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for all I wish to announce that 48 hour notice is required under the open public meetings act with emailed to the Asbury Park Press the coast star and the new poster on December the 7th of 2023 that a copy has been placed on the bulletin board in the burrow office and that a copy has been filed with the municipal clerk as a courtesy to the public this meeting may be attended via Zoom if for any reason the zoom portion of this meeting fails or is disconnected the inperson meeting will continue an action can and will be taken as long as providing there as a council Mr Noble here Mr gboi here M Mahoney here Mr Weber here mayor Fox here good evening everybody uh just second get my organized here uh okay thank you uh thank you all for coming tonight um again we I just want to do a little Preamble that the started Council meetings with a positive message and uh although we should welcome this agreement we certainly want to uh keep things constructive um we ask people to try to engage in a productive and positive way and we'll ask everybody to also gauge their tone going forward we're all neighbors okay uh as previously communicated uh we're trying some new approaches to our meetings for process for 20124 uh this is our first Workshop departmental readout meeting uh un fortunately uh one of our uh agenda items for tonight the um Public Works uh two two things were kind of operative first for those who don't know our acting Ro administrator had a death in her family this week U she's on her way back as we speak um she's been out since last Thursday uh and Monday night the public work supervisor really came in with an unavoidable family and I just felt like if we were missing both those people you speak up in please it's hard to hear you it wouldn't be appropriate can you hear me no you can't hear me can you hear me now okay um so uh with that we're going to push that to the 13th but I I've been told that the what they're calling themselves the core for are going to do a very good job that would be Pat Allen andio pone andrewes and is actually going to come and help us you know understand all the inner workings of Public Works um we're also going to continue to try to tighten our clock management um but but I'm sure everybody's heard um we'll ask you to work with us on that in the coming weeks so with that uh the next agenda item is I believe Council comments yes mayor and Council reports um I can start uh we budgeted around 10 minutes and see how we do um I have just a couple comments first I want to thank Public Works uh and other Public Safety departments for their work around the storm this week uh it was kind of a ineter but we we fared pretty well a little bit of snow on the ground uh but the files we got out just to make sure um you know we have a safe condition so uh we thank them for that uh we are completing I I thought it would be appropriate to say let people know we're completing the final touches and have a phase reoccupy bii um that's outlined uh I think everybody will see that it is better than ever when they do see the inside of the building uh the first up move is uh Community Development which is zoning planning code and um they're going uh to start moving on Friday meals on wheels will be later next week if not the following Monday and then our February senior club meeting will be on the 28th in the bazza building uh we're going to continue to work with the Historical Society on plans both interm and long term uh we had one I guess one or two meetings with Paul the shin also met with the Historical Society on Monday uh and so we've got a we've got some uh ideas on how to uh maybe optimize them as we move forward uh last thing is uh just check the website for uh library and Recreation upcoming events and with that I will that's my comments U councilman okay thanks thanks everybody Happy Valentine's Day being here love that you're here uh I'm going to start off by making a comment on the agenda um I just want to go on the record and say I don't actually agree with the part of the agenda where it says that people the public comments are limited I mean this one's 15 minutes this one's 20 minutes I don't know what we're going to do with more than you know three or four people or five people want to speak so um I mean I know we'll say we'll get your questions answered but um I just don't exactly like that uh say Fletcher Lake commission they skipped their meeting in February um but they are grateful that previously they had asked for a sign about the motorized vehicles uh not going over the foot Bridge they got their sign they're very happy about that um they've actually requested another sign because it's we already have an ordinance you're not supposed to feed Wildlife uh and apparently some people don't feed a lot of wildlife uh and that's a bit of a problem um so they've asked for another sign and um for some reason they're being pay for it I don't really understand this last sign they just we just did the sign um I I know I don't know if this made it way up to you mayor but um not really understanding the arguments that the commission themselves have to pay for a sign that's just deals within the ordinance that we already have so hopefully that will work itself out um and uh I don't have anything about shade trecks I'm going to let I'll cover that Council Noble do that so that's the extent of my report okay great thank you Council okay um the uh environmental commission met on February 5th and they are currently in the process of completing Bradley Beach's Sustainable New Jersey certification which recognizes municipalities for implementing practices that lead to cost Savings in water energy and garbage um to work toward a sustainable future the certification will also allow Bradley Beach as municipality to apply app for Sustainable New Jersey New Jersey grants and programs uh the commission is developing new educational materials for cover uh covering plastic film street sweeping Recycling and bulk pickup to distribute at the green Fair which will be held on April 21st and they're moving ahead with their adop adopted during program which will be introduced at their next meeting to be held on April 1st because they are not going to hold their uh March meeting and the land use board will have a meeting tomorrow February 15th and that is my report great thank you councilman uh thank you Mr Mayor the um the 2024 budget we've talked about this a little bit I just want to remind everyone that uh normally it would be due at least a preliminary draft to the council end of January uh at an earlier meeting we uh pushed the deadline for delivery out to no later than February 27th um um an update as of today we don't the council has not yet seen a draft budget but the hope is we haven't had an update recently but the hope is that at a minimum we'll get it uh on the 27th and hopefully maybe a little bit earlier while we're on the topic of budgets um the 2022 audit I'm told by the mayor is almost complete um the council was just notified uh recently that a close out audit closeout meeting where the auditor takes the administration through their findings for the 2022 year uh is tentatively scheduled for uh next week next Wednesday February 21st and one of the council members uh will represent you know the rest of the members again we can only have two people in a meeting or else we're deliberating which is not uh Allowed by law um so I volunteer to attend if one of my other colleagues would like to attend you know I'm I'm very willing to uh negotiate that but at least one of us will be there for the meeting hopefully next week um I do have a police report and uh thank you detective Lieutenant brownie the police arrested a subject for receiving stolen property and they also arrested two individuals on outstanding contempt of court warrants so fortunately a relatively um calm month although I'm I'm told that the police in fact are very busy unfortunately crime is very low so for at least for a month there's a reason for that thank you guys that great force we have um we are still we the council working with the mayor is still fine-tuning the bbca uh memorandum of understanding uh hopefully next week when uh our business administrator returns and Mr Canon is available uh we'll we'll fine- tune that it's really important for the council and the mayor the governing body basically to just all agree that you know we've got a really good working contract to make sure that we can support the bbbc as much as we can um and then finally the silv lake commission their next meeting is February 21st um I have followup with them that I will owe the mayor and our business administrator after that meeting just to confirm uh members uh uh status of you know how many years into their membership they are and I should have that at the end of uh next week that concludes my report thank you counc president thank you mayor the shave tree had a meeting on February 7th and they had four applications they approved them all looks like there are eight trees being removed but there will be 13 replacing those trees the tentative date for the the planting is May 4th if you are interested in getting a free tree in front of your home between your sidewalk and the street you can fill out this form it's free you'll get like a 6 to 10ft tree free or if you like to have a tree to honor someone you fill out this form and that help subsidize this program and we make Bradley Beach Greener and better and uh the tourism had their meeting yesterday February 13th they are looking forward to the Shamrock Shamrock hunt on March 6th let me say oh I think it'll be the week of St Patrick's Day so around then and also the green Fair will be April 21st from 11:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. and just a heads up they're planning to have the best summer ever and then I went to the board of ed meeting and the Board of Ed was presented with their their audit for the fiscal year of July 1st 2022 to June 30th 2023 last Tuesday and received a glowing report on their financial status they were audited by HFA who presented a slideshow of their work along with praise for the board's administrative team of superintendent Michael heidberg and CFO David tanzola and we thank them for watching our tax dollars and creating such a wonderful environment for our Bradley students uh we're still waiting for our Pro audit for the calendar year of 202 I think we can anticipate to see that next week and we look forward to seeing that and one more thing January was school board recognition month and um Michael heidberg had a statement I'd like to share with you the Bradley Beach school board has shown great dedication and commitment to ensuring the success of students in this community they have consistently made decisions that have positively impacted the educational experiences of students from implementing new programs to providing funding for necessary resources the board's hard work and dedication has not gone unnoticed by the community and they should be recognized and celebrated during school board recognition month and personally I would like to thank these hardworking volunteers they are appreciated and they are admired thank you thank you council president you're welcome okay um we'll now go to um workshops you went first sorry I just want to interject what did I um sorry fireing first day we decided we're going to report out monthly uh did they had meetings I went to both of their meetings but instead of reporting every meeting it's going to be every other meeting so I just want to say that thanks thank you okay uh so our workshops um we we have really two um uh the next two agenda items are really more uh um interaction workshop on fallen heroes councilman gubitosi I assume is going to lead um we've got that budgeted for about 10 minutes which which includes some uh uh public back and forth questions if if appropriate uh presentations sub M as I said we're going to go the uh Public Works we a bbca town survey CME projects and then we have two proclamations that we'll be reading um uh on the on the presentations and bids um the interaction with the bbca and CME primarily be with us at the council so with that I'm going to turn it over to council toi um oh it's up on the board we we do we have a PowerPoint presentation and anyone who might want to follow along there are some scattered hard copies of the presentation in the uh in the audience um I expected to have Mr William Duffy join us this evening uh he's been just as a wealth of information for me on this topic unfortunately um he's helping his wife through an illness and he's unable to join us tonight so uh so I will come inere his presentation um but I met Mr Duffy through um basically through his Facebook posting he uh if if you're following along we could turn to slide one and um quick background on on uh Mr Duffy who is just I call him Duff is that he lives in Township Vietnam era veteran uh did not I don't I don't believe he actually served in Vietnam but he did serve during that time period 68 to 71 been law enforcement for 40 years and what's probably most important is he has made his passion um the the historical uh research on fallen heroes fallen heroes uh focusing primarily on MTH County um he has already compiled 19 biographies of Bradley reaches 19 uh individuals who lost their lives during the war um we'll talk about that in a minute but there's seven in World War One 11 World War II and one gentleman in Vietnam who died in service um he's made it his his basically life passion to research this he posts these things on Facebook and this is how I I first connected with him he's also worked with many other municipalities including some of the ones listed here fad Point Pleasant Beach Point Pleasant burrow and a few others on the next slide if we can go to that um are just some examples of banners that some towns around New Jersey used to recognize their fallen heroes um Brick Township uh on the left side of this slide is actually um representative of banners that Duff helped Brick Township create and then there are just a couple of other pictures from Haslet and Handover but many towns in New Jersey do recognize their falling in this manner on the next slide U there's a couple other forms of recognition the um there's a brochure that Mr Duffy's put together um and in inside this kind of a brochure I mean it can be designed however the burough would like but in in uh in this form that might be in our case you know as many as 10 to 20 Pages um he profiles all of the individuals who died in service and you can see a little excerpt of one of the brochures that that they did for Point Pleasant Beach you can also certainly have monuments as we have in the center of this page Our Own World War I Memorial and you can have monuments uh in a lot of different shapes and sizes the far right is just a boulder with a a bronze plaque uh that also recognizes voling heroes in in another town what I really want to get to is the the next couple of slides because you know Bradley Beach does have as I mentioned our own fallen heroes uh individuals who were residents of Bradley Beach went off to serve never returned um we have a World War II Memorial pictured on the left it's labeled Veterans Memorial Field because that's where it's located uh that that facility near the rec center um and at the base of that uh World War II Memorial you can see in the center is the um a separate Memorial uh piece of granite basically that we've dedicated to our fallen hero from Vietnam Stewart mman on the far right you can see our Riley Park World War I Monument um in talking to I reached out uh to to Duff because I said you know what do you think you've done all this research on Bradley Beach and other towns you know what do you think of what we do and what could we do to improve uh uh our memorialization of of these individuals and uh he did have very specific recommendations I'd like to share them as part of this workshop and invite the public to provide their reactions but he said you know first and foremost he really thinks we should have more of an effort to have all of our uh recognition located in one place so on Memorial Day you know when we're when we're recognizing uh these honored dead um we're not traveling around for example going over to u to Veterans Park as well as Riley Park and so forth in fact the the Stuart Melnick Vietnam memorial that was originally set up at the beach I'm told and there was a major storm 10 years 15 years ago whenever I'm not sure the time frame but that basically wiped out that area of a park dedicated to Mr Melnick and that's when we moved this Granite block to um to uh Veterans Field so he suggested he said he if he was us he would not move those monuments he would leave them where they are they're already labeled Veterans Field at least the World War II memorialist but he said he would possibly consider creating having us create a separate Monument of source doesn't have to be particularly large maybe a brass plaque that identified again the uh the uh 11 World War II dead soldiers as well as the one Vietnam de uh just have a smaller plaque perhaps somewhere at Riley Park alongside or nearby or in the general location of the World War I Memorial he said bringing them all together would make it a lot easier for us as a community to recognize these men um a minor thing I guess for our DPW he did suggest that our World War II Memorial is a little tilted I didn't notice that myself but to the extent it is you know we can certainly uh correct that um maybe the more you know the more uh different you know departure I guess for Bradley Beach would be the thought of creating 19 of those banners that I I Illustrated earlier um one for each of our Bradley Beach Fallen Heros um and rough pricing on those uh I have done no super detailed investigation but I've talked to a couple of entities you know they the pricing varies based on quantity and size but roughly the number should range between $50 and $65 around $1,000 to $1,200 for if we recognize 19 of our fallen heroes um also for probably under $2,000 Mr W said he could create a brochure uh or work with us to help us create one where we could use at no charge from him at all um the profiles that he's developed for our our fallen heroes the next slide um just kind of encapsulates what I was just talking about if we were to create a a smaller memorial for Riley Park uh that would just commemorate World Bo to in Vietnam as well as doing the fall and hero banners as well as doing the brochure the high end of the cost range might be10 to1 122,000 and that would be if we had a significant cost invested in the new Memorial um edifice Stone whatever it might be uh there's a very good chance we could do that much less expensive a bronze plet by itself might be $5,000 but if we can mount that if DPW can help us perhaps with some sort of a a little construct uh there may be minimal cost uh for the burrow so 10 to 12,000 is a kind of highend um and then we have to make decisions and keep in mind we're trying to do this if we can pull this off do it by Memorial day of this year May 27th the decisions we look at include um the design and the location of the banners the uh design and location of the new war memorial uh possibly utilizing DPW and uh we're going to talk about this a little later today establishing a trust um for private donations support fallen heroes we're not thinking about spending taxpayer dollars on this but asking for for private contributions um one of the things we have to figure out is how we're going to go about asking for those donations uh one thing uh the the governing body has asked me to convey to everyone this evening is that uh the five Folks up here have already pledged $1,000 towards that goal just from from U our resources so that is the general plan it's not in the PowerPoint slide but in the back of any of the paper documents there's actually um Duff's write up the bio he put together of U of uh Mr melck and you get a sense for the amount of depth he's done in terms of researching our fallen heroes so this bio would go in a brochure if we were to put one of those together um again I hope Mr Duffy could be here just so you can share experien too of what he's done with other municipalities but I was personally just overwhelmed by all the effort he's put into his research and what he's done with other towns and uh I've had an opportunity to bounce this off with everyone up here uh we're very supportive trying to bring this forward to just get Bradley Beach that much further down the path of really being able to appropriately recognize these individuals who have given their lives in service of our country but we also wanted to give uh you our residents here in on Zoom a chance to um opine and provide any feedback you can to us so that concludes my presentation yes okay good thank you the Champ for 11 a half D approached me actually about 6 months ago I don't know if he mentioned it to you I was remiss and really not moving this forward glad you have um I'd like to vouch for his research has been fantastic and if you actually seen his postings which he's been posting also I've been reposting on the historical societ website and they they're all up there um the number of photographs and