##VIDEO ID:GSgUcaZby7M## e e e e e e e e e e [Music] you guys ready over there ready on that side [Music] let's get nice TI Grant you must read the [Laughter] [Music] M take a picture I didn't get the memo okay here we go all right we'll call the meeting to order this is uh City commission Monday uh November 25th 25th excuse me the time is 531 uh would you please rise for the invocation The Pledge Heavenly Father we ask that you watch over this group tonight that you help us make good decisions for the city of leeburg we do this in your name amen pledge aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the for which it stands one nation under God indivisible liy and justice for all all right item two is proclamations we have none item three is presentations we're going to have uh Andy read the certification results from the November 5th 2024 election official result certificate of County canvasing Board Lake County we the undersign Carla Pepperman board chair Jennifer Hill B appointee Sarah Jones Circuit Court appointee constituting the board of county canvassers in enforce said County do hereby certify that we met on the 15th day of November 2024 ad and proceeded publicly to Canvas the votes given for the several offices and persons hearing specified at the nonpartisan election held on the 5th day of November 2024 ad as shown by the returns on file in the office of the supervisor of elections we do hereby certify from said return as follows for leeburg seat 3 District 3 the whole number of votes cast was 3,770 of which Jay conell received 1,592 votes Fred Griffin Jr received 713 votes Michael huy received 179 votes Tim Sullivan received 1,286 votes congratulations commissioner canel congratulations ja this time we'll move on to uh item four that's public comments this section is reserve for members of the public to bring up matters of concern or opportunities for praise issues brought up will not be discussed in detail at this meeting issues will either be referred to the proper staff or will be scheduled for consideration at a few future city commission meeting uh comments are limited to 3 minutes do we have any public comment seeing none we'll move on to item five that's the consent agenda uh routine items are placed on the consent agenda to expedite the meeting if the commission or staff wish to discuss any item the procedure is as follows one pull the item or items from the consent agenda two vote on remaining items with one roll call vote and three discuss each pulled item and vote by roll call are there any items anyone would like to pull 5 B4 5 B4 um 5 B3 just have questions please 5 B3 anything else make a motion to approve all remaining items second roll call commissioner canell yes commissioner Ean yes commissioner Peterson yes commissioner Barry yes mayor Bur yes uh would someone please introduce 5 B3 I'll introduce ASP by title only purchase request for five new 2025 excuse me Ford Interceptor utility AWD vehicles for the police department in the total amount of $28,269 from Garber Fleet Sales contract holder for the central Florida region under the Florida sheriff's Association approval second yes discussion yes I just have a question please um this is a total now of is it 14 cars that we have now gotten October 28th we approved I think it was nine that sounds good your number sounds about right okay and will we my my concern is will we have any more coming through that's I was just want to ask I think that's it right for this fisal year this should be and remember so we pay for these with DST funds and that's so we we take the DST fun pay them purchase it goes on that way CU I thought it was going to be more I thought it would be more than that no that's we we replace a certain amount every year okay to out of the all the s some appr so all right no problem that was it I just wanted to Clarity you thank you any other discussion roll call commissioner Ean yes commissioner Peterson yes commissioner Barry yes commissioner kanel yes mayor bur yes someone please interdict 5 B4 UC ask be right by title only resolution of the city Commission of the city of lebur Florida authorizing the mayor and city clerk to execute the Second Amendment to food service conier agreement between the city of lebur and Beacon College Inc sedexo USA Inc and providing an effective date move for approval second discussion I pulled this um first of all their lease is currently expired so they don't have a lease with us second L um this lease started in 2015 at750 $750 a month with no CPI increases and it's still at 750 and then I was going to see well a couple other things I noticed in the lease we furnish everything from electricity um and then on page there section 20 of the lease of the um I don't think they're meeting the requirements of the hours they're supposed to be operational the entire time the library is opened and they're not doing that and then I think it was they were supposed to be doing some promotions and advertising at their cost and they're not doing that as well um I would like to see if we could put this out for bid um and have the city advertise it and then if they come back as the highest best use then we can accept it but I would like to see us put this out to bid and go from there see what your guys's thoughts are on that I have a question what are the hours that it'd be it's supposed to mimic the library hours so whatever those hours are so that's a tough one I mean they are right there um I'm sure they're a big user of the um the library um so it's a coffee shop right now and when you go there in the mornings they're not open so okay well I I probably agree with the hours um this I do like the CPI index so we we pretty much doing that in all leases we do it at the airport I think we do it almost every Le we pretty much gotten what we doing on all leases so that's not unreasonable but as far I'll let the other commissioner speak to bidding it out I'm not sure what I think about that it's just not that big of a lease Library hours 9:00 is that what time the library opens um I mean there should be there and win the library at 6 