##VIDEO ID:b## >> MAYOR: LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, LET'S RETURN TO OUR SEATS. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. THIS REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY OF BOYNTON BEACH CITY COMMISSION IS NOW CALLED TO ORDER. TODAY IS TUESDAY AUGUST 6th, 2024. AND THE TIME IS NOW 6:00 P.M. BEFORE WE PROCEED, I WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE OF OUR RULES OF CIVILITY AND DECORUM. SPEAKERS MUST FIRST BE ADDRESSED BY THE CHAIR AND NOT INTERRUPT ANY OTHER SPEAKER. PERSONAL ATTACKS AND HATE SPEECH ARE STRICTLY PROHIBITED. PUBLIC COMMENTS MUST BE ADDRESSED TO THE COMMISSION AS A BODY THROUGH THE CHAIR. THAT IS ME. AND NOT TO ANY INDIVIDUAL ON THE DAIS OR IN THE AUDIENCE. DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIORS FROM THE AUDIENCE INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO YELLING, STAMPING OF FEET AND OTHER DEMONSTRATIONS AR STRICTLY PROHIBITED. SHOULD VIOLATIONS OCCUR AND PERSIST, YOU MAY BE ASKED TO LEAVE THESE CHAMBERS. THESE RULES ARE IN PLACE SO THIS COMMISSION CAN CONDUCT THE BUSINESS OF THE CITY IN AN ORDERLY AND TIMELY FASHION AND SO THAT ALL VOICES CAN BE HEARD. I DO WANT TO AROUND MY COLLEAGUES, IF YOU DO HEAR A SURVEILLANCE OF THESE RULES, THAT PERHAPS I MAY HAVE MISSED, FEEL FREE TO LET ME KNOW AND WE WILL QUICKLY ENFORCE THAT. ALL RIGHT. LET'S GO TO ROLL CALL. LET'S TURN TO OUR CITY CLERK. MAYLEE, IF YOU COULD BEGIN PLEASE. >> MAYOR PENSERGA. >> MAYOR: HERE. >> VICE MAYOR KELLEY. >> HERE. >> COMMISSIONER CRUZ. >> HERE. >> COMMISSIONER HAY. >> HERE. >> COMMISSIONER TURKIN. >> HERE. >> MAYOR, YOU HAVE A QUORUM. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU SO MUCH. OUR INVOCATION FOR THIS EVENING WILL BE LED BY COMMISSIONER WOODROW HAY FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG LED BY COMMISSIONER THOMAS TURKIN. LET'S STAND FOR THE INVOCATION AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. >> LET US PRAY. DEAR HEAVENLY FATHER, THE CREATOR AND MAKER OF HEAVEN AND EARTH, WE COME BEFORE YOU TODAY ON AUGUST 6th, 2024 WITH GRATEFUL HEARTS THANKING YOU FOR THE PRIVILEGES TO SERVE OUR GREAT COMMUNITY. WE ASK YOU FOR GUIDANCE AND WISDOM AS WE DELIBERATE ON MATTERS THAT AFFECT OUR GREAT CITY. GRANT US, LORD, THE CLARITY TO MAKE DECISIONS THAT PROMOTE JUSTICE, PEACE, AND THE WELL-BEING OF ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS. BLESS OUR GREAT CITY OF BOYNTON BEACH, ITS LEADERS, ITS EVERYDAY CITIZENS. HELP US TO WORK TOGETHER WITH RESPECT, UNDERSTANDING AND COMPASSION SETTING ASIDE PERSONAL AGENDAS FOR THE GREATER GOOD. IN TIMES OF DISAGREEMENT, MAY WE FIND COMMON GROUND AND REMIND OURSELVES THAT WE ARE HERE FOR THE GOOD OF OUR GREAT CITY AND TO OUR COMMITTED CITIZENS WHO SHARE THE SAME PURPOSE. WE PRAY FOR THE STRENGTH TO LEAD WITH INTEGRITY, THE COURAGE TO FACE CHALLENGES AND THE HUMILITY TO RECOGNIZE WHEN WE NEED YOUR HELP. PROTECT THOSE WHO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY AND KEEP THE CITY SAFE AND PROSPEROUS. FOR IT'S IN THE GREAT AND MAJESTIC NAME OF JESUS THE CHRIST THAT WE PRAY AND ASK IT ALL, ALL GOD'S CHILDREN SAY AMEN. >> Group: I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU, EVERYBODY. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO AGENDA APPROVAL, ADDITIONS DELETIONS, CORRECTIONS. LET'S BEGIN ON MY LEFT WITH COMMISSIONER TURKIN IF YOU HAVE ANY REQUESTS. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FOR THIS AGENDA. JUST TO CIRCLE BACK ON THE STRATEGIC PLAN, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS COMMISSIONER CRUZ OR VICE MAYOR KELLEY THAT HAD MENTIONED LOOKING AT SOME OF THE OBJECTIVES WE WANTED FROM THAT PLAN, PICKING ONE AND FOCUSING ON THAT. AND I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. YOU KNOW, WE KEEP HEARING THE TERM SMART GOALS THROWN AROUND. THAT'S TYPICALLY FOR THE CORPORATE PRIVATE SECTOR. HOWEVER, I DO THINK YOU COULD UTILIZE THAT SAME FORMAT IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR. A SHEER EXAMPLE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE MALL, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT ALL OF US CAN PROBABLY AGREE ON ALONG WITH THE RESIDENTS THAT NEED TO BE LOOKED AT, RIGHT. HOWEVER, YOU'VE GOT FOUR OR FIVE STAKEHOLDERS THAT OWN THAT. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE REALISTIC ASPECT OF IT, IS IT REALISTIC? YES. THERE'S A LOT MORE HOOPS TO JUMP IN. SO I JUST WANT STAFF TO KEEP THAT IN MIND. YOU KNOW, THAT MALL, WHATEVER IS DONE THERE, IT COULD GENERATE MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF REVENUE, YOU KNOW, FOR THE CITY, CREATE A DESTINATION, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, RIGHT. YOU KNOW, THE ABILITY TO ATTAIN IT IS FURTHER AWAY THAN MAYBE SOME OF THE OTHER OBJECTIVES THAT WE HAVE. AND SO I THINK WE SHOULD ALSO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S ATTAINABLE AS WELL AS REALISTIC AS IT IS IN THE SMART GOAL. THE MARINA BEING ONE OF THOSE, RIGHT. AND THIS IS JUST FOR SHEER EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, WHETHER OR NOT IT'S THE MARINA OR A PARK OUT WEST, I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT IS ATTAINABLE WITHIN THE CITY'S PURVIEW AS FAR AS CITY-OWNED LAND OR RELATIONSHIPS WITH PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARE GOOD WITH -- [INAUDIBLE] >> THAT'S WHAT YOU SOUND LIKE. [LAUGHTER] >> SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT WHAT'S REALISTIC, WHAT'S POSSIBLE, WHAT CAN WE ACTUALLY GET DONE WHEN WE INCORPORATE INITIATIVES INTO THE SIMPLISTIC SMART GOAN. ON TOP OF THAT, I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT SOMETHING THAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DOES. WE ALL GET IT. THEY HAVE THEIR QUARTERLY REPORT, RIGHT, WHICH IS A VERY SIMPLE GUIDE. IT'S NOT INUNDATED WITH INFORMATION. I THINK IT'S EXTREMELY USEFUL. I THINK THAT'S A TOOL THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY USE FOR OUR STRATEGIC PLAN OR CITY MANAGER UPDATES WITH SOME OF THE INITIATIVES THAT WE ARE ALL WORKING ON NOW. AND SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION ON THE RECORD. AND, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME CHANGES WITH WHO IS INITIATING THE STRATEGIC PLAN AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH CHIEF BRUDER ON THIS AND GETTING MORE PUBLIC INPUT. BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR CITY STAFF TO REALLY LOOK AND FOCUS ON WHAT IS ATTAINABLE FIRST AND PUT THAT AT THE FOREFRONT. BUT OUTSIDE OF THAT, I DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING. THANK YOU. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. >> OH, I'M SORRY, ONE MORE THING. I DO WANT TO ASK TO DO A PROCLAMATION -- I DIDN'T SEE IT IN OUR PROCLAMATION CALENDAR FOR OCTOBER. I KNOW THAT OCTOBER IS HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH SO I DON'T WANT THIS TO OVERLAP THAT. I THINK HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH I THINK STARTS MID OCTOBER IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN AND RUNS INTO NOVEMBER. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT A PROCLAMATION FOR ANIMAL WELFARE MONTH FOR OCTOBER, IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD GET A CONSENSUS ON. >> MAYOR: I THINK SO. AND SINCE THE CITY CLERK IS AWARE NOW, I'M SURE SHE WILL WORK ON BRINGING THAT FORWARD. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER HAY, DID YOU HAVE ANY REQUESTS? >> NO, I CONCUR WITH WHAT COMMISSIONER TURKIN HAS SAID. SO JUST THE BACKUP OF WHAT HE'S SAYING, WE HAVE SPENT A LOT OF FUNDS ON HIRING SOMEONE, THE PERSONALITY OF LYLE TO COME IN HERE. AND WE WENT THROUGH ALL OF THIS. AND I'M GLAD THAT WE HAVE ONE OF OUR STAFF MEMBERS WHO ARE LOOKING INTO IT AND PUTTING IT TOGETHER. AND WILL BE BRINGING IT TO US WITHIN THE NEXT FEW DAYS OR WEEKS. OKAY. SO I CONCUR WHOLEHEARTEDLY THAT WE REALLY NEED TO GET OUR GOALS AND STRATEGIES AND PRIORITIES STRAIGHT SO THAT WE CAN MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION. THANK YOU, MAYOR. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU. VICE MAYOR? >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I DON'T HAVE -- WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE GOING TO BRING IT UP, BUT I KNOW THAT THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE AMERICAN CANCER SOCIETY IS HERE IN THE AUDIENCE. AND SINCE WE HAVE THE CLOSED DOOR, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE MAYBE MOVE THAT BEFORE THE CLOSED DOOR. >> MAYOR: YES, I WAS GOING TO BRING THAT UP. BUT YES, I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU. ALL RIGHT. ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS FROM MY COLLEAGUES ON THAT? >> I'M NOT SURE WHAT -- >> MAYOR: THE REQUEST WAS? >> YES. >> MAYOR: YOU WANT TO CLARIFY, VICE MAYOR? >> YES, WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION FOR THE AMERICAN CANCER SOCIETY AT 3A. THEIR REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE. AND BECAUSE WE HAVE THE CLOSED DOOR, I DIDN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH HAVING HER SIT AND WAIT FOR US TO FINISH THE CLOSED DOOR FOR THE PROCLAMATION PRESENTATION. SO I WAS ASKING IF WE COULD MOVE THAT BEFORE WE BREAK. >> NO PROBLEM, NO PROBLEM. THANK YOU. >> MAYOR: ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE GENERAL CONSENSUS, OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? >> NO. JUST, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER TURKIN, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP. I THINK WE HAVE HEARD A LOT ABOUT GOALS THAT THE CITY HAS TO MAKE. BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE ALSO LOOK AT ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE DONE AS A COMMISSION. AND THAT'S WITHOUT HAVING, YOU KNOW -- WE ORGANICALLY HAVE GOALS, RIGHT, AS A BOARD THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE AND ACCOMPLISH. AND, YOU KNOW, SO AS MUCH AS WE NEED TO LOOK AT THOSE LONG-TERM GOALS AS WELL, THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS FROM DOG PARKS TO TOWN SQUARE TO OTHER PROJECTS TO MAKING OUR ROAD PAVING A PRIORITY. THAT IS SOMETHING THIS COMMISSION HAS PRIORITIZED AND I WANT THE RESIDENTS TO UNDERSTAND AND RECOGNIZE THAT'S SOMETHING THIS BOARD HAS MADE A PRIORITY IN DOING -- IS MAKING SURE OUR ROADS ARE MAINTAINED AND SAFE. AND SO WE REALLY -- ALTHOUGH, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE STRATEGIC PLAN AND IT WILL HAPPEN AND IT WILL SET FORTH SOME LONG-TERM GOALS, BUT WE REALLY HAVE NOT JUST SAT AND BEEN UP HERE. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT GETS RECOGNIZED BECAUSE WE REALLY HAVE MADE THIS CITY AND OUR RESIDENTS A PRIORITY IN EVERYTHING THAT WE DO. SO I DIDN'T WANT THAT TO GO UNNOTICED BECAUSE I THINK THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT. IN ALL THE NOISE, WE ALSO RECOGNIZE ALL THE GREAT STUFF THAT IS HAPPENING IN OUR CITY ON A DAILY BASIS. SO THOSE ARE MY 2 CENTS. I DO AGREE, COMMISSIONER TURKIN, ON FINDING THAT ONE THING THAT IS POSSIBLE AND ATTAINABLE. WHETHER THAT'S THE MALL, I KNOW MAYBE AT SOME POINT ADAM CAN GIVE US AN UPDATE DOWN THE ROAD AS FAR AS HIM AND THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THE MALL ON KIND OF A REGULAR BASIS ON WHAT THEIR LONG-TERM GOALS ARE AND CITY CAN DO TO HELP THAT ALONG. SO MAYBE WE CAN GET AN UPDATE BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF KIND OF RUMORS OUT THERE AS TO WHAT'S GOING ON AND WHAT'S NOT GOING ON. AND SO, ADAM, MAYBE WE CAN GET SOME SORT OF UPDATE AS FAR AS THE STATUS OF THE MALL AND WHAT THE CITY IS DOING TO TRY AND WORK WITH THE OWNERS TO MOVE THAT FORWARD OR MOVE SOMETHING FORWARD IN THAT DIRECTION. SO THANK YOU. >> MAYOR: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER CRUZ? >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER KELLEY, FOR THOSE COMMENTS. I DEFINITELY AGREE WITH THAT. WE HAVE DONE A LOT OF GREAT THINGS TO PRIORITIZE OUR RESIDENTS. SOME OF THOSE THINGS INCLUDE PAVING, BUT NOT ONLY THAT. ALSO A LOT OF REALLY GREAT EVENTS AND A LOT OF UPDATES WITH DEVELOPMENT AS WELL. I DO WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK THE MEMBERS OF STAFF WHO HELPED PREPARE FOR A TOWN HALL I HAD YESTERDAY. THERE WERE A FEW OF YOU SO I WANT TO GIVE THANKS TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU FOR HELPING ME WORK ON THAT AND GET THOSE UPDATES. ALSO, I DID HAVE ONE THING THAT I WANTED TO BRIEFLY DISCUSS LATER IN THE MEETING. AND THERE WAS A BIT OF BACKUP DOCUMENTATION THAT I WANTED TO ADD JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE BOARD IS ON THE SAME PAGE. IT'S FOR ITEM 6B, ATTACHMENT EXHIBIT B. BUT I REQUESTED SOME ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTATION TO STAFF. AND I WOULD LIKE FOR THAT TO BE ADDED TO THE AGENDA. AND ALSO, PRINTED FOR THE COMMISSION WHILE WE HAVE OUR SHADE SESSION AS WE WILL HAVE TIME TO PRINT. BUT JUST SO THAT WE CAN DISCUSS AND WE CAN ALL BE ON THE SAME PAGE SO THAT YOU CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M REFERRING TO. >> MAYOR: AND YOU SAID STAFF ALREADY HAS IT? >> YES. IT WAS BASICALLY AN EMAIL THAT I SENT EARLIER AND THERE WAS A RESPONSE TO IT. BUT I WOULD LIKE ALL THE ATTACHMENTS FOR THAT EMAIL PRINTED OUT AND GIVEN IN A PACKET TO ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, JUST SO THAT THEY CAN BE AWARE OF THAT INFORMATION. AND WE'LL HAVE PLENTY OF TIME FROM NOW UNTIL THE CLOSE OF OUR SESSION IS OVER. >> MAYOR: ALL RIGHT. >> SO FOR THAT TO BE ADDED TO THE AGENDA. >> MAYOR: BASICALLY YOU'RE SAYING THERE'S AN EMAIL YOU WANT US TO LOOK AT? >> YES, TO HAVE IT PRINTED OUT AND GIVE IT TO EVERYBODY, THE ATTACHMENTS OF THE EMAIL. NOT THE EMAIL ITSELF. >> MAYOR: OKAY. >> AND THAT'S IT, THANK YOU. >> MAYOR: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CRUZ. AS FOR ME, VICE MAYOR ALREADY BROUGHT UP MOVING UP THE PROCLAMATION, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. I DID WANT TO BRING UP TWO ADMINISTRATIVE ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION TODAY IF THERE'S NO MAJOR OBJECTIONS FROM MY COLLEAGUES. THE FIRST IS JUST MY COMMUNITY SUPPORT FUNDS. WE COULD EITHER ALLOCATE IT TODAY OR NEXT MEETING, IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME. IF THERE'S NO OBJECTIONS, I'LL BRING IT UP TODAY. AND THEN I'D ALSO LIKE TO ASK FOR A BRIEF DISCUSSION ON A POSSIBLE SCHEDULE CHANGE TO ONE OF OUR MEETINGS -- AUGUST 20th. I WILL BE IN DISPOSE ON THAT DAY. AND STAFF HAS INFORMED ME THAT IS A VERY LIGHT AGENDA SO THEY ARE EVEN THINKING ABOUT JUST COMBINING IT WITH ANOTHER MEETING. BUT I WANTED TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION AND LET YOU GUYS DECIDE EITHER WAY, HAVE THAT DISCUSSION. IS THAT OKAY WITH EVERYBODY? >> YES, SIR. >> MAYOR: LET'S CIRCLE BACK ON THAT. AND WE'LL DO THAT UNDER ADMINISTRATIVE BECAUSE THEY ARE ADMINISTRATIVE ITEMS. OKAY. SO WITH THAT, IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, MAY I HAVE A MOTION -- OH, THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE. COMMISSIONER CRUZ. >> I'M SORRY, MAYOR. >> MAYOR: GO AHEAD. >> IT'S REGARDING AN EMAIL THAT I HAVE HAD GOING ON. BUT DURING THE BUDGET HEARINGS AND THEN DURING I BELIEVE IT WAS PROBABLY JULY 16th MEETING, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, I REQUESTED FOR US TO HAVE A BRIEF DISCUSSION ABOUT SOME ITEMS IN THE BUDGET THAT WE DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO DISCUSS. SOME OF THAT IS THE WATER RATES. I HAVE BEEN DOING A BIT OF RESEARCH. AND I'LL BE SHARING INFORMATION WITH STAFF. I HAVE ALREADY -- TO TRY TO MAKE IT QUICKER, I HAVE REACHED OUT TO OUR MUNICIPALITIES TO SEE WHAT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES ARE DOING. I HAVE RECEIVED SOME EMAILS THIS AFTERNOON ABOUT THAT. SO I'LL FORWARD IT TO THE APPROPRIATE STAFF. BUT I DID WANT TO HAVE, AS I REQUESTED TWICE AND HAVE HAD CONSENSUS IN TWO PREVIOUS MEETINGS, I WANTED TO HAVE THAT AS A DISCUSSION FOR THE SECOND MEETING IN AUGUST. I HAD MENTIONED TO HAVE IT AT EITHER ONE, WHETHER IT WAS THE FIRST OR THE SECOND. IT WAS NOT ON THIS ONE SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO THAT. >> MAYOR: OKAY. >> AND ALSO H AS WE MOVE FORWAR, WE DEFINITELY SHOULD MAYBE HAVE SOMEBODY DESIGNATED IN STAFF TO TAKE NOTES OF WHEN WE REQUEST FOR THINGS TO BE COMING UP SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THAT AT FUTURE MEETINGS AND WE DON'T MISS ANYTHING GOING FORWARD. >> MAYOR: ON THAT NOTE, COMMISSIONER, I DID SPEAK WITH STAFF TODAY. THEY DID SHOW ME -- IS IT ALL RIGHT IF I SHARE THAT? THERE IS A TRACKING MECHANISM IF YOU'D LIKE TO BRING THAT UP FOR A FUTURE DISCUSSION, MR. MACK, I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR EVERYBODY. I ACTUALLY WANTED TO DO THAT DURING ONE OF OUR WORKSHOPS, ONE OF OUR PREAGENDA WORKSHOPS SO WE ALL KEEP TRACK OF WHERE THINGS ARE. THAT WOULD BE VERY USEFUL. OKAY. WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE I MOVE ON? COMMISSIONER TURKIN, I SEE YOUR HAND UP. >> YES. JUST TO ECHO COMMISSIONER CRUZ'S SENTIMENT. I WAS INFORMED BY LEGAL YESTERDAY THAT THE DISCUSSION FOR THE HARVEY OYER RESTRICTED COVENANT WOULD BE ON THE SECOND MEETING IN AUGUST, TOO. I'M OPEN TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION TO SEE WHAT WE WANT TO DO. I'M INDIFFERENT. BUT I WOULD WANT TO KNOW WHAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE ON THE SEPTEMBER AGENDA BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TOO MANY ITEMS AND STAY TOO LATE. BUT I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, MAYOR. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE? WITH THAT, MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AS AMENDED? >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> MAYOR: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER TURKIN, SECOND FROM VICE MAYOR KELLEY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF AMENDING THE AGENDA, SAY AYE. [AYES] ALL RIGHT. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. AGENDA IS AMENDED. LET ME TURN NOW TO COUNCIL -- COUNSEL TO READ INTO THE RECORD THE ATTORNEY/CLIENT SHADE MEETING. >> I'M SORRY, WERE WE DOING THE PROCLAMATION FIRST? >> MAYOR: YES. I ALMOST MISSED IT. I'M SO SORRY. LET'S DO THE PROCLAMATION AND LET'S PULL IT UP ON THE SCREEN. AND I WAS TOLD THAT WE HAVE LINDSEY BENNETT HERE. IS SHE HERE? LET ME READ IT INTO THE RECORD AND I'LL COME DOWN AND PRESENT IT TO YOU. ALL RIGHT. IF SOMEBODY COULD PULL UP THE PROCLAMATION. THE PROCLAMATION READS AS FOLLOWS. WHEREAS, FUNDS RAISED THROUGH THE MAKING STRIDES AGAINST BREAST CANCER OF PALM BEACH COUNTY ENABLE THE AMERICAN CANCER SOCIETY TO SAVE LIVES FROM BREAST CANCER BY FUNDING GROUNDBREAKING BREAST CANCER RESEARCH, PROVIDING FREE COMPREHENSIVE INFORMATION AND SUPPORT TO THOSE TOUCHED BY BREAST CANCER AND HELPING PEOPLE REDUCE THEIR BREAST CANCER RISK OR FIND IT EARLY WHEN IT'S LIKELY MOST TREATABLE, WHEREAS BREAST CANCER IS THE MOST COMMON CANCER AMONG WOMEN, EXCEPT FOR SKIN CANCER AND THE SECOND LEADING CAUSE OF CANCER DEATH IN WOMEN. WHEREAS AFRICAN-AMERICAN WOMEN ARE MORE LIKELY TO DIE FROM BREAST CANCER THAN WOMEN OF ALL OTHER RACES. AND WHEREAS, AN ESTIMATED 2,790 CASES OF MALE BREAST CANCER WILL BE DIAGNOSED IN 2022 AND ABOUT 530 MEN WILL DIE OF THE DISEASE. AND WHEREAS, DEATH RATES FROM BREAST CANCER HAVE BEEN DECLINING AND THIS CHANGE IS BELIEVED TO BE THE RESULT OF EARLIER DETECTION AND IMPROVED TREATMENT. NOW, THEREFORE, I TY PENSERGA BY VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY VESTED IN ME AS THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA HEREBY PROCLAIM OCTOBER -- IS THAT CORRECT? OCTOBER 2024 AS NATIONAL BREAST CANCER AWARENESS MONTH. AND OCTOBER 18th, 2024 AS NATIONAL MAMMOGRAPHY DAY. SO I'D LIKE TO CALL UP MS. LINDSEY BENNETT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND I'D LOVE FOR YOU TO SPEAK A FEW WORDS ON THE GREAT WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING. LET'S GIVE HER A ROUND OF APPLAUSE. [APPLAUSE] >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME. YEAH, I'LL GO TO THE MICROPHONE BUT I HAVE AN OLD TEACHER VOICE SO I LIKE TO PROJECT. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR GIVING ME THIS OPPORTUNITY. >> EXCUSE ME, IT'S MORE ABOUT RECORDING. >> SORRY. CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? IS THAT BETTER? SORRY. >> MAYOR: IF YOU COULD SPEAK TO US, PLEASE. THEY CAN HEAR YOU. >> GOT IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME. THIS YEAR MAKING STRIDES AGAINST BREAST CANCER IS A COUNTY WIDE EVENT EXPECTING 7500 PEOPLE. WE ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. THAT WILL BE OCTOBER 26th AT SUNSET COVE AMPHITHEATER. AND I ALSO WANT TO INVITE ALL OF YOU OUT FOR AUGUST 22nd FOR OUR PINKA PALOOZA OPEN HOUSE TO FIND OUT MORE ABOUT MAKING STRIDES, GET YOUR TEAMS REGISTERED IF YOU ARE A SURVIVOR OR THRIVER, COME AND REGISTER. I'M BORN AND RAISED IN PALM BEACH COUNTY AND BOTH OF MY PARENTS ARE CANCER SURVIVORS, SO THIS IS VERY NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART. AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE TIME AND THE OPPORTUNITY. THANK YOU. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] ALL RIGHT, COUNSEL. LET ME TURN TO YOU. >> THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 286.0118 FLORIDA STATUTES, THE CITY OF BOYNTON BEACH COMMISSION WILL HOLD A CLOSED SHADE -- CLOSED ATTORNEY/CLIENT SHADE MEETING TO OCCUR AT THIS TIME TO DISCUSS BOYNTON BEACH LITTLE LEAGUE D.B.A. EAST BOYNTON BEACH LITTLE LEAGUE VERSUS THE CITY OF BOYNTON BEACH IN THE MATTER OF CIRCUIT COURT 15th JUDICIAL CIRCUIT CASE NUMBER 502024CA000517 FOLLOWING THE COMMENCEMENT OF THIS MEETING, THE CITY COMMISSION WILL MOVE INTO A CLOSED ATTORNEY/CLIENT SHADE MEETING. THE MEETING WILL BE ATTENDED BY MAYOR TY PENSERGA, VICE MAYOR AIMEE KELLEY, COMMISSIONER ANGEL CRUZ, COMMISSIONER WOODROW HAY, COMMISSIONER THOMAS TURKIN. THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER ANDREW MACK, CITY ATTORNEY SHAWNA LAMB, AND COURT REPORTER RACHEL SIBULLA. THE MEETING IS TO TAKE APPROXIMATELY 60 MINUTES. FOLLOWING THE CONCLUSION OF CLOSED ATTORNEY/CLIENT SHADE MEETING, THE CITY COMMISSION WILL RESUME ITS REGULARLY SCHEDULED CITY COMMISSION MEETING HERE IN CHAMBERS AT WHICH TIME PUBLIC BUSINESS WILL BE CONCLUDED AND THE MEETING ADJOURNED. THANK YOU. >> MAYOR: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. SO WITHOUT OBJECTION, WE WILL RETURN IN ABOUT AN HOUR. AND SO NOW THIS MEETING HAS RECESSED. ALL RIGHT. WE WILL BE BACK IN ABOUT AN HOUR. IT IS 6:22 NOW, SO EXPECT ABOUT 7:22. THANK YOU SO MUCH. [SHADE MEETING] >> MAYOR: THE COMMISSION HAS RETURNED FROM THE SHADE SESSION. THIS MEETING IS CALLED BACK TO ORDER. LET ME TURN BACK TO OUR COUNSEL TO CONCLUDE THE ITEM. >> YES, AT THIS TIME, WE'D LIKE TO ANNOUNCE THAT WE HAVE CONCLUDED THE SHADE MEETING AND ARE WRUEMG THE PUBLIC MEETING AT 7:15 P.M. EASTERN TIME FOR REGULAR CONDUCTED CITY BUSINESS. THANK YOU. >> MAYOR: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. LET'S RETURN NOW WITH THE AGENDA. WERE THERE ANY INFORMATIONAL ITEMS FROM THE COMMISSION? THIS IS SECTION 2. LET'S BEGIN ON MY RIGHT AND THEN PROCEED TO PUBLIC AUDIENCE. >> I DID NOT. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU. VICE MAYOR? >> NO, THANK YOU, MAYOR. >> MAYOR: COMMISSIONER HAY. >> NO. >> MAYOR: OKAY. COMMISSIONER TURKIN? NO INFORMATIONAL ITEMS FROM ANYONE SO WE WILL PROCEED TO PUBLIC AUDIENCE. THIS IS FOR CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS AND NON-AGENDAED ITEMS. AS ALWAYS, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES PER PERSON. AFTER WE CONCLUDE WITH THOSE IN THE CHAMBERS, WE'LL GO TO THOSE ONLINE. WE NEED TO ADD THIS IS NOT A Q&A BUT WE ARE TAKING NOTES AND STAFF WILL CONNECT WITH YOU THEREAFTER. AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT. WHEN YOU'RE READY, YOU CAN APPROACH THE PODIUM. STATE YOUR NAME STATE YOUR NAME AND WE DO HAVE MORE THAN ONE PODIUM. SO WE SWITCHED TO THE TIMER. ONE SECOND. ALL RIGHT. BEGIN WHEN YOU'RE READY. >> SUSAN OYER, BOYNTON BEACH. SO I'M ONCE AGAIN UP HERE COMPLAINING ABOUT CODE ENFORCEMENT AND OFFICER OSIRIS CASTILLO CONTINUING TO HARASS AND BULLY THE PEOPLE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. I HAVE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH DAN AND THE CITY MANAGER AND COMMISSIONER TURKIN HAS BEEN IN ON THE EMAILS. I HAVE HAD THE CONVERSATION TONIGHT WITH ADAM AND I HAVE SAT DOWN AND HAD A MEETING WITH PATRICK HART. I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO AT THIS POINT. PEOPLE ARE REACHING OUT AND EMAILING AND TEXTING AND ASKING FOR HELP. IT'S GETTING SO BAD. ON SEACREST ESTATES NEIGHBORHOOD FORUM WHICH IS WHERE IT REALLY STARTED BLOWING UP, THERE'S SOMEBODY NAMED PAT KELLEY WHO WAS COMPLAINING ABOUT A PROBLEM HE'S HAVING. JULIE ANGELA ROCK WHO TOOK OVER THE NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH FROM ME, SHE HAD A PROBLEM LAST YEAR WITH OUR PRIOR CODE ENFORCEMENT PERSON MARK CARAGEORGE AND SHE WAS FORCED TO PAY OUT. I KEEP WINNING MY BATTLES BECAUSE I'M RIGHT AND THEY ARE WRONG BUT MY NEIGHBORS ARE NOT AS WELL VERSED IN STATE STATUTE APPARENTLY AS I AM. AND SO THEY ARE GETTING TONS OF CRAP AND THIS HAS GOT TO STOP. TODAY I GOT A MESSAGE FROM BILL AND MARY ANN PERKINS WHO LIVE AROUND THE CORNER FROM ME. I HAVE EMAILED COMMISSIONER TURKIN IN THE PAST ABOUT PETER AND NICOLA AROUND THE CORNER WHO SPENT $15,000 AND HAD TO RIP OUT THEIR YARD TO MAKE CODE ENFORCEMENT HAPPY AND THAT OFFICER WENT IN THEIR BACKYARD WHICH SHE'S NOT ALLOWED TO DO. AND THIS NEEDS TO STOP. AND I WILL CONTINUE TO COME UP HERE AND COMPLAIN ABOUT THIS UNTIL YOU GUYS DO SOMETHING. AND HOPEFULLY WHEN COMMISSIONER TURKIN BRINGS UP THE DISCUSSION ON ARTIFICIAL TURF AND OTHER OPTIONS FOR YARDS, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY THAT WILL HELP THIS. YOU GUYS SAW THE STATUTES I HANDED YOU LAST WEEK FROM 2008 AND 2011 THAT SAY ARTIFICIAL TURF IS ALLOWED AND ROCKS AND GRAVEL AND MULCH, ANYTHING THAT IS ZEROSCAPING AND REDUCES THE NEED FOR WATER AND HELPS MITIGATE FLOODING. AND I'M SORRY I SHOULDN'T BE A BROKEN RECORD ON THIS. BUT THIS WOMAN NEEDS TO STOP HARASSING MY NEIGHBORS. I SHOULDN'T BE GETTING MESSAGES EVERY WEEK ABOUT NEIGHBORS BEING HARASSED BY THIS WOMAN. PLEASE TAKE CARE OF IT AND PLEASE BRING UP THE ARTIFICIAL TURF THING AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. THANK YOU. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER, STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. >> YES MY NAME IS WING HO AND THE PROPERTY AT 801 TANGELO DRIVE, BOYNTON BEACH. I WAS ALSO THE OWNER OF 1101, 1103 NORTH FEDERAL HIGHWAY AT BOYNTON BEACH UNTIL IT WAS TAKEN AWAY FROM ME WITHOUT ANY COMPENSATION IN 2022 BY THE CITY OF BOYNTON BEACH. THE CITY OF BOYNTON BEACH ON ONE SIDE SAID THAT I HAVE VIOLATIONS. I DON'T GET NOTICE AND DON'T KNOW ANY HEARING ON THAT MATTERS. IT SAID THAT I HAVE STRUCTURAL ISSUES. I HIRE LICENSED PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER. I PAY OVER $8,000 TO SUBMIT A REPORT AND IT'S SAID THAT IT'S SAFE. AND THEN I SPENT $5,000 ON AN ARCHITECT TO SUBMIT A PLAN FOR RENOVATIONS. BUT STILL, THEY HAVEN'T GOT ANYTHING -- HAVEN'T GOTTEN THE ANSWER BACK TO THOSE ISSUES BECAUSE WE KEEP ON TELLING THEM THAT IT'S SAFE. AND THEN THERE'S THIS ISSUE ABOUT -- IT'S A STRIP THAT WASN'T MAINTAINED BUT IT'S NOT MY LAWN. IT'S CITY LAWN. AND SO THE CITY SHOULD TAKE RESPONSIBILITY AND NOT US. AND THEN ALSO THE CLEANUP AND THE PROPERTY, THIS IS FLORIDA EAST COAST PROPERTY AND NOT MINE. I GOT SLAPPED WITH ALL THIS FINE. AND THEN THE LIEN. AND THE CITY GENERATE A BUNCH OF WHAT I CALL GARBAGE SHAM LIEN THAT DOESN'T HAVE THE PROPERTY DESCRIPTION ON IT, HAVE WRONG OWNER INFORMATIONS AND THEN A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER PROPERTY THAT WAS ALSO ON THE LIEN. AND THEN BASED ON THOSE SHAM LIENS, TOOK US -- TOOK ME IN 2019. BY THAT TIME, THEY SAY I PILE UP A LOT OF FINE OF OVER $1 MILLION. WHAT THE IDEA? I ALREADY PROVED THAT IT IS A SAFE PROPERTY. AND THEN $1 MILLION, I DIDN'T WANT ANYTHING ILLEGAL, NO TRAFFIC AND NO TRUCK DEALING. THE FINE IS $1 MILLION FINE. AT THIS POINT, MY PROPERTY IS TAKEN AND IT WAS DEMOLISHED. THE CONTENT WAS TAKEN. THIS IS MY RETIREMENT NEST EGG INVESTMENT FOR THAT PROPERTY. IT'S GONE. AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT RETURNED BACK TO ME AND I WOULD LIKE TO GET MY PROPERTY BACK AND ALSO THE COMPENSATION FOR THE PROPERTY AND SO THAT PLEASE DO THE RIGHT THINGS BECAUSE THIS IS TOTALLY UNJUST. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU. [TONE] ALL RIGHT. NEXT SPEAKER. >> 106 TORI OYER, BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA. HOW YOU ALREADY DOING? I WANTED TO DO A FOLLOW-UP ON THE MAYOR SAID HE WAS GOING TO DO A REVIEW ON THIS DUI CASE, YOU KNOW. WE ARE WAITING ON A RESPONSE BACK FROM THAT, THE COMMUNITY. WANTED IT KNOW IF WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO FIND OUT WHAT THE FINAL SAY ON THAT OR WHAT. AND WE ARE ALSO DOING -- MR. WOODROW, WE'RE DOING A BOOK BAG DRIVE TOMORROW AT THE CHURCH FROM 6:00 P.M. TO 8:00 P.M. IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE THE COMMISSIONER PASS OUT SOME BOOK BAGS TO THE KIDS IF YOU CAN. THIS WEEK HERE THE BULLDOGS PLAY AT THE HOUSE. AND THE DAIS SHOULD COME OUT AND SEE SOME OF THESE KIDS BECAUSE THEIR PARENTS VOTING FOR Y'ALL. AND THEY NEVER SEE Y'ALL, YOU KNOW. Y'ALL DID A GRAND OPENING OF THE PARK AT THE -- Y'ALL DID A GRAND OPENING AT 9:30 IN THE MORNING ON A TUESDAY, LIKE WHO IS IT FOR? IS IT FOR THE COMMUNITY OR FOR THE CITY OF BOYNTON BEACH? NOT THE CITY OF BOYNTON, BUT THE WORKERS OF BOYNTON BECAUSE IT WASN'T NOTHING BUT CITY COMMISSIONERS AND A FEW WORKERS FROM THE CITY. THAT WASN'T THE COMMUNITY. I THINK Y'ALL SHOULD DO A REOPEN TO THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE IT'S A COMMUNITY PARK. AND EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE THAT EXPERIENCE TO BE OUT THERE WITH THEM DOLPHIN CHEERLEADERS. THEY COULD HAVE BEEN 100 FEET AWAY. BUT Y'ALL STILL SHOULD HAVE LET THEM COME OUT THERE WITH THE MAYORS AND THE COMMISSIONERS AND THE CITY MANAGERS. THEY DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT IN THE COMMUNITY. ALL THEY KNOW ABOUT IS THE MAYOR. THEY DON'T KNOW THERE'S A CITY MANAGER. THEY DON'T KNOW THERE'S A CITY ATTORNEY. I KNOW. BUT, LIKE I SAID, YOU KNOW, I'M RUNNING FOR MAYOR AS WELL. AND I'M GOING TO DO IT WITH THE HELP OF THE PEOPLE. AND I BELIEVE I'VE GOT A CHANCE. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER, BEGIN WHEN YOU ARE READY. >> MY NAME IS KAREN HO AND I OWN SEVERAL PROPERTY IN THE CITY OF BOYNTON BEACH AREA. ONE EXAMPLE IS 1305 VEA DI PAPA BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA. THAT WAS MY HUSBAND WHO SAY THE CITY OF BOYNTON BEACH CODE ENFORCEMENT HAVE FILED SHAM LIENS AGAINST OUR PROPERTY WITHOUT NOTICE, WITHOUT SENDING US NOTICE, BUT ACCUMULATE $1,000 A DAY FINES. THEN IN 2019, THEY FILED FORECLOSURE. BUT IN THE FORECLOSURE, IN THE DOCUMENT, IT SAYS THEY ONLY WANT NON-MONETARY DECORATIVE TURF OR INJUNCTIVE RELIEF. THAT IS NOT FORECLOSURE. I FOUND OUT LATER ON DOING A PROPER SEARCH, MY ADDRESS FOR THE COMMERCIAL BUILDING IS 1101, 1103 NORTH FEDERAL HIGHWAY. THEN 1102, 1104 CITY OF BOYNTON BEACH HAD PURCHASED $868,958. THEN IT WAS SOLD BY FORMER MAYOR STEVE GRANT ON HIS LAST DAY DOING A SALE FOR $324,000. SO CITY OF BOYNTON BEACH MISSING 526,858 DISTRICTS. SO WHERE YOU FIND THE MONEY FROM? IT'S FRAMING ON US BY USING THE 2016 LIEN THAT TRY TO FORECLOSE ON 2019. I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND THIS SCAM. THIS IS SHAM. THE CITY OF BOYNTON BEACH ARE USING THAT ATTORNEY CALL HEATHER NEEDLEMAN, HEATHER NEEDLEMAN IS THE ONE WHO FILED THE QUITCLAIM DEED HAVING THE FORMER MAYOR OWNS THE PROPERTY IN A WAY HE THINKS HE OWNS IT AND SOLD IT. THE CITY OF BOYNTON BEACH HAVE A MISSING DOLLAR AMOUNT. AND USING MY SAYING I OWE $1 MILLION TO THE CITY OF BOYNTON BEACH. FRAMILY US. THEY ALSO WENT INSIDE THE BUILDING BEFORE WRIT OF POSSESSION WHICH IS FOURTH AMENDMENT VIOLATION AND FIFTH AMENDMENT AND 14th AMENDMENT VIOLATIONS. OKAY. MY TIME IS UP. AND I HOPE THAT MY PROPERTY GET RETURNED. AND INSIDE CONTENT INCLUDING MY TAX RETURNS AND ALL THE INVENTORIES AND MY FAMILY TREASURES. I USE IT AS A STORAGE FOR THAT BUILDING. I WOULDN'T PUT ANYTHING DOWN IN THERE IF I DON'T THINK IT'S SAFE, BUT APPARENTLY IT'S NOT SAFE WITH THE CITY OF BOYNTON BEACH. [TONE] THANK YOU. >> MAYOR: ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER, STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD AND BEGIN WHEN YOU ARE READY. >> MY NAME IS TEVIN ALI, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS. I'M A LONG-TIME RESIDENT OF BOYNTON BEACH. I'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU TODAY CHILDREN'S BOOK THAT I PUBLISHED THIS PAST WEEKEND. I JUST WOULD LIKE TO GIVE YOU A SHORT BACKSTORY OF THE BOOK. MY PARENTS IMMIGRATED HERE TO PALM BEACH COUNTY, SPECIFICALLY HERE TO THE CITY OF BOYNTON BEACH FROM TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO IN 1994 TO GIVE ME AND MY BROTHER AN EDUCATION HERE IN THE UNITED STATES. I GREW UP GOING TO BOYNTON BEACH SCHOOLS HERE SUCH AS GALAXY ELEMENTARY, CROSSPOINTE ELEMENTARY AND CONGRESS MIDDLE SCHOOL. GROWING UP HERE, MY DAD WOULD TAKE ME TO THE CITY OF BOYNTON BEACH LIBRARY, OF COURSE, BEFORE IT WAS REMODELED TO LAY A FOUNDATION TO GIVE HIS KIDS AN EDUCATION. AND WE BOTH WENT ON TO GET OUR BACHELOR'S DEGREE FROM FLORIDA ATLANTIC UNIVERSITY. MY BROTHER GOT HIS MASTER'S DEGREE AT FAU AND I GOT MINE FROM JOHNS HOPKINS. I WORK WITH PALM BEACH COUNTY AND MY BROTHER WORKS FOR THE STATE. IT IS REALLY DUE TO MY MOTHER AND FATHER REALLY HAVING US -- BROUGHT US UP IN EDUCATION. MY FATHER UNEXPECTEDLY PASSED AWAY CHRISTMAS DAY OF 2022. BUT HIM AND MY MOTHER AND MY GRANDMOTHER BUILT A LIFE HERE WORKING MINIMUM WAGE JOBS. I COWROTE A CHILDREN'S BOOK TITLED "AMBITIOUS ARCHIE" HONORING THE AMBITION THAT HE HAD THAT NOT ONLY BETTERED MY LIFE BUT HIS FAMILY AND FRIENDS AND THE COMMUNITY. THIS BOOK WAS WRITTEN RIGHT HERE IN BOYNTON BEACH. AND THIS BOOK HAS THEMES OF LEGACY, AMBITION, COPING WITH FAILURE, HARD WORK, EMPATHY AND GRIEF. THEY ARE THOUGHTFULLY CRAFTED INTO THIS BOOK TO PROVIDE VALUABLE LESSONS FOR YOUNG READERS, HELPING THEM NAVIGATE THEIR OWN CHALLENGES TO DEVELOP A RESILIENT AND COMPASSIONATE MINDSET. SO THE STORY REALLY FOLLOWS MY FATHER AS A FICTIONAL CHARACTER AND HOW HE SET AN EXAMPLE FOR HIS FAMILY AND FRIENDS IN THE COMMUNITY. AND FRIENDS IN THE COMMUNITY. THE BOOK WAS LAUNCHED THIS WEEKEND. MAYOR PENSERGA ATTENDED THE LAUNCH. WITHIN 24 HOURS OF THE LAUNCH OF THE BOOK, BECAME NUMBER ONE ON AMAZON. I HOPE THIS BOOK CONTINUES TO REACH THE HANDS OF YOUNG READERS AND BOOK LOVERS TO SPARK CONVERSATIONS AND TOPICS AND THEMES. I BROUGHT A BOOK FOR EACH ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS. I WANT TO SHARE THIS MISSION BEFORE OUR YOUTH. PARTICULARLY GROWING UP HERE IN BOYNTON BEACH. THANK YOU. >> MAYOR: GIVE IT TO THE CITY CLERK. THANK YOU SO MUCH, KEVIN. NEXT SPEAKER. COMMISSIONER, DO YOU WANT TO CHIME IN? >> I WANTED TO BRING UP, IS THERE ANYWAY WE COULD MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT AT THE NEXT MEETING TO TALK ABOUT THE BOOK FOR THIS BOYNTON BEACH RESIDENT WHO WROTE A BOOK ABOUT THE STORIES WITHIN THE CITY, AND JUST MAKE IT PART OF THE ANNOUNCEMENT, AND THAT WAY WE CAN SEE IF WE CAN POTENTIALLY ADD IT TO OUR COLLECTION AT THE BOYNTON BEACH LIBRARY. I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT TO SUPPORT ONE OF OUR LOCAL RESIDENTS. >> MAYOR: GOOD IDEA, ESPECIALLY THE LIBRARY, BECAUSE HE'S ONE OF OUR OWN AND LET'S SHOWCASE THAT. THAT'S GREAT. LET'S KEEP GOING TO THE NEXT PUBLIC SPEAKER. STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. >> WESLEY SHULA. THREE ISSUES. MY COUSIN GAVE ME A CALL, AND HE HAS A FULL TRUCK, AND HE'S LICENSED BY THE STATE. HE TOLD ME SPECIFICALLY, AND I CAME DOWN. BOYNTON POLICE -- I'M GOING TO SAY IT AGAIN, BOYNTON POLICE SPECIFICALLY CAME IN THE YARD AND TOLD HIM HE COULDN'T SERVE FOOD. THEY SHUT HIM DOWN TWICE. THEY CAME BACK TWICE. THEN THEY CAME BACK THIS WEEK WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT. I COULD PIGGYBACK OFF WHAT THEY'RE SAYING ABOUT CODE ENFORCEMENT, CODE ENFORCEMENT IS OUT OF CONTROL, MAYOR. YOU NEED TO DO AN INVESTIGATION ON THE STAFF AND THE CODE ENFORCEMENT ITSELF. THIS IN DISTRICT 2. FOR THE RECORD, 2. NORTHEAST 13th AVENUE. THIS IS