MANAGE OUR VENDORS ON OUR CONTRACTS WITH THE DIFFERENT PEOPLE THAT PROVIDE SERVICES. IT SUPPORTS THE OPERATIONS OF SO MANY DEPARTMENTS AND WE HAVE A LARGE AND COMPLEX CITY AND AND IT'S A CITY THAT'S CHANGING THE WAY THAT IT WORKS. SO AS WE CONTINUE TO BUILD BETTER EXPERIENCES FOR BOTH THE CONSTITUENTS AND FOR THE WORK FORCE, WE CONTINUE TO RELY ON TECHNOLOGY TO BUILD BETTER EXPERIENCES TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE A GROWING NUMBER OF PEOPLE AND A GROWING NUMBER OF A DIVERSE GROUP OF PEOPLE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO ACCESS US WITH DIFFERENT LEVELS OF PROFICIENCY IN ENGLISH WITH PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES. AND SO WE ARE IN THE BUSINESS OF SUPPORTING A LOT OF DEPARTMENTS AND AGENCIES AND TRYING TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS WORK AT SCALE TO MAKE SURE THAT AS WE BUILD SOME OF THESE SYSTEMS THAT WE CAN DO IT IN A WAY THAT IS SECURE AS WELL. WE PRECISELY BECAUSE WE BECOME DEPENDENT AND IN NEED OF THIS TECHNOLOGY, WE NEED TO BUILD IT IN A WAY THAT IS SECURE, IN A WAY THAT IS THOUGHTFUL, IN A WAY IN WHICH WE MAKE SURE THAT THE THE INVESTMENTS THAT WE MAKE ON ONE SYSTEM CAN SUPPORT A NEED FURTHER DOWN THE LINE. AND I'M JUST THAT'S AN OPENING STATEMENT TO SAY THAT I'M REALLY GRATEFUL FOR THE SUPPORT THAT WE'VE HAD OBVIOUSLY FROM MAYOR WU BUT ALSO FROM THE COUNCIL AND MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THE RESOURCES TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS AS A IT IS WE WORK AND WE SEE THE CITY AT A REALLY LARGE SCALE BECAUSE WE SUPPORT TO SOME EXTENT EVEN A LOT OF OUR INDEPENDENT AGENCIES. WE SUPPORT VPD WHICH WILL TRANSITION TO THE CITY PLANNING DEPARTMENT BUT WE WORK WITH BPA, WITH PHC, WITH UM WITH THE SCHOOLS, WITH THE LIBRARIES,  WITH WITH EVERYBODY. SO A LOT OF TIMES WE YOU KNOW WE WE WORK CLOSELY WITH THESE DEPARTMENTS AND AGENCIES TO DELIVER THE PROJECTS AND THE WORK THAT WE DO BUT WE TRULY OPERATED A REALLY LARGE SCALE LIKE OVER 20,000 USERS THAT SIGN IN THROUGH ACCESS BOSTON WE HAVE 11 MILLION VISITORS TO BOSTON THAT GAVE EVERY YEAR WE SUPPORT OVER 350 BUILDINGS CONNECTED THROUGH OUR OPTIC NETWORK.  SO WE'RE A 24 SEVEN DEPARTMENT THE DEPARTMENT THAT SUPPORTS REALLY EVERYONE AND EVERY CONSTITUENT IN SOME WAY OR ANOTHER. SO WE'RE GRATEFUL TO BE ABLE TO SHARE WITH YOU. I THINK THAT GOING INTO THE PRESENTATION WE MOSTLY WANTED TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON WHAT WE PRESENTED THE LAST TIME HERE AND OBVIOUSLY HAPPY TO TAKE YOUR YOUR QUESTIONS AND THE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES.  UM, SO AGAIN INITIALLY WHEN WE HAD THE CONVERSATION IN OCTOBER WE STARTED TO UNDERSTAND UM AND I KNOW THAT OUR PARTNERS IN THE BOSTON TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT AND THE STREET'S CABINET THEY MIGHT JOIN US IN A LITTLE BIT BUT AT THE SO ANY COORDINATE IN BETWEEN IS LIKE OUR PART THIS MOST OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO SHARE WITH YOU IS POSSIBLE AND THANKS TO OUR PARTNERS SO IT'S WHATEVER WIN AND SUCCESS IS DEFINITELY A SHARED SUCCESS. BUT WE HAVE SOME GOOD PROGRESS TO SHARE WITH YOU. SO WHEN WE SPOKE LAST WE WERE TALKING ABOUT A SITUATION WHERE THE CITY DIDN'T HAVE A DIGITAL REPRESENTATION, DIDN'T HAVE A COLLECTION OF THE ASSETS THAT HELP MANAGE THE RIGHT OF WAY ARE STREET SIGNS OR STREET LIGHTS.  THERE'S SOME SPARSE COLLECTION ABOUT SOME ITEMS LIKE TREES BUT REALLY WE WERE LACKING KIND OF THESE LIKE HOLISTIC COLLECTION AND SOME OF THE DEPARTMENTS THAT WE CONTINUE TO HAVE THIS BUT SOME OF THE DEPARTMENTS IN PARTICULAR ARE INTERESTED IN IN IN PARKING DID NOT HAVE SOME OF THE ASSETS AND THE WORK THAT THEY DO TO SUPPORT THOSE ASSETS DIGITIZED AND AS WE SAID THE WORK THAT WE DO IS PART OF THIS LONGER ROAD MAP. NOTHING GETS SOLVED OVERNIGHT BUT IT IS PART OF THIS INCREMENTAL WORK THAT WE DO TO CHANGE THE WAY THAT WE WORK BUT ALSO TO HELP SOLVE OTHER PROBLEMS SO UM IT IS EXCITING TO REPORT THAT I THINK THAT WHEN WE MET IN OCTOBER WE SAID THAT WE WOULD HAVE OUR ASSETS DIGITIZED AND THE WORKFLOWS IN BTD DIGITIZED USING CARTOGRAPHY BY JUNE OF 2024 AND I THINK WE CAN SAY THAT WE HAVE EXCEEDED THE GOAL AND WE ARE COMMITTED HAS BEEN USING CARTOGRAPHY WHICH IS THIS NEW WORK ORDER AND ASSET MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. SO WHENEVER THE SIGN SHOP IS REPLACING ASSIGNED THEY'RE USING THIS ELECTRONIC SYSTEMS TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT THE WORK ORDER GOT COMPLETED THAT WE'RE TAKING A PICTURE AND THAT WE'RE ABLE TO REGISTER THAT THE WORK WAS DONE AND NOW WE HAVE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT SIGN THAT IS IN OPERATION WHICH HELPS US KEEP BEING BETTER STEWARDS. AND AGAIN, I WOULD JUST SAY THIS WORK WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE. OUR WORK IS TO SUPPORT BEHIND THE SCENES. BUT AMY AND THE PEOPLE AT B.T. HAVE BEEN JUST SUPER HEROES IN IMPLEMENTING AND CHANGING THE WAY THAT THEY WORK. BEING BRINGING TABLETS AND IPADS TO THE FIELD AND REALLY INTEGRATING THE SEVEN THIS FEEDS INTO WORK THAT YOU HAVE SUPPORTED THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS OF US BEING ABLE TO MODERNIZE OUR CONSTITUENT SERVICES TECHNOLOGY STACK. THE WORK THAT JAY GREENSPAN WHO'S OUR SENIOR DIRECTOR OF CONSTITUENT SERVICES PRODUCTS UNDER THE GUIDANCE OF CHIEF DIGITAL OFFICER JULIE GUTIERREZ THIS IS A PIECE OF THAT BUT WE'RE AHEAD.  WE'RE AHEAD OF SCHEDULE AND I DON'T WANT TO UNDERESTIMATE HOW MUCH WORK IT TOOK TO GET THERE. THE OTHER GREAT ACCOMPLISHMENT THAT WE'RE A LITTLE BIT AHEAD OF SCHEDULE WITH IS THANKS TO SUPPORT FROM THE BUDGET OFFICE AND FROM YOU ALL WE'RE ABLE TO DIGITIZE. I'M GOING TO READ OFF THE NUMBERS AND I HAVE THE IMPRESSION MY HEAD BUT IT'S ABOUT 300,000 THAT WE HAVE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY AND WE HAVE THEM IN GIS REPRESENTED WITH A PICTURE. AND THE GOOD THING IS AS OF THIS MEETING AS WELL AND THANKS TO OUR DATA TEAM YOU CAN LOOK THIS DATA UP IN OUR OPEN DATA PORTAL WE GO TO DATA THAT BOSTON THAT GOVT OF YOU SEARCH FOR CARTOGRAPHY SIGNS YOU CAN SEE THE DATASET THAT HAS ALL OF THE SIGNS AND THERE'S A LINK THAT IF YOU CLICK ON IT YOU CAN GO TO A VIEW A PICTURE OF THE ACID. WE PARTNERED WITH A COMPANY CALLED CYCLING MEDIA THAT ALSO FILTERS OUT ANY PEOPLE'S FACES AND LICENSE PLATES AND STUFF SO THERE'S A PRIVACY FILTER BUT AGAIN AHEAD OF SCHEDULE AND TYING THE TWO TOGETHER FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER WERE ABLE TO RELATE THE WORK THAT IS BEING DONE WITH THE ASSETS. SO IF WE HAVE TO GO AND REPLACE ASSIGNED FIVE TIMES WE KNOW THAT WE'VE REPLACED THAT SIGN FIVE TIMES AS OPPOSED TO JUST ISSUING WORK WHICH HELPS US BE BETTER IN EFFICIENCY AND EFFECTIVENESS AS WE START THINKING ABOUT LIKE THE TOTAL COST OF OWNERSHIP OF OUR ASSETS WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT OBVIOUSLY THE PEOPLE AND THE ENGINEERING SIDE OF THINGS ALSO REALLY CARE ABOUT.  SO LOTS OF REALLY GREAT PROGRESS TO BUILD SO NOW THAT WE'VE DONE SOME OF THIS WORK AND AGAIN WE SHARED I KNOW THAT FROM THE COUNCIL THERE'S A LOT OF INTEREST IN BEING ABLE TO THINK ABOUT WHAT'S THE FUTURE EXPERIENCE AND STARTING TO WE'RE MAKING INCREMENTAL PROGRESS.  WE KNOW THAT THERE'S WORK TO BE DONE PARTICULARLY WHEN IT COMES TO DIGITIZING THE THE REGULATIONS ON THE RIGHT OF WAY . WE HAVE A RECORD OF WHERE THERE'S PARKING RESTRICTIONS BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION HOUR ON WHAT TYPE OF RESTRICTION IS IN PLACE. YOU KNOW, THERE'S RESIDENTIAL PARKING RESTRICTIONS. THERE'S NO TOW ZONES.  THERE'S RESTRICTIONS BASED ON SNOW PLOWING AND STREET CLEANING AND ALL THESE THINGS. SO WE WE KNOW THAT THERE'S A RESTRICTION WE BUT WE WILL START WORKING ON FIGURING OUT HOW TO EXTRACT THAT INFORMATION FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD AND BEING ABLE TO START BUILDING BETTER INFORMATION SYSTEMS SO THAT OUR CONSTITUENTS CAN KNOW WHERE DO WE HAVE PARKING, WHAT NOT TO SUPPORT THE WORK THAT COMMISSIONER NICK GOV HAD SHARED LAST TIME ABOUT LIKE RETHINKING THE REGULATIONS WE CAN'T DO THAT IF WE DON'T HAVE THE DATA TO DO IT AND WE'RE GETTING CLOSE. WE'RE MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION . UM STILL WORK TO BE DONE BUT THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF THE OF THE PICTURES THAT WE'VE COLLECTED WITH OUR PARTNERS LIKE THE MEDIA THAT DROVE ALL ACROSS THE CITY AND COLLECTED THAT INFORMATION.  UM. SANTE SORRY SERGEANT TROUT YOU WOULD YOU OR KIRBY ABLE TO SHARE THAT PRESENTATION SO THAT SOME OF OUR COLLEAGUES CAN SEE THAT? CAN YOU SHARE THAT WITH ME REALLY QUICKLY YET I CAN SHARE AMONGST OUR COLLEAGUES. YES, ABSOLUTELY. I THINK THAT WE SHARED WITH THIS STUFF BEFORE SHARED WITH THE WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBERS. SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU COURTESY. ABSOLUTELY.  UM, SO AGAIN, WHAT IS SOME OF THE ONGOING WORK UM, WE NEED TO DO BUT WHEN IT COMES TO DIGITIZING PARKING REGULATIONS AND DOING THIS WORK AGAIN CONTINUE TO LEVERAGE THE INVESTMENT THAT WE'VE MADE IN TRYING TO EXTRACT INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT THE RESTRICTIONS ACTUALLY SAY SO THAT WE CAN THEN TIE BACK WITH THE PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING THE POLICY WORK AND RE-EMPHASIZE ONE MORE TIME THIS IS NOT JUST DO IT THIS IS WORKING SUPPORTING THE WORK THAT BTD AND THE STREETS CABINET DOES AND WE'RE THERE JUST TO TRY TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR THEM, MAKE SURE THE NEITHER THE DEVICES NOR THE DATA NOR THE TECHNICAL COMPONENTS ARE THE BARRIER BUT TO ENABLE THEM TO MOVE FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD SO WE KEEP WORKING TOGETHER TO TRY TO BE ABLE TO EXTRACT THAT INFORMATION AND AGAIN CONTINUE TO BUILD THE CAPACITY TO DO USER EXPERIENCE RESEARCH TO ENGAGE WITH THE PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE USING THESE TOOLS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT DID THEY NEED, HOW WOULD THEY HOW WOULD THEY WANT TO EXPERIENCE THE HOW TO TO CONSUME THAT INFORMATION IN A WAY THAT'S ACCESSIBLE? UM, SO IF I TRIED TO SO AGAIN WE WANT TO MAKE IT FOREMOST BUILD GREAT EXPERIENCES FOR OUR CONSTITUENTS THE THE WORK OF INTERACTING WITH THE CITY IS EASY STREAMLINED THAT WE ARE BEING EFFECTIVE IN THE WAY THAT WE'RE LEVERAGING THE DATA TO BE MORE EFFECTIVE IN THE WAY THAT WE RUN BUT RUN A LARGE ORGANIZATION YOU ALL ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING TOUGH DECISIONS WHEN BUDGET TIME COMES BY SO MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE SUPPORTING BOTH THE OPERATIONS AND THE DECISIONS AROUND THESE THINGS THAT AGAIN THAT WE CONTINUE TO HELP IMPROVE AND SUPPORT THE WORK BUT THE BIG TRANSFORMATIONAL WORK AND THE REGULATORY CHANGES THAT YOU GUYS ARE INTERESTED BUT MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THE RIGHT INFORMATION TO DO THAT AND ENABLED THE NEXT GENERATION OF WORK. AND JUST PRIOR TO THIS MEETING I WAS MEETING WITH SOME OF OUR PARTNERS, SOME OF THE VENDORS THAT WE WORK WITH AND THEY ACKNOWLEDGED THE FACT THAT BOSTON IS DOING WORK THAT'S ON THE CUTTING EDGE. EVERY CITY DEALS AND STRUGGLES WITH SOME OF THESE SAME ISSUES BUT WE ARE THANKS TO THE INVESTMENTS AND THE SUPPORT THAT YOU HAVE FOR OUR DEPARTMENT FOR THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS WE ARE WE'RE DOING THINGS RIGHT AND THERE'S STILL WORK TO BE DONE BUT WE'RE DOING A LOT OF THE RIGHT THINGS AND AGAIN AND CREATING ACCESSIBLE EXPERIENCES, BEING ABLE TO DRIVE BETTER OUTCOMES FOR FOR OUR RESIDENTS UM I THINK THAT'S THE END OF THE PRESENTATION. WE JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON WHAT WE PRESENTED LAST TIME AND AGAIN THE TELL THE THIS THE SYNTHESIS THE SUMMARY WOULD BE WE'RE A LITTLE BIT AHEAD OF SCHEDULE OF WHAT WE HAD PROMISED YOU AND IT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE IF IT WASN'T FOR THE RESOURCES THAT YOU GUYS GAVE US. SO THANK YOU.  THANK YOU FOR THAT PRESENTATION AND I'D JUST LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN WITH THE FIRST ROUND OF QUESTIONS AND I AM AND I'M GOING TO GIVE THE START TO THE SPONSORS OF THIS OF THIS TALK AND THEN I WOULD TURN TO THE FLOOR OVER TO THE COLLEAGUES IN ORDER OF ARRIVAL. THE WAY I'D LIKE TO DO IS I'D LIKE TO START OFF WITH 3 MINUTES PER FOR THE FIRST ROUND OF QUESTIONS FOR MY COUNCILORS AND THEN SO WE CAN CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION AND THEN WE'LL DO A SECOND ROUND OF QUESTIONS IF THERE'S MORE. WHEN I START WITH COUNCILOR GABRIELLA CARLO THANK YOU SO MUCH MR CHAIR AND THANK YOU FOR THIS PRESENTATION. I APPRECIATE THE UPDATE AND I JUST LOVE THE FACT THAT WE ARE REALLY DIGGING INTO THE NUTS AND BOLTS HERE. THIS IS REALLY WHERE THE RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD WHERE WE TALK ABOUT THIS MACHINE THAT IS CITY GOVERNMENT AND MAKING SURE THAT IT'S WELL OILED AND RUNNING AT ITS MOST EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE SO THAT WE'RE BETTER, FASTER, STRONGER AT SERVING OUR CONSTITUENTS AND SO THIS IS THIS IS THE WORK THAT I LOVE AND I'M VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT IT. I CAN TELL THAT YOU'RE ALSO PASSIONATE ABOUT IT TOO AND I JUST WANT TO LEVEL SET TO WITH SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES THAT WHO WEREN'T HERE LAST YEAR SO THIS IS AN AMALGAMATION OF TWO HEARING ORDERS. ONE WAS ABOUT THE DIGITIZATION OF PARKING REGULATIONS WHICH IS WHERE THIS PRESENTATION COMES FROM AND I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU'RE GIVING US AN UPDATE BECAUSE I REMEMBER SAYING I'M GOING TO CALL YOU BACK IN HERE TO SEE WHERE THIS IS AT JUST TO SEE HOW OUR TAX DOLLARS ARE BEING UTILIZED BECAUSE WE DID GET THAT BUDGET ALLOCATION FOR YOU AND VERY PROUD OF THAT AND I'M EXCITED TO HEAR ABOUT YOUR WORK. AND THEN ON THE FLIP SIDE WAS A BROADER DISCUSSION ABOUT THE TECHNOLOGICAL INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE CITY OF BOSTON AND WHAT YOU ALL ARE DOING IN EACH INDIVIDUAL CITY DEPARTMENT NOT JUST BTD AND PUBLIC WORKS AND THE FACT THAT YOU ARE CONDUCTING AN AUDIT OF ALL THE CITY DEPARTMENTS TO EVEN LEVEL SET AND FIGURE OUT WHERE WE ARE AT IN TERMS OF PROGRAMS AND SYSTEMS AND SOFTWARES AND HOW WE CAN ALL TALK TO ONE ANOTHER. AND SO IT IS A FAR AWAY CONCEPT THAT I THINK I STRUGGLE WITH TRYING TO MOTIVATE THE PUBLIC TO TO CARE ABOUT BECAUSE IT IMPACTS THEM AND HOW THEY INTERACT WITH CITY GOVERNMENT. BUT AGAIN APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION. CONGRATS ON BEING AHEAD OF SCHEDULE FOR THE CARTOGRAPHY AND THE REASON WHY THIS IS SO IMPORTANT IS BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN USING GOOGLE MAPS AS A WAY TO TRACK WHERE OUR SIGNS ARE AND WHAT OUR REGULATIONS ARE WHICH IS JUST NOT GOOD GOVERNMENT AND IT'S NOT ANYBODY'S FAULT BUT IT REALLY JUST CAME DOWN TO ENSURING THAT WE HAD A GOOD AUDIT AND SYSTEM TO TRACK OUR OWN OUR OWN ASSETS AND I APPRECIATE YOU ALL DOING THAT.  LET'S SEE I THINK I'LL GO INTO I THINK THE BROADER CONVERSATION WHEN IT COMES TO TECHNOLOGICAL INFRASTRUCTURE AND JUST WONDERING ABOUT THE PROGRESS MADE SO FAR ON YOUR INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENT AUDITS.  HAVE WE CONTRACTED ANY VENDORS TO LOOK AT TECHNOLOGICAL PLATFORMS THAT THE CITY MAY BE MOVING TOWARDS OR WE NEED MULTIPLE VENDORS? IS THAT A LINE ITEM IN THE BUDGET THAT YOU'RE SEEKING THIS YEAR? IF YOU CAN JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT YOUR WORK WITH INDIVIDUAL CITY DEPARTMENTS BEYOND BEAUTY AND PUBLIC WORKS EVEN THOUGH WE KNOW THAT THAT IS IMPORTANT AND THANK YOU AMY FOR YOUR WORK THEY'RE HOPING TO FOR YOU TO EXPAND ON THAT. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.  SO WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF CONCLUDING AN ASSESSMENT THAT WAS DONE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH PLAN MORAN WHICH IS A CONSULTING FIRM TO YOU TO YOUR POINT, WE HAVEN'T HAD WE KNOW THAT FOUR THINGS FOR RESIDENTS AND CONSTITUENTS WHO HAVE GOOD EXPERIENCES THINGS NEED TO WORK WELL THE ANSWER OF OH BTD OR BPA DOES THIS BUT THE OTHER AGENCY DOESN'T HAVE THAT DOESN'T SOUND WELL RIGHT LIKE BUT SO WE NEED EXPERIENCES THAT REALLY INTEGRATE PIECES AND COMPONENTS OF DIFFERENT AGENCIES AND DEPARTMENTS IN A WAY THAT'S KIND OF SEAMLESS SO THIS WAS I THINK LIKE THE FIRST TIME THAT WE COULD FIND OUT OF DOING AN AUDIT REALLY NOT ONLY WITH A DO IT BUT CITYWIDE OF TECHNOLOGY HOW IT'S OPERATED MORE MOSTLY WE WERE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE STAFF SUPPORT AROUND TECHNOLOGY, WHAT DO WE DO KIND OF THINKING ABOUT LIKE WHERE THERE MIGHT BE GAPS AND WHERE THERE MIGHT BE OVERLAPS. SO I'LL JUST READ THE THE FINAL REPORT WILL COME. WE'RE STILL FINALIZING SO IT'S NOT FULLY PUBLIC BUT LIKE SO THESE ARE PRELIMINARY RESULTS BUT DO YOU I THINK HAVE A SENSE OF LIKE THE SCALE OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN DISCOVERING IS ON THE DO IT SIDE ALONE THAT'S AGAIN JUST ONE PART OF THIS BROADER ECOSYSTEM.  WE HAVE EIGHT PROGRAMS SO THERE'S LIKE EIGHT TYPES OF WORK ACROSS 1494 DIFFERENT SOLUTIONS THAT WE SUPPORT AND 73 DIFFERENT TYPES OF THINGS THAT THE DEPARTMENTS AND AGENCIES CAN REQUEST FROM DO IT AND AGAIN SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO SUPPORT EVERYBODY LIKE WE PROVIDE INTERNET SERVICE TO ALL THE BUT SOME PUBLIC SCHOOL STUDENTS DO IT IS THE ISP FOR IS THE ONE THAT SUPPORTS INTERNET CONNECTIVITY THE SCHOOLS AND THE LIBRARIES BUT WE DON'T DO EVERYTHING FOR EVERYONE.  SO THE OTHER PIECE THAT IS NEW THAT WE HAVE IS A PIECING TOGETHER IS WHAT HAPPENS WITH TECHNOLOGY ACROSS ALL THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS AND AGENCIES AND THEY'RE THE NUMBERS AND THINK IT'S JUST SHOWS TO THE SCALE. BUT WE HAVE 14 DIFFERENT GROUPS THAT DO TECHNOLOGY AT THE CITY. SOME DO IT'S JUST ONE OF THEM OVER NINE CATEGORIES OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF SERVICES WE SUPPORT 154 TECHNOLOGY PRODUCTS AND THERE'S 107 DIFFERENT SERVICES SO DO IT'S DEFINITELY THE LARGEST I.T PROVIDER IN THE CITY BUT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS BE ABLE TO GOVERN AND SUPPORT EACH OTHER TO TRY TO GIVE REALLY GOOD EXPERIENCES FOR CONSTITUENTS AND CONSISTENCY SO IN THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR THANKS TO AGAIN THE MAYOR AND YOU ALL FOR THE SUPPORT WE WERE ABLE TO BUILD WE'RE STARTING TO BUILD THE NEW PRACTICE THAT WE CALL BUSINESS RELATIONSHIP MANAGEMENT WHEREAS WE'RE DO IT HAS A RELATIONSHIP WITH ALL DEPARTMENTS AND AGENCIES TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE SO THAT WE CAN ALIGN WHAT WE'RE DOING AND THEN CONTINUE TO BUILD IN A WAY THAT DOESN'T CREATE SILOS OR LIKE BARRIERS AND THE EXPERIENCES THAT PEOPLE HAVE. SO I'LL TELL YOU SOME OF THE DAY ONE OF OUR OUR FIRST VRM IS WORKING ON THE PROJECT TO BRING THE BPA TO THE CITY SO COORDINATED COORDINATING MAKING SURE THAT ALL OF THOSE EMPLOYEES ON JULY FIRST HAVE A SEAMLESS EXPERIENCE. THEY'RE STILL ABLE TO LOG IN AND DO THEIR WORK. IT TAKES A LOT OF COORDINATION. THERE'S BEEN WORK THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING AND AGAIN, THE ALL OF THE STARS OF OUR WORK IS OUR IT'S OUR OUR PARTNERS.  SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE REGISTRY DEPARTMENT AND WITH BP IS TO ENABLE ACCESS TO BIRTHS CERTIFICATES FROM PARENTS THAT ARE TRYING TO ENROLL KIDS.  SO THIS IS REALLY GOOD. PAUL CHANG AND WELCOME CENTERS CREDIT CREDIT WE JUST ENDED UP DOING THE MAGIC BEHIND THE SCENES SO THAT WHEN A PARENT'S TRYING TO ENROLL A KID IN BP IF THEY IF WE HAVE A BIRTH CERTIFICATE, THEY DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK TO CITY HALL TO THE REGISTRY AND GET THIS CERTIFICATE TO ENROLL THE KID. THE REGISTRY IS NOW ABLE TO ACCESS THE WELCOME CENTER'S ABLE TO ACCESS THAT INFORMATION FROM THE REGISTRY IN A WAY THAT'S SECURE SO THAT THE PARENTS CAN ENROLL THE KID. SO IT'S LIKE IT'S ALL THESE LITTLE INTERFACES AND ALL THE THINGS THAT WE KNOW THAT CAN BE FRUSTRATING ABOUT GOVERNMENT BUT THEY'RE LIKE THIS IS THE WRONG WINDOW. GO TO THIS OTHER PLACE TO THE EXTENT THAT WE KEEP BUILDING THIS A COMPREHENSIVE VIEW OF TECHNOLOGY AND INFORMATION THAT WE CAN MAKE IT LESS FRUSTRATING FOR PEOPLE TO INTERACT WITH US.  THANK YOU. AND I KNOW MY TIME IS UP. I'LL HOLD MY QUESTIONS FOR THE NEXT ROUND. THANK YOU SO SO THANK YOU COUNSELOR. COUNSELOR FLYNN THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.  I KNOW YOU'RE WORKING ON A LOT OF GREAT INITIATIVES BUT MY NEIGHBORHOOD IN CHINATOWN IS STILL STRUGGLING TO ACCESS THE INTERNET, ESPECIALLY RESIDENTS LIVING IN HIGH, HIGH RISE TYPE BUILDINGS, LIMITED ACCESS.  THEY HAVE A COUPLE KIDS MAYBE IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM. SOMETIMES THEY GET THEY DON'T HAVE THE FULL ACCESS SO BOTH KIDS CAN ACCESS THE INTERNET AT THE SAME TIME IF THEY'RE DOING REMOTE LEARNING.  WHAT ARE WE DOING FOR THIS TYPE OF A COMMUNITY WHERE THE TECHNOLOGY IS POOR AND WE ALSO ARE DEALING WITH LANGUAGE CHALLENGES AS WELL DIGITAL EQUITY ISSUES. SO WHAT DO YOU THINK, CHIEF ABSOLUTELY. AND TO YOUR POINT, COUNSELOR, WE WE KNOW THAT THERE AND AGAIN WE CONTINUE TO GET MORE DATA AND INFORMATION THAT CONFIRMS THIS THAT THE GAPS IN BOSTON FOR PEOPLE TO CONNECT WITH AFFORDABLE HIGH CONNECTED WITH HIGH QUALITY DIGITAL EXPERIENCES FOR THE MOST PART PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING SO WE HAVE BEEN WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH THE STATE WITH THE MASSACHUSETTS IT'S BROADBAND INSTITUTE WHICH IS THE LEAD IN DIGITAL EQUITY AND THE STATES ARE OUR DIGITAL EQUITY OFFICER BRIAN DONAHUE HAS BEEN WORKING CLOSELY AND THERE'S SOME PROGRAMS TO HELP DO RESIDENTIAL RETROFIT SO BUILDINGS THAT HAVE HIGH CONCENTRATIONS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS ARE ELIGIBLE TO GET FUNDING TO BUILD INFRASTRUCTURE TO BUILD FREE WI-FI WITHIN THE UNIT OR TO DO SOME PROJECTS. SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH KENZIE BOK, WITH ADMINISTRATOR BOK AND WITH OTHERS ON THE CITY LIKE THE PUBLIC ON A SIDE OF THINGS.  BUT THERE IS FUNDING AND WE'VE BEEN VOICING AND SHARING WITH THE STATE THAT THE DEFINITELY WE NEED TO SUPPORT AND THE INVESTMENT TO HELP MAKE SURE THAT EVERY RESIDENT WHETHER IT'S AN ELDERLY ADULT, WHETHER IT'S A FAMILY WITH YOUNG KIDS EVERYBODY'S ABLE TO CONNECT TO THE INTERNET IN A WAY THAT IS AFFORDABLE THAT IS CONVENIENT. SO I'M HAPPY TO FOLLOW UP IF THEY'RE SPECIFIC BUILDINGS OR UNITS THAT YOU THINK THAT WOULD NEED SUPPORT, WE CAN CONNECT THEM WITH THE STATE FUNDING AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER. THAT WOULD BE GREAT. THANK YOU, CHIEF. MY FINAL QUESTION DO YOU TRACK WHERE CALLS COME IN FROM CONSTITUENTS ACROSS THE CITY WHO USES ACCESS TO TECHNOLOGY FOR A CONSTITUENT REQUEST AND WHO CALLS IN ON THE TELEPHONE SO I WOULD IF IT'S OKAY I WOULD GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT. I DON'T LIKE I DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD EXACTLY WHAT INFORMATION WE'RE COLLECTING. BUT AGAIN, WE WE DO SUPPORT THE 311. YEAH, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. I GUESS THE I'M ASKING IS I REPRESENT THE SOUTH BOSTON WATERFRONT.  I WOULD ASSUME MOST OF THE PEOPLE THERE ARE USING DIGITAL ACCESS TO FOR A CONSTITUENT REQUEST BUT I WANT TO SEE WHAT LOWER INCOME RESIDENTS THAT I ALSO REPRESENT IN PUBLIC HOUSING WHAT HOW THEY'RE CONNECTING TO CITY SERVICES. THANK YOU YEAH WE AGAIN WE WILL HAPPY TO FOLLOW UP WE TRY TO FIND THE RIGHT BALANCE BETWEEN PRIVACY AND CONVENIENCE SO WE THINK THAT A LOT OF THE TIMES WHEN WE RECEIVE OUR REQUEST WE DON'T CAPTURE ALL THE INFORMATION BECAUSE WE WANT TO RESPECT PEOPLE'S PRIVACY. BUT I CAN FOLLOW UP WITH MORE SPECIFIC DETAILS.  THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILOR BREADON.  THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.  CONGRATULATIONS ON BEING AHEAD OF SCHEDULE ON THE STREET.  WORK ON THE STREET SIGNS ETC. I DIDN'T REALIZE WITH SO MANY ASSETS IN THE PUBLIC WAY THERE'S A LOT OF THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF OUT THERE. LET'S SEE THE CITY OPERATES WHAT THEY CALL A FEDERATED I.T ENVIRONMENT SO ALL THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS HAVE THEIR OWN SORT OF AUTONOMY TO A CERTAIN EXTENT AND THE DEPARTMENT OF DO IT DO IT PROVIDES SOME CENTRAL SERVICES TO CITY AGENCIES AND OTHER SERVICES ARE BUDGETED OUT. DO YOU FIND THAT'S LIKE A CHALLENGE IN TERMS OF HAVING EVERYBODY UP TO SYSTEMS THAT TALK TO EACH OTHER AND AND AND THEN JUST EVEN THE SECURITY APPARATUS IN TERMS OF KEEPING IT KEEPING IT SECURE LIKE HOW ARE WE MOVING TOWARDS HAVING A MORE INTEGRATED CENTRALIZED SYSTEM? ARE WE ARE WE STILL IS THAT A LONG WAY OFF?  YEAH, WE CONTINUE TO DO WORK IN THAT REGARD ABOUT THINKING ABOUT WHAT THE GOVERNANCE MODEL FOR TECHNOLOGY BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT AGAIN USUALLY IT'S A CONSTITUENT THAT IS IMPACTED BY WHEN THE SYSTEMS DON'T INTERACT WITH EACH OTHER. WE'RE MAKING SOMEONE DO MORE WORK AND OFTEN THE PEOPLE THAT RELY THE MOST ON GOVERNMENT SERVICES, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE NEED GOVERNMENT TO WORK BETTER . SO WE'RE MAKING SOME PROGRESS AROUND AGAIN BUILDING THIS BUSINESS RELATIONSHIP MANAGEMENT AND THIS GOVERNANCE AND POLICY TEAM. I THINK THAT THERE'S WORK TO BE DONE. THE GOOD THINGS LIKE WE'VE BEEN BUILDING A LOT OF TRUSTING RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND AGENCIES WITH THE SCHOOLS, WITH THE PD, WITH OTHERS AND WE THINK THAT WE CAN IT'S IT'S OUR JOB. I THINK IT IS MY JOB WHAT THE MAYOR BROUGHT MEJIA TO RAISE THE FLOOR SO THAT WE CAN ALL HAVE A BETTER EXPERIENCE THAT WE'RE MAKING GIVING EXPERIENCES THAT ARE DIGNIFIED, THAT ARE EMBRACING OF THE FACT THAT PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF ACCESS TO TECHNOLOGY, THAT HAVE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF COMFORT WITH TECHNOLOGY,  DIFFERENT LANGUAGE SKILLS AND THERE'S SO THERE IS WORK TO BE DONE AND WE'RE JUST STARTING TO MOVE TOWARDS AT LEAST HAVING THAT VISIBILITY INTO WHAT ARE THE PIECES THAT WE MIGHT BE MISSING. YEAH, AND WE HAD A HEARING THIS MORNING ABOUT WHAT WE HAD WHAT WAS WHITE TRASH AND CODE ENFORCEMENT.  ONE ISSUE THAT WE'RE BUMPING INTO IS WHEN WE DO WE ISSUE WANT TO ISSUE AND LEAN ON A PROPERTY.  THE COURTS HAVE TOLD US THAT WE CAN'T EVEN IF WE HAVE GOOD INFORMATION ON THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY AND THE OWNER OF IT WE CAN'T ISSUE AND LEAN BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THAT LEVEL OF STANDARD ACROSS THE BOARD AND THEY HAVE IN THE PAST ISSUED A LEAD ON A PROPERTY AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE ACCURATE INFORMATION ABOUT OWNERSHIP SO I THINK THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT'S MORE INTER-GOVERNMENTAL THE SENSE HOW THE CITY OF BOSTON ASSESSING DEPARTMENT COMMUNICATES WITH THE SUFFOLK REGISTRY OF DEEDS SO THAT WE HAVE TIMELY AND ACCURATE INFORMATION ABOUT THE OWNERSHIP OF A PROPERTY ISN'T SOMETHING HOW DIFFICULT OR LIKE THIS IS I'M THROWING YOU A ZINGER HERE HOW HOW DIFFICULT WOULD IT BE TO SORT OF ADDRESS THAT ISSUE BECAUSE IT'S AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL OF EXTRA ENTITY OUTSIDE OF THE CITY? WE'D BE HAPPY TO LOOK INTO IT AGAIN. I COULDN'T COME UP WITH THE RIGHT ANSWER WITHOUT HAVING WORKING WITH OUR TEAM BUT WHAT I WOULD SAY IS WE'RE HIRING AND WE HAVE A REALLY TALENTED TEAM OF PEOPLE OUR DATA ENGINEERING TEAM THAT ENABLES SOME OF THE STUFF THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT LIKE BEHIND THE SCENES. SO I WOULD BE HAPPY TO FOLLOW UP AND.  WE'VE BEEN ALSO BUILDING GOOD RELATIONSHIPS WITH FOLKS IN THE STATE SO WE'LL TAKE IT AS AN ACTION ITEM AND TRY TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO WORK TO THANK YOU. I THINK THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL BECAUSE WE'RE LEAVING A LOT OF WE'RE LEAVING A LOT. WE'RE LETTING A LOT OF PEOPLE OFF THE HOOK IN TERMS OF ENFORCEMENT AND WE'RE LEAVING A LOT OF MONEY ON THE TABLE AS WELL. I THINK TO DO THAT.  SO CYBERSECURITY I'M ALWAYS VERY CONSCIOUS OF THE FACT IN THIS MODERN TIME THAT IF IT'S A CYBER ATTACK IT CAN FORCE A WHOLE CITY DOWN AND I DO WANT TO RELEASE PROPRIETARY INFORMATION HERE BUT IS THAT IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE THE RESOURCES TO KEEP THEM UP TO SPEED, KEEP ON TOP OF ALL OF THAT?  YEAH, I THINK I MEAN AT SOME POINT IF AS THE INTERESTS OF THE COUNCIL WE COULD DO PRIVILEGED SESSION AND GIVE YOU MORE INFORMATION THAT'S THAT'S A BIT OF HOPE BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S AT THE FOREFRONT OF OUR TOP OF MIND.  WE HAVE A GREAT CHIEF INFORMATION SECURITY OFFICER AND A GREAT SECURITY TEAM BUT AS WE START AGAIN THINKING THE WAY THE SECURITY THREATS, CYBERSECURITY THREATS WE'RE ALL CONNECTED. SO THIS IS PART OF THE OTHER SPIRIT BEHIND OF THE GOVERNANCE IMPROVING, GOVERNANCE AND VISIBILITY ACROSS THE BOARD.  THE THE BAD GUYS ONLY NEED TO ENTER THROUGH ONE DOOR AND ONE'S THERE AND THEY CAN START MOVING AROUND SO IT'S A BIG CONCERN OF AREA OF CONCERN AND SOMETHING THAT WE THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT MORE ABOUT BUT AGAIN WE HAVE A GOOD ROBUST PROGRAM AND GREG MURPHY'S IS A GREAT CHIEF INFORMATION SECURITY OFFICER. OKAY. APPRECIATE THAT THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILOR COUNCILOR MURPHY, YOU TECHNOLOGY AS YOU KNOW IT PROVIDES ACCESS BUT IT ALSO BREAKS DOWN BARRIERS. SO I APPRECIATE IT WHEN YOU SAID THE SCENARIO ABOUT GETTING A BIRTH CERTIFICATE TO THREE YEARS IN A ROW NOW I'VE HELD A HEARING ABOUT THE YOUTH SUMMER JOBS AND ONE THING I HEAR AT THE MOST AND I KNOW MY COLLEAGUES PROBABLY DO ALSO IS THE KIDS WHO GO AND APPLY AND DON'T HAVE THEIR WORKING PAPERS OR MAY NOT HAVE A PARENT AT HOME THAT CAN HELP THEM GET THOSE DOCUMENTS IN TIME.  