##VIDEO ID:pkHD7w8zawY## I'm speaking in a normal voice can you hear me okay I cannot hear anybody now I can't hear Josh I can't hear Josh okay though I think we're doing pretty good okay you can hear me okay is I can turn it up after yeah we're going to turn you up in 30 seconds we to start like a minute time you need how much time we need I mostly outside okay Lou we have a a minute or two and then we'll start okay just tell me when all of our all of our M are present okay can you hear me sorry Jean we can hear you and see you okay I'm gonna try not to talk too much but say that again Jean sorry yeah my voice is like gone so it's not that do the best you can we got a uh we'll have to do roll call votes so okay Jean for roll call vote we might need you to do like a thumbs up maybe yeah something like that sounds great okay um Lou everyone on the board set you guys all set set yes y um um okay I think we're good we're good okay great very good thank you very much uh thank you very much we're here uh for a public meeting of the danvers's planning board uh today is Tuesday January 28th 2025 at 7 p.m. uh this is taking place at 25 stone Street in danverse uh we actually do have um uh my name is Lewis George I'm the chair and joined today remotely is Jean hartnet our clerk uh in person is members Jim Sears Tim spittle Mike dulis as well as with Town staff represented by Josh Mars principal planner and so um uh before we begin because uh we do have participants who will be participating remotely uh today we will uh all votes will have to be done by a roll call vote okay so why don't we uh why don't we begin the first item uh this is on the agenda today I'm reading is one uh the first agenda is TR Lane partial release of Covenant a request for partial release of Covenant established on August 28th 1972 which is associated with the definitive subdivision plan entitled proposed access to Folly Hill development daners Massachusetts and dated June 2nd 1972 And also known as tras Lane danver's Mass um now Town staff Josh do you have a um we have a development here I think we said there was a request for a continuance that's right um we did receive uh a letter from the development team that they would um they're requesting a continuance of this application to the 2 February meeting um our second regularly scheduled meeting in February so that date is Tuesday February 25th okay Tuesday the 25th okay okay very good so they' made that request um any uh I guess we can't go into any detail in terms of what the status is and such is there anything did they indicate that what they you know the reason need need for additional time um I think it's all related like you said can't get too much into it but it's um related to the peer the traffic peer review that the board voted on and uh just having that analysis done um and then we would we receiving a memo um eventually from the third party peer review so that's what we hope to do over the next couple weeks okay very good uh then uh then hearing that I uh I guess we'll need to have a motion to uh to continue this um uh the um it's not a hearing I guess but to continue the item yep Uhl the application uh for the partial release of Covenant to Tuesday February 25th so is there can I um can I get a motion on that so moved thank you Jim okay first by Jim Sears is there a second on that motion second um there's a second by Tim Lou okay great so all right so there's very good there's a motion been made it's been uh first by uh Jim sear second by Tim spittle any discussion on the motion okay I'm going to call for a roll call vote on this um uh all uh you know indicate your vote uh Jean hartnet yes Jim Sears yes Tim spittle yes Mike dulus yes okay and Lou George says yes as well okay so the motion uh motion passes um um all in favor no no opposition okay there's one question uh Lou from the audience yes okay we can uh um go ahead if you can go up to the podium and ask the ask the question if you can please identify yourself Bill Brad street to me member Precinct one at a prior meeting I believe it was mentioned that Covenant had expired and that was being dealt with can I ask the question or may I ask the question is the town aware of any other situation similar to this where some kind of an agreement has expired or needs to be altered reviewed or what have you is the town aware of anything like that I'm l i could comment staff Josh can you can you I would say that this is in a common situation but at the same time also we did continue this matter so we can't really this wouldn't be the opport this is not the situation to kind of discuss this matter but we could discuss this further at the February 20 yeah I'm not being specific about this one I'm being I'm trying to be uh yeah no this is not all in comment about uh this is not a common situation this um I've been here 5 years this is the first of this kind or this request um but like I said um we could discuss this your question specifically at a at the meeting that this was continue to on February 25th okay that would require the town doing some research on their behalf um sure I'm questioning the town not no I understand no I know but just because we continued the matter we can't really get into like the okay particulars wait till end thank you thank you okay thank you okay very good thank you Josh is there um uh anything else before we move on to our next um next agenda item all right hearing that I'm going to move on to our next agenda item and this is actually a continuation of the public hearing uh this is with respect to the zoning bylaw amendments uh and I'll read the agenda item this is an overview from staff of the proposed zoning bylaw amendments for special town meeting February uh 3rd 2025 the public hearing is regarding several updates to the following sections of the zoning bylaw for purpose of clarity consistency