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Campbell here kber here cie here rostad here sailor here oransky and chairperson Brass here uh with that we will adopt the agenda make a motion to adopt the agenda bansy all those in
favor motion passes all those not in favor motion passes uh approve previous meeting minutes everyone had a chance to review those there's a lot of
them okay uh with that make a motion to approve the previous media minutes so moved second Al those in favor hi motion passes and consent items recommend approval of the final plat for High
Point Vistas for Star pc22 24-20 this is the final plat you reviewed it in your packet if there's any questions for City or staff at this point now would be the time any final issues questions or
anything okay with that I'll make a motion to approve or second second all those in favor opposed motion carries and then we'll move right into the action item L
7A if you can present you see the screen yep there okay great just adjust all right thank you Planning Commission uh we have a concept plan in front of us this evening for the
business known as Edco for a site that's located on Creek Road uh this is being proposed by Pope Design Group so the site in question is centered in this uh aerial exhibit here and highlighted in orange or yellow um
it is located north of Creek Road and south of angler Boulevard kind of in the area that we call our Southwest chasa area um the surrounding uh properties adjacent to the site include the chasa Creek Center which includes a couple
corporate industrial buildings um there is a uh city-owned site uh to the southeast of this property off of Creek Road that would be the future Municipal Services building we have rural residential on the south side across
from Creek Road um and then um we are right on the chasa border here at the Western end so we have a couple jurisdictions that AB but um the property on the west side so we have
doen Township and a NE rural residential property abing the uh western side of the site and then um Northwest of the property is what's considered Lake Town Township and we have additional kind of vacant
property and other rural residential um to the north we have inler Boulevard and uh what is known as a West Creek Corporate Center which holds a few Data Center buildings within that Corporate
Center uh so in terms of where they're at in the process they're right at the beginning stage of our normal three-step review process so they're at concept plan so they'll have two remaining steps following this one if they move forward this evening uh so to just to give a
brief refresher the concept plan is really a high level overview of what's being proposed um this is where we start to identify issues and give comments to inform the next uh steps so there might not be as many details Incorporated in this step uh but that will help inform
uh the subse subsequent steps after this uh which will contain more detail um just a little bit of background and some information on the business being proposed here uh with any concept plan application a neighborhood meeting is required to be conducted by
the developer or applicant prior to the concept plan submittal so they did conduct one on January 30th of this year they had four total attendees at this meeting um some of the items or topics and
questions that got brought up during that meeting uh surrounded water usage and waste water uh potential truck traffic um and also uh screening on the western property line adjacent to the residential Edco um is a business that's
located within Minnesota and they did start back in 1946 so they do have a a long-standing presence here in Minnesota they currently operate out of Hopkins in two different locations within that city um one of their sites will remain
uh with uh the proposal that's being proposed this evening uh which is more of their Distribution Center uh the other one which uh handles the office and production side of their business will be the site that relocates to chasa
and what's being proposed this evening uh so the Distribution Center site will stay um and then the other site for production and off will relocate here to chesa uh their business specializes in metal fabrication uh for exterior
building materials and uh they're considered one of the largest manufacturing uh places for pre-finish metal siding and roofing uh the site in question uh this evening is a roughly 28 Acre Site uh
again located within uh the Western uh Southwestern corporate limits of chasa the site is currently Zone rural residential or rr2 um it's utilized as Farmland so it's
been actively farmed over a number of years um there have been a few Wetlands um identified on site both on the North and the South sides um and then there's also a known electric easement along the north property line that's 20 feet wide
um and then also to mention this property the 28 acre property is owned by the Haskin family they also own a 2 and a half acre uh property just to the northw northwest of this property that will come in uh to discussion a little
bit later on uh just a couple views looking into the site both from angler Boulevard which is the top image looking South on angler Boulevard and then looking North on Creek Road just to give you an idea of um kind of the natural condition of
the property today so uh what the applicant is requesting this evening is for concept plan approval for a new building totaling uh 240,000 square fet and 38 ft in height um they also show a potential
expansion area on the Eastern side of the site uh next to the proposed building that could be up to 120,000 Square ft um they're proposing a new parking lot on the west side of the building totaling 185