SO WOULD LOVE TO KNOW IF YOU'RE WORKING WITH THAT OFFICE TOO BECAUSE A LOT OF THE DOCUMENTS THAT I BROUGHT UP AT ONE OF THE HEARINGS WITH YOU YOUR BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND PROOF OF ADDRESS ARE ALL THINGS IF YOU'RE A KID WE ALREADY KNOW IN OUR SYSTEM WHY CAN'T WE JUST USE WHAT WE ALREADY KNOW SECURELY AND JUST ISSUE WORKING PAPERS SO THAT KIDS CAN GET SUMMER JOBS? AND THAT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE. BUT IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE DOING IN THAT DEPARTMENT AND IN OTHERS? YES. THE PARTICULAR OPPORTUNITY IS ONE THAT'S IN OUR IN OUR RADAR AND AGAIN WE WE'VE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH BEPS AND WITH OTHERS. THERE'S PIECES AROUND WHEN WE THINK ABOUT SECURITY AND PRIVACY AGAIN THERE'S SOMETIMES CERTAIN INFORMATION'S RESTRICTED BECAUSE YOU KNOW MIGHT BE USED BY AGENCY IN A WAY THAT WAS NOT INTENDED FOR THE WELL IN A WAY THAT WAS NOT INTENDED. BUT WE ARE WORKING WITH THE PEOPLE AND THE YOUTH SUMMER PROGRAM AND AGAIN WE WORK VERY CLOSE TO TRYING TO BUILD A BETTER EXPERIENCE OF AND I JUST MAKE SURE THAT THE CREDIT GOES PAUL CHUNG OUR CITY REGISTRAR WAS THE ONE WHO CAME UP WITH THE IDEA AND HAS BEEN A GREAT PARTNER, A GREAT CHAMPION. WE'VE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY TOGETHER TO ENABLE THOSE THOSE INTEGRATIONS. THAT'S AWESOME.  OBVIOUSLY IT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP BUT THE DEPARTMENTS NEED TO TALK TO EACH OTHER SO THERE IS A LOT ON YOUR OFFICE BECAUSE IN THIS DAY AND AGE IN THE DIGITAL WORLD THAT'S GOING TO BE ELECTRONICALLY.  SO I HOPE WHEN YOU COME BACK TO US AND I KNOW YOU PROBABLY ALREADY SAW YOUR PART OF THE BUDGET THAT THERE'S ENOUGH RESOURCES THERE TO EXPAND AND THANK YOU COUNCILOR BREADON. I KNOW IT'S YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO JUST BE AWARE OF RIGHT WHEN WE HAD THE AT&T BREACH OR WE HAD TO SHUT IT DOWN OR EVEN WHEN WE HAVE A YOU KNOW, A TANKER THAT CRASHES, THE FIRST THING PEOPLE THINK WAS THIS LIKE A CYBER SECURITY DID SOMETHING HAPPEN? SO DEFINITELY HAPPY TO HEAR THAT WE ARE ON TOP OF THAT ONE JUST QUESTION ABOUT THE ASSETS WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT THE THE ENORMOUS AMOUNT ARE WE ONLY REFERRING TO STREET SIGNS? WHAT OTHER ASSETS DID WE RECORD IN THAT BLEEP THAT WE HAVE ABOUT 18 DIFFERENT TYPES OF ASSETS. I GOT THE NUMBER BUT THE FUNDING OF IT SO CONFIRMED BY BY ME ABOUT 18 DIFFERENT TYPES OF ASSETS MOSTLY THINGS THAT ARE CLEARLY VISIBLE. SOME OF THAT WOULD BE DRIVING THROUGH THE RIGHT OF WAY. THIS IS LIKE SIGNS POLES, MASS STREET LIGHTS, CONES LIKE JUST DIFFERENT THINGS.  YEAH, DIFFERENT THINGS AND AGAIN WE CONTINUE TO OUR GOAL IS TO KEEP INTEGRATING AND ADDING MORE PARTS AND WE WORK CLOSELY WITH WITH DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS THAT OWN AND OPERATE ASSETS.  OUR HOPE WOULD BE TO EXPAND SOME OF THIS METHODOLOGY ALSO TO THE PARKS DEPARTMENT AND OTHER GROUPS THAT SO LITTLE BY LITTLE WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU CHAIR THANK YOU COUNCILOR COUNCILOR ANDERSON THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. I'M INTERESTED BY LOOKING AT THE TITLE AND THEN THINKING FURTHER I GUESS IT'S A LOT ABOUT TRANSPORTATION BUT I'M REALLY INTERESTED IN WHAT IT SAYS HERE IMPROVEMENTS ACROSS CITY DEPARTMENTS AND IN THINKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, OUR OFFICE AND WHAT WE DO ON A DAILY BASIS I WONDER WHY THERE ISN'T AN OPTION IN THE 311 APP TO SO THAT CONSTITUENTS CAN SHARE THE INQUIRY OR SO THAT YOU CAN SHARE THE INQUIRY WITH OUR OFFICES WITH THE COUNCIL . YES. OKAY.  BECAUSE IF THE CONSTITUENTS GIVE CONSENT THEN THE QUESTION THERE WON'T BE A PROBLEM OF CONFIDENTIALITY. THEY'RE CONSENTING YOU THEY'RE SAYING YEAH, SHARE THIS WITH MY COUNCILOR . YEAH.  AGAIN I WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR IDEAS ON HOW TO IMPROVE OUR SYSTEMS. WE COULD ENTERTAIN AGAIN AND YOU KNOW LIKE AGAIN LIKE SOMETIMES THE CONSTRAINTS WHEN WE ARE IMPLEMENTING TECHNOLOGY IT'S ALSO THE VENDORS LIKE THE PEOPLE THAT PROVIDE THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATIONS BUILD BY A THIRD PARTY THAT THAT SELLS THIS TOOL TO A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT CITIES THAT THEY TEND TO GAUGE OUR REQUESTS.  BUT I WOULD BE HAPPY TO FOLLOW UP WITH THAT IDEA AND SEE IF IT'S FEASIBLE. THAT COULD BE POSSIBLE AND IT'S A CHECKBOX.  IT'S A LITTLE CHECKBOX. YOU JUST GO YEAH SHARE THIS WITH MY COUNCILORS.  SO AGAIN WE EMBRACE INNOVATION AND ALL THAT LARGESS. IT WOULD GO TO THE DISTRICT COUNCILOR AND ALL AT LARGE IS IT WOULD STREAMLINE THIS IDEA THAT COUNCILORS HAVE TO CALL 311 AND FOLLOW UP AND ALL OF THESE DEPARTMENTS WE WOULD HAVE AN INVENTORY SOMEWHERE A SPREADSHEET COLLECTING INQUIRIES SO WE WOULD ALREADY HAVE FIRST HAND OH THIS CONSTITUENT I KNOW THIS, I KNOW THIS YOU KNOW JOHN DOE. I KNOW MR DANDO, I KNOW THAT THEY PUT IN AN INQUIRY ABOUT THE SIDEWALK SOMEWHERE. IT'S IT'S INTUITIVE AND THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW IT'S SUPER COUNTERINTUITIVE. RIGHT? WE DON'T KNOW. WE DON'T GET TO KNOW UNTIL THEY COMPLAIN AND THEN THEY GET FRUSTRATED BECAUSE THEY COMPLAIN AND THEN WE CALL THE DEPARTMENTS. THE DEPARTMENTS ARE GREAT BUT THEY'RE ALREADY INVOLVED IN THE INQUIRY. WHY NOT JUST SHARE WITH US IF A CONSTITUENT SAYS IT'S OKAY, THAT'S ONE IDEA. ANOTHER THING IS HOW COME WE DON'T HAVE LAPTOPS SO I KNOW I'M NOT AROUND SO THAT IS A GREAT THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION IF YOU DON'T MIND ME GIVING THEIR RESPONSE OF YEAH WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF CHANGING THE WAY THAT THIS AND AGAIN THANKS TO THE SUPPORT THAT YOU THAT YOU GIVE US WE ARE CHANGING WE'RE TRYING TO BE BETTER ABOUT HOW WE MANAGE OUR ASSETS IN OUR TECHNOLOGY ASSETS AND IN THAT SPIRIT WE HAVE STARTED THE PROCESS OF WE'VE STARTED THE PROCESS OF CENTRALIZING THE BUDGETING AND PURCHASING OF DEVICES AND STANDARDIZING SO WE ARE STANDARDIZING TWO LAPTOPS AND WE WILL BE CREATING A FOUR YEAR REFRESH CYCLE. SO EVERY FOUR YEARS WITH YOU HAVE A DEVICE THAT IS UNDER WARRANTY SO THERE IS A LAPTOP THERE COMING.  THEY'RE COMING, THEY'RE COMING, YEAH. SO WE WE STARTED THAT PROCESS WE HAVE THE FIRST SET OF DEPLOYMENT WE'RE WORKING SO YOU KNOW HOW WE'RE DOING THIS WE'RE WORKING OFF OF THE DEVICES THAT HAVE THAT ARE THE OLDEST DEVICES AND THE DEVICES THAT TEND TO HAVE THE MOST SECURITY CONCERNS AND THERE'S A RECORDER. BUT THAT'S BUT WE'LL WE'LL GET TO THE COUNCILOR AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS HAVE THE TOOLS THAT YOU HAVE TO DO THAT. THANK YOU CONSTANTLY. AND LISTEN, MR CHAIR, IF YOU COULD WAIT UNTIL THE SECOND ROUND SO THAT WE CAN TAKE SUGGESTION HERE IS MAYBE LIMITING TO THREE QUESTIONS, NOT 3 MINUTES SAYING YOU'VE GOT THREE QUESTIONS BECAUSE ONE SOME PEOPLE 3 MINUTES TAKES ONE QUESTION. YEAH BUT I'LL CONSIDER THAT FOR THE NEXT HEARING.  CAN I FOLLOW UP ON WHAT HE SAID THOUGH? THERE'S A FOLLOW UP I CAN I ASK YOU TO PLEASE WAIT FOR THE SECOND ROUND OF QUESTIONS JUST TO CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION? IT'S EXACTLY ABOUT WHAT HE JUST SAID. I'LL ALLOW IT THIS TIME. I APPRECIATE IT.  THIS IS WHY I GOT ELECTED SO OKAY, BUT LISTEN ABOUT THE 311 THING WE DON'T SYSTEMS YOU GUYS HAVE AIR TABLE YOU HAVE DIFFERENT LIKE YOU KNOW DATABASES THAT YOU ACTUALLY KEEP TRACK OF WHAT'S HAPPENING YOU HAVE THE 311 APP ALL OF THIS MONEY TAX DOLLARS THAT COMES FROM THE CONSTITUENTS GIFTS GOES STRAIGHT TO THE CITY SIDE THE COUNCIL SIDE THAT ALSO DEALS WITH CONSTITUENT SERVICES. OUR JOB IS SORT OF LIKE THE ACCOUNTABILITY PART OR WHATEVER BUT WE'RE HELD LIKE WE WERE MORE ACCOUNTABLE BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THEY MOST PEOPLE ARE CLEAR THAT THIS IS THE MAYOR'S JOB, THE MAYOR'S RESPONSIBILITIES, CONSTITUENT SERVICE NOT THE COUNCILS.  HOWEVER, WE GET THAT RESPONSIBILITY OF FOLLOWING UP IF WE CREATE A SYSTEM FOR THE COUNCIL THAT USES AI TO TRANSLATE EMAILS INTO CONSTITUENTS INQUIRIES THAT WOULD BE AMAZING.  AND GUESS WHAT IT EXISTS. I LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THAT TOO.  OKAY. THANK YOU. I'M SO SORRY , MR CHAIR. IT'S OKAY.  SEE HOW IT CONNECTED THERE? YES, THANKS. THANK ACCOUNTS. COUNCILOR MEJIA.  I LIKE FOLLOWING COUNCIL . I UNDERSTAND SO THAT WE CAN KEEP UP THE VIBE HERE SO I WOULD LOVE TO ADD TO MY LIST OF INQUIRY HERE.  I HAVE EVERY SINGLE HEARING THAT I DO IN EVERY SINGLE OPPORTUNITY THAT I'VE HAD.  I'VE ASKED FOR A DASHBOARD OF SORTS.  I'M LIKE A DASHBOARD CLEAN ESPECIALLY WITH THE BOSS ON JOBS RESIDENCY FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS OR HOWEVER LONG I'VE BEEN ON THIS COUNCIL I HAVE WANTED TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN HOLD OURSELVES ACCOUNTABLE TO DATA RIGHT?  SO FOR EXAMPLE WHEN SOMEONE OR PROCUREMENT OR WHATEVER THE CASE IS I'M JUST GIVING YOU THE JOBS RESIDENCY BUT ON THE PROCUREMENT FRONT IT WOULD BE GREAT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE SOME PLACE TO BE ABLE TO KEEP TRACK OF LIKE WHY IF SOMEONE WASN'T GIVEN A YOU KNOW, A JOB WHY YOU KNOW, IS THERE A WAY FOR US TO SORT OUT THE REASONS WHY AND I'M SURE THIS IS GOING TO THEY'RE GOING TO SAY OH, THIS IS FOR THE BOSTON JOBS RESIDENCY HEARING THAT US BUT ULTIMATELY THERE IS A ROLE FOR DO IT TO PLAY AND HELPING TO SET UP THESE DEPARTMENTS FOR A SUCCESS. SO I'M GOING TO ADVOCATE FOR THAT AND FOR YOU ALL TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE FOLKS OVER AND WORKER EMPOWERMENT BECAUSE AT SOME POINT I'D LIKE TO GET A LITTLE BIT DEEPER WITH THESE DASHBOARDS.  YOU KNOW THERE'S GREAT IDEAS BUT I THINK THAT THERE IS A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE MISSING AND I'M CURIOUS IF THOSE ARE MISSING BECAUSE IT'S A COPY CITY ISSUE OR IT'S BECAUSE IT'S A MONEY ISSUE OR IS IT SOMETHING THAT YOU ARE NOT ABLE TO DO AND THAT WE HAVE TO OUTSOURCE IT?  I'M JUST I NEED TO GET THE ANSWER AS TO WHY I HAVE BEEN TO EVERY HEARING AND I'VE ASKED FOR DASHBOARDS AND NO ONE HAS DELIVERED EXACTLY THE WAY THAT I'M ENVISIONING THEM. YEAH, GET AT MY ATTEMPT TO TO ANSWER THIS WOULD BE THE AND RESIDENCY JOBS PROGRAM THAT YOU ALLUDED TO THAT IS BUILDING TECHNOLOGY THAT IS NOT DIRECTLY SUPPORTED BY DO IT SO WE SUPPORT ALL DEPARTMENTS AROUND DATA ANALYTICS IN TRYING TO HELP THEM BUILD CAPACITY.  WE PROCURED THE SOFTWARE THAT WE USE TO BUILD THE DASHBOARDS BUT DEFERRED THE QUESTION UNLIKE THE ACTUAL BUILDING OF THE DASHBOARD TO THE FOLKS IN THE WORKER EMPOWERMENT AND THE BECAUSE WE WORK WITH THEM WHEN AND THERE ARE SOME DASHBOARDS AND SOME ENTERPRISE DATA PIECES THAT WE MANAGE AT AN ENTERPRISE LEVEL. SO DURING THE BUDGET HEARING PROCESS LIKE A LOT OF THE DATA I'LL JUST I'LL JUST SAY THAT YOU TOLD ME THAT THIS IS NOT IT DOESN'T HAVE ACCESS. THIS IS WHAT IN THIS WORK WE DO THIS THAT YOU GUYS BUT YOU KNOW ,IT'S LIKE LOOK OVER HERE OVER THERE I THINK I'M SORRY . I UNDERSTAND. SO LET'S JUST GET INTO SOME OF THE THINGS AROUND INFORMATION JUSTICE LIKE WE FILED A HEARING ORDER AND WE WERE ABLE TO PASS THE LANGUAGE ACCESS ORDINANCE THAT MAKES SURE THAT EVERYTHING THAT WE COMES OUT IN ENGLISH THE SAME DAY GETS TRANSLATED IN THE TOP 11 LANGUAGES SPOKEN HERE IN THE CITY OF BOSTON. BUT DURING THAT PROCESS I WAS FIGHTING FOR AUDIO AND VISUAL LIKE BECAUSE NOT EVERYBODY KNOWS HOW TO READ AND WRITE AND I THAT'S A PRIVILEGE AND I THINK THAT SOMETIMES THAT WE TAKE FOR GRANTED THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS HOW TO READ AND WRITE.  SO I'M CURIOUS WHAT IF ANY CAN YOU THINK ABOUT YOU KNOW,  INFORMATION THAT YOU CAN SHARE WITH ME AS TO HOW CAN WE GET OUR DATA IN OUR ACCESS TO MATERIALS THAT ARE MORE ACCESSIBLE TO FOLKS WHO HAVE A HARD TIME READING AND WRITING? YEAH, LOOK, ACCESSIBILITY IS AT THE FOREFRONT OF WHAT WE DO AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE REALLY FOCUS ON IS WHEN WE'RE BUILDING AND MANAGING BUS AND UNGOVERNED A LOT OF THE MATERIALS THAT WE BUILD THAT THEY'RE ACCESSIBLE SO WE USE WCAG WHICH IS THE ACCESSIBILITY STANDARDS AS OUR DESIGN DESIGN STANDARDS AND WE TRIED TO ENFORCE THAT WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS.  WE WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH THE DISABILITIES COMMISSION AND WITH MARY ANGELES CABINET TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE BUILD MORE INCLUSIVE EXPERIENCES. SO I'D SAY FOR US IT'S AN ASPIRATION OF ALWAYS TRYING TO BUILD THINGS THAT ARE MORE THE BETTER DESIGNED THAT ARE MORE INTUITIVE AND PEOPLE THIS IS UNDER A NEW LEADERSHIP SO IT'S ALWAYS HARD TO HAVE HEARINGS AND YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO ADAPT PEOPLE'S STYLES. WELL I ONLY HAVE 3 MINUTES AND SO I THINK THAT I'M JUST GOING TO ASK THAT YOU ALSO USE SYMBOLS AND NOT JUST TYPE OF IN SPANISH BUT MAYBE IF YOU PUT LIKE A FLAG OF YOUR COUNTRY THAT IF YOU CLICK THAT THEN EVERYTHING THERE GETS SO THAT YOU CAN GO VISUALLY AND KNOW THAT THAT'S THE LANGUAGE THAT IS SPOKEN ON THAT WEBSITE.  SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. THANK YOU COUNCILOR . AND JUST TO REMIND YOU ALL THAT THERE IS OPPORTUNITY FOR A SECOND ROUND OF QUESTIONS. THIS IS NOT THE ONLY TIME FOR QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE FOLLOW UPS COUNSELOR FITZGERALD'S THANK YOU PUNCTUALITY IS SO IMPORTANT BECAUSE WHEN YOU ARE LATE TO A HEARING ALL YOUR QUESTIONS GET STOLEN BY YOUR FANTASTIC COLLEAGUES.  BUT WHAT I WILL TRY TO THERE THAT WE ALL GO THROUGH IT EVERY DAY IT'S GREAT BUT THAT'S ON ME SO FORGIVE ME IF SOME OF THESE ARE SLIGHTLY REPETITIVE OR REDUNDANT BUT THINK THAT THERE MIGHT BE ANOTHER WAY TO ANSWER IT WHEN WE COME TO PERFORMANCE MANAGEMENT COME TO ME HE HAD JUST MENTIONED TALKING ABOUT DATA IT SEEMS LIKE WE HAD THE WHOLE CITY SCORE RIGHT?  YOU REMEMBER THAT AND FROM SEVERAL YEARS AGO AND IT SEEMS THAT SEEMS TO HAVE KIND OF DIED. WHAT ARE WE DOING IN THIS DOMAIN TO ENSURE WE'RE STILL MAKING THESE DATA DRIVEN DECISIONS AND HOW ARE WE GONNA PLAY THAT OR WHAT IS WHAT IS THE THIS NEXT ITERATION OF CITY SCORE IF WE HAVE ANY? YEAH NO WE CONTINUE TO THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. WE CONTINUE TO EVOLVE HOW WE THINK ABOUT USING DATA AND HOW WE USE IT IN MAKING AN INFORMING DECISION. SO ONE WE CONTINUE TO HAVE AND MANAGE THE PERFORMANCE MANAGEMENT TEAM AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS EVERY DEPARTMENT REPORTS PERFORMANCE METRICS THAT GET PASSED ON TO YOU AND HOPEFULLY THAT HELPS INFORM YOUR DECISIONS AROUND APPROVING OR MAKING CHANGES TO THE BUDGET. WE HAVE RECENTLY STARTED BRINGING SOME OTHER TOOLS AND SKILLS FROM THAT HAVE BEEN TRIED IN OTHER CITIES SO WE RECENTLY LAUNCHED I THINK THAT WE CALLED ESTONIA ACADEMY WHICH IS A TRAINING PROGRAM THAT'S AVAILABLE TO ALL STAFF AT THE CITY IN PERFORMANCE MANAGEMENT TECHNIQUES AND WHAT YOU WOULD RECOGNIZE AS BEING THINGS TO CONCEPTS THAT EXIST IN LEAN AND SIX SIGMA IN OTHER PLACES AND ANYONE AT THE CITY IS ABLE TO EVERY EMPLOYEE OF THE CITY IS ABLE TO SIGN UP AND WE WILL THERE'S A SILVER CERTIFICATION AND A GOLD CERTIFICATION TO TAKE DIFFERENT AMOUNT OF TIME AND OUR HOPE AND EXPECTATION IS THAT THE PEOPLE THAT GO THROUGH THE TRAINING PUT IT IN USE SO WE TRAINED THEM IN HOW TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THERE'S GAPS AND ISSUES, HOW TO DESCRIBE THE ISSUES AND THEN MEASURE THE IMPROVEMENT. HOW DO THEY KNOW I'VE WORKED FOR THE CITY FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS NOW. I'VE NEVER HEARD OF IT. SO HOW HAS IT BEEN ADVERTISED AND HOW IS IT COHESIVE ENOUGH WHERE IF IT'S AD HOC AND YOU WANT TO DO IT YOU CAN AND YOU GO BACK BUT WHERE DOES IT FIT INTO THE OVERALL SCHEME OF HOW DATA IS AND INFORMATION IS SHARED AMONGST ALL DEPARTMENTS AND WITH OTHERS? YEAH YEAH IT'S NEAR I SAID THAT'S WHY YOU HAVEN'T HEARD ABOUT IT. IT'S LIKE LUNCH DID THIS YEAR. IT'S A THIS IS A LIKE IN THIS CALENDAR YEAR IT WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT THAT THAT IT'S BEEN AVAILABLE.  OUR GOAL IS TO TRAIN 300 EMPLOYEES SO WE'VE BEEN EXCEEDING SIGN UPS THAN WHEN WE HAVE CAPACITY SO THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD REFERRALS AND AGAIN WE'RE TRAINING PEOPLE ON HOW TO BE ABLE TO BUILD BETTER EXPERIENCE A LOT OF TIMES THE BEST SOURCE OF KNOWLEDGE ABOUT HOW TO MAKE SOMETHING BETTER. OUR EMPLOYEES WE'RE EXPERIENCING THEY KNOW WHAT'S BROKEN, WHAT WE'RE GIVING THEM IS VOCABULARY TO BE ABLE TO EXPRESS THAT AND THEN BE ABLE TO MEASURE SO THAT THEY CAN MEASURE THE RIGHT THING AND THEN BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE TO PEOPLE WHAT THE IMPACT OF THE IMPROVEMENT IS. THANK YOU.  AND WHEN PEOPLE WORKING FROM A HYBRID SCHEDULE I THINK THIS TOUCHED UPON THIS A LITTLE BIT BUT ARE WE SEEING AN UPTICK IN HARDWARE COSTS, PEOPLE REQUESTING MORE MOBILE PHONES, MORE LAPTOPS, MORE DIFFERENT HARDWARE TO WORK FROM HOME AND IS THAT CAUSING ANY BUDGETARY CONCERNS? SO WE THINK SO. THERE ARE I MEAN BILL DEFERRED THE ACTUAL PIECE OF THE BUDGET FOR THE BUDGET HEARING IF THAT'S OKAY WITH YOU. BUT WHAT I WOULD SAY IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE REALIZED DURING THE PANDEMIC IS BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF THESE INVESTMENTS IN GOVERNANCE THAT A LOT OF DEPARTMENTS ACTUALLY ENDED UP HAVING TWO DEVICES. SO THEY'D HAVE A DESKTOP AT WORK AND THEN A LAPTOP AND THEN THERE'D WOULD BE AND THAT'S INCREDIBLY INEFFICIENT. SO PART OF OUR GOAL IS TO STEM RISING TO LAPTOPS IS THAT WE'RE ENABLING WORK AND ESPECIALLY PEOPLE THAT MIGHT NOT HAVE A LAPTOP AT HOME MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING THAT ISSUE OF EQUITY BUT WE HOPE THAT WE WILL ACTUALLY END UP SAVING MONEY OVERALL BECAUSE WE'RE REDUCING THE TOTAL NUMBER OF AND INCREASING OUR SECURITY BECAUSE THEN WE HAVE TO SECURE ONLY ONE THING NOT SECURE THE TWO. SO YEP THAT CERTAINLY HELPS. I IMAGINE MY TIME'S UP ANY SECOND FOR OUR GUYS.  I'M GOOD. I'M GOOD.  I'M SERIOUS. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS IN REGARDS TO ACCESS TO PUBLIC WI-FI, ARE WE WORKING ON THE SPEED OF THE ACTUAL WI-FI THAT IS PROVIDED AND THEN ALREADY PLANNING ON EXPANDING THE ACCESS TO THE WORK TO THAT WI-FI SUCH AS TRANSIT HUBS OR PUBLIC PARKS?  YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. YEAH, DEFINITELY. WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO MAKE CHANGES AND AGAIN IMPROVEMENT. WE'RE IN THE BUSINESS ALWAYS THINK THAT WE CAN DO WHATEVER WE'RE DOING A LITTLE BIT BETTER AND THEN ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE ALIGNED WITH YASHA AND WITH OTHER MEMBERS OF THE ADMINISTRATION'S THINKING PEOPLE THAT ARE DEPENDING ON TRANSIT THAT MIGHT BE WAITING FOR THE BUS OR TRAIN AND A LOT OF THE LOW INCOME RESIDENTS MIGHT BE HAVING A CELL PHONE OR SOMETHING BUT THEY'RE LACKING A DATA PLAN.  THAT'S WHERE WE WANT TO FOCUS OUR INVESTMENT IN MAKING FREE WI-FI.  SO WE DO PLAN ON INCREASING THE SPEED THIS NOT YET THERE BUT WE ARE WORKING ON BUILDING UP HIGH QUALITY WIFI TO LOOK FOR OTHER LOCATIONS. WE HAVE SOME FUNDING FROM THE STATE TO TRY TO DELIVER THAT AND THEN SOME FUNDING FROM THE COUNCIL FROM THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN AS WELL.  THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT. UM, JUST ONE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT COUNCILOR DURKIN HAS ALSO JOINED US.  COUNCILOR DO YOU WANT TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND YOU HAVE 3 MINUTES FOR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU SO MUCH AND I'M SORRY I'M WALKING INTO THIS BUT I WAS AT THE STATE HOUSE SO REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND ALL THAT YOU BOTH DO. I KNOW WE HAVE A MEETING WITH MY OFFICE SOON SOME TIME TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THESE THINGS AND I APPRECIATE THAT I'M WALKING INTO A CONVERSATION THAT'S ALREADY TAKING PLACE BUT I KNOW YOU KNOW WHAT OFTEN COMES UP IS THE NEED FOR ADVANCED THE LAST YEAR AND WE HAD ON TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCEMENTS TALKS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW NOT A LOT OF OUR ROOMS ARE OUTFITTED FOR ZOOM AND HYBRID MODELS SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HAS BEEN TOUCHED ON YET BUT WE'D LOVE TO GET YOUR TAKE ON ON WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND JUST IN TERMS OF OUR CITY INFRASTRUCTURE WHILE I HAVE YOU CHIEF CRISIS AND OBVIOUSLY THE KING KERRY AT KERRY GORDON SORRY SORRY I DEFERRED THIS ONE TO KERRY BECAUSE HE'S THE ONE WHO'S BEEN ADVISING AND EXECUTING THE PLAN ON HYBRID WORKS.  BUT ONE OF MY EXCITING PROJECTS WAS WAS WORKING WITH PROPERTY MANAGEMENT IN THE OPERATIONS CABINET TO BRING HYBRID CONFERENCE SOLUTIONS TO EACH ROOM. SO WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE SAFE AND SECURE BECAUSE UNLIKE OUR OUR PERSONAL DEVICES THEY'RE ASSIGNED FOR MULTI USE CASE. SO WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE DEPLOYING THE RIGHT TECHNOLOGY AND WE HAVE UNITS I BELIEVE IN THE MONTERO FOR FOR THE COUNCIL BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT OTHER SPACES IN THE CITY TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE HAS THE TOOLS THEY NEED TO DO THEIR JOB AND I THINK THAT'S AN INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT THING AS WE TALK ABOUT WHAT SHOULD BE HYBRID, WHAT SHOULD BE IN-PERSON AND WHAT SHOULD STAY ON ZOOM AND SO I WOULD LOVE TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT CONVERSATION BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF OUR CONSTITUENTS ARE LOOKING FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF MODELS OF MEETINGS AND YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN ABLE TO CONVENE A COUPLE OF DEVELOPMENT CONVERSATIONS IN MY DISTRICT THAT THE BPA IS CONVENING BUT BUT THEY'VE OFTEN HAD LIKE OTHER STAKEHOLDERS AT THE TABLE AND I THINK I'VE OFTEN TRIED TO SAY LIKE WE'RE NOT GOING TO SAY NO TO THAT IN-PERSON MEETING BUT WE'RE GOING TO SAY WHO'S THE HOST OF THAT IN-PERSON MEETING TO TRY TO SORT OF MAKE SURE THAT OUR CONVERSATIONS ARE RELEVANT, YOU KNOW, OR THAT COMMUNITIES THAT ARE MOST IMPACTED SOMETIMES BY DEVELOPMENT ARE HAVE ACCESS TO THOSE ROOMS AND SPACES SO I'M GRATEFUL TO BOTH OF YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO TO MAKE OUR GOVERNMENT ACCESSIBLE . BUT THERE'S ALWAYS MORE WORK TO DO BECAUSE THERE'S ALWAYS NEW CHALLENGES THAT EMERGE. I ALSO WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T MENTION OBVIOUSLY WE'RE THE CITY COUNCIL IS ON FULLY DESKTOP SYSTEMS RIGHT NOW AND I'M JUST CURIOUS IF THERE'S ANY ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT AND THAT WAS MENTIONED BUT WE'RE HAPPY TO SHARE WITH YOU THAT WE ARE STANDARDIZING THIS.  IT IS A TECHNOLOGY FLEET TO HAVE LAPTOPS AND THEN HAVE A CENTER SET UP AND WE'LL WORK WITH YOU GUYS. YOU'LL GET LAPTOPS ON YOURSELF, WE'LL GET LAPTOPS AND AGAIN OUR HOPE IS THAT WE KEEP BUILDING GIVING EVERYONE AT THE CITY NOT JUST THE COUNCIL'S THE RIGHT TOOLS TO DO THEIR JOB THE BEST WAY THAT YOU NEED. SO IF THERE'S FEEDBACK OR ONCE WE START ROLLING OUT THESE NEW TOOLS AND LET US KNOW AND IF IT DOESN'T MEET THE NEED THE FIRST TIME WE'LL TRY TO GET IT. BUT THANK YOU AND IT'S ALL ABOUT ACCESSIBILITY AND FLEXIBILITY AND INNOVATION. SO THANK YOU BOTH FOR LEADING THE CHARGE AND THANK YOU. CHAIR THANK YOU, COUNSELOR.  ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO START WITH OUR SECOND ROUND OF QUESTIONS, STARTING WITH COUNCILOR COLETTE . THANK YOU, CHAIR, AND I APPRECIATE MY COLLEAGUES PARTICIPATION IN THIS HEARING. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT AND I APPRECIATE THEIR THEIR QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS FOLLOWING COUNCILOR BURTON'S QUESTION ABOUT THE FACT THAT I DO IT IS ITS OWN ITS OWN ENTITY. RIGHT? AND THEN YOU HAVE YOUR INDIVIDUAL TECHNOLOGICAL DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE DEPARTMENTS. RIGHT. AND SO IT'S LIKE THIS FEDERATED MODEL THAT WORKS BUT DOESN'T WORK TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU CAN. HAS THERE BEEN ANY INTENT TO AND DO WE NEED TO PROVIDE SOME QUICK REGULATORY FIXES THROUGH EITHER AN EXECUTIVE ORDER AND OR AN ORDINANCE THROUGH THIS COUNCIL THAT WILL ALLOW YOU MORE ACCESS, MORE POWER LIKE WHAT WHAT ARE YOUR CONSTRAINTS TO OVERSEE SOME OF THESE THESE TECH TECHNOLOGY POSITIONS WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT AND DO YOU HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO COME IN AND JUST DO A CLEAN SWEEP AND AND IMPLEMENT SOME OF THESE CHANGES THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT?  YEAH, SOMETHING THAT THIS IN THE TOP OF MIND AGAIN THE RESPONSE THAT I HAD TO GIVE TO COUNCILOR MCGEE IS NOT ONE THAT WE LIKE SAYING TALK TO THIS OTHER PEOPLE WE WANT TO BE IN A POSITION WHERE WE ARE BEING PROACTIVE IN BUILDING THE RIGHT EXPERIENCES REGARDLESS OF WHAT DEPARTMENT OR AGENCY IS DOING THE WORK. SO IT'S WE'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT WHAT ARE THE RIGHT TYPES OF RESOURCES.  JUST SET ASIDE A LITTLE BIT OF AGAIN FOR CONTEXT THE COMMONWEALTH OF MASSACHUSETTS I THINK IS AROUND 2015 2016 CREATED THIS EXECUTIVE OFFICE OF TECHNOLOGY AND SECURITY SERVICES AS IS A UNIFIED GOVERNING BODY TO TRY TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES BETTER CONSTITUENT EXPERIENCE, MORE SECURITY, BETTER INTEROPERABILITY SO THINGS TO LOOK AHEAD AND HOW WE CAN ADDRESS THIS. AND SO IT'S WE'RE THINKING ABOUT IT. OKAY. AND PLEASE CONSIDER US OF COURSE PARTNERS IN THIS WORK. HAPPY TO PUSH THROUGH WHATEVER WE NEED TO GOING BACK TO THE WHAT WORKS CITIES ASSESSMENT I'M SORRY IF I'M IF I'M NOT GETTING THAT WRONG. SO WE RECEIVED THE SILVER CERTIFICATION FROM WHAT WORKS CITIES IN 2018 AND THEN WE JUST ACHIEVED GOLD LAST YEAR SO THAT IS AN IMPROVEMENT IT SHOWED AND SUGGESTED THAT WE WERE STAGNANT FOR FIVE YEARS BEFORE THAT AND SO CLEARLY THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF IMPROVEMENTS DONE WITHIN YOUR DEPARTMENT AND IT SPEAKS TO YOUR LEADERSHIP FOR BOTH OF YOU. THERE WERE A COUPLE OF THINGS FROM THE ASSESSMENT THAT HAVE NOT BEEN MET OR IN PROGRESS AND I'LL JUST REITERATE THEM FOR THE RECORD IF WE WANT TO JUST PROVIDE A GENERAL UPDATE ON WHAT IS AND I KNOW YOU HAVE MULTIPLE PROJECT FLOWS THAT ARE HAPPENING YOU HAVE X AMOUNT OF PROJECTS THAT YOU'RE WORKING ON AND THIS IS ONE OF THEM. BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I'M CURIOUS ABOUT BECAUSE IT SPEAKS TO A LOT OF WHAT OUR PRIORITIES ARE AS AS A COUNCIL BUT FOR EXAMPLE WE'RE WITHIN THIS ASSESSMENT IN TERMS OF NOT MET OR CATEGORIZED IS NOT MET. OUR GOVERNMENT DOESN'T HAVE A PUBLIC FACING DOCUMENTED STANDARD FOR DEVELOPING AND IMPLEMENTING HIGH QUALITY DATA ANALYTICS SERVICES CITYWIDE. WE DON'T HAVE A DOCUMENTED AND IMPLEMENTED COMMITMENT TO THE CITY WIDE USE OF RIGOROUS EVALUATION SHOWS SUCH AS IN EVALUATION OF POLICY AGENDA, BUDGET REQUIREMENT OR FUNDING ALLOCATION. WE DON'T ACTIVELY MANAGE CONTRACTS USING DISAGGREGATED PERFORMANCE DATA TO ACHIEVE DESIRED OUTCOMES.  I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE KNOW THROUGH THE BOSTON RESIDENTS JOBS POLICY AND IT'S A CONSTANT STRUGGLE. WE DON'T SUPPORT EFFORTS TO EDUCATE UPSKILL AND ACTIVATE COMMUNITY MEMBERS BOTH INDIVIDUAL LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS ,CIVIC GROUPS, PLAYSPACE PARTNERS, VENDORS, SERVICE PROVIDERS TO BETTER UNDERSTAND NEW CITY DATA AND ANALYTICS SERVICES TO DEEPEN COMMUNITY IMPACT.  AND I THINK I WANTED TO UPLIFT THE ARTICLE PROCESS AND SEE WHAT YOUR ROLE HAS BEEN IN WORKING IN PARTNERSHIP POTENTIALLY WITH THIS NEW PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO REALLY SHINE A LIGHT ON WHAT THE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK HAS BEEN RIGHT NOW WE ALL KNOW THE PROCESS A PROJECT IS HAPPENING ARTICLE 80 THEY PUT OUT A BROAD CALL. THEY ASK FOR COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK. IT LARGELY GOES INTO THIS BLACK BOX AND THEN I CALL IT THE EVERLASTING GOBSTOPPER MACHINE WHERE THE PDA MAKES CHANGES AND I KNOW THAT THERE IS THAT IS SIMPLIFYING IT TO THE LOWEST TERMS BUT I KNOW A LOT OF WORK HAPPENS BEHIND THE SCENES WITH THE BBVA STAFF MEMBERS BUT ULTIMATELY WE DON'T KNOW HOW THEY SYNTHESIZE THE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK BECAUSE WE DON'T SEE IT AND WE ALSO DON'T COLLECT DEMOGRAPHIC DATA. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR SOCIO ECONOMIC STATUS SO WE DON'T KNOW WHO IS PROVIDING THESE COMMENTS AND I THINK THAT YOUR DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO BE SO KEY IN WHAT WE DO MOVING FORWARD WITH ARTICLE 80 TO TRULY PROVIDE A COMMUNITY PROCESS THAT IS TRANSPARENT AND THEN THEREFORE MORE EQUITABLE FOR THE CITY OF BOSTON. SO I'M WONDERING I SAID A LOT THERE IF YOU HAVE A GENERAL COMMENT BUT SPECIFICALLY AROUND ARTICLE 80 WONDERING IF YOU'VE BEEN LOOPED IN AND WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE. YEAH, I THINK OUR GOAL IS TO ALWAYS BE BETTER. AS YOU POINTED OUT, THERE'S I'M A TYPE-A PERSON WHO WORKED WITH SOME REALLY BRILLIANT TYPE-A PEOPLE SO WE WE WANT TO KEEP GETTING BETTER BEING AT THE GOAL LEVEL FOR THE WHAT WORKS SAID IT MEANS THAT WE'RE LIKE AMONG SOME OF THE TOP CITIES IN THE WORLD IT'S A GLOBAL ASSESSMENT. THERE'S ONLY A FEW THAT ARE HIGHER THAN THAT AT A PLATINUM LEVEL BUT WE HOPE THAT NEXT TIME AROUND I WANT TO KNOW NEW YORK. I KNOW WE'RE GOING AFTER THEM NEW YORK, L.A. SEEMS TO BE A CORRELATION BETWEEN CITY SIZE AND THEN THEIR ABILITY TO GET THE PLATINUM. BUT WE WE HOPE THAT WE KEEP DOING BETTER.  MAYBE THEY'LL INVENT A NEW CATEGORY FOR BOSTON LATER OR THEN THE ROAD WILL GET THE DIAMOND CERTIFICATION.  WE'RE WORKING ON A LOT OF THESE AREAS WE'RE MAKING WORK EITHER WITHIN DO IT OR WITH OUR PARTNERS AND PROCUREMENT WORKING WITH CASEY WILSON BROCK AND WITH LAURA MELODY WHO ARE JUST ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT. SO THERE'S SO MUCH OPPORTUNITY AND SO MUCH WORK TO DO AND THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT WE HAVE TO DO TO KEEP GETTING BETTER.  SO WE WE TAKE THAT AS A CHALLENGE AND HOPEFULLY WE WILL KEEP REPORTING THAT WE'RE AHEAD OF SCHEDULE IN OUR PRODUCT. IT'S NOT ALWAYS TRUE BUT WE'LL TRY IT. THANK YOU SANDY.  THANK YOU, COUNCILOR COUNCILOR FLYNN THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.  