[Music] okay I e e e that you're here we have the town of Highland Beach Town Commission meeting today is Tuesday April 2nd 2024 and it is 1:30 p.m. and I'd like to call the meeting to order if we could have the roll call please commissioner Gober ber present commissioner Peters present commissioner David present vice mayor Stern present mayor Moore present Town manager laidy present and town attorney Ruben present we could all rise for the pledge anyone have any changes for the agenda no seeing no changes I move that we accept the agenda as presented second all in favor say I I motion carries unanimously um next up presentations and proclamations swearing in of fire rescue personnel I think so yeah please raise your right hand you'll state your name I a citizen of the State of Florida Cen of State of Florida and of the United States of America unit States America and being employed by the town of Highland Beach as a and a recipient of public funds as such employee or officer do solemnly affirm that I will support the Constitution of the United States states and of the State of Florida State of Florida and the code of ordinances of the town of Highland Beach Florida congratulations welcome everyone we're really happy that you've joined Highland Beach and uh we're really excited for you to be here uh with our our kickoff of our fire rescue department so thank you very much each and every one of you um moving on um um resolution number 2024-the approving a declaration of unity of title submitted by Highland Beach Holdings for the property location north of the intersection of gr court and State Road A1A specifically partial control numbers um as listed here and providing an effective date good afternoon uh for the record in Grid Allen Town planner okay um as indicated uh the item before you is a request for Unity of title um on page five of your packets I provided you the parcel control numbers these are the two Parcels that are located the intersection of gr court and State Road A1A um they do not currently have a property address for the Palm Beach County Property Appraiser so we've gone ahead and documented these Parcels via the parcel control number um I also indicate in your AG agenda memorandum that per section 30- 68 Q3 of the town code um all unities of title um shall be reviewed by the town attorney which the application has and approved by the town commission um now I also indicate that well I already mentioned they won't have they don't currently have the address but if the uh Unity is approved by the commission the building department will provide an address and of course we will be reaching out to the Palm Beach uh Palm Beach County Property Appraiser to advise them of the address um both V uh both of these Parcels are currently vacant I provided some Aerials for you on page 15 and 16 um if you look on page 15 uh that particular area AAL is looking um Westward and then on page C 16 that aerial is looking northward um so the current Zoning for the property is multif family low density that's the acronym rml and the corresponding feature lanus designation is a multif family low density and on the top of page six I provided you a table which shows the zoning district and the corresponding future Lage designations for properties that are adjacent to these two parcels um now according to the applicant survey which is also attached in your packet uh that is on page 14 the combined Parcels will be 26,1 2017 square feet now I also indicate that the development of the parcels is subject to the 1995 settlement agreement I've provided the resolution number for that but I wanted just to advise the commission that the underlining zoning right which is that residential multif family low density um would allow three units so the rml zoning district has a maximum density of six units per dwelling acre per six units six units per dwelling per acre excuse me um so when you do the density calculation um I provided it's 3.59 units so we don't have a rounding up provision in our code so it would be three units that that's again that's a side from their settlement agreement which allows for more density so I'm glad to provide any or answer any questions you may have um Miss Milani is here and her authorized agent for this request is also here as well ingred this is a a common thing just to I mean an attorney approved this and everything or attorney and the planning board this is I mean uh this doesn't go before the planning board it per per code it's to the commission um since I've been here which is a four years years a little over four years I think we've had maybe three uh Unity of title requests I me they do come up you know every now and then but yeah all right unifying the properties is there any reason why we wouldn't approve this is there any disadvantage again we don't have any provisions in the code for me to to to guide me the code just says Unity of titles you have to go before the commission there's no regulations there's no Provisions there's no criteria so um again I'm letting you know that if for some reason their settlement agreement expires I'm letting you know what the underlighting zoning allows in terms of dwelling units as far as density obviously if it does expire they'll have to come before the the planning board to get a site plan approval um obviously if they go by the settlement agreement there's the parameters there where they can just go through a building permit process but just as a point of curiosity why wasn't this done years ago uh that is a good question POS possibly for the property owner the rectangular piece that runs along the side isn't buildable it's not a buildable width it's only 62 feet wide I from my experience I've seen Parcels like this in other municipalities until you really start getting the development then people start you know unifying properties but if they just lay vacant like this one has people just kind of wait but um again maybe that would be a more appropriate question for the property owner just curious yeah I have no issue with this I don't know if there's any other discussion well I have a question is this in any way in conflict with the resolution and the settlement agreement I didn't review this request against the settlement agreement in the settlement agreement I've discussed this with Mr Rubin there's no reference to getting a Unity of title um again the item before you is the unity of title and maybe Mr Ruben can Chim in but in the settlement agreement the development parameters for those laps are together anyway it's always assumed they're going to be developed as one project so that's why we didn't see any right and just for a clarification so under the terms of the settlement agreement and assuming that um the um requisite building uh or preliminary obligations are met uh and it applies is that uh the three units become six units um it's nine units nine nine units right it's nine units per their settlement agreement okay thank you and as Mr Ruben indicated it's one right in the settlement agreements combined units yeah B uh parcel okay I have nothing further open it up for public comments yeah any public comments on this item seeing no public comments think I have a motion I move we accept resolution number 20 24-7 I second commissioner David yes Comm commissioner Goldberg yes commissioner Peters yes vice mayor Stern yes and mayor Moore yes motion carries okay moving on to the water conservation um month Proclamation and um thank you guys thank you thank you welcome to the family yeah you just read it okay yeah so this is just a um water conservation Proclamation um and it's and the purpose is to increase awareness about the importance of water cons conservation um we can all make a difference when it comes to conserving water and um and we can all help by saving water and thus promoting a healthy economy and community so now therefore I Natasha Moore mayor of the town of Highland Beach Florida on behalf of the Town commission do hereby proclaim the month of April as water conservation month moving on uh public comments any general public comments uh moving on to the consent agenda any concerns about the consent agenda if no concerns if we could have a motion I move that we approve item a in the consent agenda all in favor say I I I anyone oppose motion carried [Music] unanimously moving on to unfinished business discussion of the proposed amendment Concepts pertaining to the accessory Marine facility and seaw wall regulations of the town code so as as ingred steps up I'll jump in a little bit here um we've been going around uh for a while on this spent a lot of time and effort thank you ingred uh for shepherding this uh process through for us Jeff thank you as well um so basically what today comes down to is which parts as presented or modified would you like us to commence moving forward with the uh development of ordinance language right now these are all Concepts in's been pretty good about keeping us on that point that we are discussing Concepts today and that's what we have so when you're ready if you like a concept then we take it work with Len and put it into an ordinance format which then we would look at the final details of how that looks within the structure uh of the our codes today so again we spent a lot of time uh thank you for everyone going out there taking a look at it um Dr Johanson called me today said he he's recovering he can't make it but he's you know watching as well as many in the community um so I guess today is where we start you know uh getting a little guidance and direction of like it don't like it kind of uh discussion do you want us to move forward move forward with modification move forward or just not do it so um I guess I was thinking we could go through each one and maybe each of us could say whether or not um they're in favor of it or not and um I guess also just to say if we decide not to move forward with something it just means we retain the current ordinance it's not like right it we you know we just retain what the current situation is right with the current code no action is not so bad for depending on on your opinion of the item right um I think I believe I believe I discussed with all the Commissioners we went on the boat um that right now we have Provisions in our code about uh Marine expert right that we're able to bring in a marine expert if there's a I don't want to say an odd situation but maybe a situation we don't see every day with all the different boatlift applications we have coming in or doc application or seaw wall something's a little bit out of the ordinary then we bring in a marine expert um so yeah we we always have that ability to get a professional expertise uh a written a report from the Marine expert on a particular project yeah so if everyone is okay with it we'll just go one by one and then just uh if you could kind of say what your what your thought is um so the first item is the maximum height U which is base flood elevation plus uh seven feet now if you could just expand on what that actually that is the lift itself right yeah this is a maximum height for accessory Marine facilities which is in so many words the the boat lift right the LI the lift itself the structure so the initial concept remember the initial concept were the concepts that were submitted or introduced by uh Greg Bobby the previous vice mayor so um that was his um formula if you wish which was Bas elevation plus 7 feet the planning board's recommendation was base foot elevation Plus 8 feet um so they wanted to go a foot above we actually had the Marine expert which is Dr Michael Jenkins come into the planning come to one of the planning board meetings because even the board wanted a little bit more expertise on this particular request and so uh the uh recommendation from the Marine expert was to do the plus eight feet from the base El Bas flood elevation so the base flood elevation again that is deemed or determined by FEMA um and it's the anticipated height of flood waters during a 100-year flood so the higher you up the higher you are above B of flood elevation the less likelihood of flooding right and then your flood rates are less right so um there's every every property has a basee fold elevation again on the west side of A1A uh the general base fold elevation is currently 6 feet ND it is pending seven so that's the situation we have right now so does anyone want to go first I mean I don't mind going first does this include pilings this is the structure well the the lift piles the lift piles yes that's part of the structure of the boat lift so right it's not about the boat itself it's about the structure the boat lift right so that the piles right can't be higher than eight feet above right thank you yeah and the top of the piles would be the top right because any other part of the lift nothing would really right so you have the piles and then um on usually on one of the piles you have the mechanical equipment right so we have people right now when we have applications come in I do have them measured to the top of the lift which is the mechanical equipment again we don't have you know the code doesn't Define where is the top of the lift but if you have the mechanical equipment that should be the top of the lift it's part of the lift um again the code is a doesn't really address that but um I have had um applicants call out that height from the top of the lift meaning the top of the mechanical equipment just to be sure that they're in compliance with the definition Boat Lift as it reads now that the lift cannot be higher