all right uh good evening welcome to the April 1st 2024 Township committee meeting held at 7 p.m. at the municipal building 770 coopertown Road in Delano and we have a roll call please Mrs Patrick here Mr olette here M Seuss here Mr Templeton here Mr Bartlett here also present Mr Schwab our Township administrator Mr Fox our Township engineer Mr uh Raymond our Township solicitor Mrs lore municipal clerk Mrs Russell Deputy municipal clerk Mr Fenimore superintendent of Public Works Mr Warren Police lieutenant and that is everybody please rise for the flag s i al to the FL of the United States of America and to the repu stands one nation under God indivisible with liy and jce can you please read the sunshine St and J please be advised that proper notice of this meeting has been given in compliance with the open public meetings act in the following manner written notice has been mailed to the buron county times and Courier Post and published in the January 4th 2024 editions written notice has been posted on the official Bolton Board of the township of Delano at least 48 hours prior to the meeting all right and the live stream statement Janice oh I'm sorry this meeting of the Delano Township committee may be transmitted via live stream on YouTube video The streaming of the meeting is not intended to be relied on upon as formal Public Access under the open public meetings act and if the technology is disrupted for any reason the township meeting will proceed in person as an official meeting in accord with the official notice all right thank you um we'll start with ordinance 2024-the the grant of real property license with respect to 302 Orchard Street at block 1304 Lots 6 and 7 uh second reading by title only and public hearing uh hearing is open to the public for ordinance 2024 D4 see no members of the public uh for 202 24-4 we will close that hearing to the public uh can we have a motion to approve ordinance 202 24-4 so move second motion by Miss Patrick second by Miss Seuss uh roll call please miss Patrick yes Mr elette yes Miss Seuss yes Mr Templeton yes Mr Bartlett yes all right ordinance 202 24-5 adopting industrial Rehabilitation areas Redevelopment plan for Block 2100 lot 11 41 Creek Road Block 2000 lot 13.01 450 Creek Road Block 2000 lot 13.04 500 Creek Road and block 1900 lot 1.01 740 Creek Road second reading by title only and public hearing hearing open to the public for 202 24-5 and seeing no members of the public we will close 202 24-5 to the public and Mr Mayor if I may the vote on this ordinance is going to have to be carried to the next meeting because it's involving a Redevelopment Zone um and impacts upon the uh the zoning in that in that area the it has to be referred to the planning board um and they have to give their consistency review so it will have to come back that that has not had had a chance they they have not had a chance to act yet on on this for their consistency review so it will have to come back for a vote at the next meeting once they've had their consistency review all right so we will carry this uh to our April 15th 2024 agenda no further notice is required I believe Jan is correct right you get Mr it should be a motion to carry I yeah all right and we'll do we'll have a kind of a motion to do what I just said please yes so move second okay I heard multiple people I'm sorry Fern can have it I said first okay K and fern yes okay okay M Patrick yes and this is a motion to continue um ordinance 2024-the and uh and consideration for adoption to the April 15th 202020 2024 Township committee meeting so miss Patrick yes Mr elette yes Miss Seuss yes Mr Templeton yes Mr Bartlett yes all right meeting is now open to the public for any comments and questions this is session number one if you have any comments or questions please approach the podium and give your name and address for the record and there will be another session later on in the meeting meeting is now open to the public meeting is now close to the public go to comments and reports we'll start with the professionals uh let's start with Mr Raymond I I don't have anything uh specific at this time okay Harry your turn thanks mayor um I only have a few things to report tonight but I have a discussion on zo seaw wall to explain the changes we made after meeting with um scottt Taylor and counc woman suus um The Crossings at Del Lano um we did have a meeting and uh I don't know if Kate is going to have that in her report but attended by Kate and um myself Scott Taylor in his office and the developer pull it pull it closer there just move the whole there you go there you go thanks is that better yeah we have a hard time hearing you down to this end even so all I apologize um yeah we we held a meeting um with um the developer for The Crossings uh Township officials and myself and Scott Taylor's office uh to review the remaining work that needs to be done um we went over the the Basin that was the the biggest issue the Wildfire flow mix uh Etc and the other concerns that I have on my punch list uh developer is going he agreed to address everything on both Scott Taylor and my list um we are getting together some uh estimates for the sidewalk on coopertown road um on the original approval the developer was to install sidewalk on Cooper Town Road in front of the houses that lie in front of the development uh if the township can acquire a u RightWay uh widening we haven't been able to do that t has not been able to get the that widening so we are proposing that the developer put money in escrow to install that sidewalk with our own with our own um means um in the future if we ever do get the right away um I'm working up I I came up with a rough estimate and um he asked me to formalize that and put in writing which I will do and submit to the township on what I it would cost and then he's going to speak with his attorney and it may get into the legal end of matters at that point um I can get the price together but after that it's it's it's legal issues um Harry yes that sidewalk also includes uh the retainer wall that may be needed to protect that sidewalk yes that was part of my estimate um there's one section there that will definitely need some type of retaining wall uh either header wall retaining wall and that is part of my estimate of cost this thank you MH uh the town hall parking lot and Iowa and Field of Dreams Paving that was scheduled to start this week but due to weather that got pushed off until Monday they're going to deliver some equipment on Friday um so you may see some equipment out on Iowa um and they're going to start Milling on Iowa first thing Monday the 8th weather committee once they're done Milling that they're going to move over to town hall Mills is parking lot Town Hall they may or may not get to town hall on Monday afternoon but then they'll follow up first thing Tuesday on town hall to Mill that then they're going to come back and pave those two areas while they go and Mill field the dreams or actually it's grading and f f of Dreams uh and that will be the last part we do and and um as we as we know we we are adding some extra Paving for the trails and what L on Field of Dreams so we'll already have Iowa and the parking lot done so and that way we'll know how much money we have in the contract and we can do as much work as we can do up to the 20% change order requirement so that's a schedule that it should be done rather permitting again within a week to 10 days um it should be everything should be completed can we have somebody from the township Um send a letter to the residents about the speed bumps I know they have an easement there and they requested the that we talk to those residents first before we put the speed bumps there the speed bumps would be after the pay's done yeah I know um and and no I have not contacted them but I can do that okay I don't know if you had to do that or if somebody in our office had to do that what's up to you um I don't care as long as it gets done yeah whoever does it um I I guess probably the the best way would be from the township because you have the contact information what not put them together okay thanks Richard Richard said he'll put something together yeah we'll try to put something together okay while we're talking about talking to residents can someone let the residents on Iowa no yes just as their advice yes we we I believe it's being posted on the website and we'll also notify the residents ahead of time they will also get a notice from the contractor on uh Thursday okay putting out notices we can do an email blast too great more the better yeah exactly all right um cdbg Grant uh 2023 is the the handicap uh replacement project that is complete um we had some issues with restoration and and some workmanship issues which I still have um we're going to be preparing a punch list and having them fix areas that I don't think is acceptable um but but it is done that's just at the punchless level and we're not going to recommend any payment at all until they fix some of these these problems that we that we have out there how many did they do Harry was there like 10 there was yeah there were 10 um individual ramps right and um because the the couple that I saw were just totally unacceptable yeah I never saw such sloppy work it was very sloppy work there we always seem to get the F crew um especially on this because it's such a small contract um and and it's it's it's difficult with workmanship you can't really hold their hand and do it so it's you know you get what you get and then we just got to make them fix it before we pay it um but yes I'm not happy with the working ship at all so my question is how can they fix them without ripping them out and redoing it so it's leveled and and nether uh I mean how I mean how I can't see any other way of correcting it that that's true they'll have to rip them out okay I just want to make sure we're on the same page yeah absolutely there um there's I I can't think of anything that'll be on the punch list that wouldn't involve removing something that's already there there's um there's great issues um I had a resident reach out to me that had the S the handicap ramp done it in front of his house on mberry and his concern was there was a street tree there and they took out a