and reflection of current Massachusetts regulations Section 18 character-based zoning districts section 27 groundwater Protection District bylaw section 30 special permits section 31 flood plane overlay District section 37 signed by law new section 38 outdoor lighting standards section 40 definitions uh table one table of allowable uses table two table of dimensional requirements residential um and just for the the audience just to sort of walk through what what is what's progressed uh so far we actually opened up this public hearing on the zoning um uh law amendments on December the 10th um and so then we had a a subsequent hearing um that was continued to January 14th so in the interim we had the uh the select board passed on their recommendations uh to the um to the finance committee and then the finance committee made a recommendation uh to town meeting following their meeting on January 16th so but nonetheless we'll still be taking uh any um you know you know public comments we're going to walk through the U you know we're going to walk through the Amendments uh once more uh and uh and ultimately I'd anticipate that we would have a vote at the um uh you know at the following the close of the public hearing uh and then any changes that have already uh and there have been some changes I'm going to ask Town staff to sort of walk through as they're giving the presentation uh that were done by finance committee but any um any changes any any recommended changes to the uh to the finance committee recommendation uh you know is something would have to be done at on on the floor at town meeting uh based on our recommendation so um so with that intro uh Josh I I see you have the um you have the presentation up do you want us do you want to sort of walk through it and I guess we can do what we did before walk through each section sure see uh if there are any questions by members of the board as well as members of the public and then move on to the next sounds good does that seem to make sense yes okay so just for context these um the Articles discussed tonight um they are on town meeting um which is on Monday February 3rd so coming up um there's a at 7:30 at the high school 7:30 at the high school so there are a couple fiscal articles and general bylaw amendments um but for this this environment and and our group uh the planning board um we'll be talking about the zoning by amendments and essentially we it started with several more but you know along the way they just some got removed and decided not to move forward so here we are so we have five and I can go through them and so the first one that be great if you yep the first one is uh related to kennels Sor if you could walk through them just in case people haven't haven't heard it already yeah of course so Article 5 is is related to kennels and we were staff and was proposing to basically adopt or incorporate uh all the state like definition all the state definitions of kennels in related in the different variations of kennels commercial kennels personal kennels so and then in in addition to adopting uh the new definitions we are proposing to modify the use table I guess from a policy standpoint um sort of the the most the biggest one although it's not big but just the policy the only kind of policy change is um related to if a person has a personal kennel was uh you know ownership or of four dogs and now it's um five or more dogs so um a person can you know if they want to own four dogs um they don't need any type of um approval but if you um want five or more dogs even in residential Zone districts you would need um a special permit with the zoning board of appeals so um that's we have for Article Five did we want to just do article by article Lou with the board and then the public okay what what yeah why why don't we walk through it first so um so in terms of Article Five um any questions by uh members of the board Jean any questions no no question okay Jim no thank you uh Tim spittle I'll set thanks uh Mike dulis I'll set thanks okay um Josh are there any any questions from members of the public with respect to this article does not appear so okay all right Josh why don't we move on to the next uh the next article then okay article six um um so we were just slightly amending the definition of the word Garage in section 40 which previously had um language it said located on a residential property and we know that in reality that commercial properties have garages and want garages so we struck that language of you know a garage only being on a residential property and then as we were trying to um you know kind of fix um you know uh be efficient with garages and correct correcting them in the BW we we're also amending the use table in if a commercial in a commercial zoned area um if a property owner applicant wishes to have a garage more than three vehicles they previously were not allowed now we're allowing now we're providing them an opportunity to come to the planning board requesting a special permit if they want to have a garage that's more than three vehicles so just a SL a slight tweak to the um to the use table over related to garages so those those two pieces for article six okay and just and and and I I guess I should I should have mentioned similar to the to Article Five there was no um for the for the garages article there was no there was no change um that was that was recommended by by um finance committee that's correct okay got it okay um okay let's turn over for to the board to see if they have questions um Jean any questions U at all no questions okay um Jim any questions no okay uh Tim no questions thanks okay uh Mike thanks Lou okay very good uh any questions from members of the U uh members of the audience yes yes one question and um they're walking to the podium yeah okay sounds good if they can just go to the umum and if you