watch [Music] us than that we don't get advertising money we have to get it back we have to wait till that little things that we on right it's been seven weeks I forget the procedure well we're just empty because everyone's at uh third Thursday oh Thursday oh yeah there's not no one's going to be watching we should have put a TV up at third Thursday are we um are we we not it should be live yeah even though might be on the other channel or there might be that much of a delay oh there we are now we're live okay I I can see me that's me over there right yeah all right so why don't we start with the pledge of the Allegiance Pledge thank evening Welcome to our June 13th pln of a meeting it we're a little rusty because we haven't done this in about seven weeks I think it's been it's it been seven six weeks been a little while it's been a while yeah so the first order of business is Board elections and appointments and I'd like to start out by nominating Jeff Yates as chairman of the planning board I've had a couple of years of fun and if Jeff wants to do it I'd be happy to turn the reins over to Jeff you did a great job at Tom meeting and I think would be great if you were a chair of the planet board thank you anybody have second okay oh excuse me before that I'd like to welcome Daryl Bak I'm just going to jump right in yeah thank you welcome welome darl have you done your stuff at the okay good we have oh we even have a real name for him all right welcome by the way thank you for the second all those in favor of Jeff being chair signify by saying I I I good uh I nominate Mark for vice chair I think uh his especially for the last what how many years have you been doing this your institutional memory is valuable um so I uh can I hear second second well I actually wanted to hear whether or not Mr Bartlett Harvey would like to because he has not um that's true had an opportunity to be Vice chair and so I wanted to see if I think I'm still a little green for that position so plus you are a clerk I've been clerk for a year or something yeah which Marin has over taken over some of my duties but reading the statements but so I take it that that is you would not like to accept not to be appointed to that position okay can I hear a second for Mark second um so let's vote on Mark uh appointing Mark as Vice chair I I hi I okay I can't vote for myself right now well you can Bartlet would you still like to be clerk would you it's pretty light lifting I would actually like to nominate Daryl so you're your last uh person in so you we are assigning you the really signal honor of lordship um unless Bartlet you want to fight for it no I I'm willing to give it up okay uh I nominate uh Daryl for um clerk I'll second that all in favor I nominated Daryl for clerk but that's okay oh oh sorry you can second if you'd like I'll second uh all uh all in favor of uh Daryl for clerk please signify by saying I I I okay so that's the first um congratulations item in our agenda do you want to talk about the hours before we jump into bills and everything else well it's not on the agenda but um how do we how do we you know 6:30 is better for you it is I I concur um would 630 would be better for me yes darl that works okay so let's from here on and until we revisit it let's um start the hearing or the meetings at 6:30 um the next item are appointments um Community preservation committee I am currently on that and I've enjoyed it quite a bit um and I would like to continue that um unless there's someone else who wants to wrestle me for it well to some degree you're you know you're in the I'm currently on the affordable housing trust which there's overlap with the community preservation committee um a little bit yes well in the sense that weing funding that's where the money comes from yeah and Bartlett is also um part of it yeah so um but I'll put it up to discussion would anyone else like to be on that committee okay um how do we do appointments maren is it a vote or um it's usually quite informal from this board anyway um so I I think I would like to continue on that committee the transportation advisor Council I didn't realize not met for quite some time I know and I I was on that too and I'm aware of the um they met just a month ago they meet about every two months well but they did did didn't he resign yeah Michael just resigned um there seems to be I don't know Mark you may know more about it than I do but there seems to be uh you well the select would have to would have to appoint a new chairman or someone it was Gary lroy and then it was Michael took over um there's vacancies the for the for the select board to appoint and no one's applied no one's applied so what do we think do we point I mean I can continue on that also um but for instance the last meeting was that there was a conflict with some other committee that I had had to I had to be on is there anyone interested in those issues that would like to be con uh to consider that committee they usually meet on a Tuesday around 5 o' yeah and it's it's always been Zoom so I think from the standpoint of um especially with Daryl being um new to the board uh typically we each take on another kind of liaison roll to these committees and um sometimes it's been more than one and then we report back to this board with any updates and any related type so over the past year we had quite a bit of activity with generating um reports for the state for Grant purposes we had the bicycle we had the you know a bicycle and pedestrian study we had a a park and wreck study um which all which we had represent of the planning board on those things I'm not aware of that I that cycle is over we're yeah coming into the end of it with the finishing up of the hazard mitigation Hazard mitigation which we had a presentation on so so help me out um we we're talking about Transportation advisory committee what other um committees do we have appointments on um well the master plan implement committee I'm not aware of how active they've been recently right I mean we're in the cycle now where it's been several years since the master plan was adopted they did a really big update um that was published last year um for where the town stood on implementing the master plan yeah and we're starting to look ahead to you know the next update to the master plan in a handful of years years so any any other committees we appoint to not that this board appoints to but often um if there are select board appointments that you're interested in sitting on other committees then you sure you had an through that process um so anyone interested in transportation advisory now from my exper George um chair Jo 62 I think maybe you probably should hold off because the the select board is going to have to do something there's 18 names on that committee Which is far more than any committee that we have and U I was talking to the clerk and they need to revamp that um there there's a problem with that committee as a whole but because of the large number of members you need to get a qual we always run into a problem with 18 people and and that's the problem that we have with that committee for me I don't think it should be more than five people there because nor three people show up yeah um my experience was that um there was not a huge number of people there are the as I recall the committee was set up as a sort of dissin ation of information committee you know so we occasionally have the highway department there you know they occasionally discussed um State Highway uh issues um but we have a selectman here what do you think Mark so they're trying to make the transportation advisory committee have more targeted focused goals like whether or not um one idea is whether or not the um highways through the center of town should be state roads or or town roads and what that would mean or you know pursing sidewalks and what that would take in more places so I think the committee needs to get a little more focused um but we haven't actually met to talk about that since the the chair resigned so okay so um how do you feel about waiting my opinion on that is I have with other committees there is is I prefer the select board to make a new charge for that committee and then we appoint when that new charge is is made we can wait I have no problem with that anyone else have a problem sounds good okay uh master plan implementation committee I should know more about it cuz my wife was I think she authored that report that you just talked about I don't know um I don't know anything else about it I mean did we have a she kept on asking me questions but we didn't did we have an official uh appointment to that committee um and if so who was it way back Anna was on it I was on it it was Delisa oh was Delisa okay and I was on it before the Lisa yeah okay so um is there any anyone interested uh in that effort how frequently do they meet and when I don't think they meet much at all I think one of the things um that um alluded to is is the timing for the next master plan is going to be coming up fairly soon and so from the standpoint I think of getting up for what that'll look like could be a charge of the Impe just putting it out there yeah but we're still a couple of years away from that yeah but kind of winding down this one and figuring out what the next one would be so to answer you darl it's not a huge time I I don't even know who who's the chairman now I mean I don't think it's still Laura [Music] to get there okay well it doesn't it doesn't matter we we hold off on that one yeah we'll hold off on that one too um and we'll um okay so right now Bartlett's on CPC I'm on affordable housing trust and that's it I'm on CPC oh you're at CPC too yeah so keep you're on CPC through another board though right okay so we have a lot of representation on the CPC um Mr chair before we move forward can I ask a question sure of um our new member Mr Baker who is now Mr clerk would you like to sit here so the officers are up here okay well I just thought i' put that out there happy to switch you switch with you okay um okay so board business minutes of prior meetings has does anyone have any uh comments Corrections about the May 2nd meeting or the May 2nd minutes and we have minutes for the town meeting um we had posted a planning board meeting and there was some planning board discussion so yeah okay any comments um would anyone like to move that we accept those minutes I move that we approve the minutes of May 2nd and May 7 I'll second that okay uh let's take a vote all in favor of accepting the minutes of May 2nd and May 7th please say I I I um we've you're not missing much okay so um you know bringing up town meeting I want to say congratulations to everyone for the effort that we made over the spring to get the um uh NBTA communities um zoning approved um maren tells me that for the fall time meeting we will have some kind of housekeeping could you explain what we have to do for that um yeah we noticed a a numbering error and so we'll have to and at the same time we are waiting for the state to uh weigh in on their uh right when when we