o'clock 7 o'clock at night they should be open as well for the contract and they're not okay what what do they serve Al Just Coffee coffee Danish is the you know coffee coffee food and coffee me is it I mean is it really even that profitable they could even afford more than 750 a month you know I I'll say this I think commissioner reesman has some points it's an old lease we we haven't really renewed it I think we'll renew it on proba the last options in there before it needs to go out to bid we ended up with them because we had trouble getting a company to to live up to our standards that was some time ago so really from a staff position this is the easy answer for us if if we want to I think Beacon would probably work with us through a procurement process to see what we get when you put it out for lease or you just put it out they they have to do coffee and danish only or yeah we'll come up with some type of procurement process or a lunch no I don't I don't anticipate it being a full service thing just a coffee shop well and that might be something we look at I'll talk to Dusty um you know during the procurement process I wouldn't put any barriers on it if they want to do breakfast lunch Andor dinner I think we I think the barriers are probably just going to be whatever the health regulations are and whatever that facility can manage yeah but I would like to see it go out for RFP publicly advertised and then if Beacon wants to bid on it then they can bid on it and open it up to any other potential restaurants or that go out that would like to go in there does Beacon use this as any type of program for their not that I'm aware of okay so no part of their classes or no right [Music] this my my my gut reaction is I don't think we're going to draw any other biders number one um number two probably doesn't bother me they're not open in the morning because we have a coffee shop about what block and and a half down the street so I'm maybe they go there and help that local business but we're growing downtown and I think we should open it up and see what we get if Beacon bids it then Beacon bids it but that's where I would like to go with it has anyone addressed the coffee shop to see why they're not open has I mean this is the first time I've seen the lease and so so with that in mind uh we have a resolution on the floor yeah so I mean we got to vote it down in order to if you vote it down we'll do a procurement process if you vote to approve it then it's approved okay do you need a motion for the procurement you already no I don't we don't need for that okay with that yes sir thank you any other comments okay roll call commissioner Peterson yes commissioner Barry yes commissioner cill yes commissioner reesman no mayor bur yes we'll move on to item uh five 5c oh no that got the resolutions done I got to move my pages we're going too fast guys okay so uh we'll move on to item six public hearings non- routine items uh Grant if you would work your magic please sir and swear everyone in yes sir I will Mr Mayor uh good evening everyone if anyone is here tonight to speak on item C uh 682 which is the Pud blunt birm rezoning if you would please stand and raise your right hand so we can have you sworn in do you swear or affirm that all testimony you'll give tonight will be the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth all right thank you all Mr Mayor you ready all right thank you all right would someone please introduce uh item 6A one and two I'll introduce n be R by title only 6 A1 an ordinance amending the future land use map excuse me of the comprehensive plan of the city of lebur changing the future land use map designation of certain property containing 31 plus minus Acres from City of lebur industrial to City of lebur General commercial for property generally located south of County Road 48 West of US Highway 27 and east of Haywood Worm Farm Road lying in section 14 Township 20 South Range 24 East Lake County Florida and providing an effective date 68 A2 an ordinance of the city of leeburg Florida changing the zoning on approximately 31 plus minus Acres from City lebur CIP commercial industrial plan to City of lebur PUD plan unit development to allow for a mixed use development for a property generally located south of County Road 48 West of US Highway 27 and east of Haywood Worm Farm Road lying in section 14 Township 20 range 20 for East Lake County Florida and providing an effective date V for approval second okay Dan if you would please come up thank you Mr Mayor Dan Miller Planning and Zoning uh this is the blunt Burch Meer project um the overall proposal is a large- scale comp plan and rezoning of 31.4 plus or minus Acres it's generally located on the south side of County Road 48 and west of us27 which is just west of that new Wendy's behind the wind Dixie shopping plaza there this will allow if approved for future development of 250 attached single family units along with a commercial component um which would lie adjacent to County Road 48 the property is already within the city limits and it is currently zoned M1 which is industrial for the first case which is the smallscale comp plan the request is to change the future land use designation from industrial to General commercial on the second case which is the rezoning the request is to amend the current zoning from CIP which is commercial industrial planned to PUD planned unit development under the Pud requirements The Proposal consists of 250 attached single family residential units 24,000 square ft of commercial uses with no other uses permitted within the proposal the lot sizes would be 20 ft because it's tow houses on the interior and 22 ft on the end units you'd have a front set back of 25 ft the minimum house size would be 1,000 square feet minimum of two off street parking spaces for each unit and two floors being the maximum height there are design and Architectural standards including 35% of the property being in open space the dark sky lighting which is standard as you're aware trees required um 25 foot landscape buffer required along the entirety of the property boundaries