AS IT RELATES TO THE BOSTON PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM, ARE YOU WORKING WITH BP US IN THE TRANSPORTATION TEAM THERE TEAM IN TERMS OF TRANSPORTING STUDENTS FROM THEIR ATHLETIC GAMES AFTER SCHOOL AND IF A BUS IS COMING OR IF A BUS IS NOT COMING IN NOT LEAVING KIDS AT THE SCHOOL WAITING FOR THE BUS TO ARRIVE IS THAT A TECHNOLOGY ISSUE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT? WE'VE BEEN WORKING MORE AND MORE CLOSELY WITH BP SO TRY TO SUPPORT THEM AND THEIR NEEDS OBVIOUSLY BE THEY FOLLOW UNDER REGULATION FROM DC AND FROM THERE HAVE RECESS BUT THEY'RE DEFINITELY SLIGHTLY YEAH THE ONE THEY'RE A VERY LARGE DEPARTMENT WITH WITH A NUMBER OF VERY SPECIFIC NEEDS BUT WE WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH THEM ON A NUMBER OF PROJECTS AND THERE'S BEEN SOME WORK AROUND HOW TO IMPROVE THE CONNECTION OF STUDENTS TO YOUTH SPORTS. THERE'S AN AREA OF GREAT CONCERN AND ATTENTION FROM THE FOR MAYOR WU SO WE KEEP WORKING ON TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN HELP AND SUPPORT THEM. SO I'LL GIVE YOU A MORE DETAILED BUT I KNOW THAT'S IN GENERAL AREA WHERE WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH WELL LET ME LET ME ASK A SPECIFIC QUESTION THIS AFTERNOON AT EXCEL HIGH SCHOOL IN SOUTH BOSTON THE ATHLETES THAT PLAYED BASEBALL WERE NOT ABLE TO GET TO THE GAME IN JAMAICA PLAIN BECAUSE THE SCHOOL BUS DIDN'T ARRIVE.  I THINK THE KIDS ENDED UP JUMPING ON THE MTA BUT SO I'M DISAPPOINTED IN THAT AND FRUSTRATED ABOUT THAT. I LET THE SUPERINTENDENT KNOW BUT I GUESS MY QUESTION IS ARE YOU ABLE TO ASSIST PEOPLE SO THAT TYPE OF SITUATION DOESN'T DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN BECAUSE THERE'S A SOLUTION TO IT IF THE BUS IS NOT GOING TO COME AND PICK UP THOSE STUDENTS AT THE CORNER OF THEIR HIGH SCHOOL REGARDLESS OF WHAT NEIGHBORHOOD IT IS, THE PRINCIPAL SHOULD KNOW ABOUT IT SO THE PRINCE PRINCIPAL CAN GO DOWN AND TELL THE KIDS, YOU KNOW YOUR BUS IS NOT GOING TO BE HERE. MAYBE THERE'S ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR A DIFFERENT WAY TO GET YOU TO THE BALLGAME.  YEAH, WE SPECIFICALLY WE DON'T SUPPORT THAT TYPE OF TECHNOLOGY WITH MVPDS WE WORK WITH DPS TO SUPPORT A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT SYSTEMS BUT OUR INTENT AND OUR WORK THE SPIRIT IN WHICH WE WORK WITH SUPERINTENDENT SKIPPER AND WITH HER TEAM IS ONE OF COLLABORATION. SO WE'RE WE'RE HAPPY TO WORK WITH THEM AND TRY TO SUPPORT THEM TO MAKE SURE THE STUDENTS AND PARENTS HAVE A GREAT EXPERIENCE OF IT. BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE AND I IN CHIEF I RESPECT YOU YOU AND YOU'RE A NICE PERSON AND I KNOW IT'S NOT YOUR RESPONSIBILITY BUT THERE HAS TO BE AN IT'S SOLUTION TO NOT TRANSPORTING KIDS FROM THEIR SCHOOL TO AN ATHLETIC FIELD. I DON'T KNOW WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT.  CERTAINLY IT'S BP'S TRANSPORTATION. BUT IS THERE ALSO A BP SITE PERSON THAT SHOULD BE INVOLVED IN THAT CONVERSATION BECAUSE WE CAN'T LEAVE KIDS ON ON THE SIDE OF THE STREET WAITING FOR A BUS IF WE HAVE THE BEST DIGITAL BEST I.T IN THE WORLD PRACTICALLY HERE IN BOSTON BUT WE CAN'T NOTIFY A SCHOOL PRINCIPAL THAT THE BUS IS NOT COMING TO TAKE THESE KIDS FROM ROXBURY OR CHARLESTOWN OR FROM EAST BOSTON TO WEST ROXBURY. WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE AGAIN, I'M I KNOW YOU'RE DOING YOUR BEST AND I RESPECT YOU, BUT WE CAN DO BETTER THAN LEAVING KIDS ON THE STREET IF THERE'S AN I.T. SOLUTION TO IT.  THANK YOU, MR CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR COUNCILOR BREADON.  THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR . MR CHAIR. SO LET'S SEE PROCUREMENT CONTRACTS 311A CONSTITUENT MANAGEMENT SYSTEM HOSTING SERVICES AND IMPLEMENTATION OF WHEN IS THAT THAT THAT'S REALLY TO UPGRADE THE 311 SYSTEM HOW IT IS PROBLEMATIC SO HOW LONG SO YOU PUT IT OUT TO BID IN JANUARY HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO GET A NEW SYSTEM IN PLACE AND THEN GET EVERYONE TRAINED ON IT? YES, THAT IS A MAJOR EFFORT THEN IT ALIGNS WITH EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BUILDING A GREAT EXPERIENCE FOR CONSTITUENTS BUILD INTEGRATING WITH DATA WITH THE DATA SYSTEMS THAT TELL US ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE ARE CALLING ABOUT. SO WE ARE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF REVIEWING THE THE RESPONSES TO THE RFP AND DOING OUR SELECTION.  IT'S A SYSTEM THAT I'M THANKS FOR YOUR SUPPORT WE EXPECT TO KEEP FOR AT LEAST TEN YEARS. IT'S JUST BECAUSE THE IMPLEMENTATION COSTS ARE GOING TO BE SO EXPENSIVE AND THE AMOUNT OF TIME AND ENABLEMENT THAT WILL TAKE.  SO WE'RE TAKING OUR TIME SELECTING WE THINK THAT AROUND THIS SUMMER TIME WE'LL PICK THE NEW VENDOR AND WE THINK THAT WE WILL BE TRANSITIONING TO THE NEW SYSTEM OVER A PERIOD OF 18 MONTHS. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN LEARNING FROM OUR PAST CHALLENGES PAST CHALLENGES IS INSTEAD OF TRYING TO SWITCH EVERYTHING AT THE SAME TIME WE'LL BE WORKING ON SWITCHING SERVICES AT A TIME AND THEN KEEPING IN MIND SOME OF THE THE SPIRIT OF WHAT COUNCILOR FERNANDES HENDERSON SAID TRYING TO BUILD THE SYSTEM THAT IS ABLE TO KEEP GETTING BETTER AND KEEP BUILDING NEW FUTURE. SO THAT'S ROUGHLY THE TIMELINE. SO I THINK THAT THE FIRST STEP IN WHERE WE SPEND A LOT OF THE TIME THE FIRST HALF OF THIS FISCAL YEAR WAS STAFFING AND HIRING AND BUILDING THE TEAM TO BE ABLE TO DO THE PROJECT AND NOW WE'RE IN PROCUREMENT AND SO AGAIN I THINK THAT BY 2026 IT SEEMS SO FAR AWAY BUT WILL COME FASTER THAN WE THINK WE'LL HAVE THE NEW SYSTEM FULLY COMMISSIONED. THANK YOU. AND THEN I'M ALSO LOOKING YOU HAVE A WE COMMISSIONED AN I.T SERVICES AND PRODUCTS ASSESSMENT IN NOVEMBER OF 2022 THAT LOOKED AT ASSESSMENT WILL COVER ALL OF THE AGENCIES ASSOCIATED QUASI GOVERNMENT AND GOVERNMENTAL AGENCIES INCLUDING BPT A BOSTON PUBLIC HEALTH HOUSING VHA BOSTON PUBLIC SCHOOLS POLICE DEPARTMENT PUBLIC LIBRARIES WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO GET AS LIVE REPORT AVAILABLE WOULD BE IS IT GOOD READING?  I THINK IT'S INFORMATIVE BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE BIG CHALLENGES AS WE HAVE SO MANY DIFFERENT ENTITIES THAT DON'T REALLY SPEAK TO EACH OTHER. YOU KNOW THAT'S WHY WE HAVE PROBLEMS SOMETIMES. YEAH. SO THE REPORT IS NOT FINALIZED YET.  THE NUMBERS THAT I READ TO COUNCILOR COLETTE AS QUESTION ARE DATA THAT CAME OUT OF THE REPORT BUT ONCE IT'S PUBLISHED WILL SHARED WITH THE COUNCIL AND MAKE SURE THAT IF YOU WANT TO READ IT AND HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT IT WE HAVE STARTED WE DIDN'T WAIT FOR THE ANSWER TO START DOING THINGS ABOUT IT. SO AGAIN WE'VE STARTED TO HAVE REGULAR MEETINGS WITH I.T LEADERS FROM SCHOOLS,  LIBRARIES, POLICE AND OTHER UNITS THAT WE'VE STARTED TO BUILD A LOT OF RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE ANTICIPATED BUT THE REPORT'S UPCOMING ROLE WE'LL LET YOU GUYS KNOW WHEN WHEN IT'S AVAILABLE.  THINK GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR SO MUCH HAS GONE CHANGE COUNCILOR ANDERSON THANK OF HIS CHAIR OVER OVERALL WHAT WOULD YOU SAY IS YOUR BIGGEST CHALLENGES RIGHT NOW IN TERMS OF IMPROVING COMMUNICATIONS BETWEEN DEPARTMENTS?  YEAH, I MEAN IT'S THIS IS A LARGE COMPLEX BUREAUCRACY SINCE I'M SENSE LIKE THE TECHNOLOGY AND THE SYSTEMS ARE THERE TO SUPPORT A PROCESS AND SUPPORT AN EXPERIENCE SO MUCH.  WE ARE A CITY THAT HAS BEEN AROUND FOR LONGER THAN THE U.S. SO LIKE SOMETIMES THERE'S LIKE THIS INGRAINED PRACTICES AND WAYS THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT SOMETIMES ARE NOT EVEN DOCUMENTED. SO JUST LIKE ORGANIZATIONAL CHANGE MANAGEMENT BUT WE'RE LUCKY TO HAVE A GREAT MAYOR AND A MAYOR THE IMPRESSION FORCES ALL OF US TO THINK ABOUT EMBRACING THE POSSIBILITIES SO IT HELPS BUT IT IS AGAIN I WOULD SAY BUREAUCRACY THE COMPLEXITY OF THE BUREAUCRACY. WHAT WE DISCUSS EARLIER, THE LACK OF FLAHERTY AROUND WHO IS SUPPOSED TO BE MAKING WHAT DECISIONS AND THAT THAT'S ALSO STAFFING AND STAFFING IS DIFFICULT TO YOU KNOW, MAYBE IF WE CAN IMPROVE THAT WE'LL FIGURE OUT WHO'S SUPPOSED TO MAKE DECISIONS.  SO I GUESS IS 311 BACKED UP BY A DATABASE WHERE ALL DEPARTMENTS CAN ACCESS YES THREE ON ONE IS BACKED UP BY A SYSTEM WHICH WILL REPLACING AND ACTUALLY ALL OF THE DATA IS PUBLIC.  YOU CAN ACCESS IT THROUGH THE OPEN DATA PORTAL. I TOOK THEM OUT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM IN MY DISTRICT. IT'S ON OUR WEBSITE.  WHAT I AM ASKING THOUGH IT'S THAT SO IF EVERYBODY'S COMMUNICATING ON ONE IN ONE PLACE SO LIKE PUBLIC WORKS ESD AND IF IT CONNECTS TO D THEY CAN ALL ACCESS THAT SAME INQUIRY IN ONE SYSTEM PERFECT. IT'S JUST MISSING THE COUNCILOR I GUESS SO WE CAN SEE WHERE TO THAT. WHERE'S THAT AND WE COULD JUST TELL THEM AS OPPOSED TO BOMBARDING EVERYBODY WITH EMAILS WE WILL TAKE YOUR POINT AS A FOLLOW UP ITEM AGAIN JUST A CHECKBOX. YES, WE ARE OKAY WITH COUNCILORS IN TERMS OF PARKING DO YOU CAN WE IMPROVE THE APP IN OUR YOU KNOW THE APP WHERE YOU GO YOU PARK PAY CAN WE IMPROVE THE APP SO THAT THERE'S LIKE SPATIAL MAPPING AND IT SHOWS YOU EXACTLY WHAT'S AVAILABLE SO SOME MIT STUDENTS HAVE CREATED SOMETHING LIKE THIS NOT SURE HOW SUCCESSFUL IT WAS IN THE OTHER CITIES THAT THEY REFERENCED BUT WHAT DO YOU THINK? OH, I AM SURE THERE'S VERY SMART PEOPLE OUT THERE OR HOPEFULLY HIRING SOME OF THEM BUT SO THIS IS GOES TO THE POINT OF THE ORIGINAL PART OF THE PRESENTATION AND WE'RE IN A PATH TO GET THERE. I WAS JUST LIKE THE FIRST PART THAT WE NEEDED TO BE DOING LIVE UPDATES OF WHAT'S AVAILABLE IS LIKE VERY DIFFICULT BECAUSE YOU NEED TO HAVE SENSORS OR SOME WAY OF LIKE ASSESSING IT'S EXPENSIVE, VERY EXPENSIVE BUT WE'RE MOVING TOWARDS THE POINT THAT WE AT LEAST WILL BE ABLE TO SAY WHAT REGULATIONS APPLY AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME WHICH IS I THINK THAT THE ORIGINAL SPIRIT THAT COUNCILOR COLETTA WAS INQUIRING. SO WE'RE MAKING MOVES IN THAT DIRECTION AGAIN, WE'RE WORKING CLOSELY WITH BTV AND OTHERS AS THEY THINK ABOUT THEIR TECHNOLOGY, HOW TO GET THERE BECAUSE WE HAVE DIFFERENT VENDORS AND DIFFERENT PIECES AND WE DON'T WANT THAT TO BE THE THING THAT KEEPS US FROM DELIVERING A GREAT EXPERIENCE. LAST QUESTION BECAUSE I KNOW THAT TIME AND I SPOKE BEFORE THE TIME GOT IT. YOU GOT IT. THANK YOU.  THANK YOU. I'M NOT AS GOOD AS FITZGERALD COUNCILOR FITZGERALD THE OH GOSH NO THAT I DO I LOVE IT.  I LOST IT. IT'S FAST AND BRAIN OH YES I REMEMBER SO KERRY, I KNOW THAT YOU'RE HELPING OUR OFFICE WITH THIS BUT IT'S TAKING A LONG TIME AND LAST YEAR I PASSED AN ORDINANCE TO ACTUALLY PUBLICIZE OUR VOTING RECORDS.  BUT NOT ONLY VOTING RECORDS ACTUAL MAPS OF CONSTITUENTS LIKE DISTRICTS SORRY CIVIC ASSOCIATIONS WITHIN DISTRICT AND THEN CONSTITUENTS WOULD JUST BE LIKE NOT JUST WHICH WHAT DISTRICT AM I IN BUT WHAT CIVIC ASSOCIATION I BELONG TO AND THEN DROPDOWN MENU THAT SHOW YOU WHERE YOU BELONG OR DROPPED OUT MANY TO SHOW YOU LIKE PROJECTS BUDGET DELIVERABLES, POLICIES THAT WE'RE WORKING ON NOT JUST WHAT WE FILE BUT OUR VOTING RECORD AND IT DIED BECAUSE THE MAYOR SAID HEY YOU DON'T NEED ME TO DO THIS AND YOU'RE TELLING US TO DO SOMETHING THAT YOU DON'T NEED ME TO DO. I STILL THINK IT NEEDED TO BE A MANDATE BECAUSE THEN THE COUNCILS ARE BUSY AND WE WON'T DO IT. BUT DO WE NEED OUR OWN STAFF TO DO THAT OR DO YOU HAVE THE CAPACITY TO HELP US DO THAT? BECAUSE I'M VERY INTERESTED IN AT LEAST SETTING PRECEDENTS WITH MY OR WITH MY SITE WITHIN BOSTON. DOUG GOV SO LAST PAGE SORRY . YEAH NO I'D BE HAPPY TO. WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THAT AND WE ARE.  THANK YOU. THE DELAY PARTIALLY COMES BECAUSE WE ARE WANTING TO DO THIS IN A WAY THAT IS EXTRAORDINARILY EXTRAORDINARILY ACCESSIBLE SO WE WILL WE WILL REPORT TO YOU TO THE COUNCIL SOON ABOUT WHAT THE IMPROVEMENTS BASED ON THE FEEDBACK THAT YOU REQUESTED TO A POINT WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THE EXPERIENCE OF THE SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE BETTER SO WE APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK THAT YOU GIVE US FANTASTIC.  THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR COUNCILOR FITZGERALD THANK YOU, CHAIR CALLED SANITIZERS WERE SAVED BY SOME OF MY STAFF ACTUALLY WE DID DO A FOR THE CIVIC GROUPS WHERE EACH ONE REPRESENTS IN THE BOUNDARIES IT DOES AND WE GAVE IT TO THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE SO THEY KNEW THAT IF SOME TRAUMATIC EVENT OCCURRED THAT THEY KNEW WHICH CIVIC GROUP THEY SHOULD GO TO TO FOLLOW UP WITH TO CHECK IN ON THE FOLKS OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD TO SEE WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT THING THAT WE SHOULD ALL DO AND DISPERSE AS MUCH AS WE CAN SO OTHER AGENCIES AND GOVERNMENTS KNOW WHAT THEY NEED TO DO WHEN SOMETHING HAPPENS IN THAT AREA. I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA FOLKS. SORRY , DOES THE CITY HAVE I THINK THE LAST ONE THAT WAS DONE RIGHT, THEY DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE A CURRENT ONE BUT IT HAD SOME SORT OF A STRATEGIC PLAN. RIGHT. I THINK THE LAST ONE WAS DONE IN LIKE 2010 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND I'M DATING MYSELF HERE . RIGHT. BUT IS THERE SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN THE WORKS WHERE AND I THINK IT'S BENEFICIAL TO BOTH OF US WHERE WE CAN FOLLOW ALONG WE KNOW WHAT YOUR STRATEGIC TO YOUR INITIATIVES ARE, THE GOALS THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO HIT AND AND WE COULD SORT OF FOLLOW ALONG IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN WHERE WE DON'T ALWAYS HAVE TO CALL YOU IN FOR HEARINGS EVERY TIME. RIGHT. AND WE CAN JUST JUST CHECK OUT THE PLAN AS WE GO ALONG AND SEE HOW YOU GUYS ARE DOING. IS THERE SOMETHING LIKE THAT BEING DONE STILL OR IS THAT SOMETHING IN THE WORKS? I HONESTLY I DON'T KNOW. THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING. YEAH, I'D SAY IT'S ALWAYS A PLEASURE AND AN HONOR TO PRESENT TO THE COUNCIL SO WE'RE HAPPY TO SHARE BUT WE DID PUBLISH A STRATEGIC PLAN LAST YEAR. OKAY IT IS BUSAN DOT GOV SLASH DO IT STRATEGY.  IT'S A VERY SHORT DOCUMENT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO EMBRACE AGAIN MORE OF THE NOTION OF HAVING A TRUE NORTH DIRECTION THAT WE'RE GOING AND EMBRACING SOME METHODOLOGIES THAT SOME WOULD SAY ARE MORE MODERN BEST PRACTICES LIKE AGILE AND DEVOPS. SO WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO BUILD INCREMENTALLY USING FEEDBACK THAT WE GET FROM USERS INCLUDING THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS, OUR WORKFORCE. SO YOU'LL FIND THIS STRATEGIC PLAN THERE AND THEN HOPEFULLY WE CAN KEEP UPDATING WITH THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING AND THEN WITH AGAIN LIKE THE RESULTS OF THIS ASSESSMENT THAT WE WILL FINALIZE IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS WE'LL POSTED THERE SO THAT YOU GUYS CAN SEE IT.  BUT I'M HAPPY TO KEEP SHARING WITH YOU ALL ABOUT OUR PROGRESS AND OUR DIRECTION. GREAT. THANK YOU. I'LL SET YOU THANK COUNCILOR COUNCILMAN HERE.  SO I'M JUST CURIOUS I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO INFRASTRUCTURE SINCE THIS IS THE AND MY COLLEAGUE HAD ASKED THE QUESTION ABOUT YOU ARE HAVING SOME AUTONOMY AND HAVING YOUR OWN DEPARTMENT AND BEING ABLE TO. THAT'S RIGHT. I REMEMBER COUNCIL ASKED SO I'M JUST CURIOUS HAVE YOU STARTED THOSE CONVERSATIONS ALREADY WITH THE ADMINISTRATION AND HAVE WE STARTED EXPLORING THAT AND THAT'S LIKE I'M ALWAYS CURIOUS ABOUT HOW WE END UP IN CERTAIN SPACES IN PLACES. SO JUST CURIOUS IF YOU COULD JUST PROVIDE SOME CONTEXT TO TO THAT BUT I THINK YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. AGAIN AS YOU EXPERIENCE YOURSELF THE LAST ROUND OF QUESTIONS A LOT OF TIMES WHEN WE THINK THAT TWO SYSTEMS SHOULD TALK TO EACH OTHER THAT SOMETHING SHOULD BE INTEGRATED IT IS NOT ENTIRELY CLEAR WHO IS ABLE TO CALLED THE SHOTS OR MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN AND WHEN YOU HAVE SUCH A LARGE AND COMPLEX CITY THAT MAKES THINGS DIFFICULT AND AT THE WORST WHEN THERE'S A SECURITY INCIDENT AND YOU NEED TO CONTAIN SOMETHING MAKES IT COMPLICATED BUT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON BUILDING TRUST AND RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND THE DIFFERENT TECHNOLOGY GROUPS BECAUSE I THINK THAT AS WE BUILD THIS WHAT WE DON'T WANT IS TO MAKE PEOPLE FEEL LIKE THEY'LL LOSE CONTROL. THERE'S LIKE YOU KNOW, THERE'S A SENSE OF CONVENIENCE AND THERE'S A REASONS WHY WE BUILD THE WAY THAT WE BUILD. SO WE'VE BEEN LISTENING A LOT TALKING AND BUILDING TRUST WITH THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS AND AGENCIES AND WE HOPE THAT AS WE DO THE ASSESSMENT THEN WE START GETTING A BETTER SENSE OF WHAT THE OPPORTUNITY LOOKS LIKE THAT WILL MAYBE COME TO YOU WITH SOME REQUESTS FOR HELPING US STRAIGHTEN SOME OF THE PIECES THAT MIGHT BE MISSING. YEAH, NO I'M ALWAYS I'M A VERY I'M A PROCESS PERSON AND I ALWAYS LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THE THREAD OF HOW WE END UP IN CERTAIN SPACES AND PLACES. SO IN COUNCIL COLETTA SUGGESTS THAT SUCH I WAS JUST CURIOUS OF THOSE THINGS AND HOW THEY MANIFEST AND HOW THEY END UP IN THE CHAMBER AND THEN HOW THEY QUICKLY GET THROUGH THE PROCESS. SO JUST REALLY JUST CURIOUS SO AND KERRY, I JUST WANT TO LIKE THANK YOU BECAUSE IN 2020 IT WAS MY FIRST YEAR HERE ON THE COUNCIL AND NOT EVEN THREE MONTHS AFTER COMING IN WE HAD TO GO REMOTE AND YOU SINGLEHANDEDLY CREATED AN ENVIRONMENT FOR US TO BE ABLE TO DO SO SUCCESSFULLY AND NONE OF US KNEW WHAT THE WORLD YOU WERE GETTING INTO. SO I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP HERE WHILE YOU WERE STILL WITH US AND I'M INCREDIBLY ENCOURAGED THAT YOU ON THE OTHER SIDE BECAUSE I KNOW YOU ARE GOING TO BRING A LITTLE BIT OF THAT WITH YOU AND YOU HAVE SO I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT WHILE I'M SPEAKING OF DIGITAL DEMOCRACY, I'M CURIOUS IN TERMS OF INFRASTRUCTURE I KNOW WE HAVE OUR OFFICE BECAUSE WE PASSED THAT LANGUAGE ACCESS ORDINANCE. WE WERE ONE OF THE FIRST OFFICES TO HOST THE FIRST HEARING IN MULTIPLE LANGUAGES AND THEY WERE BEING TRANSLATED SIMULTANEOUSLY AND IT WAS A BIG DEAL FOR THE COUNCIL FOR US TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND I'M CURIOUS I KNOW FROM A BUDGET PERSPECTIVE BUT I KNOW THAT IT DOES COST BUT I'M CURIOUS FROM A INFRASTRUCTURE IF THAT BECOMES A NORM OR IF IT COULD BECOME A NORM, WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE IN ORDER FOR US TO BE ABLE TO REALLY MEET THAT CAPACITY?  WELL I'D JUST LIKE TO START BY SAYING THANK YOU. 2020 WAS DEFINITELY INTERESTING INTERESTING TIME FOR ALL OF US AND I WAS HAPPY TO WORK WITH THE CENTRAL STAFF OF THE CITY COUNCIL ONCE A COUNCIL MEMBER ALL OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS.  SO I'M ALWAYS LOOKING FORWARD TO FINDING WAYS WE CAN BETTER SUPPORT AND IMPROVE THE SERVICES THAT WE OFFER TO THE COUNCIL AS WELL IN THIS SPACE. YOU KNOW WE'RE DEFINITELY EXPLORING WHAT THE TECHNOLOGY OPPORTUNITIES ARE OUT THERE AND FIGURING OUT WAYS AND AREAS WHERE WE CAN RESPOND ONTO THE NEEDS THAT YOU'RE ASKING. DEFINITELY A WORK IN PROGRESS.  AND I'LL JUST SAY LASTLY THAT WE THAT I AM FROM THE SCHOOL OF THOUGHT OR AT LEAST YOU KNOW I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT IS CHIEF IS LIKE FOR YOU BOTH LIKE THE MORE I KNOW IN WHAT YOU NEED THE BETTER I CAN ADVOCATE RIGHT BECAUSE I CAN HAVE 101 THINGS THAT I BELIEVE WE ALL SHOULD BE DOING BUT YEAH LIKE THAT A LITTLE EVEN FAR WITHIN MY SCOPE. RIGHT SO COMMUNICATION IS KEY SO THE MORE THAT I KNOW ESPECIALLY AS WE MOVE TOWARDS OTHER MORE INTERESTING PROCESSES THAT ARE GOING TO BE HAPPENING AFTER APRIL THE 10TH, I'D LOVE TO HEAR SPECIFIC FROM YOU ALL AND WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR AND HOW WE CAN BE OF SERVICE.  SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY.  THANK YOU. COUNCILOR COUNCILOR DURKIN,  THANK YOU SO MUCH.  I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WAS COVERED YET BUT I JUST THOUGHT I'D BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T MENTION IT BECAUSE IT WAS MENTIONED IN A IN ANOTHER HEARING AROUND THAT SORT OF THE CITY'S TECHNOLOGICAL STRUCTURE IN TERMS OF WHAT KNOWING EXACTLY HOW ARE SORRY TO DESCRIBE THIS IN THE BEST WAY FOR BASICALLY OUR CITY PROPERTIES MATCH THE DATABASES THAT ALREADY EXIST AND INCREASE IT BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'RE NOT ABLE TO PLACE LIENS ON PROPERTIES AND FINES AND IT'S JUST CONSTANT.  THE CONVERSATION IS CONSTANTLY BEING SHOVED TO DO IT BUT WE HAVEN'T HAD A CONVERSATION WITH DO IT ABOUT HOW NECESSARILY TO TO MAKE SURE THAT THE RESOURCES ARE NECESSARY AND OR THAT WE OR THAT WE HIRE THE RIGHT VENDOR TO CREATE THAT PROGRAM THAT WOULD SCRUB FROM ANOTHER DATABASE ONLINE. I'M JUST CURIOUS ON YOUR END CHIEF GASPS WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AND I'M SORRY IF SOMEONE ALREADY COVERED THIS BUT BUT JUST HOW WE CAN ADVOCATE FOR THAT GIVEN THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF PROBLEM PROPERTIES IN OUR CITY AND IT'S OF URGENT NEED AND COUNCILOR BRITTON SOMEONE HAS REALLY LED ON THIS AND FORMER COUNCILOR BOK AND OBVIOUSLY I HAVE MY OWN MISSION HELP PROBLEM PROPERTY TASK FORCE IN MY DISTRICT SO TRYING TO FIGURE OUT LIKE HOW I CAN INTERACT WITH WITH THAT AND THE CONVERSATION AROUND LEANS YEAH YEAH WE DISCUSSED BRIEFLY WE'RE LEARNING ABOUT THE SOME OF THE ISSUES AROUND SO I CAN GIVE YOU LIKE A MORE GENERIC ANSWER I GUESS LIKE WE JUST HEARD ABOUT SOME OF THE ISSUES AND WE'LL FOLLOW UP TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND HOW WHAT THE OPPORTUNITY IS SO TO DRIVE IMPROVEMENTS ARE.  BUT GENERALLY ONE OF THE BIG AREAS OF FOCUS FOR US HAS BEEN MAKING IMPROVEMENT AS TO WHAT WE WOULD THINK ABOUT LIKE ENTERPRISE DATA ASSETS. SO A RECORD OF THE ADDRESSES, A RECORD OF PROPERTIES, WHO OWNS THEM, THEIR VALUE, A RECORD OF ASSETS, A RECORD OF STREETS . THIS IS LIKE FUNDAMENTAL. IT UNDERPINS EVERYTHING SO IT SEEMS THAT THERE'S SOME OPPORTUNITY AROUND COLLECTING AND AND GETTING INFORMATION OUT FROM THE REGISTRAR OF DEEDS AROUND THE WHO OWNS A PROPERTY AT A PARTICULAR POINT IN TIME WHEN IT WAS BROUGHT UP IN A HEARING THIS MORNING THAT ARLENE HADN'T BEEN PLACED ON A PROPERTY SINCE 2016 SO OBVIOUSLY FOR SOME OF HER PROBLEM PROPERTIES I MEAN WE WERE PARTICULARLY TALKING ABOUT TRASH BUT THERE'S SO MANY OTHER REASONS THAT WE WOULD I I'VE HAD A COUPLE OF GRAFFITI ISSUES IN MY DISTRICT THAT HAVE JUST REAPPEARED AND REAPPEARED.  I'VE I'VE BEEN PART OF CLEARING GRAFFITI OFF OF SOMETHING THREE TIMES. I THINK THEY SHOULD HAVE A LEAN ON THEIR PROPERTY AND I HEARD THAT IT COSTS YOU KNOW, THIS PARTICULAR ONE THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT COSTS $15,000 A POP. WHY AREN'T WE PASSING THAT? YOU KNOW, THAT COSTS ON TO SOMEONE ELSE OR OR IN THE FORM OF A LEAD OR AREN'T WE DETERRING PEOPLE FROM CONTINUING TO BE BAD LANDLORD?  SO I HOPE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO CONVENE A CONVERSATION WITH DO IT AND ALL THE NECESSARY BECAUSE I DO THINK THIS IS PART OF LIKE THE TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCEMENTS THAT WE NEED TO DO THAT OR WHAT WE NEED TO ACCOMPLISH EVERYTHING ELSE SO THERE'S DEFINITELY WORK TO BE DONE AGAIN AS WE BUILD AND MODERNIZE THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT EXISTED THAT JUST NEED TO BE MODERNIZED AND THEN SOME GAPS AND THINGS THAT WE NEED TO BUILD TO HAVE THAT OF INFORMATION FLOW BETWEEN OUR SYSTEM OF RECORD ASSESSING AND ALSO THE THE DATA THE PERMITTING AND LICENSING SYSTEMS THAT ACTUALLY RUN CODE ENFORCEMENT USE.  SO AND WE HAVE SOME I WOULD JUST ADD WE HAVE SOME GREAT CODERS AND INCREDIBLE MINDS AT BHP'S TRANSPORTATION SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS CAN INTERSECT OR HAVE SOME SORT OF CONVERSATION BUT THEY'RE DOING SOME REALLY INCREDIBLE STUFF OVER THERE AND I KNOW THAT WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING TO, YOU KNOW, INNOVATE AND IT'S PART OF WHAT'S MAKING US A GREAT CITY AS WE HAVE SO MANY CITY DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE DOING INCREDIBLE WORK. SO JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THEM BECAUSE I SAW WHAT THEIR I DID A TOUR AND I SAW WHAT THEY WERE DOING. SO THANK YOU BOTH. THANK YOU COUNCILOR THIRD ROUND OF QUESTIONS BECAUSE I WANT TO HAVE QUESTIONS.  OKAY YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. OKAY I'LL DO ONE MORE ROUND. COUNCILOR CLUTTERBUCK THANK CHAIR AND I WILL BE QUICK I PROMISE. IT'S ALMOST 2 HOURS BUT OBVIOUSLY THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I CARE ABOUT.  SO THINKING ABOUT THE ASSESSMENT THE ENTIRE ASSESSMENT OF INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENTS WHICH DEPARTMENTS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED ALREADY, HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE AND WHEN WILL BE WHEN WILL WE BE DONE? WE ALSO DISCUSSED THE FACT THAT YOU HIRED FOUR BUSINESS RELATIONSHIP MANAGERS WHICH IS GREAT SO CONGRATULATIONS.  IT IS HARD TO RECRUIT AND RETAIN QUALIFIED SKILLED INDIVIDUALS WITHIN THIS FIELD BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THEY COULD SECURE THE BAG IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR MORE SO THAN THEY COULD HERE IN GOVERNMENT. SO WONDERING IF THERE'S BEEN ANY CHALLENGES TRYING TO ATTRACT FOLKS AND THEN YEAH,  WHY DON'T WE START THERE AND THEN WE'LL GO INTO I HAVE TWO MORE QUESTIONS AFTER THAT. YEAH, WE AGAIN THE WAY THAT WE APPROACHED THE ASSESSMENT WAS TRYING TO MORE THAN AN IN-DEPTH ANALYSIS OF EACH DEPARTMENT. IT'S JUST LIKE TRYING TO EVEN DOCUMENT THAT UNDERSTAND WHAT THE LANDSCAPE LOOKS LIKE BECAUSE IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WERE MISSING.  SO WE HAVE INFORMATION ABOUT I THINK ALL THE DEPARTMENTS AND AGENCIES EVEN THE CLASS SIZE BECAUSE WE AGAIN AS SOMEONE WHO WAS NEW AT THIS GAME WHEN I FIRST STARTED IS LIKE I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT DEPARTMENTS WE'RE CONNECTED TO LIKE IF WHAT ARE WE RESPONSIBLE FOR IF SOMETHING FAILS AND IS NOT WRITTEN SO WE THE GOOD THING SINCE LIKE THE ASSESSMENT WILL GIVE US IN A SENSE OF LIKE HOW THIS DIFFERENT THIS 14 DIFFERENT GROUPS THAT DO IT HOW THEY'RE STAFF WHAT ARE THE SKILLS WHAT ARE THEY COVERING? ARE THEY COVERING ENDPOINT DEVICES? ARE THEY ACTUALLY DOING DATA ANALYSIS OR THE SUPPORTING AN APPLICATION? SO WE GOT I THINK ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS AGENCIES OF THE CITY AND AGAIN I THINK THAT THE REPORT WILL BE FINALIZED IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS LIKE WE HAVE ALREADY A LOT OF THE PRELIMINARY RESULTS THAT JUST NEED TO BE FINALIZED WITH THE CONSULTANT AND MAKE IT PUBLIC.  AND YOUR SECOND QUESTION HOW ARE WE DOING WITH HIRING FOLKS ? HIRING FOLKS LOOK, WE'VE BEEN SPENDING A LOT OF TIME AND BEING VERY INTENTIONAL WITH MY TEAM. WE MEET EVERY TWO WEEKS TO TALK ABOUT ALL OF THE VACANCIES AND WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD THE REALLY DIVERSE AND SKILLED WORKPLACE AND IT IS DIFFICULT AS YOU POINTED OUT THE STARTING SALARY IT AND TECHNOLOGY JOBS ARE THE SECOND BEST JOBS IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR AFTER DOCTOR AND MEDICAL YOU KNOW LIKE THE MEDICAL FIELD. SO WE AND THEN THERE'S THE RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT THAT A LOT OF TIMES LIKE PEOPLE THAT HAVE THESE SKILLS DON'T LIVE WITHIN THE CITY SO WE'RE I THINK THAT WE'VE BEEN MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND WE HAVE LESS VACANCIES AND IT IS TOUGH AND BUT YEAH THERE'S AGAIN THE RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT THERE'S A IT'S DIFFICULT PARTICULARLY WITH THESE LIKE VERY TECHNICAL JOBS BUT WE'RE WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WE HIRED OUR FIRST CHIEF OF ENGINEERING AND ARCHITECTURE SO LIKE BRINGING SOMEONE WITH THE EXPERTISE TO MANAGE ALL THE TECHNICAL INTEGRATION AND ALL THESE SYSTEMS. SO IT'S A THANK YOU AND I WILL JUST OFFER A SUGGESTION QUICKLY. CHAIR I JUST WENT TO CHARLESTOWN HIRED AND WAS A PART OF THEIR ENTREPRENEURIAL FAIR AND A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT I GET ARE HOW CAN WE ATTRACT INNOVATION AND CREATIVITY AND FOLKS THAT ARE GOING TO BE BOLD?  THE TALENT IS RIGHT HERE IN BOSTON. IT'S IN OUR HIGH SCHOOLS AND SO THERE'S A TRACK IN CHARLESTOWN HIGH WHERE THEY CREATE THEIR OWN APPS LIKE THESE ARE KIDS THAT ARE GOING TO BE MAKING WAY MORE MONEY THAN ANY OF US SAME DAY. AND SO JUST LOOK TO OUR HIGH SCHOOLS, LOOK TO BUNKER HILL COMMUNITY COLLEGE IN THAT PATHWAY WHICH IS IT'S NOT DO ENROLLMENT BUT IT'S EARLY COLLEGE AND I LOOK FORWARD TO REVIEWING THAT REPORT AND THEN ALSO WHAT YOUR PRIORITY TO EMBED INTO THIS BUDGET IF YOU CAN CHOOSE ONE THING JUST QUICKLY I'LL WAIT UNTIL THE MAYOR FINALIZES THE BUDGET FOR US. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.  THANK YOU. BUT COUNCILOR COUNCILOR BREADON ,THANK YOU.  I'M JUST CURIOUS DOES THE ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES DEPARTMENT STILL EXIST BECAUSE IT USED TO HOUSE HUMAN RESOURCES, FINANCE AND PROCUREMENT FUNCTIONS AND DO IT WHICH USED TO BE CALLED MANAGEMENT INFORMATION SERVICES AND MS. UNTIL 2014 WAS WITHIN ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES AND PROVIDE CENTRAL SERVICES TO ALL DEPARTMENTS. I'M JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN LITTLE RESTRUCTURING OF OUR BUREAUCRATIC EDIFICE AND AND WONDERED LIKE HAS THAT DOES THAT DEPARTMENT EVEN EXIST ANYMORE AND THIS MIGHT BE HISTORIC ACKNOWLEDGED GOOGLE DIVE DIG HERE BUT IT'S GONE BACK TO 2014 SO ONLY TEN YEARS AGO IT IS A IT IS A I I BELIEVE THAT THAT CONSTRICTS STILL EXISTS AND AGAIN UP TO SOME POINT WHAT WE DISCUSSED IN TERMS OF FUNCTIONS AND LIKE ORDINANCES THERE'S NOTHING THAT DESCRIBES EVEN WHAT AMAZON'S RESPONSIBILITIES WERE IN THE CODE OF ORDINANCES. I KNOW BECAUSE I'M A PROGRAMMER SO THE FIRST THING THAT I DO WHEN I GET TO A NEW CITY IS I TRY TO READ THE CODE TO SEE WHAT THAT PIECE IS MISSING SO I WOULD DEFER TO IDR AND TO OTHERS THAT CAN GIVE YOU THE MORE ACCURATE DESCRIPTION OF HOW IT ALL INTERPLAYS. BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE IS STILL A THING THAT LOOKS LIKE THE ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES DEPARTMENT EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE ALEX LAWRENCE AS CHIEF PEOPLE OFFICER AND AND SINCE YOU BROUGHT UP CODES AND ORDINANCES DOES DO IT HAVE A AN ORDINANCE AND DOES IT IS IT LIKE WHEN MY WASN'T IN THERE DO IT DOESN'T HAVE ONE I DON'T BELIEVE SO OH IT DOES THE PART OF THE GAP OF LIKE GOING OUT AND THINKING ABOUT LIKE YOU KNOW AUTHORITY AND RESPONSIBILITIES I THINK YOU KNOW, CONSIDERING THAT WE'RE MODERNIZING OUR INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY INFRASTRUCTURE AND THIS IS NOT FOR YOU FOLKS GENERALLY BUT I THINK IT'S A STATEMENT ABOUT THE NEED TO MODERNIZE OUR CODES AND ORDINANCES AND AND AND BRING IT BRING IT UP TO DATE BECAUSE SOME OF THE STUFF IS 50 YEARS OLD AND HASN'T BEEN LOOKED AT IN A LONG TIME. LET'S SEE.  