hear back from hlc given the number of comments they've made for some communities I guess I wouldn't be surprised if we have um some comments but we'll wait and address those there'll be the time line works so there will be time to address those if necessary um next item are bills are there any bills there are okay U peer review bills um bills from in Associates um for the NBTA communities work and we can just pass the whole folder I'm curious if Emily is working with any communities that are still whereing yeah so by by this date um most of the communities um that had Springtown meetings scheduled they're done with those some communities um will be taking it up at fall Town meetings Okay um as we pass along the bills um member input member member update on projects uh Northern Bank I can report I was poking on subway is gone it's empty um that site is now completely vacant um don't know I don't know anything uh I'm noticing more and more cars parked in Hager Homestead have we had more closings for that or no not in the building of the flats part of the building right started the procedure right they have they have announced the lottery process for for the two um for the 60% and the 80% Ami units um they started advertising already for that um they did share that information with the town and we posted that to the website and went out with the news um so SCB uh housing is uh the lottery agent for that so questions go to to them um 12 Robinson is proceeding a pace and they're putting he was they were planning on putting the roof back on of the barn today but didn't quite make that but that's nexted in line um anyway and does anyone else have any comments on any uh other updates on projects I do okay so for the affordable housing trust we received one response to the RFP that went out for hadwan Road and so we'll be discussing that at our June 25th meeting um also the trust ncpc will have a quick joint meeting on June 25th which is a meeting that was moved from the original date of June 18th um and we're going to review uh the agreement um we got it back from Town Council I think today or yesterday um some minor edits it goes back to a an older agreement that had been tossed around a little bit so we got that all settled up and that's an agreement that needs to be signed for when funds are transferred from CPC to the affordable housing trust got could you remind um everyone what the tahan project entails yeah so that is going to be a it the intention is to have a duplex built and so the intended um homeowners will participate um in the building if Habitat for Humanity is um approved as the um developer builder for that and um the thought is to have one two-bedroom unit and one three-bedroom unit um but as a duplex okay um and this just so people as I understand it this is a site that was um made available when we acquired the brown property okay correct correct right the the grants that the town um got when the town purchased uh the Brownswood site um was a stronger Grant because affordable housing trust um was interested in part of the parcel for affordable housing and actually um did some of the local match by purchasing the lot that that's being developed okay um anything else yes oh okay I have about five items so um I'm going to put this up here for everyone to see at home and then I'll just pass it around so many boards and committees are being asked to share this invitation so I'm sharing it with our board and for the viewing audience this is an invitation to the Littleton senior FES which is going to be held on Sunday July 7th 2 to 4 30 in the High School auditorium so apparently the Foles was something that was done I I know I know Laura has gone to a fing so they're going to be doing a screening of those so that was something else um I did want to ask um is a planning department submitting something for the July newsletter I don't even know what the July newsletter is so the Town Administrator has been collecting Snippets of activity for the newsletter the first edition was in June you traveling so you may not have noted I may not have noticed it anyway so where so where does it come how does it come into our so Mar would you like to talk more about that you would um sign up on the website for email notifications it just comes with the news as a news flash okay well that seems interesting yeah since we don't have the independ so some of some of the um this the uh trustees um put some language together so that's going to be in the July Edition so the deadlines are the 15th of the month um in order to publish for the upcoming month and so it's just like a update on projects anything at all that we would want to talk about so I think it's a good opportunity for us to share out to the community what's going on okay I guess we'll we can send you the that was oh I'll I'll I'll sign up for it and we'll see what I I get from another town that I own property and I get something similar and it's very chatty and you know but it is does have information yeah this one had a lot of input from the Departments as well as um I think maybe just one or two committees M so well do you think we you think we should I think it's a good idea even if it's just a couple of paragraphs to update so for example the the um the projects that we list you know Northern Bank higar MBTA King Street and 12 Robinson Road those are the ones that we're focused on the most right now so even if we do a quick can we submit photos M because you know 12 Robinson is becoming sort of interesting um there a lot of different committees had you know had made that happen uh select board historical commission um yeah everybody loves pictures yeah you could probably even put links to videos you know all that kind of stuff I I think that um Town Administrator dougen is pretty open to okay most things that we would think about okay so why don't we just leave it that it this we do something that's of interest to the town that we should make sure that we send a blurb over to M dougen's office that it can be in the well interestingly he actually made the ask of all the chairs of the Committees and now that Mr Yates is the chair did he did ask I I didn't want to step on Jeff's toes so I just ignored it until I'm sure that's my toes are banged up already you can step um so I wanted to mention that okay well I think yeah I can see the planning St groaning over there going one more thing so I think it's going to be up to individual members to uh um highlight what they're thinking about or interested in communicating so I see my AR Shing ah head that would be most helpful yeah well I mean it maybe it may be you know I and and then if it's nothing then we have to you know get a little more forceful but you know I'm thinking you know if I'm I'm around I can if when the big roof is put back onto the barn you know they have a huge crane it's sort of interesting um if I you know if I can get go see go with go for but I mean it's the kind of situation that had we had that newsletter 6 months ago there could have been more about the whole um NBTA project what's the uptake from Town's people in terms of getting it we'd have to ask Mr dougen that question I okay I mean is it like 12 people last session or last issue was the first one so okay who and then is it's his office the one that's putting it together um well it's it's a very simple um submission process you submit things to a link and then um it Department um puts it together to publish and it's published electronically so so chair are only asked to provide the content so are our meetings going back to the first Thursday of the month is that um so thanks for asking we have schedu um we did the schedule and it's a good question so Thursday July 11th Thursday August 1 Thursday September 12th Thursday October 3rd um are the dates that we had and the reason I asked is when I was chair I was asked if we wanted to participate in the third Thursday have a booth there to be at third Thursday so people could come up and ask us questions yeah um the one really strong success um with that was um when the master plan Plan update steering committee members um had a um local survey that they wanted like two or three questions and they had a table and um went through that exercise and they um man the booth and we got a lot of good feedback they were able to share where they were in the ma master plan process at that point so when there's something focused like that um that worked well well okay tonight is third Thursday which we obviously missed so could we add an item on the board business agendas about this newsletter you know just to assess what the board's interest would be I mean we get so many complaints about I never heard about this I never you know right this is I don't know if this is going to be any better but um it would be you know redirect people to the town website which doesn't seem to do anything um yeah this is just a rehash of the website really well except that it yeah it's less dry it's it's it's in a much shorter format a digestible format so the next question is um well I don't know if it's for this meeting but I'm curious about how they're going to um you know gatekeep the submissions or you know I mean anyway could go off the Els desolate plans of my men okay next so anyone else you have more you only had three of your five I think but so uh I think one of the things that I was thinking about um because it's back to finding the information it's not that it's not technically there if you read through all the minutes and all the things there but I was thinking you know it might be worth while and I might try to take the first crack at it of is there putting together some kind of like overall sort of master schedule of all of the projects that are rolling when they're expected to start when they're expected to end and any of the major Milestones on it because you get questions all the time like how much longer is this this sewer construction going to go on when's this project going to come online when's this project expected to come online recognizing schedules change but having something that maybe just gave an overall picture of of all of the activities and when they're going to hit might be something that would be useful both for information as well as if planning in terms of when a bunch of activity is is expected so that that was the idea behind member input and update uh which has been sort of informal um for instance the sewer did anyone they had a meeting while I was away did anyone go did we get any updates Mark are you up there was there wasn't much of an update on okay uh that's that's a good point because we get a but for instance we don't know when Northern Bank is going to start they're not they're not no public Rel we can say that we we have we have we do have especially and included in the conditions for 550 King we do have a schedule for that they have a very detailed which parcel is going to be built when but we know that that's you know whether it'll be adhered to so there is you know there is some info um darl please if you want to I'm