I'm making this announcement in compliance with the open public meeting act being chapter 231 public FL 1975 laws of the state of New Jersey the planning board secretary has prepared a schedule of the Mee of the planning board of the burrow of Kenworth for the year 2024 and has posted a true copy of this schedule on the bulletin board located at the front entrance of B Hall and has mailed true copies of this schedule to local source of the Star Ledger and is maintaining the copy of the schedule in Bur Hall accordingly the notices of requirement and meting act have been satisfied in regards to this meeting we stand Pledge of Allegiance I put aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for one na God indivisible andice for all Mr here here Mr we have a motion for the approval of the April 11th minut MO by Mr scary second by Mr Clen all in favor Cathy any Communications no chair okay okay we have some new business it's our Redevelopment study and I'm going to ask Kevin O'Brien to please uh give us a a brief synopsis and maybe we can move on to what's next at the connect yeah uh good evening board members uh guests the Redevelopment study that is in front of you this evening is the result of a process that's laid out in the local Redevelopment law as well as the municipal landing and this process calls for a municipality to make a decision as to whether or not an area should be studied whether it meets qualifications as are Redevelopment so that has happened here in the burough mayor council made a decision that they would like to take a look at property formerly sharing now it's owned by and they passed their resolution back in February we passed two resolutions on the subject in March and in April calling for an investigative study the study merely determines whether or not the area qualifies meets the criteria as an area of need of redevelop back to uh just to remind you about if you remember use oration for remember that your determination on a use VAR has to be whether or not there are special reasons whether there be to positive criteria negative criteria and only if an applicant meets those CR can you grant that variance here in Redevelopment it's very similar in that there are eight criteria for redevelopment and we in the study have got to show how this area that has been determined meets or does not meet those criteria Fran Riner a professional planner has been engaged by the board in order to come up with the investigative study and what he's going to present is going to be a determination as to whether or not that area qualifies criteria to talk about what they are or does not after he is done with his presentation he's going to be next and he's going to be putting something up on the white board for everybody then the board will take action you have a res draft resolution in front of you as to whether or not you believe that this area qualifies meets the criteria is an area need Devol should you do that then this process goes forward and you transmit that resolution to the government body mayor councel and then they can take whatever action they wish to do next which could be taking your approval and running with it or turning it down or only putting part of the property that's their decision next the next step and I want to emphasize again the study only does the determination does it does it not is it is it a an area that qualifies for redevelopment the next time the board actually sees this property foreseeably is if they come in for site plan approval down but as we've talked about over the last two meetings there are a number of steps that have to be taken you see in the chart and after all those steps are taken the final step for a Redevelopment process is for somebody to come back here show you the plan for site development and then it's all back your are there any questions about the process and I'm going to emphasize because a lot of Smoke Gets blown around meetings like this I did not have anything to do with this study um I've talked with Mr rer about it I have read it this is his study his company study uh they are responsible for the content of course and I just wanted to say I think they done a great and thorough job you have an outstanding report in front of you and I'll add again as we talked about last time that this is done six weeks faster than what we could have done on our own so uh Mr chairman you turn this over rer plan he discuss the we need to yeah um Mr R okay if you can raise your right hand pleas i s You When U with regard to this matter do you swear the testimony you're about to give is the TR I thank you I do too um Kevin and the comments that we did make already yes thank to this matter you testimony you may the thank you CH so you want you be qualified or just put on the record that you're a profession a professional plan state of New Jersey since 2011 I'm also a licensed landscape architect in the state of New Jersey I'm lead the planning department of DMR partner thank you Mr chairman and members of the board thank you for having me here this evening Kevin thank you for for the introduction that helps me a great deal in order to kind of walk through the the actual presentation so interruped one second please I promise I will do that members walked in a little bit late before you were able to hand out your pamphlets so would you mind if they also got them did everybody get one everybody got one oh okay everybody I have extra ones if anybody needs