all right so the first order of business is the minutes um would anybody like to make a motion to approve the minutes okay Margaret makes a motion anybody want a second okay Bill seconds it all in favor I I he wasn't there yeah yeah okay um all right so uh second thing is yes we have Barbara Halper and and Roger dur I forgot you're not actually a member the and I guess it's because I know that Mindy said she wasn't gonna be here uh and so far it looks like we're the only one here as far as I can tell yeah that's it okay um Jeff they come on right uh yeah I haven't heard anything from him but maybe yeah so right um okay um do it's usually uh we usually ask if uh oh suzan do you happen to have the um uh Wi-Fi password for the township um I think so let me look I'm using my my Hotpot right now I just just uh I just wanted to see if I could transfer on you have it I'm not sure if I do I keep I have maybe let me see um that's commanding Frankl Township internet password okay um okay I'll give it a go right now I'm just on my Wi-Fi hotspot and it's just working great so I'm just gonna I'm just gonna keep it as is just don't change anything if it's yeah but for next time I'll give it a go unless it gives me no but um would did any of our guests want to say anything before before we get started or anything look all right uh Emergency Management hazardous waste I don't see anything there so guess we'll go on to the zoning and planning board applications well um so the first one I have listed is the ZB 24-3 uh let me see here that one was um with single family home on Clearfield Avenue on a vacant lot they seeking a variance for minimum Frontage uh lot is non-conforming is a non-conforming 13.9 feet uh and doesn't meet that 150 foot um and it's located in a residential agricultural Zone I just have that as a a summary um and let me see if I can bring wait right here you have the Z oh [Applause] okay okay so okay so I didn't really see not that I very good at like knowing what's going on sometimes here because you know even though I've been a member for a while I'm not I don't have the knowledge that some people do but I didn't really see any like Wetlands or anything like that on there so I don't know if we have anything to say about that um did you get the map for this one yes and and I don't never seen Maps but um this seemed to be a pretty innocuous one it's just uh they're just short aren't they of making the yeah it's it's yeah you know they're I they don't have quite the frontage uh on one side or something and they don't have quite the acreage isn't that the one like that ACS are over on the ACR by playit just the front just the frontage right it was pretty pretty mild yeah and that's not really an environmental uh Chris to say is it that's not really no okay I don't think this one had any problem I thought it was just a no comment okay I agree yeah okay um so we can just move on to the next one yeah I think so okay great so the next one is uh db24 Das um uh 04 and and that one is this the one that's kind of the more interesting one it says applic existing dwelling into an office uh residence which seems to be the same building uh it's on lot 15 on block 4732 uh right off of um uh old DC Drive um and then lot 16 and 17 are currently vacant um but they want to put a self storage facility on the combined lot um and then I saw on the the report that um uh the uh valga Village zones landscaping and buffering requirements are not addressed and I guess will be in a future site plan submission um so I don't know if we can say anything about that yet but I don't really uh was second s a big is this first of all is this next this is a house next to the church is that right I think it is right next to that church isn't it yeah a house BR I was having trouble picturing that this being a big enough lot to have a storage unit how many storage units two yeah three is it three just three oh is this the one so sorry that's rard going get have only three units yeah that's my thought Susan it's like it's quite small for storage facility at least yeah I mean why would they even need an office yeah I don't know that's a good question but I think they have the with the the actually going it's going onot so maybe they're combining them uh oh yeah because it's it's three lots what are again right is that right yeah the M the yeah the largest lot is vacant where they're floting the buildings they pering the buildings there's three buildings right yeah there are yeah so there it's um and they're all different sizes it looks like one is going to be 3,700 foot and then the middle one's going to be 6 750 and then there's going to be another one uh that is um 5,800 square feet it's in Malaga Village and uh storage units are not permitted there and there's also a note in the the ordinance that says uh that all commercial uses within Mal Village Frontage Del drive or R 40 yeah I mean one could argue this this like old dely drive so it's pretty damn FX but wait a minute they're going to do that's why I couldn't understand without a map they they're going to have three buildings um Al together and they're going to add three buildings is that correct yeah and they're all and so they're only going to have three how can they have only three units I mean three buildings I'm much doesn't show how many units are in each building yeah how many square foot is one they're all varying yeah so let's say on average there's one's 5800 square feet that one's 5800 right yeah so you have two could be as many as 20 20 storage facilities in that one bu yeah yeah the pretty light on detail honestly is that is is Bill there bill yeah yeah is that who was speaking or is there somebody else there no