pile of roots that were knee high and like four feet wide and he's concerned now that the tree is compromised and going to die um so it's something that needs on the list yeah on the list on theist on the list come okay cool good thank you yeah that's definitely does have to come down and and I spoke with that gentleman as well okay and um just want to follow up they also have a existing non-conforming ramp that they put on their front door um that I'm going to meet with not not the owner but someone's representing the owner I think is is somewhat um confused and his ex-wife apparently helps him out and does things for him so she called me and and uh I told her I would meet her out there and work it out what we got to do there good make it all happen and the last thing we have is uh the Zer seaw wall um I did so I know it has been advertised um the bid we're accepting bids on May 1st and we award on may I believe it's the meeting May 6th um assuming the bids come in acceptable um we did I did meet out there with councilwoman Seuss and Scott Taylor um to review our plans and how it would match in with his plans for the park improvements um the changes I made I made a copy for everyone you're welcome to keep those and um for your own records in use if anybody any questions you can refer to those plans the only change that it will be making to these plans is and actually Richard caught this we have a detail for tree planting and on the back we're not planting any trees I'm just going to remove that detail so not confusing to anyone um we are removing trees but to replace the trees that would be done under Scott Taylor's project um so we can place them in strategic locations that that meets his plan um other than that these plans are are what's going to be built now what we did was we increased the sidewalk size from 4T to 5T wide um we also the sidewalk that goes along um Union that's existing we're taking that out in bad shape so we're taking that out and replacing that so it's all new sidewalk there we're also tying in a sidewalk down at Willow um from from the from our seaw wall sidewalk call it to the Willow Street um or Del Avenue sidewalk at Willow Street so it'll be one one big connection where the old gazebo was um we left this section I walk out there because that's where Scott's proposing to put the Gazebo and what we're doing now is we're installing since our contractors out there driving piles we're putting in piles for the future that we can use to set the Gazebo on and and build off of um that's why there's that Gap if you looking the plan of of Where the Sidewalk is is is not being installed at this time if we find that when it Scots or the funds Mone that be there for the park or whatever and when we're doing our construction if we want to add that extra piece of sidewalk in we can we can always add that in later um if if we find that that's needed but as of right now the plan is just to leave it out for now um we also uh indicated there's one more tree to come down that was not on the original plans it's a um a Buttonwood Sycamore uh it shows [Music] on if you're looking at the plan almost uh about an inch and a half from the right hand side um there's a Sycamore and the roots are erosion has occurred so bad this year actually that roots are mostly Exposed on the river side of it um and and stock Bel and and and I agree that it may not be safe having that tree there at this at this point in time so we indicated to remove that tree as well that's a significant tree that is a significant tree yeah that's a shame yeah it's already been compromised well it hasn't moved well I don't think it's responsible for us to build a million dollar seaw wall with a tree that might fall because half the roots are bad now these roots are gone just have to it's the river is almost up to the tree at this point right it is well the roots for 3/4s of the of the base of the tree they're still intact and it hasn't moved yeah but you got dead men that are going to have to be put out in that area too so yeah you're going to be compromising even more Roots is that is that your engineering opinion no but I was at the meeting so I can reference that because I met with the engineer yes and that's what was said there is that men that will go around the roof how bad it it it disturbs those I I couldn't tell you right now until we laid it out um and and Scott Taylor is a landscape architect that's his recommendation and and I don't feel strongly to go against what what he is saying do you mind having uh if I ask shade trees or Township arborous to look at that no coming down there's no I can't hear you Mike the the the landscape architect and the engineer feel it needs to come down half the roots we're not saving the tree the tree is coming down it's I'm just asking for the we have a Township arborist that we pay he's going out to B that's the expert yeah let's let's make this you know it's a significant tree you afraid of something no no it's just why are we going to waste Kevin's time with a tree that needs to come down exactly two opinions professional opinions maybe they're not arborous but they certainly deal with this issue in construction and Landscaping Architectural Review is what Scott does that's what he is he's a landscape architect planner and um I value their opinion especially with this project that's going to cost us close to a million at least a million dollars it wouldn't hurt to have Mr cilia's opinion wouldn't it if it confirms I don't think it would make a difference okay so it wouldn't hurt to ask right I don't think it would make a difference that we would keep the tree if Kevin scilia said that it it's okay okay so but I don't think we're going to stop the plan because he's ready to submit it for uh bids well with that being said we we do have a unit price for the trees so if it's determined that we want to take more trees or less trees out we can do that at the unit price okay so it's it's it's not something that would hold anything up at this point in time um so bids are due on the first you said correct that's correct all right okay and we are having a pre-bid meeting um on the 16th um at 10 am and legally we're not allowed to insist that the contractors attend these meetings it can't be mandatory um but I put language in there saying it's strongly suggested that BS attend this meeting um so I don't we'll see who who shows up for that and the purpose of that is to review the plans with the contractors with the biders um so everybody's you know bidding on the same thing and there's no confusion if there's any confusion we have time to do an addendum if if need be um Harry is that meeting going to be on site or here on site on site what's the date and time again Harry please 10 a.m on the 16th April 16th all right the uh the sidewalk Gap uh when we met that the sidewalk was designed to provide some structural Integrity to that part of the seaw wall the upper exposed part is that you still feel the same way with removing that that section there I I added uh additional dead men to that from the original plan and that's still vinyl or is that the uh that's vinl the aluminum that's vinyl there okay that takes a beating want point the change in the location of the inlets and the grading issue yeah yeah I have a couple more uh things that we did what we're doing is we're the sidewalk now is going to be parallel with the top of the seaw wall concrete cap um the concrete cap is in elevation of 10 or sidewalk is in elevation 8 so the concrete cap the top of the cap is going to be 2 feet above the concrete sidewalk even all the way down and it's going to slope away from the from the wall go to a swell in the grass and then go to the drains out to out to the river um I I actually like that better um it's going to be a little bit more money but I think we have the money in the budget so it it is a better better design um can you explain that again I'm not sure what you what you're talking about there yeah what we what we'll have is the the seaw wall cap is is concrete cap similar to this right across um at level our sidewalk will be 2T below that same parallel to it exactly parallel with it because right be flat but it's going to slope away from the SE wall to Grass Swale and then the grass Swale will have drainage to the inlets the the one of the last things we looked at was the face of the wall from from the from the looking out towards the river what we're going to have with this new design is the concrete cap and then there'll be 9 in of the um corrugated wall showing and then the sidewalk so in that 9 Ines um for aesthetic purposes um Scott recommended we put something on that some type of facing um which we could do it with pressure treat it my concern is I I'd rather use something since it rather than pressure treat because pressure treat is going to shrink and you're going to get gaps in it um and there's the area between the corrugated seaw wall and that faer wall will be full with bees bugs everything else so I want something that can be solid on there and what we decided to do was that can be an add-on later on if we if when the bids come in if we if we get we had the money we want to do it and Scott determines what he's going to do with his project we can add that on or we can do it as part of his um project and and like I said the material has to be determined on that that but that's what we're looking at for aesthetic purposes so that would take the place of the pressure treated the well the yeah I wouldn't put pressure treated against the face right um I would I want something that won't B gaps correct and and you know TR boards or something like that I don't know if but it it's it's just it's pure athetics for athetic reason and it will match whatever he's the reason why we don't have it on here now is because we don't know what he's planning on his design so we want to match what he's planning on um so he indicated that he would have at least a conceptual idea of what he's doing before we start construction or at least by the time we done construction so then we can add it on as a change order to if we want to put that little facade on and that's um that's that's all the changes that that we made from you know there's some technical changes