##VIDEO ID:wzzibCY-T5U##  LEADING LADIES AND GENTLEMEN AND WELCOME I WILL CALL THIS BLOOMINGTON CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER TONIGHT THIS MONDAY OCTOBER 14TH, 2024. THANKS FOR JOINING US HERE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS AND FOR EVERYBODY WATCHING ONLINE WE WILL START AS WE ALWAYS DO IF YOU'RE ABLE PLEASE JOIN STAND AND JOIN ME THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.  ONCE AGAIN WELCOME.  THANKS FOR JOINING US THIS EVENING. COUNCIL MEMBER CARTER IS JOINING US FROM HOME THIS EVENING AND IT'S A IT'S ONE OF THE NEW LAWS THAT WAS ACTUALLY PASSED THIS YEAR THAT PROVIDES COUNCIL MEMBERS AND OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS UP TO THREE INSTANCES WHERE IF FOR WHATEVER REASON THEY CAN BE AT A REMOTE FOR AN HOUR FOR WHATEVER REASON HEALTH AND MEDICAL REASONS EXCUSE ME TO JOIN US REMOTELY. AND SO THAT IS HAPPENING TONIGHT. BUT BECAUSE OF THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING WITH A ROLL VOTE AND SO WE WILL CALL THE ROLL TO ESTABLISH WHO IS HERE THIS EVENING. SO SUFFICE YOU COULD DO THAT AND WE COULD GET THAT UNDERWAY. YES. MAYOR CARTER PRESENTS MORE PRESIDENT LOWMAN HERE HERE RIVAS D'ALESSANDRO PRESIDENT AND NELSON COUNCILMEMBER IS HERE. I THINK HE'S HE'S DEALING WITH SOMETHING HE'LL BE IN SHORTLY I BELIEVE AND I'M HERE AS WELL. AND MAYOR BUSSEY, YOU'RE VERY GOOD. VERY GOOD.  SO WE WILL BE DOING OUR ROLL CALL VOTES FOR ALL OF OUR VOTING THIS EVENING JUST TO LET THE COUNCIL KNOW THAT'S WHERE WE ARE AT OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS TONIGHT IS TO APPROVE TONIGHT'S AGENDA AND ON OUR AGENDA THIS EVENING UNDER INTRODUCTORY ITEMS WE WILL BE INTRODUCING NEW EMPLOYEES. KIM BERGMAN FROM OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO BE INTRODUCING A COUPLE OF EMPLOYEES. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PROCLAMATION FOR JEFF MCHALE THIS COMMUNITY MEDIA DAY AND ITEM 2.3 WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM OUR COMMUNICATIONS STAFF ABOUT YET WHEELBARROW FULL OF AWARDS THAT THE COMMUNICATIONS STAFF FOR THEIR WORKED ON YEAR SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT OUR CONSENT AGENDA THIS EVENING INCLUDES 15 ITEMS COUNCILMEMBER IS TAKING OUR CONSENT AGENDA THIS EVENING ITEM FOUR UNDER HEARINGS, RESOLUTIONS AND ORDINANCES WE'LL HAVE FOUR PUBLIC HEARINGS THIS EVENING AND A 4.1 WILL BE A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING OUR ANNUAL THE CDBG ANNUAL ACTION PLAN AND BUDGET ITEM 4.2 IS A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING RENTAL HOUSING CODE AMENDMENTS ITEM 4.3 ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING ADOPTING A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE ASSESSMENT ROLE AND ITEM 4.4 IS A PUBLIC HEARING ON CITY CODE AMENDMENTS REGARDING STREAMLINED DEVELOPMENT AND ORDINANCES.  ITEM FIVE OUR ORGANIZATIONAL BUSINESS WILL CONTINUE OUR BUDGET DISCUSSION THIS EVENING. COUNCIL FIRST OFF WE'RE GOING TO START WITH ITEM 5.1 WHICH WILL BE A DISCUSSION ON THE SEWER AVAILABILITY CHARGE THAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING PSAC DISCUSSION THEN WE'LL INTO THE BUDGET ITEM 5.2 OUR 2025 BUDGET AND RATE DISCUSSION FOR OUR UTILITY FUNDS AND 5.3 OUR 2025 BUDGET DISCUSSION FOR OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT WILL WRAP UP AS WE ALWAYS DO WITH ITEM 5.4 OUR CITY COUNCIL POLICY AND ISSUE UPDATE AND HOPEFULLY ADJOURN BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE IN THE EVENING COUNCIL ANY QUESTIONS OR ADDITIONS REGARDING TONIGHT'S AGENDA? IF NOT I WOULD MOVE TONIGHT AGENDA AS STATED. SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN TO ACCEPT AGENDA NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS MISS MERCER THANK YOU MAYOR CARTER I MUA I LOWMAN I RIVAS DALLESSANDRO NELSON AND MAYOR BUSSEY I MOTION CARRIES FIVE ZERO AND WE HAVE AN AGENDA THIS EVENING EXCUSE ME 60I APOLOGIZE SIX ZERO WILL BE ON WE'LL START OFF TONIGHT AND IN 2.1 INTRODUCTION OF NEW EMPLOYEES GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME.  THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE INTRODUCING NEW TWO NEW HRA STAFF VALENTINA ABDULLAH IS A HRA PROGRAM SPECIALIST AND SHE STARTED WITH US ON AUGUST 5TH. SHE'S CURRENTLY WORKING ON DESIGN AND IMPLEMENTATION OF THE IN-HOUSE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT PROGRAM FOR THE HRA OWNED PROPERTY VALENTINO BRINGS TO BLOOMINGTON OVER 15 YEARS OF CONSTRUCTION, AFFORDABLE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT AND PROJECT LEADERSHIP EXPERIENCE AND FOR FUN SHE LIKES TO READ BOOKS AND GO FOR WALKS WITH HER FAMILY AND TRAVEL AS WELL. SO WITH THAT PLEASE WELCOME VALENTINO EVENING VALENTINO WELCOME. GOOD EVENING.  THANK YOU. BEEN HERE FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS SO FAR I IT AND I'M JUST LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH MY TEAMMATES ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING INITIATIVES . THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANKS FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT . AND NEXT I'LL INTRODUCE TO SARAH ABE. SHE'S THE NEW HRC ADMINISTRATOR. SARAH WAS APPROVED BY THE HRA BOARD AS THE ADMINISTRATOR BACK ON AUGUST 27TH. SHE COMES WITH A MASTER'S IN PUBLIC POLICY AND SOCIAL WORK FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA AND HAS WORKED FOR MORE THAN A DECADE IN VARIOUS LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND NONPROFIT ROLES. MOST RECENTLY SHE SERVED AS A SENIOR PROJECT MANAGEMENT FOR THE CITY OF BROOKLYN PARK WHERE SHE SUCCESSFULLY OVERSAW LARGE SCALE DEVELOPMENT CONTRACTS, HOUSING AND REDEVELOPMENT PROJECTS AND VARIOUS HOUSING POLICY INITIATIVES AND HER WORK WITH THE URBAN LAND INSTITUTE'S REAL DIVERSITY INITIATIVE STEERING COMMITTEE IS PARTICULARLY NOTABLE AND SHE CAN BRING THOSE EXPERIENCES TO OUR WORK HERE IN BLOOMINGTON.  GOOD EVENING. WELCOME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CAN THANK YOU SO MUCH COUNCILMEMBERS.  I'M ALSO VERY EXCITED TO BE HERE. IT'S BEEN A REALLY GOOD EXPERIENCE SO FAR TO KNOW THE HRA COMMISSIONERS AND LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING TO KNOW ALL OF YOU AS WELL.  AND YEAH AS VALENTINA SAID SO WELL LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING TOGETHER ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND OTHER HOUSING INITIATIVES ACROSS THE CITY. THANK YOU.  VERY GOOD. WELL, THANK YOU. AS I DO WITH NEW EMPLOYEES REMIND SARAH AND VALENTINA IN A LOT OF WAYS YOU'RE THE FACE OF BLOOMINGTON PEOPLE WILL SEE YOU AND KNOW YOU AND RECOGNIZE YOU A LOT MORE.  THEY RECOGNIZE ANYBODY UP HERE. AND SO WITH THAT COMES THE YOU KNOW, THE EXPECTATION AND THE AND THE THE THE THE THE CULTURE OF THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON TO PROVIDE OUTSTANDING SERVICE TO OUR RESIDENTS. SO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT. WELCOME ABOARD. LOOK FORWARD TO YOU GETTING OUT AND ABOUT AND SERVING OUR CITIZENS HERE IN BLOOMINGTON. SO WELCOME.  NEXT UP IS A PROCLAMATION AND GOING TO HEAD DOWN TO THE PODIUM FOR THIS ONE  TONIGHT WE HAVE A FOR COMMUNITY MEDIA DAY AND SPECIFICALLY CALLS OUT JEFF MACGILLIS WHO WAS A LONGTIME PRODUCER AND PERSONALITY OF BLOOMINGTON COMMUNITY ACCESS TELEVISION WHO PASSED AWAY IN MARCH OF THIS YEAR.  SO WE'RE PUT WE PUT THE PROCLAMATION TOGETHER AND COMBINE THE TWO PIECES OF IT. BOTH JEFF'S CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE CITY AND AND COMMUNITY MEDIA DAY. SO THIS IS A PROCLAMATION FOR JEFF MCHALE AS COMMUNITY MEDIA DAY OCTOBER 20TH, 2020 FOR WHEREAS COMMUNITY MEDIA DAY IS AN ANNUAL CELEBRATION OF VOICES THAT BRINGS AWARENESS TO THE IMPORTANCE OF FREE SPEECH AND ACCESSIBLE MEDIA FOR ALL INDIVIDUALS TO HAVE THEIR VOICES HEARD.  AND. WHEREAS, COMMUNITY MEDIA ORGANIZATIONS PROVIDE A MEANS DIVERSE COMMUNITIES TO TELL THEIR STORIES HEAR EACH OTHER'S STORIES AND CREATE NEW STORIES TOGETHER. AND. WHEREAS, COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS PROVIDE INFORMATION TO THE COMMUNITY THAT IS NOT COVERED BY MAINSTREAM COMMERCIAL MEDIA. AND. WHEREAS, JEFF MACGILLIS WAS A LONGTIME LOCAL PRODUCER AND MORE THAN 20 YEAR MEMBER OF THE BLOOMINGTON COMMUNITY ACCESS.  AND. WHEREAS, JEFF HAD A DEEP PASSION FOR MOVIES MUSIC AND WAS DEDICATED TO REVIEWING MOVIES AND HOSTING A WEEKLY PODCAST AND CABLE TELEVISION SHOW THE CINEMA JUDGE.  AND WHEREAS JEFF UNDERSTOOD THE BENEFITS OF MEDIA CREATED AND FOR THE COMMUNITY AND HOW SHARING OF IDEAS AND INFORMATION HELPS BUILD COMMON UNDERSTANDING AND COMMON VALUES WITHIN A COMMUNITY.  AND WHEREAS JEFF WAS A WONDERFUL AND KIND HUMAN BEING WHO BROUGHT JOY, CREATIVITY AND VALUABLE PROGRAMING TO BLOOMINGTON COMMUNITY ACCESS TELEVISION.  AND. WHEREAS, BLOOMINGTON COMMUNITY ACCESS TELEVISION PLAYS A VITAL ROLE IN BUILDING OUR COMMUNITY BY ENCOURAGING CONVERSATIONS OUR COMMON INTERESTS, INCREASING DISCOURSE AROUND POLICY ISSUES ,FOSTERING UNDERSTANDING OF LOCAL CULTURES AND SHARING INFORMATION TO OUR LIVES. NOW THEREFORE I'M MAYOR TIM BUSSEY DO HEREBY OCTOBER 20TH ,2024 AS JEFF MACGILLIS MEDIA DAY WITHIN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON DATED THIS 14TH DAY OF OCTOBER 2024. I MET JEFF I THINK ONCE OR TWICE AND DIDN'T GET TO KNOW HIM WELL BUT KNOW THAT THERE WERE PLENTY OF MEMBERS OF THIS COMMUNITY WHO NOT ONLY KNEW HIM WELL BUT KNEW HIM VERY WELL AND UNDERSTOOD THE WORK THAT HE WAS DOING AND REALLY APPRECIATED THE WORK THAT HE WAS DOING. AND ONE OF THEM WAS JANINE HILL. OUR COMMUNICATIONS GURU WITHIN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. JANINE AND I CALL YOU NOW AND I KNOW YOU'VE GOT SOME WORDS AND I THINK WE ALSO HAVE A VIDEO OF JEFF AS THANK YOU, MAYOR MASSEY AND THANK YOU FOR JEFF MACGILLIS COMMUNITY MEDIA DAY RECOGNITION FOR ITS CITY OF BLOOMINGTON'S TELEVISION AND VIDEO PROGRAMING WHICH INCLUDES OUR PUBLIC EDUCATION AND CHANNELS.  IN FACT VIEWERS ARE WATCHING LOCAL PROGRAMING RIGHT NOW WITH THE STREAMING AND CABLE CARS CASTING OF THIS COUNCIL MEETING.  AS YOU JUST READ, MAYOR. JEFF WAS A LONGTIME PRODUCER, A MAJOR CONTRIBUTOR TO OUR CABLE ACCESS PROGRAMING. JEFF ALSO SPENT THE MAJORITY OF HIS LIFE IN BLOOMINGTON GRADUATING FROM JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL AND WORKING FOR AT THE MSP AIRPORT FOR MORE THAN 20 YEARS. HE AWAY LAST MARCH. HIS BROTHER TOM ORIGINALLY FROM BLOOMINGTON NOW RESIDING IN GREENVILLE, SOUTH CAROLINA IS WATCHING TONIGHT ALONG WITH OTHER FAMILY AND FRIENDS. TOM SAID JEFF WAS HONORED TO BE A PRODUCER IN HIS BELOVED CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. HIS CINEMA JUDGE BROUGHT JEFF IMMENSE JOY. WE ALL MISS GREATLY AND ARE SO PLEASED THAT YOU HAVE PROCLAIMED THIS YEAR'S COMMUNITY DAY IN HONOR OF HIM. LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT ONE OF THE VIDEOS PRODUCED ABOUT JEFF AND HIS SHOW CINEMA JUDGE . NOW THE THING ABOUT JOHN MY SHOW IS CALLED A CINEMA JUDGE. I'VE BEEN IT'S ABOUT KIND OF MOVIE REVIEWS BUT BASICALLY ABOUT MOVIE PROMOTION. IT SAYS HERE'S THE EVIDENCE. HERE'S INTERVIEWS FROM THE STARS.  CLIPS FROM THE MOVIE. BEHIND THE SCENES IMAGES. SO PEOPLE GET A WELL-ROUNDED IMAGE OF THE FILM BEFORE.  THEY GO AND SEE IT AND THEY COULD DECIDE FOR THEMSELVES DO I WANT TO SEE THIS MOVIE? THE IDEA OF THE SHOW CAME I WAS I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO. I LOVE MOVIES AND I GO I WANT THEM SIMPLE. AND I DIDN'T WANT TO WORRY ABOUT CLOTHING DAY AND WHAT HAVE YOU IN A FRIEND OF MINE TO.  A FRIEND OF MINE. AND SHE SAYS, WELL, WHY DO YOU LIKE A JUDGE SHOW?  BECAUSE THEY'RE SO POPULAR. EVERYBODY JUDGE THIS JUDGE THAT I SAID HEY, IN THAT WAY I CAN JUST PUT ON A LITTLE ROBE AND NOT WORRY ABOUT THE SUIT AND TIE LOOKING GOOD OR WHATEVER YOU JUST PUT ON YOUR ROBE.  VOILA. OH, HE HAD A HALLOWEEN SHOP AND I RAN INTO AN OLD COWORKER HE SAYS YEAH, HE'S WORKING FOR THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AT THE CABLE ACCESS CHANNEL. SO I WATCHED THE TV, I SAW HIS NAME IN THE CREDITS. SO I CALLED UP AND I SAID, HEY, COME ON UP. I WOULD LOVE TO DO A SHOW. I LOVE TO DO A MOVIE WITH HIM SHOW SOME MOVIES AND THEN BONE RUSSELL IS JUST HISTORY. I CAME IN . ANYBODY COULD DO A SHOW AND,  GET RECOGNIZED A COUPLE OF TIMES LIKE LIKE IN A GROCERY STORE ONCE A COUPLE OF ON THE LIGHT RAIL AFTER A VIKINGS GAME SOMEBODY SAID HEY, YOU KNOW I LOVE YOUR SHOW ME MY FAMILY. WATCH IT ALL THE TIME LIKE DOING A SHOW AT THE ACAD JUST TOP NOTCH THE BEST EQUIPMENT, THE BEST PEOPLE, GREAT VIEWERS. YOU CAN'T ASK FOR A INSTITUTION IN A PLACE IF YOU HAVE ANY KIND OF SHOW IDEA IT CAN HAPPEN HERE.  THANK YOU.  WELL, I I RECOGNIZED A HANDFUL OF THOSE CLIPS AND MY FAVORITE OF COURSE WAS THE VOLLEYBALL SCENE FROM MEET THE FOCKERS. BUT THEN THAT SAYS MORE ABOUT ME. I THINK I ASK IF YOU'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH JUST FAMILIES YOU STILL THE CONNECTIONS IF YOU PLEASE FORWARD THIS ON TO THEM AND CONGRATULATE THEM AND THEM HOW HAPPY AND PROUD WE ARE THAT FOR JEFF'S CONTRIBUTIONS FOR THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. SO THANK YOU. THANKS. THANK YOU  ADAM THREE ON OUR A AGENDA TONIGHT ON 2.3 UNDER THE INTRODUCTORY ITEMS IS A RUNDOWN OF THE COMMUNICATIONS AWARDS ONE VERY COMMUNICATION STAFF OVER THE PAST YEAR AND AS I SAID IT'S GENERALLY A WHEELBARROW FULL AND I KNOW IT IS ONCE AGAIN THIS YEAR SO WHILE WELCOME BACK TO JANINE HILL THANK YOU MAYOR ABBASI AND GOOD EVENING COUNCIL MEMBERS I AM PLEASED TO PRESENT TO YOU I'M GOING TO BRING THIS I AM PLEASED TO PRESENT YOU THREE NATIONAL AWARDS FROM THE CITY THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON RECEIVED LAST MONTH FOR ITS COMMUNICATION EFFORTS THE CITY COUNTY AND MARKETING ASSOCIATION OR THREE CMA SAVVY AWARDS RECOGNIZE OUTSTANDING ACHIEVEMENTS IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT COMMUNICATIONS CELEBRATING CREATIVITY, INNOVATION AND EXCELLENCE IN ENGAGING COMMUNITIES. THE COMPETITION ESTABLISHED IN 1988 RECEIVED A RECORD 1000 ENTRIES THIS YEAR FROM ACROSS THE COUNTRY SHOWCASING THE BEST IN PUBLIC INFORMATION MARKETING AND COMMUNITY OUTREACH EFFORTS.  THIS YEAR THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON RECEIVED THREE HONORS A FIRST PLACE SAVVY AWARD ALONG WITH SECOND AND THIRD PLACE AWARDS RECOGNIZING EXCELLENCE AND CONNECTING WITH OUR RESIDENTS AND PROMOTING KEY INITIATIVES.  I THINK WE ALL BELONG IN THE CITY.  WE ALL BELONG IN CITY HALL. WE ALL DO OKAY.  IT'S GOING A LITTLE SLOW. THERE WE GO.  THE BLOOMINGTON BRIEFING RECEIVED SORRY. GO GO  ME WE WERE JUST A LITTLE HERE THE BLOOMINGTON BRIEFING THIRD PLACE IN EXTERNAL PUBLICATIONS CATEGORY THE BRIEFING HAS RECEIVED 35 NATIONAL AND REGIONAL AWARDS OVER THE PAST 20 YEARS FOR CREATIVELY COMMUNICATING RELEVANT AND COMMUNITY BUILDING INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC, JUDGES SAID THE DESIGN AND HIGH QUALITY PHOTOGRAPHY REALLY MAKE THIS SHINE.  THE CONTENT IS RELEVANT AND WIDE RANGING FOR MEMBERS. ALL GOALS WERE MET WITH THIS NEWSLETTER NICE JOB THE NOTABLE NEIGHBOR VIDEO SERIES EARNED SECOND PLACE IN THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED PROGRAMING CATEGORY NOTABLE NEIGHBORS NOTABLE NEIGHBOR STORIES AMPLIFY OUR COMMUNITY IMAGE STRATEGIC PRIORITY BY CELEBRATING BLOOMINGTON RESIDENTS WHO HAVE SIGNIFICANT PERSONAL AND PROFESSIONAL ACHIEVEMENTS OR POSITIVELY CONTRIBUTE TO THE COMMUNITY JUDGES SAID I LOVE THAT THE SERIES WAS TAKEN A STEP FURTHER AND THE MAYOR INVITED SOME OF THOSE FEATURED TO COME UP DURING THE STATE OF THE CITY AN AWESOME TO KEEP THE CONVERSATION GOING THE B-ROLL AND AUDIO IS WELL DONE ON THIS SERIES. I THINK THE TIMING OF THEM IS PERFECT.  IT'S A GOOD AMOUNT OF INFORMATION BUT NOT TOO LONG WHERE YOU GET DISTRACTED UNINTERESTED.  FANTASTIC WORK HIGHLIGHTING THE INCREDIBLE IN YOUR COMMUNITY.  LET'S TAKE A LOOK.  WE ALL BELONG IN THE CITY. WE ALL BELONG IN CITY HALL. WE ALL BELONG IN THE BUILDINGS IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WE LIVE IN . WE ALL BELONG IN THE SO HOW DO WE COME TOGETHER IN A BETTER WAY WHERE?  WE CAN ACKNOWLEDGE EACH OTHER'S CULTURES, OUR FOODS, OUR LANGUAGES, OUR MUSIC.  IT FEELS LIKE I HAVE THESE TWO NEW TRAJECTORIES THAT ARE JUST RUNNING PARALLEL TO EACH OTHER AND I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHERE THEY'RE GOING BUT IT FEELS POSITIVE. I WANT OTHER PEOPLE WATCHING MY VIDEO NOT JUST CAMBODIAN PEOPLE HERE BUT CAMBODIAN AROUND THE WORLD. THEY BELIEVE IN ITSELF AND MAYBE IT'D BE LIKE IF YOU CAN DO IT I CAN DO IT TOO.  THE CITY BLOOMINGTON FORWARD VOTER EDUCATION PLAN WAS HONORED WITH THE FIRST PLACE SAVVY AWARD IN THE COMMUNICATIONS OR MARKETING PLANS CATEGORY. THE CAMPAIGN THE TOP AWARD FOR ITS EFFECTIVENESS IN EDUCATING THE PUBLIC ABOUT THE PROPOSED LOCAL OPTION SALES TAX JUDGES SAID THE CAMPAIGN CLEARLY IDENTIFIED THE PROBLEM AND OPPORTUNITY AND ACHIEVED VOTER AWARENESS ABOUT THE IMPACTS OF THE TAX.  THE MONTHSLONG EFFORT TO ACHIEVE OUR MAJOR GOALS INCLUDED INFORMING AND EDUCATING VOTERS ABOUT ALL ASPECTS OF THE SALES TAX AND INCREASE IN AWARENESS OF THE THREE PROJECTS BLOOMINGTON ICE GARDEN, NINE MILE CREEK AND THE NEW COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER ALONG THE FACILITY NEEDS IMPROVEMENT PLANS THE BENEFITS AND COSTS.  THE CITY'S COMMITMENT WAS TO ENSURE THAT WHEN VOTERS FILLED IN THEIR BALLOTS THEY THOROUGHLY UNDERSTOOD THE QUESTIONS.  WE USED ALL CITY COMMUNICATIONS PLATFORMS TO GET THE WORD OUT INCLUDING THE MONTHLY BRIEFING VIDEO, SOCIAL MEDIA AND OTHER PRINT AND MEDIA MATERIALS. WE HELD 19 IN-PERSON ENGAGEMENTS AT VARIOUS EVENTS INCLUDING OUR FARMERS MARKETS RECYCLING EVENTS AND OTHER COMMUNITY GATHERINGS. WE DISTRIBUTED FLIERS AND SPOKE WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND ANSWER THEIR QUESTIONS LAST NOVEMBER ALL THREE BALLOT QUESTIONS PASSED AND THERE WAS HIGH TO HIGHER.  THERE WAS HIGH VOTER AWARENESS ONLY 1.2 TO 1.4% OF VOTERS LEFT THE QUESTIONS A SIGNIFICANT DECREASE ACCORDING TO OUR CITY CLERK FROM THE TYPICAL 5 TO 8% WHO LEAVE QUESTIONSLANK DEMONSTRATING THE EFFECTIVENESS OF EDUCATIONAL EFFORTS AND STAFF AND JUDGES REPORTED MINIMAL INQUIRIES ABOUT THE SALES TAX QUESTIONS INDICATING THAT VOTERS FELT WELL-INFORMED AND PREPARED.  JUDGES PRAISED THE CAMPAIGN'S STRONG UNDERSTAND OF THE TARGET AUDIENCE COMPREHENSIVE COMMUNICATION STRATEGIES AND USE OF DIGITAL MEDIA AND BRANDING. THEY CONCLUDED THEIR COMMENTS GREAT JOB IN ALL THE MONEY SPENT ON THE EDUCATIONAL EFFORT WAS ONLY 0.04% OF THE $155 MILLION INVESTMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY A FANTASTIC RETURN ON INVESTMENT.  THERE WERE MANY STAFF INVOLVED IN THE BLOOMINGTON FORWARD INITIATIVE TO GET THE WORD OUT ABOUT THE PROJECTS AND THE POTENTIAL FUNDING SOURCE.  A VERY SPECIAL THANKS TO FORMER COMMUNITY SERVICES DIRECTOR DIANE KIRBY WHO LED THE EFFORT. HER LEADERSHIP WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN SUCCESS OF OUR COMMUNICATIONS OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT AND TO PUBLIC HEALTH ADMINISTRATOR NICK KELLEY AND COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT MANAGER MANAGER ERIC HOLTHAUS AND HIS TEAMS. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THE TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF EFFORT BY PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR ANN KATRI AND HER TEAM PUBLIC WORKS ENGINEERING BOB SIMONDS ALONG WITH MANY OTHER PUBLIC WORKS STAFF AND VOLUNTEERS AND OF COURSE A BIG THANKS AND CONGRATULATIONS TO COMMUNICATIONS FOR THEIR EXTRAORDINARY EFFORTS TO INFORM AND ENGAGE THE PUBLIC.  AND FINALLY WE ADDED THESE AWARDS TO THE TEN AWARDS BLOOMINGTON COMMUNICATIONS RECEIVED FROM THE MINNESOTA OF GOVERNMENT COMMUNICATORS EARLIER THIS YEAR THAT CITY JAMIE FAROOQUI HIGHLIGHTED AT A COUNCIL MEETING IN JULY AND MGC HAS CONTEST BLOOMINGTON RECEIVED 4/1 PLACE NORTHERN LIGHTS AWARDS FOR SILVER AWARDS AND A BRONZE AWARD AND I AM EXTREMELY PROUD AND HONORED TO HAVE RECEIVED MAGIC'S LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT AWARD. THANK YOU MAYOR BUSSEY AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR ALLOWING ME TO SHOWCASE COMMUNICATIONS AND OUR RECOGNITION RECOGNITION THIS YEAR.  WELL, THANK YOU, JANINE AND THANK YOU TO ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNICATIONS STAFF AND THE REST OF THE CITY STAFF WHO AS YOU MENTIONED PLAYED A LARGE ROLE IN A LOT OF WHAT WE DO AND WHAT YOU DO IN TERMS OF TRYING TO GET THE WORD OUT, TRYING TO MAKE SURE IT ALL WORKS. SO COUNCIL WENT SHORTLY AFTER THE EARTH COOLED WHEN I AT THE LEAGUE OF MINNESOTA CITIES I WORKED IN COMMUNICATIONS EVEN THEN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON WAS LIKE THE GOLD STANDARD IN TERMS OF COMMUNICATIONS ACROSS THE STATE OF MINNESOTA AND ACROSS THE UPPER MIDWEST. AND SO IT'S IT'S INTERESTING TO SEE THAT THIS ISN'T JUST A KIND OF A ONE OFF OR IS IT JUST KIND OF A BLIP ON THE ON THE RADAR SCREEN? THIS HAS BEEN HAPPENING WITHIN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON FOR PLUS YEARS AND THIS OUTSTANDING WORK AND IT'S GREAT TO HEAR THE BRIEFING 35 AWARDS IN 20 DIFFERENT 20 YEARS. I MEAN INCREDIBLE TO THINK ABOUT THAT THIS LONG TERM SUSTAINED EFFORT OF NOT ONLY COMMUNICATING JUST GETTING THE WORD WHICH IS THE IMPORTANT PART ABOUT IT BUT DOING IT IN SUCH A WAY THAT ENGAGES AND INFORM AND CONNECTS WITH PEOPLE, ENTERTAINS AND IS IS EASY TO LOOK AT AND IT IS DELIGHTFUL TO LOOK AT IS JUST IT SAYS A LOT SO CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU. CONGRATULATIONS MR. BROOKIE ON MAKING THE COMMUNICATION STAFF SUCH A PRIORITY AND MOVING THIS FORWARD COUNCIL GOOD WORK ON THE COMMITMENT TO COMMUNICATIONS THAT CONTINUE AROUND.  WELL DONE. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR THE OUTSTANDING WORK THAT YOU DO MORE FOR THE TROPHY CASE. IT'S GREAT TO SEE WE WILL MOVE ON TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA THIS EVENING 15 ITEMS IN COUNCILMEMBER HAS OUR CONSENT BUSINESS COUNCILMEMBER THANK YOU MAYOR I ONLY HAVE ONE HOLD SO FAR ANYBODY ELSE LAST CALL. ALL RIGHT NOTHING ELSE THEN.  COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO, WE'RE HOLDING ITEM 3.9 SO I WILL MOVE ITEMS 3.1 THROUGH 3.8 AND 3.10 THROUGH 3.15 AS STATED SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN TO ACCEPT TONIGHT'S CONSENT BUSINESS AS STATED NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS MERCER CARTER I MUA I LOWMAN NO NELSON OWEN RIVAS I D'ALESSANDRO MAYOR BUSSEY I MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO THE ONE HOLDOUT AND 3.9 COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THANK YOU MR. I DON'T REALLY HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS. I THOUGHT MAYBE I COULD GET A CLARIFICATION I GUESS ON A COUPLE OF FRONTS ONE BEING IT FEELS LIKE THIS IN TERMS OF THE OVERALL FOOTPRINT OF THE PLAT IT DOES NOT CHANGE IT'S JUST WITHIN THE BOUNDS OF THE PLAT. THEY ARE MAKING CHANGES TO THE FOOTPRINT EACH OF THE INDIVIDUAL TOWNHOMES IS THAT EVERYBODY ELSE IS READING ON THIS IS THAT THE CORRECT WAY TO TO READ THIS THAT THIS IS 3.9 AND YES, THAT WAS THE WAY I WAS READING IT. YES. OKAY.  I SEE MR. KIRKEGAARD IS KIND OF NODDING AS WELL. YES. OKAY, VERY GOOD.  SO AS WE ALL KNOW I'M RIGHT I DECIDED HOLD THIS LARGELY BECAUSE I WANTED TO DRAW ATTENTION TO IT JUST BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT PEOPLE WITHIN THIS AREA WHO ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THIS REMAIN VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT. YOU KNOW, I KNOW BEFORE MY TIME THIS WAS A CONTROVERSIAL THING.  I KNOW YOU KNOW COUNCILMEMBER CARTER AND YOU, MR. MAYOR VOTED NOT TO APPROVE IT IN THE FIRST PLACE AND THEN WE WENT THROUGH A LOT OF RIGMAROLE AND ENDED UP BEING SUED AND NOW WE'RE GOING FORWARD. THERE'S NOT WHOLE LOT WE CAN DO HERE ABOUT IT. BUT GIVEN THE FACT THAT THERE'S A LOT OF INTEREST IN THE COMMUNITY AROUND THIS I WANTED TO HOLD IT JUST MAKE SURE PEOPLE KNEW THAT THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT THERE'S MAYBE PROGRESS HAPPENING AND WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO GET SOMETHING BUILT HERE IF WE CAN GET THIS PLANT OVER THE LINE WHICH WOULD BE MUCH BETTER THAN THE EYESORE THAT IT IS RIGHT NOW WITH THE BASICALLY,  YOU KNOW, DIRT LOT THAT IT IS SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A A TIMELINE WE CAN COUNT ON NOW FOR THIS TO ACTUALLY MOVE FORWARD GIVEN THIS IS MAYBE ONE OF THE FINAL STEPS, DO WE DO WE KNOW ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION I WOULD LOOK TO STAFF PERHAPS THEY MIGHT HAVE SOME INPUT FOR US.  GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME YEAH GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO I JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE A LITTLE UPDATE FROM FROM WHAT I HEARD WERE TALKING WITH THE DEVELOPER THROUGH THIS THE PLANT BECAUSE OF THE ADJUSTMENT IN THEIR FLOOR PLANS THEY HAD TO COME BACK AND REVISE THE PLANT AND SO AFTER THIS THEY'D BE THERE'S A MINOR REVISION TO FINAL DEVELOPMENT THAT'S UNDER STAFF REVIEW AT THIS TIME THAT WOULD BE APPROVED AFTER PLAT APPROVAL AND THEN THE LATEST UPDATE THEY GOT FROM THE DEVELOPERS THEY WOULD WANT TO START CONSTRUCTION IN THE SPRING. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ENOUGH TIME NOW AS WINTER APPROACHES AND THE GROUND FREEZES FOR THEM TO GET THEIR IN ON THOSE UNITS. BUT SPRING IS THE GOAL. OKAY.  AND THE THE THE MINOR CHANGES THAT WE HAVE HERE MOSTLY TO FOOTPRINT LIKE YOU SAID THAT DOESN'T CHANGE THE OVERALL TIMELINE REQUIREMENT FOR THIS APPROVED PROJECT TO BE UNDERWAY IN A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME.  I UNDERSTANDING IS THERE'S USUALLY LIKE A YEAR AND THEN WE GAVE THEM AN EXTENSION RECENTLY SO THEY THEM WE GAVE ANOTHER YEAR IS THAT RIGHT. SO JULY TIMEFRAME NEXT YEAR.  YEAH. ARE COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO SO YEAH THAT EXTENSION THAT WAS APPROVED RECENTLY WAS FOR PREVIOUS PLAT SO IT WAS KIND OF TO KIND OF COVER ALL OF THEIR BASES.  SO IF THIS PLANT WOULD BE APPROVED TONIGHT I BELIEVE THE PLANT HAS A TWO YEAR DEADLINE THAT HAVE TO RECORD IT WITH THE COUNTY AND THEN THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLANS I BELIEVE DO HAVE A YEAR FROM APPROVAL. SO THEORETICALLY OCTOBER OF 2025 WOULD BE KIND OF THEIR NEXT DEADLINE SOME OF OUR PLANNING APPROVALS. OKAY, GREAT. ALL RIGHT. WELL AT LEAST WE'VE GOT SOME MORE INFORMATION OUT THERE AND IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S SOME LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS CLEAR. WITH THAT I WILL MOVE. THANK YOU MR. CURL THANK YOU. YEAH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH WITH THAT MR. MAYOR, I'LL BE HAPPY TO MOVE 3.9 I MOVED TO APPROVE THE PRELIMINARY PLAT AND ADOPT A RESOLUTION APPROVING FINAL PLAT FOR PAN LAKE CITY HOMES SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS AND CO TWO REQUIREMENTS ATTACHED IN THE STAFF REPORT SAYING MOST OF MY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO CIRCLED MY COUNCILMEMBER TO ACCEPT ITEM 3.9 ANTONY'S CONSENT BUSINESS NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS VERY GOOD TIME MS. MAYOR MAYOR MERCER ONE OF THOSE NAMES I WAS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD SORRY SO FAR ALL GOOD CARTER I MUA I LOWMAN NELSON RIVAS DALLESSANDRO MAYOR BUSSEY I MOTION CARRIES IT SEVEN ZERO THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER FOR YOUR WORK TONIGHT'S CONSENT AGENDA WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM FOUR ON OUR AGENDA THIS EVENING OUR HEARINGS ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS AND WE'RE GONNA START WITH ITEM 4.1. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO ACCEPT THE CORRECTED 2024 2025 CDBG ANNUAL ACTION PLAN AND BUDGET KENNY NIEMEYER RETIRED HOUSING DEVELOPMENT SPECIALIST TRADE IS HERE GOOD EVENING MAYOR COUNCILMEMBERS SO THIS WILL BE A FAMILIAR ITEM. YOU'VE SEEN THIS PLAN BEFORE AND TONIGHT WHERE WE'RE CONSIDERING CORRECTIONS TO THE PLAN SO I'LL JUST GO THROUGH BROADLY CABG THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT IS A FUNDING ALLOCATION FROM THE HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.  WE ARE ONE OF THE FEW ENTITLEMENT COMMUNITIES OUT OF HENNEPIN COUNTY WHICH MEANS WE RECEIVE THAT FUNDING DIRECTLY WHICH ALLOWS US TO HAVE MORE OVERSIGHT OF HOW THOSE FUNDS GET UTILIZED. ALL THE FUNDS GO TO SERVE LOW AND MODERATE INCOME HOUSEHOLDS . WE ALSO PARTNER WITH THE COUNTY IN CREATING THE CONSOLIDATED PLAN FOR USAGE OF THOSE FUNDS. SO WE'RE WITHIN THE 2020 TO 2024 CON PLAN PERIOD FOR CDBG. I'M WILL SOON BE WORKING WITH THE COUNTY ON THE SUBSEQUENT ACTION PLAN FOR 25 TO 29 BUT TONIGHT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE 2024 ANNUAL ACTION PLAN IN FRONT OF YOU AS THE TIMELINE OF STEPS THAT HAVE BEEN TAKEN AND HOPEFULLY WILL BE FOR THIS PLAN. SO YOU ACTUALLY CONSIDERED APPROVED THIS PLAN BACK IN APRIL 15TH OF THIS YEAR.  WE THEN RECEIVED FROM HUD OF OUR ACTUAL ALLOCATION FOR OUR CITY DG FOR THIS YEAR WHICH WAS AN INCREASE OF WHAT WE WERE ESTIMATING AND WE WERE THEN NOTIFIED IN JUNE THAT WE NEEDED TO MAKE CORRECTIONS TO OUR PLAN TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT INCREASE.  