>>Karen Perez: THE BOARD WORKSHOP FOR MARCH 26 IS NOW BEGINNING. I WILL HAND IT OVER TO SUPERINTENDENT VAN AYRES. >>Van Ayres: THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. BOARD MEMBERS, THIS IS ONE -- WE HAVE THREE POLICY WORKSHOPS THAT ARE SCHEDULED THIS CALENDAR YEAR. THIS IS OUR FIRST OF THREE. SO THAT BEING SAID, WE DO HAVE A NUMBER OF POLICIES WE WANT TO WORK THROUGH TODAY. ONE BOARD MEMBER POLICY AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE SOME OTHER POLICIES THAT ARE BROUGHT FORWARD BY MY STAFF WHICH WE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO. WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, LET GET THIS MOVING AND TURN IT OVER WITH THE FIRST POLICY TO MR. PORTER. >>Jim Porter: THANK YOU, SUPERINTENDENT AND BOARD MEMBERS. AS YOU WILL RECALL, THE FIRST POLICY IS ON WIRELESS COMMUNICATION AND OTHER ELECTRONIC DEVICES. YOU MAY RECALL THAT LAST YEAR WAS COMBS AND MS. GRAY WAS COMBS AND MS. GRAY BROUGHT FORWARD A POLICY DEALING WITH THIS AND GENERATED A LOT OF DISCUSSION, A LOT OF REALLY GOOD DISCUSSION. ONE OF THE TAKEAWAYS FROM THE EARLIER POLICY WORKSHOP THAT A SURVEY BE DONE OF PARENTS, STAFF, TEACHERS, TO FIND OUT WHERE PEOPLE REALLY STOOD ON THIS. YOU ALSO HAD A LOT OF FEEDBACK ON IT. BASED ON THAT, MS. GRAY AND MS. COMBS MS. COMBS BRINGING THE POLICY BACK. WE LOOKED AT THE FEEDBACK WE RECEIVED FROM THE SURVEYS. WE LOOKED SPECIFICALLY AT ORANGE COUNTY WHO HAS ADOPTED A COUNTY WHO HAS ADOPTED A SIMILAR TYPE OF POLICY AS WELL TYPE OF POLICY AS WELL AS PASCO COUNTY. WHAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU IS THE RESULT OF THAT. SINCE THIS HAS BEEN DRAFTED, THE SUPERINTENDENT HAS SOME COMMENTS HE'S GOING TO MAKE ABOUT PERHAPS REVISING IT. BECAUSE THIS IS A WORKSHOP, YOU ARE GOING TO WRESTLE WITH THIS, AND IT IS A TOPIC THAT IS A BIG TOPIC, NOT ONLY IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, BUT IN THE COUNTRY. IT'S REALLY WHAT YOU SHOULD BE DOING AT A WORKSHOP FOR POLICY. SETTING POLICY. IT'S IMPORTANT. IT IS A BIG ISSUE. TODAY WE'RE REALLY INTERESTED IN HEARING THE FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVE FROM THE BOARD. AGAIN, IT CAN BE TWEAKED. IT CAN BE REWORKED, ANYTHING YOU WANT BECAUSE IT IS YOUR POLICY. WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MS. GRAY. >>Lynn Gray: THIS IS THE POLICY REGARDING THE CELL PHONE USAGE. HUMOR ME FOR ABOUT THREE MINUTES, I'LL GO THROUGH THE RATIONALE. THE AVERAGE AGE NOW IS AT 10 YEARS OLD WHO ARE BEING EXPOSED TO TO SEXTING, OBSCENE MATERIAL, IMAGES OF PRIVATE BODY PARTS SENT TO THEIR CLASSMATES, PORNOGRAPHY SITES AND SOCIAL MEDIA SITES. SUCH AS DISNEY PORN, TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. OUR TAMPA BAY REGION IS THIRD IN THE NATION AS A METROPOLITAN CITY OF HUMAN CITY OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING. I WANT TO THANK MEMBER NADIA COMBS, OUR HILLSBOROUGH HEALTHY SCHOOLS SCHOOLS SURVEY, OUR HUMAN TRAFFIC COMMITTEE AND STUDENT SAFETY COMMITTEE FOR THE AMOUNT OF STATISTICS I'LL SHARE. THE MENTAL TOLL OF OUR YOUTH THE MENTAL TOLL OF OUR YOUTH IS CLEAR. REPORTED FROM 2022 TO REPORTED FROM 2022 TO 2023, 55% OF THE SUICIDE CALLS ARE OF THE SUICIDE CALLS ARE RELATED TO THE CALLS, THE SOCIAL MEDIA SITES ON THEIR PHONE. THEY IDENTIFIED BULLYING AS THE TOP CONCERN. THE NATIONAL CENTER FOR THE NATIONAL CENTER FOR MISSING AND AND EXPLOITED CHILDREN REPORTS CHILD SEXUAL ASSAULT MATERIAL MADE UP OF 99% OF THE INCIDENTS RECORDED ON THE TIP LINE LAST YEAR, WHICH IS YEAR, WHICH IS A 73% INCREASE FROM 2021. REMEMBER, THAT IS THE REMEMBER, THAT IS THE COVID YEAR. INCIDENTS WERE CHILD PORNOGRAPHY, CHILD SEX TRAFFICKING, OBSCENE MATERIALS SENT VIA SOCIAL MEDIA SITES, WORDS OR IMAGES ON ONLINE MOLESTATION OF CHILDREN, PHOTOS OF CHILDREN SENT ONLINE WITH VISUAL BODY PARTS. ARE THE STUDENTS SAFE? JOSHUA CRYSTAL, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS WHO WORKS ON THE ON THE DISCIPLINE, ON THE DISCIPLINE, 2022 TO ON THE DISCIPLINE, 2022 TO 2023, 5,639 STUDENTS FROM SOCIAL MEDIA MISUSE OF ELECTRONIC DEVICES WERE WERE FIGHTING. FIGHTS WERE CAUSED THROUGH THAT CONDUIT. IN THIS YEAR, UP TO MARCH 14th, NOW, REMEMBER, LAST WEEK, UP TO MARCH 14th, AND THIS GOES FROM GRADES ONE, FIRST GRADE, TO 12th GRADE. WE'RE NOT DONE WITH THE SCHOOL YEAR. 5,232 FIGHTS ALREADY FROM THE USE OR THE MISUSE OF CELL PHONES. LEGISLATIVE TRENDING -- AND THIS IS PROBABLY VERY SIGNIFICANT AND WHY I KIND OF WAITED A LITTLE BIT TO REVOLVE -- TO MAKE IT MORE MORE SUPPORTIVE FOR OUR PRINCIPALS AND FOR OUR SUPERINTENDENT AND FOR OUR BOARD MEMBERS. FROM THE FLORIDA SENATE -- AND THIS IS IN 2023 -- FOR STUDENTS IN GRADES 6 THROUGH 12, THE NEGATIVE SOCIAL, EMOTIONAL, AND PHYSICAL EFFECTS THAT WE FIND FROM SOCIAL MEDIA SITES INCLUDE DEPRESSION, ANXIETY, PHONE ADDICTION, AND A LOT VIA DISTRIBUTION OF DISTRIBUTION OF MISINFORMATION ON SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS, ALL WHICH SERVE TO MANIPULATE BEHAVIOR, ALLOW BEHAVIOR, ALLOW PERMANENCY OF YOUTH TIED TO YOUTH TIED TO NEFARIOUS ACTIONS ON SOCIAL PLATFORMS, IN OTHER WORDS, WHAT'S ON WORDS, WHAT'S ON THAT PHONE DOESN'T DISAPPEAR. IT BECOMES RATHER PERMANENT. ALL OF THAT RESULTS IN THE LACK OF PERSONAL SECURITY DUE TO, AGAIN, THE SAME TYPE OF WORDS. CYBERBULLYING, PREDATORY BEHAVIOR, AND HUMAN TRAFFICKING. MORE LEGISLATIVE TRENDING. FLORIDA FLORIDA STATUTE 1,006.07 REQUIRES THAT DISTRICT SCHOOL BOARD CODES OF STUDENT CONDUCT INCLUDE A PROHIBITION AGAINST STUDENTS USING WIRELESS COMMUNICATION DEVICES DURING INSTRUCTIONAL TIME AND AUTHORIZATION FOR TEACHERS TO WITHHOLD A STUDENT'S WITHHOLD A STUDENT'S DEVICE WITH AN EXCEPTION FOR USE AT THE DIRECTION OF THAT TEACHER. HOUSE BILL 3 YESTERDAY, MANY OF YOU ARE YOU ARE FAMILIAR, AND THIS HAS ALL BEEN TRENDING FOR I'D SAY TWO YEARS. THE BILL WAS THE BILL WAS MODIFIED JUST RECENTLY. GOVERNOR DESANTIS, BIPARTISAN BILL -- I'M JUST ABOUT DONE -- FLORIDA FOLLOWS A HANDFUL OF OTHER STATES FROM CALIFORNIA TO ARKANSAS THAT HAVE PLACED SIMILAR LIMITS ON KIDS' SOCIAL MEDIA MEDIA USE IN RESPONSE TO RISING RATES OF TEEN RATES OF TEEN DEPRESSION AND SUICIDE, AS MEMBER PEREZ IS VERY FAMILIAR WITH. VARIOUS SCHOOL DISTRICTS HAVE PUT TOGETHER TIGHTER POLICIES REGARDING CELL PHONE USE IN SCHOOLS. THE PASCO THE PASCO COUNTY, PINELLAS HAS A LITTLE BIT MORE, ORANGE COUNTY FOR SURE. I JUST SPOKE TO THE ORANGE COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER, AND SHE HAS ALSO SAID THE FIGHTING, THE BULLYING, THE THE BULLYING, THE ACADEMICS HAVE GREATLY IMPROVED. YOU CAN GO TO GRECO PRINCIPAL, GREATLY IMPROVED. YOU CAN GO TO WEBB PRINCIPAL, GREATLY IMPROVED. YOU CAN GO TO BALLAST POINT, THAT'S AN ELEMENTARY, GREATLY IMPROVED. SOCIAL MEDIA SITES -- I DON'T WANT TO USE THE WORD KILLING, BUT DAMAGING OUR PSYCH OF OUR CHILDREN, MY GRANDCHILDREN. ALL RIGHT. LASTLY, AND VERY IMPORTANTLY, BECAUSE WE'RE EDUCATORS, ACADEMICS, AS A TEACHER AND MANY OF YOU HAVE BEEN TEACHERS, HOW DO YOU TEACH WHEN YOU HAVE A COMPETITION FROM A CELL PHONE THAT IS THAT IS PLAYING AROUND WITH NUDE PARTS OF A BODY TAKEN IN THE RESTROOM. SHARED. FIGHTING TYPES OF -- WE'RE GOING TO MEET AT AL LOPEZ FIELD. I CAN GIVE YOU A LOT OF EXAMPLES BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT OUR STUDENT ONLINE SAFETY ONLINE SAFETY DOES. HOW CAN HOW CAN STUDENTS LEARN? SUPERINTENDENT SUPERINTENDENT VAN AYRES, YOU WANT THOSE "D" AND "F" SCORES TO GO UP. WELL, YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER, IF YOU HAVE COMPETITION FROM A CELL PHONE, YOU ARE GOING TO BE COMPROMISED AS WE ALL WILL BE BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT PAYING ATTENTION IF THEY ARE HAVING CELL PHONE ADDICTION. AND THAT'S THE PLAIN AND SIMPLE WAY OF PUTTING IT. ASK YOURSELVES, EVERY ONE OF US, WOULD ACADEMIC PERFORMANCE INCREASE WHEN CELL PHONES ARE REMOVED IN SCHOOLS? ABSOLUTELY. I HAVE THE DATA THAT SUPPORTS THAT. THAT'S IMPORTANT. WILL THEIR MENTAL DISPOSITION, ANXIETY, DEPRESSION BE MITIGATED? ABSOLUTELY. THE DATA IS OVERWHELMING. NOW, BY THE WAY, I JUST THANK EVERY SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER FOR THEIR INPUT COMING FORTH BECAUSE I WELCOME IT AND I THINK WE ALL DO AND THAT DO AND THAT DISCUSSION IS CRITICAL AS WE PUT CRITICAL AS WE PUT TOGETHER THE POLICY. MR. PORTER, I WAS ASKED BY A MR. PORTER, I WAS ASKED BY A FEW PRINCIPALS, ONE OF THEM WAS DR. WHELAN, TO PUT IN WITH THE APPROVAL OF THEIR APPROVAL OF THEIR REGION SUPERINTENDENT AND BASED SUPERINTENDENT AND BASED ON SPECIFIC FACTS AND CIRCUMSTANCES, A SCHOOL PRINCIPAL MAY IMPOSE MORE RESTRICTIVE CONDITIONS AT THEIR SCHOOL. IN OTHER WORDS, GIVING THE SCHOOL PRINCIPAL A LITTLE BIT MORE FREEDOM TO MAKE MORE RESTRICTIONS. >>Patti Rendon: THANK YOU, MEMBER GRAY. I DO AGREE THAT CELL PHONES CONTRIBUTE TO A LOT OF VARIOUS THINGS WITHIN OUR SCHOOLS. I DO ALSO SEE A DIFFERENCE, ANOTHER SIDE AS WELL. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER POLICY WHATEVER POLICY WE AS A DISTRICT CREATE IS GOING TO CREATE IS GOING TO AMPLIFY BOTH TEACHER SUPPORT AND PRINCIPAL SUPPORT. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT TEACHERS HAVE CONTROL OF THEIR CLASSROOMS AND PRINCIPALS HAVE CONTROL OF THEIR SCHOOLS AND WE SHOULD NEVER CREATE A POLICY THAT'S GOING TO LIMIT THAT. I DO APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT WHEN WE CREATED THIS WHEN WE CREATED THIS POLICY, WE DO REFERENCE FLORIDA DO REFERENCE FLORIDA STATUTE 1,006.07 TOO. HOWEVER, IN 2023, THIS POLICY WAS ACTUALLY UPDATED BY HOUSE BILL 379. BASED UPON HOUSE BILL 379, THERE ARE A FEW CHANGES I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE TO THIS POLICY. AND IN ACCORDANCE TO, AND WE REFERENCE MULTIPLE TIMES WHERE WE TALK ABOUT FOR PURPOSES OF THIS SECTION THIS SECTION IN LINE THIS SECTION IN LINE NUMBER 11, THE DEMONSTRATED AREA TO BE IN A STUDENT'S STUDENT'S BACKPACK AND/OR PURSE EXCEPT WHEN EXPRESSLY DIRECTED BY A TEACHER. ONE, I WOULD ADD IN THERE, AND/OR ADMIN STAFF. ANY SCHOOL PERSONNEL -- NOT PERSONNEL -- ANY ADMINISTRATION OR TEACHER SHOULD HAVE THAT ABILITY. HOWEVER, IN THAT STATUTE HOWEVER, IN THAT STATUTE UNDER 379, 379, UNDERLINE 14, AUTHORIZING TEACHERS AND OTHER INSTRUCTIONAL PERSONNEL TO DESIGNATE AN AREA FOR WIRELESS COMMUNICATION DURING INSTRUCTIONAL TIME. SO THE LAW DOESN'T LIMIT IT TO JUST BACK PACKS AND PURSES. AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE FOCUS ON WHAT THE LAW SAYS AND GIVE THAT TEACHER AND AND GIVE THAT TEACHER AND THAT ADMINISTRATION FLEXIBILITY ON WHERE THEY CHOOSE TO STORE THOSE DEVICES.  SO THAT WOULD BE A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE WOULD TAKE DIRECTLY FROM LAW AND GIVE THE FLEXIBILITY BACK TO THE FLEXIBILITY BACK TO THE TEACHER AND THE PRINCIPAL. >>Jim Porter: JUST SO I UNDERSTAND, SO YOU WOULD BE -- WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE IF IT WASN'T IN THEIR BACKPACK? ARE YOU THINKING THEY WOULD BE -- >>Patti Rendon: WE HAVE SOME TEACHERS THAT ALLOW -- FOR EXAMPLE, WHERE THEY HAVE LIKE A SHOE POCKET. THE BOTTOM LINE IS OUR POLICY SHOULD BE FRIENDLY TO A TEACHER AND TO A SCHOOL ADMIN. >>Jim Porter: THAT'S HELPFUL. >>Patti Rendon: THEY ARE RUNNING THEIR CLASSROOMS. THEY ARE RUNNING THEIR SCHOOLS. HUNDRED PERCENT IN AGREEMENT WITH MS. GRAY THAT WE HAVE TO LIMIT SCREEN TIME USAGE, LIMIT SCREEN TIME USAGE, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DO THAT WITH GIVING THE AUTHORITY TO THE TEACHER AND TO THE PRINCIPAL ON HOW THEY DO THAT PER THEIR SCHOOL BY MAINTAINING OUR POLICY THAT IT'S NOT TO BE USED DURING INSTRUCTIONAL TIME. THE LAW DOES SPECIFICALLY STATE THAT THE CELL PHONE SHOULD NOT BE IN USE DURING INSTRUCTIONAL TIME WITH THE EXCEPTION OF WHEN A TEACHER GIVES PERMISSION. AND I THINK THAT'S THE KEY ELEMENT THAT WHATEVER THE POLICY IS, WE MAKE SURE WE GIVE THAT AUTHORITY BACK TO THE TEACHER AND THE PRINCIPAL FOR THEM TO DESIGNATE HOW IT IS. THEY ARE ALL PROFESSIONALS AND WE'VE GIVEN THEIR STUDENTS TO THEIR CARE. >>Jim Porter: THANK YOU. >>Patti Rendon: SO IN THAT PARTICULAR LINE ITEM, LIKE I SAID, IT WAS LINE ITEM IN THE LAW, 14 THROUGH 16. ALSO, IN THAT SAME ALSO, IN THAT SAME LAW, LINES 25 THROUGH 29, IT SPECIFICALLY STATES, PROHIBIT STUDENTS FROM WIRELESS COMMUNICATION DEVICES DURING INSTRUCTIONAL TIME, PROVIDING AN EXCEPTION, REQUIRING A TEACHER TO DESIGNATE AN AREA FOR WIRELESS COMMUNICATION DEVICES DURING -- TIME, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. AGAIN IT REINFORCES THE FACT THAT TEACHERS SHOULD HAVE THAT DESIGNATED TIME. I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO -- ALSO, IF WE ALSO, IF WE LOOK AT LINE OF THAT STATUTE, AUTHORITY OF TEACHERS, RESPONSIBILITY FOR CONTROL OF STUDENTS, DISTRICT SCHOOL BOARD AND PRINCIPAL DUTIES SUBJECT TO LAW AND THE RULE OF THE DISTRICT SCHOOL BOARD, EACH TEACHER OR OTHER MEMBER OF THE STAFF OF ANY SCHOOL SHALL HAVE SUCH AUTHORITY FOR THE CONTROL AND FOR THE CONTROL AND DISCIPLINE OF STUDENTS AS MAY BE ASSIGNED TO HIM OR HER BY THE PRINCIPAL OR PRINCIPAL'S DESIGNATED REPRESENTATIVE AND SHALL KEEP GOOD GOOD ORDER IN CLASSROOMS AND OTHER PLACES OTHER PLACES IN WHICH HE OR SHE IS ASSIGNED TO BE IN IS ASSIGNED TO BE IN CHARGE OF STUDENTS. LINE ITEM 101 TO 110, LINE ITEM 101 TO 110, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THIS SECTION AND WITHIN THE FRAMEWORK OF THE DISTRICT SCHOOL BOARD CODE OF STUDENT CONDUCT, TEACHERS AND OTHER INSTRUCTIONAL PERSONNEL SHALL HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO UNDERTAKE ANY OF THE FOLLOWING ACTIONS IN MANAGING STUDENT BEHAVIOR AND ENSURING THE SAFETY OF ALL STUDENTS IN THEIR CLASSES AND SCHOOL AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN IN AN ORDERLY AND DISCIPLINED CLASSROOM. ESTABLISH CLASSROOM RULES OF CONDUCT, INCLUDING CONDUCT, INCLUDING DESIGNATED AREAS OF WIRELESS COMMUNITY DEVICES DURING INSTRUCTIONAL TIME. IN ACCORDANCE TO THE NEW LAW WHICH WENT INTO FURTHER DETAIL, FLORIDA FLORIDA STATUTE 1,006.7, THIS GAVE A LITTLE MORE CLARITY AND A LITTLE MORE AUTHORITY TO BOTH THE TEACHER AND TO THE PRINCIPAL. SO IN ACCORDANCE TO THAT, I WANT TO MAKE A FEW CHANGES IN THAT. IN LOOKING AT LINE 7 WHICH WE SAY DESIGNATED BY A TEACHER, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD AND/OR ADMIN OR RESPONSIBLE OR RESPONSIBLE PERSONNEL OF THE SCHOOL. >>Jim Porter: GOT IT. >>Patti Rendon: THE NEXT SECTION, SECTION 8, IT SAYS SOLELY FOR EDUCATIONAL SOLELY FOR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES. NOW, HUNDRED PERCENT AGREEMENT THAT WE DON'T WANT CELL THAT WE DON'T WANT CELL PHONES TO BE OUT JUST IN GENERAL. GIVING TEACHERS AND ADMINISTRATION AUTHORITY TO DO THAT, IT DOES GIVE THE USE FOR OUTSIDE EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES. FOR EXAMPLE, IN MANY OF OUR HIGH SCHOOLS TODAY, THEY ARE USING THEIR ELECTRONIC DEVICES TO ACTUALLY PULL UP THE STUDENT CODE OF CONDUCT. THEY ARE USING THEIR ELECTRONIC DEVICES WHEN THEY ARE VOTING ON HOMECOMING. WHEN THEY ARE VOTING ON WHEN THEY ARE VOTING ON STUDENT COUNCIL, WHEN THEY ARE VOTING OR TAKING A SURVEY THAT WE AS A DISTRICT HAVE PROVIDED THEM. SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE GIVE FLEXIBILITY AGAIN TO BOTH OUR TEACHERS AND OUR ADMINISTRATION FOR THEIR JUDGMENT ON WHEN THAT CELL PHONE IS USED. BY PUTTING IN HERE SOLELY FOR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES, WE LIMIT THEIR AUTHORITY. SO THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION, TO GIVE THE PRINCIPAL AND THE TEACHER THE AUTHORITY. AGAIN, IN LINE NUMBER 11, WE ADDRESSED THAT WE SHOULD NOT BE DESIGNATING EXACTLY WHERE. IN LINE NUMBER 12, SOLELY FOR EDUCATIONAL -- DIRECTED BY A TEACHER AND/OR ADMIN OR RESPONSIBLE PERSONNEL, HOWEVER WE WANT TO WORD THAT. AND THEN SOLELY FOR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES. AGAIN, I WOULD REMOVE THAT LINE, GIVING THE AUTHORITY TO THE PRINCIPAL AND TO THE TEACHER ON HOW AND WHICH THEY DESIGNATE IT. THIS POLICY REMOVES CELL PHONES FROM THE USE PERIOD EXCEPT WHEN DESIGNATED BY A TEACHER OR SCHOOL ADMINISTRATION. I THINK THAT'S MS. GRAY'S PURPOSE IS TO REALLY REMOVE IT FROM JUST BEING OUT THERE AND BEING ABLE TO BE BEING ABLE TO BE USED IN GENERAL FOR ANY PURPOSES. PUTTING IT BACK ON THE TEACHER AND THE SCHOOL PRINCIPAL, WE GIVE THEM THE AUTHORITY THAT THEY SO DESERVE. THE OTHER THING IS, IN LINE NUMBER 16, WE WORD IT IN SUCH A WAY THAT WE SAY THAT IF THE CELL PHONE IS USED IN A CRIMINAL ACT SUCH AS SUCH AS SEXTING OR ONLINE FOR FLORIDA STATUTES AND/OR CODE, THE CELL PHONE WILL BE PROVIDED TO LAW ENFORCEMENT. I I WOULD PUT A PERIOD THERE AND I WOULD THEN ADD A WOULD THEN ADD A STUDENT MAY BE -- MAY HAVE CONSEQUENCE -- MAY HAVE CRIMINAL PENALTIES IF USED IN A CRIMINAL ACT. THAT GOES DIRECTLY BACK THAT GOES DIRECTLY BACK TO THE LAW AND WORDING EXACTLY AS THE LAW HAS INTENDED. I'M AFRAID THAT IF WE LEAVE IT THE WAY IT IS AND STUDENT MAY FACE CRIMINAL PENALTIES, IT PUTS THE RESPONSIBILITY ON US AS A DISTRICT AND NOT ON LAW ENFORCEMENT. BY HAVING IT AS A SEPARATE SENTENCE, WE SENTENCE, WE DESIGNATED OUT THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THOSE PENALTIES AND NOT THE AND NOT THE DISTRICT. IN LINE AGAIN 19-20, AGAIN SOLELY FOR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSE, JUST FOR THE PURPOSE OF REMOVAL. THE OTHER THING I WANT TO MAKE NOTICE OF IS WHEN WE DID OUR INSIGHT SURVEY LAST YEAR, WE PROVIDED A QUESTION, WHAT ARE THE REASONS IN WHICH YOU WOULD STAY AS A PRINCIPAL. ONE, THEY SAID INSPIRING LEADERSHIP. INSPIRING IMMEDIATE SUPERVISOR, POSITIVE SCHOOL CULTURE AND LEARNING ENVIRONMENT, OPPORTUNITY FOR ADVOCACY -- I MEAN, I'M SORRY, FOR MEAN, I'M SORRY, FOR ADVANCEMENT IN CAREER OPPORTUNITIES. THEY WANT TO FEEL SAFE AND THEY WANT TO FEEL WANT TO FEEL SUPPORTED. THEY WANT DEVELOPMENT THEY WANT DEVELOPMENT OF A SUPPORTED AND TO IMPROVE LEADERSHIP SKILLS. THEY WANT THE AUTHORITY TO MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT THEIR SCHOOL AND THEIR CLASSROOM. THEY WANT TO BE RECOGNIZED AND RESPECT. THEY WANT TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE POSITIVE IMPACT ON STUDENTS' OUTCOMES. I THINK BY CHANGING THESE WORDINGS IN THIS POLICY, IT STILL HAS THE SAME INTENT, MS. GRAY, AS I BELIEVE YOU INTENDED IT TO BE FOR THE SAFETY OF THE STUDENTS AND REMOVING DEVICES JUST TO BEING OUT AT SCHOOL SO THEY ARE SCHOOL SO THEY ARE NOT ACCESSING CONTENT AND YET STILL PROVIDES THE AUTHORITY, THE RESPECT TO THE TEACHER AND TO THE ADMINISTRATORS OF THE SCHOOL. THAT'S WHERE MY CHANGES COME FROM. I ALSO WANT TO MAKE NOTE TO THE DISTRICT AND ANYONE LISTENING HERE RIGHT NOW, WE DO HAVE PROCEDURES IN PLACE THROUGH OUR I.T. DEPARTMENT THAT ARE SAFEGUARDING OUR STUDENTS FROM NOT ACCESSING THOSE SOCIAL MEDIA SITES WHILE ON CAMPUSES, SITES WHILE ON CAMPUSES, USING ANY OF OUR DEVICES, USING ANY OF OUR WIFI. IF A STUDENT IS ACCESSING THOSE DEVICES, THEY ARE DOING IT THROUGH THE PERMISSION OF THEIR PARENTS WHO HAVE NOT DEEMED THEIR PERSONAL DEVICES TO BE PROHIBITED FROM ACCESSING THOSE SITES. IF THEY TRY TO USE OUR SOCIAL MEDIA OR IF THEY TRY TO -- I'M SORRY, OUR INTERNET, THEY WILL BE LIMITED FROM ACCESSING THOSE SITES. I THINK THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR FAMILIES TO KNOW THAT WE HAVE TAKEN THOSE SECURITIES AND THOSE PRECAUTIONS WITHIN OUR SCHOOL. I ALSO WANT TO MAKE NOTE THAT HOUSE BILL 3 THAT WAS JUST PASSED DOES LIMIT THE ACCESS OR PERMISSION FROM STUDENTS TO ACCESS SOCIAL MEDIA SITES UNDER THE AGE OF 14 UNLESS GIVEN SPECIFIC PERMISSION FOR 13 AND 14 BY THEIR PARENTS. WE AS A SCHOOL DISTRICT ARE NOT TRYING TO DO YOUR PARENTS' JOBS, BUT WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT YOUR STUDENTS ARE THAT YOUR STUDENTS ARE GETTING A PROPER EDUCATION IN OUR SCHOOLS AND GIVING OUR TEACHERS AND OUR ADMINISTRATORS THE AUTHORITY TO DO SUCH THING. THANK YOU, MS. GRAY AND MS. COMBS FOR BRINGING THIS. I THINK IT IS A VERY GOOD POLICY. I THINK IT I THINK IT EMPHASIZES OUR DISTRICT CULTURE AS TO THE FACT THAT ATTENDANCE AND ACADEMICS ARE OUR FIRST ARE OUR FIRST PRIORITY YET GIVING TEACHERS AND PERMISSION THE ABILITY TO USE ELECTRONIC DEVICES AS THIS IS A NEW DAY AND NEW TIME THAT DEVICES ARE GOING TO BE USED, BUT DOING IT IN A HEALTHY MANNER POSSIBLE FOR STUDENTS. THANK YOU. >>Jim Porter: THANK YOU. I HAVE MS. VAUGHN NEXT AND THEN MS. GRAY, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK? >>Lynn Gray: LET HER SPEAK BEFORE ME. >>Jim Porter: MS. VAUGHN. OKAY. THEN MS. COMBS. >>Nadia Combs: I HAVE TO SAY I APPRECIATE THE CHANGES. I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. I THINK THAT OFTEN AS BOARD MEMBERS OR EVEN AS DISTRICT PERSONNEL, SOMETIMES YOU GET MORE AND MORE REMOVED FROM THE DAY-TO-DAY ACTIVITIES. SOMETIMES IT'S EASY TO PASS DIFFERENT RULES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, NOT REALIZING HOW IT REALLY IMPACTS TEACHERS DAY TO DAY. WE REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PRINCIPALS AND THE TEACHERS HAVE THE CONTROL OF THAT AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. THE ONLY THING IS, I THINK SOMETIMES, SOME OF THIS I'D LIKE TO HAVE A LITTLE MORE CLARITY ON WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AT EACH LEVEL, LIKE ELEMENTARY, MIDDLE SCHOOL, AND THE HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL. THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I JUST WANT -- I THINK WE CAN ADD THAT. WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? DOES THAT MEAN THAT HIGH SCHOOL KIDS WILL NOT HAVE A PHONE ACCESS AT LUNCH? THOSE ARE BIG QUESTIONS. LIKE, WHAT DOES THAT REALLY LOOK LIKE? SO I THINK WE COULD PROBABLY HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE CLEAN LANGUAGE ON WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE FOR ELEMENTARY, MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL. THOSE ARE THOSE ARE VERY, VERY THREE DIFFERENT THINGS. I HAVE TO SAY THAT I HAVE A VERY STRONG FEELING ABOUT CELL PHONES AS EVERYONE KNOWS. I TALKED ABOUT IT A LOT. I WILL SAY AT OUR STUDENT FORUM THIS YEAR, WHEN WE HAD THE MIDDLE SCHOOL AND HIGH SCHOOL FORUM, I DID TALK ABOUT CELL PHONES A LOT WITH MY GROUP OF STUDENTS BECAUSE IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME. AS I SAID, I THINK BEING ON THE GROUND IS VERY DIFFERENT THAN BEING HERE. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT A LOT OF THE HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS SAID TO ME, NOW, MIDDLE SCHOOL IS VERY DIFFERENT, BUT I THINK HIGH SCHOOL, ONE OF THE THINGS THEY SAID, THE CHALLENGING SAID, THE CHALLENGING PART WAS HOW OFTEN THEY HAD TO USE THEIR PHONES PHONES BECAUSE OF THE PROBLEMS WITHOUT HAVING ONE ON ONE TABLETS AND BECAUSE OF TECHNOLOGY AND WIFI AND EVERYTHING BEING SLOW. I THINK IN SOME WAYS THAT CAN INTERFERE WITH THE LEARNING. I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT HIGH SCHOOL A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY THAN THE ELEMENTARY AND MIDDLE SCHOOL. SO THAT'S ONE I THINK I WOULD RECOMMEND. THE OTHER THING THE OTHER THING IS, I THINK ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT SCHOOLS ARE HAVING ARE THE EAR BUDS. THOSE ARE HUGE ISSUES NOW THAT WEREN'T HAPPENING BEFORE. YOU COULD WALK INTO A SCHOOL, INTO A HIGH SCHOOL, AND YOU SEE KIDS WALKING AROUND WITH EAR PODS, LIKE THEY ARE IN THE MALL OR SOMETHING. IT'S INSANE TO ME THAT THEY IT'S INSANE TO ME THAT THEY ARE WALKING AROUND AND IT'S BECOME A BIGGER AND BIGGER ISSUE WITH THE EAR PODS. I THINK HIGH SCHOOL TEACHERS ARE TALKING ABOUT THAT. PRINCIPALS ARE TALKING ABOUT THAT. WE NEED TO DIFFERENTIATE AND TALK ABOUT THAT AS WELL. I THINK WE'LL SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON THIS, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET THIS SURE WE GET THIS RIGHT BECAUSE THIS IS A VERY, VERY IMPORTANT POLICY. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IMPACTS EVERY SINGLE CHILD, EVERY SINGLE TEACHER, EVERY SINGLE ADMINISTRATOR. SO I DON'T WANT TO -- I THINK WE NEED TO GET THIS DONE, READY TO GO SO THAT WAY NEXT YEAR IN THE SCHOOL YEAR, WE HAVE A REALLY STRONG POLICY. BUT I THINK IT MAY TAKE A COUPLE OF TIMES TO GET THIS EXACTLY THE WAY WE NEED IT. THANK YOU. >>Jim Porter: MR. WASHINGTON. >>Henry "Shake" Washington: THANK YOU. I THINK WE ALL HAVE GREAT COMMENTS ON THE CELL PHONE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M CONCERNED WITH AND BEING A FORMER ADMINISTRATOR, WHEN WE MAKE POLICIES, IT SOUNDS GREAT TO SET UP AND SAY WE CAN DO THIS AND DO THAT, AND DO THAT, BUT WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO MAN THOSE POLICIES. WHEN YOU MAN THOSE POLICIES, SOMETIMES YOU ARE PUTTING TEACHERS AND ADMINISTRATORS AT POINT. MY SUGGESTION IS, I'M JUST SAYING THIS FOR ME, I THINK ALL SCHOOLS ARE DIFFERENT. SOME SCHOOLS USE CELL PHONES AND WAY MORE THAN OTHER SCHOOLS. I THINK IT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY TO GIVE SOME RESPONSIBILITY, AND I AGREE WITH THE PRINCIPAL AND THE TEACHERS AT THE SCHOOL BECAUSE WHEN WE SIT UP HERE AND MAKE A POLICY, WE TRY TO MAKE IT ONE BLANK POLICY, AND YOU CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE SCHOOLS ARE DIFFERENT. LIKE I WENT INTO A SCHOOL THE OTHER DAY, THEY DIDN'T HAVE NO CELL PHONES. I WENT TO ANOTHER SCHOOL, KIDS DID USE CELL PHONES BUT USED IT AT THE LUNCHTIME. EVERYBODY HAVE THEIR OWN UNIQUE WAY. I SUGGEST THAT WE LET THE SCHOOLS AND THE PRINCIPALS MAKE THAT DECISION, HOW THEY WANT THAT DECISION, HOW THEY WANT TO USE IT IN THEIR PARTICULAR SCHOOLS. THANK THANK YOU. >>Jim Porter: THANK YOU. MS. VAUGHN. >>Jessica Vaughn: THANK YOU. CAN YOU HEAR CAN YOU HEAR ME? YEAH, YOU CAN HEAR ME. >> YES. >>Jessica Vaughn: OKAY. FIRST, THANK YOU FOR -- PABLO FOR SETTING THIS UP SO I COULD STILL PARTICIPATE WITHOUT PHYSICALLY BEING THERE. SECONDLY, I APPRECIATE ALL MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS' COMMENTS ABOUT THIS. I REALLY WANTED TO HEAR WHAT A LOT OF MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS SAID BEFORE ASKING SOME OF MY QUESTIONS BECAUSE I HAVE QUESTIONS BECAUSE I HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT THIS POLICY BUT I'VE GOTTEN LOTS OF FEEDBACK FROM THE LAST TIME WE BROUGHT THIS FORWARD. FROM THE LAST TIME WE BROUGHT THIS FORWARD AT THE THIS FORWARD AT THE WORKSHOP, I HAD BOTH TEACHERS AND PARENTS REACH OUT TO ME WITH QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS TO GIVE ME FEEDBACK ON THIS. OBVIOUSLY, FROM THE SURVEY DATA, IT'S NOT 100%, BUT FOR THE MOST PART, I FEEL LIKE THE MORE RESTRICTIONS WE PUT ON CELL PHONES, THE MORE ANXIETY IT CAUSES AROUND PARENTS, SPECIFICALLY IF THEY SUPPORT THEIR STUDENTS EMOTIONALLY AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE SURVEY DATA, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I AM GOING TO ASK IS IT TALKS ABOUT HOW SOMETIMES THE CELL PHONES ARE USED MEDICALLY. THERE WAS ONE PARENT WHO TALKED ABOUT HOW IT MONITORS THEIR CHILD'S GLUCOSE LEVEL TO MAKE SURE IF THEY ARE DIABETIC THEY ARE NOT REACHING A DANGEROUS ZONE. ANOTHER ANOTHER PARENT, HER CHILD HAS ASTHMA AND IT MONITORS THEIR ASTHMA AND SENDS AN ALERT IF THEY ARE BREATHING OR HEART RATE HAS GONE INTO A DANGEROUS HAS GONE INTO A DANGEROUS ZONE. SO I THINK THAT THE FEEDBACK I'VE GOTTEN SPECIFICALLY IS THE MORE RESTRICTIONS WE PUT ON, THE MORE CONCERNED PARENTS GET. I EVEN HAD ONE PARENT AT ONE OF MY SCHOOLS BECAME MORE RESTRICTIVE WITH THEIR CELL PHONE POLICY WERE GOING TO PULL THE CHILD OUT OF THE SCHOOL SPECIFICALLY AND PUT THEM IN A DIFFERENT OPTION BECAUSE THEY WANTED AT THE VERY LEAST FOR THEM TO HAVE ACCESS TO A SMART PHONE TO BE ABLE TO REACH THEM IN CASE OF EMERGENCY. I FEEL LIKE UNFORTUNATELY THIS POLICY KIND OF PUTS ME AT ODDS WITH WHAT I'M HEARING FROM PARENTS AND WHAT I'M HEARING FROM TEACHERS, SPECIFICALLY OUR TEACHERS IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, THE FEEDBACK THAT I GOT FROM OUR LAST WORKSHOP IS THAT TEACHERS IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS SPECIFICALLY DON'T SEE A NEED FOR CELL PHONES AND WERE COMFORTABLE WITH SOMETHING AS RESTRICTIVE AS THIS. BUT, AGAIN, IF WE LOOK AT THE DATA, AS WE GET TO MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL, IT SEEMS LIKE PEOPLE WANT A LITTLE LESS RESTRICTION ON THAT. I ALSO AGREE WITH MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS, THE COMMENTS I HEAR, THAT I'M REALLY SUPPORTIVE OF SCHOOLS HAVING MORE OF SCHOOLS HAVING MORE AUTONOMY TO CUSTOMIZE THEIR ELECTRONIC DEVICE POLICIES BASED ON THEIR INDIVIDUAL SCHOOL. I FEEL LIKE ONE THING I REALLY ENJOYED ABOUT HILLSBOROUGH AND THE WAY WE'VE BEEN VERY THOUGHTFUL IN OUR POLICY MAKING WHEN IT COMES TO EVEN OUR LIBRARY POLICIES OR ALL THE OTHER POLICIES IS ALLOWING A LOT OF THE CONCERNS AND DECISIONS TO BE MADE AT THE LOCAL LEVEL WHEN IT COMES TO OUR INDIVIDUAL SCHOOLS. NOW, THAT DOESN'T MEAN I'M AGAINST THIS POLICY IN GENERAL AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT WORK WAS DONE ON IT, BUT I DO HAVE SOME HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. FROM WHAT I CAN GATHER THIS POLICY IS MORE RESTRICTIVE FROM PASCO'S POLICY. I DID RESEARCH ON WHAT THE BOARD ENDED UP ACTUALLY PASSING. THEY ENDED UP PASSING WHERE MIDDLE SCHOOL WERE ALLOWED TO USE IT AT LUNCH AND HIGH SCHOOL WAS ALLOWED TO USE IT IN THE HALLS AND AT LUNCH. I KNOW THAT AT FIRST WE WERE KIND OF MODELING IT PASCO. NOW IT SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE SHIFTED BECAUSE THEIR POLICY IS LESS RESTRICTIVE AND MORE MODELING ON ORANGE COUNTY. BUT OTHER THAN TALKING TO ONE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER, AND I DO APPRECIATE THAT AND DO APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK, HAVE WE TALKED TO OTHER COUNTIES THAT HAVE IMPLEMENTED SIMILAR OR DIFFERENT POLICIES FROM THE ACTUAL SUPERINTENDENT, THE CHIEF OF SCHOOLS AND GOTTEN OF SCHOOLS AND GOTTEN FEEDBACK ON HOW IT'S WORKED AND THINGS THAT MADE IT THE MOST SUCCESSFUL. I CAN'T HEAR ANYBODY IF SOMEBODY IS ANSWERING IS ANSWERING THAT QUESTION. >>Jim Porter: I THINK THE QUESTION IS, HAS STAFF REACHED OUT TO OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT HAVE IMPLEMENTED SOMETHING LIKE THIS TO SEE WHAT THE EFFECTS HAVE BEEN? >>Van Ayres: MS. McRAE, DO YOU KNOW IF WE REACHED OUT TO ANY? >> I HAVE NOT PERSONALLY REACHED OUT, BUT I CAN GET TO SEE WHAT WORK HAS BEEN DONE. I DO KNOW THAT WE HAVE A GROUP OF PRINCIPALS THAT ARE MEETING AND WE ARE LOOKING AT OUR ENTIRE STUDENT CODE OF CONDUCT AND CELL PHONE POLICY IS PART OF OUR EXISTING CODE OF CONDUCT. WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS WE'RE GOING TO TAKE FEEDBACK FROM OUR BOARD MEMBERS TODAY. LISTEN TO THAT FEEDBACK. WE'RE ALSO TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE SURVEY THAT WAS DONE AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE A MEETING SET UP APRIL 1st, WHICH WOULD BE OUR SECOND COMMITTEE MEETING FOR OUR STUDENT CODE OF CONDUCT WHERE WE INVOLVE AND ENGAGE OUR PRINCIPALS AROUND SOME OF THESE POINTS SO WE CAN COME BACK WITH LANGUAGE THAT COMBINES SOME OF THE FEEDBACK FROM OUR PRINCIPALS AS WELL AS FEEDBACK FROM OUR BOARD TO HELP GET TO A FINALIZED POLICY. >>Jim Porter: I WILL NOTE, MR. AYRES AND MS. COMBS PLAYING OFF WHAT SHE SAID. WE'RE HAVING THREE POLICY CYCLES A YEAR. THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT POLICY. I THINK THE FEEDBACK TODAY WE'RE GETTING, WE'RE NOT ALL DONE GETTING THE FEEDBACK, IS HUGELY IMPORTANT. IT MIGHT NOT BE RIGHT TO TAKE TO THE PUBLIC HEARING BUT DOESN'T MEAN WE COULDN'T DO IT IN THE NEXT CYCLE. MS. DAVIS CAN GIVE YOU DATES ON THAT. I THINK THE FEEDBACK IS EXCELLENT AND WE APPRECIATE GETTING MORE OF THAT. >>Jessica Vaughn: >>Jessica Vaughn: OKAY. THANK YOU. I HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, SPECIFICALLY HOW THE SPECIFICALLY HOW THE POLICY OUTLINES ALL COMMUNICATION DEVICES NOT LIMITED TO PHONES, AND THAT DOES BRING UP QUESTIONS ABOUT SMART WATCHES BECAUSE THEY WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THIS. I KNOW LIKE PERSONALLY FOR MY SON WHO IS IN FIFTH GRADE, HE PUTS HIS SMART WATCH ON SCHOOL MODE. HE DOESN'T KEEP IT ON IT. HE PUTS IT IN HIS BACKPACK BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE REQUESTED. BUT FOR SMART WATCHES BUT FOR SMART WATCHES THAT HAVE THAT SETTING WHERE ONCE IT PUTS IT ON THAT SETTING ISN'T ALLOWED TO BE A COMMUNICATION DEVICE, BUT SIMPLY GIVES THEM THE TIME OR MIGHT OR MIGHT MONITOR SOMETHING, ARE WE DECIDING BETWEEN -- DO ALL SMART WATCHES HAVE TO BE PUT AWAY PERIOD REGARDLESS OF THE MODE SETTING THAT THEY ARE SET ON UNDER THIS POLICY? >>Van Ayres: I'LL JUMP IN. I WOULD RECOMMEND, IF YOU WRITE ANY POLICY AROUND SMART WATCHES, IT WOULD NEED TO FOLLOW THE SAME MAYBE PHILOSOPHY THAT WE USE FOR HEADPHONES AND EAR BUDS, MAYBE LUMPING THOSE TOGETHER JUST AS A THOUGHT. >>Patti Rendon: JESSICA, THIS IS PATTI. LINE 20 AND 21, IT DOES RECOGNIZE THAT WIRELESS COMMUNICATION DEVICES INCLUDE BUT NOT LIMITED TO CELL PHONES ERRAND AUXILIARY ANCILLARY DEVICES. AGAIN, WHEN I MADE REFERENCE, I HAVE NOT SPOKEN TO OTHER DISTRICT, BUT I MADE REFERENCE TO THE LAWS AND HOW THEY COULD RELATE TO THIS POLICY. IN REFERENCE TO WHAT IN REFERENCE TO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, IF WE MADE SOME OF THE CHANGES I RECOMMENDED, IT WOULD NOT BE LIMITED TO A PURSE OR BACKPACK. LIMITED TO THE AUTHORITY OF THE PRINCIPAL AND THE TEACHER. SO EACH INDIVIDUAL SO EACH INDIVIDUAL SCHOOL OR CLASSROOM COULD BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THE NEEDS OF DIFFERENT STUDENTS. ALSO, MS. GRAY MENTIONED IN THIS POLICY, SHE DID ADDRESS -- AND MS. COMBS -- MEDICAL ISSUES AND SOME OTHER THINGS. SO I THINK THEY HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB OF GIVING AND STATING THAT THIS IS NOT A STANDARD THAT WE'RE GOING TO ALSO IMPLEMENT WHEN IT COMES TO A STUDENT'S HEALTH AND SAFETY. THEY GIVE CAUSE TO THAT TO MAKE SURE IT'S RECOGNIZED THAT IT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT POLICY BASED ON MEDICAL OR OTHER NEEDS, IEPs, 504s. EMOTIONAL LEARNING. I THINK THIS POLICY DOES I THINK THIS POLICY DOES DO THAT AS LONG AS WE DON'T GET TOO SPECIFIC THAT WE TAKE THE AUTHORITY AWAY FROM TEACHERS AND PRINCIPALS. IF WE IF WE ALLOW THIS POLICY TO STAND AS IT IS AND WE DON'T DO IT PER GRADE LEVEL, THEN WE PUSH IT BACK TO THE DISTRICT AND WE PUSH IT BACK TO THE STUDENT CODE OF CONDUCT AND TO THE SUPERINTENDENT TOEM TO MAKE MORE PROCEDURES BASED UPON INDIVIDUAL SCHOOL GREAT LEVELS. WE AS A BOARD HAVE CREATED A POLICY BASED UPON THE LAW AND GIVING THEM THE AUTHORITY TO TAKE IT MORE SPECIFICALLY FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL SCHOOL AND GRADE LEVEL. I HOPE THAT ANSWERS A LITTLE BIT OF YOUR QUESTION, OF YOUR QUESTION, JESSICA. >>Jessica Vaughn: IT DOES. IT ACTUALLY BROUGHT ME BACK TO THE POINT I WAS TRYING TO MAKE ABOUT THE MEDICAL THING, THANK YOU. I DID SEE THAT. THE OTHER POINT I WAS GOING TO MAKE IN REGARDS TO THAT WERE SOME OF THE PARENTS IN THE DATA SURVEY HAD INDICATED JUST ANXIETY, RIGHT? OR FOR A STUDENT ON THE OR FOR A STUDENT ON THE SPECTRUM JUST HAVING THAT CELL PHONE DEVICE, KNOWING THAT COMMUNICATION OPTION IS THERE. I GUESS I GUESS MY QUESTION IS ON MENTAL HEALTH, SOMEONE JUST HEALTH, SOMEONE JUST USED THE CATEGORY MENTAL HEALTH. UNDER THOSE SITUATIONS WHERE THEY MIGHT NOT BE SOMETHING THAT SPECIFIC FROM A DOCTOR'S NOTE OR BUILT INTO AN BUILT INTO AN IEP, THOSE WOULD NOT BE COVERED OR WE WOULD NOT LOOK AT THOSE FOR THE MEDICAL EXEMPTIONS, IS THAT CORRECT? >>Jim Porter: WE NEED TO GET SOME CONTROL OVER THIS. WE'RE IN BOARD COMMENTS. MS. VAUGHN HAS THE FLOOR. I THINK THE SUPERINTENDENT WANTS TO RESPOND TO SOME OF THE QUESTIONS AND THEN GET BACK IN THE QUEUE. >>Patti Rendon: WE'RE HAVING A CONVERSATION. I THINK IT IS VERY HEALTHY. IT'S NOT A NEGATIVE BY ANY MEANS. >>Jim Porter: JUST NEED TO HAVE ORDER TO ORDER TO IT. >>Van Ayres: I APPRECIATE THIS POLICY. I JUST WANT TO GIVE QUICKLY THE LAY OF THE LAND CURRENTLY WHAT'S HAPPENING WITHIN OUR SCHOOLS. ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS FOR THE MOST PART, ALL THAT I'M AWARE OF, CELL PHONES ARE OFF BEFORE SCHOOL AND THEY ARE BASICALLY NOT SEEN AT ALL DURING THE DAY AND UTILIZED AFTER SCHOOL FOR TRANSPORTATION PURPOSES. ELEMENTARY, DURING LUNCH, DURING PASSING PERIODS, THE CELL PHONES ARE PUT AWAY. IN MIDDLE SCHOOLS, THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF VARIANCE. TYPICALLY AT MIDDLE, BEFORE AND AFTER THEY ARE UTILIZED. LUNCH PERIOD, SOME MIDDLE SCHOOLS HAVE STRICTER POLICIES AROUND NO CELL PHONES DURING LUNCH. SOME ALLOW THE CELL PHONES DURING LUNCH. WITH THE HIGH SCHOOLS IT'S PRETTY CONSISTENT FOR BEFORE AND AFTER SCHOOL THEY ARE ALLOWED DURING LUNCHTIME. ALLOWED DURING PASSING PERIODS. OUR CURRENT WAY OF WORK ALIGNS WITH SOME OF MEMBER RENDON'S COMMENTS, BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS AROUND REALLY ALLOWING SCHOOLS TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO PUT STRICTER POLICIES AND PROCEDURES IN PLACE. I AM ABSOLUTELY OPEN TO WHATEVER POLICIES CREATED, WE GO THROUGH AND CREATE PROCEDURES AROUND THAT FOR OUR SCHOOLS TO FOLLOW. I JUST WANTED TO GIVE THE LAY OF THE LAND RIGHT NOW BETWEEN ELEMENTARY, MIDDLE AND HIGH. IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE DIFFERENTIATED WITHIN THIS POLICY, BUT WE COULD POLICY, BUT WE COULD DO SO PROCEDURALLY TO KIND OF LAY THAT OUT. THE ONLY QUESTION WOULD BE AROUND MIDDLE SCHOOLS BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME MIDDLE SCHOOLS NOW THAT ALLOW IT DURING LUNCHTIME. THAT AGAIN IS LEAVING THE CONTROL BACK AT THE SITE WITH THE PRINCIPAL. >>Jim Porter: THE ORIGINAL ITERATION WE HAD DIFFERENTIATED BETWEEN THE THREE GRADE LEVELS. WE CAN LOOK AT THAT AND SEE IF IT MAKES SENSE TO PUT IT BACK IN. >>Jessica Vaughn: YEAH, FROM WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING FROM THIS POLICY SPECIFICALLY AND I TALKED TO MR. PORTER ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT BEFOREHAND TO MAKE SURE I WAS UNDERSTANDING IT CORRECTLY, THAT THIS DOES NOT ALLOW YOU, THE POLICY AS WRITTEN, IF WE PASS THIS AS A BOARD, DOES NOT ALLOW THE SUPERINTENDENT THAT DIFFERENTIAL BETWEEN HIGH SCHOOL TO ALLOW AND THE BATHROOMS. THAT'S KIND OF PART OF MY QUESTION IS WHATEVER RULE OR HOW YOU CHOOSE TO IMPLEMENT THIS, THIS IS SO STRONG, IT WOULD NOT ALLOW FOR THAT WITHOUT BREAKING OUR OWN POLICY FROM MY UNDERSTANDING. IF THAT'S SOMETHING AS A SUPERINTENDENT THAT YOU WANT TO LOOK AT OR RECOMMEND, I BELIEVE THE WORDING ON THIS HAS TO BE DIFFERENT BEFORE WE PASS IT BECAUSE THAT'S NOT MY UNDERSTANDING OF THIS POLICY. I JUST HAVE TWO MORE QUESTIONS AND I CAN GET BACK IN THE QUEUE. I'LL LEAVE THAT OUT THERE FOR YOU TO DIGEST IF YOU WANT TO RESPOND RESPOND TO THAT. I HEAR WHAT WE'RE SAYING, LIKE, IF WE PASSED THIS, IT KIND OF GOES UNDER THE STUDENT CODE OF CONDUCT AS FAR AS IMPLEMENTING IT, BUT I'M JUST WONDERING, LIKE, WHERE IT WILL ACTUALLY FALL IF THERE IS PUSH-BACK AGAINST THIS POLICY. LIKE ARE OUR TEACHERS THE ONES WHO ARE REALLY GOING TO BE THEN MORE IN CHARGE OF THIS? IS THIS GOING TO THEN, BECAUSE IT BECOMES A BOARD POLICY, BE MORE UP TO THE PRINCIPALS IF THE RULES ARE CONSISTENTLY BROKEN? IS THIS GOING TO GO TO CHIEF OF SCHOOLS? WHERE IS THE EMPHASIS IF WE MAKE A MORE RESTRICTIVE POLICY, WHERE DOES THAT IMPLEMENTATION REALLY FALL? AGAIN, ARE WE JUST THINKING THAT'S GOING TO FALL UP TO INDIVIDUAL SCHOOLS BASED ON HOW THEY IMPLEMENT THEY IMPLEMENT IT? I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHO THE PUSH OF REALLY, YOU KNOW, PUTTING OUT THIS POLICY AND MONITORING IT, WHERE THE HEAVY LIFT IS GOING TO GO. IS THAT GOING TO GO ON THE BACKS OF OUR TEACHERS? IF NO ONE IS PREPARED TO ANSWER THAT ONE YET, THE ADDITIONAL QUESTION I HAD ACTUALLY WAS FOR MEMBER GRAY. I KNOW YOU HAD IN YOUR OPENING COMMENTS TALKED ABOUT, I COULD HAVE HEARD WRONG BECAUSE I'M REMOTELY, 5,000 FIGHTS DIRECTLY RESULTING FROM CELL PHONE USAGE. WAS THAT DATA YOU WAS THAT DATA YOU GOT SPECIFICALLY TO HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY? WAS THAT A FLORIDA DATA POINT THAT YOU PULLED? HOW DID WE VERIFY HOW DID WE VERIFY THAT? WAS THAT IN A REFERRAL FROM THE FIGHT? WHERE DID WE GET THAT DATA? TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THAT DATA POINT CAME FROM? >>Lynn Gray: THAT CAME FROM JOSHUA KRISTOL'S OFFICE AND THE FIGHTING FROM ELECTRONIC MISUSE, THERE IS A CATEGORY THAT LABELS THE DIRECT CORRELATION OF CELL PHONE USAGE TO FIGHTING INCIDENTS CAME FROM THAT OFFICE. AND THE SECOND YEAR, AND THE SECOND YEAR, THE 2023 TO 2024, UP 2024, UP TO MARCH 14, ALSO, THOSE ARE ACTUAL STATISTICS AND I WILL BE HAPPY TO SHARE THE CHART WHICH JOSHUA ALSO HAS SHARED SHARED WITH ME. >>Jessica Vaughn: SPECIFIC TO HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY BASED ON THE -- >>Lynn Gray: -- >>Lynn Gray: -- IN CHARGE OF THE -- >>Jessica Vaughn: DID I GET THAT NUMBER RIGHT? 5,000? DID I HEAR THAT CORRECTLY? >>Lynn Gray: THE AMOUNT IN 2022 TO 2023, THE GRAND TOTAL -- AND KEEP THIS IN MIND TOO STARTS AT KINDERGARTEN. BELIEVE IT OR NOT, TWO BELIEVE IT OR NOT, TWO FIGHTS, 5,639 FOR THE SCHOOL YEAR OF LAST YEAR. AND THIS SCHOOL YEAR, STILL TRENDING BECAUSE THIS STOPS AT MARCH 14, WE ARE AT -- AND WE ACTUALLY HAD A FIGHT -- WELL, PRESCHOOL. 5,252. IT REALLY STARTS DWELLING, THE STATISTICS OF FIGHTING AND ELECTRONIC USAGE STARTS SWELLING IN GRADE THREE. THERE'S 86. THE LAST SCHOOL YEAR, IN GRADE 3, THERE WAS 147. MIND YOU, THE YEAR IS NOT DONE YET. I WOULD EXPECT I WOULD EXPECT MORE OF I WOULD EXPECT MORE OF A RISE FROM THIS. THE OTHER STATISTICS I SHARED CAME FROM CLAIRE REYNOLDS FROM THE CRISIS CENTER THE CRISIS CENTER HERE IN TAMPA BAY. THE ONLY STATISTICS THAT I DID SHARE THAT WERE NOT DIRECTLY RELATED TO HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY WAS THE BILL, THE FLORIDA STATUTE 1,006.07 AND THE HOUSE BILL, AS YOU KNOW, 3. BUT ALL THE OTHER STATISTICS CAME FROM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY OR ADDRESSED ADDRESSED TO HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY. >>Jessica Vaughn: I APPRECIATE THAT CLARITY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. MY ONE LAST COMMENT WAS, AND I MIGHT HAVE MISSED IT. I THOUGHT I READ IT PRETTY CLEARLY, BUT THERE'S NOTHING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT FILMING FIGHTS IN GENERAL BECAUSE I KNOW THERE IS A LOT OF ANXIETY ABOUT THAT. THERE OUGHT TO BE A LAW, STUDENTS HAD BROUGHT FORWARD A POLICY SPECIFICALLY AROUND THE FILMING OF FIGHTS AND CONCERN THAT WAS GLORIFYING THE FIGHTS OR ADDING OR CONTRIBUTING. THERE'S NOTHING SPECIFICALLY IN THIS POLICY THAT ADDRESSES THAT PIECE. I SAW A LOT AROUND PORNOGRAPHY AND SEXTING AND CONCERNS ABOUT VICTIMIZING OUR STUDENTS, BUT DID I MISS SOMETHING AROUND FIGHTS SPECIFICALLY? >>Jim Porter: THERE'S NOTHING SPECIFIC ABOUT FIGHTS, BUT WE CAN LOOK AT THAT. >>Jessica Vaughn: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IF I HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, I'LL GET BACK IN THE QUEUE. I APPRECIATE IT. >>Karen Perez: BEFORE I START ON MY COMMENTS, I JUST NEED SOME CLARITY ON SOMETHING CLARITY ON SOMETHING THAT MEMBER GRAY SAID WITH THE D AND F SCHOOLS. YOU MENTIONED THAT BY YOU MENTIONED THAT BY PASSING THIS POLICY THAT THERE IS A POTENTIAL OF OUR D AND F SCHOOLS RAISING THEIR GRADES? >> [INAUDIBLE] >>Lynn Gray: WHOOPS. SORRY. THAT'S NOT BASED -- THAT'S NOT BASED -- THAT'S A POINT OF VIEW THAT I WOULD SAY AS A TEACHER OF FOUR DECADES THAT WHEN A CHILD IS LISTENING AND LOOKING AT A CELL PHONE VERSUS THEIR VERSUS THEIR TEXTBOOK OR TRANSPARENCY OVERHEAD, THE CHANCES OF THEM CHANCES OF THEM ABSORBING THE INFORMATION TO INFORMATION TO ABSORB CORRECTLY THE INFORMATION, SAY A MATH PROBLEM, IS VERY MUCH PROBLEM, IS VERY MUCH MITIGATED BY CELL PHONE DOMINANCE. SO THEREFORE I WOULD SAY, MY OWN POINT OF VIEW, THIS IS POINT OF VIEW, THIS IS BASED ON MY OWN MY OWN EXPERIENCE, AND THIS IS ANECDOTAL, I WOULD SAY MY STUDENTS WHO DIDN'T HAVE THE USE OF CELL PHONES, EXCEPT FOR MAYBE A LESSON, WHO ARE LOOKING AT FIGHTS OR WHO ARE LOOKING AT BODY PARTS, WOULD DO LESS ACADEMICALLY THAN IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE THAT. SO, YES, THAT'S MY PREMISE AS WELL. >>Karen Perez: MAJORITY OF D AND F SCHOOLS ARE IN LOW SOCIOECONOMIC AREAS WHERE THE MAJORITY OF OUR STUDENTS DO MAJORITY OF OUR STUDENTS DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THE CELL PHONES OR EVEN -- BUT I'M GOING TO LEAVE THAT LEAVE THAT THERE. OKAY? I'M GOING TO SAY THIS. THERE IS NOTHING HERE THAT ADDRESSES EMERGENCY ISSUES. UNFORTUNATELY, I WAS UNFORTUNATELY, I WAS PART OF A PANEL AND HAD THE UNFORTUNATE PLEASURE OF SITTING DOWN AND SPEAKING WITH SPEAKING WITH UVALDE FOLKS. THE MENTAL HEALTH MAIN CONTACT FOR THE ENTIRE DISTRICT THERE IN UVALDE. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE 11 SCHOOL SHOOTINGS A YEAR. THAT IS FROM ELEMENTARY TO HIGH SCHOOL, AS WE ALL KNOW. PARDON ME? PARDON ME?  I DIDN'T SAY IN HILLSBOROUGH. YEAH, NOT IN HILLSBOROUGH. BUT PART OF A PARENT'S ANXIETY NOWADAYS IS SENDING THEIR NOWADAYS IS SENDING THEIR CHILD TO SCHOOL AND NOT BEING ABLE TO COMMUNICATE WITH THEM. ONCE THOSE CHILDREN ARE OUT OF THEIR PARENTS' VIEW, THEY WANT TO KNOW TO KNOW THAT THEY TO KNOW THAT THEY CAN COMMUNICATE WITH THEIR CHILDREN. AS I HAVE SPOKEN WITH AS I HAVE SPOKEN WITH PARENTS AS A MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONAL, THAT'S WHAT THEY HAVE THAT'S WHAT THEY HAVE ESPOUSED TO ME. THERE HAS BEEN 394 SCHOOL SHOOTINGS SINCE SHOOTINGS SINCE COLUMBINE AND IT HAS HAS AFFECTED 360,000 STUDENTS. I SAW I SAW NOTHING HERE I SAW NOTHING HERE THAT ADDRESSES EMERGENCIES AT ALL. I HAVE SEEN WHERE THE STUDENTS LEAVE IT IN THEIR BACK PACKS OR AWAY FROM THEIR PERSON, BUT NOTHING TO ADDRESS AN EMERGENCY SITUATION WHATSOEVER. LET'S BE TRANSPARENT. EMERGENCIES HAPPEN. AND OUR PARENTS WANT TO KNOW THAT THEY COULD COMMUNICATE THAT THEY COULD COMMUNICATE WITH THEIR THEIR CHILDREN WHEN EMERGENCIES HAPPEN. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT ON THE PANEL WITH UVALDE WAS THE FACT THAT CHILDREN WERE ABLE TO, ABLE TO, UNFORTUNATELY, SPEAK WITH THEIR PARENTS BEFORE THEY PASSED. WHAT ARE WE PUTTING WHAT ARE WE PUTTING IN PLACE HERE FOR EMERGENCIES? BUT ALSO, ONE OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS MENTIONED ABOUT MEMBERS MENTIONED ABOUT ISSUES WITH WITH MEDICAL. BOTH CELL PHONES BOTH CELL PHONES AND SMART WATCHES MONITOR ISSUES WITH HEART. I KNOW I HAVE AFIB AND MY SMART WATCH MONITORS ME CONSTANTLY. AND IT WILL LET ME KNOW IF I NEED TO CALL, AND IT ALSO ALERTS MY DOCTOR. I'M JUST CURIOUS, IF THE CHILD HAS TO TAKE OFF THEIR SMART WATCH, IF THE CHILD WATCH, IF THE CHILD HAS WATCH, IF THE CHILD HAS NO ACCESS TO THEIR PHONE, ACCESS TO THEIR PHONE, THESE TWO THINGS IN EMERGENCY SITUATIONS, WHAT HAVE WE DONE TO ADDRESS THIS IN THIS POLICY? >>Jim Porter: THOSE ARE GOOD QUESTIONS. LET ME HIT THE MEDICAL ONE FIRST. WE DO ADDRESS MEDICAL CONDITIONS AND MS. VAUGHN POINTED OUT WE MIGHT NEED TO REVISIT THAT. LINES 22 THROUGH 24, IF THERE IS A MEDICAL CONDITION AND THE DEVICE IS BEING USED FOR THAT, BUT I THINK TO YOUR POINT, TO MS. VAUGHN'S POINT THAT NEEDS TO BE TIGHTENED UP A LITTLE BIT, BUT IT'S THERE. WE HAVE NOT ADDRESSED EMERGENCY SITUATIONS. WE ABSOLUTELY CAN. IT'S IMPLIED THAT IF THE CELL PHONE IS ON THEIR PERSON BUT POWERED DOWN IN EMERGENCY SITUATION, THEY COULD ACCESS AND POWER IT UP. I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT AND WE'RE HAPPY TO TAKE A LOOK AND COME UP WITH LANGUAGE THAT WOULD SPECIFICALLY ADDRESS IT AND NOT JUST HAVE IT IMPLIED. I THINK THOSE ARE VERY GOOD POINTS. >>Karen Perez: THANK YOU. >>Jim Porter: I TALKED TO DR. HAHN THIS MORNING AND SHE HAD NO ISSUE WITH ANY OF THE POLICIES. THE QUEUE IS NOW MS. GRAY, THEN MS. RENDON AND MS. COMBS. >>Lynn Gray: I THINK WE ALL CERTAINLY ENJOYED THE DISCUSSION AND THE INPUT. MEMBER MEMBER PEREZ, THE EMERGENCY, I KNOW, AND THIS IS MORE OF A GLORIFIED GLOBAL STATEMENT HERE. I KNOW THAT WE HAD A TOWN HALL AT NEWSOME HIGH SCHOOL ABOUT EMERGENCY, WHAT ARE WE DOING FOR SAFETY. I KNOW WE INVEST MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. WHAT HAPPENS -- IF WE HAVE A SCHOOL SCHOOL SHOOTING, RIGHT? HOW DO I MAKE SURE MY CHILD IS SAFE? WHAT WE CAN'T SAFE AND COULD NOT SAY AND CHIEF NEWMAN, YOU COULD REMARK, A LOT OF THOSE SAFETY TECHNIQUES -- AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF I'M ALLOWED TO TELL YOU SOME OF THIS BECAUSE WE'RE IN PUBLIC -- BUT THERE ARE MEASURES WITHIN THE SCHOOL BUILDING THAT MAKE THIS CAMPUS, A CAMPUS, EVERY CAMPUS ONE OF THE SAFEST THAT WE CAN POSSIBLY MAKE. I'M STARING AT CHIEF NEWMAN BECAUSE THERE IS A BUTTON YOU CAN PRESS ON THE CAN PRESS ON THE CENTEGIX FOR EMERGENCIES. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER WE'RE DOING A GREAT JOB, SUPERINTENDENT VAN AYRES TO SHARE WITH THE PARENTS WHAT WE DO HAVE IN TERMS OF MAKING THESE SCHOOLS SAFE. BECAUSE WE CAN SAY IT FROM THE BOARD AND I CAN SAY A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SCHOOL CAMERAS AND RESOURCE OFFICERS, BUT PARENTS STILL WONDER, SO THAT IS A NAGGING CONCERN, MEMBER PEREZ, AND THANK YOU FOR MENTIONING THAT. WHEN WE TALK WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, MEMBER VAUGHN, THE MEDICAL, THAT IS THE FIRST THING WE ALWAYS LOOK AT BECAUSE IF YOU REMEMBER, WHEN I DISCUSS THE MEDICAL CONDITIONS OF OUR CHILDREN THIRD OF OUR CHILDREN THIRD GRADE, 50% OF THEM HAVE A CHRONIC DISEASE SUCH AS DIABETES, SUCH AS DIABETES, OBESITY, ASTHMA. SO THE QUESTION, IT BEGS SO THE QUESTION, IT BEGS THE QUESTION, WHAT HAPPENS IF WE HAVE A MEDICAL EMERGENCY? AND THAT'S WHERE MR. PORTER, WE PUT IN LINE 22, 23, 24, STUDENTS MAY NOT RECEIVE DISCIPLINE IF THEY USE THEIR CELL PHONE AND/OR AUXILIARY DEVICE TO MONITOR A HEALTH CONDITION THAT IS DOCUMENTED THROUGH THE MEDICAL RECORDS AS IT SHOULD BE. EVERY NURSE, SCHOOL NURSE IS VERY -- IT'S REQUIRED BY FLORIDA STATUTE TO HAVE A BACKGROUND OF VACCINATIONS, OF THEIR HEALTH CONDITIONS AND CERTAINLY THAT DOCUMENTATION WOULD BE DOCUMENTATION WOULD BE COVERED WITHIN A POLICY. THE IDEA THAT THE IDEA THAT ARE WE TOO STRICT? TOO ORANGE TOO ORANGE COUNTY? I WOULD SUGGESTING AND I WOULD SAY THAT WAS ONE HECK OF A COURAGEOUS MOVE. MAYBE OTHER MAYBE OTHER DESCRIPTORS WOULD BE MORE OR LESS FLATTERING. BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE STATISTICS THAT I SHARED AND THESE ARE NOT MADE UP. THESE ARE FROM NATIONAL CENTERS, FROM OUR OWN FROM OUR OWN SCHOOL STAFF, IT BEGS EACH OF US THE QUESTION, WHAT SHOULD BE DONE? SHOULD WE JUST KEEP IT SHOULD WE JUST KEEP IT AS IT IS? SUPERINTENDENT VAN AYRES, YOU MENTIONED, WELL, MIDDLE SCHOOL IS DIFFERENT THAN HIGH SCHOOL. WELL, I ALSO COUNT IT WITH SAYING THAT THE AGE NOW BEGINS, MUCH OF IT, EVEN GAVE STATISTICS, FIRST, SECOND, THIRD GRADE, WE HAVE DISNEY PORN GOING ON IN MANY ON IN MANY OF OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS. DISNEY PORN. YOU GO ON THE SITE, WELL, IT LOOKS VERY FRIENDLY. IT IS A DISNEY CHARACTER, BUT THOSE ARE THOSE ARE NEFARIOUS SITES THAT WILL START GETTING THE STUDENT GROOMED AND THEN THEY BECOME MORE MORE DESENSITIZED TO MORE SEXUAL OVATIONS. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO TELL YOU THIS, BUT THIS IS, IN MY MIND, THE WORLD THAT WE SEE WITH OUR TEENAGERS, ONE OF THE HIGHEST SUICIDE RATES, THE HIGHEST AMOUNT OF FIGHTING, THE AMOUNT OF FIGHTING, THE HIGHEST AMOUNT OF BULLYING. WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING IN TERMS OF HELPING OUR CHILDREN BECAUSE IF IT'S FROM THE CELL PHONES, WHICH THE FLORIDA STATUTE, THE HOUSE BILL 3, TIKTOK, ALL OF THIS IS OUT THERE. IF THEY ARE SAYING YES AND THEY ARE STARTING TO MAKE LAWS, I SAY THIS TO US, WHY DON'T WE BE PROACTIVE AND MAKE PROACTIVE AND MAKE OUR DISTRICT MORE, LET'S SAY, AWARE THAT WE NEED TO NEED TO PROTECT OUR NEED TO PROTECT OUR CHILDREN. AND THAT'S WHERE THIS IS COMING FROM. ALL THESE REMARKS ARE VERY GOOD. THEY ARE VERY VALID. BUT I WILL SAY I DON'T WANT BUT I WILL SAY I DON'T WANT TO GO AS FAR AS SAYING ELEMENTARY SCHOOL DO THIS, MIDDLE SCHOOL AND HIGH SCHOOL. I WILL SAY HIGH SCHOOL IS A DIFFERENT, BUT THEN AGAIN THE SUICIDE RATE IS VERY, VERY HIGH IN HIGH SCHOOL. SO WE GOT TO BE CAREFUL WITH THAT. AND THE AVERAGE AGE NOW HAS DROPPED FROM 13 TO 10 YEARS OLD. SO SEPARATING GRADE LEVELS, I'M LISTENING, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS -- I THAT IS -- I MEAN, WHAT STUDENT SHOULD HAVE A CELL PHONE THAT IS IN KINDERGARTEN OR SECOND GRADE, THIRD GRADE, FOURTH GRADE? WHAT ARE THEY DOING? THE OTHER THING, TOO, THAT I WANTED TO SAY, EAR BUDS, AND THAT IS A GOOD POINT, BECAUSE EAR BUDS ARE INCLUDED AND THAT SHOULD BE -- THAT'S ONLINE -- WHAT LINE WAS THAT ON, JIM? >>Jim Porter: WE INCLUDE EAR BUDS. DEFINED ON LINE 46 AND -- >>Lynn Gray: SO THAT'S INCLUDED. BUT THE STUDENT CODE OF CONDUCT IN YOUR IN YOUR ARTICULATION, SHAY McRAE, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT YOU'RE TALKING TO THE PRINCIPALS WHY THIS IS COMING FORTH, BECAUSE THE FORTH, BECAUSE THE PRINCIPALS SAY, LYNN, FINALLY WE HAVE RELIEF BECAUSE WE'RE ALWAYS FIGHTING AGAINST THE PARENTS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A POLICY AND THEY WANT SOMETHING TO PROTECT, A BARRIER TO PROTECT THEM FROM PARENT SAYING I HAVE TO HAVE THAT SMART WATCH, AND THE STUDENT MIGHT BE IN THIRD OR FOURTH GRADE. THE POLICY HAS TO PROTECT THE PRINCIPALS. NOW, TEACHERS. HOW MUCH MORE CAN WE ASK OF TEACHERS? LET'S GO AHEAD AND GIVE THEM SOME MORE RULES. IF YOU TEACH A CLASS AND I'VE TAUGHT JUST ABOUT EVERY GRADE EXCEPT FOR EXCEPT FOR SIXTH GRADE. I DON'T KNOW HOW A TEACHER CAN DO ANYTHING MORE DO ANYTHING MORE IN HAD THEIR DAY, TEACHER LESSON, AND THEN BE WITH A CELL PHONE WATCH. IT'S ENORMOUS WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO ALREADY. I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS OR LOOKS LIKE, BUT I DO SAY, AND WE ADDED THIS TO IT, ADDED THIS TO IT, THE ADDED THIS TO IT, THE PRINCIPALS SHOULD HAVE THAT SHOULD HAVE THAT RIGHT, THAT DISCRETION AS TO HOW THEY WANT TO ENFORCE OR MANAGE MORE RESTRICTIVE CELL PHONE USAGE. BUT GIVING IT BUT GIVING IT TO THE TEACHERS I THINK IS A VERY DANGEROUS WAY OF SAYING TO TEACHERS NOW, HERE ARE MORE REFERRAL SLIPS. MAKE SURE, BECAUSE THAT AGAIN, THAT RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN STUDENT AND TEACHER IS VERY PRECIOUS. ANYTIME YOU WRITE A REFERRAL, YOU LOSE A YOU LOSE A LOT OF THE TRUST AND IT'S HARD FOR US TO IMAGINE WHAT TRUST DOES FOR A STUDENT WANTING TO LEARN, BUT IF YOU DON'T TO LEARN, BUT IF YOU DON'T HAVE A TRUSTFUL RELATIONSHIP OF THE STUDENTS IN CLASS AND TWO OR THREE OF THEM ARE GOING TO ACT OUT AND BEFORE YOU KNOW IT, YOU DON'T HAVE A CLASS THAT YOU OWN. THEY OWN YOU. I AGREE WITH THE SENTIMENTS. DEFINITELY DO. BUT I ALSO THINK IT SHOULD BE SUBJUGATED TO THE PRINCIPALS AND NOT TO THE TEACHERS. ALL IN ALL, I THINK ALL IN ALL, I THINK EVERY ONE OF THE COMMENTS ARE VERY WELL SAID AND FIT COMPLETELY INTO THE CONTOURS. AND SUPERINTENDENT VAN AYRES, YOU HAVE PROCEDURES. >>Van Ayres: YEP. >>Lynn Gray: YOU WILL MAKE IT TO WHERE EVERY ONE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS ASKED WILL MAKE IT WORK. SO THANK YOU. >>Jim Porter: >>Jim Porter: MS. RENDON. >>Patti Rendon: YEAH, THANK YOU FOR ALL THE COMMENTS. MS. GRAY, IN YOUR ORIGINAL THING BEFORE I ASKED TO ADD IN THE ADMIN, YOU HAVE ALL THE RESPONSIBILITY ON THE TEACHERS IN YOUR PROPOSAL. SO BY ME ADDING ADMIN STAFF IT WOULD GIVE MORE SUPPORT TO THE TEACHERS AND NOT TAKE AWAY FROM THAT. ALSO, WHEN YOU LIMIT IT, THE BACK PACKS AND THE PURSES, IT GAVE MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR REFERRALS THAN FOR A TEACHER TO CREATE WHATEVER WAS BEST FOR HER CLASSROOM. I THINK THAT'S WHERE MY CHANGES GAVE THE AUTHORITY TO START IT UP WITHOUT HAVING TO HAVE MORE REFERRALS. I ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE RECOGNIZE THE FACT -- AND I WANT TO REITERATE IT ONCE AGAIN, OUR I.T. DEPARTMENT HAS DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB IN MAKING SURE WHEN YOU ARE IN OUR SCHOOLS, YOU ARE NOT ABLE TO ACCESS THESE SITES BECAUSE OUR WIFI WILL LIMIT IT. YOU DO NOT HAVE THAT ABILITY. MS. GRAY, THESE HAVE TO BE SOME THINGS THAT WE AS A DISTRICT DO NOT TAKE ON THE RESPONSIBILITY OF A OF A PARENT. PARENTS HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO IDENTIFY THE DEVICES THEY CHOOSE TO GIVE THEIR CHILDREN. WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO WITHIN ON OUR PROPERTY TO MANAGE THEM. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, CREATING A ABOUT, CREATING A POLICY TO MANAGE DEVICES ON OUR PROPERTY. WE ARE DOING THAT FOR THE SAFETY OF OUR CHILDREN THROUGH OUR I.T. DEPARTMENT, THROUGH GAGGLE, THROUGH OUR SECURITY DEPARTMENT. SO I DON'T SO I DON'T WANT TO GIVE PARENTS IN THIS WORKSHOP THE THOUGHT THAT WE'RE HANDING OUT PORN TO CHILDREN. WE ARE NOT DOING THAT. WE ARE NOT ALLOWING THEM TO ACCESS THESE SITES ON PROPERTY. IF THEY ARE DOING THAT, THEY ARE DOING IT AT THEIR HOME. THEY ARE DOING IT OFF OF OUR CAMPUSES. THEY ARE NOT ACCESSING OUR WIFIS. IT IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT IT IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT TO MAKE THAT DISTINCTION THAT WE AS A DISTRICT HAVE DONE THAT. THE OTHER THING I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS, THE DATA THAT WE'RE USING THROUGH THIS SURVEY WENT OUT IN THE FALL. IT WENT OUT IN SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER AFTER I HELD A PARENT FORUM AND WE EXTENDED IT OUT TO THE ENTIRE DISTRICT FOR COMMENT. WHEN MR. AYRES, SUPERINTENDENT AYRES REFERS TO THE FACT THAT OUR CHANGES HAVE OCCURRED WITHIN OUR SCHOOLS, THAT WAS NEW THIS YEAR FOR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS NOT TO HAVE CELL PHONES OUT DURING THE YEAR. THIS WAS NEW THIS YEAR THAT MOST OF OUR MIDDLE SCHOOLS ARE LIMITING OUR LIMITING OUR CELL PHONE USE IN ONLY LUNCHTIME AND BEFORE AND AFTER SCHOOL AND THEN OUR HIGH SCHOOLS. AGAIN, THAT'S NOT CONSISTENT, BUT IT'S DIFFERENT. SO I THINK IF WE WERE TO ASK A PARENT TODAY OR MAYBE NEXT SEPTEMBER HOW THEY FELT, THEY MAY NOT EVEN KNOW THAT STUDENTS AREN'T EVEN HAVING THEM IN FRONT OF THEM DURING THEIR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL TIME. I THINK WE NEED TO KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WE MOVE FORWARD. I ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GIVE THE AUTHORITY AFTER THE POLICY THAT OUR POLICY FOLLOWS THE LAW AND THAT THE DETAILS BEYOND THIS ARE WHAT THE DISTRICT, THE SUPERINTENDENT, OUR DISTRICT OFFICIALS, OUR PRINCIPALS AND OUR TEACHERS HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO USE BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT WE AS A BOARD HAVE THE THE OBLIGATION TO GOVERN, NOT DICTATE. I THINK THAT'S VERY CRITICALLY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND. I THINK, MS. GRAY, THE WAY IN WHICH YOU WORDED 90% OF THIS IS EXCELLENT. I THINK IT DOES ADDRESS WHEN THERE ARE MEDICAL CONCERNS. AGAIN, YOU PUT IT BACK ON THE TEACHER AND THE PRINCIPAL, THAT HUGELY ALLOWS THEM TO HAVE FLEXIBILITY. BECAUSE LIKE MS. PEREZ SAYS, ANXIETY IS ANXIETY IS A TRUE MENTAL HEALTH CONDITION, AND IT MAY NEED TO BE ADDRESSED THROUGH A 504 PLAN, AND THAT MAY BE THAT THE CELL PHONE SITS ON THEIR LAP OR ON THEIR DESK OR WHATEVER IT LOOKS LIKE. THIS GIVES FLEXIBILITY TO A TEACHER, TO A PRINCIPAL, TO STAFF TO BE ABLE TO DO STAFF TO BE ABLE TO DO WHAT IS BEST FOR A STUDENT AND AN EMERGENCY NEED. I THINK WE TAKE THIS, MAKE CHANGES AND ALLOW THE DISTRICT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH MORE SPECIFICS PER THEIR SCHOOLS. >>Jim Porter: THANK YOU. MS. COMBS. >>Nadia Combs: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD LOVE TO ASK IS THE SUPERINTENDENT AND SUPERINTENDENT AND HIS STAFF ON HOW THEY FEEL AND WHAT THEY THINK ABOUT THIS. A COUPLE OF THINGS, I A COUPLE OF THINGS, I PERSONALLY THINK THAT WE DO HAVE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF DIFFERENTIATION WITH THE ELEMENTARY, MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL. IT JUST GIVES MORE CLARITY BECAUSE I THINK IT CAN BE VERY VAGUE THEN. I THINK WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CONSISTENCY THAT WE WANT CONSISTENCY, WE WANT THE PRINCIPALS TO BE IN CHARGE, BUT WE'D LIKE TO HAVE KINSEY ALONG THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS. LIKE IF SOMEONE LIKE IF SOMEONE IS AT WEBB MIDDLE SCHOOL AND THEY GO TO DAVIDSEN MIDDLE SCHOOL, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT THERE IS CONSISTENCY THAT THEY ARE NOT USING PHONES DURING LUNCHROOM. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE LAW THAT WAS JUST PASSED, REALLY, STUDENTS SHOULDN'T HAVE THEIR CELL PHONES IN MIDDLE SCHOOL. IF YOU THINK ABOUT THAT, WE'RE REALLY POSSIBLY GOING TO BREAK THE LAW IF A CHILD IS ON SOCIAL MEDIA IN MIDDLE SCHOOL AT LUNCH AND USING THEIR PHONE, THEN WE'RE BREAKING THE LAW IN SCHOOL. I PERSONALLY THINK WE SHOULD REALLY BE MUCH MORE STRICT IN ELEMENTARY AND MIDDLE SCHOOL AND DIFFERENTIATE. I WOULD LIKE TO DO THE HIGH SCHOOL, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO WAIT A LITTLE BIT AND SEE, HAVE SOME OF THESE RESTRICTIONS THAT WOULD BE GUIDED AND LET'S SEE HOW THAT GOES SO THAT WAY WE REALLY FULLY HAVE THAT. THAT WAY WE ARE MOVING TOWARD SUCCESS INSTEAD OF REACTING AND DOING SOMETHING. THAT'S MY FIRST THING. THE SECOND PART IS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT MENTAL ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH, I APPRECIATE THAT ALL THE HEALTH IS INCLUDED IN HERE, MAKING SURE IF YOU HAVE AN IEP IF YOU HAVE AN IEP OR 504, CAN YOU HAVE A PHONE BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, PHONES REALLY INCREASE THE USE, INCREASE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES, INCREASE ANXIETY. OVER AND OVER, 99% OF STUDENTS HAVE AN INCREASE IN ANXIETY WHEN THEY USE THE PHONE. IT DOESN'T DECREASE ANXIETY. THERE ARE SOME STUDENTS WHO HAVE TO HAVE PHONES BECAUSE IT IS LIKE A SAFETY OR THINGS LIKE THAT. THAT'S WHAT 504s AND IEPs ARE FOR. GENERALLY FOR STUDENTS, PHONES DO INCREASE ANXIETY. AND THEN THE OTHER THING I WAS GOING TO SAY -- I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT ABOUT THIS, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT PHONES AND EMERGENCIES, THEY SHOULD BE IN A BACKPACK OR WHEREVER IT IS, I'VE WHEREVER IT IS, I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT WHEN THERE IS AN ACCIDENT OR A SCHOOL SHOOTER, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO IS GO IN A CORNER, HARD CORNER AND ARE QUIET AND WE'RE REALLY QUIET AND PHONES SHOULD BE AND PHONES SHOULD BE POWERED DOWN. THINK ABOUT THAT. IF THE PHONES ARE ON AND PARENTS ARE CALLING CONSTANTLY, WHAT DOES THAT -- THAT ALLOWS SOMEONE TO KNOW WHERE KIDS ARE PLACED IN THE SCHOOL, WHERE KIDS