##VIDEO ID:U2ZBmlAhjrk## questions are allowed but public comment is not allowed if you wish to ask a question please fill out a comment card and hand that card to a deputy your participation is welcomed and appreciated so this meeting is going to go um a little different than normal where we'll have our Workshop where we will review our draft agenda um we'll have a presentation on Civics and ESC Services um but at 10 o'clock no matter where we are in that agenda we're going to recess from our Workshop open the special meeting um to take care of a vote that we need to make and um then we'll return back to our agenda Workshop all right so Mr rosi oh I'm sorry yes Miss Hansen is joining us by phone Miss Hansen can you hear us she oh is that muted she may be she muted herself Miss Hansen can you hear us yes can you hear me we can hear you okay thank you m gon yeah thank you all right Mr bosy the floor is yours okay so so on top of all of that um we have really three items that we need to to do here today and then as Miss Gil pointed out there's a storm coming and so i' appreciate the meeting ending before noon Emergency Management is meeting at that time to discuss on that particular issue so I'm just trying to set parameters uh here this morning morning so I want to take the liberty of kind of switching up the order if we could first um first up is our Civics program presentation we have Mary Owen here uh talking about social Tres in Clay County while she sets up just kind of uh U kind of tell a little story to the board which is if you remember we did this for reading and one of the things that I heard from the majority of the board was they appreciated hearing the things that were happening in our schools provided greater conf context for what was going on this way when constituents would call you and talk to you about various things in school you would know this information and be able to highlight it a little bit better also good for people that may be watching this uh that are from the public who hear those kinds of things because one of the things that I occasionally hear is that hey we should do more patriotic things in schools and you know you're talking to a guy that lives and breeds that all the time and so kind of explaining that what we actually are doing in schools and and our success with this would be important so I'm going to turn it over to Mary and then she'll answer any questions right after this Bri presentation thank you um I'm really excited to be here this morning to share some of the great things that are happening um in our social studies world and what better time to do that than Founders week um right in the middle of that it's great um so like Mr brosy mentioned my name is Mary Owen and I am the K12 social studies specialist and um I've been in this role for the past 3 years years and before that was a part of the um District social studies team as a coach and before that I taught Civics for um many many years at Lakeside Junior High School um our K12 social studies team um consists of myself and one other coach uh Stephanie Navaro and together we support all of our elementary junior high and high schools so in order to continue leading the state um in Social cities education and to increase achievement social studies um we have to be very intentional about our goals and how we're going to um continue leading social studies um in in the state and so we have three social studies priorities um and we'll talk a little bit more um in depth about each of them um throughout my time but um just to kind of give you a brief overview they're all rooted in intentionality so our uh priorities all coincide in align with um our district um vision and our district focus of being really intentional um and so we do that by um supporting our teachers when intentionally planning lessons and tasks and assessments that are aligned and rooted in our benchmarks um and we do that also by um sharing um resources to help engage our students um in the learning and the doing of social studies in social studies there are a lot of um um opportunities for our students to read for our students to uh write speak and listen those are all the four elements of literacy and as social studies Educators um we are also reading teachers as well um and then um our final priority is intentionally cultivating Civics engagement so really pushing and and um encouraging Civic mindedness in our students so um these are our priorities we want to talk a little bit about how we get there so we're going to focus on the first one intentionally planning Benchmark line tasks and assessments so we want our teachers to um make sure that the lessons and the assessments that they're creating are rooted in the benchmarks they've got to have curriculum support and so um Stephanie and I um create our curriculum guides our pacing guides um for our teachers and we update those every year um to align with um our teachers needs and to align with new uh Florida Department of Education updates like for example personal finance and money management is a brand new course um and so I had the opportunity to go to a training over the summer with the state and came back and was able to use that information to uh create our new curriculum guide for um for that course and you guys also in your folders that uh believe Kelly passed out um have a sample curriculum guide for civic um it's actually one unit from um our Civics curriculum guide but you can kind of see how all of those are set up we provide um obviously the benchmarks and key vocabulary we also include um vetted resources for our teachers to use um as well as pacing um we do include teacher tips and um just based on teachers um experience in the classroom um with all of our different content areas we also include misconceptions that students might have just based on their own experience and how to address that we also uh survey our teachers every year um to we want to make sure because this is their tool that this is aligned with what they need as Educators so we survey them at the end of the year and we also bring together a committee of teachers um to help us update if necessary those curriculum guides and in addition to curriculum support we also um in Social Studies have a lot of required instruction that is um statutorily mandated um and so here is an example um just kind of an overview of all of the many uh required instruction recognitions that we have in social studies throughout the year um September is pretty heavy and uh we'll do a September recap uh towards the end so you can kind of see what our students um are doing and engaging in in social studies this month so um for required instruction Stephanie and I curate and vet many resources and lesson plans and create many lesson plans to share with our teachers and uh really we just want to make sure that our teachers feel com comfortable and confident in teaching to the requirements of that statute um and so we create hyperdocs these are a couple of examples for Hispanic Heritage Month Asian-American Pacific Islander History Month um and all of our um monthly recognitions include a hyperdoc that has resources that has information about the statute um and background about that recognition um that is shared with teachers and administrators all right so looking at our second um PRI intentionally engaging students in evidence-based practices so um that curriculum support is great it's extremely helpful for our teachers but we can't just give them the curriculum guide and then walk away so we um support our teachers um in a variety of ways so one way we do that is by providing individual and team-based coaching support um so that might look like us sitting side by side with a teacher and lesson planning or um doing a lesson reflection on a previous lesson um it might include us um modeling the lesson or um also taking a teacher to an experienced classroom um teacher to visit them doing those strategies um as well and we also team up with our administrators um who are over social studies and we talk about the needs of their school and their team um and we work with them to create um professional learning around their their school Improvement goals so this is an example of last week we were at um oaklea Junior High and we were working with their social studies team around increasing engagement in their classrooms in addition to that we also provide professional Learning Community or PLC support so um Stephanie and I have actually um intentionally identified one Junior High and one high school a piece um that we are going to that we support each quarter um and so every other week during PLC time we are there side by side to help um guide that team through these key questions this PLC cycle and we also provide a lot of professional learning opportunities throughout the year um we actually have one happening right now um that Stephanie is at so um we this is one of our favorite things to prepare and plan for is when we get to see all of our teachers in one space um and learning from each other um and everything that we provider teachers is all rooted back in the one clay Vision everything comes back to that we also collaborate very closely with our partners at the Florida Department of Education um especially our Civics Regional coaches um and they have come out we've invited them to um share information at our collaboratives with our teachers and Civics um and they've also recently reached out and requested that um I share uh our curriculum or pacing guide for civics to use as a model for other districts and you said no right no I did ask permission first I ask permission first no it's good to share right it is sharing is caring right all right and um we also want to make sure that we're increasing rigor and engagement in our non-tested areas so um a lot of our courses um even sixth grade world history um seventh grade uh US history and 10th grade world history there are a lot of topics that overlap and kind of lay a foundation for our tested areas and so we really are modeling um kind of what we want to see in our tested areas with those groups as well so we're extremely proud of our Civics and US history teachers but we don't want the onus to kind of fall solely on them and so if we can um increase that rigor and get our students exposed to thank you get our students exposed to the type of um EOC style questions that they're going to see um or get them exposed in um digging into primary sources and doing analysis of images um we really um are kind of modeling that that's the expectation for all content areas in social studies so on a screen is an example of um a um a test question that Civic students may see on their EOC um and this question is a higher order question it requires multiple steps it's not just a yes a no or a true or false or matching um it requires digging into this exer from a primary source and then applying their inform applying their understanding to it so um and you also have a couple of other examples in your folder on the right side if you'd like to look at those um but what we've done is we want to make sure that the first time our students see questions like this is not on the EOC so we have created little formative checks three to five questions for our benchmarks that look just like this that are styled after the EOC our sixth grade world history our Middle School US history and our 10th grade uh world history have these as well so once again we're trying to model that expectation so that our students don't get to a tested class and this is the first time they're seeing those questions we also want to um ensure that they are like I said digging into all the skills necessary um to be strong social studies students um and a big part of that is diving into primary sources um and analyzing um secondary and primary sources so one way we do that is through document based questions or DBQ um we have dbqs starting in fourth grade um and basically students are given kind of an overarching guiding question and they're given resources of primary sources charts um images and they are required to dig into those sources and really um it builds their critical thinking um we're teaching them you know how to think critically by digging into each of those sources to answer that um that guiding question all right and our final priority um you know as a former Civics teacher I know this is um so near and dear to my heart in cultivating Civics engagement and our students um and so we are so lucky that we live in a county with a lot of great local government Partners who are willing to um support that same goal they sharing that same commitment to engage our students so the clerk of courts um for one is extremely helpful we um Mary Justino and I talk very frequently um about all of the ways that we can collaborate to uh support our students and our teachers so um just last week Clerk Green came to Rich High school and spoke to some government students about the sixth amendment and the clerk's role um the Clerk of Court's role in our uh local government as well and um last year we actually had the opportunity to um go alongside some criminal justice students at Clay High School to sit in on the Fifth District Court of Appeals oral arguments and so after that um our students actually had the opportunity to ask the panel of Judges questions and the attorneys who were there as well so it was a great learning experience for them yes very cool and in addition to supporting our um students the clerk of courts also um we team up with them every inservice day and they provide an inservice day session where our teachers get to go and explore the historic triangle they also get to explore the courthouse and have a question and answer session with um one of our judges um to kind of learn a little bit more about uh some of the landmark Supreme Court cases that their students are going to be tested on and the clay archives which is a part of the um Clerk of Courts um is also a tremendous help especially in creating um and creating primary and secondary sources related to local history so the end of May we designate that final week as clay history week um and actually the Border County Commissioners dedicates the whole month um they Proclaim it clay history