GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE.  MY NAME IS ENRIQUE PEPEN, DISTRICT FIVE CITY COUNCILOR AND I'M THE CHAIR OF THE BOSTON CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE ON CITY SERVICES AND INNOVATION TECHNOLOGY. TODAY IS APRIL 24, 2024. THIS HEARING IS BEING RECORDED . IT IS ALSO BEING LIVESTREAMED AT BOSTON OUR GOV SLATE CITY COUNCIL TV AND BROADCAST ON INFINITI CHANNEL EIGHT RCN CHANNEL 82 AND FILES CHANNEL 964 WRITTEN COMMENTS MAY BE SENT TO THE COMMITTEE EMAIL AT C CC DARCY SITE AT BOSTON NCOV AND WILL BE MADE PART OF THE RECORD AND AVAILABLE TO ALL COUNCILORS. PUBLIC TESTIMONY WILL BE TAKEN AT THE END OF THIS HEARING. INDIVIDUALS WILL BE CALLED ON THE ON IN THE ORDER IN WHICH THEY HAVE SIGNED UP AND WILL HAVE 2 MINUTES TO TESTIFY IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN TESTIFYING IN PERSON PLEASE ADD YOUR NAME TO THE SIGN UP SHEET IN THE ENTRANCE AT THE CHAMBER. IF YOU ARE LOOKING TO TESTIFY VIRTUALLY PLEASE EMAIL OUR CENTRAL STAFF LIAISON SHANE PAC AT SHANE DOT PAC AT BOSTON DOT GOV FOR THE LINK IN YOUR NAME WILL BE ADDED TO THE LIST. TODAY'S HEARING IS ON DOCKET NUMBER 050513. ORDER FOR A HEARING TO DISCUSS THE SERVICES THE BOSTON PUBLIC LIBRARY OFFERS OUR COMMUNITIES THIS MATTER WAS SPONSORED BY COUNCILOR AARON MURPHY AND WAS REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON MARCH 13, 2024. TODAY I'M JOINED BY MY COLLEAGUES IN ORDER OF ARRIVAL COUNCILOR AARON MURPHY,  COUNCILOR AT FLYNN AND COUNCILOR JOHN FITZGERALD.  OH THANK COUNCILOR MARTHA.  UM I WOULD LIKE I WOULD LIKE NOW TO PASS IT OVER TO THE TWO LEAD SPONSOR OF THIS HEARING ORDER, COUNCILOR EVAN MURPHY. THANK YOU JEFFREY.  THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE. I SAY IF YOU'RE LUCKY ENOUGH IF YOU'RE FORTUNATE TO SAY THAT YOU GREW UP IN A LIBRARY RIGHT, THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I HOPE ALL OF OUR CHILDREN IN THE CITY OF BOSTON CAN SAY SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO ME . I GREW UP IN THE ADAM STREET LIBRARY BACK WHEN YOU KNOW I REMEMBER WHEN MISS BREEN ASSIGNED AN ASSIGNMENT AND YOU'D HAVE TO RUN TO THE LIBRARY BECAUSE IT WAS WAY BEFORE THE INTERNET AND YOU COULD TRY TO TAKE OUT A BOOK AND SHARE IT WITH YOUR FRIENDS AND JUST WONDERFUL MEMORIES.  AND ALSO IN THE EIGHTIES, YOU KNOW, OUR MY FAMILY AND MY NEIGHBORS RALLYING ON ADAM STREET TO SAVE THE LIBRARY RIGHT.  WE'VE GONE THROUGH CUTS AND THERE'S BEEN TIMES IN CITY WHERE LIBRARIES SOMETIMES SEEM TO BE THE FIRST THING WE SHOULD TAKE AWAY WHEN I THINK I KNOW THAT I KNOW EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM PROBABLY AGREES AND AT THE END OF THIS HEARING I HOPE WE AGREE MORE THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE KEEPING OUR LIBRARIES SAFE AND SECURE FOR GENERATIONS TO COME. UM, JUST A FEW FACTS AND REASONS WHY I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU KNOW THIS DESERVES ITS OWN HEARING HERE TODAY. THEY'RE A GREAT EQUALIZER IN SOCIETY. THEY PROVIDE ACCESS TO INFORMATION AND RESOURCES REGARDLESS OF AN INDIVIDUAL'S SOCIO ECONOMIC BACKGROUND,  RACE, ETHNICITY OR GENDER. IT PROMOTES SOCIAL EQUITY AND HELPS TO BRIDGE THE DIGITAL DIVIDE SOMETHING YOU SAW WAY BEFORE COVID BUT THROUGH COVID AND WHEN YOUR LIBRARIES DID OPEN AND COMING OUT OF COVID MAKING SURE THAT YOU KNOW PEOPLE HAVE THE DIGITAL EQUITY WHICH IS SOMETHING WE HAVE A LOT OF HEARINGS HERE IN THE COUNCIL ABOUT IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT THAT WE PRESERVE, YOU KNOW, THE HISTORY AND ALL OF THE OLD COLLECTION IN BOOKS THAT IN THE CULTURE OF OUR CITY AND YOU KNOW, INFORMATION THAT PEOPLE HAVE ACCESS TO. IT'S ALSO I BELIEVE IMPORTANT THAT IT'S INTERGENERATIONAL.  YOU KNOW, MY 84 YEAR OLD AUNT WALKS EVERY DAY DOWN TO THE LIBRARY TO RETURN HER BOOKS. I KNOW THAT CHILDREN DO THEIR HOMEWORK. THEY'RE YOU KNOW, THERE IS FAMILY PROGRAMING.  A FEW WEEKS AGO I WAS LOOKING THROUGH YOUR WEBSITE OF ALL THE DIFFERENT RESOURCES YOU OFFER AT THE DIFFERENT BRANCHES DURING APRIL VACATION AND SOME OF THEM I WAS LIKE I DON'T WANT TO GO MYSELF. THERE WERE SOME WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITIES I THINK AN IMPORTANT CONVERSATION TODAY TOO THOUGH AND IT REMINDS ME OF OUR COMMUNITY CENTERS THAT EACH BRANCH HAS ITS OWN CULTURE AND ITS OWN FEELING AND ITS OWN, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT THINGS THEY OFFER WHICH IS GREAT BUT AT THE SAME TIME MAKING SURE THAT THE BURDEN ISN'T ON LIKE SOME THE FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARIES OR THAT WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S SUPPORT AND PROGRAMING COMING FROM US IN THE CITY SO THAT CERTAIN BRANCHES AREN'T LEANING ON OR DEPENDING ON AN OUTSIDE SOURCE TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE RESOURCES ARE THERE FOR THEM. AND ONE LAST THING IS IT'S REMINDS ME ALSO OF THE SCHOOL SYSTEM. IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A MYSTERY OF WHO'S IN CHARGE WHEN WE THINK OF LIKE THE SCHOOL COMMITTEE AND WHEN PEOPLE CALL US ABOUT RESOURCES AND TIMES AT THE LIBRARY AND YOU KNOW,  DIFFERENT QUESTIONS ABOUT OUR LIBRARIES, IT'S LIKE DO WE CALL THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES? DO WE CALL YOU LIKE DO YOU CALL YOUR LIBRARIAN?  I KNOW A LOT OF THE CHILDREN LIBRARIANS BECAUSE THEY'RE USUALLY THE ONES WHERE PARENTS COME WITH THE KIDS GET A LOT OF QUESTIONS ASKED OF THEM. SO I'M HOPING TO COMING OUT OF THIS THAT WE HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF YOU KNOW WHAT WHERE DO WE TURN WHEN THERE'S A QUESTION ABOUT THE LIBRARIES AND AS YOU KNOW, THE LIBRARIES SERVE YOU KNOW, FOR MANY IT'S A WARM SPACE. RIGHT? AND MANY TIMES PEOPLE WILL FIND REFUGE IN THE LIBRARIES WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT IS JUST A FACT. RIGHT. SO WE HAVE TO ALSO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE FINDING THAT BALANCE BETWEEN PEOPLE WHO NEED THAT SPACE BUT THEN MAKING SURE THAT THOSE WHO ARE ACCESSING THE LIBRARY FOR A DIFFERENT REASONS FEEL SAFE AND WELCOME TO SO HOPING THAT THAT COMES OUT OF THIS CONVERSATION TODAY ALSO. SO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND LOOKING FORWARD TO MY COLLEAGUES QUESTIONS TODAY TOO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILOR MURPHY I'LL ALSO ALLOW MY OTHER COLLEAGUES TO GIVE A BRIEF OPENING REMARKS. COUNCILOR FLYNN THANK YOU MR CHAIR, AND THANK YOU FOR SHARING THIS IMPORTANT MEETING ALSO TO COUNCILOR MURPHY. THANK YOU FOR CALLING FOR THIS MEETING. I WANT TO RECOGNIZE THE DEDICATED AND PROFESSIONAL PUBLIC LIBRARY TEAM THAT IS HERE. I ALSO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE INCREDIBLE ROLE THAT PUBLIC LIBRARIES PLAY IN OUR COMMUNITIES.  I'M FORTUNATE I WANTED TO HAVE SEVERAL OF THEM IN MY AND I KNOW HOW IMPORTANT THEY ARE ESPECIALLY TO OUR YOUNG FAMILIES, TO RESIDENTS, TO SENIORS. WE HAVE A TEMPORARY LIBRARY IN CHINATOWN AND I LOVE SEEING THE ELDERLY PEOPLE READING NEWSPAPERS IN CHINESE. AND I HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SIT THERE IN TALK WITH THEM AND BUT IT'S ALSO BRINGING PEOPLE TOGETHER AND THAT'S WHAT I LOVE ABOUT THE LIBRARY. IT'S BREAKING DOWN BARRIERS AND BREAKING DOWN, YOU KNOW, OBSTACLES IN OUR WAY AND BUILDING BRIDGES. THAT'S WHAT A LIBRARY DOES. IT WELCOMES EVERYBODY WELCOMES ALL KINDS OF PEOPLE FROM VARIOUS BACKGROUNDS SO AGAIN,  I'M PROUD OF THE PUBLIC LIBRARY IN SOUTH BOSTON MY PARENTS CO-OP THERE ARE PROBABLY TWO OR THREE TIMES A WEEK. THEY LOVE WALKING UP THERE. I'M PROUD OF THE CHINATOWN LIBRARY AS WELL. IT'S TEMPORARY BUT I KNOW WE'RE GETTING A PERMANENT LIBRARY.  I'M EXCITED ABOUT THAT AND IN THE SOUTHEND END LIBRARY THAT HAS BEEN UNFORTUNATELY SHUT DOWN FOR SEVERAL YEARS DUE TO FLOODING RELATED ISSUES. BUT WHAT I LOVED ABOUT THAT LIBRARY, WHAT I LOVE ABOUT THAT LIBRARY IT'S IT'S DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM VILLA VICTORIA AND I LOVE SEEING YOUNG FAMILIES AND MANY OF THEM DON'T SPEAK ENGLISH. THEY COME TO THE LIBRARY AND THEY LEARN AND THEY TAKE OUT BOOKS AND THEY READ THE NEWSPAPER. I LOVE SEEING MY CONSTITUENTS ALSO FROM THE CATHEDRAL PUBLIC HOUSING DEVELOPMENT AND RESIDENTS FROM CASTLE SQUARE WHICH IS A LITTLE LITTLE FURTHER UP BUT THAT PUBLIC LIBRARY IN SOUTH END IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST DIVERSE LIBRARIES YOU COULD POSSIBLY IMAGINE.  AND FINALLY ALSO IN MY DISTRICT ,DAVID IS COPY LIBRARY. WE'RE FAMILIAR WITH THAT AND WE BUT AGAIN, I'M HONORED TO BE HERE. I'M HONORED TO AND I DO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE LIBRARY TEAM FOR THE PROFESSIONAL WORK YOU ARE DOING. THANK YOU, MR CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR FLYNN. COUNCILOR FITZGERALD.  THANK YOU, CHAIR. AND THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN , FOR YOU FOR BRINGING THIS ISSUE FORWARD AND THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING TODAY. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, I LIVE THERE'S A LIBRARY AT THE TOP OF MY STREET AND I KNOW THAT YOU KNOW, WHEN MY MUM COMES TO WATCH THE KIDS ON TUESDAYS SHE LOOKS AT THE SCHEDULE THE LIBRARY AND SAYS WHERE ARE WE GOING TO YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE GET OUT OF THE HOUSE TODAY AND TAKE A WALK UP? AND WE WERE UP THERE THE LAST TIME I WAS THERE LAST WEEK WAS WE WERE READING TO A DOG ONE OF THOSE THINGS AND MY KIDS LOVE IT RIGHT? AND THAT'S JUST AT THE ONE LIBRARY AT THE TOP OF OUR STREET AND I KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT SOME OTHER GREAT LIBRARY INVESTMENTS GOING ON IN DISTRICT THREE FIELDS CORNER LIBRARY IS UNDERWAY. THE UPCOMING CORNER LIBRARY I KNOW IS IN DESIGN I BELIEVE AND SO I'M VERY EXCITED FOR THESE THINGS TO HAPPEN AND I LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING THE QUESTIONS BUT I LOVE THE WORK YOU DO AND IT'S IT'S FUNNY I THINK IN LIFE YOU DO A LOT WHEN YOU'RE YOUNG AT THE LIBRARY IN THE GRADE SCHOOL YOU GO DO YOUR HOMEWORK, YOU GO STUDY AND THEN YOU REACH THIS LULL IN LIFE WHERE YOU THINK YOU'RE COOL AND YOU KNOW ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU KIND OF GET AWAY FROM THE LIBRARY FOR A BIT AND THEN AS YOU GET OLDER AGAIN YOU GET BACK INTO IT AND YOU GO WOW, IT IT'S KIND OF A GOOD TRANSIT TRANSITION IN A WAY BECAUSE YOU COME BACK AND YOU REALIZE HOW IMPORTANT THEY ARE ESPECIALLY AS YOU GET OLDER FOR YOUR KIDS AND HOW YOU SHOULD YOU KNOW YOU WISH YOU COULD HAVE STAYED WITH IT THROUGHOUT AND SAID I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN COMING A LOT MORE. I'D BE A MUCH BETTER COUNSELOR IF I DID RIGHT.  AND SO JUST THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS DO IS AWESOME AND THE SERVICES YOU PROVIDE ON A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT LEVELS FOR ALL COMMUNITIES AND SO LOOKING FORWARD TO SEE HOW WE CAN HELP YOU GUYS AND BETTER SERVE.  THANK YOU. THANK YOU COUNSELOR JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT WE'VE ALSO BEEN JOINED BY COUNCILOR DURKIN BUT NOW I'LL GIVE THE MIC TO COUNCILOR MCKENNA. THANK YOU, CHAIR AND THANK YOU TO THE LEAD SPONSOR FOR BRINGING THIS TO US. I LAST YEAR FILES A HEARING ORDER SPECIFICALLY LOOKING AT EQUITY IN TERMS OF THE HOURS OF OPERATION IN CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS AND ALSO PROGRAMING FOR YOUNG PEOPLE. I THINK THAT THAT IS I'D LOVE TO HEAR AS WE OPEN UP FOR QUESTIONS A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING ACROSS THE CITY AROUND ISSUES LIKE THAT SINCE EVERYONE'S DROPPING NAMES I GREW UP IN FEELS CORNER SO THAT WAS MY LIBRARY JUST SO YOU ALL KNOW THAT WAS MY BABY SITTER IN MANY WAYS AND SO I DO AGREE THAT OUR LIBRARIES PLAY SUCH A VITAL ROLE IN INTERGENERATIONAL, YOU KNOW, FABRIC WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS. SO WE'D LOVE TO HEAR ABOUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO DIFFERENTLY AND HOW WE CAN HELP SUPPORT YOU ALL IN TERMS OF REALLY REACHING MORE FOLKS AND THEN THE OTHER THING THAT I'D LOVE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IS THERE IS A BOOKSTORE IN ROXBURY CALLED FRUGAL BOOKSTORE AND WHILE I KNOW WE'RE HERE TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC LIBRARIES, I DO BELIEVE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN PARTNER UP WITH OTHER FOLKS WHO MAY NOT BE LIBRARIES BUT THEY ARE BOOKSTORES AND THEY COULD BE AN EXTENSION TO SOME OF THE WORK BECAUSE I THINK THAT I'M ALWAYS GOING TO CHALLENGE THE WAY WE OPERATE. I THINK THAT WE REALLY NEED TO START PUSHING OURSELVES TO THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX AND WE CAN'T THINK THAT THE THE BOSTON PUBLIC LIBRARY'S GOING TO BE THE END ALL AND HOLD SPACE FOR EVERYONE, RIGHT? SO WHAT ROLE CAN YOU PLAY IN BUILDING STRONGER PARTNERSHIPS WITH NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS AND OR LOCAL BOOKSTORES OR EVEN THOSE LITTLE TINY FREE LITTLE LIBRARIES THAT WE SEE? I WORKED WITH A LIBRARIAN AND I WORKED WITH HER AND ONE OF THE UNIONS IS TO CREATE MORE LITTLE LIBRARIES SO THAT THEY ARE WORKING WITH SOME OF THE BOSTON PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND CREATING MORE, YOU KNOW, LITTLE LIBRARIES ACROSS THE CITY OF BOSTON. AND SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A ROLE FOR YOU ALL TO PLAY IN THAT AND I'D LOVE TO HEAR WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. AND SO THE MORE INNOVATIVE WE CAN BE THAT THE MORE EXCITED I AM TO PARTICIPATE IN HEARINGS BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT IT'S ONE THING TO COMPLAIN AND BRING THE PROBLEMS TO THE FOREFRONT BUT IT'S EVEN MORE EXCITING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO FIX IT AND THAT'S WHAT I'M REALLY INTERESTED IN.  THAT'S THE CONVERSATION THAT I'M INVESTED IN IS FIGURING OUT WHERE ARE THE OPPORTUNITIES AND WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO HELP YOU GET THERE. THAT'S WHAT I'M EXCITED ABOUT.  UNFORTUNATELY I WILL BE LEAVING A LITTLE BIT EARLIER BECAUSE I HAVE A COMMITMENT AT THE STATE HOUSE AT 330 SO HOPEFULLY I'LL BE HERE LONG ENOUGH TO ASK MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.  THANK YOU. COUNCILOR COUNCILOR DURKIN THANK YOU SO MUCH CHAIR. I REALLY APPRECIATE IT AND THANK YOU TO THE MEMBERS OF THE PANEL FOR BEING HERE. MY DISTRICT HAS SOME VERY CLEAR PRIORITIES WHEN IT COMES TO LIBRARIES.  THE WEST END LIBRARY IS BEING REDEVELOPED AND TO BE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IT'S ONE OF THE MOST EXCITING PROJECTS THAT'S GOING TO REALLY SET THE STAGE FOR WHAT WE CAN DO AS A CITY TO BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSING ON PUBLICLY OWNED LAND. IT'S SUPER EXCITING BUT IN THAT PROCESS THAT LIBRARY WILL BE JUST PLACED AND SO JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE A PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO ACCESS OUR OUR LIBRARY AND WHAT IT MEANS TO COMMUNITY IS SO IMPORTANT. WE HAVE A WEST END COMMUNITY CENTER THAT'S EMERGING AS PART OF MITIGATION FOR THE DRAGON BUILDING AT MARGATE AND I'M THINKING CAN WE HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE THAT CONSTRUCTION ASSERTIVE THEY'VE GOTTEN THEIR PERMITS AND THEY'RE OFF AND RUNNING SO TRYING TO HAVE THAT COORDINATION BE PRESENT THE FENWAY OBVIOUSLY THE 1400 BOYLSTON MITIGATION AND IT CALLED FOR A FENWAY BRANCH OF THE PUBLIC LIBRARY AND I KNOW SAMUELS AND ASSOCIATES THROUGH THEIR PROJECT COMMITTED 17 MILLION TO BUILD OUT A SPACE I KNOW FOR SOME PEOPLE WITH SMALLER THAN FOLKS WANTED TO SEE IN TERMS OF LIKE THE AMOUNT OF FEET I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET A FENWAY BRANCH OF THE PUBLIC LIBRARY. IT'S SOMETHING THAT MY COMMUNITY MEMBERS HAVE REALLY ASKED FOR. AND THEN THIRD, INVESTMENTS IN THE PARKER HILL LIBRARY. I JUST WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR WE GOT THREE THINGS SO I WANT TO THANK COUNCILOR MURPHY FOR BRINGING US TO THE TABLE BECAUSE THESE HEARINGS ARE REALLY OPPORTUNITIES TO PARTNER WITH WITH OUR WITH OUR LIBRARY AND THANK YOU SO MUCH, DAVID LEONARD FOR BEING HERE. I REALLY APPRECIATE IT AND LOOK FORWARD TO MEETING WITH YOU ABOUT ALL OF THESE THINGS. BUT WHILE I HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY I WANT TO ADVOCATE FOR MY DISTRICT IN THOSE THREE WAYS SO I'D LOVE TO SEE I GOT THE CAPITAL.  YOU KNOW I WAS READING THE CAPITAL I WOULD LOVE TO SEE AN INVESTMENT IN THE PARKER HILL LIBRARY. SO IT'S MY THIRD THING AND SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT TODAY AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL OF YOU FOR BEING HERE. I REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU DO TO ENSURE THAT OUR PUBLIC LIBRARIES ARE THE MAGICAL PLACES THAT THEY SHOULD BE FOR OUR KIDS AND OUR FAMILIES AND AND OUR RESIDENTS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU, COUNSELOR COUNCIL PRESIDENT LOUIJEUNE MAKES LIKE SO SOON. THANK YOU AND THANK YOU MR CHAIR. THANK YOU TO THE SPONSORS AND THANK YOU TO THE LIBRARY'S QUESTIONS OPENING REMARKS. SO JUST THANK YOU.  I KNOW THAT EVERYONE HAS OWN LIBRARY STORY AND I'VE SHARED IT SO MANY TIMES THE LORD KNOWS PUBLIC LIBRARY THAT WAS MY EARLY CHILDHOOD CARE AND MY SISTERS AND I ARE JUST EVER SO GRATEFUL. IN HIGH SCHOOL I LIVED IN THE BASEMENT OF THE CENTRAL PUBLIC LIBRARY BECAUSE OF ALL THE RESOURCES TO PROVIDE SOMEONE LIKE ME WHOSE PARENTS DIDN'T GO TO COLLEGE WITH THE KNOWLEDGE AND RESOURCES I KNOW THE INCREDIBLE WORK THAT YOU ALL ARE DOING WITH NEW ARRIVALS SO I THANK YOU FOR FOR ALL OF THAT. IT IS THE ONE PLACE WHERE PEOPLE RICH OR POOR YOU KNOW THE LIBRARY IS FREE AND OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. I KNOW THAT OUR LIBRARIANS HAVE BEEN UNDER A HEIGHTENED STRESS BECAUSE OF THE HARASSMENT THAT THEY FACE IN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE LEGAL THE LEGALITY AROUND A LIMITED PUBLIC FORUM AND UNDERSTANDING HOW WE MAKE SURE THAT THE LIBRARIES ARE ACCESSIBLE BUT THAT OUR LIBRARIANS ALSO FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE. YOU KNOW, DAVID, YOU AND I HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE ROLE OF THE LIBRARIES IN PRESERVING COMMUNITY HISTORY AND ESPECIALLY PRESERVING HISTORY THAT FOLKS HAVE BEEN WORKING ON LIKE JIM, JIM VRABEL PROJECT THAT MATTER IMPORTANT A LOT TO ME AS A AS A FORMER TOUR GUIDE OF OUR LOCAL NEIGHBORHOODS. SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT I CARE ABOUT THAT I WANT TO UPLIFT NOT JUST NOW BUT DURING BUDGET AND WE'VE HAD THOSE INITIAL CONVERSATIONS. I JUST WANT TO THANK ALL THE LIBRARIES LORD MILLER'S HIGH PARK MATT HAVE BEEN THAT MATTERS SO MUCH TO ME OUR CENTRAL LIBRARY AND ALL OF OUR LIBRARIES. I THINK YOU KNOW, PAST ADMINISTRATIONS HAVE DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB OF INVESTING IN LIBRARIES AS WE TALK ABOUT LIBRARIES AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING AS THE NEXT PHASE OF THE WORK THAT WE NEED TO DO TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE MAKING USE VERTICALLY I THINK THAT'S RIGHT VERTICALLY OF ALL OF OUR PUBLIC SPACES. SO THANK YOU AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THE WORK THEY WILL DO TOGETHER. THINK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT NOTED THAT WE'VE BEEN JOINED BY ALSO COUNCILOR ANDERSON WOULD YOU LIKE TO GIVE OPENING REMARKS. THANK YOU SO MUCH CHAIR. NO, NO DELAYS. NICE TO SEE YOU ALL AND LOOKING FORWARD TO THE CONVERSATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR . I GUESS WHAT I'LL SAY VERY BRIEFLY IS THAT ONCE I SAY THANK YOU TO THE PANELISTS FOR BEING HERE, I'M VERY BLESSED TO HAVE THREE BEAUTIFUL LIBRARIES IN MY DISTRICT. THERE WAS NO BRANCH THE HYDE PARK BRANCH IN THE MATTAPAN BRANCH. ALL THREE THAT SERVED SO MANY RESIDENTS OF MINE THAT I MEAN JUST YESTERDAY I WAS WALKING TO A COMMUNITY MEETING AND I WITNESSED TWO TEENAGERS SIGH BECAUSE THE ROSLINDALE LIBRARY WAS ALREADY CLOSED AND THEY REALLY WANTED TO GO IN. SO I WAS HAPPY TO SEE THAT THEY WERE EXCITED TO GO IN BUT I WAS JUST IT'S A STORY OF ITS OWN THAT PEOPLE USE THEM AND IT'S A GATHERING SPACE FOR RESIDENTS OF ALL AGES.  SO I'M JUST VERY THANKFUL FOR COUNCILOR MURPHY FOR BRINGING THIS TO THE TO THE TABLE TO HAVING THIS CONVERSATION AND EXCITED TO ADVOCATE FOR THOSE THREE LIBRARIES IN MY DISTRICT. BUT WITH THAT I'LL PASS IT OVER TO YOU TO INTRODUCE YOURSELVES AND GIVE ANY OPENING PRESENTATIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU. COUNCILOR I HAVE SOME OPENING REMARKS AND I THINK THERE WERE COMMENTS THAT IN EACH OF THE OPENING STATEMENTS I WOULD LOVE TO RESPOND TO BUT MAYBE WE CAN TAKE THOSE THROUGH QUESTIONS AFTER MY OPENING REMARKS IF THAT'S OKAY.  SO MY NAME IS DAVID LEONARD. I HAVE HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF LEADING THE BOSTON PUBLIC LIBRARY FOR THE LAST SEVEN YEARS AND IT REALLY HAS BEEN A PRIVILEGE AS YOU HAVE ALL STATED. IT IS AN AMAZING INSTITUTION AND ONE WHICH CONTINUES TO GROW AND WANTS TO DO BETTER FOR ALL OF THE RESIDENTS OF BOSTON AND BEYOND. SO THANK YOU FOR THIS HEARING TODAY PERTAINING SPECIFICALLY TO OUR BRANCH SERVICES.  BPL WAS THE FIRST LIBRARY IN THE COUNTRY TO HAVE A BRANCH AND THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL EAST BOSTON BRANCH DATING BACK TO OPENING IN 1870. CURRENT BRANCH JUST CELEBRATED TEN YEARS AT ITS CURRENT LOCATION HAVING OPENED IN 2013 WHICH KIND OF MARKS THE START OF THE MOST RECENT TEN YEARS OF INNOVATION AND RESTORATION AND INVESTMENT IN MANY MANY LIBRARIES THAT WE HOPE WITH YOUR APPROVAL WILL CONTINUE FOR FOR MANY YEARS TO COME AND THESE BUILD ON THE GREAT NEW SPACES THAT CAME IN THE PRECEDING DECADE AS WELL AS AS WELL AS EARLIER TODAY. BPL INCLUDES 25 BRANCHES ACROSS ALL OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS OF BOSTON AND OUR WONDERFUL CENTRAL LIBRARY IN COPLEY SQUARE SERVING AS THE 26TH BRANCH FOR THE BACK BAY IN PARTICULAR.  I'M JOINED ON THE PANEL TODAY BY MICHAEL MULFORD WHO IS THE DIRECTOR OF LIBRARY SERVICES AND WHO HAS OVERALL RESPONSIBILITY FOR SERVICES TO THE PUBLIC SYSTEM WIDE AND CENTRAL AND ALSO TO HIS RIGHTS. PRISCILLA FOLEY, WHO'S THE DIRECTOR OF NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES TO WHOM ALONG WITH FOUR ASSISTANT MANAGERS ALL OF OUR BRANCH LIBRARIANS REPORT IN WE HAVE TWO COLLEAGUES IN THE GALLERY BEHIND ME . OUR CHIEF OF STAFF HERE WAS A FERRIS AND EMILY TOO CARSICK OUR CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER GETTING READY FOR HEARING IN TWO WEEKS TIME I THINK FOR THE BE THAT AS IT MAY. SPEAKING OF OUR BRANCHES EACH BRANCH IS OPEN ABOUT 48 HOURS DURING A GIVEN WEEK NORMALLY 10 TO 6 WITH AT LEAST ONE LATE OPENING DAY OF 12 TO 8 AND THEN TYPICALLY ON FRIDAYS AND SATURDAYS 9 TO 5. JUST THREE NOTED EXCEPTIONS TO THAT CHINATOWN AS A TEMPORARY SPACE DOESN'T HAVE WEEKEND HOURS UP AND THE CORNERS HAD SOME STAFFING CHALLENGES AND SO IT'S STILL 2:00 ON SATURDAYS AND THEN THE SOUTH END AS COUNCILOR FLYNN NOTED IS CURRENTLY CLOSED PENDING A MAJOR RENOVATION.  THIS LATTER EXPANSION ON SATURDAYS TO 9 TO 5 AT MOST LOCATIONS WAS MADE POSSIBLE ALL THROUGH THE CITY BUDGET OF THE LAST TWO YEARS THAT ALLOWED US TO ADD STAFF ON THE FRONT LINES AND EXPAND THOSE OPENING HOURS . AND I THINK AS YOU HAVE NOTED, THOSE HAVE BEEN INCREDIBLY WELL RECEIVED AND WELCOMED BY BY OUR PATRONS.  THE BUILDINGS THEMSELVES AS YOU'VE ALSO NOTED, ARE ESSENTIAL TO OUR OFFERINGS ARE NO LONGER JUST THE CONTAINERS IN WHICH OUR BOOKS AND OUR STAFF AND OUR SERVICES OCCUR BUT THEY ARE THEMSELVES PART OF OUR SERVICE. THE SPACE ITSELF AND YOU KNOW OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS WE HAVE STARTED TO THINK OF THAT MORE INTENTIONALLY AS PART OF WHAT WE HAVE TO OFFER OUR COMMUNITIES. AND SO THIS HAS BEEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO RENOVATE TO MODERNIZE AND OFFER SOME SPECIAL DIFFERENT COMPONENTS THAT ARE RESPONSIVE TO THE COMMUNITY NEEDS AS ARTICULATED DURING OUR PROGRAMING STUDIES.  SOME EXAMPLES INCLUDE THE TECH LAB AT JAMAICA PLAIN, THE FANEUIL BRANCH WITH ITS DEDICATED COMMUNITY ROOM AND NEW CHILDREN'S SPACE THE ADAMS STREET BRANCH WITH ITS MUSIC REHEARSAL SPACE THE ROXBURY NUTRITION LAB, ROSLINDALE WITH ITS OWN DEDICATED TEAM AREA JUST TO NAME A FEW. THE EARLIER PERIOD DID ALSO INCLUDE BUILDING RENOVATIONS AT PARKER HILL SOME MODEST IMPROVEMENTS OUTSIDE OF BOSTON ,WEST ROXBURY, HYDE PARK AND LOWER MILLS AND THEN OBVIOUSLY ALSO HAS NOTED THE ADDITION OF THE TEMPORARY SPACE IN THE CHINA TRADE CENTER PENDING A FULL NEW BRANCH COMING ONLINE IN THE YEARS TO COME. SERVICES AT BRANCHES ARE WIDE RANGING AND I BELIEVE COUNCILOR MURPHY ALREADY NOTED THAT IN LOOKING AT THE UM THE CALENDAR OF WHAT IS ON OFFER THEY SPAN EDUCATION AND LEARNING THEY SPAN ARTS AND CULTURE. THEY SPANNED HUMAN AND CIVIC SERVICES. MANY ARE ALSO TECHNOLOGY FOCUSED IN SOME CASES DIRECTLY ADDRESSING THE DIGITAL EQUITY GAP THEY COVER ALL AGE RANGES IN A VARIETY OF TOPICS OFTEN LEVERAGING COMMUNITY PARTNERS.  BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO MORE. IN MANY CASES THEY LEVERAGE AND PARTNER WITH STRONG AND ACTIVE FRIENDS GROUPS AND IN ADDITION THERE ARE SEVERAL CENTRAL BASED TEAMS THAT AMPLIFY THE WORK IN BRANCHES SUCH AS OUR COMMUNITY LEARNING TEAM AND MEMBERS WHO SPEND TIME OFFERING PROGRAMS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS THAT AUGMENT THE CAPACITY OF OUR LOCAL BRANCH STAFFS. WE DO THINK OF OURSELVES AS ONE LIBRARY BUT AT THE SAME TIME HAVING UNIQUE AND INDIVIDUAL CHARACTERISTICS IN EACH NEIGHBORHOOD THE LIBRARY USES ITS REACH STATISTIC TO GAUGE OVERALL USAGE BY PATRONS. IT'S AN AMALGAMATION OF CIRCULATION BOOKS CHECKED OUT LOCATION VISITS, PROGRAMS OFFERED PROGRAM ATTENDANCE AND TECHNOLOGY USAGE AND AS OF LAST DECEMBER WE WERE AT 99% ALREADY PRE-COVID LEVELS. SO THE LIBRARY IS BACK MAYBE NOT IN EXACTLY THE SAME WAY AS WE WERE BEFORE IN THE SAME IN ALL LOCATIONS BUT IN AGGREGATE WE ARE STRONG. WE SEE STRONG USAGE ACROSS THE SYSTEM IN SOME CASES IT'S DEFINITELY ABOUT BOOKS. IN OTHER CASES IT'S MORE ABOUT THE SPACE OR OTHER SERVICES BEING AVAILED OF BUT IT IS IN ALL CASES OUR INCREDIBLE STAFF THAT MAKE ALL OF THIS HAPPEN AND COME TO LIFE FOR OUR PATRONS, FOR THE RESIDENTS OF BOSTON AND BEYOND. AND AS WE CONTINUE TO MAKE OUR WAY THROUGH OUR ACTIVE VACANCY LIST, WE LOOK FORWARD TO EVEN STRONGER OFFERINGS AND CONNECTIONS WITH OUR COMMUNITY . AND SO I WILL PAUSE THERE AND WOULD BE HAPPY TO TAKE QUESTIONS AND RESPOND TO QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS FROM FROM THE COUNCILORS. THAT SOUNDS GREAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT.  SO I'LL GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ALL THE COUNCILORS TO ASK YOUR QUESTIONS. I'LL MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALL GET ABOUT 7 MINUTES TO DO THE FIRST ROUND AND THEN WE'LL DO A SECOND ROUND AND THEN I'M GOING TO START WITH THE ORIGINAL SPONSOR OF THIS HEARING ORDER COUNCILOR MURPHY THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR OPENING REMARKS AND LIKE YOU MENTIONED MANY OF MY COLLEAGUES IN THEIR OPENING REMARKS KIND OF ALREADY ADVOCATED AND HAD QUESTIONS.  ONE THING I DID SAY TO THE CHAIR WHILE SOMEONE WAS SPEAKING IS AS AN AT LARGE CITY COUNCILOR I ALWAYS LOVE THE DISTRICT COUNCILORS PASSION FOR KNOWING YOU KNOW, THEY GET INTO THE WEEDS ABOUT WHAT'S REALLY HAPPENING IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS, IN THEIR DISTRICTS AND THEY'VE ALREADY HIGHLIGHTED A LOT OF NEEDS BUT ALSO UPLIFTING THE WONDERFUL THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING AT THEIR FRENCH LIBRARY. SO THANK YOU TO MY DISTRICT COUNCILORS FOR UPLIFTING THAT. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT LIKE I SAID EARLIER TOO THAT IF WE ONLY SPEAK TO YOU DURING THE BUDGET TIME THAT IT DOESN'T GIVE US THIS OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT IT I THINK GET DEEPER INTO THE NEEDS AND IF ANY CHANCE WE CAN SHINE A LIGHT. I DON'T WANT LIBRARIES EVER TO BE IN A SITUATION LIKE OUR SCHOOL BUILDINGS OR OUR COMMUNITIES CENTERS WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO PATCH HOLES AND CLIMB OUT OF , YOU KNOW, A REAL DEFICIT. SO I DO KNOW THERE'S LOTS OF INVESTMENT AND THERE'S LOTS OF RENOVATIONS.  THE ADAMS STREET LIBRARY, YOU KNOW, WAS TORN DOWN SOME BUILD UP FROM THE FORMS. BUT ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IS WHEN LIKE WHEN I WAS WITH THE FIELDS CORNER BRANCH AND THEY'RE ABOUT TO BE SHUT DOWN OR DURING THE TIME ADAMS STREET BRANCH WAS CLOSED ,THE FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY DID A GOOD JOB AND I DO KNOW THERE'S PROBABLY SOME PROTOCOL FOR IT BUT WHAT HAPPENS TO THOSE SERVICES AND CAN WE I KNOW THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT MAYBE THE CHILDREN'S LIBRARY AND IT FEELS CORNER COULD SPEND A COUPLE OF DAYS AT LIKE THE ICE CREAM SPOT YOU KNOW IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD SO PEOPLE DO KNOW BECAUSE WE DO SEE THERE'S A GROUP OF PEOPLE RIGHT IN FIELD'S CORNER THERE'S A LARGE VIETNAMESE COMMUNITY THAT COMES IN THAT HELPS THEM WITH THEIR TRANSLATION AND DOING, YOU KNOW, TAXES AND GETTING ONLINE AND THERE'S KIDS WHO COME FOR HOMEWORK HELP SO WHEN THEY GO TO THE CLOSED DOOR AND THEN WE KNOW IN THE SOUTH PHONE YOU KNOW IT'S BEEN CLOSED FOR YEARS LIKE WHERE CAN WE LEAD THEM IN? CAN WE CONNECT TO THAT WITH THE STAFF THAT'S ALREADY ON BOARD OR DO WE JUST MOVE THAT STAFF TO ANOTHER BRANCH?  AND IF YOU COULD TOUCH ON THAT THANK YOU COUNSELOR. IT'S ABSOLUTELY A COMBINATION OF THOSE ANSWERS AND PRISCILLA WILL GO INTO MORE DETAIL IN A SECOND BUT WE ABSOLUTELY COMMIT TO CONTINUING SERVICE FOR COMMUNITIES WHEN BRANCHES ARE CLOSED. WE DON'T HAVE A UNFORTUNATELY A MAGIC SPACE THAT WE CAN JUST POP UP TO REPLACE THOSE. BUT OUR STAFF, OUR PROGRAMS DO CONTINUE AND CERTAINLY OVER THE LAST NUMBER OF RENOVATIONS INCLUDING OUT OF THE STREET THAT YOU THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT HAS BEEN THE CASE. YES.  THE COMMUNITY GETS VERY NERVOUS RIGHT BEFORE A BRANCH CLOSES BUT THEN ADJUSTS WORKS WITH US. WE LISTEN TO WHAT THEY ASK FOR AND THEN WE WILL ENSURE THOSE THOSE SERVICES TO THE BEST WE CAN CONTINUE DURING AND DURING THE CLOSURE.  YEAH, WE WE ARE VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE AMAZING STAFF THAT CONTINUE TO SERVE THE NEIGHBORHOODS. ONE OF THE JUST MENTIONING FRUGAL BOOKS WHEN THIS IS YEARS AGO WHEN WE CLOSED ROXBURY FOR THEIR RENOVATION THE STAFF THERE DID PROGRAMING THERE SO THEY DID BOOK CLUBS THERE THEY DID STORYTIMES THERE AND THEY REALLY RELIED ON US AND PART OF THAT IS THOSE RELATIONSHIPS THAT THE STAFF ESTABLISHED BEFORE THEY CLOSED AND SO RIGHT NOW FOR FIELDS CORNER OUR TEAM IS DOING VERY SIMILAR WORK TO SEEING LIKE WHERE THE BEST PLACES ARE FOR THEM TO CONTINUE THAT WORK BECAUSE IT IS IMPORTANT FOR THE COMMUNITY TO SEE THAT BUT IT'S ALSO REALLY IMPORTANT FOR THE STAFF TO CONTINUE THOSE SERVICES AND CONTINUE THOSE RELATIONSHIPS. MORE RECENTLY OUR FANDUEL BRANCH IN BRIGHTON THE CHILDREN'S LIBRARY IN THERE WAS IN THE COMMUNITY THREE OR FOUR TIMES A WEEK JUST CONTINUING TO DO SERVICES AND THEN STORYTIMES CRAFTS AND ADDITIONALLY OUR BRANCH LIBRARIAN WAS CONTINUING BOOK GROUP SPANISH CLASSES AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS WERE CONTINUED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT'S GOOD.  ONE LAST THING AT THIS ROUND WHAT SO YOU'RE IN THE DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOOD BRANCHES DIRECTLY ? WHAT IS THE BIGGEST CONCERN OR SOMETHING THAT YOU HEAR THAT YOU WOULD LIKE US ON THE COUNCIL TO HELP ADVOCATE FOR?  WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ACTUALLY JUST STARTED THIS WEEK IN HYDE PARK WE PARTNERED WITH OUR COLLEAGUES IN DIGITAL EQUITY AND WE'RE DOING ONE ON ONE HAITIAN CREOLE TECH HELP IS JUST STARTED ON TUESDAY SO IT'S A HUGE NEED. WE THOSE RELATIONSHIPS WERE ESTABLISHED AND NOW WE'RE DOING IT SO WHEN WHEN WE SEE NEEDS WE REALLY DO TRY TO CONNECT THOSE NEEDS WITH PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING THE WORK AND PEOPLE THAT WANT TO COME IN AND DO THE WORK. IT'S WONDERFUL. I WOULD ADD COUNSELOR, THIS YEAR I COMMEND YOU FOR LOOKING THROUGH THE LIST OF THINGS ON OFFER BECAUSE OFTEN WE FIND RESIDENTS DON'T ALWAYS STAY THEMSELVES, DON'T EVEN KNOW ALL OF THE THINGS THAT ARE ON OFFER SO GREATER OPPORTUNITIES TO AMPLIFY SO TO ENSURE THAT THESE INCREDIBLE PROGRAMS THAT THE STAFF HAVE PUT TOGETHER HAVE THE WIDEST REACH POSSIBLE. THANK YOU.  IF I COULD JUST SURE IF I COULD JUST ADD AS WELL IN ADDITION TO THE FANTASTIC BRAD BRANCH STAFF THAT BECOMES AVAILABLE EVEN WHILE THEY'RE FACILITIES CLOSED, WE HAVE WE DO HAVE A TEAM OF STAFF THAT ARE BASED IN THE CENTRAL I WORK SYSTEM WIDE ON OUTREACH AND THEY PROVIDE A LOT OF SPECIALIZED SERVICES INCLUDING WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT ,ENGLISH AS A SECOND LANGUAGE TUTORING AND PUBLIC INSTRUCTION FOR DIGITAL LITERACY AND WE MAY NOT HAVE A MAGICAL POP UP THAT WE CAN BRING BUT WE ARE STARTING THIS SUMMER WE WILL BE RELAUNCHING OUR BPO BY BIKE SERVICE WHICH IS A COUPLE OF E-BIKES AND THEN A CART THAT WE CAN FILL WITH TECHNOLOGY OR WITH BOOKS WE CAN SIGN UP LIBRARY CARDS AND I'VE ALREADY BEEN TALKING TO THEM. THEY'RE GOING TO BE IN THE SOUTH END AT LEAST ONCE A WEEK PARKED IN FRONT OF THE BRANCH. SO THERE WILL BE SOME NEW BOOKS THEY'LL BE ABLE TO SIGN PEOPLE UP FOR LIBRARY CARDS.  THEY MIGHT EVEN BE ABLE TO BRING HOLT OVER. THEY WE'RE NOT SURE YET BUT SO WE CAN CONTINUE THE SERVICES ANY WAY WE CAN. THAT'S WONDERFUL. I'LL BE LOOKING FOR THOSE E-BIKES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THINK A COUNSELOR PASS IT OVER TO A COUNSELOR FLYNN THANK YOU, MR CHAIR AGAIN.  THANK YOU, DAVID. AND TO THE TEAM HERE I WANTED TO FOCUS FIRST ON THE SULTAN LIBRARY RESIDENTS CONTINUE TO ADVOCATE FOR A BEAUTIFUL NEW THREE THREE STORY LIBRARY THAT I SUPPORT THAT WOULD INCLUDE A DEDICATED SENIOR SPACE OF WRITING COMPUTER USE BUT ALSO AS I HIGHLIGHTED IN MY OPENING STATEMENT, THE LARGE LATINO COMMUNITY IN THE SOUTH END AS WELL.  I THINK THERE SHOULD BE A SPACE DEDICATED SPACE FOR LATINO PATRONS USING COMPUTERS,  COLLECTIONS, RELEVANT RESOURCES . THERE ARE HIGH PERCENTAGE OF THIS CELL PHONE.  ROXBURY COMMUNITY RESIDENTS ALSO ASKED FOR A FUNCTIONAL KITCHEN. THEY WANT TO LEARN ABOUT CULINARY NUTRITION WORKSHOPS.  WE'RE CLOSE TO MASS IN CLASS AS YOU KNOW AND WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE A PLACE FOR PATRONS TO STORE THEIR BELONGINGS AS WELL . ALSO JUST LOGISTICALLY ONE ONE ISSUE THAT LOGISTICAL ISSUE IS THE BUILDINGS SHOULD NOT ENCROACH ON THE ALLEY SHARED BETWEEN THE SULTAN LIBRARY AND ABUTTERS AND IT IS A DEDICATED FIRE LINE AS WELL AS A RIGHT OF WAY LAND AND WE SHOULD PRESERVE THE EGRESS OF AGAIN I'VE BEEN MEETING WITH RESIDENTS AND FRIENDS GROUPS MY FRIEND MARLENE AND YVETTE AND SO MANY WONDERFUL RESIDENTS THROUGHOUT VILLA VICTORIA BUT DAVID I REALLY WANT TO GO TO BAT FOR THEM. IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE LATINO COMMUNITY, THE THE ASIAN COMMUNITY IN CHINATOWN AND THE ASIAN COMMUNITY IN THE SOUTH END I SHOULD SAY HAVE A STATE OF THE ART PUBLIC LIBRARY.  THEY THEY REALLY DESERVE THAT AND WANT TO WANT TO SEE WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE.  THANK YOU COUNCILOR , FOR YOUR ADVOCACY FOR MY OWN NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL AS THE SOUTH AND RESIDENT GIVES ALL OF OUR ALL OF OUR BRANCH RENOVATIONS OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS HAVE BEEN AWARD WINNING FROM AN ARCHITECTURE AND DESIGN POINT OF VIEW ALL OF THEM AND SO WE AGREE THAT WE SHOULD BUILD A STATE OF THE ART LIBRARY IN THE SOUTH END OR QUITE FRANKLY ANYWHERE ELSE THAT WE THAT WE DO WHERE WE ARE IN THE CAPITAL PLANNING PROCESS RIGHT NOW WE ARE BECAUSE THE SOUTH END CLOSED FOR FACILITIES CATASTROPHIC FACILITIES ISSUES WE ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH THE MAYOR AND THE COMMUNITY DECIDED ON AN ACCELERATED PROGRAMING AND DESIGN PROCESS. WE ARE ABOUT A HALF TO TWO THIRDS OF THE WAY THROUGH THE PROGRAMING STAGE WHICH IS GOING AT LEAST THREE OR FOUR TIMES AS FAST AS IT WOULD NORMALLY GO AND WE ARE STILL IN THE INTAKE OF IDEAS, BATTING OF IDEAS STAGE AND THE ARCHITECTS ON BOARD YOU TEAL ARE PROCESSING ALL OF THAT INTAKE.  THE NEXT COMMUNITY MEETING I THINK WILL BE AT THE BEGINNING OF JUNE TO COME BACK TO THE COMMUNITY WITH WHAT THOSE PROPOSALS LOOK LIKE. THAT IS THE TIME PERIOD WHERE IF THERE ARE HARD DECISIONS OR CHOICES OR COMPROMISES OR MORE ADVOCACY TO HAPPEN THAT THAT IS THE TIME WHEN WE WILL LOOK AT WHAT THE ARCHITECTS COME UP WITH AND SAY DOES IT MEET OUR NEEDS?  DOES IT NEED COMMUNITY NEEDS? WHICH ONES CAN IT NEED? WHICH ONES CAN IT NOT MEET? WE MAY HAVE SOME PRELIMINARY BUDGET INFORMATION THAT WILL WILL HELP SHAPE THOSE CONVERSATIONS.  SO AT THIS POINT, YOU KNOW AND I THINK PRISCILLA CAN ATTEST TO THIS ALL IDEAS ARE STILL, YOU KNOW, VERY MUCH WELCOME AND BEING RECORDED AND VETTED. WELL, THANK YOU, DAVID AND I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS. I APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK AND YOUR WILLINGNESS TO WORK WITH US. SO I REALLY NEED TO ADVOCATE FOR A THREE STORY THREE FOUR LIBRARY. I THINK THAT'S THAT'S CRITICAL. THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT IT WILL TAKE TO ENSURE THAT EVERYBODY HAS EQUAL ACCESS TO THIS LIBRARY, A WELCOMING LIBRARY AND I KNOW IT'LL BE A WELCOMING LIBRARY BUT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT IT IS THREE THREE LEVELS. SO WHERE WE ARE WE ARE ABLE TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR RESIDENTS FROM MASSIVE CHAOS RESIDENTS FROM THE ELEVATOR AREA, RESIDENTS FROM THE CATHEDRAL, RESIDENTS FROM CASTLE SQUARE WHICH IS UP THE ROAD. IT PLAYS A CRITICAL ROLE IN THE SOUTH END AND ROXBURY AS WELL AND I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE DO HAVE THREE LEVELS AND I'M GOING TO ADVOCATE FOR THAT.  THAT'S SOMETHING THAT RESIDENTS HAVE STRESSED TO ME AND I I WANT TO MAKE SURE I DO ADVOCATE FOR THEM 100% LIKE I WOULD ANY OTHER ANY OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD. BUT I DO SEE STATE OF THE ART LIBRARIES AROUND THE CITY AND AND THE WONDERFUL THE BEAUTIFUL BUILDINGS. BUT I WANT TO SEE THE SOUTH END HAVE A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING AS WELL SO I HOPE YOU CAN CONTINUE WORKING WITH ME AND THE SOUTH AND RESIDENTS. I KNOW I HAVE THE SUPPORT OF MY COLLEAGUES HERE IN THE COUNCIL BUT ALSO THE STATE LEGISLATURE AS WELL. ANYWAY, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO HOLD MY REST OF MY QUESTIONS AND GIVE MY OTHER COLLEAGUES AN OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.  THANK YOU, COUNCILOR FLYNN. AND BEFORE WE CONTINUE, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE MY COLLEAGUES KNOW WE ALSO HAVE A SECOND PANEL OF NON ADMINISTRATION PERSONNEL FROM THE FRIENDS OF THE SOUTH IN LIBRARY. SO IN REGARDS TO COUNCILOR FLYNN'S COMMENTS WE WILL BE ABLE TO CHAT WITH THEM AFTER AS WELL.  BUT WITH THAT I WANT TO CONTINUE ON TO BELIEVE IT'S COUNCILOR FITZGERALD.  OKAY. THANK YOU CHIP. YEAH, I DO HAVE A CELL PHONE QUESTION BUT MAYBE WE'LL SAVE IT FOR THE SECOND PANEL. ONE THING A COUPLE OF THINGS I JUST WANT TO TALK ABOUT AGAIN THE GREAT SERVICE THAT YOU GUYS DO PROVIDE CURRENTLY. YOU KNOW WHETHER IT'S THE LEGO CLUB OR THE READ TO A DOG OR ALL THE THINGS THAT MY KIDS DO, I SEE IT VERY MUCH THROUGH THE YOUTH PERSPECTIVE.  ONE CONCERN I HAVE THERE IS THERE IS AT THE COMPUTERS AT THE LIBRARY AT LEAST FOR THE ADAMS STREET LIBRARY BUT I ASSUME SIMILAR PROGRAMS ARE ON MOST OF THE LIBRARIES THROUGHOUT SOME OF THE GAMES THAT COME UP ARE MAYBE NOT OF APPROPRIATE AGE APPROPRIATE FOR KIDS RIGHT.  THERE'S ONE THERE WAS AN ICON THERE. IT WAS TAKEN ON THE OTHER DAY. WATCH WHAT HE WAS PLAYING.  AND YOU KNOW THERE'S SCARIER GAMES LIKE ZOMBIES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.  