##VIDEO ID:Ex-Y0mE0Tog## , FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS HENRY SANTANA AT-LARGE CITY COUNCILOR AND I AM THE CHAIR OF THE BOSTON CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC SAFETY AND CRIMINAL JUSTICE. TODAY IS AUGUST 14, 2024. THIS HEARING IS BEING RECORDED. IT'S ALSO BEING LIVESTREAMED AT BOSTON DOT GOV SLASH CITY COUNCIL DASH TV AND BROADCAST UNEXPECTEDLY CHANNEL EIGHT RCN CHANNEL 82 AND FILES CHANNEL 964. WRITTEN COMMENTS MAY BE SENT TO THE COMMITTEE EMAIL.  KEY TOPICS AT BOSTON.COM AND WILL BE MADE PART OF THE RECORD AND AVAILABLE TO ALL COUNCILORS . PUBLIC TESTIMONY WILL BE TAKEN AT THE END OF THIS HEARING.  INDIVIDUALS WILL BE CALLED ON IN THE ORDER IN WHICH THEY SIGNED UP AND WILL HAVE 2 MINUTES TO TESTIFY. IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN TESTIFYING IN PERSON PLEASE ADD YOUR NAME TO THE SIGN UP SHEET NEAR THE ENTRANCE OF THE CHAMBER. IF YOU ARE LOOKING TO TESTIFY VIRTUALLY PLEASE EMAIL OUR CENTRAL STAFF LIAISON MICHELLE GOLDBERG AT MICHAUD. A DARK GOLDBERG BOSTON DARK DOVE FOR THE LINK AND YOUR NAME WILL BE ADDED TO THE LIST. TODAY'S HEARING IS ON DOCKET NUMBER 0354. ORDER FOR A HEARING REGARDING CURRENT BAIL POLICIES AND LOCAL JAILS.  THIS MATTER WAS SPONSORED BY COUNCILOR FERNANDEZ ANDERSON AND WAS REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON FEBRUARY 14, 2024 . TODAY I AM JOINED BY MY COLLEAGUES IN ORDER OF ARRIVAL FROM DISTRICT TWO COUNCILOR ED FLYNN FROM DISTRICT THREE, COUNCILOR JOHN FITZGERALD FROM DISTRICT FIVE COUNCILOR AND RECAP AND FROM DISTRICT SEVEN COUNCILOR TANIA FERNANDEZ ANDERSON AND REPRESENTING THE ENTIRE CITY COUNCIL PRESIDENT RUSSI LOUIJEUNE.  BEFORE WE BEGIN I'D LIKE TO JUST ASK FOLKS TO PLEASE SILENCE THEIR PHONES AND DEVICES.  I JUST WANT TO SHARE AS CHAIR THAT I UNDERSTAND TODAY'S CONVERSATION WILL OF COURSE INCLUDE DISCUSSION OF CURRENT BAIL POLICIES AND LOCAL JAILS AS THE HEARING ORDER TITLE SUGGESTS AND I ANTICIPATE OUR DISCUSSION WILL ALSO SIGNIFICANTLY FOCUS ON BETTER UNDERSTANDING THE RELATED CENTRAL BOOKING PROCESS AND REGIONAL LOCK UP AND DUE PROCESS MORE GENERALLY.  CENTRAL BOOKING IS CERTAINLY A TOPIC THAT MY OFFICE AND I HAVE RECEIVED A LOT OF COMMUNITY QUESTIONS AND OUTREACH ABOUT AS I IMAGINE IN THE CASE FROM MY COLLEAGUES AS WELL. SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN MORE AND DISCUSS IT MORE IN DETAIL TODAY . MY THANKS TO COUNCILOR FERNANDEZ ANDERSON FOR FILING THIS IMPORTANT HEARING ORDER AND YOUR WORK TO FOSTERS TODAY'S DISCUSSION.  I'D NOW LIKE TO PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF THE PANELISTS THE COMMITTEE INVITED AND I WILL HEAR FROM TODAY AND THEN I'LL OPEN UP THE FLOOR FOR THE LEAD SPONSOR AND OUR COLLEAGUES TO PROVIDE OPENING REMARKS IF DESIRED.  THE COMMITTEE TODAY INVITED FROM THE MASSACHUSETTS BAIL FUND GIOVANNI MARTA BUCCI WHO'S THE DIRECTOR AND THE DIRECTOR OF ORGANIZING JASMINE BORGES FROM THE MARSHALL AID AND ADVOCACY PROGRAM THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR. CASEY HEARD FROM FAMILIES FOR JUSTICE AS HEALING. THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR MALLORY OUR DAUGHTER FROM THE BOSTON POLICE DEPARTMENT. THE COMMITTEE INVITED SUPERINTENDENT LA LA ANITA COOLING BPD FIELD SERVICES DEPUTY SUPERINTENDENT AND ASSISTANT BUREAU CHIEF DANIEL HUMPHREYS, BPD FIELD SERVICES SUPERINTENDENT KILLEEN SAID HER REGRETS THAT SHE WAS UNABLE TO ATTEND TODAY DUE TO PRIOR PERSONAL COMMITMENTS.  BUT WE ARE JOINED TODAY BY DEPUTY SUPERINTENDENT HUMPHREYS. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TODAY AND IT'S GOOD TO BE WITH YOU. FROM THE SUFFOLK COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, THE COMMITTEE INVITED EILEEN FORBES GENERAL COUNCILOR SUPERINTENDENT MICHAEL COLWELL, ASSISTANT SUPERINTENDENT RACHEL FEINBERG AND DIRECTOR OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS JIM WALSH.  I WANT TO EXTEND A SPECIAL THANK YOU TO THE SUFFOLK COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT FOR BEING HIGHLY PROACTIVE AND ENGAGED ON THIS MATTER. THEY HAVE MADE THEMSELVES VERY AVAILABLE IN ADVANCE OF THIS HEARING, INCLUDING REACHING OUT TO MY OFFICE WHEN THIS MATTER WAS ASSIGNED TO THE COMMITTEE. I ALSO I'M VERY APPRECIATIVE TO HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH THEIR TEAM AND TOWARD THE NASHUA STREET. JOE AS PART OF OUR PREPARATIONS FOR TODAY'S DISCUSSION. I ALSO WANT TO GIVE A SPECIAL ACKNOWLEDGMENT TO DIRECTOR WALSH FOR HIS CLEAR AND CONTINUOUS COMMUNICATION WITH MY OFFICE.  DIRECTOR WALSH IS HERE WITH US TODAY AND WILL BE PRESENT IN THE AUDIENCE IN CASE HE'S NEEDED BUT IS NOT ANTICIPATED TO BE SEATED AS A PANELIST.  SO I WANT TO RECOGNIZE HIS CONTRIBUTIONS NOW. THANK YOU SIR, FOR YOUR CLOSE COLLABORATION WITH OUR OFFICE. FROM THE BOSTON MUNICIPAL COURT CENTRAL DIVISION, THE COMMITTEE INVITED DANIEL HOGAN, CLERK CLERK HOGAN STATED THAT HE WOULD BE UNABLE TO COMMENT ON THIS PARTICULAR PROCESS GIVEN HIS POSITION IN THE MASSACHUSETTS ROLE AND ALSO SHARED THAT HE HAD A PRIOR COMMITMENT TODAY. AS SUCH HE WILL NOT BE JOINING US FROM THE EXECUTIVE OFFICE OF THE TRIAL COURT.  THE COMMITTEE INVITED KATHERINE COUGHLIN STATE BELL ADMINISTRATOR, A REPRESENTATIVE ON BEHALF OF ADMINISTRATOR COLLIER AND EXPRESSED THANKS FOR THE INVITATION AND SHARED A QUOTE AT THE TRIAL COURT IS PART OF THE JUDICIAL BRANCH AND MUST RESPECTFULLY DECLINE THE INVITATION TO APPEAR AS THE CENTRALIZED LAW ENFORCEMENT BOOKING PRACTICE AND THE POTENTIAL RESULTING DELAYS IN ADMISSION TO BAIL ISSUE COULD BECOME MATTERS OF DISPUTE IN FUTURE CRIMINAL OR CIVIL LITIGATION. THE TRIAL COURT MUST REMAIN NEUTRAL AND QUOTE AS SUCH ADMINISTRATOR COUGHLIN OR ANOTHER REPRESENTATIVE OF THE TRIAL COURT WILL NOT BE JOINING US TODAY.  THE COMMITTEE RECOGNIZES THAT THE COURT SERVES A VITAL ROLE IN THE PROCESS UNDER DISCUSSION TODAY AND THAT THE PANELISTS IN ATTENDANCE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO FULLY SPEAK TO ALL THE ELEMENTS OF THE COURT'S WORK. NONETHELESS, AS CHAIR I APPRECIATE THE PANELISTS WHO ARE JOINING US TODAY AND I'M CONFIDENT THAT THEY WILL THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO SPEAK IN DEPTH ON HOW THE ORGANIZATIONS INTERFACE WITH THE COURT AS RELEVANT TO TODAY'S DISCUSSION . I'D LIKE TO HAND THE FLOOR OVER NOW TO THE SPONSOR FOR FOUR OPENING REMARKS. COUNCILOR FERNANDEZ ANDERSON,  YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. THANK YOU TO THE MY PANELISTS, THE ADVOCATES OF BOSTON POLICE AND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE FOR BEING HERE AND EVERYONE IN THE AUDIENCE. I SEE A LOT OF A LOT OF FAMILIAR FACES THE YOUTH ADVOCATES. THANK YOU ALWAYS FOR ADVOCATING FOR OUR CITY. I ORIGINALLY FILED THIS IN FEBRUARY AND A COMPLAINT CAME TO MY OFFICE ORIGINALLY PRIOR TO FEBRUARY SINCE LAST YEAR ABOUT BAIL PRACTICES OR ADVOCATES WHO RAISED CONCERNS TO OUR OFFICE ON ONGOING ISSUES WITH DUE PROCESS AND BAIL POLICIES.  ORIGINALLY WE INTENDED TO MAKE THIS A MORE BROAD CONVERSATION BUT WANTED TO LEAVE IT OPEN FOR A NEUTRAL PLATFORM TO REALLY GET THE FACTS STRAIGHT.  SO TODAY HERE I WANT TO HEAR FROM THE ADVOCATES POINT OF VIEW.  I WANT TO HEAR FROM WHAT THE PRACTICES OR FAILED POLICIES OR WHAT EXACTLY ARE THE REPORTS FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AS WELL AS VPD. AND THEN I'D LIKE TO LEAN IN TO THE ADVOCATES TO SUPPORT ME WITH SOME OF MY QUESTIONS.  I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR WORKING WITH MY OFFICE AS WELL IN ADVANCE WITH MY DIRECTOR OF POLICY BUT PUTTING TOGETHER SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT SOME OF THEM MIGHT COME THROUGH THIS CONVERSATION. SO IT WILL BE A LITTLE BIT UNCONVENTIONAL WHERE WHERE QUESTIONS MAY COME UP AND I'M THE CHAIR TO THIS CHAIR IS DISCRETION TO ACTUALLY ALLOW DPD OR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO ANSWER BUT I WILL USE MY TIME TO ASK FOLKS TO CLARIFY SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE AS THE ADVOCATES THAT MAY NOT BE ANSWERED. SO I THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR ADVOCACY. IT'S SUCH AN IMPORTANT CONVERSATION.  WE AS A CITY ALWAYS TALK ABOUT REPRESENTING OUR MOST VULNERABLE THAT IT SHOULD BE A REFLECTION OF WHO WE ARE AND HOW WE LEAD IN THE CITY. SO I HOPE THAT TODAY THIS CONVERSATION IS EXEMPLARY OF THAT PRACTICE AND OR HOPEFULLY THAT OBJECTIVE. THANK YOU MR CHAIR AND THANK YOU TO ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES FOR JOINING US AND HOPEFULLY YOU WILL STAY FOR THE DURATION OF THIS HEARING TO SUCH AN IMPORTANT CONVERSATION. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO OFFER MY COLLEAGUES TO MAKE OPENING REMARKS AND THE ORDER OF ARRIVAL AND THEN WE'LL PROCEED WITH THE PRESENTATION AND OPEN TO REMARKS FROM OUR FIRST PANEL. WE'LL START WITH COUNCILOR ED FLYNN FROM DISTRICT TWO.  THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. AND I FIRST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO COUNCILOR FERNANDEZ ANDERSON FOR BRINGING THIS MATTER FORWARD AN IMPORTANT DISCUSSION. WANT TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THIS? SO I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO COUNCILOR FOR HIM AS ANDERSON. MR CHAIR, ALSO THANK YOU AS WELL AND ALSO MR CHAIR, FOR VISITING THE SITE NASHUA STREET AND LEARNING MORE ABOUT THAT. JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THAT'S REALLY AN EXCEPTIONAL THING IT DID. LEARNING ON ON SITE LISTENING, TALKING TO PEOPLE. SO I WANT TO I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT TAKING THIS JOB VERY SERIOUSLY.  I WANT TO WELCOME THE ADVOCATES FOR BEING HERE FOR THE IMPORTANT WORK YOU ARE DOING IN THIS COMMUNITY AND I DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE AN OPENING STATEMENT PER SE BUT JUST ALSO WANT TO RECOGNIZE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE TESTIFYING LATER FROM THE SHERIFFS DEPARTMENT, JIM WALSH AND DEPUTY SUPERINTENDENT HUMPHREYS.  I THINK BOTH DO AN EXCELLENT JOB WORKING FOR THE RESIDENTS OF BOSTON AND SUFFOLK COUNTY AS WELL. SO THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR . I'LL NOW HAND IT OVER TO COUNCILOR JOHN FITZGERALD FROM DISTRICT THREE. THANK YOU, CHAIR AND THANK YOU PANEL FOR BEING HERE TODAY. VERY INTERESTED TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THIS ISSUE. I'LL ADMIT THAT I'VE GOT A LOT OF EDUCATING MYSELF TO DO AND SO I LOOK TO DO THAT THROUGH THIS TODAY AND OPEN TO ANY AND ALL FEEDBACK FROM ALL PANELS AND SO I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS TAKING THE TIME TO HELP US MAKE A BETTER DECISION. THANK YOU.  THANK YOU. FROM DISTRICT FIVE, COUNCILOR PEPPER THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.  AND THANK YOU TO MY COLLEAGUE ANTONIO FERNANDEZ ANDERSON FOR FOR BRINGING THIS IMPORTANT MATTER TO THE TO THE TABLE.  YOU KNOW, I'M IN A VERY SIMILAR SITUATION AS COUNCILOR FITZGERALD WHERE I'VE HAD TO LEARN AS MUCH AS I CAN. THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT TOPIC . I'VE GOTTEN A FEW EMAILS ABOUT THIS SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M AS EDUCATED AS POSSIBLE WHEN I MAKE A DECISION. I ALSO DO WANT TO GIVE THANKS TO THE TO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT FOR BEING HERE AND I ACTUALLY WENT TO THE NASHUA STREET JAIL AS WELL TO LEARN AS MUCH AS I CAN. IT WAS A VERY INFORMATIVE TOUR SO THANK YOU SO MUCH TO YOU ALL FOR DOING THAT. I'M EXCITED FOR THIS CONVERSATION. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME . GREAT. THANK YOU. OUR COUNCIL PRESIDENT PRIVILEGE AND YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. THANK YOU MR CHAIR, FOR HOLDING THIS HEARING. I WANT TO THANK THE LEAD SPONSOR COUNCILOR FERNANDA ANDERSON.  I WANT TO THANK THE ADVOCATES. YOU KNOW, I'VE RECEIVED EMAILS AND INFORMATION ABOUT THIS AND WANT TO REALLY UNDERSTAND THE JURISDICTIONAL ISSUES THAT PLAY LIKE WHO SHOULD AND SHOULD NOT HAVE AUTHORITY. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IN THE PROCESS OF BOOKING FOLKS THAT WE ARE DOING SO IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE LAW AND THAT WE ARE RESPECTING PEOPLE'S DUE PROCESS AND CIVIL RIGHTS. SO JUST YOU KNOW, INTERESTED IN LEARNING MORE ABOUT THE PROCESS FROM FROM YOU FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, FROM THE BOSTON POLICE DEPARTMENT SO THAT WE CAN BE BETTER EDUCATED AS TO WHERE WE CAN CAN HAVE AN IMPACT. SO THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR, FOR FILING AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THE TO THE HEARING. THANK YOU.  ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO ALSO ACKNOWLEDGE AT THIS TIME THAT WE HAVE BEEN JOINED BY COUNCILOR BEN WEBER FROM DISTRICT SIX. COUNCILMEMBER, IF YOU'D LIKE TO OFFER ANY ANY OPENING REMARKS, PLEASE PROCEED. THANK YOU, CHAIR AND THANK YOU TO COUNCILOR FERNANDEZ INNOCENT FOR FILING THIS HEARING ORDER. I JOIN MY FELLOW COUNCILORS IN IN THAT THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF THE PROCESS FOR FOR ME AND I LOOK FORWARD TO LEARNING MORE ABOUT IT. I HAVE GOTTEN A LOT OF EMAILS AND PHONE CALLS FROM FOLKS IN DISTRICT SIX WHO ARE CONCERNED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE PRACTICES AROUND CENTRAL BOOKING AND YOU KNOW, AS OF AS AN ATTORNEY AND THE BROTHER OF A PUBLIC DEFENDER, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE'S CIVIL LIBERTIES ARE BEING, YOU KNOW, HONORED HERE AND THAT WE'RE DOING NO HARM. AND SO I LOOK FORWARD TO LEARNING MORE AND BEING PART OF THE CONVERSATION. THANK YOU, CHAIR THANK YOU, COUNCILOR . AND AGAIN, THANK YOU TO ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES FOR OUR FIRST PANEL. WE HAVE OUR COMMUNITY ADVOCATES. I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU ALL FOR THE WORK YOU DO ON THIS MATTER AND FOR JOINING US HERE TODAY.  I UNDERSTAND THAT OUR FIRST PANEL WILL BE OFFERING A PRESENTATION AND IT'S ALL TESTIMONY COLLECTIVELY. I'D LIKE TO I'D LIKE TO ASK EACH OF YOU TO STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD AND THEN PLEASE PROCEED WITH THE PRESENTATION.  THANK YOU.  MY NAME IS JASMINE BURGESS. I'M WITH THE MASSACHUSETTS BELL FUND.  HI EVERYONE. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS JAHNAVI BUCCI AND I'M THE DIRECTOR OF THE MASSACHUSETTS BELL FUND. I'M KELSEY HURD AND I'M THE DIRECTOR OF THE MATERIALS ADVOCACY PROGRAM. I'M NORA AND I'M THE CO-DIRECTOR OF FAMILIES FOR JUSTICE AS HEALING.  THANK YOU. HAVE THE FLOOR.  I'D LIKE TO START OFF BY SAYING THANK YOU CITY COUNCILOR ANDERSON FOR SPONSORING US AND THANK YOU CHAIR COUNCILOR SANTANA FOR HAVING US AS WELL AND FOR THE REST OF THE BOSTON CITY COUNCILORS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENDANCE. WE APPRECIATE BEING HEARD TODAY . I'D ALSO GIVE A SPECIAL THANK YOU TO THE STAFFERS THAT HELPED US GET US TO THIS DAY. THIS HAS BEEN SEVEN MONTHS IN THE MAKING AND WE WOULD NOT BE HERE WITHOUT YOUR STAFFERS. SO THANK YOU TO ALL OF THEM AGAIN, MY NAME IS JASMINE BURGESS. I AM THE DIRECTOR OF ORGANIZING FOR THE MASSACHUSETTS BAIL FUND. THE MASSACHUSETTS BAIL FUND IS AN ORGANIZATION THAT HELPS PAY CASH BAIL FOR OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO CANNOT AFFORD TO DO SO ON THEIR OWN. WE ARE LOCATE LOCATED IN FIELDS CORNER IN DORCHESTER AND WE ARE OPERATIONAL IN FIVE COUNTIES INCLUDING SUFFOLK COUNTY TODAY I AM JOINED BY MY COLLEAGUES AND COMRADES JAHNAVI MADHUBUTI WHO IS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE MASS BELL FUND. CASSIE HURD, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE MUTUAL AID OUR ADVOCACY PROGRAM AND MALLORY GENNARO, CO-DIRECTOR OF THE FAMILIES FOR JUSTICE'S HEALING.  I AM GOING TO START OFF BY GROUNDING US AND WHY AND ALONG WITH OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS MAP ENOUGH TO HAVE TAKING UP THIS ADVOCACY EFFORT TO DEFEND TO DEMAND TRANSPARENCY AND AN END TO THE CENTRAL BOOKING PROCESS AT NATIONAL RETAIL AND THEN I WILL PASS IT TO MY COMRADES WHO WILL DELVE DEEPER AND EXPAND ON WHAT HAS LED US TO BE HERE TODAY AND WHAT ACTIONS WE MUST TAKE FOR CHANGE.  THE WORK THAT OUR ORGANIZATIONS DO INDIVIDUALLY AND COLLECTIVELY CALL US FOR US TO BE ON THE GROUND BOTH WITNESSING AN EXPERIENCE,  SEEING THE STRUGGLES THAT OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS GO THROUGH, STRUGGLES THAT ARE CAUSED BY THE CRIMINALIZATION OF OUR PEOPLE STRUGGLING WITH HOMELESSNESS, SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER, MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES AND POVERTY.  THE MASS BAIL FUND IS IN THE JAIL LOBBIES IN FIVE DIFFERENT COUNTIES AND THAT INCLUDES SUFFOLK COUNTY JAILS, NATIONAL STREET JAIL AND SOUTH BAY HOUSE OF CORRECTIONS WHERE WE WITNESS AND HOLD PEOPLE'S TRUTH TRUTHS THAT ARE NOT PRETTY ELEGANT NOR POLITE OR REAL WE WITNESS OUR PEOPLE STRUGGLING TO BE WHOLE AGAIN AND THE ACT OF PAYING THEIR BAIL, GIVING THEM COURTS AND RESOURCE BAGS ALLOWS THEM TO STEP FORWARD IN THAT PROCESS OF BEING WHOLE AGAIN I USE THE PHRASE WHOLE AGAIN BECAUSE AS A WOMAN WHO SERVED 12 YEARS AT MCI FRAMINGHAM, I KNOW FIRSTHAND THE VERY, VERY DEEP LEVELS OF DEHUMANIZATION THAT OUR PEOPLE'S EXPERIENCE BOTH IN JAILS AND PRISONS IN MASSACHUSETTS THAT IS WHY THIS PANEL WAS BEFORE YOU AND OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS ARE INVESTED IN FIGHTING AGAINST CARCERAL EXPANSION IN ALL OF ITS FORM FORMS WHILE JAIL POPULATIONS ARE STEADILY DECLINING. SHERIFF'S BUDGET BUDGETS ARE INCREASING AND THE RESOURCES SUCH AS HOUSING AND CONSENT BASED CARE THAT OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS NEED TO SUSTAIN THEMSELVES STAY OUT OF COURT INVOLVEMENT ARE HISTORICALLY AND CHRONICALLY UNDERFUNDED. INSTEAD WE SEE CONTINUED CASTLE EXPANSION SUCH AS PROPOSALS FOR A REGIONAL LOCKUP OR CREATING A CENTRAL BOOKING PROCESS.  THESE MECHANISMS GIVE SHERIFFS OPPORTUNITIES TO EXPAND IN POWER AS WELL AS EXPAND THEIR BUDGET ALL THE WHILE TELLING THE COMMUNITY AND IS INCARCERATING THAT THEIR JAILS ARE SAFER THAN A TENT, A POLICE STATION OR THEIR VERY OWN COMMUNITY.  BUT MOSBY OFTEN ALONG WITH OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS AND MEMBERS KNOW UNDOUBTEDLY THAT JAILS AND PRISONS CAN NEVER BE SAFE WITH THE SEVEN DEATHS THAT OUR COMMUNITY IS STILL TRYING TO HEAL FROM HAPPENING IN SUFFOLK COUNTY JAIL IN THE LAST THREE AND A HALF YEARS. AGAIN, I WILL SAY THAT JAILS AND PRISONS CAN NEVER BE SAFE ESPECIALLY WHEN THE DEATHS OF OUR PEOPLE ARE MET WITH NO ACCOUNTABLE.  AT THIS TIME I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE TIME TO RAISE THE NAMES OF THOSE WHO HAVE PASSED AWAY IN SUFFOLK COUNTY JAILS. I SHOULD JOHNSON CARL CHUCK REBORN EDWARD ICE BURGER ASHLEY AMA RASHAWN WILSON CHERYL PEMBERTON AND CARL TAYLOR. THESE TRAGIC LOSSES ALONG WITH MANY MANY OTHER REASONS ARE WHY WE ARE HERE TO SAY TO THIS COUNCIL AND THE CENTRAL BOOKING PROCESS A NATIONAL ISSUE JOE ENDED THE TENSION AGREEMENT BETWEEN BPD AND SUFFOLK COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.  NO MORE BOSTON CITY TAXPAYER MONEY TO BE USED TO DETAIN OUR PEOPLE IN JAILS. STOP ARRESTING PEOPLE FOR DRUG USE AND FOR BEING UNHOUSED AND INVEST IN OUR COMMUNITIES BY INVESTING IN THEM PERMANENT LOW TRASH HOUSING. INVEST IN OVERDOSE PREVENTION CENTERS.  INVEST IN VOLUNTEER TREATMENT AND OTHER COMMUNITY BASED SUPPORT.  AND FINALLY, STOP CARCERAL EXPANSIONS IN ALL ITS FORMS.  THANK YOU. I WILL NOW TURN IT OVER TO JOHN. HAVE YOU MET A BUSHEY FROM THE MASS BELL PHONE?  THANK YOU SO MUCH JASMINE AND THANK YOU TO SPONSOR TANYA FERNANDEZ ANDERSON'S OFFICE AND CHAIR HENRY SANTANA'S OFFICE AND YOUR STAFFERS WHO HAVE BEEN INCREDIBLE AND ALL TO ALL THOSE WHO ARE PRESENT TODAY FOR THIS HEARING. THANKS FOR BEING HERE. YOUR ATTENDANCE IS IMPORTANT. MY NAME IS JOHN HARVEY AGAIN AND I AM THE DIRECTOR OF MASS BELL FUND. JASMINE EXPLAINED TO YOU WHAT WE DO AS AN ORGANIZATION. I'LL EXPAND ON THAT TO SAY THAT WE ALSO WORK TOWARDS ENDING PRETRIAL DETENTION AND SUPERVISION IN ALL OF ITS FORMS . WE SUPPORT PROTEST MOVEMENTS FOR JUSTICE AND WE REALLY THINK ABOUT IT AND IMAGINE A WORLD THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN THE ONE THAT WE LIVE IN RIGHT NOW AT THE BELL FUND. WE DO THIS WORK AS PEOPLE WHO HAVE SURVIVED JAILS AND PRISONS WHOSE LOVED ONES ARE CURRENTLY INCARCERATED OR INSTITUTIONALIZED AS SURVIVORS OF INTERPERSONAL VIOLENCE AND MANY OF US ARE CURRENTLY OR FORMERLY CAUGHT INVOLVED.  OUR VISION TO SEEK THE END OF WELL-PACED DETAINMENT THROUGH CASH BAIL AND TO END PRETRIAL DETENTION COMES WITH A DEEP UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT OUR COMMUNITIES NEED INSTEAD OF PUNISHMENT. I'M EXCITED FOR YOU ALL TO HEAR TODAY FROM OUR PANEL OF EXPERTS WHO'LL PRESENT WHAT OUR SOLUTIONS ARE WHILE WE'RE AT THIS HEARING, OUR STAFF CHRIS ROBLES AND DANIELLE TROUPE ALONG WITH OUR AMAZING VOLUNTEERS ARE POSTING OVER 40 BILLS TODAY INCLUDING AT SUFFOLK COUNTY JAIL AND HOUSE OF CORRECTIONS.  WE HAVE A DEEP AND VESTED INTEREST IN THE WELFARE OF THOSE WHO ARE POLICED AND INCARCERATED HERE. THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE THAT WE BAIL AND SUPPORT ARE POOR, UNHOUSED OR UNDER HOUSED AND ARE LIVING WITH DISABILITIES AND OR SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER.  PERSONALLY I'M A ROXBURY RESIDENT AND HAVE BEEN IN BOSTON RESIDENT FOR A DECADE DEDICATING MOST OF MY TIME HERE TO COMMUNITY ORGANIZING.  IN APRIL OF THIS YEAR I ALONG WITH 97 PEOPLE WERE ARRESTED BY STATE POLICE ON NORTHEASTERN CAMPUS WHILE WE WERE DEMANDING THE UNIVERSITY DIVEST FROM INVESTMENTS TO WEAPON MANUFACTURERS AND DEALERS THAT CONTRIBUTE TO THE US BACKED ISRAELI OCCUPATION OF PALESTINE. UPON ARREST WE WERE BROUGHT TO A NATIONAL STREET JAIL TO BE ESSENTIALLY BOOKED BECAUSE OF A DETENTION AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE MASSACHUSETTS STATE POLICE AND SUFFOLK COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT WHICH HERE ON I WILL RESPOND REFERRED TO AS SC, SD BECAUSE IT'S A MOUTHFUL. I AM BRINGING THAT EXPERIENCE ALONG WITH THAT OF HAVING A FAMILY MEMBER WHO WAS FORMERLY LIVING WITH ME BEGAN SURVIVING EN MASSE IN CARS AND SHELTERING AT SOUTHAMPTON STREET SHELTER FOR A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF 2022 AND 2023 AND I THINK YOU CAN SEE FOR ALL OF YOUR SUPPORT IN NAVIGATING THAT HE IS NOW CURRENTLY INSTITUTIONAL AS IN FALL RIVER. I BRING GRAVE CONCERNS ABOUT HOW MECHANISMS THAT ARE BEING BUILT OUT TO CRIMINALIZE AND INCARCERATE PEOPLE WILL AFFECT AND DO AFFECT ALL OF US.  BUT FIRST I WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE SOME HIGH LEVEL INFORMATION ABOUT THE REALITIES OF PRETRIAL INCARCERATION. I DO HAVE A SLIDE DECK THAT I WILL BEGIN FROM DATA PROVIDED BY MASTERCARD'S CROSS TRACKING PORTAL. YOU CAN SEE THIS GRAPH THAT SHOWS THE STEADY DECLINE IN JAIL POPULATION WITH SOME SMALL RISES AND PLATEAUING IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.  