YEAH I THINK YEAH, I THINK THAT'S THAT'S REALLY SOMETHING WE NEED TO WORK ON.  BUT THAT SAID, YOU KNOW I THINK HAVING HAVING DO IT IN MASS AS IT WAS THEN IN THE CENTRAL PART OF AN ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES DEPARTMENT STRUCTURE GIVE A LOT OF REACH WAS INTENDED TO GIVE YOU A LOT OF REACH TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF ALL THE DEPARTMENTS ACROSS THE ACROSS THE ENTERPRISE AND I THINK THERE WAS A LOT OF IN DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS SORT OF IMPROVISED AND BOUGHT THEIR OWN SOFTWARE AND SET UP THEIR OWN INFORMATION SYSTEMS THAT WEREN'T NECESSARILY TALKING TO EACH OTHER. SO WE'RE SORT OF TRYING TO DO SOME REMEDIAL WORK HERE TO TRY AND FIX A SITUATION THAT EVOLVED TEN, 15, 20 YEARS AGO. ARE THERE MANY SYSTEMS OUT THERE IN THIS AND WITHIN OUR WITHIN OUR BUREAUCRATIC STRUCTURE THAT ARE SORT OF OBSOLETE, OUTDATED AND NEED TO BE REPLACED? HOW MUCH HOW MUCH ANOTHER DEPARTMENT HOW MANY DEPARTMENTS HAVE OUT OF THIS SOFTWARE THAT'S NEEDS TO BE WORKED ON? I THINK THAT IF YOU WANTED A REALLY IN-DEPTH ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION HAVING AN EXECUTIVE SESSION WHERE WE COULD TALK BECAUSE AGAIN SOME OF THE ANSWERS TO THIS QUESTION STUCK ABOUT SECURITY VULNERABILITIES I WOULD JUST SAY WE'RE BEING MORE PROACTIVE THAN EVER ABOUT KNOWING WHAT WE HAVE AND STARTING TO BUILD WITH YOUR HELP THIS EXPECTED LIFETIME THAT WE'RE GOING TO HOLD ON TO THE SYSTEM SO THAT WE CAN BE JUDICIOUS AND UNDERSTANDING HOW LONG DO WE EXPECT TO USE THIS THAT WE CAN BUDGET FOR IT SO THAT WE CAN REPLACE IT. AND THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF PARTNERSHIP WITH OBAMA AND WITH OTHERS TO TRY TO GET TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE. BUT THERE IS THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO MODERNIZE AND SOME OF WE ARE MODERNIZING RIGHT NOW WITH WHERE WE'RE SPENDING THE BULK OF OUR TIME. I APPRECIATE THE SENSITIVITY OF THE INFORMATION BECAUSE CYBER SECURITY IS CRITICAL TO OUR BEING ABLE TO TURN THE LIGHTS ON AND DO OUR JOB.  AND SO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT.  IT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST ENABLED TO ALL OUR OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO DO THEIR WORK. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL YOUR WORK. THANK YOU.  THANK YOU, COUNSELOR. COUNSELOR ANDERSON THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. OKAY, KERRY CYNTHIA AS SANTIAGO RIGHT.  MR GARCIA THANK YOU, CHIEF GARCIA THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR WORK IN BEING HERE. I LOOK FORWARD TO CONNECTING WITH YOU OUTSIDE OF THIS HEARING AND HOPEFULLY I'M VERY EXCITED TO SEE YOUR PRESENTATION.  HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET TO THAT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.  I JUST HAVE ONE LAST REQUEST I NEED YOU TO CREATE A UNICORN HORN THAT ALSO SERVES LUNCH AND DOES A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER THINGS. OH BUT I DO HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF IDEAS AND I WOULD LOVE TO CONNECT WITH YOU GUYS AND JUST REALISTICALLY GIVE ME FEEDBACK LIKE YEAH THIS IS DOABLE OR THIS IS NOT OKAY SO PLEASE THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU MR CHAIR.  THANK YOU COUNSELOR. I'M FROM HIM.  THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO GET A UNICORN TOO SO I SECOND AND DID ALL THAT REQUEST. I WANT MY UNICORN TO ATTACH TO AN ARRAY THAT YOU KNOW OF BEING THE DRAMA QUEEN. RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. SO I THINK THAT THERE IS SOMETHING TO TO BE SAID. WE RECENTLY CODIFIED THE OFFICE OF IMMIGRANT ADVANCEMENT BECAUSE IT WAS IT WAS BEEN ESTABLISHED AND HAS NEVER BEEN CODIFIED INTO LAW.  RIGHT. SO MY COLLEAGUES QUESTIONS IN REGARDS TO THE FACT THAT AT ANY MOMENT AT ANY TIME RIGHT YOU'RE NOT REALLY YOU'RE HERE BUT YOU'RE NECESSARILY DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU'RE ALWAYS GOING TO BE HERE. RIGHT. AND SO THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO REALLY LOOK TO SEE WHAT OTHER DEPARTMENTS ARE WITHIN THE CHARTER THAT JUST HAPPENS TO BE THERE BUT DOESN'T HAVE A REAL FORMAL OR SOMETHING THAT GETS FORMALIZED. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU CAN STAY HERE RIGHT?  SO WE GOT TO WORK ON COUNSELOR COLLETTE ROE'S IDEA. SO I THINK THAT THERE IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING TO BE SAID ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT YOU CAN STAY HERE FOR THE LONG RUN BECAUSE WHAT THAT DOES IS THAT IT DOESN'T MATTER WHICH WHO IS IN A POSITION OF POWER THAT YOU AND THE WORK THAT YOU DO WILL ALWAYS STAND.  AND SO I THINK THAT THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT AND I'M JUST GOING TO ASK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT DATA BREACHES AND ALSO THIS IS LIKE WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT IT BUT THERE WERE SEVERAL INCIDENCES OF DATA BREACHES THAT HAD OCCURRED THROUGH DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS MAYBE NOT WITHIN CITY DEPARTMENT BUT WITH BPA AND OTHER SPACES AND PLACES. AND SO I'M JUST CURIOUS HOW ARE WE WHAT ARE WE DOING TO PROTECT PEOPLE'S PRIVACY BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT LIKE IF YOU HAVE LIKE THE CITY COUNCILS WE DON'T HAVE NO PROBLEMS.  WE HAVE NO PRIVACY REGULATE WE'RE LIKE HEY, WE'RE PUBLIC BUT PRIVATE RESIDENTS DO SO LET'S SAY FOR INSTANCE SOMEBODY HAS, YOU KNOW, 100 AND THOUSAND PARKING TICKETS LIKE HOW ARE WE PROTECTING PEOPLE'S INFORMATION IN THIS DAY AND AGE?  YEAH, THAT'S AGAIN, SECURITY IS ONE OF OUR TOP AREAS OF CONCERN AND WHERE I THINK COORDINATE AND WHEN WE WHEN WE'RE GATHERING INFORMATION OR COLLECTING INFORMATION FROM OUR CONSTITUENTS THAT'S TO BE AT THE FOREFRONT ALSO OF WHAT DEPARTMENTS AND OTHERS THINK ABOUT. WE'RE CUSTODIANS.  OUR CONSTITUENTS ARE TRUSTING US WITH INFORMATION AND AND THINGS THAT COULD PUT THEM AT HARM IF THEY'RE IN THE WRONG HANDS. SO WE KEEP BUILDING AGAIN WHAT I SAID THIS IS LIKE THE BIGGEST GAP IS THIS LIKE FEDERATED KIND OF THIS KIND OF COMPLEX STRUCTURE WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES THAT SOMETIMES HAVEN'T BEEN LIKE FULLY ASSIGNED.  BUT I WOULD JUST SAY WE WORK CLOSELY WITH THE CHIEF INFORMATION SECURITY OFFICER GREG MCCARTHY AND HIS REALLY BRILLIANT TEAM. WE WORK WHEN DEPARTMENTS HAVE AN INCIDENT OR BELIEVE THAT THEY HAVE BEEN IMPACTED WE HAVE A PROTOCOL TO RESPOND TO THOSE INCIDENTS AND WE WORK CLOSELY WITH OUR WITH OUR LAW DEPARTMENT AND WITH OTHERS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING THEM. SO AGAIN, I WOULDN'T COMMENT ON ANY SPECIFIC INCIDENT.  WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT IN SOME EXECUTIVE SESSION I'D IMAGINE. BUT BUT WE WORK THROUGH THAT AND HAVING A COORDINATED RESPONSE AND THEN WHAT WE'RE INTERESTED IS THAT EVERY DEPARTMENT THAT AN AGENCY IS WORKING WITH THE RIGHT TOOLS THAT WE'RE ASSURED THAT WE ARE DOING EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN TO PROTECT THEIR PRIVACY AND THE SECURITY THAT THEY THAT THEY HAVE AT THE WELL.  BUT THANK YOU. THANK YOU BOTH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.  UM, ANY LAST MINUTE QUESTIONS?  OKAY. UM, CORA, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC TESTIMONY? YEAH, I KNOW SHE'S GOING TO CHECK NO. GOOD. OKAY, GOOD. UM, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH CLOSING REMARKS AND I'D LIKE TO START WITH, UM, THE SPONSOR OF THIS DOCKET, COUNCILOR CARTER.  THANK YOU, CHAIR AND I WANT TO THANK YOU BOTH AGAIN JUST FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO FOR THE CITY OF BOSTON AND YOUR YOUR FORWARD THINKING CREATIVITY AND MAKING SURE THAT THE CITY IS RUNNING SMOOTHLY AND OUR DATA IS SECURE AND WE ARE SERVING OUR RESIDENTS AT THE END OF THE DAY I DO LOOK FORWARD CONTINUING THESE CONVERSATIONS, REVIEWING THE REPORT, SEEING WHAT WHAT COMES THROUGH THE BUDGET AND HOW WE CAN EXPAND YOUR DEPARTMENT.  I THINK IT IS A PRIORITY OF MINE TO MAKE SURE THAT YOUR BUDGET IS SAFEGUARDED TOO GIVEN THAT YOUR WORK IS SO INTEGRAL TO THE CITY OF BOSTON AND SO YOU HAVE THAT COMMITMENT FROM ME AND JUST THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR DEEP PARTNERSHIP AND ALL OF THIS WORK AND THE PROGRESS MADE THUS FAR. SO THANK YOU COUNCILOR BREADON THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.  I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.  YOUR WORK IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO CITY ALREADY MENTIONED AND THANK YOU WE HAD A VERY ROBUST CONVERSATION HERE THIS AFTERNOON AND I LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO WORK WITH YOU IN ANY WHICH WAY WE CAN SUPPORT YOUR WORK AND GET YOU THE RESOURCES THAT YOU NEED TO CONTINUE ADDRESSING THE DEFICITS THAT WE HAVE AND BUILDING A REALLY STRONG AND MAYBE GO FOR PLATINUM NEXT TIME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.  THANK YOU, COUNCILOR OH, COUNCILOR ANDERSON.  THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. THANK YOU, KERRY AND CHIEF, LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU OR GETTING YOUR PRESENTATIONS. I AM REALLY INTERESTED IN THE BUREAUCRATIC PART.  I THINK THAT THE FORMS ARE SUPER OUTDATED.  I THINK COUNCIL CLUTTER FILE SOMETHING ON DOCUMENTS IN UPDATING JUST THE FORMATS LAST YEAR OR THE YEAR PRIOR BUT I USED TO FILE A LOT WITH THE CITY BECAUSE I WORKED IN DEVELOPMENT BELIEVE IT OR NOT AND I IT WAS JUST OH MY GOD, OH MY GOD, IT'S STONE AGE. AND SO I KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME DEPARTMENTS THAT STILL SUFFER FROM THAT SO JUST INTERESTED IN MAKING IT MORE INTUITIVE AND I KNOW THIS IS NOT TECHNOLOGY BUT IT'S SUPER IMPORTANT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COMMUNICATIONS AND MAKING THINGS MORE EFFICIENT.  WE ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT THE FORMS AND IN TERMS OF HOW TO MAKE MAKE THOSE FORMS ELECTRONIC AS WELL.  SO THANK YOU AND LOOK FORWARD TO MORE AND SAME WE LOOK I'M NOT GIVING YOU A COMMITMENT BUT I SUPPORT YOUR WORK AND REASONABLY SO I WILL BE SUPPORTING WHATEVER RECOMMENDATION YOU'VE MADE TO OBAMA THE MAYOR THANK YOU.  THANK YOU COUNCILOR COMES FROM HIM.  COUNCILOR ANDERSON EVERYTHING YOU SAY CAN AND WILL BE HELD AGAINST YOU IN THE COURT OF THIS COUNCIL SO GET READY DITTO I DO I DO AGREE AND BELIEVE THAT YOU ALL ARE A LITERALLY THE THE LIFELINE. RIGHT RIGHT. IF WE YOU KNOW HEROES I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SAW THAT MOVIE I DON'T REMEMBER THE NAME AGAIN BUT OBAMA'S MOVING THE WORLD IS COMING TO AN END IS THAT YEAH DO YOU GUYS REMEMBER THAT THE LOOK UP YOU DON'T LOOK UP WAS IT WHATEVER IT WAS I REMEMBER WATCHING IT AND THERE WAS A SCENE WHERE THE DAD HAD TO GET SOMEWHERE AND THE GPS SYSTEM WORKED AND HE COULDN'T GET WHERE HE NEEDED TO BE AND I KNOW THAT'S LIKE A MOVIE BUT THE REALITY IS IS THAT WITHOUT YOU WE WOULDN'T REALLY BE ABLE TO FUNCTION IN OR WE'LL HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE WAY THAT THINGS USED TO BE IN SOME PEOPLE ESPECIALLY THE YOUNG'UNS THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO WRITE A PIECE OF PAPER AND THEN SO THERE IS SOMETHING TO BE SAID ABOUT THOSE WHO RELY ON TECHNOLOGY AND THE IMPORTANT WORK THAT YOU DO. AND SO I JUST WANT TO, YOU KNOW, ECHO THE FACT THAT YOU ARE DEFINITELY IMPORTANT. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU AND DEEP GRATITUDE AND IT'S JUST I LOVE TO SEE FOLKS WHO HAVE GROWN UP LITERALLY AND THEN THEY'RE IN POSITIONS THIS SO YOU TO CHIEF I CAN SEE HOW INCREDIBLY PASSIONATE YOU ARE ABOUT THIS WORK AND IT REALLY SHOWS AND HOW THOUGHTFUL YOU ARE IN YOUR RESPONSES. SO THANK YOU AND THANK YOU.  CAREY IT'S ALWAYS GREAT TO SEE YOU AND I REALLY DO APPRECIATE YOU AND MAKING SURE THAT YOU ALWAYS HAD ALL THE RIGHT ANGLES WHEN WE WERE IN THIS CHAMBER.  THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNSELOR.  ANY CLOSING REMARKS BY THE PANELS TO SAY THANK YOU AGAIN THANK YOU FOR BEING PATIENT AND AS WE KEEP TRYING TO MAKE THE CITY WORK A LITTLE BIT BETTER TO BREAK SOME OF THE SILOS AND THE THINGS THAT CAN BE FRUSTRATING FOR PEOPLE AND BUILDING A CITY THAT HAS A BETTER EXPERIENCE I THINK THAT THAT'S WHAT THE MAYOR WHO HAS ASKED US TO DO AND THERE'S A LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE. THIS IS A COMPLEX PLACE THAT HAS A LOT OF PIECES THAT NEED TO ALL WORK TOGETHER TO DELIVER A GOOD EXPERIENCE. SO I JUST THANK YOU FOR BEING KIND AND PATIENT IN AND WORKING WITH US TO GET US. YES. OKAY. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU JUST ECHO THAT WE'RE WE'RE VERY PROUD OF THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH YOU ALL AND MAKE THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT THE CITY AND THE WORKFORCE NEEDS.  THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YEAH. AS A CHAIR JUST WANT TO THANK YOU ALL THINK MY COLLEAGUES FOR BRINGING THIS TO THE TABLE THANK YOU TO THE PANELISTS THE CHIEF AND KARI IT'S AMAZING TO WORK WITH YOU EXCITED TO SEE THE WORK WE DO TOGETHER TO JUST CONTINUE THE INNOVATION OF TECHNOLOGY IN THE CITY. I THINK THAT'S WE'RE IN THE AGE OF IT AND WE JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE HAS EQUITABLE ACCESS TO IN THERE. WE'RE DOING IT APPROPRIATELY SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.  I'LL CALL THIS HEARING TO ADJOURN CHAIR --------- .  GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS ENRIQUE PEPEN DISTRICT FIVE BOSTON CITY COUNCILOR AND I'M THE CHAIR OF BOSTON CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE ON CITY SERVICES AND INNOVATION TECHNOLOGY. TODAY IS TUESDAY, APRIL 2ND, 2024. THIS HEARING IS BEING RECORDED . IT IS ALSO BEING LIVESTREAMED AT BOSTON ARCHIVES LARGE CITY COUNCIL TV AND BROADCAST ON CHANNEL EIGHT. RCN CHANNEL 82 AND FILES CHANNEL 964 WRITTEN COMMENTS MAY BE SENT TO THE COMMITTEE EMAIL AT SEEK TO SEE S I T AT BOSTON NA GOV AND WILL BE MADE A PART OF THE RECORD AND AVAILABLE TO ALL COUNCILORS. PUBLIC TESTIMONY WILL BE TAKEN AT THE END OF THIS HEARING. INDIVIDUALS WILL BE CALLED ON IN THE ORDER IN WHICH THEY SIGNED UP AND WILL HAVE 2 MINUTES TO TESTIFY. IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN TESTIFYING IN PERSON PLEASE ADD YOUR NAME TO THE SIGNUP SHEET.  NEAR THE ENTRANCE OF THE CHAMBER. IF YOU ARE LOOKING TO TESTIFY VIRTUALLY PLEASE EMAIL OUR CENTRAL STAFF LIAISON SHANE PECK AT SHANE BACKPACK PR C AT BOSTON DOT GOV FOR THE LINK AND YOUR NAME WILL BE ADDED TO THE LIST.  TODAY'S HEARING IS ON DOCKET NUMBER 0179. ORDER FOR A HEARING TO DISCUSS TRASH IN BOSTON. THIS MATTER WAS SPONSORED BY COUNCILOR SHARON DURKIN, GABRIELLA COLETTA AND RUTHIE LOUIJEUNE AND REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON JANUARY 24, 2020.  FOR TODAY I AM JOINED BY MY COLLEAGUES IN ORDER OF ARRIVAL COUNCILOR AT FLYNN COUNCILOR SHARON DURKIN, COUNCILOR AND MURPHY. I ALSO HAVE A LETTER OF ABSENCE FROM ONE OF THE SPONSORS COUNCILOR GABRIELLA COLETTA WHERE STATES I REGRET TO INFORM YOU THAT I WILL BE ABSENT FROM THIS COUNCIL FOR THE CITY SERVICES AND INNOVATION TECHNOLOGY HEARING TO DISCUSS TRASH COLLECTION IN BOSTON DUE TO AN EMERGENCY AND NEEDS BOSTON. MY STAFF IS LISTENING IN AND I WILL REVIEW THE RECORDING.  I LIKE TO JUST GIVE MY QUICK PRAYERS AND THOUGHTS TO THE FAMILIES AFFECTED OF THIS MORNING'S FIRE IN EAST BOSTON.  REALLY TRAGIC, REALLY SAD NEWS BUT THANK YOU FOR THE LETTER COUNCILOR COLLADO. BUT AT THIS TIME I WOULD LIKE TO PASS IT OVER TO THE ORIGINAL SPONSOR OF THIS HEARING.  COUNCILOR DURKIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH TO THE PANEL. THANK YOU TO THE CHAIR FOR CONVENING THIS HEARING.  THIS ISSUE COULD NOT BE MORE IMPORTANT TO ME IN MY CONSTITUENTS. A LOT OF THEM ARE HERE TODAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I ACTUALLY AND THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME WE'VE HAD A HEARING ON TRASH.  LAST YEAR IN APRIL ACTUALLY IT WAS THE LAUNCH DAY OF MY CAMPAIGN AND I CAME AND I TESTIFIED ON BEHALF OF OF BEACON HILL RESIDENTS AND ALSO MY EXPERIENCE ON ANDERSON STREET DEALING WITH TRASH ISSUES. SO THIS COULDN'T BE MORE IMPORTANT TO ME AND TO MY CONSTITUENTS.  WE ARE LEADING IN SO MANY WAYS AND YOU KNOW FROM THIS PANEL WE ARE LEADING IN SO MANY WAYS ON TRASH, YOU KNOW, AND WE ARE FAR AHEAD OTHER MUNICIPALITIES BUT WE STILL HAVE A WAYS TO GO.  AND I'M REALLY GRATEFUL TO THE WORK OF THE ZERO WASTE TEAM AND EVERYONE OUR WHOLE PANEL HERE TODAY. I WENT ON MY FIRST CODE ENFORCEMENT RIDE ALONG AND I SAW WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH AT NIGHT AND FROM MISSION TO THE BACK BAY WASN'T ABLE TO GET TO BEACON HILL THAT NIGHT BECAUSE IT WASN'T A TRASH DAY BUT BUT IT GOT TO SEE SOME OF WHAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING AND SOME OF THAT AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE FINES THAT THAT WERE PLACED ON OUR DESK. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I BELIEVE THAT WE CAN GET TO A BETTER SOLUTION WHEN IT COMES TO TRASH AND I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE THE RIGHT MINDS AND PEOPLE WORKING ON THIS AT THE CITY. SO I'M REALLY GRATEFUL. I THINK WHAT COMES TO MIND FOR MY CONSTITUENTS IS OUR UPCOMING TRASH CONTRACTS AND WHAT THOSE ARE GOING TO LOOK LIKE AND THEN MY OWN MY OWN PET PROJECT AND WHICH IS INFORMED BY A LOT OF THE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE FOLKS ON THIS PANEL IS HOW WE CAN GET TO POTENTIALLY PRIVATIZING SOME LARGER BUILDING TRASH IN THE CITY OF BOSTON. SO I'M GOING TO KEEP MY QUESTIONS AND MY REMARKS TO THOSE TWO ISSUES AND ALSO EXCITED TO HEAR TESTIMONY FOR MY CONSTITUENTS WHO ARE HERE TODAY. I'M REALLY GRATEFUL AGAIN TO THE CHAIR AND EXCITED TO SEE COUNCIL PRESIDENT HERE TOO. WHO CARES A LOT ABOUT THIS ISSUE. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. COUNCILOR DURKAN I'D LIKE TO WELCOME TO THE CHAMBER COUNCIL PRESIDENT RUDY LOUIJEUNE WHO IS ALSO ONE OF THE ORIGINAL CO-SPONSORS OF THIS BILL OF THIS HEARING. SO I'LL GIVE YOU THE FLOOR NEXT . THANK YOU, COUNCILOR PIPPEN AND I WANT TO THANK COUNCILOR DURKIN FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND FOR FILING THIS AND I WANT TO THANK MEMBERS OF THE ADMINISTRATION FOR ALL OF THE WORK THAT YOU DO AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING IN PARTNERSHIP TO REALLY ADDRESS THE ISSUES OF TRASH.  WE'RE TALKING TRASH THIS MORNING BUT WE'RE NOT TALKING TRASH.  WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TRASH AND WASTE IN OUR CITY AND THE WORK THAT WE NEED TO DO TO MAKE OUR STREETS CLEANER AND OUR NEIGHBORHOODS CLEANER AND TO MAKE EVERYONE FEEL GOOD ABOUT THE CITY AND ABOUT AND JUST SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW THAT WE SEE THEM, WE AFFIRM THEM, ESPECIALLY PEOPLE IN NEIGHBORHOODS WHO HAVE BEEN IGNORED FOR TOO LONG. SO I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE HERE. I WANT TO THANK DENNIS ROAD SUPERINTENDENT , THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT. I WANT TO THANK ALL OF THOSE WHO I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH. IT'S ESSENTIAL THAT WE UNDERSTAND AND WORK TOWARDS HARMONY WITH OUR CITY'S PUBLIC HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP AS IT RELATES TO TRASH AND WASTE MANAGEMENT.  IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT WE ENGAGE IN A COMPREHENSIVE AND FORWARD LOOKING SOLUTION TO NAVIGATE THESE CHALLENGES. WE DESERVE A WASTE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM THAT THAT REFLECTS OUR SHARED COMMITMENT TO SUSTAINABILITY, PUBLIC HEALTH AND QUALITY OF LIFE AND ONE TOO THAT IS DIVERSE. THAT ASPIRATION OF THE CURRENT AGREEMENT WITH CAPITAL WASTE SERVICE PRESENTS US WITH A DECISION TO MAKE BUT WITH A PIVOTAL OPPORTUNITY TO REIMAGINE OUR APPROACH TO MANAGING THE CITY'S SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING. THIS HEARING CAN NOT ONLY ADDRESS THE IMMEDIATE LOGISTICAL AND OPERATIONAL CHALLENGES BUT ALSO TO ALIGN OUR EFFORTS WITH THE AMBITIOUS GOAL TO SET FORTH IN THE ZERO WASTE BOSTON PLAN SUCH AS ACHIEVING AN 80% RECYCLING RATE BY 2035 AND STRIVING FOR 90% BY 2050. THESE TARGETS WILL REQUIRE INNOVATIVE THINKING, ROBUST COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND STEADFAST COMMITMENT FROM ALL STAKEHOLDERS. YET CHALLENGES SUCH AS INADEQUATE BIN STORAGE AND ENSUING RODENT ISSUES UNDERSCORE THE COMPLEX INTERCONNECTED NATURE OF OUR WASTE MANAGEMENT ECOSYSTEM. IT'S WITH THE SPIRIT OF COLLABORATION, INGENUITY AND RESPONSIBILITY THAT WE EMBARK ON FINDING SOLUTIONS THAT ARE SUSTAINABLE AS THEY ARE EQUITABLE.  AND I JUST WANT TO AGAIN REITERATE THAT I THINK SO MANY OF YOU JOHN, JOHN, DENNIS YASHA SORRY I'M NOT BEING MORE FORMAL BUT ARE JUST DOING REALLY INCREDIBLE WORK IN OUR CITY WHENEVER WE HAVE AN ISSUE WITH A PROPERTY WHETHER IT'S IN ROXBURY OR JAMAICA PLAIN.  EITHER IN TESTING PILOT PROGRAMS OR JUST IN YOUR RESPONSIVENESS. SO I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND I WANT TO THANK THOSE IN MY OFFICE MY CHIEF OF STAFF EMILY POSTER AND MUCH OF APOLLO, MY DIRECTOR OF POLICY JESSE PURVIS WHO CARE DEEPLY ABOUT THIS ISSUE AROUND THE CITY. SO THANK YOU AND I LOOK FORWARD TO ASKING QUESTIONS AND HEARING FROM ALL OF YOU DURING THE HEARINGS.  THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. COUNCILOR FLYNN.  THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.  THANK YOU FOR SHARING THIS IMPORTANT DISCUSSION.  AND I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE ADMINISTRATION TEAM THAT IS HERE AS WELL FOR THE IMPORTANT WORK AND LEADERSHIP THAT YOU ARE DOING. THIS IS AN ISSUE I'VE BEEN FOCUSED ON AS YOU AS YOU KNOW FOR THE LAST SEVEN YEARS CLEAN STREETS, CLEAN SIDEWALKS IS CRITICAL AND WE MUST CONTINUE TO WORK TOGETHER TO ENSURE EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD HAS CLEAN STREETS AND CLEAN SIDEWALKS. IT'S A IT'S A PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE AS WELL.  IT'S AN ISSUE I'VE BEEN FOCUSED ON AS YOU KNOW, AS PEST CONTROL ALSO HAS A CRITICAL IMPACT ON OUR STREETS AS WELL COMPOSTING BUT IT'S ABOUT WORKING TOGETHER ,LISTENING TO RESIDENTS SUPPORTING EACH OTHER AND PROVIDING CLEAN AND HEALTHY STREETS IN EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD OF BOSTON. ONE THING I'M GOING TO FOCUS ON AS WE GO INTO THE BUDGET IS MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH FUNDING FOR THESE CRITICAL DEPARTMENTS THAT YOU MANAGE SO WE'RE ABLE TO HAVE CLEAN STREETS.  CITY EMPLOYEES HAVE REALLY UNSUNG HEROES IN OUR CITY. THEY DO. THEY DO A TREMENDOUS JOB. BUT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH OF THEM AND THE HOKIES PLAY A CRITICAL ROLE IN BOSTON. THEY'RE RESPECTED.  THEY WORK HARD AND WE NEED MORE OF THOSE TYPES OF CITY EMPLOYEES THAT CARE DEEPLY ABOUT BOSTON AND CARE DEEPLY ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOODS.  BUT IT'S IT'S ABOUT ENSURING THAT WE ADDRESS THE CITY BUDGET AND ENSURING THAT WE HAVE THE NECESSARY RESOURCES TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE HEALTHY AND SAFE STREETS. I ALSO WANTED TO RECOGNIZE SOME OF MY CONSTITUENTS FORMER CONSTITUENTS THAT WERE HERE. I DO OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH THEM AS WELL FOR SEVEN YEARS SO MANY OF THEM IN THE BACK BAY IN THE BEACON HILL AREA. SO IT'S GOOD TO SEE THEM AS WELL. I ALSO WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THE CRITICAL ROLE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATIONS ARE PLAYING IN CHINATOWN. THEY HAVE SPECIFIC QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUES IN CHINATOWN AS YOU KNOW AND IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE INCLUDE THE CHINATOWN RESIDENTS AND PROVIDE A CLEANER AND HEALTHIER NEIGHBORHOOD FOR THEM AND FOR ALL NEIGHBORHOODS ACROSS THE CITY. THANK YOU, MR CHU.  THANK YOU, COUNCILOR COUNCILOR MURPHY.  THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CHAIR. THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE. I KNOW EACH OF YOU PICK UP THE PHONE ANY TIME I CALL AND I'VE DONE NEIGHBORHOOD WALKS ON MY STREET.  SO THANK YOU FOR THAT FOR BEING SO RESPONSIVE TO ME PERSONALLY IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD BUT ALSO AS AN AT LARGE CITY COUNCILOR I KNOW MY COLLEAGUES HAVE STATED IT BUT NO MATTER WHAT NEIGHBORHOOD YOU'RE IN THE TRASH COMES UP AND ABOUT THE QUALITY OF LIFE MATTERS. THE RESPECT IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS MATTER BUT I DO JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT I KNOW EACH OF YOU ALL OF YOU CARE ABOUT THAT AND UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, VERY DIFFICULT TO MANAGE THE TIMES AND THE PICKUPS AND IT'S NOT THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOUR OFFICE AND YOUR DEPARTMENTS AREN'T TRYING TO DO ALWAYS. BUT HOW CAN WE MAKE SURE THAT NOT EVERYONE IS GOING TO GET THE TIMES THEY WANT FOR TRASH PICKUP? RIGHT. THERE'S NO WAY TO GET TRASH PICKED UP AT THE SAME TIME ACROSS THE CITY OR MORE THAN ONCE A WEEK. WE DO KNOW THAT THESE CONVERSATIONS IF WE CAN DO BETTER THEN IT'S GOING TO MAYBE HAVE TO LEAN ON MAKING SURE WE HIRE MORE PEOPLE OR WE'RE ABLE TO SPEND MORE ON THE TRASH CONTRACT THAT'S COMING UP. SO JUST KNOW THAT I'M HERE TO SUPPORT THAT SUPPORT YOUR DEPARTMENT AND ALSO THANK YOU JUST FOR LISTENING BECAUSE IT IS MY JOB WHEN I GET CALLS WITH CONCERNS AND COMPLAINTS THAT YOU DO LISTEN AND TRY TO ALWAYS MAKE IT BETTER FOR THOSE RESIDENTS. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR . APPRECIATE THE AT THIS MOMENT I WOULD LIKE TO NOW INTRODUCE TODAY'S PANELISTS TESTIFYING ON BEHALF OF THE ADMINISTRATION IMF YOU CAN ALL PLEASE STATE YOUR NAMES IN YOUR POSITION. I GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT.  THANK YOU COUNCILORS FOR THOSE OPENING REMARKS. I AM JOSHUA FRANKLYN HODGE AND THE CITY'S CHIEF OF STREETS TRANSPORTATION AND SANITATION AND I'M JOINED BY A NUMBER OF MY COLLEAGUES WHO WORK SPECIFICALLY AROUND TRASH. I'LL TURN IT OVER TO DENNIS.  DENNIS ROACH I'M THE SUPERINTENDENT OF WASTE REDUCTION FOR BOSTON PUBLIC WORKS.  GOOD MORNING. JOHN BLACKMORE DIRECTOR OF CODE ENFORCEMENT FOR PUBLIC WORKS.  JOHN OVERCOME THE ASSISTANT COMMISSIONER OF ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES AT BOSTON INSPECTIONAL SERVICES. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING MIKE PERL SUPERINTENDENT BASIC CITY SERVICES CITY OF BOSTON AND WE ALSO HAVE JERRY GORMAN WHO'S OUR ASSISTANT SUPERINTENDENT FOR WASTE REDUCTION. THANK YOU ALL FOR JOINING TODAY'S HEARING.  AND I KNOW FOR THE RECORD THAT COUNCILOR JOHN FITZGERALD HAS JOINED THE HEARING AS WELL.  FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE JOINED SINCE SINCE TO TO DO THE INTROS IF YOU LIKE WHEN YOU ASK YOUR QUESTIONS MAKE SURE YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF BEFORE THAT. SO AT THIS MOMENT I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL . UM, I WAS STARTING WITH COUNCILOR DURKIN.  THANK YOU SO MUCH AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL YOU DO FOR OUR COMMUNITIES. I KNOW JOHN I HAVE JOHN ALL WORK DONE OTHERS TO JOHN'S. I'VE EMAILED YOU IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT ABOUT RATS HAPPENING AND RAT ACTIVITY IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD SO I JUST KNOW THAT THERE COULDN'T BE A MORE DEDICATED PANEL OF FOLKS THAT ARE WORKING FOR OUR CITY. SO I'M JUST REALLY GRATEFUL FOR YOUR TIME, FOR YOUR EXPERTISE. SO I WANTED TO GET INTO SOME OF MY QUESTIONS. I ACTUALLY MADE A JOKE AT THE SHATTUCK AWARDS THAT YOU SHOULD GET THE NEXT SHATTUCK SO HOPEFULLY FINGERS CROSSED.  SO THIS IS MY FIRST QUESTION WHEN WE LOOK AHEAD TO OUR TRASH CONTRACT WE'VE BEEN TOLD THAT THE CITY DOES NOT GET MANY PROPOSALS FOR A CONTRACT IF THE CITY IS TO RENEW THE CURRENT CONTRACT WOULD AND I KNOW THERE'S TRASH DISTRICTS AND THERE'S DIFFERENT CONTRACTS BUT IF YOU CAN EXPLAIN WITH A LITTLE MORE WHAT WOULD THIS CITY WOULD ARE IF THERE WAS A RENEWAL OF THE CONTRACTS, WOULD THIS BE A CITY RENEWAL OR A MUTUAL RENEWAL AND AND WHAT DOES THAT PROCESS LOOK LIKE RIGHT NOW?  SURE, I'LL SPEAK TO THAT TO START AND THEN ALLOW MY COLLEAGUES TO TO WEIGH IN. SO THE CITY IS CURRENT CONTRACT COLLECTIONS CONTRACT WITH CAPITAL EXPIRES AT THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR AND SO WE ARE CURRENTLY IN NEGOTIATIONS TO EXTEND THAT CONTRACT. IT WILL IT WILL LIKELY BE A NEW CONTRACT BUT IT IS A DIRECT NEGOTIATION TO CONTINUE SERVICES WITH CAPITAL IN THE COMING YEARS. THIS IS SORT OF AN ACTIVE NEGOTIATION FOR THE CITY. THE FOCUS RIGHT NOW IS ON CONTINUITY. IT'S MAKING SURE THAT THE SERVICES WE RELY ON EVERY DAY CONTINUE INTO BEYOND JULY FIRST AND SO WE HAVE NOT IN THIS CURRENT CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS SCOPED SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO THE SERVICE DELIVERY MODEL. I WILL SAY AND THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF A PREVIEW FOR THE COUNCIL THAT THE THAT WE ARE FACING A SUBSTANTIAL COST INCREASE FOR COLLECTIONS IN THAT RENEWAL EVEN TO MAINTAIN THE EXISTING LEVELS OF SERVICE THAT WE HAVE TODAY AND THE EXISTING MODEL THAT WE HAVE TODAY. IT'S A MIX OF RISING LABOR COSTS OF EQUIPMENT THAT OUR VENDOR NEEDS TO DESPERATELY NEEDS TO REPLACE AND THOSE COSTS WILL BE BORNE BY THE CITY IN AN UPDATED CONTRACT. SO WHILE THE FOCUS RIGHT NOW IS ON CONTINUITY, THERE ARE ALWAYS OPPORTUNITIES IN THE CONTEXT OF YOU KNOW REALLY EVEN IN THE DAY TO DAY RELATIONSHIPS THAT WE HAVE WITH THE COMPANIES TO LOOK AT THE SERVICE WITH CAPITAL, TO LOOK AT THE SERVICE DELIVERY MODEL, TO LOOK AT SCHEDULES, TO LOOK AT THE WAY WE HANDLE COLLECTIONS. ANY CHANGE COMES WITH A COST OR A TRADEOFF, RIGHT? IF WE WANT TO PUT MORE TRUCKS ON THE STREET THAT MEANS MORE VEHICLES. THAT MEANS MORE PEOPLE.  