stalls um and then they also propose that 155 of their employees would operate out of this building uh in terms of the comprehensive plans guidance for this property uh it's guided Business Park in our 2040 plan um so the use for uh
office industrial building fits um or is consistent with the guidance uh for this property um other properties in the area area are also guided for that business park use uh this slide contains uh the
concept plan or the site plan proposed for the building uh so as I mentioned before it's a 240,000 foot building uh the expansion area is propos kind of uh east of the proposed initial
construction uh ranging from 60 to 120,000 Square fet maximum uh the building is rectangular uh in shape in footprint uh access into the site they're proposing an access point on
kind of the western Southwestern uh limits of the property uh directly off of Creek Road they do um have or identify a secondary access point on the Eastern portion of their property kind of lining
up with the adjacent uh driveway off of Creek Road um and this um they'll eventually install or propose uh once they go through a wetland delineation process uh an approval process um to
punch that through uh but on the onset they're showing one access point to access both the parking lot and and uh where the trucks would access around the building there would that access be on the future expansion at that time probably um what they've indicated is
that once they get through Wetland approvals they will they will more than likely install that truck access so that they can separate those two points of access uh the parking lot is proposed on the western portion of the site and uh
western side of the building uh totaling 85 stalls and as I mentioned before um they would have uh roughly 155 employees um at this building that will be uh within Stager shifts so they'll have
kind of the normal uh morning hour uh manufacturing shift and office shift in the morning and then they'll have an evening shift as well so 155 employees wouldn't be the total necessarily um
during that full work day they'll be staggered throughout the day the loading area and shipping yard is what they've called it is on uh the Northeast side of the building so facing out towards angler Boulevard uh that is
one piece that we've uh identified as something to further evaluate into the preliminary uh given that angler Boulevard is a much heavier uh use Road um looking at options to um uh look at
the uh Southeast side uh screening is still a huge component of that so depending on where they um Orient that shipping yard and loading area uh screening and bming uh will be an important piece of
that um in addition to other screening needs because there is a um direct neighbor to the west here being a residential property it will be important for that West Edge to incorp at um a level of uh vegetation and bming
um along that edge to screen the parking lot and portions of the building uh this property I included an image uh from Creek Road does have a pretty healthy layer of vegetation on their Eastern property line um but it's
still uh a requirement of uh the industrial property to incorporate their own buffering and screening along with that uh another piece um we noted in our staff report um but something to work on
uh as they approach preliminary is understanding um access opportunities on Creek Road especially with the proximity of uh the angler Boulevard intersection the county has um uh certain requirements in terms of spacing uh from
an intersection onto a County Road um and being that uh the hasin family owns both these properties it will be important for them to understand if there is access opportunity through this site um so that they don't get boxed in
uh on on the corner there uh so one thing that they'll have to further evaluate I think they've been starting to think about it on the onset here um but again to further reinforce that evaluation as they move into preliminary will be
important uh as far as parking um uh we don't know the total breakdown of their manufacturing and their warehousing uh uses of the building um because those have varying uh parking requirements um but we'll need to
understand that moving into preliminary I think we can say that for a building this size will require a pretty hefty parking requirement per code um but obviously we would only uh want them to
construct what's necessary for the the building and the site and for their employees but be able to show um through proof of parking that they're able to um meet the parking code for this size of building so more to come on that as we
go into preliminary but a big or important piece that they'll need to work on um another piece uh that's important for this site that's been kind of precedented um on the east side or within the chasa creek Corporate Center
is uh ensuring that there's um adequate pedestrian con connections as well as pedestrian Gathering spaces uh for these sites um there are natural amenities out here that can be taken advantage of um
that uh run along the edges of this property um so there's opportunity to connect into those um amenities as well as try to find some uh connection opportunities with the site to uh the East here at in chasa Creek Corporate
Center um that was an important element or um objective to hit uh during that developing um project uh so we would carry over that same objective here uh for them to uh provide
an area that employees can work but they can also enjoy uh the surrounding area too um if um applicable uh this exhibit shows The Pedestrian connections kind of around uh
