Hereafter for schedule and On Demand viewing on any smartphone or tablet device if anyone else is recording the me the meeting please notify the chair seeing none pursuant to Governor H's March 29 2023 signing of the acts of 2023 extending certain covid-19 measures adopted during the state of emergency suspending certain provisions of the open meeting law General Law chapter 38 subsection 20 until March 31st 2025 this meeting of the chat select board is being conducted in person via remote participation every effort will be made to Ure of the public folks if you could to be quiet in the back thank you guys every effort will be made to ensure that the public can adequately access to proceeding as provided for the order a reminder that persons who would like to listen to the meeting while in progress may do so by calling the phone number 1508 945 4410 conference ID 203 386 491 pound or join the meeting online via Microsoft teams for the link the posted agenda uh while this is a live broadcast and S clast on Channel TV on chadam TV which is now exfinity channel 8 and 1072 despite our best efforts we may not be able to provide real-time access we will Pro post a record of this meeting on the town's website as soon as possible uh first action of the evening is to establish a quorum select board member nicastro present select board member Davis present select board member dyens present select board member shell and select board member betters is present um we have U you know decent agenda tonight uh we have approval of set of minutes we will then move into public announcements and agenda item request we have two public hearings one for utility hearing um on uh Young's Road by eversource we have a public hearing for a uh consideration for an application of new entertainment license um at aalayas at 483 Main Street then we will move on to public comment on our business agenda our business agenda consists tonight of a item a consider utility license request for 240 George Ryder Road and zero and zero Bikeway um Item B consider committee name change for the railroad mum working group to Railroad Museum committee uh and then we have a series of one- day alcohol permits and entertainment entertainment licenses and we will wrap up our evening with uh item e consider a memo memorandum of understanding andou between the cape light Compact and town of chadam for a part-time energy manager position share with the towns of Brewster East ham and Orleans and our final action of the night will be the town manager monthly report for February 2024 so with all that being said I will start with approved adits for March 18th 2024 I'll entertain um a motion so moved second okay any corrections cor uh Dean thank you thank you Mr chairman I have a a few on page three in the second full paragraph um second line which says the offices I'd like to add the phrase and conference room and then on page five um I'm sorry on page four about two-thirds of the way down there's a single sentence paragraph that says there were comments expressed that the study went beyond what was expected I'd like to add a comma and insert this Clause because it demonstrated a re-engineering of the interior of the building comma because it demonstrated a re-engineering of the interior of the building comma then on page five um second line from the bottom and I think Mike caught this as well I this is the size of one of the rooms I think it was 25 ft by 35 ft and that might explain the difference in area but I could be wrong um and then finally on page six um 2third of the way down the paragraph that begins Dave M chadam spoke in favor of it I think that that might be I'm not sure that he endorsed The Proposal I think he had some favorable comments I would suggest uh it be soften to strike in favor of and simp simply substitute the adverb favorably spoke favorably and then finally in the last line the project again comma and insert two the project again comma and 2C what funds are in the town maners report uh funds thank you okay Mike yeah um I I had some nits and typos that I shared with Kathy back to the paragraph on page five that Dean adverted to first of all I I I'm not sure what we do about this because um in fact Mr rabber I think his name is um he did say 24 by 24 was 450 Square F feet in fact it's 576 Square ft I I I don't know how you note that but you may want to put a sick in there or something and then uh Dean with respect to the one you asked about the the extension of 10 feet I think that was a room that was 25 by 35 and if you extend it by the the the dimension that he was going to extend it does produce 35 by 35 so I I think that that's I think that's correct so thank you okay any other edits I I just have one I'll maybe I'll call it in knit but I'll throw it in there anyway on page seven on the roll calls for both um and both paragraphs if we could just substitute yeses for the present so that's a good catchy wasn't a he read it so um this is amendments all those in favor s m to Castro I not that two lawyers on the board failed to catch that yes I so noce s member Davis Hi s member dikin hi s member shell Dean we keep our eyes on the big picture uh I got to keep your mind on the present um and S remember Mets um says I well I get to part for a while tonight so I'm getting my comments in while I can so before we leave the subject of minutes I I just want to inquire I don't believe that we've approved the minutes of March 12th we postponed them they're coming sometime yes okay fine no problem all right public announcements and agenda item request I'll start with the board any public announcements or agenda item requests um I will go to the audience any public announcements or agenda item request is there anyone online with a public announcement or agenda item request not at this time now I believe our town manager has a public announcement yes uh thank you Mr chair I'd like to invite our retiring haror Master Stuart Smith up to the podium to join me for a few citations which are good citations being arrested as long as they're not monetary citations they're going up by $100 I hear so thank you as many of you know uh steuart Smith is retiring after 39 years with the town and we will be having a last coffee and change of watch scheduled for this Friday at 10:00 a.m. here at the annex and certainly everybody is invited to come in uh to also bid well to Stuart and then the next step which I'll get into after you this is all about Stuart right now so Stuart we have a couple of things from the select board as well as the state legislature I'm going to read them and then I'm going to take them back just so you know um so the first one is a town of chadam proclamation and resolution whereas it is with great appreciation and gratitude that we recognize the caner career of Harbor m Master Stuart FX Smith who has dutifully served our town since 1985 and whereas he served the town throughout the years in the roles of special equipment operator waringer assistant Harbor master acting Harbor Master and finally as Harbor Master since 1999 and whereas throughout his tenure Harbor Master Smith has demonstrated a commitment to safety functionality and vitality of our waterways and whereas he has navigated the complexities of Harbor management with skill and dedication ensuring the smooth operation of all Maritime activities and whereas Harbor Master Smith's efforts have not gone unnoticed by many who have relied upon his expertise and leadership in navigating Our Town Waters and now for therefore be it resolved we Corey J Mets select board chair and Jill R Goldsmith toown manager to hereby present to our Master seart FX Smith this Proclamation on behalf of the select board the town manager and all chadam citizens as a testimonial to his faithful and dedicated service to the community and with our best wishes for Fair Winds and following Seas thank you thank you yeah uh one more a certificate of appreciation as we tend to do for our retiring Town employees and this is the town of chattam presents a certificate of appreciation to steuart FX Smith it's such a cool name FX uh for 39 years of service to the citizens of chadam congratulations on your retirement on March 29th 2024 thank you thank you I'll take this the FX uh was my mother's idea and uh I was named after a saint I'm not sure that worked out as as she expected but nonetheless I tried okay this is from the Massachusetts state senate just so you see it it's very cool very nice yes everyone can see this sorry Chad TV all right and this is an official citation from the Commonwealth of Massachusetts state senate official citation be it known that the Massachusetts Senate hereby extends his congratulations to Harbor Master Stuart Smith in recognition of your 38 years of dedicated service to the town of chadam and be it known further that the Massachusetts Senate extends its best wishes for continued success and this citation be duly signed by the president of the Senate and attested to and a copy thereof transmitted by the clerk of the same and it is signed by Karen spilka who's the president of the Senate ATT test by the clerk as well as Julian sier as our state senator thank you that's dated today we can hold on and last this is from the Commonwealth of Massachusetts House of Representatives and it was delivered by Sarah she also wrote steart a very nice note I don't know if you want to keep it to yourself or we can read it as you're taking a look at that I'll read the citation it's the Commonwealth of Massachusetts House of Representatives be it hereby known that all be it hereby known to all that the Massachusetts House of Representatives offers its sincerest congratulations to Harbor Master Stewart Smith and recognition of your retirement foll ing 38 years of dedicated service to the town of chadam the entire membership extend its very best wishes and expresses the hope for Future Good Fortune and continued success in all Endeavors and it is signed by the speaker of the house uh Ronald Mariano and offered by state representative Sarah Peak there you go thank you thank you would you like to say a few words St um yeah I'll probably say uh a few on uh during our change of watch ceremony on Friday that um but I appreciate um all of this this was very nice um I've worked with a lot of boards of Selectmen and I really appreciate you folks being so supportive of the department you truly have um and uh I don't know how many boards this is um but it's a lot over 39 years um but they truly even even when we might not agree everybody came together at the end and and got the mission done um and uh I really have a I can't say enough of the boards of selectman town managers and the and and really the finance