month and so I have had the opportunity the last couple of years to go to the board of County Commissioners meeting and speak on behalf of the district about our collaboration with the clerk of courts in the clay archives um when they um announc the proclamation for clay history month so that's been very exciting and um vishy gar who is from the um Clerk of or the clay archives has also given us tremendous like a wealth of resources U dedicated to Clay history where we have combined them and put them into a DBQ for our history students so during that last week of May during clay history week they're digging in once again thinking critically um going through some resources to determine what had the greatest impact on Klay County's development there's no right or wrong answer it's just what students are able to pull from those resources and something else that we have in the works too is this display so um in oaklea long time ago there was actually a um Blue Angel training field um where o in Phase One amenity Center um is today um so it was a Blue Angel training field and through the work of the clay archives they've uncovered quite a bit of um sources primary sources images um and just some background to the importance of that training ground and so this um display which is all about the Blue Angels and its impact and local history at oakave um is going to be at leave High School the week the Blue Angels are in town um and so students in the Aeronautics program ROTC and social study students will have the opportunity to um visit that display and fingers crossed and am Mar Justino is in the process of hopefully trying to um recruit either a pilot or um a representative from the Blue Angels while they're in town to speak to um our students so like I said fing that have yeah right and we also team up very closely with the clay supervisor of elections so um in our US history and government classes once again by State Statute there are some requirements when it comes to elections and that includes students um learning how to use and what is the um uniform um election ballot the primary and general election ballot and so we have Incorporated this into our curriculum around the time of Voters Registration day the national day and so this this is where you'll see a lot of um schools um all of our schools actually teaming up with the clay supervisors of election to hold a voters registration Drive um I think there's some happening today and tomorrow um usually it's the last week of September um so here are some examples from last year Rich View High School Orange Park High School um and like I said they come to all of our schools we have a very close collaboration with them and um encourage our students to go ahead and register or pre-register to vote and we are also teaming up with them as well in double click democracy to hold a mock presidential election this year we already have a lot of schools that are um signed up to take part in that and the clay supervisor of elections is going to um donate I voted stickers so we can give those to our students yes ma'am is this only during lunch so it is up to each school to decide um some schools will do it during lunch some schools will um host something in the media center um it is a collaboration between the school leaders the teachers and student leaders to kind of determine what that's going to look like on their campus so kind of the the standard expectation is that um the supervisor of elections is on campus and encouraging there's announcements you know signs they have a booth up um but some schools go a little bit above and beyond yes with with resources so um I just have a suggestion H if anyone cares but um I had talked to um or I had um was present at a presentation that they put on and I know I talked to Mr brosi about this as well as getting them um very active in our schools I know we have the partnership and I know that we've done stuff in the past but I think um I think the message was we needed to do more than just a cafeteria so like the media center um because they need more time and they want to contact our more of our student base and um they only have a certain amount of time to stand in line eat and then are they going to actually go up there and speak because now they have time to speak to their their friends and whatnot right so I guess um maybe in the future thinking outside of the lunchroom because I I that was the message I was getting that if we wanted to actually make change and get early voting or get getting people registered to vote and understanding the process right they needed more time than just the cafeteria absolutely I completely completely understand and so that might be something for next year for us to talk with leaders about to because um that's definitely going to be a kind of a school-based decision on how that is going to look logistically on campus but um I definitely um agree and we'll share that thank you thank you thank you all right and so we probably seen this this uh graphic a few times um since since June um but we are so proud to say that in seventh grade um our seventh grade civics uh students ranked first in the entire State um US History which is 11th grade ranked fourth overall and overall combined social studies is second um but you know these this these numbers are great but let's dive a little deeper into the data that that is giving us those numbers so in social studies through Civics um our overall proficiency was 14 points above the state and uh US History was 13 points above the state this past year and over the three years we see we were consistently um growing and um we're consistently above the state and we've had a lot of schools including schools that um are already high performing making significant gains as well and so looking at our sub group um performance for civics um our black and African-American and students with disability subgroup it's 19 points above the state average once again um you know that's to a lot of support and collaboration between the ESC team and our team as well um and then our El our esol population 37 points above the state average wow and US history looks very similar 20 points above 22 and then 40 points above points yes so we know with continued collaboration with our ESC team with our Esau team that those numbers are going to continue to grow all right so just a quick September recap um like I said September is full of required instruction um and so we um first we got 911 Heroes today and we were really excited to see um just how many of our students and staff wore red white and blue to show their patriotism that day um and so in Civics and government um they are statutorily required to um have at least 45 minutes of instruction around 911 um they actually have a brand new Benchmark um that is new this year that is all related and tied to 911 so Stephanie and I um went there and we created um some age appropriate lessons to um kind of readymade lessons to share with our teachers um because I know that that can be kind of a difficult topic um especially for those of us that are you know obviously old enough enough to remember where we were at that time um and it's interesting teaching students who were not alive um and so we want to make sure that the lessons we provide are are all um age appropriate um and that once again teachers feel confident and comfortable teaching that information and not only did we provide lessons for our Civics in government because it's required but we also um curated um lessons and resources for um our K2 the other um grade levels as well and so here is an example of one of our teachers at Orange Park Jr um kind of using the one of the lessons that we provided as well and I love his American flag shirt all right and um also Hispanic Heritage Month started last week and it goes through um October 15th and so once again we create a hyperdoc of resources um we've also included for administrators to share um a weekly announcement just a weekly biography um of a Hispanic American who is made an influential um made an impact on our country some of them um deal with the military so um the first uh Latina us uh female us uh military pilot um botanists we've got some doctors in there so um each week our administrators share that short little biography with um their school and Founders week which is right now so um um once again by State Statute are fifth grade middle school and 11th grade US History students um are required to have 3 hours of instruction around the Declaration of Independence around this time so in Clay County we've kind of combined a few um a few recognitions including Constitution Day and celebrate freedom week and we've made it Founders week um and so during this time our students are digging into primary sources they look at excerpts from the Constitution from the Declaration um they're really using those social studies SK that we mentioned earlier um you know the document analysis um and to um kind of dive a little more and immerse themselves in the um those founding documents and um I will probably see you guys in December again as well for the K5 art contest winners to recognize them um and this year our theme is America symbol so that art contest is going to kind of revolve around that um and so in addition to creating lessons and resources for around the Constitution and the Declaration we also each year update our theme and provide resources that are related to the theme as well all right well thank you all so much for allowing you to share a little bit about what's going on in social studies yes ma'am Mary you don't have a test for us because I know there's some BBQ questions right here there there's some tense questions and dbqs down in the Elementary grades now yes four six improvement from teaching social studies in the past I love that we also have yeah history I see all of these I see all of these AIDS now that teachers have and seriously MH I appreci makes you want to go back into the classroom but not until after Jo first or right well thank you all I appreciate it this was excellent thank you so let me start by saying Mary Owens rock star in case you couldn't tell and uh I also will say that it was kind of funny I was watching Mary presentation I was also looking at was just beaming with pride because Kelly used to have that position this position so kind of interesting a couple points I'd like to make like being successful and being first in Civics and second in US history overall and fourth I mean fourth in US history second overall that just doesn't happen right there's an organized plan behind that and really for me the key behind that is having a line curriculum that vigorous in nature plus strong instruction makes that happen that doesn't happen without support of that in other words if you didn't have a mar Owen and other people behind the scenes providing those lessons and doing those things that doesn't happen right we all know that teachers are very uh uh have very little time it's a very challenging task with a lot going on uh figuring out content that's aligned with the benchmarks is a is a whole thing instead we pretty much provide that to teachers and say here you go right that's really the key to success is to have people behind the scenes working on that whether it's Mary Stephanie or the coaches that are working on actual instruction in the classroom all those things are intentional right and by Design to happen that way so that's why I was going to make a a joke about how we kick the rest of the state's butt as much as the Jaguars got be last night little sore about that already but really when you look at the numbers you can't help but make that analogy so know being very competitive I looked at the numbers and I thought we K some serious front across the state but it's because we provide teachers with the resources to do that and an organized plan to make that to make that happen so the other part that that Mary spoke to that I would like to bring out is just teachers have to teach the benchmarks if you're looking hey what do you like sometimes you'll hear things like teachers are teaching this teaching that teachers are teaching what The Benchmark is The Benchmark is actually decided by the state of Florida it's given to us you then teach the Benchmark so the analogy would be if a teacher is not teaching The Benchmark and they're teaching something else because they like that topic or whatever the case might be what's happening is you're actually hurting students with in performance so the analogy I would give you is if you wanted to teach somebody to uh to shoot a 3o shot in basketball right you wouldn't give them a soccer ball and say go ahead figure it out right you would show them how to do it three-point line they would practice rigorously to make that happen so what happens to teachers is sometimes they don't follow the curriculum guides that are given and the structure that's provided sometimes because I was a history teachers I can speak from experience sometimes you kind of go off the script a little bit and then that creat a little bit of angst clearly it's facts not Facebook that we Le the state in social studies and and Civics a lot to be proud of Mary and her team of two Mary andhie do a fantastic job constitutions yes so um that I forgot to mention is another um support that the C of Courts provides us as well so to all seventh graders to um all of our students that they um interact with Civics and government usually yes thank you you're welcome okay next on the list another another area to kind of highlight which is exceptional student education we have DR Sanders here presentation let me just start off by saying um increasing our knowledge about ESC and ESC Services would would certainly benefit the entire organization for all of us because one of the things that i' I've noticed is that parents love their children right so just imagine raising a child in today's age many of us are older or some of us have children right in the school system but you get the idea that you know the world's a tough place to raise a child so imagine a child that has difficulty learning that kind of adds to the difficulty as a parent and sometimes you see that because I know sometimes we we'll hear from parents