than the superstructure of the boat so the lift you the top of the mechanical equipment is what we've been what has been our protocol again we don't have anything in the code but yeah perhaps we should go back in a later date we fix that yeah we could Define what the top of the lift is right how how does this impact um the homeowners that have lifts now if it is U if it it varies if we would pass this right would would this be uh prospective only well again I think like many um parcels and many accessory Marine facilities that we currently have in the town I believe a lot of you saw when we went out on the boat we have some lifts right now that are non-conforming right we have lifts if you remember in the bird Beach area some lifts are in the 25 foot side setback I know I called it out when I went on a lot of the tours so those are just non-conforming right and we don't bother with anyone but if they want to come in let's say their lift is deteriorating and it's the pilings are falling into the water and they have to come in and install that's the key word the way the code addresses Boat Lifts and other access Marine facilities even seaw walls it's the installation so if you want to install a new lift and your current lift is within the site setback if there's a site setback requirement you're going to have to put your new one in based on current code so yeah anyone now would just be non-conforming and then once they need to whether it's replaced the seaw wall changing the you know the pilings or dock piles once they have to install new then they would have to comply with any new provision that the commission wants to move forward with what about repair repair um it really depends we've had some people who um want to repair their Dock and they just want to do the deck the decking they're not touching the dock piles they're just replacing some of the decking and i' we've had the scenario before with yeah Jeff and I uh jeffre miss a building official that can be done through a building permit because you're not installing a new dock you're just taking the deck the decking and you're changing it so that's a building permit that could be done through a building permit it's more about the installation of the dock which is really you're installing it you're putting dock piles you're putting new dock piles in that technically again um staff we've come up with an interpretation that that is obviously installation yeah of a new dock yeah if I could expand generally kind of like a rule of thumb I don't know that we have it specifically defined but it's usually 50% or value or structure once you get beyond that so 70% needs to be replaced that's installation and you have to come into conformance so you can only go so far with that scope of a repair before it becomes a reconstruction or a new installation and then you have to come into compliance so with that number 60% or 7 usually it's 50 zoning it's a very common measure um I mean if we ever got pressed on that they could get an interpretation if we wanted but I don't know does our codes call out the 50 a lot of codes do I I don't think so um maybe building code no I could but essentially be any time it was replaced or moved it would have to comply with the new if it if they're just replacing as ingr said just doing some minor maintenance then that's fine um I think it maybe Marshall what you were referencing was maybe in the non-conforming section that there's a um destroyed right in some way I think there's a reference to 50% possibly I'd have to look it up but yeah because I know occasionally the pilings one or two will have to be replaced at a slip for somebody backed into it or whatever the reason is and I don't think they should have to redo everything because they're replacing two py lengths that's not truly creating a new dock correct you're yeah you're right it just depends if it if the whole thing is two piles and you replace two piles that's most of it so I mean if you got eight piles and you remove two that's not a big deal but if it's you know it's that's why they kind of use that scope a 50% of value or I prefer the 50% of structure it's easier to measure you don't get into the the value piece like you would on a home or a structure of that nature um so usually we look at the actual component size scope of the structure then perhaps we should go back at a later date and fix that too so that we know what we're talking about it's so it's part of this absolutely yeah and so just to clarify what we're talking about is whether or not we want this item like we want ingri to start developing correct language going forward so I think we can talk about what triggers what and you know and it also depends on you know the discussion doesn't sound to me that it's all about the maximum height sounds like some discussions about setbacks and all that we don't even know if we even want setbacks to be in there so I I think if we could just focus on um whether or not we want ordinance language that has to do with maximum height and what that would be the the plus seven or plus eight I would recommend we move forward with the plus eight and and we can discuss the specifics as we go through the different readings of the ordinance because she'll come up with a draft right I mean there's several like readings that we go through so there's plent of opportunity to talk there's at least two readings uh we tend to do more right worksh um also anything that's measured or dimensional can always apply for a variance so no matter what detail we get into because most of us in the context of review will try to think of unusual situations that we want to make sure we account for but there is the variance process variance process that allows you to for some odd reason if something that they needed eight and a half feet there's the ability to go and get a variance because of that unique nature or hardship that's presented by that oneoff case they have that opportunity that would go for the setbacks too that if there's some unusual situation the way the land is the the structure the the pile depth something like that that needs to be slightly modified there is the varying process but do they have to show hardship yes pra or practical difficulty correct and again it could be I have this really weird lot and I only have eight feet of Frontage and you try to measure setbacks or um you can only get certain height of because the the the distance or a seagrass survey or something may prohibit or limit those start to present practical difficulties currently uh can you tell us under what circumstances that uh uh the committee calls in the Marine experts um well we have we had one actually we have one coming up at the planning board on April 11th so this is for a boat lift um on the canal bokeh Highlands on the northernmost Canal at the end um and there was a boat lift there previously so they're putting in a new boat lift um I couldn't necessarily find a permit for the previous one that doesn't necessarily mean they didn't get a permit but the records are a little bit difficult sometimes with previous permits it's it's tight in there um so when you put in a boat lift our code requires that you can't um impact that's probably not the correct word but you C you can't impact the navigability of the Waterway um so I'm not a marine expert we don't have anyone on staff that is so I'm not going to make the determination whether that left because it is a tight fit in there um the code requires 80 feet width of canal there's about 85 feet um I'm not going to be able to indicate whether it's impacting navigability of the Waterway so we brought in the Marine EX expert and there's a report um that indicates that it's you know it it's sort of a status quo situation it's going to work it's been working so that's that's an example of bringing in the Marine expert we had um last year we had a platform lift over in Bello and um it's was right on one of the corner Parcels where you it enters into the lake and so it was like right at the edge there so again I wasn't sure if it was going to impact the navigability of the Waterway was a a little bit of narrower area again we brought in the Marine expert for that the Marine expert provided a report indicating would not impact the navigability of the waterway that report was presented to the planning board they were able to make their decision and so so now it's very fluid if we start um being very precise in our codes of to you know the certainty uh would that necessarily even so far far as the setbacks um would that then necessarily limit the ability of calling in the Marine expert well I think it depends how you word um the ordinance I mean we could still keep the provision about a marine expert um even though you may make some dimensional new dimensional requirements we could still add that we can at all at any time bring in a marine expert I would think we could add have a lot of anomalies in the town especially the one that Ang was just talking about over by bokeh Highlands that body of water there's some tough situations in there tight so they're all a little different but no I think we could while being more precise it doesn't take away the ability to bring in the EXP and we'll word it that way if we have to I would like to see a visual of what the difference between 7 feet above and 8 feet above actually looks like because personally at this point I don't have any care about one way or the other I wouldn't want it to be 10 or 12 feet above because that's yeah in the public input meetings that we had in December of 2022 I provided some examples of different lifts I have the PowerPoint here see if I can share it with you pull some of those up it should come up in a minute bear with me there's uh about 50 slides here the whole kitchen sink is in here so bear with me okay so here are the examples that again I provided during the public input meetings so the slide to your left little pointer here lenel I'm sorry you gave me the pointer right see it sure he handed it to you but with those Heights it's going to be hard from what advantage point or viewing Point are you going to review them that's going to be the challenge if you're on an elevated deck second floor deck eighth floor deck the seven to eight feet will be quite difficult and we're always going to have a difference in height over time because as Jeff has educated us over the years BFE changes over time not fast enough but it does change it does change over time where we go from six then seven you could imagine in 12 Years it'll go to seven and a half or eight so it's constantly going to be depending on that base flood elevation since we kind of tied it to that FEMA uh guidance that we'll have moving forward but it will be quite but again think of in your neighborhood this is the touche uh I think they've sold the property so he won't be mad us talking about it um but the touche property is at 12 feet right it was vastly higher than anything else in the area so that's what started to create that concern um I think with as we were just talking about the Marine expert again this is your first town planner you you would have probably have seen and avoided touche with the Staffing that we currently deploy and I would imagine will be deployed in the future to catch because the pl never showed the height right so that's the the r but yeah you see the nine 10 that's vastly different than one foot you know yeah I mean but touche example I look directly down on that and didn't make a difference to me because I have to go I have to go to the end of the balcony to look over to see it but even though they said it was navigable across when you look down if you know anything about handling boats it would be extremely difficult and you'd have to have absolute control over a boat going past to be able to do anything and you get feeling for that when you look down on it as opposed to just shooting a beam and taking a measurement because it's not Square it doesn't it goes in corners and it it was funky um and I wasn't really thinking about looking down on it because to be honest looking down on it it it's not going to make any difference the difference would be if it's black blocking someone's view unreasonably on a first level correct and you have that ability through the Marine expert to say it is an unnecessary obstruction or significant enough obstruction that it takes that value of fuse shed which is be sheds are hard to to measure but right um and if I may add um when the applicant came in to to go to 12 feet on those pilings again I had inherited that project so I brought in the Marine expert and the Marine expert report indicated that those were pretty high and needed more of a justification why the 12 feet um and then when they were denied they came back with seven feet the Marine expert looked at those plans and then on the seven feet the Marine expert felt that it was within standard practice it would not impact the navigability and so it's interesting how the perspect the the report from the Marine expert did change from 12 feet which there was qu was questionable versus the seven feet where it was deemed acceptable with seven feet you're really blocking the view somebody on the same level on the first floor once you go up to 12 you're already into the second floor of the building yeah so it's seeing a pretty boat or seeing the ugly bottom of a pretty boat which makes a difference but again here's the um the detail if this I believe this is what you were asking for right the to show like this is the top of the lift again the