##VIDEO ID:NbLKMrBkDSI##  MORNING FOR THE ROCKET. MY NAME IS AARON MURPHY, AT-LARGE CITY COUNCILOR AND I AM THE CHAIR OF THE BOSTON CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE ON STRONG WOMEN FAMILIES AND COMMUNITIES. TODAY IS NOVEMBER 21ST, 2024. THIS HEARING IS BEING RECORDED . IT IS ALSO BEING LIVESTREAMED AT BOSTON.COM.  BACKSLASH CITY DASH COUNCIL DASH TV AND BROADCAST ON FINNERTY CHANNEL EIGHT RCN CHANNEL 82 AND FIOS CHANNEL 964. WRITTEN COMMENTS MAY BE SENT TO THE COMMITTEE EMAIL AT C C C DOT S.W. F C AT BOSTON.COM AND WILL BE MADE PART OF THE RECORD AND AVAILABLE TO ALL COUNCILORS . PUBLIC TESTIMONY WILL BE TAKEN AT THE END OF THIS HEARING. INDIVIDUALS WILL BE CALLED ON IN THE ORDER OF WHICH THEY SIGNED UP AND WILL HAVE 2 MINUTES TO TESTIFY. IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN TESTIFYING IN PERSON PLEASE ADD YOUR NAME TO THE SIGN UP SHEET NEAR THE DOOR AT THE ENTRANCE OF THE CHAMBER. IF YOU ARE LOOKING TO TESTIFY VIRTUALLY PLEASE EMAIL CENTRAL STAFF LIAISON CORA MANN TRUMP AT C0RAMONTRO AND D AT BOSTON DOT GOV FOR THE LINK IN YOUR NAME WILL BE ADDED TO THE LIST. TODAY'S HEARING IS ON DOCKET 162842 FOR A HEARING TO ADDRESS THE FINAL REPAIRS FOR THE POOL AT THE CONDO COMMUNITY CENTER AND SCHOOL TO REOPEN. THIS MATTER WAS SPONSORED BY MYSELF AND COUNCILOR FLYNN AND WAS REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON OCTOBER 30TH 2024. TODAY I AM JOINED BY THE CHAIR SPONSOR THE CO-SPONSOR COUNCILOR OF FLYNN AND THE CONDEMNED POOL AS I WAS ALSO IN HIS DISTRICT SO I WILL JUST START. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. I DID HEAR THAT THE MAYOR AND LOTS OF DEPARTMENT HEADS HAVE A RETREAT TODAY. WE DID HAVE A NICE LONG LIST OF PANELISTS THAT WE WERE HOPING WOULD ATTEND JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO GET THE QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE ANSWERED . AT THE END OF THE DAY WHAT WE WANT WHAT I WANT IS TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF OUR POOLS RIGHT WE HAVE WHAT 18 POOLS ARE ALWAYS UP AND RUNNING.  SEVERAL HEARINGS THAT I'VE SPONSORED SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE ON THE COUNCIL HAVE BEEN TO ADDRESS THE FACILITY ISSUES. BUT THERE'S ALSO BEEN STAFFING LIFEGUARD ISSUES. I KNOW WE'VE DONE A GREAT JOB WHERE WE DON'T SEEM TO HAVE AS MANY POOLS THAT STAY CLOSED DUE TO STAFFING.  AND I KNOW IN THIS CASE THERE ARE LIFEGUARDS READY TO GO BUT WE JUST NEED TO FINISH REPAIRS AND HOPING THAT BY THE END OF THIS CONVERSATION, THIS HEARING THAT WE CAN HAVE SOME ANSWERS BECAUSE I GOT A CALL FROM A PRINCIPAL ACTUALLY AT A DIFFERENT SCHOOL WHO HAD REACHED OUT AND SAID SHE WAS WITH THE PRINCIPAL AT THE CONDON THAT SHE HAD HEARD YOU KNOW, THAT THE POOL WAS CLOSED, THAT THERE WAS NO YOU KNOW AND AS WE KNOW AND I KNOW COUNCILOR FLYNN WILL ADDRESS THIS ALSO THAT THESE POOLS DON'T JUST SERVICE OUR STUDENTS AT THE SCHOOLS DURING THE DAY BUT THE COMMUNITY, THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE PROGRAMING SO THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, SWIMMING LESSONS FOR THE FALL. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE SWIMMING LESSONS FOR THE WINTER . SO ANY WAY WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THE CONDITION IS PRIORITY IS TO BE OPEN. THERE ARE OTHER POOLS AND I WILL GO THROUGH AFTER YOU SHARE THE INFORMATION I KNOW YOU CAME HERE TO SHARE WITH US BUT TO SEE WHERE WE ARE ON OUR OTHER POOLS BECAUSE OTHER COLLEAGUES WERE OBVIOUSLY ESPECIALLY DISTRICT COUNCIL IS CHECKING IN ON THEIR POOLS IN THEIR DISTRICT. BUT AS THE CHAIR OF THIS COMMITTEE AND AS AN CITY COUNCILOR , OBVIOUSLY I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ON TRACK AND ANY TIME YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WE AS COUNCILORS ADVOCATE FOR ISSUES THAT WE JUST BRING UP ON OUR OWN BUT OFTENTIMES IT'S THE COMMUNITY'S REACHING OUT. SO THE COMMUNITY DEFINITELY IS FEELING AS THOUGH, YOU KNOW, THEY NEED TO BE PRIORITIZED. AND IF YOU COULD ALSO WHEN YOU SHARE YOUR INFORMATION BECAUSE I KNOW THE CONDON POOL HAS GONE THROUGH LOTS OF RENOVATIONS THE COMMUNITY CENTER ALSO. SO IF WE COULD ALSO HAVE A TIMELINE OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS OF WHEN THE POOL HAS BEEN CLOSED OR OPEN BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE IT MAY HAVE BEEN OPEN NOT NOT CONSISTENTLY OPEN OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. SO THAT BEING SAID, I WILL PASS IT OVER TO MY CO-SPONSOR FOR OPENING STATEMENTS AND THEN WE'LL GET RIGHT INTO IT. THANK YOU.  THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR FOR SHARING THIS IMPORTANT MEETING THIS IMPORTANT HEARING TODAY.  THANK YOU TO AYMOND AND THANK YOU TO BRIAN FOR BEING HERE AS WELL. THANK YOU FOR THE WORK YOU'RE DOING ACROSS THE CITY.  THE POOL AT THE CONDO COMMUNITY CENTER AND SCHOOL IS IN MY DISTRICT. IN FACT, IT'S RIGHT DOWN THE STREET FROM WHERE I LIVE. I LIVE OFF OF OFF OF D STREET ON F STREET.  WE KNOW THAT THIS POOL HAS GONE THROUGH EXTENSIVE RENOVATIONS INCLUDING THE INSTALLATION OF A NEW LINER.  BUT DESPITE THE UPGRADES, THE POOL REMAINS CLOSED.  IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE FINAL REPAIR NEEDED TO REOPEN THE POOL WAS THE REPLACEMENT OF A PUMP WHICH WILL COST AN ADDITIONAL $40,000. MAYBE THIS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT YOU COULD PROVIDE US ON THAT THE BOSTON PUBLIC SCHOOL FACILITIES DEPARTMENT HAS COMMUNICATED THAT THEY HAVE EXHAUSTED THEIR BUDGET AND WILL NOT BE ABLE TO COMPLETE THIS FINAL REPAIR AT THIS TIME. AGAIN, THE POOL REMAINS CLOSED. THE SITUATION HAS LIMITED OUR COMMUNITY'S ACCESS TO A VITAL RESOURCE. THE CONDOMINIUM MUNITY CENTER PLAYS A CRITICAL ROLE IN PROVIDING SWIM LESSONS IN THE FALL AND WINTER, ENSURING THAT CHILDREN CAN SWIM SAFELY DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS.  ADDITIONALLY, THIS POOL IS LOCATED IN THE MIDDLE OF A PUBLIC HOUSING DEVELOPMENT WEST BROADWAY DEVELOPMENT MAY BE THE MOST DIVERSE DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY OF BOSTON.  IT'S ALSO DOWN THE ROAD FROM IN LYNCH HOMES AS WELL. IN MARY MCCORMICK THIS POOL AGAIN IS IN THE MIDDLE OF A PUBLIC HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS IN KIDS AN ISSUE THAT I'VE WORKED ON FOR SEVEN YEARS IS PROVIDING ENSURING THAT ALL OUR KIDS ACROSS BOSTON HAVE ACCESS TO A SWIMMING POOL SO THAT THEY CAN LEARN HOW TO SWIM, ESPECIALLY KIDS OF COLOR I THINK IS IS VERY IMPORTANT AND THIS PROGRAM THIS POOL PROVIDES THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO OPEN UP THIS POOL SO THAT KIDS ACROSS SOUTH BOSTON BUT ESPECIALLY KIDS ACROSS BOSTON HOUSING AUTHORITY HAVE THE ABILITY TO USE A POOL AND SWIM IN TO LEARN TO SWIM.  