could please in the in the microphone just uh state your name and address nastic lockley Road just wondering how you inform people about the if you have a fourcc car garage I guess I'm unclear on the question if this is people you know they have to put the special permit or be fined or something right how do you inform people that the law has been changed um so what would happen would be um if someone when when they go to apply for the building permit we're we are connected in a system called open gov at Town Hall so when a person like the Contra when the contractor or the owner are applying for a building permit to build the garage there would be a box that the planning office would have to check that we've reviewed the Zoning for this application and so they would we would we would indicate on the computer that to the building department that um this needs a special permit with the planning board so please don't Grant the building per but sorry I made yes no I was I was just going to ask as well and Josh and I'm not sure if this was what the uh what the resident was driving at as well but is there um what about an existing uh an existing uh garage that's my question okay so the question is you have an existing garage yep and what's the scenario for car garage yeah how do you find out that you're breaking the law well that sort of depends we it's sort of a we could go down a path but it doesn't NE you might not necessarily be breaking the law depending on how long it's been happening or how long it's been constructed so but I it's hard to it's hard to give this legislation is prospective it's not retroactive correct that's right that's right so if you have an existing building if you have an existing building you're essentially grandfathered if you're building something new then you have to conform with the present regulations so if they get passed by town meeting so anything that's existing is is um non-conforming pre-existing yep right so great thank you y you're absolved great thanks Josh and thank you Jim yeah thanks okay um any other um any other questions at all from the members of the audience with respect to um the article six um really related to garages no it doesn't appear so okay right Josh why we move on to the on to the next article then yes so this is uh article 7even the flood plan by law and this is related to this is essentially related to folks getting um basically flood insurance for their properties with the federal government and so this is just a whole rewrite of that section um it was reviewed by FEMA actually so that was great to get their feedback and that we that it is satisfactory um one important note to make is that as this was going through the the process the the amendment process this is one of the two uh modifications that fincom voted on and that was we had previously had a a placeholder for a date for the for the flood insurance map and then the flood insurance study so the firm and then the FIS and we had just put a placeholder because we knew that the date we were going to get the date eventually like during this process so during when on fincom vote and recommendation we they Incorporated the date that we were given to us by I believe the feds the the new firm map and FIS will be effective on a new date of July 8th 2025 so okay there was one of the two things that fincon voted amended okay it was simply just a there was a placeholder and then we just we were able to fill in the date so okay sounds good okay so I'm just going to turn things back to the board to see if they have any questions uh Jean any questions no questions okay Jim any questions no questions okay uh Tim no questions thanks uh Mike no questions okay um Josh I just have one question just in terms of this you know the July 8th 20125 date um how how often is it do we anticipate that that that that that date might um you know that that the date of the maps that that might change sure I'm trying to think let me see I something that happens with some regularity or I was just trying to see if we what our date was before we wrote just for context might take it might just take a half a second sure it takes more than more than that that's okay I was just kind of curious to see if there was just without knowing definitively I feel like that every 5 to 10 years might be okay might be a likely uh kind of Benchmark okay I was just I was I was just looking for a ballpark that that answer my question sure sound sounds great okay um this is a this is a public hearing and I'll just turn it back to the do any members of the public have any questions with respect to article 7 uh the flood plane bylaw sorry L I found it just not to cut you off so we previously in the and I Wasing by right now it's July 19th 2018 so um okay so it's sort of in that 7 to 10 range seven years to 10 years somewhere in there so okay great thank you okay great um any questions or or comments from members of the public no okay very good all right let's move on to the um uh to the next uh article I think it's article 8 groundwater protection overlay District yep so this is just it's pretty similar it's just uh basically it's like it's a it's amended map reference uh the map for the groundwater Protection District um is uh slightly changing in that there was I believe there was a well take the state with the state groundwater protection there was a well taken offline in venam so there is in the northern part of town there was a section that was in the groundwater Protection District but because the well was taken offline and when um um this section no longer is being proposed to be in the ground rer protection area so the new map that we're referencing with the new date is just a little different okay so got it I see so but it it's by virtue of of the it's by virtue of the new map exactly okay got it okay uh I'll turn things back to the