the D Conservation Commission opens its public meeting agenda for Thursday May 30th 2024 this public meeting is opening at 700 pm at the Council on on Aging Prime Time building 1059 Avenue this meeting is video and audio recorded for cable broadcast and Internet Posting on www.mass.gov and you stand pleas for flag United States of America to the stands one na God indivisible liy and justice for all the first item on the agenda is and the only thing I really want to say is that uh this past uh week or there about uh uh the chestnut trees that have been growing here produced uh uh 130 varable nuts and those young saplings are now planted around the town for future generations to witness okay I'm going to are there any questions on reviewing and acting on the minutes of our previous meeting uh that was uh let see the date on that one um Thursday March 2st 2024 are there any questions or any changes to the to that minutes okay is there a motion to accept motion to accept minutes from Thursday March 21st 2024 second all in favor okay pass review discuss act it's a continued hearing it's an end application by Smith of newly D energy storage uh LLC for zero mained Lane map one watch 82 and 82-7 and 96 file number 17- 476 a continuance request uh received by uh Dean Smith to 5:30 site visit with beta and new consultan period 51 awaiting report from beta Lisa do we have any update on that yeah um beta is um finalizing their Ral pool report and Mr Smith is here to present okay or should be is Mr Smith here we may have to put it off maybe he's at the other building uh yeah yeah let uh what's going to happen I I believe is that we may be uh going uh back in some cases if people get a little bit lost in the uh the campus here that um uh if he comes in a little bit later we will hear from him point of order Mr chairman would you like a motion to table unless a motion to reconsider the appli um how about just leaving it open if we can leave this uh in red open for later um information during this meeting ra rather than you know if we continue it it's like it's going to go through another day and and I know that there could be some confusion so motion to take out of order or I'm sorry just motion to take out of order maybe uh yeah so we'll we'll head down okay U review discuss act continued hearing abbreviated notice of intent uh from Carell Bell Farms estate conation of wetland resources at zero Milk Street M 17 LS 109135 and 208 file number 17- 489 uh a site visit between applicant and Weston and Samson being conducted on 510 uh scope of peer review Services provided by Weston and Samson on phase three on 521 uh Lisa what do we uh okay so both the applicant and the perw consultant are here so car is the applicant and Megan C from West and Samson is here a consultant scientist so I didn't know if we wanted to um ask Carl if he want had anything to say before Megan presents or um no um again knowing that she was going to be here like that I just figured after she's been speaking I was going to follow up and just uh they know that myland Engineers need to update the plan and prodct to her findings and things like that they were they're in the process so um ultimately my part will be continued until um okay do you expect a presentation by your uh scientist yeah um well next time yeah next time correct okay so you want to continue the hearing then well Megan's going to present first Megan is here from from the town the town engineer whether whether it's continued or not they need to do their part then we need to present uh our our new plan with the correct the updated uh documentation on it so that's going to be push into next week any next month anyway okay and before you leave just sign a continue do you want me to try to yeah okay I I mean I think even let me see if cable responded but even if it's not recording I will try to do a screen share to see if that will allow us to screen share this out yeah okay screen [Music] extra agendas are on the desk back there is it okay if we just go back to the we haven't started screen sharing yeah no I was just trying to see if it would even load it doesn't look like it's loading for some reason so never mind [Music] sorry thank you yep we going to try to screen share or it no the Zip drive isn't loading so she folder there but she's got paper Cy for you guys and she's going to present it that way [Applause] there a place I should stand here this is my first time here y I just wasn't sure where the right place to go is uh so good evening my name is Megan C Wetland scientist with West and sson apologies that there's not a presentation but I'll walk through my findings of the veral pool assessment that I did earlier this month um so in the letter that I just passed around on page two there's a nice map um from the consultant outlining five areas that were potential verticals um and I walk through these five areas um in the remainder of the letter and then there are some uh photos for each area as an attachment so I'll just quickly walk through um the areas one by one if that is okay with you um so starting with area one that's at the northern portion of the parcel um and that was flooded during the field visit um there was a stream flowing in and out of it um so likely it's not a veral pool um there were no veral pool species found during the site visit either um so we concluded that um in agreement with the consultant that likely was not a Vernal pool um area two is located in the North Eastern corner of the parcel um and that's a forested isolated Wetland um there was standing water observed in that uh Wetland as well about 12 to 24 in um I did uh I did observe some adult wood frogs in the area and did find wood frog tadpoles during sweeps in the area so uh wood frogs are an obligate for nool species uh so we determine that that likely was a Vernal pool that's area two um there are some photos in the photo attachment showing uh these Tad tools that's photos three and four and the photo attachment for your reference uh moving on to area three which is just south of area 2 uh that's probably the largest um isolated Wetland that was delineated um there is Sandy water observed probably about 24 to 36 in it was pretty deep in some locations on this area as well there were adult wood frogs in Wood frog tadpoles observed during sweeps um with a net so um because again that's an obligate verle species uh area three is likely a Vernal pool as well and there are some tadpool photos uh photo number six um it's a good representative photo of the Tad pools found during sweeps there uh moving directly south of Area 3 there is another small isolated forested Wetland there were some very shallow pockets of water here probably about a couple inches nothing uh too deep there are no Vernal pool species or characteristics in this area so we agree that this is likely not a veral pool um and lastly area five is in the Southeast Corner that is the only um only area that's actually mapped on NAS GIS as a potential Vernal pool um the other four locations are not mapped as potential or certified vernal pools on mass GIS data um area five there's approximately 6 to 12 in of standing water um however there are no Vernal pool species um observed in this area no characteristics so we agree with the consultant that that likely is not a Vernal pool um so just to summarize uh areas one four and five are likely not to Burnal pools and area two and three are likely bural pools um and you can flip through these photos um they go from areas one to five I'm sorry said which area you please not veral pool uh areas 1 four and five are likely not vernal pools they didn't show any Vernal pool characteristics during this tight visit and areas two and three are lightly vernal pools given that they had wood frog T pools in those areas that are not grenal pools they would still be like Wetland areas yes they're still isolated W yes yes the the review of West's complete review of the Wetland areas are going to be presented at the next meeting this is just strictly theal po pool season and thank you I have also observed C pool in this area I've also Ober box turtles in the are three and four yeah so I did also um walk around a little bit to look for other wildlife habitat features because there are some good um habitats for Turtles that's you mentioned um as they like to live in wooded forest fields and ponds um so there are also some photos in this attachment photo um 9 and 10 show some good turtle habitat I did not find any Turtles um as I was out there I did notied a couple tree stands for here saw some other wildlife of that nature but uh no turtles were observed [Music] it I'll open it up for any questions I know I watch that kind fast so um when the environmental consultant for the applicant had submitted the report um you know they didn't include the data forms but they also made made reference in a number of responses to West and Samson that um there's no anticipated impact to Banks but I just want to be clear that when you know we do expect the streams whether the intermittent or C to be shown on the pl um other than that don't have could I ask another question right here I apologize right here in this area was this area examined at all there's a puddle that runs right here almost yeah this this whole access was pretty flooded when I was I think the before right here almost yeah I post my head in a couple spots um looking for Turtles but I didn't there I focused on five areas that they had but yeah is there was water there there's also water car any idea when you're going to turn in the payment for the peer additional peer review yeah I thought I thought we were going to wait and until we I submit the most current plan so they can revise their proposal oh yeah that's true okay so what's happening is there's another set of plans so we ask them to hold off yeah y so there's a first round of review um and they've updated the plans and I've addressed I believe my comments and then um I'll take a look at that and address any further comments do to the data we update again and then have a review one one time on everything so they'll be revising that proposal I can great thank you question question perect okay we going ask you for continuance till next month yes okay is there a motion to continue to our June meeting [Music] Fae 20 what 27 20th oh 20th I'm sorry EXC you can come on the 27 okay our next on the agenda is uh review discuss act Contin on a continued hearing fromed of grass grasshopper energy zook Street which includes clearing of 28 25 jurisdiction file number 17492 okay okay uh it's asked to continue to un certain date L you heard uh no yeah thank you we are just going to send an email out to the applicant on Monday and um ask what the status is and if they wish to proceed okay so uh we will just continue until June 20th uh is there a motion couple more people come in circle back to see the first agenda here I think is here but okay okay you're for New Leaf energy storage from New Leaf energy do us a favor sure we're recing guys L actually can you put on okay so it's been some time since we were here before the commission um there was a couple of veral pools that were cited on property our Consultants was too late to be able to go out and and confirm those during the last season so we were last year in the fall before you so our Consultants been back out bet walk the site with them again and this is a neighborhood exhibit mayard Lane comes in here that's where the entrance to the property will be uh CH Street down here re as uh there's a new substation under construction just over the Town Line in uh by National Grid so our project will eventually interconnect there there but these blue areas on the plan are the locations where they verified pools um we submitted an updated delineation plan and a new anrad plan um stand by the survey that documents all of this um there are a number of isolated weapons also now that was what was submitted last on the 22nd it was just submitted last week unfortunately these guys haven't had a chance yeah I'm sure you haven't had a chance to look at it yet but um we wanted