##VIDEO ID:1_WimMrqhns## .  MY NAME IS BRIAN BROWN CITY COUNCIL FOR DISTRICT FOUR AND I AM THE CHAIR OF THE BOSTON CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE ON WAYS AND MEANS.  TODAY'S SEPTEMBER SIX, 2020 FOR THIS HEARING IS BEING RECORDED. IT IS ALSO BEING LIVESTREAMED AT BOSTON.COM.  BACKSLASH CITY DASH COUNCIL DASH TV AND BROADCAST ON XFINITY CHANNEL EIGHT RCN 1082 AND FILES CHANNEL 964 WRITTEN COMMENTS MAY BE SENT TO THE COMMITTEE EMAIL AT C C IWM BOSTON DOT GOV IT WILL BE MADE PART OF THE RECORD AND AVAILABLE TO ALL COUNCILORS. PUBLIC TESTIMONY WILL BE TAKEN AT THE END OF THIS HEARING.  INDIVIDUALS WILL BE CALLED ON IN THE ORDER IN WHICH THEY SIGNED UP WILL HAVE 2 MINUTES TO TESTIFY. IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN TESTIFYING IN PERSON PLEASE ADD YOUR NAME TO THE SIGN UP SHEET NEAR THE ENTRANCE OF THE CHAMBER. IF YOU ARE LOOKING TO TESTIFY VIRTUALLY PLEASE EMAIL OUR CENTRAL STAFF LIAISON SHANE PAC AT SHANE AS H H.A. SCOTT PAC C AT BOSTON.COM F FOR THE LINK IN YOUR NAME WILL BE ADDED TO THE LIST. TODAY'S HEARING IS ON DOCKET NUMBER 1163. MESSAGE IN ORDER FOR YOUR APPROVAL IN ORDER TO REDUCE TO 525 APPROPRIATION FOR THE RESERVE FOR COLLECTIVE BARGAINING BY 187,373 $73 TO PROVIDE FUNDING FOR THE BOSTON POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR THE FY 25 INCREASES CONTAINED WITHIN THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF BOSTON AND THE BOSTON POLICE SCHOOL TRAFFIC SUPERVISORS ASSOCIATION INC. DOCKET NUMBER 1164 MESSAGE IN ORDER FOR A SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION ORDER FOR THE BOSTON POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT FY 25 IN THE AMOUNT OF $187,373 TO COVER THE FBI 25 COST ITEMS CONTAINED WITHIN A COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF BOSTON AND A BOSTON POLICE SCHOOL TRAFFIC SUPERVISORS ASSOCIATION INC. THE TERMS OF THE CONTRACT ARE SEPTEMBER 1ST, 2023 TO AUGUST 31ST, 2027 TO MAKE MAJOR PROVISIONS OF THE CONTRACT INCLUDES A BASE WAGE INCREASE OF 2% TO BE GIVEN IN SEPTEMBER OF EACH YEAR OF THE CONTRACT TERM AND FLAT AMOUNTS OF $200 $200, $275 AND $350 TO BE ADDED TO ANNUAL SALARIES IN JANUARY OF EACH FISCAL YEAR.  THESE MATTERS WERE SPONSORED BY MAYOR MICHELLE WU AND WERE REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON AUGUST SEVEN, 2020 FOR I HAVE RECEIVED A LETTER OF ABSENCE FROM COUNCIL LOUIJEUNE AND COUNCILOR FINNEAS ANDERSON. I HAVE ALSO BEEN JOINED BY MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUE COUNCILOR WEBER TODAY PANEL PANELISTS CONSIST OF FROM THE ADMINISTRATION WE HAVE DIRECTOR OF THE BUDGET DIRECTOR WILLIAMSON, DIRECTOR OF LABOR FROM THE CITY OF BOSTON TO DIRECTOR POLICY AND LABOR RELATIONS DIRECTOR OF BPD DIRECTOR WILL TO THE FLOOR IS NOW YOURS.  THANK YOU CHAIR ROLE AND COUNCIL MEMBER.  