##VIDEO ID:Wma5w6OGrII## should let yeah any um okay all right anybody ready call us to order at um six yeah welcome everyone um Mar school committee meeting I just want to double check see if we've got Alison Taylor she was supposed to be coming in on Zoom so you can some if you see your just you know search great and we are live streaming so um awesome thanks everyone welcome welcome everyone thanks good to see everyone um before we get start well let's do the pledge of allegiance congratul to of the United States of America and Republic it stands one nation under God indivisible with liy andice still have people coming in just give me a second so make sure folks get in great um okay before we we're gonna move on to commendations I just wanted to make a quick comment um you know I thought about this about you know what to say or what not to say tonight coming back from the events of the last several weeks um and I feel that if I don't say anything that's probably not going to be well received and if I do say something it's not going to be well we see it's been a you know it's been a difficult time here in the district um I think that the important thing is that we focus on getting back to um all of our jobs which is to work with our students and to help all of us to do our job to help our students get their education maximize their achievement um and that's really what we all are all here for so um I want to thank everyone who's here tonight thank everyone who's online um and appreciate that we're all going to be able to move on I don't know if anyone else wanted to make any comments no I think we have a lot ahead in the year to come um hopefully a lot of growth opportunities and for our district and for our town um and I hope that people can come together to harness those growth opportunities for the betterment of our students great um I'm going to move on to um commendations I want to commend our custodians they got a lot done during the closure um they were able to catch up on some work that often happens during periods of closure like over the summer and over the winter break um repair items and things like that so um I know a lot of work was happening with that and we're very grateful for those projects we were able to get ahead of um I'd like to commend John Constantino Our Food Services director and and his staff as well um they work tirelessly throughout the uh the period of um strike period uh to make sure that our community was fed for breakfast and lunch every day including our our Boston based students so um that was uh really great that he was able to do that I appreciate and um acknowledge Him for for for doing the right thing making sure that those children good thank you speak Lou we can't we'll do the best we can do I repeat it necessary let's move on to public comment if you could just give us your name who is it my name is uh Daniel Rosen 31 Le stre I am the father of three Marblehead graduates and the husband of a Marblehead Middle School teacher my comments tonight are really more related to my profession in Pro program management I've worked in project management for nearly 25 years in two large multinational corporations successful organizations of all sizes and all types practice continuous learning they believe it is okay to make mistakes as long as we learn from the mistakes and we don't repeat the mistakes clearly the town of Marvel had has a history of making mistakes when it comes to hiring and retaining superintendence Jen last summer in the same Spirit of continuous learning I asked you what the school committee could do differently to assure that the next superintendent is more successful than Dr Bucky in the previous approximately five superintendents I think everyone agrees that contract negotiations were painful for the whole town I think everyone can agree that what uh that we want what is best for the students we want what is best for the town we want what is best for the teachers and their families so with these common goals in mind I would ask the school committee the union and the town to undergo a process of Lessons Learned ask what worked well in the process ask what we didn't what didn't work so well but could be done differently and maybe what should not have been done at all thank you thank you very much I appreciate that there's spots in the front if you want to have see hi my name is Mary mccarrison P dri model head first of all I can't remember which one said that you know we have to take care of our students and make them more acceptable within this town okay I know I'm sorry I meant what you were saying that we had to take care of our kids first of all I have to thank everybody over here because without taking care of you and letting you end up be able to take teach have livable wage benefits and make schools safe for our kids so I want to say thank you to all okay second I'd like to say thank you that Al that was the question that I was going to ask today early at the 9 o' meeting Sarah I can't believe it you stood me up for a meeting and then you didn't call on me today with my hand up for the whole meeting okay so you you need to be transparent you have to work with this community and I know I'm a pain but that's what I'm going to continue doing until we get it right and I hate to think that we have to wait until June thank you just check let see I don't see any you mind signing in did you sign in thank you just so we have a Rec look at screens SK keep me Rado Martin terce and I know we all want to move forward but one thing I'm really having trouble with is the roof situation at Marvel at high school um as we voted to approve our new contracts last week there was a garbage pan in the auditorium with water dripping into it next to the stage and I wasn't able to attend the meeting today because I was at work but I heard that now after town meeting approved in 2022 about 4 million I think maybe it was I could be wrong in that number for the high school group now we have an $1 million amount and we need an override for it and I feel like that was not something that was communicated to anyone and I feel like it was probably known for a little while so I feel really frustrated by that and my kids go to school here as well as some other people um on the school committee and we need to work together