to come since it had been such a long time since we were before the commission great and um have a closer view of things here so there's very small veral pool up in the the northern portion of the site so this shaded glue area would be 100 foot area around that that would be the verol resource and then the buffers that are shown outside of it same internal to this Wetland area there are Ral pool areas so we're showing both the veral pool setbacks as well as the the standard buffers around the the surrounding we so um we're just here for an Am So eventually to get a jurisdictional determination from the from the commission and if you have any questions about any of that I know that you haven't had time to see new information so uh there's a complete report with data Sho and photos from the site for review where's the proposed uh project site well it will be over in the Northwest part of the of the property eventually uh there may be some facilities here the entrance would come off of Lane and right now is this simply the battery St eventually to a field um it's no it's a standalone and it'll connect so yeah so beta is preparing um there before hopefully the final report and um they did provide us with a with an proposal an estimate um get that to you guys so you [Music] know you had 2700 yeah it was an additional 2700 I just entered the check request so we should be able to cut the check for that next week so should have it well in advance of the next meeting great okay so what we're going to be needing is a continuance uh to review the information and to act on your interad for next month so continue with to June 20th okay least you you have the paper sign and well is there a motion to did anyone out in the audience have any questions sorry did anyone here yeah the initial plans I saw for what they want to do was covering that whole area they were there almost 10 acres yeah that that'll be revised based on I going to present a revisal before next month when you come in this is just for the jurisdictional det ination it doesn't have anything to do with the use approval for the battery and also the cont the contamination is coming off that what kind of containment Fields you put in for that that will come later okay right now all we're doing is looking at the resources okay where are the wetlands where are the vernal pools are there any streams are there other pawns that's all that this is doing it has nothing to do at this time with anything else any kind of conru I understand it's just jurisdictional areas so they can hopefully locate everything as far away from those resource areas as possible and then you'll get another butter notice when they decide they're going to have something more got some scary stuff they're working with there but um I do have a question to you did from what he said at the beginning is the site actually bigger than what you presented to us for no just for D it's only in the corner of d yes the bigger side of the site no that would just be the interconnection to the to the corridor the transmission lines that are here yes it will connect through the sub the substation that's oh I the project will be on this property okay and where letters in notified when you did the sand yes they were okay thank you that's yes I didn't receive a notification of this and last time you guys had a meeting I did get notification as in a butter okay so let me we can pull out the um so this has been continued a long time just so you know okay so you might have got one all right was when did you first submit a year ago almost a year ago yeah okay so you did get you updated out notifications each time no we don't do that okay so you all right not a problem I understand sorry yeah you just I'll just watch your agenda do you want me to check to make sure you got one or no no I know I got it okay I know I got it you got it that's okay okay soe June 20th will be the meeting here and then they'll have to S out notices is there anyone else in the audience who have a question okay is there a motion to continue to June 20th so move second all in favor thank you very much okay okay a review discuss act continued hearing it's abbreviated notice of are dation the applicant Alexander rerio seeking confirmation of wetland resources at zero TIG map 2 4 file number 1745 from plan up few times yeah yeah most recently dated plan would be sorry 41 Greg yes hello hello [Music] I think see [Music] [Music] all right so since we went previously Lisa went to the site with bromes that's fine okay um and you saw you guys agreed yeah delineation um the extra delineation of the banks good to me flags were handing Mr rero wanted to per so he had staked out the area he would um access the back through um we St we even staked out um all the areas of the perks I didn't bring that here and then several yeah so the Building Commissioner I'm sorry Health agent asked for um soil evaluations for both the house and the where the house would be and the so the septics um yeah so if you want take it from there yeah um so as far as W go second review Brad in agreement back here we a whole think very deep s in between so that turn B area accepted moved up to the front area but we got um perks out there um and everything that we have shown on plan is an agreement between our consultant for the woms and the consultant for the commission and the contion agent the only thing I was wondering was the note as far as the tributory in ANW so with the commission has always done is use I know you said you found different information but they've always relied on because it is a d regulation for the 200t seat um they've always relied on the D mapping and I know you said you you used the zoning map but um so I guess at this for this I just would like a note on the plan if you could that um the mapping would be consistent with the D requirements as far as the orw and then you we can do a little more research on that but you know the resources as shown are accurate so Lin of resource areas based on D regulations Okay C that up in email s first and the local I mean you know obviously local bylaw comes in De play for that but um now because you didn't get a perk in the back I think this is kind of REM right yeah yeah we are definitely concentrating on possibility we can put the house back there is the house still going up on top of the yeah got look perform okay one of the things you have to be aware of is that the fire department requires a 20 foot access road and a turn around what do you call a hammer Hammerhead so uh if those things okay what is what is the regulations for how long the road can be before turn around you have to talk to the yeah yeah I don't know how far that is uh it's probably uh um how long a driveway would that be roughly you don't you know it's just something you have to check into think 200t how much yeah yeah they're going to become active in this you know for fire protection okay yeah and so um and the other thing you have to consider is you know the first thing we always require you to do is to avoid any Wetland impacts and then if you can't avoid them then you can minimize and then mitigate so in this case you have to prove to us that you can't put a house out front that's really how this works that's that's not direct we imp be buff right well if you assume that outside the 25 no touch what you put the in the front that's one of thetion without W impact yes your line will run through your road yeah run the line will run through the road yeah we run the the force M under the driveway around to the front so we're not going through the we're not going to okay well right now it's it's the um the so it seems like that is uh satisfied as far as having an accurate map and then you have to do the calculations as what you can and can't do uh with spacing for Fire Road and and the rest but that would come in a separate noi yeah and we appreciate Fe back so when we go to Stage well yeah you know I mean it would be crazy for us to say hey uh yeah we're all s in the fire department come and say hey you can't do it I mean in the very initial stages that did happen yeah and we don't want it to happen anymore the other thing you have to consider too is that we're revising our bylaw over time too so we're expecting in the fall we have a revised bylaw one of the things we're going to do is incorporate the DPW directors um well I'm hoping the commission would would vote on this to incorporate the DPW directors um you know as a sign off kind of person for projects especially when they involve you know um you know work on a right away so okay yeah and I don't know J to ask if anybody had any question okay anyone in the audience have any questions on the inter okay uh do we have a motion to accept the mapping as presented and as aled and that would be uh uh dated uh uh yeah no no over here uh 411 [Music] 24 okay is there a second second all in favor one here the those we'll have the you with a 21 days sign but um do you want to pick it up or do you okay okay we have a notice of inent from Junior Delma for for construction of a single family home utility SE system driveway proposed grading at 418 hot Street M 20 95 of the pro within the buff and jurisdictional Wetland resources under the local bylaw plan sent to d uh PW director Tom f for import and email received no file number since it's under the local bylaw only um the D conservation Comm requested home con to State clarifying uh filling cutting and regulated warland an buffer zone has Ur okay okay my is Brad Fitzgerald from sfg engineering 28 Main Street Lakeville just to um recap did last proposal there used to be a single family house on this property it was raised several years ago we closing and put a new house in with a septic going up here in the back is the only place we could get a c test you have a isolated vegetated Wetland down here on the corner um which has been flagged and um so youve got your 25t buffer your your 50 and your 100 um the septic is outside 100 which meets um to requirements the house is more than 50 which meets to requirements we the 25t is a Bou the yellow line here you see is Ro control along or further from that 25t buffer line um at the last meeting um least request you requested that we put some check dams in and um another line of erosion control up here B slope so that's been done added to the plan um and was talk with meeting with Mr per in the highway department to go over the plan I met with him out there his uh basically his um his email do you want to read his email or do you want just make it part of the record please um do you have it I have it all right [Music] so thank you for so this is dated um Thursday April 25th thank you for meeting me at 418 heart Street this morning I have a better understanding of the provos driveway and Grading now I do believe as we discussed the driveway location as this plan is in good location and the grading of the driveway should be shifting away to the West with a 12in cross pipe under the driveway to float to the West is the best approach at this location along with no regrading of town property and we will have a good handle on storm water concerns please don't hesitate to contact me Tom Ferry iway superintendent 734 218 5339 so was about we have the driveway here coming in right now the driveway is over here and that's what was kind of confusing for him um I explain there's a utility po here and the driveway is going west of that over off the property there's a catch Basin um in front of the next house everything grades that way he had replaced that Basin and the piping and and rerouted it through the an issue of the neighbor cross street so that pipe that catch Bas picks up all the run off and takes it down around on to Elm Street down down the hill so you wanted me to make sure this driveway is slope this way from west to east down and we have pipe on so that west east east to west uh east to west I'm sorry east east west so there all water flows Westerly to that catch Bas so I've made not of that on the plan we got the 12in r heads on either end um one one half of that pipe is just within the 100 foot