the date is March 28th 2025 and we are here to discuss um our city manager applications Um madam clerk could you do a roll call for us please yes ma'am
Commissioner Lisa Devito present Commissioner William PJ here Commissioner Lemore present Commissioner Cynthia Burton here Interim City Manager Michael here
George Financial Senior Advisor George Fors Thank you And with that Commissioner Moore if you would please lead us in in stand Dear heavenly father we want to thank you once again for allowing us to come together We thank you so you watch over
us all night long Keep us safe from all hurt harm and danger seen and unseen And Lord we ask that you be on us today Help us to make the right decision Help us to be in unity Help us to do those things that that is always seasoned in our sight All these things we do ask and
that's in Jesus name Amen Amen With that to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all
Thank you Thank you everyone for joining us today Let's not try to make Friday mornings ahead I know we've got the city's business at hand And with that I'm going to go ahead if that's okay Um Mr Forbes I'm going to
turn it over to you Okay Um we have a lot to discuss this morning but uh first off we did have um six can First of I was very impressed with the candidates we got I thought we had a a really good batch of candidates and we have
recommended uh six people based on the criteria that we've listed out Um remember though that all these recommendations six people two things one this is just based on paper you know it's not based on background checks you might find things about the candidates
and background checks that can concern you Um so that's that's an important thing to remember as we as we go through this Um again I think the candidates we're recommending are all
um all are very well qualified and um so just really here to answer any questions uh about them Okay Um I do have some questions just I can't really figure out Okay here we go I wrote them down
forunately Um George there were can you just share with us um what is the difference between recommended and qualified but not
recommended really the difference is is that even though they're they're qualified we don't think they're as good as the candidates we recommended So they meet they meet your minimum qualifications but they're not not people we recommend You know for
instance Troy Bell you said at the last meeting we just uh so that's that's really it Um sure because there was um you know I don't want to go too much
into detail but I thought there was one candidate um very alphabetically the last one on the list that was who was qualified but not recommended but um there was an
MPA there was um was an AMA member um and a long history of being a city manager Although yeah the problem we had with him for a concern was is that he
had so many short tenure jobs right and I made that note of that That's that's why um hopefully we can get someone here that you know we need to get someone here who really wants to work here who's really impressed with the city and really wants to try and drive it forward not somebody who's just looking for a
job Well um and what you know what was not stated in that set of application materials was why they wanted to come here Some of them I thought did not mention particularly We didn't ask them to say why they
wanted to apply for a job for No I I understand that But some some provided a cover letter that's a little more explanatory than as George said I you know I'm looking for a job and I'm just applying for whatever is here which is
reasonable Um and then there were and this is really to my other commissioners and as well as to George there were a couple on the recommended list that I didn't think really um had enough public sector experience
or enough supervisory experience or enough Which one of those which one of those so that we can um you after going through it what well um the um Marcus um
from Dayton Beach um there Carolyn Carol Yes Carol Yeah Caroline Marquest There's really not much supervisory experience there Um and I think this is the one I think there
was partial master studies and um there's no um the educational background does not have any you know public administration It's all business Um I just I thought that one was very thin on
supervisory or anything to do the contact with really the general government functions which is the coral we need them to do We selected a similar candidate for another city manager job
that had that had good experience mostly in police departments and some in private enterprise and she's currently been the city manager for several years and doing a really good job So I thought that she's close by They tell each she's got
governmental experience and and uh strategic planning and project management which is something that we need here So I thought I I agree with you She's not as experienced as the others but I selected her for those reasons Uh plus I also felt that um
having quite candid I also felt that we should have uh you know real thin on female applicants and I thought that would be good to have at least one female applicant in in the group We didn't say right or wrong That's that's
it My experience was I hired a another lady very similar background and she's doing a fantastic job as city manager of another city in Florida And we did say that they could have business experience Yeah As Yes business administration
public administration Right We we did say that It just seemed to me and George has seen a lot more city manager resumes than I have Um so it's good to get that feedback And then the other one you know we've had this before We've had people on both ends of the experience list Some
of them on our list have long employment histories Um and then um Derek Martin with City of Fl Beach and I think he's the one he's the one that said I note um this is important He
said "Please let him have the opportunity to speak directly with his management before anybody contacts him." That was Derek Martin So obviously we want to honor that Um that should be the case with all of them out of respect because if they're currently employed
they're currently employed That should be the case with all of them until they've had an opportunity right but he's obviously he mentioned it He seemed to feel particularly strong about that Um and I understand that Um and to me he
he has an MPA Um but he has the most he he's got a very narrow focus I want to ask George about that Um it doesn't look like to me it doesn't look like he has a lot of supervisory experience and he's his focus is mainly
technology and public works which is not a bad thing It's a big part of our job Um so anyway that was that was not but George answer well very good observations Um no
candidate we have a few candidates who I think are pretty close to you really really good if we can reel them in and they really want the job here But you've got as usual we've got a whole group of candidates with very different experiences levels and everything and we tried to select the ones we thought
would be potentially the best fit And again this is just based on paper There are some candidates I know some things about that that are that um are in the are in the recommended list and you just need to I just want you to decide for yourself because all my thinking here is
just based on with the one except the one case you said you didn't want to consider is all just based on paper not based on my personal feelings background or anything else I think that's your decision to make I think there was a one from of course from Lake City You
mentioned his name Yeah we know him Yeah So I mean he does have the administrative um experience Obviously there's some you had some issues with So I I I I value your opinion on that and thank you for it Um Tim Day I don't know
Did you has anybody spoke to Tim because Tim Day um is the one that came to town Um and he ended up not interviewing He texted Charles and said "You were too cruel for him." Turned around went back home He turned around and went back home So I just didn't know you had I was
asking You haven't had I know things about him Okay And And um I just think you need to make a decision on that Okay Well we can give you a couple and that was an interim that was for an interim position Um so it I would be surprised
if you applied that I was too Yeah that's kind of how he says he explains it I don't know The explanation is kind of the explanation Can I finish oh sure I'm sorry Um that I know but that was just a concern
of mine Well you should do again you should look at a background check on him too because he's had some conflicts with some city councils Okay Thank you Commissioner D I'm sorry Mayor Jose That's good It's a little bit
of an emotional issue when you come up with information that doesn't jive Um if I was going to make a motion I would not include that prior applicant because number one [Music]
um there was no call to us We were waiting to interview and there was absolutely no call to us Um Charles had to call and what Charles reported to us as reason for being basically