one another 10 12 more I'll put right here if anybody wants to take just housekeeping uh Kathy gave me a copies of the notice so I have those for the board so that we can check box so this evening I'm going to present to you an overall synopsis of the report that you have in front of you I'm going going to try and do this in somewhere in the ballpark in 20 minutes or so um maybe a little bit longer maybe a littleit so as was indicated this is the first step in what would typically be a threep process the first step is an investigation study to determine whether or not the property in this one block and lot meets statutory criteria as an area in need of Redevelopment uh the planning board will provide a recommendation back to the mayor and Council and then the mayor and Council would designate uh the through a through a resolution there are two other steps that would uh could follow they're not necessary to follow uh the Second Step would be a Redevelopment plan which would enable or enact as essentially as Zoning for the property and that would come back to the board uh and the board would be asked to determine whether or not the Redevelopment plan was consistent with the bur's master plan and then the third step would be a site plan application typical of any other site application that comes in front so as was indicated there were three resolutions I won't go through in detail there was a resolution requesting the the investigation study that there was a March 14th and April 11th resolution that Kevin had had talked about DMR prepared the investigation study and as we prepare these studies we do a number of things uh we reached out to the building department the fire department the police department and the tax accessor record and asked for records through oppr requests and we given uh that information a number of those documents are identified in the appendices of this report we also did site visits uh as well as visual inspections of each one of the buildings walk through each building met with the property owner on site uh and did a full photo inventory that is within the report we go through some of those this evening um again the the goal is to determine whether or not we meet the statutory criteria according to the state there are eight uh Des eight potential U designations that can that a property can meet in order to be designated for redevelopment this is just a synopsis the full language of each one is actually in within the report but this is kind of just an an overview of what those a are we've highlighted B and H because those are the two that we have identified as as the reasons why this property can meet the statutory crit as and why we recommend that it be designated so the B and H portion this is the full language of each one of those requirements so for B it's the discontinuance of the use of a building or buildings previously used for commercial retail shopping malls and plazas office Parks manufacturer and Industrial purposes the abandonment of such building or significant vacancy of such building or buildings for at least two consecutive years or the same being allowed to fall into so great a state of disrepair as to be unten so the important pieces here are the word the words War are used not the word n and we've highlighted uh the parts that we believe are significant to uh the reasons why we believe the property can be designated it's an office park it has significant vacancies and those vacancies have been uh there for at least two consecutive years we'll go through through those with you and then H is uh the other criteria that can be met and this is that the description of delineate area is consistent with smart growth planning principles adopted pursuing to law or regulation we'll kind of walk through those at the end so in the property is designated what happens that's always an important question that public wants to know and so it's important to know that a designation does not change the zoning there are no New Uses that are permitted and the and the existing uses that are there uh remain and businesses continue to operate in this particular case the designation would be without condemnation so it would not permit a taking or condemnation of any kind uh it does not trigger violation notices uh but what it does do is identifies issues that that could and should be addressed so what we're going to do is we're going to walk through uh the the entire campus with this slide and then we're going to go building by building so the campus is approximately 108 Aces map on the right shows all of the buildings in red and purple that are the buildings that constitute the uh CS so overall there's I'm just going to use round numbers it's specific a little over 3.15 million square ft of total square footage uh within the buildings that are identified in the red and purple on on the map those buildings uh of those buildings that have been vac vacated for over 2 years approximately 2774 million square ft has been vacated for over 2 years so you can see if you just follow the buildings K1 is approxim 163,000 ft and change and it was vacated in 2020 K2 that's the build that was the building was located uh closest to gallopin Hill Road uh that was a million1 ft was demolished in 2015 K5 29,000 ft vacated in 2020 you can go on down the line now you can see K 15 Block B is identified as less than 2 years K15 block e is identified less than 2 years and K15 Block H is identified in less