Delano Township committee meeting of June 10th 2024 beginning at 700 p.m. at the Delano Township Municipal Building 770 coopertown Road Delano New Jersey test good are we recording Janice okay I'm not hearing anything test one two three test that again mayor test one two3 we are recording all right good evening welcome to the June 10th 2024 Township committee meeting held at 700 p.m. at Municipal Building 770 Cooper Town Road here in Delano can we get a roll call please Jens okay Miss Fitzpatrick is absent Mr olette is absent Miss Seuss here Mr Templeton I'm here Mr Bartlett here also present Mr Schwab our Township administrator Mr Fox our Township engineer Mr Raymond our Township solicitor Mrs lore municipal clerk Mrs Russell our Deputy municipal clerk Mr fenmore our superintendent of Public Works and Mr tier our police chief please rise for the flag salute I pled alance to the flag of the United States of America and to the repblic for which it stands one nation God indivisible with liy and justice for all we have the sunshine statement please Janice please be advised that proper notice of this meeting has been given in compliance with the open public meetings act in the following manner written notice has been mailed to the bromton county times and carrier post and published in the January 4th 2024 editions and written notice has been posted on the official bulton Board of the township of Delano at Le at least 48 hours prior to the meeting this meeting of the Delano Township committee may be transmitted via live stream on YouTube video The streaming of the meeting is not intended to be to be relied upon as formal Public Access under the open public meetings act and if the technology is disrupted for any reason the township meeting will proceed in person as an official meeting in accord with the official notice all right thank you very much we will start the evening off with ordinance 2024-the an ordinance of the township of Delano providing for and determining the rate of compensation of officers and employees second reading by title only and public hearing hearing is open to the public for ordinance 202 24-13 seeing no members of the public approaching the podium hearing is closed to the public and I will ask for a motion to approve ordinance 202 24-13 hello second motion by Miss Seuss second by Mr Templeton uh roll call please miss Seuss yes Mr Templeton yes Mr Bartlet yes ordinance 2024-the of ordinances to repeal chapter 65 flood damage prevention to adopt a new chapter 65 to adopt flood Hazard maps to designate a flood plane administrator and providing for severability and an effective date second reading by title only and public hearing hearing again is now open to the public for ordinance [Music] the public hearing for ordinance 20244 and I'll ask for a motion please some move or a motion yeah so you got a mic it's been a while he doesn't usually do the first one no I don't is there a taker for a second count second all right can we have a roll call please miss Seuss yes Mr Templeton yes Mr Bartlett yes all right meeting is now open to the public for anything other than those first two ordinances this is comments and questions session number one if you have a comment or question please approach the podium give your name and address for the record and make your comment and or question it we don't do it like the school board does it's anything and everything yep you can approach the prodium Geer no problem just give your name and address for the record 605 pickory Street um just wait one second here I'm concerned about the Walnut Street School field i b brought this up before at the board of ed meeting um now that that land is not tied to a school anymore I'm concerned that um the government the state could look at that as being used for um affordable housing so I was looking through trying to look through some of these regulations and what land could be excluded from being considered for affordable housing and I found something that said sites designated for active Recreation or recreational purposes in the municipal master plan those that kind of site um might be taken off uh land to be considered developable for affordable housing so I'm wondering is that um is that site on the municipal master plan as uh Recreation do anyone the answer to that the Walnut Street School field is it on for I would assume it's on a tax it's on it's Zone I was uh I would just saw on Facebook that it was zoned as Recreation but it's is it on the municip master plan as Recreation well that lot there the lot the half of the lot closest to you with the track on it I'm that one has a deed restriction on it where it could only be used for recre I forget the exact word but Recreation and uh athletic purposes for the residents of the Township from when the township conveyed that to the Board of Education 50 60 70 years ago okay but is it on the municipal master plan list so that I think it's important as maybe a safeguard to keep it used for recreation because I'm not a lawyer but looking at um some of these new regulations or not actually what I'm looking at is is from 2014 it's not new it said that those that land um deemed for active Recreation or recreational purposes should be on the municipal master plan but then it says also municipalities May Reserve 3% of their total developed and developable acreage for active Municipal Recreation and exclude this a acreage from consideration as potential sites for low and moderate income housing so Delano already has Pennington Park and um West AB so maybe we already have 3% already for active or for recation is that right true we're well above that we're well above that so that wouldn't be um but that property is per uh tax