##VIDEO ID:jOG1YDXowT4## soon to the single family I call to order the October 2nd 2024 Planning Commission meeting please join me in the flag pledge do you have a copy of the agenda I do I don't have one all right all right miss good road will you please take a call of role for members rovic here Zimmer Zimmer here a here Swinson zuzik here kala here all right agenda item number three approval of the minutes for September 19th 2024 Planning Commission meeting minutes um fellow Commissioners any changes to minutes no the minutes will stand and then agenda item number four any announcements uh good evening chair uh this evening uh you have handouts for agenda item 5A the Crown linkville Apartments those are the motion from last night's parks recreation and natural resources committee meeting uh you also have a revised preliminary plat and site plan which I will address during my um presentation and then provided that none of these items are tabled these applications will be brought forth to the October 21st city council meeting all right thank you agenda item number five um are public hearings these anyone wishing to speak on a public hearing um please make sure you fill out the information in the back of the room 5A this is a public hearing for Crown LMN LLC it's a preliminary plot of one lot to be known as Crown Lakeville Apartments number two a conditional use permit to allow the following in the rh2 multifamily residen District 2 a construction of more than one principal Residential Building on one lot of record and 2B construction of multiple family residential buildings that are greater than 40t 48 ft in height and 2 C an exception to the exterior materials uh provisions and here to give us uh an overview of their project is Bill Griffith nope just kidding that's yes it a 6A sorry I'm very out of source these numbers here my name and uh Commissioners my name is Tom Mel with crown so I just wanted to start first of all thank staff staff's worked very closely with us this is a a very challenging site it's uh quite hilly and uh consequently some of the things that are before you tonight that we're asking uh you to consider Bill Griffith is here bill will take you through what we're doing and we also have with us tonight tonight Emily Casius who will answer any engineering questions that you may have so thank you for uh allowing us to come B grab my chair Commissioners my name is Bill Griffith I'm uh representing the applicant in this matter and as Mr lell said uh challenging site we've been working with the city staff for quite some time to refine the plans and get them uh to this place where they can be presented to you um we're pleased to say that the project complies with the city code in all regards with with um the exception of the conditional use permit issues that are before you the reason for that I'm going to get right into that the reason for the uh cup other than the fact that we have two buildings on one principal lot so that's pretty typical for a multif family project but because of the hilly site it's a four-story uh two buildings of four stories that uh sit at top um underground parking and when I say underground parking it's underground parking in the main but because of this very hilly site it's not possible to bury uh some portions of each building and so those buildings are exposed but as you'll see in the um plans there there's a very nice treatment of those exposed portions of the uh parking garage including windows so we can get into that detail but I wanted wanted to put that out in front of you both the height of the building because the way it's measured from the ground and the building materials on the garage that's the reason for the conditional use permit so I wanted to put that out there right away so uh the uh Crown developer is very excited to bring this project forward it's uh two multifam family buildings highquality rental uh project and it's really intended to serve a demand in the South Metro uh vacancy rates uh throughout the Twin Cities but particularly in the South Metro are low there's demand for this product type the sites are guided and zoned for high density so we're not requesting any discretionary approvals the conditional use permits um operate uh somewhat as a traditional variance um when you're looking to vary code standards in this community that's done in this case through a conditional use permit so the two buildings um sit next to each other I don't know if there's a site plan that um that you can view while we're talking about this but uh the two buildings sit adjacent to each other on top of underground parking as I've said and there's a very significant amenity and play area that is in between both buildings um I think we're going to go through there we go um the I don't know if there's a we can put the plan up as I talk about it or okay well I'm going to let you present I'm going to give the overview and I'll let you go through there there we go thank you very much um so as you can see there's two buildings um those buildings are in on each end of the site um there's a significant Wetland area which will be retained as open space uh trees will be retained in that portion of the property uh and then this amenity area is situated between the two buildings that's where we have a pool a splash pad and a playground the um the in addition to the amenity areas there's a trail connection on the south to the uh Regional Trail um and that trail connection will be linked to the sidewalks uh throughout the project so there's nice pedestrian connections uh adjacent to the buildings that link that uh trail system the sidewalks the buildings and