and there are fence requirements as seen in exhibit F which is attached within the Pud sidewalks required throughout the development and of course the standard use uh Pro prohibiting St Augustine grass requiring the use of Baya or Bermuda site excess and signage um would have access which will be shown on the site plan along County Road 48 plus one emergency access point on the North Northwest side so that would be a compacted um emergency access the main access would be required to be a Boulevard type roadway with a landscape median of at least 8 feet in width and enough Lane area to allow emergency vehicles to pass if necessary uh the signage would be a decorative entry feature of concrete brick or stucko wall at least 5 ft in height on each side of the entryway the recreational requirements are the standard 200 Square fet per unit which would give us 50 approximately 50,000 square feet or 1.14 Acres which would be set aside for playground dog parks uh barbecue things things of that nature there is a 25 foot buffer that completely surrounds the property and the developer is committed to within that 25t buffer uh building a proposed walking trail that will connect to the proposed Lake County Trail that will go along the south side of County Road 48 uh there is a phasing or expiration Clause as is in all of our puds which requires that development would move forward with substantial commencement within uh four years 48 months or the property would be subject to an automatic reversion to the re1 zoning district and as you'll recall re1 is one acre per unit not one unit per acre but one full acre per unit um Lake County Public Works did require turn Lanes on County Road 48 left turn lanes for entry acceleration and deceleration lanes for exiting the development and additional ride of way along County Road 48 and um room for the proposed Trail Mr Steve Harris of bright holes is here tonight with us as well as Miss Danielle Parker and Mr Rick blunt of blunt development they're here to represent the case and ask and answer excuse me any questions you may have thank you sir any questions for Dan well petitioner would like to come forward evening I'll be brief thank you for setting that up I'm Steve Harris with bride Holmes um 6751 Forum Drive in Orlando uh wish to convey first our thanks to Dan Miller and his staff they've done great have helped provide guidance and uh and expertise as we navigated through this the zoning codes um we have uh I've learned that the blond organization the blunt organization has been working for the last two years with Mr Miller and his staff and every time they've come up with a um solution it's been a less intense solution and is culminating in the project that's before you 250 uh town homes uh I guess I got the Gizmo here there we go this just a location map showing our 31 acre sites you see the intersection of Highway 48 and 27 to the right uh the Arlington Ridge Subdivision the U self storage area that's directly next to us it's worth mentioning and I think Mr Miller mentioned this that this property does not require annexation it's already part of the city um as you mentioned we have a CIP zoning which allows for rather uh substantial uh commercial industrial building uh this Pro this project is substantially less intensive we had a um a traffic study done by traffic and Mobility consultants and their conclusions were the obvious we're far less intensive uh predictively uh there's significantly fewer trips uh that are predicted for this project uh the culmination of the traffic report has several material things I'd like to read for you one is there are no material impacts to traffic on Highway 48 there are no improvements that are required for the intersection of Highway 48 and Highway 27 the only requirements which M Mr Miller mentioned earlier is a left and right turn access uh Lane directly in front of the subdivision and it's worth mentioning this report is going to go through a review and approval process through the county uh after this um after to this meeting here uh let's see wanted to point out a couple things here this the fun stuff sometimes is overlooked it's worth mentioning again these are the amenities that are in the center that aren't easy to see on a tiny little map We have tree buffers along 5way 48 that helps screen subdivision there's a tree line road that goes the main road is treelined all the way into the uh roundabout the roundabout is just adjacent to a a retention pond and a fountain system we have actually designed a center to um retain the Heritage trees that are that we discovered through our tree survey as Mr Miller mentioned we are putting walking trails throughout the entire buffer system along the perimeter of the property and connecting to the uh trail system uh we have located a Tot Lot and a dog park in a safe area it's pretty far away from the streets we have two a couple of green places green Parks uh Central picnic and the Green Park are areas in which we're going to have barbecues potentially fire pits um U picnic tables and such for Gatherings and then finally U up the very top of the screen is the public amenities area which includes a restaurant and I like to dig into that just a little bit um this restaurant and our medic Center which is called leasing in this has uh something like 50 seats it's going to have an indoor and outdoor bar uh scratch kitchen is the ambition we're hopeing have poolside um uh food delivery for our residents it will be open to the public which is important is why we placed it where it is uh surrounding the uh restaurant and leasing area is the pool the spa we also have a pickle ball and a volleyball court but we will have leagues that will invite the public to attend all right last slide this is again the um over subdivision I like to talk about parking we have one and two car garage par garages for each one of the units that are attached uh for each one of those there will be a driveway per car the car the driveway itself will be deep enough to accommodate a car without encroaching into the uh sidewalks and although not required and maybe