##VIDEO ID:pu3WZtI4p9s## >> MAYOR: GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. IT IS NOW 6:00 P.M. WE WILL BEGIN IN A FEW MOMENTS. IF YOU WILL MOVE TO YOUR SEATS, WE'LL BEGIN IN A FEW MOMENTS. >> MAYOR: LET'S BEGIN. GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY. AND WELCOME TO THE CITY OF BOYNTON BEACH CITY COMMISSION MEETING. TODAY IS MONDAY SEPTEMBER 23rd, 2024. THE TIME IS NOW 6:02 P.M. AND THIS MEETING IS CALLED TO ORDER. BEFORE WE PROCEED WITH THE ROLL CALL, I JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY OF OUR RULES OF CIVILITY AND DECORUM. PUBLIC COMMENTS MUST BE ADDRESSED TO THE BOARD AS A WHOLE THROUGH THE CHAIR AND NOT INTERRUPT ANY OTHER SPEAKERS. PERSONAL ATTACKS, INSULTS ARE STRICTLY PROHIBITED. DEMONSTRATIONS, DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIORS ARE STRICTLY PROHIBITED. YOU WILL BE PROVIDED WARNING. SHOULD YOU VIOLATE THESE RULES, YOU WILL BE ASKED TO LEAVE. MAYLEE, IF YOU COULD BEGIN. >> MAYOR PENSERGA. >> MAYOR: HERE. >> VICE MAYOR KELLEY. >> HERE. >> COMMISSIONER CRUZ. >> HERE. >> COMMISSIONER HAY. >> HERE. >> COMMISSIONER TURKIN. >> PRESENT. >> MAYOR, YOU HAVE A QUORUM. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU SO MUCH. OUR INVOCATION FOR THIS EVENING WILL BE LED BY PASTOR CHRIST BRE HUTSON, LET'S STAND FOR THE INVOCATION AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. >> THANK YOU. LET'S BOW OUR HEADS. FATHER, WE COME BEFORE YOU GRATEFUL FOR A DAY THAT YOU HAVE BROUGHT LIFE. FATHER, TONIGHT WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD JUST BE WITH THIS COUNCIL, THAT THEIR WORDS, THEIR DESIRES, FATHER, THEIR DECISIONS WOULD BE OF YOU. AND, FATHER, AS WE CELEBRATE SOME GREAT MILESTONES OF THOSE IN THIS COMMUNITY, WE ARE THANKFUL FOR THE LIFE AND LONGEVITY THAT YOU HAVE BROUGHT TO THIS PLACE, BOYNTON BEACH, FATHER. WE IN THIS SEASON ESPECIALLY ASK THAT YOU WOULD BRING PEACE AND CIVILITY, FATHER. THAT YOU WOULD HELP US TO SEE YOUR CREATION ABOVE OUR OWN DESIRES. FATHER, AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS MEETING, WE PRAY YOU WOULD BE HONORED BY THE WORDS AND THE ACTIONS OF THOSE THAT ARE IN THIS SPACE, FATHER. NO MATTER THEIR DESIRES, NO MATTER THEIR HEART, NO MATTER THEIR CONVICTIONS, THAT THEY WOULD DESIRE TO PUT YOU ABOVE ALL ELSE. FATHER, THANK YOU FOR TIMES LIKE THIS, IN YOUR HOLY AND AWESOME NAME WE PRAY. AMEN. >> Group: I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> MAYOR: PASTOR BRYCE, THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER HAY, THANK YOU, BOTH OF YOU. LET'S MOVE ON NOW TO THE AGENDA APPROVAL, ADDITIONS, DELETIONS, CORRECTIONS TO THE AGENDA. I HAVE NO REQUESTS FOR THIS EVENING, BUT LET'S GO AROUND THE DAIS. LET'S BEGIN WITH COMMISSIONER TURKIN, IF YOU HAVE ANY REQUESTS. NO. COMMISSIONER HAY, ANY REQUESTS? >> NO. >> MAYOR: VICE MAYOR KELLEY. >> NO, THANK YOU, MAYOR. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER CRUZ. >> NO, MAYOR. >> MAYOR: WITH THAT, MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AS PRESENTED. >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> MAYOR: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER TURKIN, SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER HAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTIO- >> I APOLOGIZE. I DO HAVE A REQUEST FOR THIS MEETING TO ADD COMMUNITY SUPPORT FUNDS AND I HAVE ALREADY WORKED WITH THE CITY CLERK TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. >> MAYOR: EXCELLENT. SO WHICH AREA IS THAT? ADMINISTRATIVE. WE'LL MAKE THAT 5B. SO THE REQUEST HERE IS 5B, COMMUNITY SUPPORT FUNDS REQUESTED BY COMMISSIONER CRUZ. >> THANK YOU. >> MAYOR: ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONER TURKIN, DO YOU WANT TO PROCEED WITH THE MOTION? >> YES, MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THE AMENDMENT FOR COMMUNITY SUPPORT FUNDS. >> MAYOR: EXCELLENT. >> SECOND. >> MAYOR: WE'VE GOT OUR SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER HAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO AMEND THE AGENDA AS DISCUSSED SAY AYE. [AYES] ANYONE OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THE AGENDA IS APPROVED. NOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE 2A, INFORMATIONAL ITEMS FROM MEMBERS OF THE CITY COMMISSION. AND LET'S BEGIN ON MY RIGHT THIS TIME, COMMISSIONER CRUZ. INFORMATIONAL ITEMS? >> WE'LL DO DISCLOSURES LATER, RIGHT? >> FOR PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS, WE CAN DO IT -- I'M SORRY, COUNSEL, WHAT WAS THAT? >> THERE'S ONLY ONE THAT NEEDS IT AND WE'LL DO IT AT THE TIME OF THE ITEM. >> MAYOR: YES. >> ONLY ONE THING. I DO WANT TO SAY FOR DISCLOSURES THAT I DID SPEAK TO THE NONPROFITS AND ENTITIES WITH REGARD TO THE COMMUNITY SUPPORT FUNDS. >> MAYOR: OKAY, ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. VICE MAYOR, ANY INFORMATIONAL ITEMS? >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I WANTED TO DISCLOSE THAT I HAVE SPOKEN WITH NEIL SHILLER WITH REGARD TO 10C AND THAT'S MY DISCLOSURES. THANK YOU. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER HAY. >> NO DISCLOSURES BUT I DO WANT TO THANK THE CITY OF BOYNTON BEACH FOR THEIR PROCLAMATION TO ST. JOHN MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH FOR THEIR 116th CHURCH ANNIVERSARY THIS PAST SUNDAY. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> MAYOR: ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONER TURKIN. >> FOR DISCLOSURES WE'RE GOING TO GET TO INFORMATIONAL ITEMS, CORRECT? >> MAYOR: THIS IS THE INFORMATIONAL ITEMS. >> PERFECT. FOR DISCLOSURES, I DID SPEAK WITH NEIL SHILLER AND I DID RECEIVE A CORRESPONDENCE FROM RED SPEED. I RECEIVED AN EMAIL CORRESPONDENCE FROM STEVEN ABRAMS. I BELIEVE HE REPRESENTS ANOTHER VENDOR ULTIMATE. AND THEN HASSAN NABAHA WHO REPRESENTS -- LET'S SEE HERE. GENOPTIC. I RECEIVED EMAIL FROM ALL OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS. I'D LIKE TO THANK THE CITY STAFF, CITY ATTORNEY, DEPUTY CITY TERRANO, BARBARA, CHELSEA TO JOIN ME TO WISH SUSHI SIMON A HUGE CONGRATULATIONS FOR WINNING THE NUMBER ONE SUSHI RESTAURANT, NOT JUST IN PALM BEACH COUNTY, BUT THE WHOLE TREASURE COAST. AND THAT IS A HUGE ACCOMPLISHMENT. THIS IS A LOCAL BOYNTON BEACH BUSINESS. YOU KNOW, THAT WORKS DAY IN AND DAY OUT AT THAT RESTAURANT. AND, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A VOTE AND WENT LATE INTO THE NIGHT. THEY WON 58% OF THE VOTE. SO I JUST WANT TO GIVE THEM A HUGE ROUND OF APPLAUSE AND KUDOS. THANK YOU, GUYS, FOR COMING OUT. THANKS. [APPLAUSE] >> MAYOR: THANK YOU SO MUCH, EVERYONE. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ANNOUNCEMENTS, COMMUNITY AN SPECIAL EVENTS AND PRESENTATIONS. THE VERY FIRST ITEM 3A IS A PROCLAMATION FOR THE 76th ANNIVERSARY OF BOYNTON BEACH KIWANIS. I'M GOING TO READ THIS PROCLAMATION AND PRESENT THIS TO THOMAS RAMICHIO COMMEMORATING THE 76th ANNIVERSARY OF BOYNTON BEACH KIWANIS. THE PROCLAMATION READS AS FOLLOWS. KIWANIS IS A GLOBAL ORGANIZATION OF VOLUNTEERS DEDICATED TO IMPROVING THE WORLD ONE CHILD AND COMMUNITY AT A TIME, THE KIWANIS MOTTO IS SERVING THE CHILDREN OF THE WORLD AND WHEREAS THE BOYNTON BEACH KIWANIS HAS BEEN SERVING THE NEEDS OF UNDERPRIVILEGED CHILDREN SINCE 1948, THE BOYNTON BEACH KIWANIS IS PROUD OF ITS CURRENT SERVICE PROJECTS. TWO READING OASIS AT OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, POINCIANA AND ROLLING GREEN ELEMENTARY. HERE CHILDREN CAN TAKE A BOOK, READ IT AND TAKE IT HOME FOREVER. BOYNTON KIWANIS PARTNERS WITH SCHOLASTIC BOOKS SO IT IS NO COST TO THE CHILDREN. WHEREAS BOYNTON KIWANIS IS PROUD OF OUR SERVICE PROJECTS WITH THE CITY OF BOYNTON BEACH. IN 2020 AND 2021, KIWANIS FUNDED SWIMMING LESSONS FOR THE CHILDREN AT THE DENTON POOL. DRAWING IS THE NUMBER ONE CAUSE OF DEATH FOR CHILDREN 5 AND UNDER. WE FINANCIALLY SUPPORT SHOP WITH THE COPS ANNUALLY AND ASSIST WITH HOT DOGS AND THE PACKAGING OF THE TOYS. EACH MONTH WE SORT AND PACK FOODS TO BE DISTRIBUTED TO FOOD PANTRIES. KIWANIS HAS LEADERSHIP DEVELOPMENTS SLASH SERVICE PROGRAMS IN EVERY LEVEL OF OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM AND OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WE HAVE K-KIDS, THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF TEACHING OUR YOUTH ABOUT COMMUNITY SERVICE. IN MIDDLE SCHOOL WE HAVE BUILDERS CLUB. IN HIGH SCHOOL WE HAVE KEY CLUB WHICH IN FLORIDA IS THE LARGEST STUDENT-LED SERVICE CLUB IN THE WORLD. IN FLORIDA, WE HAVE 22,000 HIGH SCHOOLERS SERVING OUR COMMUNITIES. WHEREAS BOYNTON KIWANIS MEETS EVERY TUESDAY AT CRACKER BARREL AND NOW, THEREFORE, I TY PENSERGA MAYOR OF THE CITY OF BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA DO HEREBY COMMEMORATE AND HONOR SEPTEMBER 2024 AS THE 76th ANNIVERSARY OF BOYNTON BEACH KIWANIS. SO I'D LIKE TO ASK MR. RAMICCIO TO ACCEPT THE PROCLAMATION AND SAY A FEW WORDS ABOUT WHAT YOUR ORGANIZATION IS DOING. LET'S GIVE THEM A AR ROUND OF APPLAUSE. [APPLAUSE] >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR RECOGNIZING THE BOYNTON BEACH KIWANIS' 76th ANNIVERSARY. I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE A COUPLE OF OUR MEMBERS WHO ARE HERE TODAY, MARK TULHURST, THE PAST PARADE IS HERE. JOE WARREN, 38 YEAR MEMBER, BOTH OF THESE GUYS, JOE AND MARK ARE THE TWO LIAISONS TO OUR TWO KEY CLUBS, ONE IS AT BOYNTON HIGH SCHOOL AND THE OTHER ONE AT CANYON HIGH SCHOOL. SO THEY ARE OUR TWO REPRESENTATIVES FOR THERE. I HANDLE THE TWO ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS. I HANDLE ROLLING GREEN AND POINCIANA. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE FOUND DURING COVID THAT WE WERE HELPING WITH BOOKS AND HELPING WITH ALL THE, YOU KNOW, MOST COMMON THINGS THAT KIWANIS CLUBS DO FOR SCHOOLS TO HELP THEM, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE PRINCIPAL CAME TO US AND SAID, TOM, ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IS WE HAVE THIS LITTLE PANTRY BECAUSE SOMETIMES THE GIRLS OR BOYS COME TO SCHOOL AND THEY MAY NOT HAVE THE APPROPRIATE UNDERWEAR OR SOCKS. SO IF KIWANIS COULD HELP FUND AND WE CAN KEEP THESE ITEMS KIND OF ON THE Q.T. AND THEN WHEN APPROPRIATE, WE COULD HAVE THOSE ITEMS TO DISTRIBUTE. SO WE'RE DOING THAT AS WELL WITH POINCIANA AND WITH ROLLING GREEN ELEMENTARIES AS WELL. THERE'S A LOT OF NEEDS THAT ARE HERE IN THE COMMUNITY. YOU KNOW OUR WORK WITH PACKING THE FOOD. IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO HELP WITH ANYTHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH CHILDREN, UNDERSERVED CHILDREN, WE WANT TO STEP IN AND HELP. WE HELP WITH IMMUNIZATIONS AND PARTNER WITH PALM BEACH COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT SO SCHOOL-AGED CHILDREN CAN GET THE PROPER IMMUNIZATIONS BEFORE THEY GO TO SCHOOL. SO WE HAVE A SHOTS BY 2 PROGRAM THAT WE DO IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT. IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN KIWANIS, WE'D LOVE TO INVITE YOU TO COME TO THE CRACKER BARREL EACH TUESDAY AND I THANK YOU AGAIN FOR RECOGNIZING KIWANIS FOR THEIR 76 YEARS OF SERVICE TO THE CITY OF BOYNTON BEACH. THANK YOU SO MUCH TO ALL OF YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> MAYOR: BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ANNOUNCEMENT, I'D LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE AND ACKNOWLEDGE THE 80th BIRTHDAY OF ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES, COMMISSIONER HAY. I WISH YOU HAPPY BELATED BIRTHDAY. IT WAS THIS FRIDAY. HAPPY BIRTHDAY. >> 80 IS THE NEW 60. >> MAYOR: AND I ALSO HEARD THAT COMING UP VERY SOON IS YOUR 59th WEDDING ANNIVERSARY WITH HIS WIFE MILDRED. SO CONGRATULATIONS. AND TO MANY MORE YEARS. [APPLAUSE] >> IT ONLY TOOK ME 80 YEARS TO LOOK THIS GOOD. [LAUGHTER] THANK YOU. >> MAYOR: OF COURSE. HAPPY BIRTHDAY. OUR NEXT ANNOUNCEMENT IS BY THE BOYNTON WOMEN'S CLUB BOARD MEMBERS CHRISTIE HINTZ. I APOLOGIZE IF I MISPRONOUNCED THE LAST NAME. AND BARBARA ERLICHMAN OF THE 100th BIRTHDAY SELECTION OF THE ADDISON MIZNER DESIGNED HISTORIC WOMAN'S CLUB. >> I'M THE SECOND VICE PRESIDENT DEBRA TUCKER BECAUSE CHRISTIE WAS NOT ABLE TO ATTEND. SO I'M HERE IN HER PLACE. THE BOYNTON WOMAN'S CLUB HAS BEEN SERVING THE COMMUNITY FOR MORE THAN 114 YEARS. IT SERVED AS THE CITY'S FIRST PUBLIC LIBRARY AND THE MEMBERS PROVIDED LIBRARY SERVICES UNTIL 1961. THE BOYNTON WOMAN'S CLUB MEMBERS HAVE PLAYED A SIGNIFICANT ROLE IN THE SOCIAL AND CULTURAL DEVELOPMENT OF BOYNTON BEACH SINCE 1908. GRANTING SCHOLARSHIPS TO BOYNTON AREA HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS WHO WERE ENTERING COLLEGE OR TRADE SCHOOL, AS WELL AS THE MARIE SHEPHERD MATURE WOMAN LEADERSHIP FOR STUDENTS WHO ARE RE-ENTERING THE WORKFORCE. APPLICATION DEADLINES ARE NOVEMBER 1st IF ANYBODY KNOWS ANYONE. WE ALSO SUPPORT LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS SUCH AS HEAD START, GIRL SCOUTS AND FORGOTTEN SOLDIERS PLUS LOCAL CHARITIES SUCH AS SHOP WITH A COP AND OTHER CHARITIES AS REQUESTED. WE CONTINUE TO BE A VITAL THRIVING CLUB AND WELCOME NEW MEMBERS. WE CONTINUE TO MEET IN OUR BELOVED CLUBHOUSE AND THANK ITS OWNER, THE CITY OF BOYNTON BEACH FOR MAINTAINING IT IN GOOD WORKING ORDER. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU. >> OH, I'M SORRY. I ALSO BROUGHT BROCHURES AND I WILL LEAVE THEM WITH KELLEY SO SHE CAN DISTRIBUTE THEM LATER. >> GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS AND MAYOR. MY NAME IS BARBARA ERLICHMAN AND I'M THE THIRD VICE PRESIDENT COMMUNICATIONS OF THE BOYNTON WOMAN'S CLUB. ON BEHALF OF THE MEMBERS OF THE BOYNTON WOMAN'S CLUB, OUR THANKS TO THE CITY OF BOYNTON BEACH FOR ITS OWNERSHIP AND CONTINUED STEWARDSHIP OF THE HISTORIC WOMAN'S CLUB OF BOYNTON BEACH FORMERLY KNOWN AS THE BOYNTON WOMAN'S CLUB. THE HISTORIC WOMAN'S CLUB IS THE ONLY MIZNER DESIGNED BUILDING IN PALM BEACH COUNTY THAT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. SINCE ITS OPENING IN 1925, THE CLUBHOUSE HAS SERVED AS A MEETING PLACE FOR MANY COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS AND CHURCHES. NEXT MARCH THE 22nd, THE BOYNTON WOMAN'S WOMAN IS HOSTING A BIRTHDAY BASH TO CELEBRATE THE BUILDING'S 100th BIRTHDAY. IN THE AFTERNOON, THE PUBLIC WILL BE INVITED TO TOUR THE BUILDING AND SEE EXAMPLES OF MMIZNER'S DESIGN GENIUS, EXPERTS WILL TALK ABOUT THE CITY'S HISTORY AS WELL AS LOCAL ARTISTS. AT 6:00, WE ARE INVITING THE MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES TO MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY. THEN FROM 7:00 UNTIL 9:30, WE GO INTO PARTY MODE. THE CLUBHOUSE WILL BE TRANSFORMED INTO A SPEAK EASY AND FOR $20, GUESTS WILL HAVE THE CHANCE TO PARTY LIKE IT'S 1935. [LAUGHTER] THERE WILL BE FOODS AND DRINKS OF THE 1920s AND PEOPLE CAN DANCE THE NIGHT AWAY TO JAZZ MUSIC OF THE ERA. FOR THE PAST 100 YEARS, THE HISTORIC WOMAN'S CLUB HAS BEEN AND CONTINUES TO BE A BELOVED SITE FOR WEDDINGS, BABY SHOWERS, WAKES, REUNIONS AND ALL SORTS OF GALAS. IT IS AN INVALUABLE ASSET TO THE COMMUNITY. WE ASK THE MAYOR AND THE COMMISSIONERS FOR THEIR SUPPORT FOR THIS MUCH-DESERVED CELEBRATION. THANK YOU. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU SO MUCH, BARBARA AND TO DEBRA AND THE ENTIRE BOARD. >> THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> MAYOR: ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT PORTION OF THE AGENDA FOR PUBLIC AUDIENCE. THIS IS FOR ANYTHING ON CONSENT OR ANYTHING NOT ON THE AGENDA. ALL SPEAKERS HAVE THREE MINUTES PER PERSON AND SAME RULES APPLY AS ALWAYS. THIS IS NOT A Q&A BUT WE ARE TAKING NOTES. >> MAYOR, MY APOLOGIES. I FORGOT TO ADD AN ITEM. IT WAS -- AS EVERYONE KNOWS, THERE'S A POSSIBILITY OF LEGALIZED RECREATIONAL MARIJUANA COMING. AND WE WANTED TO ADD A DISCUSSION ITEM AS FAR AS WHETHER OR NOT LATER ON IN THE FUTURE THE COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO ALLOW DISPENSARIES OR NOT. I THINK THE CITY ATTORNEY CAN SPEAK TO THE LEGALITY OF THAT. AS LONG AS WE MAKE A DECISION PRIOR TO THAT PASSAGE, WE WILL BE ABLE TO BE GRANDFATHERED IN. >> MAYOR: OKAY. SO I GUESS THE NEEDED QUESTION I HAVE IS -- WHAT IS THE TIME SENSITIVITY? IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN PUT ON A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM FOR A FOLLOW-UP MEETING? >> FOR CLARIFICATION, IF WE REGULATE NOT THE MEDICINAL USE BUT WHETHER WE WANT TO REGULATE THE ABILITY TO SELL RECREATIONALLY WITHIN THE CITY, IF WE PASS AN ORDINANCE PRIOR TO IT GOING TO A FACT, ASSUMING IT PASSES IN NOVEMBER -- SO I AM ANTICIPATING IT WILL ACTUALLY GO JANUARY 1. THEN IN ORDER TO GET THE STATE PREEMPTION FOR ALREADY HAVING A LAW ON THE BOOKS, WE'D HAVE TO GET IT ON THE BOOKS BEFORE JANUARY 1. SO I'M GOING TO NEED DIRECTION IF THAT'S SOMETHING THE CITY IS INTERESTED IN TO GET THAT DONE PRIOR TO A POSSIBLE LAW GOING INTO EFFECT. >> MAYOR: IS THIS A CONVERSATION THAT OTHER CITIES ARE HAVING AS WELL? >> YES. ACTUALLY I WENT TO A LUNCHEON WITH OTHER WOMEN, MUNICIPAL LAWYERS IN THE COUNTY. AND IT WAS ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT CAME UP. I KNOW COCONUT CREEK JUST DID IT. WELLINGTON HAS ONE. SO IT IS SOMETHING THAT EVERYONE IS SCRAMBLING TO GET DONE. SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT IF IT'S SOMETHING WE ARE GOING TO DO, WE NEED TO DO IT NOW. >> MAYOR: ALL RIGHT. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WE STILL HAVE A WINDOW. I WOULD RECOMMEND WE PUT THAT ON A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM TO BE DISCUSSED NEXT MEETING. >> I'D LIKE TO ADD IT TO OCTOBE. >> MAYOR: THAT'S OKAY FOR ME. >> FOR DIRECTION AND THAT WILL GIVE ME TIME TO DRAFT AN ORDINANCE AND GET THE TWO READINGS IN. >> MAYOR: ALL RIGHT. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> MAYOR: YEAH, NO OBJECTION TO A FUTURE MEETING DISCUSSION. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> MAYOR: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. SO AGAIN, PUBLIC AUDIENCE, YOU KNOW THE DRILL. LET ME SWITCH TO THE TIMER. GIVE ME ONE MOMENT. STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD AND BEGIN WHEN YOU ARE READY. >> SURE. HI, EVERYBODY. DAVID MERKER, I'M SORRY THOSE WOMEN LEFT BECAUSE THEY MISSED THE PART OF THEIR HISTORY. WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS THE 19th AMENDMENT WHICH GAVE WOMEN THE RIGHT TO VOTE. IN CONGRESS IT WAS PASSED JUNE 4th, 1919 AND FOR WOMEN IT WAS AUGUST 26th, 1920. WHAT THEY REPRESENT IS THE DIRECTION THAT THIS COUNTRY HOPEFULLY WILL KEEP GOING FORWARD. IT'S CALLED THE EQUALITY FOR ALL. AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE ANNOUNCED EVERY YEAR, THEE DATES, AND WHAT IT REPRESENTS FOR ALL THE PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER, STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD AND BEGIN WHEN YOU ARE READY. >> SUSAN OYER, BOYNTON BEACH. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO OUR WONDERFUL UTILITIES DEPARTMENT WHO HAVE BEEN VERY HELPFUL TO ME IN THE LAST WEEK. AND PATRICK HART AS WELL WHO HAS BEEN INCREDIBLY HELPFUL. I HAVE TWO THINGS TO TALK ABOUT. FIRST OF ALL, IT APPEARS FLORIDA PUBLIC UTILITIES IS COMING IN TO MY NEIGHBORHOOD AT THE MOMENT TRYING TO PUT IN NEW GAS LINES, WHICH VERY, VERY FEW PEOPLE USE GAS ANY MORE, ESPECIALLY AFTER THE FIRE ACROSS THE STREET FROM ME ABOUT A YEAR AGO. I WANT TO KNOW EXACTLY HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY USING GAS AND WHY THEY AREN'T JUST COMING AND RIPPING OUT THESE GAS PIPES BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT THEM. THEY ARE DANGEROUS, ESPECIALLY THE ROTTING ONES IN OUR BACK YARDS THAT COULD BLOW UP. AND WE DO NOT WASN'T THEM. ALMOST NO ONE USES GAS. WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO TO GET RID OF THESE PIPES AND TELL FLORIDA PUBLIC UTILITIES NO? AT&T RIPPED UP OUR BACK YARDS ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO. NOW FUP WANTS TO COME RIP UP OUR YARDS AND WE ARE SLATED NEXT YEAR TO HAVE FP&L COME IN AND UNDERGROUND OUR WIRES. HOW MANY TIMES DO OUR YARDS HAVE TO BE RIPPED UP? SAY NO ESPECIALLY IF LITTLE TO NO PEOPLE ARE USING IT WAS IN THEIR HOUSES. MY BIGGER ISSUE TONIGHT -- AND I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO COMMISSIONERS TURKIN AND CRUZ WHO HAVE LISTENED TO THIS. SURPRISE, I HAVE SEPTIC TANKS IN MY YARD. TURNS OUT MY NEIGHBORHOOD DOES. THERE'S HUNDREDS OF HOUSES WITH TWO SEPTIC TANKS IN THEM, ONE FOR THE WASHING MACHINE OUT IN THE GARAGE AND ONE FOR THE HOUSE. MOST OF THE HOUSES, IF NOT ALL OF THEM, GOT TRANSFERRED OVER TO CITY PIPES AT SOME POINT IN THE '60s. MY HOUSE WAS BUILT IN '57, BUT APPARENTLY NOT ALL THE ONES FOR THE WASHING MACHINES GOT SWITCHED OVER, INCLUDING MINE. I AM NOW FACING AN ALMOST $12,000 BILL. IF I'M LUCKY, IT'S 12,000. AND I WANT TO KNOW WHAT GRANTS OR WHAT IS AVAILABLE TO ME BECAUSE I PAY A WHOLE LOT OF TAXES AND THIS WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT'S ON MY SURVEYS. APPARENTLY THE CITY HAS NO RECORDS OF ANYTHING BEFORE '84 TO '86 IN TALKING TO MULTIPLE DEPARTMENT PEOPLE. AND I THINK YOU NOW HAVE HUNDREDS OF HOMES IN FOREST PARK, SEACREST STATES, BOWERS PARK AND THE NORTH END OF TOWN THAT ALL HAVE SEPTIC AND NEED TO BE SWITCHED OVER. THAT IS A HUGE INFRASTRUCTURE COST COMING YOUR DIRECTION. AND HOW ARE YOU GOING TO HELP THE RESIDENTS? AND I'M NOT LOOKING FORWARD TO A $12,000 BILL AND I DON'T THINK IT'S CORRECT, ESPECIALLY IF IT WAS NOT ON THE SURVEYS BECAUSE THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE ANY RECORDS FROM ANYTHING BEFORE '84 TO '86. SO I WAS NOT AWARE WHEN I BOUGHT MY HOUSE. NO ONE APPARENTLY PRIOR TO THAT WAS AWARE EXCEPT THE ORIGINAL OWNERS FROM THE '50s, EARLY '60s. SO PLEASE LET ME KNOW HOW I CAN GET SOME ASSISTANCE, FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE IN THIS BECAUSE I THINK I MORE THAN GIVE NIF MONEY BACK TO THIS CITY. IT'S TIME TO SEND SOME BACK MY DIRECTION AND BE THINKING ABOUT HOW YOU'RE GOING TO APPROACH THIS SEVERAL THOUSAND HOMES POTENTIALLY THAT HAVE THIS PROBLEM IN THIS CITY. THANK YOU. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU. NEXT PUBLIC COMMENT SPEAKER. >> CINDY FALCO DiCORRADO. I CALLED A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO IN REGARDS TO THIS BACK ALLEYWAY WHICH RUNS FROM SEACREST PAST WHERE I LIVE OFF NORTHWEST 1st AVENUE. BEHIND THERE IS GRASSES ABOUT 5, 6 FEET HIGH. I HAVE HAD TO COMPLAIN EVERY TIME IT GETS DONE. IT'S NOT MY JOB TO MAKE SURE THE CITY DOES THEIR JOB BY KEEPING THAT ALLEYWAY CLEAN. I DO WANT TO ALSO ADDRESS ANOTHER SITUATION. I'M NOT CALLING ANYBODY OUT PARTICULARLY, BUT ON THE WORKMANSHIP THAT'S BEEN DONE IN THE SEAT OF A MAYOR. IT'S BEEN THE MOST APPALLING ABUSIVE SITUATION EVER WITH THE MAYOR WE HAVE SITTING IN THE SEAT TODAY. I'M LETTING IT BE KNOWN THAT IT HAS BEEN BRUTAL. I HAVE NEVER COME TO MEETINGS AND BEEN DISHONORED, DISRESPECTED, BEAT UP AND ABUSED ESPECIALLY BY THIS POLICE OFFICER RIGHT HERE TODAY. IT IS UNFATHOM FOR ME TO SEE THIS OFFICER RIGHT HERE THAT GIVES ME PTSD. I GUESS THAT'S WHAT THEY CALL IT WHEN ALL OF YOU WITNESSED HIM ATTACKING ME THREE TIMES. AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THIS MAN IS STILL SITTING IN THIS ROOM RIGHT HERE TODAY. IT'S WRONG. AND AGAIN, YOU WILL BE HEARING THE COURT -- YOU WILL BE GETTING THE PAPERWORK. AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW IT'S NOT FORGOTTEN AND THE ABUSES I HAD TO GO THROUGH THERAPY FOR MY ARM THAT HE HURT AND TWISTEDDEN MY BACK, AND FOR EVERYTHING THAT WAS DONE, THIS IS UNBELIEVABLE THAT WE HAVE A SYSTEM HERE WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO REPRESENT PEOPLE AND YOU COME TO A MEETING AND YOU GET ATTACKED. IT IS WRONG ON EVERY LEVEL. WHEN YOU ARE HERE TO DO A JOB, TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE, NOT ABUSE THEM, MR. MAYOR, YOU ARE THE WORST MAYOR WE EVER HAD. THANK YOU. >> MAYOR: ALL RIGHT. NEXT PUBLIC COMMENT SPEAKER. ANYONE ELSE IN THE CHAMBERS? NOW IS THE TIME TO APPROACH THE PODIUM. ALL RIGHT. SEEING NO ONE ELSE IN THE CHAMBERS, WE'RE GOING TO GO TO THOSE ONLINE. LET ME TAKE A LOOK AND I SEE NO ONE WAITING ONLINE. WITH THAT, PUBLIC AUDIENCE IS NOW CLOSED. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO SECTION 5 OF THE AGENDA, ADMINISTRATIVE. LET ME OPEN UP THE LIST. SO UNDER ADMINISTRATIVE, WE HAVE SEVERAL ADVISORY BOARD APPOINTMENTS OR REAPPOINTMENTS. ALL RIGHT. UNDER THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE, THERE IS ONE APPLICANT, LONDON NELSON SEEKING A SECOND TERM AS THE CITIZEN ENGAGED AS REAL ESTATE PROFESSIONAL IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THAT ROLE GOES TO VICE MAYOR KELLEY IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAK- >> YES. >> MAYOR: CITIZEN ENGAGED AS REAL ESTATE PROFESSIONAL IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THAT CATEGORY. [INAUDIBLE] >> IT SKIPS YOU AND GOES TO ME? >> THERE'S NO APPLICANT FOR THE FIRST CATEGORY SO I THINK THE MAYOR IS CORRECT. I THINK IT GOES TO YOU. >> MAYOR: I'M HAPPY TO MAKE A NOMINATION. >> THAT'S FINE. >> MAYOR: BUT THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN, IT SUGGESTS IT'S YOURS. >> OKAY. THEN I WILL NOMINATE LONDON NELSON TO SERVE THEIR SECOND TERM AS A CITIZEN ENGAGED AS A REAL ESTATE PROFESSIONAL. >> MAYOR: ALL RIGHT. ANY OPPOSITION? ANY OBJECTIONS TO THAT? CONGRATULATIONS LONDON NELSON, YOU HAVE BEEN APPOINTED. TO THE ART ADVISORY BOARD, THERE ARE NO APPLICANTS. BUILDING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS AND APPEALS, NO APPLICANTS. LIKEWISE WITH YOUTH AND EDUCATION ADVISORY BOARD. THE EMPLOYEES PENSION PLAN, BOARD OF TRUSTEES, HISTORIC RESOURCES AND PRESERVATION BOARD. HOWEVER, NOW WE GET TO THE LIBRARY BOARD AND THERE ARE SEVERAL -- MANY APPLICANTS. >> MANY. >> MAYOR: AND THE FIRST ONE HERE IS MY NOMINATION. AND THIS IS TO REPLACE GEORGE FELDMAN WHOSE SECOND TERM HAS EXPIRED. I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE KRISTINE LANG TO THE POSITION. ANY OBJECTIONS TO MY NOMINATION? ALL RIGHT. BEFORE WE PROVIDE, WE HAVE ANOTHER VACANT POSITION HERE WITH VICE MAYOR KELLEY. >> I'M SORRY, MAYOR. THE CLERK HAS INDICATED THAT TYPICALLY THERE'S A SECOND WITH REGARD TO THOSE NOMINATIONS. AND IN THE LAST TWO, THERE WASN'T AN ACTUAL SECOND TO THE NNOMINATION. IF WE CAN REDO THOSE. >> MAYOR: LET'S MAKE A FORMAL MOTION. LET'S DO THAT. THE VERY FIRST ONE, VICE MAYOR FOR LONDON. >> MOVE TO APPROVE. >> SECOND. >> MAYOR: OKAY. IT WAS HER MOTION. >> THAT'S FINE. >> MAYOR: IT'S ALL GOOD. IS THAT ALL RIGHT WITH YOU? >> YEAH, THAT'S FINE. >> MAYOR: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPOINTING LONDON NELSON AS OUR CITIZEN ENGAGED AS REAL ESTATE PROFESSIONAL IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING, SAY AYE. [AYES] MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO THE LIBRARY BOARD. MY NOMINATION WAS CHRISTINE LANG. THIS IS FOR THE REGULAR POSITION ON THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD. IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> MAYOR: ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER TURKIN. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION FOR CHRISTINE LANG SAY AYE. [AYES] MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. VICE MAYOR, YOUR TURN. >> THANK YOU. I MOVE TO APPOINT VERONICA ENAPETE TO THE REGULAR POSITION FOR THE LIBRARY BOARD. >> MAYOR: ALL RIGHT. IS THERE A SECOND TO THIS? WAS THAT YOU, COMMISSIONER CRUZ? ALL RIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE NOMINATION OF V VERONICA ENAPETE TO THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD SAY AYE. [AYES] MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. OKAY. THE NEXT ONE FOR AN ALTERNATE ROLE GOES TO COMMISSIONER CRUZ. >> MOVE TO APPOINT DONNA MITCHELL. >> MAYOR: DONNA MITCHELL. WAS THAT A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER TURKIN? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPOINTING DONNA MITCHELL TO THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD, SAY AYE. [AYES] MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. AND THE LAST ONE GOES TO COMMISSIONER HAY FOR THE ALTERNATE POSITION. >> I NOMINATE VERNA HENRY. >> SECOND. >> MAYOR: ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR VERNA HENRY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE NOMINATION SAY AYE. [AYE] MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THERE ARE IN APPLICANTS FOR THE RECREATION AND PARKS BOARD AND THE SENIOR ADVISORY BOARD, THIS NOMINATION GOES TO YOU, COMMISSIONER HAY, FOR THE REGULAR POSITION. IT IS CURRENTLY VACANT AND THERE IS ONE APPLICANT REBECCA SHELTON. >> REBECCA SHELTON IS THE NOMINATION. >> SECOND. >> MAYOR: MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER HAY, AND SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER TURKIN. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO APPOINT REBECCA SHELTON TO THE SENIOR ADVISORY BOARD, SAY AYE. [AYES] MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THAT COMPLETES ONLINE 5A. WE DID ADD ITEM 5B WHICH IS COMMISSIONER CRUZ'S REQUEST FOR COMMUNITY SUPPORT FUND DISBURSEMENTS. >> THE CITY CLERK HAS THE LIST. DO I HAVE TO READ IT? $700 FOR THE LITTLE LEAGUE 11U TRAVEL TEAM, 12U TRAVEL TEAM, WHICH ADDS UP TO $1,400 TOTAL FOR LITTLE LEAGUE. 1200 TO THE BALANCE WOMEN'S NONPROFIT. $500 TO THE CARING NEIGHBORS NONPROFIT. $500 TO THE AMERICAN LEGION POST 164. AND $400 TO THE HEART OF BOYNTON ASSOCIATION. >> MAYOR: ALL RIGHT. WAS THAT ALL OF IT? >> THAT'S MY MOTION. >> MAYOR: SOUNDS GOOD. IS THERE A SECOND TO HER REQUEST? >> SECOND. >> MAYOR: WE HAVE A SECOND FROM VICE MAYOR KELLEY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE AFORGERIESED ITEMS SAY AYE. [AYES] ANYONE OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. WE'RE MOVING ON TO CONSENT AGENDA. ANY ITEMS UNDER CONSENT MY COLLEAGUES WOULD LIKE TO PULL? >> YES. >> MAYOR: GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER HAY. >> I'D LIKE TO PULL ITEM E. >> MAYOR: IS THIS THE RENEWAL OF INSURANCE POLICIES? >> YES. I'M SORRY 24-210. >> THE FACILITY USE. >> NO. >> IT'S THE FACILITY USE AGREEMENT. >> FACILITY USE AGREEMENT. >> RIGHT. >> MAYOR: IN MY COPY IT'S THE FACILITY USE AGREEMENT FOR ENTITIES DURING -- >> THAT'S THE ONE. >> MAYOR: THAT'S E, COMMISSIONER HAY. >> ALSO K, RESOLUTION R-24-216. >> MAYOR: OKAY. >> THAT'S IT. >> MAYOR: ANY OTHER REQUESTS FROM MY COLLEAGUES? HEARING NO OTHER REQUESTS, MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REMAINDER OF CONSENT AGENDA? >> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND. >> MAYOR: MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER TURKIN. SECOND FROM VICE MAYOR KELLEY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE REMAINDER OF CONSENT AGENDA SAY AYE. [AYES] ANYONE OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE'RE GOING TO PROCEED TO THE PULLED ITEMS IN THE ORDER. ITEM 6E, PROPOSED RESOLUTION NUMBER R24-210, APPROVING A TEMPLATE FACILITY USE AGREEMENT FOR ENTITIES DESIRING TO USE CITY SPACES FOR MEETINGS, PROGRAMS AND/OR EVENTS. WHO WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE THIS ITEM? >> THAT'S GOING TO BE -- >> MAY I? WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR IS -- >> MAYOR: GO AHEAD. >> IN LAYMAN'S TERMS, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO INTO A LOT OF DETAILS BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE AUDIENCE AND THE PUBLIC UNDERSTAND THIS AND HOW TO USE IT AND WHAT IT MEANS. AND WHAT'S BEEN OPENED UP TO THEM. THAT'S WHERE I'M COMING FROM, SO JUST MAKE IT CLEAR. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COMMISSIONER, KELLEY ARMISTEAD, THIS IS FOR THOSE ENTITIES THAT DESIRE TO USE OUR FACILITIES TYPICALLY FREE OF CHARGE LIKE THE WOMAN'S CLUB THAT USES THE BUILDING. IT'S AT NO COST TO THEM. THAT'S THE WHAT THE FACILITY BREAMENT IS FOR. IT'S JUST A TEMPLATE. >> AT NO COST. >> YES, AT NO COST. WE DO HAVE SOME THAT PAY LIKE YOUNG SINGERS, THEY DO RENT OUR FACILITY AND PAY $7,000 THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE YEAR. BUT WE DO HAVE OTHERS THAT ARE AT NO COST. LIKE THE GARDEN CLUB FOR WOMEN. >> I'VE JUST BEEN GETTING A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. THAT'S WHY I WANTED YOU TO SORT OF SAY A FEW WORDS ABOUT IT. >> ABSOLUTELY. AND ALL OF OUR AGREEMENTS GO THROUGH THE CITY ATTORNEY. AND IT'S JUST A TEMPLATE. AND AGAIN, WE DO GET SOME FUNDING DEPENDING UPON THE ORGANIZATION. BUT THERE ARE OTHERS WHO CANNOT AFFORD. SO WE ARE WORKING WITH THEM. >> OKAY. THANK YOU. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> MAYOR: ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM OR COMMENTS? >> MOTION TO APPROVE R24-210. >> SECOND. >> MAYOR: I'M NOT SURE WHO MADE THE SECOND FIRST. COMMISSIONER CRUZ MADE THE SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 6E SAY AYE. [AYES] NANYONE OBJECT? PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. 