I think that's how you pronounce it um uh we're I we're on the air yeah okay that they're not ready to go forward I'm going to voice no I know that we're on the air okay all right I hereby call to order the Zoning Board of adjustment for regular meeting on April 2nd 2024 adequate notice of this meeting SL hearing has been provided by posting a copy of the public meeting hearing dates on the municipal bulletin board and website by sending a copy to the echo Sentinel and Courier News newspapers and by fing a copy with the municipal clerk standard board procedures any than you hearing conducted by the board is a quasi judicial proceeding any questions or comments must be limited to issues that are relevant to what the board May legally consider in reaching a decision and decorum appropriate to judicial hearing must be maintained at all times meeting cut off announcement is made that as a matter of procedure it is the intention of the Zoning Board of adjustment not to continue any any matter past 10:30 p.m. at any regular or special meeting hearing of the board unless a motion is passed by the members then present to extend the meeting SL hearing to a later specified cutoff time electronic devices all in attendance are asked and requested to move mute their cell phones or any electronic devices as to not interrupt the proceeding pledge of Alle Tom would you lead us please ALG to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible liberty and justice for all thank you okay we call yes Mr arono is absent Miss Brennan is excused this evening Mr ganakas is excused this evening he said uh Mr R said I'm on my way I'll be there in about to 10 minutes okay then we'll we'll note to for the record when he arrives um Mr Flatley is currently absent Mr Rosenberg here Mr Watts here M Collins here Vice chairman grov here and chairman gret here chairman we have a problem thank you now we um have a uh meeting minutes for March 19th 2024 uh I I think your uh Vice chairman grof has some uh uh changes to those minutes or recommendations I believe the chairman G uh arrived uh after we had started that date yes and I don't know the time of his arrival okay so that's why you open the meeting okay yes sir all right any other changes or corrections to the minutes no okay do I have a motion to move the uh to accept the minutes as as uh uh noted so moved do I hear second second all in favor I do I okay good all right if I can vote I wasn't here you weren't here no well if you weren't here don't say I he abstains oh he abstains right uh okay we have resolutions we have the Michael Riley uh Riley application 23-13 Z and uh we have a newer version of that and was uh could you explain uh Mr attorney what are new version entails I think missen actually had a few comments TOS from her um okay there were just some minor uh comments or minor somewhat typos I can just go through them the first is on um page two and in the the third whereas paragraph uh the last sentence it said southernly sidey yard it should say Northerly um this is uh says whereas the the be the paragraph begins whereas the property is a regular shape but significantly undersized lot oh okay at the LA the bottom of that paragraph oh it said property southernly it should be Northerly that's my bad right we we they she sent out a corrected version oh you have that we have a corrected version okay okay then I then that's so so we don't need to go over it we do have the corrected version I do I I was under the impression you you didn't no no no I was just saying that there was a corrected version set out the one the one that I the one that I emailed out was the previous version the hard copy that everyone has in front of them okay is the okay so I just wanted to note the difference so I knew I was looking at the right one okay there you have it okay yeah this is the thank youz sure okay so uh do I hear any other Corrections or changes or comments on that no okay do I hear a motion to accept the minutes of the not the minute the I'm sorry to to uh resolution to move the resolution of Michael Riley 87 lock Boulevard charlette New Jersey block 11106 L 5 application number 23-13 Z and for clarification voting members that are eligible to vote vote on this resol resolution are Mr arono Vice chairman grov and chairman gett okay okay one of those people please move it I'll make that motion I will second okay well call please Mr Rono yes Vice chairman grot yes chairman GRE yes Moine carries okay very good another one down all right now we have the next uh uh resolution for the missionary Servants of the Most Holy Trinity at 1050 lill Road Sterling New Jersey block 14101 lot 63 application number 23-14 Z hearing dates were March 5th 2024 board action was March 5th 2024 and our memorization is today April 2nd 2024 um do I yeah okay it looks like almost everybody is eligible here yeah we have um Mr Rosenberg Mr Rono Vice chairman grov and chairman grat yes can I hear a motion to move uh said uh resolution great discussion yes I'm sorry Chang oh changes I'm sorry yes uh what page page three item number four okay uh where the statement talks about according to Father Molina there will be 5 to seven burial services per year with no funerals allowed on Sunday to avoid conflict with mass it's also pursuant to Catholic tradition and I believe he did say that in uh Open Session okay where do you want to add that at the last uh somewhere at the end of the mass first sentence yeah to avoid conflict with mass and pursuant to Catholic tradition okay okay well I'm glad that you're a good Catholic well I will point out that uh Alex from my office I think he covered that meeting um is