to get this done this can't continue the maintenance of our buildings is a major issue and it's not just one building it's all of the building so I really hope that this the roof can be worked on over the summer I heard that's not going to happen and there's mold and it's going to continue to be one of my focuses as we move forward and I will help in any way that I can to get that done because it shouldn't ever have been left for all these years thank you thank you do not see anyone oh do you mind signing in sure hello everybody um I'm Pete conon Bo Ro and last night myself and many others sent an email to this school committee ask a few very clck questions we asked why the facilities committee had not met in over a year we asked whether they plan to meet again past today's meeting at 9:00 a.m. we asked where's the documentation from fy2 budget requests including some that went to town meeting and we asked for Sarah Fox to step down as chair of the facility I extended this morning's facil meeting and we did receive a few sufficient answers I was pleased to see that the meeting was broadcast and also posted online for anybody else to watch and I appreciate that but we also received a lot of ation and very confusing end round answers this to me is very poor stewardship of a very important topic in addition this morning I received what I can only describe as the most inflite personally offensive email that I have received in my adult life from Sarah the last line of which was you are a very smart talented woman who I believe could positive change if you could stop your NeverEnding Quest For Destruction this is conduct Unbecoming I will reiterate Sarah please step down as share of the facilities subc committ or set down from the entire school I do not um I do not see just double check um anyone else great thank you okay moving on we have um our student Allen welcome thank you we're all very happy to be back together and in school Quarter Two began last Wednesday and classes are back in full swing quarter one report cards were sent out and Senior transcripts were sent to colleges winter sports have also started most sports had tryouts this week and games and meets will start soon additionally rehearsals for the school play the Sleepwalker by Benji Boyd have started the cast will be attending the Massachusetts educational theater Guild drama fest preliminary round on March 1st and our co-head our co-head Acappella group the jewel tones got into the New England voices competition which is very competitive and they will be attending that in the end of January thank you um okay moving on District update superintendent Rob yes thank you chairwoman um can you guys hear me I just want to make sure I'm loud now yeah okay uh so the district updates um uh it has been a tumultuous few weeks um and I'm glad that agreements have been reached and that our students are back in school and our educators are back doing the great work that they do I thank you I recognize the Motions ran high throughout the strike and they returning to the classrooms and getting the teaching learning back on track will take some time and some adjustments I'm confident however that our Educators want sure that they will focus on the students while being in their success I know that they're being attended to in a professional and caring way because as Educators Student Success is always our first priority so I'm I'm glad that we're back in class and in in moving forward I know I know I want to recognize that there is some work that we need to do um starting me the union leadership and talking about some ways that we can kind of move move things forward so I'm happy about that um we will be making making some adjustments to the calendars or account for the makeup days we're going to discuss that um in more detail in a few minutes an adjustment of Assessments progress notes report cards Etc will also be made when and where needed so um you know given the 10 days that we need to make up as some adjustments and we we'll continue to make those adjustments um as needed at each School level I want to share some kudos to Julie forrera um our assistant superintendent of teaching and learning um from Joanne Miller um from the Marvel head mental health task force juliia presented oural curriculum to the task force and had an interview with the current onling programming that we have in place and I have actually two two emails that if you don't indulge me i' like to read because I think it's uh it's good positive um things we need to share um one is from um Joan Miller and the other is from Susan Susan stealth uh so the first one is Joan Miller dear M mhcf Marvel head mental he mental health task force good evening I hope that each of you enjoyed a very Happy Thanksgiving I just finished reading the article in the current entitled learning more about the school's new social emotional curriculum featuring Susan steal interview with Julia Ferrera please accept my enthusiastic appreciation for this most timely piece we are grateful to have Julia introduce the program at our meeting in November and it's very heartening to have such a positive initiative to focus on with our marhe Public Schools this week the piece highlights this curriculum being implemented to ensure all students develop essential social emotional skills I especially appreciate the lessons described the lesson described that designed that are designed to help students identify their passion as they start to identify by their purpose so they can navigate their lives with purpose it's it's inspiring to imagine the impact that this effort can build for our students and I like to recognize Julia's hard work and passion passionate commitment to engaging this program in our schools and a shout out to Susan whose interview is beautifully crafted and shared well done grateful yours Joan the back the second um email that I got late this uh later on this afternoon um this is from Susan stal uh this is mutual admiration response I learned so much from the collab ation with Julia and was especially impressed with how focused enthusiastic and calm Julia has been throughout the difficult time with a strike she writes and speaks so clearly and I would guess has been a wonderful influence on teachers and students I can't wait I can't wait to hear more