RIGHT? AND THEN THERE WAS ONE ICON THAT JUST HAD A GUN ON IT AND YOU COULD CLICK ON THAT AND IT WAS A GAME WHERE YOU SHOOT THINGS AND I SAID WELL THAT THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE THE BEST RIGHT FOR THIS. SO I JUST WANT TO RAISE THAT NOT AS A DO NOT UPSET BUT YOU'RE SAYING THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK WE SHOULD PROBABLY LOOK INTO ABOUT THE I KNOW THOSE PUBLIC COMPUTERS CAN BE USED FOR A NUMBER OF THINGS AND BUT JUST EVEN AROUND THE KIDS STUFF ABOUT WHAT IS ON THAT FOR KIDS BECAUSE I KNOW THERE WAS EVEN A CHAT ROOM THAT I SAW SOME OTHER KIDS ACCESS NEXT TO ME IN OF THE STUFF THAT WAS BEING DISCUSSED IN THE CHAT ROOM WAS ALSO VERY INAPPROPRIATE. RIGHT? AND THIS WAS HAPPENING THROUGH THE LIBRARY SO I JUST WANTED TO FLAG THAT FOR YOU GUYS AS MAYBE SOME STRICTER REVIEWS OF WHAT THE COMPUTER IS ALLOWED TO DO. I KNOW IT'S DIFFICULT IN TODAY'S AGE ESPECIALLY BUT JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS I'VE NOTICED THERE. I DID GET AN EMAIL OR TEXT OR SOMETHING THE OTHER DAY ABOUT THE ART THAT'S GOING IN FRONT OF THE ADAMS STREET LIBRARY AND GIVING A CHANCE TO VOTE ON WHAT TYPE OF THING THEY'D LIKE TO SEE WHETHER IT WAS SORT OF THE MAYFLOWER SHIP BRINGING OVER THE IMMIGRANTS AND THE DIFFERENT COLORS AND MADE UP OF TO LOOK LIKE TRIPLE DECKERS AS A NOD TO DORCHESTER AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS AN AWESOME, AWESOME WAY TO DO IT. I'VE GOT TO FILL IT OUT SO I'M GOING TO HOLD MYSELF THERE. I HAVEN'T FIGURED THAT OUT YET IF STILL HAVE TIME BUT I THOUGHT THAT WAS WHAT I SAW THAT I JUST SAID OH KUDOS TO THEM THAT'S A GREAT THAT'S A GREAT WAY TO REACH OUT AND SAY AND JUST THE FACT THAT YOU'RE ADDING PUBLIC ART ON PUBLIC LAND, I THINK THAT'S A HUGE AD FOR ANY COMMUNITY IN ANY LIBRARY ACROSS THE CITY. SO MORE OF THAT IS WELCOME. I KNOW THERE WAS SOME INTERIOR ART THAT THEY WERE LOOKING AT AS WELL SO I'M ALL FOR THAT AND HOWEVER WE CAN HELP CONTINUED TO SUPPORT THAT EFFORT. BUT AGAIN IN MY SEEING IT AROUND THE YOUTH I KNOW THAT I'M PROBABLY OUT WHAT YOUR PARTNERSHIPS ARE WITH AGE STRONG AND SENIOR SERVICES AND SO A CHANCE FOR YOU GUYS TO TALK ABOUT YOUR PARTNERSHIPS THERE AND WHAT YOU PROVIDE AT THE LIBRARIES AROUND THAT PLEASE AND THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE'LL ABSOLUTELY TAKE A LOOK AT THE CYBERSECURITY ISSUES. IT'S ALWAYS SOMETHING TO KEEP UP WITH. YEAH, SO ALWAYS A CHALLENGE BUT WE DO HAVE STANDARDS WE TRY AND MAINTAIN SO IF SOMETHING ISN'T WHO HAPPILY DO ADDRESS THAT OUR ART PROGRAM REALLY IS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH PUBLIC ART, IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY, THE OFFICE OF ARTS AND CULTURE AND ALLOCATIONS IN PAST YEARS FROM THE CAPITAL BUDGET TO SUPPORT THAT WORK. SO WE'RE HAPPY TO BE PARTNERING ON THAT. I WILL DEFER TO MY COLLEAGUES ON THE NEVER TOO LATE AND STRONG PARTNERSHIPS FOR OUR FIRM FROM OUR OLDER RESIDENT. THANK YOU SIR. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH WITH ACTUALLY THE AGE FROM DEPARTMENT RIGHT NOW IS OUR WONDERFUL COLLEAGUE ANDREA BURNS ACTUALLY VISITING ALL OF THE LOCATIONS TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE DEMENTIA FRIENDLY. AND SO SHE HAS A CHECKLIST AND MEETING WITH BRANCH STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT THE WAY THAT WE'RE PRESENTING IS ABLE TO BE BRINGING IN PEOPLE THAT MAY BE LIVING WITH DEMENTIA. SO THAT'S ONE JUST IMMEDIATE SOME OF THESE THINGS I WAS JUST LIKE THINKING ABOUT THIS JUST HAPPENED THIS WEEK SO WE'RE WE'RE THAT IS PART OF THAT SO CAN I ASK SO DEMENTIA FRIENDLY MEANS WHAT IT REQUIRES RIGHT SO IS IT I'M NOT FAMILIAR SO IT'S ALWAYS A CHECKLIST THAT AGE STRONG ACTUALLY A COME UP WITH LIKE SO FOR EXAMPLE SOME THINGS LIKE MAKING SURE THERE'S SEATING THAT'S NOT NEAR REFLECTIVE SERVICES SURFACES IS ONE THING AND WHAT IT CAN DO IS RATHER THAN TRYING TO REPEAT EVERYTHING I CAN SEND IT TO YOU SO SO THEY CAN BE THERE BUT SO THEY HAVE A CRITERIA THAT THEY HAVE SOME OF ITS NOISE AND LEVELS AND SO THEY'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY ONSITE TO VISIT ALL OF OUR LOCATIONS INCLUDING OUR CENTRAL LOCATION TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE A SAFE SPACE FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING WITH DEMENTIA. ADDITIONALLY WE HAVE A PROGRAMING FOR OLDER ADULTS AND WITH THE LAST YEAR'S BUDGET PASSING WE HAVE OUR FIRST AGE STRONG LIBRARIAN. SO AT WEST ROXBURY THEY WILL BE FOCUSING ON PROGRAMING FOR FOR OLDER ADULTS IN THE WEST ROXBURY AREA AND THEN ALSO PROVIDING SUPPORT FOR OTHER LOCATION GROUPS.  AND I'LL JUST MENTION THAT THAT DEPARTMENT I MENTIONED BEFORE COMMUNITY LEARNING THEY ALSO HAVE A STAFF PERSON WHO IS LOCATED PERMANENTLY IN THE MATTAPAN BRANCH AND SHE DOES THIS REALLY GREAT A COUPLE OF PROGRAMS WITH THAT THEY CALL SILVER TAC THAT THEY DO COMPUTER TRAINING FOR OLDER ADULTS AND THAT'S BEEN VERY, VERY POPULAR. SHE SPENT QUITE A NICE COMMUNITY ROUND THERE AND THEN JUST I DON'T WANT TO OVERLOOK AT THE CENTRAL LIBRARY WE DO OUR NEVER TOO LATE PROGRAMING WHICH IS ONCE A MONTH TO MONTH ALL YEAR ROUND AND IS THE LONGEST RUNNING PROGRAM CONTINUOUSLY RUNNING PROGRAM IN THE LIBRARY AND THAT IS FOCUSED TOWARDS OLDER ADULTS AND WE GET PEOPLE COMING IN FROM ALL OVER THE CITY AND IT'S IT'S ANYTHING FROM SCREENING A FILM TO BRINGING AN AUTHOR IN TO TALK TO DO SOME WELLNESS MEDITATION. SO IT RUNS THE GAMUT AND THAT'S VERY POPULAR. GREAT IS THERE OUTREACH DONE AROUND THAT TO THE SENIOR HOMES? I'M THINKING OF THE KEYSTONE AND SAVIN HILL APARTMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT YOU REACH OUT AND SAY WE CAN EITHER BRING YOU THERE BECAUSE I KNOW TRANSPORTATION CAN BE A KIND OF BRUTAL AND OR WE CAN COME TO YOU AND PROVIDE SOME OF THESE SERVICES LIBRARY YEAH THAT'S MORE OF WHAT THEY HAVE AND STARTING TO DO MORE OF IN THE OUTREACH DEPARTMENT IS BRINGING SERVICES TO ASSISTED LIVING HOMES AND AND DIFFERENT HOUSING PLACES WHERE WHERE THEIR SENIORS ARE LAST THEY KNOW THAT BUT I'M PROBABLY RUN OUT OF TIME BUT JUST THE PROXIMITY OF I'M THINKING THE ADAMS STREET LIBRARY TO THE KENNY SCHOOL WITH BOSTON PUBLIC SCHOOLS I KNOW THERE IS SOME COMMUNICATION BUT I'D LOVE TO SEE THAT STRENGTH IN ONLY BECAUSE THE KENNY IS AN OLD SCHOOL DOES IT DOESN'T HAVE A GYM, IT DOESN'T HAVE A THEATER OR SPACE TO CONGREGATE AND SO I'D LOVE TO SEE THE LIBRARY THAT RELATIONSHIP GROW TO HOW THEY CAN BOTH HELP EACH OTHER. YEAH, WE THINK THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR GREATER PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN ALL OF THE BOSTON PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND INDEED THE BROOKLYN CHARTER SCHOOLS FOR THAT MATTER IS REALLY REALLY STRONG. WE CONVENED FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER LAST FALL A MEETING OF ALL OF THE BPL YOUTH LIBRARIANS AND THE SCHOOL LIBRARIANS TO START A MORE INTEGRATED COLLABORATION. AND SO I THINK THAT'S THAT'S A SYMBOL OF THE TYPE OF COLLABORATION WE CAN EXPECT MORE OF GOING FORWARD. THAT'S AWESOME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MY TIME.  THANKS, JOE. THANK A COUNSELOR RIGHT ON TIME COUNCILOR MEJIA.  THANK YOU. THANK YOU.  SO I JUST HAVE THREE QUESTIONS. LUCKY YOU.  HI, I'M SO I'M CURIOUS ABOUT WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES.  I USED TO WORK IN THAT SPACE WORKING SPECIFICALLY WITH PEOPLE WHO WERE TRANSITIONING OUT OF SHELTER AND WHAT I LEARNED IN MY TIME THERE WAS THAT A LOT OF FOLKS WHO WERE LIVING IN SHELTER WOULD HAVE TO LEAVE THE SHELTER FOR A PARTICULAR TIME AND FINALLY HAVE SPACES AND PLACES TO GO. SOMETIMES THEY WOULD LOOK FOR WORK, SOMETIMES THEY WOULDN'T AND I'M SURE THAT SOMETIMES PEOPLE ARE SPENDING TIME IN THE LIBRARY AND I'M CURIOUS WHAT IF ANY OPPORTUNITIES EXIST FOR A WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT PIPELINE FOR SOME OF THE FOLKS WHO ARE USUAL FREQUENT USERS OF PARTICULAR LIBRARIES AND WHAT PROGRAMING IF ANY YOU HAVE CONSIDERED TO HELP CREATE PATHWAYS TO EMPLOYMENT FOR FOLKS WHO ARE UNHOUSED BECAUSE KNOW THAT THAT IS DEFINITELY AN OPPORTUNITY FOR GROWTH IN THAT AREA AND I'M ALSO CURIOUS ABOUT THE HOURS OF OF OPERATIONS I KNOW CERTAIN SPACES AND PLACES ARE OPERATING AS CERTAIN SPACES AND TIMES THAT OTHERS ARE NOT SO MUCH SO AND I'D LOVE TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING FROM A EQUITY PERSPECTIVE OF WHY THOSE DISCREPANCIES EXIST IN CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS AND THEN I DID SEE THREE AND I'M GOING TO THROW IN ONE MORE BECAUSE I WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON FRUGAL BOOKSTORE. YOU HAD MENTIONED IT AS A PARTNERSHIP WHILE THE LIBRARY WAS CLOSED IN TRANSITION AND I'M CURIOUS WHAT IF ANYTHING YOU'VE DONE SINCE OPENING AND HOW YOU CAN CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN PROGRAMING AND AND OPPORTUNITIES TO HELP SUPPORT SOME OF THESE SMALLER BUSINESSES ACROSS THE AREA?  I MEAN LASTLY BECAUSE WE'VE HAD AN UPTICK ON WITH MIGRANTS, I'M CURIOUS WHAT YOUR PROGRAMING HAS LOOKED LIKE IN TERMS OF MULTI-LINGUAL AND IN SERVICES WHAT NEIGHBORHOODS YOU HAVE SEEN A GREATER NEED ESPECIALLY AROUND LANGUAGE ACCESS AND SERVICES FOR THOSE AREAS THAT YOU'VE SEEN PARTICULARLY IN MATTAPAN?  MICHAEL AND BRAZIL WILL PROBABLY BE THE MAIN RESPONDENTS TO THAT BUT I THINK ON THE LAST POINT I'M CERTAINLY AWARE THAT'S FOR SOME OF OUR AUTHOR PROGRAMS WE HAVE CONTINUED TO LEVERAGE NOT JUST FRUGAL BUT TRIDENT AND OTHER INDEPENDENT BOOKSTORES AS BEING THE SUPPLIERS OF BOOKS TO THOSE TO TO TO THOSE AREAS.  WE DON'T BELIEVE THEY HAVE NECESSARILY THE CAPACITY TO SUPPORT OUR LARGER BOOK BUYING CONTRACTS BUT CERTAINLY WHERE THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT.  THE QUESTION ON WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT SPEAKS DIRECTLY TO WHAT WE SAID AS AN INTERNAL PRIORITY COMING OUT OF COVID AS BEING ONE OF THE BIGGEST AREAS OF NEED. THERE ARE NOW OTHER REASONS WHY THAT'S A CONTINUING AREA OF NEED AND THERE ARE TEAMS UNDER MICHAEL'S AREA THAT DIRECTLY RESPONDING TO THAT YOU YEAH THE WORKFORCE PROBLEM WAS A GREAT QUESTION AND IT'S ONE THAT WE'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK ON IN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS SO THAT COMMUNITY LEARNING TEAM I MENTIONED IS CONSISTS OF THREE DEPARTMENTS THAT COME TOGETHER TO REALLY SUPPORT WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT. THE FIRST IS AROUND DIGITAL LITERACY IT'S OUR INSTRUCTION TEAM. THE SECOND DESIRE ESL AND LITERACY TEAM WHICH HELPS PEOPLE WHO DON'T SPEAK ENGLISH AS A FIRST LANGUAGE AND THE THIRD IS OUR WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT TEAM. SO MANY PEOPLE WHO COME IN LOOKING FOR A JOB SOMETIMES FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE BECAUSE THEY DON'T SPEAK ENGLISH VERY WELL OR THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO USE A COMPUTER. AND OF COURSE YOU KNOW YOU CAN'T APPLY FOR A JOB WITHOUT FILLING OUT A FORM ONLINE. SO THESE THREE TEAMS WORK TOGETHER AND THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS WE HIRED TWO CAREER COUNSELORS AND ONE GENERAL CAREER COUNSELOR, CAREER COUNSELOR AND ONE FOR YOUTH SPECIFICALLY. AND THEN WE HAVE TWO WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT LIBRARIANS AND I'LL JUST MENTION THE CAREER COUNSELOR WHO WHO HAS GOTTEN A PROMOTION SINCE THEN. WE'RE ABOUT TO BACKFILL THAT POSITION. WE JUST GOT SOMEONE TO TAKE OVER THAT POSITION WHICH WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL BECAUSE SHE HAD CITED A LOT OF REALLY FANTASTIC MOMENTUM WORKING IN ALL THE BRANCHES, WORKING WITH MANY PARTNER COMPANIES AND ORGANIZATIONS TO GO TO CAREER FAIRS. SHE HAD A SHE WAS DEVELOPING A PIPELINE WITH ONE OF THE AIRLINES FOR POTENTIAL JOB TRACKS. SO THERE WAS A LOT OF WORK HEADED IN THAT DIRECTION. WE WE'VE ALWAYS PREPARED PEOPLE FOR WORK FOR US LIKE TAUGHT THEM HOW TO WRITE AN INTERVIEW OR TAUGHT THEM HOW TO DO IT,  WRITE A RESUME OR DO AN INTERVIEW. BUT WE WERE TRYING TO BE MORE PROACTIVE IN WORKING WITH PARTNER ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY START PLACING PEOPLE INTO A JOB APPLICATION SCENARIOS.  WE ALSO YOU MENTIONED SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE RETURNING CITIZENS OR SOME OF THE UNHOUSED FOLKS WERE JUST ABOUT TO START WORK, DIDN'T TESTING PHASE TO LAUNCH A WELCOME CARD SO A LIBRARY CARD YOU NEED TO PROVIDE AN ADDRESS TEAM TO PROVIDE AN ID THERE'S A LOT OF BARRIERS. SO WITH THIS WELCOME CARD REALLY WE'RE KIND OF ELIMINATING ALL OF THE VERIFICATION THAT YOU NEED TO DO SO THAT THEY CAN EASILY GET A CARD. WE MAY LIMIT THE NUMBER OF BOOKS THEY COULD CHECK OUT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT BUT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO USE ALL OF OUR COMPUTERS. THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO ACCESS ALL OUR SERVICES WITH A VERY SMALL THEY WOULDN'T REALLY NEED TO PROVIDE PROOF OF ADDRESS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SO IT REALLY TO HELP IN THAT AREA.  A QUICK QUESTION THOUGH I JUST WANT FOLLOW UP IS SPECIFICALLY AROUND SOME OF THE FOLKS WHO AND I'M SURE THE FOLKS WHO WORK IN THESE LIBRARIES ACTUALLY KNOW WHO OR POTENTIALLY MAY BE UNHOUSED.  RIGHT. SO I'M CURIOUS WHAT IF ANY OPPORTUNITIES EXIST FOR ENGAGEMENT BECAUSE WHAT I ALWAYS SAY IS THAT BOSTON IS RESOURCE RICH BUT WE'RE COORDINATION FOR SURE.  I MEAN THERE ARE SO MANY OPPORTUNITIES TO REALLY GET PEOPLE BACK IN AND IF IT'S THAT BRANCH THAT IT PROVIDES SOMEONE WHO'S UNHOUSED A JOB WHETHER IT'S A STIPEND POSITION,  WHETHER IT'S SOMETHING SHORT TERM BUT WHETHER IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE HERE AND WE KNOW THAT YOU'RE HERE FROM 9 TO 3, WHY YOU KNOW WHAT OPPORTUNITIES, IF ANY CAN YOU THINK OF TO PROVIDE THESE FOLKS WITH SOME WAYS TO HAVE GAINFUL EMPLOYMENT?  JUST CURIOUS I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE THAT AS AN ACTION ITEM TO REFLECT ON BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME BARRIERS TO THAT THAT I THINK WOULD BE DIFFICULT BUT WE SHOULD TAKE THAT AS AN ACTION ITEM TO REFLECT ON AND SEE IF THERE IS A WAY TO MAKE THOSE CONNECTIONS. I THINK ONE ADDITIONAL COMPONENT MAYBE MICHAEL, YOU COULD ABOUT THE SOCIAL WORK TEAM THAT WE HAVE BECAUSE THEY'RE ALREADY SET UP TO CONNECT TO THE PEOPLE THAT YOU HAVE IN MIND AND SO GOING YOU KNOW, NOT JUST JOINING THE FIRST TWO DOTS BUT JOINING THE THIRD DOT THAT DOES SOMETHING WE CAN THINK ABOUT. THE ONLY REASON WHY I'M GOING TO THAT UP HERE AND JUST HOP ON IT JUST A LITTLE BIT LONGER IS THAT I BELIEVE THAT WE CAN SET THE EXAMPLE OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE RIGHT IN MY OFFICE I HAVE A WHOLE NEW MODEL, RIGHT? MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT WORK IN MY OFFICE HAVE NEVER WORKED THE MAJORITY OF THEM EVER CITY GOVERNMENT AND THEY PROBABLY WOULD NEVER HAVE WORKED IN CITY GOVERNMENT UNLESS I'VE GIVEN THEM THE OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE SOME OF THEM DON'T EVEN SPEAK ENGLISH AND SOME OF THEM DON'T EVEN HAVE DEGREES BUT THEY ALL HAVE THE CAPACITY AND SO MY IDEA IN THIS LITTLE LITTLE EXPERIMENT THAT I HAVE IS TO CREATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR FOLKS WHO WOULD NEVER BE ABLE STEP FOOT IN HERE AND SHOW WHAT IS POSSIBLE WHEN WE GIVE PEOPLE OPPORTUNITIES.  AND I THINK THE SAME CONSIDERING THERE'S SO MANY BRANCHES THAT I HAVE TO ADVOCATE FOR DIFFERENT WAYS OF CREATING OPPORTUNITIES AND WE AT LEAST ALWAYS NEED SOME LEVEL OF PART TIME SHELVING WORK IN DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.  SO THAT'S PROBABLY THE OBVIOUS OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO IT'S A LOW DOWN THRESHOLD, IT'S AN ENTRY POINT, IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE PEOPLE SOME DIGNIFIED WORK AND WAYS FOR THEM TO OUT OF COUNCILOR KNOW YOU SO YOU HAVE TO BE WORTHY. DO YOU HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION YOU WANTED TO ASK BEFORE I HEARD ABOUT YOU GUYS ALL THESE NEWBIES GOT ME ALL TRAUMATIZED EVERY TIME I COME TO THESE HEARINGS THAT I HEAR THE THING AND I'M LIKE OH MY GOD, I'M GOING TO GET SHUT DOWN.  YOU KNOW I WANT TO BE MINDFUL THAT I HAVE OTHER COLLEAGUES AT THAT THAT ARE WAITING. I DO HAVE A 315 HEART STOP. SO YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO LEAVE WITH THAT AS SOMETHING THAT I REALLY WOULD LOVE TO EVEN IF IT'S A PARTNERSHIP WITH YOU AND YOUR TEAM TO TO BRAINSTORM TOGETHER AND PILOT SOMETHING THAT POTENTIALLY COULD BE A WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT PIPELINE TO WORK IN LIBRARIES. THEY'RE ALREADY THERE. IT'S IT'S A NO BRAINER. YEAH I THINK I WILL JUST ADD ONE THING THIS IS KIND OF A STEP REMOVED BUT WE DO HAVE A SOCIAL WORKER ON STAFF. WE HAVE A SOCIAL WORK PROGRAM THAT WE'RE DEVELOPING AND ONE OF THE NEW POSITIONS BECAUSE YOU ALSO ASKED ABOUT BILINGUAL OR SERVING PEOPLE THAT LANGUAGE IS ONE OF OUR NEW POSITIONS THAT WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF PUTTING THROUGH THE APPROVAL PROCESS WAS A BILINGUAL PEER NAVIGATOR SO SOMEONE WHO HAS LIVED EXPERIENCE EITHER WITH HOMELESSNESS OR MENTAL ILLNESS WHO HAS BEEN CERTIFIED TO WORK AS A PEER NAVIGATOR WITH THE SOCIAL WORKER TO REALLY WORK WITH OTHER COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO ARE IN SIMILAR SITUATIONS IN BRANCHES. SO THAT POSITION HOPEFULLY WILL BE HIRED IN THE NEXT TWO OR THREE MONTHS AND THAT WILL BE ANOTHER STEP TO REACH THAT COMMUNITY AND THAT WOULD BE A POSITION THAT I WOULD ADVOCATE FOR STRONGLY REPLICATING IT. YES, BECAUSE RIGHT SO LET'S DO WE GET THAT MORE YEAH I LOOK I, I APPRECIATE THE EXTRA TIME CHAIR AND I REALLY DO APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS AND LOOK FORWARD TO PARTNERING WITH YOU ALL. I'LL STAY HERE TOO UNTIL IT'S TIME FOR ME TO GO. THANK YOU.  THANK YOU. COUNCILOR COUNCILOR DURKIN,  THANK YOU SO MUCH. I THINK I'VE MADE MY PRIORITIES IN THIS HEARING VERY CLEAR THIS I LITERALLY RAN TO THIS HEARING. I WAS GETTING OTHER CALLS AND I WAS LIKE THERE IS NO MORE IMPORTANT PLACE I COULD BE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THE BOSTON PUBLIC LIBRARY AND OUR BRANCH LIBRARIES ARE THE CENTER OF EVERYTHING OUR OUR COMMUNITIES ASKED ME FOR AND NEED. SO SO I'LL START WITH THE WEST END. YOU MENTIONED WE COMMIT TO CONTINUING SERVICE FOR COMMUNITIES WHEN BRANCHES ARE CLOSED AND I KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE MAGIC POP UPS THAT HAPPEN AND I KNOW HOW HARD IT IS AND I KNOW STAFFING IS A CHALLENGE BUT GIVEN THE UPCOMING THOUGH NOT IMMEDIATE CLOSURE OF THE WEST END LIBRARY THANKS TO THE APPROVED DEVELOPMENT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND LIBRARY SERVICES, CAN YOU GIVE ME AN EXPECTATION OF WHAT THE PUBLIC PROCESS WILL LOOK LIKE IN THAT AND OBVIOUSLY I NEED TO ADVOCATE FOR MY COMMUNITY.  THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I'VE HEARD ABOUT SINCE THE START OF MY CAMPAIGN. WE NEED A TEMPORARY LOCATION OF THE WEST END LIBRARY.  AS YOU KNOW IT'S POINT FIVE MILES AWAY FROM THE NORTH END SERVES A LOT OF ELDERLY AND DISABLED PEOPLE. IT IS ONE OF THE FAVORITE BRANCH LIBRARIES IN THE CITY AND IT'S OVER A MILE AWAY FROM COPLEY AND GIVEN HOW HARD IT IS TO TRAVERSE THIS AREA IN PARTICULAR AND WITH TWO PEOPLE WITH MOBILITY CHALLENGES, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT THERE BE SOMETHING IN THE COMMUNITY. I MENTIONED ONE IDEA WHICH IS THE WEST END COMMUNITY CENTER WHICH OBVIOUSLY WE WOULD HAVE TO LINE UP BUT JUST I'M EAGER I'M EXCITED TO TALK ABOUT THIS AND TO PARTNER WITH YOU. I'M HAPPY TO LOOK INTO LOCATIONS MYSELF AND WITH YOU ALL IN MY OFFICE AND MY STAFF AND MYSELF ARE SO DEDICATED TO THIS. SO JUST CURIOUS WHAT THE PUBLIC PROCESS COULD LOOK LIKE.  YEAH. SO ON THE TEMPORARY PEACE WHEN WE GET CLOSER TO THE ACTUAL POTENTIAL CLOSING DAYS WE'LL BE DEEPLY ENGAGED WITH THE COMMUNITY AND LISTENING TO THEIR NEEDS.  YOU KNOW IN THE MOST RECENT EXAMPLE OF THE SOUTH END WE HAVE RUN PROGRAMS AT THE UNITED SOUTH AND SETTLEMENT USER SPACE . WE ARE CURRENTLY I THINK MOVING TO THE BLACKSTONE COMMUNITY CENTER SO THERE'S A MODEL THERE AND ADDITIONALLY WITH RESPECT TO THE MOBILITY ELDERLY CHALLENGED INDIVIDUALS WHO MAY HAVE DIFFICULTY TRAVERSING A LARGE PART OF THE CITY, WE ACTUALLY PARTNERED WITH A STRONG ON HAVING A SHUTTLE RUN FROM THE CLOSED LOCATION TO TO THE NEIGHBORING BRANCHES.  SO WE'LL HAVE SOME DATA ON HOW THAT IS BEING RECEIVED. SO THERE ARE DEFINITELY CREATIVE SOLUTIONS IN ADDITION TO THE THINGS THAT BOTH PRISCILLA AND MICHAEL HAVE.  I'VE TALKED ABOUT THE WEST END AND INDEED ALBUMS CORNER WILL HAVE THE BENEFIT OF THE CHINATOWN MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT BEING FURTHER ALONG AND SO WE WILL BE LEARNING FROM THAT TO APPLY DIFFERENT LESSONS FOR THE FUTURE PROJECTS WITH RESPECT TO THE PUBLIC PROCESS, THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT PROCESS WHICH WILL JOIN TO BE RUN BY THE MEDIA AND THE OFFICE OF HOUSING IS STRONG PARTNERS WILL HAVE THE EITHER THE ARTICLE 80 PROCESS OR THE EQUIVALENT OF THE ARTICLE 80 PROCESS FOR PUBLIC INPUT. REGARDLESS THE LIBRARY AS IT GETS CLOSER TO DESIGN ACTIVITIES WILL RUN ITS STANDARD COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE PROCESS WITH THE COMMUNITY IN PARALLEL WITH THIS OTHER MAYBE IT CAN BE THE SAME GROUP WHICH HAS DIFFERENT FUNCTIONS OR DIFFERENT AGENDAS BUT WE'RE WE WOULD NEVER DO A BRANCH DEVELOPMENT WITHOUT HAVING ROBUST COMMUNITY PROCESS. THANK YOU SO MUCH AND I KNOW HOW MUCH LOVE AND CARE IS GOING TO GO INTO THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION AND I THINK WHAT I'M HONESTLY CONCERNED ABOUT IS JUST WE UNLIKE OTHER CLOSURES WHICH ARE BECAUSE OF FLOOD OR NATURAL DISASTER, WE ACTUALLY HAVE TIME TO FIGURE THIS ONE OUT. SO I JUST WANT TO ENSURE THAT WE START THE COMMUNICATION SOON AND IN THAT NOW BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY HAVE THE TIME AND SO LET'S NOT SQUANDER IT, YOU KNOW SO I'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SO I MEANT I APPRECIATED THE MENTION OF THE PARKER HILL LIBRARY AND I KNOW IN 2018 THERE WAS A REOPENING OF THE PARKER HILL LIBRARY.  THERE WERE, YOU KNOW, AMENDMENTS TO LIKE THE FACADE AND INSIDE. BUT I THINK A LOT OF FOLKS ARE INTERESTED IN JUST MORE INVESTMENT THERE ALSO TO MAKE SURE THAT THE STUDENT COMMUNITIES ARE JUST AS CONNECTED TO TO THAT LIBRARY. THERE IS A CHANGING POPULATION OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND OF MISSION HILL AND WE ALSO HAVE A HUGE COMMITMENT TO MAKING SURE I KNOW THE FRIENDS OF THE PARKER HILL LIBRARY DO YOU KNOW, EXTENSIVE WORK AND TRYING TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY . BUT I THINK THERE THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE COULD DO TO MAKE IT BETTER AND OBVIOUSLY I'VE TAKEN ZOOM CALLS FROM THE BASEMENT AND I KNOW THAT THAT SPACE COULD BE REINVIGORATED.  SO I JUST WANT TO HEAR ADVOCATE FOR MORE TIME AND ATTENTION BE GIVEN TO THE PARKER HILL LIBRARY.  THANK YOU. MAYBE WE COULD DO A FOLLOW UP ON THAT JUST TO HEAR ABOUT YOUR SPECIFIC IDEAS.  AND I THINK WE BELIEVE THAT THE OPPORTUNITY FOR GREATER OUTREACH TO THE CHANGING COMMUNITY IS CERTAINLY CERTAINLY A TANGIBLE THING WE COULD WORK ON TOGETHER. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND THIRD THE FENWAY THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO 1400 BOYLSTON I WAS INCREDIBLY EXCITED TO SEE YOU THE INCLUSION TECHNICALLY OF A CIVIC SPACE BUT TRYING TO BE MADE TO BE A LIBRARY I KNOW A LOT OF THE SUPPORT FOR THAT PROJECT WAS CONTINGENT UPON THEIR THAT WAS A MAJOR BENEFIT OF THIS PROJECT OTHER THAN THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AT 165 PARK DRIVE THE MAJOR BENEFIT OF THIS PROJECT WAS A BRANCH OF THE PUBLIC LIBRARY.  I THINK IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT THAT WE FULFILL THIS COMMITMENT TO THE COMMUNITY TO TO AS THE COMMUNITY GROWS AS THE POPULATION OF THE FENWAY GROWS WITH ALL OF THE EXPANSION OF HOUSING AND THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE MOVING TO THE FENWAY AND THE AMOUNT OF APPROVALS THAT WE'VE DONE FOR HOUSING THE AMENITIES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD NEED TO GROW YOU KNOW, IN LINE WITH WITH WITH THE INCREASE OF PEOPLE AND FAMILIES.  THAT IS THE NUMBER ONE THING I'VE HEARD FROM THE FENWAY COMMUNITY SINCE I STARTED AS A CITY COUNCILOR AND I REALLY THINK MY PREDECESSOR FOR STARTING THE CONVERSATION WITH SAMUELS AND ASSOCIATES IN DOING THAT I JUST WANT TO ENSURE THAT WE FULFILL THAT COMMITMENT AND I KNOW THERE'S BEEN CONVERSATION OF PRIOR TO THAT COMMITMENT AND I KNOW SORRY I SAID 17 MILLION IT'S $12 MILLION TO BUILD OUT THE SPACE WHICH WAS INCLUDED IF IT'S A FINANCIAL GAP LIKE I WOULD LOVE TO TALK ABOUT THAT IF IT'S A SQUARE FOOTAGE GAP WOULD LOVE TO TALK ABOUT THAT BUT I JUST WANTED TO ENSURE THAT YOU HEARD MIKE MY INTEREST IN THERE BEING A FENWAY BRANCH OF THE LIBRARY AT THAT LOCATION AND THAT THE BE PART OF THE PUBLIC PROCESS I THINK IT'S I'M SORRY I'M GOING A LITTLE BIT OVER BUT IT'S IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT THE IT'S JUST IN THE PERFECT LOCATION IN AND THE OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING IS GOING TO BE TAKEN CARE OF IN PERPETUITY. THERE'S A HUGE OPPORTUNITY FOR THERE TO BE OUTDOOR AMENITIES ASSOCIATED WITH THIS LIBRARY IF WE WERE TO CALL IT A LIBRARY. SO I JUST WANTED TO DAVID GET YOUR TAKE ON HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT THERE BEING A LIBRARY AT THAT LOCATION BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT IT. THE CONCEPT AS WE UNDERSTAND THIS IS GEARED TOWARDS BEING A SPACE TO BE POTENTIALLY USED AS A SATELLITE BRANCH LIBRARY AND THAT THE AVAILABLE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS ABOUT 5000 SQUARE FOOT COMING OUT OF THIS OPPORTUNITY.  WE HAVE A VERY ROBUST CAPITAL PLAN AS THINGS EXIST ALREADY DEALING WITH MANY OF THE EXISTING BRANCHES THAT NEED A LOT OF ATTENTION AND SO WE'RE CONTINUING TO BE HAPPY AND WELCOME THE OPPORTUNITY TO VET IDEA AND TO UNDERSTAND HOW IT WOULD WORK. ONE OF OUR REQUIREMENTS IS TO DO WHAT YOU JUST ASKED FOR WHICH IS HEAR MORE DIRECTLY FROM THE COMMUNITY AND THAT IS WHAT A PROGRAMING STUDY ACTUALLY DOES. OUR UNDERSTAND IS THAT SOME OF THOSE FUNDS FROM THE FROM THE MITIGATION SIDE OF THIS DEAL WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE TO CONDUCT A PROGRAMING STUDY,  MAYBE AN ACCELERATED ONE I'M NOT SURE YET. SO THAT WE CAN UNDERSTAND WHICH OF THE COMMUNITY'S NEEDS COULD BE BEST SERVED BY A 5000 SQUARE FOOT SPACE COMING ONLINE. AND I IF I CAN FOLLOW UP JUST FOR A SECOND RESPECTFULLY I THINK THE COMMITMENT OF THIS SPACE IS NOT JUST FOR THE CURRENT RESIDENTS, IT'S FOR THE FUTURE RESIDENTS AND I THINK IT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT WE CENTER THEIR NEEDS IF WE WANT COMMUNITIES AND FAMILIES TO MOVE TO AN AREA WE NEED TO PROVIDE PUBLIC AMENITIES AND YOU KNOW, I NEVER GET ON TO YOU KNOW, I THINK AT THE CAPITAL BUDGET IT WAS VERY CLEAR MY DISTRICT DOESN'T HAVE THE SAME PUBLIC AMENITIES AS OTHER DISTRICTS. THEY HAVE MADE THEIR OWN PUBLIC AMENITIES. THIS IS A REAL OPPORTUNITY THROUGH MITIGATION TO DELIVER ON A PUBLIC AMENITY IN MY DISTRICT AND I WANT TO FIGHT FOR THAT. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE AGREE ON PREDICTING FUTURE USE AS PART OF THE ASSESSMENT OUR PROGRAMING STUDIES ALWAYS LOOK TO WHAT THE EVOLVING DEMOGRAPHICS ARE BASED UPON BPA DATA OR OTHER OTHER INPUTS.  SO WE AGREE IT'S NOT JUST A POINT IN TIME ASSESSMENT BUT BUT IS AN EXERCISE IN PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE.  THANK YOU, COUNCILOR . COUNCILOR ANDERSON THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.  SO A LOT A LOT OF MY QUESTIONS ARE BASICALLY ABOUT USING RESOURCES THAT EXIST FOR COMMUNITY PARTNERS IN FIGURING OUT WHAT EXISTS AND WHAT DOESN'T. SO MY FIRST QUESTION IS ABOUT ASSESSMENTS THAT ARE OR HAVE YOU ACTUALLY DONE AN ASSESSMENT TO ANALYZE NEED FOR LIBRARIES THROUGHOUT BOSTON?  SO WE DID A FACILITY ASSESSMENT WHICH NOW DATES BACK TO 2012 AND THAT BASICALLY INFORMED WHAT IS THE CURRENT SLATE OF CAPITAL PROJECTS THE ONES COMPLETED AND THE ONES COMING DOWN COMING DOWN THE PIPELINE. AND AS I AS I MENTIONED IN RESPONSE TO COUNCILOR DURKIN'S QUESTION DURING ANY PROGRAMING STUDY WE DO A PROJECTION OF DEMOGRAPHIC CHANGES. WE DO DEEP ENGAGEMENT WITH THE COMMUNITY IN TERMS OF WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE.  AND THE LAST TIME WE DID A WIDE RANGING COMMUNITY ASSESSMENT WAS DURING OUR 2008 2920 TEN STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS. AND VERY PLEASED TO SHARE THAT WE HAVE JUST BEGUN AN UPDATED STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS FOR THE LIBRARY THAT WE WILL BE MOVING TO A COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PHASE LATER THIS YEAR. I DON'T YET HAVE THE SPECIFICITY OR EXACTLY THE SCOPE OF WHAT THAT WILL BE BUT IT WILL PROVIDE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO TO DO THAT THAT THAT'S I THINK A PARTIAL RESPONSE TO YOUR QUESTION IN TERMS OF AN ASSESSMENT OF THE CITY IN TERMS OF ITS NEED FOR LIBRARIES, I'M NOT SURE THAT WE HAVE DONE SUCH A THING. THANK YOU.  AND SO IF WE DON'T KNOW WHEN LIBRARIES ARE NEEDED RIGHT,  WHERE DO WE GO FROM THERE OR HOW DO WE KNOW HOW MUCH SPACE WE NEED OR HOW MANY PEOPLE NEED TO USE LIBRARIES?  SO REALLY INTERESTED IN THAT CONVERSATION OFFLINE AND ALSO HAVE WE DONE COMPARISON WITH SOME SORT OF COMPARATIVE ANALYSIS TO UNDERSTAND EQUITY OR HOW OUR LIBRARIES ARE EQUITY EQUITABLE CONSIDERING DEMOGRAPHICS AND I UNDERSTAND THE DEMOGRAPHIC STUDIES OR WHAT DID YOU CALL IT ASSESSMENT ESTIMATES ASSESSMENTS TO UNDERSTAND NEED BUT THIS IS A DIFFERENT QUESTION.  A COMPARATIVE ANALYSIS WOULD ACTUALLY PROCURE WHETHER OR NOT IT'S BEEN EQUITABLE. WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS THAT WHEN WE'RE IN DIALOG WITH THE PUBLIC FACILITIES DEPARTMENT AND WITH THE BUDGET OFFICE ABOUT THE PRIORITIZATION OF BRANCH RENOVATION PROJECTS COLLECTIVELY WE PAY DEEP ATTENTION TO WHAT ELSE IS HAPPENING IN A GIVEN NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL AS THE PACE AND DISTRIBUTION OF BRANCH PROJECTS ACROSS THE SYSTEM. SO WE AT LEAST DO THAT AS A WAY OF ENSURING EQUITABLE INVESTMENT OF CAPITAL RESOURCES THAT MAKES SENSE. SO BASICALLY IN YOUR PLANNING SUBJECTIVE TO THAT PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT OF THAT PARTICULAR LIBRARY OR PARTICULAR YEAR A PARTICULAR YEAR SO WE WE HAD ROSLINDALE, ROXBURY AND ADAMS STREET ALL ACTIVE PROJECTS THREE VERY DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE CITY ALL AT ONE TIME. SO I THINK THERE'S AN AN THERE'S AN INTENTION TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE RESPONSIVE TO DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT'S NOT ALL GOING IN ONE ONE AREA. I UNDERSTAND IN DISTRICT SEVEN I CAN COUNT ONE AND A HALF BECAUSE HALF OF SOUTHEND IS IN DISTRICT SEVEN BUT IN MY COLLEAGUES THEY HAVE ABOUT THREE AND MAYBE MORE I DON'T KNOW MAYBE THERE'S A HALF. AND SO I WOULD SAY THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME SORT OF ASSESSMENT TO UNDERSTAND HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE PEOPLE TO GET TO LIBRARIES AND ACCESSIBILITY AND SO FORTH. AND THEN THERE'S A WHOLE CONVERSATION ABOUT ACCESS AND SCHEDULES. WHEN YOU LOOK AT BACK BAY AND I UNDERSTAND VERY WELL USED THEIR SCHEDULES ARE OBVIOUSLY OPEN LONGER HOURS ARE THE DAYS THAT ROXBURY IS NOT.  CAN YOU TELL ME OUTSIDE OF BUDGET WHAT OTHER REASONS ARE THERE FOR THAT? THE CENTRAL LIBRARY SERVES AS NOT JUST THE HEADQUARTERS FOR THE ENTIRE SYSTEM BUT IS ALSO USED BY YOU. SO SO EVERYONE WHO USES A BRANCH BUT HALF OF THOSE PEOPLE ALSO USE THE CENTRAL LIBRARY BASED UPON OUR HOURS FISCAL ANALYSIS. SO IT'S IT'S HEAVILY USED. IT ALSO IS FOR FOR THE FOR THE BACK BAY IT OFFERS A WIDER RANGE OF SERVICES THAN ANY INDIVIDUAL SMALLER BRANCH CAN BE. SO I THINK APPLYING SO I THINK THE CRITERIA ARE DIFFERENT FOR THE OPENING HOURS OF THE CENTRAL LIBRARY VERSUS ANY OF THE BRANCHES THAT CAN IT BE. YEAH. IN TERMS OF CONNECTING THAT TO EQUITY THEN IT MEANS THAT IT CANNOT BE EQUAL TO OTHER DISTRICTS OR OTHER SQUARES THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT THE NEED FOR THAT SPECIFIC NEIGHBORHOOD AS YOU WERE SAYING I MEAN THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT FACILITIES BUT IN TERMS OF EQUITABLE ACCESS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT KEEPING IT OPEN LONGER BECAUSE A PLACE LIKE ROXBURY HAS I MEAN I'M NOT GOING TO COMPETE WITH OTHER DISTRICTS BUT WHEN IT COMES TO TALKING ABOUT EQUITY,  WE DO HAVE TO COMPARE TO OUTSIDE AREAS RIGHT?  SO AFFLUENT COMMUNITIES LIKE FENWAY, LIKE BACK BAY DO HAVE PLENTY OF AMENITIES. OH MY GOD. BUT THEN WHEN YOU GO TO ROXBURY I ACTUALLY DIDN'T ACID MAPPING STUDY WITH NORTHEASTERN AND FOUND THAT WE HAVE NOTHING AND THEN BY NOTHING I MEAN LIKE WE HAVE BARBERSHOPS, WE HAVE LIQUOR STORES, WE HAVE FAST FOOD AND I MEAN LIKE A COUPLE POPEYE'S MCDONALD'S. YEAH, SOMETHING LIKE THAT TWICE TO WE DON'T HAVE RESTAURANTS WE DON'T HAVE WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A JUICE BAR. WE DON'T EVEN I DON'T KNOW A SHOE STORE. I DON'T KNOW WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.  AND SO WE'RE WORKING ON THIS IN HOPEFULLY IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE ADMINISTRATION IN TERMS OF AND I AND I FEEL LIKE THIS IS SEPARATE THIS IS PART CITY FOR PUBLIC AMENITIES. THIS IS PART DEVELOPMENT PLANNING FOR DEVELOPERS BUT THIS THEN RIGHT AFFECTS IMPACTS THE USE OF THE LIBRARY. I USED TO HAVE A LOT OF CLIENTS THAT ARE EITHER HOMELESS OR SUFFERING FROM MENTAL HEALTH DISABILITIES AND THE LIBRARY IS A SAFE HAVEN FROM ABUSE FROM HOME OR FROM THE SHELTER.  AND SO I WOULD ADVOCATE THAT ROXBURY LIBRARY SHOULD EQUITABLY THEY SHOULD BE OPEN MUCH LATER THAN OTHER COMMUNITIES AND AFFLUENT COMMUNITY IN AFFLUENT AREAS. YEAH, WE WERE WE WERE VERY HAPPY TO BE ABLE TO TO DO THE RENOVATION OF ROXBURY FOR SOME OF THE VERY REASONS THAT THAT THAT YOU MENTIONED AND IT'S JUST IT'S BEAUTIFUL AND IT'S ONE OF THE TWO LARGEST BRANCHES OUTSIDE OF THE CENTRAL LIBRARY IN THE WHOLE SYSTEM AND THAT'S EQUITABLE AND THAT'S LIKE I THINK WE DESERVE MORE. SO I THINK AND I LOVE YOU FOR IT I JUST I THINK I'M GOING TO DISCUSS, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN NOT JUST AMENITIES BUT PROGRAMMATIC STUFF LIKE DO YOU HAVE LIBRARY ASSOCIATION GRANTS FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES OUTSIDE OF CITY PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS, LIBRARY MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT TOOLS AND CAN YOU SPEAK ABOUT THAT AND SORT OF ONE SUMMARY FOR MY TIME IS UP I'M I MY TIME IS UP BUT ALSO BEFORE I FINISH BECAUSE I'M NOT GOING TO BE TO TALK AGAIN UNTIL THE SECOND ROUND. THANK YOU SO MUCH.  THANK YOU. CHAIR IN TERMS OF THE LIBRARY IN SOUTHEND, I, I AGREE I THINK THAT THEY DO NEED A THIRD FLOOR AND IT'S NOT BECAUSE LIKE SOUTH ENDERS OR HERE IT'S REALLY LIKE NO THIS IS PRAGMATIC LIKE WE NEED THEY NEED MORE SPACE AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AMENITIES AND PROGRAMS AND ACCESSIBILITY THAT LIBRARY SO TIGHT I SAW VOLUNTEER A LONG TIME AGO AND THEY USED TO HAVE LIKE A SENIOR PROGRAM READING BOOKS TO KIDS AND ALL THAT AND I DID THAT AND WE WOULD SIT LIKE IN LIKE TIGHT CORNERS IT'S SO BAD SO THERE'S NO WAY TO GO UP BECAUSE THERE'S NO RIGHT LONGITUDINAL. WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING. SO DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT? SHOULD WE HAVE A THIRD FLOOR? WHAT'S GOING ON? CAN YOU HELP US WITH THIS?  SO IN ANSWER TO YOUR PROGRAMMATIC STUFF YES. SO ON AND SO IN IN PREPARATION FOR THE BUDGET HEARING WE WILL BE PROVIDING I THINK IT'S NOW 40 PAGE REPORT ON ALL OF THE PROGRAMS AND SERVICES OFFERED. SO I THINK SOME OF WHAT YOUR MIDDLE QUESTION IS ASKING WILL BE IN THERE. OKAY. I DO THINK FROM A TOOLS AND ASSOCIATIONS AND BEST PRACTICES AND STANDARDS WE HAVE ACCESS TO A LOT OF THAT ALREADY. WHAT I THINK WOULD BE INTERESTING IS TO I AGREE WITH YOU IS TO TAKE THE EQUITY LENS AND APPLY IT TO SOME OF THOSE THOSE PARTICULAR STANDARDS AND SEE HOW WOULD THEY WORK IN BOSTON WITH RESPECT TO THE SOUTH END. I WANT THE THE SIZE TO BE DRIVEN BY WHAT THE PROGRAM REQUIREMENTS ARE AND WHAT THE SITE WILL ALLOW.  THE ARCHITECTS HAVE SHOWN US AND THIS IS A PUBLIC MEETING SO THE ARCHITECTS HAVE SHOWN US I THINK THREE MODELS ARE VERSIONS ALREADY THE TWO FLOOR OPTION ALREADY DOUBLES THE AMOUNT OF OF PROGRAM USABLE SPACE IN THE BUILDING AND DOES SO BY PRESERVING THE PARK ALMOST THE ENTIRETY OF THE PARK WHICH WERE TO REALLY REALLY IMPORTANT THINGS WE HEARD FROM FROM THAT COMMUNITY.  SO YOU KNOW, AS I SAID EARLIER, WE'RE GOING TO SEE THE THE CONVERSATION CONTINUE. SIZE WILL BE DRIVEN BY WHAT THE PROGRAM LOOKS FOR AND ALSO WHAT WHAT THE BUDGET ULTIMATELY IS GOING TO BE. MR CHAIR MAY WRAP UP PLEASE.  TO TO THAT AGAIN EQUITABLE AND. YES SOUTH END. YES. MOST PEOPLE THERE HAVE MONEY SOME MONEY RIGHT. MOST HAVE MIDDLE CLASS. RIGHT. WE CAN SAY THAT BUT I MEAN THE AVERAGE INCOME IS DECENT. HOWEVER EQUITABLY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AMENITIES SOUTH END SUFFERS. THEY CAN'T EVEN GO OUTSIDE TO DO ANYTHING OUTSIDE. THERE'S NOTHING IN TERMS OF SPACE OUTDOOR RECREATION.  THERE'S A LOT OF RESTAURANTS AND STUFF THAT ROXBURY DOESN'T HAVE. I GET IT. HOWEVER THEY IF WE CAN BUILD UP IF WE CAN ZONE UP IN A WAY TO ADD THESE AMENITIES. THAT'S THE COMPROMISE TO DEVELOPMENT.  ALEXANDRA HOTEL IS GOING TO GO UP IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO GO UP PRETTY HIGH IF WE'RE DOING STUFF LIKE THAT. MY JOB IS TO BRING COMMUNITY VOICE AND SAY HOW ARE WE INCORPORATING COMMUNITY THAT HOW WE ARE INCLUDING IT, HOW WE HOW ARE WE DEVELOPING RESPONSIBLY WITHOUT DISPLACEMENT? IT MEANS THAT YOU'RE ADDING THOSE AMENITIES TO ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE SOCIAL CENTERS OF HEALTH AND HEALTH IN GENERAL . AND I THINK IT'S MORE THAN JUST THE USE THAT'S BEEN PRESENTED.  I THINK IT'S EQUITABLE SPACE TO CREATE THAT AMENITY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OR SPACE TO APPLY THOSE AMENITIES.  YEAH. I MEAN LET'S CONTINUE TO HEAR WHAT THOSE AMENITIES ARE AND ARE THEY THINGS THAT A LIBRARY IS HAS THE CORE MISSION TO ACTUALLY PROVIDE AND THEN ULTIMATELY IF THE ANSWER IS YES, CAN WE AFFORD IT RIGHT? BECAUSE WHEN WE GO TO A WHEN WE GO TO A BEYOND WELL OUR IDEAL STANDARD IS ACTUALLY A FIRST FLOOR LIBRARY IS LIKE WHAT SINGLE STORY AT THE ADAMS STREET?  PROBABLY THE MOST RECENT BEST EXAMPLE IS BOSTON'S ANOTHER GREAT ONE ADAMS STREET TO GET AFFORDABLE HOUSING ON TOP OF IT BUT THAT'S NOT MY DISTRICT.  OKAY WELL ADDITIONS TO MY SECOND ROUND GOOD THERE IS A LOT OF MERITS AND WE'RE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE CHINATOWN UP ON THIS CORNER WEST END MIXED USE AND HOUSING SPECIFIC AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN PARTICULAR OPPORTUNITIES AND SO SO I THINK YOU KNOW OUR IDEAL IS A SINGLE STORY LIBRARY BECAUSE THE SIGHTLINES ARE BETTER, THE EASE OF CIRCULATION AND NAVIGATION IS BETTER.  WE HAVE MANY LIBRARIES THAT WE LIKE THAT ARE TWO STORY OR HAVE A STORY AND A MEZZANINE. EVEN ROXBURY AT 27,000 SQUARE FEET IS KIND OF ON THAT ON THAT MODEL WHEN WE GET TO A THIRD STORY IT PROVIDES AN OPERATIONAL CHALLENGE AND A STAFFING CHALLENGE THAT DOESN'T EXIST WITH THE OTHER MODELS.  BUT LET'S HAVE THE PROCESS CONTINUE AND WE'LL SEE WHAT COMES OUT OF IT.  THANK YOU SO MUCH AS A CHAIR I THINK COMMUNITY PROCESS COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIP CAN HELP MITIGATE THAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR CHAIR. THEY COUNCILOR , THIS IS MY TURN SO SOME CONVERSATIONS HAVE BEEN HAPPENING WITH PARENTS AND ROZ KNOWS SPECIFICALLY IS THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR THEY CALL IT AN INDOOR PLAYGROUND OR INDOOR OR SPACE DURING WINTER TIME WHEN THE WEATHER STARTS TO GET COLD.  THEY WANT TO SEE THIS HAPPEN ON WEEKENDS SPECIFICALLY RATHER THAN THOSE BRANCHES AND OPEN TOO LATE ON SATURDAYS.  I THINK IT'S JUST 2 P.M. 5 P.M. 5:05 P.M. NOW BUT THEY WERE ALSO EXPLORING THE IDEA OF POTENTIALLY ONE SUNDAY A MONTH WHERE THERE COULD BE ACTIVITIES DURING THE WINTER TIME BECAUSE THANKFULLY OUR FAMILY POPULATION IS GROWING WITH YOUNGER KIDS. BUT AS A PARENT OF TWO KIDS MYSELF IT IS DIFFICULT TO FIND A PLACE WE CAN GO TO ON A SUNDAY. WE EITHER GO TO THE MALL OR WE GO STROLL AT TARGET BUT NOT QUITE THE SAME. IT'S NOT QUITE THE SAME EXPERIENCE.  WHAT IS THIS SOMETHING WE'VE CONSIDERED TO DO EXTENDED HOURS DURING COLD COLD WINTER TIMES TO CREATE SPACE FOR FOR FAMILIES OR JUST FOR ANYONE IN GENERAL? THIS MUST BE SOMEWHERE. YEAH.  I MEAN AT THIS POINT I THINK I THINK WE WOULD ALL LOVE LIBRARIES TO BE MORE LIBRARIES TO BE OPEN LONGER HOURS. I THINK NO ONE WOULD ARGUE WITH THAT IN PRINCIPLE. IT IS A FUNCTION OF OUR STAFFING MODELS AND OUR HIRING PATTERNS AND YOU KNOW, WE WERE THRILLED OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS TO GET TO THE PLACE WHERE WE COULD DO 9 TO 5 ON SATURDAYS INSTEAD OF UM INSTEAD OF AT LEAST 9 TO 2 OR EVEN SHORTER HOURS IN SOME CASES.  AND SO UM, WE ARE CONTINUING TO WORK THROUGH THE EXISTING BACKLOG OF VACANCIES AND STAFFING AND SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY IN THE COMING YEAR TO ADDRESS THAT BUT YOU KNOW, I EXPECT THAT WOULD BE A COMMON THING WE MIGHT HEAR FROM COMMUNITIES DURING THE STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS WE'RE ABOUT TO DO SO IT MAY BE THAT A YEAR FROM NOW WE'RE COMING BACK WITH KNOW THAT THAT IS AN AREA THAT SHOULD BE THE PRIORITY FOR FUTURE INVESTMENT . THAT'S BEAUTIFUL. WELL, THANK YOU FOR THAT. YEAH, I'M PRETTY SURE IT IS SOMETHING THAT A LOT OF RESIDENTS WILL BRING UP IN REGARDS TO THE HYDE PARK LIBRARY. UM, AND THERE'S SOMETHING I REALLY LOVE ABOUT THEIR IS THEY HAVE A SEED LIBRARY FOR PLANTS AND FOR A FOR FOR GARDENS. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS HAS HAPPENED IN OTHER LIBRARIES ACROSS THE CITY. YEAH.  YEAH IT DOES. AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO BRING THEM BACK RIGHT.  THAT'S NOT SOME SEEDS BACK AFTER YOU.  OKAY, THAT THAT THAT'S GREAT. I MEAN, RESIDENTS LOVE THAT.  CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THAT. I MYSELF I DON'T HAVE A GARDEN BUT I LOVE TO TO HAVE PLANTS IN THE HOUSE SO I, I ACTUALLY USE THAT RESOURCE AS WELL FOR MY FAMILY. I THINK THAT THERE ARE THERE ARE MANY OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO EXPAND BEYOND THE TRADITIONAL THINGS YOU MIGHT CHECK OUT FROM A LIBRARY.  WE'RE BEING VERY CAUTIOUS ABOUT THAT IN THE THINGS THAT WE CHOOSE BUT THERE HAVE BEEN I THINK SEVERAL SEVERAL EXPERIMENTS ABOUT THINGS YOU MIGHT WANT TO CHECK OUT FROM FROM THE LIBRARY, THE SEED LIBRARY WHICH IS ACTIVE IN MANY LOCATIONS IS REALLY, REALLY COOL.  YEAH, WE HAVE BINOCULARS, WE HAVE TELESCOPES AND WE HAVE ORAL HISTORY BACKPACKS WHERE YOU CAN RECORD ORAL HISTORIES AS WELL. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'VE GOT SO FAR BUT WE'RE EXPANDING THAT AS WELL.  THAT'S GOOD. WELL THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT. UM, AND THEN THE LAST QUESTION I BELIEVE ONE OF YOU MENTIONED THAT IN THE HYDE PARK LIBRARY THERE'S THE NEW UM THE NEW SERVICE YOU'RE PROVIDING FOR TECHNICAL TECHNOLOGICAL SERVICES IN HAITIAN CREOLE. IT'S A PROGRAM THAT WE ARE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH OUR DIGITAL EQUITY PARTNERS OF THE CITY. SO THEY'RE DOING HAITIAN CREOLE ONE ON ONE TECH SUPPORT EVERY WEEK. SO IS THAT ONLY AT THE HIGH PART? RIGHT NOW IT IS. WE ARE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH OUR OTHER LIBRARY DEPARTMENTS LOOKING TO EXPAND COMPUTER ACCESS CLASSES IN OTHER LANGUAGES AND SO WE'RE WORKING ON THAT AS WELL. I WOULD LOVE TO ADVOCATE FOR THE NEXT BRANCH TO PROVIDE THAT TO BE THE MATTER. PAMPER LIBRARY.  I THINK THAT WOULD JUST IT JUST THAT LOCATION MAKES A LOT OF SENSE FOR IT TO BE THE NEXT ONE BUT UM THAT IS REALLY IT FOR ME . I WANT TO ASK MY COLLEAGUES DO YOU HAVE A FEW OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THIS GROUP OF PALINS BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO OUR SECOND? OKAY, SO THIS COUNCIL OF FLYNN COUNCIL MURPHY AND THEN WE'LL GO IN ORDER.  YEAH, SURE. THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR ANSWERS AND TO MY COLLEAGUES FOR ASKING GOOD QUESTIONS.  ONE JUST QUICK THING ON COUNCIL FITZGERALD'S BROUGHT UP ,YOU KNOW, THE PROXIMITY OF THE KENNY ADAMS STREET AND THERE'S OTHERS AROUND. BUT AS A FORMER TEACHER I OFTEN WOULD DRIVE TO THE COPLEY LIBRARY DURING LIKE SEASONS SAY TO GET A LOT OF BOOKS. IS THERE A PARTNERSHIP ALREADY OR SOMEWHAT A PARTNERSHIP WE COULD GROW WITH OUR TEACHERS DIRECTLY NOT JUST WITH SCHOOLS BUT BECAUSE I KNOW WAY BACK WHEN YOU KNOW I'D BE GETTING THE FINES AND I'M LIKE I'M JUST GOING TO PAY THE FINES BECAUSE THE KIDS ARE READING THEM RIGHT? AND IF I TAUGHT KINDERGARTEN FOR MANY YEARS SO YOU KNOW ALL OF THE THEMES THAT WOULD COME UP IN OUR CURRICULUM IT WOULD BE GREAT AND SUCH A GREAT RESOURCE TO BRING KNOW A BAG OF BOOKS TO THE CLASSROOM AND THEY LOVED THEM. SO I ALWAYS THOUGHT IT WAS WONDERFUL TO SEE THE KIDS ACTUALLY READING THE BOOKS. BUT IF THERE'S SOME WAY TO PARTNER WITH TEACHERS THAT WAY YEAH AS DAVID HAS MENTIONED WE WERE IN A POSITION WHERE WE REALLY WANT TO EXPAND OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS BUT WE HAVE A LONG STANDING, VERY SUCCESSFUL PARTNERSHIP AND THE MOST SUCCESSFUL PARTNERSHIPS WE HAVE TEND TO BE IN THE INDIVIDUAL BRANCHES OF THE INDIVIDUAL CHILDREN'S LIBRARIANS AND THE TEACHERS IN THE AREAS AROUND THEM THAT CAN THE CENTRAL IDEA BUT ALSO ALL THE BRANCHES THEY THAT'S WHERE THEY CAN HAVE THE MOST IMPACT AND THAT'S WHERE I THINK WE SEE THE MOST INTERACTION IS ON THAT LEVEL BETWEEN THE LIBRARIAN AND THE TEACHER DIRECTLY. THAT'S GREAT. I WOULD JUST SAY I'D LOVE TO UPLIFT THAT IN ANY WAY WE CAN HELP TO DO THAT. AND THAT TIES INTO YOU MENTIONED AGE STRONG IN THE DIGITAL OFF IT SEEMS BECAUSE IN ALL OF OUR OPENING REMARKS WE TALKED ABOUT HOW THE LIBRARIES TOUCH EVERY PART OF EVERYONE'S LIFE THAT LIKE I GUESS THE EASIER QUESTION WOULD BE WHICH DEPARTMENTS DO YOU NOT PARTNER WITH, RIGHT? BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY AND OFTENTIMES WHEN YOU'RE A DEPARTMENT THAT IS MANY DEPARTMENTS LEAN ON YOU TO WRITE YOU LEAN ON THEM FOR RESOURCES.  BUT IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU ARE ABLE TO QUANTIFY? RIGHT. TO MAKE SURE WHEN IT COMES TO BUDGETS ISN'T RIGHT THAT YOU ARE GETTING ENOUGH SUPPORT BECAUSE YOU'D NEVER SAY NO TO THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS BUT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN THEY'RE ASKING FOR THINGS YOU KNOW EVEN THE TEACHERS WHO WANT YOUR BOOKS BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A BIG SCHOOL BUDGET BUT IT'S THOSE INDIVIDUAL RELATIONSHIPS YOU'RE SAYING WITH LIBRARIES AND JUST WONDERING IF THAT'S YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A VERY GOOD SUGGESTION.  I MEAN OUR OUR DEFAULT IS ALWAYS TO TRY AND SAY YES IF WE POSSIBLY CAN AND UNDER THE WE WERE ADMINISTRATION THE LIBRARY IS NOW PART OF THE HUMAN SERVICES CABINET AND SO THAT JUST HEIGHTENS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO BE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH A STRONG DCF OFFICE OF RECRUITING RETURNING CITIZENS OFFICE OF YOUTH ENGAGEMENT AND ADVANCEMENT AND VETERANS AFFAIRS. AND SO WE HAVE TO TAKE OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO HAVE A SPECIAL RELATIONSHIP TO TO UPLIFT OUR OUR FELLOW CABINET DEPARTMENTS. BUT YES, I THINK YOU'D BE HARD PRESSED TO NAME A DEPARTMENT THAT WE DO NOT HAVE. I'VE DONE SOMETHING WITH NO, THAT'S GOOD. BUT IF THERE'S EVER TIMES WHERE YOU DO FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE TO SAY NO OR YOU CAN'T PROVIDE ENOUGH, I THINK IT'S A SMART THING TO COME TO US RIGHT? OR THOSE DEPARTMENTS TO FIND DIFFERENT WAYS TO GET SUPPORT KNOWING THAT THE BEST WAY SOMETIMES IS THROUGH THE LIBRARY BECAUSE PEOPLE DO TRUST YOUR BRANCHES AND YOUR INSTITUTIONS TO COME TO SORT OF TO STRENGTHEN THOSE RELATIONSHIPS BUT FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE MAKING SURE THAT YOU HAVE WHAT YOU NEED IS IMPORTANT.  THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNSELOR FLYNN THANK YOU AND THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.  TWO BRIEF QUICK QUESTIONS TO DAVID.  DAVID, CAN YOU TALK ABOUT EVEN THOUGH THE PERMANENT LIBRARY IN CHINATOWN WILL BE BUILT SCHWAB WILL TAKE A PERIOD OF TIME. WHAT OUTREACH ARE WE DOING IN THE MEANTIME FOR CANTONESE SPEAKING RESIDENTS?  MANY OF THEM AS YOU KNOW MOST OF THEM REALLY DON'T SPEAK ENGLISH. AND THEN MY SECOND QUESTION IS CAN YOU TELL ME ANY UNIQUE PROGRAMS THAT YOU MIGHT BE THINKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF BRINGING MORE VETERANS INTO LIBRARIES ACROSS ACROSS THE CITY? DO YOU THINK SO FOR OUR WE HAVE A FANTASTIC STAFF AT CHINATOWN . AS YOU KNOW WE WORK WITH THE FRIENDS AS WELL AND BEFORE WE THE END OF THE SCHOOL YEAR LAST YEAR WE HAD A LITTLE YOU KNOW A LITTLE BIT BUT A MEETING TO TALK TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ABOUT THE PROJECT AND WE WILL BE DOING MORE OUTREACH AS WE AS WE MOVE FORWARD. WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE CANTONESE SPEAKERS ON STAFF SO WE'RE ABLE TO EXPAND INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THAT THAT PERTAINS TO COLLECTIONS ELECTION AS WELL. YES, OF COURSE WITH RESPECT TO THE VETERANS AFFAIRS WE'RE IN EARLY STAGES OF CONVERSATIONS WITH COMMISSIONER SANTIAGO AND HIS TEAM ABOUT WHAT WHAT WOULD MAKE MOST SENSE.  THERE HAVE BEEN CLEARLY ONE OFF OPPORTUNITIES WHEN THEY COME UP TO TO ENGAGE AND YOU KNOW THAT THAT THAT COMMUNITY IS A TREASURED PART OF OUR CITY OF BOSTON AND SO TO GO THAT EXTRA MILE TO FIND OUT WHAT WOULD BE SOMETHING SPECIAL TO DO WE INTEND TO DO THAT AND THANK YOU THAT'S BEEN A AND THANK YOU TO PRISCILLA. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU ALSO I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THE LIBRARIANS AT THE CHINATOWN TEMPORARY BRANCH ARE EXCELLENT IN THEIR LANGUAGE OF SPEAKING CANTONESE IN ENGLISH IS IS EXCEPTIONAL AND SO JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THEIR PROFESSIONALISM AND THEIR DEDICATION TO THEIR JOB. THANK YOU.  THANK YOU. COUNCILOR COUNCILOR FITZGERALD NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU GUYS FOR ALL YOU DO LOOK FORWARD TO EVEN THE GREATER WORK THAT YOU HAVE AHEAD IN THE FUTURE. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR ANDERSON THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.  I GUESS JUST QUESTIONS ABOUT OUTREACH AND COLLABORATIONS WITH COMMUNITY PARTNERS I DON'T KNOW IF THIS HAS BEEN ANSWERED ALREADY BUT I DON'T REMEMBER THAT BEING ASKED OKAY, WELL HOW DO YOU DO THAT CULTURAL COMPETENCY TRAINING COLLABORATION WITH COMMUNITY REACHING OUT TO PUBLIC HOUSING AS WELL AS VETERANS I GET THAT YOU'RE NOT IN THE PROCESS OF THAT.  WOULD YOU LIKE TO START? SURE I COULD START AND WE ARE WE DO AN EXTENSIVE AMOUNT OF A PARTNER PARTNER AND WE PARTNER WITH ORGANIZATIONS ALL ACROSS THE CITY NONPROFITS, CULTURAL ORGANIZATION.  THESE SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS I THINK ARE ALL PART OF YOUR PROGRAMMATIC REPORT YOU'RE GOING TO BE SENDING IN A LOT OF IT WILL BE WE HAVE A DIRECTOR OF STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIPS WE OUR OUTREACH TEAM.  MOST OF THE WORK WE ARE ABLE TO DO IS BECAUSE OF THE PARTNERSHIPS WE HAVE WE JUST MET IT JUST THIS WEEK HAS BEEN MEETING WITH THREE OR FOUR DIFFERENT PARTNERS FOR POTENTIAL THE PROGRAMS A LOT OF THEM ARE PROGRAMMATIC BUT AGAIN LIKE IN WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT FOR EXAMPLE WE DO A LOT OF PARTNERING WITH WITH SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS THAT CAN REALLY HELP US ACTUALLY DO THE WORK PARTNER WITH GROUPS THAT HELP DO TAXES FOR PEOPLE WE WILL OFTEN PARTNER WITH ORGANIZATIONS IF WE CAN'T HANDLE THE LANGUAGE A CERTAIN LANGUAGE SO WE CAN BRING INSTRUCTORS IN THAT DO SPEAK A DIFFERENT LANGUAGE AND HELP TO WORK WITH COMMUNITIES.  BUT YEAH, THAT'S IT'S SOMETHING WE ARE ALWAYS YOU KNOW, WE REALLY CONNECT A LOT OF PEOPLE TOGETHER. WHAT ABOUT CULTURAL COMPETENCY? YEAH. DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT THE WORKFORCE I MEAN THE EQUITY. YEAH SO WE WE HAD INITIALLY A EQUITY PROGRAMS COORDINATOR WHO HAD EXPERTISE IN THAT AREA WHO WAS WORKING WITH US WHO DEPARTED. WE'RE ACTUALLY POSTING A NEW POSITION BASED UPON THAT EXPERIENCE TO REALLY HAVE AN EXPERT ON STAFF WHO CAN ADVISE HIS WORK WITH COLLEAGUES ENSURE THAT WHEN WE CHOOSE LANGUAGE TO PROMOTE A PROGRAM OR IN OUR SELECTION OF PARTNERS WE'RE DOING SO IN A WAY THAT IS RESPECTFUL AND ENGAGING AND SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO THIS PHASE TWO OF ACTIVITY.  MANY OF OUR STAFF GOES THROUGH A VARIETY OF TRAINING PROGRAMS INCLUDING IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA AND IN COMMUNITIES WHERE OUR STAFF HAVE HAVE LIVED AND WORKED IN THAT COMMUNITY FOR A LONG TIME. THEY KNOW THEIR COMMUNITY WELL AND WE WANT TO REPLICATE THAT KIND OF EXPERIENCE. WE HAVE HIRED A LOT OF NEW PEOPLE OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS SINCE COMING OUT OF COVID AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE THE EXPERIENCE OF BEING ABLE TO ENGAGE WITH THEIR COMMUNITIES EFFECTIVELY AND RESPECTFULLY. AND SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S FRONT AND CENTER FOR US. I SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH. WHAT ABOUT FIND FREE POLICIES ANY OF THAT WE ARE FIND FREE.  WE HAVE BEEN FOR SEVERAL YEARS WE STARTED WITH YOUTH AND THEN MOVED TO ADULTS AND AS YOU WOULD EXPECT OR YOU WOULD HOPE CIRCULATION ACTUALLY WENT UP AS A RESULT. SO IT BROUGHT ABOUT EXACTLY THE RIGHT DESIRED EFFECT BY REMOVING A BARRIER IF YOU LOSE A BOOK ENTIRELY YOU STILL HAVE TO MAYBE TAKE CARE OF THAT BUT CERTAINLY IF YOU'RE LATE WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF CHARGING PEOPLE FOR BEING LATE. THANK YOU. IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME FOR ME . I ONLY PURCHASE BOOKS NOW SO THANK YOU. WHAT ABOUT OUR MOBILE LIBRARIES? HAVE WE CONSIDERED THIS?  MICHAEL I THINK REFERENCED OUR EBIKE PROGRAM.  I'M NOT SURE IF COUNCILOR YOU WERE HERE DURING THAT QUESTION BUT WE DON'T HAVE A MOBILE BUS SCENARIO ANYMORE.  BUT THE E-BIKE WHICH WAS CALLED BIBLIO CYCLE AND IS NOW GOING TO BE CALLED BPL BY BIKE PEOPLE BY BIKE RIGHT SO THESE ARE BIKES WITH CARTS ON THE BACK THAT TRAVEL TO YOU KNOW FARMERS MARKETS OR POP UP SPACES OR CLOSED BRANCHES AND THE LIBRARY STAFF WILL BE THERE AND SIGN UP PEOPLE WITH CARDS THEY'RE WI-FI-ENABLED. SO IT'S LIKE OH LET ME BRANCH INTO MY PHONE THING. YEAH THAT WE SEE AT STOP AND SHOP RIGHT I'M SORRY LIKE THE OBAMA PHONE STATIONS THEY LIKE FREE OUR PHONES. THEY HAVE FREE PHONES THAT CAME DURING HIS ADMINISTRATION THAT PEOPLE WOULD SIGN UP IF THEY WERE INCOME ELIGIBLE FREE TO ALL.  OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. JUST TO JUST TO SURMISE LIKE SORT OF WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT HERE TODAY THE REPORT LOOKS FORWARD TO THAT 40 PAGES OR NOT. LET'S GET THROUGH IT. I REALLY WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT ALL THE WONDERFUL WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING. REALLY APPRECIATE HOW CANDID YOU ARE AND AND THOROUGH YOU ARE IN LISTENING AND BEING RECEPTIVE.  THE BUDGET LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT FACILITY CONVERSATION THAT'S THAT'S A HARD LIKE YOU SEE EVERY SINGLE COUNCILOR SAYING GIVE US THE THIRD FLOOR SO THAT'S THAT'S A HARD ASK THAT'S THAT'S A REAL ASK LOOKING FORWARD TO PRAGMATIC CONVERSATIONS ABOUT BUDGET AND CAN WE AFFORD IT WHERE ARE WE GOING WITH THIS AND WHAT IS IT FOR AND IN WHATEVER WAY THAT I CAN CONTINUE TO ADVOCATE. LAST BUT NOT LEAST OF COURSE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT PROCESS FOR LIBRARY NAME CHANGE DOESN'T I DON'T NECESSARILY AGAIN CAN'T CAN'T GIVE YOU A HARD POSITION ON WHETHER OR NOT IT'S THE MOVIE SCHOOL LIBRARY OR IT'S THE SAROYAN SHIRE LIKE THERE'S OTHER THINGS COMING UP NOW BUT LET'S I LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING THAT WITH YOU AS WELL. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR WORK.  I JUST ALSO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR ADVOCACY FOR YOUR FOR BEING PANELISTS TODAY FOR THE FOR THE WORK THAT YOU ALL DO FOR THE BOSTON PUBLIC LIBRARY.  I WILL LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING THIS PARTNERSHIP TO MAKE SURE THAT NOT JUST THE THREE LIBRARIES IN MY DISTRICT BUT ALL IRISH ACROSS THE CITY GET THE RESOURCES THAT THEY NEED ALL UP TO GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE ANY FINAL REMARKS IF YOU HAVE ANY. YOU KNOW, WE'D JUST LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME TALK OUTSIDE OF PAGES ABOUT ALL OF THE GREAT WORK THAT IS HAPPENING RIGHT ACROSS THE SYSTEM ABOUT THE NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY AND PROJECTS AND WORK THAT WERE WELL, WELL, WELL UNDERWAY AND SO THANK YOU FOR TO COUNCILOR MURPHY FOR SPONSORING THIS HEARING AND YOU FOR CONVENING THE HEARING UNDER THIS COMMITTEE COURSE IT WAS MY PLEASURE.  THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. IT'S GREAT FOR YOU TO COME INTO CITY HALL. MANY DEPARTMENTS ARE RIGHT HERE SO WE SEE THEM MORE OFTEN WHEN WE'RE IN THE HALLWAYS AND ON THE ELEVATORS.  BUT I APPRECIATE YOU KNOW, YOUR ADVOCACY. YOU HAVE A GREAT JOB OR ARE YOU WORKING WITH THE LIBRARIES IS A WONDERFUL THING AND AS YOU ALREADY KNEW BUT THIS WAS A WELL ATTENDED COUNCIL HEARING BECAUSE OUR CONSTITUENTS CARE RIGHT? OUR COLLEAGUES CARE ABOUT OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, WE HEAR A LOT ABOUT THE NEED AND THE SERVICES YOU PROVIDE OUR QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUES THAT MATTER AND JUST MAKE THE RESIDENTS LIFE IN THE CITY OF BOSTON BETTER. SO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO AND I KNOW I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE NEXT PANEL.  YOU KNOW THE FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY THERE I WOULD SAY ALMOST ALL MAYBE YOU HAVE A FRIENDS GROUP, RIGHT? WE HAVE THE SOUTH END HERE TODAY TO SPEAK AND ONE THING I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT CONVERSATION IS, YOU KNOW, THEY THEY WILL BRING UP SOME OF THE CHALLENGES. RIGHT. WHICH IS AN IMPORTANT THING TO TALK ABOUT ALSO. AND I THINK THERE WILL BE A GOOD BALANCE TO THIS CONVERSATION AND WE'LL THEN WHEN WE'RE HERE ABOUT THE BUDGET LIKE YOU SAID, WE'RE HERE BEFORE THE BUDGET SO WE WON'T HAVE TO FOCUS ON THE QUESTIONS WE TALKED ABOUT TODAY. WE CAN REALLY GET DOWN TO THOSE NUMBERS WHICH ARE IMPORTANT GOING INTO THE BUDGET SEASON.  SO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND YES, WILL THE LIBRARY PANELIST REMAIN SO THAT THEY CAN LISTEN TO OUR NEXT PANELIST? I CAN MAKE THE REQUEST WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO WILL YOU BE ABLE TO STAY TO LISTEN TO THE SECOND PANEL? YES, SOME OF US CAN SAY CERTAINLY FEW IF YOU PREFER. THANK YOU. BUT WITH THAT I WILL DISMISS THIS PANEL AND THEN I'LL CALL UP YVETTE AND MARLENE.  I BELIEVE YOU THAT IS VIRTUAL.  IS MARLENE HERE OKAY BECAUSE YOU'RE ME . THIS IS IVETTE JARO YES, WE HEAR YOU. THANK YOU FOR JOINING. THAT'S GREAT. UM, WE HAVE MARLENE HERE IN PERSON SO I WOULD DEFER TO MARLENE AS A START OFF AND THEN I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH IT AFTER THAT. IS THAT OKAY? THAT SOUNDS GREAT.  OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH.  THANK YOU SO MUCH. AS I WAS SITTING HERE NOT THE FIRST TIME I'VE BEEN HERE FOR THE LAST 50 YEARS ADVOCATING FOR THE SOUTHEND LIBRARY.  I'M JUST THINKING HOW WONDERFUL AN EXPERIENCE THIS IS. HERE WE ARE WITH COUNCILORS AT FLYNN ADVOCATE FOR A THIRD FLOOR IN THE LIBRARY COUNCILOR DURKAN ASKING FOR THE FENWAY LIBRARY COUNCILOR FERNANDES ANDERSON ASKING FOR EQUITY IN OPERATIONAL EXPENDITURE SO THAT THE LIBRARIES CAN OPEN AND COUNCILOR FITZGERALD WHO NEVER MET BUT HEARD A LOT OF GOOD THINGS ABOUT ADVOCATING FOR HIS LIBRARY. SO AND MY QUESTION IS WHY CAN'T WE HAVE THESE MEETINGS IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS ONCE A YEAR WITH BOSTON PUBLIC LIBRARY, THE EXECUTIVE THE EXECUTIVE TEAM THAT WAS HERE AS WELL AS SOME OF OUR IF NOT ALL OF THE BOSTON PUBLIC LIBRARY TRUST TREAT TRUSTEES THE REASON WHY WE ARE HERE AND WHY THESE COUNCILORS ARE ADVOCATING FOR US IS THAT WE HAVE BEEN ADVOCATING TO THEM FOR THE LIBRARY. IT IS ALL PART OF WORK. WE ARE VOLUNTEERS.  IT SO HAPPENS IN THE SOUTHEND IT'S A VERY ACTIVIST COMMUNITY WE CAN PUSH AND FIGHT FOR WHAT WE FEEL WE DESERVE AND WHAT NEIGHBORHOOD NEEDS BUT IT'S A VERY HARD JOB AND WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT EQUITY IT IS A COMMUNITIES LIKE THE SOUTHEND WHO CAN AFTER A LOT OF WORK ACHIEVE THEIR GOALS.  MANY OTHER COMMUNITIES DO NOT AND SO FIRST OF ALL I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR HAVING THIS MEETING ABOUT LIBRARIES OUTSIDE OF THE BUDGET HEARING BECAUSE USUALLY THE BUDGET HEARINGS ARE THE ONLY TIME WHEN ADVOCATES CAN REQUEST CRITICIZE LORD THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE INFLUENCE OVER THE BUDGET. BUT IT IS ALSO A TIME WHEN MOST OF THE DECISIONS ABOUT HOW THE BUDGET WILL BE ALLOCATED.  IT HAS BEEN MADE BY THE BOSTON PUBLIC LIBRARY.  SO IT IS AND IT IS VERY HARD FOR INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE NOT ELECTED OFFICIALS OR APPOINTED OFFICIALS TO REACH THE BOSTON PUBLIC LIBRARY'S TEAM MANY PHONE CALLS, MANY EMAILS I HAVE EMAILS FROM TWO YEARS AGO THAT WERE NEVER RESPONDED IN I HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH PEOPLE AT TWO BPL IT IS JUST REALLY HARD SO WHAT I REALLY I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU ARE EXPANDING THIS TO THIS MOMENT AND THE OTHER THE OTHER ACTORS IN THE BPL ARE THE BOSTON PUBLIC LIBRARY TRUSTEES WE HAVE A 15 MEMBER BOARD OF TRUSTEES IS THEY ARE APPOINTED BY THE MAYOR OF BOSTON AND AT THE MOMENT IT IS A IT'S A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN APPOINTED BY THE LAST AND THE CURRENT THE LAST TWO MAYORS AND A CURRENT MAYOR. THOSE TRUSTEES ARE BASICALLY INACCESSIBLE TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC. THERE ARE FOUR QUARTERLY MEETINGS A YEAR AT THE END OF WHICH PEOPLE LIKE WHO ARE VOLUNTEERS LIKE MYSELF WE HAVE 2 MINUTES TO MAKE A CASE FOR IT EVER IT IS WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE LIBRARY.  THEY DON'T HAVE TO RESPOND AND THEY OFTEN DON'T RESPOND. THERE IS NO CONTACT INFORMATION THEM AND THERE'S NO PHONE NUMBER. THEY CANNOT BE ENGAGED AND YOU HAVE TO MAKE ENORMOUS DECISIONS INCLUDING THE SELECTION OF THE BOSTON PUBLIC LIBRARY PRESIDENT SO IN OTHER WORDS PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF WHO HAVE VERY LITTLE ACCESS TO BOTH THE EXECUTIVE TEAM AND THE BOSTON PUBLIC LIBRARY TRUSTEES AND MENTORS THAT CONCERN HOURS OF OPENING HOURS THE KIND OF COLLECTIONS THE STAFFING PROGRAMING, ACCESS TO THE COMMUNITY SPACE WHICH IS SO IMPORTANT IN LIBRARIES AND BEING COMMUNITIES AND IS IN FACT THE SECOND MOST IMPORTANT ITEM IN THE BOSTON LIBRARY PUBLIC CAPITAL PLAN. IT'S A COMMUNITY GATHERING PLACE SO THE THING IS HOW ABOUT EXTENDING THIS KIND OF AN EVENT TO A REGULAR EVENT IN THE COMMUNITY WHERE REGULAR PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT ELECTED CAN ASK THE KIND OF QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE ASKED OF THE BOSTON PUBLIC LIBRARY TEAM. I WAS ALSO I THINK I WAS ALSO THINKING ABOUT THE QUESTION OF NEW LIBRARIES AS WAS BROUGHT UP BY COUNCILOR DURKIN.  THE BOSTON PUBLIC LIBRARY'S ALMOST ENTIRELY FUNDED BY MUNICIPAL MONEY. THE PRIVATE CONTRIBUTION IS REALLY SMALL PERCENTAGE WISE THIS IS NOT THE CASE IN OTHER SYSTEMS IN OTHER LIBRARY SYSTEMS TOO TRUSTEES ARE ACTIVE AND PROLIFIC FUNDRAISERS AND I RECALL ABOUT TEN OR 15 YEARS AGO WHEN I WAS HERE LOOK DOING A LOT OF RESEARCH ON LIBRARIES AND I FIND MYSELF IN SAINT PAUL, MINNESOTA WHERE THE CITY WANTED TO BUILD A NEW LIBRARY AND IT WAS GOING TO COST $14 MILLION AND THE CITY DID NOT HAVE THE MONEY.  SO THE FOUNDATION OF THEIR LIBRARY AND TRUSTEES MADE A COMMITMENT TO RAISE $7 MILLION AND THE CITY THEN CONTRIBUTED ANOTHER $7 MILLION AND THIS IS HOW THAT LIBRARY WAS BUILT.  THIS IS WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN IN THE BOSTON PUBLIC LIBRARY SYSTEM HERE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE TRUSTEES BE APPOINTED AND ASKED TO BE PROLIFIC FUND RAISERS SO THAT THE ENTIRE TASK OF FUNDING DOES NOT FALL ON THE MUNICIPAL BUDGET.  SO I THINK I'M GOING TO STOP RIGHT HERE. THANK YOU.  YVETTE, CAN YOU HEAR US?  I CAN. THANK YOU. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. OKAY.  HI. GOOD AFTERNOON AND I'LL INTRODUCE MYSELF. I'M YVETTE JARREAU AND I'M THE CURRENT PRESIDENT OF THE FRIENDS OF THE SOUTH END LIBRARY AND I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL COUNCILORS FOR THIS HEARING. IT HAS BEEN GOOD TO HEAR THE QUESTIONS AND THE ANSWERS AND SO I HAVE A FEW COMMENTS TO MAKE AND AS I MENTIONED EARLIER ,YOU KNOW, SOME OF THEM ARE POSITIVE AND SOME OF THEM ARE NOT AS POSITIVE.  SO AS YOU'VE HEARD ALREADY SINCE ABOUT OCTOBER 2019 THE SOUTHEND BRANCH HAS BEEN CLOSED WHICH IS ABOUT 44 MONTHS OUT OF THE LAST FOUR YEARS AND I WOULD HAVE TO SAY THAT I WAS QUITE DISAPPOINTED BY HOW SLOW IT TOOK, HOW LONG IT TO EVALUATE THE LIBRARY AFTER THE CATASTROPHIC FLOOD THAT CLOSED IT IN APRIL OF 22 AND WE HAVE REMAINED CLOSED SINCE IT TOOK AT LEAST 7 TO 8 MONTHS TO EVALUATE THE THE BRANCH CONDITION AND DURING THAT TIME WE FOUND IT VERY DIFFICULT TO GET INFORMATION ON WHAT WAS HAPPENING AND WHEN THERE WOULD BE SOME COMMUNICATIONS THAT WE WERE CONSTANTLY BEING ASKED BY RESIDENTS IN THE COMMUNITY AND WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION . WE WERE HOWEVER DELIGHTED WHEN WE WERE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE CONVERSATIONS THAT ULTIMATELY REALLY ENDED IN THE DECISION TO DEVELOP A NEW BRANCH RATHER THAN REPAIR THE EXISTING BUILDING WE HAD BEEN WAITING SEVERAL YEARS FOR THE START OF A PROGRAM AND STUDY FOR A NEW LIBRARY SO IT WAS VERY WELCOME THAT THIS PROCESS WAS ABLE TO START FINALLY THIS YEAR AND AS YOU'VE HEARD WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF REALLY GOOD COMMUNITY MEETINGS.  THE GOALS FOR THE THIRD COMMUNITY MEETING WERE ARTICULATED AS FINALIZING THE BRANCH BUILDING PROGRAM,  UPDATING TESTS FITS WITH REGARD TO THE NEW CONSTRUCTION POSSIBILITIES OR OPTIONS AND PRESENTING A RECOMMENDATION A PREFERRED OPTION FOR THE DESIGN AND START OF THE DESIGN PROCESS . WE HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT THIS WHICH HAS BEEN ARTICULATE AIDED BY COUNCILOR FLYNN AND PERHAPS OTHER COUNCILORS TODAY AND WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR THEIR ADVOCACY.  I'LL COME BACK TO THE ISSUE OF I'LL COME BACK TO A FINAL REQUEST AT THE END OF THIS FEW MOMENTS THAT I HAVE TO TO ADDRESS YOU.  I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE ISSUE OF TEMPORARY SERVICES WHICH HAS COME UP IN REGARDS TO OTHER BRANCHES SO I THINK IT'S REALLY RELEVANT AND I, I BELIEVE THAT THE BPL SHOULD ESTABLISH A MORE TRANSPARENT AND COMMUNICATE THAT TRANSPARENT THE ELEMENTS OF A TEMPORARY CLOSURE PROCESS THAT PROVIDES AS MUCH SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY AS POSSIBLE DURING OUR EXTENDED CLOSURE WHICH WAS UNEXPECTED DID WE HAVE OUR OUR TEMPORARY LIBRARY SERVICES HAVE RANGED FROM NOTHING TO MINIMAL AND WE SUSPECT THAT THAT WILL CONTINUE FOR AT LEAST A COUPLE MORE YEARS AS WE GET A NEW BUILDING.  AND WE HAD FOUND IT VERY DIFFICULT TO ENGAGE WITH BPO IN TERMS OF ADEQUATE TEMPORARY SERVICES EVEN FOR SUCH EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES AS WE HAVE EXPERIENCED ONLY RECENTLY HAS CHRISTINA JONES, OUR NEW LIBRARIAN AS OF MAY LAST YEAR BEEN ABLE TO OFFER SEVERAL SERVICES LIKE CHILDREN'S STORY OUR ENGLISH AS A SECOND LANGUAGE BOOK CLUB THE SHUTTLE THAT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER AND SEVERAL POP UP BOOK GIVEAWAYS IN THE LIBRARY PARK.  WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR THESE SERVICES AND WE HEAR THIS FROM THE COMMUNITY AS WELL AND WE ARE MISSING SOME VERY IMPORTANT SERVICES SPECIFICALLY BOOK PICK UP AND DROP OFF SO WE ARE GLAD TO HEAR ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF E-BIKES WITH WHAT WAS IT BPL BY BIKE I GUESS THIS IS WHAT PRESIDENT LEONARD CALLED IT. WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT THAT SO IT'S GOOD TO HEAR.  I'D LIKE TO TALK FOR A MOMENT ABOUT STAFF AND MAKE A DISTINCTION THAT MAYBE ISN'T AS OBVIOUS TO EVERYONE BUT THE LIBRARY STAFF IN A BRANCH PROVIDES A WARM AND WELCOMING EXPERIENCE ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS AND THERE'S ALMOST NOWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR THAT OTHER THAN THE LIBRARY.  AND THIS GETS TO THE WHOLE POINT ABOUT COMMUNITY AND CONNECTION WITH PEOPLE WHO USE THE LIBRARY AND LOVE IT THE LIBRARIANS AND THE STAFF THAT ARE THERE ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT THE BOOKS, ABOUT READING, ABOUT LEARNING AND THEY USE THIS EXPERTISE TO MEET PATRONS NEEDS FOR BOOKS AND RESEARCH AND CONNECTION.  AND THIS IS A KEY DIFFERENCE TO THE EXPERIENCE OF THE CENTRAL LIBRARY BRANCH LIBRARY STAFF GET TO KNOW NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTS. THEY LISTEN TO THEIR NEEDS AND THEY OFTEN FIND CREATIVE WAYS TO MEET THOSE NEEDS WHERE PEOPLE ARE AND LIBRARY BRANCH USERS ARE OFTEN DELIGHTED BY STAFF WHO HAVE FRESH IDEAS AND RESOURCES SET ASIDE FOR THEM IT IS A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE GO AND THEY CAN BECOME CONNECTED TO THE STAFF, TO OTHER RESIDENTS AND AND THAT MAKES A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE TO ALL WHO USE A BRANCH AND I COULD GO ON ABOUT THE CONNECTIONS AND ELEMENTS OF THAT BUT I FEEL LIKE IT'S A IT'S AN IMPORTANT DISTINCTION ABOUT A BRANCH LIBRARY THAT WE SHOULD ALL KEEP IN MIND.  AND THEN I WANT TO RETURN BACK FOR A MOMENT TO THE BUILDING AND THE BUILDING PROCESS BEFORE I FINISH AND I WANT TO START WITH THE REQUEST WHICH IS THAT FRIENDS OF THE SOUTH END LIBRARY AND OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY HAVE IDENTIFIED SEVERAL BUILDING PROGRAM ELEMENTS THAT HAVE NOT YET BEEN INCLUDED IN THE BUILDING PROGRAM.  IT WAS PRESENTED TO US IN THE SECOND COMMUNITY MEETING. WE REQUEST THAT BEFORE REACHING A DECISION ABOUT THE PREFERRED OPTION THAT WOULD GO INTO DESIGN. WE IN OUR YOU KNOW WE ARE ASKING FOR A COMMITMENT TO SHARE WITH US A PROGRAMING STUDY AND TEST FIT THAT FEATURES A THREE STORY BUILDING INSTEAD OF A TWO STORY BUILDING AND WE WANT THAT TO ACCOMMODATE SPECIFIC COMMUNITY NEEDS THAT HAVE BEEN ARTICULATED ALREADY.  BUT I WILL QUICKLY RUN THROUGH A DEDICATED SENIOR SPACE FOR A VARIETY OF ACTIVITIES AND CONNECTING WITH PEOPLE A DEDICATED LATINO LATINO SPACE FEATURING COLLECTIONS, COMPUTERS AND RELEVANT RESOURCES FOR THAT COMMUNITY THAT IS ADJACENT TO OUR BUILDING A FULLY FUNCTIONAL KITCHEN TO OFFER CULINARY AND NUTRITIONAL WORKSHOPS AS WELL AS SUPPORT OUR VERY FOOD ORIENTED NEIGHBORHOOD WITH REFRESHMENTS A SPACE FOR PATRONS TO STORE THEIR BELONGINGS INCLUDING STROLLERS BUT ALSO OTHER TYPES OF BELONGINGS THAT THEY HAVE WHEN THEY'RE USING THE LIBRARY . AND WE WOULD LIKE THAT THE BUILDING NOT ENCROACH ON THE ALLEY BETWEEN THE SOUTH END LIBRARY AND THOSE PEOPLE THAT LIVE NEARBY BECAUSE IT IS A FIRE LANE AND IT ALREADY IS DIFFICULT FOR HOMEOWNERS TO GET INTO THAT ALLEY FROM THAT OR TO GET INTO THEIR BACK ALLEY FROM THAT SIDE ALLEY SO THE REQUEST IS THAT THERE IS A COMMITMENT TO SHARING THIS TYPE OF ANALYSIS ABOUT THESE REQUESTS BEFORE WE REACH A DESIGN CONCEPT AND MOVE INTO THE DESIGN PHASE SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION AND WE'RE ASKING FOR A RESPECTFUL CONSIDERATION OF OUR REQUEST THAT'S IT.  THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT. WHAT I'LL DO NOW IS I'LL ALL MY COLLEAGUES TO ASK QUESTIONS TO THE PANEL STARTING WITH COUNCILOR MURPHY. THANK YOU.  THANK YOU FOR SHARING. I HAVE YOU TOUCHED ON MARLENE THE POINT I MADE THAT IT REMINDS ME OF THE SCHOOL COMMITTEE WE KNOW THEY'RE THERE. MOST PEOPLE DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW MANY OR WHAT THEIR ALL THEIR NAMES ARE BUT THEY'RE THERE SOMEWHERE AND THEY DO MAKE IMPORTANT DECISIONS. AND SO HOW DO WE CONNECT MORE FOR US ON THE COUNCIL BUT ALSO FRIENDS OF LIBRARY GROUPS AND JUST THE PUBLIC AND I THINK THAT'S A BIGGER CONVERSATION WE NEED TO CONTINUE AND I AND I DO THINK FROM THE FIRST PANEL THAT WE'RE OPEN TO TALK ABOUT THAT LIKE HOW DO WE GET THOSE DECISION MAKERS AT THE TABLE AND I'M GRATEFUL THAT BOTH OF YOU FROM THE SOUTHEND LIBRARY HERE AND I CAN PICTURE MAYBE SOMETIME THIS SUMMER WE HAVE A YOU KNOW, FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY MEETING THAT ISN'T FORMAL HERE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBER BUT MAYBE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY SOMEWHERE AND WE CAN INVITE LIBRARY STAFF IN TO JUST COME IN HERE BECAUSE I'M LEARNING A LOT JUST FROM YOU KNOW THE ONE BRANCH THERE'S SO MANY ACROSS THE CITY AND YOU TOUCHED WHICH I DO APPRECIATE ON THE SPECIFIC NEEDS AND KNOWING THAT YOU'RE LIKE SO YOU HAVE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE SURROUNDING YOU AND I KNOW WHEN WE SPOKE ON THE PHONE YOU TALKED ABOUT THE NEED FOR MORE OF LIKE SPANISH BOOKS AND LATINO LIKE JUST CULTURAL NEED FOR YOUR BRAND. SO THANK YOU FOR UPLIFTING THAT AND JUST ONE QUESTION THAT AND I KNOW EVERY GROUP IS DIFFERENT AND IN YOUR CASE YOU'RE DEALING WITH A CLOSED LIBRARY SO YOU HAVE OTHER ISSUES BUT YOU'VE BEEN ADVOCATING AND BEING SO SUCH STRONG VOLUNTEERS FOR A LONG TIME. IF YOU COULD JUST SUMMARIZE WHAT YOUR GROUP MAYBE EVEN PRE CLOSURE OF YOUR BUILDING LIKE WHAT YOU FOCUSED ON AND WHAT YOU UPLIFTED FOR YOUR A BRANCH WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR ME TO KNOW . SO I BECAME INVOLVED WITH THIS IN LIBRARY BECAUSE I WAS ESSENTIALLY A PARK ADVOCATE.  I HELPED RENOVATE TITUS SPARROW PARK AND AFTERWARDS SOMEONE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD ASKED ME HOW ABOUT YOU LOOK AT LIBRARY PARK WHICH WAS A NEEDLE PARK AND.  I BEGAN TO WORK ON THAT BUT I ALSO REALIZED VERY QUICKLY THAT I ALSO HAD TO LOOK AT THE LIBRARY ITSELF GOES TO PROBLEMS PREVALENT IN THE PARK WERE ALSO PREVALENT IN THE LIBRARY AND I BEGAN TO ADVOCATE FOR LIBRARY RENOVATION AT THAT TIME I WALKED INTO THE LIBRARY AND IT WAS BASICALLY A HOMELESS SHELTER.  THERE WERE ABOUT A DOZEN MEN SLEEPING VERY PEACEFULLY IN A SUNLIT IN THE ONE SUNLIT ROOM THAT WAS THE DOWNSTAIRS AND IT WAS REALLY IT WAS GREAT YOU KNOW, BUT ON THE OTHER HAND IT MADE A LOT OF OTHER USERS UNCOMFORTABLE.  IT IS NOT A HOMELESS SHELTER. IT IS A LIBRARY. AND SO MY EFFORTS TO RENOVATE BEGAN THEN AND SHORTLY THEREAFTER THERE I BEGAN TO ATTEND TRUSTEES MEETINGS AND FOUND OUT THAT THERE WERE PLANS TO CLOSE UP TO A THIRD OF THE BRANCHES OF THE BOSTON PUBLIC LIBRARY SYSTEM AND THAT'S WHEN THERE WAS AN ACTION I CALLED THE BOSTON GLOBE. THEY CAME TO THAT MEETING WHERE THAT VOTE WAS GOING TO BE HELD AND I REALIZED THAT ONCE THE BOSTON GLOBE AND OTHER MEDIA WERE INVOLVED THERE WAS NO WAY LIKE WE WERE GOING TO BE CLOSED WITHOUT PEOPLE KNOWING ABOUT IT. SO AFTER THAT FIGHT WAS AND I THINK THANKS TO THE BOSTON DELEGATION WHO TOLD MAYOR MENINO THAT NO MONEY WOULD BE FORTHCOMING FROM THE STATE IF ANY BRANCH WOULD BE CLOSED AFTER THAT AND BEGAN TO FOCUS ON AND AND I'M TALKING ABOUT ME BUT IT WASN'T JUST ME . THERE WAS A WHOLE GROUP OF NEIGHBORS WE BEGAN TO FOCUS ON CREATING POLITICAL POWER FOR THE LIBRARY AND WE DID THAT THROUGH PROGRAMING.  WE STARTED AN AUTHOR SERIES. WE STARTED ART EXHIBITS EXHIBITS IN THE WINDOWS.  WE HAD A NEWSLETTER AND BASICALLY WE BUILT AN ENORMOUS CONSTITUENCY FOR THE SOUTH END LIBRARY AND THIS IS HOW WE GOT HERE. THAT'S WONDERFUL. THANK YOU AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR ADVOCACY YOU'RE WELCOME.  I'M THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILOR COUNCILOR FLYNN THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.  AND I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO MARLENE AND THAT FOR THEIR TESTIMONY I ALSO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE SENIOR STAFF OF THE PUBLIC LIBRARY FOR STAYING AND I WANT TO THANK THEM FOR STAYING AND LISTENING THE CONCERNS. SO I APPRECIATE THAT IT SHOWS SHOWS RESPECT IN MY OPINION MAYBE FOR MARLENE OR FOR EVENT THIS LIBRARY AND I KNOW DAVID ALSO SUPPORTS THIS BUT THIS LIBRARY IS IS IMPORTANT FOR THE LATINO COMMUNITY AND THEY DESERVE A STATE OF THE ART LIBRARY AND I THINK IT'S CRITICAL THAT WE WORK TOGETHER TO PROVIDE THIS LIBRARY TO THE RESIDENTS OF THE SOUTH AND BUT FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT ALISON MARLENE OR EVEN WHY IS IT IMPORTANT FOR US TO ENSURE THAT THIS IS A LIBRARY THAT'S THAT HAS SPECIFIC SERVICES FOR THE LATINO COMMUNITY? I THINK IT SHOULD HAVE SPECIFIC SERVICES TO THE LATINO COMMUNITY AND I AND I ADVOCATE FOR THAT 100%.  BUT BUT FOR THE LISTENING AUDIENCE WHY THAT IMPORTANT? IT IS IMPORTANT.  I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW YOU WANT ME TO YEAH, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. MARLENE OH, OKAY. SO IT IS IT IS THE LATINO COMMUNITY IS ABOUT 15% OF THE SOUTH END WHICH HAS LIKE 38,000 RESIDENTS AND IT IS THEIR LIBRARY OR THEY HAVE NO OTHER LIBRARY ANYWHERE THEY COUNT ON THIS LIBRARY FOR THEIR BOOKS, FOR THEIR PROGRAMS AND OVER THE YEARS SEVERAL TIMES IN FACT WHEN MANY EVENTS CAME ON THE BOARD AND BEGAN TO LEARN ABOUT TAKING OVER AS PRESIDENT FROM ME I TOOK HER AT LEAST ONCE TO A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING SAID OF VICTORIA AND INTRODUCED THEM TO THE VARIOUS PROGRAMS THAT EXIST IN THE LIBRARY. BUT THE REALITY WAS THERE'S NO SIGN IT'S IN SPANISH AND THE COLLECTION FOR BOOKS FOR CHILDREN OR ADULTS IS VERY POOR . THERE ARE NO THERE'S NO LATINO PROGRAM PROGRAMING. SO I THINK THEY WERE AWARE OF IT AND EVEN MORE SO AND THEN BEFORE BEFORE WE VISITED. BUT THE FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEM IS THAT A NUMBER OF THE RESIDENTS THAT DO NOT SPEAK ENGLISH AND SO IT'S HARD FOR THEM TO NAVIGATE A LIBRARY THAT HAS NO SIGNAGE EVEN IN IN SPANISH OR PROGRAMING OR BOOKS THAT SHOW, YOU KNOW, TITLES. I REMEMBER WE ACTUALLY HAVE A VERY NICE CHILDREN'S LIBRARIAN MARGARET GARDNER WHO MADE WONDERFUL DISPLAYS IN THE BIG WINDOWS THAT GIVE ON TO MONTH STREET OF THE NEW BOOKS FOR KIDS THAT CAME IN AND I REMEMBER SEEING A LATINO MOTHER WITH HER CHILD AND THEY WERE LOOKING I THINK FOR, YOU KNOW, BOOKS THAT SORT OF WERE FOR THEM BUT THEY WERE ALL IN ENGLISH.  AND SO THESE KIND OF THINGS MATTER.  LIBRARIES ARE A TREMENDOUS RESOURCE FOR EVERYONE AND SHOULD BE AND THEY SHOULD BE FOR THE LATINO COMMUNITY AND LATINO LATINO COMMUNITY AS WELL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MARLENE. I AGREE YOU SAID IT PERFECTLY AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADD THAT THE DATA THAT THAT POPULATION OF OUR COMMUNITY IS IS BECAUSE OF WHAT MARLENE JUST DESCRIBED IS COMPLETELY YOU KNOW, IS VERY UNDERSERVED AND WE WOULD LIKE TO ATTRACT ART PATRONS FROM THAT PART OF OUR COMMUNITY AS WELL AS OTHER PATRONS WHO ARE ASIAN.  THAT COUNCILOR FLYNN YOU'VE MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY IT'S IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPAND THE VALUE OF THE BRANCH LIBRARY TO COMMUNITIES THAT WE HAVE YET TO REACH. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU WITH THAT IN BOTH OF YOU SAID IT PERFECTLY AND YOU ARE EXACTLY RIGHT THE SOUTH END HAS A LARGE ASIAN COMMUNITY AND ACTUALLY IN VICTORIA I THINK VIOLA VICTORIA IS ABOUT 20 25% MAYBE HIGHER POPULATION ASIAN AND RIGHT NEXT TO VIOLA VICTORIA ON WEST DEDHAM STREET IS THE DEVELOPMENT AND A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF THAT I WOULD SAY OVER 60 OR 70% OF THE RESIDENTS LIVING AT WEST ADAMS STREET NEXT TO VIOLA VICTORIA ARE ASIAN.  AND THERE ARE OTHER POCKETS OF THE ASIAN COMMUNITY IN AROUND THAT AREA. SO I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE WELCOMING ATTITUDE OF THE RESIDENTS OF THE SOUTH END AND THE MORE WORK THAT WE HAVE TO DO WITH THIS NEW LIBRARY AND TEMPORARY LIBRARY TO BE AS WELCOMING, WELCOMING AS WE POSSIBLY CAN AND I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS OTHER THAN TO SAY I USED TO HAVE OFFICE HOURS AT THE SOUTH END LIBRARY ONCE A MONTH AND THAT THE FIRST ROOM I USED TO CALL THE SUNROOM OR IN THE LITTLE PASSAGEWAY AND IN THE WINTER TIME WOULD BE VERY COLD OUT BUT IN THAT ROOM IT WOULD BE VERY WARM OUT BECAUSE THE SUN WOULD BE COMING IN AT YOU AND I USED TO LOVE SITTING THERE FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS TALKING TO THE RESIDENTS AS THEY AS THEY COME IN AND I TOLD THEM I WAS THE SECURITY GUARD AT THE SOUTH END LIBRARY.  BUT ANYWAY, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO MARLENE TO WEAVE THAT INTO THE SENIOR STAFF AT THE BOSTON PUBLIC LIBRARY. THANK YOU, MR CHAIRMAN.  THANK YOU, COUNCILOR . COUNCILOR FITZGERALD. THANK YOU, CHAIR MELANIE THAT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING AND FOR ADVOCATING FOR THE SOUTH AND COMMUNITY AS WELL. WELL, IT'S NOT TECHNICALLY IN DISTRICT THREE. I HAVE HAD SOUTHEND FOLKS COME UP TO ME AND ALSO OBVIOUSLY ADVOCATE FOR THIS THIRD FLOOR AND I DO SUPPORT THEM IN THAT. HOWEVER, I JUST WANT TO TRY AND BE MINDFUL TOO OF THE THE COST AND THE OPERATIONAL COSTS AND THE PHYSICAL COST THAT THE CITY HAS TO TAKE ON TO ADD THAT THIRD FLOOR. AND IN THE REALITY OF IF THAT CAN HAPPEN OR NOT.  RIGHT. SO I WILL GO TO BAT TO SEE IF WE CAN MAKE IT HAPPEN. BUT I UNDERSTAND THE THE THE OPERATIONAL HURDLES THAT MR LENNARD FACES AS WELL AS THE PHYSICAL COSTS.  SO I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER. I WAS THROWING THIS OUT THERE AND THE ARCHITECTURE AND BUILDING IS NOT MY IT'S NOT WHAT I WENT TO SCHOOL FOR BUT I WOULD HOPE THERE COULD BE SOME WAY IN THIS REBUILDING OF THE SOUTHEND LIBRARY WHERE PERHAPS IT CAN BE MADE WHERE AN ADDITIONAL THIRD FLOOR COULD BE ADDED EASIER IN THE FUTURE. I KNOW THERE'S SOME SORT OF , YOU KNOW, ARCHITECTURAL FEAT OF ENGINEERING.  I'M SURE WE COULD DISCUSS WHERE MAYBE IF WE DON'T GET IT THIS TIME AROUND IT'S NOT OUR MISS CHANCE. THERE'S ANOTHER BITE AT THE APPLE WHERE IN IF WE GET THAT CHANCE FOR A THIRD FLOOR LATER DOWN THE LINE WITH OTHER FUNDS THAT IT COULD BE ADDED AS EASIER THAN SAYING OH NOW WE HAVE TO YOU KNOW, RECREATE A WHOLE NEW BUILDING AND HOW DO WE ADD ONE FLOOR IF IT CAN BE DESIGNED WITH THAT IN MIND I THINK IT OPENS UP THE DOOR MORE FOR A THIRD FLOOR TO BE MORE LIKELY IF WE ARE NOT SUCCESSFUL THIS TIME AROUND.  