it's Mark oh yeah I'm sorry Mark it's Mark and Jason Mark oh hi Mark I can't see you guys so I you know I'm taking the notes I need to know you're there oh I'm sorry anybody else that I can't see all right oh Roger's here yeah Roger's behind I I did yeah Evan said that okay so there could be a bunch of units all right that makes more sense but still and is it up next to a resident a residence well the exist yes it is yeah the existing house that's there right now is going to be onl 15 that is is going to be turned a little bit into an office it looks like on the drawing here it looks like a you know just a very small thing what I see house oh yeah there's I think there's houses in the back I'm in a neighboring house yeah there's lots of neighboring houses there's no F whatsoever the back of their house line so that would environmental issue would be it would also be environmental because the noise coolage then light all kinds of pollution that's going to come off this facility like people are coming anding and operate and and they don't John he would gladly trade this for he now and so Landscaping shown is that correct also as far as I can see on the planet or whatever I forget it's called already but it doesn't it says that there was no uh plans for landscaping but that it didn't meet like I guess they had to resubmit it or something like that because it seems like it has to be something that needs to be addressed but they didn't give any plans for any that's right I think the engineer letter said that and they need especially in the back and what's the uh rear yard setback or whatever setback there is from these residences residences why I s gu is this 2 okay 24 feet to the building is 50 feet 50 SL buffer yeah there not enough Gren that's say my opinion is are acceptable I think so yeah also a question when do they stop requiring a soils map on the plant they always had a soils map on the plants I think you're what I would say had to reset it but all that well none of the plans we've been say have so maps on them so it sounds like somebody you know the vi it you know that the thats map is normally standard on every single plan we or highlight some of the things the potential issues you know that septic placement uh you know any lighting it will be on site plan fering um just alert the board to anything that we we possibly see is problema not is that what we typically get yeah yeah airport because there no bu yeah people are going to run their cars you know while they're loading and all FL and driving through there and that people are and that no Tre to that potion that noise not I all hour storage places yeah I would think so maybe I don't know it's a good question get a pass or you can just go yeah some up you know if it's not well man is who knows Sports going and what people would even store that one's funny the last one sh so all right um suzan the comment sheet I've never done that before um will you did I send you the blank comment sheet you might have I maybe I just didn't see it or something I'll scan through it if I don't I don't have it I'll send it again just okay all right because I may have forgotten to do that I meant to because I guess what we we should say is um concerns about the rear yard setback being inadequate to protect Neighbors from light and and noise pollution particularly air well how would they it there's really no answer on the plan part and you know are they I would assume that it's going to be pay that right up to that that's that's I looking for they don't identify what the surface is could be St but no matter SE many storage no I mean they're doing that one Inland five years I it's funny they show circulation here but then they don't show it in the back there I'm assuming they're going to have Thor on the back of that building there's no there's no proposed elevations on any of the just the ex and the second comment would to be um oh hi Jeff hello everybody sorry I'm late fine suzan um would it have to be about the Landscaping lack of landscaping all right really I mean that's a requirement in Mala anyway uh but what's this the black of land scoping is there is totally inadequate or and fine they're gonna they're have to put more and send more information in but our concerns our comments should be on this application yeah okay anything else did we want to know something about the uh amount of impervious cover it's not noted well I thought I had I mean they have it on the plan they have it cover says maximum 65 60 we I think buffering biggest issue buffering is big issue also mtic system this is a total change in M we are the lack of landscaping is a major issue along with uh yeah but an office one person yeah okay well it's Bas it doesn't matter how many people are it's all changing would you might want to make that plural buffers because I'm not I'm not seeing the map so I don't know if you're only in the rear or on the side if there against Neighbors on the side as well as the rear I I wasn't sure about that but so are we saying buffers on all sides yeah I think they I think they have to address bu up yeah and like you said it's GNA be lit all night long probably if they want to avoid lawsuits the fence I wonder what they're proposing yeah fence around the entire thing yeah that'll last 20 years like privacy Wonder know High it is I mean aesthetically that would be obviously ugly on the TR looking at pie the stock defense I think there are there are architectural standards that have to be solid yeah I think you're right 14 at the maximum play defense and I don't even know how to Sol it at The Not So In addition to what we've already said maybe you want to highlight the need for a lighting plan is there a