KIDS THAT HAVE ACCESS TO SWIMMING LESSONS THEY CAN THEY CAN GO TO A PRIVATE PLACE FOR SWIMMING LESSONS. THEIR PARENTS HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT.  BUT KIDS IN PUBLIC HOUSING KIDS OF COLOR RELY ON B, C, F TO LEARN HOW TO SWIM. THAT'S WHY THIS ISSUE IS SO IMPORTANT AND IT'S PERSONAL TO ME . I WANT TO MAKE THAT WE DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TAKE THE APPROPRIATE STEPS NECESSARY TO OPEN THIS POOL AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.  I'M WILLING TO WORK WITH BOTH BRIAN AND AYMAN TO GET THIS DONE BUT I DON'T THINK WE CAN ACCEPT NO FOR AN ANSWER. I CERTAINLY CAN'T ACCEPT NO FOR AN ANSWER WHEN IT COMES TO MY CONSTITUENTS AND IN THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE THEIR SAFETY AS WELL. SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU AND LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING YOUR TESTIMONY AS WELL. THANK YOU.  THANK YOU, COUNCILOR FLYNN. SO JUST TO PUT ON THE RECORD WE ARE JOINED BY BRIAN FLOYD, DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS BOSTON PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND AMAN SHELTON, THE COMMISSIONER OF PROPERTY MANAGEMENT. SO IF YOU COULD SHARE AN UPDATE AND WHATEVER YOU CAME PREPARED TO TALK ABOUT, I'D APPRECIATE THAT AND THEN WE'LL FOLLOW UP WITH QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.  GOOD MORNING, COUNCILOR . THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME THIS MORNING. MY NAME IS BRIAN. FORWARD FOR THE RECORD CHIEF OF OPERATIONS FOR BP'S.  SO I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE KIND OF PULL WE HAVE DONE A LOT OF WORK TO UNDERSTAND WHERE OUR POOLS ARE CURRENTLY IN THE DISTRICT OVER THE LAST 18 MONTHS WE'VE UNDERSTAND THAT A LOT OF OUR POOLS ARE GETTING TOWARDS THE END OF THEIR REMAINING USEFUL LIFE. IT TOOK US A LITTLE TIME TO UNDERSTAND THE EXACT QUALITY OF WORK THAT WE NEEDED TO DO IN ORDER TO MAKE THIS WORK HAPPEN AND MOVE FORWARD. WE WERE ABLE TO PUT FORTH A LOT OF RESOURCES INTO THE EXISTING CONDITION OUR POOLS BOTH AT THE CAMDEN AND ACROSS THE DISTRICT. WHAT WE'VE OUTLINED IS THAT THERE'S STILL A LITTLE BIT MORE WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AND A LOT MORE WORK ACROSS THE DISTRICT THAT NEEDS TO BE COMPLETED. WHAT WE'VE OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF WEEKS AND MONTHS AND WITH PARTNERSHIP FROM OTHER CITY AGENCIES AS WELL INCLUDING COMMISSIONER SHELTON'S IS BEEN ABLE TO PUT TOGETHER A MAINTENANCE CONTRACT AND WE ARE EXPECTING THAT THIS MAINTENANCE CONTRACT FOR THE CONTENT POOL TO COVER A LOT OF THE CHLORINE FILTERS COORDINATORS, SOME OF THE BROKEN GUTTERS AND AT THIS POOL AND OTHERS IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN PUT IN PROGRESS NOW WE'VE IDENTIFIED FUNDING AND WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO START MOVING THIS FORWARD. WE'RE HOPING THAT THIS WOULD BE WITHIN THE NEXT 2 TO 3 MONTHS. THIS WILL ALL BE BASED UPON OUR PROCUREMENT TIMELINES AND PROCUREMENT LAW MAKING SURE WE'RE ABLE TO GET THESE THINGS IN PLACE. AND WITH THAT I'LL PASS IT OVER TO COMMISSIONER SHELTON. THANK YOU. THANKS, BRIAN.  GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONER. THANK YOU FOR HAVING MEJIA.  COUNCILOR MURPHY, I'M NOT SURE IF I WAS ON YOUR ORIGINAL INVITE LIST BUT THERE WERE ABOUT TEN. YOU DIDN'T MAKE THE ORIGINAL CUT. SO SORRY TO DISAPPOINT YOU, BUT NO, I'M I'M HAPPY YOU'RE HERE AND I THINK IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO AND BRIAN IF YOU COULD ADDRESS ALSO HOW THERE SEEMS TO BE SOME PEOPLE CALL IT LIKE A BROKEN RELATIONSHIP NOT A GOOD MARRIAGE BUT THE YOU KNOW OF WHAT'S THE CORRECT WORD HERE BUT THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN OUR CITY BUDGET, OUR SCHOOL BUDGET B CYF YOU KNOW, SO I THINK THAT'S ALSO WHERE SOMETIMES THERE IS CONFUSION ABOUT WHERE WHO MAKES THE DECISION, WHO DOES THE WORK AND WHO PAYS FOR IT. SURE, SURE. SO I THINK I CAN SPEAK SOMEWHAT TO THAT SO THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT YOU MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT BECAME MORE INVOLVED IN THE MANAGEMENT OF BC WYETH FACILITIES OVER THE LAST JUST OVER A YEAR AGO AND SO THAT WORK HAS MOSTLY FOCUSED ON THE STANDALONE BUILDING.  WE HAVE BUILDINGS IN THE STAND ALONE B.C. WE HAVE POOLS.  BUT THROUGH THAT EFFORT, YOU KNOW WE'VE BEEN MEETING REGULARLY WITH BHP'S BC CYF BOTH TO SHARE INFORMATION TO COORDINATE ON SORT OF BEST PRACTICES AND ALSO TO SHARE OUR TIMELINES AND OUR CLOSURES BECAUSE THAT SORT OF I GUESS UNFORTUNATE IRONY IS THAT IN ORDER TO ADDRESS SOME OF THESE SYSTEMATIC PROBLEMS WE HAVE TO CLOSE THE POOLS IN ORDER TO TO TO MAKE THE REPAIRS THAT ARE NECESSARY. SO KEEPING AS MANY CALLS AS POSSIBLE OPEN, CLEAN AND SAFE IS A MAJOR PRIORITY FOR ALL ALL THREE DEPARTMENTS AND FOR THE CITY AS A WHOLE AND THE IMPORTANCE OF CLEAR COMMUNICATION AND COLLABORATION CANNOT BE UNDERSTATED. SO I THINK YOU KNOW, THAT COLLABORATION THAT HAS OCCURRED I BELIEVE HAS PROVED FRUITFUL. WE HAVE SEEN IMPROVEMENTS LAST YEAR WE HAD LAST SUMMER WE HAD MORE POOLS OPEN THAN PREVIOUS SUMMER AND WE HAVE WE EXPECT TO CONTINUE THAT TREND.  SO WITH THAT I KNOW WE HAVE COLLEAGUES HERE FROM THE OPERATIONS CABINET AND ALSO FROM PUBLIC FACILITIES DEPARTMENT IN THE STANDS. BUT I DO THINK WE WILL SEE SOME IMPROVEMENT AND HAPPY TO TAKE ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. YOU. WE'VE ALSO BEEN JOINED BY COUNCILOR WEBER. COUNCILOR WEBER, IF YOU'D LIKE TO PROVIDE OPENING STATEMENT.  THANK YOU, CHAIR. I MEAN I THINK I'LL JUST SAVE IT FOR QUESTIONS.  COUNCILOR FLYNN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO START WITH QUESTION?  YEAH. THANK YOU AGAIN. THANK YOU, BRIAN AND THANK YOU AND COMMISSIONER, I SHOULD SAY AND THE COMMISSIONER I'VE HAD A LONG MANY YEARS WORKING WITH YOU AND YOU'VE ALWAYS BEEN VERY RESPONSIVE AND PROFESSIONAL SO I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE WORK YOU'VE DONE ON MANY ISSUES ACROSS ACROSS THE CITY AS WELL AS AS WELL AS YOUR COLLEAGUE AS WELL.  SO LET ME LET ME ASK LET ME ASK A QUESTION. YOU MENTIONED IT MIGHT BE SEVERAL MORE MONTHS BEFORE BEFORE WE'RE ABLE TO REOPEN AND IN THE MEANTIME THERE'S WORK BEING DONE.  WHAT IS WHAT SPECIFICALLY IS THE WORK THAT THAT IS CURRENTLY BEING DONE AT THE CONTENT?  