coding is still the bo bed property and so that's outside any Municipal Recreation listing it's not on the recreation open space inventory through D's Green Acres Program because it's Bard to that property so it's so the Board of Ed would they be able theoretically to put it on the um recreational open space inventory list that's a municipality function it so would um could it legally be transferred over to the municipality to be put on that list as an extra protection so it would not be deemed developable being developable for affordable housing as Mr Barty mentioned there appears to be some significant restriction on it at present for a good part of that that lot uh but as I said it's presently bard of bed property and it's expected to remain Board of that property period and legally it could not be transferred over to the town that's the bo of that question they would no I'm just saying if even if they were amenable that sort of transfer could happen I will just jump in I I'm not familiar with she's asking for a legal so I just felt U I'm not familiar with with the piece of property that you're talking about U but certainly I'll I'll mention it to Mr H who's the solicit on the normal basis and and have him look into you know whether there's anything that we can do from the township perspective to u to address the concerns that you've raised okay thank you those are my questions thank you m garma anyone else has any questions or comments there will be another session later on in the meeting in case you think of something all right we will close this portion of the meeting and go to comments and reports start with our professionals I'll start with my left Mr Rond um the only thing that I have uh and this I guess goes a little bit to the last comment as well uh Mr heinold did want me to uh give an update as for the benefit of the public um the state has issued new rules with regarding to affordable housing um thankfully because of the the diligent work the township has done in the past uh with their planning and compliance uh the initial review from the the expert uh seems to indicate that Delan is in a very good position uh to achieve compliance with the new rules without the need for any further substantial development uh the Township's final number is an estimate at this point so nothing is set in stone uh but but um again it seems like because of the the planning that the that the township has done through through the years um we're in a in in a in a good spot and hopefully we will not have any any need for further affordable housing at least for this round of of of affordable housing that's all I have for my report yes all right all right go to anybody have any questions for Mr random no all right Mr Fox the floor is yours um my stat um the new sea wall as you know we with that contract through construction um have met within several times since the awards he seems very eager to get started on the project and um he's very we go um we are having a PR construction meeting tomorrow at 10 a.m. at Town Hall um if anyone would like to join that wasn't invited feel free um that's mostly to do half keeping things like that just will the project uh in some detail he is he would like to start actually and I know that um people are probably seen the stakes out there in the live they are survey Stakes um as um posted I on Facebook and on the website I believe um so service St and we ask any the public I know no one here will do it but um nothing start space to do out there um they're important for the the layout of the project they will be contractor will be putting up a fence a safety fence around the entire property about 3 off the sidewalk once you start materials and equipment so that will be no access um but until then could still the stat the park will be closed Park will be closed um the field of dream access road I I did order the speed bumps and they're scheduled in on Thursday uh to John um they I had them make sure that they have a a lift truck so you don't have to break the back um I shouldn't be that heavy should they well there there's two of 2 of them and they're than yeah it's all P so so that should be coming in I gave you a name to and should know Thursday they removable yes they are removable they're yep y the bolt down um light bolts and they're black rubber with yellow safety stripes and they also have what we call cat eyes in them so it like time reflect all of them um and yes it's just matter of in the winter time unscrewing I guess it's prob about 15 volts each and lift them up and take one um also with that we straighten this speci sched for this week I don't have exact tapate yet as soon as I do I notify everyone by email been kind of tough situation our parking here but as soon as we uh we know defin schle again I will let everyone know they are going to restrike R and um Nu any of effective strikes that are out there stri crosswalks um stock bars um so that that's being done good repain everything um and we we actually making put in some of plastic for the one way On's Edge uh because that driven on more the yellow lines side yell line from side can be pain but rather than have it wear off in year or two we put for the turn good they're already gone theone they just did it 4 months ago yeah the the uh yeah one of the supervisors came out with that and couldn't believe it um it's like water colors it it was I've never seen that before but they're going to have to um the storm pip onra Avenue on 719 across the 719 yep um as you know there's that fight cloged and damag I'm getting quotes from at least two contractors to get quote to place the entire from [Music] Inlet another spot the PIP broken or damage so we have options we want to