this site um the red and blue are sidewalk extensions um that are already built uh the green pieces are future um uh potential connection points uh the one that's um uh more relevant to this site in
particular is the the green line on the north side of Creek Road uh currently the trail uh stubs at the roundabout at Creek Road and chasa Creek Boulevard um and with the Reconstruction of Creek
Road that is uh bound to happen soon here and kind of a trigger point with uh development in this area that trail will extend um West and closer to the site uh they'll have to show that in their preliminary plan how that um connection
Point can be achieved uh the building um these are the proposed elevations on this slide here um it will read like a two-story building um the office portion of the building will be a
true twostory uh building but the remaining portions with the warehousing manufacturing will um have uh clear Heights within those um the materials they're proposing are uh pre-cast panels
with some ribbed banding uh uh ACC accentuations on them um as well as uh windows and um some accent metal uh materials to uh provide a little bit of pop of color to their um trademark Mark
or to their logo and branding so they'll have to meet our industrial uh building design and material standards and they'll have to show how they meet that in the subsequent approvals and in a rendering uh being
shown of the front of the building uh facing so this elevation would face uh Northwest um so this is the main entrance here and where that office twostory component would be on the building uh so just a few things to work
on for preliminary uh parking um is a big one uh they'll have to show proof of parking um meeting the city's parking requirements um and providing a summary for the need uh for parking on site for their facility and their employees um
and they need to do that for both the proposed and the future needs given that they are anticipating a building expansion of some scale um in the future that they are planning for um enough room to expand parking uh if
needed um evaluating the orientation of the loading area potentially to the southeast side um to help with um getting it off that um uh more trafficked area um in addition to that
creating screening and buffering and uh adequate places um with their land landscape plan specifically around the parking areas the loading areas and the uh adjacencies to uh residential um also looking into
opportunities for pedestrian Gathering areas and connections to amenities and to existing um uh pedestrian Pathways um and then also looking into
access opportunities um to the the 2 and a half acre hasin property and the the common pieces that need to be worked on preparing for a preliminary submittal is a wetland mitigation and impact plan um as well as a storm water plan um that
takes into account both the proposed and future uh needs for the site uh so with that um we're asking you to make a motion this evening to recommend approval of the concept plan for Edco on Creek Road uh and then based
on the conditions that are listed in the staff report happy to answer any questions we do have Representatives here from Edco and the design team too thank you Liz um do have a couple of questions just to start so
36 feet 36 or 38t 38 ft so uh is it going to be two stories of manufacturing in the warehouse or is it just uh from what was indicated in their plans it's just the office component would be that full two store
peace got it and then who's do we maybe the applicant can come forward or someone on behalf of the applicant you John the C I'm from Pope Design Group thank firm and do we need
any address for the record 4876 Biv and court and gr Heights thank you um okay so I got the two stories I do agree with the city try to take a look at loading so it's not facing angler that would be
think that'd be worth looking into um so you're the architect correct I work for director yes yeah okay and then who's the actual developer indoor do we have a contractor yet who's building it uh Gardener Builders has been hired to be
the contractor um the land was purchased so it's not a develop yeah so it's kind of it's like a build a suit correct yeah okay and so Gardener G Builders yeah okay got it
um and then the secondary access would that be a stub in at this point and then wait to to create a road with I kind of saw the road kind of goes around the potential future building expansion yeah so if I could step back for a second um talk about your the loading actually
it's it's nice that you brought it up um since we put the application in we've had a civil engineer looking at the site uh does grade slope down quite a bit and so we're looking at grading we're looking at the Wetland impacts trying to avoid having to mitigate in this first step um looking at storm water polling
and infiltration and they are actually recommending we take and turn the building about 10 to 12 degrees and get that loading in that Southeast Corner because tastes a little more this way then yeah it it'll East yeah it'll twist upward so it'll be a little more parallel with angler actually and not so
y so twisting the back up so then the dock flips to the sou side area so that actually works better we're looking at narrowing the building a little bit um to avoid the Wetland TR so then that Southeast access to the truck court is even more important um we've been having
discussions again civil engineers also going to do the Wetland delineation and they've been looking at and said you know there's a farmer Access Road the delineation plan that we've been working with that had been a while ago they're like that seems odd it seems like there is a strip there that we should be able to not be Wetland and allow for that I
