[Music] all right why don't we go ahead and get started here uh so go ahead and call the hell effect finance committee meeting to order it is uh 6:02 pm today is Monday April 1st 2024 uh in attendance from the finance committee is uh Frank John EJ Bryant Michael Bennett Bill Smith Jim Walters and myself Todd Dary uh this meeting is being conducted remotely and recorded by area 58 uh first order of business on the agenda was the acceptance of the finance committee meetings from our last uh meeting which was March 18th those are actually still on the works so those should be disseminated well will be deed this week and we'll look to uh vote those on Monday April 8th our next uh scheduled meeting um moving on then on the agenda was the uh finance committee review and open discussion on budget status so just kind of threw this out there as a placeholder just to uh enable us to have some discussion around the budgets obviously as uh everyone knows it's uh you know very fluid situation uh the school committee is meeting tonight um I think actually read at this very moment uh and Cody is there in person so hopefully we'll get some feedback from him uh post the session on how that went uh the next steps from there is a a meeting is scheduled for tomorrow at 1:30 to 2:30 I know Jim you'll be attending that as well um I'm G to try to dial in uh remotely I'll be in the office tomorrow but I'm G to try to join remotely there and then so hopefully we'll get some further updates in that session and then um and then um the next the actual budget presentation I guess I should say will occur on Wednesday April 3rd and so they're starting off with uh 's presentation so that will happen at 5:30 uh and and they're you know expecting it to go to 7 and then they'll be or 6:30 I guess and they'll uh be on site at the Town Hall in Halifax at uh for 7 pm on Wednesday the 3 um so that's kind of like where we are you know with the overall planning I guess or once we once we see their presentation obviously on the joint session with the board of Selectmen on Wednesday um you know I expect there to be some in depth discussions and we'll have to figure out from there what our uh you know final recommendations are I think you know everybody's hopefully comfortable with where we are with our numbers to date you know knowing that we're missing you know over 50% of the budget itself but if anybody has any questions thoughts concerns or anything you want to bring up them I did want to um point something out if you look at the one dve we've made some changes I made them them today we've been dealing with um the postage meter different Apartments putting money into the postage meter and then you know using other people's money and people forgetting to put money in so I had made the suggestion a few years back so I brought it up to Cody again is taking the postage out of each person's budget each Department's budget and creating a postage account so we're going to put it in office machines so you'll see that office machines jumped up 23,00 500 but all of that money that went in there came from other budgets so I reduced the um assessors the treasurers the collector's expense the town clerk's expense the election registration Council on Aging Board of Health zoning planning and conservation those are all people who use the postage meter and have postage budget in in their accounts and and the building inspector so I've highlighted all of the that I took money out of in yellow okay and then in Orange the office machines budget I highlighted in Orange so that you could um could see where the changes were made and that was a direct offset Sandy dollarwise yes yeah direct offset so that next year we just will they'll feed the postage meter from The Office Machines account and the all the Departments that use it all the time will be able to continue to use it okay okay yeah no I think that makes perfect sense anyone anyone have any thoughts or comments on that everybody comfortable that change I think it Mak so all the budget sheets have been changed to reflect the movement well I just changed it on the line okay um I didn't change the budget sheets but I went to the budget sheets to get the amounts okay um the only ones that like zoning and planning right and conservation they didn't have their broken out so I took um I think it was 200 from zoning 200 from planning 300 from conservation cuz they do a lot of mealings mhm 200 from building 200 from bard of Health um yeah so like the assesses I took 770 the treasure um 1,900 The Collector 11,000 town clerk 1,000 and election registration 8,000 so it should straighten things out we've spent I I can't tell you spend hours trying to figure out which departments not paying um it's just the machine itself doesn't allow you to like each department to have to put money in in order to use it so when they're running this through they're using someone else's money it's just like One bank so this way we won't have to worry about that anymore okay I fig like the telephone right I mean it should be one big account would imagine I guess yeah yeah okay all right yeah thanks for mentioning that Sandy I think that's was a great idea um total dollar amount you move Sandy 23,500 23,500 yeah thank you okay all right so that's really the where we are with the status I guess the next item on the agenda was just the open discussion on budget cuts and the actual Revenue figures yeah so okay i' I'd like to kind of kick that off a little bit Todd if that's yeah go ahead um so the biggest probably one of the bigger concerns that I have um and I've talked to I believe uh Cody about it and Sandy and I had a quick chat about it last week is the one thing that concerns me so far as the schools go is they they really have no substantive uh documentation of their due diligence for the you know the higher dollar items that they have so as an example school like like the special education Transportation which is like $1.7 million for the next fiscal year there's no I don't think it went out the bid there's no like here's the three prices we got and this one's the lowest so this is the one we're going with um you know there's no it just doesn't feel like or I don't feel like there's enough due diligence on their side when it comes to those types of line items um to Warrant you know just an automatic approval my opinion um so you know that's that's probably one of my concerns and I'm going to ask again when we go to the meeting tomorrow to see if they have any of this stuff and if they when they come to present the budget to the to the town they should be able to present that and say here's what we did I mean that's just how a budget should be run no yeah I totally agree and I think you're exactly right and as you know you and I worked extensively in trying to dive into the details of the uh the special last year yeah last year we really ran into a roadblock with them um giving us the data that we needed to which the vast majority of the cost surprisingly was local was it was all Kingston because when I first started off the analysis I expected it to be like you know the transportation to Randolph and other communities that are pretty fur you know farther out but the vast majority of the cost was just you know was local so there definitely seemed to be an opportunity there to save some money somehow um you know still it's still a challenging um scenario but um but there are opportunities there and yeah Jim and I ran into a roadblock with just getting the the details from from them to be able to progress further and have some um some real discussion so so I think it's definitely worth bringing it back up uh you know there has been some change there with folks involved um I wasn't I haven't been able to attend any of the sessions unfortunately just you know due to my work hours and such but I have been watching the videos and in the last video I you know I watched um that that was posted um you know they had trouble I think just understanding some of their numbers as well which was you know of concern being so late in the game so hopefully a lot of that's been sorted out um you know for for tonight's meeting and then um you know they'll be able to give us some clarity um in our session on Wednesday but I think Jim you're exactly right they really should really need that from them to understand what's driving the numbers and and you know what due diligence they've done to um to reduce costs where possible and things for that nature so I don't does anybody else have any thoughts there I guess at all well I know in the past one of the drivers has been uh the issue has been uh vendors the number of vendors that want to it is yeah that's one of the challenges yeah and that's that that's a little tough when you get that and uh the number you know the number of kids is is uh fluctuating a little bit they you know goes up and down but uh back a few years I remember you know uh vendor was a big issue and then of course as it's harder and harder to get vendors the prices go up and up and up no