board for any questions um Jean any questions no questions okay uh Jim any questions no questions uh Tim any questions no questions thanks okay uh Mike any questions I'll set thanks okay very good I turn it back to the um uh do any members of the public have any any questions with respect to this yes okay they can come up to the and John just cross line Circle could you just clarify what is that cornner farm that there's a that's one of the parcels or one of the properties in that corner but it's it encompasses more than just Conor Farm I believe so it is more than Corner's Farm I believe so yes okay and just once again I want to beat a dead horse but is is there any benefit to maintaining that wealth and the groundwater protection I mean could that well be used at some point in the future are we just totally abandoning it well I'm not sure the pronoun Josh do you want to address that yeah I'm not sure the pronoun like we when you say we but are you so it wasn't the town of Danver it was I believe it was the town of lenam um there well that was related to the town of WAM and it was taken off they're they're not I believe they're no longer using it you know to does it belong to danis or to winham I believe that it was a vom it was a vom decision or it's the well was not located in danverse so this is a map you know the state the maps are issued by the Commonwealth of Massachusetts it's sort of above the local level but but again yeah it's it's a well on danver's property no I don't believe so I'm saying it's in the town of wenom I believe then why is it up here why are we looking at it well because because the well was close to the town of danver's town boundary and so when it was a source for drinking water that extended into the town of Danvers right because the water you know um where water intake isn't on like Town boundaries so it extended into the town of danverse even though you know the protection area so you're saying that the well is not on danver's property that's right then really this doesn't make any sense to me then because it's under our jurisdiction you're saying the northern we're removing a well just I I just I I get I don't understand what you're saying then this this is all danur that's not saying that that well what what the words are saying is you're removing the well from the groundwater Protection District well kind of look at it like differently because because the well is not being utilized Massachusetts but isn't again what's that it's either winam well and on winam property or it's 's well it's the first your first comment it's in the town of wenam owned by the town of wenam but because that area to protect a well extended in the town of [Music] Danvers it was nearby right so just because the you know the state decided I don't know the distance but if you're within a certain distance of groundwater you know taking water for drinking that you know whatever it's 1,000 ft or 2,000 ft or three I I just don't know that distance they're trying to extend the area they're trying to you know limit uses that would negatively impact you know drinking water a certain distance away so the the well that's being taken off line was not not in danverse but was just it was close to the danverse town line so the protection area extended into the town of danverse but no it no longer is because the well is not being utilized anymore essentially that protection area no longer is necessary unlike the southern portion in daners where we we are taking water and which is why that's remaining the other portion and and Josh just sort of coming back to this just just in terms of addressing the you know further addressing the question I I I I think that the uh and I and I I know we we we spoke about this at the um at the last uh meeting and I and I I believe even that that Brian zelly mentioned this at finance committee as well is that you know that it's the what's what's binding in the issue too is is the map that's issued by the Commonwealth so in terms of that we're you know that in essence that because the you know because the map drawn up by the Commonwealth says that that that the well is offline then I mean we're following the most the most recent the most recent map right and I assume that if that changes down the road then there would be a a new new map issued but I think we're correct you know we're bound to follow the uh we're bound to follow the the map that's been issued by the Commonwealth isn't that correct Josh yes that's that's that's I also right I think that is correct right if that well was to come back online then then this protection overlay would then have to come back so so Mr bash I'm not sure if that addresses your question or if you have anything further to address on that it seems like it's been addressed so okay all right thank you okay uh any further um any further questions no okay very good Josh why don't we move on to the next um uh next article I believe that's the the sign bylaw article 9 yep so this is uh currently as we speak in the zon and bylaw section 37 we have a signage section and then in the planning board zoning regulations we had a that was we had a section for signage that was simply for downt the downtown zoning or the character based zoning districts and we basically just kind of we basically married the two so that the uh the downtown signage which was much more recent um would just simply be applied um for all all the zoning districts in town um previously every zoning District had like its own set of signage requirements and we were just trying to streamline that make it consistent and easier um so instead of just Z District each having its own signage we just made it much more like yeah just simp simpler and um [Music] so that's what this article is regarding okay thank you Josh okay um turning back to the board Jean any questions on the signed article