replace the whole thing we don't all the place for it if you want to just do the repair is the section between the two curbs okay yes okay so it's just the part underneath the the land yep okay well that's good um and I asked them to to include s instead of seed to for restoration so we do have one place already and I'm waiting for the second place um we should be a any moment now did you say the duck bills are included in that price or we're going to do that separately afterwards no we're going to do duck bill separately afterwards okay yeah um and I was suggest duck we can johy around and look around and see where we want to put duct graic can and then maybe do them all at once can do um Creek Road uh the lighing the field lighing um we are receiving bids on the 20th um one you're you have a resolution what we kind of worked out was to we could purchase the lights and all the musular equipment through the co-op program uh we not the B for that anything we can just do purch order and get the lights ordered I I I sent an email out today a chance to read it or that but um essentially what the benefits are students if this gets approved we can order lights tomorrow so that starts the lead time for the manufacturing steelc they do have concrete bases more available which takes time as the ACT leg fixtures and pul so in specifications we have that the contractor has to install only that kind of wiring and concrete bases um by ju I believe up to supply 30 something like that so all that work would have to be done uh and as soon as the light Poes come in he has 14 days to solve his light hes um and that's just really a couple days worth of work CR yeah they're all just pre basically preem Erector Sets so the majority of will work digging for the conduit and everything will be done in July when the fields are closed yes and hopefully if the lights come in quicker you know mus as much can they make quick may have the whole thing done by the end of July that's the the B we're trying to do that they going to have a good irrigation map to work yes and yeah please yeah and we're going to we're going to lay out the location of the the poles um because there is between Fields one and two there's a change so make we that please and and we do have the plan of the irrigation system a lot of mar out there'll be a lot of mar out yeah um but these guys just that's all they did so we've already had I'm going to say five or six contractors pick up ums so so that's a good thing so so that's where're questions um and the last thing is cdb Grant 2024 um we we did as you know receive 75,000 for that we F from that to do 37 or something like that but that's all money that we receed so with that money we can do about 15 minutes um under under today's prices we'll meet with um and Richard John and decide which r and we'll bring that to committee do that next M I'll and that's all uh circling back to flooding and duck bills have you have a response from Mr Brickley about the Riverside flooding he is still insisting that it's not need it and it won't work but he hasn't given a reason why now he relies on a report that was done 20 years ago or so um and I don't agree with that but it's it's it's his Ro um all right we'll go another route on that then yeah cuz it it will definitely work no you put a plug in it the water stops going up it's it's like Elementary School sign is saying all his Reports say that it's not coming up from the P it's coming down the back of the property I don't understand why he just doesn't look at it he lives in Riverside we could see with our own eyes it's coming up through the pipes he lives in Riverside yeah okay we'll uh we'll address that another way yeah any you want to have any questions I do I have a couple questions all right Harry Ash Street I haven't talked about this in a couple months can we get a status on that uh yeah we still not have heard we have not heard from the state they provis for they actually told us verbally months ago several months ago yeah um that they did riew it and way the report they're down to one person in that office that's handling the whole state yeah and that's last I will email just to remind um fing the handicap ramp redo that the subar work that was done where we stand with that yeah that's um we removed the tree DED it for us um the tree on wal and um that had to do need before they can do real conrete work to fix that R so that's fun now and um going to contract after as soon as possible he should be out there within I would say it'll all be done in the next two weeks and that's including the um the black top at the edge of it yeah black top there's bad slopes of some of them there's bad finishes on some them um it's wasn't a great and uh we have it he has the buch of but we waiting for the tree so we can do all the street end seaw walls the dirt that's eroding away when it meets the grass do you have any suggestions for that yeah I'm going to contact the contractor uh that that did that this technically you still the spot he still going main F and we have P out there but I I will get him out there to bville um that there's to yeah that's everyone if he doesn't we can do it and not charge but the UL got ask so yes we have contact him if he he fixes it great if he doesn't we can do it back charge back Char the contractor plant the trees to the new trees that are down there he he only did bushes there some bushes that there's any trees that one yeah the one at Oakford is dead yeah thanks I think that's it oh last thing Harry um the zerber park did the uh Hunter research get out there and do that photo documentation survey that the shipo wanted no I they promised that they do it in two weeks and that was we can have