buffer the other half is outside of it so the driver will come up here for the side entry um any any run off will come down and go west and head to that catch Bas what is the pink line in the left corner yeah that's that's 100t buff from um the Wetland across stre we're not proposing anything other than one of the uh check DS within that 100 bu and there is a catch Basin to the West in the right way you did not locate it but correct yeah yeah it's beyond the driveway on the other side front of the house next door I was up there in um yesterday and um Dave I don't know if you wanted to add any question yeah I do have a couple questions on on the driveway how it swings swings to to the left there's a there's a big tree there and then there's there's some ledge right beond the tree are you eliminating the tree with this driveway I don't know that um I I mean there's a considerable amount of ledge right the tree and in the in the foundation in the foundation yeah I personally I I have been out there more than once a time been out there most of thei work um I wasn't aware that there was a a very large usually we locate large trees but I guess he didn't get that one well I I I mean it looks when we were looking at that leis it looked like it was just on the edge of how this how the driveway curled yeah so I don't know if you're going to have to eliminate that but then you got the ledge to deal with too yeah it's the ledge and the slope that I'm really concerned about because if you don't eliminate the ledge the driveway is going to be like this you have the word Su written down here uh it it's either filled with water or it's ledge up High um yeah where we're keeping that above that as far as I know you going raise the whole house now we better sell 103 existing well no existing it's around 110 so um you know they have leave they plan on foring drains and um getting it down to that the pipe so it can run West okay so the storm water drains are going to be in the ground yes from the yeah um but as for that ledge I can't tell you what my my guess is they would try to probably work with it and grind it down if they can and because when it comes to the guy's building a house himself I believe and he needs to be able to get in and out so he's got to do something all of it would be at or outside of the 100t buffer the only ISS should be how he grades it he's got to make sure that he grades it to the to the west east to west that ledge appears to to be on the 100 foot buffer zone but certainly the uh the Doug portion there's there's a lot of water there and uh you know right now and when I went there I was there today and course there's a lot of grass in this area here and uh there was actually flowing water uh from north to south through that grass and you know I assume it's going it it's been that way all all the time and that that's probably what's making the Sweatland area over here to the east um I don't know how that's going to be handled I believe you know the footing training will help lot with that also the grading of the septic system will you know get it around the house and the driveway get it once we get it into the driveway then we know it's getting into that catch Basin way is going you know some of it will be going down to this this fonding area this IW um but we going to try to keep the majority going to the driveway to that catch BAS [Music] more questions any questions from the audience yes sir your name the posa I live across the street the water that's there is going into my property he said the water was going down the road it's not going down the road it's coming in my property because there's a pipe that goes underneath the road and it's a continuous stream that comes they built up the driveway so the water would be pitched over across and it's if you go righted by now the water's coming down but it said that the water was going the last meeting that that water was going over this down the street it's not going down the street it's coming to my property and I'm and the water's going to I'm still to have to stop I've been dealing with this problem for years and years and now they they're doing it right now by putting that pipe in there try to the string there a string that's right there um so it's it's more like an isolated Wetland with surface flow that's very very intermittent only when storm when there's a storm H that happens there's no bank there's no delineated stream there's no anything like that but the but the slope of it is this how this land is up here and our house is down here so if the road wasn't there the water would always go across the street right would always go downhill but what Mr Fitzgerald has redesigned I believe is to relocate the water so it goes into the other wed down to Elm Street and it's away from your property if that doesn't happen then you have a civil matter I believe right Brad is that oh yeah well we're going to don't we're going to be moving that driveway driveway going whole driveway going built up the driveway that's going to move to move to the other side of the utility you going to move it to the east or west side to the west to the west side yeah so you're going to push it over the other room yes Mr repos so it can go into my other property no so it'll go into the catch Bas it's next door in front of the house next door there's a catch Basin that the town put in to protect your prop property and we're going to be putting the water into that catch Basin but it's not protecting my property at 430 403 hot street right we we don't we don't intend to putting water that way it's going there where's it going to go it's not going to what about the pipe that's underneath the road that's feeding the water from your that's I don't know that's not on our property I know because the water's coming from that but it's not on our property um another thing that might mitigate some of it is um the neighbor to the east of this property he were they all notified was all the abud is notified everyone was notified but when I was out there um I spoke with him about he had been cutting really close to the Wetland and inside the Wetland in some occasions he's going to leave a lot of that natural so when trees start to come in naturally maybe that'll help absorb some of the water um but the plan is to leave as much green space on this and you've added some you've added some seed mix to restore the Disturbed areas correct and the the finished grading will all be L and CED which should hopefully collect rain you know run off all so and seep seep it into the ground is quite a as you can see there's quite a bit of do you think that uh some of your pitching of land and that pipe would reduce the amount of water that uh uh is that flows is a pipe under the street is a pipe under the street just taking all that water from that from that side there well this has been going on for years now you said yeah that there cuz there's a string that was on the if he can do something with that water that's I mean I want the water elated for my property period if it don't then I'll have to go we can't stop mother yeah we can't stop mother nature and we're not creating any more rain and neither is Mr what you going to do about the pipe that's running that water from into my property nothing that's nothing to do with us what do you mean it's got nothing to do with you it's nothing to do with us we that has been there we are concerned with the flow from his property and he has a plan to take care of that now uh what has happened in the past you can't expect him to correct all the problems that uh uh that have been going on for years but he's creating a problem by building up the driveway but the driveway is going to be on the west side and it's going to the water is going to be piped out so the I was in today and it doesn't seem as though the elevation is higher to to to do any disruption no because you go there when when the grass is growing you sure why didn't you go before and watch natur I've been there four or five times now and Mr Phillips has been there at least three or four times I've been there I think three times yeah okay I would like to move on we have a ly agenda here and and uh um is there anyone else from the audience that has concern yes Mr H it all 760 main stream I've heard term stor water as I look at this uh posting makes reference to building Peres board of health issues in regards to has this been at all talked about the coordinate efforts of this we uh when it involves Wetlands of a single family home we are in charge oh has it been discussed with the has been communication with the building inspector and of health and the health director just so they're in on the bo so Communications better so this process can be more scen that's my concern uh yes how it's been submitted to the Board of Health did they approve the septic yet I don't know that I believe they have but I I they don't notify us okay no I'm sorry they do now I can't recall they they usually send us an email or phone call says good question but I think he's waiting to get conservation approval before he issues his final appr on the and then he'll also get plans when they apply for the building yeah well they did they did apply didn't they they applied for a building permit okay and um I went out there and I yes and I told this was this was months ago now but and I did tell the Building Commissioner that they had already dug the foundation whole and um it did perk and now there used to be a house on this lot correct is it in the same location pretty much the house might have been roughly where the the garage is on this slot yeah that's where I saw the brick and uh today okay this actually the when we first took off project we handed a plan from might have been I don't remember what but 200 10 or 11 by Mr goreski who did a plan for the septic system and then we were H to try to perk it in the front to try to move the system to the front instead of up in the back and couldn't get a per in the front so we had to stick with the back and we worked a lot of our stuff came from Mr Gus's plan um and our field work and we we did go off perk it with the board help I believe time okay yeah was it last summer it was okay is there a a motion already caring on the uh on the Sou um you do have erosion temporary erosion controls and you believe what you've designed is going to mitigate storm water and any potential erosion controls and if there needs to be any more additional added we can do that if it becomes a problem absolutely yeah okay I've always been under the impression that you know when you go out there there's an issue you're the boss well yeah and the the other thing I was thinking about is a driveway I mean it would be great if they could do it um a perious surface instead of an impervious surface CU I feel like an impervious surface is just going to be like a ski slope for that water I I'll ask about it that would be a least that would be within the 100 ft that could be conditioned yeah but it's better if it's on the plan because then the driveway wouldn't end up there before I well the plan says proposed driveway doesn't say as fault so you know you condition okay okay either a motion to reject the application or to accept it with with uh AIT of conditions motion to accept notice of content of intent with conditions set forward second all in favor thank you very much okay I have 21 days as you know do you want me to mail or you like to pick um just yeah if you let me know when it's ready I'll see if going be in the area all right okay uh next on the agenda is a continued hearing it's abbreviated notice of area resource area delineation uh it's an application by Dav confirmation of w resources in 833 William Street map 9 20 file number 17- 499 uh scope peer review Services received from Weston and Samson um in the amount of 4720 and a contract signed on five uh 2024 um Lisa could you give us any update on that um well are they here for this um they haven't reviewed it yet but I believe Megan is setting up something to start ring it this week okay if anybody wants to join her or anything just let us know and