THE NOTICEABLE CHANGE BETWEEN 2017 AND 2018 BEGS THE QUESTION DID CASE LAW SUCH AS BRING IN VERSUS COMMONWEALTH AND OTHER REFORMS INCLUDED IN THE OMNIBUS CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM PACKAGE CONTRIBUTE TO THE DECLINE IN THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE BEING HELD PRETRIAL?  LOOKING AT THE SAME DATA AGAIN WITH RACIAL BREAKDOWNS IN JULY OF 2017 WE HAVE REPORTED NUMBERS OF 2075 WHITE PEOPLE 1093 LATINO PEOPLE, THOUSAND 236 BLACK PEOPLE AND I'M SORRY IF YOU CAN'T SEE THE NUMBERS ON THE GRAPH I AM TRYING TO READ THEM ALOUD. THE NEXT YEAR THE NUMBER OF WHITE PEOPLE FELL 2826 AND STEADILY DECLINED OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS. IN JULY OF 2024 THOSE NUMBERS ARE 8252 WHITE PEOPLE THOUSAND THREE AND 1051 LATINA PEOPLE AND THOUSAND 121 BLACK PEOPLE. IF WE LOOK AT THE PERCENTAGE TOTAL OF WHITE PEOPLE TO PEOPLE OF COLOR HELD IN 2017 2018 AND 2024 IN THE SAME DATA PORTAL. AND EVEN IF WE WERE TO FACTOR IN THE SMALL PERCENTAGE OF UNKNOWN RACIAL IDENTITIES IN THESE NUMBERS AND ASSIGN THEM TO PEOPLE OF COLOR, THE DATA WOULD STILL SHOW THAT THE DECREASE IN THE PRETRIAL POPULATION SINCE 2017 HAS BEEN BASICALLY AMONG WHITE PEOPLE PRETRIAL DETENTION AMONG PEOPLE OF COLOR, HOWEVER, HAS INCREASED IN BOTH RAW NUMBERS AND AS A PERCENTAGE SINCE 2017. SO WHILE THE JAIL POPULATION IS DECLINING, RACIAL DISPARITIES ARE INCREASING WITHIN OUR JAILS . IF WE ASSIGN THE JAIL DECLINE OF JAIL POPULATION TO REFORMS THAT HAVE PASSED, THEN THESE REFORMS HAVE LARGELY BENEFITED WHITE PEOPLE. ALONG WITH THESE REFORMS OUR ORGANIZATION CAN POINT TO THE HEAVY HANDED USE OF BAIL REVOCATIONS AND OTHER METHODS OF PRETRIAL INCARCERATION EXPONENTIAL INCREASE IN USE OF DANGEROUSNESS HEARINGS AS WELL AS THE SWEEPS OF UNHOUSED PEOPLE AS DRIVING RACIAL DISPARITIES AND CARCERAL CULTURE.  ANOTHER CONTRIBUTING FACTOR TO RACIAL DISPARITIES IN CARCERAL CULTURE IS WHERE WE ARE INVESTING OUR MONEY WHICH IS RIGHT BACK INTO JAILS AND CARCERAL SETTINGS OVER THE SAME TIME PERIOD WE CAN SEE BY DATA PROVIDED BY THE STATE BUDGET THAT BUDGET ALLOCATION TO SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENTS ACROSS THE STATE STEADILY INCREASES FROM 2022 TO 2024 AS JAIL POPULATIONS ARE DECLINING.  WE CONTINUE TO INVEST MORE MONEY INTO THE PLACES THAT JAIL PEOPLE FUELING A SELF-FULFILLING PROPHECY AND ALLOWING JAILS TO BE PROPOSED SOLUTIONS TO SOCIAL PROBLEMS.  IN TERMS OF UNDERSTANDING WHAT PEOPLE ARE BEING CHARGED WITH WHO ARE SITTING IN OUR JAILS, I DO NOT HAVE THAT SPECIFIC DATA TO OFFER BUT WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THE 2018 AND 2023 SNAPSHOT OF CHARGES FILED WITHIN THE MASS CHILD COURTS DASHBOARD IN 2018. MOTOR VEHICLE OFFENSES CONSTITUTED 36.6% OF ALL CHARGES FILED WITHIN. UNDER CHAPTER 90 OF THE MASS GENERAL LAWS OUT OF THE TOP 16 CHARGES THAT YEAR FOR A TOTAL OF 159,565 CASES 80% OF THEM WERE CASES THAT WERE FILED FOR NONVIOLENT CHARGES QUICKLY. LOOKING AT 2023 SHOWS A SIMILAR NARRATIVE. MOTOR VEHICLE OFFENSES CONSTITUTED A WHOPPING 38.1% OF ALL CHARGES FILED OUT OF THE TOP 16 CHARGES FOR A TOTAL OF 3000 370,000 CASES. 79% MEANING WERE NONVIOLENT CHARGES AS A BAIL FUND THAT HAS A COMPREHENSIVE APPLICATION PROCESS WHERE WE GATHER DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION AS WELL AS DETAILED CASE INFORMATION.  WE CAN TELL YOU TODAY THAT WE'VE POSTED 3293 BILLS AT SOUTH BAY HOUSE OF CORRECTIONS AND NASHUA STREET JAIL.  MAJORITY OF THOSE BILLS THAT WE'VE PAID WERE FOR PEOPLE BEING CHARGED WITH LOW LEVEL OFFENSES. THE OFFENSES OF BEING POOR,  UNHOUSED AND USING DRUGS IN PUBLIC. SO I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT THE INCREASE THE QUOTE UNQUOTE INCREASE IN DANGEROUS PEOPLE DOING VIOLENT CRIMES NARRATIVE THAT IS BEING PEDDLED IN RESPONSE TO MASS IN CARS AND IS USED TO JUSTIFY ESCALATED POLICE AND CARCERAL RESPONSE IS ROOTED IN RACISM AND CLASSISM AND IS NOT FACTUALLY PROVEN.  IN FACT THE DATA I HAVE JUST SHARED WITH YOU TELLS US OTHERWISE.  THIS RHETORIC HAS BEEN USED TO PUSH FOR ENCAMPMENT SWEEPS BY THIS ADMINISTRATION AND IT'S HUGELY IRRESPONSIBLE AND A COMPLETE LIE TO CONTINUE PUSHING THAT NARRATIVE. EVERY TIME THERE HAS BEEN AN ENCAMPMENT OR WARRANTS SWEEP EN MASSE IN CARS, THE PEOPLE IT MOSTLY AFFECT AND TARGETS ARE THOSE WHO ARE FACING THE CRIME OF TRYING TO SURVIVE WHILE UNHOUSED.  I PRAY NONE OF YOU OR YOUR LOVED ONES EVER HAVE TO ENDURE THE REALITIES OF SURVIVING UNHOUSED ON TOP OF THE REALITY OF AN ENTIRE MUNICIPAL COURT TO FIND WAYS TO DISPOSE OF YOU INSTEAD OF HELPING TO SOLVE YOUR SUFFERING.  WITH THE COST OF LIVING IN BOSTON BECOMING IMPOSSIBLE, SO MANY WORKING CLASS COMMUNITIES BEING PUSHED FURTHER AWAY FROM SUSTAINING THEIR LIVES AND DRIVEN INTO POVERTY RAMPANT MEDICAL AND EDUCATIONAL DEBT AND FUNDING CONTINUOUSLY PUMPED INTO THE POLICE WHO TO PROTECT THE INTERESTS OF THE ELITE. WE ARE ALL MUCH CLOSER TO THAT REALITY THAN WE THINK.  IF THAT WERE TO HAPPEN I HOPE PEOPLE DON'T TURN THEIR BACKS ON US THE WAY THE CITY OF BOSTON HAS TURNED ITS BACK ON ITS CURRENTLY UNHOUSED NEIGHBORS.  I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO MY COMRADE CASSIE HEARD'S TESTIMONY THAT WILL HOPEFULLY DISPEL SOME OF THE MISINFORMATION THAT HAS BEEN PUSHED BY THIS ADMINISTRATION ON HOW IT'S AFFECTED MASS INCARCERATION AND HOW ITS POLICIES HAVE AFFECTED MASS AND CAST RESIDENTS.  I WANT TO END THE CONTEXT I'M PROVIDING BY TAKING A LOOK AT THE WAYS THAT XD UNDERSHERIFF TOMPKINS AND UNDER HIS PREDECESSORS HAVE CONSISTENTLY INVITED POPULATIONS OF PEOPLE WHO SHOULD NOT BE AT THE JAIL IN AN ATTEMPT TO MAKE JAILS RELEVANT AND TO BUILD UP JOB POPULATIONS.  IN 2002 A SETTLEMENT WAS REACHED FOR MAC VERSUS SUFFOLK COUNTY WHICH ALLEGED THAT ALL WOMEN ARRESTED BY THE BOSTON POLICE DEPARTMENT AND WHO COULD NOT POST BAIL WERE TRANSPORTED TO THE SUFFOLK COUNTY JAIL FOR DETENTION PENDING AN INITIAL COURT APPEARANCE. THESE WOMEN WERE STRIP SEARCHED. THE JUDGE IN THAT SUIT FOUND THAT THE COUNTY'S SEARCH POLICIES DURING THE CLASS PERIOD WHERE FACIALLY UNCONSTITUTIONAL UNDER THE FOURTH AMENDMENT. THIS ATTEMPT AT A CENTRAL BOOKING PROCESS WITHIN NASH STREET JAIL CAME TO AN END WITH THE CONCLUSION OF THIS LAWSUIT WHICH MEANS THAT A CENTRAL BOOKING PROCESS WAS TRIED AND FAILED BECAUSE OF RIGHTS VIOLATIONS IN 20 2023 WHICH XD HAD TO PAY DAMAGES FOR.  IN 2003 THE CAC ENDED THEIR CONTRACT WITH IMMIGRATIONS AND CUSTOMS ENFORCEMENT AND EMPTIED OUT A UNIT THAT SERVED TOMPKINS PROPOSED SHOULD BE USED TO INVOLUNTARILY COMMIT PEOPLE WHO WERE UNHOUSED EN MASSE IN CASE IN 2021. IF I CAN READ FOR YOU THE SHERIFF'S OWN WORDS FROM A WBUR YOU ARE ARTICLE. LET'S FIND A WAY TO GET PEOPLE OFF THE STREET AND GET THEM INTO HOUSING WHERE THEY WOULD HAVE SHELTER, FOOD, OTHER MEDICATION THAT THEY NEED SHOWERS AND THE LIKE. WE JUST THINK IT'S A SMART IDEA TO GET PEOPLE IN A CONFINED SPACE WHEN THE WINTER IS COMING, HE SAID. IT'S GOING TO GET INCREDIBLY COLD HERE. TOMPKINS FIRST OUTLINED THE PLAN LAST LAST WEEK MEANING REFERENCE IN THE WB ARTICLE TO BOSTON GLOBE COLUMNIST SHIRLEY LONG. HE SAID THE BUILDING HAD THE CAPACITY TO TAKE UP TO 100 PEOPLE FOR 90 DAYS WITH DORM STYLE ACCOMMODATIONS INCLUDING COMMON AREAS WITH SOFAS AND OTHER COMFORTS SO IT WOULDN'T FEEL LIKE YOU'RE IN A PRISON WITH ADVOCATES RISING UP FIRMLY TO DENOUNCE THIS AS A HORRIBLE AND UNETHICAL PLAN AND THAT JAILS CAN NEVER BE HOUSING AS THEY ARE A LITERAL CAGE. THAT SAME YEAR TOMPKINS INVITED A KANGAROO COURT WITHIN THE SOUTH BAY HOUSE OF CORRECTIONS TO BRING PEOPLE IN ON WARRANT SWEEPS. THE ORGANIZATIONS BEFORE YOU THE ONES THAT ARE SEATED RIGHT HERE FORMED A COMMITTED OPPOSITION BY USING OUR COURT WATCH TACTICS TO SURFACE INFORMATION AND DEMAND THAT THE UNETHICAL AND DYSFUNCTIONAL JAIL COURT BE SHUT DOWN WITHIN THREE WEEKS OF OPERATING SESSIONS AT JAIL COURT WERE STOPPED. HOWEVER, WE COLLECTIVELY WITNESS DEHUMANIZING TREATMENT OF UNHOUSED PEOPLE DURING THE OPERATION OF JAIL COURT. THE ENCAMPMENT SWEEPS THAT YEAR AND THEN THE ENCAMPMENT SWEEPS AND CAMPING BAN ORDINANCE THAT THIS COUNCIL SHAMEFULLY PASSED LAST YEAR WHICH CYCLED MANY PEOPLE THROUGH OUR COUNTY JAILS . AS JASMYNE MENTIONED IN HER TESTIMONY IN OPENING ALL OF THESE EVENTS ARE HAPPENING WHILE SEVEN PEOPLE WHO WERE MOSTLY THERE FOR DRUG RELATED CHARGES DIED IN CUSTODY BETWEEN 2021 AND 2023. FIVE OF THEM IN A SIX MONTH PERIOD IN 2021. A CURRENT LAWSUIT HAS BEEN FILED BY THE FAMILY OF ISAIAH JOHNSON REST IN PEACE WHO WAS ILLEGALLY BROUGHT TO SOUTH BAY HOUSE OF CORRECTIONS PENDING TRANSFER TO A CIVIL COMMITMENT FACILITY. WE ARE ANGRY FOR ISAIAH, HER FAMILY AND THE MANY OTHER FAMILIES WHO HAVE GOTTEN NOTHING BUT HANDWASHING FROM THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT REGARDING THEIR UNTIMELY DEATH. THESE BELOVED COMMUNITY MEMBERS SHOULD BE WITH US AND SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN AT THE JAIL. SAME GOES FOR THE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE WHO ARE NOW BEING ESSENTIALLY BOOKED INTO THE FACILITY.  WE HAVE ALSO HEARD OF A RECENT VENTURE BETWEEN BOSTON MEDICAL CENTER AND ESD TO CREATE A 45 BAY UNIT WITHIN THE JAIL THAT SEEKS TO WORK AROUND THE FALSE CHOICE OF JAIL OR TREATMENT BY PROPOSING TREATMENT WITHIN JAIL. ALL OF THESE ATTEMPTS CONCLUDE FOR US THAT THE XD HAS CONSISTENTLY AND INAPPROPRIATELY USED THEIR POWER TO BRING PEOPLE TO THEIR FACILITY WHILE NEVER APPROPRIATELY USING THE SHERIFF'S STATUTORY POWER TO RELEASE PEOPLE FROM CUSTODY AND INTO COMMUNITY BASED PLACEMENTS . NEITHER JAILS NOR INCREASED CRIMINALIZATION WILL EVER HELP US SOLVE ISSUES OF HELPLESSNESS POVERTY, MENTAL ILLNESS OR SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER NO MATTER HOW MUCH JAILERS TRY TO INSERT THEMSELVES INTO THE CONVERSATION. SO WHY DOES ALL THIS MATTER AND WHAT DOES IT HAVE TO DO WITH A HEARING ORDER ABOUT PEOPLE BEING BROUGHT HERE AND FREE ARRAIGNMENT TO CENTRAL BOOKING ? I JUST WANT TO QUICKLY CLARIFY THAT THE LANGUAGE OF THIS HEARING ORDER DOES NOT FULLY CAPTURE THE ISSUE AT HAND. THE ISSUES WITH CENTRAL BOOKING THAT WE WILL BE HIGHLIGHTING IN OUR PRESENTATION ARE NOT ABOUT BAIL POLICIES THAT ARE ENACTED AND MANAGED BY THE TRIAL COURTS BUT SSD AND BPD IS RESPONSIBILITY TO ENSURE ACCESS TO BAIL CLERKS WHO DETERMINE THE MECHANISM OF RELEASE ON PERSONAL RECOGNIZANCE OR BAIL FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE BOOKED.  IT IS CRUCIAL TO US THAT WE UNDERSTAND THE ISSUE AT HAND SO THAT WE CAN DEMAND ACCOUNTABILITY FROM THE DECISION MAKERS THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE.  THE INFO I HAVE PROVIDED HERE TODAY CONTEXTUALIZES THE CASTLE CULTURES THAT ALLOWED FOR OCTOBER 31ST AND NOVEMBER 1ST 2023 TO HAPPEN. THESE ARE THE DATES WHEN BPD AND XD QUIETLY SIGNED A NEGOTIATED DETENTION AGREEMENT TO BE IMPLEMENTED AT THE NATIONAL STREET JAIL AND THE CITYWIDE ENFORCEMENT OF THE CAMPING BAN ORDINANCE TOOK PLACE SIGNALING A MAJOR SHIFT IN POLICY. THE DETENTION AGREEMENT ALLOWS BPD TO ARREST AND TRANSPORT PEOPLE TO A NATIONAL STREET JAIL WHERE THEY WOULD PROCESS AND BOOK A PERSON INTO CUSTODY PRIOR ARRAIGNMENT AND PAY 155 $150 A DAY PER PERSON AS NAMED IN THE COPY OF THE DETENTION AGREEMENT THAT WAS SHARED WITH US. ESSENTIALLY BPD CAN SHUT OFF LIABILITY OF RISK OF OVERDOSE DEATH OR INJURY TO THOSE IN CUSTODY TO XD THROUGH THIS ARRANGEMENT WHICH COMES AT THE TAIL OF AN ACTIVE WRONGFUL DEATH LAWSUIT ON BEHALF OF SHANE STILL STEPHAN'S FAMILY THAT THE CITY OF BOSTON IS FACING AFTER THREE DEATHS IN BPT CUSTODY IN 2019. BPD HAS CLAIMED CENTRAL BOOKING AS A COST SAVING THAT RETURNS OFFICERS TO THE STREET AND PROVIDES PEOPLE WITH MORE RESOURCES ACCESSIBLE AT A JAIL THAN AT A PRECINCT.  THE CLAIMS AROUND COST SAVINGS ARE NOT EVIDENT OR PROVEN. ACTUALLY RECENTLY AT A CITY COUNCIL HEARING BP CONFIRMED THAT IT STOPS THE CENTRAL BOOKING FACILITY 24 SEVEN BUT HAS NOT SUPPLIED ANY INFORMATION ON HOW MANY HOW MUCH THEY ARE SPENDING TO STAFF CENTRAL BOOKING OR THESE PURPORTED BUDGET SAVINGS. FURTHERMORE THROUGH THE DECADE THE NPF HAS BEEN BAILING. WE HAVE BEEN HYPER AWARE OF PRETRIAL POPULATIONS HAVING THEIR CARE CHRONICALLY AND GROSSLY MISMANAGED BY WELL PAST THE CURRENT CONTRACT MEDICAL PROVIDER AT SUFFOLK COUNTY JAILS. WHILE PATH HAS DONE YEARS OF DOCUMENTED HARM TO INCARCERATE POPULATIONS AND THE DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS HAS RECENTLY DISSOLVED CONTRACTS WITH THEM.  BUT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BELIEVE THAT MORE TRANSIENT POPULATIONS ARE GETTING RESOURCES AND MEDICAL ATTENTION AT THE SAME JAIL.  WE COMPLETELY OPPOSE THIS CLAIM AS UNTRUE AND HARMFUL AS IT DOES NOT REFLECT THAT MAJORITY EXPERIENCE PEOPLE HAVE THAT WE SUPPORT AND IT BEGS THE QUESTION WHICH POPULATIONS ARE BEING BROUGHT TO CENTRAL BOOKING?  HOW IS BPD MAKING THOSE DISTINCTIONS AND WHY JAILS ARE NOT PLACES FOR MEDICAL CARE? SO WHY WOULD A JAIL CLAIM THEY ARE ABLE TO OFFER THIS KIND OF CARE TO PEOPLE? WE ARE OF COURSE NOT ADVOCATING THEN THAT PEOPLE BE BOOKED AT A PRECINCT BUT RATHER THAT WE TAKE A LOOK AT HOW MUCH WE OVERUSE AND MISUSE CARCERAL INTERVENTIONS WHEN WHAT OUR PEOPLE NEED ARE RESOURCES AND SUPPORT. OUR COMRADE MALORIE AND NORA WILL DETAIL OUR SOLUTIONS AND DEMANDS AND EXPAND ON THIS QUICKLY.  GOING BACK TO THE CREATION OF CENTRAL BOOKING I HAVE TO HIGHLIGHT THAT NO PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT WAS MADE SIGNALING THIS POLISHED POLICY SHIFT AND NO COMMUNICATION PROTOCOL WAS PUT IN PLACE TO ENSURE THAT PEOPLE WHO WOULD BE BOOKED USUALLY BOOKED INTO A PRECINCT WOULD STILL HAVE ACCESS TO THEIR FAMILIES AND ACCESS TO A BAIL CLERK. WE BEGAN YELLING ABOUT THIS ISSUE BACK IN NOVEMBER 2023 AND SINCE THEN WE HAVE HEARD CRICKETS FROM THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND BPD AND HAVE GOTTEN ONLY SOME INFORMATION FROM CSG AS TO WHAT IS ACTUALLY TAKING PLACE WITHIN THEIR JAIL. AS FAR AS WE KNOW THERE WAS NO CONSULTATION OR COMMUNICATION WITH THE BOSTON MUNICIPAL COURTS BEFORE ROLLING OUT CENTRAL BOOKING AND IT HAS BEEN IMMENSELY FRUSTRATING TO NAVIGATE THIS ISSUE WITH THE LITTLE INFORMATION WE HAVE BEEN GIVEN WHICH IS WHY TODAY IS SO IMPORTANT.  IN SPITE OF THIS OPACITY AND LACK CONCERN AND URGENCY FROM THE INSTITUTIONS THAT WE HAVE NAMED, WE CLEARLY UNDERSTAND CENTRAL BOOKING PROCESS TO BE PART OF THE PLAN TO SWEEP UNHOUSED PEOPLE AND THOSE WITH DRUG RELATED CHARGES TO BE BROUGHT TO THE JAIL AND HELD FOR ARRAIGNMENT OFTENTIMES WITH NO DUE PROCESS.  THIS DUE PROCESS CONCERN IS CORROBORATED BY A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST RECEIVED AFTER MONTHS OF NON-RESPONSE FROM SD 487 PEOPLE WERE PROCESSED PRE ARRAIGNMENT BY BPD THROUGH THE NATIONAL STREET JAIL BETWEEN NOVEMBER 1ST AND MAY SIX UNDER CENTRAL BOOKING AND.  ONLY TWO OF THEM WERE RELEASED ON BAIL PRIOR TO ARRAIGNMENT. WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF THEM WERE ABLE TO ACCESS A BAIL COMMISSIONER IN THE FIRST INSTANCE OR HOW LONG PEOPLE WERE HELD UNTIL ARRAIGNMENT WHICH USUALLY WOULD BE THE NEXT BUSINESS DAY OR THE IMMEDIATE MONDAY IF YOU ARE ARRESTED AND BOOKED ON A FRIDAY AFTER 4 HOURS. HOWEVER, STARKNESS OF THESE NUMBERS SUGGESTS A HUGE DUE PROCESS ISSUE IS OCCURRING AT THE JAIL UNDER THIS NEW ARRANGEMENT.  OTHER LEGAL CHALLENGES TO THE CENTRAL BOOKING PROCESS INCLUDES THE QUESTION AUTHORIZATION WHILE THE DETENTION AGREEMENT NAMES THAT IT IS CONSISTENT WITH GENERAL LAW. CHAPTER 126 SECTION FOUR WHICH SAYS JAILS MAY ALSO BE USED FOR THE DETENTION OF PERSONS WITHOUT A WARRANT AND NOT ADMITTED TO BAIL PENDING APPEARANCE BEFORE THE DISTRICT COURT.  PROVIDED THAT NO ADEQUATELY EQUIPPED LOCKUP ESTABLISHED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROVISIONS OF SECTION 34 OF CHAPTER 40 IS AVAILABLE FOR THE DETENTION OF SUCH PERSON WE QUESTION WHO HAS THE AUTHORITY TO DEEM THAT A LOCKUP IS ADEQUATELY EQUIPPED OR NOT? AND HOW IS THAT CALCULATED?  WHAT MAKES A POLICE STATION NOT EQUIPPED SUDDENLY WHEN THAT HAS BEEN THE POLICY FOR YEARS AND WHY AROUND THE SAME TIME AS THE ENFORCEMENT OF THE CAMPING ORDINANCE?  WHILE THIS QUESTIONABLE POLICY HAS ALREADY BEEN BETWEEN BPD AND SD AND SUPPORTED BY THE MUNICIPALITY, THE FACT REMAINS THAT XD HAS BEEN TRYING TO GET LEGAL AUTHORIZATION TO CREATE A REGIONAL LOCKUP FACILITY IN SUFFOLK COUNTY IN THE LEGISLATURE.  THAT BILL HAS NOT PASSED FOR YEARS. WE STAND FIRMLY AGAINST THE APPROVAL AND CREATION OF A REGIONAL LOCKUP FACILITY NOW AND IN THE FUTURE IN ORDER TO UNDERSTAND THE ISSUES THAT PEOPLE WE WERE DEALING WITH PRE ARRAIGNMENT WERE DEALING WITH AT NASHUA STREET JAIL AND BACK THE MASS BAIL FUND CONDUCTED A SHORT SURVEY COMING OUT OF NASHVILLE STREET JAIL BETWEEN MAY AND JULY OF THIS YEAR.  WITHIN THE 13 SURVEYS WE WERE ABLE TO COLLECT FROM THOSE WHO HAD CONFIRMED THEY HAD BEEN CENTRALLY BOOKED. ALL OF THEM WERE BROUGHT FOR CHARGES OF LARCENY, POSSESSION OR DISTRIBUTION OR OUTSTANDING WARRANTS.  MULTIPLE PEOPLE SAID THEY WERE SHOCKED TO BE BROUGHT TO A JAIL AND DID NOT KNOW THE BAIL CLERK WAS CALLED AND THAT THEIR FAMILY WAS NOT ABLE TO FIND THEM AT THE JAIL. ONE PERSON ALLEGES TO US THAT THEY WERE HELD 30 DAYS BEFORE ARRAIGNMENT ON A NEW CASE. WE THINK THOSE WHO PARTICIPATED IN THE SURVEY WITHIN THE FIRST FEW MINUTES OF THEIR FREEDOM.  OUTSIDE OF THE SURVEYS WE'VE HEARD MULTIPLE STORIES FROM FAMILIES OF LOVED ONES BOOKED THROUGH CENTRAL BOOKING OF NOT BEING ABLE TO FIND FAMILY MEMBER. WHEN FAMILIES HAVE CALLED NASH JAIL TO ASK IF THEIR LOVED ONE IS THERE, THEY WERE WRONG. WRONGLY TOLD NO. LATER ON MASS BAIL FUND WAS ABLE TO CONFIRM THAT THEY ACTUALLY WERE THERE. WE'VE ALSO HEARD THAT PEOPLE DETAINED OVERNIGHT WERE JUST SLEEPING IN THE TANK AND NOT ACTUALLY ADMITTED INTO THE JAIL AND GIVEN A BED. WE'VE ALSO HEARD PEOPLE TELL US THAT THEIR LOVED ONE WAS HELD FOR DAYS TO A WEEK BEFORE ARRAIGNMENT. ALONG WITH WHAT I HAVE SHARED, THERE ARE OTHER ISSUES THAT DESERVE TO BE HIGHLIGHTED.  I WILL PASS IT TO MY COMRADE IN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF MATERIAL AID AND ADVOCACY PROGRAM CASSIE HURD SO DETAILED THE ISSUES OUR COMMITTEE MEMBERS ARE FACING WITH CENTRAL BOOKING. CASSIE AND MAB DO CRUCIAL AND LIFESAVING WORK SUPPORTING UNHOUSED COMMUNITIES IN CAMBRIDGE AND BOSTON AND THEIR ON THE GROUND. INTEL HAS BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN KNOWING WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT ENCAMPMENT SWEEPS AND CENTRAL BOOKING.  OUR ORGANIZATIONS HAVE GONE TO GREAT LENGTHS TO GET THE INFORMATION THAT OUR COMMUNITIES DESERVE TO HAVE FOR DECISIONS THAT DEEPLY IMPACT THEM WHEN THIS INFORMATION SHOULD BE READILY OFFERED TO US IN THE FIRST PLACE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO QUICKLY OUR TIME AND I DID WANT TO LET YOU FINISH. I JUST WANT TO BE MINDFUL OF TIME ON THAT TIME AND YOU ALWAYS WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO HAVE OTHER PANELISTS AND COUNCIL QUESTIONS TO GET TO. SO I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT BUT REALLY YOU KNOW, DID WANT TO LET YOU FINISH YOUR STATEMENT AND REALLY APPRECIATE YOU ALL BEING HERE. SO WE'LL CONTINUE WITH THAT. THANK YOU.  AGAIN, MY NAME IS KATHY HURD. I'M THE DIRECTOR OF THE MATERIALS AND ADVOCACY PROGRAM WHERE I'VE BEEN OFFERING DIRECT SUPPORT TO LEARNING FROM AND ORGANIZING ALONGSIDE UNHOUSED AND UNDER HOUSED COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND PEOPLE WHO USE DRUGS IN GREATER BOSTON AND CAMBRIDGE SINCE 2006. I WANT TO THANK THE HEARING TANIA FERNANDEZ ANDERSON AND CHAIR SANTANA AS WELL AS THEIR STAFF WHO HAVE BEEN SO INCREDIBLY HELPFUL AND THE COUNCILORS PRESENT. WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.  WE UNDERSTAND THE CRISIS OF HOMELESSNESS, PERSISTENT POVERTY AND PREVENTABLE OVERDOSE DEATH SHOULD BE THE CULMINATION AND INTERSECTION OF STARK INEQUALITY ROOTED IN RACISM SYSTEM FAILURE AND THE SKEWED PRIORITIES OF PEOPLE IN POWER. OUR MEMBERS ARE EXPERIENCING THE IMPACTS OF THESE INEQUALITIES IN POLICY CHOICES. AND TO BE CLEAR THEY ARE CHOICES EVERY DAY IN THE CITY OF BOSTON AND NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES WHERE THEY'RE FORCED TO MOVE BETWEEN BY LAW ENFORCEMENT IN THEIR PUBLIC AND PRIVATE POLICING PARTNERS.  AT THE CORE OF OUR WORK IS A COMMUNITY DROP IN SPACE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE UNHOUSED AND UNDER HOUSED PEOPLE WHO USE DRUGS. THOUGH LOCATED IN CAMBRIDGE, THE MAJORITY OF OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS COME FROM THE BOSTON AREA AND RECEIVE THE MAJORITY OF OTHER SERVICES IN BOSTON. AT MAP PEOPLE ACCESS MATERIAL AID, RESOURCE NAVIGATION, CONNECT WITH ADDICTION MEDICINE AND HARM REDUCTION PROVIDERS CONNECT TO LEGAL PARTNERS WHO SUPPORT PEOPLE IN IDENTIFYING AND CLEARING WARRANTS. PARTICIPATORY DEFENSE USE PHONES AND HAVE ACCESS TO COMPUTERS SAFETY PLAN HAVE RISK REDUCTION CONVERSATIONS. DISCUSS OVERDOSE RECENT OVERDOSES THAT HAVE HAPPENED.  HAVE CONVERSATIONS AROUND THOSE WHICH HAVE BEEN MORE CHALLENGING TO RESPOND TO WHERE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN PUSHED AWAY FROM EACH OTHER WHO ARE?  TO BE CLEAR THE FIRST RESPONDERS TO OVERDOSE. WE ALSO SPENT COUNTLESS HOURS ATTEMPTING TO ACCESS VOLUNTARY TREATMENT WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO ARE SEEKING EVIDENCE BASED CARE AND COMMUNITY BASED SETTINGS NOT COERCED TREATMENT IN CARCERAL SETTINGS FOR THEIR SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER. WE SPEND TIME WITH OUR MEMBERS MAKING PHONE CALLS WHEN OTHERS ARE MISSING CALLING HOSPITALS,  CHECKING IN WITH MEDICAL PROVIDERS, CALLING PRECINCTS, WORKING WITH LEGAL PARTNERS TO CHECK MASS COURTS AND CHECK IN WITH THE MEDICAL EXAMINER.  WE MOSTLY SPEAK WITH ROBIN. WE KNOW HER ON A FIRST NAME BASIS.  WE COULD NOT FIND ONE OF OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS RECENTLY FOR OVER A WEEK. WE WERE WORRIED FOR THE WORST. THEY WERE BEING HELD IN CENTRAL BOOKING. WE HAD CALLED EVERYWHERE AND COULD NOT FIND THEM. FOR MANY OF OUR MEMBERS WHERE THE ONLY PLACE THEY SPEND TIME THAT'S FREE OF SURVEILLANCE BY POLICE OR THEIR PRIVATE POLICING PARTNERS INCLUDING BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS AS WE KNOW THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SURVIVING HOMELESSNESS,  PERSISTENT POVERTY AND THE RACIST WAR ON DRUGS HAVE THE SOLUTIONS TO THE INTERCONNECTED SYSTEMS FAILURE. THEY ARE SURVIVING OR MORE ACCURATELY FIGHTING TO SURVIVE. MANY OF OUR MEMBERS JOIN TOGETHER TO BUILD COLLECTIVE POWER AND ORGANIZE TOWARDS THEIR CO-CREATED AND EVIDENCE SUPPORTED SOLUTIONS THAT WOULD BEST MEET THEIR NEEDS INCLUDING LOW BARRIER PERMANENT HOUSING THAT IS DECOUPLED FROM SOBRIETY ,EXPANDED HEALTH CARE AND HARM REDUCTION SERVICE SERVICES INCLUDING OVERDOSE PREVENTION CENTERS, VOLUNTARY SUBSTANCE TREATMENT ON DEMAND AND MOSTLY ENDING SYSTEMS OF HARM THAT NEGATIVELY IMPACT THEM AND TAKE THE LOSS OF THEIR LOVED ONES EVERYDAY.  