going to look at it I haven't figured out what it might look like yet but it it may just be um this you know member input section of the meeting just update like for instance Hager hpad um we have an interest in you know knowing how that turns out in fact I don't know I would love to get a little tour but I don't know even who you would you know they're probably so rung out by this whole process that I don't know if that could happen I mean it's a very unique project um is that first senior housing that way really and an in particular worked very hard for the affordability component um and uh you know as it comes to completion it would be nice you know to acknowledge that and just say this is what happened um so anyway yes please this something I'm going to think about yeah and and and um let's put it on the agenda for I in some way well we'll do maybe with the me we'll bring it up see if you have any further thoughts good luck so the other two items um for future discussion would be um a retreat we haven't had one in a couple of years in terms of you know Big Ticket items so to speak that might be important to discuss and then the other one is um signing of a of a code of contuct mhm so what is is there a townwide code of contact conduct is this applying to us how does this work um so there is no townwide code of conduct um there is the uh code of conduct that the select board adopted and um I believe has been working on um some amendments too um I would suggest if you're looking for one the start start with the one that they have created for their use well I I don't think we need to go further than that unless there's some aspect of it that does it work for us but um uh can we put that on under board business for next meeting uh what's what is the status of your the selectman's work on that the select board approve uh we re ratified the code of conduct at our first meeting after the election so okay you'll need to slightly adopt it for your purposes because it you know we talks about our interaction with the Town Administrator and I talk about your interaction with the planning staff instead mhm so okay um so Mar will you get us copy of that that would be great okay what next oh Retreat yeah I I don't know we've had these we've had the occasional dinner which was sort of a substitute what what what are you what are you thinking of so I'm thinking about it from the perspective of um how much planning department has evolved and what we would um like to be able to to see maybe from the planning department since Cooper has been on board now for eight months seven seven there you go exactly um feels like eight but uh things that um I know have been raised in the past but um because of having too much work you what can now be um done differently whether it's um ensuring timeliness of of um applicants um bringing their applications to us or other processes that we are involved in for example our own policies as to how we take a look at applications and the process we follow for decision making um I think the last time we approved an update or draft of our policies was six years ago when I started in 2018 so taking a look at those policies so things like that okay um by the way I was gratified that we didn't have any last minute um drawings this week um kept on looking at my email to see what what was coming I mean right that's thing we don't want to have right so of course um and then the other thing that I can think of is for a brief time you did these action sheets or what did you call them I would love to see that again right exactly so having those discussions about what we'd like to see because we don't have time in these meetings to really get into those kind of discussions yeah okay uh how do we want to go about this in terms of when do we want to go what what do you you know are we talking about you know like uh two hours with the lunch or yeah okay okay I think that's doable okay and uh do we want to accomplish it over the summer do we are are we all going to be here for the you know well knowing that once September hits it's pretty busy September and October so if at all possible have a well and we were thinking that the summmer so far looking pretty you know pretty compared to the spring um yeah so uh have any comments about this idea any comments about when we should do this um it could theoretically be on an off Thursday evening um it could be which you evening is probably going to be I hate to eat into people's weekends uh evening is probably going to be the most you know Humane yeah I I can do evening or you know if I know it far enough in advance I can do lunch as well yeah okay um what what about a a meeting in July August that we're not going to be that busy we stay an extra hour afterwards and have it after our meeting okay or do it before and bring in some food or something yeah something like that so the next meeting is uh July 11 11 do we have a lot on it um well depending on your schedule if you vote um to schedule the public hearing on the marijuana bylaw update that would be and then I have not heard of any new applications any new big applications coming in could we do it at 5 and uh for an an hour and a half and um yeah seems reasonable why don't we do it at 6 and schedule everything else after at 7 um um was that too late well I don't care five is fine I mean I can I can leave what do we think some people still have jobs so they might be to get five I you're my hot button with people who act like we don't have jobs and you know we're just anyway um idle Rich uh what do we think yeah I like that idea what date were you thinking about 11th July 11th that's our next meeting yeah and just meet early um Among Us have um yeah we can even be outside um have the well does this it has to be a posted meeting okay whatever um and posted outside in the courtyard yeah yeah um anyway and we can uh at least least and then if we come prepared with what we want to see you know so we can get something out of this meeting you know um there issues um obviously the staff um and uh anyway so put in your counts 5:00 and so how would you post that you would just say 5:00 U um board retreat 5:00 until 6:30 or whatever time you start the regular meeting and then at um the posted at the time um where it's you've got regular board business then that's when um lctv would start okay so it'll be an open meeting but it won't be televised correct I mean that means George can come but won't be on television probably wouldn't order him dinner but no okay speaking of which what are we going to do let's do something different than no Forno not that a pH isn't very good that was kind of the standard for a few years wasn't it it was very good um I'm I'm happy to take suggestions and I I whatever whatever people want we we can um those kinds of details actually you can do whatever you want yeah you do whatever you I'm just kidding I don't care um so hold on one second I want to put this don't worry morning I'll send you an update okay um okay now we're at the uh public input the public input George thank you Mr chairman uh first I want to say that um I'm very pleased that uh citizen here in Lon pass that MBTA situation for Lon and keep us on course with the state and being in good hands with them as far as uh getting grants and so forth talking about the newsletter uh I spoke at the select board meeting and uh I mentioned to the Town Administrator that um I thought that uh they could uh have a few of those letters at places where a lot of citizens sort of kind of comes in and that would be at the town clerk office and also EHS and I forgot to add the library as a place and I think they could could print down maybe 20 and when they get low they could go back and print some more uh of that and just have that available for people and I think that's one way that we can get the word out about this news left because right now everybody do not have a computer to get online to see what's going on there um other comment that I had here was with regard to the S uh I still stay in contact with Nick and I advocate for the town of Litton all the time about monies uh for Grant so forth and so on so I've sent letters to uh Jim and seral with regards to U putting money available because they just passed that Bond uh just a few days ago in the house they 15 156 to Zer and it's now over in uh the Senate house there and um I I I would like to point out that it's probably going to be some time before uh a Northern Bank do anything in this town because one uh they have to get uh more discharge site right now is 243,000 gallons that's already committed and uh Nick says that uh you should be able to do the common eror with 60,000 so they got a spot up at U the high school up there they're developing and hopefully that EPA is going to let them uh uh prove that sight up there but they got the pump water up there for X number of days uh to show them on the perking of that uh particular area up there so he told me roughly we're looking at about 18 months before the plant is going to be finished so we know it's 18 months out before anything's going to start happening up there there and if the if the they got the data back uh the Consultants of the places that they have that all they got to do now is look into uh what area that they want to work with on that so the SE is coming along I asked uh Mr uh jerio to aark some money for uh the discharge site from that plant because right now we don't have to increase the plant to increase the production there we need land to put the clean water into so that's what uh the Light and Water there is looking at is trying to find more areas that they can put that U clean water into so I told Jim when we do find land that we can use that meets the D specs we need the money to buy so I told him that that you need to put some of that money that we got in there and I understand that the Speaker of the House According to Jim which I'm going to be meeting with him on the 28th of this month to bring me up to date with everything that's going on that he is pushing for SE and water out of that bond that was passed so that's a a big Plus in the sense there so I told him try to air marks money in there for the housing area because what they put a building in down there near the ra uh the the train station plus whatever have the 550 appear I say you know you're still going to need a place to discharge in order to discharge right now we are committed with the high school that's the only place we have the discharge right now so we got to find more before we can increase the production at the plant and to take on the common area thank you sir thank you okay Ark any okay uh item three board discussion zoning bylaw Amendment amend article 27 registered marijuana dispensaries and Article 28 adult use marijuana establishments to limit the number of marijuana cult cultivation special permits uh we tonight we are scheduled to schedule a public hearing on this issue this um that was in our packet is the [Music] actual so what I had provided was a lot of backup um and the cover um to try to find