matter how far you're driving these kids whether it's a mile or 100 miles you know the prices just go crazy and that was that was one of the big problems that they had is is going out to bid getting somebody to bid though was was their biggest issue and those that did come back were offering Crazy Prices yeah but see we don't know that Mike because they don't provide the information well we don't know that this year yes right right but I'm sure that's probably still part of what's going on but no yeah yes they're not telling us I know I know that's just some of the background issues that go on from past years yeah yeah and it was pretty bad a couple years ago which kind of kicked off the analysis and you know all the work that we we try to do there because the bills were um think of it was back in fiscal year 23 I want to say where the bills just were like uh getting larger and larger and um you know we had to keep doing transfers and stuff to to fund it which um was a big problem so right um but anyways yeah that there there's a lot of challenges around it and Michael is exactly right there's only so many vendors that you know can be utilized but I do think there's probably some opport unities to revisit and I don't know how long ago they've actually had those discussions so it may be just due for another uh cycle and um you know at the end of the day maybe there isn't a lot you can do but you know again I think there's opportunities to at least make sure we're doing the best we can to keep no I I agree I absolutely agree I think that that I think is is what I would believe is part of the challenge with cost getting so exorbitant it would just from a business perspective benefit the town and the school to relook at these contracts that they're they're working and go back and renegotiate them if they have the opportunity to do that or go somewhere else and you know to get a lower cost whatever whatever that takes I'm I I I I guess I'm just I'm a little surprised that it just seems to be um a little bit of inaction on their part in my opinion again just my opinion uh that you know they just this is the money this is the money they need and they just kind of shrug their shoulders and and hand you a hand you a bill like I don't know what to do with this but here you go yeah yeah yeah I know it's a challenge and and part of the challenge is too being a regional um you know only if two out of three approve right then it's um then it is what it is and kind of gets shoved on our throats and that's kind of the way it's been the last few years that I've been a part of this the budgets have always come in at the last minute and um and know it's always been a big pill to swallow but uh this year is on a whole another level uh for various reasons and some of those we we'll walk through on on Wednesday as well uh Cheryl I see you joined as well so I just wanted to make sure I introduce you as part of finance committee so Cheryl Zera bur has joined as well and actually I see your hand up Cheryl did you have a no I was gonna agree with Jim as far as you know them contracts revisit some of those contracts don't they have to use the same budget you know the same things that the other towns do in order to use thing in order to get contracts don't you send out bids to various companies do they do that do we know that I it I just to speak in the school's defense I believe that they do that I think that we just don't see that end of it so it doesn't hurt to ask them and and just say you know we're curious did you go out to bid this year how many responses did you get um are you seeing any incre inre in vendors it's good to get the information but I wouldn't just assume that they don't do the work because I believe that yeah I don't assume they don't but we don't know that because they don't share that right and part of the issue is that the budget always comes in so late yeah you don't have which yeah which is another point I think we need to bring up as part of the session um on Wednesday is uh you know is as long I've been a part of this it's been a problem every year and and every year they tell us it's going to be a better process or whatever and it just it's never been that right and and this year is by far the worst that I've seen um so I think I think there needs to be better planning um so you know I think that's something we should bring up and ask them on uh they know whether they do or not it's a yes or no question yeah right no but I just mean in the overall but planning itself right because they everyone knew that back in like December right there was going to be a problem here but then like here we are in April and we haven't even still seen the budget yet right like right you know that's four months ago four to five months right have pass so so I think there's we need to have some discussions around that because we can't keep doing this every year right like the town can't operate this way um you know it just needs to be a better process and I don't know that involves us getting more involved earlier in the in the year or or if they need to hire more resources on their end or or whatever that you know solution is but something needs to be addressed here because just you know doesn't just doesn't work in the way that it's operating so um but anyways yeah so unfortunately there's only so much we can really cover with the budget given that you know the the school makes up about Theon share of our of our budget um so I think we've done what we can on our side at least for now I'm just going to share my screen with you as well let me know if you can see that yeah hey hey Todd could I real quick yeah go ahead DJ um do so I the number if I remember correctly the last time we spoke uh reductions on their side was about 600,000 we were looking for is that still correct um I think so yeah so it hasn't shifted at all since we last spoke no based on yeah the the last email that Cody sent off with the summary that's the last that um that I think you know has been submitted they've been working kind of behind the scenes so I think I would imagine and you know hopefully so there will be an update tonight in the session um so hopefully Cody will have a sense of some of the figures but um but yeah we haven't seen anything further from there so we were pretty pretty far off still okay and I know that uh clemton you know wasn't a isn't able to afford what they're uh have produced so far either so um you know so I think we're in the same boat with them um hopefully the numb you know has moved and kind of at least come closer like I don't expect them to come all the way to where were're uh saying you know what we're um you know telling them to so we may have to work to try to meet in the middle of B but um you know but again I haven't seen any any updated numbers or anything and I still don't even understand all the numbers and it doesn't sound like again based on the last uh you know meeting that I saw posted they didn't know all the details behind all the numbers either which I think is is still was a concern so yeah okay thanks Todd yeah yeah sure um so on the screen here so this is in relation to the fiveyear um Revenue figures which this is actually Beyond you know five years here um so um this is Cody so I had asked Cody can kind of put this together just so we could have a sense of kind of the growth over the years uh I'm just going to start here in this last time first actually so this is the new growth um estimate for the town and as you can see it's you know really been in the 140 range or so 150 in the past year years it's down over 40% for this year so 82,000 so that's a you know significantly down year over-ear if you look at the state aid comparison it looks like um you know we're only up 1% this year uh in state aid from year over year so again you know uh hurting us a bit there uh and then if you look at our uh our Revenue growth you know it's been relatively flat um you know we are we're up like almost I think it's like 2.9% or year-over-year change there but um you know 2.68 is what we're expecting um from the local receipts so the the largest driver so it's up like U what like 200,000 I guess 34s of that um 200,000 is made up of uh exis right so XIs is about 100,000 and then um the other um large increase actually is the the Cannabis so um we're expecting um so for fiscal 24 we're expecting 100,000 flat basically 105 and um you know up almost 50,000 for um fiscal year 25 so that makes up like I said three fours of the of the growth just between those two uh you know items so yeah so how how are we anticipating the increase if we've been trending down for the last two years why do we think it's going to go up next year uh what are you referring to Jim what's your your estimate your fy2 estimate you're estimating the excise tax to go up when it's been going down so this isn't my estimate this is Cody's estimate so if you look at it Jim it has been going down but we've consistently estimated less than what it is so if you look at the FY 23 we had a million two and actual receipts we estimated for FY 24 1 million 50 50,000 and then um he's just bringing it up a little closer to the million to um so just cons go up and down as you can see in the history it go you know we have a bad year and a good year and then you know later on but um he's not bringing it up to what were the actual n FY 23 so we do we conserva are we conservative I guess in our projections here s you're saying for fiscal year we have consistently been conservative okay but we're still trending down right 1. 