THAT IS WHERE THE MAJORITY OF OUR ORGANIZING NOW IS AND TIME AND ORGANIZATIONAL ADVOCACY GOES TOWARDS FIGHTING TO PREVENT AND STOP FURTHER INVESTMENT IN CARCERAL SYSTEMS OF HARM. IN LARGE PART DUE TO THE CITY OF BOSTON'S ONGOING AND ESCALATING STRATEGIC CAMPAIGN OF CRIMINALIZATION TARGETING UNHOUSED PEOPLE AND PEOPLE WHO USE DRUGS. I'M HERE TODAY BECAUSE I AND MY PARTNERS HERE AND THOSE WE WORK WITH AND SERVE SEE HOW CENTRAL BOOKING SERVES AS A MEANS FOR MAYOR WU AND HER POLICING PARTNERS TO ENACT THE CITY OF BOSTON'S CAMPING BAN AND TO REITERATE WHICH WAS APPROVED AND COSIGNED BY THIS BODY AND DISAPPEAR UNSHELTERED COMMUNITY MEMBERS MOST OF WHOM USE DRUGS FROM THE STREETS AND CREATE THE ILLUSION OF A RESOLUTION TO THE SO-CALLED CRISIS AT MASS IN CARS. OUR COMMUNITY IS TRYING TO SURVIVE EVERY DAY.  I'M GOING TO SHARE A BIT ABOUT THE CITY'S HISTORY OF STRATEGIC INVESTMENT IN THE STRATEGY OF CRIMINALIZATION THAT HAS SPANNED FOUR MAILROOM ADMINISTRATIONS AND MADE THE CHOICE TO PURSUE IN RESPONSE TO THE PARTIALLY CITY CREATED CRISIS THAT EXISTED AND STILL EXISTS AT MARSTON CASS AND THE PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO SURVIVE THOSE CONDITIONS THAT HAVE CREATED BY THE CITY.  AS EVERYONE LIKELY KNOWS, FORMER MAYOR WALSH LAUNCHED OPERATION CLEAN SWEEP ON AUGUST 1ST, 2019 WITH A MONDAY NIGHT POLICE RAID THAT RESULTED IN 34 PEOPLE BEING ARRESTED THROUGH STOPS THAT CIVIL RIGHTS ADVOCATES, DEFENSE ATTORNEYS AND CONSTITUTIONAL LAW PROFESSORS HAVE STATED ARE UNCONSTITUTIONAL. IN 2020, FORMER MAYOR WALSH CODIFIED THIS WITH THE MASS AND CAST 2.0 PLAN. THE STILL HAD NOT BANNED UNHOUSED PEOPLE FROM SUPPORTING THEIR SURVIVAL USING TENTS OR INFORMAL HOUSING STRUCTURES.  IN 2021 INTERIM BOSTON MAYOR KIM JANEY'S EXECUTIVE ORDER THAT BANNED TENTS AND TEMPORARY SHELTERS WAS ENACTED. MAYOR WU THEN CODIFIED A MORE EXPANSIVE VERSION OF THIS ORDER LAST YEAR AFTER MAINTAINING IT WITH APPROVAL FROM A BODY SITTING HERE. SOME OF YOU WERE NOT YET.  DESPITE CLEAR OPPOSITION DEEP CONCERNS AND BASIC QUESTIONS ABOUT THE LEGALITY EFFICACY POLICIES PROCESS AND POTENTIAL IMPACTS RAISED BY MYSELF PUBLIC HEALTH, LEGAL EXPERTS AS WELL AS OVER TWO DOZEN COMMUNITY MEMBERS OVER TWO CITY COUNCIL HEARINGS AT THE ONSET OF OPERATION CLEAN SWEEP MAP AND OUR PARTNERS WERE CALLED UPON MANY OF WHOM ARE SITTING HERE BY THE BOSTON USERS UNION ,A GROUP OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO USE DRUGS MANY OF WHOM HAVE PASSED SINCE THIS ORGANIZING DUE TO DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY THE CITY'S INVESTMENT IN FURTHER OR FURTHER CARCERAL NON SOLUTIONS TO PROVIDE ON THE GROUND SUPPORT.  WHEN WE HEARD THIS WAS GOING TO BE ENACTED.  SINCE THEN WE'VE BEEN HELPING PEOPLE THROUGH SWEEPS OFFERING SLEEP SUPPORT, HELPING PEOPLE MOVE AND REPLACE BELONGINGS, LIAISING WITH POLICE AND DPW SHARING KNOW YOUR RIGHTS INFORMATION, OBSERVING AND DOCUMENTING WITH OUR PARTNERS IN THE NATIONAL LAWYERS GUILD AND THE ACLU SAFETY PLANNING OFFERING RESOURCES AND CONNECTION TO LEGAL SUPPORT THROUGH THE COMMITTEE FOR PUBLIC COUNCILOR SERVICES,  COURT WATCH AND OUR PARTNERS IN THE BAIL FUND AND FAMILIES FOR JUSTICE IS HEALING HEALTH CARE CONNECTIONS AND TRYING TO MAINTAIN CONTINUED HEALTH CARE THROUGH OUR PARTNERS WHO WORK IN THE AREA AND MANY OUTSIDE THE AREA. HAVING BEEN PERSONALLY PRESENT OFFERING DIRECT SUPPORT DURING THE CITY SWEEP SINCE 2019. THEY HAVE NOT BEEN ANY LESS TRAUMATIC OR HARMFUL TO MEMBERS . PEOPLE ARE STILL BEING COERCED OUT OF THEIR SELF-CREATED COMMUNITIES BY PEOPLE FLANKED BY POLICE OR IN SOME CASES PUBLIC HEALTH PROVIDERS WHO'VE BEEN FORCED INTO THE IMPOSSIBLE POSITION OF SUPPORTING MEMBERS AND COMING UP WITH PIECEMEAL PLANS SO THEIR PATIENTS DON'T FACE IMMEDIATE INCREASED CRIMINALIZATION AND POTENTIAL DEATH JEOPARDIZING THE HARD BUILT RELATIONSHIPS AND TRUST THEY HAVE CREATED OVER MANY YEARS. THE THREAT OF ARREST IS OMNIPRESENT. PEOPLE CRY AND SCRAMBLE TO PACK THEIR BELONGINGS. FOR MANY THE ONLY BELONGINGS THEY HAVE LEFT. I'VE TALKED WITH PEOPLE WHEN THEY HAVE LOST FAMILY MEMBERS ASHES WHEN THEY HAVE LOST JOURNALS THEY'VE KEPT THROUGHOUT THEIR TIME WHEN THEY WERE HOUSED, WHEN THEY WERE ON THE STREET. SPECIAL MEMENTOS FROM FAMILY MEMBERS WHO HAVE PASSED OR WHO THEY'RE NO LONGER CONNECTED WITH CONNECTION TO A LIFE THAT THEY WISH THEY WERE PROBABLY STILL PRESENT IN. AND PEOPLE WHOSE PRACTICAL THINGS RIGHT PEOPLE IS THE TOOLS THAT THEY NEED FOR SURVIVAL ALL THAT WE AND OUR PARTNERS OFTEN SPEND SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF OUR BUDGETS TO REPLACE OR THEY FIND THEIR OWN MEANS TO REPLACE THEMSELVES WHICH OFTEN LEADS TO FURTHER CRIMINALIZATION. THE NARRATIVE THE WORD MINISTRATION IS SHARED IS THAT THESE SWEEPS ARE PART OF A BROADER PUBLIC HEALTH AND PUBLIC SAFETY STRATEGY. HOWEVER, THE ADMINISTRATION IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THEIR POLICING PRIVATE BUSINESS PARTNERS AT THE NEW NEWMARKET BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT HAVE SIMPLY COME UP WITH MORE COVERT SYSTEMS TO ARREST UNHOUSED PEOPLE FROM THE AREA. SOME OF THESE STRATEGIES INCLUDED PREVIOUS PREVIOUS SWEEPS AND OFFENSES DURING THE JANEY ADMINISTRATION WHICH SHOULD BE KNOWN WHERE AT LEAST INITIALLY PAID FOR BY SHERIFF TOMPKINS WHICH SERVED TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF SPACE THAT PEOPLE WERE ABLE TO EXIST IN EVENTUALLY ONLY TO ATKINSON STREET WHICH INCREASED TENSIONS AND CONFLICT AMONG COMMUNITY MEMBERS AS THEY WERE NO LONGER EXISTS AND TO THE PLATE ABLE TO EXIST IN THE COMMUNITY WHERE THEY ACCESS SERVICE AND CARED FOR EACH OTHER AND LED TO SOME VIOLENCE BUT MOSTLY OVERPOLICING AND CRIMINALIZATION FOR DAILY SURVIVAL ACTIVITIES.  A REBRANDING OF TEMPORARY NON CONGREGATE SHELTER AS TRANSITIONAL HOUSING WHICH FOR THE MOST PART HAS CLOSED WITH NO ACTUAL HOUSING ON THE OTHER END OF IT COERCION INTO SO-CALLED TREATMENT WHICH YES IF WE LOOK AT THE CITY'S DASHBOARD PEOPLE MAY HAVE ACCESS TO IT BUT COERCED TREATMENT IS NOT SUSTAINABLE FOR PEOPLE AND IS ACTUALLY HARMFUL. WE KNOW THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN OVERDOSE DEATH FOR PEOPLE FOLLOWING FORCED TREATMENT OR COERCED TREATMENT AND ABSOLUTELY IT HAS BEEN SHARED THAT PEOPLE AGREED. HOWEVER, WHEN FACED WITH THE FALSE CHOICE OF TREATMENT VERSUS JAIL, MANY PEOPLE HAVE CHOSEN TREATMENT AS AND THE RESCINDING OF SERVICES THAT ARE ACTUALLY ROOTED IN PEOPLE SELF IDENTIFIED AND BASIC BODILY NEEDS THAT ARE SUPPORTED BY PEER REVIEWED PUBLIC HEALTH EVIDENCE. THE CITY HAS REMOVED THE SO CALLED TRANSITIONAL HOUSING AS I MENTIONED LEAVING MANY PEOPLE WITHOUT HOUSING TO TRANSITION BACK TO AND TO BE CLEAR BACK ON THE STREET TO BE CRIMINALIZED POTENTIALLY AS PART OF THIS LOCK UP THAT IS HAPPENING AND WARRANT SWEEPS WHICH I'LL MENTION IN A MOMENT.  THE CLOSURE OF A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR ENGAGEMENT CENTER ON ATKINSON STREET THAT SERVED AS A CLIMATE CONTROLLED INDOOR SPACE FOR PEOPLE TO SPEND TIME WITH THEIR BASIC BORROWING NEEDS OF USING A RESTROOM, ACCESSING POTABLE WATER, MEET WITH HEALTH CARE PROVIDERS, MEET WITH HOUSING NAVIGATORS AND CONNECT WITH TREATMENT. IF THAT WAS SOMETHING THEY WERE INTERESTED IN.  THIS PAST JUNE, MAYOR WU PIVOTED AWAY FROM FINDING A HIGHLY SUCCESSFUL NEEDLE BUYBACK PROGRAM WHERE COMMUNITY MEMBERS WERE ABLE TO EARN FUNDS MINIMAL FUNDS EVERY MORNING FOR CLEANING UP AND CONTRIBUTING TO THEIR COMMUNITY AND RETURNING SYRINGES THAT WERE USED INSTEAD AS INVESTED IN A SIGNIFICANTLY LESS EQUITABLE SYRINGE CLEANUP PROGRAM FUNDED BY THE BED IN ANTICIPATION OF SUMMER. MAYOR WU BEGAN DOUBLING DOWN ON THE DAILY DISPERSION OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS FROM THE AREA CERTAIN CITY PARTNERS AND HEALTH CARE PROVIDERS RECEIVED NOTICE FROM THE ADMINISTRATION THERE HAD BEEN INCREASED POLICE PRESENCE IN THE AREA AGAIN UNDER THE GUISE OF PUBLIC SAFETY TO REMOVE THOSE WHO WERE DANGEROUS AND POTENTIALLY TARGETING PEOPLE WHILE OFFERING CLAIMING TO OFFER THE FALSE CHOICE OF TREATMENT.  THEY WERE WORN CHECKING AS MANY PEOPLE AS THEY COULD WHO DID NOT ASSERT THEIR RIGHTS TO NOT HAVE AN ILLEGAL WARRANT CHECK AND ALSO OBVIOUSLY NEED TO NAME THAT THERE IS A POWER DYNAMIC THERE WHERE PEOPLE ARE NOT SAFE TO ASSERT THEIR RIGHTS. MOST TIMES THAT'S NOT WHERE OUR RIGHTS ARE UPHELD ON THE STREET . POLICE ARE ACTIVELY PUSHING COMMUNITY MEMBERS AWAY FROM HEALTH CARE FACILITIES INCLUDING ONES THE CITY FUNDS THEMSELVES. BOSTON POLICE ARE TARGETING MEMBERS WHERE THEY'RE RECEIVING MEDICAL CARE WHICH TO BE CLEAR IS NOW HAPPENING ON THE PHYSICAL STREET. SOMETIMES PROVIDERS ARE HAVING TO BLOCK OFF STREETS TO RESPOND TO URGENT MEDICAL CRISES OR JUST OFFER DAILY MEDICATION BECAUSE THEY NO LONGER HAVE THE ENGAGEMENT CENTER AND BECAUSE POLICE ARE PARKED OUTSIDE THEIR FACILITIES.  IT IS SO CLEAR THOSE DOING THIS WORK THAT THE SO CALLED OUTREACH IS HARMFUL THAT EVEN BOSTON'S OWN OFFICE OF RECOVERY SERVICES REFUSED TO PARTICIPATE . POLICE HAD TO ENLIST THE BEST TEAM.  IT IS POSSIBLE BUT WE DO NOT HAVE ADEQUATE INFORMATION FROM . THE ADMINISTRATION SINCE EVERYTHING HAS BEEN SO OPAQUE THAT COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO ARE ARRESTED ARE BEING BROUGHT THROUGH CENTRAL BOOKING.  WE HAVE LEARNED THAT AT LEAST SOME COMMUNITY MEMBERS ARE BEING BROUGHT TO PLYMOUTH FOR COERCED TREATMENT.  THE NEGATIVE IMPACTS OF THESE ACTIONS ON OUR COMMUNITIES INCLUDING THE OF OUR LOVED ONES ARE NOT CAPTURED ON THE CITY'S DATA DASHBOARDS TOUT THE SUCCESSES OF THIS COLLECTIVE PROJECT OF THE COUNCIL AND THE CITY ADMINISTRATION.  BUT WE DO KNOW THAT EVIDENCE SHOWS AND WE HAVE LOST LOVED ONES SO KNOW THAT THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT INCREASED RISK IN OVERDOSE DEATH. THAT SHOULD BE CLEAR AS PREVENTABLE WHEN WE SEPARATE COMMUNITY FROM EACH OTHER AND INCARCERATE PEOPLE.  COMMUNITY MEMBERS RESPOND TO EACH OTHER EVERY DAY AND ARE LESS ABLE TO DO SO WHEN THEY'RE DISCONNECTED FROM EACH OTHER. WHEN THEY'RE DISCONNECTED FROM PROVIDERS. I JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT THE RISK OF FATAL OVERDOSE IS 120 TIMES HIGHER AMONG PEOPLE WHO HAVE RECENTLY BEEN RELEASED FROM CORRECTIONAL FACILITIES.  SO NOT ONLY HAVE EIGHT PEOPLE DIED UNDER TOMPKINS IN RECENT YEARS PEOPLE ARE AT INCREASED RISK FOR DEATH FOLLOWING BEING RELEASED.  PEOPLE ARE EXPERIENCING CONTINUOUS INTERRUPTIONS IN MEDICAL CARE PREP AND PREP HCV TREATMENT TESTING IS EVEN DOWN WHICH IS ALARMING AS COMMUNITY INCREASED OR EXPERIENCED AN INCREASE IN ESCALATING UNPREJUDICED UNPRECEDENTED HIV OUTBREAK TWO YEARS AGO PRIOR TO MAY 2023 WHEN SWEEPS REALLY STARTED GEARING UP.  THERE WERE OVER 100 ENCAMPMENT RESIDENTS WHO RECEIVED DAILY MEDICATIONS FOR THE TREATMENT OF HIV. AS OF AUGUST 2023, ONLY 25 RECEIVED DOTTI AND FOR MAJORITY COMMUNITY MEMBERS ARE NOT RECEIVING DOTTY IN THE AREA ANYMORE BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN FULLY DISPERSED. I ALSO WANT TO NOTE OVERDOSE DEATHS ARE DOWN IN MY IMMEDIATE AREA AND JUST LIKE TO BE CLEAR THAT IS BECAUSE COMMUNITY MEMBERS HAVE BEEN PUSHED OUT OF THE AREA.  IT IS NOT BECAUSE ANY OF THIS IS WORKING TO SERVE TO SUPPORT PEOPLE WHO USE DRUGS OR REDUCE OVERDOSE DEATH.  YOU KNOW, WE KNOW HOUSING IS THE SOLUTION TO HOMELESSNESS RIGHT.  AND ALL OF THESE ACTIVITIES MAKE IT LESS LIKELY FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS ACTUAL HOUSING DUE TO COURT STATUS.  CURIOUSLY, AS MENTIONED BY JOANNA B AND JASMINE. CENTRAL BOOKING HAS NOT BEEN INCLUDED IN ANY PUBLIC PLANS OR EVEN WITH YOU ALL WHICH I HOPE YOU ARE OUTRAGED BY. I WANT TO QUICKLY SHARE THE IMPACTS AND WHAT PEOPLE WE WORK ALONGSIDE WHO WE DEEPLY LOVE, WHO HAVE EXPERIENCED AND BEEN BROUGHT THROUGH CENTRAL BOOKING . PEOPLE HAVE NOTED THE PROCESS IS CONFUSING.  ONE PERSON WAS DRIVEN FROM THE MASS AND CASTE AREA ACROSS THE CITY TO A PRECINCT WHERE THEY WERE KEPT OUTSIDE.  THEN THEY WERE DRIVEN BACK TO NASHUA OR OVER TO NASHUA WHERE THERE WAS MINIMAL ACCESS TO MEDICATION NO ABILITY TO ACCESS OR CONNECT WITH MEDICAL PROVIDERS AND JUST BASIC INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT WAS HAPPENING ONLY TO WAIT DAYS FOR ARRAIGNMENT.  WE ALSO KNOW THAT THERE IS POTENTIALLY A PROJECT HAPPENING BETWEEN BOSTON MEDICAL CENTER AND THE SUFFOLK COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AT NASHUA STREET WHERE PROVIDERS WOULD BE PLACED TO CREATE A PRETRIAL PROGRAM FOR MEN WITH SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER OR ARE EXPERIENCING CHALLENGES WITH THEIR BEHAVIORAL HEALTH. AND JUST TO REITERATE LIKE COERCED TREATMENT IS NOT TREATMENT AND TREATMENT INSIDE CARCERAL SETTINGS DOES NOT SERVE PEOPLE.  IT ONLY SERVES TO CAUSE HARM AND POTENTIALLY KILL PEOPLE.  I ALSO WANT TO REMIND THE COUNCIL THAT THE CURRENT CONDITIONS AND INTERCONNECTED CRISIS UNHOUSED PEOPLE SHARE EXCUSE ME MY MAN. YES. SORRY WE IT'S BEEN AN HOUR AND THIS IS SUCH IMPORTANT INFORMATION BUT THEN THAT LEAVES US VERY SHORT TIME FOR QUESTIONS.  SURE. IS IT OKAY IF WE CAN ENTER ONE FINAL ONE MINUTE, MAYBE FIVE. SORRY . NO, NO, NO. I HAVE LIKE LITERALLY ONE FINE OR ELSE WE WILL NOT HAVE TIME FOR CONVERSATION. YEAH. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I ACTUALLY MY FINAL COMMENTS ARE SORT OF RECENT PRESS AND ON POLICY ORDER I SAW THAT WAS BROUGHT FORWARD BY YOU AND COUNCILOR FLYNN FOR A HEARING TO BE SCHEDULED ON THE CONTINUED CHALLENGES AROUND MASS AND CASS REAFFIRMS THAT WE'VE BEEN SAYING CRIMINALIZATION IS COUNTERPRODUCTIVE.  YOU KNOW, PEOPLE AS I SAID ARE PRACTICING COMMUNITY CARE AND WHILE SURVIVING IN A TENT IS BY NO MEANS ANYONE'S IDEAL LIVING SITUATION, PEOPLE HAVE NOT BEEN OFFERED A HEALTHIER ALTERNATIVE AND ARE BEING FORCED INTO WHAT IS CLEARLY LESS SAFE SITUATIONS BY BEING CAGED.  AND I JUST WANT TO NOTE, YOU KNOW, ON A PERSONAL NOTE I GREW UP IN QUINCY. I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF ALLSTON FOR 20 YEARS. MANY OF THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS I SERVED AND WORK ALONGSIDE ARE LIFELONG FRIENDS. YOU KNOW, WE'RE LIKE FAMILY WOMEN. I GREW UP PLAYING SOCCER AND SOFTBALL WITH FORMER COWORKERS WHO I WAS A PEER PREVENTION AND HARM REDUCTION EDUCATOR WITH IN HIGH SCHOOL. MY MIDDLE SCHOOL BULLY A HOMECOMING DATE FORMER HOUSEMATES NEIGHBORS WHO ARE INCREDIBLE PEOPLE WHO ARE EXPERIENCING INCREDIBLE CHALLENGES. MANY OF THEM AT THE HANDS OF THE CITY. I'VE LOST MANY OF THESE COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND THEIR DEATHS WERE PREVENTABLE.  PEOPLE ARE TAKING CARE OF EACH OTHER AND I THINK WE NEED TO BE DOING MORE TO BE TAKING CARE OF PEOPLE WHO ARE PART OF OUR COMMUNITY.  AT THE MAYOR'S REQUEST, THE LEADERSHIP ORGANIZATION AND OTHERS HELPED MAYOR TO CREATE HER CAMPAIGN PLATFORM TO SUPPORT PEOPLE WHO ARE UNHOUSED AND PEOPLE WHO USE DRUGS WHILE SHE HAS TURNED HER ENTIRE BACK ON THAT PLATFORM. MY HOPE IS THAT THE COUNCILORS IN THIS ROOM WILL LEAVE HERE TODAY WITH MORE INFORMATION AND A RENEWED COMMITMENT TO PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING THEIR BEST TO SURVIVE IN THE MIDST OF UNSURMOUNTABLE CONDITIONS THAT WE CAN MAKE EASIER AND DO EVERYTHING IN YOUR POWER TO GET ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE BEEN UNABLE TO GET STOP THIS CENTRAL BOOKING PROCESS THAT COULD LEAD TO A REGIONAL LOCK UP AND RESCIND THE CAMPAIGN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.  I'LL PASS IT TO MALLORY AND I'LL I'LL GREATLY ABBREVIATE MY REMARKS BECAUSE I DO YOU KNOW, VALUE THE SPACE IS ESSENTIALLY AN EVIDENTIARY HEARING FOR US TO REALLY LEARN WHAT'S GOING ON SO I'M GOING TO JUST SURFACE JUST SOMETHING VERY IN THE WEEDS THAT I THAT I WANT TO THE WHAT YOU WANT TO THINK ABOUT IN TERMS OF YOUR FUNCTIONS AS YOUR OFFICES IS CONSTITUENT SERVICES . I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE DON'T KNOW AND I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING ON THE GROUND TO TAKE CARE OF OUR COMMUNITIES AND WHAT WE THINK COULD BE DIFFERENT. SO MANY OF US SOME OF US HAVE BEEN ARRESTED INCLUDING MYSELF IN BOSTON. MANY OF OUR LOVED ONES HAVE I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE THAT PERSON IN YOUR FAMILY OR COMMUNITY THAT GETS THE CALL AT 12 OR THREE OR FOUR BUT I'M A PERSON SO MAYBE YOU KNOW HOW THAT HAS WORKED, MAYBE YOU HAVEN'T. AND AS INCREDIBLY TRAUMATIC AS AN ARREST IS FOR AT LEAST WE SORT OF KNOW HOW IT WORKS, RIGHT? YOU CALL THE PRECINCT REPEATEDLY, YOU STAY ON THEIR BEHINDS TO GET THEM TO CALL THE BAIL COMMISSIONER. YOU LEARN HOW MUCH IT IS AND YOU GO DOWN THERE AND YOU GET YOUR PERSON MAYBE SOMEBODY HAS ARE YOU CALLED YOUR OFFICE? MAYBE HAVE IT. BUT IF A MOTHER WAS TO CALL YOUR OFFICE AND SAY I CAN'T FIND MY KID THEY WERE ARRESTED DOWN THE STREET. I CALLED, YOU KNOW, C 11 OR I CALLED E 13 AND THEY'RE NOT THERE AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY ARE.  WHAT SHOULD I DO? WHAT WOULD YOU TELL THEM?  WHAT NUMBER WOULD YOU GIVE THEM TO CALL AND HOW WOULD YOU EXPLAIN THE PROCESS OF ADVOCATE TO HAVE THEM RELEASED FROM CUSTODY KNOWING THAT ENTERING COURT ON YOUR OWN TWO FEET SHOWERED AND WITH YOUR MEDICATION IS THE BEST POSSIBLE WAY TO POSITION YOURSELF IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE PROSECUTED NOT TO MENTION THE FACT IF YOU HAVE CHILDREN OR ANY OTHER URGENT MATTER THAT BEING DETAINED FOR ANY AMOUNT OF TIME IS GOING TO COMPLETELY DERAIL.  SO IF YOU DON'T KNOW THE ANSWERS TO THOSE QUESTIONS,  THAT'S A MASSIVE PROBLEM FOR YOUR ABILITY TO SERVE YOUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS.  RIGHT. ALSO WE KNOW THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REALLY VULNERABLE FOLKS.  MAYBE THEY DON'T HAVE FAMILY THAT THEY'RE CONNECTED WITH CURRENTLY THAT ARE CALLING TO ADVOCATE FOR THEM OR THEY DON'T HAVE THAT CAPACITY EVEN STILL. IS IT OKAY FOR US TO JUST SEED PEOPLE'S BASIC CIVIL CONSTITUTIONAL AND HUMAN RIGHTS OUT OF A COMPLETELY OPAQUE AND NOT TRANSPARENT PROCESS THAT NOBODY HAS FIGURED OUT OR ANNOUNCED PUBLICLY AND IN ALMOST TEN MONTHS? SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE. I CALLED THE OTHER DAY AND I HAPPEN TO HAVE BAILED OUT MANY, MANY DOZENS OF PEOPLE FROM NASHVILLE STREET AFTER THEIR ARRAIGNMENT. SO I KNOW HOW THE PROCESS WORKS BUT I TALKED TO A VERY, VERY NICE STAFF PERSON AND SAID WHAT IF I CALLED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN? BUT IN ORDER FOR ME TO GET A HUMAN BEING ON THE PHONE IF YOU CALL THE SUFFOLK COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, YOU MIGHT KNOW THAT THERE'S AN OVERWHELMING MENU THAT YOU HAVE TO NAVIGATE TO TRY TO TALK TO A HUMAN BEING IF YOU CHOOSE IF YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW THAT CENTRAL BOOKING IS AT NASHUA STREET WHICH YOU MIGHT NOT BECAUSE THERE'S NO PUBLIC NOTICE OF THAT YOU GET CONNECTED TO NASHUA STREET IF YOU CHOOSE THE BAIL OPTION YOU GET A CONFUSING MESSAGE ABOUT HOW THE BAIL MAGISTRATE COMES AFTER 5:30 P.M. WHICH DOESN'T APPLY TO YOUR LOVED ONE BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ARRAIGNED YET AND THEN THEY'LL CONNECT YOU TO THE RECORDS DEPARTMENT IF THE RECORDS PERSON IS STILL IN THE OFFICE AND IF THEY'RE NOT MAYBE YOU'LL GET ANOTHER HUMAN BEING WHO WILL THEN TRANSFER YOU DOWNSTAIRS. SO I KNOW THAT THIS IS FIGURE OUT A BILL BUT IT'S JUST ANOTHER NIGHTMARE ON TOP OF FAMILIES THAT MIGHT BE GRIEVING OR IN CRISIS OR STRUGGLING TO TRY TO TAKE CARE OF EACH OTHER. SO I JUST WANTED TO RAISE THAT. SO THIS IS WHAT WE SENT YOU A LETTER OF THE THINGS THAT WE DON'T KNOW BUT I JUST WANT TO READ THEM INTO THE RECORD SO THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT WITH OUR UPCOMING PANELISTS. WAS LEGAL AUTHORITY ESTABLISHED TO OPERATE THE CENTRAL BOOKING FACILITY AND IF SO HOW? WHO IS BEING BROUGHT TO CENTRAL BOOKING AND ACTUAL STREET WHO IS DECIDING WHICH PEOPLE WILL BE PROCESSED AT CENTRAL BOOKING AND HOW ARE THEY MAKING THAT DECISION? PLEASE ENUMERATE ALL THE DECISION MAKING FACTORS INCLUDING ARREST, LOCATION, INCIDENT TYPE AND ALLEGATIONS, OFFENSE CHARGED GENDER ETC. WHAT ARE THE BPD DIRECTIVES AROUND ARREST RELATED TO THE ENCAMPMENT BAN ENFORCEMENT IN THE MARSTON CASS AREA AND ANY CHANGES IN ARREST POLICY SINCE THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE CENTRAL BOOKING UNIT AND I WANT TO FLAG THIS BECAUSE THE WU ADMINISTRATIONS PERSPECTIVE IS THAT ARRESTS RELATED TO THE CAMPING BAN ARE NOT HAPPENING.  THAT IS SIMPLY A ONE VERSION OF TELLING THE STORY. THAT'S NOT THE TRUE ONE RIGHT? THERE HAS BEEN A MARKET INCREASE IN ARRESTS FOR THINGS LIKE OPEN CONTAINERS AND THE POSSESSION OF DRUG PARAPHERNALIA NOT DRUGS THEMSELVES.  SO CLEARLY THERE HAS BEEN AN ESCALATION IN ENFORCEMENT AND I'M TALKING TO THE TUNE OF 25% INCREASE. SO MAYBE THAT'S NOT AND NOT TO MENTION TRESPASSING ARRESTS WHICH HAVE ALSO INCREASED OVER 20%. SO THERE'S THE DIRECTIVE THAT HAS INCENTIVIZE RAISED AND ESCALATED THIS TYPE OF ENFORCEMENT WHICH IS CHURNING MORE PEOPLE INTO THE CRIMINAL LEGAL SYSTEM WITH LESS INFORMATION ABOUT HOW TO ADVOCATE TO GET THEM OUT. AND WE FIND THAT TO BE DEEPLY PROBLEMATIC.  WHAT UNITS WERE RELOCATED WITHIN THE NASHUA STREET JAIL AND TO WHERE TO ALLOW SPACE FOR THE BPD AND STATE POLICE BOOKING UNITS AND HOW HAS THAT IMPACTED DETAINED AND INCARCERATED PEOPLE? REMEMBER THERE ARE PEOPLE HELD FOR MONTHS OR YEARS BEFORE THEIR TRIAL UPSTAIRS AT NASHUA STREET. ARE THEY CLOSER TOGETHER? ARE THEY MORE OF THEM?  ARE THEY LIVING IN LESS SAFE CONDITIONS BECAUSE CENTRAL BOOKING IS HAPPENING? WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IF ANY PHYSICAL CHANGES WERE MADE TO NASHUA STREET JAIL IN SOUTH BAY IN ORDER TO FACILITATE THE CENTRAL BOOKING PROCESS, WHAT STAFFING CHANGES WERE MADE WHEN PEOPLE ARE ADMITTED TO JAIL OVERNIGHT OR OVER THE WEEKEND? ARE THEY SLEEPING IN BEDS IN A UNIT OR ARE THEY DETAINED IN THE EQUIVALENT OF A BOOKING CELL?  HOW ARE MEALS PROVIDED? HOW ARE THEY SCREENED FOR MEDICAL NEEDS OF THE ONLY TALKED ABOUT MEN SO FAR WE'RE AN ORGANIZATION THAT'S DEDICATED TO ENDING THE INCARCERATION OF WOMEN AND GIRLS. WHAT IS HAPPENING TO WOMEN? WE WERE ASKING FOR WEEKS BEFORE WE HEARD ANYTHING OR ANY INDICATION OF WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH OUR SISTERS. WE BELIEVE THAT THEY'RE BEING PROCESSED AND DETAINED AT C SIX. WE'D LIKE THAT TO BE CONFIRMED. WHAT CHANGES, IF ANY HAVE BEEN MADE TO THE LOCKUP THERE TO MAKE IT QUOTE UNQUOTE GENDER SPECIFIC? HOW MANY WOMEN HAVE BEEN PROCESSED AND DETAINED AT C SIX FOR WHAT CHARGES AND HOW MANY WOMEN HAVE BEEN ABLE TO BE BAILED OUT BEFORE THEIR ARRAIGNMENT ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING THAT WOMEN ARE LIKELY TO BE MOTHERS AND MAYBE HAVING LEFT CHILDREN.  