articles associated with each one of the fallen heroes is really quite an immense amount of of research and he's really done a great great job um I'm not sure if I agree with him though on not moving The Monuments I think it would be really good if all the monuments were in one place in Riley Park um but that's just you know might save some money and also I just think it would be appropriate to have them all in one place um certainly the melanic of Monument certainly should be improved it's it's really invisible I have no idea where it was on the beach I have not been able to find exactly where it was but I think it might have been near the fountain originally yeah there's a similar um Paul there's a similar about the same size for one we have two Fallen polic men through the years and the prominade the flag at the prominade there's a very similar kind of a memorial to one of those police officers I know there's uh there's a scattering around town of f there so you're probably I'm sure that we have not on Memorial Day actually going down the Veterans Field to no play a roof there and that's that's always bothered me so I really think it should all be in one place we we do have as the mayor said two Fallen zero police officers this clearly is focused on the military but it was bud cins and Jack wri are two thank you Paul anybody else yes Jake 62 Third Avenue um I just had a comment about the picture of the World War I Monument uh would it be possible to mount additional U brass plaques underneath the ones that are there and not create another edifice in the park but you know improve the one we have um you know that way all those would be at one location for review by the public it's just a thought but thank you very much for putting us together okay thank you councilman this is um I've read a number of as Paul has and others Mr dep's um biographies of these U folks and it's it's really compelling and great job com Mr Mayor I too like the idea monuments in one place the problem is that World War II monument at the very top it says Veterans Memorial Field so it's sort of like you take it away from the field then it's you know um I think I like your idea Paul but I think one way or the other we're probably make any monum figure it out okay um we'll move to presentations and bits um I thought we would start with um bottoms up here um we have two proclamations I thought we would um read those first and then um go to bbca and then CME we've got about 60 Minutes budgeted for that and we're pretty much on course right now uh I can start with the um the first Proclamation uh proclamation in memory of burough resident Harvey Rosenberg uh you can hear me whereas on behalf of the buau of Bradley Beach the mayor and Council to record the Deep sorrow for passing of Harvey Mr Harvey Rosenberg on December 31st 2023 and whereas Mr Rosenberg was a beloved husband father grandfather friend resident and Community volunteer whereas he was a full-time resident of the bough Bradley Beach for over 20 years Vice chairman of the land use board and co-chair of the Memorial Day committee and whereas Mr Rosenberg was a Bradley Beach lifeguard in his Youth and a graduate of Ohio State University whereas his life in the bur was to the best interest of the community and his family and whereas the burough Bradley Beach along with Mr rosenberg's family are blessed to have known him and been part of his life now therefore be resolved in recognition of Harvey rosenberg's many contributions to our burrow and its citizens the governing body of Bradley Beach to hereby express our deep appreciation for his dedication to the progress of this community and extend to this family our sincere sympathy upon his passing dated U 14 of February 2024 um Harvey's uh two children one lives in North Jersey and the other in Florida could not make it uh we're going to be formalizing the proclamation and I'll be sending um them a letter and uh get in contact with them when when the party passed because he was a very active Community member and he kind of was uh very sad but U harby lived the full life and their great service fory Beach so we all miss him and um hope he's having a good round of golf wherever he is yes and I didn't know Barbie was a LIF guard one time i' like to see that picture okay uh the next is a proclamation on uh Black History Month we're halfway into the month but we wanted to make sure we had that Proclamation uh read and I've asked Council that for us thank you mayor I'd be honed Bradley be the proclamation in honor of Black History Month 2024 whereas the mayor of Council of the burrow of Bradley Beach take pride in recognizing February 2024 as Black History Month celebrating the many notable contributions that people of African descent have made to the state and the county country and whereas African-Americans have played significant roles in the history of economic cultural spiritual and political development while working tirelessly to maintain and promote their culture and history and whereas since 1976 Black History Month was forly adopted to honor and affirm the importance of black history throughout our American experience which dates thousands of years and includes with the greatest most advanced and Innovative societies that we can all draw inspiration from and where as since 1976 every American president has designated February as Black History Month and endorsed a specific theme and whereas the theme for Black History Month 2024 focuses on African-Americans and the Arts and is infused with African Caribbean and black American lived experiences and whereas in the fields of Visual and Performing Arts literature fashion folklore language film music architecture C culinary and other forms of cultural expression the African-American influence has been Paramount and whereas because of their determinations hard work and perseverance African-Americans have made valuable and Lasting contribution to the country and state achieving exceptional success in all aspects of society including business education politics science Athletics and the Arts and whereas this observance presents a special opportunity to become more knowledgeable about black Heritage and to honor the many black leaders who have played a part in the progress of our community now therefore be it resolved the governing body of of the burrow of Bradley Beach do hereby Proclaim February 2024 as Black History Month in the burough of Bradley Beach dated this 14th day of February 2024 thank you Council uh glad we were able to get that before the middle of the month get that out there so appreciate it okay we'll go to the rest of presentations and bids we have two tonight and um they somewhat overlap uh a little bit of them um uh the bbca town survey and CME 2024 projects I think we have mat L here and I think Ed you're going to cover this presentation uh I think Paul is out of town and um we've worked in a collaberative manner as as many council members have said with bbca now for a few years I guess three years now is it three years or four can't four years four years um and uh I think this might be the second or third survey that the bbbc done uh they when they do those surveys they do come to us say that they think they can bring something to the table uh they help us we give them input and then they they really basically transact it oh see too um so um uh I'll just at this point be quiet and let uh Ed Andre take over technical capabilities first time here we're already impressed we've had a few foots we yeah you're hired not my first rodeo um first on behalf of the bbca thank you so much for having us and giving us the opportunity to speak on behalf of it um the materials that I've got here is a little bit dense but I'll do as quick as possible as we go through it so uh back in the uh fourth quarter in the October in the November time frame we condu survey through the burrow itself um and I'm going to share that with you here we had 175 respondents and that was a mixture of both the bbca that and and the mayor also had advertised this a little bit in his series of weekly notices we had 175 different respondents and you can see in the lower left hand corner of the materials that are up there that was a nice mixture of about 150 odd residents and then we had a series of businesses that responded as well and if you look at the type of demographics associated with the folks respond see a very nice mix of tenur uh folks in town you know either you know whatever it might have been it's not just near-term folks our question number three is around what was the top priority for the mission to be fulfilled in town itself and if you kind of read from the bottom up you know it's a mixture of appearance 30 odd responses out of the 105 responses were associated with the appearance of town I'm going to talk a lot about that as we walk through the materials here itself had some statements around leadership and taxes not part of the surve s inclusivity events and overgrowth and parking were a series of those types of responses that came out and I'm going to thread an awful lot of points on that as we go through question by the way this was a a a 26 question survey three of them were verbatim results and the other 23 were radio dial or button questions themselves and you'll see that come out in just a few moments question four was around how satisfied are you at Main Street the very dense slide here but I'll just quickly walk you through it right now good news is that 71% of our respondents were either very satisfied or satisfied you know with Main Street itself you can see that 70 of those responses that came out talked about the restaurants the businesses and the shops themselves delighted with those 25 called out Main Street and the walkability of Main Street the town the quess of the Town itself and 14 te specifically called out Ry Park I'm not going to read every one of these as we go through it but the key takeaways here were you know around you know the walkability of town itself we're not commercially overrun and on the right hand side you can see a couple of constructive verbatims if you will you know we still have un unsanitary and dirty papers in town we're going to talk a little bit more about as we go we don't want a cookie cut a t kind of town right we don't want overgrowth in the town itself as well so that's sort of some of the things that came out on that particular piece uh related to question number six what should the top improvements be relative to Main Street and you can see that in this particular case 61% of our respondents and anything that was high scoring over 50% I'll talk to you a little bit about more as we you know Wind Through the materials themselves 61% of our respondents said that the top priority for Main Street was around app appearance itself and you can see some of the verbatims here again I'm going to go a little bit more deeply into that but I would just call out um redesign of facades and things of that nature relative to parking maybe more parking on Main Street however no garage or an i sore for a garage on Main Street itself right and then you see other things that we'll talk about related to safety and Mobility questions number seven through 10 were all around beautification itself and you can see that the top responses in those areas themselves were around what do they think this isn't that we don't have it but it's high value things like cleanliness 86% of the respondents said cleanliness is important in t uh 54% of the respondents talk about disposal units and 11% of the U should 69% talk about trees and plants big theme that comes out across all of this is the respondents were really looking for a cohesive plan around what are we doing in town right you know what are we doing about beautification her appeal our streets I'll talk a little bit more about that as we wind through the material itself I'm from Brooklyn am I speed you know speaking too fast am I good that's not an excuse I just happen to go that fast right um hopefully you can all hear me well as well good uh diversity itself so you can see this as well 63% of the respondents talk about diversity is important I think the key takeaway here two key takeaways is that you know let's continue to br English and Spanish speaking uh community members together itself let's attract more diversity of businesses on Main Street if we can do that um and it's a very welcoming and we should spend time welcoming both newer residents and long-term residents related to diversity um on the appearance side of it uh high value in the areas of stores and windows and signage and high again 6% of the respondents on question number 14 talked about trash and recycling are important to the town of C I'm going to expand upon that you know very greatly on this next slide here so take a look at this this was our highest scoring response overall was around appearance fairly dense slide I'll let you read it yourself but what I would really call out again is create a cohesive plan for curb appeal uh preserve the town's charm and quess in town itself on the appearance side clean up the greenhouse itself right Greenhouse is a little bit rund down at the end of town what are we doing about that um lighting poles and the excessive wiring on the poles are a distraction and we need a uniformity of designs and poles we have about a 5050 mix in town I did a manual count of single lamp and double lamp poles in town itself and then I would just call out to your attention as well relative this is again in the area of appearance itself the things around amenities uh and and some of those also cited as you can see in green on this particular chart as well that beach appearance and summer points were came out in the theme not just on Main Street itself talked about the ability to we need to improve the beach umbrellas themselves we need to promote more dining outside that ties itself back to Main Street as people are at the beach as well safety that's not to say that we don't have a safe town at you cap on um you know but what they cited on this particular case is that you know we should be enforcing things like no riding on sidewalks we should be you know upgrading things associated with the crosswalks and hatches we've got problems in those areas themselves and you can see that 51% of our respondents thought that police presence was important very high value again it's not to say that that's not there as much as it is it's a high value to the community itself in the areas of service Associated that uh you can see very high scoring 68% of the respondents said that events in town are very important high value you can see that um on the other side one of the questions that we raised was around babysitting is babysitting something that's important to our respondents associated with it you can see it was the other way in so many words it was not the town's business to worry about that we should be able to care for our own children uh and then sort of a a mix of uh on the trolley side you know folks saying important maybe not as important let people fend for themselves associated with doing that and then on unification you can see you know again it came out a little bit on some of the statements that I made earlier that lamps and matching poles at 64% were important to the series of constituents that responded to the survey sidewalks and papers came back out again so I that leave us I'd like to just at least offer a few recommendations for your um again dense materials themselves but I would call out that a lot of this cobbles together into a very common theme you know which is you know what are we doing relative to the beautification and the enhancement of Main Street over the next couple of years things along the lines of tying together um the disposal units themselves how do we hide trash cans you know and make that a little bit um less uh visible if you will um things along the of um what are we doing about enforcing police um excuse me enforcing police to refrain from deciding on riding on sidewalks should we be in fact promoting a new bike safety program itself and so those are the series of recommendations that came forward um and and what I would add just sort of in closing for your consideration here you know whatever you do as a council you know going forward you know the belief is that you probably have a one to three year ahead of you relative to enhancing Main Street itself and if you took a look back at what I was suggesting to before around appearance and parking unification unification themselves there are things that we can do right now in the burrow that I think we are doing in the B and those things are around store signage um themselves and so can can we create a campaign relative to two weeks ago we heard from um Vin goal and and Arnold correct thank you around how we can in fact secure funds or the business can secure funds how do we promote that particular aspect of making sure that they're familiar with that that's one that we think that we can do right now striping parking spaces were of concern to folks I think striping as a as a an opportunity on Main Street has been discussed for a period of time I know I live on Second Avenue uh councilwoman I know you live on Third and the striping that took place there although it was objectionable to me for the first week that it was down you live with it you learn how to it actually promotes new spaces so you were one of those objectionable no I didn't I didn't publicly say that I just it deterred me I know you're kidding but you know it was an niort of start but after that it's not it's it's fact of the matter is is it created more for the town it was a change right uh but you can do that on Main Street and create better parking on Main Street itself so what kind of decision needs to be on that and then we're doing things within flight what I would draw your attention to though is from the papers on down through Street lamps and trees and beautification you know some four years ago the uh walkability study was done intact with ruers with ruers and others right and at that time it talked about how do we in fact enhance the pavers how do we do the poles and it came up with a series of recommendations fast forward to two years later you know when CME Associates came in and they did their own series of results to you as well and recommendations and what you see on this particular chart here is a summary of what they proposed two years ago those are old statistics this is draft only and what I would say is that excuse me one second let me just take a drink sure that's okay as opposed to looking at the the citizens of the community and or the businesses in regards to either raising taxes or assessing businesses themselves why don't we do something similar to what manisan did with regards to going out looking at Grants associated with what they did for upscaling their Main Street in central um in manisan itself how do we in fact go back to the New Jersey state commissions and secure funds associated with the beautification type projects that we need to do and working your way up from the bottom you need to make decision around what are you doing with papers or sidewalk itself how does that get funded everything else that's on the bottom of this list associated with trees and benches and recycles are all layers on top of that right and so the decision needs to be made around how do we in fact secure funding whether it's through those agencies and or other things in the budget within the next few years and so what we offer you here is just sort of a straw man of a plan that say say can you in fact secure funds start from your payers up again no taxes on the citizens for themselves no assessment on the businesses how do you secure funds associated with doing these types of improvements and then what can the community do in support of that and then I'm open to any questions that you might have from there first thanks this is great summary um I I just have just gotten down two things I want to um you mentioned the um the funding out of madisan and and for those who don't know mquan just recently got a couple million dollar Grant um it's actually the same grant that we applied for a couple of years ago as part of we did the new jerse director's I think it was do study that's right that was prior to my before my U before my time but the can't it was probably a 30 page comprehensive set of recommendations as you said that you know it had bump outs it had cross streets it was a very you know bike Lanes uh had a number of recommendations we actually made that same um application and I think there's I want to say the number is like many hundreds of towns apply and very few they they give a couple of year U so mquan was very successful now I I think madan's engineering firm if I'm not mistaken is CME so we should their brains it is um they did that we should work with them and see what they did what was the secret source that they had in regards to being able to put forth maybe a better application that we had in 2022 and and then my my next comment would be that um the the new mayor in M Mike maner he's um he's i' I've been speaking to him on um we both have some issues with our one of our ordinances that we're working through kind of jointly and trying to bouncing things off each other uh we can