see it kind of looks like already been used yeah it's been used as an axis and they're like so that seems unusual they saw a couple things in the Wetland delineation that confused them it wasn't following Contours it didn't seem to take that into account and so they're they think they're going to come back with a delineation that might work a little better and that maybe we can get
that access at day one because of course you know Ed Coen you know it's pretty common that we want to avoid passenger traffic and truck traffic wherever we can so we would like to put that in day one if it turns out we need to mitigate it just for schedule we want to get the building in and done and operational as
we pursue a longer time frame to mitigate what lenss but we would want to put the connection to the truck dock in as soon as we can so you would actually do the second access as soon as you could and connect it to the truck core Y and the Ring Road would then just be um
fire Lan keep the a around the building we would be coming in from the you know it up Southwest yeah we'd be coming in from the southwest and running the trucks over to the truck Dock and the passengers up here until that road got connected to that axis and
then we would just simply stop the trucks coming in there we direct the trucks to the they have their own access point yep and the rest of the ring is just fire L 20 foot fire L okay so You' still remain you have the ring around
the building yes y got it um just just do no Drive IND doors just curious I think one drive IND I think there'll be one drive IND I have one somewhere yeah yeah okay those was just kind of my basic questions at this point obviously
the script footages don't know parking yet and how that all shakes out but yeah the 185 we had on there was based on it um I apologize that it didn't get in the information it should have been on the site plan um but the 185 did factor out to the amount of P percentage of um
manufacturing and warehousing to the city code that's where the 185 came from correct so they they build up during the summer or or during the winter they build up product in there um because they're not selling it as much um so that's what that portion of the
warehouse is for but it's probably roughly half not even quite half Warehouse half Warehouse half Warehouse the rest is manufacturing office so it's a it's a goodly Manufacturing footprint um and I heard multiple shifts
right two right two well two sorry Travis Crystal uh Chief Financial Officer thank you um for co uh so yeah we have our our manufacturing currently only runs one shift um but our distribution side so we we do stage orders for the next day shipment in the
evening so that's the second shift is just for the warehouse at this time okay all right uh that's it for me any other questions for the couple commission great um roughly time frame
of the expansion we don't have a time frame in mind right now uh it just depends on how we're able to grow so we've been uh space constraint for the last decade in our current spot so we we limited our growth um so we're excited to grow um but how soon we all need that
space I don't think it'll be it won't be soon it'll be I would guess 10 years would be my best estimate is when we expand would that be more warehousing or manufacturing combination most through warehousing um so we we don't anticipate needing much more manufacturing so maybe
a light bit manufacturing but majority would be extra warehouse space at that time and when you you talked about truck trips coming in and out how many trucks a day we don't have very many trucks so we have about a dozen trucks a day is currently what we do so pretty limited truck traffic right pick up in the
summer time or is that is summertime um it's a little bit more in the summertime but not a not a significant portion of it so um yeah let's use round numbers and say it's probably 10 in the winter time and 20 in the summertime still not a significant
amount and then this is probably more a question for City staff but because Creek Road is that's the other side is dalren Township then correct on the west side right and so a lot of these trucks are going to want to come in from that direction probably
putting a lot of wear and tear on that section of the road do we have some communication with doen on that as far as yeah long term you know that's an area that is programmed I guess or you know thought uh to be annexed by the
city of chasa so that you know Creek Road connection um to angler would ultimately be a city of chasa Street um but I think you rais a good point in the interim uh making sure that you know that Rel relationship is making sense
right um so I think we can make sure that we're touching on that right now so I know the this resident that live over there that's gonna get worse probably trucks coming yeah I think you know good news is that um you know this
development will push you know our intention to make improvements to Creek Road um I think the timing of that is still up in the air right we'll have to figure that out but this you know this development will spur some of those improvements to the road to happen that will also spur some discussion I think
with doen Township about that portion that's between you know chasa and angler um does that get incorporated into an improvement project or how what's going to make sense there especially knowing long term that's um you know that becomes a city
street we do Envision majority of our uh employees in trucks coming from 212 today so most would be coming from the East not from the west but there would be some traffic for sure that's the easiest way in but I know how they work