I'll do my best to at least go out and meet her for a little bit but I can't you know commit to too much um yeah planning on next Wednesday but I can shift it different days sure is the applicant here Mr Butler or anyone representing him all right so uh I'm sorry yes please I was just ose a motion to table until June 28th don't move all in favor uh Lisa for this next one for nepco is this the one where the butter notices were sent outb yes okay so I am a but to the Char General l68 a okay discuss act uh new hearing a notice of 10 application from nepco um V5 U6 and S8 115 Kil I don't know where all those letters stand for okay um just so everybody knows as well I did file a disclosure of the appearance of ative interest because I did work for vhd in the past years and years ago now in a former life um so I did check the box where it says um I confirm that taking into account the facts that I have disclosed I feel that I can perform my official duties objectively and daily um so I turn that in and Mr M asked me to let you guys know just this this the line right down here on 138 yeah it goes through down hot Street and across crosses 138 goes out back here across the center yeah it's so we get a problem then cuz they've called me out on land that I don't even know but it's uh belongs to my sister okay there's a piece out there so well do you own I don't own it Jim but they called me out on Pine Street also and I didn't own that either know I'm so okay but what I'm say what I'm asking is do you own either along the property or is this just uh something your the the property is right over here across in Stone Gate Landing there's a small pel in there that is right by the High T okay yeah well I mean the town called me out on Brook Street but a Sol F yeah so okay uh you know what I mean I don't I don't own the property over there and it it's near the high tension but you know what are we going to do I don't know okay um this transmission line then it's not you're not going to be adding poles or anything like that well it's a replacement project so there'll be new PS that are replacing the existing um um well I would say you guys can hear it but you can't close it until we so okay until we what do you think you've been in this situation before and um not exactly only indict yeah um so you were your property was noticed that you a trustee on or not my property no it belongs to my sister okay are you on the list let's check I'm not on the list I wasn't on the a list on Brook well if you're not on the SEL called me out on it l but it's okay because you know something the assessor's office certified the's list so let's take a look at it and see I was going to suggest if you're not an owner that wouldes also another issue point of order Mr chairman in the event of emergency perhaps you should consider taking public input out of order and allowing a discussion in the public portion and then in the meantime in advance of our next meeting there's a form that can be filed the stion to allow members who have a conflict to still vote in the absence of yep it would be the same form and I could help okay you know what your Lot number is M lot M it's not mine the sisters I don't know whatever what's name Melissa per what is it Harry is it out of it might be on my father's name I mean if you're legally owner of parel I don't really see issue here well I didn't either but like I say the called me out on another pass I don't know I think if you're related to some own it there but I don't know but I don't see where there could be any financial gain are you can check the box yep you can fill out the form file it with the town and check the box if you think you can vote on it with an unbiased I don't think there's a problem like I said I don't think there was a problem with the other one okay two people in town all right um Jason and Paul you're going to be H maybe either of you could fill out papers that in then inro well listen to the report you can hear it and uh then and then we'll just continue the hearing until the other way have no quum i' be happy to file that for sorry Adam yeah that's my father's name not mine that's my sister yeah so I think fill out the phone like they were just saying now his name is still on it after all these years okay okay all right could you make your presentation and then uh we'll continue [Music] and do what we can for the next meeting y right thank you uh Adam rosenblad I work for BHP uh mon Street in Providence R Island I'm representing power Massachusetts electric company here um as a representative so this project um we've been before the town a couple times before for things related to this um we were before the commission back in 2021 for what was um an RDA for a geotechnical investigation that was conducted to support the design of the project um and then we were here um a couple months ago as part of the request again RDA for what were some archaeological test pits that were being done on the line um so the project um includes three circuits they're the V5 the U6 and the S8 these are all 115 kilovolt lines um the V5 and the U6 are on what we call Double certained structure so that means both uh transmission lines occur on the same set of towers um and then the S8 line is U on its own so the S8 line in dyon is predominantly supported right now by wooden AG frame structures so they they just look like an h two wood poles with a crossover across the top um the majority of the V5 and U6 Towers in town are all lattice Towers so those are the sort of rectus looking things um The Proposal is to replace these with galvanized steel modles so that's a single pole um some will be on concrete foundations usually at points of intersection or angles um and then the rest would be what we call directly embeded okay so that's where they drill hole and they put the pole itself right in the ground inside the can and they back build for gravel um so the project is is roughly a four to five year construction project um the plan for them is to start with the S8 circuit which is that IND idual circuit that'll be the one that is started this hopefully this fall um the plan for that would be construction between 18 to 24 months um then they'll move over and start working on the V5 V6 which would come after that um and there may be some points where things are occurring um slightly simultaneously they're going to be working the way from south to North so we're starting um down at Somerset um near one of the old generating plants um their National Grid Otterville substation it's running through Swansea then into dyon Berkeley rainon um and up to bridge Bridgewater where there's another substation so the whole project length is roughly 20 miles um here in dyon we've got about U just under five miles okay um the progression of construction is going to go in a sequence of like phases of different project activities so I'll spend a few minutes kind of along through what those are um the first thing that they do is they'll do what we call vegetation mowing um so that's sort of the prep to allow for Access into the rideway areas where they need to do work they'll bow out the with of the existing rideway access roads to be about 20 ft and then they'll mow their work areas around the existing structural locations where the proposed ones are um and in some places where they have what we call either work pads or wire pulling pads um or sleeve pads these are various areas in the right way that I'll explain in a few minutes um after the vegetation mowing they'll come in and install erosion set control so predominantly on this project we're looking at compost filter sock which is going to be installed um along any areas where there's going to be any sort of artware or project activity with soil disturbance um while they're installing erosion controls they'll be starting to lay what we call very construction matting um so you guys have probably seen these a few times in town now you know the the timber mats that are bolted together they usually measure roughly like 4 by 16 ft um they lay these out temporarily all access routes and around their structures when in Wetlands or um in areas with like Po soil strength um to you know minimize disturbance um and you know spread the weight of the vehicles and whatnot so that they have you know a stable work platform to work from and also are minimizing you know imps for the Wetland when the work on those work pads is completed the plan would be for them to be removed and allow for restoration which may Simply Be removal and observing the vegetation you know coming back um in cases where we require or um we vhp will be the environmental monitor on the project so we're going to be contracted to review these items weekly during construction and during restoration phases um our inspectors are identifying that um an over seating is required we'll do that um in the W that'll be a usually then below a weed free straw as a m CH toply covered um kind of get the restoration before it should continue but um with matting and erosion controls installed the next phase will be coming in and doing the drilling the foundations that are going to be for concrete for those directly bented pole holes that I mentioned earlier um following the foundation Crews will come um what we ter the rattle Cruise well they construct the tower and set it either on the foundation or in the hole okay um and then following the pole setting or structure setting um then we move on to what's called The Wire pulling stage so um they'll either transfer the existing conductor that's in the air to the new towers and use that conductor to pull in the new wire um or if they're going to leave things energized they're going to use messenger ropes um you know and pulley to pull in a rope and then they'll use that rope to pull in the new wires um we do have wire pulling pads that are on the plans which are typically like at a midpoint between structures where they have to set up their tensioning trailers um which have the big schools of wire on them and they they're pretty large they generally run you know 40 to 60 feet long and then they have like some other Associated equ there too those are set up also temporarily in these work areas um once the wies pulled in and everything's connected to the new towers um and energized then they're able to start to remove the old Towers okay so the S8 or wood poles plan is to try and remove them in their entirety um some of the poles are set in wetland presently and if the determination is made that they will cause more harm than good in the removal of the butt of the pole um usually the environmental monitor will make the call like you know don't don't pull that out because you're going to make a hell of a mess you know they just cut it as close as they can and they'll You Know cover it over with some wet top so I don't see it be down with it um for the lattice Towers they're going to use um likely um with either Crane or supporting um you know excavator with a big stick um you know kind of a p on it to break the towers down into pieces that they can load into rolloffs and and haul out of it right away um the plan is for the uh Foundation footings for the towers to be removed about 18 in below R so we go down about 18 in cut everything off and then they'll ReStore in kind with top soil Wetland top soil it's a structure that W once the towers are removed um they'll formally go through um with what we call C final restoration um which is basically stabilizing slopes and any exposed soil surfaces um with you know the completion of the project but because the Project's so long and it's being done in so many different phases they will be doing that throughout So the plan is not to just leave everything for four years as a complete components of the project the plan is to restore them in time you know shortly after they've been finished so for example on the S8 circuit um there's going to be some work pad areas associated with that that they won't need for the B5 B6 of the plan will be to remove that matting restore those areas um for areas in Uplands where they um pushed in a gravel surface