certainly get some time with him and um because prior to being the mayor he was Council there so he's got some experience on how theyve got this and we can also talk to CME um so uh those are a couple comments I uh any other Council want to comment yeah and this is great and great presentation I really appreciate this um quick question for CME I don't know how striping costs us nothing maybe can address that when he gets up because that does say nothing right start zero I don't know how that works but that's not on them C that might have been my error something so so something okay it would C something um I want to make a comment about trees though because I um I feel you know lots of unification on Main Street in general will be good whatever you're talking around benches benches or Garbage recycling bins or trees um as our ordinance stands right now like every just like homeowners in the rest of town they're responsible for the uh for the tree that's in the right of way okay and my feeling is because the town has sort of unofficially Taken control of those trees at least a couple times since I've been up here we basically paid the county to come and trim all the trees on Main Street and we didn't ask the store owners property owners for anything we just didn't I would like to make that official and let's just like say we're taking over the Main Street trees because if we're going for a unified look I don't think we're going to get there if there's 75 different property owners that are all responsible for making decisions about the tree that's in front of their property I would love it for the town to take that over and then we could make things like this happen a lot more easily uh you could extrapolate on that and say that's true for the whole the whole sh um I think the magic the whole sh do you mean meaning not if you did that for a Trea you could say oh well we're going to do you know whatever it's in that right way just technically I mean it's the responsibility I I wasn't sure you were talking about trees or or Ministry yeah well I want you know trees on Main Street for sure um and I've suggested that to the mayor um quite a while ago actually so I would love to see that with respect to cling this I don't I'm not surprised that people put that onet really high but I think we have to think about like okay people value that so highly when's the last time anybody ever you know like are people told by code enforcement or I don't know I don't think police but like you know there's a bunch of litter in front of your in front of your store on the sidewalk they you know have you cleaned that up I don't know that our code maybe they are but I just I would want to learn more about that because if people ranking it so high like let's have the town you know actually enforce that because nobody likes if you're walking down street you see a you bunch of the may I speak so thank you um clinginess was high value to that um what what came out within the survey itself is that we have a tremendous amount of uneven papers related to that cuml we have warped sidewalks and you know you're waffled all through and so and they're dirty right you know so so you need a unified plan you can't just look at one store and say I want you to clean up or fix your papers itself because someone might have a different series of papers there right I wasn't talking about papers I thought there was something about litter and no nothing on so is a high value it's important to do that in town make sure the town is clean the one thing that came out relative to that was around the bins themselves you know where they could be a little bit more um hidden or disguise if I can use that term more better just better but nothing specifically around there being a trash problem in town at all so I hope I didn't represent that at anyway okay well fin they're talking they be talking about litter I think it's more like a power washing thing where they want to see clean sign U one question uh I was curious I know this is a survey conducted of both businesses and residents yes do you have a rough split yeah earli earlier on it was 150 residents of the 175 that responded and so there were about uh 15 to 20 businesses you know some of those were a mixture of business and Resident so it was U 150 out of 175 were resident okay and so now hearing that it's a relatively small cut of businesses my followup question isn't a significant but I was curious if you saw differences between the weightings of these uh value items uh business versus resident answering your question directly no uh the data itself didn't lend itself to understanding how whether we're business or resident responded and broke it out that way so number one I should have said this first thank you because I think this is great and I know you're presenting but I know you've got a couple colleagues in the audience thank you to the bbca for pulling this off um you said something interesting I thought earlier that um kind of starts from the ground up you from the papers and so forth and I just want to plant a seed in your Collective brains that uh I'd like to look at it starting below the ground that up because uh I'm looking at Mr Shu in particular who for many years has been saying boy it' be great if we can get some of the overhead wires underground I don't know if we can do that I don't know what the cost would be I certainly don't know if we could do it without some tax implications for our residents and then it becomes how much you know how much can we ask of our residents outside whatever Grant fund is available but but I'd love that as you continue to explore recommendations and bring them to the council if you could expand your scope to to evaluate what you think could be done for segments or all of Main Street in terms of bringing wiring under ground part of the reason I say that is anyone that mentions it is going to tell you it's a million dollar a block or it's a million dollars for you know the east side and another million doll for the west side for one block but what they may not realize is at some point we're going to have to dig up all our sewers on me stre as far as I can tell we're going to have to replace sewers what better time to look at moving wires underground if if we RI open the sewer so if you if you continue this great work but even expand it a little bit I think that would be wonderful thank you thank you thank you well I just have one question sure I I would also Echo what council goosi said that when we say we're going to you say you're going to start from the papers up if we're going to have to redo the I think we need to include that in the in the plan and also um putting the wires underground but this is very useful but the one thing and I I talked to Paula gadin about this and maybe you can help me understand under appearance was trash and recycling and under beautification was disposal and when I I did I was one of the people who did the survey I got so I got really confused about the difference between those two can you explain the difference between appearance being trash and recycle Recycling and beautification being disposal because when I was answering those questions I I didn't I got lost then I was like I don't know what I'm answering um I'll be frank with you I didn't set up the survey itself oh okay how it was categorized initially um but I I think at at the end of the day it's still talking about the need to have a cohesive plan associated with you know what we're doing with um as I said before disguising uh trash in in t sou and then there's a little bit of a mix in there around you know keeping the sidewalks clean themselves uh and I hope I'm answering your question okay I because there were so few they were very pointed questions and I thought they were great questions I thought it was a great suring survey but then I said oh what am I was like what is disposal that but anyway good survey um I appreciate uh your answers and U seeing how everything broke down um but I just didn't know you with the difference between those two because I was confused but you know but thank you so one last uh statement and thank you as well um so is it that you will look to appoint leadership towards some of these or you know that that is our recommendation as well um you know which is how do you plan to sort of take that and then you know action some of that if you will on your own behalf not on the BBC's behalf but on your own behalf no where does that go over the next one to three years this is to the third time through it's a very good question um and and I actually think when we get done with the next presentation it's actually going to bring some of that together because the action piece of this is we work with our engineering firm and we work with the council to say okay here's what's possible I think it is to your point it's a one to threee plan that you but we need a plan we need a plan we need you know what's the funding and maybe the things that we try to get funding on we push out the things we can in the short term we bring in uh there's any any number of ways to cut a a plan like this a one threee plan um I think that's what we have to really kind of come back on and say how do we want to approach this um so I think after the I think CME I asked you to lead with that and do the second P second you may want to S listen to that because I think I think it's going to ductail and I think that will generate I think more conversation Among Us on how to approach this one question what was the name of the um entity that we applied to and that man end up getting who was that who's giving away that money it's the it's the state C you guys know I I don't know exactly which which funding sour but I can find out was the econom developmentor you appli for this was like a couple years ago for Main Street Grant we appli for a couple we find and we when they gave us the result when they turned us down um they basically I I'd have to go back to the it came from Jerry frea at the time I want to say there were there were over 100 tobs of the plot and I think like three or four got it so it's it's it's a pretty um tough one to get not to say we shouldn't be going after it every year uh we're taking any plan we get enhance what we have the plan from 3 four years ago I think what we're going to find is there a lot of still very oper just going to say I feel you should probably just apply yeah just just apply um on behalf of the bbca thank you for your time and thank you for your support yeah you going to stick around yeah good because I I think you need to hear can we just ask a question on this or do we have to wait till later wait till later specific for this so they'll be here till the end uh well they're going to be the next agenda item agenda questions so yeah than all right um yeah this is a workshop can't we have questions it's not a workshop it's a presentation of mayor may I ask one question I'm confused when we get to the individual resolutions will that be included in what's now coming up as the public comments um after the approval of minutes or will that will each resolution have its own public comment moment no we don't have public comments on resolutions we so if we have a question about public about the resolutions that would be addressed in the upcoming comments yeah okay thank you okay uh this is Ben matlak from CME he's been our Point guide for the last few years um and Ben's going to cover two things or yeah I have a couple of things to to cover um first one I'll I'll jump right into it uh improve streetcape improvements to Main Street U Ed thank you that was a great presentation uh and great uh lead up to uh to what what I plan to discuss um as we just heard about the uh dca's uh survey uh a lot of good information there uh some of the the main takeaways for me um and sorry I I was provided a copy of the survey early on so I I got some of the information from it uh a lot of the recommendations from the survey are similar to that 2020 record study uh it's called the uh Main Street walkable Community Workshop uh referred to as the RoR study that was funded through the new North Jersey Transportation Planning Authority which is an entity of the dot right um and the uh one one of the conclusions was that walkability and and uniformity of the streetcap is is important to the residents um so that that uh 2020 stud uh discussed that that very similar to the bbca study uh it was uh asking residents to provide input um the residents said that uh there were uh pedestrian and bike experience is inconsistent and underwhelming or unwelcoming uh and that's due to Miss Missing pedestrian Crossings low visibility of intersections and sidewalk quality um um these are important issues to Residents we have uneven sidewalk cers we have there have been uh accidents from in in the 2020 study I looked at the five years prior uh involving vehicle pedestrians and bikes there were 12 accidents on Main Street in that that 5year span um the study recommended bike lanes and pedestrian safety improvements um and then standardizing the street state very similar to to what Ed just discussed uh they're mismatched benches uh mismatched light Poes mismatched Street trees uh so so that's that's something that uh is something we want to consider uh for mry um what we first look at is the available RightWay you know you only have a limited amount of space to fit everything that that you want uh it's roughly about about the same size uh uniform Street north of Evergreen Avenue you have 70t right away south of Evergreen you have a 66t right away You're you have some minimum uh widths that you have to consider minimum required sidewalk here 4T uh and and considering the layout of Bradley Beach the fact that your your uh businesses restaurants are right up against the the RightWay line you really need a little bit wider than four getting in and out of stores and still allowing access along your sidew your minimum required if we want to add bike Lanes is is 5 ft where there's on street parking uh and then a minimum travel R now these are minimum standards uh obviously The Wider we can have the better minimum travel Lan on Route 71 is 11 ft um this is the existing condition uh this is again pulled right from that that record study uh you have 15t uh Lanes right now um up and down Main Street that is a travel for vehicles and it also it has showers painted on on the road showers are share the road symbols um allowing vehicles and uh bikes to share a l um we have Park parallel parking on both sides and then there is sidewalk as well as uh I'll call it a planter strip where we have trees benches bike racks uh trash cans that that kind of thing um on each side the record study uh looked at a couple design Alternatives um the first one was utilizing the existing uh patment with you have and modifying it to uh shrink the the travel Lanes from 15 ft down to 11 ft and taking that extra width and creating one uh bicycle lane uh in One Direction with with a buffler uh it maintains the existing parking Lanes uh and then it maintains the existing sidewalk second alternative they came up with was uh you removing a a parallel parking Lane and creating two uh up and down street um so either on the east or west side of main eliminated parking yes uh obviously parking is a a consideration and it's it's something that was important to Residents in this study as well as the dbca study so that's definitely something to consider U before making you know moving forward with any one uh option um some of the other uh things that were discussed in the rer study was were safety improvements um this is an example of a bus bul um creates kind of a safer uh M Block Crossing um it could house a bus shelter uh an area where people wait for the bus so they're not standing on the sidewalk and they're not in the in the travel BL and it allows an area for buses to pull in and and pick people up uh similarly uh curb extensions um this is a a way for um eliminating uh site visibility issues uh it it shortens your crosswalk distance so it's it's safer to to cross the street um and that that's one of the recommendations uh that that was discussed there as well with that first Al having one lane in One Direction you obviously don't want just to go one way on on Main Street you want to have options to go another way so what what they had originally looked at was the possibility of adding a bik lane on Hammond Avenue um as you know Hammond Avenue is one way so that would be in a oneway direction going Southbound with the oneway direction on Main Street going north and then there are a few streets cross streets that that could facilitate uh interconnectivity between those two oneway sections so you can get around town a little more easily then we look at uh the street scaping itself um as you you heard uniformity of the streetcape is important um revitalizing the streetcap uh is a way to establish uniformity within the burrow um you can you know say that this is the light hole we're going to use this is the the model bench that we're going to use going forward this is the type of trash can we're going to use going forward um the sidewalk shown there is just what was in the Ruckers uh conceptual study personally I kind of like the papers uh I Al although I do know that they there are some tripping uh hazards out there uh that's something that could be corrected by a a street skate project um conclusions um obviously we want to uh try to make the burrow more welcoming to pedestrian and bike users um we just talked about Street scaping beautification uh of the burrow by streetscaping you know it's it's a just creates a more attractive downtown area uh encourages t uh and and increases uh business uh and then safety upgrades where they're appropriate what was the last you said uh the the bus bulbs or curb extensions are safety uh upgrades uh also upgrading curb ramps to the Ada complying um and then eliminating eliminating those tripping hazards uh up updating the sidewalks uh these are all um safety upgrades The Next Step I think for the burrow is um if we want to advance this project we we look for we're we're continuing to look for funding sources uh of course and I'll get you an answer on on which grant that was that that Anon got so you didn't work on that yourself I did not work on that myself but you can find out but I will find out who did who did and everything there is to know about might be a that might be something to bring that person in with yourself and have conversation um we can prepare a preliminary Improvement plan that would incorporate some of these elements uh from from these studies and then investigate the feasibility of some of these uh these these recommendations um you know for example that that bike network uh investigate if if bike Lanes will are appropriate each one of those streets that was identified um I I know the sewers were mentioned that's uh as my understanding the I know the burough has a phase sewer plan uh the sewers on Main Street were phase six of the sewer yeah the last one yeah um so that is likely several years away um but you know obviously anything can be adjusted uh but that that's where that was in in that phasing um and Al you were kind of right on the money about a million dollars maybe $2 million a block for putting uh utilities underground uh this is you know what the the utility companies have told us in the past um so you know if you do all of Main Street you're talking into tens of millions of dollars range um for for that one uh and that's all I have on Main Street do want to have questions on that or before I move on yeah I think that'd be good because I well you got a couple more pieces but couple more pie I think we're good shaped your time yeah question so 88 compant curve BRS saying are none of them compant because I feel like we just since I've been sitting up here we just redid All The Curve ramps like not too long ago there there are some that there are definitely some that are Ada compli some of the newer ones uh that have been constructed are uh there are still I believe some old ones that out there that have not been upgraded yes just follow thank you uh I love this study the results of the study when it was done I I love seeing this a lot of the slides that you recapture for us tonight um the one thing I I mean I know I'm stating the obvious when I say this but I don't want to have you curve bump outs and bus bulbs and curve extensions and new cers or concrete whatever put in over the next 3 to five years or may saying one to three years and then four years from now we tear everything up to the sewers I mean we we got to stop doing really inting things like that so I know people will tell us any one of us you as our expert it's going to cost a million it's going to cost $2 million to move these lights on the ground say yeah all things equal starting where we are today you got to dig everything up you got to pull it all under the ground then you got to cover it all up my point is if it's going to cost $2 million how much is it going to cost if we ask you to do it while we've already ripped up the streets and I don't know that anyone is yet and I think you're the guy to do it yet I don't think anyone's asking that question so before I so I my question to you is we want a vision but but we want