a little bit hard to see on the screen I circled all the guest parking areas that we sprinkle throughout the center to make it convenient for our guests the final comment I want to make is a modification that we'd like to seek approval for um on Section six D there is a requirement for a fence to be along the entire perimeter short of the front area uh we would prefer to have it modified so that it's only along the side that shares with the self storage area we like the 25 foot wide buffer zone to Standalone as a fencing uh content that would belong to residential areas and what whatnot as a softer play for our development that's approximately where the blue line is that is my uh comments and conclusions happy to take any comments questions I should say uh one question uh and Mike you might help me out on this uh three four years ago we uh looking at subdivisions in this area we required uh like a waiver of some sort so people knew they were moving next to the incinerator or in that vicinity do you yeah remember uh yeah that development was not approved but during the discussion they they end well we end up approving a different type development but when there residential was being proposed uh we did require a disclosure of the indust nearby industrial because of and and and the reason how that evolved was the commission at that time in the prior six or 12 months uh had had some complaints from some of the retirement communities of uh wasn't odors it was debris ashes or something shingy okay but there it was it was a nuisance to neighbors even though the industrial park had been there first we thought that was reasonable um I don't know what your thoughts are about something like that I don't want to run your buyers off but well I can I can respond to that I I we don't have a a problem notifying uh the residents however my understanding is that this this uh event that occurred was actually a um a molch factory that was out of compliance and it was just you know sending off as and I wasn't aware of that okay yeah I don't know if that's Mr Miller is the one who told me this so okay um the incinerator from what I've heard has not created any kind of events have um been a problem I'm certainly interested more than anybody else but I have not heard one um if this body knows one please let me know but my understanding is this is a one-time event that was corrected yeah I wasn't aware of I just remember the incinerator yeah when when the commiss when the commission discussed it we actually didn't know where at least I don't remember where it was even coming from but U we had listen to a lot of complaining but I'm fine based on what you just described yes sir that satisfies me well I mean for what it's worth there is from time to time there is Ash out there where where do you think it comes from the incinerator that's going to be my guess but from time to time you do find Ash on your vehicles and stuff yes you do um couple questions for you yes sir what did your traffic study say about the intersection of 48 and 33 and 470 I don't believe it reached down that far my my traffic engine far it's that that intersection is probably closer than 27 and 48 well um Charlotte yeah I I Le would have it Charlotte Davidson um who was our traffic engineer is here tonight to speak on such matters okay so actually we did analyze that intersection as well and we looked to see if we have any significant impact to the intersection and we did not so there's not going to be a significant impact traffic is not going to get significantly worse or that's ke that's the key word I think significantly worse exactly but adding to an existing you cannot improve it you know just by adding a little bit of traffic but there's not going to be any significant impact to that intersection well I mean what would your estimate of 250 units generate 500 500 more vehicles in in the in the subdivision um so in the peak hour each unit generates about one trip one in or out trip um so that's approximately what 125 going out if it's on 50/50 split and then by the time it splits up and goes either east or west and a lot of the traffic goes to the east to go through the intersection at us 27 where it's only contributing about this 2 and a half% of the traffic at that intersection so again it is not considered significant the average travel would would not notice a significant difference all right and you you had mentioned something and and pardon me I didn't catch it you had mentioned something about this was actually going to be a decrease to something else that's that's correct Charlie can also a decrease to what well currently Zone commercial by right they have the ability to put Industrial Park here and the the reduction in the parking that would be generated by such a facility that's allowed by right is substantially above where we are that's a number that we're actually not comfortable advertising but it's a number that would stun you so you think an industrial use of this property would generate more traffic correct more traffic and more truck traffic well I mean I'm just a 200 250 unit subdivision plus or minus two cars unit I mean you know you're looking at 500 Vehicles you have 500 vehicles at an industrial plant yeah you can generate a lot of traffic yeah at an industrial plant well you know it depends on what exactly the use is but you know all kinds of Industrial Development would generate various rates most of the time I'm industrial buildings are very large buildings and they don't you don't have a a huge occupant load in an industrial complex correct and that that definitely can be the case we looked at the worst case what's the worst case worst case that could happen at the S side that's the key worst case yeah and at that worst case scenario there would be a could be a significant amount of traffic and again there would be truck traffic what's being proposed for the site is substantially less of that so so that's the point we want to make is that a new development that's being proposed is significantly less and therefore the Chang in the land use is actually having a positive