RIDICULOUS. THIS IS UNCALLED FOR. AND FOR THEM TO DO THE WORK, SAYING THEY CAN SHUT DOWN SOMEBODY, THE POLICE OFFICERS, WHAT DO THEY HAVE THAT -- A RIGHT TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND THEN THEY TURN AROUND, THE CRA CALLED THEM, AND ASKED THEM TO BE AT THE EVENT YOU'RE ALL HAVING IN BOYNTON. AND HE SPECIFICALLY TRYING TO SEE IF HE WANTS TO BE INVOLVED IN THIS HE'S FROM BOYNTON BEACH, BUT STUFF LIKE THIS IS UNCALLED FOR. YOU ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO DO THE RIGHT THING, BUT THEN YOU GOT THESE POLICE OFFICERS THINKING THAT THEY THE LAW, ALL THE WAY THROUGH CODE ENFORCEMENT, AND THEN BRINGING CODE ENFORCEMENT TO DO A JOB TO SHUT DOWN SOMEBODY, THAT'S UNCALLED FOR. AND THEN THE SECOND THING, WHERE'S THE INVESTIGATION ON THIS DUI? THE COMMUNITY WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT THAT, AND THE THIRD THING. WHERE IS THE INVESTIGATION ON THE HR THAT GOT FIRED. I WANT ANSWERS, PLEASE. >> MAYOR: ARE THERE ANY OTHER IN PERSON PUBLIC COMMENT SPEAKERS. SEEING NO ONE ELSE, WE'RE GOING TO GO TO THOSE ON LINE. I SEE NO ONE ONLINE. WITH THAT PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE NOW CLOSED. OH, THERE ARE? I'M ON THE WRONG TAB. OKAY. WE HAVE A MIKE TAYLOR, I.T., IF YOU COULD PLEASE UNMUTE THE PERSON, AND TO MR. TAYLOR, I'LL LET YOU KNOW WHEN YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS REMAINING, SINCE I KNOW YOU CAN'T SEE OUR TIMER. >> I'M READY, MY NAME IS MICHAEL TAYLOR, I'M FROM PORT ST. LUCIE, FLORIDA. I HAVE SPOKEN I BELIEVE THREE TIMES ABOUT THE -- I BELIEVE THERE'S AN ORDINANCE IN BOYNTON BEACH. I HAVE A YOUTUBE CHANNEL, IT'S CALLED THE ARMED FISHERMAN, THEARMEDFISHERMAN. THAT IS MY EMAIL AT GMAIL.COM. I SAID IT BEFORE, PLEASE REACH OUT TO ME ABOUT THIS ORDINANCE. THE ONE THING ABOUT THIS, ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT CAME THERE WAS JEFF GRAY. HIS NAME ON YOUTUBE -- HE HAD A HELP THE HOMELESS VETS SIGN. THEY TRIED TO RUN HIM OFF. HE WON A $55,000 LAWSUIT BECAUSE OF ORDINANCES JUST LIKE WHAT YOU HAVE IN BOYNTON. AND I'M NOT -- I'M TRYING TO SAY, I'M SUGGESTING THAT PLEASE CONTACT ME BECAUSE UNDER CASE LAW, THE MAYOR AND THE ATTORNEY LOOK UP DAVID WARTROS VERSUS STATE OF FLORIDA. THIS IS EXTREMELY ABOUT THE FIRST AMENDMENT. AND THAT'S THE ONE THING ABOUT A LOT OF THESE COUNCIL MEETINGS, IS THAT I'M STARTING TO NOTICE THAT THE FIRST AMENDMENT SEEMS TO BE AN ISSUE FOR A LOT OF COUNCIL MEETINGS. I'VE BEEN TO THE CLEARWATER ONES, I'VE BEEN TO PALM BEACH, WEST PALM BEACH, I'VE BEEN TO -- THERE'S PROBABLY 10 OR 15 COUNCIL MEETINGS I'VE ATTENDED. WHETHER IT'S IN THE CITY OR AT THE COUNCIL MEETINGS, THE FIRST AMENDMENT SEEMS TO BE A BIG ISSUE. AND EVERY ONE OF YOU, WHEN YOU GOT ELECTED, PUT YOUR HAND UP, SAID, I SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT I WILL UPHOLD AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION, THE FLORIDA CONSTITUTION AND THE LAWS THEREOF. AND I'M REALLY HOPING THAT SOMEBODY WILL REACH OUT TO ME AND LET'S HAVE A TALK ABOUT THIS, BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT -- IT'S NOT ABOUT ME, IT'S NOT ABOUT JEFF GRAY, IT'S ABOUT THE RESIDENT AND THE COMMUNITY. IF THERE ARE PEOPLE SUFFERING, THEY'RE SAYING, HEY, YOU HAVE -- >> MAYOR: 30 SECONDS. >> IF YOU HAVE AN EXTRA DOLLAR, THAT'S WHAT THIS CASE LAW IS ALL BASED ON, IT'S A GENERAL CONTRIBUTION OF FUNDS FOR SOMEBODY THAT'S LESS FORTUNATE THAN SOME OF US, THAN SOME OF YOU ON THAT DAIS. I HOPE YOU CAN REACH OUT TO ME, AND I HOPE WE CAN HAVE A SERIOUS CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS. THANK YOU. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU. DOUBLE CHECKING, SEEING NO ONE ELSE ONLINE, WE'RE MOVING ON TO ADMINISTRATIVE. THE FIRST ITEM UNDER ADMINISTRATIVE IS CITY BOARD OF APPOINTMENTS. WE HAVE NO APPLICANTS BUILDING ADJUSTMENTS AND APPEALS, WE SEVERAL OPEN HERE. EDUCATION ADVISORY BOARD, WE HAVE AN OPENING. HISTORIC RESOURCES PRESERVATION BOARD, WE HAVE ONE APPLICANT. THIS NOMINATION GOES TO COMMISSIONER TURKIN, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A NOMINATION. >> YEAH, I HAD A REALLY GOOD CONVERSATION WITH ANDREA RODRIGUEZ, VERY BRIGHT YOUNG WOMAN AND I'M HAPPY TO NOMINATE HER. >> MAYOR: IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> MAYOR: ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE. >> MAYOR: THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THE LIBRARY BOARD HAS SEVERAL OPENINGS WITH NO APPLICANTS. THE RECREATION PARTS BOARD, LIKE SIMILAR SITUATIONS. THE SENIOR ADVISORY BOARD, COMMISSIONER CRUZ, IT IS YOUR APPOINTMENT. WE HAVE ONE APPLICANT. LOUISE FERRELL. >> I WOULD LIKE TO APPOINT LOUISE FERRELL TO THE ADVISORY BOARD. >> SECOND. >> MAYOR: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE. >> MAYOR: ANYONE OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THAT CONCLUDES THAT ITEM. THERE WERE TWO OTHER ITEMS I ASKED FOR THIS BOARD TO CONSIDER. THE FIRST ONE IS AN ALLOCATION OF MY COMMUNITY SUPPORT FUNDS, I HAVE NOT EXPENDED ANY OF IT. I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION THE ORGANIZATIONS I'D LIKE TO CONTRIBUTE TO AND THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS, IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT WITH EVERYBODY. OKAY? THESE ORGANIZATIONS ARE ORGANIZATIONS YOU'VE HEARD OF, I AM EQUALLY ALLOCATING THE $6,000 I HAVE IN MY FUNDS, THE FIRST IS THE GIRL SCOUTS, I THINK YOU GAVE TO THEM PREVIOUSLY, THE EAST BOYNTON LITTLE LEAGUE. THEY HAVE A BACK TO SCHOOL DRIVE. EXCEL, A MENTORING PROGRAM. BOYNTON BEACH BULLDOGS, HEALHE HEALTHIER BOYNTON BEACH. RHONDA'S PROMISE. AND THE INNERCITY YOUTH GOLFER'S ASSOCIATION. DISTRIBUTING EQUAL AMOUNTS OF $500 EACH TO THOSE ORGANIZATIONS. IS THERE ANY OBJECTIONS? >> NO. >> MOTION TO APPROVE FROM ANYONE? >> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND. >> MAYOR: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. >> AYE. >> MAYOR -- I'M SORRY, WE NEED TO DOUBLE CHECK THE RULE WITH REGARD TO DONATING ALL -- THE WHOLE 6,000 -- >> MAYOR: I GOT A NUMBS UP -- >> IT'S WITHIN AN ELECTION YEAR. IF IT'S BEFORE AN ELECTION, IF YOU'RE UP FOR LE ELECTION. ONCE I SPENT MY 6,000, I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SPEND THE WHOLE THING. >> MAYOR: I'M SORRY, I'M CONFUSED, IS THERE A SITUATION? >> I KNOW THERE WAS DISCUSSION, I DON'T KNOW THE RULE -- I KNOW WHEN YOU'RE -- THIS COMMISSION PUT IN SOME RULES, IF THERE'S AN -- SOMEONE ON THE DAIS IS GOING TO BE OFF THAT THEY WOULDN'T EXPEND ALL THEIR FUNDS, SO THE NEXT CANDIDATE WOULD -- >> THAT WOULD START THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR. >> MAYOR: WRONG FISCAL YEAR, THIS IS FROM THE PRIOR YEAR, FOLKS. WERE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? >> AYE. >> MAYOR: ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. COULD WE CONSIDER RESCHEDULING AUGUST 20th, I HAVE A PERSONAL SITUATION I CANNOT BE HERE FOR AND CANNOT MISS. I SPOKE TO THE STAFF, WHAT THE SITUATION WAS WITH THE AGENDA, THEY MENTIONED IT WOULD BE A LIGHT AGENDA. ULTIMATELY, IT IS THE MAJORITY WILL, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I OFFEREDS AND BROUGHT UP THAT YOU HAVE DISCUSSION. THE DATES WERE AUGUST 20th, SO WE COULD EITHER -- FROM STAFF'S CONVERSATION WITH ME EARLIER TODAY, WE COULD COMBINE IT WITH SEPTEMBER 3rd OR RESCHEDULE IT TO A FUTURE DATE LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, AUGUST 27th. BUT WE NEEDED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE, GAUGE YOUR THOUGHTS. IF THE MAJORITY ISN'T COMFORTABLE, I'LL CONSIDER THAT TOO. >> I WOULD NOT BE IN FAVOR OF COMPLETELY CANCELLING A MEETING, I WOULD PREFER TO RESCHEDULE IF POSSIBLE, IF THE BOARD AGREES. SOMETIMES, EVEN THOUGH THE AGENDAS ARE GETTING SMALLER IN THEORY, WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS ON CONSENT. AND OUR CONSENT IS GETTING LONGER AND LONGER. THESE ARE STILL THINGS WE'RE VOTING ON, WE NEED TO LOOK AT, AND THEY'RE VERY TIME-CONSUMING. I WOULD SAY, LET'S TRY TO HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE MEETING. I WOULD SUGGEST THE 27th IF THE BOARD AGREES, IT'S UP TO THE BOARD. >> MAYOR: ANY THOUGHTS EITHER WAY? WHOEVER'S READY. >> I WILL BE HERE, I DON'T HAVE A CONFLICT, I DON'T KNOW IF MAYOR THERE'S PARTICULAR THINGS ON THE AGENDA YOU'RE WANTING TO BE PRESENT FOR AND THAT'S WHY YOU'RE ASKING TO RESCHEDULE. OTHERWISE WE WOULD JUST HAVE THE MEETING WITH THE FOUR OF US. >> MAYOR: I DON'T GET AN ADVANCE PREVIEW OF THE RAH AGENDA. I'M -- IT IS JUST A REQUEST, IT'S UP TO THE MAJORITY, I WANTED TO HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE, VICE MAYOR? >> NO. BUT IN THINKING, I MEAN, I WOULD RATHER GO FORWARD WITH THE MEETING, BUT AT THIS -- I WANTED TO REMIND STAFF AND THE COMMISSION THAT FLC CONFERENCE IS THE WEEK BEFORE. SO IT -- >> MAYOR: IT CAN'T BE EARLIER? >> THAT WOULD BE THE WEEK WE'D BE DOING OUR IN PERSON AGENDA REVIEW, ON THAT THURSDAY. I BELIEVE THERE ARE AT LEAST THREE, IF NOT FOUR OF US THAT WILL BE AT FLC THAT THURSDAY. WE HAVE AN AGENDA REVIEW GOING INTO THAT MEETING. I WANT TO BRING THAT TO STAFF'S ATTENTION TO. >> CAN YOU REMIND ME THE DATES OF THAT? >> I THINK IT'S THE 15th THROUGH THE 17th. >> THAT'S THE AGENDA REVIEW PERIOD, THE MEETING ISN'T UNTIL THE FOLLOWING WEEK. >> IT MAY BE BETTER TO MOVE IT TO THE 27th. IT WILL ALLOW US THE AGENDA REVIEW. WE WOULD HAVE TO RESCHEDULE AN AGENDA REVIEW ON TOP OF RESCHEDULING A MEETING. >> MAYOR: ANDREW, WITH THE SEPTEMBER 3rd MEETING, YOU WOULD BE DOING AGENDA REVIEW ON 29th. COMMISSION MEETING ON THE 27th. AND IT'S STARTING TO STACK UP A BUNCH OF MEETINGS. MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO KEEP THE MEETING ON THE 20th OR MERGE IT WITH SEPTEMBER 3rd. THERE ARE 15 CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. THERE ARE 3 ITEMS ON THE SEPTEMBER 3rd ITEM. >> LET'S LEAVE IT, AND WE'LL FIGURE OUT THE REVIEWS. >> I WOULD LIKE TO GET CONSENSUS, IF WE CAN MOVE THE AGENDA REVIEW TO THE 14th, WEDNESDAY, WOULD BE THE BEST DAY TO DO THAT. >> THAT'S FINE ON MY CALENDAR. >> MAYOR: THE AGENDA REVIEW NEEDS TO BE MOVED REGARDLESS? >> YES. >> MAYOR: GLAD WE'RE DISCUSSING IT ANYWAY. THOUGHTS FROM MY COLLEAGUES, ARE YOU OKAY WITH STICKING TO THE 20th? COMBINING IT WITH A FUTURE MEETING? IT'S UP TO YOU. COMMISSIONER HEY AND COMMISSIONER TURKIN. >> IF WE COMBINE IT WITH THE 3rd, HOW MANY OF US -- IS IT JUST YOU, MAYOR 1234. >> TO MY KNOWLEDGE, YES. THAT'S WHY IT'S ONLY -- >> WE'RE ONLY MISSING YOU? LET'S KEEP IT ON THE 20th. >> DO WE HAVE CONSENSUS TO MOVE THE IN PERSON REVIEW FROM THE 14th TO THE 15th. >> MAYOR: THE 14th IS A WEDNESDAY. >> WEDNESDAY EVENING AT 6:00. >> AGENDA WORKSHOP. WE'RE MOVING IT UP A DAY, BECAUSE WE'LL ALL BE AT FLC. >> MAYOR: HE'S JUST ASKING, INSTEAD OF DOING IT THURSDAY, DO IT ONE DAY EARLIER, ON WEDNESDAY. >> YES. THE THING IS, IT'S FLC, AND IT'S A ONCE A YEAR CONFERENCE. I'M FLEXIBLE, BUT I DON'T MIND TO -- YOU KNOW, TO AS COMMISSIONER KELLEY STATED EARLIER, KIND OF CONFLICTING ALL THESE MEETINGS ON TOP OF EACH OTHER. EVEN IF WE WERE TO HAVE A COMMISSION MEETING ON THE 27th AND THERE'S VERY FEW ITEMS TO BE HEARD, GUESS WHAT, WE GET TO GO HOME EARLY. IT'S NOTHING TERRIBLE. BUT KNOWING THAT WE HAVE TO GO TO THAT CONFERENCE, I KNOW SOME PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE GOING EARLIER. IT KIND OF MAKES THE WEEK A LITTLE BIT -- >> THE OTHER DATE WE WOULD HAVE IS THE 12th. >> WHICH IS THAT MONDAY? >> YES. >> THAT WOULD BE GOOD WITH ME. >> YOU'RE SUGGESTING BRINGING IT TO AUGUST 12th? PROBLEM WITH PUBLISHING, THEY NEED TO BE PUBLISHED AND WAR ALREADY AT THE 6th, THAT DOESN'T GIVE US ENOUGH TIME TO PUBLISH THE SECOND READING BEFORE THE 12th. >> MAYOR: ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THE AGENDA WORKSHOP? >> WHAT'S THE TIME FRAME IT NEEDS TO BE POSTED FOR THE ORDINANCE. >> I HAVE TO LOOK, IN ONE PLACE IT SAYS SEVEN DAYS, IN ANOTHER PLACE IT SAYS TEN DAYS. IT DEPENDS WHERE IT FALLS, UNDER THE LDRs OR GENERAL PUBLICATION. EITHER WAY, WE'RE SIX DAYS OUT, IT DOESN'T GIVE US TIME TO PUBLISH THE AGENDA. >> MAYOR: WE DON'T POST THE AGENDA UNTIL THE 13th. >> RIGHT. IF WE DID THE AGENDA RY -- AGA REVIEW FOR THE 12th FOR THE MEETING ON THE 13th. >> MAYOR: WE PUBLISH THE AGENDA ON THE 13th. >> THE AGENDA ITEMS TYPICALLY ARE NOT TO OUR OFFICES UNTIL THE 12th. ON THE 12th AND 13th ARE OUR CRUNCH DAYS TO GET THAT COMPLETED. THEY'RE NOT EVEN FINALIZED YET. >> IS THERE AN ISSUE WITH HAVING IT ON THE 27th TO GIVE TIME FOR THE ORDINANCE TO BE POSTED, THE FULL TEN DAYS OR SEVEN DAYS. >> CAN I SPEAK BEFORE WE -- >> YEAH. >> CAN WE FINISH THIS UP AND WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU, COMMISSIONER TURKIN. WHAT WAS THE LAST -- ARE YOU FINISHED? >> THANK YOU. I'M IN FAVOR OF LEAVING IT ON THE 20th, AND, I KNOW THAT -- IT SEEMS LIKE THE REAL ISSUE IS THE AGENDA WORKSHOP, MAYBE WE JUST DO A NORMAL AGENDA REVIEW THAT WEEK, PEOPLE CAN SCHEDULE AND WE CAN FOCUS ON ONE THING AT A TIME. COME SEPTEMBER, WE DO A HARD LAUNCH FOR THE AGENDA WORKSHOPS, I KNOW WE HAD TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES. MAYBE THAT'S THE SOLUTION TO MAKE EVERYTHING MORE SMOOTH. I FEEL LIKE WE'RE MAKING IT MUCH MORE COMPLICATED THAN IT NEEDS TO BE. IF THERE'S ANYTHING PRESSING FOR YOU, MAYOR, YOU CAN ASK STAFF TO POSTPONE THAT OR WHATEVER. I THINK THERE'S A PATHWAY WHERE EVERYONE WINS. >> MAYOR, THE OTHER OPTION MAY BE POSSIBLY THE 19th, TO DO A WORKSHOP. >> ON THAT MONDAY NIGHT BEFORE THE MEETING. >> AGENDA REVIEW WORKSHOP? >> AND THEN WE PUBLISH THAT EVENING. IT GIVES US 24 HOURS. >> I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THAT. I DON'T LIKE TO HAVE BACK TO BACK MEETINGS. >> MAYOR: AND IT DOESN'T GIVE A LOT OF TIME FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE THE UPDATED AGENDA. THAT'S TOO CLOSE. THAT'S MY OPINION. >> WE COULD PROBABLY JUST DO INDIVIDUAL ONES AND GO FROM THERE. >> OKAY. WE'LL DO THAT THIS TIME. >> MAYOR: THIS WAS A MORE INTERESTING CONVERSATION BECAUSE OF THE NLC CONFERENCE THAT POSED QUESTIONS ON THE ACTUAL AGENDA REVIEW WORKSHOP ITSELF, FORGET ME NOT BEING ON THE 20th. THE CONSENSUS IS, WE'RE GOING TO STICK WITH THE 20th, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO CONTINUE WITH YOUR ONE ON ONE AGENDA REVIEW MEETINGS FOR THIS PARTICULAR MEETING. WILL. >> RIGHT. >> MAYOR: JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT'S CLEAR. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY ITEMS MY COLLEAGUES WOULD LIKE TO PULL UNDER THE CONSENT AGENDA? ANY REQUESTS? GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE. >> I'D LIKE TO REQUEST 6 B AND C. MAERJ ANY OTHER REQUEST. HEARING NONE, MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REMAINDER OF THE CONSENT AGENDA? >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> MAYOR: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? >> AYE. >> MAYOR: OPPOSED? IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. LET'S ADDRESS THEM ONE AT A TIME. 6-B, AMEND THE GENERAL FUND. DID YOU WANT TO OPEN IT UP ANDREW? KEVIN. >> KEVIN RAMSEY. 6-B IS OUR LOCAL VENDORS FOR PRESSURE WASHING. THERE WAS A MISTAKE IN PUTTING THIS TOGETHER. WE ACTUALLY HAD ONE PERSON FROM BOYNTON BEACH AND TWO OUTSIDERS, THAT'S GOING TO -- THE DOLLARS WILL STAY THE SAME, I'M PRETTY SURE OF THAT, PRETTY CONFIDENT IN THAT. I HAVE SINCE NOTICED THAT MISSTEAK, I KNOW WE HAVE EIGHT VENDORS IN THE CITY OF BOYNTON BEACH THAT DO THIS WORK. IF WE'RE DOING AN OPEN BID, I THINK WE SHOULD DO A PREQUALIFYING BID FIRST WITH OUR LOCAL VENDORS, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT'S GOING TO WORK OUT, WE'D HATE TO SEE SOMEONE WITH A SMALL PRESSURE WASHER AND A SMALL TANK, IT COULD CAUSE DANGER. THAT'S 6-B. >> THANK YOU, KEVIN. AS I WAS REVIEWING THE BACKUP OF THIS AGENDA ITEM, I STARTED LOOKING AT IN SUN BIZ THE NAMES OF THE PROVIDERS, THERE'S ONE FROM THE CITY OF BOYNTON BEACH, THE OTHER TWO PROVIDERS, THE SECOND AND THIRD, THEY APPEAR TO BE INACTIVE IN SUNBRIZ, SO I DI HAVE CONCERNS WITH THAT. AS I SPOKE TO STAFF, WE'RE GOING TO THROW THOSE OUT AND OPEN UP FOR QUALIFICATIONS. FOR BOYNTON BEACH BUSINESSES, SPECIFICALLY, BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT EVEN WITHIN PALM BEACH COUNTY OR NEARBY COUNTIES, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT -- AS WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, WHEN WE DO -- WHEN WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO HAVE SMALLER BIDS AND SUCH, IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE -- AND TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT OUR BOYNTON BEACH BUSINESSES AND THAT ARE INSURED. THAT HAVE -- YOU KNOW THAT ARE SOLID BUSINESSES THAT HAVE BEEN IN BUSINESS, AND I DO THIS FOR A LIVING. SO ONE THING I WANTED TO REQUEST IS TO SEE IF WE COULD DO A MEETING TO HELP OUR BOYNTON BEACH BUSINESSES APPLY, AND LET THE COMMISSION KNOW IF THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. IF ANYONE KNOWS ANY BOYNTON BEACH BUSINESSES THAT MAY BE ABLE TO BENEFIT FROM APPLYING TO THIS, AND HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO GET THEIR FOOT IN THE DOOR TO DO BUSINESS WITH THE CITY, I THINK THERE'S NOTHING BETTER WE COULD DO FOR OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES THAN TO DO THAT. TO HAVE A STAFF MEMBER TEACH THEM HOW TO SUBMIT THE PAPERWORK, AND THAT SORT OF THING. I WOULD LOVE TO BE PRESENT AS WELL, TO SUPPORT THE LOCAL BUSINESSES. IF YOU CAN JUST LET US KNOW WHEN THAT WILL HAPPEN, AND THEN WE CAN KIND OF THROW OUT THE OTHER TWO VENDORS AND FOCUS ON BRINGING IN ALL BOYNTON BEACH BUSINESSES. >> THAT'S THE PLAN. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> MAYOR: VICE MAYOR? >> KEVIN, THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS, I HAD A MOMENT TO SPEAK TO WITH STAFF. AND I HAVE VOICED MY CONCERNS TO YOU AND I KNOW THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WILL ADDRESS BEFORE WE START MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS, AS FAR AS THE SIDEWALKS THAT WE DON'T OWN. AND SO I WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE, MY POSITION ON THAT, THAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE PROTECTING OUR RESIDENTS FROM ANY LIABILITY CONCERNS AS IT PERTAINS TO SIDEWALKS THAT ARE NOT OUR RESPONSIBILITY. SO I AM ALL FOR BEAUTIFICATION AND MAKING SURE THAT THE CITY IS BEAUTIFUL. BUT I DON'T WANT TO PUT THE RESIDENTS AND THE CITY, MAKE THEM LIABLE FOR SOMETHING WE SHOULD NOT BE LIABLE FOR. THAT'S SOMETHING I'M VERY STRONG ABOUT. I DID HAVE A CHANCE -- THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CRUZ FOR MENTIONING THE ADDRESSES AND THE BACKUPS, I HAD A MOMENT ONCE WE GOT THE THINGS TO -- I -- SUNBIZ IS MY LIFE IN MY FULL TIME JOB, SO THINK SEEM TO BE COMPANIES THAT ARE LOCAL, THE ONE IN DELRAY HAS AN ACTIVE LICENSE, BEFORE WE SHOOT THEM DOWN, JUST ASK THEM TO PROVIDE US WITH THEIR CORRECT CORPORATE DOCUMENTS. MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE DO AS PART OF OUR VETTING PROCESSES, WE GET THEIR CORPORATE DOCUMENTS, CONFIRMING THEY'RE AN ACTIVE CORPORATION. SOMETIMES THEY WORK UNDER FICTITIOUS NAMES AND IT'S NOT ALWAYS CRYSTAL CLEAR, THEY DON'T SAY, WE'RE EXTREME POWER WASH OR -- IT'S HE EASY TO FIND. BEFORE WE TOTALLY X THEM OUT OFF OF ALL OF OUR LISTS FROM DOING BUSINESS IN THE CITY, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GIVING THEM A PROPER OPPORTUNITY TO CURE ANY ISSUE THAT THERE MAY BE -- DISCREPANCY THAT MAY BE IN THEIR RECORD, THAT -- THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS ON THAT, OTHERWISE, I'M EXCITED TO SEE THIS MOVE FORWARD ON THE CITY SIDEWALKS, AND I THINK IT'S BUN OF THOSE THINGS WHERE I THINK IT MAKES US AWARE OF TROUBLE AREAS WE MAY NOT FOCUS ON. ANOTHER THING THAT I SPOKE TO STAFF ABOUT IS, HOW WE CAN UTILIZE THE VENDORS TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY TO REPORT BACK TO US WITH ISSUES. THE LAST THING I WANT TO DO IS PRESSURE WASHING COMPANIES GOING OUT AND DOING GREAT WORK, BEAUTIFYING THE CITY, AND THEY DON'T REPORT BACK TO US, AND THEN HERE WE'RE ON NOTICE THAT THERE WAS AN ISSUE WITH THE SIDEWALKS, BECAUSE WE WENT OUT AND PRESSURE WASHED THEM AND WE DIDN'T REPAIR THEM. WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT MOVING FORWARD WE'RE DOING THIS GREAT THING. BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT -- WE'RE PROTECTING OURSELVES AS WELL. SO THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY DON'T GET LOST IN THE SHUFFLE. I KNOW WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT -- WHERE -- AS FAR AS NOTICE AND REPORTING, AND HOW WE CAN ESTABLISH A RELATIONSHIP WITH THESE COMPANIES, SO THAT THEY'RE PROTECTING US AS WELL, AND THE RESIDENTS. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER HAY DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? >> NO. >> MAYOR: COMMISSIONER TURKIN? >> NO. I APPRECIATE THE SENTIMENT THAT WAS SPOKEN EARLIER. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE BEING FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE WITH ALL THE BIDS AND BEING COMPETITIVE IN PRICING, WHILE I ADMIRE THE LOCAL VENDOR PREFERENCE, IF WE HAVE A VENDOR THAT'S 40% OVER, SOMEONE THAT'S NOT OUT OF TOWN, IS THAT FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE? ARE WE DOING OUR BEST TO SPEND TAX DOLLARS WISELY? THAT'S WHEY THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT. I KNOW THERE WAS A SCOPE OF 5% OR SOMETHING THAT WE HAD LOOKED AT WHEN WE LOOKED AT LOCAL VENDORS, RIGHT? SO I THINK OBVIOUSLY, FIRST AND FOREMOST WE WANT TO BE LOCAL, EVEN MORE SO, WHY WOULD WE PAY 20, 30, 40% OVER FOR A BID? THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. WE'RE SCRAMBLING FOR PENNIES JUST TO GET ROADS PAVED THROUGHOUT THE CITY. SO TO GO SUBSTANTIALLY OVER BECAUSE OF A LOCAL PREFERENCE. YES, IT'S A GREAT SENTIMENT, ARE WE DOING MORE HARM THAN GOOD WITH THAT? I'M ALL FOR FOCUSING LOCAL AS LONG AS IT'S WITHIN REASON. I WANT TO SAY, THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS BROUGHT BEFORE US THAT SHOWED -- IF IT'S WITHIN 5%, WE'LL CHOSE THE LOCAL VENDORS, THAT'S SOMETHING I'M OKAY WITH, ABOVE THAT, I DON'T THINK IT'S FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE. ALL RIGHT, SURE. >> I JUST WANT TO RESPOND FOR THE RECORD, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO -- I HOPE THAT'S NOT -- TRYING TO UNDERMINE THE POSSIBILITY OF HAVING A BOYNTON BEACH BUSINESS AND SUPPORTING OUR BOYNTON BEACH BUSINESSES. NO ONE IS SAYING WE'RE GOING TO OVERPAY, THAT'S NEVER BEEN MENTIONED. WE HAVE A BUDGET, THE BUDGET IS 128,999 WITH AN 8% CONTINGENCY, THE DOLLAR AMOUNT IS THE SAME. IT WOULD GO OUT FOR REQUEST FOR KWAUF INDICATIONS, AND IT WOULD ALLOW A TON OF LOCAL BOYNTON BEACH BUSINESSES TO APPLY WITHIN THAT PRICE RANGE. THERE IS NO INCREASING COST, HOWEVER, WE WILL BE PROVIDING OPPORTUNITY FOR BUSINESSES THAT MIGHT BE STRUGGLING THAT ARE WITHIN OUR CITY AND KEEPING OUR DOLLARS HERE. IT'S NOT INCREASING THE COST IN ANYWAY SHAPE OR FORM, THE BUDGET IS STAYING THE SAME, IT'S JUST HELPING OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES. THANK YOU. >> YEAH, AND LIKE I SAID, I ADMIRE THAT, COMMISSIONER. I HOPE YOU DIDN'T MISINTERPRET WHAT I WAS SAYING, AND THIS IS -- DID WE EVER -- WAS THAT EVER BROUGHT BEFORE US? AND WE VOTED ON THAT, RIGHT? THAT WAS SOMETHING -- >> THE CITY HAS AN EXISTING LOCAL BUSINESS ORDINANCE, IT'S ON BIDS THAT ARE PUT IN, 5% OR 5,000 MAXIMUM. >> RIGHT. >> SO YOU CAN GIVE PREFERENCE TO A COMPETITIVE BID SITUATION. >> YEAH, THAT'S ALL I CARE ABOUT. >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, EVERYBODY. KEVIN, BEFORE YOU GO, I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE CLARITY IN THE DIRECTION WE'RE GIVING TO STAFF. COMMISSIONER CRUZ, YOU WERE THE ONE WHO INITIALLY BROUGHT THIS UP, MY UNDERSTANDING IS, YOU WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED FORWARD WITH -- RFQ? WHY DON'T YOU RESUMMARIZE. BEFORE WE USE A BUDGET AMENDMENT, WE PROVIDED THE NAMES OF THE VENDORS IN THERE, JUST TO ESTABLISH THE PRICING, THE COST VALUE. THE PROCUREMENT IS BEING DONE UNDER THE $50,000 TLHRESHOLD UNDER THE SIGNATURE AUTHORITY OF THE MANAGER. WE BROKE THIS PROJECT UP FROM DOING IT INTO SMALLER BITES, WE COULD ATTRACT SMALLER, LOCAL BUSINESSES, WHICH WE DID. WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING, TWO OF THE BUSINESSES THAT WERE NOT, OR THERE'S QUESTIONS. WE'LL VET THEM IF THEY'RE NOT PROPER, WE'LL PUSH THEM OUT TO BID, AND WE'LL LOOK FOR TWO ADDITIONAL QUOTES TO GET THREE QUOTES, AND WILL DO WHAT KEVIN MENTIONED, WHICH WAS A PREQUALIFICATION MEETING, SO THAT WE CAN ADVERTISE OR PUT IT OUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA, TO DO -- SO VENDORS COULD COME, GET PREQUALIFIED FOR THIS PARTICULAR QUOTE, THEY KNOW WHETHER THEY'D BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A QUOTE OR NOT. PREQUALIFY VENDORS SO THEY CAN KNOW HOW TO DO BUSINESS WITH THE CITY. >> AND HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU THINK THAT WILL ADD? PROBABLY ANOTHER 30 DAYS? TO PUT OUT A NOTICE AND HAVE THE INFORMATIONAL MEETING. THIS IS ALL ADMINISTRATIVE AFTER YOU GUYS APPROVE THE BUDGET AMENDMENT. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO IF WE CAN GET IT DONE IN TWO WEEKS, AND THE P.O. ISSUED, WE CAN STILL BE WITHIN 30 DAYS. >> AND YOU'LL LET US KNOW -- >> YES, WE'LL MAKE SURE WE FOLLOW THROUGH. WE WERE SUPPOSED TO DO THAT LAST TIME, WE SHOULD HAVE DONE IT, WE DIDN'T. WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT NOW, WE WILL. >> MAYOR: I LIKE WHAT I'M HEARING. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS? >> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND. >> MAYOR: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. >> AYE. >> MAYOR: OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THE NEXT ITEM HAS BEEN PULLED IS 6-C, PROPOSED RESOLUTION NUMBER R 24-165, REGARDING THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT ACTION PLAN. R.J.? TAKE IT AWAY. >> MAYOR AND VICE MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, THIS ITEM IS RELATED TO THE ACTION PLAN THAT WE SENT TO THE DEPARTMENT OF HOUSE AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT, IT'S CALLED THE -- THIS FISCAL YEAR IS THE THIRD YEAR ON A FIVE-YEAR CONSOLIDATED PLAN. THIS YEAR, THE CITY WILL RECEIVE $565,000, 144. I'LL PUT MY GLASSES ON HERE. SO ONCE AGAIN, THE CITY SEND THIS TO US TO GET THESE FUNDS, WE GOT AN APPLICATION FROM DIFFERENT PUBLIC SECTOR. WENT OUT TO THE APPROPRIATE ORGANIZATIONS, THEN PROPOSAL WHERE SUBMITTED FROM THE PUBLIC SERVICE AREA IN THE PROPOSAL THAT WAS SUBMITTED FROM THE OTHER ACTIVITIES. WITH THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM, IT'S DIVIDED INTO THREE SECTIONS, ONE OF THEM IS 20%. THAT GOES TO PLANNING AND ADMINISTRATION. UP TO 50%, GOES TO THE PUBLIC SERVICES, WHICH HISTORICALLY HAS BEEN GIVEN TO A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION IN THE COMMUNITY TO PROVIDE THOSE PROGRAMS TO ASSIST INDIVIDUALS SUCH AS FINANCIAL LITERACY IS ONE OF THEM, ASSISTING HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS, ASSISTING THE ELDERLY IN THE COMMUNITY, ASSISTING VICTIM OF VIOLENCE IS ANOTHER ONE. AND THEN THE OTHER -- PART OF IT IS THE OTHER 65%, CAN BE UTILIZED FOR ACTIVITY -- ONE OF THEM IS HOUSING. HISTORICALLY HAS BEEN USED FOR HOUSING. ANOTHER THAT CAN BE UTILIZED IS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR INFRASTRUCTURE, FOR PUBLIC FACILITY AND IMPROVEMENT, COULD BE -- SO IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THE APPLICATION REVIEW IN THE RECOMMENDATIONS WE'RE GIVEN BASED ON THE MUCH NEEDED PROGRAM. ALL THE APPLICATIONS THAT WERE SUBMITTED WILL WORK, AND THEY'RE GOOD PROGRAMS YOU HAVE, ARE BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF FUNDING, UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAVE TO PICK THE ONE THAT NEEDED THE MOST, THE RECOMMENDATION THIS YEAR, I RECOMMEND TO FUND THE -- >> IS THERE A SLIDE THAT GOES ALONG WITH WHAT YOU'RE -- >> YES, SORRY ABOUT THAT. THE BOYNTON BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS A NEW INITIATIVE THAT IS TO ASSIST THE SHELTERED PERSON, THIS PROGRAM WILL ASSIST THE UNSHELTERED PERSON, WITH EMERGENCY SHELTER. SO IN THE RECENT PAST, THERE WAS A QUESTION, WHY DON'T WE UTILIZE THE SHELTER IN THE COUNTY ALREADY. THE COUNTIES ARE ALWAYS AT CAPACITY, WHEN WE HAVE THOSE PICTURES OF THE VIOLENCE THAT NEED THAT IMMEDIATE ASSISTANCE, THE CITY -- AND IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, POLICE OFFICERS HAVE TO REACT TO BE ABLE TO PUT THEM IN A SAFE PLACE, AND BE ABLE TO ALLOCATE THEM. THE FUNDING FOR THIS, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS SEARCHED FOR GRANTS. LAST YEAR, THEY GOT ABOUT $1800, WHICH IS ALMOST NOTHING, TO BE ABLE TO ASSIST THIS INDIVIDUAL. I'M PROPOSING, AND I TALKED TO THIS STATE, THROUGH THE CHIP PROGRAM, THE RAPID REHOUSING PROGRAM, IF WE CAN UTILIZE RAPID REHOUSING, FUNDS TO UTILIZE IT FOR HOTEL VOUCHER TO ASSIST THIS, I'M TALKING ABOUT HOMELESS OR THE VICTIMS OF THE CRIME. FOR HOTEL VOUCHERS, WAS DENIED FROM THE STATE. I REACHED OUT TO THE DEPARTMENT IN MIAMI, THEY TOLD ME, YES, I CAN USE THESE SERVICE, PART OF IT, AS LONG AS IT'S EMERGENCY. THESE ARE CONSIDERED EMERGENCY. I'M PROPOSING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS REQUESTING $70,000, TO ASSIST 70 INDIVIDUALS, ACCORDING TO A STATISTIC AND PHONE CALLS THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT GOT LAST YEAR, THEY GOT UP TO 1,000 PHONE CALLS A PERSON, WHERE THEY'RE RECORDING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. THE PERSON COULD POTENTIALLY BE ASSISTED THROUGH THIS PROGRAM. THAT'S THE FIRST ONE, THE SECOND ONE THAT WAS SELECTED FOR THE PUBLIC SECTOR AREA WAS THE LEGAL AIDE SOCIETY. IT PROVIDES HOUSING TO THE LOW INCOME COMMUNITY. WHEN THEY FACE DISCRIMINATION, ESPECIALLY THE DISABLED, STUFF LIKE THAT, FROM THEIR LANDLORDS. THE LEGAL AIDE SOCIETY IS PROPOSING TO ASSIST LOW INCOME INDIVIDUALS FOR THE AMOUNT OF $10,000. THIS IS A REQUIREMENT FOR THE CITY TO HAVE THE FAIR HOUSING ELEMENT, BECAUSE SOME OF THE GRANTSES REQUIRE FOR THE CITY TO HAVE THIS ELEMENT. ON THE OTHER -- 65%, SO I'M PROPOSING TO CONTINUE TO ASSIST THE LIMITED REHAB PROGRAM. THIS ONE IS TO BE ABLE TO ASSIST THE ELDERLY OR DISABLED INDIVIDUALS. THIS ASSISTED 26 INDIVIDUALS WITH WINDOWS, WITH ROOFS, ESPECIALLY THE ROOF, THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE THE INDIVIDUALS IN A VERY LIMITED INCOME, THAT CANNOT AFFORD TO PAY 35 TO $40,000 FOR THE ROOF. THIS ONE IS A VERY POPULAR PROGRAM FOR THE DISABLED HOMEOWNERS. RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE 12 APPLICANTS THAT ARE WAITING FOR THIS ON A WAITING LIST. THIS IS -- DONE THROUGH AN ORGANIZATION, IT'S CALLED THE BOYNTON BEACH CORPORATION, THAT IS -- THEY ARE REQUESTING $535,000. SO WE DON'T HAVE THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY. WE'RE REQUESTING FOR US TO GIVE THEM, 282,000 TO THIS ORGANIZATION. THE OTHER WIN IS TO BE ABLE TO USE $90,000 FOR THE 15 YEAR FIRM. THIS ONE WOULD GO TO PAY THE SALARY FOR THE CONSTRUCTION COORDINATOR, THAT THOSE -- ALL OF THE KEY ELEMENTS THAT GOES ALONG WITH THE REHABILITATION PROGRAM. THE LAST ONE, AS I MENTIONED IS THE OTHER 20% THAT GOES FOR PLANNING ADMINISTRATION, THAT PAYS FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEWS FOR THE -- TO BE ABLE TO RECORD THE MORTGAGE OF THE COLLARICAL, THE COURT, AND ALSO. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE FOR ME, THIS IS THE LAST SLIDE, IT'S GOING TO SHOW THE BREAKDOWN OF THE BUDGET. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTION YOU HAVE. P >> MAYOR: THANK YOU SO MUCH, R.J., I HAVE NO QUESTIONS AT THE MOMENT. COMMISSIONER CRUZ, YOU ARE THE ONE THAT PULLED THIS ITEM, SO I'LL GO BACK TO YOU. >> THANK YOU. CAN WE GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS SLIDE? >> YES, MA'AM. >> IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, I KNOW WE HAVE A COUPLE LOCAL NONPROFIT AGENCIES. ONE OF THEM IS THE BOYNTON CITY C, WHICH WE'RE SUPPORTING, WE'VE SUPPORTED IN THE PAST. THERE'S ANOTHER LOCAL NONPROFIT AGENCY, PATHWAY TO PROSPERITY, WHO WE SUPPORTED EVERY YEAR IN THE PAST THAT IS A BOYNTON BEACH NONPROFIT, TRYING TO TAKE PEOPLE OUT OF HOMELESSNESS, GETTING THEM JOBS AND TRAINING, TO MAKE SURE THEY DON'T COME BACK INTO HOMELESSNESS, I WANTED TO SEE, I WANTED TO REQUEST FOR THE BOARD TO CONSIDER ALLOCATING AN AMOUNT TO PATHWAY TO PROSPERITY, DO YOU HAPPEN TO REMEMBER WHAT THE AMOUNT WAS LAST YEAR, TO STAY CONSISTENTED. >> YES, MA'AM, WE ALLOCATED $35,000. >> OKAY. I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT WE PROVIDE $35,000 TO BE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR AND THE YEARS BEFORE. TO SUPPORT PEOPLE COMING OUT OF HOMELESSNESS, TO GET JOBS, TRAINING AND SUPPORT. I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT IN THERE, BUT I UNDERSTAND IT MIGHT CHANGE THE NUMBERS A LITTLE BIT, I WANTED TO -- AND SEE IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD DO. AND MAYBE WE COULD MOVE SOME FUNDS AROUND. SO THAT THE BOARD CAN CONSIDER THAT. >> THIS RECOMMENDATION, THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE, RECOMMENDATIONS TO CITY COMMISSIONS. THE FINAL DECISION IS ON THE CITY COMMISSION, SO WHATEVER THE CITY COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO DO, I JUST MADE THE CHANGES WITH THE DRAFT ACTION PLAN BEFORE I SUBMITTED TO HUD. >> GO AHEAD. >> JUST BECAUSE I MADE THAT REQUEST, I WANTED TO SEE IF I WOULD HAVE SUPPORT FOR THAT TO PROVIDE. WE HAVE A LOCAL NONPROFIT, WE'VE GIVEN THEM FUNDING IN THE PAST, EVERY YEAR ABOUT -- HE SAID ABOUT $35,000. SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE STAY CONSISTENT AND WE HELP, THE SAME WAY WE'RE HELPING A BOYNTON BEACH CDC. WE'RE HELPING TO SUPPORT PEOPLE COMING OUT OF HOMELESSNESS, AND GETTING SELF-SUFFICIENCY, BEING ABLE TO GET JOBS AND MAINTAINING THAT, GOING-FORWARD TO REALLY FOCUS ON ATTACKING THE ISSUE. AND THE CORE ISSUE, IN TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET PEOPLE OUT OF THAT, BECAUSE IT'S CHALLENGING, AND OBVIOUSLY WE NEED FUNDING FOR ALL OF IT. THERE'S SO MANY THINGS THAT WE NEED FUNDING FOR. I WISH WE HAD MORE MONEY. I WANTED TO REQUEST THAT I WANTED TO SEE IF WE HAD SUPPORT FOR THAT FROM THE BOARD. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. I SEE NO REASON TO BE AGAINST IT. I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA, WE'VE SUPPORTED THEM BEFORE, AS LONG AS THEY CONTINUE TO DO THE GOOD WORK, I DON'T SEE AN ISSUE WITH IT. HAPPY TO SUPPORT THAT. LET'S HEAR FROM OUR COLLEAGUES TO SEE IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, VICE MAYOR? >> I DID HAVE A QUESTION WITH REGARD TO THAT REQUEST, WHY -- IF WE HAVE ALLOCATED MONEY IN THE PAST, WAS THINK A DEFICIENCY, WAS THERE SOME REASON WHY WE HADN'T DONE IT THAT WAY, THAT WE HAD DONE IT BEFORE, ARE WE ASKING FOR SOMETHING THAT DIDN'T QUALIFY. MAYBE WHY IT WASN'T SELECTED OR WASN'T THIS TIME AROUND. ARE WE TRYING TO MIX THINGS UP. >> VICE MAYOR, THE WAY IT WORKS, IN THIS SELECTION OF APPLICATIONS, SO RECOMMITTED, REVIEWED THE APPLICATION, THEY GAVE SCORES, BASED ON THE BUDGET THE PROGRAM AND EVERYTHING ELSE. AFTER THAT, I SEE THEY NEED IT. THESE ARE ALL WELL WORKED PROJECTS. >> THEY PROVIDE THE FINANCIAL LITERACY TO THE COMMUNITY AND EVERYTHING ELSE. THIS INITIALLY HAS SO MUCH NEED OUT THERE. I'M GOING WITH THAT. IF I CAN TALK ABOUT THAT THERE IS -- LET ME -- GIVE YOU THE SCORE WHERE -- WE HAVE THE PUBLIC SERVICE -- IT WOULD -- OUT OF 200. THE BOYNTON BEACH DEPARTMENT, OUT OF A 200 SCORE, THEY GOT 182 THE VICTIM OF VIOLENCE, WE HAVE 176, AFTER THAT, WE HAVE 175 OUT OF 200, THEN WE GOT 174. THE SCORES HAVE VERY CLOSE, BUT ONE POINT MAKES A DIFFERENCE A LITTLE BIT. IF WE -- IF WE DESIGN TO FUND DISPARITY, THAT WOULD COME FROM THE PUBLIC SECTOR PORTION OF IT. WHICH MEANS THAT $35,000 PROGRAM WILL GET THE OTHER $35,000, THAT'S THE ROUTE THE COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO GO. >> THAT'S MY CONCERN, BECAUSE THEIR APPLICATION WAS NOT TOWARD REHOMING HOMELESS, WE CAN'T PUT IT IN THE BUCKET OR PULL FROM FAITH BASED DC, IT WOULD PULL FROM THE DIFFERENT BUDGET AND SO THAT'S MY KIND OF CONCERN. I'M ALWAYS WILLING TO SUPPORT OUR NOT FOR PROFITS. TRYING TO DO WORK. THAT'S MY CONCERN, IS THAT THE -- THE APPLICATION THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SET FORTH FOR THAT PROGRAM IS SO NEEDED, BECAUSE THERE'S NO OTHER FUNDING MECHANISM FOR WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO WITH VICTIMS OF CRIMES, AND GETTING THEM IMMEDIATE SAFE PLACE TO BE. I'M TORN, BECAUSE I BELIEVE IN SUPPORTING MULTIPLE NOT FOR PROFITS. IT'S COMING FROM THE MUCH SMALLER POT, BECAUSE OF THE WAY THEIR APPLICATION IS WRITTEN. THEY DON'T QUALIFY UNDER THE HOUSING BUDGET. >> UP TO 50% PUBLIC SERVICE THAT THE GRANTS ALLOW. >> LET ME OFFER A SUGGESTION, BECAUSE WE'RE STRUGGLING TO GIVE MONEY TO MULTIPLE CAUSES AND THAT'S GOOD WORK. EVERYBODY IS DESERVING, BUT THERE'S SO MANY DOLLARS TO GO AROUND. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW THIS OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD. I KNOW WE GET ANNUAL DONATIONS FROM CHRIST FELLOWSHIP. WHAT I'M TRYING TO IMAGINE HERE IS, IF YOU WERE TO SUPPORT PATHWAYS TO PROSPERITY, IS THERE A WAY TO SUPPLEMENT THAT FUND THAT WOULD BE TAKEN AWAY FROM THIS NEW PROGRAM. I'M TRYING TO LOOK FOR A SOLUTION, IS THERE ANY OTHER WAY TO DO THAT? OR ANY OTHER FUNDS THAT WE MAY HAVE. >> I'D HAVE TO LOOK TO SEE WHAT'S IN THOSE ACCOUNTS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S IN THE TOP OF MY HEAD, WE CALL THEM THE 691 ACCOUNTS, THE DONATION ACCOUNTS THE CITY HAS. THOSE COULD BE USED TO OFFSET THIS PARTICULAR ITEM. I DON'T KNOW THE BALANCE, WE'D HAVE TO GET THAT FUND BALANCE. >> THAT'S JUST A SUGGESTION, RIGHT? WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY HERE, WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO PULL OUR TEETH HERE. THERE'S A WAY TO COVER BOTH. >> RIGHT. >> IF WE GET A LITTLE CREATIVE. >> I AGREE. THOSE FUNDS HAVE BEEN USED BEFORE, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. JUST A THOUGHT. LET'S GO AROUND THE DAIS, COMMISSIONER HAY, YOUR THOUGHTS? >> YES. IN MY MIND, THAT DOESN'T REALLY JUSTIFY ELIMINATING THE PROGRAM THAT WE SUPPORTED LAST YEAR FOR A NEW PROGRAM FOR ANOTHER ENTITY. AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, THE RESEARCH THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE DOING TO SEE ABOUT THE FUNDING THAT YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO RECOVER AND PUT BACK INTO THAT FUND SHOULD BE TOWARD THIS NEW PROGRAM. WE SUPPORTED THEM BEFORE, LAST YEAR. UNLESS THEY CHANGED THE RULES. THE PATHWAY TO PROSPERITY IS ONE OF THE MOST ACTIVE AND SUPPORTIVE GROUPS, NOT ONLY IN FUNDING AND HELPING, BUT IN PERSONAL LABOR EFFORTS THAT THEY PUT IN THE PROGRAM WITH NO COST TO ANYBODY. I KNOW THE WORK THAT THEY DO AND I WOULD SUPPORT COMMISSIONER CRUZ' SUGGESTION 100%, WE SHOULD CONTINUE THEM AND DO THE RESEARCH TO SEE THAT WE CAN BACK LOAD THIS PROGRAM WITH THE WITH NEW CHRISTIAN FELLOWSHIP, CHRIST FELLOWSHIP, WHATEVER MEANS WE CAN FIND. NOT ELIMINATING PROJECT TO PROSPERITY. >> WHICHEVER WAY THE COMMISSION WANTS TO GO WITH THIS FUNDING. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER HAY, COMMISSIONER TURKIN? >> DO WE HAVE ANY UNUSED FUNDS FROM LAST FISCAL YEAR. ? I DON'T MIND, WE CAN PULL AWAY FROM IT A LITTLE BIT. I THINK THERE'S SOME WIGGLE ROOM THERE, I'M OKAY WITH THAT. >> SO BACK TO YOUR QUESTION, COMMISSIONER TURKIN, YOU JUST ASKED, DO WE HAVE ANY UNUSED FUNDS FROM LAST YEAR, SO THE CITY HAS SOMETHING THAT CANNOT BE USED FOR THESE PARTICULAR ITEMS, NONETHELESS, I WANT TO DISCLOSE THAT. THIS ITEM WILL BE COMING TO THE COMMISSION PRETTY SOON. THEY HAVE SOME LEFTOVERS THAT WERE NOT UTILIZED HOW WE SHAPE THAT FUNDING, BECAUSE A LOT OF LOCAL GOVERNMENTS WERE NOT ABLE TO USE THE FULL AMOUNTS, AND THEY'RE RUNNING INTO A PROBLEM THEY HAVE TO CAPTURE THOSE LET'S GO AHEAD AND DO SOMETHING. CALL IT A TIE BACK. WE CALL IT THE RESPONSE. I CANNOT REMEMBER THE OTHER ACRONYM THEY USE, THESE $123,000 I HAVE, WE'D BE ABLE TO ASSIST HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS. THAT'S GOING TO BE IN A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM, BECAUSE YOU ASKED THAT QUESTION. GOING BACK TO POWER TO PROSPERITY, ABSOLUTELY. YOU GIVE THEM THE $35,000, THEN WE'LL GIVE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR THE NEW INITIATIVE YOU DECIDE TO DO. >> SO WITH THIS ITEM BRINGING FORWARD, TO FULFILL WHAT COMMISSIONER CRUZ IS PREPARING? >> THAT'S JUST IT, THESE ITEMS YOURSELF IS TIME. IT'S SOMETHING CALLED A TIMELINESS, AND BASED ON TIMING, THE QUICK AROUND -- TURNAROUND I HAVE TO DO WITH FUNDING, WAS ON TO SOMETHING WITH THESE -- BACK IN 2021, THOSE WERE ABLE TO USE DO EMERGENCY RENTAL ASSISTANCE, FOR THE LOW INCOME COMMUNITY. I KNOW I CAN BE ABLE TO SPEND MONEY LIKE THAT, TO BE ABLE TO ASSIST AT LEAST 12 INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE BEHIND ON THE RENT, THE GOOD THING ABOUT THIS TOO, THIS PROGRAM DOESN'T JUST ALLOW THE RAPID REHOUSING PROGRAM, WHICH IS A VERY LOW THRESHOLD, ONLY FOR THE HOMELESS INDIVIDUAL. THIS ONE I CAN GO ALL THE WAY TO 80%P THE ONES IN BETWEEN, MAKING MORE MONEY TO THE 80%, THAT I CAN ASSIST WITH THIS $123,000. AT LEAST BE ABLE TO ASSIST MAYBE 12 INDIVIDUALS WITH SOME RENTAL ASSISTANCE. THAT WILL BE COMING TO YOU THE MONTH OF DECEMBER. >> I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE MENTIONING ABOUT -- THERE'S A TIME LINE. I THINK WE HAVE A WAY TO OFFSET IF WE WANT, CORRECT? >> ONCE AGAIN, THE FUNDS WE HAVE AVAILABLE EVERY YEAR, IS THE FUNDS WE GET BASED ON OUR LOCATION. WE GET THAT 50% PUBLIC SERVICE IS DETERMINED. IT DOESN'T GO ANYWHERE. WE GET BETWEEN 500, 565, DEPENDING ON CONGRESS. THAT UP TO 50% DOESN'T CHANGE WITH THE CDBG FUNDS, THERE ISN'T A TIME WHERE THERE WERE PLENTY OF FUNDS, AND THAT DOESN'T EXIST ANY MORE, WE ARE -- WHAT WE GET, THAT'S WHAT WE GIVE OUT. OTHER THAN THE $123,000 FROM COVID FUND. NOW TO SAY, LET'S TIE IT BACK TO COVID AND GET RID OF THOSE FUNDS, THAT'S WHERE THE LEFTOVER FUNDS TO BE ABLE TO TIE IT BACK TO COVID SOMEHOW BECAUSE THEY WANT TO GET RID OF THE MONEY. >> DID I HEAR YOU SAY, WE HAVE 1,000 PER YEAR OR PER MONTH? >> YES, AS A MATTER OF FACT I INVITED -- WE'RE ADMINISTERING THIS, TALKING TO HER ABOUT THAT AMOUNT. THE POLICE DEPARTMENT GIVES 1,000 PHONE CALLS THAT ARE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE RELATED. ACCORDING TO HER, THIS PHONE CALLS COULD USE THIS FUNDING TO BE ABLE TO HOUSE INDIVIDUALS INTO A SAFER PLACE, IN THE MEANTIME, WE FIND A SOLUTION FOR WHAT THE SITUATION IS. >> 1,000 PHONE CALLS, CAN YOU COME OVER? >>. >> IS,000 PER MONTH? >> PER YEAR. >> THAT'S A LOT. >> 1,000 PHONE CALLS -- >> HERE IN BOYNTON? >> YES. >> GOOD EVENING. >> WOW! >> WE LOOKED AT OUR LAST YEAR WORTH OF CALLS FOR SERVICE, SO IT'S ALL TYPES OF CALLS FOR SERVICE, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, DOMESTIC SERVICES, VICTIMS OF VIOLENT CRIME, WHICH INCLUDE ANYTHING FROM ROBBERIES, BURGLARIES, CARJACKINGS, HOME INVASIONS, IT'S ALL OF THOSE TYPES OF CALLS WHERE PEOPLE CAN'T STAY IN THEIR HOME OUT OF FEAR, OUT OF POSSIBLE FUTURE HURT. AND WE -- IT'S IMPOSSIBLE FOR US TO PUT THEM IN SAFE LOCATIONS, WHAT WE HAVE IN THE COUNTY ARE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SHELTERS. IF I HAD A VICTIM THAT WAS WILL ASSAULTED IN HER HOME, AND SHE DOESN'T WANT TO RETURN TO THAT HOME BECAUSE THAT'S THE PLACE OF THEIR ASSAULT, I HAVE NOWHERE TO PUT THEM IN THE COUNTY. MY OFFICERS HAVE PAID OUT OF POCKET TO PUT THEM IN PLACES. THEY'RE NOT SAFE IN THEIR OWN HOME UNTIL WE CAN GET THEM SOMEWHERE SAFE. >>. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT INFORMATION. HOW DO YOU COUNT -- IF YOU HAVE A MOTHER WITH 10 KIDS. >> YES. >> IS THAT 11 OR IS THAT 1? >> NO, IT'S PER PERSON. IT'S A FAMILY -- THAT'S A FAMILY UNIT OF 10 PEOPLE. WE HAVE AN INTACT FAMILY OF 11, IT'S A MOTHER, FATHER AND 9 CHILDREN. >> THE 1,000 YOU'RE QUOTING ARE FAMILIES? >> THOSE ARE CALLS FOR SERVICE, NOT INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE. THOSE ARE INDIVIDUAL CALLS FOR SERVICE. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH EVERYBODY. WITH ALL THESE DISCUSSIONS WE'VE HAD, MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? >> AS R.J. MENTIONED BEFORE, AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR EXPLAINING. ARE YOU STILL OKAY WITH WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER? >> MAKING THE MOTION? >> I'M WAITING FOR A MOTION HERE. >> MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 6-C WITH $35,000 GOING TO PATHWAY FOR PROSPERITY, WHICH WILL ALLOW THE OTHER AMOUNT TO UTILIZE FOR OTHER PURPOSES. >> MAYOR: WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT STAFF IS GOING TO EXPLORE OTHER FUNDING WILL OPTIONS. >> RIGHT. >> I SECOND. >> MAYOR: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, SAY AYE. >> AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON TO THE NEXT SECTION. THANK YOU SO MUCH, EVERYBODY. CONSENT BIDS AND PURCHASES OVER $100,000. ANYTHING MY COLLEAGUES WOULD LIKE TO PULL IT IN THIS SECTION? >> NO. >> MAYOR: MAY I HAVE A MOTION. >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> MAYOR: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE. >> MAYOR: OPPOSED SAY NO. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE'RE MOVING ON TO PUBLIC HEARING, WE HAVE A PROPOSED ORDINANCE, LET ME TURN TO COUNCIL AND THE CITY CLERK TO BEGIN THE PROCESS. THIS IS 8-A. >> WE'RE GOING TO GO AND SWEAR ANYONE IN IN REGARDS TO 8-A OR B. >> IF YOU ARE HERE TO GIVE TESTIMONY REGARDING PUBLIC HEARING 8 A OR B, PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND TO BE SWORN IN. THANK YOU MUCH. [ SWEARING-IN ] >> MAYOR: CITY CLERK? >> 8-A IS PROPOSED ORDINANCE, 24-13, SECOND READING, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA, AMENDING ARTICLE 3 OF CHAPTER 18 OF THE BOYNTON BEACH CODE OF ORDINANCES, ENTITLED MUNICIPAL POLICE OFFICERS RETIREMENT TRUST FUND AMENDING SECTION 18-165 TO ADD 20 YEAR RETIREMENT FOR MEMBERS THE HIRED AFTER OCTOBER 1, 2019, AMENDING SECTION 18-174, TO UPDATE REQUIRED MINIMUM, DISTRIBUTION AGE IN COMPLIANCE WITH SECURE ACT 2.0 CHANGES, AND AMENDING SECTION 18-175 DEFERRED RETIREMENT OPTION PLAN TO REFLECT CHANGE IN DEFINITION OF COMPENSATION OR SALARY. WILL >> MAYOR: DO MY COLLEAGUES WANT TO HEAR ANYTHING FROM STAFF ON THIS? I KNOW WE HAVE THE CHIEF AVAILABLE. OKAY, WITH THAT, LET'S GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT. IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK SPECIFICALLY ON THIS ITEM, THE ORDINANCE, NOW IS THE TIME TO APPROACH THE PODIUM. SEEING NO ONE IN THE ROOM, IS ANYONE ONLINE? I SEE NO ONE ONLINE. WILL THIS ITEM IS CLOSED. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE 8-A. >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> COMMISSIONER HAY? >> AYE. >> COMMISSIONER TURKIN? >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER CRUZ? >> YES. >> VICE MAYOR KEL HELY? >> YES. >> MAYOR PENSERGA? >> YES. >> IN A ROLL CALL VOTE, THE MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. >> MAYOR: MOVING ON TO 8-B. >> PROPOSED ORDINANCE 24-014 FIRST READING, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA, AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 89-38 BY AMENDING THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF THE CITY OF BOYNTON BEACH FLORIDA FOR A PORTION OF AN APPROXIMATELY 60 ACRE PARCEL OF REAL PROPERTY LOCATED AT 500 NORTHEAST 21st AVENUE, BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA BY CHANGING THE FUTURE LAND USE CLASSIFICATION FROM MEDIUM DENSITY TO LOCAL RETAIL COMMERCIAL, DECLARING THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP TO BE CONSISTENT WITH ALL OTHER ELEMENTS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OF THE CITY. PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, CONFLICTS AND PROVIDE ARE FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. DECLARING THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OF THE CITY, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, CONFLICTS AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >> MAYOR: ALL RIGHT. WHO DO WE HAVE FROM STAFF? MR. PINDER, WOULD YOU LIKE TO BEGIN? >> THIS IS A STAFF INITIATED, IS THAT CORRECT? NO. >> NO, IT'S APPLICANT INITIATED. >> MAYOR: WITH THAT, WE SHOULD LET THE APPLICANT GO FIRST, SINCE IT'S THEIR REQUEST. >> THAT'S FINE. >> OKAY, THIS IS GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY, I'M GARY PEARL WITH CALDWELL BANKER, I'M ALSO A VETERAN. VETERAN OF FOREIGN WARS, VERY BEEN ASKED TO SELL THIS PROPERTY, UNFORTUNATELY, FOR THE VFQ AND THE POST, WE ENCOUNTERED THE ISSUE OF BEING SPLIT IN ZONING AND FUTURE LAND USE. SO IF I CAN, I'LL JUST SHOW YOU, THIS IS THE PROPERTY. LET ME FIND THE RIGHT CLICKER. IT'S NEAR GATEWAY, IT'S ONE HALF BLOCK OR ALLEY AWAY. 500 NORTHEAST 25th STREET. THERE'S A PICTURE. IT'S BEEN THERE SINCE 1985 AND IT'S JUST BEEN UNFORTUNATE WITH COVID AND EVERYTHING ELSE, WE CAN'T AFFORD TO STAY. WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO FIND ANOTHER PLACE IN BOYNTON BEACH THAT WE CAN AFFORD. REASON, BOYNTON BEACH VFW IS IN CONTRACT WITH SANDY JAMES FINE FOOD AND PRODUCTIONS. IT HAS A KITCHEN, IT'S LIKE A RESTAURANT, SO THEY'RE JUMPING, IT'S COMPETITIVE. THE PRINCIPLE USE IS TAKEOUT RESTAURANT AND CATERING. THE PROPERTY IS IN ZONING DISTRICT R-3, SPLIT LAND USE CLASSIFICATION. THE PROPERTY HAS TWO FUTURE USES, THE WESTERN HALF BEING MEDIUM DENSITY, RESIDENTIAL AND THE EASTERN HALF LOCAL RETAIL COMMERCIAL. THE CURRENT ZONING IS MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL R-3. WE WANT TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE TO LOCAL RETAIL COMMERCIAL, WHICH MATCHES BOTH WILL BE THE SAME. AND REZONE THE WHOLE PROPERTY, FROM THE R 3 MULTIFAMILY, TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL C-2. AGAIN BE, THE WHOLE PROPERTY WILL BE MATCHED. HERE ARE SOME OF THE BENEFITS, YOU KNOW, IT'S IN CHARACTER WITH THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT, CARRIES OUT THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES WITH THE CITY, THE POLICIES AND THEIR COMPREHENSIVE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. PROPOSING THE USE BY SANDY JAMES FOOD, IT'S -- I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE GREAT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE CITY OF BOYNTON BEACH. PROMOTES INCREASED EMPLOYMENT, LOCAL RETAIL GROWTH, COUNTY AND CITY INCREASED TAX BASE. BECAUSE VFW'S ARE SINLLY NONPROFIT. ENHANCE ECONOMIC GROWTH FOR THAT AREA. QUESTIONS? >> MAYOR: ANY QUESTIONS FROM MY COLLEAGUES HERE? SEEING NO QUESTIONS, LET'S TURN -- >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. >> YES, THANK YOU. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU. MR. PINDER, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? >> GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS. YES, VERY QUICKLY, CRAIG PINDER, PLANNING AND ZONING, I'LL GO OVER TO MY SLIDE WITH THE MAPS FOR A VISUAL OF THE CURRENT FUTURE LAND USE CLASSIFICATION, AND THE ZONING. SO RIGHT HERE IS THE EXISTING FUTURE LAND USE CLASSIFICATION, AS YOU CAN SEE THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE SITE IS CURRENTLY CLASSIFIED AS LOCAL RETAIL/COMMERCIAL, REPRESENTED BY THE PINK COLOR. THE WESTERN HALF OF THE SIDE IS CURRENTLY CLASSIFIED AS MEDIUM DENSITY, RESIDENTIAL. THAT'S REPRESENTED BY THE GOLD WILL/YELLOW COLOR. ON THE RIGHT IS THE MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL. AND THEN HERE AGAIN FOR A VISUAL AID, IT SHOWS THAT THE FUTURE LAND USE CLASSIFICATION IS PROPOSED TO BE COMPLETELY LOCAL RETAIL COMMERCIAL, AND ON THE ZONING MAP, IT WILL BE PROPOSED AS NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL C-2. AND, OF COURSE, STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THIS APPLICATION. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE ARE AVAILABLE. >> THANK YOU. >> MAYOR: ANYTHING FOR MR. PINDER. SEEING NO QUESTIONS, THANK YOU SO MUCH. TO BOTH THE PRESENTERS. WE'RE GOING TO TURN TO PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK SPECIFICALLY ON THIS ITEM, NOW IS THE TIME TO APPROACH THE PODIUM. SEEING NO ONE -- OH, THERE'S ONE PERSON. ALL RIGHT, ONE SECOND. >> SUSAN HOYER, FIRST OF ALL, I THINK THIS IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF CODE OVERREACHING, YOU HEARD NOTHING ABOUT STORIES OF THAT ALL NIGHT FROM PEOPLE. MAYBE YOU SHOULD BE EXAMINING WHAT'S GOING ON,ING ESPECIALLY WITH THE VFW. MY OTHER QUESTION IS, YOU HAVE A VETERINARY OFFICE NEXT DOOR. AND I WORK WITH GARY, FULL DISCLOSURE, I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO TALK TO HIM ABOUT THIS, BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW HE WAS REPRESENTING THIS. I AM WONDERING IF THEY EVEN REACHED OUT TO GATEWAY VETERINARIAN, IT'S COLONIAL ANIMAL HOSPITAL. I'VE BEEN GOING TO THAT VETERINARY OFFICE FOR APPROACHING 50 YEARS, IT'S THE OLDEST VETERINARY OFFICE IN THE CITY, AND THEY HAVE THE BIG WIN ACROSS FROM THE WATER TOWER, I'M WONDERING, DID THEY EVEN BOTHER TO REACH OUT TO THEIR ADJACENT BUSINESS OWNER WHO IS ALWAYS LOOKING TO EXPAND AND SEE IF MAYBE THAT WOULD BE A BETTER USE. THAT WOULD DEFINITELY BENEFIT OUR CITY MORE, TO HAVE MORE VETERINARY EXPERIENCE AND MORE PLACES TO BOARD ANIMALS THAN TO HAVE YET ANOTHER TAKEAWAY FOOD PLACE. NOT THAT I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH TAKEAWAY FOOD PLACES. I THINK THIS WOULD BE A BETTER USE, SO I'M GOING TO ASK THOSE TWO QUESTIONS. DID YOU EXAMINE CODE AND WHY THEY WENT AFTER THESE PEOPLE, THE VFW, AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE YOU SHOULD LOOK INTO WHETHER THEY WERE ALLOWED TO TALK TO THE OTHER BUSINESS OR EVEN APPROACH THEM, THANK YOU. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU. NEXT PUBLIC COMMENT SPEAKER, APPROACH THE PODIUM. AND THE APPLICANT, YOU'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND AFTER THE PUBLIC COMMENTS HAVE CONCLUDED. >> MY NAME IS JIM, 705 SOUTHWEST 15th STREET, BOYNTON BEACH. ALSO A VETERAN, AND I AM THOROUGHLY IN SUPPORT OF THIS INITIATIVE, IT'S UNFOR THE THE VFW INCURRED SOME ZONING ISSUES IN THE COMPLETION OF THIS PROJECT. I KNOW THE VFW HAS FAITHFULLY SUPPORTED THE COMMUNITY FOR YEARS, AND I KNOW THAT THEY WANTED TO DO THE BEST FOR THE COMMUNITY IN PUTTING TOGETHER A PROGRAM THAT WOULD ALLOW HOPEFULLY AN INCREASED TAX BASE OR TAX INITIATIVE TO THE CITY, WHILE AT THE SAME TIME PROVIDING THROUGH THE PROPOSED SALE TO SANDY JAMES THAT THERE WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR INCREASED OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY ARE GOING TO EXPAND THEIR STAFF. WE WERE HOPING, AND I HAD SPOKEEN TO MR. JAMES MYSELF, THAT HE HAS IN HIS MIND TO WORK WITHIN THE COMMUNITY TO GET THIS DONE. ADDITIONALLY, SANDY JAMES ASIDE FROM THE SMALL OPPORTUNITY THAT THIS INITIATIVE PRESENTS, TAKING IT TO A C-2. HE HE IS WILLING TO PROVIDE SERVICES TO OUR HOMELESS VETERANS IN THE COMMUNITY WITH ADDITIONAL FOOD SERVICES FOR THEM, GRATIS, GOING-FORWARD. SO FOR THIS INITIATIVE, I SUPPORT MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS. AND I THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? HAD SEEING NO ONE ELSE, AND I SEE NO ONE ONLINE. PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE CLOSES. LET ME TURN BACK NOW TO THE APPLICANT AND STAFF IF THE APPLICANT HAS ANYTHING TO ADD, IN RESPONSE TO THE COMMENTS MADE. AND STAFF, IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE. AFTER WHICH, AFTER THEY'VE SPOKEN I'LL TURN BACK TO MY COLLEAGUES FOR ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS. YES, SIR. >>Y, TO MY COLLEAGUE, WILL WE SOLICITED THIS PROJECT, THE MULTIPLE LISTINGS ASSOCIATION WITH THE BOARD, LET'S JUST SAY WE PUT IT AND LISTED IT ONE DAY AND THREE DAYS LATER, WE HAD FIVE OFFERS. THAT'S HOW POPULAR PEOPLE FOUND OUT THAT WE SPECIFICALLY REACH -- DID WE SPECIFICALLY REACH OUT TO THE VETERINARIAN, NO. IT WENT SO FAST. THANK YOU. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU. STAFF, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD? >> YES, I'LL ADD THAT THE APPLICANT WAS REQUIRED TO NOTICE THE REQUEST TONIGHT, SO THEY POSTED ON THE PROPERTY, AND SENT OUT MAILERS TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 400 FEET. >> BEFORE YOU GO, ANY QUESTIONS FOR MY COLLEAGUES? >> SEEING NONE. ALL RIGHT. >> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> MAYOR: LET ME CLARIFY ONE THING. THERE ARE TWO RELATED ORDINANCES HERE, THE FIRST IS AMENDING THE FUTURE LAND USE, AND THE SECOND IS THE REZONING. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE CLARIFY THAT, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE VOTES ON EACH OF THEM SEPARATELY. COMMISSIONER CRUZ, YOU MADE A PORTION, THIS IS FOR 24-014. IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> MAYOR: WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER TURKIN. LET'S GO TO ROLL CALL. >> MISSIONER HAY. >> I FORGOT TO DISCLOSE I SPOKE WITH JIM ON THIS ITEM. WE HAD LENGTHY CONVERSATIONS ON THIS. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS TRANSPARENT. >> COMMISSIONER HAY? >> YES. >> COMMISSION TURKIN? >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER CRUZ? >> YES. >> VICE MEYER KELLEY? >> YES. >> MAYOR PENSERGA? >> YES. >> APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY. >> MAYOR: MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE 24-015. >> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND. >> COMMISSIONER HAY? >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER TURKIN? >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER CRUZ? >> YES. >> VICE MAYOR KELLEY? >> WE. >> MAYOR PENSERGA. >> IN A ROLL CALL VOTE, THE MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. >> I WANTED TO QUICKLY -- SANDY JAMES IS A INDICATORER AND LOCAL BUSINESS, HAS BEEN IN THE AREA FOR A LONG TIME, THEY DO AMAZING WORK IN THE COMMUNITY. IT'S EXCITING THAT THEY'VE CHOSEN BOYNTON BEACH TO BE A NEW HUB. I'M EXCITED TO HAVE THAT -- THEM HERE AND LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT PARTNERSHIP. THEY ARE A VERY EXCLUSIVE PREMIERE CATERER THAT HAS WORKED OUT OF WEST PALM BEACH FOR AS LONG AS I CAN REMEMBER. IT'S EXCITING THEY'RE COMING TO BOYNTON BEACH, AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO IT. >> MAYOR: ABSOLUTELY. MOVING ON. 10-A, PROPOSED ORDINANCE 24-16 FIRST READING. >> AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA, APPROVING THE ABANDONMENT OF PORTIONS OF AN EXISTING UTILITY EASEMENT ASSOCIATED WITH THE SHOPPES AT BOYNTON BEACH DEVELOPMENT PROJECT LOCATED AT 2202 NORTH CONGRESS AVENUE, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR ALL OTHER PURPOSES. >> MAYOR: TO BE CLEAR, THIS IS THE SPROUTS LOCATION? I HEARD A YES. ANYTHING FROM MY COLLEAGUES OR STAFF? IF NOT, I'LL PROVIDE TO -- >> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND. >> MAYOR: LET'S GO AHEAD. >> COMMISSIONER HAY? >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER TURKIN? >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER -- >> IN A ROLL CALL VOTE, THE MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED. >> MAYOR: NEXT, ECOPARK PROJECT STATUS UPDATE AND REQUEST FOR DIRECTION. >> KEVIN, PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR. I'D LIKE TO ASK FOR DIRECTION WHAT TO DO WITH ECOPARK. WE WENT OUT TO BID, IT CAME IN $500,000 HIGHER THAN WHAT WE HAD. THEN PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR AND PARKS DIRECTOR LOOKED FOR FUNDS, THEY DIDN'T SECURE THE FUNDS WITHIN 90 DAYS, THE CONTRACTOR HAD THE ABILITY TO CHOSE WHETHER TO GO FORWARD OR NOT. THEY CHOSE TO DECLINE TO GO FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT. SO WORKING WITH THE GRANTS COORDINATOR, WE TALKED WITH THE GRANTOR, AND THEY KBAV US A FEW OPTIONS WE CAN CHOOSE TO DO. ONE WAS TO WITHDRAW THE GRANT AND COME BACK IN A COUPLE -- >> MAYOR: I'M SORRY, CAN WE HAVE THAT ON THE SCREEN, PLEASE? THAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL. THERE'S A SLIDE WITH THE ITEMS KEVIN IS DISCUSSING. >> CAN YOU PULL UP THE PRESENTATION, IT SHOULD BE ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA ITEM. >> MAYOR: ALL RIGHT, NEVER MIND, KEVIN. JUST KEEP GOING. >> WE ORIGINALLY HAD A DESIGN, AND THAT WENT OUT AND THE ORIGINAL SCOPE PROJECT COST WAS GOING TO BE $1.8 MILLION, ESTIMATED FROM OUR ARCHITECTS, THEN STAFF WENT IN AND THEY REMOVED SOME ITEMS, AND THOSE ITEMS WERE -- I HAVE IT RIGHT HERE TO BE CLEAR. SORRY. THEY REMOVED TWO BATHROOM BUILDINGS, FLOATING DOCKS, FIVE PICNIC PAVILIONS AND TWO TIKI HUTS TO REDUCE THE PRICE DOWN TO AN ESTIMATED $1.4 MILLION. STAFF WENT OUT FOR A BID OFF OF THAT, THE BIDS CAME IN AT $1.3 MILLION. WHICH GAVE US $500,000 PLUS SHORTFALL. FROM THERE THEY WENT LOOKING FOR MONEY, THEY DID NOT FIND IT. THEY DIDN'T SECURE IT IN TIME FOR THE 90 DAY GRACE PERIOD. WHICH ALLOWED THE CONTRACTOR TO NOT -- AGROW WITH THEIR PRICING, WALK AWAY FROM THE PROJECT IN ESSENCE. THE NEXT CLOSEST PRICE WAS 1.6 PLUS MILLION DOLLARS. FROM THERE, WE CONTACTED THE CONTRACTOR, DID A MEETING THAT WE WENT THROUGH THE GRANT'S COORDINATOR, CALLED THEM, THEY GAVE US SOME OPTIONS. ONE WITHDRAW FROM THE GRANT AND COME BACK IN A COUPLE YEARS WITH A NEW DESIGN. REIGNITE IN A COUPLE YEARS. TWO, REDUCE THE SCOPE, THEY COME BACK LOWER THAN THAT, WE REDUCED THE SCOPE AT ONE POINT, WHAT'S LEFT OF THIS, AND THAT WAS THEN -- THE THREE CHOICES FROM THE GRANTER. WE HAD A THIRD OPTION. DELAY THE PROJECT THIS YEAR, FIND FUNDING AND GO AFTER IT NEXT YEAR AT WHAT SCOPE AND WHAT RATE. THE QUESTION FOR THE COMMISSION, WHAT DO YOU WANT STAFF TO DO? >> ALL RIGHT. WERE YOU FINISHED? >> YES. >> MAYOR: AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, THIS IS VERY MUCH NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART, AND I KNOW ALSO TO VICE MAYOR KELLEY, MY CONCERN HERE IS NUMBER ONE THE PREVIOUS QPOD BOARD OF WHICH THIS COMMISSION -- NOT YOU GUYS, THE PRIOR COMMISSION WHICH I WAS INCLUDED, SAT AS THEIR BOARD MEMBERS AND WE ALLOCATED A SPECIFIC AMOUNT OF MONEY SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS PROJECT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE I LAY THAT OUT FOR THE PUBLIC, NUMBER TWO, WE KNEW THOSE FUNDS. I BELIEVE IT WAS 600 -- I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT NUMBER. >> A TOTAL OF $895,000. >> MAYOR: DID THAT INCLUDE THE GRANT FUNDS? >> WE HAD 1 MILLION TOTAL. THAT'S SIGNIFICANT. MY WORRY HERE IS THAT IF WE KIND OF START FROM SCRATCH OR WAIT ANOTHER YEAR OR TWO YEARS, WE'RE GOING TO LOSE OUT ON THOSE GRANT FUNDS. I DON'T WANT TO START OVER AND MAY OR MAY NOT GET THOSE GRAND FUNDS AGAIN. I DON'T WANT TO THROW OUT THOSE DOLLARS. MY RECOMMENDATION MOVING FORWARD, I KNOW THAT THE CRA BOARD, WHOEVER THEY ARE, I'M JUST KIDDING. HAS ALLOCATED MORE FUNDS INTO THEIR JOINT INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS WITH THE CITY. WHAT THAT MEANS IS, THE CRA IS COVERING MORE DOLLARS FOR CIP PROJECTS, THAT SHOULD IN THEORY CLEAR UP MORE FUNDS FOR CITY PROJECTS, OF WHICH I'M HOPING WE CAN MEET THE GAP FOR THIS STRATEGY. I HOPE THAT'S POSSIBLE. YOU KNOW, THAT IS A DIRECTION I'D LIKE TO GIVE, AND ASK STAFF TO EXPLORE THOSE OPTIONS. IF THE CRA IS COVERING MORE CIP, MAYBE THAT WILL FREE UP MORE DOLLARS FOR THIS MY CONCERN, KEVIN, WE LOSE OUT THE GLANT DOLLARS, WE MAY HAVE TO REAPPLY, WE MAY OR MAY NOT GET AGAIN. NUMBER TWO, YOU KNOW, JUST BECAUSE WE CAN'T HAVE ALL THE BELLS AND WHISTLES TODAY, IT DOESN'T MEAN WE SHOULDN'T DO ANYTHING AT ALL. WE CAN DO THIS IN PHASES, BETTER TO GET THE BALL ROLLING THAN NOT ROLLING AT ALL. THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHT, AND THAT'S MY PROPOSAL OF HOW WE FIND THE FUNDS, AND I'LL LEAVE IT THERE, AND LET'S HEAR FROM MY COLLEAGUES. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. AND I SUPPORT YOU IN THAT. I THINK THAT TRYING TO DROP THIS AND PUSHING IT OFF IS -- IT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE VERY DISAPPOINTING TO I KNOW THE MAYOR AND TO ME. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I'VE ATTENDED THE MEETINGS AND BEEN A PART OF, THIS IS SOMETHING I'VE BEEN EXCITED TO SEE HAPPENING. SO IS WE 1340USOMEHOW MANAGED TD MONEY FOR OTHER THINGS AND OTHER THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT. I THINK IF WE -- MY POSITION IS, THAT WE MOVE FORWARD, WE DO WHAT WE HAVE TO, AND IF -- AND FIND IT, MAKE IT WORK. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE RESIDENTS HAVE WANTED, WE HAVE WANTED. THAT -- IT IS JUST SITTING THERE COLLECTING GARBAGE. AND I THINK THAT IS SPACE THAT CAN BENEFIT ALL THE RESIDENTS IN THE CITY. I SUPPORT YOU MAYOR, AND I THINK WE CAN MANAGE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO PAY FOR OTHER THINGS, I THINK WE CAN FIND THE LAST LITTLE BIT OF FUNDS WE NEED TO AT LEAST GET THE PROJECT STARTED. IT MAY NOT BE THAT WE DO THE FULL FACE ONE. I KNOW WE TALKED, AND HAVE TALKED TO STAFF MANY TIMES ABOUT SPLIT RAIL FENCES PROTECTING THE AREA. RIGHT NOW IT'S OPEN. AND THERE'S PEOPLE ON THE PROPERTY AND DESTROYING THE PROPERTY, AND DOING WHATEVER THEY WANT TO WITH THE PROPERTY. THERE'S WAYS WE CAN -- WE NEED TO ACTIVATE IT, OTHERWISE IT JUST BECOMES A NUISANCE. THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS. THANK YOU, MAYOR, FOR PUSHING THIS FORWARD. IT IS VERY IMPORTANT >> MAYOR: THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR. IN FULL DISCLOSURE I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH ANDREW MACK, HE'S EXPLORING OPTIONS, IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE MAY BE SOME MORE REALISTIC OPTIONS. >> I SUPPORT THIS, I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PARK SPACE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE CITY, AND WE NEED IT EVERYWHERE, SO IF -- ANYWAY WE CAN FIND FUNDING, I WOULD DEFINITELY SUPPORT DOING THAT. >> MAYOR: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM MY COLLEAGUES? >> I DO SUPPORT IT. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU. I'M GOOD AS LONG AS WE'RE NOT PULLING FROM OTHER CIP. WE'VE PREACHED INFRASTRUCTURE, I KNOW THAT GULF VIEW HARBOR RECEIVED A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO MAKE SURE THOSE ROADS GOT PAVED, BOYNTON ESTATED HAS ROADS THAT ARE D RATED, F RATED. THEY'RE NOT GETTING PAID. I WANT TO THINK OF OUR PRIORITIES, I LOVE THE IDEA OF THE CRA BALANCE, MAYOR I KNOW HOW MUCH THIS MEANS TO YOU, AND THIS IS YOUR LEGACY PROJECT, AND I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO SUPPORT IT. I DON'T THINK IT'S A BLACK AND WHITE SOLUTION. WHETHER WE REDUCE THE SCOPE OR LOOK AT SOMETHING, IT'S GREAT. WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL AND FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR INFRASTRUCTURE, RIGHT? AND SO I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO SUPPORT THIS, I'M SURE THAT STAFF WILL GET CREATIVE AND FIND A WAY TO FUND IT. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU SO MUCH, COMMISSIONER. AND TO ALL OF YOU, THANK YOU, KEVIN. ANYTHING ELSE FROM MY COLLEAGUES? IF NOT, WE'RE FINISHED. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. MOVING ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, 10-C. AN UPDATE ON THE CITY'S ART IN PUBLIC PUBLIC SPACES PLACES PROGRAMS. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS. AMANDA RADIGAN WITH PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT. I AM HERE TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF AN UPDATE AND ASK FOR SOME COMMENTS AND CONSENSUS ON SOME MOVEMENT FORWARD. SO, FIRST OF ALL, IF YOU HAVEN'T HEARD, PUBLIC ART HAS MOVED. THEY ARE NOW HOUSED WITHIN PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT. SO CURRENTLY, THE DEPARTMENT CONSISTS OF PLANNING AND ZONING, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AND PUBLIC ART. THIS IS ALREADY CAUSING A LOT OF EXCITEMENT IN STAFF. THEY ARE COMING UP WITH REALLY CREATIVE PROGRAMS TO KIND OF WORK TOGETHER. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'LL SEE SOON, WE'RE RUNNING A PILOT ON A VACANT STOREFRONT PROGRAM WHICH WAS A COLLABORATION BETWEEN PUBLIC ART AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. THE PILOT PROGRAM WILL BE INSTALLED ON OCEAN AVENUE SOON. WE'LL LET YOU GUYS KNOW ONCE IT'S LIVE. SO THAT BEING SAID, SOME OF THE PARTS OF PUBLIC ART HAVE BEEN SPLIT UP JUST A LITTLE BIT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE EXPERTISE THAT IS NEEDED TO RUN THE PROGRAM IS GIVEN ITS PROPER DUE AND THE PROPER PLACE. WITHIN PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT, WE ARE COVERING THE PUBLIC ART PROGRAM, PUBLIC ART PLANNING AND THE PURCHASE OF PUBLIC ART. SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE MOVING TO OTHER PLACES, PARTICULARLY THE ARTS AND CULTURE DEPARTMENT, WHICH IS HEADED UP BY CRAIG CLARK, IS THE KINETIC EVENT. THAT IS STAYING WITHIN THE ARTS AND CULTURE, ALTHOUGH STILL FUNDED THROUGH THE PUBLIC ART PROGRAM. ARTS AND CULTURE IS ALSO TAKING CARE OF INDOOR ART EXHIBITS WITHIN PUBLIC BUILDINGS. AND THEN THE OTHER COMPONENT OF IT IS THE MAINTENANCE OF THE ART. THIS IS SOMETHING THE CITY COULD HAVE DONE BETTER OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS AND NOW WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER A MAINTENANCE PROGRAM WHICH WILL BE HELD WITHIN THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE UNDER GAIL MUTES. SOME OF THIS IS FUNDED THROUGH THE FUNDS THAT WE GET THROUGH PUBLIC ART. THE LAST THING I'LL SAY HERE IS PUBLIC ART WAS PREVIOUSLY -- IT HAD 1.5 POSITIONS ATTACHED TO THAT DIVISION. CURRENTLY WE HAVE ONE POSITION HERE. THIS POSITION WAS RECLASSED INTO AN URBAN DESIGNER POSITION. WE HIRED SOMEONE WHO HAS BOTH PLANNING SKILLS, PUBLIC ART SKILLS, ARCHITECTURE SKILLS AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION SKILLS SO WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO HAVE HIM. HE'S ACTUALLY HERE, JOHN STOUT. THERE WE GO. HE'S OUR NEWEST ADDITION AND HELPING US KIND OF GUIDE THROUGH THE PUBLIC ART PROGRAM. OKAY. SO JUST AS A REFRESHER, THE WAY THE PROGRAM LOOKS RIGHT NOW -- AND THIS IS WITH SOME OF THE RECENT AMENDMENTS THAT THIS BOARD MADE. MOST OF THE ELIGIBLE PROJECTS FALL WITHIN THE -- MUST BE OVER THE 500,000 CONSTRUCTION VALUE. THERE ARE SOME EXEMPTIONS. FOR EXAMPLE, AFFORDABLE HOUSING DOES NOT HAVE TO PAY THIS FEE. SO THE FEE IS 1% OF CONSTRUCTION VALUE WITH A MAXIMUM BUDGET OF $1 MILLION. OF THAT 1%, 30% OF THAT GOES DIRECTLY INTO THE ART FUND. IT IS A PAYMENT AND THAT'S DONE AT ISSUANCE OF BUILDING PERMIT. NOW, THE REMAINING 70%, THERE ARE CURRENTLY TWO OPTIONS THAT YOU CAN DO. ONE IS PAYMENT INTO THE FUND. I CALL THAT THE PUBLIC PROGRAM BECAUSE THAT GOES STRAIGHT INTO THE PUBLIC ART FUND FOR USES OF THE PUBLIC ART DIVISION AND THE BOARD AND THE COMMISSION. THE OTHER OPTION I CALL THE DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM. THAT IS ESSENTIALLY A PRIVATE BUDGET FOR PEOPLE TO PROCURE PUBLIC ART WITHIN THEIR PROJECT. SO THE PUBLIC ART PROGRAM HAS HAD A LOT OF SUCCESSES, ONE BEING KINETIC. I LIKE TO LOOK AT THIS SLIDE AND THINK OF LIKE SOME OF THE ART PIECES THAT I THINK ARE RECOGNIZABLE TO MOST PEOPLE. EVERYTHING YOU'RE SEEING ON THIS SLIDE IS A PRODUCT OF WHAT I WAS CALLING THE PUBLIC ART PROGRAM. THESE ARE DOLLARS THAT WERE SPENT IN OUR PUBLIC AND CIVIC SPACES. SO THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT WE ARE GETTING WITHIN OUR DEVELOPMENT PUBLIC ART. SOME OF THESE ARE A LITTLE BIT SMALLER BUDGETS. THEY ARE MORE NUANCED. THERE ARE THINGS THAT MAY NOT BE AS RECOGNIZABLE AS WHAT YOU SAW ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE. SO SOME OF THE THOUGHTS THAT ARE HAPPENING NOW IN PUBLIC ART AND WHERE WE'D LIKE SOME FEEDBACK IS WE ARE KIND OF RETHINKING WHAT IS PUBLIC ART AND HOW WE CAN USE THESE DOLLARS. SO BOTH OF THESE PICTURES ARE IN CHICAGO. ONE -- I MEAN THEY ARE BOTH WATER FEATURES. ONE IS MORE OF A TYPICAL VIEW OF WHAT ART IS. IT'S KIND OF ABSTRACT PERSON WITH MOUTH COMING -- WITH WATER COMING OUT OF THEIR MOUTH AND ANOTHER IS MORE OF A BEAUTIFICATION PROCESS AND HOW YOU INTEGRATE WATER INTO CIVIC SPACES. ARE THEY BOTH ART? SO SOME OF THE CONCEPTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS ART AS UTILITY. SO THINGS THAT THE CITY IS REQUIRED TO PROVIDE FOR THE PUBLIC -- SIDEWALKS. THE PICTURE TO YOUR LEFT IS THE HIGHLANDS IN NEW YORK CITY. THINGS LIKE SHADE AND WRAPPING SOME OF THE ACTUAL UTILITY BOXES THAT WE HAVE THAT ARE REALLY UGLY. YOU CAN SEE IN THE TOP PICTURE. ALWAYS THAT I THINK ART AND PLANNING AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CAN START TO CREATE SOME SYNERGY TOGETHER. ART FOR PEDESTRIANS. THE PICTURE TO YOUR LEFT IS IN CHINA. IT IS A PEDESTRIAN BIKE BRIDGE THAT GOES OVER A PRETTY WIDE ROAD. TO YOUR UPPER RIGHT, THIS IS A SAFETY BOLLARD THAT PROTECTS OUTDOOR DINING FROM ONGOING CARS. I CAN'T TELL YOU IN PLANNING HOW MANY TIMES I HAVE HEARD I DON'T WANT TO EAT ON BOYNTON BEACH