AND ALSO THERE HAVE BEEN SOME ADMINISTRATIVE CHANGES TO ADMINISTRATIVE GUIDANCE FROM HUD ON WHAT FUNDING NEEDS TO BE INCLUDED IN THE ANNUAL ACTION PLAN SO I CAN SPEAK TO THAT LATER WE HAD A NEW PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD WHICH OPENED ON AUGUST 30TH AND CLOSED ON OCTOBER SECOND.  WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY COMMENTS DURING THAT PERIOD. THE HRA HELD A PUBLIC HEARING ON OCTOBER 8TH AT WHICH MEETING WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN TONIGHT WE WOULD HOPE TO HOLD PUBLIC COMMENT A PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE PLAN FOR SUBMISSION TO HUD. ONCE WE GET THIS PLAN BY HUD WILL RECEIVE OUR FUNDING AND CAN START PUTTING IT TOWARD THE PROGRAMS OUTLINED IN THAT PLAN. SO FOR THIS PROGRAM YEAR THE 2024 PROGRAM YEAR WE HAVE AN ESTIMATED BUDGET OF OUR FIRST IN $75,000 AND CHANGE ALLOCATION AND THEN WE'RE ESTIMATING AROUND $30,000 TO COME IN VIA REPAYMENT OF OUR HOMEOWNER REHAB LOANS. SO EVERY YEAR WE GET FUNDING WE GET FUNDS THAT COME BACK FROM REPAYMENT OF THOSE LOANS AND WERE THEN TO REPROGRAM THAT FUNDING AS THE AS WE SEE FIT AND AS OUTLINED IN OUR ANNUAL ACTION PLAN I'VE ALSO CALLED OUT FUNDING THAT WAS IDENTIFIED IN THE PREVIOUS PLAN THAT YOU SAW AND FUNDING THAT WAS RECEIVED IN PREVIOUS YEARS AND WAS ALLOCATED FOR CERTAIN ACTIVITIES BUT WASN'T YET EXPENDED IN PREVIOUS YEARS. WE'VE IDENTIFIED THAT IN OUR PLAN  WE WERE TOLD BY HUD LEAVE THAT OUT. THAT'S MONEY THAT'S ALREADY BEEN ALLOCATED TO AN ACTIVITY. SO UNLESS YOU'RE CHANGING THAT PREVIOUS ALLOCATION THEN WE'RE NOT TO INCLUDE IT IN OUR ANNUAL ACTION PLAN SO THAT IS REFLECTED IN THIS BUDGET. YOU'LL SEE THE LEFT TABLE ARE THOSE FUNDS THAT WE'VE TAKEN OUT OF THIS ACTION PLAN BUT YOU'LL STILL SEE THOSE FUNDS DEPLOYED FOR THE ACTIVITIES THAT THEY WERE ALLOCATED TO.  AND SO TONIGHT I WILL BE HOLDING A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE CURRENT YEAR ENTITLEMENT AND ESTIMATED PROGRAM INCOME AND WHAT THAT I CAN TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU MR. NIEMEYER ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. NIEMEYER THIS EVENING SO I HAVE A QUESTION WE'VE SEEN THESE IN THE PAST THESE COME FORWARD EVERY YEAR OBVIOUSLY DO WE ALWAYS DO A CORRECTED LIKE THIS IS THERE IS THERE IS A NEED TO DO IT OR DID HUD KIND OF THROW US A CURVE BALL THIS YEAR A BIT MARICON SOME MEMBERS I CAN'T SPEAK TO PREVIOUS YEARS AT BLOOMINGTON BUT IN MY EXPERIENCE ADMINISTERING CABG PROGRAMS IT'S NOT UNCOMMON TO GET DENIALS FROM HUD FOR ANNUAL ACTION PLANS. THIS GUIDANCE THAT WE RECEIVED TO NOT INCLUDE THE PRIOR YEAR FUNDS IS NEW AND THAT WAS THE THE MAIN REASON FOR DENIAL. SO IF WE FOLLOW THAT GUIDANCE FOR THE NEXT YEAR I WOULDN'T ANTICIPATE THE NEED FOR A CORRECTION LIKE THIS. GOT IT. THANK YOU.  ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.  THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW ON ITEM 4.1. PUBLIC HEARING TO ACCEPT THE CORRECTED 2024 2025 CDBG ANNUAL ACTION PLAN AND BUDGET. ANYONE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS WISHING TO SPEAK TO ITEM POINT ONE THIS EVENING?  MR. SALZMAN, DO WE HAVE ANYONE ON THE PHONE WISHING TO SPEAK TONIGHT?  MR. MAYOR, THERE'S NO ONE ONLINE LAST CALL FOR ANYBODY IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. COUNCIL NO COMING FORWARD.  NO ONE ON THE PHONE. I WOULD LOOK FOR A MOTION CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING IN ITEM 4.1 SAYING A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER MOUA TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 4.1. NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. MISS MERCER MUIR I LOWMAN HIGH NELSON RIVAS RIGHT. DALLESSANDRO CARTER I AM MAYOR. I MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING. COUNSELOR QUESTIONS ON THIS ANYTHING TO BRING FORWARD? IF NOT I WILL LOOK FOR ACTION. COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO HAPPY TO MAKE THAT ACTION BUT I WOULD SAY I THOUGHT THIS WAS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD AND DIDN'T A LOT OF CONVERSATION ON IT I GUESS.  FORGIVE ME, MR. MAYOR, WHEN WILL THE TIME BE THAT WE ACTUALLY GET THE ANNUAL REPORT FROM THE FROM LAST YEAR'S ACTIVITIES IN TERMS OF HOW WE DID WITH THE FUNDING WITH THE MAYOR COUNCILMEMBERS. SO OUR PREVIOUS YEAR FOR 28 FOR THE PROGRAM THE YEAR 2023 WHICH CONCLUDED ON JUNE 30TH OF THIS YEAR THE CAPPER WHICH IS THE CONSOLIDATED ANNUAL PERFORMANCE AND EVALUATION REPORT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED TO HUD AND WE'RE I BELIEVE WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR FINAL APPROVAL AND HAVE REPORTED THOSE INITIAL FINDINGS TO OUR HRA SO THOSE COULD BE SHARED WITH THE COUNCIL. WELL IMAGINE GREAT GREAT.  VERY GOOD. WONDERFUL. WITH THAT MR. MAYOR I'LL MOVE TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION TO ACCEPT THE CORRECTED 2024 2025 CDBG ANNUAL ACTION PLAN AND BUDGET FOR SUBMISSION AND AUTHORIZING RELATED ACTIONS. MOST OF MY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO SECOND MY COUNCILMEMBER TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE CORRECTED 2024 2025 CDBG ANNUAL ACTION PLAN BUDGET FOR THE COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS IS MERCER LOWMAN HIGH NELSON HIGH RIVER'S HIGH SANDRA HIGH CARTER HIGH MUA AND MAYOR BETSY. MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO. THANK YOU VERY MR. NIEMEYER.  WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM POINT TWO. OUR SECOND PUBLIC HEARING OF THE HEARING THIS IS REGARDING RENTAL HOUSING CODE AMENDMENTS.  LYNNE MOUA, ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH MANAGER IS WITH US THIS EVENING GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME. GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.  AND THEN COULD I ASK YOU TO PULL THE MICROPHONE JUST A TOUCH CLOSER TO YOU TO MAKE SURE WE CAN GET IT ALL? THANK YOU.  SO HERE'S A QUICK OVERVIEW WHAT I'LL BE PRESENTING ON TONIGHT AND WE'LL START WITH THE CODE CHANGES.  SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MINOR CODE UPDATES AND THEY INCLUDE REMOVING THE REQUIREMENT FOR STATE LICENSED GROUP HOMES HAVING SIX OR FEWER AND THEY WOULD NO LONGER TO HAVE A CITY RENTAL LICENSE AND THIS NEW UNDER STATUTE MINNESOTA STATUTES 144 G .45 SUBDIVISION THREE THAT WENT INTO EFFECT LAST MAY ALSO ADOPTING THE CURRENT VERSION OF THE INTERNATIONAL PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE WHICH IS THE 2024 VERSION. IT'S NOT A LOT DIFFERENT THAN THE 2021 VERSION WE'RE USING NOW MINOR TO THE APPLICATION PROCESS ALLOWING THE HOUSING INSPECTOR TO MAKE A FEW REASONABLE EXCEPTIONS AND EXTEND THE APPLICATION PERIOD BEYOND THE 60 DAY REQUIREMENT . AND LASTLY SOME UPDATES FOR CLARITY WHEN ASSESSING REINSPECTION FEES AND REMOVING SOME LICENSE REQUIREMENTS WE WITHOUT POSTING LICENSES A GREAT IDEA BACK IN 2014 BUT IT'S JUST NOT VERY IN RENTAL HOUSING REQUIRING PEOPLE TO PUT UP LIKE OUR OUR LICENSE AND A RENTED HOUSE OR SO WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THAT OUT NOW SO LICENSE FEES IN 2014 CITY COUNCIL DISCUSSED AND ADOPTED A NEW RENTAL HOUSING CODE AND A NEW LICENSE FEE STRUCTURE OVER THE PAST TEN YEARS THERE HAVE BEEN A COUPLE OF 3% ACROSS ALL LICENSE CATEGORY INCREASES THAT WERE MADE BUT THEY KIND OF DEMONSTRATE THAT FEES HAVE INCREASED LITTLE AND ARE NOT KEEPING UP WITH OUR BUDGET COSTS FOR PROVIDING ROBUST LICENSING AND INSPECTION PROGRAM. THEREFORE OPTIONS HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED FOR CITY COUNCIL CONSIDERATION.  OPTION ONE WOULD COVER ABOUT 2% OF OUR PROJECTED 2025 PROGRAM COSTS WHILE OPTION IS ESTIMATED TO BE VERY CLOSE TO FULLY COVERING PROGRAM COSTS.  AND YOU KNOW WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? WELL HERE'S SOME EXAMPLES OF APPLYING OPTION ONE AN OPTION TWO FOR A 50 UNIT APARTMENT BUILDING.  ONE WOULD RESULT IN AN INCREASE PER MONTH OF APPROXIMATELY $0.57 PER UNIT AND $0.93 PER UNIT PER MONTH FOR OPTION TWO FOR 100 UNIT BUILDING OPTION ONE INCREASES IN THE ANNUAL FEE WOULD IN A 53 CENT PER MONTH PER INCREASE AND $0.84 PER MONTH PER UNIT AND OPTION TWO SO THOSE ARE FAIRLY LOW THE THE GREATER INCREASE WOULD BE FOR RENTED HOUSE THE INCREASE PROPOSED UNDER OPTION WOULD BE AN INCREASE OF $3.75 PER MONTH AND UNDER OPTION TO WOULD BE $5.83 PER MONTH FOR OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT WE GATHERED INPUT THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS BY MAILING POSTCARDS TO THE 1068 RENTAL LICENSEES KEEPING IN MIND YOU KNOW SOME LICENSEES HAVE MULTIPLE PROPERTIES THE POSTCARD SUMMARIZED THE PROPOSED CHANGES DIRECTED LICENSEES TO THE RENTAL HOUSING WEB PAGE WHERE THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS AND FEES WERE ARE STILL ARE POSTED ACTUALLY AND ENCOURAGED FEEDBACK TO ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH SIX LICENSEES ALL CONDO OR HOUSE OWNERS PROVIDED FEEDBACK.  FIVE OF THE SIX SAID THE PROPOSED FEES WERE TOO MUCH OF AN INCREASE AND SAID IT WOULD LEAD TO INCREASED RENT .  WE ALSO APPLIED RACIAL EQUITY IMPACT ASSESSMENT TOOL TO REVIEW THESE PROPOSED POLICY CHANGES MAINLY RENTAL FEES AND IN IN THINKING ABOUT THIS 36% OF ALL DWELLING UNITS IN THE CITY HAVE A RENTAL LICENSE SO THAT ALL DWELLING UNITS HOUSE APARTMENT THEM ALL TOGETHER 36% HAVE A RENT A LICENSE IF YOU LOOK AT JUST SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES 6% OF OUR SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES A RENTAL LICENSE. JUST TO GIVE SOME BACKGROUND IN DATA, IT'S CLEAR FROM THE 2022 CENSUS DATA THAT THE CITY'S BIPOC RESIDENTS AT A SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER RATE SPECIFICALLY OR AFRICAN-AMERICAN AT 72.9% COMPARED TO WHITE HISPANIC AT 11.8% AND WHITE NON-HISPANIC AT 28.1%. THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT INCOME AND RACIAL DISPARITIES IN THE QUALITY OF HOUSING IMPACTS HEALTH INCREASES THE BURDEN OF DISEASE AND NEGATIVELY IMPACTS ECONOMIC AND ECONOMIC OUTCOMES.  CHILDREN ARE ESPECIALLY IMPACTED BY POOR HOUSING POSITIVE EFFECTS OF MAINTAINING ROBUST RENTAL HOUSING LICENSING AND INSPECTION PROGRAM THROUGH ANNUAL INSPECTIONS, REDUCING THE NUMBER OF UNLICENSED AND RESPONDING TO TENANT COMPLAINTS IN A TIME LEE MANNER REALLY DO HELP HOLD UP OUR RENTAL HOUSING QUALITY IN THE CITY AT THE SAME TIME IT MAY CREATE A NEGATIVE EFFECT THE CHANGES PROPOSED A NEGATIVE EFFECT TENANTS IF LANDLORDS RAISE RENT FIVE LANDLORDS HAVE PROVIDED COMMENTS ON THE PROPOSED ANNUAL LICENSE FEE INCREASES CLAIMING THE CITY RAISES ITS FEES THEY'LL HAVE TO RAISE RENTS AND PASS IT TO TENANTS. HOWEVER YOU KNOW I'M CLOSER EXAMINATION IT'S CLEAR THAT RENTAL RATES ARE DRIVEN BY THE MARKET AND THEY HAVE GONE UP OVER TIME WHILE OUR LICENSE FEES HAVE.  SO FOR EXAMPLE IN A HOUSE WITH RENT OF $2,000 A MONTH A $3 AND 75 CENT PER MONTH INCREASE EQUATES TO ABOUT 0.19% OF THE MONTH'S RENT UNDER OPTION ONE UNDER OPTION TWO THE $5 AND 83 CENT PER MONTH INCREASE EQUATES ABOUT 0.29% PER MONTH UNDER THAT OPTION TO.  SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE OVERALL IMPACT OF HAVING A VERY STRONG ROBUST LICENSING AND INSPECTION PROGRAM, IT REALLY IS THERE TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE WHO RENT AND MAINTAIN THE QUALITY OF HOUSING IN A CITY LIKE BLOOMINGTON WITH OUR AGING RENTAL HOUSING STOCK.  SO THE NEXT SLIDES ARE THE PREPARED MOTIONS AND THERE'S A MOTION FOR FOR EACH OPTION OF FEE SCHEDULE. THE CODE LANGUAGE IS THE SAME. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO IS WHETHER COUNCIL PREFERS OPTION OR OPTION TWO. WITH THAT I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.  THANK YOU MS. MOUA COUNCIL QUESTIONS COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. NICE TO SEE YOU THIS MORNING. I'LL BE WITH YOU AGAIN JUST FOR A CLARIFICATION PERSPECTIVE ON THE FIRST POINT ABOUT CHANGING THE REGULATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH LICENSING MY UNDERSTANDING OF OF THAT WAS THAT THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON NO LONGER REQUIRES A LICENSE BUT THERE'S STILL A STATE REQUIREMENT THAT THEIR LICENSE THAT CORRECT AND IF THAT IS TRUE THEN WHAT THE WHAT IS THE COMPLIANCE INSPECTION PROCESS FOR THOSE STATE RUN HOMES THAT YOU KNOW THAT WE'RE NO LONGER, YOU KNOW, LICENSING AND THEREFORE INSPECTING? MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER DALLAS ALL THE STATE LICENSES OF GROUP THEY'RE EITHER LICENSED BY THE MINNESOTA DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN SERVICES THAT'S ABOUT TWO THIRDS OF THE GROUP HOMES IN BLOOMINGTON ARE LICENSED BY DHS OR MINNESOTA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND THAT'S ABOUT ONE THIRD. SO THEY STILL THEY'LL THEY'LL HAVE A A LICENSE WITH THEM BUT IT'S HARD FOR ME TO SAY EXACTLY HOW THEY GO ABOUT DOING INSPECTIONS I'VE NEVER BEEN WITH THEM ON ONE OUR RENTAL HOUSING PROGRAMS ALL MAINTENANCE OF THE PROPERTY AND SAFETY I I YOU KNOW IT'S HARD FOR ME TO COMMENT OTHER THAN I DO KNOW THAT IF COMPLAINTS ARE MADE. I HAVE SEEN SOME OF THEIR INSPECTIONS.  IT USUALLY RELATES MORE TO THINGS ABOUT BEHAVIORAL PROGRAMS AND CARE OF CLIENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.  NOTHING IN WHAT I SEE FROM THEM RESEMBLE A RENTAL HOUSING INSPECTION WHERE WE'RE CHECKING THE SMOKE DETECTORS IN THE CARBON MONOXIDE AND MAKING SURE ALL THE APPLIANCES ARE WORKING AND THINGS ARE REPAIRED AND THERE'S NO PEELING PAINT AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO IT'S JUST HARD FOR ME TO COMMENT EXACTLY WHAT THOSE STATE SURE JURISDICTIONS LOOK LIKE. OKAY. MR. MARRIOTT WAS ONE FOLLOW UP QUESTION ABOUT THEN DOES THAT MEAN THAT AS AS A CITY IF WE RECEIVE A CONCERN FROM A RESIDENT ABOUT ONE OF THESE HOMES THAT IS NOW YOU KNOW, KIND OF OUTSIDE OF OUR JURISDICTION IF YOU WILL SPECIFICALLY, WHAT DOES THAT LIMIT US TO IN TERMS OF WHAT WE CAN AND CANNOT?  DOES IT PREVENT US FROM DOING THAT SAME KIND OF WELFARE CHECK, FOR EXAMPLE WE WOULD DO ON A SINGLE FAMILY HOME OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? MAYOR AND DALLESSANDRO IT DOES NOT PROHIBIT US SO EVEN LIKE AN OWNER OCCUPIED HOME IF WE HAD A WELFARE CONCERN THE CITY WOULD STILL HAVE WITHIN ITS AUTHORITY TO INVESTIGATE TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNOW PEOPLE WERE DOING WELL, GAIN ACCESS IF WE HAD TO THROUGH ADMINISTRATIVE SEARCH WARRANT PROCESS I MEAN JUST OTHER THINGS WHEN YOU KNOW PEOPLE'S IMMEDIATE HEALTH AND WELFARE ARE AT RISK. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S SUPER HELPFUL. THANK YOU FOR THAT. I THE ONLY COMMENT I THINK I, I WANTED TO I KIND OF UNDERSTAND TERMS OF THE GENERAL STUFF. I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THE OPTIONS THE MOMENT. THANKS. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER COUNCILMEMBER THIERIOT, THANKS SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE FOR SENDING THIS TO TODAY.  SO CURRENT FEES ONLY COVERS 61% OF OUR OPERATING FOR THIS. WHERE DOES THE 39% COME FROM?  MAYOR BUSSEY COUNCILMEMBER IT COMES FROM THE GENERAL FUND IT COMES FROM ALL OF OUR TAXES. SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT RENTAL HOUSING AND YOU KNOW PEOPLE WHO ARE TENANTS ARE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY AND IT'S AN IMPORTANT PROGRAM FOR US TO MAINTAIN PROPERTIES BECAUSE IT MAINTAINS VALUES AND IT MAINTAINS THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY VALUES.  SO MAINTAINING THIS ROBUST RENTAL HOUSING INSPECTION PROGRAM IS VERY IMPORTANT AND IF THE COUNCIL WANTS TO CONTINUE SUBSIDIZING IT WITH GENERAL FUND MONEY I MEAN YOU CAN DO SO IF YOU SO CHOSE FOR YOU.  COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN THEN COUNCILMEMBER NELSON COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN I THINK ARE KIND OF PICKING UP RIGHT WHERE MY COLLEAGUE LEFT OFF HERE. SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE THE FEES ASSOCIATED WITH THE DO YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW THAT THAT WORKS SO IT SEEMS LIKE THE THE HOUSING FEE IS YOU KNOW AT THE BASE KIND OF SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'RE CHARGING AT THE BASE FOR THE OTHER FAMILY THE MULTIFAMILY UNITS. CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND I MEAN I ASSUME THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE CHARGING WHAT IT COSTS TO DO THE DO THE WORK BUT JUST HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW THAT CAN BE LIKE I DON'T KNOW THAT FOLKS ARE PARTICULARLY CONCERNED IN THE COMMENTS THAT I SAW AT THE END AROUND HOW THEY'RE BEING CHARGED FOR THOSE THOSE FEES AND HOW THAT'S GOING TO BE SUCH A LARGE INCREASE FOR THAT THAT.  SURE. MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN, WE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW OUR ANNUAL LICENSE FEE FOR A HOUSE IS $130. WE DO ALL THE HOUSES, ALL THE DUPLEXES AND ALL THE FOUR PLEX IS EVERY UNIT EVERY YEAR AND WE PUT A LOT OF EMPHASIS IN GETTING INTO THOSE BECAUSE IT HAS PROVEN EFFECTIVE AND HELPING PEOPLE TO MAINTAIN THEIR UNITS. IT BE THE ONLY TIME THAT YEAR THAT THE OWNER OR PROPERTY MANAGER GETS INTO THOSE SINGLE FAMILY UNITS AND TAKES A LOOK AROUND AND TENANTS HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY OH HEY YOU KNOW I DIDN'T TELL YOU BUT THIS IS BROKEN AND GET THIS FIXED.  SO I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO  MAINTAIN THAT ANNUAL INSPECTION RIGHT NOW?  IT'S $130. I WOULD TELL YOU THAT IT TAKES A LOT MORE TIME AND EFFORT TO SCHEDULE THAT HOUSE INSPECTION THAN IT DOES A MULTIFAMILY BUILDING INSPECTION. A LOT OUR LARGE MULTIFAMILY BUILDINGS HAVE ONSITE STAFF. THEY'RE AVAILABLE. THEY YOU KNOW, THEY SEND ENGINEERS WITH US.  THERE'S A LOT OF TIME TAKEN UP WITH RENEWING LICENSES ON SINGLE FAMILY THEY MIGHT NEED A FEW NOTICES TO GET BACK IN AND THEN AND THEN LIKE I SAID JUST SCHEDULING THAT ANNUAL INSPECTION DOES TAKE A LOT OF STAFF TIME YOU KNOW YOU'VE RAISED ANOTHER QUESTION I GOT ONE OTHER ONE AFTER THAT BUT THERE WAS SOME COMMENTARY IN THERE ABOUT REDUCING THE FEE FOR FOLKS IF THEY'VE BEEN DOING A GOOD JOB OVER A NUMBER OF YEARS. COULD YOU COMMENT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT IN TERMS OF A WAY OF REDUCING THE OVERALL FEE WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT THAT? SURE. MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER LOWMAN I LOOK AT RENTAL LICENSING. IT'S A BUSINESS SO PEOPLE DO IT TO MAKE MONEY AND THE CITY IS ISSUING A BUSINESS LICENSE LIKE ALL OTHER BUSINESS LICENSES WE ISSUE THEM ANNUALLY.  WE DO AND TIE THAT TO AN ANNUAL INSPECTION. YOU PASS YOU DON'T PASS TYPE OF SITUATION THAT WE USE FOR FOR RENTAL.  IT'S REALLY HARD TO SAY AND WE'VE SEEN PROPERTIES BE GREAT ONE YEAR AND NOT SO GREAT THE NEXT YEAR DEPENDING UPON AN OWNERSHIP CHANGE, A TENANT CHANGE, A SITUATION CHANGE A GUEST OF A TENANT MOVING IN . IT'S ALSO ABOUT FAIRNESS. SO IF WE'RE GOING TO TREAT EVERYBODY THE SAME AND SET THE STANDARD FOR EVERYONE WE GOT TO LOOK AT EVERY PROPERTY EVERY YEAR. THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. I THINK MY FINAL QUESTION IS YOU HAD MENTIONED ABOUT SUBSIDIZED THESE BUSINESSES DO YOU KNOW WHAT ARE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES ARE DOING JUST OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD? IS THAT IS THAT SOMETHING THAT OTHER OTHER CITIES ARE DOING OR SUBSIDIZING THAT? SURE.  MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN, YOU KNOW, WE WE HAVE LOOKED AT WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING THAT HAVE SIMILAR RENTAL PROGRAMS. OUR NEIGHBORING CITIES I DIDN'T INCLUDE MINNEAPOLIS. IT'S TOO HARD TO COMPARE DOING LIST BUT MOST OF THESE CITIES ARE DOING A SIMILAR TYPE OF PROGRAM AS IS WE DO BECAUSE . THERE'S NO STATE BODY RUNNING RENTAL HOUSING LIKE SAY THE FOOD PROGRAM IS RUN BY THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH WHERE.  ALL THE PROGRAMS ARE PRETTY SIMILAR IN HOUSING THEY CAN BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT BUT I POLLED CITIES WHERE I THOUGHT THE PROGRAMS WERE THE MOST SIMILAR TO OURS TO COMPARE AND YOU KNOW OVER TIME IT'S IT'S BEEN TEN YEARS AND WE JUST HAVEN'T TAKEN ANY WE HAVEN'T HAD A RESET SO TO SAY BACK IN 2014 WE HAD A RESET OF FEES. WE RESTRUCTURED FEES.  WE SAID OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THIS PROGRAM PAY THE SERVICES PROVIDED AND I FEEL LIKE AT THAT POINT NOW WHERE WE NEED A RESET AND YOU KNOW AND IF A RESET IS OPTION ONE AND IN A COUPLE OF YEARS WE COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT AN OPTION TO YOU KNOW, FINE. I THINK IT'S WORTH LOOKING AT NOW AND TRYING KIND OF BALANCE THE CITY'S COSTS FOR PROVIDING THESE VERY IMPORTANT SERVICES AND WHAT BUSINESS OWNERS ARE PAYING FOR THEM.  SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ON THIS CHART RIGHT HERE IS EDEN PRAIRIE EXAMPLE. THAT'S WHAT IT COSTS FOR THEM TO GET A 99% COST RECOVERY AND THEY'RE NOT HAVING SUBSIDY OR MY MISUNDERSTANDING.  THE MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT EDEN PRAIRIE IS COST RECOVERY IS I DON'T KNOW IF EDEN PRAIRIE IN PARTICULAR IS EVEN DOING ALL THEIR HOUSES, CONDOS,  DUPLEXES EVERY YEAR. NOT ALL THESE CITIES DO THEM EVERY YEAR LIKE WE DO INSPECT . SO EVERYTHING ON THIS CHART IS IS A LICENSE CATEGORY. WE ARE IN EVERY UNIT EVERY YEAR I GUESS I WASN'T CLEAR THEN WHEN I WAS MORE SO ASKING WAS THE CITY SUBSIDY FOR YOU KNOW EACH OF THESE PAYMENTS IF YOU DON'T KNOW THAT'S OKAY SO WE AFTER IT'S TOP KIND OF QUESTION SO YES NO I DO NOT ANY IDEA I DID NOT ASK THAT QUESTION. I ASKED THEM WHAT ARE YOUR FEES HOW OFTEN YOU INSPECT? OKAY. THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER NELSON . YEAH, THANK YOU. MARRIED COUPLE GOOD QUESTION. SO WHEN WE TALK PROGRAM COSTS AND COST RECOVERY ON THIS, THE SECOND OPTION THAT YOU PROVIDE THAT GETS US ALMOST THERE TO FORECAST RECOVERY BUT THAT IS FOR THE PROGRAM, CORRECT? THAT DOES NOT OTHER COSTS OF THE CITY THAT MAY APPLY FOR OTHER PUBLIC SERVICES POLICE FIRE THINGS OF THAT NATURE THAT MAY THAT THEY MAY DRIVE IN A WAY THAT IS SUBSTANTIALLY DIFFERENT THAN OTHER TYPES OF HOUSING PRODUCTS IS THAT ACCURATE.  MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER NELSON THAT IS ACCURATE?  SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT OUR PROGRAM COSTS, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE COST TO LICENSE AND INSPECT AND I'M INCLUDING STAFF TIME FROM ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH LICENSING AND SOME LEGAL AND THIS CHART IS ABOUT AS GOOD AN ESTIMATE I CAN DO FOR ESTIMATING NEXT YEAR'S COSTS BASED ON A 3.5% INCREASE OF SALARY COST OVER OUR CURRENT MOST OF OUR OTHER PROGRAM COSTS ARE PRETTY STEADY. YOU KNOW IT CHARGES FLEET ALL THIS STUFF I TRIED TO GET AS ACCURATE AS I COULD SO AND I GUESS THE FOR MY QUESTION IS YOU KNOW I THINK YOU NOTED THAT THERE'S A LARGE NUMBER OF RENTAL UNITS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND WE AS A COUNCIL HEAR FROM SOME OF THOSE ARE FROM PEOPLE IMPACTED BY SOME OF THOSE WELL BEYOND OTHER UNITS AND BECAUSE THESE ARE DIFFERENT THAN MY PERSONAL RESIDENCE OR ANYONE ELSE'S PERSONAL REASONS THESE ARE BUSINESSES AND THERE ARE INCENTIVES DISINCENTIVES FOR PEOPLE TO TAKE ACTION ON DIFFERENT THINGS AND SO I GUESS MY QUESTION AND THIS IS MAYBE MORE OF A LEGAL CAN WE ALSO HAVE ANY TYPE OF FEE FOR SERVICE?  ONE EXAMPLE I WOULD PROVIDE IS I OWN A BUSINESS. I HAVE A BUSINESS UNIT AND IF I HAVE TOO MANY ALARM CALLS AND WE CHANGE THIS EARLIER THIS YEAR IF I HAVE TOO MANY ALARM CALLS I HAVE START PAYING FEES AND THOSE FEES ESCALATE I GET YOU GET A COUPLE OF GRACE PERIODS YOU KNOW I'M GOING TO GET YOU ON THE FIRST ONE BUT WE HAVE THAT ROUTINELY OUR PUBLIC SERVICES ARE CALLED TO A GREAT EXPENSE TO THE COMMUNITY, THAT GREAT INCONVENIENCE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.  IS IT POSSIBLE FOR US TO LOOK AT SOME TYPE OF FEE FOR SERVICE FOR THOSE THINGS BECAUSE THIS IS A BUSINESSES I'M NOT TALKING YOU KNOW, SLIP AND FALL SOMEONE GETS INJURED. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT YOU KNOW, SOMEONE HAS A HEART ATTACK. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT PROVIDING BASIC THAT WE ABSOLUTELY HAS TO PROVIDE. I'M TALKING ABOUT THE OTHER STUFF AND THE OTHER REASONS THAT WE GET CALLED OUT AND CAN WE DO THAT TO PROVIDE INCENTIVES AND DISINCENTIVES TO PROVIDE THESE SERVICES WELL WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY SO MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER NELSON SO YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT POLICE CALLS TO A PROPERTY THAT HAS A LOT OF BEHAVIOR ISSUES, WE DO HAVE THE NUISANCE SERVICE CALL FEE FINE WHICH IS A MINIMUM OF $250 THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND CERTAIN THAT THEY'RE MAKING A LOT OF LET'S SAY BEHAVIOR NOISE OR WHAT HAVE YOU TYPE CALLS THEY ARE APPLYING THOSE. SO JUST TO REASSURE YOU WE USE THEM TO AN ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH.  THE OTHER THING IN THE RENTAL HOUSING WE DO HAVE A RENTAL REINSPECTION FEE SO BASICALLY WE LOOK AT YOUR LICENSE FEE GETS YOU YOUR INITIAL ANNUAL AND A FOLLOW UP BUT IF YOU NEED A THIRD ONE BECAUSE WE WROTE YOU ORDERS ON YOUR YOUR INITIAL AND YOU DIDN'T GET IT FIXED BY THE FOLLOW UP THAT WAS AGREED UPON AND WE HAVE TO COME OUT AGAIN RIGHT NOW WE CHARGE A $100 FEE FOR THAT THIRD INSPECTION IS AN INCENTIVE UNDER OPTION ONE WE SUGGEST THAT THAT FEE INCREASED TO $200 AND UNDER OPTION TWO IT BE INCREASED TO $3. OKAY.  THANK YOU AND I APPRECIATE THE INFORMATION ON THE OTHER ONES . I DO STILL THINK IT'S AN AREA THAT MAYBE NOT RIGHT NOW TONIGHT BUT AT SOME POINT WE LOOK AT BECAUSE WE DO YOU KNOW IN MY OPINION I THINK WE GET A LOT CONCERNS ABOUT A VERY SMALL NUMBER OF PROPERTIES AND . WHAT CAN WE DO TO MORE INCENTIVIZE THOSE PROPERTIES TO BRING THEMSELVES UP TO THE STANDARD OF THE COMMUNITY AND THE REST THE NEIGHBORHOOD?  THE OTHER THING THAT I WANT TO ASK ABOUT IS SO THE LEGISLATION DOESN'T ALLOW US TO LICENSE UNDER SIX UNITS AND CAN YOU JUST HELP ME UNDERSTAND BECAUSE IN MY MIND THEY'RE VERY DIFFERENT LICENSES.  I MEAN WHAT WE'RE LICENSING IS THE BUILDING WE'RE INSPECTING TO MAKE SURE IT'S UP TO ESSENTIALLY MAINTENANCE AND CODE COMPLIANCE SO IT'S A SAFE BUILDING. THEY'RE LICENSING OPERATIONS.  AND CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME WHY THEY DON'T ALLOW US TO LICENSE THE BUILDING AND IF YOU CAN'T, MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT IN OUR LEGISLATIVE BECAUSE THEY SEEM LIKE A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THINGS AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT OF NOT MAKING SURE MAINTAINING PARTICULARLY FOR THE MOST VULNERABLE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY A DECENT SAFE PLACE TO LIVE IF WE CAN'T IF WE CAN'T ENFORCE A DECENT SAFE PLACE LIVE THEN WHY HAVE ANY LICENSING?  YOU MAKE A VERY GOOD POINT COUNCILMEMBER I WON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU. DON'T BOTHER ANSWERING THAT. IT'S MUCH MORE I'VE GOT A QUESTION. THE RATES AS THEY WERE SET IN 2014 AND I WAS ON THE COUNCIL THEN BUT I HONESTLY THAT WAS TEN YEARS AGO I DON'T RECALL WERE THE RATES SET IN 2014 TO ACHIEVE 100% COST COVERAGE OF THE PROGRAM OR WAS THERE I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER IF THERE WAS A DISCUSSION IF WE SAID 50, 75, 61 I MEAN DO YOU RECALL THAT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTION. I REMEMBER THAT RATES INITIALLY WERE SET MUCH HIGHER AND WE HAD STUDY SESSION ABOUT THAT AND THERE WAS COMPROMISE . SO I THINK THEY WERE BUT WE BACKED IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT. I ALSO IN 2014 BECAUSE WE ESSENTIALLY DELETED ALL OF THE CODE ON RENTAL IN OUR CITY AND WROTE A BRAND NEW ONE MIKE TO REALLY AND ADD A NEW FEE STRUCTURE. WE HAD A COUPLE OF HEARINGS OUTSIDE OF COUNCIL MEETINGS JUST TO AND WE HAD A LOT OF PARTICIPATION FROM LANDLORDS I MEAN LIKE 50 LANDLORDS TO THE TWO MEETINGS AND WE HAD A LOT OF FEEDBACK THAT I BROUGHT BACK TO COUNCIL AND AT THAT TIME COUNCIL YOU KNOW COMPROMISED AND CAME UP WITH THAT THOSE FEES AT THE TIME WHICH NOW HAVE INCREASED I THINK TWO OR THREE TIMES BY 3% OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS. SO IT JUST LOOKING AT THEM AND JUST DOING THE GENERAL MATH IN MY MIND IT HAD TO BE CERTAINLY MORE THAN THE 61% THAT IT IS NOW. YES TRUE CLOSER TO 75 OR 80 OR SOMEWHERE IN THERE IS PROBABLY CLOSER 85 TO 90%. I MEAN WE BETWEEN THEN AND NOW WE HAVE ADDED LIKE ONE INSPECTOR IN ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH AND ACTUALLY IN THE LAST LIKE FOUR YEARS WE'VE WE'VE BUILT A LOT OF APARTMENT BUILDINGS REALLY WE'RE REALLY RELYING ON SOME INTERN SOME TEMPORARY SEASONAL HELP JUST TO GET THROUGH OUR INSPECTIONS AND KEEP UP WITH THE INSPECTION RATE WE'D LIKE TO MAINTAIN SO.  YEAH, GOOD TO KNOW. THANK YOU, COUNSEL.  ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ON THIS OTHERWISE. WELL, LET'S GET TO THE PUBLIC HEARING IF WE COULD. THANK VERY MUCH MISS MORE. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND I WILL CALL IT FOR ITEM 4.2 PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING OUR RENTAL HOUSING CODE AMENDMENTS TO ANYONE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO AN 4.2.  