um not present when they said they would be um what was written in the application today does not jive with that at all No he did not So based on the minutes um Charles explained that Mr Day emailed and stated that the town was
too rural for him and would not be a good fit He canled his interview Wow Well that'd be a legitimate reason for not It's not what he says here It's very different It It's extremely different
And to me that's true That's a problem You know if you're going to say it then just say it and be upfront I don't mind if somebody changes their mind but don't run your explanation And mayor could I ask which one is someone from Lake City
mr Dial Paul D Oh and that's um that's in the second group right yes Okay Um well um if you may if you would like a motion I have a motion Can I just
um Sure I just want to mention that Jeff um on here it says schoolbridge and I checked his name is shoe bridge There's no C in it So that's true I just you know that number
on it Um yes there's an extra that's not on his resume That's one of my notes And see I I don't know you know I mean I read that with with Mr Day I don't know
that Thank you Our sound works is here mayor Yes I asked Mr King to have some measures this week So thank you very much Mr King Did you just say waiting for 10 minutes and give us a 10 minute recess
if we need to yes ma'am 10 minutes Make sure that we have everything in order Okay Thank you Okay Session Welcome Jim Thank you for joining us this morning We appreciate
the work that both you and George have put into this Um as I mentioned to George this morning I guess you just can't get enough of this George disagreed with me Um if we
can go back to Mr Day I um I didn't get the same read that that y'all did I understand that that he he did let Charles know Um we I don't think we were really waiting on him at that time It was during the interview process he got to
town but I also understand what he has to say and I take that into consideration as an interim city manager and not knowing how long um to be an impact and I guess that's what he's hoping to do is to be an
impact So I mean I I if he he has seen the town that is the good thing I mean for us to think about and he has seen the town Um Michael Michael accepted his sight unseen and um you know I'm not sure what he thought when he drove in on
that during the hurricane Um but um he had seen the town and then he chose to to apply as a regular city manager So I just think that that's something that I I don't have I don't I understand it I mean I get what he's saying Um I totally
understand Yeah Well so I I don't have I I think that that um you know at least at least to let the gentlemen explain explain Yes I did have one more
question for George and J Yes Because Okay Some of these applicants have other businesses going on they've had other businesses um consulting businesses or property
management businesses more than one while they've been a public employee How common is that i think today it's more common um many managers um like
are teaching school you know colleges things like that corpuses and I think it's getting more common with the younger managers um so it's not uncommon I guess I can just say that I'm talking about doing business but you need to make that clear
when you hire the person I mean some cities have contracts that you can't take any outside employment without permission of the city council and it's it's a question you should ask the you know if if you're there and you're ready to hire an applicant or trying to choose between a few I think it's a legitimate question to ask you know do you plan an
outside employment then you know are you willing to get to get our permission because obviously where we hire we want to have that primary focus of doing this job and um mayor you know question my main reason for asking that is is it
just for judging them as an applicant is that something unusual Does it show a lack of commitment or focus or whatever and George is saying not necessarily Okay Then we would have to decide you know we've always had this be a fulltime
um we've always had this be a full-time position Well it is a full-time So I mean I think that they have an opportunity I mean Michael can probably weigh in on that too He had consulting businesses also probably not at the same time but even have consulting businesses
Um so but you know you just want to make sure that someone's going to be committed to you They're going to give you their full time They're not going to be looking for an opportunity to create a consulting business and then you know hop hop off Um so well that was very
helpful That was one question that I had Um mayor is it time to make a motion yes Um I just Googled and there's a story about Jay and Indian versus Indian River
wanting to hire him and then doing a background check and finding out that he had some disciplinary action in the background So I just wanted to bring that up So I mean we might we would probably find the same thing This is in 2018 Um he was according to the
background check they at least she found out that he faced his plan action by the county school district where he's the director of Southwest Florida Institute for Public Service includes public fire and public works counties He was suspended for 10 days for using the school district card for personal business and protecting personal
business on school district Okay Well good Thank you for looking into that Takes care of this today So right now the recommended applicants that we have before us the George and Jim have gone through out of the 17 applications we have we have the Tim and Greg Elliot
Patrick Jordan Carolyn Marque Derek Martin and Jeffbridge qualified but not recommended at this time is there in there sh there's no C two So qualified but not recommended is Troy
Bell Paul Dial Patrick Pendleton and Fred and Tresco Um so with that if if the commission wants to make if wants to make a motion commissioners do you have any input down here with Commissioner Burton i just have more input Um I I did
not see um Christina Mar's application anywhere whether or not she was not recommended or recommended Did that come in too late for them it's not part of the recommended candidate is qualified but not
so in other words she's just I don't think she said that she's put but they said based on based on their recommendation we talking about the direct she doesn't meet the minimum qualifications for the job right
I think she has a lot of potential in the future I think she would be great she's London the deputy I understand for 3 months I think she'd be great to get experience in another manager and see what happens in the future but uh she does not meet the minimum requirements of the job right now
I just wanted to make sure that the job and you approve says you have to have a VA for one and I don't think she also has the the five years experience I don't I don't think she really needs either So we didn't when you compare her to the ones that are recommending now
she she uh she doesn't have the same level of of uh qualifications So I put it that way So So based on the charge we gave you and yes based on the charge and it would that we we get very specific requirements in the profile and the and
the job description we use those Obviously nobody perfectly meets the profile but but again I think that she and some of the other um employees that you have that have been in been in this area over time for a long time be very helpful to the new manager And I think in the future and could see how she does
in her current job and and hopefully this new new manager stays a good period of time and then but potentially if she does a great job she might be able to walk in from there That's how I view the whole thing That's a good question
I think I just wanted to make sure that she was late and you didn't get the memo or whatever No no we we definitely got but she also another part of the confusion was she also applied for the job then she there's some background to this that I only have a smidgen of it
She applied for the job then she withdrew and then I think after the deadline I could be wrong but very close to deadline she put it in back in So for me that was very confusing I know there's some other things in the background that I have a smidge of but for me that was very confusing on top of
it all Okay No I just just curious but I just wanted to say um I thought she was outstanding candidate for assistant city manager I really value her Um all I see is you know just professionalism and
commitment But I think that George's comments are well taken and we want to be fair to us and as well um to her professional development Um so I mean just she's she's an awesome person and um you know
she has taken the ball and run with it and even even since we've named her as the interim city manager she has really stepped up even more so So that I'm just commended for that and and the continuous encouragement and support of
all of us One of us to make sure that she continues to grow and become all that she wants to be Absolutely It's something we haven't had all the time before either So person somebody who's deputy does a great job can learn hopefully from another manager and then