1286 1. yeah it is trending down yeah you know so it's trailing off right right but if you think of it as cyclical we had a 3% drop in 17 and a 7% increase in 18 so if we had a couple of bad years people going out hey I just bought a new car I'm going to help that one out thank you s people it does tend to be a little a little cyclical as far as that um but then again you know a lot depends on the economy so yeah oh shoot just turn myself off good night all right all right so I mean that's I mean there isn't really a lot to talk about here I guess unless anybody has any other questions or anything but um this is just really was more for an FYI I guess just to get a IDE behind the landscape so you know we're only up less than 3% so to take on anything more than that is just really eats into our overall budget right um I think you know the school has hovered around like 52% of our overall budget what they proposed would would make it 56% of our budget um and then there's the fixed cost right so which is about 133% of the overall budget so um you know what Cody's been kind of going back to them on and we've been proposing is that the 3% increase right would would make up if we settle on that then then between the school and the fixed costs will that will eat up 65% of our overall budget if we approved what they had submitted um you know what the fixed cost would be over 70% of our our budget would be made up of just those two items right so at the end of the day we're only operating off with like 30% of the uh Town's Revenue to um to to run the town right so so it's a big challenge uh that we have not only for uh this year but you know future years as well so Todd um why such a big jump in the pilot program for 25 uh what line is that on Frank um 14 yes so this is uh so there's more to be discussed here Frank good good question though um basically the contract's still um you know solar field yes for the solar field so I understand that but why the big jump what what took place for that big jump to come up in 25 when it's been in $2500 the last several years right so we're signing a cont a new um pilot for a solar field um in the in the last couple of years we did have a solar field that had a pilot but it was um it's the way the Department of Revenue is letting us claim it so before we had to put that pilot towards real estate tax now they're saying no put it in in um the payment in Le of taxes so it's basically basically um this new pilot will go in as a payment in Le of taxes and this is our second pilot correct yes so why is the first pilot so low well this pilot that you see here is not a solar field that pilot is the um the Housing Authority pays us a pilot and that's what that is the other solar field the way it and do keeps changing the rules on us so the way that was figured in it was figured in as real estate tax the solar Fields were yes and are they still figured that way the previous one yes but this one will be the new one will go under this as far as I that's what I got from what Cody was explaining it to me and what percent of that 45,000 is the solar versus the housing the housing is still around 24 2500 it is every year it's been going down slightly each year so 43,000 42,000 is the pilot program yeah for solar right so the money from Pilot number one will say where is that money currently going now yeah all right so my understanding is that money is in our real estate tax it get it's been getting received as real estate tax instead of pilot and that was the previous um principal assessor had had us doing it that way um per doas requirements and Cody came to me this year and said that we're supposed to be putting it under the pilot yeah payment taxes right but that that's still under negotiation right s at this very moment well and and yeah Cody will be able to fill you in more on that but I believe I believe it's very close to being finished so okay yeah yeah so and there's an article that covers this Frank so um you know we won't discuss it tonight because there's some of the contracts being finalized but and Cody will have further Insight so um so my point is I guess is some of these questions we we can ask once we go through that um you know that review with Cody on the details so thank you yeah um all right any other questions or comments or anything on this the revenue sheet I I did give you a new comparison it's in the one drive um under the finance committee under the fy2 budget comparing it to last year's as of the end of February so you can have that to look at later okay all right perfect thank you Sandy all right so sorry I'm just trying to find the attachments there all right so next up on the agenda was the uh the finance commit review and vote on the fiscal 25 Capital year uh plan so um so here's the summary of the the sheet here so um and I can share the the the fiveyear uh projections with you as well we can talk through that before we take a vote or anything but um just want to start with that recommendation I guess that we had from a um Capital planning committee so uh starting at the bottom here um is the water retained earnings uh the 500 so these are the funding sources at the bottom uh unfortunately this year is going to be a very again just with the um you know state aid with the 1% and the you know the Bleak um you know uh framework kind of set the stage with to begin with also you know it's a very bad year for free cash right so it's um usually we've been around a million or 1.2 Millions you know in that ballp par uh this year is about half of that so 600,000 uh that we're expecting in free cash uh the other uh funding Source here is the water retained earnings so uh I want to start with this one and kind of work bottom up uh so the water retained earnings is 525,000 so that's going to fund these two bottom items here uh which was our recommendation so the water treatment plan upgrades so that's 500,000 again being funded out of their um water retained earnings and then the other item was the mini excavator that we we talked about before um that the highway department we you know we approved them to to buy the new equipment and then they're selling the old one to the water department so this has come to fruition through the capital plan here so um so that was the the two um two items for the water department for this year again being funded directly out of their their retainer earnings I guess I'll pause there for a moment any questions on that go ahead Frank that 25,000 I believe we discussed this before from the water department will go over to the general f yes yes yeah yeah okay and everybody's agreed upon that that's what that machine's Worth to uh the Water Department from the highway department they have yeah yeah all right so that was that one uh so then the rest of it the free cash right so just our normal process if you will uh just continue up from the bottom upward so uh the first one is the road maintenance 300,000 so this is something that we do every year the 300,000 um to continue to service the roads uh the next item for police was the two vehicles 120,000 we did we did try to uh take a look at hard look at this and see if there was an opportunity to kind of scale this back to do say maybe do two police cruises like every other year which is technically like one and a half per year or maybe scaling it back just to do the one but um in further discussion and and like looking at that it just doesn't really make sense the the maintenance cost is just going to go up which would have increase the budget so uh it's just doesn't really have the um any valuable effect and and even saving the $60,000 right let's say I mean it's not going to get us very far right at the end of the day so I think it's in the town's best interest just to continue to fund the two uh Vehicles as we have in the past seems to be work very well as a program um so so the recommendation is to continue that um the next item on so Todd Todd before you move on um so the cost of the vehicles has gone up $10,000 over what it was last year and the year before yeah yep easily yep so what's the What proportion of the vehicle maintenance is the is the police budget how much do they spending on vehicle maintenance and how many miles are on the vehicles now if anybody knows uh Chief I do would you have the answer to that or yeah uh the maintenance line is 13,000 has been 13,000 for uh a number of years uh we've been again good with it because of the uh the uh the plan that we have with the uh with the Cruisers the Cruisers that we're trading