so they have something level to work from they would apply top soil and then likely hydraulically apply you know m to those um with some type of a bond or something with um you know especially if you're sort of heading either out of you know away from what is an appropriate part of the growing season to reestablish veget cover things um so that's sort of the process in a nutshell on the project um as I mentioned earlier um National Grid NE has contracted with being HB which is us who are doing permitting to serve as the environmental monitors on the project so we'll have at least a weekly presence on site to ensure permit compliance making sure that erosion set controls are intact and functioning um what's on the plans is basically considered by us and the company to be the bare minimum required so if there's something that we see on a week toe basis that requires attention or you know some type of supplement Maybe that's a secondary line or you know adding in a water bar or something like that along the access road um we would make that recommendation to U the supervisor of the project that it will get completed so uh that's that's sort of the plan to you know maintain compliance that presence is there we do produce weekly reports associated with that subm okay thank you do you have any questions to and I'll even let others ask questions uh even though you may not be able to vote or at least done at this time I cannot participate in the matter at all so I can't ask any questions all right that okay anyone in the audience okay uh would you ask for continuance then so that we can square things away and have a majority uh on next meeting yes I would request a continu with folks that we could close it okay um in lie of a surefooted uh quum even now uh I'm going to make an executive decision to uh continue the hearing till June 20th for the purpose of uh uh having a quum vote so moved thank you [Music] okay next the [Music] 20 okay uh you and discuss uh a new hearing it's an NR application by Antonio ala TNA Realty Trust seeking confirmation of wetland resources at zero William Street Claim prepared by R Hawk environmental uh map uh let's see Mass D file number we don't have one yet um for those see scop and peer review Services received from Weston and Samson in the amount of 8300 um for those of you wondering this is way down in the somerset uh was it C conine suet line on William Street sh lot and all that uh and near you know where Jimmy Souza lives near there is anyone here representing um okay I don't have EAS uh for the record my name is Bob I'm with Warhawk environment um with a civil engineers for the project um so basically it's a uh on the parcel on easterly side of William Street um down Hunter Hill development is down to the sun of I don't that helps um the whole property and its entirety is 80 um 80.4 Acres abouts um we're looking to just have the front portion the resource areas on the front portion of the property the rest the re portion over here the proper is kind of cut off from the rest of the site by a big chunk of wetlands which we don't intend to Crossing um so all work when we do get to proposing it will be in the area where having enough the resource areas um the the Wetland resource areas were delineated by LEC um there's a um boarding vegetated Wetland which is on the southwestern portion of the site um there's a flag there's a series they go to uh D series and then H series to fin out to to the Propet here there is a meral pool located inside of that weap resource area um that meral pool is confirmed by Brad holes of environmental Consul restoration there's another B vegetated weap on the easterly part of the site which kind of biceps the site from you know the two halves um that was donated is B1 through b 96 so 96 Flags around that and again within that area there's a there's a pool was identified I bet there's multiple pools in that one in this SE no I mean the one you pointed to yeah it's kind of a big flat area that holds water yeah so yeah now is is that area uh not showing well is that Farmland that that uh this this was formerly Farmland yeah this is a this kind of a a house here in the middle and the property wraps around that house and it was the star owner on that one on that listed there uh James soua okay all right so I I'm exactly where WS right around okay yes and then the last resource area which is I think by Lo mylaw is um an isolated vegetated weapon on the Northwestern for property right alongside and that doesn't I don't believe at least that means that the state it does is there a the road anywhere there do you know that's to my knowledge yeah maybe by the next time you can find out if there if there's a connection yeah either they are at the South yeah okay Megan is here from West Samson but she hasn't um gotten the go on this I believe you guys just I believe I believe the I'm not sure if you received it but they applicant was it on Monday yeah okay so did you have a signed copy now yes I believe i i y so we'll get that okay um do you people have any questions right now it's going to be reviewed by West Samson um does anyone here have any questions Mor can you please request a W9 from the applicate I already have it perfect thank um initially just looking at that if you know you could put a note that I know this lot goes further to the east y if you could put a note on the plan that like these additional resources this way um there is pretty it's small we can make it bigger but yeah it's just on the inset so yeah it is there maybe put a note up top in the notes you know what I mean yes yes great y yep and are you planning to certify any the pools no okay we'll treat them as certifi puls for for okay yeah see okay probably fine any questions or any questions from the audience not the well not right okay is there um a motion to continue yeah do we need to accept the scope of peerreview services as well that would be great uh motion to accept the scope of peerreview services received from W Samson $300 soing for to continue this next meeting yes could you just sign us on the way out great I thought that was already approv WS I wasn't sure was okay all right yes okay we have a uh certificant Appliance request for 1550 Maple Street file number 1723 [Music] yeah Lisa is everything uh uh 1550 uh Maple Street um so yeah um this one is one they came for certificate of last year and I had on the site visit and observed that there was cutting in the 25 foot no touch um the owner agreed to plant some and actually was a owner with the owner yeah and um so they did some plantings out there I want to see 16 shs and I went out and looked at them they're thriving they're no longer mowing that area so um if you guys are amable then you can sign the certificate of compliance in your folder okay uh is there a motion to issue a certificate of compliance second fa hi uh okay a request for certificate of compliance from 2795 Le Street uh number believe the address is wrong it's 2759 2759 okay corre it I read it wrong 2759 a file number 17 295 um so this one um I had been out there last year um let me just [Music] this when was your house built so [Music] House was built in 2008 an order of conditions obviously this is the existing conditions plan which differs from the original approved plan um 200 18 here's the site October [Music] 2018 April 20 oh September 2014 and April 2024 see the differences so the approved plan had the Le field house not sure if it have looks [Music] like the approved plan [Applause] [Music] so you've got the septic the dwelling the garage you don't have any clearing actually don't have the tree line on here you have an existing Farm out at the 25t no touch and you have a well and this is what's actually out there so I do not recommend and I told line this last year I wouldn't recommend a certific compliance until we dealt with the violations okay they're actually they worked uh a bit within was that the 25 or the 54 both um and that's that's the pool that they that they did uh also more struct there's also more structures that were built in the [Music] uh that the 50 so this is going to be the one this is going to be the put oh no actually it's this is the uh Lisa the pink one is what 25 25 and the and that's 100 yeah so they put the pool in the uh no build Zone land Pao maybe even the um okay so what we need to do then is look for some uh compensation on the uh Wetland side the um restoration I should say maybe that's a bad word cont restoration restoration um the near map is really great go back um did you guys want to see these ones and switch them or no okay I don't know yeah they quite they are similar um have you offered any suggestions to them about no I haven't robob hasn't reached out and quite frankly I meant to call today and I did not get a chance supposed to be he was was maybe he's at the other building do you want me to try to call him do you think he likes the zipper or anything have to joke about it his number Mr chairman just to keep things on track I just shot to text to the Town Administrator because I wanted to be sure I know the alarm this building automatically comes on at a c Point yeah you just got back believe it's 10 okay we will try to push things along a little faster then um okay we're going to look for some Restoration in some of the land uh you're going to have to get a uh an environmentalist to to look at what you have done and where you can create uh new Wetlands to replace what uh the you have worked in um I guess at Lisa would you he's not answering would you be available to to give him advice let's say on Monday since the alarm is going to go on at 10: I want to yeah so I mean this is talk to B and we figure out the time to come sit down and yeah did any of you guys want to do a site visit I mean is that necessary shows exactly measure this figure out what sorry maybe one of these there it is yeah me let me take theer okay so for the time being would you be looking for a motion to table motion to table there we go Motion to table is there a second do you have any questions for us not really I I told the guy who put the pool in that he couldn't put the pool in unless he got it signed off on so I don't understand how he put the pool in without getting signed off oh yeah so okay I told him he couldn't put it in if he didn't get the sign so maybe he he didn't get it from conservation char we don't have any like paperwork on that but all right second yes motion made in second all in favor okay so that's okay you're you're done for now um now we have a request for certificate of compliance for 2808 Maple Swamp Road file number 17233 do you need anything else from me um no yeah just just have give me a com on there right thank you um so Mr prair is not here however um the house is built the site is stabilized and I recommend and everything looks good the posts are actually up with the flers everything looks great so yeah really good really stable okay is there a motion to issue a certificate compliance motion to issue certificate in fav okay um next on the agenda uh we have been talking about a draft for the uh the bylaws let's just back up one second on that one is you took photos and they show our soers and like how we would like know them so I think if we wanted to have photos something like the newsletter something that might be one you know they look nice G you might end up in the next stor water calendar that's a good okay um right now we have a a list of changes that we're going to make for the bylaws uh they have not been uh put into the uh our format but uh Morin this is going to be done in over our bylaws right I'm going to place them right in and then I'll highlight the changes when I email them to you guys okay let me just read what's going to go in there then you'll be able to see it and we'll we'll get copies out to each of of you um but it's going to be the Whitland it's going to be a fee for for the bylaw a local fee of $50 payable to DCC right now there is no fee um a consultant fee scheduled for applicants and that will be uh coming up setback rental pool potential rental pool should hold special