committees and the waterways related committees they're all uh I know there's a lot of them but um they all play their role uh and um I appreciate uh you saying all this and um we're going to leave you in in good hands with Mr Holm thank you thank you thank you thank you sir thank you thank you steuart I mean I've served on this board for nine years I've known you from this perspective but I've also grown up in this town so I know you from that perspective on being on the water and and I thank you very much for your service and I wish you all the best I mean we'll be more formal on on Friday but I Ser sincerely wish you all the best great thank you steuart hi um I'm not sure I'm going to be able to make it on Friday because of work but I do want to extend my appreciation for your service to the community from drant Lydia's bottom save Chad's fishing fleet to some several of the disasters and emergencies that you've been through I I'm sure you've seen a lot and you've um been an integral part of Chad's waterways for a very long time and I appreciate that and say thank you for your service thank you we'll still have to fly that Estonian flag from the Army cour days yeah Ste a great job for you know very difficult Waters we're surrounded on three sides by very different Waters so you've done a great job over time and uh really have appreciated your your loyalty and your hard work and uh your tenacity be honest with you thank you um a lot of challenges in that job it's a big job especially in this town it is it's it's it's a unique Waterway it sure is we we say that we're kind of used to it but when others come into this community they kind of shake their head and and they say yeah we've got everything yeah we do we have everything anyway thank you thank you for your service not enough water yeah um Dean steuart thank you for your service and thank you also for your advice and counsel when I've reached out to you always very prompt and very candid and um very insightful and I wish you well on your retirement and um I hope you'll stay involved with the town great thank you thank you steuart I I we we've not known each other very long um you you did have something of a reputation when I came on the board all I can say is that you have outstripped that reputation and and I I've been extraordinarily impressed um in the very short time that I've had to to get to know you a little bit and observe what you do for this town so I thank you very much for that thank you Mike thank you all right good night thank you thank you see you and Mr Cher If you can indulge me in one more announcement I I wanted to announce how excited I am to appoint Jason Holm as our new Harbor Master that was announced today and um I know Jason's really not a outfront type of person but I just wanted to read if I could the U introduction memo and Jason if you would like to come up I I'm sorry I didn't tell you anything about this tonight thank you so um as I noted I'm very pleased to Pro to promote Town aam's own Deputy Harbor Master Jason Holm to serve as the next Harbor Master Jason has over 30 years of professional Maritime Public Safety experience and has served as the deputy Harbor Master for the past 11 years since July 1st 2013 and I hired you so I'm very proud of this moment during his 10 is Deputy Harbor Master he's been instrumental in our discussions with the US Coast Guard regarding station station chadam status and our waterways rescue efforts as Deputy Jason serves as a cap and Islands representative to the Massachusetts Harbor Masters training Council and has been a council member since 2018 and currently Prides as chairperson prior to his employment with the town Deputy Holm retired from the US Coast Guard in 2013 after for a 20-year career which included assignments as officer in charge at station chadam station Provincetown and station maram River Jason resides with in harach with his children and in his free time he enjoys traveling and outdoor activities and spending time with family and friends and I hear he's now a runner right now too that's great he'll be sworn in as Harbor Master during the outgoing Harbor Master Stewart Smith last coffee that will be held this Friday March 2 9th at 10:00 a.m. in the small meeting room at the annex but we can certainly pop in here expecting a pretty large turnout so congratulations Jason thank you Joe apprciate very happy for that announcement all right we're going to move on to First of two public hearings we have one for utility poll hearing uh if I ask the clerk to please read the uh notice please certainly Mr chair notice is hereby given that the chanam select board will hold a public hearing on Tuesday March 26 2024 at 5:30 p.m. in the large meeting room at the Town Office Annex 261 George rder Road chadam and remotely via Microsoft teams platform I'm reading the wrong one excuse me one second this is the utility right yes pleas one second I got it right here okay sorry about that the chadam select board will hold a public hearing at 5:30 p.m. on Tuesday March 26th 2024 to consider a petition from NSTAR Electric Company doing business as eversource energy to install a 40 foot uh by plus or minus of 1 and a/4 in PVC conduit encased in concrete from new handhold 108 h1a at base pole of 1081 to customer installed handhole 108 H1B on Young's Road the installation is being requested by Urus to provide new underground service to the customer located at 132 Barnhill Road public is welcome to attend the meeting in person or participate via a link in the meeting's posted agenda all interested parties are encouraged to participate the select board thank you very much um who is going to speak on this good evening this is Julie longer from evur hi good evening hi so um as stated that that uh urce is proposing to install the 40 foot um plus or minus one and A4 PVC conduit in case in concrete for the new handhole 108 over h1a at the base of the pole 108 over1 to the customer installed handhole at 108 over H1B all right questions or com well actually it's a public hearing so so any questions or comments from the audience inhouse I don't see any is there any questions or comments for anyone who's online none at this time all right now to the board any questions or comments from the board Mr chairman I move approval they're here second second no further discussion all those in favor select M Castro I select board member Davis I select board member dykens I select board member shell I and select board member met says I all right there will be one second second public hearing I'm going to turn over to our vice chair um I'm going to recuse myself basically um be very transparent um my family's had a house on milpond road for for years years years um it is occupied by a member of my direct my immediate family um when this matter came before us on the blue coral I had recused myself because of the conflict of interest uh thus that interest still continues so I am going to recuse myself um as a member of a director butter family director family member director butter um and turn the meeting over to select board member Mike shell to conduct the public hearing so thank you uh Mr clerk would you read the public notice I would be pleased to notice is hereby given that the chadam select board will hold a public hearing on Tuesday March 26th 2024 at 5:30 p.m. in the large meeting room at the Town Office Annex 261 George rder Road chadam and remotely via Microsoft teams platform to consider a request for a new entertainment license for outdoor live and recorded music for applea kitchen and Tiki Bar 483 Main Street all interested parties are encouraged to participate sign the select board so this is a public hearing uh in the first instance I will entertain uh comments questions uh whatever from the public here in the room and oh I'm sorry the applicant please sorry yeah go ahead sorry hello uh I'm Tom Degan uh resident of chadam owner of applia uh kitchen and Tiki Bar um we opened applia last summer as um really was it was a great experience for us it was a new uh concept to town here it's the first Filipino inspired Cuisine my wife is Filipina on on Cape and um by All U by all mean measures we had a a really outstanding summer and it was great excitement about the new space and what we did with it and throughout the summer and and afterward we've been approached by uh musicians customers um members of the community that have expressed interest in seeing if we could do some music um as part of the experience down at applia um we've had entertainment licenses before at Mom and Pops we also own mom and pops and um you know on various occasions we've had music there um and we've thought it's it's a nice way to um you know enhance the experience give some local artists an opportunity to play some music there's also a local DJ that would like to do something there we've actually been uh approached by the Filipino Community as well for uh potentially having some of the traditional music um um in the Filipino culture so um wasn't really something that we had thought about previously doing uh we have done it before at Mom and Pops we understand and appreciate um any concerns around that but um you know I could ask the board you know how many we having the license that we have had at Mom and Pops how many issues we had in the seven plus years that we've operated there with our license and if you're not uh if you don't know the answer it's zero um we're very respectful of our neighbors we have zero interest in in uh having any problems um when it comes to having entertainment or imposing on the on the Neighbors in the community we do think it is a nice way to enhance the experience for uh our guests provide something fun uh for people um also it's a a benefit to where our uh space at applia is located it's in a a courtyard kind of in the back and you have to walk past other businesses to get there so it certainly would be a benefit to those other businesses and surrounded surrounding businesses so I'd be happy to answer any other questions that that people have I have seen some some emails that have come in and I'd be happy to address those as well okay um questions from the public stand yes you you need to um step to the podium and announce your your name and and residence uh yeah I'm Chris Craven uh we have the house at 10 mil Pond which would be uh pretty close to the applier uh and the concerns are obviously noise and hours of operation so we want to make sure that there's the noise is noise levels are tolerable and that it doesn't run too late I can certainly understand like why you would want to have have somebody you know making music but uh there are a lot of houses around there and if it goes into the