it like a phase Vision speaking for myself but I like to think others would agree with me a phase Vision that says let's assume we want to do all this stuff but we're not going to do it until we've done what we need to do with the sewers so maybe step number one is phase six sewers become space three I don't know maybe it means we start Main Street sewers the North End for two or three blocks one year then do the next year two or three blocks work your way South whatever but but I think we need a more comprehensive plan than just what I I love this but I kind of see this as the end result the end vision and would you be in a position to help us plan the phases wouldn't without moving wires underg ground we may ultimately say we can't do it one question I would have to build on that is if you took them say it's a million bucks a block can somebody profile that for us and say the million bucks is the following it's $400,000 of excavation $300,000 of taking wires down and $200,000 of whatever that could help us understand you know what's in that million dollars of lot and then you know to to the council's point I don't think we want to do something that we're doing to redo um I think we got to kind of the cost benefit you know what's the cost and what's the benefit U are there some is there low hanging fruit you know the idea of we see empty tree WS to me that's low hanging fruit um uniformity is low hanging fruit you know it's not going to cost us a significant amount then we get into the you know they keep question around what do we do with the with our sidewalks we need to do something whether it's repay pavers uh uh tweak what we have you know if you really take a hard look um if you're pretty tired and you're pretty beat up um so we'd have to look at that but I I think it's a matter of looking at the phasing and and really ensuring that we've got a plan the other is around funding if if the high ticket items we're going to really have to search for funding we don't want to fund this ourselves via bonding do we take the high ticket items and backload those in the context of um going out the rants that here's our plan the early phases where we're not spending a ton of money but on the back end we got some money to spend on the big ticket items um so I I I think that that that's a little bit but I got a couple of just bullet points here U did you want sure well one I I know you know this but for for the benefit of everybody here this is State Road so we've got to work with the state also which is always fun um there's a project that's been languishing on Memorial Drive Memorial Drive behind us way thank you is going to two lanes two and a half Lanes um meaning if you go to as the other side of 33 um Asbury Park you'll notice it's a 25 M hour kind of two lane but it has the center to turn things Memorial Drive is funed do that and it's going to do that ultimately uh there was a view early on when I first uh came into this uh job uh I met with that group uh with the county guys and a couple dot people The View was I was I was looking at from a parking perspective it goes to two lanes can I get on the Eastern side of Memorial Drive a set of parallel parking spaces maybe in the middle of town so people will park the car walk across the railroad tracks on each one of those blocks and um they're in town uh there's a lot of uh that's not a high priority for them I can tell you that it would be a fight but I think we could potentially get some parking out of that if if we could get that and trade it for one side of main parallel which I would think would be the West Side you know maybe there's a trade off there I don't know maybe maybe that's part of the plan we start really pounding um and working hard with the county guys with Mr Aron and those people um the Hammond option you know from my perspective the Hammond option on bikes is um I think it's a viable option but it's again it's a change and it's going to take a lot of change management um if we want to go to two bik Ls um you know you got to figure that out but that that's that's uh it's an interesting idea that I saw in the last study but getting bikers to really do that would be interesting if we could do that but when you really get the heavy duty green lines this is your bike lane you know maybe people tend to follow there probably a few people on H Avenue who would like to see that but you know maybe the greater good option I'm just not sure so that's a couple of just a couple of random thoughts I have I just ask one question Ben this is nothing new right this is this is pretty much the same thing that you presented to us I think you stood up here and present this but I know I got a yeah like a year and a half how long ago it was but it's the same thing right it yeah it was I gave a presentation to the council in 2022 uh and and you dollarize some things here yes uh the you saw kind of a rough breakdown of of our a cost estimate that was put together uh in 2022 uh I think at that time there was not going to be any any changes to the road no striping so I think that's why the dollar round was Zero but uh um yeah this this is kind of a a re re uh presentation of this work because I understand that it's the council's desire to advance a project on Main Street and you know want to just bring this to the Forefront and you know explore what the options are how to move forward with it so I guess my last question before maybe we turn it over to the the public Mr Mayor I don't know if' allow public com he has more to do then my last question is we're all going to sit here and say we all want this Vision articulated defined um we want to I imagine we need that in documentation form to to bring to grant funding opportunities right I mean you can't just go knock on door saying hey we're going to develop a plan we really need a plan correct to yes to some level of detail there has to be some kind of a plan which the two 2022 plan was a line item plan not 30 lines but it was 15 lines and it was I can't remember the amount was it a million three or something like that uh I think a million and a half 2 million something along those lines for for maybe half of the Town yeah but do we need to be talking not necessarily tonight but in the immediate future talking with C about updating that plan some giving us a tangible document that we that bring and updating that would include at least at least scoping um this notion of bringing wires underground and again we almost needed a and b with and without wires Underground and that would mean phasing not only for funding but phasing for construction I can't imagine you we were saying earli 1 to 3 years was probably you know one to five years you know like a 5ye plan so if we were to it's not official tonight but in the very near future we would ask you CME to build a plan I mean can we ask you to give us a financial proposal what that would cost to you as a fiveyear plan yeah thank you I I think most of what you had in that plan been correct and I just don't have in front of me just have is um yeah yeah yeah that's perfect thank you um yeah it's 18 line items but but what I was going to bring up and and this is helpful is it covers a lot of the things that were in the survey and it covers the the prior survey and it covers a lot of stuff that was in a RoR study um it's it's um some walkway stuff some construction some you know brick paper uh stuff some concrete sidewalk interspersed in there but Street uh Street trees street lights benches Planters trash recepticles it covers a lot of that so I think if we can get that inventory and say we've got everything we think to cover now now you start looking at cost benefit what are the things we can we can do as were uh applying for Grants and we can demonstrate some progress but also have a plan we're all locked in on I think that's I think that approach kind of gets us get some legs on this which is was a difficulty we had that would be my I have I have a question this this is a small question like so the bik lanes and I and I agree like people you know when you mentioned the accidents on Main Street awful and you know part of it I'm sure has to do with the sight lines one I would wonder whether the bip Lanes would exacerbate the accidents that we have on Main Street because people would just think I'm in a bike lane and I know bikers have R away just like just like cars do but because now we have lousy sight lines you know going to each you know each inch out to be able to see and the bikes are going to be coming and also what what benefit is it because you know then they go right into Ocean Grove which goes right into the bigger Road and then they go into Avon which doesn't have bike Lanes is it worth it to have a bike lane when you're got it for a mile there's a lot of there's a lot of energy at a county level getting bike Lanes all over the okay so like we would be kind of like the Paradigm yeah and ocean grow is working on this right now on Ocean ab and coming up L Terrace potentially that's kind of where theirs are it's just my concern we're going to have more accidents and is there a way to better improve the sight lines and so that you know we could keep what we have people could bike and people just aren't going to get hit by people coming coming out one one of the things that was talked about the RoR study is that New Jersey was one of the first states to adopt a complete streets program uh and M county has adopted the complete streets program several Counties have and several municipalities have um to do things like this to to kind of uh encourage multimodal trout travel um which is cars pedestrians bikes scooters um whatever uh so that it's it's in line with the the vision that the state has and the county has to do something like that yes and it's I'm not I'm not pushing you to say you have to do it this way or or doesn't work it's it's just it's worth exploring that option perhaps the best way is the way that already exists with the the share of the road uh the shs um but it's in order to to figure that out you have to explore what different options you can have and and what um you know the best fit would be for this road so so you said before and I just get into the right numbers right now the lanes are 15t driving Lanes yes and an option is to go to 11 which gives you 8 feet right corre um if you start playing with um using just one bike lane you you do the green heavy duty green where people realize this is a bike plane that opens up some possibilities now I'm not saying the other thing with 11 versus 15 ft is that a cing um mechanism car go slower and they've got less Lan uh so there's a couple of potential benefits that and I'm not a point it one way or the other right now just think about the possibility saying we've got x amount of real estate to deal with how do you manage that real estate um you know the idea of taking one side of the street and take when the parking you know people's heads will explode but uh maybe on the west side it's not so bad because how much parking is it how many spaces are on the west side when you take Riley Park when you take you know some of those businesses maybe it's not too bad maybe there is a possibility to figure that out I don't know we free up spaces in other ways so okay you have other stuff you want to cover I do yes just uh having a report have report that the B received a an asset activation Grant from the uh njeda which is the uh Economic Development Authority it's a $50,000 uh planning Grant uh it can be used for the predevelopment planning design and permitting to activate underutilized public assets that benefit their communities and the regional economy um so the the Grant application that was applied for was for this building uh 54 Ocean Avenue North uh it's right next to the playground uh on PR in between Parkplace Avenue and Ocean Avenue excuse me Ocean Park Avenue uh and the application was uh to use the building as a museum for for the Historical Society uh it would include also include the installation of a new restroom building uh next to the that building uh and then retrofitting the existing building uh as needed for the the intended use um we actually had have a meeting with the Eda next week just to discuss the um execution of a grant agreement and uh what the next steps are so this is in very early stages right now the the grant was just awarded um and uh that's that's what uh we have we're working on uh right now so you're meeting with Eda next week just to kind of get the ground rules to set with them on developing this plan okay correct yes who who all in that mean yourself and them or uh I I think it's it's me Meredith and the number from the okay I don't if there's any questions yet and you may or may not recall this but I just want to make sure for the record that you know that someone says this when the council uh approved the application process for the grant there was a good amount of discussion that we said it cannot be limited only to the Historical Society Museum that that and we were told count I think the the grant was like being submitted the next day or something so there really wasn't time to adjust the language in the Grant application but for the record I I just want to confirm we were told and I believe it's still true that um this money can be spent to look at different options for this bu not limited to the Historical Society museum is that fair is that correct yeah that's that's fair to say uh it's not we're not shoehorned into to one use of it uh it's just that that was uh one of the options that was talked about in the application um so that's what it's we're going to you know fors and so for for example so many folks I don't know what the answer is I'm not sitting here telling you the right answer is X but so many people have said they love to see bathrooms so many people have said they' love to see a more of a a retail concession like ice cream sales or something like that um something without cooking without without venting of of you know whatever grease traps and all that stuff um we had a problem a couple years back where there was at least interest by a restaurant to be cooking and building a second story on that building I mean there's it's got a little bit of a history as you're probably aware so I just I'm saying this to make sure you and working with our business administrator don't go too far down any one pigeon hold path and i' like to make sure that you know our options are preserved so we can consider a lot of Def Alternatives sure yeah um the like I said we're very early stage the the grant is is for the uh planning and and design and you know predevelopment plan so there's nothing that's been committed to at this point um it's you know the the grant money is here to uh come up with a plan and and how to reutilize this this asset that the B has great now it's very exciting and thank you for the role you played in helping us secure that funding yes is this a new grant program to deal with underutilized Municipal assets or has this been around for a while I believe it's been around for a couple of years uh this is actually the first time I've applied for it and actually kind of heard of it um there's a lot of grand programs out there uh but yeah it's it's I think it's relatively new and then so we we get a planning Grant and then so we spend $50,000 and decide it's going to be $300,000 to make this whatever we want it to be we get that same money from the we apply to Eda or we go someplace else I I think that the grant opportunity was just for the the planning of for the planning design getting it ready uh I don't know that the Eda has construction grants available through this same program but that's something that we would explore uh you know as part of the utilizing this to see where we could find available F then then do you know top of your head I do recall going through this with the prior restaurant application um there are very strict cap for limitations and if we want to expand the footprint of this building right and I I want to say you can expand West but not definitely not East and I don't think South either for that matter but again you don't have to educate us tonight but am I correct in understanding there are fairly limited things we can do to expand the footprint there there are obviously this is in a caer Zone uh and a cfra permit would be required uh and I did look up that you know a public restroom uh construction is permitted as a you can get a general permit uh under the capital rules for a public restroom um you know in a in a public park uh so I I think that that would would be something that would be permitted uh or permittable um so that that would be part of utilizing this grant to to go for that yeah right right now for those who don't go to that part of town we've been used since Co we've been I call it the airst stream it's the three bathroom silver kind of bullet that we put out right next to this building we've actually built in sord line we connected the S line to it uh we've been using that since Co really uh it will be see it on that Arrow oh you can right underneath the Red Square yeah so uh yeah there it is yeah yeah I see so um you know we we we've had we expanded our restrooms uh because of Co and um it would be nice to one of the ideas for that called the Airstream is uh we don't have any U restrooms in Riley park right now and if we could seasonally use the Airstream in Riley Park get it out of there because that's also kind of lays you know pies up some room might be for so that's something you know just a sidewalk uh if there are no other questions I just have a couple other quick uh updates for you um this is just for uh projects that we're working on that that uh the burrow can look forward to in the coming year um Lake Terrace Park uh that project is under construction it's probably about 80% done with construction the contractor is waiting on the uh uh final uh piece of equipment for the playground uh work that he's doing and uh that should be finished up uh sometime in March uh improvements to Parkplace Avenue that's utilizing uh Municipal Aid Grant from the dot uh that should start sometime in March as well uh that's a project being done by Fernandez construction and that work is from Main Street to Fletcher Lake Avenue uh improvements to Fifth Avenue that's a a DOT grant that we got last year um and that is in the design phase I I would anticipate that to be a summer project while school is is out um yeah that would be a good idea and uh the last one is uh Recreation Center improvements we have uh two grants for that actually one from uh the DCA and then one from mon County um the two one the M County one is a matching Grant the DCA is not a matching Grant the two Grant amounts total 339,000 uh and we uh are first step is to do some environmental work and then we have to do some uh the design of the improvements uh and we'll we'll work on that this year as well right for everybody's information we there's a we're going to actually go for a an additional Recreation Grant um and that's due on the 20 277th yes of February so um we're going to get a pass from um uh DCA DCA thank you I wasn't sure which one it was um to submit it on the 28th because we have a council meeting on the 28th and you have to get a resolution that approves us that gr but um yeah the application will be due on the 27th but the resolution can be submitted after yes so we're trying to kind of build a critical mass around this whole Recreation thing again could be some phases too we're getting X done then we right behind that we do y we really fix up that whole Recreation Area so just so people that's coming down pipe for two weeks from now U again a question because you're trigging my memory from that last discussion the daily application and so forth we at least talked about and I don't know I know we're asking for more money than we got so might have to cut back unless we get more Grant buet but we at least talked about the possibility of working in trees I want to say that for my Council col Mr Weber and Mr for that matter um we also talk there have been many residents that beat me up the time about pickle ball we talked about resurfacing courts and maybe having pickle ball that's there resurfacing and I want to just confirm we also talked about possibly uh at least if we have the funding to at least evaluate a dog party uh up where the greenhouse is that that was part of the discussion might not have been the formal application but just want to plant that seed that it's still in your mind I do remember that uh the improvements that we we uh included in the Grant application were in excess of the funding amount that we got so the dog park is was was not in the budget um but that that can still you know be applied for as part of phase two and and if there's fun you know money available that that could be something be I just want to keep it in everybody's L that we at least talked about some of those other activities thank you all right yes thank you a lot to think about okay we'll move to the um next oh yeah sorry next next agenda item is approval of minutes for the uh 12 uh January 24th 2024 counc uh I'll make a motion to approve second mrble yes Mr gesi yes M Mahoney yes Mr Weber yes may yes okay public comments for um pertaining to the 214 agenda any