MY NAME IS JIM WILLIAMSON. I'M THE BUDGET DIRECTOR HERE AT THE CITY BOSTON. ME AND MYSELF MY COLLEAGUES ARE HERE TO TALK ABOUT PROVIDING INFORMATION ABOUT THE THE BOSTON POLICE SCHOOL TRAFFIC SUPERVISOR'S ASSOCIATION IN ITS IMPACT ON THE CITY'S BUDGET. I'M HERE TO ADDRESS THE TWO APPROPRIATION ORDERS THAT ARE BEFORE YOU IN THE TRANSACTIONS THAT REPRESENT AS YOU JUST READ THROUGH THE DOCKETS TO DOCKETS 11631164 TRANSFER $187,000 FROM THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING RESERVE INTO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BUDGET AND IN THE CURRENT YEAR PART OF THE FBI 25 BUDGET WHICH WAS FINALIZED IN JUNE 2024 IT INCLUDED THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING RESERVE THE TOTAL OF $96.8 MILLION IN AGGREGATE TO COVER ALL OF THE OUTSTANDING COLLECTIVE BARGAINING CONTRACTS.  THERE HAVE BEEN FOUR COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL SO FAR IN THIS FISCAL YEAR TOTALING AROUND EITHER $90,000 . SO THIS WITH THIS REDUCTION OF HUNDRED AND $87,000 FOR THE SCHOOL TRAFFIC SUPERVISOR'S UNION, THE NEW BALANCE IN THE RESERVE WILL BE $95.8 MILLION. THANK YOU.  GOOD MORNING, COUNSELORS. I'M DIRECTOR OF LABOR RELATIONS FOR THE CITY OF BOSTON. THIS IS BASICALLY THE SAME PATTERN OF ECONOMIC CONTRACT YOU'VE SEEN IN THE OTHER COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENTS. THIS ONE IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BECAUSE THE SCHOOL TRAFFIC SUPERVISORS ARE NOT FULL TIME EMPLOYEES. THEY WORK ROUGHLY 15 HOURS A WEEK. SO WE DID SOME ADJUSTMENTS ON THE FLAT AMOUNTS THAT THOSE ARE A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU SAW IN THE FULL TIME IN THE FULL TIME EMPLOYEES FLAT AMOUNTS. THIS HOWEVER DID THESE ARE LOWER EMPLOYEES AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE PLEASED TO SAY THAT BY INCLUDING THIS LAST AMOUNT IT DID GIVE THEM GREATER INCREASES. THEY RANGED FROM ABOUT FROM 20% AT THE FIRST STEP FOR FOUR YEARS TO ABOUT 15% AHEAD THE HIGHER STEPS FOR THE FOUR YEARS OF THE CONTRACT AND IT'S A LITTLE IT'S ABOUT 3.7% PER YEAR FOR THE EMPLOYEES IN THIS GROUP. IN THIS AGREEMENT WE ALSO ELIMINATED THE FIRST STEP OF THEIR PAY SALARY SO THEY START AT A HIGHER RATE AND PUT ONE ADDITIONAL STEP AT THE TOP. SO THAT ALSO IMPROVES SOME OF THAT AND ALSO IMPROVED THEIR PAY.  WE OFFERED THEM SICK TIME DURING THEIR PROBATION AND THE CITY'S BEREAVEMENT LEAVE AS WELL AS PART OF THIS AGREEMENT. WE THINK IT'S A POSITIVE STEP FOR THIS GROUP AND URGED THE COUNCIL TO PASS IT.  THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING COUNCILOR JOHN WILTON LABOR LABOR COUNCIL FOR DPD.  IT'S A GOOD CONTRACT. WE THINK IT'S GOING TO HELP US FILL SOME OF THESE VACANCIES THAT WE HAVE FOR THIS UNIT IN PARTICULAR.  I KNOW THE UNION SUPPORTS THIS CONTRACT AND SO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT RESPECTFULLY ASKS THAT THE COUNCIL PASS IT. THANK YOU. JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE'VE ALSO BEEN JOINED BY MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUE COUNCILOR FITZGERALD. NOW I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MY COLLEAGUES FOR QUESTIONS. COUNCILOR WEBER, THE FLOOR IS YOURS. THANK YOU, CHAIR. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ADDRESSED THIS AT THE BEGINNING.  SO YOU TALKED ABOUT VACANCIES I GUESS.  