so I'm going to call them again tomorrow and at least get that make sure that they get yeah because we got to start that work Qui now so the B yeah preons tomorrow yeah technically we start July 1st um actually driving the pilings and all that the preconstruction but he can come out before that and do some clearing and get set up materials in there and get ready to go so first and ideally we don't want him to do that until after hun takes the photos yeah I'm going to be on tomorrow okay all right John are you going to be at tomorrow's meeting no I'll try to okay I'll figure out when he's going to start and just email you about the benches and stuff when we got to get them out I just want to leave them there until the latest so people can enjoy them and yeah all right and and this this contractor is being really great to work with I'm [Music] sure yeah we'll talk about it tomorrow thanks all right thank you right uh Township administrator Mr Schwab uh thank you figure out which one to use um as I wrote you before we one thing I is on the software for the assessor's office uh our new assessor has proposed changing the software to a upgraded version that he is more accustomed to using and uh I sent you information about it uh for the 20204 term there's a $750 extra cost for that portion but the overall cessors uh budget is $3,000 the expenditures will be $3,000 underw budgeted so and then the cost for the software on an annual base afterwards is less but it's only because we're doing the B final 6 months and then we'll do a new uh contract in January so if anyone has any questions I'd like uh to you know have somebody do a just a a motion to authorize the uh purchase of the new cessor software as I propose I'll make that motion to purchase that software all right motion By Carolyn second by Mike all in favor I I okay the other thing is is a public reminder you have in your uh Cent agenda the uh Capital ordinance for the road work and the bond ordinance for uh most of the projects that we had planned so we can get moving on those things and I didn't hear any questions so I assume everyone's okay on that there'll be a public hearing at the next meeting right is that everything Richard that's all I have all right anyone have any questions for Richard all right go to the department heads Chief uh good evening thank you I'll start with giving the ma final statistics for the month uh during the month of May the officers handled 13 calls for service they conducted 89 met vehicle stops issued 32 met vehicle summonses initiated 19 police cases and there were six adult arrests uh don't have much of a list but a few things just to uh touch upon um over the past couple weeks the officers attended the direct Department's um movie night where top gum was shown um we also started our wellness program with Dr Kelly so far uh four of our officers have attended and getting good positive feedback so I'm happy to report that as uh everybody knows that was a uh program that I I really pushed for and I'm I'm happy that everyone approved it um the officers attended the Pearson 5K race and also on the 7th we had two of our officers uh participate in the uh uh the torch run the law enforcement torch run for Special Olympics uh detective lipic and officer CA represented us and it was uh nice to see them uh participate again this is the second year if they've done it um this Saturday we have our uh we're going to try it again the coffee with the cop it got rained out last time so uh you know hopefully everybody can come out and uh meet some of the officers it'll be pied out from 9:00 a.m. to 11:00 a.m. uh we're really looking forward to that um and the uh last thing as a report we had our uh uh we had a supervisor meeting on the 5th uh which was uh which was a nice uh meeting uh during those meetings we discuss to topics uh you know good bad and different that are going on in the department to try to work together together to form a plan to make make sure uh you know we're operating at the uh the best we can uh so that was a uh a nice meeting and we'll probably have a departmental meeting coming up in the next uh month or two once we get settled down with some of the other events and that's all I have to report tonight is there your recruit graduating this month uh he'll be he's scheduled to uh graduate on the 20th great so awesome looks like he's uh he's he's going to make it but uh okay we'll we'll see that I'll report back uh after graduation okay very good looks like you're gonna have sunny weather this Saturday for once again I'll knock on wood and let's hope it hope it stays that way that'd be nice tropical storm something any want to have any questions for the chief no all right uh Mr fenmore yes good evening um we picked up 60 cubic RS of brush uh we cut all Cal properties four times uh we cut two residential properties for the zoning officer um turn the leaves we removed one tree at West Avenue Trail put out a half a ton of um patch for potholes we line the drag the fields 13 times we deliver 20 yards of compost we put up all the flags and now I guess that's my next question you want want under state of Flag Day for Fourth of July why yeah okay just cuz a couple of them are getting a little Tangled so they get caught on the telephone pole if you see one that's ripped take it down if otherwise keep the rest up we finally swept the whole town we finally replaced the door that has taken almost two years at the Public Works garage door that uh it's been and the doors that they make now are way better than the doors that they had because the doors that we had were bad doors they let water get on the inside and they rust from the inside out and when you mix salt with that they