public comments [Music] yes thank um on the response rate at 175 do you know what the break out of that is um in terms of how many are actual bbca members versus those are not sorry but that's that's my question you said I have come up here yeah so that's my question we could we can get you that answer yeah we can get you that answer should we just get it tonight if it's if he perhaps has it I'm sure you can provide that if he hasn't but um I mean the question the question beyond that I mean it would be obviously very interesting to know what that number is but even with just 175 response my concern is that you're you're at best looking at possibly a 4% response rate to a town that all of a sudden the gears are starting to run run run let's go fix Main Street y y yada and nobody really said that that's what we all want I mean everybody wants a beautiful Main Street everybody thinks it should you know look like Mayberry but that might not fit into everything that we have or everything we need um Sim as we're talking you know I just feel like we're continually putting the car before the horse um and I appreciate Mr gto's you know heads up of you know asking well should we thinking about sewers or what what you know or the poles things of that nature that are let's get a vision um as well as also the bbca um I'm sorry my back I um you know who was in charge or who who decided on what the on what the questions were again I don't want it to be another situation where we're finding ourselves down the path after a church of hey this is a survey about a church we know what the answer is so let's get there quickly okay so I just think you know it's great to want to fix things it's great to want to have these you know but let's have concise Vision that includes everybody or really really um you know as a result of everybody it's not hard to get everybody to you know an easy access to a survey or something of that nature to get the answers we want to have that's all I'm asking in regards to that um but again that's also I'm not done than you I didn't were okay but then again that also again brings that little murkiness of the bbbc I can for one and you know and think I'm pretty well plugged into the town and our try to be um but it's still so many people don't know who they are what they are what is really their role here it seems to be very gray as to you know the signs say that you know when they they publish their EV it's you know with an alliance to the to the the town but is it really I mean is the town just automatically on board with their things to me it's a private entity that's mixing with a government entity and it's just very you know confusing um you know what I would think is a BBA is almost like a would would be more of a terms of okay you're not here to promote events but if you really want to support business or you want to build a business is here then you should almost be more like a small Better Business Bureau type thing for them you know come to us like this with grants and saying saying hey here's grants for this type of small business or here's how we can get things done for all of you business owners you know what can we do to make the business owners want to stay here and could make them more profitable not hey join my club like Costco and for that you're going to get 10% off at this place or you know you're going to have a discount here and just have private parts that's not what we as a small town need well I I would suggest that um the things you mentioned about getting grants and working with the businesses they are doing that they have been doing that um so I would suggest maybe you want to set up some time and fall at or or member questions I'm good I appreciate that um also in terms with and when if this planning comes to play like said we're talking about papers things of that nature please like maybe what mros is saying have a have a big picture of maybe you know as much as papers are nice concrete might be the way to go because inherently when you plant trees they're going to disturb papers papers like they said just like Ben said they're tripping hazards it's already a safety issue we're lucky we're not getting sued as a town for somebody falling or tripping on something so things of that nature really need to be looked upon on a greater scale if possible um in terms of the Lake Terrace Park I can't look at you been but maybe you whisper of my ear um what is the substrate going in there now I see that they for new new you know concrete colls but what what's going is it just going to be filled with mulch again which is there before or ask question question again I'm sorry with the Lake Terrace the substream what's going in where they they pour new concrete collars and what's underneath the existing equipment is mulch is it just going to be mulch again I think it is okay because I mean you look at places again like we we keep looking elsewhere everywhere else like you Belmar they have a fantastic beautiful um you know children's playground that you know has the the the rubber you know that that G it's the G it's you know children don't get hurt kids get spliters and things of that nature as we said before you know pets use that stuff why aren't we looking to do things like that we we are that's part of what we looked at the cost of that rubber was would have blown the grant out and we would have been just spending money on so so perhaps then that we need to when we do these projects we could do that and say hey this is what we want to do and we may have to have a phase two and plan for it yeah we did we did have public hearings and took through that that part that okay thank you thank you anybody else yes D 304 so I don't want to sound like sour grapes or J but um bbca is a nonprofit and there are other nonprofits in town like the bradle beach Education Foundation and I would just like to know if I wanted to do a presentation they get to do a presentation I contact ball and I get contact the B administrator and we would be able to do all the nonprofits right we can well presentation I would talk to I I don't know the answer that question but the bur administrator would know that yet I'm sure you can but I I don't want to say they just did so yeah they just did yeah they've done it before not I'm sure I'm sure that that compensation okay just makeing sure thank you yes okay your voice is pretty deep Jack okay yeah can um couple of quick things this survey less than 10% of the population how many people actually surveyed 4% 17% no those those those are those who responded 4% responded it went out on different mediums um it was how many went out I can't answer that question but it went to there was links all over the place it seems a little on the meager side to me I'm sorry it's to me it's meager it doesn't represent the population not enough people responded to this deal uh number one number two the uh no mention has been made to reducing the speed limit the first Beach block you're getting 25 mph all the way down to Ocean Avenue which is another 25 mph street that last first I happen to live there so I I I can observe that should be reduced to 15 M hour that last because somebody's going to get clobbered there some going get cled there badly the third the third thing is we don't we have a a huge U burn which covers the entire Beach from just about why can't we make a few more areas of distance within that bir so you store of what to make an opening within the ver so more people can get a view of the of the SE side of the ocean whatever now you could you could stockpile with sand you could stockpile the sand and then move it into into position if upcoming storm and we have you know tremendous forecast inabilities nowadays so anyway those are my the three thoughts on that thank you thanks a while [Music] yes hi Dr Tom mire 610 brle Avenue I didn't miss the first thing that I think out about the full her discussion my wife only was great um but I was just wondering why because I I was having Deja Buu back there but I was confirmed that the presentation that Ben just did was a year and a half ago and there's nothing different almost your comments were almost the same too with nothing different why weren't those Workshop items that and the um vbca recommendations presentation where we can talk about that more instead of this back and forth because there's obviously a lot of questions about that and about the project presentation because that was the exact same presentation and nothing has changed and there's no presentation of what we were doing would have been nice and like oh this is what we proposed to do not this is rocker study all Reba them and waste our time which I felt it was I'm sorry I wouldn't consider a waste of time I think we're doing the same exact thing we did a year and a half ago no I don't want to let you finish so it was a year and a half ago exactly practically and you got nothing new for this so why wasn't the presentation done where it was like okay these are options let's talk about this and have it as a workshop because what we're doing is we've set some 24 objectives one of them is to get really get serious about Main Street we've been talking about Main Street for a couple of years so we don't have to I don't think we have to recreate the wheel I think we have to say are these viable plans how do we face them how do we fund why we have that today so we had a survey done that affirmed uh that cost us nothing that size of the the U sample size was smaller but it's still I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm try to answer question we're paying for Ben I don't care we're paying for Ben my time is minutes we're paying for Ben I don't pay for them so we pay for Ben so his presentation to do it over again is a waste of time it's a waste of our resources thank you our time's not done so I I just want to make sure that next time he does come here can he please come with presentation and let us all know what are we going to do where are we going to move forward because if it's a year and a half when you said we want a one to threeyear plan that's already a year and a half so when when when we're not getting anywhere it's a great question that is a great question hopefully we will get the next steps we will have um opportunities for people to I I get that but it was again it was a year and a half come with a year and a half to make this presentation so I'm sure he could have come up with something he's he's a very smart guy he has great ideas but I understand why it wasn't coordinated with him so we can have a workshop so we can move it further because now his next presentation is what another six months another year and then we're finally going to move forward it's just slow and I listen I I'm not I do get to interrupt you you don't get to interrupt me this is public comment not mayor interrupt questions about the agenda is that com about theenda okay so let me com sure thank you okay just the win um so the other thing was about the the survey I would have loved to have questions about that and I I didn't miss the majority of it because I was driving here but um I obviously was a small SLE bbca member and I I don't remember getting it um and obviously it was just bbca members that did respond to the survey like do we know it was more them than you know everyone else out there so it could be slightly skewed because it's if they have meetings and there's 100 people there and out of those 180 of them they all talked about it where I don't know all that information it could be slightly skewed but the information is good I mean I want the town to be better I want the Main Street to be better I just wish it was more organic I just don't feel we need like someone to tell us what to do I mean I don't think anyone told cookman Avenue N Park what to do just happened you know like businesses started showing good businesses then another good business shows up and then another good business shows up and then they started doing the street Scapes so I just feel that if we make it more inviting to business owners and uh like someone said about the grants uh without have been great he said this is the grants I've looked at the grants from my fac so I know there's grants out there that would have been a great um addition if they could have because I know you coordinate things with them if they could have told us and presented this is what we can do not this is what we want you to do you know like how the town should do something but how they can offer these are the grants that are available because I know they're out there and I wish we would have just done that so just hope just the next time of have I I appreciate the fall and hero discussion my wife said it's great but if we can please have workshops I thought this is what we were going to do for this where we going to have every other meeting workshops and presentations this is just not ideal thank you yes Thomas J 612 Third Avenue um I wanted to thank Mr Mullan and Mr madlock for this presentation and because of that I'm going to repeat things that I've said in this room over the last six years okay uh because they do apply to this agenda first of all um I asked about striping on Main Street for delineated parking and I was told oh it's in progress we got to check with the state well that was a couple years ago nothing happened we recently had a auto fatality at Park Place avenue in Main Street I've always questioned the site triangles could we get the site triangles fixed at the same time now that we have a fatality um mayor you referenc low hanging fruit this is all low hanging fruit and there's no reason that these things couldn't have been done the last year and a half um we're in the process of choosing a bench which will be cleared through the bbbc and the council I've already been in here for that we're going to have a naming opportunity for those benches so that we can get this done with no taxpayer expense I'm going to say it again I was here in 1997 we approved the paper project my Building 401 main was charged $155,000 for the papers happy to say it came out great well that's a 40-year Improvement Mr Matlock can you know correct me if I'm wrong I expect to change these papers in 2037 and at that point in time I'll be happy to write another check to do it spring lak's papers were done approximately the same time their papers are fine okay El panties did an amazing job resetting theirs I've had stonan at my property three different times to repair mine if the code office asked me to repair them I will the code office needs to walk down the street take a little yellow spray can and say hey send a notice here you go you have these yellow Marks here you have 30 days to repair them it'll get done there's no reason for us to pay again for this the street lights are our problem because we didn't replace the broken street lights with matching street lights okay so the original street lights are very attractive I think that's the first grant you go after that's there there's been a major technology change in in the last 24 years on this so there's no reason that we should be able to do that let's pick something really nice let's pick nice down lighting that attractive to anybody we had to fight uh New Jersey DOT for the bike shows they need to be maintained um that operation does work we had to fight for the hatch crosswalks on Third and Second Avenue they operate every non signalized intersection on Main Street should be a hatch crosswalk and there's no signs you're any time you have a hatch crosswalk there's supposed to be a sign there people people don't know somebody turns to make a left the the guy from North Jersey behind them is in a hurry to get to the beach he goes to pass on the right and hits The Pedestrian it's a very nice lady died in Bricktown it's crossy guard at Curtis point with that very thin so we need the corresponding signs there's a crosswalk here um so those are just a few of the things I like to see the walk signs coordinated right now if you get to the crosswalk and you don't hit the button and some of the buttons don't work then it doesn't tell you to walk so now you walk and then the car turning says hey wait a minute you don't have a walk well I have the light I should be able to walk should be like Manhattan just let it turn on automatically so these are just a couple of the low um lwh hanging fruit that I think we can we can really take care of with very very little money it's it's maintenance and it's deferred maintenance that we haven't done so now we're going to spend three four million dollars a block there's no reason for it also in the Rucker study uh the the corner extensions and those things no one there was a big question of whether New Jersey do would approve that on the state highway so that has to be established before we even waste any time going oh wow we wish we could have that no no you may not be able to have it let's sit down with uh New Jersey DOT also there's a safe way I mean I park in front of UA to go to the senior's uh lunch in function I have a couple people in the car we open a tour there's a bench there they can't get out of the car I got to back the car up it doesn't function right so anyway the the benches need to be in the right place we have a great naming opportunity there's no more naming opportunity to beach for benches so we can get this done and there's no reason for us to spend tens of millions of dollars when we just had a 13% tax increase so I'm happy to volunteer anybody wants any help only been a you know landlord here on Main Street for 27 years but you know we're happy to help and it can all be done very simply and code office needs to step it up um the other thing I want to say about the garbage or the the the Clutter I bought Auto garbage cans eight years ago 12 they're all intact they operate perfectly and I want to say I've said this in this room every commercial operation on Main Street should have an identical garbage can when I walk Main Street on a Sunday night in the summer it's repulsive cuz everyone's got different garbage cans different stacks of piles no Tops on the cans it's a mess on a Sunday just have uniformity that's the uniformity that we really need and um I I want to thank everyone for this meeting tonight it's very helpful and I hope we got it out there to really get it done thank you hi my name is my name is Henry M 209 and um I guess I'm uh a little concerned about uh commercial property owners worrying about or demanding increases in the in their uh property uh when their property taxes went down last year um a lot of the properties went down $300 you really need to address your questions up here okay $300 on a minimum I look at some of these uh like Darcy was down 3 or 400 mine were up, 1500 and I think maybe you might have read a letter I might have or did you just throw it in the garbage I don't throw it in any letters did you read it because you didn't respond to it maybe you should resend it because I do respond to everything I get so maybe was lost I I did get a couple but my taxes went up about 1,500 and if you go across the board on Main Street they went down 300 500500 and it's been that way for a year and uh couple years and I noticed it this year was extremely bad and uh I called the tax assessment and he told me how it works and I told him I don't think it's correct two weeks later he called me back and he told me that we're changing it next year and it's not going to be based on what the fictitious rent could be on the property it's going to be based on the land value and then the assessment of the rent so let's figure out what that is do you have a new view of what the tax assessment is on the camp commercial or or residential because that's the first thing I would have done I would have said give me a pro ction or give me a view yeah because again my taxes went up, 1500 okay and across the board on Main Street it was down 300 to over a th000 for a property okay and then they're coming up here demanding street lights and garbage cans maybe you should pay they got to pay their fair share do you do you understand y okay and maybe go back in your mail Al thank you for responding and John go back into your mail and review it you said it's an email it was an email okay and it's very worth worth reading if you have it res send it just in case okay thank you okay okay thank you yes Beth Kepler 504 Central Avenue Beach um I'd like to address resolution um 2448 um it's my opinion that councilman gto's ongoing efforts to stop our taxpayer dollars from being embezzled by the expansive criminal Network embedded in our burrow is the reason that he is being so viciously and unjustly accused and attacked deception chaos and confusion lies at the root of the motives behind this pending complaint this mayor and his administration is intentionally creating division so as to direct attention away from their own criminality they wouldn't be doing this if if councilman gubat to's skill Professional Knowledge and expertise were not such a threat to their criminal agenda in the words of someone you may be familiar with mayor solinsky in his words accuse your opponent of what you are doing to create confusion and to inculcate voters against evidence of your own guilt pick the target freeze it personalize it and polarize it cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy go after people and not institutions people hurt faster this is very effective direct personalized criticism and ridicule Works moral principles are disposable fictions The end justifies the means for these reasons I support and ask this Council to vote Yes on this referendum to pay councilman D to's legal Fe as stated in the resolution and I personally I personally want to thank you councilman for standing in the gap for not backing down and I want to extend and I don't even I can't even imagine what your family your wife must be feeling not ever having had a face-to-face conversation with you I can't even fathom you being guilty of the things that you were being accused of in this complaint and I hope that you more just for us but for your family defend this vigorously and we the people of Bradley Beach stand behind you and we support you and we well I'm not going to say that but the other thing that I would like to say it's very interesting that this big long um very professionally well produced um slideshow and presentation that we just went through with the bbca was based on 175 residents and it's a multi-million dollar decision at least a million dollar decision but yet umare characterized publicly in a newspaper and marginalized 250 residents of this town who signed a petition and characterized it as bogus and it's not bogus because I wrote the letter I read it on the record and I sent it return receipt request the certified mail to the Attorney General's office and to judge English and I've still not received an answer and I have the certified receipt that it was received so it was it's not bogus mayor and it's interesting how excuse me it's excuse me EXC it's interesting how 250 residents okay were able to be marginalized and described as bogus while another 175 are being given weight and we're putting And discussing putting two what hundred like a million dollars into a project when we are in the position right now where we haven't even seen the audit from 2022 that's my tax dollars that you're spending you kind of veered off no I'm addressing no no I have not veered no I'm addressing the bbca and 175 people who we just listened to would outline extensively for an hour for the second time the same information but 250 people who signed a letter stating how we need an investigation 6 months ago back in July and it's only compounded the argument has only gotten stronger with time because you continuously and your Administration continuously to perpetuate criminality thank you um you're welcome I just I guess for the minut I don't know i' rather use the word bogus in any comments or it's in the newspaper I'll forward it to you yeah okay any other questions okay if there's no other questions we will go to a couple people on sorry we have a couple on Zoom there um Don's iPhone Don are you there yes I am there we go okay thank you joh greenber 302 Parkplace a um one just housekeeping item if you're going to do PowerPoint presentations it would be nice if they would be shared on the zoom that technology is capable on Zoom because all I'm looking at is like a window you know that shows me the TV screen on the wall I really can't see the PowerPoint so if you could share them going forward on the PowerPoint presentation you know I see pictures of Al and the mayor and everybody else but I don't actually see the PowerPoint presentation yeah I I could be wrong about this U Mr Reber but I think the way that they took over the presentations and ran them out of there might have taken it out of Zoom so you raise a good point because I think prior to this it was run by Michelle you could see it because it was on Zoom so it's good we haven't pass you're right we haven't been able so it's good input cuz I didn't even think about that so we'll we'll make that adjustment thank you thank you sir appreciate it uh and in terms of the presentations I love the idea of bike Lanes in some fashion or another um especially in the summer there's a lot of people cycling and uh I do agree that the sight lines are terrible anybody's everever tried to make a left from Park Place onto Main Street uh you take your life in your hands uh so I think that's something that needs to be worked on sooner rather than later and in terms of enforcing by rules like people riding on the sidewalk and my own pet peeve which I brought up before is if we can get the local PD to enforce the ban against riding the wrong way against traffic uh I remember the last time I brought up a couple years ago the chief said well nobody's been killed yet so but I don't think that's the bar we should use I think we should be proactive in enforcing the riding with traffic on your bicycle and if you know maybe we could have a Bike Rodeo I don't know if you've ever had one but you know a little a little safety education I'd be happy to volunteer to help out yeah we have we have done that but I think they're planing on one this summer yeah yeah and if you need the help I'll be happy to help with that thank you all right that's all I got okay thank you thank you very much um I shushus yes hi can you you hear me yeah okay thank you I mean shus 1124 Avenue um I found this a very interesting uh meeting regarding Main Street my question is whether or not the burrow has any intention of holding the U building owners um to bring their buildings up to code we do that on an ongoing basis well there have been so many buildings that have been uh in violation and I can think of several since 2017 and nothing has been done and I just think that some of these are they're very apparent and um and I think that the residents deserve a better um um support from code enforcement to make sure the landlords the building owners are doing their part to make our town better uh another thing is now I apologize because I don't have the technical name that you used but I'm going to describe them as Port aties I feel as though the residents of Bradley Beach deserve something better than Porta parties uh I know they're on Ocean Avenue you're talking about having this whole s this whole meeting about vcation of Main Street and if you're going to transfer those up to Riley park that is going to be an isore and a step backwards that's my opinion and I thank you for my okay having my time thank you thank you no there's one more uh iPhone for Linda hi good evening um Linda duy 312 Bley Avenue I'd like to thank alosi for bringing up uh creating a master plan because we need to look forward and do things in succession that will benefit the town so I'd like to say that I have been watching the uh renovation of the Lake Terrace Park and because it basically is a toddler park it has never been gated I was wondering if there's going to be any Gates installed so parents don't have to pull their hair out running after toddlers here and there there has never been a gate there it needs to be a gated Park like it is on Ocean Avenue does anybody have any um feelings about that yeah I think it is yeah Ben you can cover Ben's here I'm pretty sure it's yeah there going to Beed as part of right yes on both sides between the grassy area and the street that uh run alongside it yeah the the two corners the one uh at the corner of Lake Terrace and forget that other side street uh and then the opposite corner um where it's just the the open opening in the fence uh two gates are going to Bea I thank you for your foresight in doing that also I'd like to say I'd like to talk about Don greenbergs um responds to the uh riding the wrong way down the oneway streets bicyclists habitually run the wrong way uh ride their bikes the wrong way on streets this needs to be addressed and the police department needs start giving out warnings so maybe people will get the hint that you shouldn't be doing that before something else happens and we don't need to hold the bar so high as no one's gotten killed yet so I think that's proactive also the site triangles on most of our streets are not within the state's code which I think the town can adjust it to whatever they want but maybe we should revisit that and I appreciate your time and thank you good night thank you thank you okay uh we'll go to the next agenda item which is uh ordinances there are none so that was quick uh number 11 Communications pardon me May um do you have communication about that's the oh I'm sorry I thought you missed it my bad number 11 okay here we go question um I'm going to actually be extremely brief on this because um Mr matl covered it um all I want to just reiterate and I think Paul left was um as it relates to the I will I will cover this in a little bit of a different angle um I said earlier when I started tonight about Bazi and um we have made some really good improvements in the Bazi um building and you know for a marginal cost and we created a lot more space than we had there before um however we still want to um we still have conflicting or competing uh entities there seniors uh Meals on Wheels Community Development uh the historical society and um I think you know I've had a few conversations with the Historical Society I I met with him again on Monday just give him a grand status but I had met with that group in October and again I think it was Monday um we did pass a resolution in November to move forward with the grant we got the grant which is great now I think um we're trying to figure out and and we're going to do it with this historical society you know is there a onew punch um we we one of the things that people aren't aware of in the Bazi Center a lot of people aren't aware that um we just expanded and created a storage room on the north side of Bazi that's about 630 square feet that could be expanded even more um with a couple of little tweaks uh it's been painted put a floor down and it looks like it's a ready office space and we're we're contemplating could we have a part of the Historical Society kind of headquartered there for archiving kind of an office thing and then the prominade becomes that exhibit Museum and some combination or iteration so my point on this Grant and and really the work we're doing on Bazi is we're trying to deal with conflicting or competing um uh Assets in and trying to fit all the activities in town in all these places in a comfortable way those who have been in Bazi and looked at the Historical stuff and Paul if you were here agree with me you know we've got cabinets and last cases that aren't the most effective in fishing there ways we can do things differently so we're going to be looking at that um in the coming weeks and months in parallel to looking at you know this this study and and also for the long term what's the best uh fit out so uh that's really that's probably more important to cover because the grant um then covered it very well and uh I was going to cover it but when he covered it up front that was fine so we're all aware of the Grant and we'll be working on that 4 back to everybody on so that's the point on that communication um resolutions we have a few resolutions um most times in this meeting this the second is the first sorry first meeting month we W have resolutions are you this month this meeting we have to do um the first resolution is 22446 thank you guys authorizing to provide the issu a s 11 58500 has the anticipation notes of the B Bradley Beach in the county of M state of New Jersey to the m County Improvement Authority determ various matters of connection we in uh I will make a motion to Mr discussion y um I'm confused you did send us a schedule I had asked for supporting that number but you had a different number 9 milon 780 I'm not sure I understood the DAT yeah the the the so the 11580 it would be the I cot when we went out and looked at the band the bond anticipation notes um we've been able to refine that down this would be the the high end of we went out and felt this overed but I think we're going to end up with with a lesser number that we have to actually go out and get the the notes I think it's in March U so it's been really a refinement between uh the bond attorney uh or CFO and I'm sorry though I'm really not trying to be difficult you know the original question was why this specific amount 11 mil 580 that that was the start Point uh probably three or four weeks ago and they've been able to to take that down to a lesser number this it won't exceed this number 5 to be clear about that but the new number that they provided you provided to us just a day or so ago was 9 million 780 98 9.8 yeah so almost $2 million less I guess the obvious question is should we and I I I did have a question about even that detail there were there were a number of U adjustments down is that because we're I assume it's because we're sharing some of that bonding with no that's not like 3.5 million but we droing 1.5 million yeah what's happening there um I think it's a timing issue that we're not going to need as much um initially for 2020 we wi 2025 and these smaller ones similar yeah just time um so the recommendation and I checked this today with the CFO the recommendation was was that this was the highend we believe we can commended that's 9.78 number but the recommendation was to stay stay with the resolution as is um and shoot for this lower number that it's full10 million million um can you help us or help me understand the process if we were to approve number almost $2 million higher how do we make sure we don't actually bond for that like how does that process work do we ask for bids up to 11 million but then we only take what we need I think with the bond Council and the CFO would do is as as they're procuring those um they report back to us if you want us to report back on what the final number is that's not a problem at all because he's he's got a pretty good handle on with the bond attorney Ministry not not not reporting back on you know what fin is it's understanding the final number before we approve it um I'm just looking at the resolution language itself which I want to get to the therefor um the Chief Financial Officer is hereby authorized to cause all or a portion of its Bond anticipation notes to be is should and sold I'm reading this not only for my benefit but for anyone in the public who might be interested um the B hereby authorizes the use of certain information concerning okay a portion of the proceeds of the sale of program notes to the mcia may be retained by the mcia as payment to the Bur out share of issuance expenses and expenses related to the county guarantee yeah we're going to the m County that that got us a favorable rate what is the rate I don't have a and unfortunately um Meredith and the CFO and um Megan work through this so I don't know what the final can Mr Mayor what what's the urgency of this like can we table this until the next meeting to get they I think there's that they want to get this in with the county u i mean we can clarify these questions a mer will be in tomorrow can clarify those questions condition I meet with her her and Ricky together that will be fine unfortunately I thought mer could be here to represent this flights got a little SC I guess section one gives the flexibility I'm looking for but I in terms of what we would approve saying the Chief Financial Officer hereby authorized to cause all or a portion of its Bond anticipation Nots to be issued uh I appreciate that flexibility what I concerned about is controlling that flexibility that if the most recent estimate you have is 9.8 million and we're authorizing 11.6 that extra 1. milon just concerns me because I don't know what backend control the council would have over the additional borrowing of that that funding I I would suggest that what what they're working through is trying to get the lower rate lower number um this was what the start point was if you're looking for the Delta of those two the 118 versus the the 98 versus the 116 a a um a flag that says we go over that the number that 9.8 I don't think that's a problem at all but I I think that can be very proactively communicated but the intent is not to hopefully not have any issues we have to go up well we certainly I mean I'll speak again for myself I certainly don't want to um impede the burrow in terms of borrowing money that we need but I also I can't see uh granting kind of blind authorization of 1.8 million that we don't have any any explanation for you know why that number might be needed so can we alter this to at least I would ask can we alter this to approve the 9.8 million uh and then if another 1.8 million is needed at a later date Mr may could come back and expand this at that time all I can tell you is that the recommendation by the CFO today was leave the resolution as is and we're going to try to manage this we lower number the 9.8 I don't know if that's creating some kind of constraint for the bond attorney and the CFO again I think they can explain that it's unfortunate that we just have an absence tonight that would be able to explain that because work at detail level with these isn't it right to say there's no new borrowing in this this is all like restructuring kind of refinancing of existing no is it's detail what this is so can we just change the number at the top of this to to 9.8 million I just said doc foreal I think you just change the number the mcia it's here that means the MC said so it may tie to the mcia that they one there we started working with them in the fourth qu Mr Kon if we authorize borrowing of this money that says all all are some right it's not the wording is not authorization it's an authorization but how do we how do we the council stop an extra $2 million of borrowing that we've authorized if we don't you know right now we don't know what that extra 1.8 million might be and and you're asking not you but we're being asked to authorize this borrowing not knowing what the money might be for I mean how does that work in reality do we well I mean it's an authorization so um when it comes up to be spent there's a certification of funds that says it's available the line where this authorization goes the money so technical answer your question I'm sure it's a very practical one is that you then you can get the to spending you just don't spend the money when it comes out why is there extra money is it for emergencies or just we started this in the fourth quarter what's happened since the fourth quarter first you went at and Megan Bennett got us a favorable rate um with the mon County group what's happened since then is they've been working time try to refine what we actually go out and spend so to to the attorney point it very well could be a pre-authorization amount that that's what we committed to but that doesn't mean that's what we have to uh necessarily borrow Hera and I think that's probably why the CFO said you know we really need to stick to that number but we are going to we have a high probability of going coming in at 9.8 million so so I think this is not a high risk approval the the underlying documents this CFO obviously has the got he or she he point right he he's the one who got the approval through the mcia so I mean it's in there um the reason I say I you to change it is because this is a PO it's pooled right the mcia is a pulled um it's a pool funding it's a funding pool footage so they have it all allocated they go out for a certain amount and improve all that so I'm not sure you can just change it and send it into them okay Mr Canon let me ask you in simple resident terms is this someone like a I would call it a HELOC where you're authorizing your ability to borrow up to this amount but you said we can control it by managing the spend associated with this if I don't need that money that I get approval for my hey lot on the Bank home equity loan um I'm getting approved by the bank in this case we're doing the approving but I get approved by the bank for half a million dollars on my on home equity I only spend 380 or am I getting the loan for the full 500 do you know what are we paying are we paying interest on 11 million you shouldn't be until you spent until you spend it so if you don't spend it you're not paying interest on it you should Bond council's fees based on Ty I feel like they based on the I'm not entirely sure of the mechanisms in that regard I mean if these are really God's Hest these are really C questions or the administrator work with the CFO and if we don't approve this then we jeopardized our ability Department cares I'm feeling a little blackmailed into voting for this well I think you know again um the CFO and the B administrator have that level of detail they have worked the bond Council does not dictate um anything we can provide her what we want uh and you can see the detail that we provided to y'all on Monday was General Capital sewer Capital Beach Capital um no that was very helpful I appreciated that butting total 9.8 million right and I I guess the subsequent question had that question come up with the difference we could have answer I could have had uh the CFO contact you on that he was clear with me though that U we needed I asked the question do we need to go with the lower number and he said no need to go with the five because we been able to take this down to 9 so I think it does have to do with pre-authorization from the from the C group that that's who we worked with because they gave us the most fav um okay so I