protection and I really we have that already Le the the all pool all pools will have a mitigation car up this is the big change uh all pools have a medication C of at least 100 ft and shall be a natural and underst uh minor activity exemptions and that would be utilities uh coordination with other boards uh edit section five to include DPW are review prior to approval um and edit section 7 to remove prior to effective and again this is all going to come up in writing these are just the items that are going to be put into the uh the new B the new uh suggestion on consultancies will be detered by peer review uh Personnel along with DCC it'll be based upon lot size and flagging numbers and unpaid enforcement fines will be attached on personal property tax until paid are there any other ones you guys uh this I don't know I I wrote down a lot of hand ones but I have them everybody everybody will be want to pass that back to we're all going to get the the uh bylaws as they exist with the new items added in highlighted so and then we can make additional changes uh as we see fit and how it how it flows in the one by I would really like to see would be um to make C make any activity exempt under the local by that is exempt under the protection act we've seen several filings in the past where it's local filing only and there's no DDP file number because it's exempt I think it might be more efficient if we were to create a think concurrent exemptions so exemptions for we protection exemption okay one one thing that pops into my mind the uh D um uh law on veral pools is 100 feet whereas we have the veral pool 100 feet and then another 100t protection so in that case there they would have to file under right right this would be an exemp like something that's specifically exempt all right all right yeah the only thing I would say is so um septic septic replacement without significant enlargement is examp that should probably be exed the local bylaw too the only thing I would say with that one is I I ran across a couple of instances where I feel like it would be better if I was notified on the repairs because I could help them guide them guide them into a better location on the site away from any Leone disturbance or R disturbance so maybe we just without enlargement we have to kind of talk about that okay well that can you know when we get it you can handw write it in and and we'll make additional changes as we go along okay but for the next meeting do you want us to um we'll list out what's exempt under the wetlands protection act so we can discuss those items yeah that'll be great so the select B will probably close the warrant the special town meeting Lenny probably sometime October is I'm sorry um yes a special meeting yes okay yeah we wouldn't be ready before right yeah I have a note in here have everything by September to um Board of selectman yeah that's that's a good timeline that gives us a good three really Mee I se yeah last year was September 15 all be okay perfect so we had at least three meetings then in the worst case any yeah and we should be able to get a lot done by the next meeting and uh on on on the bylaws and uh continue okay we have u a draft coordination between Town committing authorities and projects issued in your package you have request for preliminary re review I don't you want to look that over is this the document that we reviewed in the past we said uh I don't think so did you this is this I got from all right so this is this um and it might be something in we discussed it preliminarily and I guess it should go before the of s may I know but I just want you guys to talk about it um yeah it's going to become a like part of the Town policy that have to be determined by this elect but we could definitely look at it procedure kind right we can make a recommendation we got a deadline deadine a long time away [Applause] yeah I think we'll make the deadline you think we'll make it a half hour early we didn't do anything cuz you left oh okay would you like me to pass this around up yeah oh okay okay sorry um okay we're all didone see okay was anything done onai for you okay um what what do you think shall we take it a look at it and then put it on next week next month for V yeah I I really like this I I do too this is really good well then you want to do it now then from a draft to um yeah I feel like if if there's any question about anything someone could we could put that on our web page and then someone had you have a question like I justed to read it yeah then then but I think we should actually get the board of select input on it I there's no way anything can get messed up or dropped yeah nothing can fall through the cracks this right and that's what's done when it comes to this in the audience tonight yeah all right right so we approve it tonight then that would be great and then we can try to get in on the v s agenda okay if that's what you guys wanted motion to approve preliminary review second all in fav hi okay did I skip that on draft coordination during time committee I think we did skip that okay all right oh we did the draft I wasn't looking uh we just review discuss that conservation letter to a company that's the one we just worked on yes yes okay bills payable um a motion to uh pay uh well do do instead of bills payable do you want to go back to the coordination you want to take this out of order and do you guys want to just skip down to the other people that are here so we can take that okay so you want me to call 2371 yes okay I said you guys oh we have are you talk about 2371 County yeah we do have a couple of other oh that's under the ohes first you want to finish the we got about three three quick ones to do I think all right you think they're quick um okay the bills payable is there a motion to pay all bills as uh has received we have bills from beta um WB Mason and um and another one from beta uh $747 $333 31 from beta and um Mason was 3798 motion made second all in favor okay want to pass after Lisa okay uh reorganization of the Conservation Commission and 2025 physical year signature authorization okay um has not been done uh with judiciously in the past but um is I would like to see a vote for um chairman of the commission to be made every single uh year in uh in April or May May this is just before the uh um reappointments are made by the Selectmen okay is there a motion for someone to be put forth for uh uh chairman Commission of the commission motion to reappoint Jim digits as chairman of the Conservation Commission and and I will accept all in favor okay now uh right now we have Paul I would be a sign signature um for bills and we have Paul as back up do we wish that same um situation since Paul was there at the Town Hall all the time yes okay someone make a motion that that um Paul be back up to signature on uh bills and other legal notices make a motion for Paul Reynolds to be second in command is there a is there a second second second okay all in favor okay we have a we have an application a volunteer application for the Conservation Commission by Abel Mariano okay nice ah isn't isn't this meeting wonderful you you sure you still want to be absolutely uh yeah this is a hectic one coming here um okay we have read your your application and uh um okay you know we do a lot of uh things in the town with things no pay I'm used to that um okay uh uh do you have anything you want to say about uh uh why you want to be on the commission well I've always been interested in uh you know the W protection act and uh I've been involved with the EPA and other environmental groups Island and Massachusetts uh we just finished the restoration job and sharing Massachusetts so it's sort of a passionate yeah very good very good um anyone else anyone have any questions no question I read through Mr Mar's resume is very impressive um I think that you'd be a fantastic addition okay now what would happen is uh you would become a an associate member and uh uh you would uh we we uh uh will nominate you approve you for from the commission then your name will go to the selectman to become an associate member then um you and and Moren when this occurs uh to present uh Abel's name to the selectman I also want on their Lenny Hull's name to go as well as a reminder that he is also up and approved so we will have two associate members okay is there a motion then to accept able as an associate member to the commission no move is is there a second second all in favor okay your name will be forwarded to the selectman to be uh to be an associate member and then when every one of us uh resides retires croes [Applause] whatever and uh our next meeting is the uh 20th of June and behind you is you he has already been appren and I don't know why his s hav't brought him up but we ask for be appointed uh at the same time ass what happen is when you're here if there is someone like we had with where two or three people can't vote because of possible conflict of interest you would be we brought in as a voting number with votes that's a great yeah right um yes you can't just what you have to write it up as a bylaw change to be voted on okay all right you got that right Lisa we changing the world tonight oh I think we are I think we are okay okay Lenny are you going to help us write that up real quick no problem okay so can you email us that the exact language it should be cuz the assessors don't R do that they the assesses not the assesses I'm sorry zba already has something in place oh perfect we just got to copy but now does it have to go to the bylaw or do we just have to vote on have to go to thew well you know everything well your next chairman no we can only do what the bylaw authorizes us do we don't doesn't authorize us to change the status of the okay all right uh you're on meeting 2371 County Street um you have a plan for us uh for restoration of properties yeah so uh I had left Off plan yeah so you know as you guys know I was out with my husband and his surgery and then I finally get a chance to review this and I was hoping that um Mr and I could sit down meeting but we had we hav't been able to and I think couple so I know that um uh I would like to get together uh with Lisa to go over the wel vegetation because of uh what we're proposing um for that area make sure that it's kosher and I just want to make sure that uh everybody understands what the plan of is more there another half you guys can take those home if you want and then um if I have enough cop do some homework yeah so my initial comments um are to add a legend for the symbols I mean we can go over them but add a Legend um calculate the disturbance numbers y um final disturbance area calculation and then add notes on the removal in sequence okay and then um yeah do what's known as the construction SE as well okay yeah cuz you just haveing notes but you don't have like yeah and actually that's something that kind of want to go over you steps out and hopefully we can have it oned out before next meeting yeah that's what I'm hoping so meeting like yeah let's set up a date now because we're both busy right but um we do have a question for you we were wondering if there was activity there now because um the DPW reported to me that they had driven by and saw some work going on in the backyard so sure yeah um it was work up that was close to the house was more than 100 ft from the wetlands I have some photo I have photograph the work that was done I actually was going to have it printed John be Mr but I I can show you what it was it was um it was a wall that was taken out cind block wall that was close to the house that he's referring to right it's way up past 100t okay um Lisa this is something that's going to take uh so that wall is sorry where is it that's that's radio that's that wall that's that W so the so 100 foot is back in here okay 1 inal 20 yeah yeah it's way up and my C was in contact with the building C so he was aware that he actually authorized it yeah okay no I'm just talking about we are you sure go at the bottom of the hole did it no just chill so so if the scale isal 20 horizontally horizontally I'm not sure that