that are frustrated but realize they're in a tough spot right as a parent they're trying to figure it out too and maybe don't know the services that are provided and the context of those services so here to do that is Dr C all right good morning I'm so glad to be here with you guys just to tell you a little bit about our program and what we do in the exceptional student education department um Mr Broski did say we needed to be done by noon I could talk about this topic all day long so I was very intentional about trying to keep it concise so if at the end there are things that um you wish I would have covered feel free to let me know and I can always come back again or we can meet individually so um I want to start by giving you guys just a little bit of information about our department by the numbers so you know the numbers change every day but on any given day there are about 11,000 actually I think it's a little higher now students that we are responsible for that includes students ages 3 through 21 um that's something that a lot of the public does not know that we are responsible um we think of our school system as K12 but really in ESC we are prek through 22 so through a student's 22nd birthday if they have an IEP they are able to stay and receive services and so with that also comes this child find obligation we are actually obligated by federal federal law to find students out in the community who may need services and evaluate them and help them get those Services um I will say just in case anybody doesn't realize that 11,000 plus does include gifted so federally gifted is not included in special education because it's not a disability in Florida Florida does include gifted in exceptional student education so I try to um let you know when I'm including gifted versus when I'm not so except for the gifted students there are 13 eligibility areas through the idea and I'm not going to list all of them but they are um eligibility areas like s specific learning disabilities Ohi other health impairment ASD autism spectrum disorder indd intellectual disabilities DD which is where PRK starts developmental disabilities and then we have all of those therapies and things too the speech impaired language impaired um Physical Therapy occupational therapy all of those things we've got our 43 District managed schools that we're responsible for obviously we have um I asked um someone in my office to run some current numbers yesterday we've got over 500 ESC teachers over 500 ESC assistants so when you think about the fact that we're talking over 11,000 students we're talking over um over a thousand really approaching 1100 teachers who serve these students and then our District staff you're talking a lot of people that are being served by our department we're also responsible not for the direct education of but we do support our four charter schools and our 13 private schools that opt into our services through consultation through um compliance support through um training in some cases and then we're also responsible for homeschool students actually we don't serve them we don't go to their homes and teach them but we do have to work with those families to develop IEPs and provide consultative services as needed for those students all right so what guides all of our processes for ESC starts at the Federal level we have that big federal law called the individual individuals with disabilities Education Act U most of you guys have heard of that most people call it idea then of course each state is responsible for taking that idea federal law and coming up with their state statutes and the corresponding rules that go along with those and so of course our state has done that and there are a lot of things we have to follow within that trickling down we then take idea we take those State statutes and corresponding rues and we develop our Clay County district schools policies and procedures and then our admissions and placement manual and I'll tell you more about that in a few minutes so starting at the federal level that idea like I said that's what mandates we have to serve students ages 3 through 21 to receive that special education and related Services a quote from idea that I think just helps sum up some of what we do and I love this quote from from not all law has nice quotes we can we can but this one is nice it says disability is a natural part of the human experience and in no way diminishes the right of individuals to participate in or contribute to society improving educational results for our childrens with disabilities is an essential element of our national policy of ensuring equality of opportunity full participation Independent Living an economic self-sufficiency for students with disabilities and so that's part of our goal of our department is really um given in in that quote that's why I like that um one of the things that idea says and in part in that quote it it alludes to it is that students with disabilities do not belong to the ESC Department students with disabilities are general education students first the services they get through the ESC Department are in addition to those general education services that they get um this slide this exact slide is shown in every single professional development opportunity we have with teachers and assistants even parents um just as a reminder and I'll tell you I've been doing this for 25 years all in Clay County don't plan on ever leaving Clay County and um I need this reminder sometimes I'm a mom and I'm a special educator and sometimes I have to remind myself that we're not talking about just special services we're talking about what everybody else gets and specialized services so when we look at the state statutes and corresponding rules there are a lot of them right and so obviously we're not going to take time to go through all of those we can all read and um I I and my team are very well versed in all of them and so anybody ever just wants to talk about law a little bit we can do that but one of the things that um I found in Florida statute that I just thought was important to bring up to the board and to the public is this that basically says while we're providing for the education of these students we have to not can but shall utilize our regular school facilities and adapt them to the needs of our ESC students as as best we can um they also these students have to be educated with students that are non-disabled segregation is not the go-to segregation it actually says in the statute segregation of exceptional students students shall occur only if the nature or severity of the exceptionality is such that the education in the regular class with use of supplementary AIDS and services cannot be achieved satisfactory satisfactorily so there are a lot of rules that we follow and we are trying to help I AP teams placements and find those appropriate places for all of our students another thing that um is sometimes a misconception was that okay sometimes there are misconceptions that um you know we identify that a student might have a disability and so we can just go ahead and start serving them and Florida statute actually says that a student may not be given that special instruction or Services through ES unless and until they've been properly evaluated and found eligible and so that's something that we really follow that rule in our district um we don't ever want to delay services but we are required to go through that um comprehensive evaluation process um excuse me DR Sanders yes ma'am I would not provided this PowerPoint prior to the meeting for me to actually read this and of course with my masters in es and teaching ESC for nearly 20 years this is also a love of mine but I wanted to go back to the slide prior to where you are right now we talked about in providing the education of exceptional students shall utilize the regular school facilities and you go on to say that shall be educated with students who are not disabled I wanted the board to I have the Flor to Statute in front of me because I'm franic was looking for it CU I was unaware we were talking about this particular thing today but the actual statute says in providing education for exceptional students the district school superintendent principles and teachers shall utilize the regular school facilities and adapt them to the needs of exceptional students to the extent appropriate that is key in this statute we are unable to probably talk about this or discuss this today I may be ask asking for you to come back um because the actual this part of the law is a part of the law that has been really important for parents and teachers it goes on to say to the extent of appropriate I am not sure um if you could uh forward me the procedures manual the for inclusive education so that I can take a look at it and then I'm going to have to get back with you because I actually have a whole LT of how that uh extent appropriate Works in Clay County and what parents and teachers um input for how that works in Clay County and so this particular part of this slide uh like I said had I been privy to the information ahead of time I would have been able to Rive what I would like to have provided um but the segregation of exceptional students shall occur only if the nature or severity of exceptionality is such that education in regular classes with the use of supplementary AIDS and services cannot be achieved so I need to find out the interpretation of this particular law which is 1357 uh 5e and then 5f um the extent with which CL County utilizes this the rubric or the parameters we have set to um provide inclusive educ a for every student yes I could talk all day about that Miss Hansen so we can certainly um go into that more actually where I was let me see if I can get back to where I was I was just about to talk about so we do have our Clay County policies and procedures the state requires us to develop a policies and procedures manual it is approved by the doe so that they can make sure that what we are proposing it does fall in line with statute it is also adopted by the school board so I we can certainly get you guys a copy of that it's in the Google Drive we have it digital we have it printed um we can get anyone a copy of that it's a little light reading of I think 331 Pages or something along those lines yes I'm particularly um interested in our procedures for inclusive placement across the Spectrum as well as what we deem appropriate or not appropriate and I guess also in considering um Regular education students what's best for them as well as our placement to our ESC students we really want the best for all students absolutely and so I would appreciate you forwarding everything you have on that to include your procedures manual and the bpie um and then I'll I'll peruse through it and gather my questions together and maybe we can have another meeting like you said sure we can get that too I do believe it's also available on the doe website they're all public record they're all public um policies but yeah we can get whatever whatever we need to get to you so in procedures not policy okay thank you okay the manual is actually called policies and procedures so that's what the state calls it so that's what we'll get you so in that as we're following those policies and procedures that are approved by the state and then adopted by the board um the the biggest thing that we think about right is this individualized education plan so when we're thinking about individual students each of those students has an individualized education plan that addresses what services we're going to be able to provide to them from the ESC Department it also details what is appropriate for that individual student when it comes to time spent with non-disabled peers we're actually required in the IEP to discuss the time spent with non-disabled peers we review those at least annually so go back to that number of 11,000 is at least annually so when we talk about our ESC secretaries that are out in our schools we're talking minimum that many meetings but also amendments can happen amendments Amendment meetings can happen when requested by a parent when needed when requested by the school staff then we also have a larger re-evaluation every 3 years that sometimes includes our school psychologists sometimes includes other testing that is done to make sure that we don't need to adjust that process for that child interim reports or progress reports are supposed to be sent home to families every four and a half weeks so that coincides with our interims and our report cards M Sanders yes ma'am when you talk about the 11,000 students that you serve does that include the public or private and homes school students I believe it does because we're pulling that number from Synergy okay and in Synergy they are listed okay all right so this is my favorite part um so how are these kids doing how are these 11,000 kids doing well they're doing really well as you can see we've been tracking their increase in proficiency um I have been tracking it over the last four years because I just spent um I just finished my fourth year in this role so um just started my fifth year September 1st and when I look at our increase in overall proficiency and this is on our state assessment this is not on the alternative assessment those students are also doing well but these are students who are taking the the regular State assessments we're at an 8% increase for English English language arts which is wonderful 12% in math seven in science 22% in Algebra 1 13 in geometry and biology 12% in Civics which Miss Owen mentioned our students and Civics our students with disabilities are doing well they're doing better than the state is doing and that is um shown here as well and then US history and so this is every single assessed area so every single assessed area is showing an increase in proficiency yes Miss Skipper I have a question yes ma'am I know you did this in for four years but my brain works and one year so I got I have a question what would the average or normal across the state for a in a year time frame would would these areas go up like 1% I'll be honest many places around the state are not showing any increase they're showing decreases so um I'm happy with any increase each