but that's you know number of dead men and things like that but um anybody have any questions on the uh drainage that's going to be I guess in the uh lawn area yes it'll be what it will be it'll be your your seaw wall the sidewalk will so away from the seaw wall out to a to the grass swell right and then the swell is going to have high and loow points in it going to the little yard drains that'll flow Out To The River and the yard drains will have check valves on it so the water can't come back okay the other direction um that was where I was headed my question so thank you yeah yeah it's it's they they have on them um the other thing that we are doing on this um from our past experience we are requiring vibration monitoring um and we have it in there that they have to put a monitor at Zub Mansion Zub Mansion is a historic building so the requirements for that are are pretty stringent um and we have that in Spec that the contractor has to meet those vibration levels at Zu then we also have at the three homes within a range that could be affected having them put on there as well now there those limits are much higher than historic building um several times higher but that will be monitored during construction and there won't be any vibrations engineering wise um Tech that could cause Dage to to building um um I I'm not concerned about it all but considering our past experience this just covers Us um the distance the zuberg Mansion is about 150 ft away from from the seaw wall and and typically they they only really go 90 feet with checking something but we're just being safe in this case good insurance policy y That's good Harry on your email this afternoon you said made seaw wall even with made sidewalk even with seaw wall yes what does that mean that's the where it's parallel it's yeah it's kind of hard to describe but yeah well it's it's exactly N9 in below the top of the seawall we'll be the sidewalk and it's completely parallel with the top of SE so it doesn't go up and down and R side to be flat perfectly flat but pitched towards the ground great so the top of the seed wall is elevation 10 all the way from all the way across yep SE W elevation across and the the sidewalk where it hits the seaw wall is an elevation of eight yeah all the way across all right straight all right Harry do you want to talk about the uh photo contract that we have to do for the state historic people Hunter yes yes that's um I'm glad you remind me thank you Richard um we we did get a quote from Hunter research to do the historic work that shipo was requiring um and and like I said before that that's just a a documentation of what's out there they get filed in historic office and that's basically what it is Hunter research I believe everyone got a copy of their proposal but they gave us a proposal it was um $3,245 82 cents to to go out they they take photos do sketches they the documents and then they submit it to the ship of historic pres preservation office that sounds that price sounds consistent with what was discussed a couple months ago it's it's reasonable and and they broke down the time and it looks reasonable to me um and something has to be done that was condition of the permit it just has to be done before we start construction right we're not going to throw away 15 years of work for $3,200 so so do we do a a motion authorizing this work it'll be they're as a sub for you so it we build through you right just like the last time that's correct yeah but we have to authorize an increase in the contract with ER by this amount for this particular work so somebody make a motion to that point and all I and I'll second that all favor I thank you I I and also so that I don't say it again because related to this you have in your U consent agenda first reading of the uh supplement Bond ordinance to bring the total to this project a million 220 that doesn't mean that we need to spend that but that was to make sure that we don't end up not being able to award because it's slightly higher than what might be there and we have the issues that uh Harry's brought up where there might be change orders for the the work on that 9 in and there's other things that we uh have added in order to make sure we're ready for the next phase uh to improve it there's also work that may be needed on the ramp and other things that are not related to this particular project and the the capital Bond ordinance covers all those things so the goal was you decided we would add 400,000 to the Appropriations so that's what this does and make sure that we're ready to move forward hopefully we're not going to need to spend all that on this piece of the project but then there'll be enough funds to take the next step without having to deal with all new funding issues so it gives you that kind of flexibility again one of the cool things about any kind of funding is it doesn't require that you spend it just make sure you don't go over that if you don't need to spend it gets canceled paid back and doesn't actually cost anybody anything so I just mention that's in your consent agenda that's related to this particular project thank you thank you Rich that's all I have thereor all right thank you very much Mr Fox and we'll go to department heads Lieutenant good evening everyone for the total for the end of the month for marsh of police cases uh we ended with 18 total for the year at 50 uh there were 82 motor vehicle summonses issued with a total for the year of 193 there were 900 cost for service with a total now for the year of 2,469 with 96 motor vehicle stops for March with a total for the year at 355 um we had a uh new h orientation on March 12th um we had 31 applicants respond with sending a cover letter and resume um 21 actually showed up which actually is the most thing we' ever had yeah historically we were usually couple five to six times um but they actually it was a a decent Bunch um we narrowed it down to five the last do background checks on to then select two uh we have two spots reserved for for uh the GL County Police Academy in August so uh they came in last Wednesday and Friday were fingerprinted had a picture taken picked up the application they were given a deadline to return that and then um we'll get on their uh the backgrounds they're a little more extensive now with the licensing that was U put in place with the state um so it's a little more thorough but it's good so hopefully um like you said we can narrow it down and get and make this selection other than that doing pretty well great good thank good time Mr fenmore yes good evening um we started off with our brush pickup and we only did 24 yards which is pretty small but uh being the past couple months we've been making up for here the storms and stuff and picking stuff up um I started to fill in the softball the girl softball field um around the first base there where it was pretty bad I brought some dirt in there and filled it in and it seems like it's working but I still got to do a little bit more I asked Steve stop in and he took a look at it thought it looked pretty good um we deliver 30 yards of mulch you I'm sorry John you talking about West or Field of Dreams Field of Dreams down well it's s West Avenue as well yeah yeah down West yeah field of yeah uh 30 yards of mulch and we did 10 yards of compost we replaced 18 stop signs uh they started to get faded we replace them we take them down to the uh place in the violent and they redo them saving us money from getting the whole sign done so we take the old ones down and take them down and we get the new ones and um that's how we do that um they delivered our new sweeper and we just got it register today and hopefully uh we're not going to get it out this week but it's going to get out there um I would like to get a sign put up on the side of it um before we do it I'll make sure everybody sees it I just thought your tax doll at work um shared service Beverly City Delano Township put it on either side if uh you know before we do it because they we we we got to put it on the side of the the vehicle both sides so we got to make sure that the writing however we put it on is going to fit the space that we got to put it so John is there going to be like a street sweeping schedule at all that people have to move their cars well soon as we get it started um we we you know Bobby knows where he's been uh but this is a uh I'm looking forward to because uh it it can only help us for all the silk and the debris that goes down and into the river and we're having this tremendous amount of flooding that people don't realize that all this little bit 50 years from now makes a big difference so hopefully we can solve some of that so John I think what Carolyn meant was an actual schedule you know how we do the schedule we yeah we'll start scheduling it okay so that people know that they go park their cars on the street a lot of you know we're just hoping we can get we we'll be able to get by pretty quick and in some of the streets like your Vine Street uh walers Washington we're going to have to post them some streets we can you know buttonwood's going to have to be posted so we'll have to do one side at a time and it's going to be a pain in the neck but we're just going to get R down and and and hopefully we'll we'll get around quicker now I mean they should be cleaner um and that's going to be you know I'm looking forward to seeing nice clean streets no um weeds growing up in the curves yes uh the storm drains filling up and this is all important with all these storm were regulations yeah does it make sense to divide the town into sections and put signs out and they know like Tuesday between 10 and 1 streets we we're going when we we get started we're going to start on the little side um over Hickory malberry and Union over there because Bobby said he didn't get there the last time so he wants to start there and get you know started in there good um we uh we removed four truckloads of debris from Newton's Landing ditch the ditch keeps filling up because of all the debris that's cut and when all this rain has been floating up floats to the drain and clogs actually clogs the drain up we've actually made four dump truck loads of just grass that's washed down into the pipe uh I don't know what we can do