than two years but overall the campus has a vacancy rate of over 88% that have been vacated for more than two years if you go back to the B criteria it says significant vacancies for period over 2 years so so this in our opinion clearly qualifies as being vacated the significant vacancy for over two years within these buildings just to note if you if for some reason you did not want to count the million one foot of the building that was demolished in 2015 you would still have over 82% vacated for more than two years so we're going to go through uh buildings at a time we have some photos of each one of the buildings uh the building K1 is highlighted in yellow uh you're going to I'm going to say a few times uh during my presentation the term functionally obsolete which means uh these are buildings that U that were built but today under current circumstances current off design these buildings would require significant changes or upgrades in order to be able to be um uh used properly so the first building is the building K1 it is a um executive office building and so as as everybody's aware that this campus was one particular user uh Merc and and they had multiple buildings and so this particular building K1 was was intended to be the executive office so in other words only executive uh members of the executive committee were were in this particular building so the design of the building uh is is very nice but but as a uh as if you wanted to retrofit this building or you wanted to bring in uh a different office User it's not designed in a way that would allow for you to bring in conventional office or medical office was only designed for executives so a couple of things about this particular building the building has underground parking of approximately 160 spaces now if you look at at the top is 163,000 Ft building with only 160 spaces so obviously that's not enough parking to support uh the size of building up being one space per th000 square ft there is a twostory Lobby and two-story cafeteria uh the cafet is the bottom right my eyes aren't good enough to see the image number on that figure number on that but there's a twostory cafeteria and and a central core that goes up through all four stories so that when you're on the ground floor it goes all the way up to the to the fourth level uh has natural light however on each one of the floors the design of the building is is that the executive suets are all on the perimeter of the building and then the administration which is one Administration person per exec suite are all on the inner core so to convert that building into conventional office building not for executives we would have to redesign the entire interior in order to allow for some Executive offices and also allow for what would be conventional kind of office design so this would be what we would call a an functionally obsolete building the building has been vacated for more than 2 years uh V since uh 2020 and there is a uh three-story connector building that goes to the next uh to the next building as an attachment just some photos of the executive suites on the top level of the building and then uh you can see on the on the bottom right image the last image that on the right is the uh is the administrative uh Suites and on the left would be the executive sues so there's no the administrative streets don't have any Windows all of the windows are on the executive streets second building is K5 you can see that there's a connection between the K1 building and K5 building uh shown on the map K5 building uh is approximately 175 ft by 175 ft it's been making since 2014 it was constructed in 1968 and there's actually a tunnel that connects this build building to the K15 building and again you can understand that when a campus is designed as a single uh as a single campus for a single user those types of of uses and and and design is is works but when you look at and talk about uh whether or not this building can be adaptively reused there are some functionally obsolete issues with this B primarily it's 175 ft by 175 ft approximately which is 30,000 foot footprint there are no interior Courtyards on this particular building so natural light into the center of this building is uh is difficult uh because of the the excessive depth and length so again this building would be difficult to adaptively reuse without significant Renovations uh given given the the lack of light on the interior and the width and depth of building and then here are some of of the interior of this building again vacant for now about 10 years um just some office suites you can see kind of how the building is is laid out k6 uh has been V since 2019 this building was built in phases uh the first phase was built in 1973 and the second phase in 1984 there are two yards in the center of of this building they don't show up on the on the site plan but there are two Courtyards so there's natural light into the uh interior spaces on on all the levels so the interesting part of this particular building is that the first floor of this building was renovated in approximately 2019 you can see from the images here that that entire first floor was fit out new carpets um upgraded for technology um see kind of I'm standing on the middle Right image I'm standing at one window and you can see across to the windows of the courtyard so again a design that would you know allow natural light throughout the entire building uh what happened was Co hit