top of the mechanical equipment and this is a superstructure of the boat went lifted at 9 feet 7 inches and this was a table that I had done a few years back at that point the highest we had was 7 feet s inches um I haven't looked at it you know since about two years but I would say we haven't had many I would say most of them are within that seven feet seven inches I don't believe we had any higher but just to give you to answer your question and give you a little bit of perspective of how that lift pile looks yeah and what's the no action if we do no action um yeah the no action would be again if something comes in that's a bit out of the ordinary some really high pilings that we typically don't see um that's when we would bring in the Marine expert or um again they're putting a boat lip that has you know the boatlifts are by pounds right capacity so if it's a very large boat lift and a tight area of the canal and again they have to show that they're not going to impact the navigability then we'll bring in the Marine expert again they'll determine whether you know a tight area of the canal versus a larger type capacity Boat Lift will impact the navigability or again impact the visual of the public or the adjacent neighbors they'll make that call they're the experts so no action two things height you're going to see this slight variability yeah if we don't do anything but it goes to the planning board if you approve it the idea is that if it's eight or less it goes directly to building permits so the due process is removed from it that's the no action or the action is those are the difference you're going to see if we don't do anything just leave it the way it is you'll see this but they have to go to the planning board if you change it you'll see this and it doesn't have to go to the planning board so it's I think it still does have to go to planning we kept it in there we thought that um it was still going to go to the planning board but the commission can decide whe doesn't have to it's if the commission decides that Bel if it's with within this new regulation if you want it to be administratively approved by the by staff and not go to the planning board only the ones that may be higher or that may will be a Varian and that would be Board of adjustment and appeals um but I mean that would be something the commission but you're saying this variabil I mean if we approve the eight plus eight feet which I'm in favor of I mean all these would be fine it still might have variability it just it's just eight it's just less than eight feet I'll go out there I'll do it ingr if we don't do anything it'll be like now where we don't get complaints we're not receiving any concerns from folks that they can't do what they want okay so we had the tou touche sorry process before we had a building official before we had a planner we had problems because no one was watching anything so they were going wherever willy-nilly now once we started following the code AS written you went to the planning board he had a marine expert if it got kind of wly and it got a thorough review made sure the plans were complete trust me everyone knows if they go to ingred you gotta have complete plans so a lot of those issues aren't really popping up and you're still getting variability the old way you get variability the new way there isn't much difference but to be honest with you I know I'm putting myself out there probably people in the community go crazy right now I just have to be honest we're we're getting to the planning I mean outside of waiting for a planning board but we're not taking that piece out and the planning board's making really good decisions right now because they're getting a marine expert in complete planes we didn't get those at the beginning and originally we started with put it in a box it goes to the building department was kind of remember that fits in the Box Jeff can issue a permit but then we started finding all these odd properties and then we were concerned due process and neighbors not knowing and they know now and I don't you know this or that so we we took we're back to almost to where we started if you if you will but we're maybe creating more boundaries it's 8 feet is a Max so don't even think about asking for nine right now I guess you could ask for nine but by the time the Marine expert looks at it bull set of plans planning board bring it back down so um so so you're saying that I if we put in a maximum now we don't have a maximum that the format could be the same it is the same they will not um they'll still have to go to planning they will not directly go and get a permit Cor so so right now what is the um uh it's not written so what is the acceptable number is it seven feet before everyone gets out of out of shape again that there is no number but again if you look at that chart there you'll see what what has been coming into the town um we have bat Li height six feet on this chart up to 7 feet seven inches again this was done two years ago in preparation for the a public input meetings in 2022 but again I will say I haven't really seen much variation um I haven't seen anything much higher that I can recall so if someone came in with eight and a half feet right what would be the action today eight and a half feet well we obviously we'll look at the location right um if it's in a really tight area um I don't know that we could again the height h feet it it really depend it's on a Case by casee basis okay again if it's high and then in a really narrow area if it's high and on the lake and Bello depends on the boat lift type boat size capacity electrical connections Lighting systems every single one is so unique and different because not everyone drives the same boat at the same property boats are built in cubes so it's not just going to go up and long it's going to go wide too so that all makes a difference and the width sometimes is more important than the other two yep so let's look at the what is the benefit of having a limit put in now maximum height it would keep the arguments minimized with staff so when they have a pre-construction meeting or pre-design meeting I'm getting 10 because I want 10 blah blah blah we have a marine expert in like you shouldn't these are variables if you say it's eight you just say well it's eight or you have to go see the zoning board and what your practical difficulty so it does it simplifies things for staff I would have to admit when they have you know folks that really want what they want you know Highland Beach we do tend to have that um but it would not they could go higher it would not limit um bringing in the planning board from bringing in no plan board any time even if staff didn't bring a marine expert planning board can make a motion and say h nope we're making this decision without right a marine expert even if we thought comfortable with it they could say staff doesn't know what they're doing we want that Marine expert to give us that advice that's totally acceptable right and continue the item until you get the report if we make a maximum of eight nobody is going to come and or very few would come and ask for 10 or 12 so it limits those questions and based on the numbers that ingred has no one has even asked for Eights so if we go to eight we're safe again these are on based on approved right because touchet's not on here because it was not approved so I didn't include it but yeah but it would probably be pretty safe and then you're not faced with that oh well when do you trigger getting a marine expert you know if someone comes in with eight and a half you know I mean I like going to eight it's what the Marine expert uh recommended and if someone needs higher they ask for a variance and if we get a ton of variance requests then we can revisit the eight um so you know I kind of like having it's almost well and it's like a standard that's more than what most people you know more than most people have installed um so that's why I like it I don't know is there any public comment about the maximum so we'll go through each component um so and again this is just to let ingred know to start writing an ordinance we don't have to decide it today we don't you know we can continue these discussions it's it's really just about whether or not we want we can still scrap the scrap the concept you know if she starts writing and or you know we we don't want to make her do unnecessary work if we know we don't want to pursue it but um yeah I I think we should go ahead and let ingred I think it's worthwhile for her to draft it personally my my one fif vote my one out of five vote yeah I I okay good two yeah I like the8 feet I think all the municipalities around us are doing about the same so agre so do you want a motion on each item or can we just like tell you the consensus yeah I think consensus is fine because we're talking about concept still so I'd say move forward with the concept writing the ordinance and then of course we'll continue on these um discuss discussions okay the next item um exempting the personal uh watercraft lifts from the requirement that in no case shall the lift be higher than the superstructure of the boat when lifted or just remove the requirement um and you showed us that like it right behind you yeah could never be that way so right um and I know when I went out on the marine boat with several of you I pointed out the the existing um jet ski lifts that we have right so here's a detail of an actual jet ski lift that came in about four years ago at 104 ba Air Drive you can see here the top of the lift is right here which is at six feet and the superstructure of the jet ski is at 3 feet n inches so in this case the lift is higher than the super but that's not compliant with the definition of boat lift but a lot of these jet ski lift are low profile it's really hard to make them work otherwise so that's why that provision was initially proposed by Mr Bobby the code really doesn't deal with that scenario right now it just says Boat Lifts so a jet ski lift is a jet ski is a boat uh so um that's sort of how the concept came to be yeah I think that makes common sense because you don't want to change your pilings and your structure because if you decide to get a boat instead of the jet ski then you'd have to build the whole thing all over again and that doesn't make any sense I um agree with exempting these personal water passs yeah yes I did too okay I think we have consensus on that one to go ahead and move forward with that next item oh any public comments on um next item maximum seaw wall cap with three feet um maximum maximum seaw wall cap plus dock width eight feet um and the rec recommendation is yeah the maximum oh so not to even mention the three feet right the recommendation is just from the planning board that's correct okay okay and tell me again um why remove I I I think the eight feet just makes it more flexible right if you want to cap a certain width as long as everything's within the eight yeah I mean typically what we see is I think I have another um I have another you know typically what we see coming into the town is a seaw walls are typically three feet right docks are typically five feet right uh but there's always there's been some that are a little bit different um hold on I think I have a slide on that so it just provides more flexibility I I think and I have a lot of slides here so that this was kind of there was a property in question that because of some of these limitations just basically made a seaw wall cap go further out so said oh no that's not a dock that's a seaw wall cap right eight nine feet just seaw wall cap so right we're like it's whatever it is just kind of limit what that is and not differentiate what you can't do eight foot seaw wall cap and say oh now I get a five fo you start really I think that makes sense yeah I think here's a detail of the typical type of the seaw wall we have coming in again there's always deviations but again the three feet wide um this one doesn't have the dock but you typically have as I said we typically have five feet we've had some at eight feet so we've had some docks at eight feet um those were on properties that um obviously a little bit longer um but this is typically the standard that you see that's um that you see throughout the town other municipalities we are talking about flexibility so and I think it should be eight foot total how you divide it up you divide it up because Seawall cap is generally cement if I'm not mistaken it's not concrete yes not wood for a duck right and yeah you may want to have a little more stability with a little water 's cap and you're okay with a 4 foot duck as opposed to a 5 foot duck so I would just have it with not mention what has to be what just just a maximum of eight okay and then keep in mind there may be some properties currently that may not comply so if they do come in with you know a proposal to install a new dock seaw wall that they would have to adjust accordingly yeah and what's the no action right now please um the no action here is basically whatever fdp and Army Corps allows so um our code says that um as far as encroachments so long as you get the sign off from FTP and Army Corps you can encroach as much as you can because they um regulate the Waterway we have a provision if the if there's certain waterways canals or lakes that are not reg uh regulated bar armi core then you can encroach I think it was five feet for ducks but that's not our case as I mentioned several times at the public input meetings at commission meetings um staff we met