evening uh it will be a conflict yeah know um to that point uh I think we would be more interested in having music more during the day and maybe the very early evening you know at applia and and even Mom and Pops we don't stay open as late as we're actually allowed to uh but Mom pops closes in the summertime at 8 applia um we could stay open later we close it at midnight um so you know we're not looking for this we and and I don't know if anybody was there last year we wanted a um to create a a very nice um environment and aesthetic to our space um it was really important for us to do it right given the cultural um aspect and my my wife's being Filipina and this being the first restaurant here so we we really care about what we're doing there this is not something that we're looking to just create a a big party spot um I think what this we have created is a spot where you know people my age or even a little younger at this point now because I'm getting older but anyway it's it's a little bit of a different demographic that's going there and I think what we're finding is that we're getting a demographic that's kind of looking to avoid some of maybe the crazier atmospheres that might be out here during the summer and they want to enjoy themselves um I'm happy to uh not have this go on later in the evening and frankly when there questions about you know policing this or making sure you know that's what we do I I I don't want to run a business where um anything is out of control we don't like that I personally don't like that that's not why we're doing this um it really is to create something that's enjoyable for our guests and um um you I'd be happy to cut it off at a particular time that's no problem by me again I think our idea would be having it earlier you know maybe in the daytime and and very early in the evening as it is so DD are you waiting to speak um thank you DD hold striper Lane just right near the uh applier um I know you've gotten several emails were you going to address any of those or uh because some of the people who wrote the emails are here there's about half a dozen of us I guess yeah well they we we have um I I have nine um letters emails whatever um I'm told that there may be at least one more that I don't have in the pile so it may be 10 or more of the spread between plus and minus was three in favor again maybe with conditions but three generally in favor and the balance opposed um the question I mean I would encourage the people if they're here to come up and express their opinions here I I I really am reluctant to force everybody to listen to me read 10 letters or nine letters um they will be part of the the record that for whatever that's worth um but if there are people here who've written letters I would encourage them to to come up and and you know you want to read the letter fine or if you would prefer to just um express your opinion uh you're welcome to do that so um I I I one last thing at I have skimmed most if not all of them the concerns are time of the evening at which it's cut off um amplification versus no amplification um and days of the week uh that I think that's a rough summary of what I've seen of the concerns in the letters yeah that's Pro probably right um we've been here before though as as I think I put in my email that uh blue coral had asked for something similar and uh they were granted acoustic music only and um I I'll let their neighbors speak uh you know for themselves but you know we're very close to Main Street we have we we like to enjoy our property and to have this in addition to this The Squire patio and the other activity in the neighborhood it just really becomes very um intrusive and and uh and affects us to be able to enjoy our property sitting outside late afternoon you know on into the evening so I'll leave it at that and let the others um Express themselves can I just address one thank you one aspect that and I do we just just and thank you um I did receive or saw one of the emails from a Margaret HEC and you know I understand the situation here but I also think there's some fear mongering here and um some bias to be Blunts and I I know the letters of support that have said that and you know I think there are well there's maybe 10 letters out there there's a whole lot of people that either have chosen not to attend or respond and that's you know I guess kind of typical but um you know one of the the letters said something a number of them have referenced another business that is not us and I think in those kind of conversations nobody wants to be judged on the actions of somebody else I don't think that's fair in any way I think we have to be judged on what we have done as a business here how we've operated as a business here we are as owners so I really when I when I see things like that I don't think anybody would like to be judged based on the actions of their neighbors that you are who you are and you operate based on who you are as individuals and and what your approach is as a business so um just taking that off the table we we saw one of the emails said just we're sure that'll be loud and be played well past and agree upon time and difficult to police I mean that's just it couldn't be any further from the truth and that's the definition of fear Ming and and bias up front we have a great relationship with the police I connect with the police all the time the last thing I want to do is put police in a a bad situation uh we do have at the restaurant bouncers when I you know bouncers when I advise them like what do I want you to do I mean you're judge I don't want them in fights I don't want any of that stuff you know our job is if there's anybody that's even approaching being um uh in a in a bad way in one way or another is to you know go to the police and and we're happy to report we did not have any situations like that uh in the summer and that's a pretty difficult thing to pull off considering um you know people like to have a lot of fun of the summer so when I what I just want to make sure when we're talking about these things that you know we are considering who we are as a business and not some of the other things that have been experienced from maybe other establishments and I think if there was an issue with those establishments that's a conversation that should not include us thank you yes sir John Charles 28 milpond Road hi Mike um I've lived there almost 50 years and lived through iterations of this before and I have worked with like David Oppenheimer on when he did the development for quiet and buffering and I worked with Christian's restaurant when they were opening and they put up signage that you're in a neighborhood when you get in the parking lot and you need to be quiet um to your point about prior business the blue coral prior owner uh there was one night it was so loud with Amplified music I called the police and they came out I did not know at the time you needed to request them to bring a deciel meter so there was no direct measurement so I called the restaurant and I spoke to the owner and he said blatantly no that's the Squire that's not us and hung up the phone and so I want to avoid I like the idea of entertainment uh acoustic and a set time or a set few days a week but nothing that's it needs a boundary because it's so close to our neighborhood we need to have a boundary thanks for the opportunity thank you very much yeah I'm I'm entirely happy with that and coming up with a solution um you know one thing just to consider when we're talking about the the noise level um it's if we are a restaurant so we have no interest I have no interest in blaring music while people are dining I don't think our customers and our our our diners would enjoy that so again we have no interest in doing that and I think some of the comments again that we're hearing are about either uh a different establishment one next door or a prior establishment and you know we have like I said if if it's we have zero interest in in having issues with the neighbors and if it is something that that is even perceived at that I don't want to get into situations I know there's other towns that have had issues and it gets ugly that's I have zero interest in that and if that's the case then we stop doing it um we really want it to be enjoyable um I don't think you find restaurants where people are dining with with music as part of the aesthetic that where that music is blaring um a big part of what we're doing is the cuisine and so we want people to enjoy it next yes sir uh my name is Charles horren I live on milpond road with my wife and daughter um I want to thank the members of the select board for allowing us to um address our grievances in this case I'll give you a brief history of the property and question at one point there was no there there nothing was there I don't think anyone figured what they could do with it and took a while somebody finally um uh started a u I think it was a a a a lunch um business and they lasted a short period of time I think there was a little coffee shop in there and of course the blue coral and their requests for live music in Amplified music um I'd like to talk a little bit about the noise level because what Mr Degan is talking about he doesn't really I don't think there's any way to control the noise level um in the summertime uh I'm sure some of you have seen the long lines out the Squire waiting to get in so they can do whatever it is they do around Hotel 10 11 and 12:00 at night and now with the uh new addition to the Squire I'm really uh worried that that's that's a problem that's that hasn't been addressed um usually when when there's some focus on on the music itself I think we miss a little bit um and what I'm saying specifically is the noise level of the patrons you don't have to be um playing a m an instrument or blaring out music for it to affect us us being those of us who live in the neighborhood and a pretty close uh proximity to to uh this site and I think we could all agree that the longer the uh the night goes the louder The Crowd Goes and I think we can figure out what that what that means um Mr Degan I think he's a very shrewd businessman but he hasn't said really too much about this is their exotic menu there's 11 uh original cocktails if you will um which tells me that the the emphasis here is going to be on alcohol assumption this is off their website now this reminds me of my college days long time ago but I this tells me that one of the draws to this particular establishment is going to be alcohol and having fun um point of order Mr chair Mr Degan has a permit for has an alcohol permit I don't think that's the um intention of the discussion fair enough today fair enough yeah I'm