YOU CAN COME FORWARD AND I'LL ASK A COUPLE OF THINGS YOU SIGN IN , YOU CAN DO THAT AFTER YOU GET DONE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT RIGHT AWAY. BUT AS YOU SPEAK IDENTIFY YOURSELF FOR THE RECORD. SURE. AND THEN TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW AS WE GO THROUGH OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS HERE WE HAVE THE SHOT CLOCK ON THE WALL SO YOU COULD 5 MINUTES AND WHEN WE HIT 5 MINUTES I WILL CUT YOU OFF NOT BECAUSE I MEAN BUT BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY GETS THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME TO SPEAK SO.  IT'S NOT THE DEBATE, RIGHT? NO, IT IS NOT. IT IS NOT AND IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS WHAT WE'LL DO WELL, THE STAFF COLLECT ALL THE QUESTIONS AND WE'RE GOING TO ANSWER ALL THE QUESTIONS AT THE END OF THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT.  IT'S A MUCH MORE EFFICIENT WAY OF DOING IT. SO OKAY. THANK YOU, MAYOR BUSSEY AND I'LL COUNT THE NUMBER MY NAME IS AND BOY CLARE FAHY.  WE LIVE IN APPLETREE CONDOMINIUMS AND WE OWN A RENTAL UNIT AND WE LIVE IN A UNIT SO WE HAVE TWO PROPERTIES IN THAT WE'VE RENTED OUR RENTAL UNIT SINCE 2011 IT HAS BEEN INSPECTED EVERY YEAR I'VE ATTENDED EVERY ONE OF THOSE EXCEPT ONE AND I CAN GUARANTEE YOU IT'S A STUDENT INTERN FROM COLLEGE THAT GOES TO HER CONDO IN LITERALLY 3 TO 5 MINUTES. THAT IS THE INSPECTION.  SO TO HEAR THAT IT COSTS A LOT FOR OUR LITTLE UNIT IT PROBABLY DOESN'T BECAUSE IT'S DONE SO QUICKLY WE KEEP IT IN EXCELLENT ORDER OUR CURRENT OWNER, OUR CURRENT RENTERS A MINORITY AND PERSONALLY THINK THIS IS PRICE GOUGING. I HEAR THAT YOU KNOW, YOU NO LONGER HAVE TO GIVE LICENSES TO UNITS IN A GROUP HOME. WELL, WHERE IS THAT MONEY THAT YOU'RE GETTING FROM THERE? HOW IS THAT BEING PASSED ON? I DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE NUMBERS ARE BUT MY FIRST READING OF THIS WAS LIKE 30 ALMOST 30% OR OPTION TWO ALMOST 50% FOR A CONDO INCREASE. I THINK BASICALLY TOO MUCH PUTTING THAT IN PERSPECTIVE, A RETIRED REGISTERED NURSE MY NURSING LICENSE GETS RENEWED EVERY TWO YEARS FOR $85 A WHOLE LOT WAS PUT INTO THAT OVER 45 YEARS BUT IT'S A EVERY TWO YEAR CYCLE. IT'S $85 AND THIS IS A BUILDING FOR 3 TO 5 MINUTES TO GET OUR UNIT GETTING INSPECTED VERY QUICKLY AND IT'S AN EXCELLENT ORDER AND 30 OR $50 EXTRA IS TOO MUCH.  THAT'S MY POINT. THANK YOU. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU.  ANYONE ELSE IN THE CHAMBER IS WISHING TO SPEAK TONIGHT ON ITEM 4.2 THE RENTAL HOUSING CODE AMENDMENTS.  MR. COLEMAN, GOOD EVENING. HI. MY NAME IS ROBERT COLEMAN. I DON'T HAVE MUCH TO SAY. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I MEAN ,I ONLY JUST STARTED. YOU KNOW, I USED TO LIVE IN A HOME AND NOW I LIVE WITH MY MOM IN AN APARTMENT AND I ONLY JUST STARTED PAYING RENT SO TAKE MY OPINION WITH A GRAIN OF SALT BUT HONESTLY WHEN LOOKING AT THE INCREASE OF LIKE $0.50 PER MONTH PER UNIT LIKE I DON'T SEE THAT AS BEING A REALLY THAT BIG OF A DEAL.  I THINK THAT HONESTLY EITHER OPTION ONE OR OPTION TWO ARE PERFECTLY FINE TO ME BUT YOU KNOW IT SEEMS LIKE REALLY NOT A LOT OF YOU KNOW WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT AT A YEAR TO YEAR CHANGE LIKE IT DOES LOOK LIKE A LOT BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT ON A MONTH TO MONTH BASIS IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A BIG DIFFERENCE ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU THINK THAT IT HASN'T INCREASED IN A A IN A IN A REASONABLE AMOUNT JUST LIKE YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE THE THE GAS TAX WASN'T TOUCHED SINCE 2008. YOU KNOW SOME THINGS YOU KNOW THING COSTS GO UP I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU KNOW THANK YOU, MR. COLEMAN. ANYONE ELSE IN CHAMBERS?  MR. ALTMAN DO WE HAVE ANYONE ON THE PHONE? MR. MAYOR, THERE'S ONE ON MY LAST CALL FOR ANYBODY IN THE CHAMBERS.  COUNSEL NO ONE COMING FORWARD, NO ONE ON THE PHONE WISHING TO SPEAK TO THEM.  POINT TWO I WOULD LOOK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ALONE 4.2 SOMEWHAT SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 4.2. NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS MS. MERCER NELSON RIVAS.  D'ALESSANDRO CARTER I MOA I LOWMAN I AND MAYOR BUZZI. HI. MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING ON NINE AND 4.2 SO COUNCIL THOUGHTS AND DISCUSSION ON THIS I I MEAN WE'RE WE'RE READING THIS AND WHERE I'M STANDING AND AS I SAID I WAS TRYING TO REMEMBER OUR DISCUSSION IN 2014 WHERE WE WERE IN I DON'T KNOW IF YOU RECALL COUNCIL MEMBER LOGAN BUT I KNOW OUR DISCUSSIONS SENSE REGARDING FEES HAVE SKEWED TOWARD SPECIFICALLY MAKING SURE THAT THE FEES COVER THE COST OF WHAT WE'RE WHAT WE'RE OFFERING.  AND THIS IS A BIT DIFFERENT BECAUSE I THINK THERE IS THERE'S AN ARGUMENT TO BE MADE FOR THE SUBSIDY IF YOU ASSUME THAT YES, THIS WILL PASSED ON AND ANY INCREASE WILL BE PASSED ON TO RENTERS AND IT WILL IMPACT THE RENT AND THE COST OF HOUSING FOR FOR EVERYONE WHETHER IT'S THE TOP OF THE INCOME SCALE OR THE LOW THE BOTTOM OF THE INCOME SCALE AND THE END WILL AFFECT THEM DISPROPORTIONATELY BUT.  I WILL SAY THE THE POLICY EXAMPLES AND THE POLICY PRIORITIES THAT WE'VE SET HAVE BEEN THAT THE FEES SET COVER THE COST OF . WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT I USE RENTAL INSPECTION IS FILLING THE BLANK WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE. WE'VE TALKED THAT AND MY SENSE HERE IS THAT IS THAT THAT'S HOW IT SHOULD HAPPEN AS WELL IN THIS HOUSING INSPECTION OUR HOUSING STOCK IS IN EXCELLENT SHAPE NOW WE NEED TO KEEP IT THAT WAY AND THIS IS ONE WAY THAT WE HAVE CONTROL OVER THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR ARE OUR LANDLORDS, OUR RENTERS, OUR HOUSING STOCK IN GENERAL MEETS THE EXPECTATIONS THAT WE HAVE HERE IN BLOOMINGTON. THAT'S MY CENTS OTHERS. COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN WELL THANK YOU, MARY. KNOW I THINK ABOUT YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW WHAT YOU SAID AND ALSO I MEAN I REMEMBER A LITTLE BACK OF THAT POINT TIME AND YOU KNOW THE FOLKS THAT CAME BEFORE US AND THEIR CONCERN AND LET'S BE HONEST I MEAN THEY'RE GOING TO PASS THAT FEE DIRECTLY TO THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE THERE. BUT YOU KNOW, THERE'S A THERE'S AN ASPECT TO THIS THAT I THINK ABOUT FROM A PUBLIC SAFETY PERSPECTIVE THAT I THINK ABOUT THESE THESE NUMBERS THAT THAT IS IS PART OF AN INVESTMENT IN MAKING SURE THAT OUR HOMES ARE PROTECTED YEAR IN AND YEAR OUT AND.  I THINK WE DO NEED TO LOOK AT TRYING TO TRYING TO PAY FOR IT NOW. I MEAN I IT WAS ANOTHER WAY TO KIND OF DO THIS BUT YOU KNOW, EITHER WAY, YOU KNOW, IF YOU SUBSIDIZE IT, YOU KNOW FROM THE PUBLIC SENSE OF IT I GUESS THE WAY I WOULD LOOK AT THIS AND JUST FINISH IT OFF AND SAY THIS IS THAT I CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS. RIGHT. WE'RE LOOKING AT WAYS WHICH TO REDUCE OUR OVERALL LEVY. THIS IS A WAY IN WHICH TO DO IT.  SO I I'M LOOKING AT THE OPTION NUMBER TWO AND I'M THINKING THIS IS WHAT WE GOT TO DO. I WISH WE COULD SPREAD IT OUT OVER A NUMBER OF YEARS B EITHER WAY GOING TO PAY YOU THEY'RE GOING TO PAY IT IN TAXES ON THE ONE WAY OR YOU GOING TO PAY IT DIRECTLY IN A FEE. SO EITHER WAY YOU'RE GOING TO YOU'RE GOING TO PAY THAT TAX SO DOES MARY NELSON. YEAH. THANKS, MAYOR, AS I ALWAYS DO AND WE TALK ABOUT THESE THINGS I WILL JUST DISCLOSE THAT I OWN A RENTAL UNIT IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON SO THIS FEE IMPACTS ME. I PAY IT AS WELL BUT NOT UNIQUELY OR DIFFERENTLY THAN ANYONE ELSE. AND SO THAT'S WHY I DON'T RECUSE MYSELF ON IT AND WHAT I SAY IS I'M SYMPATHETIC TO THE NOTION THAT THIS IS A LARGE INCREASE AT ONCE BUT THERE HAVEN'T BEEN INCREASES OVER TIME AND I THINK WITHIN THAT PERIOD THIS IS ACTUALLY A FAIRLY MODEST INCREASE FOR THE TIME SINCE IT'S BEEN IMPLEMENTED THAT I, I ALSO HOLD A LICENSE IN OTHER AREAS THAT IS RENEWED EVERY TWO YEARS AND SO I HEAR YOU ON THAT AND I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUE HERE, COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN THAT OUR AND THE MAYOR THAT OUR POLICY HAS BEEN OR AT LEAST THE DIRECTION WE HAVE GIVEN STAFF HAS COST RECOVERY AT COST. WE'RE NOT HERE TO MAKE A BUCK OFF YOU.  WE'RE NOT TRYING TO MAKE MONEY OFF OF HAVING LICENSING FEES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. WE'RE JUST PROVIDING THE SERVICE. SO I SUPPORT THIS AS IT IS RIGHT NOW BUT I ALSO AT SOME POINT WOULD LIKE TO A LOOK AT IS THERE A WAY TO GO TO EVERY OTHER YEAR ON SOME THESE AND PART OF THE REASON I BRING THAT UP IS BECAUSE THE OTHER LICENSE I HOLD ALLOWS ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO INTO 30 TO 40 DIFFERENT PEOPLE'S HOUSES THROUGHOUT THE REGION AND I WOULD PROBABLY SAY THAT IN 80% OF THOSE HOUSES THAT WE GO INTO BECAUSE OF THE BUILDING INSPECTION WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE SMOKE DETECTORS IN THEIR HOUSE. WE HAVE TO VERIFY THEIR EGRESS WINDOWS AND THESE ARE SINGLE FAMILY OWNER OCCUPIED HOUSES THAT HAVE NOT MET THE STANDARDS OF THE RENTAL HOUSES THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON HAVE TO MEET EVERY SINGLE YEAR AND WE DO THAT AT TIME OF SALE INSPECTION AS WELL. MAKE SURE WE BRING THOSE THINGS TO CODE . BUT THE REALITY IS IS WE HAVE A MUCH WE PROBABLY HAVE MUCH LOWER COMPLIANCE ON THOSE THINGS IN OWNER OCCUPIED HOMES THAN RENTAL HOMES IN OUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT PEOPLE DO WHEN THE THING STARTS BEEPING THEY PULL IT DOWN THEY TAKE THE BATTERY OUT . I MEAN I'VE LITERALLY HAD I LITERALLY HAD A NUCLEAR ENGINEER ONE TIME WASN'T IT WAS DIFFERENT FOLKS COMPLAIN ABOUT I'M LIKE LIKE WHY IT KEEP BEEPING BATTERIES DEAD I MEAN THIS IS THIS IS LEGITIMATE PEOPLE TAKE THEM DOWN AND GET RID OF THEM AND SO OUR RENTAL IS GREAT. I THINK OUR RENTALS ARE PROBABLY AGAIN SUBSTANTIALLY BETTER THAN WHAT OUR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ARE IN MANY CASES AND I WOULD BE OPEN TO TAKING A LOOK AT GOING EVERY TWO YEARS. I THINK THAT WOULD HELP WITH THE COST ISSUE BECAUSE WOULD JUST LOWER THE COST BECAUSE IT WAS EVERY TWO YEARS AND I THINK IT WOULD STILL WELL WITHIN A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF SAFETY PRECAUTION FOR OUR COMMUNITY.  SO BUT THAT I'M NOT ADVOCATING TONIGHT I'M JUST ASKING STAFF TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AT SOME POINT WHEN IT MAKES SENSE.  I SUPPORT THE FORECAST RECOVERY THAT IS THE DIRECTION WE'VE ASKED STAFF TO GO THAT'S WHAT THEY BROUGHT BACK AND I SUPPORT THAT AND I WILL PERSONALLY I WILL PAY THAT AS AS A PERSON HAS TO PAY IT SO THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER COUNCILMEMBER AND THEN COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THEY MAYOR I AM ALSO IN LINE WITH RECOVERY I THINK THAT'S THE BEST THING FOR CITY OVERALL IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE COVERING OUR COSTS AND ENSURING THAT RESIDENTS ARE SUBSIDIZING BUSINESSES AND OTHER THINGS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE BUT TO ME THE BIGGER QUESTION AND CONCERN IS JUST THIS IS PROBABLY THE SECOND OR THIRD TIME I'VE SEEN OUR COSTS NOT KEEP UP IN THE TIME THAT WE'VE REDONE THINGS. THEY COME BACK IN TEN YEARS AND IT'S NOT JUST GOVERNMENT HEALTH, IT'S OTHER AREAS IN THE CITY WHERE COSTS WILL COME UP LIKE THEY SHOULD EVERY YEAR. AND THEN WE GET TO THIS POINT WHERE IT'S A HUGE JUMP AND PEOPLE REACT TO IT BECAUSE IT'S A HUGE JUMP.  AND SO THAT IS MY QUESTION IS HOW DO WE CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN COSTS ON A CONSISTENT BASIS SO WE DON'T HAVE THESE HUGE COST UP AND THESE AT WEIRD INTERVALS AND THEN WE'RE TALKING THROUGH THESE AND THEN IN ANOTHER TEN YEARS WHEN WE'RE TALKING AGAIN ABOUT A HUGE COST INCREASE SO THAT'S MY QUESTION. WHERE I WANT TO SEE US GO IS JUST MORE STANDARDIZED SPREAD OUT SO PEOPLE KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT.  I AGREE COUNCILMEMBER AND STICK AROUND FOR THE UTILITY FUNDS DISCUSSION SO COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. I HAD A SIMILAR COMMENT. I WAS GOING TO ACTUALLY ASK IF WE COULD ACTUALLY PLAN AND DO A STEP UP OF THESE THINGS OVER A THREE OR FIVE YEAR PERIOD OF TIME SO THAT WE JUST GAVE PEOPLE A FIVE YEAR VIEW OF WHAT THEIR RENTAL FEES WERE GOING TO BE.  MAYBE THAT MEANS THAT THIS YEAR BETWEEN YEAR ONE IN YEAR TWO WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO RAISE IT AS MUCH. SO IT MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT MORE COMFORTABLE BUT THEN OVER THAT FIVE YEAR PERIOD IT'S REALLY CLEAR WHAT WHAT YOU KNOW WHAT WE'RE TO HIT SO SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU WERE ASKING FOR. COUNCILMEMBER THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY ONE COMMENT TO BE HONEST WITH YOU OF ALL THE THINGS I HEARD TONIGHT, THE THING THAT BOTHERS ME THE MOST IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO LOSE SOME VISIBILITY INTO WHERE I SEE WE HAVE SOME OF THE MOST CHALLENGING ISSUES AND I WOULD I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S ON OUR LEGISLATIVE AGENDA. I'LL PUT THAT ON THE BACK BURNER. WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT IN ORGANIZATIONAL BUSINESS BUT BUT I WORRY MORE ABOUT THAT ONLY BECAUSE I THINK YOU KNOW ,TO THE POINT THAT COUNCILMEMBER NELSON WAS MAKING AND INTO THE GOOD WORK THAT YOU KNOW IS MORE AND HER TEAM DOES I THINK ARE OWNER OCCUPIED OR OWNER YOU KNOW OWNER ADJACENT LIKE THE CONDO UNIT THAT WAS MENTIONED BY THE THE SPEAKER THAT THOSE THOSE ARE IN GOOD SHAPE AND YOU KNOW THE RENTAL HOMES THAT ARE AROUND ME THAT HAVE SINGLE FAMILIES IN THEM ARE IN GREAT SHAPE AS WELL. AND SO THAT'S NOT WHERE MY CONCERN IS.  SO IF WE CAN NORMALIZE THESE COSTS A LITTLE BIT, MAYBE GIVE US A FIVE YEAR PLAN AND AND DO THAT THAT WOULD BE GREAT BUT OTHERWISE MY HEAD'S NOT IN THAT GAME NOW SO I'M OVER HERE THINKING ABOUT THIS OTHER KIND OF BIGGER.  THANKS. GREAT COUNCILMEMBER COUNCILMEMBER CARTER.  THANK YOU, MAYOR. I WILL BE VERY QUICK. I JUST WANT TO THAT I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH THE FULL COST RECOVERY INCREASE AND THEN I LIKE THIS IDEA OF THE YOU KNOW, FORECASTING OUT FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS AND PUTTING A PLAN IN PLACE SO THAT THESE BUSINESS OWNERS CAN UNDERSTAND AND WE HAVE SOME TRANSPARENCY THERE IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY CAN BE EXPECTING OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS AND OF COURSE THE AREAS THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO INCREASE FOR WHATEVER REASON MAYBE WE HAVE LOWER COST THAT'S GREAT. BUT I'M JUST TO KIND OF BUILD THAT INTO OUR OUR SYSTEM AND PROCESSES.  THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER COUNCILMEMBER .  I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.  IS THERE ANY WAY OF REDUCING OUR COSTS THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THIS LARGE INCREASE AT ? I MEAN I DON'T I DON'T SEE THE BIG PICTURE RIGHT.  BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THE COMPLETE UNDERSTANDING TO THE REST OF MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE. HOWEVER I IF WE COULD CUT THE COSTS OF PERFORMING THESE INSPECTIONS AND WHATEVER IS REQUIRED WE COULD WE WOULDN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO HAVE THIS . YOU KNOW, I'M ALL FOR WHAT EVERYBODY AGREES ON. WE SHOULD RECOVER ALL THE COSTS THAT WE PUT IT BUT AT THE SAME TIME WE CAN TRY TO DO IT BY REDUCING YOU KNOW HOW WE GET THERE. I MEAN IF SOME POSSIBILITY OF DOING THAT THAT WILL BENEFIT EVERYBODY NOT JUST THE OWNERS BUT ALSO THE RENTERS IN SOME CASES HOWEVER WE WAN TO PUT IT ANY INCREASE IN ANY PRODUCT OUT THERE HURTS THE CONSUMER AT THE END OF IT THE CONSUMER IS WHAT GETS TO PAY FOR WHATEVER INCREASES TAKE PLACE INCREASES IN TAXES,  BUSINESSES WE HAVE TO PAY FOR IT IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR WE END UP PAYING FOR IT. SO THE RENTER WOULD EVENTUALLY HAVE TO GET HIT WITH THIS AND A CASES THE PEOPLE THAT ARE RENTING IT BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO BUY A HOUSE OR THEY DON'T HAVE THE NECESSARY AMOUNT OF TO DO BE BUYING THEIR OWN PROPERTY. SO TO ME IS IT ANYWHERE ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO REDUCE THE COST OF THIS CAN COUNCIL MEMBER MR. BARRY. THANK YOU MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS IT'S A GOOD QUESTION AND I'M WONDERING IF GRANT IN THE CONTROL ROOM CAN GET US BACK TO THE PAGE IN THE PRESENTATION THAT HAD THE RENTAL HOUSING PROGRAM COST THE ESTIMATED 2025 COST. THE QUESTION ABOUT WHAT WE CAN DO TO CONTAIN COSTS THIS IS A SERVICE THAT IS VERY VERY STAFF INTENSIVE.  SO MOST OF THE COSTS THAT HAVE BEEN SHARED WITH YOU ARE PEOPLE COSTS AND WE'RE GETTING CLOSE CLEAR GROUND. PAGE 157 I THINK MAYBE IT WAS AFTER THE PRESENTATION BUT AS AS I LOOK AT THESE AND I REFLECT ON WHAT MS. MOUA SAID AS PART OF THE PRESENTATION THE FACT THAT WE'VE ONLY ADDED ONE ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH STAFF PERSON IN TEN YEARS SINCE WE LAST IMPLEMENTED THE FEES AND THE NON PEOPLE COSTS PROVIDING THE SERVICE ARE ESSENTIALLY OVERHEAD COSTS THAT ARE RELATED TO I.T. THAT ARE RELATED TO FLEET, THAT ARE RELATED TO AND OCCUPANCY WITHIN THE BUILDING WHICH ARE FORMULAS THAT ARE APPLIED ON A EITHER A PER PERSON BASIS OR A PER BASIS OR PER SQUARE FOOTAGE BASIS. SO THOSE THOSE ARE OVERHEAD. THANK YOU. AND THOSE ARE THE OVERHEAD COSTS.  THE WAY TO CONTROL COSTS HERE WOULD TO REDUCE THE STAFFING THAT'S ALLOCATED TOWARDS IT AND THEN THAT JUST GETS COMPLICATED BY THE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT WE HAVE TO PROVIDE SERVICE TO ON AN ANNUAL BASIS AND OUR ABILITY TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT.  THANK YOU. MR. RUBIN.  SO COUNSEL, I THINK WE'RE IN AGREEMENT REGARDING THE COST RECOVERY I DO THINK WE'VE BROUGHT UP SOME POINTS OF DISCUSSION THAT MEAN WE MIGHT WANT TO MAYBE NOT TONIGHT BUT TO TAKE A LOOK AT DO WE WHAT WOULD WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF WE DID THIS EVERY OTHER YEAR? YOU KNOW WHAT, HOW DOES IT HOW DOES THAT PLAY OUT? AND THAT'S ONE WAY TO REDUCE THE COSTS IS TO MAKE IT AN END OF EVERY OTHER YEAR.  HOW DOES THAT WORK IN OTHER COMMUNITIES IN TERMS OF YOU KNOW, DOES IT WORK WELL FOR THEM AND YOU KNOW, MAYBE IS IT A IS IT A TRIAL BASIS THAT WE PUT IT ON TO SEE IF WE SEE SUBSTANTIAL REDUCTION IN THE QUALITY OF THE HOUSES OR THE UNITS FROM IF WE GIVE IT A ONE YEAR BREAK IN BETWEEN THINGS TO ABOUT.  SO I DO LIKE THAT AS A POSSIBLE TOPIC IN THE FUTURE AND AGREE COMPLETELY WITH THIS NOTION OF TAKING A LOOK AT OUR LEGISLATIVE AGENDA AND OPENING UP THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT MULTIFAMILY CARE OR MULTI TENANT CARE UNITS AND BECAUSE I AGREE COMPLETELY THAT THEY'RE THE MOST VULNERABLE AND TO COUNCILMEMBER NELSON'S POINT INSPECTING THE BUSINESS AS OPPOSED TO EXPECTING THE BUILDING I THINK IT'S IT'S THAT TO TALK ABOUT WITH OUR LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION SO COUNCIL OUR MOTION FORWARD HERE COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO SORRY MR. MAYOR I JUST DIDN'T DO WE WANT TO PUT FORWARD OPTION ONE AN OPTION TOO I GUESS WAS THE QUESTION I HAD I WAS KIND OF LEANING TOWARDS OPTION ONE JUST TO KIND OF MINIMIZE IT. IF WE COULD GET TO THIS FIVE YEAR STEP UP I THINK I HEARD MOST PEOPLE SUGGESTING WOULD GO WITH OPTION TWO SO I DIDN'T KNOW WHICH ONE TO PICK FROM TO PUT THE MOTION IN UNLESS IF COUNCILMEMBER LOMAN HAS A POINT OF VIEW I KNOW I WAS GOING TO JUST MAKE SURE WE MENTION IT TO THAT POINT THE STEP UP PIECE AND I THINK THAT'S YOU KNOW I THINK THE COUNCILMEMBER AND YOU'D ALSO MENTIONED THAT IDEA OF STEPPING IT UP AFTER THIS YEAR HAVING A FIVE YEAR LOOK OUT IF WE DO THAT FIVE YEAR KIND OF LOOK OUT AS A POLICY DISCUSSION THING THEN I COULD SUPPORT THE OPTION TOO BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA OF HAVING THAT THAT IDEA OF HAVING FOLKS.  I THINK THE BEST WAY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT COUNCILMEMBER ELEMENT IS THAT TO MOVE WITH WHATEVER MOTION WE DECIDE ON WITH YOU KNOW, THE THE THE OPTION ONE OR OPTION TWO AND THEN DIRECT STAFF THAT WE WANT TO LOOK AT THE STEP UP AND AND ACTUALLY CONSIDER SOME OF THESE OTHER THINGS AS WELL IN IN THE FUTURE IT'S BEEN TEN YEARS SINCE WE'VE REDONE THESE AND SO MAYBE IT'S TIME TO TO TAKE A LOOK AT SOME THINGS AS WELL AND I'LL BE HONEST FROM A FROM A LEVY PERSPECTIVE I'M AT THE AT THE AT THE OPTION NUMBER TWO BECAUSE I JUST THINK THAT THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO. THAT'S GOOD. ALL RIGHT, COUNCILMEMBER, YOU WANT TO TAKE IT? YEAH, I CAN TAKE IT HERE LET'S SEE HERE. I'VE GOT IT RIGHT HERE 4.2 AND OPTION NUMBER TWO IS THE SECOND ONE HERE. WHAT HEALTH FIRST ONE. I JUST SAY OPTION TWO WHEN YOU GET TO THE OPTION WITH THE BLANK IN IT YOU JUST SAY OPTION TWO. OKAY SO MOVED TO ADOPT AN ORDINANCE UPDATING THE RENTAL HOUSING CODE STANDARDS TO BE CONSISTENT WITH CHANGES IN THE MINNESOTA STATUTES FOR STATE LICENSING GROUP ADOPTING THE 2024 INTERNATIONAL PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE BY REFERENCE UPDATING 60 DAY LICENSE APPLICATION REQUIREMENTS UPDATING PROVISIONS FOR REINSPECTION FEES REMOVING REQUIREMENTS DISPLAYING CURRENT LICENSES WRITTEN NOTICE OF CHANGE OF AGENTS WITHIN 48 HOURS AND DISPLAY OF ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH CONTACT INFORMATION INCREASING LICENSE FEES FOR OPTION TWO AND MISCELLANEOUS UPDATES FOR CLARITY THEREBY AMENDING CHAPTERS 1415 APPENDIX A OF THE CITY CODE SAYING MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER TO ADOPT THE ORDINANCE UPDATING OUR RENTAL HOUSING CODE STANDARDS AND INCREASING THE LICENSE FEE PER OPTION TO AND ALL REST AND ALL THE REST OF THIS STATED BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN VERY ELOQUENTLY MOTION IN A SECOND ON THE TABLE ANY MORE ADDITIONAL COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON HEARING NONE RMS MERCER REVERSE DI ALESSANDRA I CARTER I MUA I LOWMAN NELSON I AND MAYOR BUSSEY I MOTION SEVEN ZERO THANK YOU MUCH TO STAFF THANKS FOR THE INPUT IT IS APPRECIATED AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WE NEED TO CONSIDER AND CONTINUE TO AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND.  IT'S A MATTER OF I MEAN THIS COUNCIL'S POLICY AND PRECEDENT MAKING SURE THAT WE MOVE TOWARD ONE 2% RECOVERY FOR A FEW YEARS AND SO SO ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YEAH. SO YOU READY FOR THE SUMMARY PUBLICATION, COUNCILMEMBER MOMENT. THANK YOU, MAYOR.  I'LL MOVE TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING SUMMARY PUBLICATION ORDINANCE UPDATING THE RENTAL HOUSING CODE STANDARDS. DO I NEED TO READ THIS ALL THE WAY THROUGH?  YEAH. OH YEAH.  AH. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I NEED IT.  I THINK CODE STANDARDS TO BE CONSISTENT WITH CHANGES IN MINNESOTA STATUTES FOR STATE LICENSING GROUP HOUSING ADOPTING THE 2024 INTERNATIONAL PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE BY REFERENCE UPDATING 60 DAY LICENSE APPLICATION REQUIREMENTS UPDATING PROVISIONS FOR INSPECTION FEE REQUIREMENTS FOR DISPLAYING CURRENT LICENSE WRITTEN NOTICES OF CHANGE OF AGENTS WITHIN 48 HOURS AND DISPLAYING ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH CONTACT INFORMATION, INCREASING LICENSE FEES AND MISCELLANEOUS UPDATES FOR THEREBY AMENDING CHAPTER 1415 AND AMENDING A OF THE CITY CODE SAYING MOST OF MY COUNCILMEMBER ALONE AND SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER AUTHORIZING SUMMARY PUBLICATION ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION COUNCIL NO FURTHER DISCUSSION IS MERCER DALLESSANDRO I WILL I LOWMAN NELSON RIVAS CARTER I MAYOR BUSSEY I MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO ON SUMMARY PUBLICATION THANK YOU MUCH MEANS MORE APPRECIATE IT. ITEM 4.3 AND OUR AGENDA IS OUR THIRD PUBLIC HEARING. MR. MAYOR EXCUSE ME QUICKLY CAN WE AGREEING TO TO PROVIDE DIRECTION TO TO STAFF ON THE OTHER STUFF DO YOU WANT TO DO THAT IN ORGANIZATION BUSINESS OR WHY DON'T WE WE CAN DO THAT RIGHT NOW. I THINK THAT MAKES GOOD GOOD SENSE FRANKLY AS WE'RE DONE WITH THIS FORMALLY DIRECT STAFF BASED ON THE NOTES YOU'VE TAKEN AND YOUR MEMORY OF YOUR RECOLLECTION OF THE DISCUSSION WE HAD ON ITEMS LIKE STEPPING UP OR USING STEP INCREASES PERHAPS LOOKING AT EVERY OTHER YEAR INSPECTIONS, LOOKING AT DIFFICULTIES TO TO REDUCE COSTS OR NORMALIZE OR STEADY THE COST AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE SO WE DON'T HAVE BIG JUMPS LIKE WE DO THIS YEAR.  THAT MAKES SENSE, MR. VERBAL. OKAY. VERY GOOD.  THANK YOU. THANKS FOR REMINDING ME. COUNCILMEMBER.  OUR THIRD PUBLIC HEARING THIS EVENING IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE ASSESSMENT RULES FOR 2024 AND BRIAN HANSON AND CHRISTIAN NOW GO ANOTHER CORRECT AND THEY SAY THEY ARE ON A GO NOW AND I GO THANK YOU FOR CORRECTING ME CIVIL. ENGINEER IS WITH US THIS EVENING. GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME. THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. CAST MEMBERS WE'RE HERE ONCE AGAIN TO DISCUSS THE 2024 ONE ON ONE SPECIAL ASSESSMENT ROLE THIS EVENING AND CHRISTIAN IS GOING TO GIVE BRIEF BACKGROUND ON THE PROJECT AND SOME INFORMATION ON THIS YEAR'S PROJECT AND I'M GOING TO JUMP IN PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION ON THE ASSESSMENT DETAILS AND WE'LL HAVE SOME TIME AGAIN FOR QUESTIONS SO WITHOUT TURNING OVER CHRISTIAN READING ROOM SAMIR MEMBERS CHRISTIAN AND I GO AS A BRAND STATED CIVIL ENGINEER OUR INFRASTRUCTURE GROUP SO OUR POSITION PRESENTATION TODAY WE'LL START BY GIVING OUT A QUICK RECAP OF THE TIMELINES OF WHAT HAS BEEN HAPPENING WITH THE PROCESS SO FAR IN 2018 2023 WE MAILED OUT THE ASSESSMENTS TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS OF THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES TO NOTIFY THEM OF THE PROJECT COME IN AND AND YOU KNOW TO BE ABLE TO BE EXPECTED ON OCTOBER 2023 AND NOVEMBER 11, 2023 WE WE HAD PROPERTY OWNER INFORMATIONAL MEETINGS PROVIDE INFORMATION ABOUT UPCOMING PROJECT AND TIMELINES OF CONSTRUCTION AND THINGS THAT WE EXPECTED AND WE CAME TO COUNCIL ON NOVEMBER 13, 2023 TO ORDER THE PROJECT HERE AND THEN AT VARIOUS TIMES DURING CONSTRUCTION WE'VE MAILED OUT NOTICES AND HANDOUTS TO INFORM RESIDENTS OF UPCOMING UPCOMING CONSTRUCTION AND AND OTHER OTHER CONSTRUCTION FACTS. AND THEN IN SEPTEMBER OF 2024 WE'VE HAD THE FINAL ASSESSMENT TO KIND OF SHOW THE FINAL BILL HERE AND ALSO HELD TWO ADDITIONAL PROPERTY OWNER INFORMATIONAL MEETINGS TO COVER A CLOSEOUT ITEMS AND OTHER THINGS AND FINAL SCHEDULES AND THEN WHICH BRINGS US TO TODAY WHERE WE'RE CONSIDERING ASSESSMENT ADOPTING THE FINAL ASSESSMENT ROLE THIS SLIDES IS JUST TO GO OVER THE PMP PROGRAM.  IT WAS A PROGRAM ESTABLISHED IN 1991 BY COUNSEL AS A WAY OF INTENTIONALLY AND COST EFFECTIVELY OUR ROAD INFRASTRUCTURE. THE PHILOSOPHY BEHIND IT WAS TO TAKE THE RIGHT ACTION AT THE RIGHT TIME IT USES AN INDEX CALLED THE PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX WHICH GIVES A RATING TO THE PAVEMENT SURFACE SO EVERY YEAR OUR MAINTENANCE STAFF GOES OUT AND ASSESSES ABOUT A THIRD OF THE CITY'S INFRASTRUCTURE ROAD INFRASTRUCTURE AND GIVES IT A RATING AND THAT RATING IT THEN THEN PUT IN OUR ASSET MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE FORECAST PROJECT FOR THE FUTURE YEARS ONCE WE DETERMINE WHAT PROJECTS ARE FOR FOR EACH PROJECT YEAR THESE PROJECTS ARE BID AS AS ONE PACKAGE BECAUSE WE FOUND THAT THAT'S THE MOST ECONOMICAL WAY OF GOING ABOUT THIS IT LOWERS THE ASSESSMENT FOR THE RESIDENTS OF THE ADJACENT PROPERTY PROPERTIES AND ALSO FOR THE OVERALL TAXPAYERS OF THE CITY.  NOT ALL PROPERTIES ARE BOUGHT EQUAL RIGHT AND WE DO APPLY DIFFERENT RATES FOR THESE PROPERTIES SO THE TWO AND THREE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ARE ASSESSED AT A 25% RATE AND ALL OF THE PROPERTIES ARE ASSESSED AT A 50% RATE. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.  SO WHAT ARE THE TECHNIQUES THAT WE USE FOR OUR PMP PROGRAM?  THE FIRST ONE DEPEND ON WHERE OUR PCI ENDS AND RANGES IS A RECONSTRUCT WHICH CONSISTS A FULL REMOVAL AND REPLACEMENT OF THE PAVEMENT SECTION. WE ALSO INSTALL CURB AND GUTTER IN AREAS THAT DO NOT HAVE COVERED GUTTER. AND THIS WORK IS DONE BY A CONTRACTOR THAT WE HIRE. SECOND TECHNIQUE IS LESS A LITTLE LESS INVASIVE DONE RECONSTRUCT WHICH IS THE OVERLAY WE ONLY TRAIN UP TO THE PORTION OF THE PAVEMENT AND REVENUE LAYER. WE ALSO SOME SOME MINOR CURB REPAIRS AS NEEDED AND IS ALSO DONE A CONTRACTOR HIRED BY CITY. IS THERE A TECHNIQUE HERE IS A SILK ROAD WHICH CONSISTS IN THE FIRST PLACE OF APPLYING A BY TUBULAR ADHESIVE TO THE STREET AND APPLYING A LAYER OF AGGREGATE AND STRIPPING OFF THE EXCESS. AND THIS TREATMENT THE EFFECT OF SEALING OFF THE TOP PORTION OF THE PAVEMENT TO PREVENT INFILTRATION. BECAUSE AS WE ALL KNOW, WATER IS THE ENEMY OF ALL PAVEMENT.  IT'S ALSO IT'S DONE BY A CONTRACTOR AS OUR SOUTH METRO JOINT POWERS AGREEMENT, WHICH IS AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITIES IN THE SOUTH METRO ALLOWS US TO GET BETTER RATE WITH THIS TYPE OF WORK.  