maybe next time you'll be ready to just move her off That's how I view it I'm ready for I'll entertain a motion Sure Um I would make a motion um that we interview from the recommended
candidates Greg Elliot Patrick Jordan Carolyn Marquest Derek Martin and Jeff Shoebridge and as well from the qualified but not recommended um Fred
Vancesco I'll second that And we have a proper motion and a staffing commissioners Do we have any other discussion um starting with recommended candidates starting with Greg Elliot down to the
bottom That would be those five Okay and then um to make it six because we don't know who might be available and who might not be still available Um Fred Vent Tresco who does meet the minimum qualifications
um but has short tenur at his prior jobs but has very long work experience So he bounces he bounces a little bit That was how I came up with that Okay we have a proper motion and a second Commissioners do we have any other comments on this
motion before I open it up for public comment okay I'm going to open up to public comment Do we have any public comment at this time seeing no one come forward for public comment I'm going to close public comment And um Melanie if you would
please do a roll call Commissioner Burton Commissioner Mo is a mayor Yeah you're Yeah you're okay Yay Commissioner Lorie I
Commissioner Devito I Myers Okay So true And mayor can say I mean always when we make a motion if somebody you know has a problem with it they can always make an amendment We can discuss that but I mean we voted but I just want
to encourage people to you know encouraged to make make amendments Did you want to speak to that well you know I go down through the list and I mean um you know you got Greg Elliott Patrick Jordan I mean they've never
really done anything with Florida before and you know from Michigan Alaska Um things are generally run very very different up there as far as their governments are concerned And uh you know a lot of these people are not uh
accustomed to our sunshine laws and all the other things that kind of go with it I just don't think that they're necessarily good candidates for Florida I'm not saying that they're not good candidates but for Florida in particular that's all that's just my opinion Um
so if you want to go ahead and bring him on down and give him supper put him up for a few nights That's up to you Can you speak yeah I've heard this my entire career and you know just my personal
experience Um I went from I went from Colorado to South Dakota South Dakota Florida Florida to Las Vegas metropolitan area Las Vegas metropolin area back to Florida And I never had a problem with the laws or anything or fitting in any states Uh city manager
knows states have different rules Yes the open meeting law is a little bit different here but it it only takes you know 30 minutes before somebody explain it to you and then you go from there So I never found problems laws different states or the fit there The more the more critical aspect to me is you know
will they be a good fit for what your city needs and for a small town you know small towns are much much bigger much more hands-on much more you have to know how to actually do things than a big city So to me that's my big concern Not that they've been in a different state
or Michigan or whatever My experience that's why I want to show you The shortest I ever moved for a job was 600 miles in my entire career And I think I did pretty good My shortest tenure six years my longest ten years almost 24 so doesn't really have any prominent in that
Okay Um mayor I I used to have the same worry um and I did more well when we didn't have as much I used to have the same worry but I think George pretty much addressed that if to me if they're
really competent as a silly manager they will learn what they need to learn We had I believe when Charles when Charles applied we had um a very sharp woman remember her from Michigan Yes Yes She was from one of the townships there and
um and she applied um and really and truly she was she was probably she was my second she would have been my second choice Um had Charles actually been my first choice Um you know I um but I also understand where Commissioner where
Commissioner Burton's coming from because you know are we just bringing them to Florida just to get their feet wet i mean that's always the thought I know I I don't want to go there but there's an awful lot of Michigan people applying for Florida right now I can tell you that A lot of jobs here There's
an awful lot of them that like to come down retired So you know then you you know you got the moving expense you got all that expenses you bring them down and if they really don't work out you spend a whole lot of money for nothing You know that's another it's not an
unusual concern Yeah that's all So with that let's um let's go to our next um we need to to get some dates as to but before we we take dates
month wasn't the Jim was it like a 24 25 26 27 28 whatever mayor I had a question to me um I know George takes great notes But um I thought maybe we should reook at
the calendar a little bit and also maybe we look at the format a little bit through all that let's let's look at our calendars George Jim are you ready to look at your calendars okay because there's more than
one way to skin a cat To me the huge impediment a in April is Easter weekend Good Friday is um Friday the 18th and Easter then Sunday the
20th and am I correct that that's not really reasonable to we discussed before the 24th which is after that the 20 bring them in the 24th which is Thursday and then having a tour of the city stuff reception on Friday and Saturday the
interviews that's been discussed 24 25 26th of April Well but this is my question that that's a whole month from now Yes And the the better candidates tend to get offers Um I was wondering we would
have two options and I asked my husband about this because his field involved hiring Um I said is it unreasonable to give people um just barely two weeks notice to come
in for interviews and he said no Um so one option to me would be to do the weekend of the 12th or um what PALA did was they I believe had
Zoom meetings and narrowed their field uh after the Zoom meetings I I was thinking I was honestly I was thinking about that that if we could start that if we could start with a zoom meeting especially since the expense I mean we
went through this expense the last time um and and as we all know you know we don't this is this is a big suspense that maybe that we do that with and then narrow it down to maybe our top three because I think when we had when we met
before last time I mean we kind of could tell right away you know who would Yeah Yeah You know so who had what we were looking for for the city having six I think we might thinning it out a little bit first would probably be beneficial
Well and also I mean one thing that concerns me is for um really qualified candidates to make and do offers if we go ahead and tell them we're going to talk to you soon and that would maybe um
you know give them more interest in us We we might have a better chance at not losing a candidate So when I was going through the notebook and I was sitting there even with my husband we talked about that that Zoom um you know that might be a good opportunity especially
with those from you know from Michigan and from different areas So commissioners are how how do you feel about us doing an initial Zoom with these top um with these top candidates um are we going to do the Zoom when
we're here because we don't seem to zoom very well here if you know what I mean People can't hear us We can't hear them Um has that gotten better Jim can you hear us i am having a hard time hearing It's a
little bit choppy Yeah I'm getting most of it but um but it you're right It is um it is hard to hear on Zoom Yeah Yeah So so I'm not sure if this is um Would you would you rather us all do it from our homes i'm not sure I'm
trying it out so that you can you know figure this out because we really do have a problem interacting with Can you Melanie clerk I apologize Um have you with Mark can Mark
help us with this he's our technology person So has he have have y'all has he worked on it at all yes ma'am Um I know we got a new projector and a new projector Um well maybe the other thing too is maybe
we shouldn't be sitting here Maybe we should be sitting at a table Correct With a you know a good microphone and um something but we can't do it the way that we're doing it because that's good That's a good suggestion Try out It's the computer microphone that's picking
up speakers So that's not so we can set it up where yeah we can have some some good zoom then here's the place to do it I really don't want to do that Oh yeah I don't think we can now
You have to have three present at least three So so what's a good date for everyone i mean so we'd be looking at either that Friday the 11th after the commission meeting or the 14th You know I have the 7th 8th and 9th For some reason I have