not questioning that having a permit doesn't address any of the things that I'm talking about I'm not saying they're doing something illegal if they get if they get uh the permit which I hope they don't but let's be fair to the neighborhood what this looks like feels like sounds like is a request for an open a nightclub well with with all due respect the issue here is noise and and how to control that or not at all yeah and if you could address those those issues I think that would be well I I think I did alcohol all right is part of the problem when you're talking about what's the noise level going to be like I I would say there's a direct correlation between the the amount of alcohol being consumed and uh and the noise level so okay point taken okay so I just want to say that U I consider this to be a request for an open air nightclub which I don't think belongs anywhere near there and my feeling is that this is the wrong business in the wrong place we live in chadam we don't live in Margaritaville which is what this kind of looks like thank you thank you uh Mr de if I may and um you know just just the you know I'm not going to let somebody slander our business and what we've done there I am assuming that you actually never went to our restaurant if you'll address please address the comments this the the name of our restaurant is applia kitchen and Tiki Bar first and foremost kitchen we have some of the the finest chefs on Cape Cod working for us and we are absolutely food forward you chose to ignore the other side of that which had our food menu and we put out some of the best food that you're going to find on Cape cotton Beyond we're incredibly proud of that and no way are we Margaritaville um and you know if people like to have fun in the summertime God bless that's what they're trying to do here um but the idea that we are just there to sling drinks at night we put up the chairs in our dining area to or or get them even there we don't want massive crowds coming in there of people that have been drinking already it is not who we are or nor is it what we want we do everything that we can do to control that and in fact again we have the ability if we wanted to to tack on another hour of operation we don't we want to close it before people um get to a point where they become a problem for us and we have again no interest in dealing with that kind of people thank you Mr oppenheim David oppenheim um my family we own the Mayflower complex um many of you remember when that was built um and we had 29 public hearings before it was finally permitted and a lot of it had to do with noise not restaurants we were restricted against having a restaurant which we went along with um we've had long-term tenants uh there's only been one one change over and long-term residential tenants and all of our apartments are rented a year round to people that live and work in in chadam um I've talked to and just outside recently and just talked to um my tenants to see what their feelings are um I'm a big proponent of business I think what was done uh by by this gentleman the restaurant that's been open everything I've heard about it is excellent um I'm not a judge of food or anything else um but I think you also have to consider the neighborhood um I I often talk to some of the neighbors once in a while we get a complaint there's too much traffic I mean that's what we live with if you choose to live downtown you have to deal with traffic it's the way it is if there weren't traffic people wouldn't be making a living and so I I I don't want to speak negatively about the business or even this proposal in general um I do think when somebody uses the word fearmongering to describe legitimate concerns uh I take issue with that um I take issue with bias I don't have any bias I think people that live there have legitimate concerns based on their experience living in the area um we as as the owners of the property we're always conscious of making sure the shrubs are properly taken care of and if there's any noise complaints usually I know his complaints are coming from abutting businesses especially over some of the big nights that happen Fourth of July weekends um I think there's potentially a reasonable way to do this um I think the applicant mentioned something about a dish jockey maybe I misunderstood I don't think that's a good idea I think potentially daytime music might be something that would be palatable I can tell you that my um tenants the residential tenants I mean all the store the stores at the Mayflower usually close around 9:00 I think people downtown are used to having events I believe we have Mondays on Maine I don't remember the band shut off it's either 8 or 9:00 I don't remember which um and that's around various parts of town I people people enjoy that so I think if you can come up with something and some of my tenants may not generally against this but I have to be consistent and I feel we need to be able to promote businesses in a reasonable way so the idea of non acoustic acoustic music no amplification um the idea I the dis chalky when you start talking about microphones and things like that you're going to increase noise level I think as he said their main interest is creating an atmosphere during the daytime and perhaps into the early evening so I don't know what would be a reasonable cut off time but um I know some of my tenants are working and they they go to bed at 9:00 because they have to be up at 6:30 or 7 to get to work um we as I said we rent all of our apartments on a year- round basis because that's we're committed to doing that and uh not seasonal so these are people that need to have their their sleep but also have have to accept the fact that they live downtown and there will be certain amount of Lo level especially during the season so if you do consider this at all I suggest you put uh very strict requirements on it that it's uh acoustic nonamplified music at all there' be no microphones involved with any sort of thing and that the cut off dat be at what anybody might considerable reasonable hour for people to uh be retire and go to sleep as because we're right next to it there's no protection whatsoever um I'm not comparing it to the Squire that's an animal unto itself we have the Wayside which I forly owned we we had restrictions when we had entertainment licenses so there may be a way for you to do it but I think you have to um again I don't like the word fear-mongering and bias I see no bias or fear mongering to legitimate concerns and and quite frankly that bothers me that that was said um so I think that um if you do do something it should be very restrictive and if it works you know maybe a one-year test and if it works fine and if the hours need to be adjusted they can always be adjusted but I would be very limited to start with to see if it can be friendly for the neighborhood and if it can't it can't thank you thank you um just I I've been going to the the the public here because I don't see any hands raised um online is that there is nobody waiting online not at this time no okay thank you um yes sir just if you could be brief here we have real just uh with regard to um recorded music you know I don't know what people think of a DJ is but uh just playing uh recorded music um we're not exactly so and and actually the the individual that wants to to do that is um involved with one of the businesses here locally he's involved with the Merchants Association so I think he understands this town and understands uh what we would be looking for so just to exclude um um somebody that's going to be playing recorded music um with the idea that some that's some crazy DJ yelling into a microphone that's that's just not what it's going to be that's a that's a misrepresentation so U next sir good evening my name is Joe Ryan I live at 27 shatak which is just at the back of the parking lot behind behind the Squire and um you know we have enjoyed both food and drink at the ply and said hello more than once and uh have them to be respectful neighbors um with respect to the noise there I think there's a few considerations one is it's an environment and it's just not laa and they're going to be able to contain that noise themselves or uh be buffered from the noise coming from the outdoor part of this of The Squire right the noise begins at 7:00 in the morning there with or earlier uh with the utility trucks coming in and the garbage and all of that right um but the Squire uh with the p pandemic I don't know exactly what the rules are but the outside part of the Squire there's a d of noise coming from that and I think they have at least the the ability to play the radio or recordings outside till till 10:00 and they do shut it down but there's a lot of noise and then the you know the parking lot is still active even after they do I think they do shut off alcohol outside at uh at 10: um but my concern would be that in order for laa to be able to play music they're going to have to you know they are right next door to that and for them to have their patrons enjoy the music it's going to have to be uh pretty loud so um you know the other thing I would note is that the application said music all day every day from the license was or the application was for from 10:00 in the morning or sorry noon till 10 o'clock at night and I think that that you know the the prospect of that D of that noise uh consistently during those times s days a week would be more than uh we want as neighbors so thank you Mr Ryan yes sir hello I'm Nini I'm in 475a and I butter to the property and I do enjoy the menu I enjoy the mocktails and enjoy the technology there that's a great aspect of AA I'm glad for the them to have them as a neighbor and as a vegetarian they have great food options but I am very concerned about the noise level living next door and there needs to be restrictions and I think restrictions on amplification and this microphones and that kind of stuff and time limits as well thank you sir um yeah uh Mr Riley U thank you uh I represent the elephant in the room Adam Squire and uh we'd like to say that if we think that we would be entitled to parody in terms of permissions granted for outdoor entertainment uh right now we have a patio where we're not allowed to have outdoor entertainment and we' like to be able to provide it and we think if you're going to give the uh I don't know the name the applier permission to have outdoor entertainment we'd also like to have outdoor entertainment thank you just one question when you say you're not allow have you has the Squire applied for outdoor entertainment no because the the way you guys addressed our patio use we didn't think there was uh much Prospect of that being