FOR THE RECORD MY NAME IS GABRIELA COLETTA. DISTRICT ONE CITY COUNCILOR I'M THE CHAIR OF THE BOSTON CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS. TODAY'S APRIL 19TH, 2024. THIS HEARING IS BEING RECORDED . IT IS ALSO BEING LIVESTREAMED AT BOSTON.COM FOR ITS LAST CITY DASH COUNCIL DASH TV AND BROADCASTED ON XFINITY CHANNEL EIGHT RCN CHANNEL 82 AND VIA CHANNEL 964. WRITTEN COMMENTS MAY BE SENT TO THE COMMITTEE EMAIL AT C C C DOT GEO AT BOSTON DOT GOV AND WILL BE MADE A PART OF THE RECORD AND AVAILABLE TO ALL COUNCILORS. PUBLIC TESTIMONY WILL BE TAKEN AT THE END OF THIS HEARING. INDIVIDUALS WILL BE CALLED ON IN THE ORDER IN WHICH THEY SIGNED UP AND WILL HAVE 2 MINUTES TO TESTIFY. IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN TESTIFYING IN PERSON PLEASE ADD YOUR NAME TO THE SIGN UP SHEET NEAR THE ENTRANCE OF THE CHAMBER. IF YOU ARE LOOKING TO TESTIFY VIRTUALLY PLEASE EMAIL OUR CENTRAL STAFF LIAISON. MEGHAN CAVANAUGH AND E.G. H A AND DOT K HAVE A AND A G H AT BOTTOM DOT GOV FOR THE LINK AND YOUR NAME WILL BE ADDED TO THE LIST. TODAY'S HEARING IS ON DOCKET 0263. PETITION FOR A SPECIAL LAW REGARDING AN APP REGARDING AN ACT REGARDING THE DISABILITY PENSION FOR BRIAN MACPHERSON. THIS MATTER WAS SPONSORED BY COUNCILOR FLYNN AND WAS REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON JANUARY 31ST 2020 FOR I'M JOINED BY MY COLLEAGUES IN ORDER OF ARRIVAL. THE LEAD SPONSOR COUNCILOR FLYNN AND OUR COUNCIL PRESIDENT ARE ROOTSY LOUIJEUNE DO FOLKS WANT TO DO OPENING STATEMENTS ALL GOING ON ARRIVAL COUNCIL FUNDING OF THE FLOOR. THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR FOR SHARING THIS HEARING AND FOR BEING VERY RESPONSIVE. I ALSO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO MY CITY COUNCIL ASSISTANT SOPHIA WANG FOR HELPING ME DURING THIS PROCESS AS WELL. THANK YOU DEPUTY SHERIFF MCPHERSON FOR BEING HERE. AS COUNCILOR COLETTA, THE CHAIR MENTIONED THIS IS A POTENTIALLY A HOME RULE PETITION FOR DISABLED DETENTION FOR DEPUTY SHERIFF BRIAN MACPHERSON WHO SUSTAINED SERIOUS INJURIES WHEN HE WAS WORKING IN A SUFFOLK COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT IN 20 AND 28. BRIAN WAS RESPONDING TO MULTIPLE INCIDENTS INVOLVING INMATE INMATES AT SUFFOLK COUNTY HOUSE OF CORRECTION AND WAS PUNCHED IN THE HEAD AND HIT HIS HEAD ON THE CONCRETE AND AS A RESULT HE SUFFERED PERMANENT INJURIES THAT PREVENTED HIM FROM HIS DUTIES AS A SERGEANT. DEPUTY SHERIFF END WAS FORCED TO RETIRE AT AGE 37 WHEN HE WAS EMPLOYED BY THE SUFFOLK COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. HE WAS A CITY OF BOSTON EMPLOYEE IN HIS RETIREMENT SYSTEM UNDER THAT TIME. THE RETIREMENT SYSTEM FALLS UNDER BOSTON DURING THIS PERIOD OF TIME AS HE SEEKS A INCREASE IN HIS DISABILITY STATUS INCREASE. HE HAS BEEN WORKING WITH STATE REPRESENTATIVE SULLIVAN, I BELIEVE OUT OF ABINGTON ON THIS ISSUE IN THE STATE SENATE. STATE SENATOR SULLIVAN REACHED OUT TO ME AND ASKED ME IF I WOULD IF I WOULD WORK WITH HER TEAM ON THIS. I WAS TOLD THAT HE WOULD NEED A HOME RULE PETITION PASSED IN BOSTON IN ORDER TO RECEIVE FULL DISABILITY PENSION PAY. I REVIEWED THE DOCKET, REVIEWED THE INFORMATION, THE MEDICAL INFORMATION AND I BELIEVE THIS IS WORTHY FOR AN INCREASE IN THIS PERCENTAGE. I BELIEVE BRIAN HAS SERVED OUR CITY SERVED OUR COUNTY WHICH IS WHICH IS A WHICH IS THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. I BELIEVE BRIAN SERVED THE RESIDENTS OF SUFFOLK COUNTY WITH DISTINCTION WITH INTEGRITY AND DUE TO THIS HORRIFIC ACCIDENT OR HORRIFIC VIOLENT ATTACK I SHOULD SAY IS HERE BEFORE US. I ALSO UNDERSTAND I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT THE CITY NEEDS TO DO ITS DUE DILIGENCE ON ANY DISABILITY PENSION CASE FILED. I LOOK FORWARD TO THIS HEARING AND HEARING FROM MY COLLEAGUES, HEARING FROM THE ADMINISTRATION AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME AND FROM THE SERGEANT ON HIS EXPERIENCE AS WELL. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR FLYNN. WE'VE BEEN JOINED BY COUNCILOR ERIN MURPHY. WE'LL GO TO COUNCILOR LOUIJEUNE AND COUNCILOR MURPHY FOR OPENING REMARKS. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR AND THANK YOU TO EVERYONE FOR BEING HERE. I'M JUST HERE TO LEARN AND HEAR FROM EVERYONE TO KNOW HOW I CAN BE SUPPORTIVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR LOUIJEUNE COUNCILOR MURPHY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU. IT'S A LOT. I HOPE WE CAN DO RIGHT BY YOU. AND I APPRECIATE COUNCILOR FLYNN FOR YOUR OPENING REMARKS AND YOUR ADVOCACY AND AS YOU YOU KNOW HOW IT WORKS. THERE'S USUALLY SOMEONE AT THE STATEHOUSE WHO MAY ALREADY BE ADVOCATING AND IT HAS TO START HERE. SO YES, YOU DO HAVE I AS YOU KNOW, A LONG ROAD AHEAD BUT I HOPE THAT WE CAN HELP YOU MOVE ALONG THAT PATH. THANK YOU ANY WAY WE CAN. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND I'D JUST BRIEFLY SAY BEFORE I PASS IT OVER TO YOU OBVIOUSLY MACPHERSON, THAT WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THE CITY OF BOSTON AND THE COUNTY AND I'M GRATEFUL TO HAVE YOU HERE. IT'S IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE REVIEW EVERY DISABILITY CLAIM FROM THE CITY OF BOSTON. WE'VE DONE THIS QUITE A BIT DATING BACK TO I WON'T EVEN PUT A YEAR ON IT BUT THERE WAS A LOT OF CONVERSATION IN 2022 IN PARTICULAR AROUND CERTAIN BOSTON POLICE OFFICERS AND THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE RETIREMENT BOARD AND THE PERCENTAGES OF OF WHAT FOLKS SHOULD GET AND I WILL REFERENCE THOSE CONVERSATIONS LATER SPECIFICALLY AS IT RELATES TO SECTION ONE D THERE'S A DEVIATION IN SOME OF THE LANGUAGE OF PAST FORMAL PETITIONS THAT WE'VE SENT OUT BUT GENERALLY JUST GRATEFUL TO HAVE YOU HERE TO TO TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOURSELF IN THE STORY AND I KNOW THAT IT IS SOMETIMES PAINFUL TO READ TO RELIVE THESE INTIMACIES INTIMATE ISSUES THAT YOU'RE GOING THROUGH. I WILL JUST SAY THAT THE IMPACT THAT SOMETHING LIKE THIS CAN HAVE ON YOUR LIFE IS PROFOUND. I'VE HAD A FAMILY MEMBER WHO HAD A VERY SIMILAR INCIDENT AS A POLICE OFFICER IN A GREATER BOSTON MUNICIPALITY AND SO I UNDERSTAND QUITE WELL HOW THIS COULD IMPACT YOUR LIFE OR YOUR LIVELIHOOD AND DO WANT TO DO RIGHT BY YOU WHILE ALSO MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE NOT SETTING PRECEDENT OR OR SETTING THE STAGE FOR CERTAIN DISABILITY CLAIMS MOVING FORWARD. SO WITH THAT I WOULD LOVE TO PASS IT OVER TO YOU TO PROVIDE AN OPENING STATEMENT AND GIVE US ANY INFORMATION THAT YOU THINK IS HELPFUL. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCILMAN . MY NAME IS BRIAN MACPHERSON AND ON BEHALF OF MYSELF, MY WIFE, MY KID I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO COME BEFORE YOU AND SPEAK ABOUT MY DISABILITY PENSION THE VIOLENT INJURY THAT LED UP TO IT. I'M HERE TODAY TO ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT ON A HOME RULE PETITIONS CHANGE MY CURRENT STATUS OF 72% DISABILITY PENSION WHICH IS BASED ON A 2008 SALARY TO 100% OF WHAT I WOULD BE EARNING IF I HAD NOT BEEN INJURED IN THE VIOLENT MANNER AND I WAS STILL EMPLOYED AT THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AS A SUPERVISORY OFFICER YEAR IN MY CAREER AS A SWORN LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER WITH SUFFOLK COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT IN DECEMBER OF 1991 WHICH AT THAT TIME FELL UNDER THE CITY OF BOSTON PAYROLL AND BENEFITS FOR THE EMPLOYEES. MY ASSIGNMENT STARTED AT THE DEAR OLD PRISON FACILITY ALONG WITH OTHER STAFF AND INMATES. I MOVED TO THE HOUSE CORRECTION ON BRADFORD STREET AT THE END OF DECEMBER 1991. OVER THE COURSE OF MY CAREER AS A CORRECTION OFFICER, A DEPUTY SHERIFF, A SUPERVISORY POSITION, I HELD MANY DIFFERENT ASSIGNMENTS. I STARTED OUT AS A UNIT OFFICER THEN I WAS TRAINED AS A MEMBER OF THE RESPONSE TEAM. I WORKED IN OUR MAIN OPERATIONS CENTER AND I DROVE FOR THE TRANSPORTATION DIVISION MOVING INMATES TO COURT HOSPITALS AND OTHER FACILITIES. THAT'S MY CAREER PROGRESSED. I WAS GIVEN THE HONOR TO INSTRUCT FELLOW OFFICERS AND CUSTODY STAFF MEMBERS IN VARIOUS INTERNAL TRAINING CLASSES AND A NEW HIRE ACADEMY . I WAS ALSO ASKED TO COMMAND THE SHERIFF'S HONOR GUARD WHICH I DID FOR THREE YEARS ON MAY 13TH, 2000 2008. MY CAREER AND MY LIFE TO A DRASTIC TURN WHILE I WAS WORKING THE 311 SHIFT TO THE HOUSE CORRECTIONS OF SERGEANT. I WAS STANDING IN THE BUILDING TREE YARD MONITORING AND MADE TO ADOPT A RECREATION. A FIGHT BROKE OUT BETWEEN MULTIPLE INMATES. THE FIGHT IMMEDIATELY MOVED TO MY DIRECTION WHEN ONE OF THE INMATES RAN BEHIND ME TO GET AWAY FROM THE OTHERS. I WAS NOW IN A POSITION OF HAVING INMATES AROUND ME TRYING TO PUNCH AND KICK ONE ANOTHER WHILE TRYING TO PROTECT MYSELF AND RESTRAIN ONE OF THE INMATES AND VIOLENTLY PUNCHED MY HEAD. THE BODY KICKED ON THE LOWER HALF OF MY BODY. AS RESPONDING STAFF ARRIVED ON SCENE. I WAS ABLE TO GAIN CONTROL OF ONE OF THE INMATES AND JOIN MY ATTEMPTS TO RESTRAIN HIM. I FELL AND HIT MY HEAD ON A CONCRETE WALL. AFTER THE INMATES WERE SECURE THEY IMMEDIATELY SPOKE TO CAPTAIN RON ALONG. INFORMED HIM THAT I STRUCK MY HEAD OFF THE WALL, INSTRUCTED ME TO REPORT TO THE FACILITY INFIRMARY. AFTER SPEAKING TO I'M BEING EVALUATED WITH MEDICAL STAFF THEY ORDERED ME TO GO TO THE HOSPITAL EMERGENCY ROOM WHICH I WAS TAKEN TO BY AN OFFICER IN A DEPARTMENT CRUISER. I WAS TREATED FOR A HEADACHE AND