this blocked off as a possible meeting for the answers So what happened to these dates why dates i don't know I don't have it But I think that's the main It says Main Street National Conference is what I had on Yes December 8th and 9th
I mean I don't know Maybe that's what it is I have no idea I should say that's a clock on but I think I agree with Commissioner Deito that this should be done as soon as possible Well um and of course um Go ahead I was going to say um
we have catfish weekend but today is which time is totally compressed Next week is next week is not an option It's not an option It wasn't an option before It's not an option now And that's because of catfish as well and plus I
believe we're commissioner more We're not available the first week We've already talked about that No for next week So that leaves us with the seventh 8th and 9th Okay Um because to me the earlier we can get this going and I
think if we at least make contact with them and tell them this is the date that but I mean we're in competition you know if they get offer okay I was going to ask George and Jim which
one of those dates would be possible any of the dates would be possible I don't know that we really need to be here for a Zoom meeting I was going to say you could probably zoom in but but uh but um any any of those dates would would um
actually for for Jim or I because we both have the same meeting the seventh or eth would probably work but the nth probably the n I like the eth Tuesday the eth is everybody good with Tuesday the 8th and I just want to ask George what's what's your opinion of us
doing this screen them out if that's I mean doing a Zoom meeting is satisf I think you know I'm a little bit worried about the timing but I think a Zoom meeting to I did that many times or similar thing when I had a bunch of like I had 10 applicants to to work it down
five so I mean it can work it's a it's an initial screening it's not unusual to to be done you have to watch out for a little bit is one like you said the technology that they can hear you and it comes across right number two Just a just one only concern I really have is
some people you're going to find come across really well on Zoom on these type of things and some do not You're not going to catch the personality very well with this like you would in person So that would be the only thing I would caution on I will tell you having having gone
through this now several times the gentleman that had his granddaughter I probably would have hired him had I known then what I know now He was able to conduct an interview and deal with a crying baby um all at the same time And
so given what we know now um he probably Yes He would have been a great I had I had one person be in their car and pull over their car and I was not impressed Pull over in the car Then this one bless his heart and he had there was some
issues and he ended up with a granddaughter and she was an infant and she was not happy Um may I just have one question yes And I I don't know Well first question is for George He said when BJ asked the question he said he's
a little concerned about the timetable I just there's a lot we need to do Um when I say we I mean you Number one you need to you need to figure out what what your questions you're going to ask Number two either today or Monday you need to send one a letter to all people
that we're not going to consider And and you got that Michelle You actually wrote the last one uh um that they're not they're not going to be become you write them a nice letter saying you're not you know you're no longer being considered then on the finalist that you went to on Zoom you need to send them a letter saying this is the that they are being
considered and this is the and and telling them that the guidelines now you've also you can also use the letter I think I wrote the last letter we did like that and you've got that here you can use that as a guide and do that so there's a lot of things if you're going to move it up there's a lot of things you have to do right now to to get it
moving Um so anyway the letters need to go to to to one to say those who aren't going to be considering more the other can be considered here's here's the guidelines when we're do a Zoom interview what date and all that And then we also need to send the finalists before the Zoom meeting a copy of the
budget the organizational chart and our strategic goals They need that information Budget organizational chart strategic five-year goals They need that Um the other thing you need to do when you contact these people for the need for the Zoom interviews is go over the
salary Tell them and I used to do this all the time go the salary say "Here's our salary range You're not going to get any more than I think your top range is 120." I just say "They're going to get a salary in this range and if you if you can't live with that then then you're out you know yet and and Sheila did that
last time when she was making those phone calls to make sure that one of the candidates but the mayor has I have a on my list George's to me I think in addition to telling them um or to asking them rather would
you know are you willing to abide by our sovereign I think we need to ask them are you willing to abide by um substantially and I'm not saying there could be no deviation but to substantially stay close to the benefits
that we have for our current city manager because that was what was very unexpected the last time the was stay within the salary range but the benefit package that was requested was now we're
close out water I think that I I think that's discussed this after after we decide what we're doing here I mean because we you said we were going to have a meeting to discuss Yes what we were going to kind of offer this time So we're not going blind And but George
wants us to George wants us to make sure that we're not getting candidates that won't stay within the salary range We'll try to negotiate that up And I was saying we found out that part of that negotiating up involved the benefits and it the
impact is to us I mean as we're discussing what the initial interviewees should be asked or told and to me um I think we should give them a heads up that when we say we mean your whole thing we could do based on the timing
and everything and we're just doing the Zoom interviews wait until we invite the finalists in and when you invite the finalists in do that you know talk about this to say this is basic benefits here it's not but I think I would wait until the final where you're actually bring people in rather than this time That
that would Okay Would Would it be better to do it on the 11th because that's two weeks from today i think two weeks is probably the minimum that we want to give these people I mean I'm available I'm available on the 11th I mean it's the day after our commission meeting
but this is for [Music] I just feel like we need to at least give her two weeks Don't you think i I you know because it's a Zoom meeting it's can be they could they should be able to be pretty flexible
Um is it appropriate that this letter goes to them by email Okay So we can do it by however they say they want to be contacted on the application We we by no means are going to be negotiating a contract with these are we
no pre-screen this would be this would be the pre-screening and then yes our top story our top story we can we can bring in when do we want to do this the 8th or the 11th right um I would suggest that
we go ahead and do that and let them know that we're serious okay what's a good time for everybody We have a scheduled BRC meeting at 9 Okay So we wanted to do this at 11 Yeah
Um one one question I have is um the majority of these folks are employed Is that a problem do we need to do something in the evening it's hard to it's hard to say Um yes if they're employed they're not going to want to do this at work I can assure you
of that So probably doing it in the in the evening or later in the day would be better if there because you sure don't want to do this at work but you're going to do it at 5:00 5:30 Sure 4:00
I think it's more reasonable early Yeah But they could leave early That's awful for somebody that tries to even come back So 4:00 is everybody give 4:00 starting at 4:00 And how much if we have six people on
the list how much time are we going to set a reduction you think half an hour for this initial i think 30 minutes You might want to leave 10 minutes between them so you can discuss it Okay key thing you have to all come up with your questions and make sure everything
you're ready for Okay Okay So 30 minute blocks and that includes do 10 minutes between so you can break Now the only other thing I'm going to I'm going to say about this with Zoom because Commissioner Devita was somebody was concerned about the
residents being able to zoom in Keep in mind the candidates are zoomed into they have the ability to zoom into and so I don't know that we need this zoom to be public maybe that's just something to think about because if you do it here you avoid that problem when I'll zoom right
here they can look at the camera and anybody who wants come can go sit in the audience but what I'm saying though is if it's zoom if we zoom it um we YouTube so we live stream all of our meetings that's what I should I YouTube so I