Jewish so I guess he didn't catch that well maybe it's the tradition too um all right noting that change any other changes or Corrections okay uh now do I hear a motion to uh to move the resolution as corrected I'll move as amended second second okay well call please Mr Ron yes Vice chairman gr yes Mr Rosenberg yes yes yay another way down all right now we have the first application up is a bulk variance for Block 10515 lot 8.01 in zone r-5 known as 24 metler Place application number 23-15 Z sterling flowers LLC applicant proposes to construct an addition and expand the driveway of a single family residence is the applicant present yes you can come up here and sit you can bring a a witness up here with you chairman Mr chairman we want to make the announcement about carrying the about the well because I don't know if anybody from the okay all right fine so we can do that now right okay so I guess I'll take it from there Mr chairman so yes uh the other application that was on scheduled for this evening draon Ron LLC that's block 12302 lot 11 in the M Zone also known by the address of 1893 LGH Hill Road that is going to be carried to the board's April 16th 2024 meeting with no further notice being required um just for the record I did review the notice that they had submitted for this evening I found both the content and timeliness of service of such notice to be sufficient it was mailed to owners of properties within 200t of the subject property on March 22nd 2024 and also published in the Echo Sentinel on March 21st 2024 both more than 10 days in advance of tonight's hearing and thus by this voice announcement they no no longer need to provide notice because we're by virtue of this voice announcement we are carrying it to the like I said the April 16th 2024 meeting so uh folks folks in the back um are you guys here for the uh the Sterling flowers application or for the Don Ron application Sterling flowers okay just making sure that you're not spending time there if you don't need to be could you put that uh over there and angle it and so the audience can see like put it over there and just angle it this way cuz no no out on the other side of the thing there and angle it more like this yes that's good now can everybody see it on the board because that way the audience can still come up and see it if they want is it the same thing we have Mr chairman while they're getting situated I'll just point out also for this particular case right Sterling flow LLC I did review the notice found both the content and timeliness of surface of that not to be sufficient it was sent to owners of properties within 200 ft of the subject property on March 15 2024 and also published in the daily record on March 18th 2024 both more than 10 days in advance of tonight's hearing and thus in my legal opinion the board is jurisdiction over this case so that's my Spiel thank you and uh how many people are you going to have testify just one just one okay uh can we swear in your witness and our expert he is an expert or what is he he is okay can we swear them both okay Liz there you go all right to both of you swear or affirm that the testimony you're about to provide will be the truth the whole truth nothing about the truth so hope you got I do great thank you very much would you like to give us a little overview of what you're doing if I could yes uh my name is John Sullivan I'm an attorney with the offices of vasta and Sullivan and I'm representing the applicant the property is located at 24 metler place and it's located in the R5 zoning District this is an interior lock with front to John met place and it's currently improved with a single family dwelling um the house it's the original house that was there was very dilapidated and the applicant had applied to the uh town for a zoning permit and that was issued to allow him to construct a new single family dwelling which they've done yes um after all was said and done and they had the as built prepared they realized that they were over on the uh the overall lot coverage for the property by roughly 630 Square ft um and that is what brings us before the board tonight is for that particular bulk variance um I believe your planner also identified an additional um nonconformity from Let Me Maybe I'll put it this way the existing house was non-conforming in a lot of respects and the zoning permit allowed us to rebuild the house on the same foundation so everything was in order with the exception of the lock coverage your planner had identified a a very di Minimus um condition the front porch overhang the roof on the front porch the overhang is approximately 8 in further into the front yard set back um than what would I guess be permitted from what was from what the the first variants gave them correct okay so um that is our situation we have submitted in terms of plans um the ad built survey prepared by eka Associates dated September 12th of 2023 uh we also submitted for purposes of comparison the earlier survey um prior to the Reconstruction of the home that was prepared by Parker engineering dated August 10th 2020 and we also submitted some um area photographs um we have Thomas Ellenberg Ellenberger um as our he is a licensed architect uh he's also an employee of a company of City so if I would Mr Ellenberg i' ask you to State your nameif my name Thomas elenberger architect um graduate Temple University I've been licensed to practice uh architecture in St Jersey for 22 years um my license is a good standing and once prior this year and once prior last year thank you we declare you uh an expert thank you qualified and Mr Ellenberger you're um you're familiar with the uh the site