JUST SOMETHING I THOUGHT I'D MENTION IS SOMETHING THAT MAYBE PERHAPS PRESIDENT YOU COULD LOOK AT NO NEED TO RESPOND BUT I THINK IT'S JUST ONE OF THE THOUGHTS I HAD AS PEOPLE APPROACHED ME ABOUT THIS. BUT UNTIL THEN I KNOW THE THE BENEFIT THAT LIBRARIES HAVE ON ALL COMMUNITIES AND EVERY LIBRARY DESERVES THE BEST ONE THAT THEY THAT THEY SHOULD GET. AND SO WE'RE HERE TO MAKE SURE THE SOUTHEND GETS THE BEST OF THOSE TOO. SO THANK YOU FOR COMING BUT NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR . THANK YOU. COULD I RESPOND?  YES, THANK YOU. SO DO SOUTHEND LIBRARY THAT EXISTS AT THE MOMENT WAS BUILT ACTUALLY OPENED IN 1971 AND AT THE TIME IT WAS 9000 SQUARE FEET. TEN YEARS LATER AN ELEVATOR WAS ADDED AND BECAUSE OF THE RULES AND REGULATIONS OF EGRESS AND INGRESS A CHUNK OF ADDITIONAL PROGRAMING FOOTAGE WAS TAKEN OUT OF THE LIBRARY AND WE BASICALLY ENDED UP FOR 50 YEARS WITH A LIBRARY THAT IS 7000 SQUARE FOOT. SO THE SOUTH END HAS A POPULATION OF 38,000 PLUS PEOPLE. SO THERE ARE STANDARDS FOR SIZES OF LIBRARIES AND IN GENERAL IN POPULATION OF 25,000 RESIDENTS GENERALLY IS ENTITLED TO A LIBRARY OF 20,000 SQUARE FEET AND THAT IS THE CASE TOO IN MANY LIBRARIES IN IN IN THE CITY OF BOSTON AND THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS NOT NECESSARILY IN ONE LIBRARY BECAUSE THAT YOU KNOW JUST SOUTHEND IS VERY DENSELY POPULATED AREA BUT BRIGHTON IS YOU KNOW THERE'S MUCH MORE ROOM.  SO FOR EXAMPLE IN A SORT OF MATTAPAN LIBRARY WHICH SERVES A POPULATION OF 36,000 PEOPLE HAS ITS 21,000 SQUARE FEET THE JAMAICA PLAIN LIBRARIES THERE ARE TWO LIBRARIES THAT TOGETHER HAVE MORE THAN 22,000 SQUARE FEET OF LIBRARY SPACE FOR A POPULATION OF 37,000. BRIGHTON HAS TWO LIBRARIES WITH A COMBINED 34,000 SQUARE FEET IN TWO LIBRARIES HYDE PARK ONE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVES 35,000 PEOPLE AND IT IS 23,000 SQUARE FEET. SO THE THREE LIBRARIES IN ROXBURY COMBINED SERVE 60 MORE THAN 60,000 RESIDENTS. BUT THERE ARE THREE LIBRARIES THAT TOTAL 50,000 SQUARE FEET AND OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD I REMEMBER IN DORCHESTER IN DORCHESTER THERE A POPULATION OF 401,000 AND THEY HAVE SIX LIBRARIES THAT TOTAL SOMETHING LIKE 80,000 SQUARE FOOT OF LIBRARY SPACE.  SO THERE ARE YOU KNOW, BE A FIT IN THERE AND I ALSO WANT YOU DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT FOR FIVE YEARS SOUTHEND IT'S 38,000 PEOPLE HAVE ZERO SQUARE FOOTAGE IN LIBRARY ACCESS SO I THINK WE DESERVE A LIBRARY TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY. MYLEENE I WILL SAY THAT THE BEST PART OF THIS JOB IS THE EDUCATION THAT YOU GET FROM FROM YOUR COLLEAGUES AND THE PEOPLE THAT YOU GET TO TALK TO AND THOSE ARE SOME FANTASTIC STATS AND THEY REALLY DO TELL A STORY. SO I APPRECIATE YOU SHARING THAT AND I'M NOW MORE KNOWLEDGEABLE OF IT. SO GLAD I ASKED THE QUESTION. I'M GLAD YOU THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR FOR FOR FOR ASKING THE QUESTION. THIS IS WHAT WE COUNT ON OUR COUNCILORS FOR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILOR ANDERSON THANK YOU.  THIS CHAIR MARLENE I JUST WANTED TO APPRECIATE YOU AND THANK YOU SO MUCH YOU AND YVETTE FOR BEING HERE. BUT ALL THE WORK AND AS YOU MENTIONED VOLUNTARILY GIVING YOUR TIME, YOUR PASSION, YOUR HEART INTO THIS IT'S A LOT OF HARD WORK. I KNOW THIS BECAUSE JUST TO KEEP UP AS A COUNCILOR WITH ALL OF THE EFFORTS WITH ALL OF THE MEETINGS AND AND NOT TALKING ABOUT WITH EXCLUDING HOME TIME AND ALL OF THE STRESSORS THAT IS ADDED WITH THOSE EFFORTS. SO I APPRECIATE YOU AND SUPPORT THE LIBRARY HAVING A SPACE.  JUST A MINOR CORRECTION ROXBURY HAS ONE LIBRARY AND I THINK THAT YES EGGLESTON SQUARE HAS ONE MISSION HILL HAS ONE, ROXBURY HAS ONE. I SEE. I JUST COMES OUT OF THE WIKIPEDIA.  OH YEAH. SO INFORMATION AS ROXBURY HAVING THREE LIBRARIANS AND SO THAT'S HOW I APPORTIONED IT WE WANT IT ALL TO BE ROXBURY. OH, OKAY. WELL, QUOTING THE SOUTH END WHICH USED TO BE ROXBURY BUT MAYBE STILL ASIAN.  IT'S ON MY EMAIL ADDRESS. I GET MAIL MY ROXBURY ADDRESS IF IT WAS ALL ONE ROXBURY RIGHT ONE ONE TOWN WE WOULD HAVE SO MANY I THINK MORE COALITIONS.  HOWEVER, I SUPPORT IT AND I THINK THAT YOU KNOW IN THE CONVERSATION I'M INTERESTED IN A CONVERSATION ABOUT BUDGET AND AFFORDABILITY. I AGREE WITH YOU WHEN YOU PUT SOMETHING OFF LIKE GETTING WHERE YOU CAN GET IT BECAUSE WHEN YOU PULL SOMETHING OFF I DON'T SEE US LIKE YEARS LATER WITH ALL DUE RESPECT AND I APPRECIATE MY COLLEAGUE FOR ACKNOWLEDGING THE EDUCATIONAL PIECE BUT WHEN YOU PUT SOMETHING OFF WHO KNOWS IT'S NOT GUARANTEED AND YEARS DECADES BEFORE THE CHANGE CAN COME NOW IS THE TIME IT'S OVERDUE. SOUTHEND DESPERATELY NEEDS A LIBRARY TELL THAT MAKES A REALLY GOOD USE WHEN IT IS OPEN OF THE TINY LITTLE SPACE THAT WE HAD THERE. AND AS I SAID I MY FRESHMAN YEAR I WAS IN I ATTENDED SNOWDEN HIGH SCHOOL SO I AM VERY FAMILIAR AND FREQUENT IN THAT LIBRARY IN THE PARKS IN THAT AREA AND SO I THINK THAT IT'S A MATTER OF GOING TO THE NEXT CONVERSATION AS SUPPORT IN US AS A COUNTY AS YOUR REPRESENTATIVE ALSO GOING TO MY COLLEAGUES AND GETTING ALL OF YOUR YOU HAVE ALL OF YOUR DELEGATES TO REPRESENT YOU YOU HAVE FOR AT LARGE COUNCILORS HERE THERE'S ONE COUNCILOR MEJIA WAS HERE AND THEN YOU HAVE ALL OF THE ABUTTING DISTRICTS RIGHT?  COUNCILOR FLYNN AND I SHARE IT. COUNCILOR FITZGERALD IS AN ABIDING DISTRICT SUPPORTING IT IN TERMS OF WHAT'S REASONABLE IN CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE THIRD FLOOR. BUT BEYOND THAT THE PROGRAMMATIC EXPENDITURE AND MAKING ENSURING THAT WE HAVE ALL THAT WE NEED IN THE LIBRARY I DON'T HAVE QUESTIONS BECAUSE I RECEIVE YOUR EMAILS AND I HAVE I READ THEM THOROUGHLY. I ANSWER MY OWN AND THEN I SEND MY REPRESENTATIVE FROM MY OFFICE IF I'M NOT ABLE TO ATTEND YOUR MEETINGS AND THERE'S BEEN LOTS OF THEM AND I'VE BEEN KEEPING UP IT MAKES TOTAL SENSE. THERE IS NOTHING ELSE THAT I CAN SAY ON RECORD. I AM SAYING THAT OFFICIALLY IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE IF WE DON'T GET THAT THIRD FLOOR IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE THAT WE HAVE TO WAIT SO LONG.  I THINK THAT THE LIBRARY HAS DONE MR DAVID IT DOES AN EXCELLENT JOB. INTERESTING.  HE'S LEADERSHIP AND HE IS VERY FORTHCOMING IN PERSON, VERY TRANSPARENT AND NOW WE HAVE TO SUPPORT HIM AND WORKING WITH OUR MAYOR ADMINISTRATION AND EVERYONE ELSE ENTAILED INVOLVED FOR US TO GET THIS MONEY AND MAKE IT HAPPEN. IT'S REALLY SIMPLE.  IT SHOULD BE AND WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO FIGHT WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO ADVOCATE FOR FOR YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I REALLY APPRECIATE IT ON BEHALF OF THE COMMUNITY AND THE FRIENDS OF THE SOUTH END LIBRARY AND MY EXCELLENT PARTNER AND SUCCESSOR YVETTE FROM ROME. THANK YOU.  THANK YOU. I GUESS WHAT I'LL SAY IS THAT AS A DISTRICT FIVE COUNCILOR I HAVE NO JURISDICTION OVER THE SOUTH END LIBRARY BUT COUNTS AS MUCH AS I DID GO TO THE HURLEY SCHOOL ON WORCESTER STREET FOR K THROUGH EIGHT AND THAT'S WHERE I LEARNED HOW TO USE A COMPUTER AT THE SOUTH END LIBRARY. SO AND I'M ALSO VERY FOND OF THE VILLA VICTORIA COMMUNITY THERE THAT COUNCILOR FLYNN MENTIONS WHICH IS A WHICH IS THE HEART OF THE PUERTO RICAN COMMUNITY IN BOSTON.  SO WHENEVER THE THE CONVERSATION STARTS ABOUT WHAT'S GOING INTO THE SOUTHEND LIBRARY I THINK IT WOULD BE BEAUTIFUL TO HONOR THAT COMMUNITY AT THAT LIBRARY TO MAKE THEM FEEL WELCOMED BECAUSE IT IS A WALK, A VERY SHORT WALKING DISTANCE FROM VILLA VICTORIA TO THE SOUTH TO CROSS THE STREET ACROSS THE STREET AND I THINK THAT THAT ACCESS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO HONOR THE CULTURE AND THE DIVERSITY OF OUR CITY. PERHAPS AGAIN DISTRICT FIVE COUNCILOR BUT I LOVE THAT LIBRARY. THANK YOU. SO WANTED TO JUST OH YES REBUTTAL ON YOUR COMMENT DISTRICT FIVE COUNCILOR BUT YOU WOULD SUPPORT A RESOLUTION TO ENCOURAGE THE MAYOR TO GET THIS LIBRARY A THIRD FLOOR? ABSOLUTELY. WE GOT HIM ON IT. YES, BUT THAT'S IT FOR ME . DO ANY OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE ANY FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS FOR THIS PANEL?  JUST THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND NO, NO, I WAS GOING TO SAY HOPE BUT NO, THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF A STRONGER RELATIONSHIP WITH ME IN YOUR COMMUNITY AT THE LIBRARY AND THANK YOU FOR ADVOCATING AND COMING TODAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I REALLY APPRECIATE AND THANK YOU COUNCILOR FLYNN AS WELL. AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IT WAS COUNCILOR FLYNN WHEN I ASKED HIM IF HE HAD IDEAS OF WHO I SHOULD INVITE TO I DO WANT TO SAY COUNCILOR FLYNN DID MENTION BOTH OF YOU AND STEPHEN FOX WHO HAD THEN CONNECTED US. SO THANK YOU. THE SOUTHEND COMMUNITY KNOW YOU HAVE A HISTORY OF BEING STRONG ADVOCATES SO THANK YOU AND UPLIFTING NOT JUST TO YOUR COMMUNITY BUT THE WHOLE CITY.  YES, I APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU DO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.  THANK YOU. ALSO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO MOLLY IN EVENT THANK YOU MR CHAIR.  THANK YOU. THANK YOU TO THE PANELISTS.  YOU MAY YOU MAY FEEL FREE TO GO OR LISTEN TO THE PUBLIC TESTIMONIES. I BELIEVE WE HAVE TWO PUBLIC TESTIMONIES VIRTUALLY.  OH OKAY. SO WE WILL NOW MOVE FORWARD WITH PUBLIC TESTIMONY WHEN YOUR NAME IS CALLED PLEASE COME DOWN TO ONE OF THE TWO PODIUMS OR VIRTUALLY STATE YOUR NAME, YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE ORGANIZATION OR AFFILIATION.  PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU SPEAK INTO YOUR MICROPHONE AND KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO 2 MINUTES. THE FIRST THING THAT I SEE ON HERE IS ROONEY CELESTIN AND I CAN HEAR ME YES, YES. OKAY. AND I HOPE YOU CAN SEE ME AND MY EVERYONE.  MY NAME IS WHITNEY CELESTIN. I'M A DORCHESTER RESIDENT AT LEAST AS OF NOW AND I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE TO TESTIFY TODAY AND WE ALL SHARED OUR BRANCHES. I HAVE TO SHOUT OUT MY COMING CAR LIBRARY. I WENT TO DORCHESTER HIGH SCHOOL THAT WAS MY BABYSITTING LIBRARY AND THEN ADAMS BRIDGE WAS MY WIGAN BRANCH WHERE I HAD MY BABY'S BROTHER'S HAND AND WE USED TO GO TO THE LIBRARY ON THE WEEKENDS AND NOW HE'S A COMPUTER ENGINEER SO I THINK THE APPEAL FOR THAT BECAUSE IT EXPOSED US AS NEW IMMIGRANT KIDS TO COMPUTER USE SO I HAVE SOME POINTS HERE AND I KNOW I ONLY HAVE 2 MINUTES SO I HAVE TO RUN THROUGH THIS AND SO I DO WANT TO THANK THE COUNCIL CHAIRPERSON FOR HOLDING THIS HEARING AND I'M GOING TO USE MY 2 MINUTES HERE FOR THREE QUESTIONS THAT I WILL FOLLOW WITH COMMENTS AFTER THE QUESTIONS. AND SO I ALSO WANT TO DO BEFORE I USE MY 2 MINUTES I WANT TO HAVE A RESPONSE TO TWO OF THE COMMENTS OUR MADE BECAUSE I'M ALSO THE FORMER AND INAUGURAL EQUITY OFFICER FOR THE BOSTON PUBLIC LIBRARY OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE PRESENT HERE THAT HAS BEEN TO MY OFFICE. WE SAT DOWN AND TALKED ABOUT SOME OF MY INITIATIVES THAT I WAS WORKING ON AND SO THE PEER NAVIGATOR PROGRAM WAS MENTIONED EARLIER BY THE LIBRARY THE DIRECTOR OF LIBRARY SERVICES AND THIS PROGRAM WAS FUNDED OVER A YEAR AGO BEFORE THE SOCIAL WORKERS STARTED. AND SO I DO HOPE MAYBE I'LL COMMITS THE PEER NAVIGATORS BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND ---------  RON OR ETHAN.  WE'RE READY TO GO, ALPHA. OKAY. WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UH, I WILL. I'M.  JUST IMAGINE ME BANGING THE GAVEL.  I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE COULD SEE ME OR HEAR ME , BUT FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS BEN WEBER. THE DISTRICT SIX CITY COUNCILOR AND I AM THE CHAIR OF THE BOSTON CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE ON LABOR WORKFORCE AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.  TODAY'S APRIL 24TH, 2024. THIS HEARING IS BEING RECORDED IS ALSO BEING LIVESTREAMED AT BOSTON GOVT BACKSLASH CITY. DASH COUNCIL DASH TV AND BROADCAST ON EXPANDED CHANNEL EIGHT OR C AND SHIRLEY TO ITS FILES CHANNEL 964. WRITTEN COMMENTS MAY BE SENT TO THE COMMITTEE EMAIL AT C C C DOT LABOR AT BOSTON.COM AND WILL BE MADE A PART OF THE RECORD AND AVAILABLE TO ALL COUNCILORS. PUBLIC TESTIMONY WILL BE TAKEN AT THE END OF THIS HEARING. INDIVIDUALS WILL BE CALLED ON IN ORDER IN THE ORDER IN WHICH THEY SIGNED UP OR APPEARED WILL FIGURE IT OUT AS WE GO ALONG AND WE'LL HAVE 2 MINUTES TO TESTIFY EACH. IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN TESTIFYING VIRTUALLY, PLEASE EMAIL OUR CENTRAL STAFF LIAISON RON COBB AT ROM-COM. THAT'S TO BE COBB AT BOSTON.COM FOR THE LINK AND YOUR NAME WILL BE ADDED TO THE LIST.  TODAY'S HEARING IS ON DOCKET NUMBER 0475 IN ORDER FOR A HEARING REGARDING BIANNUAL REVIEW OF THE BOSTON EMPLOYMENT COMMISSION AND BOSTON RESIDENTS JOBS POLICY. THIS MATTER WAS SPONSORED BY ME COUNCIL PRESIDENT LOUIJEUNE AND COUNCILOR BRIAN MORRELL AND WAS REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON MARCH SIX, 2024. WE ARE CONDUCTING THIS HEARING PURSUANT TO CITY OF BOSTON CODE CHAPTER EIGHT, SECTION EIGHT, DASH 9.9 WHICH STATES AND I'LL JUST READ THIS OUT BECAUSE THERE'S AN ORDINANCE WHICH GOVERNS THIS VERY QUICKLY. IT STATES EACH YEAR IN APRIL IN OCTOBER THE BOSTON CITY COUNCIL WILL HOLD A HEARING TO REVIEW THE WORK OF THE BOSTON PLANNING COMMISSION DURING THE PRECEDING SIX MONTHS BASED ON A REPORT THAT ITEMIZE ONE THE NUMBER OF COMPLIANCE DETERMINATIONS TO THE NUMBER OF DEVELOPERS, GENERAL CONTRACTORS, CONSTRUCTION MANAGERS AND SUBCONTRACTORS DETERMINED OUT OF COMPLIANCE. THREE THE NUMBER OF SANCTIONS LEVIED OR THE AMOUNT OF SANCTIONS LEVIED. FIVE THE NUMBER OF SANCTIONS RECEIVED BY DEVELOPERS AND GENERAL CONTRACTORS AND SUBCONTRACTORS IN EACH OF THE 22 TRADES. SIX THE NUMBER OF WORK HOURS TRADE BY TRADE. SEVEN THE PERCENTAGE OF THE TOTAL HOURS TRADE BY TRADE PERFORMED BY BOSTON WORKERS PEOPLE OF COLOR AND WOMEN DURING THE PRECEDING SIX MONTHS AND EIGHT THE BOSTON EMPLOYMENT COMMISSION WILL ALSO PROVIDE DATA AND INFORMATION THAT WILL ENABLE THE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AS TO WHETHER THE GOAL IS FOR PEOPLE OF COLOR OR FEMALE WORKERS SHOULD BE RAISED. JUST TO SET THE TABLE FOR FOLKS THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR TODAY I AM JOINED BY MY COLLEAGUES IN ORDER OF ARRIVAL. MADAM PRESIDENT RUSSI LOUIJEUNE CITY COUNCILOR ENRIQUE PEPEN COUNCILOR JULIAN HERE COUNCILOR BRIAN MORRELL AND I GUESS COUNCIL WHO ARE EL WANTS TO SPEAK. HE NEEDS TO ACCEPT THE INVITATION OF THE PANELISTS. SO I WAS TOLD THAT THE ADMINISTRATION HAS A HARD STOP IN ABOUT 20 MINUTES OR SO FOR CHIEF IN LIGHT OF THAT I WOULD WE'RE GOING TO SKIP OPENING REMARKS UNTIL AFTER A PRESENTATION FROM OUR OUR PANELISTS.  SO I WILL HOPE SO JUST BY WAY OF INTRODUCTION. WE HAVE THE CHIEF OF WORKER EMPOWERMENT AND THE DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, TRAN NGUYEN. WE HAVE DEPUTY CHIEF OF WORKER PARLIAMENTARY PROGRAM IN BRAZIL, BRAZIL AND BRAZIL AND WE HAVE THE BOSS AND RISEN SHOPS POLICY MANAGER CHRISTOPHER BROWN.  I AM NOT SURE IF THERE IS SOMEBODY I'M MISSING. IT LOOKS LIKE IT.  SO I GUESS CHIEF, WE'RE READY FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. GREAT. THANK YOU AND TREND WOULD BE MY PREFERENCE AND NO NEED FOR CHIEF.  EVERYONE ELSE YOU KNOW I AM A WORKER JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE . SO THANK YOU. I WANT TO THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT AND THEN ALSO ALL THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO ARE HERE. I WANT TO THANK COUNCILOR WEBER FOR WORKING WITH US CONSISTENTLY BECAUSE WE WANT TO HEAR CONSTITUENTS FEEDBACK AND THEN WE ARE IN THE COMMUNITY AND WE ARE WORKING TO LISTEN AND TO LEARN BECAUSE EVERY DAY WHAT WE DO OUR JOB IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THINGS ON THE GROUND IS OPERATIONALIZE IN POLICY AND PRACTICES. SO I WANT TO THANK ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH US EVEN BEFORE THIS HEARING. I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE CITY STAFF PUTTING THESE MEETINGS TOGETHER. WE KNOW IT'S NOT EASY TO COORDINATE DO REMARKS, DRAFT THEM AND SCHEDULE SO THOSE LITTLE THINGS MEAN A LOT TO US. SO I WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO CITY WORKERS ALSO A SHOUT OUT TO WORKER EMPOWERMENT CABINET STAFF PUTTING DATA TOGETHER CHRIS BROWN AND HIS TEAM REALLY MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THE MOST UPDATED ACCURATE INFORMATION AS POSSIBLE TO PRESENT.  JUST JUST TO CLARIFY WHILE I HAVE A HARD STOP, OUR PANELISTS AND OUR STAFF ARE HERE TO ANSWER ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. I'M ALSO HAPPY TO FOLLOW UP WITH ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS IF WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO ANSWER THEM. SO THIS IS A CONTINUOUS DIALOG AND CONVERSATION WE WANT TO HAVE WITH YOU NOT JUST A PRESENTATION.  I'M GOING TO DEFER TO SOMEONE TO DO SHARE THIS THE THE POWERPOINT AND WHAT I'LL DO IS JUST KIND OF GIVE A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF OUR WORKER EMPOWERMENT CABINET. IT'S FAIRLY NEW OUR WORK HASN'T BEEN OUR VALUES. OUR COMMITMENT, OUR LOVE FOR THIS WORK HAVE ALWAYS BEEN THERE. BUT THE CABINET IS FAIRLY NEW FOR ABOUT TWO AND A HALF YEARS IT SEEMS LIKE 20 YEARS BUT OUR WORK REMAINS THE CORE AND REMAINS THE SAME.  NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. I THINK MANY OF YOU WE'VE WORKED WITH IN TERMS OF THE THINKING POLICY PROGRAM IN THE PRACTICE AND LISTENING TO OUR RESIDENTS AND NEIGHBORHOODS ON THE GROUND. SO WE WILL BE DOING OUR PANELISTS INCLUDE MYSELF WHO HAS WHO HAVE THE HONOR OF SERVING THE CONSTITUENTS IN THE CITY OF BOSTON JODY SUGARMAN ROSEN DEPUTY CHIEF CHRIS BROWN BJP MANAGER AND MICHAEL AND SENIOR RESEARCHER DATA SCIENTIST AT THE BOSTON PLANNING DEVELOPMENT AGENCY WHO ARE OUR RESEARCH COLLEAGUE AND ARM OF THIS WORK. NEXT SLIDE. SO WE WILL GO THROUGH THIS HEARING AS AN IT IS A BI ANNUAL AND ANNUAL UPDATE. AND JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE WHILE THIS IS PROCEDURAL AND HAS BEEN SCHEDULED, WE JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE'RE ALWAYS OPEN TO LISTENING AND TO LEARNING SO DON'T THINK THAT THIS PARTICULAR HEARING IS THE END ALL BE ALL IT IS AN UPDATE TOUCH POINT IN WHICH WE CAN ENGAGE AND WE WANT TO LISTEN AND LEARN. THAT'S OUR JOB. SO WE'RE GOING TO GIVE A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE WORKER EMPOWERMENT CABINET, THE BJP HISTORY AND COMPLIANCE PROCEDURES BJP PROJECT COMPLIANCE DATA SANCTIONS ECONOMIC IMPACT ANALYSIS FROM 2023 THE BOSTON RESIDENT JOBS POLICY BANK AND THEN ALSO THE BOSTON EMPLOYMENT COMMISSION.  AGAIN, THIS IS GOING TO BE MORE THAN 20 MINUTES ONLY MY TIME WILL BE 20 MINUTES OR SO. I'M GOING TO STAY AS LONG AS I CAN BUT OUR STAFF PANELISTS WILL BE HERE TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS TO PROVIDE THIS REVIEW. WE ALSO WANT YOU TO KNOW AND CAVEAT BY SAYING JUST SO FOR TO RESPECT EVERYONE'S TIME WHAT WILL BE PRESENTED WILL BE MORE OF AN OVERVIEW AND WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THIS AS SUCCINCT AS POSSIBLE. JUST NOTE THAT THERE ARE A LOT MORE INFORMATION WE CAN PROVIDE SO IF THERE'S QUESTIONS AND FOLLOW UP WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT AS WELL. SO DON'T THINK THAT THIS MEETING IS AN END ALL BE ALL. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.  JUST A QUICKLY I'LL GO THROUGH SOME PILLARS OF OUR CABINET.  MANY OF YOU ARE NEW MEN. SOME OF YOU HAVE HEARD IT AND MANY OF YOU HAVE SEEN AND HEARD DIFFERENT BITS AND PIECES OF IT . SO THE OVERALL GOAL AND MISSION OF OUR WORK OF THE WORKER EMPOWERMENT CABINET ADVANCES THE WELL-BEING OF BOSTON WORKERS IN THE PUBLIC AND PRIVATE SECTORS. WE WORK WITH WORKERS AND EMPLOYERS TO ENGAGE THEM IN A MORE MEANINGFUL ROLE STRUCTURE SO THAT IT COULD BE A WIN WIN FOR ALL STAKEHOLDERS. WE DO THIS BY SETTING THE CITY'S FUTURE POLICY AND VISION FOR WORKERS. WE REGULATE, OVERSEE AND IMPROVE WORKPLACE CONDITIONS AND HEALTH FOR WORKERS AND FAMILIES HERE IN BOSTON. AND WE ARE EXPANDING ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES FOR WORKERS TO QUALITY JOB SKILLS TRAINING AND CAREER PIPELINES.  ALL OF THEM ARE INTERCONNECTED BUT VERY UNIQUE IN A WAY IN WHICH WE DELIVER OUTCOMES AND IMPACT FOR THE CITY OF BOSTON RESIDENTS. IN APRIL OF 2023, THE BOSTON RESIDENT JOBS POLICY OFFICE MOVED INTO MOVED FROM THE OFFICE OF SUPPLIER DIVERSITY UNDER CHIEF E2 UNDER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INTO LABOR COMPLIANCE WITHIN THE WORKER PROTECTION IN OUR CABINET AND THAT IS TO JUST STREAMLINE, MAKE IT EASIER FOR THE END USERS, FOR WORKERS AND FOR BUSINESSES AND EMPLOYERS WHO ARE WORKING WITH US ON COMPLIANCE.  AND SO THERE'S FOUR MAJOR DEPARTMENTS WE'RE MOVING INTO THREE.  ONE IS OBVIOUSLY OFFICE OF WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT.  TWO IS A CENTER FOR WORKING FAMILIES. TWO TO PROVIDE CREDIT BUILDING AND THEN ALSO ACCESSING EARNED INCOME TAX CREDITS AND OTHER TOOLS TO MOVE LOWER WAGE WORKERS UP THE ECONOMIC LADDER. WE'VE WORKED WITH CHILDCARE TAX CREDITS TO ENSURE THAT THAT GETS INTO FAMILIES AND PROVIDING THOSE SERVICES.  OBVIOUSLY YOU'LL HEAR MORE ABOUT THE LABOR COMPLIANCE AND WORKER PROTECTIONS AND THEN EVERYBODY LOVES THIS PIECE NOT THAT YOU DON'T LOVE THE OTHER PIECE BUT THE YOUTH EMPLOYMENT AND OPPORTUNITY DEPARTMENT THAT WORKS ON CAREER EXPLORATION MOBILITY FOR YOUNG PEOPLE AND OF COURSE OUR SUMMER JOBS PROGRAM. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.  AND SO IN PARTICULAR WE'RE GOING TO HONE IN ON ONE DEPARTMENT THAT IS A RELEVANT TO THIS MEETING AND THIS HEARING WHICH IS CONNECTED TO THE BOSTON RESIDENT JOBS POLICY WHICH IS THE OFFICE OF LABOR COMPLIANCE AND WORKER PROTECTIONS IS BOSTON'S CENTRAL RESOURCE FOR WORKERS.  WE PROTECT AND PROMOTE LABOR STANDARDS AND POLICIES THAT CREATE FAIR WORKPLACES FOR ALL WORKERS. AND JUST A CAVEAT IS THAT WE CAN ONLY DO THIS WORK IF WE HAVE DEEP PARTNERSHIPS IN DEEP EMPLOYER ENGAGEMENT. EVERY TIME WHEN WE DO AN ORDINANCE WHEN WE DO A POLICY, WHEN WE MOVE ON CERTAIN ACTION STEPS, WE ALWAYS ENGAGE EMPLOYERS BECAUSE THEY NEED TO BE AT THE TABLE WHEN WE'RE WORKING WITH MOVING THE WORKERS TO A BETTER PLACE. SO THERE ARE SEVERAL COMPONENTS WITHIN THE LABOR COMPLIANCE OFFICE. ONE IS THAT OBVIOUSLY WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT AN UPDATE THE BJP. IT SETS HIRING GOALS FOR BOSTON RESIDENTS, PEOPLE OF COLOR AND WOMEN ON PUBLIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS AND PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS OVER 50,000 SQUARE FEET. A QUICK CAVEAT IS THAT WE KNOW THAT THERE IS A LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE WITH BJP. OUR STAFF IS WORKING DILIGENTLY TO STREAMLINE BACKEND DATA COLLECTION, MAKE IT MORE EFFICIENT SO WE CAN REPORT OUT AND WE'RE WORKING WITH EMPLOYERS AND DEVELOPERS TO SEE WHERE THAT SWEET SPOT IS WITHOUT COMPROMISE THINK THE INTEGRITY OF THE COMPLIANCE AND THEN OUR PRIORITY TO RESIDENTS AND BOSTON RESIDENTS AND MOVING THEM INTO THESE RELEVANT JOBS. SO WHILE WE WHILE WE ENGAGE WITH EMPLOYERS WE DO NOT WANT TO COMPROMISE THE INTEGRITY OF WHAT WE HOLD UP AND VALUE FOR WORKERS.  YOU'LL HEAR MORE ABOUT THAT. IT IS AN ONGOING PROCESS WITH BJP SO KUDOS TO STAFF TO REALLY GO THROUGH ALL THE INCREMENTS OF LABOR INTENSIVE OF OPERATIONAL NUTS AND BOLTS TO MAKE IT WORK EVERY SINGLE DAY.  THE BOSTON JOBS LIVING WAGE AND PREVAILING WAGE ORDINANCE THAT REQUIRES ALL WORKERS PROVIDING LABOR FOR A JOB CONTRACTED WITH THE CITY OF BOSTON OVER $20,000 OR MORE BE PAID A LIVING WAGE OR AT LEAST 17.55 ARE UPDATED ANNUALLY AND THAT BUILDING SERVICE WORKERS BE PAID THE PREVAILING WAGE.  WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THAT FOR OVER A DECADE AND IT ALSO REQUIRES FIRSTSOURCE HIRING AGREEMENTS AGAIN, WE JUST DON'T WANT TO DO AGREEMENTS AND COMPLIANCE TOOLS. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE PRACTICES WORK FOR WORKERS AND EMPLOYERS AT THE SAME TIME. BOSTON WAGE THEFT EXECUTIVE ORDER REQUIRES CONTRACTORS DISCLOSE ANY PREVIOUS WAGE AND HOUR VIOLATION IS DURING BIDDING PROCESS AND LEVERAGES THE AUTHORITY OF THE BOSTON LICENSE BOARD TO ENSURE THAT EMPLOYERS ARE PAYING THEIR WORKERS LAWFULLY.  WE ARE WORKING TOWARDS AN ORDINANCE WHICH HAS BEEN DIRECTED BY MAYOR WU. THIS IS A PRIORITY OF HERS AS WELL AS MANY OTHER COMPONENTS OF THE CABINET AND OTHER AGENCIES ACROSS THE CITY. KUDOS TO COUNCILOR WEBER FOR WORKING CLOSELY WITH US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WE GET IT RIGHT FOR BOSTON WORKERS.  OBVIOUSLY MANY OF YOU HAVE WORKED TO CHAMPION AND SHEPHERD THROUGH THE CONSTRUCTION AND DEMOLITION SAFETY ORDINANCE. WE DON'T HAVE TO TELL YOU HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS JUST A SIMPLE STEP OF SAFETY PLANS TRAINING FOR OSHA, MAKING SURE EVERYBODY'S ON BOARD. YOU'VE HEARD IT EVERY YOU'VE HEARD THE RECENT ONE WITH SUFFOLK CONSTRUCTION AND THE SOUTH STATION WORK WORK HAS BEEN HALTED UNTIL ALL THE SAFETY PLANS HAVE BEEN REVIEWED . YOU'VE SEEN MANY OTHER NON-MEDIA WORK INCIDENCES WHERE WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT DEVELOPERS AND EMPLOYERS ARE PROVIDING SAFETY PLANS FOR WORKERS. SOMETIMES YOU DON'T SEE WHAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU AND IT DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE NOT DOING THE WORK.  WHAT GOES IN THE BACK END IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. I MEAN YOU'LL HEAR MORE ABOUT THE WAYS IN WHICH WE HAVE PROVIDED OVER 300 ESD WORKERS CONTRACTORS, SMALL CONTRACTORS TRAINING ON OSHA SAFETY PLANS A VARIETY OF THINGS. NO NEWS IS GOOD NEWS . SO WHATEVER.  SO THAT MEANS THAT WORKERS ARE GOING BACK BACK HOME SAFELY TO THEIR FAMILIES SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT SOMETIMES A LOT OF THAT BACK END PREVENTS WORKER ACCIDENTS AND LIVES IN THE FRONT END. OBVIOUSLY OUTREACH AND EDUCATION IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO OUR OFFICE TO ENSURE WORKERS KNOW THEIR RIGHTS AND HOW TO ACCESS THOSE RIGHTS. SOME OF YOU OR MANY OF YOU WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH YOUR OFFICES ON THE KNOW YOUR RIGHTS DEEP INTO THE COMMUNITY AND HAVING THESE RESOURCE FAIRS THAT ONE OF THE BIGGEST BENEFITS OF THESE WORKER RIGHTS KNOW YOUR RIGHTS FAIRS IS FOR THOSE WHO ARE UNDOCUMENTED AND THOSE WHO DON'T SPEAK WHO SPEAK A LANGUAGE OTHER THAN ENGLISH BECAUSE THEY SOMETIMES THEY DON'T TRUST THE CITY GOVERNMENT, SOMETIMES THEY DON'T, YOU KNOW, MAKE THOSE CALLS BECAUSE THEY ARE AFRAID AND THAT'S OKAY. WHAT WE DO IS WORK WITH PARTNERS TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS INFORMATION GETS ON THE GROUND FOR THOSE WHO WE DON'T EVEN SEE OR THOSE WE ARE LABELED AS INVISIBLE. SO OUR WORK AND THOSE FAIRS HAVE PHENOMENAL IMPACTS.  I WANT TO THANK EVERY CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH US TO GET THE WORD OUT TO THESE FAIRS THROUGHOUT NEIGHBORHOODS.  NEXT SLIDE.  SO HERE YOU ARE IS ONE OF THE EXAMPLES OF OUR UPCOMING LABOR COMPLIANCE AND WORKER PROTECTIONS ACTIVITIES AND EVENTS. IT KIND OF GOES THROUGH THE DATES HERE AND WHERE THEY ARE IN VARIOUS NEIGHBORHOODS WHO WE COLLABORATE WITH WORKER CENTERS, THE BRAZILIAN WORKER CENTER, THE CHINESE PROGRESSIVE ASSOCIATION, ALL OF OUR PARTNERS WHO YOU'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH WE WORK WITH YOU AND YOUR STAFF TO GET THE WORD OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AND SO WE WE HAVE SOME INFORMATION AND FOLLOW UP FOLLOW UP IF YOUR OFFICE IS INTERESTED IN CONTINUING THE COLLABORATION AND I'LL STOP THERE AND HAND IT OVER TO THE NEXT SPEAKER AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. I'M GOING TO STAY ON AS LONG AS I CAN BUT OUR STAFF AND PANELISTS WILL BE HERE TO PRESENT AND ANSWER QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.  THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND JUST JUST BRIEFLY LIKE TO NOTE THAT WE'VE BEEN JOINED BY COUNSELORS ED FLYNN AND JOHN FITZ, GERALD AND ANTRIM. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING IN AND WORKING WITH OUR OFFICE AND BEING AVAILABLE.  YOU KNOW, I HOPE NEXT TIME WE DO THIS IN OCTOBER YOU CAN STICK AROUND A LITTLE LONGER AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU AS WE GO FORWARD.  SO IF WE GO TO COUNSELOR, DO YOU WANT US TO GO INTO THE IN DEPTH PRESENTATION ON BATTERIES AND JOBS QUALITY COMPLIANCE AND DATA NOW? I THINK SO, YES. I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELP US.  YEAH. THANK YOU. SO IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE AND I'M GOING TO HAND IT OVER TO CHRIS BROWN, THE MANAGER OF BOSS PRESIDENT JOBS POLICY WE PREPARED BECAUSE WE KNOW THERE ARE SOME NEW COUNSELORS A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON HOW WE MONITOR COMPLIANCE AND THE HISTORY OF THE BATTERIES AND DRUG POLICIES. WE THOUGHT THAT CONTACTS WOULD BE USEFUL SO HAND IT OVER TO YOU, CHRIS. EXCELLENT.  GOOD STORY. GOOD MORNING COUNSELOR OF STAKEHOLDERS AND ALSO THE PUBLIC. MY NAME IS CHRISTOPHER BROWN. I'M THE MANAGER OF THE BOSTON RESIDENCE SHOP JOBS POLICY PROGRAM. SO WE'RE GOING TO START OFF WITH A LITTLE HISTORY OF THE BJP ORDINANCE.  THE FIRST BJP ORDINANCE WAS SIGNED AND APPROVED IN 1983 AND IT CALLED FOR 50% OF THE TOTAL WORK HOURS AND TO BE BOSTON RESIDENTS 25% OF THE TOTAL EMPLOYEE WORK HOURS TO BE FOR PEOPLE OF COLOR AND 10% TO BE FOR WOMEN AND THAT WOULD BE FOR PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT OF 100,000 SQUARE FEET AND FOR ALSO FOR PUBLIC PROJECTS. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.  SO THE ORDINANCE HAS BEEN UPDATED AND AMENDED SEVERAL DIFFERENT TIMES SINCE 1983. THE MOST RECENT AMENDED ORDINANCE TOOK PLACE IN JANUARY OF 2017 AND SO IT APPLIES TO PROJECTS THAT ARE OVER 50,000 SQUARE FEET PRIVATE PROJECTS AND ALL PUBLIC PROJECTS PROJECTS THAT RECEIVE PUBLIC FUNDING.  AND SO THE GOALS ARE 51% BOSTON RESIDENTS, 40% PEOPLE OF COLOR AND 12% WOMEN. AND ALSO IN THE NEW ORDINANCE WE ALSO HAVE WHAT WE CALL OUR PRACTICE GOALS FOR ALL APPRENTICES AND THIS IS A WAY TO ENCOURAGE CONTRACTORS TO HOPEFULLY BRING IN THE INDIVIDUALS THAT WE'RE ADVOCATING FOR.  AND SO THOSE GOALS DIRECTLY MIRROR THE OVERALL WORKFORCE GOALS OF THE 54% BOSTON RESIDENT, 40% PEOPLE OF COLOR AND 12% WOMEN SO.  NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.  AND ALSO PART OF THE 20 2017 ORDINANCE. NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE AN INCREASED WORK WORK OUR PERCENTAGES BUT THERE'S ALSO SOMETHING CALLED SEVERAL COMPLIANCE MEASURES THAT WE ENFORCED THAT WE ENFORCE AND THEY WOULD BE ATTAINED PRE-CONSTRUCTION MEETINGS PROVIDING WEEKLY CERTIFIED PAYROLLS, ATTENDING CORRECTIVE ACTION MEETINGS APPEARING AT THE BOSTON EMPLOYMENT COMMISSION MEETING PROVIDING COMMUNICATIONS CONFIRMATIONS,  QUARANTINING WORKFORCE PROJECTIONS AND OTHER DOCUMENTS ,PROVIDING REFERRALS TO THE JOBS BANK.  ANY INDIVIDUALS THAT YOU KNOW WALK UP THE CONSTRUCTION SITES SEEKING EMPLOYMENT THERE'S AN APPLICATION PROCESS AND WE WOULD LIKE THOSE APPLICATIONS TO MAKE ITS WAY BACK TO OUR JOBS BASED PERSON AND ALSO VERIFY IN BOSTON RESIDENTS. SO THE ORDINANCE CAN BE ENFORCED IN TERMS OF FINDING AND PENALTIES ASSOCIATED WITH THESE SEVEN EFFORTS. THE FINES AND CLEARLY THESE DO NOT RELATE TO YOU KNOW, THE PERCENTAGES THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE.  SO TO THE RIGHT YOU CAN SEE FINES TO THE MAXIMUM LEVEL JUST THIS FINES TO THE MAXIMUM OF $300 FOR EACH VIOLATION OF VIOLATION OCCURS WHERE A GENERAL CONTRACTOR CONSTRUCTION MANAGER OR SUBCONTRACTOR DOES NOT COMPLY WITH THE ORDINANCE EACH NIGHT EACH DAY OF NONCOMPLIANCE WOULD BE CONSIDERED A SEPARATE VIOLATION ALSO CREATION OF A RECORD OF NONCOMPLIANCE WITH THE CITY WOULD WITH CITY POLICY THAT MAY BE CONSIDERED WHEN AWARDING FUTURE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTS ON CITY FUNDED PROJECTS. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.  ALL RIGHT. SO CURRENTLY ON STAFF WE ARE WE WE HAVE EIGHT CONSTRUCTION MONITORS A.K.A COMPLIANCE OFFICER.  ON AVERAGE WE HAVE ABOUT 120 CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS PER YEAR . AND AND SO THOSE ARE COMPLIANCE OFFICERS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR NOT ONLY TO MEASURE THE CIVIC COMPLIANCE EFFORTS THE CONTRACTORS HAVE TO ADHERE TO BUT ALSO OF COURSE TO WORK FOR THE WORK HOURS. THE WORK FORCE PERCENTAGES ARE 5140 AND 12. SO WE HAVE FOUR DIFFERENT PUBLIC PROJECTS THAT ARE PUBLIC DEPARTMENTS FOR THE PUBLIC PROJECTS THAT ARE SUBJECT TO US THE BJP OFFICE IN TERMS OF MONITORING THOSE THOSE NINE DEPARTMENTS THOSE DEPARTMENTS ARE THE MAYOR'S OFFICE OF HOUSING FORMALLY DEPARTMENT OF NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT AND THE COMPLIANCE MONITORS FOR THAT DEPARTMENT ARE ROBERT WILSON AND SO SO REBURIAL DO WE ALSO HAVE THE PUBLIC FACILITIES DEPARTMENT AND MANUEL BARBOSA IS THE COMPLIANCE OFFICER FOR THAT DEPARTMENT WHICH ALSO INCLUDES THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS THERE WE HAVE PARKS AND RECREATION.  PATRICIA MCGEE OKLA IS THE COMPLIANCE OFFICER FOR THAT DEPARTMENT AND PUBLIC WORKS WOULD BE NELSON NELSON COLLIER . AND SO WE ALSO HAVE PROBABLY PRIVATE PROJECTS THAT WE OVERSEE AND THOSE ARE THE PROJECTS THAT OVER 50 SQUARE FEET. AND SO THAT THERE'S A MIXTURE OF MONITORS THAT OVERSEE THOSE PROJECTS AND IT WOULD BE PAMELA RUFO CELSO RIBEIRO PATRICIA NELSON YOU STACY WATCH IT AND TO KARLA TO BE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.  ALL RIGHT. THIS IS JUST A LITTLE GRAPH OF YOU KNOW, JUST A VISUAL OF THE BJP ORDINANCE COMPLIANCE MIND AND PROCESS. IT JUST GIVES YOU ALL OF THE DIFFERENT STEPS THAT WE GO THROUGH WHEN WE'RE MONITORING THE PROJECT AND WE JUST DO THIS OVER AND OVER AGAIN.  YOU KNOW, EACH TIME WE GET A NEW PROJECT.  ALL RIGHT. NEXT NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.  ALL RIGHT. SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE BOSTON RESIDENT JOBS POLICY COMPLIANCE DATA.  SO THE DATA THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT ARE IS FOR THE LAST SIX MONTHS AND SO AND THAT WOULD BE FROM OCTOBER FIRST, 2023 UP UNTIL MARCH 31ST OF 2024 WE HAD NINE SIX OVERALL ACTIVE PROJECTS.  24 OF THOSE PROJECTS WERE PRIVATE PROJECTS BUT THOSE ARE USUALLY THE DOWNTOWN PROJECTS,  THE PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THE SEAPORT AREA, THE LARGE PROJECTS THAT ARE OVER 100,000 SQUARE FEET AND WE HAD 72 CITY OF BOSTON PROJECTS AND THOSE ARE THE PUBLIC PROJECTS THOSE PROJECTS IN SOME WAY EITHER ENTIRE OR A PORTION OF THOSE PROJECTS WERE SOMEHOW FUNDED BY TAXPAYER MONEY TAXPAYER FUNDS.  SO 16 OF THOSE PROJECTS WERE FROM THE PUBLIC FACILITIES DEPARTMENT. THOSE ARE CITY BUILDINGS 17 FROM PARKS AND RECREATION, 14 FROM PUBLIC WORKS. THAT WOULD BE THE STREETS AND SIDEWALKS AND 25 FROM THE MAYOR'S OFFICE OF HOUSING AND THAT WOULD YOU KNOW, WOULD BE FOR THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.  AND SO THERE'S A BREAKDOWN HERE OF THE PRIVATE PROJECTS AND THE PUBLIC PROJECTS AND ALSO GIVE YOU AN OVERALL TOTAL. SO FOR PRIVATE PROJECTS WE HAD ABOUT 2,600,000 OVERALL WORK HOURS AND WE CAME IN AT 22%. BOSTON WAS A 34% PEOPLE OF COLOR AND 7% ONE MONTH FOR THE PUBLIC PROJECTS WERE 790000 HOURS 21% BOSTON RESIDENT 40% PEOPLE OF COLOR AND 6% WOMEN. AND SO THE GRAND TOTAL IS WE HAD ABOUT 3,500,000 OVERALL WORK HOURS 21% BOSTON RESIDENT 35% PEOPLE OF COLOR AND 7% WOMEN. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.  ALL RIGHT.  SO JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BREAKDOWN OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT THOSE PROJECTS YOU KNOW THAT I JUST WENT OVER IN THE BREAKDOWN OF WHERE THOSE PROJECTS ARE LOCATED. SO DORCHESTER BEING THE LARGEST NEIGHBORHOOD EVERY YEAR USUALLY IS AT THE TOP IN TERMS OF PROJECTS IN HAVING 15 AUSTIN BRIGHTON WE'RE SEEING A LOT MORE WORK IN THE AUSTIN BRIGHTON AREA ALSO BOTH AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND A COUPLE OF PRIVATE PRIVATE PROJECTS AS WELL. AND AND SO ROXBURY WE HAD 11. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE LAST CATEGORY VARIOUS LOCATIONS OF 15. SO THAT WOULD BE PROJECTS THERE THAT ARE IN MORE THAN ONE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THAT WOULD BE PRIMARILY PUBLIC WORKS PROJECTS. YOU MIGHT HAVE A CONTRACT ONE CONTRACT CONSIST OF DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS SO THEY'RE PAID IN STREETS IN ROXBURY AND DORCHESTER, FOR EXAMPLE.  BUT IT WOULD BE CONSIDERED ONE CONTRACT IN ONE PROJECT.  NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.  ALL RIGHT. SO THIS GIVES YOU A BREAKDOWN OF ALL THE PUBLIC PROJECTS IN THE DEPARTMENT. SO MAYOR'S OFFICE OF HOUSING WE HAD 277000 HOURS 43% BOSTON RESIDENT 58% PEOPLE OF COLOR 4% WOMEN. WE HAD PARTS OF 19,000 WORK HOURS 13% BOSTON RESIDENT 23% PEOPLE OF COLOR 5% WOMEN PUBLIC FACILITIES 465000 HOURS 20% BOSTON TRANSIT 31%. PEOPLE OF COLOR 7% WOMEN. THEN WE HAD THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT WITH 27000 HOURS ALMOST 28,000 WITH 27% BOSTON RESIDENT 36% PEOPLE OF COLOR AND 4% WOMEN. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.  ALL RIGHT. SO I THIS IS MY FAVORITE SET OF DATA HERE. SO THIS DATA GOES BACK FROM 1989 UP UNTIL 2023.  SO ABOUT 25 YEARS OR SO OF DATA. WELL, 35 WELL I THINK 35 RIGHT. 35 YEARS OF DATA HERE. THE PROGRAM STARTED IN 93. I WAS ABLE TO WE WERE ABLE TO PUT TOGETHER NUMBERS FROM 1989 AND SO THE FIRST YEAR WE HAD FIRST YEAR OF THE PROGRAM 1300000 HOURS AND THE NUMBERS CAME IN AT 30% 36%. BOSTON RESIDENT 26% PEOPLE OF COLOR AND 3% FEMALE. AND SO YOU CAN SEE ALL THE DIFFERENT YEARS WHEN THE PROGRAM YOU KNOW IN THE START BEGINNING OF THE PROGRAM WE WERE UP 36% THE BOSTON THE NUMBERS THE PROCEDURES WERE YOU KNOW IN THE FORTIES HIGH THIRTIES.  AND IF YOU JUST TAKE A LOOK AT THE WOMEN PERCENTAGES WE WERE DOWN YOU KNOW 3% FOR PERCENT 5% IN THE EARLY YEARS.  NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO YOU HAVE CONTINUATION OF THE NUMBERS THROUGHOUT THE YEARS. SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT 2000 UP UNTIL 2011 THE WORK HOURS INCREASED. SO THE PROGRAM STARTED OFF WITH LIKE 1.5 MILLION HOURS AND WE ENDED UP, YOU KNOW, GETTING MORE PROJECTS AND SO WE WENT UP, YOU KNOW, 3000000 HOURS FOR BUILDING 1000000 HOURS. ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT ON THIS ON THIS PAGE IS IF YOU LOOK AT 2011, THAT'S WHEN WE CAN RECALL THAT WHEN WE HAD THE ECONOMIC DOWNTURN AND SO AS REFLECTED IN THE HOURS THAT THE OVERALL THE OVERALL HOURS FOR 2011 WE WERE DOWN TO LIKE 1.5 MILLION HOURS. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.  OKAY. SO NOW YOU'RE LOOKING AT SOME CALENDAR YEAR 2012 TO 2023 AND AS YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBER THE ECONOMY TURNED AROUND, THE NUMBERS GOT THE WORK HOURS WENT UP AND SO THE MOST WORK HOURS THAT WE'VE SEEN ACCORDING TO THE DATA THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS IN 2019 WE HAD ALMOST 8.5 MILLION WORK HOURS AND THAT SEEMS TO BE THE MOST ACCORDING TO THE DATA THAT WE HAVE ON HAND.  AND ALSO ANOTHER ITEM I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT IS THE FACT THAT THE WOMEN PERCENTAGES HAVE GONE UP AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S KIND OF IMPRESSIVE GIVEN THAT THE OVERALL WORK GUYS HOURS OF WORK WENT UP AS WELL AND THE WOMEN OVERALL WOMEN PERCENTAGES HAVE GONE UP NOT AT 12%. STILL A WAYS TO GO BUT WE HAVE SEEN, YOU KNOW, THOSE WOMEN PERCENTAGES HAVE BEEN INCREASING OVER TIME.  BUT NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. ALL RIGHT. SO WE GOT A NICE CHART HERE FOR YOU. SO IT JUST IT SHOWS, YOU KNOW, THE THE WORK HOURS THAT WE HAVE. IT GIVES YOU THE OVERALL WORK HOURS.  AND AS YOU CAN SEE, DOWNTURN AGAIN IN 2011 HOW THE HOURS DIPPED IN 2920 13 AND THEN THEY YOU KNOW, THEY WENT UP DRAMATICALLY IN 2015 AND YOU KNOW 2019 SO FORTH AND SO ON.  RIGHT. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.  SO THIS IS JUST SO WE ARE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, BREAK DATA DOWN IN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT WAYS.  SO WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT NOW IS FIVE YEAR WHAT WE CALL THE FIVE YEAR PEOPLE OF COLOR DATA. SO THIS IS ONLY FOR THE WORK HOURS PERFORMED BY PEOPLE OF COLOR AND IT'S FOR THE CALENDAR YEARS OF 2019 2020. ALL THE WAY UP IN 2023. AND SO IN TERMS OF PEOPLE OF COLOR, ACCORDING TO THE DATA THAT WE HAVE, 55% OF THE PEOPLE OF COLOR WORK HOURS ARE BEING PERFORMED BY HISPANICS 14. AND THEN AFRICAN-AMERICANS 37%. AND THEN YOU HAVE THE OTHER RACES AND ETHNICITIES THAT FOLLOWS.  NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.  