JUST TO CLARIFY AT THIS TIME THE WORK IS NOT BEING DONE. WE HAVE DONE COMPLETED A LOT OF THE WORK, A LOT OF THAT YOU'VE SPOKE TO ALREADY THAT I SAID WASHING THE LINE OF REPLACEMENT POWER WASHING SEALS, CRACK REPAIRS AND A LOT OF THAT RELATED WORK. WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW IS THE PREPARATION OF OUR CONTRACTED DOCUMENTS TO GO OUT FOR ADVERTISEMENT FOR THE BEGINNING OF THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS.  AFTER WE GET THESE OUT FOR PROCUREMENT, THE ADVERTISEMENT WE CAN SOMETIMES SEE TIMELINES AS SHORT AS 30 DAYS MAYBE SLIGHTLY EXTENDED BY THE HOLIDAYS THAT ARE UPCOMING AND THEN AFTER WE HAVE BEEN ACCEPTED WE'LL BE ABLE TO START MOVING FORWARD WITH THE AWARD PROCESS TO START ENACTING THE WORK. FROM THAT TIMELINE WE'LL BE ABLE TO WORK WITH THE CONTRACTOR TO SEE WHAT THE TIME TO REPAIR IS COORDINATING WITH BOTH BC LIFE PMO AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL AS WELL AND ANY PROGRAMS THAT ARE AFFECTED ON THE WORK TO BE DONE. SO SO WHERE WE'RE AWAITING IS THE MAJOR INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENT RENOVATION IS AT THE INSTALLATION THE PUMP IS THAT THE OUTSTANDING ISSUE? THERE IS A PUMP THAT IS PART OF THIS WORK AS WE LOOK AT THE FEEDER PUMP AND THEN WE ALSO LOOK AT THE FILTER SYSTEM SAND AND LATERALS MANY DIFFERENT PUMPS AND SYSTEMS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THIS WORK AND HAVE WE IDENTIFIED THE COMPANY YET THAT IS ABLE TO DO THAT WORK? NO, WE HAVE NOT. WE'VE WE'VE WORKED WITH A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT VENDORS THAT ARE QUALIFIED TO DO THIS WORK BUT ONCE WE OPEN IT TO THE BID WE WILL BE INVITING THOSE COMPANIES THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH FOR THE PAST AND WE'LL ALSO BE ACCEPTING TWO NEW BIDDERS TO DO THIS WORK AS WELL. WHEN WILL THAT BID BE OPEN OPEN TO THE PUBLIC TO FOR COMPANIES TO BID ON? I'LL HAVE TO REVIEW THE TIMELINE ON THE ADVERTISEMENT SO WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO ADVERTISE IT AFTER A FEW. THE EXACT TIMELINE WE'RE HOPING FOR WITHIN THE NEXT 2 TO 3 WEEKS. OKAY. AND THEN THEY HAVE WHAT DO THEY HAVE ABOUT A MONTH TO RESPOND OR DO THEY HAVE LONGER PERIOD OF TIME THAN THAT? YES. SO IT'S GENERALLY ABOUT 30 DAYS TO RESPOND TO THE ADVERTISEMENT ONCE IT'S OUT FOR US TO ACCEPT BIDS, I'LL HAVE TO REVIEW THAT TIMELINE AGAIN WITH PROCUREMENT TEAM JUST TO MAKE SURE WITH THE HOLIDAYS THERE THAT WE ARE GETTING THE MOST QUALIFIED BIDDERS ON OUR CONTRACT.  ARE WE LOOKING AT CONTRACTS FROM COMPANIES THAT PREVIOUSLY DID WORK WITH BP AS WOULD BE CYF IN THE FAMILIAR WITH THE THE PROCESS AND FAMILIAR WITH WHAT EXACTLY NEEDS TO TAKE PLACE AND HOW THEY INTERACT WITH THE CITY. ARE WE ARE WE IN THE PROCESS OF IDENTIFYING COMPANIES OR ARE WE JUST PREPARING THE RFP?  BOTH. I WOULD SAY ALL OF THE ABOVE ARE TRUE. WE'VE WORKED WITH COMMISSIONER SHELTON WHO HAS BEEN KIND ENOUGH TO SHARE A FEW OF THE CONTRACTS THAT THEY'VE HAD IN PLACE FOR OTHER WATER AND AQUATIC COMPANIES THAT HAVE BEEN USED IN THE PAST FOR CHEMICALS AND AS WELL AS SOME OF THE REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE WORK THAT'S HAPPENED. WE HAVE ALSO BEEN WORKING WITH A VENDOR THROUGH SUBCONTRACTING FOR THE PAST YEAR OR 18 MONTHS THAT HAVE ALLOWED US TO IDENTIFY SOME OTHER QUALIFIED BIDDERS AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT ONLY GOING TO BE INVITED BUT THAT THE RFP IS TAILORED TOWARDS THE EXACT WORK THAT WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN THESE POOLS FOR THIS YEAR AND YOU KNOW, WILLING EVERY FISCAL YEAR EVER MEETING DOES BE CYF OR BP US DO THEY CURRENTLY HAVE THE FUNDS AVAILABLE TO FIX THE POOL?  YES, I WOULD SAY THAT IT WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A HURDLE FOR US TO IDENTIFY WHERE THE FUNDS WOULD BE COMING FROM BUT WE WERE ABLE TO IN THE RECENT WEEK ACTUALLY SO VERY NEW DEVELOPMENT ABLE TO IDENTIFY EXACTLY HOW WE ARE SOURCING THIS BECAUSE THE MONEY EXISTED IT JUST DIDN'T EXIST IN THE RIGHT BUDGET ACCOUNT BUT CAN'T ACCESS IT. THAT'S NOT IN THE CHAIRMAN'S ACCOUNT. OKAY.  BESIDES BESIDES THE RFP HOPEFULLY GETTING A CONTRACT TO DO IT, ARE THERE ANY OTHER OUTSTANDING ISSUES WHETHER THEY'RE FINANCIAL, WHETHER THE INFRASTRUCTURE, WHETHER THEY'RE MAINTENANCE ISSUES BESIDES THE RFP?  I THINK THE ANSWER TO THAT IS YES. WE DO WORK IN PARTNERSHIP WITH PCI RFP PMD.  ON THE MAINTENANCE IN DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS OF THE MAJORITY OF OUR POOLS. BUT AS YOU KNOW, WE DO OPERATE A LOT OF OUR POOLS DURING THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY AND WE DON'T OFTENTIMES HAVE THE STAFFING CAPACITY WITHIN THE SCHOOLS EXISTING TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE HAS FULL ACCESS TO THESE PROGRAMS AND SO WE'RE CONTINUING TO EXPAND ON WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE WITH OUR TEACHERS UNIONS, OUR PARAPROFESSIONALS, OUR MAINTENANCE WORKERS AND MAKING SURE THAT NOT ONLY THE POOLS ARE STAFFED, THAT THEY'RE SAFE ,INOPERABLE BUT THAT WE HAVE A PROCESS IN PLACE TO OPERATE ON ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT FRONTS TO PROVIDE THE BEST SERVICES POSSIBLE FOR ALL THE STUDENT STAFF AND THE COMMUNITY INVOLVED.  OKAY. SO EVEN IF WE GET THIS IT MAINTENANCE DONE, INFRASTRUCTURE DONE IMPLEMENTATION, THE CHANGES WE STILL IT STILL MAY NOT REOPEN OR WE STILL HAVE TO ADDRESS PROBLEMS.  I WOULD SAY THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO SUCCESSFULLY OPEN THE POOLS. I THINK WILL ALWAYS BE SUBJECT TO THE STAFFING OF THOSE POOLS WILL ALWAYS ALWAYS BE SUBJECT TO THE AVAILABILITY DURING CERTAIN TIMES BUT WE WILL ALWAYS PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE ABLE TO MAKE THESE POOLS OPERABLE AND USABLE FOR ALL OF THOSE THAT ARE ABLE TO ACCESS IT. IN MY FINAL QUESTION JUST AND I WANT TO BE RESPECTFUL TO MY MY COLLEAGUES BUT WHILE THE POOL IS CLOSED, IT'S OBVIOUSLY OFF LIMITS FOR EVERYBODY, ESPECIALLY STUDENTS THAT THEY CANNOT ACCESS TO GET INTO THAT AREA OF THE POOL.  THAT'S ACCURATE OBVIOUSLY,  RIGHT? YES. OKAY. ALL THE DOORS ARE LOCKED AND THE NECESSARY PRECAUTIONS ARE TAKEN THAT NO STUDENT COULD GET IN THERE WHILE THE POOL IS UNDER RENOVATION. YES, THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY.  THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.  THANK YOU. CONCEALED WEAPON.  