6K, PROPOSED RIGHT HAND R24-216 APPROVING THE CONDITIONAL ASSESSMENT AND RELEASE IN THE AMOUNT OF $100,000 FOR THE RESOLUTION OF KATHRYN MATOS TO BE CITY OF BOYNTON CRA AND RELATED CLAIMS. COMMISSIONER HAY. >> I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR ONE. IT SORT OF GRIEVES ME WE ARE BEING SUED LEFT AND RIGHT HERE. THIS PARTICULAR ONE, I DON'T RECALL WHEN WE VOTED ON THIS AMOUNT. NORMALLY, MY EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN THAT WE HAVE A CLOSED DOOR SESSION AND WE HAVE -- I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY PROOF THAT THESE CHARGES ARE REAL. HOW DID WE COME UP WITH THIS $100,000? AND WHEN WE HAVE HAD NO CLOSED-DOOR SESSION ON DETERMINING THAT AMOUNT. WHERE DID THAT AMOUNT COME FROM? AND I JUST NEED SOME ANSWERS HERE. >> SURE, NO PROBLEM. THERE WAS -- MS. MATOS MADE AN EEOC CHARGE BASED UPON THINGS THAT WERE SAID ABOUT HER BY OUR FORMER H.R. MANAGER AND THE DISCLOSURE OF PRIVATE HEALTH INFORMATION WHICH IS PROTECTED. SHE ALLEGED AN A.D.A. VIOLATION. WE HAVE BEEN -- WE ARE NOT IN ACTIVE LITIGATION. SHE'S MADE AN EEOC CHARGE. IT IS JUST SEEKING A RIGHT TO SUE, SO WE WOULD NOT BE ENTITLED TO HAVE A CLOSED-DOOR SESSION. >> HAVE WE GOTTEN THE OIG RESULTS? >> WE HAVE NOT, BUT -- >> HOW CAN WE JUST COME UP WITH AN AMOUNT TO JUST -- ARE WE -- HOW AM I ASSURED THAT SHE WON'T JUST GO AWAY? MY UNDERSTANDING OF THIS, WE PAY $100,000 AND THEN WHAT? DOES SHE GO AWAY AND NEVER COME BACK? >> CORRECT. >> DOES SHE STILL SUE US? >> NO, SHE CANNOT SUE US BECAUSE WHAT YOU ARE ALSO APPROVING IS A COMPLETE AND TOTAL RELEASE OF ALL POTENTIAL FUTURE CLAIMS, THIS CURRENT CLAIM AGAINST ALL CITY OFFICIALS IN THEIR OFFICIAL CAPACITY, CURRENT AND FORMER. AND SHE'S RELEASING US OF ALL POSSIBLE CLAIMS COMING FORWARD IN THE FUTURE. >> I UNDERSTAND ALL THAT. BUT WHAT I HEAR AND WHAT I SEE THAT WE HAVE COME UP WITH AN AMOUNT, $100,000 TO PAY HER. WHICH I HAD NO SAY SO IN. OKAY. BECAUSE I DON'T REMEMBER HAVING THAT CONVERSATION WITH ANYBODY HERE. >> NO, SIR. >> I WAS WONDERING WHY $100,000. WHY NOT $50,000? >> A LITIGATION EVALUATION WAS DONE BETWEEN -- BECAUSE MS. MATOS WAS AN EMPLOYEE HERE, THAT I HAD TO WORK WITH IN ORDER TO REMOVE ANY APPEARANCE OF IMPROPRIETY, AGAIN WE ASKED AN OUTSIDE LAWYER TO REPRESENT US WITH REGARD TO RESPONDING TO THE EEOC CHARGE. THERE WAS AN EVALUATION OF WHAT THESE CLAIMS TYPICALLY COST. AND GIVEN WHAT SHE IS ALLEGING THE DAMAGES ARE AND BASED UPON PAST POSSIBLE WAGES, FUTURE WAGES AND REPUTATIONAL DAMAGES, THIS WAS AN AMOUNT THAT IS FAR BELOW SHE REQUESTED THAT WE FELT WAS FAIR AND FAVORABLE. AND ALSO TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION WHAT IT WOULD COST US TO CONTINUE TO LITIGATE THIS IF SHE WAS ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD IN CIRCUIT COURT. SO IT IS BASED ON THAT. AND THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO APPROVE OR REJECT THIS SETTLEMENT. >> I'M GOING TO REJECT IT SIMPLY BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE INPUT TO IT. I SHOULD HAVE HAD A SAY SO IN IT JUST LIKE YOU EXPLAINED IT JUST THEN. WE COULD HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN A CLOSED-DOOR SESSION. SO I KNEW WHAT WAS GOING ON. JUST TO BE HIT WITH THIS, WITH NO PROOF FROM OIG, I CANNOT SUPPORT THIS. >> MAYOR: ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER HAY. ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO WEIGH IN ON THIS MATTER BEFORE I DO? >> YEAH. >> MAYOR: GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER. >> I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. SO THIS COMPLAINT -- AND JUST CHIME IN IF I'M WRONG. SO THIS COMPLAINT WAS BROUGHT FORWARD BECAUSE THERE WAS A HIPAA VIOLATION. >> WE'RE NOT SUBJECT TO HIPAA, BUT YOU HAD AN H.R. MANAGER WHO ALLEGEDLY HAD PRIVATE HEALTH INFORMATION ABOUT A HEALTH CONDITION OF AN EMPLOYEE AND DISCLOSED THAT TO THE MEDIA. THAT IS A PROBLEM. THAT SUBJECTS US TO LIABILITY. >> IS THIS IN REFERENCE TO THE EMAIL THAT WAS ALMOST READ OUT LOUD? >> AND ALSO IT WAS FORWARDED -- >> AND SENT OUT TO MULTIPLE INDIVIDUALS OF THIS DAIS? >> THAT IS CORRECT. >> YEAH. SO I THINK THAT WAS -- YOU KNOW, YOU SHOULD NEVER TALK ABOUT -- I MEAN THE REASON WE'RE HERE, I UNDERSTAND YOUR FRUSTRATION. I WOULD HAVE LIKED A CONVERSATION BEFORE. I THINK THIS IS GOING TO TURN INTO A VERY LARGE LAWSUIT IF THE THINGS ARE TRUE. AND WHAT WE HAVE NOTICED BEFORE IS FACTS, HEARSAY, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF HEARSAY THROWN AROUND. AND THERE WAS THREE INVESTIGATIONS LAUNCHED BASED ON SHEER HEARSAY, RIGHT, WI WHERE E FACTS ARE IF THERE IS A MEDICAL CONDITION AND THAT WAS DISCLOSED TO THE MEDIA AND OTHER INDIVIDUALS, THAT IS A HIPAA VIOLATION, RIGHT. IT'S A CHARGE AGAINST EOC. THIS INDIVIDUAL COULD PROBABLY GET A LOT MORE. AND I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T WANT TO COST THE CITY MORE THAN WHAT WE NEED. AND IF THERE WAS AN OUTSIDE COUNSEL THAT RECOMMENDED AND DID AN ANALYSIS AND THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT, THAT'S GREAT. I THINK IN THE FUTURE, THAT SHOULD BE SOMETHING DISCUSSED, WHETHER IT'S IN A SHADE MEETING OR NOT. I UNDERSTAND THAT THE LAW IS DIFFERENT FOR THAT. BUT I THINK ONE-ON-ONE, YOU KNOW, BEFORE THIS GETS BROUGHT TO US, I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. >> ABSOLUTELY. >> AND I UNDERSTAND THE ART OF NEGOTIATING. I GET THAT. I UNDERSTAND. AT THE END OF THE DAY, I KNOW IT'S STAFF'S EXECUTIVE RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MITIGATE ANY LITIGATION AND MITIGATE ANY COSTS, UNNECESSARY COSTS TO THE CITY. >> SURE. I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT, COMMISSIONERS. I'LL TAKE PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY FOR NOT SETTING UP PRIVATE MEETINGS WITH YOU. I PROMISE AND ASSURE YOU THAT WILL NOT HAPPEN AGAIN. >> THAT'S ALL WELL AND GOOD. BUT HE MENTIONED THE WORD "IF" THE ALLEGATIONS ARE TRUE. WE DON'T KNOW THAT YET. OKAY. SO I CANNOT SEE HOW -- UNLESS THERE'S SOME SCALE THAT YOU GO BY IF IT'S THIS LEVEL OF EVENT, YOU PAY THIS AMOUNT AND THAT AMOUNT. SOMETHING DOESN'T FIT HERE TO ME. AND I NEED MORE TIME. I NEED MORE TALK ABOUT THIS. WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE? HOW MANY OTHERS DO WE HAVE IN THE HOPPER WITH THIS TYPE OF STUFF? AND GOING FORTH, WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THESE THINGS. WE NEED TO DISCUSS THEM. IF YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE A CLOSED-DOOR SESSION, FIND SOME OTHER MEANS. BUT I KNE KNEW NOTHING ABOUT THS UNTIL I READ IT HERE. AND THAT'S UNACCEPTABLE TO ME. >> AND THIS WAS ON THE WORKSHOP, TOO. >> WHEN IT CAME UP, I ASKED FOR PRIVATE MEETINGS. >> RIGHT. >> BECAUSE OF THE ONGOING CLAIM. I CAN'T SIT HERE AND TELL YOU ALL OF THE DETAILS INVOLVED. >> NO. >> AND ALL OF THE CLAIMS FOR DAMAGES. ALL I CAN TELL YOU IS THEY ARE PRETTY EXTREME. >> YEAH. SO IF -- SO IF THEY ARE TRUE, THEN I THINK WE'RE LOOKING AT SOMETHING GREATER THAN -- I MEAN I'M INDIFFERENT. I'M EITHER WAY. I JUST -- MY RESPONSIBILITY UP HERE IS TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE WITH THE TAXPAYER DOLLARS. >> ABSOLUTELY. >> AND THE CLAIM, I'M ASSUMING THAT WAS MADE, WAS, YOU KNOW -- FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, PRETTY EGREGIOUS. AND IF INDEED THIS WOULD BE DAMAGING JUST TO THE INDIVIDUAL'S REPUTATION AND THAT COULD PREVENT THEM FROM -- >> WORK THE IN THE FUTURE. >> FROM WORKING. >> IF WE CAN TAKE THIS KIND OF CONVERSATION [INAUDIBLE]. WE'RE THROWING A LOT OF OPINIONS OUT THERE AND I THINK WE'RE NOT SERVING THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY BY PROVIDING OPINIONS PER SE. AND I THINK IT'S PROBABLY BETTER TO HAVE INDIVIDUAL DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY. >> MY ONLY CONCERN IS THE TIME SENSITIVITY OF THIS. >> I SAY WE TABLE THIS ITEM. >> OKAY. >> LET'S HAVE A DISCUSSION. >> MOTION TO TABLE. >> SECOND. >> MAYOR: LET ME JUST SAY A FEW WORDS. I ECHO SOME OF THE SENTIMENTS THAT'S ALREADY BEEN MENTIONED BY COMMISSIONER HAY. I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR COUNSEL. AND I'LL JUST POSE IT NOW BUT WE'LL HAVE THAT DISCUSSION IN DETAIL LATER. IN MY TIME, IN MY ROLE IN THE CITY, I KNOW WE HAVE HAD PREVIOUS EEOC CLAIMS AND WE HAVE HAD CLOSED DOOR SESSIONS TO DISCUSS THE SETTLEMENT AMOUNT OR WHETHER OR NOT WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD. I KNOW THOSE CONVERSATIONS WERE HAD. I WAS IN THOSE ROOMS WITH CHIEF NATASHA CLEMONS AT THAT TIME. SO I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE NUANCES IS. >> WAS THAT IN LITIGATION? THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN EEOC CHARGE. YOU CAN HAVE AN EEOC CHARGE AND A COMPLACENT. IF THERE IS ONLY AN EEOC CHARGE THAT IS NOT ACTIVE LITIGATION WHICH THE SUNSHINE LAW DOES NOT ALLOW FOR A CLOSED-DOOR SESSION. >> MAYOR: ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. MY POSITION REMAINS THE SAME. ARE THERE ANY FURTHER COMMENTS FROM MY COLLEAGUES? WE HAVE A MOTION BEFORE US TO TABLE THIS ITEM. CAN WE BE MORE SPECIFIC WITH THE DATE? >> IT HAS TO GO BY OCTOBER 1 OR THE WHOLE THING BLOWS UP AND THEY ARE GOING TO FILE SUIT. I CAN TELL YOU, OUR LITIGATION FEES WILL BE WELL IN ADVANCE OF $100,000. >> MAYOR: ALL RIGHT. >> OCTOBER 1 IS GOOD FOR ME. >> MAYOR: CONTINUE WITH THE SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER HAY. >> YES. >> MAYOR: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO TABLE THIS TO THE OCTOBER 1st MEETING, SAY AYE. [AYES] ALL THOSE OPPOSED? N[NO] MOTION PASSES 4-1 WITH VICE MAYOR KELLEY DISSENTING. MOVING TO CONSENT BIDS AND PURCHASES OVER $100,000. ARE THERE ANY ITEMS UNDER THIS SECTION THAT MY COLLEAGUES WOULD LIKE TO PULL? TAKE A MOMENT TO LOOK AT IT. ANY REQUESTS? IF THERE'S NONE, MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REMAINDER? >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> MAYOR: WE HAVE -- WAS THAT A COMMENT, COMMISSIONER? DO YOU HAVE A SECOND? I HEARD THE MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER HAY AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER TURKIN. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING CONSENT BIDS AND PURCHASES OVER $100,000 IN ITS TOTALITY, SAY AYE. [AYES] MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE'RE NOW MOVING ON TO PUBLIC HEARING. PUBLIC HEARING, THE VERY FIRST ITEM HERE IS 8A, PROPOSED RESOLUTION R24-221, THIS IS ADOPTING THE FINAL MILLAGE RATE FOR THE GENERAL FUND FOR FISCAL YEAR '24-'25. THERE'S ANOTHER RESOLUTION RELATED TO IT, PROPOSED RESOLUTION 24-222 ADOPT THE FINAL BUDGET FOR THE GENERAL FUND AND ALL OTHER FUNDS FOR FISCAL YEAR '24-'25. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM MY COLLEAGUES TO STAFF? ALL RIGHT. SO IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING. SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, NOW IS THE TIME TO APPROACH THE PODIUM. SO WE HAVE TWO RESOLUTIONS BEFORE US, COMMENTS ARE RESTRICTED TO JUST THESE TWO ITEMS. AGAIN, THIS IS ADOPTING THE FINAL MILLAGE RATE AND THE FINAL BUDGET FOR THE GENERAL FUND AND ALL OTHER FUNDS FOR FISCAL YEAR '24-'25. LET ME SWITCH TO THE TIMER. BEGIN WHEN YOU ARE READY. >> HI, SUSAN OYER, BOYNTON BEACH. ONCE AGAIN, I'M GOING TO SAY THIS IS AN EXCESSIVELY LARGE BUDGET WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TOTAL, WE ARE OVER $300 MILLION. THAT IS A THIRD OF A BILLION DOLLARS. AND THIS IS ABOUT FIVE YEARS AFTER IT WAS AQUARTER OF A BILLION DOLLARS. SO YOU'VE GONE UP APPROXIMATELY $100 MILLION IN FIVE, SIX YEARS. AND I WANT TO KNOW WHY. I REALLY THINK THE IDEA TO HAVE A LIEN ITEM VETO IS WORTH EXPLORING STARTING WITH A ZERO BUDGET IS WORTH EXPLORING. AND NOW I'M NOTING THAT THERE'S NO MONEY IN THERE FOR SEPTIC TANK REMOVAL AND HELPING PEOPLE PUT THEIR WHATEVER SEPTIC TANK PROBLEMS ON TO CITY LINES, WHICH YOU GUYS REALLY NEED TO BE LOOKING AT THAT BECAUSE MY HOUSE IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE FIRST. AND IT'S CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO BE THE LAST. BUT I WOULD INVITE YOU TO LOOK CLOSER AT THIS AND FIND WAYS TO CUT THIS BECAUSE I THINK YOU NEED TO BE PREPARED FOR ANY DISASTERS, ANY EMERGENCIES. AND DO YOU REALLY HAVE THAT MONEY SITTING AROUND? AND I DON'T THINK YOU DO. AND I THINK GOING UP $100 MILLION IN FIVE TO SIX YEARS IS AN OUTRAGEOUS INCREASE IN BUDGET. THANK YOU. >> MAYOR: ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. >> CINDY FALCO DiCORRADO. I CONCUR WITH WHAT SUSAN SAID. AND TAXES ARE ILLEGAL. I'M JUST TIRED OF BEING RAPED FOR THE MONEYS THAT ARE SPENT SO FOOLISHLY. THERE'S A BUDGET YOU HAD EVEN PRIOR AND WE'RE STILL GETTING ASSESSMENTS ON THINGS WHICH IS A TAX. WHEN IS IT GOING TO STOP? WHERE IS TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION? IT'S JUST GETTING OUT OF CONTROL. AND I THINK THAT YOU GUYS REALLS OF WE THE PEOPLE UP THERE, YOU NEED TO THINK ABOUT THAT. I MEAN PEOPLE ARE PAYING OVER $6,000 JUST IN TAXES ALONE FOR THEIR HOUSES. THEN WITH THE INSURANCE GOING UP. AND NOW WITH ALL THESE RATES, I MEAN THE GOVERNMENT IS WE THE PEOPLE. IT'S OUR MONEY. IT'S OUR MONEY. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REALIZE THAT WHEN THEY SAY MONEY HERE, GET MONEY. YOU'RE GETTING IT FROM US. AND WE'RE TIRED OF PAYING THESE EXUBERANT PRICES. PLEASE DO BETTER. THANK YOU. >> MAYOR: ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE PERTAINING TO THESE TWO RESOLUTIONS? NOW IS THE TIME TO APPROACH THE PODIUM. SEEING NO ONE ELSE, LET'S GO ONLINE. I SEE NO ONE ONLINE. WITH THAT, PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM IS NOW CLOSED. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MY COLLEAGUES, COMMENTS? LET'S BEGIN WITH A MOTION TO APPROVE THE VERY FIRST RESOLUTION, THIS IS R24-221. >> MAYOR. >> MAYOR: YES. >> I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE READ THE ENTIRE ITEM IN FULL. >> MAYOR: LET'S DO THAT. MAYLEE, DID YOU WANT TO DO THAT? >> YES, PLEASE. RESOLUTION. >> JUST THE INTRO? IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT? >> IT'S PROPOSED RESOLUTION R24-221, ADOPT THE FINAL MILLAGE RATE FOR THE GENERAL FUND FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024-2025. >> YOU CAN GO ON THAT VOTE AND THEN I'LL READ THE NEXT ONE. >> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> MAYOR: I HAVE ALREADY READ THAT. >> I WANTED TO MAKE SURE. >> MAYOR: SOUNDS GOOD. MOTION. >> SECOND. >> MAYOR: FROM VICE MAYOR AND SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER CRUZ. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THIS RESOLUTION R24-221 SAY AYE. [AYES] ANYONE OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. LET'S DO THAT. OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO PROPOSED RESOLUTION NUMBER R24-222. AGAIN, THIS IS ADOPT THE FINAL BUDGET FOR THE GENERAL FUND AND ALL OTHER FUNDS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024 AND 2025. MAY I HAVE A MOTION ON THAT? >> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> MAYOR: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER HAY. >> SECOND. >> MAYOR: AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER TURKIN. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE AFOREMENTIONED RESOLUTION SAY AYE. [AYES] ANYONE OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THAT CONCLUDES ITEM 8A. WE'RE MOVING ON TO ITEM 8B, PROPOSED RESOLUTION NUMBER R24-224, THIS IS TO RATIFY RESOLUTION NUMBER R24-192, ADOPTED ON SEPTEMBER 3rd, 2024 FOR THE FIRE ASSESSMENT FEE OF $145 FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024-2025. WERE THERE ANY FURTHER DETAILS THAT SHOULD BE READ INTO THE RECORD? WANT TO MAKE SURE WE COVERED THIS ONE BECAUSE THERE'S TWO OF THEM. WAS THAT SUFFICIENT? I WANT TO MAKE SURE. >> THAT'S GOOD. ANYTHING FROM MY COLLEAGUES, QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. >> MAYOR: IF I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, NOW IS THE TIME TO APPROACH THE PODIUM. >> CINDY FALCO DiCORRADO. I DID PUT A FOIA IN. I'D LIKE TO KNOW REALLY FOR THIS FIRE ASSESSMENT, HOW MANY ACTUAL FIRES DO THEY PUT OUT A YEAR FOR THIS ASSESSMENT? EXTRA FUNDS, THEY HAVE A BUDGET. IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S MORE MEDICAL THAN IT IS FIRE. AND THERE NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING TO BE WORKED OUT WITH THAT SO THAT WE'RE NOT BEING BILLED FOR FIRES AND FOR ALL THIS EQUIPMENT FOR FIRES WHEN WE REALLY DON'T HAVE THAT MANY FIRES. WE HAVE MORE MEDICAL USE OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT THAN FIRES. AND WHEN I GET THE NUMBERS AND WHEN I GET IT DIRECTLY, I WILL ADDRESS IT AGAIN TO LET YOU KNOW HOW MANY ACTUAL FIRES WE HAVE IN THIS COMMUNITY IN A YEAR FOR US TO BE ASSESSED -- EACH HOMEOWNER $145 MORE THAN WHAT THEY ALREADY GET, WHICH SHOULD HAVE BEEN SUNSHINED OUT. UNFORTUNATELY, IT STAYS IN AND GETS ADDED $25 MORE WHICH IS AGAIN HIGHWAY ROBBERY. IT IS A TAX. WE THE PEOPLE SHOULDN'T BE PAYING IT. AGAIN I THINK WITH ALL THE TOYS THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAVE, THEY NEED TO CUT BACK ON THAT AND THEIR $1 MILLION EXERCISE ROOM THEY HAVE OVER HERE, STATE-OF-THE-ART. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE SEEN IT. YOU NEED TO START PAYING ATTENTION TO WHERE THESE DOLLARS GO AND HOW THEY ARE BEING SPENT AND GO ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY GO LOOK AT WHAT THEY ARE BUYING AND WHAT THEY ARE SAYING THEY NEED STUFF FOR THAT THEY DON'T NEED. THANK YOU. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. >> SUSAN OYER, BOYNTON BEACH. I'LL ONCE AGAIN GO ON THE RECORD OF SAYING I THINK IF THE MONEY ISN'T THE ISSUE, THERE IS AN EXEMPTION FORM THAT CAN BE FILLED OUT. I'M ALL FOR THIS. I DON'T LIKE PAYING EXTRA TAXES EITHER. PLEASE AGAIN GIVE ME SOME MONEY BACK FOR MY SEPTIC TANK PROBLEM. BUT, YOU KNOW, I DO SEE THAT THERE'S VALUE IN THIS. AS COMMISSIONER HAY SAID, SECONDS MATTER. AND IT MATTERS THAT WE'RE ABLE TO GET OUR FIRE AND OUR PARAMEDICS AND OUR RESCUE PEOPLE WHERE THEY NEED TO BE WHEN THEY NEED TO BE THERE TO DEAL WITH WHATEVER EMERGENCY WE HAVE. SO WHILE I TOO DO NOT LIKE PAYING EXTRA TAXES, THIS IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT I CAN SEE THE BENEFIT IN THE RESULT. AND I THINK IT'S VALID AND WORTHY WHEREAS, YOU KNOW, THE BUDGET JUST KIND OF FLIES AROUND IN OUR FACE AND WE DON'T SEE WHERE THAT ACTUALLY GOES, THIS IS SOMETHING WE ACTUALLY SEE AND WE CAN TOUCH IT AND FEEL IT, WHETHER WE'RE LOOKING AT THE FIRE PEOPLE OR WE'RE LOOKING AT THE VEHICLES OR, YOU KNOW, THE BOATS BECAUSE, YES, WE ARE ALL KNOW THAT WE LIVE RIGHT NEXT TO THE OCEAN AND THE INTRACOASTAL AND THERE'S A LOT OF ACCIDENTS THAT HAPPEN. SO THIS EQUIPMENT DOES GET PUT TO USE. AND YES, I DO HAVE ELDERLY RELATIVES WHO HAVE HAD TO CALL 911 AND BE TAKEN OUT IN AMBULANCES SEVERAL TIMES IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. SO I ACTUALLY AM ALL FOR THIS AND I ENCOURAGE YOU TO SUPPORT THIS. THANK YOU. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE CHAMBERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK SPECIFICALLY ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE ELSE, AND I SEE NO ONE ELSE ONLINE. PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM IS NOW CLOSED. LAST CHANCE FOR MY COLLEAGUES TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? SEEING NONE, MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE PROPOSED RESOLUTION NUMBER R24-224. >> MOVE TO APPROVE. >> SECOND. >> I WAS G GOING TO SECOND FOR DISCUSSION. >> MAYOR: SURE, GO AHEAD. >> AS PREVIOUSLY STATED AT THE LAST COMMISSION MEETING WHERE WE DISCUSSED THIS ITEM, I'M NOT GOING TO BE IN SUPPORT OF THIS. BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT, I DO HAVE A LOT OF SENIORS THAT ARE LIVING ON FIXED INCOMES AND THEY NEED HELP TO BE ABLE TO APPLY TO THIS EXEMPTION. I DID SEND AN EMAIL TO STAFF, YOU KNOW, WITH REGARD TO FULFILLING THE REQUEST THAT I MADE LAST TIME AT THE PREVIOUS COMMISSION MEETING. THERE IS AN IDEA OF POTENTIALLY HAVING A MEETING CITYWIDE. BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT, THAT'S COMPLETELY FINE. IT'S A GOOD IDEA. BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT, I DO WANT TO REQUEST, YOU KNOW, FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO GO WITH A STAFF MEMBER TO LEISUREVILLE. IT'S A COMMUNITY THAT HAS A HIGH POPULATION OF 55-PLUS COMMUNITY AND MANY RESIDENTS ARE LIVING ON FIXED INCOMES. SOME OF THEM DON'T EVEN DRIVE ANY MORE. IT JUST DEPENDS ON EACH SITUATION. AND I THINK IT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COMMUNITY AS WELL AS MY DUTY AS THEIR COMMISSIONER TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A STAFF MEMBER OR MORE THAN ONE REALLY -- BECAUSE WE HAVE ABOUT LET'S SAY 2,000 OR SO SENIORS. IF WE WERE TO DO, YOU KNOW, A CITYWIDE MEETING, WE KNOW THAT THERE'S NOT THAT MANY ROOMS THAT CAN FIT 2,000 PEOPLE. AND THE LAN LIKELIHOOD THAT THEE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DRIVE OUT IS A LOT OF LOGISTICS. AT LEAST FOR THE SENIORS, FOR EVERYONE ELSE, I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE A CITYWIDE MEETING. HOWEVER, FOR OUR SENIORS, I THINK THAT I WOULD DEFINITELY LIKE TO REQUEST TO HAVE A SPECIFIC MEETING FOR THEM AND TO HAVE AT LEAST A COUPLE OF STAFF MEMBERS THAT KNOW THE LOGISTICS AND THE DETAILS OF THE APPLICATION. AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO REQUEST TO HAVE THE LINK TO THE APPLICATION EMAILED TO ME OR REALLY TO ALL THE COMMISSIONERS SO THEY CAN DISSEMINATE THAT TO THEIR DISTRICTS. THAT'S MY REQUEST. >> MAYOR: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER TURKIN, YOU HAD A COMMENT? >> THANK YOU MAYOR. LAST YEAR I THINK I BROUGHT THIS UP ABOUT THE FIRE ASSESSMENT EXEMPTION. I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT LOOSENING THAT UP FOR OUR SENIOR RESIDENTS AND FOR WORKING-CLASS INDIVIDUALS. I HAD A NEIGHBOR THAT APPLIED FOR IT AND SHE WASN'T ELIGIBLE, RIGHT. AND THEY ARE ON PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK, RIGHT. AND SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THIS COMMISSION NEEDS TO LOOK AT. I DON'T WANT TO GO TOO MUCH IN DEPTH AND ROADBLOCK WHAT WE ARE DOING NOW. BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, THAT COULD BENEFIT FROM THIS, ESPECIALLY OUR SENIOR COMMUNITY. AND SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE HAVE A DISCUSSION ITEM ON THAT AT A FUTURE AGENDA AND REALLY TALK ABOUT THIS SO THAT WAY NEXT YEAR, WE ARE PREPARED, YOU KNOW, AND WE CAN BALANCE THE BUDGET IN CONSIDERATION OF THESE EXEMPTIONS AND ANTICIPATED EXEMPTIONS. THANKS. >> CAN YOU SEND ME AN EMAIL, COMMISSIONER CRUZ? OUTLINE EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE THINKING AND A TIME FRAME. AND WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. I HAVE NO OBJECTIONS TO THAT. I JUST KNOW THERE'S PROBABLY MORE THAN JUST LEISUREVILLE THAT WE'D HAVE TO LOOK AT AS FAR AS MAKING SURE -- >> FOR SURE. >> I THINK REALLY WHAT THE IDEA BEHIND THIS IS GIVING A SIMPLISTIC EXPLANATION AND HAVE THE STAFF WORK THROUGH AND DO MAYBE A FORCE MULTIPLIER IN THE 55-PLUS COMMUNITIES SO THEY CAN BE HELPED TO GET THROUGH THE PROCESS. >> MAYOR: SOUNDS GOOD, THANK YOU. >> YEAH. >> MAYOR: YES, COMMISSIONER HAY. >> I CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT IS BEING SAID AND I CONCUR WITH IT. HOWEVER, UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES, I WILL SUPPORT THE $145 NOW. BUT AS HAS BEEN STATED, WE LOOK AT OUR SENIOR CITIZENS BECAUSE TO BE QUITE HONEST, WE ARE SOME OF THE VERY ONES THAT WANT THE SERVICE ALMOST IMMEDIATELY. OKAY. AND SO FOR US TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT SERVICE, I THINK IS A GREATER PLUS THAN THE FEW DOLLARS THAT WE ARE TALKING. HOWEVER, WE DO NEED TO DISCUSS IT. WE DO NEED TO MAYBE ALLOW OPTING OUT UNDER DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES AND CONDITIONS. I'M OPEN FOR DISCUSSION IN THE FUTURE. BUT FOR RIGHT NOW, I SUPPORT THE RESOLUTION. >> MAYOR: ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH,EVERYBODY. LOOKS LIKE WE'RE READY TO MOVE FORWARD. LET ME REREAD. PROPOSED RESOLUTION R24-224 WHICH RATIFIES TO ADOPT SEPTEMBER 23rd, 2024. MAYLEE, YOU WANT TO CONFIRM THE MOTION WAS MADE BY? >> I MADE THE MOTION. >> MAYOR: COMMISSIONER HAY. AND THE SECOND WAS MADE BY? VICE MAYOR KELLEY, ALL RIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, SAY AYE. [AYES] WHO OPPOSES? >> IS IT ROLL CALL? >> MAYOR: NO, THIS IS A REGULAR RESOLUTION. >> FIRE ASSESSMENT? >> MAYOR: YES. >> I'M GOING TO SAY NO. >> MAYOR: WE HAVE AN OBJECTION FROM COMMISSIONER CRUZ AND COMMISSIONER TURKIN. THE ITEM PASSES 3-2 WITH COMMISSIONER CRUZ AND COMMISSIONER TURKIN DISENDING. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM C, PROPOSED ORDINANCE, SECOND READING, ORDINANCE NUMBER 24-012. >> AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA, AMENDING PART II, CHAPTER 2, ADMINISTRATION, ARTICLE II. POWERS AND DUTIES GENERALLY, BY CREATING A NEW SUBSECTION K, AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL EMPLOYMENT RELATED CONTRACTS ON BEHALF OF THE CITY, PROVIDING FOR CODIFICATION AND AN EEFFECTIVE DATE. >> ANYTHING FOR STAFF ON THIS? >> PUBLIC COMMENT SPECIFICALLY ON THIS ITEM. IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK SPECIFICALLY ON THIS ITEM, NOW IS THE TIME TO APPROACH THE PODIUM. BEGIN WHEN YOU'RE READY? >> GOOD EVENING. MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, TOM RAVISIO. I HAVE A COUPLE COMMENTS. ON THE -- GIVEN THE AUTHORITY TO THE CITY MANAGER TO SIGN SHOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE, BECAUSE THE CITY COMMISSION DOES HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO GRANT THAT LIMITED AUTHORITY TO YOUR CITY MANAGER, HOWEVER, I WOULD CAUTION YOU ON USING THE WORD ALL CITY CONTRACTS AS YOU KNOW, YOU CONTRACT THE CITY MANAGER AND CITY ATTORNEY, YOU MAY WANT TO LEAVE THOSE CONTRACTUAL AGROEMTS TO GO TO YOU I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU BE MORE SPECIFIC ON THAT RECOMMENDATION. AND THEN IN GENERAL N LISTENING TO THE BACK AND FORTH. IT IS CLEAR THAT -- MY INTEREST IS PRESERVING THE MAYOR'S AUTHORITY IN THE BOARD GOVERNANCE STRUCTURE. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE FOUR FORMS OF GOVERNMENT THAT WE HAVE IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. WITH THE COMMISSIONER MANAGER, THE STRONG AND WEAK FORMS OF GOVERNMENT AS WELL. WE'RE USING THE MOST POPULAR. 70% OF THE COMMUNITIES IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA, USE THE COMMISSION OR COUNCIL FORM OF GOVERNMENT. YOU'LL NOTICE THEY'RE EQUAL ON THE LISTING IN STATE STATUTE AND IN YOUR CITY CHARTER. AND THEY'RE EQUAL ON THE SAME LINE WITH A HIGH PHEN ATED BECAUSE YOU SHARE IN THE ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE, THE CITY MANAGER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR. AND IT'S CLEAR WHAT THAT LIMITED AUTHORITY GRANTED TO HIM IN STATE LAW AND IN YOUR CITY CHARTER. AND THEN YOU HAVE THE AUTHORITY THAT'S GRANTED TO THE MAYOR, SO I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE PROTECTION -- FOR EXAMPLE, IF SAY YOU DEBATE A CONTRACT FOR AN EMPLOYMENT -- A UNION CONTRACT, AND YOU AGREE TO 3.5% INCREASE FOR THAT CONTRACT. WHEN THE CONTRACT -- THE CONTRACT IS NOT GOING TO BE HERE THE NIGHT THAT YOU TYPICALLY APPROVE IT, IT WILL COME BACK TO YOU, ONCE THE LANGUAGE IS CRAFTED, AND THEREIN LIES THE CITY MANAGER BRINGS THAT TO YOU WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY, SO YOU WOULD WANT THE SECOND SET OF EYES BEING EITHER THE MAYOR OR THE COUNCIL, IT'S BOARD GOVERNANCE, IT'S NOT A POWER GRAB BY ONE OR THE OTHER, IT'S REALLY JUST A BALANCE OF THE STRUCTURE THAT YOU HAVE SOMEBODY ELSE AND A SECOND SET OF EYES LOOKING AT THAT CONTRACT WHEN IT COMES BACK TO YOU. BUT REMEMBER, IN THE PREAMBLE OF STATE LAW, IN THE FLORIDA CONSTITUTION, AND IN YOUR OWN CITY CHARTER, THE PREAMBLE STATES THAT ALL OF THE POWER OF THE CITY GOVERNMENT IS GRANTED TO THE CITY COMMISSION. AND THERE YOU MAKE THE TWO APPOINTMENTS. THANK YOU. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER? >> CINDY FALCO DICORATO. I WANTED TO MAKE IT STRONG, WE'RE NOT A STRONG MAYORAL GOVERNMENT HERE. YOUR VOTE IS AS A COMMISSIONER'S VOTE, THERE'S NO HIERARCHY HERE. I WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CITY MANAGER'S POSITION IS, BECAUSE TO MY UNDERSTANDING, IF HE'S SUPPOSED TO MANAGE THE CITY, HOW IS HE SUPPOSED TO DO THAT WITH HIS HANDS TIED. HOW IS THE CITY MANAGER SUPPOSED TO DO HIS JOB. HE'S GOING TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE BECAUSE HE'S A CITY MANAGER, WHAT DO WE HAVE A CITY MANAGER FOR AND WHAT ARE WE PAYING FOR HE'S SUPPOSED TO HAVE A POSITION TO DO CERTAIN THINGS. IF THE CITY MANAGER AND MAYBE A COMMISSIONER, MAKE YOURSELF AVAILABLE WHEN HE NEEDS SOMETHING DONE. HIS JOB IS TO MANAGE THIS CITY. IT'S NOT RIGHT, PERIOD, END OF STORY. WE WILL NEVER BE A STRONG MAYORSHIP, THAT GENTLEMAN THAT CAME UP HERE THAT'S RUNNING FOR MAYOR, WE'RE NOT GOING TO GIVE THAT TO YOU EITHER. >> MAYOR: IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? I SEE NO ONE ELSE. AND WITH THAT, THE PUBLIC COMMENT OF THIS ITEM IS NOW CLOSED. I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE 24-012. >> SO MOVED. >> MAYOR: IS THERE A SECOND TO APPROVING THIS ITEM? FOLKS, DOI WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO ALL SUPPORT THIS, THIS MODIFIES -- >> THERE'S NOT A SECOND, THE MOTION FAILS. >> MAYOR: LET ME FINISH MY COMMENTS. THIS ITEM HAS BEEN AMENDED, IT SAYS HERE FOR EMPLOYMENT RELATED CONTRACTS. WHICH HE ALREADY DOES HAVE THE AUTHORITY, THIS WOULD CODIFY BY ORDINANCE. I THOUGHT WE WERE ON THE SAME PAGE ON THIS, BUT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN -- >> ISN'T THAT THE DIRECTION THAT WE GOT THE LAST COMMISSION MEETING? >> MAYOR: PRECISELY, TO MODIFY AND ONLY ALLOW THIS PARTICULAR ITEM. >> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> MAYOR: WE HAVE A MOTION ON THIS ITEM, IS THERE A SECOND? HEARING NO SECOND, THIS MOTION DIES FOR LACK OF SECOND, OKAY? OKAY. SO WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE HAD TO THE NEXT ITEM, PROPOSED ORDINANCE 24-02. >> PROPOSED ORDINANCE NUMBER 24-017, SECOND RIDING, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CITY OF BOYNTON BEACH'S CODE OF ORDINANCE CHAPTER 15, OFFENSES, MISCEL MISCELLANEOUS. PROVIDING FOR CONFLICTS, SEVERABILITY, CODIFICATION AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >> MAYOR: MISS STONE? >> I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT THE PRESENTATION. THAT'S THE ONLY UPDATE THAT WAS MADE. [ BEEPING ] >> I THOUGHT THAT WAS A FIRE ALARM. >> IT IS AN AMBER ALERT. >> MAYOR: MISS STONE, IF YOU COULD PLEASE CONTINUE. >> DO YOU WANT TO SEE THE PRESENTATION AGAIN OR -- THE CHANGE WAS, THEY WENT FROM 6 INCHES TO 9 INCHES. >> MAYOR: WAS THAT THE ONLY CHANGE? >> YES. >> I DON'T NEED TO GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION AGAIN. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU SO MUCH. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK SPECIFICALLY FOR ORDINANCE 24-017, NOW IS THE TIME TO APPROACH THE PODIUM. >> SUSAN OYER, YOU GUYS ARE GETTING ME A LOT TONIGHT MUCH YOU HAD TO PICK A BUSY EVENING. I WANT TO SAY THAT I TAKE ISSUE WITH THE WHOLE CARPORT ISSUE, IN CODE. I MEAN, I'M STILL HEARING FROM PEOPLE AROUND BOYNTON THAT ARE IRRITATED THEY ARE BEING PICKED UPON FOR THEIR CARPORT PROBLEM. AND, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WHAT CODE IS, BUT I WILL SAY THE AVERAGE PERSON CAN'T AFFORD TO SWITCH THEIR CARPORT TO A GARAGE, WHICH WE KNOW WOULD DRASTICALLY INCREASE THE VALUE OF THEIR HOME, BECAUSE A GARAGE IS WORTH MORE THAN A BEDROOM AT THIS POINT IN BOYNTON BEACH. PICKING ON PEOPLE FOR HAVING A BOX OR SHELVING IN THEIR CARPORT IS WRONG. I MEAN, ISN'T THAT PART OF WHAT THE PLACE IS FOR, IS FOR STORAGE, AND YOU'RE CITING PEOPLE FOR HAVING SHELVING IN THEIR CARPORT, YOU'RE CITING PEOPLE FOR HAVING A BOX SITTING IN THEIR CARPORT. IT'S THEIR CAR BORT, THEY CAN DO WHAT THEY WANT. I GET IT IF THE STUFF IS SPILLING OUT OF THE CARPORT AND GOING ON THE SIDE, IN THE DRIVE WAY, I COULD SEE WHERE THAT WOULD BE WORTH CITING PEOPLE OVER, BUT LET PEOPLE HAVE THEIR CARPORTS AND DO WHAT THEY WANT TO WITH THEM. THEY'RE NOT GOING AFTER PEOPLE WHO MAKE THEM INTO SEPARATE ROOMS WITH CHAIRS AND TABLES. THEY'RE NOT DOING THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING AFTER PEOPLE WHO ARE USING THEM FOR GYMNASIUMS AND PUTTING EXERCISE EQUIPMENT IN, BUT THEY'RE GOING AFTER YOU FOR HAVING A BOX AND SHELVING. THAT'S OUT OF CONTROL. SO I WOULD SAY PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT WHEN YOU PUT FORTH THAT FINAL VERSION, YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THE FACT THAT A VERY LARGE PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE IN BOYNTON BEACH HAVE A CARPORT, AND THIS NEEDS TO PROPERLY ADDRESS THAT, AND THANK YOU. >> MAYOR: ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. >> CINDY FALCO -- I WANT TO O SAY PRIVATE PROPERTY IS PRIVATE PROPERTY, THEY HAVE THE PERMITTERS OF WHAT THEY PURCHASED PROPERTY, FROM THE FRONT YARD TO THE BACKYARD, THAT IS PRIVATE PROPERTY. NO ONE HAS A RIGHT TO SAY ANYTHING ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. IT'S NOT AN HOA. WE LIVE IN A FREE COUNTRY SUPPOSEDLY, WE KNOW THAT'S NOT TRUE, WE'RE STILL WORK ON THAT. SO LET'S RESPECT PEOPLE'S BOUNDARIES. LET'S RESPECT THE PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER. AND ON THIS NOTE, AS I JUST SAID TO YOU, THE ALLEY WAY, WHICH IS OWNED BY THE CITY OF BOYNTON BEACH, WHO CHARGES WHO FOR THAT, AND WHAT DOES THAT GET RECTIFIED, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BEAUTIFICATION, IT'S DISGUSTING, THERE COULD BE PEOPLE STEALING, AND PUTTING THINGS IN THE HIGH GRASS. THERE'S 6, 7 FOOT HIGH TALL GRASS, I CALLED TWICE, NO ONE'S GOTTEN BACK TO ME, NO ONE'S MOED IT OR LOOKED AT IT IT COULD BECOME RATS, PROBLEMS, RACCOONS. WHO GIVES THE CITY CODE ENFORCEMENT, WHICH IS PUBLIC PROPERTY, WHICH SHOULD BE TAKEN CARE OF, AND AS I STATED BEFORE, I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO MAKE THE PHONE CALLS, IT SHOULD BE ON A REGULAR SYSTEM, EVERY TWO WEEKS THEY COME OUT AND MOE THESE ALLEY WAYS, THE BEAST OF THE PURD SHOULDN'T BE ON ME. LEAVE PEOPLE'S PRIVATE PROPERTY PRIVATE, WE DON'T LIVE IN AN HOA, THANK YOU. >> MAYOR: LAST CALL? SEEING NO ONE APPROACH THE PODIUM OR COMMENTS ONLINE, PUBLIC COMMENT IS NOW CLOSED. MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS -- >> BEFORE YOU MAKE THE MOTION. >> MAYOR: GO AHEAD, IF YOU HAVE MORE COMMENTS. >> I DO HAVE A AN ISSUE ABOUT WHAT HAS BEEN SAID. I HAVE A SITUATION RUN ACROSS IN MY HOUSE, WHERE THE PERSON HAS A BOAT, AND HE HAD IT PARKED ON THE SIDE. OUT OF THE WAY, HE WAS ON THE SIDE, BUT HAD SOME STUFF IN THE CARPORT. HE WAS MADE TO BRING THAT BOAT AND PUT IT IN THE DRIVE WAY, OKAY? AND NOW TO ME IS -- IT'S A TERRIBLE APPEARANCE OF HAVING THAT BOAT IN THE DRIVE WAY LIKE IT IS. IT WAS MUCH BETTER WHERE IT WAS. OUT OF SITE -- NOT OUT OF SITE, BUT IT WAS NEAT. ALL OF A SUDDEN NOW, WE, THE CITY MADE HIM DRAG IT OUT INTO HIS CIRCULAR DRIVE WAY, AND EVERY TIME I BACK OUT OR PULL IN, OR LOOK OVER THERE, I SEE THIS BOAT. AND IT'S UGLY, AND I'M WONDERING, WHAT ARE WE DOING? THE OTHER PIECE OF THAT IS NUMBER TWO, IS THAT -- AND I'M TALKING HERE, OKAY? IS THAT WE DON'T -- WE'RE NOT CONSISTENT ACROSS THE BOARD. I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO PERSONALITY THING HERE. BUT I NOTICE FROM THE CALLS THAT I'VE GOTTEN, AND THE VISITS THAT I'VE MADE TO OWNER'S PROPERTIES, THAT THERE'S A -- INCONSISTENCY ON WHAT WE'RE DOING, BECAUSE THIS THING OVER HERE, IS GARAGE LOOKS LIKE HELL, AND OVER HERE, IT'S REALLY NEAT, BUT THEY STILL GET A VIOLATION. AND IT DOESN'T ADD UP. SO I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK HARD AT WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE. AND