in the coming months about the impact this initiative has had on the students and teachers this is such perfect timing for this to be rolled out and such a vital lesson for students and teachers about the value of honest communication and caring and the pursuit of attainable goals kudos to the Marvel head schools for committing to this schoolwide Susan so I thought that was important to share it's um it's an initiative that we've been working on we've shared at the school committee D is doing a really nice job rolling it out with her team um congratulations to the m magicians on the big win at Fenway winter sporks are underway and I'm sure that we will see continued success for our teams our fall season ended with the following records and achievements thanks to our ad Kent wheeler for providing the recap he's really good about sendy um kind of the recap of the sport so I'd like to share that with folks if you if you don't mind varsity football they're overall record was eight and three the NEC record was 5- Zero the NEC dun division Champions seated number six in the MIAA division 4 power rankings boys varsity soccer overall record 113 and six NEC record 72 and four seated number 10 in the Mi a D2 Power Rankings Pros verocity soccer overall record 95 and five NEC record of 54 and4 seated number 10 in the M A2 Power Rankings girls volleyball over overall record was 12-7 NEC record was 9 and3 seated number 20 in MIAA division 2 power rankings girls field hockey overall record was 314 And1 the NC record was 310-1 seated 36 in the MIAA D2 Power Rankings Varsity golf overall record 12-4 NEC record was 11-2 qualified for the mia2 state tournament boys cross country overall record was 7-0 NEC record 7-0 NEC dun Division champion I MIAA D2 state championship second place finish girls cross country overall record was 4 and3 NEC record was 4 and3 Mia A2 state championships 20th Place finish the overall fall season record was 63 39 and 16 which represents a 612 winning percentage the DC fall season record was 5124 and N representing a 661 winning percentage so kudos to all of our um Athletics um that's great showing from Marvel head everyone should be really proud thank you um the um the the ministration product plan has come to fruition at the high school middle school in the village first period provided their products and all stations have been installed we talked about this at the school committee um several meetings ago and I just wanted to give the update and that this is a great program and one that I believe will eventually be mandated so we're actually ahead of the curve here in Marblehead so kudos to first period for getting that um implemented and our school verses for really um pting um and U making sure those things were in place um today was our principal of the day aiana Paradise was our principal of day at Glover and Eva Stanfield was our principal of day at Brown I was able to welcome principal's Paradise at Glover this morning and she was very excited about her role principal Stanfield came by to visit me at my office where I learned about her very busy schedule I am so glad the friends of Marblehead make this opportunity possible and we're grateful for the efforts to focus on our students I have more friends of the marble head kudos to share um this I was going to share this at the last meeting we end up having the cancellor but Maggie dolin our our teach Sher Glover applied for a grant from the friends of Marblehead to purchase picture frames and she and all of the K8 art teachers worked on installing student artwork throughout the elementary schools the middle school and Central admin office during the PD in October it's great if you come to the admin office all the walls are covered in Student Art it had been before but there seems like there's a lot more it's vibrant it's it's great I love it um I love that this is made possible and that Student Art is shared for all to enjoy thank you to all involved couple more things if you indulge me our Meco director uh Kia Johnson has scheduled a free winter celebration event for our students at Roller World in sagus on December 12th 2024 from 5: to 7 this event is sponsored by Boston Bridges initiative and is a great opportunity for our students to enjoy some time together outside the school that's all of our students Transportation will be provided specifics have been shared on with the families by cages there's a fly out of su been circulated um but December 12 5 to7 at Roller World and SAS uh which is very cool um the ratifications of the M moas for our contracts there are two new committees being established one is the joint Labor Relations Committee our management committee I think we call it to review and recommend changes to our educator evaluation system and the others The Joint Committee on school safe created to review protocols processes resources Etc required for Student Success these were two uh big items during the during the negotiations I was glad we were able to come together and get these uh committees um on board and moving forward um I've met and I've identified um from the uh admin sign who are all the people and know that me is working on the same so both committees are made up of um members from both me and the administration and will be charged with collaborating to identify areas of growth and recommend any changes that are identified the first meetings meetings are slated to scheduled by the end of the month I look forward to the collaboration that both committees will provide so very exciting stuff um that's all I have for now miss chairwoman anybody have any questions awesome okay let's move on to schedule bills I have two schedule bills um that we're going to take um in order I'm going to do the big one first um so I'm looking for a motion to approve the identified schedule of bills totaling 2 million 92228 second that was out yes okay I'm G do a roll call Al Williams in favor Brian Oda in favor Sarah Fox favor Allison Taylor I think she's she's I see she was Al oh yeah that should be Alison can you unmute I can now it won't let me do video either um just so everybody know that's why I'm today you in favor in favor yes okay thanks and Jen shaffner in favor five to zero thank you very much okay a second um and that seem a little high at me but we have missed a