WHAT MEDICAL SCREENING AND SUPPORT IS BEING OFFERED TO THOSE BEING BROUGHT TO CENTRAL BOOKING WHAT SERVICES, ACCOMMODATIONS OR CARE IS AVAILABLE IS THE BOSTON POLICE DEPARTMENT RELIABLY AND CONSISTENTLY CALLING THE BAIL MAGISTRATE OR THE BAIL COMMISSIONER FOR DETAINED PEOPLE TO PEOPLE GETTING ACCESS TO BAIL BEFORE THEIR ARRAIGNMENT OUT OF 487. IT IS IN POSSIBLE TO THINK THAT THERE IS A CONSISTENT AND EQUITABLE PROCESS GOING ON THAT IS SUCH A LOW NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE HAD ACCESS TO BAIL BETWEEN NOVEMBER AND MAY. HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN DENIED BAIL OVER COGNIZANCE AT NASSAU STREET JAIL THROUGH THE BOOKING PROCESS BECAUSE OF INCOMPLETE INFORMATION AND A LACK OF NECESSARY DOCUMENTATION IN THE HANDOFF FROM BOSTON POLICE DEPARTMENT TO THE SUFFOLK COUNTY JAIL DURING A DURING THE BOOKING PROCESS AND HOW CAN FAMILY MEMBERS AND FIND THEIR LOVED ONES AND GET INFORMATION ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT I'VE DESCRIBED. SO THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS I KNOW WE HAVE SHORT TIME. I CAN'T WAIT TO GET TO THOSE AND I DO JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT OUR ORGANIZING MODEL IS CALLED REIMAGINING COMMUNITIES. IT'S LED BY MY CO-DIRECTOR SASHI JAMES SPECIFICALLY CALLED THAT BECAUSE WE ARE REIMAGINING COMMUNITIES AND NOT JAILS OR PRISONS. THE SUFFOLK COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT HAS PROPOSED OVER AND OVER AGAIN WE'LL PAINT THE WALLS, WE'LL PUT UP TVS, WE'LL MAKE IT DORM STYLE LIVING JAIL IS JAIL IS JAIL AND IT IS TIME FOR A DIFFERENT APPROACH AND COMMUNITIES ARE LEADING ORGANIZING ON THE GROUND TO IMPLEMENT THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WOULD TAKE CARE OF OUR FOLKS. WE HAVE A GUARANTEED BASIC INCOME PROGRAM DIRECT CASH RELIEF TO PEOPLE THAT THEY NEED IT SO THEY CAN STAY HOUSED AND STAY OUT OF THE GRIPS OF THE SYSTEM.  RIGHT. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS THAT OUR PEOPLE ARE RUNNING AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT PARTICIPATORY DEFENSE TO PROTECT OUR PEOPLE FROM THE SYSTEM.  WE HAVE JOB TRAINING PROGRAMS LIKE A COMMERCIAL DRIVER'S LICENSE COURSE SO THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE COULD BE DOING DIFFERENTLY AND TO ENUMERATE THEM ONE MORE TIME WE ARE SEEKING AND DEMANDING LOW BARRIER HOUSING RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS AND MORE VOUCHERS. COMMUNITY LED CARE IN CRISIS RESPONSE TEAMS WHICH WE'RE ALSO DEVELOPING AT OUR ORGANIZATION BY THE WAY THE ADMINISTRATION DECIDED NOT TO FUND DESPITE CAMPAIGNING ON THIS BEING A GOOD IDEA CONSENSUAL DIGNIFIED ON DEMAND TREATMENT, SAFE SITES, INCREASED ACCESS TO CONSENSUAL MENTAL AND PHYSICAL HEALTH CARE AS I MENTIONED GUARANTEED BASIC INCOME PROGRAM AND AN INCREASED INVESTMENT IN PARTICIPATORY BUDGETING. SO OUR PEOPLE OURSELVES CAN DECIDE THE SOLUTIONS THAT ARE BEST FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.  SO THANK YOU AS MY COLLEAGUES HAVE SAID, WE ARE SEEKING ALL THE ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS THAT I MENTIONED A REPEAL OF THE ENCAMPMENT BAN AN END TO THE SWEEPS AND THE WARRANT CHECKS AND AN IMMEDIATE REVERSAL OF THE POLICIES THAT HAVE ESCALATED THIS LEVEL OF ARRESTS ON THE STREET AND A REMOVAL OF POLICE FROM THE PLACES WHERE PEOPLE ARE SEEKING CARE AND SHELTER AMONG THE OTHER SOLUTIONS THAT I NAMED. SO THANK YOU.  I KNOW IT WAS QUITE A LONG TIME OF LISTENING AND I BEG YOUR FORGIVENESS FOR THAT.  IT'S JUST BEEN TEN MONTHS OF REALLY YELLING INTO THE VOID ABOUT LIKE WHAT'S GOING ON FOR OUR FOLKS AND I THINK IT'S FOLKS THAT ARE EASILY DISMISSED OR DEHUMANIZED AS YOU KNOW, NOT THE RESIDENTS THAT YOU THINK OF COMING TO YOUR EVENTS BUT THESE ARE OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND ARE OUR LITERAL FAMILY MEMBERS AND PEOPLE THAT WE OWE A LOT MORE TO THAN WHAT THEY'RE GETTING. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.  THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU ALL FOR FOR THAT PRESENTATION.  I'D LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE AT THIS TIME THAT WE HAVE ALSO BEEN JOINED BY COUNSELOR GABRIELLA COLETTA FROM DISTRICT GABRIELLA COLLETTE US ABOUT THAT FROM DISTRICT ONE AND THEN ALSO COUNCILOR BRIAN MORALES FROM DISTRICT FOR I'D LIKE NOW TO INVITE THE SPONSOR TO BEGIN WITH A ROUND OF QUESTIONS FOR THIS PANEL AND THEN I WOULD TURN ON THE FLOOR OVER TO MY COLLEAGUES IN ORDER OF ARRIVAL AND I'LL GO LAST AND JUST TO LET MY COLLEAGUES KNOW THE PLAN FOR THE REST OF THE HEARING, I'M GOING TO ASK THE MEMBERS OF OUR FIRST PANEL WHO ARE SITTING WITH US HERE TODAY RIGHT NOW TO STAY US BUT I WILL STAY WITH US DURING OUR SECOND PANEL IN CASE COUNCILORS HAVE ANY FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS FOR THEM AS WE HEAR INFORMATION FROM OUR OTHER PANELISTS AND THEN I'LL PROVIDE MY COLLEAGUES WITH AN EXTENDED QUESTION TIME PERIOD IN THE SECOND ROUND SO YOU CAN ASK QUESTIONS TO ANY OF THE PANELISTS FROM EITHER PANEL. WITH THAT, COUNCILOR FERNANDEZ ANDERSON, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.  THANK YOU SO MUCH. THAT WAS ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE AND I WAS TRYING TO TAKE NOTES IN TERMS OF MY QUESTIONS THAT I DON'T HAVE DOWN SO THAT I CAN ASK THEM. BUT MOST OF MY QUESTIONS ARE OBVIOUSLY WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND PD AND I GUESS THAT LEAVES ME WITH A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR THE PANELISTS NOW.  SO I GUESS THAT'S BEEN ANSWERED PARDON ME AND THAT'S BEEN ANSWERED SORRY I I MY QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED FROM THE PANELISTS I DO WANT TO GET TO ASKING QUESTIONS FROM PPD IS THAT OKAY OR WELL, LET THEM COME OUT AND PRESENT. OKAY. I'LL I'LL HOLD MY QUESTION MY QUESTIONS.  THANK YOU. GREAT THANK YOU. I WILL NOW TURN TO PAUL. THANK YOU COUNCILOR FOR ANDERSON. I'D LIKE TO TURN THE FLOOR OVER TO MY COLLEAGUES IN ORDER OF ARRIVAL. I LIKE TO ASK MY COLLEAGUES TO LIMIT THE TIME OF YOUR INITIAL QUESTIONS AND RESPONSES FROM OUR PANELISTS TO 4 MINUTES PER COUNSELOR CALL INCLUDING PANELISTS RESPONSES AS A REMINDER AFTER THIS ROUND OF QUESTIONS WE'LL HEAR FROM THE SECOND PANEL OF ATTENDEES FROM THE BOSTON POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE SUFFOLK COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. I KNOW WE HAVE SEVERAL MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WAITING TO TESTIFY AS WELL. WITH THAT I'D LIKE TO HAND THE FOCUS TO MY COLLEAGUES CONSUL FITZGERALD FROM DISTRICT THREE. THANK YOU, CHAIR.  THAT WAS CERTAINLY A LOT. RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.  AND 4 MINUTES IS NOT A LOT OF TIME SO WE'LL GET RIGHT INTO IT.  I GUESS IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY FIRST OF ALL HAVING MASS IN CAS IN SOUTH BAY IN DISTRICT THREE MYSELF RIGHT VERY INVOLVED IN WHAT'S GOING ON THERE AND TRYING TO HELP FIX IT AND WE BELIEVE THE ROLE OF GOVERNMENT IS ALWAYS HELP THOSE MOST IN NEED AND THAT'S WHAT WE DO WANT TO SEE FOR THESE FOLKS THAT ARE THERE.  HOWEVER THERE ARE OTHER IMPACTS THAT ARE MITIGATING OTHER FOLKS QUALITY OF LIFE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD TOO THAT I HAVE TO BE SENSITIVE TO AS WELL.  SO IN ANY OF THESE LINE OF QUESTIONING PLEASE, IT'S THIS IS NOT LEADING QUESTIONS THESE ARE JUST SOME MIGHT SEEM I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU'LL TAKE THEM BUT I WANT TO KNOW BECAUSE I'M ACTUALLY CURIOUS FOR AN ANSWER. IT'S MENACING CENTRAL BOOKING YOUR CONCERN IS THAT IT'S NOT PROPERLY EQUIPPED TO HANDLE THE MEDICAL NEEDS OF ALL OF THOSE TAKEN IN AND THAT THEY'RE BEING HELD UP IN JAIL WITHOUT THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE BAILED OUT.  IS THAT MY UNDERSTANDING? THAT IS SORT OF IN ESSENCE I KNOW THERE'S MORE BUT IN ESSENCE THAT IS SORT OF THE TWO MAIN FACTORS THAT WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT WITH CENTRAL BOOKING OUTSIDE OF THE MEDICAL CONCERNS. IT'S ALSO THE CONCERNS THAT THE BILL CLARK BILL COMMISSIONER BILL CLERKS ARE NOT BEING CALLED DOWN TO NATIONAL STREET SO OUR PEOPLE ARE NOT BEING GIVEN ACCESS TO BAIL. UNDERSTOOD. THANK YOU. WE ALSO THERE'S CONCERNS THAT ACTUALLY WE THINK PEOPLE MIGHT BE HELD LONGER THAN THEY MIGHT BE AT OUR PRECINCT BEFORE THEIR ARRAIGNMENT ALTHOUGH WE CAN'T CONFIRM THAT THAT'S A QUESTION THAT WE HAVE AND I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE SPECIFIC BUT I JUST WANT TO PUT THIS IN THE CONTEXT OF WE ALSO PERCEIVE THAT CENTRAL BOOKING IS A MECHANISM THAT'S ALLOWING FOR THIS INCREASE IN ARRESTS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR EXTREMELY LOW LEVEL OFFENSES. WELL, SO TO THAT POINT ABOUT THE LOW LEVEL OFFENSES BECAUSE I DO APPRECIATE YOU ALL WANTING DUE PROCESS RIGHT FOR AND TO FOLLOWING FOLLOWING THE LAW.  BUT IT SEEMS TO ME WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE UPTICK IN PARAPHERNALIA POSSESSION PARAPHERNALIA, TRESPASSING, THESE THESE ARE ALSO LAWS, CORRECT.  AND SO TO TO SAY THAT WE'RE TAKING SOMEBODY INTO CENTRAL BOOKING FOR BREAKING THE LAW NOW OR TO ANY BOOKING STATION REALLY RIGHT. JUST AS YOU GUYS WANT TO FOLLOW DUE PROCESS THERE'S THERE ARE FOLKS FOLLOWING THE DUE PROCESS OF THESE FOLKS ARE BREAKING THE LAW AND IT IS OUR JOB TO BRING THEM IN SO WE'RE NOT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WHAT I'M SAYING LIKE WE WANT IT WE WANT IT OVER HERE BUT OVER HERE THEY'RE NOT TOO BAD SO JUST KIND OF LOOK AWAY. RIGHT. WELL, I WOULD HOPE THAT ALL OF US WANT DUE PROCESS NOT JUST US. I WOULD HOPE ALL OF US DO WELL, YEAH, RIGHT. AND SO WHAT WE'RE DETAILING HERE IS AN ISSUE OF PEOPLE BRING BEING BROUGHT TO A JAIL OR TO A FACILITY NOT HAVING ACCESS TO BILL CLERKS AND NOT BEING ABLE TO ACCESS TO FIGHT THEIR CASE AND BEGIN THE PROCESS OF FIGHTING THEIR CASE. RIGHT. THE ISSUE THAT YOU'VE LAID OUT OF WHILE THE POLICE ARE ENFORCING WHAT IS OUR LAW. RIGHT. I THINK OUR ORGANIZATIONS HAVE ALSO TALKED ABOUT THE ENFORCEMENT OF THOSE LAWS ESCALATING PEOPLE INTO THE COURT SYSTEMS AND ACTUALLY DISRUPTING THEIR LIVES IN A WAY THAT IS COUNTERPRODUCTIVE. AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE MAY DISAGREE ON IS OUR INTERPRETATION OF WHETHER LAW IS MORAL AND ETHICAL AND THE APPLICATION OR ENFORCEMENT OF IT. AND WHAT WE ARE DEMANDING IS FOR ALL OF US TO BE IN CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW WE ARE EVEN APPROACHING THE CONVERSATION AROUND THAT. RIGHT. YOU THANK YOU SO MORE QUESTIONS SO I APPRECIATE THAT ANSWER. SO I GUESS MEL, YOU RATTLED OFF A BUNCH OF SOLUTIONS RIGHT AT THE END OF YOUR A THING THAT RIGHT FOR MYSELF AND CONSTITUENTS AND EVEN FOR ROXBURY AND SOUTHIE AND DORCHESTER AND SURROUNDING MASS AND CASS WITH THOSE PROPOSED SOLUTIONS. WHAT OF THOSE CAN I TAKE TO MYSELF AND CONSTITUENTS AND TELL THEM THIS IS HOW THESE SOLUTIONS WILL IMPROVE YOUR QUALITY OF LIFE? RIGHT. AND I DON'T MEAN THAT IN ANY LEADING WAY. I MEAN LIKE WHAT I WANT TO KNOW OF THOSE THINGS THAT YOU SAID HOW CAN I SAY HERE'S HOW IT WILL HELP YOU, RIGHT? IF WE HAVE SAFE INJECTION SITES, IF WE HAVE ALL THE OTHER THINGS YOU MENTIONED YOU RATTLED OFF A BUNCH I'M SORRY I DIDN'T GET TO WRITE THEM ALL DOWN BECAUSE FROM WHAT FROM WHAT I HEAR FROM MY CONSTITUENT IS CENTRAL BOOKING WILL ALLOW MORE POLICE ON THE STREETS.  RIGHT. THAT IT GETS THEM BACK ONTO THE STREET FASTER AND ALLOWS THEM TO CONTINUE TO DO THEIR JOB AND THE REQUEST I GET THE MOST IS WE NEED MORE POLICE. RIGHT AND SO IF THIS MECHANISM OF CENTRAL BOOKING CAN CAN HELP THAT THEN HOW DO I SAY TO MYSELF AND CONSTITUENTS CENTRAL BOOKING SHOULDN'T BE THE WAY TO GO AND THESE SOLUTIONS MAINLY THAT YOU PROVIDED WILL IMPROVE YOUR QUALITY OF LIFE.  YEAH. SO I THINK THAT THE THERE'S A A FUNDAMENTAL QUESTION ABOUT WHAT KEEPS PEOPLE SAFE, RIGHT AND SOME OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS IN THE SOUTH END OUR HOUSE THEY HAVE ACCESS TO MENTAL AND PHYSICAL HEALTH CARE AND SO WHILE THEY MIGHT BE DEMANDING ADDITIONAL POLICE THEY HAVE THEIR BASIC NEEDS MET WHICH IS ACTUALLY WHAT THEIR SAFETY IS ABOUT. RIGHT. THEIR WELL-BEING IS NURTURED BY THE FACT THAT THEY ARE BEING TAKEN CARE OF IN THESE OTHER WAYS. THEY'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE FOR THEMSELVES IN THOSE WAYS. RIGHT. SO INCREASING POLICE DOESN'T CONNECT MORE PEOPLE TO THE THINGS THAT STABILIZE PEOPLE'S LIVES.  HOUSING DOES THAT HEALTH CARE DOES THAT TREATMENT DOES THAT. SO WHEN WE CONNECT PEOPLE TO SERVICES AND SUPPORT THAT CAN GROUND THEM AND STABILIZE THEIR LIVES, THEN THEY ARE LIVING THEIR DREAMS AND LIVING AND HAVING THEIR WELLBEING. I THINK I WILL. SO CAN I JUST SAY I KNOW WE COULD WE COULD GET IT. I KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE COOL BUT IT'S NOT AN IMMEDIATE LIKE IT'S ABOUT AN APPROACH THAT IS GOING TO TAKE TIME. WHAT DO WE SAY TO A PRACTICAL RESPONSE? BUT I KNOW I WANT TO BE RESPECTFUL BUT TIME YEAH LIKE BUT WHAT DO WE SAY TO THE PEOPLE WHO FEEL SORRY GUYS WHAT DO WE SAY TO THE PEOPLE WHO REFUSE SERVICES BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE FIND THE MOST THAT PEOPLE ARE REFUSING THE SERVICES AND THEN WHAT WHAT WHAT IS WHAT ARE WE LEFT WITH AFTER THAT? I GUESS I'LL JUST END ON THAT.  I DON'T EXPECT AN ANSWER FOR THAT BUT THAT'S SORT OF WHERE I THINK WHERE I'M AT ONE YEAH, YEAH I MEAN I THINK THERE'S LIKE THE MYTH OF SERVICE RESOURCES RIGHT SERVICES AREN'T WORKING FOR PEOPLE PERSONAL SERVICES, THINGS THAT ARE ENTANGLED IN THE CRIMINAL LEGAL SYSTEM AND WILL FURTHER ENTANGLE PEOPLE IN THE CRIMINAL LEGAL SYSTEM DON'T WORK FOR FOLKS. I SIT WITH FOLKS WHO ARE TRYING TO ACCESS TREATMENT EVERY DAY RIGHT? LIKE PEOPLE DESPERATELY WANT HOUSING.  PEOPLE WANT A SAFETY PLAN AROUND THAT HOUSING AND HOW THEY CAN EITHER YOU KNOW,  MAINTAIN THEIR OWN SAFETY IN THAT HOUSING SUPPORT.  FRIENDS LIKE PEOPLE WANT SERVICES AND SUPPORT. BUT WHAT EXISTS IS INCREASINGLY NOT WORKING FOR THEM RIGHT.  I THINK YOU KNOW, A LOT OF WHAT WE HAVE LAID OUT MIGHT FEEL RADICAL. A LOT OF IT IS ALSO VERY PRACTICAL AND I THINK IN MY MANY YEARS OF HAVING DISCUSSIONS WITH FOLKS IN THE SOUTH END AND LISTENING TO FOLKS IN THE SOUTH AND SPECIFICALLY THERE IS A LOT OF DICHOTOMOUS THOUGHT RIGHT? THERE'S LIKE WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE ON THE STREET BUT WE DON'T WANT HOUSING, WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO USE ON THE STREET BUT WE DON'T WANT OPC.  WE DON'T WANT LITERALLY HAVE SEEN FOLKS WITH A SIGN THAT SAID NO MORE ON MY STOOP BUT THEY DON'T WANT PUBLIC RESTROOMS SO I THINK IT MIGHT TAKE LEADERSHIP TO BE LIKE THESE ARE PRACTICAL SOLUTIONS RIGHT? LIKE THEY'RE A DIRECT RESPONSE TO WHAT YOU WERE SAYING YOU DO OR DO NOT RIGHT. AND THAT WOULD SERVE COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO ARE NOT AS FORTUNATE AS THEM AND WHO ARE NOT AS STABILIZED AS THEM THAT HALF. THANKS GUYS. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR CROSS-BORDER AND I'LL GIVE THE FLOOR OVER TO COUNCILOR PEPPER FROM DISTRICT I THANK YOU MR CHAIR AND I CLOSE OFF BY THANKING THE PANELISTS FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.  I THOUGHT THAT IT WAS VERY EDUCATIONAL. I TOOK SOME GOOD NOTES. HERE I AM REALLY LOVE THE POINT. I'M I LOOK AT THE SIMPLE THINGS AND THE POINT OF WHERE IS CENTRAL BOOK AND POSTED AND WHERE CAN I WHERE CAN WE FIND OUT WHERE SOMEONE'S ARRESTED?  I ACTUALLY DID A QUICK GOOGLE SEARCH WHILE YOU WERE SAYING THAT AND I COULDN'T FIND THAT.  SO I THINK THAT'S A PART OF THE CONVERSATION THAT I WOULD LOVE TO ASK THE NEXT PANEL. BUT EVEN JUST SIMPLE THINGS LIKE THAT I THINK IS WORTH CONSIDERING LOOKING INTO I REALLY DON'T HAVE MUCH DEEPER QUESTIONS FOR YOU BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT YOUR PORTION OF THIS HEARING WAS TO EDUCATE ME AND TO TELL ME ABOUT WHERE YOUR STANCES ARE. I AM CURIOUS TO SEE IF ANY OF YOUR ORGANIZATIONS HAVE COME UP WITH SOME VIABLE SOLUTIONS OR JUST ANOTHER APPROACH THAT IS NOT CENTRAL BOOKING. SO IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN SHARE WITH ME IN MY OFFICE I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. BUT I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR FOR BEING HERE AND LOOKING FORWARD TO ASKING THE NEXT PANEL SOME QUESTIONS.  OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNSELOR COUNCIL PRESIDENT RUTLEDGE AND YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. AND I WANT TO THANK THE PANEL FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU DO, ESPECIALLY AROUND KASHMIR.  WE KNOW THAT BILL IS DISCRIMINATORY. IT'S DISCRIMINATORY AGAINST FOLKS WHO ARE POOR AGAINST BLACK AND BROWN COMMUNITIES. AND I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING IN THAT SPACE TOO THAT AFFECTS AND YOU KNOW, THIS IS A PERSONAL ISSUE AS A BLACK WHO GREW UP HERE IN THE CITY AND HAVING TO BAIL OUT LOVED ONES HAVING TO DO THAT VERY RECENTLY. SO IT IS AN ISSUE THAT I FEEL ON A VERY PERSONAL LEVEL. QUESTION FOR YOU. REGARDING HOW THIS CENTRAL BOOKING SYSTEM HOW IT HAS CHANGED YOUR ABILITY TO DO THE WORK OF HELPING PEOPLE WITH ABOUT LIKE JUST LIKE DIRECTLY IS IT IS IT HARDER BECAUSE IT'S HARDER TO LOCATE PEOPLE AND FIGURE OUT THE PROCESS? IS IT IS IT HARDER? IT IS HARDER LIKE MALLORY AND THE REST OF THE PANEL MENTIONED THERE WERE 487 PEOPLE THAT WENT TO CENTRAL BOOKING PROCESS BETWEEN NOVEMBER AND MAY THAT ARE ORGANIZATIONS HAD NO ACCESS TO WE HAD NO IDEA THAT THEY WENT THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND WE KNOW THAT THAT NUMBER IS HIGHER TODAY BUT WE COULD NOT GET THAT INFORMATION SO THEY CAN'T ACCESS THE BILL CLERKS THEIR FAMILIES CANNOT ACCESS THEM. THEY CANNOT ACCESS THE BILL CLERK AND THEN THEY CANNOT ACCESS THE COURTS TO GET INTO AGREEMENT TO GET A LAWYER YET SO THEY ARE BEING CUT OFF FROM RESOURCES FROM BEING ARRESTED.  RIGHT. THEY'RE BEING CUT OFF FROM THEIR COMMUNITY. THEY'RE BEING CUT OFF FROM THEIR FAMILIES. THEY'RE BEING CUT OFF FROM JOBS AND HOUSING AND THEN THEY'RE ALSO BEING CUT OFF FROM ACCESSING OUR RESOURCES. YEAH, AND MOST PEOPLE ACCESS OUR RESOURCES AFTER ARRAIGNMENT RIGHT, RAYMOND? YEAH. SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DETAIL HERE IS THAT WHILE THE POPULATIONS THAT WE SUPPORT ARE BILLED AFTER ARRAIGNMENT WE HAVE COMMITTEE MEMBERS REACHING OUT TO US BECAUSE EVEN PRE ARRAIGNMENT THEY HAVE NO IDEA HOW TO GET THEIR LOVED ONE OUT, RIGHT. SO THAT'S THAT'S JUST WE JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT DIFFERENCE AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT IT IS INCREDIBLY HORRIFYING AND PANICKING WHEN YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU'RE LIKE ABSOLUTELY. AND SO I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE CAN IMPROVE THAT OR HOW DO WE OFFER OUR RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE CAN MAKE TO TO TO IMPROVE THE ABILITY TO SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW WHERE THEIR LOVED ONE IS. I ASK THIS OKAY, SO THAT'S ONE QUESTION THAT I HAVE. CAN I JUST SAY ONE MORE THING TO THAT? WHEN SO WHAT FOR FOR PARTICIPATORY DEFENSE IF WE ARE ABLE TO YOU KNOW A MOM WOULD CONTACT US AND BE LIKE OH MY MY SON IS GOING TO GET ARRAIGNED. CAN YOU COME? IT IS MASSIVELY IMPORTANT TO GET PEOPLE TO COME TO THE ARRAIGNMENT TO SHOW THE COURT LIKE YOU CAN RELEASE THAT PERSON ON HER COGNIZANCE NOW. RIGHT. SO IF SOMEBODY IS JUST GOING FROM CENTRAL BOOKING TO THE COURT AND THEY DON'T HAVE THAT SUPPORT BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN NO COMMUNICATION, IT CAN ABSOLUTELY HAVE LONG TERM EFFECTS ON THE CASE. ABSOLUTELY. LIKE I AGREE AS A AS A QUESTION OF DUE PROCESS THAT WE NEED TO KNOW WHERE PEOPLE ARE, PERIOD. SO I WANT TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO ON THAT. AND THEN MY SECOND QUESTION IS ABOUT THAT BAUTISTA DECISION THAT BASICALLY STATED THAT IN ORDER FOR A CITY TO ENGAGE IN THIS SORT OF A NO GO NEGOTIATED AGREEMENT WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, IT REALLY DOES TAKE ACTION FROM THE STATE LEGISLATURE AND WE HAVEN'T SEEN THAT AND I BELIEVE THAT DECISION WAS IN 2021. AND SO MY QUESTION TO YOU AND THIS IS ALSO A QUESTION TO THE NEXT PANEL IS THE IDEA THAT THIS THE CENTRAL BOOKING PROCESS AT THE NATIONAL STREET JAIL IS IMPERMISSIBLE GIVEN THE LACK OF LEGAL LANDSCAPE FROM THE LEGISLATURE TO HAVE THESE COUNTY WIDE FACILITIES AND THEN I THINK THAT THAT IS THE QUESTION IS THAT YOUR UNDERSTANDING AND THAT IS ALSO MY QUESTION FOR THE NEXT PANEL WHAT IS IT LIKE? IS THERE A NEED FOR LEGAL AUTHORITY FOR THESE BOOKINGS AT THESE AT JAILS TO EXIST IN LIGHT OF THE BATTISTA DECISION THAT CITED THE NEED FOR THE LEGISLATURE TO ACT LIKE SO IT'S A TWO PRONGED QUESTION OF AND ONE WHETHER THE LEGALITY IS NECESSARY AND WHETHER WE HAVE IT BASICALLY YEAH, ABSOLUTELY COUNCILOR I DID DETAIL THAT IN MY TESTIMONY JUST REFERENCING THE THE GENERAL LAW STATUTE THAT WAS REFERENCED IN THE DETENTION AGREEMENT BETWEEN PPD AND SCC THE BUT IT'S A DECISION WHICH HAPPENED AFTER SOMEONE WAS BROUGHT TO BRISTOL COUNTY JAIL. SO THE SHERIFF THERE THE DECISION YES SIR MEANT THAT IN ORDER TO EXPAND THE POPULATIONS OF PEOPLE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BRING TO A JAIL YOU HAVE TO HAVE EXPRESSED LEGAL AUTHORIZATION. THAT LEGAL AUTHORIZATION HAS NEVER HAPPENED. THERE'S BEEN NO LEGAL AUTHORIZATION FOR A REGIONAL LOCKUP FACILITY. WE THINK THAT A CENTRAL BOOKING PROCESS IS A INITIAL STEP IN BUILDING OUT ORIGINAL LOCKUP FACILITY. RIGHT. BECAUSE IT BASICALLY INVITES POPULATIONS THAT SHOULD NOT BE THERE BECAUSE A JAIL IS NOT A PRECINCT TO COME TO THAT TO THAT JAIL. SO WE'RE IN AGREEMENT WITH YOU THAT WE THINK THAT THIS IS IMPERMISSIBLE AND THAT THERE ARE SOME LEGAL CHALLENGES HERE. THANK YOU. I OH, SORRY . I JUST I ALSO CONTACTED EVERYONE'S OFFICE IN APRIL BECAUSE THE ADMINISTRATION PUT OUT A STATEMENT THAT THE DETECTIVE CONTRACT ALSO MIRACULOUSLY ESTABLISHED THIS LEGAL AUTHORITY AND I ASKED FOR THE CONTRACT REPEATEDLY AND I DID GET TO SEE IT MIGHT BE POSTED BY NOW BUT WE ALSO DON'T UNDERSTAND WHERE THAT FITS INTO THE EQUATION.  AND SO THE POINT REMAINS THE SAME BUT JUST WANTED TO ENTER THAT THAT WAS CONFUSING TO HEAR FROM THE ADMINISTRATION. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE BASING THAT ON.  OKAY. THANK YOU. BECAUSE OF TIME TO JUST I'M ACTUALLY NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO HEAR PERSONALLY FROM THE SECOND PANEL ON THE QUESTIONS ON THAT LEGAL AUTHORITY. LIKE I WANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT FROM THE COUNTY'S PERSPECTIVE. SO I'M JUST ASKING THAT QUESTION NOW I HOPE THAT THOSE QUESTIONS THAT I ASKED BOTH ON THE ISSUES OF DUE PROCESS AND HOW WE CAN DO A BETTER JOB OF MAKING SURE THAT WE CAN LOCATE PEOPLE, IT'S ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL. AND THEN ON THE SECOND QUESTION OF WHETHER LEGAL WHETHER LEGAL AUTHORIZATION IS REQUIRED AND THEN NUMBER TWO, WHETHER WE HAVE IT. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.  THANK YOU AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO COUNCILOR GABRIELLA KALALA, SUPPORTER FROM DISTRICT ONE. YEAH.  THANK YOU CHAIR AND I APOLOGIZE THAT I WAS LATE BUT I WAS LISTENING IN FROM THE VERY BEGINNING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.  