granted but if appliers is going to have outdoor entertainment right next door to us we'd like to be able to provide whatever they're able to provide so if you say okay you can have acoustic music until 5 a 5:00 P p.m. Well we'd like to be able to do the same thing so whatever you grant we're going to be coming in with an application to do the same thing and we just wanted to let you know that we think fairness uh would dictate uh a result that gave us the same permission that they have thank you thank you okay anybody yeah Mr yeah joeo rules are perhaps you know what the general Mr chair Vice chair this isn't a hearing about the square all right I all right thank you um yes sir I really don't have anything for we'd be happy to you when you fill out the application you want to at least put that out there and if we want to scale back hours that's that's fine days we don't quite know because different musicians are available different days um like I said we are um not looking to create a a major issue here if it's not something that works then then we uh then we move on but I do think um it would be a great a nice aesthetic I do think there are a lot of people that would like to have this and I think our space being enclosed a little bit below is conducive to it thank you let me turn it over to the board uh Mr necastro thank you Mr chairman Mr chairman first I have a question for shaa I think she's on um shaa there there was notification uh from the assessor records for all of Butters within 200 ft is that a bylaw requirement a statutory requirement I wonder where the not it's it's not a requirement it's consistent with the noise bylaw okay distance all right thank you um just a couple of questions of uh Mr Degan if you would yeah so um you indicated uh willingness to truncate the the hours I mean how well let me just throw a a uh some times out you um and I I appreciate what you applied for I understand yeah um nine o'clock 8 o'clock 8 o'clock nine o'clock that's fine by me um it's more agreeable 8 o'clock is fine by me you you talked about um well various folks have and I've read I think others as well I've read every single letter and email that has come in um the um do you have are you set on an amplified music or would you be amenable to just acoustic music so I I guess the only thing is going back to because we have a specific DJ that wants to play recorded music and I don't see how you're able to do that even background music at a restaurant you need to be able to hear so I don't know how um that works in that kind of arrangement um you know a acoustic only um and what kind of how are people able to hear that I don't know Mondays on Main are are is amplification used on the street for any of the performers out there um you know I don't know what levels they're allowed to play to on the street um you know I certainly the it is not going to be a concert venue it's certainly not going to be an outdoor nightclub or anything like that the space really isn't conducive to that there's dining going on so we don't want to blare or or um interrupt people's enjoyment while they're dining um so uh so I I I to answer your question I I don't know how acoustic only people would be able to hear it but I also understand what you're really getting at is um you know you don't want the Amplified music getting too loud and then my question is well let say the musicians at Mondays on Main how are they able to to control the noise levels to be at an acceptable decel so that it's not too loud if it's record if it's recorded music is that played through a speaker I it would have to be it would have to be um H how many um patrons is is your restaurant licensed for do you recall I have to look maybe shaa might know it's in the 60s I believe does that include the bar yeah yeah okay um just one last question um you talked about the connection between this music proposal and I guess I would call it the cultural nature of the restaurant and and I certainly appreciate um the business that you have run in in the town um I remember when you first came before the board for Mom Mom and Pops um is is this proposal however it might be limited um if it's granted um critical to your business model nope I I really we did not seek this out last year I could have come before it's people had interest in it and so we've always we've operated our businesses here you know whether it be um with our truck at Mom and po however it is we've tried to do things that um create a great atmosphere for for people support local um in this case would be local musicians we've supported other local businesses in the past and so people have come to us this is not something that we have uh you know deemed as critical to our business and like I said if it's a problem I'm going to be will to get rid of it because I don't like problems with our business I really don't need it so okay thank you very much yep Sheree thank you Tom I have a question for you just um just a description in your detail of events um you mentioned live artists recorded music and potential cultural performances give an example of that so in um the Filipino culture there actually is kind of like a performance um dance almost and we've talked about um with the the cuisine that we offer one of the um um you know having a a like um roasted pig basically and and there's almost a kind of a celebration around it so um you know organizations have approached us would we be open to having kind of that performance dance with the the music and it's basic you'd have to see it like my wife could describe it a whole lot better but that that's the idea it'd be kind of a cool thing um but that's that's what um that represents I I get the gist of that uh I have a question for sha um if oh yeah there she is uh shaa when we had um another applicant West chadam a dog Fish Cafe come up uh come before us there was a lot of concern about the neighborhood and stuff and I can't remember how we permitted their entertainment license I believe it was certain hours and it was uh it was acoustic am I correct and can you tell me what those hours were it is acoustic music it is however Amplified um not they don't they don't crank it up if you will um but as that is the very uh similar sort of outdoor venue the dog fish taco I believe they restrict their hours to closing at like 8 or 8:30 so it's not um they're just not open late in the evening okay thank you that's helpful thanks H yeah go ahead thanks Mike um Tom was the vision while while folks are dining what what's the what was your vision of what kind of music would be happen while you're dining there so say I arrive there at 600 p.m. I'm here for dinner what kind of music did you want to be have me here that's a good question I nothing um nothing aggressive you know it's I'm thinking this of something that is part of the aesthetic it' be great if you could have jazz or something like that which we're not I mean that would be really cool on a Sunday to have just some nice jazz music there uh in the early afternoon um I get it now with the acoustic and the amplification that is something that yeah I'm not thinking like electric guitars or anything like that I don't want it to be you're sitting here having dinner and somebody's blaring away an electric guitar next to you or something like that so um appropriate music for Cape Cod in our setting I think it would be cool if if we could find somebody doing jazz music I think it'd be cool if it is somebody that's just playing Pleasant music in the background while people are are dining yeah we have to be really cognizant and sensitive to the the surrounds there that's it is tight there and it tight it's very tight area of town and and you know I think we need to be consistent as a board um I I I'm not going to go for amplification to be honest with you so I don't know how the DJ thing would work be honest with you um and if you if we do approve uh you know I would vote for acoustic only and very limited hours I don't know what time you want to start early in the day I mean you know happy hours do you have a happy hour down there or no okay so 4 to8 or 4 to n or something we don't we're not going to open until noon this year so uh but you'll be open at 4: in the afternoon you'll be open at 4 Inno open at 4 I'm talking about you know 4: to 8 or whatever you know 4 I I think it would be nice because you I I we're looking to my preference would be earlier in the day as something that's during the early dining period um so as opposed to something at night that's drawing in big crowds for music that's not what we're looking to do be honest with you the way I read your application it wasn't I wasn't anticipating a DJ per se or having an an amplified system if you will it wasn't what I read and what I understood was that there'd be some you know more appropriate you know Filipino acts and and music and stuff that was kind of fit in with the the Ambiance of the restaurant what you were serving there so that's that's the kind of context I brought to it I didn't I didn't hear I didn't read DJ so that that gives me pause yeah DJ again if you're thinking about a DJ that's on a microphone yelling to a crowd I have no interest in that in a restaurant but if somebody is playing music in the background that's um you know a DJ uh but not somebody that's like taking requests from a something like that's just that's not who we are so those those are my thoughts I mean you know I just you need to be very very senstive people came to us we thought we'd explore it we're exploring it and we want to make it work if it's a thing if it's not it's not exactly we have preceden with Dogfish and with blue coral they they applied few years ago and we said no AC no Acoustics whatsoever I mean no no amplification whatsoever and I think we need to be cons if we're going to do anything thanks yeah I I I would certainly endorse generally what what Jeff and and my other colleagues are saying I I I'm all for the Multicultural aspects of what you're talking about I'm I'm I I I love the idea of attracting younger people younger than you and certainly younger than us um but um I I also want to be sensitive to the concerns of the neighborhood as Jeff says this is a unique spot um and and um we need to be very concerned about that um the the you we're kind of zeroing in a little bit on times um you know you said four I got the impression that's a little tight for you are you trying to hit the lunch crowd it would be to me I think it'd be more enjoyable earlier again we're not when you say attracting younger we're not looking to do to at this something like that we're happy with the demographic that's in this room we I took you at your comment about younger than