AND THEN FINALLY WE DO ALSO PIPE TRAIL PROJECTS WITH WHICH IS MAINTENANCE DOWN TO OUR TRAIL TRAIL PROJECT. SO WITH THE YOU NOTICE THAT THERE'S NO OVERLAY OF THE TRAIL BECAUSE THE TRAIL SET SECTIONS ARE A LOT SMALLER THINNER THAN OUR ROAD INFRASTRUCTURE. SO THERE'S NO WAY TO BUILD THAT OFF. SO WE JUST REMOVE AND REPLACE ANYTHING THAT'S DAMAGE. WE ALSO DO SOME CRACKS CEILINGS SO THAT WE WILL SEE ALL THESE.  AGAIN, THIS IS DONE TO PREVENT WATER INFILTRATION AND PROTECT THOSE TRAILS. AND THIS IS THIS CAN BE DONE BY A CONTRACTOR BY THE CITY BUT IT'S ALSO PERFORMED AT TIMES BY OUR CEMENT DEPARTMENT EXCLUSIVELY. SO THIS NEXT SLIDE IS JUST A LIFE COURSE ANALYSIS A COMPARISON BETWEEN TWO DIFFERENT PAVEMENT TYPES. SO THE FIRST ONE IS A PAVEMENT THAT ISN'T UNDER THE PUMP MAINTENANCE.  SO BASICALLY YOU CAN SEE THE PIECES THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER WHEN WE BUILD A BRAND NEW ROAD. IT'S IT'S RATED AT 100 AND IF NO MAINTENANCE IS DONE IT'S LEFT TO DETERIORATE, NEEDING TO RECONSTRUCT AND FAIRLY QUICKLY ARE ON THE RIGHT. THE FIGURE IS ACTUALLY SHOWING A STREET SEGMENT THAT'S UNDER OUR PMP, PMP RAIN MANAGEMENT PROGRAM AND YOU CAN SEE THAT BY APPLYING THESE VARIOUS TECHNIQUES AT SCHEDULE TIME WE CAN GREATLY EXTEND THE CYCLE OF THE PAVEMENT AND REDUCE THE OVERALL COST. SO YOU CAN THINK OF THE VIP AS A AS A AS A MAINTENANCE POINT MAINTENANCE PLAN AKIN TO SOMETHING YOU HAVE ON YOUR CAR WHERE YOU DO PERIODICAL MAINTENANCE SO THAT YOU CAN REDUCE THE OVERALL COST. YOU DON'T HAVE TO BUY A NEW ENGINE IN A FEW YEARS. AND WITH THAT I'LL PASS IT TO BRIAN TO GO OUR ASSESSMENT. YEAH. THANK YOU, CHRIS. AND SO JUST A QUICK BACKGROUND FOR THOSE WHO ARE MAYBE WATCHING ONLINE. MISSILE STATE STATUTE FOR 29 IS WHAT GIVES ME THE PILOT IS THE RATE OR THE ABILITY I SHOULD SAY TO LEVY SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS FOR CERTAIN IMPROVEMENTS.  THE CITY'S SPECIAL ASSESSMENT POLICY HAS BEEN IN PLACE SINCE 1962. IT'S BEEN UPDATED MULTIPLE TIMES SINCE THEN BUT THE BASIS FOR THE DETERMINATION OF SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS HERE IN BLOOMINGTON, THE ADJUSTED FRONT FOOTAGE. SO IT EQUATES ALL LOTS INTERACTIVE AS THOUGH THEY'RE A RECTANGULAR LOT. SO REGARDLESS OF THE LOT SHAPE WE TREAT THEM ALL AS THEY RECTANGULAR LOTS. AND THEN BASED ON THAT AFFO AFFO WE MULTIPLY THAT BY THE COST THE RATE PER IMPROVEMENT AND THAT'S HOW WE DETERMINE THE FINAL ASSESSMENT AMOUNT. AND THEN OTHER CITIES USE SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS AS PART OF THEIR FUNDING AS WELL FOR CERTAIN PROJECTS. SO WE UTILIZE THOSE FOR THE RECONSTRUCT PROJECTS HERE IN BLOOMINGTON.  SO FOR THE 2024 PMP RECONSTRUCT PROJECT HERE THE TOTAL PROJECT COST WAS JUST OVER $7.6 MILLION. THIS INCLUDED A LOT OF WORK INCLUDING SURFACING CURB AND GUTTER UTILITY WORK FOR THE PROJECT WE ONLY ASSESSED SURFACING AND CURB AND GUTTER WORK SO THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE SUBJECT TO AN ASSESSMENT WITH THIS YEAR'S PROJECT FOR THE COST THE TOTAL ASSESSED SERVICING COST WAS JUST OVER 3.1 MILLION. SO TO DETERMINE OUR RATES WE TAKE THE TOTAL COST OF THAT IMPROVEMENT DIVIDED BY THE TOTAL AFFO OF ALL THE PROPERTIES HAVE ARE SUBJECT TO THE ASSESSMENT FOR SURFACING AND THEN GET THAT 100% RIGHT THERE THAT ONE 4623. SO AS KRISTEN MENTIONED WE HAVE TWO RATES THAT WE ASSESS HERE FOR HERE IN BLOOMINGTON THE SINGLE AND THREE FAMILY RATE IS THAT 25% RATE WHICH CAME OUT TO 3656 PER ADJUSTED FOR ON FOOT AND THEN 50% RATES FOR ALL OTHER PROPERTIES. SO YOU CAN SEE THAT  7312 IS THAT RATE. SIMILARLY WE DO THE SAME EXERCISE FOR THE AND GUTTER THAT COST CAME IN AT JUST OVER $790,000. YOU'LL NOTICE THERE'S A LOT LESS AFFO TO CALCULATE THAT TOTAL AFFO FOR THE 2% RATE AND THAT'S BECAUSE IN BLOOMINGTON WE ONLY ASSESSED FOR THE INITIAL INSTALLATION OF CURVE GUTTER. SO IF CARBON GUTTERS ALREADY IN PLACE ON A STREET THAT WAS PART OF THE RECONSTRUCT PROJECT THOSE PARCELS AREN'T AREN'T ASSESSED FOR THAT WORK. IF THERE'S THERE'S SEGMENTS THAT GET REPLACED WITH THE PROJECT THAT'S INCLUDED IN THAT SERVICING COST SO ONLY STREETS THAT DIDN'T HAVE CARBON GOT HERE PREVIOUSLY ARE SUBJECT TO AN ASSESSMENT FOR THAT IMPROVEMENT.  SO AGAIN DOING THAT SAME MATH WE HAVE THE 25% RATE FOR THE SINGLE TWO AND THREE FAMILY THAT COMES OUT TO 2569 FOR ADJUSTED FRONT FOOTAGE AND THEN THAT 50% RATE FOR ALL THEIR PROPERTIES IS THAT 5138. SO THE RATES MULTIPLIED BY THE ADJUSTED FRONT FOOD PARCELS HOW THAT FINAL ASSESSMENT BILL WAS CALCULATED I SHOULD KNOW AT THIS POINT TOO THAT WE DO DO A SPECIAL BENEFIT BEFORE THE FINAL RATES ARE SENT OUT. THIS IS TO LOOK AT ALL PROPERTIES TO ENSURE THAT OUR ASSESSMENT CALCULATIONS DON'T EXCEED MAXIMUM SPECIAL BENEFIT THE PROPERTY RECEIVES FROM THE IMPROVEMENT PROJECT.  SO IF WE DO DETERMINE THAT THE ASSESSMENT RATE CALCULATED USING OUR EXCEEDS THAT SPECIAL BENEFIT WE ADJUST THE FINAL ASSESSMENT AMOUNT TO BE IN LINE WITH THAT SPECIAL BENEFIT.  AND WITH THIS YEAR'S PROJECT WE DID ADJUST EIGHT PARCELS THIS YEAR WHICH IS PRETTY AVERAGE. USUALLY WE SEE BETWEEN I WOULD SAY YOU KNOW 8 TO 3 PARCELS A YEAR GET ADJUSTED AND MOST OFTEN THOSE ARE NONRESIDENTIAL PARCELS SO LARGER INDUSTRIAL MULTIFAMILY AND OR OPEN SPACE IS TYPICALLY WHAT WE SEE THAT NEED ADJUSTMENT BASED ON THE SPECIAL BENEFIT ANALYSIS AND THAT WAS THE CASE THIS YEAR WITH EIGHT PARCELS THAT WERE ADJUSTED.  SO PAYMENT OPTIONS IF THE ASSESSMENT ROLL IS APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL THIS EVENING PROPERTIES FACING AN ASSESSMENT WOULD HAVE UNTIL NOVEMBER 27TH TO PREPAY ANY AMOUNT OF $100 MINIMUM UP TO THE TOTAL AMOUNTS AND NO INTEREST WOULD BE APPLIED. SO THEY CAN AVOID PAYING ANY INTEREST BY PAYING IT OFF BEFORE NOVEMBER 27TH AFTER NOVEMBER 27TH AND ANY REMAINING BALANCE IS AUTOMATICALLY ROLLED ON TO THE PROPERTY TAX STATEMENT AND THEN SPREAD OUT EVENLY OVER TEN YEARS. THE PRINCIPLE IS WITH THAT FIVE AND A HALF PERCENT OF INTEREST ANNUALLY TO THE DECLINING PRINCIPAL. SO IF A HOMEOWNER DID NOT PARCEL ON OUR PROPERTY OR DID NOT PAY ANY PORTION OF THEIR ASSESSMENTS IT WERE TO BE LEVIED PRIOR TO NOVEMBER 27TH. THE ENTIRE AMOUNT BE ROLLED ON TO THE PROPERTY TAXES IN THE FIRST TIME THEY WOULD SEE A BILL REVIEW OF THEIR MAY OF 2025 PROPERTY TAX STATEMENT AND IF THEY'RE TO LET THAT ROLL OUT THROUGHOUT ENTIRE LIFE SPAN OF THE ASSESSMENT, THE LAST PAYMENT THEY WOULD SEE WOULD BE WITH THEIR OCTOBER OF 2030 FOR OUR PROPERTY TAX STATEMENT WE OFTEN QUESTIONS ABOUT CAN I PAY OFF A PORTION OF IT OR CAN I PAY IT OFF PRIOR THE END OF THAT TEN YEAR TERM? YES YOU CAN BUT ONCE IT GOES ONTO THE PROPERTY TAXES THE ONLY PAYMENT OPTIONS ARE TO PAY WHAT TO DO WITH THAT PROPERTY TAX STATEMENT AND OR THE AMOUNT IN FULL THE COUNTY WILL NOT ACCEPT PARTIAL PAYMENTS AT THAT POINT SO IF YOU HAVE EXTRA MONEY YOU WANT TO PUT TOWARDS THAT UNFORTUNATELY THE CARNIVAL ITSELF WHAT'S DUE AT THAT POINT OR THE BALANCE IN FULL.  SO AT ANY POINT DURING THOSE TEN YEARS YOU CAN PAY OFF THE BALANCE IN FULL AND AVOID ACCRUING ANY ADDITIONAL INTEREST. SO IF YOU HAD TO PAY IT OFF AFTER THE THREE YEARS YOU WOULD AVOID THE ADDITIONAL SEVEN YEARS OF INTEREST.  THERE IS ALSO A HARDSHIP DEFERRAL FOR THOSE WHO QUALIFY SO THERE ARE SOME REQUIREMENTS YOU NEED TO MEET FOR THE HARDSHIP DEFERRAL. SO IF YOU DO MEET THESE REQUIREMENTS TO DEFER THE ASSESSMENT IF IT IS ASSESSED DOES NOT IT IS NOT A FORGIVENESS OF THE ASSESSMENT. IT'S IMPORTANT TO POINT THAT OUT AND INTEREST STILL DOES APPLY COMPOUNDING ANNUALLY ON THAT DEFERRED DEFERRED ASSESSMENT EXCUSE ME AND ONCE THAT ASSESSMENT IS NO LONGER QUALIFIED FOR DEFERRAL EITHER BY SOMEONE NO LONGER MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS OF DEFERRAL OR THE PROPERTY CHANGES OWNERSHIP THAT ASSESSMENT BECOMES FALL AND ARE DUE IN FULL EXCUSE ME SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT AND IF SOMEONE IS INTERESTED IN AND LOOKING AT THE HARDSHIP DEFERRAL AND THINK THEY MIGHT QUALIFY ONE KNOWS MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT THEY CAN CONTACT OUR ASSESSING DIVISION AND THEY CAN KIND OF GIVE THEM AN IDEA OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE AND WHAT THOSE PAYMENTS MAY LOOK LIKE OR THAT ASSESSMENT AMOUNT MAY LOOK LIKE IF IT WAS TO BE DEFERRED FOR MULTIPLE YEARS. LASTLY, I WANT TO POINT OUT THERE IS AN APPEAL PROCESS AND STATE STATUTE FOR 29. SO IF OUR ASSESSMENT IS LEVIED THIS EVENING AND PROPERTY OWNER WANTS TO CONTEST THAT ASSESSMENT THERE IS A PROCESS TO DO SO THAT IS DONE THROUGH DISTRICT COURT. ONE THING I WILL POINT OUT IS THE PROPERTY OWNER DOES NEED TO NOTIFY THE CITY WITHIN 30 DAYS OF THE LEVYING OF THE ASSESSMENT THEY PLAN TO APPEAL IF THAT'S THERE, IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO PURSUE THAT AND THE STEPS OF PURSUING THAT ARE LAID OUT IN SECTION 40 OF STATE STATUTE FOR 29.  SO WITH THAT I JUST WANT TO SUMMARIZE SO PMP PROGRAM IS THE RIGHT ACTION AT THE RIGHT TIME AND HELPS PROLONG PAVEMENT LIFE.  KRISTIAN MENTIONED EARLIER IT KEEPS OUR CITY'S INFRASTRUCTURE IN GOOD CONDITION IT MAINTAINS OR INCREASES PROPERTY VALUES AND REDUCES THE OVERALL COST OF THE PROJECT BY DOING THE RIGHT ACTION AT THE RIGHT TIME AND THAT WE HAVE A SUGGESTED MOTION AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU GENTLEMAN COUNSEL ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN JUST THREE REAL QUICK ONES AND I'M NOT LOOKING FOR ANSWERS TONIGHT SO BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT SO JUST AS YOU'RE GOING THROUGH THE EXCELLENT PRESENTATION AS USUAL THIS YEAR, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT CAME TO MY MIND IS HOW MANY OF OUR ROADS MAKE IT THAT 80? AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE DIFFERENT MAKE UPS, YOU KNOW, AGGREGATE UNDER THE ROADS AND DIFFERENT CONDITIONS, DIFFERENT OF THINGS.  SO IT'S NOT FAIR TO SAY THAT EVERY ROAD GETS TO 80. IT'S JUST DEPENDING ON THE BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THAT. YOU KNOW HOW MANY OVER OVER THE YEARS HAVE NOTICED THAT HAVE GOTTEN TO THAT 80 THAT THAT 80 YEAR TIME FRAME?  SECONDARILY THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS YOU KNOW, I'VE NOTICED OVER THE YEARS THE UTILITIES THEY CUT THOSE OUT. DOES THAT HAVE ANY IMPACT AT ALL TO THE GETTING TO THEIR 80 YEARS? HAVE YOU NOTICED THAT IF THEY HAVE TO HAVE CUT OUTS IN MOST SO THOSE ARE KIND OF TWO QUESTIONS I'VE HAD AND THEN I ALWAYS APPRECIATED THAT YOU PUT WHAT THE 100% ASSESSMENT WOULD BE.  I KNOW THERE IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY DIANA CHARGES 100% ASSESSMENT FOR THIS AND WE HAVE IN A SENSE A SUBSIDY THAT WE PROVIDE FOR CERTAIN PROPERTIES UP TO CAN BE 50 OR 75% AND I KNOW AND I'M NOT I'M NOT SUGGESTING THIS TO NIGHTMARE BUT I THINK AS WE LOOK AT YOU KNOW, THESE COST RECOVERIES AND THAT TYPE OF THING AND I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT WE WHAT DIANA DOES BUT I THINK WE NEED TO ALSO JUST MAKE SURE THAT FOLKS ARE AWARE OF THE BENEFIT THAT WE HAVE OF LIVING IN BLOOMINGTON AND THAT WHEN WE DO THESE PROJECTS THAT WE AS THE TAXPAYERS ALSO PICK UP YOU KNOW, FROM A DIFFERING STANDPOINT THAT AMOUNT OVER TIME AND THAT'S THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF WHERE THAT COST RECOVERY WORKS IN A DIFFERENT DIFFERENT MANNER BECAUSE WE SEE THE PUBLIC BENEFIT OF OF BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT BECAUSE OTHER FOLKS TAKE THOSE ROADS SO THAT'S A THANK YOU NOTES MEMBER COUNCIL ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS YOU'VE ALL SEEN THIS PRESENTATION EXCEPT FOR COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS IT'S MAYBE YOUR FIRST TIME YOU'VE SEEN THIS ONE. SO YEAH.  ALL RIGHT.  VERY GOOD. THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN. DON'T GO FAR IN CASE WE HAVE QUESTIONS, THIS IS ITEM 4.3 A PUBLIC HEARING AND I WILL OPEN IT NOW THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE ASSESSMENT ROLE 2020 4-1 THIS IS RELATED TO OUR PAPER MANAGEMENT PROGRAM HERE IN CITY OF BLOOMINGTON.  ANYONE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS WISHING TO SPEAK TO ITEM 4.3 THIS EVENING?  MR. ALDERMAN, DO WE HAVE ANYONE ON THE PHONE MR. MAYOR, THERE'S NO ONE ON LINE LAST CALL FOR ANYBODY IN THE CHAMBERS COUNCIL, NO ONE ON THE PHONE, NO ONE COMING FORWARD IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS I WOULD LOOK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING IN ITEM 4.3 SO SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC ITEM 4.3 NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS.  MS. MERCER FROM CARTER I MUA I LOWMAN NELSON I RIVAS I DALLESSANDRO MAYOR BUSSEY I MOTION SEVEN ZERO CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND IN 4.3 ITS COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ANYTHING TO BRING FORWARD COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN WITH SOME GOOD QUESTIONS AT LEAST TWO TO CONSIDER AND ESPECIALLY GIVEN ALL OF THE UTILITY WORK IN THE CITY RIGHT NOW YOU DO WONDER THE ANSWER IS YES IT DOES HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE OVERALL STRUCTURE, THE LONGEVITY OF THE PAVEMENT BUT IT DEPENDS HOW LONG AND THAT'S WHY WE DO SOME OF THE WORK AS WELL. COUNCIL ANYTHING IF NOT I WOULD LOOK FOR ACTION ON THAT IN 4.3 THIS EVENING. COUNCILMEMBER FREEMAN I MOVED TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION ASSESSMENT RULE 2020 4-1 FOR THE 2024 POPPY RECONSTRUCTION PROJECTS STREET REFERENCE SEGMENTS ONE THROUGH SEVEN NINE THROUGH 13/2 MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION THE ASSESSMENT ROLL 2020 4-1 FOR THE 2024 PMP RECONSTRUCTION PROJECTS NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS MS. MERCER CARTER I MUA I LOWMAN NELSON RIVAS SANDRA MAYOR BUZZI I MOTION CARRIED SEVEN ZERO THANK YOU GENTLEMEN. THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION AS ALWAYS. IT'S ALWAYS ACTUALLY VERY INFORMATIVE AND IT'S GOOD INFORMATION IT SHOWS THE GOOD WORK THAT WE DO WITH FOR OUR STREETS HERE IN BLOOMINGTON. SO THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.  OUR FINAL PUBLIC HEARING OF THE EVENING'S ITEM POINT FOUR THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING CITY CODE AMENDMENTS ESPECIALLY TO STREAMLINED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE. WE'VE GOT NICK, OUR PLANNING SUPERVISOR HERE TO LEAD US THROUGH THIS. GOOD EVENING, MR. JOHNSON.  THANK YOU, MAYOR BUSSEY. GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL. MAYOR AND MEMBERS, I'M EXCITED TO PRESENT THIS ORDINANCE TO YOU THIS EVENING. SO I'LL GET RIGHT INTO IT.  SO THIS IS JUST AN AGENDA SLIDE QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE CONTENT THAT WILL BE DISCUSSING THIS EVENING AS IT RELATES TO STREAMLINING DEVELOPMENT.  SO IN TERMS OF BACKGROUND ABOUT THIS PROJECT, YOU KNOW THIS WAS AN ADOPTED PROJECT AS PART OF THE 2024 PLANNING COMMISSION WORK PLAN. I THINK THERE WAS AN INCREASED EMPHASIS THIS YEAR ON PROJECTS THAT CAN IMPROVE THE CLIMATE OR REGULATORY ENVIRONMENT FOR BUSINESSES AS WELL AS IMPROVE HOUSING PRODUCTION IN VARIOUS WAYS. SO THIS CERTAINLY ONE OF THOSE PROJECTS THAT I BELIEVE WILL HELP IN BOTH OF THOSE ARENAS IN TERMS OF WHY STREAMLINE DEVELOPMENT.  YOU KNOW IT'S A LOT OF CITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY ARE LOOKING AT THIS A WAYS TO GET OUT OF THE WAY IN ORDER TO MAKE IT EASIER TO DO THESE THINGS THAT I MENTIONED. BUT FOR THE PURPOSES OF OUR PROJECT WE DEFINED IT IN FOUR WAYS JUST IN TERMS OF WANTING TO LOWER HURDLES, LOWER BARRIERS IN THE WAYS OF REDUCING TIME, REDUCING COST, REDUCING REGULATORY COMPLEXITY AND INCREASING THE APPLICANT'S CONFIDENCE THAT IF THEY SUBMIT AN APPLICATION THAT THEY WILL GET APPROVAL FOR THEIR PROJECT. AND SO THESE ARE KIND OF SERVED AS INFORMAL METRICS FOR THE VARIOUS CONTENT OR THE WAYS THAT WE ULTIMATELY STREAMLINING DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE ZONING CODE . IN TERMS OF ALSO WHY TO DO THIS SO THIS EFFORT IS VERY MUCH IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BOTH THE LAND ELEMENT AND THE HOUSING ELEMENT OF THE CURRENT PLAN AS WELL AS THE CITY'S FIVE YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN. BEATTY MOST NOTABLY ABOUT TRYING TO ADVANCE ECONOMIC GROWTH AND ORDER JUST IN TERMS OF JUST MAKING IT EASIER TO GET APPROVAL. WE KNOW THAT MORE COMPLEX REGULATORY ENVIRONMENTS FAVOR GROUPS AND ENTITIES WITH MORE RESOURCES, NOT LESS OR MORE EXPERIENCE IN THE ARENA. SO THOSE ARE JUST A COUPLE OF POINTS ABOUT THE WHY. ONE POINT I'VE MADE AT PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL THROUGH THIS PROCESS IS THAT WHEN A CITY IS LOOKING TO DO THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE AND BE ON THE RECORD ABOUT MAINTAINING REALLY HIGH QUALITY INTERNAL REVIEW PROCEDURES SO THAT YOU'RE ENSURING COMPLIANCE THE CODE YOU'RE BRINGING ALL THE VARIOUS DIFFERENT GROUPS TOGETHER.  THE BLOOMINGTON INTERNAL REVIEW HAS A FORMAL GROUP DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE DRC WE MEET TWO OR THREE TIMES A MONTH INVOLVES ALL OF THE VARIOUS SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS FROM ACROSS THE ORGANIZATION WHO HAVE A ROLE IN REVIEWING DEVELOPMENTS. SO IT'S A VERY RIGOROUS COMPREHENSIVE AND QUALITY INTERNAL REVIEW THAT ULTIMATELY ALSO DOES NOT HAVE A COST ASSOCIATED WITH SO YOU CAN SUBMIT A DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL TO THE CITY'S DRC GET REVIEW COMMENTS AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THE RIGHT PATHWAY IS FOR . A NOTE THAT COUNCILMEMBER NELSON BROUGHT UP IN OUR STUDY SESSION THAT I THOUGHT WAS VERY IMPORTANT IS THAT WE HAVE TO DO ONGOING EVALUATION HOW THIS IS GOING TO GO. WE MENTIONED THAT 2009 WAS THE LAST TIME THAT WE DID THIS MORE INTENTIONAL PROCEDURAL REVIEW AND SO I THINK AS WE DEVELOP OR ADOPT SOME OF THESE TYPES CHANGES, IT'LL BE IMPORTANT FOR STAFF TO CONTINUE TO EVALUATE HOW IT'S GOING AND MAKE ADJUSTMENTS EVERY SO OFTEN NOT YEARS DOWN THE ROAD. I THINK JUST A NOTE ABOUT THE PROCESS THAT WE'VE COMPLETED TO DATE SO WE'VE BEEN VERY DELIBERATE TONIGHT. YOU KNOW THE HOURS I'LL MENTION ARE THREE STUDY SESSIONS BETWEEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL ARE THE OVER 5 HOURS OF DISCUSSION JUST IN THOSE THREE STUDY SESSIONS. IN ADDITION TO THAT, A LOT OF INTERNAL STAFF HOURS IN TERMS OF THE LEADERSHIP OF THE PLANNING DIVISION AND OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING DIVISION AND THEN CASTING OUT THAT WITH OUR PARTNERS IN ENGINEERING AND ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH AND OTHER PEOPLE IN COMMITTEE TO REALLY MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE COMFORTABLE WITH KIND OF THE PROCESS AND ULTIMATELY WHAT THESE PROCEDURAL STEPS WILL BE. AND SO IT'S BEEN A VERY PROCESS AND I THINK IT'S ONE THAT WE'RE PROUD OF . THE PLANNING COMMISSION HELD A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ORDINANCE ON SEPTEMBER 5TH. THEY DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS ORDINANCE AND JUST AS A THE ORDINANCE ITSELF WOULD AMEND THE FOLLOWING CHAPTERS YOUR SCREEN THERE.  SO I'M GOING TO PROVIDE JUST A QUICK SUMMARY A COUPLE NOTES I WANT TO MAKE. THERE'S THREE SPECIFIC HIGHLIGHTS OR KIND OF UPDATES FOR YOU SINCE WE LAST THAT I REALLY WANT TO DEVOTE MORE OF MY SPEAKING TIME TO. SO THOSE ARE BOLD ON YOUR SCREEN AS WE KIND OF GO THROUGH THE SUMMARY. BUT TWO OTHER POINTS I WANT TO MAKE. SO ONE OF THE KEY WAYS TO STREAMLINE IS TO LOWER THE AUTHORITY WHO CAN APPROVE APPLICATIONS BECAUSE IT JUST TENDS TO EXPEDITE THE AMOUNT OF TIME AND IT COSTS OVERALL.  AND SO IN SOME CASES THAT'S THE PLANNING COMMISSION COMMISSION EXCUSE ME IN SOME CASES THAT STAFF IF IT'S A BUILDING PERMIT OR EXPANDING ADMINISTRATIVE SITE PLAN REVIEW. ONE THING I DO WANT TO NOTE THOUGH IS THAT WE'VE RETAINED ALL OF THE ABILITIES PATHWAYS TO APPEAL OUR FINAL DECISIONS TO ULTIMATELY SOME OF THESE APPLICATIONS BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL IF NECESSARY.  SO I WANT TO ASSURE EVERYONE THAT THAT THAT THOSE PATHWAYS ARE MAINTAINED.  AND THE OTHER THING TO UPDATE FROM OUR FEEDBACK WE FROM THE CITY COUNCIL WAS THAT IF APPLICATION IS ACTED UPON BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE ACTION IS INCONSISTENT THE DECISION OR RECOMMENDATION OF STAFF IN OTHER WORDS YOU HAVE TWO GROUPS REVIEWING THE APPLICATION TO COME TO DIFFERENT CONCLUSIONS AN AUTOMATIC TRIGGER TO GO ON TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THAT REASON TO GET A THIRD SET OF EYES ON THAT. SO JUST TO NOTE THAT WE ARE THE ORDINANCE WOULD GRANT ADDITIONAL DECISION MAKING AUTHORITY TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION BUT IT IS SUBJECT TO APPEAL SIMILAR TO SOME OF OUR CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS THAT DOES TODAY.  SO I DO EMPHASIZE THAT JUST IN TERMS OF THE SUMMARY SO THE ADMINISTRATIVE CODE PROVISIONS WOULD BE REMOVED ZONING VARIANCE APPROVAL AUTHORITY SHIFTED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPEALS TO INTERPRETATION SHIFTED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS SHIFTED TO PC SUBJECT TO APPEAL CONDITIONAL USE REVIEW SO THIS ORDINANCE AND WE'LL GET INTO IN A LITTLE MORE DETAIL HERE IN A MINUTE WOULD CHANGE THE STATUS OF 45 USES FROM CONDITIONAL TO PERMITTED ON SOME LEVEL TEN PERMIT EXTENSIONS SHIFTING THAT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION PERMIT APPEALS TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION THE 82 APPROVAL PROCESS AND THE TWO FAMILY DRAWING APPROVAL PROCESS THAT TO A BUILDING PERMIT LEVEL DECISION OUTDOOR DINING NOISE MITIGATION THAT'S ONE OF OUR SOLUTIONS THAT WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT WITH TO OUTDOOR DINING ASSOCIATED WITH RESTAURANTS. THE SIGN APPROVAL AUTHORITY AGAIN SHIFTING TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION THE EXPANSION OF ADMINISTRATIVE FINAL SITE BUILDING PLAN REVIEW DEVELOPMENT PLANS.  AGAIN THIS HAS TO DO WITH SITE PLAN REVIEW IN EFFECT CFP AND IEP APPROVAL AUTHORITY SOME APPLICATION PROCESS CHANGES AND THEN ANOTHER THING THAT WE'RE PROUD OF IS A REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION PROCESS WITHIN THE ZONING CODE AND WORK WITH OUR PARTNERS AND LEGAL AND THEN JUST THE FEE SCHEDULE CHANGES THAT BASICALLY EFFECTUATE ALL OF THESE PROCEDURAL WITHIN THIS ORDINANCE. SO INTO THE KEY HIGHLIGHTS YOU'LL NOTICE I HIGHLIGHTED THREE TOPICS ON THE SLIDE. SO THIS IS WHERE WE WANT TO GET MORE GRANULAR INTO THE DETAILS. SO THE FIRST ONE IS THE CONDITIONAL USES REVIEW. SO IF YOU RECALL THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL STUDY SESSION PROCESS WE INITIALLY PRESENTED A LIST OF 57 USES THAT WE FELT WERE CANDIDATES TO CHANGE FROM CONDITIONAL PERMITTED ON SOME LEVEL THIS EXHIBIT IN YOUR PACKET EXHIBIT A LISTS ALL 57 OF THOSE.  WITHIN THAT YOU'LL NOTE THAT SOME OF THEM ARE HIGHLIGHTED YELLOW AND THE REASON THAT SOME OF THEM ARE HIGHLIGHTED IS THAT THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION STUDY SESSION THEIR SECOND STUDY SESSION THEY ACTUALLY DEDICATED 2 HOURS OF DISCUSSION TO WORKING THROUGH EVERY ALL 112 OF THE USES THAT WE EVALUATED. SO IT WAS A GREAT AMOUNT OF RIGOROUS WORK ON THEIR PART DO THAT AND THEY REMOVED RECOMMENDED REMOVING 12 OF THOSE USES AS PART OF THAT INITIAL 57 THAT STAFF PRESENTED AND SO WE PRESENTED THAT TO YOU THROUGH THE DISCUSSION WITH THE CITY COUNCIL. THE DECISION WAS MADE AT THAT TIME TO KEEP THE 57 WITHIN THE ORDINANCE AND THE NOTICE PROCEDURES AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS REALLY TO MAINTAIN FLEXIBILITY IN TERMS OF WHAT ORDINANCE THE CITY COUNCIL WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH .  AS WE BROUGHT IT THROUGH THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS, THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID AGAIN RECOMMEND OR AFFIRM THEIR INITIAL RECOMMENDATION AROUND THE 45 USES AND SO I CAN SHOW YOU A SLIDE HERE ON THE NEXT ONE OF WHAT THOSE 12 USES THAT THEY REMOVED WERE BUT IT'S I KNOW IT'S A TYPICAL OR NOT ALWAYS IDEAL TO INCLUDE MULTIPLE OPTIONS OF ORDINANCE IN YOUR PACKET BUT WE DO HAVE OPTION THE MAIN OPTION IS THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED OPTION AND THAT'S AGAIN FOLLOWING THEIR RECOMMENDATION OF 45 USES. WE DO HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE OPTION B IT HAS A HEADER THAT SAYS THAT AND SO IT MAKES SURE NOT TO CONFUSE THE TWO BUT BASICALLY THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO IS INHERENTLY WITHIN THOSE 12 USES OTHERWISE THEY'RE IDENTICAL.  THE STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF BOTH OF THESE OPTIONS. APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT PLANNING COMMISSION DID. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SPECIFICS. HERE WERE THE 12 USES THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION FELT IT WAS MORE APPROPRIATE TO RETAIN TO DESIGNATE THEM AS CONDITIONAL NECESSITATING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT SO I WON'T READ THEM OFF THE SLIDE BUT IF YOU WANT TO RETURN TO THIS WE CERTAINLY CAN. THE SECOND ISSUE THAT WE DID NOT HAVE A FINAL RESOLUTION TOWARDS WHEN LEFT OUR STUDY SESSION PROCESS HAD TO DO WITH OUTDOOR DINING STAFF WAS WRESTLING WITH THE CHALLENGE THAT BASICALLY ALL OUTDOOR PATIOS NOW ARE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUIRED RANGING FROM THE ONES TO THE LARGEST ONES TO ONES THAT AREN'T NEAR RESIDENTIAL USES THAT ARE HAVE VERY LITTLE NUISANCE POTENTIAL AND SO WE WERE TRYING TO THINK CREATIVELY ABOUT HOW TO GET SOMEWHERE WHERE WE COULD HAVE OUTDOOR DINING BE A FLAT PERMITTED USE BUT SUBJECT TO SOME STANDARDS THAT WE FELT WOULD PROTECT AGAINST SOME OF THE INSTANCES OF NUISANCE THAT WE'VE EXPERIENCED THE PAST. AND SO WE ARRIVED AT THE SOLUTION AND THE SOLUTION IS THAT STAFF AND PLANNING COMMISSION WOULD RECOMMEND THAT OUTDOOR DINING THAT'S ON A ROOFTOP SO ROOFTOP DINING WOULD REMAIN A CONDITIONAL USE SIMILAR DRIVE THRU RESTAURANTS FOR EXAMPLE AND WITH THAT AT GRADE OUTDOOR DINING WOULD BE A PERMITTED BUT WE'RE RECOMMENDING TO IN ADDITION TO THE RESTAURANT USE STANDARDS BASICALLY THAT STATES THAT A NOISE MITIGATION PLAN WOULD BE A REQUIREMENT IF THE OUTDOOR DINING HAD MORE THAN 16 SEATS AND WAS LOCATED WITHIN 250 FEET OF RESIDENTIAL USES. SO IT HAS TO BE MEET BOTH OF THOSE IT'S NOT AN OR IT'S AN AND AND THEN JUST GENERAL DISCUSSION ABOUT YOU KNOW WHAT COULD BE INCLUDED IN A NOISE MITIGATION THINK ABOUT OUTDOOR SOUND AMPLIFICATION BOTH LOCATIONAL AND HOURS OF WHEN YOU DO THAT CERTAINLY WE'VE HAD SOME OUTDOOR PATIOS THAT HAVE RECEIVED SOME CONCERNS INSTALL BAFFLING OR BASICALLY NOISE BARRIERS IN CERTAIN STRATEGIC LOCATIONS.  SO THERE'S THERE'S CREATIVE THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO TO KIND OF KNOCK DOWN THE NOISE.  AND THE SECOND PIECE OF THAT OF COURSE IS THAT THE NOISE CODE WITHIN THE CITY CODE STILL IS THERE AS THE ULTIMATE BACKUP AND CAN PURSUE ENFORCEMENT ACTION IF NECESSARY AS WELL.  SO WE THINK THIS IS A CREATIVE AND GOOD SOLUTION THAT ROOT OUT SOME OF THE POTENTIAL NUISANCE WHILE ALLOWING THESE OUTDOOR DINING AREAS TO JUST GO THROUGH A PERMITTED USE TYPE PROCESS, GET INTO THE TOPIC OF SITE PLAN REVIEW. SO THIS WAS ANOTHER GOOD DISCUSSION THAT BOTH PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL JUST AS A REMINDER THE PLANNING COMMISSION FAVORED THE APPROACH OF EXPANDING THE PLANNING MANAGER'S APPROVAL AUTHORITY.  CITY COUNCIL I BELIEVE WAS SUPPORTIVE THAT GENERALLY BUT ALSO INSTRUCTED STAFF TO RESEARCH AND LOOK INTO WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO DO A FULL ADMINISTRATIVE SITE PLAN REVIEW AND JUST KEEPING IN MIND, YOU KNOW MANY OF OUR APPLICATIONS COME WITH OTHER ENTITLEMENTS OR ZONING APPROVALS THAT ARE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND SO IN THOSE CASES IT'S KIND OF A MOOT POINT. BUT YOU DO SOMETIMES HAVE JUST A FINAL SAY BUILDING PLANNING APPLICATION FOR, YOU KNOW, A LARGE DEVELOPMENT, LARGE COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT OR A LARGE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT WHATEVER.  THE CASE MAY BE THE SITE IS OWN PROPERTY THEN THEY CAN DO THAT.  AND SO THE QUESTION THERE BECOMES IS WHAT IS THE CITY'S THRESHOLD OF LINE OF WHERE WE SHOULD HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING AND HAVE MORE PUBLIC INFORMATION NOTIFICATION?  ONE OF THE STUMBLING BLOCKS FOR US AS WHEN WE KIND OF EVALUATED THE COUNCIL GUIDANCE WITH RESPECT TO A FULL ADMINISTRATIVE SITE PLAN REVIEW IS THAT THERE'S ALSO DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT NOTICE IS ALSO IMPORTANT AND SO WHAT WE DID IS WE DRAFTED FULLY ADMINISTRATIVE SITE PLAN REVIEW PROCESS BUT WITH NOTICE AFTER GOING THROUGH IT MULTIPLE TIMES AND EXERCISES WITH CALENDARS WHAT WE CONCLUDED IS THAT TO DO A FULL ADMIN SITE PLANNER REVIEW PROCESS BUT WITH A NOTICE EQUIVALENT TO WHAT WE DO FOR OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS IT STILL WOULD BASICALLY RESULT IN A SIX WEEK PROCESS WHICH IS ABOUT EQUIVALENT TO WHAT IT TAKES TO GO THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION AT THIS POINT THERE'S ALSO THE ADDITIONAL COSTS ABOUT PUBLISHING NOTICE WELL YOU WOULDN'T NECESSARILY NEED TO PUBLISH NOTICE IN THE PAPER BUT DOING A MAILED NOTICE INCREASE OF STAFF COSTS AND MAILING COSTS AND OTHER FEES ASSOCIATED WITH IT. SO BASED ON THE KIND OF FINDINGS AT A STAFF LEVEL FROM THIS EXERCISE ULTIMATELY WHAT WE DECIDED TO IN OUR DISCRETION IS PRESENT YOU AN ORDINANCE THAT EXPANDS THE PLANNING MANAGER'S APPROVAL AUTHORITY IN THE WAYS THAT WAS SUPPORTED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF. WE CAN GET INTO THE SPECIFICS IF YOU WANT BUT IT MOVES THE BAR FAR DOWN THE FIELD IN TERMS OF THE SIZE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT CAN BE APPROVED ADMINISTRATIVELY BUT DOES HONOR SOME KIND OF THRESHOLD, IF YOU WILL, WHERE FOR MAYBE FOR LARGER PROJECTS A PUBLIC NOTIFICATION AND HEARING PROCESS WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE.  