year but to to see this over four years I'm beated so this is this is good stuff these are kids lives this these are this is changing the trajectory of kids' lives when we look at Algebra 1 we all know that's kind of a you know a gatekeeping class as far as you know opportunities elsewhere are they going to be able to go to college what are they going to be able to um you know pass an SAT to be able to for some of the things that you need that for I mean 22% increase in proficiency that's good so have and geometry and geom absolutely I have some more data to share with you so each year the state puts out an annual performance report it goes to Mr Broski and the ESC department and actually it's ESC and student services so in our district it's climate and culture we both have indicators in this and there are 14 different indicators that the state looks at to basically grade our ESC department and they give us a Target and then it's whether or not we met that Target and so one of the things I'm super proud of is graduation rate they set us a Target at 86.7% we are at 98.65% for graduation rate and Miss Skipper because I know I know how you are um how do the counties near us do well one specific County near us who historically um does very very well overall their ESC gradu uation rate is only 87.5 ours is [Music] 98.65% so when we look at 98% again we're changing the trajectory of these kids' lives DR Sanders are you talking about um like they're getting a a standard diploma everyone gets a standard diploma now oh okay so that changed about how long ago Chris um Teresa seven or eight years seven or eight years ago so yeah everyone gets a standard diploma um the only thing that's different would be if if a transcript is looked at like say you're applying to a major university they would look at the transcript if they see those access classes the access points classes that might hinder them okay so we all get a standard diploma okay yes and our assessment results which I showed you that 4year um average before but when we look at one of the things that they look at they look at our proficiency rate for students with IEPs against the grade level academic standards and we are meeting the Target in every single one of those tested areas again if you pull up the Lea profile for surrounding districts you don't see that so we are super proud of that here's another thing that I'm very proud of of you guys have heard um other members of our District administration talk about school Improvement and how many schools we had on that atsn list which is the additional targeted support and intervention needed and this is a Statewide thing a lot of um ESC directors in the state are really working on this so last year we had 19 schools that were identified as being in that atsn status in other word in other words needing some intervention and that was all based on the federal index so the federal index they want ESC um students with disabilities to be at 41% or higher we had 19 that were not um on that we jumped right on it we got with like Miss Owen said all of the jined coaches and Specialists made sure that we were using the same language we really um worked hard to collaborate with Miss Tito's office Miss Pickett's office um Dr Shepard in professional learning and really um continue trying to embed ese into everything we're doing we were able to take 16 of those schools off the list two were added and so now we have five but man to go from 19 to five in one year it's amazing and I and I will share I shared this with Mr brosy the other day last Friday I was on a call with other directors from large districts and one of the things that they were all worried about is this school Improvement atsn what are we going to do with these schools because if you're on that ATS and list for five years six years by to sixth year is when you get really into that major School Improvement status which we're we're taking them off we're not having them get to that long um we're we're far ahead of some of the other districts that I've talked to in this regard and a lot of that has to do with um Miss and her work with school Improvement so but it's a team we all work together and here's just a quick um show of that Federal index so of course we had no data from the covid year but our federal index went up three points in 2122 we stayed the same in 2223 maintaining that growth and then last year we have another four points so um that's fantastic again if you look at the federal index for many of our um like districts you will not see that growth that growth happening and with all of that each year Mr brosi receives a letter in the mail from the state that basically says we've looked at all this data we've looked at the federal index we've looked at your Prof proficiency we've looked at the growth we've looked at everything we've looked at your graduation rate and they tell us that we have either that we either need substantial intervention intervention we need Assistance or we meet requirements so we we always meet requirements we've met requirements every year that I've been at the district Mr Ryan said he thinks it's pretty much been as long as he know has no um which is the highest possible rating and I just want to say again not my business but not all districts get that you can have districts in the top five and do there are districts in the top five who do not meet requirements for their ESC students they may be doing well with all of other students they may not necessarily be doing well with their students with disabilities so I'm super proud that not only are we a great School District a high performing School District with all students but we can confidently say that we're doing the work for our students that may need the most support so that makes me very proud um another thing that makes me really proud is and this is not in your slides because I added this at the last minute because I just kind of remembered the Florida inclusion network is um a discretionary project of idea and they support us through inclusive scheduling and collaborative teaching and learning they actually came to me last year and said we've been watching your federal index we've been watching your growth and we would like to come do some videos in Clay County to teach other people how to do what you guys are doing and so last spring they came and we visited spj as Brian Jennings they were one of the schools that was identified as a school that has been improving in their students with disabilities and they videoed some teachers teaching collaboratively and now are posted on their website um we also went to Lakeside Jr which has always had a reputation of really being very inclusive and their data um supports that what they do works and then um actually miss hope Davis before she joined my team and Mr Justin James were interviewed by the Florida inclusion Network as administrators to talk about what they do at their school and then I was also interviewed um there are four videos posted on their web page their public web page for the state for training purposes and they're actually using them in in training I actually while I was sitting here waiting for my turn to come up I saw an email come through from the Florida inclusion Network asking to come back and do some more visits because they just are noticing all of the wonderful things that we're doing so that feels really good um so you kind of you might ask like well how are you taking all these improvements like you know we're not it's not just happen stance it's not just luck um there's no luck to it we're working really really hard we have a great team um one of the things I'm so sorry I'm going to pause you for a moment while we um call to order our special meeting okay and then we'll come right back to you okay great sorry we have to start it right at 10:00 okay all right I will now call to order the special meeting of September 24th say that again [Music] yeah uh missor do you want us to open that agenda and vote on our computers we can or I can vote for you whatever your preferences okay if youall want to switch over agendas to the special meeting agenda Miss ghal in if I may say something sure okay at this time the board will decide to vote to approve the course of action that has been recommended by side Council and the board attorney because of the privacy issues related to this special meeting agenda item I would ask that the board members refrain from any specific discussion in previously scheduled executive session this matter involving pending L litigation was discussed with the board um now we just need a motion we'll need a second um along with an affirmative vote to proceed with the legal team's recommendations thank you do I have a motion I move approval do I have a second second motion from Miss baa a second from Miss Clark motion all in favor please say I'm sorry do public comment um no there's there's no room for public comment there would just be present presentations from the audience after we vote okay all in favor please say I I any opposed motion car Miss Hansen did you vote I'm sorry it broke up a little bit could you guys repeat the vote for me do you need phone it was a motion for approval by Miss Bola a second from Miss Clark um and this is in regard to uh the closed session hearing that we had um uh would you like would you like uh our legal team to repeat what they've said no I I vote Yes okay uh motion carries 5 Z give every SEC everybody a second to vote online all right we have no yellow cards from the audience any comment from anybody all right this meeting is adjourned I'll now open reopen the workshop [Music] meeting Miss sorry I'm back so what I was saying I think right before right before that is just you know that these things don't happen just by chance it does take a lot of planning it does take a lot of coordination with other departments one of the things that we've really been focused on over the last couple of years is um this this thing called high leverage practices and so there are um a group of researchers practitioners who really did a lot of research over a span of many years to look at okay what what work works for our students with disabilities like really what like we know what we would say good teaching is we know what we do but really what works and they came up with 22 High leverage practices and so what our department has really been doing is focusing on these 22 High leverage practices and making sure that every time we are sharing um a strategy every time we're sharing a program every time we are getting together and having collaborative discussions we're bringing it back to does this fit with one in one of these 22 High leverage practices because we know that these things have been heavily researched and so that's that's one of the things that we've been doing and that has been giving us quite a bit of lift and fun fact a lot of the high leverage practices for students with disabilities are also what they call exemplary practices for students who are learning English and so um under the direction of Mrs Tito um K Fraser and I have been working together to tr because it's just one more thing right we don't want to have one more thing me you know ESC is telling us this Esau is telling us this we're really trying to be cohesive and say hey if we can get really good at scaffolding scaffolding is something that is a high leverage practice for both areas and so we're really trying to um work smarter not harder in that way and so some of you may have heard over the last 6 months we've changed up some of our ESC support structures um our theme for this year for our team at the district is that we want to be the building blocks of support for our schools and we're focusing on kind of a back to the basics of academics behavior and compliance we have our new School site Specialists that are out in schools um just a little bit more about our department structure we of course have um me as the Director and then we have three administrators in our department who help support the work um of the department and so we have Mr Christopher Ryan who is here if you'll wave Chris just so some of the board members might not know what you look like Mr Ryan is kind of our compliance Guru he is um really good at problem solving when we're looking at legal matters and um and complaints and things like that and he helps with a lot of other areas Miss Carlson is back there Teresa Carlson is a supervisor in ESC um you saw earlier where I said you know we have our 43 District managed schools but then we also have our private Charter Schools our DJJ schools Pac and Ami you know of FICA that we have to also support and so miss Carlson takes the lead in that area among several other things and then our most recent Edition has been miss hope Davis who came from Lakeside Jr and had been there for six years as an assistant principal and had comes with a lot of experience with ES so um that's our our administrative structure and then we have us up there we have our district house specialist we have a specialist for each of the areas ASD EBD prek um Hospital homebound indd access points speech and language sld and academics transition there are several others that are not on that list so what we did last year was We really tried to um limit the number of staff that are housed at the off at the at the district office and push more of that support out into schools you guys heard a lot about that last year from Mr Broski and so this shows a lot of these Specialists were um at the district or were itinerate and now are full-time in schools and we have kind of zoned out the support and this has been working well our new structures I mean there are definitely some things that we're working through some bumps in the road but overall it's going really well and we're there's no doubt that we have more support uh boots on the ground at the schools so that's good and So speaking of that we um started tracking our support this year out in the schools um this is something that Jenny Shepard and the professional learning department has done for several years and so we just kind of piggybacked onto her form several other departments did as well so we're actually able to see which which schools are getting the most