in uh or would be you know either trading in or or putting it off for auction one has 75,000 miles the other three Cruisers that are on line two one this another one this year then the two the following year will currently have 60,000 miles so by the time um we're ready for next year they'll be close to 8090 which is kind of already playing um you know playing um uh you know close to to to having some issues I I agree with I'm sorry I just that was 15,000 13,000 uh is the on the uh on maintenance line yeah it's not just the um miles you got to consider the engine idling hours which is a h I understand it's it's one car for three officers you know um you know so I I get that and however many off how many many people we have and how many ships they're running you know one guy gets out another guy gets in right and the situation too is that we just been informed by uh by Ford that they're going to uh discontinue the uh hybrid model in um 25 so this will be the last year that we can get the Hybrid models um so that's going to be something else that we're going to have to because they they're supposedly changing the you know the type the vehicle um so which they do that every once in a while and just basically a money maker because this way we can't take the cages we can't take the gun racks we can't take all the other equipment from one car to the other because you know if the dimensions are off you got to buy all brand new stuff so um so so that's going to be another issue that we're going to have for the next fiscal year we're not doing vest this year Chief uh you bulletproof vests I don't know I'm asking you well I wasn't sure if you meant what the vest yeah so the vest are through a grant we apply for that Grant every year and uh that's basically a reimbursement uh you know we we do the H half and then the federal government does the other half yeah so we we will be applying for uh for the same $5,000 that we do we've had the last um you know probably Dozen Years okay it's not is it in here to no it's not it's not it's not a funding request for this year he has the chief has the money that he needs for the vest for this year for now um right and through the grant we will be all should be all set uh next year might be a different story but for this year we're good okay um all right so then the next um well any other questions I guess on the police vehicles before we move off no thank you sir everybody else good okay all right thank you Chief as well for uh trying in there uh the next item is the maintenance um for the fire department so unfortunately there's an issue at in one of the um restrooms on in the firehouse so there's uh some mold um that's been discovered there and uh Scott's done some work to kind of peel back um you know the paneling and such to kind of take a look at it and so they're they're confident that um the 100,000 will will take care of the for remediation of the issue um there is a there's an underlying root cause issue with the property as well I think just based on the it's kind of built on um you know land that uh you know has standing water I guess so um which I think is what's really has caused the issue and and just gotten worse over time so um so this is kind of was our like number one priority to take care of because it's um you know it is an issue and we need to rectify it as soon as possible so that's the intent uh with that item there so that go out the bid I don't know s do you know how any job that side would would definitely go out to bid I don't know whe he's um done the process or just gotten some estimates from for now to get that number I'm not sure so that was going to be my question too I mean do we have do we have an estimate on in hand on that and also have they done they definitely do yes they so they answer the first question yeah they definitely have the estimate in hand I don't know what the bid process was so I can't speak to that specifically but uh they do have they do have the estimates folks came out and took a look at it and gave an estimate and so which is where they came up with this number the the 100,000 like I said so they're they're very confident that um that will take care of um you know the issue in its entirety so did they did they I guess Todd my only other question on it would be did they do a full assessment of the entire fir housee or they just look at the area that they knew that was contaminated I believe a full assessment but um again you know I think that's something we we need Cody you could have Cody um opine on regarding the mold have we gone to our insurance carrier for uh form of reimbursement on this versus using free cash good question um that I mean that I don't know Frank it is a good question um we may be able to file a claim on this I believe that this has been going on for some time and I think that they may have already exhausted that option but um definitely something that Cody would probably be able to answer and I agree with um Ed and um Jim that we definitely need at least two two bids back on this from mold contractors right because it can get out of hand real quick when you're doing a mold remediation project and you know um we just need to make sure we've got got a good handle on what's going on with this thing sure but if we can get a look at our insurance or have Cody do that however that works to see if we can um file a claim against it I think we should look at that opportunity to do that especially if we go beyond these numbers [Music] okay um all right and then the last item was also for the fire department which was the structural gear so um basically there's a you know pretty significant issue with a lot of the gear being um outdated and and you know they need a drastic overhaul of their their equipment they have mixed M mismatch like pants and jackets and some cases things of that nature so um the idea is uh the original request was to fund all um the staff and I think so right now the chief has uh 11 full-time employees and 17 part-time so so 28 in total and so what he's looking to do is uh get you know two sets for all employees so basically it would' be 56 sets 28 times two um and that's so if they go on to a call um you know come back they can throw their stuff in the washer and dryer and uh you know put on a fresh set so so that's really the the long-term goal um it's $6,200 per suit um so it's pretty expensive um so it's not something we can do all at once unfortunately um so really the plan here is to uh the 60 the 74400 will allow them to um do 12 suits and total and then the uh there's an additional two suits being funded by the uh Public Safety ear Mark so that'll get them the 14 sets which will be half um of their Staffing so so it'll take care of all the full-time employees which is 11 and then uh three additional sets uh beyond that which can start to go to the part-time uh and then I think the goal would be to um you know certainly prioritize this for next year as well to maybe give them get them the other half of their um sets uh and then probably continue that you know on a periodic basis to so that's like you know a general turnover in older gear um and keep the equipment fresh is the idea there so to what why do they say they need two two sets per person yeah that doesn't seem right uh he's looking for two sets like I said so that way we're going they go out on a on a site or whatever uh to come back and be able to to wash them and have a clean set ready to go if they get a secondary call so that's really the long-term goal this is this is this is turnout gear right yeah yes yeah I don't I I've never seen anybody watch it I haven't either I don't think you can watch like that but also if it gets wet they it it's useless at a fire scene so if they're at a scene and there gets wet they really need to have be able to have a dry set to put on that was one of the points that Mike Wham had well isn't that isn't that so my understanding of at least you know my understanding of the fire equipment is that it's lined it's water rep there's a there's an outer garment that's no Mex or some type of level of fireproofing Frank probably can then or Bill could probably speak to it but then there's a liner in there that's got like a a rubber backing to it so that the water doesn't get in through the clothes because they could be exposed to chemicals and other things inside the fire and then then that's got like some kind of liner on it for warmth now you know I can certainly understand when they go out in the middle of the summer and sweat their tails off at a fire scene I get that then you smell like a wet dog for the rest of the day um but uh I've never seen in my anybody wash like like take fire gear and put it in a washing machine and dry it between calls I I've never seen that now I could be wrong never seen it either yeah I think it was something that that came up as a recommendation I don't know if what other departments are doing I guess in that regard I mean you know I know that he' mentioned you know with all the carcinogens and things of that