a format um that we can start working working with for um you know outlining what information I'm providing the staff is providing to you and um what the request is for the board action so that was that that was this cover this is pretty daunting I mean it as I understand it part of this effort is to bring our bylaw in compliance with the latest CCC uh ideas uh the the other issue is um seeking to limit uh cultivation sites in town right and the last uh discussion that the board had it was kind of Broad and I wanted to make sure that I understood that it was the whole board's wish to move forward with these three um different goals well these three goals combined um on the upate which are the three goals okay um one to delete the outdated um um registered uh the medical marijuana um piece roll the important parts of that into um the adult use marijuana establishment zoning bylaw um and update second thing to update that um bylaw to meet current standards and the third uh to limit the number of marijuana grow facilities um because that's was I's understanding of what the board had asked for and that's what's drafted um and in in the packet for consideration um darl the background is that we have probably spent more time on marijuana related issues uh we've spent an incredible amount of time and we also have received an incredible amount of complaints uh about the existing grow facility so um I think the is interested in such limitations I I want to people to talk about how we get there because I this is a lot um and like the NBTA Community um effort we have to really just edit edit edit from a legalistic point of view down to you know what we hope to accomplish with right I think we're starting in a very good point because we have a strong draft from Town Council I'm glad you mention and I didn't pay you to say it I'm glad you mentioned the process for adopting own bylaw that's that that brings up the point the reason we stopped short of it before was because it was so daunting do we really need something that much can we just have an understanding with the select board that you need a host Community agreement to do this it's not in the town's interest anymore we're not getting any added REM revenue from it we just don't issue any more host Community agreements we agree amongst ourselves that one is enough and just stop there we don't have to reinvent the wheel and have 30 pages of a new bylaw when we can agree amongst ourselves that we have what we have is what we have and that's it we stop there because everybody has to go through the select if correct me if I'm wrong don't they have to get a host Community to start they don't need a host Community now to no we don't have to issue host for them to proceed yes I thought that was what this whole thing was all about no host Community Agreements are no longer required we're issuing them but they're no longer required they can still get a special permit and get through the Cannabis Control Commission without a was committing agreement so so I think one of the things that we we want to consider understanding is why is it that it's not as easy to go in as when we put in the um the delivery marijuana we added two licenses why can't we just literally go into the bylaw and say zero or one or whatever number we wind up deciding on why can't we just do that okay and um that's because when you are going to if you were to try to go to zero if you were prohibiting um then that would also take a ballot vote because um Littleton was a yes Community um so that you're required to not going to zero well well and that's that's the discussion we're going well no you would be going that's part of the question um if you're going to zero addition Craft um Growers then that would um require bothe the zoning plus a ballot vote because you're prohibiting and allowed use under terrible to go to a Bella vote I mean no it's just that's just what the process is Mr chair may I pass these out um yeah I don't know sure why they were distributed um to everybody in our packet of stuff but um I think it's important that we all are on the same page to show that there are various types of cultivators in our bylaw so what I just passed out is a little chart that and there could be misinformation on here I don't know I don't believe there is but there could be so under the cultivators we currently have four different types there's a cultivation factor in the registered marijuana dispensary the rmd then we have craft marijuana cooperatives in our bylaw we have the quote traditional cultivator and then we have Micro bus so we technically have four types of cultivator so when we talk about this and we talk about reducing the licenses in my head technically we have two right now because Sanctuary has one through the rmd and Sanctuary has one through the traditional cultivator that's the way I see it I don't know how see it as one license you see it as two well look at maren's head so um so I think what ia saying well what we have to be careful of is under state law what's required and we're required to allow at least one craft marijuana cooperative and at least I'm not probably not going to say it right but um you're comparing it to the local bylaw the state has is looking at it according to um the the CCC regulations about the different types of cultivators okay so let me start from that standpoint so these four different types this these are the same types as at the state level I I can't say that I don't know okay well that would be one question I would have for EA are are these different types of businesses defined anywhere um yeah the state has definitions for all the types but it's not in the bylaw anymore it is in our bylaw it is it is okay and some of the updates to the bylaw will include updating the definitions to better match uh the state regulations okay so cut to the chase rather than discuss this tonight at Great length and at nauseum we need to just schedule to we need to decide whether we want to go down this route and schedule this that's what we're really all we're talking about we can look at this and everything else but until we bring iy in and we know where we are with the state in eyes of the state I think it would be a good idea to get you know what the questions of the board are to have to be prepared for the for the public hearing um and to understand if what the what the parameters are would it be better well would it be better to say what the goal is the goal is to limit C you know cultivation facilities that's it MH um I think we're you know our retailer situation is fine um I don't really understand what the micro business or craft marijuana Cooperative is we could find it you know that would be good for a subject of a public hearing so that anyone who's interested could find out otherwise um you know we have a manufacturer we I we did have this discussion when we approved the delivery licenses which I found at that point extremely confusing um and that may have changed since then uh we have a Testing Lab um don't know so one of one of the goals of a hearing would be to get us to understand I mean our goal is for whatever effort we do to limit cultivation the cultivators but as part of that to understand and I doubt we need to have a you know granular understanding of it but to at least um understand how all by the way thank you for this um so our experience when IA came you know because we originally cons were sort of throwing this at the wall to try to do it at um the regular town meeting and we realized no with NBTA we just did not have the bandwidth um nor with the town meeting have the bandet um so it is appropriate to try to get it for the special town meeting um based on the schedules that have been set out that would have to be uh submitted by September 14th if we wanted to to maybe not specific the specific uh warrant but we'd have to make a place for it so the question we would have is can we get can we do a hearing you know July August um on this matter and come to a conclusion now with I I've got to say um it's wonderful to have access to um experts but we need to just um tone down the granularity of um you know putting together a bylaw is something that we're not going to do by committee um we just but we need to specifically uh articulate what our goal is and so is there are there any other goals besides limiting the cultivation you know cult the uh further cultivation in town or finding out more about this these other type of businesses is there anything else I think it could go two different ways uh there one you could just attack just the specific question update the language to match the new thing and the cultivation thing here I haven't dug into what the state requirements and the state model is versus our local piece here because I'm of the mind of like it sounds like ours is more complex than it needs to be uh in terms of um you know does the state require you have to have it defines them but does it require you to have them in your law on your bylaw and I would be tending more towards revamping if you know in terms of overall edits is to bring it down to the minimum requirements of the state and keep it at the minimum requirements and not have all of the complexity that if the state doesn't say that you have to have four categories of grow sites you only have what they're defined then we should my opinion is that we should simplify our bylaw and eliminate all of that complexity uh there uh for it because I think the intent is is we want to limit the number of grow sites whether they're micros cultivators or craft uh here uh on it or there's a good reason that these still exist in our bylaw to um as categories well I think what we'll find when we are up against an attorney who special specializes in this it's unlikely that we're going to get a smooth streamlined um and I I guess the the theory is that if you don't mention it then you're leaving yourself open anyway I don't know the other the other thing we're we're dealing with an existing bylaw which um well I don't know let's schedule Let's uh who's interested in scheduling a hearing for next meeting I think we have to yeah yeah cuz it's going to take a while to do this and and um um you know I I would like some background information on what the what the state requirements are for the Z for the bylaws um can I entertain a motion to um schedule the hearing you okay I move there we schedule a hearing what time do you want to we're starting at 6:30 we also are having our little Retreat um so what time would you want schedule is for um I would suggest if we do board business at 6:30 do this at 7 okay that would leave you time for as long a discussion as you so we will uh post a public hearing on this matter and the benefit of um scheduling it sooner than later um is that uh once the hearing notice hits the newspaper then any new potential application would be under the new bylaw when it when it passes so next question can IA be here I will okay make sure I will ask her if she's not available to have yeah well ver um and then as you're reviewing the a draft