support how many hours have been spent there which of the staff members have been there to support I can actually run a report and see where are we spending our time when my staff is out in schools what is it we're doing well we're working on behavior um that's a thing you know working through behavioral problem solving we're also working with IEPs helping a lot of these new teachers work on IEPs and develop those strong IEPs also some compliance some documentation some coaching work work but this helps us plan for the future it helps us plan for professional learning opportunities helps us plan where we need to go next and so some of the things we do when we're out supporting the schools we're assisting families in transitioning to the district one thing that I do every single day is get at least one call from someone or one email that's hey heard great things about your District thinking about moving here um can you help me my child has autism that's usually what it is it's usually autism and usually I heard you guys have great program so um we do a lot of assisting families in transitioning we do a lot of classroom observations and recommendations um our Behavior team they go into classrooms often and then provide recommendations to those teachers and those administrators we do a lot of just problem solving sessions and um sessions where we're trying to make placement decisions um trying to help IEP teams make those appropriate placement decisions we do a lot of instructional and school Improvement walks with other District staff with school leaders we attend high need IEP meetings we provide a lot of training and coaching a lot of professional learning opportunities um we work with our school leaders in ESC best practices inclusive Master scheduling which that's another thing that has really helped all those gains that I showed you earlier all that increase in proficiency having an inclusive master schedule helps with that and I've really had a lot of support from Miss Tito and Miss picket in that um over the last couple of years getting everybody on board with um using an inclusive schedule and just problem solving with them helping them with professional learning I provided professional learning at dr's Inlet last week because Carolyn A's reached out and ask me if I could do that um we do that often and then just also collaboration and support with other District departments I mean just in the last couple of days I've collaborated with Mr boak on safety security I've collaborated with uh Miss picket on several secondary things Miss Tito on several Elementary things right before the board Workshop Mr Addison came over and um asked about something he's doing in building that affects our students with disabilities we build playgrounds we deal with transportation and talk to mandle and his team there to make sure that all of our Stu students are being transported um appropriately and so our department really spans a lot of different areas and then we're just constantly looking at this data I'm a a little bit of a data nerd so um you know when new data is rolling in I'm constantly looking at it looking for those bright spots looking for those opportunities to continue growing and to continue doing better because even though we have those great games until we're at 100% of our kids reading that's not good enough and so we're going to continue working through that so I mentioned professional learning and some of the things that we've been doing this is literally a snippet of some of the things that we've offered already this year um in addition to our big um one clay Leadership Academy that we collaborate with Dr Shepard's um team on we and our ESC summer Summit you guys have heard of that before where between those two events over 1,200 teachers attended I mean they it's big so far this year though we've offered training on instructional strategies for students on access points we have a ve self-contained new teacher cohort that's at night um I was there last night and um our staff offers after hours they don't you know have to they want to to support our new teachers and then we have these quarterly Beyond The Summit ESC collaboratives where we focus on these high leverage practices and how to um really get these into the classrooms and having teachers share those wonderful ideas so we're really proud of these I could take up about 10 more slides with all the different things that we're offering and last but not least another thing I'm really proud of in our department is that we Revitalize ized our ESC advisory Council we had an ESC um liais on for years Miss Jill mlea Who provided a great service to our district for I think 17 years I think is how long she was with us but right after Co she decided to retire and we were able to um hire a new family liaison her name is Elizabeth Williams she's a mother of a student in our district many of you know who who she is and she is our es family leison she goes um to IP meetings with parents if they feel like they need a third party neutral person to help them um she helps people go through their IEPs to help understand them she acts as a mediator sometimes between families and us if a family doesn't know how to come to us and ask for the help sometimes she will um do that on their behalf or um sit with them while they talk to us which is helpful and she has been great with that we have a monthly advisory Council every month we meet and we move it around geographically to different areas of the the district so that all people have access to this um we have some people who come once or twice a year we have some people who come every single time and so our next one is in October October 29th at 6 p.m. at Green Cove Junior High um last month we were at Ridgeview Elementary and the reason we don't have one in September is because we're going to have our second annual ESC family engagement night this is something we started last year with our word of the year last year being engaged we did our ESC family engagement night just to invite families out we have tables set up with all of our different programs so our slps have a table our um academic support people have a table our Hospital homebound um team has a table and we just are there for parents to ask questions to get to know us to meet their program Specialists for the program that their child might be in we also invite outside vendors so we have vendors like the Special Olympics um challenge Enterprises the library the fair comes and so this is just a night for us to um get to know our families and to be there with them and it was a great success last year even though we were under a torrential downpour we still had a couple of hundred people show up our second annual one is tonight and so I know a couple of people have mentioned end that to me that they saw out out on social media and things if anyone in the room wants to stop by we'll be there from um 6:00 to 8: and we we know that it will be a great event too just like last year just getting a little bit better every year so that's all I have planned but I'm willing to take some questions if you guys need if there's time Mr Broski yes ma'am I just have three comments okay number one Kudos on working with Clay County Fair oh yeah and Tasha Haider for their silent hours y that has been absolutely totally our team volunteers there I see it and I see it on tash's Facebook and the Clay County fairs website and it is that's a positive Facebook thing most definitely number two um kudos for the prison I mean you guys are rocking it um there was a but the one thing that I was thinking as you were going through our numbers and how well we're doing truly a double-edged sword because we are doing so well have always done well in ESC Services yes always room for improvement but have always done superbly well to the point where families do tell other families particularly in the military oh no you want to go to Clay County Clay County is a place if you have a child with any needs of any special needs whatsoever but having worked with children coming up from the ebb program at Argyle and being slowly integrated into the General Ed I talk about rewarding seeing their math those math scores and and other scores made me very very happy um and kudos for the training that you're doing because I know a number and I think it was the the end of the year training last year I know a number of teachers who were not ESC trained who came into that and walked away feeling absolutely empowered so well done well done and well done thank you thank you anybody else anything so if I could before you go you know one of the things I like to I always pride myself being from new work so we can cut the chase real quick you know one of the things I want to point out about ESC is that it's very complicated live in a manual is like 300 pages to give you an idea of the number of laws regulations and those types of things you know Chris Chris makes a living out of interpreting those things and making sure that people comply it's a whole mechanism that's going on I started off talking to you about um the fact that raising a child in and of itself is difficult raising a child with a disability is having trouble learning is a whole new level of that and so sometimes I run into common themes so I'd like to ask some questions from the expert you as board members May in fact he okay have you ever had a parent come to you and say they believe their child is ESC but they don't qualify for ESC Services can you elaborate on sometimes a parent has difficulty with their child child's not learning so they have to have a disability here you go make them disabled absolutely I would say at least weekly um somebody on our team or even on Heather Tito's team she deals with this as well through mtss we will have a parent say um here's all this stuff from a doctor I need you to write my IEP and we have to then take a step back and explain to them that that is one piece of the puzzle um a parent wanting an IEP the state statute does not allow us to give an IEP based on that there are a lot of factors we have to look at we are mandated by Statute to utilize general education interventions first so that is something that we have to do um so you know that's something sometimes also there are students who are doing really well um I can think of a couple over the last year the students are actually doing great but the parent just wants that protection so we've got say a first or a second grader reading on grade level all their data all of the data they have from their Jenna teacher shows they're doing well they might have an outside diagnosis of something but if there's not a need for that special designed instruction you're not going to get an IEP an IEP you have to have a disability we have to show that response to intervention was not successful and that there's a need for specially designed instruction does that answer your question Mr brosi it did I I just want to point out the fact that sometimes parents of a child's not successful want uh an additional process sometimes they don't qualify for for that you can't just like make somebody into one of 11 cator and say here you go you're in there there's rules there's processes there's eligibility criteria all of that is contained within the& manual and that's how that works occasionally you'll have somebody that's upset because their child isn't qualified yeah forc services that happens MH yeah uh second question call this the shanger law effect I love this right have you ever have you ever had a situation where a student perhaps a student that has some disability challenges and whatnot is placed into a classroom and then others believe that that child shouldn't be in that classroom it should be somewhere else the term shangra fact is a rasism by the way there's no everyone always believes that there's the mythical place that a child should go to where they will learn if you send them to shangra LA and I always point out to everybody there is no Shang we are shanga has that ever happened that happens all the time I mean on a on a daily basis somebody on our team is is talking through a situation like that you know I recognize because I've been a teacher I've been a general education teacher and a special education teacher and I've been a school leader so I know what it's like as a teacher I know what it's like as a leader to feel like we have tried everything we have tried everything and we just need some help we need somebody else to help us we need this kid doesn't seem to be being successful with us we really need him to go somewhere else but now being in the position I'm in now I really have had to take a step back and go oh gosh I'm really sorry for all those times I called Terry Roth and told her that um like this kid to go somewhere else because really there is nowhere else like we are required to serve every single student that's what the free appropriate public education is you know there are different places we can serve students but we're required to serve every one of our students and so U Mr Bros is absolutely right often and it's not because those people whether it's a teacher or a school leader it's not that they don't want to serve that student sometimes they're just overwhelmed right because again we're increasing in numbers we're increasing in some of the behaviors are increasing in severity so you know a class of 15 10 years ago doesn't look like a class of 15 now necessarily at some grade levels and so yeah that's a thing Mr rosi absolutely question number three have you ever had a parent that's frustrated because the child is not learning uh to the rate in which they expected their child to to learn once they're once they're once they're in the ESC program absolutely we have that sometimes I would actually say sometimes we have the opposite of that we have where the ESC program is working and we want to lower the services because we're supposed to give the least restrictive environment we're not supposed to have the most restrictive environment we are required by federal law to consider the least restrictive environment so a lot of times when we try to pull back Services we get pushed back from families and from janed teachers you know and from we do because