##VIDEO ID:UPGa34_D7YE##  SHARON DURKIN DISTRICT . OH SORRY . FOR THE RECORD MY NAME IS SHARON DURKIN, DISTRICT CITY COUNSELOR AND I'M THE CHAIR OF THE BOSTON CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE ON PLANNING DEVELOPMENT AND TRANSPORTATION. TODAY IS AUGUST 12, 2024. THIS HEARING IS BEING RECORDED. IT IS ALSO BEING LIVESTREAMED AT BOSTON.COM OF BACKSLASH CITY. DASH COUNCIL DASH TV AND BROADCAST UNEXPECTEDLY CHANNEL EIGHT RCN CHANNEL 82 AND FIOS CHANNEL 964. WRITTEN COMMENTS MAY BE SENT TO THE COMMITTEE EMAIL AT C DOT PLAN D AT BOSTON.COM AND WILL BE MADE PART OF THE RECORD AND AVAILABLE TO ALL COUNCILORS PUBLIC TESTIMONY WILL BE TAKEN AT THE END OF THE HEARING. INDIVIDUALS MAY BE CALLED AN ORDER IN WHICH THEY'VE SIGNED UP AND WE WILL HAVE 2 MINUTES TO TESTIFY. IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN TESTIFYING IN PERSON PLEASE WRITE YOUR NAME TO THE SIGN UP SHEET NEAR THE ENTRANCE OF THE CHAMBER. IF YOU ARE LOOKING TO TESTIFY VIRTUALLY PLEASE EMAIL OUR CENTRAL STAFF LIAISON QUORUM ON TRON AND THAT'S C0RA DOT M0 N T R OMD AT BOSTON.COM FOR THE LINK AND YOUR NAME WILL BE ADDED TO THE LIST. TODAY'S HEARING IS ON DOCKET AND I'M GOING TO READ ALL OF THE DOCKETS IN ORDER SO BEAR WITH ME . DOCKET 0107 MESSAGE IN ORDER FOR THE CONFIRMATION OF THE APPOINTMENT OF PETER SANBORN AS A MEMBER OF THE SOUTHEND LANDMARKS DISTRICT COMMISSION FOR A TERM EXPIRING JUNE 30TH 2025. DOCKET 0110 MESSAGE IN ORDER FOR THE CONFIRMATION OF THE APPOINTMENT OF NANCY RUSSELL AS A MEMBER OF THE SAME PART OF OUR ARCHITECTURAL COMMISSION FOR A TERM EXPIRING NOVEMBER TEN, 2026.  DOCKET 0111 MESSAGE IN ORDER FOR THE CONFIRMATION OF THE APPOINTMENT OF JIM COTTON AS A MEMBER OF THE SUPPORTIVE ARCHITECTURAL COMMISSION FOR A TWO YEAR TERM EXPIRING NOVEMBER TEN, 2026. DOCKET NUMBER 0112 MESSAGE IN ORDER FOR THE CONFIRMATION OF THE APPOINTMENT OF DOUGLAS MILLER AS A MEMBER OF THE SAME BOAT OF ARCHITECTURAL COMMISSION FOR A TERM EXPIRING NOVEMBER TEN, 2026.  DOCKET 0636 MESSAGE IN ORDER FOR THE CONFIRMATION OF THE APPOINTMENT OF PAUL RABER OFFENDER THE SECOND AS AN ALTERNATE MEMBER OF THE 4.8 CHANNEL LANDMARK DISTRICT COMMISSION FOR A TERM EXPIRING MARCH 19TH 2027 DOCKET 0640 MESSAGE IN ORDER FOR THE CONFIRMATION OF THE APPOINTMENT OF ANGELA WARD HIATT AS A MEMBER OF THE HIGHLAND PARK ARCHITECTURAL CONSERVATION COMMISSION FOR A TERM EXPIRING JUNE 30TH 2025 DOCKET 00461 MESSAGE IN ORDER FOR THE CONFIRMATION OF THE APPOINTMENT OF CHARMAINE TURNER AS A MEMBER OF THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEAL FOR A TERM EXPIRING MAY 1ST, 2026 DOCKET 0698 MESSAGE IN ORDER FOR THE CONFIRMATION OF THE APPOINTMENT OF KEVIN RETI AS A MEMBER OF THE SOUTHEND LANDMARKS COMMISSION FOR A TERM EXPIRING JUNE 30TH 2025 DOCKET 0864 MESSAGE IN ORDER FOR THE CONFIRMATION OF THE APPOINTMENT OF ALAN MCCALL AS AN ALTERNATE MEMBER OF THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FOR A TERM EXPIRING MAY FIRST 2027 DOCKET 0865 MESSAGE IN ORDER FOR THE CONFIRMATION OF THE APPOINTMENT OF KERRY WALSH LOGUE AS AN ALTERNATE MEMBER OF THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FOR A TERM EXPIRING NOVEMBER 1ST, 2025 DOCKET 00866 MESSAGE IN ORDER FOR THE CONFIRMATION OF THE REAPPOINTMENT OF HORNSEY BETTER BRANDS AS A MEMBER OF THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEAL FOR A TERM EXPIRING MAY 1ST 2027 DOCKET 0867 MESSAGE IN ORDER FOR THE CONFIRMATION OF THE REAPPOINTMENT OF SHERRI AS MEMBER OF THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEAL FOR A TERM EXPIRING MAY FOUR, 2026 DOCKET 1179 MESSAGE IN ORDER FOR THE CONFIRMATION OF THE APPOINTMENT OF JANEY MCNEIL AS A MEMBER OF THE ZONING COMMISSION FOR A TERM EXPIRING MAY ONE, 2025. THESE MATTERS ARE SPONSORED BY MAYOR MICHELLE WU DOCKET 001070 AND 0100 I'M SORRY 011020112 WERE REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON NOVEMBER 15, 2023 DOCKETS NUMBER 00640 AND THROUGH 0641 WERE REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON APRIL 3RD, 2024 DOCKETS DOCKET 00698 WAS REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON APRIL TEN, 2024 AND DOCKETS 0864380866 REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON MAY 22ND, 2024 AND DOCKETS 1179 WERE REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON AUGUST SEVEN, 2020.  FOR TODAY I'M JOINED BY MY COLLEAGUES IN ORDER OF ARRIVAL COUNCILOR ED FLYNN, COUNCILOR CARLOTTA ZAPATA COUNCIL PRESIDENT LUCY LOUIJEUNE I THINK THAT'S IT FOR NOW.  I WOULD NOW LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO JO CORNISH FOR AN OPENING STATEMENT ON SOME OF THE DOCKETS THAT WE JUST LISTED.  YOU KNOW THAT WE WENT ON TO LIST. THANK YOU.  THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR HAVING MEJIA AND THANK YOU FOR MOVING THESE COMMISSIONER APPOINTMENTS FORWARD. I'M JOE CORNISH. I'M THE DIRECTOR DESIGN REVIEW FOR THE BOSTON LANDMARKS COMMISSION AND WE RELY HEAVILY ON THE WORK OF VOLUNTEERS THROUGHOUT THE CITY TO SERVE ON OUR TEN HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSIONS AS WELL AS ON THE BOSTON LANDMARKS COMMISSION. SO WE THANK THEM ALL FOR FOR THEIR SERVICE TO US. WE HAVE SOME GREAT NEW FACES COMING ON TO OUR COMMISSIONS AND SOME RE APPOINTMENTS OF SOME REALLY LONG STANDING VOLUNTEERS WHO HAVE GREAT GIVEN GREAT SERVICE TO THE CITY.  SO THANK YOU. A PLEASURE BEING HERE. THANK YOU FOR THE TIME. THANK YOU SO MUCH.  WHO IS ON THE COMMISSION?  OKAY. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO GO TO THESE APPOINTMENTS AND THE ONES THAT ARE HERE IN PERSON FIRST.  SO I'D LIKE TO TURN TO DOCKET NUMBER 0111 ALSO KNOWN AS JIM MCCUTCHEON IS THE FIRST WHO IS ON WHO HAS BEEN PUT FORWARD TO BE ON THE SAME ARCHITECTURAL COMMISSION AND THEN I SEE THAT WE HAVE NANCY RUSSELL 0110 VIRTUALLY SO WE'LL WE'LL HEAR FROM JIM KITCHEN FIRST.  GOOD AFTERNOON. DO YOU WANT TO MAKE HIS MY FIRST SO SO WE'LL GIVE YOU 2 MINUTES TO JUST TALK ABOUT YOUR INTEREST IN THE APPOINTMENT AND THEN I'LL OPEN IT UP TO MY COLLEAGUES TO ASK QUESTIONS.  ALL RIGHT. SO IT'S GOING TO BE A BIT OFF THE CUFF BECAUSE I DIDN'T PREPARE I WASN'T SURE WHAT TO PREPARE.  SO MY NAME IS JIM MCCUTCHEON. I LIVE IN SAINT PETER AND I'VE LIVED THERE ABOUT FIVE YEARS OR SO AT THIS POINT IN TOTAL I'VE LIVED IN THE CITY FOR ABOUT TEN YEARS TOTAL AT THIS POINT WHEN MY WIFE AND I RELOCATED FROM THE SUBURBS ABOUT TEN YEARS AGO OR SO BY DEGREE I HAVE BOTH AN UNDERGRADUATE AND GRADUATE DEGREE IN ARCHITECTURE FROM WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY OF ST LOUIS AND THEN FROM SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY.  MY MASTER'S AND I PRACTICED ARCHITECTURE FOR A SHORT WHILE AND THEN I TOTALLY CHANGED COURSES WENT INTO BUSINESS BUT LONG STORY SHORT NOW I FELT REAL ESTATE IN THE CITY. SO WHY IS IT IMPORTANT TO ME ? I LIKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD HISTORICALLY IT'S BEAUTIFUL. IT HAS A LOT OF CHARM TO IT AND I KIND OF LOOKED AT AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PRESERVE WHAT'S THERE AND NOT LET THINGS GET RUINED LIKE I'VE SEEN HAPPEN SOMETIMES ON MY BLOCK A LITTLE BIT. SO I STARTED TECHNICALLY STILL WHO RUNS THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION TO FIND OUT ABOUT THIS OPPORTUNITY AND I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS KIND OF A NATURAL FIT BASED UPON MY BACKGROUND, MY INTERESTS, WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO ME AND LIVING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND INTENDING TO STAY WITH IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH AND I KNOW I'D LIKE TO DEFER TO OUR FIRST AND I KNOW THE SAME PART OF NEIGHBORHOOD. I LOVE IT SO MUCH.  I REPRESENT PART OF THE BACK BAY BUT UNFORTUNATELY NOT SEEING FOOTBALL SO I'D LIKE TO GO TO MY COLLEAGUE COUNCILOR FLYNN IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AND THEN WE'LL GO TO MY OTHER COLLEAGUES WHO REPRESENT ST PATEL AREA.  THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR AND THANK YOU JIM FOR BEING HERE AND FOR VOLUNTEERING FOR THIS IMPORTANT POSITION.  ST B12 IS A WONDERFUL NEIGHBORHOOD PROUD TO REPRESENT IT.  I KNOW COUNCILOR DURKAN ALSO HAS A LOT FRIENDS AND CONTACTS AND DOES A LOT OF GREAT WORK IN THAT COMMUNITY AS WELL. I DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR FOR BEING HERE AGREEING TO BE PART OF THIS COMMISSION THIS THIS BOARD MADAM CHAIR, I DO WANT TO MENTION TO YOU THAT I AM LEAVING EARLY FOR THIS MEETING. I DID GO OVER THE RESUMES OF . ALL OF THE CANDIDATES AND I WILL BE VOTING IN SUPPORT OF ALL OF THEM.  THEY ARE EXCEPTIONAL PEOPLE DEDICATED, HARDWORKING AND I DO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE MANY OF THEM ARE FROM MY DISTRICT BUT I ALSO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE JANEY MCNEILL WHO IS COMING ON THE ZONING COMMISSION THAT THAT I WILL PROUDLY SUPPORT AS WELL. SO MADAM MADAM CHAIR, THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCILOR FLYNN,  COUNCILOR CLAUDIA ZAPATA THANK THANK YOU, CHAIR. I JUST GOT THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET YOU. MY DISTRICT IS NOT ENCOMPASSED HERE BECAUSE I KNOW I TOLD YOU YOU'RE GOING TO SMALL STATE. I'M NOT GOING I'M GOING TO RESERVE A BULK OF MY QUESTIONS FOR FOLKS THAT ARE GOING TO BE ON THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS BECAUSE THAT DIRECTLY IMPACTS MY DISTRICT. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.  KNOW THAT THIS MEANS THAT YOU'RE TAKING TIME AWAY FROM YOUR FRIENDS AND FAMILY SO THANK YOU TO YOUR TO THE CITY OF BOSTON AND JUST YOUR OVERALL COMMITMENT TO MAKING OUR CITY BETTER AND BRIGHTER AND WE'LL COMPLY WITH ZONING GREAT.  THANK YOU SO MUCH. COUNCIL PRESIDENT REGION THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE JIM I ALSO PROMISED TO YOU HARD QUESTIONS SO HERE THEY COME. NO, BUT I JUST WE WERE TALKING ALSO WHEN WE MET EARLIER ABOUT HOW HARD IT IS TO SOMETIMES GET TO SERVE ON THESE COMMISSIONS BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE APPRECIATE IT'S A TIME COMMITMENT. IT'S A TIME COMMITMENT TO REVIEW AND TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, WHETHER OR NOT TO SUPPORT OUR PROJECT AND WHAT MORE INFORMATION NEED TO GET. AND SO IT IS A WAY OF SERVING OUR CITY IN OUR IN OUR COMMUNITY. SO I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR SIGNING UP TO DO THIS. YOU KNOW, I AM SURE THAT THERE WILL BE SOME COMPLEX ISSUES THAT WILL COME UP AND I GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF YOUR BACKGROUND AND YOUR RESUMé BELIEVE THAT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO HANDLE THIS AND THAT GOES FOR MEMBERS OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONS AS WELL. YOU KNOW OF COURSE I SEE JANEY HERE AND OTHERS WHO ARE GOING TO BE MEMBERS OF DIFFERENT THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS THE THE DIFFERENT FORT POINT CHANNEL LANDMARK DISTRICT COMMISSIONS. AND I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYONE FOR ALL OF THEIR SERVICE. SO THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU SO MUCH.  AND I THINK I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION BECAUSE I'VE DONE HAVE A LOT OF VERY HISTORIC BUILDINGS IN MY DISTRICT. DO YOU HAVE A PARTICULAR BECAUSE I HAVE A LOT OF PET PEEVES. DO YOU HAVE A LOT OF DO YOU HAVE ANY PET PEEVES IN THE DISTRICT OF THINGS THAT ARE THAT YOU KNOW, ARE PET PEEVES THAT PEOPLE EITHER DO WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, SUPPORT OF THE ARCHITECTURAL COMMISSION OR JUST RELEVANT TO TO THE WAYS IN WHICH, YOU KNOW, ARCHITECTURE INTERACTS WITH THE GOOD QUESTION OF TIME. AGAIN, YOU WENT THROUGH THIS ON THE RESTAURANT SIDE RIGHT?  OKAY. IT DOES. GOOD QUESTION. I GUESS MY BIGGEST QUESTION IS NOT A LOT OF IT IS SOME SIGNAGE THAT'S NOT HISTORICALLY RELEVANT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND IN MY MIND WHAT STANDS OUT THE MOST SINCE THE 7-ELEVEN AT THE CORNER IS 8 TO 12 AND WHAT DO I MEAN? THAT'S A GOOD EXAMPLE OF SORT OF WHAT'S NOT HISTORICALLY RELEVANT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD HERE FOR THAT.  THAT'S THE KIND OF STUFF THAT I KNOW THAT'S A GREAT ANSWER OR WAYS TO DO IT. YEAH, IT'S A GREAT ANSWER. I, I PARTICULARLY HATE WHEN SOMETHING IS TOO BIG AND FONT AND YOU'RE LIKE HOW DID THAT APPROVED? IT'S JUST LIKE BIGGER THAN ALL OF THE OTHER FONTS THAT WE'VE LET WE'VE LET BEYOND SIGNAGE. SO THAT'S A REALLY GREAT ANSWER. WELL I'M PROUD TO SUPPORT YOUR I'M MOVING YOU FORWARD AND I HOPE MY COLLEAGUES WILL SUPPORT YOUR WHEN YOU GO WELL OUR NEXT MEETING'S ON AUGUST 28TH SO YOU CAN LOOK FOR FOR THAT TO SEE WHETHER YOU'VE BEEN APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL . BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE WEREN'T ANY CONCERNS WITH YOUR NOMINATION. I AM PROUD TO MOVE FORWARD. THANK YOU. THANKS.  THANK YOU SO MUCH.  SO NEXT WE'RE GOING TO GO TO JUST BECAUSE I WANT TO GO IN TERMS OF THE TYPES OF FOLKS ARE HERE AND LIKE WHAT THEY'RE BEING APPOINTED FOR. SO WE'RE GOING TO GO TO NANCY RUSSELL AND THEN DOUG MILLER BOTH FOR THE SAME PART OF SO NANCY, I THINK YOU'RE ON ZOOM. I'M HERE. HI NANCY. WOULD YOU LIKE ME THERE? WOULD YOU LIKE TO GIVE LIKE AN OPENING STATEMENT ABOUT YOUR INTEREST IN THIS ROLE AND THEN WE'LL LET MY COLLEAGUES ASK ANY NECESSARY QUESTIONS. SURE. I MAY BE THE ALL TIME OR LITERALLY OR FIGURATIVELY BUT I PURCHASED THE SAME BUNCH OF STORY HERE 145 THE OLD SCHOOL HOUSE BUILDING BACK IN 1991. SO I'VE BEEN HERE FOR 33 YEARS AND I CAN TELL YOU WHEN I MOVED HERE IT WAS FROM TRADITIONAL BACK BAY I FALL OVER AND COMMONWEALTH AND I THOUGHT THIS WAS THE OTHER SIDE OF THE TRACKS BUT AS INSPIRING NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WAS GOING TO GROW TO BE FABULOUS WHICH IT HAS SO I'M DELIGHTED TO TELL YOU THAT I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD BEEN HERE A LONG TIME. I'VE SEEN A LOT OF CHANGES, A LOT OF GROWTH AND I THINK WE ALL WANT TO KIND OF KEEP IT TO BE THE THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE LOVE. SO I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO SERVE, YOU KNOW, AND BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE I COME FROM A BACKGROUND IN BANKING,  CORPORATE BANKING AND MANAGEMENT CONSULTING AND WE HAVE RETIRED NOW THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. SO I AM VERY, VERY FREE OF TIME THESE DAYS AND HAPPY AGAIN TO PARTICIPATE WITH YOU GUYS IN ANY WAY THAT I CAN. WE'VE HAD PEOPLE WHO LIVED IN THIS BUILDING WHO ARE AROUND THE COMMITTEE OVER MY MANY YEARS HERE AND IT'S ALWAYS A VERY IMPORTANT FUNCTION THAT THE COMMISSION PLAYS AND MAINTAINING THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK SO MUCH, NANCY. AND I SEE THAT YOU'VE LIVED IN THE SAME PART OF NEIGHBORHOOD FOR ALMOST 32 YEARS. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR COMMITMENT TO THE COMMUNITY AND FOR STAYING HERE AND NOW FOR YOUR FOR EVERYTHING YOU'RE DOING TO SUPPORT CIVICALLY AND GET INVOLVED AND MAINTAIN THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT'S INCREDIBLE AND I KNOW I'LL JUST GO TO AT-LARGE COUNCILOR OR SORRY COUNCIL PRESIDENT LOUIJEUNE DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? I DON'T BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THE WORK THAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO ON BEHALF OF THE CITY. SO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE FOR MY PLEASURE.  THANK YOU SO MUCH, NANCY. I'M DELIGHTED TO MOVE THIS DOCKET FORWARD AT THE AUGUST 28 COUNCIL MEETING SO SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET TO SEE YOU, YOU KNOW, STRUTTING YOUR CIVIC YOU KNOW,  YOUR YOUR CIVIC PARTICIPATION AT AT THIS COMMISSION.  WE'RE SO LUCKY TO HAVE YOU. WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.  OKAY. NEXT WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM DOUG MUELLER WHO'S ALSO ON ZOOM AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO GO TO CHERIE WHO IS ALSO ON ZOOM. SO SO CHERIE, GET READY DOUG,  DO YOU WANT TO GIVE AN OPENING STATEMENT? YES. HI, MY NAME IS DOUG MILLER. MY WIFE AND I HAVE LIVED ON ST PATEL STREET AND A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT ADDRESSES SINCE 2007 TWO EVENTS WE'RE RUNNING ON 17 YEARS AT THIS POINT.  I ALSO HAVE FOND INTEREST IN ARCHITECTURE AND HISTORY.  I LIKE JIM. I'M A REAL ESTATE BROKER IN THE CITY SO FAMILIAR WITH WHAT IS HISTORICAL AND WHAT PEOPLE HAVE MESSED UP IN THE PAST. I BELIEVE I CAUGHT THE TENSION OF WE STILL WHEN MY WIFE AND I DID OUR MOST RECENT RENOVATION WE FIXED A LOT OF ERRORS TO THE BUILDING AND IT BACK TO ITS HISTORICAL CHARACTER OUT OF OUR OWN DESIRE TO DO SO.  SO WE APPRECIATE THAT. WE LOVE THE STREET. WE HAVE NO INTENTIONS OF MOVING ANYWHERE. WE WANT TO KEEP IT BEAUTIFUL AND HOPEFULLY WHEN THE OPPORTUNITY PRESENTS TO FIX SOME OF THE PROBLEMS ON THE STREET WE CAN BE HELPFUL IN THAT PROCESS.  THANK YOU SO MUCH DOUG AND I SEE THAT YOU'VE IN THE SUMMARY OF YOUR RESUME YOU'VE ATTENDED A LOT OF ABUTTERS MEETINGS WITH GENUINE CURIOSITY WHICH I THINK IS THE PERFECT IT MEANS THAT YOU KNOW YOU'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN YOUR COMMUNITY AND CARED ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS FOR A LONG TIME AND I'M REALLY HONORED TO HAVING READ YOUR RESUME TO ADVANCE THIS NOMINATION. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO YOU WANT TO LET US KNOW BEFORE WE LET YOU GO?  NO, THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.  THANK YOU SO MUCH, DOUG. REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENCE HERE.  YOU'RE WELCOME. MY PLEASURE. THANK YOU. NEXT WE'LL HEAR FROM SHERRY JONG WHO IS BEING REAPPOINTED TO THE ZBA OR HAS BEEN PUT FORWARD TO BE REAPPOINTED TO THE ZBA. SHERRY, DO YOU HAVE AN OPENING STATEMENT?  NICE TO SEE YOU. NICE TO SEE YOU TOO. AND THANK YOU FOR THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO PARTICIPATE IN ZOOM. I HAVE BOTH A TODDLER AT HOME AND IN NURSING A I DON'T KNOW COUGH COLD FOR A FEW DAYS. THANK YOU AND I REALLY APPRECIATE OPPORTUNITY TO BE REQUIRED TO BE CONSIDERED FOR TO THE ZBA AS MANY MAY KNOW I'VE BEEN CIVICALLY ENGAGED IN THE CITY OF BOSTON FOR OVER 30 YEARS. I HAVE RESIDED IN BOSTON FOR ALMOST 30 YEARS A FIRST IN JAPAN AND THEN SINCE COVERED IN DORCHESTER AND HAVE WORKED IN THE CITY OF BOSTON. MY MY ENTIRE ADULT LIFE SO VERY CONNECTED WITH THE CITY OF BOSTON A PERSON CITY STATE GOVERNMENT OFFICE FOR THE CITY OF BOSTON AND NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES H.R. AND BOROUGH PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND FOR THE PAST 20 YEARS OVER 20 YEARS IN HEALTH CARE AND TUFTS MEDICAL CENTER SO VERY INVESTED IN THE CITY OF BOSTON . I'VE HAD THE PRIVILEGE TO SERVE ON THE ZBA SINCE 2021 AND LOOK FORWARD TO THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE TO DO SO. SHOULD THE COUNCIL SUPPORT MY REAPPOINTMENT? I THINK THANK YOU.  THANK YOU SO MUCH SHERRY. AND OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE A VERY IMPORTANT ROLE AT THE ZBA RIGHT NOW. CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE MORE ABOUT WHAT THAT EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN LIKE AND AND OBVIOUSLY YOU KNOW OBVIOUSLY AS COUNSELORS WE'RE ON A LOT OF MEETINGS WHERE WHERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE REALLY YOU KNOW, BOTH OF LIKE GREAT SIGNIFICANCE AND YOU KNOW AND ALSO OF THINGS THAT ARE A LITTLE BIT LESS FRAUGHT ARE BROUGHT FORWARD. CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT LIKE HOW YOU THINK ABOUT HOW YOU HOW YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT THE ZBA IS ROLE IS AND AND WHAT THAT EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN LIKE BEING AT THE CENTER OF SOME OF THE MOST FRAUGHT SITUATIONS THAT HAPPEN WITH IN NEIGHBORHOODS AND WITHIN STREET BLOCKS AND YOU KNOW OF COURSE OF COURSE AND ALSO WHAT THE PUBLIC INPUT MATTER YOU KNOW HOW YOU GUYS CONSIDER PUBLIC FEEDBACK AND INPUT OF COURSE I MEAN I WILL ONLY SPEAK FOR MYSELF BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE ONE FOOT ONE FULLY APPOINTED. THERE ARE UPWARDS OF 14 MEMBERS AND SO I WON'T PRESUME TO SPEAK FOR ANYONE ELSE BUT OBVIOUSLY AS A MEMBER AND AS CHAIR I SEEK TO BE FAIR OBJECTIVE TO LISTEN. YOU KNOW AS YOU MENTIONED THERE'S A LOT OF COMMUNITY INPUT. I REVIEW EVERYTHING THAT I CAN THAT COMES IN VIA VIA EMAIL OBVIOUSLY YOU KNOW, I'M BALANCING AS CHAIR MAKING SURE PEOPLE ARE HEARD AS WELL AS MAKING SURE OTHERS ARE HEARD IN THE Q AND SO AS YOU KNOW WE HAVE VERY FULL AGENDAS AND SO WE DO OUR BEST TO BALANCE THE LENGTH OF THE AGENDAS AND THE IMPORTANCE OF EACH CASE. AND SO THAT IS YOU KNOW, I PUT MY BEST FOOT FORWARD.  THANK YOU SO MUCH. I'LL TURN TO MY MY COLLEAGUE COUNCILOR CLAUDIA ZAPATA FOR HER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, CHAIR AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMITMENT TO THE CITY OF BOSTON.  I BELIEVE YOU AND I HAVE ALREADY SPOKEN DURING YOUR FIRST APPOINTMENT IN 2022 SO YOU MIGHT KNOW OR YOU WERE FIRST APPOINTED IN 2021 BUT YOU WERE IN FRONT OF THE BODY IN 2022, CORRECT?  IN DECEMBER YES. 2021 WAS VIA'S VIA ZOOM DURING COVID WHEN MAYOR WU WAS I BELIEVE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE AND THEN I CAME BACK BEFORE YOU BEFORE THE BODY I GUESS IN I THINK IT WAS 2022 OR IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN 2023 IT WAS IT WAS DECEMBER 12TH 2022 AND THE REASON WHY I KNOW THAT QUITE WELL IS BECAUSE I REFERENCED THAT HEARINGS A LOT AND THAT IS BECAUSE IN MY DISTRICT WE HAVE JUST WRAPPED UP NOT JUST IN RECENT MONTHS WRAPPED UP PLANNING SPONSORED IN PLAN CHARLESTOWN. AND SO I YOU KNOW, I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR YOU BECAUSE THIS BODY IS VERY POWERFUL AND YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TO TO DEFINE WHAT NEIGHBORHOODS LOOK LIKE MOVING FORWARD. AND JUST TO PUT THIS INTO CONTEXT, MY TEAM AND I WENT THROUGH THE DATA SET OF ANALYZE BOSTON AND WE LOOKED ALL THE WAY BACK TO 2013 AND WE FOUND THAT THERE WERE 980 CASES THAT HAVE GONE BEFORE THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS SEEKING VARIANCES IN EAST BOSTON AND 789 OF THEM HAVE BEEN APPROVED . SO THAT'S 80.5% OF VARIANCES HAVE BEEN APPROVED IN EAST BOSTON SINCE 2013. SINCE 2019 THERE HAVE BEEN 553 CASES IN EAST BOSTON AND 422 OF THEM HAVE BEEN APPROVED. AND SO JUST WITHIN THE LAST FIVE YEARS THAT 76% OF VARIANCE THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED IN EAST BOSTON AND THE REASON WHY THERE WAS SUCH A PUSH IN THE COMMUNITY IN BOTH CHARLESTOWN AND EAST BOSTON IS BECAUSE THIS WAS ALMOST LIKE DEATH BY A THOUSAND PAPER CUTS. THERE WERE MANY DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS THAT WERE COMING FORWARD WHERE ONE IN TWO FAMILY HOUSES WERE BEING RAISED AND THERE WERE NO STANDARDS. THE ZONING WAS ARCHAIC.  