DO WE KNOW HOW MANY SCHOOLS DON'T HAVE CROSSING GUARDS OR HOW MANY CROSSING GUARDS WE HAVE TOTAL? CAN YOU JUST GIVE ME THAT? YES. WE HAVE 52 VACANT POSITIONS AND 153 FILLED POSITIONS TWO OR FIVE TOTAL.  AND DO YOU KNOW IT AT AT WHAT WAS THE NUMBER LAST YEAR DO YOU KNOW IS THAT THE NUMBER OF VACANCIES GOING UP OR DOWN? I BELIEVE IT WENT UP VERY SLIGHTLY I THINK ONE OR TWO. BUT AFTER THIS CONTRACT OR IF THIS COUNCIL FUNDS THIS CONTRACT, WE ARE GOING TO WE'VE ALREADY HAD SOME GRAPHICS MADE FOR POSTERS AND PAMPHLETS FOR RECRUITMENT PURPOSES AND WE'RE HOPING THAT PARTICIPATE IN A JOB FAIR WITH THE CITY OF AUSTIN AND YEAH I MEAN I GUESS SO IF WE FUND THIS WITH THESE INCREASES WHAT IS WHAT WILL. WHAT'S THE PAY STRUCTURE OR DOES IT DEPEND HOW MANY? YOU GIVE ME A SENSE OF HOW MUCH YOU'RE PAYING IN OUR DOES IT GO UP. THE MORE EXPERIENCE YOU HAVE HOW MUCH BY HOW MUCH? WE HAVE NINE STEPS FOR THIS UNION GROUP. THE FIRST STEP IT'S GOING UP A TOTAL OF AN EFFECTIVE RATE OF 20% OVER THE COURSE OF FOUR YEARS. SO IT'S A IT'S A VERY SIGNIFICANT INCREASE JUST TO 20% OF WHAT WE THE THE CURRENT ANNUAL SALARY FOR THE FIRST STEP IS $13,004. OKAY. AND CROSSING GUARDS WHAT DID THEY DO? YOU GET A CERTAIN NUMBER EACH YEAR FOR WORK. DO YOU GET A CERTAIN NUMBER OF HOURS PER DAY?  I'M NOT SURE HOW WE GET IT'S IT'S BROKEN DOWN INTO 90 MINUTE TO 90 MINUTE SHIFTS A DAY SO IT'S 15 HOURS A WEEK. THEY'RE PART TIME EMPLOYEES AND THEN DO YOU KNOW IS THERE A DO OR ARE CROSSING GUARDS? HOW MANY OF THEM COME FROM BOSTON POLICE DEPARTMENT RETIRE? CAN YOU BE A RETIRED POLICE OFFICER AND BECOME A CROSSING GUARD? IS THERE A PIPELINE THERE? THERE'S NOT MUCH OF A PIPELINE THERE.  YOU CAN IT'S NOT PROHIBITED BUT THE A LOT OF THE CROSSING GUARDS LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT THEY PERFORM THEIR CROSSINGS IN THE I WOULD SAY A LOT OF THEM HAVE PART TIME WORK WITH THE SCHOOL DEPARTMENT AS WELL. SO A LOT OF THEM ARE CROSS DURING THE MORNING AND THE AFTERNOON AND OUR LUNCH MONITORS AT THE SCHOOL DEPARTMENT DURING THE DAY AND I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME TALK OF WORKING WITH PARENT GROUPS OR TRYING TO FILL GAPS, YOU KNOW, WITH WITH PARENTS WHO OBVIOUSLY HAVE OTHER OBLIGATIONS AND BUT IS THERE BEEN ANY EFFORT THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF TO KIND OF TRY TO FILL THESE GAPS WITH, YOU KNOW, SCHOOL BASED GROUPS?  SO I THINK WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH THE SCHOOLS TO TO FOR THE RECRUITMENT DRIVES AND WORK WITH PARENT GROUPS TO DO THAT.  I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S BEEN ANY DISCUSSIONS TO ACTUALLY HAVE PARENTS PERFORMING THE SAME FUNCTIONS.  OKAY. AND JUST THIS LAST QUESTION DO YOU KNOW SO I MEAN THERE ARE SCHOOLS THAT JUST DON'T HAVE A JUST IT'S A LEADING QUESTION BUT SO THERE ARE SCHOOLS THAT DON'T HAVE CROSSING GUARDS BECAUSE OF THE VACANCIES, IS THAT CORRECT? SO THEY'RE ASSIGNED TO THE THEY'RE ASSIGNED TO SPECIFIC CROSSINGS, NOT SPECIFIC SCHOOLS. SO THERE ARE CROSSINGS NEAR SCHOOLS THAT CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE CROSSING GUARDS OR IF A CROSSING GUARD IS OUT SICK ONE DAY THAT THAT COULD HAPPEN IF IT'S A BUSY INTERSECTION, IF IT'S A LESS