POSSIBLE CONCUSSION INFORMED BY THE HOSPITAL MD. TO SEE MY PRIMARY PHYSICIAN. FOLLOWING DAY I WOKE UP WITH SEVERE PAIN IN MY LOWER BACK MY HIP NUMBNESS AND WHILE IT LEFT TO SEE MY PRIMARY DOCTOR SHE DETERMINATION TO START THERAPY AND STAY ON WORK. OVER THE NEXT YEAR I HAD TREATMENTS FOR A TORN DISC IN MY LOWER BACK AND A JOINT IN MY HIP IN THE FORM OF PHYSICAL THERAPY CORTISONE INJECTIONS, A CHIROPRACTOR ALL UNDER THE DIRECTION OF MY PERSONAL PHYSICIAN, A NEUROLOGIST AND A PHYSIOLOGIST. AFTER ONLY RECEIVING MINIMAL RELIEF FROM THESE PROCEDURES AND NOT BEING ABLE TO RETURN TO WORK ON A FULL TIME STATUS, MY NEUROLOGIST INFORMED ME I SHOULD SEEK RETIREMENT. PROCESS BEGAN WITH THE CITY OF BOSTON DISABILITY RETIREMENT UNIT AND A PANEL OF DOCTORS ASSEMBLED BY PARIKH. UPON COMPLETION OF MY PANEL REVIEW THE DOCTORS AGREED. MY INJURIES WERE TO BE CONSIDERED PERMANENT AND THEN I COULD NOT PERFORM THE FUNCTIONS OF A SERGEANT FOR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. THE INFORMATION FROM THAT PANEL WAS RELAYED TO MY DEPARTMENT WHERE I WAS FORMED OF MY SPECIAL SHERIFFS SUPERINTEND. GERARD HORGAN. THE RULES WERE TAKEN UP PERFORM ALL THE DUTIES OF A SERGEANT. DUE TO MY INJURY THAT I SUSTAINED WHILE WORKING FOR THE DEPARTMENT I HAD TO RETIRE ON A DISABILITY PENSION. AT THIS POINT IN MY LIFE I WAS 37 YEARS OLD, MARRIED AND HAD THREE YOUNG KIDS TWO OF WHICH WERE NOT EVEN SCHOOL COLLEGE. ONCE THE RETIREMENT PROCESS WAS GOING TO PULL YOU I NOW RECEIVING 72% OF WHAT I WAS EARNING FROM WHEN I SUSTAINED MY INJURIES. THIS OF COURSE WAS AND STILL IS AN ENORMOUS FINANCIAL BLOW TO MY FAMILY. THERE WAS INFORMED NOW THAT I COULD NOW GO OUT AND EARN AN INCOME BUT IT WOULD BE CAPPED AT A PERCENTAGE PLUS $5,000. AFTER SEVERAL YEARS THAT LAW DID GET CHANGED AND IT WAS CHANGED TO PLUS 15 WITH THE AMOUNT I WAS ALLOWED TO EARN. I STARTED WORKING PART TIME FOR FUNERAL HOME COVERING WAKES AND FUNERALS THEN STARTED DRIVING. I WAS ABLE TO FIND SOME SECURITY WORK AS A MONITOR AT A LOCAL COLLEGE FOR SPECIAL EVENTS TRYING TO FIND WORK TO MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE IN WHAT I WAS MAKING AS A SHERIFF BUT TO NOT GO OVER THE ANNUAL CAP FOR WHILE STILL HAVING THE NUMBNESS FROM MY LEG AND TIGHTENING MUSCLES IN MY NECK ISN'T ALWAYS EASY. OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS I'VE BEEN SEEING DR. MICHAEL HAYS, BRIGHAM AND BRIGHAM AND WOMEN'S CHIEF NEUROLOGIST. I GET SIX INJECTIONS IN MY NECK EVERY EVERY FOUR MONTHS TO TRY TO LEAVE THE TIGHTNESS IN THE MUSCLES IN MY NECK. THE SPRING OF 2023 DARTMOUTH ALSO REPORTED AN UPDATED MRI ON MY BACK INFORMED ME THAT THE STATUS OF MY DISK INJURY AFTER THE MRI IS THE SAME AS IT WAS ON THE INITIAL MRI IN 20 AND THAT TRYING TO PERFORM A NEW PROCEDURE IT COULD ONLY MAKE IT WORSE. DURING MY RETIREMENT MY WIFE WENT BACK TO SCHOOL WHILE SHE PART TIME HELPED ME WITH MY CONDITION AND HELPED RAISE HER THREE KIDS TO TO COMPLETE HER BACHELOR'S IN HER MASTER'S. SHE IS NOW A TEACHER OF STUDENTS WITH VISUAL IMPAIRMENTS. TODAY MY KIDS ARE 25, 19 AND 17. MY NEIGHBORS AND I TRY OUR BEST TO PROVIDE FOR THEM AND GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITIES THEY DESERVE IN SCHOOL AND LIFE. ALL PARENTS WANTED TO DO IS RAISE THEIR FAMILY THE BEST WAY THEY CAN. MORALLY, ETHICALLY, FINANCIALLY . DURING COVID I ASKED MY STATE REPRESENTATIVE TO FILE A BILL ALLOWING RETIREES ON DISABILITY TO EARN MORE MONEY REPRESENTING ZOOM-SOLVING DID THIS. BUT IT DID NOT MOVE THROUGH THE HOUSE PROCESS. IN MARCH OF 2020 GOVERNOR BAKER SIGNED CHAPTER 53 OF THE 2020 BUT IN SECTION 14 IT ALLOWED PERSONS ON RETIREMENT IN CERTAIN CASES TO HAVE THE NUMBER OF HOURS THEY WORK AND THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THEY COULD EARN WOULD BE ON HOLD DURING THE STATE OF EMERGENCY. BUT THE LAST LINE OF THE SECTION 14 SAYS THIS SECTION WILL NOT APPLY TO INDIVIDUALS RETIRED UNDER GENERAL OR SPECIAL LAW DISABILITY. WHEN I CONTACTED PATRICK AND ASKED HOW COULD THIS BE FAIRER I WAS TOLD YOU ASK FOR YOUR RETIREMENT. I DID NOT ASK FOR IT. I WAS FORCED INTO IT. NO ONE EVER WANTS TO BE INSURED. NO ONE EVER WANTS TO BE ASSAULTED LET ALONE IN A VIOLENT MANNER. NO ONE EVER WANTS TO BE INJURED ON THE JOB AND NOT BE ABLE TO RETURN TO WORK. NO ONE EVER WANTS TO BE TOLD THEY MUST RETIRE AND LIVE OFF A FIXED INCOME THAT DOESN'T HAVE REASONABLE INCREASES. NO ONE EVER WANTS TO HAVE TO LIVE WITH INJURIES DEEMED PERMANENT BY MEDICAL PANEL. BUT ALL OF THESE HAPPEN TO ME AND THIS IS WHY I AM BEFORE YOU TODAY TO ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF MY HOME RULE PETITION. THANK YOU ALL FOR LISTENING TO ME . AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU FOR SHARING YOUR STORY, MR MACPHERSON. WE DEEPLY APPRECIATE IT. I WILL GO TO THE LEAD SPONSOR FOR ANY QUESTIONS HE MAY HAVE AND THEN CANCEL LOUISIANAN COUNSELOR NANCY. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. AND THANK YOU, SERGEANT, FOR YOUR TESTIMONY, YOUR MOVING TESTIMONY AND I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR SERVICE AND SACRIFICE ONCE AGAIN BUT ALSO YOUR FAMILY SACRIFICE IN THE DIFFICULT SITUATION THIS HORRIFIC VIOLENT ATTACK PLACED YOUR FAMILY IN AS WELL, INCLUDING FINANCIAL RELATED CHALLENGES THAT PUT KIDS UNDER . AND I THINK THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY IS TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE PROFESSIONAL WISDOM THAT YOU'VE DONE AS AS AN EMPLOYEE AT THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND IN YOUR DUTIES AS A SERGEANT IN THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. YOU WERE VIOLENTLY ATTACKED IN DUE TO THAT ATTACK. YOU WERE NO LONGER ABLE TO CONTINUE WORKING. MEDICALLY DISCHARGED. YOU WERE MEDICALLY DISCHARGED AND IT ALSO PUT YOUR FAMILY UNDER DIFFICULT FINANCIAL CHALLENGES. SO CURRENTLY, SERGEANT, YOU'RE AT 72% CORRECT. SO THE 72% IF YOU STILL WORKED YOU WOULD YOU WOULD PROBABLY HAVE RECEIVED SIGNIFICANT OVERTIME PAY AS WELL BEYOND THE TRADITIONAL 40 HOURS A WEEK. IS THAT ACCURATE? YES. HOW BIG OF A FINANCIAL IMPACT HAS THIS HAD ON YOUR FAMILY IN TERMS OF IS THERE A WAY THAT YOU COULD SAY DUE TO THIS VIOLENT ATTACK MY FAMILY HAS LOST 30% OF INCOME. MY FAMILY HAS LOST 40%. IS THERE ANY WAY THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO GIVE A BALLPARK ESTIMATE ON THE FINANCIAL SPECIFIC FINANCIAL IMPACT IT HAD ON YOUR FAMILY AND THE. WHAT MY PENSION IS NOW AND THE MONEY I'M ALLOWED TO MAKE ONLY BRINGS ME TO WHAT I WOULD BE MAKING IF I WAS STILL WORKING. SO THE IMPACT IS ANY OVERTIME I WOULD HAVE GOT WHICH COULD HAVE BEEN ONE OR TWO SHIFTS A WEEK OR ANY PART TIME JOB OUTSIDE OF THAT THAT I WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GET WHICH COULD HAVE ADDED TO THE FAMILY FINANCES WAS ALL TAKEN AWAY. IT'S MY PENSION IS 72% OF WHAT I MADE AND YES I GET TO MAKE SOME MORE MONEY BUT IF I ADD THE TWO OF THEM TOGETHER IT COMES TO ONLY WHAT I WOULD MAKE IF I WAS JUST DOING 40 HOURS AND NEVER WORKED IN OVERTIME AND NEVER WORKED PART TIME JOB TO TRY AND MAKE THE EXTRA MONEY FOR MY FAMILY. IF WE WERE LOOKING AT A BALLPARK FIGURE THE STAFF THAT ARE THERE NOW I MEAN NO ONE OVERTIME A WEEK IS 20 TO $25000 YOU KNOW TO SO TO HAVE THAT ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT EXTRA MONEY AND PROVIDE FOR MY FAMILY AND YOU KNOW IN OR EVEN THE ABILITY TO MAKE MORE TO HELP I MEAN ONE OF MY OLDEST SON HE'S DONE WITH COLLEGE WE HELP HIM A LITTLE WITH PAY. MY SECOND DAUGHTER IS IN COLLEGE LOANS IN YOUR NAME MONEY WILL HELP BUT IF I HAD THE ABILITY TO STILL BE THERE AND MAKE THEM MORE MONEY OR IF MY YOU KNOW, PETITION GOES THROUGH AND I'M ABLE TO GET MORE MONEY, WELL THEN I CAN DO WHAT I SHOULD DO. THANK YOU. LIKE LIKE THE BOSTON POLICE THAT TRADITIONALLY ESPECIALLY OVER THE LAST I DON'T KNOW TEN YEARS OR SO 15 YEARS ALMOST WORKING MANDATORY OVERTIME BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF POLICE OFFICERS THAT WERE SHOT IN THE CITY. IS THAT THE SAME AS IN THE SUFFOLK COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT THAT THERE ARE THERE ARE A CRITICAL NEED FOR MORE SHERIFFS DEPUTIES IN THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. YEAH, IN RECENT CONVERSATIONS I'VE HAD WITH, YOU KNOW, FORMER COLLEAGUES THE THERE AND SOME OF THEM BEING CAPTAINS THROUGHOUT THE DEPARTMENT AS A WHOLE. BUT OFFICERS ARE BEING FORCED TO WORK NOT EVEN VOLUNTARILY OVERTIME. THEY'RE BEING WHAT WE WOULD REFER TO AS BEING FROZEN ONCE IF NOT TWICE A WEEK AND DEPENDING ON WHAT SHIFT YOU'RE ON, YOU'RE BEING FORCED THREE TIMES A WEEK AND THAT IT'S DUE TO THE THE LOW NUMBERS OF STAFF THESE GUYS MEN AND WOMEN THAT ARE WORKING THERE AND SERVING THE COUNTY THEY'RE NOT BEING GIVEN THE CHOICE TO DO YOU WANT THE OVERTIME THEY'RE BEING FORCED TO WORK AND SO IF I WAS STILL THERE I COULD FALL UNDER THAT CATEGORY OF BEING FORCED TO WORK A SHIFT A WEEK AND THEN VOLUNTEERING OR BEING FORCED MULTIPLE SHIFTS. SO IT'S LIKELY IF YOU WERE STILL THERE YOU WOULD BE WORKING AT LEAST ONE SHIFT FOR JUST A WEEK PROBABLY PROBABLY TO TWO SHIFTS A WEEK. YES. WHAT YEAR DID YOU START WORKING AT THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT? 1991. WHAT YEAR WERE YOU PROMOTED TO SERGEANT? 