lighting plan shown at all how about we just say this plan sucks no information on it we way yes it does lighting plan is uh no lighting plan or lighting plan is needed um detail on fence is needed particularly in the front because of aesthetic concerns you could say it that way it is also I mean they're also seeking a variance because it's two uses on one property right it's yeah that's a different issue but I just wanted to make sure I had that right also when you have a comment sheet when you say no comment you just kind of how does that work you just leave it blank in general or a spot just check there's a box if I can send it to you I might try to send it to you right now okay and then who do you submit it to uh to the Secretary of that board okay so I'll just submit it to Desiree yes because um and she can copy it on behalf of the the board whichever one it is you know now she she give us all the plans or she strictly forening uh she's just zoning yeah and I contacted them and they didn't have me yeah oh my goodness does anybody else have anything to say else about uh 244 hold on a second so that you can't all right I guess we'll move on um we have uh ZB 24-5 next um let's see for that one the applicant wants to construct a uh 412 foot square foot addition to an existing residence also wants a variance for minimum lot Frontage of 100 feet because the existing is only 80 feet uh and it says the just had the lot we already had several buildings on it that's necessary or not but um yeah let me get the M for this one I kind of forget cool they want it to I think there yeah I I could forget this is black they just want to put a little addition on the house yeah my opinion I think I think most of these except for that one seem to be like not really any of our need to identify where the well 377 one and two what the it's uh the mother yeah it is it's like a mother-in-law sweet or something like that all right they're gonna do a separate that's yeah but if it's already what is the existing bedroom cell there's a range like it it's not like if you go from a three-bedroom to a four bedroom you automatically need up yes you do for what if it's an increase of blow accting they might eliminating a b as not a separate so I'm sorry I didn't know what personally I don't think this one is a big issue except for the the buildings that are in the um on Fourth Avenue that are actually on what they're saying is Township property are they talking about right away they're they're asking for addition onto their home yeah I know in the back but um that I don't think is and they that belong to the township is that well it looks like their driveway might be within a paper all paper Street or something well Fourth Avenue is Fourth Avenue I think exists I'm not sure about that but yeah well I can't I don't think so because they got they got a bunch of building structures on it well maybe it does yeah you right be might you might be right it might just be a paper Street it probably is that's probably true um I don't think that's an environmental issue they're going to have to deal with that though but frankly all those lots are very small in that neighborhood and they actually have a fair amount of land it's just not their house it's just too close to the the Fourth Avenue whatever whether that's a paper Street or not so they don't have the setback that they need and they don't have the frontage I guess right well it's not it's noted on the map how far it is from fourth but it doesn't look that far scale looks like 10 feet I think it's I think it says that somewhere that it's very small um the so but I mean the addition is not going on that side the addition is going on the opposite side yeah so so it's not really a problem the house 42 so it's 50% more than house but they say they keeping they're still only going to have two bedrooms I don't know what they're going to do with the addition but they're not adding bedrooms yeah what yeah you don't have well that's something we would there no that's something that should being done anyway if you're adding 100 or more they're required by DC State Bulls to get something from the county that says that you're system is adequate or that you need a new so if town hall is doing their job they should be addressing it before they're issued any kind of building per at all they need something from the coun all right so what was our so we not going to comment then on the subject because I think we need to know I think they need to be careful that where is the well it is in yeah the well could be right here and they can't be under the from the Edition being that this is probably really old house anywhere could be should I put that in the comments yeah to show where the well spray just yeah what what is that comment well location not provided kind of just like a a heads up yeah and otherwise and that's it right same B can you hear par probably yeah yeah yeah okay all right anybody else have anything else they want to add about 05 okay we'll move on to zb4 uh9 applicant wants to build a single family home on a smaller than requ ired lot the lot in question is uh 1.42 uh versus the required 1.5 acres and non-conforming 130 foot Frontage which uh when um 150 is required uh to their seeking new variant and that is block um 202 lot 22.01 and least see if I can get does this one show the well and and septic let me see this is a brand brand new construction nothing now yeah I think this behind the PO yeah right well in the front actually okay have pool house isn't this in the group of houses just below Ho's yeah yeah there like row of or not you know there's a bunch of houses that that start up from his place on yeah this between his the r