yourself and I don't know how old you are but younger than yourself we'll leave it at that I I um I think 9:00 8:00 8:00 I'm I'm a lot more comfortable with that um the the one issue here and amplification I think is Out acoustic the only thing that I Stumble a little bit with is the is the notion of um the DJ you know if somebody's just going to come do you do you does the restaurant have a sound system no it so this would be speakers brought in to accomplish that yes as would be the case with a band or whatever yeah we don't have a I mean I I I guess I I'm a little reluctant to to have speakers come in uh specifically for that purpose well if we say like Dogfish I don't know I'm assuming musicians generally bring their own but anytime we've had it Mom and Pops musicians have their own equipment that's just how it works right well I think we're stumbling on amplification generally here so I I'm I'm not sure that we're over the hump on that um one the question if I could shaa is this a one-year thing so that we get a this this in a sense is um uh um experimental to the extent that we Grant anything for a year yes entertainment licenses are on the calendar year basis renewable generally in November okay I I that that I I guess I'm I'm sort of in the neighborhood of if you want to push it a little bit earlier but cut it off at 8 acoustic only no amplification and see where we are a year from now is kind of where I am so moved I'll second that all right any further conversation there's an a gentleman who spoken before I don't know if you want to recognize him all right we we'll we'll let you have two minutes sir you need to come to the microphone I feel like something's missing here my house is maybe a 100 yards from this U proposal and I know that um there's someone who lives literally um if this is the end of laaya the boundary is maybe closer than than that um Podium and I it doesn't seem like it's getting uh the attention it deserves can you imagine 60 people or more packed into that space with uh music blaring okay the the the issue here is is is noise only music only the the number of people is beside the point well it has to do with the noise doesn't it number of people we considering is an entertainment license right right and we're saying as neighbors we're saying well wait a minute have you considered this have you considered this have you considered this and to be honest with you everything that comes up Mr Degan seems to have an answer for but I can tell you that the blue the blue coral had problems like that and I have one one more question what is the bylaw somebody mentioned the bylaw earlier for the distance before you can complain and uh and something will will happen what's the distance I think it's is it it's 200 ft I think isn't it well there's one that's mentioned in the the town I guess the bylaws peace and good something or other and I think it's 150 feet is that right yes that's correct sorry 150 feet is not very far and so that means if if the noise level passes 150 ft I can call who the police or you know talk to the manager of the laaya we had this problem speak to the the you can speak to the management you can speak to the police and then what the complaint will be investigated and dealt with as as is appropriate well that could that could be a lot of uh complaints because we're not talking about very far distance and I still can't believe somebody hasn't decided that with 60 people in the room people drinking the outdoor atmosphere and there's no consideration to that we've heard you thank you thank you thank you okay uh Mr Degan and then then we're gonna I um just to offer it up to any neighbors and and I'd be happy to speak with anybody on an individual or group basis to talk about any concerns outside of this like I said we're good neighbors where we operate um if it's a problem you know this is not something that we are going to close up shop if we don't get it we're fine one way or another uh just thought it was a nice aesthetic and we thought we' be supporting local musicians and thank you there there's one other speaker yes sir hi um I'm James Flashman I live at 14 mil pond so I literally a butt right up to the property I thought you were really professional last summer um uh respectful at the same time I mean we can literally hear the the silverware clinking and the dishes uh so I can't see how any Amplified music would work out um if he was going to want to go for an early setting I think 5:00 p.m. would be the cut off line you know he could do a lunch um music at lunchtime um you know I want to see you succeed but um it it's just it's such a small area and it is very close it doesn't take much for I can hear your music um played over the radio so um and I know you're not playing it loud It's still just present um so that's kind of how I feel about it the the noise is an issue and um by as okayy thank you any any further Mr chair so we we didn't discuss a start time for allowing I I I thought we said four o'clock no well actually I was too I I I did say three or four you're right thank you don't just throw in the the days of the week right seven days a week per it is at the moment the the the the the the motion is seven days a week yes yes sir so there's a motion on the table but I want to speak to the motion so I I thought I heard Mr Degan say 5:00 as a as a shut shut off time yeah I mean but I thought if so we applied it to start at noon um because that's when we open I think uh you know I don't think noon is too early um personally uh if one is better one to five but um I guess I I just really wouldn't think noon was an issue um what was that the last thing but yeah so could I Mr chairman could I just since people have talked about later hours I'd like to get a sense I don't know if people want to raise their hands that are I know that's not totally representative the neighborhood but I'd like to know if 5:00 is acceptable for those that were pretty concerned about a later time is anybody willing to is that a only yes I'm talking acoustic i' be no Acoustics and no um no DJ basically excuse me anybody anybody opposed to a 5:00 anybody opposed to a 5:00 I'm oppos seven days a week yes are there days so you put seven days a week on an application um I guess my question is is there what days are better than other days I might want to listen to my own music so I don't really want to hear it seven days point of chair through the vice chair pleas I guess we I I apologize I just wanted to get a sense of the audience I I am concerned about setting a precedent for that General location because we heard from a direct neighbor who said they're going to come in with a request of their own uh for their open outside area and that does concern me um 5:00 Mr degan's very generous to offer that uh certainly is is more acceptable at least as a trial for the for a year um well this is a really hard one it it's hard but let me let me come back and and and take up the issue of days of the week if if are are there days of the week short of seven days a week that that are that that would be that you think you could make work and and this is really about you know satisfying your customers and perhaps some competition elements yeah um and and the question is is every day of the week the same as every day H we were not exactly thinking of doing something every day of the week we have a DJ that has reached out for sure and other musicians that are but we don't have anything that is concrete around the days me personally I kind of think a Sunday is nice with some music with dinner um or lunch that's kind of a cool thing to have for a place um you know during the week might be nice just because if if it is a way um for people to come in and you know maybe it's just a a way in the summer days when people might be at the beach or something like that um but other than a Sunday I'm not exactly wedded to any one particular day frankly on on other days when it's busier I would sort of almost prefer not to do the music because I don't want it to be too much um so can can you give us three or four days a week that you would like to have the option to you to to do it one to five acoustic only yeah how about I mean a Sunday if that's okay I mean I wouldn't want to do it on a Friday you've got the band concert a Saturday is too much as it is um maybe a Sunday Thursday or Wednesday you know Thurday something Sunday Wednesday Monday Wednesday something like that okay Mr chairman I would like to withdraw my motion go ahead I would like to have i' would like to move that um we Grant the entertainment permit for Sunday uh what' you say Wednesday Sunday Wednesday Thursday Wednesday th Sunday Wednesday Thursday 1 to five acoustic second any further discussion on the board all those in favor Mr necastro I'm going to vote Yes but I would make the note that if anyone else comes in for an application that's a neighbor they're going to be subject to the same restrictions uh Miss Davis yes I yeah I and Mr Shell says I um we're done Tom good luck thank you take care good luck thank you we're just going to take a moment un let the audience clears out oh I don't know I don't know but he was a pain in the ass and plus you know I'm glad I didn't say it but what Dean's worried about is they're not coming folks if we get just take the conversations outside into the uh hallway please oh yeah oh yeah oh oh yeah and not only that there was a whole well it was the planning board that's that really gentlemen we still have a meeting to cond thank you very all right as the room is clearing out we're going to move on to public comments on our business agenda since the majority of our in-house audience has vacated the room um is there any public comments on our business agenda this evening from our in-house audience is there anyone online with a comment on our business business agenda this evening I don't see any none at this time none at this time okay business agenda item a consider utility license requests for 240 George Ryder Road and zero bikeways which is off of George Ryder Road for a Verizon uh no public hearing is required uh I know the representative was not available tonight uh we when I made the decision that we could put this on uh to consider um if the board um is comfortable with it we can move it forward if there's any major questions we can always continue it so I will open up to the board for any questions or comments Mr chairman yes please this is very straightforward I move that we approve the uh application this is basically to place uh some um utility polls on Town property associated with the bike path on um either side of the of George Rider Road second all right we have a motion we have a second