nature is a big thing and I think it's a recommendation to uh clean them uh more frequently than than has been in the past so again that was his request so we can certainly have more um you know followups on that um you know we're not funding two sets today right so I think it's a move point you know for now uh but certainly um something we can address with them and get a better understanding on uh you know before we go down the road of actually looking to fund them the two sets but all we're really asking or all we recommended for now is to uh you know buy one full set um essentially for all the full-time employees and then um and then again two are being covered through the aark there so um outside of the funding here so yeah we need to have the sets for the gear that's beginning to expire is the big issue bigger the biggest issue of all because exactly on the wear dates on some of that equipment um Y no and some of it is expired right which is the bigger problem so um so we're we're past through here I'm getting this rectified so something we wanted to prioritize for this year to uh you know start getting them the the equipment that they need so um Cody had sent over another spreadsheet Todd uh yeah so that's the that was the full so I want to just so this is our recommendations uh what the other sheet was let me just pull it up here yeah because I have some discussion on that before I could vote on something like this yeah no understood Cody bill has a question he has his hand up go ahead bill on the on the road maintenance what do we get for chapter 90 money y I have I can't tell you exactly the amount I'm trying to remember if it was what exactly what it was but I can get that information for you while you guys are doing that let me see if I can get into my system and get that information for you okay thank you Sandy um all right so what I pulled up here was the other sheet so this this is what we received as a initial um you know summary from all of the department heads right this is the fiveyear out look um so hopefully you've all I'm not going to go through this line by line it's kind of a lot here but um hopefully you've had a chance to kind of look at this um you know there are some significant costs up coming one of which is like an you know an ambulance over time there's also you know going to be a need for a fire engine um down the road at some point um you know there's the water Department's going to have some um significant needs uh fire engine Replacements here um 850 as an estimate so some of these are some very Big Ticket items which is uh you know you may have recall mentioned this in the past that um you know we need to start taking haircuts off of our free cashes ideally to be able to build up a reserve fund that can help uh fund some of these big ticket items over time but um we're really handcuffed this year by the the the shortage in free cash right if we had the million dollars like uh we've had in past years then uh we could you know move forward with our plan as is now and you know maybe put 200,000 aside or something to that effect but um you know really just unfortunately have no capacity to do that this year uh but something again that we need to make a priority for for future Years hopefully we can get on track with that starting next year um but I know Frank you had some questions I guess so you wanna yeah it's actually on the um sheet that says recommended CIP for funding preferred cheet yeah that's one right here yeah regarding some offer money here 84 ,000 arpa money going for a wood chipper yeah so there's so there's uh just under like $200,000 of it left from the Opera um funding so um it was Cody's recommendation was to um well I mean this is the financial management system implementation so uh to implement that at the 75 and then to leverage um 84,000 of that those funds to uh to replace the wood Chi there that uh has come through Capital request that we tabled uh last year and then again this year with the short funds it's just not something that's um you know feasible yeah I just don't agree with putting arer funds for a wood chipper when we could take that money and maybe move it over 60,000 of that into a police vehicle and take that 60,000 then free cash out of there and move it into our other fund to have that money you know and then 24,000 um we could also apply some of that to the structural gear and uh move that that extra 24,000 over as well you know um so we're talking 64,000 so you're saying to fund one of the police vehicles out of the Opera funds is that what you suggested well take it out of the wood chippa 60,000 and then uh the 24,000 remaining move that up into the structural gear and then the 24 and 60 out of free cash for the police and fire move that over into our um Capital funding that we're trying to build up I just can't I just can't get my head wrapped around giv $84,000 arpa funding to a wood shipper it wasn't Frank the wood chipper last year wasn't $84,000 was it uh no but cost of every goes up and um that's pretty dramatic though because that's like $40,000 more for the same device I think it was like 20,000 wasn't it it was like 65 64,000 for the wood chipper last year yeah I think it was 64 Mike it was 6 yeah that's right 60 something but fact of the matter is how much are we really us in a wood chipper in the town we just bought that um machine uh that excavator machine and the brush hog for to deal with a lot of the brush issues and um which alleviates having to use it the wood chipper for and for using the wood chipper mostly on one Saturday a month down at the Town bar and the chip brush that people bring down for 84,000 I've got a real issue with that yeah yeah I just you know it's tight as things are right now I just can't see us I personally can't see spending $84,000 on another wood shipper yeah so I'm I'm new obviously this year so they purchased one last year as well no no no they didn't they wanted to okay it came up as a capital request and we didn't approve it or we didn't recommend it so are there known are there known issues that they've been spending for repairs on the existing one that were it's an old yeah it's an older one I think and I think the one they want is has like a wider um got a bigger drop yeah can take bigger logs things like that exactly and so you know it's handy when there's storms and stuff and they also like you know as part of the service they go around you know to the town and and um you know collect the debris that folks leave out on the sides and the roads and things of that nature so so it is considered a valuable resource to the town overall um but you know whether or not we approve through oper funds that's a whole separate discussion itself yeah so when we go through the recommendation um because we'll need to you know both to recommend or to not recommend the the capital planning committee's uh recommendations and so uh the Opera stuff is so muchat separate so we can always you know caveat that say uh we don't approve that that's piece of it so or or do approve so we can take a vote separately um for that as well yeah but like I say I'm looking at freeing up 64,000 of our free cash you know out of the 5944 and moving that into our um S I see your hand up I guess but also wanted to ask you a question I guess is what's the is there any limitations I guess or of us using the Opera funds to purchase a police vehicle directly I guess or that I'm not sure of basically the oper funds are approved by the selectman so you could recommend but it's it's their discretion yeah right the OPA funds um I just wanted to give you the number for the chapter 90 uh the last few years we've gotten $267,800 uh $685 from chapter 90 we got a little extra this year um the state put out a second payment of about 135 but it's not a lot of money because everything costs so much to I mean I think he was saying what was it like 385,000 to pave a mile or it might even be more so but we're looking at about 500,000 for road maintenance Paving if we depend on how much extra funding we get in chapter 90 yeah right and the extra isn't guaranteed every year correct right yeah we definitely need to have money for road paving there's no doubt about it um but like I say I'm just really concerned with 84,000 in there for a wood chipper but I really feel that we can do something different with it as tight as we're trying to keep things and um as tight as the money is um we just really need to knuckle down on it and I know we've got to spend this arpa money this year um this coming year um so I understand that but just sour taste spending it on a wood chipper yeah yeah so we can we can ask we can bring it up in our joint session with the selectman on uh on Wednesday and uh see what the rationale was for for it and and just have some further discussion around it I guess as well as part of that meeting um thank you definitely a question to to table I guess Frank and um you know for Wednesday but but definitely something we can spend some time talking through yeah if we can understand