good evening I'm called the meeting into order this is a meeting of the hamon board of selectman and Board of Health being held in the townhouse on April 22nd 2024 at 6: p.m. this meeting is being conducted in person and remotely using video conferencing please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance my pledge of Al to the flag of United States America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and all thank you is anyone recording the meeting other than ourselves dalon yes no I'm sure he is good to see him sure okay all right uh we have minutes yep okay a regular meeting of March 26 2024 did the plge we uh govern study committee that completed their report did some minutes the Autobon Society was here and they'll be uh to talk about some trees and the spongy moth they they'll be back tonight shared Health Services was here uh great horse was change of manager the water district discussion Casino funding reallocation the annual town meeting warrant budget review a one- day liquor permit for the senior center again and uh like reports motion to approve second all in favor all right and we have executive session minutes of March 26 2024 um this is regard to the uh negotiation with the police Union so a lot of not really decision in this minute more status just status and in just back and forth all right motion to approve without release second all in favor okay uh the ne Mass aabon Society are you on Jonah is we're here yep good evening good evening yeah thanks thanks for having us back um I this time I brought my colleague Tom here uh who's our senior conservation ecologist uh I'm back a little sooner than I had thought I so last time I was here I was planting the seeds for this idea of a project uh that we're hoping to do at the LA laen Brook Wildlife Sanctuary that extend that if if an agreement from the town would extend onto the town parcel there uh back behind the school so east east of uh big Brook there's u a parcel that abuts Mass aabon Land on three sides um and so I planted the seed last time of maybe we would uh maybe it would make sense for us to extend that project that we're looking to do at Laughing Brook uh onto the town parcel um and I'm back so soon because we're looking at a funding opportunity that's coming up a deadline's coming up for the next couple of weeks that we're looking to apply to um and we wouldn't we wouldn't need to have a agreement in place but we would need to have just know that you that you would approve such a thing um uh us us doing this project on the town parcel so I came uh tonight just to one to bring Tom who could answer your questions a little bit a little more detail about what the project looks like um and then also just talk about what the next steps would be for us to get that that approval from the town um so I thought if Tom Tom maybe could give it just a quick description of the project that's a little little better than I gave last time well thanks Jonah and good evening everybody again I'm Tom lson Heiser senior conservation ecologist with mass aaban based here in East Hampton um I don't know if I have the ability to share my screen but I do have a map yeah hold on one second hold on he'll give it to you what's the cat's name this is Maggie the only cat I'm not allergic to lucky for me um I guess I want to say you know we do have this funding opportunity is coming up but um even with that this work may not happen for another year two or or even more so it's it's very uh preliminary kind of conceptual um idea that we're that we're presenting here um oh I can share my screen let me I'll pull up this map uh here we go so you know this isn't necessarily the most detailed map but it it does show a little bit about what we have in mind here and what this is showing is there's there's a number of different areas like here's this area listed as D T1 here's T2 T3 t before and you'll notice that a couple of these polygons the dark black line is the mass autobond boundary and this parcel here that's coming that extends into the sanctuary that also includes this cross-hatching is uh part of that part of the Town property there behind the school um so our there's a a a few different uh actions that we're intending to do over the next couple years one of which is uh invasive plant management um along the big Brook uh riparian Corridor or along the brook and that obviously includes this section of land of the Town land so that would be um potentially cut stem treatment with herbicide maybe not right in this General vicinity because there's the drinking water well but farther up um and then there's this this polygon T2 represents a forest management project um which is a a Pitch Pine Oak Heath Land Management that's sort of building off of uh our situation at the site where uh so many oak trees were killed by uh recent the recent infestation of spongy moth that we thought while we're getting heavy equipment forestry equipment in there to do to improve the situation with those dead trees we could also sort of further open the forest up to to uh promote uh Pitch Pine heathland uh plant Community there which would support a number of the rare and uncommon species that occur uh at Laughing Brook that's that's sort of the that's sort of the overview um and I'm glad you know to to answer more specific questions if people have them so Jonah if you have anything to contribute to that it's okay two thing how much is the property are the town property you know how how many square feet or how many um I'll find that out here quickly uh the whole area so the area that included the um you know he did it with the that invasive treatment would be along you know to the brook and maybe even to the west of the brook but the forest management was just on the the eastern part of that parcel um so the oops the whole the whole area that we're talking about is 14 acres um but the just that that section east of the brook is you know is more like seven or less it's more like yeah four three or four four right yeah four but but not but not all of it's on Town property that that four right no no that's that's the town that's the part that's on the town property about about about four would would include be included in this Forest management part of it yeah in the for what about the invasive species management I'm concerned about the herbicides yeah right so I think I don't think we would propose using herb herbicides on the town property because it's Town property iite inside around the well area well that's what I was going to ask we have public Wells there that are on Laughing Book property part of the E with um numerous acres and then we also have a lot of residents in that area with you know some shallow Wells and whatnot so you know the the use of herbicides in general kind of concerns me obviously we would be very careful about proposing well we wouldn't propose the use of any herbicides within uh you know any area affected by by drinking water supply right so what's what's the radius around a public drink public water supply because there's you know the registered public water supply there on Laughing Book grounds which is very close to where be doing this management right I don't know if it's 400 foot offset I don't I don't recall off the top of my head but luckily most of the plants that we're trying to deal with here at least in that section of the property is um Japanese Barberry which herbicide is a effective Tool uh to manage Barberry but it can also be treated with um uh people use like a drip torch essentially to burn the root collar and uh and is if that's adequately singed then it can kill the plant without resprouting um so that's an alternative method that can be done in you know that's protective of uh is that that is that that plant that winds around the trees that's uh roundleaf bitter Suite is the vine that's everywhere yes everywhere you also talked about the forest management plan will that do anything about keeping Laughing Brook open more I've had a few residents ask uh you know why why are they closing this all of a sudden and I know it was because of some of the the trees from the Gypsy Moths and whatnot but does that plan Encompass any of that you know deforestation to help alleviate the closure of the Laughing bir property it it does it does and the the the the trick for us is balancing um how to get that work done in in a in a coste effective manner um because basically there's no no little or no uh economic value to to the standing dead Oaks that are right now presenting a public health health or public safety risk which is why the sanctuary has been closed uh on on Windy days um but if we expand the management footprint to include this Oak Pitch Pine area there are some trees and it's not a lot but it's a a little bit of an offset um in in in that section of forest to that would have some value that would have some some economic value to offset the sort of negative econ economic value of of the dealing with the uh The Oaks they were killed by spongy moth um and this this grant opportunity that uh Jonah has mentioned is uh is part of nrcs um equip or Environmental Quality incentive program um that will pay private land owners to to do conservation practices on their property and some of those comp conservation prct practices include uh Forest stand management um so we can get a little bit of support for that work um and hopefully you know pay pay for the the all of the activities um is right now just hiring a a private logger to come out