SO I THINK THAT WOULD CONCLUDE FOR NOW MY PORTION OF MY TESTIMONY. THANKS SO MUCH, CHRIS AND THANK YOU COUNSELORS. I'M GOING TO BRIEFLY GO THROUGH SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED REGARDING SANCTIONS. FIRST, JUST AN OVERVIEW OF THE ORDINANCE, WHAT IT WHAT IT SAYS ABOUT SANCTIONS ESSENTIALLY.  THE BACK THE BATHROOM EMPLOYMENT COMMISSION HAS THE ABILITY TO ISSUE SANCTIONS ON DEVELOPERS, GENERAL CONTRACTORS, CONSTRUCTION MANAGERS AND SUBCONTRACTORS FOUND TO BE IN NONCOMPLIANCE PENALTIES AND FINES AS WE SAID UP TO $300 PER DAY. AND ANOTHER PIECES THAT WE CAN CREATE A RECORD OF NONCOMPLIANCE THAT CAN BE CONSIDERED WHEN AWARDING FUTURE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTS. NEXT SLIDE.  SO THERE ARE THREE WAYS A CONTRACTOR OR PROJECT CAN MEET THE BOSS AND RESIDENT JOBS POLICY REQUIREMENTS. ONE IS FIRST AND FOREMOST MEETING THE WORKFORCE STANDARDS AND AS YOU SAW FROM THE DATA IT'S IT'S PRETTY RARE TO SEE A PROJECT MEET THE FULL 51% GUIDELINES WE SEE CLOSER TO THE PEOPLE OF COLOR 40% OR WOMEN PERCENTAGES.  BUT MEETING IF FOLKS MEET THOSE STANDARDS THEN THEY'VE MET THEIR IN COMPLIANCE. THE OTHER IS MEETING THE ADMINISTRATIVE FACTORS THAT WE'VE OUTLINED A FEW TIMES. AND THEN FINALLY IF A CONTRACTOR CAN GET IN DEMONSTRATE HIGH IN IMPRACTICALITY OF OUR JP STANDARDS IN ADVANCE OF THE START OF THE PROJECT THEY CAN AGREE TO SPONSOR A SPECIFIC NUMBER OF NEW APPRENTICESHIPS AS PART OF THAT PROJECT. HOWEVER, THE PENALTIES AND FINES ARE BASED ON THE ADMINISTRATIVE FACTORS BECAUSE OF THE PROBABLE CONSTITUTIONAL CHALLENGES THAT ARISE ON THE BASIS OF EQUAL PROTECTION. SO WE CANNOT BECAUSE WE CANNOT BIND OR ISSUE VIOLATIONS BASED ON CONTRACTORS OR PROJECTS MEETING THE ACTUAL HIRING GOALS. WE FOCUS ON THOSE ADMINISTRATIVE STANDARDS. NEXT SLIDE.  SO AGAIN, WE'VE GONE THROUGH THESE BUT WE CAN WE HAVE A COMPLIANCE DETERMINATION WITH THOSE SEVEN SANCTIONABLE VIOLATIONS. A CONTRACTOR WHO FAILS TO ATTEND A PRE-CONSTRUCTION MEETING FAILS TO PROVIDE COMMUNICATE SESSIONS IS REQUESTED FAILS TO PROVIDE REFERRALS TO THE BOSS AND RESIDENT JOBS POLICY FOR THE ORDINANCE FAILS TO PROVIDE WEEKLY DOCUMENTATION OF BOSTON RESIDENCY FAILURE TO ATTEND A CORRECTIVE ACTION MEETING OR FAILURE TO APPEAR BEFORE THE BOSTON EMPLOYMENT COMMISSION AND FOR THE LAST YEAR WE'VE REALLY FOCUSED IN ON LATE PAYROLL AS YOU KNOW. OUR SUBMISSION OF PAYROLL IS A REALLY CRITICAL WAY FOR US TO MONITOR THE COMPLIANCE WITH THE POLICY.  IT'S HOW WE GET ALL THE DATA THAT IS INPUT INTO OUR SYSTEM.  SO WE'VE REALLY LOOKED CLOSELY AT LATE PAYROLL IS ONE OF THE REAL MEASURES FOR SANCTIONS. NEXT SLIDE.  AND UNTIL FEBRUARY OF 2023 THE BAC HAD NEVER ACTUALLY ISSUED SANCTIONS.  NOW I WANT TO SAY THAT THE BAC HAD NEGOTIATED HAD HAD FINDINGS OF NONCOMPLIANCE AND IN FACT NEGOTIATED WITH CONTRACTORS FOR PAYMENTS TO APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS AND OTHER PROGRAMS TO OFFSET THEIR NONCOMPLIANCE.  BUT THE FIRST SANCTIONS WERE ISSUED IN FEBRUARY OF 2023.  MY PREDECESSOR, FORMER BJP DIRECTOR ANDRé LIMA WORKED WITH THE BACK ON A SANCTIONS POLICY WHICH WAS PUT IN PLACE IN NOVEMBER 2022 AND USING THAT THE STAFF AND DIRECTOR ANDRé LIMA AT THE TIME PUT TOGETHER A RECOMMENDATIONS FOR SANCTIONS FOR THREE PROJECTS WHICH WERE SUBCONTRACTORS HAD A PATTERN OF LATE PAYROLLS SUBMISSIONS AND YOU CAN SEE THOSE THERE AT THE TIME THE BAC VOTED TO SANCTION JUST THE 9 MILLION STRAIGHT PROJECT KAPLAN CONSTRUCTION AND WE DO MAKE THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR SUBCONTRACTORS AND THE SANCTIONS WERE BASED ON THE WORK OF JUST TWO OF THEIR SUBMISSION TRACTORS WHICH WERE DEICHMANN AND RIDGELINE AND A LOT OF THE REASON THE FOCUS WAS PUT ON THOSE TWO SUBCONTRACTORS WAS BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT MEETING BJP HIRING GOALS BUT ALSO HAD A PATTERN OF LATE PAYROLL AND BOTH APPEALED THEIR FINES.  THE BANK VOTED TO LOWER THE FINES FROM ONE BUT NOT THE OTHER AND KAPLAN PAID THEIR $17,000 FINE IN JULY. NEXT SLIDE.  SO WE WANTED TO MOVE ON FROM HERE. WE HAVE WITH US A RESEARCHER FROM THE BOSTON PLANNING DEVELOPMENT AGENCY BECAUSE THE BOSTON EMPLOYMENT COMMISSION HAS ASKED ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS WHAT'S THE IMPACT OF OUR NONCOMPLIANCE OF OF THESE CONTRACTORS AND PROJECTS NOT MEETING THE HIRING GOALS THAT THE BUREAU HAS SET. SO HOWEVER, I BELIEVE MICHAEL HAS NOT BEEN PROMOTED TO A PANELIST.  MICHAEL I'M HERE. I'M HERE HERE.  THANK YOU. SO I'M GOING TO HAND IT OVER TO MICHAEL WHO RUN THROUGH THESE SLIDES AND THEN I HAVE SOME BRIEF INFORMATION ON JOBS BANK AND THE BOSTON EMPLOYMENT COMMISSION. BEFORE WE OPEN UP FOR QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS FROM COUNCILORS. SO THANKS SO MUCH AND I'M INTERVIEWING MICHAEL.  THANK YOU SO MUCH, JODY. GOOD MORNING EVERYONE AND THANKS FOR HAVING ME . MY NAME IS MICHAEL ANDELA. I'M A SENIOR DATA SCIENTIST HERE AT THE BPA RESEARCH DIVISION. SO AS JODY SAID, WE WERE ASKED TO LOOK AT THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF COMPLIANCE DIRECTLY TO OUR RESIDENTS IN TERMS OF A NUMBER OF HOURS WORKED AND THEN POTENTIALLY INCOME AT THE SAME TIME DUE TO THAT INCREASED ECONOMIC ACTIVITY DUE TO THEIR INCREASE IN INCOME. HOW THE OVERALL IMPACT TO THE CITY'S ECONOMY. SO MY COLLEAGUES MATT REDIKER AND KEVIN KANG CONDUCTED THE ANALYSIS, WROTE THE MEMO BUT UNFORTUNATELY THEY COULDN'T BE HERE AND I'M STEPPING HERE TO EXPLAIN THEIR WORK.  SO AS I SAID WE WERE ASKED TWO QUESTIONS SO WE SAW NONCOMPLIANCE AND PRETTY MUCH ALL THE TRADES. THEN WHAT WOULD BE THE DIRECT IMPACT BY THE EXTRA HOURS AND WAYS THAT COULD HAVE BEEN EARNED TO OUR RESIDENTS INSTEAD OF LETTING IT SPILL OVER TO OTHER REGIONS? AND THEN THE INDIRECT IMPACT THAT AS I SAID, THE ADDITIONAL IMPACT HAVING THOSE WAGE SPREAD TO OUR RESIDENTS AND THAT INCREASED ACTIVITY WITHIN THE CITY. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.  SO THE FIRST QUESTION IS ARE WE COMPLIANT? THEN THE SIMPLE ANSWER IS NO. ONLY 21% OF TRACKED HOURS HOURS WERE BY BOSTON RESIDENTS IN CALENDAR YEAR 2023 AND THEN AMONG THE TRADES WITH MORE THAN 8000 HOURS WHERE NO TRADE MET 51% BOSTON RESIDENT REQUIREMENT AND ONLY 9.6% MET THE 12% WOMAN REQUIREMENT AND 32.7 MET 40% ARE PEOPLE OF COLOR REQUIREMENT. SO IN THE NEXT SLIDE I'LL SHOW YOU THE HOURS WORKED BY TRADE AND AS YOU CAN SEE PRETTY MUCH NO COMPLIANCE IN ALL THE TRADES AND THEN I MEAN 1.1 INTERESTING POINT IS ALSO LIKE THE LOWEST PERCENTAGE OF WORKS WORKED BY OUR RESIDENTS IN THE THIRD COLUMN. AS YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THEM ARE ON A HIGH PAYING JOBS LIKE ELEVATOR CONSTRUCTION FOR EXAMPLE. ONLY 11% BUT HIGH PAYING JOB. SO OVERALL 8.2 MILLION TOTAL HOURS WORKED IN 20 21% ON AVERAGE. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.  AND THEN WE ASKED AND WHAT IF THERE THE POLICY HAD BEEN COMPLIED WITH? SO WE BUMPED ALL THE TRADES TO 51% FOR BOSTON RESIDENTS AND 12% AND 40% FOR WOMEN PEOPLE OF COLOR.  AND THE THIRD COLUMN WILL SHOW YOU THAT THE ADDITIONAL HOURS BOSTON RESIDENTS COULD HAVE WORKED AND TOTAL INCOME IN INITIAL TRADE. SO IN THE NEXT SLIDE I HAVE SUMMARY HERE. SO 2.5 MILLION CONSTRUCTION HOURS WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO BOSTON RESIDENTS AND THAT WOULD TRANSLATE INTO PROFIT $103.4 MILLION OF WHICH FOR OUR RESIDENTS. SO THIS IS A DIRECT IMPACT. GOING TO THE NEXT SLIDE. NOW WE ASKED OURSELVES CAN WE CALCULATE THE INDIRECT IMPACT RIGHT. SO IN ORDER TO DO THAT WE USED OUR FAMOUS MODEL AMY ORIGINAL ECONOMIC MODELING POLICY INSIGHT METHODOLOGY WHICH CALCULATES THE IMPACT OF ANY SHOCK INTO THE ECONOMY AND THEN ITS POTENTIAL OUTCOME WITHIN A SPECIFIC GEOGRAPHY END AND THE NEARBY GEOGRAPHY AS WELL MEANING IN BOSTON AND SUFFOLK COUNTY AND IN IN THE STATE AS WELL. SO ON THE NEXT SLIDE THEN THE QUESTION WILL BE DO WE HAVE ENOUGH WORKERS AVAILABLE TO TAKE ON THAT? YOU KNOW, 2.5 MILLION AVAILABLE HOURS? RIGHT. SO THE FIRST KIND OF UPPER BOUND SCENARIO IS LIKE YES, WE HAVE IF WE SAID WE HAVE WORKERS AVAILABLE TO DO THAT WHICH IS THEN EITHER FROM UNDEREMPLOYED OR UNEMPLOYED BECAUSE IN ORDER TO BE DELIVERED IN THE LABOR FORCE YOU HAVE TO BE EITHER WILLING AVAILABLE AND READY TO WORK RIGHT. SO AND WHICH MEANS THEN WE'RE NOT SACRIFICING ANY WAGES. THERE'S NO SUBSTITUTION.  WE JUST YOU KNOW, LETTING PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING LESS TO BUMP INTO THOSE ADDITIONAL HOURS AND KIND OF THE LOWER BOUND SCENARIO IS ONLY TWO ADDITIONAL HOURS WOULD BE WORKED BY BOSTON RESIDENTS WORKING AT MASSACHUSETTS MINIMUM WAGE. SO SEEING THE YOU KNOW, OPPORTUNITY TO WORK IN HIGH PAYING WAGE THEY WOULD TRANSITION BUT WE HAVE TO TAKE UP THE 15 HOUR DAY WITH THE $15 AND PER HOUR THEY WOULD SACRIFICE IN ORDER TO MOVE TO THOSE POSITIONS. AND THE THIRD SCENARIO WE LOOKED AT IS THE ONE IN BETWEEN. NOW WE KNOW THE UPPER BOUND AND THE LOWER BOUND SO IN BETWEEN. SO IN ORDER TO MAKE KIND OF THESE PREFERRED WE CALL THE PREFERRED ESTIMATE WE USED THE EASIEST 25 YEAR X 2070 AND THIS THIS SHOULD BE CHANGED 2018 TO 2022 X AND THEN ACCORDING TO THAT THEN 20% OF CONSTRUCTION WORKERS IN BOSTON WORKED LESS THAN 40 HOURS AND ROUGHLY ABOUT 13% WORKED SUBSTANTIALLY LESS THAN 40 HOURS. SO WE ASSIGNED WE SO WE ASSUMED 15% OF WORKERS COULD COME FROM THOSE GROUPS AND THEN THE EXTRA 50 THE ADDITIONAL 15% COULD COME FROM UNEMPLOYED WORKERS AND THEN THE REMAINING 70% HOURS COULD BE FILLED BY LOW WAGE WORKERS. SO WE RUN THE BEST SIMULATION IN REMY AND ON THE NEXT SLIDE YOU WILL SEE THE RESULTS.  SO THE UPPER BALANCE SCENARIO SHOWS US ABOUT $83.2 MILLION WILL BE ADDED TO THE CITIES. THE ROSS CITY PRODUCT WHICH IS THE VALUE OF ALL FINAL GOODS AND SERVICES PRODUCED IN THE CITY AND WOULD RESULT IN ADDITIONAL 607 INDUCED AND INDIRECT JOBS BECAUSE OF THIS INCREASED ECONOMIC ACTIVITY AND THERE WILL BE ADDITIONAL $167.4 MILLION TO OUR RESIDENTS. SO THIS IS THE UPPER BOUND SCENARIO AND THE LOWER BOUND. SO THIS IS ASSUMING ALL WORKERS COULD COME FROM THOSE WHO ARE WORKING MINIMUM WAGE MOSTLY IN SERVICE SECTORS AT $15 AN HOUR. SO WE HAVE TO TAKE THAT INCOME OUT. SO WE WILL BE SEEING 50 CLOSE TO $60 MILLION ADDED TO OUR GCD AND 436 INDIRECT AND INDUCED JOBS WILL BE ADDED TO THE CITY AND $120 MILLION OF INCREASED INCOME TO OUR RESIDENTS IN OUR PREFERRED SCENARIO WHICH I SUMMARIZED IN A NEXT SLIDE.  YES. SO THESE SCENARIO AS I SAID 50% COMING FROM CONSTRUCTION WORKERS THESE ARE UNDEREMPLOYED OR SUBSTANTIALLY WORKING LESS AND IN CONSTRUCTION AND 50% COMING FROM UNEMPLOYED AND 70% COMING FROM MINIMUM WAGE WORKERS. SO THIS WILL GIVE US 487 INDIRECT AND INDUCED JOBS PRIMARILY COMING FROM LOCAL CONSUMPTION DEMAND INCREASE BECAUSE OF THIS EXTRA WAGE INCREASE BECAUSE YOU KNOW, EVERY WORKER WOULD GO TO THEIR RESTAURANT OR YOU KNOW, BUY A COFFEE . YOU KNOW, YOU CREATE A GENERATING THESE MULTIPLIER IMPACT IN THE ECONOMY. SO WE'LL HAVE THAT THAT MUCH JOBS CREATED ADDITIONAL JOBS AND 134 MILLION WAGE INCREASE FOR BOSTON RESIDENTS AND $66.9 MILLION INCREASE TO OUR GROSS CITY PRODUCT. SO AS A CONCLUSION ON NEXT SLIDE.  SO SO BECAUSE OF THE BUILDING TRADES IN BOSTON ARE HIGHLY PAID AND THERE IS A LARGE GAP AS WE SAW IN OBSERVED HOURS DATA AND I END UP AT TARGET. SO THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF FULLY MEETING THESE TARGETS IS LARGE AND INDIRECT.  THE DIRECT IMPACT OF THESE YOU KNOW, GAINING OPPORTUNITY TO WORK IN CONSTRUCTION SECTOR BE LARGE AND AND AS I SAID WILL WILL SEE OVER 480 JOBS INDIRECT AND INDUCED IN BOSTON ADDITIONAL $60 MILLION WAGE UP TO BOSTON RESIDENTS.  THANK YOU THANK THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH MIKE ON TO THE BPA. IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO HAVE THE CONTEXT FOR WHY WE ARE DOING THIS WORK AND THE POTENTIAL FOR FOR REAL IMPACT IF WE GET IT RIGHT GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.  I JUST WANT TO SAY A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE JOBS BANK AS WELL. NEXT SLIDE.  THIS WAS THE BATTERIES IN JOBS POLICY.  JOBS BANK IS RIGHT IN THE ORDINANCE. IT REQUIRES THAT WE SET UP A JOBS BANK THROUGH WHICH CITY RESIDENTS CAN BE REFERRED PEOPLE OF COLOR AND WOMEN AND THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS FOR BOTH OUR CONTRACTORS AND I'M SORRY OUR CONSTRUCTION MONITORS AS WELL AS CONTRACTORS. GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.  SO OUR CONSTRUCTION MONITORS UTILIZE THE JOBS BANK TO REFER BOSTON RESIDENTS AND PEOPLE OF COLOR WHERE APPROPRIATE. BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY CONTRACTORS. ALL BOSTON RESIDENTS, PEOPLE OF COLOR AND WOMEN APPLYING DIRECTLY TO THOSE CONTRACTORS OR SUBCONTRACTORS WHO ARE NOT EMPLOYED ARE SUPPOSED TO BE REFERRED TO THE JOBS BANK AND WE SHOULD RECEIVE A WRITTEN RECORD OF THAT AND THE CONTRACTORS ALSO HAVE TO MAINTAIN A CURT FILE THE NAME, ADDRESS AND PHONE NUMBER OF EACH BOSTON RESIDENT PERSON OF COLOR AND WOMAN WHO SAW EMPLOYMENT OR WHO WAS REFERRED TO THE BJP AND NOT FIRED.  SO WE ARE WORKING REALLY HARD TO TRY TO IMPROVE COMPLIANCE ON THIS FRONT AND IF YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE THIS IS HOW IT WORKS CANDIDATES ARE RECRUITED FROM PARTNER STAKEHOLDERS.  WE HAVE A QR CODE THAT ALLOWS CANDIDATES TO REGISTER RIGHT ON THEIR SMARTPHONE. A SMART LINK WAS ALSO DEVELOPED TO TAKE CANDIDATES TO THE BJP WEBSITE WITH OPTIONS TO REGISTER AND YOU'VE BEEN PROVIDED ALL THOSE LINKS ONCE THEY'RE REGISTERED OUR JOB BANK COORDINATOR DOES GET IN CONTACT THEM THEM WITHIN 48 HOURS AND OR THEY'RE ASKED TO SUBMIT A RESUMé AND INFORMATION ON THEIR CREDENTIALS AND ALL OF THOSE CANDIDATES RECEIVE NOT JUST INFORMATION ON JOB OPPORTUNITIES BUT TRAINING, EDUCATION AND APPRENTICESHIP OPPORTUNITIES AND MORE AND NEXT SLIDE CONTRACTORS THAT REACH OUT TO THE JOBS BANK ARE FORWARDED A LABOR REQUEST FORM WHICH IS COMPLETED. IT'S A IT'S A GOOGLE DOC SO WE CAN TRACK THAT WHERE THEN APPROPRIATE RESUMES ARE FORWARDED TO THE CONTRACTOR AND FOLLOW UP EMAILS ARE MADE IN LINE.  SO THIS IS A BIG PART OF IT IS OBVIOUSLY WE NEED TO BOTH ENSURE THAT WE HAVE FOLKS ON THE JOBS BANK AS WELL AS ENSURE THAT OUR CONTRACTORS ARE REACHING OUT TO US. SO TO DO THAT THE JOBS BANK HOLDS HIRING EVENTS AND JOB FAIRS. OUR MOST RECENT JOB FAIR THAT COORDINATOR JEANNE MCLAREN PUT JANINE MCLAREN PUT ON HAD 80 ATTENDEES WITH 26 VENDORS INCLUDING SIX UNION APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS AND SIX TRAINING PROGRAMS. JOB BANK HAS TABLED IT 13 EVENTS SINCE SEPTEMBER.  THEY MONTHLY ROUNDTABLE MEETINGS WITH COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS AND YOU CAN SEE THE LIST OF PARTNERSHIPS HERE ON THE SLIDE AND IN ONE OF OUR NEWER INITIATIVES WE ARE GOING TO BE HOLDING TWO OSHA TEN CLASSES FOR A LOT OF WORKERS. HAVING THE OSHA TEN CERTIFICATION ESPECIALLY FOR PUBLIC PROJECTS IS ONE OF THE BARRIERS. SO WE'RE USING THAT TO PROVIDE IMPORTANT SAFETY TRAINING WHILE AT THE SAME TIME REDUCING A BARRIER TO EMPLOYMENT AND ALSO RECRUITING PEOPLE TO THE JOBS BANK. SO WE ARE PLANNING RIGHT NOW FOR TWO OSHA TEN CLASSES THAT THE JOBS BANK WILL BE DOING THIS SPRING. NEXT SLIDE.  AND HERE'S AS I WAS SAYING,  WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO WORK ON IMPROVING COMPLIANCE HERE SO OUR JOB BANK AUDITOR IS NOW ATTENDING PRE-CONSTRUCTION MEETINGS WHEREVER APPROPRIATE.  WE ARE TARGETING OUTREACH TO BE OUR JP COVERED CONTRACTORS AND SUB SUBCONTRACTORS. WE'VE GOT A LIST OF ALL OF THOSE CONTRACTORS WHO ARE PART OR BEING MONITORED BY THE PROGRAM INCLUDING THEIR DTI AND HIRING MANAGERS AND SIMILAR TO EFFORTS THAT WE'VE BEEN PUTTING TOGETHER TO DOCUMENT AND PROVIDE INFORMATION TO THE BOSTON EMPLOYMENT COMMISSION ON LATE PAYROLL.  WE ARE TRYING TO WORK WORK ON A PROCESS AND A DASHBOARD TO HAVE BETTER INFORMATION ABOUT USE OF THE BRG JOBS BREAK AND OF COURSE CONTINUING TO EXPAND OUTREACH STRATEGIES.  NEXT SLIDE.  AND FINALLY JUST A FEW QUICK UPDATES ON THE BOSTON EMPLOYMENT COMMISSION.  NEXT SLIDE. I AM HAPPY TO REPORT THAT IS A THIS CITY COUNCIL HEARING WE ARE NOW AT A FULL WE ARE ALL MEMBERS APPOINTED AND THE LIST OF OUR BOSTON EMPLOYMENT COMMISSION MEMBERS ARE HERE. AND NEXT SLIDE.  NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.  AND THE MEETINGS ARE THE THIRD WEDNESDAY OF EVERY MONTH EXCEPT IN JUNE WHERE THAT IS CONFLICTING WITH JUNETEENTH. WE ARE MOVING IT TO JUNE 26. YOU CAN FIND ALL THE AGENDAS MINUTES, HANDOUTS, EVERYTHING ON THE BOSTON PLANNING COMMISSION WEBSITE AND I JUST COMPILED HERE A LIST OVER THE LAST TEN SIX MONTHS OF THE PROJECTS AND SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS THAT THE BOSTON PLANNING COMMISSION HAS REVIEWED. SO JUST TO GIVE A SENSE OF THE BACKGROUND SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS ARE THE WHERE WHEN A PROJECT IS SET TO BEGIN AND WE ARE NOT YET AT 25% 50% OR 75% COMPLETION AND IT'S MEANT TO GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LAY OUT THE INITIAL OUTREACH STRATEGIES FOR THE PROJECT AND GIVE THE BOSTON PLANNING COMMISSION OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN AND PROJECT REVIEWS ARE WHERE WE ACTUALLY ARE REVIEWING A PROJECT CONSTRUCTION BUSINESS PREPARE A REPORT DETAILING THE PROGRESS OF MEETING HIRING GOALS AND IF THEY'RE MEETING ALL OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE COMPONENTS OF THE LAW AS WELL. SO THOSE ARE THOSE ARE THE PROJECTS THAT WE REVIEWED. WE ALSO ARE WORKING VERY HARD TO TRY TO REALLY IMPROVE THE WAY THAT WE MOVE TOWARDS RECOMMENDING SANCTIONS AND WHAT ARE THE FIRST PIECES OF THAT IS UPGRADES TO OUR SALESFORCE DATABASE WHICH WE'RE WORKING ON OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS AS WELL AND ALSO PLANNING FOR A NEW PROGRAM IN FY 25 AND THIS WAS THE IDEA OF CONSTRUCTION MONITORS WHO THE CONSTRUCTION MONITORS ARE ON THE GROUND. THEY'RE ON SITE. THEY KNOW WORKS AND DOESN'T WORK AND WE'RE GOING TO BE CREATING A SERIES OF WEBINARS WHERE CONSTRUCTION MONITORS WILL TALK THROUGH BEST PRACTICES ON HOW TO WHAT THEY'VE SEEN IS WORKING WELL TO MEET THE GOALS OF THE BOSTON PRESENT JOBS POLICY AND ALLOW FOLKS TO ASK QUESTIONS AND ENGAGE WITH OUR CONSTRUCTION MONITORS. I WILL I THINK NEXT SLIDE I'LL END IT HERE. THAT WAS A LOT OF INFORMATION. WE'RE READY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS AND AS CHIEF QUINN SAID, WE HAVE SO MUCH MORE INFORMATION WE COULD PROVIDE SO WE BUT WE'RE READY TO ANSWER ANY AND ALL QUESTIONS. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PATIENCE AS WE MADE IT THROUGH THAT PRESENTATION. THANK YOU FOR THE I THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AND JODY'S I AM GOING TO HAND IT OVER TO MY COLLEAGUES TO ASK QUESTIONS IN ORDER OF APPEARANCE.  I HAD A QUICK QUESTION BEFORE SOME OF THE DATA KNOW SO IN TERMS OF THE RESIDENTS BEING HIRED YOU KNOW THAT NUMBER WAS OR 21% WHICH IS JUST WAY BELOW THE NUMBER. MY QUESTION FOR YOU IS DO YOU AND LOOKING AT THE DATA YOU KNOW IT LOOKS LIKE WE WE HAD MORE HOURS WORKED YOU KNOW IN 2018 2019 THAN A HIGHER PERCENTAGE.  SO MY MY I FEEL LIKE THERE'S ENOUGH CAPACITY TO HAVE A HIGHER NUMBER OF BOSTON RESIDENTS BEING HIRED. BUT WHAT IS YOUR SENSE FROM THE DATA, YOU KNOW, REALLY MARY, MISSING THAT TARGET BY SO MUCH BECAUSE THEIR PEOPLE ARE LOOKING OUTSIDE ARE HIRING OUTSIDE THE CITY OR IS PART OF IT OR YOU KNOW HOW MUCH OF THAT IS DRIVEN BY WE DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT INFRASTRUCTURE HERE AND TRAINING FOR FOR BOSTON OR IS IT SO HOW DO WE LOOK AT THE NUMBERS FOR THAT?  YEAH, I THINK THE ANSWER IS A LITTLE BOTH. BUT CHRIS TO YOU CHRIS HAS MANAGER CHRIS BROWN HAS 30 YEARS OF THE PROGRAM AND I THINK HAS THE BEST PERSPECTIVE TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.  WELL, ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, JODY. SO EXCELLENT QUESTION. SO I THINK THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS GOING ON.  I THINK IN SOME CASES, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE WITH THE NEW SALESFORCE DATABASE IS WE'RE ABLE TO TRACK TRENDS. RIGHT. AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK IS GOING ON IS THAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE MOVING OUT WE KNOW NOT ONLY IN THIS PROFESSION BUT ALL PROFESSORS,  RIGHT. FOR WHATEVER REASON MOVING OUT CHEAPER HOUSING OR WHATEVER. BUT I ALSO THINK THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE A PERSON THAT YOU KNOW, LIVED WITH THEIR MOM.  THEY GET A GOOD JOB IN THE TRADES AND THEY END UP BUYING A HOUSE OUTSIDE OF BOSTON. RIGHT. AND THAT'S A THAT'S POSITIVE, RIGHT IN TERMS OF FOR THAT PERSON TO BE ABLE TO BUILD WEALTH, YOU KNOW, BECOME A HOMEOWNER. BUT IN TERMS OF THE NUMBERS THAT WE HAVE HERE RIGHT IS IT HAS A NEGATIVE IMPACT. SO I THINK SOME OF THAT MIGHT BE HAPPENING. ALSO I THINK TRAINING IS PART OF IT. I THINK WE YOU KNOW, THE OUTREACH TO TRAINING PART YOU KNOW, THE REACHING OUT TO INDIVIDUALS WHO MIGHT NOT BE INTERESTED IN GOING TO COLLEGE AND LETTING THEM KNOW THAT HEY, LISTEN, THIS IS A WAY THAT YOU CAN EARN A GOOD LIVING AS WELL. AND I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE BIG EMPHASIS THAT WE'RE HAVING NOW AND I THINK ESPECIALLY WITH THE BJP OFFICE MOVING INTO THE WORK EMPOWERMENT CABINET, THERE'S A LOT OF OUTREACH EFFORTS AND THERE'S A LOT OF STAFFERS AND YOU KNOW, ALSO TRAINING AND JUST BASICALLY AN OUTREACH JUST LETTING THE PERSON KNOW WHO DOESN'T KNOW ABOUT CONSTRUCTION. RIGHT. AND ESPECIALLY FOR A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOODS. YOU KNOW, THEY MIGHT KNOW ABOUT CARPENTERS LABORERS BUT THEY DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ELEVATOR CONSTRUCTOR OR ABOUT TRAVEL. SO THE OUTREACH IS IMPORTANT. BUT YEAH, SO YOU'RE CORRECT THE NUMBERS HAVE THE PERCENTAGES HAVE WENT DOWN WITH BOSTON RESIDENTS BUT I MUST SAY THE PEOPLE OF COLOR PERCENTAGES HAVE THEY'VE GONE UP OVER THE YEARS, YOU KNOW AND THEY'RE WE'RE RUNNING IN THE HIGH THIRTIES SO WE'VE SEEN INCREASES IN OTHER CATEGORIES AND ALSO THE WOMEN AS I POINTED OUT EARLIER, WE'VE SEEN A INCREASE IN THAT AREA. BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, WE HAVE SEEN A DECREASE IN IN IN THE BOSTON AREA AS A PERCENTAGE AND AGAIN I THINK THERE'S A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT FACTORS INVOLVED AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, WITH THE NEW DATABASE THAT WE HAVE TO SHOW FOR US I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE IMPORTANT FOR MAKING POLICY TRACKING TRENDS.  ARE PEOPLE REALLY MOVING OUT BUYING HOUSES, YOU KNOW, OR IS THERE AVAILABILITY OF WORKERS?  IS THERE A LACK OF WORKERS? DO WE NEED TO GET PEOPLE TRAINED? SO I THINK THE SOFTWARE IS IMPORTANT IN TERMS OF , YOU KNOW, TRACKING THE TRENDS.  THANKS A LOT, TRENT. I SEE YOU'RE YOU'RE BACK IN HAND.  YEAH. SO THANKS SO MUCH. THIS IS SO IMPORTANT TO US. JUST QUICKLY, I AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUE CHRIS BUT I WE LOOKED AT THAT AS WELL. SO A COUPLE OF THINGS. ONE IS THAT WE THINK COVID HAD A LOT TO DO WITH IT BECAUSE A LOT OF WHEN WHEN IT WAS SHUT DOWN AFTER I THINK 2019 FOR FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME THERE WERE A LOT OF TRANSITIONS IN CAREER MOBILITY IN DIFFERENT INDUSTRIES, NOT JUST CONSTRUCTION. SO ONE OF THE COULD BE THAT FOLKS COULD MOVE OUT OF THE CITY AT THAT TIME BUT DIDN'T RETURN.  BUT THE OTHER PIECE I THINK THAT SPEAKS DIRECTLY TO THE TRADES AND TO THE TRAINING IS THAT ONE IS THAT WE'VE HAD NUMEROUS CONVERSATIONS AND CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR COLLEAGUES FROM LABOR SPECIFICALLY FROM THE TRADES THAT WE NEED AN INCREASE OF OF APPRENTICESHIP SLOTS FOR EACH OF THE TRADES. SO I THINK WE'VE BEEN IN VARIOUS CONVERSATIONS THAT IT JUST CAN'T BE A SMALLER NUMBER AND THAT THEY WOULD NEED TO HAVE HAVE TO DEMONSTRATE TO US AND SHOW HOW WE CAN INCREASE THAT BECAUSE IT CAN'T JUST BE THE ARGUMENT OF OH THE THE ECONOMY IS SLOWING DOWN OR DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN SLOWING DOWN.  WE HAVEN'T HAD A LOT OF PERMITS BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK OVER THE THE 20 YEAR IF YOU EVEN EVEN IF YOU LOOK AT THE 20 YEAR SPAN OR THE TEN YEAR SPAN THAT ARGUMENT HAS ALWAYS BEEN IN PLAY AND SO YOU KNOW, AT LEAST I HAVE BEEN IN CONVERSATIONS WITH THE TRADES TO SAY WE NEED TO INCREASE THAT SLOT. THE OTHER PIECE THAT WE HAVE BEEN TALKING TO THEM ABOUT IS I KNOW THAT WE HAVE THIS BUILDING PATHWAYS WHICH IS A REGISTERED APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM HAVE BEEN AROUND HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR ABOUT 10 TO 12 YEARS THAT THE NUMBERS ARE TOO SMALL AND SCALE FOR US. WE NEED TO MOVE DIRECTLY TOWARDS WE KNOW BOSTON RESIDENTS ARE ELIGIBLE, THEY'RE READY TO GO STRAIGHT TO THE TRADES AND DON'T NEED A PRE APPRENTICESHIP. SO WE ARE WE'VE HAD A CONVERSATION IN THE LAST 6 TO 9 MONTHS TO A YEAR TO SAY WE NEED DIRECT PIPELINES.  WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE READY TO BE ELECTRICIANS. THEY DON'T NEED TO BE IN A PRE APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM. THEY NEED TO GO FORWARD AND EVERY TIME WHEN YOU PUT A MARKER TO HAVE WORKER OR POTENTIAL LOWER WAGE WORKERS ADD ANOTHER SIX WEEKS OR EIGHT WEEKS OR SIX MONTHS TO PRE TRAINING THAT TAKES AWAY FROM THEIR WAGES AND WE KNOW THAT THEY HAVE 2 TO 3 JOBS AND UNLESS IT'S A PAID TRAINING THAT THEY CAN GO TO AND PUT FOOD ON THE TABLE, THEY'RE GOING TO GO AFTER THOSE TWO OR THREE JOBS AND NOT THE TRAINING THAT DOESN'T PAY WHILE THEY'RE IN TRAINING. SO WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THE FEDS, THE CITY AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT TO SAY THAT THE TRAINING DOLLARS THAT WE'RE GETTING HAS TO BE FLEXIBLE ENOUGH TO PROVIDE STIPENDS AND LEARN AND EARN MODELS FOR PARTICIPANTS WHO WILL LEAVE THEIR LOW WAGE JOBS TO COME HERE AND TRAIN SO THEY CAN GET A BETTER FUTURE. SO WE'RE HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND WE KNOW IT'S HARD, IT'S BEEN SLOW AND TRYING TO MOVE PEOPLE'S THINKING AND PRACTICE BUT WE RECOGNIZE THAT WE HAVE TO MOVE TOWARDS SOME HARD CONVERSATIONS AND HARD PRACTICES.  OKAY. THANK YOU.  AND NOW JUST HAND IT OVER TO MY COLLEAGUES. SO IN ORDER OF ARRIVAL STARTING WITH MADAM PRESIDENT LOUIJEUNE INTERIM YOU CAN LOWER YOUR HAND IF YOU HAVE THAT POWER.  THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I CHAIRED A WEBER AND THANK YOU TO THE ADMINISTRATION FOR BEING HERE. WE HELD HEARINGS ON MYSELF SPONSORING HEARINGS ON THE BJP FOR THE LAST FOR MY DURING MY FIRST TERM AND COUNCILOR WEBER GLAD TO SEE YOU PICKING THIS UP AND GLAD TO CONTINUE TO CO-SPONSOR THIS.  I THINK THERE'S A WEALTH OF INFORMATION THAT I WANTED TO ADDRESS IN CHIEF WHEN I WANT TO THANK YOU BECAUSE I KNOW THAT YOU STATED IT YOU HAD 20 MINUTES ONLY AT THE BEGINNING AND YOU'RE STILL HERE DEDICATING YOUR TIME TO THIS VERY IMPORTANT DISCUSSION.  AND YOU ALSO MENTIONED THAT THIS IS JUST A CHECK IN AND THAT THE WORK IS NOT JUST IN THESE HEARINGS. SO I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU BECAUSE YOU MAKE THAT SO EVIDENT YOU PRESENTED DURING THE LAST BJP HEARING THAT WE HAD LAST TERM IN OCTOBER THE ECONOMIC IMPACT ANALYSIS AND IT WAS INCREDIBLE. I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST AN IMPORTANT WAY TO SHOW WHAT WE AS A CITY OF BOSTON ARE MISSING OUT ON IN TERMS OF WAGES,  PARTICULARLY WHEN IT COMES TO OUR BOSTON RESIDENTS.  I DO WANT TO YOU KNOW, CHRIS BROWN, I THINK YOU HIGHLIGHTED THAT THE PROGRESS THAT WE'VE BEEN MAKING ON THE PEOPLE OF COLOR NUMBER IS ALTHOUGH IN THE SPIRIT OF OF OF OF THOSE WHO CAME BEFORE CHUCK TURNER AND ADVOCATING MAKING SURE THAT OUR RESIDENTS ESPECIALLY OUR ROXBURY RESIDENTS HAD ACCESS TO THESE JOBS ARE BLACK AND BROWN RESIDENTS NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE DISAGGREGATE THE DATA THE NUMBERS AROUND THE COLOR OF PEOPLE DATA IS STILL WHERE WE WANT IT TO BE. IN THIS MEETING THE ORIGINAL INTENT OF THE BOSTON RESIDENTIAL POLICY BUT I AND I HEAR EVERY METRIC WIND SAID WHEN I LOOK AT THE ECONOMIC IMPACT ANALYSIS I SEE WOW HOUSING IS REALLY EXPENSIVE AND PEOPLE ARE MOVING OUT OF THE CITY. I'M WONDERING WHAT ARE THE ADDITIONAL DOTS THAT YOU ALL HAVE AROUND INCREASING THOSE BOSTON IT BOUGHT THOSE BOSTON THOSE BOSTON RESIDENT PERCENTAGES THAT SEEM TO BE GOING DOWN. I'M THINKING ABOUT THE REDEVELOPMENT I WAS OVER AT MADISON PARK LAST WEEK THE REDEVELOPMENT OF MADISON PARK AND HOW WE ARE FIGURING THAT INTO IN THE CITY'S COMMITMENT AND EVERYONE'S COMMITMENT TO THAT REDEVELOPMENT HOW THAT'S FIGURING INTO WHAT LIKE THE IDEA OF BRINGING UP YOU KNOW IF WE ARE REALLY INVESTING IN A NEW MADISON PARK IN A RICH AND ROBUST VOTE TACK WE GET THOSE BOSTON PERCENTAGES UP RIGHT?  WE GET THOSE PEOPLE OF COLOR NUMBERS UP AND MAYBE WE GET THOSE WOMAN PERCENTAGE NUMBERS UP. SO I JUST WANTED TO HEAR YOUR OWN THOUGHTS ON WHAT WE'RE DOING TO ADDRESS AND ATTACK THE BOSTON RESIDENTS QUESTION AND ALSO HOW WE'RE FIGURING MADISON PARK INTO THE EQUATION THAT CAN START AND THEN TREND AND CHRIS, PLEASE JUMP IN. I THINK ONE PIECE THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT IS WE REALLY RECOGNIZE THAT THE GREEN NEW DEAL FOR BOSTON IS GOING TO PLAY A BIG ROLE IN THIS AND IN PARTICULAR THERE ARE LOTS OF OPPORTUNITIES THAT THE PROJECTS OUTLINE IN THE MONEY BEING INVESTED ARE ALL CONNECTED TO CONSTRUCTION AND THAT'S GOING TO EXPAND THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR HOPEFULLY BOSTON RESIDENTS THAT IS TRANSIT AT A LARGER SCALE THAN 30 OR 40 A YEAR AND WE'RE REALLY BEING VERY THOUGHTFUL ABOUT HOW WE LOOK AT THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT THAT GREEN NEW DEAL PROJECTS BRING TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE USING THE BOSTON RESIDENT JOBS POLICY AND EVERY TOOL IN OUR TOOL BELT TO ENSURE THAT BOSTON RESIDENTS AND ESPECIALLY MADISON PARK GRADUATES ARE FIRST IN LINE FOR THOSE JOBS.  IT'S REALLY A BIG PART OF OUR IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT WORK AND I DON'T KNOW CHIEF AND CHRIS, ANYTHING YOU'D WANT TO ADD TO THAT FOR CHRIS, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY? IF NOT, I'LL QUICKLY CHIME IN.  I THINK THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION . ONE OF THE THINGS I DO WANT TO SAY AND EVERY TIME WHEN WE WORK IN THIS WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT SPACE IS THAT THERE'S NO EASY QUICK FAST BOOT CAMP TO A CAREER PATHWAY. SO WE NEED TO TRAIN NOW AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE DOING IS WE HAVE A TASK FORCE WITH THE MAYOR IN MADISON PARK, FRIENDS OF MADISON PARK STAKEHOLDERS TO ENGAGE IN HOW WE ENVISION THE REDEVELOPMENT OF MADISON PARK BOTH IN TERMS OF THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT FOR MADISON PARK AND ALSO PROGRAMMATIC.  SEE WE WERE LOOKING AT GROWTH PROJECTIONS. WE'RE LOOKING AT JOBS AND GROWTH INDUSTRIES AND WE'RE USING AS TOOLS TO DRIVE PROGRAMING.  I MEAN I THINK THAT THAT'S THAT'S WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW. SHOULD WE HAVE DONE IT TEN, 15 YEARS AGO, 20 YEARS AGO? SURE.  BUT IT'S YOU KNOW, IT'S WE'RE DOING WE HAVE TO WE HAVE TO START NOW ESPECIALLY WITH THE GREEN NEW DEAL. WE DON'T WANT TO YOU KNOW,  MISSED THE TRAIN ON THAT FOR OUR YOUNG PEOPLE AND CAREER PATHWAYS IN CONSTRUCTION. I ALSO WANT TO CAVEAT BY SAYING THAT WE HAVE BEEN IN CONVERSATIONS WITH THE BOSTON HOUSING AUTHORITY SUFFOLK CONSTRUCTION MAJOR I AM MAJOR DEVELOPERS TO START REALLY INCLUDING HARD CORE METRICS INTO THEIR PROCUREMENT BIDDING DOCUMENTS WITHIN THE RIGHTFUL LEGAL FRAMEWORK AND I CAUTION THAT THAT'S THE ARTICULATION OF THAT LEGAL FRAMEWORK BECAUSE WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL. THE OTHER PIECE IS THAT LIKE LIMITED EXPORT MODEL RIGHT IN THE DIRECT I MEAN LIKE THIS IS NOT REALLY WITHIN THE OF RESEARCH. I MEAN I MEAN LIKE A LOT OF THIS IS NOT STEM CELL RESEARCH. THIS IS ABOUT WORKING WITH VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS AND SHOW THAT OTHER MODELS AROUND THE STATE HAVE DONE SIMILAR WORK WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE SHIFTED OUR THINKING THAT WE'RE NO LONGER ABOUT JUST OUTPUTS SINCE THIS HAS MOVED INTO THE IN OUR OUR WORKER EMPOWERMENT CABINET WE'RE NOT JUST INTERESTED IN DOCUMENTING HOURS IN NUMBERS AS OUTPUTS. WE WANT TO MAKE A CASE TO SAY THERE'S AN ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY LOSS IF WE DON'T DO IT THE RIGHT WAY AND IF WE AND AND IF WE DON'T START DOING THAT AND GET IT. YOU'VE SEEN MICHAEL'S ECONOMIC MAKE IMPACT REPORT AND YOU'VE SEEN THE ONE THAT THAT'S LAST YEAR. SO WE'RE GOING TO KEEP BANGING THAT AS A AS A DOMINANT NARRATIVE NARRATIVE TO SAY THAT LOOK WHAT HAPPENS IF THERE IF WE DON'T GO THIS ROUTE THERE'S AN ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY LOST FOR BOSTON RESIDENTS. THEREFORE THEY CANNOT GET HOUSING, GET ACCESS TO QUALITY EDUCATION AND SAFETY NETS SO THEY CAN LIVE IN BOSTON.  SO WE'RE KIND OF SHIFTING THAT PUBLIC NARRATIVE TO MAKE IT A BUSINESS CASE AND AN ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY LOSS IF WE MISSED THE TRAIN AGAIN I THINK SORRY , MATT. MADAM PRESIDENT, I NEGLECTED TO MENTION THAT THERE WOULD PUT A FIVE MINUTE LIMIT ON ON QUESTIONS BUT I FAILED TO MENTION THAT AT THE BEGINNING. WE HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.  MAYBE ONE MORE AND THEN WE'LL MOVE ON. THANK YOU. I DO HAVE I HAVE A FEW BUT I'LL JUST ASK THIS ONE. THE TRADE YOU MENTIONED THE APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM. YOU MENTIONED THE PRE APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM PROGRAM BUILDING PATHWAYS. I WAS AT THE GRADUATION A FEW WEEKS AGO I THINK IT'S INCREDIBLE. BUT I ALSO TAKE WHAT YOU SAID TO HEART RATE ARE THESE APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS. A LOT OF THEM IN JANUARY AND WE TRY TO SHARE IT AS MUCH AS WE CAN WITH COMMUNITY. I'M CURIOUS TO KNOW HOW WHEN HOW DO YOU ALL GET THAT INFORMATION ABOUT APPRENTICESHIPS? OUT TO COMMUNITY TO OUR BOSTON RESIDENTS, TO OUR WOMEN, TO OUR PEOPLE OF COLOR.  LIKE ARE YOU WORKING IS THERE A PLAN B?  JP AND NOW THE OFFICE OF WORKER EMPOWERMENT TO BE INTENTIONAL UNDERSTANDING BJP UNDERSTAND AND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT THE APPRENTICESHIP ABOUT LETTING PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THESE APPRENTICESHIP DATES AND THE APPLICATIONS AND TIMES IT REQUIRES PEOPLE. YOU CAN'T JUST DO IT VERY QUICKLY AND SO ARE WE BEING INTENTIONAL AND TARGETED? YOU KNOW, I KNOW MY LITTLE WORLD OF CITY COUNCILOR AT LARGE I TRY MY BEST BUT WHAT IS THIS CITY ACTUALLY DOING WITH OUR TRADES AND OUR UNIONS WHO YOU KNOW, TALK TO THEM AND THEY HAVE A DESIRE TO TO DIVERSIFY AND THEY'RE WORKING IT. ALL OF THEM ARE WORKING AT DIFFERENT SPEEDS IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS FOR THE LABORERS AND THE ELECTRICIANS RATE NUMBERS, YOU KNOW COMPARED TO THE OTHER TO SOME OTHER TRADES, WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO HELP SHARE THE WORD ABOUT THESE APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE WITH THE POPULATIONS THAT WE WERE TRYING TO TARGET WITH JP?  I'LL SAY IT I'LL JUMP IN AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE QUESTION BECAUSE IT'S SUPER IMPORTANT AND I'M REALLY PROUD OVER THE LAST YEAR THE WORK OF OUR JOBS BANK TO CONNECT MORE WITH THE APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS AND THE FACT THAT OUR JOBS FAIR FOR THE BOSTON RESIDENT DRUG POLICY HAD EIGHT OF THOSE PROGRAMS AT THE JOBS FAIR. WE ARE CONSISTENTLY KEEPING TRACK OF THE APPLICATION DEADLINES, THE TIMELINES AND SENDING THAT OUT THROUGH THE BOSTON RESIDENT JOBS POLICY JOBS BANK AND ALL THE FOLKS ON THE JOBS BANK BECAUSE WE WANT FOLKS INTO THOSE PATHWAYS. RIGHT? WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BUILDING PATHWAYS TO THE BUILDING TRADES AND APPRENTICESHIPS. WE ALSO SHOW THAT OUT THROUGH WORKER EMPOWERMENT NEWSLETTERS AND OTHER KINDS OF INFORMATION THROUGH OUR CABINET LEVEL COMMUNICATIONS. BUT WE'RE VERY SPECIFIC FOR THOSE WHO'VE REACHED OUT TO THE JOBS BANK OR PART OF THE JOBS BANK AND PARTNERS OF THE JOBS BANK TO COLLECT THAT INFORMATION AND GET IT OUT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.  YEAH, WE ALSO HAVE 100 GRANTEE PARTNERS IN BOSTON IN WHICH WE GET THAT INFORMATION ACROSS THROUGH OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS. WE ALSO DO IT THROUGH OUR TUITION OR SIX TUITION FREE COMMUNITY COLLEGE PROGRAM IN ADDITION TO THAT 100 PARTNERSHIP. AND SINCE WE ARE A FISCAL AGENT AND OPERATORS OF TWO OF THE LARGEST MASS HIRES CAREER CENTERS IN THE STATE WHICH SERVES APPROXIMATELY 8000 TO 15000 RESIDENTS THROUGH VARIOUS TOUCH POINTS, WE GET THAT OUT THROUGH THE CAREER CENTERS NOW. NOW THESE OUTREACH MECHANISMS ARE IN THE THOUSANDS.  SO IF THERE'S ONLY 12 SLOTS, WHAT DO YOU THINK?  I MEAN LIKE YOU KNOW LIKE IT NEEDS TO BE A LITTLE MORE ROBUST FROM YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT ENTITIES TO MARKET IN A WAY THAT IS SCALABLE PROVIDES BENEFITS NOT TEN YEARS AGO, NOT 12 YEARS AGO BUT PROVIDE ACCURATE BENEFITS FOR WORKERS NOW BECAUSE IT'S IT'S TIMES HAVE CHANGE AFTER COVID AND YOU KNOW WHILE THE ECONOMY IS DOING WELL AND INFLATION SOMEWHAT WELL IT TICKED UP LAST QUARTER YOU KNOW WENT DOWN FROM YOU KNOW, TWO YEARS AGO. IT'S STILL A LOT FOR A FAMILY OF FOUR DOING LOWER WAGE ARE WORKING TWO OR THREE JOBS SO THEY'RE NOT GOING TO LEAVE THAT ONE JOB FOR A TRAINING PROGRAM OF 12 MONTHS OR SIX MONTHS WHEN I DON'T KNOW IF I'M GOING TO GET INTO THAT TRADES AND IT DOESN'T PAY WHILE I'M TRAINING SO THAT'S THAT'S A DIFFICULT CHOICE AND THE SLOTS ARE SMALL THEY'RE LIKE 12 PER TRAINING CYCLE SO IF IT'S IN THE THOUSANDS AND YOU'RE WORKING A LOT MAYBE IT'S VERY DISCOURAGING IF THE SLOTS IF YOUR CHANCES OF GETTING IN IS SMALL SO WE'RE WORKING WITH BUILDING PATHWAYS AND IN THE TRADES TO KIND OF MODERNIZE THE WAY THEY OUTREACH TO AN AVERAGE WORKER IN BOSTON BECAUSE TIMES HAVE CHANGED.  OKAY. YEAH. SORRY . SORRY . MADAM PRESIDENT, I HAVE TO CUT YOU OFF THERE. THANK YOU. WE HAVE CALLER I BELIEVE OH, IT'S FINE. I BELIEVE I SAW PRISCILLA'S HANDOUT BUT I THINK IN MY ED IF YOU GO ON THIS PANEL OR ANOTHER PANEL ABOUT THE YEAH SO WE WILL BE JOINED BY A PANEL OF ADVOCATES PRISCILLA YOU'RE PART OF THAT PANEL. ONCE WE'RE DONE WITH THIS PANEL THE AND SO I'M JUST GOING TO MOVE ON WE HAVE BEEN JOINED BY COUNSELOR SHARON DURKIN AND THE COUNSELOR FOR IS ANDERSON.  NEXT UP IS GOING TO BE COUNSELOR PéPIN. COUNSELOR MCGILL, YOU'RE ON DECK. SO 5 MINUTES. COUNSELOR PEPPER THANK YOU. CHAIR THANK YOU FOR HOSTING THIS AND THANK IT TO THE PANELISTS FOR JOINING US TODAY. IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU, CHIEF NGUYEN THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU AND YOUR TEAM DOES ON A DAILY BASIS.  AND ALSO THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION TODAY. IT WAS GOOD TO LEARN OF ALL THE THINGS YOU GUYS ARE DOING. MY FIRST QUESTION IS REGARDING VOCATIONAL TRAINING AND JUST WORKFORCE TRAINING FOR YOUTH. I'M A BIG FAN OF THE MADISON PARK VOCATIONAL TECH HIGH SCHOOL BUT I ALSO AM A FIRM BELIEVER THAT WE SHOULD EXPANDING THOSE THOSE PROGRAMS ELSEWHERE AS WELL IF IT'S EITHER MORE THE DIFFERENT HIGH SCHOOLS AND BEEPS OR JUST RBC WIRE UP CENTERS OR JUST ANYWHERE THAT YOUTH ORGANIZED.  HAVE YOU ALL BEEN THINKING ABOUT UNIQUE WAYS OF EXPANDING THOSE PROGRAMS?  JUST BECAUSE I REMEMBER BEING IN HIGH SCHOOL I WENT TO THE O'BRIENS RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO MADISON BUT WE DIDN'T GET ANY VOCATIONAL TRAINING BUT A LOT OF MY FRIENDS WANTED TO BE MECHANICS. THEY WANT SOME OF MY FRIENDS WANTED TO OPEN UP A BEAUTY SHOP BUT DIDN'T HAVE THAT OPTION.  WHAT CAN YOU SHARE THAT THE CITY IS DOING AT THE MOMENT?  I'LL JUST QUICKLY ADD AND MY COLLEAGUES CAN JUMP IN. WE'RE WORKING WITH WELL FIRST WE WANT TO START OUT WITH MADISON PARK.  THERE ARE OTHER CHAPTER 74 PROGRAMS MAYBE NOT REGISTERED IN WITHIN A VARIETY OF BOSTON PUBLIC HIGH SCHOOLS. SO WE ARE WORKING WITH WITH HIGH SCHOOLS BUT WE ARE FOCUSING ON MADISON PARK. SO WE'RE DOING MORE AND DUAL ENROLLMENT ARTICULATION AGREEMENTS WITH COMMUNITY COLLEGES TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE GETTING CREDITS FOR WHAT THEY'RE STUDYING IN HIGH SCHOOLS THAT TRANSFERS TO EITHER AN ASSOCIATE DEGREE OR A BACHELOR'S DEGREE. WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH THE TRADES TO INTEGRATE THEIR FIRST YEAR APPRENTICESHIP CURRICULUM INTO THE ACTUAL HIGH SCHOOL SO THEY'RE NOT REPEATING THE SAME TRAINING, SAME HIGH SCHOOL CURRICULUM. SO HOW DO YOU MAKE IT EFFICIENT FOR YOUNG PEOPLE AND ENGAGE THEM IN A WAY THAT'S MORE HANDS ON BUT NOT LOSE THE ACADEMIC INTEGRITY OF WHAT BOSTON PUBLIC SCHOOLS NEED FOR THAT HIGH SCHOOL TO GRADUATE?  INTERNSHIPS LEARN AND EARN MODELS THAT ARE NOT SPECIFICALLY WITH THE TRADES WHICH COULD TAKE 4 TO 5 YEARS FOR YOUNG PEOPLE.  AND I KNOW THAT EVERYBODY'S CONVERSATIONS AROUND FOUR YEAR DEGREES DO WE NEED IT? DO WE DON'T YOU KNOW DOES IT TAKE THAT LONG? IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE.  