it's like yeah but are they going to be successful if you pull those back well we're not going to know unless we try and the whole goal in the end is for them to lead an independent life as much of an independent life as they can and so um I really you've heard me say it a couple times already I really try to when I'm making a decision about a student or I'm problem solving about a decision about a student I always try to think like what is what is that least dangerous assumption and if this is a decision that could change the trajectory trajectory of their life I'm going to air on the side of caution right um we can always add Services later if they're not doing well but yeah Mr bosy we get it both ways we get um you know parents who say yeah they're not they're not improving fast enough we have other who say well I hear you saying they're improving but I don't want you to take away their services so but U just a fact um that there's passionate people out there you're passionate yourself know what you're do we appreciate what you do but but there's people that are passionate so I did a little bit over you realize that if there's a 100 passionate super super passionate people that we've all met about ESC Services Let's Pretend There's 100 mathematically that would be 9% % less than 1% of of vot so the point I'd like to make is thatc department is doing a great job when you look at how they compar across the state they're doing exceptional 21% or a little bit more than 21% of our students are classified as ESC students that's a huge chunk of people why wouldn't it be reasonable to assume that there's always going to be um uh passionate disagreements related to children that's going to go on forever uh you know just having a son that was an ASU student I could just tell you but there's a certain level of passion that goes with your own children and that comes to the table I think of no other job right other other service providers provide the service and they're done yeah we we have people's children the passion level is huge and it factors into these these types of situations that you see bolster of so I I just like to thank DR Sanders and her team they do a great job it's very difficult circumstances I just have a question this might be like um out in leftfield that I just wanted to is it true that dyslexia is not part of a disabled so dyslexia in itself the word dyslexia is not identified in the federal law idea as a separate eligibility area but dyslexia can be served through the specific learning disability program so it's kind of a both sides are true you know yes yes Ida does not say dyslexia but most students with dyslexia can be if they meet all of the other requirements for sld they can be served under sld which is usually where we serve those students or OHI other health impairments so does that mean that they have to have like a dual diagnosis of something else before you can't just have yeah if they come in with a doctor note that says hey Mr Jeremiah's got um dyslexia I need you to write them an IEP we can't do that we would have to go through that um mtss process with general education um interventions see about that response to the intervention and then depending on that maybe do um do some testing of our own and if they qualify and I will say a lot of students with dyslexia do qualify for a specific learning disability or some other type of processing issue that would fall under either s or Ohi so it's kind of a it's kind of not true but you know that's the thing in ESC there's a lot of gray so um I think our favorite answer is like it depends can I ask one more question from a teacher perspective sure um I was teaching still in mtss was instituted and it was frustrating because there were there are as you said General Ed interventions and you do take it a step at a time yep um however there are times when you're looking at this one child who is interrupting the entire class it's very obvious that it's the one child you have done the mtss it's a timing thing mtss takes time it can and I think just from a teacher perspective that's probably from a general Ed perspective probably one of the greatest frustrations when you know that and I I'm not going to label any child because it's that's not fair but you know that this particular child might have some behavor problems and need additional support in a different environment or whatever so one thing I'd say about that Miss po cuz I was also a teacher back then right like I think that not to um say anything negative about any of our former administrators in our district but miss Tito under her direction we have really upped our game with mtss and our in the time that you're talking about the district wasn't really providing teachers with research based intervention materials which is why maybe it drug out took too long and we really are now we have provided so many research-based evidence-based materials to the schools that a they're working better because they're better materials and then we're really taking a look at each individual student so like with a situation like that some kids do need you know something a little bit different or we you know the process might be a little bit quicker for some kids depending on there's all kinds of factors and so anything to add to that must I than you cre great synopsis I mean ultimately our job is to provide the service and support and make sure that we have identified the necessary interventions that students need I will talk about like you were specifically speaking about Behavior that's an area like the last three years and we have an amazing multi team here at the district you know we we've talked about that multiple times where We've Come Together really trying to problem solve create an infrastructure problem solving around students and what they need and what resources they need to be successful but um the area that we're really delving into right now we've spent the last six months and we're trying to like coordinate we have a lot of great people doing a lot of great work when we think about behavior and so right now what we're doing is coordinating those efforts and trying to you know you know synchronize those together simp not simplify them but like streamline them so that it's easier for students and teachers to get the supports that they need and um we're able to provide the resources to do that so but you know behavior is one of those things that you know was a problem years and years and years ago and now it's just gotten a little more complex with how Society has impacted in different ways so we are actively working I mean I will tell you that we have a tremendous um Team I have I I have an mpss supervisor who who coordinates that work and partners with all departments but behavior is an area that we're working on academics I'm truly proud like when we think about that work and really understanding that it's about problem solving because if it was your child you wouldn't want somebody just to make a blanket decision without um data or interventions to you know show that you've done your due diligence and so I am proud of that work and we're going to continue to grow right now we have eight pilot schools for mtss um we have three we have four um that are in year two where we were building infr structures and support problem as a team and look at data to make those decision um and then now we have four more added this year with um a junior high and a high school so we're working on those systems but it takes time but like like as I mean the most powerful slide today that Miss Sanders I feel presented was that 19 where she shows like that work is a coordinated effort amongst all of the district leadership you think about years ago years ago the way that es ESC was treated in many respects and how it's come so far and truly the integration of services is amazing so well done thank you thank you guys for letting me share do I just feel like the knowledge is powerful just kind of understand and see that might be helpful when you hear things in the public you can then apply this to those situations I especially love the shanger law my I think we should write both the Shang law everybody wants shangra law doesn't really exist so and I from a parent perspective the frustration with the time that it takes to get through this process is really rooted I think and the the difficulty it is as a parent to watch your child struggle yes and I think you know as a society we try to make it as easy for kids as we can but um you know there's a certain amount of uh perseverance and grit that's built within a child when we allow that struggle to happen and and ultimately lead to the best path forward um so I think you know as board members when we hear from parents if we can just walk alongside them in that struggle and be compassionate with them but also encourage them that this is the best route it's hard but it will ultimately lead to the best plan for your child now the last item on the agenda is the actual review of the agenda itself this should take about 15 minutes I kind of previewed it and found that up believe controversy for the board to recognize there's no uh discussion items available there then we have the normal minutes there's anything there school board at of County travel this might be a discussion from the board which is the um vads uh fsba annual joint conference December 3rd through 6 I see uh the chair reached out to everybody about about uh attending I also I also reached out to both of the candidates for my position and encouraged them to either whichever one wins to please keep those dates open and attendance because as a new board member I think invaluable okay the next one is is managed printing services this is actually a reduction in cost for for printing it's a read negotiation of contract related to printing services next the person now consent agenda I didn't see anything of other than the normal business processes within that then you have Elementary out ofate travel then you have um the amendment with um uh boys and girls club and this was to increase the protection of the district Boys and Girls Club remember it's a separate entity and we wanted to ensure that uh after school events my separate entity is the liability is assumed by that agency so we were asking for clarifying language to strengthen our protection as a district that's what that's all about next is uh an agreement renewal with play County uh fire rescue uh to have EMR students uh go on Rival alongs with with them it's great great program there next is K12 um academic services Had State travel over night travel there a trip to New York in there the Theater District I'm telling you I know I'm telling you chaperone opportunity next is adding two components to our professional learning catalog in June the board approved a big catalog these are two additions to it which include uh one component on students with disabilities and the other's on fail facilitating the learning environment because there are additions we're bringing them back to the board uh October 23rd the next item October 23rd 31st is Red Ribbon Week it's the anti-drug massage week that we have each year next is a ratification of roer services for our senet program this is a pass through financially program I have a question sure are we going to team up with the Sheriff's Office and maybe do something like I don't know don't do drugs I know we probably do stuff through the state but I feel like we need hit harder like the Dare program yeah but not obviously not we which that would be cool if we brought something kind of like that back but well or I think Orange Park still does yeah mhm [Applause] just like I don't know SCH we Junior High and what possibility that's in B and you know things being more relevant be careful because you don't know if you're eating a Skittle or of course you know FAL crisis is certainly something that we see for sure uh allocation changes not very many changes in allocations there Chang ceria systems then we have deletion of certain items it's pretty routine every every month contract renewal for engineers you can see the engineers they were granted contract status at the bottom next two are our Prof share mitigation items one is for um 19 additional seats Elementary and and the cost there is 6 [Music] 47932 uh and that's with uh bellago face three that's Heritage homes of Florida the second one is similar and that's with Bago Town hes Phase 2 which is an additional three seats needed at a cost of 10235 V to is this likey right on SD okay folks just a planning question were was it always planned for there to be town homes or is that um no ma'am so um it goes back years so bellago original the phase one was 526 homes years ago they um they achieved concurrency and then about 43 years ago Levi RIT which is the developer bought another parcel of land and he applied for concurrency for 70 something town homes on there they did not achieve concurrency they had to get a a u a prop share for for that particular the phase two itself and then I think it was last year there was a piece of property to the to the east of phase one that was bought by Meritage Meritage wants to put homes there once again apply for concurrency can't achieve concurrency now that we're going through here and then there's a lot to it and then um next to the town homeall the developer came and they said well I I want to add 10 more I said well you can't just add 10 more your short seats originally in the original prop share agreement so to do that you're going to either have to amend the original or develop another prop share agreement they didn't want to touch the original prop share so they um opted to go this route and just add to three more seats in a separate prop share agreement so the answer to your question at first is no they weren't all planned at once it was phase one for 526 was the original plan okay and C can you just say this out loud because I know people's nerves and everybody is heighten especially when it comes to the lake Hasbury area and um I guess it was it was a learning curve for me when I first got on but I feel like the public needs to know this too that when we run out of space per se and they apply for this um we cannot not give them that