impact so we looked at that as worst case and we kind of looked at the intersection of 33 and 48 as worst case got correct yeah yeah thank you now any other questions for the petitioner the only comment I would make um is I've said this on other developments um I I would personally take you know landscape buffers you know over fencing I don't know I don't think I don't think we've made a decision as a commission but I look at this one you're I I guess you want to fence the the Mini Storage correct okay but so the the purple is fence and the rest is landscape and I mean I'm fine with that um I assume the original PUD was fencing all the way around we're on the entire perimeter and wondering if we can make it softer we do want to screen against a commercial use but not the rest and my logic is you know the fences look nice now but 10 15 years repairs algae and uh landscape buffer will improve that's the only comment I have otherwise I I'm fine with it thank you any other questions for the petitioner thank you sir public comment do we have any public comment on this commission comment ah yes again hate to feel like I I bring the same stuff up but again we're talking about a two-lane road here that's about a mile long between 27 and 48 and 48 and 33 and 470 we can't keep dumping all this additional traffic onto this two-lane road that's bottleneck between two intersections only a mile long the the the property already is zoned industrial we're sitting well the city is sitting on over 30,000 residential lots already that's been approved over the years I don't think we need any more residential lots some Industrial and Commercial use actually would be welcomed and I would have to disagree as you know we discussion that was worst case scenario that an industrial complex is going to draw more than 500 potential cars a that's probably going to be in this subdivision just like the intersection of of of 48 and 470 and 33 they looked at worst case scenario with they're I mean basically they're admitting they're going to add to an existing problem already there I mean this may not kick the threshold over to force the county to address that intersection but they're adding to an existing problem we already have we don't need any more residential lots it's already presently zoned industrial we need some commercial industrial in that area and I I say we'd leave it the present zoning so I believe the two lots to the east large large scale lots are both industrial beside this coming back towards the wind Dixie there's still the original UD Dan was that I think that property being I can tell you it's being marketed for residential I don't know what the zoning is it's zoned at least property back to the to the West the property that wraps around wind Dixie back to the east the property is commercial and there is some industrial which is currently being used for I believe it's a mini warehouse storage type use so it's a low intensity type use we got industrial all along we don't [Music] and I appreciate your comment about that I mean that's an opinion and uh I you know my opinion is that property owners have a right to we're not we're not denying their right to use the property we're just saying you use it for the zoning that you have on it we're just saying we don't think it's a good use for this proposed zoning you you know develop it the way it's it's zoned so if you lived in Arlington Ridge right there you would want to see a warehouse with commercial use right in your backyard with loud noises that could operate 24 hours a day well there there's there's there's noise things they can't operate 24 hours a day maybe not 24 hours a day but we would get the same complaints from that we were getting from the mtra shaving company I would rather see personally if I lived in Arlington Ridge I would rather see a residential behind me because it's going to be a lot quieter than a commercial you personally don't deal with that traffic every day it takes me it takes me 4 I drive all over the city every day it takes me 45 minutes to go from down there to 44 in lebur we all drive all over the city every day well I can tell you I just don't think it's a good use and it it's just it's already Zone industrial I think it stays industrial any other comments from Commissioners and it's got industrial all around it already yeah I said in the first reading that I would probably I would prefer to see this the corridor along the road I would rather see residential and Commercial versus industrial and move the industrial south or you way I mean you we have a corridor here that goes into the villages we've got public when Dixie um I think this is a better use I understand the concerns on traffic um but this this is and this is this is not single family this is multif family we we've approved a lot of excuse me a lot of single family but you know this will be what I consider more like uh you know Workforce housing for The Villages and you know other businesses in lebur it'll be more affordable housing or lower more affordable than single family homes I'm thinking my comment would be it's bringing a a younger group as well as I mean it sounds like it would be like you said a mixed group but with the restaurant as amenity for people to come into other residents outside of the um ex outside of this area just that it'll be a new place for a family to visit um um the pickle ball courts it sounds like the amenities are much more attractive and would attract more um younger people as well as well as middle age um the area is very um well it's tight now I agree with you on that day but I think it's going to continue because as the growth goes we'll just wait and hope that the county will then make a move far as widening the road Contin to add to an existing problem and just hope and cross our fingers that the County May one day address this area I mean just what we're doing is planning for the area be in your hand head in the say and just act like we don't have a problem I I don't I we have all addressed Jay that we know there is an issue why do we keep approving these why do we keep approving