and do that work without that support um is financially not possible I for us so the parcel is uh 19 acres and you're talking about the West part of it you know or sorry East part of it Eastern part yeah yeah I mean obviously Craig brings up the concern we have for the scanic valley well that's on the lon property but we also have a public water supply well on our property that supplies the school and that's the reason we actually bought that parcel from Bill Bureau uh 20s something years ago so I think the herb side part that Craig talks about is important to us I forry management honestly you guys are better that right you know if you need an easement from the town to do the the Pine Tree Management and you're all set with conservation that you know you're not I don't if you need a uh you know not required type thing or something like that from them you can he a forest cutting plan would be what would be needed you that would be reviewed by by the Conservation Commission right you know the process through that I think uh none of us have an opposition to maintaining I mean it present it uh it takes care of any fire danger it allows you to take care of any dead trees stuff like that I think we're all in favor of that type of thing I I I don't want to say I I'm sorry that I brought the herbicide question up because I didn't we would not be using herbicides in any area we would not be proposing or thinking about herbicides in an area that's a public drinking water supply um so you know we are considering herbicide use in other sections of the property you know I wanted to give you that the whole sort of that big picture but no concern me too though because the way the the aquifer plumes go or they're coming from from north to south pretty much so if you're doing them up there it's going to drift down well yes and no I think there what's important is the choice of chemical and a lot of these herbicides um tightly bind to soil and so they don't move once you've applied them also the the method of application these cut stem treatments that we'd largely be doing on these shrubs um it's a direct you know direct contact with the with the freshly cut surface of the plant and there's really no no chemical like so this isn't something the soil you're saying it's not a permeating type thing into the groundwater right that's right it a topical application right and to the extent that it any contacts the soil it binds with the soil and then gets broken down through um you know microbial processes so there's there some herbicides that do that have the have the capability of leeching into you know groundwater aquifers and get into Wells and I'm super sensitive to that we would never be proposing the use of an herbicide you know that that had that potential in this sensitive area um in the application of it you're saying you're not just spraying it like they used to doing the uh right wres away for the utility companies you're you're it's more more specific application if you ever if you ever play Bingo and you if you're familiar with those dot Stampers yeah basically they make something like that called a are are making are you making reference to my age no we know what you're talking about you got the doers 20 of in front of me but there's there's something called a Buckthorn Blaster that's basically that dot kind of tool only you fill it with herbicide so you cut cut the stem you cut the stem and you hit with the Bingo D you cut the stem you dot it you dot it with that and it's like there's virtually no no herbicide right it just it hits the stem it just stays there you you you have a little a little die that marks it as as oh I I treated that one and that's it you're done um on the on the cambian you're sorry you opened that door aren't you I I didn't we wouldn't we wouldn't be doing any herbicide treatment in in a public drinking water supply area you know and I and I do appreciate that you know big comes down and you know the water is going to be passing by the wells um you know and and I can say is you know farther up the only herbicide we would be proposing would be material that binds what's the name of the herb what's the name of the herbicide um I think that the herbicide that doesn't leech is is glyphosate and I know a lot of people are upset about glyphosate use but one of its primary uh benefits is that it binds to soil okay and you'll give us notification when you're going to do that application if you do it this is again this is all conceptual so yes anything you know that we do you know certainly it would require Conservation Commission review yeah uh in near Wetlands or within 200 ft of the brook um but we're really we're just trying to get our hands around this now conceptually and trying to understand you know what the town might might think is okay to do and so forth because a lot of this invasive plant you know invasive plants don't uh go away they don't go away and they don't follow property l yeah um so if we if we just deal with the stuff that's on our property and leave your you know the adjacent property untreated then we just have you know a seed source and and a spread you know spreading source that doesn't really fully solve the problem so that's that's why we're looking at this really at all is that we're trying to you know treat this on a more comprehensive manner yeah Jonas so what do you need from us basically what John said I mean if that's that's the case that you're all in agreement that the forest management is would be okay for us to do I think that's the main thing for us to know at this point we we're not gonna we're not going to go out and cut tomorrow like Tom said we have many steps to go so I think what would happen next is we're going to look for funding we're gonna apply for funding if we can get it then we' come back to you and talk about the details of what what type of agreement we conceptu I mean like you said it has to go through Conservation Commission you know after us anyway so you more of the questions and concerns to raise and and I think you know uh you know speaking from experience people don't like a lot of change especially in in around you know Forest management and cutting trees um it can often be you know a sensitive issue and so we you know we try to um you know hold P site walks and and you know a meeting at the library and you know in communities that where we've done this kind of work before um we do try to make it an effort at at public Outreach to just you know as we're as we're sort of developing the concepts and kind of getting more confident that it's going to happen um we do you know put a put a an press release and so forth to try to um solicit opinions before anything really happening and to understand you know feedback and sensitivity to your point I think you know the forest management is key that's especially you know now with the wet year we've had where we are now you know everything's rotting and falling down we're are one dry summer away from a a bad event happening so it's definitely definitely needed and and you know for me like every time I go down there it's like wow you know there's a lot of dead wood hanging above our trails and um you know we we're trying to be responsible about about closing the sanctuary when we feel like there's a there's a major risk okay what one note about that too we did change since last time I came we are now um closing the trails and not the sanctuary so that people can still come in and enjoy the picnic area and go next to the pond because the hazard is not there the hazards once you go into the woods um so we were closing it at the gate which we realized was not necessary so now we're leaving the gate open and just Clos putting a sign at the trails uh at the bridge there going into the woods so folks can still come in and enjoy the entry area there okay very good couple other questions um I know there's a MVP thing happening tomorrow where does that happen at your property is it out in the parking lot is it is a public parking lot area Y is it so just stand around and fly in the wall basically I think they're looking for Community input so that I think that you know this is run by this Conway School of landscape design and so you know they they have a they're required as a part of their graduate program to run Community engagement programs and so they're going to be having they're going to be looking for to be involved with input on on and we're going to be there so we'll see you in person there if you're there uh the other question did John was looking for some help cont we have um a water project going on which is going to require some um changes to the um Pump Station and Wells on the the property over there we need a contact person to get a hold of just for notice of intents and stuff do you have any names you can email us of somebody we can get a contact with for the property uh with with mass automon with us yeah yeah yeah yeah you can send that to me and I will get it to the right I can get it to the right folks depending on what's needed yeah and John John has my email um yeah Lauren you do too I think right okay yeah all right good we're good all right thank you thank you great thanks for your time yeah appreciate it be well okay uh next item on your agenda is police uh purchase of pistols but that's off the agenda because the uh advis committee is not recommending that for this this time around I would also make the point that I think uh we could do we could recommend to if they can really validate