THANK YOU, CHAIR. AND WITH YOUR PERMISSION AND I'M GOING TO ASK ABOUT SOME OTHER POOLS SO I GUESS I CAN YOU I'VE GOT LOTS OF PEOPLE. TWO POOLS OUT OF MY DISTRICT THE HENNIGAN AND THE DRAPER POOL FOR THE HENNIGAN POOL. CAN YOU JUST FOR TELL TELL TELL US THE STORY OF WHAT'S HAPPENED AND WHAT'S HAPPENING AND YOU KNOW HOW LONG IT'S BEEN SINCE PEOPLE MAY WANT TO USE IT. SO I CAN'T SPEAK TO EXACTLY HOW LONG IT'S BEEN SINCE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO USE THE POOL BUT I DO KNOW THAT AT SOME POINT OVER THIS PREVIOUS SUMMER THE POOL WAS OPERABLE FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME FOR PEOPLE TO ACCESS AT THAT POOL SPECIFICALLY WE DID FACE A LOT OF ISSUES AS IT RELATED TO THE FILTER SYSTEM AND THE CHEMICAL FEEDER SYSTEMS VERY SIMILAR TO THAT OF THE CONDEMNED POOL. SINCE THEN WE'VE WE'VE GONE FORWARD AND WE'VE DONE A LOT OF THE SAME THE SAME WORK THAT'S HAPPENED TO CONTAIN THE ACID, WASHED THE LADDERS TANKERS RECRUITING ADDING THE POOL LINE OF REPLACEMENT AND WE ARE FACING SOME OF THE SAME CHALLENGES THERE AS WELL SO THE CONDEMNED POOL AND THE HENNIGAN POOL HAVE A LOT OF THE SAME CHALLENGES AND SO WHAT WE'RE HOPING TO DO IS BY PUTTING OUT THIS MAINTENANCE CONTRACT FOR THE TIME LINE IS THAT THE CONTENT POOL AND THE HENNIGAN POOL AND SOME OF THE OTHER POOLS THAT ARE FACING THESE SAME CHALLENGES WOULD RESTORE AT THE SAME TIME. OKAY. AND THEN CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN ON WHERE THE MONEY IS COMING OUT FROM THE BUDGET WHETHER WHETHER THIS POOL WITH YOU KNOW, THIS COULD THIS COME OUT OF CAPITAL? COULD IT NOT COME AT THE CAPITAL AND YOU KNOW HOW BUT WHO'S YOU KNOW BUT THE INFORMATION YOU HAVE ABOUT THAT. YES. SO THE THE MONEY THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE USING TO MOVE THIS PROJECT FORWARD OF THIS MAINTENANCE FORWARD IS NOT GOING TO BE COMING FROM THE CAPITAL BUDGET. THIS IS THE WAY THAT WE'VE USED THE CAPITAL BUDGET PREVIOUSLY AND CURRENTLY IS TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS TOWARDS UPGRADES, IMPROVEMENTS AND LARGE RENOVATIONS AND SO THAT DIDN'T QUITE QUALIFY FOR OUR MEANS OF USE IN WORKING WITH OUR CFO FOR BP'S AND WORKING WITH THE OFFICE OF BUDGET MANAGEMENT.  I CAN'T I DON'T KNOW I CAN'T SAY I CAN'T I DON'T ACTUALLY KNOW HOW THEY WERE ABLE TO SOURCE THE FUNDS BUT WE WERE ABLE TO IDENTIFY HOW WE WERE ABLE TO SHIFT MONEY INTO OUR OPERATING IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN MOVE THESE PROJECTS FORWARD. OKAY. AND SAY I JUST SEE BUT YOU DID YOU TRY TO USE CAPITAL AND WERE TOLD THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT BUCKET TO TAKE THE MONEY OUT OF THAT BASICALLY. YES, THAT'S CORRECT.  OKAY. AND SO THE THE I GUESS JUST COUNCILOR FLINT'S QUESTION, YOU KNOW, IN A IN A SENTENCE LIKE WHAT WHAT IS WHAT DO YOU THINK IS THE TIMELINE FOR, YOU KNOW, GETTING THE POOL OPERATIONAL OR USABLE THEN AGAIN I WOULD SAY ALWAYS SUBJECT TO CHANGE BASED UPON PROCUREMENT I WOULD BEST IDENTIFY A LATE WINTER OPENING OF THE POOL I WOULD SAY SOMETIME AROUND MARCH WOULD BE MY MY BEST GUESS. OKAY. AND CAN YOU BECAUSE THE FILTRATION SYSTEM MAYBE YOU DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER LIKE YOU KNOW, WHAT KIND OF WORK ARE WE TALKING ABOUT?  UH, JUST EXPLAIN IT.  SO GENERALLY WE WORK WITH THE FILTER AND CHEMICAL FILTER SYSTEMS.  WE'RE LOOKING AT GENERALLY MECHANICAL CONTRACTS OR MECHANICAL VENDORS THAT ARE ABLE TO DO THE WORK. THIS MAY INCLUDE THINGS SIMILAR TO WHAT COUNCIL SAID WHERE IT'S REPLACING THE PUMPS BUT A LOT OF TIMES IT'S REPLACING THE AFFECTED SYSTEMS AND MAKING SURE THAT CONTROL UNITS THAT ARE SENDING THE CHEMICALS TO AND FROM THE POOL AND ARE READING BACK INTO A VERSION OF A BUILDING MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, ARE READING CORRECTLY FOR MAKING SURE THAT THE LEVELS CHEMICAL DISTRIBUTION WITHIN THE POOL ARE OPERATING CORRECTLY. MORE IMPORTANTLY IT'D BE THE SAND IN THE FILTER MEDIA THAT ARE NOT BEING RELEASED BY THE LATERALS INTO THE POOL WHICH WOULD CAUSE THAT EXTRA SEDIMENT FOR A LOT OF THEM. SO A LOT OF THESE REPAIRS WOULD HAPPEN AND THEN I THINK THAT THE HARDEST PART FOR US TO REALLY UNDERSTAND IS HOW DEEP THAT WORK GOES AS WE LOOK AT THE DELIVERY SYSTEMS ON THE PIPING AND THE TUBING THAT FEEDS THOSE RESPECTIVE AREAS. OKAY.  AND I MEAN DID YOU EVER THINK YOU'D KNOW SO MUCH ABOUT POOL MAINTENANCE?  AND SOMETIMES I WISH I DIDN'T. RIGHT. YEAH. AND JUST GENERALLY I THOUGHT I MEAN, I DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH HOW MUCH DO YOU ANTICIPATE IN THE WHAT KIND OF RANGE OF DOLLARS TO THIS TAKE?  SO WE ARE TAKING A GLOBAL APPROACH TO THIS AND SO THAT IS OUT OF AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION AND WHAT WE'VE SEEN PREVIOUS. SO OVER THE LAST 18 MONTHS WE'VE SPENT AROUND $3.2 MILLION TOWARDS THE POOL POOL INFRASTRUCTURE AND MAKING POOLS OPERABLE AND THAT IS ONLY SPEAKING FOR THE BP'S CONTRIBUTION AND NOT FOR THE CONTRIBUTION OF PMD. SO WHEN WE DID THE COST COMPARISON WORKING WITH COMPANIES LIKE THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB AND THE YMCA AND OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE CARING FOR THEIR POOLS AND FIGURING OUT WHAT A GOOD DOLLAR VALUE WAS WE DETERMINED FOR THE REST OF THIS FISCAL YEAR WOULD BE ROUGHLY $4 MILLION IN MAINTENANCE ACROSS THE DISTRICT TO KEEP US IN OPERATING.  WE THINK THAT IN STARTING IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR WE COULD SEE MAINTENANCE AS HIGH AS $6 MILLION ANNUALLY TO KEEP ALL OF OUR POOLS EXACTLY OPERABLE UNTIL WE GET TO A POINT WHERE NEARLY EVERY ITEM EVERY PIECE OF EQUIPMENT WITHIN THAT BUILDING IS IN A REALLY GOOD STATE OF REPAIR.  OKAY. OKAY. SO I WAS I WAS THINKING OF THE FILTRATION SYSTEM BEING LIKE AROUND 30 $40,000. BUT IS THAT THAT'S YES.  SO AT THE $40,000 MARK COULD BE A GOOD ESTIMATE. 30 DAYS IS USUALLY AS FAR AS WE GET ON THE ESTIMATES FROM VENDORS. SOMETIMES WE SEE PUMPS AND INSTALLATION OF THOSE PUMPS AT 10,000 EACH. MORE THAN ONE AND THE AFFECTED WORK COULD EASILY ADD UP TO 40 GRAND AND THEN WOULD BE SUBJECT TO YOU KNOW, BEST BIDDER. OKAY. AND THEN JUST LAST QUESTION ABOUT STAFFING. I GUESS WHAT WHAT IS THE PLAN I MEAN FOR THE. HENNIGAN SURE. THE AND ALSO BUT YOU KNOW PEOPLE EXPECTED TO BE A COMMUNITY RESOURCE AND WANT TO USE IT YOU KNOW DURING THE DAY AND I GUESS WHAT'S THE PLAN FOR GETTING STAFFING?  I THINK THAT WOULD BE A DIVIDED EFFORT.  SO I KNOW THAT OUR B.C. WIFE AND I DON'T REALLY WANT TO SPEAK FOR THEM TOO MUCH BUT THEY ARE THERE ARE POOL OPERATORS, THEY HELP WORK WITH OUR DAY TO DAY. THEY ALSO HELP WORK WITH STAFFING LIFEGUARDS.  BUT I THINK COMMISSIONER SHELTON MAY BE THE BEST FIT.  SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THE STAFFING AFTER HOURS DURING THE DAY IT WOULD BE BP'S STAFF THAT IS OPERATING THAT IN THE WAY THAT WE DO THIS IS WE HAVE PARAPROFESSIONALS IN COORDINATION WITH OUR USUALLY LIKE A SWIM INSTRUCTOR THAT ARE OPERATING THE POOL DURING THAT DAY. YEAH, I WOULD HAVE TO SORT OF GATHER THAT INFORMATION AND REPORT BACK TO CO-COUNSEL OR WHATEVER. I MEAN I WILL SAY THAT COUNSELOR MURPHY MENTIONED THIS EARLIER BUT THEY THEY ARE SORT OF BETTER STAFFED THAN THEY HAD BEEN IN TERMS OF THE CURRENT POSITIONS BUT WE WOULD GET THAT LET ME GET THAT INFORMATION AND I CAN REPORT BACK TO YOU. OKAY. AND THEN JUST ON THE DRAPER POOL, DO YOU HAVE ANY UPDATES? SURE. YEAH. SO THE DRAPER POOL JUST SORT OF GIVE A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW SO FAR IN SEPTEMBER OF 2022 A CONTRACT TO REPLACE AND UPGRADE THE POOLS BOILERS VENTILATION AND FILTRATION SYSTEM WAS ADVERTISED.  THE CITY STARTED THAT WORK I BELIEVE RIGHT AROUND THE WINTER OF 22.  SO COME JULY OF 2023 IS WHEN PROPERTY MANAGEMENT BECAME MORE INVOLVED WITH WITH DCF AND SORT OF GOT INVOLVED WITH THE DRAPER POOL PROJECT. SEPTEMBER WE AWARDED A CONTRACT TO REPAIR THE POOL SHELL AND TILE AND INSTALL NEW STEPS, LADDERS AND EQUIPMENT.  WE COMPLETED THAT WORK IN JANUARY OF 2024 AND REFILLED THE POOL AND WE'RE READY TO REOPEN.  UNFORTUNATELY THE POOL SHORTLY THEREAFTER BEGAN TO LOSE WATER AND WE FOUND THAT WE NEEDED TO REPLACE THE THE ONE OF THE TANKS THAT THAT ONE OF THE STORAGE TANKS FOR THE POOL. AND SO THAT WORK IS CURRENTLY UNDERWAY WHICH JUST WRAPPED UP DESIGN OF A NEW SURGE TANK WHICH WOULD INVOLVE SOME DEMOLITION OF THE POOL DECK. WE EXPECT TO HAVE IT OPEN IN THE SPRING.  OKAY. SO ONE ONE LAST THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND DRAPER POOL. TALE OF WOE.  YEAH, YEAH. NO I MEAN WE HAVE AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW WE'VE HAD COMMUNITY MEETINGS TO REALLY SORT OF BE UPFRONT AND OPEN ABOUT SORT OF WHAT HAPPENED. BUT I WILL SAY IT'S SORT OF A CAUTIONARY TALE AS WE'VE LEARNED MORE ABOUT POOLS AND AS WE GET INVOLVED IN THESE PROJECTS THERE IS A LOT OF SORT OF DEFERRED MAINTENANCE THAT HAS OCCURRED OVER THE YEARS AND SO I THINK THAT'S CHANGING AND THAT'S IMPROVING.  BUT THERE ARE TIMES WHEN YOU START TO FIX ONE THING AND YOU WORK ON ONE THING AND YOU FIND THERE'S THERE'S OTHER PROBLEMS ASSOCIATED WITH IT. SO JUST ONE LAST QUICK QUESTION. SO THE IS A DIRECTOR FOR YOU KNOW, BRIAN YOU KNOW BRIAN IS FINE BUT CHIEF OF OPERATIONS FOR BP.  OKAY, CHIEF.  SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE BUDGET FOR BP'S WE'LL SEE ABOUT FIVE $6 MILLION FOR POOL OPERATIONS OR MAINTENANCE IS THAT IS GOING TO BE A SEPARATE PART OF THE BP'S BUDGET LIKE NEXT YEAR. SO WE WOULD WE WOULD COMBINE THAT INTO OUR ALLOCATIONS FOR OUR BP'S FACILITIES DEPARTMENT . BUT IT'LL ALSO BE SLIGHTLY SPLIT SPLIT JUST BECAUSE WE ALSO HAVE SOME OF THAT GOING TOWARDS THE STAFFING OF THOSE POOLS DURING THE DAY FOR THE EDUCATIONAL PIECE.  IF YOU DIG DEEPER INTO THOSE LINE ITEMS YOU SHOULD SEE THOSE ALLOCATIONS IN PLACE. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND THANK YOU, JOE. OH, THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTIONS. I HAVE A FEW.  FIRST, I MEAN I WAS A SCHOOL TEACHER FOR OVER 20 YEARS AT A BUILDING THAT WAS CONNECTED TO B CYF SO UNLESS IT'S CHANGED IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS THAT THE COMMUNITY CENTER IS OFF LIMITS DURING THE DAY THE POOL IS ONLY AVAILABLE TO THE SCHOOL AND THAT IS STAFFED BY A PHYSICAL EDUCATION TEACHER. SO YOU KNOW, AS YOU KNOW THE COMMUNITY CAN'T USE THE GYM DURING THE SCHOOL DAY AND THE COMMUNITY CAN'T USE THE POOL. AND HOPEFULLY IF YOU HAVE A SWIM INSTRUCTOR HIRED AT YOUR SCHOOL, IT'S YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU MENTIONED THE UNION IT'S A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE UNION THAT WE'RE ONLY ALLOWING SCHOOL STUDENTS DURING THE DAY TO USE THOSE FACILITIES. SO THE STAFFING FOR YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNITY OUTSIDE OF THE SCHOOL DAY IN IF IT'S AFTERNOON SWIM LESSONS, IF IT'S YOU KNOW THE WEEKEND COME AND LOOKING FORWARD TO THE SUMMER WHEN WE HAVE SUMMER CAMPS THAT THAT'S YOU KNOW LIFEGUARDS THAT BISA Y F IS HIRING SO I WOULDN'T WANT THERE TO BE AN ASSUMPTION THAT DURING THE SCHOOL DAY THE COMMUNITY IS LIKE MISSING OUT ON SOME SORT OF , YOU KNOW, ACCESS TO THE POOL BECAUSE THE SCHOOL DEFINITELY HAS, YOU KNOW, NOT JUST PRIORITY BUT THE ONLY ONES WHO HAVE ACCESS DURING THE SCHOOL DAY TO THE POOLS.  BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID, I MEAN A BIG QUESTION FOR ME FOR THE CONTINENT BUT OTHERS THAT YOU KNOW, KIND OF SPENT A LOT OF MONEY AND TIME ON MAINTENANCE ISSUES THAT WERE OVERDUE AND NEEDED BUT THEN NEVER GOT TO THE POINT WHERE AS COMPLETE THE CONDITIONS AND EXAMPLE THE HENNIGAN LIKE WHY DID WE STOP WHY DID WE NOT KEEP GOING?  THE COMMUNICATION LETTER THAT I SAW THAT WENT OUT TO THE COMMUNITY YOU KNOW MENTIONED THAT THEY RAN OUT OF MONEY SO MAYBE IT'S MONEY BUT WHY WHY DID THERE WHY DID WE PUT SO MUCH TIME INVESTMENT SHUTTING DOWN A RESOURCE AND WORKING ON IT AND PUTTING A LOT OF WORK INTO IT AND THEN NOT COMPLETE IT IF THERE COULD JUST BE SOME SORT OF EXPLANATION TO WHAT THAT LOOKED LIKE. YEAH, I THINK THAT'S THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.  SO WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE WAY THAT OUR BUDGET ALLOCATIONS WENT FOR THE PAST FISCAL YEAR AND THE YEARS THAT WE CURRENTLY IN IT, IT BECAME THAT POOLS THEMSELVES WERE BEING SUBBED INTO ANOTHER CONTRACT THE WORK WAS TAKING AWAY FROM THE OVERALL BUILDING WORK THAT WE WERE DOING AND WHILE WE DID MAKE MOST OF THESE POOLS OPERABLE FOR A PERIOD OF TIME THE ADDITIONAL WORK, THE EXPLORATORY WORK, THE UNFORESEEN CONDITIONS CAME TO A POINT WHERE THEY WERE SO HIGH IN VALUE THAT THEY WOULD BE TAKING AWAY A TOO MUCH COST FROM THE EXISTING DPS MAINTENANCE LINES THAT WERE THERE. IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT WE COULDN'T CONTINUE TO DO THE WORK THAT THERE WASN'T A BUDGET IN PLACE BUT WITH THE VEHICLE THAT WAS IN PLACE WITH THOSE SPECIFIC CONTRACTS WE KNEW THAT WE NEEDED TO DO SOMETHING MUCH LARGER IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COULD NOT ONLY BRING THESE RESOURCES BACK ONLINE BUT WE COULD CONTINUE TO SERVICE THEM FOR A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME.  