warrant article um she's working to um meet all of the goals that you know were set out on the front here to limit the number um in a manner in kind of a stepwise manner the town meeting would vote the first part of the article to reduce the number of cultivators and then um if anyway she'll she'll walk you through that um but then in in the second part of the article um she would um reduce the number again to zero um for the craft cooperatives which is pretty much the and she did tell us that the micro bus was not a separate type of cultivator um so sorry I I digressed okay well we'll find out more from her at the hearing and if I may ask another question it again it's very basic how many cultivation licenses do we currently have is it two and Sanctuary holds both of those or is it just one I think that that's good for us to know there there are two that the board issued yeah well will the first one that's that's the medical license would that still be valid after we get rid of the medical bylaw it's not we're not getting rid of it it's consolidating it right they still would still be allowed to grow in that facility for both medical and recreational correct but it would essentially be the same cultivator under the current licenses okay correct and and then the only detail that would need to go to ballot vote is whether or not um the town wishes to eliminate um uh Craft um grow facility which we don't even really know what that is so okay um okay so uh can I have a vote uh do we need to have a vote okay so we're scheduled okay next item is the uh board discussion request for air sewers service agreement for 254 to 260 Road uh this mainly has to do with land use implications and as you recall we approved uh the project at the site of the existing gas station at the corner of uh Bruce and Air Road and uh it will be a larger site uh it will be um anyway it's approved and it was approved with a septic system they've now come and they would like to connect to the air sewer system which has apparently plenty of capacity and uh they will be entering into an agreement with the board of Selectmen for this and we uh would like to weigh in on whether that's good idea or not we can do this in a couple ways we can do it uh well we should consider a couple things this specific project connection and what that means for other properties in the area should they want to connect to the air sewer um so I will um and this is not a hearing it's just uh a discussion um so I was able to pull up the map that um DPW director in a sent um so looking at the air Parcels um this is uh air air Road intersection with Willow over there and Bruce over here um the development um for the what is the combination of haers and um the convenience store and this so it's essentially this it's all all of those three Parcels this existing station the insurance building in the back and the um open area here that's all being redeveloped as the um new service station um Plaza existing Town sewer in air uh this is the where it ends at the moment um they're proposed an extension down Willow Road and across part of this parcel um the owner over here is um working is paying for part of that extension and then the request is to the Littleton select board to sign a um inter an agreement to allow the extension to of a town sewer for um this combined site here so um it's unfortunate we don't have the actual Town lines that's it that's the line right there which is the line oh where right there that's it yeah I was trying to that's right I was trying to we're looking at the GIS so Chip shots is in air noot right chip shots is there and that's the building behind it okay so the question is should this connection be established would that uh encourage Littleton Property Owners to look to air to provide sewer which would then affect their the development potential of their properties um the campground um you know chip shots um the trailer park Bey on you know the math property the trail the trailer park is nearby so the campground the camp the campground's here um so let's talk about it what do we think right so each parcel each property that would want to connect to air sewer would need to go through the same process as this one town meeting and Air plus um anou between um Littleton select board and town of a so the mou is specific to this parcel anyone that would want to add to it would go through the same process a town meeting plus select board agreement with Littleton to add additional Parcels do we know if they have permission to go who owns Willow Road is that state or is that that's that's a air uh town of Air Road they would need the um mkot permission to cross right there they're they're working on it right now I mean Willow Road is closed that was one of the things I wanted to just make sure that all of the construction on Willow Road is in air none none of that would need to cross into Littleton the only Crossing into Littleton is crossing uh air road which is a state road right yeah that's the only Road impact in in in that case there of which you know clearly they're aware they need State approval also in order to do anything in the road there the the group that's doing the heners is uh very they were great to deal with um and they're very sophisticated so they they they have the capability of pushing you know pushing this on if if they could get permission so um to that point Mr chair um Marin do you know if there are any new players because I think I read somewhere in here about the new owners so are there new owners the new owners was the the energy North group that okay so they are the new owners okay got it they're already working closely with the with the highway people because they're coordinating drainage and Chang the further issue is a water Department hydrology issue when you um Institute uh septic uh you know um sewer systems you remove groundwater uh that would otherwise be percolating into the aquafer that's a good and a bad thing um so but there are implications uh we have a town waterer Source spectacle which isn't too far from here and as I understand it the water department to this point has just said well yeah it's a you know it's something to think about and they haven't had a um we're not looking at a lot of no that that's the thing about the specific proposal number one it's designed with a septic system and was approved with a septic system um the main I I see the main thing as setting a precedent for this part of town um I don't understand why they want to do it honestly I mean if they were just doing it for a few bathrooms I could see if they had like a car wash or something over there that that wouldn't make sense but that's not part of their plan so I'm just confused about why they would want to go through this expense well it's probably not a lot of expense to them somebody else is paying the freight to get it all the way down to there they're just really paying to connect the cross I thought I read that they had to pay for the whole the whole all the way down but they don't have to pay for a seic system yeah but that's only a couple hundred thousand at the most you bringing to sewer lines to to that's okay I mean that's their business but our business is what do we think about it so yeah I mean I have an opinion um just not going to be afraid to start expressing them there is is I you know I'm not in favor of us using other reasons to limit somebody's development like um the septic reasons or the water um you know Wells versus Town water as a reason not to let somebody develop a property private sewer versus Town sewer again that those are artificial constraints on allowing somebody to develop their property and I'm not necessarily in favor of that uh there if there I would be looking for why wouldn't we be approving this because what's the downside of us approving this and if you say it's development the people are entitled to develop those lots anyway uh there and is in the grand scheme is having them connected to a public sewer better than multiple private sewers or or small treatment plant like we're getting every housing development is starting to put in their own treatment plant since there's three of them down by my house uh at this point so it's I I hear your point it's not an artificial constraint though it's an actual constraint um and I this is a particular case where we've already approved it it's already been designed with a septic system and we on that basis we can say okay yeah they want to connect you know to air that's fine and I I don't think we have any authority over this it's it's the Selectmen that are we're we're just asked to weigh in and I do think it's fair to assess um you know the overall hydrology uh issues um and it's I think it's fair to assess um you know how it might affect other land use I mean it just is well the hydrology is is a is a you know is a reason in terms of not you know and I understand the differences in terms of expor and once again this system is so small I don't think but if for instance there was a big H you know it's anyway this this is a particular issue I mean particular at where we're weighing in on this specific proposal but in doing so we need to sort of embrace the whole picture we're opening up a can of worms we're not sure we want to open is the better way to put it yes yeah the potential to and you got to understand zoning is going to drive it more than anything else just because there's sewer there they don't have the zoning to right to do anything and and then the other issue is uh you know we can just ask Selectmen to uh in their decision to emphasize that this is a specific this somehow limit the future use of this well I think you hit on the head because you already have approved septic system you know it's the same approving you know subdivisions and you know you you test it out and then you can do something different in this case um but uh mar maren said that uh air actually has 1.8 million gallons capacity you know whereas we're at 230 or they're dumping it in a river we're not yeah so oh is that what they do oh they they pre-treat it and then they don't have to have a leach field don't know why don't we dump it in Long Lake we'll make the breake why why don't we why don't we pump it to to air have it anyway did you have a well I I think that you're right that we have to think I mean hydrology is one thing but I think we also have to really consider the predent and and if we allow this to go in and there's a precedent for other lots and basically that's a windfall for the the increase in property value is something that the landowners don't at this point have any reason to expect that kind of increase so I don't think that's an issue so what I I'm hearing you're saying is that they already have a septic system approved just let them build a septic system let's not um right so I I found um the letter back from um Mr gck um just a bit confusing on the map there's a yellow part a yellow dashes that says potential future seore services and one of them is tell Lot number 64 which is behind chip shots which is behind