the fact that it's a uh a need they do have plenty of money in that off duty account which they've used in the past for the cruiser purchase is there sufficient funds in there you think well there's 60 to 70 right I think he was looking for 20 right 20 yeah yeah my gosh all the work at the intersection that's probably going up you know thousands every week there's a lot of guys out there lot of guys out there sure uh next item is just we had received notification official notification of the hon wilham Regional School District assessment letter the town's assessment for U 2025 is 8,834 $181 and also the they also they have an article for a capital expenditure for um uh wireless access points and the Our Town share is 43,2 79 so that's just official notification of that dispatch and Don you made the point before that's going the regional agreement shows a different calculation yeah on the minog capital needs correct right and they're adhering to that now right right they're adhering to that the calculation is in the past we were based on the total number of students but the the contract says the calculation will be on the number of hon students in actually in minich as opposed to the number of wilham students not the whole student population so it's a little it's a little bit different about about half of half a percentage point to our benefit the other thing is that I always have been questioned thing is is that we've been paying eight times a year and the contract says we should pay four times a year and I talked to the treasure and he's amiable to you know they just started doing that as a uh but I thought maybe if we kept the money in a little bit longer we could get some interest on it so that's I know dick said it came that started before him so 18 years ago started all right dispatch there we is hi Tony I'm here hello hi hey Tony I haven't seen you in a while so I decided to come in person thanks good to see you got that map and everything this is I brought this it just looks like it's just blank paper so I look important you got the shirt we don't even have shirt you should want going to buy you some under $50 thanks what's the deal what do you want to know uh did you get a copy of that I have a copy okay uh so first line you got change your date there you got 23 it should be 24 I think oh yeah yeah yeah um yeah I I'll not that you have a pen real quick thank you so this was done up by I think the wilam the Belch toown and the wilham Town Council I even Council attorneys so I'll tell them about that I'm sure they that'll cost you $50 tell them it's all right I got it all right uh one number one right agreement say number one so the Preamble is fine in my opinion done the agreement one it says state agency approv for beler Town should it say after executing this agreement Bel town uh hamon and wilam fourth with play are we playing together or are you just playing uh it says build wilham will apply but should ham them be in there uh since we're already a pie app combined Pie app we just would have to apply to get them I've already got the okay from the state anyway so that's not that's that's pretty much move so we would just notify the state that uh what we're doing they already know expanding the P ex correct expanding the p app so handon doesn't have to because they already have so we would just be adding Bel to but I see what you're saying where it would throw you off how is the p app technically listed is it listed under wilham or is it listed wilham H uh the p app is listed wilham Regional so if anybody says I need handman it comes to us obviously okay uh under executive board yep Quorum and Quantum this is just a I think it says majority of four of the six voting members exec cons the Quorum all right however in the event of a minimum Quorum of four the affirmative vote of all four members presid being majority right and it says being a majority of all six okay shall be required when when the full six are there four right should there be a should there there say if there's five you still need four I would assume so yeah so are you uh marking these down because I think I'll have to have if you want to bring it to Nick and let Nick know but I'll definitely Mark him down and this what I'll okay I'll give it to bra yeah exactly yeah perfect okay all right all right what else I got here I think there's a provision here that says that uh we're actually going to pay you no I'm kidding we should I actually put that in and S it you better find it okay now here's the and do you have the old one with you yeah this is number fee for [Music] service so I need to figure this out here we need to figure this out does this follow the same model that we presented or we were under yeah yeah was four five six is it the same yeah everything's the same if you see if you look in um the answer your question look at one a yep just the addition yeah it says anything that it says there any receipt of State hand shall be deemed to include on All rights on obligation of hamon shall be deem the rights on obligation of okay so um where was I know so on fee for service mhm fee for service so on the old one it says for each fiscal year okay for him the fee shall be fixed 125,000 per year and the full uh should be proed by the municipal FIS year okay and and that the fee for 36 months of the operation they will be paid in full by the state Grant by wam then it says the fee will be paid by him then for a subsequent period of times but that's the state is paying 50% and 25% M so that's that's if you look at the new one it's they break that they they break it out yeah so I don't know if we need to year 1 2 3 450 yeah okay so what going into year four now you're going into year four so it would be 50% right correct yeah 50% and I would do that at the last two quarters the first two quarters I will have the state pay and then just so you know what's coming up the last two quarters I would get it from and then the last time the first quarter will get it from the St is there any chance with this new Grant round will they'll there's always a chance there's always a chance and I will definitely I will definitely I know that was one of your big points well listen basically the 250 and the 125 is a calculation of your expenses are you going to have a chance B after the first year with Bel toown said you know I look at our whole budget we hired a couple of new people but we were actually running this a little tighter than we thought our expenses low and so I did some calculations um when I hire three new people and our total budget is about $1.3 million that's all in um after the support incentive Grant we'll probably we'll probably get about $660,000 from the state for the support incentive Grant and the remainder would be the operating cost that the town would of wilham would um come in on uh I did some calculations with population and calls for service for each community and um wilam came up the highest with about almost $300,000 at there in for ham it was just under 125 and belr toown was just at 250,000 so I think where we are now is good but there is also possibility where all right you know what you did 10% more 911 calls this year you're going to get 10% more of that 660,000 M and it might you know it might bump us up it might bump us up to another category but I think when we have three pie apps we're in a higher tier to be able to obtain Grant fundings easier and more so that will work out for I mean that was your thing two three years ago the fact that you're saying the state wants you to they do merge up they always use that raindrop analogy y they want the little ones to become one bigger rain I think Don asked you last time we talked about this where would you go next and your point was I think you're so mobile you don't have to be contiguous correct you don't want to pick up now you don't want to pick up hoolio no but you also other smaller towns are looking for this type of service yes first there a sweet spot no I mean I think we're we're good at two I mean I don't I have an issue with two I think three makes us comptitive very competitive and if we were to get bigger I wouldn't do anything until after three fiscal years with Bel yeah there's talk of if we do get bigger we're going to need a new building whether that buildings in hamton wilam belter town wherever um we could reuse a town building that one of the communities owns the state may pay to have it revamped so you have a building that I can have but if the state comes back and say you know what if you were a fourtown peap we would cover 100% for the next three years that' be great you'd be hard pressed to say no I would be hard pressed to say no yes but one of the things I look for is I the first thing if I don't go out looking for communities to come into us they will ask us I've already turned away one Community I said not not right now a lot of different factors but uh belon came in I like to keep it I want to keep our regional center that's the word I'm looking for smaller Community Based whereas some other centers have large cities or larger municipalities I don't really want to I don't want to do that I want to keep it all three communities are kind of relatively exact I want to keep the you know belt huge land mass wise but it's a small town field just like hamton small town field wlam kind of same thing but with Boston Road but that's how I want to keep it I want to keep it like that I don't want a big municipality asking MH yeah that's the way I would keep