because land owners have a right to do okay we're not denying the land owners we're just saying we can't not not 250 houses here we have a difference of opinion that's all any other comments so we'll have roll call on uh 6 A1 commissioner Barry yes commissioner canel no commission reesman yes commissioner Peterson yes mayb yes okay so now we'll move to six A2 roll call does does it need a SE seate motion we already yeah we do need a separate motion for each one of these items I'll make a motion to approve 6 A2 second so do we need public comment on this then also uh did we combine the discuss com two yeah I think that I mean we can canvas in case anybody has anything they'd like to chime in just to be safe Mr Mayor if you choose to move forward to approve this one could you do so with the caveat of the fence change work we worked that out a couple days ago I think and the fence will be on the East and partly on the south and we can word that out prior to Signature okay I'll modify my motion to include the upgraded uh updated fence requirements and anything else you good with that is that satisfy yes sir okay so is that an amendment to the motion that we need to uh do we need to just give me I think he made the motion as commissioner rean stated the motion including that and it I think we'll be all right with that okay all right so sorry not turning my microphone so uh do we have any public comment on the Pud specifically we've heard from the petitioner any questions any comments from Commission roll call commissioner canell no commissioner rean yes commissioner Peterson yes commissioner Barry yes mayor B yes someone please introduce item 6 A3 I'll introduce nasby R by title only excuse me 683 an ordinance of the city of leeburg Florida amending the city's comprehensive plan future land element Transportation element housing element sanit sewer element potable water element Solid Waste element drainage element aquafer recharge element conservation element Recreation and open space element intergovernmental coordination element Capital Improvements element Aviation element property rights element under the procedures established in sections 163 3184 parentheses 2 and parentheses 4 and to comply with sections 163 and 373 of the Florida Statutes related to water supply planning requirements by amending the water supply facilities work plan and incorporating the water supply facilities work plan as an index to the poble water element providing for conflict severability and an effective date for approval second discussion uh I never got the M it was emailed when did you send it 445 is all right we're looking for a map of the future land use plan got are there any other comments one one little thing I have uh it's minor but uh in the the packet the that had the pretty pictures the city of lesburg uh we probably need to make some adjustments to uh who's are directors of yes sir we we need to correct the library director correct and we we found a couple of small things that had changed between first and second reading exactly we are aware of those yes sir okay just want to make sure that was done um questions for Dan with regard you know this has quite been quite a an adventure I appreciate staff's yeah give you the whole speed yeah if you give us up okay so um Mr Mayor members of the commission Madame city clerk Mr City attorney um as you know chapter 163 Florida Statutes requires each city and county in Florida to have a comprehensive plan with periodic updates to account for changes as needed so the Planning and Zoning staff are pleased to present the final uh city of leeburg 2045 comprehensive plan for its second reading uh the new comp plan process started two years ago in late 2022 the commission did approve the hiring of Calvin gordano and Associates um who are represented tonight by Mr Lis Cerna Alyssa is not here tonight okay but Alyssa Livingstone was also involved with that um it's a lengthy and extensive process that began at that time and it culminates in the document that you have before for you now um in May of this year staff did a presentation on the comp plan the process and on September 9 of this year uh the commission held the first reading on this document after that September 9 meeting uh the plan was transmitted to the State Department of Commerce or state Commerce Department which is the current name for the state land planning agency there was some minor minor technical comments which are standard but we got through with very few so I'm really proud of my staff um they were addressed by staff and then so what you have today is the final branded version with the cover and the table of contents and all that uh we added as we stated at the September 9 meeting so just to recap the plan was seen by the public at the shetes which many of you and planning Commissioners attended first reading of September 9 the plan was transmitted to Florida commerce uh state agencies reviewed the data and Analysis so the last remaining hurdle is to have this plan if approved tonight goes back to the state as the approved plan then we have the standard 30-day legal challenge which we have on all city ordinances so if this plan is approved tonight it will be sent to the state tomorrow I think uh candy Harper the deputy director has already has a letter ready to go for that and it will become official in either late December of this year or early early January with no more strings um I wanted to note that the goals of this comprehensive plan were to simplify the overall comp plan language to allow direct clear application of the goals objectives and policies and basically create a practical useful usable document uh which implements an overall vision for day-to-day Community Development activities staff does feel that the well I feel that the City St staff and the various departments met the challenge that we put out on this challenge of these goals in this large and rather complex document uh project manager candy Harper who's my deputy director and planner Max Van Allen are both here tonight they did a great job on this project we also want to thank