[Laughter] too that's all I got anyone else one question this is likely more so for the city at this point is there any indication of how this build might be timed with the future City municipal
service building and the other road construction that's out I think timing wise this will likely happened before we start construction on our building um we're only just ramping up the design process for the municipal
Services building uh with the intention of kind of going through the process starting this summer spring late springsummer with construction probably not happening until um early next year at the earliest and I'm sorry what was
your other question oh as well as that Improvement the roads and Trails just trying to mapap out in my mind what the sequencing would be yeah and I think the timing on the road pie at this time but I think it's it's
going to be a conjunctive um conversation as we're looking at this project I bring utilities yeah to the building yeah so yeah the the street the city street improvements um you know that timeline
will get I think flushed out and that's and that'll get pushed along you know this project pushes that discussion the city's project pushes that discussion often what we try to do in developing areas is have that street installation Improvement happen at the tail end of
the development project because all the heavy truck traffic and things that will be you know for the construction equipment um can put a lot of wear and tear so you know rather than start out with a brand new Street and get that horn up by construction traffic we like to do it the other way around right try
to extend life of that road you be just me my ADD or like someone a timer I'm hearing a little beeping and I'm also smelling like some sort of barbecue situation so I don't know if that's just me I think you're on your own with the
barue but yeah the beefing is someone in the want Hur just meeting sounds like it's coming from oh is it down the way yeah somewhere in City Hall I don't know they should bring yeah all right um it's not a public hearing but I'll
open it up thank you guys it's not a public hearing but I will open it up if someone wants to address the commission any questions comments now would be the time to do so uh the sir sir there yeah you please state your name and oh my name for the record
please nor 4825 Creek Road East half of the first quarter of do my
question where was the person taking that photo with h green vegetation this is a a Google image this isn't the real
world it was taken from a vehicle on Creek Road so it's facing uh Northwest on Creek Road pretty much straight yep straight this is the the nemit property
yep don't care [Laughter] uh what plans are in place regarding using vegetation for noise
control well yeah I C First St but generally what there will be is there's going to be a tree requirement trees and bushes and that'll be settled in the next stage when they come back they're going to have to show a landscape plan and the landscape plan is going to incorporate so many trees deciduous pine
trees different varieties and bushes along perimeters of the property line minimum what was that you're planning for the minimum well no it's generally speaking the city has a pretty robust tree
requirement so they'll have to PL they'll have to plan and they'll show on a landscape plan at the next meeting where they're going to put those and how that's going to work and they'll work with City staff generally it's usually on the perimeters so it blocks View and helps with noise and buring and
bming and I didn't uh maybe I wasn't listening clearly uh what's happening with uh Creek Road I mean it's it's been a a mess for
years and no one seems to care or whatever I don't know a relative of mine started driving down he thought it was under construction so he turn around [Laughter]
left been that way for years yeah yeah it's rough yeah so is anyone thinking about that and what are the thoughts well I think City just addressed it that they
will be working on improvements to the road this development will help spur that and how many vehicles per day are they predicting once the event occurs well about 12 to 20 trucks and then they have their employees which come in the
morning and leave in the afternoon 120 employees oh the idea employees I'm sorry what 150 employees yeah so will it main two lane or four
lane or oh that's question them probably two right yeah yeah so I think the you know the exact layout of that road needs to be studied and this will be you know part of the process for us to figure that out
exactly um but generally speaking I'd expect the road would remain one lane in each Direction um there may be turn Lanes to serve there likely will be uh turn Lanes to serve um you know the business
properties um but it should be you know fairly standard City street to Lane so if you were a prophet when would you predict help will happen if I were a prophet I don't know
that I'd be here um but I do think the the road Improvement like I was saying earlier uh we'd try and time that to happen at the tail end of construction so we've got this project that's being proposed and the city also is looking at building a
new Public Works facility uh along Creek Road as well um this project based on my understanding from the applicant they're wanting to start breaking ground this year um so I would expect you know if they if they're able to achieve that P end of next year
okay um the the city's project we're looking at breaking ground spring of next year so 2026 um with that project would probably wrap up then sometime in 2027 um so then a road project following