the amenity areas um one of the things that we were discussing the reason we were signing up right as the meeting started is we were talking to our our neighbors um and up on the top end of the site the North End of the site we've added a chain link fence between uh their property and the retaining walls and that's both to provide separation but also safety on on top of that uh that retaining wall a couple other additions um we will dedicate uh RightWay for expansion of the county road so that's part of the platting request so future improvements to uh 210th will be done uh via this RightWay dedicated from the project the um the key to this project really is uh working with the Topography of the site uh we spent a lot of time with staff positioning the buildings discussing the uh garage and the addition of the underground parking and the exterior Mater materials so at this point I will pause and and uh see if there are any questions and then of course let staff uh take it from here thank you thank you good evening Commissioners well Mr Griff did a good job of giving you a quick overview of the project so uh hopefully I can just add to that as we've said this is a preliminary plat in cup uh for three uh separate items we won't need to go through those again as a reminder this site is located north of 210th Street I35 is just off to the uh West here or excuse me the East uh it's near Kook and kesak loop right in this area the Authentics project which you may recall is under construction here uh and the property is zoned rh2 which is a multiple family residential district multif family buildings of four stories are permitted use within that District uh this is the updated preliminary plat for which you have um in front of you this was a a a last minute change the Wetland area was previously within an outlot so it's it's not a major change um the Wetland area was previously within an outlot uh we were running into issues with the floor area ratio um and subtracting out that Wetland area um we were running into that7 floor area ratio for the uh floor area of the building in relation to the lot so um engineering staff supported the change to a conservation easement over the Wetland um so it will still be protected in the same manner it just provides a little extra flexibility for the site and then this is the updated site plan again taking out that Outlaw area that would have been in here and just showing it as it would be an easement otherwise the site plan is unchanged uh so just as to get you situated here this is 210th Street here this is kzk Loop to the South this is an access road that is currently constructed it's a private access point so the project will uh access 210th from here and then provide access into the buildings and the parking lot uh there are the two buildings here there are three garage entrances for these buildings the uh East building has their entrance on the South Side here the west building has two underground garages so there is one access on the South Side that's for the lower garage and then another access um up on the North End here which is for the upper level of the garage uh the East Building is 94 units the West has 88 so there's a total of 182 units and of that 128 70% are the two-bedroom and the remainder are one-bedroom units uh the site does have 377 parking spaces between the garages and the surface spaces uh the site does require 364 spaces so it is in compliance with the required parking uh there is enough spaces under each building to provide um one parking one enclosed parking space for each unit uh within the building and that's one of the reasons a second level was added under that West building was to provide those spaces uh these darker lines that you see here are sidewalks to provide pedestrian access around the site there is also a trail along to10th street so it does uh provide access out to the trail to which folks can access uh the commercial area here to the east the amen the amenity area that Mr Griffith referred to is in this area Uh current plans show a pool a splash splash pad and a playground uh within a fenced area there is also a a small and fenc dog uh run area um on the other side of this drive aisle here and as I mentioned that floor area ratio was just over uh the 7 threshold uh but with this uh Wetland area becoming a conservation easement instead of an outlaw uh the site is now in compliance so stit stipulation number eight can be removed uh from my recommendation because that has been addressed um just to help illustrate the grading uh that is on this site for reference these these uh elevation Lin are sloping down to the Wetland these elevation lines are sloping up to the adjacent parcel um and these are sloping up as well uh so this this building here is not sitting up on top of a hill it is kind of sitting down um lower um so from the side it does not look quite as tall as as one would imagine and this is also higher on the south end looking down where this access accesses the site the area in red is the tree area that will be removed um to accommodate the development of the site uh the the trees to remain are all within the Wetland area um there would be 4.6 trees 4.6% of the trees on the site remaining for that uh this is the landscape plan um trees around uh the site you can see in these areas there's a significant tree area here between the street and the site to help provide some additional buffering um and then there are some Foundation plantings and then plantings within the parking lot Islands as well uh this is the East Building it's a little tough to tell breaks down the materials uh each of the buildings um when