AND THAT BECAME THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OUR EXISTING CONTRACT THAT WASN'T SPECIFIED FOR POOL AND POOL NEEDS AND POOL MAINTENANCE VERSUS THE ONE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING OUT IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS. SO THERE WAS KIND OF A HALT TO WORK WHEN YOU SAW THAT THERE WAS A LOT MORE WORK NEEDED AND WE KNOW THE SPECIFICS OF CERTAIN POOLS WHAT WAS LIKE OUTSTANDING, HOW DO WE MAKE THAT LIKE PRIORITY OF WHICH POOLS THEN GOT TO BE FINISHED, WHICH ONES HAD TO STOP? AND ONE THING I CAN SAY NOW AND WE DON'T NEED THIS ANSWER NOW BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL IF WE GOT AN UPDATE OF LIKE OF OUR 18 POOLS BECAUSE OF QUESTIONS IN THE LAST THREE YEARS AND I'M PLANNING ON FILING ANOTHER ONE THIS COMING JANUARY. AND THE NEW TERM IS THAT, YOU KNOW, A HEARING EARLY ON TO GET AN UPDATE LIKE WE HAVE THESE RESOURCES.  WE'RE COMMITTED AS A CITY. WE HAVE AN ADMINISTRATION THAT REALLY WANTS TO MAKE SURE THAT SWIMMING IS YOU KNOW, NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, SUMMER PROGRAMING BUT SWIMMING ITSELF IS YOU KNOW, EVERY CHILD HAS ACCESS TO IT.  BUT OF OUR 18 POOLS, HOW MANY ARE FULLY OPEN NOW?  HOW MANY ARE CLOSED BECAUSE OF MAINTENANCE? HOW MANY LIKE YOU MENTIONED SOMETIMES WE OPEN THEM BUT IT'S A BAND-AID AND YOU KNOW THAT IT MAY NEED TO BE SHUT TO DO SOME ADDITIONAL WORK TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE LIKE HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE FOR EVERY ALL OF OUR 18 POOLS TO LOOK LIKE THE FLAHERTY POOL? I WOULD LIKE AND I WOULD HOPE THAT THAT'S OUR GOAL THAT AS WE START TO SEE, YOU KNOW, YEARS OF DISINVESTMENT IN OUR SCHOOL BUILDINGS AND IN OUR POOLS THAT WE'RE HOPING TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE ALL OF OUR POOLS LOOK LIKE THE FLAHERTY POOL. I'LL USE THAT AS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THEY ALL SHOULD, RIGHT? YEAH. SO IF WE AND OBVIOUSLY THIS PROBABLY YOU CAN'T ANSWER THAT RIGHT NOW BUT I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT IF YOU COULD YOU KNOW YOU CAN TALK TO IT NOW BUT IF WE HAD AN UPDATE SO IT'S CLEAR BECAUSE OFTENTIMES TOO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT LIKE YOU KNOW THERE'S WORK COMING IN MAYBE THIS SUMMER LIKE HOW MANY POOLS HOW MANY COMMUNITY CENTERS ARE WE PLANNING TO SHUT DOWN FOR HVAC THIS SUMMER? BUT HOW MANY WILL ALSO BE SHUT DOWN THAT WILL ALSO GET POOL WORK DONE BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, IT'S THE COMMUNICATION AND AS COUNSELORS WE DO WE GET A LOT OF PEOPLE CALLING US DIRECTLY.  SO WE DEFINITELY HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, WORK TOGETHER MAKING SURE WE'RE SHARING THIS WITH YOU NOT JUST THE CORRECT INFORMATION BUT THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE AND IT'S NOT UP TO ME IT'S NEVER A BLAME GAME. IT'S LIKE HOW DO WE WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY DOESN'T FEEL LIKE YOU KNOW BECAUSE SOMETIMES THEN AS AN AT LARGE COUNCIL I DO SEE YOU KNOW, COMMUNITIES START TO FEEL LIKE SOME NEIGHBORHOODS ARE GETTING SOME THINGS THAT OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS AREN'T BUT OBVIOUSLY BASED ON A FACILITIES DECISION LIKE YOU PRIORITIZE POOLS PROBABLY NOT JUST FOR FINANCIAL REASONS BUT YOU KNOW FOR MAINTENANCE. IT'S IT'S SMARTER TO DO THIS OR YOU HAVE TO GET THIS DONE BEFORE ALL OTHER WORK THAT YOU KNOW WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN IN A BUILDING.  YEAH YEAH NO I JUST VERY QUICKLY I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION AND I AGREE WITH YOU. I THINK IT A SORT OF MORE ROBUST CONVERSATION IS PROBABLY IN ORDER.  BUT LAST SUMMER JUST TO SORT OF ANSWER THE QUESTION ABOUT LAST SUMMER SO THERE WERE 11 POOLS OPEN LAST SUMMER THAT SUMMER OF 2024.  11 OF THE 18 AND THAT THEY'LL BE MORE THAN THAT OPEN THIS THE SUMMER OF 2025. AND I CAN SPEAK VERY BRIEFLY ON SOME OF THE PRIORITIZATION THAT WE WENT THROUGH ON A LOT OF THE POOLS AND HOW WE DECIDED WHICH ONES WERE CONTINUING TO STAY OPEN VERSUS NOT AND THE MAJORITY OF THE PRIORITIZATION DID NOT RELATES SPECIFICALLY TO MAKING AN ORDER ON THE POOLS. IT SIMPLY CAME DOWN TO THE AMOUNT OF WORK INVOLVED AND HOW MUCH THAT BUDGET ALLOCATION CAME TO WHEN WE STARTED PRIORITY SIZING HOW WE WOULD TRY TO LOOK AT THE INDIVIDUAL POOLS THEMSELVES. OUR PRIORITY WAS NOT TO CANCEL ANY OF THE EXISTING PROGRAMING THAT WAS HAPPENING AND NOT EVERY POOL HAD PROGRAMING.  SO A LOT OF THAT HAD LIKE AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAMS SWIM TEAM, AQUATIC THERAPY FOR A LOT OF THOSE AND WE TRIED TO MAKE SURE THAT SCHOOLS DIDN'T HAVE TO CANCEL THESE PROGRAMS.  IN SOME CASES WE WERE SUCCESSFUL IN SOME CASES, YOU KNOW, WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT THOSE LONGER TERM SOLUTIONS. OKAY.  AND I KNOW THERE CAN'T BE AN EXACT BUT I THINK THE THREE OF US HERE TODAY I WOULD LOVE TO END THIS MEETING KNOWING THAT THERE WAS LIKE A DATE LIKE CAN WE HOPE THAT BY SPRING AND WHEN FAMILIES ARE SIGNING UP FOR SPRING PROGRAMING AT THEIR COMMUNITY CENTER, WILL IT BE SWIMMING? I KNOW I'VE SPOKEN TO FAMILIES IN SOUTH BOSTON WHO THEY'RE DRIVING YOU KNOW, TO THE MURPHY OR THEY'RE GOING TO A PRIVATE SWIMMING LESSON BUT OR CAN WE GUARANTEE THAT IN THE SUMMER ESPECIALLY THESE COMMUNITY CENTERS THAT ALSO OFFER SUMMER CAMPS? LIKE WHEN DO YOU THINK WE WOULD HAVE A A FIRMER LIKE A MORE FIRM ANSWER ON INDIVIDUAL PULL POOLS AND COMMUNITY CENTERS READY TO GO? ABSOLUTELY.  SO IN GENERAL THE FACILITIES DEPARTMENT WILL WORK THROUGH ALL OF OUR EXISTING PROJECTS INCLUDING THOSE WITH THE SUMMER, THOSE WITH OUTSIDE VENDORS, THOSE THAT ARE INTERNAL AND SOME OF OUR OTHER OPERATING CAPACITIES THAT MAY TAKE BUILDINGS OFF LINE.  WE DO COMMUNICATE THIS WOULD BE SO AS WE KNOW THEY HAVE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT PROGRAMS POOL AND POOL RELATED THAT OPERATE WITHIN OUR BUILDING. SO THAT'S IN JANUARY THAT WE START TO START WEEDING OUT THE BEGINNING OF THAT LIST AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE NOW WITH OUR RFP AND THE CONTRACT TIMELINE THAT'S COMING OUT WITH THE WORK LIKELY STARTING IN MARCH WOULD BE HOPEFUL FOR US.  