further discussion all those in favor select board member NE Castro hi selectboard member Davis Hi selectboard member dyens hi selectboard member shell hi and select board member met says I Item B consider committee name change the Railroad Museum working group to Railroad Museum committee um Mr chair I see that Terry whan who's the staff leaz on to the railroad museum working group and I believe Gil is on who is the chair good evening guys gentlemen we cannot hear you yeah this is Gil Sparks I'll just say that our group U is presently and has been for some years subject to all the requirements uh of a town committee we have get selected by the select board after interviewing we take the ethics t um and it just seemed appropriate that and we work hard it just seemed appropriate that we' be given the same status as the rest of the Town committees uh and our group did request that the select court at its convenience uh take up the matter it's a it's obviously not a a critical thing but I I think it's appropriate and would ask that be given a favorable consideration all right thank you very much questions from the board uh Dean thank you I don't mean to jump ahead of Terry if he had anything to say and we have a very extensive memo I'm the leaon from the select board to the rail rad Museum working group um which is um u a name that um doesn't really have much uh currency given that they've been around for working quote for a long long time and uh it's under very Dynamic leadership right now with guil Sparks and Liz McCart as many of us attended the um uh First Night opening the last couple of years and um they've um expanded their their openings into um the fall um they now have heat in the building thanks to the town and um so this is really um acknowledging that they indeed are a committee of the town and I I greatly support um this name change to the chadam railroad museum group I'm sorry committee committee and I so move second second further discussion all those in favor select board member nicastro I select board member Davis I select board member dykens I selectboard member shell I and selectboard member met says I next consider special one- day alcohol permits we have first the creative art center at 154 CW Road for uh request for May 5th 2024 from 4 to 5:30 p.m. June 2nd 2024 from 4: to 5:30 p.m. July 14th 2024 from 4: to 5:30 p.m. September 8 2024 from 4: to 5:30 p.m. and July 28 2024 from 6:00 to 8:30 p.m. Mr chair yes please I move to Grant four special one-day alcohol permits for wine and Malt Beverages only to Amy Middleton of the chadam creative arts center located at 154 Crow Road on the following dates May 5th 24 June 2nd 24 July 14th 24 and September 8th 24 from 400 to 5:00 p.m. I move to Grant one special one-day alcohol permit for all alcoholic es to Amy Middleton of the C chadam Creative Arts Center located at 154 CW Road on July 28th 24 from 6:00 to 8:30 okay second second Mr chair yeah I go ahead Jill just to correct and for the the correction to the end time at 5:30 from 4 to 5:30 p.m. uh for September 8 I'm sorry yeah for September 4 to 5:30 sorry y SE the four special one day oh it's correct in the memo it was just I just I misread got lost in yes first May 5th June 2nd July 14th September 8th they're all four to 5 yes they are y y mhm y okay I think we have a second mov second okay we have a second are we we're clear we're good we're good all right uh motion a second all those in favor select for member NE Castro I select member Davis I select member Dy iect member shell I and select board member Mets as I um we have a series of one day alcohol one day alcohol permits request for chadow Historical Society at the atw Atwood museum at 347 stage Harbor Road um I'll entertain a motion Mr chairman I move to Grant um seven special one-day alcohol permits for wine and beverage only to Kevin Wright of the chadam Historical Society located at the Atwood Museum on 347 stage Harbor Road on the following dates June 6 June 13 June 20 July 25 August 8 August 22 and August 29 2024 from 6 to 8:00 p.m. and then there's a few well I I I was there's a second motion here I I we can do it all right I further move to Grant three one- day three one three special one-day alcohol permits for all alcoholic beverages to Kevin Wright of the chadam Historical Society located at the Atwood Museum on 347 stage Harbor Road on the following dates July 11 and July 18 2024 from 6:00 to 8:00 p.m. and July 133 2024 from 5: to 7:30 p.m. 5 5 or 5:30 30 at 5:30 my notes Kevin's here um July 13th it's five on the application okay that was for our evening remember actually just go to the podium please yeah there seemed to be a little bit of confusion about July 13th that was for our evening to remember uh annual Gala um and I'm not sure if kaatha received our actual um application for that so I thought she had but I think so for the for the one day alcohol permit the start time should be 5 or 5:30 for the application 5:00 5 to 7:30 p.m. so the motion was correct thank you the motion July say that again July 13th from 5: to 7:30 5 p.m. to 7:30 p.m. for the um one day alcohol one day alcohol the confusion was on the entertainment which is the next we're going to deal with in a moment y all right perfect so we have a motion we have a second I think we're clear on the time so all those in favor I have a question yes please the um the one for the um sorry July 13th so who who is managing the the bar it doesn't say uh that's uh we have um W is going to come in actually they're doing yes okay all right thank you I all right sler member uh Davis i s member dyens I sler member shell I and S member matter says I next is uh consider special one day entertainment licenses for the Chad Historical Society at the atwt museum at 347 stage Harbor Road and this one we have the question of July 13th it was not listed in it hasn't submitted in it it was kind of an oversight I think procedurally I think the board has a discretion to add this tonight it was just kind of an oversight in the in the the the printing um because it's the one day doesn't correspond with all the other one day alcohol licenses so I'm I'm reasonable in making that Amendment so that's July 13 5 to 7:30 p.m. correct to code match with the the the one day alcohol licenses that that we just acted on Mr chair I mov to Grant the special one day entertainment licenses for live and Amplified Music Inside the mural Barn at Atwood Museum on June 6 June 13th June 20th July 25th August 8th August 22nd and August 29th 2024 from 6:30 to 8:00 p.m. and on the lawn at the Atwood Museum on July 11th and 18th 6 to 8 and for July 13th that would be under the 10th or it's under the 10th all the outdoor are under attend and it's more background music on including July 13th from 5: to 7:30 p.m. all right second second I have a question further discussion y Kevin did um you've done the outdoors one in the past have yeah last year was the first year we did one outdoor one it was an evening of jazz we've added a blue grass um bash this year did you have any um concerns from Neighbors uh we didn't hear of any concerns so we you know we we try to keep it we we try not to get like you know heavy metal so um pretty much it's good I right select board member Davis I select board member dy I select board member shell I and select board member met says I good luck thank you thank you very much next consider memorandum of understanding mou between the cape light Compact and town of chadam for a part-time energy manager position share with the towns of Brewster East ham and Orleans thank you Mr chair so the town of Brewster for the past three years has partnered with the cape light compact on having a part-time person who has the title of energy manager and it's worked out very successfully and so uh both Brewster and Cape light compact executive director had reached out to the towns of chadam Orleans and East Ham in addition to Brewster to ask want to join to have a shared part-time energy manager this person would serve in each of our towns one day a week and the the amount of time would be about 7 and a half hours per day they could work uh within a town office or with the permission of the Town Manager work remotely and it's a really interesting con concept because many of us are doing the same type of programs and so uh this uh person would be working um on items such as our our solar and solar storage projects some of behind the scenes some of the monitoring uh some of the reporting that's required and also promoting uh each Town's energy um energy programs and also um what I felt was really important for us is the ability to apply for Grants and that's something that they're looking to um have as a primary work uh work I Focus for that person we always we also work um all of us are Green community so there's reporting um there's grants that could be uh applied to us and also monitoring our mass energy Insight which is our tracking our energy usage and creating reports so a lot of administrative work and then in addition looking at our electric vehicle charging infrastructure um this is something that we had talked about a policy will be forthcoming to the board I think within the next two meeting meetings but also having someone with some expertise of working with the charging Services providers and being able to get reports Monitor and make sure that there's compliance so there's a lot more uh to be done but certainly we thought this was a really great first step for us um as a pilot program for chadam and very successful in Brewster Orleans and Brewster have already approved theou are waiting for East ham uh they were looking forward to have at least two towns approve it before before they do the recruitment and the person would be a a a capik compact employee with Benefits provided by them and the fiscal impact for each town is exactly the same and that would be $427 uh per week for 7 and a half hours and I expect it not to exceed 14,000 for chadam through December 31st 2024 all right questions or comments from the board Jeff yeah chill um I I think it's great to share I think it makes a lot of sense when you can do it regionally and is this person already hired at capik Compact and have we has he or she been anointed or or appointed or do we have the benefit of interview etc etc yeah so no the person who had the position has since left um they they did a lot of great work so they're looking to advertise for the position and the town managers will have input into that as well but the the position was in Brewster last year for a couple years now and that person has since left yes okay all right right so we'll be doing a little search or whatever or kly compact would be doing the yeah