chip shots okay and then on the back side they say the intent and authorization from Air toown meeting is to allow connection of the gas station and no further connections from out of town okay so that's where I'm just confused because they're saying their Town only approved this connection and no others but yet the map shows potential future so out of town connection out of town connections have have to be approved by town meeting and they did so in town connections don't have to be approved all okay so that so the most important thing I wanted to ask is that yellow line was that to an air property or okay then then okay that makes sense so I think if that is their intention to um be the good guys and allow this gas station then then um I I think that defines it and we just need to support that if that's what we choose to do what I'm hearing colleague saying is we should just tell air that you know we'd rather they just stay as is with a septic system um I'm wondering if there isn't um a distinction to be made between allowing for commercial use and allowing for residential use is that what I'm hearing or not that's a good distinction we we couch it on the fact that this is a commercial property and allow commercial connection to because that's the only partial right there so if we're worried about future we've only allowed a commercial property that hasn't approved septic system this is better technology we could we could argue it that way that we're allowing a commercial use of this could we I I I hesitate to make that distinction um it's certainly definitely a land use distinction um my hesitation was because we haven't had the opportunity to do any um Outreach and planning studies about what the town would like to see overall in this area we have an approved site it should move forward but what is the town interested in having this you know the whole area look like in in 20 to 50 years um and without that I would hate to provide um sort any idea that it would be okay to just sewer the whole thing to air um well going back to the master plan that is now you know X number of years old there was no intention to you know develop this area in any way from that master plan doesn't mean that in the future master plan there wouldn't be some information in there I you know the other options to do nothing because they have an approved septic and um if that you know the select board wants to allow this um I don't I don't see why um it is a windfall to the owner maybe who knows I don't know what you know that whole windfall he's not going to have a lot of capacity as it is he's getting Talent s instead of building a septic system of his own I still like Mar's idea if we're if we're going to go down this road let's go down very slowly and say this is a commercial rennovation from a commercial standpoint will allow we we see no problem with this and just weigh in that way and leave it as a commercial and I would point out a commercial property with an previously approved with an approved septic system yes and send it to the selectman that way that we have no problem if a commercial developer on the heir Littleton line wants to tie in their business there we're okay with that just leave it at that so we're not addressing the residential which is Sil in terms of you know so I agree in terms of the O you know the future Master planning the the main thing in this area of town is the trailer park which is an incredible resource for affordable housing that we get no you know there's not not in the Shi it's not you know we we get no credit for that and yet how many you know there's 100 is 110 units un very valuable to very valuable if bringing who were there from Air you know made that you know anyway that's why planning is you know part of the deal but anyway so we okay but I I still think you need to separate the discussion uh there because by right what can they build at the trailer park it doesn't have to be trailers oh no no no so you can't you can't assume you know that you're no I I guess I guess I'm saying that just from a planning point of view there are vital planning interests in that part of town it's not just the mat's field and you know chip shots that's all um so what did we come up with a split board okay I um we're not enthusiastic but um given that it's a well I guess I would say it's a previously uh an approved project with a approved septic we don't understand the purpose of connecting to Air and we are hesitant about opening um that way of uh developing property in that part of town is there anyone here this evening from the project from the happer project no no okay good no this presentation came this request came from the town of a okay um the other um my only recommendation well select board knows this already is just to um rely also rely on input from um lwd on on the issue as the water and sewer um boards well departments okay okay um next public hearing 95 Taylor Street Scenic Road review Street three removal strawberry farms okay so um read the hearing notice for the scenic Road review um town of Littleton planning board and tree Warden Will Follow The Joint public hearing would you like our new clerk to read it can read it from there you were doing an excellent job so I'm I'm okay that I don't feel infringed upon yeah you should just so proud of myself for finding it and putting it up Littleton planning board and tree Warden will hold a joint public hearing on Thursday June 13th 2024 at 700 p.m in room 103 of the shadik street Town Offices to consider a Scenic Road review in accordance with Mass General Law chapter 40 section 50 c 15 C and the code of the town of Littleton Scenic Road by law chapter 143 property location is strawberry farms definitive subdivision at 95 Taylor Street map u40 parcel 8 applicant and owner seal Harbor's company LLC and viena t fryberg uh property owner seeking review under the scenic Road bylaw to allow removal up to three Street trees to allow access for and construction of a new definitive subdivision goes on uh to tell you where you can find uh the plans and um where you can provide C [Applause] do we have seal Harbor here you want we have the tree Warden here and the tree Warden and well great I didn't know we had a tree Warden and it's nice to have your attendance thank you and from the tree Warden we do have a letter that came in today today [Applause] [Music] so would you like to speak um just to summarize the letter for us okay and intro introduce yourself so hello my name is Steven Whit uh tree Wen for the town of Littleton uh also the highway superintendent so I was asked to review uh the condition of the trees three trees which are at 95 Taylor Street and if the board plan board does approve for the development they are requested that they may possibly have to remove the trees so I took some pictures and I gave you these that identified um two apple trees and one cherry tree the trees in that area the condition of these trees are in disarray they haven't been CED for in years it doesn't look like they've been pruned wounded or taken care of um in some of the pictures that you have in the first set the apples you can see this a little bit of Decay and some areas that that trees a little rough in my opinion uh the Aesthetics as it goes these three trees uh aren't designed in the area as good trees for the street lining uh they may have held a good uh portion for flow fling the fruit trees will then often attract other animals but also good for pollinators but uh in this condition I wouldn't object to the removal if as long as there is a replacement and the value that's placed on it I've consulted with the shade tree committee which we talk with and try to handle all of the aspects of handling Street trees so they have helped me to try to state that in this letter here you'll see for any removal of a tree under a 6 in caliper it replaces one shade tree no smaller than 3 to 3 and2 in so that because these are mature trees and it takes a long time to get mature trees that we're looking at that as a value um in this it just does say state that the shade tree committee has tried to develop tree guidelines and and come with certain spec species trees that we can help bring back to the community and to the area so I look at that recommendations for the replacement value if the trees aren't going to be replaced in that Street area or if we can't decide a location that's good because the development seems to be more of a u private way we also placed in there a recommend that a cost value could be reached that could be placed into a fund that could be put into the highway department that we can utilize to replace other trees in other neglected areas so that would be my recommendation in that section there if anybody has any questions there's no stone walls there just trees no stone walls just trees tail the street running from in that area has a few from the depot trees that run in that area but it seems to be ended right at 95 then there's a very large open area until it gets around the bend of Taylor Street so that's why I was suggesting that you know we can hold on to some funds to extend it if this plan goes through I'm sure they're going to have a entrance area and something and I'm sure they're going to have a plan to add trees into their development for Aesthetics and this would be a good way for the community to utilize other funds or get things in other areas that were not funded for Mr chair in the old days we used to have funds set aside for sidewalks and for shade trees we always collected um mitigation funds for those and gave them to the town so this is just in keeping with how we are used to do things I don't think we we don't have any funds available any more right have we spent all the shade tree money we had and all the sidewalk shade tree currently is getting uh small amount of money that they put and we tend to get uh right now I do believe it's about $5,000 annually that they spend on the planting of the trees I've just purchased uh six trees that'll be going up that will be planted uh they're also working on certain setback trees and certain things to work with the highway department in the community to make sure that these are placed in areas because as we know we're constantly modifying the roads the widths sidewalks the bike Lanes the paths everything that we need so the trees are something that you know we have to always look at and take on the cost and the care the town also cares for all the trees pruning them removing them uh making sure that it's going but you know that cost for planting um at many times is not there so so if we could get you some money it would be well appreciated okay you find a way to utilize it well I um did you talk talk with Rick Finley I assume or because I I think he's the one who specifies the the red sunset maple which oh the red sunset maple was one that um so in trying to get an idea of a cost of a tree the red sunset maple is one that we've used just recently and um I been look at it or we're purchasing it to place it around the areas okay um the the dollar