that um Insurance regarding the mold uh remediation at the firehouse as well that's 100K right there yeah so we can ask them about that I guess um I mean so what do we we want to do I guess do we want to take a vote on the the capital plan or we want to defer this I guess to to Wednesday I would defer it to Wednesday based on the question yeah great okay yeah do it all in the same night let's do it all together you know yeah yeah okay okay all right so any other questions or anything on the summary as of now no okay but it's good to see the the 510 there um plan you know to see the numbers um yeah it definitely is um it definitely is good but it's also concerning at the same time right just because um you know we have some big challenges coming up so sure but we need to know the we need to know that now and not later you know exactly we need plan start planning for yeah exactly totally agree with you there uh it's just a bit of a bummer I guess for this year because we can't our hands are pretty much tied right trying to like really address anything ideally what we want to do or or what I've been pushing for on an annual basis is to take a haircut off of our free cash and put that into the stabilization fund and so we've done that the last couple years that's a good thing to do right to keep building that up um and then adding this secondary you know um or standing up a secondary account or Capital account that can um you know start being um invested to uh just to carry these forward I guess would you know is ideal but again you know we have some big challenges this year hopefully we'll be in a better state next year and can get back on track with our uh stabilization haircut and then start moving some money in because yeah once we once we get to like fiscal 27 and stuff we have some of these bigger ticket items kind of popping up and the ambulance is going to certainly be due by then as well and um you know just we we'll never have the amount of free cash in a given year to to cover some of these big ticket items so unless we start saving you know um now or or should have been saving in the past even years ago um to fund some of these is um the only way the only way we're gonna fund this stuff so but like say it's it's it's nice to see this spreadsheet to it's good yeah yeah totally agree yeah um so this will be part of the annual process going forward um so you know some of these numbers will shift ever but you know each year you know we'll get it published out to the uh to the drive so everybody has access to it um all right so that was that was the review and the vote on the the capital planning committee recommendations so we defer that to Wednesday for the further discussions um next up was the finance committee review and vote on the town articles so I just have a draft here so it's uh again it's very much a draft so just keep that in mind I guess looking at this because um still very much very much in flux given the uh situation we are in with the school budget and everything uh but there's a number of um items in here that we want to just kind of review and and we can vote on to um start moving forward with some of the stuff because we're we're way behind this year given the situation so just real quick while you're doing that yeah Chief didn't we buy the uh pickup truck with ARA funding yes we did yeah so we can buy a police vehicle with arpa is that how is that how you did them in h Brook as well Bill the truck was bought with k oh n in NOA allow us to do that yeah s's correct yeah I uh it was the co stuff but it was K yeah it was from K and the Opera does have different rules than the kids I'm not sure that we can't do it but yeah I'm not sure either it's definitely a good question Frank we can you know we we can bring it up on Wednesday yeah would think there's no rules in there stating buying a wood chipper but I may be wrong over a police cruiser or something you know this isn't [Laughter] Fargo all right can everybody see my screen okay yes yeah all great so um so this is the like that rough draft of the um of the warrant so um you know everything in red is going to be changed right so this is the budget stuff but it's just uh you know from past year so all of this is going to be refreshed but uh we want to just go through some of these articles and just um you know make our our votes now um to some of them where we can uh so the first article here is just to hear and act on the reports of the Town officers and committees uh so it'll basically be once the and so the warrant's going to be um you know need to be printed next week right so we're like really really up against the gun here to which is why we want to like make some progress on voting these now uh which will take a few items off of the table for Wednesday's meeting which I expect to be pretty long um so the first one is just to hear and act on the reports of the town offices and committees which is going to be uh the review of the Articles and and in the um the budget itself once we have the finalized numbers that we agree to and get dropped in here so um so I guess what we want to do is just you know vote to recommend these or not to recommend so um I guess would somebody like to make a motion on article one to recommend um shov you Michael thank you Cheryl uh roll call vote uh Frank article one yes Jim article one yes Bill yes PJ yes Michael Yes Cheryl yes and I am a yes as well motion carries 7 to zero to recommend article number one uh so article number two is uh so this is the changes as made from the uh that we voted in as part of the wage and Personnel uh meeting so these are the the the changes to the um salaries here so um would somebody like to make a motion to recommend article um number two so moved second thank you Michael thank you Bill uh roll call vote Frank is this for the entire wage and Personnel that's the 105,000 no so I believe he doesn't have the details in here but you guys when you met you voted the 2% Coler you voted um a couple of the other I'm trying to remember the extra personal day the we did it was the B yes sorry I kind of mixed these two together and so the co so the the col that Cindy's referring to that's part of the article three as well the article two itself is just remember we went through and we approved the bylaw changes um it's part of session so that's what needs to be updated here so to s's point it's not actually dropped in here but we did if you want to wait on two and maybe on Wednesday he can bring the the details the exact things that were changed at that meeting yeah because we bounced a lot of things around in there yeah all right so we can defer that one one yeah on on article two to you have the more details on it article three though that's the um and this is your your article it's for the elected officials and that is the 2% Coler for them yeah the 2% Coler is here so um so would somebody like to make a motion to recommend article number three I'm moved second Micha thank you Bill uh roll call vote Frank yes on article three please Jim um the that's a 2% Cola for the town clerk 57 to 76 $20,000 and the stepping she actually went to 70 for 24 it's the step in the Coler yeah it's not just Coler hours were increased um that that number is incorrect on that that's why it's still in red that number was never moved over got it okay then then yes on article three thank you Jim um Bill yes EJ yes Cheryl yes Michael yes and I am a yes as well article three carry 7 to zero uh let's see article four is going to be hold yeah because it's the operating budget which we still need to work through and agree on um before we can vote it here um Article Five this is the revolving accounts that we have to vote the amount every year yeah the spending limit yeah and this is unchanged from last year right Sandy right yeah it's fine yeah all right so uh would somebody like to make a motion to recommend article number five so moved before Todd before we and vote on this one here do we so can this potentially change at all with all of the other budget stuff that we're working on or is the spending limit kind of set in stone and we can't no it's set in stone yeah okay [Music] yeah um all right sorry go ahead JY yeah I was just going to explain Ed these revolving accounts there for like for planning to have a review engineer look at a site the money comes in from the applicant and then we spend it and then they put spending limits on it I'm not even sure why but the state requires spending limits but it really just depends on how busy most of these limits are way above what we go through in a year anyways awesome thanks Cindy okay no good good question EJ any other questions on Article Five okay all right we have so we have a motion from Cheryl to recommend is there a second second thank you Michael uh roll call vote Frank yes on Article Five Jim yes on Article Five Bill yes EJ yes Cheryl yes Michael yes and I am yes as well motion carries uh 7 to Z uh okay so let see article so this is so this is the annual transfers right Sandy for the this is the