in the area and uh the property is currently improved with a single family dwelling single family dwelling two and a half story res single family res um consist of three bedrooms bedom two and half structure Family actually the end result and is there a basement there's no basement everything cross space I believe the there's a portion of very old bement in the original building which wasap all and uh any other improvements on the property uh there was a detached garage which was um repaired and refinished in the same size was um it is it's a one car garage a little bit storage but there's no access and you indicated that house is Curr constructed and improvements themselves I mention overh that's essentially [Applause] fopr one section actually it's the same footprint um in the rear of the uh house the existing house there was one section that was notched but there was a one story there but not two stories and now it's two stories but the footprint St on and uh you installed a um a driveway with a um parking area and a correct be to say that the parking area turn around is what kind of d and how did you learn on that that this project had exceeded the lck coverage um well a couple well the first the first item that u i I discovered during the process was um when the after the work was complete prior to issuing the CFO we had to get an as survey doing so that's when I check the bulk variances or bulk requirements and um I inadvertently assumed that the Zone Z just a few years ago long the owner Str flowers owns the property next store renovation there was Zone B at that time so I made the dumb mistake of thinking that right next door it would still be Zone and I follow the guelin assist I got that using wrong Zone in doing so the as survey confirmed that the lock cover and um we are asking the board to um consider allowing the driveway with parking area and turn around to remain that built yes and uh so there's a one car garage so there's one parking space within that garage and the the parking area which essentially sits between the garage and the the rear of the home manys two and that allows to vehicles on the site stack and that was my next question one of the reasons for that parking area was to avoid parking on the street and could you just discuss briefly the RO of place and street parking canect traffic metler is a 4ot right away but the actual WID pav on the uh east side of the property it's a little over 18t and as you head to the west side of the property down and it actually the place does vary you know to to the east it actually is even narrower at that point but then gets wider but in front of this piece of property right around 17 and if uh if you were using on Park on street parking uh you believe that would interfere with two traffic on Street it would make it very and possible impeding emergency vehicles yes and then um would you explain the re for the turn around and how that would sure um so having the ability to not Cars was obviously process um the whether obviously the driveway is very U long so for the three cars one in the garage and the two on the side any of which can back up to that turn around I'm sorry to interrupt could you mind pulling the microphone a little closer yeah I just got a note from somebody in the public at home watching that the to hear thank you the driveway being um very long to from the street to the garage and you have one car in the garage and then two uh parking spots all three vehicles obviously not the same time but all three vehicles would be able to use that small turnaround space on the uh the side of the property to back into and then be able to pull out the driveway without backing down the entire driveway Mr elenberg I'm sorry to interrupt is the light on your microphone on the light is on oh it is okay all right hello hello I can bring over you want a second mic too yeah why don't you give a second mic to hello yeah you can hear my voice being projected but I don't think you can hear yours hear that you can't hear that no very slight why don't you move that over to the attorney and then you can use the handheld if you want you can get up and show show us what you're talking about sure and as you're approaching the uh easel is that no no keep going keep going I'm not stopping you is that an exhibit or did the board receive that ahead of time that this is exactly this survey that you have from eka just blown up to a more visible scale well we mark it anyway we can mark it as okay all right so we'll call this exhibit A1 enlarged that's the old way survey and could you give me the date on that too please there's no title block or anything it's the same no title block yeah I I just blew it up okay so we'll just dat it today then yeah so enlarge as buil yep [Applause] go so uh space for two cars and to be honest with you small cars um I tested this out a couple times in a couple of my vehicles and it is tight so two cars um and a single car here all of three of the vehicles would be able to reach this turnaround back into it and be able to pull forward out of the driveway um that what this does is avoid backing down close to the house down the long driveway um this and like I said I tested it with my vehicle uh my wife's vehicle and um it's not very generous it's it's actually um in order to accomplish that turnaround it it's uh it would be nicer to be bigger to be larger but it's uh but it does work for the three cars in turnaround okay and we had submitted with the application um did you pull that mic closer to you it's even work oh no does that does it work it should no yeah it works yeah it's just not as loud they really intimately