SAFE INTERSECTION SOMETIMES WE'LL SEND A POLICE OFFICER THERE TO DO THE CROSSING. BUT IT REALLY DEPENDS ON WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE DISTRICT AS WELL. AND THEN DO YOU KNOW YOU KNOW, IF WE LOOK AT A MAP OF WHERE THE CROSS THE THE INTERSECTIONS ARE WHERE THERE ARE NO CROSSING GUARDS IN THE MORNING OR AFTER SCHOOL, ARE THEY ARE THEY GOING TO BE CONCENTRATED IN ONE AREA OR DOES ANYONE LOOK AT HOW THAT'S BEING DONE? DO YOU JUST YOU KNOW, HAVE A PREFERRED LOCATION FOR EACH CROSSING GUARD SO THEY TAKE IT TO BID FOR THEIR CONTRACT ON THE CROSSING THAT THEY'RE ASSIGNED TO IT? WELL, THEY'RE EACH ASSIGNED TO A DISTRICT AND THEY GET TO BID ON EACH CROSSING ON IN THAT DISTRICT ACCORDING TO SENIORITY WE CAN DETERMINE THE CROSSINGS. WE CAN OFFER THIS MANY CROSSINGS PER DISTRICT AND IDENTIFY THE CROSSINGS WHERE WE'D LIKE THEM BUT IN A ON A SENIORITY BASIS ARE THERE ANY DISTRICTS THAT HAVE MORE OPEN MORE, YOU KNOW, UNFILLED POSITIONS THAN OTHERS?  I'D HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CHAIR. THANK YOU.  COUNCILOR FOR THE FOUR JURORS.  THANK YOU. I HAD JUST AS MANY QUESTIONS AS COUNCILOR WHETHER I JUST REALLY MY KIDS, I. I LIVE ON THE SAME STREET AS WHERE MY KIDS GO TO SCHOOL THAT BEEPS, RIGHT? AND SO EVERY DAY I GET TO WALK THEM UP THE HILL THAT'S PART OF MY DAY AND THE ROLE THE CROSSING GUARDS PLAY IN THEIR DAY. TO GET THEM EXCITED TO GO TO SCHOOL AND THE RELATIONSHIP THAT I HAVE WITH THE CROSSING GUARD AND AFTER THIS POINT RIGHT AND GETTING TO SEE THEM EVERY DAY AND TO AND FROM AND THE GAMES SHE HAS WITH THE KIDS AS THEY COME UP THE HILL AND ALL THIS STUFF I MEAN THERE IS IT IS ONE OF THOSE ROLES WHERE IT'S UNDERAPPRECIATED AND THE FACT THAT THERE'S VACANCIES I DON'T THINK PEOPLE CAN UNDERSTAND AND THAT YOU'RE RIGHT THE NEIGHBORHOOD PEOPLE RIGHT. SO THEY'RE THEY'RE STAPLES THAT YOU GET TO SEE ELSEWHERE AND THAT IT BUILDS COMMUNITY, IT BUILDS COHESION AND YOU KNOW, YOU GOT TO GET THE RIGHT PEOPLE RIGHT AND THE RIGHT PEOPLE RIGHT SPOT BUT IT'S JUST A IT'S A ROLE AND A JOB THAT IT CAN FILL A NEED FOR FOLKS THAT ARE TRYING TO LOOK FOR RIGHT JUST A PART TIME TO SUPPLEMENT THE INCOME, TRY TO PUT THE FOOD ON THE TABLE STOP TRYING TO PAY THOSE EXTRA BILLS.  IT'S SUCH A GREAT THING. I THINK THAT THE RAISE IS WELL WARRANTED AND THEY'RE SORT OF THE UNSUNG HEROES REALLY BECAUSE THAT MY KID GETS EXCITED TO ACTUALLY WALK UP THE HILL TO SCHOOL AND AND JUST JUST TO INTERACT AND HAVE THIS DAILY INTERACTION WITH THEM AND I CHERISH IT VERY MUCH. SO THAT'S REALLY IT IS JUST A PERSONAL STORY OF HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT THEY DO AND THAT IT'S NOT JUST A SHOW UP JOB AND RIGHT. I MEAN THEY'RE PROTECTING KIDS LIVES AT THE END THAT YOU REALLY CAN'T PUT A PRICE ON THAT AND SO THANK YOU GUYS FOR ALL YOU DO AND ADVOCATING FOR THEM AND COMING TO THIS AGREEMENT AND HAPPY TO VOTE AND SUPPORT. SO THANK YOU. YES.  