I saw they had a nice little fire there would that would be an ideal thing to you know how that that control burn out there that would be I know that is the ditch what is the ditch the Bas you're talking about B Landing the Basin out of noon's Landing it's not the Basin that has the meadow yeah it is that that that from being cut what happens it leaves and then all this rain picks it up and takes it all down to the drain and it stops the drain up and putting it to the side so we finally had to get in there with three guys and load it all by hand cuz there's no way you can you know do it but I mean just letting you know there an ongoing problem with this I thought we only cut that once a year yeah and that's still builds up the cutting from last fall y just cut it once a year right in November or something and that's you know they they cut it tall so there's nothing I mean when you're cutting brush it's foot high what do you think you're going to do you can't not much you can do with it yeah you know you're getting underneath of it and it just lays the water comes fills it up and takes it all down to the drain so it's just I just wanted you know there's a little problem there they cleaned up when they cut it um wouldn't it be easier John if they cleaned it up when they cut it how they going to that how are they going to do that because they leave it how high after they cut it it's still a foot higher high or 6 in no yeah it's probably about 6 in I think it's 6 in yeah it's it's a very difficult like I say when you get brushed this High 3 to four foot high what can you do with it well if you're cutting the bottom cut the bottom you run it over and it cuts it long that's the problem it's not like cutting grass where it blows it just matchs down yeah I just think it would be easier to clean it up while it's being cut I know I wish they could but now you going to do that I don't know I mean if I'm cutting grass or something and there's something left behind I get in there and clean it up now be rather than wait until can we cut it twice a year like once in the spring and once in the fall would that help we used to but I think we had a problem with a with the uh farmer who was ever cutting it well he when he did it see it depends what he brought a big tractor in so he was able to really cut it and with the with the other guy that cuts it they you know they don't have a big machine like he does oh need a hay rake yeah a hay rake who does that now um uh the people that do new Landing a reality he no uh what is it um thought it Riverton wasn't it Riverton oh Riverton no I thought it was reality that yeah reality real estate reality okay reality does cuz I contacted them they do they do a nice job but it's like I say it's it's a big job it's a really a big job yeah but when the farmer come in he had a 12 foot yeah he makes you know men meat of it just doesn't make sense um turn the leaves and uh while I was finishing the last row de shows up what and I said well it's luckily you wasn't here 3 hours earlier I said well you would have filled your pad up you know you said that to him I could not believe it was last Monday I was I I could not believe it and didn't find anything everything was okay but uh you know's with everybody's compos say with all this rain you you cannot have water in between your roads you know and they just don't like that and it's very hard to stop unless you got really good level ground but um he did okay then the following Friday I went to a seminar for d for the compost s and all the nice new regulations that I have to do uh I have to take a um I got take the temperature of the leaves now once a week oh my God what I have to get a a 42 in thermometer I had to stick it in so if somebody sees me up there I'm not going crazy yet but this is what I got to do are you going to be adoped now or what and you know I every every these seminars they go to they tell you well you can't put no millings and we went to a a um site in Hamilton well the site must have been it it the site was as big as from Kaiser gypson all the way into Beverly I mean it was probably 15 20 maybe even 20 acres that's how big it was wow and it's it's a big facility in every inch of that property there's nothing but millings but they tell you you can't put Mill in there because you know they don't like the oil run off and all but there's this whole site that's filled just filled with millings so do what we say not what we do yes but uh it was uh you know it was a I I just I don't understand why D doesn't put this on instead of Ruckers puts it on so what are you going to do um we had a tree come down uh down behind janus's house there that uh that Top Notch cleaned up for us that storm last week on the beaver yeah back on Beaver Avenue yep and 719 we've been having problems with the uh storm drain and I got a price from um Route 24 that was like $4,000 just to stick the TV Camera down in and clean it all out unfortunately we we know somebody whose husband happens to work for another Township that conveniently brought over their camera shared services and shared servic shared service and it was pretty nice and uh we do have a problem in the middle we've hit something very hard both directions so I don't know he's going to uh come back this week and stick TV line back down in it and see exactly what the problem is but there is a problem there is a blockage of some some sort and I we can't figure it out yet until we can really see it with the camera and that's all all right John if you have another line on that sign for the street sweeper maybe put to comply with New Jersey storm water regulations or yeah some flowery thing cuz that's really the driver of the whole thing um John I did have a request from a resident on team in circle if we could get the sweeper out there to clean the garbage juice up that the trucks it doesn't clean garbage juice up they said it was from last Thursday when it was raining and it happened trust me I had it in front of my house and I had it on Del it's I don't know what it is we going to have to take uh a little bit better look at what's what's happening with this truck CU it w Lane got hit again yeah it's disgusting I don't know what it is I don't know it looks like to me looks like hydraulic oil well stra that smells like trash it's not it's not oil I mean my well I had a complaint SE Kate I've seen a lot of garbage juice a lot of garbage juice in my time I guess you have and it doesn't shine but it oil gives a Sheen off oh and and when I had when you should have seen the sheen that was in front of my house I'm like are you kidding me I mean it had to be 6 I'll show you the photo afterward that the resident had sent me there's lot of juice or whatever you want to call it so I'll show you I think what we got to do we got see by law they're not supposed to there's a plug on the bottom of that uhuh some people let the plug out you know it's not supposed to come out like that I mean you know poor out but it looks like every place that they stop it drains out so that's why it's either hydraulic leap or something we're going to have to really because it's it's it's getting bad it's getting bad right we're trying to clean the streets and hear her contaminated can we can we send an email and complain about that officially put it on record let them know to the yes yeah to the company and I also I also would like to also which really infuriates me they they put the can upside down it wouldn't be a problem all the TR they made sure all the stuff was out right you know and I I mean Mike I you know I'm guilty of that but I mean everywhere you go we get the town cleaned next thing you know recycling day and then trash day and the streets look all Filthy again I I don't know I noticed on my street that they are leaving the trash can upright they aren't they are doing that cuz I know you had to asked them about that I I know on my street they've been leaving them upright yeah well we'll have to we'll make sure we have to send a letter to him and tell him that this are some of the problems we've been having and we wanted to know what you know get done yeah I see our trash coordinator taking notes so I'm sure she'll be hanging on that for us that's all I have thank you in advance thank you John thanks all right uh Mrs lore anything from the clerk's Department not spe specifically from the clerk's Department but I just want to confirm John this is April 1st and for two weeks your leaf spring leaf clean up April 4 so y okay so um this is our spring cleanup first two weeks in April so residents um um are reminded that if they have any lease that they've been storing over the winter get them out so Public Works can get them are you yeah are you still picking up brush because I see a lot of brush out too it's late pardon what it was late oh late brush the different the brush was out it was picked up but if it's not it was late so you did a pass through the whole town you're going to do it again you got my block up a week early so yeah we we go out a couple days ahead of when there's a lot of you know stuff out try to get it because it takes about six days sometimes to get through the down even sometimes longer so if we go out like the week before you know people put out and we try to help out help ourselves out so the end of the month again for brush though yeah good okay and then I see that be has some flyers and alternative to her to be able to go over some events that are coming up this month and uh anything else she has um Saturday April 27th and the deadline your home is ail we have clean day and oure EV on Saturday May 4th um event take place here at Municipal parking lot and commity clean up over at the public garage and they will have dumpsters for all sorts of things electron large it lar it there a Lim of TV [Music] El we'll be doing the hogi sale at the firehouse that day as well the art sale right yeah the art sale yeah the week before no no you're not going to throw them out you're come to the yard s day brush pickup no hogy sale during brush no hogi sale during brush pickup but I'm sure Jonica picks them up and uh he could give them away to the guyss all right thank you all right we're going to go to the consent agenda items May you missed me oh I miss