space well we we are required by Statute to offer mitigation options right and there's three right there's three mitigation options they can either take the mitigation options or decline our mitigation options 100% of the time never seen a decline they opt for one of the options in other words once they opt for an option we cannot decline that development okay so I just want people to understand that we then have to offer the whether our school is overcrowded or not we still have to find a seat within our district for these 300 homes or or 300 seats or XY SE that's so then I just want to touch on this too because this has been a Hot Topic then and I want we don't have to go into detail we can just say you know per state statue whatever we can't just throw up schools we have to meet certain requirements of population and and other state statute requirements to be able to build a school yes ma'am okay one and US building a school is in response to growth correct we don't build schools in anti correct and I think that that is the frustration with the public they're not understanding that they want us to have four or five schools built um or they don't want us to build a school because we'll bring people right that I mean a catch but then then they also have to understand you know the cost of a school and we don't have to go down this road I just I want to say it out loud so that people understand that we're not just purposely not building we're not just purposely inviting people in and letting everybody come in but that we have to follow a state statute and a law and that not everything is up to us right it's a it's it's it's a squirly situation and one thing that we all have to remember is we can't just build a school based on a projection we need to make sure that that projection is come into fruition because we can have a long range projection but as we all know and it's happened before that economies crash so we don't want to build a school for $60 million having a crashed economy and that school s sits at 40% that's not good business that would that would be horri for us to do something like that and also we don't build roads pardon me no no we do not build roads notities so I just want to say that we can we can be proactive but there's only a certain point that we can be proactive until many pieces fall into place correct yes ma'am that's correct I just needed that to you said okay so next you can see that operations have been busy all the the rest of the items are all something that's happening in the construction world within Klay County Schools the final completion of the restrooms at mber high scho the uh single uh single uh Key Safety and Security measure at Keystone Heights High School the substantial and final completion of the air conditioning units at rvw High School uh single key initiative at middleberg high school Ops has been Ops has been busy uh over there a lot going on substantial comp completion of the single key entry for Keystone Heights High School final completion of the air conditioning units at Lake gbury Junior High uh Clay High track improvements contract awarded final completion of the HVAC and window replacement green Co Jr pre-qualification of contractors ride out Elementary School um classroom addition construction manager contract award for that um feature on the substantial completion Lakeside elementaries restroom Locus and Junior High fire alarm replacement ride ey Elementary classroom Edition architectural contract award final completion of BS and Junior High fire um fire alarm replacement uh Keystone Heights concession SC I know that that's finally getting their concession they were very happy I talked with the people who've been emailing me for years thank you thank you yes ma'am yes ma'am substantial final completion as bran Jennings school fire alarm Lakeside Junior High locker room renovation Orange Park Elementary restroom renovation and that completes the agenda but I do have some announcements to kind of finish my section one is you received a copy of the legislative priorities okay so I just wanted to bring that back to you and say okay our next Workshop we need to kind of talk about legislative priorities so we give some thought as to what you might bring forward as far as legislative priorities a reminder for Workshop bless you thank you in the area of attendance just want to say our attendance Campaign which is attend today PE tomorrow you should see banners and flyers everywhere talking about attendance we've seen some some good grow some good Improvement as far as the numbers are it makes sense to me that we would track our attendance numbers quarterly so you know the end of the first quarter is October 11th so that would be a good time to kind of reset look at the numbers but you know me I can't hope i' look early little little peek on that and we're seeing good good numbers good numbers there we down in absences districtwide related to students sometimes it's a matter of just telling people this is important you need to do this I was at uh Charles E Bennett doing a uh a walk through there of the school and I one of the things I did note was a 10 a 10o increase in attendance so particularly it's important that all students attend school let's be clear on that but particularly students that might have difficulty learning not being there really hurts right so those numbers I would I would make the argument there's a direct correlation between Student Success and physically attending school and so looking forward to that right now we do have some students and we haven't reached the point of of treny and I know that we're there because there's many things that happen happened prior to treny there's actually a tier one tier 2 a tier three uh step process there there are some folks close like uh you know they're getting there but that that would take some time to do that remember there's a series of letters a series of meetings and there's a district hearing like with us meeting the school district hearing before would ever be referred towards treny and and a legal process for that that's going well I don't know if you guys want to say anything minutes sure so the ball is rolling on our end with Tru Andy Court I actually am going tomorrow to putam County to view an actual live treny court um just so I have some more working knowledge of how the court process should look um and then we go all together as a big group in October to put County to visit judge janus's courtroom and to see the treny court um and that's with the Mr brosi Miss Kelly Gil foil um State Attorney's Office the judge that's going to be presiding over Trent SE Court here in Clay County um and then the clerk's office as well so it's moving right along sure if any of the board members are interested in attending as well just just let us know we'll put that on the list so you don't have to so i' love to okay great we'll get you an invite Mr awesome so yeah you got to be in it to win it so go to school is an important thing we want people to attend school but it's really at the school level it's about removing barriers from people so they do attend it's about bringing attention and advocacy to parents at the elementary school it's not a student decision about going to school it's a parent decision about going to school and so the importance of that needs to be communicated to parents I feel good about where we're at I think the increased attention on it will cause those uh that day that to approve as far as student attendance on to another topic the internal um internal auditor if you recall September 5th the board uh voted and authorized superintendent to look into this particular thing so just an update uh We've obtained and reviewed the workings of multiple districts including Broward Kia scambi Lee manate aola F Marian so we we kind of dived into what they actually do within those districts uh we particularly um have gotten great response and great partnership with Lee County which is uh about 999,000 students they were two and a little bit two and a quarter times our size but they they were the most uh cooperative and we've had uh Zoom meetings with them in order to learn their processes Etc related to that um we've established contact with RSM which is the company that we talked about uh in accordance with 1000 1.42 that's not um that's not 21839 it seems like based on that the most logical way to approach this would be on a per hour basis on how they do that RSM is a company that does this um really nationally but also Al within the State of Florida with school districts so they they have the most experience in doing this sort of work and so one of the things we're working now on guidelines with board attorney on the internal auditing committee and establishing that process um through that so look forward to Bringing more information back on that and usually it's that committee that determines the scope of work of the areas to audit a company what I found is a company like RSN because they do this so frequently and have so many experts in the field that usually have areas that are the the top areas to to AIT right and then they'll they'll come up with the top areas and usually have on their their list they kind of said hey there's 10 top areas that everybody wants to audit and then the committee then would in the process of making those decisions moving forward so we look forward to having additional information we're supposed to have a zoom uh at the end of this week with them and look forward bringing information to the October Workshop to finalize the process how many people are on the or not how many how many board members are on the committee typically there's one board member that's on the committee the board can certainly in Workshop discuss areas that they would like to and then the one repres representative would come forward to the committee so uh you know my plan would be based on what I've heard would be to find the areas that are typically audit bring it to the board workshop for the board to discuss have that information ahead a dive and kind of have the discussions the areas that they would like to audit and then bring them then bring them forward let's let's say that there's 10 different areas that that are are the most common audited areas to to audit in in a school district you can't audit all 10 at one time gos Pro heav would actually be difficult actually even accomplish that you know from a physical standpoint to make that happen so then the board certainly uh you know weigh in as to the areas that it would like to then the committee would need to do that the committee what we saw as committees were based on people with credentials to do that kind of work for example people that have um CPAs and people that work in finance would make sense that you're doing auditing uh financials that would be a logical thing to do going to bring that to you I just felt like since we voted on that I should say something about it here like where we where are we going with that so that's where we plan on going I'd also take the time to thank U Dr Dr was not here but I saw my email that went out about the most recent audit from the office of Inspector General the office of Inspector General from the state of Florida came in were in our district for 8 months they uh they audited dozens of areas they came up with pre audit findings which is District our size is pretty Dar and the three audit findings um were were obviously valid audit findings but were were uh small in stature they were easily corrected and so congratulations Dr L and the district team for for that whole process I for bring that forward um ESC family engagement night and saw that I'd also kind of point out that if you haven't known there's a storm out there okay so as soon as storms pop up I start getting emails it's kind of hysterical I get them from students yeah they start do I have study for that test we feel like it's too dangerous they start they start to argue their case they really do and so I just kind of laugh that's how I know the storm's coming stents start email me about Tak so the decision to close schools is is it really difficult for what well for me you know it's probably the thing that I like least about being superintendent uh we have a meeting in emergency management at 12:00 today there'll be additional discussion but at some point a decision will be will be made it looks like if that's the case that we would have some sort of impact here in our area on Thursday and then overnight Thursday and into Friday morning so you know I always get people that say hey we're closing school let Clos the schools the second I know I will tell you I'm not going to keep it it's not a secret I don't I don't enjoy keeping things to myself I will tell you so there's no point in asking me I'm going to tell you as soon as it happens so I appreciate the patience with that it's always uh always uh interesting this time of year very difficult because the safety of students is our number one priority and so when it comes to a a situation in which you have to air on the side of caution that'll always be the decision of Clay County schools that however leads to some interesting times where perhaps Friday afternoon it's bright and sunny and then you're wondering why did we close remember we're always going to air on the side of caution with students so more information will come out out in the near future um next board Workshop we're going to give a presentation this will be Paul's first uh Paul raise your hand Paul be giving a growth presentation we're also going to talk a little bit about uh how we're going to handle the growth in Ray gbury and in Oakleaf related to the new wings that are put out in Oak Junior High and Lake gburg junior high so we're going to start that that discussion because the goal would be for us to have final decision final talking to the public uh having meetings with the public all that kind of stuff we want to have that totally finished totally done by January because you know once we get back in January we start the whole process of uh allocations for schools like and Staffing people so that all all of that needs to be done to naturally build on how do we prepare for the next school year starting in January so