ARE THE ARE THE CROSSING GUARDS ELIGIBLE FOR OVERTIME? I KNOW THEY GET SCATTERED OR STAGGERED START TIMES AND BEEPERS SO ARE THEY ABLE TO YOU KNOW DO THIS INTERSECTION AT YOU KNOW JUST THAT STARTING TIME FOR SCHOOL THEN GO TO ANOTHER INTERSECTION WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT BEFORE. OKAY YOU KNOW OVERTIME IN THEIR CONTRACT IS IS THEY THEY'RE ELIGIBLE FOR OVERTIME IT IS PAID AT A STRIKE TIME BASIS BECAUSE THEY'RE 15 HOUR WEEK EMPLOYEES.  WE HAVEN'T DEPLOYED THEM TO DIFFERENT INTERSECTIONS BEFORE AND I'M NOT I'LL HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT. OKAY.  YEAH I'M JUST THINKING OF THE INTERSECTION THAT PROBABLY DOESN'T LIKE YEAR AFTER YEAR IF THERE'S AN INTERSECTION THAT DOES NOT GET COVERED JUST BECAUSE IT'S BASED ON, YOU KNOW, A BIDDING AND SENIORITY IF YOU KNOW THERE'S A WAY TO KIND OF MAKE SURE THAT WE FIND A WAY TO ADDRESS THOSE INTERSECTIONS THAT ARE GOING ON COVERED FOR A FEW YEARS.  THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS HOW DOES THE BIDDING FOR THESE INTERSECTIONS CHANGE DURING THE YEAR? I KNOW THAT HAPPENS WITH BUS DRIVERS WHERE A SENIOR BUS DRIVER CAN TAKE OVER A BUS ROUTE, A MONTH OR TWO IN. SO DOES THAT THAT PART CHANGE ONLY IF THEY TRANSFER DISTRICTS THE BIDDING IS DONE AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE SCHOOL YEAR. OKAY.  AND THEN IF SOMEONE IS HIRED OR IF SOMEONE TRANSFERS INTO A NEW DISTRICT THEY CAN THEY CAN BID ON THE OPEN CROSSINGS AND THEN YOU ELABORATE AND JUST KIND OF EXPLAIN THAT TYPICALLY POLICY I KNOW THAT THE BUS DRIVERS, YOU KNOW, RAISE THAT AS ONE OF THEIR CONCERNS. SO I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR THAT POLICY FOR FOR THIS CONTRACT. SO THEY ACCRUE ONE DAY A MONTH OF SICK LEAVE AND THEY CAN USE THEIR SICK LEAVE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CITY OF AUSTIN ATTENDANCE POLICY. OKAY.  I ALSO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE'VE BEEN JOINED BY COUNCILOR FLYNN. COUNCILOR FLYNN, THE FLOOR IS YOURS AND THANK YOU MR CHAIR AND THANK YOU TO THE ADMINISTRATION TEAM THAT'S HERE. I DO APOLOGIZE FOR BEING LATE TO THIS IMPORTANT MEETING. I DON'T WANT TO ASK QUESTIONS THAT MAY HAVE BEEN ASKED ALREADY.  JIM, IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU, JIM. IS IT IS IT ACCURATE TO SAY THAT THIS CONTRACT IS A 2% INCREASE? IS THERE ARE A FEW OTHER ELEMENTS BEYOND THE 2% THERE ARE FLAT AMOUNTS AND CHANGES I THINK JOHN MIGHT HAVE ADDRESSED SORT OF PARTICULARLY THE STEP ONE BEING A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE. YES, KESSLER THAT IT'S A 2% BUT IT'S COMBINED WITH THE FLAT AND EFFECTIVELY IT ADDRESSES THE LOWEST PAID OF THIS GROUP THE FIRST STEP AT A 20% OVER 20% OVER THE COURSE OF FOUR YEARS IS 2% THE BEST THE CITY COULD OFFER.  I MEAN FOR PER YEAR IT'S IT'S ABOUT 3.7 FOR THIS GROUP 3.7% OH, IT'S NOT 2% NO. SO INCLUDING THE FLAT AMOUNTS AND THE STEP CHANGES WE MADE THIS IT AVERAGES TO LIKE 3.73 ABOUT 3.7 AND EFFECTIVE FOR THE BASE WAGE INCREASE IS 2%. IS THAT RIGHT?  I MEAN THE TWO 200 GOES INTO THEIR BASE SO I GUESS I WOULD SAY THAT'S NOT RIGHT. IT'S 3.7 INTO THEIR BASE. OKAY.  I DIDN'T GO ON THE COMMITTEE HEARING NOTICE THERE WAS A MISPRINT THEN. WELL, 2% IS THE PERCENTAGE PART BUT THERE'S A PLAT THAT GOES IN AS WELL SO THAT JUST MIGHT HAVE BEEN THERE. OKAY IN THOSE FLAT AMOUNTS AMOUNTS WHAT 200 AND $275 OR $350 TO BE ADDED EACH JANUARY.  