THERE ARE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. WHEN WE CHANGE PICKUP TIMES OR WE CHANGE THE WAY THAT OUR ROUTES ARE SET UP THAT CAN HAVE IMPACTS ON OTHER COMMUNITIES IN BOSTON. SO YOU KNOW, IF WE YOU KNOW, OFTENTIMES A TRUCK WILL DO ONE NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE MORNING AND THEN ANOTHER NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE AFTERNOON. AND SO IF WE MAKE A CHANGE IN THE MORNING SCHEDULE THAT CAN IMPACT THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THOSE TRUCKS ARE ARE INTENDED TO SERVE IN THE AFTERNOON. SO ALL OF THESE THINGS AS AS COUNCILOR HAVE NOTED IT'S COMPLEX AND THERE'S INTERDEPENDENCIES BUT YOU KNOW THE NATURE OF THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS AND THE FACT THAT THESE CONTRACTS ARE EXEMPT FROM THE TRADITIONAL PROCUREMENT PROCESS MEANS THAT WE DO HAVE AN ADDED MEASURE OF FLEXIBILITY, YOU KNOW, THROUGHOUT THE CONTRACT LIFECYCLE TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THE SOME OF THE TRADE OFFS AND MAKING ADJUSTMENTS. SO DENNISON THINGS LIKE THAT YOU KNOW I MEAN THAT WAS WELL SAID BUT JUST TO GIVE A LITTLE MORE SPECIFIC. OUR TRUST CONTRACTS ARE BROKEN UP INTO FIVE DIFFERENT CONTRACTS. EACH CONTRACT ESSENTIALLY SERVES TWO DISTRICTS PUBLIC WORKS DISTRICTS ONE IN THE MORNING, ONE IN THE AFTERNOON. MOST OF OUR DISTRICTS GET ONE DAY A WEEK OF PICK UP. THOSE ARE MORE SUBURBAN AREAS IN THE CITY, THE DOWNTOWN AREA PLUS ROXBURY GETS TWO DAYS OF SERVICE A WEEK SO WE'D BE CONTINUING WITH THOSE PARTICULAR SERVICES UNDER THIS CONTRACT.  I MEAN THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERN IN THE LACK OF COMPETITION HERE . SO I'M CURIOUS IF THE CITY HAS ENVISIONED AND I'LL JUST I'D BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T MENTION I HAVE OBVIOUSLY CONSTITUENTS HERE WHO WANT TO WEIGH IN ON THE TERMS OF THESE CONTRACTS AND WANT TO HAVE A SAY AND HAVE HAVE BEEN VERY ACTIVE AND FOR IN PARTICIPATING WHENEVER THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE.  SO OBVIOUSLY I WOULD LIKE TO ADVOCATE FOR THAT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.  BUT JUST ADDING ON TOP OF THAT THE THE LAYER OF THERE NOT BEING A LOT OF COMPETITION HERE IS VERY CONCERNING BECAUSE IT MEANS THAT THE TERMS THAT WE NEED AS A CITY MAY NOT END UP BEING POSSIBLE AND SO I'M CURIOUS THAT THE CITY IS THINKING ABOUT ANY INCUBATOR MODELS OF CREATING SOME TRASH WORK. I MEAN I KNOW WE ALREADY HAVE SOME TRASH WORK THAT HAPPENS IN-HOUSE BUT EXPANDING UPON THAT AND THINKING THROUGH OR MAYBE EVEN YOU KNOW, GIVING SOME STARTER FUNDS TO TWO LOCAL BUSINESSES THAT WANT TO EXPAND. YEAH. SO WE WE HAVE VERY FOCUSED AS A DEPARTMENT IN TRYING TO ATTRACT MORE COMPETITION TO THE CITY OF BOSTON FOR TRASH IN SOME OF THE WAYS WE'RE DOING THAT IS WE'VE SPLIT OFF SOME OF OUR SERVICES TO OUR CITY DEPARTMENTS AND GIVING THEM TO OTHER TRASH COMPANIES IN ORDER TO BUILD THEIR MODELS SO EVENTUALLY THEY CAN COMPETE IN THE TRASH INDUSTRY.  WE ALSO DO IF WE WE REACH AN AGREEMENT WITH OUR CURRENT CONTRACT TO EXTEND OUR CONTRACT. OUR PLAN IS ALSO TO BID A NEW CONTRACT OUT THREE YEARS FROM NOW AND WE PLAN TO ISSUE A REQUEST FOR INFORMATION ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO START DRAWING IN COMPETITION FOR PEOPLE THAT WANT TO COME TO BOSTON SERVICE TRASH. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ONE COMPANY THAT HAS BEEN BIDDING IS BIDDING ON OUR COMPETITION THAT'S CAPITAL WASTE.  WE'RE SURROUNDED BY FORTUNE 500 COMPANIES AND TRASH WITH WHETHER IT BE REPUBLIC OR WIND WASTE OR WASTE WASTE MANAGEMENT THAT DON'T WANT TO COME INTO THE CITY OF BOSTON BECAUSE OF THE DIFFICULT NATURE IT IS TO SERVICE TRASH IN AN URBAN ENVIRONMENT LIKE BOSTON IT TAKES MORE BODIES. IT TAKES MORE PEOPLE. IF YOU IF YOU SERVICE TRASH IN THE SUBURBS, YOU'RE GETTING THOSE AUTOMATED ONE BODY TRASH TRUCKS WITH THE AUTOMATED ARM IN BOSTON NAVIGATING THESE VERY DIFFICULT STREETS IT'S OFTEN A TO BODY TRUCK. IT'S VERY, VERY DIFFICULT WORK TO WORK IN THE CITY OF BOSTON. SO WE'RE TRYING TO ATTRACT MORE NATIONAL COMPETITION IN HERE OVER THE NEXT THREE YEARS. THANK YOU. AND I'M SORRY IF I COULD HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION REALLY BRIEFLY AS YOU KNOW IN ABOUT AN HOUR THE MAYOR WILL BE SIGNING AN ORDINANCE TO CREATE A CITY PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND THE BPA AND THE CITY COUNCIL ARE HAVING ONGOING CONVERSATIONS WITH THE PUBLIC AROUND ARTICLE 80 MONETIZATION UNDERSTANDING THAT IT'S MUCH EASIER TO SOLVE FOR TRASH PROBLEMS OF NEW DEVELOPMENTS BEFORE IT'S BUILT. WHAT WOULD WHAT WOULD BE YOUR IDEAL FOR PUBLIC WORKS ENGAGEMENT AND NEW DEVELOPMENT REVIEW?  AND IF YOU HAD TO DESIGNATE A FEW STANDARDS FOR NEW BUILDINGS TO COMPLY WITH BEYOND SANITATION CODE , WHAT WOULD THOSE BE?  IT'S A GOOD QUESTION. I'M NOT SURE I HAVE A FULLY FULLY CONSIDERED ANSWER TO IT. I MEAN I THINK IT IS TYPICALLY BEEN OUR PREFERENCE FOR NEW LARGE BUILDINGS THAT THEY ARRANGE FOR THEIR OWN COLLECTIONS AND MANAGEMENT OF SOLID WASTE AS PART OF THE OPERATIONS OF THE BUILDING THE CITY'S COLLECTION PROGRAM IS VERY WELL SUITED TO COLLECT FROM, YOU KNOW, SMALLER RESIDENCES, YOU KNOW, SINGLE FAMILIES, SMALL APARTMENT BUILDINGS NOT FROM THE KINDS OF LARGE SCALE DEVELOPMENTS THAT TYPICALLY UNDERGO ARTICLE 80. AND WHAT WE SEE WITH MOST OF THOSE DEVELOPMENTS IS THAT THEY ARE IN FACT ARRANGING FOR THEIR OWN PRIVATE WASTE COLLECTION.  WE HAVE SORT OF LIMITED POLICY AND OPERATIONAL OVERSIGHT OVER THE WAY THAT THOSE BUILDINGS FUNCTION.  BUT CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE OUR HOPE THAT AS PART OF ANY ARTICLE 80 PROCESS THAT THOSE LARGE BUILDINGS ARE LOOKED AT IN THE CONTEXT OF OUR LARGER ZERO WASTE GOALS AND PLANS LOOKING AT RECYCLING RATES, LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, RESPONSIBLE FOOD WASTE DISPOSAL AND THAT THOSE BUILDINGS DEVELOP AS PART OF THEIR STRATEGY PLANS THAT RESULT IN THEM CONTRIBUTING TO THOSE ZERO WASTE GOALS AND ENSURE THAT THEIR RESIDENTS FROM BOTH SERVICE AVAILABILITY AND INFORMATION AVAILABILITY ARE ABLE TO RESPONSIBLY DISPOSE OF WASTE AND MINIMIZE THE AMOUNT OF TRASH THAT ENDS UP IN THAT STREET. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO REMIND MY COLLEAGUES THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO A THREE MINUTE FIRST ROUND OF QUESTIONS FOR EACH COUNCILOR AND THEN WE'LL DO A SECOND ROUND OF QUESTIONS. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. AT THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE OUR COUNCIL PRESIDENT LOUIJEUNE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CHAIR AND THANK YOU AGAIN TO ADNAN FOR BEING HERE. SO CHIEF FRANKLIN HODGE, YOU STATED THAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE A COST INCREASE. I THINK I'M NOT SURE I KNOW THAT MY OFFICE HAS BEEN REALLY ATTUNED WITH THIS ISSUE AND HAVE TIMES TALKED TO DENNIS AND OTHERS.  THIS IS A COST INCREASE THAT WE'RE THAT OTHER CITIES ARE GOING TO EXPERIENCE ACROSS THE CITY, ACROSS THE COMMONWEALTH. RIGHT. SO IT'S NOT JUST IN THE CITY OF BOSTON THEY'RE WORRIED THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE EXPERIENCING THAT'S GOING TO BE EXPERIENCING INCREASES THAT RIGHT?  YES. I MEAN WE'VE WE'VE SEEN IF YOU LOOK EVEN NATIONALLY BUT CERTAINLY ACROSS THE COMMONWEALTH TRASH COLLECTION COSTS ARE HAVE BEEN SKYROCKETING IN RECENT YEARS DRIVEN BY A LOT OF THE SAME INFLATIONARY PRESSURES THAT ARE AFFECTING OTHER PARTS OF THE ECONOMY. THANK YOU. AND THEN I BELIEVE MAY WANT TO BRING IN A ROACH OR IT MAY HAVE BEEN YOU ACTUALLY FRANKLIN HODGE WHEN WE LOOK AT THE TRASH PICKUP AS IT CURRENTLY THE TRASH CONTRACT.  IS IT POSSIBLE AND I RECOGNIZE THE CONSTRAINTS THAT YOU MENTIONED WITH RESPECT TO THE DIFFICULTY OF PICKING UP OR OF ENTERING INTO A CONTRACT IN A IN AN URBAN CITY IN PLACES LIKE BOSTON, THE DIFFICULTIES THERE. BUT IS IT POSSIBLE HAVE WE LOOKED INTO BREAKING OUT THE CONTRACTS OF SMALLER CONTRACTS SO THAT WE CAN ATTRACT A MORE DIVERSE ABOUT A DIVERSE SET OF BIDDERS TO TRY TO ALSO BREAK UP SORT OF THE MONOPOLY ON THAT IN THE CITY? SO OVER OVER THE LAST YEAR WE'VE RECENTLY FUNDED A TRASH FALLOW POSITION THAT'S DOING A LOT OF THIS WORK ANALYZING OUR CURRENT TRASH CONTRACTS.  IT'S FOR BIDDING OUT THE NEXT ROUND OF CONTRACTS WITH IT FOR THREE YEARS FROM NOW. SO WE'RE GOING TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME WITH THE TRASH FELLOW. WE'RE DOING A LOT OF RESEARCH.  WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF WE CAN BREAK THEM OFF INTO SMALLER SECTIONS TO ATTRACT MORE COMPETITION.  BUT UNTIL WE GET THAT IN PLACE THAT'S GOING TO TAKE A FEW YEARS TO GET GET COMPLETED. SO WE'RE TRYING TO PUT THIS THIS AN EXTENSION TO THE CURRENT CONTRACTS IN PLACE NOW AS WE WORK ON THIS IMPORTANT WORK GOING FORWARD AND WE HAVE A TRASH FELLOW ON SITE AND WE ALSO WE'RE STARTING TO WORK WITH THE CONSULTANT ABOUT TRY TO RESTRUCTURE OUR TRASH CONTRACTS WITH FUTURE.  SO THE ONLY THING I'D ADD IS JUST THE AS THE SUPERINTENDENT MENTIONED, WE ARE ALSO TRYING TO BREAK OUT SOME OF THE LARGER CITY DEPARTMENT COLLECTIONS SO THAT THOSE CAN BE BID INDEPENDENT OF THE LARGER COLLECTION. AND YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE GOALS OF THAT IS TO HELP NURTURE MORE COMPETITION AT THE IN THE ECOSYSTEM GET SOME OF THESE COMPANIES WITH THAT EXPERIENCE UNDER THEIR BELT IN THE HOPES THAT WHEN WE DO GO OUT TO BID FOR A FULL REVAMP OF THE LARGER TRASH CONTRACT THAT THERE WILL BE MORE PLAYERS IN THE MARKET. THANKS AND WHAT PREVENTS US FROM DOING THAT NOW IS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE WORK THAT THE EXACT PIECE OF THE TRASH FELLOWS IN THE CAR AND THE CONSULTANT IT'S IT'S BULL THAT IN THAT THE COMPETITION DOESN'T EXIST IF WE PUT THEM OUT TODAY AND ANY ORDERS WE WOULD HAVE ONE SOLE BIDDER BIDDING ON THESE CONTRACTS AND THAT'S NOT ADVANTAGEOUS FOR THE CITY.  OKAY. THE LAST THE LAST ROUND OF BIDS ATTRACTED TWO BIDDERS, ONE OF WHOM IS NO LONGER IN BUSINESS. SO THAT'S KIND OF THE SITUATION THAT WE WERE. SO IT'S GOING TO BE STILL BE THE SAME MODEL OF , YOU KNOW, HAVING ONE PICK UP A DAY FOR MOST OF THE CITY. BUT IN THE DOWNTOWN AND ROXBURY AREAS HAVING I'M SORRY ONE PICKUP A DAY IDEAL ONE WEEK OF A WEEK AND IN DOWNTOWN AREAS AND IN ROXBURY SHOUT OUT TO MAYOR MENINO ON THAT ONE. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PICK UP A WEEK EVEN UNDER THIS NEW CONTRACT GIVEN THE SHORT TIME BETWEEN WHERE WE ARE TODAY AND THE EXPIRATION OF THE CONTRACTS, OUR FOCUS IS ON RENEWING WITH CONTINUITY OF EXISTING SERVICE BUT THERE'S CERTAINLY BE OPPORTUNITIES IN THE ENSUING YEARS TO DISCUSS CHANGES IN THOSE MODELS. THANK YOU. I HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS IF YOU WOULD LIKE I CAN HOLD BUT I, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I'M ABLE TO GET THROUGH ALL OF MY.  THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THANK YOU. BEFORE WE CONTINUE, YOU JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT COUNCILOR BREADON COUNCILOR WEBER AND COUNCILOR ANDERSON HAVE JOINED US FOR THIS HEARING AS WELL. AT THIS TIME, COUNCILOR FLYNN, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.  THANK YOU. I RECENTLY HAD A ZOOM MEETING WITH SOUTHEND RESIDENTS ABOUT THE BUDGET UPCOMING BUDGET. THEY WERE ASKING AND IN CHINATOWN RESIDENTS TOO THEY WERE ASKING FOR THOSE ú96.96 GALLON BARRELS WHERE THE RATS CAN'T SHOOT FOR WAS SEEING A LOT OF RATS JUST OPENING THESE BAGS, EATING THESE EATING FOR THESE BARRELS. WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ON SOME OF THESE PEST CONTROL RELATED ISSUES FOR BARRELS? ARE WE ABLE TO HELP OUR RESIDENTS?  ARE WE TALKING ABOUT RESIDENTIAL BARRELS? ARE STREET BARRELS OR BOTH? BOTH. BOTH THE PLACE I'M CURRENTLY WE DON'T PROVIDE TRASH BARRELS READY TO RESIDENTS. WE DO PROVIDE 96 GALLON RECYCLING TOTES AND RECYCLING IS ALL WE PROVIDE RIGHT NOW. WE DO NOT PROVIDE RESIDENTIAL TRASH TOTES THAT'S ON THE ON THE ONUS OF THE RESIDENT TO PROVIDE. AND I WOULD JUST ADD TO THAT I MEAN PARTLY YOU KNOW WHAT WE'VE HEARD AND THERE'S A MUCH LARGER CONVERSATION ABOUT CONTAINERIZATION OF TRASH BUT WHAT WE'VE HEARD IS THAT THE BIG CHALLENGE FOR MANY RESIDENTS ESPECIALLY IN NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE THE SOUTHEND IN CHINATOWN IS THAT THEY DON'T HAVE SPACE FOR STORAGE AND SO RATHER THAN THE CITY IMPOSE A SORT OF ONE SIZE FITS ALL BARREL REQUIREMENT WHERE WE DISTRIBUTE BARRELS, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE OVERALL POLICIES AROUND CONTAINERIZATION AND FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN ENCOURAGE MORE TRASH TO BE CONTAINERIZED BUT IN A WAY THAT IS SORT OF RIGHT SIZED FOR THE PARTICULAR CONTEXT OF EACH NEIGHBORHOOD AND WHAT THE BUILDINGS CAN ACCOMMODATE ON THAT ON THAT RESPONSE. SO WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO TO HELP THE RESIDENTS OF CHINATOWN IN WHAT RESPECT AND IN THE RESPECT OF GETTING THE CLEANER STREETS HEALTHIER STREETS PICKING UP TRASH, EDUCATING THE PUBLIC, ENSURING THAT RESIDENTS DON'T PUT THEIR BAGS OUT IN THE STREET, THAT THEY HAVE ACCESS TO BARRELS HOW ARE WE GOING TO IMPROVE THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE?  I MEAN WE'RE WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS IN PARTICULARLY CHINATOWN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT SOME CONTAINERIZATION MODELS THAT COULD FIT FOR CHINATOWN WE HAVEN'T FOUND THE RIGHT SOLUTION IS THERE'S PROS AND CONS TO ALL DIFFERENT TYPES OF SOLUTION.  THERE'S CERTAINLY THOSE EUROPEAN MODELS WHERE YOU TAKE AWAY PARKING SPACES AND PUT A COMMUNITY BIN. THEY'RE NOT VERY ACCESSIBLE. WE FIND THAT THEY'RE THEY'RE OVERLY UTILIZED BY COMMERCIAL ENTITIES THAT JUST DECIDE TO THROW ALL THEIR TRASH THERE. WE'VE BEEN TALKING AND WE'VE BEEN GOING TO COMMUNITY MEETING AT THE COMMUNITY MEETING BOTH IN CHINATOWN, SOUTHEND, BEACON HILL, NORTH END MOST OF DOWNTOWN TRYING TO FIND SOME CONTAINERIZATION MODELS THAT MAKE SENSE AND WE'RE WORKING WITH THE BUDGET OFFICE TO GET SOME OF THESE KIND OF PILOT PROGRAMS FUNDED. WE HAVE NOT FOUND THE MODEL THAT MAKES 100% CENT FOR ALL NEIGHBORHOOD. I ALSO THINK THAT'S A NATIONAL PROBLEM LIKE NEW YORK IS CURRENTLY TESTING ALL KINDS OF MODELS TO BOTH SUCCESSES AND FAILURES. WE'RE CERTAINLY WATCHING WHAT THEY DO BECAUSE THEY HAVE SIMILAR NEIGHBORHOOD GOOD STORIES BUT WE HAVEN'T FOUND THAT ONE SIZE FITS ALL CONTAINERIZATION MODEL. THERE'S CERTAINLY CONTAINERIZATION POLICY THAT WE'RE STARTING TO WORK ON. WE'RE KIND OF FOLLOWING WHAT NEW YORK'S DOING A LITTLE BIT. WE HAVEN'T IMPLEMENTED ANYTHING BUT WE'RE WATCHING WHAT THEY'RE DOING.  THEY'RE NOT ALLOWING LOOSE BAGS OUT IN THE STREET UNTIL THE MORNING OF TRASH PICKUP.  YOU CAN NO LONGER PUTTING MORE OF IT OVERNIGHT IN NEW YORK. IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE WATCHING AND MONITORING TO SEE HOW MUCH SUCCESS THEY HAVE LEADER AND I THINK I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ADDRESS IN THIS CITY IS IS LOOKING AT THE TYPE OF CONTAINERIZATION POLICY I THINK SO THAT'S SOMETHING I'VE BEEN FOCUSED ON FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME.  I WANT TO I WANT TO SEE SOME ACTION ON THAT THINKING COUNCILOR FLYNN AND RICHARD 3 MINUTES IS IT OKAY IF YOU SAVE FOR THE NEXT ROUND OF QUESTIONS ? COUNCILOR FITZGERALD OKAY.  THANK YOU CHAIR AND THANK YOU ADMINISTRATION FOR COMING TODAY. GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL. QUICK QUESTION RIGHT?  I'M NEW. I ONLY HAD THREE MONTHS SO I'M LEARNING SOME STUFF BUT I WAS WALKING DOWN SALEM STREET THE OTHER DAY. I JUST SAW BAGS ON THE SIDE OF THE SIDEWALK THAT IS NOT ALLOWED AT ALL, CORRECT. IT HAS TO BE IN A BARREL BY LAW. NO, NO, IT IS ALLOWED. IT IS ALLOWED SO YOU CAN JUST PUT THE BAG ON THE SIDEWALK. ALL RIGHT. BECAUSE I WAS AS I WAS WALKING BY I'M LIKE THAT DOESN'T LOOK GREAT, RIGHT? BUT I'M LIKE AND I WASN'T SURE SO I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU. THAT'S ON. AND IS THERE A REASON WHY IS THAT BECAUSE OF THE CONTENT LIKE WHERE DO WE PUT THE CONTAINERS AND THE THINGS LIKE THAT AND GET SO THERE'S A FEW THERE'S A FEW ISSUES LIKE A IT'S ALLOWED BY ORDINANCE SO WE PEOPLE ARE ALLOWED TO PUT LOOSE BAGS ON THE TRASH. THAT'S CERTAINLY BE ADDRESSED NATIONALLY.  THEY'RE CHANGING SOME OF THOSE MODELS. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT AN AREA LIKE THE NORTH END IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO PUT 96 GALLON TOTES ON THE SIDEWALK.  THE RESIDENT CAN'T STORE THEM RIGHT. BUT B, THE CAR IS A PARK SO TIGHTLY TOGETHER UP AND DOWN THE STREETS ARE TRASH TRUCKS CAN'T PULL THESE BATTLES BETWEEN CARS SO THEY OFTEN SPEND TIME WITH THESE LOOSE BAGS TOSSING THEM OVER CARS. IT'S A PICK UP ISSUE AS WELL. SO WE'RE TRYING TO KIND OF SOLVE ALL THAT WE CERTAINLY DON'T RECOMMEND PUTTING OUT LOOSE BAGS OF TRASH ON THE SIDEWALK.  YOU CAN PROBABLY TALK TO JOHN. ALL RIGHT. BUT YOU'RE BASICALLY PUTTING A FOOD BUFFET ON THE SIDEWALK FOR RATS AND THAT'S PART OF THE CITY'S PROBLEMS AND WE CERTAINLY WANT TO ADDRESS THAT AND WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL KIND OF MODELS TO KIND OF ADDRESS THAT. BUT WE HAVEN'T FOUND THAT SOLUTION YET AND WE'RE LOOKING AT EVERYTHING AS I MENTIONED BEFORE. SO NO UNDERSTOOD. THANK YOU.  AND HOW DO WE WHEN WE TICKET FOLKS HAVE TRASH I KNOW I'VE GOTTEN CALLS IN MY OFFICE AND IT'S AROUND YOU KNOW, THEY SAY I GOT A TICKET BUT IT WASN'T MY TRASH BUT IT WAS IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE AND WE KNOW THAT SOME PEOPLE CAN GO THROUGH TRASH. ANIMALS CAN GO TO TRASH. THEY MOVE TRASH AROUND.  IT'S YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY THE LOOSE BAGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. WHAT IS THE PROCESS AND MAYBE THIS COULD FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT WHAT IS WHAT IS THE PROCESS THAT SOMEONE HAS TO GO THROUGH AND I'M ONLY I HAVE NO BEEF WITH IT. I'M JUST I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROCESS IS FOR SOMEONE THAT I'M WRITING A TICKET PUTTING IT ON THIS BAG. WHAT MAKES ME SAY I FEEL CONFIDENT THAT THIS IS IN VIOLATION AND WHO YOU'RE GIVING THAT TICKET RIGHT IN FRONT OF THIS HOUSE. I KNOW THAT IT'S TO THE HOUSE IT'S IN FRONT OF RIGHT. SO THE OFFICER WAS THERE LIKE SHE PUT A PAIR OF RUBBER GLOVES ON, GO THROUGH THE TRASH IF THEY CAN FIND A NAME THEY WRITE THE TICKET OUT TO THE PROPERTY OWNER AND THEY'LL PUT THAT TENANT'S NAME UNDER THE COMMENTS BECAUSE IT'S ULTIMATELY THE OWNER'S RESPONSIBILITY TO GO AFTER THE TENANTS. OKAY. BUT THE LAW IS DOESN'T STATE THEY HAVE TO FIND EVIDENCE SO IF THEY DON'T FIND EVIDENCE AND THERE'S A LARGE AMOUNT OF TRASH IN FRONT OF YOU THEY WILL CITE THAT BUILT IN FRONT OF JUST WAIT AND THAT BECAUSE I KNOW THE APPEAL PROCESS YEAH IN SOME AREAS IT'S MORE LIKELY THAT FOLKS ARE GOING THROUGH TRASH AND OTHER ESPECIALLY MY DISTRICT AND SO THAT'S SORT OF WHERE THESE HAVE COME FROM AND YOU KNOW SOME PEOPLE GET A $100 TICKET, RIGHT? I MEAN SOME OF THEM ARE PRETTY PRICEY.  YOU CAN GET UP THERE AND THEY SAY IT'S NOT MY TRASH. HOW HOW AM I AS A CONSTITUENT TO PREVENT SOMEBODY FROM DRAGGING TRASH A BLOCK DOWN,  DROP IT IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE AND I GET I GET BANG FOR 100 BUCKS RIGHT.  IT'S TOUGH. SO I JUST WAS WONDERING WHAT THAT PROCESS IS AND WHAT YOU GUYS IT'S NICE TO KNOW THAT YOU GUYS ACTUALLY TRY TO LOOK FOR EVIDENCE TO MAKE SURE IT'S FAIR. LIKE I SAID, THEY PUT THE RUBBER GLOVES ON, OPEN UP THE BAGS, GO THROUGH IT IF THEY COULD FIND IT IN A TIE TO TIE THE BAG BACK UP. SO IT'S NOT ALL THE SIDEWALK. GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THE REST OF MY COLLEAGUES FOR ASKING GREAT QUESTIONS AS WELL. I'M ALL SET. THANK YOU, JOE. THANK YOU, COUNSELOR.  COUNSELOR BREADON, GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL.  LET'S SEE THE RECYCLING ISSUE WE SEE A LOT LIKE WITH ALL THE AMAZON DELIVERIES WE GET A HUGE AMOUNT OF EXTRA PACKAGING AND BOXES AND IS IT A WAY THAT WE CAN HAVE THE SOME OF THAT BURDEN TAKEN ON BY THE THE AMAZON BY TAKING SOME OF THAT TRASH AWAY TO SOME OF THE PACKAGING AND RECYCLING ARE RECYCLED BINS ABSOLUTELY OVERFLOWING WITH WITH PACKAGING FROM DELIVERIES OF WE THOUGHT THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD IS STUDENT IS THERE SOMEONE IN YOUR DEPARTMENT LIKE ACTIVELY WORKING ON INNOVATING NEW POLICY THIS WEEK BECAUSE SOME OF OUR SOME OF OUR REGULATIONS ARE DO NOT MEET THE MOMENT IN TERMS OF LIKE WE DIDN'T DREAM OF HAVING ALL OF OUR STUFF DELIVERED BUT TO THE DOOR 20 YEARS AGO IT'S A NEW THING THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH.  SO JUST YOU KNOW IN TERMS OF INNOVATING AND KEEPING UP OR LEADING THE CHARGE IN TERMS OF WHAT HOW WE CAN HANDLE ALL THIS AND HUGE AMOUNT OF WASTE.  I'LL LET DENNIS SPEAK A LITTLE BIT TO SOME OF THE POLICY WORK THAT WE ARE DOING.  I THINK, YOU KNOW, BROADLY SPEAKING THE THE TOPIC KIND OF FALLS UNDER THIS THIS UMBRELLA OF PRODUCER RESPONSIBILITY AND LOOKING UPSTREAM OF THE WASTE AND AND ASKING HOW DO WE HELP HOW DO WE HOW DO WE GET THE FOLKS WHO ARE THE CORPORATIONS WHO ARE CONTRIBUTING TO THE TO THE WASTE STREAM TO PLAY A LARGER ROLE IN ADDRESSING THE THE IMPACTS OF THAT? BY AND LARGE THESE HAVE BEEN MATTERS OF STATE LEVEL POLICY RATHER THAN LOCAL POLICY.  YOU KNOW, WE TEND TO MAINTAIN WE HAVE A RELATIVELY LIMITED SCOPE OF AUTHORITY AND SO WE TEND TO BE FOCUSED ON HOW DO WE COLLECTED, HOW DO WE ENCOURAGE BETTER DISPOSAL RATHER THAN THAT UPSTREAM. BUT I THINK THE CITY HAS WEIGHED IN IN SEVERAL CASES IN SUPPORT OF STATE LOCAL LEVEL LEGISLATION THAT WOULD CREATE MORE UPSTREAM ACCOUNTABILITY FOR SOME OF THE BUT YOU KNOW THE STATE HAS LANDED US WITH A BIG PROBLEM BECAUSE THEY HAVE AN UNFUNDED MANDATE TO RECYCLE MATTRESSES THAT HAVE QUITE A IT 100 200 MATTRESSES A DAY IN THE CITY OF BOSTON AND THAT'S A HUGE LIKE TELL ME ABOUT IT IS THAT'S A HUGE BURDEN ON THE YEAH IT'S BEEN A TREMENDOUS BURDEN FOR US FOLLOWING THAT POLICY I MEAN WE CERTAINLY AGREE WITH THE RECYCLING OF MATTRESSES BUT WE DID NOT HAVE THE RESOURCES AND MEANS TO KIND OF TO FULFILL WHAT THE CITY IS IS GETTING IN TERMS OF MATTRESSES IS ABOUT 200 A DAY. IT'S UPWARDS OF 50,000 MATTRESSES A YEAR THAT RECYCLING THERE ARE CERTAINLY COMING IN FROM BOSTON. THEY'RE CERTAINLY COMING IN TO BOSTON FROM OUTSIDE OF BOSTON BECAUSE IF YOU IF YOU DISPOSE OF A MATTRESS OUTSIDE THE CITY ,YOU HAVE TO PAY THE COST. THE RESIN HAS TO BE OF THE COST. SO IT'S A LOT EASIER FOR FOR WE CERTAINLY SEE WITH WITH HOMEOWNERS THAT OWN PROPERTIES INSIDE AND OUTSIDE THE CITY. WELL ALL THEIR OUTSIDE THE CITY MATTRESSES JUST END UP ON THE SIDEWALK IN THE CITY OF BOSTON. SO IT'S BEEN A MASSIVE BURDEN FOR US. WE CERTAINLY DEDICATED A LOT OF DOLLARS TO THE PROBLEM BUT IT'S CERTAINLY IT'S DEFINITELY NOT SOLVED AND IT GOES ALONG THE LINES WITH WITH ALL THE WE'RE SEEING THE SAME THINGS IN TERMS OF CARDBOARD, THE EXPLOSION OF CARDBOARD IN OUR RECYCLING STREAM. IT'S I MEAN WE'RE PICKING UP MORE AND MORE RECYCLING EVER IN THOSE BLUE BINS AND IT'S A LOT OF THESE LARGE BOXES THAT ARE COMING FROM AMAZON OR WHATEVER COMPANY THAT'S KIND OF LIKE YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE NOW GETTING STUFF DELIVERED BY CARDBOARD ON A DAILY BASIS. SO JUST THINKING ABOUT THE UPSTREAM UPSTREAM THING, THE MATTRESS THING CAN WE GET THE VENDORS OF THE MATTRESSES TO ACTUALLY WHERE YOU WOULD IF YOUR REFRIGERATOR YOU BUY A NEW REFRIGERATOR THE TAKE THE OLD REFRIGERATOR WEIGHS THAT SOMETHING SO SO JUST TO IT'S THAT REALLY QUICKLY WE RECENTLY SUPPORTED SOME EPR LEGISLATION THAT'S UP TO THE STATE IN ORDER TO DO THAT IT'S GOING THROUGH THE STATE HOUSE THROUGH THE DEP RIGHT NOW IS IS A HAS A BILL AND WE SUPPORTED IT. I THINK JOSHUA WROTE A LETTER OF SUPPORT OF SUPPORT OF THAT.  BUT WE ALSO IN THE CITY WE'VE REQUESTED THE DIRECTOR OF POLICY POSITION FOR TRASH TO START FOCUSING ON THIS ISSUES ON AS A LOCAL LEVEL IN THE NEXT BUDGET THAT THEY CAN WORK CLOSELY WITH THE STATE IS IS THAT WE'RE THE BIGGEST ENTITY IN THE STATE AND TO WORK CLOSELY WITH THEM AND KIND OF PUSH THE KIND OF LEGISLATION THAT WE NEED IN THIS MUNICIPALITY IF WE REQUESTED THAT POSITION. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU.  THANK YOU. THANK YOU. LYNN BREADON COUNCILOR WEBER THANK YOU CHAIR. I JUST I YOU MAY HAVE ALREADY DISCUSSED THIS BUT SO THERE'S THERE'S A NEW CONTRACT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2425 SO HOW WHAT'S YOUR EXPECTATION FOR HOW THAT WILL IMPACT SERVICES IN DISTRICT SIX YOU KNOW JAMAICA PLAIN WEST ROXBURY YEAH SO AS AS NOTED EARLIER, I THINK WE'RE YOU KNOW WE DO HAVE THE CONTRACT THE CURRENT COLLECTIONS CONTRACT IS EXPIRING AT THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR. WE ARE IN NEGOTIATIONS RIGHT NOW WITH THE COMPANY THAT SERVES THAT CONTRACT CAPITAL WASTE TO ENTER INTO A IT WILL TECHNICALLY BE A NEW CONTRACT BUT IT IS FUNCTIONALLY AN EXTENSION OF THE EXISTING CONTRACT.  WE ARE AT THIS POINT FOCUSED ON CONTINUITY OF SERVICE SO MAKING SURE THAT WE CONTINUE TO DELIVER THE SAME HIGH QUALITY SERVICE THAT WE DELIVER TODAY TO EVERY DISTRICT IN THE CITY.  THERE WILL BE OPPORTUNITIES IN THE ENSUING YEARS AND IN ESPECIALLY WHEN WE GO BACK OUT TO THE MARKET FOR A FULL REBUILD OF THE TRASH COLLECTIONS CONTRACT TO LOOK AT BIDDING OUT MORE SUBSTANTIAL SERVICE CHANGES. BUT RIGHT NOW THE FOCUS IS ON MAINTAINING EXISTING SERVICE LEVELS. ALSO AS I NOTED EARLIER THERE IS WE ARE ANTICIPATING A SUBSTANTIAL COST INCREASE ASSOCIATED EVEN WITH THIS RENEWAL DUE TO SOME OF THE ECONOMIC FACTORS AND FOR RECYCLING. SO I GUESS SOME PEOPLE YOU INCLUDED WONDER WHAT HAPPENS TO WHAT WE PUT IN THE BLUE BIN AND I THINK THERE'S BEEN SOME REPORTING IN OTHER PLACES THAT IT JUST GETS THROWN IN WITH THE REGULAR TRASH BUT SO HOW CAN YOU JUST JUST DESCRIBE THAT PROCESS? YEAH, I MEAN OUR BLOOP ALL OUR BLUE BABE MATERIAL GOES TO CASELLA OVER IN CHARLESTOWN WHICH IS A CENTER THAT KIND OF SORTS. IT AND THEY DO SORT IT AND SELL IT OFF AS A COMMODITY. SO IT'S YOU KNOW, MOST OF THAT THERE ARE SOME TRASH MATERIALS IF YOU'RE NOT PLACED IN THE PROPER MATERIALS IN THOSE BIN THOSE THAT THOSE TRASH MATERIALS ARE TAKEN OUT OF THE THING AND THEY THEY SPLIT IT ALSO YOU KNOW, THE MAIN SOURCES OF RECYCLING ARE ALUMINUM GLASS. YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE PLASTICS CARDBOARD THINGS LIKE THAT THAT THEY ALL GET SORTED AND SOLD AS A COMMODITY AND RECYCLED AND REUSED. YEAH.  EVEN FOR I FOR I CAN SPEAK FOR MYSELF SOMETIMES THERE'S STUFF GOING IN THE RECYCLING THAT MAY NOT BE ON THE LIST SO WHAT HAPPENS TO THAT STUFF IF IT'S ABLE TO BE RECYCLED INTO A INTO A MARKET AND IT WOULD BE SOLD OFF BUT IF IT'S NOT IT WOULD BE END UP IN THE TRASH STREAM. BUT PART OF OUR PART OF OUR GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE EDUCATING FOLKS AND I, I SEE THAT OF ASPIRATIONAL RECYCLING IN MY OWN HOUSEHOLD AND WE'LL SOMETIMES DO THAT SORTING OF PICKING STUFF OUT OF THE RECYCLE BIN AND PUTTING IT IN THE TRASH. BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY IT'S THERE'S A LOT OF NEED FOR INDIVIDUAL HOUSEHOLDS TO KNOW WHAT GOES WHERE AND TO MAKE GOOD DECISIONS ABOUT THAT AND WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE MAKE THAT INFORMATION EASILY AVAILABLE TO FOLKS IN THROUGH THE WORK OF THE TRASH FELLOW WE JUST HIRED. WE'RE GOING THROUGH A PROCESS OF UPDATING OUR WEBSITE SO THERE'S MORE EDUCATIONAL MATERIALS FOR OUR RESIDENTS TO SEE WHAT'S RECYCLABLE, NOT RECYCLABLE TO SEE THE LIFECYCLE OF WHAT HAPPENS TO OUR PRODUCTS. WHEN YOU PUT IN A BIG BAND WHERE WE'RE MAKING ALL WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE ALL THOSE UPDATES RIGHT NOW SO YOU'LL SEE A LOT MORE COMING OUT OVER THE NEXT YEAR ABOUT THE LIFE OF RECYCLING AND WHAT HAPPENS TO THE CITY OF BOSTON BLUE BIN RECYCLING THANK YOU CHAIR THANK YOU, COUNCILOR RUBBER COUNCILOR ANDERSON THANKS.  CHAIR HI. I JUST I, I APOLOGIZE. I CAME A LITTLE LATE. JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND YOUR CHALLENGES OVERALL LIKE WHAT WOULD YOU SAY ARE YOUR BIGGEST CHALLENGES RIGHT NOW? ARE I BEING JUST THE THE THE FACTOR OF PICKING UP 270,000 HOUSEHOLDS A WEEK IS A CHALLENGE IN ITSELF.  SO IT'S IT'S VERY DIFFICULT WORK. WE HAVE WE HAVE A DEDICATED CONTRACTOR OUT THERE IN CAPITAL WASTE OUT THERE PICKING UP OUR TRASH EVERY DAY WITH LITTLE TO NO ISSUES FOR THE MOST PART. BUT IT'S VERY, VERY CHALLENGING WORK. IT'S IT'S WORKING IN ALL TYPES OF WEATHER, ALL TYPES OF CONDITIONS.  IT'S WORKING IN VARIOUS TROPHIC LEVELS. IT'S WE'RE WORKING YOU KNOW, LIKE NAVIGATING THESE CITIES TOUGH TO NAVIGATE CITY STREETS SPECIALLY DOWNTOWN AND TIGHT STREETS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO IT'S A VERY CHALLENGING JOB FOR THESE PEOPLE IN AND TO FOR THEM TO STAY MOTIVATED IN YOU KNOW KEEP THEIR STAFF UP TO DATE HAS BEEN HAS BEEN CHALLENGING OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS STARTED WITH COVID BUT IT'S IT'S THE LABOR MARKET IN GENERAL AND GETTING BODIES IN THE STREETS TO DO THIS VERY VERY DIFFICULT JOB THANK YOU.  WOULD YOU SAY THEN THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY HERE TO INVEST IN INFRASTRUCTURE? IS THAT AN ISSUE AT ALL YOU YOU MENTIONED TIED STREETS WHAT OTHER TYPES OF INFRASTRUCTURE CHALLENGES DO YOU FACE? WELL, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE CERTAINLY LOOKING AT AS A CITY OF BOSTON IS HOW WE GET MORE TECHNOLOGY INNOVATIVE LIKE WITH OUR TRASH PICKUP IN THIS CERTAINLY THIS SOFTWARE PACKAGES THAT THE TRASH COMPANIES ARE USED TO LIKE ROUTE NAVIGATION AND HOW TO PICK UP MORE EFFICIENTLY AND EFFECTIVELY AND WE'RE CERTAINLY LOOKING AT ALL THOSE THINGS FOR THE NEXT LEVEL OF TRASH CONTRACTS. SO MAKING AN INVESTMENT IN TECHNOLOGY IN THE TRASH LEVEL WILL PAY OFF HUGE DIVIDENDS TO THE CITY OF BOSTON OVER THE LONG TERM.  BUT IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE LOOKING AT CURRENTLY. I KNOW THERE'S A CAPACITY DEFICIT OVERALL IN BOSTON BUT WITH THE CITY WHAT ABOUT YOUR DEPARTMENT IS AT CAPACITY AND ISSUE AS WELL? I MEAN WE'RE CERTAINLY WORKING WITH THE ADMINISTRATION AND ASKING FOR SOME POSITIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. WE'VE HAD SOME DIFFICULTIES FILLING CERTAIN POSITIONS AT TIMES BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN MY UNIT ANYWAY. WE'RE PRETTY CLOSE TO FULL CAPACITY WITH WHAT WE HAVE FOR AS A STAFF RIGHT NOW. DO YOU FEEL THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY HERE ALSO TO SPEAK WITH CONSTITUENTS OR COMMUNITY LEADERS WHO CAN WEIGH IN ON THEIR EXPERTISE OR EXPERIENCE WITH THIS?  