it but yes I will definitely ask the state if we can at least do one more year at 100% if not maybe three more and you know they could say you know what do it all they can say is no all they can say is no yeah and we already know what's coming and if they say no then they say no but that doesn't mean that we can't use some grant funding to enhance some of hamon's infastructure when is Bel Town proposal going in effect and when would you know about funding from the state so um the development Grant I already turned in I turned that in um with the thought that belron was coming on we don't have any obviously don't have the IMA signed yet um I put in for um additional funds for additional dispatchers uh they need their radio uh infrastructure upgraded and a couple other things I put in there for smaller things I think there's some type of radio upgrade as well to make all of our Radio Systems combined to be linked as one so if hamon's radio system goes down now I can use State grant funding to repair it because it is a regional system it's a linked system you would never go to a a talk group like some of the other places do so there has been talk about using the state's 800 system to um put police and fire for each communities on there each Community would have their own talk group or two you know two for police two for fire so there has been some talk about that that doesn't I don't think that's coming anytime soon but what that might H what that might do is we would just uh rent out their radio system and then anything that happens to it they deal with it we we don't have to pay anything extra there's no service fee or anything we just pay a certain amount a month to the Commonwealth would that put all three of these communities on the same frequency then kind of like it would be on the state's uh trunk system kind of like when you listen to like wilam M msing it would be the same talk group I wouldn't put the police departments on the same no they everybody would be separate that's the way I want I don't I don't think that we should be putting two communities police departments on the same talk group or frequency because you know something could happen with one and the other doesn't know and right so I like the way we have now each Community has their own radio system but they're going to be linked together up on our Ridge Road so they're actually just one and not going to have him to pay for that okay now isn't there a state property up in pzer town does that mean you have interaction more with the state police or so there's a state police barrack C7 which is in Quin we can already talk directly to them right on there one of their um uh talk groups lps7 it's like the wiml for Central Mass so we already have that on our consoles right now it's actually in the console in hamon too because the console at ham and PD is a mirror or a sister of the ones that we have up in our Dispatch Center okay and I hear you're bringing us some Fiber too yes I talked to the uh contractor today they're starting the end of this week or early next week so it's going to link the police department in Hampton to the town hall to the fire department it's a 24 strand from the uh police station 12 will come here and 12 to the uh fire station in Hampton then that's linked back put it on the new polls please not on the old they I'll check that out later yeah we're going to put everything on the new poles actually that same company's coming at the same time to move the fiber to the new poles and just for verification That's not internet that's strictly public safy yeah yeah but uh what I plan on doing next fiscal year is ADD if unless I have some money left over I want to put a couple of cameras at the fire station uh one maybe in the bay or wherever just for security purposes one outside and I do want to put a phone outside of the uh door at the fire station just in case there's a medical emergency there and there's no uh staff on duty they can push the button or pick the phone up and it calls 911 uh I don't no I don't want to push cuz I mean obviously you're here we can offer you cookies if you want you a little bit but I love cookies we have the Highway Department right next door yeah what would it take for you to make a drop to the highway department I mean when they come up here we can ask them or I can just get it done later in the year it's not it's not a huge it's not a big hop right it's just right up the road Main Street you go out to the parking lot you can throw a rock and hit the building well what if we did 12 strands here 10 strands at the fire station and two at the highway department I mean you're the technical guy there I'm really not more than enough I would I can add and subtract so that's pretty much all I can do I can't divide but yeah yeah I don't see a problem or we just take 24 strands from where they break it off here and then just put it over there sure I mean that's not a far right no just a thought and money's No Object so okay we object money I want I want I want to do something with that the the fee for service thing just okay I don't know what though so maybe I'll sit with u Brian because I just want to I just want to make it clarified that somehow to clarify that it's the same for us too as it is for that yeah you know what I mean Oh you mean you want to make sure that it's the same 100% for the 3 years 50 and 25 yeah okay that's actually in the development Grant rules or guidelines I mean I can give you a copy of that if you want I just it's called out here but not in yeah so as well the ver mirror yeah that's all I got okay so when will you need action from us after do goes through his review and then we'll yeah I mean the sooner the better for the Ima to be signed by all communities I think delter Town's good with uh it they sent it to wilam wilham did theirs and they sent it to you for for hand to to look at but if you have those revisions I mean okay Brian we'll sit tomorrow okay um yeah um in the parking lot La yeah okay that's it we're good anything else thanks for stopping by thank you for having any info on getting MIM up on Z so I spoke with their um person that does that he saw the request that I sent to them and he's going to work on the next few days so hopefully soon should be good to go soon yeah but yeah no everything everything's good we appreciate you uh coming with us appreciate it thank still wait for my radio that's it yeah I'll get you one soon maybe with this next round of Grant fun we can get you one and we'll get down one too I don't even answer I answer my phone I'm not going to answer the radio yeah you will if I call you you will you did offer them cookies John so now you got to up that's right right over there I see cookies anymore nice shirt think s should have those don't you think think I think so I told them i' buy them but you have to be less than $50 have good night see you good night Cemetery Commissioners thanks for coming coming down people are dying to get in there tell yeah on no so and the reason I want to get together here is we're getting to the end of your terms and uh are you and no one signed up to run and does anyone have any intention of being written in I do not I can't Congratulations by the way in the heart spring thing thank you yeah look at your front center like it you did a nice job there I I'm on two committees the senior center and the library and plus my responsibilities at home are keeping me there longer so I can't Hearts drop yeah y but in the meantime um I mean if anybody comes in I certainly can come in and help them that isn't the problem um I and did you find a job post Brian for clerk that's right I asked him if there was one we desperately need a clerk hopefully would be nice if they came in before my term ended here two weeks three weeks three four about four after voting time um I don't know um if that's what we're going to have to do I don't know any other internal never mind we need another commissioner just for voting purposes to get things done yeah MH but say you I um I signed up for this to get us to this point and my goal was to make sure that the families that had members that they wish to have buried and make sure that at the cemetery end of it which I been pretty pretty happy with the results we we basically have as a uh Cemetery commission history it appears that we have about 2 and A2 burials a month average or about 28 years of what the high number was for the last year and um we're pretty much by the end of May we're going to have 10 completed from April and May so that's been very very active and U lot lot of phone activity Jan's taken a lot of calls some of them um are people that are looking for answers that maybe we don't have answers for yet or don't understand you guys had Tim Connor here for I think nine years he said and in the end they did a pretty phenomenal job based upon what we've got so you know it's been good to see and um and at that funeral homes are still calling him because they don't know any difference right and when I I did come in this morning and there was a phone message from yesterday morning byon F uh Forester sorry and they want a burial for Thursday excuse me so I called Emily the funeral director and who I know and worked with and said give me the names of the you know the information she didn't leave that on the phone so she did and I tried locating on our Maps through the Sims program that we have and I couldn't find any name pertaining to so um in the meantime Thursday they wanted it so I