATION AGAINST THOSE TYPES OF POLICY DECISIONS BUT AS LONG AS IT'S WELL BUTTRESSED AND FOUNDED IN YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WHICH IT IS STRONGLY IN THE BLOOMINGTON COMP PLAN AND CERTAINLY ANTICIPATE WILL BE A FEATURE OF 2050 PLAN AS LONG AS WE CONTINUE TO BUILD THOSE POLICY BLOCKS UNDERNEATH IT AND THERE'S ADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE HERE TO SERVE THE DEVELOPMENT, I THINK THAT'S REALLY THE KEY FEATURE AND SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT GETTING AHEAD IN THE NEXT BUCKET IS WORKING TOWARDS IS MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THOSE PROTECTIONS IN PLACE AND I'VE LONG ADVOCATED THAT YOU KNOW SOME OF THE YOU KNOW THEY CALL IT GENTLE DENSITY BUT WE ADD MORE PEOPLE IN AN AREA YOU KNOW THERE IS A HIGHER POTENTIAL FOR SOME NUISANCE BUT THE GREAT THING ABOUT BLOOMINGTON IS THAT THEY HAVE JUST CRACK ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH SQUAD WHO DEAL WITH A LOT OF YOU KNOW, VEHICLES ON A SITE OR A PROPERTY MAINTENANCE . I THINK THAT'S THE PART THAT YOU'VE KIND OF HIT ON THAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT.  SO I WANT TO, YOU KNOW, MOVE IN THIS DIRECTION BUT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. SO LET ME JUST ASK A COUPLE OF ASK QUESTIONS HERE. THE SO I THINK CUSTOMER A AND I WERE IN A IN A CLASS AT THE NLC AND THEY WERE TALKING WHETHER THESE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CITIES ARE STARTING TO DO IS THEY ARE LOOKING AT PRE-APPROVAL FOR FOR SITE PLANS TO TO NOT ONLY ALLOW THOSE LARGER DEVELOPERS KIND OF GET IN THERE BE ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT BUT ALSO THESE SMALLER DEVELOPERS TO BE ABLE TO GET INTO THE SPACE BECAUSE A SPACE WHERE THOSE DEVELOPERS YOU KNOW HAVE YOU HEARD THAT AT ALL OR IS THAT SOMETHING YOU'VE HEARD? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S IS THAT A TACTIC THAT WE'RE UTILIZING? THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION, MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SO THAT A TACTIC THAT SOME CITIES ARE USING MOST OF THE PRE-APPROVED APPROVED THAT I'VE SEEN ARE TYPICALLY IN DENSER CITIES THAT ARE ALLEY LOADED TYPE NEIGHBORHOODS.  AND SO I THINK THE AND WE'LL CHECK ON THIS AGAIN BUT AARP HAS BEEN A HUGE SUPPORTER OF MISSING HOUSING AND THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON TRYING TO CREATE DIFFERENT TEMPLATES AND DOCUMENTS. THE THING IS THA THAT YOU ALMOST HAVE TO CREATE A JURISDICTION SPECIFIC TEMPLATE PLAN BECAUSE EVERY SAID HE'S GOING TO HAVE DIFFERENT STORMWATER MANAGER AND EVERY CITY IS GOING TO HAVE DIFFERENT UTILITY REQUIREMENTS OR DRIVEWAYS, OTHER THINGS. SO IT'S SOMETHING WE COULD LOOK AT. IT WILL COST MONEY WELL WE COULD TAKE THAT OFFLINE AND TALK ABOUT THAT'S MY LAST ONE IS SO THIS IS JUST MORE OF A EDUCATIONAL THING ON MY HAND OR MY IDEA AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE STAYING THERE. SO LET'S LOOK AT THIS 11 THE D3 QUOTIENT. SO I'M ASSUMING THAT IF WE HAVE THOSE 8 TO 12 UNITS ON A SITE THAT YOU WOULDN'T ALSO BE ABLE TO ADD 80 USE TO THAT, RIGHT. I MEAN THAT WOULD THAT WOULD PRECLUDE THAT ABILITY TO DO THAT OR AM I WRONG WITH THAT OR IF YOU HAVE LIKE A YOU KNOW ON THE OTHER PAGE WE HAD THE YOU KNOW YOU DO A DUPLEX.  WOULD THAT PRECLUDE FROM HAVING 80 YOU OR COULD YOU HAVE A DO YOU JUST HELP ME TO UNDERSTAND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE MAYOR CUSTOMER RELATIONS WILL BE A FUN TIME WHEN I TALK OUT OF BOTH SIDES OF MY HEAD ABOUT I JUST SAID FLEXIBILITY IS THE KEY ANY USE ARE NOT ALLOWED IN ARE THREE AND THE REASON BEING IS THOSE ARE REALLY A DEVELOPMENT TYPE THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE ACCESSORY TO A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING OR A LOW DENSITY SITE IN EFFECT OUR THREE IS MORE INTENDED TO BE A MEDIUM DENSITY DISTRICT SO IT ALLOWS TOWNHOMES WELL THERE'S THERE'LL BE SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT MIDDLE TYPES TO POTENTIALLY ALLOW THERE BUT THOSE ARE NOT A YES OR NO WOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO BE ADDED ON TO HAVE A DUPLEX ON A SITE.  THERE WAS ENOUGH SPACE I COULD DO TO YOU THAT'S HOMES ARE NOT CURRENTLY ALLOWED A TWO FAMILY SITE EITHER RIGHT NOW THAT'S IN THE STANDARDS THE 80 YEARS YEAH SO THANK YOU YOU BET OKAY SO I'LL MOVE ON COUNCIL THANK YOU MAYOR SO THIS IS THE NEW STANDARD SO ON THIS COMPONENT SO AS I MENTIONED ON THE FIRST TWO BUCKETS ARE THE FIRST BUCKET THOSE LAST TWO SLIDES THOSE ARE REALLY THINGS THAT ARE IN CAN AND READY TO GO IF THEY'RE SUPPORTED THEY'RE THINGS THAT WE KNOW HOW TO CHANGE AND WHAT KIND OF INFRASTRUCTURE IMPACTS ARE AND HOW TO PROCEED WITH AN ORDINANCE THAT'S THESE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FOR YOUR MORE DIRECTION TO DO ADDITIONAL RESEARCH AND ANALYSIS OF OUR CODE OF WHAT TO I'LL BE FRANK THAT THIS WILL LIKELY REQUIRE US TO COME IN SOME TYPE OF STUDY SESSION FORMAT BECAUSE THESE THESE ORDINANCE WOULD BE MORE COMPLEX AND WOULD REALLY NEED YOUR FEEDBACK PRIOR TO WANTING TO A PUBLIC HEARING SO JUST THINKING ABOUT THAT BUT DIFFERENTLY AS WELL. SO IN THE FIRST TWO ITEMS TOWNHOMES LOW DENSITY OUR PLAN CALLS FOR ALLOWING LOW DENSITY IN OUR LOW DENSITY DISTRICTS. SO WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE?  THAT COULD LOOK LIKE A COTTAGE COURT. IT COULD LOOK LIKE, YOU KNOW, TWO OR THREE SMALL DETACHED TOWNHOMES ON A ON A R-1 ONE SITE. SO WHEN DESCRIBING THAT IN THOSE TERMS THAT USE WAS SUPPORTED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND HRA SIMILAR IN OUR THREE OUR THREE ALREADY ALLOWS TOWNHOMES WE PRETTY RIGID TOWNHOME STANDARDS RIGHT NOW IN TERMS OF REQUIRING ATTACHMENT AND THE CERTAIN NUMBER OF UNITS THAT IT MUST HAVE SO A NOTE ON 112 THIS IS AND TWO THERE ON THAT SLIDE SORRY ABOUT THAT BUT IT'S IN EFFECT ALLOWING SOME FORM OF DETACHED TOWNHOMES ON THE THIRD AND FOURTH ONE I'M SORRY THE THIRD ONE A MULTIPLEX A MULTIPLEX IS BASICALLY A SMALL APARTMENT BUILDING AND SO THERE IS DISCUSSION ABOUT WHETHER NOT AND IT'S CAPPED AT GREATER THAN FOUR UNITS BUT LESS THAN 15. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S AN APPROPRIATE USE FOR THE THREE DISTRICT OR OUR FOUR OR OUR 12 DISTRICT ARE IN 12 ALREADY ALLOWS MULTI-FAMILY ARE THREE DOES NOT SO FOR EXAMPLE IF YOU CAP THE NUMBER OF UNITS IN A SMALL EFFECTIVELY APARTMENT BUILDING DOES THAT THEN MAKE IT A GOOD CANDIDATE FOR A MEDIUM DENSITY DISTRICT AND THE OTHER REASON TO DO THAT IS THAT ARE LARGER MULTIFAMILY BUILDINGS ARE SUBJECT TO BY COMPARISON FAIRLY STANDARDS RELATED TO ENCLOSED PARKING AND STORAGE AND OTHER THINGS THAT REALLY ARE MORE WARRANTED FOR HIGHER DENSITY SITES.  THE HEIGHT LIMITS MAP SOME OF MISSING MIDDLE TYPES ARE THREE STORIES IN HEIGHT YOU'VE SEEN THAT KIND OF AROUND THE COUNTRY IS ONE WAY TO BUILD IN MORE DENSITY IS TO ALLOW FOR A LITTLE BIT TALLER BUILDINGS THAT'S SUPPORTED FROM A SUSTAINABILITY STANDPOINT BECAUSE YOU CAN HAVE SMALLER FOOTPRINTS IT'S CALLED THE STACK FLATS IS REALLY WHAT THAT IS AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS TO LOOK AT AND THERE MIGHT BE A PROJECT ON THIS PREVIEW ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION WORKPLAN NOT SPECIFIC TO MISSING MIDDLE TYPES BUT SHOULD THE CITY EVALUATE ITS HEIGHT LIMITS MAP WHICH EFFECTIVELY CAPS HEIGHT AT TWO STORIES OR 40 FEET FOR ALL OF OUR LOW DENSITY AREAS?  LIVE WORK LIVE WORK IS A THING THAT WAS ADOPTED INTO THE COVID 19 AS PART OF OUR INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT UPDATES.  RIGHT NOW LIVE WORK IS ONLY LIMITED TO INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICTS SO THINK OF THE CABINET MAKER WITH SOMEONE WHO OWNS A SHOP AND THEY WANT TO CREATE A SMALL APARTMENT IN THE BACK RIGHT NOW THAT'S LIMITED TO INDUSTRIAL SO ONE OF THE WAYS TO POTENTIALLY INCREASE HOUSING IN OF A MIXED USE FORMAT WOULD BE TO ALSO ALLOW LIVE WORK IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS THAT'S YOUR B TO YOUR BEFORE THOSE TYPES OF SITES SO I'LL PAUSE THERE ALL OF THOSE THINGS HAD SOME SUPPORT THE PLANNING COMMISSIONER NATURE THE ONLY MAYBE ON THAT WAS TO MORE THAN ONE UNIT AS A LIVE WORK IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL BUT I THINK THESE THINGS THE NEXT SLIDE MAYBE DIGS MORE HEAVY INTO THE OTHER MINUTE MISSING METAL TYPES BUT I'LL PAUSE HERE COUNCILMEMBER NELSON THANK YOU JUST A QUICK QUESTION WOULD ITEM NUMR THREE WOULD THAT BE A POSSIBLE WAY TO ENCOURAGE MORE CONDO TYPE DEVELOPMENT WHERE YOU COULD DO OWNER OCCUPIED ADD SIMILAR TO LIKE A TOWNHOME BUT MAYBE YOU COULD GET A FEW MORE UNITS INTO A CONDO. YEAH. MAYOR THANK YOU COUNCILMAN NELSON FOR THAT QUESTION.  SO THAT IS ONE OF THE HONOR TO DO LIST OF AS AN ADDITIONAL STEP OF RESEARCH IS TALKING ABOUT OWNERSHIP MODELS FOR THESE MISSING TYPES THAT ARE NOT SIDE BY SIDE OR LAND BASED . YOU KNOW WE'RE FINDING MORE PROBLEMS WITH HOMES BUT THAT'S MORE HISTORIC OR OLDER HOUSES. SO THAT'S KIND OF  COMPONENT OF IT AND WE HAVE THE STATE STATUTORY, YOU KNOW, RESTRICTIONS OR LIMITS. HOWEVER, IF YOU'RE DOING IT IN A SMALLER SCALE PROJECT I WOULD THINK THAT THOSE CAPITAL OR REQUIREMENTS IS LESSER SO IT'S PROBABLY MORE FEASIBLE AND THINK THAT HAS BEEN DONE IN LINDEN HILLS AND OTHER NORTHEAST MINNEAPOLIS AND OTHER UPSCALE LOWER DENSITY AREAS. I GUESS I WOULD DESCRIBE THAT AS SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT AND I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO ANSWERING THIS QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THESE TYPES MORE OWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES. SO THAT'S WHY WE CAN DEFINITELY BRING BACK OKAY ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS OR ANYTHING THAT GIVES KIND OF SIGNIFICANT PAUSE? I GUESS I'D SAY ONE THING I FORGOT TO SAY ABOUT THE BUCKET WHICH IS CRITICAL SO YOU'LL NOTICE A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS ARE EITHER ALLOW IN OUR ONE OR ALLOW IT IN OUR THREE OR FOUR. I JUST WANT TO REMIND THE COUNCIL THAT ANY ACTION THAT WE ONLY HAVE ONE SITE THAT ZONED OUR THREE IN THE WHOLE CITY WE HAVE SOME OUR FOURS BUT THOSE ARE HISTORIC APARTMENTS BASICALLY ARE OLDER APARTMENTS THEY'RE NOT HISTORIC THEY'RE JUST A LITTLE BIT OLDER APARTMENTS AND ANY TIME THE CITY HAS REZONING LAND THAT'S A HIGHLY DISCRETIONARY ACTION THE PART OF THE COUNCIL. SO ONE WAY TO THINK ABOUT SOME OF THESE MISSING MIDDLE TYPES IS THAT IF LIMITED TO OUR THREE OR ABOVE THAT'S GOING TO INVOLVE A REZONING.  AND SO THAT GIVES YOU THE DISCRETION OF COUNCILMEMBER THIS QUESTION ABOUT WHERE DO YOU IT AND DOES IT HAVE THE APPROPRIATE INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE THAT WHENEVER THERE'S A REZONING ACTION THE CITY COUNCIL GOING TO HAVE WIDE LATITUDE AND DISCRETION ON HOW THEY ACT ON THAT APPLICATION?  I DO WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT OKAY KEEP MOVING FORWARD THINK SO ON THIS LAST SLIDE THIS WHERE I THINK WE HIT MORE PAUSE ON THE PART OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND HRA AND I THINK THAT MADE SOME SENSE BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S INVITING LITTLE BIT MORE OF THAT DENSITY INTO AREAS THAT ARE PREDOMINANTLY FAMILY . SO I'M LOOKING AT A STACK FLATS USE POTENTIALLY IN THE R3 ARE WELL NOT IN OUR ONE BUT LOOKING AT IT IN OUR THREE OR OUR 12 AND I THINK THE THE ON THE FENCE ASPECT OF THIS I'M JUST CAPTURING THEIR DISCUSSION CORRECTLY WAS HAD TO DO WITH BUILDING HEIGHT SO STACKED FLATS TYPICALLY ARE THREE STORIES IN HEIGHT AND HAVING DISCUSSION AROUND WHETHER WHERE IT'S APPROPRIATE TO HAVE THAT TYPE OF USE COURTYARD APARTMENTS ALSO VERY SIMILAR TO MULTIPLEX IT'S SIMILAR TO APARTMENTS BUT IT ALLOWS ENTRIES INTO A COURTYARD AS OPPOSED TO A AS OPPOSED TO A SINGLE ENTRANCE LOBBY WITH YOU KNOW, EXITING TYPICAL EGRESS LIKE YOU'D HAVE IN A MULTIFAMILY AND THOSE WERE BOTH MAYBES ON BOTH PARTIES TRIPLEX IN OUR ONE SO THOSE WERE EITHER AS A PERMITTED OR CONDITIONAL USE THAT WAS NOT SUPPORTED BY THE PLANNING NATURE BOARD AND THE SAME FOR THE FOUR PLEX USE IN OUR ONE YOU COULD POTENTIALLY ALLOW THOSE IN OUR THREE.  