thought when we shut up tonight after you shared that detail we would be I thought we were going to change the star amount which I now I supp we can't so Mr Mar when you said you know had we asked I thought you gave us the detail we're changing it I guess my question now is uh can you just commit to the council that the CFO and the VA will explain this very thoroughly to us within a week absolutely probably within a day helpful to just have had the explanation before we asked to vote on okay okay um any other comments questions so motion to approve 2024 46 that a second second Mr no when I borrow money the first thing I asked is what what the rate and I'm not getting the answer and I just don't feel comfortable with this I just can't say yes so I'm going to say no Mr gzi it's not fair that Miss council president then open gets to go first I know so the rest of us are in a much tighter bind here I totally agree with you council president um I'd like to know the rate I'd like to know why the extra 1.8 million um only because I appreciate the need to borrow at least 9.8 million uh and I've being told very clearly that I jeopardize all of the borrowing if I if I vote no with you I U I'm going to vote Yes Miss Mahoney I'm going assume that the uh that it's it's built in and it's it it's old and I'm also going to assume that the rate is based on the higher number and I'm hoping that my assumptions are correct I also feel like we probably have to do this so I'm going to V yes and expect an answer I assume that Ricky can give me Mr Gs can give me an answer tomorrow y so I'm going to expect that and I also think that it'll be easy to track this $2 million so I'm GNA vote Yes Mr Weber uh I also going to vote Yes because I'm confident that we're going to hear from the B of officials as we have been promised and get the information we need so yes mayor pause yes uh 2024 47 requesting commission for the Declaration by writer Fallen Euro trust fund to accept the requests legacies and mj4 5-29 order to honor the deceased vs of B gra Beach question just means that we're just creating a trust fund addition to the many trust funds John that also helps us segregate dollar ta I'll second Mr Noble yes Mr G yes M Mone yes Mr Weber yes mayor Fox yes oh I'm sorry um 2024 48 authorizing retention of LLC hrey versus Bradley Beach Mr i' like to make a motion to approve resolution 2024488915 Collins Esquire King thank you Collins represent B Council in the matter Fox superco number 15953 quick comment Mr Mayor just for the residents um knowledge uh this is basically appointing an attorney to defend the burrow in the mayor's lawsuit uh who would be replacing Mr Canon who has recused himself from that litigation so just want to make sure everyone understands what we're voting on um I'll make that motion to read this you just say okay I'll make the motion to approve 202 2449 second Mr Noble yes Mr gzi yes M Mahoney yes Mr Weber yes mayor Fox yes oh I'm sorry upate uh okay there's no announcements uh public comments uh public comments public comments yes the green black 44 Avenue I have um three questions um the first two are for Mr Cannon and then the third one is for um mayor Fox and I'd like to actually just um read the questions before anyone answers um my first question um M DeMarco indicated that the Employment Services of Mr faac for work in August and September of 2023 was paid in January of 2024 when questioned she explained that Mr farach had requested that he be paid in the 2024 calendar year from a budget persp active this is problematic the $26,000 consultancy fee for ba ba Services places a burden on this current Year and may well be a cause of confusion in projecting future budgets and look back is it legal for the municipality to manipulate the timeline of payment for employment services for the sake of tax year imp implications uh the second question given that the former ba Kim Humphrey has filed a laws against the burrow is it in the interest of Bradley Beach to continue to maintain her Services of purchasing agent as a hold over uh is the burrow required to have a qpa and my third question which is for uh uh mayor Fox what is the status of 319 Lorraine please provide an update on the RFP reference one month ago so if I can ask Mr kenon those questions first sure so response to question um I know you're talking about budgets I don't and I don't know which way it is sitting here um but for example those funds were encumbered in 2023 they may very well they paid the first month of 2024 they very well may be part of the 2023 budget um because you can do that you can take those 2023 budgets and spend them in 24 but allocate them appropriately that was your first concern as to the budget second concern as to the timing of the payment um that the municipality is permitted um so we can always pay people later we cannot prepay people for things that they didn't do yet right you have to sign a payment certification for the services of goods or provider the good um so that is acceptable I give you other examples there uh when highly paid employees retire with significant six pay payouts the town often enters into agreements with those type of employees to pay over time it helps the employee from a tax perspective it helps the bur from a budgeting perspective so that both those things are permissible um and I'm not sure that your assumption because it's paid in 24 it's not part of the 23 budget although I don't know what it is sitting here right now they can be encumbered and invad for Budget purp so neither of those things so there's no concern or liability that um um that the um the payments for employment services are actually manipulated in order for um and it was at the request of the individual not to uh be encumbered by that um that salary in that calendar year it's okay for a municipal um entity to actually make those changes yes we we can't do is pay them earlier for to help them out I always pay people later if it both parties Mr Green just to follow up on what you just said I think what is likely we don't know though that this have it's likely it was encumbered in 2023 but it wasn't paid until 24 if it's encumbered in 23 if it's accounting is done correctly then the expense if you will will be recognized in 23 it's more like we set up a liability the encumbrance then when we paid in 24 you know you just basically credit cash and debit that liability so the expense would if it wasn't covered in 23 the expense would hit 23 okay thank you and then my second question was um with regard to the lawsuit by Kim H against the Bor and the fact that she uh still being paid by Bradley Beach um as a qpa in hold over this year yeah that's a difficult question in a labor case I'm I'm going I'll just say this it can cut both ways right um but I really don't want to give a legal opinion on that depending would we have no com on that right now I mean but is is it in our okay so here's the other question the other question is does the bur is the bur required to have a qpa is that a requirement it's not a legal requirement it's not a legal requirement but it saves US money well it's not it's saving us money when we're paying for the services with the same individual who suing the burrow I'm not quite sure about that I think that's a matter of interpretation so my next question is about the status of 319 line I'd like to know what developments have occurred we are in the process of developing those arties that's not really an answer um um you know that's it's not an answer can you provide some information to the community about what exactly is in the RFP what are the plans what is the vision the rfps will be they'll be public and we're working with the land board to get those completed so there's no interest in involving the community and knowing how this property is going forward and the timeline I mean I had asked the question a month ago and two weeks ago yes no it was a month ago um when I was here 24th yeah 24th distribute schol yeah we're working on it we're working on it okay I mean I can we look forward to some sort of a presentation about what is the timeline what's going forward with this property it's been sitting and sitting and sitting I'm aware it's been sitting sitting and sitting and I've been pushing it more than anybody else uh I'll be pushing it more than anybody else so I can tell you when we have that we okay I I'd like some sense of when that might be okay thank you M green on that note just for the record again the council has no idea of any updates on these rfps so when the mayor when you ask the mayor to share this with the public hopefully the council had an opportunity to provide inut by that point as well but as we sit here we the council knows nothing about right I appreciate that so the community should truly understand that you know to to bump into a council person on the street and start rattling off and asking questions and maybe complaining that really the question should go to Mayor and um the municipality really thank you thank you yes cat Nancy meow Ocean Park Condominiums um I'm just requesting the four council members you just need to legislate every little thing that goes on here more importantly every little thing that doesn't go on here and every protocol that would be standard and what I would consider to out in the municipality would really be considered a small business so my things ition most of this before the rec sign nothing posted since June that's unacceptable to me I brought up what I found to be an offensive caution tape around the window in the burrow Hall foyer months ago well not months ago Monday after Thanksgiving is when I noticed it so the meeting there that's still there website has the next meeting for this chamber this group 228 from 8:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. that's pretty unacceptable to me for somebody who wants to cut meeting short this is all indications of people that don't do their jobs and people who don't do their jobs take their instructions from management and that's what pisses me off and here we go since August 2022 I've tried to find out from this body and others what Financial and guidance we received and are requested from the county state federal governments as well as our supportive staffs or subcontractors how You' like to call them I received no answers just dead silence we all tend to know what that means so then I decided to the topic you didn't State what topic you were looking for oh paron hi sorry thank youor no thank you for pointing that out just assume that everybody's heard and is sick to death over it so I decided to put it in writing I've now sent three letters and I've gotten three responses and this is what I've learned and I want the record to know this we are the soulle payer we floated a bond for $1 million for a portion of the payment we are not in possession of any records any requests and the reason is because we didn't seek any now the last statement comes from a letter from our attorney because this was sent on as an over request which I didn't do and now our over attorning I've just learned is also our labor negotiator labor attorney and he informed me that's not the case oh well whoever this is not to cut you off d works for the he with the same firm but it's not it's not the same well the firm okay here's the letter get this on Zoom got this get the letter head there right you he's pointed out that I have repeatedly asked yes I have good that he knows that because all they would have taken is someone in this meeting to say we didn't ask for any help and the bottom line is he considers this a closed matter it is not because in every letter I sent was always why so here it is we didn't ask for help $1 million why and may I say that all of these outflow pipes are all falling apart so are we going to have a protocol to what do we do when there's a problem are there steps we should take should we contact risk management eaches all belong to state of New Jersey it is State problem I okay so I now need to and they're going to bill us because we know that this firm does nothing about us so I now need to reply with it's not a closed matter because you did not answer my final question really is this the way an effective business runs I don't understand it I don't understand this whole Workshop thing with presentations from departments it's my my understanding the only department head that is required to make a presentation is the police department that is in his contract it's to be monthly I observed it two months in all these years that I've been coming here um I resent to have these other people who are not paid to do it to wait to have to spend their own time coming here or our support Personnel in those departments are they going to get comped and may I say also regarding I forgot this is Clincher the letter from um The Firm of Eric Bernstein Associates it is my understanding Mr Demarco is our acting business administrator um he emailed her burrow administrator so that attention to detail is another person that is not serving us well thank you yes I uh I want to follow up the last meeting I asked about the house that was on Fourth Avenue house that was on Fourth Avenue that they were they had they were building a side wraparound top deck and I was told it was going to go to the land use but I found out that the homeowners had to retain their own lawyer so I mean I don't know anything about the Construction office I I'll admit that but I I just am thinking logically because I'm a human being that would think logically why couldn't the Construction office just the approval why can't the why couldn't the or zoning why couldn't they just resin the approval rather than they have lwuit from the other side so it's really one way or the other so if the B fake in a zoning situation you're caught in the middle your own lawyer and they can then sue the borrow for those costs I well if you're the applicant right and you have a valid issue to approv sended you have claim if you're an ejector and you don't believe the approval was issued validly you have a claim so once you get into that situation it's really a KN situation for the car one way or another you you can flip a coin do it either way it's not going to be good so this is similar to what happened on Evergreen the J and similar in the sense that they in the same legal yeah the rubric I just described to you was the same yeah are going to be upset the J are going to be upset there's going to be no way around that but the issue stems from the approval that was given in in the Construction office zoning so the mistake is made there so I guess the mistake is once and so you think well we know better so what what is put in place to not make those mistakes I guess that's I can guarantee you the zoning officer knows exactly how it works down they they would know then too with the literally a different four three people but it's the same coordinate that's the same like this is far more common than you would think it comes up a lot like this or towns like Ron or Fair Haven because the property values are you know people have a bigger State you know if you're living you know a house that's you know $200,000 in the middle of the county somewhere um and you're not as close to your neighbor as you are at beach toown um it doesn't come up as often but I have to tell you that I've seen I'm was The Burney for Fair Haven happened there I was from Belmar it happened there whenever you have high property values like this um AP to challenge things that the neighbors are doing because the stakes are high well they challenge it because it's against the ordin so so I I don't know so I've seen it with the zoning officer ended up being correct the zoning officer ended up being incorrect you know I because this puts L use you know in a bad position because now if they say yes everybody else is going to say well know they got to do it so FL and that's not how landage works every property is land considers each one separately so it's not a you know what's going to happen I mean just in general I mean obviously you know it's it goes axiomatic that not you know getting in a situation to begin with is the best I'm just telling you that you know you throw the under the bus this is not an uncommon problem in many places that's a long time I'm not telling you it's right it's wrong who's right who's wrong I'm just telling you all your answer than you I was Str University I didn't say that I just said very Loy you sorry um Jack Temple 103 4th Avenue Ry Beach of course um this is about the the church complex 319 the rain I'd like to respond to some I I wrote this down because last week we had a little problem trying to get on the zoom and I was and so I had the time to put this and get the thoughts down the way I wanted to sound I'd like to respond to some recent news coverage and letters to the Eder regarding the church complex at 319 Lorraine which I feel are misleading and incorrect when it was acquired by the township a couple of years ago the reigning business administrator was quoted as saying it was a gem seemingly everybody was on board to implement then a community center essentially located Pearl within this gem within this oyster known as Bradley Beach then came an Abrupt split perhaps coincidentally that the cinema Labs proposal appeared the church with its 122 2-year history and renowned architect this cultural property was shoved to the back burner the powers had other ideas inde deed and created a projected formula of inflated tax increases and capital expenditures guaranteed to spare the owners to death The Architects comments about the positive virtues of restoring the church made in February 202 22 would have been most helpful but instead they were con conveniently blurred there are many unique aspects to the church and its history once more people who had a vision for what it was and could be were frozen out from visiting the church complex what was needed was undiluted full throated support by the mayor and the Town Council get behind a campaign to contact foundations corporations and individuals to contribute to a very very worthwhile project as an example what Jackie Kennedy did to preserve Grand Central Station but no now we're looking at the Bazi Center a very mediocre building at best too bad as we could have had something for posterity we had an opportunity to elevate Bradley Beach above ordinary Beach Town status and lifted proudly to become a mama County Star and tourist destination we had the goods to make it work thank you thank you Kenny can you hear me up there yes yeah I have several questions um regarding the new format of this meeting um Mr Mayor um is the intent that we will never see a bills list during the workshop section uh you see the bills list once a month well I mean that's if you're going to do that then then I strongly recommend that you triple the amount of time you expect from public opinion um if this is attempt to hide um these crazy expenses um they' like the answer to it that's um next question um are we ever going to meet the CFO uh yes you will we have when uh within the next few meetings because we have a corrective action plan from the audit that he would present um we're going to have a budget um workshop and hearing so in the coming couple of months you will be at able to Mee well I mean it's a little crazy I we're paying this um gentleman understanding part-time but um it is interesting to hear to say corrective action is that for the 2022 audit yes um he's he's not he's not a he's not a part-time employee he's a shared Service uh it's a little bit I understand but we have limited hours correct anyway um quick question regarding the CFO asking for the incremental 1.8 million in uh the bond um potential loan what can add extra 1.8 million be used towards is it only capital projects or is it could be used to offset budget expenses or where do we go with that 1.8 million we're we're not going to borrow Capital the U the bond that we're looking for is for projects specific projects and once again um I believe that was an authorization level uh we've been able to refine that down so um I'm confident we'll be able to answer that question for the council to doing that today well I mean it seems a little strange one point million is quite a bit of money for a town like Bradley Beach that um we don't have enough um visibility to that but anyway but that cannot be used towards to drive down any potential budget increase that could approach another 13 13.2% this is capital correct correct okay um back to bi AI Center um the last meeting we were at um the company from Morris County that um did DBA and everybody else multiple names um would you say that they did a good job on the project and were closets and things like that covered in the work that they did yeah they did a good job H okay that's on record yeah okay don't don't bat your eyes because I've heard of multiple instances where closets were not inspected things were thrown out and um a lot of potentially um good things like Historical Society material was damaged but that's okay um last thing I'd like to um I think you're misinformed what's your last thing okay thank you um last question I'd like to thank um Mr gubitosi for bringing up the idea of not moving ahead forward with projects on Main Street until the