and we had submitted um as part of the uh the submission package for photographs and can you briefly just describe to the board what each of those photographs detects sure so uh are do you have them in the same order that we had I don't know if there's okay so perhaps uh there's a a street view looking uh westbound the uh property in or the house and question is on the right hand side um this is looking let me just see this is the this is further um is westbound also but further back closer to planfield Avenue and you can see obviously there's uh cars on the road but you can see how narrow As you move through metler place the road Narrows and widens uh this next view is of the uh newly constructed house uh looking towards the property to the West which is 26 metler um you're seeing the rip wrap Stone that's at the curb line well no curb but at the uh roadway line and the last image that we're looking at is the original uh house before any improvements and uh that in that last photograph does show a garage but uh not much of a driveway correct correct Mr Ellenberg did you take these photographs uh I did not okay who who took the photographs and what were they taken um Joan the photograph so owner owner took all of them yeah okay and that's your testimony Mr Elber the owner took the pictures yes okay sorry all good all good do they uh do the pictures accurately depict um what was there before and what is there now yes thank you um I wanted to direct you to miss le le Lan Lany L's report which is dated March 26th and in particular um on the last page planning review and comments uh item number three with regard to screening of the hbac equipment is that something the applicant would be willing to address sure take that as a stipulation thank you yes thank you and then on the table when we got here was an email from the board engineer van Clee engineering and would you just uh quickly review that and I believe items 3 A and B are a couple of suggested conditions are we able to comply with those yeah absolutely yes take that as further stipulations thank you now what what numbers were they three and four you said 3 3 A and B okay just wanted to double check Qui yeah item a says all disturbance shall be restored and stabilized with top soil seed and straw mulch okay and item 3B that existing drainage patterns will be maintained post construction okay thank you and I think that's all I have for uh Mr Elber okay Liz do you have any questions um just one clarification is it's um as was indicated we had highlighted a front yard variance uh in our letter and what the variance really is is the the difference between what was existing which was to the front porch which was like 16 and what has been built is is really nothing it's very di Minimus but why we thought that they should at least ask for the variance is because you've actually they've built up right and so the Varian they've increased it in they've in they haven't they haven't come I mean they've come closer a smidge and I would not even have raised it but if you see that it used to be a two-story home now it's a two and a half story home right so that's the half that's what the okay that's really what the front yard variance was about okay all right any questions from the board members go ahead um were you the architect on the original application I was not um so was it the original architect or did they have a planner because you you opened with you inadvertently assumed that it was a b Zone I I got into the project I got into the project late so um the owner um hold the mic CL the owner also um constructed a house right next door and somewhere around 8 years ago I don't know the exact date but the zones that area was re was rezoned um so isn't it a matter of just like normal procedure when you're looking at a property you just look up the zone and you get first of all you apply for a a construction permit right correct get denied that's how you get to here um well we the constru no we actually got the permit we were not denied we it became an ISS issue yeah building yeah I thought this was an application that was already before this board a few years ago that was actually the um the property next door 26 Bor right so what happened here was a zoning permit was issued that allowed reconstruction of the home on the existing Foundation okay so this property was never before this board not to my knowledge correct okay or recently for the last round of construction I Can Say Never I mean it's a long time but right okay that's all I really wanted to know I was like I I remember Met's replace I remember yeah that was the other one I also it was also there was a French porch issue with that application that's from a long time ago I remember that where that had an overhang also that created a need for a variance for the front yard okay that's I just wanted to see where this is coming from then the real question I think I want to ask in you're professional opinion that offset or jog whatever we call that in the driveway configuration um you you mentioned that it's not convenient it's inconvenient it's not it's not roomy it's not generous well it's not generous as a turn your opinion do you think that the residents there will will maybe not use that because of the inconvenience should it be have a different construction like should that backup spot be moved to the the big parking space area so that they can back straight up into it instead of on that jog or offset well I think I well I guess it's possible but I think by keeping them separate allows you know this safe parking of two cars and then the vehicle in the garage free of those two cars can back