I THINK YOU TWO HAD A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT RESPONSE RELATED TO OUR THREE FOR THAT DISTRICT THAT'S MORE MEDIUM DENSITY IT WOULDN'T AS AS A PLANNER WOULDN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME TO ALLOW A LARGE TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENT BUT NOT ALLOW A TRIPLEX IF THAT MAKES SENSE IN THAT DISTRICT. SO I TOOK THIS FEEDBACK TO BE MORE GEARED TOWARDS OUR ONE SINGLE FAMILY SO HOPEFULLY THAT MAKES SOME SENSE BUT YEAH HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND AGAIN THIS THIS SLIDE IN THE LAST IS REALLY INTENDED TO GIVE US THE MARCHING ORDERS FOR WHAT USES WE SHOULD BE TRYING TO CREATE AND WHAT STANDARDS AND WHERE WOULD THEY BE ALLOWED IN OUR EXISTING ZONING DISTRICTS ?  WELL I DON'T KNOW THE COUNCIL THOUGHTS BUT I, I JUST LOOKING AT THE LAST COUPLE OF SLIDES I TEND TO AGREE WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN THE HRA I MIGHT GO ON THIS SLIDE BEYOND MAYBE AND I WOULD SAY SUPPORTIVE WITH THE STACK AND PERHAPS THE MISSING MIDDLE COURTYARD JUST BECAUSE I THINK THEY ALLOW LITTLE BIT MORE CREATIVITY AND FLEXIBILITY AND WOULD PERHAPS GET A DEVELOPER THINKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW THEY COULD HOW THEY COULD DO THIS.  THAT WOULD BE MY THOUGHT. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON YEAH, I WOULD AGREE YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS AND ACTUALLY WHAT WAS ON ALL OF THESE PARTICULARLY WITH THE IF THERE ARE THREE AND WE HAVE DISCRETION AND WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF OUR THREE SO SOMEONE COULD BRING AN IDEA FORTH WE COULD TAKE LOOK AT IT AND WE COULD SAY HEY YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU CAN'T PUT A THREE STOREY THING NEXT TO YOU KNOW, THIS WHOLE BUNCH OF RAMBLERS RIGHT NEXT DOOR ONE STOREY HOUSES, YOU KNOW, THAT JUST DOESN'T FEEL OR WE COULD TAKE AND LOOK AT IT AND GO SINCE GREP SEEMS LIKE A REALLY GOOD USE OF IT SO BECAUSE WE HAVE THAT DISCRETION I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF ALL OF THOSE IN OUR THREE IN THE ARE THREE AREAS YEAH.  OTHER THOUGHTS BECAUSE REMEMBER I MEAN I THINK THIS GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SOME OF THOSE YOU KNOW, SOME OF THOSE MAJOR ROADS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, LIKE PENN AVENUE AND SOME THOSE PLACES WHERE MAYBE OUR OUR ONE DOESN'T MAKE SENSE ANYMORE ACROSS THE CITY AND KIND OF LOOK AT SOME OF THIS. SO I WOULD I WOULD TEND TO AGREE WITH THAT IN TERMS OF WE COULD LOOK AT THAT AND YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY AS WE'RE AS WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME OF THOSE STREETS WHERE WE HAVE OUR THAT CAPACITY OF TRAFFIC THAT'S THERE ONE OF THE WAYS OF KIND OF PROTECTING THE THE OTHER PARTS OF THE SAID IS TO HAVE THIS KIND OF AS A AS A BUFFER BETWEEN BETWEEN THIS AND THE OTHER RESIDENTIAL ZONES.  SO YEAH, I THINK THIS IS AN INTERESTING WAY TO KIND OF LOOK AT IT SO OTHER THOUGHTS.  THANK YOU, MAYOR.  I THINK I CAN JUST PRESENT ONE LAST SLIDE HERE ABOUT OUR PROCESS SO.  THIS IS WHAT WE'VE DONE SO FAR AND WHAT WE PLAN TO DO NEXT. ONE QUESTION WE WANTED TO PUT BEFORE YOU IT'S A PROCESS QUESTION BUT IF WE IF THERE IS GENERAL CONSENSUS OR ALIGNMENT AROUND THOSE PHASE ONE OR THE FIRST BUCKET CHANGES TO EXISTING CODE ONE OPTION IS TO FAST TRACK THOSE ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS TO TRY AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE NEXT YEAR'S CONSTRUCTION CYCLE, TO TRY AND THEM DONE BY A REASONABLE TIME TO TRY AND HELP SUPPORT IDEAS USE AND TO FAMILY DWELLINGS.  THE SECONDARY OPTION TO THAT WOULD BE JUST TO BRING THESE ALL TOGETHER AS ONE BULK THING BUT THAT INCLUDES YOU KNOW MIXING IN MORE OF THESE COMPLEX MIDDLE HOUSING TYPES WITH THE STUFF THAT'S RELATED TO USE AND TO FAMILY. I THINK AS A STAFF WE WOULD RECOMMEND THE FIRST OPTION IT DOES CARRY WITH IT THE LITTLE BIT MORE OVERHEAD OF ADDITIONAL HEARINGS AND WHATNOT BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE WORTH IT IN THE END I WOULD TEND TO AGREE WITH YOU, MR. JOHNSON AND I ALSO I MEAN, I THINK WE DO IT WITH THE UNDERSTANDING AND WE'VE SEEN IT IT'S NOT GOING TO RESULT IN A FLOOD OF YES WE GET IT READY FOR NEXT CONSTRUCTION SEASON. IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE GOING TO HUNDRED 80 USE IN IN THE NEXT CONSTRUCTION SEASON IF WE GET ONE OR TWO BASED ON SOME OF THAT THAT WOULD BE A A GRAND SUCCESS I WOULD THINK.  COUNCILMEMBER NELSON. THANKS, MAYOR. MY ONLY COMMENT THAT AND I AGREE WITH YOUR ASSESSMENT BUT MY ONLY COMMENT ON THAT WE ACTUALLY MAY IN THE NEXT YEAR HAVE SOME LARGER PARCELS THAT BECOME AVAILABLE FOR RESIDENTIAL USES BASED ON SOME OTHER ORGANIZATIONAL DECISIONS AND.  