WE WANT ALL ALTERNATIVES AND ALL VOCATION, ALL PATHWAYS TO GOOD CAREERS OF PAYING JOBS FOR YOUNG PEOPLE.  BUT MAKE NO MISTAKE YOUNG PEOPLE ARE THEY'RE VERY YOUNG. AND SO WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS DEAR YOUNG PEOPLE INTO POST-SECONDARY EDUCATION BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THE DATA SUGGESTS THAT ANYONE WITH A POST-SECONDARY EDUCATION OR COLLEGE EDUCATION WILL GET HIGHER PAYING JOBS. SO WE DON'T WE WANT TO INCLUDE THAT AS AN OPTIONS AS AN OPTION FOR YOUNG PEOPLE.  WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE VOCATIONAL PATHWAYS ARE JUST NOT BOOT CAMPS 12 WEEKS, TWO WEEKS THAT IT IS THAT IS LICENSED INDUSTRY AND CERTIFICATIONS THAT ALLOW THEM TO TAKE THAT DEGREE OR CERTIFICATION AND BUILD ON THEIR CAREER PATHWAYS AS THEY'RE MOVING BECAUSE THEY'RE STILL VERY YOUNG. SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE TOOLS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON. COULD WE DO A BETTER JOB?  PROBABLY. ARE THERE MORE FOR YOUNG ADULTS AND THOSE WHO ARE JUST HIGH SCHOOL? ABSOLUTELY.  WE'RE FOCUSING ON 18 TO 24. WE'RE FOCUSING ON COMBINING ESOL AND ADULT BASIC EDUCATION WITH THE TRADES SO THAT THEY CAN BUILD SOME CREDENTIALS WHILE LEARNING ENGLISH. SO ALL OF THAT IS BEING COMBINED.  IS IT FASTER OR IS IT AT AT A FASTER PACE THAN WE LIKE IT? PROBABLY NOT IS A FRUSTRATING FOR THE BUREAUCRACY TO WORK WITH THE STATE TO TRANSFER CREDITS AND TO DO ARTICULATION AGREEMENTS. YES, IT'S IT'S VERY FRUSTRATING. ARE WE THEY'RE PROBABLY NOT BUT WE DO HAVE WE SHARE YOUR VISION OF ACCESSIBILITY AND EQUITY FOR ALL AGES FOR BOSTON RESIDENTS AND THERE'S A COMPLIANCE SIDE TO THAT TOO.  AND WE KNOW THAT YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY FRUSTRATING TO ISSUE $300 SANCTIONS BASED ON LATE PAYROLL.  BUT THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY AND A HISTORY OF THE BOSTON EMPLOYMENT COMMISSION LOOKING AT THOSE WHO'VE BEEN OUT OF COMPLIANCE AT THE END OF THE PROJECT AND SAYING YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU NEED TO BE INVESTING IN THE PIPELINE AND WORKING WITH THEM AROUND COMPLIANCE THAT IS A NEGOTIATED INVESTMENT INTO THE PIPELINE PROGRAMS TO PROVIDE THE MUCH NEEDED RESOURCES TO EXPAND AND ENSURE THAT WE HAVE WHAT WE NEED TO GET AS MANY YOUNG PEOPLE IN AS POSSIBLE. YEAH, I MEAN I JUST CONCUR WHAT JODY AND CHRIS TALKED ABOUT IN TERMS OF SANCTIONS. WE DON'T WANT TO IT DOESN'T BENEFIT US TO TO SLAP SOMEONE ON THE RISK AND HAVE THEM PAY LIKE TEN GRAND. SO WE ACTUALLY WORK WITH DEVELOPERS AND TALK TO THEM AND SAY HEY, WE KNOW THAT YOU'RE OUT OF COMPLIANCE. WE NEED YOU TO START INVESTING IN OTHER PIPELINES THAT ARE THE BIT THAT WILL BENEFIT THE RESIDENT OF BOSTON IN THIS INDUSTRY. SO WE WORK WITH THEM ON A TAILORED APPROACH AND EMPLOYERS TO GET THEM ENGAGED TO SAY HERE ARE OTHER WAYS IN WHICH WE YOU CAN ENGAGE AND INVOLVE AND NOT NECESSARILY JUST COMPLIANCE.  I KNOW COMPLIANCE AND SANCTIONS ARE REALLY IMPORTANT. DON'T GET ME WRONG THAT'S A PRIORITY OF OURS BUT ALSO WORKING WITH EMPLOYERS TO MAKE SURE WE GET THE MAXIMUM IMPACT FOR OUR BOSTON RESIDENTS REMAINS THE UTMOST PRIORITY FOR THIS ADMINISTRATION AND FOR OUR CABINET. OKAY. THANK THANK YOU COUNCILOR . BUT THEN COUNCILOR HERE EUROPE COUNCILOR WORRELL, YOU ARE ON DECK.  5 MINUTES FOR MEJIA. THANK YOU. JOE WEBER AND I KNOW YOU ARE READY FOR THOSE. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M GOING TO ASK YOU ALL ABOUT, RIGHT? WAS MY DASHBOARD OUT? I KNOW IT'S PENDING. WHAT'S GOING ON BUT WHO'S THE ONE GOT THE YELLOW? WHAT'S GIVE ME THE PROCESS. WHAT'S THE TIMELINE? WHERE ARE WE GOING TO GET THIS DASHBOARD? THIS LIKE LET'S SAY LIKE WE PRESENT WE HAVE GOT SORT OF THE BOSTON RESIDENT JOBS POLICY DATA THAT WE'VE AND WE'RE WORKING ALSO ON BUILDING OUT A DASHBOARD ON COMPLIANCE RELATED TO BJP AND I KNOW WE HAVE OUR FOLKS WITHIN THE CABINET WORKING ON THAT SORT OF BROADER . HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE EMPLOYED IN WHAT INDUSTRY?  AND THAT WORK IS CONTINUING WITH OUR OUR DIRECTOR OF RESEARCH AND EVALUATION. BUT WE CAN GIVE YOU BE OUR JP DATA IN DASHBOARD ON OUR WEBSITE ANY TIME THAT YOU KNOW I APPRECIATE THAT AND I KNOW THAT I GUESS LIKE FOR ME IT'S REALLY GETTING INTO THE WEEDS OF THAT DATA LIKE FOR SOME FOR EXAMPLE YOU KNOW I ALWAYS WANT TO KNOW IF THERE'S A WAY IF SOMEONE DOESN'T GET A JOB.  I ALWAYS ASK THIS AT EVERY HEARING THAT I WOULD DO ALL AND I STILL FEEL A BIT UNSURE UNCLEAR ABOUT THE FEEDBACK BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW AND SO WHAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO HELP IS SOME SORT OF MECHANISM OF SOME SORT OF INFLUENCE STRUCTURE IN WHICH WE ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE PEOPLE WITH REAL TIME FEEDBACK OR WHERE PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO SORT THROUGH THE DATA. AND I THINK JULIE, YOU KNOW, I REALLY DO APPRECIATE ALL OF THE EFFORTS AND I HAVE DRIVEN BY WORK SITES THAT ARE ARE THE SAME USUAL SUSPECTS WHO ARE STILL OF VICTIMS.  AND SO WE HAVE AN AMAZING OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY START THINKING A LITTLE BIT MORE AGGRESSIVELY IN TERMS OF DATA COLLECTION AND WHEN WE KNOW WHEN WE KNOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO HOLD PEOPLE ESPECIALLY THE USUAL SUSPECTS ACCOUNTABLE TO SHOWING UP IN WAYS THAT WOULD SUPPORT THIS PARTICULAR POINT.  AND SO IT'S AGAIN, TALK TO ME ABOUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S APPROPRIATE IN TERMS OF PROCEDURAL BECAUSE FOR TIMES SAKE WE'D LOVE TO JUST GIVE YOU AN UPDATE AT A SEPARATE MEETING ON WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IN TERMS OF COLLECTING THOSE DATA IN BETA TESTING THE DASHBOARDS WE'VE BEEN WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH THE BPA ECONOMISTS AND RESEARCH DEPARTMENTS.  WE'VE BEEN AGGREGATING DATA AROUND A LARGER DASHBOARD ON WHAT JOBS ARE AVAILABLE IN BOSTON AND WHAT THE GROWTH INDUSTRIES LOOK LIKE. WE HAVE THAT IT'S NOT PUBLIC YET AND WE'VE DEVELOPED TOOLS.  IN FACT WE'RE DOING A SOFT LAUNCH IN ON MAY THE 15TH THAT BELIEVE OR MAY THE 20TH ON TOOLS THAT ARE DEVELOPED FOR THIS DASHBOARD. SO WE'RE HAPPY TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE BITS AND PIECES THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING TO PRODUCE THIS DASHBOARD. YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURPRISED BUT EVERYTHING IN BUREAUCRACIES AND CITY GOVERNMENT TAKES A VERY LONG TIME.  WE KNOW THAT THIS IS A PRIORITY. IT HAS ALREADY BEEN SET AT HEARINGS SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT. HOWEVER, IT'S JUST BEEN VERY SLOW GOING THROUGH THE CHECKPOINTS AND GETTING THAT INFORMATION PUBLIC SO WE WE ARE WORKING ON A DASHBOARD. WE HAVE TOOLS. WE WE'VE DONE THAT.  WE'VE HAD A MEMO, INTERNAL MEMOS. WE'VE BEEN MEETING WITH LABOR ECONOMISTS. WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DRILL DOWN A LOT OF WHAT COULD BE PUBLIC AND WHAT DOESN'T OVERWHELM THE READER OF THE DASHBOARD AND WHAT MAKES SENSE FOR END USERS. SO WE ENGAGE IN IT DEPARTMENTS LABOR ECONOMISTS, DATA METRICS ,WHAT'S REQUIRED, WHAT'S NOT WHAT'S USEFUL. SO WE HAVE ALL OF THAT. WE JUST DON'T HAVE AN END PRODUCT TO LAUNCH YET. WE HAVE TOOLS THAT WE'LL BE LAUNCHING IN MID-MAY SO HAPPY TO UPDATE YOU ON IT. I JUST DIDN'T WANT YOU TO THINK THAT THAT WE DO NOT THINK THAT WE WERE SLACKING OFF. WE ARE RIGHT ON IT BUT IT'S NOT AS EASY AS I LIKE IT TO BE. I HEAR THAT AND I KNOW THAT MY TIME IS GOING TO BE UP SOON BUT I JUST WANT TO AGAIN JUST REAFFIRM MY DESIRE FOR EVERY SINGLE HEARING THAT I'VE PARTICIPATED IN SINCE I STEPPED FOOT INTO THIS SPACE AND THIS IS MY FOURTH ENTERING MY FIRST YEAR. I'VE ALWAYS ASKED FOR THIS AND IT JUST FEELS LIKE REALLY IT'S ALL AND I JUST WANT TO SEE IF IT'S GOING TO BE GREAT TOOLS I GUESS THAT THE OTHER QUESTION THAT I HAVE BEFORE I GET YOU IS I'M CURIOUS ABOUT YOUR COLLABORATION WITH OTHER NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS.  ONE THING IS THE TRADE BUT HAVING WORKED IN THE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT SPACE PARTICULARLY WITH OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE TRANSITIONING OUT OF DTA AND OTHER SOCIAL SERVICES LIKE FOR ME I COME FROM A VERY DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE ON WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WORK AND SO I'M CURIOUS ABOUT YOUR COLLABORATE WITH NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS AND OTHER GROUPS TO GET SOME MORE PEOPLE OF COLOR AND WOMEN INTO THESE JOBS AND YOUR AND YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH NOT JUST MESSIAHS AND THE USUAL SUSPECTS. I'M TALKING ABOUT THE DOMINICAN WOMEN'S DEVELOPMENT CORP. I'M TALKING ABOUT THESE SMALLER MOM AND POP ORGANIZATIONS WHO ARE DEEPLY ROOTED IN COMMUNITY NOT UP HERE WITH ALL OF THOSE FOLKS WHO HAVE ACCESS TO INFORMATION LIKE WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE, HOW YOU ALL ARE GROWING UP WITH SMALLER NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS TO BUILD THIS WORKFORCE. I CAN THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNSELOR. WE'VE BEEN REALLY FOCUSING ON THAT WITH THE LABOR COMPLIANCE OFFICE AND I'M DEEP PARTNERSHIPS WITH MANY WORKER CENTERS THAT WE'VE BEEN REALLY TRYING TO ENGAGE WITH AROUND WORKER AND WORKER KNOW YOUR RIGHTS IN FULL BUT THAT ALLOWS US ALSO TO ENGAGE OUR WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT AND THESE WORKER CENTERS ARE DEALING WITH FOLKS NOT ONLY WHO HAVE MANY DIFFERENT ISSUES WITH THEIR EXISTING JOBS BUT SOME OF THEM HAVE LOST THEIR JOBS OR ARE LOOKING FOR NEW PATHWAYS AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO REALLY WE'VE CREATED A LIST OF WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS THAT OUR OFFICE SUPPORTS THAT ARE AND WITH DETAIL INFORMATION ON WHETHER OR NOT THEY ARE OPEN.  SO ALL IS PROVIDED IF IT'S FOCUSED ON IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES.  AND SO WE'VE BEEN REALLY TRYING TO BRING THE CONNECTIONS WE HAVE WITH THOSE WORKER CENTERS AROUND THE WORKERS RIGHTS INFORMATION TO BRIDGE INTO WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT AS WELL. AND WE'RE STARTING TO SEE THERE WE'RE BRINGING INFORMATION AND TABLING AT ALL OF THESE WORK BOARDS.  ALL OF THESE KNOW YOUR RIGHTS BARRIERS AND REALLY CONNECTING WITH FOLKS AND DO PARTNERSHIPS. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. YES, THANK YOU. CAN YOU ANSWER MEJIA? SO YEAH OVER FIVE MINUTE COUNCILMAN YOU HAVE 5 MINUTES BUT I'M SORRY . SORRY , SORRY , SORRY . NO, SORRY LYNN. HERE YOU GO. NO PROBLEM. THAT'S IT.  THAT LAST QUESTION WAS 5 MINUTES BUT I LET IT GO. WE HAVE ANOTHER PANEL. I'M JUST TRYING TO MOVE THINGS ALONG.  COUNCILOR WORRELL, YOU WERE UP . COUNCILOR FLYNN IS NEXT IN ORDER. I DON'T SEE HIM ON. SO COUNCILOR FITZGERALD, YOU SHOULD BE READY TO GO AFTER COUNCILOR WORRELL UNLESS COUNCILOR FLYNN RETURNS COUNCILOR AROUND 5 MINUTES IS COUNCILOR WORRELL HERE?  NO. OKAY, SO AND I DON'T SEE COUNCILOR FLYNN. COUNCILOR FITZGERALD, YOU'VE MOVED UP IN THE BATTING ORDER AND THEN COUNCILOR DURKAN,  YOU'RE ON DECK. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, CHAIR RIGHT, MAN RIGHT SPOT HERE WE GO, FOLKS. GREAT TO SEE YOU ALL TREND ALWAYS A PLEASURE. AND JODIE AND MICHAEL AND CHRISTOPHER.  NICE. NICE TO SEE YOU GUYS AND MEET YOU ALL. THANK YOU FOR COMING.  WE'LL GET RIGHT INTO QUESTIONS SO MY FIRST ONE HERE IS THE IT'S KIND OF ALL OVER THE PLACE THE CITY FUNDED PROJECT. SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT DOING THE COMPLIANCE AROUND THE CITY FUNDED PROJECTS IN THAT AFFECTING YOU KNOW WE LOOK AT THE CONTRACTORS WHO GET ON THE CITY PROJECTS AND WE CAN PENALIZE THEM IF THEY HAVE A PREVIOUS RECORD OF POOR QUALITY IN MEETING THESE THESE REQUIREMENTS. DOES THAT FACTOR IN THEIR PREVIOUS PRIVATE WORK THAT THEY DO WHEN THEY APPLY FOR A PUBLIC JOB OR IS IT ONLY PREVIOUS PUBLIC JOBS THAT THEY'VE DONE THAT FACTORED IN PUBLIC AND PRIVATE? SO WE CAN CREATE A RECORD FOR EVERY CONTRACTOR BASED ON THEIR BIOGRAPHIES HISTORY AND IN FACT I'M SO GLAD YOU ASKED THAT QUESTION BECAUSE WE ARE WORKING ON MAKING MORE AVAILABLE TO OUR PROCUREMENT TEAM INFORMATION NOT ONLY ON CONTRACTORS OUR HISTORY BUT ALSO THEY'VE HAD PREVIOUS WAGE THEFT VIOLATIONS AND OTHER ISSUES. SO WHERE WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH DO IT TO TRY TO CREATE AN INTERNAL FIRST BUT THEN EXTERNAL APTER DATABASE WHICH WILL ALLOW FOLKS TO QUICKLY LOOK INTO THE CONTRACTORS OF THE CITY OF BOSTON AND GET THEIR HISTORY WITH REGARDS TO OUR AND ALSO OTHER ISSUES. IT IS AVAILABLE IN OUR ANALYZED BOSTON.  I SHOULD MAKE FOLKS AND I CAN PUT THIS IN THE CHAT IF BUT YOU CAN LOOK UP A CONTRACTOR ANY TIME ON OUR ANALYZE BOSTON DATABASE IT'S JUST HARDER TO SORT THROUGH AND TAKE SOME TIME WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THAT EASY FOR OUR PROCUREMENT TEAM AND FOR ANYBODY SEEKING THAT INFORMATION. GREAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE FINDS . THERE'S YOU KNOW, THE $300 PER DAY FOR THOSE THAT DON'T COMPLY . YOU KNOW, I WAS WONDERING WHO TECHNICALLY HOW MUCH MONEY HAS BEEN TAKEN IN THROUGH THOSE FINES AND HOW MUCH MONEY DO WE GENERATE?  I'M SORRY IF I IF I DIDN'T CATCH THAT IF THAT WAS SAID AND WHO TECHNICALLY ISSUES THOSE FINES IS THAT DOES THAT COME FROM BJP OR DO WE ASK GST IN THEIR ZONING CODE AND CODE ENFORCEMENT TO SOMEONE ELSE THEY ARE SO IN TOTAL WE'VE COLLECTED $17,000. THOSE FUNDS CAME FROM ONE PROJECT. THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR SANCTIONS COME FROM THE BOSTON EMPLOYMENT COMMISSION BUT THE ACTUAL SANCTIONS ARE ISSUED BY THE CITY OF BOSTON SO THE FUNDS GO INTO THE GENERAL COFFERS WHEN THAT HAPPENS, WHO IN THE CITY OF BOSTON DO WE KNOW? SO WE MAKE RECKITT BOSTON PLANNING COMMISSION MAKES RECOMMENDATIONS AND THEN THE LAW DEPARTMENT DOES THE FINAL WORK IT SO ALSO THE LAW DEPARTMENT WILL SEND THE NOTICE UP SAYING YOU ARE NOT IN COMPLIANCE AND NOW WE'RE ABOUT TO WRITE A JOBS POLICY OFFICE WITH SUPPORT FROM OUR LORD OUR TEAM ON THE LAW OFFICE SENDS IN THE ISSUES OF FINES. SO OFFICIALLY WHEN SOMEONE IS FINED THE LETTER OF NONCOMPLIANCE AND THE RECOMMENDATION OR THE FINES GO COME FROM THE BOSTON RESIDENT JOBS POLICY ON RECOMMENDATION FROM THE BOSTON PLANNING COMMISSION WHETHER IT BE FROM THE LAW DEPARTMENT AND THEN WHO TAKES THAT WHO ACTUALLY ACCEPTS THE MONEY?  THE MONEY GENERAL CONTRACTORS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR PAYING THE FUNDS.  THE FUNDS GO INTO THE GENERAL TREASURY. OKAY. THERE'S A THAT WHEN WE GIVE THEM INFORMATION ON HOW TO PAY THEY HAVE LINKS ON WHERE THEY CAN DEPOSIT THE FUNDS OR WHERE WOULD WRITE THE CHECK TO THOSE KINDS OF THINGS GREATER.  THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU'RE THE OTHER KIND OF ONE OF MY LAST QUESTIONS IS THE IT'S SO IMPORTANT THE WORK YOU GUYS DO RIGHT BECAUSE THESE ARE THE JOBS THAT WILL KEEP FAMILIES IN THE CITY FOR THE FOLKS THAT WANT TO STAY HERE, THE FOLKS THAT ARE BEING FORCED OUT.  AND SO NOT JUST TO HAVE THESE JOBS AVAILABLE BUT ALSO MAKE THEY'RE BEING PAID THE FAIR WAGES.  SO THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU DO. BUT I'VE ALSO TALKED I GET APPROACHED LOT BY, YOU KNOW, VARIOUS PEOPLE THAT HAVE PROGRAMS SIMILAR TO THIS.  I MEAN THERE ARE THERE ARE GREAT ONES LIKE BUILDING PATHWAYS, RIGHT. THAT THAT DO THIS STUFF BUT THEN THERE'S THESE OTHER SMALLER ONES AND THEY SAY WELL WE TRAIN THE KIDS AND I DO IT OUT OF MY HOUSE OR I DO IT OUT OF MY BACKYARD SOME ARE BETTER THAN OTHERS BUT TO ME IT JUST SEEMS THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS OUT THERE WITH SORT OF A DIFFERENT APPROACH TO EACH ONE AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN WHAT HAS WORKED THE BEST THAT I KIND OF HAVE BUILDING PATHWAYS IS THE GOLD STANDARD RIGHT?  BUT IS THERE A BETTER WAY TO ORGANIZE THEM OR THAT YOU GUYS SEE LIKE BECAUSE EVERYONE'S DOING THIS LITTLE JOB AND HAVING YOU KNOW, TEN KIDS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD HERE OR THERE AND TEACHING A TRADE SOME OF THEM IS LICENSED, SOME OF THEM AREN'T LICENSED AND THEY'RE JUST TEACHING.  I'M TRYING TO THINK OF A WAY TO FORMALLY ORGANIZE THAT BETTER SO THAT WE CAN IF PEOPLE UNDERSTAND MORE WHERE TO GO. RIGHT. IT'S NOT JUST NO ONE THE GUY WHO DOES IT OUT OF HIS HOUSE BUT THERE'S A MORE FORMAL APPROACH WHERE THEY CAN DO THESE THINGS LIKE BUILDING PATHWAYS AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE NOTICED WHICH ONES WORK BETTER OR NOT OR IF THAT BECOMES AN ISSUE IN AND OF ITSELF WHERE PEOPLE ARE NOT PROPERLY TRAINED THROUGH ONE OF THESE BACKYARD ONES AND THEN IT BECOMES LIKE WELL YOU DIDN'T REALLY MEET THE REQUIREMENTS NEEDED TO GO FORWARD AND I JUST ANY ANY INFORMATION OR EDUCATION I COULD HAVE AROUND THOSE TYPE OF THINGS TO KNOW HOW TO HELP THEM BETTER.  YEAH. FIRST IF YOU WANT TO TAKE A LOOK SORRY CHRIS DO YOU WANT TO TAKE THAT BEFORE I CHIME IN? BUT I DON'T BECAUSE OF TIME SAKE WHY DON'T YOU CHIME IN AND TALK? OH ABSOLUTELY. SO WHAT I'VE SEEN SINCE I'VE BEEN AROUND IS THAT THE PROGRAMS THAT THEY OFFER LIKE HANDS YOU KNOW, AN EXPERIENCE ON SITE PICKING UP A HAMMER AND ARE THE BETTER ONES. FOR EXAMPLE, THE YOUTHBUILD BOSTON YOU KNOW THEY HAVE CLASSROOM WORK AND ALSO THEY'RE WORKING ON THE JOB SITE, RIGHT? THEY'RE FRAMING A WALL, PUTTING UP DRYWALL. I THINK THOSE ARE THE BETTER ONES. SOME OF THE OTHER ONES ARE RIGHT. THEY SAY THAT THEY'RE YOU KNOW, THEY'RE DOING THEY'RE STEPPING INTO THE SPACE.  BUT YOU KNOW, I THINK THE ONES THAT ARE HAVE IN THE CLASS ROOM WORK AND ON SITE ARE THE BETTER WAS I WOULD JUST QUICKLY ADD TOO COUNSELOR GREAT GREAT QUESTIONS WE WE DO NOT FUND OR SUPPORT UNLICENSED UNINSURED TRAINING PROGRAMS BECAUSE IF A STUDENT GET HURT YOU KNOW THERE'S LIABILITY AND ALSO WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE'S A GOOD END PRODUCT FOR THE STUDENTS ENROLLING IN THOSE PROGRAMS. THE SECOND THING IS WITH CONSTRUCTION IN AND WITH THE TRADES AS YOU KNOW THERE ARE CERTIFIED INDUSTRY STANDARDS BY THE STATE AND BY THE FEDS IN ORDER FOR YOU TO COMPLY TO WORK WITH SAFETY STANDARDS IN THAT APPROVED PROJECT. SO IT'S STRUCTURED IN A WAY THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT CREDENTIAL OR THAT LICENSE OR SUPERVISION TO DO THAT JOB WELL. SO WE DON'T WANT TO SET UP OUR RESIDENTS TO FAIL OR GET HURT JUST BECAUSE THERE'S A QUICK OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE IT WORK.  HAVING SAID THAT, WE DON'T EVER TURN AWAY PARTNERSHIPS.  WE NEVER TURN AWAY PEOPLE IN BOSTON WHO WANT TO HELP SO WHAT WE DO IS IN OUR GRANT MAKING PROCESS AND IN OUR FRAMEWORK OF WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT WE HAVE A CONTINUUM OF CAREER PATHWAYS AND THAT INCLUDES OUTREACH ASSESSMENT AND THEN TECHNICAL PARTNER TRAININGS, JOB PLACEMENTS, EMPLOYER ENGAGEMENT RETENTION AND SUPPORT ALL ANY OF THOSE PARTNERS CAN FIT INTO THAT CONTINUUM. SO WE WORK WITH OTHER PARTNERS WELL WE HAVE TEN SAME PARTNERS DOING THE SAME THING 10 TO 25 SOMETIMES ARE 50 GOING AFTER THE SAME SMALL POT OF FUNDING AND SO WE BRING OUR JOB IS TO CONVENE, BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER AND SAY OH YOU KNOW, JOHN'S CALL WITH ASSESSMENT AND YES A WELL BUT HE'S NOT GOOD WITH TECHNICAL TRAINING. OUR TECHNICAL TRAINING HAS BEEN CERTIFIED BY THE STATE HAVE CREDENTIALS, HAVE INSURANCE TO DO X, Y AND Z SO MAYBE TRANS SHOP AND TECHNICAL TRAINING BE DOING OUTREACH BUT BUT COLLABORATE WITH JOHN SO EVERYBODY GETS A PARTNERSHIP THAT THEY'RE COMFORTABLE WITH. WE DON'T FORCE IT BUT YOU GET MORE POINTS TO OBTAIN OUR FUNDING IF YOU GO IN IT TOGETHER AND WORK ON THAT CONTINUUM AND WE'VE DESIGNED THAT CONTINUUM BASED ON EVIDENCE BASED PRACTICES WITHIN THE STATE AND WITHIN NATIONAL MODELS AS WELL THANKS TO YOU AND I KNOW I KNOW MY TIME IS UP. I JUST WANT TO SAY I KNOW PROBABLY MYSELF AND A LOT OF OTHER MY COLLEAGUES WE GET APPROACHED BY SOME OF THESE FOLKS RIGHT NOW LOOKING FOR FUNDING AND THEY JUST SAY WE DO GOOD THINGS. WE DO GOD'S WORK AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE JOB. WE JUST NEED SOME MONEY AND WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE OKAY IF WE FIND THE MONEY IS THAT GO LIKE IS WE GET ME I RELY ON RIGHT IS THAT WORTH IT AND HOW MUCH SHOULD WE GO SO THAT'S THE REASON FOR MY QUESTIONING ANYWAY SO THANK YOU GUYS FOR THANK YOU, CHAD. APPRECIATE THE TIME. THANK YOU. COUNSELOR FITZGERALD COUNSELOR DURKIN YOU'RE UP. COUNSELOR FERNANDEZ ANDERSON YOU'RE ON DECK 5 MINUTES.  COUNSELOR DURKIN THANK YOU SO MUCH. CHAIR I REALLY APPRECIATE IT AND THANK YOU. TRAIN ARE I DON'T KNOW IF I CALL YOU CHIEF OR DIRECTOR BUT EITHER WAY I THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR WORK. I WANTED TO GET INTO SORT OF FOR RESIDENTS TO WHO ARE LISTENING IN WHAT HAS BEEN THE IMPACT OF THIS ORDINANCE SINCE 1985 AND I KNOW THERE WERE SOME AMENDMENTS MADE IN 2017 LIKE HOW HAVE THOSE CHANGES MADE THIS A MORE EFFECTIVE PROGRAM OR YOU MIGHT AS I COULD TAKE A STAB AT IT.  SO WHAT I'VE SEEN IS I'VE SEEN A LOT OF BOSTON RESIDENTS BEING EMPLOYED ON CONSTRUCTION SITES AND ALSO PEOPLE OF COLOR OVER TIME SINCE THE PROGRAM YOU KNOW, SINCE THE PROGRAM STARTED . AND I THINK BECAUSE OF THIS PROGRAM, YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE NOT MEETING THE MARKS THAT SOME WOULD LIKE AND THAT WE HAVE ON PEOPLE I DO THINK THAT THIS PROGRAM HAS CHANGED LIVES.  IT HAS HELPED PEOPLE YOU KNOW,  IN TERMS OF THEIR FINANCIAL SITUATIONS AND ALSO THEIR FAMILIES.  SO AND YOU KNOW, IT'S HAD A POSITIVE EFFECT ON ALSO THE BOSTON ECONOMY IN MY OPINION. SO BUT I DO THINK THAT LIKE WE STATED BEFORE, DID YOU KNOW THERE'S WORK TO BE DONE BECAUSE JUST THE WAY THE WORKFORCE IS RIGHT PEOPLE ARE ECONOMIC PEOPLE GOING WHERE IT'S CHEAPER. I THINK TRAINING IS IMPORTANT AND WE TALKED ABOUT TRAINING TRADE PROGRAMS, FUNDING TRAINING PROGRAMS.  YOU KNOW WHAT I LOVE ON A LOCAL LEVEL JUST HAVING THAT FOR EXAMPLE WHAT WE DO IN THE OFFICE TO OUTREACH TO DIFFERENT NONPROFITS, JUST MAKING SURE PEOPLE ARE SIGNING UP AND APPLYING FOR APPLYING FOR THE TRAINING AT THE AT THE LOCAL UNION HALL. RIGHT. SO WE DON'T KNOW WHO'S PUTTING IN APPLICATIONS AND SO THE PRESIDENT THAT'S ACCEPTING APPLICATIONS HE'S ONLY PICKING FROM WHO THE APPLICATIONS THAT THE APPLICATIONS THAT HE HAS YOU KNOW, SHE HAS IN FRONT OF THEM. SO I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT JUST GETTING THE OUTREACH, GETTING THE WORD OUT TO BOSTON RESIDENTS, MAKING SURE THAT THEY ARE APPLYING THE APPLYING ON TIME AND IF THEY NEED ASSISTANCE WITH RESUME BUILDING OR COMING UP WITH A LICENSE IN ORDER TO MEET THAT CRITERIA, IT SUBMIT THAT APPLICATION PROVIDING SUPPORT IN THAT AREA AS WELL. THANK YOU SO MUCH.  OH SORRY JODY, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE? I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT ONE OF THE BIG CHANGES IN THE ORDINANCE GAVE US THE TOOLS OF THOSE SEVEN COMPLIANCE MEASURES AND AGAIN WE'D LOVE TO BE ABLE TO FIND PEOPLE BASED ON THEIR ABILITY TO ACTUALLY MEET THOSE HIRING GOALS BECAUSE OF CONSTITUTIONAL REASONS WE CAN'T. SO THE CHANGES IN THE ORDINANCE THAT GAVE US THOSE COMPLIANCE MEASURES DO GIVE US MORE TEETH AND I THINK THE FACT THAT OUR CONSTRUCTION MONITORS ARE MEETING IN ADVANCE WITH EVERY CONSTRUCT CONTRACTOR LAYING OUT ALL THE GUIDELINES HELPING WITH BEST PRACTICES I MEAN THIS SETS US APART FROM A LOT OF CITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY THAT DON'T HAVE SIMILAR PROGRAMS WHERE CONTRACTORS ARE REALLY BEING THEY NEED TO TO REPORT OUT EVERY STEP ALONG THE WAY AND AGAIN, ARE WE MEETING THE GOALS WE WANT? YOU KNOW, THERE'S TO BE WE DEFINITELY KNOW THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME IMPROVEMENT IN THAT REGARD. BUT THE OVERSIGHT THAT WE PUT ON CONTRACTORS IS REALLY UNIQUE . THANK YOU. AND I JUST WANTED TO ASK SORT OF A MORE OVERARCHING QUESTION HOW DOES THIS FIT INTO OUR OVERALL GOAL FOR WORKFORCE TRAINING AND DIVERSITY IN DEVELOPMENT AND AND EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IN THE CHANGES WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT TO BE AROUND REFORM AND JUST MAKING SURE THAT DIVERSITY AND IS PART OF YOUR APPLICATION AND IS PART OF THE ARTICLE 80 PROCESS. YEAH, THIS IS PART OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND ALL THE INFORMATION THAT REQUIREMENTS AROUND BUT TOURISM JOBS POLICY IS PART OF THE ARTICLE 80 PROCESS. THAT'S WHAT KICKS OFF OUR MONITORING AND IT'S A CRITICAL COMPLIANCE TOOL TO HELP TRY TO GET TO THE GOALS THAT WE'RE SETTING AROUND THAT AND I THINK THE MOVE TO THE WORKER EMPOWERMENT CABINET FOR THE BOSTON RESIDENT JOBS POLICIES DID TWO THINGS ONE, IT REALLY PUT IT IN THE CONTEXT OF COMPLIANCE FOR LABOR OVERALL. YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL THE PIECES THAT CONTRACTORS ARE SUPPOSED TO MEET AROUND WAGE THEFT, HEALTH AND SAFETY, EVERYTHING BUT ALSO NOW IT'S PART OF THE THE THE ARM OF THE CITY THAT'S FOCUSED ON WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT AS WELL. SO THERE'S A LOT MORE OPPORTUNITY TO CONNECT THE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIES AND DOLLARS WITH THE COMPLIANCE AND OVERSIGHT DOLLARS AND LOOKING AT HOW DO WE PUT THAT UP FRONT WITH REGARDS TO PROJECT LABOR AGREEMENTS AND COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENTS AND THEN MAKE SURE THE COMPLIANCE ON THE OTHER END OF THAT IS HAPPENING AS WELL. AND I WOULD JUST SAY LIKE YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO FAR TO SEE THAT BOSTON DOES HAVE A HISTORY OF FAILING STUDENTS THAT HAVE SOUGHT A TECHNICAL EDUCATION.  BUT I THINK TODAY WE ARE MOVING IN A REALLY GOOD DIRECTION. I THE ADMINISTRATION HAVING A WORKER EMPOWERMENT CABINET AND LIKE FOCUSING ON THIS ISSUE AS SOMETHING CORE TO OUR SUCCESS AS A CITY IS REALLY IMPORTANT. BUT I THINK I'M A REALLY POSITIVE PERSON AND I LIKE TO THINK ABOUT WHAT ARE THE SUCCESSES WE HAVE AND HOW CAN WE REPLICATE THEM.  SO WHAT ARE SOME OF THOSE SUCCESSES THAT WE'VE SEEN AND AND YOU KNOW, EVEN IF WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO HIT SOME OF THE METRICS THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, HOW DO WE REPLICATE THE SUCCESS THAT WE HAVE SEEN?  I THINK IN THE WOMEN CATEGORY I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT THE DATA THAT I PROVIDED FROM 1989 UP UNTIL 2023, THE YOU KNOW, THE PERCENTAGE IS HAVE INCREASED A LOT FOR YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF THE WOMEN WORK AND THE OVERALL HOURS HAVE INCREASED AND SO IN THE WOMEN THAT WAS I HAVE KEPT UP THERE NOT AT 12% BUT I THINK IT'S BECOMING MORE COMMONPLACE TO SEE WOMEN WITH HARD HATS OR I KNOW WHETHER YOU'RE ON A CONSTRUCTION SITE OR YOU KNOW, YOU SEE THEM COMING HOME FROM WORK. SO YOU KNOW, I YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT ONLY THIS PROGRAM BUT THERE'S OTHER LIKE PGI THERE'S OTHER, YOU KNOW, ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, DRIVING THE BUS WHEN IT COMES TO WOMEN PARTICIPATION OR PROJECTS. AND I DO THINK WHEN I'VE SEEN THAT WE'VE HAD SOME SUCCESSES IN THAT CATEGORY. BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO BE INTENTIONAL, YOU KNOW, MORE INTO THE ROLE ESPECIALLY WITH THE BOSTON RESIDENT CATEGORY YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PARTS TO BOSTON RED IS RIGHT THEY COME THEY GO OR WHATEVER.  SO I THINK AGAIN THE OUTREACH IS TRAINING AND JUST MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE GETTING THE APPLICATIONS AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. SO HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, INCREASE IN THE PIPELINE WITH THE BOSTON RESIDENTS GIVES SO MUCH SHARE.  YEAH SORRY . THANK YOU, COUNCILOR DURKIN.  COUNCILOR FERNANDEZ ANDERSON YOU'RE 5 MINUTES WHEN YOU WERE I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU NOW THANK YOU CHAIR I CAME AND SO I'VE BEEN LISTENING A LOT OF MACHINES HAVE BEEN ASKED YOU COUNCILOR FERNANDEZ AND SO YOUR SOUND IS OFF.  I MEAN WE CAN I CAN SORT OF HEAR YOU. IT'S LIKE A LONG DISTANCE CALL. YOU'RE 5 MINUTES OUT AND STARTED SO I APPRECIATE THAT CHAIR THANK YOU SO MUCH. CAN YOU HEAR ME ? YEAH. GREAT. OKAY, CALM WAY TO THE HEARING WITH DO IT SO.  GOOD MORNING EVERYONE.  AMAZING WORK. THIS IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE DEPARTMENTS AND I APPRECIATE ALL OF THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE. I THINK I'M INTERESTED IN THAT. I APOLOGIZE, CHAIR THAT I WAS DELAYED AND I'M INTERESTED IN THE NUMBERS CHANGE FROM LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR. I UNDERSTAND THAT PUTTING IN METRICS AND CREATING THIS DASHBOARD THAT WE'VE BEEN ASKING FOR COUNCILOR MARIA COUNCILOR LAUREL AND MYSELF HAD BEEN WORKING ON THIS AND COUNCILOR LOUIJEUNE HAD BEEN WORKING ON THIS IN THE PREVIOUS YEARS AND I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT. SO IF I IF THAT QUESTION HASN'T BEEN ANSWERED, I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND IF THERE HAS BEEN SPECIFIC BY PERCENTAGE OR NUMBER CHANGE IN TERMS OF HIRING IN PARTICULARLY OBVIOUSLY WITH THE BIPOC AND WOMEN CONTRACTORS. YEAH I WAS COUNCILOR FOR IS THERE SOME JUST AND THIS IS YOUR TIME IS ON PAUSE THERE IS A SLIDE WHAT CAN SOMEONE BRING UP I MISSED IT THAT'S OKAY I CAN REVIEW IT THE DATA YEAH IT'S JUST FOR YOUR SAKE THE YEAH I MEAN FROM LAST FROM 2022 TO 2023 WE WENT FROM 24% RESIDENTS TO 22% RESIDENTS BEING HIRED WENT FROM 39% PEOPLE OF COLOR OF THE HOURS TO 37% AND FOR WOMEN AND WENT FROM 8% OF THE HOURS TO 7% WITH THE TOTAL NUMBER OF HOURS GOING DOWN FROM 2020 TO 2023. SORRY . YEAH WE'LL PUT YOU BACK OKAY.  THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH.  VERY HELPFUL. I GUESS IF I CAN ASK MY QUESTIONS AND I'LL HAVE I GUESS IF THERE HAVE BEEN ANSWERED LET ME KNOW AND THEN I CAN REVIEW THE TAPE.  CAN I GUESS HOW DOES THE COMMISSION ENSURE TRANSPARENCY IN TERMS OF REPORTING DATA IF THAT'S BEEN ANSWERED SO FAR? IF YOU DON'T HAVE A DASHBOARD OF METRICS, ARE WE REPORTING IT ? ARE YOU SUBMITTING TO ANYONE INFORMATION ON MECHANISMS THAT ARE IN PLACE TO FACILITATE PUBLIC ACCESS TO INFORMATION REGARDING IMPLEMENTATION FOR BOSTON RESIDENTS JOB POLICY AND HOW DOES THE COMMISSION ENSURE THAT IT'S ENFORCEMENT OF POLICY PROMOTES INCLUSIVITY AND EQUAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR ALL RESIDENTS PARTICULARLY PEOPLE OF COLOR AND WOMEN AND I GUESS SIMILAR TO COUNCIL DURKAN IN TERMS OF BEST PRACTICES, HAVE WE BEEN ABLE TO COMPARE AND IDENTIFY OR INCORPORATE INTO OUR APPROACH IN ENFORCING THE BOSTON JOB RESIDENCY?  THANK YOU SO MUCH COUNCILOR . THE DASHBOARD FOR THE BOUNDARIES AND DRIVE POLICY IS AVAILABLE ON OUR WEBSITE IT DOES HAVE DATA BROKEN DOWN BY THE CATEGORIES FOR THE LAST MOST RECENT YEAR. HOWEVER FOR THIS PRESENTATION OUR MANAGER CHRIS BROWN BROUGHT TOGETHER 30 YEARS OF DATA FOR REVIEW SO WE'LL MAKE SURE YOU GET THAT SLIDE DECK AND WE COULD MAKE THAT AVAILABLE ON OUR WEBSITE AS WELL AT THE MOMENT THE WEBSITE JUST FOCUSES ON PREVIOUS YEARS HOWEVER WHERE THERE IS A OUR ENTIRE SALESFORCE DATABASE IS AVAILABLE ON ANALYZE BOSTON AND I CAN SEND A LINK AS WELL SO THE PUBLIC CAN REVIEW BY CONTRACTOR BY DATE BY PROJECT ALL ABOUT AMAZON JOBS POLICY COMPLIANCE DATA AND AGAIN PROBABLY NOT AS EASY TO FIND AND WE COULD DO BETTER AT THAT BUT IT IS AVAILABLE AND WE'LL TRY TO MAKE SOME IMPROVEMENTS SO THAT FOLKS CAN LINK THAT DIRECTLY FROM THE MAIN AND AS A JOBS POLICY DATABASE.  THANKS JODY. I GUESS I WAS WONDERING IF RIGHT HOW HOW DO WE ACCESS IT AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE BAD PLAYER SO HAVE WE WHAT WHAT DO YOU DO ABOUT IT?  ANOTHER GREAT QUESTION WE ARE REALLY TO COMPILE INFORMATION BY CONTRACTOR AND WE ARE WORKING RIGHT NOW TO CREATE A DATABASE THAT'S AVAILABLE TO OUR PROCUREMENT TEAM THAT OUTLINES THE HISTORY OF ALL OF THE CONTRACTORS AND SUBCONTRACTORS WITH REGARDS TO THEIR ABILITY TO MEET THE HIRING GOALS THE BOSTON RESIDENT JOBS POLICY AND ALSO OTHER LABOR VIOLATIONS LIKE WAGE THEFT AND THINGS LIKE THAT. WE KNOW THAT IT CAN BE USED AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH CONTRACTING DECISIONS AND WE WANT TO MAKE THAT EASY FOR PROCUREMENT AND CONTRACTING STAFF FOR THE CITY. SO THAT'S A STEP ONE MOVING FORWARD WE MET WITH DO IT. WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO TRYING TO MOVE THAT FORWARD AND UP BY 25. IT'S AN INTERNAL DATABASE AND WE HOPE THAT IT WILL BE PUBLIC FACING AFTER AND INCLUDES INCLUDE NOT JUST WHAT RESIDENT JOBS POLICY DATA AGAIN BUT WAGE THEFT AND WAGE AND HOUR OR VIOLATION RETALIATION ANY DATA THAT IS PUBLICLY AVAILABLE FROM THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE, THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR COMBINED INTO ONE PLACE TO MAKE IT EASY FOR OUR PROCUREMENT STAFF TO MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON THOSE BASED ON HISTORY AND TO IDENTIFY THOSE THOSE BAD ACTORS WHO JUST CONSISTENTLY ARE NOT ONLY NOT MEETING THE HIRING GOALS BUT LATE PAYROLL AND ALL THE OTHER PIECES THAT WE TRACK. THANK YOU, JODY CHRISTOPHER, YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT IN TERMS OF NOT GETTING SPECIFIC INFORMATION WHO IS APPLYING WHAT WOULD YOU RECOMMEND IN TERMS OF US ACCESSING THAT INFORMATION?  OKAY. I'M SORRY IN TERMS OF INDIVIDUALS APPLYING TO THE DIFFERENT TRAINING PROGRAMS. YES. YEAH. SO WE ARE DEVELOPING JUST MADE COORDINATED IN OUR OFFICE. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON THE OUTREACH IN TERMS OF JUST GETTING YOU KNOW, DOING A BETTER JOB AND GETTING TOGETHER TO DATE THE SIGN UP DATE FOR DIFFERENT UNIONS, DIFFERENT TRAINING PROGRAMS WHERE THERE'S BUILDING PATHWAYS WHERE THE YOUTH WILL BOSTON I THINK THINK MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD PROVIDE LINKS TO BUT ALSO ON THE WEBSITE FOR THE PUBLIC TO BE ABLE TO YOU KNOW JUST GO ON THE WEBSITE AND CLICK ON THE LINK AND IT SHOWS ALL THE DIFFERENT SIGN UP DATES FOR THE UNIONS I THINK IS IMPORTANT IN TERMS OF OUTREACH. AGAIN BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE YOU KNOW I'VE BEEN HERE A WHILE AND I HAVEN'T YOU KNOW WE SAY OKAY THIS UNIT OR THIS TRAINING PROGRAM IS NOT TAKEN IN BOSTON OR IS IT BUT WE DON'T HAVE ACTUAL DATA ON WHO'S A PARTNER. SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE TRACK THE THE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE ACTUALLY APPLYING TO THESE PROGRAMS AND YOU KNOW, AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY MEET ALL THE CRITERIA OF DRIVER'S LICENSE, HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA. SO MANY ALL THE DOCUMENTATION. SO I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT JUST MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE APPLYING TO THE DIFFERENT UNIONS BECAUSE THE PERSON THAT'S PICKING, YOU KNOW, ONLY PICK FROM AN APPLICATION THAT'S IN FRONT OF I THINK MY TIME IS UP. YEAH. IF YOU HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION I APPRECIATE THAT I WAS GOING TO SAY I'M REALLY INTERESTED IN UNDERSTANDING LIKE HOW YOUR LIKE OPERATIONALLY HOW YOU ARE DOING THAT BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN DISTRICT SEVEN ESPECIALLY ROXBURY WHEN IS A JOB UP LIKE YOU SEE PEOPLE OUTSIDE PROTESTING THESE JOB SITES AND THEN JUST THE DISCONNECT OBVIOUSLY IS THAT YOU DON'T KNOW WHO'S APPLYING BUT THEN THEY'RE SAYING THEY'RE APPLYING AND THEN THE UNIONS OR OTHER FOLKS THAT ARE THE THE DEVELOPERS ARE TELLING YOU THAT THEY ARE DOING THE RIGHT THING AND IT HAS TO BE A PLATFORM OF , YOU KNOW, SOME SORT OF INCUBATOR THAT EVERYBODY IS ON THE SAME PAGE BECAUSE A DISCONNECT IS JUST NOT OKAY. AND SO YEAR AFTER YEAR WE'RE SAYING THE SAME THING. SO I'M REALLY HOPEFUL FOR THIS PROJECT WITH DO WHAT THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AND DIGITIZING THIS PLATFORM DATA LIKE METRICS THEREFORE DASHBOARD IS MORE COMPREHENSIVE, ALL THIS MORE ACCESSIBLE SO THAT WE CAN ALL THIS THIS A HOLD DEVELOPERS TO ACCOUNT. THANK YOU MS. CHAIR I'LL WAIT FOR THE SECOND CHAIR AND I GUESS I'M SORRY IS THIS THE FIRST ROUND? ARE WE GOING TO SECOND ROUND THIS THIS IS THE FIRST ROUND YOU KNOW I'LL OPEN MAYBE TO LIKE ONE BECAUSE WE HAVE A SECOND PANEL OF ADVOCATES SO YOU KNOW I WAS GOING TO OPEN UP FOR IF ANYONE HAS LIKE ONE FOLLOW UP QUESTION OR SOMETHING FOR UNDERSTANDABLE THAT'S OKAY I APPRECIATE THAT'S OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU.  I JUST NEXT UP IS COUNCILOR FLYNN.  I JUST I'LL I'LL SAVE MY QUESTIONS AFTER THAT. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR FANCY A 5 MINUTES? THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.  THANK YOU TO THE ADMINISTRATION TEAM THAT IS HERE AND DOING THIS IMPORTANT WORK I THE OPPORTUNITY TO JOIN JODY AT AN EVENT EARLIER THIS WEEK WITH THE CHINESE PROGRESSIVE ASSOCIATION ON ISSUES RELATING TO WAGE THEFT WHICH IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE BUT A LOT OF WORKERS ARE BEING EXPLOITED THROUGHOUT GREATER BOSTON,  ESPECIALLY IMMIGRANT WORKERS. SO I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE WORK OF THE WORK MA EMPOWERMENT TEAM, THE PPD PPD TEAM BUT ALSO THE COMMUNITY PARTNERS SUCH AS CHINESE PROGRESSIVE ASSOCIATION . SO MY QUESTION MY QUESTION IS NOT ON THAT. I JUST WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE IMPORTANT WORK YOU'RE DOING ON THAT. I GUESS MY QUESTION FOR FOR WHOEVER WOULD LIKE TO ANSWER WOULD BE THE THE BOSTON EMPLOYMENT COMMISSION ENFORCES THE THIS LAW THESE IMPORTANT LAWS WHEN CONTRACTORS ARE NOT IN COMPLIANCE AND THEY'RE NOT BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR, THEY'RE NOT THEY'RE NOT DOING WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING ARE WE INFORMING OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS SUCH AS ESD, SUCH AS DPD HOUSING DEPARTMENT ARE THEY GETTING CITY CONTRACTS?  THANK YOU, COUNSELOR QUINN GREAT QUESTION AND SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN REALLY TRYING TO WORK ON WE KNOW THAT A HISTORY OF COMPLIANCE WITH BOSTON RESIDENT DRUG POLICY CAN WEIGH IN WHEN THE CITY IS MAKING DECISION ABOUT CONTRACT. OUR TEAM IS TRYING TO MAKE THAT EASIER. WE'RE WORKING WITH DO IT TO TRY TO PULL DATA FROM THE BOSTON RESIDENT JOBS POLICY SALESFORCE AND OTHER DATABASES AS WELL AS WAGE THEFT WAGE AND OUR DEPARTMENT OF LABOR AND OUR ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE TO CREATE ONE EASY PLACE WHERE PROCUREMENT AND CONTRACTING STAFF CAN LOOK TO IDENTIFY WHETHER OR NOT CONTRACTORS HAVE BEEN MEETING THE COMPLIANT ALL OF THE VARIOUS LABOR COMPLIANCE THINGS THAT WE TRACK HERE AT THE CITY. SO WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO GET THAT TOGETHER FIRST INTERNALLY AND OFF POINT 25 AND THEN WE HOPE TO MAKE IT A PUBLIC EXTERNAL DATABASE AND WE WILL SHARE THAT ACROSS ALL DEPARTMENTS WITHIN CITY SO THAT FOLKS ARE MAKING DECISIONS ABOUT CONTRACTING CAN BE SURE TO TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT. IT'S REALLY AN IMPORTANT STRATEGY THAT WE HAVE AT LEVERAGE AS MUCH AS WE'D LIKE TO AND WE'RE WORKING VERY HARD ON THAT.  THANK THANK YOU JODY. YES, I AGREE. ANYONE THAT'S NOT IN COMPLIANCE AND PEOPLE THAT ARE BLATANTLY CONTRACTORS BLATANTLY NOT DOING WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING.  BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR, BEING A GOOD RESIDENT I DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD GET CITY CONTRACTS AT ALL AND IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE A SYSTEM IN PLACE THAT DO IT AS PART OF SO EVERY CITY DEPARTMENT KNOWS WHAT CONTRACTORS ARE NOT FOLLOWING THE CITY RULES AND CITY GUIDELINES SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S SOMETHING I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO ADVOCATE FOR.  MY MY MY FINAL QUESTION IS ON ON THIS ISSUE. WHAT IS WHAT IS THE CHALLENGES THAT MAY TAKE PLACE DURING AN ECONOMIC SLOWDOWN IN IN CONSTRUCTION IF THERE IS ONE NOT SAYING THERE IS GOING TO BE ONE BUT IF THERE IS ONE, WHAT IMPACT DOES THAT HAVE ON THE BOSTON JOBS POLICY, BOSTON JOBS AND BOSTON RESIDENTS? HOW IS THAT IMPACTED WHEN YOU SEE UPS UP AND DOWN IN IN BOSTON'S ECONOMY, BOSTON'S CONSTRUCTION AND DEVELOPMENT PROCESS? WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT ? CHRIS, LET YOU CHIME IN HERE BUT WE DID IN OUR SLIDE DECK CHRIS WAS ABLE TO PULL TOGETHER 30 YEARS OF DATA AND I THINK IT SHOWS THAT, YOU KNOW YOU CAN SEE THE WORK HOURS GO DOWN AND IT DOES MEAN LESS WORK FOR BOSTON RESIDENTS BUT THE PERCENTAGES HAVE NOT DON'T THAT DRASTICALLY ALTHOUGH IT DOES SEEM WHEN LOOKING AT THE DATA WHICH WE WILL SHARE WITH YOUR OFFICE THAT IT IS BOSTON RESIDENTS, PEOPLE OF COLOR AND WOMEN WHO SEEM TO BE HIT FIRST WHEN THERE IS A DOWNTURN. IF YOU DO A DEEP DIVE INTO THE ANALYSIS IT'S NOT HUGE BUT YOU SEE THOSE PERCENTAGE CASES GO DOWN AS YOU SEE THAT WORK HOURS GO DOWN. CHRIS, YOU'VE LOOKED AT THAT DATA MORE.  