RIGHT. OKAY.  ANY LANGUAGE AT ALL IN THERE ABOUT IF A MEMBER OF THE UNION IS A VETERAN IS THERE ANYTHING LANGUAGE IN THERE ABOUT SUPPORT FOR VETERANS?  DO WE HAVE ANYTHING LESS FROM THE MILITARY? IS THAT RIGHT? WE HAVE THE MILITARY LEAVE POLICY BUT THAT ADDRESSES, YOU KNOW, ACTIVE MILITARY AND UNIFORMED SERVICE. BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY ANYTHING THAT ADDRESSES VETERANS SOMEONE'S STARTING OUT IN THIS JOB. WHAT WOULD THE OUTLOOK WOULD THE SALARY BE THE STARTING SALARY IF THIS COUNCIL PASSES?  IS IT THE NEW STARTING SALARY IS GOING TO BE 13,468 ANNUALLY. THAT'S BASED ON NINE MONTHS OF WORK.  IF THEY OPT FOR SUMMER WORK IT AUGMENTS THAT AND AGAIN THEY WORK 15 HOURS A DAY SO THERE ARE 15 HOURS PER WEEK PART TIME. OKAY. ARE THEY SUBJECT TO RESIDENCY?  THEY ARE, YES.  WELL WHY WOULD THEY BE SUBJECT TO RESIDENCY MAKING THAT THAT TYPE OF SALARY THE RESIDENCY ORDINANCE SUBJECTS EVERYONE TO RESIDENCY, EVERY CITY EMPLOYEE TO RESIDENCY PARTICULARLY AS COUNCILOR FITZGERALD SAID THAT THIS IS A VERY NEIGHBORHOOD CENTRIC YOU KNOW, THEY'RE PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY BECOME PART OF THE PLACE WHERE THE KIDS GO TO SCHOOL IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE FAMILIES THAT ARE GOING THERE. SO I MEAN I THINK THERE IS YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY COSTLY BUT THERE ARE SOME REAL BENEFITS I THINK WITH THIS GROUP TO BEING LIKE PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THEY'RE THAT THEY'RE CROSSING.  OKAY.  HAVE ANY OF THE TRAFFIC SPECIALIST IN THIS BARGAINING UNIT HAVE ANY OF THEM REACHED OUT TO YOU ABOUT SOME OF THE SAFETY CONCERNS THEY HAVE IN DEALING WITH PEDESTRIANS,  DEALING WITH SPEEDING VEHICLES OR ANY TYPE OF HAZARDOUS HAZARDOUS SITUATIONS THAT MAKE THEIR JOB DIFFICULT? YOU KNOW, IT'S INTERESTING THAT YOU ASK THAT COUNCILOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO WE DID HAVE A SCHOOL TRAFFIC SUPERVISOR REACH OUT BECAUSE THERE WAS A A WALK BEACON THAT WAS NOT OPERATING CORRECTLY AND AND WE WERE ABLE TO CONVEY THAT INFORMATION AT BTD AND I BELIEVE IT WAS CORRECTED. OKAY.  WHEN WHEN THESE TRAFFIC SPECIALISTS NOTIFY THEIR SUPERVISORS OF TRAFFIC HAZARDS THOSE DEALT WITH QUICKLY AND EFFECTIVELY?  I WOULD HOPE SO. THEIR SUPERVISORS ARE THE COMMUNITY SERVICE OFFICERS IN EACH DISTRICT. THAT'S WHO THEY REPORT TO AND THE COMMUNITY SERVICE OFFICERS ARE VERY WELL VERSED IN AND FAMILIAR WITH EACH DISTRICT. SO I THINK THEY CAN THEY CAN ADVOCATE AND TRY TO CORRECT THE PROBLEMS AND HOW DO THEY DO THAT?  THEY REACH OUT TO EITHER THEIR CONTACTS AT PD, THEY CAN REACH OUT TO THEIR SUPERVISOR IF THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THAT WORK WORK DEPENDS ON THE ISSUE. I THINK HAVE HAVE ANY OF THESE SUPERVISOR AND IT IS TRAFFIC SPECIALIST BEEN INJURED AT ALL AS A RESULT OF VEHICLES HITTING THEM NOT IN THE FIVE YEARS THAT I'VE WORKED FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. OKAY WHAT IS THEIR NUMBER ONE COMPLAINT OR CONCERN AND THEY MUST HAVE CONCERNS MAKING THAT THAT TYPE OF SALARY. YEAH, I THINK THEY'RE PROBABLY NUMBER ONE CONCERN THAT I'VE HEARD IS THAT COMPETITION.  