all right so the first order business is the minutes um would anybody like to make a motion to approve the minutes okay Margaret makes a motion anybody want a second okay go seconds it all in favor I I because he wasn't there yeah yeah okay um all right so uh second thing is yes we have Barbara Halper and and Roger dur I forgot you're not actually a member the and and I guess it's because I know that Mindy said she wasn't gonna be here uh and so far it looks like we're the only one here as far as I can tell yeah that's it okay um Jeff they come on right uh yeah I haven't heard anything from him maybe yeah so um okay um so it's usually uh we usually ask if uh oh Suzanne do you happen to have the um uh Wi-Fi password for the township um I think so let me look I'm using my my hot spot right now I just just uh I just wanted to see if I could transfer on you have it I'm not sure if I do I keep I have maybe let me see um that's commanding Franklin Township internet password well what it was ft WP as in Franklin Township WP whatever that stands for one two three one two three four two three four okay is that all caps or lower cases it the fwp I have in caps okay but I don't know if I don't know if that I guess that's what it is it's in caps okay um okay I'll give it a go right now I'm just on my Wi-Fi hotspot and it's just working great so I'm just gonna I'm just gonna keep it as is just don't change anything if it's exactly yeah but for next time I'll give it a go unless it gives me now but um would it did any of our guests W to say anything before we get started or anything all right uh Emergency Management hazardous waste I don't see anything there so guess we'll go on to the zoning and planning board applications well um so the first one I have listed is the ZB 24- let me see here that one was um a single family home on Clearfield Avenue on a vacant lot they seeking variance for minimum Frontage uh lot is non-conforming is a non-conforming 13 30.9 ft uh and doesn't meet that 150 foot um and it's located in a residential agricultural Zone I just have that as a a summary um and let me see if I can bring up the M wait right here we have the Z oh okay [Applause] okay so okay so I didn't really see not that I'm very good at like knowing what's going on sometimes here because you know even though I've been a member for a while I'm not I don't have the knowledge that some people do but I didn't really see any like Wetlands or anything like that on there so I don't know if we have anything to say about that um did you get the map for this one yes and and I don't remember seeing Maps but um this seemed to be a pretty innocuous one it's just uh they're just short aren't they of making the no yeah it's it's yeah you know they they don't have quite the AG on one side or something and they don't have quite the acreage isn't that the one like that acores are over on the ACR by quite bit just the front just the frontage right it was pretty pretty pretty mild yeah and that's not really an environmental uh commission to say is it that's not really no okay I didn't think this one had any problem I thought it was just a no comment I agree yeah okay um so we can just move on to the next one yeah I think so okay great so the next one is uh zb2 24- um 04 and that one is this the one that's kind of the more interesting one it says appli existing dwelling into it office uh residence which seems to be the same building uh it's on lot 15 on block 4732 uh right off of um uh old DC Drive um and then lot 16 and 17 are currently vacant um but they want to put a self storage facility on the combined lot um and then I saw on the the report that um uh the uh valga Village zones landscaping and buffering requirements are not addressed and I guess will be in a future site plan submission um so I don't know if we can say anything about that yet but I don't really uh how big is this first of all is this next this is a house next to the church is that right I think it is next to that church isn't it yeah a house next I was having trouble picturing that this being a big enough lot to have a storage unit how many storage units no yeah three is it three just three oh is this the one so sorry that's R let let me get that the going to have only three units yeah that's my thought Susan it's like it's quite small for storage facility at least yeah I mean why would they even need an office yeah I don't know that's a good question but I think they have the actually going going uh so maybe they're combining them uh oh yeah because it's it's three lots what are again right is that right yeah the M the yeah the largest lot is vacant where they're floating the buildings or pering the buildings there's three buildings right yeah there are yeah so there it's um and they're all different sizes it looks like one is going to be 3,700 square foot and then the middle one's going to be 6,750 and then there's going to be another one uh that is um 5,800 square feet it's Malaga Village and uh storage units are not permitted there and there's also a note in the the ordinance that says uh that all commercial uses within malag Village Frontage on dely drive or R 40 yeah I mean one could argue this is like old dely dve so it's pretty damn click but but wait a minute they're going to do that's why I couldn't understand without a map they they're going to have three buildings um all together and they're going to add three buildings is that correct yeah and they're all and so they're only going to have three how can they have only three units I mean three buildings I'm much doesn't show how many units are in each building yeah how many square foot is each one they're all varying yeah so let's say on average there's one 5800 square feet that one 5800 right yeah so I mean you have two be many 