don't know that We want to YouTube this meeting this commission and so it's not required I believe what Mr Holmes said is when we do our agenda we need to clearly let the residents know if they want to be here
or if they want to hear they need to be here present So if we could just clerk if you would just make sure there's some verbiage on there to that Um but I do think that we do not need to live stream this one Should I make a motion
okay Um per mayor's excellent suggestion I move that the initial city manager candidate interviews that we have scheduled for April the 8th by Zoom um that we not live
stream that meeting to the public in general and that public attendance would be in person only and to be so properly noted on the published agenda I'll second that Okay we have a proper motion
and a second Do we have any further discussion on this um motion seeing none no public comment Commissioner Devito Good out there Thank you Madam clerk you take the roll call please Commissioner Devito Hi
Commissioner Lorie Hi Commissioner Warren Hi Commissioner Burton Hi Mayor Myers Hi Okay let's go to our questions So uh Jim and George provided us with um some really good questions this last time and of course they asked those to be
confidential Um so is everyone good with those questions or are there additional questions um how do you want to based on our last interview how does everyone want to proceed with this next one
well we need to do what George recommended Ask the same questions to every person There were a lot I mean there are a lot of questions over many questions 30 minutes for this official one This is
just Yeah Right Okay Um how are you i have a question Yes I did not bring my last list questions Neither I can't locate it Let's see We're We're doing this on the
eight Want me to make She wants somebody to make copies I've got Thank you So we want to be we want to pick out our top questions and basically work together and make sure that we get them all asked and ask the same ones to
everyone Yes I think it would be better if we each one of us asked the same question to each person that we don't get confused Right So which happens quickly because we're trying to listen to candidate and
and process all that And as Commissioner Burns said are we we probably set it up so that we can be sitting at the table sitting at the table and we should only have maybe three possibly four questions for this 30 minutes Some people can really kind of get going on their
answers Yes So let's make them good questions about That's true And then also um if based on past experience if we're going to ask people to tell us about themselves I think suggesting that they
take about 3 minutes um is also helpful as commissioner just said sometimes people kind of get lost in that Yeah We'll say we need your three minute elevator speech I thought
that worked really beautifully Can you think of anything else um George and Jim that we need to to consider before we move forward with this as far as background I know we need to do we got to figure out a back how to do the background We want to do the background
prior I don't know that we'll have time No you don't need to do them prior prior because you're just doing a but as fast as you get them need to select the company to do the background checks very quickly and and you need to get them done Be good to have those all done
before you make your final decision on who the finalists are going to be Okay And and I think as part of as also um I I believe that as part of our interviewing that one of the questions could be is there anything in your
background that that might show up and would you need to do you this is an opportunity if there is for you to discuss it with us Um that way that might take care of it right there Well I certainly think that helps
We've had we've had candidates that are not homeless but sometimes sometimes so I don't want us So you've got you're getting the list that um that they provided to us prior I don't want us to
talk about these questions because again we are on a live feed right now Um but these are the questions the numbers um and they're by numbers So if everybody wants to kind of look at them and see which ones we believe that we should add
Yes How many really one per person so I mean um five questions something like that I that
seems to work Well is one question the three minute elevator speech that's not a question I don't think that's a statement to say Okay So that's an intro We need you to give Yes Okay You know um each one of us has a particular question
and we're just going to ask you to give a threeminute elevator speech per question Okay So that is that's a 3 * 5 is 15 minutes Is that correct yes Okay So any discussion outside of that that gives us a full 30 minutes
Okay So we've got these numbered one um starting with one So if the commission wants to go through and you've got 20 questions to choose from Well um sorry Okay On that there's four categories of
questions So it seems like we should ask one To me the number one question on the the first category background on city commission that number one question to me I can I can end with that if y'all would like that because if y'all want to
go into these and I can just end with that question because it's not on here which one number what I'm saying is for choosing the question if you look at because we don't want to read the questions right um but if you look at the first category background ground to
the city commission right i'm suggesting that the one that's number one be the question one of the questions that we ought to ask because Okay Does everyone agree okay So that'll be the first one
Um I think if you go my recommendation if you go down to knowledge of city that number 10 is crucial Yes Does everyone agree with that i agree Does anybody have any other recommendations
well I would say some of these you can tell from the resume like on the third category city operations number 12 We can pretty much see that I don't think we need to really ask that Um
I think number 14 in that one important to us right and then if not how would you how would you address that um and then of course and I really don't want to know
what their what their plans are for the future with this with this particular 30 minute question We want to know what they're going to do for us immediately Well um so you don't like the very last
question on the list i mean maybe I think 20 I think 20 is a is a good one because it it shows it shows that they have So that gives us that gives us four questions and like I said I can sum it
up at the end with my question and just basically say based on your background um is there anything that you need to bring to our question you're going to do the interrogation question So if everyone's okay with that that
will do That would give us five Well but that hopefully that one will not entail anything other than we hope not Right But I'm saying do we do we want to have I mean to me
that's question I don't suggest you get 10 questions If you don't get through them all that's okay You have 30 minutes Some of these guys are going to just be really good Okay So 10 questions So let's let's go back We have four right now identified Then can we please get
six more well two well two is a good one I would say either two or five and I think maybe two is the best because that is Do you agree with two or five i agree with you
Do you agree with two Commissioner Burton Commissioner Moore yes Okay So now we're at five questions And number four is wrong for one Well yeah And you should see that in there That should
Well I'm thinking five is is something that we can't wait not five four two Two is something that we really cannot see in their rest I think Go ahead I don't the knowledge of city I mean they haven't been here
yet but oh yeah number nine wait if yeah I think that's interest like number six I mean you can't ask number six um yeah I think that's some of these um assume that we will have it's for in
person it's for later okay good good choice so do we are we changing or no the city No no we've added we've added number nine So now we have four five six We have six What about number eight
well that one I'm not sure if they're ready for question Oh no Because that that assumes that they've been here Well and also we have to consider this is a
preliminary prep time for that to some extent number 11 because that's not saying let's look at that or or 17 There's 17
Oh yeah that's that's 10 number 10 Number 10 Yeah Number 10 that if we wanted to we could get to question number 10 the same issue I was just like it's kind of it's a little different and a difficult issue but
which is fine because it's something that applies and then 15 that's a yes No we're Oh I think we know this is going to sound kind of strange but when I was up in Tallahassee this last time of
course Commissioner Rory and I were in the same room most of the time Um I was kind of surprised Uh we had a couple people that were with us uh from different cities and and things like that And when we talked about CRA it got