with Army Corps at the beginning of Co four years ago they made it very clear that they regulate the Waterway the canals and the lakes so the code clearly says if they regulate then as long as they sign off on that whatever the encroachment is then that's good that's the way the code currently reads and if you wind up with a situation that becomes a health safety issue that's a whole different bowl of wax yeah then if it's it's not a safe issue you go back to the planning board on that particular issue yeah so are we all good on I I'm I'm recommending we in go forward with an ordinance on the maximum of eight like what Evelyn said yes any okay we're good with that one okay next one encroachment into to water at 25 feet or 25% of Waterway with um and then I guess the planning board added from wet face of seaw wall or bulkhead which I think was an important clarification that they did right um because right now obviously we don't have anything to code about this type of um encroachment but um I've discussed this with the Marine expert you know the proper terminology when it comes to measuring um seaw wall from one seaw wall across the Waterway to another seaw wall and it is common to use the terminology of the wet face of the seaw wall there could be other you know sometimes I'll use West Edge um there's a variety of ter a variety of terminology that is acceptable but um and that was important because some people's lot lines actually are in the water so this clarifies that it's from the wet regardless if your seaw wall is outside the property line or within the property line okay yeah in that same water body we've been discussing next to boeh Highlands there's actually water lots for the so this way which just be from the West yeah so that seems like an important clarification and that's the seaw wall we're talking about here um this is uh for any this is not the seaw wall this is the access Marine this is the ACC okay so yeah right so accessor facilities seaw walls are not accessory facilities are their own entity right and of course that would not include anything that's on the intercoler Waterway so it's a piling for a lift cannot go an example um this is again from the public input meetings this is an example of a proposed 25% encroachment um so here's uh this is the bokeh highlands area um the canal width here is approximately 68 feet and what's interesting is that the code requires for accessory facilities has to be in a canal that's 80 feet wide now it doesn't say how to measure it from wet face it doesn't give a measurement so that's just another issue I just see now because it does require 80 feet this is approximately 60 again until we see a survey just go with a you know it's an approximate but um so 68 feet at 25% um they would only be able to encroach 17 uh feet again this is one of those lots that Mr Rubin just mentioned that's in Balo they're individually owned there's 14 of them um so yeah they would be limited uh to the 25% 17 feet they couldn't go 25 feet here because the 25% is less yeah any public comment on this one yeah Rick Greenwall Tranquility drive this one I don't really have an opinion I just had a question and some of the data that was handed out the recommended uh length of encroachment was 20 feet in some of the neighboring communities and I just wondered why we in concept we're talking about 25 ft as opposed to 20 feet the 25 feet was again proposed by Mr Bobby um his report is in your packet and he gave a justification for um his proposed Concepts uh those start on page 51 of your packets and I think he referenced some other municipalities um actually if you go to page 52 that's where he addresses is this 25 ft or 25% um if I recall it's like boat width plus your dock plus your seaw wall cap because it's going from the wet face so you can only go all that stuff combined can only be the 25 feet so you might have eight feet like the three foot cap five foot Dock and then you're then you got 17 feet left to to do what you want if you got the whole 25 if not it you know comes down precipitous based on the calculation on that width and you could find yourself much lower but it was all stuff in there what was the driving piece to it yeah on page 53 go yeah I believe there were some other municipalities that did have 20 feet I have it on one of these tables I could find it for you and did the Marine expert comment on that um yes the Marine expert report on these initial concepts are provided on page 62 of your packets and he addresses let's see uh yeah on page actually 63 he addresses the encroachment um he says limitations to the distance structures can en coaching a Waterway are standard practice and meet the intent to allow for safe navigation and minimize impacts in properties and Views encroachment maximum distances on the order of 25 ft relative to the Waterway Edge are fairly common though additional restrictions for narrow waterways are also common practice and then he just states that a general 50 foot effective Fairway width is a common designed standard for residential canals well we would take care of that with the 25% so it deals with the fact that there are narrow canals and you can't go out the 2 5 fet so I'm in favor with in moot drafting this and if we need to change it to 20 or some you know we can but at least I think it makes sense to start doing that I think it will create fewer problems in the permit stage planning stage I'm sorry repeat that I said it will create fewer problems in the planning and mid stage yeah if it's laid out like if people know that's what they have to do then they don't have to go back and forth because they see then you don't buy a boat that's wider than we fit I agree okay okay so I think we all are in favor of um number four moving so far so far all of them so uh changing the setback so I'm actually not in favor of this um number five my own personal opinion I think we leave it the way it exactly the way it is but and I know that there are a lot of people up in bird Beach specifically that like their 25 foot setbacks they have wide pieces of property and they want to be separate they so even if we should change it I wouldn't change it the same way for the whole town if you were directly on the intra Coastal it perhaps could be and your lot is above we can come up with a number of with feet wide for your lot they should be allowed to have that 25 fet without worrying that the next door neighbor is going to come in and put three boats and come up within 10 feet of their property line yes you know but on the other in some of the canals you've got multif family homes three four five and they can't have everyone have a boat if you have to be 25 feet it is right now it's 25 feet in single family zoning districts right and I think in the multif family I don't think there is a setback there's no setback in multif family and let me also just add a little note so it's 25t if you're a single family zoning District but if your lot is between 50 and 70 feet in width then it's 15 feet in the single family okay so that does makes sense what I was talking about so makes sense I think for single family lots we should leave it that way and do something for the the placees the the homes on the canals that are narrow and you know they don't want boat docking nose to nose well just to clarify you can still dock your boat of your boat the property line that's not changing it's always been that way um it's just that the dock has to be have a certain setback um just that most people when they dock their boat they do you know dock it within your dock they don't you know I think in general it probably does help influence people not to have their boat sit all the way at the edge because if it's too small of a boat it wouldn't have a dog right to sit at um I I I don't think we get a lot of complaints about the setbacks we have now um and to me I just don't think we have enough of a consensus of home owners to reduce the setbacks on the single family homes you know I think if everyone was unified and said yes we wanted this but I'm I'm just not hearing that so do we have any public comments on this rck Greenwall Tranquility Drive I think that a lot of this will be Superfluous given the sentiments that were most recently expressed before you came to a conclusion but I'd be I'm strongly against this concept of uh changing these uh setbacks uh as outlin and really I have three main reasons for it one is just how do we get there because it seemed to come out of the blue with no one that I know asking for it it didn't appear at any of the meetings that I went to as a as something that needed to be done it didn't appear in the consultant's report it certainly wasn't in uh vice mayor Bobby's report some years ago um so just that process made me a little nervous but beginning about that the other two main things are one because of safety and then also because of uh Aesthetics and some of this has been alluded to already but in terms of safety you don't have to be a a boat expert understand that even with spring lines and doing the best docking available that with changes in winds and changes in tide boats are going to move and you can't have boats dock nose to nose or you're you're asking for accidents to happen and the same thing goes if boats are packed in too tightly people can't get on their lift safely and uh just maneuvering becomes an issue that that that really uh that shouldn't be there and in fact this was specifically mentioned by the Marine expert in one of his uh reports that were included in the folder when he was talking about some of the areas in town that currently don't have any setback requirements uh where docks are pretty much contiguous and it actually was mentioned that that's really not the safest way to uh uh to go then finally in terms of Aesthetics uh you know again a lot of us like our views we're living on the ground floor as it were which is uh different I know many people in town are in condos and your view from the 10th floor is a lot different from your view when you go look out your back window or walk out into your backyard and if somebody has a lift or a dock with a with a big boat right on the property line when you have boat on the lift it's see it you're basically talking about having two containers as large as the ones on big cargo ships stacked right on top of each other right on your property line so you can imagine that if you're looking out if you happen to be unlucky enough to have that on both your property lines you've developed tunnel vision I mean you can't see anywhere except straight back and that's not what a lot of residents I think bargain for so I'm not going to say anymore because I think you guys are on the right track and I don't want to uh I don't want to tip things in the wrong direction but I'm really strongly opposed to uh uh changing the setbacks in the uh residential uh single family communities thank you Dr greenworld what about in residential where it's not single family where it's tow houses three four five however many are in well I mean I I'm I don't claim to be a marine expert I mean I used to joke with my family that sometimes I kind of dock by Braille kind of thing you like bounce off things a little bit and then get there but uh uh so I don't claim to be a marine expert I think what we're what we're talking about most of those have their own HOA or condo rues so they can decide how they want to divide up their dock safely so hopefully they're not too close together in terms of their neighbor I personally think that there should be a space meaning that they shouldn't be really lot line to lot line either but that that's a personal opinion and I'm not trying to point myself off as any kind of a marine expert at all because I'm not there should be some space but most of them you can't have 25 foot setbacks because there's no property left no I agree and I think that that should be different and i' leave that up to people who like ingred and other folks who know much more about this than than I do from from a strict boating standpoint though putting boats nose to nose is just not a good idea so can we agree not to change it for single family homes and think about what to do for the multif family homes on some of these canals because it's not big buildings they're they're tow houses and blocks of tow houses and if you leave it at 25 set backs you're taking away their ability to have a boat in a lot of cases yes so my suggestion would be like no change like no action so I I wouldn't want to take something away from those properties what is it now right now um we have just the setbacks for the single family zoning districts right multi family there's no setback currently just if you're in a single family zoning District I would leave it as it is then I agree all the way around y leave it whoever did the 25 ft and no setbacks did it right yeah if I could just add just for the record um on the bottom of page 53 which is uh Greg Bobby's initial report on the top of 54 he just talked about the side setbacks and what his recommendations are he gets into comparing bokeh and his Hillsboro Beach and Ocean R so he does give a little bit of a position on that I just want to clarify for the record yeah I think through all the discussions I think people recognize yeah different towns do different things but I feel like the consensus was people just wanted to keep P Beach the way that it was that's the feedback I got so a no action option is for number five so number five should not be a draft ordinance okay next item requiring a ladder