THE LAST TIME WE REWROTE OUR ZONING WAS IN THE EARLY 2000 AND SO DEVELOPERS WERE COMING IN AND TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THIS AND YES, WE DO HAVE A HOUSING CRISIS BUT THERE WAS NO CEILING AND THERE WAS NO PREDICTABILITY FOR RESIDENTS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT CEILING WAS. AND SO WE SPENT THE LAST FIVE YEARS BOTH IN EAST BOSTON AND IN CHARLESTOWN DEFINING WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE TOGETHER. WE WERE IN DEEP PARTNERSHIP WITH THE COMMUNITY THERE. I CAN'T EVEN TELL YOU HOW MANY COMMUNITY MEETINGS I WENT TO MULTIPLE PHONE CONVERSATIONS MEETING WITH THE MAYOR OR MEETING WITH ARTHUR JEMISON OF THE BPA TO TO SET THE STANDARD AND TO MAKE THESE RULES THAT DEVELOPERS AND BUILDERS WOULD HAVE TO ADHERE TO. AND SO WE JUST DID THAT WORK. WE SPENT MILLIONS OF CITY TAXPAYER DOLLARS TO DEFINE WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD SHOULD LOOK LIKE THROUGH PLANNING BOSTON AND PLAN CHARLESTOWN. AND SINCE PLAN IS BOSTON HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THE BOSTON THE BBVA ON MARCH 14TH 2020 FOR THE ZBA HAS APPROVED NONCOMPLIANT CASES IN TOTAL SO THEY'VE APPROVED EIGHT NON COMPLIANT PIECES OF A PLAN EAST BOSTON AND TO ME THAT JUST SHOWS THAT PLAN IS BOSTON MIGHT AS WELL HAVE BEEN A WASTE OF TIME WE CREATED THESE RULES FOR A REASON AND SO I'M CURIOUS TO UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT YOU HAVE LEARNED FROM PLAYING IS BOSTON WHETHER OR NOT YOU INTEND TO HOLD THE LINE AND MOVING FORWARD WHAT YOU WILL DO TO ENSURE THAT ANY PROPOSAL THAT'S IN FRONT OF THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS WILL BE COMPLIANT WITH THESE NEW RULES THAT WE SET TOGETHER.  THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. I THINK WHEN IT COMES TO CASES I TRY TO YOU KNOW, I AND I THINK THE BODY DOES TRY TO LOOK AT CASES INDIVIDUALLY. HOWEVER WE DO SEEK TO UNDERSTAND AND APPRECIATE THE FULLER CONTEXT AND SO IS BOSTON IS ONE OF THOSE PLANS THAT WE NEED TO LOOK MORE CLOSELY AT AND WE WILL MEET SO THAT THAT IS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE THAT THAT IS ACTUALLY A REQUEST I'VE MADE TO ENSURE THAT MEMBERS OF THE ZBA HAVE FULLER UNDERSTANDING OF THAT OF THE OUTCOME OF PUTTING ANY SPECIFIC QUESTION TO YOU SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU. HAVE YOU BEEN PLACED ON PLAY ANY SPOTS IN AT ALL BY ANY MEMBER OF ANY STAFF OF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT OR WITHIN ESD WHO OVERSEES YOUR UM YOUR ROLE HERE?  NOT IN GREAT DETAIL, NO. SO IS FOR THE TO FIND THAT WHAT DOES THAT MEAN NOT IN THAT IS THE THAT IS THE REQUEST THAT I'VE MADE TO TO ENSURE THAT ALL OF US ARE FULLY APPRIZED OF PLANNING BOSTON AND ITS DETAILS.  CAN YOU TELL ME WHEN ANY SORT OF BRIEFING HAD HAPPENED? WE'VE NOT BEEN BRIEFED AS EVERYBODY KNOW. OKAY. SO IT WAS IT'S BEEN ABOUT FIVE MONTHS SINCE PLANNING IS BOSTON WAS APPROVED BY THE ZONING COMMISSION AND YOU HAVE YET TO RECEIVE A BRIEFING ON WHAT THE STANDARDS ARE, WHAT THE FRONT YARD REAR YARD SIDE YARD SET BACKS ARE WITH THE PARKING MINIMUM MAXIMUMS ARE NOTHING IN TOTALITY. WE'VE HEARD THEM FROM CASE TO CASE. SO I WILL LOOK FOR MORE DETAILS. I WOULD CERTAINLY ENCOURAGE CONVERSATION WITH NOW PLANNING DEPARTMENT AS WELL. OKAY THROUGH THE CHAIR I'M JUST MAKING THAT FORMAL REQUEST THAT THE ZBA BE AT LEAST BRIEFED AND EDUCATED ON THE NEW RULES THAT WE WROTE TOGETHER THROUGH PLANNING BOSTON PLAN CHARLESTOWN I AM APPALLED THAT YOU ALL HAVE NOT GOTTEN A BRIEFING ON IT THAT IS UNACCEPTABLE AND IT SHOWS THE COMMUNITY NO LONGER TRUST THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS TO WORK WITH THEM. THEY JUST SPENT FIVE YEARS CREATING THE ZONING AND THERE'S ALREADY BEEN VARIANCES TO IT. SO I'M MAKING A FORMAL REQUEST OF THE ADMINISTRATION AND TO COMPLETE THAT BRIEFING JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ABIDING BY THE RULES THAT WE WROTE TOGETHER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNSELOR SHERRY I KNOW WE'VE WORKED TOGETHER VERY CLOSELY OVER THE YEARS IN MULTIPLE CAPACITIES AND I HAVE GOTTEN TO SEE YOU AT WORK IN THE COMMUNITY AND I'VE GOTTEN TO SEE YOU ON ZIVA, WHICH USUALLY IS ON MY STAFF TO YOU. BUT EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE I'M ON MYSELF AND I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR LEADERSHIP. I APPRECIATE THE TIME THAT YOU TAKE GIVEN EVERYTHING YOU KNOW, IT TAKES A LOT TO TO JUGGLE BEING A COMMUNITY LEADER, BEING A CIVIC LEADER.  SO I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR WORK AND AM REALLY DELIGHTED TO MOVE YOUR NOMINATION OR REAPPOINTMENT NOMINATION FORWARD AT THE AUGUST 28TH MEETING. SO LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO GET TO WORK TOGETHER AND AND GRATEFUL FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU PUT IN TO AND OF THE COUNTLESS HOURS AND WE'RE HOPING TODAY TO GET THROUGH A LOT OF THE ZIVA BECAUSE I KNOW THERE HAS BEEN AN ISSUE A JUST LIKE EVERYONE NEEDING TO SHOW UP TO EVERY SINGLE MEETING SO SO LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING IT TO A PLACE WHERE QUORUM IS NEVER AN ISSUE. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH CHAIR.  I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU BEING ON. THANK YOU. JOAN DUGAN OKAY, GREAT. SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE NEXT TO CHARMAINE TURNER WHO IS A 006 FOR ONE. I DO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I THINK THERE WAS A TYPO IN THE INITIAL LETTER THAT WE RECEIVED ABOUT JEREMIAH AND AS WE PUT IT, AS WE ALL MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S CORRECTED FOR THE RECORD OF THE COUNCIL MEETING.  SO CHARMAINE, DO YOU WANT TO GIVE AN OPENING STATEMENT?  SORRY . THANK YOU SO MUCH. MY NAME IS JAMEA TURNER AND I AM SO SORRY ABOUT THAT. IT'S OKAY.  I APPRECIATE YOU ALLOWING ME TO PARTICIPATE VIRTUALLY. I DO.  I WAS THERE IN PERSON. A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ME IS I WAS RAISED IN BOSTON. I GREW UP IN THE ADAMS VILLAGE NEIGHBORHOOD OF DORCHESTER,  ATTENDED LATIN ACADEMY THROUGHOUT MY TIME LIVING IN BOSTON I LIVED IN ROXBURY AND I NOW OWN A HOME IN HYDE PARK.  I AM A PROUD 13 YEAR MEMBER OF THE SHEET METAL WORKERS LOCAL 17 UNION AND I NOW REPRESENT THE MEMBERS OF THAT UNION BY BEING THE BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT REPRESENTATIVE FOR THEM. I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD ALL OVER THE CITY INCLUDING THE SEAPORT IN DOWNTOWN BOSTON IN THE WEST END AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SITTING ON THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS BECAUSE I THINK I BRING A REALLY UNIQUE PERSPECTIVE.  I FEEL AT THE INTERSECTION OF BEING A RESIDENT A LONG TIME RESIDENT OF BOSTON AND ALSO THE WORKERS OF THE CITY.  I UNDERSTAND THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY AND SO I WOULD SEEK TO REPRESENT THAT THAT VOICE ON THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS.  YEAH, I'M JUST REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO SERVING MY CITY AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME TODAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH TO TAMIA.  AND I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE AND READ INTO THE RECORD I KNOW THAT YOU ARE THE BUILDING TRADES EMPLOYERS ASSOCIATION'S NOMINATION TO THE ZBA AND I KNOW THAT A LOT OF OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS HAVE THAT SAME SETUP WHERE YOU KNOW EACH THEIR YOU KNOW, SPECIFIC NOMINATIONS FOR SPECIFIC TYPES OF PEOPLE BUT I THINK IS VOICE ON THE ZIVA IS AN IMPORTANT ONE AND GRATEFUL THAT YOU ARE WILLING TO STEP UP AND SERVE HAVING REVIEWED THE INFORMATION THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED THROUGH BOTH YOUR RESUME AND THE MAYOR'S LETTER. I APPRECIATE HOW EXPERIENCED YOU ARE. I APPRECIATE YOUR BACKGROUND AND THE FACT THAT YOU'VE WORKED ON PROJECTS SOME IN MY DISTRICT SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU FOR HELPING SHAPE THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT OF OUR CITY. WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT AND THANK YOU FOR BEING WILLING TO STEP UP AND SERVE. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE AND THEN COUNCILOR COLLETTE AS A POTTER DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?  I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SHARE THAT THIS WOULD BE A MONUMENTAL AND HISTORIC APPOINTMENT ESPECIALLY OVER THE LAST DECADE. THE BUILDING TRADES THE BUILDING TRADE UNIONS HAVE BEEN WORKING VERY HARD TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE A MORE DIVERSE MEMBERSHIP BODY AND NOW SOME OF US ARE STEPPING UP ITS LEADERSHIP POSITIONS. SO THIS JUST SPEAKS TO HOW MUCH FURTHER WE CAN GO ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE'S REPRESENTATION TO SHOW HOW DIFFERENT DIVERSITY OF PEOPLE AND AND THE UNION CAN STEP UP AND USE THEIR VOICE.  AND SO I ALSO THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TODAY . I CARRY THAT WITH ME WHEREVER I GO. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO ME THAT MORE. MORE PEOPLE OF COLOR, MORE WOMEN ARE ABLE TO HAVE A VOICE IN THE CITY. AND SO THAT'S THE FINAL THING I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH TO ME . I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR LEADERSHIP AND THANK YOU FOR BEING WILLING TO STEP FORWARD. I KNOW I'VE SEEN YOU AT SOME RALLIES AND I'VE SEEN YOU IN ACTION AND I KNOW IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT THAT WE HAVE FOLKS STEPPING UP WHO ARE REALLY DOING THAT WORK AND HAVE BEEN A PART OF A LOT OF CONVERSATION.  SO THANK YOU FOR BEING THAT LEADER AND THANK YOU FOR BEING WILLING TO BE THAT PERSON WHO'S LIKE BREAKING THAT BARRIER.  WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT. AND COUNCILOR CLAUDIA ZAPATA.  THANK YOU, CHAIR. HELLO TO MY FELLOW JABBERWOCKY . SHOUT OUT TO MARTIN KAPLOW. THANK YOU FOR JOINING MEJIA. THIS IS YOUR GETTING APPOINTED FOR THE FIRST TIME. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS TRUE, YES. OKAY, GREAT. SO I'VE I'VE ALREADY ASKED SHERRY QUESTIONS AS IT RELATES TO VARIANCES AND HARDSHIP STANDARDS. SO IT MAY SEEM LIKE I'M ASKING YOU THIS QUESTION OR NOT HER BUT I HAD ASKED HER THIS QUESTION IN 2022 SO A LOT HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT AND PLEASE UNDERSTAND A LOT OF RESPECT FOR YOU AND YOUR ROLE IN THE BUILDING TRADES. THIS IS OUR LEVER TO ASK THESE QUESTIONS WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER OPPORTUNITY TO ASK. I MEAN WE CAN ONE ON ONE CONVERSATIONS BUT I REALLY HAVE TO DO MY DUE DILIGENCE AS A CITY COUNCILOR IN RESPECT FOR MY COMMUNITY WHICH THEY ASKED ME THESE QUESTIONS EVERY SINGLE TIME I ASK HIM ABOUT THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS. SO PLEASE JUST UNDERSTAND THAT . BUT THERE'S BEEN A LOT THAT'S BEEN SAID ABOUT VARYING STANDARDS IN HARDSHIP WHEN IS IT UNNECESSARY?  THE ZONING CODE SHOULD NEVER BE A MAJOR BURDEN ON SMALLER PROPERTY OWNERS AND SO THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET A REFUSAL LETTER THROUGH IS DE ASK FOR A VARIANCE IS IS IMPORTANT FOR THOSE FOLKS AND I NEVER WANT TO BURDEN SMALL PROPERTY OWNERS AGAIN. ON THE OTHER HAND DEVELOPERS ARE THERE TO MAKE MONEY THAT IS THEIR BOTTOM LINE AND SO MANY OF THEM ARE COMING IN AS MAJOR PLAYERS WITHIN THE CITY. THEY HAVE SIGNIFICANT ACCESS TO CAPITAL AND WEALTH AND CAN COMPLETE THEIR PROJECTS AND SO WHEN THEY'RE COMING THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS THEY'RE ASKING FOR A VARIANCE BECAUSE OF A HARDSHIP AND JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT I PUT IT ON RECORD IN ORDER TO OBTAIN A VARIANCE AND GET A HARDSHIP THE APPLICANT MUST SHOW ALL OF THE FOLLOWING NUMBER ONE UNNECESSARY HARDSHIP WOULD RESULT FROM THE STRICT APPLICATION OF THIS ORDINANCE.  NUMBER TWO THE HARDSHIP RESULTS FROM CONDITIONS THAT ARE PARTICULAR PECULIAR TO THE PROPERTY. AND NUMBER THREE THE HARDSHIP IS NOT A SELF CREATED HARDSHIP. AND SO MY MAIN QUESTION GIVEN ALL OF THIS IS DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THE FINANCIAL HARDSHIP OF A DEVELOPER MEETS THE STANDARD FOR THAT HARDSHIP BECAUSE YOU WILL BE DOLING OUT THESE VARIANCES? YES, I THINK THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT WILL COME INTO PLAY AND I WAS REALLY HAPPY TO HEAR ABOUT THE WORK THAT WAS BEING DONE IN BOSTON SO I LOOK FORWARD TO LEARNING MORE ABOUT THAT AT THOSE TYPES OF COMMITTEES AND OUTLINES GUIDELINES FOR HOW THINGS SHOULD BE BUILT AND THE DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND THE CITY.  IF IT WERE JUST DOWN TO A FINANCIAL HARDSHIP AND IT WAS NOT GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY, I WOULD PROBABLY LEAN AGAINST THAT. I MEAN MY I LIVE I LIVE IN THE CITY OF BOSTON SO I UNDERSTAND HOW THESE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS CAN IMPACT RESIDENTS AND SO I WOULD BE VERY CAREFUL TO JUST USE FINANCES AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD.  I THINK THAT THERE ARE PROBABLY A LOT OF DIFFERENT FACTORS IN THAT DECISION.  THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT ANSWER AND I WOULD I GUESS I WANT TO KNOW FROM YOU TOO HOW HAVE YOU CENTERED COMMUNITY VOICE HOW CAN WE TRUST THAT YOU WHEN YOU HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY YOU WILL LISTEN TO THEM AND APPLY NOT ONLY YOUR PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE BUT THEIR EXPERIENCE THEIR LIVED EXPERIENCE AS RESIDENTS OF THAT COMMUNITY? HAVE YOU ALREADY DONE THAT IN YOUR PROFESSIONAL CAREER AND HOW CAN WE TRUST YOU TO MAKE THESE THOUGHTFUL INTENTIONAL DECISIONS OR THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. THE BEST EXAMPLE I HAVE WAS ABOUT A YEAR AGO THERE WAS A DEVELOPER I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE DEVELOPER RIGHT NOW THAT WAS TRYING TO BUILD ON SOME ON AN URBAN WILD AND HYDE PARK AND THAT WAS A HUGE CONCERN FOR THE COMMUNITY. IT WOULD HAVE HAD A HUGE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT ESPECIALLY GIVEN THAT HYDE PARK DOESN'T HAVE VERY MUCH GREEN SPACE AND THE DEVELOPER JUST WASN'T COMMITTED TO BEING ETHICAL TO THE RESIDENTS OR WORKERS FOR THAT PROJECT. AND I SPOKE OUT VERY BOLDLY AGAINST IT AND THERE WAS A SIMILAR PROJECT I BELIEVE HAPPENING IN EAST BOSTON LAST YEAR THAT I SPOKE AGAINST AS WELL THAT WAS ALONG WITH THE INPUT FROM THE IAG GROUPS IN THE AREA AND THE WORKERS THAT I REPRESENT.  AND SO THAT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE OF HOW I'VE BEEN ABLE TO LIKE LISTEN TO PEOPLE AND ALSO USE MY PLATFORM TO TO MAKE SURE THAT BENEFICIAL THINGS ARE HAPPENING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU. AND JUST ONE LAST QUESTION, CHAIR. I REFERENCED THIS WITH WITH SHERRY.  WE TALKED ABOUT THE REZONING IN EAST BOSTON AND CHARLESTOWN WHICH IS BRAND NEW 2024 FIVE MONTHS AGO. IF THERE ARE IF THERE IS A PROJECT THAT IS COMING TO YOU THAT IS NOT COMPLIANT WITH THE NEW RULES THAT WE BROUGHT TOGETHER, WILL YOU HOLD THE LINE AND VOTE AGAINST IT?  YES. LIKE I SAID BEFORE, I LOOK FORWARD TO DIGGING INTO THOSE RULES BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT IT WAS PUT TOGETHER BY THE COMMUNITY AND SO WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT I AM BEING FAIR TO THE COMMUNITY VOICE I WILL HOLD THE LINE. THANK YOU. FUTURE THANK YOU SO MUCH. I REALLY APPRECIATE MY YOUR LEADERSHIP AND LOOK FORWARD TO MOVING YOUR NOMINATION FORWARD AT THE AUGUST 28TH COUNCIL MEETING.  SO THAT'S WHEN YOU'LL GET AN UPDATE ON YOUR APPROVAL. BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SHOWING UP. I REALLY APPRECIATE IT AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO TO SEEING YOU IN ACTION AT THE ZBA. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.  HAVE A GREAT DAY, EVERYBODY. THANK YOU. SO WE HAVE TWO FOLKS WHO HAVE COME IN PERSON SO I'M GOING TO SHIFT TO IN PERSON FIRST JANEY MCNEIL WHO IS DOCKET 1179, THE ZONING COMMISSION.  SO JANEY, YOU HAVE UP TO 2 MINUTES TO JUST TALK ABOUT WHY THIS IS IMPORTANT TO YOU AND WHY YOU WANT TO SERVE. THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE.  MY NAME IS JANEY MCNEIL. I'M THE GENERAL AGENT FOR THE HOSPITALITY WORKERS UNION LOCAL 26 BEEN WITH THE UNION FOR ABOUT 20 YEARS. YOU KNOW YOU MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE KNOW ME AS AN ADVOCATE BUT I. I DO BELIEVE I HAVE A PRETTY GOOD TRACK RECORD OF CREATING CONSENSUS BRINGING PEOPLE TOGETHER, FINDING COMMON COMMON GROUND.  YOU KNOW I GREW UP IN A HOUSEHOLD MY MY MOTHER WAS A WAS A UNION NURSE. MY FATHER WAS A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER SITTING AT THE DINNER TABLE. I LISTENED AND LEARNED AND HEARD THEM ALWAYS FINDING A WAY TO TO MEET IN THE MIDDLE AND FIND THAT COMMON GROUND AND ON THE SAME TOKEN, YOU KNOW, MY FATHER WORKED EVERY DAY OF HIS LIFE. YOU KNOW, HE'S PROUD VETERAN AND HE HE ALWAYS FOUND TIME TO GIVE BACK TO HIS COMMUNITY. SO YOU KNOW, HE WOULD ALWAYS TELL ME TO THOSE WHO I GOT TO THINK ABOUT IT NOW TO WHOM MUCH IS GIVEN, MUCH IS OWED AND I THINK ABOUT THAT OFTEN MUCH IS REQUIRED.  THANK YOU. THANK YOU.  HE MADE A BUNCH OF IT BUT I KNOW EVERYTHING I HAVE TO MY FAMILY, TO MY UNION AND TO THE CITY AND IT MEANS A GREAT DEAL TO ME TO BE ABLE TO GIVE BACK. WHEN I WALK AROUND THE CITY IT'S LIKE A PHOTO ALBUM, YOU KNOW, I THINK BACK TO ALL THE MEMORIES GROWING UP HERE AND IT'S SOMETHING I WANT TO PRESERVE, YOU KNOW THOSE THOSE MEMORIES BUT I ALSO WANT TO PRESERVE THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT MY MOTHER'S FAMILY AND MY FATHER'S FAMILY HAD COMING TO THIS CITY.  AND YOU KNOW, THAT DOES MEAN CREATING GOOD JOBS AND CREATING GOOD HOUSING AND SO YEAH,  THAT'S THAT'S MY INTEREST IN THE ROLE AND I'M REALLY HONORED TO BE HERE AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE AND I'M SORRY TO GIVE YOU A REALLY HARD BALL QUESTION BUT I'M IN SUPPORT OF A ZONING AMENDMENT TO THE BOSTON TRIANGLE TO MAKE RESIDENTIAL AND ALLOWED USE IF THAT CAME BEFORE THE ZONING COMMISSION WOULD YOU VOTE IN FAVOR OF IT? I WOULD.  I'M VERY HAPPY NOW IT'S A CONDITIONAL USE JUST FOR ANYONE ELSE. YEAH, I'M I'M VERY CONCERNED THAT THE OFFICE TO HOUSING WHICH IS I THINK WHAT THE CITY NEEDS RIGHT NOW MORE THAN ANYTHING IS GOING TO TURN INTO OFFICE TO HOTEL WHICH IN MY OPINION ISN'T VERY GOOD ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT VERY FEW JOBS.  IT REALLY DOESN'T MEET THE MOMENT WE NEED HOUSING AS A REPRESENTATIVE THAT TALKS TO MANY, MANY WORKERS, SERVICE WORKERS AND HOSPITALITY WORKERS HERE IN THE CITY. WE NEED WE NEED HOUSING AND GIVEN THE CITY AND AND THIS BODY HAS BENT OVER BACKWARDS TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO CREATE OFFICE TO HOUSING IT IT IS MIND BLOWING TO ME THAT WE WOULD BE DOING OFFICE TO HOTEL. IT'S NOT GOOD ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND IT DOESN'T MEET THE NEEDS OF THE CITY RIGHT NOW . SO I WOULD BE AGAINST THAT. I MEAN I WOULD BE FOR ADDING HOUSING TO A FRENCH TRIANGLE. I'M SORRY . OH, THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER ZONING QUESTIONS THAT I COULD ASK YOU THINGS THAT I SUPPORT, THINGS THAT I DON'T SUPPORT AND CHANGES THAT NEED TO BE MADE.  BUT I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE THAT THERE IS WORK TO BE DONE AND THERE ARE THINGS TO DIG INTO AND AND IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT ROLE THAT YOU'RE UP FOR. BUT I COULDN'T THINK OF SOMEONE WHO IS MORE QUALIFIED TO DO THAT JOB AND IT WAS A BRIGHT SPOT WHEN I SAW YOUR NAME COME THROUGH THE COUNCIL AGENDA I WAS LIKE THIS IS A GREAT PICK AND IT'S NICE WHEN THESE NAMES ARE FAMILIAR AND THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN DOING THE WORK FOR YEARS AND YEARS EVEN BEFORE I WAS HERE.  SO WHILE I DON'T GET TO HAVE ALL THE MEMORIES OF WALKING AROUND THE CITY AS A KID I WISH I HAD LIVED HERE AS A KID I REALLY APPRECIATE THE PERSPECTIVE THAT YOU UNIQUELY BRING TO THIS AND I'M REALLY GRATEFUL SO GRATEFUL THAT YOU'VE BEEN PUT FORWARD AND EXCITED TO ON AUGUST 28 TO PUT TO CALL THIS TO A VOTE AND BECAUSE I THINK AMONG MY COLLEAGUES YOU ARE WELL REGARDED AND AND AND THEY WILL AGREE WITH ME I'M SURE.  SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT JANEY AND COUNCILOR CLETA THANK YOU. CHAIR HI, JANEY. GOOD TO SEE YOU. GOOD TO SEE I WILL BE VOTING IN FAVOR OF YOUR APPOINTMENT TO THE ZONING COMMISSION.  I DO. I'LL JUST ECHO EVERYTHING THAT COUNCILOR DURKAN HAS SAID.  ZONING IS REALLY A IT IMPACTS ALL FACETS OF PEOPLE'S LIVES AND I THINK RECENTLY PEOPLE HAVE STARTED TO UNDERSTAND AND EDUCATE THEMSELVES ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT ANY SORT OF ZONING REFORM IS AND HOW IT WILL IMPACT THEIR THEIR THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE.  AND SO I KNOW THAT YOU KNOW THAT I DON'T HAVE TO SELL YOU ON THAT. I DON'T THINK YOU NEED TO SELL ME ON THAT. I THINK FOR THE PUBLIC JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR, HOW HOW DO YOU SEE YOUR ROLE ON THE ZONING COMMISSION MOVING FORWARD, ESPECIALLY WITH INITIATIVES LIKE SQUARES AND STREETS? AND I GUESS IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU CAN SPECIFICALLY TALK ABOUT IN TERMS OF LIKE WHAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE THE CITY DOING WITH OUR ZONING CODE TO MAKE TO MAKE IT MORE INCLUSIVE AND EQUITABLE FOR EVERYBODY THAT LIVES HERE?  I'M A THIS MIGHT BE CONTROVERSIAL I'M I'M ACTUALLY A BIG FAN OF SQUARES AND STREETS. MY NEIGHBORHOOD WAS THE FIRST TO GO ROSLINDALE AND CLEARY SQUARE DEPENDING ON MY PARK. I LIVE IN HYDE PARK. IF YOU'RE IN ROSEDALE I LIVE IN ROSEDALE.  WE HAD A NUMBER OF MEETINGS I WAS I FEEL LIKE INUNDATED WHERE THERE IS A BUS SHELTER AND IN TERMS OF THE OUTREACH IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD I ALSO YOU KNOW, AS A AS A RESIDENT REACHED OUT TO THE BPA ON A COUPLE I DON'T KNOW THE USAGE TERMS AND THEY LISTENED AND YOU KNOW I I WAS REALLY I WAS I WAS REALLY IMPRESSED WITH THE AMOUNT OF FEEDBACK I GOT. YOU KNOW, I DO FEEL LIKE AT THE END OF THE DAY THE THE THE BUCKETS WE'RE CREATING NOW THE PROOF IS GOING TO BE YOU KNOW, WHERE THOSE BUCKETS LAY. I THINK IT'S YOU KNOW LIKE DOES AS FIVE MAKES SENSE FOR MAVERICK SQUARE YOU KNOW LIKE MAYBE IT DOES MAYBE IT DOESN'T. I HAVE A THERE'S A HOME YOU KNOW I KNOW I'M NOT GOING ON THE ZBA BUT THERE'S A HOME ON A STREET NEARBY MY HOUSE AND IT'S A IT GOT A VARIANCE AND IT'S IT LOOKS LIKE A IT LOOKS LIKE A HILTON GARDEN INN ON A ON A YOU KNOW WE'RE WE'RE A STREET OF CAPES AND I WOULDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT. MY MY FATHER GREW UP ON THE STREET NEXT STREET OVER AND A SPLIT HOUSE BUT IT'S A ONE FAMILY YOU CAN PUT FOUR FAMILIES IN THIS HOUSE AND IT'S ONE FAMILY. IT'S ONE CONTRACTOR. I WON'T NAME THE ADDRESS BUT THAT'S ME THROUGH THE USAGE AND THROUGH THE BUCKETS THAT ARE BEING CREATED NOW I THINK THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE CAN WEED OUT AND THAT'S WHY YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'S IT'S HARD RIGHT, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE DEFINING WHAT THE BUCKETS ARE NOW THE THE MORE IMPORTANT ROLE IS GOING TO BE WHERE THOSE BUCKETS GO. AND SO THAT'S WHERE I THINK THE RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD.  