20 20 storage so he in that one yeah yeah's pretty ly on detail honestly is that is is Bill there bill yeah yeah is that who was speaking or is there somebody else there no it's Mark oh yeah I'm sorry Mark it's Mark and Jason's Mark oh hi Mark I can't see you guys so I you know I'm taking the notes I need to know you're there oh I'm sorry anybody else then I can't see all right oh Roger's here yeah Roger's behind I I did yeah said that okay so there could be a bunch of units all right that makes more sense but still and is it up next to a resident a residence well the exist yes it is yeah the existing house that's there right now is going to be on 15 that is is going to be turned a little bit into an office it looks like on the drawing here it looks like a you know just a very small thing what uh I see there a house here oh yeah there's I think there's houses back I'm in a neighboring house yeah there's lots of neighborhood houses there's no whatsoever that's not the back of their house that environmental issue it would also be environmental because the noise pollu light pollution all kinds of pollution that's going to come off this facility like people are coming in and operate and and they don't well he he would gladly trade this for what he Liv now and Landscaping shown is that correct also as far as I can see on the planet or whatever I forget what it's called already but it doesn't it says that there was no uh plans for landscaping but that it didn't meet like I guess they had to resubmit it or something like that because it seems like it has to be something that needs to be addressed but they didn't give any plans for any that's right I think the engineers letter said that they need especially in the back and what's the uh rear yard setback or whatever setback there is from these residences residences why yeah I need is this the 24 feet to the building 50 50 SL buffer yeah there not enough grenade that's say my opinion is acceptable I think so yeah also a question when did they stop requiring a soils map on the plant they always had a so map on the plans I think you're I would say had a reset all that well none of the plans we've been saying have soil maps on them so it sounds like you know the it you know that that so map is normally standard on every single plan we highlight some of the thing the potential issues you have that Val septic placement uh you know any lighting it will be on site plan fering um just alert the board to anything that we we possibly see problematic is that what we typically get yeah like airport por because there's no buffer yeah all people going to run their cars you know while they're loading and uploading and driving through there and the people are and there no trees to thatll not nothing this I think all hour storage places yeah I would think so maybe I don't know that's a good question get it pass or you can just go yeah some up you know if it's not well man is who knows Sports and what people would even store no regulations say something POS us or something to qu that one's funny the last one she didn't all right comment um suzan the comment sheet I've never done that before um will you did I send you the blank comment sheet you might have maybe I just didn't see it or or something I'll scan through it if I don't I don't have it I'll send it again just okay all right because I may have forgotten to do that I meant to because I guess what we we should say is um concerns about the rear yard setback being inadequate to protect Neighbors from light and and noise pollution particularly well how would they there's really no answer on the pl for and you know are they I would assume that it's going to be pay that right up to that that's that's I look for they don't identify what this surface is could be St but no matter what to see many storage sell no I mean doing that one Inland five years say this it's funny they show circulation here but then they don't show it in the back there I'm assuming they're G to have Thor on the back of that building there's no there's no those elevations on any of and then the second comment Evan would have to be um oh hi Jeff hello everybody sorry I'm late fine suan um would it have to be about the Landscaping lack of landscaping all right really I mean that's a requirement in Malika anyway uh what's this the lack of landscaping is not bad is totally inadequate or and fine they're gonna they're gonna have to put more send more information in but our concerns our comments should be on this application yeah okay anything else did we want to know something about the uh amount of impervious cover it's not noted well I thought it had it I mean they have it on the plan they have it cover it says maximum 65 60 we I think buffering is biggest issue buffering is a big issue we also need a septic system this is a total change in a t lack of landscaping is a major issue along with h an office one person yeah okay well it's Bas it doesn't matter how it's all changing it's you might want to makes that plural buffers because I'm not I'm not seeing the map so I don't know if you're only in the rear or on the side or if there against Neighbors on the side as well as the rear I I wasn't sure about that but so are we saying buffers on all sides yeah I think they I think they have to address yeah and like you said it's going to be lit all night long probably if they want to avoid lawsuits the fence I wonder what they're purposing yeah fence around the entire thing yeah that'll last 20 years privacy F High I mean aesthetically that would be obviously ugly on the tront looking at P the stock defense I think there are there are architectural standards that have to be Sol yeah I think you're right for need at the maximum Play Def fense and I don't even know how to Sol it at on The Not So In addition to what we've already said maybe you want to highlight the need for a lighting plan is there a lighting plan shown at all how about we just say this plan sucks no information on it we yes it does lighting plan is uh no lighting plan or lighting plan is needed um detail on fence is needed particularly in the front because of aesthetic concerns you could say it that way it is also I mean they're also seeking a variance because it's two uses on one property right there yeah that's a different issue but I just wanted to make sure I had that right also when you have a comment sheet when you say no comment you just kind of how does that work you just leave it blank in general or spot check there's a box if I can send it to you I might try to send it to you right now okay and then who do you submit it to um to the Secretary of that board okay so I'll just submit it to Desiree yes because um she can copy it on the half of the the board whichever one it is you know now she she give us all the plans or she strictly for zoning uh she's just zoning yeah and I contacted them and they didn't have any yeah oh my goodness all right does anybody else have anything to say else about uh 244 hold on second so you can't all right I guess we'll move on um we have uh ZB 24-5 next um let's see for that one the applicant wants to construct a uh 42t square foot addition to an existing residence also wants a variance for minimum lot Frontage of 100 feet because the existing is only 80 feet uh and it says the also just said the lot we already had several buildings on it I that's necessary or not but um yeah let me get the M for this one I kind of forget cool they wanted they wanted to I think there yeah I I kind forget this is black they just want to put a little addition on the yeah I think I think most of these except for that one seem to be like not really any of our yeah they need to identify where the well 3707 ands one and two what it's uh the mother yes it is it's like a mother-in-law sweet or something like that all right they're gonna do a separate that's that's all yeah but if it's already what is the existing bedroom cell there's a range like it it's not like if you go from a three-bedroom to a four bedroom you automatically need a up yes you do for what it's an increase in flating they might eliminated get b b might be as long not a separate vol so I'm sorry I didn't know what personally I don't think this one is a big issue except for the the buildings that are in the um on Fourth Avenue that are actually on what they're saying is Township property are they talking about right away they're they're asking for addition onto their home yeah I know in the back but um that I don't think is an isue and they now that was belong to the township isn't that was well it looks like their driveway might be within a paper all paper Street or something well Fourth Avenue is Fourth Avenue I think exists I I'm not sure about that but yeah well I don't think so because they got they got a bunch of building structures on it well maybe it does yeah you right be might you might be right it might just be a paper Street it probably is that's probably true um I don't think that's an environmental issue they're going to have to deal with that though but frankly all those lots are very small in that neighborhood and they actually have a fair amount of land it's just not their house it's just too close to the the Fourth Avenue whatever whether that's a paper Street or not so they don't have the setback that they need and they don't have the frontage I guess right well it's not it's not on the map how far it is from Forest but it doesn't look that far scale looks like 10et I think it's like I think it says that somewhere but it's very small um the so I mean the addition is not going on that side the addition is G yeah so so it's not really a problem ruin the house they 4 so it's 50% more than house but they say they're keeping they're still only going to have two bedrooms I don't know what they're going to do with the addition but they're not adding bedrooms yeah Grandma the rest all right yeah they don't have well that's something we would there no that's something that should be done anyway if you're adding 100 feet or more you're required by DC St Bulls to get something from the county that says that your system is adequate or that you need a new system so if town hall is doing their job they should be addressing it before they're issued any kind of building fromit at all and need something from the C all right so what was our so we not going to comment then on the subject because I think we need to know I think they need to be careful that where is the well which is in s Yeah Yeahs could be right here and they can't be the Edition being that this is probably a really old house you know anywhere put that in the comments yeah to show where the well spray just what what is that comment well location not provided kind of just like a a heads up yeah and otherwise and that's it right cling the same number of b as as I can you hear par probably not yeah yeah all right anybody else have anything else they want to add about 05 okay we move on to ZB 24-9 app get want to build a single family home l a smaller than required lot the lot in question is uh 1 Point 42 uh versus the required 1.5 acres and non-conforming 130 foot Frontage which uh when um 150 is required uh so they're seeking new variance and that is block um 202 lot 22.01 and at least see I can get does this one show the well and and septic let me see this is a brand brand new construction nothing hour yeah I think it's behind the pool yeah right well in the front actually okay they have pool house yeah isn't this in the group of haard just below Ho's yeah yeah there's like a a little row of or not you know there's a bunch of houses that that start up from his place on yeah let this between his the red black ass comes out I looked it [Music] that here think I the maps I don't think and W be well the Run area yeah yeah Scotland Road I had that one right the street OT is pretty far that's yeah it is it's waste that and on the so there's a yeah bathroom andal room so they're going to dose it us and like they still going to be expensive they get a dry well where's their actual well well M what's the drrive well for that's like the dryw is for your guts yeah but your drinking water well has to be at least justed from the dry well I don't see it on there and you've got T there you know I where that'll be the best place to put it all the way FR all the way up uh otherwise they G to have comment comment she instru you know see reviews it look at all that okay okay sorry you're good you want to you can take it away if you want to look at okay all it seemed like the size of the lot was similar to the ones on either side I didn't really see a problem and it's close to meeting the M you know the minimal requirements for acreage so subdivide law CL so am I reading this right that they do they have two proposed areas for the sub things or they have two separate subjects there's a field bed here and they're going to pump this bathroom see all these lines here the whole lock they have a separate tank for that Capac they they have to separate the liquids from the solid the liquids so what's the comment on this one no com no comment just that the well where is the well yeah just ask done okay okay we'll move on um so the next order business and just back to the old business um uh the first one I have on here just kept it the same as the last agenda just Piney Hollow and the Green Acres Grant update I don't know if there's uh there is there okay Mar you know what's going on wait is Barbara talking she is yeah okay I'll get okay ly Hollow uh they accepted one of the beds I believe and it's under bid actually yeah St what does it mean it's under bid well L 100,000 for the grant oh yeah yeah now they got it they got a bid that they're going to accept or they are accepting I don't know if you have to vote on that attach meeting or not yeah I men I didn't see it on the agenda but see put but from what I understand they're yeah ready to go with this bit that's not well within the ballpark of what we wanted to SP do we have any schedule for from it um I don't have a schedule I know they had to get Green Acres a construction schedule so if I go tomorrow night I'll more for yeah look Prett Jack please very so I was told in my last meeting that you couldn't really hear that much um from my side but I don't know about that that was pretty loud hear you well okay um and what about the cleanup the cleanups that need to be done and those things that we what Earth H and I thought we were going to need the clean up in the fall do you mean the clean you mean something a clean up for Piney Hollow or from malal Lake Park Piney Hollow Piney Hollow okay I think Public Works is supposed to provide some help with that but I think they need to clarify that further so you can ask about that too because as far as we know it hasn't been done yet correct uh as far as we know I don't think anyone's been out there in a while I haven't visited the paring quite some time yeah we used to rely on John to get out there for us all the time yeah he like to go there for biring and I'm gonna um you're on mute again I think I know when I go on I do it on purpose oh okay I saw you talking still so I didn't know if you're okay I wasn't I wasn't until kid okay um anyway so yeah I thought I would uh try to go to Piney Hollow in M the lake to you know maybe like a once a month kind of a thing just take her for John and just so I can give updates on that I was actually going to go to malga Lake today but I never got there um So Co I went out on the lake on the boat at the at B's house but um we never got over to the park so um but yeah so Malaga Lake it's the park itself um I know that we still have to do the uh the sign Replacements and I know we were thinking about doing we were discussing doing the um uh the the cleanup in April but now we're going to probably move it to the fall I contacted the Girl Scouts and um uh it took them like you know three weeks or something like that to get back to me and so I just kind of was like all right well they're not gonna get back it's fine um because the last time it was just John me I think where was there m yeah it was honestly just like four or five people I think we had recruited like two people who were just walking the trail and it was I mean we clear up l so I we can do it with a small amount of people but I mean it would be fine to have extra hands so I did contact the Girl Scouts um and uh I wrot to Suzanne that they never got back to me and then like literally like three minutes later they got back to me um but then they said oh you better contact the sumerset Cy Girl Scouts and I'm like we don't so they think we live in Frankin out to Su County so I'm I'm I RI back to them and I just say well we live in gler but they haven't gone back to me yet again so um I'll just kind of but anyway we're g to probably just do it in the fall I think uh because now if we want to put word out it's it be until you know May and I know it just feels like feels too short of a notice so I was thinking maybe September October before it gets too cold maybe October would be nice when it's like a not as hot day or something like that early October get I yeah okay so well that's something they um I can't get in touch with them anyway I I got I got in touch with the office and uh and never got back twice that it looks like there's no words that ambassador cler count I also reached out to John because um Suzanne said did you reach out to John about the water C and I forgot completely because I reached out to him a couple other things but forgot about the water sh faster so I reached out to him again and I haven't heard back from him again yet so if not maybe I'll just keep pestering him a little bit um I did get he did reply to me before so um maybe I'll just hear back from them soon if I keep you know we can ask um the uh watered Ambassador for Area 18 is named I think it's May young um and she's great and we're about to try to hire her at the South Jersey land and water trust she's Area 18 which encompasses a lot of Gloucester but not our area because the the water ambassador program is met set up to match watersheds and we're Franklin is in watershed area 7 so I don't know who that is yet either um and if not by the Fall there'll be a new one they come on in the fall and they go through different training but they're available so we can by October we we'll certainly know who area 17 mershed Ambassador is they usually fill all the positions but it can be difficult to find out but I can ask them to ask may I think it's May okay either her name is yay it's ends in eh I just can't remember whether it's May or yay um and uh uh she works with now she works with Michael Hogan a lot and we're GNA pull her bring her on to do some other work for us so um he loves her she's been a watershed Ambassador for two years so she'll be be good um we could probably pull her into this but it's not really her area and coming towards the end what we need to do is set a date for the putting in new posts in May and um the only thing I was gonna do ask you did you did those posts look like they would work out for you they sent you did you send them to me you you I text I text message for picture you did okay I'll look for it because I'm surprised I after I again um but yeah so you guys didn't have to purchase like I said I have a whole bunch sit backyard what I'm having trouble hearing you Mark I'm sorry I said if if you think they're good enough for what you want to do you can have them they're just sitting in my backyard but right right I just offer I don't remember seeing the text message however I'll go through it I'll send it again I I know I sto the picture my so did did you send it to the AOL account well no it was a it was to your I'm assuming it was to your cell phone maybe I sent it to the wrong one though oh of course got to listen text message so it should have been yes I should have seen that I might have S it to the wrong person if so I'll I'll I'll send it again tonight or tomorrow thank you because I I don't remembered it all and although I have trouble keeping up with all of it I usually look at all everything so um that would be good so I think we should just sort of arbitrarily pick a a time to do that anybody have any preference I like for the Post digging or the the replacing yeah like like the week of May 13th or something I mean a weekday could be would work we don't have to do it on a mod day that's I'm I'm the that I think what is that that uh that Mother's Day week right that's fine oh Mother's Day is the 12th I guess right oh probably yeah uhuh yeah that it's the week following Mother's Day I mean we could just pick a date or do you want to do it on a Saturday so anybody who's available can come out that's fine I mean I can imagine it's GNA take a you said how many people how yeah I wanted to ask Ward to help us because got the tools and uh but and I assume a weekday you know 11: am 10: am would be good yeah that's F I mean if if um if you want to ask Ward and and uh see what day he's available and if he needs help I can probably make something you know I can I can come out and help him yeah we we have to because he isn't going to know exactly what we want and the um okay let's let's pick um Tuesday the 14th how's that sure yeah so it would just how how um it's just for it right I don't know we one of us needs to go there and walk it you if you were going to go over and walk it maybe you could document which ones we're missing because we also need to buy the numbers to put on the top of them you know their numbers like you yeah I'll go I'll go this week sometime okay great because that way we'll know and I'll go this speak sometime and I'll do some research okay and I'll ask himim if that date works okay I'll just send the notice to everybody on the commission and anybody who wants to go out there can that sounds good okay all right perfect um what yeah so the other thing I I just have other plans for old business and one of them is bird Quest I don't know what I I I I reached out to John about bird Quest and I'm not sure if he's going or not I'm not sure so but we did research on it and we still have a couple more days to sign up if any was interested you have to go online there's no paper signed you have to go online and sign up we can sign up until when I think it was like the 28th yeah 28th of April what is it May so John never told you no no he never I I asked him twice about burquest he responded about other things but it's not about burquest yeah I he may not necessarily want to be the only person who goes out there um yeah he he's just always done it so uh and I had thought of calling Joe Arsenal and making majority of it on his back porch which is really a nice place to sit and do bir because it gets a lot of good birds birds isn't it and we usually walk Malaga Trail actually that's what we do that and Joe's house would be the two things that we always try to do then yeah sometimes we end would end up at Scotland Run Park um because that you can pick up um a few things there that you don't necessarily see anywhere else but uh well Brown Thrashers we always get brown Thrashers in Scotland Run Park but anyway is it did anybody want to go out who's there sitting there I'm not going to out no didn't expect you guys to go I'm thinking about it hello I have no plans to go right now okay all right I I'll I will try to I'll try to find out if John's going to go I'll bug him again okay you know okay yeah and ask him when you if you if you contact him um we never got the uh what do you call it the the cleanup supplies for the not that I'm in a hurry to get them because we don't do it until the fall but um he never responded about that part as well so okay I just told him anytime you want to meet me at the building um so yeah if you can get in contact with him and and uh okay let him know just write back to me anytime he wants it's fine okay it's for him to get there because of Main Road being blocked off right now but so I have to drive around unfortunately but um I'm willing to meet him whenever he has time so and where's main we win it's R 4 Main Road um are uh they're they're doing construction there so he had he lives on the other side of Main Road and I live on this side and we were going to meet in the old but to get there he's going to have to drive all the way around it's just not a big deal but it's just a the intersection is blocked is that it oh really yeah local trap yeah local trap my dades about okay well the moment I I cut through the old Wawa yeah yeah yeah even if you need old wa you get up one sure yeah okay Fred um any get any he talk where you are been you're not supposed toless it's local traffic you live there but I mean the ambulance is right there there yeah you have to Y okay um great so under new business I put on there um a mailbox for the environmental Commission because I didn't want to forget to bring it up I was like I know I'll forget I reached out to Barb um I haven't heard anything and I was just curious Mark do you do you have tomorrow night that's great okay it just we just wanted a mailbox uh if possible you want Center uh I don't really know I mean everybody no I have a mattress old onch we know NEX there like say in the other building yeah go ahead you're stuff in there we go not wor that's why you don't have one ask it's like a crza like a shelf thing on the left you walk at a table like the the shells on the left and that's where the yeah or like the engineer would have a bin we would have a b yeah I how about um because I was wondering if uh I haven't brought it up my the meeting's smart from all we hav seen years what I'm sorry what are we talking about talking about Frank cahoot and um Giovani yeah right represent play So yeah so we have we have no nobody on the plan board to say anything if up really I I have their names out last you could ask Ralph but I don't know if he'll want to do it it's our community we all who should be Ral res R Ralph TR is on the uh planning board he could be asked if he'd be willing to be on the commission I don't know if he'll want to do that because he's already you know involved in a lot of stuff I don't know if that would affect his membership like I think the environmental commission is a second class member and Ralph may not want a onee membership oh is that is that the cas yes yeah so he's not GNA want to give up his security of being on the board one ter well I don't know why that would be the case because after all J M was the chair of the planning board and he sat on the environmental commission for years it would be for years I don't think you have to be a class such and such member to be on the environmental commission I think it's the other way around that there needs to be a commission member on the planning board and if there isn't they might end up being in that class but otherwise I'm not sure that's the case yeah you're saying you're saying add Ralph to the board not replace cahoot with Ralph that you're suggesting no I'm suggesting replacement yeah well there's only one member that that comes in through the um environmental commission I don't know if it's a class three or whatever so I don't think it matters who I don't think it would change his class I you know I don't think that matters yeah it would it would because there's certain classes of members on the board one of them is the Environmental commission so class two yeah at least that's where the is run well then how was a Jay able to be um a class one uh on the planning board well anybody can be the chairman they elect their own chairman anybody Frank who could be the chairman that well he certainly was a class one member he was on the planning board for years I I'd have to look up the municipal an LA to see which classes or which but um sure you yeah it's a specific class but like there's nothing that would prevent Rous from also being on the environmental commission yeah I don't think there is I don't think it says that I don't think it says that if you are that in order to be on the the environmental commission you must be a class such and such and I don't think it says that anywhere but anyway no no no in order to be on the planning board you to be that certain class you have to be a member of the Ral commission the the other way around and what you said SS yeah okay environmental commission is allowed to have one member of the commission on the planning board by right do oh I understand he's also not attending planning board meetings is that right no comment on that okay I don't know I think he was he was at the solar one yeah yeah I understood the only show up for the solar one okay the solar was close following the sh up to that and then set up this time as well so I mean I don't know the guy at all so I don't want to say anything about so I'm just no no I just he you know if he's attending planning board meetings that's good um yeah but do that he may not really have the time to be on the environmental commission so okay well I don't know what we can do about it right now who else Leon Mark second wasn't the practice of the environmental commission that if people don't show up that you sent them a letter and ask them to if they would please resign so that they basic F by some you can do that can do that know those people I don't know that written anywhere well it's just a policy we used to do it I mean it's like only Reon yeah ask can ask to come on and you know they would voluntarily resign because they haven't shown up I they try to put it nicely but well that's not the isue I don't think that's really the issue so much as I mean it could be but um as we need a Lea on with the planning board we need somebody on the environmental commission who's also on the planning board and who can bring the environmental commission's thoughts or point of view or whatever to the planning board when it's needed so that's really the issue is finding that person and getting that person to be on the planning board and that requires an appointment to the planning board probably unless Ralph could be the one who does it and that's somebody who has to be willing to be on both monthly meetings which is you know ask we already have that that's who what Frank is but he's not but he doesn't come but he doesn't participate in the Environmental commission at all that's what well yeah maybe that's why I'm confused Barbera said it's a an attendance problem and you said it's not attendant problem that we just need the representative I was confused by that I apologize well she's talking about asking somebody to resign and I'm saying it doesn't M much matter if we can't you know it'd be nice to get somebody who is active but more importantly is to get somebody who can who's also on the planning board that's all stay well if he resigned from the environmental commission he would know he would have to go up the seat on the pling board oh he would yeah yeah that's why yeah that's why he's that's why he's there yeah oh I see right voted on committee was asked in December to uh find somebody who would uh be in that seat and nothing happened and I don't know whether it's because nobody was willing or what but I'm not sure that we can address it four ourselves oh that's what the one what I'm sorry sorry we're having two separate they're talking about it was it the solar field is that what it was yeah they they're coming back CU they got preliminary that's come back for which one for which solar field the one on oh okay yeah so that's going to go ahead assum presumably okay yeah um the the other piece of your business is is to just start thinking about the community day even though it's early I mean as to who's going to actually and what we want to do yeah well whatever we were going to do we did the same thing that remember yeah we never got to do it could we just do that I for actually yeah well John was John was GNA bring stuff so I'll ask him about that as well I'll call John and try to I'll keep bugging him until I get them because we need to know if we can just use what we were going to do last year that would be simple okay okay yeah do you know what dat this year it's I'm sure nember I'm sorrys like you'll have to say it again Evan because it breaks up sometimes oh um do you know what day Community Day is this year gonna be like 21st of September or something yeah I think it um right okay I think it's the 20 oh I think it's the 22nd but I'm not sure okay let me see if I can find that out right now you about you got we reject right yeah he he came The Zing board got approval put it in front of the house I guess yeah like I guess the front within the front yard right the build cler of the street houses yeah you got that first I don't see it on here I can always look later too you're looking for it yeah internet really slow right now oh here we go I don't know what it would be under yeah and again they're at that yeah I don't remember speciic those well that's okay um it's taking forever uh I guess we can um is there any other new business that want up um so I guess we can move on I didn't get any mail or anything like that uh so yeah there's no mail so I guess we can if if everybody sounds if it sounds good to everybody can move on to uh German um yeah should uh anybody want to make a motion a motion and mor makes a motion second seconds all in favor say I forgot favor and also um Community Day is on the 21st 20 oh 21st of course yes not the 22nd because all Sunday okay yeahi hi je for one second yeah sure what sorry just real quick I was talk you know that evening I meeting and we also have Master planing committee meeting same evening I'll get there as soon as I can okay um but I just want to give you know fine I sent an email to the rest my meeting starts at 6 but probably like you so I don't know how long you guys are playing on for but make well I like to keep it to seven to nine but we'll see whe you know because we need to finish well if that's the case sound we'll have at least one more addition Mee right I don't think you're going to get warehous prob take uput I know I don't know if we're gonna get through all of it for sure yeah but I think all right if I can make it I will if not sorry okay all right well and if you have thoughts on on it that you wna send okay all right you that great thanks J um what did you guys just stop the recording yeah I know what did you just pass a resolution but right now they did you just pass I still hear I'm sorry oh yeah toj the meeting oh okay so the time is what8 oh yeah sorry it's uh 8:39 thank you I'm not used to this stuff wait who who motioned and who seconded with that who motioned and who marget and Jason I been work