SO THAT'S THAT'S WHAT'S IN THERE AND IT'S SIMILAR TO ALONG THE PREVIOUS LINES AND IF YOU KNOW IF THIS IS SUCCESSFUL I THINK IF YOU HAVE A GOOD DEVELOPMENT THAT'S LARGER IN SCALE BUT IS STILL UNDER THAT THRESHOLD, I THINK THAT THAT CAN HELP BUILD MORE CONFIDENCE OF A FULLY ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS I GUESS STAFF'S QUESTION ABOUT IT WOULD BE IS THE PIECE ABOUT NOTICE BECAUSE THAT IS DOES TEND TO BE THE ASPECT SLOWS THINGS DOWN AND DOES COST A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY NOT THAT IT DOESN'T ADD VALUE BUT JUST FROM AN EXPEDITING OR STREAMLINING PERSPECTIVE ON THE LAST QUICK IS THIS IS ALSO NEW INFORMATION IS THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING A PROVISION THAT THE PLANNING MANAGER FOR ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVALS HAVE SOME DISCRETION TO REQUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS FOR PROJECTS THAT DON'T CROSS THOSE SQUARE FOOTAGE OR DWELLING BASED NUMBER OF THRESHOLDS.  THE REASON BEING IS THAT THERE'S SOME TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT THAT CAN HAVE LARGE LAND USE OR BE OF HIGH PUBLIC INTEREST THAT AREN'T BUILDINGS.  THINK OF AN OUTDOOR AMPHITHEATER OR A SKI HILL OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES THAT MIGHT HAVE LARGE TRAFFIC IMPACTS BUT WOULDN'T CHECK THE TRADITIONAL BOXES OF LARGE SCALE DEVELOPMENT.  AND SO THAT DISCRETIONARY PIECE WHILE STAFF GETS UNCOMFORTABLE WITH HAVING ANY DISCRETION IS GOOD JUST IN CASE MORE FOR THE UNIQUE PROJECT THAT COULD COME FORWARD THAT WE THINK IS WORTH MORE PUBLIC INPUT.  SO WITH THAT I HAVE RECOMMENDED MOTION FOR YOU PC AND STAFF BOTH RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS AGAIN THE BASELINE IS THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED VERSION. WE DO HAVE THE ALTERNATIVE STAFF SUPPORTS BOTH AND WILL EXECUTE BOTH BOT OF COURSE BUT I'M HAPPY TO TAKE YOUR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. MR. JOHNSON.  COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. YEAH THANK YOU. IT'S GOOD TO BE WITH YOU, MR. JOHNSON.  A COUPLE OF QUICK KIND OF ITEMS JUST TO SET MY UNDERSTANDING FIRST OFF FOR EXAMPLE WITH THE CHANGES THAT MADE WITH THE ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE THE PLANNING COMMISSION AUTHORITY WITH THE PEN LIKE ITEM THAT I HELD TONIGHT POINT NINE HAVE ACTUALLY COME TO US OR WOULD THAT BE AN A GOOD EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN DONE AND DUSTED AS THE AS AS YOU KNOW THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION IF THESE WERE IN PLACE TODAY AMERICANS REMEMBERED. EL SO A COUPLE OF THINGS THE ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT THAT WERE DONE I BELIEVE IN 2020 2021 MAYBE MY ARE MY AGE HERE A LITTLE BIT OR SOMETHING BUT THAT CERTAINLY WOULD HAVE COME TO YOU BECAUSE IT A REZONING I MEAN I MEAN SPECIFICALLY FOR THE PLAT SO THE TYPE THREE PLAT STILL WOULD HAVE COME TO YOU IN FACT ALL PLANNING ACTIONS ARE STILL HAVE COME TO YOU AND SO THIS ORDINANCE DOESN'T TOUCH THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE IN TERMS OF THE APPROVALS THERE THE COUNCIL UNDER STATUTE HAS TO APPROVE PLATS UNDERSTOOD. OKAY THAT'S HELPFUL I REGARDING USE NUMBER 31 THE TAP ROOM COCKTAIL ROOM IT SAYS MAKE PERMITTED BUT KEEP DESIGNATION WHERE APPLICABLE. CAN YOU TELL US WHAT LIMITED DESIGNATION MEANS.  YEAH THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION MAYOR COUNCILOR ALESSANDRA SO LIMITED DESIGNATION MEANS IT IS SUBJECT TO A MAXIMUM PROPORTION OF THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT FLOOR OF 25% AND SO IT'S INTENDED THERE AND MAYBE IT'S COMMON IN SOME OF OUR MORE MIXED USE DISTRICTS OR IN SOME CASES LIKE IN DISTRICTS THAT ARE MORE INTENDED TO BE OFFICE ORIENTED TYPE ZONING.  IT SAYS THAT YOU CAN HAVE THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT BUT IT REALLY SHOULD INTEGRATED AS PART OF A COMPONENT OF A LARGER DEVELOPMENT WHERE CAPPED AT THAT 25% FLOOR AREA NEEDED. OKAY.  I HAVE SOME OTHER COMMENTS THAT I'LL MAKE AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING.  THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNSEL. ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS THANK YOU FOR MAKING THE DISTINCTION. COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO QUESTIONS VERSUS COMMENTS OTHER QUESTIONS.  ALL RIGHT. DON'T GO FAR MR. JOHNSON.  THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND ITEM 4.4 AND I WILL CALL THAT PUBLIC HEARING NOW THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND REGARDING CITY CODE AMENDMENTS, STREAMLINED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE OPTIONS AS DISCUSSED ANYONE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS WISHING TO TO ITEM 4.4 TONIGHT HI ROBERT COHEN HERE BACK AGAIN I JUST WANT TO GIVE MY SUPPORT OF THE 45 AND NOT THE THE 57 IT SEEMS LIKE THE OF THAT OF THE 12 THOSE ARE DEFINITELY SOME THINGS THAT I THINK IT'S FAIR TO STILL WANT TO HAVE SOME A LITTLE BIT OF A LITTLE BIT OF LIKE POLICYMAKING THAT CAN HAPPEN THROUGH THE YOU KNOW, REQUIRING A CONDITIONAL PERMIT AS OPPOSED TO HAVING IT JUST COME STRAIGHT THROUGH ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO LIKE THE FUEL CELLS. I MEAN I USED TO WORK AT A GAS STATION AND THERE WERE MULTIPLE TIMES WHERE THERE WERE, YOU KNOW, A CUSTOMER DIDN'T REALL UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU SPILLED SOME FUEL ON THE GROUND THAT THAT'S A SERIOUS ISSUE.  I HAD ONE INSTANCE WHERE THE IT WAS LIKE A DAY THERE IT WAS LIKE -20 OUTSIDE AND SO THE PERSON DID NOT FOLLOW THE RULE WHERE YOU HAVE TO STAY IN ATTENDANCE AT THE PUMP. THEY'VE GOT IN THEIR CAR TO STAY WARM WHICH MAKES SENSE BUT FUEL WENT LIKE A ALMOST LIKE 80% ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE FUEL DRAIN AND I HAD TO RUSH TO GET THAT CONTAINER TOO. I JUST THINK THAT THAT IS A FAIR THING TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE A LITTLE BIT MORE OVERSIGHT OVER IT IN REGARDS TO THAT USE AND SOME OF THE OTHER ONES FOR.  THANK YOU, MR. COLEMAN.  OH, ANYONE ELSE THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS WISHING TO SPEAK TO IN 4.4 THIS EVENING NO ONE COMING FORWARD IN THE SOLOMONS. MS.. TALLMAN, DO WE HAVE ANYONE ON THE PHONE TONIGHT?  NO ONE ON LINE, MR. MAYOR. NO ONE ON THE LINE. LAST CALL FOR ANYBODY IN THE CHAMBERS, COUNSEL NO ONE COMING FORWARD. NO ONE ON THE LINE TO SPEAK TO AND IN 4.4 I WOULD LOOK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING SOME MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO A SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING IN ITEM 4.4.  NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. MS. MERCER CARTER HEY, MILA.  I'M LOWMAN NELSON. I RIVAS DALLESSANDRO MAYOR BUSSEY MY MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING IT ENDED 4.4 NOW THE TIME FOR COMMENTS COUNCILMEMBER.  DALLESSANDRO I WANT TO KICK OFF ON THIS. SURE APPRECIATE THAT, MR. MAYOR AND THANK YOU. I'M GENERALLY IN AGREEMENT LOOKING AT THE ITEMS THAT ARE RECOMMENDED BY PLANNING COMMISSION TO STAY AS AS SOMETHING OTHER THAN PERMITTED USE. I WOULD BE SUPPORT OF OF I THINK IT'S OPTION ONE WHICH IS THE 45 AS OPPOSED TO THE 57. I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME AND WE CAN ALWAYS EXPAND IT AGAIN IF WE NEED BUT THIS WAY WE'RE KIND OF TAKING A NICE BITE AT THE APPLE AND AND THEN HAVING A CHANCE FOR MR. JOHNSON'S COMMENTS TO TO ASSESS THAT TO WATCH IT OPERATIONALLY ON AND UNRAVEL UNRAVEL NO UNFOLD. THERE WE GO. I WANT TO UNFOLD NOT UNRAVEL IT. LET'S KEEP IT TOGETHER. LORNA LITERALLY. BUT I THINK THAT THAT MAKES SENSE AND LIKE I SAID, WE CAN ALWAYS COME BACK AND WE CAN WE CAN LOOK AT THIS IN ANOTHER AND ANOTHER YOU KNOW, YEAR TWO OR HOWEVER MANY THAT IS. I DID HAVE ONE OTHER COMMENT THAT WE CAN AGAIN TAKE OFF LINE BUT THE PLANNING COMMISSION CURRENTLY DOESN'T HAVE ANY MEMBERSHIP FROM COUNCIL ON IT AND WITH THIS MASSIVE INCREASE THEIR AUTHORITY DOES, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO THINK ABOUT? I DON'T THAT'S NOT A QUESTION TO ANSWER TONIGHT BUT IT'S JUST A YOU KNOW, OTHER PLACES WHERE WE'VE AUTHORIZED THIS KIND OF AUTHORITY LIKE PORT AND PORT AUTHORITY AND HRA, WE DO HAVE COUNCIL REPRESENTATION . I THROW THAT OUT THERE IS SOMETHING WE MAY NOT BE ALLOWED TO I DON'T KNOW IF OUR STATUTES ALLOW FOR IT OR NOT SO JUST SOMETHING THAT I WANTED TO THROW OUT THERE. WE DON'T HAVE TO DISCUSS RIGHT NOW. BUT IT WAS SOMETHING THAT CAME UP FOR ME WHEN WHEN WE DECIDED IF WE DECIDE TO DO THIS WHICH I'M GENERALLY SUPPORTIVE OF IT JUST IT SEEMED TO BE HANDING OFF A LOT OF ADMINISTRATIVE AUTHORITY TO A GROUP WHERE COUNCIL DOESN'T REPRESENTATION AND SO THAT'S A GOOD POINT. COUNCILMEMBER MR. AUBREY THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK IT A LITTLE BIT MORE. INITIAL REACTION IS THAT THIS BODY SERVES TO RESPOND TO APPEALS OF ACTIONS TAKEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND SO THAT PROBABLY WOULD SUGGEST IT'S NOT A GOOD IDEA TO MIX THE TWO BODIES. YEAH, JUST AN OPEN QUESTION ABOUT MAYBE THE PROCESS OF OF APPOINTMENT THEN OR SOMETHING WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE. I DON'T KNOW WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT LATER BUT WE MIGHT WANT TO THINK ABOUT HOW WE CONSTRUCT THE PLANNING COMMISSION GIVEN THE ADDITIONAL AUTHORITY WE'RE OFFERING AND THAT'S THANKS COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN THANK YOU MARIN I'LL PICK UP RIGHT WHERE MY COLLEAGUE LEFT OFF.  YEAH. WITH THAT WHOLE PLANNING COMMISSION I MENTIONED A COUPLE OF COMMENTS BEFORE IN THE LAST MEETING AND I THINK A STAFF AND A MAYOR IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THOSE TOO TO ADD TO WHAT'S BEING SAID THERE. BUT I DEFINITELY DO THINK THAT NEED TO KIND OF LOOK AT THAT BODY ITSELF AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT WAYS WHICH TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE UP TO THE TASK.  I WOULD JUST SAY THAT SO THEN JUST A COUPLE OTHER ITEMS.  SO THEN FROM THAT I JUST HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE NOTIFICATION STANDARDS OF IT.  ONE OF MY QUESTIONS WAS I KNOW THAT WHEN YOU LOOKED AT THOSE NOTIFICATION PORTIONS OF IT THAT AND I'M ASSUMING THAT WE TRIED TO KEEP THE SAME STANDARDS OF NOTIFICATION WITH YOU RIGHT NOW BY MAIL WAS THERE ANY ISSUE WITH TRYING TO DO THE NO NOTIFICATIONS IN ANOTHER WAY I KNOW THAT MAIL IS THE ONE IS GOING TO BE PROBABLY MORE NOTICEABLE OR THAT PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO LOOK AT BUT WOULD THAT DECREASE YOU KNOW THAT THAT TIME SPAN THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT I KNOW I UNDERSTAND THE SIX SIX WEEKS WITH THAT IS THERE OTHER WAYS OF DOING NOTIFICATION THAT WE COULD KIND OF DO A YEAH.  MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY METHODS RIGHT NOW THAT WOULD PASS THE LEGAL FOR NOTIFICATION UNDER MINNESOTA LAW WE WERE REQUIRED TO FIT THAT THAT LEGAL NOTIFICATION EVEN THOUGH WE'RE WE'RE TAKING THAT OUT. YEAH COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN WE WOULD NOT IF YOU'RE NOT HAVING A PUBLIC HEARING AND WE HAVE A SECTION OF OUR CITY CODE THAT DICTATES WHERE WE ESTABLISH NOTICE AND WHERE WE DON'T. AND UNDER STATUTES THERE ARE CERTAIN APPLICATIONS THAT REQUIRE NOTICE AND SOME THAT ARE MORE DISCRETIONARY. AND BLOOMINGTON DOES UTILIZE A LOT OF THAT DISCRETION TO REQUIRE NOTICE FOR A LOT OF OUR DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS ABOVE AND BEYOND STATE LAW. BUT A LOT OF CITIES DO THAT'S NOT OUT OF THE NORM.  WE COULD HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S LESS THAN A PUBLIC HEARING.  RIGHT. I MEAN I THINK I'VE SEEN BEFORE WHERE THE MAYOR HAS HAD PUBLIC COMMENT SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO AND I'M NOT MAKING ANY SUGGESTIONS IN TERMS OF CHANGES TONIGHT BUT I THINK THAT MAY BE A WAY TO KIND GET DOWN THAT PATHWAY OF AND MAYBE MY COLLEAGUES DON'T AGREE BUT MAYBE THAT'S KNOW IT'S KIND OF A NICE COMPROMISE IN BETWEEN SOMEWHERE BETWEEN HAVING THIS FORMAL NOTIFICATION THAT YOU DRAGS THE HAS A SIX WEEK AND I UNDERSTAND THAT I'D CERTAINLY SUPPORT THAT I THAT I THAT'S SOMETHING I'D LIKE TO SEE ESPECIALLY WHEN WE HANDLE THINGS OUT THERE. I KNOW THAT'S I'M ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A DIFFERENT WAY TO KIND ADVOCATE FOR A COMPROMISE. THE LAST THING I'LL SAY YOU KNOW FOR MYSELF YOU KNOW, I CAN UNDERSTAND IF IS THERE AND THEY WANT TO KIND OF HOLD BACK ON YOU KNOW ON THESE 12 ITEMS HERE AND CERTAINLY I COULD PULL OTHER ITEMS OFF THE LIST AND SLIDE OF IN HERE BUT I THINK I'M A POINT WHERE I'M READY TO DO THE 57 I MEAN I MEAN I SAID THAT THE LAST TIME SO IT'S PROBABLY NO SURPRISE IN THE RATIONALE IS THAT I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE OUR COUNCIL REALLY TRY TO GET OURSELVES IN THE POSITION OF REALLY LOOKING AT POLICY AND TRYING TO DRIVE THAT POLICY FORWARD AND KIND OF LETTING SOME OF THESE MORE ADMINISTRATIVE THINGS KIND OF LET PLANNING COMMISSION KIND OF DEAL WITH THOSE THINGS AND LET STAFF KIND OF DO A FULL SWING SO WE CAN REALLY KIND OF GET AHEAD REALLY IT'S YOU KNOW, I LOOK BACK, YOU KNOW, AT OUR LAST MEETING AND WE LOOK AT THE PENDING AMERICAN PROJECT AND I THINK ABOUT WOULDN'T IT BE NICE IF WE WOULD HAVE HAD THE TIME,  YOU KNOW, AS THIS COUNCIL BY KIND OF DOWNGRADING SOME OF THESE ITEMS HERE TO HAVE THAT SECOND LOOK AT THAT PENDING AMERICAN OF YOU KNOW, AS WE HAVE YOU KNOW ESSENTIALLY A NEW COUNCIL WITH DIFFERENT WAYS OF LOOKING AT THOSE THINGS AND SO I THINK IF IT'S TRADING IN SOME OF THOSE ITEMS SOME OF THESE 12 ITEMS TO KIND OF LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE OTHER POLICY PROPOSALS, THAT'S SORT OF MY RATIONALE AS TO WHY I WANT TO DO THE 57 I CAN UNDERSTAND WHERE WE WANT TO HAVE SOME OVERSIGHT OVER THESE 12 FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE US GET RID OF THESE 12 ITEMS AND KIND OF GET TO A RESOLUTION AS SOON AS POSSIBLE SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO KIND OF BE OUT FRONT AND BE PROACTIVE WHEN IT TO OUR OVERALL NEIGHBORHOOD POLICIES AND ANY OTHER POLICIES WHEN IT COMES TO PLANNING. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBER COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS, I THINK COUNCILMEMBER, CAN YOU TURN YOUR MIKE ON PLEASE? I JUST CAN UNDERSTAND HOW AS COUNCIL WE'RE GOING TO GIVE UP THE OVERSIGHT. I JUST CAN'T COMPREHEND IT.  I MEAN THE MORE I THINK ABOUT IT IT IS A GOOD IDEA TO EXPEDITE BUSINESSES AND STUFF . HOWEVER GIVING UP THE OVERSIGHT I JUST CAN'T REALLY GET IT INTO MY MY LITTLE TO UNDERSTAND IT. I THINK FOR CITY STAFF DO FOR THE MOST PART THEY DO IT ON THEIR OWN IT COMES TO US AND WE VOTE YES OR NO ON IT WITHOUT HAVING ANY OVERSIGHT AS FAR AS THAT'S BEEN MY EXPERIENCE SINCE I STARTED JANUARY WE JUST EVERYTHING COMES TO US AND MAYBE I THINK THAT WAY BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND AND COMPREHEND THE THE BIG PICTURE.  BUT THE WAY I FEEL ABOUT THIS I JUST I CAN'T SUPPORT IT. THERE IS NO WAY THAT YOU KNOW THE LITTLE OVERSIGHT THAT EXISTS AT THIS POINT I'M JUST GOING TO BE WILLINGLY VOTE YES IT I JUST CAN'T SUPPORT IT.  COUNCILMEMBER NELSON YEAH. THANK YOU MAYOR AND I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS OF MY COLLEAGUE COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS. I AM OFTEN HESITANT TO GIVE UP DISCRETION AS WELL. I WILL SAY TWO THINGS I DON'T THINK THIS WILL CHANGE YOUR MIND AND THEY'RE NOT INTENDED TO.  OH THERE IS ALWAYS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ANY TO APPEAL THESE TO THE COUNCIL SO THAT THAT PATHWAY STILL EXISTS. IF THERE IS CONCERN WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, IF YOU HEAR FROM CONSTITUENTS WITH CONCERNS AND SO I GUESS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS ON THAT THE APPEAL PROCESS THAT'S PRETTY EASY, RIGHT? I MEAN YOU DON'T NEED TO GET AN ATTORNEY. YOU DON'T NEED TO HAVE SPECIALIZED KNOWLEDGE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. USUALLY HAD LIKE TO APPEAL THIS. OKAY SO WE IF THERE IS CONTROVERSY WE STILL MAINTAIN ON THOSE IMPORTANT ISSUES IN THE COMMUNITY TO TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE THE OTHER PART OF THIS AND I DO LOOK AT IT FROM A BUSINESS THE MORE CERTAINTY WE CAN PROVIDE BUSINESSES THE BETTER BUSINESS COMMUNITY WE WILL HAVE THEY SEE THE RULES THEY KNOW WHAT THOSE RULES THAT'S HOW IT'S GOING TO BE APPLIED THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE OH YOU KNOW WE DECIDED DON'T ACTUALLY WANT TO DO WHAT OUR RULES SAY WE'RE GOING TO DO.  YOU KNOW THAT CERTAINTY IS ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL FOR OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND THIS PROVIDES MORE CERTAINTY TO THEM AGAIN.  I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND I ACTUALLY LOOK IT SLIGHTLY DIFFERENTLY. ARE WE ASKING TOO MUCH OF OUR PLANNING COMMISSION?  YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THEY ARE A VOLUNTEER GROUP THAT THERE WE WERE THE ONES THAT WENT OUT THERE AND GOT ELECTED AND SAID HEY WE WANT TO STOP AND DO THIS. THEY APPLIED TO THE SO THEY STEPPED UP TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY WELL NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. BUT THERE'S SORT OF A DIFFERENT LEVEL OF AND ARE WE ASKING POTENTIALLY TOO MUCH OF THEM?  THE THING THAT CAUTIONS ME ON THAT IS EVERYTHING IS GOING TO RUN THROUGH THEM ANYWAYS.  IT JUST ENDS THERE WITH THEIR DECISION UNLESS APPEALED MOST CASES OR IF IT'S AN ADMINISTRATIVE ONE I, I THINK WE'VE NARROWED THAT DOWN TO THE ONES THAT JUST APPLY THE RULES YOU KNOW AS SOMEONE WHO PULLS BUILDING PERMITS I CERTAINLY WOULD NOT WANT TO BEFORE THIS BODY TO GET A BUILDING PERMIT FOR A REMODELING ROGER SO YOU KNOW IT WOULD NOT BE A GOOD USE OF ANYBODY'S TIME SO I'M COMFORTABLE WITH WHERE WE ARE. I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THE 45 WITH POTENTIALLY LOOKING AT 57 LATER. I WOULD SAY THAT THAT 12 IS NOT REALLY 12. THERE'S LIKE WHEN I READ THEM THERE'S FIVE YOU KNOW AND THEN THERE'S NUANCES OF ON LIKE THERE'S YOU KNOW SERVICE STATION AT THE GAS STATION AND A FUEL STATION AND YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DIFFERENCES ARE BUT YOU KNOW, WE TOOK THOSE THINGS OUT AND SAID HEY, WE NEED TO HAVE MORE. THAT'S A PLANNING.  DID I SUPPORT THAT? I DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING FROM STAFF THAT THEY REALLY, REALLY STRONGLY THOUGHT WE SHOULD DO MORE THAN THAT AT THIS POINT I THINK IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY IT WAS WE SUPPORT BOTH OF THESE SO LET'S LET'S GO AS FAR AS WE WANT TO RIGHT NOW AND THEN, YOU KNOW, TAKE A LOOK AT IT AGAIN AND 15 YEARS AND SO IT WON'T DO THEM DWANE IS STILL TO HEAR IT TO OTHERS COUNCILMEMBER BAY MAYOR YEAH I SAY I AGREE WITH WHAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS SENT FORWARD TO US AS.  WELL WITH THE 45 I THINK THAT'S THEIR INDICATION THAT THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE COMFORTABLE WITH AND I SUPPORT THAT AND I'VE SAID THIS SINCE I STARTED COUNCIL'S WE WE DON'T SOMETIMES OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR COMMISSIONS NOT JUST PLANNING ISN'T AS STRONG AS I WOULD LIKE. I THINK THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO STRENGTHEN THOSE RELATIONSHIPS BECAUSE WE KNOW HERE IN COUNCIL WE ONLY HAVE SO MANY HOURS IN THE DAY WE ALL HAVE OTHER JOBS IF WE WERE ALL 100% HERE ALL THE TIME IT MAKES SENSE FOR US NOT TO GIVE UP THIS AND TO BE INVOLVED THE TIME BUT WE'RE NOT AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE COMMISSIONS AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE ASKED AND TASKED THEM TO DO IS DO THE HARD WORK SO THAT WE CAN MAKE THE DECISION UP HERE AND STREAMLINE IT, MAKE IT EASY. SO I THINK THAT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO TO STRENGTHEN OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION KNOWING THEY'RE TASKED WITH DOING THE WORK THAT WE'VE ASSIGNED TO THEM AND MAKING EASIER FOR OUR BUSINESSES TO COME TO CITY HALL AND SAY I WANT TO DO THIS, HOW CAN I STREAMLINE THIS COURT MIGHT CUT MY DOWN AND OPEN A BUSINESS IN YOUR CITY SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO IT. AND THEN I ALSO AGREE WITH OUR COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN LIKE OUR FOCUS SHOULD BE ON POLICY AND I THINK THIS HELPS MOVE ONE STEP FORWARD TO POLICY TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE ARE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION WITHOUT BEING BOGGED DOWN BY ALL THE TO DAY THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO DO ALL THE TIME. WE'LL LISTEN. COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS RIGHT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR TO TO ALL OF YOU I KNOW YOU ALL WORK HARD IT'S NOTHING AGAINST YOU IN ANY WHATSOEVER . I JUST FEEL THAT IS YOU KNOW,  WHEN I THINK BACK ON HOW I RAN FOR THIS POSITION AND I GOT ELECTED I FEARED THAT A LOT OF THE REASONS THAT I RUN WAS BECAUSE I WAS SERIOUS ON THIS PARTY YOU KNOW IF I MAY CALL IT THAT I MIGHT BE OVER, YOU KNOW, REACTING ON THIS BUT HOWEVER IF I REALLY THINK ABOUT IT DOES THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I'M SITTING HERE RIGHT NOW IS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, OVERSIGHT AS FAR AS IT PROBABLY DOES IN A GOOD MAJORITY I WOULDN'T SAY MY BUT A GOOD PORTION OF THE PUBLIC OUT THERE FIELDS THAT THEY'RE NOT AS RESIDENTS ARE NOT GETTING ANY SAY IN ON THIS AND I THINK IF WE REALLY THINK ABOUT IT AND WE LOOK INTO THIS WE GOT ELECTED FOR A REASON TO REPRESENT THE PEOPLE OUT THERE AND THEY GAVE US THE PRIVILEGE TO BE SITTING HERE IN ORDER FOR US TO BE SOMEWHAT A REPRESENTATION OF THEMSELVES AND.  YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S THE REASON THAT I AM GIVING REALLY NOT SUPPORTING THIS AT ALL BECAUSE YOU KNOW, IF I WHEN I DECIDED TO RUN WAS BECAUSE I WANTED TO SEE MORE TRANSPARENCY FROM THE CITY AND THE WAY THAT GO RIGHT NOW WHEN YOU GUYS DO ALL THE WORK AND AND AGAIN I'M PUTTING YOUR WORK AND EFFORTS DOWN IN ANY WAY BECAUSE I KNOW IT TAKES A LOT OF EFFORT TO PUT THESE THINGS TOGETHER RIGHT BUT AT THE SAME TIME PEOPLE OUT THERE DON'T HAVE CLUE OF WHAT'S GOING ON. THEY DON'T LEARN ANYTHING UNTIL THESE FOUR SENATE IN THIS BODY AND THE AGENDA GOES OUT AND THEN PEOPLE HAVE ACCESS IT WHICH IS WHEN THE DECISIONS ARE BEING MADE AND THE REASON WHY I FEEL THAT I YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE GIVING THESE THESE UP IS IT'S JUST NOT A GOOD THING I AND IT'S NOT A REPRESENTATION OF YOUR COMMISSION OR ANYTHING. IT'S JUST JUST THE WAY I FEEL ABOUT IT THE COUNCIL MEMBER.  SO FROM FROM MY PERSPECTIVE COUNCIL I'M I'M A FOR A LOT OF THE REASONS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION OF THE 45 AND JUST TO BE CLEAR THIS WHAT YOU SEE IN FRONT OF YOU HERE IS THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION.  SO YEP THIS IS THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION.  I DO THINK I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT THEY'VE PUT  IN ON THIS. I APPRECIATE WE'VE SPENT A LONG TIME ON THIS. THEY SPENT TWICE AS MUCH TIME AS WE DID ON THIS TALKING THROUGH THESE THINGS. SO I APPRECIATE THE INPUT THAT THEY BROUGHT FORWARD AND I APPRECIATE THE 45 THAT THEY RECOMMENDED THAT WE WE MADE THE CHANGE ON I DO THINK THAT THIS REALLY DOES TOWARD WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH OF REDUCING TIME COST COMPLEXITY AND AS COUNCILMEMBER NELSON SAID TO INCREASE SECURITY SO I KNOW THAT AS PEOPLE WORK TO PUT A BUSINESS PLAN TOGETHER AND TRY TO WORK THROUGH THE MACHINATIONS OF CITY GOVERNMENT, THEY KNOW WHAT EXPECT AND I THINK THERE'S A LOT TO THAT AND SO I APPRECIATE THAT AS WELL AND AND I ALSO WILL SAY JUST STRONG LEADERS DELEGATE IT'S AS SIMPLE AS THAT AND A GOOD LEADERSHIP BY THE DELEGATES WHERE APPROPRIATE AND WHERE NECESSARY AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE SO COUNCIL IF THERE ARE N ANY OTHER QUESTIONS I WOULD LOOK FOR A MOTION. COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO ABSOLUTELY.  YOU AND IN THE SPIRIT OF THAT MR. MAYOR I AM JUST OFF TOP OF MY HEAD MORE THAN 80% OF THE TIME WE TAKE RECOMMENDATION OF PLANNING COMMISSION ANYWAY SO ALL THAT WE HAVE DONE IS DELAYED YES. BY 45 DAYS WHICH IS JUST STUPID, RIGHT. I THINK THAT'S WHAT ALL KIND OF AGREED TO SO COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO, THANK YOU. I MOVE TO ADOPT AN ORDINANCE TO STREAMLINE LAND USE DEVELOPMENT APPROVALS BY EXPANDING ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVALS OF FINAL SITE AND BUILDING PLANS FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLANS REMOVING MOVING THE FINAL SITE AND BUILDING PLAN APPROVAL REQUIREMENT FOR ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS IN TWO FAMILY DWELLINGS DESIGNATING SOME USES THAT ARE CURRENTLY CONDITIONAL AS PERMITTED GRANTING THE PLANNING COMMISSION AUTHORITY TO APPROVE ALL CONDITIONAL USE AN INTERIM USE PERMITS FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLANS WITHOUT CITY CODE FLEXIBILITY TENT PERMIT EXTENSIONS, CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS AND VARIANCES SUBJECT TO APPEAL AND ESTABLISHING A REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION PROCESS IN THE CITY CODE THEREBY AMENDING CHAPTERS 215 1921 AND APPENDIX A OF THE CITY CODE SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER TO ADOPT THE ORDINANCE TO STREAMLINE LAND USE DEVELOPMENT APPROVALS WITHIN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AS STATED NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS MS. MERCER CARTER I MUA I LOWMAN NELSON RIVAS MELISSA DREW I SORRY AND MAYOR BUSSEY I MOTION CARRIES SIX ONE WITH COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS IN OPPOSITION COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO SUMMARY PUBLICATION PLEASE OF COURSE I MOVE TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION DIRECTING SUMMARY PUBLICATION OF THE ORDINANCE TO STREAMLINE LAND USE DEVELOPMENT APPROVALS BY EXPANDING THE ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVALS OF FINAL AND BUILDING PLANS FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLANS, REMOVING THE FINAL SITE AND BUILDING PLANS REQUIREMENT FOR ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS AND TWO FAMILY DWELLINGS DESIGNATING USES THAT ARE CURRENTLY CONDITIONAL AS PERMITTED GRANTING THE PLANNING AUTHORITY TO APPROVE ALL CONDITIONAL USE AND INTERIM USE PERMITS FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLANS CITY CODE FLEXIBILITY TENT PERMIT EXTENSIONS CERTIFICATES OF AND VARIANCES SUBJECT TO APPEAL AND ESTABLISHING REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION PROCESS IN THE CITY CODE THEREBY THEREBY AMENDING 215 1921 AND APPENDIX A OF THE CITY SAYING MOST OF MY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO AND MY COUNCILMEMBER FOR SUMMARY PUBLICATION ON ITEM 4.4 THIS EVENING NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS MS. MERCER CARTER I MUAH I LOWMAN NELSON RIVAS D'ALESSANDRO MAYOR BUSSEY I MOTION SIX ONE WITH COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS VOTING IN OPPOSITION THANK YOU MR. JOHNSON AND THANK EXTEND OUR THANKS TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THEIR WORK ON THIS AS I SAID I KNOW FOR THE WORK THAT WE PUT IN THEY PUT IN TWICE AS MUCH IF NOT MORE AND I APPRECIATE THE RECOMMENDATIONS THEY BROUGHT BACK TO US SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR. REMEMBER COUNCIL WE'RE GOING MOVE ON ITEM FIVE OUR ORGANIZATION OF BUSINESS AND TAKING A LOOK AT THE CLOCK ON THE WALL WE ARE PUSHING 9:00 HERE AND WE'VE GOT THREE PRETTY MEATY DISCUSSIONS LEFT. SO I WILL ASK THE COUNCIL AND WILL ASK STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT OUR POINTS ARE FOCUSED AND OUR DISCUSSION IS RELEVANT AS WE MOVE FORWARD TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET OUT OF HERE BEFORE TOMORROW. ITEM 5.1 IS A DISCUSSION ON THE SEWER AVAILABILITY CHARGE . MR. LUNDY OUR SPECIAL PROJECTS AND INITIATIVES GUY AND GLEN MARK A CHARTER PLANNING MANAGER ARE GOING TO BRING THIS FOR US ALL RIGHT.  GOOD EVENING. EVENING MR. MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL I'M NOT HERE TO TALK ABOUT A BUSINESS PITCH COMPETITION THIS TIME, SHAWN, ON THESE SPECIAL PROJECTS AND INITIATIVES I'M HERE WITH GLEN MARK , GUARD PLANNING MANAGER WITH THE CITY OF THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. WE'RE HERE TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE SANITARY SEWER CAPACITY NEED FOR FUNDING AND A RECOMMENDATION.  