no okay uh Jim any questions no questions okay Tim I'll set thanks okay uh Mike no questions okay um and uh I guess the only question I would have Josh um so this is really more in terms of placement there is is there is is there much into is is there much substantive change here no um very very kind of little policy change um unlike some of the other things that had more a little bit more policy but no um just the the signage the signage from downtown was much more recent and kind of um some of the other side the stuff that was originally in the bio was a little older and hadn't been you know hadn't been amended modified in quite some time so okay yeah gotcha all great thank you I'm going turn it back to see if any members of the public have any questions or comments about the uh about article 9 the signed bylaw Josh anybody from the from the public um not sure hold on one moment okay I guess question I guess no or no okay okay there no questions on assign by lot I guess I guess there is okay okay yep there is okay I'm to learn about you can come up to the podium and introduce yourself and Karen nastic ask questiony wrote um I'm trying to learn about the signage I know there was a conversation about downtown how big the renting signs could be down the side of the building a couple of weeks ago okay yes um I don't know if that's part of this or we're talking about permanent signs here do you do we like the way the signage is in town is this an opportunity to change that um I don't know how big these signs are the the sign the article that we are talking about is talking about permanent and temporary signs yeah there is you know language for both and so yeah like the signs that you're talking about you know there is there's requirements in here regarding you know the size the size of permanent the size like how long a you know the size and how long a temporary sign can be up and also all that information regarding permanent signs also and in terms of Josh just to just maybe to help answer the question as well in terms of if the um uh if a how does Town staff in terms of work on sort of the approval of of the sign of of signage and such I we had yeah had a bit of a discussion about that a few weeks ago yeah so when someone is applying for a sign with the building department once again we we have this open gov system where someone in the planning office reviews The Sign application to make sure that it's compliant with the requirements that will be that we currently have and you know what's being discussed tonight um if it's approved a town meeting and um and if the sign meets the requirements then um they're they're granted a building permit to erect the sign and if they don't meet the requirements then they have the ability to go to the zoning board of appeals for Relief what generally happens is um that situation is generally when the sign that's being proposed is just is too large that's like the common situation so can they be flashing signs do we have flashing signs are there restrictions on that I believe so yes good y I just didn't think that that big giant leasing sign down the whole side of the new building was necessary it's a brand new building you have to know that you have to lease it right yeah there's certainly timer terms of days that it could be up M yep okay [Music] and and then also SI size and then how long they can be up yeah yep I just hope that people are thinking about Aesthetics when they yeah for sure that was definitely more than the size yeah we can't um we can't regulate we want to get go down too far we can't regulate the content of the sign we're not allowed so so just for informational purposes um people can put almost anything on a sign we can't regulate what the sign says but we can do size like size so just mhm unless it's offensive yeah we have to get into that but yeah right yeah okay okay thanks um okay great thank you any other questions for members of the public yes okay to the podium and introduce yourself and and state your question to Bill Brad street telling me remember Precinct one we're talking about signs what they can and can't say who makes the judgment on what is out of place offensive as opposed to what is okay uh acceptable verbage who responsibility is that yeah I don't I don't know if this is a productive conversation but we can't um as I said I I don't we're not we don't have the ability to do that but we can regulate size like if it's illuminated where it can be that type of thing so yeah well my question it's an offensive sign it's a St it's a that's a that's probably that's probably a conversation for another day this is more my question I I didn't mean to start us down that path I apologize yeah there is offensive speech yeah there's free speech y there's all kinds of issues that's not being discussed about this particular article that's to be discussed later after this article has been either approved or denied um I'm asking you because I can't see we W what I I didn't mean to maybe it went too far but yeah um we aren't able to regulate content the content of a sign from a zoning perspective so from a zoning perspective right let's just maybe leave it at that maybe all right I'll bring it up at some other point Thank you thank you okay thanks Mr Brad stre hey any other uh any other questions for members of the public Josh anybody no okay very good let's move on to the uh to article 10 so I guess um maybe not from a very from a policy standpoint I guess this is not necessarily policy but this section is it the only just completely brand new brand new in terms of the section didn't even exist brand new um prior to this public this hearing um the staff is proposing to um to add this new section related to um lighting um kind of an impetus for this was to try and um help situations where commercial properties are kind of you know uh like light