I WOULD JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE OPEN TO TAKING A LOOK AT HOW WE CAN, YOU KNOW, MAXIMIZE THE USE OF THOSE IN A WAY THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS THEY'RE IN SAID VAGUE ENOUGH I CAN I CAN TRY TO BE MORE VAGUE SO I THINK I JUST WANT TO TELEGRAPH THE YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY THAT OUR PLANNING WOULD BE OPEN TO HAVING THOSE DISCUSSIONS EVEN IF YOU'RE NOT ALL THE WAY THROUGH THAT PROCESS. I THINK THAT CULTURAL SO I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE. I MEAN I WOULD ALWAYS ADVOCATE THAT THAT'S WHY CITIES DEVELOP PLAN DEVELOPMENT TOOLS. I KNOW THEY'RE NOT IDEAL IN CERTAIN WAYS BUT IF PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO SEEK FLEXIBILITY TO CERTAIN STANDARDS THEY HAVE MEET A PUBLIC BENEFITS TEST AND WE'LL HAVE AN OPEN AIR PUBLIC HEARING LIKE ANYTHING.  SO YEAH, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.  THANKS. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. TAKE CARE.  THE COUNCIL IS AS WE GOT OUT IN 5.3 THE AMERICAN BOULEVARD TRANSIT STUDY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HERE SO I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE EXTEND TO GO NO LATER THAN 1130 THIS EVENING MOTION IN A SECOND TO EXTEND NO LATER THAN 1130 ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY HI I PROPOSED WE'RE GOING 1130 MR. ROBERTS GOOD EVENING. THANKS FOR STICKING IT OUT WITH US MR. MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. JUST WITH YOU TONIGHT WE'RE KICKING OFF WORK ON THE AMERICAN BOULEVARD TRANSIT STUDY.  WE'RE HERE TONIGHT AND THEN PLANNING COMMISSION ON THURSDAY TO GATHER FEEDBACK IN BRIEF AMERICAN BOULEVARD THE SECTION WE'RE STUDYING ESPECIALLY ROAD OVER TO 34TH AVENUE IN THE NATIONAL WILDLIFE REFUGE THE BLOOMINGTON THE PAST TEN YEARS HAS BEEN THE SIGNIFICANT BENEFICIARY OF A LOT OF TRANSIT INVESTMENT WITH THE OPENING THE ORANGE LINE THE D LINE BEFORE THAT THERE THE THE RED LINE DOWN ACROSS THE RIVER AND THE BLUE LINE ALL CONVERGING ON SOUTH LOOP IN OUR LONG TERM PLAN AND IN METRO TRANSIT LONG TERM PLAN ARTERIAL BRT WAS ALWAYS IN THERE A LONG AMERICAN BOULEVARD TO KIND OF CONNECT ALL OF THESE ROUTES AND SO WE WERE A BIT DISMAYED IN THE LATEST UPDATE OF THAT TO FIND THAT THAT IT WAS NO LONGER IN THE PLAN AND IT'S NO CRITICISM ON METRO TRANSIT THERE ARE WONDERFUL TRANSPORTATION.  THEY'VE GOT SOME NEW PRIORITIES AND SOME CRITERIA AND WE WERE A LITTLE BIT BELOW THOSE. THEY'VE AGREED TO KEEP THIS IN THEIR LONG TERM PLAN. BUT WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR THE CITY TO DO IS DO SOME OF THE INITIAL WORK ON THAT, DO SOME OF THE INITIAL STUDY AND THAT'S IMPORTANT TO US.  IF YOU LOOK AT TRANSIT USE IN BLOOMINGTON, AMERICAN BOULEVARD IS A SIGNIFICANT CORRIDOR FOR TRANSIT AND SO THEY THAT'S WHAT BRINGS US HERE TONIGHT IS STARTING OFF THAT STUDY EFFORT THE NEED FOR THE STUDY THE BASIC NEED IS JUST TO PRESERVE THAT PRESERVE AMERICAN BOULEVARD BRT, THE LONG TERM TRANSIT PLAN. THE SECOND TAB IS TO START TO THE CRITERIA AROUND ARTERIAL BRT LINE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH METRO TRANSIT FURTHER, IT'S NOT JUST ENOUGH HERE JUST TO INSIST IT STAY IN THEIR PLAN BUT THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE ARE WHAT CAN CITY DO TO CREATE AN ATTRACTIVE CORRIDOR FOR CONTINUED INVESTMENT?  WE CAN CONTINUE ROLLING FORTH WITH THE INVESTMENT WE'VE SEEN IN TRANSIT THAT'S TRANSFORMED THE CITY IN RECENT YEARS AND THAT COULD BE JUST, YOU KNOW, LAST MILE CONNECTIONS OR OTHER LAND USE CHANGES, THINGS LIKE THAT JUST TO HELP MAKE THIS CORRIDOR A MUCH MORE SUPPORTIVE AND OUR AMERICAN BOULEVARD HAS ALWAYS BEEN A BIT OF A RELIEVER FOR THE FOR 94 AND SO THE CITY HAS WORKED FOR 40 YEARS TO HELP PUSH FORWARD THOSE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE NOW TAKING PLACE ON THE FOR IN ANY FOR SO THIS COMES AT A REALLY KEY POINT WITH THOSE IMPROVEMENTS THE INCREASES IN CAPACITY ON FOR 94 THE QUESTION IS WHAT DOES THE CITY THINK AMERICAN BOULEVARD NEEDS TO BE FOR THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON INSTEAD OF AS A RELIEVER FOR THIS VERY INTERSTATE?  AND SO THAT'S ANOTHER GOAL OF THIS IS TO SAY WHAT'S WHAT WHAT DO WE WANT THAT ROAD TO BE? WHAT DOES THE COMMUNITY THINK NEEDS TO BE? AND SO TO HELP US ALONG IN THAT WORK I'M TO HAVE ADELE HALL FROM SRF CONSULTING. SHE'S VERY EXPERIENCED TRANSIT PLANNER AND SHE'S GOING TO LEAD THE CITY IN THIS EFFORT AS.  WELL AS THE REST OF THIS DISCUSSION GOOD EVENING ALMOST GOOD MORNING MRS. HULL THANKS FOR BEING HERE WITH US TONIGHT. GOOD EVENING.  AS KIRK SAID MY NAME IS ADELE HALL AND I'M THE CONSULTANT IN PROJECT MANAGER I'M FROM SRF CONSULTING. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME SO IT'S MY CHARGE TONIGHT GIVE YOU JUST AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT THIS STUDY ENTAILS OF ITS SCOPE AND SCHEDULE. I WILL KEEP THIS BRIEF.  WE DO INTEND TO START WITH EVALUATING CONDITIONS ALONG AMERICAN BOULEVARD AND WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS BOTH FROM A TRANSPORTATION PERSPECTIVE LOOKING BUS RIDERSHIP AND TRANSIT CONDITIONS BIKING CONDITIONS, DRIVING A BIT AND LAND USE AND DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS AS WELL IN THE CORRIDOR WE'RE DOING THIS FROM A TECHNICAL PERSPECTIVE. WE'RE LOOKING AT THINGS YOUR YOUR BIKE USE DATA YOUR PEDESTRIAN DATA, THAT SORT OF THING.  BUT WE DO ALSO INTEND TO GO OUT TO THE PUBLIC AND DO SOME PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT JANUARY SO I WANTED TO GIVE YOU A HEADS UP ABOUT OUR INTENTIONS THERE WE ARE INTENDING TO DO A AN ONLINE SURVEY USING YOUR EXISTING TOOLS.  WE INTEND TO TAKE THAT SURVEY OUT ON TO THE ROUTE 542 WHICH IS RUNNING ON AMERICAN BOULEVARD TODAY WE ARE INTENDING TO HOST AN OPEN HOUSE IN MID JANUARY EXACT DATE TIME AND LOCATION TO BE DETERMINED AND THEN WE ALSO INTEND TO MEET WITH SOME INDIVIDUAL STAKEHOLDERS COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS THAT STAFF IN THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT DEPARTMENT ARE IDENTIFYING.  