>> WELCOME BACK TO THE SECOND PORTION OF OUR COMMISSION MEETING. I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. WE HAVE SCHEDULED A PUBLIC HEARING. >> MADAM CHAIR. >> COMMISSIONER MADDOX, ARE YOU HERE? >> OKAY, AWESOME. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MADDOX . WE HAVE SCHEDULED AT 6:00, A PUBLIC HEARING. I WILL TURN IT OVER NOW TO OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. ITEM NUMBER 31 IS YOUR PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER THE NINTH AMENDMENT OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMPACT. COMMISSIONERS, OUR RECOMMENDATION IS THAT YOU CONDUCT THIS PUBLIC HEARING. WE HAVE SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM. HAPPY THAT ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. >> ARE THERE ANY SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? NO SPEAKERS. COMMISSIONERS? >> I WOULD LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION. IS THERE DISCUSSION AFTER THE MOTION? >> I WILL TAKE A MOTION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. DISCUSSION FROM COMMISSIONERS? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, LET IT BE KNOWN BY SAYING THREE. COMMISSIONER MADDOX? >> AYE . >> THANK YOU. ANYTHING FURTHER? >> NOT ON THAT ITEM. >> THANK YOU. WE ARE BACK TO OUR GENERAL SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM. I TURN IT OVER TO YOU. >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. BEFORE I HAND IT BACK TO YOU TO FACILITATE THE BOARD, I KNOW YOU HEARD FROM A NUMBER OF SPEAKERS BEFORE THE BREAK. I JUST WANTED TO. WE'VE GOT. THIS IS ALL HIS FAULT BUT HE CAN ANY ANSWERS TO ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE ABOUT ANY OF THIS. LET ME JUST SAY, COMMISSIONERS, TOO, TO WALK YOU THROUGH IT AND SIMPLIFY IT. THIS IS AN OBVIOUSLY VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE. IN SIMPLE MATH, THOUGH, REALLY -- I WILL HIT A COUPLE THINGS. HOW WE HAVE AT LEAST FOUGHT THROUGH THE VARIOUS ELEMENTS. THE MOST IMPORTANT THING I SHOULD SAY TO YOU IS THIS IS SIMPLY AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE. TO GIVE US WHATEVER DIRECTION YOU WOULD LIKE AND WE WILL BE HAPPY TO ACCEPT IT. THE OPPORTUNITY YOU HAVE IS ONE THAT STARTS WITH -- STARTED PRIOR TO THE CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL TO GOING ON THE BALLOT IN 2020. CREATE $9 MILLION. NEW MONEY. MONEY THAT WAS NOT HERE BEFORE. PRIOR TO THE ISSUE THAT THE BOARD HAD TO PLACE IF YOU WANT VALID. THERE WAS LOTS OF CONVERSATION LEADING UP TO THAT. THROUGHOUT WHICH CASE IT WAS VERY WELL UNDERSTOOD THAT THIS CREATED AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE BOARD, EVEN THOUGH IT IS NOT A LOT OF MONEY, TO REALIGN DOLLARS IN SERVICES CSC OVER A PERIOD OF TIME. THE BOARD PASSED A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND THE CSC AND THE CITY TO WORK TOGETHER OVER A PERIOD OF TIME TO ESCORT ALONG THOSE LINES. THIS PROPOSAL ALIGNS WITH OTHER PRIORITIES OF THE BOARD. IT HAS BEEN MENTIONED. THE HOMELESSNESS ISSUE HAS BEEN MENTIONED, OF COURSE. THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY WITH A RELATIVELY SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY. THE AMOUNT AVAILABLE ALLOWS YOU TO ADDRESS OVER THE COURSE OF TWO YEARS, PRESSING ISSUES LIKE HOMELESSNESS. NO LONGER BENEFITING FROM THE INFUSION OF FEDERAL DOLLARS THAT WE RECEIVED TO ADDRESS OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS. AND AGAIN, IT IS SIMPLY AN OPPORTUNITY . WE HAVE TRIED TO ON YOUR MOST RECENT DIRECTION, THE COURT DATE AND INDICATE WITH AGENCIES TO DEAL WITH ANY TRANSITION ISSUES WE MAY HAVE. WITH THE PROCESS A VERY LONG TIME AND HAVE MADE A LOT OF OVER THE YEARS THE PROCESS. ALL WITH THE IN AND OF LEVERAGING HUMAN VERSUS DOLLARS, OF WHICH WE DO NOT HAVE DEDICATED REVENUES. WITH THAT IN MIND, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU IF YOU CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE TRANSITION WE HAVE OPPOSED. >> GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS. FIRST OFF, I WANT TO SAY I AM VERY APPRECIATIVE OF ALL THE HARD WORK THAT OUR AGENCIES DO AS WELL AS OUR HUMAN SERVICE PROVIDERS PROVIDE. THEY HAVE PROVIDED GREAT INPUT AND FEEDBACK. NINE TIMES OVER THE LAST COUPLE MONTHS TO TALK ABOUT THE ALIGNMENT AND TALK THROUGH A TRANSITION PLAN. TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION OH ALL THE CONCERNS, ALL THE FEEDBACK AND INPUT AND BRINGING TO YOU WHAT WE BROUGHT TONIGHT AS WHAT YOU REQUESTED. THE BOARD ASKED THAT IN LOOKING WITH THE REALIGNMENT, WE DO IT IN CONCERT WITH OUR HUMAN SERVICE PROVIDERS. THAT IS THE STEPS WE TOOK. I THINK IT WAS VERY IN LIGHT FULL AND CRITICAL THAT WE DID THAT. THAT IS WHY ONE OF THE KEY THINGS THAT WE DO AS PART OF THE TRANSITION PLAN IS BUT WE ASSURE THERE IS A SAFETY NET. CAN APPLY FOR FUNDING FOR CHSP. THAT IS THE MOST CRITICAL IN DEVELOPING AND LOOKING AT YOUR TRANSITION PLAN TO MAKE SURE THAT AGENCIES THAT WOULD NOT BE ELIGIBLE FOR CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL FUNDING STILL WOULD BE ABLE TO APPLY FOR FUNDING THROUGH CHSP. THOSE THAT ARE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR CSC DOLLARS WOULD APPLY AND DURING THIS UPCOMING YEAR, WE WOULD WORK WITH THEM IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY, THE UNITED PARTNERS TO PREPARE THEM, PROVIDE THEM TECHNICAL SUPPORT AND OPPORTUNITIES THAT MAY COME UP FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO APPLY FOR FUNDING IN THE FOLLOWING YEAR. THE SECOND YEAR OF THE FUNDING CYCLE. THE GOAL WAS TO ENSURE THAT THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY SO THERE WAS NO HARM IN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO APPLY. IT IS A COMPETITIVE PROCESS. STILL REMAINS A COMPETITIVE PROCESS. AGENCIES MUST APPLY TO. FUNDING IS NOT GUARANTEED. SAME THING WITH THE CSC. THE FUNDING IS NOT GUARANTEED. THE OTHER THING WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DID WITH THE TIMELINE WAS IN ALIGNING WITH THE CSC IS THAT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WHEN WE DO OPEN THE PORTAL FOR APPLICATIONS, WHEN WORKING WITH THE CSC, WHAT THE CRITERIA WOULD BE FOR OPPORTUNITIES FOR FUNDING IN EARLY LEARNING. THAT IS THE PATH THAT THEY ARE HEADED FOR THE NEXT FUNDING OPPORTUNITY COMING UP IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. IF THOSE CRITERIA'S WERE EITHER VERY STRINGENT, THAT AGENCIES CANNOT APPLY FOR OR THAT THEY WERE NOT PUTTING ENOUGH DOLLARS INTO DOING THAT OPPORTUNITY, AGENCIES COULD STILL COME THROUGH CHSP AND APPLY. THAT IS WHY WE WANTED TO ALIGN THAT EVERYTHING WE HAVE DONE, COMMISSIONERS, HAS BEEN CONSISTENT WITH STRATEGIC INITIATIVES AND WORKING WITH COUNSEL. WORKING WITH THE CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL, AND TRYING TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE MOST PRESSING ISSUES THAT WE KNOW IS COMING DOWN AND YOU KNOW THOSE LIMITED RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW WILL REQUIRE US TO BE VERY METHODICAL IN HOW WE INVEST THOSE LIMITED RESOURCES. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> I HAVE A QUESTION. DOING THAT TWO YEAR CYCLE THAT YOU ALL ARE PROPOSING, A TRANSITIONAL PERIOD. WHAT HAPPENED TO ENTITIES AFTER THE TWO YEAR TRANSITIONAL PERIOD. THAT IS NOT RECEIVED ANY FUNDING FROM THE CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL? >> AGENCIES THAT CANNOT APPLY FOR -- NEW TWO YEAR FUNDING CYCLE SHOULD REGARDING THE CATEGORIES OF HOW WE WOULD ESTABLISH THE CATEGORIES FOR THE FOLLOWING TWO YEAR FUNDING CYCLE. THIS UP COMING TWO YEAR FUNDING CYCLE, AN OPPORTUNITY IN WHICH AGENCIES THAT ARE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL FUNDING CAN APPLY. THROUGH CHSP. DOES THE HAPPY ELIGIBILITY, WHICH RIGHT NOW, THE CATEGORIES WOULD APPLY TO THE CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL. IF THEY ARE NOT ELIGIBLE TO APPLY, THEY CAN APPLY THROUGH CHSP. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY. DURING THE TWO YEAR TRANSITIONAL PERIOD, THEY CAN COME BACK. MY QUESTION IS WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THE TWO YEAR TRANSITIONAL PERIOD? >> AFTER THE TRANSITIONAL PERIOD, THEY CAN APPLY THROUGH THE COUNCIL FOR FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES. >> IF THEY DON'T QUALIFY, WHAT HAPPENS? >> IF THEY ARE NOT ELIGIBLE AND DON'T QUALIFY -- IF THEY DON'T QUALIFY IT'S BECAUSE THEY'VE GONE THROUGH THE FUNDING PROCESS THROUGH CSC. WILL THERE BE A FUNDING OPPORTUNITY? IF THERE IS A FUNDING OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO APPLY, THEY CAN APPLY THROUGH CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL. IF THERE IS NOT AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO APPLY THROUGH, THEN THEY CAN APPLY THROUGH CHSP. >> AFTER THAT TWO YEAR TRANSITIONAL PERIOD, IT CONTINUES. BUT IS IT DO THAT THEY CAN CONTINUE TO APPLY? IF THEY ARE NOT ACCEPTABLE TO THE CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL? >> THE CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL, ONE FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES COME AVAILABLE, WE WOULD CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THOSE AGENCIES SO THAT WAY THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO APPLY THROUGH THE CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL. IF THERE IS NOT AN OPPORTUNITY, THERE IS STILL OTHER CATEGORIES THAT IS WITHIN CHSP THAT MAY BE ABLE TO APPLY TO FOR FUNDING. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS? >> COMMISSIONER WELCH? >> THANK YOU. I NEED SOME CLARITY ON THAT TOO. I THINK WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO SAY IS IF THEY UNDERSTAND YOU'RE TRYING TO BUILD A LANDING PAD OR THE FOLKS WHOSE FUNDING IS AT RISK. I THINK WITH THE CHAIR, SUGGESTING WHAT HAPPENS IF THEY DON'T GET FUNDING FROM CHSP OR CSP 26, WHENEVER THIS TRANSITION PERIOD ENDS. THE QUESTION IS WHAT HAPPENS IF THEY WERE TO NOT GET FUNDING? THEN YOU ARE SAYING THEY'D COME BACK. TRY TO FIT THEM IN A CATEGORY THAT THEY HAVE LEFT? >> THROUGH CHSP, THEY CAN IDENTIFY OPPORTUNITIES THAT THEY CAN APPLY TO THE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES THAT WOULD EXIST. COMMISSIONERS, AS A RECOMMENDATION, IF THAT SOMETHING WERE SEEING, WE ARE CREATING CATEGORIES AND FUNDING WOULD BE AVAILABLE WHERE THEY COULD APPLY FOR THOSE FUNDING THROUGH THE CATEGORY. >> I DO SEE WE ARE IN THAT CATEGORY. THAT IS KIND OF LIKE A SAFETY NET IF THE AGENCIES CANNOT SECURE CSC FUNDING. >> IF THEY ARE NOT ELIGIBLE TO APPLY, IF THERE IS NOT A FUNDING OPPORTUNITY THAT EXISTS. >> GOT YOU. BY THE NEXT CHSP TWO YEAR CYCLE. >> WE ARE BASICALLY AT THE BIDDING OF IT DO YOU YEAR CYCLE NUMBER RIGHT? IF YOU CANNOT GET FUNDING IN SOMETIME IN THIS NEXT CYCLE, THE SUPPLEMENT OR REPLACE THE FUNDING THAT WE ARE POTENTIALLY REMOVING. YOU CAN COME BACK TO CHSP UNDER THE. >> DO YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO APPLY TO COUNSEL? IF THERE'S NOT OPPORTUNITIES THAT APPLY FOR CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL, THERE WOULD BE OPPORTUNITY THROUGH CHSP. IT IS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER AS PART OF THAT PROCESS, WE WOULD BE WORKING WITH THOSE AGENCIES TO ENSURE THAT THEY CAN APPLY. WHEN THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL. >> WRIGHT, WE WILL WALK YOU THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND THEY ARE GOING I DO NOT KNOW. WE ARE WALKING OUT IN THE SIMPLE TRAFFIC. I THINK THAT MIGHT BE WHERE THERE IS SOME CONCERN. AND I TRUST YOU WHAT WERE TRYING TO DO HERE. AS THE PREVIOUS ITEM WE DISCUSSED EARLIER, EVERYBODY IS WELL-INTENTIONED. YOU GUYS HAVE DONE A JOB WORKING WITH USEFUL. THESE FOLKS. AM I CHARACTERIZING THIS RIGHT? AM I WRONG? >> YOU MAY BE ABLE TO SIGNIFY IT. THESE AGENCIES WILL HAVE TO TRANSITION TO THE CSC PROCESS TO RECEIVE FUNDING IF THEY ARE ELIGIBLE FOR THE CSC FUNDING. IT IS THE WAY THAT YOU CREATE DOLLARS IN THIS PROCESS TO, THEN, DO OTHER THINGS IF YOU DECIDE TO DO IT. THAT IS WHERE YOUR STRAIGHTFORWARD. DO I THINK THE AGENCIES -- HAVE A SCENE THE AGENCIES TRANSITION TO CHANGES LIKE AS IN THE PAST AND BE ABLE TO ADAPT. ASSIST WITH THE MONEY. IF YOU ARE NOT ELIGIBLE, IT MAY BE BEST TO SAY WHAT IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING. NEXT YEAR, THE CSC HAS SAID WERE GOING TO FUND SUMMER YOUTH AND EARLY LEARNING. WE SAY GREAT MAMA UNDER THIS PROPOSAL SO WE WILL NOT FUND THOSE PROGRAMS. WE WILL ELIMINATE THOSE CATEGORIES. JUST THOSE TWO. FOR THAT, YOU HAVE TO APPLY. WERE GOING TO MAKE YOU APPLY FOR THAT OVER THERE AND IF YOU DON'T GET FUNDED, IF YOU ARE NOT ELIGIBLE, WERE GOING TO GIVE YOU A YEAR TO COME BACK. IF THINGS DIDN'T WORK OUT, YOU'RE STILL GOING TO BE ABLE TO APPLY FOR FUNDING. AND IN THAT YEAR, WERE GOING TO TRY TO WORK TO GET YOU ELIGIBLE. WHATEVER HURDLES YOU ARE HAVING TROUBLE MEETING, IT'S IN OUR COLLECTIVE INTEREST THAT YOU COULD ELIGIBLE FOR THAT PROCESS. WE WILL WORK WITH YOU OVER THAT PERIOD OF TIME. BUT AFTER THAT TIME, TO ADDRESS YOUR QUESTION SPECIFICALLY, THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR THE CHSP IN THOSE CATEGORIES. AND THEN THE NEXT YEAR, WE WOULD FURTHER ELIMINATE. JUST AN OPTION FOR THE BOARD -- WE WOULD ELIMINATE FURTHER CATEGORIES THAT THE CSC INTENDS TO FUND. TO ELIMINATE DUPLICATION AND TO ELIMINATE POTENTIAL PROBLEMS THAT THE CSC COULD GET INTO BECAUSE THERE'S STATUTORY OBLIGATIONS. NOT CREATING DUPLICATE IF FUNDING CYCLES. WE ARE DOING IT IN COORDINATION ADDRESSING OPPOSITIONS. WILL THAT TIMECLOCK RUN OUT IF YOU GO OVER THIS TIME AT WHICH UNDER THIS SUPPOSEDLY WOULD HAVE TO A MUST THEY ARE ELIGIBLE FOR ANOTHER FUNDING CATEGORY THAT IS AVAILABLE WITHIN THE CHSP PROCESS. MUCH OF THE SERVICES WILL TRANSITION OVER THAT PERIOD OF TIME TO THE CSC. >> THAT MAKES IT CRYSTAL CLEAR, RIGHT? THANK YOU. >> MISSIONERS COMMISSIONER, OKAY. >> ALL KNOCK OUT THE EASY ONE FIRST. THE BUDGET IMPACT, I WANT TO CONFIRM I HAVE THIS RIGHT. THE BUDGET IMPACT IS FREEING UP THE FISCAL YEAR WERE ABOUT THE STAR IN FREEING UP $116,000 IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR AFTER THAT? >> CORRECT. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> OF COUNTY DOLLARS. >> COUNTY DOLLARS, YEAH. OKAY. IF IT SEEMS LIKE WE ARE BEATING A DEAD HORSE, IT'S BECAUSE IT'S AN IMPORTANT HORSE. NO OFFENSE TO THE TRAIL RIDERS. WERE TALKING ABOUT TRANSITION BUT I'M GOING TO DO LIKE WERE DOING AND A CARDIO. I WANT TO SEE AND WRITINGS, STEP-BY-STEP. THE PLAN LAID OUT IN THIS ITEM IS THAT IN EARLY MARCH, WE EXPECT THE CSC TO ISSUE REQUIREMENTS FOR PEOPLE TO APPLY, FOR AGENCIES TO APPLY. >> WE EXPECT THE BOARD TO ESTABLISH WHAT THE CRITERIA WILL BE FOR EARLY LEARNING FUNDING. >> COOL. AND THE PEOPLE WHO GET CHSP WHO ARE AT RISK OF FALLING OFF WILL GET TO LOOK AT THOSE RULES AND SAY OH, IT LOOKS LIKE I FIT AND I CAN APPLY. I WILL APPLY. OR NO I DON'T FIT AND THEREFORE, THE COUNTY IS GOING TO LET ME APPLY FOR ANOTHER CYCLE OF CHSP FUNDING BY THE END OF MARCH. >> WE WILL LOOK AT THAT TO DETERMINE WORKING WITH THE CSC, WHETHER OR NOT THEY ARE ELIGIBLE FOR THAT PROCESS. TO DETERMINE THEY ARE ELIGIBLE FOR THAT PROCESS, THEY HAVE TO GO TO APPLY CSC. >> AND THEN THEY APPLY AND THE CSC DECIDE ON A VERY COMPETITIVE BASIS WHO DOES AND DOES NOT GET AWARDS. LET'S SAY SOME OF THESE FOLKS DO NOT END UP GETTING AN AWARD BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT IN THAT CASE. WHEN DO THEY COME BACK TO THE COUNTY TO SAY OH, I DIDN'T GET THAT FUNDING AND WHEN CAN THEY GET FUNDING BACK TO THE REST OF THE CYCLE? >> THEY DO NOT COME BACK. >> OKAY. I WANT TO BE CLEAR TO EVERYBODY. IF YOU APPLY AND DON'T GET THROUGH, WE WILL HELP YOU. WERE SAYING IF YOU CAN'T APPLY, GOOD LUCK AND WE HOPE YOU GET IT. IF YOU CAN'T APPLY FROM THE START, WE WILL HELP YOU. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> AGAIN, JUST LIKE , HAS A COMPETITIVE PROCESS. FUNDING IS NOT GUARANTEED THROUGH CHSP OR THE COUNCIL PROCESS. >> THANK YOU. OTHER COMMISSIONERS? COMMISSIONER PROCTOR? >> I AM TRULY IMPRESSED WITH OUR COUNTY STAFF. I REALLY AM. WE HAVE THE MOST OUTSTANDING COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR ON PLANET EARTH. YOU HAVE TO FEEL GOOD . SINCE MY CONVERSATION, PROVIDERS AND LEADERS IN SOME CROWDED WITH A VERY CLEAR VISION OF EFFICIENCIES THAT THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR SAID WOULD WORK. I APPRECIATE YOU WORKING WITH ME THROUGH THE CHALLENGES OF. I LIKE THAT. I APPRECIATE YOU SPENDING TIME TO HELP. I KNOW THAT WERE TRYING TO REACH THESE MODELS OF EFFICIENCY AND ONE OF THE THINGS OVER TIME, IS THAT OUR COUNTY WILL CENTRALIZE OUR STREAMLINED OF THINGS SUCH AS THE POINTS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER. ONE SUCH OCCASION WAS TO ALLOW THE PEOPLE FROM THE GREEN LAKE TO MAINTAIN A DEMOCRATIC PROCESS THAT THEY COULD LET THE LEADERSHIP WITH STREAMLINED PROCUREMENT CATEGORIES LIKE MW. WE DONE ANYTHING BUT MERGE WITH THE CITY. I BELIEVE THAT MODELS OF EFFICIENCY, BUSINESS MODELS THAT WORK WELL IN PERFECT. NO ONE WANTS TO ARGUE AGAINST THESE MODELS OF BUSINESS EFFICIENCY. THAT IS WHAT WE DO. PERFECT MODELS. THE CULTURAL COMPETENCIES CANNOT BE MODELED. THAT DON'T FIT IN A MODEL. WHAT IT TAKES TO REACH THE NET NEGLECTED, REJECTED, NEGLECTED. ALL OF THAT. AND WHAT WE'VE HEARD FROM TONIGHT IS AS TALENTED. A GALAXY OF SUPERSTARS WHO DO HUMAN SERVICES IN THESE COMMUNITIES. THERE IS NO FINER COLLECTIVE OF EXQUISITE PROVIDERS THEN WE'VE HEARD FROM. DAVE SAID SLOW DOWN. I'M WILLING TO LISTEN TO THEM. I'M WILLING TO LISTEN TO THEM OVER THE CREDENTIAL , THE AWARDS AND CERTIFICATES OF MY OWN STAFF BECAUSE ALL THE YEARS, SOCIAL AGENCIES HAVE BEEN MADE TODUKE IT OUT. AN EXTREMELY COMPETITIVE PROCESS. THERE IS NOTHING COMPETITIVE FOR WALT McNEIL TO COME IN HERE AND SAY I NEED $5 MILLION. WE BARELY SCRATCH ON A SHEET OF PAPER OR ASK WHY. BUT OVER THE YEARS, WE HAVE DRAGGED SOCIAL AGENCIES BY THEIR ANKLES. MANY 6-98 REVOLVED THROUGH THERE. EVEN AN APPLICATION FOR THE CHSP, THEY WERE AGENCIES THAT WERE VERY EFFICIENT IN THE FIELD BUT INEFFICIENT IN THE PAPERWORK. THEY FELL OFF THE WAGON BECAUSE SOME DIDN'T HAVE COMPUTERS, SOME DIDN'T KNOW WHAT A SPREADSHEET WAS. BUT ONE-ON-ONE IN THE CRISIS OF HUMAN ENGAGEMENT IS VERY GOOD. WHAT IS THIS? THE OTHER COMPONENT WHICH I AM LISTENING TO TONIGHT IS THAT CHSP IS ABOUT 25 YEARS OLD. LIFE OF ITS OWN OF 25 YEARS OLD, WE ARE SEEKING TO TRANSFER TO AN AGENCY WHICH IS ABOUT TWO YEARS OLD. AND IN THAT TWO YEAR PERIOD, THEIR GROUNDING, THEIR MISSION, THEIR VISION, THESE THINGS ARE BEING CRYSTALLIZED AS WELL AS THEIR PROCESS. THIS IS A LOT OF ADDITIONAL WEIGHT. WAS EVEN FIT UNDER THE STATUTORY GUIDELINES WHICH THEY CAN ASSUME THIS WORK. NOT ONLY IS THE CSC YOUNG, YOUTHFUL AND FINDING ITS OWN . BUT TO DUMP A 25-YEAR-OLD AGENCY WITH ALL OF THE SUITCASES IN BAGGAGE IS, THE PEOPLE, HOW THEY TALK, HAVE A COME AT YOU. THE NUANCES OF WHAT THEY ARE REALLY SAYING. THEY KNOW THIS. CSC DOES NOT. IF YOU ASK AND SAID TO ME CAN WE REPLACE THE CSC UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF THE CHSP, I WILL SAY THEY ARE SEASONED, EXPERIENCED. THEY COULD DEFINITELY ASSUME LEADERSHIP. YOU ARE ASKING TONIGHT THAT WE PONDER CAN A TWO-YEAR-OLD ORGANIZATION RESPECT THE RESPONSIBILITIES IF OVERTIME, THEIR OWN TRIBUTARIES AND MEANDERING PATHWAYS HISTORY THAT IS NOT EASILY GIVEN TO CSC. NOT COMFORTABLE PLACING THAT WEIGHT ON THEM. IS MADAM CHAIR, YOU ARE MORE AWARE THAT THIS SUMMER, WHEN THE OPPORTUNITY WAS THERE FOR THE BOARD OF THE CSC TO ACCEPT 13% INCREASES AS OPPOSED TO RECEIVING NEW MONEY AND PROGRAMS FOR THE CHILDREN OF OUR COMMUNITY. THE CSC BOARD SAID HOLED UP , WE ARE NOT THERE. WE WILL HOLD UP WHERE WE ARE. AND THEY DID. THE CITY DID NOT ROLLBACK. THE COUNTY DID NOT ROLLBACK. THE COUNTY IS 200 AS WELL. THE SCHOOL BOARD. CSC ROLLED BACK AND REFUSED NEW MONIES TO HELP POOR CHILDREN. THOSE ARE THE FACTS. IT IS A PRECEDENT. SIX MONTHS LATER, I AM TO BE PERSUADED THAT MONEY DID NOT MAX OUT ON THEIR PAST CITIES BUT THEY REFUSED IT. WHY WOULD THEY WANT NEW MONEY NOW? EVEN SOME OF IT IS NOT SYNCHRONIZED WITH ACTIVITIES AND FUNCTIONS. BUT IN SIX MONTHS TIME, A NEW CHARGE, A NEW DESIRE TO RECEIVE MONEY. THEY DID NOT RECEIVE WHAT THEY COULD RECEIVE. I CANNOT RECONCILE THAT. TONIGHT, I AM PERSUADED BY THE NAMES YOU'VE HEARD OVER THE YEARS. IT IS NOT JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE GOOD FIGHTERS. IT'S THAT THEY ARE GOOD WRITERS. THEIR HEARTS HAVE BEEN ON THE LINE. THERE COMMITMENT IN THE TRENCHES OF BEEN THERE. EVERYBODY WHO HAS COME UP HERE TONIGHT TO SPEAK IN THE INTEREST OF HUMAN SERVICES, IF YOU COULD GIVE HIM A MILITARY RANKING, WOULD BE A GENERAL. SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IS NOT HARMFUL. WE ARE NOT JUST MOVING TO MOVE. WE ARE DEALING WITH THE MOST SENSITIVE ELEMENT OF OUR COMMUNITY. POOR PEOPLE. HOMELESS PEOPLE. I COUNTED 50 CHILDREN. 50 BLUE SHIRTS IN HERE SAID I COULD BE AFFECTED. WHY? BECAUSE THEY WERE NAMES THAT WOULD SLIP THROUGH THE CRACKS. THEY WOULD NOT COME IMMEDIATELY FOR SECURE PROTECTED OF MONEY. I PLEAD. I CANNOT LOOK AT THOSE KIDS AND ROLL DICE. I'M NOT GOING TO ROLL THE DICE ON WHAT IS POSSIBLE. YOU JUST DON'T GAMBLE THAT. MAYBE, COMMISSIONERS, IF THE SHERIFF COULD GET ANY KIND OF MONEY, ANYTHING HE WANTED. HUMAN SERVICES DO NOT GET THAT OPPORTUNITY. HUMAN SERVICES JUST DO NOT GET IT. THEY DO HAVE TO FIGHT. IT IS COMPETITIVE. I APPRECIATE ALAN BECAUSE I SAID WE DO NOT SPEND AT LEAST 1% OF OUR TOTAL BUDGET ON HUMAN SERVICES. ALAN ROSENBERG INDICATED THAT WE SEND SPEND EIGHT PERCENTAGE GREATER THAN 1%. I APPRECIATE BEING CORRECTED IN THAT REGARD. I AM HOPEFUL THAT TONIGHT, WE CAN FIND A REASON TO PAUSE AND I AM NOT INTERESTED IN MODELING BUSINESS EFFICIENCY OVER WHAT I KNOW IS CULTURAL COMPETENCY. RIGHT NOW, FOOD PRICES ARE UP, GAS IS FLUCTUATING . HOMELESSNESS IS HAPPENING FOR A REASON. CHILDREN ARE MISSING. THIS IS NOT THE MOMENT TO GAMBLE. IN THE WE HAD THE CHSP PROCESS AND IN THE SHORT OF MEMORY, IT'LL TAKE YOU BACK AS FAR BACK BUT YOU HAD TO QUALIFY. IF YOU DID NOT QUALIFY, YOU HAD TO SEND BY SOME ST TO APPLY TO BE CONSIDERED. BEFORE THEN, EVERYBODY CAME IN THIS ROOM, BROKE THEM UP SOME MONEY AND TRIED TO GIVE EVERYBODY SOME. USUALLY, EVERYBODY GOT SOME WHETHER WE BECAME BEFORE THE COUNTY COMMISSION. WE WENT TO THE CHSP WITH THE CITY AND IT HAS NOT GOTTEN. THE CHSP HAS TWO FIVE FOR EVERY DOLLAR AND WE WANT TO PLACE THOSE PEOPLE UNDER THE CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL WHICH TURNS DOWN DOLLARS. I CANNOT RECONCILE IT. I LOVE EVERYBODY IN THE RESPECTIVE PLACES OF WHAT THEY DO BUT RIGHT NOW, MEASURING THE ENTITIES, THE PROCESSES THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE AND WHAT TO. AND AUTOMATION ON A UNIT. YOU WANT THIS TO BE ORGANIC. THIS IS NOT AN ORGANIC PAIRING IN MY EYES. I'M ASKING, MADAM CHAIR, WE TIME OUT, PULL THE CORD, MAINTAIN STATUS QUO FOR NOW. THE ASK OF THE COMMUNITY IS ADDITIONAL STUDY. ADDITIONAL REVIEW. THE COMPETENCIES OF WHO IS ASKING. IF THEY DID NOT HAVE THE TRACK RECORD AND YEARS OF SERVICE. ALL-STARS WOULD NOT PAY HIM MIND. WE CAN ILL AFFORD TO IGNORE THE PLEAS OF THESE VETERANS OF HUMAN SERVICES. THE WARS FOR PEOPLE'S LIVES. I'M ASKING TONIGHT TO LISTEN TO THIS ELEMENT. THAT IS NOT TO SAY THAT WE ARE NOT PERFECT. WE ARE VERY PERFECT EXCEPT FOR ONE NOT. OTHERWISE QUITE PERFECT. WITH COMMOTION THAT WE WOULD PAUSE THIS AND ALLOW FOR CONTINUAL DIALOGUE DELIBERATION AND SHARPENING OF PENCILS TO GET A PROCESS. I ALSO CONFESS THIS RIGHT HERE. I HONESTLY THOUGHT THAT WE WERE ALL GOING TO SING AND WE WERE ON THE SAME PAGE OF MUSIC. WITH WHAT I HAVE HEARD TONIGHT FROM THE COMMUNITY, I AM WILLING TO TAKE A SECOND LOOK AND SLOW THE TERRAIN DOWN. >> THANK YOU. IS THERE A SECOND? THANK YOU. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE . >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. THE THING I THINK WE OUGHT TO KEEP IN MIND IS THAT, ONE, I AM SORRY THAT WE HAVE ALLOWED A RUSHED DECISION TO CONTINUE TO COME IN SUCH A WAY THAT MOST OF OUR COMMUNITY SERVICE PROVIDERS HAVE SPENT ALL DAY TODAY PROVIDING SERVICES FOR THE NEEDIEST IN OUR IMMUNITY ENOUGH TO DO IT AGAIN TOMORROW WITH LIMITED RESOURCES -- NEED TO SPEND THEIR EVENING ADVOCATING TO CONTINUE WHAT WE'VE EXISTING DONE. I ESPECIALLY FEEL BAD THAT WE MADE IT SUCH BUT I'M SURE THOSE KIDS LOVED COMING HERE BUT I AM ALSO SURE THAT THEY WOULD HAVE BETTER THINGS TO DO IF WE DIDN'T PUT ALL THE ORGANIZATIONS IN THE SITUATION OVER NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET OVER $23,000. KEEP THAT IN MIND. KEEP THAT NUMBER IN MIND. WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT 400 UNTIL TWO YEARS FROM NOW. I APPRECIATE WE NEED TO DO NO HARM. WHAT WE ARE ASKING THEM IS TO COMPLETELY CHANGE WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO APPLY FOR WITH KEY FUNDING THAT THEY NOT ONLY GET FROM US BUT WE HEARD GETS TRIPLE MATCH FROM THE FEDS. IN A FEW WEEKS, THEY WOULD GET THE NEW RULES 60 DAYS FROM NOW WHEN THEY HAVE A FEW WEEKS TO CHANGE WITH THEIR APPLICATIONS IS. THAT MAY SOUND LIKE PLENTY OF TIME BUT IN THE NONPROFIT GRANT WORLD, THIS IS WHATEVER THIS IS. THE SNAP OF THE FINGER. NOT ENOUGH TIME. OVER $23,000. AND I DON'T THINK WE ARE GOING THE DIRECTION OF MAKING ORGANIZATIONS FIGHT EACH OTHER FOR IF IT IS NOT HOMELESS, NOT HERE. THE OTHER THING IS -- WHAT I HAVE HEARD IS WE JEOPARDIZE. THEORETICALLY, PEOPLE WILL GET THEIR FUNDING BACK. WITH THEIR DOORS STAY OPEN UNTIL THEN. WE HAVE MADE SOME PROGRESS. WHY WOULD WE JEOPARDIZE THE PROGRESS WE'VE MADE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND RUSH IT OVER $23,000? THE REASON I KEEP HARPING ON THAT IS THAT I LIKE THE MOTION. WHAT I WOULD'VE ARGUED FOR IS SOME SPECIFICITY IN THE SENSE OF IT WERE GOING TO SHUT IT DOWN, SHUT IT DOWN. PERSONALLY, IF WE KEEP DEFERRING, WE HAD MORE UNCERTAINTY. WHAT I WANT US TO THINK ABOUT ARE THE CATEGORIES WE ARE TALKING ABOUT CUTTING OUT ALLOWED TO HAVE A ONE YEAR CHP CYCLE. NORMAL RULES, NO CHANGES . AND INSTEAD OF TWO YEARS FOR THOSE CATEGORIES, IT IS ONE YEAR WHICH IS ONLY IMPACTING US BY $23,000. >> ANY CHANGES THAT WE WANT TO MAKE TO THE PROCESS BE BROUGHT TO THE BOARD BY SEPTEMBER SO WE CAN GIVE CERTAINTY ON CHANGES SIX MONTHS AHEAD OF WHEN CHANGES NEED TO BE MADE. I KNOW IT'S VERY SPECIFIC. MY GOAL IS TO FIND A COMPROMISE THAT GETS WHERE WE NEED TO GO WITHOUT RISKING SERVICES THIS YEAR OVER A RELATIVELY SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY AND ALLOWS US TO GET WHERE WE ARE GOING. I WANT TO LISTEN TO THE COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS AND SEE WHERE WE END UP INTENDING ANYTHING. THE KEYS I WOULD LIKE TO ARGUE IS GIVE CATEGORIES ONE YEAR AS IS. SET ANY CHANGES FOR THE FUTURE TO BE DONE BY FAULT FOR NEXT YEAR. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE . COMMISSIONER MADDOX ? >> MADAM CHAIR, MADAM ATTORNEY, DO I HAVE A CONFLICT? >> OH, I'M SORRY. >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. >> YOU PREVIOUSLY -- WHEN THIS AGENDA ITEM CAME UP, WERE ACCUSED FOR THE APPEARANCE OF A CONFLICT GIVING YOUR EMPLOYMENT. >> YES, MA'AM. SAY NO MORE. I REFUSE MYSELF GIVEN MY EMPLOYMENT WITH . THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MADDOX. LET ME WEIGH IN ON THIS ISSUE, RECOGNIZING THAT I AM ALSO ON THE BOARD OF THE CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL. FIRST OF ALL, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO THINK ALL OF THE DIRECTORS OF AGENCIES AND REPRESENTATIVES OF THE VARIOUS ENTITIES THAT PROVIDE SERVICES TO OUR CHILDREN AND FAMILIES. THE SERVICES THAT YOU HAVE ALL PROVIDED OVER THE YEARS OUR INVALUABLE AND I DO NOT WANT TO SEE ANY LAPSE IN THOSE SERVICES. WHO WILL ULTIMATELY SUFFER WILL BE OUR CHILDREN AND OUR FAMILIES. I APPRECIATE YOU ALL COMING, SPEAKING TO THE COMMISSION TODAY. I APPRECIATE THE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE CITY AND THE CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL. ALL THE WORK THAT YOU HAVE ALL DONE TO THIS POINT. I THINK EVEN GIVEN THAT WITH ALL THE WORK AND ANALYSIS THAT HAS BEEN DONE, THERE IS A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY. THAT UNCERTAINTY GOES ACROSS SERVICE PROVIDER LINES. I THINK IT WOULD IMPACT OUR CHILDREN. I APPRECIATE THE SERVICE PROVIDERS THAT MET WITH US IN PERSON AND VIRTUALLY TO DISCUSS THE IMPACT THAT CHANGING IN THE FUNDING WOULD HAVE ON THE PROGRAMS AND THAT IMPACT WOULD HAVE A RIPPLE EFFECT TO THE POINT WHERE ONE AGENCY DIRECTOR TOLD ME IF WE LOSE FUNDING, WE LOSE POSITIONS. IF WE LOSE PHYSICIANS, WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO SERVICE FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN. THE PARENTS LOSE THEIR JOB BECAUSE THEY WILL NOT HAVE SUBSIDY FOR DAY CARE IF. IF THE PARENTS LOSE THEIR JOBS, THEN THEY CANNOT PAY THEIR RENT, CANNOT TAKE CARE OF THE FAMILIES. THE ONE THING THAT WE ARE TRYING TO FREE UP MONEY FOR TO ADDRESS HOMELESS ISSUES AND OTHER ISSUES IN THE COMMUNITY, WE COULD BE CREATING, INCREASING THE HOMELESS POPULATION FROM THE RIPPLE EFFECT. I WAS IMPRESSED . WE LEVERAGE ABOUT THE DRAWDOWN. ANOTHER SPEAKER INDICATED, YOU KNOW. WE DO NOT GET VERY MUCH FROM CHSP PROCESS BUT WE USE THAT THE DRAWDOWN CLOSE TO A HALF $1 MILLION. I THINK THAT IS COMMENDABLE, REMARKABLE. WHEN I TALKED ABOUT UNCERTAINTY , I DON'T WANT TO SEE ANY OF THESE ENTITIES LOSE FUNDING BECAUSE NOT ONLY WITH A LIST THE AMOUNT THEY GET FROM CHSP, BUT THEY WOULD LOSE THE ABILITY TO LEVERAGE THAT MONEY AND DRAWDOWN FROM FEDERAL SOURCES AND OTHER GRANT SOURCES AS WELL. I AM NOT OPPOSED TO SLOWING THIS DOWN. THIS IS DRASTIC. BUT THOSE 22 CATEGORIES, WE HAVE SO MANY MORE ENTITIES THAT PROVIDE DIRECT SERVICES TO OUR CHILDREN AND THE IMPACT IS GREAT WITHOUT MORE CERTAINTY. I THINK WE NEED MORE CERTAINTY. OUR SERVICE PROVIDERS NEED TO KNOW THAT IF THE CHSP PROCESS IS GOING TO BE CHANGED AND THEY ARE GOING TO BE REQUIRED FOR THE CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL, I THINK THEY NEED SOME CERTAINTY ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THE CRITERIA THAT THE CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL WILL BE APPLYING IS THE CRITERIA THEY CAN ADDRESS. BEING A MEMBER OF THE CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL, I CAN TELL YOU -- HISTORICALLY, THAT WILL ME HAVE HAD REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL, THE INVITATION TO . PROBABLY MORE THAN 50% OF THE APPLICANTS ARE NOT FUNDED. I CAN ALMOST GUARANTEE YOU WITH THE PROCESS THAT WE UTILIZE RIGHT NOW, SERVICE PROVIDERS FOR FUNDING -- IT IS VERY LIKELY MORE THAN 50% WOULD NOT RECEIVE FUNDING WHICH IMPLORES ME TO THINK ABOUT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO THOSE ENTITIES THAT ARE PROVIDING DIRECT SERVICES FOR FAMILIES? WHAT WOULD BE THE IMPACT ON THEM? WE TALK ABOUT CHILDREN AND FAMILIES. I THINK WE ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT THE ENTITIES THAT PROVIDE SERVICES. THEY WOULD LIKELY HAVE TO LAY OFF SOME OF THEIR EMPLOYEES AS WELL. I THINK THE IMPACT IS A LOT GREATER THAN WHAT WE CAN IMAGINE. I THINK AS REALITY, IT COULD HAPPEN WITHOUT SOME TYPE OF CERTAINTY. I RECOGNIZE THAT WERE TRYING TO MAXIMIZE FUNDS SO WE CAN ADDRESS OTHER AREAS BUT I THINK WE NEED TO BE A LOT MORE DELIBERATE ABOUT NUMBER ONE, THE IMPACT AND NUMBER TWO, WHAT WILL HAPPEN ON THE CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL SIDE? ONCE THOSE AGENCIES ARE TOLD AFTER THIS TWO YEAR TRANSITION, YOU GOT TO GET FUNDING FROM THE CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS, NUMBER ONE, THIS GROUP THAT REPRESENTS THE CITY, THE COUNTY, AND THE CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL CONTINUE TO COLLABORATE, MEET. LET AGENCIES KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN ONCE THEY ARE THRUST TO THE CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL. I BELIEVE THIS WHOLE PROCESS CAME ABOUT BECAUSE OF THE FUNDING MECHANISM. I AGREE, THE CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL DOES RECEIVE FUNDING DIRECTLY FROM TAXPAYERS. IT IS A GREATER PART OF MONEY THEN THE COUNTY APPROPRIATES. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. MY PROBLEM IS ONCE IT GETS THERE, . I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE COMMUNITY CONTINUE TO WORK AND COME OUT WITH A PROPOSAL TO MEET SUBMITTED TO THE CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL TO AGREE OR DISAGREE. ALSO, KEEP IN MIND THAT WE HAVE VACANCIES. APPOINTED BY THE GOVERNOR. WE HAVE A MEMBER FROM SCHOOL BOARD, THIS BOARD. APPOINTEES FROM THE COURT SYSTEM. STRONG-MINDED. WE HAVE OUR OWN OPINIONS. YOU ALL CAN COME UP WITH A PROPOSAL, LOADED TO THE CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL. ONCE WE HAVE A FULL BOARD, I THINK TONIGHT, HOPEFULLY, WE WILL BE SENDING SOME NAMES TO THE GOVERNOR. I THINK WE CAN TAKE THIS YEAR TO TAKE OUR TIME, SLOWING DOWN, AND MAKE SURE NONE OF THESE PROVIDERS FALL THROUGH THE CRACKS. THE CHSP PROCESS, YOU PRESENTED TO US A COUPLE SESSIONS AGO. I BELIEVE YOU ARE CREATED FOR SEEING IF THE NEEDLES ARE BEING MOVED BY THE SERVICE PROVIDERS. WE CAN TAKE THOSE MTRICS . I DON'T SEE WHY, DEPENDING ON LEGAL ANALYSIS AND WE HAVE OUR OWN LEGAL COUNSEL AT THE CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL. I DON'T SEE WHY THE AMOUNT OF FUNDS THAT ARE ALLOCATED DOWN FOR THESE CATEGORIES THAT ARE BEING RECOMMENDED TO BE TAKEN AWAY -- I DO NOT SEE WHY THE COUNCIL COULD NOT CARVE OUT THOSE SAME AMOUNT OF FUNDS, UTILIZE A PROCESS THAT IS NOT BROKEN FOR ANALYSIS WITH THE CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL. THE COUNCIL MIGHT REQUIRE SOME ENHANCEMENT ON THE SERVICES THAT ARE BEING PROVIDED. I KNOW THE SERVICE PROVIDERS CAN DO THAT. THEY CAN GO THROUGH THE PROCESS. THEY CAN SHOW THAT WITH CSC FUNDS, THERE IS ENHANCEMENT TO WHAT THEY HAVE TRADITIONALLY PROVIDED TO OUR CHILDREN AND OUR FAMILIES. MY POINT IS THAT IF THE PROCESS IS NOT BROKEN, WHY NOT TAKE IT TO THE CHILDREN SERVICES -- WHY REINVENT THE WHEEL? IS THIS LEGALLY POSSIBLE? AND LET'S SAY, HYPOTHETICALLY, WE ARE LOOKING AT 1,000,000 1/2. I AM NOT SURE WHAT THE TOTAL FUNDING CYCLE WOULD BE. IF THE COUNCIL IS RECEIVING BETWEEN EIGHT AND $9 MILLION, WHY CAN'T WE CARVE OUT 1,000,000 1/2 OF THESE ENTITIES PREVIOUSLY SERVICE BY CHSP . CARVE IT OUT. THAT LEAVES 6-7 MILLION, 5-6 MILLION TO THE CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL TO CONTINUE OUR MANDATE AND WE RECENTLY DECIDED WAS TO FOCUS ON EARLY LEARNING. TO FOCUS ON SCHOOL READINESS SO OUR THIRD GRADE STUDENTS CAN PASS THE TEST. THERE ARE CERTAIN AREAS, CERTAIN Z.I.P. CODES IN THE COUNTY. IN THOSE CERTAIN AREAS, IT IS A DRASTIC DISTANCE. WE AGREE TO FOCUS IN ON THOSE AREAS. THAT WOULD LEAVE ENOUGH FUNDS FOR THE CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL TO DIRECT SPECIFIC FUNDING ON SCHOOL READINESS. >> OKAY. AND I GUESS MY POINT IS WHY REINVENT? EVEN THOUGH IT IS A DIFFERENT AGENCY, WE COULD IMPLORE THE SAME PROCESS. THE SAME TYPE OF COMMITTEE. WE COULD HAVE GO THROUGH THE SAME STRUCTURE. BUT AS A MEMBER OF THIS BOARD AND THE CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL, DO NOT WANT TO CHANCE IT ON ANY OF THESE ENTITIES BOOTING LOSING FUNDING BECAUSE THE ABILITY FOR LEVERAGE IS TAKEN AWAY. IN MY OPINION, WOULD BE TAKEN AWAY. >> SO I GUESS TO PIGGYBACK COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE AND COMMISSIONER PROCTOR, I WOULD LIKE THE COMMITTEE TO CONTINUE. BRING BROUGHT UP A PROPOSAL. I WANT TO KNOW WHEN THIS GOES TO THE CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL. I WANT TO KNOW THAT THESE OTHER AGENCIES THAT DIVIDE SERVICES, I WANT TO KNOW THAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE TREATED FAIRLY, THEY'RE GOING TO BE TREATED WITH THE PROCESS . I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SERVICES TO OUR CHILDREN CONTINUES. THAT IS WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. SERVICES FOR CHILDREN AND FAMILIES. I THINK IF WE DON'T TAKE IT TO THE LOGICAL CONCLUSION, IT'S TOO MUCH UNCERTAINTY. IT'S TOO MUCH UNCERTAINTY RIGHT NOW. >> AND I AM NOT MAKING A MOTION, I'M JUST THROWING THAT OUT FOR CONSIDERATION. I WOULD HELP, COMMISSIONERS, YOU COULD GIVE ME SOME DIFFERENCE ON THE CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL. AND IF THE PROPOSAL IS TAKEN TO THE COUNCIL, WE COULD TWEAK IT IF IT FALLS WITHIN THE EMILY OF THE LAW THAT WAS PASSED. AT THIS POINT, I'M NOT READY TO STAMP IT. THERE'S TWO. ALL THE OTHER AGENCIES THAT PROVIDE SERVICES TO OUR CHILDREN. COMMISSIONER WELCH. >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. THAT WAS A REALLY WELL SAID, VERY COMPELLING. AS PARTICULARLY TO OFFER A SUGGESTION WHICH REALLY CHALLENGES MY COMMENTS ON THIS. I AM REALLY PREPARED TO BE THE CONTRARIAN AND HERE IS WHY. NUMBER ONE, BUT WE ARE DOING IS IN GOOD FAITH. IF YOU LOOK AT IT FROM A BIG PICTURE PERSPECTIVE, THIS COMMUNITY HAS VOTED TO SPECIFIC PART OF MONEY. TARGETED SPECIFICALLY WITH THESE ISSUES AND WE ARE TRYING TO BE EFFICIENT IN HOW WE ARE DOLLARS SPECIFICALLY AS IT RELATES TO CHILDREN SERVICES. ALSO, OTHER NEEDS THAT WE HAVE. I GET THE UNCERTAINTY BUT I FEEL LIKE WE ARE DELAYING THE INEVITABLE. AT SOME POINT, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO TRANSITION THE CHILDREN SERVICES PROVIDED THROUGH CHSP TO THE CSC BECAUSE IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT APPLICATION PROBLEM AND THE CSC FUNDS CANNOT BE DUPLICATED IN OTHER WAYS. I KNOW THERE ARE WATCHDOGS OUT THERE, PEOPLE WHO ARE CHOMPING AT THE BIT TO FIND THAT DUPLICATION. WHICH THREATENS THE FUNDING. >> WHETHER THAT DUPLICATION IS COMING , THERE'S GOING TO BE DUPLICATIONS. AT SOME POINT, WERE GOING TO HAVE TO DO THIS. I WAS GOING TO SAY I CANNOT VOTE FOR THIS MOTION. ARE WE ON OPTION TWO? HAS THERE BEEN A MOTION MADE? WAS IT FOR OPTION TWO? >> I DO NOT BELIEVE WE HAVE A MOTION. >> IT WAS FOR OPTION TWO. THAT IS THE DO NOT AUTHORIZE. I REALLY AM LEANING TOWARDS OPTION ONE AND LIKE RIPPING THE BAND-AID OFF, SO TO SPEAK. WE ARE JUST DOING IT SLOWLY. COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE'S CONCERNS EARLIER. I COULD BE WRONG ABOUT THIS. THIS IS WHERE I WILL NEED SOME HELP FROM STAFF. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE ARE EXTENDING FOR A YEAR. WE ARE NOT GIVING RUNWAY FOR A YEAR? >> WE HAVE NOT ACCEPTED ANYTHING. >> HOLD ON. >> OPTION ONE DOES NOT ACCOMPLISH A LITTLE BIT OF GRACE FOR A YEAR? MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT OPTION ONE PROVIDED A YEAR OF GRACE. >> YES, IT DOES GIVE A YEAR FOR THOSE AGENCIES THAT WOULD NOT BE ELIGIBLE FOR COUNCIL FUNDING TO APPLY THROUGH CHSP. THAT APPLICATION IS HAPPENING NOW, RIGHT? >> HYPOTHETICALLY, ALL THE PEOPLE WHO ARE WANTING THIS FUNDING EXPECTING THIS FUNDING, ARE GOING TO APPLY FOR IT THROUGH THE NORMAL PROCESS. THEY WILL PROBABLY GET AWARDED HE MONEY AND THEY HAVE TO TRY AND TRANSITION, WHERE IF THEY DON'T GET THE FUNDING, WE WILL KEEP THEM ON ANOTHER YEAR. AT THAT POINT, THEN WE WILL HAVE SOME RUBBER MEETING ROAD. THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING. I FEEL LIKE THERE IS SOME CONFUSION. BECAUSE HE IS SHAKING HIS HEAD AND HE IS NODDING HIS HEAD. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IS CLEAR BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE ANYBODY WITHOUT PARACHUTE. I THINK THE PROBLEM IS WE ARE FALLING. THE PARACHUTE HAS BEEN CAREFULLY PACKED AND EVERYBODY IS SCARED TO PULL THE STRING. AT SOME POINT, THE GROUND IS APPROACHING AND THAT IS THE WAY I THINK ABOUT THIS. I FEEL LIKE WE WOULD BE BEST SERVED MOVING ON DOWN THE ROAD. I THINK IT'S BEEN MADE VERY CLEAR AMONGST COMMISSIONERS, OUR STAFF, AND EVERY STAKEHOLDER THAT WE DO NOT WANT ANYBODY FALLING THROUGH THE CRACKS. WE DON'T WANT ANYBODY LOSING FUNDING. MATCHES DRAWING DOWN. THAT IS MY CONCERN. I SAY ALL THAT TO SAY, AND I DO NOT KNOW HOW TO CRAFT THIS. TO CRAFT A MOTION TO THE EFFECT OF WHAT YOU ASKED FOR. I WOULD DO THAT OUT OF DIFFERENCE FOR YOU, MADAM CHAIR. IF WE WOULD CRAFT A MOTION THAT EFFECTIVELY SAYS WHAT CHAIR CUMMINGS HAS SUGGESTED WHICH IS GIVE STAFF DIRECTION TO FIND A WAY TO REALLY AND TRULY TRANSITION THE CHSP FUNDING . IF IT'S POSSIBLE, THERE ARE SOME SIGNIFICANT CONCERNS ABOUT WHETHER IT IS STATUTORILY POSSIBLE TO DO THAT. I DON'T KNOW. OTHER THAN A CLEARLY LINE EMOTION AND TO THAT EFFECT OF WHAT YOU ARE ASKING FOR, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO NOT SUPPORT OPTION TWO ON THE TABLE. >> ON THIS CLARIFICATION, COMMISSIONER WELCH , SINCE WE MET THE LAST TIME. OUR GENERAL COUNSEL FOR THE CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL DID RUN A LEGAL OPINION. HIS OPINION WAS TO THE EXTENT THAT IF THE COUNTY WITHDREW FUNDING TO THE CHSP PROCESS WITH THE CITY, IF THAT FUNDING IS WITHDRAWN AND WE KNOW AS THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR IS INDICATING, THAT IS A POLICY DECISION FROM THIS COUNTY. BUT IF WE WITHDRAW THE FUNDING, IT IS LEGAL FOR THE CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL TO PROVIDE FUNDING TO THOSE AGENCIES THAT NO LONGER RECEIVE FUNDING FROM THE CHSP PROCESS. MY QUESTION IS THAT WE MIGHT NEED A LEGAL OPINION ABOUT IT FROM OUR GENERAL COUNSEL IS WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN CARVE OUT FROM THE $89 MILLION THAT THE CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL RECEIVES IN A YEAR, IF WE CAN CARVE OUT THE SAME DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TAKING FROM THE CHSP PROCESS AND PLACE IT ONTO THE CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL AND UTILIZE THAT SIMILAR PROCESS THAT THE CHSP PROCESS DOES TO EVALUATE THE PROPOSALS AND DETERMINE THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING. THAT IS WHAT I'M SAYING WILL PROBABLY NEED A LEGAL TO LOOK AT. IF WE DID IT THAT WAY, WE STILL LEAVE ENOUGH MONEY WITH THE COUNCIL TO FOCUS ON THE AREAS THAT WE WANT TO FOCUS ON. >> MA'AM -- >> ONE SECOND. >> COMMISSIONER MADDOX, I WILL BE QUICK. I AM SORRY. MADAM CHAIR, WHAT DO YOU THINK -- WAIT A MINUTE. >> I'M SORRY. >> THAT'S OKAY. WHAT DO YOU THINK MAYBE THE BEST WAY TO DO ACCOMPLISH THAT? DELAY? A VOTE ON NUMBER TWO AND NOT DO THIS? WE NEED TO GET SOME POLICY DIRECTION TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE IN THE RIGHT POSTURE TO DO THAT. I AM WILLING TO MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION TO ASK OUR STAFF TO WORK WITH THE CSC. ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS GET A LEGAL OPINION ABOUT WHETHER WE CAN DO THAT. I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE THIS CONVERSATION IN NOVEMBER AND WE DIDN'T GET THAT FAR. >> I DO NOT THINK GETTING A LEGAL OPINION SHOULD BE PART OF THE MOTION. I THINK IF WE NEED A LEGAL OPINION, THE COUNCIL CAN RECEIVE THAT WITHOUT EMOTION. >> ABSOLUTELY. >> THAT STILL BEGS THE QUESTION HOW DO WE PROCEED WITH THIS AGENDA ITEM IF WE HAVE A BOARD DIRECTION? AGAIN, I AM NOT REALLY WANTING TO DO THE NUMBER TWO. >> LET ME SAY THIS. VICE CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION THAT THE COMMITTEE CONTINUES TO WORK BUT WORK SPECIFICALLY ON THE PROCESS THAT THE CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL WOULD UTILIZE TO SERVICE THESE ENTITIES THAT WILL NO LONGER BE ELIGIBLE FOR FUNDING. OKAY? INCLUDING THE SPECIFICS. WHETHER OR NOT THE FUNDING CAN BE CARVED OUT OF THE CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL WITH THESE ENTITIES THAT ARE PROVIDING DIRECT SERVICES. THEY WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO SHOW ENHANCEMENT PURSUANT TO THE STATUTE. WHETHER OR NOT WE COULD UTILIZE THE SAME PROCESS WITH THE CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL, WHICH WOULD LEAVE SEVERAL MILLION TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES THAT WE, ON THE COUNCIL, HAVE INDICATED VERY IMPORTANT TO US IN LEON COUNTY. >> MADAM COUNTY ATTORNEY, THEY HAVE A STAFF, ATTORNEY, TAXING AUTHORITY. CAN THE COUNTY UTILIZE SHINGLETON ? IS IT ON INITIATIVE AND STAFF AND THE LAWYER THAT COMES UP WITH THAT PROCESS TO ACHIEVE HOW % THEY WOULD ACCOMMODATE THE CHSP? SHOULD MY EMPLOYEE DO THAT OR SHOULD CHILDREN SERVICES EMPLOYEE DO THAT? >> IT COULD BE EITHER ONE. THE BOARD COULD DIRECT COUNTY STAFF TO COLLABORATE AND WORK WITH STAFF TO DEVELOP A PROPOSAL TO TAKE TO THE CSC OR THE CSC BOARD WOULD HAVE TO DIRECT ITS STAFF TO UNDERTAKE THAT WORK. THAT IS SOMETHING THE CSC BOARD WOULD HAVE TO DO. >> WE CANNOT CONTROL ANYTHING WITH THE BOARD? >> RIGHT. OR THEIR STAFF. >> AND MAY I SAY, COMMISSIONER PROCTOR AND MADAM ATTORNEY, WE GOT A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING THAT INCLUDES THE CITY, THE COUNTY, AND THE CSC. WE HAVE AGREED TO WORK TOGETHER ON FUNDING. THE WAY I SEE IT IS ONGOING. PART OF THEM MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING. I DON'T THINK THE COMMITTEE WILL BE DIRECTING THE COUNCIL THROUGH ANYTHING ANYMORE THAN THE COMMITTEE'S COMING BEFORE US TONIGHT. I THINK WE CAN'T JUST DO PART AND THROW IT AND NOT MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT A LOT OF CONCLUSION FOR THE PROCESS. THAT COMMITTEE IS MADE UP OF THE CSC IN THE COUNTY. OKAY? I THINK THOSE ENTITIES COULD COME TOGETHER WITH A PROPOSAL. I DON'T THINK IT'S RIGHT. IT IS NOT FAIR FOR OUR SERVICE PROVIDERS TO BE UNCERTAIN ABOUT THE FUTURE, UNCERTAIN ABOUT WHO THEY'RE GOING TO SERVICE. EVEN UNCERTAIN ABOUT THE EMPLOYEES. >> OKAY. >> I WOULD LIKE TO WEIGH IN. I LOVE WHAT YOU SAID. SOME ISSUES TO ADDRESS AND YOU SEE NOT WITH YOUR EYES BUT YOU SEE WITH YOUR HEART. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE ISSUES THAT YOU HAVE TUGGED ON OUR HEARTSTRINGS. YOUR PASSION. THIS IS A HEART ISSUE IN PART AS MUCH OF A HEAD ISSUE. I LOVE THE IDEA OF THE PILOT PROJECT. THERE IS NO GAMBLE SO THAT THERE IS NO RISK AND NO GAMBLE . AND IN THAT WAY, THERE IS NO GAMBLE. I LIKE THAT. THE FLIPSIDE OF THAT IS THE CSC HAS THE AUTHORITY TO TAKE ALL THE DEBT OF THE CURRENT CSC. THEY HAVE SPENDING ON THE CREDIT CARD. GUARANTEES NO LOSS, NO GAMBLE. WHAT THE INCREASE LOOKS LIKE IF IT WERE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE. WHEN WE PULL THE PLUG ON FUNDING, THE CITY PULLS THE PLUG. THE TAXPAYERS ARE NOT DOUBLE DIPPING. THE TAXPAYERS ARE PAYING FOR, CONTINUING TO. BE BUT EVERYBODY ON THE IF WE CAN GET THE CHILDREN'S COUNSEL BOARD TO LOOK AT THAT NUMBER WILL BE. WE PULL THE PLUG BUT EVERYBODY REMAINS SAFE. >> S, COMMISSIONER MADDOX? >> AM I ALLOWED TO PARTICIPATE IN DISCUSSION? >> THE PROHIBITION AGAINST ENGAGING AND DISCUSSING PROHIBITS DISCUSSION WHEN YOU ARE AN APPOINTED OFFICIAL. THE GENERAL RULE IS EVEN IF AN ELECTORAL OFFICIAL ACCUSES, VERY SPECIFIC CIRCUMSTANCES CAN ENGAGE IN DISCUSSION. YES, YOU CAN ENGAGE IN DISCUSSION ON THIS MATTER IF YOU CHOOSE TO. >> IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO WEIGH IN? >> YES. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS TRY TO BRING TOGETHER ALL THE COMMENT TO SEE IF I COULD HELP COMMISSIONER WELCH WITH WHAT HE'S TRYING TO GET TO. IT SOUNDS LIKE TO ME THAT NO ONE ON THE COMMISSION IS REALLY COMFORTABLE WITH THE WAY THINGS SIT AND UNCERTAINTY OF HOW THINGS ARE GOING TO WORK. MAY NOT BE FUNDED. EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE THAT PILE OF MONEY IN THIS NEW PROPOSED BUCKET. THE QUESTION IS, AND MADAM CHAIR, I THINK YOU ARTICULATED WELL. I THINK THE QUESTION IS MORE OF -- WE WANT TO WORK THROUGH THIS THING IN A WAY THAT AT THE END, DOES MORE CERTAINTY FOR THE GOVERNMENTS INVOLVED AS WELL AS WHAT ORGANIZATIONS INVOLVED. MADAM CHAIR, YOU TALKED ABOUT THE COUNTY, THE CITY, AND THE CSC WORKING TOGETHER TO COME UP WITH A PROCESS THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS FIRST. IS THAT WHERE YOU WERE ON THAT? >> ABSOLUTELY. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT. >> THEY WILL BE. I THINK NOW SINCE EVERYBODY IS ON THAT PAGE, I THINK EVEN COMMISSIONER WELCH, SOME KIND OF HESITANCY BECAUSE HE WANTS THE CERTAINTY TOO. I THINK THE QUESTION IS NOT WHERE WE ARE GOING BUT HOW LONG ARE WE GOING AGAINST STAFFING ORGANIZATIONS TO GET THERE? ARE WE GOING TO CONTINUE WITH THE SAME CYCLE FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS? AND IN THAT SPAN OF TIME, REQUIRE THAT THE GOVERNMENTS WORK TOGETHER TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT ACCOMMODATES SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY IS CULPABLE WITH? OR ARE WE GOING TO GIVE IT SIX MONTHS? A YEAR? THE THING WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT IS WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN? WHAT IS THE THRESHOLD BETWEEN RIGHT NOW AND THE NEW CHSP CYCLE? THAT IS WHAT THE ORGANIZATIONS WHO SPOKE TODAY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT. THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT IF A CYCLE HAPPENS, AND MY GOING TO BE ABLE TO APPLY FOR MONEY. AND IF I DON'T APPLY, IF I AM NOT ABLE TO APPLY AND I APPLIED TO THE CSC, I NEED A CERTAIN WAY TO KNOW THAT ALL THE CHILDREN THAT I'M SERVING ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO BE SERVED IN ALL THE STAFF ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO STAY WITH ME. COMMISSIONER WELCH, I THINK IT IS EITHER WE KEEP THE SAME TWO YEAR CYCLE BUT WITHIN THE TIMING, WE GET STAFF TO WORK TOGETHER TO BRING BACK PROCESS WITHIN THE NEXT TWO YEARS THAT WE CAN AGREE UPON THAT MAKES EVERYBODY COMFORTABLE . WELL, I WILL NOT SAY EVERYBODY. BUT ME, TOO, SAY NO MATTER HOW WE DRAW THIS, SOMEBODY'S GOING TO END UP UNCOMFORTABLE. THERE IS NO WAY WE GET OUT OF THIS AND EVERYBODY IS IN TROUBLE. IT'S GOING TO BE UNCOMFORTABLE BECAUSE IT IS CHANGE. WE CAN CREATE SOMETHING TO WHERE AT LEAST THERE IS SOME CERTAINTY THAT AT LEAST THE BOARD MEMBERS FEEL LIKE THEY ARE CERTAIN AS TO HOW THINGS ARE GOING TO WORK OUT IN THE END. RIGHT NOW, I THINK WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THRESHOLD. IF WE WANT TO KEEP THE SAME CYCLE, I THINK COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE SAID A ONE YEAR CYCLE? ONE YEAR, TWO YEARS. WHAT IS THAT LOOK LIKE? THAT IS WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW. I DON'T THINK ANYBODY -- LIKE YOU SAID TALKING ABOUT RIPPING OFF THE BAND-AID, EVEN THOUGH I THINK WE WANT TO, IT STILL DID NOT SOUND LIKE, TO ME, THAT TOTALLY COMFORTABLE WITH IT WITHOUT KNOWING ON THE BACK END THAT EVERYBODY WAS ON THE SAME PAGE AS TO WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO THOSE ORGANIZATIONS THAT DO NOT APPLY IS GOING TO LOSE FUNDING. I WANTED TO SEE IF I WAS AT LEAST BRINGING THAT ALTOGETHER TO SEE IF WE COULD GET TO A PLACE WHERE EVERYBODY IS COMFORTABLE WITH THE WAY THAT WERE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS VOTE. I THINK WE ALL WANT TO BE ON THE SAME PAGE. >> THINK YOU. ABSOLUTELY. MR. COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, YOU HAVE A COMMENT ON THIS? >> MADAM CHAIR, I WANT TO SPEAK TO THE TECHNICAL NATURE OF THE MOTION THAT YOU ARTICULATED. THE VALUE STATEMENT. AND AGAIN, AS WE SAID AT THE BEGINNING, AS I SAID AT THE VERY BEGINNING, THIS IS JUST AN OPTION FOR THE BOARD. WE CAN DECIDE WHETHER TO TAKE IT, NOT TO TAKE IT, WHEN TO TAKE IT. ANY OF THAT DIRECTION WORKS FOR US. WITH RESPECT TO THE MOTION, WHICH WOULD BE FOR US AS COUNTY STAFF WOULD GIVE THE DIRECTION TO WORK WITH OUR PARTNERS AT THE CSC AND THE CITY OF TALLAHASSEE TO GO TO THE CSC AND PROPOSE TO THEM TO BASICALLY REPLICATE OUR PROCESS FOR THOSE AGENCIES. WE CAN DO THAT. THE BOARD IN THE CSC CONNECT ON THAT AND THE NEXT ONE. WE LOSE A LITTLE BIT OF HOW WE DETERMINE THE TIMING OF THAT. AGAIN, THE CSC COULD DECIDE THEY WANTED TO DO IT NOW OR IF THE CSC SAYS WE DON'T CONTROL THE AMOUNT OF TIME TO TAKE THAT DECISION, IT COULD BE THAT WE DRIFT INTO THE NEXT CYCLE, IN WHICH CASE, WE COULD ACT ON IT THEN. TECHNICALLY, I UNDERSTAND EMOTION AND CERTAINLY, COULD GIVE US THE DIRECTION OF THAT WAS TO PROPOSE SUCH A THING. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. WE KEEP HAVING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHAT THE COUNCIL AND THEY ARE IN THE ROOM. THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR IS JUST SITTING OVER THERE. WOULD IT BE OKAY -- >> KNOW. I DO NOT THINK THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE AT THIS TIME. >> WE ARE TALKING ABOUT BOARD. THE PROPOSAL WILL TAKE BOARD ACTION. >> I DON'T WANT TO PUT THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR ON THE SPOT. >> OKAY. >> I THINK SHE WANTS TO SPEAK. >> KNOW. >> OKAY. >> KNOW. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE? DID I SEE YOUR HAND? >> COMMISSIONER WELCH? >> GO AHEAD. >> I WAS GOING TO TRY TO MAKE A MOTION, MADAM CHAIR. FOR BOARD DIRECTION TO DO WHAT HE SAID. ASK OUR STAFF TO WORK WITH ALL EXPECTS TO DEVELOP A TRANSITION OF FUNDING OVER TO CSC AND LET THE CSC TRY TO FIGURE THAT OUT OVER THE NEXT CHSP CYCLE OF TWO YEARS. >> I'M NOT SURE WE NEED TO DO A TIME LIMIT TO ALLOW THEM TO ACCEPT IT OR NOT. >> THEN THAT WOULD BE THE MOTION TO DIRECT OUR STAFF TO WORK WITH THE CITY AND OBVIOUSLY, REPRESENTING THE COUNTY TO FIND A WAY TO TRANSITION THE CHSP OVER TO THE CSC IN TERMS OF CHILDREN SERVICES >> AND BRING IT BACK . >> MADAM CHAIR, I WITHDRAW MY MOTION AND I AGREE TO SUPPORT. >> THANK YOU. IS THERE A SECOND? >> THINK THANK YOU. >> MADAM CHAIR -- >> HOLD ON ONE SECOND. >> JUST FOR CLARIFICATION. TO BE SURE, THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE'VE DONE. AGAIN, IF THE ISSUE WAS TO TAKE YOUR PROPOSAL AND ASK THE CSC TO REPLICATE OUR PROCESS, AGAIN, WHAT I HEARD WAS TO ENSURE THAT THE AGENCIES HAVE -- ALL I AM SUGGESTING IS THAT IT IS A LITTLE BIT MORE DIRECTION BUT YOU COULD PROVIDE US, RATHER THAN JUST SAY TRANSITION THESE SERVICES, BECAUSE THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE TRIED TO DO BUT IF YOU WANT US TO MAKE A PROPOSAL TO REPLICATE, WE CAN DO THAT. I WAS JUST SEEKING A LITTLE BIT MORE CLARIFICATION. >> TO REPLICATE OUR FUNDING FOR CHSP? >> OR ACCEPT ANY OTHER PROPOSAL. I DO NOT THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE RELEGATED TO THAT BUT I THINK THAT COULD BE A GOOD OPTION. >> OKAY. >> THANK YOU. >> IF THERE IS NO TIMETABLE. >> WE DID NOT ENTERTAIN THE TIMETABLE. DISCUSSION. >> THANK YOU. I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION. I AM NOT COMFORTABLE. I WOULD LIKE TO MEET WITH THE CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL AND SEE HOW THIS AFFECTS THEM SINCE THEY'RE GOING TO BE ADOPTING OUR PROCESS. THEY HAVE THEIR OWN PROCESS. THEY ARE THEIR OWN TAXING AUTHORITY, THEIR OWN BODY. I DO NOT THINK IT IS OUR RIGHT OR DUTY TO GIVE THEM DIRECTION OF WHAT TO DO. I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION. >> JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THAT WILL BE PART OF THE OVERALL PROCESS. WE ARE NOT SAYING GIVE THEM, TELL THEM WHAT TO DO. WE ARE SAYING PART OF THE M.O. YOU IS ALL THESE AGENCIES TO WORK TOGETHER ON FUNDING, PROGRAMMING SO THEY WILL BE WORKING WITH THE CSC. OF COURSE, A PROPOSAL WOULD HAVE TO GO TO THE FULL BODY FOR ACCEPTANCE OR NOT. IT'S NOT SAYING TELL THEM WHAT TO DO. IT IS A PUZZLE. IT MIGHT BE ONE OR TWO PROPOSALS ON THE FUNDING PROCESS BUT IN THE ANALYSIS, WHAT WE WANT, WHAT I WANT IS SOME CERTAINTY. SO ARE THESE AGENCIES THAT ARE BEING TAKEN AWAY FROM THE PROCESS. COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE? >> THINK YOU. >> DON'T FORGET ABOUT ME. >> COMMISSIONER MADDOX? >> I WILL COME TO YOU AFTR COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE, OKAY? >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I WANT TO GIVE CERTAINTY FOR THIS APPLICATION THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THAT WOULD BE DUE IN MARCH. THAT IS 60 DAYS AWAY. I HATE TO KICK THE CAN, TOMORROW MAKE CLEAR TO THESE ORGANIZATIONS. I'M GOING TO OFFER TO SUBSTITUTE EMOTION AND THAT INTEREST AND THEN ZIP IT AND SEE WHERE IT GOES. I AM OFFERING TO SUBSTITUTE EMOTION A MOTION THAT WE KEEP OUR CATEGORIES THE SAME FOR THIS CYCLE. THAT WE KEEP ALL THE CATEGORIES THE SAME FOR THE CYCLE, NO CHANGE. >> I THINK THEY WILL BE THE SAME IF WE DON'T VOTE FOR CHANGE. THEY ARE GOING TO REMAIN THE SAME. >> THIS IS TO BED , THOUGH. >> IF WE DON'T ACCEPT TONIGHT, THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY CHANGES. >> CORRECT. THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION I MAKE IS KEEP THE SAME, DO NOT ACCEPT THIS. >> DO YOU ACCEPT THAT? >> YES. >> FOR CLARIFICATION, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE. AWESOME. >> COMMISSIONER MADDOX -- >> I HAD THE SAME QUESTION COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE SAID. I DID HAVE A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION. IS THAT FOR ANOTHER TWO YOUR CYCLE? THAT IS THE QUESTION I HAVE. THE APPLICATION IS COMING UP IN MARCH, IS IT NOT? >> ABSOLUTELY. >> OKAY. BASICALLY, WE WANT TO KEEP CHSP THE SAME FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS AND IN THE MEANTIME, STAFF WOULD WORK WITH THE CITY TO SEE IF WE CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT NOBODY CAN GO EVERY AGREE UPON. AT THAT POINT, THE TRANSITION THEN, MADAM CHAIR? >> ACTUALLY. THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> MADAM ATTORNEY, I HAD A QUESTION. IS THERE SOME KIND OF MANDATE THAT WE ARE UNDER TO TRANSITION CHSP UNDER THE CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL? IS THERE SOME STATES THAT SHE? IS THERE A LEGAL MANDATE THAT WE DO SOMETHING? >> NO. >> WE HAVE NO COUNTY ORDINANCE THAT MAKES US TAKE CHSP AND SUCCUMB TO CSC? >> NO. >> WE REALLY DON'T HAVE A TIMETABLE. IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE, OURSELVES, HAVE FOSTERED THAT TWO YEARS, ONE YEAR, RIGHT NOW IS SELF GENERATED FROM OURSELVES. IS THAT WHAT WE ARE -- >> YES. >> OKAY. SO IF WE DON'T DO ANYTHING AT ALL, WE WOULD NOT VIOLATE ORDINANCE? WE WOULD NOT VIOLATE A STATE STATUE AND WE WOULD NOT VIOLATE THE COUNTIES M.O. YOU? >> NO. >> OKAY. >> THE RECOMMENDATION THAT HAS NO TIMELINE IS NOT CONSTRICTED TO TWO OR THREE, NOR FOUR. LOOKING AT THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU REFERENCED, MADAM CHAIR. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS MISSING OF WHICH COMMISSIONER WAS RIGHTFULLY NEEDING AND WANTING TO HEAR. WE HAVE NO LETTER, NO ACTION FROM THE CSC BOARD STATING THEIR READINESS, WILLINGNESS, OR THEIR CAPABILITY OF DOING THE WORK OF WHICH THE CITY IS. SEEING SOMETHING IN WRITING, GOT M.O. YOU MOU THERE. IT SEEMS LIKE FROM THE WORDING, WERE GOING TO MAKE A PACK MULE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE AUDIT AND THE RECORDS RETENTION, THIS MOU REQUIRES TO PERMIT PERSONS DULY AUTHORIZED TO HAVE FULL ACCESS AND THE RIGHT TO EXAMINE ANY OF THE RECORDS AND DOCUMENTS RELATED TO THIS M.O. YOU. REGARDLESS OF THE FORM , THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT WE REVIEW AND THERE IS NO RECIPROCAL COMMENT OF THE CSC HAVING THE RIGHT TO ACCESS ALL FORMS OF RECORD-KEEPING, BE IT YOUR NOTES. WHAT HAVE YOU? AND I CLEARLY SEE THAT THE NATURE OF THE AUDITING, THE RECORD-KEEPING, THE RECORDS RETENTION , CSC, THIS IS GOING TO BE A SIGNIFICANT BURDEN AS WELL AS ALL THE APPLICATIONS. ALL THE SUITCASES ARE GOING TO COME UNDER THE RECORD-KEEPING AND WHERE THEY ARE COMPELLED BY AGREEMENT TO BE RESPONSIVE TO THE CITY AND THE COUNTY, WE DEMAND TO SEE THAT. THAT IS NOT A RECIPROCAL TASK THAT THE CSC HAS FOR OUR AGENCIES. >> I LIKE THE POINT. I REALLY LOVE. I WOULD LOVE IF THE CSC WOULD TAKE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY. IF THEY COULD LOCK INTO THAT AMOUNT AND COME UP WITH SOME OTHER MEMORANDUM AND SAY THAT OUR ORGANIZATIONS WOULD BE TAKEN CARE OF IN THAT WAY, NO GAMBLE. I LIKE THAT. AS I ARTICULATED PREVIOUSLY, THE OTHER ASPECT IS FOR THE CSC TO STATE AN OPEN AND WILLINGNESS TO RAISE THE MILLAGE RATE TO COME UP. YOU THREADED THE NEEDLE. YOU FOUND THE SOLUTION. WE DESIGNATED AND ASSUMING THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR CSC OR WE CAN COMMIT TO RAISING. UNTIL I HEAR FROM CSC, RIGHT NOW, I'M NOT SURE IF THEY HAVE REACTED AT ALL. IT IS DEFINITELY PREMATURE ON OUR PARTS TO ASSERT THIS KIND OF BURDEN. THEY WANT TO LOOK GOOD, PRETTY. BUT THEY ARE TWO YEARS OLD AND THERE IS MORE STEADINESS THAT THE ORGANIZATION NEEDS. THOSE COMMENTS WILL BE SUPPORTED. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER PROCTOR. AS THIS IS REPRESENTATIVE ON THE CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL, DID COME TO ONE OF OUR MEETINGS AND HE PRESENTED A PROPOSAL. JUST FOR PRESENTATION, IT WAS NOTHING THAT WE HAVE TO VOTE UPON. WE HAVE NOT HAD THIS PRESENTED TO THE BOARD TO VOTE UPON. I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT IF A PROPOSAL IS MADE, IT PASSES THE SCRUTINY. I THINK THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WOULD BRING BEFORE THE BOARD FOR OUR CONSIDERATION THAT AT THIS POINT, THIS PROCESS HAS NOT BEEN REALLY DISCUSSED. VOTED UPON BY THE CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL. IF IT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CHILDREN, I PROMISE WE WILL BECAUSE WE WANT WHAT IS BEST FOR OUR CHILDREN. HAVING ALL THE SERVICE PROVIDERS WITH SOME OF THE CSC FUNDING, I BELIEVE THAT IT WOULD BE NO QUESTION THAT IT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE BY THE BOARD. >> ONE MORE COMMENT? >> I'M SORRY. THANK YOU. I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR TO EVERYBODY THAT IT IS A NEGOTIATION THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN OVER THE NEXT TWO YEAR PERIOD. THE CITY AND THE COUNTY ARE ALL THEIR OWN SEPARATE GOVERNMENTS THAT REALLY WORK OFF OF TAX DOLLARS. THERE IS NO GUARANTEE THAT IN THIS TWO YEARS, AGREEMENT WOULD BE REACHED SUFFICES ENOUGH FOR EVERYONE TO FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THE DIRECTION THAT WE ARE TRYING TO MOVE IN. WE MAY GET THE SAME POINT IN TWO YEARS THAT WE ARE NOW. I THINK WE HAVE TO PAIR OURSELVES, AT SOME POINT OVER THE NEXT YEAR AND A HALF OR SO, AS TO WHAT EVEN THAT IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE. I COULD VERY WELL SEE US SITTING RIGHT HERE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION. THE CSC SAYING THEY CANNOT COME UP WITH A WAY. AND HAVING TO FIGURE OUT ANOTHER TWO YOUR CYCLE. I DON'T WANT TO BE AN ASSUMPTION THAT AT THE END OF THIS THING, A NEGOTIATION IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE WAY THAT WORKS FOR ALL THE ORGANIZATIONS. I SAID THAT NOT EVERYBODY IS GOING TO COME OUT OF THIS THING HAPPY. WERE GOING TO HAVE TO BE OKAY WITH THAT OR WERE GOING TO HAVE TO BE OKAY WITH DOING THE SAME THING TODAY THAT WE DID IN TWO YEARS THAT WERE DOING TODAY. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. I BELIEVE WE WANT THE MOTION RESTATED. >> ANOTHER COUNTY ADMINISTRATION -- >> ESSENTIALLY , THE DIRECTION WAS FOR COUNTY STAFF TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE CSC AND THE CITY OF TALLAHASSEE TO REPLICATE TO THE GREATEST EXTENT POSSIBLE IN BUILDING AS MUCH CERTAINTY AS POSSIBLE INTO THE SYSTEM. AFTER THE CURRENT TWO YOUR CYCLE IS COMPLETED, NO CHANGES FOR THE CURRENT CYCLE. TO SEE IF WE CAN TRANSITION AFTER THAT TIME TO EIGHT CSC PROCESS WHICH DOES THAT. OUR EXISTING CATEGORICAL FUNDING. >> THANK YOU. >> TOOK THE WORDS OUT OF MY MOUTH. >> THANK YOU. >> THIS MOU . I COULD NOT SEE A DATE OF TERMINATION. THERE IS A REFERENCE TO FIVE YEARS. HOW LONG DOES THIS MOU SERVE? I DO NOT EVEN SEE A TERMINATION POINT. >> I WILL LET THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR WAY IN. MANY INSTANCES, >> COMMISSIONER PROCTOR. >> IT IS ACTUALLY SECTION FOUR. TERM/TERMINATION. THE DATE SET FOR THE LEVEL OF CONTINUE UNTIL A PARTY IS 30 DAYS WRITTEN TO INTENT TO TERMINATE. THAT IS THE TERM. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> IS THERE ANY INTEREST IN INCLUDING OTHER ORGANIZATIONS IN THE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE MAKEUP OF HOW THIS LOOKS IN THE FUTURE? >> I DID NOT UNDERSTAND YOUR COMMENT. SAY IT AGAIN, PLEASE? >> IS THERE ANY INTEREST ON THE BOARD, INCLUDING OPINIONS IN HOW THIS THING WORKS OUT WITH NEGOTIATIONS? >> THEY WILL BE OBLIGATED TO BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD. WE WILL KNOW. >> NO, MA'AM. WHEN STAFF IS HAVING THIS CONVERSATION, HAVING THEM INCLUDE US. >> OH, I'M SORRY. INCLUDE IN THE PROCESS? I THINK ALL OF THE SERVICE PROVIDERS. I BELIEVE WE GAVE DIRECTION AT THE LAST MEETING. WE ASKED A GROUP IF THEY WOULD CONTACT THOSE SERVICE PROVIDERS OF OUR CHILDREN AND I THINK THEY TRIED TO ENGAGE THEM. SEVEN OR EIGHT MEETINGS WITH THOSE SERVICE PROVIDERS. I DON'T BELIEVE THEY WOULD BE EXCLUDED. >> NOBODY WOULD BE EXCLUDED. . ALL THOSE IN FAVOR ON THE FLOOR, LET IT BE KNOWN BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. >> COMMISSIONER MADDOX? >> I'M SORRY. >> FOR THE RECORD, I HAVE ACCUSED MYSELF AS WELL. >> I VOTE THAT RECUSED HIMSELF. THANK YOU FOR A ROBUST DISCUSSION. I THINK IT CLEARLY INDICATES THAT WE ARE ALL CONCERNED ABOUT HOW CHILDREN. >> THANK YOU, MATTER CHAIRMAN. THE ITEM BEFORE YOU, ITEM NUMBER 28 REQUESTS PUBLIC HEARING . BOARD APPROVAL TO CONSIDER ADOPTING PROPOSED ORDINANCE PER PITTING. >> THANK YOU. END OF DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE? >> I WILL KEEP IT BRIEF. I'M GOING TO OPPOSE THIS. IN THE INTEREST OF I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE HELP TO THIS PROBLEM BY IMPOSING MORE PENALTIES ON PEOPLE WHO ARE IN NEED. THANK YOU. >> THINK YOU, COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE. ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? >> THANK YOU. I TOTALLY APPRECIATE YOUR CONCERNS IN THAT REGARD. I SEE THIS AS DOING SOMETHING SIMILAR. IT WOULD REALLY PROVIDE SOME RELIEF TO OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY OF THE BURDEN OF TRYING TO GO THROUGH THE TRESPASSING PROCESS IN THE LEGAL PROCESS OF DOING THOSE THINGS. IT JUST PROVIDES FOR A MORE EXPEDITIOUS WAY FOR THEM TO OPERATE THEIR BUSINESSES. I DO APPRECIATE YOUR SENSITIVITY TO IT AND I THINK WE ARE ALL SENSITIVE AND WANTTO CONTINUE TO WORK TOWARDS SOLUTIONS IN THIS REGARD. THANK YOU. >> I, TOO, AM SENSITIVE TO OUR POPULATION. WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT NOT ANALYZING THE STATUS OF INDIVIDUALS BUT BECAUSE THIS IS SPECIFICALLY DIRECTED TO PRIVATE PROPERTY, I DON'T HAVE A MAJOR CONCERN WITH IT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? HEARING THEM. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, LET IT BE KNOWN BY SAYING I AYE. ANY OPPOSITION? COMMISSIONER MADDOX? >> I VOTE AYE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> MR. COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. >> THANK YOU. NOMINATIONS TO THE GOVERNOR OF SERVICES. THE ITEM SEEKS THE BOARD'S NOMINATION OF ELIGIBLE APPLICANTS BE FORWARDED THE GOVERNOR FOR VACANT SEATS. THE BOARD IS REQUIRED TO SUBMIT THE NAMES OF AT LEAST THREE PERSONS FOR EACH VACANCY. THE BOARD HAD PREVIOUSLY SUBMITTED NINE NOMINATIONS FOR THE FREE AGENCIES BUT ON DECEMBER 13th, THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE REQUESTED A NEW LIST OF CANDIDATES. YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU THE OLD LIST OF NINE AS WELL AS A NEW LIST OF WHAT WAS 10 BUT WE DISTRIBUTED AN ADDITIONAL ONE THAT WE GOT IN JUST VERY RECENTLY TO MAKE THAT 11. THE BOARD HAS THE OPPORTUNITY WITH ELIGIBLE APPLICANTS BEFORE YOU TO SUBMIT ANY NUMBER OF THOSE APPLICANTS FOR THE GOVERNOR'S CONSIDERATION. >> THANK YOU. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO AS A MEMBER OF THE CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL, I WOULD LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> HOLD ON, PLEASE. HOLD ON, PLEASE. WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER ON THE ITEM. >> I'M VERY SORRY. NOT SURE IF THEY ARE STILL WITH US. >> SORRY ABOUT THAT. >> APPRECIATE IT. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR LETTING ME SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE. I REALLY WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE HARD WORK THAT YOU DO. I THINK I HAVE BENEFITED FROM THIS DISCUSSION AROUND ITEM 27. I COME TO YOU TODAY AS A PRIVATE CITIZEN OF DISTRICT FIVE. TYPICALLY, I COME TO SPEAK TO GROUPS ON BEHALF OF OTHERS AND ORGANIZATIONS. THIS IS UNUSUAL FOR ME BUT I COME TO SPEAK ON MY OWN BEHALF. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU TO INCLUDE MY NAME TO YOUR NOMINEES. BOTH OF US WERE PREVIOUSLY NOMINATED BY THIS BODY AND ARE IN THAT LIST THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU FROM THE LAST ROUND. I WANT TO TAKE A COUPLE MOMENTS TO HIGHLIGHT SOME THINGS THAT ARE ON MY APPLICATION. A FEW THINGS THAT ARE NOT CAPTURED ON MY APPLICATION. I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON YOUTH EMPOWERMENT ORGANIZATIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND FAMILY SUPPORT FOR OVER 20 YEARS. I AM A RETURNED PEACE CORPS VOLUNTEER FROM UKRAINE AND I STAYED ON TO SUPPORT AN ORPHANAGE IN THEIR DEVELOPMENT. I AM A KIDNEY DONOR, A FATHER. I'VE SERVED AS A FOSTER PARENT IN THIS COMMUNITY. I'VE BEEN A READING POWELL FOR MANY YEARS AND I HAVE WORKED FOR THE LAST FOUR DAYS COACHING AND SUPPORTING YOUTH THAT OF AGE THAT A FOSTER CARE OR EXPERIENCED HOMELESSNESS. THEY COME FROM ALL OVER THE STATE. I AM A MENTOR FROM THE CHAPTER AND I SPENT THE LAST TWO DAYS MEETING WITH OVER 50 OF OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS ACROSS THE STREET ADVOCATING FOR CHANGE, NOT FOR THEMSELVES BUT FOR THEIR PEERS. >> IN PREVIOUS ROUNDS, I HAD RECOMMENDATION OF THE FORMER DEAN FROM THE COLLEGE OF SOCIAL WORK. YOU HAVE TO SET UP THE COUNCIL, I CURRENTLY WORK ON PROJECTS TO INCLUDE A CHILD WELFARE SYSTEM ACROSS THE STATE. I HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING THE COUNCIL FROM THE BEGINNING, ATTENDING FORUMS, OPEN HOUSES, AND I REALIZED IN WAITING FOR THE GOVERNOR'S APPOINTMENT THAT THERE WAS NO REASON I COULD NOT ATTEND THE BOARD READINGS AS A PRIVATE CITIZEN SO I'VE BEEN DOING THAT FOR THE LAST. I THINK THAT IS VERY HELP FOR ME TO CURE THE OTHER CONVERSATION THAT WAS HERE TONIGHT. I HAVE APPLIED OPEN SEATS SINCE THE COUNCILS. I DON'T KNOW THE OTHER CANDIDATES ON THE LIST BUT THE NAMES THAT ARE FAMILIAR ARE ALL GOOD CANDIDATES. I AM HERE TO ASK FOR MYSELF, JOHN SHEETS, AND THE CURRENT CHAIR. I INVITE YOU TO ASK ME ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE, AN HOUR LATER. I AM READY TO SERVE. >> THANK YOU, MR. SHEETS FOR COMING. WE APPRECIATE IT. >> I DO NOT THINK ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS. >> I AM SORRY. >> I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE TABLE 2. THOSE PERSONS WHO WERE PREVIOUSLY SUBMITTED TO OUR GOVERNOR'S OFFICE. I BELIEVE IF I READ RIGHT, STAFF, PLEASE CORRECT ME. THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE REFUSED TO DO ANYTHING WITHIN THE 4-5 DAY WINDOW WHICH THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO AND WAITED FIVE MONTHS. WHEN THEY WAITED FIVE MONTHS, THEY ASKED OR A NEW PRESENTATION OF NAMES. WE SENT PEOPLE'S NAMES WITH GOOD CITIZENS LIKE MR. SHEETS TO QUALIFY. WAS THE GOVERNOR TURNING DOWN? CITIZENS OF OUR COMMUNITY TO SERVE ON OUR CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL. PEOPLE THAT WE KNOW, YOU KNOW, I KNOW. I LIKE TO SEND THE SAME NAMES BACK UP THERE BECAUSE WE'VE GOT NO RESPONSE. >> LET'S GET A SECOND. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. THIS IS THE PROBLEM WITH DEMOCRACY. WE HAD A CONGRESSMAN REPRESENT IN OUR AREA. LEGISLATURE RECOMMENDED THAT A SENSE OF DREW MAPS THAT ALLOWED US TO CONTINUE TO BE CONGRESSIONAL. DECIDE TO CALL A SPECIAL SESSION INPUT FORTH HIS MATH OF WHICH HE IS NOT THE STATES. HERE WE ARE, HE TOOK AWAY OUR CONGRESSMAN. 90% OF THE PEOPLE IN DISTRICT ONE VOTED. HE TOOK THAT AWAY. WE ARE TELLING THEM THESE ARE THE NAMES THAT WE WANT AND HE CAN. THIS IS WHY I DID NOT SUPPORT THE COUNCIL, INITIALLY AND STOOD WITH THOSE WHO OPPOSED IT BECAUSE THE GOVERNOR , THE STATE IS PUTTING THE MONEY INTO THIS BUT GETS TO MAKE FIVE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS. IT IS TOTALLY INCONSISTENT. IN FACT, WHAT HE IS DOING IS THE VERY REASON WE HAVE THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION. HOW DOES GREAT BRITAIN GET TO TATE WHO IS GOING TO LEAD US COLONIES IN LAMB COUNTY? LEON COUNTY. WE ARE SENDING NAMES TO GREAT BRITAIN AND GREAT BRITAIN IS REFUSING TO OFFER IT. WE DON'T WANT THESE. THESE ARE NOT GOOD ENOUGH. I WILL SAY THEY ARE GOOD ENOUGH AND STAND BY THE SHEET OF PAPER. IN OUR FAULT OF THE GOVERNOR DON'T WANT THEM. WE WANT THESE PEOPLE AND I THINK WE SHOULD STANDBY WILL BE SAID THE FIRST TIME. AN EXPLANATION ON ANYTHING. THEY TOOK FIVE MONTHS INSTEAD OF 45 DAYS TO PROVE. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO, COMMISSIONERS. SINCE I AM YOUR REPRESENTATIVE ON THE COUNCIL, THE STATUTE SAYS WE NEED TO SEND A MINIMUM OF THREE. IT DOES NOT GIVE US THE MAXIMUM. I WOULD LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A SUBSTITUTE MOTION TO SUBMIT BOTH IN ADDITION TO DR. DAVID ON ADDITIONAL APPLICANTS. I LIKE TO USE THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION TO SEND BOTH LIST. THANK YOU. >> I WOULD MAKE THAT MOTION. >> IS THERE A SECOND? >> I WOULD MAKE THAT MOTION, MADAM CHAIR. >> THANK YOU. IS THERE A SECOND? THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSIONS? >> ANOTHER BROKEN RECORD. I'M OING TO END UP RESPECTFULLY OPPOSING THIS BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME NAMES THAT I DO NOT BELIEVE WOULD BE IN THE BEST INTEREST. JUST A LITTLE EXPLANATION FOR WHAT IS COMING. >> CLARIFICATION. SOME ON THE SECOND LIST IS WHAT YOU ARE SAYING? ANY OTHER COMMENT? >> OKAY. ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION WHICH IS TO SEND BOTH LIST TO THE GOVERNOR IN ADDITION TO THE LAST APPLICANT , DR. BELLAMY? >> OTHERS IN FAVOR, LET IT BE KNOWN BY SAYING AYE. COMMISSIONER MADDOX, ARE YOU THERE? >> ANY OPPOSITION? >> COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE, COMMISSIONER MINOR. >> I HAVE POSED AS WELL. >> I THOUGHT YOU WERE A MOTION. >> WITH THE ORIGINAL LIST. >> RE-ELECTED THE SERVICE. TO SERVE OUR COUNTY IN MAKING THESE RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE BOARD THAT WE 100% FUND. >> THANK YOU. MR. COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. >> ITEM NUMBER 30, SEEKS TO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMITTEE AND THE UNAFFORDABLE FOR QUALITY GROWTH. THE ITEM SEEKS OR RECOMMENDS OPTIONS 1-2. WITH THE APPOINTMENT OF ELIGIBLE APPLICANTS WHICH SATISFIED. >> SECOND. >> THANK YOU. >> MR. CHAIR, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION OF THOSE IN FAVOR, LET IT BE KNOWN BY SAYING AYE. ANY OPPOSITION ? >> ADMINISTRATORS, THAT CONCLUDES THE AGENDA. >> THANK YOU. NOW WE WILL GO TO IF THERE IS ANY COMMENTS FROM MY COUNTY ATTORNEY. >> WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER UNDER CITIZENS TO BE HEARD ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS. KAREN PREACHER. >> THANK YOU, MISS PREACHER. >> GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME TONIGHT. I AM HERE ABOUT AIRBNB'S AND NEIGHBORHOODS. I RECENTLY HAD ONE THAT IS BEEN PLACED RIGHT NEXT TO MY TOWN HALL. THEY HAVE BEEN OPERATING LESS THAN A MONTH AND IN THAT MONTH, WE'VE HAD LOUD NOISES ALL NIGHT, DOGS BARKING ALL DAY AND ALL NIGHT. OTHER ISSUES, PARKING, UNABLE TO GET OUR CARS OUT. FIREWORKS. THIS WAS NOT NEW YEAR'S. THIS WAS OVER A WEEK LATER. ONE OF THE ANIMALS WAS MANAGED TO GET ON TOP OF A TABLE. THIS MAKES A SERIES OF STRESS AND A PROBLEM. AS A COMMUNITY, SOME KINDS OF REGULATIONS AROUND THESE THINGS SO THAT WE CAN PRESERVE THE INTEGRITY OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE OUR CITIZENS LIVE AND I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE COUNTY COMMISSION TO LOOK INTO SOME THINGS LIKE THAT. MAYBE WORK WITH THE CITY AND COME ON THE SAME PAGE ABOUT THIS. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MISS PREACHER. ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? >> NO. >> THANK YOU. NOW WE ARE AT COMMISSION COMMENTS. COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE? >> I'M SORRY. MADAM COUNTY ATTORNEY ? >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I DO HAVE ONE ITEM FOR THE BOARD THIS EVENING. THE LEON COUNTY BOARD AT ITS MEETING AND I WAS NOTIFIED THAT THE BOARD HAS REQUESTED, AS IT HAS IN THE TWO PREVIOUS ELECTION CYCLES, THAT I REPRESENT THE CANVASSING BOARD IN THE UPCOMING ELECTION CYCLE. I'M TAKING DIRECTION FROM THE BOARD WHETHER THEY WISH TO PROVIDE ME THAT REPRESENTATION OR, ALTERNATIVELY, IF TIME DEMANDS AND CONSTRAINTS, DICTATE -- GIVE ME AUTHORITY TO HIRE COUNSEL TO REPRESENT THE CANVASSING BOARD. THANK YOU. >> SECOND. >> MOVED. >> MADAM CHAIR, I CAN TESTIFY TO THE COUNTY SKILL AT REPRESENTING THE CANVASSING BOARD VERY WELL. SHE IS A TRUE PROFESSIONAL. >> THANK YOU. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, LET IT BE KNOWN BY SAYING AYE. ANY OPPOSITION? COMMISSIONER MADDOX? >> AYE. >> AYE. YOU HAVE IT, MADAM ATTORNEY. >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO THE BOARD. STORM RECAP, I KNOW IT FEELS LIKE A YEAR AGO BUT SINCE LAST TIME WE MET, I WANTED TO GIVE A BIG THANKS TO COUNTY STAFF RELATED TO THE VERY SEVERE SQUALL THAT CAME THROUGH. EVEN THOUGH WE RECOVERED VERY QUICKLY, THERE COUNTY ROADS . AGAIN, LOOKING FOR US AND COMMUNITY, VERY LITTLE STRUCTURAL DAMAGE AND NO LOSS OF LIFE WHICH IS THE BIG THING. OF COURSE, WE CONTINUE TO LEARN FROM EACH ONE OF THESE. FINALLY, LEGISLATIVE SESSION. I WANTED TO, VERY QUICKLY, I ASKED TO BE PREPARED TONIGHT BUT I AM SENSITIVE AT THE LENGTH OF THE MEETING COMPARED TO A QUICK UPDATE. I WILL GIVE IT FOR HER IF YOU WOULD LIKE AND JUST KNOW THAT SHE IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. WE ARE THREE WEEKS INTO SESSION, OR AS NIKKI CALLS IT, THE FIRST PRIMARY. IN THAT TIME, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF BAD BILLS FILED. THAT ARE GOING TO IMPACT COUNTY REVENUES BUT POTENTIALLY, OBVIOUSLY THERE ISSUES THAT WE ARE PAYING A LOT OF ATTENTION TO. YOU WILL GET YOUR UPDATES ON EVERY FRIDAY THROUGHOUT. WERE ALWAYS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. CALLING UPON YOU THROUGHOUT SESSION WE NEED YOU TO PIGEON. UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, WE ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM. BUT IF THAT IS IT, THAT IS THE REPORT. >> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER MINOR? >> I'M SORRY. COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE. >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I ONLY HAVE ONE ITEM TONIGHT. IT HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THAT IT MIGHT BE TIME TO RECONSIDER INCREASING THE BENEFITS WE OFFER FOR PARENTAL LEAVE FOR LEON COUNTY EMPLOYEES. WE HAVE GENERALLY STAYED ABOVE THE CURVE ON THAT BUT IN THE PAST YEARS, THE STATE OF FLORIDA CAME AND SNUCK UP ON US AND THE STATE OF FLORIDA HAS A GENEROUS RENTAL THE POLICY. I DON'T THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. I SPOKE WITH REPRESENTATIVES FROM A COUNSEL ABOUT IT AND THEY ARE ACTUALLY, AS A COUNSEL, DEVELOPING IMMUNITY BEST PRACTICES FOR EMPLOYER PARENTAL LEAVE POLICIES. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ASK STAFF TO BRING BACK A RECOMMENDED IMPROVED PARENTAL LEAVE POLICY FOR OUR EMPLOYEES WITH INPUT FROM THE REPORT OR INFORMATION FROM THE COUNCIL AND THE STATUS OF WOMEN AND GIRLS. >> IS THERE SECOND? >> THANK YOU. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, LET IT BE KNOWN BY SAYING AYE. >> COMMISSIONER MADDOX? >> THANK YOU. ANYTHING FURTHER, COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE? >> I HOPE MY WIFE DOESN'T PUSH ME TO HAVE MORE KIDS NOW. THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER MINOR. >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I THINK A LOT OF US HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO SEE SOME OF THE EVENTS THAT TOOK PLACE LAST WEEK. I WAS REALLY IMPRESSED WITH THE THINGS THAT DJ IS DOING FOR THE COMMUNITY. HE HAD BEEN DOING IT FOR SO MANY YEARS. BUT I WANTED TO DO WITH ACTUALLY SEEK A MOTION FOR A PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING FOR HIS WORK AND THE WHAT HE BRINGS TO THE COMMUNITY. ONE THING THAT DJ TOLD ME WAS THAT THE CITY HAS PROVIDED HIM WITH THREE PROCLAMATIONS OVER THE YEARS AND THAT LEON COUNTY HAS PROVIDED BUCKETS. RIGHT NOW, IT'S 3-0. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THIS MOTION FOR A PROCLAMATION BUT AS AN ADDENDUM, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE FOUR COPIES OF THIS PROCLAMATION MADE UP SO THAT WE'VE GOT FOUR IN THE CITY'S GOT THREE. IT IS UNACCEPTABLE THAT THE CITY IS LEADING THIS 3-0. THAT IS THE MOTION. >> THANK YOU. IS THERE A SECOND? >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, LET IT BE KNOWN BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. COMMISSIONER MADDOX? >> AYE. >> THANK YOU. >> IF YOU REMEMBER FROM THE TREE YESTERDAY, I MENTIONED BRIEFLY ABOUT A COUPLE THINGS I WANTED TO BRING TO THIS BODY FOR THIS MEETING. ONE, I TALKED ABOUT THE ELECTRIC VEHICLES THAT WE'VE GOT. THE COUNTY IS DOING A GOOD JOB. WE PLEDGED TO HAVE 30% OF OUR VEHICLE FLEET GOING EV BY 2030 BUT SINCE THIS WAS MADE, THE MARKET IS CHANGED IN EV'S A BIT. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS ASK THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND HIS TEAM TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT THE ADJUSTING MARKET IS AND SEE IF WE CAN BE MORE AGGRESSIVE ON THE TRANSITION TO ELECTRIC VEHICLES FOR LIGHT VEHICLE DUTIFULLY. RECOGNIZING THAT WE WILL PROBABLY NEVER GET TO 100% BECAUSE FOR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, OUR VEHICLES, WE NEED A CERTAIN NUMBER OF THEM TO BE FUEL BASED SO IF WE HAVE EXTENDED POWER OUTAGES, WE DON'T RUN THE RISK OF NOT HAVING ENOUGH VEHICLES FOR TRANSPORTING OUR EMPLOYEES. I RECOGNIZE THAT. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE OUR ADMINISTRATOR DIRECT HIS TEAM TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT WE COULD DO TO ACCELERATE THAT THE VEHICLE THAT WE'VE GOT AND BRING THAT BACK TO A TIME THAT IS SUITABLE. THAT IS MY MOTION. >> THANK YOU. IT IS YOUR MOTION FOR THE AGENDA ITEM TO COME BACK. IS THERE A SECOND? >> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, LET IT BE KNOWN BY SAYING AYE. ANY OPPOSITION? MISSION OR MADDOX? >> OKAY. I VOTE AYE. >> THE NEXT THING , I TALKED ABOUT THE SUSTAINABILITY OF IT POLICY THAT WE HAD. WE DO A GOOD JOB WITH THAT. WE GOT A GREEN EVENTS CHECKLIST THAT IS AVAILABLE ONLINE ON OUR WEBSITE. IT ALLOWS PEOPLE WHO ENGAGE WITH THE COUNTY ON EVENTS TO GO THROUGH THAT AND MAKE THEIR EVENTS MORE SUSTAINABLE. THE CITY IS DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB AS WELL. GOT A RIGID, ROBUST SUSTAINABILITY OF IT POLICY. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF WE COULD TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT WE COULD DO WITH OUR EXISTING POLICY WITHOUT HAVING AN EVEN MORE ROBUST SUSTAINABILITY EVENT POLICY. I UNDERSTAND AND AM ASSUMING IT ALREADY HAS. WE NEED TO WORK WITH THE CONSTRAINTS OF THE CONTRACT BUT THERE MAY BE OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO, NUMBER ONE, UPGRADE OUR EVENT POLICY AND SEE WHERE IT MIGHT APPLY TO THE 2026 WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS. MY MOTION IS TO BRING BACK AN AGENDA ITEM ALONG THOSE LINES. >> IS THERE A SECOND? >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, LET IT BE KNOWN BY SAYING AYE . >> AYE. >> THANK YOU. I VOTE AYE. >> THE LAST THING, I WANTED TO THANK OUR COUNTY STAFF FOR ORGANIZING WITH THE CITY, I BELIEVE, THE DAY THAT TOOK PLACE ON JANUARY 20th. THE TREEPLANTING EVENT. THAT WAS REALLY TERRIFIC. I THINK IT WAS OVER 120 TREES THAT WERE PLANTED. IT WAS VERY COLD IN THE MORNING BUT REALLY GREAT EFFORT. WITH A GREAT TURNOUT FROM THE PUBLIC. IF YOU DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO PARTICIPATE, CITIZENS CAN GO TO OUR LEON COUNTY WEBSITE AND BASICALLY, ADOPT A TREE. YOU CAN GO TO LEONCOUNTYFL.GOV. THERE ARE 2-3 TYPES OF TREES THAT YOU CAN PLANT IN YOUR PROPERTY HOME. LEONCOUNTYFL.GOV/ADOPTATREE. >> THANK YOU. IT FEELS GOOD TO BE BACK IN THE SWING. WE HAD TWO BACK TO BACK MEETINGS. I ENJOYED SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAD. I DON'T HAVE TOO MUCH. I JUST WANT TO GIVE A QUICK THANK YOU TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTERED HER AND STAFF. THERE WAS A COUPLE OF DISTRICT 2 ITEMS IN CONSENT. I WAS HAPPY TO SEE THOSE. ALSO, I WANT TO GIVE A QUICK SHOUT OUT TO SDOT AT THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION. THEY HAVE REALLY BEEN DOING SOME EXTENSIVE WORK IN DISTRICT 2. HIGHWAY 20, CAPITAL CIRCLE SOUTHWEST . THEY ARE CONTINUING TO INVEST IN DISTRICT 2 AND I APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS. THAT IS ALL I GOT. THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER PROCTOR? >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS. WHAT A GREAT COMMISSION. I ENJOY WORKING WITH YOU. WE ARE A GREAT COMMISSION. MADAM CHAIR, WE APPRECIATE THE LEADERSHIP, THE THINGS THAT WE ACCOMPLISHED. AMONG THOSE THINGS IS THAT WE ASK TO GIVE SOME DIRECTION TO COUNTY STAFF AT LOOKING AT NATIONAL FOREST AND SECURING. IT WAS INTERESTING TONIGHT THAT WE HEARD WHERE THE STATE GAVE LEON COUNTY THE GREEN LIGHT. THERE IS PRESIDENT OF THE STATE OF GIVING THE CHARGE OF LAND. THERE IS ALSO PRESIDENT FOR THE GOVERNMENT. ONCE WE LEFT THAT MEETING, I DID A LITTLE DIGGING. PUBLIC LAW 110-343. THERE ARE FIVE COUNTIES IN FLORIDA THAT RECEIVE PAYMENTS WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PAYS THEM BECAUSE OF HIGH PERCENTAGE OF FOREST OCCUPIES AND TAKES UP THEIR LAND. THAT IS FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. WE HAVE 20% OF OUR LOCAL PROPERTIES IN LEON COUNTY OCCUPIED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. I THINK THAT WE WOULD BE WELL ADVISED TO PURSUE THIS MEASURE BUT IS ALREADY ON THE BOOKS CALLED SECURE. I LOOKED AT THE SOUTHERN REGION FOR OUR FOREST THAT THE GOVERNMENT PUTS THEIR NAME ON AS CLAIMING. WE'VE GOT APALACHICOLA NATIONAL FOREST, THE ONE THAT OCCUPIES OUR STATE. WE HAVE THE NATIONAL FOREST IN FLORIDA. WE HAVE EIGHT SIGNIFICANT STATE. WE NEED TO LOOK INTO PUBLIC LAW 110-343 TO FIND OUT WHAT IS AVAILABLE IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT SO MUCH. >> COMMISSIONERS, I APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE CALL FOR AN OFFICIAL APOLOGY. FOR WEEK TWO ADOPT AND DO SOMETHING TONIGHT FOR FURTHERING THAT APOLOGY. IT'S JUST GOING TO COME BACK AT SOME POINT OR WHAT? >> MADAM CHAIR, IT WAS IN YOUR RATIFICATION YESTERDAY. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> I WANTED TO ASK IF WE CAN GET AN UPDATE ON THE COMMUNITY INVESTMENT ACT? I JUST CANNOT REMEMBER. 2004-5. WE HAD A CHANCE TO SEE WHAT WERE DOING WITH RESPECT TO LOANS, NEW MORTGAGES. WHERE THEY WERE SENDING MONEY IN THE COMMUNITY REINVESTMENT ACT. IT ENTITLED US TO A PEEP AT WHAT THEY ARE DOING. IT GIVES A DEMOGRAPHIC BREAKDOWN OF THE APPLICANT BY RACE, GENDER, AND SOME OTHER THINGS. I THINK THAT THE BOARD WOULD BE WELL ADVISED TO KNOW IF OUR BANKS ARE BEING FAIR AND REFLECTING IN THEIR LOANS . AREAS IN WHICH THEY RECEIVE DEPOSITS. >> MR. ADMINISTERED RATER, THIS IS GOING TO BE SHORT. CAN WE GET SOME LIGHTS ON CRAWFORD BILL HIGHWAY SOUTH OF WILSON GREEN? AND INSIDE THE URBAN SERVICES AREA, WE ARE STILL A LITTLE DARK. I INVITE ANY AND ALL OF YOU TO COME DOWN. I WOULD DO ANYTHING LEGAL TO SECURE SOME LIGHTS FOR ROAD FROM WILSON GREEN NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THEN FINALLY, I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO TO GET STARTED FOR CITIZENS INSIDE THE URBAN SERVICES AREA. I DO NOT KNOW IF I NEED A MOTION, MADAM ATTORNEY. BUT CAN WE DO TO INSTIGATE, INVESTIGATE, TO SOMEHOW AGITATE -- WHAT DO WE DO TO GET THE PEOPLE IN THAT AREA TO BE BROUGHT TO A STANDARD? A HEALTH STANDARD EQUAL TO MOST OF THE COMMUNITY AT TEMPORARY AGE? WHAT WOULD YOU RECOMMEND THAT WE DO TO GET CENTRAL PIPES INSIDE THE URBAN SERVICES AREA TO COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE TO PUT THEIRS IN THE BACKYARD? >> DO YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THAT? >> SURE. WE ARE HAPPY TO BRING SOMETHING BACK. WE WILL CHECK WITH THE CITY TO BRING BACK. >> DO YOU NEED A MOTION? >> THAT WOULD BE GREAT. IF YOU COULD TIE THE CRA ITEM TOO. I WILL CHECK INTO THAT, MR. PROCTOR AND GET BACK TO YOU. >> YESTERDAY -- >> LET'S DO A MOTION. >> I AM SO MOVED. >> ON THE COMMUNITY REINVESTMENT ACT AND INSIDE THE URBAN SERVICES. IS THERE A SECOND? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, LET IT BE KNOWN BY SAYING AYE. ANY OPPOSITION? COMMISSIONER? >> AYE. >> YESTERDAY, THE DEBT SERVICE SCHEDULE THAT OUR COMMISSION CAN RECEIVE ON OUR CURRENT DEBTS IS GOING TO EXPIRE AND THE MONIES THAT WE ARE PUTTING OUT INTERMITTENTLY FOR SERVICES OF DEBT, I THINK WE DESERVE -- MAYBE THEY CAN BE INCORPORATED IN OUR BUDGET. >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. >> THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER MADDOX? >> YES, MA'AM. >> I WANT TO REQUEST A PROCLAMATION ON THE HALF -- EXCUSE MY SON. HE IS SUPPOSED TO BE SICK. THE NATIONAL MS SOCIETY SUGGESTED A PROCLAMATION FOR MARCH BE NATIONAL MS MONTH. THEY WANT TO BE PRESENTED AT THE MARCH MEETING. MADAM CHAIR, THAT IS MY MOTION AND THAT IS ALL I HAVE. >> IS THERE SECOND? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE? NO OPPOSITION? >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MADDOX. THAT IS IT. >> THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER WELCH? >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I WANTED TO CALL YOUR ATTENTION AND ITEM THAT WAS ON CONSENT. IN REGARDS TO AMBULANCE PLACEMENT AT THE FIRE STATION ON CENTERVILLE ROAD WITH LIFE-SAVING CAPABILITIES, FIXED PLACEMENT. THIS IS A BIG WIN FOR THE FOLKS IN THAT CORRIDOR. THE ONLY RURAL FIRE STATION THAT DID NOT HAVE A PERMANENT ADVANCED LIFE-SAVING CAPABILITY. THIS WAS A BIG LIFT BY THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR IN COOPERATION WITH THE CITY OF. I WANT TO THANK THEM IN THE FIRE CHIEF FOR GET THAT DONE. THAT WAS ON OUR CONSENT AGENDA EARLIER. THANK YOU TO MADAM CHAIR FOR LETTING ME HANG OUT ON THE OPENING REMARKS CIRCUIT LAST WEEK. I WAS ABLE TO GO TO THE VISIT TALLAHASSEE MARKETING ROLLOUT AS WELL AS THE ORCHESTRA PERFORMANCE ON SUNDAY AND DELIVER SOME OPENING REMARKS ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY. BOTH EXCELLENT EVENTS. DID A GREAT JOB WITH THE MARKETING ROLE. PERFECTLY APPROPRIATE VENUE FOR OUR 200 YEAR CENTENNIAL KICKOFF FOR OUR RESTAURANT FOLKS. WE GOT A GREAT AGENDA SCHEDULED FOR MARKETING AND VISITING IN THIS NEXT YEAR. THE TALLAHASSEE SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA, I DO NOT KNOW IF ANYBODY THOUGHT. IT WAS INCREDIBLE. DARRELL JONES RECITING THE WORDS OF ABRAHAM LINCOLN IN THAT VOICE OF HIS OVER THAT MUSIC. IT WAS IN CREDIBLY POWERFUL STUFF. I WANTED TO CONGRATULATE THE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER JONES, NUMBER ONE, WITH AN ABSOLUTELY NOTABLE PERFORMANCE AS WELL AS THE SYMPATHY ORCHESTRA. I AM NOT MUCH OF A SYMPHONY GUY. I TELL YOU WHAT, I WAS TOTALLY CAPTIVATED AS I SAT THERE IN THE CONCERT HALL AND LISTENED WITH A WONDERFUL VISUAL HISTORY OF TALLAHASSEE AND STUFF GOING ON IN THE BACKGROUND. ALSO, I WANTED TO THINK CONGRESS AND NEIL WHO I MET WITH THIS AFTERNOON ABOUT SERVICE ISSUES. I'M NOT IMMUNE TO THE IDEA THAT THERE ARE ISSUES ALL OVER THE COUNTY. I WOULD ENCOURAGE ANY OF YOU IF YOU HAVE CONCERNS WITH THAT. HE IS EQUALLY CONCERNED WITH THAT. WE'VE GOT SOME REAL CHRONIC ALBUMS IN DISTRICT FOR. AND THEN CONGRATULATIONS TO ROB CLARK ON BEING THE NEW CHAMBER CHAIR. I WAS ABLE TO GO TO THE BREAKFAST WITH COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE AND COMMISSIONER MINOR THIS WEEK. OTHER THAN THA, I THINK THAT IS ALL I GOT. MADAM CHAIR, THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> THANK YOU. I WANT TO THANK OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR IN ALL OF HIS REMARKABLE STAFF. ALL THAT THEY DO. THE PRESENTATION AT THE COUNTY RETREAT AND I WANT TO THANK ALL OF MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS FOR YOUR INPUT AND COOPERATION ON DOING THAT RETREAT AS WELL AS YOUR INPUT TONIGHT. I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LONG MEETING BUT WE HAD SOME IMPORTANT ISSUES THAT WERE VERY IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY AND I THINK WE WERE ABLE TO LISTEN TO THE PUBLIC, LISTEN TO THE VOTERS, LISTEN TO THE CITIZENS. I BELIEVE WE HAVE RESOLUTIONS WE CAN LIVE WITH GOING FORWARD. THANK YOU, ALL. I APPRECIATE THE NATURE OF OUR COMMISSION . I WANT TO THANK MY CO-CHAIR, COMMISSIONER WELCH. I REALLY HAD LOOK FORWARD TO A LOT OF THOSE EVENTS, ESPECIALLY THE SYMPHONIC -- DOING THE GRADING. HE DOES NOT KNOW THAT I PLAYED IN THE SYMPHONIC BAND IN COLLEGE. I LOVE SYMPHONY MUSIC. I PLAN TO BE THERE. OTHER EVENTS THAT HE STEPPED IN FOR ME ON LAST WEEK. I APPRECIATE IT. IT IS GOOD TO HAVE A GOOD CO-CHAIR. MOSTLY, I HAD A REALLY SERIOUS EVENT TUESDAY. I TOTALED MY CAR. I AM JUST BLESSED TO BE HERE. THANK YOU, GUYS, FOR THE PHONE CALLS AND YOUR PRAYERS. MY CAR, YOU CAN SEE WHY I AM SAYING I AM REALLY BLESSED TO BE HERE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> MADAM CHAIR, I WILL REPRESENT YOU AT YOLANDA ADAMS IF YOU DON'T FEEL LIKE GOING TO SEE YOLANDA, I WILL BACK YOU UP ON THAT ONE. >> THANK YOU. >> I WANT TO THANK, ALSO, COMMISSIONER PROCTOR. EVERY YEAR, THE MLK CELEBRATION IN THE ROTUNDA DOWNSTAIRS AT THE COUNTY COURTHOUSE. WE HAD A DUTIFUL SERVICE ON MLK DAY. THE WEEK BEFORE, THE WEDNESDAY BEFORE. WE HAD EIGHT REMARKABLE SPEAKER , SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER. HE IS ALSO A MEMBER OF THE CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL. HE DID A REMARKABLE JOB AS OUR GUEST SPEAKER. I JUST WANT TO THANK COMMISSIONER PROCTOR FOR ALWAYS SPEARHEADING THAT EVENT. BRINGING US TOGETHER. REMINDING US OF JUSTICE AND EQUALITY THROUGHOUT HIS LIFETIME AND IF HE CONTINUES TO INVIGORATE US TO WORK TOWARDS THOSE. I ALSO WANT TO ASK THE BOARD FOR THE SUPPORT IN SPONSORING A SYMPOSIUM DURING BLACK HISTORY MONTH. WE KNOW THAT BLACK HISTORY MONTH IS COMING UP IN FEBRUARY. TEACHING OUR OWN HISTORY IS SCHEDULED TO BE HELD ON FEBRUARY 26th THROUGH THE 27th. IT IS SLATED TO PRESENT WHICH IMPORTANT AND FACTUALLY CORRECT HISTORY ABOUT AFRICAN AMERICANS IN OUR COUNTRY IN LEON COUNTY. THAT INFORMATION WILL BE INCORPORATED INTO THE CURRICULUM OF OUR SCHOOLCHILDREN. I AM SEEKING THE BOARD SUPPORT FOR $15,000 FROM THE CONTINGENCY FUND. BETH ADAPTED METHODIST CHURCH IS HOSTING IT. SOME OF THE LEADING HISTORIANS AND SCHOLARS WILL BE COMING IN THAT WEEKEND MAKING PRESENTATIONS. NOW, THEY DID THE SAME REQUEST FOR THE CITY. THEY ARE ASKING THE CITY COMMISSION, THEY HAVE ASKED THE CITY COMMISSION FOR 15,000. THE CITY COMMISSION HAS ALREADY AGREED TO, VOTED, AND APPROVED 15,000 FOR THIS VERY, VERY SIGNIFICANT SYMPOSIUM AND IT WILL TAKE PLACE THE WHOLE WEEKEND. >> I'M SORRY. >> ARE YOU PASSING THE GAVEL TO MAKE A MOTION OR ARE YOU PASSING OR ASKING -- >> OKAY. I AM ASKING SOMEBODY ELSE. >> SINCE IT IS NOT ON THE PUBLIC AGENDA, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO WEIGH IN THE RULES TO CONSIDER A SPONSORSHIP OF THIS REQUEST IN TEACHING OUR OWN HISTORY. I RECOGNIZE THAT IT REQUIRES A UNANIMOUS VOTE BY THE BOARD. . OBLIGATED THEIR FUNDING. THANK YOU. IS THERE A SECOND? >> THANK YOU. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF WAIVING THE RULES, LET IT BE KNOWN BY SAYING AYE . THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE A COUNTER ATTORNEY TO APPROVE A BUDGET AMENDMENT. I CAN MAKE THE MOTION. LET ME SAY IT THIS WAY. I WOULD LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TOAUTHORIZE A COUNTY ATTORNEY TO APPROVE A BUDGET AMENDMENT IN THE AMOUNT OF $15,000 FROM THE BOARD'S GENERAL CONTINGENCY FUND. TO SPONSOR THIS VERY SIGNIFICANT SYMPOSIUM TEACHING OUR OWN HISTORY. >> MADAM CHAIR, I MADE THE MOTION THAT WE WILL TAKE $18,000 OUT OF OUR AGENCY FUND TO SPONSOR THIS EVENT. THANK YOU. >> IS THERE A SECOND? >> I SECOND. >> END OF DISCUSSION, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE. >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I KNOW YOU SAID IT BUT I DID NOT CATCH IT. CAN YOU SPECIFY THE ORGANIZATION THAT THE SPONSORSHIP IS GOING FOR. >> IT IS CALLED -- IT IS SPONSORED BY THE BAPTIST CONVENTION -- LET ME SEE. I AM SORRY. OKAY, TEACHING OUR OWN HISTORY TASK FORCE. TEACHING OUR OWN HISTORY TASK FORCE. MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH WILL BE THE HOST CHURCH. THE HOST HOTEL IS THE SHERIDAN. THEY ARE EXPECTING SPEAKERS FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY WHO ARE EXPERTS IN HISTORY AND AFRICAN-AMERICAN HISTORY . LET'S SEE WHAT ELSE. THERE HAS ALREADY BEEN A TASK FORCE. THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR AN ENTIRE YEAR AND IT'S GOING TO CULMINATE IN FEBRUARY DURING BLACK HISTORY MONTH. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO SCHEDULE IT DURING THE MONTH OF BLACK HISTORY. I THINK IT IS SIGNIFICANT TOO, BECAUSE HERE IN TALLAHASSEE, WE ARE CELEBRATING 200 YEARS OF BEING IN EXISTENCE. TALLAHASSEE AND LEON COUNTY. ONE OF THE THINGS I HAVE DONE, WE HAVE BEEN ON THE. EMPHASIZING OUR HISTORY. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE SAYING IS THAT ALL OF OUR HISTORY IS IMPORTANT. THE GOOD, THE BAD, THE UGLY. IT IS ALL IMPORTANT. WE DO NOT WANT TO IGNORE ANY OF OUR HISTORY. THAT IS WHY THIS IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. SIGNIFICANT. TEACHING OUR OWN HISTORY IS THE NAME OF IT. IT IS A NATIONAL GROUP. I DO NOT SEE IT ON MY PAPERWORK. I AM SORRY. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE, I DO NOT SEE IT ON -- >> -- I HAVE A PROCEDURE QUESTION. THE UNANIMOUS IS REQUIRED FOR WHAT WE JUST DID TO WEIGH THE RULES. THIS BOAT WILL BE NORMAL MAJORITY. THIS COMING VOTE WON'T NEED TO BE UNANIMOUS? >> OH, OKAY. SINCE WE WAIVED THE RULE, WILL IT JUST BE MAJORITY? >> IN MY TIME HERE, THE BOARD HAS NEVER WAIVED THE BOARD POLICY OF REQUIRING THAT FOR A SUBSTITUTE MATTER TO BE CONSIDERED DURING COMMISSIONER TIME THAT IT NOT REQUIRE UNANIMOUS. THE BOARD IS WAIVE THAT REQUIREMENT. WE CAN DO IT ON HER MAJORITY IF IT WISHES. >> MAJORITY. >> WAIVING THE ROLE WAS TO WAIVE THAT PART? I AM CONFUSED. >> THAT IS WHAT YOUR MOTION WAS, WAS TO WEIGH THE RULES. THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. WHAT YOU THOUGHT YOU WERE MOTIONING? >> NOW, SHE IS SAYING -- IT IS A MAJORITY VOTE. IT IS JUST A MAJORITY VOTE, BASICALLY. >> I WILL SUPPORT THIS FOR YOU BUT I JUST HAVE A FEAR -- WE DON'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON THIS AND I KNOW THAT COMMISSIONER WELCH, LAST TIME WE DISCUSSED THAT THIS WAS GOING TO BE THE LAST TIME THAT WE DID THIS. I AM PARTIAL BECAUSE I WANT TO DO IT FOR YOU BUT I ALSO . I WILL DO IT FOR YOU BUT I JUST DON'T WANT -- I KNOW WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO YOU THAT I DON'T KNOW -- HOW DO WE GET TO A PLACE WHERE THIS DOES NOT KEEP POPPING UP WHERE WE ARE FORCED BETWEEN SUPPORTING A COLLEAGUE WITHOUT A LOT OF INFORMATION? DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? >> THAT DOES MAKE SENSE. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER CABAN . I UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS THAT DID NOT GET REQUESTED TO GO TO THE PROCESS. I DO NOT THINK THE CITY DID EITHER. TO ANSWER, COMMISSIONER CABAN'S QUESTION, IT IS UP HERE. THE BAPTIST CONVENTION INCORPORATED IS LIKE THE UMBRELLA GROUP THAT IS ADOPTED THIS. WE ARE IN A CAPITAL CITY AND WE HAVE TO LAUNCH AND KICKOFF HERE IN LEON COUNTY, TALLAHASSEE DOING BLACK HISTORY MONTH BUT DOING CELEBRATION TO. OKAY. >> MADAM CHAIR, I HATE THAT I GOT TO DO THIS BUT I CANNOT SUPPORT THIS. I SAID BEFORE, WE HAVE GOT TO HAVE SOME POLICY AND IT IS JUST NOT RESPONSIBLE, IN MY OPINION, TO BE PROPPING OUT 10-15, 20 $-25,000 REQUESTS FOR MONEY FOR NOT BEING CLEAR ON WHERE IT'S GOING. I REALLY APPRECIATE COMMISSIONER CABAN'S SENTIMENT . IT PUTS US IN A DIFFICULT POSITION AND WE'VE GOT TO DRAW THE LINE SOMEWHERE. I APOLOGIZE BUT I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THIS REQUEST. I WILL OFFER THIS, MADAM CHAIR. YOU SAID FEBRUARY 23rd? >> 26-27. >> OUR NEXT MEETING IS IN FEBRUARY. THE STAFF WANTS TO COME BACK WITH SOME ANALYSIS. WHAT IS GOING TO BE USED FOR, IS IT A LOCAL GROUP, NATIONAL GROUP. THESE ARE ALL VERY VALID QUESTIONS. I WOULD BE WILLING TO CONSIDER IT THEN BUT I CANNOT CONSIDER IT IN THIS MOMENT IN TIME. SORRY. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER WELCH. ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS? COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE. >> HAVE A COME BACK TO YOU. >> IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT PREVENTS US THAT ON THE AGENDA IN FEBRUARY SINCE THE EVENT COMES AFTER THE MEETING AND THE PROCEEDING OPPORTUNITIES WHEN WE HAVE DONE THIS, THE EVENT ACTUALLY. IF WE CAN CONSIDER HAVING THE AGENDA ITEM, THEN MAKE DECISIONS. AN OBLIGATION FOR THE FUNDING PRIOR TO THE EVENT SO THAT THERE CAN BE SOME PLANNING ON NATIONAL PEOPLE THAT WILL BE COMING. WE SCHEDULED FEBRUARY 26-27. I BELIEVE OUR COMMISSION MEETING IS THE WEEK BEFORE? >> FEBRUARY 20th. >> IS SIX DAYS BEFORE THE FUNCTION, COMMISSIONER CABAN. I AM JUST THROWING IDEAS TO HELP. IF WE ARE JUST HAVING ONE AGENDA ITEM, WOULD BE SPECIAL TO POSSIBLE TO HAVE ONE AGENDA ITEM NEXT WEEK TO COME BACK? I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS TOO SHORT A TIME FOR ONE AGENDA ITEM FOR STAFF TO DO A QUIC ANALYSIS ON? >> COMMISSIONER PROCTOR. >> I'M SORRY. I STILL WANTED TO SPEAK AFTER COMMISSIONER MADDOX. >> I AM SORRY. >> I WAS STILL IN QUEUE. I DIDN'T WANT TO GET DOWN THE LINE. >> OKAY. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. WE HAVE THE MOTION ON AND RESPECTFULLY, I SHARE COMMISSIONER WELCH'S SENTIMENT AND WILL NOT BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THIS MOTION TONIGHT BUT WE ARE IN TACOMA ON AN AGENDA ON THE 20th WOULD BE EASY WITH MORE INFORMATION I AM SURE IT WOULD BE EASY . THIS ISSUE IS NOT SUBSTANTIVE FOR A SPECIAL MEETING. IT IS A SMALL FUNDING REQUEST. PROBABLY SPENDS ABOUT WORTH OF STAFF TIME AND ALL OF THAT. I AM SENSITIVE TO THE SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM BUT LIKE COMMISSIONER CABAN , BETHEL CHURCH, THE WORK AT THEIR SCHOOL, THE WORK OF THEIR NEW DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE OCCURRING. HEAVY LIFTING YEAR AFTER YEAR, YOU HAVE TO RESPECT . AFRICAN-AMERICAN HISTORY BEING PURGED FROM THE SCHOOL RULES. COMMISSIONER OF EDUCATION LAST WEEK . GETTING HIT ALL OVER THE HEAD AND KICKED IN THE BUTT WITH RESPECT TO THE AUTHENTICITY AND LEGITIMACY OF HISTORY IN RESPECT OF AFRICANS. WE HAVE LANGUISHING IN THE SUPREME COURT. I DO NOT KNOW WHERE WE ARE GOING. THE HOSTILE FORCES OF THE STATE RIGHT NOW, THE HEAT WITH WHICH THE AUTHENTICITY OF OUR VERY EXISTENCE IS -- NOT THAT PROCEDURALLY, NORMALLY, I WOULD BUT I UNDERSTAND THE WAR AGAINST OPPORTUNITIES. SUPREME COURT ATTACKED THE FRONT OF ACTION. THE KIDS THAT YOU MET YESTERDAY WHO WERE MY STUDENTS, THERE WILL NOT BE WEIGHTED CONSIDERATIONS WHEN THEY APPLY FOR GRADUATE OR PROFESSIONAL SCHOOL. SOME OF THEM MAY NOT GO AS A RESULT OF SUPREME COURT RULING. I HAVE A CHANCE TO VOTE WHETHER OR NOT OUR COUNTY, AND I BELIEVE THAT OUR COUNTY LEAVES. I WAS IMPRESSED WITH THE PRESBYTERIAN CHURCHES. I WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO THE PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH. THEIR APOLOGIES FOR THE ROLES CONDUCTED BY THEIR INSTITUTION IN THE CHURCH AND BY MEMBERS AS INDIVIDUALS. THERE COMES A TIME WHEN IT IS YOUR PLANE HEART. AND THIS ASK OF CHURCH LEADERS SEEKING TO COME TOGETHER TO LOOK AT WHAT CAN POSSIBLY BE A CURRICULUM FOR AFRICAN-AMERICAN HISTORY. I APPEARED LAST YEAR ON FOX NEWS ABOUT WHAT SHOULD BE. THIS CURRICULUM THAT CAME OUT OF COLLEGE BOARD. TO IF NOT TAKE THE REQUEST AND SUPPORT OF THE CHURCH RIGHT NOW. I DO NOT KNOW ANYBODY WHO IS DEFENDING FOR MY GRANDCHILDREN OR FIGHTING AS NEW HAMPSHIRE VOTES TONIGHT IN ALL POSSIBILITIES TO VOTE FOR DONALD TRUMP. I AM GOING TO VOTE FOR THIS BECAUSE EVERYTHING I SEE IS COMING AFTER ME AND MY ANCESTRY AND THE LEGITIMACY OF WHAT WE HAVE FOUGHT IN OUR COUNTY. MY APPRECIATION FOR MY UNANIMOUS VOTE YESTERDAY TO APOLOGIZE. THE STRUGGLE OF AFRICAN LIFE IS UNITY. WHAT THESE PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO DO IS BRING SCHOLARS TO SEE WHAT CAN BRING CONSTITUTE A VIABLE, ENERGETIC HISTORY . YOU HAVE TO SUPPORT IT. I'M IN A PULL UP OFF THE SOAPBOX. I NEED TO GO SOMEWHERE. I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS UP. THIS IS A TOUGH ONE BUT WE LOVE YOU. I BELIEVE THAT INTEGRITY IS WHAT INSPIRES THIS IS AS HEAVY AS IT CAN BE. >> I HAVE ENJOYED . I HAVE NEVER SEEN A BILL LIKE THIS. I DO WANT TO OFFER A MOTION. I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, MADAM CHAIR. THIS IS SO IMPORTANT TO HISTORY, TO OUR HISTORY. TO EVERYONE'S HISTORY. THAT THINGS LIKE THIS HAPPEN TO BE ABLE TO SPONSOR THINGS LIKE THIS BUT I ALSO HEAR . I WANT TO APPROVE THE FUNDING BUT I ALSO WANT TO INCLUDE IN MY MOTION BUT POLICY BE CREATED. UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES, SPONSORSHIP CAN BE APPROVED ABOUT AN AGENDA ITEM AT ANY TIME ABOVE THE THRESHOLD OF $2500. ALL OF THESE ARE IMPORTANT, I COULD SEE IT DOWN THE ROAD AND WE WERE PUTTING IN THE SAME POSITION. AT LEAST CREATING A SITUATION TO WHERE WE TAKE SOME OF THE FLEX ABILITY AWAY FROM OURSELVES AND WE HAVE TO PUSH IT TO AN AGENDA ITEM. TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I WANT TO PUSH -- I WILL CHANGE IT. MY MOTION OPERATION, MADAM CHAIR, IS THAT WE APPROVE THE $15,000 TONIGHT AND AFTER THIS MEETING, NO SPONSORSHIP FUNDING WILL BE CONSIDERED WITHOUT AN AGENDA ITEM. THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN GET TO THAT IS BE RESEARCHED BY STAFF IN APPROVE. WE HAVE DONE THIS THREE TIMES. I THINK WE HAD TO PUT OURSELVES IN A POSITION WE ARE LETTING OURSELVES KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS AND THERE IS NO OTHER WAY ABOUT IT. THAT IS MY MOTION. THAT IS MY MOTION. >> IS THERE SECOND? >> COMMISSIONER MADDOX. CHAIR, THE MOTION -- DID YOU GIVE YOUR MOTION, COMMISSIONER MADDOX? >> HIS FIRST MOTION WAS TO APPROVE THE FUNDING. THERE WAS NO SECOND. WE ONLY HAVE ONE MOTION ON THE FLOOR. >> THANK YOU. >> LET ME JUST SAY THIS. I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THE COMMISSIONER CABAN , COMMISSIONER PROCTOR IN SUPPORTING THE MOTION THAT IS ON THE FLOOR. I WOULD HOPE THAT THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS WOULD RECONSIDER AND CONSIDER THE SENSITIVITY OF THIS TO MEMBERS ON THIS BOARD THAT DON'T LOOK LIKE YOU. AFRICAN-AMERICAN HISTORY HAS BEEN ATTACKED THE LAST COUPLE YEARS. FEDERAL LEVEL AND ON THE STATE LEVEL. ON THE STATE LEVEL, WE HAVE FELT THE MOST DEVASTATING IMPACT FROM OUR GOVERNOR AND OUR STATE LEGISLATORS. FUNDING FOR OUR UNIVERSITIES AND COLLEGES. CONNECTED TO EQUITY, INCLUSION, AND ADVERSITY. AS A RESULT, MANY PEOPLE ON THESE COLLEGE AND UNIVERSITY CAMPUSES HAVE LOST THEIR JOBS. JOBS THAT THEY HAD FOR YEARS . FOR INCLUSION OF EVERYONE. THE GOVERNORS PROPOSED THE LEGISLATURE. THIS IS AN EFFORT ON THE PART OF US. THE PEOPLE THAT LOOK LIKE ME TO PROMOTE AFRICAN-AMERICAN HISTORY WHICH HAS BEEN SYSTEMATICALLY EXCLUDED FROM OUR SCHOOLS IN FLORIDA. THERE IS NO EFFORT TO EXCLUDE MAJORITY HISTORY BUT EFFORT TO EXCLUDE MINORITY HISTORY. I GUESS I AM EXTRA SENSITIVE TO THIS. MANY CITIZENS IN LEON COUNTY, HERE IN TALLAHASSEE, HAVE DESCENDENTS THAT WERE SLAVES . THERE IS AN EFFORT TO WIPE OUT ALL THE HISTORY. MY HISTORY IS IMPORTANT. YOUR HISTORY IS IMPORTANT. THIS IS DESIGNED SO THAT WE, OF AFRICAN-AMERICAN DESCENT CAN HAVE THIS AND RECOGNIZE THAT WE, TOO, ARE IMPORTANT AND WE, TOO, PLAYED A ROLE IN ORGANIZING THE STATE, THE CITY, AND THIS COUNTY. WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR COMMISSION, THIS IS TAXPAYER FUNDS. THOSE OF US OF AFRICAN-AMERICAN DESCENT PAY TAXES IN THIS COUNTY. WHILE I RECOGNIZE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR THAT WE DO HAVE POLICY THAT DEALS WITH REQUESTS, I ASK YOU TO CONSIDER THAT THIS IS UNIQUE. I BELIEVE THIS IS THE FIRST TIME SINCE I HAVE LIVED IN FLORIDA THAT THERE IS A DIRECT SLOT ON TEACHING . THE HISTORY OF OUR PEOPLE FROM THE TOP TO THE BOTTOM. THIS IS A UNIQUE SITUATION. IN A SYMPOSIUM LIKE THIS, IT IS VERY ESSENTIAL TO MY CHILDREN, MY GRANDCHILDREN, YOUR CHILDREN. IT DOES NOT MATTER WHETHER YOU ARE BLACK, WHITE, OR BLUE. I BELIEVE ALL OF OUR HISTORY IS IMPORTANT, ALL OF OUR HISTORY IS ESSENTIAL. WHETHER THERE IS GOOD, BAD, OR UGLY, WE KNOW THE HISTORY AND WE MOVE ON. LIKE I SAY, THIS IS A POLICY, A UNIQUE SITUATION. I BELIEVE THIS WILL GO ON. AND REFUSED TO DO SO WHEN WERE ONLY TALKING ABOUT $15,000 OF TAXPAYERS MONEY. I AM HOPING THAT MY FELLOW MEMBERS ON THE COMMISSION WOULD THINK AGAIN. I ASKED THAT WE DON'T PUT OVER SUBSTANCE AND WE GRANT THIS MINOR SUBSIDY THE TAXES THAT I PAY IS OVER HALF OF THIS AMOUNT. I AM ONE PERSON. I IMPLORE YOU TO THINK AGAIN. I KNOW WE HAVE A POLICY. THIS IS A UNIQUE SITUATION WHERE THE VERY EXISTENCE OF MY PEOPLE IS BEING ATTACKED. WE CAN'T SIT AROUND AND ALLOW SOMEBODY ELSE. WE ARE TRYING TO DO IT OURSELVES. WE ARE ASKING FOR A MINUTE PIECE OF TAXPAYERS MONEY. >> A PERFECT ROLE. I WAS TRYING TO BE IN VERY POLITICALLY CORRECT BECAUSE YOU WAS ON THE STEPS OF THE CAPITAL LAST WEEK. THE MAYOR WAS THERE. WAS LEON COUNTY STAY AT THE CAPITAL. IT REALLY STRUCK ME TO THE CORE THE SECRETARY OF STATE WAS THE OPENING SPEAKER. TALKING STUFF IN A RESOLUTION. I HAD TO LEAVE AND GO HOME. I COULD NOT STAND THERE. THAT MAN FILED A MOTION WITH THE SAID SUPREME COURT TO TELL THE SUPREME COURT OF FLORIDA DID NOT LISTEN TO THE APPEAL OF BOTH PLAINTIFFS WHO ARE SEEKING THE HEARING ON RESTORING CONGRESSIONAL SEAT FIVE. 16-18-20 -22. MY DISTRICT HAD A BLACK MAN AS THE CONGRESSMAN. DEMOCRAT REGISTERED LIKE ME. THE SECRETARY OF STATE WOULD ACT LIKE THE RESOLUTION FOR LEON COUNTY. STUCK A KNIFE IN OUR BACK AND WROTE THE SUPREME COURT TO NOT LISTEN TO US . THE SECRETARY OF STATE IS SUPPOSED TO BE FAIR . THE PLEASE OF ALL VOTERS. THE REFEREE OF ALBANY. WE TOOK SIDES AND TOLD THE COURT THAT MY DISTRICT, THE BLACK FOLK LETTER BLACK PERSON REPRESENT NORTH FLORIDA . ALL THE SLAVE COUNTIES. IT IS THESE INSULTS THAT INFLAMED AND TRIED TO KEEP YOUR COOL. TRY TO REMAIN POISED AND WE HAVE AN ALL-MALE CONGRESSIONAL FRONT IN NORTH FLORIDA. THE ONLY OTHER DEMOCRAT. THE CAPITAL OF FLORIDA AND OR WHATEVER THAT MEANS. THE SECRETARY OF STATE IS NOT INTERESTED IN US HAVING AN THE GOVERNOR IS NOT INTERESTED. AND THEN, NOT ONLY IS HE NOT INTERESTED, HE IS NOT INTERESTED THE NAMES THAT WE SENT WITH BLACK PEOPLE ON IT THAT SERVE ON THE CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL. HE WANTS A WHITE SHEET OF PAPER. JUST TO BE REAL ABOUT IT. YOU ARE TRYING TO BE COOL APPEAR, BE POISED AND DON'T GO THERE AND ALL OF THAT. WE JUST SAID WHAT WE SEE. EVERY PERSON HAS THEIR OWN CONVICTIONS ABOUT HOW THEY VOTE BUT NOT ALL OF OUR THOUGHTS ARE GENERATED FROM THE SAME REALITIES. I BACK MY CHAIRWOMAN AND ASK COMMISSIONERS IS THAT OVER FORMED AND IF YOU WERE IN OUR SHOES, HOW WOULD YOU FEEL WITH ALL THE THINGS THAT WE ARE SEEING ON A CONSTANT BASIS? I NEVER HEARD OF THE CHAIRWOMAN SPEAK ISSUES ABOUT. I HAVE NEVER HEARD THAT. SHE IS NOT THE PERSON I AM. COMING FROM MISSISSIPPI, THOSE VARIANCES ARE RAW AND COMES OUT OF MISSISSIPPI. >> COMES OUT OF MISSISSIPPI. ON, ON, AND ON. OUR CHAIRWOMAN IS BLEEDING FROM A PLACE THAT EVERY SLAVE INSIDE OF MY DNA IS RUNNING ACROSS THE BACK OF MY SHOULDERS AND THEY HEAR YOU. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ALL HERE BUT I THOUGHT A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO COMPRISE OF MY DNA. THEY HEAR EVERYTHING THAT YOU JUST SAID. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. >> THINK YOU, COMMISSIONER PROCTOR. COMMISSIONER WELCH? >> MADAM CHAIR, MR. PROCTOR, I AM ALSO FROM MISSISSIPPI. I AM VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE THINGS THAT THE CHAIR DISCUSSES. OBVIOUSLY, MADAM CHAIR HAD A DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE GROWING UP IN MISSISSIPPI THAN I DID. DO HAVE A SECOND. >> WE DO HAVE A QUESTION. OKAY, I AM SORRY, COMMISSIONER WELK DID PROVIDE THAT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE . ANY OPPOSITION? >> DOESN'T NEED TO BE DENIED . DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT, OKAY, O'KEEFE ? >> IT CANNOT BE DEBATED. >> OKAY, THERE IS NO DEBATE, ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION. >> THE MOTION WOULD BE TO PROVIDE THE SPONSORSHIP TO MADAME CHAIR'S REQUEST, WITH A REQUIREMENT THAT ANY FUTURE REQUEST FOR FUNDING OR SPONSORSHIPS THAT COME FROM CONTINGENCY , OVER $2500, WOULD HAVE TO REQUIRE AN AGENDA. >> OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, LET IT BE KNOWN BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED ? >> NAY. >> ONE OPPOSED. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR , FOR THE EMOTION -- MOTION. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. IT WAS A GREAT MEETING. THANK YOU, AUDIENCE, THANK YOU EMPLOYEES FOR BEING HERE. --------- >> GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE. WELCOME TO OUR JANUARY 23rd, 2024 MEETING. OUR VERY FIRST COMMISSION MEETING OF THE NEW YEAR. SO WE WANT TO WELCOME EACH ONE OF YOU HERE. WE ARE GOING TO BEGIN OUR MEETING WITH COMMISSIONER CHRISTIAN CABAN INTRODUCING THE PASTOR WHO WILL PROVIDE THE INVOCATION. COMMISSIONER CABAN? >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. FOR THE INVOCATION TODAY, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE PASTOR MATTHEW WILEY FROM LAKE TALQUIN BAPTIST CHURCH, ACCOMPANIED BY HIS WIFE KIM AND WIFE KELLY. PASTOR WILEY? >> THANK YOU TO THE COMMISSIONERS FOR HAVING ME TODAY. AND TO COMMISSIONER CABAN FOR THE INVITATION. BOW YOUR HEADS, LET US PRAY. DEAR HEAVENLY FATHER , I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR THIS BEAUTIFUL DAY. MAY WE ALL KNOW THAT EVERY MORNING YOU WAKE US UP AND ALLOW US TO DRAW BREATH IS ANOTHER DAY THAT YOU ARE GIVING US TO SERVE YOU. WE ALL HAVE OUR OWN PATH AND CALL TO SERVICE, LORD. BUT WE ARE ALL CALLED TO SERVE YOU. AS THEY FOLLOW THEIR CALL TO SERVE YOU, YOU PLACE YOUR HANDS ON THE HEARTS, MINDS, SOULS OF OUR COUNTY LEADERS TODAY, AND EVERY DAY MOVING FORWARD. AS THEY MAKE DECISIONS THAT WILL AFFECT THE PEOPLE OF OUR COUNTY AND COMMUNITIES. HELP THEM LEAD IN A WAY THAT EMBODIES THE VICTOR, JESUS CHRIST, WITH STRENGTH, CONVICTION, EMPATHY, COURAGE, AND LOVE. IN CHRIST NAME I PRAY, AMEN. >> WE WOULD LIKE TO THINK PASTOR WILEY FOR PROVIDING US THAT VERY APPROPRIATE INVOCATION. WE CERTAINLY WELCOME YOU, YOUR CONGREGATION, AND YOUR FAMILY FOR BEING WITH US THIS AFTERNOON. AT THIS TIME, WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZED IN MELISSA DAWN HUGHES FROM GOAT HOUSE FARM'S. THE PRESENTATION WILL BE MADE BY COMMISSIONER CABAN. SO THOSE PRESENT TO RECEIVE THE PROCLAMATION, WILL YOU JOIN COMMISSIONER CABAN AT THE PODIUM? >> WHEREAS THE GOAT HOUSE FARM IS A MICRO GOAT, DAIRY, AND EDUCATIONAL FARM LOCATED IN RURAL LEON COUNTY, IN TOLKIEN. WHERE IS THE GOAT HOUSE FARM BEGAN IN THE SUMMER OF 2015 WITH JUST FOUR ACRES OF LAND, FOR GOATS, AND FOR CHICKENS, AND WHEREAS THE GOAT HOUSE FARM IS OWNED AND OPERATED BY MELISSA DAWN HUGHES, AND WHEREAS THE GOAT HOUSE FARM PRIMARY GOALS ARE TO EDUCATE GOAT OWNERS UNSCIENTIFIC BEST PRACTICES AND HOLISTIC CARE TO DEVELOP AND BUILD COMMUNITY EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS ON GOAT HUSBANDRY CENTERED AROUND COMPASSION, EMPATHY, AND ENVIRONMENTAL AWARENESS. INCREASED YOUTH PARTICIPATION IN DAIRY GOES THROUGH 4H AND FFA PROGRAMS. TO INCLUDE THE COMMUNITY WELLNESS THROUGH GOAT -ASSISTED COMMUNITY SERVICES PICK TO PARTNER WITH ORGANIZATIONS TO UNLOCK CHAIR MISSIONS, AND WHEREAS THE GOAT HOUSE FARM PARTNERS WILL BE ON THE EXTENSION OFFICE AND AGENT VALERIE MENDEZ, AND IS HOME TO THE LEON COUNTY FOR H DAIRY GOAT PROJECT. AND WHEREAS THE GOAT HOUSE FARM INC. AND THE KIDS IN THE 4H PROGRAM PARTICIPATED IN THE NORTH FLORIDA SHOWMANSHIP AND FITTING CONTEST, AND WHEREAS EVEN HARMON, ROSALINA HARMON, IS A CAROL, AND LILLIAN CABRERA PLACED FIRST IN THE SHOWMANSHIP AND FITTING CONTEST FOR AGE AND FFA DAIRY GOAT SHOW. THEREFORE, BE IT PROCLAIMED BY THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS OF LEON COUNTY, FLORIDA, WE RECOGNIZE THE GOAT HOUSE FARM INC. AND MELISSA DAWN HUGHES FOR HER COMMITMENT TO THE COMMUNITY, COMMITMENT TO EDUCATING THE YOUTH AND GOAT OWNERS, HER COMPASSION AND CARE FOR THE ANIMALS, WE EXPRESS OUR GRATITUDE AND APPRECIATION FOR THE PARTNERSHIP OF LEON COUNTY FOR H FOR THE OPPORTUNITIES IT PROVIDES TO KIDS IN OUR COMMUNITY. DATED THIS 23rd DAY OF JANUARY, 2024, SIGNED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. >> SO THESE ARE OUR KIDS THAT WON THIS YEAR. OUR PROGRAM HAS GROWN FROM TWO KIDS THE FIRST YEAR TO 3, 24, AND THIS YEAR WE HAVE 30 KIDS SIGNED UP. SO ON THE PREMISE THAT IF WE DO NOT GET MORE YOUTH INVOLVED IN AGRICULTURE, WE WILL BE IN TROUBLE IN THE FUTURE. AS WE ARE SUPER GRATEFUL FOR OUR YOUTH FOR PARTICIPATING AND FOR BEING PATIENT WITH SOME UNRULY GOATS THIS YEAR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CABAN. WE CERTAINLY THANK YOU FOR ENGAGING OUR YOUTH IN THOSE AGRICULTURE -RELATED ACTIVITIES. WE ARE PROUD OF THEIR INVOLVEMENT. COMMISSIONERS, AT THIS TIME, WE HAVE COMMISSIONER MADDOX, WHO DESIRES TO APPEAR TELEPHONICALLY. COMMISSIONER MADDOX, ARE YOU THERE? >> YES MA'AM, MADAM CHAIR. >> THANK YOU. >> I WOULD LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ALLOW HIM TO APPEAR TELEPHONICALLY. THANK YOU. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, LET IT BE KNOWN BY SAYING AYE. NO OPPOSITION, I VOTE AYE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, THE ITEMS TO BE HEARD ON THE CONSENT AND NON-AGENDA ITEMS. >> MADAM CHAIR, WE HAVE NO CITIZENS TO BE HEARD. SORRY ABOUT THAT. WE DO HAVE ONE ITEM, ITEM NUMBER 17. IT HAS BEEN TOLD. SO WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT. ITEMS PULLED WERE 8, 9, 13, 14, AND 17. I BELIEVE WE HAVE SPEAKERS ON ITEMS 17 , WHEN YOU GET TO THAT AGENDA. >> THANK YOU, MR. COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. COMMISSIONERS , WE ARE NOW ON CONSENT AGENDA ABSENT THOSE ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN POOLED. MR. COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, WILL YOU GIVE ME THE NUMBERS AGAIN? >> 8, 9, 14, 17. >> OKAY. SO MOVE, EXCLUDING 8, 9, 13, 14, 17. IS THERE A SECOND? THANK YOU. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, LET IT BE KNOWN BY SAYING AYE. WE VOTE AYE. >> MADAM, WE DO HAVE A CALLER? OKAY, AWESOME, THANK YOU. COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, I WILL TURN IT BACK TO YOU. >> THANK YOU. IN THE ORDER THEY WERE PULLED, WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER 8, WHICH IS PROPOSED REVISIONS TO POLICY NUMBER 96-1 "PURCHASING POLICY". FOLLOWING THAT, THESE TWO ARE RELATED , ITEM NUMBER 9, WHICH ARE PROPOSED REVISIONS TO THE COUNTY TORAH MS. -- COUNTY TORAH ROOM SOME EVENT GRANT PROGRAMS. >> THANK YOU MR. COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. DO WE HAVE ANY? WE DO NOT HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? >> NOT ON EITHER OF THOSE TWO. >> COMMISSIONER CABAN? >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I WILL GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES, SO THAT WE CAN DISCUSS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8. I WILL MOVE OPTION NUMBER TWO TO PROPOSED REVISIONS TO PURCHASING POLICY. >> IS THERE A SECOND? WE HAVE A SECOND. DISCUSSION. >> THANK YOU. I PERSONALLY HAVE MULTIPLE ISSUES WITH THIS AGENDA ITEM. NUMBER ONE, THERE ARE SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES BEING PROPOSED TO THIS POLICY. I DO NOT THINK IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN CONSENT IN THE FIRST PLACE. I HAVE TWO STACKS, ONE WAS THE PREVIOUS POLICY, AND I HAVE THE PROPOSED POLICY, WHICH IS SOMEWHAT, IF NOT DOUBLE. THE ANALYSIS IN THE AGENDA ITEM SAYS ONE OF THE REASONS FOR THESE CHANGES ARE TO,", TO BE CONSISTENT WITH INDUSTRY STANDARDS, INCLUDING THE CITY OF TALLAHASSEE, AND BLUEPRINT INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGENCY. I PERSONALLY DO NOT WANT COUNTY POLICY BUILT AROUND ROUP BLUEPRINT POLICY. IF WE ARE GOING TO START MIMICKING POLICY THAT IS LAID OUT IN BLUEPRINT AND TRY TO BRING THEM OVER TO THE COUNTY, NO. I DO NOT THINK THAT IS GOOD GOVERNANCE. I DO NOT THINK TAXPAYERS WOULD APPRECIATE THAT. I AM NOT A FAN OF THAT. TYPICALLY WHEN WE HAVE POLICY CHANGES, WE GET A REDLINE COPY TO GO THROUGH, COMPARE, AND MATCH THE DIFFERENCES IN CHANGES. THIS YEAR WE DID NOT HAVE THAT. WE WERE TRYING TO GO THROUGH AND MANUALLY LOOK AT IT AND HIGHLIGHT THE CHANGES. SOME OF THE PROPOSED POLICIES AND HERE WERE DOUBLING THE THRESHOLD FOR STAFF SPENDING WITHOUT IT COMING TO THE BOARD FOR APPROVAL. I DO NOT THINK THAT IS GOOD GOVERNANCE. I THINK THAT WHEN WE HAVE SUCH BIG POLICY CHANGES, SUCH AS PURCHASING POLICY, I MEAN, WE SPEND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO THE YEAR. THERE ARE BIDDING PROCESSES IN CERTAIN AVENUES THAT WE NEED TO GO THROUGH FOR GOOD TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY. I THINK WHEN WE ARE DISCUSSING POLICY CHANGES LIKE THIS, THERE IS NOT ENOUGH LEEWAY FOR US TO MAKE CHANGES OR TO OFFER ALTERNATIVES. I PERSONALLY THINK THAT THIS POLICY SHOULD BE LAID OUT IN A POLICY WORKSHOP . AND THEN WE CAN ALL COME TO THE TABLE WITH A REDLINE, LOOK AT THE CLEAR CHANGES. SOME OF THE POLICY IN HERE CLEARLY SAYS WE WILL INCREASE SPENDING THRESHOLD FROM $100,000-$250,000. THAT IS A 150% INCREASE. SO I AM NOT COMFORTABLE WITH IT. I AM CURIOUS TO SEE IF ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY INPUT. I'M NOT SURE IF I AM THE ONLY ONE. I AM JUST CURIOUS TO HEAR WHAT OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE TO SAY. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CABAN. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS THAT WANT TO ADDRESS IT? COMMISSIONER CABAN, MR. COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR? >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. WE WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE BOARD HAS SPECIFICALLY ON ANY OF THESE IN PARTICULAR. AGAIN, WE VIEW THESE AS MINOR IN NATURE, CONFORMING IN NATURE, A CONSISTENCY-BASED IN NATURE, VERY CONSISTENT WITH THE WAY WE HAVE ALWAYS HANDLED ITEMS LIKE THIS. AGAIN, SHOULD THE BOARD HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH ANY OF THIS, I AM HAPPY TO BRING THESE BACK SEPARATELY , ADJUST THEM AS SEPARATE ISSUES, STANDALONE ITEMS, IF YOU WILL. OR WE ARE VERY HAPPY TO ADDRESS EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THESE GENERALLY SPEAKING. EACH ONE OF THESE HAVE A REASON, ISSUE, OR A CHALLENGE THAT WERE ASSOCIATED WITH THEM. BUT, AGAIN, WE DO NOT BRING THEM TO ONE AT A TIME OR WHEN EACH OF THOSE ISSUES COME UP. WE WAIT FOR AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRING THEM AS A WHOLE TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CLEAN SEVERAL DIFFERENT THINGS UP AT ONCE. AGAIN, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THESE. I THINK YOU WILL FIND THEM TO ALL BE VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD. AGAIN, WE ARE PREPARED TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU, MR. COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. COMMISSIONER PROCTOR, WE ARE ON CONSENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8. IT HAS BEEN PULLED. IT INCREASES THE PURCHASE POWER FROM $100,000 TO 220 THAT -- $250,000. IT GIVES THE AUTHORITY, I GUESS IS WHAT IT SAYS. >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. COMMISSIONERS, THIS WAS A BIG ITEM, A BIG ITEM. PURCHASING OVER THE YEARS HAS GONE TO EQUITY. I KNOW THAT FLORIDA IS NOT A STATE THAT THRIVES ON TRYING TO PUT THE FLAMES, THE EMBERS OF EQUITY OUT. THE PROCUREMENT, WE HAVE GOALS AND THAT. THERE ARE THE NUANCES OF WHEN STAFF CAN MAKE PURCHASES. WE HAVE THOSE THAT QUALIFY. FOR INSTANCE, THE COUNTY ATTORNEY CAN CALL FOR A FIVE ATTORNEYS TO PICK UP DEBRIS FROM STORMS, YOU CAN CALL 304 COMPANIES, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO -- I THINK IT IS TIME FOR A WORKSHOP ON PURCHASING. IT GOES TO THE CORE OF WHAT WE DO IN SPENDING THE DOLLARS FOR THE PUBLIC. AND OF COURSE, OVER THE YEARS, THE NUMBERS BEAR OUT THAT WE HAVE CONTINUED TO FAILED TO MEET OUR MARK. IN PURCHASING. IT WAS NOT A THRILL, BUT YEARS AGO, UNDER MR. KEITH ROBERTS, HE WAS OUR PURCHASING DIRECTOR, I ASKED THAT THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR FIRE HIM, AND I AM NOT SURE ENTIRELY, I DID NOT KNOW, BUT I FELT THAT WE WERE OVER AND OVER, YEAR AFTER YEAR, MISSING MINORITY INCLUSION AND INVOLVEMENT. I FELT WE NEEDED A NEW DIRECTOR THAT COULD IMPLEMENT THE POLICIES THAT WERE ON THE BOOK. WE NOW HAVE CONFLATED MINORITY PURCHASING LINED INSIDE THE OFFICE OF THE OEV. WHEN WE USED TO HAVE THE CITY NUMBERS ON STANDALONE, THE COUNTIES STANDALONE, THIS HAS BEEN A COMPLETE WASH. AND HOW WE ARE COUNTING THE NUMBERS, WHEN YOU ARE GOING THROUGH THE TRIBUTARIES OF CITY AND COUNTY GOVERNMENT ALL OVER THE SAME PLOT, GOING TO THE SAME INSTRUMENT TO ACCOUNT FOR SOMETHING, THAT IS JUST VERY HARD TO MAINTAIN TRANSPARENCY THAT IS ACCURATE AND PRECISE. REALLY, NOBODY KNOWS. SO I GUESS WE ALL STAND A LITTLE TALLER WITH OUR NUMBERS COMBINED. BUT I AM NOT SURE WHY WE HAVE THIS ISSUE, BUT WHEN I SAW THIS MATTER, I THOUGHT IT WAS A VERY BROAD AND BIG MATTER FOR CONSENT. AND TO EXTEND THE PURCHASING POWER TO $250,000, IT IS NOT A LOT, BUT IT IS THE WHOLE STADIUM OF PURCHASING. AND I THINK OUR NEW COMMISSION DESERVES TO HAVE AN OVERVIEW, WE NEED THAT. SO I WOULD MAKE A MOTION. >> THERE IS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FOR OPTION TO ENTERTAIN AN AMENDED MOTION TO WORKSHOP THIS ITEM. >> MADAM? >> YES, IT WAS YOUR MOTION. >> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A POINT OF CLARIFICATION AS WELL. ON PAGE 138 OF 1067 IN OUR AGENDA, IT HAS ALL THE PURCHASING PROCESS THRESHOLDS. SOME ITEMS ARE 1200 $50,000 THAT ARE INCREASING. ONE ITEM IN PROCUREMENT AGREEMENTS WENT FROM $100,000-$250,000. THERE ARE DEFINITELY SOME BIG INCREASES EXCEEDING $25,000 IN CHANGES. I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT AS WELL. BUT I WILL AMEND MY MOTION TO NOT ACCEPT THE PURCHASING POLICY AND SCHEDULE A WORKSHOP WHERE WE CAN COME TOGETHER AS A BOARD AND COME UP WITH POLICY THAT WORKS FOR EVERYONE. >> THANK YOU. IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE? >> THANK YOU, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION. MADAM CHAIR, IN THIS PURCHASING, SPECIFIC TO THIS ITEM, PURCHASING POLICY, HAS ANY NEW DELEGATION BEEN ADDED? SO A FURTHER DELEGATION TO LOWER-LEVEL STAFFING ORGANIZATION IN THIS ITEM? >> MR. COUNTY COMMISSIONER? >> THANK YOU. PLEASE? >> MADAM CHAIR, MAY I? >> YES. >> NO NEW DELEGATIONS. OU WILL SEE ON TABLE 2, WHICH IS PAGE 14 OF THE AGENDA ITEM, IT IS 138 OF THE AGENDA PACKAGE, THOSE WERE EXISTING DELEGATIONS THAT EXIST IN THE CURRENT PURCHASING POLICY. I BELIEVE WHAT COMMISSIONER CABAN IS REFERRING TO IS THAT SOME OF THOSE THRESHOLDS THAT AUTHORIZED THE DELEGATES TO ACT WITHOUT BOARD AUTHORITY IS PROPOSED TO BE INCREASED. THE OTHER THING THAT WAS REVIEWED, AND THIS WAS PART OF A CONFERENCE OF OVERHAUL IN THIS POLICY, WHICH IT WAS MOST RECENTLY TOUCHED TO REMOVE THE OEV PROVISIONS. BECAUSE AS COMMISSIONER PROCTOR POINTED OUT, THESE HAVE BEEN CONSOLIDATED UNDER OEV FOR SOME PORTIONS. THE EXCEPTIONS TO THE PURCHASING POLICY WERE REVIEWED TO SEE IF THEY MAKE SENSE, IF THEY WERE EVER UTILIZED, IF THEY WERE CLEAR, IF THERE HAS BEEN CONFUSION IN THE PAST ABOUT WHETHER AN EXCEPTION APPLIED. SO THAT WAS PART OF THE REVIEW AND OVERHAUL OF THE POLICY. >> THANK YOU, MADAM ATTORNEY. ANYTHING FOR COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE? OKAY. COMMISSIONER MATTIX, I KNOW YOU ARE ON THE PHONE, BUT I UNDERSTAND YOU WOULD LIKE TO WEIGH IN ON THIS ISSUE? >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. REALLY QUICK, MR. MINNIS TRADER, YOU GUYS ASKED FOR AN INCREASE OF A DOUBLE ON THE ONE THRESHOLD. ALSO, I AM IN A PLACE WHERE I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND ACCEPT THIS POLICY, AND THEN WE CAN STILL WORKSHOP IT, BUT I WOULD EXCEPT THE POLICY AND WORKSHOP IT. BUT I DO WANT SOME EXPLANATION. I THINK TO ANSWER THE QUESTION OF WHY DO THRESHOLDS INCREASE SO MUCH, MR. ADMINISTRATOR. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MATTIX. AGAIN, AND I THINK COMMISSIONERS HAVE NOTED THIS. THERE ARE PROBABLY A DOZEN OR SO CHANGES IN HERE. SOME OF THEM GO SPECIFICALLY TO INCREASED COST AND THAT SORT OF THING. ALL OF THESE, YOU SHOULD KNOW, ARE CONSISTENT WITH PREVIOUS BOARD APPROVED BUDGETS. THEY ARE ALL DONE IN THE NATURE OF EXPEDITING THE REGULAR BUSINESS OF THE COUNTY SO THAT WE CAN DO THINGS AS EFFICIENTLY AND QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. AGAIN, ALL CONSISTENT WITH BOARD DIRECTION, OF COURSE, AND PREVIOUSLY APPROVED BUDGETS AND THAT SORT OF THING. BUT THE SPECIFIC ONE THAT YOU NOTED, COMMISSIONER MATTIX, ON THE AUTHORITY, I WILL CONFER TO MR. MORRIS ON THAT ONE. HE HAS A BETTER GRASP ON ALL OF THAT. >> SURE. I WOULD JUST POINT OUT THAT THE CEILING THRESHOLD, THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATORS PURCHASING THRESHOLD REMAINS AT $250,000. WHAT YOU SEE IN THE AGENDA ITEM MATERIALS ARE A LOT OF THE THRESHOLDS FOR, LET'S SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, THE PURCHASING DIRECTOR THERE , THOSE THRESHOLDS INCREASE, BUT OF COURSE, SAY UNDER AND WITHIN, ULTIMATELY, THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATORS AUTHORITY. WE SEE SOME CHANGES RELATIVE TO THE PURCHASING OF USED EQUIPMENT FOR THE COUNTY, AND HOW MANY APPRAISALS WE WOULD NEED TO GET IN THAT PROCESS. AND THOSE ARE TO REFLECT JUST CHANGING MARKET CONDITIONS AND WHAT NEEDS TO GO TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR VERSUS WHAT CAN BE APPROVED BY THE PURCHASING DIRECTOR THERE. >> THANK YOU. >> CHAIR, BY ALL MEANS, IF THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO SLOW THIS DOWN AND CONDUCT A WORKSHOP, WE WOULD BE VERY HAPPY TO CONDUCT A CONFERENCE OF WORKSHOP ON ALL OF THIS AND REMAIN UNDER THE CURRENT THRESHOLD, IF THAT IS THE DESIRE OF THE BOARD. THANK YOU. >> MADAM CHAIR? IF I'M IN ORDER, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION ON THIS ITEM TO BRING IT BACK FOR WORKSHOP. >> IS THERE A SECOND? >> COMMISSIONER CABAN, IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION? >> I THINK THAT IS WHAT MY MOTION WAS ORIGINALLY. NOT ACCEPTING THE SCHEDULE WORKSHOP, AND THEN BRING IT BACK. >> OKAY. I AM SORRY. I THOUGHT YOUR MOTION WAS TO REJECT IT. BUT IT IS TO WORKSHOP IT? >> YES, MA'AM. THE ALTERNATIVE ONE WAS TO REJECT IT. EITHER WAY, I SUPPORT COMMISSIONER MATTIX 'ASK MOTION. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? >> MADAM CHAIR, I THINK THAT, UNLESS SOMETHING RADICAL HAS OCCURRED, OUR COUNTY EXPENDS, I WILL STOP AT 95%. 95% OF ALL OF THE COUNTIES DOLLARS IN OUR BENDING AND CONTRACTING WITH WHITE, MALE FIRMS. IT IS MORE DIFFICULT FOR US TO IDENTIFY IT, BEING THAT THOSE NUMBERS NOW ARE FUNNELED THROUGH OEV. AND IN A SENSE , OEV SERVES AS A, I CANNOT THINK OF THAT WORD. BUT IT IS A WALL THAT BLOCKS THE TRANSPARENCY, AND IT PROTECTS EXPOSURE OF THE ABSENCE OF OUR CLOSING THE GAP IN EXPENDITURES WITH MINORITY VENDORS. WE ARE A BORE THAT HAVE ALLOWED 96% TO 97% OF HER COUNTIES TAX DOLLARS TO GO TO WHITE MALES YEAR, AFTER YEAR, AFTER YEAR. WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO BREAK THE CYCLE. BUT I THINK THAT A PART OF OUR WORKSHOP SHOULD BREAKDOWN NOT JUST PROCUREMENT IS A PROCESS, AND THE STRATIFICATION OF WHO GETS TO EXPEND AT WHAT AMOUNT. BUT WHEN WE DO NOT BRING THE MATTER BACK TO THE BOARD UNTIL IT IS AT $250,000, BUT EVERYTHING BEFORE $249,999, MOST OF OUR WORKING MINORITY CONTRACT THERE'S ARE DOING , THEY WOULD NOT BE IN REACH OF $250,000. SO ALL OF THE DECISION-MAKING IS OCCURRING OUTSIDE OF THE SCOPE OF THIS BOARD. I'M NOT ACCUSING ANYBODY OF BIAS, BUT I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHY THE NUMBERS ARE SO STUBBORN AND NOT EVOLVING FOR THE BENEFIT AND THE DERI, INCLUSION, THE I PART , IT IS JUST NOT THERE. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE COMMISSIONERS TO BE SERIOUS ABOUT IT, NOT JUST AT WHAT THRESHOLD WHAT LIEUTENANT, COLONEL, GENERAL, TITLES LIKE THAT, HOW MUCH THEY CAN SPEND. BUT ALSO, HOW DO WE GET TO TRACK OLD NUMBERS THAT WE USED TO HAVE THAT WE DO NOT SEE ANY MORE, AND INCREASE THE EXPENDITURES OF MINORITY VENDORS. ALL OF THAT COMES UP WHEN I LOOK AT THIS. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER PROCTOR. BASICALLY, YOUR COMMENT, SORRY, IT IS PART OF THE WORKSHOP, YOU WOULD LIKE AN ANALYSIS OF, I GUESS, THE EXPENDITURES BELOW THE $250,000 THAT IS PART OF DISCRETIONARY FUNDING ON THE PART OF THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR IN THE PURCHASING DIRECTOR THERE, AND ALL OF THOSE WHO HAVE THAT AUTHORITY? >> RIGHT. IT WOULD ALSO BE GOOD TO IN THAT HOW MANY CONTRACTS AND HOW MUCH SPENDING IS OCCURRING ON THE $20,000. HOW MUCH IS $50,000? HOW MUCH ACTUALLY GOES OUT OVER $250,000. I AM NOT SURE WHAT THE VOLUME LOOKS LIKE. $5000, DO WE SPEND MORE MONEY BETWEEN $25,000 AND $30,000? WE DO NOT KNOW. BUT IT WOULD BE A GREAT INDEX FOR THIS BOARD TO OBSERVE. AND IT ALSO WOULD HELP US TO KNOW HOW TO SET WAGES OR STANDARDS ON THAT RIGHT NOW. AND WHAT VOLUME AMOUNT AND FREQUENCY ARE WE MAKING FOR THESE CHOICES? >> THANK YOU. MR. COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, WE HAVE HEARD THE COMMENTS AND THAT PART OF THE WORKSHOP. >> ABSOLUTELY. WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE MR. JONES HERE INVOLVED IN THAT. THE DECISION WAS MADE SEVERAL YEARS AGO TO COMBINE OUR PURCHASING POWER ALONG WITH OEV, THE CITY OF TALLAHASSEE, AND LEON COUNTY, SO THAT WE COULD ADVANTAGE, IN PARTICULAR, MINORITY BUSINESSES AND AVAIL THEM TO A WHOLE LOT MORE. WE BRING TO AN ITEM WHICH SHOWS OUR SPENDING , COUNTY ONLY, AS WELL AS CITY, AND BLUEPRINT EVERY YEAR. JUST FOR THE RECORD, THE COUNTY EXCEED OUR DISPARITY STUDY GOALS CONSISTENTLY. BUT WITH THAT, WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO INCLUDE ALL OF THAT IN THE WORKSHOP. >> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE? >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. REAL BRIEFLY, I AM GOING TO POSE THIS. SHOCKER, I DO NOT THINK WE NEED A WORKSHOP ON THIS. BUT THAT IS ALL. I JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF THAT WAS WHY. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO WORKSHOP IT WITH THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR IS INDICATING, LET IT BE KNOWN BY SAYING AYE . AYE. A POSITION? >> NAY. >> THANKS. >> ITEM NUMBER 909, CHANGES TO THE COUNTY TOURISM EVENT GRANT PROGRAMS. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. >> COMMISSIONER CABAN? >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. THIS POLICY, AGAIN, SOMETHING THAT I WISH WOULD HAVE BEEN IN GENERAL BUSINESS AND NOT IN CONSENT. BUT WHEN I LOOK AT THIS POLICY, I THINK ABOUT WHERE THIS BOARD WAS POTENTIALLY 20+ YEARS AGO WHEN THEY WERE LAYING OUT THE AGREEMENT, THE BLUEPRINT, AND DELEGATING AUTHORITY FROM THIS BOARD TO STAFF. MY PROBLEM WITH THIS IS THAT THE TDT IS ESSENTIALLY A LOCAL TAX. THIS POLICY IS BUILT AROUND ESSENTIALLY GIVING MAJORITY, IF NOT ALL THE POWER AND AUTHORITY OF THIS TAX TO STAFF IN AWAY FOM THIS BOARD. I DO NOTHING THAT IS GOOD GOVERNANCE. I THINK THAT WE SHOULD HAVE SAY, A LOT MORE SAY, ESPECIALLY WHEN FOLKS COME TO APPLICATIONS, BIDDING, GRANT FUNDING. I THINK THAT IT SHOULD COME BEFORE THIS BOARD. THAT IS MY PERSONAL OPINION ON THIS. ADDITIONALLY, THIS POLICY SAYS THAT WE CANNOT USE GRANT FUNDING DURING THE HOMECOMING OR FSU HOME GAMES. I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF EVENTS AROUND FAMU HOMECOMING AND FOOTBALL GAMES AS WELL. I THINK THAT THIS POLICY JUST NEEDS ANOTHER LOOK AT IT. SO I AM GOING TO MOVE TO NOT ACCEPT THIS POLICY AND SCHEDULE A WORKSHOP TO GO THROUGH IT AS WELL. >> THANK YOU. IS THERE A SECOND? >> I WILL SECOND THAT BECAUSE OF A COUPLE THINGS HE TOUCHED ON HERE. >> IS THERE A DISCUSSION THERE? WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE? >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. THIS ONE, I AM GLAD WE PULLED IT. I UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO BE ABLE TO MOVE WITH SPEED AND EFFICIENCY. I WILL JUST NOTE THAT MY ONLY CONCERN HERE IS THAT THERE IS NO LIMIT TO THE DELEGATION THE WAY THAT I READ IT. SO I UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR DELEGATION, AND I AM HAPPY DELEGATING TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. BUT IF WE BRING BACK A REVISION IN A WORKSHOP, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE A LIMIT SO THAT IT IS SOMETHING TO THE EXTENT OF DELEGATE TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR OR A STAFF MEMBER DIRECTLY REPORTING TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR SO THAT WE DO NOT FIND OUT THAT WE HAVE DELEGATED DOWN, DOWN, DOWN, SO THAT THE STAFF ACCOUNTANT IS SIGNING CONTRACTS OR SOMETHING. THAT IS ALL, THANK YOU. >> WE ARE NOT READY, COUNTY ADMINISTERED HER. MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THE $250,000 , CAN YOU WEIGH IN? >> YES, MA'AM. IF THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS ANY OF THESE IN PARTICULAR, THIS IS ALL CONSISTENT WITH APPROVED BUDGETS OF THE BOARD. SO YOU MAY HAVE AN EVENT, FOR EXAMPLE, A CROSS-COUNTRY EVENT. WE HAVE BROUGHT IT TO THE BOARD, THE BUDGET TO THE BOARD, ALL THE MAJOR CONTRACTS THAT KIND OF THING. YOU MAY HAVE AN ISSUE WHERE AS YOU GET CLOSER TO THE EVENT, YOU MAY NEED CONTRACTS WITH FOOD TRUCKS OR FOOD VENDORS. TO SAVE TIME, AS LONG AS IT IS WITHIN THE BUDGET, THAT IS WHERE WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DELEGATE THAT TO A DIRECTOR OF TOURISM. I HEAR WHAT COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE IS SAYING ABOUT THE LEVEL OF DELEGATION, THAT IS GENERALLY WHERE I STOP. BUT I UNDERSTAND THE DESIRE FOR CLARITY AROUND THAT. BUT, AGAIN, IF THIS IS SOMETHING THE BOARD WOULD LIKE A CLOSER LOOK AT, WE ARE HAPPY TO BRING THAT BACK AND GO INTO AN EXHAUSTIVE REVIEW OF WHY WE BELIEVE ALL THESE THINGS ARE NECESSARY AND IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COUNTY. >> THANK YOU. MR. COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR? COMMISSIONERS? OTHER COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER PROCTOR ARE? >> I LOOKED AT, WHAT IS THIS? 2.4, PAGE SEVEN, 220 OF 1067. IT ACTUALLY SAID THAT GRANT FUNDING WILL NOT BE CONSIDERED FOR EVENTS THAT HAVE OCCURRED DURING PEAK VISITOR PERIOD. THOSE WHO BALL GAME WEEKENDS, THEY ARE ANTICIPATED TO FILL EXISTING HOTEL ROOM INVENTORY. FAMU HOMECOMING WEEKENDS, THE SPRING AND FALL GRADUATION WEEKENDS, AND MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY DURING THE REGULAR STATE LEGISLATIVE SESSION. I AM NOT UNDERSTANDING WHY THOSE PERIODS OF PEOPLE GETTING, WHAT IS THE WORD? PRICE GOUGED. THESE ARE THE WEEKENDS THAT WE DO IT TO PEOPLE. IF THERE IS A TIME THAT WE SHOULD OFFSET COST AND OVERHEAD, THESE ARE THE MOMENTS WHEN YOU NEED IT. BECAUSE SOME OF THESE HOTELS AROUND THESE GRADUATION PERIODS, IT IS UNMERCIFUL. I THINK THE TOURIST DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL, ME SERVING ON THEIR, I THINK THE TOURISM DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL DOES A GREAT JOB. AND IF ANYTHING, THERE ARE TOO MANY EXTERNAL INFLUENCES AND INFLUENCERS THAT SPEAK TO THE RESOURCES, WAS THE TOURISM DEVELOPED COUNSEL HAS VOTED. AND IT HAS NOT BEEN JUST A SINGULAR OCCASION THAT OUR COUNTY HAS ASKED THE TOURISM DEVELOPMENT TO PAY FOR THE COST OF THIS OR THAT. COCA HAS SOME INTERACTION, AND I DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH DEMAND TO ARTICULATE THEIR PROCESSES. BUT THE TOURISM DEVELOPMENT PAYS FOR A LOT OF THINGS THAT IS NOT JUST REGULAR UNDER THEIR BANNER. SO I RECOGNIZE IT THAT THEY PICK UP THE TAB ON A LOT OF STUFF. BUT POSTURING THIS PERIOD AS A BLACKOUT PERIOD, I DISAGREE WITH. I DO NOT AGREE WITH IT. I SERVE ON THE TOURIST DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL. WE CANNOT GET THIS COUNTY COMMISSION, WE CANNOT GET THE CITIES COMMISSION. WE CANNOT GET FLORIDA STATE NOR FLORIDA UNIVERSITY TO RAISE THEIR WEAK VOICES WITH RESPECT TO PRICE GOUGING OF THEIR CONSTITUENTS. I DO NOT KNOW WHAT IT IS, AND I DO NOT KNOW WHY PRICES QUADRUPLE AND TRIPLE AROUND THESE PARTICULAR EVENTS. BUT I FEEL AS IF WE ARE CONSPIRING WITH THIS POLICY, WITH THE PRICE GOUGERS AND TO TELL YEARS, WHO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE PARENT, THE FAMILIES, THE ASSOCIATES, THE FRIENDS, THE ALUMNI, THE ALUMNI THAT COME BACK TO TALLAHASSEE DURING THIS PERIOD. AND I DON'T WANT TO BE A CO-CONSPIRATOR WITH GOUGING THE SUPPORT SYSTEM OF LEON COUNTY. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER PROCTOR. COMMISSIONER MADDOX? >> YES, MA'AM, MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU FOR CALLING ON ME. SO, HERE AGAIN, I DO NOT SEE A WHOLE BUNCH OF PROBLEM WITH THIS. IF THE BOARD WANTS YOU WORKSHOP IT, I AM NOT OPPOSED TO THAT. I DO NOT WANT TO REJECT THE POLICY, THE POLICY AND WORKSHOP AS BEING A STARTING POINT, SO I WOULD MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE POLICIES. THANK YOU. >> I WILL SECOND. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. WE HAVE MISS KERRY POST HERE. I THINK THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER WOULD LIKE YOU TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED. >> MADAM CHAIR, DID MY MOTION GET NO SECOND? >> IT WAS SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> WE ARE IN DISCUSSION NOW. >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I DID WANT TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INSIGHT INTO THE COMMENT ABOUT THE BLACKOUT DATES SO THAT THERE IS SOME UNDERSTANDING. THE TOURISM DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL APPROVES THE GUIDELINES AND BLACKOUT DATES EVERY YEAR. AND WHAT THIS SPECIFICALLY PERTAINS TO IS OUR TOURISM EVENT GRANT PROGRAM. AND WHAT THAT DOES, ESSENTIALLY, AGAIN, LOOKING AT ROI, IT IS LIKE YOU ARE SPENDING MONEY TO PROMOTE EVENTS, YET YOU HAVE NO CAPACITY FOR ADDITIONAL FOLKS TO COME INTO THE MARKET. SO WHEN YOU'RE HOTELS ARE FULL, YOU DO NOT NEED TO BE SUPPORTING EVENTS WHERE ALL WE ARE DOING IS HELPING THEM, STAY. IT IS OUTSIDE THE MARKETS BECAUSE WE HAVE NO MORE CAPACITY. ON THE MIAMI GAME, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE ARE AT CAPACITY, THE TD T HAS RECOGNIZED TO BLACKOUT THESE DATES TO THE EXTENT TO SAY, WHY FUND OTHER EVENTS IN THE MARKET AT THE SAME TIME? LITERALLY ON THE SAME WEEKEND. YOU ARE BASICALLY PLOPPING THEM ON TOP OF EACH OTHER WHEN YOU DO NOT HAVE THE CAPACITY TO ACCOMMODATE ADDITIONAL FOLKS IN THE MARKET. SO THAT IS WHY THE BLACKOUT DATES ARE THERE. I HEARD SOME COMMENTS EARLIER ABOUT THERE ARE SOME EVENTS THAT TAKE PLACE ON HOMECOMING OR, YOU KNOW, FAMILY RISING, FOR EXAMPLE. WE ARE MARKETING PARTNERSHIPS WITH THEM AND WITH THE GET DOWN. WE KNOW IT HELPS VISIBILITY, BUT NOT IN THE GRANT EVENT DOLLARS. THIS SPECIFICALLY PERTAINS TO EVENTS COMING TO THE TDC REQUESTING FUNDING FOR EVENTS THAT THEY WANT TO HOLD ON SPECIFIC WEEKENDS. AGAIN, IF WE ARE ALREADY SOLD OUT THAT WEEKEND, THAT IS WHY THE TDC PUT THIS IN PLACE TO SAY, SHIFT TO ANOTHER WEEKEND WHEN WE NEED THE BUSINESS AND CAN ACCOMMODATE THE BUSINESS. >> THANK YOU. DO COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR FOLKS? >> I WILL ASK ONE, AND THIS IS HYPOTHETICAL. SO THE FRENCHTOWN RISING EVENT PUTS TOGETHER A BIG PLATFORM FOR ALUMNI, FRIENDS, SUPPORTERS. THEY ARE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR FUNDING DURING THE FOOTBALL SEASON. I'M JUST USING ONE EXAMPLE HYPOTHETICALLY. >> AS IS IN THE TOURISM EVENT GRANT PROGRAM, THAT IS CORRECT. USING THE FRENCHTOWN RISING EVENT AS AN EXAMPLE, WE PROVIDE SPONSORSHIP DOLLARS TO THE ORGANIZATION. IT IS OUTSIDE THE GRANT PROGRAM, BECAUSE THE GRANT PROGRAM IS SPECIFICALLY, THE PURPOSE OF THE GRANT PROGRAMS IS TO GENERATE DESIRE IN A DESTINATION. WHEREAS FRENCHTOWN RISING EVENT IS ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE, IT IS A GREAT EVENT, BUT IT DOES NOT FIT IN THE GRANT PROGRAM. IS THAT WE PROVIDE SPONSORSHIP DOLLARS TO SUPPORT THAT EVENT, BECAUSE WE RECOGNIZE WHAT AN IMPORTANT EVENT IT IS IN THE MARKETS, BUT IT IS JUST NOT SUITABLE FOR THE TOURISM EVENT GRANT PROGRAM, THAT IS BASED UPON -- REGENERATION. >> THAT IS AN IMPORTANT DISTINCTION AND THE LINEARIZATION FOR ME. BUT TO THE EXTENT THAT I BELIEVE THE COUNTY COMMISSION SHOULD NOT ALL LOOK OVER THE SHOULDER OF THE TDC, I AM NOT AS STRONGLY COMPELLED THAT THE LORD SHOWED PAST TWO, AS I THINK THE COMMISSION ONCE YOU GAIN A SENSE TO INTERACT WITH THE PROCESSES. BUT NEVERTHELESS, I AM OPEN TO ALL OF US LEARNING ABOUT THE PROCESSES OF A VERY IMPORTANT INSTRUMENT. I AM SURE THAT KERRY IS WIDE OPEN. YOU ARE DOING AN OUTSTANDING JOB. I READ THE MAGAZINE LAST NIGHT THAT YOU ALL SHARED WITH US. AND IT REALLY WHET MY APPETITE. THAT IS A GREAT MAGAZINE THAT YOU PUT OUT AND SHARED WITH US YESTERDAY. BUT I AM OPEN TO THE DIRECTION OF THE BOARD, I APPRECIATE KNOWING THAT I HAVE MISREAD THE MEASURE IN PART TO IT SHUTTING OUT LOCAL VENDORS WHO ARE SPONSORING AND DOING THINGS, BUT THAT THERE IS A SPONSORSHIP CATEGORY. SO THAT CLEARS UP SOME STUFF. I WISH YOU HAD PUT THIS IN THE NOTES AND I WOULD NOT HAVE THIS ATTITUDE. [ LAUGHTER ] >> COMMISSIONER MINOR? >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. YEARS AGO, I WAS PART OF A GROUP THAT FORMED TALLAHASSEE MUSIC WEEK. DURING THAT TIME, WE GOT A FIRST RATE EDUCATION ON THE TOURISM INDUSTRY HERE LOCALLY. THAT IS WHEN I FIRST GOT A CHANCE TO WORK WITH YOU, CARRIE. AT THAT TIME, I LEARNED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE ALL KNEW THIS PART, OUR TOURISM PEAKS DURING THE OFF-SEASON AND DURING THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION. IT IS A HUGE PEAK. AND FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR, FOR A LARGE PART, IT IS A BIG VALLEY. A BIG PART OF WHAT CARRIE AND HER TEAM ARE TRYING TO DO AS WELL, ANYONE FOCUSED ON ENHANCING TOURISM IS TO TRY TO FILL IN THOSE VALLEYS. RIGHT? SO THAT IS WHAT THIS GRANT IS ALL ABOUT. I SHARE YOUR CONCERN REGARDING HOW IT MIGHT AFFECT FRENCHTOWN RISING AND SOME OTHER EVENTS. BUT BECAUSE OF THE SPONSORSHIP, I THINK IT IS A SMART APPROACH. WHAT WE COULD DO WITH THIS GRANT IS ENCOURAGED FRENCHTOWN, PROVIDENCE, OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS TO POSTEVENT AND APPLY FOR GRANT FUNDING DURING THAT VALLEY PERIOD. BECAUSE THE BEST AND EASIEST WAY FOR US TO MAXIMIZE OUR TOURISM REVENUE IS TO FILL IN THOSE VALLEYS. THAT IS WHAT THIS GRANT IS DESIGNED TO DO. DOES THAT CORROBORATE WITH WHAT YOUR PERSPECTIVE IS ON THIS? >> THAT IS CORRECT. WHEN WE ARE LOOKING FOR BUSINESS THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE YEAR, THAT IS EXACTLY WHEN WE WANT TO HELP INCENTIVIZE AND STIMULATE EVENTS. >> ANOTHER REASON, OUR RESTAURANTS STAFF UP DURING OUR PEAKS. OFTEN, THEY THEN HAVE TO LET EMPLOYEES GO DURING THE VALLEYS. AND WHEN THE NEXT PEAK COMES ALONG, THEY HAVE TO HIRE NEW PEOPLE, RETRAIN THEM, AND IT IS INCREDIBLY EXPENSIVE AND INEFFICIENT. IF WE COULD BRING TOURISM DOLLARS DURING THOSE LOW., WE CAN HAVE MORE BUSINESS AND OTHER BUSINESSES HAVE SUSTAINED EMPLOYEE WORKFORCES. THAT IS BETTER FOR THE EMPLOYEE, BUT FOR THE BUSINESS, BUT ARE FOR OUR LOCAL ECONOMY. THIS IS A GOOD, SMART, STRATEGIC APPROACH FOR THE GRANT. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MINOR. I DO APPRECIATE THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN CATEGORIES YOU ALL LOOK AT FOR EVENTS. IN THE CITY, IN THE COMMUNITY. AND THE QUALIFICATIONS ARE DIFFERENT DEPENDING ON THE TIME OF YEAR, LOCATION, WHAT HAVE YOU. IT IS NOT LIKE A ONE-STOP SHOP. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES AND SEE WHAT IS APPLICABLE AND WHAT IS NOT, WHO IS ELIGIBLE AND WHO IS NOT. SO, THANK YOU GUYS FOR A GREAT JOB. WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. COMMISSIONER MADDOX, I BELIEVE YOU MADE A MOTION, YOU HAVE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION ON THE FLOOR, I BELIEVE. YOU MADE THE MOTION TO, I BELIEVE, ACCEPT THE POLICY, AND IT WAS SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE. THAT WAS A SUBSTITUTE MOTION. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KNOW WHERE WE ARE. OKAY. COMMISSIONER CABAN. YOU HAVE A COMMENT? >> YES MA'AM, I DO. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I WILL NOT SUBSTITUTE THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION. I THINK WE ARE BEING INCONSISTENT AS A BOARD IF WE VOTE FOR THAT MOTION, JUST ON THE PRIOR AGENDA ITEM. WE DID NOT APPROVE IT. WE VOTED TO HAVE A WORKSHOP TO DISCUSS IT AND THEN COME BACK TO IT. I THINK THAT IF WE ACCEPT THIS RIGHT NOW WITH THE CHANGES IN THE WORKSHOP, WE ARE BEING INCONSISTENT. I HEAR WHAT COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE WAS SAYING ABOUT THE DELEGATION. I UNDERSTAND THAT VERY THOROUGHLY. IN MY BUSINESSES, THERE ARE A LOT OF TASKS THAT WE DELEGATE, BUT I THINK IT IS HEALTHY FOR TAXPAYERS AND CONSTITUENTS TO HAVE A LAYER OF COMFORT . I UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN WE HAVE EVENTS, THERE MAY BE A FOOD TRUCK, THAT IS WHY WE HAVE THE THRESHOLD. I DO NOT THINK WE ARE HIRING $250,000 WORTH OF FOOD TRUCKS. I APPRECIATE WHERE WE ARE COMING FROM , BUT I THINK WE ARE BEING INCONSISTENT RIGHT NOW. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CABAN. BECAUSE THE INITIAL MOTION WAS TO WORKSHOP IT, IF I AM NOT MISTAKEN. IS THAT CORRECT? PLEASE SUBSTITUTE NOW IS TO APPROVE IT AND THEN WORKSHOP IT. SO I UNDERSTAND COMMISSIONER CABAN'S CONCERN. >> NO, THAT MOTION, THAT MOTION WAS JUST TO APPROVE THE POLICY. >> I'M SORRY. COMMISSIONER MADDOX, WILLIE REPEAT? >> YES, THAT WAS JUST TO APPROVE THE POLICY, THERE WAS A WORKSHOP ON IT. >> OKAY, TO APPROVE THE POLICY, NO WORKSHOP. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION BRIEFLY? >> MADAM CHAIR, I BRIEFLY WANT TO SAY THAT KERRY KNOWS THAT I FAILED THIS YEAR DURING A PRICE GOUGING AT THE TDC, I FAILED THIS YEAR TO BRING UP PRICE GOUGING HERE AT THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. AND THE REASON THAT I FELT I WAS NOT GOING TO GET ANY TRACTION THIS YEAR WAS BECAUSE WE HAD THE NUMBER FOUR TEAM IN THE UNITED STATES, AND WE HAD A TEAM AND ROUTE BECOMING A NATIONAL CHAMPION. YOU'VE GOT TWO TEAMS WITH A RECORD 25-2, THEY COULD'VE CHARGED $2000 A NIGHT THIS YEAR. AND SO I KNEW THAT IF NOBODY WAS GOING TO LISTEN OR PAY ATTENTION. I STILL THINK THAT NOTWITHSTANDING, WINNING DOES MAKE UP, BUT I STILL THINK QUADRUPLING THE PRICES OF A ROOM IS A BIT MUCH FOR GRADUATIONS AND ALL OF THAT. I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE START. IT IS SOMETHING TO NOTE THAT JUST MORALLY, IT IS NOT RIGHT. PEOPLE WHOSE CHILDREN ARE IN THESE EVENTS, THEY CERTAINLY DO NOT MAKE THAT KIND OF MONEY, MANY OF THEM, MOST OF THEM. THAT IS WHY I REMAINED SILENT, BECAUSE IT JUST FELT LIKE I WAS WASTING BREATH. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? LET ME JUST SAY, I HAVE READ THIS POLICY. I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS ON ALL THE WORKS THAT THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR HAS HAD ON IT. BUT I FEEL COMFORTABLE ABOUT IT. COMMISSIONER CABAN, BECAUSE IT DOES LOOK AT VARIOUS EVENTS THAT WILL HAPPEN THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. AND WE HAVE CLEAR DIRECTION ON WHAT IS PERMISSIBLE, WHAT IS NOT. IT IS NOT EXCLUSIONARY. AND EVEN KNOWING PERSONALLY THAT THEY SUPPORT A CERTAIN EVENT IN THE COMMUNITY, IT DOES NOT GIVE ME ANY MAJOR CONCERNS WITH WHAT WE HAD BEFORE. SO I WOULD BE SUPPORTING COMMISSIONER MADDOX 'ASK MOTION TO APPROVE THIS POLICY. IF THERE ARE NO OTHER COMMENTS, THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS TO APPROVE THE POLICY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, LET IT BE KNOWN BY SAYING AYE. ANY OPPOSITION? THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. MR. COUNTY ADMINISTERED A? >> THINK YOU COULD THE NEXT ITEM POOLED WAS PULLED BY COMMISSIONER MINOR ON ITEM NUMBER 13. THE REVERSE IS AGREEMENT BETWEEN FLORIDA GULF AND ATLANTA RAILROAD LLC FOR THE CROSSINGS. >> THANK YOU. I LIVED FOR A SHORT TIME OFF OF TOWER ROAD. BACK THEN, THIS RAILROAD CROSSING WAS IN BAD SHAPE, BUT IT HAS GOTTEN MUCH WORSE RECENTLY. AND SO I JUST WANTED TO PULL THIS ITEM TO THINK THE COUNTY , TO THINK FLORIDA GULF AND ATLANTIC RAILROAD TO ADDRESS THIS. IT IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF SEEING NEEDS FROM THE NEIGHBORS THAT HAVE TO DRIVE OVER THAT RAILROAD CROSSING. AND IT IS TO THE POINT WHERE I BELIEVE IT COULD DAMAGE VEHICLES. SO IT REALLY IS NECESSARY. I JUST WANT TO THANK THE COUNTY, THINK THE PHOTOGRAPH AND ATLANTIC RAILROAD FOR MAKING THIS AGREEMENT AND GETTING THE WORK DONE. I MOVED TO APPROVE OPTION ONE. >> THANK YOU. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, LET IT BE KNOWN BY SAYING AYE. ANY OPPOSITION? COMMISSIONER MADDOCK? >> AYE. >> THANK YOU, AND I VOTE AYE. IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. MR. COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR? >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. NUMBER 14, EIGHT RATIFICATION OF THE JOINT PROJECT AGREEMENT BETWEEN LEON COUNTY AND BLUEPRINT INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGENCY FOR THE MAGNOLIA DRIVE MULTIUSE TRAIL PROJECT. IT AMEND THE TERMS OF THE CONTRACT TO ALLOW A BLUEPRINT TO FINISH UP THAT CONTRACT WORK. THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL CHANGING OF TERMS, OTHER THAN THAT WHICH HAVE BEEN PREVIOUSLY APPROVED BY THE BOARD. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. >> THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER LONG? >> THANK YOU. I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN A SIDEWALK AND MULTIUSE TRAIL PROJECT. WHAT IS THE DISTINCTION? >> IT IS WIDER. IT WOULD ALLOW THE MULTIVEHICLE TO USE IT. LIKE BICYCLES AND PEDESTRIANS. >> THIS IS FOR MAGNOLIA, FROM GREENWAY ROAD? >> IT WILL BE FROM PONTIAC DRIVE, THEN TO DIAMOND. >> OKAY. THAT PART, WE APPROVED THIS PROJECT, I BELIEVE ON THE SAME DAY OR THE SAME NIGHT, AT THE SAME TIME AND THE MAGNOLIA SIDEWALK PROJECT. FROM MUNRO TO PONTIAC, IT HAS BEEN COMPLETED NOW FOR POSSIBLY TWO YEARS. AND ON THE SAME ROAD, WITH THE SAME VOTE, THE SAME PEOPLE VOTED FOR IT, AND WHAT HINDERED THE COMPLETION OF MAGNOLIA DRIVES SIDEWALK? >> WE NEED TO ACQUIRE THE RIGHT OF WAY FIRST. NOW THEY HAVE ORDERED ADDITIONAL RIGHT-OF-WAY REQUIRES SO THAT WE CAN START DOING CONSTRUCTION. BUT THE NEXT PHASE, FROM PONTIAC DRIVE IN DIAMOND DRIVE , WE ARE GOING TO BRING AN ITEM TO THE BOARD FOR THE BILL OF CONSTRUCTION IN THE NEXT MEETING IN FEBRUARY. >> OKAY. >> ON THE ENGINEERING PART. WHEN YOU GET TO GENERALLY, WOULD YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD? YOU KNOW WHEN YOU CROSS GENLEE COME ACROSS THE ROAD, THERE IS A DIP . >> YES. THERE WOULD BE A NEW SIGNAL AT GENLEE . IT WOULD SIGNALIZED THAT INTERSECTION AS PART OF THIS PROJECT. >> NO EQUITY, I AM THINKING IN EQUITY. A MULTI USE TRAIL. IS THAT WHAT IS CURRENTLY AVAILABLE ON MAGNOLIA? OR IS THAT JUST A SIDEWALK? >> THAT IS THE MAGNOLIA TRAIL RIGHT NOW. THAT PART IS COMPLETED. >> WE ARE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING THE SAME STUFF GOING NORTH? >> EAST AND THEN NORTH. YES. >> OKAY. I AM CURIOUS. IS THERE A STARTING TIME OR COMPLETION EXPECTATION? >> SORRY, COMMISSIONER, I KNOW I AM TALKING IN HER DISTRICT RIGHT NOW. BUT WE HAVE BEEN LABORING WITH THIS PARTNER FOREVER. >> THEY ARE ALL OUR CONSTITUENTS. YOU GO RIGHT AHEAD. >> IF THE BOARD AWARDED THE BID IN FEBRUARY FOR THE TRAIL FROM PONTIAC DRIVE TO DIAMOND IN FEBRUARY , WE BELIEVE THAT MAYBE IN SIX WEEKS, WE CAN START CONSTRUCTION. IT DEPENDS ON THE CONTRACT THERE AND THE NEED TO ORDER MATERIALS. ANTICIPATING THE DURATION IS NINE MONTHS. >> OKAY. COMMISSIONER CUMMINGS, IT HAS BEEN, COMPLETING THIS HAS JUST BEEN AMAZINGLY HARD. AND THAT FIRST LEG HAS BEEN A TREMENDOUS IMPROVEMENT THERE ON MAGNOLIA. IT IS JUST THAT I HAVE BEEN PERPLEXED BY WHY IT STOPPED. WE HAVE ALREADY APPROVED THIS. NOW WE HAVE TO COME BACK. THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATORS OF THE TERMS ARE ALL THE SAME AND WE ARE NOT LOSING MONEY, WE ARE SPENDING MORE TO COMPLETE IT. BUT GOD KNOWS IT IS BADLY NEEDED. I AM SALUTING THE TAKEOFF AND COMPLETION TIME. WHAT WAS COMPLETION AGAIN? >> NINE MONTHS. >> OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER PROCTOR. THANK YOU, HOLD ON ONE SECOND. DO ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE? >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR AND COMMISSIONER PROCTOR. YOU WERE RIGHT ON. I AM GLAD TO HEAR SIX WEEKS +9 MONTHS. I AM EXCITED FOR IT, I WILL BE DOWN THERE WITH COMMISSIONER PROCTOR GETTING MY STEPS IN ONCE IT IS OPEN. AND I WILL JUST SAY THAT OUR NEIGHBORS ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS. WHEN I WENT KNOCKING DOORS LAST YEAR, NO OFFENSE TO THE COUNTY COMMISSION, NO ONE KNOWS WHAT WE DO EXCEPT FOR TWO THINGS. THE THING THAT SHALL BE UNNAMED, AND THE SIDEWALK. THIS IS SOMETHING PEOPLE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR A LONG TIME, SO THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR THOSE COMMENTS, COMMISSIONER. I WOULD LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT -- >> I MOVE FOR THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. >> THANK YOU. IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, LET IT BE KNOWN BY SAYING AYE. >> THANK YOU. I VOTE AYE. ITEM NUMBER 14 IS ACCEPTED. COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, BACK TO YOU. >> THE FINAL CONSENT ITEM PULLED IS ITEM NUMBER 17. THIS IS A REVISED ENABLING RESOLUTION FOR THE MICCOSUKEE CANOPY ROAD GREENWAY CITIZENS COMMITTEE. YOU MAY RECALL THAT YOU PREVIOUSLY APPROVED THIS AS A FOCUS GROUP. HOWEVER, THINGS COME IN TERMS OF THE NATURE OF THE WORK WE ARE DOING, REQUIRED HER TO BECOME A DECISION-MAKING COMMITTEE, WHICH SETS OFF ADDITIONAL CHANGES IN THE REVISED RESOLUTION THAT IS BEFORE YOU. AGAIN, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE ON THIS ITEM. WE DO HAVE, AS A NOTICED, IF YOU SPEAKER CARDS. >> THANK YOU. THE FIRST SPEAKER, SUE NUNEZ. >> THANK YOU. >> MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS , AS A MEMBER OF THE CITIZENS COMMITTEE FOR THE McKISSICK HE GREENWAY, I AM CONFUSED ABOUT THE NEED TO CHANGE THE ROLE OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION STAFF AS IT PERTAINS TO THE OPERATION OF THIS COMMITTEE. I SERVED ON THE FOR THE RECREATIONAL TRAILS COUNCIL, THE FLORIDA GREENWAYS COUNCIL, THE GREENWAYS COORDINATING COUNCIL, AND OTHER STATEWIDE ORGANIZATIONS. THE ONES THAT OPERATED VIA A CITIZENS CHAIR, NOT PART OF THE GOVERNING BODY, AND A BETTER ENVIRONMENT TO FOCUS ON THE ISSUES AT HAND. IT IS SORT OF LIKE BEING SUBJECT TO FEELING LIKE YOU ARE BACK IN SCHOOL TO LEARN FROM A TEACHER. IT ALLOWED EACH MEMBER TO USE THEIR EXPERTISE AND CREATIVITY TO THE FULLEST, FOR THE GOOD OF THE PURPOSE AT HAND. YOUR COMMISSION POLICY 3 E- 15 LISTS STAFF RESPONSIBILITIES FOR COMMITTEES. ONE OF THEM IS TO ENSURE THE COMMITTEE ELECTS A CHAIR. YOU ARE TRYING TO TAKE THIS RESPONSIBILITY AWAY FROM THE COMMITTEE AND PUT IT IN THE POSITION OF BEING A STUDENT. I REQUEST THAT YOU ALLOW THIS COMMITTEE TO ELECT WHO THEY WANT AS CHAIR, RATHER THAN THE COUNTY DOING SO. THIS GREENWAY WILL BECOME MORE OF A HAVEN FOR ALL OF NATURE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AND ROADS THAT ARE COMING. THAT ARE ALREADY BEGINNING TO EFFECT IT. THE MEMBERS OF THIS COMMITTEE ARE EXPERTS IN THEIR FIELDS AND DESERVE TO GIVE THIS GREENWAY THE BEST CHANCE TO SUCCEED. PLEASE REJECT THIS RESOLUTION AND LET US DO OUR JOB WITH THE HELP OF YOUR STAFF. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> NEXT SPEAKER, ROBERT LOMBARDI. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MISS CHAIR AND MEMBERS. I HAVE BEEN THE PRESIDENT OF THE MICCOSUKEE CANOPY ROADS GREENWAY FOR ABOUT 20 YEARS. IN A VOLUNTEER, A LEON COUNTY VOLUNTEER FOR ABOUT 35 YEARS. I HAVE BEEN HERE BEFORE AND TALK TO YOU BEFORE. THE MICCOSUKEE CANOPY ROAD GREENWAY IS A STATE PARK, 500 ACRES THAT WAS GIVEN, ACTUALLY GIVEN, TO LEON COUNTY TO MANAGE BACK IN 2003, I BELIEVE. THE MANAGEMENT PLAN FOR THE McKISSICK HE GREENWAY IN THE CITIZENS COMMITTEE IS THE ISSUE THAT YOU ARE NOW DEALING WITH , WITH THIS RESOLUTION. OUR PUBLIC PARKS AND THE EXPERIENCE UNPRECEDENTED RECREATIONAL USE ANY NEXT 10 TO 20 YEARS, AS NEW HOMES SURROUND THE McKISSICK HE GREENWAY, THE NEXT MANAGEMENT PLAN MUST ADDRESS THESE MANAGEMENT CHALLENGES WITH THE BEST LAND MANAGEMENT EXPERTS FAMILIAR WITH THE GREENWAY. MOST OF THESE ARE VOLUNTEERS NOW , AND THEY LIVE IN LEON COUNTY. FRIENDS OF THE MICCOSUKEE CANOPY ROAD GREENWAYS ARE A NETWORK OF THOSE VOLUNTEERS WHO HAVE BEEN WORKING SIDE-BY-SIDE WITH YOUR STAFF AND LEON COUNTY PARKS AND RECREATION FOR 25 YEARS. OUR PARTNERS INCLUDE THE SCIENTISTS THAT KNOW THIS PROPERTY AND KNOW THE FEATURES MOST LIKELY TO SUFFER, OR TO THRIVE WHEN RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT TAKES UP MORE OF OUR OPEN SPACE. COLLABORATING WITH THESE SCIENTISTS, I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT SOME ROCKET SCIENTIST, I'M TALKING A BIOLOGIST WHO WORK OUT IN THE FIELD, SCRUB AROUND IN THE DIRT, LOOKING FOR THINGS THAT MIGHT BE SAVABLE, BUT ALSO LAND MANAGEMENT, LAND MANAGERS, FARMERS, EQUESTRIANS, TRAIL EXPERTS, PLANNERS, LOCAL GOVERNMENT STAFF. ALL OF THESE HAVE HELPED US PROTECT WHAT WE CAN, AND TO MINIMIZE DAMAGE WHEN WE CANNOT. THE MANAGEMENT PLAN WAS WRITTEN IN 2013 . AND IT BECAME OUR WISH LIST, REALLY, FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS. THOSE 10 YEARS ARE NOW UP . NOW WE FACE A TEN-YEAR FUTURE THAT IS QUITE DIFFERENT. THE NEW PLAN WILL BE REALISTIC, IT WILL BE MATCHING RESOURCES OF YOURS WITH OUR VOLUNTEERS TO COME UP WITH GOALS ABOUT EVALUATING THE BEST PRACTICES THAT ADDRESS THE PRESSURE OF MORE PEOPLE AND MORE MAINTENANCE. OUR VOLUNTEERS WORKING IN THE FIELD, AS WE DO OFTEN, TRIMMING TRAILS FROM HORSEBACK OR WHILE WALKING , THIS IS OUR CONCEPT OF VOLUNTEERING. WE DO NOT SIT AROUND AND TALK ABOUT THINGS, WE GO OUT AND FIX THINGS. ADDRESSING THE PRESSURES OF RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT WILL BE THE CHALLENGE OF OUR NEAR FUTURE. I THINK YOU KNOW THAT VERY WELL. THIS IS NOT THE TIME TO CREATE A MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT MINIMIZES THIS CHALLENGE. THIS IS THE TIME TO MEET THAT CHALLENGE. WITH WELL DESIGNED PLANS TO DRAW THE NEAR FUTURE, EXPAND OUR NETWORK OF INTERESTED VOLUNTEERS TO GET THE WORK DONE. I AM A LITTLE OVER, I AM SORRY. TODAY'S RESOLUTION FALLS SHORT OF THIS CHALLENGE. THREE THINGS THAT I WANT TO POINT OUT. THE FUTURE PLAN MUST DIRECTLY RELATE TO THE CHALLENGES WE FACE, NOT JUST THINGS WE WANT TO FIX BECAUSE WE KNOW HOW. EXPERTS CAN ADVISE US ON WHICH APPROACHES ARE NEEDED IN AREAS FROM REPAIRS TO MULTI USE TRAILS TO GOING STRATEGIES OF THE USERS. THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE WALKING, BABY CARRIAGES THAT ARE TRYING TO MAKE IT ACROSS OUR TRAIL SYSTEMS, DODGING TRAFFIC AT OUR CROSSINGS. THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY CREATE THE PUBLIC PURPOSE. WE BELIEVE THE RESOLUTION BEFORE YOU TODAY DOES NOT ADDRESS THE NEEDS FOR LEADERSHIP THAT FREELY EXPLORES OPTIONS, RECOMMENDS PRIORITIES, AND WORKS CLOSELY WITH STAFF. AS WE HAVE DONE ALL THESE YEARS. WE BELIEVE THE RESOLUTION TO RECOGNIZE THE OPTIMAL GROWTH DIVIDES FOR THE RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES, AND PLANS TO PROVIDE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES THROUGH THE GREENWAY PROGRAM. WE HOPE TO BE YOUR PARTNER FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MR. LOMBARDI. >> NEXT SPEAKER, ERIN DRAPER. >> THINK YOU VERY MUCH, ERIC DRAPER. I AM NOW A VOLUNTEER WITH CAPITAL CITY CYCLISTS, ALSO A COUNTY APPOINTEE ON THE BICYCLE WORKING GROUP. IT HAS BEEN A GREAT EXPERIENCE. I AM HERE FOR THE REVISED RESOLUTION THAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED . I WANT TO THANK YOU SO MUCH, COMMISSIONERS, FOR PROVIDING SO MANY BEAUTIFUL AND WELL-MAINTAINED COUNTY PARK. THE COUNTY RESIDENTS ARE REALLY LUCKY TO HAVE SO MANY NICE PLACES TO RECREATE AND ENJOY. I ENJOY THIS SLIDESHOW SHOWING COMMISSIONER MINOR PLANTING A TREE ON THE WEEKEND OF MARTIN LUTHER KING DAY. THE McKISSICK HE GREENWAY IS UNIQUE AMONG COUNTY PARKS IN BELONGING TO AND BEING LEASED FROM THE STATE OF FLORIDA. 500 ACRES OF CONSERVATION LAND, CONSERVATION LAND HAS A LEGAL MEANING UNDER STATE LAW. MOSTLY UNBROKEN TRAILS WHERE PEOPLE CAN GET AWAY FROM TRAFFIC AND SAFELY WALK. NICE TO SEE THE MULTIUSE TRAIL AMONG ROADS. BUT THIS IS ONE THAT YOU CAN GET OUT AND WALK SEVERAL MILES AWAY FROM TRAFFIC. AS A CONDITION OF THE COUNTY'S LEASE, AND BECAUSE THE GREENWAY IS CONSERVATION LAND, THE GOVERNOR HAS TO APPROVE -- DELEGATED BY COUNSEL, BUT IT IS THEIR APPROVAL, IT IS THEIR LAND. AND THAT IS WHAT WE GO ALONG WITH FORGETTING TO HAVE FREED THE USE OF 500 ACRES, WHICH IS WORTH $4 MILLION WHEN IT WAS PURCHASED. YOU CAN IMAGINE IT IS WORTH WAY MORE THAN THAT RIGHT NOW. THE STATE PAID THOSE DOLLARS. WE'VE JUST GOT TO TAKE CARE OF IT. AS A DIRECTOR OF STATE PARK, I SENT OFF MANY MANAGEMENT PLANS, ADVISORIES COMMITTEES PLAYED AN IMPORTANT ROLE IN HELPING TO SHAPE THOSE PLANS. SOMETIMES THEY HAD TO KEEP US HONEST. AND SOMETIMES THEY MADE US DO THINGS THAT WERE INCONVENIENT. BUT THEY ARE REALLY VALUABLE. SO MUCH EXPERTISE THAT YOU WOULD NOT OTHERWISE HAVE WITH STAFF. ONE OF THE MOST INFLUENTIAL MEMBERS OF THAT CAME FROM CITIZENS ORGANIZATIONS, AND THOSE STATE LEVELS GENERATE $4 MILLION IN CONTRIBUTIONS AND PROVIDE FOR THEM -- WHAT DID I SAY HERE? EXCUSE ME, 1 MILLION HOURS OF SERVICE. NOW I WANT TO THINK OF CLAY STATE PARK, WHERE THE ORGANIZATION PUT ON A FAMOUS MOON OVER McCLAY. THAT IS AN EXAMPLE OF CSO. SO I HAVE COME TO ADMIRE THE FRIENDS OF MICCOSUKEE CANOPY ROAD GREENWAY, THE IMPROVED GREENWAY, YOU MADE IT EVEN BETTER. THE FRIENDS GROUP AND OTHERS WERE WORRIED ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THE PARK, WE NEED TO BE WORRIED ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THE PARK BECAUSE IT WILL BE -- I WILL JUST BE VERY QUICK AND WRAP UP. IT WILL BE FRAGMENTED BY ALL THESE ROADS. IT WILL NOT BE 10 YEARS FROM NOW ACCORDING TO THIS MANAGEMENT PLAN. ACCORDING TO THIS NOW, WE HAVE TO LOOK INTO THE FUTURE AND THINK ABOUT WHAT THAT ACTUALLY WILL BE LIKE. WE HAVE TO CALL UPON THIS GROUP TO DO THAT. I AM FORTUNATE TO GET INCLUDED IN THAT ADVISORY COMMITTEE. AND I ACCEPT THE FACT THEY HAVE DECIDED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS OPERATING, THAT IS PART OF WHAT YOUR RESOLUTION DOES, TO MAKE IT A DECISION-MAKING COMMITTEE. AT THE SAME TIME, FOR REASONS WE DO NOT UNDERSTAND, RESOLUTION MADE THE CHAIR THE ADVISORY OF THE COMMITTEE. I THINK IT IS BETTER AND CONSISTENT WITH ALL SORTS OF OTHER COMMITTEES THAT ALL OF US HAVE SERVED ON, AS THE MEMBERS ACTUALLY SET THE PROCESS. ALLOWED THE MEMBERS TO SELECT THE BEST AMONG THEM TO BE THE CHAIR IN THE SAME WAY THAT YOU HAVE A CHAIR ELECTED AMONGST YOURSELVES TO SET THE AGENDA, SET THE PACE, MAKE SURE EVERYONE IS LISTENED TO, AND ALL THE QUESTIONS GET RESOLVED. THAT IS WHAT WE ARE ASKING OF YOU HERE TODAY. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> FINAL SPEAKER ON THIS, BRETT BARTEL. >> THANK YOU. BRETT BARTEL. I AM PROBABLY ONE OF THE FEW BUSINESSES THAT HAVE A NEED FOR THE GREENLAND. THE SPACE IS NOT ENOUGH FOR HORSES. I'VE GOT PEOPLE NOW, I'VE BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH, WHEN IT WAS A DIRT ROAD AND ACCESSIBLE FOR HORSES AND PEOPLE. NOW GOING ON 90, I CAN SHOW YOU THE TRAFFIC THAT GOES BY. WE NOW HAVE TO HAVE PEOPLE WITH TRUCKS AND TRAILERS TO LEAVE MY OWN PROPERTY TO GET TO THE GREENWAY SAFER. IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE. ALL OF THE PLACES I HAVE LIVED, JACKSONVILLE, ATLANTA, LONDON, THIS GREENWAY COULD BE LIKE NOTHING ELSE IF WE PUT IT TOGETHER RIGHT AND KEEP IT CONTINUOUS. IF WE KEEP THE ACTIVITY AROUND IT. THE TOURISM IN THE BAG IN IT, WE CAN PICK IT BACK UP. WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT KIND OF DRAW OF THE GREENWAY AND THE USAGE OF IT. WHEN I WORKED AT MAILING INFORMATION SYSTEMS, NOBODY KNEW WHAT IT WAS FOR THE MOST PART. THEY CAME BACK IN 2006, THEY SAW HOW GOOD IT WAS DOING, HE GAVE ME INCENTIVE. I COULD GET CHOKED UP IF THIS KEEPS HAPPENING. ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO GET INTO THE GREENWAY CITIZENS GROUP, I WOULD LOVE TO BE PART OF THAT. COME SEE MY FARM IN THE MORNING. SEE THE WILDLIFE. SEE THE THINGS I SEE. THE DEER, THE TURKEYS COME THE BOBCATS, HOW MY HORSES WATCH THEM. THIS IS HEALING. WE NEED THE INCLUSION OF EVERYTHING, NOT JUST A SPECIFIC GROUP TO CHOKE OFF THE WILDLIFE . TO SOME EXTENT, IT WILL CHOKE IT OFF IF WE DO NOT FIND A WAY TO MAKE SURE IT IS STILL VERY ACCESSIBLE. I FEEL LIKE IT HAS NOT BEEN FOR US FOR A LONG TIME. ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO STEP FORWARD AS THIS IS HAPPENING WOULD BE GREAT. WE KNOW THAT AMAZON WAS NEVER PLANNED BEFORE THIS. IT HAS AFFECTED MY FRONT AND BACK DOOR. I WOULD LIKE TO BE INVOLVED THOUGH. I GREATLY APPRECIATED. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THINK YOU , MR. BARTEL. MR. COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR? >> MADAM CHAIR, VERY QUICKLY ON THIS ITEM, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK MAGGIE TO COME UP TO THE PODIUM REAL QUICK. I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED, I JUST WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO PROVIDE A BIT OF CLARIFICATION. RHAPSODY FOUND OURSELVES IN A BIT OF A TECHNICAL CHALLENGE IN DEALING WITH THIS ISSUE. FIRST OF ALL, IF YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT LEON COUNTY, YOU KNOW THE LINKS OF WHICH WE GO TO GET FULL SYSTEM ANTICIPATION. WE NEED CITIZENS ON THIS COMMITTEE. IT CERTAINLY WOULD NOT MEET MAGGIE OR AMANDA, IF YOU KNOW THE TWO OF THEM TO EXERT THEIR WILL IN ANY WAY ON THIS BOARD, BUT RATHER TO FACILITATE THE MOST ROBUST CITIZEN ENGAGEMENT WE COULD GET FROM THIS COMMITTEE, THAT IS JUST WHAT WE DO. WHAT WE HAVE THERE IS A TECHNICAL ISSUE HERE RELATED TO AMANDA HEIDEGGER'S STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS TO BE ON THE COMMITTEE IN HER DESIGNATION WITH THE LEAD IN RESPECT TO THE MANAGEMENT PLAN IN FACILITATING THIS COMMITTEE WITHOUT THE POTENTIAL OF VIOLATING ANY SUNSHINE LAW ISSUES NOW THAT IT IS A DECISION-MAKING COMMITTEE. >> THANK YOU FOR CLEARING THAT UP. FIRST AND FOREMOST, MY HEART FOR ROB, SUE, ERIC, AND OTHERS . I ENDORSE EVERYTHING THEY SAID ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS COLLABORATION AND FOLKS LIKE ROB WHO HAVE BEEN INVOLVED SINCE 1998 IN HIS PROPERTY, WHEN IT BECAME THE PROPERTY THAT WE KNOW TODAY. IT IS THEIR LEGACY WE ARE BUILDING ON IN HIS DEVELOPMENT. I THINK EACH OF YOU FOR THAT. SPECIFIC TO THE CHAIR ROLE, WHEN THIS IS A FOCUS GROUP -- WHEN COUNTY POLICY DICTATES, WHEN IT IS BECOMING A DECISION-MAKING BODY AS THE RESOLUTION IS PROPOSING TONIGHT. AND THAT, AS HE ADMINISTERED WAS SHARING, THERE ARE STRICT SUNSHINE LAWS THAT WE HAVE TO ABIDE BY, FOR THE STAFF AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. BECAUSE THE STATE MANDATE THE MAKE UP OF AT LEAST 11 OF THE 14 MEMBERS WILL HAVE ON THIS COMMITTEE, INCLUDING A REPRESENTATIVE OF YOUR COMMISSION, COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE TO SERVE, WE HAVE LESS LATITUDE THAN WE WOULD ON OTHER DECISION-MAKING COMMITTEES. BECAUSE OUR PARKS DIRECTOR IS AN APPOINTED MEMBER OF THIS COMMITTEE, THERE ARE A LOT OF LIMITATIONS WHEN IT COMES TO SUNSHINE TO MEDICATION, PREPARING FOR THESE MEETINGS, THESE MEETING MINUTES AND COLLABORATING WITH THE CHAIRMAN AS YOU TRADITIONALLY WOULD TO PREPARE FOR MEETINGS LIKE THIS. IT REALLY WAS MUCH MORE OF A PRACTICAL SOLUTION. BUT WE ARE AT THE WILL OF YOUR LEADERSHIP, IF THERE IS AN ALTERNATIVE APPROACH, WE WILL BRING THAT. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, ANYTHING FIRST? >> KNOW. >> I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER MINOR PULLED THIS ITEM. I WILL GIVE THIS OVER TO YOU. >> YOU DID NOT PULL 17? >> ACTUALLY, YOU'RE RIGHT. I GOT MY AGENDA ITEMS MIXED UP. YOU ARE CORRECT, MA'AM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM CHAIR. I APPRECIATE IT. I WANT TO THANK THE FOLKS THAT CAME TO SPEAK TODAY. SOME OF THE FOLKS UPON THE COMMISSION FOR A WHILE HAVE MAYBE HEARD ME SAY THIS BEFORE. WHEN I RAN FOR OFFICE IN 2018 WITH THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER, I DID A LOT OF DOORKNOCKING, I SPOKE WITH A LOT OF VOTERS. ANYTHING I HEARD MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE WAS THAT WE ARE GOING TO SUPPORT YOU, WHEN YOU GET ELECTED, MATURE LOCAL GOVERNMENT LISTENS TO US. I THINK THE COUNTY DOES A GOOD JOB OF LISTENING TO PEOPLE AND SEEKING PUBLIC INPUT, HAVING BEEN ON THE OUTSIDE FOR A WHILE, AND I WORKING ON THE COUNTY COMMISSION, I REALLY DO THINK THE COUNTY DOES A GOOD JOB, A SINCERELY GOOD JOB. BUT THE PERCEPTION IS THERE. THE PERCEPTION IS THAT LOCAL GOVERNMENT IS TRYING TO STEAMROLL US AND TRYING TO GET WHAT HE WANTS WITHOUT LISTENING TO THE PUBLIC. I DO NOT THINK THAT IS HAPPENING, I DO NOT THINK THAT IS TRUE IN THE COUNTY COMMISSION AND THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATION. BUT I UNDERSTAND THE PERCEPTION. WHAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT HERE IS THAT WE'VE GOT PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN CITIZENS CONTRIBUTING FOR YEARS ON THE MICCOSUKEE GREENWAY, EXPERTS, SPENDING UNKNOWN NUMBERS OF VOLUNTEER HOURS, PROVIDING HIGHLY VALUABLE ADVICE WITH THE MANAGEMENT AND FUTURE OF THE GREENWAY. I THINK WHAT THIS DOES, IT SENDS A MESSAGE TO THEM THAT COULD BE PERCEIVED IN A NEGATIVE WAY, THAT THEIR INPUT, THAT THE CONTROL OF COMMITTEE IS BEING SEATED OVER TO THE COUNTY. AT THE SAME TIME, I RECOGNIZE IN MY BRIEFINGS TALKING WITH HER COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR ABOUT THIS, THERE ARE SOME STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS THAT THIS COMMITTEE NEEDS TO ABIDE BY AND CHECK BOXES THAT WE NEED TO CHECK DURING THE COURSE OF THIS PLANNING. SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS HAVE A MOTION WHERE WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THE STRUCTURE OF THE COMMITTEE UNDER THE REQUIREMENTS OF STATUTE TO SEE HOW WE CAN RETAIN A CITIZEN ELECTED AS CHAIR, ELECTED BY THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, BUT STILL HAVE THAT SAME TYPE OF BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE TO THE THINGS WE NEED TO ACCOMPLISH. MAYBE IN ADDITION TO THE CHAIR AND THE REST OF THE COMMITTEE, MAYBE WE HAVE A COUNTY STAFF PERSON SERVE AS THE VICE CHAIR, OR IS HE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, SIMILAR TO THE NONPROFIT THAT HAS A BOARD, THEN THEY HAVE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR THAT ACTUALLY MANAGES THE WORK OF THE ORGANIZATION. I THINK WE ARE ALL RELATIVELY SMART PEOPLE. I THINK WE CAN COME UP WITH SOLUTIONS THAT WOULD ADDRESS THE CONCERNS OF THE CITIZENS THAT HAVE DEVOTED UNOWNED NUMBERS OF HOURS TO THE QUALITY OF THE MANAGEMENT OF THE GREENWAY, AND YET STILL ACHIEVE WHAT WE WANT AND WHAT WE NEED TO FOR STATUTE ON THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATION. SO, MY MOTION WOULD BASICALLY BE TO FURTHER THIS AGENDA ITEM, HAVE A COME BACK AT THE NEXT REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME FOR OUR NEXT BOARD MEETING, WITH THE NEXT DONATION OF THOSE OPTIONS. WHERE IT CAN BE RETAINED THAT THE CITIZENS HAVING CONTROL OVER ELECTING THE CHAIR OF THEIR CHOICE, AND STILL HAVING SOMEONE ON THE COUNTY STAFF THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO MANAGE A CITIZEN COMMITTEE ON MANAGING THOSE CHECKBOXES THAT WE NEED TO CHECK OFF. TO ME, THAT SEEMS LIKE A VERY GOOD COMPROMISE. WE NEED TO HAVE IT COME BACK TO US AND MAKE SURE THAT IT DOES COMPLY WITH THE STATUTE. BUT I THINK IF WE COULD MAKE THAT HAPPEN, THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE CAN MAKE SURE, I THINK THAT IS A GOOD COMPROMISE. TO FURTHER THIS ITEM, ASK OUR COUNTY STAFF TO GO BACK AND TAKE A LOOK, WHAT OTHER OPTIONS THERE MAY BE TO RESTRUCTURE THIS COMMITTEE SO THAT WE HAVE A COMPROMISE THAT SATISFIES BOTH PARTIES. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MINOR. I AM GOING TO DEFER A MINUTE TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, AND THEN I THINK WE HAVE COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE IN QUEUE. >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. JUST ON THE MOTION, COMMISSIONER MINOR, I WAS JUST TRYING TO SAVE YOU SOME TIME, IN TERMS OF DEFERRING THE ITEM AND BRING IT BACK. IF IT IS THE DIRECTION OF THE BOARD, IF YOU HAVE A MOTION TODAY THAT SIMPLY SAYS WE WOULD HAVE A CITIZEN ACT AS CHAIR, WE WILL FIGURE IT OUT. THIS IS AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTIOUS ISSUE, BUT IT IS WHEN WE CAN MANAGE. IF YOU GIVE US THAT DIRECTION, WE WILL DO IT AND FIGURE IT OUT. >> THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER , THE BEST COUNTY ADMINISTERED HER IS THE BEST IN MINISTRY IN THE WORLD. THAT SOUNDS GREAT. I WANT TO MODIFY MY MOTION, PER THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR'S COMMENTS JUST NOW. SO WE WILL CHANGE AND ADOPT THIS ITEM WITH THE EXCEPTION OF MAKING SURE THAT THE CHAIR REMAINS IN AN ELECTED POSITION FROM THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION. >> THANK YOU. ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT? AWESOME, ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE? >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR AND COMMISSIONER MINOR. >> I BELIEVE YOU ARE APPOINTED TO THE MICCOSUKEE GREENWAY, IS THAT CORRECT? >> I AM, I AM. I AM HONORED TO DO SO. I WANT TO THANK BRETT, SUE, ERIC, ROBIN, FOR ALL OF YOUR WORK, FOR COMMISSIONER MINER ON THIS. THIS MOTION GETS TO WHAT I WAS GOING TO BE GETTING AT IN WHAT THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND I HAVE BEEN FIGHTING ABOUT ALL WEEKEND. I'VE ALREADY GOTTEN WHERE I WANTED TO GO, I HAD SO MUCH TO SAY. THE ISSUE HERE IS, THERE IS A BIG ISSUE HERE AT THIS. I AM NOT GOING TO LIE, IT PUT A BAD TASTE IN MY MOUTH THAT AS SOON AS I GET APPOINTED TO A VERY IMPORTANT COMMITTEE FOR A VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE FOR MY COMMUNITY, WE CHANGE THINGS UP. SO THIS COMMITTEE NO LONGER CHOOSES THEIR OWN CITIZEN REPRESENTED. THE COUNTY ATTORNEY, I'M SORRY, THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, WITH LEGAL ADVICE AND CONTACTS FROM THE COUNTY, THEY HAVE ASSURED ME IT IS NOT BECAUSE OF HOW I DRESS HER HOW I LOOK. BUT ALL JOKES ASIDE, IT IS AN ISSUE. WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK, THIS MIGHT BE GOOD TO CLARIFY, OR THE COUNTY MINISTRY KNOWS WHERE HE IS GOING WITH THIS WITH THE MOTION, I WILL LEAVE IT. IT IS NOT THE MOTION I GOT BEFORE THIS MEETING. IF THERE WAS ANOTHER WAY, I WOULD DO IT. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH IT BEING IN THE SUNSHINE OR BEING A DECISION-MAKING COMMITTEE. I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE CITIZENS NOT BEING ABLE TO ELECT THEIR CHAIR, AND ESPECIALLY IN AN AREA WHERE WE HAVE CITIZENS WHO DO NOT JUST SHOW UP AND COMMENT, THESE FOLKS HAVE BEEN DOING THE WORK BY VOLUNTEERING OUT THERE FOR THREE DECADES. DOING THE WORK THAT LET US GET 500 ACRES OF GREENWAY. SO I HAVE HEARD FROM SOME MEMBERS OF THOSE COMMUNITIES THAT HELP. FOR SOME REASON, THE AMOUNT OF COLLABORATION THAT THEY HAVE BEEN OPENED TO RECEIVE FROM OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT HAS DECLINED IN RECENT YEARS. WHICH IS THE CONTEXT FROM WHICH THE SUSPICION COMES FROM, TO BE VERY CLEAR. SO IF THE ISSUE OF HAVING IT IS SUNSHINE IN A STAFF SUPPORT PERSON IS USUALLY NOT ALSO ON THE COMMITTEE , THEY COMMUNICATE WITH THE CHAIR, CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT GENERALLY IS THE COMMUNICATION? MY ASSUMPTION IS SCHEDULING MEETINGS, THINGS LIKE THAT. WHAT WOULD HELP ME TO KNOW WHO WOULD BE INAPPROPRIATE STAFF SUPPORT THAT IS NOT THE APPOINTEE, WHAT IS THE NATURE OF THE USUAL COMMUNICATION BETWEEN A STAFF SUPPORT AND A COMMITTEE CHAIR? >> MADAM CHAIR, IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE NATURE OF THE COMMITTEE. IT IS INCUMBENT ON US TO BRING THESE ISSUES TO YOUR ATTENTION. IF WE COULD AVOID A VERY CLEAR POTENTIAL ISSUE, WHICH THIS IS, RELATIVE TO THE DECISION-MAKING CAPACITY OF THIS COMMITTEE, WE ARE TRYING TO STRUCTURE IN A WAY TO DO THAT, FIRST AND FOREMOST. IF WE CAN DO THAT TO FACILITATE A ROBUST CONVERSATION OF CITIZENS, WE WILL DO THAT TOO. BUT THE BOARD HAS MADE A DETERMINATION THAT WE UNDERSTAND THE POTENTIAL ISSUES, WE STILL WOULD RATHER GO IN THIS DIRECTION, THEN WE WILL TAKE THAT DIRECTION ALL DAY. MAGGIE, YOU PROBABLY COULD TAKE MARK WITH RESPECT TO THIS COMMITTEE. THERE ARE DETAILS WE NEED TO MEET WITH IN THE PLAN THAT ARE SUBSTANTIVE IN NATURE. WE DO NOT HAVE A DEEP PARKS AND REC'S STAFF, OTHER THAN AMANDA, OUR PARKS AND REC'S STAFF, SO WE DO NOT HAVE THAT CAPACITY, BUT WE WILL CREATE IT . GO AHEAD, MAGGIE. YOU CAN SPEAK MORE TO THE NATURE OF THE DISCUSSION AND COMMUNICATIONS BETWEEN THE STAFF AND COMMITTEE. [ CAPTIONERS TRANSITIONING ] ARE BEING MADE, THERE IS THE EXPERTISE OF BEING THE BRIDGE BETWEEN THE STATE AND THIS COMMITTEE. AS I THINK MR. DRAPER SHARED , THAT REMINDED US. YOU AS A BODY ARE THE INITIAL APPROVAL BUT ULTIMATELY THIS IS A STATED DOCUMENT IN A STAGE REVIEW . HAVING THE STAFF POSTURED TO BETWEEN THESE TWO WORLDS LIVE. REFLECTING ON THESE NEEDS WE WILL FIND CREATIVE WAYS TO MAKE SURE WE ARE IN THE BALANCE OF AND STILL ACHIEVING THOSE GOALS TWO. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND, THAT IS HELPFUL. I WOULD THINK THE THINGS THAT ARE ADMINISTRATIVE IN NATURE, I WOULD NOT EVEN SUGGEST THE NEED TO EXPAND THE PARKS DEPARTMENT. HE WANT TO BE CAREFUL THAT THEY DO NOT INTERACT AND I CAN SEE THERE'S A REASON THERE'S NOT A ADMINISTRATIVE PROFESSIONAL AT THE LEVEL OF THE ORGANIZATION HE WAS CAPABLE OF SCHEDULING MEETINGS AND HE WOULD BE FIGURING OUT THE COORDINATION . IT'S BEEN A LONG MEETING AND I WILL DROP IT AND WE WILL GO, BUT THAT IS WHAT I WAS GOING. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MR. COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, BASED ON YOUR COMMENT , WOULD THE PENDING RESOLUTION NOT NEED TO BE CHANGED? SO,? >> YES, MDM. CHAIR. IT WOULD NEED TO BE REVISED TO REMOVE THE PROVISION THAT WAIVES THE POLICY TO DESIGNATE COUNTY STAFF AS THE CHAIR IN THE ABSENCE OF THAT PROVISION, THE DEFAULT PROVISION OF THE POLICY WILL APPLY IN THE COMMITTEE WILL APPOINT THE CHAIR. >> THANK YOU COUNTY ATTORNEY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONERS ? COMMISSIONER WELCH, VICE CHAIR. >> THANK YOU, MDM. CHAIR. I WANT TO PROVIDE COVER FOR THE RECORD, A CLARIFICATION, RIGHT? WHICH WE HAVE KIND OF DANCED AROUND THAT . BUT I GET THE CONCERNS. RIGHT? MY UNDERSTANDING WOULD BE , THIS IS THE GENESIS OF THIS STRUCTURE ADMINISTRATIVELY. ULTIMATELY -- RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE MANAGEMENT POINT OF THE PROPERTY, IS THAT RIGHT? THIS IS LAND THAT IS OWNED BY THE STATE AND IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY, WE HAVE SECEDED THAT -- STATUTORILY THAT WE QUIRES IT BE AND IT IS DECISION-MAKING BODY, WE TRY TO FIND THE PATH OF LEAST RESISTANCE TO DOING THAT IN MOST EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT WAY, CORRECT? CORRECT. >> I HATE THAT IT HAS BECOME TENSE. I THINK THAT THE CITIZENS THAT HAVE SERVED AND ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT THE GREENWAY WHICH WAS ENTIRELY IN MY DISTRICT , I HATE THAT THIS HAS BEEN APPROACHED IN A TENSE WAY. I DID NOT KNOW THIS WAS A CONCERN AT ALL UNTIL TODAY. AND THAT FRUSTRATES ME. I FEEL LIKE THESE GUYS, I REALIZE THEY ARE HAMMERS AND THEY ARE JUST HITTING NAILS, AND THEY HAVE A LOT OF THEM AND THEY ARE TRYING TO DO THINGS IN THE RIGHT WAY. BUT I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE, AS COMMISSIONERS SELECTED BY THE COMMUNITY IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO MANAGE THE PROPERTY. IT IS OUR BOARD'S RESPONSIBILITY. WE VALUE THE OPINIONS OF CITIZENS, I DON'T EXPECT FOR ONE SECOND THAT THE STRUCTURE THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IS GOING TO SOMEHOW USURP THE OPINIONS OF CITIZENS. I DON'T THINK THAT FOR ONE SECOND MAGGIE OR TERRY OR LINDA WILL BLOCK THE WAY THROUGH THIS TO AFFECT THE OUTCOMES OF THE MANAGEMENT PLANS. I FEEL LIKE THAT IS WHAT IS KIND OF BEING SUGGESTED AND IT FRUSTRATES ME. AND, SO, I APPRECIATE THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR'S ABILITY TO ACQUIESCE CAN SAY OKAY , WE WILL DO SOME MORE WORK AND WE WILL FINAGLE A WAY TO MAKE IT AND STRUCTURE IT IN SUCH A WAY THAT THE CHAIR IS NOT AT THE APPOINTEE FROM THE COUNTY, BUT I FEEL LIKE THAT IS JUST BEING DONE IN GOOD FAITH. AND I HATE THE SITUATION THAT IT'S SOMEHOW AN OVERBEARING ATTEMPT TO CONTROL SOMETHING THAT WE ALL CHERISH AND LOVE AND APPRECIATE AND WANT TO PROTECT AND MAINTAIN FOR THE PUBLIC USE. WE HAVE THE OBLIGATION TO DO THAT FROM THE PEOPLE ACROSS THE STREET. SO, I JUST FELT THE NEED TO SAY THAT. I AM A LITTLE BIT IN DEFENSE OF HIS. BUT I AM HAPPY THAT IF THAT WILL GET US TO A PLACE IN A POSTURE THAT IS MORE COMPARABLE TO THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE THAT WE AT LEAST PUT THAT IN THE RECORD. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER WELCH. >> I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. I DEFINITELY DO. WHEN THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND I TALKED ABOUT IT, IN TERMS OF MAKING SURE THAT THE PLAN IS RUN THROUGH EFFICIENTLY AND EFFECTIELY AND CAPTURES WHAT WE NEED , I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND. AND I'M AM SURE YOU WILL AGREE WITH ME , WE WORK FOR THE CITIZENS THAT ELECT US, WE WORK FOR THE CITIZENS OF LEON COUNTY. LET'S TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE SET UP STRUCTURES TO THE PEOPLE THAT WE WORK FOR PROVIDE INPUT FOR US. I AGREE WITH YOU. -- TO STEAMROLL WHAT IT NEEDS AND WANTS OVER THE CITIZENS. I DON'T THINK THAT. I TRULY DON'T THINK THAT IS WHAT IS HAPPENING. THE PERCEPTION ABOUT GOVERNMENT IN GENERAL, NOT EVEN SPECIFICALLY ABOUT LEON COUNTY BUT GOVERNMENT IN GENERAL IS THAT IT DOES NOT LISTEN TO PEOPLE, IT OFTEN PUSHES THROUGH THINGS THAT MAY CONFLICT WITH WHAT CITIZENS WANT OR NEED. SO, TO ACCOMMODATE THE DESIRES OF THE CITIZENS WHO HAVE WORKED SOMEONE ON THIS , WE HAVE AN OPTION, SOUNDS LIKE THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR SAID WE DO HAVE AN APPROACH TO SATISFY BOTH THE DESIRE OF THE CITIZENS TO ELECT THEIR OWN CHAIR AND ACCOMPLISH WHAT WE NEED TO TO FORMULATE THAT PLAN. BUT I AGREE WITH YOU, IT IS NOT AN AND SITUATION THAT HAS SOME TYPE OF DEVIOUS INTENT. I DON'T THINK THAT IS THE CASE. I JUST DON'T. BUT, THAT PERCEPTION EXISTS IN THE GENERAL SENSE ABOUT GOVERNMENT. I THINK THIS IS A WAY FOR US TO EASILY ADDRESS THAT POINT THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS? I WANT TO SAY TO THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS THAT CAME BEFORE US THIS AFTERNOON , WE DO VALUE YOUR INPUT . MS. NORIS, MR. LOMBARD , MR. DRAPER, MR. BARTEL. WE ARE HERE REPRESENTING YOU. AND WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING TO ADDRESS US AND GIVE US YOUR CONCERN . AND WE ALSO VALUE THE FACT THAT WE LISTEN AND WE TRY TO GUESS, I BELIEVE WE WILL TRY TO MOVE FORWARD TODAY, TRY TO FIND SOME COMPROMISING LANGUAGE OR SOME COMPROMISING SITUATION SO THAT YOU WILL KNOW THAT YOU ARE INPUT IS VALUED. AND, SO, I BELIEVE , BASED ON THE COMMENTS FROM THE COUNTY ADMINISTER, I APPRECIATE YOUR CONCERNS ABOUT OUR REPRESENTATIVE AND COMMISSIONER MINOR, I THINK YOU HAVE BEEN IN THE PAST, AND I THINK ALL OF THOSE COMMENTS ARE VERY VALUABLE TO THIS BOARD. NOW, WE HAD A MOTION ON THE FLOOR, BUT THAT WAS PRIOR TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR INDICATING THAT HE WOULD CHECK WITH THE ATTORNEY AND WE WILL CERTAINLY ACQUIESCE TO THE OPINION OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS, THE BOARD MEMBERS. SO, DO WE NEED TO MODIFY THAT MOTION A LITTLE ? OKAY. ALL RIGHT, HEARING NO OTHER COMMENTS . ALL THOSE IN FAVOR ? COMMISSIONER MANNERS? THANK YOU. AND I VOTE AYE. ANY OPPOSITION? HEARING ON , THE MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU. MR. COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR I BELIEVE WE ARE BACK ON OUR REGULAR AGENDA , ITEM NUMBER 25? >> THANK YOU MDM. CHAIR, ITEM 25, COMMISSIONERS WILL BE VERY FRESH IN YOUR SHORT-TERM MEMORIES, THE GRATIFICATION OF THE BOARD'S ACTIONS AT YESTERDAY'S ANNUAL RETREAT. AGAIN YOU WILL SEE I RATIFIED HERE PROVIDED BY THE BOARD , AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. >> THANK YOU. >> WE HAVE NO SPEAKERS ON THE ITEM AND WE RECOMMEND THE OPTION FOR IT. >> ANY ? A SECOND? ANY COMMENTS? I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR A VERY ROBUST RETREAT YESTERDAY, I WANT TO SAY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR ON THIS STAFF FOR THE WORKSHOP AND ALL OF THE INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED IN THE NEW INITIATIVES THAT WE ADDRESSED AND ACCEPT IT , AND ALSO FOR THE STATUS ON WHERE WE ARE WITH THOSE INITIATIVES THAT WE ADOPTED LAST YEAR. SO, THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR , LET ME KNOW BY SAYING AYE. COMMISSIONER MADDOX? >> AYE. >> ANY OPPOSITION? THANK YOU SO MUCH. MR. COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR? I BELIEVE WE ARE ON THE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 26. >> THANK YOU, MDM. CHAIR, AND JENNA ITEM NUMBER 26, SEEK YOUR CONSIDERATION OF A TALLAHASSEE HISTORICAL SOCIETY'S REVISED FUNDING REQUEST RELATED TO THE $10,000 THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED AND AWARDED BY THE BOARD, THE FUNDING WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED BY THE BOARD FOR THE PRINTING AND DISTRIBUTION OF THE CHILDREN'S ACT IN THE BOOK ENTITLED TALUS IC 200 . AGAIN, IN CELEBRATION OF THE 2024 TALLAHASSEE BICENTENNIAL . THE STATE, SINCE THAT TIME, RESCINDED ITS MATCHING FUNDS WHICH RESULTED IN REVISED REQUESTS TO SUPPORT THE PRODUCTION OF A DIGITAL VERSION OF THE BOOK AND ANY AMOUNT OF $10,000. SINCE WE REQUESTED THE CHANGE, WE BROUGHT IT BEFORE YOU AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING THE BOARD DIRECTION. BUT OPTION ONE WOULD BE TO APPROVE THE REVISED REQUESTS IN THE AMOUNT OF $10,000. >> THINK YOU, A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, LET IT BE KNOWN BY SAYING AYE. COMMISSIONER MADDOX? >> AYE. >> AND I VOTE AYE. THANK YOO SO MUCH . >> COMMISSIONERS, ITEM NUMBER 27 PROVIDES ADDITIONAL INFORMATION REQUESTED BY THE BOARD DURING YOUR WORKSHOP ON HUMAN SERVICES AND THE CHS LAST NOVEMBER ON THE PROPOSED REALIGNMENT OF THE CH SP HUMAN SERVICES CATEGORIES. AND WHEN WE BROUGHT THIS ITEM TO THE BOARD MOST RECENTLY, AS REFLECTED ON THE COMMISSIONERS , THE CSC, THIS CHILDREN'S SERVICES COUNCIL WAS APPROVED BY THE VOTERS IN 2020 AND LEVIES A PROPERTY TAX ON ALL HOMES AND BUSINESSES IN LEON COUNTY THAT GENERATES MORE THAN $9 MILLION FOR CHILDREN AND FAMILY PROGRAMS. COMMISSIONERS, AS WE SAY , THE ITEM IS MORE THAN THE TOTAL HUMAN SERVICES FUNDING ALLOCATED BY THE COUNTY AND THE CITY , FOR ALL AGENCIES AND PROGRAMS, WHICH IS ABOUT $5.6 MILLION. AS PART OF THE RECOMMENDED CATEGORY REALIGNMENT , THE ITEM PRESENTS A PROPOSED PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY AND THE COUNTY AND THE CSC THAT PROVIDES FOR A TRANSITION PERIOD TO ENSURE THE CONTINUITY OF CHILDREN AND FAMILY PROGRAMS AND SERVICES DURING THE UPCOMING TWO YEARS CH SP FUNDING CYCLE. THE RECOMMENDED LIST REALIGNMENT OF THESE CATEGORIES WOULD AGAIN ALLOW US TO MAXIMIZE LIMITED HUMAN SERVICES FUNDING TO DISTRIBUTE THROUGH THE PROCESS, ELIMINATE ANY POTENTIAL DUPLICATION OF RESOURCES AND HOPEFULLY IMPROVE THE SERVICE DELIVERY AND FOCUS ON CHILDREN'S SERVICES. AGAIN, WHILE TRYING TO FACILITATE A SMOOTH TRANSITION AS POSSIBLE IN CLOSE COORDINATION WITH THE CSC IN THE CITY AND THE COUNTY. COMMISSIONERS, AGAIN, THE LAST TIME WE MET YOU REQUESTED INPUT FROM THE AGENCIES . AGAIN, TODAY, WE HAVE INCLUDED SOME OF THAT INPUT, ALL THE INPUT WE HAVE RECEIVED IN THE ITEM, -- IS HERE WHO HAS FACILITATED A NUMBER OF MEETINGS THAT TIME WITH THE HUMAN SERVICES PROVIDERS. AND, WITH THAT, COMMISSIONERS, WE ARE RECOMMENDING OPTION ONE, AND WE HAVE A NUMBER OF SPEAKERS CARDS. >> THANK YOU, MR. COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. HOW MANY CAN YOU SEE HOW MANY DO WE HAVE? SMACK HIM CHAIR CAN I ASK THE COUNTY A QUESTION? >> 11. >> 11, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS TAKE A FIVE-MINUTE BREAK. SPLIT BEFORE WE START HEARING THE SPEAKERS AT THE BREAK, I JUST WANT TO SAY MY WIFE IS A REALTOR WHO CURRENTLY HAS A BUSINESS RELATIONSHIP WITHIN THE OASIS CENTER FOR WOMEN AND GIRLS AND SERVING AS A CLIENT TO THEM. THEY ARE SERVING AS A CLIENT TO HER, THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS OF CONDUCTING A REAL ESTATE TRANSACTION, THIS AGENCY THEREFORE , I MUST DECLARE THE APPEARANCE OF A CONFLICT AND REGRETTABLY I SHOULD ABSTAIN FROM VOTING ON THIS ITEM. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MINOR. WE WILL TAKE A FIVE-MINUTE BREAK. >> CAN I ASK A QUESTION? >> WHEN WE COME BACK WE WILL. >> COMMISSIONERS, IF YOU WILL TAKE YOUR SEATS PLEASE. >> IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S ONLY US TWO, RIGHT? [ LAUGHTER ] >> A NEW THIS RETURNING TO 10 MINUTES. LOVE >> OKAY. COMMISSIONER MADDOX ARE YOU ON THE PHONE? >> YES, MA'AM. >> OKAY, WE HAVE CALLED THE MEETING BACK TO ORDER . >> THANK YOU, THE FIRST SPEAKER ON THIS SITE IS SURELY A REAL, I APOLOGIZE IF I GOT YOUR NAME WRONG. IT'S BEEN A GOOD AFTERNOON, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. I AM HERE ON BEHALF ASKING YOUR CONSIDERATION ABOUT THE LINE ITEM FOR THE COUNTY'S BUDGET FOR HOMELESSNESS, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF PRE-AND FAMILY SERVICES, WE HAVE A SHELTER WHICH IS A TRANSITIONAL SHELTER FOR WOMEN THAT ARE HOMELESS AND PREGNANT. IT IS THE ONLY MATERNITY HOME LOAN FAITH -BASED MATERNITY HOME BETWEEN PENSACOLA AND JACKSONVILLE. WE ALSO HAVE SERVED WOMEN ALL AROUND THE STATE AND IN GEORGIA. SO, THE POINT OF OUR PROGRAM IS TO HELP WOMEN BECOME MORE SUCCESSFUL AND MORE SELF-SUFFICIENT, WE HAVE DONE THIS WITH THE CAPACITY TO SERVE AS TO SIX MONTHS AT A TIME, RIGHT NOW OUR CURRENT STATUS IS THAT WE HAVE NINE PEOPLE THERE. WE HAVE FOUR WOMEN AND FOUR INFANTS, AND ONE TODDLER. IT IS A HUGE RESPONSIBILITY THAT WE HAVE AND I WANTED TO JUST SAY I APPRECIATE THAT WE HAVE BENEFITED FROM THE FUNDING FROM THE CHS P PROCESS IN THE PAST . ALSO I WANTED TO SAY THAT THE PEOPLE ARE ON OUR WAITING LIST, WE HAVE AN ONGOING WAITING LIST AT ALL TIMES, THEY CAN OF PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING IN THEIR CARS OR LOOKING AT OTHER SHELTERS, PEOPLE IN DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SITUATIONS . MOMS AND CHILDREN LIVING ON THE STREET , BUT WE ALSO HAD A LOT OF SUCCESS TOO, OF PEOPLE THAT COME THROUGH OUR PROGRAM. THAT THEY MAKE THEIR LIVING RIGHT HERE IN TALLAHASSEE, LIVING AND WORKING AND WORKING WITH THE HUMAN SERVICES FIELD . I AM SO HAPPY WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE WITH YOU WHAT WE DO, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU MISSES O'REAR. SELECT NEXT SPEAKER, LAUREN STAFFORD. >> GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS, MY NAME IS LAUREN STAFFORD, I AND THE ACADEMIC DIRECTOR OF THE LEGAL AID FOUNDATION OF TALLAHASSEE, WHICH PROVIDES FREE CIVIL LEGAL ASSISTANCE THAT NOT ONLY ADDRESSES IMMEDIATE CONCERNS BUT ALSO CONTRIBUTES TO BUILDING A STRONGER, MORE STABLE LEON COUNTY. AT THE HEART OF OUR MISSION IS A COMMITMENT TO JUSTICE AND ACCESS TO REPRESENTATION, WE PLAY A PIVOTAL ROLE IN ENSURING THAT ALL YELL COUNTY MEMBERS, REGARDLESS OF THEIR FINANCIAL, CAN EXERCISE THEIR RIGHTS AND FIND RESOLUTIONS TO LEGAL CHALLENGES. OUR SERVICES, WHICH ARE SUPPORTED THROUGH ANTI-FUNDING ARE A LIFELINE FOR THOSE FACING ADVERSITY, THE VAST MAJORITY OF CLIENTS BASED FAMILY LAW CHALLENGES IN THE AREA OF DIVORCE, CHILD SUPPORT AND CHILD CUSTODY . THE LEGAL AID TELL -- OF TALLAHASSEE IS A PILLAR OF SUPPORTING OUR MEMBERS THROUGH DIFFICULT PROCESSES. AN EXCELLENT EXAMPLE OF THIS FUNDING IS A CURRENT CLIENT WHOSE SPOUSE MADE THE DECISION TO EXIT TO THE MARRIAGE AND FORGO RESPONSIBILITY OF THE FOUR CHILDREN, ALL UNDER THE AGES OF 10. WITH VERY FEW RESOURCES TO NAVIGATE THE DIFFICULT JUSTICE IS THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO PROVIDE OUR CLIENT WITH A CHILD SUPPORT AGREEMENT THAT PROVIDE ENOUGH FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE TO ALLOW THE CLIENT TO PROPERLY CARE FOR THEIR CHILDREN. ADDITIONALLY SERVICES WILL PROVIDE REPRESENTATION DURING THE DIVORCE PROCESS, EXECUTING A CIVIL SEPARATION, WHICH ULTIMATELY HAS A POSITIVE IMPACT ON CHILDREN AND ALLOWS EACH MEMBER TO MOVE FORWARD PEACEFULLY. THE FUNDS AVAILABLE ALLOW US TO CARRY OUT TWICE MONTHLY MOBILE LAW CLINICS PLEASING OUR VOLUNTEER ATTORNEYS IN NEIGHBORHOODS WITH A LIP, IT PROVIDES THE RESOURCES TO MAINTAIN PROPER STAFF AND OVERHEAD COSTS AND OTHER COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH SUCCESSFULLY RUNNING A SUSTAINABLE NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION. THE RESULT OF MEETING OUR CLIENTS IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD MEANS MORE COMMUNITY MEMBERS SERVE SOLVING LEGAL CHALLENGES, WE BELIEVE HUMAN SERVICES HELPED PROVIDE A STABLE ENVIRONMENT TO OUR NEIGHBORS IN NEED WHICH CREATES A RIPPLE EFFECT OF POSITIVE OUTCOMES CREATING MORE RESILIENTLY LEON COUNTY, WITHOUT FUNDING OUR SERVICES WILL DECREASE AND OUR COMMUNITY WILL BE NEGATIVELY IMPACTED. I ASK YOU TO IT CONSIDER WHO IS IMPACTED AND HAVE A LACK OF HUMAN SERVICES WILL AFFECT OUR COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE. HUMAN SERVICES ARE A LIFELINE FOR MANY COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND WE REMAIN STEADFAST IN OUR DESIRE TO ASSIST THOSE IN NEED. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MS. STAFFORD. >> NEXT SPEAKER KIM KALB AND COUNTRYMEN. >> YES , HELLO, I AM HERE REPRESENTING THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF KIDS INCORPORATED WHICH I HAVE SAT ON FOR AT LEAST 10 YEARS NOW. SO I WATCHED YOU GUYS HIT THE PAUSE BUTTON WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT PROCUREMENT AND PROCUREMENT POLICIES BECAUSE HE SAID WE NEED TO WORKSHOP THIS, THERE WERE A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAD. I THINK WE NEED TO WORKSHOP THE CHSP , WE GET ABOUT $125,000 FROM CHSP, WE BRING DOWN 460,000 IN FEDERAL MATCH JUST ON WHAT WE GET FROM CHSP, WE DON'T GET THAT, THAT IS 100 BABIES BIRTH THROUGH 3, WHO NO LONGER HAVE QUALITY CHILD CARE, AFFORDABLE CHILDCARE. THAT IS 100 FAMILIES OF OUR POOREST CITIZENS WHO NO LONGER HAVE A PLACE TO PUT THEIR CHILD , TALK ABOUT THE CYCLE OF POVERTY. THE IMPACT OF THIS IS GOING TO BE SIGNIFICANT, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE ARE NOT PAUSING TO LET THE CYCLE GO THROUGH ONE MORE TIME , AND LET'S REGROUP AND FIGURE OUT HOW WE DO THIS WITHOUT IMPACTING SO MANY OF THE CITIZENS HERE. THAT IS ALL I GOT, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MS. COUNTRYMEN. >> PAT HOLIDAY? >> GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE. I WOULD LIKE TO FIRST OF ALL THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THIS OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT TO YOU. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME SINCE MY RETIREMENT THAT I HAVE COME BEFORE THIS BODY BUT I FEEL IT IS IMPORTANT FOR ME TO DO SO TODAY BECAUSE OF DECISIONS THAT ARE BEING MADE. AND HOW THEY WILL IMPACT THIS COMMUNITY. MY COMMENTS ARE NOT MEANT TO BE ADVERSARIAL OR NEGATIVE TOWARD ANYONE. I AM ONLY TRYING TO MAKE THE COMMENT THAT I AM MAKING BECAUSE I AM SINCERELY CONCERNED ABOUT THE BEST INTEREST OF THIS COMMUNITY. THE PEOPLE THAT ARE SERVED, THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE SERVED, THE FAMILIES THAT ARE SERVED, AS WELL AS THE INDIVIDUALS THAT DEPEND ON THE CHSP FUNDING, THE SOCIAL WORK, I AM A SOCIAL WORKER BY TRADE , MSW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANT REALLY QUICKLY IS TO DO NO HARM. WHATEVER YOU DO, DO NO HARM. AND I HAVE ADDED ONE THAT I LEARNED FROM BEING A GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL FOR SO MANY YEARS. I WOULD LIKE TO CREATE THAT OR I WOULD ADD TO DO MINIMUM HARM BY REDUCING RISK FACTORS LEADING TO UNFORESEEN DOMINO CONSEQUENCES AND EFFECTS BY POLICY DIVISION DECISION-MAKING. SOME OF THE CONCERNS I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS AFTER REVIEWING THE AGENDA ITEM, AND ALSO HAVING A GREAT GRASP OF WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS IN THIS COMMUNITY FOR DECADES NOW, I HAVE BEEN IN SOCIAL WORK ALL OF MY LIFE . AND BY THE WAY, I AM A HEADSTART CAN'T GRADUATE MYSELF. I UNDERSTAND WHAT IT MEANS , NOT JUST FROM A PROFESSIONAL PERSPECTIVE, BUT ALSO A PERSON WHO HAD TO DEPEND ON THESE SERVICES, AND THEIR FAMILIES, THAT HELPED US SURVIVE AND HELP ME GET A SCHOLARSHIP TO FLORIDA STATE UNIVERSITY. SOME OF THE CONCERNS I HAVE, AND I WOULD LIKE TO KIND OF LIST AND, I KIND OF WILL SUMMARIZE THEM, THE ABILITY OF CHSP TO INCORPORATE VITAL FUNDING PROGRAMS INTO THE EXISTING FUNDING SYSTEM, INCLUDING CHSP FUNDED PROGRAMS THAT WOULD BE COMPETING FOR THE CURRENTLY FUNDED PROGRAMS OF THE COMMUNITY SERVICES COUNCIL. SO, THAT IS GOING TO SET UP A COMPETITIVE PROCESS, WE ALL KNOW THAT, THEN THERE WILL BE SOME FALLOUT FROM THAT. THE OTHER PART THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK ABOUT IS THERE WILL BE 22 AGENCIES AFFECTED BY THIS AGENDA. SOME OF THE QUESTIONS I HAVE ARE AS FOLLOWS: SPECIFICALLY WHO ARE THESE AGENCIES THAT WE ARE REFERRING TO? WHAT PROGRAMS ? DO I NEED TO GO? OKAY. WHAT PROGRAMS ARE IN JEOPARDY, WHAT PROGRAMS ARE IN JEOPARDY OF LOSING FUNDING? WHAT ARE THE SPECIFIC TARGET POPULATIONS BEING SERVED BY THESE PROGRAMS. WHAT NEIGHBORHOODS AND INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE BEING SERVED ? THE FISCAL IMPACT OF NOT FUNDING THESE PROGRAMS , THE ANALYSIS, AS FAR AS THE ABILITY TO DRAW DOWN STATE, FEDERAL, AND ALSO FOUNDATION DOLLARS. I WILL HURRY UP AND FINISH. THEY ALSO KNOW, THE OTHER THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT REALLY QUICK AND HAVE A COUPLE OF MORE BULLET POINTS. I SAT DOWN AND THOUGHT ABOUT THIS AND WROTE IT AND I THOUGHT THESE WERE IMPORTANT POINTS, WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT THE FACT THAT CURRENTLY CHILDREN SERVICES FUNDS AGENCIES AND WE HAVE A NOTE THAT THEY ARE NOT FUNDING THE TO THE EXACT SAME PURPOSES. MOSTLY THEY HAVE BEEN FUNDING THEM TO EXPAND THE SERVICE DELIVERY. SO THAT FAMILIES COULD GET SERVED. AND, FOR EXAMPLE, A BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB . WE FUND THEM, THEY ARE FUNDED BY BOTH FUNDING PARTIES, RIGHT? AND THEY GET FUNDING THROUGH THE PROMISE ZONE. THAT ALLOWS THEM TO THE FIRST TIME TO PUT THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB IN SOUTH CITY, AS WE ALL KNOW , WHO KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT STARK CITY, THAT IS ONE OF THE HIGHEST RISK COMMUNITIES FOR CHILDREN, AND IN THIS COUNTY. THE OTHER PART I WANT TO JUST KIND OF TALK ABOUT INFORMATION THAT I WOULD'VE LIKED TO HAVE HAD IN THE AGENDA ITEM, REGARDING THE PROPOSAL ON PAGE FIVE OR THE FUNDING CATEGORIES. FOR EXAMPLE IT WOULD HELPFUL TO KNOW WHAT THE CURRENT BUDGET IS FOR CHSP , IN COMPARISON TO THE PROPOSED FUNDING CATEGORIES, WHAT ARE THE ANTICIPATED BUDGET AMOUNTS THAT ARE IN THERE? I AM A BETTER PERSON AND I LIKE TO HAVE NUMBERS AND SERIOUS ANALYSIS, I LIKE TO SAY WHAT IF, WHAT IF, WHAT IS THE DOMINO EFFECT. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE KNOWN THE DEFINITION OF THE PROPOSED FUNDING CATEGORIES , COMPARED TO THE EXISTING ONES WE HAVE , AND ALSO, AN ANALYSIS OF WHAT PARTICULAR PROGRAMS AND AGENCIES WOULD FIT IN THE PROPOSED CATEGORIES SO YOU CAN CROSS MATCH TO SEE WHAT THE POTENTIAL DROPOUTS MIGHT BE, WHAT PROGRAMS MIGHT TO DROP OUT , WHAT PROGRAMS WOULD BE BETTER FITTED FOR CHILDREN'S SERVICES COUNCIL, ET CETERA, THAT IS JUST DETAILED DATA. THE OTHER PART I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT IS WHEN WE RE-SHIFTS THOSE FUNDING CATEGORIES, I AM SORRY. WHEN WE RECEIVED THOSE FUNDING CATEGORIES , WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN? DOES THE AGENCIES WENT TO THOSE CATEGORIES THAT ARE ALREADY SIGNIFICANT AND UNDERFUNDED? WHAT WILL HAPPEN AS A RESULT OF THAT? WILL WE DESTABILIZE THE PROGRAM THAT WE ARE ALREADY HAVING COME IN THE FAMILIES AND COMMUNITIES DEPEND ON IN THE COMMUNITY . I WANT TO TELL YOU THAT I DO BELIEVE IN CHANGE AND I WILL WALK OUT THE DOOR . CHANGE IS GOOD, I AM NOT, AND WE HAVE GONE THROUGH A LOT OF CHANGES AT CHSP OVER THE YEARS, BUT IT IS HOW THE CHANGES ARE DONE . I AM A MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE NEW PHS, I WANT TO NOTE THAT AS WELL , BUT IT IS HOW WE DO IT, I THINK WE HAVE TO DO IT THOUGHTFULLY AND CAREFULLY AND INCLUSIVELY. AND THAT'S IT, THANK YOU. A SOUND TRANSITION PLAN. >> THANK YOU. >> WE APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS. >> THANK YOU, NEXT SPEAKER KELLY TO BE FOLLOWED BY CASEY DENNIS. >> COMMISSIONERS, HELLO. I AM THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE OASIS CENTER FOR WOMEN AND GIRLS. I REALLY WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO HEAR WHAT PAT HOLLIDAY JUST SAID, BECAUSE WHAT SHE IS SAYING IS MISSING FROM THE AGENDA ITEM , THE THING THAT IS DRIVING EVERYBODY CRAZY, IS THAT THERE IS NO IN-DEPTH ANALYSIS DONE OF WHAT THE LOSS OR THE IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY FROM THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT MIGHT ULTIMATELY LOSE FUNDING OR REDUCE FUNDING. WE NEEDED TO DO A LOT MORE WORK IN THAT AREA. FIRST OF ALL I NEED TO PAY A COMPLIMENT TO YOUR STAFF. AFTER YOU DIRECT AND TO COME BACK OUT TO THE ORGANIZATIONS , I THOUGHT I DID A GREAT JOB TAKING UP FIVE OR SIX DIFFERENT WAYS. I HAD PRIVATE MEETINGS . I THINK THEY WERE OPEN IN SOME WAYS TO HEARING WHAT WE HAD TO SAY , BUT I ALSO THINK THAT THERE WAS A SORT OF A MISSION SINCE NOVEMBER TO GET SOMETHING DONE IN A BIG HURRY. I CANNOT THINK OF ANOTHER ITEM RIGHT BEFORE THANKSGIVING , THEN GOT PUSHED THIS FAST WE HAD SUCH A HUGE IMPACT ON THE PEOPLE. SO I'M ASKING YOU TO SLOW IT DOWN AND BRING IN THE PEOPLE WHO ARE THE EXPERTS IN THE ISSUE. UNDERSTAND THAT WE CAN SET UP A TABLE . WE ARE ALSO CONCERNED WITH HOMELESSNESS, WE WANT OUR SHELTERS TO GET MORE MONEY , WE WANT THEM TO BE ABLE TO SERVE MORE PEOPLE, WE DON'T WANT WOMEN SLEEPING IN CARS WITH THEIR CHILDREN , AND WE CAN SIT AT THE TABLE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THOSE KIND OF CHANGES MIGHT BE THAT WOULD BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY. BUT I THINK NOT HAVING A FAIR PROCESS OF SITTING DOWN TO REALLY LISTEN TO WHAT THE ISSUES ARE ARE FORCING YOU TO HAVE TO KIND OF TAKE THAT MAIN TITLE INSTEAD OF REALLY UNDERSTANDING THE IMPACT UNDERNEATH, THE ONLY OTHER THING I WOULD SAY IS A FEW MONTHS AGO I WAS TOLD IT DOES NOT MATTER THAT I'VE BEEN AROUND 30 YEARS, PEOPLE ARE TIRED OF HEARING ABOUT IT. IN THE SENSE THAT I WANT YOU TO HEAR THIS ONE THING . WHEN I GOT HERE IN 96, THE CITY HAD THE CONSORTIUMS, IT WAS $1 MILLION GIVEN TO THE DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS TO DO DIRECT IMPACT WORK . WITHIN SIX MONTHS AGENCIES WERE IN COMMISSION MEETINGS SCREAMING AT EACH OTHER ABOUT WHY THEY COULD NOT ACCESS MONEY AND WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN AND WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THAT MONEY. IT WAS LIKE $1 MILLION THAT HAVE BEEN SHARED . IN TWO HE'S YEARS LATER, CHSP WAS INTRODUCED IN THE SAME THING HAPPENED LIKE A TRAIN CRASH OR A WRECK IN THE HUMAN SERVICES COMMUNITY HERE , AND IT TOOK US TWO YEARS JUST TO GET A JOINT PLANNING BOARD TOGETHER WITH THE AGENCIES COULD BE HEARD . MY POINT IS, IN THE LAST 10 SECONDS, IT ALWAYS FEELS LIKE WE ARE PLAYING DEFENSE. IT FEELS LIKE WE ALWAYS TURN AROUND AND THERE IS SOMETHING COMING AT US THAT IS GOING TO HURT THE PEOPLE WE SERVE, OR THAT WE PERCEIVE IT WILL HURT THE PEOPLE THAT WE SERVE. I WOULD LIKE TO SIT AT THE TABLE AND ONCE ACTUALLY DEVELOP A STRATEGY FOR HOW WE ARE GOING TO WIN AND GET IT ACROSS THE GOAL LINE TOGETHER IN PARTNERSHIP WITH ALL OF YOU, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> CASEY DENNIS TO BE FOLLOWED BY STEINMETZ. CASEY DENNIS? >> MDM. CHAIR AND MEMBERS, I CASEY DENNIS THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB, AT THE HEART AND SOUL I AM SIMPLY A COUNTRY BOY BORN AND RAISED IN TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA. I HAVE BEEN BLESSED TO LIVE THE DREAM OF INSPIRING AND ENABLING THE KID TO MEET IS THE MOST TO REACH THEIR FULL POTENTIAL AS PRODUCTIVE AND POSITIVE CITIZENS. I HAVE NOT DONE IT ALONE. I HAVE AN AWESOME TEAM OF BOARD MEMBERS,'S DEDICATED STAFF WHO ARE IN THE ROOM TODAY. DONORS WHO BELIEVE IN OUR MISSION AND THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS WHO SAY THEY ARE GOING TO DO WHAT THEY DO. WE CONSTANTLY HEAR ABOUT THE CROWN RACE IN OUR COMMUNITY, GUN VIOLENCE, HOMICIDE, AND HOW 32304 IS THE POOREST Z.I.P. CODE IN OUR STATE. I'M HERE TO PAINT A DIFFERENT PICTURE WITH YOU STANDING BEHIND ME, THE TRUE FACES OF THE 32304 Z.I.P. CODE. THIS SMALL PORTION OF YOUTH WHO PARTICIPATE IN THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB EACH AND EVERY DAY AFTER SCHOOL, AND ALL DAY DURING THE SUMMERS. 98% OF THESE KIDS REGGIE WADE FROM HIGH SCHOOL ON TIME, ATTEND COLLEGE, PURSUE THE TRADE. 97% OF THE SKIN FEEL THAT A TRUSTED ADULT AT THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB IS THERE FOR THEM, THAT THEY CAN EXPRESS THEMSELVES TO. LAST YEAR 27 OF THESE KIDS, 27 OF OUR GRADUATING SENIORS RECEIVED FULL SCHOLARSHIPS FROM THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB'S TO ATTEND COLLEGE. 100% OF THESE KIDS SAY THAT THEY FEEL SAFE IN THESE COMMUNITIES AT THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB'S. THEY WANTED TO GO TO COLLEGE, THEY ARE NOT DOING DRUGS, THEY ARE PARTICIPATING IN COMMUNITY SERVICE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE AT OUR CLUBS. THESE ARE THE YOUTH FROM THE 32304 THIS Z.I.P. CODE, BASIN STREET, Z.I.P. CODE, BASIN ST., MACON COMMUNITY. THESE ARE THE KIDS TAKING TRIPS TO WASHINGTON, D.C., INVOLVED IN MUSIC IN THE DRUMLIN COMMUNITY AND APPROPRIATE DANCE TEAMS AT NO COST TO THEIR PARENTS. ALL OF THIS MADE POSSIBLE BECAUSE OUR BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ESTABLISHED THE CHSP PROCESS FOR MORE NONPROFITS THAT CAN PROVE THEY ARE MAKING A DIFFERENCE IN OUR COMMUNITY. THE LEON COUNTY COMMUNITY ALSO VOTED TO INCREASE THE SERVICES AND RESOURCES TO OUR COMMUNITY, TO OUR KIDS, THROUGH CSD LEON TO INCREASE THE SERVICES. I WANT TO TELL YOU GUYS THIS COMBINATION IS WORKING . WE ARE MAKING A DIFFERENCE IN THE LIVES OF THESE KIDS. WE ARE CHANGING AND IN MANY CASES, SAVING THE LIVES OF EACH ONE OF THESE KIDS IN OUR COMMUNITIES. ANY CHANGE IN THE CURRENT STRUCTURE WILL MEAN THAT THESE KIDS WOULD NOT HAVE ANY PLACE TO GO AFTER SCHOOL. THEY WOULD HAVE A SAFE PLACE IN THEIR OWN COMMUNITIES. ANY CHANGE WOULD TAKE AWAY THEIR HOPE FOR A GREAT FUTURE. DO NOT UNDERMINE AND POTENTIALLY REVERSE ALL OF THE TREMENDOUS PROGRESS THAT WE, ALL OF US TOGETHER HAVE MADE IN OUR COMMUNITY. LET'S CONTINUE TO ENSURE BRIGHTER FUTURES OF THE YOUTH IN LEON COUNTY. PLEASE , PLEASE REJECT ALL CHANGES TO THE CURRENT CHSP STRUCTURE. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MR. DENNIS, WE APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THE YOUTH TODAY AS WELL. AS A MATTER OF FACT LET'S GIVE THE YOUTH AROUND OF APPLAUSE. WE ARE PROUD OF YOU. [ APPLAUSE ] >> THANK YOU. >> SKY BEST, TO BE FOLLOWED BY KIM CITIES. IT'S BEEN A,, MY NAME IS SKYE BETH, I AM 14 YEARS OLD AND HAVE BEEN A MEMBER OF THE HUSBAND IS THE POOREST Z.I.P. CODE IN THE OF THAT ENVIRONMENT THANKS TO THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB, THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB IMPACT UNITY IN A SAFE PLACE FOR US TO GO TO AFTER SCHOOL AND IN OUR FREE TIME. INSTEAD OF VIOLENCE WE CHOOSE TO GO TO THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB AND ALL ACTIVITIES THAT ARE POSITIVE. OPPORTUNITIES AT THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB ARE LIMITLESS. WE DO THINGS LIKE GO WITH FOOTBALL PLAYERS TO THEIR FOOTBALL GAMES, AND MY FAVORITE IS THE YOUTH ADVOCACY DATE AT WASHINGTON, D.C. I HAD A BLAST, IT WAS MY FIRST PLANE RIDE. I SAW A NATIONAL MONUMENT AND I WAS A TOURIST IN A BIG CITY. THIS CANNOT HAPPEN WITHOUT THE FUNDS, IF YOU TAKE AWAY OUR FUNDS TO TAKE AWAY OUR OPPORTUNITIES. PLEASE DON'T TAKE AWAY OUR OPPORTUNITIES, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, IS BEST. WE HEARD YOU. 14 YEARS OLD, THANK YOO SO MUCH. SPIN-UP KIM CITIES TO BE FOLLOWED BY ROB RENZI. >> GOOD EVENING , I AM THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE LEARNING PAVILION. WE HAVE PROVIDED TO US IS TO GET A IN OUR COMMUNITY FOR OVER -- FUNDINGS SINCE ITS INCEPTION. WE UTILIZE THE FUNDING TO SUPPLEMENT THE SALARIES OF TWO EARLY INTERVENTION POSITIONS. THESE POSITIONS FACILITATE THERAPEUTIC INTERVENTIONS, COORDINATE SERVICES AND PERFORM STANDARDIZED DEVELOPMENT ASSESSMENTS FOR TWO PREKINDERGARTEN CLASSROOMS. OUR UNIQUE MODEL ALLOWS US TO SERVE 25% MORE CHILDREN WITH DISABILITIES THAN A TYPICAL PRESCHOOL AND IT ENABLES US TO MEASURE, TRACK, AND DEMONSTRATE THE EFFECTIVENESS OF OUR PROGRAM. LOSS OF THE FUNDING DIRECTLY IMPACTS THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING WE CONCERNED WITH DISABILITIES. IN THE PAST WHEN FACED WITH LARGE CHANGES , INPUT WAS COLLECTED FROM AGENCIES BEFORE RECOMMENDATIONS WERE MADE, RECOMMENDATIONS CONTAINED REASONABLE TIMELINES. ALLOWING PROVIDERS THE TIME TO PREPARE AND BUDGET. THIS IS A COMPETITIVE PROCESS, BUT HISTORICALLY AGENCIES HAVE BEEN ABLE TO RELY CONSISTENTLY ON THE PROCESS. THE RUSHED MANNER IN WHICH THIS WAS INTRODUCED HAS PUT UNDUE STRESS ON THE CORNERSTONE HUMAN SERVICE AGENCIES, PARTICULARLY THOSE SERVING CHILDREN AND YOUTH. THE RECOMMENDATION MAKES BROAD ASSUMPTIONS REGARDING THE ROLE THAT CHILDREN SERVICE COUNSEL WILL PLAY IN THE FUNDING LANDSCAPE. A COUNTY STAFF FORMERLY APPROACHED THESE MEMBERS IN LATE DECEMBER AND THE COUNCIL'S RESPONSE WAS VERY CLEAR, THEY WOULD NOT CHANGE THE WAY THEY FUND INITIATIVES IN REACTION TO CHANGES IN THE PROCESS, TO CLARIFY, REGARDING OUR CSC, THERE IS NO CURRENT FUNDING OPPORTUNITY FOR EARLY LEARNING, AND OR FOR AGENCIES WHOSE TOTAL REVENUE EXCEEDS OVER $100,000 PER YEAR. AT THE JANUARY MEETING , THREE HIGH-PRIORITY INITIATIVES THEY BEEN WORKING ON HAVE BEEN POSTPONED AND SLATED TO BE REHEARD WITH NO CLEAR DECISIONS OR VOTES THAT WERE MADE REGARDING THE FUNDING FOR EARLY LEARNING. WHILE IT MAY BE THE INTENTION OF YES THE AND COUNTY STAFF TO RELEASE AN EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION, RFP, AND TIME TO ALLEVIATE THE SQUEEZE , THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT IS THE WILL OF THE COUNCILMEMBERS. IN LIGHT OF THE DELAYED TIMELINE , UPCOMING APPOINTMENT OF NEW COUNCILMEMBERS, THERE IS NO WAY TO REASONABLY ASSUME THAT THE YES HE CAN OR WILL RELEASE FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN THE TIMELINE OUTLINED IN THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION. IF THEY E EXPECTED THAT THE AGENCIES AND THE CHILDREN'S SERVICES CATEGORY WILL REVISE THE APPLICATIONS TO ALIGN WITH SAVER CATEGORIES AND INUNDATING THE REMAINING CATEGORIES WITH FUNDING REQUEST IMPACTING AGENCIES THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS, CONSIDER THE RAMIFICATION TO LEADING CATEGORIES ALTOGETHER CURRENTLY APPLICABLE AGENCIES MUST GO THROUGH THE STAGES RATHER THAN APPROACH COMMISSIONERS INDIVIDUALLY FOR FUNDING, THIS WILL OPEN THE DOOR FOR AGENCIES TO START INDIVIDUALLY SOLICITING THE COMMISSION. I URGE YOU TO CONSIDER THE HEALTH AND FABRIC OF THE HUMAN SERVICES SECTOR, MAINTAIN THE SITE OF CATEGORIES UNTIL PROPER ANALYSIS CAN BE DONE AND AGENCIES CAN PREPARE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY. >> THANK YOU. >> ROB WENDY TYLER BUTLER FONDA . IT'S BEEN A GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS, ROB RENZI CEO OF FAN CAMS. THE FIRST THING I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR REDIRECTING STAFF TO COME BACK TO THE AGENCIES AND HAVE CONVERSATIONS THAT'S WHAT WE ARE DOING THAT ABOVE AND BEYOND, THERE WAS A LOT OF FEEDBACK. AND THIS PROPOSAL IS SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER THAN THE ONE YOU SAW THE FIRST TIME. IT IS STILL WITH SOME SIGNIFICANT ISSUES AND CONCERNS FOR THE AGENCIES. THE FIRST IS YOUR AGENDA ITEM THAT IS TWO ITEMS , THEY SENT WARNINGS TO THE GOVERNOR, YOU HAVE VACANCIES ON THE CS HE, YOU HAVE TERMS EXPIRING, AND NOW PERHAPS GOVERNING THE STATE INSTEAD OF RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT. THOSE APPOINTMENT MAY ACTUALLY BE MADE. JUST LIKE THE COUNTY COMMISSION , ONE CSC BOARD CANNOT MAKE UP COMMITMENT FOR THE FOLLOWING CS KEYBOARD. AND BEING INVOLVED WITH THE I.T. AND WITH COMMISSIONER CUMMINGS, LET'S SAY THAT THE CSC IS VERY DELIBERATE. AND THEY USE VOLUNTEERS TO STAFF MEETINGS, SOMETIMES THEY ARE ABSENT , THEN OTHER COMMISSIONERS ARE PRESENT FOR THE CSC, AND BOAT CHANGES. ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT PUTTING ALL YOUR BASKETS IN THE MEETING WHERE ALL OF THE ITEMS HAVE BEEN PUSHED FROM JANUARY , YOU ARE SHRINKING THE CSC PROCESS THAT IS DUE TO START IN OCTOBER. IF IT DOES NOT HAPPEN IN MARCH, DOES A TO JUNE? IS THAT ENOUGH TIME TO RUN THE PROCESS? SO, THAT IS THE FIRST CONCERN, THE SECOND IS THE ORDINANCE, YOU HAVE HAD A SOUND ORDINANCE FOR YEARS NOW WHERE IF YOU ARE ELIGIBLE FOR CHSP YOU CANNOT COME TO THE COUNTY FOR FUNDING. SAME AS THE CITY. BY CUTTING THE CATEGORIES THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO TO CSC, THEY CAN COLLECT IN THREE MINUTES PER CARD AND WE GO DOWN THE PATH OF THE EVENTS FUNDING, WHERE PEOPLE COME IN AND CAN ASK FOR FIVE OR 10 OR $15,000 AFTER THE MEETINGS BECAUSE THE CHSP CATEGORY NO LONGER EXISTS . MY HOPE FOR CONSIDERATION IS THAT YOU RUN DOES GO ONE MORE TIME , AND IN TWO YEARS, FIGURE OUT, LET THE CSC HAVE TIME TO GO THROUGH THEIR PROCESSES, BE DELIBERATE , FIND OUT WHO WAS BEING FUNDED , THEN MAKE YOUR CHANGES WITH THE AGENCIES ALREADY HAVE FUNDING OR HAVE A WAY TO BE FUNDED, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> WILL FONDA, TO BE FOLLOWED BY ADRIANA SUTTON. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. I AM THE CEO OF KIDS INCORPORATED. IS INCORPORATED OF THE BIG BEND IS AN ORGANIZATION THAT SERVES CHILDREN FROM ZERO TO THREE YEARS OLD AND THEIR FAMILIES. WE ARE A RECIPIENT OF THE CHSP IS AT THIS TIME. AND WE HAVE ALSO BEEN A PART OF THE CRT TEAMS AS WELL, WE HAVE LEARNED IN SOME OF OUR STAFF TO SERVE IN THOSE COMMITTEES. , WHILE I UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR THE REALIGNMENT OF THE CHSP PROCESS, I BELIEVE THAT IT IS A DISSERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY , AND A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY, TO CHANGE IT THIS. WE CURRENTLY, OUR ORGANIZATION IS A COUNTRYMEN STATED, WE RECEIVED $115,000 . WITH THAT MONEY, WE ARE ABLE TO DRAW DOWN $460,000. THIS IS WHAT WE POUR BACK INTO OUR COMMUNITY. WE DON'T KNOW AT THIS TIME WHAT ACTIONS THE CSC WILL TAKE ON EARLY LEARNING. SO, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT , AT THIS TIME, WE TAKE THE TIME TO TRULY SEE THE IMPACT THAT THE REALIGNMENT WILL MAKE ON OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU. >> ADRIANA JEAN SUTTON FOLLOWED BY JEAN BUTLER. >> GOOD AFTERNOON , I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF LADIES LEARNING TO LIVE, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE REALIGNMENT OF CHSP CATEGORIES FOCUSED ON CHILDREN AND FAMILY, MORE SPECIFICALLY THE ELIMINATION OF THE YOUTH DEVELOPMENT AND CATEGORY. SINCE THE FOUNDING OF 21 -- 2010 WE HAVE SERVED THOUSANDS OF YOUNG LADIES REPAIRING THEM FOR COLLEGE CAREERS AND LIFE. WHILE THE CHSP PROCESS IS COMPETITIVE, MEANING THAT NO ORGANIZATION IS GUARANTEED FUNDING, THE LOSS OR THE LOSS OF ACCESS FOR OPPORTUNITY IMPACT THE YOUTH THAT WE SERVE. WE ARE CURRENTLY FUNDED THROUGH THE YOUTH DEVELOPMENT CATEGORY, AND PREVIOUSLY RECEIVED FUNDING THROUGH THE BRIDGE PROGRAM. THE ELIMINATION OF THIS CATEGORY WILL IN DOUBT NEGATIVELY AFFECT OUR ABILITY TO PROVIDE SERVICES TO YOUTH IN THIS BIG BEND AREA. OVERALL OUR COMMUNITY ELEPHANTS FROM MENTORING PROGRAMS LIKE OURS AND OTHERS, AND IN GENERAL THE COMMUNITY SEASON INCREASED HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATION RATE, LOWER HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATION RATES, HEALTHIER RELATIONSHIPS AND LIFESTYLE CHOICES AND BETTER ATTITUDE ABOUT SCHOOL. SPEAKING OF L 3 SPECIFICALLY , 87% OF THE GIRLS THAT WERE A PART OF THE PROGRAM , 100% THAT WERE PART OF THE PROGRAM HAVE NOT HAD A CAREER MENTOR BEFORE. 87% OF THE GIRLS SAY THAT BEING A PART OF THE PROGRAM GIVEN MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO REAR FOR THE CAREER AFTER HIGH SCHOOL. 91% SAID THE PROGRAM HELPED THEM TO BE INVOLVED WITH DRUGS AND ALCOHOL. 93% SAID THAT THE PROGRAM HELPED THEM AVOID THE MISCUES SEXUAL ACTIVITY, AND 100% OF THE GIRLS SAID THAT AFTER PARTICIPATING IN THE PROGRAM, THEY FELT THAT THEY HAD WHAT IT TOOK TO BE SUCCESSFUL. SO, I REQUESTED THAT THE COMMISSIONER SEEK GREATER ANALYSIS OF THE IMPACT OF FAMILIES TO TRULY UNDERSTAND THE RIPPLE EFFECT OF SUCH A DECISION BEFORE IT IS MADE . OR SUBSEQUENTLY IF THE AWARD CHOOSES TO MOVE FORWARD , THAT INCLUDES THE DOMINATION OF THE YOUTH DEVELOPMENT AND MENTORSHIP CATEGORY, THAT YOU GIVE COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS MORE TIME TO ADJUST SUCH A DRASTIC REALIGNMENT. THE RECOMMENDATION IS THAT ANY CHANGES TAKE EFFECT AFTER THE FUNDING PROCESS, MEANING THAT THE IMPLEMENTATION WOULD BE SPRING OF 2026, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MS. SUTTON. SYNECDOCHE BUTLER TO BE FOLLOWED BY THE FINAL SPEAKER SONIA WILSON. >> THANK YOU. THE FIRST TIME , IN A T-SHIRT, MY NAME IS VICKI BUTLER AND I AM THE DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK. NORMALLY I TALKED TO YOU ABOUT HOMELESSNESS. I TALKED TO YOU ABOUT THE FIGHT THAT WE ARE DOING . TODAY I TALKED TO YOU AS A PARENT. YOU PROBABLY DID NOT EXPECT THAT. THIS IS A RECENT GRADUATE FROM A CHILD HIGH SCHOOL, I ALSO HAVE AN AUTISTIC, CIVILIAN STATISTIC NONVERBAL NEPHEW , 5 YEARS OLD. I UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF --, I ALSO UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS REALIGNMENT. I LOOKED PRETTY CLOSELY AT THE PACKET AND CALLED YOUR STAFF MULTIPLE TIMES ASKING LOTS OF QUESTIONS. SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I TOOK AWAY FROM IT, I AM TRYING TO BE SHORT WITH YOU. THIS MONEY ALL COMES FROM TAX DOLLARS , IT COMES FROM THE SAME POINT . SO, WE HAVE GOT MONEY GOING DIRECTLY TO CHILDREN, WHICH IS GREAT, OBVIOUSLY. -- THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT THIS MONEY IS COMMITTED TO THE CHILDREN. TO ME, MONEY THAT THE VOTERS HAVE SAID YOU CANNOT TOUCH , THIS IS ONLY FOR CHILDREN, NOT CHILDREN PLUS A ROAD PROJECT, CHILDREN PLUS SOMETHING ELSE, YOU CANNOT PUSH IT ASIDE AND SAY THERE IS SOMETHING MORE IMPORTANT, THIS IS ONLY FOR CHILDREN AND FAMILIES. TO ME THAT IS A GUARANTEE. MONEY THAT IS IN CHS BE, IF SOMETHING IS MORE IMPORTANT TO MY UNDERSTANDING, IF SOMETHING THAT IS MORE URGENT AND MORE IMPORTANT, THAT MONEY COULD BE CUT BACK AT ANY TIME. THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING, MAYBE I AM WRONG. TO ME, AS A PARENT , I WANT GUARANTEED MONEY FOR MY KIDS, THAT IS WHAT I AM LOOKING AT TODAY. I AM NOT LOOKING AT WHAT THE REALIGNMENT MEANS , AGENCY. THOUGH IT IS IMPORTANT FOR MY AGENCY. I AM NOT GOING TO DOWNPLAY IT. I AM LOOKING AT WHEN AM I GOING TO GIVE ALL MY KIDS FUTURE ? WILL I GIVE A LITTLE KNOWING THAT THE HSP MONEY IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE THERE AT THIS LEVEL , OR AM I GOING TO SAY THAT I KNOW THIS STABLE, RENEWABLE FUND WILL BE THERE EVERY YEAR. AND I WANT TO GAMBLE ON THAT. I AM A SURE BET. THAT IS HOW I APPROACH IT. THE OTHER THING THAT I WAS A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT WAS SEEING THE INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE DIPPING INTO PARTS. THAT IS DOUBLE DIPPING, IT DOES NOT MATTER HOW YOU LOOK AT IT, THAT IS DOUBLE DIPPING. THERE IS NO OTHER POT. THERE IS NO COUNSEL FOR THE ELDERLY. THERE IS NOT OTHER POTS OF MONEY BEING CREATED FOR OTHER AGENCIES TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT FROM. I DO NOT WISH THEM ANY ILL WILL , BUT RIGHT IS RIGHT AND WRONG IS WRONG. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. IT'S BEEN A I CAN SPEAK ON THE ISSUE , SONIA WILSON? >> ALL RIGHT , SORRY. NO, I AM SONIA WILSON, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE KEARNY CENTER. WHAT I WANTED TO SHARE THIS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE AS WELL. I SPENT THE LAST 16 YEARS LOOKING FOR A PROFITABLE COMPANY. SO, I SUPERVISED OVER 200 STORES OVER 13 STATES . I HAVE FELT WHAT HOMELESSNESS WILL DO TO OUR BUSINESSES IN OUR LOCAL SHOPPING CENTERS. IT IS A SEVERE IMPACT TO BOTH HOMEOWNERS AND TO LOCAL BUSINESSES WHEN WE HAVE HOMELESS PEOPLE SLEEPING ON OUR FRONT PORCHES AND THAT OUR VECTORS. WE MAY NOT WANT TO LOOK AT IT , THAT THIS ENCUMBERS CUSTOMERS FOR SHOPPING , BUT IT GREATLY IMPACTS , WHAT ULTIMATELY HAPPENS IS THE BUSINESS IS CLOSED. THAT IS THE REALITY. MY JOB SINCE I HAVE COME TO THE KEARNY CENTER IS TRULY TO ERADICATE HOMELESSNESS IN TALLAHASSEE , AND TO MAKE SURE WE PROVIDE AN ENVIRONMENT TO HELP THOSE THAT ARE ABLE TO TRANSITION INTO SELF-SUFFICIENCY , -- AND I ARE WORKING COUNTLESS HOURS. THIS IS A STAFF OF 35 PEOPLE WE OPERATE 365 DAYS A YEAR, 24 HOURS A DAY. IT IS A TALL LEFT FOR US ON OUR FUNDING. WE HAVE HAD TO CUT OUR STAFF IN ORDER TO PROVIDE FOR OUR CLIENTS. WE ARE IN NEED OF ADDITIONAL BETTING, THE MAJORITY OF THIS MONTH WE HAD OVER 400 CLIENT , WE ARE SERVING WELL OVER 1000 MEALS A DAY. WHAT I DID NOT TELL YOU IS THAT I STARTED MY HUMBLE BEGINNING AS A SOCIAL WORKER WORKING FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY AND CHILDREN SERVICES. SO, I HAVE A CONNECTION TO OUR FAMILIES AND OUR CHILDREN. LIKE VICKI SAID, I WISH NOEL WILL . YOU GUYS ARE IN A MOST DIFFICULT SITUATION. HAVING TO MAKE THE CHOICE . BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT OUR MEAT CONTINUES TO GROW . AND IF WE ARE GOING TO ERADICATE HOMELESSNESS , I NEED YOUR PARTNERSHIP AND SUPPORT SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO DO THE WORK THAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO DO AT THE KEARNY CENTER, THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> THINK YOU VERY MUCH. SPIRIT THAT CONCLUDES THE COMMISSIONERS PUBLIC SPEAKERS ON THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM. WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED AT 6:00 , I IMAGINE THAT THIS PARTICULAR ITEM WILL HAVE SOME VERY ROBUST DISCUSSION, AND I WOULD RATHER NOT INTERRUPTED WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING. SO, WHAT WE WILL DO NOW IS WE WILL RECESS UNTIL 6:00 , WE WILL HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:00'S , THEN WE COME BACK TO THE PARTICULAR ITEM, THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> THOSE OF YOU IN THE AUDIENCE, WE WILL TAKE UP THIS ITEM AFTER OUR PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:00. I DON'T EXPECT A PUBLIC HEARING TO BE BEFORE THEN. OTHER THAN ONE OR TWO MINUTES AT THE MOST, ONE TO FIVE MINUTES, THEN WE WILL TAKE OUR POSITION, THANK YOU SO MUCH.