YEAH, I MEAN ALL THE TIME WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME IN RESOURCES IN MY UNIT GOING OUT TO COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND GETTING FEEDBACK FROM VARIOUS CONSTITUENTS CITY COUNCILORS ARE WHERE WE'RE AT TOTALLY OPEN TO MEETING WITH EVERYBODY. EXPLAIN WHAT WE DO OUT THERE IN THE STREET, HOW WE CAN RECYCLE BETTER. PART OF OUR JOB HERE IS TO EDUCATE PEOPLE HOW TO BETTER RECYCLE, TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT IT'S A COMMUNITY EFFORT.  IT TAKES EVERYBODY TO BE INVESTED IN THESE TYPES OF THINGS AND TO MAKE SURE WE'RE RECYCLING THE RIGHT THINGS AND WE'RE YOU KNOW, WE HAVE LOW CONTAMINATION RATES IN OUR IN OUR RECYCLING UNIT.  SO WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON COMMUNITY EDUCATING PEOPLE. WE A TEAM OF THREE WASTE REDUCTION COORDINATORS THAT ARE KIND OF THERE TO KIND OF GO OUT TO ANY COMMUNITY MEETING AND KIND OF GIVE A PRESENTATION TO RESIDENTS AND AND LISTEN AND HEAR FEEDBACK ON HOW TRASH IS WORKING IN ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. THANK YOU SO MUCH CHIEF. YOU MENTIONED POLICY POSITION OR POSSIBILITY OF ONE. DO YOU HOW CAN THE COUNCIL SUPPORT ASSIST WITH THAT I MEAN I THINK YOU KNOW, WE'RE STILL OBVIOUSLY THE THE MAYOR'S BUDGET HAS NOT YET BEEN RELEASED AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH THE BUDGET OFFICE AND CERTAINLY LOOK FOR THE COUNCIL SUPPORT FOR ANY INVESTMENTS THAT THAT BUDGET PROPOSES IN THE WASTE REDUCTION UNIT AND OUR OVERALL EFFORTS HERE.  THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR , I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE COUNCILOR SANTANA. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR AND THANK YOU TO THE LEAD SPONSORS FOR BRINGING THIS UP AND SILENTLY THANK YOU TO THE PARTNERS FOR BEING HERE. I, I DON'T WANT TO MAKE YOU ALL REPEAT SOME OF THE STUFF THAT YOU'VE ALREADY SPOKEN TO.  I'LL MAKE SURE TO ALSO REVIEW THE RECORDING FROM FROM THE TIME THAT I SPOKE KIND OF WITH HIGH LEVEL SUPPORT AND I KNOW YOU MENTIONED A LOT OF EDUCATION WHICH I THINK IS VERY IMPORTANT IN TERMS OF HOW WE'RE ACCOMPLISHING HOWEVER RECYCLING WHAT WAS THERE AND YOU TALKED ABOUT THE OTHER THE THREE STAFFERS THAT GO OUT LIKE HOW OFTEN ARE THE STAFFERS GOING OUT AND COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND I KNOW YOU TALKED ABOUT THE WEBSITE AND YOU'RE UPDATING THAT.  CAN YOU SPEAK TO ANY OTHER OR KIND OF THINGS LIKE HOW YOU ARE BEING PROACTIVE ABOUT THE EDUCATION AND KNOW AND REACHING OUR RESIDENTS? YEAH. SO WE'RE BUILDING A LOT OF EDUCATIONAL MATERIALS THAT WE'RE POSTING ON OUR WEBSITE FOR RESIDENTS, LANDLORDS, PROPERTY MANAGERS, STUFF THAT THEY CAN HELP IN EDUCATE THEIR TENANTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO YOU KNOW GUIDES OR CYCLING GUIDES ALL THOSE TYPES OF THINGS WE'RE BUILDING ON OUR WEBSITE AND THAT THAT SENSE BUT IN TERMS OF OUR WASTE REDUCTION COORDINATORS WE GET REQUESTS FOR TO ATTEND COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND WE CERTAINLY ATTEND AS MANY AS WE CAN. THEY'RE PROBABLY PRETTY CLOSE TO A WEEKLY BASIS WHERE THEY'RE EITHER AT A COMMUNITY NIGHT MEETING SOME A HOUSING PROJECT ON THE DAY GIVEN OUT GIVING A PRESENTATION.  BUT WE TAKE ALL REQUESTS AND WE TRY TO FIND A TIME TO TO REACH ALL NEIGHBORHOODS AS WE GET AS WE GET REQUESTS TO GO OUT THERE AND KIND OF SIT WITH RESIDENTS AND PEOPLES TEND TO ENJOY THE TALKS. THEY TALK SO THEY LEARN A LOT ABOUT HOW WE RECYCLE, WHAT WE RECYCLE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THEY'RE VERY HELPFUL TO US BUT THEY'RE I THINK THEY'RE ALSO VERY HELPFUL TO RESIDENTS. I WOULD JUST ADD TO THAT WE ALSO THAT TEAM DOES MORE PROACTIVE OUTREACH IN THE CONTEXT OF LIKE COMMUNITY EVENTS AND FESTIVALS. SO IF YOU EVER GO TO OPEN STREETS OR A NEIGHBORHOOD FESTIVAL YOU'LL OFTEN SEE THAT GROUP WITH A TABLE THERE SIGNING PEOPLE UP FOR THE FOOD WASTE PROGRAM, DISTRIBUTING INFORMATION.  THE OTHER RESOURCE THAT HASN'T BEEN MENTIONED YET IS THE CITY'S TRASH DAY APP WHICH PROVIDES BOTH REMINDERS FOR WHEN YOU SHOULD PUT YOUR TRASH OUT AS WELL AS UPDATES ON THE SCHEDULE WHEN THERE'S HOLIDAYS OR OTHER IMPACTS AND IT PROVIDES A VERY EASY WAY TO LOOK UP WHAT GOES WHERE. SO IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER SOMETHING IS RECYCLABLE, THE TRASH MAKES IT REALLY QUICK TO DETERMINE WHETHER IT CAN GO IN THE RECYCLE BIN OR NOT. SO WE ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO DOWNLOAD AND USE THAT GIVEN THAT THAT'S SEPARATE FROM THE CITY OF BOSTON AND CORRECT IT SEPARATE FROM THE BOSTON 311 APP IT'S CALLED TRASH DAY TRASH OF IT I DON'T EVEN KNOW. OKAY THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW WHERE WAS I? YEAH I MEAN TO THAT POINT WITH EDUCATION PIECE I MEAN I'M I'M GLAD TO HEAR ALL THAT BUT ONE THING I DIDN'T HEAR AND MAYBE YOU ARE DOING IT AND I'M JUST OF THE PROACTIVE APPROACH TOWARD TOWARDS OUR YOUTH AND LIKE OUR WE'VE BEEN COLLABORATING WITH OUR REPS STUDENTS AND HIGH SCHOOLS AND MIDDLE SCHOOLS YOU KNOW, DON'T HAVE TO SPEAK TO EVER WILL HAVE TO PARTNER AND AND FIGURE OUT WAYS ALL OF A SUDDEN THE CHAIR OF EDUCATION SO THAT THAT'S WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR YOUTH ARE INCORPORATED IN THAT I'M NOT GOING TO FINISH NO NO I WAS NOT BUT THAT'S ACTUALLY SO WE DO WITH GPS HAS THEIR OWN ZERO WASTE TEAM THAT WE WORK VERY CLOSELY AND WE HAVE GONE OUT TO A FEW SCHOOLS AND GIVE THEM SOME PRESENTATION. IT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD DEFINITELY LOOKING FORWARD TO DOING MORE OF IN THE FUTURE BUT THEY DO HAVE A ZERO WASTE TEAM THAT WE WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH RIGHT NOW. I THINK IT'S A GREAT TIME TO THINK OF AS A CHAIR. THANK YOU COUNSELOR.  I WOULD LIKE TO START A SECOND ROUND OF QUESTIONS IF MY COLLEAGUES DO HAVE QUESTIONS SEE AND YESES FOR THE SECOND ROUND YOU HAVE 2 MINUTES PER QUESTIONS. SO STARTING WITH COUNCIL COUNSELOR DUNCAN I'M GOING TO GET A LITTLE THEORETICAL SO BEAR WITH ME IF WE WERE TO BREAK A BREAK UP TRASH IMPROVEMENT INTO BUCKETS INFRASTRUCTURE, PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY, DIVERSION OR SOMETHING ELSE HOW WOULD YOU RANK THOSE IN TERMS OF IMPORTANCE AND FEASIBILITY? BECAUSE I THINK A LOT OF TIMES IN OUR COMMUNITIES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT YOU KNOW, HOW CAN WE CAN GET PEOPLE TO KNOW THE RIGHT THINGS, HOW WE CAN GET THEM TO DO THE RIGHT THINGS AND OBVIOUSLY WE'RE TALKING AGAIN TOO ABOUT LIKE THE STRUCTURE AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING. WHAT DO YOU THINK WOULD HAVE THE MOST IMPACT?  YES, ALL OF THE ABOVE.  I MEAN I THINK I THINK THERE'S A FOUNDATION OF GOOD POLICY THAT WE NEED ESPECIALLY AS IT RELATES TO LARGER INSTITUTIONAL ACTORS, LARGE BUILDINGS, OTHER TYPES OF INSTITUTIONS. THE CITY LARGELY DOESN'T REGULATE TRASH OUTSIDE OF HOUSEHOLD TRASH BUT.  SOME OF THIS POLICY NEEDS TO HAPPEN AT THE STATE LEVEL. WE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE ISSUES WITH PRODUCER RESPONSIBILITY AND THE MATTRESS APPROACH TO THE STATE TOOK TO THE MATTRESS BED. SO I THINK ESTABLISHING A STRONG POLICY FOUNDATION YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO THEN PROVIDE SERVICES THAT ARE CONVENIENT AND ACCESSIBLE TO PEOPLE. WE NEED TO MAKE IT EASY FOR PEOPLE TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND THE CITY HAS INVESTED A LOT AND SPENDS A LOT TO HAVE FOR EXAMPLE, SINGLE STREAM RECYCLING THAT GETS PICKED UP EVERY WEEK WITH THE TRASH. WE HAVE A FOOD WASTE PROGRAM THAT HAS IS EXTREMELY CONVENIENT AND EASY TO USE AND SO YOU KNOW THESE YOU KNOW, EVEN THINGS LIKE MATTRESS PICKUPS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A PROGRAM IN PLACE WE'RE WORKING TO OPTIMIZE AND IMPROVE THE EXPERIENCE FOR PEOPLE TO SCHEDULE A PICKUP SO THAT THERE'S LESS DELAY AND THAT IT'S A IT'S A MORE STREAMLINED PROCESS. SO I THINK THAT'S KIND OF THE FIRST TWO LAYERS. BUT THEN THAT THIRD LAYER IS THE EDUCATION AND THE PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. I MEAN ULTIMATELY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF WASTE AND ESPECIALLY IF YOU THINK ABOUT REAL PLASTIC WILL USE PLASTICS, RIGHT? THAT IS YOU KNOW WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY THAT THAT SORT OF TELLS US LIKE JUST JUST BY THE BOTTLE OF WATER AND THEN YOU KNOW, FIGURE OUT GET RID OF THE PLASTIC BOTTLE. RIGHT. SO I MEAN I THINK SOME OF THAT IS ABOUT REDUCTION OF THE VOLUME OF WASTE AND ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO BE THOUGHTFUL ABOUT WHERE THEY USE THINGS THAT GENERATE WASTE WHERE THEY MIGHT HAVE A REASONABLE ALTERNATIVE WHETHER IT'S A REUSABLE WATER BOTTLE OR THINKING ABOUT PACKAGING CHOICES FOR THINGS BUT WHERE THERE IS WASTE AND THERE WILL THERE WILL ALWAYS BE A LOT OF IT. YOU KNOW THE GOAL IS TO GIVE PEOPLE THE KNOWLEDGE THAT THEY NEED TO MAKE THE RIGHT CHOICE ABOUT HOW TO DISPOSE OF IT. YOU KNOW, I THINK THE ONLY THING I PROBABLY ADD IS THE PRIORITIZATION AND INVESTMENT THAT NEEDS TO FOLLOW WITH WITH SETTING UP THIS TYPE OF POLICY. IF YOU LOOK AT THE CITY IN NEW YORK WHICH I YOU EARLIER WE'RE FOLLOWING CLOSING CONTAINERIZATION THEY'RE MAKING SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENTS IN TRASH AND AND I'VE GOT THEIR MEMO ON THE FUTURE OF TRASH YES SO THAT THAT STUDY ALONE THE CONTAINERIZATION STUDY THAT NEW YORK DID COSTS UPWARDS OF $5 MILLION AND THAT'S THAT'S THE INVESTMENTS THAT THEY'RE PUTTING IN THEIR TRASH AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CITY SHOULD PROBABLY BE CONSIDERING FOR THE LONG TERM.  I WILL ALSO JUST SAY TO THAT TO NEW YORK IS IS MAKING SOME VERY BOLD MOVES THAT HAVE SOME REAL TRADEOFFS ASSOCIATED WITH THEM . YOU KNOW, BY ONE ESTIMATE THEY'RE ELIMINATING 5% OF ON STREET PARKING SPACES CITYWIDE IN ORDER TO HAVE SPACE FOR SOME OF THE CONTAINERS. RIGHT. THAT'S A BIG DEAL AND THAT COMES WITH SOME REAL TRADEOFFS FOR FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITIES. SO I THINK THAT'S PART OF THIS CONVERSATION IS A BIG PART OF WHERE FOLKS ON THE COUNCIL AND COMMUNITY GROUPS COME IN IS TO HELP US FIGURE OUT WHAT TRADEOFFS MAKE SENSE IN THE CONTEXT OF WASTE REDUCTION. AND SORRY THIS IS MY MOST IMPORTANT QUESTION SO IF I RUN OUT OF TIME BEAR WITH ME . DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY LARGE BUILDINGS RECEIVE COLLECTION SERVICES AND WHAT IMPACT DOES THIS HAVE ON SERVICE ACROSS THE CITY? CAN YOU PLACE A DOLLAR AMOUNT ON TRASH COLLECTION STILL LARGE BUILDINGS ACROSS THE CITY? IS IT A COMMON PRACTICE ACROSS OTHER CITIES AND TOWNS FOR LARGE BUILDINGS TO RECEIVE PUBLIC TRASH COLLECTIONS SERVICES AND CAN YOU DEFINE THE UNIT COUNT OF WHAT DESIGNATES A LARGE BUILDING? I KNOW THAT'S A LOT AND I'M HAPPY TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION OFFLINE BUT I THINK ONE THING I WANT TO MAKE SURE IS THAT EVERY SINGLE LARGE BUILDING IN OUR CITY THAT'S NEWLY BEING THAT WE'RE CREATING REQUIREMENTS BECAUSE IF THE TRASH CONTRACT IS GOING TO GO UP AT THE PERCENTAGE WE'RE ANTICIPATING,  WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO TAKE OFF SOME OF SOME OF WHAT.  SO I WANT TO GET ON THAT CONCEPT OF WHAT IS A LARGE BUILDING TO YOU. SO CURRENTLY THE CITY DEFINES A LARGE BUILDING AS SEVEN UNITS OR MORE. THAT'S HOW WE CURRENTLY DEFINE THEM. NOW THAT'S DEFINED DIFFERENTLY NATIONALLY.  SOME CITIES TO FIND A DIFFERENT WAY IS 12 UNITS.  16 UNITS DEPENDS ON THE CITY AS FAR AS WE KNOW WE ARE ONE OF THE ONLY CITIES THAT PICKS UP AT LARGE BUILDINGS LIKE MOST OTHER CITIES EVEN THE CITIES THAT SURROUND US LIKE QUINCY AND THEN THINGS DON'T PICK UP THEIR LARGE BUILDINGS. SO BOSTON HAS ALWAYS ALWAYS PROVIDED THIS SERVICE AND CONTINUES TO PROVIDE THE SERVICE. THE ONLY RESTRICTION WE HAVE ON LARGE BUILDINGS RIGHT NOW IS WHEN A NEW BUILDING COMES ONLINE. WE THAT YOU HAVE TO BRING YOUR TRASH CURBSIDE. WE WILL NO LONGER GO TO THE BACK OF THE BUILDING AND SERVE AS A DUMPSTER WAY IN THE BACK OF THE BUILDING. YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE TO BRING YOUR TRASH CURBSIDE LIKE OUR RESIDENT WOULD AND THAT'S THE ONLY PROVISION. SO WE DO WE DO YOU KNOW, IN SOME NEW BUILDINGS ARE COMING ONLINE DON'T TAKE OUR SERVICE BECAUSE OF THAT THAT MEASURE THAT WE HAVE WE PUT IN PLACE BUT BUT WE CERTAINLY IF THEY WILL BRING IT CURBSIDE WE WILL SERVICE IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. LOOK FORWARD TO FOLLOWING ON THAT ONE. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR LOUIJEUNE THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CHAIR. AND AGAIN I JUST I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I HAVE SO MUCH RESPECT FOR SO MANY OF YOU DENNIS JOHN AND JOHN FOR ALL THE WORK WHENEVER MY OFFICE CALLS YOU WE'RE ALWAYS ON SITE WHETHER IT'S WITH THE GREATER GREAT AMOUNT OF HAND NEIGHBORHOOD COUNCIL , WHETHER IT IS WITH MOUNT PLEASANT AND VINE LIKE WE JUST YOU ARE THERE TO REALLY CREATE PILOT PROGRAMS TO REALLY BE AGGRESSIVE AS YOU AS YOU CAN. BUT THERE ARE LIMITS AND WE ARE FRUSTRATED WHEN WE HIT AGAINST THOSE LIMITS BECAUSE OUR OUR RESIDENTS TO LIVE IN NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE THERE AREN'T DUMPSTERS OVERFLOWING WHEN YOU JUST LOOK AT ONE ONE OWNER WHEN YOU LOOK AT APM ADVANCED PROPERTY MANAGEMENT ACROSS HYDE PARK, ACROSS MATTAPAN, ACROSS THE DORCHESTER TOTAL FINES OF $240,000 AND THESE FINES DO NOTHING. THEY LET THEM SIT THERE 760 COMMONS IN MATTAPAN 79 EASEMENT IN DORCHESTER 10 TO 20 THORNE STREET IN HYDE PARK 89 TENNIS ROAD 85 TENNIS ROAD 70 TENNIS ROAD IN MATTAPAN 7020 RIVER STREET 720 RIVER STREET HAS A LIST OF VIOLATIONS FOR SO MANY OVERFILLING OF BARREL ILLEGAL DUMPS, ILLEGAL DUMPING, IMPROPER STORAGE STASH OF TRASH FINE AFTER FINE AFTER FINE PAGES AND PAGES RIGHT THAT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND OUR NEIGHBORS ARE THEY WE DON'T GET THE REAL ONE THROUGH AND ONE ABOUT THIS BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE JUST SO TO US NOT PAYING ATTENTION. THEY'RE SO USED TO POLITICS GOVERNMENT JUST BEING DISAFFECTED AND DISAPPOINTED BY THAT. WE HAVE A PROBLEM PROPERTY TASK FORCE AND WE ARE YOU KNOW AND WE HAVE THE ABILITY RIGHT THAT THE LEGAL ABILITY TO PLACE LEANS ON PROPERTIES THAT ARE A BIT TRULY VIOLATING OUR CODE . WE DON'T SEE THAT HAPPENING.  WE SEE THE ONLY PLACES THAT ARE REALLY WHERE ENFORCEMENT IS HAPPENING IS WITH IF THERE'S BPD INVOLVEMENT. I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROBLEM PROPERTY TASK FORCE AND THE LIMITATIONS THAT WE FACE WHEN WE HAVE PROPERTIES LIKE IPM ACROSS NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAVE ALL OF THESE VIOLATIONS BUT WE AREN'T ABLE TO REALLY HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE AND SO I THINK THAT'S REALLY THE CRUX OF WHAT I CARE ABOUT WHAT MY WHAT OUR RESIDENTS CARE ABOUT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LARGE BUILDINGS. I THINK THERE'S A LOT WE NEED TO I THINK WE NEED TO BE PUTTING PRIVATIZATION FULLY ON THE TABLE TO EXPLORE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, WHAT ARE OTHER CITIES DOING. BUT THIS IS THIS IS UNFAIR AND IT IS A LETDOWN TO OUR NEIGHBORS WHEN YOU HAVE CORPORATE LANDLORDS OWNERS WHO DON'T CARE ABOUT FINES, WE HAVE TO BE MORE AGGRESSIVE WHEN WE'RE GOING AFTER MAKING SURE THAT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS REFLECT WHAT WE CARE ABOUT. RIGHT. WE ARE PUTTING MONEY TO CITY SERVICES AND WE HAVE THE ENFORCEMENT CAPABILITIES TO A CERTAIN EXTENT THERE'S A DISCONNECT AND SO I'M HOPING THAT YOU CAN TALK ABOUT THE PROBLEM FOR OUR PROPERTY TASK FORCE. WE HAD A HEARING ON THIS LAST YEAR. WE UPDATED AN ORDINANCE TO INCREASE THE FINES BUT YET WANT TO DO MORE WITH LIENS. BUT YOU KNOW, THEY'RE SYSTEMS THAT ARE NOT ABLE TO TALK TO EACH OTHER. SO I'M HOPING THAT YOU COULD TALK MORE ABOUT THIS. WE ARE ON TRACK VISITS AT LEAST EVERY TWO WEEKS WITH MY CHIEF OF STAFF AND SO MANY OF YOU AND WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO ATTACK THIS PROBLEM MORE HANDS ON WITH THE OWNERS OF THESE BUILDINGS. BUT WE'RE FACING THESE HURDLES AND I'M JUST HOPING THAT YOU CAN SPEAK TO THAT.  SO I'LL SEE IF MY COLLEAGUES WANT TO RESPOND DIRECTLY TO THAT QUESTION ABOUT THE PROBLEM PROPERTIES FORCE. BUT I GUESS I JUST WANT TO SAY YOU ARE 100% CORRECT, RIGHT? IF WE HAVE A SYSTEM OF FINES THAT DOES NOT PRODUCE BEHAVIOR CHANGE, THAT DOES NOT PRODUCE ACCEPTABLE OUTCOMES FOR OUR RESIDENTS, THEN IT'S NOT WORKING AND WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO FIX IT. SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT WE HAVE SOME BAD ACTORS IN THE CITY FOR YOU KNOW, FOR MOST FOLKS THEY GET A $200 TICKET AND THAT'S A WAKE UP CALL. BUT WHEN WE HAVE BAD ACTORS WHO ARE NOT RESPONSIVE TO THAT, IT'S ON US TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TOOLS WE NEED, WHAT TOOLS WE ALREADY HAVE AND HOW TO DEPLOY THEM IN A WAY THAT PRODUCES DIFFERENT OUTCOMES. SO I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A COMPLETE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION TODAY BUT YOU HAVE MY COMMITMENT THAT WE WILL WORK AS AN ADMINISTRATION IN AND WITH THE COUNCIL TO TRY TO FIND SOLUTIONS THAT PRODUCE BETTER OUTCOMES FOR RESIDENTS JUST AS JOHN HAS. JOHN SITS IN THE FRONT OF THE PROBLEM. SO AS YOU KNOW WE WORK WITH YES ,ABSOLUTELY EVERY ONE OF THOSE PROPERTIES THERE IS AN ISSUE. THE ISSUE IS WITH THE TWO SYSTEMS THEY DON'T TALK TO EACH OTHER. SO THE PROBLEM PROBLEM IS TASK FORCE.  WE CAN'T PUT THE LEADS ON THE PROPERTIES SO WHAT WE NEED WE WOULD DO IT OBVIOUSLY WE ARE ALSO WITH EMILY. SHE SET UP THE MEETING. WE NEED A SYSTEM WHERE THE OWNERSHIP IS UPDATED REGULARLY BECAUSE THE BOSTON HOUSING COURT AS WE TOLD YOU BEFORE, IS INSTRUCT US NOT TO PUT ANY LEADS ON PROPERTIES UNTIL WE CAN VERIFY THE OWNER'S INFORMATION. SO WHAT HAPPENS IS WHEN A PROPERTY GETS SOLD AND IT'S UPDATED IN THE SYSTEM, WHEN THE SYSTEM DOES AN UPDATE IT GOES BACK TO THE OLD OWNERSHIP. SO SOME OF THOSE PROPERTIES I'LL GIVE YOU PRIME EXAMPLES TWO MODELS ONE OF THE BIGGEST OFFENDERS IN THE CITY IS PROBABLY GET 40 PROPERTIES ON THAT LIST. 32 WAS PROBABLY SOLD IN THE LAST SEVEN YEARS. HE HASN'T HAD THEM BUT IS STILL COMING UP UNDER HIS NAME. SO THAT'S WHAT WE NEED WE NEED DO TO COME UP WITH A SYSTEM WITH BOTH BOTH SYSTEMS TALK TO EACH OTHER AND WHEN THE PROPERTY SOLD IT'S SOLD AND IT'S UPDATED IN REAL TIME AND THEN WE CAN GO BACK TO PUTTING ON THE LEAVE FOR THE COURTHOUSE. BUT AT LEAST FOR THESE WE KNOW THAT APN IS THE OWNER FOR THESE PROPERTIES. WHAT IS THE LIMITATION THERE? IT'S IF WE WENT BOSTON HOUSING COURT THEY WOULD SAY THEY WOULD SAY WE WEREN'T GOING TO PUT THE LEAN ON IT BECAUSE WE WE CAN'T WE CAN'T GUARANTEE THE COURTHOUSE. WE CAN TELL THE COURT IF WE KNOW IT'S THEIR OWNERSHIP AND THEY'RE GOING TO SAY NO BECAUSE OF THE BEFORE WHEN WE PUT THE LENS ON PROPERTIES WE HAD TO GO BACK AND REMOVE THEM THE LAST TIME WE PUT THE LENS WHEN WE WERE DOING THE LEASE IN 2016 THAT WAS THE LAST TIME WE DID THE LEASE AND JOHN, I WANT TO THANK YOU BECAUSE THAT YOU ARE SO DEDICATED TO ADDRESSING THESE ISSUES SO IT'S NOT IT'S JUST WE JUST NEED TO WORK ON THIS SYSTEM BUT THERE'S A BUDGET SYSTEM AND I KNOW I WANT TO THANK COUNCILOR BRITTON BECAUSE IT WAS HER LEADERSHIP IN TRYING TO GET US THERE BUT WE NEED TO GET THERE BECAUSE THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE ALL AND I KNOW YOU KNOW THAT AND I KNOW ALL OF US KNOW THAT AND SO I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN GET THERE THROUGH THESE MEETINGS AND IN THESE CONVERSATIONS BECAUSE OUR OUR RESIDENTS DESERVE BETTER. ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING I CAN DO TO HELP I OBVIOUSLY WOULD MAKE EVERYBODY'S LIFE EASIER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILOR FLYNN.  THANK YOU, CHIEF. HOW MUCH ARE WE SPENDING EACH YEAR ON TRASH PICK UP IN BOSTON FOR THAT CAPITAL CONTRACT WE'VE IT'S ABOUT 30, 30, 30 MILLION A OR 30 MILLION TO FETCH FOR COLLECTION.  WE ALSO HAVE TO PAY A DISPOSAL FEE. HOW MUCH IS THAT? IT'S I THINK CURRENTLY IT'S IS SOMEWHERE IN THE $40 MILLION ANNUALLY SO COMBINED IT'S PROBABLY $7,080 MILLION IN COLLECTION AND DISPOSAL IN RECYCLE NOW IS ALMOST AT THAT SAME LEVEL ISN'T IT SO RECYCLING HAS RECENTLY DROPPED IN THE LAST EIGHT MONTHS IT WAS AT THE SAME LEVEL OF TRASH AT ABOUT $120 A TONNE. IT'S NOW SITTING AT ABOUT $60 A TONNE IN THAT RANGE. SO IT HAS REALLY COME DOWN THE COMMODITY HAS INCREASED FOR RECYCLING AND WE ARE GETTING SOME BENEFIT FROM THAT NOW HOW MUCH ARE WE PAYING FOR RECYCLING ANNUALLY TO HAVE TO GET THAT EXACT NUMBER? I DON'T HAVE IT ON MY HEAD BUT IT'S WE'RE CURRENTLY PAYING $60 A TONNE, WE DO 40,000 TONNES. IS IT IS IT CLOSER TO 50 MILLION? IT'S PROBABLY CLOSER TO 2025 MILLION. OKAY. HOW MUCH ARE WE PAYING FOR THOSE PILOT PROGRAMS FOR COMPOSTING?  THE CURRENT PILOT PROGRAM FOR COMPOSTING IS PROBABLY I THINK IT'S ABOUT $10 MILLION. OKAY. SO PROBABLY SPENDING OVER $100 MILLION. OKAY. WHAT IS THE FIGURE THAT YOU NEED FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO ADVOCATE FOR FOR THIS COMING BUDGET? I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A SPECIFIC BUDGETARY NUMBER THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR THE COUNCIL TO ADVOCATE FOR. WE'RE WORKING WITH THE OFFICE OF BUDGET MANAGEMENT TO PUT FORTH IN THEIR FY 25 BUDGET PROPOSAL THAT MEETS THE NEEDS OF THE CITY AND ALLOWS US THE RESOURCES TO MEET THE GOALS THAT WE HAVE AND SO THAT WILL BE FORTHCOMING AND THAT AT LEAST NEED TO BE 125 MILLION. I WOULD ASSUME. RIGHT. I THINK SOME OF THAT STUFF MAY HAVE BEEN DOUBLE COUNTED THERE . I BELIEVE THAT 70 MILLION NUMBER IS INCLUSIVE OF OUR DISPOSAL, CORRECT? YEAH. SO WHAT WHAT ARE WE DOING ON PEST CONTROL? AS YOU KNOW, I'M TRYING ESTABLISH A STANDALONE CITY DEPARTMENT. WHAT'S THE LATEST ON PEST CONTROL AND I'M GLAD YOU GUYS HIGHLIGHTED AND JOHN'S DOING A TERRIFIC JOB IN HIS TEAM AS WELL THEY NEED MORE RESOURCES.  YOU HIGHLIGHTED IN NEW YORK CITY THEY HAVE THEIR STANDALONE PEST CONTROL DEPARTMENT. WHAT CAN WE DO TO IMPROVE THIS SITUATION?  SO THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION BECAUSE WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH A CONSULTANT ACROSS OUR CITY DEPARTMENTS TO COORDINATE OUR SERVICES AND LOOK AT OUR OPERATIONS. HOW IT AFFECTS RODENT POPULATION AND HOW WE CAN IMPROVE THAT.  COULD I BE COULD I LISTEN OR PARTICIPATE IN ONE OF THOSE MEETINGS? THAT'S AN ISSUE I CARE DEEPLY ABOUT SO WHEN YOU GUYS HAVE A MEETING ON PEST CONTROL, COULD YOU LET ME KNOW? ABSOLUTELY OKAY. I DON'T WANT TO GO OVER MY TIME MR AND MY YOU HAVE WELL, LET ME JUST HIT THE TIMER. NO, KNOCK THE TIMER. I WANT TO BE RESPECTFUL TO THE CHAIR. THANK YOU, SIR.  YOU COUNCILOR FITZGERALD THANK YOU, CHAIR. FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU ALL FOR WHAT YOU DO RIGHT. I KNOW HISTORICALLY MANY PEOPLE THAT COME TO VISIT THE CITY ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THEY SAY COMPARATIVELY TO OTHERS IS IT'S A CLEAN CITY AND THAT'S THANKS TO WHAT YOU GUYS DO. AND THAT'S SO IMPORTANT TO AS A AS A FIRST FOOT FORWARD IN AN IMPRESSION TO EVERYONE ELSE COMING TO VISIT THAT THAT'S WHAT STANDS OUT A LOT FOR FOLKS AND THAT'S THAT'S ALL BECAUSE OF YOU GUYS SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR MAKING OUR CITY GIVEN THAT CITY OUR REPUTATION.  SO I'M THINKING FORWARD TO THE REALITY. I KNOW WE TALK ABOUT THE NEXT THE CONTRACT UP IN THREE YEARS AND THE WORK WE'RE DOING TO THAT CONTRACT TO TRY AND ATTRACT MORE AND MAYBE BRING THE COSTS DOWN, GET MORE COMPETITION ETC. IF I'M THE AVERAGE RESIDENT IN BETWEEN NOW AND THAT CONTRACT WE DON'T HAVE ANY BIG CHANGES.  WE SHOULD JUST AS THINGS OPERATE TODAY AS I KNOW MY TRASH TO COME BY RIGHT THAT'S FOR MOST RESIDENTS THAT WILL STILL BE THE SAME UP AND FOR THAT FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS UNLESS THERE'S ANYTHING THAT YOU ALL THINK WE CAN DO IN THOSE THREE YEARS TO MAKE ANY RADICAL CHANGE BETRAYS JUST TRYING TO UNFORTUNATELY FUND FOR THE RISING COST.  BUT I'M JUST TRYING IF I'M A RESIDENT TO SAY THINGS WILL CONTINUE AS IS FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS AND HOPEFULLY IN THREE YEARS WE HAVE A YOU KNOW WITH THE NEW CONTRACT, A NEW INFRASTRUCTURE PERHAPS. BUT IS THAT ACCURATE IN SAYING THAT? YEAH, I MEAN IT'S IT'S MOSTLY ACCURATE. I DO THINK IN THE NEXT THREE YEARS WE WILL LOOK TO PILOT SOME PROGRAMS TO TEST THINGS OUT THAT WE MAY WANT TO TRY IN THE NEXT ITERATION OF CONTRACTS THAT WE WILL LOOK AND TRY TO BE INNOVATIVE WITHIN THOSE THREE YEARS AND WE'RE CERTAINLY LOOKING AT TECHNOLOGIES.  WE HAVE A TECHNOLOGY NOW THAT WE CURRENTLY EMPLOY THAT WE'RE TRYING TO EXPAND UPON TO HOPEFULLY DELIVER BETTER SERVICES TO THE RESIDENTS EVEN WITHIN THOSE THREE YEARS LIKE I MEAN WE CERTAINLY I THINK WE DO A GREAT JOB OF PICKING UP TRASH IN THE STREET BUT I CERTAINLY THINK WE CAN DO BETTER AND WE CAN LOOK AT TECHNOLOGIES AND PILOT PROGRAMS AND WAYS TO GET BETTER WITHIN THOSE THREE YEARS. SO THE NEXT ITERATION CONTRACTS WE BID ARE THE BEST CONTRACTS THAT WE HAVE FOR THE CITY. SO GREAT. WELL AS YOU KNOW THIS THIS BODY WILL ALWAYS LOOK TO HELP YOU GUYS IN PUSHING THOSE PILOTS OR WHATEVER WE CAN DO. PLEASE LET US KNOW SO THAT WE CAN ADVOCATE FOR THAT AS WELL.  BUT THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO. THANK YOU, JIM. IF I COULD JUST GIVE A SHOUT OUT I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT THE CLEANLINESS OF THE CITY NOT PRESENT HERE TODAY IS THE PUBLIC WORKS HIGHWAY DIVISION WHICH DOES STREET AND WORKS IN VERY CLOSE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE WASTE REDUCTION DIVISION.  YOU KNOW WHEN THERE'S A ISSUE WITH MATTRESSES OR WHEN THERE'S A CODE VIOLATION IN THERE, THE FOLKS WHO COME AND HELP MAKE SURE THAT THE STREETS GET CLEANED IN, YOU KNOW, AFTER AN ISSUE HAS HAPPENED SO REALLY IS A TEAM EFFORT AND A PARTNERSHIP AMONGST MULTIPLE DIVISIONS AND PUBLIC WORKS. AND I JUST WANT TO, YOU KNOW, SHARE YOUR PRAISE ACROSS THE TEAM PLEASE. PLEASE PASS IT ALONG. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.  THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN COUNCILOR BREADON, I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE SUFFOLK COUNTY ON THE PROBLEM PROPERTIES ISSUE. WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR YEARS AND IT'S IT'S IT'S A PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE TO REALLY TACKLE. IT'S NOT SHOULDN'T BE INSURMOUNTABLE LIKE THE SUFFOLK COUNTY REGISTRY OF DEEDS HAS UP TO DATE DATA ON WHO IS THE CURRENT OWNER OF THESE PROPERTIES.  IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN GET OURSELVES ON THE SAME OR USE TECHNOLOGY TO AT LEAST UPDATE THAT ON A MONTHLY BASIS LIKE I THINK THAT'S A CONVERSATION WE NEED TO HAVE WITH WITH STEPHEN MURPHY OVER THERE STEPHEN MURPHY OVER THERE BUT THIS IS WE CAN'T KEEP DOING THIS.  THIS HAS TO HAVE THESE BAD ACTORS YEAR ON YEAR ON YEAR.  WE'VE BEEN TALKING THIS IS FOUR YEARS INTO THIS AND I FIGHT THIS IS MY FIFTH YEAR AND WE'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT THIS SO I'M NOT BLAMING YOU FOLKS BUT WE HAVE TO FIGURE THIS OUT. THIS IS THIS IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT.  I AGREED AND I CAN'T COME TO YOU TODAY WITH A CLEAR ANSWER ON EXACTLY HOW WE WILL FIGURE IT OUT. BUT I CAN SAY, YOU KNOW, THE THE TEAM THAT YOU SEE HERE IS COMMITTED TO WORKING ON THIS AND WE WILL REACH OUT TO OUR COLLEAGUES IN THE ADMINISTRATION WHO HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS TO SEE WHAT THERE IS WE CAN DO BOTH TO ACCELERATE MORE SYSTEMIC SOLUTIONS. BUT WHETHER THERE ARE ANY SHORT TERM MEASURES WE COULD TAKE THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO, YOU KNOW, MOVE AGAINST THE WORST ACTORS WHILE WE FIGURE OUT THE LONGER TERM SOLUTION. SO IT'S WORK WE NEED TO DO.  THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD WAS ABOUT CHIME THE CENTER FOR DIFFICULT TO RECYCLE MATERIALS. WE GOT ARPA MONEY FOR THAT LIKE WHERE WE ARE WITH THE IDEA OF SETTING UP THAT CENTER AND HOW IS THAT GOING I MEAN WE WE'RE SO WE ARE STILL PURSUING A SITE TO PUT THAT LOCATOR TO PUT A LOCATION FOR A CHIME.  WE'RE LOOKING AT VARIOUS OPTIONS IN THE CITY BUT ONE OF THE DIFFICULTIES WE'VE HAD IS LOCATING A PROPER SITE TO PUT THE CHARM ON SO WE'RE STILL WE'RE STILL WORKING WITH A CONSULTANT IN AN INNER CITY TEAM ABOUT WHERE WE CAN LOCATE THAT AND PUT THAT FACILITY AND HOW HOW ARE WE DOING WITH OUR ZERO WASTE GOALS? WE HAVE A WE HAVE A TARGET FOR GOING TO ZERO WASTE AS OF 2030, 25, 2035, 2035 HOW ARE WE DOING? THE CITY STILL MAINTAINS A 20% DIVERSION RATE SO 20% OF OUR MATERIALS GET DIVERTED TO RECYCLED MATERIALS.  WE ARE CERTAINLY TRYING TO PUT MEASURES IN PLACE THAT STRIVE FORWARD FOR THOSE VERY AGGRESSIVE GOALS SO I THINK IT'S AN ISSUE NATIONALLY A LOT OF NATIONAL PLACES HAVE VERY AGGRESSIVE GOALS THAT PEOPLE ARE STRIVING TOWARDS BUT FINDING IT VERY DIFFICULT TO MEET DUE TO A LOT OF THE ISSUES WE DISCUSSED HERE TODAY LIKE THIS IS SOME OF THE SOME OF THE SOME OF THE COMPANIES THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR WASTE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. IT WAS STILL WE'RE STILL NAVIGATING. VERY GOOD. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU COUNCILOR COUNCILOR WEBER.  THANK YOU, CHAIR. I GUESS PICKING UP ON THE PROBLEM OF PROPERTY OWNERS, YOU KNOW, IS IS DO YOU THINK THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT LIKE WE HAVE CORPORATIONS ABSENTEE LANDLORDS BUYING UP PROPERTIES? IS THAT A PROBLEM WITH ENFORCE? DOES THAT CREATE A PROBLEM WITH ENFORCEMENT THE BIG CORPORATIONS? YEAH.  THEY JUST COME IN, THEY GET $100 FINE AND THE CHOCOLATE IS COST OF DOING BUSINESS. SO ULTIMATELY SOME OF THE FINES WILL PROBABLY NEED TO BE RAISED TO GET THEIR ATTENTION. THAT WOULD BE NICE SUGGESTION ABSENT ANYTHING ELSE OTHER THAN DISCUSSING LEANS THINGS LIKE THAT I MEAN ANYTHING ELSE YOU'VE SEEN AROUND THE COUNTRY THAT YOU THINK MIGHT WORK NOW ULTIMATELY THE BEST THING FOR US WOULD BE THE LEANS IF IT IS IF THEY TRY TO GO SELL THE BUILDING THEY CAN IF THERE'S A MUNICIPAL LEAN ON THE PROPERTY THEY'D HAVE TO PAY IT OFF. SO WE JUST NEED TO GET THAT SYSTEM STRAIGHTENED OUT SO WE TO ACTUALLY PUT THE LEASE ON THE BUILDINGS. I'LL ALSO ADD THAT WE'VE MENTIONED IN HERE LIKE THE THE ABILITY FOR LIKE FOR BIG BUILDINGS TO KIND OF HAVE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR OWN TRASH AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO ACHIEVE ANY KIND OF ZERO WASTE GOALS UNTIL PEOPLE OWN THEIR OWN TRASH.  