OKAY ARE THERE ANY AND THERE ARE A LOT OF VACANCIES BECAUSE THE SALARY IS SO LOW IT'S A PART TIME JOB. SO I THINK THAT ALSO DRIVES SOME RECRUITMENT ISSUES BUT I WOULD THINK THAT SALARY MIGHT PLAY SOME PART BUT WE ARE YOU KNOW IF I THINK THIS IS A GOOD CONTRACT IT'S A VERY SIGNIFICANT WAGE RAISE AND IF THE COUNCIL VOTES TO FUND IT, WE ARE PREPARED TO CREATE WELL WE HAVE GRAPHICS FOR POSTERS AND PAMPHLETS MADE AND WE WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH THE CITY TO DO A RECRUITMENT JOB FAIR. I THINK THIS JOB HERE THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT JOBS IN THE CITY IN MY OPINION. I THINK COUNCIL MORALE ASK THE QUESTION ABOUT SICK LEAVE AND JUST WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT. CERTAINLY EVERYONE'S ENTITLED TO SICK LEAVE AND EMERGENCIES DO HAPPEN BUT WHEN EMERGENCIES ARE SICK LEAVE SICK SITUATIONS DO HAPPEN. HOW WILL WE ENSURING THAT THAT THAT A PERSON IS PHYSICALLY AT THAT SPACE PROVIDING CRITICAL PUBLIC SAFETY SUPPORT TO RESIDENTS EVEN EVEN AT SHORT NOTICE? SO IT IS SOMETIMES COVERED BY A PATROL OFFICER IF THE SCHOOL TRAFFIC SUPERVISOR CANNOT BE AT THAT INTERSECTION IT REALLY DEPENDS WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE DISTRICT. YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S IF THERE IS MULTIPLE VERY SERIOUS PUBLIC SAFETY EMERGENCIES, IT'S LIKELY THAT THE POLICE OFFICER IS NOT GOING TO BE DEPLOYED AT THE CROSSING BUT BUT THAT WE SHOULD NEVER ACCEPT THAT WE SHOULD NEVER ACCEPT NOT HAVING A PERSON DOING THE JOB. AND AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND PEOPLE ARE SICK BUT WE SHOULD NEVER ACCEPT NOT HAVING SOMEONE DOING THAT JOB BECAUSE PEDESTRIANS AND KIDS REALLY STUDENTS REALLY RELY ON THE ASSISTANCE.  HOW ARE WE HOW ARE WE PREPARING FOR THAT?  THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S DOING THE BEST IT CAN WITH DEPLOYMENT IF IF SOMEONE IS SICK, YOU KNOW WE IF IT IS A BUSY AND POTENTIALLY HAZARDOUS INTERSECTION WE CERTAINLY WANT TO HAVE A PATROL OFFICER THERE. OKAY. OKAY. MY FINAL QUESTION, MR CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TO THE CHAIR, BUT COULD I GET A COULD I GET A LIST OF HOW MANY TIMES VACANCIES OR OR SHIFTS WERE NOT MANNED FOR FOR THE PERIOD OF TIME WHETHER IT'S IN THE MORNING OF THE AFTERNOON OR OVER MAYBE OVER THE LAST 12 MONTHS LAST LAST YEAR JUST SO THAT I KNOW WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH BECAUSE IF I IF I HEAR THAT YOU KNOW THAT 20% OF THE TIME THE SHIFT REMAINS UNOCCUPIED, THAT MEANS WE HAVE A WE HAVE A CHALLENGE, WE HAVE A PROBLEM.  IF IT'S ONE OR 2% I CAN WE CAN WE CAN DEAL WITH THAT.  BUT IF IT'S IF IT'S A SIGNIFICANT PERCENTAGE, I'D LIKE TO KNOW ABOUT THAT TO THE TO THE CHAIR. YEAH WE WE CAN GET YOU THAT INFORMATION. THANK YOU MR CHAIR. THANK YOU TO THAT LINE OF QUESTIONING WE HAVE 220 205 TOTAL POSITIONS. IS THAT EQUIVALENT TO THE AMOUNT OF INTERSECTIONS WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE COVERING UP? THOSE ARE THE POSITIONS ALLOCATED TO US. OKAY, SO HOW MANY INTERSECTIONS IS ARE WE SUPPOSED TO BE COVERING THAT?  