Richard I got a list this big if you guys want to leave go ahead I got a long list here April fools go ahead Richard your turn not my turn let's get things done here thank you uh it's not in correspondence but I'd sent you this letter that we received from uh uh Reverend hodgin of the fountain Life Center who sent uh thank you checks for both our fire department and our Police Department for the work they did in saving their building and so we passed on the fire department one to them and the one for the police department uh the lieutenant and the chief and I will talk about where that's going to get spent we do that against their OE I want to report that uh as we mentioned before the governor finally signed the new affordable housing Bill package that's been back and forth and you guys have talked about so you'll have to decide how you want to organize to deal with when the state tells us uh how we got to deal with complying so that's something that uh you'll have that discussion about um you're all aware we question came up about the brick around trees on Burlington Avenue uh the Dobbins church is the first example where the question is who's responsible for that brick when the the tree roots lift them up and back when we adopted the uh sidewalk ordinance the the question was kind of passed as to whether that should be the township because the township with a grant put that in or whether the property owner is responsible for doing that uh we got a price John got a price from the paver that did the work for the shade tree commission to fix that and but the the question becomes a policy question as to whether or not you want to deal with it on a case-by Case basis or in general if there is an issue dealing with uh tree roots and and sidewalk bricks whether that should be the township whether it should be the shade tree commission or whether it should be the property owner so I don't know what kind of direction or how you want to talk about it tonight or talk about it later or something like that but uh uh we need some direction at some point well that slide B's been like that for a few years now I think it's time to get it done it's for $400 might as well just do it not going to dve it out anymore you know the church is a nonprofit it's not like they have a lot of funds to just go out and fix a sidewalk that the township if it was not a church would you feel the same way I don't know but I think I remember when the grants came through and we did those sidewalks and I think there were some concerns um from the property owners as to who would maintain them and it it is a because some grass is growing through some they're not being maintained obviously um I I to commit the township but I think in this particular case Township tree is causing it we can't doing and and it's a it's a pretty big tree um and it's a church I mean people go to church there all the time but I think it's going to be a liability to us as well I say fix it yeah I agree yeah we we put the bricks in I think we need to come up with a policy yeah on on the you know the long term we need to come up with a policy whether you know we have a policy for when a when tree roots affect a concrete sidewalk we should certainly have one for the brick ones what that policy is we need well the policy is that you replaceing kind question is do you have the property owner be responsible for it or the township responsible for it is it different because it's the bricks that were put in under that Grant by the township or is it different because of some other reason so not knowing how to react I'm not necessarily I mean be great if everyone says yeah go do something and we just do it but you have a policy is you might want to discussing is this the bricks on Burlington Avenue corrects on Burlington Avenue on Union no Burlington I think there a couple issues here also CU you have in your code your adopted code you have specifically about sidewalks that the contiguous property owner is responsible for the uh maintenance of the sidewalk in the in the right of way it doesn't differentiate between whether it's a a a concrete sidewalk or a brick sidewalk so that's the first thing and the code does say that you have to replace the property owner has to replace in kind so you do have that codified as to what our what our policy is currently for side walk replacement now the question also becomes though is a the church property where these this brick sidewalk is contigous it's considered uh commercial because um that automatically goes to the property owner if it's if a if the church is considered commercial but there is already on the books where you have um taking advantage of or I should say this New Jersey statute provides that the uh maintenance and repair of sidewalks can be um put on the contiguous property owner residential property owner and that's what you did in our code as you said you know under this statute we're putting that on the um contiguous property owner again we don't differentiate between brick or whether a concrete so if you do want to um you know change that policy which you state in your code um that's something like like Richard's right you'd have to have that discussion and then amend your code so property owners have to put their own sidewalks in in front of their property no not necessarily not put them in the township all the time put sidewalks in in front of private property in the right of way where there is a right of way um developers put them in uh townships can do them under projects but as far as their maintenance and repair we have the township has through our code adopt an ordinance that says property owner because state law and see correct me if I'm wrong state law um allows us to shift that maintenance requirement to the prop contiguous property owner you have done that but you currently do not differentiate between brick and concrete and I'll let Steve um correct me if I'm wrong no that that's all an accurate statement of um what the state of the law is and then and then also specifically in Delano because I you know I know from working on other matters that that you do have that provision in your code I don't know enough about this property I know Richard mentioned that that there may have been some um Township money that that for through a grant that put in put in the the the bricks and there maybe it might be a shade tree involved here so I mean there there could be a reason to deviate from that policy and and possibly even deviate specifically for this property where you don't necessarily have to revise the revive the whole revise the ordinance um but I think we I I want to look at that issue a little closer as to this specific property um and and you know perhaps come back and and give and give some direction um you know because again I don't know anything about this the history of this and the other thing that the township has adopted is is that um cost share program um for and it's in our code also up to $100 per panel can be reimbursed to the property owner um by the township when it's determined that a tree uh Township tree has caused that heave spall whatever you know um whatever the the problem problem is and you know we've had um residents take advantage of that again if the township wants to deviate like like Steve said from what our code says um you have every right to do that for on a caseby casee basis so this was a grant that they got to to do p brick papers along all of Burlington Avenue in in a portion of the town so it wasn't I was he but that's what I'm told yeah it it was back in yeah 2002 or three or four I'm not sure exactly when but yes we did um we did two different phases phase one was across the bridge Gateway Park up through um probably L Deli and then phase it may have even gone to the bend and then the other phase was um up past the school the school turned down they did not want any bricks Joe Miller was the uh Superintendent at the time the school didn't want brick sidewalk they put in their own sidewalks um so we went all the way up to I leave um Burlington Avenue and Cooper Street on the one side and so it is a shade tree it is a church which is a nonprofit and the shade the tree is obstructing the is making the bricks come up it is a trip Hazard and I think it's a different situation it's not a lock of cement that you know the concrete pad that you can get reimbursed for this is just a a few bricks that needs to be replaced the cost was like $400 John from Paradise was it Paradise yeah do they have to ramp it or grind any Roots up to just have well they might have to coup they're going to have to do something coule little Roots yes I I would one thing I would add just from a liability standpoint it it it certainly if the if there is a trip Hazard there um the township could could be liable for any any trip Hazard so um you know particularly because because it's not a commercial property um even even though you have the ordinance that says it's it's the adjacent Property Owners responsibility to maintain because it's not commercial you're still you're still actually liable for any um potentially liable for for any any Hazard that's that that uh would happen so there there could be some basis there to uh to get the um repair started and then and then again you could um I think under your ordinance you have the ability to lean the property owner if you wanted to I don't know whether that makes sense here or not um but that would that is an Avenue as well but it might make sense to to get the repair started sooner rather than later because there is that known hazard out there right and because it's it's brick uh that the township did this Grant on it's not a sidewalk so how do you differentiate a brick pad from maybe 50 bricks I I don't even know if it's 50 bricks John is it about 50 at the most for what for the repair at the church corner it's not even bricks yeah might be a dozen or so yeah so I just say fix it I think you're excuse me John when they uh the base underneath the bricks did they put concrete uh base no was sand I think it's a sand a PO stuff that they put underneath the sand yeah you don't put because it was a public sidewalk I wasn't sure whether the base was uh some type of concrete or something solid and then they laid the