THANK YOU FOR THAT ANSWER AND JUST KNOW THAT WHEN WE COME IN FRONT OF THE ZONING COMMISSION AND WE PROVIDE AN OPINION IT'S A CULMINATION OF MONTHS SOMETIMES YEARS OF WORK ON BEHALF OF OUR OFFICE, ON BEHALF OF THE COUNCILORS. AND SO JUST PLEASE WHEN WE TAKE THE TIME TO BE THERE AND ESPECIALLY AS IT RELATES TO A MASTER PLAN OR ZONING REFORM OR RAISING STREETS, PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT HAPPEN BEHIND THE SCENES AND I KNOW THAT YOU WILL BE BRIEFED HOPEFULLY ON ON A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING. YOU'RE ALREADY IN IT. YOU WORK ON THIS PROFESSIONALLY BUT JUST TO REALLY CONSIDER WHERE WE'RE COMING FROM AND TO WORK WITH US TO MEETING TO MEETING IN THE MIDDLE IF IT REQUIRES OF US IF THERE'S COMPROMISE NECESSARY, IF WE'RE ASKING FOR THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE THE PULSE ON THE NEIGHBORHOODS WE WORK WITH THE RESIDENTS AND WE ARE ALSO UNDERSTANDING HOW THE BUCKETS ARE BEING BUILT OR LIKE WHERE THE PUZZLE PIECES ARE COMING TOGETHER AS IT RELATES TO RESIDENTIAL ZONING OR COMMERCIAL OR THE USES OR WHATEVER AND I JUST ASK THAT WE HAVE THIS CONTINUED PARTNERSHIP AND YOU SERIOUSLY CONSIDER IT WHEN WE COME UP TO THE ZONING COMMISSION I KNOW THAT I GO UP TO THE ZONING COMMISSION QUITE A BIT. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT OTHERS BUT JUST LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU IN THAT CAPACITY AND I LOOK FORWARD TO CONFIRMING YOUR APPOINTMENT ON AUGUST THREE. THANK YOU COUNCILOR . THANK YOU SO MUCH COUNCILOR AND I THINK I'M NOT GOING TO QUOTE WHO SAID THIS BECAUSE IT'S A COMMUNITY LEADER BUT I THINK I'M GOING TO QUOTE THEM A LITTLE BIT WRONG SO I DON'T WANT TO BUT THEY DESCRIBE ZONING AS THE GATE KEEPING OF COMMUNITIES.  IT CAN MAKE A COMMUNITY RICHER, CAN CAN MAKE A COMMUNITY POORER ,IT CAN CAN MAKE A COMMUNITY VIBRANT OR IT CAN MAKE A COMMUNITY DULL.  AND SO IT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT ROLE THAT THAT YOU'RE STEPPING INTO AND I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR LEADERSHIP BUT WHILE WE LOOK FORWARD TO SUPPORTING YOUR CONFERENCE SESSION HOPEFULLY ON THE AUGUST 28TH MEETING SO ON DOCKET OH 1179 YOU ARE RELIEVED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.  DOCKET OH 636 PAUL RABER OFFENDER SORRY FOR MISPRONOUNCING THAT THE SECOND OFFENDERS OF IT I'M AN ORPHAN HOWEVER. OKAY SORRY . THANK YOU. DO YOU WANT TO DO YOU WANT TO GIVE AN OPENING STATEMENT JUST ABOUT YOUR INTEREST IN THE FORT POINT CHANNEL LANDMARK DISTRICT COMMISSION? YES. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME AND I MOVED TO FORT POINT IN 2011 AND I LIVE AT MIDWAY ARTS STUDIOS WITH MY WIFE AND OUR TWO CHILDREN AND THE COMMUNITY IS A COMMUNITY THAT IS FULL OF CREATIVITY AND IDEAS AND OVER THE LAST DECADE MANY OF US HAVE BECOME INVOLVED IN THE LANDMARKS COMMISSION REALLY AS ATTENDEES OF THE MEETINGS AND AND I THINK MY INTEREST PRINCIPALLY IN THE COMMISSION IS IN MAINTAINING THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE THAT ARE THEY'RE VERY UNIQUE. THEY WERE UBIQUITOUS AT THE TIME THEY WERE BUILT BUT NOW THEY'RE REALLY SOMETHING THAT MAKES THE NEIGHBORHOOD QUITE UNUSUAL AND QUITE SPECIAL. BUT THERE'S ALSO NEW IDEAS ABOUT THE WAY THAT THE THE NEIGHBORHOOD CAN FEEL IN THE COMING YEARS AND IN THE FUTURE AND FINDING WAYS TO BALANCE THE WAY IN WHICH DEVELOPMENT WILL OCCUR IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE EXISTING CULTURAL FABRIC OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS SOMETHING THAT THAT I THINK IS A QUITE QUITE AN EXCITING CHALLENGE AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR FOR STEPPING FORWARD TO LEAD I THINK IN THE FOUR POINT CHANNEL AND OBVIOUSLY I DON'T REPRESENT THE FOUR POINT CHANNEL BUT THERE THIS IS SOMETHING COUNCILOR CLAUDIA ZAPATA HAS WORKED A LOT ON AS THE ENVIRONMENT AND THE WATERFRONT. JUST CURIOUS IF YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON WHAT THE CITY COULD BE DOING BETTER TO TO MEET THOSE POTENTIAL ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS AND AND WHAT YOU SEE THE DISTRICT COMMISSION'S ROLE IN THAT THE CHALLENGE FOR A LOT OF THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE THE OLD BOSS WHARF COMPANY BUILDINGS IS PRIMARILY IN THE GROUNDWATER AND THE GROUNDWATER INFILTRATION AND MAKING SURE THAT THOSE BUILDINGS CAN CONNECT AND I AM A TRUSTEE OF THAT. SO YOU ARE SO THAT WORK IS IS ONGOING AND THERE ARE SOME FUNDS AVAILABLE TO THE COMMUNITY PRESERVATION ACT THAT CAN HELP TO PROVIDE RESOURCES I THINK PARTICULARLY FOR A LOT OF THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE OWNED BY NONPROFITS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAVING THOSE RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO BE ABLE TO PRESERVE THE BUILDINGS AND OF COURSE THE CHARACTER OF THOSE BUILDINGS CONCURRENTLY IS GOING TO BE IT'S GOING TO BE VITAL IN THE COMING DECADES AS THE CITY CONFRONTS CLIMATE CHANGE PARTICULARLY GIVEN THE PROXIMITY TO THE WATERFRONT. AND WHAT DO YOU THINK IS SPECIAL ABOUT OTHER THAN WHAT YOU'VE ALREADY SAID ABOUT THE FOUR POINT AREA?  WELL, I THINK WHAT'S WONDERFUL ABOUT FOUR POINT IS THAT IT IS IS FIRST OF ALL FOR FOUR DECADES OR MORE IT'S BEEN THE HOME TO TWO ARTISTS FROM FROM ALL OVER THE CITY WHO HAVE LIVED THERE AND WORK THERE AND THAT'S THAT'S BEEN FUNDAMENTAL TO TO THE WAY THAT IT'S GROWN AND THE WAY THAT IT'S DEVELOPED BUT ALSO TO ITS UNIQUENESS EVEN RELATIVE TO SEA PORT AND THE OTHER AREAS THAT ARE DIRECTLY SURROUNDING IT GIVES IT A VERY UNIQUE CHARACTER THAT IS IN SOME WAYS SEPARATE AND APART FROM THE BUILDINGS. BUT A LOT OF THAT GREW OUT OF THE UTILITY THAT THE BUILDINGS OFFERED IN THE FORM OF HIGH CEILINGS AND LARGE OPEN FLOOR PLATES AND SO FOR ME IT FEELS LIKE HOW CAN WE CARRY THAT EVOLUTION FORWARD INTO INTO THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, COMING YEARS AS THE THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD BEGINS TO BE PUT UNDER PRESSURE BY DEVELOPMENT. BUT I THINK THAT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SOMETHING QUITE SPECIAL TO EMERGE. SO IT'S REALLY INTERESTING HAVING BEEN IN SOME OF THOSE FOUR POINT LOFTS AND ALSO MICRO UNITS FROM LOFT TO MICRO UNIT THERE'S A LOT OF YOU KNOW, DIVERSITY AND THE TYPES OF HOUSING THAT IS AVAILABLE AND IN SUCH A SMALL AREA BUT SUCH A UNIQUE AREA. AND SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR STEPPING FORWARD TO TO BE PART OF THIS. WE'RE SO EXCITED TO HAVE YOU AND LOOK FORWARD TO TO PUTTING YOUR NOMINATION FORWARD AT THE AUGUST 28TH MEETING. COUNCILOR CLETA, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?  NO. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. AND CAN YOU SAY YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD RIVER I'M FROM OUR RIVER AND OUR OKAY, GOT IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. THANKS FOR ALL OF YOUR WORK ON BEHALF OF CITY TO OF COURSE. THANK YOU SO MUCH.  AND JUST IN THAT KIND OF TIME 0698 KEVIN READY IS HERE. YOU CAN SIT HERE AS WELL.  YEAH.  SO KEVIN , DO YOU WANT TO SAY WHY YOU'RE INTERESTED IN THE ROLE? SURE. I HAVE LIVED IN THE SOUTH END ACTUALLY ON WALTHAM STREET FOR ABOUT 15 YEARS. I'VE GROWN TO LOVE IT. I PLAN TO SPEND THE NEXT 15 YEARS THERE. I ENJOY THE DIVERSITY OF THE SOUTH END. I WAS JUST AT FESTIVAL MIDTOWN 6 TO 1 TWO WEEKENDS AGO I JUST SAW A SIGN ON UNION PARK THAT THE SAME THAT THE GREEK FESTIVAL WAS HAPPENING IN A FEW WEEKS SO A HUGE PROPONENT OF THE SOUTH END AND INTERESTED IN DOING MY PART TO PROTECT THE HISTORY OF IT.  YOU LIVE IN SUCH A GREAT LOCATION. I HAVE BEEN INSIDE YOUR BUILDING AND SOMEONE ELSE'S UNIT AND I KNOW IT'S A REALLY BEAUTIFUL AREA THAT YOU LIVE IN AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR STEPPING FORWARD. I DID WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT YOU ACTUALLY WERE PUT ON THE GREEN SHEETS BEFORE I WAS EVEN THE CHAIR OF THIS COMMITTEE AND SOMEHOW IT GOT IT FELL OFF AND THEN YOU'RE BACK ON. SO I REALLY WANT TO I APPRECIATE YOU WAITING ALL THE TIME THAT YOU WAITED TO BE CONFIRMED TO THIS COMMISSION AND I THINK IT JUST SHOWS YOU'RE THE FACT THAT YOU'RE STILL INTERESTED SHOWS YOUR DEDICATION TO THE ROLE.  CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE MORE ABOUT WHY YOU'RE EXCITED TO DO TO SERVE IN THIS PARTICULAR ROLE? I'VE COMMUNICATED WITH WITH THE MAYOR'S STAFF THAT I'VE WANTED TO GET MORE INVOLVED. GENERALLY SPEAKING AND THEY ASKED ME TO TAKE A LOOK AT OR ADVICE ME TO TAKE A LOOK AT SOME OF THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WERE AVAILABLE AND ONE OF THEM THAT WAS I THINK THE ONLY THE ONLY ONE THAT I SENT FORWARD WAS THE SOUTHEND LANDMARKS COMMISSION.  I HAVE WATCHED OR LISTENED TO MANY OF THE MEETINGS AND AS YOU'VE MENTIONED SINCE I WAS PUT FORWARD UNDER A PREVIOUS COUNCIL AND HAVE FOLLOWED IT AND I'M A LITTLE BIT OF LIKE A MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT NERD SO IT'S BEEN INTERESTING TO WATCH THE MEETINGS AND LEARN ABOUT THE PROCESS AND I'M EXCITED TO DO THAT. I'M EXCITED TO WORK WITH IF APPROVED WORK WITH THE SITTING COMMISSIONERS, LEARN FROM THEM, LEARN FROM CITY STAFF ABOUT THE PROCESS AND AND MOVING THINGS FORWARD.  THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR INTEREST. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR STEPPING FORWARD. I THINK IT MEANS A LOT WHEN PEOPLE THAT YOU KNOW I THINK OF OF MYSELF I WAS A REGULAR PERSON WHO HAD ATTENDED A LOT OF MEETINGS AND HAD YOU KNOW I HAD ATTENDED ONE ABUTTERS MEETING BEFORE I WAS A CITY COUNCILOR AND IT MEANS A LOT WHEN PEOPLE WHO CARE ABOUT THEIR COMMUNITIES AND AREN'T NECESSARILY ATTACHED FROM IN A WORK CAPACITY BUT THEY'RE ATTACHED IN LIKE A LOVE FOR THE COMMUNITY TYPE OF WAY AND I THINK THAT PERSPECTIVE IS REALLY NEEDED ON A LOT OF THESE COMMISSIONS. SO I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR LEADERSHIP AND YOU FOR STEPPING FORWARD.  COUNCILOR CLETA, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AS OF THE TIME JUST A COMMENT. HI KEVIN . IT'S SO GOOD TO SEE YOU. WE KNOW EACH OTHER FROM A FORMER LIFE AND SO REALLY EXCITED TO SEE YOU HERE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMITMENT TO THE CITY.  IT IS IMPORTANT TO HAVE A PERSPECTIVE OF FOLKS WHO UNDERSTAND BUREAUCRACY AND THEN ALSO SOME OF THE POLITICAL ASPECT OF IT TOO AND UNDERSTANDING WHY YOU WERE THERE TO DO A JOB AND HOW TO INFLUENCE THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT AND ANY COMMUNITY.  SO THE SOUTH END IS LUCKY TO HAVE YOU WISH WE HAD YOU IN EAST BOSTON AND ANGEL SOME OF THE NORTH END BUT SOUTH AND LAMAR SUBMISSIONS VERY LUCKY TO HAVE YOU AND JUST CONGRATULATIONS AND I LOOK FORWARD TO VOTING YES ON YOUR APPOINTMENT THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.  THANK YOU SO MUCH. YOU ARE RELIEVED AND REALLY GRATEFUL THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO ATTEND IN PERSON. THANK YOU.  IS THERE ANYONE ELSE ONLINE?  OKAY SO I'M GOING TO READ ONE LETTER INTO THE RECORD FROM ANGELA WARD HYATT.  DEAR JO I AM WRITING TO EXPRESS MY INTEREST IN THE BOSTON LANDMARKS COMMISSION, HIGHLAND PARK ARCHITECTURAL CONSERVATION DISTRICT COMMISSION. I MOVED TO WASHINGTON PARK NEIGHBORHOOD OF ROXBURY SIX YEARS AGO. I FELL IN LOVE WITH MY LITTLE HISTORIC HOUSE. I'M HOPING I'D I'D LIKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL BUT WAS NOT PREPARED FOR MY GOOD FORTUNE. ROXBURY IS TRULY A SPECIAL PLACE NOT JUST FOR ITS ARCHITECTURE BUT FOR ITS FIRST CULTURAL LEGACY AS WELL.  IT'S A REAL NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE PEOPLE LOOK OUT FOR ONE ANOTHER. I FEEL CONNECTED TO IT ALREADY NOW THAT I'M SETTLING INTO MY ROLE ON THE BOSTON LANDMARKS COMMISSION, I LIKE TO BRING WHAT I'M LEARNING HERE AS WELL AS MY 30 YEARS OF ARCHITECTURAL EXPERIENCE CLOSER TO HOME.  IF APPOINTED I WILL BRING MY DESIGN SENSIBILITIES TO THE HPR AC DC TO ENSURE THE STANDARDS AND CRITERIA ARE BEING FOLLOWED . I REGRET THAT I AM UNABLE TO ATTEND THE BOSTON CITY COUNCIL'S COMMITTEE ON PLANNING DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION ON 812 AS I'LL BE TRAVELING OUT OF STATE ALL WEEK OVER TO MY ROSEMARY FOR THE COMMITTEE'S INFORMATION. THANK YOU.  THANKS IN ADVANCE FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. SINCERELY ANGELA WARD HYATT.  I AM PLANNING TO MOVE THIS ONE FORWARD 0640 BECAUSE ANGELA ACTUALLY ATTENDED OUR LAST PLANNING COMMITTEE PLANNING DEVELOPMENT AND TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE HEARING LESS THAN SIX MONTHS AGO TO GO BEFORE THE LANDMARKS COMMISSION AND SHE WAS HIGHLY QUALIFIED FOR THAT AND IS HIGHLY QUALIFIED FOR THE HIGHLAND PARK ARCHITECTURAL CONSERVATION DISTRICT COMMISSION. BUT I DID WANT TO GIVE A CHANCE TO GO JO CORNISH TO SPEAK TO HER EXPERIENCE.  YES. THANK YOU. WE'RE SO DELIGHTED TO HAVE ANGELA WARD HERE AS A MEMBER OF THE BOSTON LANDMARKS COMMISSION.  SHE REPRESENTS THE BOSTON SOCIETY OF ARCHITECTS.  SHE'S AN ARCHITECT AND SHE ALSO LIVES IN ROXBURY, NOT IN THE HIGHLAND PARK DISTRICT BUT VERY CLOSE TO THE HIGHLAND PARK DISTRICT.  SO WE'RE EXCITED TO HAVE HER EXPERIENCE AS AN ARCHITECT AND ALSO AS A LOCAL RESIDENT. THANK YOU SO MUCH JO AND I DID WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT.  OH AND SO I'M EXCITED TO MOVE 0640 ANGELA WARD HYATT FORWARD TO THE AUGUST 28TH COUNCIL MEETING.  I DID WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I DON'T SEE 0107 PETER SANBORN HERE FROM THE BEING NOMINATED FOR THE SOUTH AND LANDMARKS DISTRICT COMMISSION SO I MAY END UP HOLDING THAT ONE UNTIL THE NEXT HEARING AND THEN HANS ABOUT OUR BRANDS FROM THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS 0866I HAVE I THINK SHE WAS SUPPOSED TO ATTEND IN PERSON.  I DON'T SEE HER SHE'S A CURRENT MEMBER OF THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS.  THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS IS AT THE LIMIT SORT OF OF LIKE HOW THE FEW AS MEMBERS THAT THEY CAN HAVE. SO WHAT I WILL DO FOR 0866I WILL SPEAK WITH MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES AND SEE IF HER PROVIDING A WRITTEN STATEMENT COULD SUFFICE FOR THE AUGUST 28TH MEETING. OH GO AHEAD CHAIR.  I'M JUST GOING TO PUT ON THE RECORD THAT I DO THINK THAT UH ,THIS INDIVIDUAL NEEDS TO BE HERE AND ASK AND ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE AND BEFORE ANYTHING MOVES FORWARD I WANT TO HEAR FROM THEM DIRECTLY. SO IF THAT WERE TO HAPPEN I WOULD PROBABLY VOTE NO ON IT JUST JUST TO LET YOU KNOW. THANK YOU COUNSELOR. IF IF YOU WERE TO SUBMIT THE QUESTIONS TO THE CHAIR AND SHE WERE TO ANSWER THEM IN A WRITTEN CAPACITY, WOULD THAT SUFFICE FOR YOUR VOTE POTENTIALLY? I THINK THAT NO MATTER WHAT WITH THESE ZBA APPOINTMENTS I NEED MORE INFORMATION SO I PROBABLY WILL BE SUBMITTING SOME THINGS VIA WRITING. AND THEN I ALSO KNOW THAT WE HAVE 0864 AND 0865 THAT WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM THESE INDIVIDUALS.  TWO DO YOU INTEND TO MOVE THOSE FORWARD? SO YEAH, SORRY YOU'RE STEALING THE THUNDER A LITTLE BIT SO 860864 ALLOW ME TO CALL AND THEN OH 865 KERRY WALSH LOG WILL NOT BE MOVING FORWARD AND BOTH OF THEM ARE GOING TO WITHDRAW THEIR INTEREST IN THOSE AND ONE IS MOVING AND THE OTHER IS NOT INTERESTED IN BEING REAPPOINTED. SO I'M SORRY I DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE IS WHICH BUT BUT SO I'LL BE WITHDRAWING THOSE AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.  OKAY SO THEN IT'S UM OR SORRY THAT THE MAYOR WILL NEED TO WITHDRAW THOSE SO I CAN'T WITHDRAW THEM BUT BUT ESSENTIALLY THOSE ARE B WILL BE WITHDRAWN. OKAY. SO THE ONLY THING THE ONLY DOCUMENT QUESTION IS 0866 AND THIS IS HANDY BETTER BARRAZA AND 010701 YEAH SO OKAY THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO YEAH I'M DEFINITELY NOT SET ON I PERSONALLY FEEL LIKE THE ATTENTION AND YOU KNOW AND THE FOLKS WHO ARE ATTENDING THIS AND TAKING THE EFFORT TO BE HERE IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT LIKE SINCE WE'VE STARTED AND SINCE I STARTED AS CHAIR LIKE EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO'S BEING REAPPOINTED OR APPOINTED HAS APPEARED BEFORE THIS COMMITTEE. SO AND I THINK LIKE ON MY END I WANT TO CONTINUE IT'S AN IMPORTANT ROLE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HAS TO TO APPROVE AND TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THESE DOCKETS SO WITHOUT WITHOUT MORE INFORMATION I WON'T MOVE FORWARD ON OH EIGHT, SIX SIX AND THEN HOPEFULLY IF WE NEED ANOTHER HEARING TO DO WITH EITHER OF THESE DOCKETS WE'LL MOVE FORWARD. BUT I WILL BE CHECKING WITH ZEBA TO SEE IF IT'S JUST TO SEE YOU KNOW WHAT WHAT HAPPENED BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THEY WERE PLANNING TO ATTEND TODAY'S HEARING BUT WITH THAT I APPRECIATE I APPRECIATE THIS HEARING AND WHAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH. UM, YOU SEE WHAT I HAVE TO SAY, MADAM CHAIR, MAY I ASK A QUESTION?  YES, GO AHEAD. ARE WE GOING TO BE GIVING ARE WE MOVING TO PUBLIC TESTIMONY AND WILL WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR CLOSING REMARKS AS WELL? I DON'T BELIEVE ANYONE HAS SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC TESTIMONY. IF YOU'D LIKE TO GIVE A LAST STATEMENT YOU CAN. YES, I WOULD. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND INDULGING ME IN THIS OPPORTUNITY TO ASK THESE IMPORTANT QUESTIONS FOR THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS IN PARTICULAR IT LITERALLY HAS BEEN DEATH BY A THOUSAND PAPER CUTS. MY COMMUNITY IS AT CAPACITY.  THEY ARE TIRED, THEY ARE FRUSTRATED AND THERE IS SEVERE DISTRUST WITH THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS IN PARTICULAR AND THERE NEEDS TO BE A COURSE CORRECTION AND THERE NEEDS TO BE A BUILDING OF TRUST ESPECIALLY AFTER WE HAVE DONE PLAN IS BOSTON.  I'M ALSO VERY DISAPPOINTED TO SEE THAT THERE'S NO FULL TIME MEMBER THAT HAS BEEN APPOINTED OR SUBMITTED TO THIS BODY FOR CONSIDERATION FROM EAST BOSTON GIVEN THAT WE HAVE THE MOST VARIANCES OUT OF ANY NEIGHBORHOOD WE DO HAVE DAVE AIKEN WHO IS AN ALTERNATE MEMBER AND HE IS INCREDIBLY COMPETENT AND CREDIBLE AND WE APPRECIATE HIS LEADERSHIP. I DO THINK HE SHOULD BE SHIFTED FROM ALTERNATE TO FULL TIME. HE'S THERE, HE'S READY. HE'S HE'S WILLING INTEGRATED. I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR HIM BUT I DO THINK THAT HE WOULD BE A GREAT ADDITION AS A FULL TIME MEMBER IF HE IS ABLE TO. I HAVE NOT HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH HIM BUT GENERALLY I THINK I'M JUST SAYING OUT LOUD AND ON THE RECORD THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A MEMBER FROM EAST BOSTON ON THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FULL TIME GIVEN THAT WE HAVE SO MANY VARIANCES THE MOST VARIANCES OUT OF ANY NEIGHBORHOOD. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH AND I APPRECIATE AGAIN YOU ALLOW ME TO ASK THESE QUESTIONS AND FOR INDULGE ME . THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH COUNCILOR CLAUDE ZAPATA. SO WITH THAT I THINK WE'VE HEARD FROM MOST DOCKETS SO I'LL JUST SAY OUT LOUD I THINK I'M PLANNING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH 1179063601110698086706410110 AND 0640 AND THEN ON DOCKETS OH 866 AND 0107 WITHOUT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THOSE WILL STAY IN COMMITTEE AND THEN ON 0864 AND 065 IT LOOKS LIKE THOSE ARE GOING TO BE WITHDRAWN SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY PUBLIC TESTIMONY SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD TO ADJOURN THE HEARING ON DOCKETS 0107011001110112063606406410 AND 1179 IS ADJOURNED --------- ##VIDEO ID:_5aXmWWTaIE##  GOOD MORNING.  FOR THE RECORD MY NAME IS ENRIQUE PEPEN DISTRICT FIVE BOSTON CITY COUNCILOR I AM THE CHAIR OF THE BOSTON CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE ON CITY SERVICES AND INNOVATION TECHNOLOGY. TODAY IS MONDAY, AUGUST 12, 2024. THIS HEARING IS BEING RECORDED. IT IS ALSO BEING LIVESTREAMED AT BOSTON OUR GOLF CITY COUNCIL DASH TV AND BROADCAST ON INFINITI CHANNEL EIGHT RCN CHANNEL 82 AND FILES CHANNEL 964. WRITTEN COMMENTS MAY BE SENT TO THE COMMITTEE EMAIL AT. SI SI SI SE T AT BOSTON OUR GOV IT WILL BE MADE A PART OF THE RECORD AND AVAILABLE TO ALL COUNCILORS. PUBLIC TESTIMONY BE TAKEN AT THE END OF THIS HEARING. INDIVIDUALS WILL BE CALLED ON IN THE ORDER IN WHICH THEY SIGN UP AND WILL HAVE 2 MINUTES TO TESTIFY. IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN TESTIFYING IN PERSON PLEASE ADD YOUR NAME TO THE TIME SHEET NEAR THE ENTRANCE OF THE CHAMBER. IF YOU'RE LOOKING TO TESTIFY VIRTUALLY PLEASE EMAIL OUR ESSENTIAL STAFF LIAISON CHARISMA. CHARISMA CH0UH AND AT BOSTON DOT GOV FOR THE LINK AND YOUR NAME WILL BE ADDED TO THE LIST. TODAY WE WILL DISCUSS ONE DOCKET NUMBER 0476. ORDER FOR A HEARING ON TECHNOLOGICAL IMPROVEMENTS IN BOSTON PUBLIC SCHOOL BUS TRANSPORTATION. THESE MATTERS WERE SPONSORED BY MYSELF AND WERE REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON MARCH SIX, 2020 FOR TODAY. I AM JOINED BY MY COLLEAGUES IN ORDER OF ARRIVAL COUNCILOR AT LARGE ERIN MURPHY, COUNCILOR ED FLYNN AND THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT RUDY LOUIJEUNE. WE ALSO RECEIVED A LETTER OF ABSENCE FROM DISTRICT SIX CITY COUNCILOR BEN WEBER.  I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW SORRY . TODAY'S PANELISTS CONSIST OF CARLA TANKO, THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF ROUTING AND PLANNING AND MR DAN ROSENGARD WHO IS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF TRANSPORTATION FOR THE BOSTON PUBLIC SCHOOLS. WE ALSO HAVE A SECOND PANEL WHICH WE LISTEN TO AFTER THIS. MR STEVE WE'RE IN DALLAS. WE'RE IN DALZELL WITH THE CHIEF GROWTH OFFICER FROM BUS PATROL . AT THIS MOMENT I WILL ALLOW MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES A BRIEF OPENING STATEMENT BEFORE WE GET ON WITH THE PRESENTATION.  COUNCILOR MURPHY AND THANK YOU FOR HOLDING THIS HEARING. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. WE ANY ANY WAY WE CAN GET OUR KIDS TO SCHOOL ON TIME SAFELY AND TO SUPPORT OUR BUS DRIVERS AND OUR PARENTS WHO SO MANY RELY ON MAKING SURE THE BUSSES GET OUR KIDS THERE AND I KNOW ALSO THE TECHNOLOGICAL IMPROVEMENTS ARE GOING TO HELP ALSO THE BUS MONITORS AND YOU KNOW THE SCHOOLS WHEN THE KIDS GET DROPPED OFF MAKING SURE THAT OUR KIDS ARE DROPPED OFF SAFELY AND IN NEW ENGLAND WHETHER JUST WAITING AT BUS STOPS AND MAKING SURE YOU KNOW WHEN TO GO TO THE BUS STOP AND IF THE BUS IS GOING TO BE LATE OR IF YOU YOU HAVE TO GO PICK UP YOUR KID. YOU KNOW ALL OF THE THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT. SO LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS CONVERSATION AND WE CAN IMPROVE THE TECHNOLOGICAL IMPROVEMENTS ON THE BUSSES AND ALWAYS UP FOR CONVERSATIONS ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT ALL OF OUR KIDS ARE GETTING TO SCHOOL ON TIME BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THE PERCENTAGE IS IMPROVING BUT WE DEFINITELY HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO IN MAKING SURE THAT ANYONE WHO'S ASSIGNED A BUS GETS TO SCHOOL SAFELY AND ON TIME TO BE THERE TO LEARN.  SO THANK YOU AND LOOKING FORWARD TO THE CONVERSATION. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR . COUNCILOR FLYNN THANK YOU, MR CHAIR, AND THANK YOU TO THE ADMINISTRATION AND TEAM THAT IS HERE AND WORKING HARD TO PROVIDE A SAFE ENVIRONMENT FOR OUR CHILDREN AND OUR STUDENTS TO GET TO SCHOOL AND BACK AND ALSO WHAT I'M INTERESTED IN IS HOW WE CAN ENSURE THAT STUDENTS GET TO SCHOOL SAFELY AND ON TIME AND WHAT CHALLENGES THEY EXPECT AS WE SOON APPROACH THE FIRST DAY OF SCHOOL. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR . FOR THE RECORD, WE'VE ALSO BEEN JOINED BY COUNCILOR JOHN FITZGERALD.  UM, MADAM PRESIDENT.  THANK YOU, MR CHAIR, FOR HOLDING THIS HEARING AND THANK YOU TO EVERYONE FOR BEING HERE. IS OF UTMOST IMPORTANCE THAT WE DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MAKE SURE OUR KIDS ARE GETTING TO SCHOOL ON TIME. IT'S SOMETHING THAT MATTERS TO ALL OF US. I WAS JUST LOOKING AT KIDS ON THE SCHOOL BUS THE OTHER DAY AND THINKING ABOUT THE WORK THAT YOU DO. I KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF INEFFICIENCIES AND YOU ALL HAVE BEEN STEADFASTLY WORKING SO I WANT TO THANK YOU. COLIN DAM IS VERY HAPPY THAT YOU ARE HERE BEFORE US TO TELL US ABOUT WHAT YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON, HOW WE ARE IMPROVING EFFICIENCY, HOW WE'RE WORKING WITH THE BUS DRIVERS AND TRANSDEV TO MAKE THINGS BETTER. SO JUST REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO YOUR TESTIMONY AND TO CONTINUE YOU ALL DO A REALLY GREAT JOB OF UPDATING ME IN MY OFFICE ON WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND ON THE IMPROVEMENTS. I WANT TO THANK YOU AND I ALSO LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING THE TESTIMONY OF MY FORMER CLASSMATE STEVE RANDAZZO AND THE WORK THAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING ON THE PRIVATE SIDE TO REALLY HELP US IMPROVE BUS SAFETY AND TRANSPORTATION.  SO THANK YOU. LOOKING FORWARD TO IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. COUNCILOR FITZGERALD, WOULD YOU LIKE TO GIVE A BRIEF OPENING STATEMENT? THANK YOU, CHAIR. THANK YOU TO THE PANEL FOR COMING. I KNOW VISIT YOU GUYS A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO AND SAW A LOT OF WHAT GOES INTO MAKING THE BUS RIDE SAFE. IT'S CERTAINLY NO EASY TASK TRANSPORTING THAT MANY CHILDREN EACH MORNING SAFELY AND ON TIME. SO I APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS.  I LOOK FORWARD TO HOW WE CAN ALWAYS HELP YOU IMPROVE. THANKS. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR . AND FOR ME YOU ALL KNOW THAT THIS IS MY PASSION. THIS IS THE TOPIC THAT I CHOSE AS MY MAIDEN SPEECH. THIS NOTHING IN MY WE DON'T GET NOTHING MORE IN MY DISTRICT THAN THE MAJORITY OF THE EMAILS AND PHONE CALLS. IT'S REALLY ABOUT THE TRANSPORTATION SAFETY OF STUDENTS THAT ARE GOING TO AND FROM SCHOOLS IF IT'S THEY'RE EITHER WAITING FOR THE BUS, THEY'RE WALKING TO SCHOOL, THEY'RE THEY JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE SAFE.  AND PART OF THAT IS THIS THE TRACKING SYSTEM THAT WE ARE ABOUT TO LEARN FROM? SO I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE AND I'M EXCITED TO HEAR ABOUT WHAT YOU'LL HAVE TO SHARE SO I'LL PASS IT ON TO YOU THE GOOD THANK YOU SO MUCH. COUNCILORS REALLY APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR CARLA AND I TO BE HERE TODAY REALLY KIND OF RESONATE WITH WITH WHAT YOU ALL HAVE SAID ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF GETTING OUR STUDENTS TO AND FROM SCHOOL SAFELY AND ON TIME ON A DAILY BASIS THAT YOU KNOW, WE UNDERSTAND HOW CRITICAL THAT IS FOR STUDENTS TO HAVE CONSISTENCY, TO HAVE A GOOD START TO THEIR DAY, TO BE ABLE TO BE AT SCHOOL ON TIME FOR BREAKFAST AND FOR THE YOU KNOW, THE START OF THEIR DAY YOU KNOW, THE START OF THEIR DAY. SO WE WE TAKE REALLY SERIOUSLY THE WORK THAT WE DO AND WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO BE HERE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT THE NEW TECHNOLOGY THAT WE'RE ROLLING OUT. ZOOM IS WHAT IT'S CALLED THE UM WHICH I KNOW IS THAT CAN BE CONFUSING BECAUSE WE'RE ALSO MEETING OVER ZOOM RIGHT NOW BUT THE ZOOM TECHNOLOGY IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS NOW TO GET TO THE POINT TO BE READY TO DEPLOY THIS AND WE ROLLED OUT THIS NEW TECHNOLOGY FOR THE SUMMER FOR EXTENDED SCHOOL YEAR AND I JUST REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT OUR TEAM THAT TRANSDEV THAT ARE BUS DRIVERS OUR BUS MONITORS HAVE DONE TO GET US TO THIS POINT AND WE HAVE BEEN REALLY ENCOURAGED BY WHAT WE'VE SEEN SO FAR THIS SUMMER AND REALLY EXCITED TO TO ROLL THIS OUT FOR THE FULL SCHOOL YEAR AND I KNOW THERE'LL BE MORE QUESTIONS BUT JUST AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS ONE INSTALLING GPS NAVIGATION TABLETS ON OUR BUSSES WHICH IS A LONG OVERDUE CHANGE REPLACING PAPER PRINT OUT DIRECTIONS THAT DRIVERS USED PREVIOUSLY AND TWO INTEGRATED TRACKING APP FOR FAMILIES THAT GIVES THEM MORE TRANSPARENT AND PROACTIVE INFORMATION ABOUT THEIR BUS. AND SO YOU KNOW THE PRIOR IS MY SCHOOL BUS SYSTEM ALLOWED THEM TO TRACK THE PROGRESS OF A BUS ON A MAP. THIS NEW SYSTEM THROUGH ZOOM THE ZOOM MOBILE APP FOR FAMILIES GIVES THEM THAT ALSO GIVES THEM AN ETA TO THEIR STOP. HOW MANY STOPS ARE LEFT BEFORE THE BUS ARRIVES TO THEIR STOP? AUTOMATED NOTIFICATION SESSIONS IF THE BUS IS RUNNING BEHIND AS WELL AS YOU NOTIFICATIONS TO CONFIRM WHEN THEIR STUDENT IS PICKED UP AND DROPPED OFF AS WELL AS YOU KNOW ADDITIONAL FEATURES. AND SO I'M REALLY EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO BE HERE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT THIS AND ALSO WANT TO LET THE COUNSELORS KNOW AND I THINK YOU ALL I THERE HAVE BEEN ALREADY OR WILL BE INVITED THIS FRIDAY AT OUR WASHINGTON STREET BUS YARD IN ROXBURY. WE'LL BE DOING A AN EVENT THERE AS WELL WITH TRANSDEV AND THE ZOOM TEAM TO DEMO THE TECHNOLOGY AND START TO HELP GET THE WORD OUT TO FAMILIES BEFORE THE START OF THE SCHOOL YEAR. SO I'M REALLY EXCITED AND I'LL PASS TO MY COLLEAGUE CARLA IF THERE'S ANYTHING SHE WANTS TO ADD. THANK YOU, JOHN. GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY. MY NAME IS CARLA TONKO AND AS MANY OF YOU KNOW I AM THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF ROUTING AND PLANNING.  WE ARE EXTREMELY EXCITED ABOUT THIS NEW APP.  YOU KNOW AS A PAIR MYSELF AND AS KIDS MY KIDS WHO HAVE USED THE YELLOW BUS IN THE PAST I KNOW HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS AND YOU KNOW I THINK DONE EXPERIENCE WILL ELABORATE WHAT THIS PROCESS IS GOING TO BE ABOUT.  COUNCILOR PEPEN, I KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU FEEL VERY STRONGLY ABOUT AND AS A PARENT I DO FEEL STRONGLY ALSO SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING US HERE AND LOOKING FORWARD TO THE QUESTION AND ANSWER SESSION ABSOLUTELY NO. AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH TO THE BOTH OF YOU FOR FOR BEING HERE AND TESTIFYING AT THE HEARING. WHAT I'LL DO IS NOW I'LL ALLOW MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES TO ASK THEIR QUESTIONS.  I'LL GIVE THEM ENOUGH TIME TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS YOU HAVE AND IF WE HAVE A SECOND ROUND OF QUESTION WE'LL DO THAT AND WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE WILL GO IN THE ROUND OF THE COLLEAGUES IN ORDER OF ARRIVAL SO I'M GOING TO START WITH COUNCILOR ERINN MURPHY FOR THE FIRST ROUND OF QUESTIONS. SURE. CAN I JUST ASK A QUESTION?  WERE YOU GOING TO GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION THAT PRESENTATION IS FROM THE SECOND PANEL. AWESOME. YEAH. SORRY IF YOU YOU ALL HAVE A PACKET ON HERE THAT'S FOR THE SECOND ONE. OKAY I MEAN I GUESS JUST QUESTIONS TO DIG IN DEEPER TO WHAT YOU KIND OF MENTIONED IN THE OPENING STATEMENTS ABOUT I MEAN I GUESS WHAT IS THE DATA SHOWING YOU NOW OBVIOUSLY YOU MADE THIS DECISION TO INVEST IN THIS NEW TECHNOLOGY AND WHAT ARE THE HOPES THAT YOU ARE HOPING TO GET OUT OF IT? WHERE WHAT ARE WE LACKING NOW THAT YOU HOPE THAT THIS NEW INVESTMENT WILL GIVE US AND GIVE OUR STUDENTS KIND OF YOU STARTED GOING OKAY, YEAH, NO THANK YOU FOR THAT THAT QUESTION'S A REALLY IMPORTANT ONE. YOU KNOW WE'RE WE'RE DOING THIS INITIATIVE.  THIS IS A BIG CHANGE SO YOU KNOW ALONG WITH THAT NEEDS TO BE WHAT ARE THE SUCCESS METRICS AND I THINK FOR THIS SCHOOL YEAR THERE'S TWO BIG ONES THAT WE WANT TO TO MEASURE AND TRACK AND THEY'RE TIED TO WHO ARE THE KEY CONSTITUENTS AND USERS OF THIS TECHNOLOGY. AND SO THE FIRST ONE IS, YOU KNOW, UPTAKE BY THE BUS DRIVERS. YOU KNOW, WE'RE REPLACING PAPER DIRECTIONS WITH GPS NAVIGATION. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DRIVERS UNDERSTAND THAT TECHNOLOGY THAT THEY'RE USING IT WELL, THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK SO THAT YOU KNOW, WE CAN IMPROVE IT IF WE NEED TO. AND SO OUR FIRST GOAL IS TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT CLOSE TO 100% OF DRIVERS ARE ABLE TO SUCCESSFULLY USE THE TECHNOLOGY ON A DAILY BASIS.  ARE THEY GIVEN A TABLET OR DO THEY HAVE TO USE IT ON THEIR OWN DEVICES? YEAH. SO THEY'RE GIVEN A TABLET SO EVERY SCHOOL BUS HAS A TABLET INSTALLED ON IT ALREADY OR I SHOULD SAY BEFORE THE START OF THE YEAR WE'LL BE AT 100% RIGHT NOW I THINK ABOUT 85% OF THE BUSSES HAVE THEM DONE ALREADY.  THE DRIVERS ARE GIVEN TRAINING BEFORE THEIR FIRST DAY YOU KNOW, ON THE BUS USING THE NEW TECHNOLOGY. SO REALLY APPRECIATE WANT TO SHOUT OUT OUR DRIVER TRAINERS OVER AT TRANSDEV WHO DO AN INCREDIBLE JOB WITH THIS AND THE DRIVERS THEMSELVES WHO HAVE REALLY TAKEN TO IT AND JUST AT A HIGH LEVEL WHAT WE FOUND IS BY THE END OF THE FIRST WEEK OF EXTENDED SCHOOL YEAR THIS SUMMER ABOUT 90% OF THE DRIVERS WERE ABLE TO USE THE TECHNOLOGY SUCCESSFULLY ON A DAILY BASIS AND BY THE END OF S.Y. OR BY ABOUT THE MIDDLE OF Y YOU KNOW, SUBSTANTIALLY ALL DRIVERS WERE USING IT SUCCESSFULLY ON A DAILY BASIS. SO THAT'S I WOULD SAY THE FIRST MAIN, YOU KNOW, SUCCESS MEASURE AND THEN THE SECOND IS PARENTS HOW MANY PARENTS ARE USING THE APP ON A DAILY BASIS AND YOU KNOW, AGAIN MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING THEIR FEEDBACK AND MAKING IMPROVEMENTS WHERE WE NEED TO.  AND SO FOR THAT WE NEED TO GET THE MESSAGE OUT TO FAMILIES AND SO, YOU KNOW, REALLY APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU AND WE'D LOVE YOUR ASSISTANCE AND GETTING THE WORD OUT TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS TO TO DOWNLOAD AND USE THE APP AND THEN OF COURSE MEASURING HOW MANY OF THEM ARE USING IT ON A DAILY BASIS. I THINK WE'RE YOU KNOW, IT WILL TAKE A LITTLE BIT LONGER TO GATHER THE DATA ON THAT. BUT WHAT WE UNDERSTAND FROM THE ZOOM TEAM AND OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS IS THAT ABOUT 80% OF PARENTS OF STUDENTS WITH DISABILITIES USE THE APP ON A DAILY BASIS AND ABOUT 50 TO 60% OF GENERAL EDUCATION STUDENTS FAMILIES USE THE APP ON A DAILY BASIS AND SO THOSE I THINK ARE AT LEAST INITIAL TARGETS FOR US TO TO WORK TOWARDS THIS SCHOOL YEAR IS THE MAIN INTERACTION BETWEEN THE SCHOOL BUS DRIVER AND PARENTS OR WHERE DOES THE SCHOOL OR YOUR OFFICE PLAY INTO THIS ALSO DO YOU INTERACT WITH THE APP ALSO OR DOES THE SCHOOL HAVE ACCESS BECAUSE MANY TIMES PARENTS WILL CALL THE SCHOOL THE SECRETARY PICKS UP IF I GET CALLS I KNOW SOMETIMES I CALL YOUR OFFICE DIRECTLY LIKE WILL YOU HAVE LIVE INTERACTION WITH THAT ALSO WE WE WILL YES.  AND I THINK THAT IS A YOU KNOW, KIND OF FOCUSED ON ON THE DRIVER AND PARENT EXPERIENCE. BUT WE OUR TEAM AND THE SCHOOL TEAMS WILL ALSO HAVE FULL ACCESS. AND SO I THINK THAT THE KEY DIFFERENCES IN THE PAST OUR TRACKING SYSTEM WAS VERY REACTIVE. WE COULD TRACK ALL OF THE BUSSES BUT IT WAS UP TO, YOU KNOW, AN INDIVIDUAL ON OUR OPERATIONS OR CUSTOMER SERVICE TEAM TO SAY LET ME SEARCH FOR THIS BUS AND TRACK IT BECAUSE I JUST GOT A CALL FROM A PARENT THE WHAT'S HOW NOW IS IN OUR OFFICE AND WE'D LOVE FOR FOR YOU KNOW FOLKS TO COME BY SOMETIME IN SEPTEMBER AND SEE THIS IN REAL TIME WE NOW HAVE WITH THE ZOOM APP KIND OF A GIANT MAP UP ON A TV RIGHT IN THE IN OUR OPERATIONS HUB AND EVERY CUSTOMER SERVICE TEAM MEMBER HAS IT ON THEIR SCREEN AS WELL. A MAP SHOWING LITTLE YOU DOTS FOR ALL THE BUSSES IN THE CITY MOSTLY HOPEFULLY GREEN MEANING THEY'RE ON TIME BUT THEN IF WHEN A BUS IS RUNNING LATE IT WILL FLIP FROM GREEN TO RED AND THAT TO TRIGGER FOR OUR TEAM AND FOR THE DISPATCH TEAM AT TRANSDEV TO SAY LET ME CLICK INTO THIS WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THIS BUS? LET ME FIND OUT HOW LATE DOES A BUS HAVE TO BE TO BE CONSIDERED NOT GREEN ANYMORE TO BE TOO LATE? WE'RE SAYING ABOUT 20 MINUTES APPROXIMATELY AND THEN SO IT CAN BE UP TO 20 MINUTES LATE TO STILL BE CONSIDERED ON TIME.  THAT'S WHERE WE'RE NOT TO SAY THAT IT'S STILL CONSIDERED ON TIME BUT THAT'S THE INITIAL TRIGGER THAT WE'RE SETTING TO YOU KNOW, LET'S HAVE OUR OPERATIONS TEAM FOCUS THEIR ATTENTION THERE AND HOPEFULLY AS WE IMPROVE WE CAN SHRINK THAT SHRINK THAT METRIC DOWN. AND THEN JUST TO THE LAST PART OF YOUR QUESTION, THE SCHOOLS HAVE ALL THE SAME ACCESS AS WELL JUST FOR THE BUSSES ASSIGNED TO THEIR SCHOOL.  THEY DON'T HAVE TO SEE THE WHOLE RIGHT AND THEY ARE ALSO GETTING TRAINING ON THAT AND HOW TO USE THE APP AND WHICH SCHOOL STAFF AND THE PRINCIPAL THE SCHOOL SECRETARY AND THE WHOEVER THE PRINCIPAL HAS IDENTIFIED AS THEIR MAIN TRANSPORTATION LEAD ARE ALL AUTOMATICALLY HAVING ACCOUNTS SET UP AND BEING SCHEDULED FOR TRAININGS AND THEN THE PRINCIPAL CAN IDENTIFY ADDITIONAL STAFF MEMBERS IF THEY'D LIKE. OH THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YOU'RE BEING A COUNSELOR. COUNSELOR FLYNN THANK YOU, MR CHU. AGAIN, THANK YOU TO THE ADMINISTRATION TEAM.  CAN YOU TALK ABOUT I REPRESENT A LARGE COMMUNITY THAT SPEAKS CANTONESE IN SPANISH BUT LET'S LET'S FOCUS ON CANTONESE.  HOW ARE PARENTS COMMUNICATING WITH THROUGH THE APP WITH THEIR SCHOOL ON ENSURING THEIR CHILDREN'S BUSSES ARRIVING ON TIME, GETTING TO SCHOOL ON TIME HOW IS LANGUAGE AND COMMUNICATION ACCESS IMPACTING THIS APP AND STUDENTS THAT SPEAK CANTONESE SIR SURE YEAH.  SO OBVIOUSLY HAS BEEN VERY IMPORTANT TO US FROM OUR CALL CENTER TO USING THE APP TO INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO USE THE APP WE HAVE IT IN I DON'T KNOW MAYBE TEN PLUS DIFFERENT LANGUAGES AND IF THERE IS MORE THAT ANYBODY WOULD LIKE WE'RE HAPPY TO LOOK INTO THAT TOO. SO WE WILL CONTINUE. I MEAN LANGUAGE ARTS IS AN EXTREMELY IMPORTANT AND IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T UNDERSTAND I THINK AS I SAID THEY CAN CALL IT A CALL CENTER AND SOMEBODY THERE WOULD SPEAK CANTONESE OR WHATEVER THE LANGUAGE WOULD BE IT WOULD BE AN EXPENSE TO THEM AND THEY WILL ALSO GET LETTERS IN THEIR LANGUAGE DO WE KNOW RIGHT NOW HOW MANY PARENTS HAVE SIGNED UP THAT SPEAK CANTONESE ? SIGN UP TO GET THIS OUT? I DON'T HAVE THAT THAT INFORMATION BUT WE COULD CERTAINLY GET IT.  DO WE KNOW HOW MANY IN SPANISH HAVE SIGNED UP?  NOT NOT WITH ME BUT I COULD CERTAINLY GET IT AND WE KNOW THAT SPANISH AND HAITIAN CREOLE ARE THE TWO MOST COMMON FIRST LANGUAGES OTHER THAN ENGLISH WITHIN WITHIN THE DISTRICT BUT CANTONESE AS WELL AS MANY OTHERS ARE SPOKEN BY A LARGE NUMBER. BUT DO YOU HAVE THAT NUMBER NOW OR YOU JUST HAVE INTERACTIVE YET?  WE WE HAVEN'T BROKEN DOWN THE DATA BY THAT SPECIFIC DIMENSION YET BUT WE CAN OKAY I'D BE INTERESTED IN KNOWING WHO SIGNED UP SCHOOLS ABOUT TO START VERY SOON SO ARE WE GOING TO HAVE THIS APP WITHOUT THE APP GOING FORWARD WITHOUT THE INTERACTION OF THE STUDENTS ARE OR ARE WE GOING TO ENSURE THAT THE STUDENTS AND THEIR PARENTS CATCH UP DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR? ARE THEY IS THIS GOING TO BE ALL INCLUSIVE AT THE START OF THE SCHOOL YEAR?  YEAH. SO WE'LL BE WE'LL BE STARTING A BIG COMMUNICATION PUSH TO FAMILIES THIS WEEK FOR THEM TO DOWNLOAD THE APP. WE DIDN'T DIDN'T WANT TO START TOO EARLY BUT BEFORE THERE WAS ANYTHING FOR THEM TO ACTUALLY SEE IN THERE. BUT WE'LL BE LIKE I SAID STARTING A BIG COMMUNICATIONS PUSH THIS WEEK AND INCLUDING HERE AND ON FRIDAY AT OUR AT OUR WASHINGTON STREET BUS YARD THERE WILL BE A LETTER GOING OUT TO ALL FAMILIES ON FRIDAY IN THEIR HOME LANGUAGE WITH INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO DOWNLOAD AND USE THE APP AND CERTAINLY BEFORE THE START OF THE SCHOOL YEAR WE'LL BE ABLE TO LOOK AND SEE HOW MANY FAMILIES HAVE ACTUALLY DOWNLOADED AND BREAK THAT DATA DOWN BY DIFFERENT DIMENSIONS WHILE I'M CONCERNED BECAUSE I OFTEN FEEL THAT BPAS DOESN'T FOCUS ON CANTONESE SPEAKING FAMILIES AS MUCH AS THEY SHOULD AND THAT'S A PRIORITY FOR ME . I HAVE STRESSED THIS TO THE BPC TEAM THAT THIS SHOULD BE A PRIORITY AS WELL. I DON'T THINK IT IS A PRIORITY . WHY ARE WE COMMUNICATING SO LATE IN THE GAME IN THIS SUMMER TO OUR CANTONESE SPEAKING FAMILIES?  YEAH, SO WHAT I WOULD SAY IS AT THE END OF LAST SCHOOL YEAR IN JUNE WE SENT HOME A BACKPACK LETTER TO ALL FAMILIES IN AGAIN IN THEIR HOME LANGUAGE LETTING THEM KNOW THAT THIS WAS COMING. BUT I AGAIN WE DIDN'T WANT FAMILIES TO TO GO IN AND START DOWNLOADING THE APP TOO SOON WHEN THERE WAS NOTHING FOR THEM TO SEE. THEY'RE AT THAT POINT IN TIME AND SO BUS ASSIGNMENTS WILL BE COMING OUT NEXT WEEK.  AND SO THIS WEEK IS KIND OF IN PARTNERSHIP WITH OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM WHEN WE THOUGHT IT MADE THE MOST SENSE TO REALLY START A BIG COMMUNICATION BLITZ AND WE'LL CERTAINLY MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PRIORITIZING AND FOCUSING IN ON OUR CANTONESE SPEAKERS AND OTHER POPULATIONS THAT MIGHT BE HARDER TO REACH SOMETIMES BEFORE THE SCHOOL YEAR STARTS. CAN YOU GIVE ME AN UPDATE ON THE OUTREACH YOU'VE DONE ON SPANISH SPEAKING FAMILIES AND CANTONESE SPEAKING FAMILIES? I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE FULLY ENGAGED BEFORE THE FIRST DAY OF SCHOOL. ABSOLUTELY.  THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR CHAN. THANK YOU, COUNSELOR.  AT THIS TIME WE'LL GO WITH MADAM PRESIDENT LOUIJEUNE THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.  JUST A FEW QUESTIONS AND I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS APP AND ABOUT THE POTENTIAL POSSIBILITY. I DO THINK THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE ARE PARENTS WHO ARE AS TECHNOLOGICALLY TECHNOLOGICALLY SAVVY AND ONE THING THAT I KNOW THAT PAST COUNSELORS HAVE DONE IS REALLY SUPPORTED FAMILY LIAISONS WHO I THINK ARE THE ONES ENGAGING OFTEN WITH OUR FAMILIES TO HELP THEM WALK THROUGH THE PROCESS. SO I JUST HAVE SOME QUESTIONS AND WE'VE HAD HEARINGS ON THIS TOPIC BEFORE AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KNOW THEM FOR THE RECORD IF YOU KNOW WHAT THE CURRENT 90% INTERESTED IN DROP OFFS AND PICK UPS IS A CURRENT MEANING OVER THE SUMMER OR LAST YEAR THIS LAST SCHOOL YEAR AS WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THE START OF THE NEW SCHOOL YEAR ON SEPTEMBER 5TH KNOW GIVE ME ONE SECOND AND I JUST WANT TO PULL UP PULL IT UP AND MAKE SURE I GIVE YOU THE EXACT RIGHT NUMBER BUT I CAN I CAN GET THAT AND THEN OKAY, SO I'LL ASK MY BOOK THE NEXT QUESTION HOW DOES THAT COMPARE TO DATA FROM THE LAST FEW YEARS AND HOW MANY PICK UPS OR DROP OFFS DID NOT OCCUR AT ALL LAST SCHOOL YEAR AND HOW DOES THAT COMPARE TO PREVIOUS NUMBERS?  SO JUST THAT DATA COMPARISON WOULD LOVE TO GET THAT AND IF I WAIT FOR YOU TO GET DATA'S YEAH YEAH. OKAY SO LAST SCHOOL YEAR OUR MORNING ON TIME PERFORMANCE WAS 90% ARRIVING ON TIME 98% WITHIN 15 MINUTES AND 99.4% WITHIN 30 MINUTES OF ON TIME AND LESS THAN 0.1% OF SCHEDULED TRIPS DIDN'T RUN LAST THAT YEAH SO IF IT'S 99 4.99 FOR THAT 9.4% WITHIN 30 MINUTES THAT MEANS IT'S 0.6 THAT DIDN'T RUN 0.6 WERE MORE THAN 30 MINUTES LATE OR DIDN'T OR DIDN'T RUN. OH YES.  SO 0.1% DIDN'T RUN. SO I GUESS 0.5% WERE MORE THAN 30 MINUTES LATE. SO WHEN WE AS COUNSELORS HEAR ABOUT THOSE SITUATIONS WHERE THERE WAS NO BUS PICKUP, THERE WAS NO BUS PICKUP, YOU'RE SAYING THAT THAT REPRESENTS 0.1% OF THE OVERALL BUSSES THAT DON'T CORRUPT THE OVERALL BUSSES THAT ARE RUNNING OF THE OVERALL SCHEDULED BUSSES? THAT'S RIGHT THOUGH CERTAINLY YOU KNOW, A BUS RUNNING MORE THAN 30 MINUTES LATE TO SOME EXTENT IS NOT VERY MUCH BETTER THAN THE BUS NOT RUNNING AT ALL BECAUSE BY THAT POINT WE KNOW MOST FAMILIES HAVE ALREADY HAD TO MAKE ALTERNATIVE ARRANGEMENTS FOR THAT DAY. SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO BE LASER FOCUSED ON THAT AS WELL.  SO WE COULD JUST SAY THAT THE IF THERE'S A BIG PROBLEM HERE IT IS IN THAT 0.6% OR MAYBE EVEN PRIOR BECAUSE YOU KNOW THE 15 TO 30 MINUTE COULD ALSO BE DISRUPTIVE. BUT IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 30 MINUTES OR MORE OR NOT ARRIVING, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 0.6% OF THE OVERALL NUMBER OF SCHEDULED BUSSES THAT EXIST. AND SO WHEN I HEAR THE NUMBERS LIKE IN THAT PERSPECTIVE IT'S LIKE OH ACTUALLY LIKE TO LIKE THESE ARE HUMANS ARE DRIVING LESSONS LIKE OVERALL IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT'S IT IT'S IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE DOING PRETTY OKAY IS WHAT I'M SAYING BUT WE HEAR ABOUT THEM AS COUNSELORS. WE HEAR ABOUT THE SITUATIONS WHERE THAT ARE REALLY DISRUPTIVE, WHERE A PARENT HAS TO GET AN UBER HAS TO GET BY IN SOME SORT OF OTHER ACCOMMODATION. HOW DO WE COMPARE TO OTHER LARGE CITIES WHEN IT COMES TO OUR ON THE ON TIME NATURE OF OUR SCHOOL BUSSES? IT'S A REALLY, REALLY GOOD QUESTION. IT'S ONE THAT WE ALSO TRY VERY HARD TO ANSWER TO BE 100% HONEST WITH YOU IT IS A VERY DIFFICULT QUESTION TO ANSWER MOST IF NOT ALL URBAN SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE NOT REQUIRED TO PUBLICLY RELEASED THIS DATA. WE ARE REQUIRED TO PUBLICLY RELEASE IT AS PART OF THE SYSTEMIC IMPROVEMENT PLAN WITH DC WHEN WE HAVE ASKED OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS FOR THIS DATA JUST TO BE 100% HONEST OH THERE'S NOT A LOT OF WILLINGNESS TO SHARE DESIRE TO SHARE. SO IT IS A IT IS A DIFFICULT QUESTION TO ANSWER WITH ANY SPECIFICITY. THEY DON'T HAVE THEIR CITY COUNCILS ASKING THEM THESE QUESTIONS AND THEY'RE NOT BEING PUT ON THE RECORD. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. SO I THINK THAT ANSWER THE SECOND QUESTION. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT BUS MONITORS. DO WE KNOW HOW MANY BUS MONITORS VIA DPS CURRENTLY EMPLOYEES AND WHAT'S THE POLICY FOR ASSIGNING BUS MONITORS TO BUSSES?  SO WE ENDED LAST SCHOOL YEAR WITH JUST UNDER 750 BUS MONITORS WHICH IS 750 WOULD IS THE FULLY STAFFED MARKER FOR US YOU KNOW BECAUSE OF JUST NORMAL ATTRITION AND YOU KNOW SOME PEOPLE YOU KNOW MOVE ON TO OTHER OTHER OPPORTUNITY IS RIGHT NOW WE HAVE 710 OF THOSE BUS MONITORS ARE STILL ACTIVE AND WE'VE SUBMITTED 61 NEW CANDIDATES FOR HIRE AND THEY'RE WORKING THROUGH THE THE HIRING AND ONBOARDING PROCESS RIGHT NOW. AND SO WE EXPECT TO START THIS SCHOOL YEAR, YOU KNOW, FULLY STAFFED IF NOT SLIGHTLY ABOVE THAT AS WELL. AND THEN TO THE SECOND PART OF YOUR QUESTION, BUS MONITORS ARE ASSIGNED FOR STUDENTS WITH DISABILITIES WITHIN THE IEP PROCESS AND SO THAT IS A IT'S AN IEP TEAM DECISION BASED ON, YOU KNOW, STUDENT SPECIFIC NEEDS FOR, YOU KNOW, STUDENTS WHO WHO NEED ADDITIONAL SUPPORT ON THE BUS.  SO IF THERE'S A IF THERE'S A BUS THAT TRANSPORTS 25 STUDENTS LET'S SAY BUT THEN NONE OF THOSE STUDENTS HAVE AN IEP,  THERE WOULD NOT BE A BUS MONITOR ON THE BUS. SO ALL OF OUR SMALLER BUSSES AND SO WE HAVE FOUR DIFFERENT TYPES OF BUS THE BIG FULL BUSSES WE CALL THEM HAVE SAFETY MINI SAFETY AND WHEELCHAIR BUS THOSE LAST THREE CATEGORIES ALL OF THOSE BUSSES HAVE A GENERAL BUS MONITOR ON EVERY BUS NOW THAT THAT GENERAL MONITORS PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITY IS SUPPORTING ANY GENERAL MONITOR REQUIRED STUDENTS BUT THEY ARE YOU KNOW ON THAT BUS OF COURSE AND CAN SUPPORT ALL OF THE STUDENTS ON BOARD THE BUS OUR OUR FULL BUSSES DO NOT BY DEFAULT HAVE HAVE BUS MONITORS ON BOARD BUT SOME OF THE SCHOOLS DO OPT TO PUT WHAT WE CALL BUS ATTENDANTS ON BOARD WHICH IS YOU KNOW, AS A STAFF MEMBER WHO'S THERE TO SUPPORT ALL THE STUDENTS ON BOARD THE BUS YOU KNOW, RATHER THAN BEING FOCUSED ON THAT THE STUDENTS WHO REQUIRE A BUS MONITOR BASED ON THEIR DISABILITY OR SPECIFIC NEED. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S I DID NOT KNOW THAT AND I APPRECIATE THAT. AND I WANT ALSO SHOUT OUT TO MY COLLEAGUES COUNSELOR ED ANDERSON AND COUNSELOR ZUBER WHO ARE WORKING TO HELP TO INCREASE THE PAY THAT OUR SCHOOL MONITORS ARE BUS MONITORS GET BECAUSE IT'S NOT ENOUGH.  I THINK THIS IS A QUESTION THAT WE'LL HEAR LATER ON WHEN WE HAVE OUR SECOND PANEL. BUT JUST TO YOU AND JUST TO LAY THE FOUNDATION, ARE THERE CAMERAS INSTALLED INSIDE AND OUTSIDE OF THE SCHOOL BUSSES RIGHT NOW? YES, THERE ARE. AND WOULD WE USE THAT DATA FOR LIKE WHAT WHAT ARE WE MONITORING FOR? IS IT IS IT IS IT MORE INTERNALLY MONITORING FOR THE SAFETY OF SAFETY OF YOUR SAFETY? SO THERE'S YES, THERE'S THERE'S TWO CAMERAS ON BOARD EVERY BUS ONE WHICH FACES OUTWARDS AND THAT CAMERA IS PRIMARILY USED YOU KNOW, IN CASE THERE'S A BUS CRASH OR YOU KNOW, ANY SORT OF SAFETY INCIDENT FOR THAT FOR THAT FOLLOW UP. AND THEN THERE'S ONE CAMERA INSTALLED FACING TOWARDS THE BUS DRIVER AND BOTH OF THOSE CAMERAS ARE TIED TO A SYSTEM CALLED LINUX DRIVE CAM WHICH THE TRANSDEV SAFETY TEAM USES AND THAT SYSTEM AUTOMATICALLY FLAGS ANY POTENTIAL VIOLATION SIGNS OR UNSAFE DRIVING OR YOU KNOW, NEAR CRASHES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.  FOR A FOLLOW UP BY THE TRANSDEV SAFETY TEAM WITH THE DRIVER WHETHER THAT'S ADDITIONAL COACHING THAT'S NEEDED OR WHAT HAVE YOU. OKAY, THANK YOU. MY TIME'S UP SO I WILL DO A SECOND ROUND. I'LL WAIT FOR CEREMONY FOR MY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL PRESIDENT I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE'VE BEEN JOINED BY CITY COUNCILOR SHARON DURKIN. WE'RE IN THE FIRST ROUND OF QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW BUT I'D LIKE TO PASS IT ON TO COUNCILOR FITZGERALD.  THANK YOU, CHAIR.  A COUPLE OF JUST RUDIMENTARY QUESTIONS AT FIRST, BUT THE TABLET THAT'S LOCATED ON THE BUS, WHERE IS THAT LOCATED?  HOW WAS IT SECURE? IT'S NOT IN THE DRIVER'S HANDS. I IMAGINE THERE'S SOME SORT OF LIKE SAFE SECURE PLACE WHERE IT CAN'T GET RIPPED OFF OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT THAT KIND OF LIKE YOU HAVE WHERE YOU HAVE YOUR PHONE IN YOUR CAR IT'S KIND OF MOUNTED. I DON'T LOOK AT MY PHONE IN MY CAR MISSING DRIVER YOU DON'T LOOK AT THAT THEY DON'T LOOK AT THE IPAD EITHER ON THIS OR STOPS NOTES AND IT'S IT'S LOCKED INTO A CRADLE MOUNT SO THAT'S YEAH YEAH SO IT CAN'T BE REMOVED AND IT'S HARD WIRED IN AND SO IT'S ALWAYS YOU KNOW CHARGING FROM THE BUS POWER AND ALL THAT THANK YOU VERY MUCH THE LETTER THAT IT GOES OUT TO AT THE END OF THE SCHOOL YEAR THAT JUST WENT OUT TELLING PEOPLE ABOUT THIS APP UPCOMING IN THEIR HOME LANGUAGE DOES THAT ONLY GO TO THE STUDENTS WHO TAKE THE BUS ONLY BECAUSE I MEAN I NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB AT LOOKING AT MY KIDS BACKPACK EVERY DAY BUT I DO NOT RECALL SEEING THAT LETTER. BUT THEN AGAIN MY CHILD IS ABLE TO WALK TO SCHOOL SO I DON'T KNOW IS IT ONLY THE KIDS THAT ARE WRITTEN DOWN AS TRANSPORTATION? NO, IT IT DOES GO OUT TO ALL STUDENTS, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE WE KNOW OFTEN IF STUDENTS CHANGING SCHOOLS BETWEEN SCHOOL YEARS MAYBE THEIR TRANSPORTATION ELIGIBILITY IS GOING TO CHANGE BUT AT THE SAME TIME IT YOU KNOW, IT WENT OUT THE SECOND WEEK OF JUNE AND PROBABLY THERE'S LOTS OF COMMUNICATIONS GOING OUT AT THAT POINT IN TIME. SO I CERTAINLY DON'T FAULT ANYONE FOR FOR NOT SEEING IT. I APPRECIATE THE COVER . THANK THE YOU GUYS ARE DOING THE WELCOME THE KINDERGARTEN PROGRAMS IT IS ARE YOU GUYS INVOLVED IN PUSHING THE APP OUT THROUGH THESE ESPECIALLY RIGHT IF YOU'RE PUTTING YOUR KINDERGARTNER ON THE BUS FOR SURE I IMAGINE 100% OF PARENTS ARE GOING TO BE SAYING I'M GOING TO WANT TO WATCH THE APP. IS THERE ANY COMMUNICATION WITH THEM TO USE THAT WELCOME THE KINDERGARTEN PROGRAM AS A WAY TO PUSH OUT THE INFORMATION ON THIS APP? YES. WELL THAT'S ALL THE STAFF WORKING THERE WILL WILL BE AWARE OF AND HAVE A FLIER THAT'S AVAILABLE IN ALL THE LANGUAGES TO SHARE WITH FAMILIES. IT'S GREAT. I APPRECIATE THAT.  AND JUST TO ADD TO YOUR MIND, WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH THE OFFICE OF NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES MAKING SURE THAT THEY GET OUT TO THEIR CONSTITUENTS AND OBVIOUSLY THEY HAVE A REACH THEM WE MAY NOT HAVE AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, LOOKING TO HAVE YOUR SUPPORT AND THE COUNCIL SUPPORT AND HELPING US GET IT OUT. ALSO SOCIAL MEDIA IT'S ALREADY BEEN IN THE NEWS WHATEVER WE CAN DO COMMUNICATION'S KEY. YEAH IF THERE IS A FLIER THAT YOU COULD SEND TO THE CHAIR I'M SURE HE COULD SEND IT OUT TO ALL OF US AND WOULD BE HAPPY TO POST THAT AND HELP AMPLIFY IT. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.  NO YOU KNOW THAT'S IT FOR NOW. I REALLY DO APPRECIATE IT THAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING A GREAT JOB AND AGAIN HAVING GOTTEN A TOUR OF YOUR OFFICE AND ALL THE GREAT PEOPLE THAT WORK THERE AND THAT THE HIGH STRESS ENVIRONMENT THAT COMES AT AT DROP OFF AND PICK UP TIMES EACH MORNING I CAN ONLY IMAGINE BUT YOU GUYS SEEM TO HANDLE IT VERY WELL AND I KNOW THAT OF COURSE IT'S NOT ALWAYS THE EASIEST PHONE CALLS TO GET OR EXPLANATIONS TO GIVE BUT WE KNOW THAT YOU GUYS ARE MAKING THE IMPROVEMENTS AND LOOK FORWARD TO HELPING YOU IN ANY WAY WE CAN. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YOU THANK YOU COUNSELOR. COUNSELOR DURKIN THANK YOU SO MUCH CHAIR AND REALLY APPRECIATE BEING HERE.  I HAD A GREAT TOUR OF VPC TRANSPORTATION SOME TIME IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS. IT'S ALL BEEN REALLY A WHIRLWIND BUT I REALLY APPRECIATE BOTH OF YOUR LEADERSHIP.  CARLA AND DAN, I KNOW WE DID HEAR SOME FRUSTRATING THINGS ABOUT LIKE YOU KNOW, PEOPLE YOU KNOW, BUS DRIVERS HAVING TO USE LIKE MAPQUEST. IT FELT VERY YOU KNOW, IT FELT VERY LIKE 20 YEARS AGO WHEN I FIRST STARTED YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU KNOW I REMEMBER WHEN I STARTED DRIVING AT 16 YOU PRINT OUT YOUR THINGS AND YOU KNOW YOU'D HAVE TO KNOW WHERE TO GO. BUT I'M REALLY EXCITED TO HEAR ABOUT SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS AND I KNOW THAT OUR BUS DRIVERS WE'RE DEALING WITH YOU KNOW, THAT'S A TOUGH POSITION TO BE IN BUT OFTENTIMES ONCE YOU DO IT FOR THE 10TH TIME THEN YOU KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING AND YOU KNOW YOU DON'T NEED IT AS MUCH . BUT BUT IT WAS REALLY THOSE FOLKS THAT WERE FILLING IN THAT WERE HAVING THE GREATEST STRUGGLE. SO I APPRECIATE IT.  YOU KNOW, WE I THINK BP'S TRANSPORTATION HAS A REALLY DIFFICULT JOB AT STATE. THEY GET STUDENTS AROUND THE CITY AND I THINK YOU KNOW, I THINK I REALLY COMMEND YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO.  I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS AND I'LL JUST READ THEM INTO THE RECORD AND THEN SO I REALLY BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF I HAVE ONE K STREET SCHOOL AND NOT A TON AND OBVIOUSLY THE NEW MLK MAKING SCHOOL IS ALSO IN MY DISTRICT BUT I THINK THERE'S A COUPLE AND I GUESS THE LIST OF SCHOOLS IN MY DISTRICT KIND OF DICTATES THAT LIKE BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE BEING TRANSPORTED FROM ANYONE WHO'S IN MY DISTRICT THAT'S BEING TRANSPORTED THERE NEEDS TO BE A LOT OF LIKE PARENT STUDENT COMMUNICATION HAPPENING. SO I WANTED TO ASK THESE THREE QUESTIONS HOW CAN PARENTS WHAT CAN PARENTS DO NOW TO HELP MAKE TRANSPORTATION GO SMOOTHLY IN THE FALL?  HOW CAN PARENT GUARDIANS HELP SUPPORT STUDENT SAFETY ON THE BUS AND WHEN WILL PARENTS AND GUARDIANS BE NOTIFIED ABOUT THE STUDENTS TRANSPORTATION FOR THIS UPCOMING SCHOOL YEAR?  SO I CONCENTRATE ON HOW ARE YOU. I THINK FOR YOUR FIRST QUESTION IF A PARENT CAN DOWNLOAD THE APP I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE REALLY IMPORTANT. THERE'S ALSO AN OPTION FOR THE PARENT TO UPLOAD A PICTURE OF THE CHILD SO THAT'S GOING TO BE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.  WE WOULD STRONGLY RECOMMEND THAT PARENTS DO THAT.  YOU KNOW IT WOULD BE SAFE, IT'D BE MORE EFFICIENT. IT WILL NOT ONLY ASSIST THE PARENTS BUT IT WILL ALSO ASSIST THE BUS DRIVERS AND KNOWING WHO'S COMING ON WHO'S GOING OFF. SO IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT I COULD RECOMMEND FOR THIS FOR THE START OF THE SCHOOL YEAR IS DO THAT.  YES. SO YEAH THAT'S KIND OF AND THEN THE ONLY I WANT TO FIRST JUST I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU KIND OF POINTING OUT IN PARTICULAR ONE THAT DRIVING A SCHOOL BUS IS A VERY DIFFICULT JOB AND WE REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE AND OUR DRIVERS DO A FANTASTIC JOB AND I THINK THEY'VE THEY'VE REALLY TAKEN TO THE ZOOM TECHNOLOGY AND SHOWN A WILLINGNESS TO TO REALLY JUMP IN AND LEARN AND ALSO THEY'VE THEY'VE PROVIDED SOME HELPFUL FEEDBACK TO US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE USING IT IN A WAY THAT THAT REALLY WORKS FOR IT FOR EVERYBODY YOU KNOW, AND PARTICULARLY AS YOU SAID THE SUBSTITUTE OR STANDBY DRIVERS WHO DO A DIFFERENT ROUTE EVERY SINGLE DAY ARE REALLY I THINK GOING TO BENEFIT FROM FROM HAVING THE TABLET RATHER THAN THE PRINTOUT.  AND THEN THE LAST THING I THINK YOUR THIRD QUESTION WAS JUST WHEN WILL PARENTS BE NOTIFIED OF THEIR TRANSPORTATION FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR AND AS WE HAVE IN PAST YEARS WE'LL SEND OUT BUS ASSIGNMENTS BY MAIL AND EMAIL THE PROBABLY THE THE BEGINNING OF THE LAST WEEK IN AUGUST SO AUGUST 26TH RANGE BUT ALSO I WOULD DOUBLE DOWN ON THE RECOMMENDATION FOR PARENTS TO DOWNLOAD THE APP BECAUSE THEY'LL SEE THEIR STUDENTS BUS ASSIGNMENT IN THE APP PROBABLY BEFORE THEY GET THAT TAP EMAIL MAIL NOTIFICATION AND IF THERE'S ANY CHANGE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR THAT WILL ALWAYS REFLECT IN THE ZOOM APP AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION WAS HOW CAN PARENTS SUPPORT SAFETY ON THE BUS?  YEAH. SO I THINK FIRST AND FOREMOST I WOULD SECOND CARLO'S RECOMMENDATION FOR PARENTS TO CONSIDER UPLOADING A PICTURE OF THEIR STUDENT THAT WILL REALLY THAT WILL HELP THE SCHOOLS, IT WILL HELP OUR TEAM, IT WILL HELP THE DRIVERS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE RIGHT STUDENTS ARE GETTING ON AND OFF THE BUS AT THE RIGHT SPOT. AND THEN SECONDLY, I THINK JUST YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH WITH YOU KNOW, PARENTS WORKING WITH THEIR STUDENTS AND SCHOOLS, THE SCHOOL BUS IS REALLY AN EXTENSION OF THE CLASSROOM AND THE SAME CULTURE AND COMMUNITY THAT EXISTS IN THE CLASSROOM THE SAME, YOU KNOW, BEHAVIORAL NORMS ALL THAT EXTENDS TO THE SCHOOL BUS AND SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK PARENTS ARE YOU KNOW, A KEY PART OF HELPING STUDENTS UNDERSTAND THOSE AND YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT THE SCHOOL BUS IS A SAFE AND WELCOMING, WELCOMING ENVIRONMENT FOR ALL STUDENTS AND I KNOW I WON'T BELABOR I KNOW WE'VE GOTTEN SO DEEP INTO SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT CERTAIN COMMUNITY MEMBERS HAVE HAD WITH TRANSPORTATION LIKE A VERY YOU KNOW, MY NEW STAFF OF LIKE BEING PICKED UP ON LIKE THE WRONG SIDE OF THE STREET ONE DAY AND STUFF LIKE THAT WHERE IT'S LIKE WE LIVE IN SUCH AN URBAN ENVIRONMENT.  I'M LIKE URBAN CORE IN DISTRICT EIGHT WHERE LIKE GETTING PICKED UP ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE STREET CAN MEAN LIKE TAKING LIKE A FIVE OR 6 MINUTES AND THINKING YOU'RE GOING TO MISS THE BUS AND AND I KNOW WE'VE GONE DEEPLY INTO THOSE AND I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR PARTNERSHIP. I THINK I REALLY ALSO APPRECIATED SEEING THAT 311 HAS AN EQUIVALENT AT PBS TRANSPORTATION A SORT OF LIKE AND I DON'T KNOW A CALL CENTER THAT PEOPLE CAN CALL INTO AND GETTING TO SEE A LOT OF THE STRUCTURES.  I DON'T HAVE MUCH SUGGESTIONS RIGHT NOW FOR WHAT YOU COULD DO BETTER OTHER THAN YOU KNOW, UPDATE TECHNOLOGY WHICH IS WHAT YOU'RE DOING. SO I JUST REALLY APPRECIATE THE PARTNERSHIP AND AND I KNOW YOU KNOW, IT CAN BE FRUSTRATING FOR FAMILIES WHEN THINGS AREN'T BUT I KNOW FROM HAVING MET THE FOLKS THAT ARE WORKING ON THIS LIKE THEY TRULY CARE. THEY WANT EVERYONE TO GET HOME SAFE AND AND I WOULD JUST REALLY APPRECIATE AND THERE'S YOU KNOW, LITTLE THINGS KIDS DECIDING THEY'RE GOING TO GO TO THEIR FRIEND'S HOUSE INSTEAD OF GETTING ON THE BUS AND IT CREATES AN EMERGENCY AND AND YOU KNOW AND I THINK BUT KNOWING THAT LIKE THAT'S THE KIND OF STUFF THAT HAPPENS IN AN URBAN ENVIRONMENT SOMETIMES AND THAT'S THE KIND OF THING THAT HAPPENS, YOU KNOW, WITH SCHOOL AGE KIDS AND JUST KNOWING THAT VPC TRANSPORTATION IS DOING EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO TO GET THAT AND I THINK HAVING TOURED THE SITE I'M VERY CONVINCED OF THAT AND THANK YOU BOTH FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP. THANK YOU.  THANK YOU COUNSELOR. THIS IS MY TURN. SO SET UP MY OWN TIMER REAL QUICK.  ALL RIGHT. SO JUST FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU SO MUCH TO THE QUESTIONS THAT I'VE ALREADY BEEN ASKED BECAUSE I THINK THAT MY COUNT AND MY COLLEAGUES HAVE SOME GREAT QUESTIONS AND FOR YOUR RESPONSES AS WELL OUT OF CURIOSITY, WHEN WE APPLICATION BECOMES AVAILABLE TO ALL PARENTS, WILL THERE BE TRAININGS AVAILABLE TO TEACH PARENTS HOW TO USE THEM? I COUNCIL PRESIDENT AXWORTHY GOOD QUESTION BOTH JUST PARENTS BEING DIFFERENT LEVELS OF TECH SAVVINESS AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S TRAININGS AND THEN WILL THERE BE LIKE HOW TO VIDEOS OF HOW TO USE THE THE NEW APP YEAH SO THERE WHEN THE WELCOME LETTER GOES OUT THIS FRIDAY TO FAMILIES OF ALL ELIGIBLE STUDENTS IT WILL INCLUDE A LINK TO A FLIER THE SAME THAT WE'LL SHARE WITH YOU AS WELL AS A LINK TO A FAKE NEWS PAGE THAT KIND OF GOES THROUGH JUST HOW TO DOWNLOAD THE APP, HOW TO LOG IN FOR THE FIRST TIME AND THE SIMPLE QUESTIONS AND THEN IF ANY FAMILIES DO HAVE, YOU KNOW, FURTHER QUESTIONS, IT'S HELPFUL TO GET FURTHER TRAINING. WE JUST RECOMMEND THEY CALL OUR TRANSPORTATION HOTLINE 6176359520 THAT THAT TEAM IS IS STAFFED 6 A.M. TO 7 P.M. AND THOSE FOLKS ARE AMAZING AND THEY CAN HELP ANY PARENTS WORK THROUGH ANY CHALLENGES THEY'RE HAVING. OKAY THAT'S GOOD THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SENDING THAT OPERATING AND IN REGARDS TO THE BUS DRIVERS, I KNOW THAT KARLA YOU MENTIONED THAT PARENTS WILL HAVE THE OPTION TO PUT THE PICTURES OF THEIR CHILD BUT HOW WHAT'S THE MECHANISM FOR THEM TO TRACK HOW MANY STUDENTS ARE ON THEIR BUS WITHIN WEB SO THE PARENTS KNOW THE DRIVER?  OH, THE DRIVER. SO IT WILL TELL THEM HOW MANY KIDS ON THE APP HOW MANY KIDS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE ON THE BUS. NO, BUT I MEAN LIKE THE DAY OF LIKE ARE THEY ABLE TO TRACK SO LET'S SAY ENRIQUE GETS ON, JOHN GETS ON, SHARON GETS ROUTE . ARE THEY ABLE TO TO PUT THAT ONTO THE APP TO JUST TO LIKE ALERT THE PARENT THAT THEIR CHILD IS ON YES YES SO AS A AS THE CHILD IS ON THE BUS THEY WILL BE ABLE TO YOU KNOW, JOHNNY'S ON THE BUS.  YOU KNOW SARAH IS ON THE BUS AS THEY GET ON THEY WILL BE PUTTING THEM IN THE SYSTEM AND THE IPAD. OKAY. OKAY. THAT'S GOOD. SO AT EACH STOP THEY'LL SEE A LIST OF WHEN THEY PULL UP TO THE STOP AND THEY'LL SEE A LIST OF STUDENTS ASSIGNED TO THAT STOP AND THEN FOR EACH STUDENT THEY'LL BE ABLE TO MARK EITHER PICKED UP OR YOU KNOW, NO SHOW THAT DAY. AND ALSO I GUESS ONE OTHER THING THAT PARENTS CAN DO THAT I'LL MAYBE MISSED EARLIER BUT I'LL FLAG HERE IS PARENTS WITHIN THE APP CAN CANCEL IN ADVANCE IF THEY KNOW THEIR STUDENTS NOT GOING TO BE RIDING THE BUS THAT DAY AND THAT WILL ALERT THE DRIVER IN ADVANCE AND IF IF THEY'RE THE ONLY STUDENT AT THAT STOP THEN THE DRIVER ACTUALLY WON'T NEED TO GO TO THAT STOP AND IT WILL KIND OF DYNAMICALLY REROUTE THE BUS WHICH WILL HELP IMPROVE OUR EFFICIENCY AND TIMELINESS AND IF YOU KNOW IF THERE'S MULTIPLE STUDENTS AT THAT STOP THE DRIVER WOULD JUST SEE YOU KNOW ,IN ADVANCE THAT STUDENT HAD CANCELED FOR THE DAY. THAT'S REALLY I WAS JUST ABOUT TO ASK THAT QUESTION. SO I'M GLAD THAT THAT'S PART OF THE NEW SYSTEM.  AND YOU ACTUALLY MADE ME THINK ABOUT ANOTHER QUESTION AND IT IS HOW LONG DOES A BUS DRIVER WAIT FOR A STUDENT IF THEY'RE NOT ON THE AT THE LOCATION? IT'S AN IMPORTANT QUESTION.  SO WE ASK PARENTS TO PROVIDE OR ANTICIPATE A PLUS OR MINUS TEN MINUTE WINDOW FROM THE THE SCHEDULED STOP TIME AND WHEN A DRIVER ARRIVES TO THE STOP, PARENTS ARE ASKED TO BE OUTSIDE WITH THEIR STUDENTS. YOU KNOW, WITHIN THAT TEN MINUTE WINDOW AND THEN WHEN THE BUS ARRIVES TO THE STOP THE DRIVER IS ASKED TO STOP OPEN THE DOOR, YOU KNOW, PUT OUT THEIR STOP ARM, LOOK AROUND AND IF IF THERE'S NO STUDENT THERE THEY WILL THEY WILL PROCEED ON AND UNFORTUNATELY, YOU KNOW, THAT IS IMPORTANT FOR THE DRIVER TO BE ABLE TO COMPLETE THEIR ROUTE ON TIME. ONE OF THE GOOD THINGS ABOUT THE ZOOM APP IS I THINK IN THE PAST, YOU KNOW, PARENTS COULD SEE THE BUS MOVING AROUND THE MAP BUT THERE IS LIMITED INFORMATION THAT THEY WERE GETTING IN TERMS OF TRACKING THE BUS. THE ZOOM APP PROVIDES ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. IT'LL SAY YOU KNOW, FOUR STOPS AWAY, THREE STOPS AWAY, TWO STOPS AWAY.  YOU KNOW, BUS IS NOW ARRIVING AND SO THAT I THINK AND HOPE AND BELIEVE WILL HELP FAMILIES GET A MORE ACCURATE ETA OF WHEN THE BUS IS GOING TO ARRIVE WHICH WILL HELP THEM TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE OUTSIDE AT THE RIGHT TIME. SO WOULD YOU SAY THAT THIS APP IS COMPARABLE TO LIKE UBER AND LYFT WHERE WHEN YOU'RE WAITING FOR YOUR DRIVER YOU CAN TRACK THEM LIVE AND YOU CAN YOU CAN SEE LITERALLY WHERE THE WHERE THE CAR IS LIKE WOULD YOU SAY THIS IS COMPARABLE WHERE PARENTS USE A SIMILAR MODEL? I WOULD SAY YES, YES. YEAH, I THINK IT'S FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN SO FAR AND VERY SIMILAR I WOULD ACTUALLY SAY IT'S A LITTLE BIT BETTER BECAUSE YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE THE VEHICLE RIGHT ON THE MAP AND IT'S LIKE MOVING OKAY SO YEAH, THIS IS A GOOD PREVIOUSLY YOU MENTIONED THAT THE BUSSES DO HAVE CAMERAS ON THEM. HOW OLD ARE THEY?  ARE THEY NEW TECHNOLOGY? ARE THEY OLD TECHNOLOGY?  THE CAMERAS ARE I'M NOT SURE WHEN THEY WERE INSTALLED THAT TO ME I DON'T KNOW OF TOP OF MY HEAD BUT THE THE TRANSDEV MAINTENANCE TEAM DOES A GREAT JOB MAINTAINING THOSE CAMERAS AND EVERY SINGLE DAY THEY'RE ABLE TO GET A REPORT OF ANY CAMERAS THAT ARE NOT LIKE PINGING AND AND THEN THEY'LL WORK TO EITHER FIX OR REPLACE THE CAMERA ON THAT BUS. OKAY.  WHEN YOU WOULD BE INTERESTED IN THE IMPLEMENTATION OF STOP SIGN CAMERAS TECHNOLOGY IN THE FUTURE YEAH.  I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU ASKING THIS QUESTION AND THIS TOPIC BEING PART OF THE HEARING TODAY . I THINK WE KNOW UNFORTUNATELY THAT THIS IS A BIG CHALLENGE AND THAT YOU KNOW, WHILE YOU KNOW WHILE THE VAST MAJORITY OF DRIVERS ARE VERY CONSCIENTIOUS AND STOP FOR THE SCHOOL BUS THAT EVERY DAY THERE ARE CARS THAT THEY DRIVE BY THE SCHOOL BUS WHEN THE WHEN THE BUS HAS STOPPED AND THE STORM IS OUT AND THIS, YOU KNOW, CREATES OBVIOUSLY A HUGE SAFETY RISK FOR YOU KNOW, FOR STUDENTS. AND SO I THINK ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO TO IMPROVE STUDENTS SAFETY AND ONE OF THEM YOU KNOW, ONE I THINK GREAT IDEA WOULD BE PUTTING STOP ARM CAMERAS ON BUSSES AND YOU KNOW, ALLOWING FOR ENFORCEMENT OF STOP ARM VIOLATIONS.  SO WE WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED IN AND I'M REALLY EXCITED TO HEAR FROM THE NEXT PANELIST ABOUT THE EXPERIENCE THEY'VE HAD IN PEABODY.  ABSOLUTELY I AM. THE REASON WHY I ALWAYS BRING THAT UP IS I STOOD AT THE INTERSECTION OF ALBANO STREET AND WASHINGTON STREET IN ROSLINDALE AND IT WAS THE AFTERNOON DROP OFF TIME AND I WAS THERE BECAUSE A PARENT LITERALLY EMAILED ME SAYING HEY, WE'RE THIS ISSUE WITH CARS KEEP ON THE STOP SIGN. I KID YOU NOT WHEN THE BUS GETS THERE PUTS OUT THE STOP SIGN A CAR ZOOMS BY AND KIDS WERE WAITING TO CROSS WASHINGTON STREET WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY ONE OF OUR BUSIEST STREETS IN MY DISTRICT AND I DO WANT TO THANK CARLO BECAUSE AT A DIFFERENT INTERSECTION CLOSER POPLAR STREET AND BEECH STREET IN ROSLINDALE YOU ACTUALLY HELPED THE PARENTS BY MOVING THIS THE PICKUP LOCATION TO A SAFER LOCATION.  SO THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT AND THINKING ABOUT DIFFERENT WAYS TO CHANGE IT. BUT I THINK THAT WE I BELIEVE THAT THERE'S 28 STATES AT THE MOMENT THAT LEGALLY CAN USE STOP SIGNS CAMERAS AND THE STOPS ON THE CAMERAS FOR ENFORCEMENT IN MASSACHUSETTS CANNOT BOSTON CANNOT LEGALLY USE CAMERAS FOR ENFORCEMENT BUT IN THE NEXT PANEL WE ARE GOING TO HEAR THAT PEABODY, MASSACHUSETTS DID A PILOT PROGRAM TO JUST TRACK HOW MANY CARS HOW MANY CARS ARE VIOLATING THE STOP SIGN IN THE FIRST FIVE WEEKS OVER 800 VEHICLES VIOLATED THAT STOP SIGN.  