I HONESTLY COULDN'T TELL YOU COUNSELOR.  YOU KNOW THESE ARE THE POSITIONS ALLOCATED TO US AND WE TRY TO DEPLOY AS BEST WE CAN. WE TRY TO IDENTIFY WHICH CROSSINGS NEAR SCHOOLS ARE NEEDED TO HAVE A SCHOOL TRAFFIC SUPERVISOR POSTED THERE. OKAY. SO IS IS THERE ANY SORT OF LIST OF UNCOVERED INTERSECT CHAINS?  YES. IT'S WHEN WE IDENTIFY AN INTERSECTION THEY'RE ALLOWED TO BID ON ON EACH INTERSECTION EVERY SCHOOL YEAR. SO THERE IS A A IDENTIFIABLE LIST OF OF UNCOVERED OF UNCOVERED AREAS. YEAH, A LOT I THINK COUNCIL WENT BACK TO THE SAME QUESTION I WOULD LOVE TO JUST GET A A LIST OF THE UNCOVERED INTERSECTIONS. OKAY.  AND THEN I KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN SOME ADVOCACY ON EXPLORING MOVING THE TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS OUT OF BPD ONTO THE CITY MAYBE TO THE STREETS CABINET OR YOU KNOW ANOTHER CABINET. WHAT IS THE ADMINISTRATION'S STANCE ON THAT MOVE?  SO IT'S BEING EVALUATED I WILL SAY JUST FROM A LABOR PERSPECTIVE I KNOW YOU KNOW THE SCHOOL TRAFFIC SUPERVISORS UNION'S CHARTER IS THAT THEY REPRESENT SCHOOL TRAFFIC SUPERVISORS EMPLOYED BY THE CITY OF BOSTON IN ITS POLICE DEPARTMENT.  I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT WOULD AFFECT ANYTHING BUT I KNOW IT'S BEING EVALUATED BY THE CITY LEADERS. OKAY. I WOULD SAY WE WOULD LEAVE IT UP TO, YOU KNOW, OTHER PEOPLE IN THE ADMINISTRATION TO SEE WHAT'S THE BEST, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC SAFETY DECISION FOR THAT. AND YOU KNOW, WILL WILL DEAL WITH THE LABOR IMPLICATIONS OF HANDLE THOSE. OKAY. AND THEN KNOWING THAT WAS $13,000 THAT A TRAFFIC SUPERVISOR MAKES, WE HAVE YOU KNOW, THE CIVILIAN DETAIL FLAG IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE STARTING UP. IS THERE ANY COORDINATION TO HELP THESE INDIVIDUALS TAP INTO SOME OF THAT THOSE OPPORTUNITIES FROM THE CIVILIAN FLAGGERS NOT CURRENTLY. I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ANY OC DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THAT. YEAH I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A GREAT WAY FOR SOME OF THESE TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS TO GAIN SOME ADDITIONAL INCOME. AND THEN LASTLY WHAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR ME I DIRECT THEM BUT SHE WILLIAMSON IS YOU KNOW SOMETIMES WE GET IT, SOMETIMES WE DON'T BUT JUST LIKE A ONE PAGER ON THE CHANGES PRIOR TO THE MEETING THAT THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL FOR ME AND MY COLLEAGUES ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE GOING TO BE PASSING IT ON ON WEDNESDAY JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ALL THE DETAILS IN FRONT OF US. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FROM MY COLLEAGUES? ALL RIGHT. WELL THANK YOU GUYS AGAIN FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK. I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TEAM BEING OUT THERE EVERY MORNING GREETING OUR YOUNG PEOPLE ON THEIR WAY BACK HOME.  AND WITH THAT SAID, THIS HEARING ON DOCKET NUMBER 11631164 IS ADJOURNED. YOU