for every 50 feet and then the board recommendation was for every fet my my concern is the cost um for facilities that do not have ladders I think ladders are important um I don't know I don't know what the cost is if anyone has anything input here but also with the cost even if the cost is reasonable because I don't think it would be a burden in most cases there is the safety issue there are a lot of people particularly in the private homes who don't want to have a ladder that allows somebody to climb out and onto their property when they're not there and a lot of those homes are the people who are snowbirds or part-time residents and it's a safety issue yeah yeah I I would I'm watching the discussion on the planning board I would agree with their recommendation of the 100 feet but I would leave it on to discussion go the future I so I I have heard that feedback that homeowners are very concerned about putting a ladder in the safety I wonder if we could make it just a recommendation as opposed to like a hard encourage like an encourage we can encourage it's not a requirement we encourage not make it a a hard requirement just make it an an encouragement or something like that because some homeowners really feels very strongly about not having the ladder and is it their responsibility to provide safety for anyone I mean I I don't know I don't know is this I'd like to leave it on as discussion because I think it's important from the safety perspective can we tie it into the length of the dock perhaps as opposed to every hundred feet so that instead of affecting the single family homes there a lot more Security in the bigger buildings so maybe some of those larger docks I mean a lot of them don't have docks at all it's just a seol so it's not so you're basically saying if you have a less than a 100 foot dock it's not an requirement but you have if you have more than 100 foot dock or some threshold than than it's a requirement yeah but I need I need to have somebody really think it through for the parameters I think it needs to be discussed further now I have a question that what you just said brought to mind This only affects the docks what if there's no docks what if there's just the seawall you take bird Beach they have large expanses on the inter Coastal what if someone falls in the water they also I mean going most of them to be honest most of them do have docks docks yeah you know some of them are smaller than others they don't go the whole whole width of the property but just about every one of them has a dock behind you is um the concept that was at the Prov presented to the public at the public input meeting just to show you what other municipalities write they reference it to the dock like in this one doc book rone minimum one lot um man alipin um and Gulf sheine they just say it's permitted so that's almost like an encouragement like if you want to do it you can do it if you want to do it you can do it it's not a requirement but it's if you want it you could do it and then right Del Ray Beach references docks and then they reference finger Pierce docking facilities docks combination of docks and then Lighthouse Point also they reference docks not right if it's just a seaw wall not a requirement in those municipalities so you're saying it's for both the dock or the seaw wall would be ladder I mean that would be up to the commission but just I wanted to give you perspective as to what other municipalities I don't see that any of them at least the ones here you know they just reference for a dock I know when we were out and some the seaw walls are high if he did fall in there's no way getting out the lads are very important so we have we ever had do we know do we have a history of that like where someone couldn't get we do I I don't know of it I mean the one thing that helps us with safety now is having the Marine unit and eventually our fire chief here we'll be able to do water rescue so if it does happen at least we now have a mechanism to respond before we never but there were a couple of accidents where people were in the water and as I understand it it was not easy to get them out I mean if I I would guess and I'll leave this to her fire chief but if you were injured in the water I don't know it'd be hard to get you out on a dock on a little metal ladder and I think you're gonna need to scoop and load up somehow rather than just throw it up I mean you have to be an able-bodied person to pull up one of those ladders oh yeah it's not easy to go up those ladders can we table that part well I guess we need to give direction on the ordinance I mean I I guess my one vote would be to make it permitted like pered or encouragement I you know that's just one I would leave it I would leave it I'd let yes I'd let a condo association make their rules I think by having in the code has permitted just the fact that we're dealing with it to the extent that that the public here pays attention um they they may address it yeah but has it ever not been permitted again the code is silent on ladders yeah so I would recommend as opposed to permit because they're already permitted to do it so a little bit more stronger language on that yeah encouraging I guess yeah so you want it as a recommendation recommend my my my my feelings are a little different my feeling is as a requirement and again planning Bo talked about it they discussed the necessity of 50 feet versus 100 feet and the idea of what you can Cline out or not being able to hold on until something came to help you out and I think it's an important safety issue to yeah any public comment on this item I agree with that if somebody was dring and I was saving them bringing them in I would have something a ladder to hold on to till the fire department came or police or whatever okay so what do we have count or um or we could draft it as a requirement and then we can always discuss it as a requirement mandatory or as recommended I guess it doesn't we can decide quickly whether it's recommended or mandatory but then we're going to have the approval process do you want to add a a a um a number 100 feet do you want to add a threshold or you just want to make it a blanket required without providing any I mean I think I think 100 but I mean that was a lot of discussion with the planning board and they came that same conclusion I would agree with that yeah but I would still 100 yeah maybe can you give us the two options can you write it like if you we did it a requirement it would be this way and if it would be encouragement you know highly encouraged it would be that other way like give us those two Alternatives as we go through the ordinance I would exempt the single family homes directly on the intra coal and just recommend that they do it as opposed to require them to do it why because it's a safety issue their homes are vulnerable and somebody can come come along and tie up to that ladder and they can climb in and there's nobody there particularly at night and you know we have to protect that too but did you say you would exempt them I would exempt them from the requirement of having one and recommend that they have one can we do it like that we can draft it in the alternative and you can you can decide this later down the road that's fine you can do it by District too where single family homes it's permitted condos must have one every 100 feet because you have more people congregating as a rational point of discussion I guess is there anything now in our ordinance relative to Sea Wolves in that respect with the ladds the code is silent on Lads there's no regulation regarding Lads right and as you saw was you went when you went out in the unic coal some have some don't some single family areas have some don't a little bit of yeah a lot of us have mean I know I have I have two at my house um so a lot of us have them and it's just those people who have chosen not to have them they feel pretty strongly about not having them I mean I'm I'm fine maybe having all these Alternatives and then we can have a more formal when it comes to um when we act you know and then it'll be more clear because this is just the drafting of the ordinance at this point so maybe there's is there three options making it mandatory right making it encouraged and then the third option which is carving out the single family homes on the main inter Coastal right making it recommended for them but then mandatory for everyone else and then we can just kind of see how it goes through the process and we can have a formal vote on it I think more clear good okay um seaw Wall height uh so the recommended from the planning board is base flood elevation plus one and right now there's no well right now we have a maximum sea all seaw walls on the west side of A1A have to be at base flood elevation or higher so the way the wording is now is somebody could come in with something really high and say well your Co say or higher and I'm higher so I should be compliant so I think that was the intent with having possibly a maximum seaw wall height so again here's the um concept as it was presented at the public input meetings again the no action option if we had an exceptionally high seaw wall come in tomorrow what do we have in our code now we have the Marine expert and they would be able to chime in on standards in the industry about seaw Wall height provide some sort of one of the problems with doing that is we're encouraging people to raise their sea wols and because of flooding issues so people are building their homes up higher to prevent future flooding I don't know if saying it's plus one is going to be sufficient if the whole property is up higher right and and the base of elevations as was indicator they go up too right the west side is six feet now currently but when you go to the FEMA map it shows a pending at seven so these will change right in time yeah I'm in favor of leaving this off I don't know how everybody else feels because like you said ofone people might want to do you know why why prevent someone from really protecting your property on I think this came about because some people like being next to somebody who had it too high but I I think that's probably true and that is creates an unfortunate situation um but we are recommending that people raise everything because we have a potential but terrible flooding and so far we've been fortunate it hasn't been so terrible but I mean you know you hear stories all the time of people that have never flooded before and they've got 15 water 15 ft from on their properties and if we can avoid that that would be a good thing so you're in favor of leaving it off I'm in favor of leaving it off right now yes what you guys think y leaving it off good okay so I think we're in favor of leaving it off so no no action no action item on any public comments on that okay well a lot of discussion lengthy topic that's for sure we're ready to move on thank you very much Ang very excellent work thorough work I commend you for that um excellent okay fire rescue implementation update afternoon everyone mayor vice mayor Glenn Joseph fire rescue Commissioners uh we're getting close right we were driven by at night uh by station yeah it's lit up pretty nicely U as far as the construction goes the elevator state inspection is scheduled for Thursday that's the last major thing uh then we'll all to bring all the still the heavy equipment upstairs and refrigerators and that kind of thing medication dispensers that's going to get us very close to getting done Landscaping should begin later this week and should have it all greened out by mid next week uh expect to have most of the subcontract is off the site by the middle of next week so it'll be just punch out list uh odds and ends as furniture delivery began furniture delivery say that three times uh began this week uh we got some of furniture upstairs already for the conference room and the EOC bringing in a table so your commission Chambers are almost free to be reoccupied uh other than that we're just moving forward step by step we still expect to be ahead of schedule by uh or at least completed on schedule by the 15th uh equipment we had a couple of delays uh one is the uh compressor the manufacturer SCBA for breathing air for firefighters uh um was supposed to be delivered in February it was pushed back to March now it's sometime in April so that uh the vendor in pompo beach is offered to let us use a portable system uh for training and stuff so uh they've already agreed to let it use that so it's not going to delay training anym than it would but we would like to have it installed by the 19th for the grand opening but I don't know that might it may not happen maybe have some time after that that uh equipment wise the fire apparatus uh everything's done on there had them tested all the laer tested last night including the aerial system we have to do that annually to make sure that there's no weaknesses or damage to the structures uh all the holes was loaded on and tested last night so uh it's basically a five truck and we'll be using it for training the rest of the week and over the weekend we'll park it over here at the uh and the station so it'll be visible this weekend so come to see same thing with the rescue we had to make some alterations to some of the compartments to get the equipment in there that's all finished up and so we're just finishing some odds and ends and I'll be delivered as well uh we've been delaying the delivery of the equipment because of the uh interference between the front apron on A1A so uh we built and designed the apron