and uh although they finished the first uh floor no one ever moved back into this so this building is down vac for approximately 5 years and then the other part of this is that the second floor of this building was gut Ren was gutted but it was never renovated so you can see on this page the entire second floor is is gutted right down to the to the studs uh and it was never fit out so again this would this would take um a lot in terms of terms of the amount of work on the second floor in order to be able to make this building functional K1 is a uh a building that was constructed in 1985 has been vacant since 2017 this is approximately 280,000 ft building which has 80% U research and 20% office so what we we notice in this building uh top left image is the lobby space again completely vacant um but what we start to see in the image on the bottom right are some of the interior M spaces that have no windows and really from a design standpoint would have to either be uh renovated in order to open up to to fit office or would have to be worked through from from a research and development stand uh in order to make them functional so again uh just some images of the interior of that building some of the lab spaces and then some of the hallways and then these four Images are some of the uh larger more uh prevalent lab spaces again interior to the building with no natural light Again difficult to adaptively reuse without significant Renovations as a part of project so K15 is is a largest building this is uh this is an interesting building in that although it's it's one bu was actually constructed in eight different what they call blocks so uh six of the sorry five of the eight blocks are 100% vacant not six five are 100% vacant and the five that are vacant have been vacant for over 2 years so you can see uh in the chart K15 block a c d a uh f and g have all been vacant for more than 2 years now this is a a large building and and so you can understand how this building it would be incredibly difficult you would either have to get a single user into this building because there's only one point of Access One point of control so that if you were to try to have multiple tenants or multiple users in this building Say by block you would then have to construct and uh build security entrances for each one of those blocks uh you have to make sure that there were elevated cores in each one of those blocks as opposed to in the Comm and so again this is a building that would be very difficult in order to adaptively reuse um given given the size of it given the design of it because it was designed as a single use for a single use ten so a couple of photos of this uh the exterior of the building again you can see you can see [Music] um there are a lot of uh interior hallways with a lot of interior La space uh that uh really could not be used um other than for lab space so so renovating those would be very difficult top left image is a very typical uh interior lab space no exterior windows uh there are uh there are water spouts in here for cleaning uh but again um really separated and and into very uh delineated kind of within each one of the larger blocks and then some more of the of the interior uh lab space that is part of that building so so all the building has exterior windows the prominant amount of square footage within the overall building is interior with with no uh natural light and then each block is kind of built and designed that way uh as well the other thing to notice is that is that am intends to vacate all these buildings by uh in 2024 so so although the three buildings b e and H don't meet the criteria um it's intended that partk will be out of all the buildings by by the end of this year and then just some final images of this so the other buildings uh we just kind of put together in terms of because they are really ancillary buildings support buildings to the overall campus and as a single campus these these buildings would have been uh used for a single user so you have you know K4 uh k14 are are are both uh for power to the to the overall campus and again if if you think about the Redevelopment of the site um and that there just aren't a lot of single users that will be able to take up this much square footage those kind of power facilities for overall campus would really be possibly uh because you want to bring power into each one of the buildings um so so it was designed as the first single user but but moving forward we believe that these are clearly functioning obsolete um so the other thing that the other buildings k16 is the office building that's closest to galapo Road that's actually in the exterior of the security uh gate into the campus uh this building is also vacant right now although I would say it's being uh it's being renovated and my that the the developer will be going into that building as a part of a potential Redevelopment of the whole site and then the K8 which is the yellow building furthest to my right uh is the former Firehouse again vacant and uh really nothing you can do with a building of that type uh because of the way it's designed has a large Bay this is uh this is k16 this is the office building closest to uh G in the road and then this is the former Firehouse uh interior you see there's a garage and again you know as a single use uh this was was probably necessary but moving forward would really be a building that couldn't be adapted use for any real purpose by itself