it was outside the 100 here but you have scale no so is way back in here I got a question you said somebody from the DPW who was it was there another anonymous nope it was Mr fer ask yeah no an okay it in the future though it would be best if you could contact us but um you know especially with there's a violation on the property so got a problem talk to the go inspector so it's pretty close to um but anyways but so you don't propose any more work in the backyard until I mean that Wall's coming down it's coming down it's falling down own the billp is giving me permission to knock it down yeah it's already it's already got a reverse caner on it so it's it's about to slump I they call it right well the land slump no yeah the land is slumping and know the engineering said we call it a reverse can but that's okay so what is going to go there uh I have no idea what do you mean go there well you have a retaining wall yeah so it's going to be going tell the Earth there so you're going to gently you're going to gently slope that and it will it has nothing to do what's going on it's far enough away from the anything you can environmental right now well we should probably do ansite visit with the nobody's going on the property anymore you to get on the property in order to enforce this if you want to come on the property again go to court get a court order through the enforcement order and through this we are allowed and that's one of the conditions what happens is we'll go with yeah we'll go with so once we finalize this plan or maybe I don't know if the guys want to go in the meantime once they had a chance to digest it they would like us visit is what J saying well um what we can do is uh we can do a preemptive site visit before any work start so everybody can see exactly what's there uh and then once the work start you will be get the reports uh for the work as it our progress we probably do either weekly or bi-weekly because the way it is the beginning you made a comment way way in the beginning you cannect to my property anytime you wanted to that's not going to happen CU I'll be standing there that's right you want an incident in this town again I'll be standing there protecting my property you get judge to say you come on on site basically during the whole well yeah because of the slope be dangerous to work on be careful yeah order the commission to approve this though I mean I can't I would not suggest you guys approve any restoration plan without being able to walk on the property it would from obviously you need to notify him when you be there but I think that someone should be able to go to the property and be it I've never experienced a violation that you could not walk on well that's part of the ERS well there's no official order because it's not a notice of and there's no real certificate of compliance either my nephew told you not come back on his property quot on Whit it's worth noting that as of July 1st the day in trans will no longer accept construction debris and given the history of the site I would say that with that in mind we should pay close attention to the level of fill it's currently [Music] there people probably enough time see everything's nothing else to see there well the this slope has to get stabilized first of all portion that has to come out that's what [Music] that's I'm Talk's there you're coming back it's get it's get taking material out bringing correct material we're going to we're going to remove some material we're going to reshape it bring in some material get it slope do you have an exact amount of what you moving not pertaining to what he just said that's one thing we looking I think I said was on the are volume so we have to do the but we have the slope projected on obviously we couldn't do every single contour line would be able to but uh will get you the Vol G's yeah that's the only thing I saw in the physical logistical aspects of redoing it or getting estblished yeah that was question okay all right the plan's going to require a few changes like we said so if you know John and I can set the date what's what's you what do you have open the beginning of June like next week yeah believe it or not just I know I got I got to redo all the chairs in there Wednesday THS um we do Thursday morning yeah okay we don't need any continuation here okay um is this your able maybe you can since you've done a lot of restoration too maybe you can weigh in with Lisa sometime before meeting with did you want did you want to come to the meeting sure I'd love to have theut that would be great when Thursday at 10 a.m. below level 979 okay looking forward to it all right okay uh so we'll see you as a group uh on the 20th of June all right okay 1035 William Street letter issued site visit without back engineering um site visited uh on 7623 um we had a public hearing on 42023 and Clos with the denial on 720 then um let's see review discuss act enforcement audit issued and signed by agent on 1026 23 and it has been unclaimed and served by a constable um what the enforcement a has been recorded at the registry of deeds okay nothing on that one okay next we have John Buffington that's Zero Street put me at the end please what at the end yes well just go ahead do it at the end yeah no problem my goodness Are we almost there um okay um Lisa why don't you just uh start with these and go as quickly as you can we got to get everything done by 9:45 oh that's fine um around 1420 y 1420 we did send the letter out um letting the owner know on um was a certified letter on May 2nd regarding this clarifying that the agricultural exemptions versus the bylaw requirements um are different um so we did send as a matter of fact the same letter to the other from property that you guys had asked me to send it to so we did get a signed copy back from each of them signed green card and then moving on to 10:33 Oak Street um so I did meet with Mr Watson the engineer and he we have agreed uh this can be handled to an enforcement order um and enforcement order has been drafted for this and it's ready for your signature um they're ready they're prepared to come to the next meeting um so they're going to come to the 620 meeting and prior to that they're going to submit a restoration plan we'll need a site visit as [Music] well okay so uh do we need to open the enforcement yes okay is there a motion to issue an enforcement order uh at 33 Oak Street is there a second all in favor [Music] okay okay uh Lisa okay um so I don't know if Dave wants to take over on this one go ahead that was out there on Monday and met that and went over all the pl of things that she is going to put on her prop and everything looks pretty positive and moving forward they're all Native they're going to be dug in by hand she's going to contact us for a site visit before I mean after she's done yep okay great uh 297 wheel Street um no update right Morin no that's what you have here um 13 [Music] um so yeah Dave and I went out yesterday with the new owner who is maintaining the erosion controls the grass is up it's probably 80% uh coverage with a lawn yeah looks really good yeah we uh we congratulated the new owner from Puck into D and he's amazed at the sounds that he hears he FRS yeah and the new owner applied for a pool permit I measured up I measured the area and it's outside the 200 foot I signed off on the building for for the pool today and Mr Oliver has agreed to come to the next meeting to further discuss the veral pool however when Dave and I circled the veral pool we didn't see any species I didn't know if you guys would take a ride by say on a rainy night slowly and see if you hear anything maybe the guy with the electric car sorry well I'll tell you I sat hearing them uh at at soon as that dust and they're they're I know they're everywhere the well I mean we also got confirmation from Mr Oliver saying that he's been hearing all kinds of things well no Mr Oliver wasn't there you mean the new owner the new owner yeah but that could come from anywhere okay 2470 Pleasant Street um 24 s yes the owner is here um Eric do you want to introduce yourself great Eric B owner of the home at 247 moved into the home in 2020 um and uh upon moving in realized there was a uh an area behind my home that was the formal railroad tracks um and that some fill had been put into that area around the railroad tracks causes the water to back up that would naturally drain down the back of the property talked with uh DPW and conservation committee we out was storm water yeah about two years ago um and we talked about mitigation efforts of essentially getting some of that fil out of there in order for the water to flow naturally um here this is a continuation of that process for yeah so I don't know if you guys want to do a site visit cuz you guys never been there if they're allowed to walk on your property well when you are going let us know and if we can I heard the 20th you property so would you like to come across fo Bridge Pleasant are you um coming down Main Street are you before the boat ramp or after well after so I am I am South I'm just south of the property that was just discuss got it okay and he's just north of heart Street oh okay I the house it's um it's set back right back yeah I know that is spot so so I can be at the property on the 20th if that if the commit already the 20th is our next meeting here I'm sorry what what was the we don't have a site visit for that set up unfortunately but we will I think um after we maybe finalize this plan so so do you guys want to maybe set aight Vis it for this one or yeah sure do you want to do it for two weeks cuz next week's kind of busy now um let's look at the week of the all possible school day the week of the 17th would be ideal but okay um because my wife can be at the top of me okay that's the week of our meeting so that would be good because that actually that second week of jun is the same week is town meeting so that's that's going to be a okay and then I'm off that uh Thursday the 13th off as well you're off one I'm office Thursday June 13th okay so which which date is good for you to meet is there any home owner just said that the following week after that is that right sir we from the 12th to the 18th is that right 17 oh I'm sorry sorry 17 sorry that I reopened the calendar and I went back can anyone meet on I got on the 19th can anyone meet the 19th is juneth that's going to end up Jun thank you how about Tuesday the 18th yeah anyone available toit R sh say 3m. or 2 2:30 2:30 okay 2:30 p.m. Tuesday the 18th does that work okay and um your address is sorry we have so many 247 or Zer okay thank you is it 230 yeah yeah did you want to join us I won't be able to on that okay I love to we'll take photos actually you can look at aiel too if you want thank you okay yeah that won't be long right I'll do a Dr break okay um do you want us to do it earlier 23 okay okay moving on yeah 710 stre um here is not here for an update did you speak with him or thank you no I left one message there still waiting get on okay 880 High Street um an enforcement order was drafted for your [Applause] signature okay we need a v you guys want to see the aial for [Music] this I don't see so just as a reminder we see it on the agenda but um on February 1st 23 we sent a letter about some cutting we try cattle out there and we told them you needed to get a flag they got it all flagged and then we told you know what couldn't could do at a meeting since then these are the area look at and this is post it's it's um the Phil area in the northeast corner of the property uh the northeast of the house Northeast or Northwest okay yeah Northeast all right Northeast okay this is pres so Mr chairman I looking for a motion to issue the enforcement order yes motion okay made the motion is there a second second all in favor uh 1070 Smith Street um yeah I think the owner's here yeah how you doing everybody I'm the owner of 10 7 Smith Street John Mor this is my son Ean Mar which is going to be the new president over there um so we were contacted about some cutting being done over there so Dave and I took a ride and we take took a