OKAY. SO AS A QUICK OVERVIEW WE WILL GO OVER WHAT OUR PROCESS LINE AND TIMELINE HAS BEEN UP TO THIS POINT.  WE WILL DO A RECAP OF THE CAPACITY ISSUE OPTIONS CONSIDERED IN COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND THEN WE'LL MOVE TOWARDS OUR STAFF RECOMMENDATION.  SO FIRST OFF IT WAS EARLY 2024 WHEN WE DEVELOPED A CROSS-DEPARTMENTAL SEWER FUNDING WORKING GROUP TO THINK ABOUT THIS ISSUE OF NEEDED FUNDING FOR SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE.  THIS INCORPORATED STAFF FROM DEPARTMENT COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT WORKS, FINANCE AND LEGAL IN MAY ON MAY 20TH WE CAME TO YOU WITHIN ANALYSIS OF OUR SANITARY SEWER CAPACITY AS IT STANDS NOW IN THE CITY AND POTENTIAL FUNDING OPTIONS TO CONSIDER.  WE SPENT THE SUMMER ENGAGING WITH THE COMMUNITY AND OTHER KEY STAKEHOLDERS TO RECEIVE THEIR FEEDBACK ON THIS ISSUE AND WE ARE HERE TONIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU WITH A RECOMMENDATION AND AND AND THAT'S BASED ON LANDSCAPE AND FEEDBACK FROM THESE KEY STAKEHOLDERS.  SO JUST BRIEFLY THIS WAS PRESENTED TO YOU ON MAY 20TH BUT AS A RECAP OF THE CAPACITY ISSUE, PROJECTED LAND USE CHANGES ARE EXPECTED TO GENERATE SIGNIFICANT ENTLY MORE WASTEWATER FLOW THAN CURRENT CAPACITY CAN HANDLE AND THIS IS RESULTING IN SIGNIFICANT INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS NEEDS.  THE MAP THAT IS PULLED UP THE SCREEN IS A C A C IP SEWER PROJECT'S MAP HIGHLIGHTING THE VARIOUS CHOKE POINTS OR FRICTION AREAS IN OUR SEWER SYSTEM AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW AND AS A RESULT BETWEEN NOW AND 2040 AN ESTIMATED 54 MILLION POINT NOT 54.9 MILLION WILL BE NEEDED TO MEET THESE CAPACITY DEMANDS.  SO BRIEFLY THIS WAS ALSO PRESENTED ON ON MAY 20TH BUT THE OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE LOOKED AT INCLUDE THE IMPACT OF NO ACTION OF OF CHOOSING NOTHING RIGHT NOW OUR FUNDING THROUGH THE CITY SEWER AVAILABILITY CHARGE ALSO KNOWN AS A SACK FEE ENTIRELY THROUGH THAT FUNDING ENTIRELY THROUGH AN INCREASINGLY TILTED FEES. WE LOOKED AT ALTERNATE SOURCES AND THEN SOME SORT OF COMBINATION OF OF THE FOR WELL NOT THE FIRST ONE SO THE THREE ABOVE THAT AND JUST BRIEFLY TO GO OVER THE RESULTS OF OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT CONDUCTED IN COORDINATION WITH CODE . FIRST OFF WE CONDUCTED OUTREACH TO RESIDENTS.  THIS WAS PRIMARILY DONE THROUGH A LET'S TALK BLOOMINGTON ONE WEB PAGE. THE WEB PAGE CONTAINED ALL OF THE STAFF WORKING GROUPS DOCUMENTS RESEARCH AS IT RELATED TO THE FUNDING ISSUE AND PORTLAND RESIDENTS THAT THEY WANTED MORE INFORMATION TO ADDITIONAL.  IT ALSO HAD A SURVEY WHERE IT POSED A QUESTION WHICH DO YOU THINK IS THE BEST WAY THE CITY SHOULD FUND IMPROVEMENTS THE SANITARY SEWER SYSTEM. WE RECEIVED 60 RESPONSES. 48 WERE RESIDENTS. 12 WERE DEVELOPERS. BY FAR AND AWAY THE TOP LINE TAKEAWAY WAS NEW DEVELOPMENT SHOULD PAY ITS OWN WAY FOR ADDITIONAL SEWER NEEDS.  YOU CAN SEE A BREAKDOWN THAT'S DISAGGREGATED SOME SOME EXTENT. THERE'S MORE INFORMATION WE CAN PROVIDE UPON REQUEST IF NEED BE. WE ALSO CONDUCTED DEVELOPER.  THERE WERE TWO SESSIONS HELD IN AUGUST WITH A TOTAL OF 13 PARTICIPANTS. THE TOP TAKEAWAY IS THAT DEVELOPERS ON BOARD WITH THE NEED TO REDEVELOP THE SANITARY SEWER SYSTEM. THEY UNDERSTAND NEED FOR THAT AS IT UNLOCKS DEVELOPMENT. THEY'RE NOT SURPRISED A CITY STOCK FEE IS BEING CONSIDERED AND THEY WANT US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ADDRESSING THIS ISSUE.  I ALSO WANTED TO MAKE SURE TO TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT RACIAL EQUITY IMPACT ASSESSMENT. WE DID THIS AS ONE ASSESSMENT BUT IN TWO PHASES. THE FIRST ONE WAS DONE ALMOST EXACTLY A YEAR AGO. THERE WAS NO POLICY TO CONSIDER SO IT WAS VERY TOP LINE BUT IT WANTED TO US FRAME THE ISSUE AS WE GOT THIS GROUP TOGETHER TO START THINKING ABOUT IT. ONCE A POLICY RECOMMENDATION WAS BEING CONSIDERED WE REEVALUATED IT AND CONDUCTED ANOTHER.  HIGH LEVEL TAKEAWAYS ARE IN TERMS OF EQUITY AND ENVIRONMENT IMPACTS. IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT MAINTAINING THE STATUS QUO COULD LEAD TO IMPACTS DOWNSTREAM AS OPPORTUNITIES TO BUILD MORE HOUSING PARTICULARLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING THROUGH THE HRA WOULD BE LIMITED IN HOUSING WOULD EITHER BE BUILT IN AREAS OF THE CITY THAT DO NOT HAVE GOOD ACCESS TRANSIT OR WOULD BE SPRAWLING LOCATIONS OR THEY WOULD BE BUILT IN OTHER COMMUNITY COMMUNITIES. AGAIN SO THE AREA AREA RECOMMENDED THAT WE ENSURE FEES DO NOT AN UNDUE BURDEN ON RESIDENTS AND THAT WE MITIGATE THE HARM TO RESIDENTS WHO ARE AT RISK OF DISPLACEMENT.  THIS REIT OR EIA IS AVAILABLE UPON REQUEST AS WELL. AND THEN FINALLY I WILL HANDS OVER TO GWEN TO TALK THROUGH OUR STAFF RECOMMENDATION.  AS MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. GOOD EVENING. IN TERMS OF OUR STAFF RECOMMENDATION WE'RE RECOMMENDING MOVING FORWARD QUICKLY ON TWO KEY SANITARY SEWER PROJECTS.  THESE ARE THE NORTH CENTRAL AND SOUTH CENTRAL PROJECTS.  TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THEM IN TERMS OF FUNDING THESE PROJECTS AND FUTURE PROJECTS THAT. WE'RE RECOMMENDING TWO FUNDING SOURCES FIRST OF ALL, FEES ON NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD BE A CITY SAC FEE AND SECONDLY INCREASED SANITARY SEWER USER RATES. I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT EACH THOSE AND CERTAINLY WHAT WE ALSO WANT TO DO IS CONTINUE TO AGGRESSIVELY PURSUE OUTSIDE FUNDING SOURCES SUCH AS STATE AND FEDERAL GRANTS SO ONE OF THE FUNDING SOURCES RECOMMENDED AS A CITY TAXI OR SERVICE CHARGE WE'RE RECOMMENDING A RATE OF $2,030 PER SAC UNIT.  SAC UNIT IS THE EQUIVALENT OF ONE THE AMOUNT OF SEWER THAT ONE SINGLE FAMILY HOME GENERATES. I WOULD NOTE THAT CITY SAC FEES ARE VERY COMMON IN THE METRO AREA AND IN MINNESOTA A LOT OF OUR NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES HAVE THESE EMPLOYEES. DIANNA BURNSVILLE SAVAGE BEING EXAMPLES OF THAT IN TERMS OF HOW WE CAN GET TO $2,030. I WANT TO EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE BIT. SO WE START WITH ALL OF THE PROJECTS THAT YOU SAW ON THAT SLIDE EARLIER AND CALCULATE THE COST OF ALL THOSE PROJECTS AND THEN LOOKING AT THAT COST WE DETERMINE PROJECT BY PROJECT WHAT PERCENTAGE OF INDIVIDUAL PROJECT IS AS IT WERE IN WHOLE.  IN OTHER WORDS THAT CONTRIBUTES TO THE THINGS THAT RATEPAYERS WOULD NEED TO COVER EVEN IF THE CAPACITY NEVER CHANGED. SO WE GET THAT FOR EVERY PROJECT AND THEN IF WE BLEND ALL OF THOSE RATES TOGETHER WE COME TO 39% IS THE BLENDED RATE THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED ASSET RENEWAL AND THEN THE REMAINDER THE THEORY IS WOULD GO TO DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD BE DEVELOPMENTS RESPONSIBILITY OVER THE LONGER TERM TO COVER . SO DIVIDE THAT AMOUNT THE 61% BY THE AMOUNT OF SAC UNITS THAT WE'RE FORECASTING TO BE GENERATED OVER THE NEXT 15 YEARS. AND THAT GETS YOU BACK TO $2,030 PER UNIT IN TERMS OF UTILITY FEE WHICH WOULD BE THE OTHER FUNDING SOURCE, I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT WE ARE USING A MORE CONSERVATIVE SHORT TERM ASSUMPTION HERE GIVEN THE POTENTIAL THAT WE MAY SEE SLOWER DEVELOPMENT YEARS EARLY IN THE FUNDING PROCESS.  WE'VE HAD SOME VERY BUSY YEARS RECENTLY AND WE'RE COGNIZANT THAT THAT COULD SLOW DOWN AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF WE BOND FOR A PROJECT THAT WE'RE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, MEET OUR OBLIGATIONS TO PAY THE BOND. SO LOOKING BACK FIVE YEARS OUR AVERAGE SAC PRODUCTION HAS BEEN 672 SAC UNITS PER YEAR TO MINIMIZE THE REVENUE RISK THAT I TALKED ABOUT.  WE'RE USING A MUCH MORE CONSERVATIVE ASSUMPTION. SO 296 UNITS PER YEAR THAT'S $600,000 IN FEES POTENTIALLY GENERATED.  AND THEN THE GRAPH THAT YOU SEE SHOWS WHAT THE RATE INCREASES WOULD BE WITHOUT ANY CAPACITY EXPANSION AT ALL.  THAT'S THE BLUE LINE. THAT'S JUST ASSET PRESERVATION . AND THEN THE RED LINE IS IF WE HAVE CONTINUOUS ONGOING PERIOD OF SLOWER DEVELOPMENT, WHAT WOULD THE MAXIMUM RATE INCREASES BE NOW IF SAC REVENUE IS GREATER, IF WE DON'T HAVE ONGOING SLOW DEVELOPMENT THEN THE FUTURE UTILITY RATE INCREASES CAN BE LOWER BECAUSE YOU'RE DOING EVERY YEAR.  SO IN THAT CASE THE TRUE RATE INCREASES WOULD BE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN THE RED LINE AND THE BLUE LINE THAT YOU SEE ABOVE IN THE SHORT TERM THAT COST SHARE GIVEN THE CONSERVATIVE APPROACH WOULD BE CLOSER TO 60% UTILITY FEE, 40% SEXY BUT THAT'S SHORT TERM NOT A LONG TERM SITUATION.  SO IF WE THINK UTILITY RATES THIS GRAPH COMPARES BLOOMINGTON OTHER CITIES IN TERMS OF UTILITY RATES IN 2024. YOU CAN SEE BLOOMINGTON HAS UTILITY RATES THAN A LOT OF OUR PEER COMMUNITIES AND WITH THIS CHANGE CERTAINLY UTILITY RATES WOULD INCREASE BUT WE BELIEVE THEY WOULD STILL BE LOWER THAN A LOT OUR PERIOD COMMUNITIES. WE KNOW WHAT OUR INCREASES BE WORST CASE SCENARIO WE DON'T KNOW HOW THESE OTHER CITIES MAY ADJUST THEIR FEES OUT TO 2029. SO BUT WE DO ANTICIPATE THAT BLOOMINGTON WOULD BE MOVING TO THE RIGHT ON THIS COMPARISON AND MAYBE SOMEWHERE MORE IN THE MIDDLE.  SO THOSE ARE THE COSTS OF OF OF THIS APPROACH BOTH COST AND DEVELOPMENT COST ON RATEPAYERS. I WANT TO POINT OUT THERE'S A LOT OF BENEFITS AS WELL THAT NEED TO BE CONSIDERED. FIRST OF ALL, IT ALLOWS THE COMMUNITY TO CONTINUE TO GROW AND EVOLVE ADD NEW HOUSING, NEW BUSINESSES, NEW SERVICES.  THESE ARE THINGS THAT RESIDENTS VALUE. CERTAINLY THERE WOULD BE INCREASED ECONOMIC ACTIVITY IN THE CITY THROUGH THAT ADDITIONAL GROWTH NEW EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES AND CERTAINLY TAX BASE GROWTH FOR EXAMPLE THE AVERAGE MULTIFAMILY UNIT THAT COMES ON LINE IN BLOOMINGTON GENERATES APPROXIMATE 1250 DOLLARS PER YEAR IN CITY PROPERTY TAXES.  SO THAT IS LOWERS THE TAX BURDEN CITYWIDE IN TERMS OF NEXT STEPS IF THAT'S YOUR DIRECTION TONIGHT. WHAT WE WOULD DO IS QUICKLY PREPARE ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING THE FEE. WE WOULD BRING THAT FORWARD FOR PUBLIC HEARING. THAT COULD BE IN THE NOVEMBER DECEMBER TIMEFRAME. WE WOULD ALSO BRING BEFORE YOU A COUNCIL ITEM TO ORDER A FEASIBILITY REPORT FOR THAT NORTH CENTRAL PROJECT. I WOULD NOTE THAT THE SOUTH CENTRAL PROJECT COUNCIL ALREADY ORDERED A FEASIBILITY ON THAT AND ON SEPTEMBER 16TH. SO THE CITY SEXY COULD INTO EFFECT AS SOON AS THE ORDINANCE IS PUBLISHED.  THAT COULD BE AS SOON AS DECEMBER. AND IN TERMS OF OUR FIRST TWO SEWER PROJECTS WE ANTICIPATE THE SOUTH PROJECT COULD COME ONLINE AS EARLY AS NOVEMBER 2025 AND THE NORTH CENTRAL PROJECT WHICH A MUCH LARGER PROJECT MORE COMPLEX THAT COME ONLINE BY NOVEMBER OF 2027.  SO WE DO HAVE A RECOMMENDED MOTION FOR YOU TONIGHT WHICH IS TO DIRECT STAFF TO PREPARE THE ORDINANCE AND BRING IT BEFORE FOR A PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE WE HAVE A DISCUSSION .  MR. LONG DAY AND I ARE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AS ARE SEVERAL OTHER STAFF MEMBERS. THANK YOU MR. DELANEY. MR. MARK , AGAIN, APPRECIATE IT. I THINK THERE ARE OF THOSE IN RICHFIELD AS WELL. ARE THERE NOT LARGE OF THEM BE GREAT COUNCIL QUESTIONS DISCUSSION COUNCIL D'ALESSANDRO JUST THIS IS KIND OF A RELATED QUESTION GUESS THE THE TIMELINE YOU JUST ARTICULATED AROUND THE NORTH CENTRAL PROJECT DOES IT DOES IT HAVE A POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE IMPACT BASED ON WHAT'S HAPPENING AT THE 494 CORRIDOR RIGHT THEN? LIKE IS THERE IS THERE A REASON WE WOULD DO IT AT ONE POINT OR ANOTHER BASED ON THE FACT THAT THERE'S A LOT OF UPHEAVAL IN THAT GENERAL AREA RIGHT NOW ANYWAY.  I SEE NO LONG COMING FORWARD. IT'S ALWAYS GOOD WHEN I HAVE TO BRING THE ENGINEER NERD ALERTS SORRY MR. MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBER D'ALESSANDRO OUR ORIGINAL INTENTION WAS TO NOT TIE THAT TO THE FOR PROJECT BECAUSE MDOT IS NOT VERY GOOD AT BUILDING UTILITIES LIKE WATER AND SANITARY SEWER. BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT THIS I HAD A MEETING WITH MANDATE ON THE FUTURE PHASE TWO OF THE PROJECT FOR FOR I-94 AND THEY INDICATED IF WE MAY WANT TO FEDERALIZE OUR SANITARY SEWER PROJECT BECAUSE IT WOULD BE WITHIN THE CORRIDOR BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT ANSWER AT THE MOMENT. OKAY IT WAS IT WASN'T SO MUCH I WAS I DON'T I AGREE WITH YOU. I DON'T NECESSARILY THEM TO DO IT FOR US THAT'S FOR SURE. BUT BUT YOU KNOW IF IT'S IF GROUND IS ALREADY BROKEN AND THEY'RE IN THERE WORKING, DO WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY AND ARE WE GOING TRY TO TIME IT SO THAT WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY SO WE'RE NOT GOING BACK TWO MONTHS LATER AND DIGGING UP THE SAME THING THEY JUST DUG UP, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO THAT KIND OF THING. AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE PRESENTATION WE HAVEN'T AUTHORIZED THE FEASIBILITY STUDY AND WE WOULD COME BACK TO YOU IN NOVEMBER.  BUT MY GUT TELLS ME THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO OPEN CUT THAT SANITARY.  WE'RE GOING TO DIRECTIONALLY DRILL IT SO IT WILL NOT IT PROBABLY IMPACT THE FREEWAY ITSELF. IT WILL HAVE IMPACTS ON MORE ROADS. OKAY. THAT'S SUPER HELPFUL. THANK YOU I JUST WAS KIND OF CURIOUS ABOUT THAT AND WHETHER WE WERE TIMING IT TO THAT. I DON'T I THINK THE THE ONLY COMMENTS I WOULD HAVE LIKE WHAT THE WHAT THE CHARGE WOULD BE AND AND I THINK WE WE'RE NOT REALLY WE'RE NOT REALLY ASKING FOR FEEDBACK ON THAT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE BRINGING BACK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. SO IT MY ONLY MY ONLY COMMENT WAS BASED ON SOMETHING I DON'T EVEN THINK IS IN THIS PRESENTATION BUT OMB IT IS YEAH THE RATE INCREASE OR THAT'S THE RATE INCREASE BUT NOT THE SAC CHARGE. THERE WAS AN EARLIER PRESENTATION WE LOOKED AT OUR SAC CHARGE WHAT WE WERE PROPOSING AGAINST OTHER SAC CHARGE FEES IN THE AREA AND THAT WAS WHAT I WAS, I WAS WONDERING IF WE WOULD BE TALKING ABOUT THAT I GUESS AT ANOTHER POINT BECAUSE I DON'T SEE IT IN THIS PRESENTATION UNLESS IT'S IN THE APPENDIX SOMEWHERE.  OH HERE WE GO. IT'S A IT'S A BACK. YEAH THERE WE GO.  OKAY GREAT. DO YOU WANT FEEDBACK ON THIS OR MAYBE I CAN SHUT UP I GUESS IS MY POINT NOT IF YOU HAVE FEEDBACK I MEAN YOU'LL NOTICE COUNCILMEMBER NELSON SAID YOU WON'T SEE THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON ON THERE BUT FAIR FEEDBACK FOR THAT. WELL, THE OTHER QUICK THE QUESTION WOULD BE DO WE FEEL LIKE IN ALIGNMENT WITH EVERYWHERE ELSE I MEAN SOME PEOPLE HAVE IT AT LIKE FIVE K VERSUS SOME PEOPLE HAVE IT AT 500 AND SO I GUESS THE OPEN QUESTION I HAVE IT MAKES SENSE BASED ON THE WAY THAT YOU DESCRIBED HOW YOU CAME TO THE CONCLUSION ABOUT 2020 $30 LIKE I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THE MATH IT'S NOT IS IT DO YOU ACTUALLY LET ASK THIS IN THE FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT SPECIFICALLY FROM THE DEVELOPERS DID THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON THE NUMBER ITSELF OR A RANGE OF NUMBERS TO IMPLY THAT IT IS A BARRIER?  IT WOULDN'T BE A BARRIER. IT SOUNDS LIKE GENERALLY SPEAKING THEY FEEL THEY KNEW IT WAS COMING. THEY KIND OF FEEL GOOD ABOUT IT. THEY KNOW THAT THEY'RE GOING TO WITH IT THEY DEAL WITH IT IN OTHER CITIES. IS THAT IS ANY CONVERSATION THE NUMBER ITSELF THAT HAD WITH THOSE FOLKS?  YEAH.  MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO IN TERMS OF OUR DEVELOPMENT OR MEETINGS WITH DEVELOPER I DON'T REMEMBER SPECIFIC COMMENTS ON THE NUMBER.  I THINK THE DEVELOPERS REALIZE IT'S IN RANGE WITH A LOT OF OTHER CITIES.  ONE THING I WOULD POINT OUT IS THAT WE DON'T TO SET THAT FEE BASED ON WHAT OTHER CITIES CHARGE WE NEED TO HAVE A METHODOLOGY THAT DOES BASED ON BLOOMINGTON'S UNIQUE SITUATION WHILE BUT IT IS GOOD TO KNOW THAT OTHER CITIES HAVE THESE CHARGES AND THAT THEIR RATES YOU KNOW RANGE FROM ANYWHERE YOU KNOW A COUPLE HUNDRED UP TO $5,000 THE ONES THAT WE FOUND BUT EACH CITY WOULD NEED TO LOOK AT THEIR OWN SPECIFIC CIRCUMSTANCES AT THAT I UNDERSTAND THE ONLY COMMENT I WOULD MAKE THEN ON THAT WOULD BE I'M NOT 100% SURE THAT EVEN THOUGH THAT THE ASSET RENEWAL PORTION IS 39% WE MAY WANT TO CONSIDER NOT CHARGING OUR UNIT LIKE ALL OF OUR PEOPLE THE FULL 39% IF WE CAN CHARGE A HIGHER RATE ON THE SACK FEE IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. SO IF THAT'S ACTUALLY CAN BE 3000 WHICH MEANS THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO CHARGE I'M GOING TO CHARGE 5% OR 33% TO THE UTILITY RATE ASSESSMENT THAT MIGHT BE BETTER FOR THE OVERALL CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. SO SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. THANKS. THANK YOU. AND I WILL SAY IT COUNCILMEMBER, IT'S THE NUMBER IS AS AS GLENN LAID THE NUMBER IS BASICALLY WHAT THE NUMBER IS. I MEAN IT'S A SPECIFIC CALCULATION TO DETERMINE WHAT THAT IMPACT FEE CAN BE.  YOU KNOW, AND IT RELATES TO THE I THINK THE WHAT IS IT NEXUS?  I MEAN WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE OFFICIAL PHRASE IN LOOKING FOR AS MAJ-GEN MAY REMEMBERS THE THERE HAS BEEN A FAIR OF LEGAL ANALYSIS OF THIS TYPE OF BODY OF FEES GENERALLY KNOWN AS IMPACT FEES. SO THE COURT WILL LOOK AT WHETHER STATUTORY AUTHORITY TO HAVE SUCH A FEE IN THIS CASE THERE IS AND THEN THE COURT WILL LOOK AT WHETHER THERE IS AN ESSENTIAL NEXUS BETWEEN THE GOVERNMENTAL PURPOSE AND THE AND THE FEE BEING IMPOSED AND THEN THEY'LL ALSO LOOK AT ROUGH PROPORTIONALITY WHICH IS AN INDIVIDUALIZED ASSESSMENT AND THE METHODOLOGY AND AND THEN THE COURT HAS STARTED TO LOOK AT ALSO WHETHER THE FEE ITSELF CONSTITUTES A TAKING SO WE WILL BE IN CONSIDERING ALL OF RELEVANT TESTS AND CONSIDERATIONS IN COMING UP WITH THE METHODOLOGY THAT WE ULTIMATELY BRING BEFORE YOU TO TO CONSIDER CODIFYING AND BE YOU KNOW, TAKING IN THE TOTALITY OF ALL CONSIDERATIONS THAT WE HAVE BEFORE US SO THAT WE CAN NOT ONLY PREPARE SOMETHING THAT ADDRESSES A SITUATION RIGHT NOW BUT HOPEFULLY IN A MORE LONG TERM SUSTAINABLE APPROACH AS WELL. OKAY. SO SO THE BOTTOM LINE IS IT CAN'T BE A NUMBER YOU CAN'T SET THE NUMBER BASED ON SOME SLIGHTLY LIKE WHERE YOU GET IT TO MAKE MORE OUT OF THE DEVELOPERS AND LESS OF THE RESIDENTS.  RIGHT. IT HAS TO HAVE A SPECIFIC IT HAS TO FIT WITHIN THE SPECIFIC SO COULD ACTUALLY BE LOWER BASED ON WHETHER OR NOT THOSE CONDITIONS ARE MET OR NOT MET. I THINK THIS WAS THEIR PRELIMINARY NUMBER WHETHER.  THE DISCUSSION WILL CONTINUE. OKAY. AND WE WILL GET THAT BACK IN NOVEMBER.  THAT'S THAT'S IF WE DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS IS MY UNDERSTANDING IS CORRECT PART OF THE THE YEAH THE PUBLIC HEARING IN NOVEMBER I APPRECIATE IT THANK YOU,  COUNCILMEMBER NELSON. THANK YOU, MAYOR.  AS ONE TO FOLLOW UP ON SOMETHING THAT OUR CITY ATTORNEY JUST SAID, I JUST TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD CORRECTLY THERE IS EXPLICIT STATUTORY AUTHORITY FOR US TO HAVE THIS TYPE OF FEE BECAUSE I KNOW THERE THERE HAS BEEN OTHER FEES THAT OTHER CITIES HAVE IMPOSED THAT THEY DID NOT HAVE THAT SO THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY WAS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION OF A WHACK FEE?  IS THAT JUST NOT NECESSARY BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE WATER AND SO THERE WOULDN'T BE A NEXUS WITH REGARDS TO A OR WE DON'T HAVE A WE DON'T HAVE TO ADD CAPACITY TO THAT PART OF THE SYSTEM. IS THAT ACCURATE BECAUSE BECAUSE TYPICALLY YOU SEE THESE FEES TOGETHER.  YES THERE WAS A COUNCIL MEMBER NELSON THERE WAS NOT DISCUSSION AT THIS TIME ON A WAXY WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S A POSSIBILITY DOWN THE ROAD I DEFER TO UTILITIES ADMINISTRATOR LOOK AND IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE AS PART OF THIS I JUST YOU KNOW IF THERE ARE ISSUES WITH THAT SIDE OF THE EQUATION AS WELL, I WOULD SUGGEST WE HAND OR HANDLE THEM THE SAME WAY IN TERMS OF FEDERAL FUNDING IT WAS RAISED THAT THERE MIGHT BE A POSSIBILITY. MY UNDERSTANDING IS FROM THE INFRASTRUCTURE THERE WAS FUNDING FOR UTILITIES INFRASTRUCTURE FOR LOCAL COMMUNITIES THAT WAS PARTICULARLY TIED TO THOSE COMMUNITIES THAT WERE MAKING SPECIFIC EFFORTS ALLOW FOR MORE HOUSING AND THIS IS SOMETHING THE CITY MANAGER HAS TALKED ABOUT FREQUENTLY OF PROVIDING MORE INCENTIVES.  I ASSUME THOSE WILL BE LOOKED AT. WE DON'T HAVE TO GET INTO ALL THE DETAILS AND FOR ALL I KNOW THAT'S COMPLETELY EXHAUSTED AT THIS POINT BUT IT SEEMS LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY GIVEN ALL THE OTHER HOUSING THAT WE DONE A HOUSING RELATED POLICY THAT WE MAY BE IN A REALLY GOOD POSITION TO GET THAT TYPE OF FUNDING HOPEFULLY AND THEN ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I SAW IN THE PACKAGE WAS THAT FOR THIS FOR THIS WATER RATE FOR THESE THAT COMMERCIAL, 40% OF THE AND RESIDENTIAL PAY IT'S 60%.  AND THAT KIND OF STRUCK ME CONSIDERING LIKE PROPERTY TAXES WE TYPICALLY TALK ABOUT A 5050 BALANCE DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER OPTIONS IN ADDITION TO DIFFERENT THAN THIS TO TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE FEES LIKE IN TEN ,15 MINUTES FROM NOW BECAUSE I DO THINK THEY'RE LATER. SO I JUST WANT TO BRING IT UP IN THERE BECAUSE THINK IT WAS PART OF THIS CONVERSATION AM I WRONG IN UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT THAT COMMERCIAL IS PAYING LESS THAN RESIDENTIAL THIS PARKER MR. LUNDY WHICH ONE? AND EVERYBODY SAY I NEED TO DEFER TO OUR UTILITIES ON THAT . YEAH YEAH BUT DON'T THINK EXTREMISM. MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER NELSON IF YOU COULD REPHRASE THAT QUESTION IN A BIT HOW WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO REPHRASE IT? WELL I THINK WOULD WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO WATER OR WASTEWATER RATES AND THE PROPORTION OF COMMERCIAL VERSUS RESIDENTIAL I DON'T RECALL SEEING IN THE PRESENTATION I CAN TRY TO FIND IT BEFORE WE GET TO THE NEXT CONVERSATION BECAUSE IT'S MORE PERTINENT TO THAT. OKAY.  BECAUSE THIS ISN'T GOING TO IMPACT THAT PART OF IT SO I'LL FIND IT BEFORE THAT. MR. BROOM YOU MAYOR COUNCIL I'LL JUST ADD IN ON THE UTILITY RATES YOU'LL SEE AND IT'S JUST HERE THERE ARE THOSE THEY HAVE DIFFERENT RATES FOR COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL.  SO ON THE RATE PIECE THAT'S APPLYING TO ALL COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL THIS IS JUST NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION NO. OKAY. WELL THANK SO NO I GET THAT THIS IS JUST NEW DEVELOPMENT IT'S SPECIFICALLY THERE TO PROVIDE PAY FOR NEW INFRASTRUCTURE JUST LIKE WHEN ALL THE OTHER DEVELOPMENT WAS BUILT DEVELOPER PAID FOR THE NEW INFRASTRUCTURE AND YOU'RE SEGREGATING OUT THE COSTS OF IMPROVEMENTS TO THE EXISTING MAINTENANCE TO THE EXISTING THE 39% THE 61% IS FOR THE NEW THAT'S HOW WE GET THERE. THAT'S HOW THIS IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE NEXUS IN THE LAW I GET THAT PART OF IT THAT THAT TOTALLY MAKES SENSE TO ME AND THOSE CALCULATIONS WILL BE TWEAKED BEFORE NOVEMBER AND AS WE GO BASED ON ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT AND ACTIVITY SO PART BUT THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT I SAW AND THIS CANDIDLY IS PROBABLY MUCH PERTINENT TO THE NEXT CONVERSATION ABOUT UTILITY RATES IN THE PAST THINK WE'VE REFERRED TO OVER ALL OF THE WATER REVENUE IS A IS IS COME IN AROUND A 6040 SPLIT RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL BUT THAT'S BASED JUST STRICTLY ON USE AND ACCOUNTS THE RATES THAT YOU KNOW NOT PAYING DIFFERENT RATES IT'S JUST A FUNCTION OF WHERE THE WATER IS GOING AND WHO AND WHO'S CONSUMING IT.  THANK YOU.  LET'S REMEMBER ONE QUESTION. I KNOW I THINK IT'S A LIGHT QUESTION WAS BASICALLY ANSWERED. I MEAN IT WASN'T COMPLETELY ANSWERED BUT I THOUGHT IF WE'RE READY MOVE THIS THING. I KNOW WE WERE TELLING TIME SO I JUST HAD I DID HAVE MORE QUESTION. AS WE AS WE LOOK AT FOR THE NORTH CENTRAL PROJECT COMING ON LINE IN 2027 ROUGHLY CAN DEVELOP HAVING CONCURRENTLY OR DOES THE WORK NEED TO BE DONE BEFORE THEN DEVELOPMENT KICKS IN ? MR. MAYOR COUNCIL WHAT WE WOULD DO IS IT CAN THE WORK CAN OCCUR CONCURRENTLY DEPENDING ON WHAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT IS.  SO WE WOULD PUT A CONDITION ON THE APPROVAL THAT THEY CANNOT GET THEIR OCCUPIED CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY UNTIL THIS SEWER PROJECT IS COMPLETED AND WE HAVE DONE THAT ONCE BEFORE OVER IN THE SOUTH LOOP DISTRICT AT, THE AMERICAN BOULEVARD SANITARY SEWER PROJECT AND ONE OF THE MULTIFAMILY KIND OF DEVELOPMENTS AND TO BE 100% CLEAR WITHOUT THAT INCREASE WE WON'T SEE THE DEVELOPMENT IN THAT NORTH CENTER I REMEMBER TALKING TO PAN AMERICAN DISTRICT IN AND IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN WITHOUT AN INCREASE IN THAT CAPACITY. CORRECT? GREAT. THANK SO WITH THAT COUNCIL IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS I WOULD LOOK FOR ACTION ON AND 5.1 I'LL MAKE THE MOTION THERE. COUNCILMEMBER WOMAN I'LL MOVE TO DIRECT STAFF TO TAKE THE NECESSARY STEPS TO ESTABLISH THE CITY SEWER AVAILABILITY CHARGE AS A C SEQ CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY COUNCIL DISCUSSION SO MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO TO DIRECT STAFF TO TAKE THE NECESSARY STEPS TO ESTABLISH A SAC CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY COUNCIL DISCUSSION THIS EVENING. NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS MISS MERCER CARTER CARTER I MUA I LOWMAN NELSON RIVAS D'ALESSANDRO MAYOR BUSSEY I MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO. THANK YOU MUCH. WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO THE DO THE WORK AND LOOK FORWARD TO THIS CONTINUED CONVERSATION MONTH AND 5.2 ON OUR AGENDA IS THE FIRST OF OUR BUDGET DISCUSSIONS TO BUDGET DISCUSSIONS THIS EVENING THIS IS ON THE UTILITY FUNDS AS PART OF THE 2025 BUDGET AND RATE DISCUSSION.  MR. ANDERSON GOOD EVENING ONCE AGAIN THANKS FOR YOUR STEPPING IN AND PROVIDING SOME ANSWERS IN THE LAST TIME AND LOOKING FORWARD TO THE PRESENTATION ON THIS ONE. THANK YOU.  GOOD EVENING AGAIN. I'LL BE HERE WITH YOU TO.  PRESENT BOTH THE WATER AND WASTEWATER UTILITY BUDGETS BEGINNING OF WATER AND TRY TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF EACH UTILITY FOCUSING WATER QUALITY, INFRASTRUCTURE RENEWAL AND AFFORDABLE CITY SO BEGINNING WITH STRATEGIC INVESTMENTS IN WATER IN INFRASTRUCTURE, WATER IN PROCESSES TREATMENT METHODS AND AND PERSONNEL FROM COUNCIL AND PAST COUNCILS HAVE CONSISTENTLY SUPPORTED SUSTAINED DELIVERY OF SAFE AND HIGH QUALITY WATER FOR THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS OPPORTUNITY TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE RECENT BEST GLASS AWARD FROM THE MINNESOTA SECTION OF THE AMERICAN WATER WORKS ASSOCIATION. THIS IS THE THIRD BEST THING GLASS FOR THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AND IS A FUN WAY TO RECOGNIZE AND ACKNOWLEDGE THE WATER QUALITY THAT'S PRODUCED AND DISTRIBUTED HERE.  SIMILARLY IN BLOOMINGTON THIS WEEK LAST WE INCLUDED AN UPDATE ON THE EPA'S NEW LEAD IN COPPER RULE REVISION WHICH REQUIRES WATER SUPPLIERS TO DEVELOP A WATER LINE MATERIALS INVENTORY IN AN EFFORT TO IDENTIFY LEAD OR CERTAIN GALVANIZED MATERIALS IN BOTH THE CITY PORTION OF THAT AS WELL AS THE PRIVATE PORTION THE RULE FURTHER REQUIRES REPLACEMENT OF THOSE SERVICES WITHIN THE NEXT TEN YEARS AND WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS A SAMPLE OF THE STATE DASHBOARD THAT THAT SHOWS BLOOMINGTON'S APPROVED INVENTORY OF OVER 33 OR CLOSE TO 33,000 SERVICES. WHAT YOU DON'T SEE ARE ANY THAT REQUIRE REPLACEMENT I THIS UP FOR TWO REASONS ONE THE EFFORT OF PULLING TOGETHER INVENTORY LIKE THIS RELIED UPON THOSE PAST INVESTMENTS WHETHER IT WAS THE SYSTEMS THAT ALLOWED US TO CAPTURE THAT DATA  PRESERVE THAT DATA AND THEN BE ABLE AND THEN REPORT THAT OUT AS WELL AS THE DECISIONS THAT WERE MADE, YOU KNOW, GOING BACK TO AN ORDINANCE FROM 1960 REQUIRING COPPER OR BETTER WATER SERVICE LINES THOSE THOSE THOSE CODE THAT CODE LANGUAGE PERMIT REQUIREMENTS AND CONSTRUCTION SPECIFICATIONS HELPED LEAD THE CITY TO THIS OUTCOME. ADDITIONALLY NOT RELATED SPECIFICALLY TO THE INVENTORY BUT TO TO THE ISSUE OF LEAD AND COPPER IN GENERAL THE CITY'S TREATMENT TECHNOLOGY INCLUDE A CORROSION CONTROL PROGRAM THAT CONTINUES TODAY. THE TREATMENT PLANT IN THE TRI LAB WORK HAND IN HAND TO MAKE SURE THAT THE WATER THAT LEAVES THE PLANT IT DOESN'T INHIBIT THE POTENTIAL FOR ANY METAL MATERIALS LEACHING SO IF THERE WERE LEAD IN PRIVATE PLUMBING SYSTEMS OR FIXTURES THAT THAT CORROSION CONTROL PROGRAM HELPS PREVENT THAT MATERIAL FROM LEACHING INTO THE WATER. THAT PROGRAM WILL BE CONTINUING.  WE TRY TO COMMUNICATE THIS TYPE OF THESE TYPES OF EFFORTS AND THE QUALITY OF OUR WATER THROUGH OUR WATER REPORT ALSO KNOWN AS THE COMMUNITY CONFIDENCE REPORT. WE WORK VERY WITH COMMUNICATIONS EAT EACH SPRING TO PUT OUT THIS FOUR PAGE DOCUMENT THAT COMES OUT WITH THE JUNE BRIEFING INCLUDES AN OVERVIEW OF THE CITY'S WATER SUPPLY.  