I CBP AND THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE TOO AND BEING ACCESSIBLE AS YOU USUALLY ARE AND YOU ARE IN COMMUNITY SO I APPRECIATE THAT I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO SAY AN OPENING REMARKS. I JUST WANT TO SAY HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO MAINTAIN BASIC FUNDAMENTAL HUMAN AND CIVIL RIGHTS AND I AM JUST TRYING TO GET THE FULL PICTURE THE FACTS BECOME EDUCATED ON ALL OF THIS ON HOW PEOPLE INTERACT WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, THE TRIAL COURTS, THE DISTRICT COURTS. THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT I FEEL LIKE YOU WERE ABLE TO PROVIDE A VERY COMPREHENSIVE VISUALIZATION. SO I APPRECIATE THAT THERE ARE STILL SOME THINGS THAT I AM UNFAMILIAR ON AND SO MY MY QUESTIONS MAY SEEM RUDIMENTARY AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.  AND AGAIN, IT'S NOT LEADING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. I DO JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I APPRECIATED THE DETAILS PROVIDED ABOUT THE LACK OF A CENTRAL HUB FOR COMMUNICATION TO FIND A LOVED ONE. THAT'S A TECHNOLOGICAL BARRIER THAT I THINK IN 2024 CAN BE EASILY FIXED. SO I DO APPRECIATE THAT.  MY QUESTION AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT PRE ARRAIGNMENT POST ARRAIGNMENT GETTING THE FULL SCOPE OF OF ACCESSING BAIL. SO MY QUESTION IS WHO AND WHAT AGENCY FACILITATES ACCESS TO BAIL AND I GUESS WHAT IS THE ENTIRETY OF THE PROCESS?  JUST WALK ME THROUGH FROM GETTING ARRESTED BEING PROCESSED BY BPD, GETTING A BAIL COMMISSIONER. HOW DOES THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT INTERACT WITH THE SYSTEM? SO PLEASE JUST OUTLINE THAT FOR ME . YEAH, I CAN START US OFF SO TYPICALLY WHEN YOU GET ARRESTED LET'S SAY IN ROXBURY, MATTAPAN, DORCHESTER, SOUTHEND AND YOU WOULD GET BROUGHT TO YOU GET ARRESTED BY THE OFFICER AND YOU WOULD GET BROUGHT TO A PRECINCT THE PRECINCT THAT IS IN THE JURISDICTION OF WHERE YOU GOT ARRESTED AND THAT PRECINCT THE ARRESTING OFFICER BRINGS YOU TO A TRANSPORTATION OFFICER. THE TRANSPORTATION OFFICER BRINGS YOU TO THE PRECINCT THERE IS A BOOKING OFFICER THERE THAT RECEIVES YOU THERE IS ARRESTING INFORMATION THAT FOLLOWS RIGHT. SO POLICE REPORT THE BOOKING OFFICER THEN PULLS UP IDENTIFYING INFORMATION, RUNS YOUR PRINTS, TRIES TO IDENTIFY WHO YOU ARE AND MATCHES THAT WITH THE POLICE REPORT AND THERE IS A PROCESS IT TAKES TYPICALLY BETWEEN 30 TO 45 MINUTES FOR A BOOKING OFFICER THAT WE KNOW OF . SOMETIMES IT TAKES LONGER THAN THAT DEPENDING ON YOU KNOW, HOW AVAILABLE YOUR IDENTIFYING INFORMATION IS AND THEN THEY PULL UP YOUR PASSKEY.  IF THERE'S ANY PAST CASES THEY PULL UP A WARRANT STATUS, ANYTHING LIKE THAT. THEY RUN THOSE THOSE CHECKS ON YOU AFTER THAT INFORMATION IS COMPILED, A BAIL CLERK IS CALLED TO THE PRECINCT BY DPD THAT THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS IN THE PRECINCT BECAUSE THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT STAFF PRECINCTS RB PD WAS THE BOSTON POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE BAIL CLERK IS CALLED AT A CERTAIN TIME. THE BAIL CLERK ARRIVES USUALLY AFTER COURT HOURS OR SOMETIMES DURING COURT HOURS DEPENDS ON HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE AT THE CLERK'S OFFICE THAT DAY. SO MOST OF THE TIMES WHAT WE KNOW IS THAT BLACK FOLKS DON'T COME UNTIL AFTER COURT HOURS AFTER THEY HAVE JOB THE COURT IS DONE.  THERE ARE CERTAIN COUNTIES IN THE COMMONWEALTH THAT HAVE BILL CLERKS WHO ARE NOT COURT WORKERS SO THEY'RE BILL COMMISSIONERS.  THEY'RE SORT OF HIRED AND GO THROUGH LIKE A SEPARATE TRAINING TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER TO TO THESE CALLS. WE DON'T KNOW OF THE USE OF MANY BAIL COMMISSIONERS HERE IN SUFFOLK COUNTY BUT THEY ARE IN THE REST OF THE COMMONWEALTH. SO ONCE THE BILL QUIRK IS CALLED THAT BILL CLERK IS GIVEN A PILE OF INFORMATION AND THEY RUN THEIR OWN CHECKS AND DETERMINE WHETHER SOMEONE IS RELEASABLE ON THEIR RECOGNIZANCE OR WHETHER SOMEONE COULD BE RELEASED USING A SPECIFIC AMOUNT OF CASH BAIL OR IF THAT PERSON NEEDS TO BE HELD FOR ARRAIGNMENT. THOSE DECISIONS ARE MADE BY THE BILL CLERK AND THEN THERE IS THE COMMUNICATION THAT HAPPENS TO THE PERSON IN CUSTODY ON WHAT THEIR THEIR OPTIONS ARE.  WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT CENTRAL BOOKING IS THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT GETTING THAT SLEW OF THINGS THAT I JUST TOLD YOU HAPPENS A LOT OF THOSE THINGS MAY OR MAY NOT BE HAPPENING AT LEAST WE DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION ON WHAT PARTS OF THAT PROCESS ARE HAPPENING AT CENTRAL BOOKING IN TERMS OF THE TESTIMONY THAT WE WERE ABLE TO PROVIDE FROM LOVED ONES AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS WE KNOW OR WE HAVE HEARD THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT ABLE TO MAKE PHONE CALLS TO LOVED ONES TO TO TELL THEM THAT THEY'RE IN CENTRAL BOOKING THAT BAIL CLERKS ARE NOT BEING CALLED BY DPD OR BY THE SUFFOLK COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT ENUMERATED BY THE FACT THAT WE JUST PULLED UP A RECORDS REQUEST THAT SHOWED THAT ONLY TWO PEOPLE GOT OUT ON BAIL. ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE, BY THE WAY, WAS BECAUSE OF US AND TWO MORE PEOPLE BECAUSE OF US SINCE THEN.  AND WE ALSO KNOW THAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN HELD AT THE HOPE THE HOLDING TANK THAT PPD BRINGS YOU INTO CENTRAL BOOKING BEFORE THEY TRANSFER CUSTODY TO ESD. SO THEY'RE BEING HELD IN THE HOLDING TANK WITH LITTLE TO NO INFORMATION FOLLOWING THEM INCLUDING THE POLICE REPORT OR IDENTIFYING INFORMATION THAT WOULD HELP A BILL CLERK DETERMINE WHETHER THEY ARE RELEASABLE. SO ALL OF THOSE THINGS WE THINK MAY OR MAY NOT BE HAPPENING LEANING MORE TOWARDS FROM PERSONAL ANECDOTES AND ANECDOTES OF OUR COMMITTEE MEMBERS THAT THOSE THINGS NOT HAPPENING OR AT LEAST NOT HAPPENING IN A CONSISTENT MANNER.  OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT. I KNOW MY TIME IS UP 4 MINUTES. IT'S NOT A LOT YOU KNOW IT BUT YEAH WE DO HAVE A SECOND PANEL AND YOU ARE ABLE TO ASK QUESTIONS TO ALL PANELISTS DURING THAT TIME.  OKAY. THANK YOU. SO THANK YOU COUNCILOR OVERALL FROM DISTRICT FOUR, I JUST WANT TO SAY I WAS ONE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE'VE BEEN JOINED BY COUNCILOR DURKAN FROM DISTRICT EIGHT BUT COUNCILOR WORRELL YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. THANK YOU AND I APOLOGIZE BEING LATE BUT JUST WANT TO SAY I'VE LEARNED A LOT. I WAS LISTENING THEN AND A LOT OF THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU GUYS PROVIDED VERY COMPELLING AND VERY INFORMATIVE AND JUST ALSO WANT TO JUST THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK THAT YOU DO AND REPRESENTING THE PEOPLE THAT YOU SERVE AND MOST OF MY QUESTIONS FOR THE IT'S FOR THE OTHER PANEL BUT I JUST WANT TO JUST THANK YOU AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.  CHAIR THANK YOU, COUNSELOR WE'RE COUNSELOR DURKIN AND IF YOU WANT TO ASK QUESTIONS OF THOSE PANELS YOU NOW HAVE 4 MINUTES. THANK YOU SO MUCH.  NASHUA STREET JAIL IS IN MY DISTRICT AND I WILL BE TOURING IT ON FRIDAY MORNING BECAUSE IT'S ACTUALLY COME TO MY ATTENTION THAT SOME OF THE CONDITIONS WITH I'M A FACILITY ARE NOT A PLACE FOR WORK OR NOT A PLACE TO LIVE IN AND UNFORTUNATELY I, I AM NOT SUPER AWARE OR UP TO DATE ON THE BAIL SYSTEM BUT I DID GET TO WATCH THE PART OF A HEARING THAT I MISSED. I THINK I WILL RESERVE A LOT OF MY COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS UNTIL I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO ACTUALLY SEE THE FACILITY FOR MYSELF BUT IT IS CONCERNING TO HEAR THAT BELL CLARKES ARE NOT BEING CALLED.  IT IS CONCERNING THAT SOME OF THE WAYS IN WHICH WHICH YOU ARE DESCRIBING THE PROCESS ARE NOT WORKING AND YOU KNOW BEFORE I WAS A CITY COUNSELOR I ACTUALLY HOSTED A BIRTHDAY FUNDRAISER FOR THE MASSACHUSETTS BAIL FUND.  SO I AM EXTREMELY COMMITTED TO PEOPLE HAVING ACCESS TO BAIL.  YOU KNOW, WE ALL DON'T NEED TO GET INTO OUR PERSONAL STORIES BUT DEFINITELY THERE HAVE BEEN FAMILY MEMBERS WHO HAVE HAD SITUATIONS WHERE THEY DIDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO RESOURCES, THEY DIDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO INFORMATION.  SO TO HEAR THAT THAT MAY BE HAPPENING IN SOMETHING OUR FACILITY THAT IS IN MY DISTRICT IS CONCERNING TO ME . SO I LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING THE CONVERSATION AND I LOOK FORWARD TO A FOLLOW UP CONVERSATION WITH THE ADVOCATES AND I AM GRATEFUL FOR YOUR WORK . THANK YOU COUNSELOR.  WITH THAT I DO WANT TO THANK AGAIN ALL OF OUR PANELISTS HERE TODAY. I'D LIKE TO ASK THAT OUR FIRST PANELISTS PLEASE REMAIN AVAILABLE IN THE CHAMBER IF YOU ARE ABLE TO DO SO. SO YOU CAN HEAR FROM THE TESTIMONY FROM OUR PANEL AND ALSO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNSELORS THAT MAY WISH TO DIRECT THOSE QUESTIONS TO YOU.  YOU'LL BE ABLE TO COME UP TO THE PODIUM ON EITHER SIDE TO SPEAK ON WHEN ADDRESSED BY A CITY COUNCILOR FOR OUR SECOND PANEL WE HAVE OUR ATTENDEES FROM THE WALTHAM POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE SUFFOLK COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT WHO ARE LISTED EARLIER.  THANK YOU AGAIN FOR JOINING US TODAY AND PLEASE JOIN US AT THE PANELISTS TABLE.  ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU YOU ALL HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO COORDINATE IN ADVANCE OF THE HEARING TODAY.  SO I'D LIKE TO INVITE YOU TO PROCEED IN WHATEVER ORDER YOU FEEL IS MOST APPROPRIATE. I JUST ASKED THAT OF THAT IF NOT EVERYONE WILL BE PROVIDING OPENING REMARKS THAT YOU PLEASE EACH JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND TITLE FOR THE RECORD.  YEAH WE WILL ALSO JUST FOR PURPOSES OF TIME WE WANT TO YOU KNOW KEEP THIS ALONG AND MAKE SURE THAT COUNSELORS HAVE TIME TO ASK QUESTIONS SO IF YOUR ENTIRE PRESENTATION CAN BE 15 TO 20 MINUTES THAT WOULD BE GREAT AND CERTAINLY AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO TWO INTRODUCTIONS FIRST. YEP, INTRODUCTIONS FIRST. HI. GOOD AFTERNOON.  DAN HUMPHREYS I'M A DEPUTY SUPERINTENDENT ASSIGNED TO THE BOSTON POLICE DEPARTMENT'S FIELD SERVICES. THANK YOU.  GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M ALAN FORBES. I'M GENERAL COUNCILOR OF THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.  GOOD AFTERNOON. MICHAEL CALDWELL, FORMER SUPERINTENDENT . I RETIRED TWO WEEKS AGO AFTER SERVING WITH THE DEPARTMENT FOR 33 YEARS BUT I WAS PRINCIPAL TO THIS ARRANGEMENT AN AGREEMENT AND WAS THE SUPERINTENDENT WHEN THE INVITATION TO TESTIFY CAME SO IN THAT OPENING MICHEL GOOD AFTERNOON.  ROCHELLE STEINBERG, ASSISTANT SUPERINTENDENT , SUFFOLK COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT THANK YOU BUT I WAS NOT FOR YOU BUT TAKE IT AWAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNSELOR. AND I'LL JUST OPEN I'LL PROVIDE KIND OF A BROAD OVERVIEW OF HOW WE ARRIVED HERE AND, WHAT WE'RE PROVIDING AND THEN TURN IT OVER TO MY COLLEAGUE FROM THE BOSTON POLICE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE IT IS KIND OF A PROCESS THAT ORIGINATES FROM THE BOSTON POLICE AS WE HEARD FROM THE ADVOCATES AND WE APPRECIATE THEIR TESTIMONY.  I I'LL START BY SAYING, YOU KNOW, WITH DECADES I GREW UP IN THE SYSTEM AS A CORRECTION OFFICER AND I SEE HOW THE SYSTEM HAS EVOLVED AND I LIVE THAT EVOLUTION AND I HAVE EVOLVED AS A PERSON THROUGHOUT THAT THROUGHOUT MY TIME THERE AND AND I THINK SOMETIMES OUR BEST EVOLUTION WINS ARE BROUGHT FROM OUTSIDE VOICES BECAUSE THEY CAN BE INSULAR PLACES.  AND WE APPRECIATE THE TESTIMONY THAT THE ADVOCATES BEFORE US AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THEM AS WE ALWAYS DO WITH THE MASS BAIL FUND AS WE DO WITH THIS THIS COMMITTEE. I BELIEVE WE HAVE A STANDING INVITATION FOR EVERY COUNSELOR NOT JUST FOR THIS COMMITTEE BUT THE ENTIRE COUNCIL TO VISIT OUR FACILITIES. MANY OF YOU HAVE WE'RE HERE IN A SPIRIT OF TRANSPARENCY AND COOPERATION IN TERMS OF IN THE MOST BROAD SENSE OUR AGREEMENT HAS ESSENTIALLY POSITIONED BOSTON POLICE DEPARTMENT BOOKING STAFF MEMBERS INSIDE OUR FACILITY FOR OUR TO PROCESS ARRESTEES FOR CERTAIN DISTRICTS . AND I'LL LET DEPUTY HUMPHREYS TALK ABOUT THAT. THOSE DISTRICTS AND PRIOR TO TURNING THEM OVER TO SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT CUSTODY AND THAT IS A PROCESS FROM ARREST TO DELIVERY TO THE FACILITY IN THE CUSTODY OF THE BOSTON POLICE DEPARTMENT.  THAT PROCESSING TAKES PLACE AND THEN THEY ARE TRANSFERRED WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, CROSSING THE THRESHOLD TO A DIFFERENT UNIT THAT PUTS THE PERSON IN THE CUSTODY OF THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.  OTHER THAN THAT, OUR PROTOCOLS DID NOT CHANGE. OUR ACCESS TO BAIL HAS NOT CHANGED.  BUT WHAT IT HAS CHANGED AND WHAT I THINK IT PROVIDES AND WHAT I THINK PROVIDES AS A GOVERNMENT FUNCTION AS WAS REFERENCED EARLIER BY ONE OF THE COUNSELORS IN TERMS OF PUTTING MORE POLICE OFFICERS ON THE STREET AND ALLOWING THE POLICE TO DO THEIR SPECIALIZED FUNCTIONS AND ALLOW US THAT THE JAIL WAS CREATED FOR SHORT AND LONG TERM HOUSING. I BELIEVE MY OPINION WE ARE A BETTER PLACE TO HOUSE PERSONS THAT ARE GOING TO BE HELD SOMEWHERE. THERE'S A BROADER CONVERSATION OF WHO WE ARREST AND HOW WE ARREST AND AND WHAT THE VALUE OF INCARCERATION IS IN SOCIETY. THOSE ARE TWO BROAD FOR ME BUT I WILL SAY THAT IF YOU ARE GOING TO BE HELD TO BE HELD IN A DISTRICT OR POLICE STATION VERSUS BEING HELD IN A JAIL THAT WAS CONSTRUCTED FOR SHORT AND LONG TERM HOUSING WE HAVE ON SITE 24 SEVEN MEDICAL CARE EVERYONE WHO HAS ENTERED OUR CUSTODY THROUGH THIS PROCESS HAS RECEIVED A MEDICAL ASSESSMENT. 70% HAVE RECEIVED MEDICATION AND OR MEDICAL CARE FOR EXISTING ISSUES.  WE HAVE A FOOD SERVICE INDUSTRY. WE HAVE A LAUNDRY LAUNDRY DIVISION.  YOU'RE HOUSED IN A UPON ENTERING THE SUFFOLK COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT CUSTODY FOLLOWING THE BOSTON POLICE PROCESSING YOU'RE HOUSED IN AN INDIVIDUAL ROOM WITH WITH BED LINENS AND A MATTRESS YOU HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE WE HAD I'D LIKE TO UPDATE THE NUMBERS OF THE ADVOCATES. I HAVE THE MOST RECENT NUMBERS SINCE NOVEMBER 1ST WE'VE HAD 928 PEOPLE ENTER OUR CUSTODY FROM THIS FROM THIS PROCEDURE AND FROM THAT WE'VE HAD 2300 PHONE CALLS MADE OUT OF OUR OUT OF OUR PRE ARRAIGNMENT UNIT.  I'LL LET MY MY COLLEAGUE ROCHELLE STEINBERG TALK ABOUT THE MEDICAL CARE THAT'S PROVIDED FOR FOR FOLKS THAT THAT WOULD NOT EXIST IF IF SOMEONE WAS ARRESTED AND BROUGHT TO A DISTRICT STATION BECAUSE THOSE THOSE RESOURCES JUST DON'T EXIST IN POLICE STATIONS THEY WEREN'T CONSTRUCTED FOR THAT WITH THAT RATIO IF YOU WOULD SPEAK TO THE SHORT AS BRING IT COLWELL STATED EVERYBODY THAT COMES INTO OUR CUSTODY BY BOSTON POLICE OR ANY OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY OR FROM THE COURTS RECEIVES A MEDICAL ASSESSMENT.  BOSTON POLICE CAN ASK FOR THE MEDICAL STAFF TO ASSESS ANYONE BEFORE THEY'RE ACTUALLY STARTING THEIR PROCESS WITHIN OUR FACILITY WE HAVE 24 SEVEN MEDICAL CARE.  NURSING IS ON SITE 24 HOURS A DAY, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. WE HAVE MEDICAL PROVIDERS,  PSYCHIATRIC PROVIDERS ALSO ON CALL 24 HOURS A DAY THAT MEDICAL ASSESSMENT WILL DO VITAL SIGNS MEDICATION CLARIFICATION IF ANYONE'S ON A MEDICATION TALKING ABOUT SUICIDALITY, ANY OTHER MEDICAL CARE OR MEDICAL NEEDS THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE AND AT THAT POINT THE MEDICAL STAFF MAY DETERMINE THAT THIS PERSON NEEDS A LEVEL OF CARE AND WE'LL ASK BOSTON POLICE TO BRING THAT PERSON TO THE HOSPITAL. TO THIS POINT WE HAVE HAD OVER 60 INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE BEEN NOT BOOKED INTO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND HAS GONE TO A HOSPITAL PRIOR TO BEING BOOKED BY THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.  BUT AT EVERY STEP OF THE WAY THAT THERE IS AN ACCESS TO MEDICAL CARE, THEY HAVE ACCESS TO THOSE THINGS AS THE SUPERINTENDENT STATED OVER AROUND 70% OF THE PEOPLE IN OUR CUSTODY ON THE PRE ARRAIGNMENT ASPECT HAVE BEEN OFFERED AND PROVIDED MEDICAL CARE AND MEDICATION THAT IS COMPLETELY VOLUNTARY. OUR WILL VERIFY ANY MEDICATIONS THAT THEY'RE ON. WE HAVE OVER 155 MEDICATIONS ON SITE. THOSE ARE CRITICAL MEDICATIONS LIKE INSULIN MEDICATION ASSISTED TREATMENT, SUBOXONE,  METHADONE, ALL OF THOSE THINGS WE CAN HAVE AND PROVIDE ON SITE IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED ON SITE FOR THAT MEDICATION PURPOSE WE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE STATE OFFICE OF PHARMACY PHARMACEUTICAL SERVICES AND THEY WILL PROVIDE MEDICATION WITHIN 4 HOURS IF THEY CANNOT PROVIDE MEDICATION WITHIN THAT ADEQUATE AMOUNT OF TIME. OUR MEDICAL VENDOR CPS IS REQUIRED TO HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH A PHARMACY WITHIN THREE MILES OF THE FACILITY. THERE'S A CVS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER WHERE THEY CAN GO GET A MEDICATION THAT THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO RECEIVE OTHERWISE. ALL OF THESE ARE THINGS ARE HAPPENING OUR FACILITY SO A LOT OF OTHER MEDICAL CARE THAT CAN HAPPEN. WE HAVE X-RAYS, ULTRASOUND ON SITE PHLEBOTOMY SERVICES, THINGS LIKE THAT IF THINGS NEED TO BE TAKEN CARE OF FOR ANYBODY IN OUR CUSTODY.  YOU WANT US SHOULD OKAY,  THANKS. I'M AGAIN I'M ALAN FORBES FROM GENERAL COUNCILOR AT THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND JUST WANT TO SAY THAT SHERIFF TOMPKINS ASKED US TO COME HERE TODAY. THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT IS AN INDEPENDENT. THE SHERIFF IS INDEPENDENT ELECTED.  IT'S AN INDEPENDENT AGENCY. WE DON'T DROP FUNDS FROM THE CITY OF BOSTON.  WE'RE INDEPENDENT OF THE CITY OF BOSTON. WE'RE HERE THOUGH BECAUSE WE'RE CONCERNED WITH THE SAME POPULATION THAT THIS COUNCIL IS CONCERNED WITH. WE SERVE THE SAME PEOPLE AND AND WE'RE GLAD FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT THAT . THE DETENTION AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE AND THE STATUTE THERE'S A STATUTORY AUTHORIZATION FOR IT AND I WOULD JUST TO TO LAY THE LEGAL FRAMEWORK OUT I DON'T WANT TO LECTURE ON THE LAW HERE BUT BEGINNING IN 2010 ALL OF THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENTS IN MASSACHUSETTS BECAME ENTITIES OF THE COMMONWEALTH OF MASS, THE COMMONWEALTH APPROVES THE FUNDING, OVERSEES THE OPERATIONS AND AND WE DO ANSWER TO THEM IN A VERY MEANINGFUL SENSE SINCE SINCE 2010 WELL ACTUALLY BEFORE 2010 GENERAL LAWS CHAPTER 126 SECTION FOUR TALKS ABOUT WHAT JAILS MAY BE USED FOR. JAILS MAY BE USED TO HOUSE PEOPLE WHO ARE CHARGED WITH CRIMES TO HOUSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN ARRESTED ON WARRANTS AND TO HOUSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOT YET BEEN ARRAIGNED BUT ARE DETAINED BY THE POLICE. IF THE POLICE IF THERE IS IF OUR FACILITIES ARE SUPERIOR TO THE POLICE FACILITIES, SECTION FOUR OF CHAPTER 126 AUTHORIZES US TO DO THAT AND THAT'S A DETERMINATION THAT WE'VE MADE. THE LEGISLATURE OF MASSACHUSETTS IS WELL AWARE OF THIS OPERATION THEY HAVE FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS APPROVED A RETAINED REVENUE ACCOUNT THAT ALLOWS US TO HOLD ON TO THE REVENUE THAT WE DERIVE FROM PROVIDING LOCKUP SERVICES TO OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES . SO THEY'RE JUST LIKE LEGISLATURES AWARE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING. WE'RE AUTHORIZED TO HOLD THESE FUNDS TO DEFRAY THE ADDITIONAL COSTS THAT WE INCUR IN STAFF IN THE LOCKUP AND THAT'S IT FROM THE LEGAL SIDE OF THINGS, DANNY ,DID YOU WANT TO TALK? SURE. GOOD AFTERNOON. SO THE BOSTON POLICE DEPARTMENT IS OPERATING BOOKING STATIONS AT NATIONAL STREET AND ALONG WITH WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE DEPARTMENT IN THE CITY, WE'RE REALLY COMING INTO INTERACT WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS, SUBSTANCE CRISIS THAT ARE REALLY STRUGGLING UNFORTUNATELY SOME OF THESE PEOPLE COME INTO OUR CUSTODY AND BASED ON EVERYTHING THAT MY FRIENDS JUST YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE VERY STRONGLY THAT THIS IS A BETTER PLACE FOR THEM. WE'RE OPERATING BOSTON POLICE BOOKING STATIONS. WE'RE FOLLOWING THE SAME PROCEDURES. THE FIRST WHIFF OF ANY ISSUE WITH BAIL COME OUT. COMING UP WE ISSUED VERY CLEAR DIRECTIVES FROM THE BUREAU OF FIELD SERVICES, THE SUPERVISORS AT NATIONAL STREET ARE TO ENSURE BAIL IS ARRANGED. THEY ARE TO MAKE THE CALL CALL THE BAIL MAGISTRATES.  WE'VE COORDINATED WITH THE BOSTON MUNICIPAL COURT. WE'RE PROVIDED WITH THE LISTS OF NAMES AND PHONE NUMBERS OF THE ON CALL BAIL MAGISTRATES. THERE'S TO BE NO DEVIATION FROM THAT SO EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT COMES IN THE SUPERVISOR AT NATIONAL STREET IS REQUIRED TO ENSURE THAT THE BAIL MAGISTRATE HAS BEEN CONTACTED AND THERE HAS BEEN THE EFFORT AND THE CONTACT AND THE COORDINATION TO ENSURE THAT A FAIR BAIL HEARING IS SET BETWEEN THE INDIVIDUAL THAT'S UNDER ARREST AND THE BAIL MAGISTRATE AND THERE'S NO DEVIATION FROM THAT.  IT JUST ADDS SOME CONTEXT TO THE TO TO THE THE BAIL PROCESS. I THINK WE KNOW AND THE THE PANELISTS WHO TESTIFIED BEFORE US HAD SPOKE ABOUT LOW NUMBERS OF PEOPLE BEING BAILED AND WHEN WE'LL WE'LL WE'LL DRILL DOWN AND GET THOSE ACCURATE NUMBERS OF HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN RELEASED ON BAIL BUT THE PROCESS TO BE RELEASED ON BAIL IS IS IS NOT IMMEDIATE ULTIMATELY.  MANY OF THE PEOPLE THAT COME INTO OUR CUSTODY BOTH UPON ARRAIGNMENT OR PRE ARRAIGNMENT HAVE BAIL AMOUNTS THAT ARE SUBSTANTIAL AND THAT CAN YOU KNOW, WE JUST KNOW FROM ECONOMIC DATA THAT THAT SOMETIMES COMMUNITIES AND FAMILIES IN OUR COMMUNITY WOULD STRUGGLE TO REACH A $500 BILL SOMETIMES OUR BILLS ARE $500,000. SOMETIMES PEOPLE ARE ARE HELD WITH NO BAIL BECAUSE OF A NUMBER OF FACTORS INCLUDING THE SEVERITY OF THE CRIME OR THEIR PREVIOUS RECORD. SO I THINK IT'S IT'S NOT AS SIMPLE SAY X NUMBER OF PEOPLE ARE NOT BEING RELEASED ON BAIL OR ARE BEING RELEASED ON BAIL. THE PROCESS FOR BAIL IS A PROCESS AND IT TYPICALLY INVOLVES SOME OUTSIDE ADVOCACY IN TERMS OF RAISING THOSE FUNDS, GETTING THOSE FUNDS AGGREGATED.  AND SO FOR PEOPLE I THINK AND ALSO WON'T SPEAK FOR THE COURT BUT OFTENTIMES OUR EXPERIENCES THERE'S A BAIL SET AND AS A PERSON GOES THROUGH ARRAIGNMENT AND MAY STAY IN CUSTODY, THAT BAIL MAY BE REDUCED THROUGH FURTHER COURT ACTION BUT TYPICALLY NOT AT THE FIRST POINT OF ARREST. SO I THINK THAT MAY SPEAK TO SOME OF THE BAIL ISSUES.  RIGHT. SO AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH.  THANK YOU ALL AGAIN FOR BEING HERE AND FOR FOR THAT PRESENTATION. AS WITH THE FIRST PANEL, I'D LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE SPONSOR TO BEGIN WITH THE FIRST ROUND OF QUESTIONS AND THEN I WILL TURN THE FLOOR OVER TO MY COLLEAGUES IN ORDER OF ARRIVAL AS PROMISED I WANT TO OFFER MY COLLEAGUES EXTENDED TIME THIS ROUND SO YOU HAVE TIME TO ASK QUESTIONS OF OUR SECOND PANELISTS AS WELL AS FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS FOR OUR FIRST PANELISTS IF DESIRED. I'D LIKE TO ASK MY COLLEAGUES TO LIMIT THE TIME OF YOUR QUESTIONS AND RESPONSES FROM OUR PANELISTS TO 8 MINUTES PER COUNCILOR INCLUDING PANELISTS RESPONSES IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO DIRECT ANY QUESTIONS TO A MEMBER OF THE FIRST PANEL PLEASE JUST INDICATE THAT WE'RE ASKING SO THEY CAN COME UP TO ONE OF THE PODIUM MIKES WITH THAT COUNCILOR FERNANDEZ ANDERSON, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. THANK YOU, MR THANK YOU EVERYONE AND ESPECIALLY THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.  