you go from the ground the the the ground level up meets the 50% exterior materials requirement which is uh at least 50% brick stone um and so the East excuse me the East Building yes is 52% once you add in the the rockface block for the garage area um that is when it does the brick percentage does dip just below the 50% I believe it's 47% um and as a reminder we do not count windows and doors as a part of these calculations um when the applicant brought um the revised plans to us uh quite some time ago to propose the idea of a second underground garage for the west building um they did raise the issue and point out that they would then be below that 50% threshold and we uh staff and the developer discussed um whether we could be able to support a cup for an exception to those exterior materials and we felt that the additional garage space to to provide that um with the building was um a reasonable request to Grant the or in to support the cup to the exceptions to the exterior materials uh this is just uh exterior color view of rendering of the building this is the the East building this would be the amenity area on site uh this is the west view of that building the amenity area is over here the underground parking of the East Building it does extend out further north than the uh floor plan of the building itself uh but there is enough parking here for one for each unit oh sorry wrong direction and there is just a sample floor plan I believe this is the first floor just to give you an idea of the general layout there is a large patio area here and then this is the west building uh same situation again the the elevation um drops down to provide the access to that garage which is what brings it uh below that 50% threshold um the height on these buildings uh because we measure uh Building height from the average grade not at where the ground level and not at its lowest point we take the average grade the buildings do exceed the 48 ft that is listed in the rh2 district if we did the measurements from the the first ground floor level the build both buildings would meet that 48 ft height um so it is the the topography on the site that is what is pushing it over we have seen that with a few other um buildings as well multif family buildings um the site the building also includes a parit um up at the top um it is taller than than uh 3 feet so we can't EXP exclude it from the height measurements um otherwise it would be considered slightly shorter but again staff is supportive of that height given the topography um on the site again these are just some exterior elevations of that West building the underground garage space for that building um the lower one enters from the south end and the upper one enters from the the Northeast side here and then just the floor plan typical one and two bedrooms uh that is all I have for you this evening um staff does recommend approval of the crown Lakeville apartment's preliminary plat and cup subject to the seven stipulations listed in the planning report as a reminder stipulation eight has been satisfied and can be removed from the recommendation this is a public hearing and I'll stand for any questions you may have thank you all right and seeing as this is a public hearing anyone wishing to speak on this agenda item can come forward evening hello my name is Colleen Powell I live at 11774 205th Street West my property but theirs on their North Side um I have talked to the developer and the owner before coming in so they let me know about the chain link fence but I'm requesting black chain link fence um we have town houses owned and rented on our East property we also have single parent homes on our single property we now have Authentics on our single property which is affordable housing unb Nots to most people that at Christmas time when people seem to move and soon as school's out in June we get a lot of dogs and cats that we assume people have let go because they don't want to take care of them anymore and that is why I'm requesting a fulling fence on our North property line because it kind of deers the animals from coming through I also wanted people to know we have 10 coyotes in my area that roam around in little packs so I don't know if you knew that there was that many in that area they ruined half my speech talking to me before um I just little history the property that they bought my father sold about 1969 1970 right after County Road 70 came in he sold that 10 acres for $110,000 that's how much property has gone up in this area that's just unbelievable um just want to please consider my request for full length fence on the North property line Thank you thank you anyone else wishing to speak on this agenda item just a couple of questions uh based on the drawing shown so I'm Chris Powell um I actually live on the property 11770 205th Street West uh which they own their son and uh so I'm in the property uh just north of what we're talking about here and uh saw one blip of the tree trimmings that was over on the right side that looked like it was higher than the rest I'm assuming that all the trees coming down are all the all the trees coming down are are on their property across their property line I guess guess I question if they are or not okay and then uh second question is uh the elevation change was on uh on the drawing as well so from the edge of the building where it goes uphill uh to the north I'm just wondering how much elevation change there is and if there's any plan for a retaining wall or not those are my questions thanks thank you anyone else wishing to speak on this agenda item Madam chair I'd move to close the public hearing second I have