based on the new A1A after it's done so there was a four to six inch gap between the current roadway and where it is right now we didn't want to shave it off because they we have to redo it again next year when they finish so what they opted to do was to kind of put a uh asphalt transition and so we had to put several layers we put in two layers so far and then uh we put two more layers to make the transition a smoother operation but that's been the hold of been having the units delivery to the site and we've had not to uh I wanted not to uh compress the the asphalt beforehand k then didn't want us to do that Staffing uh you met your firefighters so everybody's on on board uh we have 28 firefighters four captains eight drivers and uh 16 firefighters some of them are brand new a few of them are about nine out 16 are new and we have people with years of service so uh the drivers some of them are most of them have at least five years or more as drivers in the service so we have good experience and the captains as you could tell when you first met them a few weeks ago they're pretty uh solid people so I think we're on a good track of getting things done um the grand opening or the openhouse scheduled for the 19th we talked about 3 p p.m. to 5:00 P p.m we sign the rscp to all the dignitaries and VIPs uh we had actually 164 s out and we've received comments from 63 so for accepted uh we'll be sting it out again tomorrow just as a reminder we're closing it off on well Monday morning at midnight we shut off and we'll use that as a planning metrics the M the man wants to plan for 300 people there abouts well yeah we have limitations on space so but I'm guessing residence it'll grow a little bit as it gets closer and I don't want uh you know I hear my mother my here make sure there's enough food for everybody so I just want to make sure we have clean underwear you have to for everybody all right all right make sure we got food so I want to make sure everybody's got something to eat and they have a place to see can be seen and see the programming get a chance to tour things like that so we're working on the programming finalizing that right now and um so the uh tents and all the food will be ordered probably next week just to make sure we have enough time uh to make all that stuff happen and uh we'll have a good time on the 19th U we'll try to make it as well laidback as and as pump us as possible so we have a little bit of both uh we'll try to get father Horgan to do the invocation and a few comments from the mayor and Commissioners that want to make some comments and I'll see a few words if uh I have to so other than that it's going to be pretty laidback maybe half hour of some speeches and comments and talking and then uh get into the music and food and have people wander around the station ask questions fir will all be there there'll be in uniform with a name tag not the ones that were raring today but full uniform with the name tags and everything so they could be addressed and know who they are begin that process so as far as Community activity in the last uh two weeks since we met last we did a CPR class for tascan again we trained about 15 people in CPR and there were three classes held Mr G wanted to do it himself so we loaned him the equipment to get it done he did three classes of 20 each so tell a bunch of people in his building so the word's getting out the people are getting involved and they're asking questions and uh it's only I think it's going to get bigger over the time when we get fully fully and scount into we had a good meeting with Del for as far as the interface goes uh they will be delivering the equipment that they're using right now two weeks early so we could actually go through it and clean everything up get it ready for the open house uh so that's really good for us because we get to see what's in the units and what we have to do what additional C we have to buy so that's very very nice of them and they will be here on the 30th we try to make that transition on the 30th that people not leaving here and going home at night so they'll be here on the 30th we'll be ready to go on the 30th of April we'll be running the call starting at 7 a.m. on 30th of April there'll be there's backup if something doesn't work radios didn't announce it whatever we have nothing be delayed we'll have somebody there on site but coming the thir through that night we'll be running full steep ahead that's the plan as it stands right now questions sounds like we're in great shape Marshall what are we going to do about parking for people if you're expecting 300 people so so um let me get that first and then you'll you'll correct me so when we uh when we get all the people that have accepted the rcps we'll send them back an in a thank you note with a map of where the park and probably we Arrangements father Horan's been gracious to let us continue using uh the church parking on so we'll be using that primarily as our parking we'll reserve a few for handicap on site for those that just can't make that Journey uh Chief said he'll try to get the um golf cart again to get people from St lisy's that don't or can or interested in making that that walk and we'll go from there uh so he's been letting us use it and uh father Horan and I developed a pretty good relationship where I think he's going to allow us to continue to use it as on a regular basis so I think parking is going to uh just did that because vice mayor and I just talked about it yesterday parking is going to continue to be an issue for us just it just it just is so I'm I'm glad and happy that um father Horgan and the church are allowing us at a long-term basis to have that relationship because we're going to start needing needing it even for normal operations right which somewhat concerning but in the inim we're good that we can still use uh that parking lot during the day for special events so for that special event we'll we'll send them thank you for coming and a map directions how to park at the uh the church and then we'll have some kind of a soci service back and forth for people who don't want to walk fantastic fantastic so I mean I just feel like this grand opening ribbon cutting ceremony is such a major milestone for our community and um I hope people come and um I think that this is something to be celebrated and uh so very exciting and something that we can really be proud of and a huge thank you to you and your team and you know all these employees look fantastic and it's very exciting it's it's just amazing how it's all come together and um it's it's really a historic event for the town of Highland Beach to to start our our fire rescue Department well I agree with you completely I think it's uh for town our size the rest of palich county is taking notice of what's Happening Here and it's not me I keep telling you that it's the whole town everybody's all on board and I'm not going to call any department heads anymore but uh everybody's behind this from the day one we have had a lot of support a lot of help from everybody in the town outside the town the residents have come in I've had retirees going say hey what can I do to help do you need anything uh so uh the fired police foundation have been outstanding they've been meeting on a regular basis asking us what we need and how can they help us fund stuff so I think it's a whole Community effort but it takes a whole Community to make do it right you know and so that's that's the important thing and your support has been outstanding and um it's huge for everybody else in the county all these smaller communities looking at us like hey they can do it why can't we do it I've had a lot of positive feedback from people seeing the captains walking yes up and down the street yeah they thought that this was just great and I hope people who they met along their walk would introduce themselves or just say hi they do they do we we been trying to encourage them to interact more and I think the open house is going to make it even more an open environment come on in walk through had done several chours over the last two weeks uh we hard hats are off now so uh you know if you want to come by you have family friends you want to stop by and see that the building could stop by and get a hold of myself or anybody else and will walk you through the building yeah I think it's terrific that the community wants to be involved yeah which is a very nice thing that's unusual thing unusual it is unusual and to use the Tasha's word it's fantastic well thank you so much for your support we we all appreciate it thank you and it really hits home when we when we saw so many people the first first thought I had oh my God look at that payroll that's what I say no Marsh is sharping his pencil he's uh pretty good the residents are very proud they should be very proud of the Town should be because they said it could not be done thank you I have I have just a question um does the start of U the work by F do interfere at all in this well it's always going to interfere with the response uh you know anything that that inhibits or traffic uh is going to interfere with our ability to respond the thing is that it's unavoidable and so what we do is we try to minimize any delay so every day you know the captains will be asked to drive down on our PR Chief to drive down see where the obstructions are let the guys know what to expect when they go down the road um we'll be using you could either delay getting to the call or could delay getting out of the station so we'll minimize the stuff that we can control and try to maximize or limit the stuff that we can't control so it's just a matter of a give and take you know so we just have to work through it and we'll make it happen yeah the people from fot yesterday said that if they are notified when the truck is is coming out they can make arrangements to let it go through smoothly like we do with the uh with the bridges so we call the bridges when we're going to go over let them know we bring the patient over way before we need to bring the patient over that way they hold bridges down so we do that routinely so that's something probably happen here as well if you have a cell phone number will call hey we're coming down to such and such Avenue let us uh let us through and they'll block the traffic in hold for us so I think we have ways because everybody here has experience been doing this before have had those kind of activities before we have ways working around the construction and the obstructions and making it as efficient as possible there's no way to avoid some of these delays however however long they take it would be less time than it would take for it to come from the mainland to get here have no comment on but that's right that's right but yes we will make every effort to make this as smooth period as possible during those uh during the construction but life happens and we have to what we have to do is adjust to our responses to situation we find we can control as much as we can but the things that we can't control we have to be able to work around it to get the outcomes that we looking for well I want to thank you again it's I don't thank me thank the team it's just a just an amazing task um that was undertaken by everyone and you really we're we're so very proud of you and and the work that you've done and the team that you put together well Marshall's got some more gray hairs too over there just letting you know I notice the difference so thank you very much I'll pass it on the rest of team after moving on to Florida d uh Department of Transportation the Triple R project update yes so yesterday there was the condo uh meeting um not well attended not what not well attended but they didn't give us any information we didn't have from the other meeting so um I think they said they were committing to they're starting on at the North yes that's exactly what they said starting at but they started saying they were going to start in the South but eventually we got them to say that they're going to start on the north but start with the drainage work which still requires lane closures even though they said don't worry about it it's not going to block traffic but it will it will uh but yeah so they're going to start North with their way down uh that's kind of while folks wanted the South it would be nice to improve that intersection so when we start really getting in the center of town to be able to move folks to the north when they get stuck um so uh that's it that's where we're at I have no idea who the contractor is still I mean they're starting tomorrow tomor I have no idea who's doing the work um I don't see any signs out there so maybe I tomorrow they're going to start delivering cones or something I I I don't I I I don't know but tomorrow is still their start date they said no now are they good we need good follow up on the things that they committed to they even again said yesterday they would be signing asking for local traffic you know things of that nature by the entrance so we're just GNA have to follow up and make sure that they're doing what they Community cor correct uh yep I hope we can get them to I I they're starting tomorrow so I I I don't I don't know so um the project scope hasn't changed and we know that their intention is to start at the one of the point that came up that everybody may know is when they start they're going to start as as Marshall said on the drainage and then they're gonna come back and do the paving as a second step so it's not a section of drainage and Paving and section so