blackw comes out I looked it [Music] down here I think I the the map I think and away which w r area yeah yeah Scotland r Road I had that one right the street is pretty far that's yeah it is was yeah bathroom in the CLE room so they're going to dose it us they do going to be expensive they get a dry well where's their actual well well M what's the dryw for that's like the drw is for your GS manag GS yeah usually house but your drinking water well has to be at least this sted from the dryw I don't see it on there not on there and you've got Tes there yeah I that'll be the best place to put it all way way uh otherwise gonna have any comment about comment she conru you know see reviews it look at all that okay okay SE okay sorry you're good you wanna you can take it away if you want to look at it okay do all the CL it seemed like the size of the lot was similar to the ones on either side I didn't really see a problem and it's close to meeting the you know the requirements for acreage so sub so am I read this right they do they have two proposed areas for the sub things or they had two separate there's a field bed here and they pump this bathroom these lines here the whole yeah but they have a separate tank for that they have to separate the liquids from the liquids done so what's the comment on this one no comment just at the well where is the well yeah just ask okay okay we'll move on um so the next order business is just back to the old business um the first one I have on here I just kept it the same as the last agenda just Piney Hollow and the Green Acres Grant update I don't know if there's uh okay Mark you know what's going on wait is Barbara talking I heard she is yeah okay I'll get okay ly Hollow uh they accepted one of the bids I believe and it's under bid actually yeah what does it mean it's under bid well 100,000 for the grant oh yeah yeah so they got it they got a bid that they're going to accept or they are accepting I don't know if you have to vote on that or attach meeting or not yeah I men I didn't see it on the agenda but yeah put it but from what I understand they're you know ready to go with this bit it's not well within the ballpark of what we wanted to expect do we have any schedule for from it um I don't have a schedule I know they had to get Green Acres a construction schedule so if I go tomorrow night I'll more yeah look very nevery Jack please I was told in my last meeting that you couldn't really hear that much um from my side but I don't know about that that was pretty loud hear you well okay um and what about the cleanup the cleanups that need to be done and those things that what Earth and I thought we were going to need the clean up in the fall do you mean the clean you mean something a clean up for Piney holl from alake Park py hell py hell okay I think Public Works is supposed to provide some help with that but I think they need to clarify that further so you can ask about that too because as far as we know it hasn't been done yet correct uh as far as we know I don't think anyone's been out there in a while I haven't visited the paring fight yeah we used to rely on John to get out there for us all the time yeah he like to go there for Hing and I'm gonna um oh you're on mute again I think I know when I go on I do it on purpose oh okay I saw you talking still so I didn't know if you okay I wasn't I wasn't talking okay um anyway so yeah I thought I would uh try to go to Piney Hollow in val the lake to you know maybe like a once a month kind of a thing just to take over for John and just so I can give updates on that I was actually gonna go to malal Lake today but I never got there um so I went out on the lake on the boat at the at B's house but um we never got over of the park so um but but yeah so Baga Lake it's the park itself um I know that we still have to do the uh the sign Replacements and I know we were thinking about doing we were discussing doing the um uh the the cleanup in April but now we're going to probably move it to the fall I contacted the Girl Scouts and um uh it took them like you know three weeks or something like that to get back to me and so I just kind of was like all right well they're not going to get back it's fine um because a lot it was just John me I think W was there Mindy yeah it was honestly just like four or five people I think we had recruited like two people who were just walking the trail and it was I mean we cleared l so I we can do it with a small amount of people but I mean it would be fine to have extra hands so I did contact the Girl Scouts um and uh I wrot to Suzanne that they never got back to me and then like literally like three minutes later they got back to me um but then they said oh you better attack the sumet county Girl Scouts and I'm like don't so they think we live in Franklin South suet County so I'm I'm I RI back to them and I just say well we live in laer County but they haven't gone back to me yet again so um I'll just kind of but anyway we're gonna probably just do it in the fall I think uh because now if we want to put word out it's thought that' be until you know May and I don't know it just feels like feels too short of a notice so I was thinking maybe September M October before it gets too cold maybe October would be nice when it's like a not as hot day or something like that early October right get yeah okay so that's something they um I can't get touch with them anyway I I got I got in touch with the office and uh and the representatives got back to me was twice that was it looks like there's no war Ambassador count I also reached out to John because um Suzanne said did you reach out to John about the watered and I forgot completely because I reached out to