kind of interesting because we have a CRA but there were two of them that really were very much against CRAAS Um cities Yeah Uh they said boy they tried them
and they didn't like them and uh they would just never go there again kind of an attitude They were hard to you know manage basically they didn't then these were people that were you know part of the uh League of Cities and so I mean
um the I'm just suggesting okay that I'm not sure how many of these particular managers have ever dealt with that but there was definitely some negativity about it I mean we built ours up I mean we we've had a good good run with it but
but there were definitely some people that said "Oh no way." You know had a really good run with their stories There is a bill now in the legislature That's why we brought it up Well but that's that's I mean that's
important to us that they understand that I guess they can't have a negative That that that's true that we do have three that you know are something that's so number 12 So we could have 12 here I think that's I I think that gives us a
good assortment of questions I think so And then and then we'll end with I still get to end with my question You know you don't jump in No I'm asking you last Okay we got to these
So hang on But we have we're each supposed to we're supposed to go down the list and make sure the same person asks the same we remake the list and we just go down one after the other Um I don't know that I I don't know that the same person has to ask it If we know
that if you've got that question on there and one person has asked it or if everybody wants an assigned question who want what questions do you want assigned to you Commissioner it's not I don't particularly want to assign a question but I think somebody wasn't me pointed
out Maybe we should each ask the same question and have the questions assigned so that we don't omit any Okay But it wasn't my idea but I thought you're assigned but each the same question So who wants what question do you want
Commissioner Vida i'm going to give you first choice Well I I am I totally don't care if somebody else wants to lead off I'll just take what I'll lead off because I'm on this side Do you want me or you should lead off i'll lead off Which one do you want i'll take number
one Okay So everyone um Commissioner Burton wants number one Yeah you do have that in your hand Commissioner Commissioner Burton Okay So we're going Okay So number one is Burton Number 10
She's going to take number two Okay So Commissioner Moore is number two So are we going to skip you and you only do the last one or do you want to go down i'm going to see what's left Go ahead Commissioner and Floring So what's next whichever one you've got 9 10 12 14 17
20 You want that okay Which one you want another one commissioner Okay So the one of the initial ones in our list Well I was gonna No it goes bur one 10 more No she's going down One two three
Like one two right okay you got to me So I'll take number 10 Wait I thought that was more took number two Number two Okay More All right So you want me to have 10 well we don't want you
right now Right now I'm saying please choose the question that you 10 Okay Because basically we're going in order So then that puts us to the next page So we've got 12 14 17 and 20 Um Commissioner Burton which one do you
want out of those four i'll take 12 since I was it up Okay Commissioner Moore Which one do you want i'll take 14 Okay So Commissioner Moore and Commissioner
Lori 17 Count 17 Sure Good And you're at 20's last numerical order You're 20 Okay So to be And that one may not get asked I thought that one was more important than
the 17 That's okay I think we're good Okay And then of course you know our mayor did you get the contract no I don't But I'm I'm here to I I'll listen You know all these questions
regardless of who who asked it As long as it's asked Um that's that's that's the important thing As long as it's asked I know it's coming Absolutely Okay So are we all good with that yep Um yes that you just keep in
mind we have we've given it half an hour we want to have a little time to talk so if we get to the 18 minute mark and the mayor has not asked mayor you want to keep a watch on that I will keep a watch on and because we want you to have time
to ask them the disclosure I I have I'll make sure that we have enough time and we'll have these printed out we'll have names next to them okay right there so we can we've got the big cloth So is there um is there any regarding
this that you can think of George that we have not covered yet so obviously we need to call the candidates and set up their time slots and make sure they can make those time slots This may not go as quite as simple as we think we because of that And then again right away and I
say right away very quickly you need to choose a company that's going to do those background checks and get that moving also Okay and then there's the two letters that need to go out And the two letters I got I got the two the two letters that need to go out Commissioners if for some reason that
that date if we have the majority of the people not able to do that um do we want to go to the next date do we want to have that option without having to come back together and talk about it sure 11 as a backup
The 11th as a backup That works Okay And at the same the same time on Friday afternoon I think we should push that earlier Um let's do let's do we have to do let's do one o'clock on Friday that'll give us
enough time that way they'll have lunch um everybody can have lunch and so we do it at 1:00 on that Friday if in fact and we'll make sure that everybody um is made aware of that if we have an issue Okay Do we have anything else on this
well George has said um we need to make sure that we get the the background check phone that everybody gets called So my question is do we know for sure who would be accomplishing those tasks um Sheila talk to Sheila and not Chris Tan
because she's no longer she's not as well She's that doesn't mean she's no longer a candidate That means right now she's not being interviewed So no she needs to stay out of that process Correct George It's really up to you She's not to me She's not about She's not in the running
for the job then it really isn't Yeah And I don't think that but I don't I don't think it's I'm not sure an internal staff person can do the background check She can't do the background check She made the phone call to them setting up the interviews I did not that I didn't do that last time She
did it last time Okay And then um do so given that our next meeting is not till the 11th we're assuming that we're going to do Zoom interviews and then also have inperson interviews Are we planning
today to set the dates for the inerson interviews so we can let them the candidates know [Music] um I think that we have a meeting on the 10th Yes I'm sorry Keep saying So we have a we do have a meeting We do have a
meeting on the 10th Um I mean if you want to we can go ahead and set that date The 25th does not work for me Um I'm I'm going to even if even if we were here we've got something scheduled over and so that doesn't work on the 26th or
the 25th I have to be out of town um for um a family um issue Um so I have a question for George he's recommending a Thursday
Friday Saturday Um is when you're talking about finalists is it possible to do this during the week it is but it's much easier on them especially if they have a job correct it's much better for them to do it Thursday Friday If they have to
fly in Thursday after they are get here that's that's one day Then they then we have the um tour the tour with because get to meet the meeting department see the city and then the reception with the public and then so they have that information the next day with the
interview So I think it's better it's much better for a candidate to be on Thursday Friday So I guess my my concern is when would we do this because if mayor if you're not available on a 20 daughter has a procedure might need to
be I have to be down there right so we can't push it back I mean to me if we could have had the inerson interviews 11 12 11 and 12 that would be great that's very quick but you know I mean I'll know
next week for sure but right now that's what it's scheduled But I'll know next week for sure Oh it's Easter Easter Easter Easter weekend I'll know for sure next week if if um that they've got to make keep it on the schedule as of right now that's what
it's scheduled for right because um I mean I would be willing to try for the 10th 11th 12th because pushing it pushing it to May is a long time out I mean there's there's nothing we can do about Easter Um
I mean we can try for I mean the 11th 12th that's just travel plans I think my suggestion is that you play it by year after these see where these people are because I I think you know again they they need they I'm assuming
these are working people so it's going to take some time uh and so I think we you have the Zoom interviews so they know they're they're in the running and everything So I don't think it's as critical to have the next week or anything I think having you can't make