I THINK THAT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO CHANGE BASED UPON WHEN FAMILIES ARE SIGNING UP AND SO I WOULD NEED TO WORK A LITTLE CLOSELY WITH SOME OF OUR PEERS AND WE DO HAVE THE BIWEEKLY MEETING SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE TO KEEP IN CLOSE CONTACT AND GET THAT INFORMATION BACK TO YOU. I HAVE ONE LAST QUESTION MANY NEIGHBORHOOD KIDS LIKE WE WERE JUST OUT IN ALLSTON BRIGHTON WITH THE COMMUNITY CENTER THERE AND MANY NEIGHBORHOODS THE BUSY WIFE IS NOT THE ONLY POOL LIKE IN CHARLESTOWN. THERE IS A WHY THERE IS YOU KNOW, A BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB BUT THERE ARE POCKETS IN OUR CITY MATTAPAN DORCHESTER WHERE OUR BY WAY OF POOLS ARE THE ONLY SWIMMING OPTION FOR A LARGE RADIUS TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION TO PRIORITIZE RBC WAY OUR POOLS WHICH WE HAVE CONTROL OVER OBVIOUS THAT WE CAN'T CONTROL ONE OTHER PRIVATE POOLS SO THAT WE'RE NOT SEEING ANOTHER SUMMER OR ANOTHER YOU KNOW THE YEAR GO BY WHERE CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS ARE SAYING YOU KNOW THERE ISN'T A POOL OPEN AT ALL IN DORCHESTER. RIGHT. OR THERE'S NOT ONE POOL OPEN FOR US OR ACCESS BUT OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT A CITY POOL BUT THEY DO HAVE CLOSE BY ACCESS TO OTHER SWIMMING OPTIONS. YEAH. NO, I JUST TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION PERHAPS IN A MORE GENERAL WAY THE COLLABORATION HAS IMPROVED AND SO I THINK BETWEEN OUR AGENCIES NOW WE ARE MEETING ON A REGULAR BASIS AND SO TO BRIAN'S POINT IN TERMS OF PRIORITIZATION, THAT'S ABSOLUTELY TRUE.  BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT THE CITY AS A WHOLE JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS NOT ANY YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES YOU CAN'T HELP IT BUT THERE'S NOT ANY SORT OF LARGE GAPS THAT ARE CREATING A PROBLEM FOR A CERTAIN COMMUNITY . SO SO THAT THAT'S AN EFFORT THAT HAS IMPROVED AND I EXPECT IT TO CONTINUE TO IMPROVE. WELL, THAT'S GOOD TO HEAR. DO YOU HAVE ANY. COUNCILOR FLYNN.  THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. AGAIN, THANK YOU TO BRIAN AND EDMUND FOR THE WORK YOU'RE DOING. I SPENT MAY I SPENT THE TIME DISCUSSING THE CONDON POOL.  THIS TIME I DO WANT TO GET INTO THE BLACKSTONE POOL IN THE SOUTH AND ALSO IMPORTANT TO ME BLACKSTONE IS LITERALLY AS YOU GUYS KNOW IT'S BETWEEN CATHEDRAL PUBLIC HOUSING VILLAGE VICTORIA JUST DOWN THE ROAD FROM FROM ROXBURY AS WELL . A LOT OF A LOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE REALLY RELIED ON THAT POOL AT ONE TIME. THAT'S BEEN CLOSED FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME. GIVE US THE CURRENT STATUS OF THE BLACKSTONE WHERE WE'RE AT AND HOW CAN WE ENSURE THAT WE PROVIDE A SWIMMING POOL FOR MOST OF FOR KIDS OF COURSE SO THAT THEY CAN GO TO THE SWIMMING POOL LIKE KIDS FROM WEST ROXBURY COULD SWIM BACK BAY THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO TO NO SWIMMING POOLS.  BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE MY CONSTITUENTS STILL HAVE THAT SAME ABILITY.  THEY MAY LIVE IN PUBLIC HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS THAT MIGHT BE LOW INCOME BUT THEY DESERVE THAT SAME LEVEL OF RESPECT. SO I WANT TO I WANT TO SEE WHERE WE'RE AT ON THE BLACKSTONE SCHOOL.  SO THAT FOR ME IS A VERY TOUGH QUESTION TO ANSWER. I KNOW THAT THE POOL HAS BEEN INOPERABLE FOR A VERY LONG TIME AND I WOULD DEFINITELY LIKE TO SEE IT OPERATING.  WHEN WE DID OUR ASSESSMENT OF THAT LOCATION AND A FEW OTHERS, WE FOUND THAT THE WORK THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IN THE BLACKSTONE POOL WOULD INVOLVE LARGELY AN EXCAVATION OF THE ENTIRE POOL.  THAT LEAVES US IN A STATE RIGHT NOW WHERE WE NEED TO GET A LARGE CAPITAL PROJECT IN ORDER TO COMPLETELY OVERHAUL THAT WHOLE POOL AREA JUST BECAUSE OF THE THE SHELL ITSELF. ALL OF THE TRAIN LINES AND THE GROUNDWATER IS COMING BACK INTO THAT POOL.  AND THOUGH WE'VE TRIED A LOT OF MITIGATING EFFORTS IN ORDER TO ALLEVIATE THESE PROBLEMS, THEY WERE UNSUCCESSFUL.  SO WE DID SEE THAT THERE IS MONEY IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET RIGHT NOW FOR A STUDY FOR THE EXACT SCOPE OF WORK THAT WE WOULD NEED TO GET TOGETHER FOR THAT POOL TO MOVE FORWARD. UNFORTUNATELY I DON'T HAVE A TIMELINE PRESENT ON WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. I THINK YOU AND I, BRIAN AND AND I THINK YOU WERE THERE BUT WE VISITED THE BLACKSTONE MAYBE FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS AGO IN WENT TO THE POOL WITH SOME OF THE TEAM AND SOME OF THE B.C. WIFE TEAM AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THEY TOLD ME . BUT IT HAS BEEN SHUT DOWN FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME.  SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS WE'RE LOOKING AT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET NEEDED TO FIX THAT AND TO MAKE SIGNIFICANT MAJOR CHANGES. IS THAT ACCURATE? I WOULD SAY YES, THAT IS ACCURATE. HOW HOW MUCH MONEY DO YOU THINK YOU KNOW COULD YOU ESTIMATE THAT? ARE YOU TALKING LIKE 20 MILLION BUCKS OR SOMETHING OR 30 MILLION BUCKS OR IT WOULD BE VERY HARD FOR ME TO PUT A NUMBER ON THAT AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE DESIGN STUDY FOR US WOULD PAY BECAUSE I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT'S UNDERNEATH THAT POOL, WHAT'S CAUSING THE GROUNDWATER. AND I THINK THAT EVEN THE UNFORESEEN CONDITIONS THAT WE'LL GET INTO COULD CAUSE THAT NUMBER TO CHANGE DRASTICALLY, ESPECIALLY WITH THE AFFECTED SPACES.  YEAH, I NOTICE THE GROUNDWATER ALSO AT THE POOL BUT WHERE IS WHAT IS THE REASON FOR THAT?  DO WE DO WE DO WE KNOW THE REASON? I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT REASON BUT FROM SPECULATION AND KIND OF GOING OUT TO THE SITE WE EXPECT THAT ONE OF THE THE TRAIN LINES THAT GOES OUT INTO THAT AREA WITH SOUTH BOSTON,  SOME VERY HIGH WATER TABLE IS CRACKED AND THAT THE WATER THAT BUILDS UP FROM THAT WATER TABLE IS THEN COMPETING WITH PRESSURE AND PUSHING IT BACK INTO THE POOL.  OKAY.  I ALSO SPOKE TO THE DCF COMMISSIONER ABOUT THIS AS WELL AND AND TO MR MARCEL AS WELL.  BUT IN THE MEANTIME, WHAT ARE WE DOING? WHAT CAN WE DO ESPECIALLY THIS SPRING FOR YOUNG PEOPLE FROM ROXBURY FROM THE SOUTH AND THE NEED TO GET SWIMMING LESSONS THEY HAVEN'T HAD THEM.  WHAT CAN WE DO? WHAT ARE WE DOING TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S A THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO SWIM?  AND THEN THE OTHER PART OF THE QUESTION IS I I'M PRETTY ACTIVE IN THE DISABLED VETERANS MOVEMENT ACROSS ACROSS BOSTON, ACROSS MASSACHUSETTS AND FOR A LOT OF DISABLED VETERANS, YOU KNOW, HAVING ACCESS TO A SWIMMING POOL MAKES A WORLD OF A DIFFERENCE IN JUST BEING IN THE WATER. STRETCHING YOUR MUSCLES SWIMMING. BUT FOR FOR ALL PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES, SWIMMING IS A TREMENDOUS EXERCISE AND FOR A LOT A LOT OF PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES IN AND AROUND PARTICULAR AREAS SUCH AS THE SOUTH BEND OR ROXBURY, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE THE MEANS TO DRIVE TO NEWTON TO TO USE THEIR POOL.  SO WHAT ARE WE DOING IN THE MEANTIME FOR PEOPLE THAT REALLY NEED ACCESS TO A SWIMMING POOL IN SOUTH END IN ROXBURY?  