him a couple other things but forgot about the water shed Ambassador so I reached out to him again and I haven't heard back from him again yet so if not we I'll just keep pestering him a little bit um I did get he did reply to me before so um maybe I'll just hear back from him soon if I keep you know we can ask um the uh the Watershed Ambassador for Area 18 is named I think it's May young um and she's great and we're about to try to hire her at the South Jersey land and water trust she's Area 18 which encompasses a lot of Gloucester but not our area because the The Watershed ambassador program is me set up to match watersheds and we're Franklin is in watershed area 17 so I don't know who that is yet either um and if not by the Fall there'll be a new one they come on in the fall and they go through different training but they're available so we can by October we we'll certainly know who area 17's Watershed Ambassador is they usually fill all positions but it can be difficult to find out but I can ask them to ask may I think it's May okay either her name is yay it's ends in eh I just can't remember whether it's May or yay um and uh uh she works with now she works with Michael Hogan a lot and we're going to pull her bring her on to do some other work for us so um he loves she's been a watered Ambassador for two years so she'll be be good um we could probably pull her into this but that's not really her area and they're coming towards the end what we need to do is set a date for the putting in new posts in May and um the only thing I was gonna do ask you did you did those posts look like they would work out for you they s here did you send them to me is you I text text message with picture you did okay I'll look for it because I'm afterward I just a t again um but yeah so you guys didn't have to purchase like I said I have a whole bunch s back what I'm having trouble hearing you Mark I'm sorry I said if if you think they're good enough for what you want to do you can have them they're just sitting in my backyard but right right I just offer I don't remember seeing the text message however I'll go through it I'll send it again I I know I stopped the picture of my phone so did did you send it to the AOL account well no was it was a it was to your I'm assuming it was to your cell phone maybe I sent it to the wrong one though oh of course got to listen text message so it should have been yes I should have seen that well I might have sent it to the wrong person if so I'll I'll I'll send it again tonight Mar thank you because I I don't remembered it all and although I have trouble keeping up with all of it I usually look at everything so um that would be good so I think we should just sort of arbitrarily pick a a time to do that anybody have any preference like the for the Post digging or the the replacing yeah like like the week of May 13th or something I mean a weekday could be would work we don't have to do it on a satday that's I'm I'm the that I think what is that that uh that Mother's Day week right that's fine oh Mother's Day is the 12th I guess right oh probably yeah yeah uhuh yeah that it's the week following Mother's Day I mean we could just pick a date or do you want to do it on a Saturday so anybody who's available can come out that's fine I mean I can imagine it's going to take you said how many yeah I wanted to ask Ward to help us because you got the tools and uh but and I assume a weekday you know 11 am 10: am would be good yeah that's why I mean if if um if you want to ask Ward and and uh see what day he's available and if he needs help I can probably make something you know I can I can come out and help him yeah we we have to because he isn't going to know exactly what we want and the um okay let's let's pick um Tuesday the 14th how's that sure yeah so it would just how um is is for right I don't know we one of us needs to go there and walk it you if you were going to go over and walk it maybe you could document which ones we're missing because we also need to buy the numbers to put on the top of them you know their numbers like you I'll go I'll go this week sometime okay great because that way we'll know and I'll go this week sometime and I'll do some research okay and I'll ask him if that date works okay I'll just send the notice to everybody on the commission and anybody who wants to go out there can that sounds good okay all right perfect um bird Quest yeah so the other thing I I just have other plans for old business and one of them is bird Quest I don't know what I I I I reached out to John about bird Quest and I'm not sure if he's going or not I'm not sure so but we did research on it and we still have a couple more days to sign up if anyone was interested online there's no papered you have to go online and sign up we can sign up until when I think it was like the 28th yeah 28th of April what is it may John never told you no no he never I I asked him twice about burquest he responded about other things but it's not about burquest yeah I he may not necessarily want to be the only person who goes out there um yeah he he's just always done it so uh and I had thought of calling Joe Arsenal and making majority of it on his back porch which is really a nice place to sit and do biring because he gets a lot of good birds birds isn't it and we usually walk Malaga Trail actually that's what we do that and Joe's house would be the two things that we always try to do yeah sometimes we end would end up at Scotland Run Park um because that you can pick up u a few things there that you don't necessarily see anywhere else but uh well Brown Thrashers we always get brown Thrashers in Scotland Run Park but anyway is it did anybody want to go out who's