amount that came up was from kcos uh where we purchased trees and it's one of the local areas that if we do do a wholesale purchase they do have a warranty on the trees some of the other ones that we purchase do not and your number is times two is that reflects the planting that would would reflect the planting or as it's described as you know for the caliper for 6 in you're getting a one for one anything from the 12 inch you're asking for a two for one so the cost of the cost of the tree would be $650 times that by two if it has to do the installation water and Care anything else that's added to it so I guess my next question is what is your feeling about how many you know if all three of the existing fruit trees were removed if all three were removed I think that because of the size and the caliper the dbh would recommend five trees purchased okay so five to replace the times 1300 okay just one correction yeah I'm sorry forgive me Mark Gallagher from seel Harbor we only anticipate taking down two of the trees the third tree the only reason I put it there is God forbid a truck backs into it or we dig through the root ball by accident and it ends up you know something perishing I just didn't want have to come back before you guys for one additional tree so I put three trees on there with the expectation of only having to take down two the one is an Apple the Apple the Apple which is one of the larger caliber trees um is probably in the it's probably in the best condition out of by the three and it's actually out of our way but like I said I just wanted to make sure I covered my bases and I didn't have to come back at a later point in time and say well you know something happened to it now you know I need to and we are totally in favor of making the donation to whoever you guys the highway department Highway Department um we're uh I've worked with Steve and I worked with the uh sh Tre committee as well um and as a developer we have no problem with the donations um so then the question is came out um what do we think guys who wants to speak on this to trees at 1,300 whatever it is 1,300 bucks a tree well because you had mentioned five trees oh no no no so that would be the replacement so the size it it's it's kind of spelled out that the size caliper yeah because of the caliper so the 6in one would be a one for one tree anything above the 6 in the 6 to 12 in so there was uh one tree at 12 in One Tree at nine and one at six so um if the 12in tree is removed then that would be a replacement of two trees if the 9in tree is removed that would be a replacement of two trees because we are purchasing a 3 in to 3 and 1/2 in caliber so and then one is 6 in if that's remove so we're talking about three or four tree Replacements yeah comments just leave it up to him to get us a number if it's four well we I think we you know this is a hearing I think we um should say is it for I do believe so you can look at the development the development is approved and you know at the later date when they start and they need the access point which is going to be the drive then they would be looking at the removal once they then plan and set the removal date then this action would take place that they would then have to make the restitution compensation we would then place it into a revolving fund or set up an account that states that that that money is then placed um so that it can be spent for so we're not necessarily voting on a specific amount specific amount right now voting on this methodology of okay okay any comments so my only comment or question Steve so um thank you for being here this evening and thank you very much for working with the shade tree committee how did that come about Were You Who asked you to become involved um I guess uh my position with the highway department as superintendent one of the roles is the tree Warden I'm Mass qualified tree Warden um and then I do the inspections of hazardous trees uh taking care of all the street trees in town the shade tree committee is the group of the Town residents in the organizations that then uh look at some trying to get bylaws pass or take recommendations from residents on where we're going to do um a lot of the work that they did was that the common work with the you know with Rick Finley and the identification of the asri so well I'm just thrilled that you're here this evening because I had quite a few questions about this so you've answered my questions and this looks like a very good plan so um I look forward to seeing you at Future projects where um public trees are poor guy yeah I'll be so so thank you so um what would be the appropriate uh way of disposing of this uh matter in terms of a vote um um I would recommend you turn to the draft decision um and then just insert reference um tree warden's lettered June 13 2024 that outlines the replacement criteria okay so before we do that we do need to hear from the applicant and anyone else in the that is an opinion good evening Mark Gallagher from seal Harbor development um I'm here on behalf of the company and discuss with you guys about the trees okay and we've already apparently had the discussion and you've put in your uh your view um okay anything else that you need that you would like to add to the hearing on the development standpoint no as a personal resident I would be slightly concerned about a 30 in pine tree that's in my front yard that could be leaning to the left what is the replacement value of a you know 30 to 45 in street tree that's leaning towards my house and it's a pine which will eventually fall but it still constitutes you know I live up on Oak Hill so that that's a that's one of the scenic roads right so that's a Scenic Road so technically if I that tree you know if I ever said someday which I won't I want to take it down as an example what is the replacement value of a 30in pine you know when you measure it by the caliber as a developer I have no problem with this as a personal resident if you came to me and said it's going to be $10,000 plus the four grand to take down with a crane I'd probably be less than pleased I I don't want to wait into this um I'm just but I do know I do know that as a homeowner it's much different than as as a developer that's what I'm saying you know I'm I'm not saying I have extra funds as a developer but my only point is if you if I told my went home and told my wife that I had to put $10,000 into a tree fund yeah for and then we had to take down the tree on top of it I I don't think that's what's happened in Littleton I you know I think there's a difference in this you're not developing your front yard your front yard has a tree that might be in danger I'm nothing we can do about that right but it's it but it all falls under this that's one of the de conversations I had with the shade tree committee as a developer you know it's one thing as a personal resident who lives here in Littleton no you're missing the distinction is you have to take the trees out to put the road in you do not have to take that 30in tree if that 30-in tree falls down the town is probably going to Bear the brunt of taking care of it because it's probably on Town land yeah yeah and it's going to fall over and they have to get rid of it it's not going to cost you two cents all I'm trying to say is it's it's an entire they're two differenta two different scenarios so I'm I'm doing work currently in Newton where they've instituted a tree by law that doesn't just look at the trees but it looks at the root systems so you actually have to map the root systems even if they extend onto another person's property wow we that's not thank God we totally support uh making the donation to the tree uh to the highway department and actually Steve's been awesome to work with um he's very communicative and I have nothing great but great things to say great so I'll I'll make a motion that we approve this subject to one more thing anyone else okay subject to the final determination of which trees come down and the cost Associated by the sh where the tree Warden tree Warden yeah I I drafted something while I was sitting here I'll just run it by developer so I added at the end of the decision where it said the sketch plan developer shall donate to the town via Highway Department at the rates identified by the tree Ward via letter to the planning board dated June 13 2024 you guys don't need me anymore how thank you clerked I clerked so so we have a motion do we have a second I'll second that uh all in favor I thank you thank you thank thank you so much I have one quick question mark Gallagher I thought your name was I I'm the son can't you see the he lives down at 307 hardwood and I live at 16e both wait a minute have has it been that long that I have already forgotten who mark C is I'm sorry I just had to ask oh it's okay there's two of us here all right okay next item is thank you um the the the vote on the definitive subdivision and storm rer permit strawberry farms we at the previous meeting voted on this can you give us the status of what we're doing tonight on this we we are review we we have had a chance to review the full decision with conditions mhm right at the last meeting um the board did vote 5 to Zer to approve the definitive subdivision with a um vote at a future meeting on the on the final conditions um so now the conditions are all drafted and reviewed ready for your um final any updates and and a vote do we have any darl of course uh not be involved in this but are there any uh comments on the final uh decision with conditions I have three comments when you're ready go ahead so on condition number one um I was just curious um why the water department was called out well the exception of separating pars to be needed to the Littleton water department is that y um excellent question uh the Water Department um did reach out that they're interested in owning any of the Open Water Area um even in this subdivision because it backs up to um some of their additional property okay all right can we hear from the developers about that um we had conversations with the water district at the Inception of our coming in front of you uh many many months ago um after you voted for the subdivision approval they have indicated they would like to have us give them uh a portion of it I believe the way Marin has written the decision it will not affect the subdivision they have to provide us with a plan um they've spoken about the scope of the existing well and it's a requirement that they have protected area around the well which we support um we're waiting for them to come back and give us a definitive area um that we would then Lop off if you will and deed to them as an abut okay so we we're in support of it it just we're waiting you need a definition well we needed yeah they gave us an aerial um a Google map and it doesn't it doesn't interfere in any way shape or form and the decision is written in such a way that does not Prejudice your subdivision exactly so we can do it as soon as they're ready um the the area that they want is essentially underwater yeah so okay it has