SO WITH THAT, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU AND I WILL ALLOW MY COLLEAGUES IF THEY HAVE A SECOND ROUND OF QUESTIONS BEFORE WE LISTEN FROM OUR SECOND PANEL TO ASKING QUESTIONS.  COUNCIL PRESIDENT, DO YOU HAVE A SECOND ROUND? ABSOLUTELY. THANK AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTIONS.  CHAIR I CONSIDER CONNIE MENTIONED THERE ARE STUDENTS WHO ARE SOMETIMES ASSIGNED TO BUSSES BUT THEN THEY ARE HAVE AN EXTRACURRICULAR OR THERE'S A DIFFERENT THEY DECIDE TO GO TO THEIR FRIEND'S HOME. SO I THINK IT'S INTERESTING THAT THERE WILL BE WAYS WITH THIS APP TO THE ONE OFFS IF PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY END UP USING AND WE HOPE THAT THEY DO THEY END UP INTO THE TECHNOLOGY GOING APPS BUT WE ALSO KNOW THAT THERE ARE MORE STUDENTS WHO ARE ASSIGNED TO BOSTON WHO ACTUALLY USE THE BUS WHICH LEADS TO A LOT OF INEFFICIENCIES IN THE SYSTEM. IT LEADS TO A LOT OF COSTS.  SO IS THERE A WAY THAT THIS APP WILL ALSO HELP US TO ADDRESS THAT INEFFICIENCY AND MAYBE WHAT MAYBE AS TO LIKE REDESIGNING SORT OF BUS ROUTES OR DECREASING THE NUMBER OF BUSSES THAT WE HAVE ON THE ROAD BECAUSE WE HAVE MORE STUDENTS ASSIGNED TO BUSSES AND ACTUALLY USING THEM. SO HOW IS THIS GOING TO GET AT THAT OR WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO GET IT DONE? YEAH, THAT'S A THAT'S A FANTASTIC QUESTION. IT IS IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE ABSOLUTELY THINKING ABOUT WHEN THE COUNCIL OF GREAT CITY SCHOOLS DID THEIR TRANSPORTATION REVIEW PART OF THE THE SYSTEMIC IMPROVEMENT PLAN A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO THIS WAS ONE OF THEIR KEY RECOMMENDATIONS AND IT CERTAINLY WAS PART OF THE MOTIVATION FOR IMPLEMENTING SOME OF THIS TECHNOLOGY AND.  SO WHAT I WOULD SAY IS OUR OUR TRANSPORTATION ADVISORY COUNCIL ACTUALLY KIND OF FORMALLY MADE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE DISTRICT THIS PAST SPRING THAT WE FIRST GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE CAN ACCURATELY TRACK RIDERSHIP AND THEN SECONDLY, ONCE WE DO THAT THAT WE IMPLEMENT A PROCEDURE WHERE IF A STUDENT IS NOT USING THEIR BUS ASSIGNMENT FOR X NUMBER OF CONSECUTIVE DAYS THAT WE TAKE THEM OFF THE BUS ROSTER TO MAKE THE ROUTE MORE EFFICIENT. AND OF COURSE FAMILIES COULD ALWAYS REINSTATE THE BUS IF THEY NEED IT LATER. SO IT IS OUR GOAL TO GET TO THAT POINT. I THINK THE FIRST STEP OF THAT HAS TO BE HOW DO WE ACCURATELY TRACK RIDERSHIP DATA AND SO PART OF THE IMPLEMENTATION THIS FALL IS GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THE STUDENT RIDERSHIP DATA WE'RE GETTING EVERY DAY BASED ON THE DRIVERS TAPPING STUDENTS ON AND OFF THE BUSSES AND DOING WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO TO GET TO A POINT WHERE WE CAN YOU KNOW, WE FEEL CONFIDENT IN THAT DATA AND THEN FROM THERE WE WOULD HOPE AT SOME POINT WHETHER IT'S KIND OF NEXT SPRING OR THE SUBSEQUENT SCHOOL YEAR TO YOU KNOW, GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE'RE ACTUALLY ONLY YOU KNOW KEEPING THE STUDENTS ON THE ROUTES WHO ARE ACTUALLY USING THE BUS EVERY DAY.  THANK YOU. YEAH, I AGREE THAT'S A THAT'S A FIRST STEP AND I ALSO WITH OFFLINE AND FOLKS WHO ARE NOT OF COURSE AS I SORT OF NOTICED PRIOR JUST TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE THERE'S OKAY GREAT AND THEN YOU ARE THE TRANSPORTATION ADVISORY COUNCIL ANOTHER ONE WAS MY QUESTION IS IS THERE AN ACTIVE WORKING GROUP OR TASK FORCE DEDICATED TO DISCUSSING TRANSPORTATION ISSUES AROUND PUBLIC SCHOOLS? BUT IS THAT WHAT TRANSITION ADVISORY COUNCIL IS AND IS THAT MADE UP OF PARENTS OF TEACHERS OF A MIXED BAG OF FOLKS WHO ARE GIVING YOUR DEPARTMENT ADVICE ON HOW TO IMPROVE?  EXACTLY. YEAH. SO WE HAVE HAD TRANSPORTATION ADVISORY COUNCIL IN PLACE SINCE I BELIEVE FEBRUARY JANUARY, FEBRUARY 2023 WAS THEIR FIRST THEIR FIRST MEETING AND THAT GROUP IS MADE UP OF BASICALLY,  YOU KNOW, ALL OF OUR STAKEHOLDERS. SO THERE'S THERE'S PARENT REPRESENTATION, THERE'S MEDPAC REPRESENTATION, THERE'S YOU KNOW SCHOOL REPRESENTATION NON SCHOOLS THAT WE SERVICE AS WELL AS SOME INTERNAL TO THE DISTRICT AND OUR TEAM REPRESENTATION AND THAT GROUP MEETS MORE OR LESS MONTHLY AND YOU KNOW TO TO YOU KNOW SHARE KNOWLEDGE TO HOLD US ACCOUNTABLE AND TO TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR FOR HOW WE CAN CONTINUE TO IMPROVE. GREAT. HOW DO YOU BECOME A MEMBER OF THAT COUNCIL SO THAT GROUP WAS SET UP BASED ON KIND OF A WORKING GROUP LIKE I SAID IN JANUARY OF 2023 AND I THINK AS A AS A COUNTY DEPARTMENT SELECTS LIKE WHO'S SELECTING THE MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL IT WAS LIKE AN INFORMAL PROCESS. SO THERE'S A NUMBER OF THERE HAVE TO BE A NUMBER. SO THE THE INITIAL GROUP WAS SET UP KIND OF BASED ON OUR TEAM AS WELL AS THE OFFICE OF FAMILY AND COMMUNITY INVESTMENT AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS MADE BY THE COUNCIL OF GREAT CITY SCHOOLS AND I THINK AND SINCE THAT TIME THE THE COUNCIL ITSELF YOU KNOW EVERY PERIODICALLY WE TRY TO REFLECT AND SAY YOU YOU KNOW, DO WE NEED TO CHANGE OUR CONSTITUENCY IN ANY WAY I THINK YOU KNOW, YOU MENTIONED A CONSTITUENCY THAT I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT AND IT'S ALSO SOME THAT COUNCIL MEETING IS WITH THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE'RE OFTEN SPENDING ON OUT OF SCHOOL TRANSPORTATION FOR STUDENTS OUT OF DISTRICT AND I KNOW THAT YOUR YOUR OFFICE ENDS UP DEALING WITH THAT SORT OF LIKE THE BACK END NOT THE HOW YOU ACTUALLY GOT THERE BUT WHAT ARE WE DOING TO IMPROVE COST AND EFFICIENCIES AROUND THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE'RE SPENDING ON SENDING KIDS OUT OF DISTRICT ESPECIALLY IN SITUATIONS?  WHAT YEAH, I GUESS THAT'S THE QUESTION AND I KNOW THAT THERE ARE OTHER AREAS THAT WE NEED TO IMPROVE AND EQUITABLE SERVICES DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE THERE ARE LOTS OF KIDS THAT WE ARE SENDING OUT OF DISTRICT WHO WE COULD BE EDUCATING WITHIN OUR PUBLIC PARKS AND PUBLIC SCHOOLS ENDS UP BEING A LARGE COST EXPENDITURE FOR THE CITY. SO WONDERING IN YOU WENT FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE ARE THERE EFFICIENCIES THAT WE CAN BE GAINING AS OF WHEN IT RELATES THE FOLKS AT THE STUDENTS WHO ARE TRANSPORTING OUT OF DISTRICT? YEAH I IT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT QUESTION.  YOU KNOW THIS GROUP IS OUR MOST VULNERABLE STUDENTS AND YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY THEIR THEIR PLACE OUT OF DISTRICT ITS BECAUSE THAT IS A YOU THAT SCHOOL MEETS WHATEVER THEIR SPECIFIC NEEDS ARE THAT YOU KNOW HAS BEEN DETERMINED THAT IT CAN'T BE MET WITHIN THE DISTRICT FROM A TRANSPORTATION PERSPECTIVE IT IS A VERY COSTLY YOU KNOW TO TRANSPORT THESE STUDENTS AND SO MANY OF THESE STUDENTS ARE THE ONLY OR ONE OF TWO OR THREE STUDENTS GOING TO THEIR SPECIFIC SCHOOL AND SO ,YOU KNOW, THE THE COST PER PUPIL TO TRANSPORT THESE STUDENTS IS SIGNIFICANTLY ABOVE WHAT WE SEE OTHERWISE IT'S ABOUT $45,000 A YEAR TO TRANSPORT EACH OF THESE STUDENTS. SO FROM A FROM A COST PERSPECTIVE IT IS A VERY, VERY SIGNIFICANT PART OF OUR BUDGET . I THINK I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER TO THE OFFICE OF SPECIALIZED SERVICES AROUND, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE THE BROADER THINKING AROUND ENROLLMENT OF THAT POPULATION AND THOSE QUESTIONS. BUT CERTAINLY IT'S A BIG FOCUS FOR US FROM A COST PERSPECTIVE . THANK YOU. MR . I HAVE TWO OTHER QUESTIONS I COULD EITHER ASK THEM NOW I CAN COME BACK TO HOPEFULLY SHORT QUESTIONS ARE ANY BUSSES EQUIPPED WITH AUTOMATIC EMERGENCY BRAKING SYSTEMS OR OTHER ADVANCED SAFETY TECHNOLOGIES AUTOMATIC EMERGENCY BRAKING SYSTEMS NO.  AND IN TERMS OF KIND OF ALL OF THE I WOULD I WOULD WANT TO SPEAK TO OUR FLEET TEAM WHO KNOWS THE SPECS OF THE BUSSES MUCH, MUCH BETTER THAN ME . SO THAT'S CERTAINLY AN AREA WE CAN KIND OF UP ON. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION IS I'M A CITY COUNCILOR . I GET A CALL FROM A PARENT THAT I YOU KNOW MY MY STUDENT MY KID'S BOSS HASN'T SHOWN UP. I HAVE TO GET TO WORK. THERE'S NO OTHER WAY. I CAN'T GET MY KID TO SCHOOL.  I KNOW THAT THERE'S A HOTLINE THAT THEY CAN CALL SOMETIMES WE YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO GET THROUGH WHAT IS THE PROCEDURE LIKE? WHAT ARE WHAT ARE WE SUPPOSED TO BE TELLING PARENTS WHAT'S AVAILABLE TO THEM THAT WILL BE PAID FOR AN ALTERNATIVE METHOD OF TRANSPORTATION ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 0.6% OR 30 MINUTES OR MORE OR 0.1% AT ALL. SO JUST LIKE WHAT HOW DO YOU WANT US TO MOVE IN THIS SPACE BECAUSE THIS IS A QUESTION THAT WE END UP GETTING OFTEN DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR. SO HOW DO YOU WANT US TO TRIAGE THOSE ISSUES?  I'M SURE OBVIOUSLY THEY CAN PARENTS CAN CALL OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE LINE AT ANY TIME AND TALK TO ONE OF THE AGES THERE. AS JOHN SAID EARLIER, THEY'RE THERE FROM 6 A.M. TO 7 P.M. IF THERE IS A YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DEALT WITH RIGHT NOW THAT YOU HAVE TO DO WITH OBVIOUSLY PLEASE FEEL FREE TO HAVE YOUR STAFF REACH OUT TO ME DIRECTLY AND I CAN ABSOLUTELY HAVE THEM FEEL FREE TO, YOU KNOW, GIVE OUR EMAILS WHATEVER IS NEEDED.  OBVIOUSLY IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT THESE CHILDREN GET TO WHERE THEY'RE GOING ON A TIMELY MATTER. SO OKAY, THANK YOU. I WANT TO THANK YOU BOTH OF YOU BOTH HAVE BEEN PHENOMENAL IN SO MANY SITUATIONS. WE'VE HAD TO PULL YOU IN ON CONSTITUENT ISSUES. BUT EVEN ON HELPING KIDS GET TO EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITIES. SO I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK.  IT'S OFTEN THANKLESS BUT IT DOESN'T GO UNNOTICED. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL PRESIDENT I DO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE'VE BEEN JOINED BY COUNCILOR GABRIELA CALDEIRA SUPPORTER WE ARE IN THE SECOND ROUND OF QUESTIONS SO I WILL ALLOW YOU TO DO THANK YOU. YOU'RE YOUR STATEMENTS. THANK YOU SO MUCH AND I APOLOGIZE THAT I'M LATE BUT IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL. HI CARLA. IT'S NICE TO HAVE YOU BACK IN THE CITY OF THANK YOU. WE MISSED YOU. DAN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR WORK. I KNOW THIS IS NOT AN EASY JOB. IT'S VERY STRESSFUL SO I APPRECIATE THE THE MOVE TO DO AND THEY GET A COUNCIL PREPARED. DO YOU HAVE A UNIQUE WAY OF BRINGING ISSUES THAT HIT EVERYDAY BOSTONIANS TO THE COUNCIL AND CREATED A REALLY EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT CONVERSATION AROUND THEM?  FIRST IT WAS PRIVATE WAYS, NOW IT'S THIS AND MANY OTHER HEARING ORDERS. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH. THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR STREET SWEEPERS AND SO WE WERE ABLE TO GET A ROUTE ROUTE OPTIMIZATION PILOT IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET AND SO I AM SO INTERESTED FROM IDEATION TO EXECUTION OPERATIONALIZE THIS FOR ME . HOW DID YOU GET THIS DONE? I'M SURE YOU HAD TO PUT AN RFP OUT. WHAT DID THAT LOOK LIKE?  YOU JUST WALKED ME THROUGH THIS SO THEN WE CAN REPLICATE THE SUCCESSFUL MODEL IN OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS. YEAH, NO I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT QUESTION AND IT IT REALLY WAS A MULTIYEAR PROCESS TO GET US THIS POINT. IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS WAS VERY MUCH ALREADY ON OUR RADAR BUT AS PART OF THE COUNCIL OF GREAT CITY SCHOOLS REVIEW OF TRANSPORTATION THEY FLAGGED THIS AS ONE OF THE MOST IMPACTFUL STEPS THAT THE DISTRICT COULD AND SHOULD TAKE TO IMPROVE TRANSPORTATION AND SO THAT PUSHED US TO I GUESS MOVE IT UP OUR PRIORITY LIST AND MAKE SURE THAT WE GOT IT DONE QUICKLY. WE WROTE AND DEPLOYED RFP LAST A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO AND THEN IN OCTOBER OF SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR AWARDED YOU KNOW, AWARDED THE CONTRACT TO ZOOM FOLLOWING THE RFP PROCESS AND THEN IT REALLY HAS BEEN A NINE MONTH IMPLEMENTATION SINCE THAT YOU KNOW, SINCE THAT TIME WORKING WITH THE ZOOM TEAM TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE KIND OF THOUGHTFULLY IMPLEMENTING DEPLOYING AND ROLLING OUT THIS TECHNOLOGY ACROSS THE DISTRICT. AND SO, YOU KNOW, IT IT TAKES TIME BUT IT VERY MUCH HAS BEEN WORTH IT.  THANK YOU. AND WHAT SORT OF INVESTMENTS DOES THIS TAKE? LIKE HOW MUCH ARE YOU PAYING ZOOM FOR A CONTRACT HOW MUCH DOES MATERIALS COST THE TABLETS, ALL OF THAT AND I GUESS MAINTENANCE AS WELL TOO GIVEN THAT WE KNOW SOMETHING IS GOING TO GO WRONG.  SO WHAT DOES MAINTENANCE LOOK LIKE MOVING FORWARD? HOW CAN WE PIVOT IF SOMETHING WERE TO GO AWRY AND HOW MUCH WOULD THAT COST LIKE MOVING FORWARD LIKE WHAT'S THE MAINTENANCE COSTS FOR OUR PBS BUDGET MOVING FORWARD? SO FOR BHP'S TRANSPORTATION WE MAINTAIN OR I SHOULD SAY TRANSDEV MAINTAINS ALL OF OUR BUSSES IN-HOUSE WE HAVE A FULL MAINTENANCE TEAMS OF YOU KNOW CERTIFIED MECHANICS AT EACH OF OUR THREE BUS YARDS. SO WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO KIND OF ROLL THIS INTO THAT OUR OUR BUSSES PREVIOUSLY HAD A DIFFERENT GPS TECHNOLOGY ON BOARD AND SO MUCH OF THIS IS IS REPLACING THAT IT'S JUST KIND OF THE TABLET PART THAT IS NEW ON THE BUS AND SO YOU KNOW BIG SHOUT OUT OUR MAINTENANCE TEAM OVER AT TRANSDEV DOES A GREAT JOB WITH THAT AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO KIND OF ROLL THAT INTO OUR EXISTING MAINTENANCE TEAM AND MAINTENANCE BUDGET AND IF YOU GIVE ME A MINUTE OR TWO I CAN PULL UP AND TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT THE THE ANNUAL COST PER ZOOM IS AND I SHOULD KNOW THIS BUT MAYBE YOU NEED SOME TIME TO UNDERSTAND THIS TOO. BUT WHAT IS THE NUMBER WITHIN OUR FLEET OF BUSSES THAT WILL HAVE THIS?  WE HAVE 700 ABOUT 750 SCHOOL BUSSES IN OUR FLEET. WE'VE RUN 630 TO 640 ON A DAILY BASIS AND 100% OF THOSE BUSSES WILL BE OUTFITTED WITH THE ZOOM TECHNOLOGY. THAT'S GREAT.  AND THEN WE'RE GETTING SPECIFICS ON THE AMOUNT OF MONEY. YES. YES.  OKAY, GREAT. JUST PULLING IT UP. NO PROBLEM. AND WHILE THAT'S WHILE YOU'RE DOING THAT, UH, I'M SEEING HERE THAT THIS TECHNOLOGY WILL BE ABLE TO MITIGATE AGAINST RECKLESS DRIVING. MAYBE THAT'S FOR THE NEXT PANEL BECAUSE IT'S IN HIS PRESENTATION OR THEIR PRESENTATION. WE JUST HAD GRUBHUB AND OR JUST DASH IN HERE TALKING ABOUT THEIR INABILITY TO TRACK RECKLESS DRIVING OF THEIR OWN AND I JUST FIND IT FASCINATING THAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO THIS WITH SCHOOL BUSSES BUT NOT FOR FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS.  SO MAYBE I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SPEAK TO THAT LIKE HOW YOU'RE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THESE FOLKS ARE SPEEDING OR TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF THEY'RE RUNNING A STOP SIGNS AND HOW WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO REPLICATE THAT WITH SOME OF OUR UM DOORDASH AND GRUBHUB LIKE PARTNERS.  YES. SO I MEAN IT SOUNDS LIKE THE NEXT PANELIST MIGHT BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO THIS A LITTLE BIT AS WELL.  EXCITED TO HEAR THAT PORTION BUT FOR OUR PIECE OUR BUSSES ARE INSTALL ARE OUTFITTED WITH A LINUX DRIVE CAM TECHNOLOGY AND THAT INCLUDES TWO CAMERAS ONBOARD EACH BUS AS WELL AS SOME ADDITIONAL HARDWARE AND THAT TECHNOLOGY FLAGS POTENTIAL UNSAFE DRIVING INSTANCES AND THEN THE SAFETY TEAM INVESTIGATES AND FOLLOWS UP APPROPRIATELY BASED ON THAT.  THANK YOU. AND THEN I CAN TELL YOU THE PRICE IS RIGHT. SO IT'S IT'S A LITTLE OVER $500,000 A YEAR FOR.  THE ZOOM TECHNOLOGY WE HAVE A UM A THREE YEAR CONTRACT WITH THEM AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT THERE WAS ABOUT $1,000,000 OF UPFRONT IMPLEMENTATION COSTS FOR ALL OF THE TABLETS AND THE OTHER HARDWARE WAS IT WAS THIS CEREMONY KNOWN RIGHT OR WAS IT NO THIS IS WAS AN INVESTMENT WE PUT INTO OUR OPERATING BUDGET. OKAY GREAT.  DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA OF WHAT WILL HAPPEN AFTER THREE YEARS WITH THIS CONTRACT?  I THINK YOU KNOW, WE'RE EXCITED TO SEE HOW THE YOU KNOW, HOW IT HOW THE FIRST FULL YEAR GOES AND THEN FROM THERE REASSESS BUT WE CAN REASSESS SOME BUT WHAT I WOULD WHAT I WOULD SAY IS YOU KNOW THIS IS THIS ISN'T GOING AWAY RIGHT. WE'RE NOT GOING BACK TO PAPER DIRECTIONS AT ANY POINT IN THE FUTURE. SO WHETHER IT'S CONTINUING WITH ZOOM OR ANOTHER RFP, IF THERE'S A YOU KNOW, TURNS OUT THERE'S SOMEBODY ELSE ON THE MARKET THAT CAN DO IT BETTER BUT WE'RE WE'RE NOT GOING BACK AT ANY POINT.  HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET THIS TECHNOLOGY FROM MY PARENTS THEY STILL USE MAPQUEST SO THAT'S A DIFFERENT STORY. I THINK YOU CHECK BACK YOUR COUNSELOR FITS.  DO YOU HAVE START COUNSELOR FITZGERALD DO YOU HAVE ANY SECOND ROUND SOME QUICK ONES THE TABLET THAT'S IN THE BUS CAN IT BE USED FOR ANYTHING ELSE? THE DRIVER WON'T BE ABLE TO GET ON THE INTERNET ON FACEBOOK. YEAH. GO RIGHT.  NO OTHER DISTRACTION IS PROVIDED THROUGH THAT. THAT'S THAT'S GREAT.  AND THEN THE CAMERAS THAT ARE ON THE INSIDE OF THE BUS DOES THAT I MEAN I GUESS IT CAN BE USED I KNOW YOU SAID IT'S FOR THE DRIVER BUT ESSENTIALLY BUT TO THE KIDS NO THERE'S A CAMERA ON THE INSIDE AND IS THAT SORT OF I'M THINKING ABOUT SORT OF MONITORING BEHAVIOR BECAUSE I KNOW A LOT OF INCIDENTS OCCUR ON THE BUS AND IF KIDS KNOW THAT HEY DON'T DO THAT BECAUSE THERE'S A CAMERA INSIDE IF IT MIGHT HELP DISSUADE SOME BULLYING OR OTHER THINGS THAT KIND OF GO DOWN.  BUT I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN DO STUDENTS KNOW THAT THERE IS A CAMERA ON THE INSIDE OF THE BUS OR IS THAT JUST A AND IF SO, DO WE USE IT ALL TO MONITOR? YEAH, I KNOW IT'S NOT A TRANSPORTATION QUESTION REALLY BUT IT'S IT'S ON THE BUS SO YEAH I MEAN THEY CAN I MEAN I DON'T THINK WE TELL THEM BUT THEY CAN SEE US. YEAH SO THE PARENTS KNOW WHAT'S ON THERE SO YEAH BUT YEAH THAT'S THAT THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE HAVE IT IS FOR SITUATIONS LIKE THAT BULLYING OR DIFFERENT THINGS HAPPENING AND WE DO GET REQUESTS FOR VIDEO TALK SO IT'S YEAH IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO HAVE.  THAT YEAH THANK YOU THAT'S IT THAT'S I APPRECIATE IT THANK YOU. MY VERY LAST QUESTION FOR YOU IF SOMEONE HAS TO HAVE A SMARTPHONE, ARE THEY ABLE TO USE THIS ON THEIR LAPTOP? YEAH SO IT'S A IT'S AN ANDROID AND IOS APP SO YOU YOU DO NEED THE APP BUT AS I UNDERSTAND IT, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD DOWNLOAD THE APP ON AN IPAD OR YOU KNOW, AN APPLE COMPUTER INSTEAD OF A SMARTPHONE BUT IT'S IT'S NOT A WEB BROWSER.  BUT THEN I THINK THE OTHER PIECE OF THIS THAT I WOULD SAY IS OUR OUR HOPE AND BELIEF IN THE EXPERIENCE THAT OTHER DISTRICTS HAVE SEEN WITH ZOOM IS THAT AS PARENTS GET MORE USED TO THE TECHNOLOGY THAT REDUCES THE NUMBER OF PARENTS THAT NEED TO CALL IN TO THE HOTLINE ON A DAILY BASIS. AND SO WHAT WHAT OUR HOPE IS IS THAT FOR PARENTS WHO DO NEED TO RELY ON THE HOTLINE, THIS WILL REDUCE THE WAIT TIMES FOR THEM SO THAT THEY CAN GET THROUGH TO SOMEBODY AND SPEAK TO A REPRESENTATIVE WHEN THEY NEED IT. OKAY. IT'S REALLY HELPFUL. YEAH.  UM, AND IF I JUST JUMP IN ON GO BACK ON A COUPLE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT COUNSELORS HAD SO WE JUST AND I DON'T LIKE THIS WORD BUT WE KIND OF PILOTED THIS ZOOM APP TO OUR S.Y. PROGRAM FOR THE SUMMER JUST TO KIND OF SEE HOW IT WOULD WORK, GET PEOPLE'S THOUGHTS AND WE'VE REALLY HAD REALLY GOOD FEEDBACK ON US.  I WAS TELLING DAN THE OTHER DAY I HAD A NEIGHBOR MARK WHOSE CHILD IS IN THE SWIPE PROGRAM SPECIAL NEEDS AND HE CALLED ME ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE AND HE WAS JUST TALKING SO ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT THIS APP JUST BEING ABLE TO KNOW WHERE HIS KID IS, YOU KNOW? SO IT'S HEARING THINGS LIKE THAT FROM PEOPLE FROM PARENTS SPECIFICALLY ESPECIALLY PARENTS USING THE APP AND LOVING IT. IT'S JUST REALLY IMPORTANT. IT'S REALLY GREAT TO HEAR AND CONSIDER AND BROUGHT UP ABOUT,  YOU KNOW, BUSSES ON YOU KNOW, THE WRONG SIDE OF STREETS PICKING UP AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. YOU KNOW I REALLY WANT TO SHOUT OUT OUR TRANSPORTATION OFFICERS WHO DAY IN AND DAY OUT ARE JUST ROUTING HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF KIDS. THEY KNOW THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS. SO SO WELL.  YOU KNOW, THEY'LL COME TO ME AND THEY'LL SAY WELL, YOU KNOW, THIS STUDENT CAN'T, YOU KNOW, GET PICKED UP OVER HERE. WHY ARE THEY GETTING PICKED UP OVER HERE? YOU KNOW, THEY'RE CROSSING A HIGHWAY, TRY TO GET TO THE OTHER SIDE AND THEY WILL GO IN AND THEY WILL REGRET THAT.  YOU KNOW, AND AS THIS APP IS USED IT WILL UPDATE ITSELF TO SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T GO TO THAT SIDE OF THE STREET.  SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT WE ARE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO.  BUT I REALLY JUST WANTED TO SHOW THE TRANSPORTATION OFFERS. THEY'RE AMAZING.  THEY WORK SO HARD AND THE AMOUNT OF KIDS AND THE AMOUNT OF WORK THEY DO IS JUST TRULY EXCEPTIONAL.  THANK YOU, CARLA AND I DO HAVE TO SAY THAT WHEN WE RELEASED THAT WE WERE DOING THIS HEARING WE DID I DID GET A MESSAGE FROM ONE OF THE PARENTS THAT IS CURRENTLY USING ZOOM BECAUSE OF THE SUMMER PROGRAM AND THEY HAD THE SAME SENTIMENT OF THAT IT'S IT'S A LOT BETTER AND THAT THEY'RE FEELING HOPEFUL FOR THE NEXT SCHOOL YEAR SO I'M EXCITED TO SEE HOW IT'S GOING TO WORK AND BEEPS WHEN PARENTS THIS SCHOOL YEAR AND JUST THANK YOU GUYS FOR IMPLEMENTING IT THANK YOU FOR INVESTING INTO THIS PROGRAM.  I'M EXCITED TO SEE HOW IT WORKS SO IF YOU'LL BE THERE ON FRIDAY YEAH COME FRIDAY LEARN MORE. THANK YOU.  BUT WITH THAT I WILL ALLOW YOU TO TO SIT IN THE IN THE AUDIENCE TO LISTEN TO OUR SECOND PANEL AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE AT THIS TIME.  I DO WANT TO CALL UP MR STEVE REYNOSO THE CHIEF GROWTH OFFICER FOR BUS PATROL WHERE WE FEEL COMFORTABLE JUST TO SAY PERFECT IS MY EYESIGHT IS NOT THAT GREAT. NO WORRIES.  AND YOU HAVE THE CLICKER WITH YOU. I DO. I DO.  OH, THANK YOU. THAT'S OKAY.  ALL RIGHT. IT'S ALL YOURS.  ALL RIGHT. MADAM PRESIDENT, MR CHAIR AND OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS COMING IN TO KNOW IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE TODAY.  I'M STEVE RANDAZZO, CHIEF GROWTH OFFICER OF BUS PETROLEUM ERICA.  WE ARE A PUBLIC SAFETY TECHNOLOGY COMPANY THAT IS FOCUSED ON THE SCHOOL BUS AND HAPPY TO BE HERE TODAY AS A SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT.  TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE TECHNOLOGY, THE PILOT PROGRAM AND PUBERTY.  TALK TO YOU ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON AROUND THE COUNTRY AND HAPPY TO ANSWER AS MANY QUESTIONS AS YOU MAY HAVE TODAY.  