all the different city departments many of whom are represented here tonight they were vital in getting this document done and working with uh Mr Cerna and Miss Livingstone and Mr Cerna is here from Calvin gordano that's the city's consultant on this project they did a great job for us so Mr Mayor Commissioners Mr city manager uh staff wants to thank you for your support in this very large and expansive Endeavor thank you sir Dan I have a couple questions yes sir what I'm looking at here is this on the future land use is this all the properties that are currently in the city the future land use map should be colored in with all the properties that are in the city yes okay this doesn't include anything out outside the city that would be within our isba correct so it does not include any of that it it should not right okay so this is just properties already currently in the city that is correct so so in the future if somebody comes in and wants to Annex in obviously it's not in the future land use map corre what do you do with that how do you make the determination if it's Annex if it's well Annex or it's not in our future land use so how do you know what zoning is be good um it it's very dependent on the situation for example what we look for in annexations generally is we're looking for something along a major Corridor that can connect to a major roadway trying to keep traffic off the smaller roadways um we are really and um um it has to be within the isba and we're not looking for things that are far out in the isba they have to be within the isba and hopefully close to a major roadway now that's the policy that's not a written law that's the policy we have used in what we have talked to people about when you look at the specific zoning or future land use you want to look at the properties around it what's the existing development because land use changes over time and that's a that's a difficult uh pill to swallow what is once perhaps um almost let's let's say Suburban development that's being overtaken by taller buildings and so forth that land use over time goes from a un undeveloped land to an excerp to a suburb to highly developed and it takes years but it does that's the that's the overall process so we're going to look at what is around the property what is coming in um is it around neighborhoods is it around industrial land is it around commercial land and can we put mixed uses in there or do we need to stay with you know one particular zoning or future land use we have found the Pud to be the most effective tool for most zonings not always but generally speaking so when we do the comprehens it's got this comp plan for what 20 years 20 years but the thing to remember about a plan is that all plans are fluid they are never they are for a point in time um depending on the situation yearby year you need to amend that plan to make to look to the Future Okay and as I said because land use has change over time you can't make a static point and everything is going to be exactly like this for 20 years this is what we use on a day to-day basis but new development example the villag is coming in that can change land usage I guess my last question is to wrap this up yes sir this is a 20year just say 20-year projection but we don't project future land uses on properties that are not currently in the city even though they're in our isba correct annexation area that's correct okay we're not going to project a land use this outside the city unless they request to come in and then we want to look at that from there okay thank you sir yes sir other questions for Dan anybody we've had some discussions of late on the consumptive use permit I mean I didn't see it in here but I assume this is kind of our ammunition to continue to work are they are they T I'm tring this is more just a learning question yeah and as you know that we we had applied to extend the consumptive use permit okay so this you know as you know contrary to the discussion but uh we with your authorization we applied for the consumptive use permit expansion from 9 MGD to about 15 MGD based on the annexations and potential development uh of the the 40,000 lots that we referenced here this evening our our latest information back from the district is the district rejected that um they they did not agree that our community was growing that fast based on other data such as single family residential certificate of occupancies being issued um and they essentially their response to us was come back and see us in 2030 is when you're when your permit expires and I can't remember the exact date Cliff would know but it's 20 2930 time frame we had a we have a few more years left on the cup um having said that I'll also say so so essentially the water district is saying growth isn't growth does not justify your withdrawal from the ground um I I believe that if we can justify that growth then we would get an expansion of the cup okay so I think this document supports that but then what we have to do is we have to see the approved subdivisions actually get developed and I and and that that is the disconnect I think between the all these discussions we have what we've approved in the private sector and the private sector then developing what it's approved and there and in leeburg there's a lag okay now you help me right there thank you the Mr May if I me the the comprehensive plan contains the water supply plan which is separate from the consumptive use permit the water supply plan is the portable water conservation intergo intergovernmental coordination and Capital Improvements element that's looking at how we're going to supply the water the cup is the permit to actually get the water thing things we're going to do to conserve and treat Mother Earth nicely thank you for that clarification I thought that I just I was trying to understand how intertwined they were interated they're interrelated so essentially we got to tell the district in our comprehensive plan that we're going to treat Mother Earth nicely yeah and if we don't say those type of things then there's no chance of getting the cup expanded