I CAN THINK OF COUNCILOR I CAN SPEAK IN SORT OF A GENERAL WAY BUT I DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF B.C. I HAVE. BUT WHAT I WILL SAY IS I THINK THE IMPORTANT THING TO DO IS YOU KNOW, BETWEEN BRIAN AND I AND MY WIFE IT'S FULL STEAM AHEAD ON ALL OF THE EXISTING PROJECTS TO GET AS MANY POOLS OPEN AS POSSIBLE AND THEN ALSO TO UPLIFT AND SORT OF PROMOTE THE POOLS THAT ARE OPEN.  SO FOR EXAMPLE IN ROXBURY THE MASON POOL IS OPEN. WE'VE MADE SOME RECENT INVESTMENT IN THERE. WE'VE REPLACED LIGHTS AND SORT OF OPERATING IT PRETTY WELL AT THE MOMENT AND SO I THINK I WOULD TRY TO MOVE FULL STEAM AHEAD ON THE EXISTING PROJECTS AND UPLIFT THE POOLS THAT ARE OPEN AND AVAILABLE TO THEM. THE MASON IS ACROSS ACROSS THE WAY FROM LIKE MASS IS AND IT.  CORRECT. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH WE'RE VICTORIA DINER IS SORT OF LIKE RIGHT IN THE OTHER DIRECTION LIKE YEAH ACROSS FROM THE PARK. THE PARK IN CLIFFORD PARK? YEAH. YEAH, I WENT TO THAT POOL ABOUT A YEAR AGO AT NIGHTTIME AND I SAW A LOT OF PEOPLE USING IT FOR SWIMMING LAPS AND GETTING THEIR EXERCISE. IT WAS IT WAS PRETTY WELL ORGANIZED AND THE POOL WERE GREAT THERE AND I WAS GLAD TO SEE PEOPLE USING IT. BUT IT IT SHOWS YOU THAT, YOU KNOW, POOLS ARE CRITICAL BUT BUT GETTING BACK TO THE BLACKSTONE, THAT'S WHAT I WANT FOR MY FOR MY CONSTITUENTS AS WELL I CAN'T HAVE POOLS AND SOME NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE OPEN AND THEY'RE DOING VERY WELL AND THEN POOLS AND LOW INCOME AREAS MANY COMMUNITIES OF COLOR ARE NEXT TO BOSTON HOUSING AUTHORITY DEVELOPMENTS AND THEIR POOLS ARE CLOSED. THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S A PROBLEM FOR ME . I JUST CAN'T I JUST CAN'T ACCEPT THAT I'M NOT BLAMING YOU GUYS.  I'M NOT BLAMING ANYBODY. BUT WHAT WHAT I DO WANT IS I WANT I WANT IT FIXED AND I KNOW WE WILL GET THERE ON THE CONDEMNED AND BLACKSTONE IS CERTAINLY WE'RE TALK AND WE'RE TALKING YEARS THEY'LL GUYS AREN'T WE FOR THE BLACKSTONE. YES IT COULD BE YEARS.  ARE YOU ABLE TO WORK WITH ME ON A SHORT TERM AND LONG TERM PLAN ON HOW WE GET TO OPENING THE POOL BUT ALSO HOW WE'RE ABLE TO HELP PEOPLE THAT DESPERATELY NEED A POOL IN THE SOUTH END IN ROXBURY? YES, THAT ABSOLUTELY WILLING TO SIT DOWN AND AND FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH SHORT AND LONG TERM SITUATIONS. OKAY. YEAH, THE THE THE RESORT. WELL, LET ME ASK YOU ONE OTHER QUESTION. DOES THIS ALSO HAVE TO DO WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF A NEW BLACKSTONE SCHOOL AS WELL AND IF THERE'S THE POSSIBILITY A NEW BLACKSTONE SCHOOL, WHAT IMPACT DOES THAT HAVE ON ON ON NEW BLACKSTONE POOL?  I WOULD SAY THERE WAS A POSSIBILITY OF A NEW BLACKSTONE. I THINK THERE'S STILL A POSSIBILITY OF A NEW BLACKSTONE WHICH WE DID SUBMITTED FOR A COURT PROGRAM A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WHICH IT WAS DENIED. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S STILL BEING DISCUSSED BETWEEN THE SUPERINTENDENT AND OUR CAPITAL PLANNING TEAM TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE NEXT STEPS FOR THAT SITE MIGHT BE.  AND WHEN YOU AND I WERE AT THE BLACKSTONE SCHOOL AND WALKING THROUGH TO GET TO THE POOL, IT WAS THE MOST DIFFICULT PROCESS TO NAVIGATE IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY GOING UPSTAIRS GOING DOWNSTAIRS WAS NAVIGATING CERTAIN HALLWAYS.  IT WAS THE MOST DIFFICULT, DIFFICULT JOURNEY.  BUT FOR STUDENTS THAT ARE TRYING TO MAKE THAT TO OR FOR ANYONE ELSE COMING FROM THE SCHOOL TO THE POOL I KNOW THEY HAVE A CLOSE CONNECTION BUT CERTAINLY WAS POORLY DESIGNED. FULLY AGREE THAT'S A CRAZY SCHOOL BUT AS SO SO WE'RE WE'RE AWAITING BASICALLY WHAT THE WHAT THE LONG TERM PLAN IS FOR THE POOL AND AND FOR THE SCHOOL AT THE SAME TIME OR JUST THE POOL I THINK I THINK THOSE ARE ALSO PART OF THOSE LARGER CONVERSATIONS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN IF WE INVEST IN ONE WITHOUT THE OTHER THE EFFECTS. OKAY.  SO IF WE IF WE JUST WENT FORWARD ON A POOL I WOULD HAVE A MAJOR IMPACT ON ON THE SCHOOL ITSELF. YES.  AND IF WE WENT FORWARD ON A NEW SCHOOL THAT WOULD HAVE IT IT WOULD HAVE A MAJOR PROBLEM ON REOPENING EVENTUALLY THE POOL, RIGHT? I GUESS. YES. OKAY. IS THERE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOUR TEAM HAS ON WHAT THE BEST OPTION IS KNOWING THAT WE HAVE DIFFICULT DECISIONS TO MAKE IDEALLY WITH THE LOCATION IT WOULD BE A COMPLETE OVERHAUL OF THE BLACKSTONE INCLUDING THE POOL.  I THINK THAT FEASIBILITY AND DOING THE STUDIES AND HAVING THOSE LARGER CONVERSATIONS IS WHAT'S GOING TO GET US CLOSER TO A ON WHAT PATH FORWARD WE CAN TAKE. I AGREE WITH YOU I THINK I THINK I'M A COMPLETE COMPLETELY NEW SCHOOL, A COMPLETELY NEW POOL IS IS IS THE BEST SCENARIO AND CERTAINLY IT'S GOING TO BE EXPENSIVE.  BUT I DO THINK THE THE RESIDENTS DESERVE IT.  I THINK THEY DESERVE A NEW SCHOOL. I THINK THEY DESERVE A NEW POOL AND EVEN THE NEW SCHOOL EVEN GOING INTO THE SCHOOL I WAS THERE VISITING THE SCHOOL PRINCIPAL MICHELLE BACK LAST MONTH BUT FEEL THE LIBRARY HAVE YOU'VE NOTICED THE LIBRARY THERE IS PROBABLY THE SMALLEST LIBRARY IN ALMOST IN THE MIDDLE OF THE THE HALLWAY AND TO SIT DOWN AND READ A BOOK AND TRY TO CONCENTRATE IS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT BUT THOSE STUDENTS DESERVE A STATE OF THE ART SCHOOL AS WELL THEY DESERVE A STATE OF THE ART POOL AS WELL. BUT AGAIN, NOT BLAMING BLAMING YOU BECAUSE YOU BOTH HAVE BEEN VERY PROFESSIONAL AND HAVE BEEN VERY HELPFUL. SO. MADAM CHAIR, I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU COUNCILOR WEAPON NONE FOR ME . THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY OTHER CLOSING SYSTEMS, WE DON'T HAVE ANY PUBLIC TESTIMONY. THANK THANK YOU FOR HAVING US TONIGHT. NO, THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PARTNERSHIP. COLLABORATION. I THINK THAT THIS CONVERSATION AS ALWAYS IT'S THE BEGINNING.  BUT IF WE COULD WORK ON KIND OF ORGANIZING THAT INFORMATION ABOUT ALL OUR POOLS BECAUSE IN THE NEW YEAR DEFINITELY I WILL BE FILING, YOU KNOW, A HEARING TO TALK ABOUT ALL OF THEM BUT OBVIOUSLY NO NEED TO HAVE IT SOONER LIKE WE CAN TALK DIRECTLY ABOUT WHEN YOU THINK A GOOD TIME YOU KNOW EARLY SPRING TO HAVE THAT HEARING WHERE WE CAN THEN BECAUSE THE OTHER COUNSELORS YOU KNOW WOULD LIKE TO KNOW STATUS OF POOLS IN THEIR AREA ALSO. SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. LIKE WE SAID AT THE BEGINNING IT'S ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WORKING TOGETHER AND COLLABORATION TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR RESIDENTS HAVE WHAT THEY DESERVE. SO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING OUR QUESTIONS. THIS HEARING ON DOCKET ONE 6 TO 8 IS ADJOURNED. THANK YOU