SO ALL OF THAT IS PLANNED FOR JANUARY AND ALL A REALLY IMPORTANT INPUT TO DEVELOPING A VISION THE CORRIDOR WHICH IS MY MAIN PURPOSE OF MY PRESENTATION TODAY ADDITION TO GIVING THIS OVERVIEW IS TO ASK ALL OF YOU AT 11 P.M. AT NIGHT ABOUT YOUR VISION FOR THE AMERICAN BOULEVARD CORRIDOR AND THIS VISION IS REALLY IMPORTANT IT REALLY INFORMS HOW THE CONSULTANT TEAM CONCEPTS FOR WHAT AMERICAN BOULEVARD COULD BE AND I'VE GOT AN EXAMPLE UP HERE AND AND THIS IS SORT OF OUR WAY OF REFLECTING BACK IN A PHYSICAL SENSE WHAT VISION IS SO IF AISION IS FOR SAFER PEDESTRIAN ENVIRONMENT YOU MIGHT SEE CONCEPTS THAT HAVE WIDER SIDEWALKS OR A PLANTED BOULEVARD THAT ACTS AS A BUFFER BETWEEN A STREET AND A SIDEWALK THAT SORT OF THING.  AND WE'LL DEVELOP THESE CONCEPTS THROUGHOUT THE AMERICAN BOULEVARD CORRIDOR AND THEN WE'LL GET INTO EVALUATING THEM AND THAT EVALUATION AGAIN REALLY STEMS FROM THAT VISION WHAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT ALONG AMERICAN BOULEVARD THINGS THAT WE OFTEN TRANSIT CORRIDORS ON ARE WHAT DOES DO THESE IMPROVEMENTS DO FOR TRANSIT RIDERSHIP? HOW MUCH DO THEY COST? HOW WILL THEY COST TO OPERATE OVER THE LONG TERM? WHAT WHAT DO THE CHANGES DO FOR WALKING OR BIKING CONDITIONS?  WHAT ARE THE LAND USE OR DEVELOPMENT PATTERN CHANGES LOOK LIKE? HOW DO ALL THESE CHANGES POTENTIALLY AFFECT GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS OR VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED? SO WE WILL DO ALL OF THAT EVALUATION AND THEN WE DO HAVE A SECOND PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PHASE PLANNED IN SUMMER OF NEXT YEAR TO GO BACK OUT AND TALK WITH PEOPLE ABOUT WHAT WE'VE LEARNED, WHAT WE'VE SEEN, WHAT WE'VE DESIGNED AND GET SOME GENERAL FEEDBACK AND KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHERE DO WE GO WITH NEXT STEPS FROM THERE AND WE WILL PUT TOGETHER A NEXT STEPS REPORT THAT DOES ADDRESS THE ITEMS THAT KURT WAS ABOUT. YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU GO FORWARD WITH ARTERIAL BRT OR OTHER TRANSIT IMPROVEMENTS IN THE AMERICAN BOULEVARD CORRIDOR? WHAT TO HAPPEN AFTER THAT? SO THAT'S OUR CHARGE TO KEEP IT BRIEF, I WILL KIND OF SKIP OVER THIS NEXT SLIDE BUT IN ESSENCE WE'RE WORKING ON DRAFTING A VISION STATEMENT ABOUT AMERICAN BOULEVARD AND WE'D LIKE YOUR FEEDBACK TONIGHT SOME IDEAS KIND OF THINKING ABOUT WHAT WOULD BE YOUR IDEAL OUTCOME OF THE STUDY, WHAT WOULD THE TEAM FOCUS DURING THIS TRANSIT STUDY? WHAT ARE YOUR PRIORITIES FOR THE AMERICAN CORRIDOR? AND I'LL STAND FOR QUESTIONS AND LISTEN.  THANK YOU.  ALSO FIRST THOUGHTS ON THIS COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN. I THANK MAYOR SO I KIND OF THINK ABOUT FROM WHEN I WAS YOUNGER THIS IDEA OF THE BLOOMINGTON STRIP, YOU KNOW,  HAD THIS YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WANTED TO COME TO IT AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO HERE BUT IT JUST HAD THAT YOU KNOW, THE REGION KNEW ABOUT THIS THIS WHERE PEOPLE WANTED TO BE AT AND I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY WHEN I'VE TRAVELED, YOU KNOW, FOR VARIOUS CONFERENCES TO SEE THE LATEST ONE WAS WHEN I WAS IN TAMPA I A STREETCAR TOUR AND I WAS REALLY JUST REALLY IMPRESSED WITH HOW THEY UTILIZED THAT TO MOVE PEOPLE THROUGH THE DIFFERENT AREAS AND ZONES WITHIN THE CITY AND I AND I THOUGHT ABOUT YOU KNOW WHAT WOULD THAT REVITALIZATION LOOK LIKE? YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT FOR, YOU KNOW THAT THE AMERICAN BOULEVARD TO MOVE PEOPLE UP AND DOWN THAT THAT CORRIDOR AND THEN ALSO I THINK ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENED IN KANSAS CITY IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY HAVE THERE. THEY'VE GOT THAT, YOU KNOW AND SO I MEAN I THINK THEY'RE BOTH FREE AND I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU PAY FOR THAT. SO I MEAN AFTER THAT CONVERSATION I WANT TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT SAYING ANYTHING FREE.  BUT IT WAS INTERESTING TO WATCH HOW THE DEVELOPMENT GREW THAT THAT IDEA OF ALLOWING PEOPLE TO JUST JUMP THERE AND GO TO THE DIFFERENT CORRIDORS AND THEN JUST TO KIND OF WRAP THIS UP VERY QUICKLY BECAUSE I KNOW WE'RE LATE HERE SO YOU KNOW, I'M HOPING THAT AS WE LOOK AT THESE IDEAS FOR OUTCOMES OF THE STUDY THAT WE DRIVE ECONOMIC RENEWAL ACROSS THE AREA THAT AS WE LOOK AT THE FOCUS, YOU KNOW OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE A LOT OF OUR FOCUS AROUND SUSTAINABILITY AND A REVIVAL RELIABILITY ECONOMIC VIBRANCY ACROSS THAT THAT CORRIDOR AND JUST REALLY JUST TRYING TO FIND WAYS IN WHICH TO MAKE IT THE PLACE TO TO BE INHE CITY AND CONNECT OTHER CORRIDORS THAT WE HAVE WITHIN THE CITY. THAT'S SORT OF WHAT I LOOK AT IN TERMS THIS IS THAT COUNCILMEMBER THEME HERE I WOULD AGREE WITH EVERYTHING COUNCILMEMBER LYMAN JUST SAID LISTENING TO MY FATHER IN LAW MY MOTHER IN LAW WHO GREW UP HERE AND TALKING WITH SOME OF OUR OFFICERS WHO USED TO COME UP HERE AMERICAN BOULEVARD WAS THE PLACE TO BE . AND SO AS WE RE-ENVISION AMERICAN BOULEVARD I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A PARKING BRIGHT SPOT I CAN FOR ME FOR EXAMPLE I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THREE YOUNG KIDS ON A BUS. THIS IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.  GET TO AMERICAN BOULEVARD BUT I WILL DRIVE THERE. I THINK PART THERE AND TAKE A BUS OR TRAM OR WHATEVER UP AND AMERICAN BOULEVARD TO VISIT SHOPS, RESTAURANTS AND HAVE THAT LIVELIHOOD FROM FRANCE ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE MALL. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN USE TO ANCHOR AS THOSE TWO CORE ATTRACTIONS THAT WE HAVE AND REALLY DRIVE THAT DEVELOPMENT AND AND JUST LIKE EXCITEMENT BACK INTO THAT THAT THAT ROAD SO I THINK THAT THERE'S HUGE OPPORTUNITY FOR DIFFERENT WAYS TO THINK DIFFERENT WAYS TO GET PEOPLE THERE AND GET PEOPLE UP AND DOWN THAT ROAD TO REALLY EXPERIENCE WHAT BLOOMINGTON HAS.  