out you know back into that space and use it um I guess that's certainly possible but you know it seems to me like people will avoid that and back out and then maybe park a car where that it's not large enough it's not big enough no no I mean as a matter of fact with a um like a mediumsized car when I pulled into it from one of those parking spots I pulled to the edge of the pavement I had to do it in two cuts to get around the house okay you know it's so it's tight that's why I'm asking the question if it's going to be useless anyway well I don't think it's useless because it's certainly much better than backing down the driveway in the dark so okay thank you mhm yes um I I know you you testified that the original house there really wasn't much of a driveway if at all but I guess the footprint was there I guess there was some how much I guess I gu comparatively the current driveway to in terms of its footprint how much increase is this driveway from that so so the best we could tell I mean I think it the the driveway that was there I think was like a um deteriorated gravel so there was really no real good hard delineation um but the parking in be in front of the garage and that turn space I don't think was technically there although there was indication that we believe that there was they were using it at some point to turn Vehicles so how I guess how how much square footage is that little Park is that parking area and the turn space because that would probably be how much you're adding to the driveway I guess in essence right so I have the parking behind the house is 305 Square ft and the turnaround space on the side is 180 so 485 total so it appears that prior to this Rec if we if we were to assume there was a dve a pave driveway there before at one time before it deteriorated that the lot coverage at Le you know I don't know what the zoning was then when it was built but the lot coverage at least as per today's would have been exceeded it would exceeded anyway correct okay that's my only question any other questions for board members I have a question yes goad um just based on the applicant being named Sterling flowers and for those who are listening uh we want to make sure this is a private home and it's going to stay a private home we're not correct owning a business in in an our district correct that just happens to be the name of the corporation that owns it okay um now I'm going to open it up to questions from the public of of their W of their experts uh any member of the public wish to come up and ask questions of their expert any member do I hear see none only those two um okay hearing no uh questions for the no opportunity or no desire for the the public I will close it to the public for questions uh any other uh testimony or witness uh no other testimony if I could just kind of briefly sum up um obviously we are here for the lock coverage and then the uh di Minimus variance um into the front yard which is limited to the overhang on the porch um I think you can consider these variances under under both a C1 hardship as well as a C2 um flexible analysis um under the C1 I think the lot layout uh the way the house and the garage are all laid out um creates a situation where you you need the additional parking area in order to avoid some stacked parking and um and the turnaround um you know helps uh you know helps avoid cars backing down the driveway um I think perhaps more applicable is the C2 analysis uh where we allege that the benefits do outweigh any potential detriments uh by allowing the parking layout that we have it allows this site to meet all onsite parking requirements without the necessity of any stacked parking um it eliminates in part the need for on street parking um as Mr Ellenberger had mentioned uh Metzler Place pavement is only about 16 to 18 feet wide at this point uh so any on street parking right in front of this house or right next to this house um would certainly interfere with 2A traffic and possibly impede emergency vehicles um the turnaround as Mr Ellenberger had mentioned uh that does serve a function of avoiding cars having to back down a rather long driveway into the street uh so we think those are the benefits in terms of negatives or detriment uh we don't really see any this remains as a single family dwelling in a residential district uh the lock can accommodate the increased lock coverage um I believe roughly 630 Square F feet over what would be permitted by ordinance um previously under the B2 zoning District I think we were allowed 35% so I think what Mr Ellenberger was trying to drive at um with the misunderstanding uh we would have been in compliance with lock coverage but um you know the fact that it's not the B Zone and it is the R5 Zone we are in fact over on the lock coverage um the applicant here will comply with the conditions that are noted and as a result I really don't see a detriment in we would ask that you consider granting the application any members of the public want to make a comment about this application I have problem oh okay okay well no no no hold on hold on if you want to make a comment on the record please come up and say who you are if not don't make it from the gallery uh we we we you know if you want to come up and agree or disagree come up identify yourself would you handle that mic please right and just so you know ma' the the reason you come up is technically whatever you say at a public it's on the record it's sworn testimony and you know for the board consider s in please absolutely uh actually first name and address for the record please Janice colore 80 planfield road okay Janice colore all right we'll have a record