bricks on top of that no cu the roots would have been able to if so I don't know that the roots would have lifted up just a couple bricks I think the main significant difference is and as Kate led to you know we're not talking about a huge slab that we need to replace we're talking about replacing yeah grinding this the route of Something's needed or just just putting them back in and resetting the bricks you're not talking about a ton of money like where you would be where you're replacing a whole concrete pad right $400 but I think in a matter of public safety we just need just get it done yeah can I make a motion to do that yes I think you just did and I was second it uh we need a roll call on that you can do it all in favor all in favor all in FA I opposed okay thank you go get it done John I was looking for um the next thing I have is the assessor uh as I reported to you we have our assessor is retiring as of May 1st and we've been spending the last couple months doing uh recruiting and we uh put together uh names and we reviewed it with everybody and the recommendation is that you appoint Shan gasal as the municipal tax assessor to replace Joe rayment effective uh on um May 1st for this year for four-year term I'm sorry to to I'm sorry to fill it finish this four-year term uh and we've discussed to that is Janice has a base uh resolution that we can do and if uh everyone's in favor of that we didn't know until earlier today that this was going to be how we're going to go and if so we can do a resolution to point uh Sean gasal who's currently the assessor in uh Galloway and will shortly become the assessor in Medford which is replacing Joe there so we' have continuity in that case and we'll deal with the uh deputy assessor uh uh when that position is available so if everyone's in favor uh Janice you could do the resolution and read it well actually the number of that resolution then would be uh 2024 69 you just want to add it to the consent agenda everybody's okay with that that be okay Steve that works yep y to add that to the consent so we'll add to the consent agenda since you haven't done that yet the consent agenda yet 2024 -69 appointing tax assessor um to fill unexpired term to and I misplaced my um it's effective May 1st for the unexpired fouryear term through June 30th 27 Sean Gasco 630 2027 unexp term effective May 1st you said correct okay 2024 to 630 2027 Sean gas correct correct okay you're going to add that very good okay okay so that is added to the consent agenda okay as resolution 22469 okay the other thing I just want to mention that's going to be on the consent agenda two things one is that you've got the appointment of a new police officer Lieutenant is working diligently to get all the paperwork for his transfer so we thought we'd make the appointment we mentioned to you before at this meeting so that when everything's finally done we can get that officer started rather than wait till the 15th and find he might be available sooner the other thing that's on there that you saw on Harry's written report is he updated the uh storm water mapping proposal so there's a it's the maximum is 25,000 that's what the state grant money is but there is a unit price and a cost so maybe it'll be less maybe but even if it's more it's going to be 25 so that was what we were holding that up for so that's uh on your agenda and the last thing that I wanted to bring up here uh the we were hoping to avoid having this discussion I think was the uh application to the state uh for special funds uh the uh Senator Singleton's office has asked all the municipalities in district 7 to submit any ideas for uh any funds that he could earmark and uh we I gave you a based on the input I got from you I gave you a list and made some suggestions and different people had various suggestions as to what we're going to submit some of it had to deal with whether we include school projects or not school projects um so the things that that uh we had talked about uh we one of the suggestions was made that we should uh include the construction of the additional pedestrian ramps that we might not get funded through cdbg uh there's the question of funding the rest of the items are generally in your your capital budget for not necessarily this year but a future year the development of Waterfront Park that we were talking about earlier behind the new seaw wall uh the hicker street storm store replacement that uh Harry has indicated is going to need to be done uh next year uh the DPW pole barn for the shelter work we've talked about that for a number of years but there's so many things we need to do in advance we got haven't gotten to it so the things that are in the budget which are to do the fuel system and to do the uh overflow system and so on need to be done now with the fing you have but the next step would be the pole barn uh there was a suggestion that we use perhaps some of this money to pursue what we've talked before about 401 Creek Road there was a property near 200 Dash that might be available if somebody wanted to instead ask for money for that because there was no money before and then there was discussion of things dealing with the library so the senator singles office I got to get that out to them in the next two days uh they're asking for two or three projects of a maximum of 350,000 um one to three they call so I'm not sure what we're going to end up getting whether you want to do priorities whether you just say here's the list and you pick it out which is what we're talking about so I need some uh directions see if we can get some consensus here so that I can get this thing out and make sure that at least we're in line to get money if it's going to be made available to us we had also asked the school if they had some projects and this was in my mailbox did you get this directly yeah I spoke to them they don't have any numbers you have to have a number have to have a dollar amount some of them then they were supposed to get that back to us did and I guess you put this in my mailbox everybody yeah Carolyn said she didn't get it oh I thought put everybody's mailbox I apologize so we can't submit any of these because they don't have any cost they need a cost they need a cost estim if you said to me that whatever their numbers are if there are three of them that are around 350,000 that you'd put as a higher priority than any the others things call them tomorrow and say hey you got you know know eight hours to get me the the dollar amount and the backup to it I can try to do that if that's what you want to do as opposed to saying listen we've already got five or six our own projects that would certainly uh use up any kind of funds because if we get one approve that be lucky I know and you didn't get any reply back from them not yet you know promise STI with the p Bar Hickory Street excuse me I me I'd stick with the pole barn funding Hickory Street the storm water and uh uh yeah but we already talked about the fuel system and I think it uh avoid the confusion keep it simple okay anybody else I would look at the uh again the Zer brook or the Waterfront Park uh if we're looking for gazebos and uh to help put dollars to finishing up yeah this is not 100% of the cost but it's whatever you'll give uh and I'm agree I agree with the uh the pole barn and Hickory Street that uh the sore line there or to drain the streets uh storm water management uh and dealing with that issue which we've dealt with for many many years or the residents over there have had to deal with uh the flooding over in that area to be able to address those areas U again I was hoping that uh we'd have funding or be able to put a project in for the schools but you know other than coming up with some money for the roof uh to to help protect uh the building we know that's almost $2 million that they're looking for and that 350 would help in that project Carol uh I would like to finish all the handicap ramps in town uh Waterfront Park and um pole barn but knowing historically from last year kind of all the projects they picked were like mostly senior centers or Fields um they did a lot of like rebuilding of concession stands in Beverly so I don't know how much like actual infrastructure projects they're looking to fund but since they said this one was only 350,000 they're not going to do like they gave five million to willing Barrow last year right for a senior center but I would think that um the Hickory Street should be number one because that's a real Community issue with the flooding um the pole barn we still have to do all these other projects before that we've been sitting on that for so long I would put that number three and um I would love to get the funding for the Waterfront Park since we're going to get the seaw wall so there are the three that I would pick in that order and so the Hickory Street pull bar and then Waterfront Park no the Hickory Street um Waterfront Park and then the pole Park we have to do certain things before we can put that pole bar up we haven't done them yet right hopefully we'll get them done this year but this is money that wouldn't be available to use for a year right if I'd like to I'd probably say handicap ramps because we've been trying to get them done for years and from what we've heard at a CBD CBD you yeah we don't know if the funding is going to be available for them yes or minuscule I'd love to see the Waterfront Park done as well of course course um but I agree the pole the pole barn you know we've talked about that for years but we have to get all the other items done but I I would say handycraft ramps and the waterfront park in that order Harry how many uh do we not have how many non-conforming ramps do we have right now it's over 100 right yes there's it's I guesstimated about 125 I believe and there's 30 something that are still left to have a ramp at all that either yes that don't have a ramp um or the ramp is extremely out of cod so you're talking 150 probably like 3,000 a piece for that number if you did them in one contract yes if you did them in smaller contracts would be like five I think something doing something barrier free that that's important for our residents and that would be a good bid yeah I think that's a good project to to but until we