SO AS THE GRAY HAIRED GUY I WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THAT AMERICAN BOULEVARD WAS NEVER THE STRIP THE 494 STRIP WAS WHERE IT WAS ALL HAPPENING. IT WAS NEVER AMERICAN. NO, I KNOW THAT BUT AMERICAN BOULEVARD WAS BUILT AS A BASICALLY A RELIEVER FOR FOR 94, ESPECIALLY WHEN THE MALL OF AMERICA WAS BUILT. AND I THINK YOU'RE MISSING MY POINT MY POINT IS IS THAT THAT IS DOESN'T EXIST ANYMORE.  BUT DURING THAT CORRIDOR MY IDEA IS IS THAT CAN WE GO BACK TO THAT VIBRANCY OF THAT TIME? NOT NOT I DON'T THINK THAT'S I TOTALLY GET IT IS THAT WAS NOT THE STRIP TOTALLY GET IT YEAH AND SINCE I'M TALKING AND WE JUST MENTION ONE OTHER THING THE WALKING TRAIL THAT THEY HAD IN TAMPA REALLY WAS AN INTERESTING THING TOO BECAUSE IT WASN'T JUST THE STREETCAR BUT THEY ALSO HAD A WALKING TRAIL THAT THEY'VE YOU KNOW IT JUST KEPT GROWING, GETTING BIGGER AND BIGGER. SO YEAH AND IT'S INTERESTING TO HEAR BECAUSE I'M THINKING A BIT MORE UTILITARIAN BECAUSE WE'VE HEARD COUPLE OF THINGS. WELL FIRST OF ALL I KNOW WHAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY MADE FOR. IT WAS A REALLY ROOM TO GET PEOPLE AND FROM MALL OF AMERICA. BUT WHAT WE'VE HEARD FROM A LOT OF DIFFERENT FOLKS IS THE LACK EAST-WEST TRANSIT CONNECTIONS IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AND.  SO I MEAN MY PRIORITY, MY VISION WOULD BE ON EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT SOME SORT OF TRANSIT IN THAT ON AREA AND I KNOW THERE'S TRANSIT THERE NOW I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WOULD SAY EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT EVEN FOR ANY OF THE TRANSIT THAT'S THERE NOW AND I GO BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN I MEAN THE COMBINATION OF BRT WHICH I GET AND IS PROBABLY WELL SUITED FOR THAT BUT I DON'T THINK THAT DOES THAT THAT'S A BIT OF A DISSERVICE FOR THE FOLKS WHO NEED MORE LOCAL SERVICE ALSO YOU KNOW, STOPPING EVERY TEN BLOCKS AS OPPOSED TO EVERY OTHER BLOCK IS A DIFFERENT KIND OF THING. AND I MEAN I'M MAYBE I'M THINKING JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE PRACTICAL ON THISHAT THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THE YOU KNOW THAT EAST-WEST CONNECTION IN BLOOMINGTON AND THEN SOMEHOW ALSO COUPLE THAT WITH NORTH-SOUTH CONNECTIONS BECAUSE WE HAVE DECENT NORTH-SOUTH CONNECTIONS SO.  I MEAN IF WE IF WE ENDED IT IF THAT WAS BASICALLY THE EAST-WEST AND THEN WE ENDED UP WITH SOMETHING ON YOU KNOW, LYNDALE AND FRANCE AND YOU KNOW HOW YOU KNOW HOW DO FIGURE IT OUT BUT BASICALLY TO MAKE THAT KIND OF THE THE NORTHERN SPINE WHICH GETS PEOPLE AROUND BUT THEN UP AND DOWN AS WELL I DON'T KNOW IT'S I MEAN COUNCILMEMBER NELSON YEAH THANK YOU MAYOR I TEND TO AGREE WITH YOU AND I THINK THAT THIS QUARTER ALREADY HAS VISIONS IN DIFFERENT PLACES. I MEAN PART OF THIS GOES THROUGH SOUTH LOOP WHICH HAS ITS OWN DISTRICT PLAN PART IT GOES THROUGH THE PAN-AMERICAN DISTRICT WHICH HAS ITS PLAN YOU KNOW THERE ARE I DON'T KNOW THERE ISN'T CONTINUITY ALONG AMERICAN IN TERMS OF A VISION FOR THE ENTIRE THING. SO I LIKE THE IDEA THIS IS HOW WE GET YOU ACROSS THERE. THE OTHER THING THAT I WILL ADD IS JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE TAKE A LOOK AT PUBLIC SAFETY.  YOU KNOW, WE DO KNOW THAT THERE ARE A HIGHER NUMBER THAN AVERAGE NUMBERS OF CRIMES REPORTED ALONG THIS CORRIDOR,  CERTAIN SECTIONS AND YOU KNOW, HOW CAN WE USE THIS TO HELP THAT REVITALIZATION THAT COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN TALKED ABOUT AND ADDRESS PUBLIC SAFETY BECAUSE THE CAMPUS WHATEVER YOU WANT THERE, IT'S NOT SAFE. NO ONE'S GOING TO GO ON IT SO MAKE SURE IT'S SAFE. COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS AND THEN COUNCILMEMBER CARTER COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS, I AGREE WITH YOU.  I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE ALLENDALE THEN MAYBE FRANCE AND CONDEMN ALL OF AMERICA ALL THE WAY OUT TO FRANCE LIKES SORT OF YOU SUGGESTED IT I THINK IT WOULD BE NICE A STREETCAR LINK IN TOWN SO IT WOU BE NICE NOT FOR IDLE AND JUST I HAD TO SAY THAT IT WAS FREE DOWN THERE AND IT WAS FINE IN THAT THING IT WAS ANY TIME OF THE DAY I, I REMEMBER I GOT CHARGED USING A CAB THAT I NEVER USE I RODE THE DID THE STREETCAR I REMEMBER THAT I WENT BACK TO PHILADELPHIA.  IT WAS IT'S IT WAS PRETTY FUN RIGHT IN THAT THING IT WAS CLEAN SAFE.  IT FEEL IT FELT UNSAFE WHEN I WAS WAITING FOR AT ONE IN THE MORNING TO GET BACK TO THE HOTEL BUT BUT MEAN IT WASN'T BAD I WASN'T PARTYING OKAY I'M I WENT TO A HISPANIC AND THEN I GOT STUCK THERE AND I HAD TO MAKE IT I TO MAKE IT BACK. I DIDN'T KNOW HOW BUT ANYWAY THE THE TRANSPORTATION WAS AWESOME RIGHT? I MEAN IT WAS AND IT WAS FREE. I WAS AMAZED THAT YOU JUST JUMPED IN THAT THING AND IT TOOK YOU PLACES BUT IT'S AMAZING WHAT THEY DO THERE. BUT AGAIN THE CITY IS LIKE MAYBE TEN TIMES BIGGER THAN US NOT LIKE FIVE TIMES OR SO BIGGER THAN US BUT THE THE WALKWAY ALONG THE AMAZING TOO . I MEAN I PUT A LOT OF MILES IN THAT THING MYSELF SO THAT IT YEAH IT WOULD BE KIND OF YOU KNOW I DON'T KNOW I, I WILL USE IT IF IT WERE SAFE I DON'T LIKE TO RIDE THE TRAIN TO THE STADIUM TO THE US BANK STADIUM BECAUSE SHE DOESN'T FEEL SAFE WHEN YOU WRITE THAT THING. BUT IF WE WERE ABLE TO PROVIDE SAFE SECURITY THERE AND ESPECIALLY AROUND NICOLLET AND AMERICAN SNOW YOU THAT SOME FEEL TOO GOOD IN THERE BUT THAT WOULD BE NICE COUNCILMEMBER CARTER AND THEN COUNCILMEMBER THANK YOU MAYOR SO I IN LOOKING AT THE DRAFT VISION STATEMENT AND WHAT MY COLLEAGUES COUNCIL HAVE SAID I AGREE AND I REALLY LIKE THE VISION.  