of it um do you swear or affirm that the testimony you're about to provide will be the truth the whole truth and nothing about the truth so help you God yes okay great please proceed I have no problem with it because I pick up somebody that lives in a house next to the house that's there and her driveway is very difficult getting out of so I have no problem with having the street is way too narrow okay that's all I have to say oh thank you thank you for your comment appreciate it appreciate that thank you Mr chair can I can I yes certainly I I mean I know you know we're always talking about drainage and etc etc uh this does seem like a I mean we we've seen others that have come I guess close to this percentage but this in terms of square footage and it's a small Pro uh lot do we I mean do any of our experts have any issue with the the drainage on the property I'm not sure if you were able to review um the board Engineers email yeah I mean I saw yeah I saw that he said it was di Minimus but it does seem like a I don't know 600 square feet I know it's not a lot but we're we're always pretty picky about that here so he he's okay with that he thinks the yeah I know he said I know and so don't have a problem this isn't my expertise it's his so if he's okay with it all right then I'm okay with it I would say what can we have him PL another tree I mean water yeah I mean that that that would be the only thing I guess I mean I don't know what the drainages like there in that neighborhood or would you comment on that I give you a brief overview so obviously it's a very wet area because of the Conservation District uh just to the South and the river um what seems to the the natural um gradiation of the site is actually um goes towards metler place um flows towards the street and a little bit in this direction how um runoff is handled the rip wrap in the front Works fantastic and I actually checked it in a couple storms and actually works good because I want to use it in another application um uh leaders Splash on grade here are flowing naturally to uh with grade the only leaders on that main part of the house are on the southern side here and here in these Corners here they're splashing on grade and naturally finding the their way to the oh something wrong with your mic it just died yeah of course that's where pipe here to take it under walk and takes it directly to the rip WRA on the street now the rip WRA flows in this direction and there was a 6in storm pip under the road which takes it to the conservation the wooded area um so the property of per none of the properties there perk very well it's actually very red area but what you're saying is you're not contributing to any of the neighbors water no as a matter of fact this rip wrap is actually there's a little bit of stone area over here and actually the Overflow from this property the and then across the street would you say that the improvements you've done to the to the house compared to what was there before improved on the drainage overall without question okay thank you thank you open okay I'm GNA open it back up to the public for questions on this particular testimony is there any questions from the public no okay I'm closing it to the public thank you all right uh I think without any more comments or any more testimony no correct okay uh do I have a um a summary yeah summary I can provide that Mr chairman uh actually before I summarize I actually wanted to confirm uh so you're seeking two both Varian is correct uh one for a front yard setback for the principal building 50 ft is required or 50 foot minimum is required and you're proposing 16.05 actually the um the the principal building I I believe it's roughly 23.1 ft um what was noted by your board planner is the fact that the the home okay was at 16.05 FT okay I'm sorry 16.77% even say that that's a variance I really wouldn't I think that the variance is that they went up in in in a in existing increas amount of wall space I I wouldn't quibble over whether it was it's you know 16.05 or 16. S whatever seven but I think that it's it's technically they need a Vari in my mind this board usually has required variances if even if you're not going further into the setback you're creating more mass totally understood I just want to know what the exact measurement is for drafting the resolution so we all understand what what exactly is being proposed I believe it's 16.05 16.05 I would use that because use that because I'm assuming that's been surveyed okay that's great just wanted to confirm everything and then to that same point um the other bulk variance was for a lot coverage ratio uh 25% is the maximum you're proposing 3.42% is that correct yes correct great okay so two bulk variances again front yard setback um 16.05 fee proposed for 50 is required or is permitted and lock coverage ratio um 3.42% is proposed where 25% is the maximum permitted so we got that um additionally there were three conditions the applicant stipulated to um which were all contained in our board planners and board Engineers respective M Miranda the first from uh Miss Len's memo dated March 26 20124 uh the applicant shall provide landscaping and or fence screening to the south and west of the HVAC equipment to screen same from the roadway and adjacent neighbor subject to the review and approval of the board planner um the two from uh Joe vo's email April dated April 2nd 2024 uh the applicant shall restore and stabilize all disturbance with top soil seed and straw mulch subject to the satisfaction of Township engineering department and the applicant shall demonstrate that all existing drainage patterns will be maintained