there sitting there I'm not going to go no didn't expect you guys to go I'm thinking about it I love I have no plans to go right now okay all right I I'll I will try to I'll try to find out if John's gonna go I'll bug him again okay you know okay yeah and ask him when you if you if you contact him um we never got the uh what do you call it the the cleanup supplies for the not that I'm in a hurry to get them because we don't do it until the fall but um he never responded about that part as well so okay I I just told him anytime you want to meet me at theist building um so yeah if you can get in contact with him and and uh okay let him know just to write back to me anytime he wants it's fine okay it's for him to get there because of Main Road being blocked off right now but so I have to drive around unfortunately but um I'm willing to meet him whenever he has time so and where's main blocked off we the winner rout 40 and Main Road um are are uh they're they're doing construction there so he had he lives on the other side of Main Road and I live on this side and we're GNA meet at the old but to get there he's gonna have to drive all way around it's just not a big deal but it's just a because the intersection is blocked is that it oh really yeah local track yeah local track my dad loves about go okay well at the moment I say I cut through the old wa yeah yeah if you one side sure yeah okay that's TR um anybody giv any he's talking where you are I've beeny you're not supposed toless it's local traffic you live there but I mean the is right there there yeah you have y okay um great so under new business I put on there um a mailbox for the environmental Commission because I didn't want to forget to bring it up I was like I know I'll forget I reached out to Barb um I haven't heard anything yet I was just curious bark do you do you have tomorrow night that's great okay it just we just wanted a mailbox uh if possible you want Center uh I really know I mean does everybody I no I have a mattress all going we know like say in the other building yeah go ahead you're stuff in there we go that's why I don't have one I'll ask it's like a like aelf thing on the left when you walk it there a table like this the shelves on the left and that's where the yeah or like the engineer would have a b we would have a b other about um I was wondering if uh I haven't brought it up my the meeting smart ween years what I'm sorry what are we talking about talking about Frank cahoot and um GI Giovani yeah oh you right repres playing yeah so we got we have no nobody on the plan board to say any really I I have their names down last you could ask Ralph but I don't know if he'll want to do it it's our community we all we should be represented Ral Ralph TR is on the uh planning board he could be asked if he'd be willing to be on the commission I don't know if he'll want to do that because he's already you know involved in a lot of stuff I don't know if that would affect his membership like I think the environmental commission is a second class member and Ralph may not want a oneyear membership is that is that the case yes yeah so he's not going to want to give up his security of being on the board one ter well I don't know why that would be the case because after all Jay munier was the chair of the planning board and he sat on the environmental commission for years it would be three years I don't think you have to be a class such and such member to be on the environmental commission I think it's the other way around that there needs to be a commission member on the planning board and if there isn't they might might end up being in that class but otherwise I'm not sure that's the case yeah you're saying you're saying add Rous to the board not replace cahoot with Ralph that you're suggesting no I'm suggesting replacement yeah there's only one member that that comes in through the um environmental commission I don't know if it's a class three or whatever so I don't think it that I don't think it would change his class I you know I don't that matters yeah it would it would because there's certain classes of members on the board one of them is the Environmental commission so class two yeah at least that's the way the is run well then how was a Jay able to be um a class one uh on the planning board anybody they elect their own chairman anybody Frank who could be the chairman that well he certainly was a class one member he was on the planning board for years yeah I I'd have to look up the municipal a law to see which classes are which but um sure you're yeah it's a specific class but like there's nothing that would prevent Rous from also being on the environmental commission yeah I don't think there is I don't think it says that I don't think it says say that if you are that in order to be on the the environmental commission you must be a class such and such and I don't think it says that anywhere but anyway no no no in order to be on the planning board you to be that certain class you have to be a member of the environmental commission the the other way around than what you said that's yeah okay environmental commission is allowed to have one member of the commission on the planning board that's right right white wall oh I understand he's suppos are not attending planning board meetings is that right no comment on that okay I don't know I think he was he was at the solar one yeah yeah I understood he only start up for the solar one okay the we're close fing to shut up to that and that set up this time as well so I mean I don't know the guy at all so I don't understand anything about so no no I just he you know if he's attending planning board meetings that's good um yeah but do that