called Billy bun uh apparently Dwayne and Billy had some difficulty and he hung up on you and he told me he wasn't going to do them anymore he was done um I guess if you need to talk to Billy you can ask him but I said I may have a burial full burial up at Old Cemetery Thursday so he said I'll meet you up there I says well I'm trying to find the plot he said well just come up I probably know the family which is true he knows everybody in town he knows every stone he knows right where they sure enough he knew and he told me the situation and the names I had and he told me how they fit in the one that the funeral director gave me and how they fit in with what he knew and there's the stone they had told me where she wanted to be buried so we lined it out and he's going to dig it for me tomorrow he says I'll dig it for you however we want to take that so I said was that a threat or I know don't throw me in um so is that his last one or is it or or he didn't he's doing it I didn't ask any questions he's he's going to be in there Excavating uh tomorrow okay so it'll be ready for Thursday but we desperately need another commissioner to get a few things ironed out um we have a couple of calls uh Town people uh one fellow works for the highway department and the the uh grounds keeper has totally ruined a whole corner of his Stone um now can we just tell him do you go you go to the Granite company or how I don't we don't know what to do next on these situations uh Pard me the the person that was hired to do it probably because you mentioned the highway department they I don't think they don't mow in there no it's Highway Department's Stone Son Stone s and the apparently in Mowing and we went up look sure enough the whole it's cut right up part of the problem but who who hires the people to do the co cutting at the cemetery Commissioners Commissioners so and he's they're they're up for um renewal in July so you're going to go back to that company you hire and say look you did some damage you need to make it right so they have to do that that's what I we that's where we're coming from we don't know who to go to well we got two issues there because for years the highway department maintained that and that stone has been there since 2010 and so we don't know how long this company has been contracted and if it happened after or before we don't know what it I think it's pretty recent I'll remember if the damage were recent Cemetery has been in charge of hiring that workout for I would think at least that long because it happened while I was early on the board the cemetery Commissioners at that time which predates the Connors want to control a going out they said they could do a better job than the is that how got taken away from the highway yes and Highway agreed with it look they didn't have time they were cut down I think maybe even three guys at that time and they said look you guys want to pay for it out of your budget and I say the commission that was fine so it does seem like if they're people that you're paying for you go back to them and say look okay there must be insurance they must have a rider of some sort you hope they're bonded because I mean they're dealing with a lot of stuff and unfortunately this particular stone is sitting right next to another Stone like this here and this one is sticking up in the air versus you know they're supposed to be flat to the ground so the mois can go right over but they're lifting up with the erosion in the soil and apparently he's still mowing right over them so from there the the stone has got to be lowered again so who does that lowered for mowing Etc was not part of Maintenance at the cemetery part of Professional Care stuff like that yeah so that would be that groundskeeper well it seems like it'd be under your charge like you might job it out and say I need to hire so and so stones are us and they go out and they it we have in the past Larry Hatch used to do the stones and the foundations in the cremations and Carl has picked that up and he has been doing a phenomenal we had six foundations that he's put in this past month or so and also we've had six cremations by the end of May so it's been fairly active and uh I'm very impressed with you know the support we're getting there in the quality of that work so um the the on the while you're talking about the maintenance the Apparently before before you folks were on the board the maintenance was being taken out of the revolving account if you look at the cemetery maintenance you have $20,500 and nothing's been expended in that since July but about 177,000 uh but but the money has been taken out of the revolving account which is only for burial and U burial expenses maintance the maintenance account nothing's been taken out of there so I guess I'm I'm just thinking he's going to be coming to mole pretty soon so he want to make sure that and I've talked to the accountant about it and he's going to readjust that he's going to get it squared away and from the past what's come out of the the revolving account is the digging the digging the grave uh paying the Commissioners if they attend the you know attend the and that kind of stuff but but the maintenance got to come out so Cliff Cliff's going to straighten that out so what comes out of Perpetual Care Now what's the there's a restriction on that Perpetual care is whatever I think Perpetual care is whatever the people have the people have paid for that themselves Right petual Care see there's some account there was a that's that's for that big one right the Perpetual care that VA no there there's um a plot there where somebody donated revenues to the cemetery to be used for certain things only I think it's maintenance and cleaning I don't know the name of the individuals but there was it was like a remember something about that right it was a Legacy account and you know the there's so many spokes in this wheel it looks like a simple project it this this thing has so many things and like when we receive a cremation we also receive a certificate not sure what to do with that certificate yet um The Sims um is is a interesting program and some of it is very accurate and some of it because of the different families you know the the names are different but um sometimes for example we just had one that we were told it was going to happen in a particular family it turns out it's in a a different family and the spelling of it was incorrect so it was the same very tricky care see yeah they're allowed to expend only the interest out that's the interest one yeah right yeah and then there's the I believe that's also a separate F sear that's the one I was thinking about yeah Perpetual care has got you know almost 80 grand in it of which you extend the interest or something like that and then I have another Stone belongs to Dana pixley's family and it's lit well it's on the hill that faces um um what's her name um philp Philpot that's right M the hill there and the stone has literally rode right off the foundation and it's moving right down the hill MH so Dana asked if that could be fixed well I'm look up there walking around with him and the whole hill is gravel um the rain it's washing everything down the hill and it's washing that stone right down with it so I said to Dana it doesn't even look like there's pins in the stone that hold it to the to the platform now that water problem was something that was addressed might be before your time but there was a problem the people who bought Dalton's house they put a BM there something about that and they were TR to try and take care of that that water issue little they going to pick it up at the at the road that came around so it wouldn't go through all those stones and hitting their beside their property yeah I I don't know if that's the area because last year the Cemetary commission put in the budget $5,500 for erosion right and I wonder if that's the area they were going to do yeah I don't know and never got done never got done so that's Stone now again I we would have to hire somebody to come in and fix it but you know that would be resetting I shouldn't say resetting installing a new Foundation significantly deeper than the previous one that particular stone that Jan is referring to was probably turn put in in the early 2000s and so it's at a 3ot deep and so you know it it was just a small slab under it m so um some of the newer Stones I mean they some of the older Stones too that are oh yeah they're just sitting there Al also for the the B also for the old Cemetery um when the Tea Party folks were here they indicated that there was a grant and so I asked Bob when he was here and I think that he passed it along to Brian that um you know where where to go or something like that but you know that has you know that's another step that'll help up for the old Cemetery but it won't do anything at Prospect Hill and um please I've answered lots of phone calls angry issues with the cemetery being closed and we were just beginning to visit it and revisit it and with the third commissioner and she's gone um I can't tell you how many angry people for one it's uh I can understand where they're coming from it's a hefty expense if it's a full burial right they have to pay Vault fees there's only two three cemeteries that you can Heaven holding and the the one big complainer was his his grandmother di two days after the cemetery closed so he had to pay from that date until we opened about 1,800 they weren't happy they were They begged to have something done