reserve fund yeah so we put 75,000 in from the general and 50,000 in for water and we do it every year we seem to be able to still stay within those numbers and it's for unforeseen and extraordinary events or or um issues so any questions on this one from anyone no hearing none I guess would somebody like to make a motion then to recommend article six so moved thank Michael thank you Cheryl roll call vote Frank yes on article six yes article six Bill yes EJ yes Cheryl yes Michael yes and I am a yes as well motion carries 7 to zero uh so next up is article seven this one is the um the pilot so payment in Le of taxes that we discussed so again the I think the contract is still under negotiation and you know more to be discussed here so I think we'll uh we'll save this one for um for Wednesday as well we can ask Cody what the update is update is there and um and the additional questions that you raised earlier Frank as well um all right so that was Article seven was a deferment uh number eight is our Capital plan so again we'll defer this one to uh Wednesday as well I'll um I'll send a summary of the questions to uh Cody as well post this uh meeting so that way he has them and um can be prepared to respond to the direct questions so uh number nine is going to be um the community preservation act uh um suggest you hold this one as well yeah we'll defer this one to um to Wednesday as well so we can have some discussion on this item uh let's see um all right so article number 10 oh so this is the the annual well the next two 10 and 11 are are the same not the same but annual yeah and 12 yeah so these are just annual uh amounts so 3,500 um to support the South Coastal legal Services uh which are you know supports free legal services in civilian matters to Elders long families Etc uh and then very similarly uh same dollar amount to the social resource and Advocacy Center for domestic violence um and then 150 for the use of the trustees um it's pouth County Cooperative Extension Services um might the thing I know most about that is the 4 Club but it's um Plymouth County extension services Okay sandy excuse me Sandy on articles 10 and 11 do people actually utilize those funds yes they do they do so they we actually this is this is um like we we sign a contract that allows them to it allows residents from h effects to use these services and they do get used yes yeah I know that um former police chief used to um really advocate for the um the domestic violence one I guess a lot of times they use it through the police and I guess on that note I guess on that note I guess Sandy has have these funds been depleted in past years I I think we've kept it at 3500 for the last several years at least as long as I've right now that we haven't been asked to to do more so okay all right so we still feel 3500 is more than adequate okay um any other questions on 10 11 12 for anyone no okay hearing none I guess then would somebody like to make a motion to uh recommend articles 10 11 and 12 so move thank you Michael thank you Bill uh roll call vote Frank yes on articles 10 11 and 12 Jim yes on 10 11 and 12 Phil yes on all three EJ yes Cheryl yes Michael yes I am a yes as well motion carries 7 to Z uh all right so let's see so then number 13 is next um can you refresh me on this one Sandy what's the background on this one the $15 so currently The Collector charges a $5 Demand on late payments so if you don't pay your excise bill or your trash bill or your water bill they put out a demand and um charge $5 for that well other towns charge like 15 20 $25 so when we were asked to look at your fees and update them uh The Collector The treasur Collector felt that we should up it to $15 the demand fee so if you don't pay your bill on time we charge you the $15 and then interest well it's a onetime fee of 15 plus one time fee right plus interest on the bill itself y y on the principle of the bill yeah so Sandy where does that where would foot put us in I know some some others charge 2025 I think we're the lowest around right now EJ yeah most of the towns charge at least 15 so we're getting up to just go going up to about what most of the towns charge but we did have a neighboring town that charges 25 yeah I was going to say why are we stopping at 15 if it's if it's coming into we don't I it might be a little culture shock we were right up to 25 we felt 15 to be reasonable but we can go up to 40 according to the section right I'm not sure I I I'm relaying information that I was in a discussion with but yeah should be more or a perative bill that's just my opinion yeah I'm with you Jim that's why I asked well if we do the 15 we are still charging them interest and it's pretty high interest rate too so and so Sandy this one would would go into effect as of July 1 20 yes okay yeah okay um okay any other questions comments on Article 13 hearing none and would somebody like to make a motion then to recommend article number 13 no moved second you Cheryl thank you Michael uh roll call vote uh Frank yes on Article 13 Jim yes on Article 13 Bill yes on Article 13 yes EJ yes Cheryl yes Michael yes and I am a yes as well motion carries uh 70 um all right so article 14 so article 14 is the um so it relates to the school which is as you know kind of still up in the air but this one I think we can vote on this was for the um the request for them from them to um appropriate um is this he has this so there's two pieces right so Sandy this this itself is just a part-time but they had for the full the parttime SRO at the middle school yeah is this a DARE officer like a DARE officer it's not a DARE officer no it's school resource officer right school resource off is that just a town share or all three towns are pay that's that is our so is that is that a percentage so what percentage of the hole is that all right so kingon funds a full-time SRO for the high school okay they do that out of the goodness of their hearts um Silver Lake has asked Plimpton and Halifax to fund a part-time officer at the middle school the 39 is 2third of the cost of the part-time officer Plimpton is being build onethird so a part-time officer is going to cost over $90,000 a year 39 is two3 so then um about 19 is coming from Clinton 60,000 about yeah yeah 60 15 yeah 60 60 yeah in here Bill even if it's part time you're paying $60 an hour it be like 40 that's a lot of money that's yeah that's expensive way way they asked for they they asked us to consider full-time the full-time would have been 78,000 for us um Cody chose not to even put that one in the warrant because yeah it's it's too much we fund this out of Raisin appropriate because it seriously is a a budget item that they want to come out of our our budget every year so we have been funding it out of raise inappropriate it is a lot of money um for a part-time my understanding and if Chief shavs is still on my understanding is we're paying an overtime rate for this officer but so so he's working a regular shift and then going to the school um something like that or he's assigned he's assign but yeah he's assigned to the so uh this has been very controversial um you know since since they brought this up I I've written letters to to to the um Civil Lake um you know school committee you know indicating that I I wasn't in favor of it um you know the as I value the SRO position I I think that the officer that that's at the high school does a great job um and I couldn't kind of and I asked for activity numbers and and different things to show that why couldn't an officer that's assigned to the high school full-time right walk over literally some 100 yards and check in on on the Middle School um you know we have um so I know that's another school district the old Rochester school district um they're have the same kind of similar situation ation where the high school and the middle school are right next to each other and they have one officer assigned and he kind and you know they let's say they'll um you know I don't know Monday Monday Wednesday Friday they spend time at the high school Tuesday Thursday they spend time at at the middle school but obviously again you know it all it all depends on on what uh you know the the the new cycle and things happen at schools and then that goes to the Forefront youly every obviously everybody has um you know opinions on school safety uh and uh I think is Paramount but I think um it it's something to be looked at the problem that we have is that if Kingston and and blinton okay it we have to kind of you know fall in line with it because you know other District so it's one of those things that 'll keep coming up every year yeah from what I yeah but from what I understand it so that officer think now and I haven't I haven't um I haven't gone to any of the uh I haven't gone to one of the safety meetings at the high school in a long time I believe he is full-time there so they have a um you know be between um what we pay and then what the king Clinton pays they're financing the officer to be there um you know pretty much every day you know every every day of