ARE PLACED AS FAR AS HIDING TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE PROTECTED. I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT ABOUT THAT, WHEN A SCHOOL SHOOTER COMES ON AND PARENTS KNOW AND PHONES ARE BEING CALLED AND SOMEONE IS HIDING IN THE CLOSET, WHAT HAPPENS WITH THINGS LIKE THAT? WHEN WE TALK ABOUT EMERGENCIES, I THINK I THINK A CHILD NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO GRAB THE PHONE AND USE IT, BUT HAVING BUT HAVING A PHONE ON, WHAT IS THAT GOING TO DO AS FAR AS SCHOOL SAFETY? WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT FROM BOTH SIDES. FINALLY, AS MORE AND MORE TIME GOES BY, YOU'LL SEE MORE AND MORE YOUNG STUDENTS WITH THE iPhone WATCHES IN KINDERGARTEN AND FIRST GRADE. THE THE AMOUNT OF CHEATING THAT IS HAPPENING WITH STUDENTS, LIKE ACADEMIC CHEATING, IS UNBELIEVABLE THAT'S HAPPENING. SO WITH MORE AND SO WITH MORE AND MORE, I WENT TO A SCHOOL THE OTHER DAY AND SAW A KINDERGARTNER WITH AN iPhone WATCH. I THOUGHT TO MYSELF, IT'S JUST GOING TO BECOME MORE AND MORE PREVALENT AS PRICES COME DOWN AND IT BECOMES MORE AVAILABLE. WE NEED TO BE AHEAD OF THIS INSTEAD OF BEHIND THIS. EVERY YEAR, YOU'RE SEEING MORE AND MORE STUDENTS USE PHONES, iPhones, iPADS. IT'S JUST BECOME A WAY OF IT'S JUST BECOME A WAY OF LIFE. >>Jim Porter: THANK YOU. MS. VAUGHN. >>Jessica Vaughn: THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE, AGAIN, ALL MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS' COMMENTS. I THINK THIS IS GOOD. MEMBER GRAY, MEMBER GRAY, LIKE, I APPRECIATE THE URGENCY THAT YOU SEE FROM THE DATA AND WHAT YOU'RE LEARNING TO PROTECT OUR KIDS. AND THAT COMES THROUGH IN THIS POLICY, AND I UNDERSTAND YOUR MOTIVATION BEHIND IT. BUT I DO STILL BUT I DO STILL HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. AGAIN, IT'S KIND OF GOING BACK AND FORTH TO AND FORTH TO THE MEDICAL MENTAL HEALTH PIECE AND, YOU KNOW, DOES THAT MEAN IF THERE ARE INSTANCES WHERE STUDENTS RELY ON COMMUNICATION WITH THEIR PARENTS AT SOME POINT FOR THEIR MENTAL HEALTH OR TO KEEP THEM ON TRACK ON SOMETHING, IS THAT THEN THIS WILL BE ANOTHER PIECE THAT PARENTS HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ADVOCATE FOR THE IEP AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. I STILL HAVE QUESTIONS LIKE I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE SAYING MAYBE IN MAYBE IN SITUATIONS, DEPENDING HOW IT'S USED FOR MORE TYPICAL KIDS, CELL PHONES CAN CAUSE ANXIETY. AGAIN, ALL OF OUR STUDENTS ARE DIFFERENT. JUST AS WE DIFFERENTIATE LESSONS AND ACADEMIC MATERIAL, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DIFFERENTIATING THE POLICY TO SUPPORT ALL OF OUR STUDENTS AS FAR AS THEIR NEEDS. I THINK THERE'S STILL A LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE ON THAT PIECE SPECIFICALLY. ALSO, MEMBER RENDON, I APPRECIATE YOU MAKING THE POINT ABOUT THIS CONCERN ABOUT DISNEY PORN THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP SEVERAL TIMES ASKING WITH REFERENCED AS BEING IN A LOT OF OUR OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL CLASSROOMS. I WAS ALSO UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT AS A DISTRICT, ASIDE FROM THIS POLICY, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO BLOCK THOSE SITES AND PUT STRICTER RESTRICTIONS ON THAT. AS OPPOSED TO PUTTING AS OPPOSED TO PUTTING THAT QUESTION BACK TO MEMBER GRAY, IS THERE SOMEONE FROM I.T. THAT CAN VERIFY THAT WE DON'T ALLOW OUR STUDENTS STUDENTS TO ACCESS PORNOGRAPHY FROM OUR CLASSROOMS EVEN ON THEIR DEVICES. THEN I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION ABOUT THE PARENTAL RIGHTS AROUND US MOVING FORWARD AND THAT LAW. BUT IF WE HAVE ANY FEEDBACK AROUND, BECAUSE IT IS CONCERNING THAT I KEEP HEARING THAT OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL STUDENTS ARE IN A LOT OF ELEMENTARY CLASSROOMS ACCESSING DISNEY PORN. IS THAT TRUE? >>Van Ayres: MEMBER VAUGHN, THAT IS NOT TRUE. I WANT TO GO BACK TO OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, OUR WAY OF WORK RIGHT NOW IN ALL OF OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS IS THOSE CELL PHONES ARE PUT AWAY BEFORE THEY GET TO SCHOOL AND THEY ARE OUT OF SIGHT THE ENTIRE SCHOOL DAY UNTIL AFTER SCHOOL. THOSE ARE DECISIONS MADE BY OUR PRINCIPALS. THERE ARE -- STUDENT CELL PHONES ARE OUT OF SIGHT, IN BACK PACKS THE ENTIRE SCHOOL DAY IN ELEMENTARY. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, SPECIFICALLY, NO, THEY ARE NOT ACCESSING ANY OF THOSE SITES. >>Jessica Vaughn: OKAY. I APPRECIATE THAT. LASTLY, MY QUESTION, I GUESS, WOULD PROBABLY BE MORE FOR MR. PORTER OR FOR MS. DAVIS AROUND THIS. I KNOW THAT WE'VE BEEN REFERENCING OR MEMBER GRAY AT ONE POINT REFERENCED LIKE THE RECENT SOCIAL MEDIA LEGISLATION THAT WAS JUST PASSED AND THE GOVERNOR SIGNED YESTERDAY WITH SOME SOME AMENDMENTS, BUT I'VE BEEN HEARING THAT HEARING THAT THAT DOES VIOLATE SOME OF THE PARENTAL RIGHTS LAWS THAT HAVE PREVIOUSLY BEEN PASSED BY LEGISLATION AND THERE IS ANTICIPATION THERE MIGHT BE SOME CHALLENGES AROUND THIS IN GENERAL. I KNOW THAT AT THE STATE LEVEL, WE'RE STILL TRYING TO SEE HOW THAT ALL WORKS OUT. I'M CURIOUS IN JUST LEGAL STANDARDS, IF WE WERE TO IMPLEMENT SOMETHING LIKE THIS AT THE DISTRICT LEVEL, DOES IT IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM, MAKE US MORE LIABLE FOR POTENTIAL LAWSUITS THAT WOULD BE LAWSUITS THAT WOULD BE EMPOWERED BY THE PARENTAL RIGHTS LEGISLATION THAT HAPPENED A FEW YEARS AGO AND WHAT OUR THOUGHT PROCESSES ARE ON THAT? AGAIN, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK PROTECTS US AND I VALUE IS THE ABILITY THE ABILITY TO MAKE SOME OF THESE DECISIONS AT A SCHOOL SITE SPECIFICALLY. SO THAT IS ALL OF MY THOUGHTS AND MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. >>Jim Porter: MS. VAUGHN, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. THAT LEGISLATION WITH SOCIAL MEDIA WOULD NOT IMPACT THIS. THIS IS DEALING WITH ELECTRONIC OR CELL PHONES AND OTHER ELECTRONIC DEVICES TO THE EXTENT THAT STUDENTS THAT STUDENTS ARE THAT STUDENTS ARE ACCESSING SOCIAL MEDIA, WHATEVER WAY THAT THEY ACCESS THEM IS SORT OF A SIDEBAR TO THE MAIN SIDEBAR TO THE MAIN POLICY. THIS IS DONE SPECIFICALLY THIS IS DONE SPECIFICALLY IN ACCORDANCE WITH FLORIDA STATUTES AND WE WOULD BE IN LINE. THAT WOULD NOT IMPACT YOUR ABILITY TO PASS A POLICY ON THIS. >>Jessica Vaughn: EVEN IF THE STATE POLICY WAS STATE POLICY WAS CHALLENGED UNDER SOME OF THE PREVIOUS LEGISLATION. >>Jim Porter: YEAH, I DON'T THINK -- THEY WOULD BE CHALLENGING ON A DIFFERENT. >>Jessica Vaughn: OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS THAT I HAD AT THIS TIME. I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING IF THERE ARE CHANGES AND IF WE HAVE ANOTHER WORKSHOP OR WHAT COMES IN FRONT OF US AT A BOARD MEETING. THANK YOU. >>Jim Porter: MS. GRAY NEXT AND THEN MR. WASHINGTON AND THEN THE CHAIR WILL WRAP IT UP. >>Henry "Shake" Washington: THANK YOU. I'M QUITE SURE WE HAVE A FEW PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE CONCERNS, TOO. WHAT IS OUR GOAL? IS IT OUR GOAL TO NOT HAVE CELL PHONES OR HAVE CELL PHONES? BECAUSE I'M SITTING HERE AS A SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER, FORMER ADMINISTRATOR FOR 40 SOME YEARS AND I'M KIND OF AND I'M KIND OF CONFUSED. BECAUSE WE HAVE POLICIES IN PLACE. WE JUST HAVE TO FOLLOW THE POLICY. WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH SOCIETY THE WAY IT IS. SO WE'RE EITHER GOING TO HAVE IT OR NOT HAVE IT OR CRITIQUE IT THE WAY IT SHOULD BE. THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR. CAN SOMEBODY GIVE ME ANSWERS ON THAT? I THINK THAT WOULD BE MORE EFFICIENT THAN JUST TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO OR WHAT WE WANT TO DO. LET'S GET DOWN TO THE NITTY-GRITTY. >>Jim Porter: I THINK THE INTENT OF THE POLICY WOULD BE TO NOT ALLOW CELL PHONES DURING INSTRUCTIONAL TIME. THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH YOUR CURRENT POLICY AND WITH STATE LAW. AND THEN IT IS ABOUT THE DETAILS OF HOW IT'S ENFORCED. THE GOAL WOULD BE NO CELL PHONES DURING SCHOOL. THAT IS THE OVERALL REACHING GOAL, BUT WITH A LOT OF DETAILS TO BE WORKED OUT. THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING AND I THINK THAT WAS THE INTENT OF THE POLICY. >>Van Ayres: OUR CURRENT POLICY AS IT EXISTS RIGHT NOW WE ARE OPERATING WITHIN THAT POLICY AND RIGHT NOW THERE ARE NO CELL PHONES OUT IN ELEMENTARY DURING THE SCHOOL DAY. OFF, OUT OF SIGHT THE ENTIRE DAY. IN OUR MIDDLE SCHOOLS, SAME THING. THEY ARE UTILIZED A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT IN MIDDLE, BEFORE AND AFTER THEY CAN UTILIZE THEM. WE DO GET DIFFERENTIATION IN MIDDLE SCHOOLS, SOME ALLOW THEM DURING LUNCH, SOME DON'T. BACK TO MEMBER RENDON'S POINT OF ALLOWING THE SCHOOL ADMINISTRATOR TO MAKE THOSE PARTICULAR DECISIONS. HIGH SCHOOL WE'RE PRETTY CONSISTENT. I HAVE MR. BRADY HERE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS. HIGH SCHOOL IS PRETTY CONSISTENT THAT BEFORE AND AFTER SCHOOL THEY CAN UTILIZE THEM AND OUR HIGH SCHOOLS ALLOW THEM DURING LUNCHTIME AND DURING PASSING PERIOD. WITHIN OUR CURRENT POLICY THAT WE HAVE, WE HAVE DIFFERENT PROCEDURES THAT ARE IN PLACE AT DIFFERENT LEVELS. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP, BECAUSE I WANT TO LAND THE PLANE ON THIS BECAUSE WE HAVE A WAY OF WORK THAT WE ARE FOLLOWING WITHIN OUR CURRENT POLICY. I THINK THE NEW POLICY THE WAY IT IS WRITTEN STILL ALLOWS US TO CONTINUE OUR WAY OF WORK THAT WE'RE IN. I DO WANT TO WRAP THIS I THINK UP AT SOME POINT. >>Jim Porter: MS. GRAY AND THEN THE CHAIR. >>Patti Rendon: MR. PORTER, DO YOU WANT TO GIVE MR. WASHINGTON EXACTLY WHAT THE SAW STATES THAT OUR RESPONSIBILITY IS? >>Jim Porter: WE CAN PROVIDE THAT. >>Patti Rendon: IT DOES IN CURRENT LAW, HOUSE BILL 379 FROM LAST LAST YEAR, 2023 LEGISLATIVE YEAR, IT PROHIBITS STUDENT USE OF WIRELESS COMMUNICATION DEVICES DURING DEVICES DURING INSTRUCTIONAL TIME PROVIDING AN EXCEPTION, REQUIRING A TEACHER OR DESIGNATED IN AN AREA FOR WIRELESS COMMUNICATION DEVICES DURING INSTRUCTIONAL TIME, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. SO THE SO THE POLICY SO THE POLICY WOULD RELATE BACK TO THIS IN A MATTER OF HOW WE'RE UTILIZING COMMUNICATION UTILIZING COMMUNICATION DEVICES OR WIRELESS COMMUNICATION DEVICES AND GIVES US FLEXIBILITY DURING INSTRUCTIONAL TIME. I THINK THAT IS THE KEY PART OF THIS. >> [INAUDIBLE] >>Lynn Gray: MEMBER >>Lynn Gray: MEMBER WASHINGTON, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT, THE CONSIDERATION WHEN THIS WAS WRITTEN WAS UNDER THE LEGAL PREMISES OF FLORIDA PREMISES OF FLORIDA STATUTE 1,003.42, 1,003.42, 1,006.09, 1,006.1494. THIS WAS DONE IN THE EFFORT TO MAKE IT CONSISTENT WITH THE TREND OF THE FLORIDA STATUTES THAT'S COMING DOWN. ALSO, I WANT TO MAKE A ALSO, I WANT TO MAKE A REMARK. WHEN WE HAVE REACTION SUDDENLY, I HAVE ALL THE I HAVE ALL THE SUPPORTING BILLS FROM 2022 UP TO THE HOUSE FROM 2022 UP TO THE HOUSE BILL 3. THIS WAS NOT A SUDDEN REACTION. THE COMMITTEE I HAVE ON SOCIAL AND ONLINE SAFETY, WE'VE BEEN MEETING FOR SIX YEARS. THERE'S NO SUDDEN REACTION HERE. THE PROBLEM, EVEN THOUGH WE SAY NOTHING IS HAPPENING IN ELEMENTARY, I DISPUTE THAT. I DISPUTE THAT BECAUSE I KNOW VERY MUCH WHAT'S GOING ON. I HAVE I HAVE TWO ELEMENTARY GRANDKIDS AND NOT TO MENTION THE STATISTICS FROM OUR HUMAN TRAFFICKING COMMITTEE. DISNEY PORN, DISNEY PORN, NO, WE SHOULD NEVER SAY NO ONE, NOTHING, OR NEVER. BECAUSE THAT'S NEVER AN ANSWER. SO WE DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE. NEVER SAY NO ONE BECAUSE THAT'S NOT TRUE WITH DISNEY PORN. THAT'S NOT THE ONLY SITE. I JUST MENTION THAT. I ALSO DON'T LIKE THE WORD A LOT. IF I USE THE WORD A LOT THAT IS TOO NEBULOUS AND SHAME ON ME. I SHOULD HAVE THE ACTUAL STATISTICS BUT I DON'T. WE HAVE INCREASED SUICIDE. WE HAVE INCREASED FIGHTING. THOSE ARE STATISTICS. WE HAVE INCREASED ANXIETY. WE HAVE INCREASED HUMAN TRAFFICKING. WHAT DO WE DO? AND WE HAVE LAWS NOW THAT SUPPORT THE CHANGE. WE EITHER CAN PREMISE AND IGNORE AND LET THINGS JUST KEEP GOING AS IT IS WITH THE STATISTICS THAT OBLIGATE US AS HUMAN THAT OBLIGATE US AS HUMAN BEINGS TO CARE AND TO SAFEGUARD THE WELL-BEING OF EVERY CHILD OR LET'S JUST LET LET'S JUST LET THOSE STATISTICS KEEP KEEP INCREASING. I JUST DON'T I JUST DON'T -- I JUST DON'T -- I'M JUST NOT AS AN INDIVIDUAL BOARD MEMBER AND THANK YOU, MEMBER RENDON, ALSO, FOR SUPPORTING FOR SUPPORTING IT, I FEEL LIKE THIS IS A CALL TO ACTION AND IT HAS TAKEN ME MORE THAN A YEAR TO BRING A LOT OF THIS FORWARD. SO THAT IS THE END OF THAT. I'M