can get yeah these handicap ramps just seem to generate more problems as we do them I mean the new ramps that went in on Union uh they're puddles now and cold weather that's an ice skating rink and in good weather it's a trap for all kinds of debris and no one's going to walk in it anyhow and it just seems it's a good idea it's it's worthy it feels good but at implementation it just doesn't come out right and it's it sucks a lot of money out of our you know other things that we we do and you walk around look at them and they're Troublesome um you know it's there's usually a pile of decaying crap in that low spot right in front of the uh uh the target area the red area of of the ramp and uh you end up walking up over the grass or you know walking down the street and then hopping onto the regular sidewalk and so I uh I I wouldn't even put the handicap ramp on the on the list I I I think our wheelchair residents would argue with you because we have ramps that have you know two and three inch lips that they can't get their wheelchairs up above I'm just saying what what's what's reality that's all I'm just highlighting what reality is the real I understand the reality so maybe um and part of that is due to the grading of the road yeah and when they put the handicap ramp in because there was one at one Orchard that was really a a problem but when we redid Orchard it helped correct that problem I noticed a lot of the a lot of the ramps have there's dirt the dirt just kind of accumulates the one at the end of ranus Avenue is just there's just all dirt there you can hardly see the orange well maybe as we do future road projects that the handicraft ramps be included at that time and so all of the grades can be aligned at that time rather than peace meal hopping around and doing ramps where you're trying to now meet a grade that you can't meet do the contractors uh are they qualified to do the ramps Harry when they do the roads as well yes is it a different type of no any any concrete crew except for the one we just had yeah should be able to to we won't mention this name um yeah and and as as Mike mentioned whenever we do a road project or any improvements that are adjacent to a ramp by law we have to put the ramp in right so when we do our roads we do do we have to put in the ramps even if it's an overlay um now when public service and what company do they overlays they're not they don't have to do it but when we do any work around those ramps we have to replace ramps bring them up to code standards so some of them will come into play as we continue our yeah whenever we do our road job that's when they they get done so just to summarize Mike you don't think handicap ramps are worth doing at all in the future unless we're doing a road project correct okay um I I disagree with that but I still think that the um then I would do I think the Hickory Street drainage is definitely a an important project because of the flooding it just doesn't it floods the residents there and it also floods the fields besides the fact that those fields need to be built up but and I also feel that um it would be nice once we the seawall in but I agree with the handicap rants I mean I would change the pole barn because it's been because I would like to see that everything else is done at that Public Works facility before we yeah because we have only like just two years to spend that money at that point and we're not ready for it we have the pole bar in our capital account don't we have that in there yeah we also have these other things we have we have money for stre stre stre but I mean we we allocated money for down payment money once we get the final estimates and so on then we finalize that stuff I said these are things that are in our Capital program if you get the grant then you're able to do it sooner perhaps right and certainly have less cost for the future borrow less uh so that if that isn't part of your Capital program it's probably not a good thing to apply for anyhow which means you're speculating you shouldn't probably ask for for a grant for something that you haven't really we haven't thought about thought it through so we have we don't have these aren't perfect numbers remember they're just giving us 300 350 or 250 it's just towards it it's not everything yeah so it's a question of where if you if somebody a year from now would hand you 250 300,000 where would you want to have it go first so what's our list the same thing you've all talked about the Hickory Street drainage Z Park the pole bar and the uh and the handicap ramps uh those are the internally things and you know do we not talk at all about the school stuff I just want to make sure but you want to put you know the hand Hickory the Waterfront Park and the ramps or the bevard yes I do the four all four of them or what I would say put it all on the list put all four put it all put everything on the list put them on the list we gave them like five or six so well should I just do the four though the four is fine pickory Street drainage cdb the the handicap ramps P barn and the Waterfront party how if we do those 300,000 each yeah and that's get it out there and be done does that make sense and in the event that the school gives you something that that I'll pass it on next just say put it on there in you know that we're submitting this in no particular order let the senator no numbers and uh it's on the record that we're talking about this again so that we don't come back and have somebody call us a liar for not discussing it yeah cuz we never talked about it before we did talk about it but anyway uh yeah and if hopefully I don't know uh the school could give us something I did explain that to arleene I would the school Des school can cut their own budget and develop their own proposals for referend ask them to put something together I know and but I think this was a offer or solicitation from senator Singleton's office to the municipality and keep it simple I think it's nice that um the township committee works with the school on some of their issues and I think it shows that we can again be a cohesive group between the two as we were at one time and I think they need to know that we're working with them not against them and that's why you know we reached out to the school regarding this particular item so did you have some thoughts about the school too F I know you wrote back I do uh in even if the senator were not to pick the school project or any of the school you know putting money towards the school that it's sending a message that we uh we find and we know that our schools are important exactly and uh you know we need that those funds for uh the roof and for other improvements that uh the school buildings need that U yeah I have and just sending that message not that he would pick it right but that it would be there again he's dealing with the the state budgets and we've asked for help you know we've had the cuts or the schools have had uh major Cuts in their budgets and you know we've communicated with him but again this is just another subliminal I guess message that we here in Delano uh value our school value our schools yeah and so I I would include that Richard if we can put something well that L like car that that was on the in the memo that list was there on the memo that I sent you which is basically this here I just didn't get a print out of it that's oh it's the same thing same thing nothing different oh so you okay yeah so she saw the list we just yeah so are we saying that that if I get those numbers num I should send it the memo the way I wrote it and include them or not yeah I would I would include it because I think it's important that that they that the senator knows that we're also supporting our schools they need help it's not just the township that needs help the township committee it's the school I'm sorry I I just think that it's important that we work together and if there's some way that we can help them it's another Avenue they may not consider it because it's the school and maybe they're going to work something else out with the school I don't know um I know they were having a meeting with the senator uh on Friday I don't know how that worked out um but um I don't think it hurts I'm telling you it can only help our is the language that I put in that memo what you're looking for about the school stuff there's great concern I I that's why I sent you the memo to see whether that says what you're thinking I I don't know if they thinking even if they don't choose it it's at least sending a message I think yeah I think it's fine Richard I think you did a nice job right so if I get it but I got to send this in tomorrow afternoon so uh if I'll check with her again tomorrow and she's got some numbers to put here there's also got to be a paragraph describing it I mean I know it's not something that you can do overnight uh so I can do the paragraphs describing our four item by the way I don't think the Board of Ed knows anything about I explained it I did explain it to arleene and I tried to explain it at the board of ed meeting and Eric said you know we know about it or something or we're meeting and I tried to explain to him that it wasn't the same thing that it wasn't what he was talking about but uh I don't know that he it registered but Arlene knew okay so we just need yes and I have the list here Mike if you want to you want this copy of the list give him a copy of the list this is probably faster here you go I'll wait three days for a reply and then yeah that's I spoke to her last week I got yeah so you can yeah that that's the list she sent but we need she said she was sending it on to uh someone else in your organization to get those that information faster you get that mic the better all right thank you thank you sir all right all right I'll try to finish this up and I'll get out my final version so he don't shoot the messenger all right okay that's all I got thank you thank you sorry for missing you all right that was important go to the consent agenda uh consent agenda items are considered to be routine and will be enacted with a single motion any item requiring discussion will be be removed from the consent agenda all consent agenda items will be reflected in full in the minutes is