it's going to be a couple of faes now this is this starts um at Highland on the beach so that hole from from um uh the bridge that portion of Del Ry is not being touched oh yeah that right oh they are they're starting right at the bridge is that it on our side of the bridge I mean yeah the right the whole reason for starting up there is because there isn't a long enough turn lane and you get backed up there it's just incredible yes I thought we got backed up at the South but nothing like they get backed up at that bridge so that's why they're starting okay from that end here we go here we [Music] go oh okay thank you moving on to the Strategic plan so uh did some updates since last time and now you'll see included the CIP uh there are a few typos we have to uh punch out of that uh but again it's our first crack getting you that fiveyear CIP with project descriptions on a year-to-year basis things that we know that are upcoming again the schedule is not firm we do that during budget season to to make sure you're comfortable going this direction and at times a project or two we just can't get to or we remove because it becomes um unnecessary or we partner with a different project and move it to a later period of time so the CIP is the the supplement to this uh strategic priorities plan again that which then gets us into starting in the middle of this month we start the budget process where we start working with department heads to develop expenditures for the next year David starts this forecasting and really starts looking at what what's the next year going to look like um I'm curious budgetarily what next year will look like uh our markets are still strong but softening is what the property appr appraiser is saying so you know what that means as a final number we'll have to to wait and see um I think we'll be in solid shape it just I don't know that you're going to see 13 14% again but um yeah so I mean I think half is a reasonable strong number but a softening of what we had started seeing um but again so we we updated I have a few new projects that came in from the last meeting I didn't get into getting descriptions uh but this is something we should uh continue on a monthly basis that way we're constantly looking talking updating progress um and and go from there so the new the couple of the new ones we didn't have the Marine facility docking we wanted to make sure that was in their electric vehicle ordinance or design protocols fire inspection compliance Condominiums um I guess now would be a good time to kick off some of that we're we're finding stuff just hasn't been done in a long time a lot of it is housekeeping 80% is for the condos to do some housekeeping uh you know maintenance room storage closets there's some work that needs to be done um but I think it's going to take a large sum of the fire Marshall's time and the commissions to we're going to get some push back and we just have to slowly and methodically kind of lay out the reasons why we have to be compliant with the fire Cod for whatever reason there hasn't been a lot of compliance and inspection I mean it was kind of done but not followed through so we've got some issues out there that uh Chief and Matt are going to have to start pursuing so when I you know that's why I said once a month we start doing it it we'll start to you'll start to hear and see what those are we'll put a list together so you'll be able to begin to see you know what's that status and again it's it's critical to us to have the condos in a safe operating condition especially as it comes to Fire Systems so we'll get there but it's a big enough project that we should keep an eye on it's going to take a lot of resources um but it's something that that should be on your radar screen and critically important right I mean like some of them are yeah some are I'm uh shocked would be a limited yeah Chief why don't you to take the heat on this one um but it's part of you know we're taking over and then uh as part of their effort is to go what to assess our condition what has been going we never really paid attention operationally from our organization you know we kind of defaulted so yeah so um Glen again fire rescue the um the issue has always been uh mostly like said 80% storage uh interp storage of fuels propane compressed cylinders inside the building and they're supposed to be stored in cages outside the building uh storing on stairwells under stairwells out are fire escapes fire exits um but there's some about 20% that's equipment based uh uh Fire Protection Systems have not been maintained they rusted through leaks they're they're cohabitating the same compartment with a fire pump and the electrical system which is not allowed on the code so they'll have to build partitions and some of those things but uh some of them will have to be um uh one-way valves put in this in the in the waterways so that's expensive um moving certain some of them have their their underground piping that has to be bring brought above ground so that's going to be expensive so about 80% of it is stuff that we could we're going to send a letter out to all the condominium saying hey these are the things that you need to clean up you need to get the storage combustibles out of the the electrical rooms you got to get combustibles and storage out of the elevator rooms you got to get all the stuff out of no flyable liquids inside the building if you have a highrise building has to be stored outside I don't know where you store them I don't care where you store them it can't be inside the building you can't have propane cylinders inside of a high-rise building it's just not allow I mean because those accelerate a fire and make things bad so uh again mostly housekeeping stuff uh they will get pushed back because they've been doing like that for years apparently from talking to some of the residents and nobody's ever said anything about it so this is going to be a new dialogue we're going to have with them it's going to be a continuing dialogue because we're not charging them for inspections so we could probably schedule them right now they're being charged for them but we're not going to charge them in the future when we take over so these are the kind of decisions that you have to make but it's some high dollar um fire protection systems that have been not only maintained but in some cases disassembled uh for years you know and they have not been marked identified inspected whatever so those are the going to be high dollar 20% that you're going to get a little push back from and so prepare yourselves because I mean we have to make those buildings safe our our our fire protection Crews seven they were going to be well trained they have all the equipment but we can't allow allow things to be in a hazardous condition that put them to work we try to avoid them going to work that's the the whole preemption thing Forward Thinking so uh in initially there's going to be some friction hopefully we get compliance and then we'll smooth things out over the years but it's the same way everywhere it was the same way in bokeron for many years and then we it took us a couple three four five years we'll start to learn that these things are what needs to happen and there something happen over here we'll have some friction beginning but then they're going to begin to understand that this we're not looking at it for us because we don't make any money off of it this is for your safety for your health and safety for the people that live in the building so I fully support that I mean yeah they just that safety is the most important yeah but it can become kind of uh you know vigorous so so you'll just prepare yourself you'll get complaints uh and we will give them as much time as they need uh I brought Matt here for a reason Matt is one of those guys that neg navigated all that stuff in bokeron so he knows how to talk to Condominiums he knows how to talk to the HOAs and give them the time that they need because we know what it costs and there's a huge lift with all the other stuff with uh reserves and the engineering inspections so we are cognizant of all those things we're not you know looking at it in the vacuum like hey this is fire you have to do this we looking at everything together and we want to give them enough time to get those changes made but what has to happen is at some point they have to have plan moving forward become compliant with all those requirements because it's for their own safety and the safety of the people have respond to those buildings thank you so we've got the the priorities I got some direction and guidance uh take a look at the CIP if you have any questions on projects we'll fine-tune as latter years become active years we'll get better pricing St five years from who knows exactly but uh I tasked Public Works surge you kind of kind of looked at where do we think those costs are going to be uh they work back with Public Safety so you'll see stuff that we've bought for fire that in five years tends to need to be replacement think of like extraction tools they're big enough that we need to capitalize them they're not big cost like oh my God we forgot it's just stuff that wears out over time uh stuff with the police uh camera security vehicle Replacements all that stuff is starting to get packed in here so because that is one of our critical strateg pries to maintain the assets which we are entrusted so how do we do that so that's in there in that plan and we'll we'll tweak it as we get into budget like is it really going to cost that much is it really that important so um we are blessed here that we don't have to make too heart of decisions when it comes to uh Capital planning but like as I had indicated when that discretionary sales tax ends in 25 we lose a chunk of money that's been good to take care of the little stuff if you will but we'll be able to do that um the water stuff has been is is we have a keep a pretty good eye on for the water plant water and sewer systems the distribution and collection systems so we we we're pretty good handle on those and we use our engineer and things we have to report on our our permits to operate so those numbers are pretty good and they're tied into our rate structure so we've allocated for some of those big tickets they like oh my gosh how we it's built into the rate structure for some of the stuff in the water plant we've already accounted for it and those rate increases so that's in the Enterprise fund so it's a good we we're getting there you know we're we're taking the next step so now we got a strategic plan here's a fully active CIP that all of this leads back then into our budget and our fiveyear forast model all our strategic alignment is coming together all the Departments are focused everybody's on point and on task and uh we're we're humming along sounds good and can um can it be posted to the website sure sure I'll get those up and again as I like I say in this it's like a working document because you never really get to a definitive start and stop with strategic planning or cfp it always continues to change and morph and grow and my goal would be to at least once a month the first meeting of the month is to hear some updates and kind of stay on that so we all get in that that process thinking of where do we go what have we done why is this falling behind where are the entry signs right I mean I get all the time right Chief where are the entry signs right so we kind of figure this you know they're in for permits they're not in for permits it didn't have the so some of those things once we we get to a point like where is it so um we're working on all those items just just for disclosure I presented I opened a discussion with Marshall as it relates to parking uh in my opinion big problem we all know it's a big problem especially for the daytoday parking for the L use and so forth and I ask that we re-evaluate and look at the old fire station strategically and if there's a opportunity for level parking with you multiply use of a lower level and perhaps could employee parking in that structure very expensive to do to look at what we do but I think it should be looked at because in the long run the residents they got to be accessible to the facilities and the amenities that we have for this one yeah because I've noticed that over the last couple of weeks even if we open up the eight spots that are left next to the fire station there are days here where there are no during the day there's just no open spots you know Lois still does get a lot of day-to-day traffic while it's trans uh you know Moves In and Out transient if you will so people stay longer and we've been a we had to change programming some of them was really popular daytime program we could we just can't provide we have nowhere to put people and we're not talking big events but you know you get 10 15 cars which isn't unreasonable there's times that we can't get 10 15 cards you might get two so to the vice mayor's point we we gonna have to at some point figure that's why I said building that relationship with the church has been good because I think from time to time we might have to start having staff actually park at the church all the time to free up some of that some of that spacing so um we probably should take a look at that and I think we'll be bringing some of our uh engineering contracts that you guys went for us negotiate that have some Architects and what maybe some site planning evaluations I know Kaufman Lynn said they would do one for free maybe I like those terms um so maybe we have them take a look and make some suggestions of what we would expect to do some things and just to have an idea moving forward because that is definitely a big CIP project if we were to do something parking garage building demolition redoing sight space can be very expensive very expensive and you all know especially the condo folks it's uh building anything of commercial size is a big task especially here on the coast so um well we have the the issue of um we have no um very limited day-to-day that you ju you just explained but also as far as any Community festivities I mean we we wanted to grow the communication and the community events so I think uh and David I think that's you know very good we we need to focus on that um so just to figure out how can we maximize uh the space if we have entertainment space where would it be I mean we were looking at that but I understand it's not for now to discuss it's going forward but even uh you know a leveled parking perhaps perhaps we we just need that y those are things we should look at see what how big of a leap would it be for us you know good moving on to Milani Park um um I I still have my one meeting uh to um to schedule and uh the our consultant is uh having those follow-up meetings um with the Commissioners so and we're monitoring the agendas uh to see if it does uh come up on the agenda but um hope to have more updates in the future those that feel like we're quiet or silent we're working on stuff that just not really much to report yet putting those next blocks in place and the next strategic steps okay okay moving on um resolution number 2024 d005 a resolution of the Town Commission of Highland Beach declaring the results of the municipal referendum ction held on March 19 2024 providing for an effective date so yes thank you to everyone who who came out and voted and supported uh the referendum questions so town clerk I guess is there we just make a motion on the resolution okay yeah so thank you all right excellent we could have a motion I move that we accept resolution number 20 24-5 second that commissioner David yes commissioner Goldberg yes commissioner Peters yes vice mayor Stern yes and mayor Moore yes motion carries thank you everyone uh next item Item B uh consideration of a proposed resolution of the Town Commission of Highland Beach naming the Highland Beach fire rescue building State station number 120 in honor of former mayor Douglas Hillman for having served served with distinction as the mayor of the town of Highland Beach from March 2020 through March 2023 and of course recognizing all all that he did in in establishing and um the the uh fire rescue department so this is if you will step one okay or it could be step one in the last step it's all up to you this is the um this is the appropriate lever to pull to start that process we pass a resolution now accompanying the resolution is how do we want to memorialize that resolution so that's um I've said some stuff folks have been like man maybe this that so we got to figure that part out um uh the preliminary conversation something in the lobby something more formal in the lobby so when the public goes into the fire station there is that formal recognition versus something big on the outside we don't want to take away from the general public knowing that it's the fire station or doing something that so you know is that where you want me to go we could get an architech to look at it have you seen something you liked those are the things we can do it won't be done you know in the next couple weeks but it's something we would move uh towards and I guess I'm just looking for a little guidance direction is where you'd like to look at it something you want to see should come as no surprise I'm a big proponent of this um I think the idea of having a picture and a little history inside the reception area but I also think we can do like right outside this building there's a tasteful plaque something like that so that something on the outside but not big not taken away from anything just Douglas Hillman Memorial firehouses something along those lines okay yeah I agree with that I definitely could see the inside um I'm just I was just pondering what would that you know I don't know what what would be outside I wouldn't want to take anything away from no it's like a we have a plaque outside just a plaque outside yeah oh okay yeah no something there's like one right here outside the library something similar to that something tasteful and a history would be wonderful honoring him this is an understated Town yeah and we don't want to deviate from that I me when you go through and you look at Christmas lights they're primarily white with a touch of color we don't have anybody wanting to be on The Great Christmas Light Fight in this town yeah that was fun um but it's funny you you say that because I was talking uh to Michael his son on Friday and talked about it and I said what you'll probably hear something that he used to always say under understated Elegance is something that kind of marks this town where it's not you know that gudy inyour face type of something but it's very nice it's that understated Elegance that kind of reminds you a fin Beach and I'll kind of use that as kind of the guide and give you some options and this but not this just so you guys can you know guide me in the right direction um of what what you'd want to see I agree with the comments I know we have a public comment yeah I I did have have some comments but your discussion actually came off closer to what I was going to say as opposed to what I thought the original intent of the resolution is because the resolution actually says you're naming the building and what I was going to say is that and I knew I was going to come off as being like mean-spirited and all this which I which which is not my intent because obviously I think Doug is uh both his stint on the uh Financial Advisory Board and then as a mayor he clearly worked very hard and accomplished a lot for the town so I think honoring him is good but in principle I'm not really in favor of naming major programs or buildings after individual which is I think was the intent of or well at least what the resolution originally stated was it was going to be the hman building basically and I'm kind of not not in favor of that I'm very in favor of of uh honoring people who have been a major service to the town I mean the the ways that I've seen that I think work best is the kind of thing you've mentioned I mean pretty much on every Civic building you'll see a plaque that that mentions the governing body at the time I mean I would certainly go further than just an additional plaque with mayor Hillman on top but in the lobby something that represents you know a a bronze plaque plus a portrait or a photo portrait of good size uh you know recognizing his quote you know foreship and Leadership uh foresight and leadership in the creation of the department or whatever language is uh meant to be uh I think would be a great way to uh do this rather than the actual naming of the whole building or of the or of the department and similarly I don't think it should be viewed as a one-off I think that uh as time goes on uh if there's ever you know I don't know what the exact plans are now but at one point there was going to be like a like a little Veterans Memorial out front on something like that I mean it shouldn't be the uh John Shoemaker Memorial but there should be a little plaque saying that uh you know he was should be H it in terms of his service and his advocacy for for veterans uh as time goes on the the town may see fit to do something honoring uh Peggy Sidman for her contributions during a difficult time of governance of the community uh followed by her contributions to the town as uh while serving in the state legislature or it may be something for uh Chief Joseph as things go well as the uh as the Founding Father of the uh fire department so the point being that I think that this is is an excellent way to set a precedent for people who uh really have uh gone above and beyond for the town but I think that it needs to be kept in perspective and my original thought when I saw the resolution your comments have really been much along with what I'm saying but my thoughts when I saw the original resolution was yeah we really want to do something to permanently honor Doug but like naming the whole building with a big thing on the at you know the hman building would not be the sort of thing that I think is appropriate that that's all thank you I don't think any of us thought we'd have a big name across the front of that was it was apparently my mistaken impression from the resolution which was I think had something about naming the building after me yes yes but not a big sign do we need to reword the resolution or you think you could I could bring it back at the 16th tweak it a little bit then give you some more hopefully I can get you some more options anybody that's got a great artistic view you want to share anything with me that would be great please don't let me pick colors or anything like that so um we could come up with a few things um I I I've talked with Mr Remis who took a picture that I remember uh Doug said the best picture anyone's ever takeen taken of me so that is the picture that we will yeah that's a on the on the mayor wall as well as in the I think because he liked it so much that would be a perfect piece and then a plaque and then some type of other story or photo documentation I think would be kind of neat to kind of when you walk in to see that so you so those in the public that are waiting to go upstairs to see one of the fir folks there's something that's the attraction or an education piece um that kind of documents our experience yeah the history of establishing our own fire department okay so I'll bring that back yep excellent thank you very much okay moving along to town commission comments commissioner Goldberg well we've had so much um significant business today and lots of comments I I particularly want to say with the referendum I think it shows uh by the consensus um that we have um real participation in the continued betterment um we dealt with significant Money Matters here and I think that it really showed that uh the residents have faith in our government and our our commission and I thank them for that I'm very proud to be a part of it thank you yeah just want to say it was nice seeing all the new officers and uh I feel old I remember the day I started uh and I'm looking forward and I can't wait for the 19th and ribbon cutting and seeing everybody and then I'm just looking forward thank you Chief I think it's a testament to that we must be doing something right that we don't have an audience full of people screaming at us and we come a long way huh oh we have really come a long way and yet we do we don't have a problem accepting people coming up with opinions that are different than ours we don't feel like we're being attacked but people are voicing their opinions and in a town like this people should be to voice their opinions because we are so small and even when we create ordinances more often than not they're in terms of well we can be a little lenient here and we can be a little lenient there because this town is a Kinder and gentler town and it works for us would it work for a bigger place I don't know probably not but it does do here so we should continue to Foster that I just I think it's a great place to live for all of those reasons I would also like to agree with those comments and I'd like to add that I think in watching the all of the meetings that we have really good advisory boards and they are really working hard and coming up with some good really good suggestions so I thank them as well yes absolutely and um a b big thank you to St Lucy church and father Horgan for allowing us to use uh the parking lot I mean that that has really helped us out tremendously and we just really appreciate it huh so now it's announcements and then we get to your report okay so I'll go through announcements well um board vacancies uh Board of adjustment and appeals board we have one vacancy for an unexpired term ending September 21st 2024 meetings and events we have our meeting today that we just uh had a and then April 9th at 1:00 we have the code enforcement board regular meeting and then April 11th at 9:30 in the morning we have the next planning board regular meeting there are no board action reports and now to town attorney anything uh no ma'am I I'm still looking through uh trying to digest all the new legislation that came out of last session so within the next couple weeks I'll probably bring that back to you as summary or things that we might have to change or tweak or whatever but that's coming and uh that's it thank you good to know manager um no major comments just uh you know it's in the Strategic plan that's what we're working on again the 19th or next big Target getting a a community event together um it'll be great uh we'll get some good food uh it's history in the making far as I'm concerned we've we've come a uh Long Way persevered a lot of uh criticisms and doubt to come out on the backside of it a better stronger Kindler gentler community that Renaissance that we kicked off here three four years ago um is really marked you know the our understated Elegance the biggest small town in South Florida three miles of paradise has really come together so I thank each of you uh for making this possible thank you Mar and with that at 3:41 we can adjourn thank you everyone