and he's the one that don't they close most cemeteries no nobody does but hamton has had a history I was talking to somebody that had done burials up there years before and he said it up until about four or five years ago he said when he was doing them that they always closed and he said November to April and but weather's different now I think and Billy said he'd keep it open he knows how to handle it you just hope that the public is yeah we haven't seen a freeze in a number of years now really right we don't have that anymore so that's what I was looking at just because not that I can many but what happens now they're all piling up left and right it's still hard with it's still hard with a part-time Department though like you say answering the phone now you don't have a clerk anymore we don't and this is difficult and of course the calls they'll call back and they'll punch any extension until somebody answers somebody answers and it's Eva or Jane and U that's what's happening um I don't know how to get around that um I suggested um I I did change the voice message because since a few days there were two or three calls they were complaining because they did not want to speak with the previous clerk why is her name still in there I don't want to talk to her think oh brother so I kind of just allude to it in an outome but I did change the phone message um so when they call they don't get a name they just say but there is no backup so when you get the funeral home calling and they're given maybe 3 days they need a burial right and I just happened to come in today I mean it's like we have no schedule so how do we and apparently um Tim Connors I think was a commissioner and he must have had a phone at home or he had a a f the message must have said call him at home well I wonder if there's Auto forwarding on some of these uh phones here I know it probably is it probably but who's going to take it no I'm saying if they call the extension there will'll it auto forward that message as well right you know these are viip phones so I imagine they've got some of those capabilities in there but who would you forward it to well that's for you guys to decide oh we have to decide that but with no clerk then what so so May 20th is coming you're going to be done I can't okay can't yeah I will stay on um you know to help transition whatever and keep looking for somebody to be more permanent and the other option is we could we could we could write ourselves in you could write yourself yeah well yeah you can you can hold as many elected positions but you know appointing ourselves would have been point do you can't but elected we could we could write we could do a w what's going to happen after May 20 um who's going to be there again you're going to be and then and then if people said you know I'd like to be on the board they can always come one of us would resign and appoint that person and you know right now just have a full board you know yeah right now I I think I'm avering more than five hours a week in Fall with man you know oh I did more than that last week alone I was in here every morning and that may be something to look at in terms of your clerical budget in the future as well maybe 5 hours wasn't I even asked my granddaughter I'm not kidding because she's um out of college she has a degree in philosophy and she's in the Army she's flying helicopters but she's reserved so she has one week a men a month and one day flying out of wior LAX I said Grayson want a want a job being a clerk you know she can't really grab anything full time so if I if I ask her again I'll see but you didn't get the no though I'm not going pardon me you didn't get the no no I'm not yet well in my concern to is that as a temporary I don't feel that I should be filming the position permanently for for whomever takes over um and you know they may have a different style may have a different personality and um so I think it's important that they they have control of the board as it as it comes in if we could go full steam ahead and it could fall apart in a month well got a lot to think about here I have to tell you how much we appreciate you guys stepping up and doing this and I really never thought there was that much work I didn't think so either that's why I agreed to it CET and whoever comes in is going to have to know the computer system I mean I got into the system and I navigate around it today I was doing everything trying to find a name so the more you use it the easier it is but you know it's not something why you need a clerk well that's it so so where does that get posted on I don't know Brian did you repost the clerk we didn't have to last time right but now that we have the opening have we reposted on the job on the job on the town website under openings oh we hav't we haven't reposted anything yet and then of course D's listening and he wants to put that in the paper as soon as possible anything else all right got um we we talked about the contracts yeah now oh yeah that contract's coming up right yes now do we have the authority to or you folks the that gets sign has to go through you folks the CET yeah and they did for the plowing used to be in back in the day too they're an elected board they entered into wrong contract okay question speaking of that cont run it for Brian to make sure it complies all 30b requirements procurement and all that stuff what contracts exist today I have no idea there was a I'm not sure we don't monitor them so I don't know we Landscaping there was a plowing at one time but I think that folded back into the highway when they got I think Highway still does the because they got the extra small truck they able to do it we're being buildt for plowing I I've seen some bills for that so but um and um we mentioned the grand yeah build plows so okay when you're cing out here and then is there anything legal going on that we should be sensitive to any any lawsuits or anything going on so the cemetery I okay that's good to know not yet no I don't think so all right and they does a Water Commission use the office also I the cabinets are in there oh that's it you just a file cabinet just that's it that's it and you can get in there okay yes I do okay have the key for that okay good all right all right thank you guys carry on thank you thank you both You [Music] by Street Bridge yeah I asked to have this put on just because I wanted to see if we really had a good understanding of our Direction was happening here uh we've been dealing with this gosh Don for three years you know between one Grant and another the vulnerability part and we have three Bridge projects in town we have the Rock and dundy Bridge which has a 70 person meeting every two weeks it seems like we got the South Road Bridge over Ballard Brook I believe which the state has also taking care of with their small bridge program and taking care of the whole thing besides a short number and then we have this bridge here here as Mark said the state has told us it does need some repair the state has never said it needs replacement as Mark talked about when he came to our meeting and talked about the outer beams and put the uh the cones there the outer beams need fixing we have a proposed budget here of two and almost $25 million to replace the bridge and the impetus for replacing it is because of the potential for flooding because it doesn't have the capacity to let water go through and you may recall back in ' 05 is the last time it flooded where because that huge rainstorm where Main Street flooded River Park flooded Laughing Book flooded and people couldn't cross for four or five hours and the time before that was 55 so every 7 60 years I'm just wondering if we really we've been getting these grants of which I'm not 100% sure being reimbursed by the state for we have we hit our free cash a couple years ago if you recall because of the lateness in them covering their payments we have an inine payment to make now we have to tap arpa for part of the money for this current thing I think we authorized 30,000 towards the in kind or was that we're going to try to use Casino money I thought that was Casino money which we haven't heard back if they've approved that either so I'm kind of wondering looking at the numbers here do we have a chance to look at this and saying we had a repair choice and a replace choice and if we choose the repair Choice what's our liability per se why are we not looking harder at the repair choice because it might flood every 60 years yeah is that is that thing and then the cost to when I talking to Mark he said what are we talking about the two beam he said a lot less than this you may recall when we did the Summers Road Bridge and that Clos cuz they had to like lift it up weld a couple more plates under it and put it back down because the state said you need more out years on it certainly came nothing like the price of replacing a bridge now look at these things here we talk about the actually by the bridge is 1.3 million temporary traffic control sign $170,000 for a temporary sign I wonder if they're hiring um don't we have one of those on Wheels that's what well then they got no that's the portable changeable message sign they want 18,000 for and then the permanent sign is 185,000 why do we need a permanent sign well I guess we can't keep the temporary sign that we spent 170 I some of these numbers here I'm really just and if it needs to be replaced it needs to be replaced what's the traffic Patrol sign going to do anyway I I have