pollution on their neighbors and to keep their light off of the streets um so we were able to we put this we're putting this forward um we had the Electric Division who there are several staff members who know lots of things about lighting um we think it's um a positive or beneficial thing for the community um one thing I would like to point out on this particular article is that this was there was a slight change at fincom a week or so ago about slight tweak just like the filling and just like the adding of the dates in the groundwater protection uh at fincom they voted to um to amend our nove we were proposing to have holiday lighting basically winter holiday lighting with you know temporary nature starting between November 15th you know you could do it between November 15th and January 30th was exempt for the outdoor lighting um the fincom just the fincom recommended to amend that November 15th date to October 15th so they just made that window um slightly longer for folks to um have holiday lighting and that didn't that were exempt from the lighting standard so I think that and Josh I think at the meeting itself there was a mention about you know not just you know sort of the Christmas lighting but potentially even Halloween lighting right so I think that was the the re the motivation for amending that that date so right to to bring it you know to to to bring it 30 days sooner but but there's still language in the um you know uh in in the um uh in the provision though as well that they are um that they are exempt but con you know but provided that the lighting doesn't create dangerous glare or adjacent on adjacent streets or properties is maintained in an attractive condition and doesn't constitute a fire hazard uh and it also does indicate that it's temporary in nature as well that's right yep got okay very good any um any questions from members of the board on the um Josh are you are you um are you finished going over the W standards okay great um any questions from the board uh Jean any questions from you no okay uh Jim no uh Tim no question thanks okay uh Mike no questions okay uh any questions from members of the public yes there's one question okay sure Again bille Brad street town meeting member Precinct one when we're talking about lighting is this lighting restriction of advisement however you want to word it for a business to a business to a business to a res res to a residence lighting to an additional or near resident or from a resident to a business does it cover all of these circumstances yeah it cover it covers Mo most if not all of the uh situations that you described yes there's definitely commercial to commercial um there is a residential outdraw regulation section um yeah it it appears so yes so it covers all those I've been at meetings in the past where one of the restrictions or one of the uh requirements the lighting was it be uh I know directional cone so that the lighting only lights what's necessary not the sky so we can be seen from space yep we're trying to get at that trying to write do trying to promote better better lighting right as you said okay and for enforcement if there's a complaint made is it the electric light division that makes the Judgment no it's some kind of a mechanical uh it's the planning off it's our office the planning office the zoning enforcement officer okay zoning enforce zoning enforcement officer yeah so be Brian Z Kelly it be Brian Z Kelly yeah okay thank you great great thank you um any other questions for members of the public yep there's a question okay Karen nastic 15 Loxley are are the new apartments that are going with the Main Street what if somebody has a sign in their window that's lit can they do the can they do an outdoor uh you know a sign in their Windows sign in their windows I can uh an outdoor sign are you talking about like a a like a lit sign in their Windows to advertise something that they do or something um I'd have to look at like the partic the particular situation I'd have to look into it I can't speak on that particular item at this exact moment but I could let you know but my gut feeling is probably not but it's an interesting question because we haven't faced this really before a a lot of signs a lot of Windows facing the town sure with the possibility of of Hawking something sure okay so just think about it okay all right Josh any other um questions I don't think so no okay and um uh okay so that I think that that covers it right joh that's the last yep that's right okay great so let's go and um uh I'll just do one more does any any members of the board have any further questions about any of the Articles we just that we went through already before we close the public hearing anybody okay he um any members of the public uh before we close the public hearing again we walk through each of the articles but does anyone have any uh any further uh questions or comments about any of the Articles we spoke about Jos is there anybody no okay okay so I think the next thing we'll need to do is to um uh we'll need to close the uh we'll need to close the public hearing and then we'll need to um to to have a motion on a recommendation as well so um so I'd like to entertain a motion to close the public hearing so moved okay okay motion by Jim is there a second on that um on the motion to close the public hearing second okay that's my mic okay so so there's a motion to close the public hearing first by Jim second by Mike uh any discussion on this before I go to a roll call okay hearing none I'll call the role um uh Jean hartnet yeah yes Jim Sears yes Jim spittle yes Mike dlis yes okay and Lou George says yes okay so the public hearing is closed um and now I'd like to entertain a motion for um uh in terms of the uh in terms of the zoning articles a recommendation for town meeting can someone um look could I would yes please go