meeting so that's sort of two meetings worth toal we have a separate um schedule bills uh schedule schedule of Bill to approve um so I'm looking for a motion to approve the identified schedu of bills toing $135,700 in favor ran Oda in favor Sarah Fox Allison Taylor hang on Al in favor okay Jen shner in favor that's four to zero one obstain thank you everyone um the next is the approval of minutes um I just want to let the committee members know I had put in the agenda the minutes that I had had when I posted the agenda which were September 19th and October 7 but we also did receive September 5th minutes as well so I'm not sure if everyone has a chance to look at that and we can decide if we want to approve those minutes or if you'd like to hold off to the next meeting on the September 5th draft any comments on that I'm okay discussion we're not okay so I'm gonna ask for um approval of I'm going to do all three I'm going to ask for a motion to approve the minutes of September 19th I'm sorry September 5th 2024 September 19th 2024 and October 17th 2024 I have a concern about the September 19th okay so why don't if I could ask for the motion in a second then we can discuss just second and Allison Taylor second okay um comments discussion ran yes on the 19th it's very bottom under opening business public comment we have Sally chevry supporting to honor Katherine Martin for the dedication for students I believe Sally opposed it okay all right so why don't I um go back and have Allison we look at the um yeah exchange okay so we if we approve we'll it pending okay so we we can approve the pending the review by Allison MC to go through that and change it then I can resubmit by to the committee okay any other comments or questions on any of the other minutes or any of the September 5th other than that 19th of the that M for we call um Al Williams in favor B Oda in favor Sarah Fox uh Allison Taylor in favor J chff in favor approved zero okay um we're going to move on to the school committee communication and discussion items the first is the mea contract summary um which is really I guess I just wanted to take a moment Sarah you can jump in um as member of the bargaining subcommittee um thater keer was supposed to be with us here tonight but he's in another meeting so he may come later um he's able to get away um or maybe join us online um but just want to let everyone know we did approve um all of the contracts both one year contracts and three-year contracts in the form of a memo of memorandum of agreement which highlights the main I guess changes to the existing contract that will be reflected in the new contract that has all been ratified by both the marble Hood Education Association and the school committee with the exception of the custodians contract which is their one year and threee which will tonight they were unavailable last week when we did the ratification so U we'll be doing that tonight and following up um those memo random of of agreement Agreements are on our website um so folks can take a look at the the signed copies um in speaking to um our attorney she's in the process of drafting the full contract which will be taking those changes and and making it into the full document which will need to be reviewed by the um B Education Association but but what I've been told by her is that we will not need to vote that we will simply need to sign it once we receive it um and it will take a few weeks I don't know either nodding your head if that's the case or not we are work a parallel track okay I'm sorry I didn't hear that last think we can do it a little bit quicker than just a few okay think we two done yeah okay and then once that's done we I my indication is that we will sign it and then the the union leadership will sign changes arei and then once that's done all that will be loaded up onto our website as well so so let folks know that just so people know too we um I IID asked that It Go in two places on the website for the contract all of our contracts need to be up on the cont up on the website so we have those under unit unit contracts tab so we made sure the moas were there in accordance with any contractual obligations but we it's kind of a clunky website right now to dig through so we also put them on the landing page just to make it easier for folks to get to that but if they see that the documents are in two places it's the same doc where you're just trying to make it as easy for people to find as possible yeah one of the things among others that I learned in the last few weeks is there are a lot of school districts that don't have their contracts on their website so that's one thing we did but we want to make sure that we have the agreements up there we want to make sure as soon as the contracts are finalized um that they're up there so obviously so the public and anyone else who wants to see it has the opportunity so any other comments or questions no so is that just the summary we don't need to we're not rev voting then no okay no I just wanted to give an update on where everything is and okay all that I think most of the folks in this room know that and have seen it but just obviously for the public to know um that they're up there and uh let's see okay so I'm going to move on to actually I'm gonna ask for if the if the um members of the committee are okay if I move the custodians approval to the later on in the meeting so that so that may be here by then he's in a negotiation himself so is that um yeah I mean if we if we as long as but if that's the last item left and he still isn't here we will'll move forward without him but I think it would be nice if if everyone was here yeah because we do have a um yeah we do have a forum so okay um okay so we're gonna um move that we I apologize to the that's what you guys are all here for the custodians but um we're moving from just kind a quickly so um school calendar change was John but he stepped out for just a moment so I'm going to move on we'll come back to that move on to school committee goals which were in your drive um it's two-page document uh that was put together as a draft by the school committee or the goals school committee goals subcommittee so I'm not sure Brian you want to review this or well yes um Allison yep you want to do the goal one yeah go ahead you can go first