no idea this the first time I've seen this this is this budget here it's like it's like hey warning there's a bridge coming up right and these are all the ancillary costs that are fact right down here when you get to the actual buying the bridge is 1.3 after you spent 800,000 in the other I'd like the opportunity to maybe invite Mark to a meeting maybe really get a sense of this MVP stuff and I appreciate what they've done in it but is this really where we need to spend our money what's the reason we're really not doing a repair now what's this we have here tonight was the um letter of support brand yeah that's the letter of support for the for the MVP for the M for the next version of the MVP that will get this from 100% designed to shovel ready MH and I also think that in one is MV are the MVP folks coming they've asked to come the 29th right yes agenda for Monday so this a time for you to talk well that's [Music] due 30 24th and that gets to the next point now if they're saying here you have an opportunity to apply for a grant that will cover replacing the bridge then okay then there no harm to the town great we'll replace it and take care of that but if we're looking at the fact that we've gotten the on half million do or more in Grants and we don't have a shovel in the ground yet all this grant money has been spent on studies research application design and we haven't if this is such a my gosh a problem it might flood two years down the road nobody's noticed except there's a little I always ask why they why is the state mandating us fix rocket dundy but not this one that's my point too we got two Bridges they told us to replace and they're going to pay for them if this was such a critical thing don't you on a major road don't you think they'd be all over us well I think I think there's two things going on I think there's the municipal vulnerability Grant which we got in conjunction with East Long Meadow right to study all the culverts and all that stuff they did all that and that stuff and then the bridge became a f focal point because the state said they probably need some repairs and then they looked at the flooding issue and I think they're trying to mitigate that so I think there's two different things going on and I think you're right we had the hazard study done a number of years ago and there's a bunch of checkpoints in town could be checkpoints that could happen they they did all the culbert you know counted the culverts and they did all that kind of stuff there's a huge Pond up on Pond View that could release but you get back into is this a solution looking for a problem yes the bridge needs some tender loving care the spalling on the outside Parts needs addressing the state would like to see the outside beam one and 10 replaced but there's nothing wrong with 2 through n they're not saying the bridge is defected the only PE people that talk about replacing the bridge is because the potential for flooding if events happen in the future if we sign these does it obligate us does it obligate us to to do it no no so if we sign these and we get a granted pay for everything that's good if they say forget it you're not you know you're going to have to pay 50% or or blah blah blah we bring it we can say see you later correct okay and John I think to your point is part of it's an indictment I think on the MVP program which focuses heavily on education and Outreach and that kind of thing so a lot of money goes not to projects it's educational focus and then and the other part is is the design component of this grant um and I know I mean Design's typically what 10% of construction costs um so we're getting a design for for $50,000 cash well some of their other objectives and Craig you remember this at the park what was it infiltration Gardens things like that great things like that we're going to have an informational set session tomorrow one of three different sessions right tomorrow is at 6 so and then they want to put beehives around the playground right actual bees I'm allergic so the pollinators no joke that's nice um so I guess from that point I would motion to authorize by time me get home authorize the chair and the board to sign these letters okay and they're going to come in next week anyhow yeah y second all in favor okay thank you uh cable TV I'm in favor of it do it long as the games on Cut The the games on right now we got to go who's playing hockey playoffs they play all the way through they play through the summer okay are the still on the what do you have on the cable contract um so not much based on uh last email um I have gathered two uh four hand in charter voices two a of town invoices he's going to look at those the real question that that he's trying to get at here is whether U whether this whether the board of selectman wants to consider Peg access funding or not that's really what it comes out to you don't want to consider Peg asking for Peg access funding then then I think it's pretty simple it's the same contract right and there's a set there's a set fee that gets paid um if you want to try to get more out of Charter then you know then we go at it um but at some point we got a we got to make that decision so but he's going to get back to us with what other hidden costs are there for Peg access I mean obviously they they'll fund certain things but what happens a year down the road you know they're going to maintain upgrade equipment is there a minimum usage requirement to fill airspace you know yeah I don't know the yet you know may maybe he can get us those answers like is it is it even worth it you know you be putting more expending more to get something from them mhm can tell you in one of the one of the invoices the actually actually the invoice from from Southampton um there is a peg access there's a separate Peg access be charge two of them so on the customer yeah but wilham didn't wilham one doesn't and obviously they they play around with how they advertise the cost that they take so I don't know but at some point I think a decision is going to need to be made hopefully they'll can come to a future meeting he wasn't available today or this week apparently PV charging station so I asked to put this on cuz right after the advisory had the public hearing we got a request from National Grid to uh for an eement to for so that they could locate Transformer to support the EV Chargers um so it was terrible timing um Town Council reached out to National Grid and we think the best solution is is if if the if the board's willing to um give National Grid a revocable license temporary license so that they can continue with the construction continue with the work the land pursue a permanent easement at the fall the to some extent National gr will take a risk that the town will you know approve the easement but um they're willing to do that so do we have to vote on that no they'll they'll send us a document they'll send us a document to vote to Grant the license at some point to the license the document if you think that's a a non-starter then no no I think we need to do that you know we did the same thing when the solar open the landfill they at the last minute they said they needed e been for other polls after three years of building move it here move it there move it here yeah right all right so that's what that is uh Town Administrator report uh selector reports um so the Water Commission um John plaster is sitting right here got an email today from tyan Bond stating that there is some new um onstop grants for housing work and infrastructure updates and they're willing to submit that application for us however it's going to cost um for their services to do so in roughly $4,300 so we need to decide if we want them to go that route to submit for potential funding with a 10% or 20 25% match you guys been selling water up in the district now for years we were selling perier last year weren't we no no you guys get nothing really R up in the water there's nothing there's I think two two paying customers I'd make a motion to uh fund this out a select an expense second I'll second it second oh he made it second yeah okay all in favor any further discussion yeah use the good money yeah yeah all in favor I I tomorrow okay thank you John you're welcome oh well can can we go back to correspondence we didn't get there yet no s report correspondence s report I did I know he's asking to go back going back uh we got a a correspondent from the government study committee asking about some funding for printing Y and you've got some quotes y I need $700 or $400 $1 if you want it in color black and white 100 copies we can take that of selman's expenses why not we got plenty mov all in favor the $700 color wow that wasn't your motion that wasn't your motion they put a lot of time into that you know they put a lot of time all right Colman reports back to that the problem is that you know when you bring up these places they put it on on a color machine it may only have four pages that are in color but they're charging for color for page yeah exactly cuz they don't want to corate the color ones in that's why you know you may only have two pie charts and you're paying the whole thing any uh the only other report planning has a meeting this week uh I will say for those watching even though the Glendale solar is on theend it's only to move for a continuance so there will be no action on Lille solar at that meeting on Wednesday we had a meeting of the uh senior Senate building committee meeting this morning um