2005. WAS THAT FOR A WRITTEN EXAMINATION? YES. WERE YOU PREPARING PRIOR TO THIS VIOLENT ASSAULT? WERE YOU PREPARING TO STAY IN THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT FOR YOUR ENTIRE CAREER? YES. LIKE I HAD STATED, I HAD HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MANY OPPORTUNITIES IN THE DEPARTMENT WHEN I YOU KNOW, RAN THE HONOR GUARD WHEN I TAUGHT THE ACADEMY AND EVEN WHEN I WAS YOU KNOW, WAS NOT TEACHING IN THE ACADEMY, I WOULD BE CALLED BACK TO TEACH ON OCCASION I WOULD GO OUT AND TEACH AT OTHER DEPARTMENTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY ,YOU KNOW, THROUGHOUT THE STATE TAUGHT FOR OTHER SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENTS WHEN THEY NEEDED INSTRUCTORS. SO YOU RETIRED AS A SERGEANT MEDICALLY RETIRED AS A SERGEANT BUT YOU COULD HAVE CONTINUED IF YOU STILL IF YOU WEREN'T VIOLENT ASSAULTED YOU COULD HAVE CONTINUED ON IN THAT POSITION TAKING THE NEXT EXAMINATION FROM SERGEANT IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. I WOULD HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE DOWN THE ROAD, TAKE TESTS GOING ALL THE WAY UP TO CAPTAIN AND THAT WOULD HAVE ALSO INCREASED YOUR PAY I WOULD ASSUME. IS THAT IS THAT ACCURATE? YES. SO NOT ONLY DID YOU LOSE A LOT OF THAT PAY BUT YOU ALSO RETIRED AS A SERGEANT STOPPING YOUR CAREER PROGRESSION WHERE YOU COULD HAVE PROBABLY ADVANCED TO THESE EXAMINATIONS AT LEAST TO THE AT LEAST TO THE NEXT PROBABLY TO THE NEXT RANK AS WELL, HOPEFULLY. YES. WHAT WAS THE IMPACT ON YOUR CHILDREN? MY OLDEST AT THE TIME WAS NINE OR TEN. HE UNDERSTOOD BUT NOW WITH BACK SPASMS I WOULD HAVE DAYS I WOULD JUST WALK AND FALL AND I REMEMBER HAVING LUCKILY ONE OF THE WORST ONES BUT IT WENT FINE AS I LIVE IN THE TOWN OF WHITMAN AND WE HAVE A VERY SMALL TOWN CENTER AND I WALKED ACROSS THE STREET WITH MY TWO LITTLE ONES SO THEY WERE AT THE TIME THIS HAPPENED THEY WERE PROBABLY THREE AND FOUR AND I SPASM TWO FELL DOWN IN THE STREET AND IT TOOK HIM 10 SECONDS OR SO TO GET UP AND MOVE AND GO, YOU KNOW, FOR FOR THEM TO SEE IT, YOU KNOW. NOW MY YOU SAID THE OLDEST ONE WOULD TALK TO ABOUT TREATMENT, YOU KNOW. YEP. GOING TO THE DOCTOR TO GET THIS INJECTION OR GET THIS SHOT AND TO THE STATE. YEAH. OH THEY HAD TO GO IN AND I GET SIX INJECTIONS IN THE BACK OF MY NECK TO TRY AND RELIEVE THE MUSCLES WHICH YOU MAY OR MAY NOT NOTICE NOW I KEEP MY HAND NEAR MY HEAD BECAUSE MY HEAD WILL EITHER PULL LEFT OR IT'LL POLE STRAIGHT UP AND THE INJECTIONS TO TRY AND RELIEVE THAT. SO THEY TO THIS DAY STILL FOLLOW THAT I GO IN AND I GET TREATMENT FOR THIS. WHAT OTHER WHAT OTHER IMPACT HAS IT HAD ON YOUR CHILDREN. THE THE LOSS OF PAY MY AT THE TIME MY WIFE HAD A GREAT PART TIME JOB AND WE YOU KNOW BASICALLY WITH MY SCHEDULE AND HER PART TIME JOB WE WERE ABLE TO BE THERE ONE OR BOTH OF US FOR OUR KIDS ALL THE TIME. WELL WHEN THAT CHANGED AND THE LOSS OF MONEY SHE TOOK HER PART TIME JOB BUT THEN SHE WENT BACK TO SCHOOL AND SHE FINISHED HER BACHELOR'S. SHE WAS GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO UMASS BOSTON FOR A MASTER'S PROGRAM TO TEACH KIDS WITH VISUAL IMPAIRMENTS. SO WHILE BEING, YOU KNOW, THE CAREGIVER FOR THE KIDS WORKING PART TIME AND THEN DOING A MASTER'S PROGRAM, YOU KNOW, SHE COMPLETED GOT THE JOB BUT AGAIN THAT TOOK AWAY TIME FROM THE FAMILY THAT MAY NOT HAVE HAD TO HAVE HAPPENED HAD I NOT BEEN INJURED, HAD I NOT HAD TO RETIRE AND WAS ABLE TO MAKE THE MONEY THAT I MADE THE I MEAN IMPACT THE KIDS THEY SEE HOW HARD WE WORK. SO AT THE BONUS BUT THEY SEE THE MEDICAL STRUGGLES. YOU KNOW, NO CHILD WANTS TO SEE THEIR PARENT GO THROUGH DIFFICULT PHYSICAL CHALLENGES, ESPECIALLY THE YOUNG PARENTS LIKE YOURSELF AT THE TIME AND BEFORE I START MY QUESTIONING AND GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MY COLLEAGUES, I ALSO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE STRONG PRESENCE AND RESILIENCY OF YOUR FAMILY OF OF YOUR WIFE WHO I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET A ONE WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL WOMAN AND DURING DIFFICULT TIMES I ADMIRE WHAT YOU'VE DONE FOR YOUR FAMILY AND WHAT YOUR WIFE HAS DONE FOR YOUR FAMILY KEEPING KEEPING PEOPLE TOGETHER AND AND UNDER VERY DIFFICULT FINANCIAL ,PHYSICAL, EMOTIONAL CHALLENGES. YOU DID THE BEST FOOD FOR YOUR KIDS AND AND TRY TO ENSURE THAT YOUR KIDS WOULD GET THE BEST UPBRINGING POSSIBLE. AND WHEN I TALKED TO YOU PREVIOUS TO THAT THAT'S WHAT YOUR MAIN FOCUS WAS ON YOUR ON YOUR CHILDREN AND RESPECT RESPECT AND ADMIRE BOTH BOTH YOU AND YOUR WIFE FOR YOUR DEDICATION TO TO YOUR KIDS AND AND YOUR WIFE ALSO FOR HER RESILIENCY AND HARD WORK GO AND GOING BACK TO SCHOOL AND HELPING HELPING CHILDREN WITH SPECIAL SPECIAL NEEDS I SPOKE MORE CHILDREN WITH DISABILITIES . I'M GOING TO STOP THERE, MADAM CHAIR, AND GIVE MY COLLEAGUES THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. COUNSELOR FLYNN COUNCILOR LOUIJEUNE THANK YOU SO MUCH, MADAM CHAIR AND I WANT TO THANK YOU, MR MACPHERSON FOR UH FOR COMING HERE AND SHARING YOUR STORY WHICH I THINK THE CHAIR SAID EVERY TIME MUST BE DIFFICULT AND MUST BE TRAUMATIC. UM, YOU KNOW, YOU SAID YOU WERE 37 YEARS OLD WHEN THIS HAPPENED AND 37 NOW AND I CAN'T IMAGINE SORT OF , UM WELL, HOW HOW LIFE ALTERING THIS HAS BEEN. BUT I ALSO HOPE THAT YOUR FAMILY IS PROUD OF YOU AND YOU'VE STILL BEEN ABLE TO DO AND ACCOMPLISH AND YOUR WIFE JUST SHOWING UP FOR YOUR FAMILY SO JUST I JUST YOU KNOW UH, I COMMEND YOU. THANK YOU FOR PERSEVERING EVEN IN THE FACE OF THESE CHALLENGES. UM, SO YOU WERE TOLD TO RETIRE? YES, BASICALLY BECAUSE YOU COULDN'T AFFORD YOU CANNOT PERFORM THE CENTRAL FUNCTIONS OF THE JOB. YES. SUPERINTEND OF THE TIME IT SAID THAT IF YOU IF I CAN'T PERFORM ALL THE FUNCTIONS OF A SUPERVISED IT NEVER CORRECTION OFFICER AND IN THE ROLE THAT I HAVE THAT I HAD TO RETIRE AND SO AND SO YOU HAD NO OTHER OPTION ESSENTIALLY BUT TO RETIRE AS A WHAT IS THE REASONING THAT THEY'VE GIVEN FOR THIS 72% DETERMINATION AT THAT TIME THE WAS ACCIDENTAL DISABILITY WAS THAT THEY SAID YOU GET SEVEN YOU GET 72% THEN THAT WAS JUST THE THAT WAS JUST THE LAW THAT REQUIRED THAT IT WAS AT 72% YEP. OKAY AND AND THE TERM ACCIDENTAL THAT'S THE TERM THAT THE THAT'S JUST THE TERM THAT THEY USE. OKAY UM AND I AND THIS IS PART APOLOGIES BECAUSE SOME OF THIS IS JUST FOR MY KNOWLEDGE 100% WOULD IT BE AT TODAY'S DOLLARS AND NOT AT YESTERDAY'S TODAY'S DOLLARS AND RIGHT NOW IT'S 72% AT TODAY'S DOLLARS NO, I'M AT 72% OF 2008 SALARY IT IS NEVER GONNA SO WHEN YOU RETIRE WHEN YOU RETIRE ON A DISABILITY YOUR PENSION IS LOCKED AT THE DAY OF YOUR INJURY. AND SO WE ARE SEEKING 100% AS IF IF I WAS STILL THERE I WOULD BE IN MY I WOULD WITH MY AGE I WOULD STILL BE ABLE TO BE EMPLOYED THERE MAKING TODAY'S SALARY MAKING TODAY'S SALARY AND SO THE PITCH THE PETITION STATES 100% OF THE INNOVATIVE OF STATION HE WAS RECEIVING THE DAY SO IT'S STILL IT'S STILL 100% TO THE $28 MADAM CHAIR SO YES THAT'S CORRECT. AND YOU HAVE MADE A STATEMENT AND PERHAPS MY QUESTION IS IS TO THE CHAIR THAT THERE'S LANGUAGE IN SAYS SUBSECTION DO THAT WE TYPICALLY DON'T SEE WHAT CAN YOU ELABORATE A BIT ON THAT SHORT SO THIS DOCKET IS ALMOST IDENTICAL TO A PACKAGE OF DOCKETS THAT WAS FILED IN 2020 I TO GO BACK BY COUNCILORS ABBY GEORGE AND AT THE TIME AND JUST FOR THE RECORD IT WAS DOCKET 0505 FILED IN 2020 AND THEN REFILED AS DOCKET 0150 IN 2022 AND SO THIS RESULTED IN OVER TWO YEARS IN WORKING SESSIONS OF GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH THE BOSTON RETIREMENT BOARD AND I BELIEVE THAT THE STATE LEGISLATURE WAS INVOLVED. SO THIS LANGUAGE SO IT DOES REFER TO NATIONAL LAW 32 SECTION SEVEN TO A THAT LIMITS THE YEARLY AMOUNT OF PENSION ALLOWED EQUAL TO 72% OF THE ANNUAL RATE OF COMPENSATION HE WAS RECEIVING PREVIOUS HOMEWORK PETITIONS LIKE THE DOCKET I JUST MENTIONED A SIMILAR PETITION FOR KIRK STOKES MERGER OF BOSTON POLICE OFFICER REQUESTED 100% INITIALLY BUT WAS AMENDED TO REQUEST UP TO 80 INSTEAD AND IT WAS A RECOMMENDATION OF THE STATE LEGISLATURE AND THE RETIREMENT BOARD AND AT THE TIME IT WAS CHRISTINE WHERE WAS INVOLVED IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS AS A STAFF OF THE GOV OBITUARY TIME I WAS INVOLVED IN INITIAL CONVERSATIONS BUT HAD LEFT WHEN THEY WERE GOING THROUGH FROM 180 AND SO I DON'T HAVE THE REASON WHY THAT HAPPENED BUT I'M HOPING TO GET A WRITTEN PERSPECTIVE OR OPINION FROM TIM SMITH FROM THE BOSTON RETIREMENT BOARD WHO WAS INVITED HERE AND UNFORTUNATELY HAD A HAD A CONFLICT. I WONDER IS IT ALL BECAUSE OF LIKELIHOOD OF SUCCESS OR IN SOME OF THE MORE PETITIONS THERE INCLUDES LANGUAGE THAT ALLOWS THE STATE HOUSE TO ALTER LANGUAGE IS THAT INCLUDED IN THIS FORMAL PETITION YOU SAY NOTWITHSTANDING THE BOSTON TURMOIL SHOW? I DON'T I DON'T THINK THAT WAS THAT LANGUAGE. I WOULD TYPICALLY INCLUDE THE LIST THAT GIVES THE STATEHOUSE THE FLEXIBILITY TO ALTER IF FOR WHATEVER REASON THEY ARE NOT ACCORD. I DON'T THINK THAT WE'VE EVER HAD LANGUAGE LIKE THAT IN THESE TYPES OF WE HAVE THEM AND A LOT OF THEM WERE PETITIONS YET I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE THEM IN THIS AND DISABILITY PETITION THAT THAT LEAVES IT OPEN. I MEAN WE COULD DO THAT THINKING BACK TO THE LAST DOCKET THE STATE LEGISLATURE IT IS WHICH SECTION WHICH ONE OR OH IS IN ORDER BUT IS IT IS THAT IT'S IT'S NOT IN THE ACTUAL PETITION SO WE WOULD HAVE TO FORMALLY TAKE IT FROM THE WHEREAS AND PUT IT OKAY YEAH IT'S INTERESTING MADAM CHAIR BECAUSE THIS HAS COME UP ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS FROM ALL PETITIONS