ahead propose just like a motion to recommend favorably on zoning amend zoning articles 5 through1 on the warrant does that sound good okay okay is there someone who'd like to uh hearing that language from Josh is there someone who'd like to make a motion motion to accept the language second okay okay Tim's made the motion Jim has seconded the motion so again Josh could you read that that language again recommend motion to recommend favorably on the zoning articles 5 through1 on the warrant on the zoning articles 5 through 10 on the warrant okay very good motion's been made and has been um has been seconded uh any is there any discussion on the motion okay hearing none I'm going to call the role um Jean hartnet yes Jim Sears yes Tim spittle yes Mike dulus yes okay and Lou George says yes so we're all in favor uh no opposed okay very good thank you very much and we'll see you at uh we'll see you at town meeting on February 3rd okay um and so very good and so I'll be a town meeting and I I believe Josh uh I'll I'll be a town meeting um as as chair and I believe that U Brian zelli will be there as well yes I believe that's right okay and we do have a meeting I believe in a a couple of days with the town moderator just to sort of go over things so um so we will be ready for town meeting okay okay very good so let's move on to our minutes uh Josh I think we have two sets of minutes that's right uh December the 10th 2024 and again we'll need a roll call on all these so uh everyone everyone have the chance to review the minutes any um any uh any corrections or comments on the let's start with the minutes from December 10th okay hearing none is there a motion to approve the minutes so moved okay okay Jim moves to approve the minutes uh is there a second second okay was that Tim yes okay great okay um very good so it's been moved in seconded any discussion on that okay I'm going to call the role um Jee hartnet yes Jim Sears yes Tim spittle yes Mike dulus yes okay and Lou George says yes as well okay okay uh so let's move on to the next minutes which are January the 14th anyone have any um uh uh comments or changes to the minutes I have a I have some very I have some nitpicky typos so um I can does anyone have any any edits or or I can go ahead I think I saw the same typo as you did and I was just going to ask if we used spell check yeah they did seem pretty B yeah I noticed yeah just just to see if we can double check it again very picky here um page two third paragraph line one the spelling of town okay um page four sixth paragraph uh third line from the bottom of the sixth paragraph the spelling of board um page five fifth paragraph line one spelling of board member seers there was it was stated as Spears um and page 12 um first paragraph um spelling of the T me room all right we can make all those okay okay great but nothing substantive least least that I saw any other any other comments uh or um or Corrections on the minute okay I'm hearing none I'd like to entertain a motion would someone like to make a a motion to approve the minutes as amended so moved as by Tim is there a second second by Jim okay any discussion yeah I'm GNA call the role Dean haret yes J Sears yes Tim spittle yes Mike dulis yes and Lou George says yes okay so the minutes have been um have been approved okay so Josh our next um yep next meeting yep so our next regularly scheduled meeting is Tuesday February 11th um as we speak we don't have an application for that evening um there's potential that there might be an administrative matter um but it looks as we speak right now to be a very light meeting um if it occurs um okay and then the next meeting would be February 25th and we would we you know the matter from tonight TR Lane we got continue to that and we'll also open a hearing for a sight plan application for uh fast food establishment um in the vicinity of the uh Liberty Tree Mall so in the vicinity in the within the mall itself no on the the periphery like behind Kelly's okay so on the mall in the Mall Complex in the mall yeah in the mall yeah environment like property yep is there an existing building or this is something that's going to be it it is an existing building but it's being torn down and replaced with a brand new building okay okay um one other good item of that nature um I was asked to uh inform the board or encourage them to attend and or be involved with the um the housing production plan which is wrapping up um there's a meeting on Wednesday February 12th from 6:30 to 8: in the Tumi room to discuss um the housing production plan um and the reason for um the board members involvement in this stage is that we will ultimately have to formally vote at it at a future meeting probably sometime in March so if um you wanted to be um informed um of the matter um we would just staff would encourage um attendance Andor um involvement in that process so okay and um and I I assume that's also going to be on the that'll be on the town calendar so members of the public in attemp yes yep mhm yep great all right so that's going to be then Wednesday February the 12th from 6:30 to 8:00 in the tumy room yep great I I plan on being there and hope to see others great okay very good and um uh is there anything else that uh anything else from uh from you Josh or any anything thing from from any of my uh fellow board members does not appear so from the board but okay well thank you for uh uh I you know for for for participating today and also for for for uh bearing with the uh uh my my participating remotely so appreciate that and um I'd like to entertain a motion if we have nothing further I'd like to entertain a motion to adjourn so moved second second by Tim second uh first by Tim second by Jim I'm gonna do a roll Jean yes Jim yes Tim yes Mike yes and I say yes okay very good have a good evening everybody motion meeting is adjourned