there anything anyone would like to remove from the consent agenda or has any questions on first no no okay good Mike no all right I have one comment on resolution 62 the appointment of the police officer please note that that is contingent upon um that since that's an intergovernmental transfer um it's contingent upon Civil Service approval and we have not heard back from Civil Service yet okay very good we got resolution 69 y I have that good all right this must be a April Fool's joke the the length of this first one that I'm going to be reading here but uh hold on we will go through it ordinance 2024-the 21 as amended on August 1st 2022 entitled quote a bond ordinance of the township of Delano in the county of Burlington authorizing the construction of improvements and related work to install a new seaw wall and Emergency Services access along the Delaware River between Union Avenue and Willow Street appropriating the sum of $820,000 therefore and authorizing the issuance of $779,000 in bonds or notes of the township for financing such appropriation and making such determinations and Covenants and authorizing certain related actions in connection with the forging end quote First reading by title only and set public hearing date for April 15 2024 at 7 p.m. ordinance 2024-the the execution and filing of a deed of confirmation related to a prior Municipal tax lean foreclosure uh 15 trout Trail first reading by title only set public hearing for April 15 2024 at 7 p.m. resolution 2024-25 D I'm sorry 2024 d63 authorizing issuance of a bingo license resolution 2024 65 authorizing the issuance of a raffle license resolution 20246 authorizing the issuance of a raffle licence 2024 66 refund of construction permit overpayment resolution 2024 67 disposal of out of service office equipment resolution 202468 resolution authorizing Professional Services for storm water infrastructure map and surveying services and resolution 2024 69 Mr lur please correct me if I am reading this title incorrectly but resolution authorizing uh the appointment of tax assessor Sean Gaskill to fill an unexpired 4-year term effective May 1st 2024 through June 30th 2027 perfect oh thank God and approval of uh let's see payment of bills current fund 1,323 $3,995 49 payroll $ 13,572 56 Capital fund $440 escro trust fund $7,150 75 cents approval of business licenses 2024 17 18 19 21 through an inclusive of 27 and approval of the consent agenda can we have a motion please I move second uh that was Miss Seuss and Miss Patrick uh roll call please Mrs Patrick yes Mr yes M Su yes Mr Templeton yes Mr Bartlett yes correspondence please just the one that was in a copying your packet we receive uh notice from burington countyy uh will'll be having a safe streets and Roads Regional Vision zero uh planning a webinar and that is April 11th at 11:00 a.m. there is a link in that as well as um a meeting password for you to join in and that is something that the rollington county will be sponsoring that session and that's correspondence that I have all right thank you very much uh meeting is now open to the public for comments and questions session number two again as before if you have any comments or questions uh please come up approach the podium and give your name and address for the record meeting is now open to the public Ray's not here so it's a quiet night all right uh meeting is now closed to the public uh discussion items parking on ranus Avenue issues this was um brought to my attention from Bobby Crabtree and um regarding public works at equipment when they try to park on ranas Avenue to um mow the the grass or do any work at Gateway Park and I think Bobby he probably talked to you John and I think he talked to the lieutenant and I think they've worked out a solution rather than having no parking every day like two days a week no parking no he yes has for every day pardon he asked for every day oh we did ask for everything he yes I thought you came up with a solution you told me yeah that he called me oh to respond out and he requested Monday through Friday 7 and3 because he said their issue would be um they have several days that they cut and if by chance is in Clement weather then they can't gets pushed back into the onc coming week and they felt it'd be beneficial if it was no parking from 7 to 3 7 to3 Monday to Friday and the residen could park on rank on bton Avenue in front of Gateway nebe um so I said we can speak to superintendent about it and see what he thinks and what do you think John because I it's a good idea it just the parking out there is just unreal anymore well there are residents that are parking there and leaving their cars there for more than a day as long as we had a time where we could just pull in and now you know if it rains and that's why Bobby didn't want to dictate one right Friday or Thursday you know so just just the one side on ran Focus you know we could just make it long enough for you know the trailer in the truck that's all well it yeah it's it's it's from the corner back to the end of our property that's I mean he when I spoke with them on Thursday he asked could it be um probably about maybe 10 or 15 feet in from Burlington okay on Focus which makes sense and then uh probably about 25 ft or so back right which will be plenty of space for them to to par and unload the lawnmower and then cut so 35t back from the corner total rough Le yeah I don't think that's a deal and we would have to do a nance to do that um it be similar to how how L is it's only during the day time yeah so um say no parking between these two signs right Monday through Friday 7 to 3 which we still believe there's still parking available for those residents right there on burlon Avenue um we're even possibly behind um we're behind behind that what about in the winter time when we're not mowing do we have like a time frame like that's why I said march to Yeah March to September or something or I I wouldn't do it because they still may I wouldn't change I mean it would be that might get confusing it's confusing yeah for the signage and just do it because the residents have other areas to park it seem Bobby's pretty sure they live right across the street and they do have parking in that but I I but he was wrong it was only one it was only it was only one one person okay and even with that regard you know the way they Park even I can't even fit in there so I either go in I even go in Ros or I park on Burlington Avenue but it's very far the tiniest car in the yeah exactly but it's easy I hate parking on Burlington Avenue Bobby Bobby might be busy doing other things now so it doesn't matter whether it's Bobby whether it's Kenny whoever it is that has to have that equipment there there's not enough space for them and for them to have to park on Burlington Avenue it is a danger it's a hazard you using they're parking on the street that they live on cuz the notion was oh they're just leaving their cars like I told them that how do you know they don't work at night they're sleeping all day that's why it's Park dur day legally it's gone to the point where running plates thinking that they you know expired they're not this they're legally pared so if if Mond through Friday 7 and3 works best just just do that all right you know no no that's fine and we would have to do an or just just so I'm clear so I understand so I can we can prepare a draft we're talking about 35 ft from Burlington Avenue on which side of Rancocas it's on that I guess Gateway Park I think we could we have we have a base and then we run a bu so assume it's guys we'll we'll put it together we we'll use the same format we've used before and then we'll run it by we're we're good we'll have our engineer look to the direction that's a ball we didn't measure it out yeah we'll we'll we'll we'll we do a base thing after you've measured out and so together Janice and we'll put together the format and then run by Doug and Steve make sure we've done it right yeah we've done this many times the uh Lieutenant the residents that are parking there are they from those two houses there or you talking about they're from the apartment they they're both there residents that live behind Ry real there's two houses right there on rancas and I believe it was one female that liveed across the street at 200 okay the yeah res they park behind Rosy's the residence two of them was parking on well the the vehicles have been there more than a day sometimes they're there two and three days they're but they're legally parked yeah but I thought that you couldn't leave a vehicle parked in one area s days was s yes I don't know I just I just know what Bobby what Bobby's saying yeah yeah but Bobby wrong well I didn't know I mean I'm just reporting I'm trying to get some some toally agree that is Monday through Friday 73r all right that'll work fine okay we'll put it together give it a shot see what happens very good is there anything else anyone has to have would like to discuss uh hear a lot of other discussions did we hear back from the contractor if they're going to replace the plantings that bill manevich uh marked that were dead have we heard back anything he didn't mark them all as dead he marked some of them yeah because all the aror VY at the new Gateway Park none of them are marked right and I think Vine Street too yeah Vine Street there's of that are dead there right yeah almost all them Mike did they talk about it the shade tree uh yeah and bill sent uh sent an email back and he was had contacted the point of contact there so yeah I know I was waiting to see if they followed up because that was late early last week and they want to have them done by the 15th so that's what Steve Lennon recommended but they were they're not all marked so who's responsible to mark them are we or is Bill M or is the contractor Shad Tre is Bill Bill was marking them and I'll confirm with him because they're not all marked yet all the dead trees are not marked okay all right so Mike you'll follow up on that yeah all right thank you anything else all right can I I don't think we need another executive session so how about a motion to adjourn so move second all right Ken all in favor I thank you very much hey John yes to Richard send it to me to Richard yeah you're welcome get ATT