a motion in a second to close the public hearing all those in favor please signify by saying I I IED all right the public hearing is now closed um okay do we want to address the trees and the elevation and the retaining wall first if we and pull up the the tree picture as far as the retaining wall question goes um ra are you referring to the yes um for the North propy Line we're looking we're looking at the highest point over here um that is9 and then down the building is um 11 this building here is 11 so this is technically slightly lower than the building here um and grades continue to slope down this right here is a retaining wall between this parking lot and and then if we're looking at this side as well there is r and right here between these high Gres and the building that's that's lar um this is actually between the building and a like three feet lower than this but along the retaining wall about 10 and the bottom here is5 so this North ret it right there I just wondering what that is um or is it just the shade of the tree I think that is just the shade of the tree the tiny printing says tree off site okay so it looks like that my guess is that not my guess the tree there is probably right on the property line so when you're looking at removals to get the full root Zone it would go slly to can you speak into the microphone sorry about that um the tree is right on the property line so the full root Zone um to remove the whole tree and the affected roots that would cause that slight off-site impact there if you clearing trees all so it sounds like all the way up to and on the property line correct all the way up to the property line um m castus castanias u the folks that had asked some questions about the trees being cut down and then um the elevation issue so um this retaining wall is higher than the building lower than BL can you be a little bit more specific about what that is it depends on which side you were looking at on this North Side uh the retaining wall is high and the ground beyond the building is low so the building down to the north side is so the residents on the other side will see this retaining wall or they will see the building or they will see both um both on the North side on the uh West Side the wall is uh lower so you would be looking high on the West Side looking down towards the building I hope that was helpful here Commissioners one of the things I discussed with the developer in that location where that tree might be removed that would only be done uh with the permission of the land owner if if they withhold permission or don't want uh any impact to their site that would have to to be uh that tree would have to be protected and avoided so we we don't have the legal right to do anything on their property and we would not uh we would not do so so I just want to be clear about that and then um in terms of the replacement for any trees uh removed there's a two to one replacement requirement under city code and then are you able to address um the ask for the fence to be the full length thank you for raising that uh again the developer spoke with the property owners before the meeting agreed to extend the fence the full length of that Northerly property line and I'm sure black is a fine color for for doing that so yes that will be provided and we'll work with them we want to make sure that they know when construction is starting they know what uh potential impacts may be again if it's it's if it's desirable to both Property Owners to remove the tree that's on the property line we'll work with them to do that if it's desirable to retain the tree it will be retained thank you um mam chair uh I appreciate your willingness to to work with the neighbors I just had one other question for you um are these all market rate uh units they are thank you yes and there's uh you know there they're a generous size one of the the issues with the Flor air ratio is and and we appreciated staff's willingness to work with us on that um we wanted we didn't want to um lose the square footage within those units uh because they're more desirable so so the fact that staff was able to accept a conservation easement in lie of an outlaw uh that really uh helped that issue be resolved so and retain those the square footage within the units yeah thank you madam chair Mr osel um you had said that the vacancy rates in the South Metro are high is there a different can you give us the difference between South Metro and specifically Lakeville uh the I don't have the Lakeville numbers I know from working on a project in another southern suburb that the generally in the South Metro the vacancy rates are 2 to 2 and a half% that is low that means that there's a demand for units um and we we know there's a national housing crisis but here in the Twin Cities vacancy rates are generally low but in the South Metro they're lower than in other parts of the Twin Cities thank you so we're meet helping to meet a demand and and doing so within the guidance of your comprehensive plan fellow Commissioners any additional questions or comments I wanted to ask um planner Jensen a question planning manager Jensen the correct title um this location is we're doing the infill with different sites um I didn't I read through things but did the uh schools weigh in and all that kind of stuff on what we usually do for the influx of folks and I I I know we're having a conservation easement and there's a trail connection I'm I and they have a what looks like a small playground what's the closest playground and um like walking area for dogs with this uh development um as far as playground I don't think that there's a public