and then uh k14 uh just the interior of the of the power U that is supped to the buing I did speak with as we walked through the site and speak with the the owner and they made it clear that this is well beyond its um it's expected life cycle so this building is really they're really just trying to finish out U before they leave so kind of an overall conclusion as we walk through this this project and we walk through the the buildings it's clear to us that 88 or just over8 8% of the 3,150 plus th000 ft has been vacant for over two consecutive years and by by by itself that that meets the criteria and can be designated because of that alone that the majority of the buildings were designed as a part of a single campus for a single user and then essentially they're functionally obsolete because of the interconnectedness of those buildings to each other and and that certain buildings were designed speciic specifically for certain uses that by themselves would not would not really be able to be adaptively reused uh to Conventional office without significant Renovations and then uh we also believe that it needs criteria H which uh which follows the state development and Redevelopment plan uh and that is to revitalize uh States uh cities and towns and in this particular case you have uh know 3 plus million square ft of vacant space um and so the designation of Redevelopment allows for this particular property to be to go through a Redevelopment process uh and and adopt a plan that would then provide um zoning to allow for the property to be um Revitalize forward so that uh we believe that meets the criteria H that it conserves the state's natural resources uh in that it's better to to redevelop properties that already have infrastructure uh in the ground where you have parking and you have buildings then it would be to develop Green Field sites so that's an important aspect in terms of conserving the natural resources of the state it obviously promotes economic growth in that buildings are currently vacant and uh and a Redevelopment plan with the intention of a Redevelopment plan is to is to revitalize those buildings and put those buildings back into uh use and then the last to protect the environment and the and the property does have an lsrp and they are cleaning up the site and it's intended to be cleaned by 2028 so for those reasons we believe that the the property and the buildings meet both criteria B and criteria H so the the goal is as we discussed this morning is for the board to determine if based on the report and this presentation the proper meet uh the criteria and can be designated as an Area Redevelopment uh the board would make a recommendation back to the mayor council and then the mayor and Council make decision as to whether or not to designate the property um and then the proper then designation is submitted to the state for review and approve so with that I Happ to answer any questions Mr chair what I want to do more I don't look good in blue can't be good on your eyes I want to Mark both the slides and the report I know they're interchangeable as exhibit A1 let's do B1 for board1 yeah okay um just two things before we um go to questions and things like that um I would like the record to show that uh council president Zimmerman is here as part of the public tonight and uh that we didn't mention this earlier and I should have that uh board member L and um and Greg David were excused tonight because they have another board meeting um at the board of ed of course and you know sometimes those things are crazy and I wanted to thank the rest of the board members that did come here tonight for this special meeting understanding how important it was and is that we have this special so we can move things along um and Council Le on Morrow is not here tonight so I may uh ask the council president and the uh mayor uh if I could just deliver a message again as I did last week but it may not be necessary um however I just wanted to get that out U so everybody knows where we are um with that being said you saw the presentation the board members or anyone uh not anyone from you us the board members have any questions at this point you do mention LSR 202 contamin yes so when a site is contamin I'm not a civil engineer but but I'll give you the the broad understanding of so when a site is contaminated uh the states made aware of it as part of the cleanup process they uh they they assign an lsrp which is an environmental engineer that is helps uh make sure that the process is is moving forward to clean up the site and so when we went through this initial process with the property owner they had indicated to us that they have an lsrp on site they are mediating the site and that the intention of the remediation is to be done by 2028 uh I will tell you that that the kind of environmental issues that we kind of walk through on a a big scale not of of tremendous significance there it's really just an identification of of of contaminants that need to be cleaned up and that's what they're doing I'm sorry sure sure I didn't mean to be rude I just can you mind just reviewing what our what we are considering so before you this evening is the mayor council had asked uh the board planning board to determine whether or not this particular property uh which is block 18 181 L1 meets the state statutory criteria as an area needed redevelop and so as I as I mentioned in my presentation Kevin mentioned as well there are