THE TREATMENT PROCESS IS FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS UPDATES ON SIGNIFICANT WATER QUALITY PROJECTS AND MOST IMPORTANTLY OUR WATER QUALITY RESULTS OUR LABORATORY RESULTS THAT THAT ARE TAKEN BY THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH THAT THAT DEMONSTRATE THEY COMPLIANCE WITH THE SAFE DRINKING WATER ACT BUT AFFORDABILITY ALL OF THIS AS WE'LL TALK ABOUT IN A COUPLE OF SLIDES WE'LL GET INTO RATES AND BUDGETS BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THAT WE KNOW IS A STRONG PRIORITY OF THE CITIES WE'VE HEARD FROM THE COUNCIL THE ISSUE OF AFFORDABILITY AND EQUITY WITH REGARD TO OUR RATES IN DRINKING WATER WE WE HAVE RELIED UPON PAST PUBLISHED REPORTS FROM BOTH THE AMERICAN WATER WORKS ASSOCIATION AND WATER ENVIRONMENT SUGGESTING THAT WATER WATER BILLS THAT THAT ARE LESS THAN 2 TO 2 AND A HALF PERCENT OF THE MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD CAN BE CONSIDERED AFFORDABLE. SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST WHAT WE'VE UPDATED HERE IS IS THAT LOOKING AT NOT ONLY THE MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME, THE MEDIAN INCOME PER CAPITA FEDERAL POVERTY INCOME FOR A FAMILY OF FOUR AND FEDERAL POVERTY GUIDELINE FOR SINGLE PERSON LOOKING AT THAT DRINKING WATER RATE IMPACT AS YOU CAN SEE ON THIS CHART, ONE COULD ARGUE THAT THAT BLOOMINGTON'S DRINKING WATER IS AFFORDABLE. WE KNOW HOWEVER THIS THIS IS NOT THE WHOLE STORY. THIS DOESN'T ACCOUNT FOR NUANCES INDIVIDUAL BEHAVIORS, OTHER STRESSORS THAT MAY BE OCCURRING.  THE OTHER THING TO NOTE AGAIN WHEN WHEN IF A BLOOMINGTON RESIDENT WE DON'T WE DON'T HAVE A WATER BILL IN BLOOMINGTON, WE HAVE A UTILITY BILL AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DON'T UNDERSTAND IF THAT UTILITY BILL IS NOT PAID WAS BECAUSE OF WATER WASTEWATER,  STORMWATER SOLID WASTE.  SO WITH THAT IN MIND, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THAT STAFF IS UNDERTAKEN A TEAM A TEAM OF STAFF FROM UTILITIES ENGINEERING COED OR READ FINANCE ARE WORKING WITH THE U.S. WATER ALLIANCE A AFFORDABILITY TASK FORCE ALONG WITH A COUPLE OF COMMUNITY PARTNERS WILL HOPEFULLY BE BRINGING AN AGREEMENT FOR COUNCILS SHORTLY TO KIND OF FORMALIZE THAT ARRANGEMENT. THAT'S A TWO YEAR PROJECT WORKING ALONGSIDE CITIES FROM ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO IDENTIFY YOU KNOW, ONE IS THERE IS THERE AN AFFORDABILITY ISSUE? WHAT IS THAT ISSUE AND THEN WHAT TYPES OF STEPS CAN BE TAKEN TO ADDRESS THAT. SO JUST STANDING EXAMPLE OF OF OF WAYS WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT THAT RATES OUR RATES ARE AFFORDABLE AND WATER IS EQUITABLY ACCESSIBLE.  I KNOW COUNCILMEMBER TILLMAN WAS WAITING FOR THIS SLIDE THE RATE COMPARISON I CAN'T RESIST BECAUSE IT DOES ONCE AGAIN SHOW THAT BLOOMINGTON'S WATER RATES FOR SOFTENED WATER WHEN COMPARED WITH A PEER AND IN NEARBY COMMUNITIES REMAINS ONE OF THE LOWEST IT REMAINS ONE OF THE LOWEST. IN ADDITION INCLUDED A GRAPHIC THAT THAT KIND OF OUTLINES ROUGHLY OUTLINES OUR WATER EXPENDITURES ARE HANDLED WITH ABOUT TWO THIRDS OF THAT GOING TOWARD DISTRIBUTION SUPPLY AND TREATMENT AND PURCHASES FROM THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS WITH ABOUT 25% DEDICATED TOWARD ASSET RENEWAL CAPITAL PROJECTS . MR. MAYOR, CAN I JUMP IN THERE? SCOTT, CAN YOU GO BACK QUICKLY ? JUST THINK THE COUNCIL UNDERSTANDS WHAT THIS GRAPHIC SAYS BUT IF THERE'S SOMEBODY WHO'S LOOKING AT HOME CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THE RED BARS ARE VERSUS THE BLUE AND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE UNSAFE AND IN THE SALT AND SURE MAYOR MAYOR BUT CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE IS IS COMPARE LIKE FOR LIKE AND SO BLOOMINGTON SOUTH IS A IS A LIME SOFTENED PRODUCT AT THE PLANT SIMILAR TO MINNEAPOLIS RICHFIELD EDEN PRAIRIE THAT'S WHAT THOSE BLUE BARS ARE THOSE ARE OUR WATER SYSTEMS THAT THAT THAT SOFTEN AT THE PLANT THE RED BARS WITH THE WITH THE WHITE ON TOP THOSE THOSE ARE COMMUNITIES THAT DO NOT SOFTEN WATER SO THAT WATER COMES TO YOUR IT'S IT'S HARDER IT'S NOT AS FINISHED AND IN MOST CASES PEOPLE PURCHASE HOME SOFTENING SYSTEMS AND SO THAT WHITE BAR THAT'S THE COST TO HOME SOFTEN SO AT THE END OF THE DAY WE'RE TRYING TO COMPARE THE SAME PRODUCT ACROSS THE BOARD .  SO WITH THAT WE'VE GOT A 2025 BUDGET REQUEST WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH PAST YEARS AND BLENDS OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE WITH STRATEGIC CAPITAL INVESTMENTS.  THIS IS A SLIDE OF OUR LONG TERM BUDGET MODEL PAYING PARTICULAR ATTENTION TO TOTAL WORKING CAPITAL BALANCE. WE USE THAT TO HELP GAUGE THE OVERALL HEALTH OF THIS BUDGET THAT THAT WORKING CAPITAL BALANCE IF YOU RECALL IS BASED ON ON CASH FLOW FOR OPERATIONS, EMERGENCY REPAIRS ,UNSCHEDULED SYSTEM ALTERATIONS, CAPITAL FOR THE FOLLOWING YEAR AND RESERVE FOR FUTURE ASSET RENEWAL RENEWAL.  AND SO FOR 2025 WE'RE PROPOSING A 3% RATE INCREASE WHICH RESULTS TO ROUGHLY $0.90 A MONTH FOR THAT IF YOU'RE ASSUMING THAT 6000 GALLONS PER MONTH USE WHICH A LITTLE BIT HIGH BUT ALSO ATTEMPTS TO ACCOUNT FOR ANY TWO USE AND WITH THAT I THINK I'M GOING TAKE QUESTIONS OR MOVE TO WASTEWATER COUNCIL QUESTIONS ON WATER BEFORE WE HAD WASTEWATER COUNCIL MEMBER LOWMAN FIX FOR THE SLIDE I'VE GOT GREAT SLIDES SO THEN WITH WITH THE WATER HERE WITH WITH WE HAD THIS YEAR WHERE WE HAD ADDITIONAL YOU KNOW WE KIND OF HAD A LOT OF HELP FROM MOTHER NATURE WELL THAT IMPACT US IN THE FUTURE YEARS KIND OF GOING OUT OR IS IT JUST OKAY WE HAD ONE YEAR OR OVER IN A YEAR OF MINI THAT WE'VE HAD MAYOR ROSSI COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN WE STRUGGLE YEAR IN AND YEAR OUT TO TRY AND GUESS WHAT MOTHER NATURE'S IS GOING TO BRING US.  IF YOU RECALL JUST LAST YEAR WE WERE IN A PROLONGED DROUGHT AND SO WE SOLD A LOT OF WATER AT TIER TWO. A LOT OF PEOPLEATERED THEIR LAWNS AND DID OTHER THINGS. SO YES, THIS YEAR NOT AS MUCH IN FACT NOT MUCH AT ALL ALTHOUGH THE LAST MONTH WE'VE BEEN DOING OUR BEST TO CATCH UP. SO I THINK WE WE KIND OF MANAGE THOSE PEAKS AND VALLEYS BUT AS FAR AS AS HAVING A LONG TERM IMPACT, I MEAN THAT'S THAT'S WHERE WE LOOK AT THAT THAT LONG TERM MODEL AND KEEP AN EYE ON THAT WORKING CAPITAL BALANCE.  WE KNOW TWO THINGS THAT REVENUE WIL FLUCTUATE FROM TIME TO TIME BASED ON AND ON THE WEATHER ON CLIMATE AND OUR CAPITAL EXPENDITURES WILL FLUCTUATE DEPENDING ON WHAT PROJECT WE HAVE PLANNED FOR ANY PARTICULAR YEAR. AND SO BETWEEN THE TWO OF THOSE THAT WORKING CAPITAL BALANCE WILL MOVE A LITTLE BIT AND THAT HELPS US TRY TO TRY OUR BEST TO KEEP RATES AT AT SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE CONSISTENT AS OPPOSED TO HIGH SPIKES AND I APPRECIATE THAT SO THAT WE SEE A HIGHER A HIGHER NUMBER OF THIS YEAR SO I APPRECIATE THAT. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON YEAH.  MAYOR TWO QUICK QUESTIONS. IS THERE ANYTHING IN THE DATA ABOUT USAGE THAT WOULD LEAD US TO HAVE ANY TYPE OF CONVERSATION THE 12,000,  THE TIER ONE TIER TWO CUT OFF OR IS THAT STILL FAIRLY CONSISTENT? YEAH, THAT'S STILL A PRIVACY CONCERN, NELSON THAT'S STILL FAIRLY CONSISTENT. WE SAW LAST YEAR WE WE RAN AN AVERAGE IF IF I CAN HAVE THE OVERHEAD AND STILL A CHART FROM A PREVIOUS PRESENTATION SO THIS WAS A COMPARISON OF ANNUAL WINTER AND SUMMER USE SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE GRAPH THE RIGHT THAT'S YOUR THAT YOUR ANNUAL USE FOR YOUR COMMERCIAL MULTI RESIDENTIAL AND SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL WITH THE RED BAR ON TOP OF EACH OF THOSE IS THAT TIER TWO USE SO YOU CAN SEE IN THE IN THE WINTER IN THE MIDDLE THERE THAT'S THAT'S THAT DEMONSTRATES THAT TIER TWO USE WHAT WHAT WE THE CONCLUSION WE DRAW FROM THAT IS IS THERE'S NOT A LOT OF TIER TWO USE USED BY PROPERTIES TO TO MEET THOSE KIND OF NON-DISCRETIONARY WATER USES AND THAT THAT AND THE GRAPH ON THE RIGHT IS IS BASICALLY THAT'S THAT SUMMER USE THAT'S WHERE THAT TWO USE IS COMING IN . SO WE'RE PRETTY ON THAT ON THAT TIER THRESHOLD THAT HAS CHANGED OVER THE YEARS FROM WHEN WHEN THE WHEN THE CONSERVATION RATE STRUCTURE WAS INITIALLY ESTABLISHED. BOY, I THINK IT WAS IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN CLOSE TO 20,000 GALLONS FOR THAT BI MONTHLY AND HAS BEEN MODIFIED TO AGAIN AS I SAY MAKE SURE THOSE NON-DISCRETIONARY NEEDS ARE ABLE TO BE MET UNDER THAT TIER ONE WITH WITH MAYBE EVEN YOU KNOW A LITTLE EXTRA TO TO DO THAT OUTDOOR WATERING OR GARDENING OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE.  BUT THAT THAT THAT TIER TWO ACTS AS AS IT'S INTENDED TO TO ENCOURAGE CONSERVATION FOR THAT NON-DISCRETIONARY OUTDOOR USE.  THANK YOU. QUICK FOLLOW UP ON DESERT.  A REASON WHY 2023 IS SO MUCH LOWER. THAT WAS SO THAT WAS LAST YEAR'S BUDGET PRESENTATION.  THAT WAS THIS WAS NOT A FULL YEAR. OKAY THANK YOU.  THANK YOU FOR CATCHING THAT. YEAH. I'M SORRY FOR POINTING THAT OUT. LAST QUESTION. THIS IS A POLICY QUESTION MORE THAN ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, WOULD THERE EVER BE ANY CONSIDERATION OF NOT CHANGING TIER ONE AND TWO OR TWO RATES BY THE SAME PERCENTAGE AND TO PUSH THE TIER TWO UP A LITTLE BIT MORE KEEP ENCOURAGING THAT CONSERVATION.  WELL, AS YOU KNOW, THE REALITY IS AS MOST PEOPLE STAY WITHIN TIER ONE. YEAH. MAYOR BUSSEY, COUNCILMEMBER NELSON I THINK WE COULD WE COULD LOOK INTO THEN IN A LITTLE MORE DETAIL HOWEVER BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TRY TO MAKE SURE WE DO THAT THE THE REVENUE THAT'S NEEDED TO OPERATE THE UTILITY FOR MOST PART IS GOING TO RELY ON THAT AND THAT TIER ONE HOWEVER YOU KNOW THAT THE TIER TWO REVENUE DOES COME INTO PLAY. IT'S IT'S FAR LESS PREDICTABLE AGAIN BASED ON THE WEATHER. SO TO TO TRY AND AND REALLY LASER IN ON THAT I'M NOT SURE HOW BENEFICIAL IT WOULD RISK A PERSPECTIVE YOU RISK A BIG MESS IF THE WEATHER IS SUCH THAT RAINY AND YOU DON'T GET THOSE REVENUES. THANK YOU.  ANY ALSO ON THE WATER COUNCIL ONWARD ONWARD. OKAY UTILITY I'LL START OFF WITH THIS LINE METROPOLITAN COUNCIL ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES MKS AS YOU'LL SEE IN A IN A SLIDE IN A COUPLE OF MINUTES THE PORTION OF THIS UTILITY PAYS FOR T CONVEYANCE THROUGH THE MKS INTERCEPTORS ULTIMATE TREATMENT OF THE CITY'S WASTEWATER AT THE SENECA WASTEWATER PLANT.  THAT DARK BLUE OR BLACK LINE THAT'S THAT'S THE INTERCEPTOR. COUPLE OF OF THAT COUNCIL ON LIVE STATIONS ALONG THE WAY AND ALL THE GREEN ARE THE CITY'S COLLECTION SYSTEM JUST LIKE IN IN THE WATER UTILITY STRATEGIC ON THE WASTEWATER SIDE HAVE HELPED TO CREATE A SYSTEM THAT COLLECTS AND CONVEYS WASTEWATER IN A SAFE AND UNINTERRUPTED MANNER WE UTILIZE TOOLS LIKE OUR WORK ORDER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM AND OTHER TOOLS TO TRACK PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE AS WELL AS AS PAY ATTENTION TO LONG AS WELL AS UTILIZE A LONG TERM CAPITAL PREDICTOR MODEL TO TRACK CAPITAL INVESTMENT AIMED MAINTAINING THE COLLECTION SYSTEM WHILE MINIMIZING BACKUPS OTHER FAILURE MODES .  JOHN AND GLENN STOLE MY SLIDE EARLIER BUT HERE'S THE WASTEWATER RATE COMPARISON AND AND AGAIN WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE VERY PROUD TO BE ABLE TO OFFER THESE SERVICES AT THIS LEVEL FOR A RATE THAT'S THAT COMPARES VERY WELL WITH OUR NEIGHBORS AND AGAIN SIMILAR TO THE WATER YOU CAN SEE IN TERMS OF THE BUDGET ALLOCATIONS OUR OUR PASS THROUGH COSTS MIX ALONG COLLECTIONS ACCOUNT FOR ABOUT 75% OF THE OF THE BUDGET THIS THE 2023 BUDGET AND SO THAT ANSWER IN YOUR PIECE WAS 11% AND AGAIN AS I MENTIONED SIMILAR TO WATER THAT WILL FLUCTUATE A LITTLE BIT DEPENDING ON THE SCOPE OF OF OF THE PROJECTS THAT THAT HAVE THAT WE HAVE PLANNED OUT FOR FOR ANY GIVEN YEAR AND THEN AS IS WAS NOTED IN THE EARLIER PRESENTATION THESE ARE THE CAPACITY IMPROVEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED DUE TO PLANNED OR PROPOSED ARE PROJECTED TOTALING ALMOST $55 MILLION IN NEW INFRASTRUCTURE BETWEEN NOW AND 2040.  AGAIN BASED ON THOSE PROJECTIONS AND OUR 2025 BUDGET REQUEST YOU'LL THE CAPITAL EXPENDITURES HERE ARE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER QUITE A BIT HIGHER THAN THAN IN 2024 OR 2023 AND THAT'S DUE TO SOME EXISTING PROJECTS IN THE CHP ONE IN THE SOUTH LOOP AREA AND THE THE SOUTH CENTRAL PROJECT IS CURRENTLY INCLUDED IN THIS BUDGET AS FEASIBILITY STUDY WAS ORDERED BUT CERTAINLY CONTINGENT ON AND FUTURE DECISIONS BY THE COUNCIL WITH REGARD TO TO THE SAC AND THINGS AND THEN OUR WE'VE GOT OF THESE THE THE LONG TERM MODEL FOR THE FOR THE WASTEWATER UTILITY THIS ONE IS INCLUDING THE CAPACITY IMPROVEMENTS SO THAT SOUTH CENTRAL BLOOMINGTON PROJECT WELL AS THE NORTH CENTRAL PROJECT WHICH REQUIRES BOND SALE THIS IS WHAT WHAT THAT LONG MODEL LOOKS LIKE AND THEN MODEL NOT INCLUDING IF IF THAT'S NOT A DIRECTION THE COUNCIL ULTIMATELY THIS IS WHAT I'D SAY IS ARE ARE NON SAC NOT AND NOT INCLUDING THOSE CAPACITY PROJECTS SO FOR 2025 OUR PROPOSED WASTEWATER RATE INCREASE IS 3% AGAIN SOMEWHERE IN SOMEWHERE BETWEEN CENTS TO UP TO $1 A MONTH FOR A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMER.  AND AGAIN AS WE GET TO QUESTIONS HERE AND I THINK YOU MAY HAVE STATED IT BUT TO RESTATE IT ONE MORE TIME THIS IS WATER AND WASTEWATER ARE NOT MONEYMAKERS FOR THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON THE MONEY THAT IS COLLECTED GO THE OPERATION ,THE MAINTENANCE THE IT GO TO THE SYSTEM BASICALLY GO TO THE PRODUCTION OF THE WATER PRODUCTION AND DISTRIBUTION OF THE WATER AND AND THE WASTEWATER. THIS IS NOT A MONEYMAKER FOR THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON,  CORRECT? CORRECT. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON OF THE SENIOR THERE. YEAH. THANKS MAN. THIS IS PROBABLY WHERE I SHOULD HAVE JUMPED IN WITH MY COMMENTS EARLIER SO BUT I DID FIND WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR SO IN THE PRESENTATION ABOUT THE SAC CHARGES I THINK 390 OR 370 SOMETHING IN THE PACKET I CAN FIND IT BUT IT STARTS OFF WITH IT'S THE DISCUSSION OF IF WE USE THE SANITARY SEWER UTILITY RATEPAYERS TO PAY FOR THESE COSTS FOR THESE IMPROVEMENTS AND IT ENDS WITH THE SANITARY SEWER UTILITY REVENUE COMPRISED OF BOTH RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL OR INDUSTRIAL WHERE ROUGHLY 60% COMES FROM RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS AND 40% FROM COMMERCIAL OR INDUSTRIAL CUSTOMERS.  AND SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS GETTING TO IS IS THAT SEEMED DIFFERENT.  A LOT OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE GET I UNDERSTAND IT'S BASED ON USAGE.  SO LOOKING AT THIS SLIDE, MY QUESTION IS IS IT POSSIBLE TO HAVE A TIERED RATE STRUCTURE FOR WASTEWATER SIMILAR WHAT WE HAVE FOR WATER?  SO YOUR BASIC CONCERN NELSON YOUR RATES ARE BASED ON YOUR WATER RATES SO THE AMOUNT OF WATER YOU USE TURNS INTO AMOUNT OF WATER THAT YOU SEND WITH THE EXCEPTION OF SOME ARE USED SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOMES ARE ARE BILLED FOR THEIR WINTER USAGE SO THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT YOU'RE YOU'RE SPRINKLING THAT WATER'S NOT THE SANITARY SEWER SYSTEM SO WE'RE NOT CHARGED. WE'RE TRYING NOT TO CHARGE YOU A SEWER FEE FOR FOR THAT OUTDOOR USE WHEREAS A COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL CUSTOMER THEY'RE PAYING THEY THAT FULL THEIR WATER EQUALS THEIR SEWER AND I GUESS THAT'S KIND OF MY POINT IS COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL ON WATER PAY IS ALL TIER TWO THEY PAY THE SAME RATE AS RESIDENTIAL ON WASTEWATER BUT THEY'RE PAYING AND THERE BUT THERE IS YOUR POINT THAT THEY'RE PAYING MORE BECAUSE THEY'RE PAYING TO WATER THEIR LAWN FOR SUMMER USE OR NO I'M SAYING UNLESS UNLESS A COMMERCIAL ACCOUNT HAS AN IRRIGATION ONLY ACCOUNT ALL OF THE WATER THAT A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY OR ACCOUNT USE USES TRANSLATES INTO A WASTEWATER FEE.  WE DON'T USE WINTER USAGE TO CALCULATE A WASTEWATER RATE FOR A COMMERCIAL CUSTOMER LIKE . WE DO A RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMER AND SO THEN THAT MEANS THAT THERE.  SO IF THEY'RE USING WATER IF IF IF TORO DOESN'T HAVE AN IRRIGATION ONLY ACCOUNT AND WATER THEIR CAMPUS THEY'RE PAYING SEWER ON THAT WATER. OKAY.  SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS STILL THERE THAT YOU KNOW, WOULD IT MAKE SENSE TO HAVE A TIERED RATE STRUCTURE FOR HIGHER USAGE AND POTENTIALLY A COMMERCIAL USAGE I OR HIGHER SEWER FLOWS? YEAH. SO SO I THINK AND THAT'S I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE POTENTIAL OUTCOMES OF THE AFFORDABILITY TASK FORCE IS A DIFFERENT STRUCTURE FOR DIFFERENT CUSTOMERS DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF USE MORE OF A COST TO SERVICE CAPACITY AVAILABILITY KIND OF CHARGE I DON'T KNOW IT'S A WAYS OUT BUT I CAN ENVISION THAT MIGHT BE AN OUTCOME IN COUNCILMEMBER. I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS WE WENT TIER ONE TIER TWO WAS ULTIMATELY WITH TIER TWO WAS TO TRY AND ENCOURAGE CONSERVATION AND IF IF ANYONE IS IF THE WATER IF THE WATER USAGE IN THE WASTEWATER USAGE THEY ARE ALREADY PAYING FOR HIGHER WATER YOU KNOW THERE ABOVE 6000 GALLONS EVERY MONTH. SO WHICH MEANS YOU'RE PAYING MORE FOR WASTEWATER AS WELL. THAT MAKES SENSE. SO IT'S KIND.  YEAH UNDERSTOOD. BECAUSE REMEMBER RIVAS I JUST HAVE A QUESTION ON REGARDS TO SINCE THE WATER USAGE DECREASED CHARGE FOR THE SEWER WATER OR WASTEWATER IN A HOUSEHOLD HAS TO BE COMPARING TO A BUSINESS LEASE HOW CAN A BUSINESS WE PAY MORE OR MEAN I'M SORRY LET ME REPHRASE THIS IF WHAT IT USES CREATES A FEE FOR WASTEWATER RIGHT?  THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW AND THEN A HOUSEHOLD IS IS WATERING THE LAWN IN THE SUMMER THAT WATER USAGE IS STILL BEING CHARGED AS WASTEWATER EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT GOING INTO THE INTO THE SEWER, RIGHT? NO. THAT 1/2.  WELL HOW CAN YOU IDENTIFY THAT THAT WATER IS NOT BEING IT'S NOT GOING INTO THE SEWER JUST BEING USED IN THE LAWN IS HOW CAN YOU MEASURE THAT.  SO WE METER THE WATER THAT'S USED BY EVERY CUSTOMER AND SO FOR THE PURPOSES RESIDENTIAL SEWER BILLING WE LOOK AT THEIR WINTER WATER PERIOD AND SAY THAT'S THE THAT'S THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT THAT ENDS UP IN THE SEWER.  WELL REGARDLESS OF WHETHER IT'S WINTER OR SUMMER, THAT'S THEIR INDOOR WATER USE AND SO THAT BECOMES THEIR SEWER BILL FOR THE SUMMER EGG THAT'S COUNCIL ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.  SO 3% WATER, 3% WASTEWATER. YES, VERY GOOD. THANK YOU SO MUCH .  OKAY, GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS BRIAN GREENALL. I'M THE WATER RESOURCES MANAGER HERE AT THE CITY.  I'M GOING TO TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE STORMWATER UTILITY FUND TONIGHT.  BRIAN, COULD YOU YOU COULD GET A LITTLE CLOSER BRING THE MIKE A LITTLE CLOSER TO YOU.  THANK YOU. OKAY. SO STORMWATER UTILITY WAS FOUNDED IN 1988.  IT WAS THE PRIMARY MECHANISM USED TO FUND LARGE INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS THAT THE CITY COMPLETED AS A RESULT OF THE JULY 1987 STORM EVENT WHICH CAUSED SIGNIFICANT FLOODING ACROSS THE CITY. WE'RE ALSO PARTICIPATING AN ADAPTIVE LEVEL CONTROL PROJECT WHICH IS SOME NEW TECHNOLOGY THAT CAN BE IMPLEMENTED OR RETROFITTED INTO EXISTING STORM SEWER SYSTEMS TO HELP US CONTROL THE LEVEL OF LAKES AND PONDS OUT THERE BASED ON THE WEATHER FORECAST. SO WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH NEMO CREEK WATERSHED DISTRICT ON WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE TO IMPLEMENT THAT TECHNOLOGY WITHIN SOME STORM SEWER SYSTEMS.  SCOTT DESCRIBED THE WATER AFFORDABILITY STUDY SO WE'RE PARTNERING WITH THAT AS WELL. I'M NOT GOING TO INTO THAT IN ANY MORE DETAIL THAN SCOTT ALREADY PROVIDED AND THEN PART OF OUR RICHFIELD BLOOMINGTON WMO WORK PARTNERED HENNEPIN COUNTY TO BE OUT AT THIS SOUTH GATE APARTMENT COMPLEX WITH MANAGEMENT OUT THERE AS WELL AS THE RESIDENTS TO BRING SOME MEANINGFUL STORMWATER BUMPERS AS WELL AS STORMWATER EDUCATION TO THE PROPERTY OUT THERE SO THAT WORK IS CURRENTLY ONGOING. WE WERE ONE OF FIVE CITIES TO PILOT THIS SMART SALT DESIGN SO TRYING TO KIND OF REPHRASE HOW WE THINK ABOUT SALT REDUCTION OUT IN THE ENVIRONMENT, TRYING TO BRING IT MORE INTO THE DESIGN PHASE ,TRYING TO BRING WINTER DRAINAGE KIND OF ON PAR WITH HOW WE THINK ABOUT STORMWATER DRAINAGE FOR SPRING, SUMMER AND FALL CONDITIONS.  AND THEN WE'RE ALSO CURRENTLY WORKING WITH OUR MAINTENANCE CREWS ON A PILOT PROGRAM FOR ENHANCED STREET SWEEPING. WE'RE CURRENTLY PILOTING IT IN THE PENN LAKE WATERSHED KIND OF CONSISTENT WITH THE PENN LAKE PLAN THAT HAS COME BEFORE COUNCIL EARLIER THIS YEAR AND SO JUST ONE FALL CITY SWEEP OUT THERE FOLLOWING THE GUIDANCE FROM MPCA TO IN ORDER TO CALCULATE THE NUTRIENT REMOVAL OUT THERE. SO ONE FALL SWEEP THROUGH THE PENN LAKE WATERSHED RESULTED IN A DECREASE ú45 OF PHOSPHORUS COMING OUT OF THE WATERSHED SO PRETTY ENCOURAGING  SO OUR SINGLE FAMILY ANNUAL FOR 2024 IS DISPLAYED ON THE SCREEN.  I'M BLOOMINGTON. WE ARE KIND OF ON THE UPPER PORTION OF THE CHART THERE AT $112.32 FOR 2025. WE ARE LOOKING AT A 5% RATE INCREASE WHICH IS THE GREEN BAR THAT'S SHOWN ON THE ON THE CHART AT $117.94.  SO THE 2025 BUDGET REQUEST QUITE SIMILAR TO 2020 FOR A SLIGHT DECREASE IN EXPENDITURES THE CAPITAL PROJECTS BEING THE LARGEST CONTRIBUTING FACTOR TO WHAT GOES INTO THE STORMWATER UTILITY FUND AND THIS IS A SNAPSHOT OF THE LONG TERM BUDGET MODEL AND SO FOR AGAIN 2025, YOU KNOW SIMILAR TO 2024 2026 WE HAVE CURRENTLY PROGRAMED SOME ADDITIONAL CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS RELATED TO THE TIM DEAL FOR PENN AS WELL AS WORKING ON THE NORMAL CREEK PROJECT.  SO THAT DOES SO THOSE INCREASE IN THE CAPITAL PROJECTS THEN DOES IS REFLECTED THEN IN THAT WORKING CAPITAL BALANCE AS WE SPEND THAT DOWN  AND SO AT A 5% RATE INCREASE CITIES STORMWATER FEE IS CHARGED ON FIVE DIFFERENT LAND CLASSIFICATION SYSTEMS YOU SEE ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE CHART THERE IT'S ON A PER ACRE BASIS . EVERY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOT IN TOWN IS CONSIDERED ONE THIRD OF AN ACRE AND THAT'S HOW THEIR COST IS CALCULATED .  THAT'S ALL I HAVE SO I'M HAPPY TO TAKE QUESTIONS IF ANYBODY'S GOT LOTS OF QUESTIONS FOR MR. GREEN ON TODAY, COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO CAN YOU CAN DESCRIBE REALLY QUICKLY MR. GREENALL WITH THE CAPITAL PROJECT FOR YEAR IS IN THE FOUR I THINK IT'S 4.45 MILLION IS THAT CAN YOU ARTICULATE VERY QUICKLY WHAT THE CAPITAL PROJECTS ARE THERE SO IN THE STORMWATER UTILITY ARE TYPICAL CAPITAL PROJECTS ONE INCLUDES ASSET RENEWAL WHICH IS PART OF THE PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM SO THE STORM SEWER IS BROUGHT TO CURRENT STANDARDS THROUGH THE THROUGH THE MANAGEMENT PROGRAM WE RUN TWO STORMWATER MAINTENANCE PROJECTS ONE IN THE SUMMER THAT ADDRESSES STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE ACROSS THE CITY THAT ISN'T IS NOT BEING ADDRESSED THROUGH PMP OR OTHER PROJECTS. AND THEN WE RUN A POND MAINTENANCE PROJECT IN THE WINTER TIME LIKE WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON THE UPPER POND AT BRYANT WHICH WE WERE SUPPOSED TO DO LAST YEAR BUT THE WEATHER DID NOT COOPERATE SO WE HAD TO POSTPONE THAT SO HOPEFULLY IT'LL GET CALLED THIS YEAR AS WELL AS A COUPLE OF ADDITIONAL PONDS THAT WERE THAT WE'LL DO THIS YEAR. WE TYPICALLY FOCUS THAT WORK IN THE WINTERTIME BECAUSE IT DECREASES OUR ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT AND DECREASES THE RISK SINCE WE'RE WORKING KIND OF THE END OF SOME STORMS THAT ARE PIPES THEY'RE ADDITIONAL IN 26 WOULD BE SOME WATER RETENTION PROJECTS I'M LOOKING AT IN THE PENN LAKE WATERSHED THERE'S A COUPLE OTHER ONES I CAN'T RECALL THEM OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.  THAT'S OKAY. I'M JUST KIND OF CURIOUS WITH AT THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD THAT WAS GREAT. I APPRECIATE HOW MANY OF THE PROPORTIONALLY SPEAKING HOW MANY OF OF BLOOMINGTON'S LAKES PONDS ARE ACTUALLY STORMWATER RETENTION ARE ALL OF THEM USED IN THAT CAPACITY? ARE THERE ANY THAT ARE JUST NATURAL LAKES THAT WE DON'T MESS WITH? MAYOR BUSSEY COUNCILMEMBER COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THE BULK MAJORITY OF THEM ARE STORMWATER PONDS, STORMWATER WETLANDS I GUESS AS WE CALL THEM. SO I GUESS I MEAN TO ELABORATE ON THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE WHEN THE CITY WAS DEVELOPED KNOW WE PRIMARILY YOU KNOW PIPED AWAY DRAINAGE FROM SURFACE TO THE CLOSEST LOW AREA WITHOUT A LOT OF OF WHAT THE CONSEQUENCE IN THE FUTURE MIGHT BE AS A RESULT OF THAT.  AND SO THAT'S WHY THE MAJORITY OF THOSE WETLANDS AND PONDS LAKES WITHIN TOWN DO PROVIDE SOME LEVEL OF STORMWATER TREATMENT. THANKS.  ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR THANK YOU MR. FRIEDEL. THANKS.  YOU'RE GOING TO DO OUR SOLID WASTE UTILITY FUN PRESENTATION FOR US. YES I AM. I AM PRESENTING THE SOLID WASTE UTILITY ON BEHALF OF SOLID WASTE PROGRAM COORDINATOR.  LAURA HORNER WHO IS UNABLE TO JOIN US BUT HAS GRACIOUSLY PREPARED ALL THE INFORMATION FOR THIS PRESENTATION I'M ABOUT TO GIVE SO I START WITH JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE SOLID WASTE FUN AND SOME RECENT ACCOMPLISHMENTS.  THE SOLID WASTE FUND INCLUDES RESIDENTIAL GARBAGE ORGANICS YARD WASTE, THE BULKY ITEM MANAGEMENT PROGRAM CLEANUPS AFTER MAJOR STORMS AND PRIVATE PROPERTY ENVIRONMENTAL ABATEMENTS AND ORGANIZED SOLID WASTE COLLECTION BEGAN IN 2016. ORGANICS RECYCLING STARTED IN 2020 AND CURRENTLY 30% OF HOUSEHOLDS ARE CURRENTLY PARTICIPATING ORGANICS RECYCLING AND IN 2023 OVER 2500 HOUSEHOLDS PICKED UP FREE COMPOSTABLE BAGS PROVIDED BY THE CITY AND.  WE HOSTED A COMPOST GIVEAWAY WITH 880 HOUSEHOLDS ATTENDING . THE SUSTAINABLE BULKY ITEM MANAGEMENT PROGRAM LAUNCHED IN 2023 OFFERING MONTHLY BULKY COLLECTION FOR REUSE AND RECYCLING AND IT HAS BEEN STUDIED BY SEVERAL INCLUDING AND INCLUDED IN THE STATE'S METRO WASTE POLICY PLAN AND THE ANNUAL RECYCLING OFF EVENT IN SEPTEMBER HAD OVER 1000 VEHICLES IN ATTENDANCE AND SWAP EVENTS HAVE ALSO BEEN VERY WELL ATTENDED AND THEN ALSO IN 2023 CITY RECEIVED STATEWIDE RECOGNITION INCLUDING LEAGUE OF MINNESOTA CITY SUSTAINABLE AWARD AND THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE INNOVATION AND SUSTAINABILITY AWARD.  AND IN 24 THE CITY WON THE ISAAC WALTON LEAGUE PUBLIC AWARD FOR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND PROGRAM ADMINISTRATION AND THE SOLID WASTE CHAPTER OF THE CITY'S CLIMATE ACTION PLAN WILL START IN 2025 TO GUIDE FUTURE PROGRAMS AND SO HERE WE HAVE THE SOLID WASTE BUDGET SUMMARIZED AND YOU'LL SEE REVENUES ARE PROJECTED TO INCREASE BY 2.87% COMPARED TO 2024 MAINLY DUE TO A RISE IN PROGRAM INCOME AND THIS INCLUDES RESIDENTIAL SOLID WASTE. THESE EXPENDITURES ARE EXPECTED TO DECREASE BY ABOUT 10.31% AND PRIMARILY THIS IS BECAUSE THE CURBSIDE CLEAN UP IS IN EVERY OTHER YEAR PROGRAM SO THAT RESULTS IN LOWER COSTS FOR 25 SINCE WE JUST DID THIS CLEANUP IN 24. SO WE DO ANTICIPATE A POSITIVE NET RESULT WHICH IS PLANNED 2025. SO REVENUES ARE GOING TO BE EXCEEDING EXPENDITURES BY APPROXIMATELY 670,000 AND THAT WILL BE ALLOCATED TOWARDS THAT 2026 CURBSIDE CLEANUP.  AND THEN WE HAVE OUR SLIDE THAT SHOWS WE ARE ON TRACK TO MEET THE WORKING CAPITAL GOAL FOR THE SOLID WASTE FUND IN THE LONG TERM. AND AGAIN YOU CAN SEE THE EVERY OTHER YEAR PLAN FOR CURBSIDE CLEANUP EXPENSES .  SO ALTOGETHER GARBAGE AND RECYCLING RATES ARE COMBINED HERE AND THEY INCLUDE A THREE AND A HALF PERCENT PRICE ESCALATOR AS PER OUR COLLECTION.  HOWEVER THERE ARE NO INCREASES IN THE FEES FOR THE BULKY ITEM MANAGEMENT PROGRAM OR THE ORGANICS RECYCLING SO THAT'S IT'S RESULTING IN A WEIGHTED AVERAGE SPEED INCREASE OF 2.6% ACROSS THE GARBAGE RECYCLING ORGANICS AND BULKY ITEM.  SO NEXT TO SEVERAL FACTORS MAY INFLUENCE MAY INFLUENCE RATES SO KEEP IN MIND SO FOR FUTURE RATE CONSIDERATIONS THAT ARE COMING OUR CURRENT CONTRACT WITH THE BLOOMINGTON HAULERS EXPIRES JUNE 2026. WE ARE IN NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE CONSORTIUM AND IF UNSUCCESSFUL AN RFP PROCESS NEW SERVICE PROVIDERS WOULD BEGIN IN DECEMBER NEGOTIATE.  