thank you very much Dan I did one question this current plan is a 20-year projection yes when we did our previous you know it was that 10 12 years ago yes sir generally year you a city can do its plans in various ways uh generally they are either 20 or 30 years we chose to go to the 20-year Horizon um but the state wants you to update it every 10 years I knew there was a 10 years yes sir that's that's the catch in there is that they want you to look 20 years ahead every 10 years okay so 10 years from now we'll be we'll be back I'll be retired that's good we want that and once it comes back somebody will be here once it comes back from the state and they're all approved then we'll get copies I mean can we get the pronounce you can you can get copies now oh okay we can provide if if you approve this we're going to make we'll insert um the ordinance number and then we'll we do intend to provide a copy hard copy to each commissioner okay thank so um and I believe it's in our contract certain number of copies if it's not we will run them off so good any other questions for for that comments I guess we're at a roll call commission reesman yes commission Peterson yes commissioner Barry yes commissioner canel yes mayor bur yes all right move on to item 6b1 first reading of ordinances we have none 6 C1 non- routine items we have n none item seven informational reports there are none item eight City attorney items uh no reports this evening everyone I just hope everyone has a nice Thanksgiving and uh enjoys their time with their family and friends and I look forward to seeing you after the holiday thank you grant thank you uh city manager items yeah just on a quick note I wanted to point out to the commission that uh we had a little bit of a disconnect between our our fire assessment fee consultant and the tax collector's office and the City kind of the three of us uh this was the first year that fire assessment fees were going to be sent out to the village of West Lake and the error was that we did not the consultant did not get that notice out in the trim notices there is a cure for that uh our tax collector David Jordan is really helping us out with that um he is going to send out notice for the advertisement requirements as well as uh just Del the penalties and collection on those so those notices will get out we'll be working with the tax collector in the next couple weeks to get the justification out and uh anticipate they'll be collected as normal with the thanks to the tax collector um and as and on that note as well um we still have our scheduled payment to the Village of CDD uh so we have to make that at the end of the year so I don't you know at the end of the fiscal year there won't be a cash flow issue but a little bit of one now a little bit bit but um everything should work out and we'll field any questions we have from The Villages of West Lake or or anything that that may pop up in the interim just so I wanted to bring that to your attention um and then also as well I will be out uh Tuesday and Wednesday trying to tack on a couple extra days to the holiday uh I'll be local if you need me uh Deputy manager Hicks will serve in my stad um that's why he's not here this evening so we were we traded days um wish everybody happy holidays and uh we'll see you next roll call commiss rean a couple things I want to thank Public Works I received a couple calls this week and they were very quick to address those issues for our residents I want to say thank you to the special events department and the Rec Rec Department for the flapjack 5K and the pancake poooa that went off really well and then hope to see everyone out on the lesburg Christmas festival and parade on 127 and on that thank you to all the staff for getting us Christmas ready um I want to put out there that the electric Advisory Board is accepting applications uh hope to see you all at the ground breaking for phase one at the airport on 124 also at the lebur library the voices and votes Democracy in America it's a smithonian ex exhibition if you get by there and see that it's on the second floor it is pretty impressive and it's pretty cool to have something like that here in lesburg and lastly I would like to wish everyone a Happy Thanksgiving and we'll see you uh in December thank you Allan on the electric Advisory Board could you tell them the positions uh that are available yes I'm not sure which ones are available I had there's there's three there's three one is for the Fruitland Park no one I'll hit one is there were there's three the big commercial um commissioner Robo he's not reapplying um we'll reach out to Jesse Flynn who serves as the small business person uh so that may that that's those two are open because that is how we turned them out they now go into a four-year term um and then with u commissioner Tim Morris being elected to the bccc he resigned his position he served as the unincorporated residential customer so we if anybody who is lives in in an around lesburg but not in the city limits and not Fruitland Park um is a electric user you would qualify for that it's in that area is basically the ru house the Silver Lake Region one last thing we do have multiple positions available within the city so if you want to work for the city of leeburg we're a great City CHR so that was my that's it thank you commissioner conell nothing commissioner Barry um yes I have one please I'd like to give kudos to Chad and his staff um I received this email I'm sorry at the end of September from Bessie from Bessie Ross and she would like to let the city knows how great your employees are um his name is Chad Conlin and he has been assisting her for some time and she says each time he comes he never waivers in any way and does whatever he's expected plus and I just want to say congratulations to him and share this email with her she didn't know where to send it so I received it and also would like to wish everyone a Happy Thanksgiving and enjoy your families commissioner Peterson nothing tonight other than just have a Happy Thanksgiving and be safe mayor Bree I have nothing tonight second