BE CONSISTENT ACROSS THE BOARD. AND GET SOME CLARITY. THAT'S CERTAINLY -- AS A NEIGHBOR, I WOULD WANT THAT GUY THAT LIVED ACROSS FROM ME, TO PUT THAT BOAT BACK WHERE HE HAD IT. SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO GO FROM HERE WITH THIS. I THINK WE NEED SOME MORE FUSE AND TALKS ON THIS. UNLESS ADAM, YOU CAN HELP ME OUT HERE. >> WELL, SO I CAN CLARIFY, THE BOAT, THE RECREATION VEHICLES, IT'S A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ORDINANCE, IT'S NOT PART OF THIS ONE, AND THEN THE -- >> JUST ANSWER ME ONE QUESTION. >> YES. >> THAT BOAT HAS BEEN THERE, HE TAKES IT OUT EVERY NIGHT, FOR OVER 20 YEARS, IT'S NEVER BEEN A PROBLEM, WHY IS IT A PROBLEM NOW? >> SOMETIMES YOU GET A NEW CODE OFFICER AND THEY SEE THINGS DIFFERENTLY. SOMETIMES CODE OFFICERS DON'T SEE THE EXACT SAME VIOLATIONS. SOMETHING I'M TRYING TO WORK WITH THE DEPARTMENT, WITH A -- HALF MY STAFF BEING NEW, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE PROBABLY HAVING A LOT OF PEOPLE COME UP HERE, BECAUSE WE'RE STARTING TO SITE -- TRYING TO CITE MORE CONSISTENTLY ALL THE ORDINANCES AND ALL THE CODES, NOT JUST SELECTIVE ONES. SOMETIMES IT MIGHT BE FEELING THAT WAY NOW. BUT LIKE THE STUFF IN THE GARAGE AND THE -- NOT THE GARAGE, BUT THE CARPORTS, THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN IN THE ORDINANCE, ALL I'M DOING IS CLARIFYING THAT. SO THAT'S AND AGAIN, WE HAVE TO BE CONSISTENT LIKE YOU SAID. >> GOING BACK TO THE CARPORT, ARE WE SAYING THE ON THING THAT'S ALLOWED IN THE CAR PORT IS A CAR? >> YES. >> NOT A TABLE, NOT A CHAIR, NOT A PIECE OF FURNITURE. >> TECHNICALLY YES. CARPORT IS FOR A CAR. BEGIN, WE DON'T GO AS HARD AS EVERY LITTLE THING, IF THERE'S A SMALL STORAGE THING IN THERE, SMALL CRATE, WE DON'T REALLY GO FOR THOSE, IT'S MORE THE O BIG MESS ONES THAT HAVE A TON OF STORAGE. IF YOU TAKE THAT AWAY FROM THE CODE COMPLETELY. WE CAN'T ENFORCE ANYTHING INSIDE OF A CARPORT. AND THEN YOU'RE LEFT WITH EXACTLY THAT, A LARGE PILE OF TRASH INSIDE CARPORTS. SO IT'S NOT GOOD TO REMOVE IT FROM A CODE, BUT ENSURE I HAVE TO ENSURE MY STAFF IS ENFORCING IT EQUALLY. >> I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE ENFORCEMENT PIECE OF IT, AND I NEED MORE TALK RIGHT NOW, I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS RIGHT NOW. >> MAYOR: COMMISSIONER TURKIN? >> NO, I AGREE. IT'S CALLED SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT, WE SEE THAT ALL THE TIME, AND, YOU KNOW, WITH THE CARPORT, THERE'S A LOT OF CARPORTS THAT HAVE BEEN CONVERTED INTO ADDITIONAL BEDROOMS THAT I KNOW DON'T HAVE PERMITS, AND THEY'RE NOT GETTING NICKED FROM CODE. MAYBE NOT ALL THE TIME, MAYBE SOMETIMES, I THINK AS FAR AS THE CARPORT THING GOES, THERE SHOULD BE A PERCENTAGE OF THE CARPORT -- I HAVE A CARPORT, AND I KEEP MY TRUCK IN IT. I KEEP A SHELF IN THERE. AM I WRONG OR AM I RIGHT. I DON'T HAVE A LARGE HOUSE, AND I UTILIZE THAT SPACE. SO I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A HAPPY MEDIUM, LOOKING AT A PERCENTAGE OF THAT CARPORT TO BE USED, THAT MITIGATES THE PROBLEM OF TRASH. WE DON'T WANT BUNDLES AND B BUNDLES OF TRASH IN OUR CARPORTS. I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER HAY WITH RESPECT TO THIS ONE. MAYBE WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS AGAIN AND REVISIT. FOR THE TREES, THE TRIMMING OF THE TREES, THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES IN CHAPEL HILL, A LOT OF FAMILIES IN THERE, THE NEIGHBORS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE TREES WHACKING THE POWER LINES AND CREATING A DANGEROUS SITUATION FOR THE KIDS. CAN I JUST -- THE 10 FOOT FROM THE CANOPY. CAN I GET SOME CLARITY ON THAT. I THINK IT SAYS 10 FOOT FROM THE TREE. >> THE CANOPY HAS TO BE 10 FEET FROM THE POWER LINES ITSELF. >> OVER IT? >> UNDER. >> WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ONES, OVERHEAD POWER LINES, SO THE TREE HAS TO BE 10 FEET UNDER. YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO PLANT THE RIGHT TREE TO BEGIN WITH, IN ORDER FOR YOU TO MEET THAT. BUT LIKE WE SAID, RIGHT NOW, WE'RE BIG THAT INTO A CITY WHO'S NEVER HAD THAT ORDINANCE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE LOTS OF PEOPLE VIOLATING THE ORDINANCE, BUT THAT'S THE ONLY WAY TO START, WE HE WOULD HAVE TO EDUCATE AND GET HOMEOWNERS TO UNDERSTAND THAT THESE TREES ARE ACTUALLY ENDANGERING THEMSELVES, SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE -- AND FP & L HAS A RULE OF ALSO 15 FEET AWAY, THE OTHER DIRECTION. >> FROM THE TREES? >> YES. >> POWER LINES ON FOREST PARK DIP DOWN ALMOST TO THE FERNCE LINE. I SEE IT EVERYWHERE. AT THAT POINT, I'M NOT GOING TO TOUCH THAT POWER LINE, NEITHER IS THE NEIGHBOR. YOU KNOW HOW HARD IT IS TO GET FPL OUT, IT TOOK THEM THREE WEEKS TO CHANGE THE LIGHTS ON MY STREET. AND SO -- >> THE ONLY WAY TO ADD IN AN ORDINANCE IS TO PUT STIPULATIONS IN THERE. >> CAN WE CHANGE THE AMOUNT -- THEP LENGTH? >> THAT GOES BY THE STANDARD OF THE -- I CAN REMOVE THE VERBIAGE FROM THERE, BUT THERE'S STILL A STANDARD THAT IS 10 FEET AWAY. >> YEAH, MY INTENTION IS, TO MAKE SURE WE'RE HOLDING OURSELVES ACCOUNTABLE, SO AN ACCIDENT DOESN'T HAPPEN. WE WANT TO DO WHAT WE CAN TO PROMOTE ACCIDENTS, AT THE SAME TIME, I DON'T WENT RESIDENTS TO GET KNICKED AND -- I MEAN, HECK -- >> WE CAN REMOVE THE 10. >> I THINK I NEED TO TRIM SOME TREES RIGHT NOW. >> I CAN REMOVE THAT VERBIAGE, BUT IT'S STILL -- IF THERE'S A TREE, IF A RESIDENT HAS A TREE TOUCHING THE POWER LINES OR SO CLOSE, THEY'RE IN ALMOST THE SAME EXACT SITUATION, THEY HAVE TO REMOVE THE TREE OR HIRE A LANDSCAPER TO TRIM THE TREE. >> I THINK IF IT'S TOUCHING, A FOOT OR TWO, I GET IT, 10 FEET, THAT'S A GOOD BIT. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE GETTING RID OF THEIR TREES. >> FOR NEWLY PLANTED TREES, ENSURE THEY FOLLOW THE GUIDELINES. >> NEWLY PLANTED TREES? >> YES. >> HOW DO YOU DICTATE THE NEWLY PLANTED VERSUS -- >> WELL, WE GET A CITY ARBORIST -- >> I WAS GOING TO SAY, WE MAKE ANN ARBORIST TO DETERMINE THAT. I GUESS A LEGAL OBSERVATION OF THAT, YOU KNOW. YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE THE 10 FOOT PORTION, AND I THINK ENCROACHING WOULD BE I THINK MORE OF THE CONCERN. THAT'S MY OPINION, OBVIOUSLY, IT'S UP TO THE BOARD. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER TURKIN. LET'S TURN TO VICE MAYOR KELLEY WHO HAS BEEN WAITING PATIENTLY. >> THANK YOU. MY ONLY CONCERN WITH THAT IS THEN WE ARE NOW THEN OPENING UP WHO'S GOING TO PATROL THAT, AND WHO'S GOING TO DECIDE WHAT'S TOO CLOSE, WHAT'S NOT TOO CLOSE. WE HAVE TO HAVE A NUMBER, MY CONCERN WITH THIS, IS THAT -- I MEAN, MY UNDERSTANDING IS, THIS WOULD GO INTO EFFECT IMMEDIATELY, AND I -- MY ISSUE COMES WITH RESIDENTS WHO IMMEDIATELY BECOME IN VIOLATION OF THIS NEW ORDINANCE, AND WHAT IS THEN OUR NOTICE PERIOD? WHAT IS GOING TO BE OUR GRACE PERIOD. WHAT I DON'T WANT TO SEE, AS THIS GOES INTO EFFECT. WE HAVE RESIDENTS COMING TO US, I KNOW IT'S GOING TO HAVE HAPPEN. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE RESIDENTS THAT SAY, I'VE HAD THESE TREES FOR 20 YEARS, I'VE NEVER HAD AN ISSUE. YOU CREATE THIS ORDINANCE. NOW I HAVE TO HAVE IT CUT DOWN BY A TREE TRIMMER, IT'S GOING TO COST ME THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS, DEPENDING ON THE TREES. TO CLEAN OUT A WHOLE AREA, BECAUSE IT'S ENCROACHING ON POWER LINES, WE THEN RUN INTO AN ISSUE WHERE WE'RE CREATING A FINANCIAL BURDEN TO RESIDENTS, AND I UNDERSTAND WE NEED TO DO THIS, I UNDERSTAND THE PURPOSE OF IT, ALONG CONGRESS AVENUE, I TALKED TO STAFF ABOUT IT TODAY. ALONG CONGRESS AVENUE, TREES ARE LITERALLY GROWING AROUND THE POWER LINES. WELL, SO -- WE KNOW IT'S NECESSARY, BUT MY FEAR IS, THAT WE JUST IMMEDIATELY START THIS, AND NOW WE'RE IN A MESS, BECAUSE NOW WE'RE GOING TO BE ON THE SIDE OF HAVING TO -- YOU KNOW, HAVING CODE BE ON THE SIDE OF CAUSING FINANCIAL ISSUES AND BURDENS TO THE RESIDENTS. WHAT IS OUR -- WHAT'S YOUR ROLLOUT PLAN FOR THIS TO BE ROLLED OUT, SO THAT WE'RE NOT CREATING THAT BURDEN? BECAUSE WE KNOW -- I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR A REASON, BECAUSE THERE'S AN ISSUE. >> RIGHT, CORRECT. >> THERE'S GOING TO BE AN EDUCATION PERIOD, AND THERE'S GOING TO BE A PERIOD WHERE WE GO DOOR TO DOOR AND GIVE DOOR HANGERS, P GIVE NOTICE OUT, PUT IT ON FACEBOOK AND INSTAGRAM, EDUCATE THE PUBLIC ON WHAT'S TO COME, AND NOT -- WE WON'T BE ABLE TO SITE, WE WON'T SITE FOR IT, JUST LIKE WE DID WITH THE SHORT TERM RENTALS, GIVE THAT GRACE PERIOD, ALLOW PEOPLE TO TRIM THE TREES, WHERE THEY KNOW IT'S TOUCHING A POWER LINE OR THEY HAVE OUTAGES. YOU KNOW, AND THEY ALSO -- THEY STILL CAN CALL FP & L, BUT THEY TAKE A LONG TIME TO GET OUT THERE, OR THEY HE HIRE THEIR OWN TREE TRIM EARLY. IT COULD BE SIX MONTHS, IT COULD BE A YEAR IF THAT'S WHAT IT TAKES TO GET THE WORD OUT, BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF OVERGROWN -- WILL BE CONSIDERED WITH THIS. YOU KNOW, UPDATE. BUT IT IS NECESSARY. >> I AGREE IT'S NECESSARY. THAT'S MY CONCERN, THOUGH, NOW WE'RE PUTTING THIS BURDEN ON RESIDENTS -- YOU KNOW, WE'RE SITTING HERE TALKING ABOUT BUDGET, AND TAXES, AND ALL THAT, AND NOW WE'RE CREATING AN ORDINANCE THAT -- FOR SOME RESIDENTS. I WON'T SAY MANY, BUT SOME RESIDENTS, IT'S GOING TO CREATE A FINANCIAL BURDEN TO THEM. I WANT TO KNOW, AND MAYBE EVEN BEFORE THIS PASSES, SO THAT WE KNOW WHAT THE PLAN,BUT I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE PLAN IS MOVING FORWARD, HOW ARE WE GOING TO IMPLEMENT THIS, WHAT'S THE PERIOD GOING TO BE. AND WHAT ARE THE OPTIONS FOR RESIDENTS WHO CAN'T AFFORD TO HAVE -- WHAT'S THE CITY GOING TO DO TO ASSIST THE RESIDENTS IN MAKING SURE THAT THEY CAN GET TO THE POINT OF COMPLIANCE? WHAT I DON'T WANT TO RUN INTO IS, WE JUST CONTINUE TO CODE THEM, AND VIOLATE THEM AND VIOLATE THEM AND VIOLATE THEM, AND THEY HAVE A HUGE VIOLATION BILL, AND THE TREES ARE NOT TRIMMED. AND WE'RE SITTING HERE GOING, IT'S THE LAW, AND IT'S ON YOU. THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS ON THAT, I WOULD RATHER SEE THIS GET TABLED AND HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE, BEFORE WE PUT THIS INTO PLACE. AND THEN WE CAN ADDRESS THE CARPORT ISSUE. MAYBE THAT ORDINANCE NEEDS TO COME BACK BEFORE US, SO WE CAN LOOK AT IT AND EVALUATE WHAT IT NEEDS TO BE. THANK YOU, CANDACE FOR MAKING SURE THAT YOU'RE -- I KNOW YOU HAVE NEW STAFF, I KNOW YOU'RE WORKING HARD TO GET THEM TRAINED. JUST LIKE THE OTHER -- MY COLLEAGUES, YOU KNOW, IT IS ABOUT CONSISTENCY AND MAKING SURE WE'RE BEING CONSISTENT, WE DON'T KNOW IF ONE NEIGHBOR WAS GIVEN A VIOLATION AND THE OTHER WASN'T. THE ONE GOES OUT AND PRESSURE WASHES THEIR DRIVE WAY AND THEY PAY THE FINE. >> THEY MAY BE LIENED. >> RIGHT. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR, I SAW THE CITY MANAGER'S HAND WAS UP. >> I THINK WE HAVE A CONSENSUS THAT WE NEED TO GO BACK AND TAKE A LOOK AT SOME OF THE THINGS AND TABLE THIS ITEM LIKE COMMISSIONER KELLEY SUGGESTED. IF COMMISSION CRUZ AND YOU ARE OKAY WITH THAT, WE'LL LOOK AT THE -- >> TO TABLE? >> YEAH. >> WE'LL LOOK AT THE ITEM AND BRING IT BACK AND GET FURTHER INPUT FROM YOU GUYS. >> THANK YOU. >> DID YOU HAVE ANY LAST WORDS OR THAT WAS IT? >> DID YOU WANT TO TABLE IT TO THE 15th? OCTOBER 15th? >> YOU MADE THE MOTION, COMMISSIONER. >> IS THAT ENOUGH TIME FOR STAFF TO BRING US BACK WHAT YOU WE ASK. >> 15th IS GOOD. >> MOTION AT THE TABLE TO THE 15th. >> YES. >> SECOND. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF TABLING THIS TO THE OCTOBER 15th MEETING, SAY AYE. >> AYE. >> ANYONE OPPOSED? >> THIS ITEM HAS BEEN TABLED. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM HERE, ORDINANCE 24-019, A SECOND READING. >> PROPOSED ORDINANCE 24-019, THE SECOND READING, ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF BOYNTON BEACH FLORIDA, AMENDING PART II OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, CHAPTER 26, WATER SEWER AND CITY UTILITIES. RATES SHALL BE SET BY THE CITY COMMISSION BY RESOLUTION AND AUTHORIZING AN ANNUAL CPI ADJUSTMENT PROVIDING FOR CONFLICTS, SEVERABILITY AND CODIFICATION AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE. LET ME TURN TO PUBLIC AUDIENCE ON THIS ITEM, IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC COMMENTS REGARDING THIS PARTICULAR ORDINANCE, NOW IS THE TIME TO APPROACH THE PODIUM. >> I'D LIKE TO HAVE MORE CLARIFICATION. IS THIS WHAT WE'RE BEING ASSESSED FOR AS WELL ON OUR UTILITIES? IS THIS PART OF THAT? I'M TRYING TO K3RE HEND WHAT THIS PORTION -- COMPREHEND WHAT THIS PORTION WAS ABOUT. I THOUGHT UTILITY FEES WERE ABOUT USAGE. I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS UP TO YOU TO DETERMINE WATER. AM I MISUNDERSTANDING THIS? I WOULD LIKE MORE CLARIFICATION. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO APPROACH THE PODIUM? >> LAST CALL, I SEE ONE MORE PERSON COMING UP. >> DON'T PUT SO MANY INTERESTING THINGS ON ONE AGENDA. LIKE CINDY, IS THIS A COST OF LIVE AGO JUSTMENT THAT'S BEING ADDED TO OUR WATER AND SEWAGE FEES EVERY YEAR, ON TON OF ALL THE FEES WE ALREADY PAY. I USE VERY LITTLE WATER, I'M ONE PERSON AND ECOCRAZY. DON'T EVEN HAVE GRASS IN THE YARD, I STILL HAVE TO PAY LIKE 72, $75 A MONTH. AND I USE HALF OF WHAT EVERYONE ELSE USES. NOW YOU WANT TO RAISE IT ANOTHER 3%, I DIDN'T COMPLAIN ABOUT RAISING IT A COUPLE BUCKS THIS YEAR, HAVE ONE LESS STARBUCKS AND LET'S PAY FOR THIS. COMMISSIONER CRUZ ARGUED AGAINST ME, AND THAT'S OKAY. IF YOU'RE TRYING TO DO A 3% COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT EVERY YEAR, RAISING THIS 3% EVERY YEAR, WE'VE REALLY MOVED INTO AN AREA WHERE YOU'RE WRONG. SO PLEASE STOP AND THINK ABOUT THIS, IT'S -- IT REALLY NEEDS TO BE USAGE, AND WE REALLY SHOULD BE ENCOURAGING LESS USAGE, NOT, YOU KNOW, GOING CRAZY HERE, CHARGING THE HECK OUT OF EVERYONE. THANK YOU. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER? SAY YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. >> ALYSSA HAGGANS. I'M NOT UNDERSTAND ALL OF THIS INCREASE, INCREASE, INCREASE. I'M HOPING Y'ALL DON'T KEEP PASSING ALL THESE ORDINANCE, SO WHATEVER YOU ALL CALL THEM, BECAUSE IT MAY NOT LOOK TO BE A LITTLE -- A QUARTER A DIME HERE FOR YOU GUYS, BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU ALL MAKE. ACCORDING TO WHAT I MAKE, EVERYTHING, EVERY LITTLE THING FROM THE UTILITIES, WAS LIGHTS, IT WAS WATER. YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING, IT KEEPS GOING UP, AND THOSE NICKELS AND DIMES, HURTS ME, IT MAY NOT HURT ANYONE ELSE, BUT IT HURTS ME. SO I'M NOT ON A BUDGET, AND MY HEART GOES OUT TO THE SENIOR CITIZENS, I WORK FOR THEM. I DO WORK FOR SENIOR CITIZENS, I KNOW I DON'T MAKE A LOT, AND MY -- THE TYPE OF WORK I DO, I CAN'T LESSEN WHAT I DO JUST BECAUSE OF WHAT I MAKE. I HEAR THIS BIG NUMBER, AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO DO WHERE ALL THIS MONEY. I'M HOPING IT'S GOING TO HELP ME. THE CITIZENS OF BOYNTON BEACH, I'M HOPING IT'S GOING TO HELP ALL OF US. SITTING HERE, YOU'RE TALKING SO FAST, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND SOME OF IT, I DON'T UNDERSTAND ALL OF IT, I'M GLAD I HAVE SOME REPRESENTATIVES THAT KNOWS WHAT YOU ALL ARE TALKING ABOUT, AND I'M LISTENING TO THEM ALSO. SOME THINGS I AGREE WITH THEM WITH, AND SOME THINGS I DON'T. THE 145 IS NEITHER HERE NOR THERE. SENIOR CITIZENS DO WANT YOU TO GET TO THEM. BECAUSE BUT THEY SHOULD, THEY'RE OLD AND MAYBE THEY SCANT GET AROUND, I STILL DON'T SEE WHY THE SENIOR CITIZENS I THINK WE SHOULD CUT IT OFF WHEN IT COMES TO SENIOR CITIZENS MYSELF. WHEN YOU GET OLD, YOU DON'T WANT TO DO ALL THAT, AND TRY TO -- ATE LEAST I DON'T. IF I LIVE TO SEE THEIR AGE SAYING, I QUALIFY FOR THIS. MAKE IT AN AGE LIMIT OR SOMETHING. THESE PEOPLE START WORKING AND LIVING ON A BUDGET. YOU CAN'T KEEP GOING UP, GOING UP. I CAN TAKE A LITTLE OF THE FLACK BECAUSE I'M STILL WORKING, BUT WHEN I GET OLDER, I DON'T WANT THIS COST TO KEEP GOING UP. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MY SODA AND CHIPS, BUT SEE I CAN'T AFFORD CAVIAR. IF I WORK -- I'VE BEEN ON MY JOB 38 YEARS, IF I WORK FOR THESE PENNIES ALL THESE YEARS, I DESERVE SODAS AND CHIPS. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? PUBLIC COMMENT IS NOW CLOSED. IF THERE'S ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FOR MY COLLEAGUES, I'D LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THIS ITEM. >> THE ONLY COMMENT REGARDING THIS. I MADE THE COMMENT DURING THE AGENDA REVIEW. IT REMOVES ONE LEVEL OF ACCOUNTABILITY TO CHANGE THIS TO BE A RESOLUTION AND AN ORDINANCE. IT CAN BE PUT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. HEY, THERE'S GOING TO BE A 3 1/2 INCREASE EVERY YEAR UNLESS THE COMMISSION STRIKES IT DOWN. AND IN ORDER FOR THE COMMISSION TO STRIKE IT DOWN, IT WOULD NEED TO BE PULLED FROM CONSENT UNLESS MAYBE WE REQUIRE THAT BE PLACED IN A DIFFERENT PLACE IN THE AGENDA. >> I'M SORRY, I JUST NEED CLARIFICATION FOR MYSELF AND THE CLERK, I THOUGHT WE WERE ON ITEM E, WHICH IS RELATING TO THE FIREFIGHTER PENSION? >> NO. >> I'M SORRY, YOU'RE RIGHT. I HAVE THE OLD. I WAS -- THANK YOU. I'M ON THE OLD AGENDA. >> IN REFERENCE TO WHAT YOU SAID, COMMISSIONER CRUZ. IF YOU WANT TO FIND ANOTHER SPOT TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA, STAFF IS OPEN TO DO THAT. WHATEVER THE BODY WOULD LIKE, I KNOW WE PULLED THE ONE ITEM TONIGHT AND WE OBVIOUSLY CHOSE A TABLE. BUT WHATEVER -- >> I'M SORRY, THIS IS AN ORDINANCE, IT HAS TO GO HIGHER. ALL WE'RE DOING IS PASSING THE ORDINANCE, AND IN THE FUTURE IT ONLY ALLOWS A RESOLUTION FOR THE RATE CHANGES INSTEAD OF AN ORDINANCE. >> BUT THAT COULD BE PUT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. >> YES, THAT CAN BE PLACED ON PUBLIC HEARING. >> I THOUGHT YOU WERE REFERRING TO THIS PARTICULAR ITEM. >> I THOUGHT WE WERE REFERRING TO INCREASES AT 3%. >> YOU WANT TO HAVE THAT PUT ON PUBLIC HEARING, AS OPPOSED TO CONSENT? >> YES. >> AND REQUIRE PUBLIC NOTICE -- >> HAVE TO REQUIRE THE PUBLIC NOTICE. >> WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, THE OPTICS OF IT, THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SAY YES, AND THERE'S A 3 1/2 INCREASE, AND WE DIDN'T KNOW. 30% OF OUR RESIDENTS ARE BUSY, THEY DON'T HAVE THE TIME TO DO THEIR DUE DILIGENCE. THAT'S WHY THEY VOTE FOR DUE DILIGENCE. WITH THE PUBLIC NOTICE ON THIS, I COULD SUPPORT. >> THE ONLY REASON A 3.5% IS HERE, WE'VE HAD SUCH WILD SWINGS IN OUR INFLATION FOR THE LAST 2 OR 3 YEARS. IT'S NOT AN AUTOMATIC THAT PRICES ARE GOING TO GO UP 3 TO 5%. EVERY CONTRACT THE CITY HAS, THEY DIDN'T HAVE IT IN THE PAST, BUT YOU HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR PRESENT AND FUTURE VALUES OF MONEY, AND THEY -- EVERY YEAR, YOUR DOLLAR GETS LESS AND LESS VALUE. IF INFLATION RUNS TO 9%, AND WE HAVE ESSENTIALLY YOUR DOLLAR'S WORTH THAT MUCH LESS, THAT COST GETS PASSED ON TO THE CITY, BECAUSE WE HAVE PRIVATE VENDORS THAT WE HAVE TO DO BUSINESS WITH TO PROVIDE WATER, SEWER, STORM WATER SERVICES TO THE CITY. THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. IT'S NO ONE'S INTENTION ON THIS DAIS TO RAISE THE PRICES. >> THE CONVERSATION IS, WHAT THIS IS DOING IS ELIMINATED THE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS AS AN ORDINANCE. WHAT CAN HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE, YOU COULD HAVE A COMMISSION THAT WOULD VOTE YES ON A CONSENT AGENDA ITEM, WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S OVERNIGHTED AND THE RESIDENTS ARE AWARE. I THINK THAT'S WHAT MY COLLEAGUE WAS GETTING AT. >> I'M COMPLETELY SUPPORTIVE OF THAT. >>. >> JUST WANTED TO POINT ONE THING OUT, THAT WE ARE REQUIRED TO DO PUBLIC NOTIFICATION FOR ANY INCREASES AND WE HAVE TO SHOW THAT CLEARLY WITH THE INCREASES, THAT'S A REQUIREMENT. THIS IS JUST TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE TO CHAIN THE ORDINANCE FOR EVERY FEE THAT MAY NEED CHANGING IN A COUPLE YEARS, OR NOT CHANGING WHETHER IT'S UP OR DOWN. YOU WERE ABLE TO SEE IT MORE CLEARLY N A RESOLUTION, BECAUSE WE'LL PULL OUT ALL THE -- EVERY YEAR, YOU'LL SEE ALL THE FEE. YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FEE IS IN THE ORDINANCE EVERY YEAR, THIS IS GOING TO SHOW IT TO YOU, EVERY CHANGES OR INNING CREASES OR DECREASES, WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE UTILITY FEE AND RATES, WE HAVE TO SEND PUBLIC NOTIFICATION TO ALL UTILITY CUSTOMERS. >> IS THAT A 30 DAY NOTIFICATION? >> YES, IT IS. >> IT WOULD ALLOW FOR UP TO A 3 1/2% INCREASE, BUT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO BE 3 AND A HALF, FENDING ON WHAT THE COST IS TO THE CITY, AND THE CITY IS GOING TO WORK TIRELESSLY TO MAKE SURE THAT NUMBER STAYS AS LOW AS POSSIBLE? >> CORRECT. AND IT'S STILL -- THE COMMISSION'S DECISION. WE'LL JUST BRING IT BASED ON WHAT'S NEEDED. >> THE BUCK STOPS HERE. >> MAYOR: IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE FROM MY COLLEAGUES? >> MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 24-019. >> SECOND. >> MAYOR: WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER TURKIN. CITY CLERK, COMMISSIONER TURKIN? >> YES. >> COMMISSION CANNER CRUZ? >> YES. >> VICE MAYOR KELLEY? >> YES. >> MAYOR PENSERGA? >> YES. >> THANK YOU, THE MOTION PASSES 5-0. >> WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO 8-G. WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE TWO SEPARATE -- >> NO, THAT'S FINE, THEY CAN BE TOGETHER. BUT IT'S A QUASI JUDICIAL HEARING. PEOPLE NEED TO BE SWORN. [ SWEARING-IN ] >> WE HAVE ONE PERSON THAT WASN'T SWORN. [ SWEARING-IN ] >> GO AHEAD AND READ THE ITEM. >> PROPOSED RESOLUTION NUMBER R-24-221, ADOPT THE FINAL -- I'M SORRY. APPROVE DEVELOPMENT ORDER REQUEST FOR MAJOR SITE PLAN MODIFICATION FOR THE EZELL HESTER JR. COMMUNITY PARK, TO CONSTRUCT A 17,500 SQUARE FOOT A AIRNASIUM OVER THE EXISTING BASKETBALL COURT. >> KEVIN RAMSEY, PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, DIRECTOR OF -- VISION DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC -- >> CONSTRUCTION SERVICES, PUBLIC WORKS. >> SO -- >> WAIT, WE NEED TO DO DISCLOSURES, PLEASE. >> WHO HAS THE SHEET. >> AS TO THIS MATTER, I HAVE NOT HAD EXPERT COMMUNICATIONS WITH ANYBODY, I'VE NOT RECEIVED ANY WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS REGARDING THIS MATTER, I HAVE NOT CONDUCTED AN INVESTIGATION. I HAVE NOT RECEIVED EXPERT OPINIONS REGARDING THIS REQUEST THAT THESE DISCLOSURES AND ALL WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS BE MADE PART OF THE RECORD. >> I HAVE NOT HAD ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION. I HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY WRITTEN COMMUNICATION. I HAVE NOT CONDUCTED AN INVESTIGATION. I HAVE NOT MADE A SITE VISIT, I HAVE NOT RECEIVED EXPERT OPINION EXCEPT FOR STAFF. I REQUEST THAT THESE DISCLOSURES AND ALL WRITTEN COMMUNICATION REMAIN PART OF THE RECORD. >> MAYOR: AS FOR MYSELF, I HAVE NOT HAD EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS, VERY NOT RECEIVED COMMUNICATIONS, I HAVE NOT CONDUCTED AN INVESTIGATION, I HAVE NOT RECEIVED A SITE VISIT, I REQUEST THAT THESE DISCLOSURES BE MADE PART OF THE RECORD. >> AS TO THIS MATTER, I HAVE NOT HAD ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS, I HAVE NOT RECEIVED WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS, I HAVE NOT CONDUCTED AN INVESTIGATION, I HAVE NOT MADE A SITE VISIT, I HAVE NOT MADE EXPERT OPINIONS. I REQUEST THESE DISCLOSURES AND ALL WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS BE MADE PART OF THIS RECORD, THANK YOU. >> I HAVE NOT HAD EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS, I HAVE NOT CONDUCTED AN INVESTIGATION, I HAVE NOT MADE A SITE VISIT. I HAVE NOT RECEIVED EXPERT OPINIONS OTHER THAN STAFF, I REQUEST THAT THESE DISCLOSURES AND ALL WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS BE MADE PART OF THE RECORD. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU. STAFF, WOULD YOU LIKE TO BEGIN? >> SURE. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COMMISSION. WE'D LIKE TO COME BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING, TO REQUEST APPROVAL FOR A MAJOR SITE PLAN MODIFICATION, AND FOR WHAT -- WELL, BASICALLY IT'S FOR AN AIRNASIUM, EVERYONE IN THE ROOM SHOULD BE FAMILIAR WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING OVER THERE. CONSTRUCTING A PREMIERE SPORTS FACILITY FOR THE CITY OF BOYNTON BEACH. WHAT IS AN AIRNASIUM. AN OPEN AIR STRUCTURE, THAT'S GOING TO COVER THE TWO BASKETBALL COURTS THAT ARE THERE. IT'S APPROXIMATELY A 17,500 SQUARE FOOT, IT INCLUDES LIGHTS, SOLAR LIGHTING. THE SLIDES ARE GOING A LITTLE CRAZY THERE. THE BENEFITS, BASICALLY, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, IT'S GOING TO PROVIDE YEAR ROUND COMFORT FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE USING THE FACILITY, IT WILL BE A LARGE AREA FOR LOW MAINTENANCE, IT'S A DURABLE STRUCTURE, IDEAL FOR SPORTS FACILITIES AND COMMUNITY GATHERINGS. COULD WE GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, PLEASE. I WASN'T QUITE FINISHED THERE. AND BASICALLY, THE OPTION -- IT HAS THE OPTION TO ADD SOLAR PANELS IN THE FUTURE. BASICALLY, THE SITE IMPROVEMENTS FOR THIS PROJECT WILL INVOLVE RESURFACING THE BASKETBALL COURTS WE'LL CONSTRUCT A NEW CLEAR SPAN STRUCTURE. AND RESURFACE THE EXISTING BASKETBALL COURTS. WE WILL REPLACE THE SIGNAGE ON THE BUILDING, BASICALLY ON THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING. AND THERE WILL BE ADDITIONAL SITE LIGHTING, WITH CIRCULAR HIGH. I'M SORRY, I'M HAVING DIFFICULTY SEEING THE GRAPHICS THERE. THE PROJECT SCOPES INVOLVES THE ESTIMATED COSTS ARE $1.7 MILLION. IT'S A CDGB GRANT. COMPLETION IN JUNE OF '25. IN CONCLUSION, BASICALLY, WE'D LIKE TO PUT THIS FACILITY TO USE FOR THE PUBLIC. PARDON US FOR A SECOND. >> THE NEW AIRNASIUM WILL BE A NICE FACILITY TO PROVIDE YEAR ROUND GATHERING PLACE. THAT'S ALL, THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU, BOTH OF YOU. VICE MAYOR KELLEY, AND THEN -- IS IT URGENT? >> NO, I WANTED TO SAY, I KNOW THIS PROJECT WAS YOUR IDEA. IT'S A LONG TIME COMING. AND I UNDERSTAND YOU PROBABLY WANTED IT DONE A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, BUT I I WANTED TO SAY THAT WE WORKED PRETTY DILIGENTLY TO MAKE SURE IT WAS DONE, AND I KNOW -- I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU UNDERSTOOD WE PUSHED THROUGH AND TRIED TO GET THIS ACCOMPLISHED. >> THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE THAT ON THAT NOTE, THE ORIGINAL REASON WAS FOR SOLAR PANELS, I HAD SEEN THE CALCULATIONS THAT WERE DONE, AND THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT WAS SIGNIFICANT. IT WOULD HAVE PAID ITSELF IN A FEW YEARS. AND TECHNOLOGY GETS BETTER EVERY YEAR. I KNOW THERE WERE ISSUES WITH PUTTING IT ON THE ROOF. WE CAME UP WITH THE AIRNASIUM. >> MY QUESTION IS ALONG THOSE LINES. I KNOW I ASKED STAFF, WHAT IS OUR PLAN MOVING FORWARD WITH ADDING SOLAR OR FINDING A SOLAR VENDOR TO ADD THAT WHAT I DON'T WANT TO HAPPEN IS WE PUT THIS UP AND FORGET ABOUT THE SOLAR, AND IT DOESN'T HAPPEN. I REALLY WANT TO KNOW WHAT OUR PLAN IS, BECAUSE LIKE THE MAYOR SAID, THAT WAS KIND OF THE POINT OF THIS WAS TO FIND A PLACE WHERE WE COULD INCORPORATE SOLAR. AND SOLAR IS VERY POPULAR, AND I THINK THAT -- I THINK USUALLY -- IF WE'RE SMART ABOUT IT, AND WE'RE -- FIND A PARTNERSHIP, WITH SOMEONE, WE CAN PROBABLY GET IT DONE SOONER THAN WE THINK, BUT WHAT IS THE PLAN MOVING FORWARD WITH ADDING SOLAR TO THIS FACILITY. >> WE TOOK THE SOLAR PANELS, AND USED THAT TO ENGINEER THIS STRUCTURE. THE THOUGHT PROCESS WAS, NOW, WE HAVE A ROOF THAT CAN TRIPLE THE SIZE SO WE HAVE MORE SOLAR PANELS, THAT COULD RUN ALL THE POWER OF THE ENTIRE PARKING LOT AND OFFSET THE POWER OF THE FIELDS. MOVING FORWARD, LET'S GET THIS AIRNASIUM UP SO WE HAVE THE STRUCTURE THERE. AT THAT POINT WE'RE STILL MODIFYING THE WHOLE DESIGN OF THE SITE. AND EVEN THE AREA WHERE IT'S AT NOW. YES, SOLAR IS VERY MUCH IN THE CROSSHAIRS TO DO THIS PROJECT, AS IT DEVELOPS AND EXPANDING, IT'S GOING TO BE INCORPORATED INSIDE THAT DESIGN AT THE PARKING LOT. THAT'S THE IDEA. >> ONCE WE GET GOING, YOU'LL HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT THE PLAN IS FOR SOLAR? >> YES. >> THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MY COLLEAGUES? STAFF? >> KEVIN RAMSEY. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU SO MUCH. WITH THAT, WE'LL TURN TO PUBLIC COMMENT ON THESE TWO RELATED ITEMS. THIS IS ITEM 8-F. >> CINDY FALCO -- HOW DOES THE SOLAR HOLD UP IN HURRICANES. ARE WE CREATING MORE PROBLEMS, WAS THAT THOUGHT ABOUT WHEN PUTTING THIS PROJECT TOGETHER. THANK YOU. >> ANYONE ELSE ON THESE ITEMS? SEEING NO ONE ON THE CHAMBERS OR ONLINE, PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED. THERE'S TWO SEPARATE ITEMS HERE. THE FIRST WOULD BE TO APPROVE THE DEVELOPMENT ORDER REQUEST FOR MAJOR SITE PLAN MODIFICATION FOR THE EZELL HESTER JR. COMMUNITY PARK. >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> MAYOR: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? >> AYE. >> MAYOR: OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THE SECOND IS TO APPROVE THE SITE PLAN TO CONSTRUCT A 15,000 SQUARE FOOT AIRNASIUM OVER THE EXISTING BASKETBALL COURT. >> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND. >> MAYOR: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE? >> AYE. >> ANYONE OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, NOW WE CONCLUDED 8-F, WE ARE MOVING ON TO SECTION 9. CITY MANAGER'S REPORT, PLEASE BEGIN. >> THIS IS IN REFERENCE TO AN UPDATE FOR ALL OUR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS, WHAT I REALLY WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT IS H, I, J, K, UNLESS THE COMMISSION HAS A SPECIFIC ASK OR REQUEST. WE CAN HAVE THAT STAFF MEMBER COME UP, WE CAN ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BODY AS A WHOLE. DO YOU GUYS WANT TO GO OVER ANY SPECIFIC ITEMS THAT HAVE A DATE CERTAIN THAT ARE GOING TO GO FORWARD FOR THE DISCUSSION? >> AS FOR ME, I KNOW -- YOU SAID ITEMS H, I, J, K? >> CORRECT. >> IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY'RE ONE ON ONE MEETINGS, I GOING TO STICK WITH THAT. TO HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS IN DETAIL. IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS, ABSOLUTELY. >> FOR ME, ITEM I, I DID HAVE A DISCUSSION THIS WEEK WITH STAFF. >> AND THAT'S WITH ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, ADAM, DO YOU WANT TO GO INTO ANY DETAIL AS FAR AS -- CAN WE GET A DATE CERTAIN? DID WE GET ENOUGH INFORMATION? >> WE HAD A MEETING, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A MEETING WITH COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS TO GET FEEDBACK AS TO WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE, AND THEN WE CAN WORK ON THE ACTUAL ORDINANCES AND THEN GO FROM THERE. AFTER -- I SEE THERE'S A NOTE FROM 99, WE DID HAVE A MEETING FROM THIS WEEK, WHAT WAS IT 20 -- IT WAS ON FRIDAY. SO YEAH, JUST WANTED TO GET THAT UPDATE. >> I BELIEVE THERE'S AN AMENDMENT TO THE FLOOD ORDINANCE THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE COMING ON OCTOBER 1, SHOULD I HOLD THAT PENDING -- >> NO, WE'RE GOING TO -- WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS MAYBE HAVE THAT PRINTED OUT, AND TALK ABOUT IT DURING THAT COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDER MEETING. >> BEFORE OCTOBER 1, THOUGH? >> NO, I THINK WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT ON THE COMMISSION SIDE. WE'RE LOOKING MORE ON THE DEVELOPMENT AND ENGINEERING SIDE FOR OUR LOCAL RESIDENTS. >> I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I DIDN'T BRING SOMETHING FORWARD TWICE. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR LOOKING OUT. >> WERE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON ANY OF THESE ITEMS? >> NO, I LIKE THIS FORMAT, IT'S GOOD. >> IT'S ALL -- >> IT WAS THE DEPUTY CITY MANAGER'S IDEA. >> THANKS. >> MAYOR, ON MY ITEM ON K, I SPOKE TO ANDREW AND YOU AND I WILL CONNECT WITH MAILEE WHAT SHE'S GOING TO REVIEW. IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE NEED TO CIRCLE BACK ON, WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS IT. IT DOESN'T HAVE A DATE CERTAIN YET. >>. >> IF I WANTED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON ESTABLISHING AND ACTUALLY CONSTRUCTING THE PARK AT LEISUREVILLE, DO I NEED TO GET THAT TO THE AGENDA? >> IT DEPENDS ON THE AMOUNT OF MONEY. OBVIOUSLY IT'S NEW CONSTRUCTION. WE WOULD HAVE TO -- POTENTIALLY IT COULD BE ADMINISTRATIVE, WE WOULD NEED TO HAVE A ONE ON ONE MEETING WITH YOU, AND SEE WHAT THE COSTS ARE GOING TO BE. IS WE CAN USE OUR ARCHITECT. I'M SURE ANDREW COULD USE A MOCKUP. >> I DON'T THINK IT WILL COST MUCH MONEY AT ALL, I THINK IT'S GOING TRYING TO KEEP THE LANDSCAPING N AND HAVING EVERYTHING PASSIVE. I WOULD HAVE A MEETING WITH MY CONSTITUENTS TO SEE WHAT THEY WOULD SEE. >> MAYOR: ANYTHING ELSE? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH, EVERYBODY. WE'RE GOING TO KEEP GOING-FORWARD, NOW WE'RE AT SECTION 10, REGULAR AGENDA. THE FIRST ITEM IS PROPOSED RESOLUTION NUMBER R-24-223, RATIFICATION OF THE FISCAL YEAR '24-'25 CRA BUDGET. >> SO BECAUSE THIS -- IF ANYONE HAD ANY PUBLIC COMMENT IT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED DURING REGULAR AUDIENCE, SO YOU CAN JUST MAKE A VOTE ON IT. >> MAYOR: OKAY. WERE THERE ANY COMMENTS FROM MY COLLEAGUES OR ANYTHING ELSE. >> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND. >> COMMISSIONER TURKIN, SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER HAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR RATIFYING THE BUDGET SAY AYE. >> ANYONE OPPOSED? >> MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. 