walk there was some contractors there and we walked around um and then we did send you a letter it was a certified letter all right I think I emailed it to your wife this yeah just okay so it appears to this two that I can see one of um on Smith Street to the yeah the South yeah South and then there's one to the northwest of the garage so there's two wetlands and at least one of them is a ronal maybe both of them um but I think theyve proposed to do a lot of um changes to the property so um including some Landscaping and they've cleared how much would you say you cleared on that one U well basically when we knocked some trees out we had two structures there already so every apparently the place was in Probate for a few years so everything was just overgrown so what happened was went there and revamp the place my son but at the same time everything was just grown on top of the structures so I I went by my plot plan which my plot plan set to the left which is on the South Side on Smith Street that's all the wetlands that I had so where I cut the trees down there what that's where there's two structures there so which I I was indicated that basically there was Wetlands there because there's two structures there so everything we cut was just stuff that was overgrown on top of the on top of the two structures so problem of using the D Wetland ma Thing versus yeah yeah I guess it's a little different from ROV because I live in rovi and usually we go by a PL plant and usually that's what we go by but you know and that's the same time there was two structures there so I'm assuming that there was no wets there unfortunately it was like the wild west previously yeah they're right here yeah how far from the structures did you cut maybe four five six feet oh well he cut four five six feet off the structure but he cut probably another six probably another six on the other side of the other structure and then another six on the other side of the how many square feet a lot of trees but he didn't go far away from the structure no no absolutely not just asking um so the cutting is this is the house and the cutting is the Wetland there's a wetland here and there's a wetland here this whole area one's pretty much garage foundation which I thought I just put up the gar because everything looks so new so they thought i' put a garage up on the wetlands that's exactly what we so it's been up already since the structure of the house back in the90s and then the the um the shed doesn't have a foundation to it but they had it the send the box which what I what I did I cleared it so I was actually going to put it closer to the okay I I think a solution to this is for you to have the Wetland flag okay so that you know where they are okay then to reestablish vegetation natural vegetation within the 25t no touch Zone okay okay then what what we would do is we have you put these little signs up saying uh Wetlands so that uh you your son doesn't go into her just not with equipment okay you know I think that's the it's going to be the easiest solution so um I don't know how long it would take you to get uh someone to fly against you know person who is qualified yeah yeah nobody from so we have a list of cons gra this off you guys that I can you know you have it on your website or I can email it to yeah if you want before you leave but um yeah so I think the key here is no more clearing no we haven't cleed I mean all the claim that we did is already done anyways we're not claring disturb so no pulling any STS let's figure this out before you any STS that are there we we up shoots but whoever Flags it can give you uh you know ideas and tell you what to to plan in there and so we would like we're going to have to see the flagging so they'll map the site flag it and then uh tell us what you're going to do there and then you bring it to us and we'll approve it yeah what going to be done there is nothing it's just cleed I'm not up over that your wife said something about some Landscaping changes in the front including driveway like yeah well there was Landscaping already there we just ripped it all out so yeah it was existed Landscaping there m so so brick they brick front they like be shrug but like I said it was like so neglected for so long so like dead overgrown it was it wasn't worth playing with you to see like if you have that site plan and the w scientists could you know cross up that engineer's name and maybe sketch in where the weapons are the buffer zones unless you want them to do something and a report which would be even better if they can provide you with a report and a sketch and then you can talk about what your plans off the property in that buffer zone we need to also figure out if those are vernal pools because that makes a difference as far as the jurisdiction another question like I got the driveway there now that exists if I go rip that out and put a new Drive does that have anything to do with the wet also again even though there's a driveway there yeah it's probably in jurisdiction just you know do it on the map this is what you're going to do and and fire it's an RDA so so we can we act on your like I said D's a little different from raob so I mean this is a little n me okay what we going to Doan so give us your email send it's the same email that you sent to my wife just sent it to she didn't respond though no she got it though she got it because she gave me the paperwork okay yeah okay she said she's going to be at a soccer practice or oh yeah I got a I got a younger one which is uh got to be grading doing like the final socer moments you know yeah enjoy it it goes away they get cheaper yeah I can tell tell we're all set I'm trying to move it along no absolutely we don't to ex session pretty soon no it's all right so for this I'll touch up with you guys and get some of that if you don't mind send that information and'll we'll figure it out a lot tonight by the way no John John's going to go off yes so should we sit on Jim the next then I'm going to throw everybody out June 20th is the next meeting you probably already heard that on number but if you could provide us with an update for that definitely even if you don't have it flagged by then they might not no I'll give you an update regardless so sounds good all right thank you very much all thank you have a good night nice meet you guys okay John you got two minutes um good news this morning I got the purchase and sale agreement on the proper conratulations it's at's office right now um so you got it signed yeah signed awesome congratulations that's great that's great we'll work with you in the re to come here tonight and say it's off show wow okay all right congratulations if we have additional public session items on the agenda we have to leave ex come back right so what I would advise would be for us to take public input correspondence out of that we can announce okay anyut yes when you're working on your bu be good if you add something about these stage for those batteries in there very hazardous material I want to we could definitely consider well we're going to come back to that next month because we didn't have four of to vote on so that will come back so um uh we'll probably have to have okay maybe maybe some kind of containment uh area I did a little research very scary stuff like the fire department I talk to ch for new yeah fire station I asked him about it and you don't put okay if it's not in Wetlands if they're not putting it in our jurisdiction we don't have a say in it it would be the fire department who has the say we can only deal with what's um 100t from wetlands and 200 feet from R and high water in I'm referring to as a br solution to low water in if there was a fire one of those you don't it it anything happen that's not us that's not us what is the Zone get up resp he came he came here because his the high tension holes and everything else are going to go through wetlands and so they have to no that wasn't that wasn't for that but but he was dealing today with the he just told us where battery storage was going to be he didn't tell us his his work was on the power lines for us no no no people L yeah but he's way up in that in that corner I realize that he's got nothing to go P battery stor right but I'm saying is that battery storage in our jurisdiction to be close it's going to be close it all depends on what he's doing and then what is the buffer that we have that's what wein that's what we will look at on the 20th yeah back the other issue you discussing said he take cut those those erect buildings down and go each each low level is he even concrete the ground very over that that's what he seemed to be saying I thought that was a bad thing noen is yeah it's already buried so do you have anything that you know of that would be I just I very concrete illegal dumping dumping blocks of concrete what I heard was were po going to be not extracted from the ground in my own personal opinion that's a hazard long-term Hazard wait the um wooden poles okay no they got because of the [Music] chemicals he was talking about cutting off I was hearing what's on the top of the cement about uh the power company and the hazardous waste from the batteries and cutting of the poles leaving either cement in or the wooden uh treated poles okay well we continue that here so we're not supposed to discuss it as a board right now actually the doesn't go out like everybody says excuse me so doesn't go out like everybody says they've done testing in areas where poles have been sitting like forever and it's like four to 6 in out that's as far as the PS travel I I realize that but I'm thinking of wildlife or SW animals that they only they're only leaving them he said they're only leaving them so they they're going to take out as many as they can but if there's a problem to devastate the area right if they're going to pull it out and it's going to disrupt the big area they're going to leave they're going to come and flush and leave but do you think that it would be prudent to uh have someone the ones taking leapy might have someone at least them one them well that that can be a part of our order of conditions you know what I mean this way here so you come next week next month uh you can bring that up I will okay yeah don't are is public input all set yes one more thing be could if you could reach out on it's so close for to see if their conservation is working with them also they could have some What lands on the other side of that property line we've already hassled with taton over stuff it's I know but we've hassled with tton over over uh problems and uh um you know that's going to be um I hate to say it but we we can't it into their jurisdiction I know what you're saying believe me you saw how busy we were tonight listen this is my thought on this this is they they should be they should have filed um when they excuse me when they file for the project they will have to do the same thing and they'll have to notify the whole B the all right so one about that already sold this property because of that why you do a the research on those batteries you don't want to be guys we have 28 minutes okay no correspond okay I have congratulations am oh okay even though it's a long process very long okay have a great night everybody thank you all for coming thank you Lenny want to close the door okay yes please so we can okay under mess's General law chter open that shut off first you must declare Massachusetts under Massachusetts General Law chapter 38 section 21 a uh 3 to discuss strateg strategy with respect to collective bargaining or litigation if open meeting may have a detrimental effect upon the bargaining or litigating position of the Republic body and the chair so declares so technically you have to declare that it work and the chair so declares oh so we are going into this uh executive session and I will end the broadcast and oh one last point of order Mr chairman could you please just confirm if we will or will not be returning to open session technically we're supposed to state if we're not returning to we are not returning to open session thank you very much get