that would be my prophecy at this point and is there or could there be just minimal general maintenance to fill in potholes and stuff like that in the inter room I think there has been some Poole filling out there I mean the problem is is that stuff likes to pop
out more Pooles than Road or it's in tough condition I will yeah I'll agree with I I'm not surprised with anything that's being discussed I I I drive I live out in that area um not off a Creek Road but not far away um so I
drive it from time to time um yeah I know the condition so it definitely needs Improvement oh if I want to leverage the process to
improve Creek Road who do I talk to well coming here tonight was a good step um you know we hear you I think the city as far as the city's portion of the road you know that's our intent right what I just described um I I do think there's some conversation and coordination that needs
to happen with the township uh for that segment of the road and uh you know we'll pursue that through the through the road design process we'll have to be talking to them so what's the anticipated n level in the park
lot from this development is that is that what you're referring to I don't have numbers in front of me right now um I think a good precedent example that we could point to would be
the two industrial buildings that have already opened um that aadan built um I think the use uh of those although those are multi-tenant you know buildings and they're they've got their own business model and things um I do think it's a
good measure and a good example of what you can expect from a business type like this I could tell you from personal experience basically nothing you know people come in the morning close some doors and go in and then cars sit for four to 6 eight hours except for lunch
maybe people leave and come and go again but there you know it's a current structure on the north side of Creek Road what percentage of that building is currently being used those two
buildings those two industrial buildings yeah um I think combined they're about 90% full they don't have vild yeah the building on the south I think still has some vacancy in there um
so that might be contributing to some of what you're seeing um but I do think a lot of there's a good proportion of those of the well the building of the South um there's a good proportion of it that's being used as more kind of Warehouse type use too so they're probably a little lower on the employee
scale than what Edco will be you I live in doen what uh relationship do you have with the powers that be in alen Township
um we don't interact on a daily basis um you know I think so far this is this is a little bit of a new area you know for chasa as we're growing and we're continuing to move towards dogin um so I think this will spur a discussion um and some you know conversation we haven't
had a whole lot of dialogue with doen in the kind of recent past um just because the work that's been done uh hasn't really impacted you know doen so what relationship do you have with
doen regarding Road surface that currently is not being done in terms of Maintenance well typically uh you know a Township would be responsible for maintenance of its Township roads and a city would be responsible for maintenance of its City
roads up to that line so that's the nature of the relationship right now but I think this will create an opportunity to talk about how can we work together it be beneficial for you to talk with doen too yeah concerns said this development will um create an
opportunity to talk about how we can coordinate and work together on Creek Road but typically a city wouldn't be doing maintenance of of a Township Road I think we do plow uh
Creek Road all the way to angler so we do provide that service it sounds as if you're uh asking me to accept uh wishful thinking I I guess I'm trying to say that we'll need to be working with doin
um as we move forward this road I think you know as a resident of dalren Township you can certainly talk to your Township as well but we will be reaching out what percentage of Creek Road is dog Township I don't have that number
on a percentage basis we can show on the map where the Township Line is yeah so looks like it's like you're looks like it's all Township where you're at right I think it looks like it's all Township where you're at
right I'm in but to the north of Lake to Lake Town's end of the road is paid yeah right so it's just us human so I'll need to move on to the
next Peete person as well here but they will they will speak with delren and rhs will be taken care of at some point it's part of the process but it would be beneficial if you want to talk with the powers at be at dogr as well and let let them know of
your concern yep is there anyone else I'd like to address the commission come on up yep I wasn't going to make him come on up but name and address please hi I'm Amanda nitz uh my husband Scott and I live in
the property adjoining we're at 4880 Creek Road on the North side there yep so um the only those are those are your trees that yeah um so the only real concern that we have is where all the
lovely trees are um we can't see that from the house anyway so the spot where the parking lot's going to be um is like a direct line of sight from our bedroom our kitchen our den our dining room um
and from The Proposal it looks like their second shift which is when they're going to be loading trucks goes into like 11:00 at night so our only concern is just making sure um like as far as a burm goes the end of
the driveway where all the trees are we we don't we can't see that anyway so we don't know necessarily need a BM there um but we have a huge Willow Tree um on the North End of the property like