10-B, DISCUSSION AND REVIEW OF DRAFT CLEANLINESS PLAN. THIS IS AN ITEM I HAD REQUESTED. THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS. >> MAYOR, VICE MAYOR. >> ANNA LEE HOLMES, WE'LL BE PROVIDING AN UPDATE ON THE CLEAN CITY ACTION PLAN THERE ARE OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT WILL ALSO BE JOINING US HERE. I'LL BE PROVIDING THE UPDATE ON THE PUBLIC WORKS PORTION. UNDER PUBLIC WORKS, WE HAVE THE ITEMS THAT FALL UNDER PUBLIC WORKS ARE STREETS AND BEAUTIFICATION DIVISION THE SIDEWALK PRESSURE WASHING, STREET SWEEPING, RIGHT-OF-WAY APPEARANCE COORDINATION, AND THE BUS STOP CONDITION ASSESSMENT. THE FIRST ITEM, STREETS AND BEAUTIFICATION DIVISION WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR CONTRACT MANAGEMENT FOR STREET SWEEPING, REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE OF CITYWIDE SIDEWALKS AND STREETS. PUBLIC SWALE TREE TRIMMING AND MAINTAINING TREE CANOPY. THIS IS GOING TO BE A NEW DIVISION. OCTOBER 6th WE'LL BE RECRUITING FOR A DIVISION DIRECTOR FOR THE BEAUTIFICATION DEPARTMENT WITH FOUR EMPLOYEES. THE SECOND ITEM IS THE SIDEWALK PRESSURE WASHING. AN INVITATION TO BID WAS PUBLISHED ON AUGUST 27th. TO SOLICIT BIDS ON THE MAJOR CORRIDORS BIANNUALLY, THESE MAJOR CORRIDORS ARE CONGRESS AVENUE, SEEK REST BOULEVARD. GATEWAY BOULEVARD, BOYNTON BEACH BOULEVARD, AND WOOL BRIGHT ROAD. A MEETING WITH THE LOCAL VENDORS WAS HELD ON AUGUST 28, 2024 BY KEVIN, WHERE HE PROVIDED THEM WITH INFORMATION ON THE AREAS THAT WE'LL BE CONCENTRATING ON. AND GIVE THEM MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE PROJECT. THE VENDORS WERE PROVIDED WITH THE LOCATION OF THE SIDEWALKS, SQUARE FOOTAGE, AND WE DID AN INVENTORY OF THE SIDEWALKS. THE NORTH AND SOUTH ROADS, THERE'S 924,000528 SQUARE FEET, AND THE EAST AND WEST ROADS, THERE'S 479,952 SQUARE FEET. THE THIRD ITEM IS AN ITEM THAT WAS PRESENTED BEFORE THE ADOPT A ROAD PROGRAM. THE ADOPT A ROAD PROGRAM WAS CREATED AND PRESENTED TO THE COMMISSION ON JULY 16, 2024. WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH IT ON GETTING THE APPLICATION AND PAYMENT PROCESS FOR THE WEBSITE AUTOMATED. WE'RE TRYING TO WORK OUT A FEW KINKS, NEXT WE WILL BE UPLOADING A WEB PAGE FOR THE APPLICATION AND PAYMENT. WE'RE TRYING TO SEE IF WE CAN AUTOMATE THIS PROCESS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. WE'RE ALSO COORDINATING WITH THE MARKETING DEPARTMENT TO PROMOTE THIS PROGRAM. WE HAVE A MEETING WITH MARKETING THIS WEEK, AND WE ARE HOPING TO LAUNCH -- TO GO LIVE OCTOBER 1st, 2024. HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE ABLE TO WORK OUT EVERYTHING WITH THE WEBSITE. IF NOT, WE WILL BE ABLE TO ACCEPT APPLICATIONS VIA EMAIL. SO WE'LL STILL BE LIVE. THE INITIAL KNEE IS $250. AND THAT $250 INCLUDES THE FIRST YEAR, AND ONE SIGN -- THE PRICE OF ONE SIGN, WHICH WILL BE WAIVED. THERE WILL BE A FEE OF $100 FOR EACH ADDITIONAL YEAR, AND THERE WILL BE A CHARGE OF $100 FOR EACH ADDITIONAL SIGN. OUR NEXT ITEM IS STREET SWEEPING. THE CITY SPENDS $160,036 ANNUALLY ON STREET SWEEPING. STREET SWEEPERS REMOVE AN AVERAGE OF 3,332 POUNDS OF DEBRIS EACH MONTH, WHICH EQUATES TO 147,984 POUNDS OR 73.99 TONS ANNUALLY. WE HAVE ESTABLISHED ROUTES AND 130 MILES ARE SWEPT ON A WEEKLY BASIS. WE LOOKED INTO POSSIBLE OPTIONS TO EXPAND SERVICES, AND TRY TO DELVE INTO WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE, AND WE THOUGHT ALTERNATING ROUTES WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA. THE FIRST WEEK OF THE MONTH WE PERFORM NORMAL ROUTES, AND THE NEXT SLIDE HAS A PICTURE OF THE ROUTES. THE SECOND WEEK OF THE MONTH, WE WOULD PERFORM 130 MILES OF ONLY NEIGHBORHOOD SWEEPING. THE 3rd WEEK OF THE MONTH, WE WOULD PERFORM NORMAL ROUTES AS ATTACHED AGAIN, THE NEXT SLIDE. THE 4th WEEK OF THE MONTH, WE'D PERFORM 130 MILES OF ONLY NEIGHBORHOOD SWEEPING. AND THAT'S A COPY OF THE ROUTES, I KNOW IT'S NOT EASY TO SEE. OUR NEXT ITEM IS A RIGHT-OF-WAY APPEARANCE COORDINATION. THE STREETS AND BEAUTIFICATION DIVISION WILL INSPECT SIDEWALKS. WE ALREADY DO. WE INSPECT THE STREET SIGNAGE, ADA TRANSITION OF SIDEWALKS, ALONG FDOT AND PVC ROADS. WE'LL SUBMIT A REPORT DETAILING THE FINDINGS, AND THESE WILL BE SUBMITTED TO BOTH FDOT AND PALM BEACH COUNTY FOR REQUESTS AND REPAIRS NOTE HEED IN THE REPORT. AND THE LAST ITEM FOR PUBLIC WORKS IS THE BUS TOP CONDITION ASSESSMENT. PALM TRAN IS CURRENTLY CONDUCTING A BUS STOP ASSESSMENT. THE PROJECT IS ON GOING, THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO PROVIDE US WITH A DATE OF COMPLETION BUT WHAT THEY WERE ABLE TO -- THEY DID PROVIDE US WITH SOME INFORMATION, ON AUGUST 30th, THEY WENT BEFORE THEIR BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS TO ALLOW CONTRACTS TO ALLOW CONSTRUCTION TO BEGIN THERE ARE TEN BUS STOPS IN BOYNTON BEACH THAT WERE ON THAT LIST. 9 WERE FOR NEW BUS STOPS, AND ONE WAS TO REPLACE THE BUS STOP, I HAVE A LIST HERE. AND THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH ON FEDERAL HIGHWAY. THE REPLACEMENT WILL BE ON FRIDAY HIGHWAY AND THE NEW ONES WILL BE AT FEDERAL. TWO ON MINOR ROAD, ONE ON GATEWAY BOULEVARD, ONE AT NORTHEAST 15th PLACE, THE OTHER AT NORTHEAST 15th AVENUE. ONE AT FEDERAL AND BOYNTON BEACH BOULEVARD. FEDERAL -- THEN WE HAVE TWO ON MILITARY AT BOYNTON BEACH BOULEVARD. NEXT WE WILL HAVE COMMUNITY STANDARDS PROVIDING AN UPDATE ON THEIR ITEMS, AND AFTER EVERYONE PRESENTS, THEN WE'LL TAKE WHATEVER QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. >> MAYOR: VICE MAYOR, GO AHEAD. >> I'M WONDERING IF I CAN ASK A QUICK STREET SWEEPING QUESTION, BEFORE WE TRANSITION TO SOMETHING ELSE IF THAT'S OKAY WITH MY COLLEAGUES. I NOTICED WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THE MAP. MINOR ROAD IS A COUNTY ROAD. IT'S HORRIBLE. IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BEAUTI BEAUTIFICATION, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT -- WE TALKED AD NAUSEAM ABOUT SIDEWALKS AND HOW WE CAN MAINTAIN AND TAKE CARE OF SIDEWALKS ON COUNTY ROADS. IT'S TECHNICALLY NOT A ROAD, IT'S ONE OF OUR THOROUGHFARES INTO THE CITY, AND IT LOOKS LIKE GARBAGE. WHAT CAN WE DO IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BEAUTIFICATION. YOU KNOW, IN ONE EAR, I TALK ABOUT A COUNTY ROAD, WE WANT TO PROTECT OURSELVES. IT'S NOT ON OUR MAP FOR STREET SWEEPING, IT'S REALLY -- IT'S IN A BAD WAY, I WAS WONDERING WHAT WE COULD DO. >> THE MORE WE GOT INTO PALM BEACH COUNTY, WE'RE SWEEPING THEIR ROADS. MY ROAD, WE'LL ADD THAT TO IT AS WELL, I CONTACTED THEM TO SEE WHAT THEIR STREET SWEEPING IS THEY HAVE DRAINAGE ON THE ROADS, I'M WAITING FOR THE ANSWER BACK TO SEE THEIR SCHEDULE. INSTEAD OF DOING THOSE ROADS, THERE'S CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ENDED UP BEING 124 MILES. NEXT TIME WE'LL DO THE PARKING LOTS AND MAYBE TWICE A MONTH INSTEAD OF EVERY WEEK OF THE MONTH. SO WE'LL DO THAT. >> I WANTED TO ADD THAT TO THE LIST OF TO ADDRESS AND CONCERNS, BECAUSE THAT IS A CONCERN. SINCE YOU TALKED ABOUT THAT. GATEWAY BOULEVARD WHEN WE FLOODED AND HAD THE RAINSTORM, WAS THAT DUE TO GUTTERS BEING FULL OR WAS THAT DUE TO -- RIGHT THERE AT THE HIGH SCHOOL, IT WAS SEVERAL INCHES OF WATER, AND THAT'S AN FDOT ROAD. OUR RESIDENTS DRIVE ON THAT ROAD. I HAD TO DRIVE ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE ROAD TO GET AROUND THIS 10 INCH PUDDLE OF WATER. >> PART OF THAT WAS DUE TO THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT WAS STORED IN THE CANALS. THAT'S WHY YOU SAW US SURCHARGE ON TO THE ROADS, WE'LL MAKE SURE WE'LL HAVE A LOT OF RAIN OVER THE LAST MONTH AND A HOOFL, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE LAKE WORTH COULDN'T PUMP IT DOWN QUICK ENOUGH. >> I WANT TO MAKE SURE IF IT'S A GUTTER ISSUE, THAT'S CAUSING -- WHERE THAT IS, THE WATER RUNS DOWNWARD. >> ENGINEERING IS GOING TO LOOK AT THAT -- WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT IT AND SEE IF WE CAN DO, PUT SOME APPARATUS THERE. >> OKAY. THANK YOU. >> GOOD EVENING AGAIN. >> MY UPDATE, AS YOU CAN SEE, AS BROUGHT FORWARD TONIGHT, THE ORDINANCE TRYING TO UPDATE FOR CHAPTER 15, SECTION 15-120, AND THEN WE HAVE SOME OTHER SECTIONS AND ORDINANCES THAT WE WAN THE TO UPDATE AS WELL IN THE FUTURE, MAYBE NOT RIGHT NOW, BUT RIGHT NOW, THE CHAPTER 115, SECTION 115-120 IS THE ONLY UPDATE I HAVE CURRENTLY. WE'RE NOW AT ENGINEERING. >> GOOD EVENING. THERE ARE TWO PROGRAMS OR INITIATIVES THAT ARE COMING OUT OF THIS DEPARTMENT FEEDING INTO THIS PLAN, THE FIRST ONE IS A COLLABORATION BETWEEN OUR ENGINEERING DIVISION AND OUR PUBLIC ART DIVISION. IT'S A TRAFFIC CONTROL BOX WRAP PROGRAM. WE DON'T HAVE ONE, BUT WE HAVE STARTED PULLING PERMITS AND GETTING THE DOCUMENTS ORDERED TO PUSH THIS THROUGH. OUR ARTS STAFF IS GETTING TOGETHER TO CALL THE ARTISTS THAT CAN BE USED AS WRAPS. THIS IS A COOL EXAMPLE OF ONE, HERE'S ANOTHER ONE -- THE SECOND PROGRAM IS OUR VACANT STOREFRONT PROGRAM, THIS DID LAUNCH A COUPLE MONTHS AGO IN AUGUST, WE HAVE ALLOCATED $25,000. WE HAVE HAD TWO INSTALLATIONS, AND ONE IN PRODUCTION RIGHT NOW. THIS IS ESSENTIALLY AN EFFORT TO BEAUTIFY VACANT STEER FRONTS. WE'RE NOT LOOKING INTO EMPTY DEAD SPACES. WE'VE DONE TWO. HERE'S A BEFORE AND AFTER OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, THIS IS ANOTHER ONE WE DID ON OCEAN. THIS HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL SO FAR. WE'RE GETTING LOTS OF INQUIRIES. >> GOOD EVENING, DANNY MICHELLA PUBLIC AFFAIRS DIRECTOR. I'M IN THE PROCESS OF PUTTING TOGETHER A LOOK AT CITY SIGNAGE, WHAT SIGNAGE WE ALREADY HAVE IN PLACE IDENTIFY AREAS WHERE WE CAN IMPROVE THE SIGNS OR CREATE NEW SIGNAGE. WE'LL IDENTIFY THE TYPES OF SIGNS, AND THIS WOULD BE WELCOMED SIGNS TO BOYNTON BEACH, BOYNTON BEACH LOCATER SIGNS, DIGITAL SIGNS, AS WELL AS SIGNS THAT CROSSOVER INTO PUBLIC ART SOMEWHAT. CONSIDERING OUR OWN BRANDING GUIDELINES, IN CREATING A PLAN TO ENSURE CONTINUITY. WHATEVER YOU CHOSE WILL BE SOMETHING THAT THE CITY WILL HAVE FOR YEARS TO COME, AND BE PROUD OF. GIS ANALYST IS CREATING A WONDERFUL INTERACTIVE MAP SO YOU CAN GET A LOOK AT FUTURE SIGNS AND POSSIBLE LOCATION FOR FUTURE SIGNAGE. THE GOAL IS TO GIVE YOU ALL INFORMATION THAT YOU NEED ABOUT SIGNAGE IN THE CITY IN AN EASY TO SEE FORMAT. SO YOU CAN GIVE DIRECTION ABOUT THE EXTENT YOU WANT. NEW SIGNAGE OR WHERE YOU WANT SIGNAGE IMPROVED OR BUILT. THIS IS ON THE AGENDA FOR NOVEMBER 5th, 4th, I'M SORRY. THANK YOU. >> MAYOR: ALL RIGHT. I'M SORRY, THESE ARE EXAMPLES OF SIGNS, IN A NEARBY CITY THAT DO SHOW THAT CONTINUITY OF BRANDING AND APPEARANCE. SO YOU CAN SEE KIND OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, AND WHAT WE'LL BE PRESENTING TO YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? >> THANK YOU SO MUCH, EVERYBODY. YOU ARE DEFINITELY ON THE RIGHT TRACK. I WANT TO POINT OUT A COUPLE THINGS, WHEN WE'RE DOING THESE ART AROUND THE CITY, WHETHER IT'S THE BOXES -- I WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE IS SOME COHERENT THEME TO THESE DESIGNS. SO IT DOESN'T BECOME LIKE A HODGEPODGE OF DIFFERENT THINGS. RATHER THERE'S SOME SORT OF THING THAT GOES ALONG WITH A PARTICULAR AREA. YOU WANT TO HAVE A CONSISTENT MESSAGE. WHEN IT COMES TO BEAUTIFICATION, AGAIN, YOU'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK, WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN, WE HAVE SOME STANDARDS THAT WE PUT IN WRITTEN LANGUAGE. WHAT IS IT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO AIM FOR? IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE DOING GOOD THINGS HERE AND THERE. WHAT IS THE ULTIMATE VISION FOR BEAUTIFICATION, THOSE ARE THE STANDARDS I'M LOOKING FOR. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WILL LOOK LIKE. MAYBE IT COULD BE, FOR EXAMPLE, AS PART OF OUR BEAUTIFICATION PLAN, THAT ALL MEDIANS THAT ARE PHYSICALLY ABLE TO DO IT WILL HAVE CANOPY TREES. JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, WHATEVER THE STANDARD MAY BE. DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR STAFF? >> I HAVE ONE QUESTION. >> MAYOR: GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER HAY. >> ON THE SIDEWALK CLEANING. I BELIEVE YOU NAMED SOME STREETS THAT WERE TARGETED. WAS 10th AVENUE ONE OF THOSE, MLK? >> NO, IT WAS NOT. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT FROM BARTON CEMETERY ALL THE WAY TO FEDERAL. BE AMONGST THOSE THAT ARE CLEANING THE SIDEWALKS. IF YOU WOULD ADD THAT STREET. >> WE WILL DO THAT WITH IN HOUSE STAFF. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND DO THAT WITH IN HOUSE STAFF, WE DID THAT ROAD PROJECT, WE'LL GO FROM BARTON ALL THE WAY OUT TO FEDERAL HIGHWAY. NOT A PROBLEM. >> THANK YOU. >> MAYOR: WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE LAST ITEM FOR TONIGHT'S MEETING, 10-C. DISCUSSION FOR RFP FOR SPEED DETECTION CAMERA FOR SCHOOL ZONES. ALSO, DISCUSS AN ALTERNATIVE OPTION OF A CONTRACT AMENDMENT WITH ATS TO INCLUDE SPEED DETECTION CAMERA SYSTEM FOR SCHOOL ZONES AND EXTEND THE CONTRACT. >> I'M HERE FOR YOU GUYS TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE SCHOOL ZONE SPEED CAMERAS. >> CURRENTLY WE ARE AT A POINT WHERE THE RFP BIDS WERE ALL REJECTED. WE'RE BACK AT SQUARE ONE, WHERE WE WERE IN APRIL AND MAY. >> ARE YOU SEEKING DIRECTION FOR US TO REBID THIS ITEM? >> TWO OPTIONS ARE TO GO OUT AND DO ANOTHER RFP. >> OKAY. >> THAT WILL ROUGHLY PUT THE PROJECT BACK TO APRIL BY THE TIME WE GO TO THE RFP PROCESS. AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE GOAL WAS TO GET THE PROGRAM UP AND RUNNING FOR THE SCHOOL YEAR. BY THE TIME WE DO AN RFP, PICK A VENDOR AND GET THE PROGRAM UP AND RUNNING, WE'RE LOOKING AT MARCH, APRIL, THE END OF THE SCHOOL YEAR, WE MISSED A WHOLE YEAR. THE OTHER OPTION IS, WE CAN LOOK FOR VIABLE CONTRACTS THAT WE CAN PIGGYBACK THAT MEETS THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY. BEST CASE SCENARIO, THAT WILL PUT THE PROGRAM UP AND RUNNING, AROUND DECEMBER AND JANUARY. >> WE CAN EITHER REBID, MODIFY OR AMEND THE EXISTING CONTRACT WITH ATS OR THE THIRD OPTION BEING WE CAN PIGGYBACK? >> CORRECT. >> MAYOR: OKAY. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE FRAMED IT PROPERLY. >> OUT OF CURIOSITY, WHY WERE THE PREVIOUS ONES REJECTED? >> AS FAR AS THE RFP. >> YES. >> IS THERE SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED? IS IT THE NORMAL COURSE OF THE EVALUATION? >> WHEN THEY DID THE SCORING, THERE WAS A TIE. AND THE SOFTWARE, THERE WERE SOME ISSUES WITH THE SOFTWARE THAT CREATED A TIE. WHEN THEY WENT OUT, AND THEY DUG DEEPER IN THE FLIPPING OF NUMBERS. WE LOOKED INTO THE NUMBERS DEEPER, AND WE SAW THAT THEY WERE ACTUALLY SWITCHED, FIRST AND SECOND PLACE. WE FELT LIKE IT WAS IN OUR BEST INTEREST TO REJECT ALL BIDS AT THIS POINT. WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO SEE -- WE HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY AT THIS POINT, WHAT THE COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO SEE US DO. AND THAT'S BASICALLY WHERE WE'RE AT. >> CITY MANAGER. >> STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION ON THIS, MAYOR, IS A CLEANER PROCESS WOULD EITHER DO A PIGGYBACK OR OPEN UP AN ADDITIONAL CONTRACT FROM THE CITY'S VENDORS WHO ALREADY DO A RED LIGHT CAMERA. EVERY SINGLE WEEK WE DELAY, WE ARE SACRIFICING PUBLIC SAFETY DOLLARS THAT COULD BE COMING BACK TO THE CITY TO THE TUNE OF 2 # $50,000 A WEEK, THAT'S THE PROJECTIONS WE'VE HAD. >> WOULDN'T IT ALSO BE COST EFFECTIVE TO PIGGYBACK? >> YES, SIR. >> THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION MOVING FORWARD TO LOOK FOR PIGGYBACKING ON SOMEONE. >> COMMISSIONER CRUISE? >> YES. >> I DO WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR WORKING ON AN RFP AND FOLLOWING THAT DIRECTION FOR THE FUTURE, I WANT TO MAYBE HAVE AN INTERNAL CONVERSATION WITH STAFF, AND FIGURE OUT HOW COME WE HAD THAT ISSUE WITH THE RFP, BUT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES DON'T HAVE THAT ISSUE. IT LOOKS LIKE WE COULD HAVE DONE SOMETHING DIFFERENTLY WITH OUR INTERNAL PROCESS. JUST A THOUGHT FOR THE FUTURE. I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF WHAT COMMISSIONER HAY STATED, ALTHOUGH I PREFER AN RFP, AND WE DID DO AN RFP, FOR THE SAKE OF TIME AND THE SAFETY OF THE KIDS AND MAKING SURE WE DO THINGS PROACTIVELY AND ON TIME, I WOULD PREFER TO GO WITH A ROUTE THAT IS COMPETITIVELY PROCURED, AND THAT WOULD NEED TO BE A BIGGIE BACK AS A PLAN B. >> ANYTHING ELSE? >> YES. >> REVIEWING THE DOCUMENTATION I REQUESTED, THE AGENDA WORKSHOP, AND THE FENGDER FEES COMPARED TO WHAT THE CITY WOULD OR WOULDN'T GET I THINK IT'S -- THE MOBILITY WHICH IS WHAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS RECOMMENDING, AND STAFF IS RECOMMENDING, THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS THERE, I BELIEVE. GETTING THIS UP AND RUNNING, YOU KNOW, FOR THE KIDS IS MY PRIORITY. AND IN ADDITION TO DOING WHAT'S BEST FOR THE RESIDENTS, AND THAT'S BEING PHYSICALLY RESPONSIBLE WITH ANY CONTRACT. I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER HAY, I AGREE TO DO THAT PEGGY BACK WITH VER REMARK SO THAT'S MY -- VERA, SO THAT'S MY POSITION. >> I DON'T THINK WE DISCUSSED A COMPANY PIGGYBACK, I THINK WE DISCUSSED THE IDEA IN GENERAL. >> I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAD SOME CLARITY ON THAT. >> WASN'T IT THAT WE RECOMMENDED VERA BE THE PIGGYBACK? FROM A PRACTICAL SENSE -- I MEAN, IF THERE'S A DIFFERENT CONTRACTOR, LET'S GET THIS DONE. WE WANT TO GET THIS UP AND READY FOR THE SCHOOL YEAR, WE ALREADY ARE WORKING WITH A COMPANY THAT KNOWS OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, THAT KNOWS OUR CITY, WHY WOULD WE NOT GO WITH THEM, UNLESS THERE'S A BETTER PRICE ELSEWHERE. >> JUST TO CLARIFY TERMINOLOGY, THERE'S RFP, THE PEGGY BACK. AND WHAT WOULD BE A CONTRACT AMENDMENT TO THEIR EXISTING CONTRACT. I DON'T REMEMBER HOW MANY VENDORS HAVE RFP'S DO YOU THINK, CHIEF, 1, 2, 3? >> I BELIEVE IT'S 3. THERE COULD BE MORE, BUT. >> I CAN TELL YOU THAT -- THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT ALL THOSE PIGGYBACKS, AND MISS KALI, YOU KNOW, THAT -- OTHER VENDORS THE RFP, WE LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS, WE ALREADY KNOW WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE, WHAT THEY'RE GIVING US. WHAT YOU'RE HEARING FROM STAFF, THEY'RE RECOMMENDING THE CONTRACT AMENDMENT WITH VERA. NOT PIGGYBACKING WITH A DIFFERENT VENDOR, WE'RE ASKING YOU MOVE FORWARD WITH A CONTRACT AMENDMENT -- >> RIGHT, THAT'S WHAT I WAS -- IF YOU LOOK AT THE DATA THAT'S WHAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE. >> IS THAT ACCURATE? >> MAYOR: AS FAR AS WHAT? >> WHAT STAFF IS SAYING? >> THE REVENUE BASIS. >> AS FAR AS THE REVENUE BASIS, THE CONTRACT AMENDMENT WOULD BE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY. >> IN THAT DOCUMENT THAT WAS EMAILED TO ALL OF US, IT SAYS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE, THE CITY AND POLICE DEPARTMENT IS RECOMMENDING THE CONTRACT AMENDMENT WITH VERA AS BEING THE MOST VIABLE OPTION IN RESPECT TO IMPLEMENTATION, AND ENSURING THAT THOSE REVENUES ARE GOING TO THE CITY, AND THE VENDOR FEES AREN'T BEING INCREASED. MY POSITION IS, IF THAT'S WHAT MY POLICE DEPARTMENT IS RECOMMENDING, AND EVEN MORE SO IMPORTANT FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION TO GET THIS THING ON ITS WAY, THAT'S WHERE I STAND AND THAT'S -- THAT'S MY RESPONSIBILITY. THAT'S WHERE I'M AT -- I'M OKAY WITH VERA. I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF THE RED LIGHT CAMERAS, BUT I UNDERSTAND AND THIS IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT CONVERSATION. THIS IS IMPORTANT. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I MEAN, WE ENTERTAINED THE RFP OPTION, I DIDN'T LIKE IT THEN, AND NOW HERE WE ARE. WE DON'T HAVE THESE -- WE'RE STILL HAVING THESE DISCUSSIONS. MY POSITION IS THAT SIMILAR TO COMMISSIONER TURKIN, IS THAT WE HAVE AN ESTABLISHED RELATIONSHIP WITH A COMPANY, THAT WE'VE HAD FOR A LONG TIME, THAT HAS WORKED WITH THE CITY, WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED SOFTWARE, IT WORKS WITH OUR SYSTEM IT'S ALL INTEGRATED, MY FEAR WITH BRINGING N IT'S REALITY, WITH BIG IN ANY NEW SYSTEM OR COMPANY, WE HAVE A ISSUE WHERE WE'RE GETTING NEW SOFTWARE, TRAINING FOR STAFF, WE'RE INCURRING COSTS THAT ARE COMPLETELY UNNECESSARY IN IMPLEMENTING A PROGRAM THAT CAN BE UP AND RUNNING FAIRLY QUICKLY. SO THOSE ARE -- MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE HAVE FLOCK ALREADY, VERA IS USING FLOCK, CORRECT? IT'S A PLUG -- WE'RE ALL COMPATIBLE, IT ALL WORKS, AND SO I DON'T SEE AN ISSUE OR THE NEED TO SEEK ANOTHER COMPANY WHEN WE HAVE A COMPANY THAT'S UP AND RUNNING. MY UNDERSTANDING, THOUGH, CHIEF, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A CONTRACT AMENDMENT, BUT THEY ALSO ARE DOING -- THEY HAVE A CONTRACT WITH DAVY FOR THEIR RED LIGHT AND THEIR SCHOOL CAMERA, TECHNICALLY, IT'S A PIGGYBACK ON THAT NEW CONTRACT AS OPPOSED -- WE'RE ACTUALLY FOLLOWING THE DAVY CONTRACT -- THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE UTILIZING, CORRECT? >> DAVY IS UTILIZING MOBILITY FOR RED LIGHT CAMERA AND SCHOOL ZONE. >> WE'RE TECHNICALLY -- WE WOULD BE GOING TO THEM OR THROW THEM UNDER A PIGGYBACK THAT THEY HAVE, IT'S A PIGGYBACK CONTRACT, CORRECT? >> IT'S A BETTER QUESTION TOWARD PROCUREMENT, AS OPPOSED TO ME, BUT THERE ARE OPTIONS, WHETHER IT'S A PIGGYBACK, WHETHER IT'S AN AMENDMENT, OR LIKE I SAID, WHICH I DON'T NECESSARILY SUPPORT, WAS GOING THROUGH THE RFP PROCESS AGAIN. >> RIGHT, NO, I AGREE WITH THAT I THINK WE HAVE WASTED ENOUGH TIME DOING THIS RFP SONG AND DANCE. SO I'M DONE WITH THAT MY POSITION IS, I'M COMFORTABLE GOING WITH VERA, I FEEL LIKE THEY'VE BEEN A SOLID COMPANY, WE'VE WORKED WITH THEM FOR A LONG TIME. THEY IMPLEMENTED OUR RED LIGHT CAMERAS WITHOUT ANY ISSUE, AND HE I FEEL LIKE THAT WOULD BE A SMOOTHER TRANSITION THAN TRYING TO BRING IN ANOTHER COMPANY AT THIS TIME, SO THAT'S MY POSITION. >> COMMISSIONER? >> AND AFTER YOU FINISH, COMMISSIONER, I SEE THAT THERE ARE APPLICANTS HERE, IF THERE'S NO MAJOR OBJECTIONS, I'D LIKE TO HEAR THEM OUT AS WELL. >> I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A QUICK COMMENT. WE DID DISCUSS THIS BEFORE. THE REASON WHY I ASKED FOR AN RFP, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE DID THE CORRECT COMPETITIVE PROCUREMENT PROCESS, I WOULD NEVER BE AGAINST COMPETITIVE PROCUREMENT. IDEALLY AN RFP WOULD HAVE WORKED OUT IN A REGULAR WAY WHERE THERE WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN A TIE. I THINK THAT'S MORE OF AN INTERNAL PROCESS ISSUE, NOT THE RFP IN ITSELF, MANY MUNICIPALITIES HAVE HAD RFP PROCESSES AND THEY'VE HAD DIFFERENT OUTCOMES. I JUST WANTED TO PUT IT OUT THERE, AND SO I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S EVER A WASTE OF TIME TO DO COMPETITIVE BIDDING. HOWEVER, BECAUSE WE ALREADY DID, NOW WE'VE CROSSED A LINE AND NOW WE'RE ON THE OTHER SIDE. I WANTED TO ADD DISCLOSURES, BECAUSE I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO DO IT DURING THIS TIME FRAME. JUST FOR THE RECORD -- >> THIS IS JUST A DISCUSSION ITEM, WE'RE NOT VOTING. THERE'S NO NEED FOR DISCLOSURES, PUBLIC HEARING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. >> WE'RE NOT VOTING? >> NO, IT'S JUST A DISCUSSION ITEM TO GET A CONSENSUS ON HOW TO MOVE FORWARD. >> ISN'T THAT VOTING? >> NO, A CONSENSUS IS NOT A VOTE. >> OKAY. >> SO IT'S OKAY IF I DON'T -- >> CORRECT. >> I DID RECEIVE A BUNCH OF EMAILS, I WANTED TO LIKE. >> MAYOR: WAS THAT IT? I'D. I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM SOME OF THE APPLICANTS, THEY'RE IN THE ROOM. YOU DON'T HAVE TO SPEAK, BUT IF YOU WANT TO, I SAW SOMEBODY ALREADY STOOD UP, SO -- >> I'LL BE VERY BRIEF. >> YES, PLEASE. >> I'LL SET A TIMER TO BE CONSISTENT AND FAIR. >> MAY I ASK A QUESTION? >> YES. >> HOW MANY APPLICANTS DO WE HAVE IN HAD THE ROOM? >> THREE. >> WE JUST NEED A REPRESENTATIVE FROM EACH GROUP, RIGHT? WE DON'T NEED ANYBODY. >> JUST TO BE FAIR, WE SHOULD GIVE EVERYONE A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME, IT'S NOT THE SAME AS PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT IT SHOULD BE AS MUCH TIME FOR EACH APPLICANT TO PROVIDE THEIR TWO CENTS. >> SINCE WE'RE DOING ONE REPRESENTATIVE PER VENDOR, I'M GOING TO LET MY CLIENT SPEAK. >> MAYOR: OKAY, LET'S KEEP IT BRIEF. >> THANK YOU. I WILL BE BRIEF. APPRECIATE YOUR TIME, AS THE HOUR IS LATE ESPECIALLY. I'M WITH RED SPEED, WE HAVE THE MAJORITY OF CUSTOMERS IN THE COUNTRY, AND IN THE STATE. MORE THAN ALL OTHERS COMBINED. WE ARE FLOCK'S PREFERRED VENDOR OF CHOICE. THERE'S BEEN FOUR RFP'S IN THE STATE, AND WE WON THREE. ONE WAS VERA'S CUSTOMER WHO ALREADY HAD RED LIGHT. AS FAR AS SOME OF THE ISSUES, WE UNDERSTAND THEM ALL. WE VERY BEEN SELECTED JUST IN THE SHORT TIME THE LAW'S BEEN IN PLACE FOR SEVEN VERA RED LIGHT CUSTOMERS TO GO WITH OUR BEST OF BREED SCHOOL ZONE SPEED CUSTOMER. AND OPERATE PROGRAMS. THE MOST RECENT RFP WAS PLANTATION. THERE'S BEEN SIX JURISDICTIONS PIGGYBACKED ALREADY OFF THAT. I DO BELIEVE, I DON'T KNOW YOUR PROCUREMENT CODE, I'M NOT AN ATTORNEY. I RECALL THIS CONTRACT WASN'T BID THE FIRST TIME, THE RED LIGHT. THERE'S A LOT OF MACHINATION ON THE CONTRACTING MECHANISM FOR DOING RFP OR A PIGGYBACK OFF AN RFP. THE DAVY WAS NOT -- THE SPEED WAS NOT COMPETITIVELY BID EITHER, IT'S ADDED ON. I WILL BE BRIEF, MAYOR, AS YOU ASK. WE THINK WE OFFER A LOT OF TECHNOLOGY THAT OTHERS DON'T. THE MARKET HAS SPOKEN TO THAT. WE'D LOVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A PRESENTATION TO YOU OR YOUR STAFF. APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION THIS EVENING. >> OKAY. THANK YOU. NEXT APPLICANT? >> CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD? >> SIR, IF YOU COULD COME BACK AND STATE YOUR NAME NOR THE RECORD? >> APOLOGIES. GREG PARKS RED SPEED FOR THE RECORD. I JUST CONFERRED WITH STAFF, AND I WANT THE COMMISSION TO KNOW THAT WE DID NOT INVITE VENDORS HERE, SO THERE MAY BE VENDORS THAT DID APPLY THAT ARE NOT HERE TO MAKE THEIR PRESENTATION TO COUNCIL AS WELL P >> MAYOR: THANK YOU FOR LETTING US KNOW. >> STEVEN ABRAMS, REPRESENTING -- MAKE NO MISTAKE, THE COMPARATIVE PROCESS DID TAKE PLACE. IN THE EMAIL THAT I SENT YOU, THE SELECTION WAS ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT THEIR CHOICE BASED ON EFFECTIVENESS, EFFICIENCY, A NUMBER OF OTHER FACTORS, GOING IN THE DIRECTION YOU'RE GOING HAS SOME PROBLEMS, FIRST OF ALL, AS I POINTED OUT IN THE LEGAL MEMO WE ISN'T YOU, I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU CAN EXTEND AN EXISTING CONTRACT FOR SERVICES THAT WERE NOT CONTEMPLATED IN THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT. SECOND JUST AS A POLICY PERSPECTIVE WHICH YOU'VE DISCUSSED, THE COMMISSIONERS LOOKED AT THE OPTION TO AMEND THE CONTRACT BACK IN MAY. AND DETERMINED FOR GOOD REASON, AS A NEW PROGRAM, UNIQUE, NATURE OF THE NEW PROGRAM, THEY PREFER THE RFP, AND WE ALL AGREE THAT REPRESENTING IT WOULD TAKE TOO LONG, YOU DO HAVE AN OPTION IN YOUR PROCUREMENT CODE WHEN YOU DON'T COME TO AGREEMENT WITH A VENDOR TO ENTER INTO A NEGOTIATION WITH ANOTHER FIRM. I WOULD SUBMIT THAT ALTIMATE WOULD BE THAT FIRM AS THE NUMBER ONE UNANIMOUS CHOICE OF YOUR SELECTION COMMITTEE. THERE ARE ISSUES WITH THE DAVY CONTRACT. I'M GOING TO CALL UP JASON NORTON AS THEIR SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT TO EXPAND FURTHER ON THAT. >> TO THINK ABOUT THE DAVY CONTRACT, THE RFP PRICING WAS 10% HIGHER THAN OURS, IF YOU LOOK AT THE DAVY CONTRACT AND YOU READ THE WORDS IN THERE, THERE ARE CONTRACTUAL DICTATIONS THAT WOULD REQUIRE THE PRICE TO GO UP. IF THE POLICE DON'T REVIEW OR APPROVE 90% OF THE EVENTS SENT TO THEM. IF YOU DON'T GO TO COLLECTIONS, YOU DON'T INSTALL A REGISTRATION HOLD, THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO INCREASE THEIR PRICING. THERE'S ASPECTS IN THERE ABOUT THEM KEEPING THE META DATA FROM THEIR PROGRAM. I DON'T THINK YOU, I DON'T THINK THE CITIZENS WANT A VENDOR OWNING THAT INFORMATION. THERE ARE CAVEATS WITHIN THAT CONTRACT. IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR SPEED, VERA SIGNED THAT CONTRACT ON JANUARY 4th, 2024, AND THEY STILL DON'T HAVE A PROGRAM, YOU'RE 10 MONTHS IN IF YOU WANT TO P TERMINATE THE CONTRACT, UNDER THE DAVY PROGRAM, IT'S $37,000 PER CAMERA. THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY LEFT, AND THERE'S NO SODA AND CHIPS LEFT AFTER THAT. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU. LAST CALL? OTHERWISE WE'LL MOVE ON. ONE MORE, AND THAT'S IT. DID THEY STATE THEIR NAME FOR THE RECORD? >> GARY GOBAL. I'M NOT A VICE PRESIDENT, I'M AN ACCOUNT EXECUTIVE. I WAS PASSING THROUGH, THOUGHT I'D STOP AT THE MEETING TO LISTEN TO WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, SOMETIMES IT'S BEST NOT TO SAY ANYTHING AT ALL. WE'VE BEEN YOUR VENDOR FOR A LONG TIME NOW, I THINK WE'D CONTINUE TO BE YOUR VENDOR >> MAYOR: ALL RIGHT. QUESTIONS FROM MY COLLEAGUES? >> I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. 6 I HEARD SOMEBODY INTERESTING FROM THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER, THEY TALKED ABOUT TERMINATION OF CLAUSES, DO WE HAVE INFORMATION ON ALL THE POTENTIAL APPLICANTS ON HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST FOR CANCELLATION? >> WHAT WE WOULD HAVE TO DO IS -- AND AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING AT PIGGYBACKING. UNTIL WE HAVE, OR NOT PIGGYBACKING, THE CONTRACT AMENDMENT. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT, THE CONTRACT DETAIL, STACY WOULD GO THROUGH THOSE, MAKE SURE IT HAS THE PROPER LEGAL TERMS AND IF THERE ARE ANY OF THOSE ITEMS AS OUR OFFICE DOES. WE PROVIDE YOU A MEMO, WHICH INDICATES, THESE ARE THE RED FLAGS, AND YOU CAN CHOOSE TO -- SOMETIMES IT'S A BUSINESS DECISION, WITH REGARD TO WHETHER YOU ACCEPT RISK IN CERTAIN CONTRACTS OR YOU DON'T UNTIL WE KNOW THE DIRECTION THAT STAFF WANTS TO GO, WE WON'T MAKE THAT LEGAL REVIEW, AND WE WON'T BE ABLE TO REALLY ADVISE THEM UNTIL THEY COME UP WITH BUSINESS TERMS AND WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR. >> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHOEVER WE END UP CHOOSING ULTIMATELY IS NOT -- THERE ISN'T AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PRICING TO BE INCREASED ON THE CITY, FOR WHOEVER IT IS. >> THOSE ARE JUST TERMS WE HAVE TO LOOK AT ONCE WE GET A LITTLE FURTHER DOWN INTO THE NITTY-GRITTY. HERE AT THE STAGE WE'RE AT NOW. WE HAVE NOT MADE ANY DECISIONS WITHOUT DIRECTION WITH REGARD TO WHICH WAY TO GO. >> IF WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THE PIGGYBACK PROCESS, YOU WILL INFORM US OF THOSE TERMS AFTER YOUR ANALYSIS, CORRECT? >> YES, YOU WOULD HAVE TO APPROVE ANY CONTRACT IN ANY BUSINESS TERMS THAT MAY NOT BE ON ITS FACE, MIGHT HAVE PAUSE, AND THEN -- YOU KNOW, IT'S UP TO THE COMMISSION TO DETERMINE WHETHER THEY'RE WILLING TO TAKE THAT RISK IN THAT CONTRACT. >> AND LAST QUESTION, IF I MAY. ARE WE SAYING THAT THERE ARE TWO POTENTIAL PIGGYBACK OPPORTUNITIES? AND THEN -- I HEARD EARLIER, I WANT TO MAKE SURE I HEARD CORRECTLY. IS IT TRUE THAT THE DAVIE CONTRACT WAS NOT COMPETITIVELY PROCURED? OR IS THAT INCORRECT IN. >> UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T KNOW ANY OF THOSE DETAILS. THAT'S REALLY A PROCUREMENT QUESTION AND MY OFFICE DOESN'T GET INVOLVED UNTIL WE'RE FURTHER DOWN IN THE PROCESS. ALL OF THOSE THINGS COME FROM PROCUREMENT. >> WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH A CONSENSUS WHICH IS A DECISION. IT'S GOOD TO HAVE THOSE ANSWERS BEFORE WE ENTER INTO A CONTRACT. THAT'S KIND OF THE PURPOSE WHY I WANTED TO HAVE AN RFP IN THE FIRST PLACE. >> I THINK WHAT STAFF IS LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW, IS NOT NECESSARILY A CONTRACT BUT AN AMENDMENT. >> STACY WINEGROVE, DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY. BEFORE YOU IS A COUPLE OPTIONS, ONE, I THINK WE'RE LOOKING FOR A LITTLE BIT OF DIRECTION OF, DO YOU WANT TO GO BACK OUT FOR ANOTHER RFP OR DO YOU WANT STAFF TO EXPLORE THE OTHER OPTIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO THE CITY? THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR TONIGHT, AT WHICH POINT IF THE DIRECTION IS, WE WANT TO GO BACK OUT TO RFP, WE GO BACK OUT TO RFP. IF THE DIRECTION IS, BRING THOSE BACK BACK TO US, WITH THE PRICING COMPONENTS, HIGH LEVEL TERM OVERVIEWS I DO FOR YOU IN MY DISCLOSURE MEMOS, THAT'S HOW HE WITH PROCEED. THAT'S MORE OF THE INFORMATION WE CAN SUPPORT NOW. >> I SUPPORT STAFF COMING BACK TO US WITH FURTHER ANALYSIS. I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S VETTED THROUGH NOT JUST PROCUREMENT, BUT ALSO THROUGH LEGAL. THAT IS MY PREFERENCE. >> JUST TO BE CLEAR. WOULD THAT METADATA BE PUBLIC INFORMATION OR JUST COME BACK TO US -- WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO TELL US ABOUT. >> ABOUT WHAT EACH CONTRACT OFFERS? >> IF THE BOARD IS TO ACCEPT AN AMENDMENT OR WHAT PIGGYBACK OPTIONS EXIST, THEN A SUMMARY OF ALL OF THOSE OPTIONS SHOULD COME BACK TO THE BOARD FOR FURTHER REVIEW AND DISCUSSION. >> COMMISSIONER TURKIN, YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP. >> YEAH, I THINK WE WANT TO LOOK AT OTHER OPTIONS AND NEGOTIATE, RIGHT? WE ALL WANT TO IMPLEMENT WHEN WE CAN, AND GET THE BEST DEAL FOR THE CITY. I'M NOT GOING TO LISTEN TO ANYTHING OR UNLESS I SEE IT IN THE CONTRACT. THIS STUFF WITH DAVY AND THE META DATA, THAT'S TRUE, I CAN'T MAKE A DECISION OR EVEN ENTERTAIN THAT OPINION OF SOMETHING WITHOUT LOOKING AT IT, AND SEEING A CONTRACT, SO I'D LIKE TO LOOK AT OPTIONS. AND IF IT'S NEGOTIATING WITH VERA, CONSIDERING ALL THESE CONCERNS I'VE HEARD, LET'S DO THAT, MAYBE THERE'S DIFFERENT OPTIONS. >> I JUST WANT TO ECHO THE SENTIMENTS OF THE MAYOR AND THE BODY -- WHAT STAFF'S LOOKING FOR TONIGHT IS THE REMOVAL OF THE RFP PROCESS, SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AND GET THE INFORMATION AND ANALYSIS YOU'RE ALL LOOKING FOR, THAT'S THE PRIMARY CONSENSUS WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING AND MOVING FORWARD. >> BUT I WANT TO ASK FOR A FEW SPECIFIC THINGS. >> MAYOR: LET'S FINAL COMMENTS. >> SURE. ONE THING, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I WANT TO ASK IN YOUR ANALYSIS, WAS THIS COMPETITIVELY PROCURED, THAT'S ONE OF THE TOP THINGS FOR ME. WHAT HAPPENS TO THE DATA, IS IT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, IS IT AN OUTSIDE COMPANY, I WASN'T AWARE OF THAT. NOW THAT I'M CONCERNED IT WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION, IT'S IMPORTANT TO THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY. WHAT MAKES THEM DIFFERENT. LIKE IF WE HAVE FIVE, SIX VENDORS, WHY SHOULD WE GIVE THE CONTRACT TO YOU. THAT'S IT. >> MAYOR: SOUNDS GOOD. IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE CONSENSUS HERE ON BRINGING BACK MORE ANALYSIS TO THE COMMISSION. THANK YOU SO MUCH, EVERYBODY. AND THANK YOU TO THE CHIEF, AND DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY FOR YOUR INPUT. WITH THAT IF THERE'S NO FINAL COMMENTS, MAY WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. >> MOTION TO ADJOURN. >> SECOND. >> MAYOR: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? >> AYE. >> MAYOR: THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED, THANK YOU SO MUCH, EVERYBODY. HAD