post construction also subject to review and approval of the township engineering department sounds good to everybody we're on the same page anything else anything I'm leaving out anything additional okay and that's the uh that's the application Mr chairman okay Jerry would you like toh start the deliberation yes I think uh the word di Minimus has been used and I I agree with that it's um I don't think it's impactful to any of our soning ordinances to the neighbors or even to the Water Management in that area it is what it is it's a swamp and I don't think anything you're doing there is going to intensify that I'm comfortable with it I think it was an oversight uh maybe they should have come here but still it would have been I think it would have been similar to this type of application you're not really doing much there so I'm in favor of it thank you Jonathan yeah I don't have any problem with the uh the application I believe they they've shown that this is uh this is within the is the the ne the uh positives outweigh the negatives on this and I would be you know amable to proving this Meredith well I thought the same thing I when I was looking at the uh the uh variance relief for LW coverage and saw the difference was between 25 and and 30.4 2% it seemed hardly burdensome and it's still remaining a single family dwelling um um I thought too that the benefits drastically outweigh the detriments to this and they're really I appreciated it too that you brought up as well the um drainage with the grip wrap and that there didn't appear to be any issues about how you know doing any kind of construction might further impede or produce an issue within the neighborhood um so I'm in favor of it go ahead uh I'm a fan of the word di Minimus as well in this situation uh the before and after pictures it looks like things got improved by this project so all good for me so thank you very much Tom thank you um Dom Minimus once again Dom Minimus raises its ugly head uh but it it certainly does apply here the the the purpose of the of the building has not changed the overall structure has not changed in fact putting in this driveway is uh a betterment to the property and to the area so that any standing water as seen in the original photo will have a way possibly to flow off the property and be caught and taken out to the swamp uh to that end the positives well outweigh the negatives and I'm in favor thank you um I concur with the rest of my board members uh I'm um uh impressed by the fact that the property has been improved it appears that metler is is U becoming quite the little uh Village there uh some nice houses and nice good Improvement to the property as well as the house and uh it is uh a benit to the to the neighborhood and to the town itself uh and I uh I appreciate you uh testifying to the rip wrap Stone as it uh serves to guide the water to an underground pipe and out to the area where it can handle it so metler is is somewhat drier because of that I would assume um so I would also agree that the U that the negatives uh the positives I weigh the negatives uh there aren't really many negatives uh the DI Minimus increase in coverage is justified by the use of the driveway and uh the uh the way the U traffic flow and the fact that the property is is on a street that's very narrow and we don't want to choke up that street with cars uh so I would also be in favor of it thank you do I hear a motion I'll move it second second roll callor who's the second and that's a motion to approve with all the Y okay Mr Rono yes Mr Rosenberg yes Mr Watts yes Miss Collins yes Vice chairman Groff yes chairman G yes motion carries congratulations thank you very much thank you job yeah so before we adjourn what's that's the next meeting oh let's see you have well three on the agend the your agend the zoning board's agenda is full through July okay can I tell you busy what what's the next one our next meeting is when and what's coming up on April 16th okay and how many applications currently three okay um 1893 uh Long Hill um they may or may not be ready to begin testimony we'll have to see I thought you said you were going to put them on the next one right we did and if we have to we'll carry them to May okay right exactly we want to give them the opportunity in case okay um but we'll yeah but as right what are the other two 74 Morristown Road for bulk variances and 216 High Street for bulk variances okay all right very good any other business we need to take care of no none dier I don't think so okay just asking I don't want to uh I'm I'm going to start reviewing uh you we're start talking about the annual report yes on the yes we should get moving on that and I think oh there is for the newer members um I will be sending out a link to take there's a online NJ D training course thing that you have to take so I'll have to send that out oh what's what's going on with that sumers one what is that that uh that's Summer Set Club you're set you're set for that what day is that again April 9th I think it is April 9th it's weekend okay just remind me of that April 9th is next next week it's a week from today yeah you didn't get back to me and let me know right it's the 20th sorry what it's April 20th yeah it's April what 20th 20th that's better yes okay it's a it's April 20 Deborah it's April 20th yes that is a weekend yes okay terrific all right just wanted to know so I wasn't uh miss it or don't as of right now you and Tom flatly are the only two attending so great terrific all right I will get you the purchase order great do I hear a motion to adjourn so moved second second all right all in favor I all right thank you for