DONE. THANK YOU. >>Jim Porter: MS. PEREZ, DO YOU WANT TO WRAP IT UP AND THEN WE CAN HEAR FROM THE SUPERINTENDENT FOR NEXT STEPS. >>Karen Perez: TO PROVIDE SOME STATS, STATS, IN 1999 STATS, IN 1999 TO 2021, THE RATES OF OUR CHILDREN FROM AGE 10 TO 17 WERE ON THE INCREASE. AND THEN IN '21, IT DECREASED BY 5% AND THEN IT WENT BACK UP 5% AND THEN IT WENT BACK UP TO 37% JUST TO PROVIDE SOME STATS REGARDING OUR SUICIDE RATES IN OUR 10 TO 17-YEAR-OLDS. SUPERINTENDENT, I JUST WANT TO ASK A QUESTION. I KNOW THAT MEMBER I KNOW THAT MEMBER GRAY TALKED ABOUT OUR PROTECTIONS FOR OUR STUDENTS IN THE SCHOOLS AND I GET THAT WE HAVE AFTER WHAT HAPPENED HERE IN FLORIDA WITH THE MASS THE MASS SHOOTING, THAT WE DID GET IN PLACE AND REALLY PROTECT OUR STUDENTS. BUT WITH OUR BUT WITH OUR STUDENTS, OUR PARENTS JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO HEAR FROM THEIR KIDS, I GET THAT THE THE TEACHERS ARE ABLE TO CALL. OUR TEACHERS ARE ABLE TO OUR TEACHERS ARE ABLE TO SECURE, AND OUR SCHOOLS HAVE A AND OUR SCHOOLS HAVE A SYSTEM IN PLACE. BUT BUT WHAT I WAS SPEAKING TO IS THE STUDENT. CAN WE PLACE SOMETHING INTO THIS REGARDING THE STUDENT? AS FAR AS IN CASE OF AN EMERGENCY? >>Van Ayres: YEAH, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WORKING WITH STAFF TO HAVE SOME ADDITION, WORKING WITH MR. PORTER AROUND STUDENTS. REMEMBER, OUR STUDENTS HAVE, WHEN THEY BRING THEIR CELL PHONE TO SCHOOL, IN THEIR BACKPACK TURNED OFF. WE CAN WRITE SOME TYPE OF POLICY WORKING ALONG WITH MR. PORTER IN ADDITION ADDITION TO THIS IN CASE OF EMERGENCIES AND WORKING WITH CHIEF NEWMAN AS WELL. MAKE IT SIMPLE. GIVE ME DIRECTION, MY UNDERSTANDING THIS POLICY WITH SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT MEMBER RENDON BROUGHT FORWARD AND SOME OF THE OTHER COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS, THIS POLICY WILL BE MOVING FORWARD AND THEN ON OUR END, OUR STAFF SIDE, WE WILL THEN JUST WORK PROCEDURES AROUND THE POLICY THAT'S WRITTEN. I WANT TO BRING CLARITY TO THAT, CORRECT? OKAY. WE'LL DO SO. >>Henry "Shake" Washington: [INAUDIBLE] I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT CONSEQUENCES. >> [INAUDIBLE] >>Jim Porter: BOARD MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR COMMENTS. THIS WAS VERY, VERY HELPFUL, AND WE'LL BE BRINGING BACK THE FINISHED POLICY. >>Van Ayres: MS. DAVIS, IF YOU HAVE -- WE'LL MOVE HAVE -- WE'LL MOVE FORWARD. I THINK WE HAVE SIX OR I THINK WE HAVE SIX OR SEVEN, EIGHT TO MOVE THROUGH. >> COLLEEN FAUCETT, OUR >> COLLEEN FAUCETT, OUR CHIEF OF ACADEMICS. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO POLICY 21-31 IF EVERYBODY IS READY. >>Karen Perez: YES, WE COULD GO ON. >> GOOD MORNING. I'M GLAD I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO THE BOARD MEMBERS AHEAD OF AHEAD OF TIME ABOUT THESE -- I THINK I PRESSED THE BUTTON. I'M GOING TO START AGAIN. I'M GLAD I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY PRIOR TO TODAY TO TALK TO ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THEY HAD BEFORE THIS MORNING. WE HAVE FIVE POLICIES FROM ACADEMIC SERVICES. POLICY NUMBER 21-31, THIS IS A POLICY THAT IS JUST A REVISION. THE LANGUAGE IN THE POLICY TALKS ABOUT PROGRESS TOWARD MASTERY OF THE NEXT GENERATION SUNSHINE STATE STANDARDS. THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE BEEN IN EDUCATION FOR A WHILE UNDERSTAND THAT THE STATE CHANGES STANDARDS AND BENCHMARKS ON A PRETTY REGULAR CADENCE. RATHER THAN CONTINUING TO UPDATE THE POLICY AND CHANGE THE NAME, EVERY TIME THE DISTRICT CHANGES THE NAME, WE JUST MODIFIED THAT TO SAY THE CURRENT ADOPTED FLORIDA STANDARDS AND/OR BENCHMARKS SO WE'RE ALWAYS COVERED WITH THAT. >>Patti Rendon: I HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT. WE'VE LEFT THE LAW AS IT IS IN FLORIDA STATUTE 1,008.31. HOWEVER, I DO HOWEVER, I DO BELIEVE AS OF LAST YEAR, A LAW DID UPDATE SOME OF THOSE STANDARDS, AM I CORRECT? >> YES, MA'AM. WE'LL BE SURE THE REFERENCE IS IN HERE. >>Patti Rendon: -- OR ADDITIONAL TOO TOO BECAUSE SOME OF THOSE NEW LAWS ARE EFFECTIVE IN THIS POLICY. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. IF IT'S ALL RIGHT WE'LL KEEP MOVING. 22-10, CURRICULUM DEVELOPMENT. ONCE AGAIN IT IS A CHANGE TO COMPLY WITH WHERE THE STATUTES AND RULES ARE RIGHT NOW. THE ONLINE 17 AND 18, THE STATE DIRECTIVES AND GUIDANCE TO US TALK ABOUT THE TALK ABOUT THE K-12 COMPREHENSIVE READING PLAN DUE TO THE IMPLEMENTATIONS WITH THE SCIENCE OF SCIENCE OF READING, ANOTHER INITIATIVES, THAT LANGUAGE IS NOW THE EVIDENCE-BASED COMPREHENSIVE READING PLAN WHICH THAT CERP IS ALSO FUNDING THAT COMES INTO THE ITICATE TO SUPPORT THAT SUPPORT THAT PLAN. THAT'S JUST AN UPDATE OF LANGUAGE. >>Patti Rendon: YOU'LL CHANGE THAT STATUTE TOO? >> YES. >> COLLEEN, DO YOU WANT TO DO -- >> >> 24-32 IS REGARDING OUR DRIVER'S ED PROGRAM. I INVITE ASHLEE CAPPUCCI, WHO SUPERVISORS THAT PROGRAM, TO COME UP AND JOIN IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS. THIS IS A POLICY THAT WE'VE HAD IN PLACE AND IT WAS RECENTLY UPDATED IN UPDATED IN '21. THIS IS ON LINE 6 WHERE WE ARE MAKING A CHANGE MAKING A CHANGE REGARDING WHEN WE CAN CHARGE FOR OUR DRIVER'S ED PROGRAM. I'LL LET I'LL LET ASHLEE TALK ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT. >> SURE. OUR CONTINUING CONTRACT THAT WE HAD WITH DRIVER'S EDUCATION WITH THE THE DEPARTMENT OF HIGHWAY SAFETY USED TO HAVE LIKE A CONTINUING CONTRACT. IN 2021, THEY NO LONGER MAKE US HAVE A CONTINUING CONTRACT. EVERY THREE YEARS OUR DISTRICT AND OUR TEACHERS HAVE TO RECERTIFY. CONTRACTUALLY, THEY FILL OUT A CONTRACT BECAUSE EACH OF THEM ARE DELAP CERTIFIED. IT STANDS FOR DRIVER LICENSING ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. IT MAKES IT SO STUDENTS TAKING OUR DRIVER'S EDUCATION OUR DRIVER'S EDUCATION COURSE, THEY CAN BYPASS A LOT OF THE REQUIREMENTS BECAUSE THEY HAVE TAKEN OUR COURSE WHEN THEY GO TO THE DMV. THROUGH THE CONTRACTS, OUR TEACHERS TEACHERS APPLY AND SO THE UPDATED CONTRACT UPDATED CONTRACT IN 2021 SAID WE CANNOT CHARGE ANY FEE OR TAKE ANY GRATUITIES FOR STUDENTS. I CAN ANSWER ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ON ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU ALL MAY HAVE. >> THOSE CHARGES WOULD BE FOR DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR WE WOULD CONTINUE TO CHARGE DURING THE SUMMER PROGRAM. AND WE DO HAVE THAT DORI SLOSBERG GRANT FUND WHICH BRINGS MONEY INTO THE DISTRICT TO OFFSET THAT COST THAT WE WOULD BE CHARGING STUDENTS FOR, FOR GAS, CERTIFICATION FEES, MAINTENANCE OF THE VEHICLES, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. >> ALL RIGHT. WITH PERMISSION, MEMBER PEREZ, MAY WE FINISH THE LAST TWO ACADEMIC SERVICES WHILE WE HAVE COLLEEN UP HERE SO JUMP COLLEEN UP HERE SO JUMP TO 5114 AND -- >> >> 5114 LITERALLY IS JUST A TITLE CHANGE. AS MY TEAM AND I WERE READING THROUGH ALL OF THE POLICIES, JUST TO KIND OF GET A REFERENCE TO WHERE ACADEMIC SURFACES SITS WITHIN THOSE POLICIES, THIS POLICY STOOD POLICY STOOD OUT POLICY STOOD OUT BECAUSE IT IS CALLED -- WHO ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? IMMIGRANT STUDENTS, MIGRANT STUDENTS? IT'S NOT UNTIL YOU READ THE POLICY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOREIGN EXCHANGE STUDENTS. THAT PROVIDES CLARITY IN OUR TABLE OF CONTENTS TO ANY READERS. THE LAST THE LAST POLICY IS 5420, ON LINE 9, WE'RE JUST ADDING AND/OR ELECTRONIC REPORTS. THIS POLICY TALKS ABOUT THE BOARD DIRECTS THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A SYSTEM OF REPORTING STUDENT PROGRESS WHICH SHALL INCLUDE WRITTEN REPORTS. OUR REPORT CARDS ARE AVAILABLE TO STUDENTS AND PARENTS THROUGH THE PORTAL BUT WE CERTAINLY PROVIDE PRINTED OUT COPIES IF A PARENT REQUESTS THEM. >> I DID WANT TO POINT OUT WITH MEMBER FAUCET TO THE BOARD HERE, THE REASON THESE ARE BEING BROUGHT FORWARD IS YOUR DUE DILIGENCE AND REQUEST THAT WE CONTINUALLY REVIEW POLICIES. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S SOMETHING MS. FAWCETT AND HER TEAM HAVE BEEN DOING. THE NEXT CYCLE YOU WILL SEE MORE. >>Van Ayres: THANK YOU. >> IF WE CAN GO BACK UP TO OUR THREE THREE ESE THREE ESE POLICIES, THREE ESE POLICIES, 24-60 -- >>Karen Perez: MEMBER RENDON HAD A COMMENT. >>Patti Rendon: IT'S OKAY. I'LL SAY AFTERWARDS. >> WE'LL DO 24-60 IF YOU ARE READY FOR THAT. SHANNON. >> OKAY. POLICY 24-60 HAS BEEN UPDATED TO REFLECT SOME LEGISLATIVE AND STATE STATE STATUTE CHANGES STATE STATUTE CHANGES SINCE 2014. WE UPDATED WE UPDATED THE LANGUAGE TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE IDEA LANGUAGE AND STATE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES. OUTLINES THE DISTRICT OBLIGATION FOR EXCEPTIONAL STUDENT EDUCATION. SO THE FIRST CHANGE OTHER THAN JUST SOME LANGUAGE JUST SOME LANGUAGE CHANGE, WOULD BE UNDER C, LINE 25 TO 27, AND WE JUST ALIGNED SOME LANGUAGE WITH THE IDEA AND OUR STATE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES. THAT GOES ALL THE WAY TO 61. AND THEN IF YOU LOOK AT STARTING LINE 74, WE HAVE LINE 74, WE HAVE ADDED ADDITIONAL ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE, INCLUDING FLORIDA REQUIRED PARENT CONSENT. THE FLORIDA STATE LAW HAS LAYERED ON TO THE IDEA FOR OUR STUDENTS WITH DISABILITIES WHO ARE RECOMMENDED TO TAKE AN ALTERNATE ASSESSMENT OR BE PLACED IN AN PLACED IN AN EXCEPTIONAL STUDENT EDUCATION CENTER, SO FLORIDA REQUIRES THAT WE HAVE PARENT CONSENT TO DO THAT. WITH THE EXCEPTION OF IF YOU ARE PLACED IN AN INTERIM ALTERNATIVE PLACEMENT DUE TO PLACEMENT DUE TO DISCIPLINE FOR NO MORE THAN 45 DAYS. AND THEN LINE NUMBER 93 ON IS NEW LANGUAGE AROUND THE REVISION TO THE FLORIDA STATE STATUTE AROUND PRIVATE INSTRUCTIONAL PERSONNEL. THIS IS PROBABLY THE THIS IS PROBABLY THE LARGEST, NEWEST PART. THIS PRIVATE INSTRUCTIONAL PERSONNEL WHO ARE HIRED BY PARENTS THROUGH THEIR PRIVATE INSURANCE, THIS INSURANCE, THIS JUST OUTLINES THE RULES AND REGULATIONS AROUND THAT. WE ADDED -- THE STATE HAD ADDED RBTs TO THE LIST OF FOLKS WHO COULD BE SERVING OUR CHILDREN IN OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS THROUGH THE PARENT REQUEST. IT DOES OUTLINE THAT THIS CANNOT INTERFERE WITH FAPE AND THAT INTERFERE WITH FAPE AND THAT THE STUDENT'S AND PRINCIPAL CONSENT ON THE TIME AND PLACE OF WHERE THE SERVICES WOULD BE PROVIDED. ALL OF THOSE PERSONNEL ALL OF THOSE PERSONNEL HAVE TO BE YELLOW BE YELLOW BADGED. THEY HAVE TO BE A VENDOR. E, LEAST RESTRICTIVE ENVIRONMENT, THAT CURRENTLY -- OR THAT WAS OR THAT WAS POLICY 2,460.01 WHICH WE HAVE DELETED AND JUST ADDED IT HERE. IT DIDN'T REALLY MAKE SENSE TO HAVE A SEPARATE POLICY. WE JUST DELETED IT FROM THERE AND ADDED IT HERE. LINES NUMBER 1, 6 -- 169 TO 172 WAS WAS JUST WE ADDED TO ALIGN WITH OUR FP & Ps. AND PARTICIPATION IN STATE AND DISTRICT ASSESSMENT, WE HAD SOME NEW STATE BOARD RULES THAT WE HAD TO ADDRESS. SO IF YOU LOOK AT LINES STARTING AT 205 ALL THE WAY AT 205 ALL THE WAY DOWN, THIS IS UPDATED INFORMATION STATING THAT STUDENTS HAVE TO PARTICIPATE IN STATE ASSESSMENTS, BUT IF IT'S NOT A GOOD MEASURE OF THEIR ABILITY, THEN THE STUDENTS ARE ENTITLED TO A WAIVER. IT ALSO ADDS THE IT ALSO ADDS THE INFORMATION ABOUT EXTRAORDINARY EXEMPTIONS AND THAT THEY HAVE TO BE SUBMITTED TO THE COMMISSIONER FOR FOR APPROVAL. WE HAVE TWO KINDS OF THOSE EXEMPTIONS. WE HAVE A MEDICAL COMPLEXITY EXEMPTION WHICH CAN BE GRANTED FOR ONE, TWO, THREE, OR PERMANENTLY. AND THEN WE HAVE THE AND THEN WE HAVE THE ONE-YEAR EXTRAORDINARY EXTRAORDINARY EXEMPTION. THE SUPERINTENDENT CAN GRANT A ONE-YEAR EXEMPTION IF THERE WAS A MEDICAL INCIDENT THAT WERE TO OCCUR DURING THAT 60 DAYS THAT WE HAVE TO SUBMIT IT TO THE COMMISSIONER. YOU HAVE TO SUBMIT YOU HAVE TO SUBMIT IT 60 DAYS PRIOR TO THE ASSESSMENT, BUT IF SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN TO A STUDENT THAT THEY NEEDED THAT, OUR SUPERINTENDENT COULD GRANT THAT FOR ONE YEAR. AND THAT IS IT FOR 24-60. 2,460.01, THAT IS THE ONE THAT HAD THE LRE THAT WE HAVE DELETED AND THEN WE ADDED IT AND THEN WE ADDED IT TO 2460. 