closest to Engler yep um that has split and it's going to have to be taken out of there as soon as um you know soon as we can get back in there and get it cut down and pulled out so that's just going to leave a big open view from every
window where we congregate in the house of parking lot so our biggest concern was with our bedroom facing that way in the den is just like the light and the noise with like trucks coming in at
night so the the burm coming all the way to the south end of the property line isn't as big a deal right as the open space and you don't really see it until you get up closer toward Engler
got so that that's our ask yeah that's good so I'm sure the city's taking notes y because it's like i s there and look out the kitchen window and I just see field right now so when you come back I'm ass sure you're going to be here for the next meeting when they come back for
preliminary which is a more important meeting you'll go over Landscaping utility go over all this stuff traffic counts site design will change a little bit loading might even change it sounds like where that's located so um they'll work with the applicant on trying to
make sure we buffer burm and have plantings on the burm yes that will grow over time we do have requirements the trees had to be a decent size and so there will be um some protection right off the bat and it'll get better as you just go on but they they'll work with
them on making sure that the the areas that are Stark will be filled in that was that was our biggest concern for me traffic noise I usually Cal and it's downward facing and you know they're pretty good nowadays with how that works
it's yeah generally it's you know in truck courts and loading areas and sometimes it's even lotion censored and different things so okay which we'll go over all that on the next one just to let you know so that's important that you be there okay
thank you yep thanks [Laughter] okay that was a reference to I think 2 and A4 or 2 and 1/2 acres that hin still has access to where is
that the blue yep right here Northwest the there okay thank would anyone else like to address the commission all right I would like to say
something I'm uh Norman glock's son my address is 4825 Creek Road uh kitty corner from the Ed Cole proposed development I'm not in favor of having
that built across the road from my residence either I live with my dad he's uh getting up there in years but uh we don't need more Industrial Development right there I
think it would be much better if it was closer to 212 in fact there's it appears to me there's more available a little closer to 212 than there is here I'm not Edco I don't make those decisions I
that's out of my hands but I would like not to be right across the road from my residents I also think that if you put you could hook the road up to the current you don't show it on your
graphic there but there's the next to it isn't there a large already uh the Clover Ridge Road I think that's over there the the the two current things wouldn't it be make more sense to come from that Direction with
an access offler no well no well could be off of angler too that won't happen but I'm saying off of the current CU theck down there chasa Creek Center there's that
road that goes mostly East and West between the two buildings between the two sites Liv down between the two buildings he's talking about there there yeah is there no way to access I see
that at the risk of saying I don't want my road improved because that's what it sounds like you're saying if you you do do it this way then you'll improve our road right out front so that's there's no Road there actually that's water you they they red du the hole they
re- uh modeled that whole thing five years ago when they put in those I I it looked like they didn't have much problems doing that don't know what what your plan is you're the Planning Commission thank you so
much okay um anyone I think that's everybody bu online anybody online there is someone online but I'm not sure if they want to hold on I'll ask PR is anyone here online would they like to
speak about this project chair brass I think you're okay to continue on all right well being that it's not a public hearing officially anyway I will take this time to bring it back to commission any final questions
comments for staff before we move on no okay my laptop's not working so if someone who has access yeah to the actual conditions make a motion I'll make the
motion to recommend the approval to the city council of the concept for the Edco building on Creek Road with the follow subject to the following 11 conditions is there a second second second by Bosell all those in favor I
opposed motion carries um with that I would like to ask the residents in the in the applicant of course they already know this moves on to city council so we have recommended approval of the concept so people can submit
Concepts and from there it goes to preliminary and then goes to final so um in a conceptual phase now City Council will look at it so if you have problems grievances or just general questions I would encourage you to go to City Council on the next meeting and this
will be brought up at that time so this moves on to there on the 17th Monday right Monday 17 following Monday from now M day so that would be not the 17th yeah this 17th okay Pat's Day St P's day yeah
yeah um with that I think we're pretty much done is there any other business anything to discuss nothing with that then is there a motion to adjourn make a motion to adjourn for a
second you guys all want to say all those in favor we e