really go um we had this sweeper letter I don't know if anybody saw it around yeah finally got that that looks good um the ditch at West Avenue the to the river uh I got the county in and they cleaned the ditch out they removed several trees in the ditch like behind the um Nicholls there's in Beverly side that were stopping water restricting water so we finally got that all cleaned out and they took away 2 30 yard dumpsters of the brid all locks and I went there today and there's a real big log back in it already so that's on going um I got to trim uh the two trees out of the Field of Dreams for Wi-Fi so they look a little big hole in the middle of the two trees that was there for a reason the Wi-Fi is getting to the telephone yeah they need to get that done and we finally got our paint lining machine and we had the guy train five of us on third Friday no Thursday Thursday and uh um it there's a lot to do with it but the most important thing is to clean it when you get done that's the most important thing so till we get the feel of it we'll we'll start practicing and we'll go to town John the uh the the sprayer it can do Street line curve lines Fields what are what are all the aspects of it we can we can paint the we can paint the curves we can uh paint the stop bars and we can line the ball field you know I mean you know the Outfield line yeah and then we can do the soccer field good great so all the curbs will be done by next weekend right very good yeah just it it's it's going to take a little get used you know running the machine out there you know but uh everybody was nervous when we were running the other day and we only had water in it but there's a lot of there's a lot of stuff you got to learn uh you know the three steps you got to do most important and once you get the feel of it it'll be like nothing yeah good hopefully hopefully don't jinx yourself John that's all I have all right anyone have any questions for John no actually I got a late question for the chief um the stuff that's been in the news of of community events and kind of out of control crowds most a lot of young people don't want to blame young people holy but um I would think that's that's a topic of discussion amongst yeah it's it's colleagues and yeah obviously with everything that's going on multiple events having multiple issues you know I think the key with the you know we're all trying to formulate plans now of you know being overprepared rather than underprepared but uh sometimes you know when take take the shore for example I mean it's hard to combat when you have thousands of people show up at at a location and uh you know you got to use a whole County to call in uh law enforcement to try to you know so uh you know with our our Our Town luckily I mean our events um you know we can kind of prepare more I think uh for bigger events like our cookout with a cop which we're going to start talking about doing our second uh cookout with a cop later in the the summer early fall um so it's just a matter of making sure we got the Manpower and um you know we we do our homework and try to do everything we can to prevent that um you know an incident like that happening so just a quick SL not to picky back off of that I attended the Edgewater Park Centennial event on Saturday and uh there was a huge police presence there all the Edgewater TR Edgewater Park Police Department was out there along with the sheriff and uh it was great to see everybody out there but there was no no incidents whatsoever it was a nice event and uh hopefully the incidents with the problems are not the norm going forward well they stayed down the shore at least I know thank you M lore yes the one thing that I have in your packet is a copy of the proposed uh detailed affordable housing trust fund monitoring Port under the uh new round four uh affordable housing requirements we have to submit a detailed uh uh trust fund report and it's due this Friday to the DCA um it our affordable housing planner has prepared that in um we had to break down the categories between residential commercial industrial and undifferentiated so that uh was in your packet for review and so I'm just looking to um for a motion to accept that so that it can be submitted by this Friday to the DCA as required under the round four regulations I'll make the motion second all in favor I thank you and that's all I have for now thank you all right I would just like to make a comment that this uh this information takes an extraordinary amount of work by our Township staff and consultant but me and Mrs lure uh to keep that straight and uh it has significant adverse repercussions if it's not right so uh thank you Mrs L for keeping us out of the Penalty Box you're welcome all right thank you Jan you're welcome all right uh consent agenda items consent agenda items are considered to be routine and will be enacted with a single motion any item requiring discussion will be removed from the consent agenda all consent agenda items will be reflected in full in the minutes does anyone have any items I need further discussion or want removed from consent no good all right I'm going to need to drink before I start reading these Beverly gave us some long titles on here this time ordinance 20 24-15 ordinance authorizing the installation of various Capital Improvements in and for the township of Delano County of Burlington New Jersey appropriating the sum of $225,000 therefore from the capital Improvement fund and $239,300 -16 a bond ordinance of the township of Delano in the county of Burlington authorizing the purchase and installation of Technology improvements in the municipal building the installation SL replacement of storm drainage pipes on Hickory Street