EVEN IN THE ORDERED LANGUAGE. THANK YOU MEGAN FOR POINTING THAT OUT WHICH IS AS FOLLOWS EXCEPT FOR CLERICAL OR EDITORIAL CHANGES OF FORM ONLY WE'VE GONE BACK AND FORTH ABOUT BECAUSE I'M I'M ASKING THIS QUESTION BECAUSE MAYBE WE DON'T HAVE TO RESOLVE THE QUESTION. IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S BEEN SOME BACK AND FORTH IN TERMS OF LIKE WHAT PERCENTAGE MAKES THE MOST IS THE MOST VALUABLE OR IS THE MOST LIKELY TO SUCCEED AT THE STATE HOUSE. BUT IF THERE'S LANGUAGE IN THE FORMAL PETITION ITSELF THAT GIVES THE STATE HOUSE SOME FLEXIBILITY, I REMEMBER I THINK I CAN'T RECALL WHICH ON THE PETITION BUT THERE'S LANGUAGE THAT'S A BROADER THAN THIS THAT ALLOWS FOR CHANGES FOR MORE BEYOND CLERICAL OR EDITORIAL CHANGE. AND I WONDER IF IT THAT WOULD GIVE SOME FLEXIBILITY IF WE'RE NOT ABLE TO MAKE A FINAL DETERMINATION AT THIS STAGE ABOUT WHAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE IF I CAN SO I HAVE A COPY OF BACK IN JULY 21ST OF 2023 BY REPRESENTATIVE ALLISON SULLIVAN . I HAVE A DOCKET NUMBER OF THE PETITION SHE ALREADY WROTE IF HE DOES WANT TO SEE THAT WITH AND THEN IT WAS DETERMINED IT WAS WRITTEN AND SENT TO THE BROUGHT UP TO THE STATE OF THEN IT WAS DETERMINED THAT BECAUSE I WAS A CITY AND BOSTON EMPLOYEE HIRED IN RETIRED THAT I CAME TO YOU FIRST SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE I I'M SURE WE CAN FIND THAT ONLINE BUT IF WE CAN GET COPIES AFTERWARDS WE'LL JUST MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY OKAY YEAH BECAUSE IT HAS IT IN THERE AND IT WAS THAT IT WAS SO IT WAS IT WAS AND IT WAS STATED SO THE REASON WAS IT WAS A PROCEDURAL REASON THAT IT YEAH IT'S A PROCEDURAL REASON FOR ME TO COME BACK AND COME IN FRONT OF THE COUNCIL AGAIN BECAUSE I HIRED UNDER THE CITY AND MY RETIREMENT BACK WHEN 2008 FELL UNDER THE CITY AND WHAT PERCENTAGE IS IN THAT DOCKET I MEAN WE CAN REVIEW IT NOW BUT IF YOU HAVE IT AND WHAT PERCENTAGE WAS IN THE DOCKET THE REPRESENTATIVE FILED ON YOUR BEHALF WAS IT 100%? IT'S YEAH, IT'S THE ANNUAL AMOUNT OF PENSION SHALL BE EQUAL TO THE REGULAR RATE OF COMPENSATION WHICH WOULD BE PAID HAD HE CONTINUED SERVICE AT THE GRADE HELD BY HIM THE TIME OF RETIREMENT BASICALLY IT'S 100% OF WHAT I WOULD BE GETTING IF I WAS THERE TODAY AND IT JUST THE FINAL STRUCTURAL QUESTION ALSO FOR MY OWN KNOWLEDGE IS WOULD STILL BE THE CASE TODAY FOR SUFFOLK COUNTY SHERIFF. IT WOULD HAVE COME BEFORE THE BOSTON RETIREMENT BOARD. NO, IT WOULD IT IS JUST IS A THIS IS HOW I'M OLD. I HAD THEY'RE NOT OLD. YOU'RE JUST YOU'RE SEASONED AND I'M SORRY AND THAT IS DIRECTLY BECAUSE YOU YOU RETIRED AND WHAT WAS IT 22 THEN YEAH SO MY KIDS MY RETIREMENT THE SHERIFF STILL FELL UNDER THE PURVIEW EVERYTHING OF CITY OF BOSTON. YEAH. OKAY. WELL, THANK YOU, ED THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU AGAIN, MR MCPHERSON, FOR YOUR SERVICE AND FOR COMING BEFORE US AND SHARING YOUR STORY AND YOUR LIFE WITH ALL OF US. WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT AND SORRY THAT YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THESE HOOPS BUT HAPPY TO HELP MY ON THE CHAIR AND THE SPONSOR MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS A PETITION THAT CAN BE SUCCESSFUL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILOR LOUIJEUNE COUNSELOR MURPHY THANK YOU. WE ALL SAID THANK YOU FOR SHARING THOUGH IT'S HARD TO SAY YOU LIVE ON A NICE STREET IN WHITMAN. A GOOD NAME, YES, BUT I KNOW THE QUESTIONS WERE ASKED AND THANK YOU COUNSELOR FLYNN FOR SHARING ALSO THAT YOU HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THE FAMILY BEFORE BUT OBVIOUSLY FINANCIALLY IS WHAT WE CAN HELP WITH. I'M TO DO THAT. BUT THE MENTAL STRAIN OBVIOUSLY OVER THESE PAST 16 YEARS YOU'RE COMING CLOSE TO BEING OUT AS LONG AS YOU WERE IN RIGHT AND HERE AND I KNOW MANY PEOPLE WHO WORK IN THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND LIKE OTHER FIRST RESPONDERS YOUR SALARY IS NEVER ENOUGH LIKE THE OVERTIME IS PART OF WHAT YOU'RE EXPECTED TO DO AND WHEN THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, TUITIONS AND SOCCER CLEATS AND ALL OF THE THINGS THAT FAMILIES BRING AND NOW YOUR CHILDREN ARE OLDER AND YOU KNOW YOU'RE LIVING THROUGH COLLEGE TUITIONS AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU KNOW, YOU SET OUT THINKING YOU'D BE ABLE TO SUPPORT AND IT'S NOT AND SHOULD NOT BE HELD AGAINST YOU FINANCIALLY THAT YOU WERE ATTACKED AT WORK. SO WE DO HAVE TO GET THIS RIGHT AND THE CHAIR DID MENTION THAT BACK IN 2020 COUNSELOR SABI GEORGE, SHE DID THEN LEAVE THE CONSOLE AND THOSE HOME RULE PETITIONS I DID BRING BACK IN 2022 WHEN IT WAS THE CONVERSATION ABOUT GETTING IT RIGHT. CHRISTINE WHERE WAS THE ACTING