SIGNS ARE PROGRESSING AND WE'LL REPORT BACK TO COUNCIL IN TWO MONTHS. RECENT CONTRACTS IN OTHER METRO CITIES SHOW COLLECTION PRICE INCREASES DUE TO RISING HOLOCAUST SUCH STAFFING, NEW TRUCKS, FUEL AND DISPOSAL DISPOSAL COSTS ARE EXPECTED TO RISE WITH LIMITED CAPACITY AT THE HERC AND LOCAL LANDFILLS. WE DO CONTINUE TO RECEIVE ANNUAL SCORE GRANT FUNDS FROM HENNEPIN COUNTY WHICH HELPS OFFSET RATE INCREASES WASTE DIVERSION EDUCATION AND PROGRAMS AND FOLLOWING  OUR RECENT RATE STUDY BLUE COLLAR COUNSELOR MENTIONED ADOPTING MORE AGGRESSIVE PAY AS YOU THROW GARBAGE RATES AND POTENTIALLY INTRODUCING AN EVERY OTHER WEEK SERVICE LEVEL IN 2026. SO THOSE ARE FUTURE THINGS THAT WILL BE COMING THIS COULD ENCOURAGE RESIDENTS TO REDUCE GARBAGE AND INCREASE RECYCLING COMPOSTING WHICH IS ALIGNING WITH OUR SUSTAINABILITY GOALS . ALL RIGHT. SO THAT WAS SORT WAYS I GUESS I'LL PAUSE IF THERE'S QUESTIONS BEFORE I GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE COUNCILMEMBER AND LAMENT THANK YOU AND I KNOW YOU'RE NOT SO IT'S MORE MORE OF A COMMENT BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE'RE GETTING CLOSER THERE TO THE END OF OUR YOU KNOW, IN 2026 IS KIND OF WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT WHERE AND ONE OF THE CONCERNS WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST IS WITH THAT CURBSIDE CLEAN UP PORTION OF IT THAT WITH THE JUST THE CHANGING THE MARKET AND BEING ABLE TO GET THAT WORKED IN TO THAT PLAN THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GET THAT INTO OUR LAST PLAN. I'M JUST CONCERNED AS WE KIND MOVE FORWARD INTO THAT NEW CONTRACT THAT THAT IS GOING TO BE ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO TRY TO THAT IN AT THE RATE THAT WE'RE WE'RE GETTING IT AND THAT MIGHT BE A MAJOR DRIVER. I'M JUST THAT MIGHT BE A DRIVER OF LIFTING SO I'M JUST CONCERNED I KNOW WE'VE DONE SOME WORK TO TRY TO CREATE SOME WAYS IN TO TRY TO COLLECT SIMILAR TO I KNOW SOME OF THEIR CITIES I THINK MINNEAPOLIS A DIFFERENT WAYS OF YOU COLLECT THAT EACH EACH MONTH SO I JUST YOU KNOW AS WE'RE LOOKING THAT I'M JUST HOPING AS WE CAN CONSIDER THAT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ADDITIONAL OPTIONS YOU KNOW MAYBE IT'S MORE JUST EVERY TWO YEARS. I MEAN I DON'T I DON'T REALLY WANT TO DO THAT BUT I JUST RECOGNIZED THAT THAT ONE TIME PICKUP IS A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF AND JUST WELL WITHOUT HAVING THE THE BACK END LOADERS HAVING TO GO OUT THERE. SO I JUST I JUST IT'S MORE OF A COMMENT THAN IT IS REALLY A QUESTION AND IT JUST A CONCERN SO AND THEN I'M SURE LAURA IS WATCHING OR YOU'LL PASS THOSE COMMENTS AND I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT AND IT'S BEEN ONGOING COMMENTS AND AND I DID HEAR WE'D BE HEARING MORE IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS HERE ABOUT THE CONTRACT NEGOTIATION SO ANYTHING ELSE COUNCIL ALL RIGHT. YOU SEE ON SCREEN IN FRONT OF YOU THE THE RECAP OF THE PROPOSED 2025 UTILITY RATE INCREASES WATER AND WASTEWATER AT 3%, STORMWATER AT FIVE AND SOLID WASTE AT 2.6%. COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS I'M JUST THINKING IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS WHAT IS THE PERCENTAGE IF YOU KNOW OF WRITE OFF AND THAT THE UTILITIES HAVE THE INCREASE FOR THE LAST PART AS LAST FIVE YEARS MAYOR COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS SO I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE IT IN PRESENTATION HERE.  LET'S SEE .  I DO I LIKE THAT SO THE HERE'S WHAT THE WATER RATE INCREASES WERE OVER THE SINCE 2019 IT'S A LITTLE HIGHER THAN WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING FOR 25 THERE'S WATER 39% AND THEN WASTEWATER AND ALSO STORMWATER.  SO IT'S ABOUT 40% INCREASE IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS. RIGHT?  WELL FOR UTILITIES, YEAH NINE EIGHT 1721 NO NO I0I SEE YES YES YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH WELL IT SOUNDS PRETTY HIGH NOTE TO BE CLEAR IT WAS IT'S NOT A 40% INCREASE BECAUSE THOSE NUMBERS DO NOT YOU DON'T ADD THEM UP TO TO GET THEIR TOTAL PERCENTAGE INCREASE TOM JUST I MEAN ANY QUESTIONS ANY FURTHER COMMENTS SO I'LL JUST WRAP UP THIS IS WHAT'S COMING SO COURSE TONIGHT'S THE PRELIMINARY LOOK THE COUNCIL HAS IT WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING FOR A 25 UTILITY RATES AND THEN ON THE 31ST THAT IS WHEN WE WOULD SEND THE RATES TO THIS ON CURRENT FOR PUBLICATION THEIR DEADLINE AND THEN ON NOVEMBER 7TH THOSE RATES WOULD BE PUBLISHED IN THE SUN AND ON THE CITY'S WORLDS WEBSITE FOR PUBLIC ACCESS AND THEN WE WOULD BE BACK NOVEMBER 18TH WOULD BE IS WHAT WE'RE PLANNING FOR THE OFFICIAL 2025 UTILITY RATES PUBLIC HEARING.  ALL RIGHT I THINK YOUR NEXT SLIDE SAYS DISCUSSION BUT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING THE WHOLE TIME SO WE'RE GOOD TO GO COUNCIL IS THERE ANYTHING?  VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. WE WILL MOVE ON. I WOULDN'T GO FAR.  I THINK YOU'RE FEATURED IN THIS NEXT ONE I'M SURE. MAYBE NOT.  LET'S TURN THIS OVER TO KIM. YES, I'LL BE I'LL BE CLOSE BY. OKAY. OUR NEXT ITEM IS ITEM 5.3. IT'S OUR BUDGET DISCUSSION REGARDING THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT KIM BURGIN, THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR IS HERE ON THIS CONVERSATION FOR THE FIRST TIME. YES. MARIN COUNCILOR UM, I'M HERE TONIGHT JUST TO SHARE THE OVERVIEW OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FOR DISCUSSION.  I'LL GIVE YOU THE COMPARISONS BETWEEN LAST YEAR THIS COMING YEAR OR THIS YEAR AND THE FOLLOWING YEAR AS WELL AS SOME DETAILS ON WHERE WE'RE SEEING INCREASES AND DECREASES. AND I'LL TALK ABOUT STAFFING AND I'M SOME THINKING FOR NEXT YEAR IN TERMS OF NEW INITIATIVES THIS IS THE OVERVIEW OF THE DEPARTMENT'S BUDGET THIS BUDGET DOES NOT INCLUDE ANYTHING FOR THE HRA AND THE PORT WHICH IS INCLUDED IN THE DEPARTMENT AND THIS FOCUSES ON ALL THE CITY ASSOCIATED WITH THE DEPARTMENT'S ACTIVITIES AS YOU SEE WE ARE PROJECTING A DECREASE IN REVENUES BY ABOUT 14% AND THEN AN INCREASE OF SPENDING BY ABOUT 5%. AND I'LL JUST GO THE DETAILS THE BREAKDOWN OF THE BUDGET CHANGES BETWEEN 2024 AND 2025 AS PROPOSED.  THE BIGGEST CHANGE IS THIS PROJECTED REDUCTION IN PERMANENT LICENSING REVENUE AND AS IS TYPICAL I THINK FOR THE CITY WE TEND TO BE A LITTLE BIT CONSERVATIVE IN ESTIMATING OUR PERMIT REVENUE EARLY IN THE YEAR AND THEN REVISITED AGAIN IN THE FALL AS YOU'RE MOVING THROUGH THE BUDGET CYCLE AS GLENN SAID EARLIER AND I'M SURE WE'VE BEEN SAYING FOR A WHILE HERE WE ALL KNOW THAT THE LEVEL OF ACTIVITY OF CONSTRUCTION THAT WE'VE BEEN SEEING OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS IS VERY STRONG AND SO JUST BEING CAREFUL NOT OVER PREDICT BUILDING INTO NEXT YEAR AS THINGS HAVE TIGHTENED UP SOME IN THE BUILDING SPACE I WILL SAY ONE OF THE THINGS THAT GLENN HAS BEEN SAYING RECENTLY IS THAT THE PHONE'S NOT RINGING AS MUCH WITH DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY. PEOPLE INQUIRING ABOUT DEVELOPMENT AND SO THAT'S AN EARLY INDICATOR THAT PEOPLE MAY NOT MAKE AS MUCH INVESTMENTS IN TERMS OF NEW DEVELOPMENT NEXT YEAR.  THE OTHER THINGS THAT YOU SEE ON THIS CHARTER ARE ARE GOING ARE PROJECTED INCREASES IN SPENDING STARTING WITH SALARIES AND BENEFITS. THERE'S NO SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES TO STAFF BUT THAT THE INCREASE IN SALARIES AND BENEFITS FOR BUDGET THE ENTIRE BUDGET AND WE ALSO SEE INTERNAL CHARGES GOING UP AS YOU'VE WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS BUDGETS WE HAVE SOME MODEST INCREASES IN TRAININGS AND PROFESSIONAL SERVICES THAT GET US TO THE 1.2 MILLION.  THIS CHART IS JUST A REMINDER OF WHAT COMPRISES THE COMMUTER DEVELOPMENT.  WE HAVE SIX DIVISIONS THE ASSESSING GROUP THE INSPECTIONS ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH WE SAW TONIGHT THEN A JURY AND PORT WHICH I ALREADY INDICATED IS NOT PART THIS BUDGET PRESENTATION TONIGHT AS WELL AS THE PLANNERS THAT YOU SEE FREQUENTLY UP HERE.  SO AS I SAID THERE'S NOT SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES WITH STAFFING THIS COMING YEAR I DID HAVE AND HEAR THAT AND YOU ADDRESSED IT TONIGHT WITH RENTAL PRESENTATION THAT IF WE WANTED TO CONTINUE FREQUENCY THE WAY WE HAVE THEM FOR THE RENTAL PROGRAM YOU COULD ANTICIPATE IN FUTURE NEEDING TO INCREASE THE RENTAL INSPECTION TEAM IN ORDER MAINTAIN THOSE FREQUENCIES. GIVEN THE AMOUNT OF RENTAL HOUSING WE'VE BUILT IN THE PAST 5 TO 10 YEARS. AND SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND AS WE MAKE PLANS FOR THE FUTURE AND WE CERTAINLY WILL TAKE YOUR FEEDBACK LOOK AT THAT AS PART OF OUR ANALYSIS FOR FUTURE FOR THOSE GROUPS NEW INITIATIVES WE AREN'T PROPOSING ANY SUBSTANTIAL NEW INITIATIVES IN THE COMMUNITY DEPARTMENT THIS COMING YEAR.  I JUST DID WANT TO MAKE A NOTE THAT SOME OF THE STRATEGIC INITIATIVES THAT THE CITY HAS UNDERTAKEN THIS PAST YEAR THAT THIS IS THEIR FIRST YEAR OF THOSE PROGRAMS WITH YOU INTEND TO CONTINUE THOSE PROGRAMS IF WE CAN HAVE WOMEN BLOOMINGTON INTERNSHIP PROGRAM AND ALSO THE BLOOMINGTON ECONOMIC PARTNERSHIP AND WE ARE FUNDING THOSE PROGRAMS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH OTHER FUNDING SOURCES THE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES FUND AND ALSO THE PORT I WILL SHARE THAT WE MIGHT HAVE SOME STAFFING DISCUSSIONS AROUND THEM IN BLOOMINGTON FOR NEXT YEAR. SO THERE'S MORE TO COME ON THAT. AND THEN THE OTHER THING I'LL JUST PREVIEW IS THAT WITH THE CONDITIONS THAT WE'RE SEEING PARKING RAMPS IN WE HAVE A COUPLE OF PARKING RAMPS THAT HAVE REALLY STRUGGLED AND HAVEN'T BEEN PROPERLY MAINTAINED AND IN THINKING ABOUT THAT I THINK THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSIONS IN THE PAST ABOUT IMPLEMENTING OUR RAMP INSPECTIONS PROGRAM HERE AT THE CITY AND SO JUST PREVIEWING THAT WE ARE WORKING ON DRAFTING UP SOMETHING FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AT A FUTURE MEETING AND THEN IN THE AREA OF REVENUE ENHANCEMENTS AND THIS IS THE NUMBER FROM OPTION ONE I GUESS I PRESUME MAYBE THAT WAS GOING TO BE THE PROPOSAL THAT THE THE SO I THINK TONIGHT ADOPTED OPTION TWO WHICH WOULD BRING THE PROJECTED REVENUE THAT WE WOULD BE PUTTING INTO THE BUDGET TO $287,000.  SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CURRENTLY ISN'T IN THE BUDGET AS PROPOSED.  WE'LL WORK WITH FINANCE TO GET THAT INCLUDED NOW THAT YOU HAVE APPROVED THOSE CHANGES TO THE FEES, WE ALSO ARE LOOKING AT SOME FEE PERMIT INCREASES SOME SMALL INCREASES IN PERMITTING AND PLANNING BUT THOSE ARE NOT GOING TO BE SUBSTANTIAL BUDGET CHANGES JUST YOU KNOW THAT'S PART OF OUR MAINTENANCE OUR FEE PROGRAMS AND THEN AS I MENTIONED IF WE DO A RENTAL A RAMP INSPECTION PROGRAM, WE WOULD HAVE AN ASSOCIATED FEE AND THEN ALSO ON THE SLIDE IS JUST A REMINDER THAT THE CITY HAS HAD A LONG HISTORY OF PURSUING GRANT MONEY TO SUPPORT DIFFERENT ELEMENTS OF WORK. SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO THAT.  AND THEN MY FINAL SLIDE HERE IS JUST THE RESPONSE TO THE QUESTION AROUND WHAT ABOUT POTENTIAL SERVICE REDUCTIONS. I WOULD SAY THAT ONE OF THE BIGGEST SHIFTS THAT THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT HAS MADE HAS BEEN SHIFTING MORE SERVICES ONLINE AND THAT'S ALLOWED THE CITY TO MAINTAIN AND PROVIDE SERVICES BOTH IN THE WAY THAT CUSTOMERS WANT SERVICES AND ALSO TO BE ABLE TO KIND OF DO MORE PROGRAMS AND ACTIVITIES WITH THE SAME AMOUNT OF EFFORT WITHOUT INCREASING STAFFING IN A PROPORTIONATE WAY.  AND SO WE'LL CONTINUE ON THAT TRACK. THAT ALL SAID, WE WILL CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THE WALK IN CUSTOMER SERVICE FOR FOLKS THAT WOULD PREFER TO COME IN TO CITY HALL. SO THE COUNTERS THAT WAS OPENED WERE CONTINUING STAFF THE COUNTER FOR WALK INS SO THAT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE ABOUT DEVELOPMENT THANK YOU VERY MUCH COUNSEL FOR QUESTIONS OH COUNCILMEMBER CARTER I WAS WONDERING WHY YOU WERE POINTING DOWN COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO COUNCILMEMBER CARTER THANK YOU, MAYOR SO JUST TO CLARIFY SO YOU SAID THAT THIS IS NOT INCLUDE THE OR THE HRA BUDGETS AND SO WHATEVER YOU SHOWED US THE DETAILED BREAKDOWN BUDGET CHANGES LIKE SALARY AND BENEFITS INCREASE THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY OF THE HRA AIRPORT STAFF THAT YOU INCLUDED IN THAT OR CHART CORRECT?  THAT'S CORRECT. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER OKAY.  UM, AND THEN FOR THE PORT THE HRA BUDGETS THOSE WILL COME TO US IN A COUPLE OF COUNCIL MEETINGS I ASSUME AND THEN FOR THE PORT BUDGET I GUESS I'M CURIOUS IS THAT WHERE WE'LL SEE SOME OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN THAT'S CREATED ? WILL WE SEE ANY KIND OF NEW INITIATIVES OR RECOMMENDATIONS PROPOSALS REFLECTED THE PORT BUDGET THEN MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBER CARTER THE PORT BUDGETS HAVE ALREADY BEEN PREPARED AND PROVIDED SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S PLANS TO PRESENT THOSE AT THE COUNCIL. I DON'T THINK THAT'S BEEN HISTORICALLY WHAT HAS HAPPENED BUT.  CERTAINLY IF ONE OF THE FINANCE FOLKS WANT TO CORRECT ME, WE CAN THOSE BUDGETS HAVE ALREADY BEEN PROVIDED AND I THINK THEY WERE INCLUDED IN A PREVIOUS AND SO AS FAR AS I KNOW I DON'T ANTICIPATE THE PORT OR THE HRA MAKING ADJUSTMENTS TO WHAT THEY'VE PROPOSED THROUGH THE PROCESS TODAY THEY WERE CALLED HRT BUT I GUESS DIDN'T RECALL THE PORT SO KEEN SO WHEN WOULD WE WHEN WOULD THERE BE BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS FOR WHATEVER IS BEING IN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENTS. WELL MR. FERRUCCI I THINK CAN CHIME IN HERE MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS WE DO BRING THE PORT AND HRA THROUGH CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO SIGN OFF ON THE LEVY. YEAH RIGHT. AND SO THOSE BODIES DETERMINE THEIR BUDGET AND THEIR EXPENDITURES BUT THE COUNCIL HAS TO APPROVE THE LEVY SO THOSE WILL COME THROUGH I WE USUALLY DO THAT THE FIRST MEETING IN DECEMBER SO IT'LL BE END OF NOVEMBER OR EARLY DECEMBER WHEN THEY COME THROUGH. OKAY AND SO THEN SO THEN CAN I GO BACK TO THE QUESTION IT GOES THE MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE STRATEGIC FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SHOULD BE DONE THIS FALL AND WE WILL SEE I'M ASSUMING WE'LL SEE SOME BUDGET RECOMMENDATIONS RELATED TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PRIORITIES.  AND THEN I GUESS I'M JUST CURIOUS.  WELL YEAH SO SO WILL WE SEE MORE I GUESS I'M WONDERING ABOUT LIKE WILL THERE BE BUDGET IMPACTS BASED ON THAT PLAN? MR.. MR. MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS COUNCIL COUNCILMEMBER CARTER FOR THE GENERAL FUND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BUDGET AND WHAT MS. BERGERON'S PRESENTING TONIGHT THE MY UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE PORT AUTHORITY HAS APPROVED ISN'T GOING TO AFFECT THIS BUDGET AND SINCE MOST OF THE WORK RELATED TO THAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC THAT WILL BE COMING THROUGH WILL BE WITHIN THE PORT THAT'S WHERE THOSE COSTS WILL BE ACCOUNTED FOR AND I WANT TO GET TOO AHEAD OF THE MESSAGING THERE SINCE I WASN'T IN THE PORT ABOUT THE BUDGET, I KNOW THEY'RE ANTICIPATING ACTIVITIES RELATED TO THE STRATEGIC PLAN BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THEY HAVE SPECIFICALLY ITEMS BECAUSE THE PLAN HAS NOT BEEN FINALIZED YET.  OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THAT'S HELPFUL.  COUNCILMEMBER NELSON.  YEAH. THANK YOU, MAYOR. AT SOME POINT PREVIOUSLY I DON'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHEN WE APPROVED A TEMPORARY POSITION IN COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FOR AN ASSISTANT BUILDING INSPECTION CHIEF OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE. AT THE TIME I ASK THE QUESTION WAS THAT GOING TO BECOME A PERMANENT POSITION AND SO NOW I WILL ASK DID IT BECOME A PERMANENT POSITION?  MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBER NELSON MY UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE HAVE ADJUSTED WITH THE IS THE INSPECTIONS IS THERE WERE THERE PREVIOUSLY WERE TWO KIND OF SUPERVISOR POSITIONS WITHIN THAT TEAM AND THE BUILDING OFFICIAL AND SO WHERE WE MAINTAINED THE ASSISTANT BUILDING OFFICIAL AND THEN REDUCED AND NO LONGER WILL REFILLED A DIFFERENT TITLE POSITION. SO WE HAVE MAINTAINED KIND OF THE SAME STAFFING.  THEY'VE JUST BEEN ADJUSTED IN TERMS OF WHAT THE ROLE IS.  OKAY. I WANT TO JUST TAKE A LOOK AT THE SPECIFICS OF THAT JUST TO BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WAS A CONCERN WHEN WE WHEN WE PASSED IT.  SO BUT THANK YOU FOR THAT INFORMATION. YOU KNOW, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILWOMAN NELSON LET ME JUST ASK THE QUESTION IN A DIFFERENT WAY. SO WHAT I HEARD, MS.. BERGGREN SAY IS THAT HEAD COUNT IS THE SAME SUPER NUMBER OF SUPERVISORS AS SAME AS JUST THE SPECIFIC JOBS AND THE DESCRIPTION OF THE JOBS IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, CORRECT? THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. WE WE DO HAVE ONE OTHER KIND OF LOWER LEVEL SUPERVISOR WITHIN THE TEAM. BUT IN TERMS OF LEADERSHIP THERE'S THE TWO POSITIONS.  WE HAD GONE TO THREE AND WE'RE BACK AT TWO LEADERSHIP ROLES. SO SO MY QUESTION IS SPECIFICALLY THE SAME NUMBER OF PEOPLE AS PRIOR TO US APPROVING THAT THE TEMPORARY ONE WE WENT WE REDUCED BACK TO WHAT IT HAD BEEN ZANTAC YOU'RE IT.  I'M GOING TO GO BACK AND CONFIRM SO THANK YOU. WELL, BEFORE I GIVE YOU THAT ANSWER BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF MOVING PIECES. YES, THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S RIGHT. I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME BUT I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE BUDGET HERE, WHAT YOU SEE THOUGH IS A REFLECTION HOLD THE LINE ON STAFF AND SO WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THAT PREVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, WORKING ON THE STAFF THAT HAD BEEN BUDGETED FOR 2024, THAT'S UNCHANGED GOING INTO 2025. SO COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO QUESTIONED I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE WE'RE DODGING THE NOT ON PURPOSE BUT WE'RE NOT ANSWERING COUNCILMEMBER NELSON'S QUESTION SO MUCH RIGHT.  IT WAS A TEMPORARY POSITION. THE IMPLICATION OF TEMPORARY MEANS THAT WENT AWAY BUT IF YOU'RE CARRYING IT OVER IT'S NOT GONE AWAY.  SO THE QUESTION IS DID IT ACTUALLY WAS IT ACTUALLY A TEMPORARY POSITION OR YOU ACTUALLY CARRYING IT INTO 2025 WHICH MEANS IT'S A LONGER A LONGER TERM TEMPORARY POSITION MEANING IT'S GOT ANOTHER YEAR OR TWO. IT AND IT'S STILL TEMPORARY OR YOU'VE MADE IT A PERMANENT POSITION .  I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING, MR. MAYOR. THAT MAKES SENSE. IT DOES. OKAY. I JUST WANT TO GO BACK AND CONFIRM. YEAH, YEAH, OF COURSE.  OF COURSE AT THE TIME THAT WE BROUGHT IT THROUGH AND WE'RE HERE TODAY. OKAY. YEAH, TOTALLY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. VERY GOOD.  THANK YOU MUCH FOR STICKING WITH US LATE TONIGHT.  SO COUNCIL THAT IS TWO MORE OF OUR BUDGET DISCUSSIONS THAT WE HAVE HAD AND WE'VE GOT A NUMBER MORE COMING UP BETWEEN NOW AND DECEMBER BUT ALL ARE INFORMATIVE AND I THINK IT'S IT'S DEFINITELY TIME WELL SPENT AS WE THROUGH THESE EACH YEAR AND I'M TRYING TO MAKE SENSE OF IT ALL AND COME UP WITH THE BEST ANSWER. MOVING ON TO ITEM 5.4 OUR CITY COUNCIL POLICY AND ISSUE UPDATE AND I WILL KICK OFF RECAPPING OUR LISTENING SESSION EARLIER THIS EVENING WE HEARD FROM SALLY NESS AGAIN THIS WEEK MS. NESS HAS HAD A CONCERN. HER NAME APPEARED IN BLOOMINGTON POLICE DEPARTMENT CALL RECORDS BACK IN 2019 A HANDFUL OF THEM AND SHE'D BEEN ASKING WHY AND WE ASKED CHIEF HODGES AND, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IF THEY COULD ANSWER THAT QUESTION AS TO WHY CHIEF HODGES HE WASN'T ON THE ON THE DEPARTMENT OBVIOUSLY IN 2019 I ASKED SOME OFFICERS WHO MAY KNOWN AND THEY COULD NOT RECALL AND SO THE ANSWER TO MS. NESS THAT THERE'S NO DEFINITIVE ANSWER NO ONE COULD REMEMBER OR RECALL EXACTLY WHY HER NAME APPEARED IN THE BLOOMINGTON POLICE CALL RECORDS IN 2019 AND AS CHIEF HODGES INDICATED, THAT WAS THAT THAT WAS THE END OF THE THAT WAS THE END OF IT WERE THE END OF THE TOPIC AS WE WERE WE HAD SAID SHE ASKED A QUESTION AND WE ANSWERED THE QUESTION AND AND THAT'S WHAT WE DID WITH THIS ONE IN PARTICULAR WE HEARD FROM ERIC AARON AND HE OWNS OUR AUTOMOTIVE RELATED SERVICES INC AT 1700 EAST OLD SHAKOPEE ROAD AND HAS ISSUES WITH HEALTH AND SAFETY AND IT WAS A BACK AND FORTH AS THEY ARE PART OF CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND THEY HAD SOME REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY HAD NOT MET.  THEY HAVE SOME ISSUES WITH THE THE STANDARDS BOTH IN THE UNDER IN THE AREA AND IN THE YARD AND IN THE FENCED AREA AND SO ON. WE AGREED TO CONTINUE THE DISCUSSION.  I THINK THERE ARE SOME UNANSWERED QUESTIONS AND I THINK WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS TRY AND GET MR. AARON AND HIS AND THE FOLKS WHO WORK WITH AND ALONGSIDE HIM TRYING TO GET THEM TO A GOOD POSITIVE OUTCOME HERE. BUT IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME WORK TO DO SO AND SO I'VE ASKED MR. AARON TO COME BACK AND TO REACH OUT FOR MORE CONVERSATION ON ALL OF THIS. WE ALSO HEARD FROM DORI SHANNON AND BRIAN LAWLOR NEIGHBORS TO TOMMY'S CAR WASH ON OLD SHAKOPEE ROAD.  THEY HAD SOME SIGNIFICANT CONCERNS ABOUT THE LIGHTS AND THE NOISE COME OUT OF THE THE CAR WASH AND THE OPERATIONAL ASPECTS THAT ARE AFFECTING THE NEIGHBORS AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY BROUGHT UP WERE I THINK NEW AND I THINK WE HAD HEARD BEFORE ABOUT THE LIGHTS WE HAD HEARD IN THE PAST ABOUT NOISE ISSUES AND THEY ALSO SUGGESTED POSSIBLY A FENCE TO BLOCK SOME OF THE LIGHTS. AND I THINK THAT I RECALL IF WE TALKED ABOUT A FENCE DURING THAT CONVERSATION I RECALL SO AGAIN THAT'S SOME MORE FOLLOW UP I THINK FOR FOR DORI AND FOR BRIAN AND WE'RE GOING TO TRY AND FIGURE OUT WE GET TO A RESOLUTION TO THAT ONE AS WELL ONCE AGAIN, COUPLE NEW FOLKS TALKING TO US ABOUT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT ISSUES AND SO THAT WAS OUR LISTENING SESSION FOR THIS EVENING AND AND THAT'S WHERE WE ARE I DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD TO THE COUNCIL LISTENING SESSION. MR. RUBY, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD?  I DO NOT, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS COUNCIL DO WE HAVE ANYTHING TO BRING FORWARD COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO TWO VERY HOPEFULLY VERY GOOD THINGS. ONE IS JUST A RECAP FROM EARLIER TONIGHT WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT MAKING SURE WE'VE MADE A PUT A PIN IN HAVING A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA INCLUDING THE NOTION OF SUPPORT STANDARDS FOR OUR OUR GROUP HOMES AND ESPECIALLY HERE IN BLOOMINGTON. I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT.  I'M MORE CONCERNED THAN I EVER HAVE BEEN ON THAT BECAUSE WE JUST DON'T HAVE A POINT OF VIEW ON WHAT THE STANDARD OF IS EXPECTED. AND AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT OUR RULES ARE FOR HELPING TO ENFORCE THAT. I MEAN OBVIOUSLY AS MS. MOUA MENTIONED, WE HAVE YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO MEAN HELP MAINTAIN THE BUILDING FACILITY. RIGHT. BUT THE OPERATIONS OF THE OF THE SERVICES THERE YOU KNOW, WE WERE BLIND TO WHAT WE CAN AND CANNOT DO THERE AND THAT SEEMS DISCONCERTING SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE AH HAD BEEN COUNTY FOLKS CAN HELP US WITH OR WHATEVER BUT I'M HOPING WE CAN MAKE THAT A PRIORITY I WILL SAY WELL FIRST OF ALL I'LL ASK MR. RUGGIE WHEN GOING TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION ABOUT OUR LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES BECAUSE I KNOW WE'VE GOT A FEW OTHER THINGS THAT MIGHT NEED TO GO ON THERE AS WELL. YEAH, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS ACTUALLY OUR TEAM THAT'S WORKING ON THE LEGISLATIVE PLATFORM MEETING TOMORROW MORNING SO THE TIMING IS GOOD THEN WE'LL FOLLOW UP AND CONVERSATION TOMORROW AND THEN REPORT BACK ON THE COUNCIL. BACK TO THE COUNCIL.  WE TYPICALLY BRING THAT IN FOR THE PLATFORM AND THE PRIORITIES AND FOR DISCUSSION. THE LATTER OF NOVEMBER OR EARLY IN DECEMBER AND THAT'S THE SCHEDULE WE'RE ON RIGHT NOW TO OKAY THE OTHER ONE AND I WILL SAY IF I COULD JUST ADD ALSO COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO I WAS IN THE ONE OF THE COMMITTEE HOUSE COMMITTEE WHERE THEY DISCUSSED THIS VERY ISSUE AND IT WAS INTERESTING THE THE TACT THEY TOOK BECAUSE APPARENTLY THERE THERE ENOUGH I WON'T SAY A LOT I DON'T EVEN KNOW THE NUMBER BUT THERE ARE ENOUGH CITIES THAT IMPOSE STRINGENT REQUIREMENTS ON GROUP HOMES WITH THE INTENT OF MAKING SURE THAT NO GROUP HOMES CAN OPEN IN THEIR COMMUNITY. AND SO THAT WAS WHAT THE LEGISLATIVE INTENT WAS TO TRY AND AVOID THAT. BUT I THINK AS YOU SAID, THERE ARE CONCERNS THERE'S NUANCE, THERE'S THERE'S REASON I THINK TO TO CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THIS AND FIND THE THE BEST PATH FORWARD BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WHAT WE'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW IS THE BEST PATH FORWARD. IT JUST CONCERNS ME THAT ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS WE DON'T HAVE ANY VISIBILITY ON BEHALF OF OUR THE RESIDENTS OF YOU KNOW, THE CITIZENS THAT LIVE HERE.  WE DON'T HAVE ANY VISIBILITY INTO THEIR HEALTH AND WELFARE AND WE THE MAJORITY THE COMPLAINTS THAT WE'VE HEARD SEEM TO BE COMING FROM A PLACE OF IT'S NOT THE RESIDENTS BUT IT'S THE PEOPLE WHO ARE MANAGING THOSE PROPERTIES WHO ARE POTENTIALLY THE BALL. SO IT SEEMS LIKE SOME EYES ON THAT PRIZE BE HAD I DON'T KNOW. ANYWAY THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO SAY WAS ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT AND MAYBE WE CAN ADD THIS TO OUR AGENDA ITEM FOR OUR DISTRICT ANY KIND OF A STRATEGIC SESSION WE MIGHT HAVE IN THE FUTURE POTENTIALLY IS THAT I'VE GOTTEN I'VE HAD A NUMBER OF ONE OR TWO HOUR CONVERSATIONS WITH RESIDENTS AND AND ONE OF THE BIG MISPERCEPTIONS THAT PEOPLE HAVE OF COUNCIL IS THAT BY THE TIME THE PUBLIC COMMENT HAPPENS WHERE WE'RE MAKING A DECISION ON SOMETHING, RIGHT? SO THE PUBLIC COMMENT IS LIKE PART OF THE LAST MEETING THAT WE'VE HAD BUT WE'VE HAD THESE FIVE OR SIX STUDY SESSIONS SOMETIMES AHEAD OF TIME AND THAT'S HOW WE GET TO OUR DECISION. SO WE'RE NOT JUST BLANKET MAKING SEVEN NO DECISIONS WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THE THE DISCUSSION PRIOR TO IT THERE'S AN OPEN QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD HAVE SOME PUBLIC COMMENT OPPORTUNITIES EARLIER IN THE PROCESS SO THAT PEOPLE CAN GO ALONG FOR THE RIDE BECAUSE WE OFTENTIMES DON'T HAVE ANYBODY PAYING ATTENTION OUR STUDY SESSIONS AND THEN AT THE END OF THE LINE WHEN THE PUBLIC COMMENT COMES UP THERE'S THIS BIG YOU KNOW, RIGMAROLE AND GET UPSET LIKE AS IF IT'S THE FIRST TIME THEY'VE EVER HEARD OF IT. WELL IF WE A PUBLIC COMMENT OPPORTUNITY DURING STUDY SESSION WE COULD GET SOME OF THAT PUBLIC FEEDBACK EARLIER ON IT MIGHT BE BENEFICIAL TO US AND ALSO OPEN US UP FOR INFORMATION ACTUALLY COULD BE USEFUL FOR US TO BE MAKING SOME DECISIONS AS OPPOSED TO HEARING SOMETHING BUT FOR THE MOST PART HAVING OUR MINDS MADE UP OR HAVING YOU KNOW SOME SURPRISE HAPPEN AT THE AT THE LAST MINUTE THAT KIND THROWS EVERYTHING OFF ON ITS SCHEDULE BECAUSE WE'VE LEARNED SOME INFORMATION FROM INTERESTED PARTIES. SO THROWING THAT OUT THERE SOMETHING TO PUT IN OUR STRATEGIC CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HOW WE MIGHT WANT TO CONTINUE ADD SOME TRANSPARENCY TO THAT PROCESS. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER CARTER. I THINK I MEAN THAT'S A GOOD ONE FOR ME. WE LIKE THE STRATEGIC RETREAT STRATEGIC RETREAT. I MEAN MY CONCERN THERE IS THAT LIKE WE'RE ALREADY IN MEETINGS UNTIL 11:00 AND SO HOW DO WE INCORPORATE MULTIPLE PUBLIC HEARINGS INTO MULTIPLE MORE ITEMS? RIGHT. IT'S JUST LIKE I DON'T KNOW I HAVE A CONCERN THERE ESPECIALLY THERE ARE OTHER WAYS FOR PEOPLE TO ENGAGE LIKE LISTENING SESSIONS AND EMAILING AND SOCIAL MEDIA AND LET'S TALK BLOOMINGTON.  I DON'T KNOW I SO I WOULD SAY IN MY INITIAL MY INITIAL THOUGHT IS JUST LIKE WE'VE DONE A LOT TO INCREASE OVER THE YEARS. I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA BUT FROM A TIMING PERSPECTIVE HAVE SOME CONCERNS. BUT AGAIN I THINK THAT'S A GOOD CONVERSATION FOR US TO HAVE IN OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING RETREAT AND I AGREE IT WOULD TAKE SOME EFFECTIVE AGENDA MANAGEMENT TO MAKE SURE WE CAN GET ALL THIS IN . I WOULD AGREE THERE'S THERE'S THAT TOO.  YEAH. COUNCILMEMBER MOMENT. OH, I'M SORRY OH JUST AS A REMINDER FOLKS WHEN YOU'RE NOT IN YOU DON'T HAVE YOUR MIKE,  YOU CAN'T NOBODY CAN HEAR YOU. SO JUST IT'S A GOOD REMINDER FOR ME BEING ONLINE TONIGHT BECAUSE ANYTIME ANYTHING SAID WITHOUT THE MY GOD I'M SORRY COUNCIL MEMBER MY MIND WAS THAT WAS JUST ME BEING SNARKY SO IT WASN'T WORTH YOU HEARING I PROMISE IT WAS JUST A SIDEBAR. YEAH. SORRY WE'VE FORGOTTEN ALL THOSE WE LEARNED DURING COVID SO JUST JEST COUNCILMEMBER CARTER. YOU KNOW WE ALWAYS COULD EXPAND THE HOURS OF OUR MEETINGS, YOU KNOW, LIKE WE USED TO HAVE IN THE PAST IN OH I JUST WANTED TO SAY ONE THING IN SERIOUSNESS JUST TO REMIND FOLKS TO GET OUT AND VOTE AND THEN YOU KNOW EARLIER COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT IT PAST COUNCIL'S YOUR POINT OF VIEW ABOUT PLANNING PEOPLE HAD THAT SAME ON THIS ON THIS JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A HISTORY OF THAT OF FOLKS NOT WANTING TO GIVE THAT UP BECAUSE A LOT OF FOLKS HAD A PLANNING BACKGROUND SO JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THERE'S A HISTORY OF THAT SO IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE COUNCIL SEEING NOTHING WE HAVE COMPLETED OUR AGENDA FOR THIS EVENING I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN SO THAT MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS TO ADJOURN THIS EVENING NO FURTHER MISS MERCER CARTER AND MUIR I LOWMAN I NELSON RIVAS D'ALESSANDRO MAYOR BUSSEY I MOTION CARRY SEVEN ZERO WE ARE DURING THIS EVENING THANKS SO MUCH COUNCIL FOR YOUR WORK TONIGHT THANKS FOR THE STAFF AND THANKS TO EVERYBODY WHO STUCK IT OUT WITH US ONLINE WATCHING PARTICIPATING THIS EVENING EVERYBODY HAVE A GREAT TUESDAY