park there will eventually be to the north of 20 5th as a part of the Ritter Meadows uh there is a community um or a neighborhood park that will eventually be constructed uh within that neighborhood um as for where you know folks can walk their dogs you know the trail does uh connect over to Kook which would lead into the um commercial areas as well so um you know they can either do around the building on the site or or use the trail along 70 um to get out and about I know it's not a requirement but the just that we've got another now an in would be an influx with um 182 units as far as schools so where would these kids go to school which I'm not sure what which Elementary School they would be zoned for all right thank you um I have a question for engineering um on uh you know residents often have questions about um uh roads and with County Road 70 here if you could kind of tell us what the I know it's a County Road does the county have plans as far as access like will you be able to to Cross County Road 70 on on KZ Loop or you know is the County eventually going to restrict access uh uh into this development they do not have current plans to rest strict access they have planned this out to be a common access to remain open uh with that uh for lack of a better term that Frontage Road that was constructed to the east that's now continuing West okay thank you commissioner Swinson did you have a question my questions been answered right any additional comments or questions ready for a motion mam chair yes I motion to recommend approval of the crown Lakeville apartment's preliminary plant and conditional use permit subject to the seven stipulations listed in the September 24th 2024 planning report second all right I have a motion in a second Mrs is good road will you please take a roll call vote zik i kza i morovic i Zimmer I Hank I and Swinson I right and when will this agenda item go in front of city council uh we are looking at the October 2 first meeting all right all right yeah thank you and best of luck on your project all right um agenda item number 5B this is LPD C LLC for a preliminary plat of one industrial lot to be known as Lakeville 35 Logistics Center North Edition and two a conditional use permit to allow a warehouse use in the op Office Park District and here to give a brief overview of that project is Ed far good evening Madam chair Commissioners and staff my name is Ed far Edward far Architects representing the developer like partners with me tonight is Mark nordland representing likewise Partners as well as our civil engineer Eric Miller from sitech they'll be available for questions as will I after this um I just really wanted to say hello and uh add a couple things to our application um we did uh based on the response and the staff report add some more um Boulevard trees along Juniper Way County Road 70 is depicted in this uh colored site plan here but the official plans are being resubmitted by the civil engineer so we are complying with that one condition um we also are agreeing to all the other conditions in the staff report uh lastly there's one minor change that happened uh just a few days ago um in lie of the enclosed exterior trash enclosures that we have in a loading dock for dumpsters that tenants can use we're going to insist that all the tenants actually store their trash and recyclables inside the building and the trash haulers will will pick them out uh during evening hours so we won't have any exterior trash en closures otherwise we'll stand open for questions and uh we're happy to be here and appreciate the uh positive staff report thank you thank you good evening planning Commissioners uh this request from this uh applicant and developer uh is for the construction of a 190,000 squ ft uh Warehouse building uh this is this requires a preliminary plat of this property and a conditionally used permit uh for a warehouse Building located within the op Office Park District uh this property is located immediately west of uh of Lakeville South High School in the athletic fields it's located north of County Road 70 which in this curved stretch of the uh County highway it's uh uh Juniper way otherwise 215th Street down here and 210th Street up here here as it crosses Kensington so this is a 39 roughly 39 acre property uh it was divided by uh County Road 70 in the mid 70s when the county acquired this rideway and constructed the uh uh County Road 70 uh the property to the north is uh Trinity Lutheran Church uh the church also owns this parcel to their South uh then the school high schools to the uh to the west and then to the South is the other roughly half of this property and the uh to the uh to the West is um additional Office Park property um the zoning of the property again is op District which is all of this in the purple you can see that that's the zoning of the property on uh clear out to Kenrick Avenue south of juniper way and up to 210 Street with the exception of the church property which is Zone medium density residential uh this is a uh copy of the survey the property survey which shows the portion of the property that's being preliminarily ploted into a lot uh there's a wetland that's identified uh up in this corner here uh otherwise it's a moderately sloped uh uh property and this is the South half of the property uh which is be PL would be platted into an outlaw so back to the north property this is um the warehouse building it's roughly 190,000 Square F feet parking along the front fronting uh County Road 70 and parking along the west access to the property will be from a full turning movement access at County Road 70 to the loading dock area there is