the main topic is obviously looking forward to presentation at the town meeting there is a second Forum on the 30th uh what that organization should be and there was talk that uh the friends are going to be putting signs around town asking people to support the debt exclusion again it is not an ride it's a Deb exclusion and how people should contact the friends and if they want to get a sign to support and that information will be coming shortly but if you know anybody on the hand then friends such as Claudia Joan I believe you can reach out to them uh they did get the information that they did have the resignation and the the committee concurs with the selectman that they don't aren't looking for replacement at this time they're too close to finish line and that's what they go I have no report report what you been doing nothing oh quickly po no no no quickly um I think no I think Don and I would like to thank Heather joler and her crew oh yes for for the him the clean up and the people that participated bottles too well that was your backyard Don but I don't want to on that um but I think Dom did bring up a good point you know the people who do go around town and provide the clean environment for all of us where we thank everybody that show up also want to thank what happened in the auditorium on Saturday as well oh yeah that was a nice program it was a nice program done there and all the different people parking wreck cour of Health uh Library all the vendors that were there um some great pens for sale I noticed as well was rich yeah yeah uh maybe you could donate some for the uh the board to sign that great autograph um also the academy Hall had a good presentation I think I talked to Linda today said 60 70 people there for that good does show to Don's point and Craig has said that before it's a viable building to use for a meetings mhm so one question did come up from Linda this goes back to the money we spent last year the fences are up the fire escape was repaired but they didn't repair the at the top The Landing from the fire escape and it's rotted away and there's also some rotting of the entrance as well that was all part of that thought that was part of that the wood part no I mean the guy was a welder he was just going to weld the you know fire escape he doesn't do I thought the platform was part of the uh but the entrance part as well is is they're seeing some some weight there this goes back to Craig's point before again about facilities and looking over the town building facili manager right but in terms of getting that done I'd suggest that we just reach out the mark and maybe go over and take a look at it and see you know if you know somebody can just do some quick carpentry and get it done quickest way to do it great and that's it just a couple things for sure the National Grid work that was taking place at Allen Street in summers Road intersection that has wrapped up they still might have a little they may have a few glends to to tie up but it's it's not going to be as bad as go with electricity this past week um we had a question this was actually last week that came through why we don't have a school zone outside the school on North Road here so that's must be a neighbor that that they've asked us to neighbor and then one thing to think about once the um EV Chargers go in about establishing a revolving account for those funds cuz we're going to need funds are going to come in and funds are going to going to need funds available to pay out yeah the electric bills so the one thing about the revolving account the selectman can establish one at any time it just needs to be recertified the next town meeting so when Revenue starts coming in and Bill start coming through it would be good to set that up then you can also dedicate revenue from that revolving for C purp huge huge money um on the topic of that Allen Street construction there they said they're wrapping it up um I know I I mentioned it when Mark was talking about them cutting the road up that um when they repatched it wasn't going to cause any problems I know it's a little little wonky there as you're going through it right now I don't know if Mark wanted to sign off on their repatching of the road because doesn't look yeah I think he said in the past sometime I remember this came up with the water M thing requ he lik to let it settle a little bit then then maybe go back another little skim on top yeah I mean the big thing obviously was the manhole they had to put in for the right yeah you go through there now you look at the road it's a little bit uneven so I'm just worried about you know the frost hes now and you know winter coming and that's a you know High plowable area but uh further to that I think we all saw the the public chatter about the intersection obviously it was the best control of that intersection we had in quite a while shutting shutting one road down but that was common right we'll shut down the road shut the main road that was perfect there you go um but I still go back into you know when we do go to investigate that further I don't think you can fit a a rotary in there round about there without too much taking too much land and I don't think that's for us to make that decision though I mean we're not Engineers on that so no I'm giving you my just my personal thought I think also a full four-way stop doesn't work from just historical too many people are just going to blow right through that Allen Street whatever I think we're going to go all for a study at some point maybe with Casino money I think it's going to come back to a traffic light I really do we did authorize the the study so right so that's next step and we have a no we authorize the application for the money for the study right or do we have yeah I'm still waiting proposal time Bond forward right to the gaming commission yeah I should get this week I think where we how many proposals do we have out that we haven't uh pulled the tray out you did get the final four the number for Thor bures right yes I thought so yeah yeah got the final number will we didn't do it though correct um does that get into I don't know if you're covering any your report about the request down to the uh assessors that get into funding or no for overlay Reserve overlay Reserve so we need I think do we need to take a vote to cuz they need to take a vote to release it they need a formal request from us asking how much they can release again going back to what happened a couple years ago when we asked for that money do they have to go to Tom meeting after that though no they don't have to they just have to vote to release it and then our motion article say take overlay Reserve right yeah yeah so so if the board makes a formal request then it triggers a 10 day deadline that the assessors have to investigate and certify what they have access okay and take that vote within 10 days all right I move that the we authorize the town minister to reach out to uh the board of Assessors for a formal vote to release money sum of money from the overlay reserve for use of the annual time meeting in the the from Kelly mentioned that that we should that the board should specify a purpose for use of the annual town meeting orang articles at the annual time well we don't know until they do have to tell them a dollar amount though or do we have to tell them what we're looking for well I have a sense of what they based on what they said but right right but are they going to say oh yeah we have all this we'll release x amount of dollars or are they going want to know what we're actually asking for funding for well warrant articles I would as a suggestion we have the 50 ,000 for the fire station RFQ we have 43,000 for the minog WiFi um I thought there was a 20,000 or something else there aren't actually a lot of 60 for the truck M was going to put the lawn mower on no 60 footer truck so that's 150 right there 153 if you want to ask for 10,000 for the uh I mean they're willing to let up the 200 go if you want to go ahead hadn't fund the anniversary then with so speak non- tax money yeah you know we could do it it's still on there so right so the only high dollar things that are on the uh warrant are the ones going through ballot question I'm sorry the first water district thing and then the uh Senior Center and the phase B right we don't need the the bid question for everything else that's on there well we have the 16,000 for the assessors which is almost an annual appropriation at this point a th000 for the conservation take money 25,000 for Reserve fund so the onetime charges are the truck minog RFQ anniversary I can't think like 110 then no it's uh it's 50 40 60 and 10 oh you put you want use the truck well I mean if they're going to give us up to 200 not put it on the tax rate ready okay yeah so want to list those four yeah that's fine that would take it up to maybe 170 something like that any second second any further discussion all in favor I we appreciate the cooperation of the board of assessors yes all two of them all right anything else we have ex I have executive session on the uh Police contract but I think we'll forgo that this evening and just ask because they sent in a late M contract so I just asked the select to look at over for the next meeting come back with me I don't know what Lauren will do not writing up executive session minutes on the Poli contract she's already got them half started the same thing weekly motion to adour Second all in favor didn't I leave your shirt in here for you