they'll be handling um all the recruitment again having the town managers involved for interviews because they will be in our the person will be in our town just a quick question on the person that held that position in Brewster were they certified were they an engineer do they the kind of background that that we need I I don't know but I I would presume brers has been very successful with their program so I would imagine that person had a certain level of expertise um we've used the cape light compact help us with our uh Green community reports too so they they definitely have someone to Mentor if someone is newer to the profession but um they're well experienced with it and want to understand what are are the qualifications that we need one other quick followup the person reports to whom Capel compact it would be to me the town manager okay so but kind of Matrix because they're going to be an employee of the cape light they're employee of the cape light compact okay so locally they report to you but the cape light would be directing them or you'd be directing them here in chadam um I think we from what I understand I believe that the Brewster Town Administrator had directed them but again they have certain reporting requirements back to their employer cap light compact so we've it's been a successful model it's just that we haven't participated so um so those questions all can be fine-tuned and asked and again this mou does expire on December 31st 2024 if you want to continue we can certainly extend it and I'm I'm sure the person who ever gets hired will understand it's it's technically a grant-funded position but we're the ones providing the funding we you've you've already got the funds I do and so thank you for asking about that so um in chatt we made a conscious effort so any of the revenues that come in from any of our solar or green energy projects go to the general fund other towns have it Go specifically to offset Staffing we haven't set that up yet so I do have the Consulting and Engineering account and this would be pretty much a consultant for one day a week and I was going to have it come out of that account thank you chill I like the fact that we're sharing resources thanks um I just have a couple of questions and I I endorse the idea of sharing resources as Jeff just said um I'm looking at the memorandum of understanding so this person is referred to as the cadams as the town of chadam energy manager that's how they prop osed it but each town this person would be the energy manager as a title in each Town understanding it's it's one day a week and they felt it was a a competitive title title to get someone who was higher level I and I appreciate the description of Duties it's the it's the the term man manager that causes me to ask this question what is the authority of this person can is this person going to can this person adopt or impose um energy or initiatives upon the town or or is it is it implementing initiatives that have been approved by the town yeah implementing those or doing research for future initiatives I would consider it probably um a staff level position maybe something of like how Terry whan is is able to research and plan and provide recommendations but the person wouldn't self-direct themselves to implo implement any of the policies so they would programs conceivably provide recommendations to Terry or to you yes uh and if they required approval by the board You' come to us yes um the um is it also says that this person would provide staff support to the energy and climate action committee is is that in substitution of Terry's role as the Lee ason uh no actually I'm not having that person this is the same uh scope of work for all of the towns okay for us I I didn't feel that that would give us the most bank for the buck we we already have four staff Liaisons to that committee right now but certainly if they're looking at a new initiative this person could help do the the research in the plan so this would be complimentary to the work of the other staff yes okay all right thank you yeah well you've you you've anticipated one of my questions which is the just it's not a question it's a it's an observation that with all of the things that this person is supposedly going to do there probably going to have to be some prioritization of what they're doing for us in their seven and a half days a seven and a half hours a week um and that's just a comment and I'm sure you're on top of that the one thing that I did want to ask about is um in terms of grant writing and solicitation I see a potential for conflict among the among the towns and and I I I don't I guess I'll say is there a process or do you anticipate looking at the question of dealing with the possibility that um we're uh two or more towns are looking for the same money or the the the money for the same kind of project where this person has a kind of a split loyalty I think that the the town manager will be in contact with each other regardless if this person put forward the grand application we're still competing against other towns I think this provides a better opportunity for like a regional program or shared programs um if we're looking at policy development um I'm just trying to think of like particular to to chadam a lot of our green energy work has been on more of the infrastructure replacement but I'm sure there's an education component that we can go for so we're the fourtown managers are pretty competitive as well so I think that we'll try to work if we have to do something that's going to carve out then we'll use our own staff people but I don't think that this will compete I think if anything it will give us just a step closer to some Regional programs we can do together thank you further questions I mean you're essentially saying this is this is a grant funded program for the most part yes with the town's providing the grant funds so I mean I I I'm open to trying it I mean if it goes until December 2024 We have basically a short window to assess it we have basically less than a year um you know I'm not I'm I'm supportive of trying to collectively pull our resources between other communities to to get the same work done um I just hope that you know 7 and a half hour work week per town can keep that person focused in an efficient manner but um I'm open to giving it a try so I'll entertain a motion move to approve second second all right further discussion all those in favor select member de Castro I select member Davis I select board member dykens I select board member shell I and select board member met says I uh last item of our evening is the town managers monthly report for the month of February 2024 thank you m Mr chair um we were able to get the annual town meeting warrant posted today and it's at the printers so I want to to shout out to everyone but in particular to Kathy and shaa they just did a really great job this is Kathy's first ever warrant behind the scenes versus just going to a town meeting and voting so she got to see how the sausage was made and certainly has some ideas for moving forward so I'm very excited about that uh the Warren is posted on the website as well as a scorecard people want to follow along um at town meeting they can certainly print that out and we'll have that available so we have 47 articles and town meeting just as a reminder it's on May 13th and it starts at 6 pm at the monoy Regional Middle School and child care will be provided the warrant cover has information on how to reserve make a reservation for child care and uh certainly um more inform will come information will come out with shaa promoting the event we ALS oh did you have nope I didn't thought there was a question nope okay uh we also have years of service anniversaries for our team chadam for April we have Steve lenworth who many of you know from the transfer station as a heavy equipment operator for 29 years Sergeant Bill Massie for 19 years Melanie Taylor Taylor in the assessor's office for seven years uh Christopher I always get his name santowski um you see him at the transfer station he's been here for six years our own chadam TV Mark Van Bor as our media coordinator has been here for six years and Toby uh telis manic is our facilities tech technician and he's been here for 5 years as I I noted uh before uh Happy retirement to Harvard Master Stewart Smith and so again we're going to have his last coffee uh this coming Friday on the 29th at 10: a.m. here at the annex also uh I try to highlight uh chadam TV um Productions and they're doing a really cool series with um the council and aging Center for AC of living so there's a must C TV it's seaf fairing stories and I know we got requests from some um Community uh our community channel so not our Public Access Channel but another channel uh through local government to also um air this so it is available on our YouTube channel and we can get it um from our town website then the tree removal at Eldridge Public Library is happening it's Wednesday the 27th weather permitting we'll have police details and the horse chestnut tree uh will be cut into 4 foot sections and donated to the Friends of trees for repurposing so uh the DPW has been very involved and thanks to our deputy director Tom bar for getting us to this point Jill yes and so friends of trees are going to where's the wood going to go I mean we talked about saving the wood or the friend of trees making some recommendations do we have a plan on that yet so what I was told is that the wood isn't the type of wood that we can make benches out of and I think they were thinking of something smaller I had heard some talk about wood bows but I'm I'm not quite sure I can certainly follow up with with the team to I would love to hear if there's an artist Outreach or call call to artists if if that's the case but that doesn't speak to where the wood's going to be stored in the interim I'll check and I'll rep back okay thank you thank yeah Community survey uh community housing survey for the housing production plan uh that's live for people to respond to and it's available through Sunday April 14th and the housing production plan I'm sorry the the survey could be accessed through the housing page on our town website and um again the the the usual but not so usual information about town departments if you have any questions I'd be happy to answer questions or comments from the board no no again I love these reports it's it's a very important tool for us in all sincerity so entertain a motion to adjourn so moved second second all those in favor select member NE Castro hi select member Davis I member Dyk I select board member shell I and select board member met says I good night everyone [Music] [Music]