OH ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. SO PRECISELY AS YOU STATED JODY I THINK WHAT THE WHAT I'VE SEEN WHAT TENDS TO HAPPEN IS COMPANIES ARE USUALLY KNOW THEY STICK WITH THEIR CORE WORKERS RIGHT AND A LOT OF TIMES FOR SOME OF THE LARGER COMPANIES THEIR COWORKERS ARE NOT NECESSARILY BLOCKS OF RESIDENTS AND SO OR YOU KNOW ARE PEOPLE OF COLOR ARE WOMEN BUT YOU WON'T SEE A DRASTIC DECREASE IN THOSE AREAS.  BUT YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THEY GRAVITATE TO, YOU KNOW, JUST HUMAN NATURE COMPANIES GRAVITATE TO THE PEOPLE THAT THEY'VE HAD WORKING FOR FOR A LONG TIME AND THEIR COWORKERS AND BUT IT ALSO PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR COMPANIES TO DIVERSIFY THEIR WORKFORCE,  THEIR WORKFORCE BECAUSE YOU HAVE A LOT OF BOSSES MORE PEOPLE OUT OF WORK, RIGHT?  SO THAT INCLUDES BOSS OR IS IT PEOPLE OF COLOR AND WOMEN THAT ARE ON BENCH.  SO IT ALSO PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A COMPANY TO GO AFTER A BOSS AND RAISE IT AND KEEP THAT PERSON AND THAT PERSON COULD THEREFORE BECOME A CORE CORE MEMBER OF OF THAT COMPANY'S CREW BACK DOWN THAT COUNCILOR FLYNN THAT THAT THAT WAS YOUR 5 MINUTES. YEAH. YEAH. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THANK YOU TO JODY. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING FROM THE TESTIMONY OF THE PUBLIC THAT'S IMPORTANT. I ALSO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE COUNCILOR BALDWIN COUNCILOR CHUCK TURNER IN MAY OF FLYNN FOR THEIR WORK ON THESE ISSUES YEARS AGO. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU MR CHAIR, FOR GIVING ME AN EXTRA MINUTE.  THANK YOU. SO I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AS THE CHAIR JUST FOR MY COLLEAGUES I WAS GOING TO BECAUSE WE HAVE A SECOND PANEL I WASN'T GOING TO HAVE A FULL KIND OF SECOND ROUND BUT IF ANYONE HAD ONE FOLLOW UP QUESTION, YOU KNOW YOU CAN RAISE YOUR HAND AND AFTER AFTER I GET THROUGH A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, HAPPY CALL ON YOU THAT WE YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SOME ADVOCATES WHO HAVE BEEN PATIENTLY WAITING AND I'D LIKE TO GET TO THEM I GUESS, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF THIS ORDINANCE, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT IT, IT'S IT'S A IT'S A IT'S VERY GOOD. IT JUST IT'S IT'S HARD TO ENFORCE AND I GUESS, YOU KNOW, JODY, YOU HAD YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN IN PLACE FOR NEARLY 40 YEARS AND THERE'S BEEN ONE SANCTION FROM LAST YEAR. CAN YOU TELL US I MEAN DO YOU DO YOU THINK ARE ARE WE DO WE HAVE THE STAFF OR ARE YOU ABLE TO ISSUE SANCTIONS WHEN OR ARE FOLKS SUBMITTING THEIR PAPERWORK ON TIME AND THERE'S NO SANCTIONS THAT WE NEED TO ISSUE WHAT ARE YOU THERE?  YEAH, I'LL ANSWER QUICKLY BECAUSE I KNOW WE WANT TO GET ONTO THE PANEL. I THINK IT'S A REALLY CHALLENGING YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY WE CANNOT SANCTION A FINE PEOPLE FOR NOT MEETING THE HIRING GOALS BECAUSE OF CONSTITUTIONAL REASONS. SO WE'RE LEFT WITH THE LATE PAYROLL AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND YOU KNOW, THE REALITY IS THAT EVERY MONTH THERE'S HUNDREDS OF LATE PAYROLL SUMMER JUST A FEW DAYS LATE SUMMER MORE WE LOOK FOR PATTERNS AND IF THERE IS A CONTRACTOR WEATHER PATTERN OF SIGNIFICANT LATE PAYROLL THEN WE TRY TO HONE IN ON THAT. AND I WANT TO SAY THAT THAT WHILE WE THE FIRST SANCTIONS AND VIOLATIONS WERE ISSUED, THE BUDGET PLANNING COMMISSION HAS BEEN WORKING ON NONCOMPLIANCE AND NEGOTIATING SUPPORT FOR PIPELINE FOR THE PIPELINE WELL BEFORE WE CAME ON BOARD. SO I I THINK IT'S IT'S JUST A CHALLENGE OF WANTING TO TO REALLY MAKE AN IMPACT WITH SANCTIONS AND VIOLATIONS, NOT JUST A SLAP ON THE WRIST OR A FEW THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR A LATE PAYROLL. IS THAT REALLY GOING TO GET US TO THE GOALS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET AT WITH THE THE BARE P AND WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO THINK ABOUT WAYS THAT WE CAN ENGAGE WITH SANCTIONS AND VIOLATIONS AND WORKING WITH CONTRACTORS DIRECTLY TO GET CLOSER TO THE GOALS AS OPPOSED TO THOSE TO SLAPPING FOLKS ON THE WRIST. AND CHRIS, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO ADD TO THAT BUT THAT'S THE MAIN IT JUST IT'S A CHALLENGE.  OKAY, CHRIS I DIDN'T IT IF YOU HAD SOMETHING ELSE OUT IF YOU DON'T I'D MOVE ON TO MY NEXT QUESTION. I THINK YOU CAN MOVE ON. OKAY WELL SO SO IN THE STATUTE IT SAYS THAT YOU KNOW THAT THAT YOU KNOW WE CAN CREATE A RECORD OF NONCOMPLIANCE THAT MAY BE CONSIDERED FOR FUTURE CONTRACTS . YOU KNOW, SO DO WE HAVE DO WE HAVE A RECORD OF THE FOLKS WHO ARE MISSING? YOU SAID A LOT IT'S A COMMON OCCURRENCE.  DO YOU HAVE THAT DATA? WE ARE WORKING WITH OUR TO GET FROM SALESFORCE TO BE IT. WE CAN SEARCH BY CONTRACTOR AND WE CAN GET THEIR HISTORIC ABILITY TO SEE THEIR HISTORY IN MEETING COMPLIANCE WITH THE HIRING GOALS.  AND AGAIN I THINK THIS IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT PIECE WE REALLY DO WANT TO TRY TO MOVE TOWARDS MAKING IT EASY FOR OUR CONTRACTING AND PERMIT STAFF TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT INFORMATION SO THAT THEY CAN EASILY USE IT IN MAKING DECISIONS ABOUT CONTRACTING AND PROCUREMENT WITH THE CITY SO WE'RE WORKING TO TRY TO DO THAT. OUR SALESFORCE DATA BASE DOES MAKE THAT EASIER. THERE'S NO FORMAL RECORD OUTSIDE OF OUR DATABASE BUT WE ARE TRYING TO CREATE SOMETHING THAT IS MORE COMPREHENSIVE FOR PROCUREMENT AND CONTRACTING STAFF.  OKAY. AND THEN JUST ALSO IN THE ORDINANCE IT SAYS THAT THE CITY OF BOSTON MAY SUSPEND THE WORK OF OR PAYMENTS TO CONTRACTORS MANAGERS WHO VIOLATE THE ORDINANCE UNTIL COMPLIANCE IS OBTAINED AND MAY TERMINATE THEIR CONTRACT AFTER REPEATED VIOLATIONS.  AND AGAIN, I YOU KNOW, IT'S IMPORTANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE VIOLATION IS NOT SUBMITTING THE PAYROLL RECORDS ON TIME IT'S NOT MISSING THE DOES THIS THE THE GUIDELINES ENTIRELY SO I MEAN IT COULD BE SOMEBODY HIRES A NO YOU KNOW THE RIGHT NUMBER OF PEOPLE BUT THEY JUST HAVE A BAD PAYROLL DEPARTMENT. YOU KNOW I DON'T I DON'T KNOW IF THOSE GO TOGETHER BUT DO YOU THINK WE SHOULD WE CAN WE SHOULD BE DOING MORE OF THAT OR HAVE WE EVER DONE HAVE WE EVER SUSPENDED PAYMENTS TO SOMEONE FOR NOT FOR NOT SUBMITTING THE PAYROLL RECORDS OR TERMINATED THEIR CONTRACT? NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE CHRIS WOULD HAVE MUCH MORE INSTITUTIONAL MEMORY. I WILL SAY THAT AS WE WERE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE SANCTIONS WE DID ISSUE AND WAITING FOR PAYMENT FROM THAT PARTICULAR CONTRACTOR WE REMINDED THEM THAT WE HAD THAT POWER AND THE PAYMENT CAME INTO THE CITY THE NEXT DAY.  WELL IN TERMS OF THE PUBLIC PROJECTS WE DO HAVE SO WE'RE NOT RECEIVING, YOU KNOW, THE PAYROLL TO CERTIFY PAYROLLS. WE DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO CONTACT THE LAND DEPARTMENT AND SAY HEY, LISTEN, WE'RE NOT GETTING PAYROLL FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT. CAN YOU HOLD THE PAYMENT UNTIL WE GET ALL THE INFORMATION WE NEED TO CERTIFY PAYROLLS OR WHATEVER ELSE IS LACKING DOES HAVE DOES IT HAPPEN OFTEN? NO, BECAUSE I THINK MOST OF THE COMPANIES ARE SUBMITTING THE PAYROLLS. BUT IF IT'S IN A CASE IN THE PAST WHERE IT'S BEEN EGREGIOUS ,THEN WE WE ARE WE DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO REACH OUT TO A LINE DEPARTMENT AND SAY HEY, THIS COMPANY, THIS PROJECT HASN'T BEEN SUBMITTING THE PAYROLLS. PLEASE COULD YOU HOLD THAT THAT COMPANIES CHECK THAT? OKAY. AND THEN SO LOOKING AT THE ORDINANCE, IT SEEMS LIKE, YOU KNOW, CONTRACTORS HAVE THREE WAYS OF COMPLYING. RIGHT. AND THERE'S ONE IS TO ACTUALLY MEET THE THRESHOLDS WHICH SEEMS LIKE FEW ARE ABLE TO DO THAT TOO IS TO MEET A LONG LIST OF OF REQUIRE IT SO IT'S MEETING WITH PEOPLE ONE STUCK OUT TO ME THAT IT'S IN GENERAL CONTRACTING THE CONTRACT WAS SHOULD PROVIDE THE NAME ADDRESS TELEPHONE NUMBER OF EACH BOSTON RESIDENT PERSON OF COLOR AND WOMAN WITH SOUGHT EMPLOYMENT BUT WHO WAS NOT HIRED SO DO YOU DO YOU HAVE THAT DO PEOPLE ACTUALLY PROVIDE THAT DATA WE ARE WORKING ON? NO WE THAT CAUGHT OUR EYE AS WELL ESPECIALLY AS I STARTED WE DIDN'T REALLY STARTED LOOKING IN TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ORDINANCE I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE BOSTON RESIDENT DRUG POLICY JOB BANK WARNER JANEY JANINE MCLAREN TO CREATE A DASHBOARD OF THE PROJECTS OF WHEN WE WERE RECEIVING AND NOT RECEIVING THAT INFORMATION SO WE CAN BETTER ASSESS SIMILAR TO PAYROLL WHEN PEOPLE ARE MEETING THE REQUIREMENT THAT CONTRACTORS ARE SUPPOSED TO MEET IS IT RELEASED THE BOSTON RESIDENT DRUG POLICY I THINK THE SHORT ANSWER IS NOT OFTEN AND WE NEED TO FIX IT.  YEAH I REALLY FEEL LIKE THAT WOULD BE AN IMPORTANT SET OF DATA BECAUSE THEN WE KNOW YOU KNOW WHO'S WHO'S APPLYING FOR JOBS AND NOT GETTING THEM. YOU KNOW I, I REPRESENTED MIGRANT FARMWORKERS. THERE'S A GUEST WORKER PROGRAM TO HIRE A GUEST WORKER. EMPLOYERS HAVE TO CERTIFY THAT THEY'VE BEEN SEARCHING FOR WORKERS LOCALLY BEFORE THEY TRY TO GET FARMWORKERS FROM MEXICO OR GUATEMALA OR VIETNAM OR SOMETHING AND THEY OFTEN IT'S IT'S KIND OF A SHAM PROCESS AND I FEEL LIKE WE REALLY YOU KNOW, THERE'S TOOLS IN HERE.  YOU KNOW, I THINK WE CAN USE A THE LAST THING WE'LL JUST HAVE TO WORK WITH THINGS BASED ON THE ORDINANCE. THERE'S THERE'S ALSO YOU KNOW, COMPLIANCE MONITORS ARE ALLOWED TO MAKE VISITS AND GENERAL CONTRACTORS OR SUBCONTRACTORS.  SHELTON CORRECTIVE ACTION MEETINGS WITH THE COMPLIANCE MONITOR DO THOSE HAVE THOSE BEEN HAPPENING?  CHRIS YOU GOT THAT ONE? YEAH, YEAH. SO WE DO PERFORM SITE VISIT PUBLIC AND PRIVATE PROJECTS. THE MONITORS ARE ON SITE AND THEY GO OUT TO VERIFY WHAT'S BEEN SUBMITTED RIGHT THEY HAVE PAYROLLS OF SUBMITTED TO US WE GET DATA. CHRIS BROWN BOSTON RESIDENT IS WORKING ON THIS PROJECT SO THE COMPLIANCE OFFICER GOES OUT AND YOU KNOW MAKES DOES A SPOT CHECK MAKE SURE CHRIS BROWN IS WORKING ON A PROJECT IN TURN OF CORRECTIVE ACTION MEETING YES WE MEET WITH CONTRACTORS WHERE THEY ARE NON-COMPLIANT THEY COULD BE AN OCCUPYING SEVERAL DIFFERENT WAYS OR JUST ONE WAY COULD BE NON-COMPLIANT WITH THE NUMBERS THE THE WOMEN NUMBERS WE MEET WITH THEM TRY TO COLLABORATE THEM, DEVELOP A PLAN WHAT'S GOING ON?  WHY IS IT THAT YOU DON'T HAVE THE 12% GO IN ACTUAL PAPERWORK AND PROVE THAT THEY HAVE LOOKED FOR INDIVIDUALS, DEVELOP A PLAN TO MOVE FORWARD A TIMELINE IN ORDER TO INCREASE NUMBERS? SO YES, AND THAT GOES FOR, YOU KNOW, ALL CATEGORIES IN TERMS OF THE WORK HOURS AND THE PERCENTAGES. IT ALSO GOES FOR PAPERWORK. SO IF WE HAVE A COMPANY THAT'S NOT SUBMITTING PAYROLLS OR WHATEVER THE PAPERWORK IS, WE CAN MEET WITH THEM ABOUT THAT AS WELL AND WE CAN WE DO THAT ON A YOU KNOW, ON A REGULAR BASIS.  OKAY. JUST JUST ONE MORE QUICK THING . SO IF YOU IF YOU DON'T HIRE ENOUGH WORKERS, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTS, PEOPLE OF COLOR WOMEN AND YOU DON'T GO THROUGH ALL THESE PROCESSES WHERE YOU MAINTAIN US, YOU CAN STILL SATISFY THE ORDINANCE IN THIS THIRD WAY WHICH TO ME IS IS VERY INTERESTING YOU DEMONSTRATE THE HIGH AND PRACTICAL ODDITY OF COMPLYING WITH THE STANDARDS. LET'S SAY YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING AND THERE ARE JUST YOU KNOW IT'S ONLY WHITE MEN FROM OUTSIDE OF BOSTON WHO ARE LIKE SCUBA DIVING OR SOMETHING BUT BUT YOU CAN STILL SATISFY IT BY BY HIRING A APPRENTICES AND THEN ALL THE APPRENTICES ARE TRAINEES ARE BOSTON RESIDENTS PEOPLE OF COLOR YOU'RE MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS THAT'S IN THE ORDINANCE IS THAT EVER HAPPENED?  IT HAS TO BE NEGOTIATED IN ADVANCE SO IN THE YEAR AND A HALF THAT I'VE BEEN WITH B OUR JP I HAVE NOT SEEN IT THOUGH YOU KNOW YOU WILL SEE PROJECT LABOR AGREEMENTS THAT HAVE IN IT INCORPORATED THE BJP GUIDELINES WITH APPRENTICESHIP RATIOS SOMETIMES CHRIS YOU'VE GOT THE HISTORY HERE AND IN YOUR 30 YEARS HAVE YOU SEEN ANYBODY COMPLY IN THAT MANNER?  I HAVE NOT. OKAY.  WELL YEAH, I MEAN I FEEL LIKE WE GET TO THAT. IT'S ANOTHER TO AN EMPLOYEE. WE GET APPRENTICES TO BE TRAINED, WE GET PEOPLE INVOLVED BUT I GUESS THAT COMES BACK TO YOU KNOW ALL WE HAVE IS A SLAP ON THE WRIST FOR PAYROLL ISSUES I GUESS JODY I'LL I'LL LEAVE THE LAST QUESTION FOR YOU IS WHAT DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON WHAT WOULD BE A MORE EFFECTIVE TOOL THAN THE $300 FINE?  AND YEAH, WE'VE DONE A LOT OF THINKING ABOUT THIS AND I THINK THE MAIN THING WE WANT TO GET AT IS REALLY ENSURING THAT FOLKS ARE MEETING BEST PRACTICES.  WE NEED TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE MARKET HOW MANY WORKERS ARE THERE IN BOSTON?  I THINK SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU BROUGHT UP BECAUSE WE ALWAYS HEAR FROM CONTRACTORS THAT WE TRIED AND THERE WEREN'T ENOUGH BOSTON RESIDENTS WE NEED TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THAT QUESTION WHEN IT WHEN IT COMES UP AND DATA AND IN RESEARCH BUT WE REALLY WE WANT THEM TO BE MEETING THESE GOALS SO WE SEE APPROACHES OF HELPING WITH BEST PRACTICES. THIS IS WHY WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE SOME WEBINARS WITH OUR CONSTRUCTION MONITORS AND WE WANT TO HOLD I THINK WE HAVE NOT USED ALL THE TOOLS IN OUR TOOLBOX THE CREATION OF A RECORD OF NONCOMPLIANCE AND ENSURING THAT CONTRACTING AND PROCUREMENT STAFF UNDERSTAND AND CAN USE THAT AS PART OF THEIR DECISION MAKING. THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVEN'T DONE AND WE REALLY WE REALLY WANT TO UTILIZE THAT ACROSS THE BOARD FOR LABOR COMPLIANCE. YOU KNOW, AS IT PERTAINS TO WAGE AND HOUR ISSUES AND OTHER ISSUES AS WELL.  OKAY. WELL THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I JUST WANT TO THROW IT BACK TO MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES AS IF ANYBODY YOU KNOW I'M GOING TO COME END AND THIS PANEL I HOPE THE ADMINISTRATION WILL STICK AROUND TO HEAR THE ADVOCATES. BUT IF ANYONE WANTS TO RAISE THEIR HAND, YOU GET A QUESTION . I'M NOT SEEING ANY QUESTIONS.  I'D LIKE TO MOVE ON TO THE SECOND PANEL AGAIN. I FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HEARD THAT THIS IS A GROUP OBVIOUSLY. THANK YOU FOR COMPILING THE DATA AND GIVING US A CLEAR SNAPSHOT OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN OUR CITY AND WHAT WE CAN YOU KNOW WHAT WE NEED TO FOCUS ON, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S BEEN ON THE BOOKS FOR 40 YEARS AND I FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE WORK TO DO TO TO MEET TO MEET THE GOALS . SO LET'S IF I IF I CAN THERE ARE I'M NOT SURE WHO IS HERE FROM THE ADVOCATES IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE LIZ SKIDMORE WHO'S WITH THE POLICY GROUP ON TRADES WOMEN'S ISSUES AND PRISCILLA FLYNN WHO'S THE FOUNDER AND EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE BUS WITH THE BUS AND BUS EMPLOYMENT COMMISSIONER AND SHE'S WITH THE MARCUS ANTHONY HALL EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTE AND FLYNN AND ASSOCIATE SO I AGAIN THANK YOU TO THE ADMINISTRATION.  I HOPE YOU'LL STICK AROUND AND I GUESS LIZ AND PRISCILLA I WILL THROW IT TO YOU FOR YOU KNOW STATEMENTS.  LIZ SKIDMORE, YOU'RE UP FIRST. OH OH, YOU'RE ON MUTE. OKAY. I KNOW ABOUT THAT. YOU KNOW NOW I CAN YOU ALL RIGHT, GOOD. WELL, THANK YOU ALL. THIS IS A REALLY RICH HEARING WITH A LOT OF INFORMATION AND I'M A BIT OF A DATA NERD SO I APPRECIATE THAT. MY NAME IS LIZ SKIDMORE.  THANK YOU FOR INVITING ME TO SPEAK TODAY. I LIVE IN ROXBURY AND I'VE BEEN A UNION CARPENTER FOR 35 YEARS. EVER SINCE I STARTED AS AN APPRENTICE I HAVE LOVED BEING A CARPENTER AND I WORK TO BRING MORE WOMEN INTO THE UNION CONSTRUCTION PARTICULARLY PRIORITIZING WOMEN OF COLOR.  IN 2008 AFTER TRYING A LOT OF THINGS TO GET MORE WOMEN INTO THE TRADES THAT REALLY DIDN'T WORK. I CO-CONVENER THE POLICY GROUP ON TRADES WOMEN'S ISSUES WHICH HAS WORKED TO DRIVE BETTER POLICY AND PUT IT INTO ACTION TO CRUSH THE BARRIERS TO WOMEN IN CONSTRUCTION.  WE'VE MADE PROGRESS COLLECTIVELY AND THE BJP IS PART OF THAT SINCE MOVING TO AN INTEGRATED SUPPLY AND DEMAND STRATEGY.  SO SUPPLY FOR YOUR APPRENTICESHIP HIGH SCHOOLS, ALL THE OUTREACH DEMAND IS MAKING SURE THAT WORKERS ACTUALLY GET HIRED ON THE JOB.  MASSACHUSETTS NUMBERS HAVE GONE UP THE NATIONAL RATE OF WOMEN IN APPRENTICESHIP IN CONSTRUCTION IN THE US IS 4.4%. IN MASSACHUSETTS WE'RE AT 10.4% ONE OF THE HIGHEST IN THE COUNTRY AND THAT'S BEEN A STEEP INCREASE SINCE WE'VE CHANGED OUR STRATEGIES. WE'VE GROWN FOR EXAMPLE IN 2012 THERE ARE 173 WOMEN IN UNION CONSTRUCTION IN THE STATE NOW THERE ARE LAST DATE OF 2022 THERE WERE 763. I WILL NOTE THAT THE NONUNION SECTOR HAS A TOTAL CURRENTLY OF 61 WOMEN AND APPRENTICESHIP IN CONSTRUCTION WHICH TELLS YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHO'S MAKING THE EFFORT AND IS ATTRACTING THE WOMEN I WANT APPRECIATE THE BJP BROUGHT THE ORDINANCE ITSELF AND THE STAFF IN THAT DEPARTMENT AND ALL THE WORK THEY DO. I WORK WITH TRANS WOMEN GROUPS AROUND THE COUNTRY AND THEY'RE ALL JEALOUS OF WHAT WE HAVE HERE WITH THAT APPRECIATION MY MAIN MESSAGE IS WE CAN DO BETTER ESPECIALLY FOR WOMEN. THERE'S A QUICK NOTE ON WHY WE PRIORITIZE WOMEN BRINGING WOMEN PARTICULARLY WOMEN OF COLOR INTO GOOD UNION CONSTRUCTION CAREERS. THIS TRANSFORMATIVE FOR ALL THE DATA THAT WAS JUST SHARED ABOUT THE IMPACT OF ECONOMIC IMPACT IT DOESN'T JUST CHANGE THEM IT CHANGES THEIR FAMILIES, THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS, THEIR WHOLE COMMUNITY 75% OF PEOPLE LIVING IN POVERTY IN MASSACHUSETTS ARE IN SINGLE FEMALE HEADED HOUSEHOLDS, WHICH MEANS POLICIES AND PRACTICES THAT MOVE THOSE WOMEN OUT OF POVERTY AND INTO GOOD CAREERS HAVE A VERY SIGNIFICANT IMPACT.  AND LASTLY THIS I WANT TO SHARE THAT MOVING GENDER MOVES RATES AND I BELIEVE THIS IS FOR TWO REASONS EVERYWHERE WE HAVE THE DATA A LITTLE OVER HALF THE HOURS WORKED BY WOMEN ARE BEING WORKED BY WOMEN OF COLOR FOR EXAMPLE IN THE BJP FULL DATASET IT JUST A LITTLE OVER 54% OF WOMEN'S HOURS ARE BEING WORKED BY WOMEN OF COLOR IN ADDITION, MAKING COMPLIANCE WORK BETTER BRINGS MORE COMPLIANCE FROM MEN OF COLOR ALSO.  SO HOW DO WE DO BETTER? TWO MAIN POINTS AND TWO SHE'LL PROBABLY TELL A GOOD TALK PER DAY SO I'M TRYING TO TIGHTEN IT UP ONE BETTER DATA ANALYSIS TO FURTHER INSTITUTIONALIZATION OF BEST PRACTICES WE HAVE A HOW TO MANUAL FOR MEETING WORKFORCE GOALS THAT WAS DEVELOPED IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE MASS GAMING COMMISSION AND THE MATH BUILDING AUTHORITY. IT'S CALLED FINISHING THE JOB CAN BE FOUND ON THE DTI WEBSITE WHICH IS POLICY GROUP AND TRADESMEN THAT WORK SO DIG A LITTLE BIT INTO THE DATA FIRST. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR GETTING THE PUBLIC DATABASE COMPLETE AGAIN IT WAS NOT COMPLETE FOR A LITTLE WHILE AS DATABASES CHANGED. I UNDERSTAND THAT'S COMPLAINT THAT'S A BIG DEAL AND VERY HELPFUL TO THOSE OF US ON THE GROUND.  SO JUST A FEW LITTLE THOUGHTS AND QUESTIONS ON THAT. THE BJP DATA ONE IS ONE OF THE 2023 DATA WE POSTED IT ALSO AS YOU DEVELOPING A DASHBOARD WOULD BE GREAT IF YOU COULD ADD DOLLAR VALUE TOTALS TO THE PROJECT. IT HELPS SORT OF GIVE A SENSE OF SCALE.  IT'D BE GREAT SOME OF THE DATA THAT CHRIS BROWN SHARED AND THE GRAPHIC USE OF THAT DATA WE CREATE TREND LINES FOR PROJECTS THAT REALLY HELPS YOU SEE ARE WE GOING UP OR ARE WE GOING DOWN AND I HOPE THAT COULD BE INCLUDED IN THE THE THE THE UPCOMING DASHBOARD. SO THE OVERALL THE ENTIRE DATABASE IS LIKE 72000000 HOURS SHOWS OVERALL AVERAGE FOR PEOPLE OF COLOR 38% LAST YEAR WHICH IS 2022 WHICH IS UP ON THE BJP WEBSITE SHOWS 37% SO THAT'S A DECREASE. SO WHAT'S GOING ON THERE? OUR NETWORK TOTAL ARE LAST YEAR ARE AT 8% WHICH SHOWS A GROWTH OVER THE TOTAL OF ALL THE DATABASE OF 6%. SO THAT COVERED AS CHRIS SAID IT'S NOT MEETING THE GOAL OF 12% IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS. YOUR REPORT SHOWS IT'S THE 7% WHICH IS A DROP FROM LAST YEAR . SO WHY IS IT DROPPING AND HOW ARE YOU FIXED ON THE SANCTIONS FRONT? AS WAS JUST MENTIONED, YOU USED A TOOL YOU HAVE A TOOL OF CREATION OF RECORD OF NONCOMPLIANCE AND AS I THINK YOU'VE SAID, YOU HAVEN'T DONE THAT YET.  I THINK THAT I WOULD RAISE THE URGENCY OF NOT DOING THAT AND NOT HIRING CONTRACTORS FOR HISTORY OF NON COMPLIANCE.  I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY THE MOST THE TWO MOST EFFECTIVE TOOLS ARE TELLING PEOPLE UP FRONT HOW TO BE SUCCESSFUL AND THEN THEY LOSE WORK IF THEY'RE NOT MORE THAN FINES IN MY SPARE SINCE SO AND THAT'S WHAT OTHER ENTITY THAT I KNOW THE RULES CAN BE DIFFERENT BUT HARVARD UNIVERSITY HAS A VERY GOOD COMPLIANCE HISTORY AND THEY THEY JUST DON'T GET WORK. THEY DON'T PLAY BALL IF THEY DON'T GET THE NUMBERS AND DO THE REPORTS AND MEET THE GOALS . ALL RIGHT. WELL THAT'S WHAT I WOULD SAY THERE. BUT SECOND POINT FURTHER INSTITUTIONALIZING THE BEST PRACTICES FINISHING THE JOB IS THE HOW TO ME WE WROTE ABOUT HOW TO DO THAT IS BASED ON 15 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE WITH $7.3 BILLION WORTH OF WORK THAT ARE MEETING ARE EXCEEDING THE GOALS ON STATE FUNDED PROJECTS INCLUDE SUBSIDY CITY BOSTON PROJECTS AND THEY'RE THEY'RE ALL PROJECTS USING THE BEST PRACTICES I KNOW A LOT OF FOLKS THEY'RE FAMILIAR WITH IT BUT JUST FURTHER INSTITUTIONALIZE THAT PUT IT UP ON THE WEBSITE, INCLUDE IT IN YOUR CONTRACT LANGUAGE, MAKE SURE STAFF PEOPLE ARE TRAINED ON IT AND ARE USING ALL THE COMPONENTS OF THE BEST PRACTICES JUST ONE SPECIFIC BEST PRACTICE OF INTERVENTION IS THAT CORE CREWS ARE NO LONGER AN EXCUSE.  THEY APPRECIATE CHRIS MENTIONING THAT CONTRACTORS WOULD SHOW UP WITH AN ALL WHITE MALE CONTRACTORS BASED OR CREW AND SAY OH THIS IS OUR CAR CREWS SINCE WE HIRE NOW YOU CAN'T YOU GOT TO DIVERSIFY OUR CREW. WE GOT TO SHOW UP FROM DAY ONE. I I WANT TO MENTION ALSO THAT THE ONE THING CHRIS BROWN MENTIONED THAT HE WANTS TO DO IS ALREADY DONE SO THE NORTHEAST CENTER FOR TRANSFORMATIVE EQUITY, WHICH IS PART OF BUILDING PATHWAYS HAS CREATED A LIVE WEBSITE PAGE THAT HAS A LIST OF ALL THE APPRENTICESHIPS IN THE STATE AND ALL OF THE PRE APPRENTICESHIPS IN THE STATE AND WHO'S UP AND WHEN YOU CAN FIND IT AT TINY THAT CC FORWARD SLASH TRADE GUIDE PLEASE PUT THAT ON YOUR WEBSITE IT'S ALREADY DONE WE RANK WE UPDATED IT REGULARLY TO MAKE SURE IT'S CURRENT WELL MENTIONED MAGGIE DWINA IS THE DIRECTOR OF COMPLIANCE FOR THE YARMOUTH BUILDING AUTHORITY. SHE'S REALLY BEEN DOING CUTTING EDGE WORK I THINK SHE WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO COME IN AND FIGURE OUT WHAT BEST PRACTICES THE AUTHORITY IS USING THAT MAYBE BJP COULD ADD TO THEIR MIX. I WOULD ALSO ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONSIDER HIRING MORE STAFF. I THINK THE QUALITY OF PROJECTS THAT EACH COMPLIANCE OFFICER IN THE CITY OF BOSTON HAS MAKES IT IMPOSSIBLE TO FULLY IMPLEMENT BEST PRACTICES PROJECT LABOR AGREEMENTS HAVE BEEN CRITICAL ESPECIALLY IF THEY INCLUDE LANGUAGE FOR ACCESS AND OPPORTUNITY COMMITTEES. THAT IS A COMMITTEE CHAIRED BY THE END USER THAT MEETS MONTHLY REVIEWS. THE DATA AND OTHER COMPLIANCE OFFICERS ARE DOING A LOT OF THAT WORK BUT WHAT WE FOUND IS WHEN IT'S PUBLIC THERE'S A LITTLE MORE PRESSURE THAT MAKES THE CONTRACTORS LITTLE MORE RECIPE RECEPTIVE TO MEETING THE GOALS AND THE ONLY PROJECT TO MY KNOWLEDGE THAT'S EVER MET ALL THREE GOALS IN THE CITY OF BOSTON UNDER THE PROTOTYPE WAS THE INTEGRATED SCIENCE COMPLEX UMASS BOSTON WHICH HAD A PROJECT LABOR AGREEMENT. IT REQUIRED OR CREATED THIS FRAMEWORK OF ACCESS AND OPPORTUNITY COMMITTEES.  IT ACHIEVED 10.5% WOMEN 35% PEOPLE OF COLOR AND 48% BOSTON RESIDENTS. SO IT'S A LITTLE BELOW THE 50% GOAL AT THE TIME BUT PRETTY DARN CLOSE.  AND IF YOU CAN'T DO ENOUGH TO START REALLY LOOKING INTO CREATING ACCESS AND OPPORTUNITY COMMITTEES AND THAT WOULD BE AN ADDED LAYER TO MORE WORK THAT'S NEEDING MORE STAFF, OUR RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT YOU CREATE REGIONAL ONES BECAUSE YOU CAN'T DO ONE FOR EVERY 100 AND SOME ODD PROJECTS THAT YOU'RE DOING. BUT WE FOUND THAT REGIONAL AGENCIES ACTUALLY CREATE A LITTLE COMPETITION IN BETWEEN THE SEAMS. THEY DON'T LOOK BAD IN FRONT OF THEIR COMPETITORS AND THAT HELPS THE COMPLIANCE OFFICER DO SOME OF THEIR WORK AT AOC MEETINGS WE DO REALLY PRAGMATIC ANALYSIS SO JUST TWO EXAMPLES WE DO A HIP ANALYSIS HIGH IMPACT POOR PERFORMER WHO'S A SUBCONTRACTOR THAT HAS A LOT OF HOURS HOW ARE THEY DOING?  WHAT'S THEIR PLAN? DO THEY SHOW UP WITH A DIVERSE CORE CREW? WHAT ARE THEIR NUMBERS EARLY ON? WHAT'S THEIR WORKFORCE PROJECTION? YOU CAN'T MEET THE GOALS WITHOUT THE BIG DOGS GETTING THEIR NUMBERS SO THAT HIP ANALYSIS IS THE KEY PART AND THEN ANOTHER PIECE OF ANALYSIS AND THERE'S MANY OTHERS BUT IT'S COMPARING THE CURRENT MONTH TO PROJECT TO DATE THE CURRENT MONTHS NUMBERS ARE BELOW PROJECT TO DATE EITHER THEY'VE LAID OFF WOMEN AND PEOPLE OF COLOR OR HIRED OR NON-DIVERSE WORKERS AND WE SHOULD KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING ON THERE. WHY DID IT HAPPEN? WHY ARE THEIR NUMBERS GOING DOWN? TRENDS PI IN MY LAST POINT TIM MENTIONED THE NEED TO ADD TO THE BUILDING THE PRE APPRENTICESHIP ON THE SUPPLY SIDE MODEL RE APPRENTICESHIP THAT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT BUT AS SHE SAID IT'S LOW NUMBERS IT'S SOMEWHAT EXPENSIVE TO RUN BUT IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE WHO NEED THAT EXTRA CONTACT AND DEVELOPMENT AND EXTRA CERTIFICATIONS. WE'VE CREATED SOMETHING CALLED BUILD ALIVE MAYORGA WITH FUNDING FROM THE MASS GAMING COMMISSION ORIGINALLY WE WANT TO BRING EVIDENCE THAT IT'S NOT UBER. THE IDEA THAT'S DIRECTING YOU WHERE TO GO THAT THE PRE APPRENTICESHIP WILL TAKE YOU IF YOU NEED THE RIDE YOUR APPRENTICESHIP REALLY IMPORTANT BUT THE PIPELINE MODEL OF THE SITE OF HERE'S WHERE YOU GO HERE'S WHEN TO APPLY HAS BEEN REALLY IMPORTANT OUR BUILD THE LIFE FRAMEWORK WHICH IS ALSO A PROJECT FOR BUILDING PATHWAYS TO BUILD PATHWAYS IS TRYING TO EXPAND TOOLS TO FOUR OR FIVE YEARS IT'S BEEN AROUND WE'VE ENGAGED WITH 3274 CAREER SEEKERS. WE DO A SHORT SURVEY TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE ELIGIBLE BASIC ELIGIBILITY QUESTIONS ARE APPRENTICESHIP 935 HAVE BEEN ELIGIBLE.  WE SEND THEM A LIST OF RESOURCES TO BECOME ELIGIBLE IF THEY'RE NOT 287 AND REPORTED TO US THAT THEY APPLIED FOR A CAREER AS AN APPRENTICE OR STARTING AS AN APPRENTICE AND THEN 139 WOMEN HAVE STARTED WORK. SO THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT PIPELINE TO BUILD A LIFE IS REALLY IMPORTANT IN ADDITION TO THE PRE APPRENTICESHIPS THE TWO TOGETHER I THINK COVER THE NEEDS OF SOME WORKERS WHO NEED A LITTLE MORE ENGAGEMENT AND SOME WORKERS WHO JUST KNOW WHAT TRADE THEY WANT READY TO GO SO I COULD SEE A LOT MORE OF WHAT I'VE DONE OVER TIME SO I'LL STOP HERE BUT HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS EITHER TODAY OR AFTER TODAY. THANK YOU.  OKAY, THANK YOU. LIZ PRISCILLA.  GOOD MORNING. CAN YOU HEAR ME ? I CAN. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING.  THANK YOU FOR HAVING THIS HEARING. MY NAME IS PRISCILLA FLYNN.  I'M THE FOUNDER AND EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE MARCUS ANTHONY HALL EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTE.  I'M THE PRESIDENT AND CEO OF FLYNN AND ASSOCIATES.  I SERVE ON THE BOSTON EMPLOYMENT COMMISSION AS A COMMISSIONER AND I AM THE FOUNDER OF THE BOSTON CITY HALL OF MINISTRY. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR JIM HERE FOR HELPING ME BRING THIS PRAYER MINISTRY BACK TO THE HALL. I STARTED ATTENDING MONTHLY MEETINGS IN 2012 WHEN THE BRUCE BOWL AND BUILDING WAS BEING BUILT. I BECAME A COMMUNITY MANAGER MONITORING CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS IN THE ROXBURY AREA. I WORKED ALONG CHUCK TURNER IN THE BOSTON JOBS COALITION. TOGETHER WE CREATED THE ECONOMIC JUSTICE COMMISSION WHICH AS YOU KNOW HAS A HEARING TWICE A MONTH IN APRIL AND OCTOBER . WE FOUGHT FOR AND WON THE GOOD JOBS STANDARDS WHICH ARE IN AND INTRODUCED IN ALL THE DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS BEEN IMPLEMENTED IN SINCE JANUARY 2017 WHEN A NEW ORDINANCE WENT INTO EFFECT. I'M GIVING YOU THIS HISTORY BECAUSE NONE OF YOU ON THE COUNCIL WAS HERE WHEN I STARTED THE JOURNEY OF MONITORING THESE CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS THAT ARE STILL OUT OF COMPLIANCE AND CONTINUING TO MAKE NO REAL EFFORT TO EXECUTE THIS PLAN THAT COULD CHANGE SO MANY LIVES IN BOSTON'S BY HEART COMMUNITIES. WE SAW THE HISTORY THAT CHRIS GAVE US.  WE PROTEST SEVERAL DEVELOPMENTS IN THE CITY TO GET THE NEW ORDINANCE AND THE GOOD JOBS SINCE WE PURCHASED IT TO BOOST BALL AND BUILDING. THEN WE WENT TO 225 CENTER STREET IN JAMAICA PLAIN EAST BOSTON AT THE AIRPORT. WE HELPED THE AIRPORT WORKERS GET UNIONIZED IN PROTEST TO THE INC BLOCK IN CHINATOWN. THE OLD PILINGS BUILDING WHEN THEY WERE BUILDING THE SKYSCRAPER THAT IS THERE NOW. WE ALSO HAD THE PROTEST THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE NEW TROPICAL FOODS THAT IS IN NUBIAN SQUARE. I HAVE BEEN AN ADVOCATE FOR BOSTON RESIDENTS BLACK AND BIPOC COMMUNITIES AND WOMEN SINCE I RETIRED FROM THE CITY OF BOSTON'S TREASURY DEPARTMENT RUN ON THE PAYROLL IN 2010. I STILL DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY I HAVE TO CONTINUOUSLY RIDE UP AND DOWN THE STREETS OF BOSTON AND SEE LITTLE OR NO PEOPLE THAT LOOK LIKE ME OR WHO ARE NOT BOSTON RESIDENTS OR WOMEN. I HAVE SEEN IMPROVEMENT BUT NOT NEARLY ENOUGH FOR THESE SAME DEVELOPERS AND CONTRACT TO CONTINUE TO COME TO THE BACK MEDIANS MONTH AFTER MONTH OUT OF COMPLIANCE WITHOUT MAKING ANY REAL GOOD FAITH EFFORTS TO MEET THESE STANDARDS IS DEEPLY DISTURBING AND FRUSTRATED.  I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN THIS CITY AND IT HAS NOT BEEN EASY FOR ME BUT I STAY IN THIS FIGHT BECAUSE NO ONE HAS THE COURAGE TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT AND DENY DEVELOPERS THAT THEY ARE OUT OF COMPLIANCE.  THERE ARE WAYS THAT DEVELOPERS CAN BE HELD MORE ACCOUNTABLE.  WE NEED TO UP THE FINES FROM $300 PER DAY PER TREE TO 1500 DOLLARS PER DAY PER TREE CREATE A MONITORING DEPARTMENT OF YOUNG ADULTS WILL BE AN AGE OUT OF FOSTER CARE AND GIVE THEM JOBS MONEY IN SOME OF THESE PROJECTS. THERE ARE SEVERAL WAYS DEVELOPERS AND CONTRACTORS CAN BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE. THE QUESTION IS ARE YOU WILLING TO STEP UP AND WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY IN ADDRESSING THESE ISSUES?  WHEN YOU GO TO NEW WELLESLEY OR EVEN BROOKLINE, HOW MANY BLACK CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES OR WORKERS DO YOU SEE? WE CONTINUE TO ALLOW BAD ACTORS TO GET AWAY WITH NON-COMPLIANT . YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONITORS AND YOU KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH. THE THERE ARE WAYS THE JOB SITES CAN BE MONITORED. WE USED TO DO MONITOR IN THE ROXBURY WHEN CHUCK TURNER GOD REST HIS SOUL TITO JACKSON AND KIM JANEY WERE DISTRICT SEVEN CITY COUNCILORS. THERE WERE NINE DISTRICTS IN THE CITY.  WE COULD HAVE NINE COMMUNITY MANAGEMENT COMMITTEES AND YOU COULD HAVE THE U.S. ACTUALLY AT SOME OF THESE SITES THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF CONSTRUCTIONS JOBS GOING ON IN THE CITY AND YET WE ARE NOT GETTING OUR FAIR SHARE . IF WE REALLY WANT COMPLIANCE WE HAVE TO CREATE A MODEL THAT WORKS THAT WE CAN DO IT. THE UNIONS ARE A PROBLEM. YOU KNOW, THEN YOU KNOW, WHY ARE THE FUNDS GOING INTO THE GENERAL THE GENERAL COFFERS OF THE CITY? WHY CAN'T THEY BE PUT ASIDE TO GO TO MONEY FOR SOME OF THESE APPRENTICE PROGRAMS THAT YOU THAT YOU ALL KEEP CREATING? YEAH.  YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT A COMPANY OR A TRAIN THAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR THAT'S DOING THIS WORK. THE PEOPLE'S ACADEMY.  THEY'VE BEEN DOING THIS WORK FOR A LONG, LONG TIME. THEY EVEN HAVE LAND. THEY JUST HAVE TO GET IT BUILT. IS IT SEA?  MY THING IS WE AS A BOSTON RESIDENTS, PEOPLE OF COLOR AND FEMALES WE HAVE BEEN DENIED REALLY TRUE ACCESS TO THESE GOOD PAYING JOBS. AND I JUST FOUND OUT RECENTLY THAT 80% OF OUR YOUNG PEOPLE WHO ARE INCARCERATED COME FROM OUT OF THE FOSTER CARE SYSTEM. SO WHEN A CHILD OH, BECAUSE THAT'S A CHILD WAITING IS PUT OUT OF THE FOSTER CARE SYSTEM, THEY GET NOTHING. WHY CAN'T THERE BE SOME PROGRAMS TO HELP THEM? YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT WE HAVE THESE LARGE CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES THAT HAVE OODLES AND OODLES OF MONEY. WHY CAN'T THEY BUILD A REALLY GOOD CONSTRUCTION UNION OR NONUNION FACILITY TO TRAIN THE PEOPLE? WE HAVE MADISON PARK ABOUT ARE WE REALLY UTILIZING THAT FOR WHAT IT COULD BE UTILIZED?  IT'S A SCHOOL. WHY CAN'T THEY DO NIGHT CRAFT?  AND SO I JUST BASICALLY YOU KNOW AND I HEARD ALL THE DATA I'VE SEEN THE DATA BUT I TRULY BELIEVE A BETTER ETHICAL BE MADE TO GET MORE PEOPLE OF COLOR BLACK PEOPLE, BROWN PEOPLE, FEMALES AND PEOPLE OF COLOR ON THESE JOBS. YEAH, WE SEE AN UPTICK IN THE PEOPLE OF COLOR BECAUSE THEY'RE COMING FROM OTHER OTHER THE CITY OF BOSTON THOUGH THE FIGURES THAT WE JUST SEE WITH THE BOSTON WITH THAT CHRIS BROWN GAVE DAVIS FROM 89 TO 2023 AND NEVER BEEN IN COMPLIANCE WITH BOSTON RESIDENTS NEVER BEEN IN COMPLIANCE WITH WITH FEMALES. SO THERE NEEDS TO BE AN IDEA FROM WAY OF DOING THIS AND IT CAN BE DONE. YOU ALL JUST HAVE TO WILL WE HAVE TO DO IT? THANK YOU.  THANK YOU, PRISCILLA.  WE WERE WAITING TO BE JOINED BY RENEE JOSHUA FROM IBEW 103. I DO NOT SEE RENEE ON.  I GUESS I'LL OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS IF JOINS US. SHE CAN MAKE A STATEMENT.  SO I'LL UP TO QUESTIONS. SO MADAM PRESIDENT LOUIJEUNE FEELS.  YES. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. AND I WANT TO THANK LIZ AND PRISCILLA FOR THEIR TESTIMONY. I WANT TO FIRST VOTE FOR THEIR PRESENTATION.  PRISCILLA, I YOU DID HAVE YOUR HAND UP WHEN I ASKED THE QUESTION EARLIER TO THE TEAM ABOUT MADISON PARK.  I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANTED TO ADDRESS FOR LIKE YOU KNOW, WE ARE INVESTING IN RENOVATIONS AROUND MADISON PARK, A SCHOOL THAT IS OUR MODEL FOR VOTING THAT HAS BEEN DEEPLY UNDERINVESTED IN AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO ADD THEN I DID SEE YOUR HAND UP SO IT WAS AROUND I THINK IT MAY HAVE BEEN LIKE AROUND THE UNIONS LIKE I REALLY FEEL LIKE THE UNIONS SOME OF THE UNIONS ARE DOING GOOD AND ARE DOING BETTER BUT THERE'S STILL A LOT OF THE UNIONS ESPECIALLY TRADE UNIONS THAT ARE NOT WELL THEY DON'T HAVE NO QUARTER OR ANYTHING. THEY BASICALLY THEY DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO. AND SO HOW DO WE GIVE THAT TO THE UNIONS TO PARTNER WITH THE CITY TO GET MORE OF OUR CHILDREN AND OUR YOUTH INTO THESE TRADES? MM HMM. AND SO AND LIKE I SAID ABOUT MAN CITY PARK IS A SCHOOL 24 HOUR THANK YOU. IT CAN BE A NEED 24 HOURS BEING TRAIN THINGS. YEAH. YEAH, I THINK SO. WHEN I KNOW WHEN I DO GO TO MASS PARK I DO SEE A LOT OF SIGN THAT THE BANNERS OF THE UNIONS THAT I WORK WITH IN MADISON PARK AND DEFINITELY WANT TO SEE MORE OF THAT GROW AS WE SORT OF WE LOOK AT WHAT THE INVESTMENTS IN MADISON PARK LOOK LIKE. MADAM PRESIDENT, SORRY WE WERE JUST WE HAVE BEEN JOINED BY RENEE JOSHUA. I'M FINE.  IF YOU WANT TO ASK SOME MORE QUESTIONS YOU CAN GO AHEAD IF YOU WANT TO. WE COULD HEAR FROM MS..  DOZIER AND COME BACK TO YOU. IT'S IT'S IT'S UP TO YOU.  LET'S HEAR FROM. I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION WHERE WE CAN HEAR FROM MRS. DOZIER AND THEN COME BACK TO ME AND I'LL GO ON MUTE AND THEN I'LL COME BACK IN TO ASK MY QUESTION . OKAY. YEAH. RENEE, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US . WE HEARD FROM OTHER TWO PANELISTS. FROM THE ADVOCATES AND WE'VE HEARD FROM THE ADMINISTRATION THAT IF YOU WANT A COUPLE OF MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL . YES. GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. THANK YOU SO INVITING WITH THE AFTERNOON. THANK YOU FOR INVITING ME TO THIS. I'M GRATEFUL TO BE HERE IN WORK WITH EVERYBODY.  I APOLOGIZE FOR BEING LATE. I'M JUST GOING TO LISTEN IN. WHATEVER IT IS I NEED TO DO, I'LL DO SO I'M JUST GOING TO LISTEN THE YEAH.  THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. I GUESS SO WE'RE WE'RE HAVING QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCILORS OF BACK TO YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT AND THEN COUNCILOR MEJIA WHO ARE ON DECK.  THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. AND THANK YOU, RENEE FOR FOR JOINING US. MY QUESTION, LIZ, YOU IN YOUR PRESENTATION YOU TALKED ABOUT THE BENEFITS OF PLAYS WHICH CAN REALLY PROVIDE THE STAGE TO HELP US GET THE DIVERSE WORKFORCE TO MAKE SURE THAT FOLKS ARE BEING PAID THE PREVAILING WAGE. I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT. BUT YOU ALSO TALKED ABOUT THE ROLE OF PUBLIC PRESSURE AND PUTTING CONTRACTS, PUTTING SOME OF SOME PRESSURE ON THE GENERAL CONTRACTORS. I'D LOVE FOR YOU TO TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT THAT PUBLIC PRESSURE LOOKS LIKE AND I KNOW THAT YOU I DIDN'T KNOW THAT ABOUT THE UMASS BOSTON PROJECT. I THINK THAT'S GREAT AND I KNOW THAT THE TRADES WERE MADE ABOUT THE BOTTOM UNIT TRADE SYSTEM. I KNOW THAT THE GOAL IS WAS FOR US TO HIT 20% FOR WOMEN IN THE TRADES BY 2020 AND SO I KNOW THAT THAT HAS COME IN THAT I WOULD LOVE TO ALSO HEAR WHAT STRIDES YOU THINK FOLKS ARE MAKING. I KNOW THAT A CENTRAL PART OF THIS TOO AND I THINK THE TRADES HAVE BEEN TRYING TO DO THIS IS EMPHASIZE THE ROLE OF PROVIDING CHILDCARE TO OUR WORKERS AND HOW THAT WILL HELP. SO IF YOU WANTED TO EXPAND ON THAT BUT WANTED TO TO SEND THAT YOUR WAY TO YOU, RENEE AND WHO ELSE WHOEVER WANTED TO TO CHIME IN. SO THANK YOU.  AND THEN THAT RUNS THE ENTIRE LEGACY AND I'LL JUST HIT THE CHILDCARE THING FIRST. CONSTRUCTION. SO IN ADDITION TO ALL THE PROBLEMS WITH CHILDCARE THAT EVERY OTHER WORKER WHO HAS LIKE IT'S NOT ENOUGH OF IT AND IT'S TOO EXPENSIVE IF YOU WORK IN CONSTRUCTION THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL PROBLEM WHICH IS YET TO DROP YOUR KID OFF AT FIVE IN THE MORNING AND THERE'S NO CHILDCARE TO OPEN AT FIVE IN THE MORNING OR BETTER. SO WE'VE CREATED A PILOT PROGRAM CALLED CARE THAT WORKS WHICH CAN BE FOUND A KIND OF WORK STORY TO TRY TO MATCH FOLKS WHO NEED CONSTRUCTION HOUR CHILDCARE WITH BOTH LICENSED HOME BASED PROVIDERS WHO ARE WILLING TO OPEN THAT EARLY AND I THINK WE NOW HAVE ONE CHILDCARE CENTER IN MATTAPAN IN ADDITION TO THE HUB BASED PROVIDERS. SO THAT IS A HUGE OBSTACLE AND ACTUALLY THE FIRST APPRENTICE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS PILOT I WAS A YOUNG BLACK MAN MAN WHO'S A SINGLE THAT I THINK WAS AN ELECTRICIAN WHENEVER THEY HAVE MEMBERS. SO I REALLY SPEAK LIKE EVEN THOUGH CHILDCARE IS ASSOCIATED WITH WOMEN AND PEOPLE'S MINDS AND IT AFFECTS EVERYBODY ABSOLUTELY EVERYBODY COHEN TAUGHT US AND I THINK IT'S THAT SO THEN BACK TO THE PUBLIC PRESSURE QUESTION WHAT SO THE HISTORY HERE IS IN 2008 GOVERNOR DEVAL PATRICK SIGNED A PROJECT LABOR AGREEMENT FOR THE UMASS BOSTON A WHOLE SERIES OF PROJECTS REALLY OVER 20 YEARS HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS,  PROBABLY 20 PROJECTS AND IN THAT PROJECT LABOR AGREEMENT HE INCLUDED LANGUAGE ESTABLISHING AN ACCESS AND OPPORTUNITY COMMITTEE AND THE COMMITTEE WOULD BE PUBLIC. IT WOULD BE CHAIRED BY THE END USER, IT WOULD MEET MONTHLY, IT WOULD WORK, THE CONTRACTORS WOULD REPORT IN THEIR NUMBERS AND THEN THERE WOULD BE PROBLEM SOLVING. SO I WILL TELL YOU THE VERY FIRST YEAR OF THAT MEETING IN 28 THERE WAS ENDLESS YELLING BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, SORT OF LABOR AND COMMUNITY ON ONE SIDE AND THE STATE AGENCY THAT WAS BUILDING THAT FIRST PROJECT ON THE SIDE. AND TO SOME DEGREE I FELT THEIR PAIN. THEY WERE IT'S ALREADY DIFFICULT TO BUILD THINGS AND WE'RE ADDING THIS WHOLE OTHER LAYER NEVER MIND IT WAS THE LAW AND I'VE BEEN THE LAW ALL THE ONE THAT THEY'VE BEEN IGNORING. BUT IT WAS YOU KNOW, I DO RECOGNIZE THE ADDING WORK TO THEIR DAC AFTER ABOUT A YEAR WE SORT OF CAME TO A GRUDGING RESPECT MUTUAL RESPECT AND THAT FIRST PROJECT AS I SAID IF YOU CAN WITHIN 2% ON IT RATHER THAN THIS GOAL AND MET ALL THREE GOALS AND CERTAINLY THE FIRST AND MAYBE NOT ONLY PROJECT TO MEET THE GOALS FOR WOMEN BUT THERE'S NOT A LOT OF PROJECTS THAT HAVE MET THE GOALS FOR WOMEN.  