look forward to that and um that's all I have thank you Mr can I ask a quick question I know we don't have the first count until October do we have any of and the count of the number of students that we have um do we have any feel for are we doing well numbers wise do you think going to so I I think we're going to wind up uh washing right now we're about 500 students less than projection so when you do when you do projection you're also projecting in growth now what you see happening though when you see this across the state you do see um uh sometimes parents choosing uh homeschool or have uh scholarships and those types of things I'll I'll leave my comments there sounds good I know you asked us not to ask you this but I'm going to ask it anyway as far as making a decision about school closures should we expect information about that today or would that be a tomorrow I I think by tonight tonight there will be a decision the challenge with this storm unlike the last storm the last storm was slow moving lot of rain this is fast moving lot of wind so it kind of changes the trajectory of the timing when you would announce that you have to you're going to open up a Shel you have to announce that a little sooner in appearance than the slow moving ring varieties that's kind of where we're at so I would expect something for at the end of the day tonight all right we had no yellow cards um School Board attorney conr yes ma'am thank you so first I want to thank Kelly WT and the staff for all the hard work and putting together the social media uh litigation we had a lot of work to do so thank you KY for all your work I know the the attorneys are still asking for more but we'll we'll as as attorneys always do but we'll still get through that so you heard update on try um just real quick on the audit committee selection criteria so we're looking at um what some of the other districts have done one of the things we want to make sure is that we find people with the right expertise there are committees and their their selections where you all are going to select people in the community that are um very interested in particular areas this is one where we don't really just want interest we also want to make sure we're identifying expertise and because these this is a committee that's going to help provide some oversight um so it probably would not be as appropriate to put you know uh I'm trying to think of you know maybe doctors will not be the best or attorney you know you really want people to have some experience in this particular area so we'll we'll we'll work with you on that I'll have kind of some updates and briefing once we're done um in addition so we want to make sure that we're always protecting the district and the board and our students um Florida law is changing consistently we're getting new new updates and changes and kind of interpreting legislative intent is important so one of the things I've been doing is working with the sheriff's department to make sure that as youall know book challenges are are a constant theme we want to make sure that we're Tiding up our procedures so that we're in compliance at Florida statute as much as possible um youall may get some emails about this there might be some confusion but the way the law is written today it limits the type of challenges that can be made per so you know we've had some efforts kind of circumvent that a little bit and we want to make sure that we're in compliance we don't attract uh negative legal attention or we have someone that's suing us because we're not following the law so that's always the worst scenar to be in to get suited because we're not following the policies not following the rules so um I think we have a good path going forward but I think we have to adapt as we go because you know it's it's an everchanging environment so are there any questions on any that that we can okay well thank you all thank you all so much I appreciate it thank you School member comments anybody have anything start with you um I would like to know when are when is our next meeting for um policy what what what's when are we doing that again for our next section so Janu right now we are actually moving M ahead of schedule which is good HR is working fact we have they have M day session um just last week was it Friday it was Thursday Thursday Thursday so we are moving well ahead of schedule we have already set times on the calendar for them to come beginning in January now right as of right now and they'll be here for the full two days and so they set it up so that if HR policies are done and they have a few hundred of them so it's it's quite a bit um if they are done then they will be ready to present and go over those policies and so this will be the HR sections um if for whatever reason I think we will be done that is our goal then um if not then they will just continue working on during that time however right now our goal is January so then each board Workshop each board meeting there would be a section related to policies keep in mind we talking hundreds because theola has I never did the [Applause] over policies are very and now you're adding um you know volume to it which is what takes time most districts take 18 months we set an aggressive timeline of 12 months and So the plan the ultimate the ultimate end thing would be that during the summertime we would resend all current policies and adopt all those policies that were reviewed from January to then could you have to have a point where you kind of flip the switch you say the old ones don't count anymore the new ones count and we're looking for that to be June to be the time so that's uh that's extremely impressive they were very um they were very complimentary to how prepared we were going into that looking at each policy looking at current statute Etc related to it so we feel like we're on track are and so you'll start to see that every time from January on saying and you'll get those ahead of time too so you will get those policies before you ever come here it will not be the first time you see it you will get those um 2 weeks ahead of time because that's kind of the turnaround time our goal is to finish like HR Brenda and her team been working super diligently if they get done by December that gives niola enough time to turn around and get make sure everything looks just right clean up any typos um and then turn around and get that to you before so are we going to sit down like we did last time and go through each one no okay I was just wondering cuz we said spring initially and so and then I was like we hadn't had a meeting a hot minute so I just wanted to know about that also um well and I want to say this too like with our Powerpoints and stuff and maybe it's just online I don't know but the last couple of times when you click on this for agenda plus it's not attached so like these these are not attached sometime well they used to be when I first started they used to be attached but I also didn't get an email about it either so I just want to I don't know if we're attaching it if it's just my point that I'm bringing this up is if we attach the policies or attach anything else to agenda plus I don't know if something's like not happening it's not transfer over or we're just not doing that all together anymore so if we are mine's not being attached and then if we're not I didn't get the Emil no I think the email was only sent to miss hansome since she wouldn't be here if I'm not mistaken oh and and it's not attached but in the workshop agenda it did list ESC would be discussed right right right no I know that but I mean like if I go to like see a form I used to click on it and the form would come up and so I have viewed it before I got here is what I'm saying that's not happening now on any of your agendas right yes yeah on even the big agenda like it's not letting me double click for sorry that was side conversation so we're these policies I want to be able to see them um and then I only have two other things um there will be um oh God hold on Florida conservative School Board Coalition is doing a convention in January registration will be open October 1st and they're teaming up with um is it SB SB SBA school boards for academic Excellence yes that one um it'll be in Orlando for I think 3 days so just a FYI if anybody wants to to do that and then a reminder pray the uh meet me at the poll is tomorrow well somebody said it can't interfere with traffic so you can join us at sear Ranch at 8:30 if you'd like that's oh you want to bring you some coffee I will already a couple cups no and then that's it can I can I ask Mrs the the Florida conservative Coalition do you know how much that will be anything over 500 for a board member should be approved by the board I can get that on I think it'll come out October 1st so we don't just I think um there's going to be maybe some I'll look right here and see if I can find it too but I think there's going to be I think they're trying to some CS might be covered is what they're trying to figure out so that I don't know if all or if some so I soon as I find out but it's the 22nd through the 24th I do know so there would be hotels involved as well it'll probably that'll probably be north of 500 yeah I think so so but I'll let you know all the details I just know the date and um would they cover the cost of Hotel um it depends it depends on I don't know on sponsorship and whatnot I don't know I'll thank you right anybody else is not as cheap as it used to be um Bonnie do you have I'm sure it's out there and I haven't seen it the two dates for our school board meetings in November the two dates we'll have our regular meeting we'll get that until we have our reorganizational meeting okay correct the two dates for the school board meeting in November you have the 7th which is our first the school board meeting and the the date the date definite is two weeks following the election which would be 19th okay that's what I want 19th and I'm assuming at 6:00 19th is the real I would assume it's at 6:00 p.m. it is not Thanksgiving weekend no I will not be here for that meeting somebody else will be here I'll be on well I wanted to say welcome to G Lon for joining us this morning it's great great to have you so and I wanted to give a shout out to constant h b for the literacy program she went to Great Lengths um I still thought it was a success I know she was hoping for more but I think she did wonderfully well had 43 vendors there auctions and Silent auctions and it was fun anyway it was but I also want to say thank you to the ESC everybody involved with ESC um I think as parents when things happen we tend to blame ourselves what did we do wrong um but I remember you know that was one of my goals for running was to because I'd heard all sorts of stories about how admin had cut made cuts to that department and it was so important especially with the military because it's not just parents talking but it's the fact that it was my understanding that the military you had two counties of the whole nation that if your child had an issue clay was one of the two M that you were you were told to go to so we had had great success and it's nice to see that we're back up on that Mountaintop so thank you and that's it just diding on this Clerk's comments about Saturday my grandsons were there and at 9: and said me thank you for being patient with us so sweet um but they had I I was there to represent the valy part Imagination Library we had a table there um but it was the Orange Park Women's Club and also the clay retired there were a lot of people from both organizations there as well and not a lot of students and there were some ideas of what we can do to beef up the attendance in the future but my grandsons had a blast I mean it was they got books they got supplies they were at one point I have to admit I did take some Electronics because I was going to be there for a couple of hours and and when the switch ran out the books came out and so just a comment you keep those books coming out at home G because it it definitely makes a difference um on another point and maybe um Mr boak I'm just going to mention this you know we are very conscious of keeping everyone on our campuses safe most definitely we do run into periodically some outrageous behavior unfortunately from parents and when those parents make our teachers feel uncomfortable I hope that we can be made I hope that we can be more aware of when that happens I know that all of the information doesn't always float to the top because the principal generally takes care of anything that happens at the school and we're all very much thankful for those principles because they truly do give the the support that's needed for those individuals but at any point if we should hear of the teacher's name a follow-up call from someone just to say Hey you know we know you had to deal with a parent or deal with a situation today that was totally uncomfortable um make sure that they're okay make sure that we know that they're okay that they cuz you know when you get yelled at by a parent whether it's your parent or not and nine times out of 10 it is not a child in your classroom I have been yelled at by parents and it rests right there I will always remember that I remember the good parents better more so but those situations where that person came into my face and you're wondering why why me why you know how do I handle this but you handle it as the professional that you are and just saying this to teachers thank you for being the professionals that you are cuz it can be tough there are a lot of frustrations that we don't know what those parents are dealing with as they drive up to pick up a child um or watch their child to school or whatever and the fact that we do have to do certain duties because we need the the Personnel out there it's helpful to have a little bit of backup just to hey hope you're doing well today and I know this happened last week and we're sorry it happened but any if you hear of those things it's sort of if we hear of something let's say something back to those individuals as well so thank you um that's it okay Miss Hansen was there anything you wanted to add she's I think she's oh she off the call okay all right this meeting is atted