A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ME . I AM A FORMER PUBLIC SCHOOL TEACHER OUT IN THE SOUTH BRONX IN NEW YORK. I DID THAT FOR A FEW YEARS,  WENT TO GRAD SCHOOL WITH YOUR ESTEEMED COUNCIL PRESIDENT SO SHE GAVE ME A RUN FOR MY MONEY AND A LOT OF OUR POLICY CLASSES. BUT AFTER THAT I WENT BACK WHERE I'M FROM OUT OF NEW YORK, LONG ISLAND, THE OTHER SUFFOLK COUNTY.  I WAS A COUNTY OFFICIAL OUT THERE FOR FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS AND IN THAT TIME NEW YORK PASSED A LAW BACK IN 2019 ALLOWING THE USE OF THIS SCHOOL BUS STOP. OUR CAMERAS.  PEOPLE CALL THEM DIFFERENT STATES, CALL THEM DIFFERENT NAMES BUT THEY'RE ESSENTIALLY CAMERAS THAT GET AFFIXED TO THE OUTSIDE OF THE SCHOOL BUS THAT HELP SCHOOL DISTRICTS, LAW ENFORCEMENT COMMUNITY DRIVEN PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS.  BUS PATROL IS IS HAPPY TO BE PART OF MANY OF THOSE AROUND THE COUNTRY.  BUT WHAT ESSENTIALLY THE STOP ARM CAMERAS DO IS THEY DETECT WHEN A CAR ILLEGALLY PASSES A STOP SCHOOL BUS WHEN KIDS ARE GETTING ON AND OFF THE SCHOOL BUS WHEN THE RED LIGHTS ARE FLASHING AND THE STOP ARM IS OUT AND THEN THAT VIDEO GETS TRANSMITTED TYPICALLY TO LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT HAS THE AUTHORITY TO WRITE A TRAFFIC TICKET. AND IT'S THE IDEA THAT WE JUST DON'T STATION POLICE OFFICERS BEHIND I MEAN 750 SCHOOL BUSSES IT JUST NOT PRACTICAL TO INSTALL CAMERAS TO TO RATHER TO HAVE PHYSICAL POLICE OFFICERS TRAILING SCHOOL BUSSES BEFORE AND AND DURING THE SCHOOL ROUTE EVERY DAY. SO THIS IS A PLACE WHERE LOTS OF STATES AROUND THE COUNTRY HAVE HAVE DEEMED AUTOMATED ENFORCEMENT TO BE A PLACE THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. SO I NOW SERVE AS THE CHIEF GROWTH OFFICER OF BUS PATROL. WE ARE THE TOP SCHOOL BUS STOP ARM ENFORCEMENT CAMERA SERVICE PROVIDER IN THE COUNTRY. WE'RE ON ABOUT 3000 SCHOOL BUSSES ACROSS 16 STATES AND WE JUST JUST BY KIND OF JUST TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE NUMBERS.  OF ALL THE SCHOOL BUSSES THAT HAVE STOP ARM CAMERAS EQUIPPED ON THEM TODAY AROUND THE COUNTRY BUS PATROL IS ON ABOUT NINE OUT OF EVERY TEN OF THOSE BUSSES AROUND THE COUNTRY. SO REALLY PROUD OF THOSE PARTNERSHIPS THAT WE HAVE ALONG THE EAST COAST AND REALLY ACTUALLY HEADING OUT WEST AND MANY NEW STATES THAT HAVE MORE RECENTLY ADOPTED THE SCHOOL BUS STOP ARM CAMERA LEGISLATION. BUT THAT'S WHAT WE DO. OUR MISSION IS AND I THINK THERE ARE A COUPLE OF REASONS WHY I THINK A SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND COMMUNITIES GRAVITATE TO THIS TECHNOLOGY AND PARTICULARLY THE BUS PATROL PROGRAM AND OUR MISSION IS TO MAKE THE RIDE TO AND FROM SCHOOL SAFER FOR ALL KIDS. WE REALLY FEEL LIKE THIS IS A STUDENT SAFETY EQUITY ISSUE AS WELL AS A GENERAL PUBLIC SAFETY TRANSPORTATION SAFETY ISSUE BECAUSE EVEN WHEN YOU INTRODUCE STOP ARM CAMERAS TO A COMMUNITY PARENTS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND TRANSPORTATION ADVOCATES INVARIABLY ASK THE QUESTION WELL WHAT KID'S GOT TO STOP ARM CAMERA TECHNOLOGY AND WHICH ONES DIDN'T? AND THE WAY WE'VE REALLY ADDRESSED AND APPROACHED THIS THIS QUESTION IS EVERY BUS,  EVERY KID, EVERY CHILD'S SAFETY IS EQUALLY VALUED. EQUALLY IMPORTANT.  AND REALLY ASIDE FROM THE EQUITY ISSUE, IT'S REALLY THE SECRET SAUCE TO CHANGING DRIVER BEHAVIOR WHEN DRIVERS IN A COMMUNITY REALIZE IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S THAT BUS OR THE BUS AND THE OTHER YOU KNOW, AND THE OTHER PART OF TOWN IT'S REALLY THIS KIND OF IT'S HARD TO DO BUT IT'S REALLY THIS CONDITIONING OF DRIVERS MUCH LIKE WHEN YOU SEE AN OFFICER,  YOU KNOW, 100 YARDS DOWN THE ROAD IN THE HIGHWAY YOU TEND TO SLOW DOWN. YOU TEND TO BE ON YOUR BEST BEHAVIOR. OUR SENSE IS WHY NOT MAKE THAT SAME REACTION PRESENT IN THE AVERAGE DRIVER'S MIND WHEN THEY SEE A SCHOOL BUS IT'S LARGE, IT'S YELLOW.  IT'S DESIGNED TO BE SEEN REALLY FROM VERY FAR DISTANCES.  IT HAS REALLY FLASHING LIGHTS. IF SOMEONE SAYS I DIDN'T SEE THE BUS, I MIGHT ARGUE YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE REALLY BEEN PAYING ATTENTION OR MAYBE YOU WEREN'T CONDITIONED TO SEE THE BUS AS MUCH AS YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN.  SO WHAT WE HAVE NOW TODAY I TALKED ABOUT 30,000 SCHOOL BUSSES, 16 STATES, SOME OF THE LARGEST SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN THE COUNTRY AND A LOT THAT ARE CLOSE TO HOME HERE IN BOSTON.  WE'RE GOING LIVE ON EVERY SCHOOL BUS IN THE CITY OF PROVIDENCE FOR BACK TO SCHOOL JUST IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS. BRIDGEPORT, CONNECTICUT OF COURSE THAT THE THE THE PILOT IN PEABODY WHICH I'LL I'LL TALK ABOUT WE ALSO HAVE TWO EMERGING PILOTS THAT ARE COMING IN MASSACHUSETTS, ONE IN SALEM THAT THAT'LL BE LAUNCHING IN JUST A FEW WEEKS. AND WE ALSO HAVE A VERBAL COMMITMENT FROM WORCESTER WHO SAW A LOT OF THE PRESS AND PUBLICITY AND NOW WANTS TO DO A PILOT AS WELL. SO THAT SHOULD BE FORTHCOMING.  AND JUST AROUND THE COUNTRY SOME OF THE LARGEST SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN THE COUNTRY KIND OF COMPARABLE OR EVEN LARGER THAN THAN BYPASS PLACES LIKE PRINCE GEORGE'S COUNTY, MARYLAND, MONTGOMERY COUNTY, MARYLAND THAT'S IN THE D.C. SUBURBS. WE JUST WENT LIVE ACROSS ALL 950 BUSSES IN MIAMI-DADE COUNTY, FLORIDA PAST THE SCHOOL BUS STOP HOME CAMERA LAW JUST LAST YEAR.  AND WE'RE GOING LIVE IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY WHICH IS TAMPA ACTUALLY TODAY ALL 1100 SCHOOL BUSSES OUTFITTED WITH THE SCHOOL BUS STOP ON CAMPUS.  SO TODAY JUST SOME KEY MESSAGES I KIND OF ALLUDED TO THIS BUT ONE I WANT TO TALK TO FOLKS ABOUT THE PROBLEM WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THE STREETS HERE IN MASSACHUSETTS, WHAT'S HAPPENING AROUND THE COUNTRY,  ILLEGAL PASSING OF STOP SCHOOL BUSSES AND FRANKLY RECKLESS DRIVING IS AT AN ALL TIME HIGH . I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT COMMUNITY DRIVEN EFFORTS HERE IN THE COMMONWEALTH. THERE HAVE BEEN SOME FANTASTIC PARENT ADVOCATES AND COMMUNITY GROUPS SPROUTING UP CALLING FOR CHANGE AT THE STATE LEVEL AND SOME PILOT PROGRAMS THAT WE'RE NOW RUNNING THAT HAVE REALLY SHED TOO LIGHT SOME REALLY ALARMING DATA AROUND WHAT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING ON THE ROADS. AND THEN I'M HAPPY TO TO WALK YOU THROUGH A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE STATE LEGISLATION THAT IS STILL MAKING ITS WAY THROUGH THROUGH THE STATE HOUSE. IT'S NOW A4940 AND I'LL WALK YOU THROUGH A LITTLE BIT OF THAT IF WE HAVE TIME. SO STARTING WITH THE PROBLEM SO SCHOOL BUS DRIVERS ACTUALLY TAKE PART IN A SURVEY EVERY YEAR WHERE THEY ARE ASKED TO MANUALLY COUNT HOW MANY ILLEGAL PASSES HAPPEN WITH THEIR EYES USUALLY OVER THE COURSE OF A FEW DAYS AND I IMAGINE THAT THE BEEPS DRIVERS PARTICIPATE IN THIS SURVEY. IT'S A NATIONAL NONPARTIZAN SURVEY RUN BY AN ORGANIZATION CALLED NASDAQ UPS AND THEN THAT DATA GETS AGGREGATED AT THE STATE LEVEL AND THE NATIONAL LEVEL AND IT IS ESTIMATED THAT ILLEGAL SCHOOL BUS STOP HARM PASSES BY MOTORISTS HAPPENED OVER 45 MILLION TIMES A YEAR AROUND THE COUNTRY JUST A STAGGERING NUMBER AND THAT'S 45 MILLION TIMES A CHILD COULD BE SERIOUSLY INJURED, COULD LOSE HIS OR HER LIFE. A FAMILY TRANSFORMED FOREVER ITS ABSOLUTELY UNACCEPTABLE AND THIS IS REALLY ROBUST DATA. 90 98,000 SCHOOL BUS DRIVERS PRACTICE APPEARED IN THIS SURVEY SO IT'S THIS IS SOUND DATA. THE THING ABOUT THE DATA IS THE SCHOOL BUS DRIVERS ARE GENERALLY HAVE A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS TO DO THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE KEEPING THEIR EYES ON THE ROAD, MAKE SURE THAT THE KIDS ARE NOT ACTING UP.  SO WE ACTUALLY FEEL THAT THE CAMERA TECHNOLOGY SUGGESTS THAT THIS NUMBER MIGHT EVEN BE UNDERSTATED A BIT. BELIEVE IT OR NOT.  SO WHY IS THIS HAPPENING?  I'M NOT GOING TO THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE ROCKET SCIENCE HERE REALLY THIS THIS IS THE PRIMARY CAUSE PEOPLE ARE TEXTING AND DRIVING AND DISTRACTED MORE THAN EVER BEFORE.  OUR CARS ARE ALSO KIND OF BEING DESIGNED TO DISTRACT US. I MEAN NO OFFENSE TO ELON MUSK BUT OUR CARS ARE STARTING TO RESEMBLE SPACESHIPS SO REALLY HARD TO KIND OF KEEP YOUR EYES ON THE ROAD WHEN YOU'VE GOT SO MANY THINGS IN YOUR CAR DISTRACTING YOU.  AND THEN THERE ARE A LOT OF STUDIES OUT AND EVEN COMING FROM PLACES LIKE THE NEW YORK TIMES AND OTHERS THAT REALLY ARE OUT OF COVID.  THERE'S BEEN JUST MORE ERRATIC DRIVING, MORE RECKLESS DRIVING THAN EVER BEFORE. I THINK PEOPLE WERE COOPED UP AND I THINK THAT THAT HAD A TOLL ON PEOPLE'S MENTAL HEALTH AND I THINK THAT IT'S EVEN YEARS LATER TRANSLATED TO MORE AGGRESSIVE DRIVING.  AND THEN WHEN YOU HAVE WHEN YOU KIND OF OVERLAY THAT AGAINST IT'S REALLY THIS IS A DIFFICULT VIOLATION TO POLICE AND ENFORCE USING TRADITIONAL ENFORCEMENT YOU KIND OF HAVE THE PERFECT STORM OF JUST A VERY DANGEROUS SITUATION THAT'S EMERGED. SO LOVE DATA THIS IS ONE THAT COMES FROM PENNSYLVANIA. WE DID A PILOT PROGRAM IN A PLACE CALLED ALLENTOWN, PENNSYLVANIA.  THEY HAVE OVER 30,000 SCHOOL BUSSES IN THE STATE OF PENNSYLVANIA AND A FEW YEARS AGO BEFORE THEY PASSED THEIR STOP ARM CAMERA LAW OFFICERS ACROSS THE STATE ACROSS ALL SCHOOL DAYS, ACROSS ALL 30,000 SCHOOL BUSSES ISSUED ABOUT 660 ILLEGAL SCHOOL BUS PASSING TICKETS TO MOTORISTS. WE DID A PILOT PROGRAM IN ALLENTOWN, SMALL CITY ON JUST TWO SCHOOL BUSSES ACROSS JUST 47 SCHOOL DAYS AND THOSE TWO SCHOOL BUSSES CAPTURED 205 VIOLATIONS. AND WHAT I LIKE TO SAY IS THAT IS WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THE ROADS. SO WHEN PEOPLE SAY WELL HOW MANY HOW MANY TICKETS WERE ISSUED, HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT WHAT LIKE HOW OFTEN THIS IS HAPPENING? THE CHALLENGE IS TRADITIONAL ENFORCEMENT IS NOT CAPTURING WHAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THE ROADS. THE CAMERAS REALLY TELL YOU WHAT'S HAPPENING AND THE THE SECTION ON THE RIGHT REALLY SUGGESTS WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THE ROADS NOT ONLY IN PLACES LIKE ALLENTOWN BUT AROUND THE COUNTRY DID A PILOT PROGRAM IN A COUPLE DIFFERENT COUNTIES DOWN IN FLORIDA THEY HAVE COUNTY BASED SCHOOL DISTRICTS DUVAL COUNTY WHICH IS JACKSONVILLE, SANTA ROSA IS ON THE PANHANDLE. BREVARD IS ON THE SPACE COAST.  IF YOU IF YOU EVER GO TO CAPE CANAVERAL AND CATCH A CRUISE AND THEN HILLSBOROUGH IS TAMPA. MIAMI DADE OF COURSE IS MIAMI ALL ACROSS THE STATE OF FLORIDA DATA SUGGEST ANYWHERE BETWEEN 2 TO 5 ILLEGAL PASSES PER BUS PER DAY.  AN ABSOLUTELY STAGGERING NUMBER THAT GOT THE ATTENTION OF THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE LAST YEAR. I KNOW THAT POLITICS OUT IN FLORIDA CAN OFTENTIMES BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN MASSACHUSETTS, BUT REALLY THIS LAW KNOWS NO POLITICAL BOUNDARIES. THIS IS LEGAL AS THE CHAIRMAN MENTIONED 28 STATES. BLUE STATES, RED STATES, PURPLE STATES, CHILD SAFETY, STUDENT SAFETY REALLY KNOWS NO POLITICAL PARTY.  BUT IN A CONSERVATIVE STATE SUCH AS FLORIDA THIS PASSED NEARLY UNANIMOUSLY LAST YEAR AND NOW YOU HAVE COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICTS IMPLEMENTING THIS PROGRAM INTO THIS YEAR.  SO LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MASSACHUSETTS.  YOU HAVE WONDERFUL SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT HAVE BEEN ENGAGED IN THIS ISSUE. THERE HAS BEEN LEGISLATION PUSHED IN THE STATE HOUSE FOR WELL OVER A DECADE. THE HOPE IS THAT MAYBE THIS YEAR IT GETS DONE. IT'S ACTUALLY GOT SOME MOMENTUM AND I THINK THAT'S DUE TO THE COMMUNITY DRIVEN EFFORTS BY AGAIN, PARENTS, SCHOOL DISTRICTS, OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT PARTNERS IN PLACES LIKE PEABODY. SO PEABODY HAS A PARTNERSHIP WITH BUS PATROL. WE DIDN'T CHARGE THEM FOR THE TECHNOLOGY JUST TO BE ABLE TO COLLECT DATA SHARED WITH THE COMMUNITY AND THEN AND SHARE IT WITH AUDIENCES LIKE THIS BUT ALSO MEMBERS OF THE STATE LEGISLATURE.  SO WE WERE JUST INSTALLED ON TEN OF THEIR BUSSES AND FOR THE ENTIRE SCHOOL YEAR ROUGHLY EARLY SEPTEMBER TO MID-JUNE THOSE TEN SCHOOL BUSSES HAVE CAPTURED OVER 4000 VIOLATIONS IN JUST PEABODY ALONE.  SO THAT EQUATES TO ABOUT 2.4 VIOLATIONS PER BUS PER DAY IN PEABODY THAT GOT SOME ATTENTION A COUPLE OF NEWS OUTLETS THEY REPORTED ON IT AND PEABODY WAS VERY PUBLIC ABOUT IT. THEY WANTED PEOPLE TO KNOW BECAUSE THEY THINK THAT PARENTS PEOPLE WHO DROPPED THEIR KIDS OFF AT THE BUS STOP, THEY SEE IT, BUS DRIVERS SEE IT. BUT I THINK THE PUBLIC AT LARGE KIND OF KNOWS IT'S HAPPENING. BUT I THINK THAT WHAT I SEE IS THAT PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE HOW BAD THE PROBLEM ACTUALLY IS AND THE DATA REALLY TELLS US THAT SO AND AND OUR OUR PROGRAMS WE PROVIDE REALLY INCREDIBLE DATA ANALYTICS TO SCHOOL DISTRICTS SO THAT THEY CAN ACTUALLY HAVE LIKE KNOWLEDGE IS POWER NOW WITH THE DATA YOU CAN ACTUALLY MOVE BUS STOPS. YOU CAN ACTUALLY MAYBE CALL THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND STATION OFFICER THERE YOU CAN HAVE ROAD SIGNAGE AND OTHER EDUCATIONAL EFFORTS. SO WHAT WE DO IS LIKE JUST THIS IS JUST BUS PATROL BUT ON A MONTHLY BASIS OR EVEN MORE REGULAR THAN THAT WE PROVIDE THE TOP TICKETED LOCATIONS, THE HOTSPOTS IF YOU WILL AND THEN THAT ALLOWS THE SCHOOL TRANSPORTATION AND LEADERSHIP TO TO MAKE MORE THOUGHTFUL ROUTE PLANNING DECISIONS IN THE MONTHS AND EVEN YEARS AHEAD. SO WHAT PEABODY IS SEEING NOW IS REALLY THERE ARE SOME HOTSPOTS BUT I WOULD SAY GENERALLY AN EVEN DISTRIBUTION SO KIND OF A PROBLEM ALL ACROSS TOWN IF YOU WILL IS WHAT THE DATA SUGGESTING.  I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS ABLE TO BE PLAYED WE GOT THEIR PERMISSION BUT THIS IS SORT OF JUST I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN PLAY THIS HERE BUT THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF A COUPLE OF OF VIOLATIONS THAT WE SAW ON THE ROADS. I DON'T KNOW SO MAYBE YOU COULD PRESS PLAY ON THAT OR WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OUR OUR TECH SYSTEM.  IT'S UH HOW LET'S SEE IF I HAD IT ON MY LAPTOP.  OKAY, WELL, WE'LL SHARE THE VIDEOS FOR EVERYONE. THEY'RE THERE. THEY'LL KNOCK YOUR SOCKS OFF LIKE THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE DO . KIDS CROSSING THE STREET BECAUSE NOT EVERY KID GETS PICKED UP ON THE SAME SIDE OF WHERE THEIR HOUSES BY THE WAY, SOME KIDS JUST GET THEY GET DROPPED OFF AT THE BUS STOP BY A PARENT OR A NEIGHBOR OR A LOVED ONE. SOME KIDS ARE HANGING OUT, YOU KNOW, WHEREVER AT A PARK OR A STORE AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WALK ACROSS THE STREET OR RUN ACROSS THE STREET TO CATCH THE BUS. SO IT'S STAGGERING THE VIDEOS OF KIDS DIVING OUT OF THE ROAD. SO I SOMETIMES GET ASKED, WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT WHAT ARE THE STATISTICS ON DEATHS OR EVEN KIDS GETTING HIT MAYBE NOT DYING? WHAT I THINK IS SO UNDERREPORTED AND AND REALLY NOT SPOKEN ABOUT ENOUGH IS JUST THE TRAUMA OF THE CLOSE CALLS LIKE THINK ABOUT A KID HAVING TO DIVE OUT OF THE ROAD OR COME WITHIN SECONDS OF GETTING MAULED BY A CAR THAT DOESN'T SHOW UP IN A STATISTIC BUT THAT LIVES WITH THE CHILD REALLY FOREVER. SO THE TRAUMA IS NOT TO BE UNDERSTATED. SO NOW WE SEE THESE COMMUNITY BASED EFFORTS IN MASSACHUSETTS. LIKE I SAID, SALEM, WE MET WITH THE MAYOR AND A PARENT GROUP THERE LAW ENFORCEMENT THE SCHOOL TRANSPORTATION TEAM AND THEY'RE ALL ON BOARD.  SO SALEM, I MENTIONED WORCESTER HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH WITH BP'S WE HOPE TO BE ABLE TO IF THERE IS AN AGREEMENT IT WOULD BE A FREE PILOT OF COURSE NO CHARGE JUST TO BE ABLE TO SHARE THAT DATA WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THE COUNCIL AND MAYBE THE STATE LEGISLATURE TO SHOW FOLKS ACROSS THE STATE WHAT'S HAPPENING. I THINK THAT THAT WOULD DO A LOT OF GOOD. WE ARE WE'RE HAPPY TO BE KIND OF A HERE AT A MOMENT'S NOTICE IF YOU'LL HAVE US. BUT I THINK THROUGH THE DATA AND JUST IF I CAN SPEAK AS A SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT, SOMEONE WHO KIND OF DOES THIS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY MEETS WITH MEMBERS OF STATE LEGISLATURES, I THINK WHEN THE DATA GETS PRESENTED TO THEM PEOPLE WHO ARE EMPOWERED WITH MAKING THESE DECISIONS AT THE STATE LEVEL IT DOES CHANGE SOME MINDS EVEN PEOPLE WHO MAYBE HAVE COMPETING PRIORITIES OR OTHER INTERESTS THE DATA IS REALLY TOUGH TO IGNORE.  SO WHAT WE HAVE ARE SOME LEGISLATIVE EFFORTS AND THERE'VE BEEN LOTS OF NEWS CLIPS LIKE THINK LET'S SEE HERE WE HAVE JUST ALL THE LOCAL NEWS CBS, FOX AND NBC, ABC ETC. THAT THAT HAVE BEEN COVERING THIS ISSUE NOW A LOT.  BUT JUST TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT LEGISLATIVE EFFORTS, WE MENTIONED THE 28 STATES SO WE KNOW SOMETIMES IN POLITICS IT TAKES A TRAGEDY. UNFORTUNATELY TOO TO SEE A FLURRY OF POLITICAL ACTIONS KIND OF JUST THE NATURE OF OF OF OF OUR POLITICS. BUT REALLY WHERE THIS CAME TO I GUESS WHAT YOU MIGHT CALL A BEACHHEAD MOMENT WAS IN INDIANA BACK IN 2018 THREE CHILDREN FROM THE SAME FAMILY WERE CROSSING THE STREET TO GET ON THE SCHOOL BUS AND LOST THEIR LIFE TO ONE OF THESE INCIDENTS . JUST JUST AN UNSPEAKABLE TRAGEDY THAT AS A FATHER OF TWO I CAN'T EVEN IT'S LIKE HARD TO UTTER THAT THAT COULD HAPPEN TO A FAMILY EXPECTING YOUR KID TO GET TO SCHOOL SAFELY AND NOT RETURN.  BUT WHAT WE SAW FROM THAT WAS A NATIONAL LEVEL CALL FOR CHANGE THAT NEW YORK, THE US NATIONAL TRANSPORTATION SAFETY BOARD GOT INVOLVED.  THEY RECOMMENDED TO ALL STATES TO PASS THE SCHOOL BUS STOP ARM CAMERA LAWS TO LEGALIZE THE ABILITY TO USE THESE STOP FORM CAMERAS TO HELP ENFORCE OUR TRAFFIC LAWS BETTER AND THAT'S WHAT LED TO NOW 28 STATES TO LEGALIZE THE USE OF THE STOP ROOM CAMERAS. SO THIS PAST YEAR WE HAD FLORIDA WAS 27 LAST YEAR AND THEN OREGON BECAME STATE 28 THIS YEAR AND YOU COULD SEE A LOT CONCENTRATED ON THE EAST COAST BUT CERTAINLY NOT EXCLUSIVELY YOU KNOW, IF I COULD ZOOM IN IF I COULD BUT I JUST CALL OUT YOU KNOW, NEW YORK HAS IT, RHODE ISLAND HAS IT, CONNECTICUT HAS IT, MAINE HAS IT. SO THE HOPE WOULD BE THAT WE CAN WE CAN SEE SOME ACTION IN MASSACHUSETTS BECAUSE I THINK THE DISTRICTS AND COMMUNITIES AND PARENTS REALLY, REALLY WANT THIS TECHNOLOGY ON THEIR KIDS BUSSES AND THAT'S WHERE WE ARE TODAY EACH FOR 940 IT'S GOTTEN FURTHER THAN IT'S EVER GOTTEN IN THE STATEHOUSE. I AM PROUD TO SAY THAT SO AND I THINK THAT WAS DUE TO A LOT OF MEMBERS OF THE BOSTON DELEGATION. SO REP HONAN HAS BEEN A HUGE CHAMPION AND AND HE WAS A ONE OF THE PRINCIPAL SPONSORS AND ALSO HELPED GET IT REPORTED OUT OF THE HOUSE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE. I'M GOING TO BUTCHER HIS LAST NAME BUT THE WAYS AND MEANS CHAIR AARON LEWITT HELPED TO SHEPHERD IT OUT OF WAYS AND MEANS WHICH IS NO EASY TASK IN THE STATE LEGISLATURE AND THEN REP MIKE MORAN ALSO HELPED TO SHEPHERD IT AS THE HOUSE MAJORITY LEADER. OF COURSE TO GET IT ENGROSSED IN THE HOUSE. SO IT IS FULLY PASSED IN THE HOUSE AND NOW IT EVEN THOUGH WE'RE IN THE FORMAL SESSION IS OVER THERE IS STILL A WORLD OF POSSIBILITY WHERE IT IS PASSED DURING INFORMAL SESSION SO IT'S SITTING IN THE SENATE WAYS AND MEANS COMMITTEE AWAITING ACTION BUT JUST JUST SOME HIGHLIGHTS ABOUT THE LAW AND AGAIN I'M NOT THE POLICYMAKER BUT WHAT I SEE COMMUNITIES REALLY APPRECIATE AROUND THE STATE, AROUND STATES AROUND THE COUNTRY THAT HAVE THIS LAW IS PERMISSIVE LANGUAGE. THIS IS NOT A MANDATE. THIS IS NOT AN UNFUNDED MANDATE. THIS IS SIMPLY LANGUAGE AUTHORIZING COMMUNITY BASED PROGRAMS TO TO BE CREATED WHEN CITIES AND TOWNS PARTNER WITH THEIR LOCAL SCHOOL DISTRICT AND LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT TO STAND UP LOCAL PROGRAMS SO COMPLETELY PERMISSIVE IF IT'S NOT IT'S MAYBE THIS ISN'T FOR EVERY COMMUNITY IT'S THIS IS NOT BEING FORCED ON ANY COMMUNITY TO DO THIS.  LET'S SEE I GUESS JUST A FEW MORE AND THEN AND THEN I'LL BE HAPPY TO TAKE AS MANY QUESTIONS AS YOU HAVE AGAIN. BUT AGAIN, THIS IS A FIRST AND FOREMOST A PROGRAM AT LEAST FROM BUS PATROL'S PERSPECTIVE AROUND STUDENT SAFETY EQUITY EVERY BUS, EVERY CHILD YOUR YOUR ZIP CODE , WHAT PART OF TOWN YOU'RE FROM, WHAT BUS YOU TAKE SHOULD NOT DETERMINE YOUR LEVEL OF SAFETY. THAT'S OUR MANTRA. WE CALL THEM FULL FLEET PARTNERSHIPS. SO I DO HOPE THAT ONE DAY THERE'S A WORLD WHERE ALL 750 BEEPERS BUSSES HAS IS EQUIPPED WITH THE STOP ROAD CAMERA SYSTEM THAT THAT HELPS TO HOLD DRIVERS ACCOUNTABLE WHO WOULD ENDANGER A CHILD'S LIFE.  THERE ARE PROGRAMS THERE'S THERE'S REALLY NOT ONE VENDOR THAT DOES THIS BUS PATROL IS CERTAINLY THE LARGEST AROUND THE COUNTRY BUT CERTAINLY NOT A ONE VENDOR TYPE PROPOSITION AND SCHOOL DISTRICTS HAVE ARRAY AN ARRAY OF VENDORS TO CHOOSE FROM. THEY CAN BUY STOP ARM CAMERAS AND DO THE PROGRAMS THEMSELVES OR THEY CAN PARTNER IN A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP WAY WHICH IS WHAT BUS PATROL SPECIALIZES IN AND WE TAKE CARE OF ALL OF THE REALLY ALL THE ADMINISTRATIVE WORK THAT IT WOULD BE MORE OF A COST BURDEN ON THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. SO INSTEAD OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WATCHING HOURS OF VIDEO WE HAVE AN AIR ENGINE THAT DETECTS THE STOP BURN VIOLATIONS AND TRANSMITS THOSE VIDEOS DIRECTLY TO LAW ENFORCEMENT SECURELY OVER THE CLOUD. WE EVEN SUPPORT IT WHEN PERMITTED THE ABILITY TO MAIL THE TICKET NOT NOT MAKE THE LAW ENFORCEMENT DECISION BUT JUST THE MAILING AND PRINTING WHICH CAN GET PRETTY PRICEY. SO WE KIND OF RUN A TURNKEY END TO END SERVICE THAT BASICALLY PUTS ALL THE CAPITAL RISK ON BUS PATROL. WE ACTUALLY OUTFIT ALL THE BUSSES FOR FOR FREE SO BECAUSE THE VIDEO SEEMS TO BE DISABLED HERE I WON'T PLAY IT BUT I THERE IS A VIDEO SHOWING HOW THE STOP ARM CAMERA TECHNOLOGY WORKS TO DETECT THE STOP ON VIOLATIONS. BUT AGAIN THERE'S CHECKS AND BALANCES. WE SEND THE VIDEO TO LAW ENFORCEMENT SECURELY AND THEN THEY USE THEIR INDEPENDENT DISCRETIONARY AUTHORITY TO DECIDE WHETHER A MOTORIST GETS A VIOLATION OR NOT MAILED TO THEM.  AND THEN I'LL JUST END WITH THE REALLY THE PROUDEST STATISTIC OF ALL AND AGAIN, I LOVE BEING IN THE WEEDS ABOUT THE DATA WE'RE ON 30,000 SCHOOL BUSSES ACROSS 16 STATES. OUR DATA IN THESE IN THESE LARGE PROGRAMS SUGGEST THAT IT'S THE LOWEST FORM OF RECIDIVISM IN ALL OF AUTOMATED ENFORCEMENT LIKE YOU'VE PROBABLY HEARD OF RED LIGHT CAMERAS OR SPEED CAMERAS THEY'RE NOT HERE IN THE COMMONWEALTH BUT THEY'RE IN OTHER STATES SCHOOL BUS STOP OUR CAMERAS THAT ARE EQUIPPED WITH A BUS PATROL PROGRAM UNDER 10% OF FOLKS WHO EVER GET ONE OF THESE TICKETS BREAKS THE LAW EVER AGAIN. SO WE'RE JUST REALLY PROUD OF THE BEHAVIORAL CHANGE THAT THESE PROGRAMS COME WITH WHEN THEY'RE DONE RESPONSIBLY AND IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE COMMUNITY. AND WE HOPE TO ONE DAY BE ABLE TO SERVE EVERY STUDENT RIDER IN AND IN BOSTON.  SO WITH THAT THANK YOU, STEVE. THANK YOU.  THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT PRESENTATION AND FOR EDUCATING ME ON THE WORK THAT YOU ARE DOING. DEFINITELY HIGHLIGHT A LOT OF THE REASONS WHY I AM PUSHING FOR THIS AND HOPEFULLY WE GET TO DO THIS. I DO WANT TO GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MY COLLEAGUES TO TO ASK YOU SOME QUESTIONS STARTING WITH COUNCILOR . MADAM PRESIDENT LOUIJEUNE THANK YOU MR CHAIR AND THANK YOU STEVE. IT'S GREAT TO HAVE YOU HERE. SURE.  POLICY PROFESSORS WOULD BE HAPPY TO EXCHANGE BUT I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING. I THINK THE DATA YOU PRESENTED IS REALLY HELPFUL TO SORT OF HELP SITUATE IN THE IMPORTANCE OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING. BUT EVEN JUST LIKE THE HUMAN STORIES BEHIND IT OF COURSE ARE REALLY TRAGIC IN OUR STUDENTS DESERVE TO BE SAFE WHILE RIDING SCHOOL BUSSES. CAN I ASK HOW THIS TECHNOLOGY WOULD INTERACT OR SHOULD INTERACT WITH THE CURRENT TECHNOLOGY THAT WE HAD ON THE PREVIOUS PANEL HEARD DAN AND CARLA TALK ABOUT THE LATEX. HOW WOULD THERE BE INTERACTION BETWEEN THOSE TECHNOLOGIES? ARE THEY COMPLEMENTARY? WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? YEAH, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION AND PRESIDENT SO I WOULD SAY THEY'RE COMPLEMENTARY . MY UNDERSTANDING AT LEAST BASED ON HEARING WHAT THE DISTRICT HAD TO SAY IS IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THE THE CAMERAS ON ON THE BUSSES THE INTERIOR CAMERAS ARE NECESSARILY MONITORING ALL THE ROWS OF STUDENTS LIKE THE BEHAVIOR FIGHTS BULLYING. IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE AN OUTWARD FACING CAMERA AND A CAMERA THAT'S ON THE BUS DRIVER . WHAT SO WHAT WE DO IS WE EQUIP IT TO THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUS LICENSE PLATE READING CAMERAS THAT ARE ENABLED THROUGH AN AIR ENGINE THAT WE DEVELOPED BACK IN 2017. AND WHEN THE STOP ARM IS OUT AND KIDS ARE GETTING ON AND OFF THAT TECHNOLOGY WHEN A CAR ILLEGALLY PASSES THE SCHOOL BUS. SO IT'S IT'S REALLY INTERACTING WITH THE THE THE CAMERAS THAT THE BUSSES HAVE TODAY AS ANOTHER SERVICE, IF YOU WILL BUS PATROL IS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE LARGEST VIDEO SOLUTIONS PROVIDER FOR INTERIOR CAMERAS AS WELL. AND WHAT WE DO IS BECAUSE WE DO THESE FULL FLEET PROGRAMS AND WE PUT A LARGE DVR ON THE BUS IT'S ABOUT A TWO TERABYTE DVR BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE ABLE TO HOLD SAY 30 DAYS WORTH OF VIDEO. WE ACTUALLY PROVIDE FREE INTERIOR CAMERAS TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ACROSS EVEN VERY LARGE FLEETS. WE HAVE A SCHOOL BUS FLEET LARGER THAN 5000 SCHOOL BUSSES WHERE BECAUSE THEY DID THE STOP ARM CAMERA PROGRAM THERE'S SORT OF LIKE AN ECONOMY OF SCALE FOR THE DVR. SO WE WE GIVE THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT WE SERVE AND AGAIN NO UPCHARGE NO FINE PRINT FREE INTERIOR CAMERAS JUST FOR DOING THE PROGRAM. THANK YOU EVER QUESTION ABOUT YOU KNOW YOU TALK ABOUT HOW YOU DON'T DO POLICY ALTHOUGH I KNOW YOU DO DO POLICIES BUT HOW WHAT THIS ENDS UP LOOKING LIKE SO WHAT BASICALLY YOU'RE ASKING FOR OR SEEKING BEFORE THE LEGISLATURE I HAD GOOD LUCK IS THE ABILITY TO ALLOW US TO HAVE THESE CAMERAS THAT THAT ENFORCEMENT.  HAVE YOU SEEN IN OTHER JURISDICTIONS AND I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG BACK THE DATA GOES WHERE ENFORCEMENT IS AS YOU PUT IT AND I THINK YOU PUT IT SQUARELY A LOT OF IT IS ABOUT HOW ARE WE CHANGING AND A LOT ABOUT POLICY SHOULD BE ABOUT HOW ARE WE CHANGING HUMAN BEHAVIOR AND THAT CAN HAPPEN THROUGH JUST ENFORCEMENT AND TICKETS.  THERE IS A STEP THAT COULD COME AFTER THAT RIGHT WHERE OUTSIDE OF THE ENFORCEMENT YOU DO THEN GET POLICY CHANGE AND HAVE YOU SEEN JURISDICTIONS TAKE YOU KNOW THE DATA AND THE INFORMATION FROM THE ENFORCEMENT THAT'S BANNERS OUT OF BUS WITHDRAWALS, DATA AND MONITORING AND ALL OF THAT AND THEN TRANSFER THAT INTO SOME SORT OF POLICY LIKE HAS THERE BEEN A NEXT STEP AS A RESULT OF WHAT YOU'RE PROVIDING TO SCHOOL DISTRICTS ALL THE TIME? SO FIRST I AM NOT THE POLICYMAKER BUT HAPPY TO OFFER SUGGESTIONS.  BUT YEAH, FIRST I THINK IT STARTS WITH EDUCATION REALLY EVEN BEFORE A PROGRAM IS LAUNCHED I WOULD SAY ON THE FRONT END THE THE BEST PROGRAMS ARE COMMUNITY DRIVEN. NO WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE IT FEEL LIKE ANYONE GOT A LIGHT SWITCH TURNED ON THEM AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THERE'S LOTS OF TICKETS BEING MAILED TO PEOPLE EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE BREAKING THE LAW, THE CHANGE MANAGEMENT MANAGING THE COMMUNITY SENTIMENT IS REALLY IMPORTANT SO I LIKE TO SAY IT SHOULD ALMOST FEEL LIKE YOU WERE LIVING UNDER A ROCK IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW THIS PROGRAM WAS COMING SO USUALLY LIKE STATE LAWS WILL ACTUALLY ENSHRINE THINGS LIKE A DAY WARNING PERIOD. SO FOR THE FIRST 30 DAYS A NEW COMMUNITY WANTS TO LAUNCH THIS NOBODY EVEN THOUGH YOU BROKE THE LAW YOU GET A WARNING TICKET IN THE MAIL AND, YOU DO PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENTS, YOU DO ONGOING EDUCATION ON THE BACK END. WHAT I'VE SEEN THOUGH ONCE PROGRAMS GO LIVE IS THAT PEOPLE DO BREAK THE LAW EVEN THOUGH YOU KNOW YOU DO THESE EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS AND MOURNING PERIODS. BUT WHERE I'VE SEEN THE POLICY REALLY KICK IN ON THE BACK END IS ONE REALLY JUST BEING ABLE TO USE OTHER METHODS BESIDES THE ENFORCEMENT TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE. LIKE I'VE SEEN COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE MOVED SCHOOL BUS STOPS, I'VE SEEN COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE MADE SURE THAT THE TOP TICKETED LOCATIONS IN THEIR COMMUNITY THAT YOU MIGHT ACTUALLY HAVE OTHER TYPES OF DETERRENTS THAT ARE KIND OF SITUATED IN LIKE A LIKE AN ACTUAL POLICE CAR, MAYBE A STATION A POLICE CAR THERE I'VE SEEN ROAD SIGNAGE.  I'VE SEEN DIFFERENT EDUCATIONAL NUDGES. YOU CAN EVEN SAY A POLICE CAR EVEN IF IT WASN'T AN OFFICER IN THERE KIND OF CREATES A DETERRENT EFFECT. SO A LOT OF COMMUNITY DRIVEN STRATEGIES AS A RESULT OF THE DATA BUT ONLY THROUGH REALLY THE THE THE THE KIND OF FULL FLEET ENFORCEMENT YOU KIND OF GET A FULL PICTURE OF WHAT IS HAPPENING ON EACH SCHOOL BUS STOP ACROSS THE COMMUNITY.  THANK YOU I JUST I WAS AT A AN EVENT YESTERDAY GARRISON TROTTER NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND THEY ARE THEY ARE PUSHING FOR A LOT OF THE CHANGES THAT YOU MENTIONED THEY WERE ON THE FIRST DAY OF SCHOOL THEY WANT THEY WANT POLICE OFFICERS THERE. THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, BUS STOPS ARE BEING BUILT, BUS STOPS ARE BEING MOVED AND LIKE WHAT YOU JUST SAID, I THINK THAT THERE'S A LOT OF THERE ARE SOME MECHANISMS FOR THAT TO HAPPEN ANECDOTALLY VIA ANECDOTES LIKE PEOPLE SHARING INFORMATION AND THE WAY THAT CIVIC ARE OFTEN GIVING US INFORMATION AND THEN WE ADVOCATE BUT I DO SEE THE VALUE OF HAVING A DATA DRIVEN ENFORCEMENT PROCESS THAT DOES A LOT OF THAT WORK HELPS US DO A LOT OF THAT WORK. SO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND FOR YOUR TESTIMONY BEFORE THE COUNCIL . THANK YOU.  THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. COUNCILOR FITZGERALD THANK YOU, CHAIR JUST ONE QUESTION AND I ASK THIS OF WHOEVER USUALLY COMES IN FRONT OF BAIL FOR ANY NUMBER OF REASONS BUT IN TRANSPARENCY SAKE WHAT IS THE COUNTERPOINT TO WHENEVER YOU TRY TO ENACT THIS? WHAT IS THE ARGUMENT TYPICALLY AGAINST SO WE CAN BE AWARE OF WHAT MIGHT BE COMING AND EVEN NO MATTER HOW GOOD ANY IDEA IS RIGHT THERE'S ALWAYS SOMEBODY SAYS HERE'S I DON'T WANT IT. IS THERE ANY ARGUMENT THAT'S BEEN GIVEN IN THE OTHER PLACES YOU'VE IMPLEMENTED THAT THAT TO A DEGREE AND WHAT IS THAT ARGUMENT? YEAH, IT'S A GREAT QUESTION. SO LOOK, I MEAN THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST NOT CAMERA PEOPLE AND I THINK THAT'S A REASONABLE POSITION TO HAVE IF YOU JUST DON'T THINK THAT A CAMERA SHOULD BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THE ABILITY FOR THE COMMUNITY TO WRITE A TRAFFIC TICKET NOW IN A PLACE LIKE BOSTON YOU MIGHT I MIGHT SAY THAT YOU WALK OUT INTO A CITY STREET VERY LIKELY THAT YOU'RE ON CAMERA SOMEWHERE, A SCHOOL STORING DOORBELL, ETC. SO THERE'S IN URBAN CENTERS PROBABLY LESSER OF AN EXPECTATION OF PRIVACY ON ON ON A GIVEN STREET.  BUT THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO FEEL THAT JUST THEY'RE NOT CAMERA PEOPLE AND EVEN IF THE DATA SUGGEST THAT IT'S DONE EQUITABLY OR IF THE PROGRAM DETERS BEHAVIOR, THEY'RE THEY'RE JUST SORT OF PHILOSOPHICALLY AGAINST THE CAMERA.  I THINK YOU SEE THAT IN COMMUNITIES. BUT I THINK THAT THE DIRECTION WE'RE SEEING IS A MUCH MORE OPENNESS TO LEVERAGING TECHNOLOGY. SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE HARDENED FOLKS WHO MAY BE TEN OR 15 OR 20 YEARS AGO WE'RE NOT CAMERA PEOPLE NOW ARE SORT OF APPRECIATING THAT THIS CAN BE DONE IN A RESPONSIBLE WAY WITH CHECKS AND BALANCES AND OVERSIGHT. AND SO I THINK SOME OF THOSE NAYSAYERS ARE ARE SORT OF SOFTENING A BIT. AND THEN I WOULD SAY WHERE AND SO BUS PATROL DOESN'T HAVE THIS PROBLEM BUT I WOULD SAY WE'RE NOT THE ONLY VENDOR THIS IDEA OF WHO GETS THE TECHNICAL EDGING AND ARE YOU CHERRY PICKING SO BOSTON POPS HAS 750 BUSSES BE A MUCH DIFFERENT CONVERSATION IF I SAID WE'RE JUST GOING TO PICK THE 20 SCHOOL BUSSES THAT MAYBE HAVE THE MOST VIOLATIONS THEN YOU START TO HAVE PARENTS WHO ARE LIKE MAYBE MY CHILD HAS SPECIAL NEEDS OR MY CHILD JUST BECAUSE MY CHILD DOESN'T GET PICKED UP ON THE MOST CROWDED INTERSECTION DOESN'T MEAN THAT HE OR SHE ISN'T DESERVING OF A HEIGHTENED LEVEL OF SAFETY. SO WHEN A COMMUNITY DOES THIS IF THEY DON'T DO A FULL FLEET I THINK THAT THERE ARE HOLES THAT CAN BE POKED AROUND THE SAFETY EQUITY AGREED. I'D LOVE TO SEE IF THERE WAS ANY DATA ON IN THE OTHER CITIES OR COUNTIES THAT YOU'VE IMPLEMENTED THIS OF WHERE THE MOST TRAFFIC VIOLATIONS OCCUR JUST SO THAT WE CAN SEE OR PREDICT RIGHT AND GET AHEAD MAYBE GET AHEAD OF RATE WHETHER IT'S MORE URBAN CAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT'S DEMOGRAPHICS ANYTHING RIGHT THAT WE CAN SCROLL THROUGH THAT DATA AND SAY HOW CAN WE GET AHEAD OF PRIORITIES WHERE WE NEED TO IMPLEMENT OTHER SORT OF FACTORS THAT COULD FACTOR INTO THE SAFETY OF OF STUDENTS GETTING TO AND FROM SCHOOL AND TRAFFIC SAFETY IN GENERAL. BUT YEAH, I THINK IT'S HIGH TIME WE IMPLEMENT SOMETHING LIKE THIS AND VERY MUCH SUPPORTIVE SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND AND THE EDUCATION YOU GAVE US HERE TODAY. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU JEFF THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNSELOR.  COUNSELOR CLARA ZAPATA THANK YOU CHAIR AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS. THIS IS REALLY ALL JUST SO FASCINATING. IT'S DEMONSTRATIVE OF HOW TECHNOLOGY CAN HELP SAVE LIVES AND CAN HELP GOVERNMENTS AND BUREAUCRACIES WORK BETTER SO VERY MUCH APPRECIATE IT. WE TALKED ABOUT RECKLESS DRIVING OF OTHERS AND THE CAMERAS OF PEOPLE PASSING BY THAT STORY THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT WITH THE THREE KIDS. IT'S JUST SO HEARTBREAKING AND YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THERE I HAVEN'T LOOKED AND SO THIS IS JUST ANECDOTAL BUT THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES THAT NEWS NEWS HAS BEEN BROKEN ABOUT DRIVERS OF THESE BUSSES AND KIDS GETTING AND ALL OF THAT.  AND SO EARLIER I BROUGHT UP HOW WE HAD DOORDASH GRUBHUB COME IN HERE I THINK IT WAS JULY 9TH AND TALK ABOUT HOW THEY'RE NOT INSTITUTING ANY SORT OF TELEMATICS THAT TRACKS THEIR DRIVER'S BEHAVIOR AND I REALLY DIDN'T APPRECIATE THEIR ANSWER. I THOUGHT THAT IT WAS LACKING JUST FOR THE RECORD. BUT I THINK THAT THIS IS A WAY TO TO HELP THAT. BUT THEN ALSO, YOU KNOW, IN THE INSTANCE WHERE SOME OF OUR DRIVERS ARE IN A TOUGH SITUATION OR FOR WHATEVER REASON THEY'RE DRIVING ERRATICALLY, I THINK THIS COULD BE PRETTY USEFUL. HAVE YOU LOOKED AT ANY DATA AND TRACKED SOME OF THE THE BUS DRIVERS BEHAVIOR USING TELEMATICS? DOES YOUR SOFTWARE DO THAT? I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GPS AND ALL OF THAT AND CAMERAS BUT COULD YOU JUST TALK TO ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT? SURE. SO WHAT I LIKE TO SAY IS AND I'M AGING MYSELF A LITTLE BIT BUT THE SCHOOL BUS HASN'T REALLY CHANGED A WHOLE LOT SINCE I WAS GOING TO SCHOOL AND THE SCHOOL BUS HASN'T REALLY CHANGED A WHOLE LOT FROM WHEN MY PARENTS WERE GOING TO SCHOOL. SO I THINK REALLY THE SCHOOL BUS IS SORT OF RIPE FOR DISRUPTION RIGHT NOW.  THE TECHNOLOGY IS OUT THERE AND WITH THE WILL AND THE RESOURCES WE CAN TURN ALL OF OUR SCHOOL BUSSES INTO SMART BUSSES. BELIEVE IT OR NOT THERE ARE OVER HALF A MILLION SCHOOL BUSSES THAT TAKE OUR KIDS TO SCHOOL EACH AND EVERY DAY AROUND THE COUNTRY. THAT'S 26 MILLION KIDS TAKE THE SCHOOL BUS TO AND FROM SCHOOL EVERY DAY. IT'S THE MOST WIDELY FORMED USE FORM OF MASS TRANSPORTATION IN THE WORLD.  SO THE SHORT ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION THOUGH IS IS YES, ABSOLUTELY YES. THE THE TECHNOLOGIES CAN BE INTEGRATED TO DO THINGS LIKE TELEMATICS TRACKING STUDENT PICKUP TIMES.  I SEE A LOT OF PARENTS THESE DAYS WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR KIDS WEAR A BOARDED THE BUS THAT'S ANOTHER ONE LIKE THE STUDENT COUNTER. YOU KNOW YOU COULD HAVE A KID WHO GETS DROPPED OFF OR YOU KNOW, DOESN'T ACTUALLY FIND HIS OR HER WAY ONTO THE BUS OR MAYBE GETS OFF IN THE WRONG STOP. SO ALL OF THAT IS PART AND PARCEL WITH SYSTEMS THAT CAN BE LEVERAGED TO MAKE THE SCHOOL BUS RIDE MORE EFFICIENT, MORE COST EFFICIENT. BY THE WAY, I MEAN YOU EVEN TALK ABOUT THINGS LIKE FUEL EFFICIENCY. THERE ARE ELECTRIC BUSSES THAT ARE NOW COMING ROLLING OUT IN THE STREETS. THERE ARE FEDERAL GRANTS THAT ARE BEING MADE AVAILABLE FOR ELECTRIC SCHOOL BUSSES BUT TELEMATICS IS IS HUGE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE.  AS FOLKS MENTIONED IN THE PREVIOUS PANEL, IF YOU'RE A PARENT AND YOU'VE GOT TO GET TO WORK AND YOU KNOW THE SCHOOL BUS FOR WHATEVER REASON IS LATE 10 MINUTES, 20 MINUTES, 30 MINUTES AND YOUR LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON YOU GETTING TO WORK BUT YOUR KID CAN'T BE LEFT AT THE SCHOOL BUS. YOU'RE IN SORT OF A LOSE LOSE SITUATION.  SO THE TECHNOLOGY THAT CAN BE LEVERAGED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT BUS GETS THERE FASTER AND IT'S USING THE MOST EFFICIENT ROUTE USING THE MOST EFFICIENT FUEL ECONOMY BUT ALSO PROVIDING THE PARENTS WITH THAT TRANSPARENCY FOR FOR WHEN THE SCHOOL BUS IS ACTUALLY GETTING THERE AND PICKING UP MY KID IS AVAILABLE AND THEN AGAIN ALL OF THAT CAN BE TRANSLATED TO OTHER FLEETS WHETHER IT'S THE YOU KNOW, GIG FOOD DELIVERY SERVICES TRUCKING FLEET IT'S ALL BASED OFF OF THE SAME TECHNOLOGY. SO TO HEAR THAT AND I HEAR ANECDOTALLY AS WELL I MEAN BECAUSE NOT EVERY DELIVERY WORKER IS EVEN WRITING A CAR SOMETIMES IT'S EVEN A BIKE AND THE AMOUNT OF DELIVERY WORKERS WHO ARE GETTING HIT BY CARS AND IN BIKE LANES IS ALSO EQUALLY UNACCEPTABLE.  THANK YOU FOR THAT ANSWER AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR YOUR ADVOCACY UP AT THE HOUSE. HAPPY TO WRITE A LETTER OF SUPPORT. I WON'T SPEAK FOR MY OTHER COLLEAGUES BUT IT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO GET DONE DURING INFORMAL SESSION AND TO ECHO THE MADAM PRESIDENT'S WORDS, GOOD LUCK BUT WE'LL ALL BE THERE TO HELP PUSH IT ALONG AS MUCH AS WE CAN. BUT I AM AGAIN FASCINATED WITH THIS TELEMATICS IDEA OF BEING ABLE TO TRACK SPEED,  ACCELERATION, BRAKING, SHARP TURNS, ALL OF THAT. SO IF YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR SOFTWARE DOES WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT INSTALLING THAT TO OUR FLEETS AND OTHER FLEETS ACROSS THE CITY OF BOSTON ONLY BECAUSE THEN WE COULD USE IT TO INCENTIVIZE GOOD BEHAVIOR WITH OUR DRIVERS SO WE COULD LOOK AT DRIVER BEHAVIOR ANALYTICS AND YOU KNOW IF YOU ARE A GOOD DRIVER, IF YOU'RE A SAFE DRIVER WE HAVE THE PROOF RIGHT? WE CAN GIVE THEM BONUSES OR WHATEVER IT IS THAT THAT WE CAN DO. BUT I THINK IT WOULD JUST INCENTIVIZE GOOD BEHAVIOR AND YEAH, I THINK THIS IS AN EMERGING FIELD AND LOOK FORWARD TO THE WORK THAT'S HAPPENING AT THE CITY LEVEL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK. PLEASE LET US KNOW WE CAN BE HELPFUL AND THAT'S IT FOR ME . THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR STEVE AGAIN THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION YOU YOU BROUGHT SO MANY GOOD POINTS AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE IS WHAT'S YOUR PARTNERSHIP LIKE WITH LAW ENFORCEMENTS IN THE AREAS THAT YOU HAVE ALREADY RUN THIS PROGRAM? DO YOU GUYS COMMUNICATE OFTEN?  DO YOU SHARE THE DATA WITH THEM ON AREAS THAT MOST OF THE VIOLATIONS ARE HAPPENING? HOW DOES THAT WORK? YEAH, SO IT'S IT'S REALLY A COMMUNITY DRIVEN PROGRAM AND NO ONE PROGRAM IS EXACTLY LIKE ANOTHER BUT THE WAY EVEN THE STATE LAW IN ITS CURRENT FORM IS DESIGNED TO REALLY BE LIKE YOU'RE HAVING ALL THE PILLARS OF THE COMMUNITY GETTING TOGETHER IT COULD BE THE LOCAL POLICE CHIEF, IT COULD BE THE SCHOOL SUPERINTENDENT , THE SCHOOL BOARD IT'S THE MAYOR AND THE CITY COUNCIL OR THE TOWN COUNCIL AND ALL THOSE PARTIES HAVE DON'T TRADITIONALLY OUT ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS WORK TOGETHER. BUT THIS PROGRAM AT LEAST IN A PERMISSIVE FASHION ALLOWS THEM TO GET TOGETHER TO CREATE THESE LOCALLY DRIVEN PROGRAMS. BUS PATROL COMES IN WHEN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS NOT LOOKING TO BUY THE CAMERAS AND WANTS TO KIND OF OFFLOAD SOME OF THE ADMIN MINISTERIAL WORK TO A TO A PROVIDER. SO AND AND THAT'S THAT'S BEEN A SUCCESSFUL MODEL AROUND THE COUNTRY THE THE SCHOOL WELL THE LAW ENFORCEMENT IS REALLY INTENDED TO BE INDEPENDENT SO WE WORK WITH THEM. WE'RE CONSTANTLY TALKING ON A DAILY BASIS BUT AT THE SAME TIME THERE ARE SAFEGUARDS IN THE LAW AND REALLY JUST IN OUR PROGRAMS BECAUSE WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO INFLUENCE LAW ENFORCEMENT'S DECISION. WE'RE KIND OF LIKE PACKAGING THE EVIDENCE WE'RE PRESCREENING IT FOR FILTERING OUT FOR ALL THE JUNK BUT THEN GIVING THE MINUTE CLIP OR SO TO A DESIGNATED LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL TO TO WATCH THE CLIPS AROUND THE SCHOOL BUS TO MAKE THAT INDEPENDENT DECISION. SO THERE'S THAT HEALTHY SENSE OF CHECKS AND BALANCES ALWAYS SO PEOPLE DON'T EVER FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, A PRIVATE COMPANY WROTE ME A TICKET THAT IS NOT THE CASE. BUT THEN ON THE BACK END I THINK TO THE MADAME PRESIDENT'S POINT, THE THE THE TOOLS THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT THEN HAS AT THEIR DISPOSAL TO TO DO SOME MORE WHAT I WOULD CALL TRADITIONAL ENFORCEMENT ON THE ROADS IS MADE POSSIBLE THROUGH THE DATA. SO AGAIN, IF I'M IN A PLACE LIKE PEABODY AND YOU KNOW THERE'S SAY 80 BUSSES AND THEN THERE ARE THREE STOPS THAT ARE YOU KNOW THAT THE TROUBLE SPOTS YOU CAN YOU CAN STATION AN OFFICER THERE AND AS ONE POINT OF INTERVENTION TRY TO CURB THE BEHAVIOR WITH WITH TRADITIONAL ENFORCEMENT BECAUSE THE THING ABOUT PHOTO ENFORCEMENT IS THAT IT DOES NOT IT IS NOT REALLY EQUIPPED TO DO FACIAL RECOGNITION SO IT'S A LITTLE TOO BIG BROTHER ISH. SO WHAT WE WHAT WE SEE IS IT'S A MORE LIKE A FUNCTIONS LIKE A PARKING TICKET SO IT GOES TO THE REGISTERED OWNER OF THE VEHICLE IF IF YOU EVEN IF YOU WEREN'T THE DRIVER IF YOU OWNED THE VEHICLE YOU WOULD BE MAILED THE TICKET AND THEN THERE'S A TRANSFER OF LIABILITY PROVISION IF YOU KNOW IF YOU YOU KNOW YOU WANT YOUR CAR OR YOUR AND AND WE WANT TO MAIL THAT THAT PERSON WHO'S IDENTIFIED IN AN AFFIDAVIT THE CITATION THAT'S PERMISSIBLE BUT REALLY JUST IT'S JUST TO BE VERY CLEAR, IT'S A IT'S A CIVIL INFRACTION WITH A MONETARY PENALTY THAT'S SUPPOSED TO HIT YOU IN THE WALLET MUCH LIKE A PARKING TICKET DOES. OKAY. THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THAT'S PROBABLY SOME OF THE THE PUSHBACK THAT WE HEAR SOMETIMES THIS KIND OF ENFORCEMENT. BUT IT'S GOOD TO KNOW THAT IT'S MORE LIKE A PARKING TICKET WHICH ESSENTIALLY WHAT I WAS THINKING IT WOULD BE BASED ON YOUR EXPERIENCE SO FAR WITH PEABODY AND NOW SEEING THAT YOU DO IN SALEM, HOW ARE THOSE HOW ARE YOU USING THOSE PILOT PROGRAMS FOR EXAMPLE LIKE HOW MANY BUSSES ARE YOU INSTALLING CAMERAS ON?  LET'S SAY WE'RE LOOKING AHEAD IN BOSTON. HOW WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE IN BOSTON?  WELL, I WOULD ALWAYS ADVOCATE FOR REPRESENTATIVES SAMPLE SO YOU KNOW, BOSTON IS A LOT LARGER THAN PEABODY SO I WOULD MAKE SURE THAT IF WE WERE TO DO THIS IT SHOULD BE ALL DIFFERENT PARTS OF TOWN SO THAT WE REALLY GET A SENSE ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR EXAMPLE IN YOUR VARIOUS DISTRICTS I THINK HAVING THAT SENSE OF WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE AND YOU KNOW BROOKLINE OR YOU KNOW WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE IN SO SOUTH BOSTON SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE HAVING A STRONG REPRESENTATIVE SAMPLE WITH A GREAT CROSS-SECTION. WE'LL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE BEST DATA OF WHAT'S REALLY LIKELY HAPPENING AROUND THE COMMUNITY.  OKAY. OKAY. IT LOOKS LIKE CITY COUNCIL HAS A LITTLE BIT OF WORK TO DO IN TERMS OF PUSHING NUDGING IN THE STATE SENATE. SO PROBABLY GOING TO REACH OUT TO COLLEAGUES FOR A FOR A LETTER THERE. BUT HONESTLY THAT'S REALLY UP FOR ME . THAT'S IT FOR ME IN REGARDS OF QUESTIONS TO INDIA, I GOT TO COLLEAGUES HAVE ANY FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS FOR STEVE AND JOHN.  I PRACTICE ANY CLOSING STATEMENTS FROM MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES.  MADAM PRESIDENT, JUST WANT TO REITERATE THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. I ALSO THOUGHT THAT WHEN I THINK AS RICHARD ASKED ABOUT THE WHO ARE THE OPPONENTS? I THINK THERE ARE REASONS TO ALWAYS BE WARY OF CAMERAS WHEN IT COMES TO THE FOURTH AMENDMENT, WHEN IT COMES TO OUR RIGHTS. BUT I APPRECIATE YOU MENTIONING HOW THERE TENDS TO BE BROAD POLITICAL SUPPORT GIVEN GIVEN THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SAFETY OF OUR KIDS AND ABOUT WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. SO THANK YOU AGAIN, STEVE, FOR BEING HERE. VERY PROUD OF THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING AND HAPPY TO HAVE YOU HERE IN THIS CHAMBER. THANK YOU. BACK AT YOU CLLR FITZGERALD.  THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OF COURSE.  STEVE AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION TO THOSE FROM MEPS. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALSO BEING HERE TODAY. THIS IS AGAIN VERY IMPORTANT TOPIC FOR ME AND FOR JUST ALL THE RESIDENTS AND I ALWAYS REACHED OUT TO OUR OFFICE WHICH IS VERY THANKFUL FOR ALL THE INFORMATION THAT'S BEEN SHARED TODAY.  BUT WITH THAT THIS HEARING ON DOCKET NUMBER 0476 IS ADJOURNED