SO WHAT HAPPENS AT THOSE MEETINGS AS THE REPORT IS PRESENTED LABORS IN THE ROOM IF THAT'S RELEVANT BECAUSE WE'VE EXPANDED THIS ACROSS THE STATE TO NON PLAY COVERED PROJECTS ACCESS APPROVED MANY COMMUNITY GROUPS ARE IN THE ROOM WE BRING TRANS WOMEN TO THE ROOM YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH WOMEN PLUMBERS WHICH OF THESE THREE YOU WANT TO HIRE? WHEN DO YOU WANT TO JUST START LIKE GET IT BRING IT? YOU KNOW THERE'S A LONG HISTORY OF CONTRACT SAYING WELL I COULDN'T FIND ANYBODY OR I CALLED THE UNION, I DIDN'T HAVE ANYBODY. AND THEN YOU ASK THE BUSINESS AND THEY NEVER GOT A CALL OR AN EMAIL OR A REQUEST. SO BY BRINGING EVERYBODY INTO THE SAME ROOM IT'S JUST SHORTCUTS ALL THAT BALONEY AND LET'S YOU KNOW, BRINGS THE SOLUTION INTO THE ROOM WHETHER THAT SO WE JUST BROUGHT IN FIVE NEW WOMEN APPRENTICES AND THEN THE CARPENTER OR SOMETHING LIKE PRISCILLA SAYS WE JUST GRADUATED A BUNCH OF FOLKS FROM OUR PRE APPRENTICESHIP YOU KNOW WHO WHO CAN PUT THEM TO WORK AND WE'VE HAD SOME ACCESS AND OPPORTUNITY COMMITTEES SO WE'VE HAD BEST PRACTICES ON ABOUT 38 PROJECTS OVER THE LAST 15 YEARS WORTH $7.3 BILLION. AND JUST ON THOSE PRACTICES A LOT OF TALK ABOUT ECONOMIC IMPACT THE DELTA BETWEEN THAT 4.4% NATIONAL AVERAGE AND OUR 7.3% WOMEN ON THOSE PROJECTS WE DID THE MATH BY OURS IN A ROUGH UNION RATE IT'S 37 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS WENT TO WOMEN AND A LITTLE OVER HALF OF THAT TO WOMEN OF COLOR ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT YOU KIND OF PREDICTED WITH THE NATIONAL AVERAGE.  NOW I'M NOT AN ECONOMIST SO THAT'S BACK OF THE ENVELOPE NUMBERS BUT THAT'S 37 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS IS A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER. SO WE'VE HAD ONE OR TWO ACCESS AND OPPORTUNITY COMMITTEES THAT WERE SINGLE PROJECT COMMITTEES AND THEY HAVE NOT TENDED TO DO AS WELL.  SO WE BELIEVE THAT THE SPECTER OF , YOU KNOW, SUMMER CONSTRUCTION AND NOT LOOKING GOOD IN FRONT OF A SHOT CONSTRUCTION OR WHOEVER HELPS INCENTIVIZE THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE REPORTING IN A PUBLIC WAY ON A MONTHLY BASIS AND IN THE BACK HAS DONE IMPORTANT WORK BUT IT'S JUST HAMSTRUNG BY THE QUALITY OF JOBS YOU'RE TRYING TO COVER . AND YOU KNOW, IT'S THAT MONTH TO MONTH PROBLEM SOLVING THAT THESE ACCESS AND OPPORTUNITY COMMITTEES MAKE WORK. AND SO AGAIN MY RECOMMENDATION AND IT WOULD REQUIRE MORE STAFF IS THAT THE CITY OF BOSTON FIGURE OUT SOME WAY AND IT COULD BE BY THE CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT I DON'T KNOW BUT ESTABLISH REGIONAL ACCESS AND OPPORTUNITY COMMITTEES WHICH WOULD SORT OF BE A LAYER BEFORE THE BACK COMMISSION BECAUSE THEN THAT PUBLIC WORK HAPPENS, THE COMMUNITY IS BROUGHT IN ITS MONTHLY WHEN THINGS CAN BE DONE THAT A SUBCONTRACTOR COULD COME AND GO FROM A JOB SITE IN A IN LESS THAN A MONTH. SO YOU CAN'T HAVE JUST MAYBE ONCE A YEAR REVIEWS TO MOVE THIS STUFF BUT IT'S NOT AS EFFECTIVE TO HAVE DONE SOMETHING BUT LIZ, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I HEAR YOU'RE THESE ARE GREAT ANSWERS. I JUST I WANT TO GIVE THE OTHER COUNCILORS SOME OPPORTUNITY.  MADAM PRESIDENT, I THINK YOU'RE FIRED. YOUR 5 MINUTES ARE UP. I I'LL JUST ADD QUICKLY THAT WE DID LOOK INTO THAT. I THINK LIZ HAD MENTIONED THAT YOU DON'T GET WORK IF YOU DON'T PLAY BALL AND WE'VE LOOKED INTO THAT SO I'D LIKE US TO CONTINUE. THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO ADD. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO WE HAVE BEEN JOINED BY COUNCILOR ERIN MURPHY. COUNCILOR MAGEE, YOU'RE UP NEXT FOLLOWED BY COUNCILOR FLYNN AND CO-CHAIR HELLO LIZ AND HELLO RENEE AND PRISCILLA.  HAPPY THAT YOU ALL ARE HERE CONTRIBUTING TO THE CONVERSATION AND I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW THINGS. ONE IS OUR OFFICE WORKED AFTER MEETING WITH RENE IN 2021 I BELIEVE IT WAS LOCAL ONE OR THREE REALLY HELPED ME UNDERSTAND THE SIGNIFICANT BARRIERS THAT A LOT OF WOMEN IN PARTICULAR WHO WERE TRYING TO ENTER THE TRADES WERE EXPERIENCING SPECIFICALLY SINGLE MOMS.  AND THROUGH THAT CONVERSATION AND THROUGH THAT WORK OUR OFFICE CHAMPIONED AND SUCCESSFULLY SECURED THE FUNDING FOR THE CARE THAT WORKS PROGRAM WITH $1,000,000 TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THIRD SHIFT WORK. YOU KNOW, NONTRADITIONAL HOURS. AND SO WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO MAKING SURE THAT THAT PILOT AND THAT WE'RE ABLE TO YOU KNOW THAT SOMETHING THAT'S SUSTAINABLE SOME OF THAT FUNDING WAS THROUGH OUR YOU KNOW, FUNDING.  AND SO I THINK THAT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO FORMALIZE SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO HELP SUSTAIN IT BECAUSE THIS IS THE PROBLEM THAT I SEE IS THAT WE CREATE THINGS AND WE LOOK TO SEE BUT THEN WE DON'T LOOK AT THE LONG GAME AND I THINK THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT FRUSTRATES ME THE MOST ABOUT THESE HEARINGS IS THAT I KEEP COMING BACK AND I FEEL LIKE IT'S GROUNDHOG DAY AND I'VE ONLY BEEN IN THIS OFFICE FOR YOU KNOW, THIS IS MY THIRD TERM FOURTH YEAR AND I ASK THE SAME QUESTIONS EVERY YEAR I REVIEW THE SAME DATA. RIGHT. AND I SEE DRIP DRIP CHANGE AND I CAN SHARE PRISCILLA'S FRUSTRATION RIGHT THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I ASKED HER TO JOIN US IN THIS HEARING TODAY BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE TIRED OF HEARING THE SAME THING AND EXPECTING DIFFERENT RESULTS AND I THINK THAT WE NOW AND THIS IS THE QUESTION THAT I WAS GOING TO ASK THAT I WANT TO BRING TO YOU ALL BECAUSE WHO KNOWS BETTER THAN WHAT WHAT WE NEED AND THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ACTUALLY DOING THE WORK THAT ALL OF THESE YOU KNOW, FOLKS WITH BIG DEGREES AND PEDIGREES.  AND SO I'M CURIOUS I'M JUST LIKE KEEPING IT 100% REAL RIGHT NOW. THIS ORDINANCE WHICH IS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I WAS GOING TO ASK. I THINK IT'S TIME FOR A MAKEOVER. I THINK THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TODAY IF WE'RE REALLY SERIOUS ABOUT WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT TO REVISE AND UPDATE THE ORDINANCE TO MEET THE MOMENT THAT WE'RE IN SO TO THAT END I'D LOVE TO UTILIZE MY TIME TO HEAR FROM FOLKS ARE ON THE GROUND DOING THIS WORK WHAT AMENDMENTS SHOULD WE BE CONSIDERING? WHAT ARE SOME OF THE WHAT WHERE ARE SOME OF THE AREAS THAT WE CAN IMPROVE BECAUSE WHAT'S THE SENSE OF HOLDING THESE HEARINGS AND EXPECTING DIFFERENT RESULTS? WE ONLY DO THIS TWICE A YEAR AND IT'S THE SAME THING AND NO ONE HAS TIME TO WASTE AND WE HAVE PEOPLE WOMEN AND PEOPLE OF COLOR WHO ARE WELL PREPARED BUT WE KEEP HEARING NO TALENT AND YOU EXPORTING PEOPLE FROM THE OUTSIDE TO COME WORK HERE IN THE CITY OF BOSTON. SO I'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU ALL WHAT CHANGES CAN WE MAKE TODAY THROUGH YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE ORDINANCE?  YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE DIFFERENTLY IF YOU I REALLY FOR ME MYSELF PERSONALLY I WOULD LIKE FOR THE UNIONS TO BE BROUGHT TO THE TABLE SOME WAY SOMEHOW SOME OF THESE UNIONS THAT ARE NOT IN COMPLIANCE THAT DON'T EVEN CARE ABOUT BEING IN COMPLIANCE THERE NEEDS TO BE A WAY THAT WE CAN SAY LISTEN, YOU ARE THE UNIONS, YOU ARE THE ONES THAT DO A LOT OF THE TRAINING IF THEY DON'T WANT TO TRAIN THAT'S FINE BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN IN THE CONSTRUCTION FIELD FOR OVER 30 YEARS AND STILL CANNOT GET A GOOD JOB,  STILL CANNOT GET INTO THE UNION. SOME OF THEM DON'T EVEN WANT TO BE IN THE UNION ANYMORE. BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THE UNION THIS A UNION TOWN WE ALL KNOW THAT LOOK AT ALL THIS CONSTRUCTION AND STUFF.  LOOK HOW THEY BUILT UP THE SEAPORT AND STUFF. LOOK WHAT ALL THIS SIDEWALK STUFF AND ALL THESE BIKE LANES THAT KEEP POURING DOWN EVERY DAY AND GETTING BE PUT BACK UP. THE PROBLEM AND THE ISSUE IS THAT SOME OF IT IS THE UNIONS,  THE DEVELOPERS, THE CONTRACTORS THEY HAVE CONSTRUCTION SITE RIGHT THEY HAVE CLOCKWORK CORRUPTION ACTION MEETINGS I THINK THAT'S A WASTE OF TIME BECAUSE THOUGH NOTHING HAPPENED AT THE MEETING THEN THEY THEY THEY THEY CONTINUE AND CONTINUE TO GET A SLAP ON THE WRIST BECAUSE THEY SAY THAT THEY CANNOT ENFORCE PEOPLE BY NUMBERS OF PEOPLE BY COLOR BUT THERE HAS TO BE SOME WAY SO WE HAVE A BRAND NEW CITY COUNCIL NOW A BRAND NEW CITY COUNCIL WHY WE FORCE THE UNIONS TO THE TABLE AND THE DEVELOPERS TO RAISE AND RAISE UP SOME SOME FEES AND SOME FINES $300 A DAY PORTRAYED AS A JOKE. THEY LAUGH AT THEM SO I WANT TO NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT LOCAL ONE OR THREE HAS BEEN ONE OF THE MOST AGGRESSIVE PARTNERS IN TRYING TO INCREASE DIVERSITY. IN FACT THEY WORK WITH COMMUNITY MENTORING TEAM I'M RUN FROM WITH BILL AND THEY HAD A STRONG PARTNERSHIP IN TRYING TO INCREASE SO I WANT TO GIVE IT UP TO LOCAL ONE OR THREE BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M COMMITTED TO IS MAKING SURE THAT I'M UPLIFTING THOSE GOOD ACTORS AND THEN I'M CREATING OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE ONES WHO I USE LOCAL 103 AS THE SHINING EXAMPLE OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. AND I THINK RENE NOT BECAUSE YOU HAPPEN TO BE HERE RIGHT NOW BUT EVERYWHERE THAT I GO I ALWAYS TALK ABOUT HOW INTENTIONAL OR LOCAL 123 IS. SO CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME OF YOUR PRACTICE BECAUSE I THINK THAT IF WE CAN WE CAN HEAR A LITTLE BIT FROM HOW YOU ALL ARE WORKING TO INCREASE YOUR DIVERSITY.  THERE'S SOMETHING FOR US TO THEN FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN HOLD OTHER UNIONS TO THAT SAME STANDARD. THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT. I WOULD SAY THAT WE ARE SO COMMUNITY DRIVEN. WE WANT TO LOOK LIKE THE COMMUNITY THAT WE SERVE. SO LET'S JUST BE CLEAR.  LOCAL 103 OUR JURISDICTION IS FROM THE BORDER OF NEW HAMPSHIRE TO THE BORDER OF RHODE ISLAND, RIGHT? SO WE HAVE COMPANIES THAT SERVE AS THOSE AREAS SO WE WOULD HAVE A COMPANY THAT WORKS FOR I DON'T KNOW THEY CALL MASS ELECTRIC. I WORK FOR THEM AND THEY'RE ON A CGF WHITE, THEY'RE OUT OF FRAMINGHAM AND THEY HAVE THEIR CORE FOLKS AND THEY TAKE THEM WHEREVER THEY GO, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? SO IF THEY WORK IN IN BOSTON OR IF THEY'RE WORKING IN AT AT GILLETTE YOU KNOW SO IT'S NOT JUST BOSTON IT'S THAT THAT'S OUR JURISDICTION SO THAT THAT I THINK IS AN ISSUE TOO RIGHT.  BUT ANYWAY BACK TO JUST WE ARE HERE I'VE BEEN A MEMBER FOR 23 YEARS MY FATHER WAS A MEMBER AND IT'S NOT HAS NOT ALWAYS BEEN EASY IT'S NOT EASY NOW BUT BEING PRESENT AND LIKE YOU SOMEONE ELSE MENTIONED MADISON PARK WE HAVE TEACHERS THAT ARE IN MADISON PARK LIKE WE HAVE TO BE MORE PRESENT IN THE COMMUNITY THAT WE SERVE. SO THAT'S AND I THINK THAT THE OTHER UNIONS ARE PICKING UP BUT I DO SEE I SEE I SEE I SEE GROWTH I SEE PROGRESS WITH THEM. ARE THEY WHERE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE WHERE THEY NEED TO BE? THEY COULD BE DOING A LITTLE BETTER BUT I DO SEE PROGRESS BUT ACTIVELY JUST GOING OUT IN THE COMMUNITY DOING FOOD BANKS AND MORE WOMEN IN THE TRADES I THINK IS BRINGING IS SOMETHING ABOUT US BEING WOMEN WE DO THE WORK, WE BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER, WE BRIDGE THE GAPS AND THAT'S I THINK IS WHAT WITH GROWING THE UNIONS QUITE HONESTLY THE LABOR UNIONS MORE OF US WOMEN AND MORE ABOUT EQUAL COLOR ARE WOULD JUST BRIDGE THE COMMUNITIES IN MORE AND I HATE THIS STATE ALL THIS YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING WE REALLY THERE'S A WHOLE OF THIS AND THAT'S NOT GETTING US ANYWHERE YOU KNOW WE NEED TO SIT DOWN AND SAY LOOK AT WHAT CAN WE DO TO SERVE EACH OTHER? HOW CAN WE BE A MORE UNIQUE COMMUNITY WITH EACH OTHER? ALL THAT IS NOT WORKING. IT HASN'T WORKED. IT DOESN'T WORK IT DOESN'T WORK IN THE UNIONS DOESN'T WORK IN A COMMUNITY. SO I THINK WE NEED TO FIND MORE WAYS TO BRIDGE THE GAPS, DO THINGS TOGETHER AND SEE HOW WE CAN SERVE EACH OTHER BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY WE NEED EACH OTHER AND THANK YOU AND PLEASURE AND SORRY COUNSELOR TO HEAR THAT WILL COME BACK AROUND FOR A SECOND ROUND OR IT WASN'T A SECOND ROUND. LET'S HAVE A HAND UP SO JUST SO YOU KNOW. YES. OKAY SO DIDN'T SEE THAT I JUST I THINK IT'S A ME SHARE MY SCREEN AND I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT ON DISPLAY FOR 2 SECONDS. THIS IS THE LIST THE TRACKING OF WOMEN AND APPRENTICESHIP IN THE STATE AND UNION OF UNION AND NOT IN APPRENTICESHIPS IN CONSTRUCTION. SO I, I JUST WANT TO SET THE STAGE THAT THE UNIONS ARE DOING A LOT MORE THAN THE NONUNION SECTOR IS. AND THAT SAID, I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH BOTH PRISCILLA AND RENEE.  WE NEED TO BE DOING MORE. THE CARPENTERS HAVE SAID A GROWTH GOAL FOR WOMEN OF 10% PER YEAR PER LOCAL COUNCIL WIDE. SO THAT'S SEVEN STATES AND THAT IS TRACKED AT MONTHLY REGIONAL MANAGER MEETINGS AND THERE'S A LOT OF INTERNAL DATA SO HAPPENING.  SO I THINK IN ADDITION TO ALL THE COMMUNITY STUFF THAT WE NEED JUST TALKED ABOUT WHICH I TOTALLY AGREE IS REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE'VE HAD SOME INTERNAL EFFORTS AND WE'RE NOT WORRIED LIKE MY OWN UNION WE'RE NOT WHERE WE NEED TO BE WHERE AND WHY WERE WE BETTER THAN WE USED TO BE THE ONLY WOMAN ON EVERY JOB I WORKED WHEN I STARTED IN 1989 BUT I DO TOTALLY AGREE WITH PRISCILLA. WE GOT IT. WE GOT TO KEEP SPEEDING IT UP BECAUSE WE'RE NOT WHERE WE NEED TO BE AND THE THE FEDERAL DEPARTMENT OF LABOR GOAL FOR WOMEN IS ACTUALLY 38% ACROSS ALL TRADES.  SO THAT WAS A CHANGE UNDER OBAMA. IT'S BEEN FALLING AND IT WAS A LONG TIME AGO NOW. OBAMA BUT IT'S STILL ROLLING OUT AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL. BUT TO ME THAT'S THE STANDARD LIKE WHEN WE HIT THEIR I CAN TAKE A NAP BUT NOW ALL THAT THANK YOU. THANK YOU LIZ JUST GOING TO MOVE THIS ON. I THINK THERE IS ANOTHER HEARING AT 2:00 SO I JUST WANT TO GET TO EVERYONE COUNSELOR FLYNN AND COUNSELOR FITZGERALD HERE ON DECK.  NO, I DON'T SEE COUNSELOR FLYNN ON I DON'T KNOW COUNSELOR FITZGERALD I'LL MOVE ON TO YOU. COUNSELOR FLYNN YOU DO WANT TO JOIN US.  THEY SEE COUNSELOR FITZGERALD ON BUT MAYBE NOT JUST GOING TO RIFLE THROUGH THIS IF ANYONE COMES BACK. COUNSELOR DURKIN OKAY.  COUNSELOR FERNANDEZ ANDERSON OH YEAH.  THERE YOU GO. COUNSELOR FERNANDEZ ANDERSON YOU'RE UP 5 MINUTES.  THANK YOU, CHAIR MS..  FLYNN MS.. DOZIER AND MS.. SKIDMORE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.  OF COURSE I DON'T WANT TO SOUND LIKE AN ECHO. I AGREE AND SUPPORT EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN STATED HERE TODAY THERE WE HAVE SO MUCH MORE WORK TO DO ON THIS.  I THINK THAT IT'S GOING TO SOUND REDUNDANT IF I JUST KEEP REITERATING THE SAME POINTS THAT MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES HAVE MADE.  I GUESS I'M WONDERING CHAIR YOU KNOW, WHERE COULD WE TAKE IS CAN WE FIX IT? CAN WE DO A WORKING SESSION AND I DON'T WANT TO PUT MORE WORK ON YOU BUT JUST JUST ASKING CAN WE DO A WORKING SESSION WHERE WE ACTUALLY VET THROUGH AND CREATE THE METRICS FOR OURSELVES BECAUSE IF THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO IF THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO REPORT TO US THEN THE COUNCIL DO WE HAVE THIS RESPONSIBILITY WHERE WE PERHAPS PUTTING THINGS ON SOME SORT OF CHART WHERE WE'RE SAYING OKAY, THIS IS WHERE WE ARE? CHECK, CHECK, CHECK AND THIS IS WHERE WE ASSUME THIS IS WHAT WE KNOW IS GOING TO HAPPEN AND FIGURE OUT EXACTLY BECAUSE IT FEELS LIKE SOMETIMES WHEN WE IN HEARINGS WE MAKE STATEMENTS OR ASK QUESTIONS AND THEN WE GET MINUTES. BUT BECAUSE OUR SCHEDULES ARE SO INUNDATED, I WONDER IF IT MAKES SENSE FOR US TO ACTUALLY WORKSHOP THIS TO BE ABLE TO DOCUMENT IT WITH WHATEVER REPORT THAT YOU WILL BE PUTTING OUT BACK ON THE FLOOR IN TERMS OF WHAT WAS THE OUTCOME OF THIS AND IN THIS WAY WE CAN HOLD OURSELVES TO ACCOUNT AND SAY THERE WAS A TIMELINE WHEN WE CREATED MEASURABLE GOALS AND WE WILL REVISIT IT WITHIN ONE YEAR OR WITHIN SIX MONTHS. WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THAT? CHAIR WELL, I DO THINK COMING OUT OF THIS THAT IT SEEMS LIKE AND I AGREE WITH COUNSELOR MEJIA THAT YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO REVISIT WHAT IS GOING ON. YOU KNOW, WE'RE MAKING SOME PROGRESS BUT YOU KNOW, 40 YEARS IN YOU KNOW, WE FEEL AND IT FEELS LIKE WE SHOULD HAVE LIKE A METHOD OF ENFORCING THIS THAT'S EFFECTIVE AND THAT WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY ENFORCEMENT EVEN THOUGH THERE'S SOME IN THE ORDINANCE THAT WE REVISIT THAT WE DO HAVE THESE HEARINGS TWICE A YEAR IN TERMS OF THE DATA I'M NOT SURE WE NEED THE DATA ANY MORE.  I THINK WE HAVE 40 YEARS WORTH OF DATA AND WE'RE GOING TO GET MORE IN SIX MONTHS. I DO THINK IT WOULD IT WOULD BE GOOD TO I DON'T KNOW SCHEDULE SOME YOU KNOW, WE CAN HAVE A HEARING AND AND IT'S A WORKING SESSION ON THE ORDINANCE ITSELF TO TARGET YOU KNOW, WHAT PARTS WE NEED SO I I'M HAPPY TO TALK TO YOU TO TALK TO EVERYONE ELSE ON THE COUNCIL TO COME UP WITH A GAME PLAN FOR THAT.  BUT I DO AGREE THAT COMING OUT OF THIS HAVING REVIEWED EVERYTHING YOU KNOW, I, I THINK WE NEED TO WE NEED TO GO BACK AND FIGURE OUT WHETHER WE NEED SOMETHING MORE ON APPRENTICESHIPS.  WE DON'T REALLY EVEN HAVE ANY DATA ON THE APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS OR THE DAILY FINES, YOU KNOW, OR IT'S SOMETHING SOMETHING ELSE THAT YOU KNOW I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S I THINK THAT'S THAT'S FOR AFTER THIS I'M HAPPY TO CIRCULATE THE THE COMMITTEE REPORT BEFORE AND IF PEOPLE WANT TO COMMENT ON IT BEFORE WE YOU KNOW READ IT OUT IN THE COUNCIL IF THAT WAS THAT WORKED. YEAH. AND MAYBE NOT EVEN A WORKING SESSION AND I WAS TALKING LESS ABOUT DATA AND MORE ABOUT MEASURABLE, YOU KNOW, OBJECTIVES IN TERMS OF THE PROCESS, IN TERMS OF ACCOUNTABILITY, TRANSPARENCY AND SO THAT WE ARE DOING OUR PART I'M PUTTING THE ONUS ON US TO DO THE FOLLOW UP HERE AND AGAIN IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A WORKING SESSION BUT MAYBE IT'S JUST A MEETING WITH THE ADMINISTRATION AND WITH THE DEPARTMENT WHERE WE ARE LOOKING AT BECAUSE HEAR ME OUT HERE IF WE DO CREATE A CHART THEN WE CAN ACTUALLY PROVIDE THIS TO THE PUBLIC AND SAY THIS IS WHERE WE ARE SO FAR. SO LAST YEAR THIS IS WHAT WE KNOW AND I AM SPECIFICALLY PROCESS AND OF COURSE IT SHOULD ENTAIL SOME DATA BECAUSE THEN WE'RE MAKING STATEMENTS ABOUT WHAT'S WRONG WITH IT AND I THINK YOUR POLICY BRIEF DID THAT JUST FINE BUT AT LEAST WE CAN SORT OF IT'S A TRACKER FOR OURSELVES AND AND ALSO LOOKING AT POLICY LEGISLATIVELY HOW WE CAN AMEND MAKE SOME AMENDMENTS AND I THINK A PART OF IT IT'S THE DEPARTMENT NOT KNOWING WHO WHO'S APPLYING TO THOSE JOBS WHICH IS UNION NONUNION INDIVIDUALS.  SO IF THAT'S THE CASE LIKE WHAT'S IT CAN WE ADD SOMETHING SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY GET THAT INFORMATION AS WELL AND ABLE TO AUDIT THOSE APPLICATIONS AS WELL BECAUSE IF THEY'RE NOT GETTING IT, IS IT IS IT MISSING FROM THE ORDINANCE AND WHERE HOW CAN WE MITIGATE THAT?  BUT JUST MY SUGGESTION BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE SOMETIMES AGAIN LIKE THE WORK IS THE WORK IS A LOT AND WE MEET WE TALK, WE ASK QUESTIONS AND THEN THE DEPARTMENT IS WORKING REALLY HARD, RIGHT? AND THEN THE CONNECTION I THINK IS REPORTING OUT AND THE TRANSPARENCY BEHIND IT WOULD BE PROVIDING THIS LEVEL OF LIKE PUBLIC REPORT IN A BI IT BY WAY OF A CHART BY WAY OF A TIMELINE TO TRACK WHERE WE ARE DOING OUR WORK SO THAT WE CAN SHOW HOW PRODUCTIVE OR HOW IMPACTFUL WE ARE IN FOLLOWING THROUGH. YEAH I MEAN I, I, I THINK THAT MIGHT REQUIRE A CONVERSATION WITH GOVERNMENT OPS CHAIR COLETTA TO SEE MAYBE WE JUST WE COULD REFINE ALL THE ORDINANCE AND THEN HELP IT OUT FOR AMENDMENTS AND START THAT PROCESS TO SEE WHAT YOU KNOW WHAT WOULD HER WILLINGNESS IS. BUT I SO HAPPY TO TALK ABOUT IT. I IF YOUR 5 MINUTES ARE UP I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE HAD ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PANELISTS I LEAVE IT TO YOU KNOW THANK YOU CHAIR I DIDN'T HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS I, I WORK CLOSELY WOULD BE I'VE GONE TO THEIR MEETINGS I'M AWARE THAT THE THESE PANELISTS HERE HAVE AND I'VE BEEN LISTENING AND WE'VE EXHAUSTED THEIR RESOURCES SO IT'S AT A POINT NOW AS YOU KNOW LIKE WHERE WE'RE AT A POINT WHERE IT'S ABOUT ACTION STEPS. SO I WAS JUST THAT WAS JUST MY ONLY POINT. THANK YOU. AND I THINK MISS FLYNN WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT. I DON'T THINK IT WAS ABOUT WHAT I SAID. OKAY. I THANK YOU ON COUNCIL OF THE THINGS I SERIOUSLY THINK WHEN WE CHANGED THE AND AMAZON JOB POLICY IN 2017 WE HAD SOME WORKING GROUPS AND WE WORK WITH THEN CAROLYN CROCKETT WHO HELPED US ABOUT THIS NEW POLICY. HOWEVER WE WERE NEVER REALLY SATISFIED WITH THIS POLICY BECAUSE WE COULD NOT REALLY SANCTION PEOPLE AND WE THE FACT THAT THEY THEY WOULD WE COULD NOT DO THAT. THAT'S WHY WE SET UP FOR THAT SEVEN RUBIK'S CUBE. I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT HOW CAN WE REALLY MAKE THESE DEVELOPERS AND THESE CONTRACTORS COME IN TO COMPLIANCE I MEAN $300 THAT CAN BE THERE SHOULD BE CHANGE. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE THE GOVERNOR EVEN WHEN SHE WAS STILL THE ATTORNEY GENERAL ABOUT RAISING THAT AND SHE'S LIKE WELL, WE CAN'T DO THAT. WE GOT TO GO TO THE GOVERNOR NOW SHE'S THE GOVERNOR. SO COME ON, LET'S LET'S JUST TRY TO MAKE SOME STUFF HAPPEN HERE.  YEAH. AND I THINK WE SHOULD I KNOW YOU ALL DO WORKING GROUPS ALSO WE DID I THINK IT WAS ABOUT A YEAR MAYBE TWO YEARS THAT WE WORKED ON THIS WITH KATLYN CROCKETT, CHUCK TURNER, THE PEOPLE FROM THE BOSTON JOBS COALITION, DG AND THAT'S HOW WE GOT THE POLICY THAT WE HAVE NOW COME TO WORK FROM 2017. BUT AS YOU ALL CAN SEE AS EVERYBODY CAN SEE IT'S STILL THE SAME OLD BULL REALLY IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT WHEN WE'RE AT THE POLE THAT THEY WANT TO BLAME EVERYTHING ON IT BUT IT WAS HAPPENING WAY BEFORE CODY THESE DEVELOPED THESE THESE LARGE CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES THEY CAN BE DOING MORE STUFF THAT COME ON SOMETHING IS MORE WORK WELL ALL OVER THE WORLD SO YOU CAN'T TELL ME THAT THESE DEVELOPERS AND SO CAN INPUT MORE INTO ARE YOU BILL HELPING THEM WITH APPRENTICESHIPS AND HELPING THEM WITH THEIR TRADES AND TEACHING THEM? MCCANN AND DIFFERENT THINGS SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE A BETTER LIFE. IT NEEDS TO STOP WHEN THEY'RE IN HIGH SCHOOL AND WE HAVE A HIGH SCHOOL THAT CAN DO THIS WORK.  YEAH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MISS FLYNN I FEEL LIKE PART OF THE ISSUE IS AND I THINK THE CASE LAW SAYS THAT WE CAN'T WE IT'S HARD FOR US TO GO IN AND SAY YOU'RE NOT MEETING YOU KNOW ,THESE PERCENTAGES. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THIS DISCIPLINARY ACTION AGAINST YOU. WHAT WE HAVE IS THIS SORT OF MUCH THINNER ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM OF WELL, YOU DIDN'T FILE THE REQUIRED PAPERWORK AND IT'S FIGURING OUT HOW YOU KNOW AND HOW TO HOW TO MAKE IT MORE EFFECTIVE. AND I AGREE YOU KNOW, I'M I'M NEW TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND YOU KNOW, I I'VE BEEN A WORKERS RIGHTS LAWYER FOR 18 YEARS SO YOU KNOW, I I THINK THIS I MEAN I'VE SEEN THE DATA WE NEED TO WORK HARDER ON THIS AND WHETHER IT'S A WORKING GROUP, YOU KNOW, OR WE LOOK AT FILING THE THE ORDINANCE AGAIN AND START THE AMENDMENT PROCESS AND YOU KNOW AND WHETHER IT'S AN ISSUE OF NOT HIRING FOLKS WHO ARE AVAILABLE OR MAKING MORE PEOPLE AVAILABLE THROUGH THE APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS, I FEEL LIKE THAT'S CERTAINLY A DIFFERENT ISSUE THAT HAS TO BE ADDRESSED AND MAYBE WE ADDRESS IT THROUGH THIS THIS PROCESS.  YOU KNOW, I DO I DO KNOW THAT I'D LIKE TO HEAR MORE FROM MS. . DOZIER ABOUT WHAT IBEW IS DOING TO INCREASE THE WORKFORCE THAT INCLUDES BOSTON RESIDENTS, PEOPLE OF COLOR AND WOMEN. BUT I DO KNOW THAT THE UNIONS DO HAVE THESE APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS. THEY MAY BE BRINGING THEM IN TO THE TABLE WITH THE DEVELOPERS.  I THINK I THINK WE'RE ALL AGREE HERE, YOU KNOW AND AND HOPEFULLY WE'RE NOT BACK IN SIX MONTHS BUT THAT'S YOU KNOW THAT'S THAT'S UP TO TO ME AND MY FELLOW COUNCILORS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT JUST DOING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN. I DO I I SAW A COUNSELOR MURPHY HAS JOINED US.  DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PANEL?  WELL, SHE JOINED US AND SHE'S NO LONGER HERE. I AM JUST I DIDN'T COUNCILOR DURKIN WAS HERE AND GONE. I KNOW BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN GOING ALONG WAY. I GUESS I I JUST IF ANYONE ELSE SHOWS UP MY MIKE JUST BRIEFLY,  MS.. SKIDMORE, THIS YOU KNOW THE THE THE AOC IS YOU KNOW, ARE YOU DO YOU THINK THAT WOULD BE A CITY REQUIREMENT TO HAVE WHO WOULD SET THOSE?  I WOULD THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THE CITY ESTABLISHED IS REGIONAL AND YOU CAN DEFINE IT HOWEVER YOU WANT WHETHER IT'S WHO'S WHERE THE MONEY IS COMING FROM OR CITY COUNCIL OR WHATEVER.  BUT YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE 100 AND SOME ODD AOC SO YOU GOT TO FIND SOME WAY TO COMP THEM TOGETHER THAT THEY BECOME YOU KNOW, YOU PUT THEM IN TO FUTURE BID DOCUMENTS THE CONTRACTORS IF THEY'RE BID NOBODY IS REQUIRED TO BID ON CITY WORK.  IF THEY WANT TO BID ON THE CITY WORK THEY GOT TO FOLLOW THE BJP AND A PIECE OF THAT IS OUR REPORT AT AND ATTEND MONTHLY ACCESS AND OPPORTUNITY COMMITTEES AND YOU KNOW THE THE PLAIN LANGUAGE THAT ESTABLISHED THE FIRST ONE UMASS BOSTON IS ON THE PTO WEBSITE IF YOU JUST SEARCH FOR PLAY YOU'LL SEE THAT ACTUAL LANGUAGE THAT DEFINES IT AND IT'S PRETTY GOOD LANGUAGE SO THAT CAN BE PUT IN CONTRACTS BECAUSE THAT BECAUSE OF THE LEGAL STUFF YOU'VE SAID THAT THE THE THE FINDING AND WE JUST HAVEN'T SEEN EXAMPLES AROUND THE COUNTRY OF OF FIGHTING BEING PARTICULARLY EFFECTIVE WHAT WE'VE SEEN BEING AS MUCH AS I'D LIKE TO IT'S LIKE I'M SORRY BUT WHAT WE'VE SEEN BE EFFECTIVE IS LIKE REALLY MAKING SURE THEY KNOW IT'S YOU'RE SERIOUS ABOUT MEETING THE GOALS BECAUSE THERE'S A LONG HISTORY OF NONCOMPLIANCE ON LOTS OF WALLS AND THEN SHOWING THEM HOW TO DO IT AND THEN YOU KNOW, LACK OF WORK IS HONESTLY THE BIGGEST THING.  SO LIKE BEING ABLE TO TELL A CONTRACTOR THIS IS YOUR THIRD TIME NOT IN COMPLIANCE WHEN I YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GOING TO LOOK AT EVEN IF YOU'RE A LITTLE BETTER NEXT TIME WE'RE NOT GOING TO LOOK AT YOUR BREATH. YEAH, WELL THAT'S THAT'S IT THAT'S IN THE ORDINANCE WHERE WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. BUT YOU KNOW, IT IS CREATING THE ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM SO LIZ, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I MISS GEORGIA. I KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO SAY ABOUT WHAT IBEW IS DOING TO CREATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE FROM BOSTON, PEOPLE OF COLOR, WOMEN THROUGH TRAINING AND WHAT YOU'VE SEEN IN YOUR YOUR TIME THERE I WOULD JUST SAY THAT IT'S JUST ABOUT BEING INTENTIONAL IN YOU KNOW, OUR BUSINESS MANAGERS AND THE LEADERSHIP HAS JUST SAID THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO AND IF THAT'S JUST WHAT IT IS SO WE CAN'T SAY WE HAVE JUST A ROUGH NUMBER OF 50 WHITE MEN THAT ARE RETIRING. SO THEN PEOPLE THAT COMING IN YOU GOT TO MEET AT LEAST HALF OF THEM GOT TO BE 25 GOT TO BE BLACK OR BROWN AND THEN WE GOT TO HAVE MORE AND WOMAN SO THIS IS THAT OBVIOUSLY THOSE ARE LOW NUMBERS BUT WHAT I WAS GOING OUT IS IT MATCHING WHAT'S COMING IN SO JUST BEING MORE INTENTIONAL IN WHERE HERE IN THAT'S THE PART OF JUST BEING PRESENT IN THE COMMUNITY WHEN PEOPLE SEE YOU LIKE I LIVED IN BOSTON MY WHOLE LIFE I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT THIS. YOU KNOW I DON'T EVEN KNOW THE THING. SO WHEN YOU'RE INTO INTRODUCE YOURSELVES IN THE COMMUNITY AND LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT THIS IS AN OPTION, YOU KNOW IT JUST JUST BEING PRESENT IN AND THAT'S HUGE. PEOPLE KNOW THAT IS THEIR OPTION AND WHAT IS 103 WHAT IS ELECTRICIAN WHAT DO WE DO WHERE IN THE SCHOOLS OR IN THE COMMUNITY AND THEN YOU KNOW JUST BASICALLY BEING PRESENT AND I HEARD LYNN LIZ MENTIONED PROJECT LABOR AGREEMENTS. THOSE THINGS ARE HUGE HUGE AND YOU GOT TO HOLD THESE DEVELOPERS FEET TO THE FIRE BECAUSE WE CAN HIRE YOU CAN HIRE EVERYBODY IN IN THE CITY BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE REQUIREMENTS AND WHAT IS THAT GOING TO DO? WE NEED THE WORK. WE NEED SOMEONE, WE NEED THEM. WE NEED SOMEONE TO BE IN AGREEMENT WITH DOES THE TO HOLD HOLD UP THESE STANDARDS THAT WE WANT. WE HAVE THEM WITH THE DEVELOPERS AND THESE CONTRACTORS. WE GOT TO HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE TOO. WE CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH. WE WILL TRAIN YOU UP, WE'LL GET YOU GET YOUR LICENSE, WHATEVER BUT PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING IN COMING IN HERE IN IN BUILDING WE NEED TO WE HAVE TO LET THEM KNOW THAT WE YOU HAVE TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND WE NEED YOUR HELP TOO. IT'S NOT JUST THOUGH YOU KNOW, JOHN, WE ALL KNOW IT'S A PARTNERSHIP BECAUSE WE CAN'T DO IT BY OURSELVES. THESE PEOPLE COMING OUT OF STATE AND THEY DID NOT DID THAT. YOU KNOW, I HEARD MR FLYNN TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SANCTIONS AND STUFF.  WE HAVE PEOPLE COME OVER HERE FROM ALL OVER OTHER STATES AND THEY DON'T HAVE LICENSES.  THEY'RE DOING DOING WORK WITH UNLICENSED PEOPLE. THEY'LL PICK UP PEOPLE FROM HOME DEPOT OR WHATEVER AND JUST BASICALLY DIMINISHING OUR WORK, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S NOT COOL. WE NEED PEOPLE WE NEED PEOPLE TO JUST HOLD US ACCOUNTABLE,  HOLD THE PEOPLE HOLD LICENSES AND THEN I'M ALL OVER THE PLACE. I'M SORRY BUT IT IT IT'S OKAY. I THINK THE SKIDMORE PRESENTED THEIR CHART AND IT SHOWED THAT THE UNIONS HAVE BEEN MAKING REAL MEASURABLE STRIDES WHEREAS THE NONUNION EMPLOYERS HAVEN'T . AND SO I JUST THINK YOU KNOW, IT JUST SHOWS THAT UNIONS ARE PART OF THE SOLUTION HERE AND YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, I THINK THEY ACTUALLY CAN HELP US MAKE GOOD ON THESE PROMISES. YOU AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT PEOPLE ARE GETTING TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF , YOU KNOW AND IF YOU IF WE LET THEM DO IT, THEY'LL DO IT AND THAT GOES ON ALL LEVELS AS FAR AS DEVELOPERS COMING IN AND WE JUST WE GOT TO HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE JUST LIKE WE HOLD US ACCOUNTABLE. WE GOT TO HOLD OTHER FOLKS ACCOUNTABLE AS WELL.  OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.  I GUESS LAST CALL FOR CITY COUNCILORS EVEN IF YOU HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION YOU'VE ALREADY GONE IF YOU WANT TO CHIME IN.  I AM I'M I HAVE MESSAGES. YOU CAN SEE MY HAND UP. YEAH.  OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO SAY FIRST THAT I GUESS THERE IS NO ONE SIGN UP FOR PUBLIC TESTIMONY. LAST CALL FOR PUBLIC TESTIMONY TOO.  BUT COUNCILOR MEJIA THE FLOOR IS YOURS FOR THANK YOU CHAIR. AND SO I THINK YOU KNOW, I WANT TO JUST UNDERSCORE THE SENSE OF URGENCY THAT YOU HEAR MY VOICE I IT IS FRUSTRATING AND I KNOW WE ARE MAKING PROGRESS.  BUT I THINK BACK TO THE QUESTION THAT I ASKED ABOUT HOW WE CAN AMEND LIKE JUST BECAUSE THINGS ARE THE WAY THEY OTHER THAN NECESSARILY MEAN THAT THEY HAVE TO STAY THAT WAY. I MEAN I THINK THAT THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE JUST GO ALONG TO GET ALONG AND I THINK THAT THIS MOMENT IS REALLY ASKING ALL OF US HERE IN THIS PANEL IN PARTICULAR THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN DOING THIS WORK FOR LONGER THAN ANY OF US WAS EVEN THINKING ABOUT IT IS WHAT WE NEED TO DO AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE DIFFERENTLY. AND THAT IS WHAT I'M INVESTED IN, RIGHT BECAUSE WHAT I DON'T WANT IS TO COME OCTOBER AND I'M HAVING THE SAME CONVERSATION,  I'M ASKING THE SAME QUESTIONS AND I FEEL LIKE I'M JUST GOING AROUND IN CIRCLES, RIGHT? WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY AND AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY SHIFT THIS RIGHT ONCE AND FOR ALL. AND THE ONLY WAY WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT IS HAVING THE POLITICAL WILL AND COURAGE SOMETIMES TO HAVE THOSE VERY DIFFICULT CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE RIGHT. SO THAT WE CAN AMEND AND UPDATE AND AND FIX THE PROBLEM LIKE I THINK 2017 WAS GREAT. NOW HERE WE ARE 20 TO 2024 GOOD LORD AND YEAH, DRIP, DRIP RIGHT. AND I THINK THAT THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY FOR ME AND THIS WOULD BE PART OF MY CLOSING REMARKS IS THAT YOU KNOW, I, I ALWAYS SAY THAT THE PEOPLE WHO BROUGHT ME IN HERE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT I'M HERE TO REPRESENT AND FIGHT FOR AND I CAN DO SO UNAPOLOGETICALLY RIGHT.  AND I THINK THAT PEOPLE ARE LOOKING TO US AS A COUNCIL TO BE THAT VEHICLE FOR CHANGE AND THE ONLY WAY WE'RE GOING TO BE THE COUNCIL THAT PEOPLE ARE ASKING US TO BE IS IF WE HAVE THE COURAGE TO MAKE DIFFICULT DECISIONS AND BRING THINGS ONTO THE FLOOR THAT ARE REALLY GOING TO MOVE THE WORK. AND SO I'M GOING TO ASK I AM DEFINITELY INTERESTED IN AMENDING THE CURRENT ORDINANCE AND SO COUNCILMEMBER, I JUST WANT TO LET ME KNOW FOR THE RECORD THAT YOU KNOW I KNOW THAT THIS IS YOUR COMMITTEE AND I KNOW I'M NOT THE SPONSOR OF THIS PARTICULAR HEARING ORDER.  HOWEVER, I AM A MEMBER OF THIS BODY AND I WOULD LIKE TO WORK ALONGSIDE COMMUNITY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO DIFFERENTLY. AND SO THAT IS WHERE I'M AT AND THAT IS THE THE THE THE CROSS THAT I'M GOING TO CARRY WHILE I'M HERE.  AND SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING A CONVERSATION WHETHER IT'S IN THE FORMAL SETTING OR OUT IN THE STREETS. BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE COMING BACK HERE AND DOING THE SAME CIRCUS AGAIN.  SO IF ANYONE'S INTERESTED IN JOINING THAT FIGHT, I'LL BE REACHING OUT TO YOU ALL AND WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SOME MOVES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR MEJIA I AM, MR COBB.  I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYONE SIGNED UP FOR OUR TESTIMONY.  IS THAT CORRECT? THERE'S A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF WOMEN AND PEOPLE. NO, MR CHAIR, THERE'S NO ONE IN THE SIGN UP. OKAY, WELL, I JUST I'M SORRY , MR CHAIR.  I THINK WE DID HAVE ONE PERSON WHO JUST JOINED PAMELA KING FOR PUBLIC TESTIMONY.  OKAY. SO IS IF PAMELA KING IS ON YOU HAVE 2 MINUTES FOR OTHER TESTIMONY. IF YOU IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK.  YEAH. YEAH.  MS.. KING, I CAN I CAN HEAR YOU. OKAY.  BUT I'M SORRY BUT I'M SORT OF I HAVE MY PHONE. I'M NOT MY PHONE. I HAVE TWO WEBSITES ON HERE SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN HEAR IT BUT IT'S DISTRACTING ME . I HAVE THE TV THING AND THEN I HAVE THE ZOOM BUT WHAT I WANTED TO SAY REALLY QUICKLY IS THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU HAVE BEEN DOING. THE PANELISTS THAT MS. SKIDMORE I'VE BEEN READING ABOUT YOU AND PRISCILLA AND THE BOSTON ECONOMIC EMPLOYMENT COMMISSION WITH THE SEVERAL ARTICLES FROM W W BUT GBH KNOWS THAT THAT'S AT THE NEWS DEPARTMENT AND I AND AND SO COUNSELOR HERE I'VE BEEN HEARING AND LEARNING AND WHAT WE'VE CONCLUDED THE PEOPLE THAT I'VE SHARED THIS WITH IS THAT WE JUST NEED TO FOLLOW THE LAWS AND WHAT I HEAR THAT AND I FOUND OUT FROM THE GBH NEWS ARTICLE THAT THERE HAVE BEEN NO SANCTIONS AS OF AUGUST OF 2023. SO THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A A SANCTION FINALLY MY QUESTION AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY FROM THE BOSTON THE OVERSEER MCEWEN AND THEIR PEOPLE BUT MY QUESTION IS HOW MANY DAYS AT $300 A DAY TOTALED THE FIRST SANCTION OF $70,000? HOW MANY DAYS I MEAN DID THEY YOU KNOW, IN OTHER WORDS, THAT'S A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF MONEY $17,000 FOR SANCTION. SO IF THEY WERE ABLE TO SANCTION THOSE PEOPLE, I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW MANY DAYS THAT THAT THAT COMPILED IN TERMS OF THEIR NONCOMPLIANCE AND CAN WE RETROACTIVELY GO BACK TO THE PEOPLE WHO FILED THEIR PAYROLLS LATE, NOT ATTENDED ALL OF THESE MEETINGS? CAN WE GO BACK RETROACTIVELY AND GET $17,000 FROM THEM OR MORE? THAT'S I GUESS THAT'S TWO QUESTION YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. MS. KING SO I DON'T SEE ANYONE FROM THE ADMINISTRATION ON CHRISTOPHER BROWN ARE YOU THERE ? I'M I'M HERE TO JODI IF YOU IF IF YOU COULD JUST ANSWER IF YOU HAVE THAT DATA OR I ACTUALLY DON'T AT THE TOP OF MY HEAD I CAN PULL ALL THE DATA. THERE'S DETAILED INFORMATION THAT WENT TO THE BOSTON EMPLOYMENT COMMISSION WITH BREAKDOWN OF DAYS. I'D BE HAPPY TO SHARE THAT WITH THE COUNCIL AFTERWARDS. APOLOGIES MS. KING I DON'T I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT NUMBER OF DAYS BECAUSE BECAUSE THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE BOSTON PLANNING COMMISSION HAD A NUMBER OF SUBCONTRACTOR HOURS BUT I CAN PROVIDE THAT TO THE COUNCIL TO TO SHARE. MS. KING DO YOU I MEAN DO YOU MIND GIVING ME YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS? I WROTE YES, YOU DO ALREADY HAVE IT BUT YES, THAT'S BEEN EMPTY FOR SEVEN AT AOL DOT COM . OKAY. AND MY SECOND QUESTION IS CAN WE GO RETROACTIVELY BACK ON ALL OF THESE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN IN VIOLATION AND AND AND AND YEAH, NO I UNDERSTAND I'M SURE I CAN LOOK AT THE ORDINANCE I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS IS, HOW FAR BACK THEY CAN GO AND BUT WE'LL PROVIDE YOU WITH THAT INFORMATION IT SAYS THIS IS DURING THIS SO I'M NOT SURE IF JODI HAS THAT INFORMATION.  UH, IT IS I DON'T I DON'T BELIEVE SO.  WE'VE BEEN PROVIDING AND YOU KNOW, I DEFINITELY HEAR THE FRUSTRATION WE THERE'S THE THE NUMBER OF DAYS OF LATE PAYROLL EVERY MONTH IS SIGNIFICANT AND THE SO I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION TO THE EMPLOYMENT COMMISSION MONTHLY AND IDENTIFY THOSE WHO HAVE LIKE LIKE TRENDS HISTORY OR NOT JUST MEETING MISSING A DAY OR TWO BUT I DON'T THINK TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION THERE'S A HAVING READ THE ORDINANCE I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S A STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS OF GOING BACK A YEAR AND MAKING AN ASSESSMENT OF ALL THE PAYROLLS. YOU SAID THERE IS THERE IS NOT A YES, THERE IS NO IT DOESN'T NOT LOOKING AT THE ORDINANCE. IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THERE IS A STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS THAT YOU KNOW, THAT MAY BE A SUBJECT FOR AN AMENDMENT. THERE WOULD BE YOU KNOW, I KNOW THEY'RE REQUIRED TO KEEP RECORDS I THINK FOR THREE YEARS. SO MAYBE YOU COULD GO BACK THAT FAR. BUT LET US LOOK AT LOOK AT THAT AND SEE WHAT WHAT THE ANSWER IS AND WE'LL PROVIDE THAT TO YOU IN THE EMAIL. BUT THAT THAT COULD BE SOMETHING TO TAKE UP IN THE AMENDMENTS FOR HOW FAR BACK I KNOW PLENTY OF PLENTY OF LAWS DON'T HAVE STATUTES OF LIMITATIONS AND COURTS PROVIDE ONE THAT IS YOU KNOW, SIMILAR TO WHAT IT IS YOU KNOW WHAT SHOULD BE IN THERE BUT YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S COME UP IN THE PAST. WELL, THIS COULD BE A COUNCIL RECEIVABLE AND IT SHOULD GO TO EITHER THE NET THE MONEY SHOULD NOT GO ON TO THE GENERAL FUND. IT SHOULD GO INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD A JOBS TRUST OR THE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT OR SOME KIND OF JOB CREATION PROGRAM. I MEAN SO CAN WE GET THAT $17,000 OUT OF THE OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND?  WELL, I AT THIS POINT I DON'T THINK SO.  BUT THAT IS MORE OF A QUESTION FOR THE ADMINISTRATION.  I DO THINK THIS HAS BEEN AN ISSUE. WE HAVE ONE FINE FROM LAST YEAR AND NO FINES FOR THE PREVIOUS 40 YEARS. SO THIS IS SOMETHING TO TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, AS WE GO FORWARD AND ACTUALLY AND I THINK THE ADMINISTRATION DOES HAVE MORE OF A COMMITMENT TO FINDING THAT'S WHY THEY THEY BROUGHT THE FIRST FINE IN THE 40 YEAR HISTORY OF THIS YOU KNOW LAST YEAR AND SO, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY THIS IS AN ISSUE WE CAN WORK OUT THROUGH THROUGH PRACTICE WHERE WE ACTUALLY COLLECT FINES, YOU KNOW, FOR FOR YOU KNOW, NOT FOLLOWING THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE THE ORDINANCE.  I APPRECIATE YOUR TESTIMONY. MS..  KING. WE'LL SEND YOU AN EMAIL WITH THAT INFORMATION.  BUT THAT WILL CLOSE TODAY'S HEARING.  I WANT TO THANK THE PANELISTS BOTH FOR THE ILLUSTRATION AND FOR THE ADVOCATES AND MY COLLEAGUES FOR BEING HERE TODAY AS WELL AS MY VICE CHAIR JILLIAN MARIA AND THE CO-SPONSORS OF AS COUNCILORS OF LAUREL AND MADAM PRESIDENT LOUIJEUNE I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE ENRON FROM CENTRAL STAFF FOR ALL THEIR HELP.  THERE'S NO ONE ELSE WHO SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. THE STOCK IT WILL REMAIN IN THE COMMITTEE FOR A SECOND HEARING OCTOBER AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE REVISITING THE ORDINANCE SOON WITH THE ADMINISTRATION.  SO AGAIN, THANK THANK YOU. THIS CAME THROUGH SOMEONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC TESTIMONY THAT THAT'LL BE IT FOR TODAY AND I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S TIME AND HARD WORK ON THIS ISSUE THAT CONCLUDES THE HEARING AND I'M GOING TO I'LL BRING MY HANDS TOGETHER AS THE GAVEL.  I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M SUPPOSED TO DO VIRTUALLY BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH