e me get you in here than you sir okay we're ready okay the ARP meeting is called to order um got a roll call please Mr roach
here Mrs power here Mrs orwine here Mr Smith here acting chairman Dockery here also president participating our assistant Town attorney nazaro Town manager Greg Denham and myself absent with notice is Mr
lions and now we need to do our annual organization yes we do so we need to appoint a chairman the April meeting oh okay April
meeting sorry the annual reorganization meeting of the arpb is April Sor okay no problem okay so we will put that on the agenda is an item okay thank you very good because that kind of caught us off guard look at
Renee caught me off guard uh okay uh has everyone had a chance to review the minutes and you have any thoughts or changes if no we'll get enough motion to approve I move to be approved as presented
second Mr roach uh yes Mrs power Mrs wor yes Mr Smith yes yes acting chairman doerty yes okay are there any additions withdrawals to Pearl's arrangement of agenda items for
today doesn't look like no no sir okay uh you'll see the next meeting date uh April 24th and it goes into May June July no August please make a note of all those now we can begin the public
hearing uh has anyone had any expar communication here on this Bo all right thank you um anyone going to be testifying to give the oath Renee please raise your right hand swear to
tell the truth the whole truth nothing but the truth to help you go okay this is our first application um for the Lavin I believe go ahead they have it in front of them oh okay good thank you yeah so we have a presentation we're going to put up on
the screen as well my name is AB canthon I'm the agent for the Livin I'm also the architect so this particular project was going to be an addition to the house and I guess when we when we start we can uh you can put it
up all right so we see this is going to be the proposed rendering of the house uh we see you know just things like that if we go to the next slide where it's located so it's the satellite view of the house it shows us where it's
actually located it's a 1555 North Ocean um there's two properties that are similar similar in style to the north and south of this property uh the type of style that we're using is this Mediterranean Revival style we go to the
next slide it tells us what that is some reason it's not moving just keep going I'll get I'll get to you okay I don't yeah I don't I don't have it in front of me so it's hard for me to explain it but if you if you guys have
it in front of you it explains what's on that style you know it's like the barrel root the stucco we're probably all familiar with that sorry technical issues um I guess how how can [Music]
I if you um at the very bottom of the screen there's a little way to present it with that little um this little button right here I know what the button is it's just not working it's it's not going to my try it there
it goes okay so yeah we see how this is the type of style it's terracotta uh masonry very similar to even the golf stream golf club that type of style so we're matching that type of uh architecture
with the addition um on the next slide we'll we'll see uh some more about this so this is what the existing house looks like there's a courtyard where they currently Park their cars uh what we're doing is propos Ching
to take the roof off of the courtyard take or take the roof off of this area right here and then take the roof off of the existing garage and then go up and we're matching the same Heights and everything
as the existing house uh so these are the types of styles that we have you know there's fountains there's patios we're not really changing the architecture just adding square footage so on the next slide we'll see some more so these are the existing elements
of the house that's the frontage on the left about how the house looks from the front on the right that's the fountain that's currently at the rear of the courtyard down below we have the existing roof line so you can see the
pitch of the roof the barrel tile and that existing arcade Courtyard that's currently there and on our next slide so this is the proposed front of the addition you notice that the courtyard is now taking out and the
garage which was on the left side has gotten taller with a larger door so now we have a five car garage as well as an overhanging balcony to match the current balconies that are overhanging on the house same window element same arches same Barrel tile same roof pitches same
everything we did another rendering from the front so you can see how that looks on the next slide um you'll see how we try to avoid having just a flat wall so we kept that same design element that's there right now on the front edge with the three windows that are currently on
the existing house we matched it on the addition all right and so those are the renderings the slides after this just show the floor plans if you wanted to see those or we can just look at it in front of you might be easier this way but these are the floor plans and elevations of the house or of the
addition that we're proposing all right have we confirmed that the square footage um it's pretty tight on the square footage is it we okay on square footage tray just stays just under uh yes we went back and forth
uh on this uh issue there was a misstatement on a previous application from a number of years ago that Rita Taylor had reviewed which indicated that it was actually significantly more um so we came to the
12,3 90 U maximum permitted and this is still underneath that I don't want to hog the show can I ask another question please ask why sir the um we we don't really like twostory buildings that have a flat face and I understand you've
added some decorative uh feature there but is there any way to put some other type of Landing or slight offset or something on the on the west side and the South Side the north side probably would be concerned of a neighbor do you have a picture of the North side or a
rendering of the north side uh no we we don't I mean I I understand you've made an attempt to break up the the face of the two-story but um it's still still to me it's still a little bit flat wall two stories tall same thing with the garage
facing on the westmost side of the garage is there architectur anything you could do to make that break that up a little bit more a stuckle band or yeah maybe we can do some hi Mrs LaVine yeah how are you today apologize no no you're
fine um it's not all critical it's beautiful but we're we're not encouraging at all any straight twostory face okay even with the decorative feature you have on the west side it's um you know it's like a overhang is
there a door there actually it's it's overhanging yeah in the garage um I don't know it's just a question okay yeah I mean we can add some banding or things like that there there are other parts of the house that are two stories straight up so yeah I mean we aren't
changing too much we're fighting that beginning to fight that now now okay no we we had a couple this is not at all an extreme case but we had one in town that wasn't really acceptable and it kind of got the whole ball rolling on that I I don't mean you need to offset the thing
four feet or something like that but possibly some decorative banding at what would be the two the you know separate the first and the second floor okay yeah maybe we can do them sugges what that would be just stuckle or um you know
just going going to the North and South maybe from the roof line yeah aot take off yeah it's it's a Beau it's a beautiful addition it's just that the only walls speed well they're going to see these two walls that you're showing I don't remember what the north side
looks like um it's probably yeah it's just a flat uh are you densely landscaped on the North side landscap um so if you look at the pictur it's just really dense you can't see
their house or was the house built do you recall when was it built roughly uh yeah 2001 okay you weren't the architect were you not for the house no no no okay that's
my only question thank you welcome yeah and the north side has those sliding glass doors in the back of it yeah so I mean I think that breaks is way back yeah and really isn't seen
by anybody else I don't believe is it no yeah yeah we have a small path that walks to the yeah I saw but that's that's very heavy landscaping not being touched at all an
important feature too that Fountain that's there we're not taking that out we designed it so that when you open up the garage doors you can see the fountain when you're pulling your car in so that's why we have those sliding doors and windows and things like that oh I okay I'm with
you I don't have any other questions could you do something like that yeah we can add some banding or even a material change or something to match um there are material changes on other parts of the house like might be stucco or stone or something but just separating that
wall horizontally even with the band or material changes would that be sufficient for the board maybe around glors on the back on the North side yeah yeah it would I think that would help it would help just something it up a
little and and over the the two-car garage on the front too obviously there's plenty of ministration what we could do is on the bottom of the balcony wherever that ties in we can run like a six or8 inch stuckle band around the whole sure yeah that might be something
like that y I think that's a good suggestion if there aren't any more questions so anybody like to make a motion to approve with these mining adjustments we have a okay make a motion to approve a level two architectural site plan to to permit a
21 foot Edition including of the existing garage and the new second floor Guest Street above the expanded second oh to include to include the
architectural change of banding on the distinguishing the the first from the second floor yep perfect create hierarchy between the
two okay Mr roach uh yes Mrs power yes Mrs orwine yes Mr Smith yes acting chairman do yes looks nice yeah it's going to be beautiful a lucky caretaker it sounds like
right wait yeah I'd move in there yeah I okay are are we I just called them that's what I was doing sorry um she was stuck in traffic she's about five minutes away so I don't
know if we want to adjourn and then come back or if we just want to mute the mics what do you want to do thank you oh okay that's two minutes away and I was like stopped thank you all very much
for coming thank you it was good see you do we have something like that come back the meeting still do we have something that come back so that you see that we see revised drawings yeah so for we'll just look at it when it comes in for permitting and make sure that it's
consistent with with what we talked about so you make notes right now and you're in your file yes sir you got it um can we go ahead and you start with this no they need to they have the right to hear actually need
to a presentation given that staff has given that staff has recommended denial of this application I think that is prudent to wait for any discussion until they are here um you know myself Greg and Renee are happy to kill time I can soft
shoe or we can talk about what we're doing in town we did approve our overlay district for the core um I think it's the core district oh let see here we go neighborhoods the neighborhood character preservation
overlay District so going with the nomenclature that is uh very uh long however accurate North Ocean Boulevard overlay District we have a a similarly long uh name for our overlay District in the course that will be very exciting
will start seeing applications that will need to adhere to that criteria when we do have Redevelopment in that area so that's um you know that's pretty exciting and and really something that took a lot of work from uh this board here and those who volunteered their
time to be on the um on the committee um so that's uh that's something that's that's really nice see if it works right is there anything by staff or board members we can do those or they all know so nothing nothing by by staff Greg did
you have anything to add no uh I unless you want to hear about the phase two c CIP project in the core uh they're still in Phase One okay and they would like to move in phase two
but you won't let them but we won't let them because they're going to move they're never to get that's right there are things that they need to finish in Phase One and uh I uh don't lose all your Lage that's right so we're not
going to let them do that I anticipate maybe starting on phase two I mean this is always dangerous to do but maybe in a month or two months so yeah what is the most what is this causing most of it is
it the the the the valley gutters maybe or the G the connection to the driveway uh no I mean the the the restoration of uh of the the grass and the irrigation and the driveways is pretty much done but uh uh they had some uh issues with a
pipe that uh had collapsed that they needed to put in uh and uh issues with the 48 inch uh pipe that we had to put in over on polo polo going to the interal right
so that and uh um a waiting game with the health department yeah and and so we're they're just now getting uh the as belts to us uh and so those are important to put
together the package uh that you need to turn into the to the health department what about the concrete do have some concrete issues that I read some stress fractures in some of the valley gut in the valley gutters there's numerous
reasons why you see the cracks and that sort of thing so so uh but I think the the mixture was good it's more about the application of it and the preparation of the base under the under the but all of
those uh will be replaced uh the ones that are the worst and may be dangerous will be be replaced now others that have the hairline cracks will be replaced after uh the the second
lift of asphalt will be put in yeah because that'll prevent the tires question correct that's she's here oh okay all right our I need to swear her in okay thank you Rene right Tru to hold truth nothing but
the TRU to help you got you're up okay hello everyone this is Valeria Kia from environment Design Group I'm a lanscape architect and uh for the past year I've been working with eloro
condominium it's this condo located North Ocean Boulevard you know they have a front Ocean View and also they're connected to the North Ocean um overlay District so can I move to the next
one you can see there for context um where it's located and um there's a couple of condos on that area and also some single family homes so um these are some images for your reference of how the condominium
looks we are working into a series of landscape enhancements for this condom however this is going to take a little bit of time until we get to that point but we would like to do something that can significantly benefit the residents
in this community in the meantime you scroll it down okay that's the existing s plan of the condominium on the top northwest corner you can see that there's a trash enclosure that it's stucked in into their parking area right now this condominium are
fishing the issue that whenever the trash is getting picked up or recycling the truck parts right on the entrance that it's also they connection into the parking garage for the people who live in this in this
community this is very inaccessible um it causes a lot of traffic for nor Ocean Boulevard and also it's very unattractive for the whole Community they see the stru closure from their front windows every single day and this is what we're proposing we
would like to tuck it in a little bit more into the lands Cape having a pedestrian connection for people who are using it and to dump it out but we would like to have it service through nor Ocean Boulevard this will avoid all the
traffic into the building that is causing it and it's also will be faster because what happened before is the car will park here and people will have to walk it out and takes much longer than if it's straight from North Ocean Boulevard
next one so zooming it in I know there's some concerns about how this is going to look from the street we definitely don't want want it to be a ugly access point from the street we have this wandering path
which allow us to add more planting so it will help us screen it from every different angle that people are driving through or walking through nor Ocean Boulevard and we don't want to add a lot of concrete for that area either so what
we're proposing is that reinforc loan um that system is it will just look like loan you won't see anything from the top and it's very durable it's even used for fire track use so something small as like a trash
bin will be no problem for that area next one that's the image of reference on the left for what it looks like right now and then on the right it's the a promised area where we're locating it
that area is also overgrown landscape a lot of invasive species so this is kind of like a way to Target that area enhance it while we are also relocating this Str en closure um that's our landscape plan
we're proposing a couple of the gastam trees small but multi trunk so they have like that wider canopy that it's screening the enclosure mixed with some shrubs ters like uh green bottomwood also um Green
Island FAS and some lady palms for different textures and on the next image on next page you will find the images for the Blends and the next page you will find the rendering from the street and the whole idea is
that you cannot see it from the street um those are the lran trees that are multi drun very wide perfect height for screening that area and the next page you will see that it's hidden behind those streaks so since we have that wandering
path it helps us to block different views and we can add more vegetation if needed for that and I think that'll be all so I have a just of a functional question yeah do you do you all not have a dumpster itself like a big metal
dumpster you have actual trash bins that are no sorry yeah there's two dumpsters inside and some um roll out bins for recycling and so you you you think that the garbage men can come and and roll
that out through the grass to get to A1A to be accessed yeah because right now they're they cannot even access all the way inside for that to be service the the walkways are very narrow for the truck to
go the truck stay out on A1A and they wheel the they wheel the dumpsters out to A1A now or does the truck go into the parking lot it goes in but it it doesn't go all the way in and to be functional
either so the guys wheel out the yeah correct and then toss it well is the thing that picks it up yeah it's the one with the anchors and yeah so they would have to in theory back up correct into nor Ocean Boulevard whenever they're getting out that's what
you would anticipate they would stop and back on this curvy Court yeah that you're proposing back up oh I saying no well yeah this would be like rolling it out to the point where it can be
access yeah and that's actual like grass real real grass well is what you're proposing in that right there it has a system yeah it's like a mesh yeah okay cor right there's going to be
levels and all of that it's not visible it's all underneath what I actually pulled the manufacturer's brochure for grass to and it advises against use in areas where braking or turning occur such as entrances and exits to parking
facilities which this sounds a lot like so I might be concerned about thining and yellowing over time and degradation of the grid which visually would be impactful so it's it won't be driven over that's right but the Wheeling of
heavy metal dumpster CU those are very heavy yeah very heavy especially when they're full on a different note what oh sorry is the are the trucks going to be on A1A
or are they going to be on that that walkway it would be on A1A okay that helps and they're always on A1A for other it's going to Hal all the traffic and uh well this wouldn't be the only condominium there's other condominiums
that they have the trash outside so they they do that for it's the one South I don't know the address but there's a couple that are South Jama Square yeah they don't have any place for it it's it's right up front but they pull um they've got all
those parking spaces and so when those are empty the trash pulls over I think the other buildings the trash truck pulls in to every one the buildings off like this building correct yeah pulls in pulls in it's off the road because it
takes some time to move those big dum and do the emptying it's not like just grabbing the B dumping and going I don't see other than the Aesthetics for the owners you're kind of Shifting the Aesthetics of it from the owners of the property to everyone that
either lives across the street or is driving along A1A one of them is me there's three or four of us that live across the street I I think you will see it when you're driving north I think if you look in there you're going to at least see the front of the I know it's going be enclosed with doors but you're going to see it where you don't see
anything now at all so you're going to go from seeing a nicely landscaped buffer there to seeing the front doors of possibly a storage bin um I I if I lived in Elo I would think it's a great idea but I think anybody other than that
I don't see where it's a benefit to anybody else living in the community or across from the property is it is it just is that what it really is it's an inconvenience to the owners of el Coro it is it's not just aesthetic but it it blocks the access for all the
residents too it does what it blocks the access for the um parking area oh the only person that lives in apartment that happens everywhere when the truck comes in and you sometimes have to wait three minutes and that's
just life of living in an apartment that makes sense yeah probably the same happens at your home when they I think it's really I think it's well positioned where it is is and I don't I don't see I don't see where it's
a good thing did we hear from um Neighbors at all we did we did get complaints from The Neighbors after the notices went out oh they they were not in favor that doesn't and staff doesn't recommend it either you and what about the possibility of
was still taking it in even if it service from inside the building so it's not right in front of the the the parking area mean You' got another location you could consider we could but even I was just
thinking even on that same location um could you move to or three Im Just more which one I think it's a slide five or six one 1.5
can't this one a good one that's the best one to look yeah one more yeah yeah if we it's it's still moban it's a away from the street but it's still tucks in
so it's not in front of the parking area for the community you have that's not clear to me where you're proposing it just what it's there but eliminating the connection into North Ocean Boulevard oh oh so you'd still come in from the
parking lot of the condominium yeah right now it's just now it's going to be a wall swing it back in a little bit into the property um yeah we we'll have to figure it out the the um axis but even pushing it a
little bit inside so we can add more screening so it's not visible for the people living inside the building can you look at do you have L 6.0 she yeah I think that's all 6.0 that's
the existing yeah but but I think that she's saying is that just is a flat front right on the parking lot one propos would be to tuck that back yeah further into that may be more there no no A1A access it would
just be tucked back further in correct yeah well you sort of like you show on the sheet before on L5 you know you show that that's not the way it is now I don't think no it's not in other words you would you would tuck the the
contained dumpster facility it would go back in Into the Woods a little more m great yeah we'll clean it up and make it [Music] better I think anything that that would be not coming off of A1A would be more
acceptable right we would have be we're okay with looking potentially at an alternative plan but not on A1A okay so you'd have to come back and bring us detailed plans and show us exactly we can't make a determination right now with just talking generically so we have
advertised this and notice it properly so what we can do is we can defer it to the next meeting and they can revise to eliminate any entrance off of A1A and give us an an idea of what that uh what her proposal looks like it will we will probably have some landscape disruption
in North Ocean so we'd want to make it clear of record what exactly that is um is there anything else the board would like to add as far as guidance to the applicant and how to um adjust the application for next month's meeting
I would like to Ren notice it though I don't I don't want it don't you think we have noticed it for for this meeting so we we'd be deferring it to next month we would not be required to Ren notice it we would not I don't know Florida law is a little
tricky we may we may R notice just in case to be on the safe side I would like to Ren notice that's fine we can do that yeah not so would it be a motion to defer motion to defer it to the uh to a Time certain
which is the April 24th meeting yeah April 24 okay I'll make a motion to Def the the plans of the movement of the uh Gage
garbage facility at court Coro uh until more additional plans can be uh can be viewed by the arpb at at the next meeting uh and to
decline a uh an entrance from A1A okay I'll second that Mr roach yes Mrs power Mrs orwine yes Mr Smith yes acting chairman dockerty yes thank you thank you
okay we uh we talked we finished the staff items or yes sir yes okay great and any board member discussion well in are we allowed to continue discussion a little bit of discussion on this issue
or they have to be here we we did we did close upon the motion of voting yeah you can ask a generic question well generically uh I'd like to ask about uh
the idea of having trash facilities on any of the Condominiums right off of A1A I think A1A is a fairly iconic Road and uh you know with with all of the you know Australian pines etc
etc and I think if we open a Pandora's Box like that it could end up being quite a problem so in the future when we have pre-application meetings from anyone uh representing a condominium we would
indicate that that is essentially a non-starter and we would have to process it but we would say that that is not permitted um based on that's that's my opinion you know that's consistent with
with staff's reading of the North oan Boulevard overlay District I mean we do have an existing trash enclosure at the time share that is is right there but once you get deeper into town it is a lot more um a lot more vegetation and
all that so so that's a a pre-existing you know um oh this time share closer the time share right across the street here yeah um and that's certainly nothing that we want to encourage uh in our in our town so so uh
go ahead would the pathway be considered an additional driveway cut so because they're not actually using it for Access like they're not actually driving on it I think that we would probably um not not apply that um but I know
there are you know when we do have houses coming off of A1A there is only one driveway so there's no circular driveway and things like that even in very large properties um but no I don't I don't think so just because it did it wasn't really for for Access um but you
know as far as the traffic you know concern goes I think that you guys are absolutely right that you know there's an increase in traffic on A1A even if you're allowing the person in the condominium to get in and out and if they are getting out and the trash truck is on the road they still are
inconvenienced so um you know I think that um they're were looking for a solution that didn't really exist with with that particular item so well she had plan be pretty ready to
up any other questions or thoughts very good thank you Curtis well I guess we'll adjourn the meeting all right thank you