that date having to put in will be I think will work out because you already made contact with them Many cities believe it or not don't make any contact at all with the people that aren't in the running make very little contact until they bring in somebody for an interview So I think I think you're on
the right track Well this is to it down but mayor um one thing that you asked in the in the final negotiations that might be helpful here I don't know is um are they already finalists somewhere
i mean in other words would this meeting be a time um I mean one thing we could do at the end of the zoom meeting is to decide George said we're going to feel we could decide better when to set the inerson interviews but should we be
ascertaining do we have serious competition at that stage from any of these george what is your what is your assessment of that i don't think we need to ask that question And it's kind of as a candidate it's you know what difference does it make well you want to keep the process going and and uh I
would feel very uncomfortable if council asked me you know what do I have other prospects going i probably just say yes you know which they all will No they all do They all do They're application So I don't So I just don't think it's necessary Or better should we ask them
what is a better time frame for inerson interview we can ask I think that's a great question We could ask that You know when when would be here's here's our thoughts on on an input and how's that that's my question That's my that's my second question Good question Okay So I get two questions Okay So we're good
with that everybody's good with that yep Okay Anything else on this George that you can think of can we ask Jim if he has any jim do you have any no I think you put everything you need to cover today
Okay Thank you We thank you both immensely for your assistance with us um and your patience more so your patience here We we greatly appreciate that very
and we thank you and and we're very pleased that we had 17 applicants That was very positive um that that we had 17 applicants We should that's the most we've ever had So
great job Great job everybody Um with that I want to we have on the agenda a maintenance discussion This is something that um I just want to bring up Um I've asked about this for well since I started and and I talked to the county
about it because I drove through there and I saw people out working in the medians and and thought possibly they were even county workers So I talked to East Blacka and Placa um and I talked to um J.R Grimes there with the county and
J.R shared with me that the county um uses inmates um to do a a great deal of their maintenance And he said they've been doing it for quite a few years and he said they have not had one incident
Okay Kind of maintenance uh out outdoor maintenance like in the median like in the medians and the medians um parks pulling um getting garbage uh cleaning signs doing a lot of things that and he says
actually for for especially for a small municipality it's a great opportunity because um department of corrections provides this they're not in stripes they're in they're in blue shirts and they have their vest
Um so anyway um Michael and Christina reached out to Department of Corrections and they said they could be here as early as Tuesday to start doing some maintenance We've got some maintenance over on Randolph that we can put them on The other thing too is that they bring
their own equipment So they have a zero churn they have um a leader But before we went forward with this I just thought it was important that the commission um that you know that that everybody is is okay with this But like I said Jared
Grimes um with the county um he said you know mayor said we haven't had one issue Um he said it's been a great a great bonus for for them and helps get a lot of the maintenance done that we're coming into the growing season
Thankfully the guys have already um they've taken care of the medians are trying to get everything ready We've got probably 5,000 3 to 5,000 people in town next weekend and we want to um look as nice as we can So is there a cost to that there's not a cost Oh that's pretty
great And usually you get five you get five workers and we can set it up with them how often we need them directs them They do they have a they have a they have a change they have they have their
supervisor that is there on staff with them direct supervisor the tasks that need to be done public works will coordinate with them tell them where they need to work uh the probably public works and and Christina okay Christina will be
their direct contact and she'll be working with public works to see where some areas um that that we need I mean even like the tennis court you know I mentioned to her the tennis court has got moss all in the in the in the um
fence that stays there We've got moss over here constantly in the fence over at um Marjorie Neil Nelson And so that would just be a great opportunity to and and our guys We did get my understanding
um is that they did hire the one vacant position this week So I think they're going through the background check and everything that they need but we'll have that on But as we go into the growing season um and and you know and and we've got um
you know I know probably at least one one of our seasoned employees might be you know some of them are coming up on retirement So it's just an opportunity and if we if just to see and we can test the waters initially and any extra
sprucing up and any extra sprucing up they can they can we can do a lot of things Yes commissioner can be that Um my only concern with this is if it's coming to the commission Um and you're suggesting that I mean are we supposed
to be voting on this well I just I don't know if we're supposed to be if this is something that we think requires a commission vote Um I personally would like to have give the public the opportunity to weigh in
on this to make sure that our community is comfortable with this Um I'm I mean to me I'm just thinking this was on the agenda with very short notice I'm not saying it's not a good idea I'm not saying it's not worthy of consideration
Um and I know we want to look good for Catfish but on the other hand um this is a big change for our community We're very small community Um and you know we're talking about our parks I don't know I I would be much more comfortable
if we gave the public an opportunity to comment since we've had it on the agenda But um it's it's very and I understand that but we also I mean the public chose you know they they voted on us to make some
of these decisions and I believe if there's an issue then if there's an issue and we make these decisions and if there's an issue then by all means they should speak up they should they should speak up Yes But um I don't think we should hold off Um I think we should
schedule it We should let people know and just like uh Mayor Meyer says if there's an issue they should speak up call right whatever they need to do to say "Hey you know I don't want these people in our neighborhood." Whatever you whatever makes them feel good so
that we can answer their questions But our city attorney has spoken and I wish we would put this in writing He has spoken about some things need more notice than others And I personally think this is an item that needs I don't know that I mean quite honestly I don't
even know I think this is more out of a courtesy that I think this is something that the city manager um that he that the city manager would be doing and not necessarily us And I think it's more of a courtesy to make sure that the commission knows before they do this um
that this is this is what's this is what's going on I mean so that there was no surprising but this is the city manager more of a city manager decision Um I would say commissioners does anybody else have any input i was thinking I mean I'm okay with moving
forward on this and and getting the maybe we might want to put it on the agenda just as an informant thing for meeting just to let people know just to let them know We can have it on there We can put it on the April on the April 10th just to let them know And by then we'll also be able to report how it
worked out and and how um in the city manager Christina can make a recommendation that you know um based on what they've done this is where she sees that they could be um because she'll be meeting with them She'll be meeting with them and
working with them So George just have I have long time ago consort experience with this but I'd be very surprised if they don't make you sign a contract Um she's talking to them today to make sure I think um right now he said I
think they're gonna he's they're going to probably come down here and see how everything works out and see actually what needs to be done Um you know on Tuesday if they if they make you sign a contract she was I think talking to them
this morning about that as to you know a lay of the land Um that's all I had But they're they're usually my understanding from Mr Grimes is that they're usually very eager because it keeps it it keeps them busy It it keeps them it does keep