WE WE DEAL WITH BIG BUILDINGS THAT DON'T RECYCLE WELL BECAUSE THEY DON'T NEED TO RECYCLE WELL BECAUSE WE JUST COME TO THE CURB AND WE PICK UP THEIR TRASH WHENEVER IT'S PUT OUT AND THEY DON'T FEEL THE NEED TO PUT MORE OF STUFF IN RECYCLED MATERIALS BECAUSE THEY DON'T BEAR THAT COST THE CITY BEARS THAT COST. SO WHEN OTHER JURISDICTIONS ACROSS THE COUNTRY MAKE BIG BUILDINGS RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR OWN TRASH THEN THEY STOP RECYCLING BETTER BECAUSE THEY MANAGE IT, THEY MANAGE THE COST OF IT AND IT'S THAT OWNERSHIP AND IT'S IT'S CLEARLY WRITTEN IN THE ZERO WASTE PLAN THAT WE HAVE TO PUT OWNERSHIP I MEAN RESPONSIBILITY ON CONSUMERS AS WELL TO MANAGE THEIR TRASH IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE ZERO WASTE. SO THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS WE NEED TO KIND OF PUT IN PLACE IN TERMS OF POLICIES.  OKAY. OKAY. JUST BRIEFLY IN WEST ROXBURY, HAZARDOUS WASTE DROP OFFS ON GARDINER STREET I'VE HEARD FROM PEOPLE THAT THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH AND IT CREATES A LONG BACK UP AT ITS HEART. IS THERE ANY PLANS TO ADDRESS THAT? YEAH. SO THERE HAVE BEEN BACK UPS IN PREVIOUS YEARS. I THINK THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS WE'VE MANAGED THEM DOWN TO ABOUT A MAYBE 15 MINUTE MAXIMUM WAIT SOMETIMES YOU CAN SHOW UP AND NOT WAIT BUT IT'S BEEN 1520 MINUTES AT MCC. WE'VE MANAGED THOSE DOWN LIKE I'M SORRY WE'RE ABOUT AN HOUR WAIT TIME SOMETIMES IN THE PAST OR YEAH I WOULD SAY CHEESE GOING BACK TEN YEARS NOW WE WERE AT TWO AND A HALF HOURS. WE HAD SOME HORROR STORIES OF CARS CATCHING ON FIRE AND CARS RUNNING OUT OF GAS AND SO WE'RE THIS TEAM HAS BROUGHT THE BARGE EVERY GORMAN DENNIS ROACH CHRISTINE SHELLY HAS BROUGHT IT DOWN. YES. IT'S NOT A PERFECT WAY TO SPEND YOUR SATURDAY IF YOU BACKED UP 15, 20, 25 HALF AN HOUR. BUT WE WERE AT TWO AND A HALF HOURS AND 2010 THANKSGIVING WEEKEND.  SO I THINK GREAT CREDIT TO THIS TEAM FOR ADDING MORE PUTTING THEM ACTUALLY IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITY, BRINGING THEM DOWN TO FRONTAGE ROAD FOR FOLKS WHO ARE DOWNTOWN DON'T NEED TO GO OUT TO WEST ROXBURY HAS ACTUALLY GONE A LONG WAY IN OFFERING THAT AND I WILL ADD THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO PUT THESE AND OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS THAT THE CHALLENGE WE'VE HAD IS TO FIND A BIG ENOUGH LOCATION THAT CAN HOUSE 900 CARS A DAY AND HAVE EASY ACCESS DRIVE THROUGH SO WE'VE WE'VE OPENED IT UP TO FEW OTHER COUNCILS. IF WE CAN FIND AS A PIECE OF PROPERTY WE'LL LOOK AT IT AND HOST THE HOUSES WASTE DAY WE JUST DON'T WANT TO HOST TOO MUCH ROXBURY INTO IT FRONTAGE ROAD WE WANT TO SPREAD THEM OUT. WE'VE STARTED DOING THAT BY DOING POP UP EVENTS IN A POP UP EVENTS WE USUALLY HANDLE ONE OR TWO MATERIALS USUALLY E-WASTE OR PAPER SHREDDING AND WE GO INTO A SMALLER THING. WE SERVICE ABOUT 200 CARS AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT IN SOME NEIGHBORHOODS BUT WE'RE CERTAINLY LOOKING TO SPREAD THESE OUT ACROSS ACROSS THE CITY IF THERE'S IF WE CAN FIND A LOCATION THIS IS ONE OF THE POTENTIAL UPSIDES OF A CHARM FACILITY IS TO MAKE THIS LESS OF A SPECIAL EVENT AND MORE OF AN EVERYDAY THING THAT YOU CAN JUST GO AND DROP STUFF OFF. SO THAT'S PART OF THE REASON FOR WANTING TO MORE AGGRESSIVELY PURSUE A CHARM IS TO TAKE THE THE STUFF THAT WE CAN HANDLE ON AN EVERYDAY BASIS FOR DROP OFFS OUT OF THAT LINE OF CARS SO THAT YOU KNOW WE'RE MAYBE ONLY DEALING WITH A FEW SPECIALTY MATERIALS IN THOSE SPECIAL DAYS. THANK YOU JIM.  COUNCILOR ANDERSON THANK YOU, MR CHAIR CHIEF MY MY TEAM OR MY OFFICE COMMUNICATED WITH ICE-T AND THEY TALKED ABOUT HOW THERE'S A RAT CZAR CZAR COORDINATOR TYPE BUT NOT SPECIFICALLY CZARS. IS THAT CAN YOU CLARIFY THAT? YEAH. YEAH. YOU KNOW WHAT, JOHN? THAT'S WHAT THEY HAVE. SO WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE A READ TO YOU RIGHT?  THANK YOU. BUT WE WE ARE WORKING WITH A CONSULTANT CITYWIDE TO COORDINATE ACROSS CITY DEPARTMENTS LOOKING AT ALL HOW ALL OF OUR OPERATIONS AFFECT ROAD AND POPULATION AND HOW WE SHARE INFORMATION TO MAKE US MORE EFFICIENT. DO YOU DO YOU ANTICIPATE A TIMELINE ON THAT ONLY NO PRESSURE AND I WANTED TO ECHO MY COLLEAGUE'S STATEMENTS ABOUT THE CITY BEING A BEAUTIFUL AND CLEAN I AM A FAN. I FOLLOW YOUR PAGES ON SOCIAL MEDIA, THEN I RETWEET THEM AND I SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH TO ALL OF YOUR WORK EVERY SINGLE TIME YOU TWEET IF OF COURSE IT PERTAINS TO DISTRICT SEVEN, IF IT SAYS ROSLINDALE, I'M NOT TOUCHING IT BUT I APPRECIATE ALL OF THE WORK ACROSS THE CITY THAT THIS SEEMS TO BE A REALLY CONTENTIOUS ISSUE.  CONSTITUENTS I'VE MET WITH THEM WE'VE DONE COFFEE HOURS, WE'VE BRAINSTORMED AND THEY SEEM TO THINK THAT IT'S EITHER OBVIOUSLY A POLICY ISSUE OR A BUDGET ASK WHERE WE'RE ADDING PEOPLE BUT YOU'RE SAYING A CONVERSATION NEEDS TO BE HAD WITH CONSULTANTS, SUGGESTIONS OR RECOMMENDATIONS BEFORE WE MOVE TOWARD CAN YOU EXPAND ON THAT? RIGHT. SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THE CONSULTANT. WE EXPECT MAYBE EARLY SUMMER THAT WILL HAVE THE ASSESSMENT OF OF THE OPERATION AND THEN MOVING FORWARD WE'LL HAVE SOME KIND OF WORKING GROUP WITH WOOD CITY DEPARTMENTS ON THE BEST WAY TO ADDRESS IT. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. I THINK THAT SOME MISCONCEPTION TOO IS THAT YOU KNOW, IN MARGINALIZED OR CONGESTED POPULATED AREAS AND BOSTON SEEMS LIKE EVERYWHERE IS GOING TO BE POPULATED THAT THERE'S LESS TRASH PICKUP OR LESS ACCOUNTABILITY AND I DISAGREE. I HAVE TO SOMETIMES REEDUCATE THE COMMUNITY THAT THAT IS NOT THE CASE. WE HAVE TWO DAYS IN AND AS OPPOSED TO ONE IN SOME AREAS AND ARE THERE AND I KNOW THAT I HEAR THAT THERE'S OUTREACH, THERE'S WAYS OF THE COORDINATORS GO OUT AND EDUCATE AND DO MEETINGS ALSO EMAILS ARE THERE PEOPLE WERE MISSING AND I'D LOVE TO JOIN YOUR CONVERSATION AS WELL. THIS IS A HUGE ISSUE IN SOUTHEND IN TERMS OF THE ROAD AND PROBLEM BUT JUST RECOMMENDATIONS AND I LEAVE THAT TO A MEETING AND I LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING THAT CONVERSATION SO THAT I CAN REPORT BACK TO MY CONSTITUENTS THAT I FOLLOWED UP AND THAT WE'RE WORKING ON POLICY AND WE'RE WORKING ON THE BUDGET AND THERE ARE THINGS HAPPENING EARLY SUMMER MAYBE BY THE END OF THE YEAR WE HAVE SOME SOLUTIONS.  YES. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR , BECAUSE THAT LEAVES ME AND I HOLD MYSELF ACCOUNTABLE TO 2 MINUTES. LET ME START THE TIME.  SO A FEW WEEKS AGO I RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM A FORMER RESIDENT THAT WAS COMPLAINING ABOUT PRIVATE PICK UP TRASH PICKUP OVERNIGHT. THEY'VE BEEN PICKING UP TRASH AROUND TWO THREE IN THE MORNING WHICH IS INTERRUPTING SLEEP OBVIOUSLY THAT HAS THAT'S NOT THE FIRST TIME I RECEIVE THAT KIND OF EMAIL OR COMPLAINT.  SO MY QUESTION IS IS THERE A LAW THAT PROHIBITS PRIVATE COMPANIES FROM COLLECTING TRASH IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT SO THERE'S A THERE'S A STATE ORDINANCE THAT THE CITY OF BOSTON HAS NO MANDATE OVER COMMERCIAL TRASH PICKUP AND THAT'S WHAT THAT IS IN THAT THERE IS A STATE ORDINANCE THAT TRASH HAS TO BE PICKED UP COMMERCIALLY BETWEEN 11 P.M. AND 7 A.M.. SO IT WAS JUST 6:06 P.M. AND 7 A.M. IT HAS TO BE PICKED OVERNIGHT COMMERCIALLY AND THAT'S A STATE ORDINANCE THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT AND I THINK TO YOUR TO YOUR TOPIC OF EDUCATING THE PUBLIC I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO TO EMPHASIZE BECAUSE A LOT OF RESIDENTS I DON'T THINK UNDERSTAND THAT AND I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT YEAH WE WE RECENTLY HAVE STARTED PULLING UP SOME OF THIS OLD ORDINANCE INFORMATION THAT STATE IN THE STATES UNITY WATCH AND CODE AND WE'RE STARTING TO TRY TO PUT IT ON OUR WEBSITE SO PEOPLE GET IN SOME SOME OF LIKE FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS.  WE'VE CERTAINLY WORKED WITH NUMEROUS COUNCILORS IN THEIR STAFF ABOUT UPDATING THEM ON THOSE ORDINANCES BUT IT IS SPECIFICALLY WRITTEN THAT THE CITY OF BOSTON HAS NO JURISDICTION OVER THAT. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT AND THEN COUNCILOR FLYNN BROUGHT UP THE TOPIC OF HOKIES. I WANT TO KNOW IF WE HAVE MORE POSITIONS AVAILABLE FOR THEM IF WE HAVE ROOM FOR MORE. I REPRESENT A DISTRICT THAT HAS THREE MAIN STREET QUARTERS OF MATTAPAN SQUARE CLEARY SQUARE IN ROTHWELL SQUARE HEAVY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT BUT WITH A COME WITH A LOT OF TRASH AS WELL. SO CONSTANTLY THERE'S TRASH ON THE FLOOR BECAUSE YOU KNOW IT'S PEDESTRIANS DROPPING THINGS.  WHAT CAN I ADVOCATE FOR IN THE BUDGET OR IS THERE POSITIONS AVAILABLE THAT I CAN ADVERTISE TO THE COMMUNITY? SURE.  SO LET SORRY HOKIES ARE TO COUNCIL FLYNN'S POINT AND TO YOUR POINT TO ME THEY'RE THE MOST IMPORTANT EMPLOYER IN THE CITY OF BOSTON.  THEY CARE ABOUT THE AREA THAT THEY SWEEP. THEY CARE ABOUT THE AIR THAT THEY MAINTAIN. THEY THEY THEY BUILD RELATIONSHIPS WITH BUSINESSES, RESIDENTS AND WE DO HAVE A VOLUME OF HOKIES WITH 20 FULL TIME HOKIES. AND WHEN I SAY WE THE PUBLIC WORKS THOSE UNDERNEATH ANY OF THESE GREAT LEADERSHIP THOSE THOSE ARE 20 FULL TIME EMPLOYEES. WE ALSO EVERY SEASON AT SEASONAL HOKIES THOSE SEASONAL HOKIES ACTUALLY IT STARTS THAT CAREER LADDER WHERE YOU COME IN AS A SEASONAL HOKIE YOU DO WELL, YOU LIKE IT. YOU STAY YOU MIGHT GET A LICENSE, YOU GET YOU KNOW, THEN YOU KIND OF MOVE UP THE RANKS. SO IT KIND OF IT DOES EVERYTHING IT IT IT CLEANS CLARY'S SQUARE, IT CLEANS NUBIAN SQUARE. IT CLEANS THEY CLEAN HANOVER STREET. THEY CLEAN IT. THEY DO A LOT.  BUT THEN THEY ALSO GET A CHANCE TO GET A FULL TIME JOB AND GET AND GET INTO THAT CAREER LADDER . SO IT KIND OF IT SERVES ALL PURPOSES THE 20 FULL TIME EMPLOYEES. I THINK RIGHT NOW THEY'RE PROBABLY AT ABOUT 14 OF 20 FILLED WHICH CAN GIVEN A LABOR SITUATION IS AN AWFUL CAN BE TO SOME OTHER SOME OF THE OTHER RATINGS THAT DANNY AND ME HAVE TO JUST AREN'T FILLED WITH SPECIALTY LICENSES AND THEN EVERY SEASON TO START TO SEASON WE GET WE THEY ADD BETWEEN ABOUT EIGHT AND 12 SEASONAL HOKIES THOSE SHOULD BE COMING ON BOARD IN THE NEXT I'D SAY INSIDE OF A MONTH WHICH ALLOWS AGAIN TO GET HOKIES YEAR USED TO BE A DOWNTOWN HOCKEY PROGRAM WE WE TOOK IT AND PUT IT EVERYWHERE SO EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD CAN SEE IT CAN GET THAT GREAT WORK FROM THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO DO TAKE THOSE ROLES THOSE ARE NOT EASY JOBS TO HAVE THOSE JOBS SEE BAD ELEMENTS YOU KNOW, RAIN, SNOW IF THEY'RE IN IN THE WINTER AND THEY DO THEY DO VALUED GREAT WORK TO KEEP OUR CITY HOPEFULLY GETTING THE KUDOS AND CREDIT THAT I THINK WE ALL APPRECIATE HEARING TODAY.  THANK YOUR HOKIES WHEN YOU SEE THAT THEY REALLY ARE WORKING HARD SERIOUSLY I'LL I'LL JUST TAKE THIS MOMENT TO ALSO JUST THANK YOU FOR THE WORK THAT YOU'VE HELPED ME WITH HONESTLY SO I'M LOOKING AT MIKE BECAUSE EVERY TIME I CALL YOU YOU ALWAYS STEPPED UP TO THE PLATE IF IT'S JUST CLEANING A SPECIFIC CORNER OR CLEARING UP SOME DRY ICE ON SOME BLACK ICE ON THE ON THE ROAD THAT HAS LED TO SLAVERY.  SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO. BUT I WANT TO ASK MY COLLEAGUES IF THEY HAVE ANY LAST MINUTE QUESTIONS BEFORE I OPEN IT UP TO PUMP UP PUBLIC TESTIMONIES. I ACTUALLY HAVE A YES.  I WANT TO JUST SAY YOU KNOW, I FILED A HEARING ORDER ON THIS AND COUNCILOR DURKIN DID AS WELL AND SO WE TRIED TO MERGE THEM TOGETHER.  SHE TOOK PRECEDENCE UNDER THE RULES. I COULDN'T FILE MINE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE I PUT ALL MY QUESTIONS ON THE RECORD. I WANT TO GET BACK TO THE QUESTION OF PRIVATIZATION AND WHETHER WE'VE SEEN THAT WORK IN OTHER CITIES. THE MODEL OF PRIVATIZING TRASH PICKUP FULLY. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK TO? HOW IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE EXPLORING THAT WE'VE THOUGHT ABOUT?  CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT YOU MEAN BY PRIVATIZING FULLY? WELL, WHETHER INTEREST PRIVATIZING FOR A LARGE BUILDING IS A SEVEN HOUR PLUS SEVEN OR MORE. SO MY OFFICE WE'VE OFTEN BEEN TALKING WITH A NUMBER OF YOU I THINK PARTICULARLY WITH YOU, DENNIS, ABOUT WHAT WOULD IT LOOK LIKE TO REQUIRE MULTIPLE PICK UPS FOR LARGE BUILDINGS AS ARE THE BUILDINGS THAT HAVE SEVEN OR MORE UNITS RIGHT WHERE THAT WOULD GET AT NOT YOU KNOW, THE APMS IT WOULD GET AT SOME OF THE HARDER YOU KNOW I THINK COUNCILOR WEBER MENTIONED A QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER CORPORATIONS WHETHER IT'S HARDER WE HAVE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARE OWNED BY TRUSTS. IT'S A ONE OF THE IT'S AN ISSUE THAT WE SEE IN MATTAPAN AND IT'S A IT'S IT'S DIFFICULT TO SORT OF REALLY HELP NUMBER ONE IDENTIFY OWNERSHIP BUT ALSO GET A TRY TO HELP RESOLVE THESE ISSUES WITH A HUMAN. SO THERE REQUIREMENT OF PRIVATE PICKUP WHETHER IT BE YOU KNOW REQUIRING PRIVATE PICKUP AT LARGE BUILDINGS UNIT BUILDINGS WITH SEVEN OR MORE UNITS OR A WHOLLY PRIVATIZED SO I WANTED TO JUST PUT THAT ON THE FLOOR TO SEE IF YOU ALL ARE GIVING IT SOME THOUGHT AND WHAT WOULD THAT COULD LOOK LIKE.  I MEAN IN TERMS OF PICKING IT UP IT LARGE BUILDINGS WE'VE OBVIOUSLY GIVEN IT A LOT OF THOUGHT BECAUSE MOST JURISDICTIONS AROUND US REQUIRING THEY REQUIRE PRIVATIZATION OF LARGE BUILDINGS. I THINK IT ALSO COMES WITH A LEVEL OF ENFORCEMENT IT'S NOT THAT EFFECTIVE IF YOU'RE NOT OUT THERE ENFORCING IT AND WE'VE CERTAINLY BEEN IN CERTAIN PROPERTIES IN MATTAPAN AND ALL ACROSS THE CITY THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE LEVEL OF ENFORCEMENT TO KIND OF KEEP TRACK OF THESE PROPERTIES.  WE HAVE JOHN IS OF 15 CODE ENFORCEMENT STAFF RIGHT NOW 15 CONTROLS FOR US THAT SERVES THREE SHIFTS CITYWIDE SO IT'S NOT THIS BUT OVER THREE SHIFTS CITYWIDE. SO IT WOULD BE IT WOULD BE ADDING THAT ENFORCEMENT TO IT. AS FOR PRIVATIZATION WHOLLY WE I DON'T THINK WE'VE CONSIDERED AS AS A CITY YET I DON'T THINK IT'S A MODEL THAT REALLY FITS A CITY PER SE.  WE'RE CERTAINLY WATCHING OTHER LARGE CITIES AND WHAT THEY DO THIS IS THE CITIES NOW THAT ARE HOLDING LARGE BUSINESSES IN THEIR DISTRICTS ACCOUNTABLE, PAYING FOR PAYING FOR THE TRASH BILL FOR THE ENTIRE CITY AND WE'RE CERTAINLY WATCHING THOSE CITIES AND WHAT HAPPENS AND THAT'S WHY WE WE GOT A FELLOW AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE SEEKING A POLICY PERSON IS TO CONTINUE THAT WORK TO WATCH THE CITIES DO AND SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN BRING TO BOSTON BECAUSE I'M JUST THINKING IF WE PRIORITIZE IT FOR LARGE BUILDINGS THAT WE COULD EASE UP OUR ABILITY TO LIKE MANDATE RECYCLING OR FOR US TO CONTROL THE CYCLING OF THE CITY OR FOR US TO PICK UP THE COMPOSTING PROGRAM THAT I UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE NOW PARTNERING WITH A THIRD PARTY WHO COMES AND PICKS UP MY COMPOST BIN EVERY FRIDAY MORNING SO SHOUT OUT TO THE COMPOST PROGRAM. BUT I JUST YOU KNOW THAT REQUIRING THAT COULD EASES UP IN CERTAIN OTHER AREAS TO YEAH I AGREE YEAH AND I ALSO WANTED TO PUT ON THE TABLE BOSTON HOUSING AUTHORITY THEY ARE YOU KNOW HAVE BEEN DOING SOME INNOVATIVE WORK WHEN IT COMES TO WHEN IT COMES TO TRASH PICKUP AND I THINK THAT THEY'VE BEEN LOOKING TO HAVE THEIR OWN CONTRACTOR SO IF THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE CAN SPEAK IS THERE ANYONE HERE WE SHOULD HAVE JOEL HERE BUT IS THERE ANYONE HERE COULD COULD SPEAK TO WHAT THEY'RE DOING AT THE BOSTON HOUSING AUTHORITY? I WORK I CERTAINLY WORK CLOSELY WITH THEM IN THE TRASH PICKUP WE CURRENTLY SERVE THE SERVE THEIR TRASH SYSTEM. SO BUT WE ARE WORKING WITH THEM TO HOPEFULLY EVENTUALLY GET TO MORE OF A PRIVATIZED SEPARATE MODEL AND THAT GOES TO LONG WE'LL BE SPEAKING ABOUT DIVERSIFYING OUR CONTRACTS AND GETTING MORE CONTRACTORS INVOLVED AND WE THINK THAT'S A SOLUTION AS WELL AS WORKING WITH BOSTON HOUSING AUTHORITY THEY ALSO DON'T RECEIVE WHAT WE DEEM A TRUE RESIDENTIAL SERVICE. MOST OF THEIR THEIR SITES ARE FULL DUMPSTERS THAT YOU KNOW, THE BIG TRUCK COMES IN AND PICKS UP THE DUMPSTERS. WE'RE WORKING ON A PILOT PROGRAM WITH THEM. IT'S THEIR PILOT PROGRAM OF THE WORKING CLOSELY IN CHARLESTOWN WHERE THEY'RE RESTRUCTURING THEIR BINS AND THEY'RE MAKING THEM MORE RODENT PROOF AND THEY'RE UPGRADING THE QUALITY OF LIFE. SO WE CERTAINLY GUIDE THEM WE CERTAINLY CONSULT THEM THROUGH THESE PROGRAMS BUT THEY'RE DOING A LOT OF WORK AND ALL THEIR RESIDENTS ABOUT UPGRADING THEIR TRASH SERVICES AND WE'RE FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF IT AND MEETING WITH THEM. I KNOW JOHN AND BILL BOTH JOHN'S HERE AT THIS TABLE OF WORK MANY BOSTON HOUSING AUTHORITY SITES AND APPROVE THEIR PILOTS AND WORKING WITH THEM ON THEIR ILLEGAL DUMPING ISSUES AND ALL THEIR OTHER TRASH ISSUES.  THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I'M A STRAIGHT TO SMALL THINGS IF I MAY. OKAY. SO JOHN, I HEARD YOU TALK ABOUT YOU KNOW, ACCORDING TO CODE ENFORCEMENT AND THE NEED FOR MORE OF THOSE OF MORE FOLKS TO DO THAT, IT'S HAPPY TO HELP ADVOCATE FOR THAT LIKE WE WANT TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM WHICH IS LIKE A HARD ONE TO SOLVE BUT EVERYTHING WE CAN. AND SO WHETHER IT'S THE BUDGET, IF THAT'S A REQUEST WE HOPE TO I HOPE I'LL SPEAK FOR MYSELF I HOPE TO SUPPORT THE REQUEST IF THERE'S AN ASK THERE FOR MORE CODE ENFORCEMENT WHO ARE ABLE TO HELP US TACKLE THE PROBLEM. AND LASTLY I JUST WANTED TO SHOUT OUT TO OUR RAT CZAR JOHN, YOU DO THAT RIGHT NOW AND I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN WORKING IN PARTNERSHIP. I JUST WANT TO JUST UPLIFT AGAIN LOVE THAT ISN'T HERE FOR MOUNT PLEASANT ENVIRONMENT WORKING WITH CONSERVATION AGENTS ANDERSON'S OFFICE ON THAT NEITHER IS FATIGUE MORE FROM GREATER PAIN A GREAT AMOUNT OF PAIN NEIGHBORHOOD COUNCIL BUT YOU TRULY GO IN ATTACK THE PROBLEM, CREATE PILOT PROGRAMS PEOPLE ON OUR TASK FORCE ARE A PROBLEM TASK PROPERTY LIST.  I THINK I GOT THOSE WORDS WRONG BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TRYING TO MEET REGINA SAY AND I WANT TO UPLIFT YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE STILL SEEING WHETHER IT'S BEEN SUCCESSFUL OR NOT. BUT THE FERTILITY PILOT IN JAMAICA PLAN THAT YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON WITH MY OFFICE TO TRY TO SEE OKAY, HOW DO WE GET AT THIS RODENT POPULATION?  COULD CONTROLLING THE RAT POPULACE POPULATION BE PART OF IT? I JUST WANT TO UPLIFT THAT. I KNOW THAT THERE AND YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT THIS ALL THE TIME . TWO YEARS AGO I WAS HERE ON MY BIRTHDAY TALKING ABOUT RATS THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD CARES ABOUT AND IT'S AN ISSUE THAT WE SEE POPPING UP IN NEIGHBORHOODS THAT PREVIOUSLY DIDN'T HAVE RODENT ISSUES. SO AS MUCH AS WE TALK ABOUT THE PROBLEM, I DO WANT TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNOW THAT I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT YOU DO. IT'S PROBABLY AN ENDLESS PROBLEM WHEN YOU LIVE IN AN URBAN WHEN YOU LIVE IN A CITY YOU HAVE A LOT OF RESTAURANTS LIKE WE DO WHEN YOUR DENSELY POPULATED SHOUT OUT TO TRANSIT ORIENTED HOUSING HOPEFULLY GET MORE OF THAT, GET MORE OF THAT DENSITY THAT WE NEED AS A AS A AS A CITY. BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THESE RODENT ISSUES AND I JUST WANT TO UPLIFT THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING EVEN AND EXPLORE BEING ABLE TO LIKE THINK OUTSIDE OF THE BOX, EXPLORE THINGS THAT WE HAVEN'T EXPLORED BEFORE WHETHER THEY WORK OR NOT. THAT'S THE POINT OF A PILOT, RIGHT? AND SO I JUST WANTED TO UPLIFT THAT AND THANK YOU.  WE'RE WORKING AS WE AS WE LOOK TO TO SEE HOW WE CAN GET US TO ZERO. I THINK THAT YOU'VE BEEN A REALLY LASER FOCUS ON THAT SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO JON'S A LITTLE TOO MODEST TO TOOT HIS OWN HORN ON THIS STUFF BUT YOU KNOW, WITH OUR 15 CODE ENFORCEMENT PERSONNEL I MEAN THE THAT TEAM HAS ACHIEVED AN INCREDIBLE LEVEL OF RESPONSE WHEN THIS MIKE AND I WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS THIS MORNING I THINK WE'RE DOWN TO A POINT FOUR DAYS ON ON AVERAGE FOR RESPONDING TO CODE ENFORCEMENT REQUESTS. SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK YOU KNOW, THE CITY TAKES GREAT PRIDE IN AND IT IS THANKS TO THE GOOD WORK OF THE CODE ENFORCEMENT TEAM AND AS WE LOOK AT POLICY CHANGES AND NEW PROGRAMS, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO DELIVER THAT LEVEL OF RESPONSIVENESS ON THE ENFORCEMENT SIDE EVEN IF THERE IS MORE REAL RULES AND THINGS TO ENFORCE. BUT I APPRECIATE YOUR ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF THAT THAT TEAM AND THEIR GREAT WORK.  YEAH, AND JOHN, I MEAN WE'VE BEEN OUR WALKS I'VE SEEN JOHN JUST LIKE WEEKENDS MORNINGS WILL BE TAKING A PICTURE OF SOMETHING WE'LL SEND IT LIKE GO ON IT AND SUPERINTENDENT ROLL YOU AS WELL AND THERE IS AND I WANT US TO GET TO THAT NEXT THAT NEXT STEP WHICH IS WHAT WE ALL WANT. SO HOPEFULLY THAT MEETING WILL HELP BEAR FRUIT ON THAT. SO JUST THANK YOU AGAIN EVERYONE WHO'S HERE. I SEE THE SUPERINTENDENT NICE ONE KIND OF EXCELLENT POINTS ABOUT CODE ENFORCEMENT CODE ENFORCEMENT VOLUMES THAT THEY SEE A DAY WHEN IT ISN'T SNOWING WHEN THAT WHEN THEIR CASES REALLY SPIKE UP IS IS TRULY IMPRESSIVE WHEN YOU HEAR THE LABOR YOU KNOW THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE DENNIS TALKS ABOUT BEING CLOSE TO FULLY STAFFED CLOSE TO FULLY STAFFED HAS SEVEN INSPECTORS FOLLOWING 70 TRASH TRUCKS. SO EVEN EVEN IT YOU KNOW EVEN WHEN WE'RE HAPPY ABOUT FULLY STAFFED IT'S STILL VERY FEW PEOPLE DOING A LOT OF WORK FOR, YOU KNOW, 700,000 CITY RESIDENTS. AND I ALSO WANT TO GIVE CREDIT TO JOHN ORRICK WHO'S THE RELUCTANCE RATES ARE YOU KNOW,  HAVING HAVING BROKEN SILOS AND THIS AND THIS AND THIS CONSULTANT WORK WITH DR. BOB HAS ALREADY SEEN DANNY AND HIS OPERATION HIGHWAY BE INFORMED AND EDUCATED AND THERE'S BEEN SOME PROCUREMENT IDEAS ABOUT SPECIAL ED BASKETS THAT COULD BE RAT PROOF AND WE'RE ALREADY SEEING JUST JUST BY DROPPING THESE SILOS AND HAVING THESE DIFFERENT DIVISIONS DEPARTMENTS TALKING TO EACH OTHER AS HAS HAS PUT US SORT OF I THINK A BETTER SPACE TO NEVER PROBABLY BE A ZERO RATS BUT BUT BUT BUT FIGHT IT TOGETHER SO THANK YOU THANK YOU COUNCILOR BREADON 2 MINUTES. THANK YOU. I'M STILL HERE. GUESS WHAT WE LIKE TALKING ABOUT THIS STUFF THINKING ABOUT NEW BUILDINGS.  YOU KNOW ANYTHING MORE THAN SEVEN UNITS, SIX UNITS, SEVEN UNITS. WE HAVE A LOT OF REQUESTS FOR FIRST OF ALL, CURBSIDE COMPOSTING FROM BUILDINGS THAT ARE OVER EIGHT UNITS. WHAT'S WRONG WITH IT? WHY CAN'T I DO BUT I'M REALLY WONDERING ARE WE TALKING WITH THE BPA AND MAYBE URBAN DESIGN AND WHATEVER FOLKS TO THINK ABOUT NEW BUILDINGS AND HOW WE CAN INCORPORATE IT WE DO ASK THEM TO DO IN ONSITE YOU KNOW, HAVE A CAPACITY TO DO COMPOSTING AND FOOD WASTE IN THESE NEW BUILDINGS. BUT THEY SAY THERE'S NO RULES ON THE BOOKS.  THERE'S NO YOU KNOW, NO GO AWAY. AND THEN WE'RE ASKING THEM ALSO TO, YOU KNOW, STORE THEIR THEIR TRASH INDOOR LIKE IN IN IN IN UNDER THE BUILDING IN THE BIT WITHIN THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT IS A WAY YOU KNOW IF IT'S IN THEIR BUILDING FOOTPRINT MAYBE THEY'LL PAY ATTENTION MORE AND TAKE BETTER CARE OF IT. IT'S REALLY THE RODENT ISSUE AND THEN AND JUST JUST TRYING TO MOVE THE DIAL AND THAT TO WHERE ARE WE AT WITH THAT? ARE WE TALKING TO THE BPA ABOUT THIS STUFF? SO WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY FORMAL CONVERSATIONS WITH THE BPA YET. THE POSITION THAT WE MENTIONED EARLIER, THE POLICY POSITION THAT WOULD BE A PRIMARY ROLE OF THAT POSITION IS TO WORK WITH THE VPD AND OTHER AGENCIES ABOUT DEVELOPING THESE TYPES OF POLICIES. WE HAVE MADE SOME STRIDES IN SOME ON SOME BIG BUILDING STUFF. OUR CURRENT CONTRACTOR VENDOR FOR FOOD WASTE DOESN'T PICK UP AT LARGE BUILDINGS THEY DON'T SERVICE LARGE BUILDING. THAT'S WHY WE DON'T. BUT IT GOES ONLINE WHERE WE TALK ABOUT WHAT TRASH IS IS WE ARE TRYING TO FIND THEM PRIVATE OPTIONS AND WE'RE TRYING TO CONNECT THE DOTS SO WE'RE WORKING WITH SOME OTHER COMPANIES AND LISTING SOME OTHER COMPANIES ON OUR WEBSITE THAT DO SERVICE BIG BUILDINGS FOR A COST INVESTMENT. SO WE'RE MAKING WE'RE TRYING TO CONNECT THOSE DOTS AND GIVE THEM THOSE TYPES OF RESOURCES SO THEY CAN COMPOST. THEY CAN FIND IT EASY TO COMPOST IT JUST PAY FOR SERVICE. YEAH AND YOU KNOW I WOULD HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH A DEVELOPER, A PROPONENT OF A NEW BUILDING TO SAY HEY, THIS IS A COMMUNITY BENEFIT YOU CAN GIVE US. YOU DO YOU OFFER ONSITE COMPOSTING AND YOU KNOW WE OFFER A NICE HEATED WI FI EQUIPPED SHUTTLE BUS TO TAKE THEM TO THE TRAIN STATION. WE NEED TO DO COMPOSTING ON SITE AS WELL. IT AND ALSO GO DRIVES BACK TO OUR POINT IS IF IF LARGE BUILDINGS OWN THEIR TRASH AND HAVE TO PAY FOR THE WAY THEY DISPOSE OF TRASH THEY'LL BE MORE OF A FOCUS ON GETTING SOME OF THAT MATERIAL OUT OF THE TRASH THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR IT ANYMORE. YEAH, I APPRECIATE THAT I COULD TALK ALL DAY WHEN I WAS DOING MY TIME'S UP. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR . I KNOW THAT COUNCIL PRESIDENT LOUIJEUNE HAS A CLARIFYING QUESTION IS ONE CLARIFYING QUESTION FOR YOU TO PRETEND I COULD TALK ABOUT THIS ALL DAY TOO WHICH IS WEIRD BUT I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY IN QUESTION REGARDING SO WE'VE BEEN THINKING IN MY OFFICE ABOUT YOU KNOW, WE WANTED TO FILE THIS AND THEN NEXT UP YOU KNOW, ORDNANCE ABOUT PICKUPS BUT IS IT MY AM I HEAR YOU SUPERINTENDENT , THAT YOU WANT TO SORT OF WAIT AND SEE SORT OF WHAT THE CONSULTANT AND THE TRASH FELLOW SORT OF DETERMINES ABOUT NEXT STEPS BEFORE WE SORT OF JUMP INTO, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS FOR LARGE FOR PICKUPS THAT LARGE BUILDING SEVEN UNITS OR MORE BECAUSE I THINK THAT WE NEED TO MOVE ON THAT AND MOVE ON THAT NOW. BUT IF YOU KNOW, I ALSO WANT TO WORK IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE GREAT WORK THAT ALL OF YOU DO AND SORT OF WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE WORKING IN LOCKSTEP WITH WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN. YEAH, I MEAN OUR CONSULTANT HAS DONE A LOT OF WORK THIS I THINK IT'S JUST A MEANS OF PRESENTING IT THE WORK THAT SHE'S DONE,  THE RESEARCH AS SHE'S DONE NATIONALLY AND WHAT DEFINES A BIG BUILDING AND WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING AND WHAT BOSTON TO MODEL AFTER. BUT I THINK I THINK WE'RE AT THE PROCESS WHERE WE CAN START PRESENTING SOME OF HER FINDINGS AND START CREATING AND LOOKING AT POLICIES FOR THE CITY. AND IF I COULD JUST JUMP IN REAL QUICK I THINK DENNIS TOO IN THAT IN THIS TIME WE CAN FIND OUT YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT SEVEN UNITS OR MORE BECAUSE WE'VE ALWAYS TALKED ABOUT SEVEN UNITS AND WHAT THAT MIGHT NOT BE THE NUMBER THAT COULD MAKE SENSE.  SO I THINK IN THIS MOMENT IN TIME IN THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO IT CAN KIND OF INFORM US, YOU KNOW, TO THAT POINT ABOUT WILL WILL WILL BIG BUILDINGS CARE MORE ABOUT RECYCLING OR IF THEY'VE GOT TO HANDLE IT THEMSELVES? YOU KNOW, WE CAN WE CAN WE CAN GET TO A NUMBER THAT CAN THAT CAN MAKE SENSE. I THINK ON MY FIRST DAY OF WORK I CALLED THE THEN SUPERINTENDENT ROB DEROSA WITH THIS BAGS OF TRASH ON THE STREET. THIS MUST BE WRONG.  I WAS TOLD THAT WAS RIGHT. AND THEN TO THE POINT ABOUT THE BIG BUILDING YOU KNOW WHERE WE'VE GOT TRUCKS AT THIS I WON'T SAY WHAT BUILDING IT IS BUT ON THE WATER AND I COULDN'T BELIEVE WE WERE DOING THAT EITHER. SO I THINK THAT THIS MOMENT IN TIME ALLOWS US FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER TO LOOK AT HOW WE LOOK AT NUMBERS ON A PIECE OF PAPER FOR FINANCE IT LOOKS AT YOU KNOW WHAT WHAT IS A BIG BUILDING AND YOU KNOW IT'S A BIG BUILDING 50 OR MORE 101 AND WE PUT THAT THAT BURDEN THAT WORK SOMEWHERE ELSE THAT SHOULDN'T MAYBE BE IN A MUNICIPALITY. SO I THINK THAT YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A YEAR OR TWO TO KIND OF LOOK AT THIS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.  ANY LAST COMMENTS BY THE PANELIST JUST SAY THANK YOU TO THE MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL . WE APPRECIATE THE ATTENTION TO THIS. I THINK TRASH COLLECTION IS IS LOW KEY. PROBABLY THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT PUBLIC SERVICE THAT HAPPENS IN THE CITY EVEN THOUGH MOST OF THE TIME WE DON'T THINK ABOUT IT AND WE DON'T TALK ABOUT IT. AND SO I THINK IT'S WONDERFUL THAT THE COUNCIL IS PUTTING SOME ATTENTION TO THIS. WE'VE GOT SOME GREAT IDEAS AND SOME GREAT THINGS FOR US TO EXPLORE AND WE'RE EXCITED TO CONTINUE TO PARTNER WITH EVERYONE HERE TO TO HELP IMPROVE THE SERVICE FOR FOR OUR RESIDENTS. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND AS SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES ALREADY MENTIONED, I AGREE WITH THEM WHEN THEY SAY THAT BOSTON IS AT THE TOP OF THE LIST OF SOME OF THE CLEANEST CITIES IN THE COUNTRY. SO THANK YOU FOR THE WORK THAT YOU ALL DO AS A CHAIR CITY SERVICES I JUST CONTINUE TO LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH YOU ALL ON THIS IMPORTANT TOPIC.  I MAY LET YOU GO IF YOU WANT TO REMAIN AND LISTEN TO THE PUBLIC TESTIMONIES YOU ARE WELCOME TO DO SO BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY TODAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.  YES, THE CAPITAL CITY WE WILL NOW MOVE FORWARD WITH PUBLIC TESTIMONY WHEN YOUR NAME IS CALLED PLEASE COME DOWN TO ONE OF THE TWO PODIUMS AND STATE YOUR NAME NEIGHBORHOOD AND OR ORGANIZATION AFFILIATION.  PLEASE SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE AND PLEASE KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO 2 MINUTES. I WILL PUT A TIMER ON THE PHONE AND WILL ALERT YOU OF THE 2 MINUTES WE ARE STARTING WITH IN-PERSON PUBLIC TESTIMONIES. WE WILL START WITH PAUL GREENFIELD.  OKAY. THANK YOU FOR ORGANIZING THIS. I'M PAUL GREENFIELD. I LIVE ON BEACON HILL. YOU CAN ALWAYS TELL WHEN IT'S TRASH DAY BECAUSE CHARLES STREET AND MOSTLY THE NORTH LOOK TERRIBLE. IT'S JUST SEEM TO CORRELATE WITH TENANTS AS YOU SAY, EDUCATING PEOPLE ON WHAT TO DO IS A DIFFICULT THING. ONE WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT EVERY BUILDING EVERY RENTAL BUILDING HAS POSTINGS IN THE ENTRANCE. WHO IS THE OWNER?  