a row of uh pavement for uh semi-trailer parking to service the warehouse uh there'll be a loop drive around the entire property which will also provide uh fire access uh the emergency vehicle access and then most of the truck traffic will be coming in and out of this location originally a uh proposal was to have the uh access come out to two uh 15th Street roughly in this area where 215 Street access is County Road 70 and the street was going to come up along the the West boundary when Dakota County plaque commission had reviewed this request uh their determination was that the long-term viability of for uh find this here for a for uh access location at this corner given the curve they determine was less than ideal uh potentially unsafe uh with the high speeds and they directed The full access to be located at this uh upper corner here which would then also eventually provide full access when this area is developed uh to County Road 70 this would potentially then in the future be restricted as determined by the county perhaps for right in right out uh left turns from uh westbound County Road 70 uh let's see here this is the grading plan uh this represents a downward slope from uh the building area uh down to uh the East property line uh there'll be a storm water Pond system that'll be located in the northwest corner of the site uh and then get some moderate slopes going to the west and North uh the proposed building is a tip up concrete panel uh smooth finish painted uh White primarily gray blue accents uh they'll the building is is a what's referred to as a SPEC Building speculative tenant and uh at this point there are number of accesses that are uh proposed uh in the building it could be one user could be four could be more um but the uh ultimately the uh the property is primarily a warehouse constructed as a warehouse structure common that we see along County Road 70 in recent years uh so this building height and building material and building color I'll meet the requirements of the zoning ordinance uh this is another overview of different perspectives uh I did mention in my planning report that the lighting plan had not been submitted this is a copy of the lighting plan uh I don't expect you to be able to read these uh points of light that are identified but it does meet the requirements of maximum intensity of one foot counter or less at the property line uh the lighting fixtures are these uh 35 ft tall poles uh LED lights downcast type lighting uh designed not to have upward glare um so uh there's a couple stipulations I did speak with uh the landscape architect um they are going to submit uh a revised landscape plan to have a row of deciduous trees along the the road Frontage that would be in compliance with our zoning requirements I did identify it in this highlight that it would be submitted um I would recommend that it be remain as a stipulation uh the site lighting plan has been submitted stipulation nine could be remove modified removed um modified because uh we want to still include the requirement that it the lighting plan comply with zoning ordinance and then uh yeah I'll conclude there are findings of fact that are required for the conditional use permit I will stand for a question thank you this is a public hearing anyone wishing to speak on this agenda item can come forward Adam chair not seeing anyone coming forward I would move to close public hearing second I have a motion in a second all those in favor of closing the public hearing please signify by saying I I all opposed all right the public hearing is now closed uh fellow Commissioners any questions or comments I have a question for the applicant um I when we have large warehouses like this uh we used to have a former planning commissioner that would ask this question so I will ask it in his absence um with the you know number of loading dock spaces the number of entrances are you planning on having those numbered in some way um to assist our First Responders uh if they need to respond or would that be up to whoever your tenants are going to be uh good question I did contact the building official and the fire department about that and they do prefer sweet numbers so it'll share one building address I believe it's 20 or 21300 Juniper way but there would be sweet 100 sweet 200 300 400 um and we would use those major 100 numbers uh not knowing exactly how many tenants there would be if someone ends up being another Suite between those it would be 150 or 250 something like that and like would that be like the same for the loading dock like you know B One Two Three or yes some tenants like to have their own numbering system they may say Doc a doc B doc c um uh depending upon who the user is we may decide to number them one through 18 or whatever there is the back of the building uh for the tenants above the door great we don't know yet I appreciate you talking to the fire department about that sure no problem thanks okay no additional questions looks like we might be ready for a motion Madam chair I'll make the motion to recommend approval of Lakeville 35 Logistics Center North addition preliminary plat and conditional use permit subject to the 10 stipulations listed in the September 2724 2024 planning report second second all right I have a motion in a second Mrs good will you please take a roll call vote thank you um we'll start with Movic I I'm sorry I'm butchering these names tonight Zimmer I Hank I Tinsley nope Swanson I zuzek I and clusa I all right and when will this one go in front of city council uh October 19th as well best of luck in your project and thank you and that will will bring the meeting to a close