eight criteria that that the property can meet that State stat you only have to show that you meet one of those criteria you don't have to show that you meet all so we've shown you this evening is that we believe it meets criteria B which is you know overall says two consecutive years of significant vacancies and we also indicated that it meets the uh smart growth policies of the state so the board's responsibility this evening uh I get this wrong I know Kevin somebody correct me but the board's responsibility this evening is to make a recommendation back mayor council as to whether or not you believe the report that we've issued and the presentation we've made constitutes uh meeting the same statute criteria and therefore a recommendation back to the mayor council for them to designate it would be that kind of step process but what you also mention one of your slides is what development and um what it does not do is it doesn't change zoning it doesn't allow them to do anything more than what is there now so understanding that then what is the core purpose of us approving this yeah so so the Redevelopment has really it's it's a it's a two-step process the first step is determine whether or not a property prop the statutory criteria and like you said if if it does it doesn't change any of the zoning it doesn't permit New Uses or take away any uses that are already permitted so that would be the first step now the second now if a recommendation goes back to the mayor council and if the mayor and Council designates the property then the next step is really the step where where you're asking the question which would be the mayor and council could can then choose to move forward with a Redevelopment plan a Redevelopment plan essentially just represents new Zoning for that proper right where that part com where zoning changes and makes specific to yes now mayor and Council would initiate that Redevelopment plan process again that's not part of tonight but but the board's role in that would be to determine whether or not the Redevelopment plan that we would come back to present to you the Redevelopment plan whether or not that Redevelopment plan is consistent with the with bur's master plan and then you would you would make a recommendation back to the mayor and Council to say it is consistent or is not consistent and then the mayor and Council would make a decision frankly either way so if you say it's not consistent the mayor council can still vote to adopt it it's just have to be by super majority you can say it is consistent and then the mayor council has to adop can adopt it just by simp majority so in in two overall scenarios of one the board act in favorably tonight through the process you just did and uh it allows the site in question to potentially get different uses through the Redevelopment plan uh in which case the Redevelopment plan kind of set the goal for uh it would supersede the zoning ordance it would just be that scenario two they don't act favorably in which case the site in question just remains same use and you have to get a pharmaceutical back in there research develop back there right so so if the if the board were to I might ask I might ask wating on this I I'm I I believe that the mayor council I want to say I believe the council can vote regardless of the recommendation I'm not positive that if we say if if this board does not recommend this approach then the count the governing body can still do it but I think there's a super majority involved no no I get that I'm just trying to paint the picture of we act favorably it goes through Redevelopment get a whatever if we don't act favorably and let's just paint a picture if we don't act favorably American Council says no we don't fa blah blah then that just if everything STS if everything stays the same then it is what it is if someone wants to if someone wants to come in and rejuvenate this project it would come to us if they wanted a whole new new use there but I'm telling you for how many acres are we dealing with that's a heavy lift for use I listen I'm just trying to paint the overall picture because yeah you know now that would be yeah I think you need a new crush just to be clear a Redevelopment plan there are multiple options you can Redevelopment plan can supersede the underlying zoning a Redevelopment plan can be can be done as an overlay in other words you can either choose to use the Redevelopment plan uh zoning or the underlying zoning and and there's nothing to say that the that a Redevelopment plan wouldn't allow for the same uses and and more it doesn't mean that that medical office or research development wouldn't be a use that would be part of a Redevelopment plan it just there may be other uses that are added to allow the property to be redeveloped uh in if this is basically private Zone which is allowed under the Redevelopment law if the steps are followed which up to this point so it's basically I get pictur so that everybody knows and the planning board when and if the council prepares a Redevelopment plan it would come back to us as as rank said um Grant said to to take a look at and then at the end of the process we would hear there would be a site plan application for whatever is proposed to go in there which is going to be consistent Redevelopment plan so we have couple more bites of this yeah and likely with the site this size it's probably not going to be one site plan application probably you'll probably