he may not really have the time to be on the environmental commission so okay well I don't know what we can do about it right now who else is are liaison uh besides mark second wasn't the practice of enir mission that if people don't show up that you would send them a letter and ask them to if they would please resign so that that's basic F by some you can do that can do that know those people I don't know that it's written anywhere well just a policy we used to do it I mean it's like only reasonable yeah come on and you know they they would voluntarily resign because they haven't shown up I they try to put it nicely but well that's not the issue I don't think that's really the issue so much as I mean it could be but um as we need a leaz on with the planning board we need somebody on the environmental commission who's also on the planning board and who can bring the environmental commission's thoughts or point of view or whatever to the planning board when it's needed so that's really the issue is finding that person and getting that person to be on the planning board and that requires an appointment to the planning board probably unless Ralph could be the one who does it and that's somebody who has to be willing to be on both monthly meetings which is you know ask we already have that that's who what Frank ho is not but he doesn't come but he doesn't participate in the environmental commission at all that's what well well yeah maybe that's what I'm confused Barbara said it's a an attendance problem and you said it's not an attendant problem that we just need to representative I was confused by that I apologize well she's talking about asking somebody to resign and I'm saying it doesn't M much matter if we can't you know it'd be nice to get somebody who was active but more importantly is to get somebody who can who's also on the planning board that's all stay well if he resigned from the environmental commission he would know he would have to go off the seat on the flighty board oh he would yeah yeah that's why yeah that's why he's that's why he's there yeah oh I see right voted on committee was asked in December to uh find somebody who would uh be in that seat and nothing happened and I don't know whether it's because nobody was willing or what but I'm not sure that we can address it four ourselves oh that's what the want what I'm sorry sorry we're having two separate they're talking about it was it the solar field what it was yeah they're coming back because they got preliminary have come back and get f for which one for which solar field the one on fries oh okay yeah yeah that's gonna go ahead assume presumably okay yeah I mean um the the other piece of your business is is to just start thinking about the community day even though it's early I mean as to who's gon to actually work on and what we want to do yeah well whatever we were GNA do last we did the same thing that remember yeah we never got to do it could we just do that I for what was actually yeah well John was John was going to bring stuff so I'll ask about that as well I'll call on and try to I'll keep bugging him until I get him because we need to know if we can just use what we were going to do last year that would be simple okay okay yeah do you know what dat this year it's I'm sure sorry like you'll have to say it again Evan because it breaks up sometimes oh um do you know what day Community Day is this year gonna be like 21st of September or something yeah I think it um right I think it's the 20 oh I think it's the 22nd but I'm not sure okay let me see if I can find that out right with you talk about got yeah he came Zing board got approval put in front of the house I guess yeah like I guess the front within the front yard right the street houses yeah you got that first I don't see it on here I can always look later too you're looking for it yeah my internet's really slow right now oh here we go I don't know what it would be under again yeah that yeah I don't remember specific though well that's okay um it's taking forever uh I guess we can is there any other new business any want up um so I guess we can move on I didn't get any mail or anything like that uh so yeah there's no mail so I guess we can if if everybody sounds if it's SS good to everybody can web to uh German um yeah should uh anybody want to make a motion motion and Margaret makes a motion Second Jason seconds all in favor say I forg favorite and also um Community Day is on the 21st 20 yes oh 21st of course yes not the 2 this all Sunday okay yeah hi one second yeah sure shry what sorry just real quick I was talking you know that evening I meeting and we also have our master plan committee meeting same evening I'll get there as soon as I can okay um I just want to give know fine I S an email restling but my meeting starts at 6 but probably ofely so I don't know how long you guys are playing on for but make well I like to keep it to seven to nine but we'll see with you know because we need to finish well if that's the case sounds we'll have at least one more right I don't think you're going to get warehous probably take upj I know I don't know for get through all of it for sure yeah but I think all right if I can make it I will if not sorry okay all right well and if you have thoughts on on it that you wna send yeah okay all right great thanks J thank you um what did you guys just stop the recording yeah no what did you just pass a resolution on but right now did you just pass I still hear I'm sorry oh yeah toj the meeting oh okay so the time is what 8 oh yeah sorry it's uh 8:39 thank you I'm not used to this stuff wait who motion and who seconded that who motioned and who second maret and Jason I've been work to e