HEAD OF THE RETIREMENT BOARD AT THAT TIME? SO HOPING THAT WITH TIM SMITH AND CHRISTINE WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THE WORDING CORRECT THAT AND JUST ONE QUESTION TOO BECAUSE IT DID COME UP IN THOSE POLICE OFFICES AND THERE WAS ONE EMS WOMAN WHO WAS ATTACKED AND NEEDED FOR RETIREMENT. WILL WE IS THE WORDING THERE FOR RETROACTIVE TO GO BACK TO THE DATE OF THE DIFFERENCE THAT YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN GETTING? I BELIEVE IT IS IN THERE IF IF IT'S A STICKING POINT IT WOULD SOMETHING RIGHT I DON'T KNOW BUT I DO THINK THAT WE SHOULD MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT WORDING IN THERE ALSO BECAUSE YOU'RE HERE BEFORE US NOW BUT FOR LOTS OF REASONS LEGALLY IT'S WHY I BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO 2008 AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE AT THE RATE THAT YOU SHOULD BE AND COME TO THE FLYNN TOUCHED ON IT BUT THERE IS NO WAY TO TELL BUT WE CAN ONLY ASSUME THAT YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN PROMOTED. YOU WERE ON A PATH WHERE YOU WEREN'T ALREADY IN THAT SHORT TIME THOSE TWO YEARS AND YOU WERE ALREADY DOING MORE AND ON A PATH TAKING THE TEST SOME ALL OF THE DIFFERENT PATHS THAT WOULD PROMOTE YOU TO A BETTER PAYING POSITIONS WITHIN THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND IT SEEMED LIKE YOU WERE YOU WERE HAPPY AT YOUR JOB, YOU WANTED TO BE THERE AND THEN THIS HAPPENED TO YOU. SO HOPING THAT AND I KNOW THAT THE CHAIR WILL MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THE WORDING RIGHT SO THAT ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE CLEAR LEAVING THE CITY COUNCIL WHEN IT GOES BACK UP TO THE STATEHOUSE AND SOMETHING WE DO WITH THE RETIREMENTS OR WE'VE PASSED SOME WAGE AGE WAIVERS WHERE IT STARTS HERE AND IT GOES UP TO THE STATE HOUSE THAT WE HELP SUPPORT AND WE DON'T JUST ONCE IT LEAVES HERE THAT WE STAY IN TOUCH WITH THOSE WHO HAVE CHAMPIONED IT UP THERE TO MAKE SURE WHATEVER HELP WE CAN GIVE DOWN HERE FROM THE RETIREMENT BOARD OR US ON THE COUNCIL TO SEE THIS THROUGH . THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. SORRY . YOU'RE SORRY FOR ALL THAT'S HAPPENED TO THIS IS THE LEAST WE CAN DO TO GET IT RIGHT. NO, I APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. COUNCILOR MURPHY. AND I'LL JUST UNDERSCORE EVERYTHING THAT EVERYONE IS SAYING. I JUST THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR SERVICE. I AM THIS IS ONE OF THOSE INSTANCES WHERE GOVERNMENT TRIES TO DO GOOD AND THERE'S SO MANY AND THINGS THAT YOU HAVE TO JUMP THROUGH TO JUST LIVE A FULFILLING PROSPEROUS LIFE AFTER GIVING SO MUCH TO THE CITY AND INTO THE INTO THE COUNTY UM, I HOPE YOU CAN YOU CAN SEE AND HEAR THAT WE ARE SUPPORTIVE OF YOU IN THIS ENDEAVOR AND WE WILL DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE WHAT YOU NEED TO DO EXACTLY WHAT I JUST MENTIONED JUST JUST LIVE YOUR LIFE IN PEACE AND HARMONY. IT IS THAT THAT FORMER DOCKET OF 0150 WHERE THE RETIREMENT BOARD CAME BACK AND HAD SOME SUGGESTIONS AND SO I THINK IF IT'S OKAY WITH THE LEAD SPONSOR JUST MAKING SURE WE GET SOMETHING IN WRITING FROM TIM AND HAVING A CONVERSATION AND FIGURING OUT WHAT THIS MIGHT LOOK LIKE FOR HIM BECAUSE THEY ARE THE ADMINISTRATIVE BODY THAT WILL DISBURSE THESE FUNDS. AND SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE IN LOCKSTEP WITH THEM CROSSING OUR T'S DARTING OUR EYES AND THEN I DON'T THINK THAT THERE IS I THINK IT'S IMPLIED THAT IT'S RETROACTIVE PAY BUT IF WE NEED TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFIC I TRIED TO GO BACK INTO INTO THE LAST DOCKET AND SEE LANGUAGE THEY HAD TO USE BUT WE'LL WORK ON IT. OKAY. AND I'M TALKING I'M THINKING ABOUT THE TIMELINE AS WELL TOO. SO THE THE SESSION IS ABOUT TO END UP AT THE STATE HOUSE SO IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT WE MOVE QUICKLY ON THIS AND GET IT UP THERE REALISTICALLY FOR PASSAGE BY JULY 31ST IF THEY IF THEY CLOSED SESSION AT THAT. SO I'M COGNIZANT OF THAT. SO THERE IS AN EXPEDITED TIMELINE ON SO WE'LL WORK ON IT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE IN CONSTANT COMMUNICATION WITH YOU AND ON YOUR YOUR STATE REP THANK YOUR STATE SENATOR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OF COURSE. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WANTED TO ADD BEFORE WE BEFORE NO. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME IN AND YOU KNOW YOU KNOW THE PRESENT IN FRONT OF YOU. THANK YOU AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME FOR BEING HERE. WE DON'T HAVE ANY PUBLIC TESTIMONY. RIGHT. OKAY. I HAVE TO ASK SO WITH THAT THIS HEARING ON DOCKET 0263 IS ADJOURNED. THANKS EVERYBODY