WHO IS THE MANAGER? AND BY THE WAY, THIS IS HOW YOU TAKE CARE OF YOUR TRASH AND RECYCLE INCLUDING WHAT CAN BE RECYCLED. SO THIS OFTENTIMES YOU SEE PLASTIC BAGS, DIRTY CONTAINERS, ETC. I ALSO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT LANDLORDS AND MERCHANTS CHARLES STREET IT LOOKS BETTER AND BETTER BUT IT'S STILL A PROBLEM. THE MERCHANTS FAIL TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY THEIR ATTITUDE MANY TIMES AS WELL AS SUBWAY TRASH. I WAS OUT OF THE OPPRESSION THAT IT IS ACTUALLY A CITY ORDINANCE THAT THAT RESIDENTS AND MERCHANTS ARE REQUIRED TO CLEAN THEIR SIDEWALKS AND CURBS SO WE NEED TO ENCOURAGE THEM WHETHER MAKING IT THAT IT'S MANDATORY OR IF SOMEBODY FROM THE CITY ACTUALLY GOES OUT AND GETS THEM TO DO IT. CHARLES STREET WOULD ALSO LOOK BETTER IF WE HAD BINS LIKE THE ONES YOU HAVE OUT HERE ON THE CITY HALL PLAZA THAT HAVE THE SMALL HORIZONTAL OPENINGS. MANY OF THE BINS ON CHARLES STREET OVERFLOW WITH HOUSEHOLD TRASH AND THIS IS AN ONGOING ISSUE POSTING SHOULD BE EXTENDED IF THERE WERE MORE COMPOSTING GIVEN THE NUMBER OF GREEN BEANS ON BEACON HILL WHICH IS RATHER LIMITED, YOU THINK IT'S RATHER COST INEFFECTIVE. IT WOULD BE MORE COST EFFECTIVE IF THERE WERE BINS AT EVERY HOUSEHOLD. THE COST PRESUMABLY STAYS THE SAME BECAUSE THEY HAVE MORE COMPOST OF MATERIAL THAT THEY CAN THEN SELL. SO THESE ARE JUST SOME THOUGHTS. THANK YOU. I WOULD ALSO HOPE THAT EVERY ANY ORGANIZATION, ANY BUSINESS A RESTAURANT MUST HAVE RAT PROOF BINS FOR THEIR FOOD WASTE AND THAT WITHIN SIX MONTHS THEY ALL BE REQUIRED TO COMPOST. THANK YOU. THANK YOU PAUL AT THIS TIME I WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME TO THE PODIUM LASHONDA JONES.  HELLO EVERYONE. I'M LASHONDA JONES. I'M A FAN WEIGH RESIDENT I YOU KNOW MY NEIGHBORHOOD IS A LOVELY NEIGHBORHOOD BUT I AM REALLY TIRED OF SEEING LIKE DOG WASTE AND ALL THAT STUFF BECAUSE IT SPREADS DISEASES AND ALSO IT'S REALLY NASTY AND I'M REALLY TIRED OF PICKING THAT UP SO AND THERE AREN'T REALLY MANY TRASH CANS I KNOW IT'S A VERY RESIDENTIAL AREA BUT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE MORE TRASH CANS IN THE AREA SO THAT CAN BE, YOU KNOW, TAKEN CARE OF ALSO WE'RE REGARDING THE PRIVATIZATION OF WASTE SERVICES. I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE PRIVATIZED AT ALL. SHOULD BE A PUBLIC CAMI EFFORT PRIVATIZATION YOU KNOW THAT MEANS THERE'S LIKE VERY LITTLE OVERSIGHT AND WHAT NOT AND THEY'RE THEY'RE ONLY GOING TO CARE THESE COMPANIES ONLY CARE ABOUT PROFIT SO WE SHOULD GET LIKE A FORTUNE 500 COMPANIES OUT SO YES.  THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH.  THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TESTIMONY AT THIS TIME.  I WANT TO CALL TO THE PODIUM MEGHAN AND I'M SORRY FOR MISPRONOUNCED THAT I THINK IT'S . HI I'M MEGHAN. I AM THE BOARD CHAIR OF THE BEACON HILL CIVIC ASSOCIATION AND THANK YOU COUNCILORS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AND FOR YOUR TIME THIS MORNING AND THANKS TO THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT FOR THEIR TIME AND EFFORTS AS WELL MEETING WITH US AND EVERYONE AT THE HCA AGAIN THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOICE THE NEEDS AND CONCERNS OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND PARTICIPATE IN THE PROCESS AS A TRASH ZERO WASTE PICKUP RECYCLING COLLECTION AND SANITATION REALLY DRAMATICALLY IMPACTS THE DAILY QUALITY OF LIFE IN DOWNTOWN BOSTON AND ESPECIALLY BEACON HILL.  THE ISSUES THAT REALLY IMPACT US ARE CENTRAL TO THE CURRENT COLLECTION PRACTICES WHICH ALLOWS RESIDENTS TO PUT THE TRASH OR RECYCLING OUT STARTING AT 5 P.M. THE DAY BEFORE COLLECTION IN MANY CASES AND AS DOCUMENTED BY THE PHOTOS AND SUBMISSIONS TO 311 AND NUMEROUS CALLS TO RB HCA, THE TRASH IS OFTEN OUT ON THE SIDEWALK OVERNIGHT AND ROUTINELY FOR A FULL 24 HOURS. BY ANY REASONABLE STANDARD HAVING THE OUT OBSTRUCTING SIDEWALKS IS UNACCEPTABLE AND THE RESULTS ARE MANY.  THE PUBLIC HEALTH THREAT TO THE RESIDENTS ARE TOP OF THE LIST OBVIOUSLY THE NON-EXHAUSTIVE ASPECTS ALSO INCLUDE ACCESSIBILITY AND THE USE OF THE SIDEWALK OBVIOUSLY THE SAFE LEVELS OF CLEANLINESS BUT OF COURSE PROVIDING A FOOD SOURCE FOR THE CONTINUALLY THRIVING RAT POPULATION IN THE CITY. THE HCA CONTINUES TO STUDY THE TRASH COLLECTION LOGISTICS AT LENGTH AS WELL AS THE CONTRACT WHICH I HAPPEN TO HAVE WITH ME . AND WE UNDERSTAND THE COMPLICATED LOGISTICS ISSUES THE CITY FACES. BEACON HILL IS EXTREMELY DENSE NEIGHBORHOOD ESPECIALLY THE NORTH IN THE CONTRACT NOW BEACON HILL'S COUPLED WITH CHARLESTOWN THE NORTH END IN ROXBURY AND WE'RE ACUTELY IMPACTED IN THE SAME WAY AS OUR NEIGHBORS BRIEFLY IN RESPONSE TO EDUCATING NEIGHBORS AND GETTING THE NEIGHBORS MORE INVOLVED. THE HCA IS VERY MUCH FOCUSED ON NEIGHBORS HELPING NEIGHBORS BRIDGING GAPS AND FOSTERING THAT MEANINGFUL COMMUNICATION AND EDUCATION IN RESPONSE AGAIN TO THE TIMING OF THE PICKUPS. THERE'S NOT A CONSISTENT TIME THAT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS SERVICED.  CAN I CONTINUE? YEAH. THANKS. SORRY . THE TRASH AND RECYCLING ARE ROUTINELY OUT FOR 24 HOURS. FURTHER THE DENSITY OF THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS AS NOTED IN THE CURRENT CONTRACT IS THREE UNITS PER BUILDING BEACON HILL AND DOWNTOWN NEIGHBORHOODS FAR EXCEED THAT NUMBER AND I KNOW WE'VE DONE A LOT OF DISCUSSION ON THE PRIVATE TRASH OR WHAT DEFINES A BIG BUILDING. THERE ARE MANY BUILDINGS IN BEACON HILL THAT ARE MORE THAN SEVEN UNITS THAT THE CITY DOES NOT REQUIRE PRIVATE TRASH COLLECTION FOR AND I THINK THAT THAT DRAMATICALLY IMPACTS AGAIN WHAT HAPPENS AT THE STREET LEVEL.  I THINK WE THINK THE CONTRACT SHOULD BE UPDATED TO ACCURATELY REFLECT THE RESIDENTS BEING SERVICED THE ACTUAL DENSITY OF DOWNTOWN RESIDENTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS NEEDS TO BE ACCOUNTED FOR AGAIN ACCURATELY JUST WITH RESPECT FOR THE TIP RATES IN THE COLLECTION ZONES AGAIN WITH THE TOTAL AMOUNTS WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR THE COLLABORATIVE AND THOUGHTFUL REPRESENTATION OF OUR DISTRICT COUNCILOR COUNCILOR DURKAN AND WE WILL LOOK FORWARD TO THE CONTINUED PARTNERSHIP WITH THE ADMINISTRATION TO FIND A BETTER BALANCE WITH THE COLLECTION THE PICKUPS DURING THE DAYLIGHT AND ESPECIALLY WITH RESPECT TO THE CHIP RATES AND THE AMOUNT COLLECTED THROUGHOUT THE CITY. WE'RE ALSO VERY INTERESTED IN REDUCING THE ILLEGAL TRASH DUMPS ON OUR STREETS AND SIDEWALKS AND THE DRASTIC REDUCTION OF OVERALL TRASH VOLUME WITH RESPECT ESPECIALLY TO THE MATTRESSES WE HAVE AN ENORMOUS STUDENT POPULATION IN BEACON HILL AND WE SEE INCREDIBLE NUMBERS OF MATTRESSES OUT, YOU KNOW, WITH RISK WITH YOU KNOW, AS RELATED TO THE MOVEMENTS IN MOVE OUT IN HAPPY HOUR NEWS JUST LAST WEEK AND EARLIER THIS MONTH WE'VE NOTICED ADDITIONAL PEOPLE COLLECTING THE JETTISONED LEFT BEHIND BY THE TRASH TRUCKS AND WE'VE ALSO NOTICED A RECENT INCREASE IN TICKETING WHICH IS VERY HELPFUL IN BEACON HILL. I WOULD REQUEST A GREATER ENFORCEMENT BEYOND JUST THE TICKETING AND I'D LIKE TO FOLLOW UP AND FURTHER EMPHASIZE COUNCILOR JONES COMMENTS THE ISSUES REGARDING THE PROBLEM PROPERTY OWNERS ALSO DRAMATICALLY IMPACTS BEACON HILL AND I MEAN EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD ALSO BEACON HILL AND I THINK WE NEED TO REALLY KEEP THE PROBLEM PROPERTIES COMMITTEE ACTIVE AND UPDATE THE SYSTEM SO THE DETAILS ARE ACCURATELY REFLECTED AND NOT SO SILOED. OBVIOUSLY GREATER CODE ENFORCEMENT IS IS NEEDED. THE BAKER STEADFASTLY SUPPORTS THE SAME DAY PICKUP SO THERE ARE NEVER TRASH OUT OVERNIGHT SPECIFICALLY A 6 A.M. START TIME TO PUT THE TRASH OUT WITH COLLECTION BEGINNING NO EARLIER THAN 9:00 IN THE MORNING TRASH WOULD AGAIN BE OUT ONLY DURING THE DAYLIGHT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.  THANK YOU.  THIS TIME I TO CALL UP ALLIE FOLEY.  THANK YOU.  THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IT WASN'T REALLY PREPARED TO SPEAK TODAY BUT SOME OF THE TOPICS THAT CAME UP FROM THE COUNCILORS WAS REALLY REFLECTIVE OF RECENT CROSS COLLABORATION BETWEEN A COUPLE NEIGHBORHOODS. SO MY NAME IS ALLIE FOLEY. I'M A RESIDENT OF BACK BAY FOR NEARLY NINE AND A HALF YEARS. I ALSO WORK MOST RECENTLY BEACON HILL SO I CARRY KIND OF BOTH OF THOSE PERSPECTIVES FROM A RESIDENTIAL PERSPECTIVE AND ALSO FROM, YOU KNOW, TRAVERSING THROUGH BEACON HILL. I ACTUALLY REACHED OUT TO THE NORTH END WATERFRONT ABOUT A MONTH AGO ASSOCIATION AND WANTED TO GO THERE AS AN ADVOCATE FOR MY NEIGHBORHOOD TO LEARN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW THEY'RE HANDLING TRASH OVER THERE AND I WAS QUITE IMPRESSED WITH THE NORTH END AND I HAVE LEARNED ABOUT THE HOKIE PROGRAM FROM THEM. SO I WAS KIND OF DISAPPOINTED THAT OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS MAY NOT HAVE BEEN AWARE OF SUCH A PROGRAM.  SO MY QUESTION WILL BE TO THE COUNSELORS THERE ARE SOMEBODY HERE TO HELP GUIDE US HOW WE CAN GET THE HOKIE PROGRAM INSTALLED INTO THE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS AS WELL.  I THINK BEACON HILL WOULD BENEFIT GREATLY FROM THIS FROM THE SIDEWALK PERSPECTIVE AND KEEPING THE SIDEWALKS CLEAN FOR TRAFFIC ON THE WEEKENDS AND SHOPPING DISTRICTS AND BECAUSE THE BACK PAY IS A RUN OFF INTO THE CHARLES WE DO HAVE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF TRASH THAT ACCUMULATES ON THE GUTTERS AND THE LINES THAT FEED INTO THE RUNOFF INTO THE CHARLES SO I'D LIKE TO SEE SOMEBODY HELP GUIDE US TO IMPLEMENT THAT AND AS WELL AS ON BOYLSTON AND NEWBURY STREET SO WE DO A LOT OF EDUCATION I VOLUNTEER IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE THE BLOCK CAPTAIN PROGRAM TRYING TO EDUCATE PEOPLE ON HOW TO BETTER CLEAN UP THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND EDUCATE ON TRASH TYPE BAGS AND THINGS LIKE THIS. SO I DO WANT TO PUT A THANK YOU OUT TO THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES WHO HAVE BEEN HELPFUL TO US IN OUR EARLY GUIDANCE HERE WITH THIS PARK CAPTAIN PROGRAM.  IT'S BEEN VERY EFFECTIVE AND HELPFUL IN STEERING US SO AND WITH THE HOKIE PROGRAM I DON'T KNOW IT SOUNDED LIKE THE WORD RESOURCES CAME UP. I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN MAYBE INSTILL IN THE YOUTH MAYBE COLLEGE OR STUDENTS FROM HIGH SCHOOL GET INVOLVED EARLY OR MAYBE WE LOOK AT THE HOMELESS POPULATION AND SEE IF THERE'S SOME HOMELESS POPULATION OR A BRIDGE TO GET THEM INVOLVED IN CLEANING UP THE AREAS THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY SLEEPING IN THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD SOURCE FOR THEM. GET THEM ON A PATHWAY TO GETTING BACK TO WORK AND MAYBE GETTING INVOLVED.  SO I THINK THEY MIGHT BE ACTUALLY A GREAT RESOURCE AS OPPOSED TO A BURDEN TO THE CITY OF FAVOR OF ANOTHER MOMENT. AND I DO HAVE ONE MORE THING I HEARD A REALLY INTERESTING TERM THAT WAS BROUGHT ON CONTAINERIZATION TODAY CONTAINERIZATION I THINK DENNIS MIGHT BE OVERLY OVERSEEING THAT . I'M WONDERING IF THE CITY IS DOING ANYTHING WITH BUSINESSES ESPECIALLY ON NEWBURY STREET AND BOYLSTON STREET WITH THE TYPES OF PACKAGING THEY'RE CHOOSING FOR COFFEE CUPS,  LATTES, STYROFOAM CONTAINERS YOU KNOW YOUR CHICK-FIL-A IS THESE PARTICULAR ITEMS DO NOT BREAK DOWN VERY WELL AND THEY ARE GETTING CAUGHT IN THE DRAINS AND THEY'RE CAUSING, YOU KNOW, ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS. SO ARE THERE ANY PROGRAMS OR INCENTIVES FROM THE CITY OF BOSTON BACK TO THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS WHERE MAYBE THEY GET A TAX REBATE OR ANOTHER INCENTIVE IDEA TO LEVERAGE SUSTAINABLE PACKAGING AND REDUCE, YOU KNOW, THE PLASTICS THAT ARE GOING OUT ONTO THE STREET THAT DON'T BREAK DOWN AND INHERENTLY GET CAUGHT INTO THE DRAINS OR ON STREET CORNERS CAUSING, YOU KNOW, LITTER ACCUMULATION.  OKAY. THANK YOU. AND I WANTED TO THANK THE ENTIRE ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES AND DEPARTMENT PUBLIC WORKS TEAM JOHN, JOHN AND DENNIS AND IT'S ALL I DO APPRECIATE ALL YOUR SUPPORT IN THE BACK PAGE. I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU SOON.  THANK YOU MISS FOLEY. WE'LL DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE OF ASKING A HOKIES PROGRAM THIS TIME I HAVE TO CALL UP BARBARA ROBERTS.  HELLO. GOOD MORNING. IT'S STILL MORNING RIGHT?  MY NAME ISN'T ACTUALLY BARBARA MILLICENT ROBERTS. THAT'S BARBIE'S NAME BUT I AM HERE FROM BARBIE LAND THE GREAT NEIGHBORHOOD OF DORCHESTER,  MASSACHUSETTS. I FIRST MOVED THERE OCTOBER IN 1990 AS A BABY AND I'VE LIVED ON AND OFF IN DORCHESTER FOR GOSH, LIKE I'M A GERIATRIC MILLENNIAL.  I'M 34 SO I DON'T KNOW SHANE YOU CAN DO THE MATH ON THAT ONE. BUT GUESS WHAT'S STILL THE SAME IN DORCHESTER THE LITTER THAT POLLUTES ALL THE STREETS. THIS IS THE LARGEST NEIGHBORHOOD IN BOSTON.  IT'S GOD'S COUNTRY. AND SO I TOOK THE 23 THROUGH DORCHESTER TO ROXBURY WHICH IS THE MOST EQUIDISTANT NEIGHBORHOOD IN BOSTON AND IT'S JUST FILLED WITH LITTER AND I'M A VIRGO SO I CAN'T REALLY GO FOR THAT. I JUST TO I DIDN'T MEAN NECESSARILY TO ADDRESS WHAT THIS WOMAN FROM THE BACK BAY SAID BUT I'D BE REMISS NOT TO MENTION THAT THE HOMELESS ARE ALREADY CLEANING UP IN BOSTON. THEY'RE NOT A BIRD.  YOU'RE A BIRD IN A BOSTON THERE THEY CLEAN UP. YOU GIVE THEM TRASH BARRELS, BROOMS, BAGS TO CLEAN UP. THEY CLEAN UP GOVERNMENT CENTER WHERE THEY HANG OUT AT THE CENTER SO JUST A COMMENTS TO THE COUNCIL . OH NO, I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO ADDRESS WHAT WAS SAID HERE.  THANK YOU SO THEY ALREADY DO THAT. BUT I MEAN PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT THEY DO A GREAT JOB. I REMEMBER AT THE 2020 DART DAY PARADE I WAS HUNG OVER AND I THREW UP AND A LOT OF GOOD FOLKS THERE THAT TAKE CARE OF THE CITY WHICH IS WHY I ADVOCATE GIVING THEM THE SUPPORT THEY NEED. NOT THE BIGGEST FAN OF PRIVATIZATION BUT THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR ISN'T THROWING WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT MONEY AT MASSACHUSETTS EVEN AFTER MAYOR WALSH WENT TO HIS POSITION WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR. WHAT YOU COULD DO IS FIND A NONPROFIT FOR EXAMPLE SAINT FRANCIS WHO WAS THE CITY'S CO-PLAINTIFF AND THEY DO A LOT OF GREAT WORK. THEY HAVE A WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT PAYOUT TRAINING STIPEND SO PEOPLE CAN WORK WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT. IF YOU WONDER IF THERE'S AN APPETITE FOR ENTRY LEAVE ENTRY LEVEL WORK LIKE THAT THAT HELPS BEAUTIFY THE CITY.  LOOK AT THE EMERGENCY SHELTERS WITH THE BUNCH OF PEOPLE WHO ARE EITHER WAITING FOR WORK FEDERAL WORK AUTHORIZATION OR TRYING TO ACCESS ENTRY LEVEL JOBS THEY CAN DO.  THE CITY OF BOSTON ALSO NEEDS TO REALLY TEMPER WHEN IT COMES TO CODE ENFORCEMENT. I'M A BIG FAN OF TIGER STOCKBRIDGE. HE'S ONE OF MY FAVORITE CHARACTERS BUT FOR I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY POLICIES IT TAKES TO REALIZE THAT FORCING PEOPLE TO DO SOMETHING UNDER THE THREAT OF THE LAW DOESN'T WORK AS WELL AS JUST INCENTIVIZING THEM DOING SOMETHING.  SO IF YOU INCENTIVIZE PICKING UP LITTER, IF YOU INCENTIVIZE PROPER WAYS OF TRASH DISPOSAL,  YOU GET A LOT FARTHER THAN JUST SENDING THE THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT BASICALLY HAULING PEOPLE. I MEAN, YOU KNOW THIS FOR EXAMPLE, THE 2020 CENSUS COUNT TECHNICALLY MANDATORY BUT THEY GOT A LOT MORE PARTICIPATION WHEN IT WAS THE VOLUNTARY ASPECT OF IT WAS EMPHASIZED.  AND SO I'LL JUST CLOSE WITH THIS A SHOUT OUT TO JOHN ALDRIDGE I CAN'T SEE HIM FROM BEHIND THIS WALL BUT IN AUGUST 2023 I WAS IN THE LAND OF  AND LITTER KNOWN AS NEW YORK CITY AND I ATTENDED A NEW YORK CITY DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH WHAT IS IT CALLED THE ACADEMY? IT'S A TRAINING THAT THEY TEACH BOTH COMMUNITY GARDENERS AND BUSINESSES AND RESIDENTS HOW TO BASICALLY WELL WORK TOWARDS IPM ,INTEGRATED PEST MANAGEMENT AND I TOOK NOTES ON THAT BECAUSE YOU CAN'T REPRODUCE THE THE SEMINAR BUT I DARE THE CITY OF NEW YORK TO TRY AND TELL ME THAT I CAN'T TAKE NOTES AND COPY INFORMATION.  SO I'M HAPPY TO AVAIL THAT IF PEOPLE THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL. IT WAS LIKE NEW YORK CITY'S ACTUALLY VERY DISCUSSING BUT I WANT TO CLOSE WITH KIND CIRCLING BACK TO OCTOBER 2021 WHERE A RAT BORNE ILLNESS WAS IDENTIFIED HIGH RISK LEPTOSPIROSIS WAS IDENTIFIED IN BOSTON.  IT'S PRETTY INTERESTING THAT WE CAN PAY LIP SERVICE AND AND THANK THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT BUT THE A NUMBER OF MUNICIPAL EMPLOYEES HAD CONTRACTED LEPTOSPIROSIS DUE TO THE THEIR RODENT INFESTATION IN BOSTON. THESE ARE ISSUES YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN LIKE IT'S NICE TO HAVE A HEARING AND AND YOU KNOW AND PEOPLE COME IN WITH THEIR REALLY NICE SUITS YOU KNOW, LOOKING SHARP GENTLEMEN AND THINGS LIKE THAT.  BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER IF THERE'S NO PRACTICAL APPLICATION OF THINGS AND JUST A RESPECT FOR THE PUBLIC. DO YOU KNOW HOW DEMORALIZING IT IS TO GROW UP AND AROUND TRASH AND LITTER AND NOT JUST STREWN CONDOMS OR DRUG PARAPHERNALIA THAT POSES AN ILLNESS? IT ALL DOES IT IT'S JUST IT'S IT'S DISRESPECTFUL TO THE RESIDENTS WHETHER THEY YOU KNOW, THEY LIVE ON A BEACON HILL OR ESPECIALLY IF THEY LIVE IN DORCHESTER. IT'S THE LARGEST NEIGHBORHOOD OR THEY LIVE IN ROXBURY WHERE A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE, YOU KNOW, COMMUTE FROM FROM NUBIAN STATION STATION WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT. SO THINK ABOUT THAT. JUST THINK ABOUT THAT WHEN YOU'RE DOING THE BUDGETING AND STUFF LIKE THAT BECAUSE YOU YOU KNOW, WE ALL FOUND THE MONEY TO GIVE YOURSELVES RAISES. THINK ABOUT HOW DEMORALIZING AND DISRESPECTFUL IT IS TO BOTH THE RESIDENTS AND THE CITY WORKERS, YOUR COLLEAGUES THAT YOU PUT AT RISK WHEN YOU KIND OF DILLY DALLY WHEN IT COMES TO EFFECTIVE SOLUTIONS. THERE ARE SOLUTIONS OUT THERE. THIS IS PROBABLY THE EASIEST THING THAT YOU GUYS COULD DO. SO I HOPE YOU REMAIN OPEN TO HEARING FROM THE PUBLIC AND I SINCERELY THINK THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT I WILL BE SURE TO SCOLD SOME LITTER BUGS ON YOUR BEHALF AND OUR WELCOME TO OUR RAT CZAR.  THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY. WE ALSO HAVE SOME PUBLIC TESTIMONIES THAT ARE JOINING US VIRTUALLY.  I LIKE TO START WITH H PARKER JAMES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANKS TO ALL OF YOU FOR CONVENING THIS HEARING.  WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT. SO I'M GOING KEEP IT VERY BRIEF. SO MY NAME IS PARKER JAMES I LIVE IN I LIVE IN THE BACK BAY NEIGHBORHOOD. MY AFFILIATION WAS WITH THE CHARLES GATE ALLIANCE.  PART OF THE BACK BAY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT I LIVE IN IS ACTUALLY WEST OF MATTHEW AVENUE. SO INSTEAD OF BEING THE HAVING THE SERVICE ALLEYS ACCESS TO THE SERVICE ALLEYS THAT MOST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS, WE'RE MORE LIKE BEACON HILL HERE. THERE ARE LOTS OF BUILDINGS,  EVEN LARGE BUILDINGS THAT DON'T HAVE ACCESS.  SO LONG STORY SHORT I'D LIKE TO COMMENT ON A FEW THINGS. NUMBER ONE, THE PERSON FROM BEACON HILL WHO'S SUGGESTED DAYLIGHT ONLY TRASH TRASH STORAGE HOURS THAT WOULD BE GREAT. I LIVE IN A FAIRLY LARGE BUILDING 17 UNITS. WE DO NOT HAVE ANY ACCESS.  WE DON'T HAVE ANY ACCESS TO THE PUBLIC ALLEYS SO IT WOULD BE WE PILE OUR TRASH UP ON THE STREET, IT GOES OUT THE NIGHT BEFORE THE TRASH ITSELF GETS PICKED UP VERY EARLY IN THE MORNING RIGHT BEFORE 7 A.M.. VERY OFTEN THE RECYCLING STAYS ON THE STREET ALL DAY SO IT WOULD BE SO GREAT IF THE TRASH AND THE RECYCLING COULD BE SET FOR POST 9 A.M. AND WITH A LIMIT FOR PEOPLE PUTTING THEIR TRASH OUT 6 A.M. ONWARD I THINK THAT WE WOULD GO A LONG WAY TO IMPROVING THE SITUATION THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW SO THUMBS UP TO THE LADY FROM BEACON HILL WHO SUGGESTED THAT ANOTHER PERSON THAT I'D LIKE TO SAY THUMBS UP TO IS ALI FOLEY FOR SUGGESTING THE POSSIBILITY OF AT RISK HOMELESS PEOPLE PERHAPS BEING USED AS A SOURCE OF EMPLOYMENT AND LABOR TO HELP KEEP THE CITY CLEAN. YOU PROBABLY ALL KNOW ABOUT THE ORGANIZATION CALLED PROJECT PLACE. IT'S A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION AND THEY DO EXACTLY THIS.  THEY HIRE AT RISK AND BUT THE FOCUS OF THEM AS AN ORGANIZATION OVERALL IS TO GET PEOPLE OFF THE STREETS INTO PERMANENT HOUSING AND INTO PERMANENT EMPLOYMENT. BUT SORT OF EARLY ON IN THEIR OUTREACH AND INTAKE THEY HIRE PEOPLE TO DO TRASH PICKUP. SO THEIR MOST FAMOUS CONTRACT IS WITH THE RED SOX. SO A PROJECT PLACE CLEANS UP THE TRASH IN AND AROUND FENWAY PARK AFTER BALLGAMES.  WE AT THE CHARLES GATE ALLIANCE HIRE THEM TO HELP PICK UP NEEDLES AND TRASH AND CHARLES GATE PARK TWICE A WEEK. THEY'RE AN ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC ORGANIZATION. SO NO NEED TO INVENT THE WHEEL HERE. JUST YOU KNOW, REACH OUT TO GREAT LOCAL ORGANIZATION AND FINALLY ONE THING WOULD BE GREAT IS.  SO NOBODY KNOWS THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. THE PECULIARITY OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS QUITE LIKE THE LOCAL RESIDENTS AND LOCAL RESIDENTS.  AND YOU KNOW OUR BLOCK HAVE COME UP WITH INNOVATIVE SOLUTIONS OVER THE YEARS TO SUGGEST THAT OUR PROBLEM IS MORE ABOUT STORING THE TRASH THAN ANYTHING ELSE. NO, NO PLACE TO STORE THE TRASH . WE WOULD LOVE IF THERE WERE A WAY FOR THE CITY TO LISTEN TO THE SUGGESTIONS. I THINK THE WAY IT'S SET UP RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST EASIER TO SAY NOW IN ORDER TO END THE CONVERSATION IF THERE WERE A WAY FOR, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE AT THE CITY TO TO SORT OF SEE US START ENGAGE ENGAGING WITH THE LOCAL RESIDENTS TO COME UP WITH INDIVIDUALLY LOCALLY CRAFTED SOLUTIONS FOR THE TRASH STORAGE THAT WOULD BE SO GREAT BECAUSE WE WOULD THERE ARE PEOPLE HERE THAT WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW PRIVATIZATION.  IT WOULD BE SO GREAT OUR BUILDING WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A PRIVATIZED SOLUTION BUT WE HAVE NO PLACE TO SET UP ANY KIND OF TRASH RECEPTACLES FOR THE PRIVATE CONTRACTOR TO COME AND TAKE THE TRASH AWAY. SO IT'D BE GREAT TO BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE THE PROBLEM, TALK TO SOMEONE AT THE CITY, NEGOTIATE A SOLUTION AND COME UP WITH AN INDIVIDUALLY CRAFTED SOLUTION UP AT NEIGHBORHOODS ACROSS THE CITY. WE'D HAVE GREAT SUGGESTIONS. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR DOING THIS.  TAKE CARE. HAVE A GOOD. HAVE A GOOD DAY. THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO CALL ON BARRY BROWN BARRY YOUR MUTED SORRY ABOUT THAT. THANK YOU, MR CHAIRMAN.  MY NAME IS BARRY BROWN. I'M A RESIDENT OF THE BACK BAY FOR THE PAST FIVE YEARS AND PRIOR TO THAT A RESIDENT IN BOSTON FOR A DECADE.  I REALLY DON'T WANT TO TAKE THE TIME TO REPEAT WHAT OTHERS HAVE SAID BUT MY THANKS TO THE OFFICERS OF THE CITY, THE DEPARTMENT HEADS WHO ARE TRYING MIGHTILY TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM . I DO WANT TO SAY ANSWER THE COUNCIL BY THE WAY FOR ITS CONTINUING EFFORTS THERE. I'M A BIT DISTRESSED ABOUT THE BOX OF BEING PUT INTO A THREE YEAR CONTRACT WITH OUR TRASH COLLECTORS. I HOPE THAT IN AND WITHIN THE THREE YEARS THERE CAN BE SOME THINGS DONE WHICH DON'T VIOLATE THAT CONTRACT.  AND I THINK AS EVERY ONE THAT I'VE HEARD HAD SUGGESTED REGULATING THE HOURS IN WHICH TRASH IS PUT OUT OF OUR BUILDINGS IS VERY IMPORTANT.  IN MY PERSONAL OBSERVATION TRASH IS PUT OUT THE BEFORE BY EARLY EVENING. IT'S SPREAD OVER ALLEYWAYS IN THE BACK BAY AND WHAT FOLLOWS IS IS PREDICTABLE WHICH IS A SIGHTING OF RATS. USUALLY IN THE EVENINGS WHEN THE TRASH IS OUT JUST WALKING AND CROSSING STREETS ERICA RELATIVES TO THE SITUATION WITH CONTAINERIZED TRASH IT ENCOURAGES GRAFFITI IN THE AREAS WHERE THOSE WHERE THE TRASH IS PLACED.  AND I THINK WE'VE SEEN A TREMENDOUS INCREASE IN THE DEFACEMENT OF PROPERTY DURING THIS PERIOD WHERE WE FOCUSED ON IT OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS AND THE INCREASE IN GRAFFITI.  I SEE NO REASON AND I THINK I SHARE THIS WITH OTHERS THAT LANDLORDS WITH LARGE BUILDINGS SHOULD NOT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR OWN TRASH PICKUP EITHER BY PAYING AN EXCESS AMOUNT TO CITY AND AN ADDITIONAL AMOUNT TO THE CITY OR BY GETTING THEIR OWN TRASH COLLECTORS. TO MY KNOWLEDGE WHERE THE ONLY MAJOR CITY THAT CONTINUES TO HAVE OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT PICK UP THE TRASH FOR A LARGE PROFIT MAKING DEVELOPMENT. I THANK YOU. I WILL RELINQUISH WHAT TIME I HAVE AND I APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS OF THE CITY COUNCIL . WE ATTENDED A MEETING SIX MONTHS AGO. I KNOW THIS IS A FOLLOW UP BUT I REALLY WOULD URGE THE CITY COUNCIL TO BEGIN TO CONSIDER ORDINANCES FOR THIS CITY THAT DEAL WITH THESE MATTERS THEY CAN DEAL WITH WHICH ARE THE VIOLATION OF THE EXTENDED THREE CONTRACT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, MR BROWN.  I WOULD LIKE TO CALL ON MS.. VALERIE SMITH.  OKAY.  ALL RIGHT. HELLO?  HELLO? CAN YOU HEAR ME ? YES.  OKAY. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME BE PART OF THIS PANEL.  WHEN I FIRST WAS INVITED I THOUGHT IT WAS ABOUT AN ISSUE REGARDING DARLING, WHICH IS THE COMMERCIAL TRASH PICKUP THAT HAPPENS OVERNIGHT AT ONE IN THE MORNING. THREE IN THE MORNING, FIVE IN THE MORNING, 6:22 A.M. ON EASTER AND 455 THIS MORNING. BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS MEETING IS MORE ABOUT THE RESIDENTIAL TRASH PICKUP AND I LIVE IN BACK BAY ON COMMONWEALTH AVENUE AND WE DON'T WE'RE ABLE TO PUT OUR TRASH OUT IN THE ALLEYS. WE DO IT THE DAY OFF AND THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM. SO I'LL USE MY TIME SINCE THERE ARE PEOPLE ON THE BOARD ON THE PANEL FROM IAC THAT I SEE RATS EVERY DAY. THERE IS A FLATTENED RUN OF A RAT IN PUBLIC ALLEY 431 RIGHT NOW THAT I SAW WHEN I WAS LEAVING FOR WORK TODAY. I SEE RATS GET RUN OVER TWO AT A TIME. I SEE RATS 15 AT A TIME FLYING OUT WITH TRASH BAGS IF I LEAVE MY APARTMENT EARLY OR NOT OR NOT. SO I DON'T I KNOW THAT THE THE RATS AND THE TRASH ARE RELATED PROBLEMS.  I THINK IF THE RESTAURANTS KEPT THEIR TRASH INSIDE UNTIL SEVEN IN THE MORNING AND HAD THEIR TRASH PICKED UP NOT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY ALLEVIATE THE PROBLEM IF THEY PUT THEIR TRASH OUT AT 11 P.M. AND THEN THE TRASH IS PICKED UP AT 6:22 A.M. ON EASTER. THEN THE RATS HAVE AT IT ALL NIGHT.  SO I THINK THE CITY COULD BE DOING MORE ABOUT THE RATS. I'VE DONE A MILLION 311 REPORTS AND IT'S ALWAYS AREA BEING MONITORED AREA BEING MONITORED. I REPORTED THE SAME RAT HOLE I'VE BEEN REPORTING IT FOR YEARS. THEY PUT FARM IN IT THE NEXT DAY THE FARM IS GONE SO THERE'S NOTHING REALLY BEING DONE TO REDUCE THE RAT POPULATION AND I KNOW THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE TRASH PROBLEM.  THANK YOU MISS SMITH. AND TO WE'LL MAKE SURE TO SEND YOU THE STATE MANDATE ON COMMERCIAL PICKUP TIME. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. PERFECT. GOOD JOB ON TIMING.  OKAY, SIENNA, THERE'S NO OTHER REGISTERED PUBLIC TESTIMONIES IN PERSON OR VIRTUALLY I'D LOVE TO GIVE MY COLLEAGUE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR CLOSING REMARKS. OH, I JUST THANK YOU TO EVERYONE THANK YOU TO THE CHAIR FOR HOSTING THIS HEARING. THANK YOU TO THE ADMINISTRATION FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO PROVIDED PUBLIC TESTIMONY.  SOMEONE HIGHLIGHTED THE NEED FOR US TO HAVE MORE TRASH BARRELS AND RECYCLING BINS AND I KNOW THAT YOU ARE ALWAYS RESPONSIVE ADMIN WHEN WE WHEN WE REQUEST THEM BUT I'D ALSO JUST MAKE ONE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE UPLIFT THAT AND I KNOW THAT THEN HAS GONE TO SCHEDULE AND IT'S NOT THE EASIEST THING BECAUSE THEN WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY BEING PICKED UP BUT WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT AS WELL IS WANTED TO CLARIFY THE PRIORITIZATION MODEL THAT I THINK COULD WORK ISN'T NECESSARILY FOR FOR RESIDENTIAL IT'S REALLY JUST FOR LARGE PICKUPS AND I KNOW THAT ONE OF THE TENSIONS THAT EXIST AS IF YOU ACQUIRE SOMETHING IF YOU PRIVATIZE IT WELL THAT COST BE BORNE BY TENANTS AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN.  SO THERE IS INTENTIONALITY ON OUR END AND THINKING ABOUT WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE. I JUST WANT TO THANK ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES BECAUSE THESE ARE THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE TO GET RIGHT FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD IT'S AN EQUITY ISSUE. IT'S A RACIAL JUSTICE ISSUE WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE DISAFFECTED AND FEEL IGNORED BY OUR CITY SYSTEMS. SO WE'VE GOT TO GET IT RIGHT FROM BEACON HILL TO MISSION L FROM MATTAPAN TO CHARLESTOWN.  AND I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE WHO SEE I WANT TO THANK VHA. I WANT TO THANK MY OFFICE SHOUT OUT TO MY CHIEF OF STAFF EMILY POLSTON WHO WAS LITERALLY OUT IN EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE DOING OUR BEST AND DOING RIGHT BY OUR RESIDENTS. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU MR CHAIR. I THINK IT'S CENTRAL STAFF AND EVERYONE FOR BEING HERE.  I WOULD JUST LIKE TO THANK THE REGIONAL SPONSORS OF THIS DOCKET BECAUSE THIS THIS TOPIC IS VERY IMPORTANT AND WHEN WE THINK ABOUT PUBLIC HEALTH THIS IS THIS IS THE ROOT OF IT RIGHT HERE IS IT IS TRASH AND I THINK ONE OF THE PUBLIC TESTIMONIES MENTIONED IF WE DON'T GET THIS RIGHT THIS IS THE RESIDENTS ARE NOT BEING TREATED RIGHT AND FOR THAT REASON I WANT TO ALSO THANK THE THE ADMINISTRATION'S TEAM FOR STEPPING UP TO THE PODIUM TO THEIR PANELISTS AND FOR ALWAYS BEING RESPONSIVE TO MY QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS AS A COUNCILOR I THINK IT'S YOUR TEAM THAT DOES A GREAT WORK. THANK YOU FOR FOR COMING OUT TO MY NEIGHBORHOODS MATTAPAN HIGH PARK AND ROSLYN OVERLOOKING WHAT NEEDS WE WE WE HAVE AND TO THE PANEL AND TO THE PUBLIC TESTIMONIES THAT WERE HERE TODAY TO THE RESIDENTS OF BOSTON CONTINUE TO ASK US QUESTIONS CONTINUE TO REACH OUT TO US REACH OUT TO YOUR DISTRICT COUNCILORS, YOUR AT-LARGE COUNCILORS BECAUSE OUR JOB IS TO BE YOUR LIAISON BETWEEN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND THIS ADMINISTRATION AND TO HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE TO MAKE SURE HOW MY COUNTY COUNCIL PRESIDENT LIKES TO SAY FROM BACK BAY AND BEACON HILL TO MATTAPAN AND HYDE PARK AND EVERYWHERE IN BETWEEN WE ALL DESERVE EQUAL SERVICE AND THAT'S WHY I'M PROUD TO BE THE CHAIR OF THIS COMMITTEE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MAKE THAT HAPPEN. BUT WITH THAT I WOULD LIKE TO THIS HEARING ON DOCKET 0179 IS ADJOURNED