be having site plan applications year after year based on P any want to will question I just I I like how you follow up so I would I think you know we have a little bit more discussion but I think it's a good time to maybe open this to the public and then come back to our our professionals okay so someone have a motion to made by Mr SEC by Mr scary in favor anyone from the public wishing to speak on this matter in this matter only okay see none close closed by Mr basio seconded by Mr scary all in favor okay so we we heard um from Mr learner R rer sorry Al was was close we heard from Mr Ryan and uh I would like to ask our engineer and our planner to weigh in on what you saw uh here tonight um to advise our board maybe one step further and then I'm also going to ask the board members if they absolutely understand everything that's going on here tonight because we're going to make a decision that is going to affect the burrow uh going forward so uh Chris thank you chairman um I had a chance to review this study earlier like um uh Kevin did and I I agree you was very well done and um especially the I agree that almost 88% of it be that this will be Mr thank you chair you want to stand I think Mr ryer has given a very conclusive presentation to the board I agree with his study and his recommendations to the board his conclusions this property in my opinion is a planner does indeed meet the qualifications for the Redevelopment law and I believe that uh it is well within the ability of this board to adopt the study recommended to the F Council and then take action than any board members wishing to speak on this um it's it's important that we all understand what's in front of us yes just from fire department standard we've been in that I've been in those every one of those buildings multiple times and like the report says they they do lend themselves to be very difficult to rent out at least out to more than one more than one0 the way entrances are open floor plans and the uh one everything's all open there's no nowhere you can block off even the floor half a floor so uh I do agree that would be very difficult to up anything it's definitely V originally thought the planner was going to I've seen this done when you try to stretch to make things fit into that that hole that square p worldfor uh but it was a comprehensive plan and I think uh we exceed our present in this matter I don't think we have much of choice when it comes to it and this is comprehensive this this is as far as I see good anyone else okay um first let me apologize for calling you Mr learner right Mr rer I do think as you're as the planning board chair here you did prepare an outstanding presentation and you made it very very easy to understand and uh moving forward uh with the advice of our planner and our and our engineer and of course our attorney um I have to say that I'm I'm very very satisfied with what's in front of us and I think this is a step in the right dire the right direction um it did take an extra couple of weeks in order to iron out some of what I'm going to call the protocols however uh I apologize for that delay uh but going forward we will expedite things as best we can I didn't want to take a minute to just say that um I feel comfortable now that there is no legality issues there's no uh no one's going to come back to this order or to us any way shape or form and say that we did something wrong or just that just one so we're here now so I'm going to ask uh someone to make a motion uh to move forward and that this uh plan is consistent with the B plan there's a motion there's a a resolution in front of you should you should have it in front of you um recommendation determining that laot 181 one Etc approved tonight memorialize tonight that's what we're voting that um that the preliminary ation has determined and we agree that it is determined that this property is is meets the criteria for non- condemnation area in needed Redevelopment and second thing we're doing is to recommend to the fal Council that they proceed that they formulate a Redevelopment um plan and adopt a Redevelopment plan for this for this site uh knowing it's not part of the resolution knowing that it'll come back us eventure so we did go ahead and prepare this resolution in anticipation that uh if this presentation went well um that this would move forward however it's not my decision it's yours it's ours so do we have a motion to uh approve this uh presentation and this resolution moving forward motion made by Mr Clen sec by Mr DeLuca roll call please Mr yes Mr yes Mr yes Mr mat yes yes yes and Mr yes thank you very much good job I just want to say thank you I really appreciate Kevin's help with everything your guidance glad we that thank Mr Right and and and I want to say congratulations and let's get this thing moving we're very very very happy that you're here okay and I am now signing this resolution it's that counil on wednes I'm sorry guys we didn't uh wait we didn't have roll call did we we call next Mo oh the next motion is comments for the good board I'll that uh we probably don't have ating we should do a field trip so when don't we finish why don't we just finish protocol is someone want to make a motion to open the meeting to the public by Mr all favor I anyone from the public seeing none okay motion to close by Mr second by Mr scary is there a motion to adjourned by mrtin seconded by Mr massia all in favor good night and thank you for