them busy and and they are well supervised And like I said he I saw him and I was like "Wow where you know what's going on?" And and I and I reached out to him and he said that's the best thing you know that that they've done And so I said "Well that'd be a huge benefit it'd be a huge benefit
for us right now especially as you go into the growing season with that and we'll just make sure um madam clerk if you would just make sure that for you know just as a um informational asformational and also um I I want to
thank and I know um Rachel you're out there in the audience um the partnership has stepped up and and I'm very appreciative and I know the commission is very appreciative also because they're doing some they're taking care of our pots that Charles and I'm
planning and unfortunately I have been a little um don't be personally thankful but if you would share that with the partnership that we're very appreciative um I've I kind of focused I've turned a
little bit of a focus to the remodeling right now and and I have um let those pots um go to the go farther than they should have it's spring and it's time So we thank y'all for Thank you very
much for doing that to the partnership If you'll just send that out to them And then also for the parade Um the catfish has asked um that the commission be in the parade The parade starts at 11 um on
Saturday Um no next Saturday Next Saturday From just time is running away Yeah Commissioner Burton if you show up this Saturday you will be marching probably by yourself Well sometimes you need to do that Sometimes you just need
to just march down summit Okay But captain the parade starts 11 Okay So what time you need to be there okay By 10:30 because we all have jobs to do My question is and I keep thinking about
this but we don't have time Do we have a way to all travel together and just have one sign that says well I mean in a group um recently this has kind of devolved to us all having our individual sign Do we have a Crescent City
Commission sign that a couple of us could hold no but I will I think that's a good suggestion and I will um I'll talk to if it's okay with everybody I'll talk to Christina and see if we can't get something done quickly that we have
I have a mayor banner They can make sashes for us like my mayor sash But okay we're not they're not using things um anymore But my thought was that um I understand kind of like a band where two people carry it and they all walk together Sure So that
we present a a unified so everybody knows who we are School board your sign But I I understand they they just think that we just join in the parade and don't really know who we are So or if we do it's very individual We
each do it a different way And are we all walking i think so Yes Okay Yes Well I mean we're gonna we're going to be we'll be together I just want to make sure we'll be flowing together Not everybody has good need My golf cart is
um on life support right now Um one year I know a couple we went together as a group in golf carts Um and one uh commissioner uh West offered you know to give me a ride but if if we're all okay
to walk I'm fine to walk Yes we have Um we'll just all flow together if everybody's okay with that Everybody's good with that Okay Sure And catfish um we're excited They seems like they're they're on board um all the planning is in place and so you'll start seeing a
lot more um activity this next week Do we have any other anything else before I do you have a proper motion for item six mite which is um discussion
that's a city manager but we will have on at the at the April at the April um 10th meeting Are we going to Yes we're going to reprint these with our names next to
them Make sure and just make sure they're not shared that they're kept We're going to reprint the questions with your names next to them I'd like to say thank you Madame Mayor for sending out this letter to the our senator I'm assuming that was our
representative Oh we did We got one But we did we did get to see um our representative when we were in Tallahassee Yes Um had an interesting conversation I I'm sure our colleagues would agree that that was uh not the
most encouraging conversation but it was interesting And uh Commissioner Dvito and I also met with Senator Lee Was it Senator Senator Leak's legislative aid okay And as of right now one of our projects did make the appropriations
bill for the lake north tower I think right but that was just the very first draft and who knows but he did notice us and knew that was in there and knew who we were and everyone was very I mean everyone was very receptive We all got to talk about our stuff and it was a an
interesting day It's a very long day It's an interesting process I'm glad I'm glad that we had you know we had three of us represented there So thank you three for taking the time out of your busy schedules and going commissioner more Next year you probably would like
to might want to add that veterans I did that for 16 years and so I um I I think y'all will do a great job at it So um but I'm glad you I'm glad you all had that opportunity because it is very interesting process If I could just add
to that um it it is it's very tiring to travel up there I noticed on Facebook um actually the South um church's free clinic was there with the free clinics um made Tallahassee visits and um your
the pastor Daniel Jones posted a picture of um I couldn't really tell who exactly they were I was just scrolling through very quickly So um Crescent City had someone going up just to talk about the issues in the free clinics but back to
our issues very very concerning to me was um there's a lot of uncertainty in Tallahassee about what to do with taxes They um the League of Cities mentioned to us there are 50 bills that have been filed that would affect property taxes
in some way shape or form um our representative representative staff is that told us that it's his view and there are many different views in the house of representatives Um he thinks that the
elimination of property taxes is in under uh as I say living possibility He also said so I mean my suggestion is representative sat he has eight municipalities in his district Um the
League of Cities they're a nice little book and we really should get one for everybody if they have them available Um they they list in every district how many cities represent which is nice to see Um but also of concern was Roman
himself said that um the house budget he complimented our city of crescent cities were very complimentary of the preparation of our individual project requests He said did a great job We were the only ones that no problem He showed everybody else about as an example how
to do it So then he said do you know do not be concerned if we do not fund your projects you may be receiving money within the world renaissance bill So I hate to think that the renaissance bill would give one hand and the project
would not necessarily be funded and of course we don't know what's going to happen He's you know one of 120 and there will be lots of negotiations but I just wanted to share that um it was really hard to get a sense of what might
actually happen So there we go and We just I mean from a I think we all understand um from a political aspect that you know taxes are well and not necessarily and that's one person's view
but I would say there's more um when you listen to the financial report on TV they talk about the volatility of the market I would say there's a volatility of ideas about what to do with taxes in our state right now that I haven't seen in a while And yes I agree with
Commissioner Lor's very nice letter and very important So thank you Well thank you Well we can also thank Michael for a lot of this Michael has has been a big contributor um to us and very appreciative for his guidance Um he he
was here for a moment and and then he decided to um to to zoom out but um I know there is no there is a reception for him Correct Excuse me Um today is his last day Um it has been he has been
just a pleasure to work with and he will be definitely missed Um he has kept us he has kept us moving forward and um has a lot of things Um um and he still has a lot of great ideas and I think I hope we stay near and dear to his heart even
though he'll be you know four hours away from us Um now that's true But um I concur He will be missed and I apologize My husband and I are not able to stay We have to get to and with the I4 traffic there is just no
choice I'm so sorry about that And in the meantime Christina Marie um we are in good hands She is she has a she has a strong handle on on everything and has been working side by side with him And again most appreciative of her as part
of when we hire someone new she's gonna be she'll be a huge she'll be a huge ground Sorry He or she So with that if everyone is a second we have a motion to adjurnn Do y'all have anything else that you wanted
to add Commissioner Burton before I Okay All in favor please say I I I And thank you everyone Thank you And and George again Thank you That traveled over here I know Um