sewers and things are done um I've been having a very good discussion with Mr Marco regarding the Bradley um Boulevard pooling issue which is uh it's been sort of interesting I'm not going to go through all the discussions I had with M Marco but it is amazing that um we've now had to pay another $445,000 to fix the pooling project but we've already dug up the road once for um the water lines we then did phase one sewer and um we never figured out to correct that but amazingly we always knew that there was a problem there so you know before we start you know moving on to phe six and seven whatever we want to go to um I strongly recommend that we work with the burough engineer to really understand where the problems are so we can fix them once instead of the third time you know we're up to about 4 uh I think my last count was $493,000 in overage from sewer projects but um it would be nice if we could get um all these projects fixed when we know there's a problem to begin with thank you thank you uh else uh yes Don Greenberg hi Don Greenberg 302 Park Place f um I just baffles me I think this is a comment and a question how can you have a resolution for almost $12 million when and not have the CFO available either in person or on Zoom not have the ba available either in person or in Zoom uh excuse me the acting VA and not have the bond attorney available either in person or in Zoom I mean why weren't they here Mr Mayor I mean this is a 12 million freaking dollars so you know this isn't unfortunately um I'm confident that the numbers are good um unfortunately that wasn't my question my question was trying to answer I'm trying to answer your question the business the bur the acting uh bur administrator unfortunately had a death in the family um she was trying to get back up for this meeting I did not opt to have the CFO or the bond attorney come there was a question that came up on this uh that I thought I answered on Monday uh the council asked me a question I sent them out the detail obviously they wanted more detail we'll provide that tomorrow yeah I I I think going forward the proper approach would be when you're talking about millions of dollars and let me repeat that millions of dollars that an expert and with all the respect Mr Mayor you're not an expert on bonds okay well well I don't think you are or else you would have had the CFO here um that the CFO should be here or somebody who knows the law on it somebody who knows the total detail on it because we really weren't given any detail tonight I believe that that person should be here before asking the council to vote on it and kind of backing them into a corner as it were where if they don't vote on it we might not be able to get any so I I think the planning on this could be better and I get um Meredith had a death in the family that can't be avoided but you know our our mystery CFO could have been here and and I think that's a a failing on your part for not having okay thank you okay thank you you're welcome uh okay anybody else yes y 116 y Avenue um at just about all the meetings at some point someone asked a question and the answer turns out to be we'll have to get back to you on that or we'll talk about that offline um I'm pretty sure that the answer to those questions is of interest to everyone attending to meeting everyone every resident in the town is there a way that the question and then the answer could be posted on the website on the newslet something so that we can so that we can all learn that information yeah we can include it in the minutes for the next meeting well no they'd be the minutes of this meeting right I understand that but when you say we'll have to get back to them that that means it's not in the minutes of this meeting it's it's in the future because you have to research it so once you have the answer to the question and you get back to the one person is there a way that we can all get that answer so that we can all have that information yeah I understand your question and IES AR in that we approve the next the next set of minutes once they're approved they are posted but will the answer be in there as long as it's given to me to put in the minutes absolutely oh okay back with my question we can do that I guess a question Mr canot Craig if we don't if the question is asked during this meeting but the answer is delivered outside of this meeting and that answer be included in this meeting's minutes it's a your pleasure you're a minute so you can do it that way I mean there's a rider to this these documents are detailed as the purposes for that money has to be used you can't get approved from the mcia has to be a submission with a list of items no uh I don't think we're talking about that I think just in general terms General yeah post the document my point is you can just post the document on the website you know tell people that it's there I know I know almost everyone in this room checks everything on the website hear at every meeting um I just want to make sure we're coming up with a solution that works legally like legally is it okay I'll just ask you again to make sure we're on the same page if we if the question is asked by the public in this meeting and and we say we'll get back to you and and we do we commit to doing that we do but mayor s to gavel meeting adjourned a day later two days later we get the answer it makes the minutes that of this meeting that gets published a week later is it okay that we're answering that admin supposed to be reflection on what happens here so the answer come out here don't that's the best way to do it but there's an underlying document for what we're talking about you can just post use Facebook page instead no I would not recommend Facebook P I would say we could footnote the minutes with the responses which has been done before yeah what's that that has been done before put the minutes yeah I've been given stuff to put in the minutes that that occurred at a meeting that were approved at the next meeting we'll I think we can put okay and if not will we get some sort of information to minut where we can get thank you yes that's Kepler 504 Central Avenue here at BR Beach um I would like to take this opportunity to address an issue that I believe is important to make a distinction between what is a bully and what is righteous indignation um a bully is someone who seeks to harm intimidate or Co someone perceived as vulnerable righteous indignation however is also called righteous anger it's an anger that is primarily motivated by a perception of Injustice or other profound moral lapse often times telling inconvenient truths is perceived as bullying because criminals don't like being exposed when citizens know the facts and are fed up with the lies they are often mislabeled as bullies it's people over Big Money Packs it's people over powerful developers who are trying to take over our community speaking out is the only way to save our burrow and to stop the criminal Network targeting BR Bradley Beach in fact it is our duty as Citizens to speak out and to use our voices to defend our town and our leaders who are standing up for us against these criminals we will have your back while you continue Contin to fight for us and our way of life anger is the birthplace of change you cannot correct what we are unwilling to confront and what you permit will always continue our hope for a better future lies not in ridding ourselves of righteous anger which channels towards positive productive changes anger tells us that there has been a violation of some sort it definitely has its place and right rightous anger is not only acceptable it is necessary that concludes my statement on that and in regard to the passing of this Bond I have to say it reminds me very much and Likens to the let's pass the bill and then we'll see what's in it that was the first thing that came into my mind and I would like to tip my hat to Madam president for being willing to take a stand in this matter because this is not how you run a government and you're you're throwing around millions of dollars like their nickel and dimes and it's our tax money that will be paying that money back I didn't even you don't even have you may not be an expert with all due respect about bonds but you don't even know the rate do you know the rate even something as simple as a rate I know what the rate was in the fourth quarter I don't want to quot if the rate shift between the fourth quarter and this ba do you know how lame you look do you realize how ridiculous you look it's embarrassing it doesn't bring me any pleasure to stand here and say this for with all due respect as far as my heart is concerned councilman goosi you are my mayor I don't care what the vot says you're the you have been a leader and you are you are the reason that we are going to actually maybe someday hopefully get to the bottom of this this number problem that we seem to be having but there's criminality fo excuse I'm not done you're getting close no not yet no not even close I'm sorry you you know let's have the level of Civility and decency there are you familiar because Mr Canon can hip you to the rules cuz you my civility is not required I just did you not just pay attention I can make you a copy righteous anger I have a right to be angry you're spending squandering and embezzling my money well you're accusing me of embezzlement yes I am I'd be very careful with that well you're I have every right to I Tred see this is where righteous anger comes in I addressed it the right way the way it was supposed to be done I wrote a letter citizens signed it sent it to the Attorney General's office radio silence crickets but I have a right to stand here and if it's my opinion that you're a criminal and you're embezzling my money I have every right to say so too bad so sad you're pathetic thank you yes uh Thomas J Coan 612 thirr Avenue I you know I'm just a little puzzled mayor um the audit was due June 30th of 202 the 2022 a is due June 30th of 2023 you're given an extension by the DCA to September 30th 2023 you are 229 days past the original and 137 days after the extended date okay now tonight you say we're going to meet the CFO because he's going to submit a corrective action plan which tells me we got a problem if we need a corrective action plan every AIT requires a corrective action plan requirement of the a okay but now we got to see what it is see what it says how many items yeah I mean it indicates it indicates that there's issues okay no it indicates that part of the process the question that was asked was when will we meet the CFO the CFO presents the corrective action that is the process how many more days is that going to be from the 139 do we know when the presentation is going to be I said within the next few meetings but but I mean I need specifics when you say soon next speciic that I don't know specific you can't give a specific on a raid either it's unbelievable but I want to address a couple things Mr MOS said he he accused my rents of being fictitious no Mr MOS was addressing us I'm okay well I'm I no he was looking right at me when he said it okay I asked him to address I paid my own for my own garbage cans I'm just saying that those would be nice garbage cans for everyone to buy okay also I fill out the county forms for the county tax board every year and the tax assessor calls me and says are these rents real and I say yeah they are he says wow you're a pretty honest guy cuz they're higher than everybody else so there's a difference and I want the public to understand Mr MOS is comparing a tomato to an orange he's saying my residential house residential houses are assessed differently okay commercial properties are assessed differently so he needs to make that distinction and really come up here with some bullets because it's a shame that he has to cast those dispersions but now I had a question um we're paying uh the police chief salary based on the 20204 uh contract approximately $117,000 a month and now it's been November December January February we're paying for a no-show job do we know when this ends do we know when this ends no I'm not coming and push all that okay the investigation is not within our control we do not okay it end it ends when the investigating Authority tells us okay well okay I'm I have a comment on that too so I I just want to make a you not that September 27th of 2021 I filed a complaint about the police chief and his behaviors in this room okay sent a letter and you were CC mayor um and I got a letter from m Kim Humphrey and it said I will need to forward the this email to the Bur Council and the bur uh and the bur Count Council and councel here in Bradley Beach I am not the appropriate Authority for the police chief per the borrow Administrative Code the mayor and counsel are the appropriate Authority well we probably had this ba and knew what was going on but she's 100% wrong she's not the authority so The Authority is the prosecutor's office so my rights were denied by Miss Humphrey and you mayor Fox and we probably wouldn't be in the situation we're in now if this was addressed then so the Office of the Attorney General Internal Affairs and policy procedures 5.1.8 complaints against law enforcement executive or a member of the executive senior management team may originate from a member of the public or from an employee of the agency as such complaints shall be documented and referred to the County prosecutor's office for review my complaints that never happened uh no it didn't it didn't no you're you're incorrect those were my second complaints which I took exactly to the prosecutor's office these complaints were ignored by you and my rights were violated just want to let you know these things could have been taken care of a lot sooner if people were proactive in running our government thank you thank you yes 11 Beach uh looking at the uh bur's website uh I happen to notice uh with the uh sh Tre commission they had a meeting in August of uh 2023 at that meeting they uh and there was no other meeting from August all the way to January but at that August meeting it was uh discussed to have uh two meetings per month possibly and that they would look into it so on and so forth and that's what made me think about it wait a minute you're looking at two meetings a month but yet from August to January you had no meetings and and then at that same meeting they were uh discussing as far as the uh financial report that there were uh uh whatam we call discrepancies and it would be researched okay fine I'm looking and there's absolutely nothing go to the January meeting January of 2024 which is the very next meeting they had that's posted and in there says absolutely about the twice a month meeting has absolutely nothing about the budget uh the only thing it says is the shade tree has account is $ [Music] 15,77 nothing about the dispute or anything else like that can anybody let me know what happened here I follow up with the uh the commission uh and Mr Mayor I assure you that uh the sh Tre commission met between August of last year and January those meetings somehow were not posted to the website that's a different issue but I can that's what I'm asking has there been meetings and I'm telling you there Happ okay it's not posted and Mr shuck I'm also aware that the discrepancies you're reverencing were about dollars in and out of the Shi trust and my understanding is they got them resolved with working with the administration what were they I can't recall the specifics Mr Mayor maybe you recall no no um the money was spent out of the shet tree trust actually you probably know yeah I believe like um some honor me trees were sponsored it went to the wrong account and it was missing from their account but it was located and put into the trust the shade tree commission was owed money that ended up some place else in the world but they straight did out a discrep it took them a track that down figure it out okay on a different note uh I want to going to uh the health department in M County we had a little meeting and stuff and uh they provided me with a bunch of covid-19 test kits so if anyone wants them they're here help yourself uh the other thing is they expire uh May 14 uh 14th of this year 2024 thank you could use them they're here they're there and I think if you check online the expiration dates yeah all you have to do is look up the lock number and say typically longer than that no this that's the deadline thanks I checked with them thank you yes rck B 116 lure uh my pet peeve or question where are we on the concession rfps out about out and about so I can see them on the yeah on the website okay thank you you're welcome yes hi Dr Tomar say t Avenue um hoping Mr sh wouldn't speak yet just because I wanted to ask him to see if he could comment on the rfps and where we are with the church I know he's on the land since we really didn't get anywhere with that um and I really hope that our next meeting we can really move forward with figuring out what we're doing with the church and have all information um and the other thing is it's um mayor it's not the most comfortable thing standing up here just isn't and when we have a concern compl and you have people staring at you just doesn't feel great and I just you I didn't hear the last said it does not feel great when we are up here and we're trying to talk and um we get an okay thank you okay thank you okay thank you it's it's rude you're cutting us off and I just want to make sure that you understand what you're doing is what's called Viewpoint discrimination and I hate doing this I feel dictionary want to get definitions of things but view point discrimination is when you cut us off when you don't like it if you want to comment if you don't like I start saying something and you don't you don't get to do that you can do that after we're done talking this is public comment not public comment then the mayor gets to Ral because he feels uncomfortable and he's got to defend himself you don't get to do that so if I want to say shut up hey shut up I can do that says it in here I'm protected to do that so if someone stands up here like Beth do and she says things that are very postive to you and I know it's uncomfortable everyone in the audience feels that it's uncomfortable but you have to give her credit that she does stand up here and say things not many people do this I mean you can count in your hands how many people come up with it's not many people so I just want to make you aware I also want to make you aware that the words are vement CTIC and sometimes unpleasantly sharp attacks on government and public officials are protected speech we have enough lawsuits in this town you are opening yourself up for a lawsuit every time you try to cut us off shorten our time or say okay thank you okay thank you when you say okay thank you that's you cutting us off and to someone up here you're trying to say my time is up my time is not up until my time's up that timer goes on so please just stop doing it if they're done just let it be done let them walk away and say thank you not okay thank you every time I know it sounds ridiculous it's that I'm saying cuz that's what it sounds to us in the audience you cut off an elderly person you c a person who's C it to you I'm sorry that it happens but it does happen the other thing I just want to make aware because you did say something that she's calling you a criminal the past president has been called a criminal Obama has been called criminal um I'm pretty sure there was an entire chance to lock Hillary Clinton up they called her a criminal they can call people we can call you that there's defamation laws you do I know you're not an expert in bonds I know you're not a lawyer but I think you should talk to U Mr pen about what we can say about you and what we can call you we allowed to do mudslinging we're allowed to say things that that might even be untrue we are protected under that law that we can do those things so I just want you to understand again it's not comfortable here my wife and she says your heart races she hates it we do not want to talk we don't we want this town to run smoothly we want things to run great but you make it difficult so it's hard for us to sit back and shut up and not say so when you say something and you try to cut us off it is very very very uncomfortable so I ask you I think I did this like two years ago please stop doing it just shut up and take it you got to I'm not cursing at you if I was that is not protected speech I cannot call you very very bad words I want to sometimes but I don't um so please just you need to temper your tone and your speech to us we do not have to do it to you thank you very much thank you uh there's no other comments I I just comment to the original comment I made U earlier today and that's U you know we're going to disagree on things we're going to have a different perspective um we should try to gauge how we speak to each other of own neighbors this isn't the national politics um and my reactions when I say okay thank you fast uh according to the last person up uh I might say that fast um but uh you know sometimes it just feels like that's needs to that is what needs to be said so I thank you I think I'll move to the next agenda item which is uh second all in favor that's [Music] probably I don't a lot of patient