no value to us you had another thank you my second question on is on condition number six um toward the end it says the access roadway is not able to be accepted as a town owned public way unless and until it is brought up to the current subdivision standards and a vote of town meeting approves such acceptance I think we had discussed the fact that this was to be a private way and so I would request that we stop the sentence right afterward it says and is not able to be accepted as a town-owned public way period I don't think there should be any unless just simply because Marin um 20 years down the road when the homeowners asked how do we make this a public way that's how they make it a public way um there's no nothing that we can include in um the definitive subdivision that takes away that right for them to update it and so they would have to modify the build the subdivision standards coming it was just um a way to signal to the Future homeowners if that's the process that they would have to go through okay and I would would you want to see something like where it says brought up to current subdivision standards by the homeowners or by the owners or something to clear who that there's no Town responsibility bring that up to code up to standard I like that change thank you if we can make that change you have one more yes so under uh condition number seven um it talks about the homeowner association or homeowner trust if the property is conveyed um because I thought that the plan was to to convey it to the homeowners association I was just curious about the word if and then because there will be an HOA um don't we also need other guidelines to be in place if there's an HOA I thought there was something else that might have been missing I think there's going to be an HOA there an HOA there is the long-term um storm water management which which definitely referred to you know the in the storm water part of this right um in a maintenance contract but I think this allows for um well hasn't there always been an HOA though anytime there's well for instance I'm thinking of Great Farm I mean the developer still you know maintains yeah there's no homeown Association on Earth that's a public way if he ever builds it um a few years ago um the DPW director um started asking for HOAs to take care of the drainage um for subdivisions um so that's that's the direction you know while this is moving even further with with HOA taking over that's correct maintenance of all of the drainage Town wants no responsibility so you were you were focused on the if is but that that's that allows for the fact that the developer would still be responsible for but his intention is to I would put when when when yes okay I think that's a simple thank you change okay anything else no anyone else thank you um do we need to vote again um yes uh may I have a motion to to uh vote on the Consolidated decision definitive subdivision decision storm modit management permit decision for strawberry farms I make a motion that we approve the amended yeah storm water management uh subdivision conditions of approval has presented do I hear a second second all those in favor I I thank you thank you thank you work good luck thank you um the next is um a similar housekeeping for the uh 550 and 584 King Street uh King Street Commons amend the master plan development aquafer Water Resource District and sidewalk curb cut special permit that's um we had uh voted once again on approving it uh at the time um and I abstained because she hadn't had a chance to look at the conditions um thank you have you had I have yes okay um So based on a conversation that um the Housing Trust had um they raised concerns about when and where the 40 senior affordable units will be built and um you know separately they request a meeting with um lupoy company to to discuss you know where and why or why not clustered together so I think that's good for them to hear that directly and have that discussion so my comment as to a question or excuse me as to a condition change is um under condition number four that we actually identify the phase number of when the senior units will be built because I know that in the meeting minutes I believe he said that they would be built probably around phase three and so if you take a look at what we have in the conditions for that um that's where the phasing chart is yeah well we we had they they provided this they provided uh or here's the P chart that they provided I mean basically they gave us these graphical representations that were then incorporated into the decision um correct and our discussion centered around the fact that um they were doing um the same number of units if you will just kind of of moving the one and two bedrooms around and then we had the question asked of so when will the senior units be built and they verbalized they would be in phase three but nowhere is it written that it's phase three and what I'm asking is can we can we put that in writing that I think so because basically the the residential phases are one and three there are there is residentials part is the four five and six but that and two but those are the what they referred to as the luxury units or whatever I don't think we can put it in there because the original assertion was that the the senior housing was going to be here well the the the conditions allow for that right um so we can't delegate where it's going to be until we know well we could say we could say that they can't put them somewhere else unless phase three is I mean I guess my point is phase three is and phase three is 2027 to 2029 right so it's it's by by tagging phase three we're pretty much saying we're pretty much saying well you have to you know you have to it's sort of meaningless because phase three is going to be the end of the the the multif family part of the the project well my big concern is if it is going to be offsite that it just keeps kind of getting delayed that's that's a point and you know we we had the broader discussion last time about how important it was to get this done and so that's my input is I would like to see it on paper that there's a condition that they need to work on it and that it doesn't get you know kicked down the road right um the the building permits at some point would stop issuing if they weren't at an equivalent number at at 10% of affordable units no she's talking senior this is not affordable so it is it is the the way their decisions rented so we do have that backed up but um and just to make sure I understand um so you'd like it no later than phase three could be earlier right exactly yeah no later than if you're looking to add that I would add it just as a sentence um after the whole list of phasing corre just identify and no later than phase three that and that's a good point because they could keep on with the phases and not have accomplished the units because there's still units in phase four and phas well except those are you know SW here yeah well um and maybe not suited for elderly because they'll be above you know in the second floor um whatever is there anything else what do you think about that comment Bartlett well I I thought that the agreement was that as they build each building the large buildings that 10% of them were going to be affordable and it was not clear to me how the 40 were going to be divided whether they were all going to be together or they were going to be in different buildings I never did understand what the resolution was on that I don't think there is a I don't think there is cu the thought was always to put them here well that was an idea at the beginning but it was never settled well I think well we never settled it the town and when you get the site plans then that's exactly I think that but I mean I think the goal it's a good goal to have these 40 senior housing units clustered that's that's a good goal um you know I think their intention is to do them offsite uh the one thing I do want to be explicit it about is that as the decisions uh written if they build them offsite they still have the right to build 8004 units on so in other words Am I Wrong add to not add to the total number of units it does not add to the total okay fine so they would build fewer units um you know the other thing is we they've talked to us about coming back about for sales units about the the the mill correct and my understanding correct me if I'm wrong they're talking about this summer coming back to talk about four sale units coming to the mill if I'm not mistaken yeah I haven't heard from I well I think the last conversation we all had with them was that they were hoping to come back this summer and maybe we'll see them before for well and we just heard if George is correct that the sewer operation is put off for 6 months longer than what we even at the last meeting were thinking about but whatever said two years yeah um so what's the disposition of that conditions um so I I think I saw a lot of this um so add um a sentence that says um that phasing for the senior affordable units will be no later than phase three will be constructed no later than can you ask them to come in if they have if they want to come in and talk to us about for sale units Senor units offsite maybe we can have that discussion this summer while we're in the middle we're not that busy see if they want to come in well the anything about an off-site discussion would include would in my opinion need to include the select board because it's really this place yeah their their decision it's assuming that the town is contributing right right so why don't you see if they want to um yeah I'll I'll ask the question about the timing for that discussion ask so you're talking about adding that as like bullet G in eight um is that no it's on page 10 of the decision is that what you're thinking Mar yep so I was thinking after the listing of um the uh phase after phase seven just at a sentence yep I I'm good with that okay because Section 8 or with its f subsections is outlining all the parameters I didn't know if you is g g under that are you looking at exhibit a it's after it's after the table after the table to 10% I mean you could you could you could do it that way um and then see I I tend to think about it the way Anna did because to have it part of the phasing was was the request I think that's fine um so any more any other comment I I found that the conditions in the decision followed the information that what had been presented to us at the last meeting um yeah I appreciate the additional time uh mayck and Anna do a good job I mean Ricky and Min excuse me an Ricky and Min do a good job too whatever all right may I have a motion to uh approve the um the king the 550 King Street amended master plan special permit and amended acor and Water Resource District special permit so moved I have a second second uh all in favor I I okay now guess what we're done 805 um Daryl this was a light meeting um and uh may I have a motion to um this meeting I'll make a motion we adjourn second all in favor all right motion passes let's turn off the