2623, THIS IS CHANGE IN WORDING TO REFLECT PERSON FIRST LANGUAGE AND ADDRESS NEW COMPONENTS OF A STATE BOARD RULE AROUND STATEWIDE ASSESSMENTS FOR STUDENTS WITH DISABILITIES. SO ALL THE LINES BETWEEN 53 SO ALL THE LINES BETWEEN 53 AND 64 ARE NEW LANGUAGE. SO THIS SO THIS IS IN RESPONSE TO THE FEDERAL REQUIREMENT OF ONE PERCENT, MEANING THAT NO MORE THAN ONE PERCENT OF OUR STUDENTS WITH DISABILITIES CAN BE ON AN ALTERNATE ASSESSMENT. IT INCLUDES THE UNIQUE ACCOMMODATIONS THAT THEY NEEDED TO BE SUBMITTED TO THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ED AND APPROVED BY THE COMMISSIONER. IT ALSO INCLUDES LANGUAGE AROUND THE CRITERIA FOR THE CRITERIA FOR PARTICIPATION IN THE ALTERNATE IN THE ALTERNATE ASSESSMENT. SO THIS REQUIRES THE IEP TO PUT IN LIKE A CHECKLIST OF WHAT OUTLINES THE CRITERIA FOR A STUDENT BEING IDENTIFIED TO BE ON ALTERNATE ASSESSMENT AND THE STUDENT HAS TO MEET ALL OF THE CRITERIA, INCLUDING A NEW CRITERIA WHICH SAYS CRITERIA WHICH SAYS THAT THE COGNITIVE SCORE HAS TO BE IN THE FIRST PERCENTILE. YOU COULD HAVE A STUDENT WHO IS INTELLECTUALLY DISABLED BUT IF THEY ARE NOT IN THAT FIRST PERCENTILE, THEN THEY COULD BE -- THEY WOULD NOT BE ELIGIBLE FOR ALTERNATE ASSESSMENT AND WOULD BE REQUIRED TO BE ON OUR REGULAR STANDARDS AND TAKE THE REGULAR ASSESSMENT. IT ALSO SAYS THAT ALL IT ALSO SAYS THAT ALL STUDENTS HAVE TO BE EXPOSED TO HAVE TO BE EXPOSED TO OUR GENERAL ED CURRICULUM WITH ACCOMMODATIONS FOR TWO FTE PERIODS BEFORE THEY CAN BE CONSIDERED FOR AN ALTERNATE ASSESSMENT. SO THAT IS WHERE WE UPDATED THAT LANGUAGE. >>Karen Perez: THIS HAPPENED THIS WEEK. I HAVE A YOUNG I HAVE A YOUNG MAN WHO HAS AUTISM, AUTISM, AND HE IS LIKE TESTED GENIUS BUT HE HAS AUTISM AND NEEDS THOSE SUPPORTS. WHAT HAPPENS TO THAT? >> REFERRING TO THE ALTERNATE ASSESSMENT? >>Karen Perez: UM-HUM. >> IF HE OR SHE IS NOT IN THE FIRST FIRST PERCENTILE, THEY WOULDN'T MEET THE CRITERIA TO TESTED ON ALTERNATE ASSESSMENT AND WOULDN'T BE ELIGIBLE TO BE TAUGHT ON THE ACCESS POINT. HAVE TO BE GIVEN THE REGULAR STANDARDS WITH ACCOMMODATIONS AND MODIFICATIONS AND AND MODIFICATIONS AND EXPECTED TO TAKE THE REGULAR ASSESSMENT. >> MEMBER RENDON, YOU HAVE A QUESTION? >>Patti Rendon: THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT THAT BEFORE WE GET THESE POLICIES TO US WE MAKE SURE WE UPDATE ALL THE FLORIDA STATUTES ON THESE POLICIES. I DID SEE THAT ON THE ESE ONES AND I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH. WHEN IT COMES TO THE LAST ONE WE TALKED ABOUT, 1%, BY THE WAY, TALKED ABOUT, 1%, BY THE WAY, IS 67 IQ AND BELOW IS WHERE THAT THRESHOLD FALLS. ANYONE WITH 67, 68, 69 ARE GOING TO BE IN THE 1%. FLORIDA IS ONE OF VERY FEW STATES THAT DO NOT HAVE THE WAIVER FOR THAT 1%, WHICH MAKES A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE WITH OUR GRADUATION RATES, WITH OUR ALTERNATIVE ASSESSMENTS, WITH OUR ALTERNATIVE EDUCATIONS. SO I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING OUR DISTRICT NEEDS TO CHAMPION AND LOOK AT BECAUSE WE DO HAVE THAT. THAT IS THAT GAP OF SEVERE THAT IS THAT GAP OF SEVERE WHERE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT RECOGNIZES THAT PERSON HAS A DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITY AND YET WE AS A STATE DO NOT HAVE THE WAIVER TO ALLOW THAT, FOR THEM TO HAVE THE ACCOMMODATIONS THEY REQUIRE. SHE IS CORRECT IN MAKING SURE THAT OUR POLICIES FIT IN. BUT I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE WE PUBLICLY MENTION THAT IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD BE CHAMPIONING AS A DISTRICT ON A FEDERAL LEVEL. IT IS SOMETHING THAT, QUITE FRANKLY, OUR FEDERAL LEGISLATORS REALLY DON'T UNDERSTAND AND DON'T KNOW AND RECOGNIZE AND WE ARE CONTINUALLY WORKING ON THAT. ALSO, I DO WANT TO MAKE NOTE THAT I DON'T SEE ANYWHERE IN OUR PREVIOUS POLICY THAT WE TALKED ABOUT. AND LET ME KNOW IF IT IS IN THE WRONG WRONG PLACE, 2460, ESPECIALLY DURING OUR IEP MEETINGS THAT WE ARE REQUIRED AS PART OF OUR POLICY TO MAKE SURE WE ARE EDUCATING OUR STUDENTS DURING THE THE IEPs NO LATER THAN 12 YEARS OLD ON FUTURE PLANS AND SERVICES THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO THEM. THAT IS PART OF FLORIDA STATUTE THAT I DO NOT SEE IN HERE UNLESS I MISSED IT. >> NO, I DON'T BELIEVE IT IS IN THIS POLICY. IT'S PART OF THE IEP. >>Patti Rendon: YES, PART OF THE IEP PROCESS. IF WE COULD LOOK AT MAKING SURE WE ACCOMMODATE THAT IN HERE AS ONE OF THOSE STATUTES. I THINK, AGAIN, GOING BACK TO OUR STUDENTS, THESE POLICIES ARE VERY CRITICAL TO MAKE SURE WE DO THAT. THE OTHER THING IS, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ON LINE ITEM 94, TALKING ON LINE ITEM 94, WE SPECIFICALLY SAY WHO IS HIRED OR CONTRACTED BY THE PARENT. THESE SERVICES IN WHICH THESE OUTSIDE VENDORS ARE GOING TO BE COMING INTO OUR SCHOOLS, THEY ARE NOT CONTRACTED OR HIRED BY OUR PARENTS. SO WE NEED TO CHANGE THAT LANGUAGE. THEY ARE ACTUALLY HIRED BY EITHER INSURANCE COMPANIES. THEY ARE HIRED BY THE STATE OF FLORIDA. THEY ARE THEY ARE HIRED THROUGH MEDICAID BUT NOT HIRED BY OUR PARENTS OR CONTRACTED WITH. >> THIS IS RIGHT FROM THE STATUTE. WE PULLED THE LANGUAGE RIGHT FROM THE STATUTE. >>Patti Rendon: WE NEED TO MAKE SURE OUR POLICIES, ARE WE ALLOWING PEOPLE NOT ALLOWING PEOPLE NOT CONTRACTED. WHAT DOES THE DEFINITION OF CONTRACT SAY? I THINK IT'S CRITICAL WE TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AGAIN. I BELIEVE THE REASON AND THE PURPOSE OF THE STATUTE WAS TO ALLOW IF SOMEBODY IS RECEIVING SERVICES, ABA THERAPY SERVICES, ABA THERAPY THROUGH STATE MEDICAID PLAN, AND WE DO NOT HAVE AN NOT HAVE AN ABA PROVIDING IT WITHIN OUR SCHOOLS YET IT IS ON OUR IEP TO HAVE AN ABA, WE COULD BRING AN OUTSIDE ABA THAT IS PROVIDING THAT SERVICE TO THE INDIVIDUAL OUTSIDE. THAT ABA WOULD NOT BE CONTRACTED BY THE PARENT. THEY WOULD NOT BE HIRED BY THE PARENT. IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE BASICALLY A MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT THAT THAT PROVIDER IS BEING UTILIZED THROUGH A SERVICE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE FIRM UP THAT LANGUAGE SO THAT WE GIVE PARENTS PARENTS FLEXIBILITY BUT YET MAKING SURE THE WAY IN WHICH WE WORD IT, I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT OUR SCHOOL STAFF ARE INVOLVED IN THAT DECISION. IT'S CRITICALLY IMPORTANT FOR THE SUCCESS OF THE STUDENT THAT EVERYBODY FROM THE CIRCLE OF SUPPORTS ARE ON THE SAME PAGE. >> I THINK JUST TO CLARIFY, THIS PARTICULAR PARTICULAR STATUTE IS FOR SERVICES REQUESTED BY THE PARENT. IF IT'S SOMETHING IN THE IEP THAT WE'RE SAYING THE STUDENT REQUIRES AND NEEDS, THEN THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO PROVIDE. THIS PARTICULAR STATUTE IS FOR PARENTS WHO I BELIEVE IT WAS INTENDED BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY SO MANY SLOTS OF THERAPY AFTER SCHOOL, SCHOOL, RIGHT? SO PARENTS -- AND KIDS CAN BE EXCUSED ABSENCE FOR GOING TO THERAPY, BUT I BELIEVE THIS WAS TRY TO HELP WITH GETTING SOME OF THE THERAPY DURING THE DAY SO THAT KIDS COULD HAVE THERAPY AT SCHOOL VERSUS JUST SCHOOL VERSUS JUST NOT IN THE CLINICAL SETTING. THIS PARTICULAR STATUTE ISN'T REALLY ABOUT THE REALLY ABOUT THE IEP. IT'S ABOUT PARENTS WANTING THAT THERAPY AT SCHOOL AND NOT NECESSARILY AFTER SCHOOL IN A CLINICAL SETTING. BUT THE HOURS THEY ARE GRANTED THROUGH THEIR PRIVATE INSURANCE, LIKE SOME INSURANCE COMPANIES WILL APPROVE WILL APPROVE 40 HOURS, SOME LESS THAN THAT. THE PROCEDURE THAT WE HAVE IS THAT THE PARENT COMES TO THE PRINCIPAL AND SAYS I WOULD LIKE MY THERAPY AT SCHOOL AND THEY SIT DOWN AND HAVE A COLLABORATIVE MEETING. WE HAVE A FORUM THAT THE VENDOR HAS TO SIGN, THE PARENT HAS TO SIGN AND THE PRINCIPAL SIGNS AGREEING TO WHEN AND WHERE THAT WILL BE DELIVERED THAT WILL NOT IMPEDE FAPE AND WHAT HOURS THAT WILL BE. >>Patti Rendon: I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THE POLICY SAYS. UNDER HERE A UNDER HERE A STUDENT'S IEP SHALL BE BE REVIEWED AS NECESSARY. COLLABORATE WITH PRIVATE INSTRUCTIONAL PERSONNEL, THAT DOES SOUND LIKE IT IS PART OF THE IEP. QUITE FRANKLY, IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OUTSIDE PERSONNEL IN THERE, IT SHOULD BE ON THE IEP. >> IF A >> IF A PARENT >> IF A PARENT HAS A PRIVATE -- OR RBT THAT THEY ARE WORKING WITH, WHEN WE COME TO THE WITH, WHEN WE COME TO THE TABLE, THE PARENT HAS THE RIGHT TO INCLUDE THAT INCLUDE THAT OUTSIDE MEMBER SO THAT OUR STRATEGIES ALIGN. THAT MAKES SENSE. WHATEVER WE'RE DOING IN SCHOOL AND THE PARENTS ARE DOING OUT OF SCHOOL, WE DON'T WANT OUR STRATEGIES TO CONFLICT. THAT WOULD BE VERY CONFUSING FOR THE STUDENT. THEY ARE ENCOURAGED TO BE PART OF THAT IEP TEAM MEETING. THAT'S PART OF THE STATUTE SAYS THEY CAN COLLABORATE WITH THEY CAN COLLABORATE WITH US. THEY CAN OBSERVE THE STUDENT AND THEY CAN PROVIDE SERVICES IN THE SCHOOL. IT IS THE THREE PARTS OF THE PIP PART. >> MS. RENDON, I'M SORRY, MAY I ASK IF IT WOULD BE CLEARER IF WE DELINEATED IN THE DOCUMENT ITSELF, IN THE POLICY ITSELF WHEN IT'S REFERRING TO WHEN THE PARENT REQUESTS AS OPPOSED TO WHEN IT'S A PART OF THE IEP. WOULD IT BE EASIER IF WE CLARIFY IT IN JUST THE WAY WE LAID IT OUT IN THE POLICY? >>Patti Rendon: YEAH, I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE VERY MAKE SURE WE'RE VERY CLEAR. THERE'S NO DOUBT IN MY MIND THAT THIS POLICY IS CRITICAL FOR THE SUCCESS OF SUCCESS OF OUR DISTRICTS AND FOR STUDENTS. THIS DEFINITELY NEEDS A LOT OF THOUGHT BECAUSE IT IS DEFINITELY REGARDING FEDERAL AND STATE LAWS AND IT IS A CRITICAL AND IT IS A CRITICAL PIECE. SO, YEAH, IT'S VERY WORDY. IT'S VERY WORDY. I KNOW THAT WE ARE VERY TECHNICAL WHEN IT COMES TO THAT. BUT I THINK IT REALLY NEEDS TO MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT A COUPLE MORE EYES ON IT, FIRST, TO MAKE SURE WE DELINEATE ALL PARTS OF BOTH STATE AND FEDERAL LAW AND WE MAKE IT VERY CLEAR, THIS IS IEP. THIS IS PARENT. BECAUSE WE'VE GOT PARENTS WHO ARE GOING TO REFER TO THIS VERY CLOSELY. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE POLICY WE IMPLEMENT PROTECTS STUDENTS, STAFF, DISTRICTS, AND PARENTS. I ALSO DON'T WANT TO LIMIT, RIGHT? WE DO HAVE A SHORTAGE OF CRITICAL SKILLED STAFF IN OUR DISTRICT, WHETHER ABA SERVICES, WHETHER SPEECH, WHETHER O.T. I DO WANT OUR POLICY TO REFLECT OUR ABILITY TO HAVE THOSE OUTSIDE PEOPLE COMING IN TO PROVIDE THAT SERVICE ON AN ONGOING BASIS BECAUSE A SPEECH THERAPIST IS NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING BUT ENHANCE THE EDUCATIONAL DEVELOPMENT OF OUR STUDENTS. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT THAT ABILITY. IF WE COULD TAKE THIS BACK AND JUST MAYBE -- I DON'T WANT TO SIMPLIFY IT. THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT WORD. >> CLARIFY? >>Patti Rendon: ORGANIZE IT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY, MAYBE, AND CLARIFY A FEW PLACES. I KNOW WE HAVE SOMEONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO SAY WANTS TO SAY SOMETHING. >> I WAS WONDERING, I SEE EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, AS YOU READ DOWN, YOU FLOW RIGHT FROM THE IEP INTO THAT SECTION. THAT PIECE HAS A TITLING STATUTE, AND I WAS WONDERING IF THIS MAKES SENSE TO THIS MAKES SENSE TO EVERYONE TO PUT LETTER E PUT LETTER E CALL IT COLLABORATION FOR PUBLIC AND PRIVATE PERSONNEL AS THE STATUTE READS AS A SEPARATE PIECE AND THAT REALLY KEEPS IT AWAY FROM THE TWO. THE PARTS THAT COMBINE ARE ALREADY IN EACH OF THOSE SECTIONS. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? >> I THINK THAT WOULD HELP CLARIFY THAT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY AN IEP TEAM'S DECISION. THIS PIP PART IS VERY MUCH A PARENTAL REQUESTED SERVICE, AND IT DOESN'T IT DOESN'T REPLACE WHAT WE'RE DOING. IF WE'RE DOING SPEECH THERAPY, MOM AND DAD WANT THE SPEECH THERAPIST TO COME, THAT DOES NOT REPLACE OUR SPEECH THERAPY. IT'S IN ADDITION TO. I THINK THAT MAY HELP IF WE SEPARATE THAT OUT. >>Patti Rendon: HOWEVER WE CAN CLARIFY. LIKE I SAID, THIS IS A VERY CRITICAL PIECE OF OUR ACADEMIC SERVICES THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE LINE UP BEFORE WE PASS IT. >> SHE'S NOT AREA 4 ANYMORE. >> IT'S 4 FOR LIFE. [ LAUGHTER ] >>Van Ayres: THAT IS ALL OF OUR POLICY REVISIONS. I DO I DO APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION AND PROVIDING ME DIRECTION, PARTICULARLY WE HAD OUR POLICY REVISIONS THAT WE WILL KEEP BRINGING THOSE FORWARD TO THE BOARD AS REQUESTED BY YOU BOARD AS REQUESTED BY YOU BACK I THINK IT WAS SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER THAT WE BRING THE POLICY REVISIONS FORWARD. WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO THAT. I APPRECIATE THE DIRECTION TODAY, THE CONVERSATION AROUND THE CELL PHONE POLICY TO PROVIDE ME DIRECTION TO WORK WITH MY STAFF TO BRING A LITTLE BIT MORE CLARITY AND FEEDBACK AS WE MOVE THIS POLICY THIS POLICY FORWARD. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE CONVERSATION WITH THIS WORKSHOP TODAY WITH THE REVISIONS AND PROVIDING ME SOME DIRECTIONS. THANK YOU. >>Karen Perez: SEEING NO FURTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS, THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED. [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]