I JUST STRUGGLE BECAUSE IT IS A COLLECTIVE ROAD OR WHATEVER THE TECHNICAL TERM IS RIGHT AND I DRIVE IT OFTEN AND CARS ARE GOING VERY FAST SO IT JUST DOESN'T IT'S HARD FOR ME TO ENVISION A WALKABLE, BIKEABLE, PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY CORRIDOR ACROSS THE NORTH SIDE OF OUR CITY BUT IT UP AGAINST 494 BUT IF WE CAN YOU KNOW PAINT THE PICTURE AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THERE. I MEAN I THINK IT WOULD BE LIKE I'M NOT SAYING WE SHOULDN'T DO IT. I JUST IT'S VERY HARD FOR ME TO TO IMAGINE IT JUST FEELS LIKE WE HAVE CONFLICTING LIKE A LIKE THE PRACTICAL THAT IT'S A COLLECTIVE ROAD AND THEN A DESIRE TO HAVE A WALKABLE BIKEABLE LIKE ENJOYABLE EXPERIENCE AND SO YEAH SO AND THEN I GOING TO SAY SOMETHING ELSE TO THE LAST PART OF THAT CONVERSATION BUT I FORGET IT'S TOO LATE I'M BRAIN STARTING TO SHUT DOWN BUT YES I AM EXCITED TO BE HAVING THE CONVERSATION SO THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER VERY LAST PIECE I WILL SAY I HAVE NOT BEEN PARTICULARLY HAPPY WITH THAT TRANSIT AND THE THINGS THAT THEY DECIDED TO DO MOVING TO ESPECIALLY THINGS LIKE THIS I IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS WORK I WANT TO HAVE A FIRMER COMMITMENT THAT STUFF IS GOING TO HAPPEN AND THAT THE WORK WE DO IS ACTUALLY GOING TO MATERIALIZE INTO SOMETHING BECAUSE OF THE WAY THEY'VE DONE THINGS IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS GIVES ME NO CONFIDENCE IN WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING AND WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO WITH IT IN ORDER TO SUPPORT AND I KNOW BLOOMINGTON NEEDS MORE OF THIS TH TRANSIT AND METRO TRANSIT ITSELF HAS NOT BEEN AS OPEN A PARTNER AS I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IN THE COUNCIL.  WE'VE GOT TO KEEP MOVING THE NIGHTS GETTING LATER.  IS THAT ENOUGH TO WORK ON? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. VERY GOOD, MR. ROONEY. ANYTHING. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS JUST THE THE LAST COMMENTS FROM COUNCILMEMBER JUST REMINDED ME THAT LESLIE KOENDERS, THE GENERAL MANAGER OF METRO TRANSIT AND COUNCILMEMBER JOHN PACHECO WILL BE HERE AT THE COUNCIL MEETING AT THE END OF JANUARY.  IT'S GOOD TO KNOW YOU'RE GOOD . OUR FINAL AGENDA ITEM TONIGHT COUNCIL IS THAT IN 5.4 HOURS CITY COUNCIL POLICY AND ISSUE UPDATES. I WILL WITH A REVIEW OF OUR LISTENING SESSION WE HEARD FROM TWO SPEAKERS MS. ALANIS RECAPPED A SERIES COMPLAINTS AND CONCERNS SHE HAD OVER THE PAST 13 YEARS FOR US AND BILL BECKER WE HAD A NICE CONVERSATION WITH MR. BECKER ABOUT PROPOSED LEVIES AND TAXES.  HE UNFORTUNATELY COULDN'T BE HERE FOR THE TRUTH AND TAXATION HEARING AND WANTED TO GET A CHANCE TALK.  SO WE WE HAD A GOOD CONVERSATION WITH HIM.  THOSE WERE TWO SPEAKERS I HAVE JUST ONE THING THAT I WANT TO RUN PAST YOU COUNCIL AND GET YOUR FEEDBACK ON SO YOU ALREADY YOU ALL KNOW THAT JAMEY HAS ANNOUNCED HIS HIS RESIGNATION AND JANUARY 7TH WILL BE HIS LAST DAY AND WE'RE SAD TO SEE GO BUT HAPPY FOR CATHOLIC CHARITIES BECAUSE THEY'RE GETTING A GOOD ONE SO WE'RE HAPPY ABOUT THAT AND AS WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME THE CITY IS ULTIMATELY THE CHOOSE A SEARCH FIRM AND I THINK THAT'LL HAPPEN PROBABLY AFTER THE FIRST OF THE YEAR IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN NOW DURING THE HOLIDAYS BUT AFTER FIRST OF THE YEAR A SEARCH FIRM TO HELP US DO A COMPLETE AND COMPREHENSIVE SEARCH AND COME UP WITH THE BEST POSSIBLE CANDIDATES FOR OUR TO TO BE OUR CITY MANAGER AS I SAID,  YOU WILL ALL BE INVOLVED. I HAVE NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT AND WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT THIS WILL BE THAT THIS IS A PLUM A PLUM JOB FOR SEARCH FIRMS AND THEN A PLUM JOB FOR A CITY MANAGER. SO WE'RE GOING TO GET A LOT OF CANDIDATES AND A LOT OF FOLKS WHO TO DO THE SEARCH FOR US AND WE'RE GOING GET A LOT OF CANDIDATES WHO WANT TO BE OUR CITY MANAGER AS WEL ANDO THAT'S EXCITING AND WE HAVE THAT TO LOOK FORWARD TO AS WE GET INTO THE NEW YEAR AND WE CAN TALK MORE ABOUT THAT IN JANUARY AT OUR STAFF RETREAT THIS WHOLE NOTION OF THE TRANSITION AND MOVING FORWARD AND HOW WE'RE PUTTING THIS ALL TOGETHER IS GOING TO BE AN IMPORTANT TOPIC OF DISCUSSION. ED RITCHIE JANUARY 11TH AS WE SEARCH FOR THE NEW MANAGER I'M GOING TO PROPOSE COUNSEL AND LOOKING FOR YOUR FEEDBACK AH TO ASSISTANT CITY MANAGERS ELIZABETH HOLTZMAN AND KATHY GOODIN ASKING THEM TO STEP INTO A DUAL INTERIM LEADERSHIP ROLE FOR THE CITY AND A DUAL LEADERSHIP ROLE A UNIQUE ONE. BUT I THINK WE HAVE A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY HERE BOTH ELIZABETH AND KATHY THEIR STRONG VERY SUCCESSFUL SMART LEADERS THEY'VE GOT THE RESPECT AND THE TRUST OF CITY STAFF AND I DO THINK THAT SPLITTING THE CITY MANAGER RESPONSIBILITY BETWEEN TWO FOLKS WILL MAKE IT A MUCH MORE MANAGEABLE TASK TO KEEP BLOOMINGTON HUMMING RIGHT ALONG AND HAVE TALKED WITH BOTH OF THEM ABOUT THE POSSIBILITIES AND THEY ARE WORKING ON A A SPECIFIC PLAN OF BREAKING DOWN RESPONSIBILITIES WHO ARE TAKING ON THE DIFFERENT REPORTING RESPONSIBILITIES FOR THE FOLKS WHO CURRENTLY REPORT TO JAMIE WE NEED ONE PERSON WHO'S GOT SIGNATURE AUTHORITY WHAT TO DO IN CASE OF EMERGENCIES OR CRISIS COMMUNICATION ALL THOSE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT'S BEING PUT TOGETHER KIND OF WORKING THROUGH ALL OF THAT BUT I AM THAN CONFIDENT IN ELIZABETH AND KATHY AND I THINK IT WOULD BE AN EXCITING WAY TO TO CONTINUE THE CONTINUITY AND STAFF CONTINUE TO BUILD WHAT WE'VE GOT GOING ON HERE AND JUST KIND OF KEEP US MOVING SMOOTHLY THROUGH THE FOUR OR FIVE OR SO MONTHS THAT WILL TO GET A NEW CITY MANAGER ON BOARD. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER THANK YOU MAYOR I DON'T HAVE A LOT TO ADD BUT DO JUST WANT TO EXPRESS MY SUPPORT. I THINK THAT MY PERCEPTION AND I GUESS IT IS REALITY THAT YOU KNOW THE CITY STAFF HAS UNDERGONE A LOT OF CHANGE OVER THE LAST SEVEN, EIGHT, 12 MONTHS AND SO I FEEL LIKE HAVING LEADERS IN PLACE DURING THE INTERIM THAT PROVIDE THE CONTINUITY AND STABILITY IS REALLY IMPORTANT AND IF THAT'S WHAT YOU ARE ALSO HEARING FROM STAFF THEN I THINK IT JUST VALIDATES THE DECISION AND SO I'M SUPPORTIVE VERY GOOD.  COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS, THE TWO THAT I FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT BECAUSE I WAS GETTING A LOT OF NOISE OUT THERE IN TO HAVING TO BRING AN INTERIM WHEN WE HAD TO BE CAPABLE ASSISTANT MANAGER SO YEAH IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.  OTHER THOUGHTS COUNCIL COUNCILMEMBER WOMAN AND I ASSUME THERE THAT YOU CHUCKLED STAFF AND THE SENIOR STAFF ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS THIS PARTICULAR PLAN I THINK THEY ARE OVERWHELMINGLY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS. LIKE I SAID I KNOW THEY'VE GOT ANOTHER CATHY AND ELIZABETH HAD THE RESPECT OF THE SENIOR STAFF THROUGH THAT THE TRUST AND THEN THE SUPPORT OF THEM AND I THINK IT'S A GOOD GOOD WAY TO MOVE STEP FORWARD AND AS COUNCILMEMBER CARTER SAID IT IN A AFTER A KIND OF A TUMULTUOUS YEAR AND THE POTENTIAL OF MOVING INTO A TUMULTUOUS YEAR COMING UP I MEAN WITH THE TRANSITION MOVING INTO AN ELECTION YEAR WHO KNOWS WHAT'S GOING TO GO ON THINGS THAT WE CAN'T CONTROL ALL THAT WE'VE BEEN ABOUT THIS IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY I THINK FOR CONTINUITY AND STABILITY AT THAT IN THAT LEADERSHIP POSITION I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR RESEARCH REALLY KIND OF THINKING IT THROUGH AND THERE'S BEEN A NUMBER OF IDEAS THAT HAVE BEEN BEING KICKED AROUND THERE AND I THINK THIS RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU'RE BRINGING TO THE COUNCIL MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. SO I CAN SUPPORT THAT IF IF YOU KNOW, YOU FEEL THAT THAT IS THE FORWARD TO DO THAT. THE ONLY ONLY QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU AS WE GO THROUGH THE DUAL PIECE IN THAT TRANSITION IS YOU KNOW WITH THE BUDGET I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THAT IN TERMS OF HOW THAT WILL BE HANDLED GOING NEXT YEAR.  THE BUDGET PLANNING AND THE BUDGET PLANNING HOW THAT'S EXECUTED ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY LOOKING TO BRING A NEW CITY MANAGER IN ON A REALLY COMPLEX. SO THAT'S MY ONE MY ONE CONCERN WITH THAT PLAN AND I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT UP AND I THINK THEY'RE HEARING IT NOW AND SO THAT THAT HELPS. BUT I THINK ALSO OUR JANUARY 11TH RETREAT IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT DISCUSSION. YEAH, I DON'T WANT TO SOLVE IT NOW BUT I DO WANT TO RAISE THAT. UNDERSTOOD.  SO UNLESS I'M HEARING IN THE NOSE OR SEEING ANY RED FLAGS GOING UP, I THINK THAT WILL BE THE PATH THAT WE DOWN IF EVERYBODY'S COOL WITH THAT VERY GOOD. LET'S DO THAT.  THAT'S ALL I HAVE. MR. FAROOQUI, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING?  THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. COUNCILMEMBERS.  I DO HAVE ONE ITEM AND THIS IS JUST A UPDATE REGARDING OUR COMMUNITY HEALTH WELLNESS CENTER. I KNOW THE COUNCIL'S REALLY INTERESTED IN TERMS OF THE SUSTAINABILITY COMPONENTS OF THAT PROJECT AND WHAT WE'LL BE DOING TO ENSURE THAT.  IT IS AS ENERGY EFFICIENT AS POSSIBLE. SO THERE'S A THERE'S AN ORGANIZATION CALLED THE MINNESOTA CLIMATE INNOVATION FINANCE AUTHORITY AND CFA WHICH IS MINNESOTA'S NEW GREEN BANK WHICH WAS ESTABLISHED BY THE LEGISLATURE. SO THEY HAVE PUT OUT A FINAL REQUEST FOR INFORMATION RESPONSES THIS WEEK FOR THIS PAST WEEK FOR APPLICABLE PROJECTS.  SO WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO IS UNDERSTAND THE LINE OF PROJECTS WITH VARIOUS STATE AND FEDERAL FUNDING SOURCES, COORDINATE WITH OTHER FUNDERS AHEAD OF THE SHIFT OF ADMINISTRATION THAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW SO THAT THEY CAN POTENTIALLY ACCELERATE ACTION THE RESPONSE. SO WE WERE SUBMITTING THE RESPONSE DOESN'T OBLIGATE US TO ANYTHING BUT IT ESSENTIALLY DOES IS IT GETS US INTO SYSTEM FOR WHAT IS ESSENTIALLY A SHORT TERM BRIDGE THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO LEVERAGE FOR A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TAX CREDIT RELATED TO THE SUSTAINABILITY COMPONENTS OF GEOTHERMAL AND SOLAR THAT WE'RE HOPING TO INCLUDE IN THE PROJECT.  SO THE CFA IS ACTUALLY A REALLY GOOD OPTION FOR US BECAUSE THE TAX CREDITS THROUGH THE DIRECT PAY IN THE IN THE FEDERAL IRA FUNDING BUT THAT SOMETIMES DELAY AS MUCH AS THREE YEARS FROM THE TIME THAT THE PROJECT IS COMMENCED TO THE TIME THAT THE DIRECT PAY COMES BACK.  SO THAT'S WHY THIS BRIDGE LOAN PROGRAM HAS BEEN UP SO OUR STAFF IS WORKING THROUGH THAT. I THINK THIS IS REALLY ENCOURAGING AND OPTIMISTIC POSSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN INCLUDE AS MUCH OF A SUSTAINABILITY FOCUS ON THE ON THE BUILDING AS POSSIBLE SO AS WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS STAFF WILL JUST PROVIDING UPDATES SO YOU KNOW WHERE WE STAND AS WE MOVE FORWARD. THANK YOU. THE ONLY THING TO TONIGHT I'M HEARING NOTHING OTHER THAN A MOTION TO ADJOURN FROM SOMEONE SO MOVED. WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND TO ADJOURN ALL IN FAVOR I I WE ARE ADJOURNED SEVEN ZERO THANK YOU MUCH COUNSEL GOOD DISCUSSION TONIGHT. GOOD MEETING.  GOOD HARD WORK AND YOU DID GOOD WORK SO TAKE THAT WITH YOU. WELL THANK YOU TO THE STAFF. THANKS TO EVERYBODY WHO PARTICIPATED WE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE INVOLVED TONIGHT SO THANK YOU MUCH EVERYBODY HAVE A GREAT TUESDAY