and along Delaware Avenue improvements to recreational Recreation facilities at various parks and the purchase of equipment for the police department appropriating the total sum of $588,500 therefore and authorizing the issuance of $550 8,790 bonds or notes of the township for financing such Appropriations and making certain determinations and Covenants and authorizing certain related actions in connection with the foregoing first reading by title only and set public hearing date for June 24th 2024 ordinance 20247 an ordinance authorizing the grant of real property license with respect to 309 Burlington Avenue at block 1401 1 M 6 first reading by title only and set public hearing date for June 24th 2024 resolution 2024867121 189 authorizing the purchase of sports field lighting equipment from musco sport Sports lighting LLC under a sourcewell Cooperative purchasing contract in accordance with njsa 4A col 11-1 at seek resolution 20249 providing for the insertion of any special item of Revenue in the budget of any County or municipality pursuant to njs 4A colon 487 chapter9 Public Law 1985 resolution 20249 1 authorizing contract for HVAC maintenance services resolution 2024-25 resolution to refund tax overpayment due to Total veteran exemption pursuant to njsa 54 col 4- 330a resolution 2024 d94 authorizing submission of Grant application and execution of Grant contract for fiscal year 2025 NJ Department of Transportation Municipal aid grant program payment of bills current fund $851,000 escrow trust $3,897 Housing Trust $778 75 approval of minutes from 8 ail 1st 2024 can I please have a motion to approve the consent agenda so much second Mike and Carolyn a roll call please miss Seuss yes Mr Templeton yes Mr Bartlett yes correspondence please Janice yes in your pockets we received a letter from um I find it now excuse me Mr Marks um a commercial property owner in town requesting that the township committee consider uh revising the rental registration fees you have that in your pocket and um he's looking to he's suggesting to a um reversing it for the um owners of um 20 or more units would only pay uh would pay the $100 and those with under 20 units would pay the $50 so that is in your packet thank you very much and that is all the correspondence that I have thank you thank you all right uh meeting is now open to the public for comments and questions this is session number two if you have any comments or questions please approach the podium give your name and address for the record beings open to the public we were waiting for you Ray I know you one thing um name great we 22 ships way uh I just want to inform the council with C that the county has started work on the 4749 Pennington woohoo they've got a Dugout quite a bit they've got a great big back ho back in there to lift out the pipe so that's why I just want to let you know is that what all the dead brush is they cleared out the brush along the creek and everything what's that about that's that's the county they came along just to uh they put some type of weed killer on it to kill it and then they came along and cut it down all along the path that is to keep some of the animals as well as some of the um ticks because they've had been having a lot of problem with the ticks along the along the path they're cutting down on both sides okay especially on the rivers side or on the prick side yeah I noticed was all cleared out there yeah it's nice you can see it now yeah I think so but yeah that's they them along and do stuff and when we find out after when we question that's good we know that good so but then also thing too is I've been had some conversations with the chief here about a couple other issues that are going along on the path there okay and Chiefs going to take care of that had to do with the motorbikes that are on the path I came across yesterday well motorbikes but then ATVs and dirt bikes 9:00 10:00 at night no lights on 40 mph Al oh that's I happen to be out there fixing lights on our building that's way I can see where s where they're sitting or where they're going and I was up 20 ft up in the air and they came whipping on by I heard him coming yeah so but the chief said he'll take care of the bo CU they're hvs and dirt bikes they're not e bikes oh make sure tell the residents to call yeah I I'll I'll get on them about it live along there and stuff but I was up in the air I was about to make a phone call is that the first time you've heard that had heard them come through there no from what I found out they weren't that is the first time but that's the first time I've seen them most residents don't want to get involved understood and that's that's the problem I run into with stuff but I keep baring on it in fact my notes from tonight's meeting will the call yeah I mean the president don't have to sign a complaint right it's just that yeah so but at least it gives us a fighting chance to try to do something about it but they were going 35 4 M hour along no lights on them know I heard them coming and I turn to see them they came whipping on off very dangerous you can't get the cars back there right on the P it's it's it's all right thank you thank you Mr rber anyone else all right seeing none we'll close this portion to the public uh discussion items we have on the agenda proposed cannabis ordinance uh for discussion we're going to table this to the next meeting which is the 24th as we wanted the the full committee to be here and does anyone have anything else for this evening no all right and I don't believe we need another executive session so I'll ask for a motion for adjournment please so move second Carolyn and Mike all in favor hi thank you very much for coming out have a good night