BOULEVARD BECAUSE THERE ARE CARS ZOOMING BY ME AT 50 MILES AN HOUR. CAN SOME OF THESE FUNDS BE USED FOR THINGS THAT COULD HAPPINESS SOME OF OUR URBA CONCEPTS? AND THEN TO THE BOTTOM, YOU SEE PUBLIC ART BEING USED FOR LIKE SEATING. SO THIS PICTURE IS ACTUALLY ONE OF MY FAVORITES, ONLY BECAUSE NO ONE WOULD REALLY NOTICE WHAT IT'S DOING. THIS IS ART IMPROVING THE ORDINARY. SO THINGS LIKE INTERSECTIONS, MURALS. BUT IF YOU LOOK CLOSELY AT THE PICTURE TO YOUR LEFT, MOST PEOPLE WOULDN'T SEE HOW INTERESTING WHAT'S HAPPENING IS. SO YOU CAN SEE THE CURB LINE TO THE TOP OF THE PICTURE. AND YOU SEE THAT THE ART IS KIND OF EXPANDING THE CURB AND SHORTENING THE CROSSWALK. THIS IS ESSENTIALLY AN INSTALLATION THAT IS LOOKING AT NARROWING ROADS AND VISION ZERO. HOW DO WE MAKE IT SAFER FOR PEOPLE WITH ALMOST NO DOLLARS, RIGHT? THIS IS JUST AN ART INSTALLATION AND IT HAS A DIRECT IMPACT ON HOW WE'RE USING THE URBAN ENVIRONMENT. LIGHTING, ANOTHER ONE THAT WE HEAR A LOT ABOUT IN PLANNING AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND BEAUTIFICATION. ARE THERE WAYS THAT WE CAN BE DOING SOME OF THESE PROJECTS IN A MORE THOUGHTFUL WAY IF THERE WAS ADDED FUNDS TO IT? THIS PICTURE TO THE LEFT IS ONE OF MY FAVORITES. AND TEMPORARY STRUCTURES. SO THIS IS ACTUALLY IN MEXICO. THIS ONE ACTUALLY IS MADE OUT OF PLASTIC BUCKETS. THE ART PIECE IS ACTUALLY ABOUT RECYCLING AND PLASTIC IN THE OCEAN. SO THAT'S WHY IT'S MAKING THIS WAVE. BUT IT IS A TEMPORARY INSTALLATION THAT CAN ACTIVATE PUBLIC SPACES. AND THIS INSTALLATION MOVES. AND THERE'S LOTS OF EXAMPLES OF ART LIKE THIS. THE MOST EXTREME EXAMPLE OF HOW ART CAN BE INTEGRATED INTO URBAN DESIGN WOULD BE IN OUR PARKS. SOMETHING LIKE THIS SHOWS AN ELEVATED PARK. AND SOMETHING LIKE THIS CAN ONLY BE DONE AT THE BEGINNING STAGES OF DESIGN WITHIN PARKS. THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT WE CAN PIECE TOGETHER ON A PER-PROJECT BASIS. THIS HAS TO BE DONE BY A CITY INITIATIVE, SOME SORT OF GUIDING PLAN. SO I WANTED TO REVIEW SOME OF WHAT WE FEEL OUR NEXT STEPS ARE AND UNDERSTAND FROM THE COMMISSION IF YOU AGREE, IF WE'RE GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, IF THERE ARE THINGS YOU'D LIKE TO SEE CHANGED, IF THERE ARE THINGS YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE CHANGED. I'M HERE TO HEAR FEEDBACK AS WE MOVE FORWARD. SO THE FIRST STEP IN MY CURRENT PLAN IS TO GO OUT AND CREATE A COMPREHENSIVE PUBLIC ART MASTER PLAN FOR THE ENTIRE CITY. AND IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT EVERY SINGLE BLOCK OF THE CITY IS GOING TO GET LIKE A PIECE OF ART, BUT IT DOES MEAN THAT THE WHOLE CITY WOULD BE CONSIDERED IN WHERE WE INVEST IN ART AND WHAT TYPE OF ART IS APPLICABLE IN WHAT AREAS. MY INTENTION IS FOR THIS TO BE DONE BY EXPERTS. I WANT TO GO OUT AND FIND THE BEST OF THE BEST TO COME AND GIVE US FEEDBACK ON HOW THEY WOULD SEE PUBLIC ART INTEGRATING INTO OUR CITY. AND THEN WE CAN WORK TOWARDS BUILDING SOME OF THOSE BIG IDEAS. ARE WE CREATING AN UNDERWATER SCULPTURE GARDEN? AN UNDERWATER SCULPTURE DIVING THING SO EVERY YEAR WE KNOW WE WANT TO PUT DOLLARS INTO PROCUREMENT OF A CERTAIN TYPE OF ART TO CREATE SOME TYPE OF DESTINATION. THE NEXT THING WE WANT TO LOOK AT IS EXPANDING THE USE OF THESE FUNDS. RIGHT NOW, IT IS PRETTY LIMITED HOW THESE FUNDS CAN BE USED. MOST OF WHAT I HAVE SHOWED YOU TODAY WOULDN'T QUALIFY UNDER THE WAY OUR FUNDING SYSTEM WORKS RIGHT NOW. I WANT TO STREAMLINE THE APPROVAL PROCESS. AND I WOULD LIKE TO INCENTIVIZE PUBLIC ART IN PUBLIC PLACES. MEANING FOR THESE DOLLARS TO GO INTO OUR PUBLIC SPACES, TO FUNNEL MOST OF THESE DOLLARS INTO PLACES THAT EVERYONE CAN ENJOY THEM, NOT THAT ART WITHIN DEVELOPMENTS, THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH IT. THE ONLY WAY WE MAKE BIG STATEMENTS IS WITH LARGER POTS OF MONEY. I WOULD LIKE TO FIGURE OUT CODE WAYS TO INCENTIVIZE THE PUBLIC ART PROGRAM. THAT IS WHERE I AM. I'M AVAILABLE FOR COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, RIGHT DIRECTION, WRONG DIRECTION, ALL OF THE ABOVE. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU, AMANDA. LET'S BEGIN ON MY LEFT, COMMISSIONER TURKIN. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU, AMANDA. JOHN, WELCOME. GOT YOUR WORK CUT OUT FOR YOU, FOR SURE. NO, THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER. YOU KNOW, I LOVE THE ORGANIZATIONAL CHART. YOU KNOW, THIS MAKES ME THINK OF SOMETHING THAT I BROUGHT UP A WHILE AGO WHICH YOU HAVE SEEN ORGANIZATIONS WITH COLLATERAL DUTIES AND BEING EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT AND THAT'S HOW THE CITY IS REWARDED WHEN YOU HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL WHO IS SKILLED, YOU KNOW, THAT CAN WEAR MULTIPLE HATS COST SAVING TO THE TAXPAYERS, MORE EFFICIENCY FOR CITY OPERATIONS. AND THIS IS WHAT YOU SEE IN HIGH-LEVEL ORGANIZATIONS. SO IT'S AWESOME TO SEE THAT. I'M DEFINITELY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS PLAN. YOU KNOW, I THINK ALSO THIS COMPREHENSIVE PUBLIC ART PLAN, YOU KNOW, WOULD BE A GREAT TASK FOR OUR ARTS ADVISORY BOARD, RIGHT. SO I THINK THIS WILL HELP GIVE THEM SOMETHING TO, YOU KNOW, BE A PART OF THE PLAN. YOU KNOW, I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING IT AND ALSO TO HELP MITIGATE THE COSTS OF POTENTIAL INFRASTRUCTURE AND OTHER THINGS, RIGHT. WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE ECO PARK AND HOW, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT TO FIND MONEY. I KEEP MAKING THAT A THEME TONIGHT. WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR MONEY, RIGHT. SO THIS IS AN AWESOME WAY TO, YOU KNOW, INCORPORATE ART INTO POTENTIAL INFRASTRUCTURE OR, YOU KNOW, OTHER COMMUNITY NEEDS. SO I THINK THIS IS GREAT AND THIS IS SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, I WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO. THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THIS FORWARD. >> MY PLEASURE. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR, FOR GETTING US AN UPDATE ON THIS. I THINK YOU BROUGHT THIS FORWARD. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER HAY, DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR AMANDA? >> JUST A FEW COMMENTS. I JUST LOVE THE IDEA. IT GOES ALONG WITH OUR MASTER AND KINETIC ART. THIS WILL FALL INTO LINE GIVING BOYNTON AN IDENTITY THAT'S UNIQUE BECAUSE I HAVE SEEN MANY SCHOOLS COME WITH BUSES OF LOAD OF KIDS JUST TO VIEW THE KINETIC ART THAT WE HAVE IN PUBLIC. AND I THINK THIS WOULD JUST BE AN ADDITION TO THAT, PLUS OUR OWN CITIZENS ENJOYING IT. SO I'M JUST LOOKING TO THE IDEA OF BRANDING AND JUST GIVING BOYNTON A FACE-LIFT. AND THIS IS ONE OF THE WAYS TO DO THAT. SO I AM ALL FOR IT. AND I REALLY THANK YOU AND YOUR STAFF FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD. >> I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE BRANDING AND IDENTITY IS SOME OF THE MAYBE FACTORS THAT DRIVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOO. SO I THINK THERE IS A LOT OF REALLY GREAT SYNERGY THAT COULD HAPPEN WITH THESE THREE GROUPS TOGETHER. IT'S NOT SOMETHING I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT OF RIGHT AWAY. ONCE WE SAW HOW STAFF IS STARTING TO WORK TOGETHER, I THINK THERE COULD BE SOME REALLY GREAT THINGS COMING OUT OF THIS. >> EXCELLENT, THANK YOU, AMANDA. >> THANK YOU. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU. VICE MAYOR? >> THANK YOU. MY COMMENTS ARE BRIEF, BUT WHEN I TALKED TO STAFF AND JUST HEARD, YOU KNOW, HOW YOUR TEAM IS SO EXCITED TO MOVE THIS FORWARD, YOU KNOW, I FEEL LIKE THERE WAS LIKE A LULL OF WHO'S GOING TO HANDLE WHAT. AND I KNOW YOU AND YOUR TEAM HAVE COME TOGETHER AND KIND OF ADOPTED AND EMBRACED THE PUBLIC ART COMPONENT. I THINK IT MAKES SENSE YOU'RE IN THAT. IT'S PART OF THAT PROGRAM. AND IF YOU ARE PUSHING WHAT THE CITY'S KIND OF PUBLIC ART PRIORITIES ARE, WHO BETTER TO DO THAT THAN THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. SO I'M SUPER EXCITED TO SEE WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE PLANNED. I HAVE BEEN PUSHING FOR THOSE UTILITY BOX COVERS FOR A VERY LONG TIME. >> COMING YOUR WAY. [LAUGHTER] >> AND I WANT TO SEE THEM IN MY LIFETIME, PLEASE. I THINK IT'S SUCH A QUICK AND EASY FIX TO JUST BRING LIFE TO SOMETHING GRAY AND DULL. >> ONE OF THE THINGS I LEARNED WORKING IN GOVERNMENT IS NOTHING IS AS EASY AS IT SHOULD BE. [LAUGHTER] WE OWN NONE OF THEM. NONE OF THEM ARE ON OUR PROPERTY BUT WE HAVE STARTED CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COUNTY. WE NOW KNOW THE PROCESS TO MOVE FORWARD. YOU WILL SEE MOVING QUICKLY A CALL TO ARTISTS TO GET SOME ACTUAL PUBLIC ART SUBMITTED. AND THEN WE'LL BE GOING THROUGH THE APPROVAL PROCESS WITH THE COUNTY AND FDOT TO GET THOSE INSTALLED. IT IS IN THE WORKS. >> AWESOME, THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING. AND WELCOME. >> MAYOR: COMMISSIONER CRUZ. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH, AMANDA. YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> AND FOLLOWING ON WHAT COMMISSIONER HAY STATED, HAVING AN IDENTITY, YOU KNOW -- YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GO TO CHICAGO, IT'S LIKE THE BEAN. AND THEN WHEN YOU SEE THAT PICTURE OF MEXICO, IT'S LIKE THE NICE WAVE. YOU KNOW, SOMETHING NICE, SOMETHING CENTERED -- >> SOMETHING THAT SAYS BOYNTON BEACH. >> SOMETHING THAT SAYS BOYNTON, YES, I LOVE THAT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> MAYOR: AMANDA, AS FOR MYSELF, I DON'T NEED TO ECHO EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID. I DO WANT TO, ONE, JUST EMPHASIZE KEEP THE ART ADVISORY BOARD INVOLVED. >> YES. >> MAYOR: AND NUMBER TWO, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS OR WHAT ARE YOUR PLANS FOR THE KINETIC ART FESTIVAL? >> SO THAT IS STILL HAPPENING. SO THAT WILL BE -- THE ADMINISTRATION OF THAT EVENT WILL HAPPEN WITHIN ARTS AND CULTURE. EVENTS IS NOW HOUSED WITHIN THAT DEPARTMENT. SO CRAIG CLARK AND HIS TEAM AND GABBY WILL BE HEADING UP THAT. >> MAYOR: OKAY. >> WE DO ALREADY HAVE A CONSULTANT ON-BOARD WHO IS WORKING ON THE PLANNING FOR 2025. AND IF YOU WANT TO HEAR A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT IT -- >> MAYOR: CRAIG GOT UP SO QUICKLY. >> HE'S EXCITED TO TALK ABOUT IT. >> MAYOR: LET'S HEAR FROM CRAIG. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS. CRAIG CLARK, DIRECTOR OF RECREATION AND CULTURAL SERVICES. MY STAFF AND I ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT KINETIC 2025. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CONSULTANT ZUCKER MEDIA GROUP. THEY ARE THE GRUP THAT WORKED WITH THE CITY BACK IN 2021 TO HELP MANAGE THE EVENT. SO MYSELF, KELLEY ARMISTEAD, SHE'S THE DIVISION DIRECTOR OF THE ARTS AND CULTURAL CENTER AND GABBY, VIVITTA AND HER TEAM ARE WORKING DILIGENTLY TOGETHER ALONG WITH OUR MARKETING DEPARTMENT FOR THE CITY. WE ARE IN CONTACT WITH MS. ZUCKER MULTIPLE TIMES A WEEK SO WE ARE DEVELOPING. WE HAVE A CALL TO ARTISTS OUT FOR THE INDOOR AND OUTDOOR ART EXHIBITS FOR KINETIC. THE EVENT WILL BE HELD FEBRUARY 1st AND 2nd, 2025, SATURDAY AND SUNDAY. WE DO HAVE A CALL TO ARTISTS OUT. WE EXTENDED THAT UNTIL SEPTEMBE. WE DO HAVE A PUBLIC ARTS ADVISORY BOARD MEETING THIS COMING THURSDAY AND WE HAVE SEVERAL ITEMS ON THE AGENDA. MS. ZUCKER WILL BE GIVING A PRESENTATION ABOUT KINETIC SO WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT. AND WE ARE VERY DEDICATED TO MAKING THIS EVENT MEMORABLE. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU, CRAIG. THANK YOU, AMANDA. I THINK THIS CONCLUDES THIS ITEM. WE ARE MOVING TO THE LAST ITEM ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. 10D, HISTORIC RESOURCES AND PRESERVATIONS BOARD NOMINATIONS. I SEE YOU'RE GOING TO INTRODUCE THE ITEM. >> YES, THAT'S ME. I HAVE ALL THE FUN STUFF TODAY. IF WE CAN JUST PULL UP THE NEXT PRESENTATION, PLEASE. SO THE CITY'S HISTORIC RESOURCES PRESERVATION BOARD HAS RECENTLY NOMINATED SIX PROPERTIES FOR DESIGNATION. WE HAVE TWO CITY-OWNED PROPERTIES. FIRST ONE IS LITTLE LEAGUE PARK AND THE NEXT IS BOYNTON BEACH MEMORABLE PARK. AFTER THAT WE HAVE THREE CHURCHES, ST. JOHN'S MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH, GREATER ST. PAUL AND THE FIRST UNITED METHODIST CHURCH AND LASTLY WE HAVE THE ANDREW'S HOUSE, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF LOCATION, THE FIRST THREE ARE -- SO THE FIRST TWO ARE ALONG WOOLBRIGHT. YOU CAN SEE LITTLE LEAGUE PARK. YOU CAN SEE NORTH OF THAT WITHIN THE OCEAN AVENUE AREA WE HAVE THE ANDREW'S HOUSE. THE NEXT THREE ARE GENERALLY LOCATED WITHIN THE HEART OF BOYNTON AREA, ALONG MARTIN LUTHER KING, WE HAVE GREATER STT WE HAVE ST. JOHN'S MISSIONARY BAPTIST. SOUTH OF BOYNTON BEACH BOULEVARD, WE HAVE THE FIRST UNITED METHODIST CHURCH. SO I WANTED TO REVIEW THE PROCESS FOR DESIGNATION FIRST. SO THESE SIX ITEMS HAVE BEEN INITIATED OR NOMINATED BY THE BOARD. THESE HAVE NOT BEEN APPLICANT DRIVEN. SO THE OWNERS OF THESE PROPERTIES HAVE NOT BEEN INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS YET. WE DID SEND NOTICES THAT THIS WAS HAPPENING TODAY SO THEY ARE INFORMED THAT IT IS UNDER CONSIDERATION. HOWEVER, THE ACTIONS TODAY ARE JUST IF YOU WANT TO UPHOLD THE NOMINATIONS FOR STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD AND NOT APPROVING ANY TYPE OF DESIGNATION. SO IF WE GET THE DIRECTION TO MOVE FORWARD, THE NEXT STEPS WOULD BE TO HAVE THE HISTORIC STUDIES DONE. THE VALUES OF THOSE STUDIES, THE ESTIMATE RIGHT NOW IS ABOUT $17,000 TO GET THOSE STUDIES DONE. STAFF WOULD REVIEW THE CODE, REVIEW THE STUDIES AND COME UP WITH A RECOMMENDATION. THEY ARE THEN PUBLICLY NOTICED. THEY THEN GO TO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD FOR RECOMMENDATION. AND ULTIMATELY, THE CITY COMMISSION WOULD APPROVE THE ITEMS OR NOT APPROVE THE ITEMS AND THEY COME BEFORE YOU AS AN ORDINANCE. AND THEN THEY ARE RECORDED INTO THE OFFICIAL RECORDS BOOK OF PALM BEACH COUNTY. SO AT THE FIRST CURSORY REVIEW -- SO, YOU KNOW, TO BE CLEAR, THOSE STUDIES HAVE NOT BEEN DONE YET. THEY HAVE NOT BEEN INITIATED BECAUSE THESE ARE NON-BUDGETED ITEMS. IN FIRST REVIEW OF THE CODE, THE CRITERIA FOR CONSIDERATION SAYS THAT ORDINARILY, CEMETERIES AND RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS AND STRUCTURES THAT HAVE BEEN MOVED FROM THEIR ORIGINAL LOCATIONS -- SO THAT COVERS ALL OF THE ITEMS BEFORE YOU, EXCEPT FOR ONE OF THEM WHICH WOULD BE LITTLE LEAGUE. IT ISN'T FITTING INTO THIS CATEGORY. ESSENTIALLY SAYS THAT THEY SHALL NOT BE CONSIDERED ELIGIBLE FOR THE BOYNTON BEACH REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES. NOW, THERE ARE UP TO SEVEN DIFFERENT EXCEPTIONS THAT MAY BE REVIEWED THROUGH A STUDY. HOWEVER, NONE ARE OBVIOUSLY APPARENT AT THIS TIME. SO WE WOULD LIKE FURTHER DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD. IF THERE'S ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC OR ANY OF THE OWNERS WHO HAVE GOTTEN THESE NOTICES, THEY MAY BE PRESENT TO SPEAK ON THIS. HOWEVER, WE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW THE CITY WISHES TO HANDLE THIS. YES. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU, AMANDA. IF I HEARD YOU CORRECTLY, YOU HAVE NOTICED IT TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS BUT WE HAVE NOT NECESSARILY HEARD FROM ALL OF THEM. DID I HEAR YOU CORRECT? >> THAT'S CORRECT, THAT'S CORRECT. >> MAYOR: OKAY. GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO TO PIGGYBACK WHAT MAYOR JUST ASKED, THIS PROCESS HAS BEEN STARTED WITHOUT CONVERSATION OR DIALOGUE FROM A PROPERTY OWNER. >> THAT IS CORRECT. THIS WAS A NOMINATION OF THE HISTORIC RESOURCES PRESERVATION BOARD. >> AND SO SOME OF THEM I CAN MAYBE SEE AND I CAN GO THROUGH THE LIST. BUT FOR A PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNE. WHAT ARE THE RESTRICTIONS IF AN HISTORIC -- IF IT'S DEEMED HISTORIC, WHAT ARE THE RESTRICTIONS THAT GO ALONG WITH THAT? I KNOW THERE ARE SOME TAX INCENTIVES AND THERE MAY BE SOME CONSTRUCTION ISSUES. CAN YOU GIVE ME, YOU KNOW, AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT THAT ACTUALLY MEANS FOR THE PUBLIC? >> YEAH. YOU KNOW, HISTORIC PRESERVATION AND LIKE AN OVERARCHING THEME DOES HAVE SOME STRONG ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT VALUE TO IT. HOWEVER, THERE ARE OBVIOUS RESTRICTIONS THAT WILL BE IMPOSED ON THE PROPERTY IF DEEMED HISTORIC. IT IS NOT NECESSARILY YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING. IT'S KIND OF HOW YOU DO ANYTHING. SO IT MAY BE ABLE TO BE EXPANDED, HOWEVER, THERE'S A LIST OF CRITERIA THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO MEET. ORIGINAL TYPE OF MATERIAL, HONORING THE SAME ARCHITECTURE. AND SOME OF THE METAL OF THEM WOULD BE LIMITED OR IT WOULD DEEM SOME CHANGES TO THE PROPERTY INFEASIBLE DUE TO SOME OF THE RESTRICTIONS. BUT IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT CHANGES CANNOT BE MADE TO THE PROPERTY. >> UH-HUH. BUT IT MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT. AND ONE COULD SAY IF YOU ARE FORCED TO UTILIZE CERTAIN MATERIALS, THAT COULD BE MORE OF A COST TO THE PROPERTY OWNER IF THEY WANTED TO EVER DO ANYTHING. >> RIGHT. BECAUSE THE GOAL BEHIND HISTORIC PRESERVATION IS TO PRESERVE. >> SURE. >> SO IF THERE ARE CHANGES OR UPDATES TO THE PROPERTY, THAT THESE PROPERTY OWNERS MAY SEE IN THEIR FUTURE, THIS MAY HINDER SOME OF THOSE -- SOME OF THE FEASIBILITY TO DO THOSE. >> YEAH, YEAH. I'M NOT A FAN OF THE GOVERNMENT IMPOSING A DESIGNATION IF THE PROPERTY OWNER DID NOT INITIATE THAT CONVERSATION. THAT'S EXTREME OVERREACH, REALLY. THAT'S A LITTLE BIT ALARMING THAT THIS IS HOW THE PROCESS IS. WHICH I CAN UNDERSTAND. I UNDERSTAND THE MISSION. I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE PURPOSE IS. AND WE SEE GREAT SUCCESSES IN DELRAY BEACH AND OTHER COMMUNITIES. WE SEE THAT. THERE'S NO ARGUMENT THERE. HOWEVER, IF I'M A PROPERTY OWNER AND THE GOVERNMENT IS TRYING TO INITIATE SOMETHING THAT I DON'T WANT, THAT IS EXTREMELY ALARMING AND THAT IS NOT WHAT GOVERNMENT IS SUPPOSED TO DO. I COULD NEVER GET BEHIND A DESIGNATION ON A PROPERTY THAT SOMEBODY ELSE OWNS. AND JUST TO CLARIFY, YOU SAID NONE OF THESE PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE CITY INITIATED THIS CONVERSATION. THIS IS JUST A ROUGH NOMINATION FROM THE BOARD. >> THAT'S CORRECT. I'M SORRY, WHAT WE DID JUST TO MAKE SURE THEY KNEW THIS WAS HAPPENING, WE SENT THEM CERTIFIED LETTERS. AGAIN, THIS WAS NOT INITIATED BY THEM. WE JUST WANTED THEM TO BE AWARE THAT THIS MAY BE HAPPENING. >> YEAH. >> BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOT ATTENDED THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION MEETINGS. THEY HAVE NOT BEEN IN THE CONVERSATION YET. >> YEAH. I THINK I WOULD IMAGINE IT'S, HEY, WE HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THE BOARD, WHAT ARE SOME PLACES WE WOULD THINK. I GET THAT. I DEFINITELY GET THAT. BUT I THINK TO BRING IT UP WITHOUT EVEN INVOLVING THE PROPERTY OWNER IS A LITTLE BIT ALARMING. YOU KNOW, THE LITTLE LEAGUE PARK AND, YOU KNOW, THE CEMETERY, I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN WITH LITIGATION AND EVERYTHING GOING ON OVER THERE AND THE POTENTIAL, WHO'S TO SAY LATER DOWN THE ROAD THE CEMETERY EXPANDS OR SOMETHING ELSE EXPANDS. WHO'S TO SAY, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD PREVENT OR COULD HINDER ANY, YOU KNOW, ENHANCES OR EXPANSION OF A POTENTIAL CEMETERY. AND SO I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THOSE. DEFINITELY NOT OF THE PRIVATE PROPERTY. ^FOR ST. JOHN'S I'LL DEFER TO MY FRIEND HERE AND FOLLOW HIM ON THAT. WITH THE CHURCHES, IT'S A DIFFERENT STORY. BUT THE PRIVATE PROPERTY WITHOUT THE INITIATION, I JUST CANNOT GET BEHIND. >> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STAFF CAN OFFER AS AN ALTERNATIVE TO MOVING FORWARD WITH NOMINATION IS REACHING OUT TO EACH OF THESE PROPERTY OWNERS AND OFFERING INFORMATION ON DESIGNATION ON SOME OF THE BENEFITS OF DESIGNATION, ON THE PROCESS OF DESIGNATION, AND INVITE THEM TO APPLY IF THEY WISH. >> YEAH. I THINK THAT WOULD BE -- I MEAN THAT IS MORE PRACTICAL, RIGHT. YOU KNOW, IF I'M A PROPERTY OWNER AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL PROPERTY AND IT PRESERVES THE CULTURE OF BOYNTON BEACH AND I WANT TO DESIGNATE IT, THAT'S COME BEFORE US BEFORE. WE HAVE SEEN THAT, YOU KNOW, AND WE HAVE HONORED THAT. YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE DRIVEN IF IT'S THE PROPERTY OWNER. THERE'S ALWAYS CATCH-22'S. THERE'S ALWAYS DIFFERENT SCENARIOS WHICH -- AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE A BOARD, RIGHT. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT I DEFINITELY THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO GET TAXPAYERS INVOLVED WITH THE PROCESS INSTEAD OF BEING BLIND-SIDED. >> MAYOR: ALL RIGHT. >> THAT'S JUST MY SENTIMENT. THANK YOU. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. ANYTHING FROM COMMISSIONER HAY? >> YES. FIRST OF ALL, HOW DID YOU PICK ST. JOHN AT 900 NORTH SEACREST BOULEVARD RATHER THAN THE OLD ST. JOHN ON 12th AVENUE WHICH IS AN OLDER CHURCH THAN THE ONE AT 900 SEACREST? >> SO STAFF DID NOT PICK THESE ITEMS. THE HISTORIC BOARD RECOMMENDED THESE ITEMS. >> OKAY. THAT BEING SAID, THE RECOMMENDATION, I COULD NOT -- WELL, LET ME ASK YOU ANOTHER QUESTION. AS WAS STATED BY COMMISSIONER TURKIN, THIS WOULD TIE THE HANDS OF THE PROPERTY OWNER TO SOME EXTENT BECAUSE IF WE WANTED TO GO ONE ROUTE -- I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, WHAT AUTHORITY DOES THE HISTORICAL BOARD HAVE OVER THE PROPERTY OWNER IN TERMS OF SAYING NO, AND WE DISAGREE WITH YOU? WHAT'S -- >> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. SO THE HISTORIC BOARD CURRENTLY IN THE CODE DOES HAVE A RIGHT TO NOMINATE PROPERTIES. HOW FAR, THEY ARE NOT THE APPROVING FACTOR. SINCE IT IS APPROVED VIA ORDINANCE, ONLY THIS COMMISSION CAN ACT ON APPROVING THE DESIGNATION OF AN HISTORIC PROPERTY. SO AT MOST -- AND THE REASON SOME OF THESE NOMINATIONS ARE IN FRONT OF YOU IS BECAUSE TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS ALSO COSTS THE CITY MONEY. THESE ARE STUDIES THAT WE HAVE TO OUTSOURCE. SO BEFORE DOING THAT, THEM NOT BEING APPLICANT INITIATED, WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE PRUDENT TO BRING IT BEFORE THE BOARD BEFORE SPENDING THOSE CITY DOLLARS, ESPECIALLY SINCE THE APPLICANTS HAVE NOT BEEN INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS YET. >> YOU KNOW, TO BE NOMINATED, I GUESS THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE AN HONOR AND APPRECIATE THAT. BUT BY THE SAME TOKEN, WHEN I LOOK AT THE PROS AND THE CONS, I DON'T SEE THE ADVANTAGE. THE ADVANTAGES DON'T OUTWEIGH THE CONS BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING READY TO MAKE SOME MODIFICATIONS TO OUR CHURCH. AND CERTAINLY, I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH ANOTHER LAYER OF AUTHORITY TO DO WHAT WE WANT TO DO TO OUR PROPERTY AND OUR CHURCH. >> COMMISSIONER HAY, THAT'S A GREAT WAY TO DESCRIBE IT -- IS AN ADDITIONAL LAYER OF REGULATION. >> OKAY. >> SO IT IS -- THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT IS. AND NOT ONLY ARE THERE ADDITIONAL REGULATIONS, BUT MODIFICATIONS TO AN HISTORIC SITE WOULD REQUIRE WHAT IS CALLED A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS. AND THOSE ARE APPROVED BY THE HISTORIC BOARD. THE COMMISSION DOES NOT SEE THOSE. >> AND I CAN APPRECIATE THAT. BUT UNTIL I GET MORE INPUT AS TO WHAT THOSE ADVANTAGES ARE, I'M NOT CONVINCED AT THIS POINT. NOW THE CHURCH ON MLK, ST. PAUL, GREATER ST. PAUL, THAT CHURCH IS THE OLDEST CHURCH IN OUR AREA. AND I CAN SEE THAT ONE BEING, YOU KNOW, MAYBE VENTURING OUT BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE PROPERTY. THERE IS HOUSING NEXT-DOOR ON BOTH SIDES AND IN BACK. SO THERE'S NOT MUCH THEY CAN EXPAND. >> YEAH. >> BUT CERTAINLY, I WOULD SAY YOU NEED TO TALK WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS BEFORE ANYTHING ELSE IS DONE. I THINK THAT'S JUST PLAIN COMMONSENSE AND LOGIC. >> UNDERSTOOD. >> IT IS A NICE START, OKAY. FOR ME, SINCE I'M A MEMBER AT ST. JOHN MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH, I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION FOR ME TO SUPPORT SUCH AN IDEA AS THIS UNTIL I TALK WITH YOU MORE AND TALK WITH THE PASTOR AT ST. JOHN, THE DEACONS AND ALL THE TRUSTEES AND YADA, YADA, YADA. WHEN WE GET TO THAT CROSSROAD, THEN WE MAKE A DECISION. BUT CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, IT'S A START. I WOULD NOT SUPPORT IT AT THIS POINT. >> UNDERSTOOD. AND, LIKE I SAID, WE CAN AS AN ALTERNATIVE OF MOVING FORWARD WITH THESE NOMINATIONS -- WE CAN REACH OUT INDIVIDUALLY AND PERSUADE IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE PRIVATE APPLICATIONS, MEANING THESE WILL NOT -- IF IT IS THE WILL OF THIS COMMISSION, THESE WON'T PRECEDE AS CITY INITIATED BUT THEY MAY PROCEED AS PRIVATE INITIATED. >> SO WHAT IS THE PLAN TO TALK WITH THESE LOCATIONS SOON, THESE PROPERTY OWNERS? >> IF THAT IS THE WISH OF THE COMMITTEE. SO THE WAY THE PROCESS IS RIGHT NOW, THE NOMINATION WAS MADE. I'M ASKING IF IT IS WITHHELD BY THE COMMISSION. IF IT IS UPHELD BY THE COMMISSION, WE WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH REPORTS AND MOVE FORWARD WITH DESIGNATION. IF THE NOMINATIONS ARE NOT UPHELD BY THIS COMMISSION, I CAN COMMIT TO REACHING OUT INDIVIDUALLY TO EACH OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS, PROVIDING INFORMATION ON HISTORIC PRESERVATION DESIGNATION. AND OFFERING THEM TO APPLY TO THE DESIGNATED IF THEY CHOOSE. >> OKAY. AND THAT'S THE RIGHT WAY TO GO. LIKE I'M SPEAKING ABOUT ST. JOHN BECAUSE I'M A MEMBER. >> YES. >> TALK TO THE PASTOR, TALK TO THE LEADERS AND GET THEIR VIEW OF THIS WHOLE PROCESS. AND THEN WE WOULD APPLY AND FILL OUT THE APPLICATION TO BECOME HISTORIC AND ALL THAT OR WE WILL SAY THANK YOU, BUT NO, THANK YOU. >> EXACTLY. >> THANK YOU. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. I SUPPORT THAT AS WELL. I WANT TO HEAR FROM THE PROPERTY OWNERS FIRST. >> THANK YOU. >> MAYOR: ANYTHING ELSE FROM MY COLLEAGUES? VICE MAYOR? >> YEAH. THANK YOU, AMANDA. YOU KNOW, I DON'T SUPPORT THIS. AND MY CONCERN IS THAT I DON'T KNOW IF MY COLLEAGUES KNOW THIS, BUT WHEN THIS PROCESS WAS STARTED -- AND THIS IS MY UNDERSTANDING -- IS THAT IT THEN KIND OF STOPPED PROPERTIES. LIKE THIS NOMINATION IS NOW RIDING ALONG WITH THAT PROPERTY. SO IF FOR SOME REASON ONE OF THESE PROPERTIES DECIDED TOMORROW OR DECIDED YESTERDAY TO SELL OR APPLY FOR A PERMIT OR DO ANYTHING, THEY WOULD BE BARRED FROM DOING THAT BASED ON THIS PENDING NOMINATION. SO I AM REALLY CONCERNED THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS OUT OF OUR CONTROL, THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE IS THIS POTENTIAL -- ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU HAVE PROPERTIES THAT HAVEN'T INITIATED OR THAT HAVEN'T EVEN BEEN IN AS PART OF THE PROCESS. YOU KNOW, I COULD UNDERSTAND IF THEY WERE INVITED TO THE MEETINGS AND WERE PART OF THE CONVERSATION AND WERE ON-BOARD AND SUPPORTIVE OF BRINGING THIS TO THE COMMISSION BEFORE AN OFFICIAL NOMINATION WAS ON THE PLATE. AND SO I AM FINE WITH YOU REACHING OUT TO THEM INDEPENDENTLY, BUT I AM NOT GOING TO DO THAT WITHOUT THIS BEING COMPLETELY KIBOSHED TONIGHT BUT I WANT THESE PROPERTY OWNERS TO FEEL LIKE THEY ARE IN CONTROL OF WHAT'S GOING ON AND THAT WE ARE NOT BARRING THEM FROM DOING ANYTHING MOVING FORWARD. WHETHER WE EVALUATE IT LATER OR NOT OR REACH OUT TO THEM AND THEY WANT TO PURSUE IT, THEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A DIFFERENT ANIMAL. BUT THAT'S SOMETHING -- WHEN I LEARNED THAT, IT'S VERY CONCERNING FOR ME BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I'M VERY PRO, YOU KNOW, PRESERVING HISTORIC IN PARTICULAR HOMES. BUT WHEN THEY ARE NOT IN OUR CONTROL, THERE'S A FINE LINE THERE. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT. >> I HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS. >> AND, VICE MAYOR, THE WAY IT IS CURRENTLY SITUATED, YOU ARE RIGHT. SOME OF THESE DECISIONS ARE, YOU KNOW, FOR LACK OF BETTER OUTSIDE OF THE COMMISSION'S CONTROL. HOWEVER, WITH CONSENSUS FROM THE COMMISSION, IT IS ALL WITHIN THE LDRs AND ALL FULLY WITHIN THIS BOARD'S POWER TO CHANGE. SO IF THERE ARE CONCERNS WITH THE POWERS AND DUTIES OF THIS BOARD, THAT IS ABSOLUTELY SOMETHING THAT I CAN TAKE A LOOK AT AND CODE AMENDMENTS CAN BE BROUGHT FORWARD IF DESIRED. >> MAYOR: I'LL COME BACK TO BOTH OF YOU. JUST LET ME GO THROUGH COMMISSIONER CRUZ FIRST. SHE HASN'T SPOKEN. >> I KNOW WE HAVE HAD A PRETTY LENGTHY CONVERSATION. I DO AGREE WITH WHAT'S BEEN SAID EARLIER ABOUT LITIGATE THE HOMEOWNER MAKE THE DECISION ON THEIR OWN PROPERTY. THEY SHOULD HAVE PROPERTY RIGHTS AND CONTINUE TO HAVE THAT. THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THE BOARD MAKING A RECOMMENDATION, BUT NOT TO THE EXTENT TO WHERE WE ARE FORBIDDING THEM FROM DOING ANYTHING. THAT'S IT. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU. ARE THERE FOLLOW-UP COMMENTS HERE? REVERSE ORDER, COMMISSIONER HAY AND THEN COMMISSIONER TURKIN. >> I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THERE'S NOTHING BINDING HERE. THIS IS JUST A LIST OF YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS SO THERE'S NOTHING BINDING THE PROPERTY OWNER FROM DOING WHATEVER THEY ARE DOING. THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT THIS. SO I CAN'T SEE WHERE -- >> COMMISSIONER HAY -- >> THERE'S NOTHING BINDING. >> THIS PROCESS HAS CAUSED ME TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF A DEEP DIVE IN THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION CHAPTER. AND THERE WERE SOME AMENDMENTS BROUGHT FORWARD BY MY PREDECESSOR THAT ALLOWS FOR THE BOARD TO HOLD UP DEMOLITIONS, EXPANSIONS OF PROPERTIES BASED ON AN ACTION OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD IF THEY SEE FIT OR IF THEY SEE HISTORIC VALUE. SO THERE ARE SOME THINGS IN THERE. AND THEY HAVE NOT BEEN EXERCISED, SO I'LL SAY THAT. >> YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE DEMOLITION -- >> DEMOLITION PERMITS COULD BE HELD UP. AND THERE'S A TIME LIMIT. I BELIEVE IT'S 90 DAYS. BUT THERE ARE SOME THINGS IN THERE THAT ARE NEWS TO ME OR FAIRLY NEW WITHIN THE REGULATIONS. AND THEY EXIST. SO IF IT IS THE WILL OF THIS COMMISSION, I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE A LOOK THROUGH THEM AND BRING BACK SOME RECOMMENDATIONS IF THIS IS SOMETHING THE COMMISSION NOT COMFORTABLE WITH. >> I CAN SEE US CREATING OUR OWN PROBLEM, SHOOTING OURSELVES IN THE FOOT. THIS MAKES NO SENSE TO ME. >> MAYOR: COMMISSIONER TURKIN. >> YEAH. SO, VICE MAYOR KELLEY, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT UP BECAUSE I DID NOT KNOW THAT. SO A COUPLE OF THINGS I'M HEARING HERE. "A," IF WE WERE TO SAY, HEY, YEAH, WE LIKE THIS ONE, WE LIKE "B" OR "C," THAT'S GOING TO COST THE TAXPAYERS TO DO A STUDY ON SOMETHING THAT POTENTIALLY THE PROPERTY OWNERS MAY NOT EVEN WANT. AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, WHAT WE HAVE SEEN IS THE WEAPONIZATION OF A NOMINATION THAT COULD POTENTIALLY HINDER ANY RECONSTRUCTION, DEMOLITION OR ENHANCEMENT TO A PROJECT. IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING? THAT SMELLS LAWSUIT ALL OVER IT. WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT. I JUST SEE THAT -- I SEE POTENTIAL LITIGATION. I MEAN BECAUSE YOU'RE GETTING INTO SOME MUDDY WATER THERE. AND I THINK WE NEED TO DO A DEEP DIVE. AND I'M GLAD THAT YOU BROUGHT THAT UP AND I'M GLAD THAT THE VICE MAYOR BROUGHT THAT UP. BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER HAY SAID PERFECTLY. WE MAY BE CREATING OUR OWN PROBLEM. WITH THAT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO DISMISS THESE NOMINATIONS. >> MAYOR: DO WE NEED A FORMAL NOMINATION, LIKE A FORMAL MOTION? IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE CLEAR CONSENSUS. >> I THINK YOU JUST NEED CONSENSUS. THE CONSENSUS COULD BE ONE OR TWO THINGS. TO KILL IT ALL TOGETHER OR TO NOT GO FORWARD WITH IT ON THE CAVEAT THAT AMANDA WILL DO ADDITIONAL CONTACT WITH THE HOMEOWNERS. >> AND/OR A REVIEW OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION CODES FOR SOME RECOMMENDATIONS. >> MAYOR: THAT'S A THIRD ITEM. ONE THING AT A TIME. >> MAYOR, I JUST MENTION THAT YOU MAY HAVE SOME PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT MAY WANT TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM. >> MAYOR: OKAY. >> I'M OKAY WITH THAT. >> MAYOR: ANY OBJECTION? NO OBJECTIONS? ALL RIGHT. >> YOU'D HAVE TO DO A MOTION TO ALLOW PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM. >> MOTION TO APPROVE PUBLIC AUDIENCE ON THIS ITEM. >> AS TO HOMEOWNERS. >> AS TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS. >> CORRECT. >> WITH THE LISTED NOMINATIONS. >> SECOND. >> MAYOR: WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO ALLOW PUBLIC COMMENTS FROM PROPERTY OWNERS ONLY OR REPRESENTATIVES OF THESE PROPERTIES, SAY AYE. [AYES] ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ALL RIGHT. IF YOU ARE A PROPERTY OWNER OR YOU REPRESENT THE PROPERTY OWNE. WE HAVE ONE INDIVIDUAL SO FAR. >> GOOD EVENING, COMMISSION, DAVID MILLAGE ON BEHALF OF MANDY MATTO THE OWNER OF 306 SOUTHEAST FIRST AVENUE AS YOU CALL ANDREWS HOUSE. WE STRONGLY OPPOSE THE NOMINATION OR ANY HISTORIC DESIGNATION OF THE PROPERTY. THERE IS NO SIGNIFICANCE ABOUT THE LAND. THE STRUCTURE IS NOT ARCHITECTURALLY SIGNIFICANT. THE SIDING AND THE ROOF HAVE BEEN REPLACED. MANY OF THE WINDOWS ARE NOT ORIGINAL. THEY WERE INSTALLED SOMETIME IN THE LATE 1990s. DOORS HAVE BEEN REMOVED IN PLACES, ADDED OTHER PLACES. IT HAS A NEW FOUNDATION. AND NO ONE OF SIGNIFICANCE EVER LIVED IN THE ANDREWS HOUSE. SO AS AMANDA HAS DISCUSSED, THERE ARE SPECIFIC GUIDELINES FOR HISTORIC DESIGNATION. IT'S ESSENTIALLY A THREE-PRONGED TEST THAT'S CODIFIED IN YOUR SECTION 6-B-1. I CAN GO THROUGH 20 DIFFERENT REASONS WHY THIS WOULDN'T QUALIFY. MOREOVER IN SECTION 6. B2 AS AMANDA POINTED OUT, WHENEVER A STRUCTURE IS MOVED, WHETHER IT'S AN INCH OR A MILE, IT NO LONGER IN THE CODE SPECIFICALLY STATES SHALL NOT BE CONSIDERED HISTORIC, ALTHOUGH THERE IS A CAVEAT TO WHERE THERE IS ADDITIONAL CRITERIA THAT CAN BE REVIEWED. I HAVE REVIEWED THAT CRITERIA. IT'S ANOTHER SEVEN CRITERIA AND THIS WOULD NOT FALL INTO IT. SO OUT OF THIS THREE OR FOUR-PRONGED TEST WE WOULDN'T QUALIFY. SO JUST FOR THE RECORD AND REGARDLESS OF HOW THE BOARD PROCEEDS, WE WILL STRONGLY OBJECT TO THIS DESIGNATION. >> MAYOR: ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. IS THERE ANY OTHER -- ARE THERE ANY OTHER REPRESENTATIVES OR PROPERTY OWNERS HERE? OKAY. GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER. >> I'D JUST LIKE TO STATE THAT REALLY THE HISTORIC RESOURCES PRESERVATION BOARD, I THINK THEIR HEART IS IN THE RIGHT PLACE. BUT I THINK THE APPROACH IS WRONG. AND SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE IS FOR THEM TO CONTINUE THIS BY TALKING TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS FIRST AND SEE IF THEY HAVE ANY INTEREST IN GOING THAT DIRECTION. IF NOT, DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME. JUST GO ON TO THE NEXT ONE. BUT, YOU KNOW, I CAN TELL YOU UP-FRONT THAT, YOU KNOW, THE ONE ON -- ST. JOHN ON 900 NORTH SEACREST IS NOT GOING TO BE A CANDIDATE. BUT YOU CAN STILL TALK TO THE PASTOR. [LAUGHTER] >> MAYOR: ALL RIGHT. SO LET'S MOVE ON. WE NEED TO PROVIDE CLARITY AND THE DIRECTION TO STAFF. AMANDA HAS PRESENTED AN ALTERNATIVE HERE WHERE THEY REACH OUT TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS, PROVIDE INFORMATION. AND IF THE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE INTERESTED AND IF THEY BELIEVE THAT'S IN THEIR BEST INTEREST, THEY WILL COME BACK TO US WITH THIS. DID I UNDERSTAND THAT CORRECTLY, AMANDA? >> DO WE NEED A MOTION ON THAT? >> MAYOR: NO FORMAL MOTION JUST CONSENSUS. ARE WE IN FAVOR OF THIS ALTERNATIVE? >> YES. >> AND TO REVIEW THE PROCESS. >> MAYOR: AND THAT'S PART NUMBER TWO. THAT WAS THE REQUEST THAT AMANDA MADE TO REVIEW THE PROCESS. >> YES. >> MAYOR: AND TO COME BACK TO STAFF WITH RECOMMENDATIONS. DO WE HAVE CONSENSUS? >> YES. >> YES. >> MAYOR: SOUNDS GOOD. THANK YOU. >> WONDERFUL. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU SO MUCH, AMANDA, AND EVERYONE ELSE INVOLVED. WITH THAT, WE HAVE CONCLUDED ALL THE ITEMS FOR THIS EVENING. MAY WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. >> MOTION TO ADJOURN. >> SECOND. >> MAYOR: MOTION AND SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF ADJOURNING, SAY AYE. [AYES] THIS MOTION IS ADJOURNED. THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO STAYED AND PARTICIPATED. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.