YES, INDEPENDENT AND WE HERE AT THE COUNCIL DON'T LIKE TO USE SUBPOENA POWER. SO I NEED TO SPEAK WITH THE SHERIFF AND HE WAS VERY OPEN AND RESPONSIVE.  SO I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE AND SAVE ME A TRIP TO THE COURT HOUSE AND SO I REALLY APPRECIATED WHAT YOU SAID IN TERMS OF YOU EVOLVING PERSONALLY AND PROFESSIONALLY IN YOUR WORK. IT SPEAKS TO IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE THOUGHTFUL IN TERMS OF UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE COULD ALWAYS BE GROWTH AND THERE ARE CHANGES NEED TO BE MADE REFORM THAT IS STILL PENDING.  CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT IF ANY CHANGES WERE MADE TO NATIONAL STREET AND SOUTH AVE THAT IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU CAN ANSWER IN ORDER FOR A FACILITY CENTRAL BOOKING PROCESS A SIDE FROM SOME VERY I WOULD SAY VERY LIGHT CONSTRUCTION DONE BY THE BOSTON POLICE DEPARTMENT TO TO CONSTRUCT BOOKING STATIONS IN ALMOST VERY SIMILAR TO AN EL PATTERN WITHIN OUR EXISTING BOOKING STATION THEY ADDED A SMALL WOODEN RECEPTION AREA AND I THINK THAT WAS THAT WAS PERFORMED WITHIN A DAY NO OTHER GEOGRAPHIC OR COSMETIC CHANGES WERE MADE TO A NATIONAL STREET . WE USE THE EXISTING FACILITY AND FACILITY SPACES IN THAT CASE CAN YOU TELL ME IN TERMS OF ACCOMMODATIONS MEDICAL PSYCH ON I MEAN IF IT'S PSYCH THEY NEED SOMEWHERE TO MEET PRIVATELY YOU MENTIONED PSYCH 24 SEVEN ON CALL IS ONE IS THE MEDICAL YOU SAID 24 SEVEN ONSITE AS WELL? YES, MA'AM. OKAY. THANK YOU.  AND COULD YOU TELL ME ABOUT THIS ACCOMMODATION IN ORDER FOR THE SERVICES IN TERMS OF LOCATION, WHERE DID PEOPLE MEET? WHERE DID THEY GET THE MEDICAL CARE, THE LAUNDRY AND SO FORTH? YEAH. SO WE WE HAVE LOCATED OUR PRE ARRANGEMENT POPULATION WITHIN ONE OF OUR UNITS, OUR 63 UNITS SO IF YOU VISITED THE FACILITIES WE'VE LIKELY BROUGHT YOU THROUGH THE SIX 300 TO STANDARD 36 BED AREA AND IT PROVIDES FOR MEETING SPACES THERE AND MEDICAL CARE IS IS DELIVERED BOTH IN OUR RECEPTION AREA OUR INTAKE AREA AND IN THE THE UNIT IN WHICH PEOPLE RESIDE. SAKIS PEAK, THANK YOU SO MUCH. CAN YOU SPEAK A LITTLE BIT TO THE LEGALITY I COUNCILOR LOUIJEUNE MENTIONED BATISTE'S RULING AND JUST YOU MENTIONED I TOOK CHAPTER YOU CAN YOU CAN REMIND ME ON CHAPTER FOUR I'M SORRY SECTION FOUR CHAPTER 126 YEAH. CAN YOU ELABORATE SPECIFICALLY HOW THE RULING IN REFERENCE TO THE RULING HOW IT'S STILL LEGAL TO DO THIS? IT IT REMAINS LEGAL I BELIEVE THE BAPTIST CASE TALKS ABOUT THE LEGALITY OF SECTION OF COERCED TREATMENT BASICALLY PROTECTIVE CUSTODY POLICE TAKING SOMEONE INTO PROTECTIVE CUSTODY AND NOT IN THAT CASE THE PERSON WAS DROPPED OFF AT BELIEVE IT WAS THE ASH STREET JAIL IN BRISTOL COUNTY AND THAT'S UNLAWFUL AND OUR AGREEMENT SPECIFICALLY FORBIDS TAKING ANYBODY WHO'S BEEN ARRESTED AND HELD IN PROTECTIVE CUSTODY. WE DON'T DO THAT THERE. SO SO FROM OUR POINT OF VIEW, THE CONTROLLING AUTHORITY IS STILL SECTION FOUR OF CHAPTER 126 THAT SAYS WE'RE ALLOWED TO DO THIS.  THANK YOU AND WE CAN REFERENCE THAT IS IT OKAY, COULD YOU SEND US THAT SOME INFORMATION SAVED MY TEAM SOME TIME ON RESEARCH. REALLY APPRECIATE IT. YES. I'M JUST WAITING FOR THE CAPTURES TO CATCH UP WITH YOU. YES, I CAN DO THAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH.  ALSO IN TERMS OF IN TERMS I GUESS THIS IS MORE FOR BP LIKE WHO DECIDES WHICH PEOPLE WILL BE PROCESSED IN CENTRAL BOOKING VERSUS WHO WILL BE BOOKED IN THE PRECINCT AND HOW ARE THEY MAKING THAT DECISION? SURE. BASED ON GEOGRAPHICAL AREA, IF YOU ARE ARRESTED WITHIN A CERTAIN GEOGRAPHICAL AREA YOU GO TO AN ACTUAL STREET AND THAT'S MALES. THE FEMALES ARE STILL GOING TO THE LOCATION THING.  YES, MA'AM. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND WHO EVALUATES HOW THE DECISION OF WHETHER SOMEONE PLACED UNDER ARREST WILL BE TAKEN TO MEDICAL FACILITY OR CENTRAL BOOKING? YOU GET SOMEONE OBVIOUSLY THEY DON'T BELONG IN THE DISTRICT BECAUSE THEY HAVE THEY'RE SUFFERING FROM MENTAL ILLNESS OR ADDICTION. THEN HOW IS THAT EVALUATION OF PROCESS ASSESSED WHETHER THIS PERSON NOW GOES THERE OR DO YOU HAVE SOMEONE PROFESSIONALLY TRAINED TO BE ABLE TO ASSESS AND DO THAT TRIAGING WELL SO YOU KNOW, CLIMBING DOWN A LADDER IF SOMEONE IS INCAPACITATED DUE TO DRUG INGESTION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEY GO TO A HOSPITAL. THEY DO NOT GO TO A STATION OR NASHUA STREET IF SOMEONE IS IN MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS WE HAVE OUR BEST TEAM CLINICIANS. WE HAVE ALL YOU KNOW, OUR PARTNERS, OUR STREET OUTREACH UNIT. WE HAVE CRT IN MANY AREAS BUT CITYWIDE WE HAVE OUR BEST TEAM CLINICIANS THAT WE'RE ABLE TO CALL IN FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE IN MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS. THE CATCH ALL FOR US IS WE CAN CALL EMS FOR EVALUATION WHICH HAPPENS VERY FREQUENTLY.  SO THERE'S REALLY NO THIS HAPPENS THEN THAT IT'S IN THE MOMENT ON THE CALL IN THE MOMENT WITH THE PERSON YOU'RE DEALING WITH.  THE OFFICERS HAVE TO MAKE AN ASSESSMENT IF THIS PERSON NEEDS MEDICAL ATTENTION OR AN EVALUATION. IF THE PERSON ASKS FOR MEDICAL ATTENTION THEN THAT ANSWERS THE QUESTION RIGHT THERE. BUT BUT THERE'S ANY NUMBER OF SITUATIONS WHERE AN OFFICER WOULD CALL FOR EMS WHETHER IT'S MEDICAL OR FOR AN EVALUATION.  BUT THE BENEFIT OF GOING TO NATIONAL STREET IS EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT ENTERS THAT FACILITY IS EVALUATED BY THEIR MEDICAL STAFF WHERE THAT DOESN'T THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN WHICH THAT STATION THAT'S AFTER THEY GO THERE. BUT IN TERMS OF , YOU KNOW, PERFORMING THE EVALUATION, THE PERSON, THE OFFICER I GUESS THE ARRESTING OFFICER IS MAKING THAT DECISION. YES. OKAY.  AND I GUESS I UNDERSTAND DIFFERENT LEVELS OF CARE LIKE REALLY HIGH LEVEL OF CARE NOT NO PUN THERE INTENDED BUT JUST SOMEONE IS INCOHERENT OR TO THE LEVEL OF YOU CAN'T REALLY PROCESS WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE SUFFERING FROM A MENTAL ILLNESS AND IN THE IMMEDIATE WHAT CRITERIA DO YOU USE TO EVALUATE WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS A PERSON THAT SUFFERING FROM MENTAL ILLNESS? SO WE WE HAVE AT THIS POINT OVER 200 OF OUR OFFICERS THAT WORK ON THE STREET ARE GOING THROUGH THE CITY PROGRAM WHICH IS ALMOST LIKE A BEST TEAM CLINICIAN LIGHT PROGRAM THAT'S BUT THAT DEALS SPECIFICALLY WITH MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS UNDERSTANDING WHAT PEOPLE ARE GOING THROUGH SYMPTOMS, HOW IT MIGHT PRESENT ITSELF, WHAT CRITERIA OR WHEN DO YOU DECIDE IT'S TIME TO CALL THIS. SO IT WOULD IT WOULD BE DEPENDENT ON THE SITUATION AND BEHAVIOR. YEAH THE BEHAVIORS YEAH THANK YOU AND YOU MENTIONED WHAT IS THE NAME OF THE PERSON THE SUPERVISOR RESPONSIBLE FOR CALLING THEIR BAIL SO IT IS THE THE SUPERVISOR THE BOOKING SUPERVISOR SUPERVISOR HERE AT NASHUA STREET AND DO THEY CALL DO THEY RIGHT AWAY THEY CALL AFTER THE FINGERPRINTING AND OR HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN? SO WHAT ENDED UP HAPPENING FROM LIKE KIND OF A PROCESS STANDPOINT THE THE IDENTITY OF THE INDIVIDUAL HAS TO BE VERIFIED. SO WHAT HAPPENS IS THERE'S A PROCESS WHERE WE GET THAT WE SUBMIT A PERSON'S INFORMATION AND FINGERPRINTS AND ALL THE YEAH REMEMBER THAT INTO A CENTRAL TO A CENTRAL DATABASE WHICH IS LIKE NOT TELLING MY SECRET DATABASE RIGHT LIKE THIS IS WHO YOU ARE BECAUSE THE BAIL MAGISTRATE WANTS TO HAVE YOUR IDENTITY VERIFIED THIS IS THE PERSON AND THEN THE CHARGES HAVE TO BE VERIFIED.  YEAH. AND THEN WHEN WE HAVE ALL OF THIS WE CALL THE BAIL MAGISTRATE AND THEY WANT LIKE A DESCRIPTION OF WHAT HAPPENED, WHAT THE CHARGES ARE AND THEN IN THAT VERIFICATION PROCESS OF WHO THEY ARE ALSO GIVES YOU THEIR RECORD, THEIR THEIR PRIOR OFFENSES SO YOU UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT MORE TO INFORM THE BAIL CLERK WHEN THEY SHOW UP LIKE WE GOT THIS AND AND THEY DO THEY DO A SECOND SCREENING AS WE HEARD FROM THE PANELS RIGHT INTO ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS AS TO IS SOMETIMES IF THE INDIVIDUAL IS IN CUSTODY DOESN'T HAVE ACCESS TO THE FUNDS THEY'RE GOING TO NEED TO CONTACT A FAMILY MEMBER OR THE BAIL MAGISTRATE NEEDS TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION OF WHAT THE BAIL IS PRIOR TO NOTIFICATION TO A FAMILY MEMBER OR FRIEND THAT MAY BE COMING DOWN TO BOOK TO BAIL THE PERSON OUT. AND YOU HAVE DO YOU HAVE A PAMPHLET OR A FLIER OR SOMETHING POSTER OF RESOURCES TO THE ARRESTEE OR HOW DOES THAT WORK? DO YOU SAY WELL WE WANT RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO YOU FOR THE. SO WE PROVIDE PERSON ARRESTED YOU PROVIDE ALL THAT STUFF THAT THE BAIL MAGISTRATE NEEDS.  THEY DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO IT. WE DO WE PROVIDE THAT AND THAT IN. SORRY WHO SAID THAT IT HAPPENS EVERY SINGLE TIME A BAIL CLERK IS CALLED. I DID. OKAY.  THANK YOU. AND THEN I GUESS SORRY . YOUR NAME MIKE COLWELL. MICHAEL, ARE YOU A SHERIFF OR IS THAT FORMER SHERIFF? SUPERINTENDENT ? SHERIFF WOOTEN.  AND THANK YOU, MIKE. IN TERMS OF THE NUMBERS, THE BAIL NUMBERS ARE APPROVED. WHO GOT BAIL AND WHO DIDN'T? THE NUMBERS THAT WE GOT HERE OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A HUGE GAP.  AND ARE YOU CAN YOU PLEASE SUBMIT THE INFORMATION THROUGH THE CHAIR TO US? THE FULL DATA, THE ACTUAL NUMBERS AS YOU AS YOU MENTIONED. YES, PLEASE.  THANK YOU SO MUCH. SHOULD I YIELD, MR CHAIR? THANK YOU.  I WILL COME BACK TO MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.  THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNSELOR. I NOW HANDED OVER TO COUNSELOR FITZGERALD. THANK YOU, CHAIR.  THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE TODAY PROVIDING A PRESENTATION . MR CALDWELL, YOU PROBABLY THOUGHT YOU WERE HAVING A RELAX ING REST OF THE SUMMER BY CONGRATULATIONS, BUT THANK YOU FOR ALSO TAKING THE TIME COMING BACK. I'LL START WITH SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THE PREVIOUS PANEL HAD TO GIVE THEM DUE CREDIT THAT THEY WANTED TO ASK. I DIDN'T GET THEM ALL BUT WHO IS BEING BROUGHT TO CENTRAL BOOKING?  RIGHT. SO THAT WOULD BE MALE PRISONERS ADULT MALE PRISONERS THAT ARE ARRESTED ON DISTRICT FOUR SOUTH IN BACK BAY DISTRICT FORT WAS AREA DC6 MALES SOUTH BOSTON AND THEN ARRESTEES IN WHAT'S REFERRED TO AS THE MASSIVE GAS CATCHMENT AREA. THANK YOU.  AND WHAT IS BPD CHARGE IF ANY WHEN ARRESTING PEOPLE AT MASS AND GAS.  LIKE WHAT IS THE PERSON?  NO, NO, NO. LIKE WHAT IS THEIR WHAT ARE THEY WHAT IS THEIR CHARGE? WHAT NOT WHAT THEY'RE CHARGED NOT LIKE THE CRIME THEY'RE CHARGING WHAT IS THEIR DIRECTION THAT THEY ARE GIVEN WHEN MAKING ARRESTS AT MASS IN CARS? SO SO THAT THE THE ARRESTEE FROM THERE GOES TO NASSAU STREET THAT'S PART OF THE MASS AND GAS CATCHMENT AREA THERE.  THE BPD HAS A PRETTY BIG FOOTPRINT DOWN THERE. WE'RE WORKING IN CONCERT WITH OUR STREET OUTREACH UNIT CRT PUBLIC AND PRIVATE PARTNERS.  WE'RE DOING DRUG TREATMENT REFERRALS, HOUSING REFERRALS, MENTAL HEALTH REFERRALS, HUMAN TRAFFICKING INTERVENTION LIKE THERE'S A LOT. THAT'S OUR DIRECTIVE IS GO DOWN THERE AND TRY TO HELP. THANK YOU.  DO WE HAVE ANY DATA FROM BEFORE AND AFTER CENTRAL BOOKING IN TERMS OF I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF DATA GIVEN FROM THE PREVIOUS PANEL I DIDN'T GET TO READ IT AND WE DON'T WE DON'T HAVE THE HARD COPY IN FRONT OF US.  BUT DO WE HAVE ANYTHING OF HERE'S WHAT HAPPENED PRIOR TO CENTRAL BOOKING AND HERE'S WHY IT MAY BE BETTER NOW. IS THERE DATA TO SHOW THAT IN TERMS OF SAFETY INCIDENTS, YOU KNOW, HAZARDS THINGS THAT HAVE OCCURRED AND WHY? BECAUSE I'VE TALKED TO SOME FOLKS IN YOUR WORLD AND THEY SAY THEY THINK IT IS SAFER NOW. RIGHT WITH WITH CENTRAL BOOKING. BUT I JUST WONDER DO WE HAVE THAT THAT CAN'T BE JUST A A STATEMENT.  THERE NEEDS TO BE DATA AND IT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING WE DIDN'T KEEP I'M GUESSING IT'S PROBABLY DATA THAT WAS NOT KEPT VERY WELL PRIOR UNTIL THIS.  I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE CHALLENGE. WE WOULD HAVE TO CONTRAST IT WITH PRIOR DATA THAT PROBABLY WASN'T CAPTURED. I WOULD JUST SPEAK ANECDOTALLY THE FACT THAT WE PROVIDE A MEDICAL ASSESSMENT TO 100% OF THE PEOPLE WHO ENTER OUR FACILITY AND AND THAT WE'VE ENROLLED SUCH A HIGH NUMBER ON MEDICATION WITHIN WITHIN AN HOUR OF THEIR ARRIVAL IN OUR CUSTODY. I DON'T HAVE OTHER THAN THAT DATA I DON'T HAVE DATA TO BACK THAT BUT I THINK THAT IS AN IMPORTANT CONSIDERATION WHEN WHEN CONSIDERING THIS PROCESS. THANK YOU.  AND I THINK LASTLY, I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT WE'RE THERE ARRESTING FOLKS AT MASS IN CARS JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE UNHOUSED OR JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE USING DO IS THERE ANY DATA ON FOLKS THAT ARE ARRESTED FOR SEXUAL TRAFFICKING FOR HAVE HAVE WARRANTS ALREADY? I MEAN I'M SURE SOME OF THOSE ARRESTS THAT PROBABLY COME THROUGH CENTRAL BOOKING THERE ARE OTHER REASONS WHY THAT CAN JUST THAT FOLKS ARE UNHOUSED AND SEEKING SERVICES AND HAVE HAVE ADDICTION. BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY DATA SHOULD WE KEEP THOSE RECORDS AND WE DO KEEP YOU UP TO DATE COMPARISONS ON VIOLENT CRIME AND STUFF LIKE THAT AND WE ARE SEEING REDUCTIONS.  I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS IN FRONT OF ME BUT THERE ARE REDUCTIONS. THERE HAVE BEEN NO ARRESTS TO MY KNOWLEDGE FOR VIOLATING THE ENCAMPMENT ORDINANCE TO INCLUDE DURING THE FOUR OR FIVE DAY DEPARTMENT.  IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT EVERY RESIDENT OF ATKINSON STREET WAS EITHER PLACED VOLUNTARILY AND LOW THRESHOLD HOUSING OR THEY WERE RE-UNITE WITH FAMILY. THERE WAS A LOT OF POSITIVE OUTCOMES DOWN THERE BUT TO MY KNOWLEDGE THERE'S NOT BEEN ONE ARREST MADE UNDER THE CITY ORDINANCE. THE ENCAMPMENT ORDINANCE? YEAH.  THIS ISN'T SO MUCH OF A QUESTION BUT I'LL JUST END WITH THIS BECAUSE I KNOW THE NUMBER ONE COMPLAINT MY OFFICE GETS IN REPRESENTING THE AREA OF MASS AND CASS IS IT'S AS WORSE AS IT'S EVER BEEN. NOW THE ADMINISTRATION HAS SOME DATA THAT SAYS NUMBERS ARE ACTUALLY DOWN OVERALL WHICH IS ALWAYS IT'S GREAT TO BE TRENDING IN THAT DIRECTION BUT THE PERCEPTION IS RIGHT SINCE BREAKING UP ATKINSON STREET IT'S NOW POCKETS THAT HAVE GONE OVER TO THE SOUTH BAY AND I'M SORRY THAT'S THAT THE MALL OVER TO ANDREW SQUARE UP TO NUBIAN SQUARE FURTHER INTO THE SOUTH END AND SO IT'S JUST MORE VISIBLE NOW AND SO THE PERCEPTION IS FROM FROM MY CONSTITUENTS IS THAT IT'S WORSE THAN IT'S EVER BEEN. I KNOW IT'S NOT EASY WORK AND I JUST COMMEND YOU GUYS ON ON THE JOB YOU'RE DOING IF IN FACT THAT THAT THAT DATA IS REAL AND THAT IT BESIDES THE PERCEPTION THAT THE NUMBERS ARE GOING DOWN I KNOW A LOT OF THAT IS INTO THE GREAT WORK THAT YOU GUYS DO AND SO AGAIN THE REQUEST THEY GET IS WE NEED MORE POLICE WE NEED MORE POLICE OUT HERE BECAUSE THERE ARE FOLKS I THINK ABOUT THAT ARE RAISING THEIR FAMILIES THERE AND THEY HAVE TO WALK OUT AND THEY CAN'T LEAVE THEIR HOUSE BECAUSE SOMEONE'S SLEEPING IN THE FOYER OF THE SOUTH END. RIGHT. SEVERAL PEOPLE OR THE CAPS OF THE NEEDLES THAT LOOK LIKE CANDY AND LEFT OUT ON THE IN PARKS AND STREETS AND THESE ARE THE THINGS WE GET PICTURES OF CENTER EVERY DAY AND I KNOW WE YOU KNOW WE HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH WITH THE FOLKS IN THE SOUTH AND THE POLICE IN THE SOUTH END AND FOR ALL YOU GUYS DO. BUT I GUESS I JUST END WITH IT IS CERTAINLY NOT AN EASY PROBLEM AND NOT ONE THAT WE HAS AN EASY SOLUTION AND SO WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR PLAYING YOUR PART IN THE SOLUTION AS THE PREVIOUS PANEL AND THEIR PART IN THIS SOLUTION AS WELL AND TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE CARING FOR THOSE WHO NEED IT MOST AS WE GO FORWARD BUT ALSO RESPECTING PEOPLE'S QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THOSE OF US THAT TRY TO WAKE UP EVERY DAY AND YOU KNOW, BE CONTRIBUTING MEMBERS OF THIS SOCIETY AS WELL. SO IT'S CERTAINLY A TOUGH BALANCE. BUT THANK YOU, CHIP. APPRECIATE IT.  THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNSELOR. COUNSELOR, LET US HOPE I THOUGHT YOU HAD THE FLOOR. THANK YOU, CHAIR AND THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE. I APPRECIATE YOU COMING OUT OF RETIREMENT TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. SO WELCOME TO THE TANK. HAPPY TO HAVE YOU HERE.  WHO AND WHAT AGENCIES MAKE THE DETERMINATION WHETHER A PERSON IS ELIGIBLE FOR BAIL IS AT THE SUFFOLK SHERIFF'S OFFICE. IT'S THE TRIAL COURT. IT'S THE TRIAL COURT'S OKAY.  THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT DETAIL HERE IN THE TRIAL COURTS WERE INVITED TO SPEAK TO US TODAY BUT THEY COULDN'T MAKE IT. DO I HAVE THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.  OKAY. WHAT ARE THE BARRIERS IN YOUR OPINION TO GETTING A CLERK? SO I'VE HEARD TWO DIFFERENT THINGS AND AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE FOR MY RUDIMENTARY KNOWLEDGE BAIL CLERK AND MAGISTRATE ARE THEY THE SAME THING?  HOW ARE THEY DIFFERENT? THEY'RE USED INTERCHANGEABLY ALONG WITH BAIL COMMISSIONER OKAY SO IT'S I THINK THERE ARE DISTINCTIONS TO THE TERMS BUT IN MY EXPERIENCE ANY OF THOSE TERMS IDENTIFY A PERSON WHO WORKS FOR THE TRIAL COURT IN PROCESS AS BAIL.  OKAY. THANK YOU. AND I MEAN IT SEEMS LIKE THERE ARE SOME BARRIERS TO GETTING SOMEBODY OUT THERE BASED ON THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE TO GO TO COURT OR THERE MIGHT NOT BE ENOUGH OF THEM.  THERE IS ARE DO YOU SEE THOSE BARRIERS AS WELL? DO YOU THINK THAT WE NEED MORE LIKE WHAT I GUESS HOW DO YOU INTERACT WITH THEM AND DO WE JUST NEED TO HIRE MORE FOLKS OR CHANGE YOUR SCHEDULE OR SOMETHING BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THERE IS A DELAY. I WOULDN'T TERM A DELAY. I MEAN I THINK THERE'S A PROCESS AND OFTENTIMES DELAYS ARE A FUNCTION OF YOU KNOW, JUST JUST IF YOU WERE TO ARREST ME NOW I DON'T HAVE I DON'T HAVE $500 ON ME AND I'M GOING TO HAVE TO CALL MY WIFE AND SHE'S LIVING IN THE SUBURBS AND SHE'S YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE YOUNG CHILDREN THEY'VE GOT TO GET CARE FOR THAT AND IS A BANK OPEN LIKE SO THERE'S A NUMBER OF I THINK PROCEDURAL CHALLENGES IN THE BAIL SYSTEM BUT THE SYSTEM THAT EXISTS IS WE WE ADVOCATE FOR PEOPLE TO TO ACCESS IT. WE WORK CLOSELY WITH THE COMMISSIONERS, WE WORK CLOSELY WITH THE COURTS. IF THERE'S A MATTER IN WHICH IT'S A CLERICAL ISSUE THAT WE NEED TO RESOLVE GETTING A COMMISSIONER, GETTING FAMILY CONNECTED WE HAVE OUR PROGRAM SERVICE FOLKS I'VE TAKEN CALLS FROM FAMILY MEMBERS WHO ARE TRYING TO ARRANGE BAIL AND TRY TO PUT THEM IN THE RIGHT CIRCUMSTANCES BECAUSE THERE ARE I THINK HURDLES IN JUST WE'VE MOVED TO A CASHLESS SOCIETY AND I THINK A THAT THAT IS PROBABLY THE BIGGEST HURDLE AND THEN IT'S JUST AFFORDABILITY. THE YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THE PEOPLE WHO COME THROUGH OUR OUR CUSTODY WHETHER IT BE PRETRIAL OR POST ARRAIGNMENT OR THREE ARRAIGNMENT OR POST ARRAIGNMENT THERE ARE SOME VERY HIGH BILLS THAT I AND MANY I DON'T THINK MANY OF US SO I'M JUST SOME OF THE THE BILLS THAT ARE LISTED FOR THE FOLKS THAT WERE BROUGHT TO US THROUGH THIS CENTRAL LOCKUP A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS, $150,000 I'M READING DOWN COLUMNS THERE'S I'M TEN COLUMNS OF $100,000. THERE'S TEN COLUMNS OF $75,000. THEN WE GET INTO MAYBE 14 COLUMNS OF $50,000.20.  THOSE ARE BARRIERS FOR THE PROCESS. I DON'T KNOW I WOULD REFER I WOULD DEFER TO THE TRIAL COURT TO TO SEE IF THEY FOUND VALUE IN INCREASING THE NUMBER OF COMMISSIONERS OR MAGISTRATES AVAILABLE. OKAY. I WOULD LOVE TO SUBMIT THAT QUESTION MAYBE THROUGH THE CHAIR TO THE COURTS TO SEE IF THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO TO ANSWER THAT. I FEEL LIKE THAT'S AN IMPORTANT DETAIL HERE WE DID I MEAN THINKING ABOUT WHAT WE CAN POTENTIALLY DO WITHIN OUR CAPACITY AND POWER HERE IS YOU KNOW IT WAS HIGHLIGHTED THAT THERE'S A LACK OF A CENTRALIZED HUB FOR COMMUNICATION AND TRYING TO FIND INFORMATION AND LOVED ONES AND THAT LEADS TO INSECURITY AND JUST OVERALL FEAR OF WHAT IS HAPPENING TO FOLKS AND I CAN ONLY SYMPATHIZE BUT IT'S PRETTY COMPELLING AND SO I'M WONDERING HOW YOU I TRIED TO ATTRACT TRACK FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN ARRESTED AND ARE GOING THROUGH THIS VERY DETAILED SYSTEM GETTING TO THE PRE SAYING THE TRANSPORTATION BOOKING THE ID PRINT YOU WAIT 30 TO 45 MINUTES AND THEN YOU AT YOUR BPD YOU GET A BAIL CLERK MAGISTRATE SLASH COMMISSIONER IS THERE A WAY TO TRACK THIS ONLINE OR THROUGH SOME SORT OF SOFTWARE? WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE AND DOES IT EVEN EXIST? I'M NOT AWARE OF SOFTWARE THAT EXISTS THAT TRACKS PERSONS FROM ARREST AND THEN GOES THROUGH TO THE SUFFOLK COUNTY. YEAH, A DASHBOARD ALSO WE'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT ADULT ARRESTEES AND THERE'S CORY IMPLICATIONS AS WELL. LIKE YOU WE CAN'T JUST TELL SOME PERSON THAT CALLS ON THE PHONE EVERYTHING ABOUT WHAT THIS ADULT INDIVIDUAL THAT'S COME INTO POLICE CUSTODY IS HAS GOING ON. WHAT WE TRY TO DO IS WE ARRANGE FOR A CONVERSATION BETWEEN THE ARRESTEE AND THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS. THAT'S THE BEST CASE SCENARIO IS THAT IF YOU'RE ARRESTED IN THE SOUTH END YOU WOULD CALL THE SOUTH END POLICE STATION.  THE PEOPLE THEY SAY YOU'RE THEY'RE BEING HELD AT NASHUA STREET AND YOU CALL THERE WE WOULD ENDEAVOR TO GET THE TWO OF YOU ON THE PHONE TOGETHER TO SPEAK WITH EACH OTHER. THAT IS THE BEST CASE SCENARIO BECAUSE YOU CAN TELL YOUR LOVED ONE ANYTHING YOU WANT. WE CAN'T WE CAN TELL THEM THAT YOU'RE HERE BUT WE CAN'T REALLY GET INTO THE DETAILS OF YOUR CASE ANECDOTALLY ON AVERAGE IN YOUR EXPERIENCE, HOW LONG DOES THAT TAKE? IT DEPENDS BUT I CAN TELL YOU FROM AN ARRESTEE IN BPD CUSTODY WE TRIED TO GET THAT PERSON BAILED AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. THAT'S JUST AN UNDERLYING PHILOSOPHY FOR US. OKAY. AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION HERE I APOLOGIZE DOES THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN BBT AND THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT PERMIT THE DEPARTMENT TO ACCEPT PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN PLACED INTO PROTECTIVE CUSTODY BY PPD? NO. OKAY.  SO FOLKS WHO ARE ONLY GETTING TO THE SUFFOLK COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT HAS EITHER HAS A WARRANT OUT FOR ARREST OR THERE'S SOME SORT OF A COMMISSION OF A CRIME. IT JUST AS A AS I'VE SEEN ONE PROTECTIVE CUSTODY INCIDENT MY WHOLE CAREER IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S COMMON. PROTECTIVE CUSTODY IS NOT A COMMONLY USED I'VE SEEN ONE. SO THESE ARE FOLKS THAT ARE UNDER ARREST.  OKAY. THAT'S ALL FOR MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, EVERYBODY.  THANK YOU, COUNSELOR. THIS IS GREAT BUT I HAVE JUST A FEW QUESTIONS AND THEN I'LL TURN IT OVER AGAIN TO THE SPONSOR.  SO DEPUTY SUPERINTENDENT HUMPHREYS, YOU KNOW, CAN YOU USE I THINK EARLIER YOU WERE GOING AGAINST YOUR NAME OF THE GEOGRAPHIC AREAS THAT THE FACILITY CAN USE IDENTIFY AGAIN THE GEOGRAPHICAL BOUNDARIES OF MARTIN CASTLE MARTIN CASTLE CATCHMENT AREA AND INTO MORE DETAIL. I KNOW YOU KIND OF WENT IN THROUGH BRADLEY BUT SURE AND I DON'T I DON'T HAVE THEM UP IN FRONT OF ME SO I'LL GIVE YOU KIND OF LIKE A BROAD IT'S BASICALLY THE SOUTH BOSTON SIDE DOWN BY SOUTH BAY UP INTO THE MASS AND CASS AREA PROPER WITH A LITTLE BIT OF MARGIN ON THE SIDES AND THEN GOING DOWN THE CAS BOULEVARD SIDE A LITTLE BIT I CAN GET YOU A MORE DETAILED MAP. OKAY. YEAH I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT. YEAH I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A MAP THAT YOU MAY ALL HAVE YOU KNOW I KNOW USE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION FROM OTHER THAN YOU SAID EARLIER AS WELL BEARING ANY MEDICAL REASON TO BE TAKEN TO A HOSPITAL OR OTHER CARE. ARE ALL ADULT MALES INVESTED IN THE MATH AND CASTLE CATCHMENT AREA TAKEN TO CENTRAL BOOKING OR ARE THERE ADDITIONAL CRITERIA BASED ON THE SPECIFIC CHARGE, A CHARGE OR OTHER FACTORS? NO. IF YOU'RE ARRESTED IN THAT AREA YOU GO TO MASS IN CASH AND AS FAR AS THE MEDICAL THING GOES,  AS A MATTER OF POLICY, IF A PERSON THAT IS IN OUR CUSTODY NEEDS MEDICAL ATTENTION, THEY GO TO A HOSPITAL BEFORE THEY GO TO A POLICE STATION, YOU DON'T GO TO THE STATION FIRST AND THEN THE HOSPITAL IF THE DETERMINATION IS MADE ON SCENE THAT THIS PERSON NEEDS MEDICAL ATTENTION, WE CALL THE AMBULANCE AND THEY GO TO THERE'S A MEDICAL EVALUATION IF THE TERMINATION IS MADE THAT THEY NEED TO GO TO THE HOSPITAL, THEY GO TO THE HOSPITAL AND NOT THE POLICE STATION AND IS THERE A DATE ON THAT IN TERMS OF HOW MANY PEOPLE ASK FOR THAT? BECAUSE IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS WILL BE AT THE DISCRETION OF THE ARRESTING OFFICER. CORRECT?  YEAH. OR AT THE REQUEST OF THE INDIVIDUAL. SO THERE'S CERTAINLY I DON'T I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT WOULD BE TRACKED.  ALL RIGHT. WELL THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. I'LL TURN IT OVER AGAIN TO THE LEAD SPONSOR TRYING TO PUT THE COUNSELOR FOR AMNESTY ANDERSON. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR CHAIR.  WHAT UNITS, IF ANY WERE RELOCATED NASHUA STREET JAIL AND TO WHERE AND TO WHERE TO ALLOW SPACE FOR BP AND STATE POLICE CENTRAL BOOKING UNITS AND HOW HAS THAT IMPACTED DETAINED AND INCARCERATED PEOPLE? WE WE DID NOT TRANSFER PEOPLE SPECIFIC TO THIS. WE HAD A VACANT UNIT AS A AS SOME OF THE DATA WAS DISPLAYED EARLIER RATES OF INCARCERATION AND EVEN PRETRIAL DETENTION ARE DOWN AND SO WE HAVE VACANT SPACE WITHIN OUR FACILITY THAT WE DEDICATED FOR THIS PROGRAM.  THANK YOU. HOW MUCH MONEY DOES BP SPEND ON STAFFING FOR CENTRAL BOOKING FACILITY?  SO THE SO THE DISTRICTS THAT ARE SENDING ARRESTEES TO NASHUA STREET, THE BOOKING OFFICER THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN AT THAT STATION REPORTS TO NASHUA STREET. SO IT IS AN ON DUTY PERSON IT IS NOT THERE'S NO COST SAVINGS, NO ADDITIONAL ADDITIONAL COST SAVINGS SAY WELL THE COST SAVINGS WOULD BE SO AREA D HAS TWO DISTRICT STATIONS ALL OF AREA THESE PRISONERS GO TO NASHUA STREET AND ONE BOOKING OFFICER GOES THERE. SO IT IS A REDUCTION OF ONE BOOKING OFFICER FOR THE AREA. DO WE ARE YOU ABLE TO SUBMIT THE COST SAVINGS FOR C SIX AND D FOUR AND I I HAVE LEFT OUT AREA IS ALSO GOING THERE AND LEFT THAT OUT SO IT'S ADC6 SO IT'S TWO FROM AREA IT'S ONE FROM AREA ONE FROM D AND ONE FROM C R MINUS ONE SO IT'S THREE GOT A REDUCTION OF THREE INDIVIDUALS. ARE YOU ABLE TO SEND SORT OF DO YOU HAVE DO YOU HAVE DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH YOU'RE SAVING, HOW MUCH YOU'RE SAVING BY DOING THIS? I DON'T KNOW THAT I COULD FIND OUT. OKAY THANK YOU THROUGH THE CHAIR I THINK A QUESTION FROM US TO THE COMMISSIONER AND THEN RIGHT BECAUSE IT'S DIFFERENT DISTRICTS OR IS IT FAIR TO JUST ASK YOU TO GIVE US FOR ALL YOUR DISTRICTS? OKAY, YEAH, GREAT. THANK YOU. AND WHAT IF ANY PHYSICAL CHANGES?  I MEAN I'VE I'VE SORRY I'VE ASKED THIS ALREADY AND WHEN PEOPLE ARE ADMITTED TO JAIL OVERNIGHT OR OVER THE WEEKEND, ARE THEY SLEEPING IN BED UNITS? YOU MENTIONED THAT THEY HAD LIKE, YOU KNOW, LINEN AND ALSO STUFF AND OR DETAINED AND EQUIVALENT OR BOOKING.  SO NO, THEY'RE HELD IN THE UNIT THAT'S DEDICATED AND EVERYONE HAS THEIR THEIR OWN BED BEDDING MATTRESS THEIR OWN ROOM ESSENTIALLY THANK YOU HOW ARE THEIR MEALS PROVIDED WE HAVE A FULLY STAFFED KITCHEN. WE PROVIDE MEALS TO EVERYONE IN OUR CUSTODY BREAKFAST, LUNCH AND DINNER DOES THAT HAPPEN TO ME ? ARE THEY OFFERED IMMEDIATELY AFTER THEY GET INTO THE UNIT?  IT DEPENDS UPON IF IT COINCIDES WITH A MEAL TIME. YOU KNOW IF YOU'RE ARRIVING IF YOU'RE ARRIVING AROUND 1:00 WE'LL WE'LL HAVE LUNCH LEFT OVER IF IT'S MAYBE CLOSER TO THREE. LUNCH HAS ALREADY BEEN THAT SERVICE HAS BEEN TERMINATE AND WE'RE ALREADY GEARING UP FOR DINNER. SO THE NEXT TIME AN OPPORTUNITY WOULD BE AT ABOUT 530 FOR DINNER. THANK YOU. SORRY TO WHAT IF IT'S A WOMAN WHO'S EXPECTING HOW DOES SHE HAVE TO WAIT FOR A REAL TIME? IS THE FEMALE'S FEMALE PRISONER OR NOT GOING TO NATIONALS? I KNOW. OH, YOU'RE SAYING THAT C SIX SO THE DIFFERENCE IS AT THE STATION WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE HER WITH SOMETHING NEED AT ANY TIME.  ARE THERE ANY ARE ARE SO WOMEN ARE NOT BEING PROCESSED TO GO AT ALL THESE ARE JUST ADULT MALES YOU MENTIONED ADULT MALES AND WHAT ABOUT SEXUAL ORIENTATION OR LIKE ARE YOU SKINNY OR LIKE APPROPRIATE PLACEMENT OF PEOPLE OF DIFFERENT ORIENTATIONS? YEAH. SO WE HAVE A POLICY IN THE INDIVIDUAL REPORTS TO US AND TELLS US THEY TELL US MALE FEMALE THEY THEM WHICHEVER WE FOLLOW THE POLICY I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME BUT IF THE INDIVIDUAL SAYS FEMALE THEY'RE BUMPED AS A FEMALE UNDER THE TRANSGENDER POLICY I SEE I GUESS DIFFICULT IF SOMEONE IS EXPERIENCING MENTAL ILLNESS OR SOME SORT OF MANIA AT THE TIME THEN HOW DO THEY ADVOCATE FOR THEMSELVES?  I GUESS GOING BACK TO THE QUESTION ABOUT THE CRITERIA FOR EVALUATION IN TRIAGING PEOPLE FOR APPROPRIATE PLACEMENT, I'M REALLY CURIOUS ABOUT THAT IS THE BOSTON POLICE DEPARTMENT RELIABLY AND CONSISTENTLY CALLING SORRY THE YOU SAID YES SIR AND BEING ALLOWED TO MAKE PHONE CALL TO FACILITY BEING BILLED. YES.  AND CAN YOU TELL ME WHEN THAT HAPPENS SO SO SO WE'RE REQUIRED BY STATUTE WITHIN ONE HOUR ARRIVAL AT THE STATION AN INDIVIDUAL IS ALLOWED A PHONE CALL TO CONTACT INDIVIDUALS,  YOU KNOW, TO ARRANGE FOR BAIL AN ATTORNEY FAMILY AND STUFF LIKE THAT ON THE FRONT END WHEN IT AS IT RELATES TO THE BAIL ISSUE WE DIRECT THE SUPERVISORS TO ENSURE AND THAT THAT MEANS MAKE THE CALL YOURSELF SO EVEN IF THE INDIVIDUAL DOES NOT CALL LET'S SAY THE IF THE INDIVIDUAL ACCESS TO THE PHONE AND THEY CALL A FRIEND AND NOT A BAIL MAGISTRATE OUR SERGEANT OR SUPERVISOR AT THE JAIL IS TO CALL THE BAIL MAGISTRATE REGARDLESS OF WHETHER OR NOT THE INDIVIDUAL CALLS OR NOT.  BUT THAT ALL HAPPENS RIGHT DURING THE BOOKING PROCESS AND THEN LATER IT IS NOT UNCOMMON AT ALL. AND ALSO THERE'S PHONES LIKE SO WHEN SOMEBODY GOES INTO JUST LIKE IN OUR STATION IN OUR STATION IN THE CELL THERE IS A PHONE ON THE WALL THAT YOU CAN USE. SO WHEN A PERSON GETS TURNED OVER AND THEY'RE IN THESE HOUSING UNITS LIKE YOU MENTIONED, SEVERAL THOUSAND PHONE CALLS HAVE GONE OUT,  THEY'RE ALLOWED TO MAKE THOSE CALLS. SO IT'S REALLY LIKE FROM THE TIME THEY GET THERE TILL THE TIME THEY LEAVE IF THEY NEED TO MAKE A CALL TO ARRANGE FOR BAIL OR TO OR WHATEVER IT IS.  MM HMM. THANK YOU. WHAT IS THE BAIL CLERK'S CURRENT APPROACH TO SETTING BAIL FOR PEOPLE DETAINED IN THE CENTRAL BOOKING UNIT? SO THE TWO THAT'S THAT'S REALLY ON THEM THEY'RE THE BAIL MAGISTRATES.  THEY HAVE THEIR OWN GUIDELINES THAT THEY DO AND THAT'S AN ARRANGEMENT THAT'S A LIKE AN EVENT THAT TAKES PLACE BETWEEN THE ARRESTEE OR THE PERSON IN CUSTODY AND THEM. HAVE THERE BEEN ANY REPORTED OBSTACLES?  YOU KNOW I CAN SAY THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE NOT PLEASED WITH THE AMOUNT OF BAIL MONEY THAT YOU KNOW THE THE AMOUNT OF THE BAIL THAT WILL COME UP INABILITY OF A FAMILY MEMBER TO MAKE IT YOU KNOW, TO FACILITATE FACILITATE THAT TRANSACTION.  I'M SORRY . THANK YOU. A MOMENT IF YOU WILL MALLORY'S CAN YOU PLEASE COME DOWN? COULD YOU ANSWER TO THIS IN TERMS OF OBSTACLES?  CAN YOU JUST REPEAT THE QUESTION, COUNSELOR?  SORRY . NO PROBLEM. SO THE BAIL MAGISTRATE OR THE CLERKS HAVE THEIR OWN CRITERIA OR PROTOCOL THEY FOLLOW. BUT WHAT ARE SOME OF THESE? SOME OF THESE? YES. SO TO BACK UP FOR A SECOND IN MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE BEING ARRESTED POSTING BAIL FOR LOTS OF PEOPLE BEFORE THEY WERE ARRAIGNED AS WELL AS AFTER YOU DON'T MAKE A PERSONAL PHONE CALL TO THE MAGISTRATE. THE OFFICER HAS TO CALL THE MAGISTRATE BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE DOCUMENTATION. YOUR ARREST REPORT THE THEY RUN YOUR THE BOP LIKE THIS IS A CONVERSATION BETWEEN THE OFFICER AND THE MAGISTRATE SO WE DON'T HAVE THERE'S NOT A PRIVATE BUSINESS HERE WHERE YOU CALL A BAIL BONDSMAN LIKE YOU DO IN ANOTHER STATE SO THE BAIL THERE HAS TO BE A CONVERSATION BETWEEN THE OFFICER AND THE MAGISTRATE ABOUT SETTING THE BAIL AND THEN THAT HAS TO BE COMMUNICATED WITH THAT PERSON AND THEN IT WOULD MAKE SENSE THAT THEY NEED TO MAKE A PERSONAL PHONE CALL TO THEIR LOVED ONE TO SAY THIS IS HOW MUCH IT IS. CAN YOU COME GET IT? CAN YOU COME GET ME ? SO THAT MATRIX OF DECISION MAKING THAT'S DONE BY THE MAGISTRATE THAT IS THEIR DECISION AND IT'S BASED ON, YOU KNOW, YOUR PRIOR HISTORY, THE SEVERITY OF THE ALLEGATIONS AND A NUMBER OF THINGS AND SO THAT THAT THAT AMOUNT IS THEN SET AND THEN IF YOU'RE ABLE TO MAKE IT YOU KNOW SOMEBODY CAN COME DOWN AND AND POST IT FOR YOU. SO THE PROCESS ITSELF LIKE GETTING ARRESTED IS TRAUMATIC. YES. IN THAT MOMENT FOR ME TO HAVE TO THINK WAIT, I ALREADY USE MY ONE CALL BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE BAIL IS SO NOW CAN I CALL AGAIN? RIGHT. SO THAT IT SHOULD BE COMMUNICATED TO YOU WHAT THE AMOUNT IS.  I THINK I HAVE A LARGER CONCERN ABOUT HEARING THAT. WELL WE ALSO SUBMITTED A RECORDS REQUEST ASKING SPECIFICALLY FOR THE BAIL AND ALSO I KNOW THAT YOU'LL GET IT YOU'VE BEEN RESPONSIVE IN THE PAST. WE APPRECIATE THAT. SO WE WANT THERE ARE GOING TO BE IN REALITY SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT BAILABLE IF YOU ARE ARRESTED AND YOU HAVE A WARRANT, YOU'RE NOT RELEASABLE. SO THERE'S AN UNDERSTANDING THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE HELD UNTIL THEIR ARRAIGNMENT BECAUSE THEY'RE BEING HELD ON A WARRANT. PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE A HIGH BAIL AND THEY MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO PAY IT. BUT THEN THERE WAS ALSO A CONVERSATION AND THAT QUITE A FEW PEOPLE ARE HELD ON MOUNTS LIKE $500 ETC. THAT SOMEBODY IN THEIR LIFE COULD OR MIGHT BE ABLE TO PAY.  AND SOMETIMES YOU ARE RELEASED ON RECOGNIZANCE FROM FROM CUSTODY. SO WE NEED TO SEE THAT IT CAN'T BE WE HAVE TO SEE THE DATA ABOUT WHAT THESE AMOUNTS ARE, HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE ELIGIBLE TO BE RELEASED ON THEIR COGNIZANCE AND THEN HOW SOON THE PHONE CALL IS BEING MADE IN ORDER TO ASCERTAIN IF THE PROCESS IS HAPPENING SMOOTHLY.  GIVE ME A SECOND. MM HMM. THAT'S A REALLY GOOD POINT,  COUNCILOR . A LOT OF MENTIONED DASHBOARD IT DOESN'T EXIST.  IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS ARE OPEN TO DO IN TERMS OF CREATING ON A WEBSITE YOU CAN GET DATA FOR EXAMPLE YOU HAVE IT IN YOUR PHONE RIGHT NOW. I WAS ASKING I WAS GOING TO GIVE YOU MY CELL PHONE NUMBER SO YOU CAN TEXT IT TO ME BUT IF YOU CAN'T SHARE IT YET MAYBE THIS DASHBOARD OR MAYBE SUBMITTING IT TO US ON RECORD SO WE CAN SORT OF LOOK AT IT BUT WHAT SHE WHAT WHAT SHE'S ADVOCATING FOR IS WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE THAT DATA WITHOUT CONFIDENTIALITY BREACH OR ANY OF THOSE ISSUES YOU WOULD JUST SEE NUMBERS, BAIL AMOUNTS, HOW MANY EVERY MONTH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT BECAUSE TWO OUT OF I AND I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS ALSO ASK FOR THOSE I KNOW THERE'S OVER 900 NOW BUT TWO OUT OF 487 PEOPLE IS PRETTY ALARMING AND SO WE HAVE HEARD THROUGH CONVERSATIONS THAT THERE HAVE BEEN BARRIERS TO MAGISTRATES COMING TO NATIONAL STREET JAIL INCLUDING DOCUMENTATION THAT THE PAPERWORK FROM THE ARREST ON THE STREET, EVERYTHING THAT THEY NEED IS NOT FOLLOWING THE PERSON INTO DETENTION AT NASSAU STREET AND THEREFORE THEY DON'T HAVE WHAT THEY NEED TO MAKE THE DECISION ABOUT THE PERSON'S BAIL. SO YEAH, OUR RESPONSE TO THAT PLEASE.  SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULDN'T HAPPEN WHEN A PRISONER IS TRANSFERRED TO THE CUSTODY OF SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT . THEIR PAPERWORK THAT HAS TO GO TO COURT HAS TO GO WITH THEM OR THE COURT WON'T ACCEPT THEM. SO WE'RE THAT WAS A PROBLEM WE WOULD HEAR ABOUT. WE'RE DEPENDENT UPON THAT PAPERWORK TO PROCESS THE INDIVIDUAL.  WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO IT WITHOUT THE PAPERWORK. SO I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT THAT'S THE BARRIER I'M CERTAINLY WILLING TO EXPLORE YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S SOMETHING BEYOND THE PAPERWORK. BUT JUST FROM A PROCESS ISSUE NOT WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD IN THE IN THE INTAKE WITHOUT IT WITHOUT PAPERWORK.  THIS DOES BEG THE QUESTION ARE YOU OR YOUR DEPARTMENT BOTH PPD AND SHERIFFS WILLING TO HAVE A MEETING WHERE WITH THE ADVOCATES YOU OFFER US A TOUR? HAVE THE ADVOCATES BEEN OFFERED A TOUR AND HAVE YOU HELD MEETINGS WHERE YOU TRIED TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS OUTSIDE OF THIS HEARING?  I KNOW THAT WE RESPONDED THERE WAS AN INITIAL I BELIEVE FROM THE GROUPS REPRESENTED HERE THAT YOUR INITIAL COMPLAINTS CAME IN THROUGH EMAIL AND THOSE THOSE EMAILS HAVE BEEN PICKED UP BY MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY AND WE STILL RECEIVED THOSE THOSE EMAILS TODAY BUT WE RESPONDED PRETTY QUICKLY TO THAT INITIAL REQUEST FROM THE GROUP AND NOW THE REQUESTS CONTINUE TO COME IN FROM MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY BUT I THINK THAT SHOWS THE WORK THAT WE'VE DONE WITH MASS BAIL FUND DURING THE PANDEMIC WHEN WE WHEN WE SAID LET'S WE'LL PRESCREEN THE PEOPLE SO WE'LL KIND OF MAKE THE PROCESS EASIER JUST TO TO RELEASE PEOPLE ON BAIL.  ABSOLUTELY. SO I'LL HAVE TO I'LL HAVE TO QUALIFY THAT I'M NOT AN EMPLOYEE OF THE DEPARTMENT ANYMORE SO I DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN INVITE MEETINGS BUT I KNOW SHERIFF TOMPKINS AND I KNOW THAT HE'S COMMITTED TO SERVING THE CONSTITUENCIES AND PROVIDING GOOD GOVERNMENT.  SO AT THE CONCLUSION OF THIS MEETING I'LL HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH HIM AND I'LL SPEAK WITH I'LL SAY I'M VERY CONFIDENT THAT HE WILL HE WILL WANT TO MEET WITH THE ADVOCATES HAVE HAVE THE TEAMS MEET WITH THE ADVOCATES. GO TO THAT UPDATE SORRY , MALLORY, ONE FINAL RESPONSE AND THEN I WANTED TO HEAR THE REST OF THE ADVOCATES IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS THAT WE'VE MISSED HERE SO THAT WE CAN IN MY WRAP UP I CAN DO THAT. SURE. I DID SUBMIT TO YOUR STAFF THE RECORDS REQUESTS THAT WE MADE RECENTLY. I THINK IT'S SEVEN DAYS AGO TOTAL MY BUSINESS DAYS.  SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING THESE NUMBERS A FEW THINGS THAT I WANTED TO MENTION WAS THAT WE KNOW THAT THE TWO PEOPLE IN THAT SIX MONTH PERIOD FROM NOVEMBER TO MAY THAT WERE BAILED OUT OF THE 487 BOTH HAD BAILS OF UNDER $1,000.  SO THERE IS AN URGENT NEED TO LOOK AT THE AMOUNTS THAT PEOPLE ARE BEING HELD AT. THEY'RE NOT THEY'RE NOT ALL HIGH. I THINK THERE IS A NEED TO CLARIFY THE PAPERWORK PROCESS AND HOW FAST IT'S HAPPENING. THERE'S ALSO A NEED TO THINK ABOUT IT. I KNOW THEY COULDN'T BE HERE THAT'S ON THEM BUT THE FURTHER THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE PROCESS WORKING DIFFERENTLY AT NASHUA, IF THERE'S A COMMISSIONER THAT'S COMING AT 7:00 BY THE WAY IF YOU MISS IT, THAT'S IT. IF YOU'RE IF YOUR LOVED ONE'S ALREADY BEEN ARRAIGNED THEN WHO LIKE I KNOW THERE'S A SEPARATE ROSTER OF INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE WILLING TO COME IF YOU ARE AT THE PRECINCT THEY COULD COME AT 2 A.M. OR 3 A.M. OR 5 A.M.. SO EVEN IF YOU'RE WALKING OUT OF THE PRECINCT AT 8 A.M. YOU'RE STILL GETTING OUT BEFORE YOUR ARRAIGNMENT. SO WE HAVEN'T I THINK WE HAVE AN IMPRESSION FROM CLERKS THAT THERE ARE NOT PEOPLE AVAILABLE THAT ARE GOING OVERNIGHT OR MULTIPLE TIMES OVERNIGHT TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE BEING HELD. BUT WE WOULD LIKE A CLARIFICATION ABOUT THAT AND IT JUST AS AS I THOUGHT AS WE HEARD THAT THERE WAS A THERE WAS AN OPEN UNIT WE'VE BEEN TRACKING THIS SO FROM NOVEMBER SO FROM JUST LOOKING AT THE WEEKLY COUNT SHEETS EVERY WEEK FROM NOVEMBER WE NOTICED THAT THERE WAS A LARGE MOVEMENT OF PEOPLE FROM NASHUA TO SOUTH BAY. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS RELATED TO CENTRAL BOOKING.  I KNOW THERE'S H-BACK WORK THAT'S PLANNED ETC. IT MAY NOT BE BECAUSE OF THAT BUT THERE CERTAINLY HAS BEEN A MOVEMENT OF PEOPLE. I JUST WANTED TO EXPLAIN WHY OUR ALARM WAS RAISED ABOUT HOW PEOPLE WERE ABOUT HOW PEOPLE WERE BEING MOVED AROUND SO THOSE ARE JUST SOME OF THE THE TECHNICAL THINGS AND I CAN PASS ON BUT I JUST I'M ALSO JUST THINKING THROUGH THE PEOPLE THAT AND I'M TRYING TO GET IN HE SAID SHE SAID I KNOW THAT THAT'S NOT WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE HEARD FROM DID NOT GET THEIR MEDICATION, DID NOT GET TO SPEAK TO SOMEBODY AND THAT'S JUST A DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE AND WE'VE HEARD FROM A FEW COMMUNITY MEMBERS OF COURSE WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM ANYBODY. I'M ALSO LIKE IN THINKING ABOUT THE TIMELINE AND THE PROVISION OF THOSE SERVICES OR THE ACCESS IS LIKE IS THAT HAPPENING OVERNIGHT? AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT NUMBER ONE, WE'RE NOT FUNNELING PEOPLE INTO NASHUA STREET IN ORDER TO GET THEM TO SEE MENTAL HEALTH PROVIDER. THAT'S NOT A REASON TO ARREST PEOPLE. THAT'S NOT HOW WE SHOULD BE USING INCARCERATION. I THINK THERE'S SOME AGREEMENT AROUND THAT ALTHOUGH I KNOW THAT YOU KNOW, THAT'S A POINT OF BROADER DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW WE'RE DEPLOYING ARRESTS AND CRIMINALIZATION IN ORDER TO GET PEOPLE OFF THE STREET. THE OTHER THING IS SO WE'VE HAD CONCERN ABOUT THAT DELAYING ARRAIGNMENT OR TAKING YOU KNOW, ARRAIGNMENT FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE BEING DETAINED AT NASHUA STREET TAKING LONGER THAN IT WOULD IF YOU WERE AT THE PRECINCT AND JUST IN GENERAL THIS IS BEING NET WIDENING THAT MORE PEOPLE ARE BEING TURNED INTO THE CRIMINAL LEGAL SYSTEM BECAUSE OF THE EXISTENCE OF CENTRAL BOOKING. THEN IT WAS THEN THAN THAN IT WAS PREVIOUSLY AND I THINK WE'RE YOU KNOW, JUST A PAUSE FOR A SECOND AND WHEN WE'RE THINKING ABOUT LIKE WHAT ARE OUR APPROACHES TO OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS, THE SHERIFFS DEPARTMENT IS IS NOT THE RESOURCE THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. WE'RE LOOKING FOR ACCESS TO LOW BARRIER HOUSING AND THE CONVERSATION CONTINUES TO BE AROUND FROM THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT PERSPECTIVE WITH WITH ALL DUE RESPECT WE GET WHO WE GET RIGHT AND THEN WE HAVE TO TAKE THE BEST POSSIBLE CARE OF PEOPLE IN OUR CUSTODY. WE HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT CARE GIVEN THE RECENT DEATHS. WE ALSO HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT CONTINUING TO JUST ACCEPT WE GET WHO WE GET WHEN WE KNOW WE'RE MAKING DECISIONS AS CITY OFFICIALS ABOUT WHO WE ARE CRIMINALIZING, WHO WE ARE ARRESTING AND WHY AND WHAT OTHER APPROACHES WE COULD BE TAKING RATHER THAN CONTINUING TO FORCE PEOPLE INTO CUSTODY. YOUR POINT I THINK I WANT THANK YOU. I GUESS WE'RE GOOD. OH, SORRY . DID YOU HAVE MORE? OH, I APOLOGIZE. GO AHEAD BECAUSE I.  I THINK IT'S FINAL ROUND. OKAY. OH NO, I DIDN'T AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO. I DO. YES, I DO. IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT MALLORY HAS NOT MENTIONED, I AM INTERESTED IN CREATING SOME SORT OF CONTINUITY TO THIS CONVERSATION.  SO THIS IS THIS HAS BEEN A HEARING WHERE WE HEAR ABOUT THINGS IN DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES AND I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE IT TO THE NEXT LEVEL SO THAT IT'S MORE HOLISTIC. YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT POLICIES AS THE THE SUTURES THAT SO HOPEFULLY INVEST OUR DOLLARS IN SOCIAL CENTERS OF HEALTH AS A PREVENTATIVE MEASURE AS OPPOSED TO CATCHING PEOPLE WHEN THEY'RE DOWN AND CRIMINAL FURTHER CRIMINALIZING PEOPLE WHEN THEY'RE DOWN. RIGHT. AND SO THAT REQUIRES A LEVEL OF INVESTMENT IN CONVERSATIONS, COMMUNITY LISTENING SESSIONS, GATHERING FEEDBACK AND THEN BRINGING THAT AS LEGISLATURE AND HERE BUT ALSO TO OUR TO THE MAYOR TO HAVE FURTHER CONVERSATION ABOUT FUTURE INVESTMENTS AS WE SEE IT. YOU SAW US ADVOCATE THROUGH THE BUDGET AND HOW DIFFICULT THAT WAS AND HOW PRIORITIZING, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT DOLLARS AND INVESTMENTS.  SO I, I THINK THIS IS A BEGINNING.  I DON'T WANT YOU TO FEEL THAT IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE JUST ONE HEARING. OKAY, I GOT THAT OUT OF THE WAY DONE.  I HOPE THAT YOU SEE THIS AS THE OPENING FOR SOMETHING THAT WE CONTINUE TO WORK ON AND HOPEFULLY GET MORE RESULTS. I HEARD YOUR CONCERNS AND THE BARRIERS WITH THESE ARRESTS IN CENTRAL BOOKING AND I THINK THAT PIECE IS PART OF THE CONVERSATION WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND HOPEFULLY THE COMMISSIONER AS WELL BECAUSE OF IN TERMS OF THE PROTOCOLS AND THE CRITERIAS I THINK THERE'S MORE CONVERSATION TO BE HAD ABOUT LEGISLATION TO ADDRESS THE CRITERIA IS ON WITH THE BILL CLERKS AT MAGISTRATES . SO I'M HEARING THAT AND I'VE TAKEN THOROUGH NOTES AND MOVING FORWARD NOW THAT WE'VE HAD THE HEARING CONVERSATIONS WITH ME DIRECTLY NOT NOT MY DIRECTOR OF POLICY BUT ALL OF US AS A TEAM TO SEE HOW WE CAN BRING MORE PEOPLE THAT ARE OPEN TO THIS WORK SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO WORK TOGETHER.  I APPRECIATE YOU MALLORY, VERY, VERY, VERY MUCH AND I HOPE THAT THAT THAT COMES OFF IN TERMS OF HOW CAREFUL AND INTENTIONAL WE HAVE TO BE WITH WITH THIS PROCESS.  YES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. DEFINITELY.  I'LL KEEP IT VERY BRIEF. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR EVERYONE THAT'S HERE TODAY.  I DO HOPE THAT THIS OPENS CONVERSATION AND THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO TO FIND THE INFORMATION THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR A COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO HAVE AND FOR US TO HAVE AS ADVOCATES AND ORGANIZERS. I DO THINK THAT THERE HAS BEEN LIKE SOME SORT OF GROUNDING HERE TODAY WHAT IS HAPPENING AT CENTRAL BOOKING AND WITH THE PEOPLE THAT ARE BEING BROUGHT IN FROM MASS CASTS IS THAT THERE IS A QUESTION OF SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT, RIGHT? THERE'S A QUESTION OF ARE WE ENFORCING AND POLICING PEOPLE IN A CERTAIN GEOGRAPHY, TREATING THEM A DIFFERENT WAY, BRINGING THEM TO A JAIL, PROCESSING THEM IN A DIFFERENT MANNER THAN THEY DO IN IN A PRECINCT AND WHILE THERE HAS BEEN CONFLICTING INFORMATION I THINK IN TERMS OF PEOPLE'S EXPERIENCE OF WHAT WE KNOW ANECDOTALLY AND ALSO FROM SOME OF THE DATA THAT WE'VE GOTTEN BACK IS THAT THERE IS A DIFFERENCE IN BEING BOOKED AT NASHUA STREET JAIL THAN THERE IS AT A PRECINCT. FUNDAMENTALLY THERE'S JUST A DIFFERENCE WHAT THAT DIFFERENCE IS IN THE IMPACT OF IT. YES WE ARE WE ARE INTERESTED AND INVESTED IN FIGURING THAT OUT. THE QUESTION OF SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT AND THE WARRANT SWEEPS THAT HAVE BEEN HAPPENING ON MASS IN CARS AND THE WAYS THAT WE HAVE BEEN APPROACHING THIS THIS CONVERSATION AS A COMMUNITY AND AS THE CITY OF BOSTON THAT IS ALSO A CONVERSATION THAT WE'RE INVESTED IN BECAUSE CENTRAL BOOKING IS NOT AN ISSUE THAT'S I ISOLATED BY ITSELF, RIGHT. CENTRAL BOOKING IS PART OF THE CONVERSATION AROUND ENCAMPMENTS. WE'VE PART OF THE CONVERSATION AROUND CAMPING BAN ORDINANCE AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE HEARING ORDER THAT YOU HAVE SIGNED ON TO AROUND MASS AND CARS FOR THAT REASON BECAUSE WE WANT TO CONNECT THESE ISSUES. THESE ARE NOT ISOLATED ISSUES.  SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT POINT AND AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF THE OTHER PANELISTS WANT TO PROVIDE SOME CLOSING REMARKS . THANK YOU SO MUCH.  I IN CLOSING, I'VE HEARD SOME PROMISES TO SEND ME SOME INFORMATION THROUGH THE CHAIR I DO APPRECIATE THAT EVERYONE HERE ON THE PANEL ADVOCATES SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ALIKE HAVE BEEN VERY OPEN TO THE CONVERSATION. I MEAN I KNOW THAT YOU KNOW, IT'S TOO FOR THE SHERIFF TO MAKE FURTHER AND FURTHER DECISIONS ABOUT HOW AND HOW WE BUILD CONTINUITY TO THE CONVERSATION.  AND IT'S ALSO FOR THE COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER COX TO BE ABLE TO ALSO BE OPEN TO THAT CONVERSATION.  I HOPE THAT YOU HEARD THAT THIS IS A VERY HOLISTIC THING.  IT'S NOT JUST A POLICE OR SAFETY THING. IT'S DEFINITELY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC HEALTH, RIGHT? THERE'S THIS HOUSING COMPONENT. THERE'S THIS PUBLIC HEALTH COMMISSION COMPONENT IN TERMS OF SERVICE AND COLLABORATE AND COLLAB COLLABORATIONS IN SERVICES. THERE ARE INVESTMENTS THAT ARE LACKING IN TERMS OF BEST PRACTICES. WE'VE WE'VE REFERENCED LISBON,  PORTUGAL, WE'VE REFERENCED SO MANY OTHER TYPES OF PRACTICES IN CHICAGO AND OTHER PLACES THAT HAVE WORKED BUT HERE WE ARE NOT THERE, WE'RE NOT TRYING. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT HOLISTIC AND I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND THAT WE KNOW THAT YOU ARE NOT SOLELY RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS ISSUE BUT RATHER DO APPRECIATE THAT YOU CONTINUE TO BE OPEN TO THE CONVERSATIONS SUPER IMPORTANT AND CRUCIAL.  I HOPE TO SEE YOU AGAIN IN THE MORE WHOLE CONFERENCE A GROUP OF CONVERSATIONS AND HEARINGS SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE THIS WORK TOGETHER. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU MR CHAIR. YOU THANK YOU COUNSELOR. AT THIS TIME I WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED WITH PUBLIC TESTIMONY WHEN YOUR NAME IS CALLED PLEASE COME DOWN TO ONE OF THE TOP PODIUMS AND STATE YOUR NAME NEIGHBORHOOD AND ORGANIZATION AFFILIATION. PLEASE SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE AND PLEASE KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO 2 MINUTES STARTING WITH IN-PERSON SIGN UPS. ALEXIS, THANK YOU FOR GIVING YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO TESTIFY AND FOR HOLDING THIS HEARING. MY NAME IS ALEXIS LADD. I LIVE AT 1154 WASHINGTON STREET IN THE SOUTH END I'M SORRY THAT EDWIN DIDN'T STAY. HE'S MY REPRESENTATIVE. I'M ALSO SORRY THAT REPRESENTATIVE FITZGERALD DIDN'T STAY EITHER BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS AN OPINION THAT I WOULD HOPE THAT HE WOULD LISTEN TO BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S DIFFERENT FROM SOMETHING THAT HE'S BEEN HEARING FROM HIS CONSTITUENTS. I LIVE A BLOCK AWAY FROM PINE STREET IN OR I SHOULD ALSO SAY MY BACKGROUND I'M A HEALTH CARE COMMUNICATIONS EXECUTIVE. I VOLUNTEER WITH THE MASS BAIL FUND.  I'M ALSO A BOARD MEMBER OF ON THE RISE A DAY SHELTER FOR UNHOUSED AND TRANSGENDER AND NON-BINARY PEOPLE. I LIVE ONE BLOCK FROM PINE STREET IN BEFORE THE PANDEMIC I USED TO WORK OUT REGULARLY AND ONE MORNING WHEN I PUSHED THE BUILDING DOOR TO EXIT I COULDN'T OPEN THE DOOR.  THERE WAS SOMEBODY SLEEPING ON THE FRONT STOOP WHEN I THE INDIVIDUAL'S HAND WAS BANDAGED AND HIS HEAD WAS WRAPPED WITH GUYS WE SHARED A GOOD MORNING NOD AS WE PASSED EACH OTHER ON THE SIDEWALK AND I'D SEEN HIM BEFORE A FEW DAYS EARLIER ASLEEP ON A CURB WITH A CLEAN BLANKET DRAPED OVER HIM. HE WAS CLEARLY STRUGGLING BUT HE WAS ALSO CLEARLY GETTING SUPPORT FROM THE PINE STREET IN I MADE A DONATION LATER THAT DAY I WANT TO LIVE IN A SOCIETY AND A COMMUNITY THAT CARES ABOUT VULNERABLE PEOPLE.  SORRY MY NEIGHBORS AND I PEOPLE WITH ECONOMIC, RACIAL AND OTHER PRIVILEGES DON'T NEED TO BE PROTECTED FROM SEEING THE INEQUITY OF PEOPLE LIVING ON THE STREETS. IN FACT WE NEED TO SEE IT SO THAT WE CAN SUPPORT PROGRAMS THAT WORK TO GET PEOPLE HOUSED AND INTO TREATMENT RELYING ON AN UP TO AN AUTHORITARIAN, AN ANTIQUATED ANTIQUATED SYSTEM THAT LOCKS PEOPLE UP FOR BEING UNHOUSED, DEALING WITH ADDICTION OR HAVING MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES DOESN'T MAKE THESE PROBLEMS GO AWAY OR INEQUITY GO AWAY. IT EXACERBATES THE PROBLEMS DISAPPEARING PEOPLE INTO JAILS MAKES IT LESS SAFE FOR EVERYONE. WE'RE ON A SLIPPERY THAT CAN EASILY EXPAND EVEN TO THOSE WITH CURRENT PRIVILEGED PROTECTIONS.  WE MUST STOP THE UNCONSTITUTIONAL SUFFOLK COUNTY CENTRAL BOOKING PROCESS AND RESCIND THE CAMPING BOUND ORDINANCE. BOSTON HAS A CHOICE WE CAN SPEND MONEY AND RESOURCES ON A SYSTEM THAT WE KNOW DOESN'T WORK LOCKING PEOPLE UP OR WE CAN USE THE SAME FUNDING TO PROVIDE EVIDENCE BASED AND NON-COERCIVE SOLUTION TO HELP PEOPLE GET HOUSING AND TREATMENT.  JAILS SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED A HOUSING OR TREATMENT ALTERNATIVE ACCESS TO MEDICAL CARE. THEY'RE NOT HOSPITAL.  THEY'RE NOT HEALTH CARE SYSTEMS. THEY'RE NOT HOUSING THAT IS SAFE.  THEY'RE UNSAFE AND THEY'RE EXPENSIVE. I RESPECTFULLY ASK THE CITY COUNCIL TO DO EVERYTHING IN YOUR POWER TO END THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN PPD AND 60 THAT ALLOWS PEOPLE TO BE LOCKED UP WITHOUT DUE PROCESS OR PROTECTIONS. I ALSO RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU DO EVERYTHING IN YOUR POWER TO RESCIND THE CAMPING BAN ORDINANCE AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER AND FOR ORGANIZING ALL OF THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING TO HEAR THIS INFORMATION . THANK YOU, ALEXIS. WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE WITH THE IN-PERSON TESTIMONIES AGAIN THIS 2 MINUTES I THINK NEXT UP WE HAVE CLARE HALL AND THEN DANNY ALSO AND THEN WE HAVE DANNY SANTANA. IF YOU WANT TO ALSO COME DOWN AND I HOPE THAT I WILL HAVE GEORGE AS WELL.  HEY, MY NAME'S KHALIL, CURRENTLY LIVE IN DISTRICT SIX. I'M HERE TO DEMAND THAT WE END THE CENTRAL BOOKING A NASHUA STREET JAIL. WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE IS EXTREMELY DEHUMANIZING.  I'M NOT SURE WHAT HER NAME WAS BUT THE LADY BEFORE ME WHAT SHE SAID WAS REALLY HEARTFELT AND I FEEL THAT 100% YOU CAN'T JUST LOCK UP PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE HOUSING BECAUSE THEY HAVE DRUG ADDICTIONS. IT'S REALLY INHUMANE AND I MEAN I'M SURE YOU ALL HAVE HEARD FROM ME BEFORE HOW I FEEL ABOUT HOUSING AND HOW I FEEL ABOUT JUST THE CASTLE SYSTEM IN GENERAL.  BUT IT DOESN'T YOU DON'T NEED TO NOT BELIEVE IN THE CASTLE SYSTEM TO SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE. SHOULDN'T BE HAPPENING.  PEOPLE ARE DYING. PEOPLE ARE BEING NEGLECTED. IMAGINE ONE OF YOUR LOVED ONES WAS ARRESTED AND YOU HAD NO IDEA WHERE THEY WERE AND BECAUSE THE PAPERWORK IS NOT BEING PASSED OVER WHEN PEOPLE ARE GOING TO CENTRAL AND THINGS ARE HAPPENING PROPERLY AND GOING THROUGH THE PROPER CHANNELS OR IMAGINE YOUR LOVED ONE DIES IN CENTRAL BOOKING BECAUSE THEY WERE MEDICALLY NEGLECTED AC SD CUSTODY BECAUSE THE MEDICAL DIRECTOR ONLY WORKS MONDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY. THERE ARE PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO IMAGINE THIS BECAUSE THIS IS THEIR REALITY.  THIS HAS HAPPENED TO PEOPLE'S LOVED ONES CENTRAL BOOKING DOES NOT KEEP PEOPLE SAFE. IT'S NOT BENEFICIAL. PLEASE AND THANK YOU.  THANK YOU.  DANNY SANTANA FOLLOWED BY UNFORTUNATELY A LOT OF . GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT I.  I PERSONALLY FEEL THAT THIS VOTE IS DISRESPECTFUL THAT THERE IS NO OTHER CITY COUNCIL'S IN THIS ROOM SEEING THAT SOME OF US TOOK THE TIME OF OUR DAY TO BE HERE SINCE 2:00. LISTENING PATIENTLY TO EVERYBODY AND NOW THAT IS OUR TIME TO TESTIFY. THERE'S NOBODY HERE TO LISTEN TO TEST OF OUR TESTIMONY THAT IS VOTE AND DISRESPECTFUL AND I AM APPLIED AGAINST THAT. OKAY.  ANOTHER THING THERE'S TWO THINGS TO THIS STORY OVER HERE. OKAY?  JAILS AREN'T MEANT TO BE MEDICAL FACILITIES.  THE ONLY MEDICAL ATTENTION THAT THEY REALLY TAKE CARE OF A LIFE AND DEATH SITUATION IS IN JAIL. THEY ARE NOT EQUIPPED TO HAVE MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES THAT ARE NEEDED TO BE PROVIDED FOR PEOPLE WHO SUFFER FROM ADDICTION. I'M A RESIDENT FROM MASS AND CASS. I WAS OUT THERE.  I'M ALSO AN ADDICT OF RECOVERY. I GOT MY OWN PROGRAM BUT I AM SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE OF THE NETWORK OF THE PEOPLE I HAVE AROUND ME WHO ENSURE THAT I DON'T FALL BACK ON THAT CRACK PIPE TO ENSURE THAT THEY DON'T FALL BACK A MASS AT A LOT OF OUR PEOPLE DON'T HAVE THAT. NOW INSTEAD OF INCARCERATING PEOPLE WHO HAVE ADDICTIONS AND THESE TYPE OF PROBLEMS ON THESE OPEN UNITS IN JAIL, THEY SHOULD BE TURNING THESE UNITS INTO MILITARY BOOT CAMPS FOR THESE YOUNG GUYS, THESE YOUNG GANG MEMBERS OUT THERE. THEY ALL WANT TO BE FIGHTING.  THEY DON'T KNOW NOTHING ABOUT BEING A REAL PATRIOT. SO THAT'S WHAT THEY SHOULD BE USING THOSE UNITS FOR NOT PEOPLE WHO ARE SUFFERING FROM ADDICTION AND NEED HELP AND DON'T HAVE HOUSING AND ARE BEING NIGHT BECAUSE THEY'RE POOR AND HOMELESS AND ARE SUFFERING FROM AN ADDICTION.  THE JAILS ARE NOT A BAD THING. THEY ARE A GOOD THING FOR CERTAIN THINGS BECAUSE THEY ARE PEOPLE THEY NEED TO GET OVER CRIMINALS. THEY NEED TO BE BEHIND THE WALLS. BUT THE MAJORITY OF OUR PEOPLE DON'T NEED TO BE LABELED LIKE THAT. WE DON'T KNOW AND THE JAILS DON'T PROVIDE MENTAL HEALTH.  THEY DO NOT UNLESS YOU ARE THREATENING TO COMMIT SUICIDE AND GET BACK AT THAT. THAT IS THE ONLY TIME YOU'RE GOING TO TALK TO A MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONAL INSIDE ANY INCARCERATION. THEY DON'T PROVIDE THAT. THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY THEREFORE YES, THEY PROVIDE METHADONE, SUBOXONE.  IT'S BECAUSE IT'S A NECESSITY FOR ADDICTS WHO NEED THAT WHO WILL PHYSICALLY HAVE A PHYSICAL ISSUE IF THEY DON'T RECEIVE THAT SO THAT YES, THEY DO PROVIDE THAT BUT AS A WHOLE TO TALK ABOUT THAT JAIL IS A SOLUTION FOR INDIVIDUALS THAT SUFFER FROM ISSUES THAT I'VE BEEN COVERING KNOW THAT IS NOT A FACT. IT IS NOT A FACT. I'M HERE ABLE TO SAY WHAT I'M SAYING BECAUSE I'VE HAD GOOD ADVOCATE GATES I'VE HAD A GOOD NETWORK, A SUPPORT NETWORK DON'T THE MAJORITY OF THE INDIVIDUALS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HAVE NEVER HAD SUCH A THING?  JAIL IS NOT THE SOLUTION. SEXUAL BOOKING DOESN'T NEED MORE OFFICERS IN THE STREETS. THAT'S A CORRECT INFORMATION BECAUSE IT'S THE SAME PROCESS. YOU'RE JUST CHANGING THE PLACE BECAUSE IT'S IN A PROCEDURE THAT WHEN YOU GET ARRESTED BY AN OFFICER THE OFFICER IS BRINGING YOU TO THE JAIL HAS TO BE THE OFFICER. THEY WRITE YOUR REPORT.  IS THAT NOT CORRECT? THAT OFFICER HAS TO STAY IN THE PRECINCT IF THAT REPORT IS WRITTEN. SO WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE FROM CHANGING IT FROM THE FROM THE POLICE STATION TO NECESSARY THIS FURTHER? HOW IS THAT PUT MORE OFFICERS IN DISTRICT? THAT DOESN'T NO SENSE. THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU MR SANTANA AND APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU DO AND THE PROGRAM THAT YOU RUN. NEXT UP WE HAVE GEORGE LEE AND THEN WE WILL THEN HEAD OVER TO VIRTUAL TESTIMONY BY CHRISTINE MITCHELL.  HELLO, MY NAME IS GEORGE LEE, AN ORGANIZER WITH YOUTH JUSTICE AND POWER UNION IN DORCHESTER AND I WANT TO ADVOCATE THAT WE HAVE A FUNDAMENTAL SHIFT IN HOW WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS AND THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY INVESTING IN REAL SOLUTIONS.  CENTRAL BOOKING IS NOT A SOLUTION. IT'S HARMFUL AND IT NEEDS TO BE SHUT DOWN NOT JUST TWEAKED TO LOOK MORE PRETTY. SO THIS MONTH ABSOLUTELY WE SHOULD GET ALL THE DATA THAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR IT SHAMEFUL HOW MUCH DATA HAS NOT BEEN PROVIDED AND ABSOLUTELY WE NEED AND WE NEED TO STOP HOW PEOPLE ARE BEING DENIED BAIL. CLEARLY SOMETHING IS WRONG WHEN IT'S JUST LESS THAN FIVE PEOPLE WHO'VE GONE TO BAIL. SO YEAH, WE NEED TO FIX THAT THIS MONTH BUT NEXT MONTH WE NEED TO SHUT IT DOWN.  I FIND IT A LITTLE LAUGHABLE THE DESCRIPTIONS OF HOW COZY CENTRAL BOOKING IS COMPARED TO POLICE STATIONS. I DON'T SEE ANYONE LEAVING FIVE STAR REVIEWS FOR NATIONAL STREET JAIL. IT IS NOT AND I IN THE DESCRIPTION THAT IT'S A BETTER PLACE FOR PEOPLE. THE BEST PLACE FOR PEOPLE IS NOT JAIL THE BEST PLACE FOR PEOPLE IS A SAFE HOME. IT'S BEING IN THE COMMUNITY WHERE THEY CAN GET RESOURCES, WHERE THEY CAN GET VOLUNTARY TREATMENT.  SO STOP THE NICE WALLPAPER,  TALK LIKE YOU'RE DISTRACTING FROM THE REAL ISSUE BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY THE PROBLEM WITH JAIL IT'S BEEN SICKENING HAVING TO GO PEOPLE THERE WHILE THEY'RE WAITING TO GET ARRAIGNED OR THEY'RE ARRAIGNED IN THEY'RE WAITING FOR TRIAL AND THEY'RE ROTTING THERE. THAT'S THE WAY THE SYSTEM IS DESIGNED IS TO PRESSURE PEOPLE TO TAKE PLEAS THAT THEY SHOULDN'T TAKE BECAUSE THEY CAN'T MAKE BAIL BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A FRIEND IN THE SUBURBS OF $500. PEOPLE ARE POOR AND THEY'RE BEING EXPLOITED AND JUST SENT DOWN DOWNWARD SPIRAL.  SO TO THE CITY COUNCIL I URGE ALL I'M TRYING NOT TO SWEAR THEY SCREWED THIS UP THE WAY THEY ROLLED THIS OUT. THEY RUSHED IT. IT WAS ILLEGAL. IT'S BROKEN, IT'S HURTING PEOPLE. IT'S EXPANDING. WAS GETTING ARRESTED.  THE POINT ISN'T TO SAY OH, YOU ALL MADE ALL THESE MISTAKES. NOW LET'S MAKE IT BETTER.  IT NEEDS TO BE STOPPED COMPLETELY SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY INVEST IN REAL SOLUTIONS. IT'S IT'S IT'S NOT SURPRISING BUT IT'S TERRIBLE HOW EASY IT IS TO GIVE RESOURCES TO POLICING AND JAILS.  THERE WAS I THINK 40,000 OVERTIME HOURS IN 2020 AMMONIA GAS AND MASSAGE FOR POLICE OFFICERS WHICH IS AT LEAST TWO AND A HALF MILLION.  AND SURPRISINGLY THE CITY IS NOT WILLING TO PUT TWO AND A HALF MILLION IN FOR A MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS RESPONSE.  IT TOOK SOME OF THE COUNCILORS IN THIS BODY HAD TO DRAG SOME OF THE REST OF THE COUNCILORS KICKING SCREAMING OVER THE FINISH LINE TO GET A FEW SMALL THINGS PASSED LIKE $1,000,000 FOR RENTAL SUBSIDIES WHEN WE COULD HAVE HAD MORE. THAT WAS SHAMEFUL.  LIKE THOSE ARE THE RESOURCES THAT ACTUALLY HELP BECAUSE I FORGET WHO HAS SAID SET IT ALL WORKING ON REQUESTS FOR MORE POLICE. WE HEAR REQUESTS FOR MORE HOUSING. WE GO LOOK AT THE PARTICIPATORY BUDGETING WEBSITE RIGHT AND ALL THE PEOPLE ASKING FOR HOUSING. RIGHT. WE'VE HEARD REQUESTS FOR MENTAL HEALTH RESPONSE. WE'VE HEARD REQUESTS FOR YOUNG PEOPLE TO GET RESOURCES SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR SOMEONE'S AIRBNB OR GO ON AT 7 A.M. EVERY DAY. THAT'S TO SUBMIT A LOTTERY REQUEST FOR A YOUNG PERSON TO GET HOUSING SO THEY DON'T END UP GETTING ARRESTED BY POLICE FOR NOT HAVING A PLACE TO BE. SO JUST UNDERSCORING THAT WE NEED TO END AND CENTRAL BOOKING AND FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE HOW WE'RE LOOKING AT THINGS TO END THE CAMPING ORDINANCE WHICH CRIMINALIZES PEOPLE FOR JUST TRYING TO SURVIVE AND FOCUS ON REAL SOLUTIONS LIKE LOW THRESHOLD HOUSEHOLD LOAD, LOW THRESHOLD HOUSING VOLUNTEER TREATMENT ALL THE THINGS THAT FOR SOME REASON THE CITY REFUSES TO FUND WHILE THE SHERIFFS AND POLICE DEPARTMENTS AND JAILS JUST KEEP GETTING MORE MONEY AND RESOURCES AND GETTING AWAY WITH THIS SCANDALOUS ILLEGAL CRIMINALIZATION THAT THAT KEEPS ON ROLLING.  THANK YOU, GEORGE. NEXT UP WE HAVE ON ZOOM.  CHRISTINE MITCHELL, THANK YOU SO FOR WAITING.  I THANK YOU FOR STICKING AROUND TO HEAR ME . MY NAME IS DR. CHRISTINE MITCHELL. I AM A RESIDENT OF EVERETT. I'M A GRADUATE OF HARVARD T.H. CHAN SCHOOL OF PUBLIC HEALTH IN BOSTON AND I'M A RESEARCHER ON THE HEALTH IMPACTS OF POLICING AND INCARCERATION AT HUMAN IMPACT PARTNERS, WHICH IS A PUBLIC HEALTH NONPROFIT. I'M TESTIFYING TODAY FOR AN END TO CENTRAL BOOKING AND NASHUA STREET JAIL. SO YOU'VE HEARD TODAY THAT ESTABLISHING A REGIONAL LOCKUP FACILITY CAN PROVIDE ACCESS TO CARE BUT INCARCERATION SHOULD NOT AND CANNOT BE PEOPLE'S PRIMARY POINT OF ACCESS TO NEEDED CARE AND TREATMENT. INDEED, IT OFTEN DESTROYS SOMEONE'S LIFE EVEN MORE. IN 2019 I WORKED ON A NATIONAL STUDY REVIEWING THE MYRIAD WAYS THAT PRETRIAL INCARCERATION HARMS HEALTH. WE FOUND THAT EVEN A SINGLE DAY IN JAIL CAN DO IMMENSE AND LONG LASTING HARM TO SOMEONE'S LIFE . HERE'S HOW PRETRIAL INCARCERATION PREDICTS JOB ISSUES, LOSS OF EMPLOYMENT AND BECOMING UNHOUSED AFTER SOMEONE LOSES THEIR HOUSING IT CAN BE HARD TO GET IT BACK WITH AN ARREST RECORD. INCARCERATION CAN LEAD TO INTERRUPTION OF NEEDED MEDICAL CARE AND PRESCRIPTIONS AND THE RISK OF FATAL OVERDOSE IS 120 TIMES HIGHER AMONG PEOPLE RECENTLY RELEASED FROM JAIL.  WE KNOW THAT PEOPLE AREN'T RECEIVING THE CARE THEY NEED WHILE INCARCERATED AND THIS PART IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT.  NOT ONLY ARE JAILS FAILING TO PROVIDE THE TREATMENT PEOPLE NEED.  THEY INHERENTLY CAN NOT HURT RURAL FACILITIES BY VIRTUE OF THEIR PUNITIVE NATURE CANNOT PATIENT RIGHTS REQUIREMENTS FOR CARE SETTINGS LIKE THE ABILITY TO ASSERT CHOICE AND TREATMENT WITHOUT FEAR OF RETALIATION.  INSTEAD THE CITY COULD BE INVESTING IN COMMUNITY BASED CARE AND SERVICES, COMMUNITY BASED SUBSTANCE USE TREATMENT AND MENTAL HEALTH CARE NOT ONLY SAVES MONEY BUT ALSO DECREASES STIGMA AND IMPROVES HEALTH OUTCOMES. THERE'S A VAST BODY OF RESEARCH THAT SHOWS THAT INVESTMENTS AND LIKE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT CANCER THE SOCIAL DETERMINANTS OF HEALTH, THINGS LIKE HOUSING, REENTRY SERVICES, EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES, TRANSPORTATION, NON CARCERAL ALTERNATIVES FOR ACCOUNTABILITY FOR HARM. ALL OF THOSE THINGS CAN IMPROVE HEALTH OUTCOMES AND PREVENT HARM FROM OCCURRING IN THE FIRST PLACE. SO I'M ASKING YOU HERE TODAY FOR THE SAKE OF PUBLIC HEALTH TO PLEASE USE YOUR POWER TO END THE DETENTION AGREEMENT BETWEEN BPD AND THE SUFFOLK COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT TO END THE ENCAMPMENT BAN ORDINANCE THAT'S FUNNELING MORE PEOPLE INTO JAIL AND TO INVEST IN THE COMMUNITY BASED TREATMENT THAT WILL TRULY PROVIDE CARE. THANK YOU.  THANK YOU SO MUCH, DR. MITCHELL . AND THANK YOU TO OUR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC FOR YOUR TESTIMONY.  I ALSO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED WRITTEN TESTIMONY FROM THREE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. THAT TESTIMONY IS AVAILABLE IN THE OFFICIAL RECORDS FOR THIS HEARING AND MY COLLEAGUES CAN ACCESS IT IN THE FOLDER SHARED BY SEVERAL STAFF. AT THIS TIME I DO WANT TO RECOGNIZE COUNCILOR FOR DENNIS ANDERSON.  THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR THIS CONVERSATION. I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS THE ADVOCATES AND SAY THAT JACOB MY DIRECTOR OF POLICY WILL PUT TOGETHER SOME METRICS JUST SO THAT WE CAN SORT OF MONITOR LIKE THE ANSWERS THAT WERE GIVEN TODAY WITH THE INFORMATION THAT'S BEING SENT.  WHAT'S MISSING? WHAT WASN'T ANSWERED? WHAT WAS ANSWERED AND THEN A MEETING TO FOLLOW WITH MY OFFICE AND OTHER ADVOCATES. WE CAN TALK ABOUT OUR NEXT STEPS. DO WE NEED TO INCLUDE DO WE NEED TO GO TO COMMUNITY FIRST? OUR MEETING WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, OUR MEETING WITH BPD. DO WE NEED TO DO A TOUR? I'M HAPPY TO TAKE YOU ALONG WITH ME AS WELL. LET'S ANSWER THE QUESTIONS. LET'S MONITOR THIS THING CLOSELY AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GETTING OUR QUESTIONS ANSWERED ONCE WE GET TO A PLACE AND WITH OUR STRATEGY OF OUR NEXT STEP I THINK THEN IS TALKING ABOUT LEGISLATION AND HOW WE MOVE FORWARD. BUT I'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT I CLOSE THAT WAY SO WE KNOW THAT THERE IS A SUBSIDY AS A NEXT STEP HERE. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? NODDING. GREAT. AND IN TERMS OF THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR YOU TO COME. HAPPY RETIREMENT. I HOPE THAT YOU KNOW NOW MAYBE IT'S YOU'RE GOING TO VOLUNTEER TOO FOR POLICE REFORM.  YOU KNOW, WISHFUL THINKING MAYBE. YOU'VE EVOLVED.  SO TRULY I LOOK FORWARD TO CONTRIBUTING IN CHANGING THIS IN THIS SOCIETAL CONSTRUCT.  I APPRECIATE THAT. WE'LL TAKE WHATEVER WE CAN GET WHATEVER EFFORTS THAT GETS US TO BE INVOLVED COMMUNITY AND LOOK FORWARD TO THE CONVERSATION I AM GOING TO REACH OUT HOPEFULLY FOR US TO MEET. THANK YOU.  THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. THANK YOU. I WANT I WANT TO THANK ALL OF OUR PANELISTS, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AND OTHER ATTENDEES AND MY COLLEAGUES FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION IN TODAY'S HEARING.  I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE MY BACKGROUND IS IN CIVIC ORGANIZING AND I'M STILL AN ORGANIZER AT HEART SO I WANT TO EXTEND MY ANGST APPRECIATION TO ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC FOR YOUR ENGAGEMENT AND YOUR PARTICIPATION TODAY, INCLUDING THOSE WHO HAVE TESTIFIED SO FAR TODAY PROVIDED WRITTEN TESTIMONY, CONTACTED MY OFFICE AND MY COLLEAGUES OR I WATCHING TODAY'S HEARING. I ALSO JUST WANT TO GIVE A SPECIAL THANK YOU TO LEAD SPONSOR CARLA FERNANDEZ ANDERSON AS WELL AS OUR STAFF MEMBER JACOB AND THEN MY STAFF MEMBER MATTHEW FOR ALL THE WORK YOU PUT IN TO MAKE TODAY'S HEARING SUCCESSFUL. WITH THAT THIS HEARING ON DOCKET NUMBER 0354 IS ADJOURNED. THANK YOU. THAN