the week and and obviously you know they're as busy as as as any other rest I would any school and but uh you know it's one of those things you know like when you ask ask for activity reports for for for the the the high school guy you know what is he doing what programs is he doing in there or he's just you know kind of walking around you know uh when're not getting those reports so right it's difficult we have we have one guy for 1,200 students so that's there's no reason he can't walk over to other school right we only have 541 so all together yeah right there's 1500 people 1543 to be exact at Silver Lake Regional High School yeah so yeah so the so the request was the full-time officer which was a 78 which um you know Cody went back to them right away and told him we wouldn't be able to afford that this article 14 is what we currently do today so it' be continuing to that um if folks feel strongly to revisit it we can um you know have some discussion T there's one more thing Kingston's bring on a new Chief this week um so you don't know what he's gonna want to do if he's even gonna want to go down this road yeah he's sist out this week oh really yeah he's getting one in next next week I believe yeah um he's a deputy in ston correct yep so the other thing I'm not sure of Sandy is like the voting of this I guess is this in the this isn't in the contract as a whole I guess right because Kingston has no skin in the game on this one it's just really Halifax and Clon so on this um the first year it was proposed ppon voted yes and Halifax voted no so they just used the SRO for enough you know to use up The Plimpton money so he was y we vote no on this they just don't have the money to do as many was right so I think there is an opportunity um so in this specific scenario we're not held to the two3 um vote right so if we if we want if we disapprove of this you know we we would take that funding back I guess um and you could always not recommend it and it goes to town meeting and it could be voted anyways I think happened the second year the second year the finance committee did not recommend and the town's people voted for it yeah exactly yeah we would keep it as son as an article and so it's just rather it's a matter of do we recommend or not I guess um right so I mean well I guess any other further questions or comments before we move to a vote here go ahead Cheryl does he work 40 hours a week at the school I do not know times so and we're actually when we're build with Builder As a detail so maybe that's what I'm getting it I think it's a detail rate is what we pay sounds like yeah I think you're you're right s well we're not even getting we're not they're not even giving the the the our police chief like data on what he's doing right yeah yeah which is which goes back to the earlier discussion right um so why we never recommended it before right so I mean so you guys can either vote on this tonight or if you want to hold off and discuss it more on Wednesday that's up to you yeah what's the consensus I guess do we want to defer this or or take a vote now I guess take a vote yeah I agree with FR take a vote yeah because either way we just we vote our recommendation um yeah everybody comfortable making the vote yeah okay all right so I'm just gonna entertain a vote then to uh recommend article number four with some like to make a motion 14 Todd sorry what did I say four oh I'm sorry yeah four 14 I apologize would somebody like to make a motion to recommend article 14 hearing none would somebody like to make a motion to not recommend article 14 thank you Frank think Cher I get you as a second I know those others too but um roll call vote I guess uh Jim uh not uh vote to not recommend article 14 uh Bill not recommend yes Michael not recommend yes DJ not recommend uh Cheryl not recommend Frank not recommend article 14 and I am a no as well to not recommend uh so uh that passes seven to zero we not recommendation okay all right so number 15 then arle number 15 moving onward is um no so this is Rel yeah go ahead yeah Cody has asked you to hold off on this one we don't have a firm figure this is the system that we funded last year for $100,100 for um NH HVAC through the money that we have in the stabilization account that was put aside for Silver Lake um we have heard that it's going to cost more than what they had thought but we do not have a firm figure on how much more so Cody is hoping to get that if not tonight so Tom so Sandy we we approved the dollars for last fiscal year and they done nothing with it no no so why should we why do we well the system by by the time that from my understanding is by the time that they went out to bid and um got the prices it came in higher than they had approval for so they had been they the other two towns actually voted some of their Opera money so it wasn't as easy as saying you know we need this much more they have to go back and get opera money for it again and they went through the county to get the Opera money so um but we don't have a definite figure on the amount so that's that's the my understanding on this one right now I thought we thought they had two units going in last year the one which was a lower priced unit or something yeah right they were originally going to ask for 200,000 something we were going to fund it with the rest of the money that was put aside for Silver Lake um and then they asked for only half of it so but now they they do need more I'm not sure how much more yeah and they did nothing with the money we funded with last year they didn't get it sitting in our bank yeah right okay I don't know i' vote on it now I asked that you hold off let's see what what we find out um as far as it a definite number yeah irresponsible okay yeah we'll defer this to uh Wednesday I guess as well but yeah just another item where we just we're lacking I think some clarity on uh from the school on some items here um okay all right hopefully we can get that cleared up on on Wednesday uh so that was it for the um the draft warrant so I'll um I'll go to back to Cody on um didn't we have what was 16 I think that's to hold the election yeah oh is that what that is yeah it is it's just yeah yeah yeah yeah all right so that's it for for that um so next up on the agenda then was uh Reserve fund transfer requests we have none yeah we good there uh committee L lays on updates I don't know was there anything anyone to share we have our bylaw tomorrow night oh you do okay yeah Tuesday night yeah busy busy week for you guys huh yeah okay um all right so that was the Le on updates uh so correspondence I haven't seen any has anyone else received anything no okay as may arise any other topics to cover no uh um next up is public participation anything from anyone no okay all right so then moving along is uh the next meeting planning so uh again the next meeting is uh Wednesday April 3D on site at the Town Hall uh the time has shifted around a few time so hopefully you've seen my latest email it's um now settled on 6:30 and so30 now 6:30 p.m. yep um so the idea there being that we kick off as a joint meeting with the selectman at 6:30 uh have some discussion maybe talk about some of these topics uh in advance of the uh school committee coming on at 7M and then going through their budget um you know and and all the questions that kind of come along with that and then from there uh making our final recommendations on the budget so there'll probably be a relatively long meeting I Envision because there's a lot kind of for us all to get through usually we do that over several nights and we have to kind of like cram it all in uh starting at you know 800 PM Plus whenever school committee completes their presentation I guess so um so we'll have to kind of work through that on Wednesday uh but then that will be it right so from there we'll um the warrant will get you know print it and and go out and um and then our meeting uh you know May May 13 so um so that's really the plan there we will have we'll we'll keep our scheduled meetings um in between just in case anything comes up from Reserve fund transfer things of that nature um so we might be able to scale them back as as we um get closer to the dates but we'll keep the schedule regular schedule as is for now anyways so next Monday night or no yes yeah yeah for now we'll we'll plan to unless something changes between now and then you know certainly let you know but as of now yeah I say let's continue to um plan on meeting on Monday so okay okay and so uh anyone have any challenges with getting on site uh this Wednesday at 6:30 everyone on site right yeah on site y good okay okay all right awesome all right so that brings us to the end of the agenda um would somebody like to make a motion to adjourn so move second thank you Michael thank you Bill uh roll call vote Frank yes to adjourn Jim yes for adjournment Cheryl yes EJ yes Bill yes Michael yes and I am a yes as well motion carries 7 to zero meeting is adjourned at 7:33 pm thank you everybody have a good night guys good [Music] night [Music]