that's the wrong one that's for the sub that's communication there's one in the Dropbox that we put in for the goals I can share it off my screen if you let me okay I'm not sure we need to show it on because it's just all it's a stage of just writing so you just want to describe it all right so goal one it's review and update I mean I think it would be good to show for the rest of the people in the room right people online I'm making you co-host thanks you should be able to share your screen John Pio I know you're hand raised we had public comment so um I will did did that come through by I'm trying [Music] to that yeah oh we jumped over school calendar that's okay we're zipping along so we had go okay sorry about that that's right so goal one was review and update all school committee policies and protocols goal is one second Brian is there any way to make that bigger St or no or J can you um like a magnifying glass if not no just my old eyes keep going yeah maybe a little bit more folks see that yeah that's good okay thank you thank you so goal one the policies and Protocols are critical areas that the school committee must remain current policies must be kept current yearly with Massachusetts general laws that pertain to schools and with any regulations from Massachusetts Department of Education Elementary and secondary education desie the policy subcommittee will review all sub school committee policies and procedures to ensure that they align with legal MC Andor Desi requirements suggest updates to any of the out ofate policies and procedures and to request assistance from legal or masc as needed organize the policy folder on the school committee website for an easy identified process for the community it is kind of hard to figure out where they are when you go into the policy page so the checkpoints the measurable checkpoints will be expected to provide to the full school committee following each policy subcommittee meeting and the expected date of completion for all of the policies and procedures will be June 2025 any questions yeah I just had a couple questions so you you said policy procedures do you I think do you mean protocols protocols I okay all right so do that because yeah okay so that's protocols that's what it says in the document though right so the documents say procedures in the in the body of the document Alison oh it does I thought I see goal I see protocols maybe it's just not changed we can I can change it down to the two bullet points PA I do see that yeah up above in the mangle it does say protocol so I'll I'll change that okay just to make sure yep absolutely we don't necessarily do procedures and the only other question or the comment I want to make I mean we can do this if we meet Al un I and then we we bring updates but I was involved in the past in 2018 I think it was where we did a full review of the school policies with masc there was a there was a significant charge for that because it hadn't been done in something like 15 years and it took 18 months um so I'm not sure um if that's what we're looking for and we can talk about this or whether we're looking for you know maybe we're going through this we can work with our masc rep I because I think we're in pretty good shape I think there's a few things that we need to go through and we can do that with Alicia um but I just wanted to get some clarification that we're not because there's a full review that you can hire an ASC if you want to do that we can do that I just want to understand what the that's not a five month process yeah I don't think that was our our intent with this however that it it certainly can become that if that's what the will of the committee is for sure discover we really need right and I think even just getting them all in one Landing place for right as it stands right now if you not all of our policies are in the policy but for instance if you go to the technology page the policies that were voted at the start of covid as it pertained to technology they've been assigned policy numbers and everything and they were they came through the policy subcommittee that was in place then they weren't ever added to the policy tab for some reason where are they yeah it's a great question um they're on the technology ol website uh the tech when you go to the technology page they're there and those really came out of once we transitioned to digital learning we were required right away to have multiple policies that spoke to that and so we the policy committee was able to convene and get those up okay up and running quickly they just never got put physically where they needed to go okay yeah um so the other thing with a full review I don't think that that's necessar we've done that in the last several years because masc sends out updates around the specific polies if they feel need to be updated so I as long as we kind of if the subit focuses on those and then of those going forward it's a cical thing so yeah yeah I think you had to do it before because it hadn't been done in a while it had been done it hadn't kept up with it and it does happen with st false regrets but I think we can definitely do that Alison if if I can make a request it would be embedded in this goal here if you can go back to when that policy review was done in 2018 and and look through each agenda which are still up on the time website I believe we list What policies were rev voting or amending by their policy me I there was a period of several years where the policies just they were getting voted but they just no one was then doing a downstream of updating them where they needed to go so if you can kind of go through those those via agendas so you'll know where you were in 2018 and that all that work that was happening since then I I I sure I know I know yeah I know that maybe that's something I I can sit with the agendas and just list but um until we needed we have January you know until I was asked for legal reasons last spring to find the technology it I was not aware I've never served on the the policy subcommittee I was not aware that they had not been being put where they needed to be okay y um and that's how it came to my attention I do think also working with Alicia and masc will be very helpful too okay so we'll we'll look for that okay that that's great got it Mission accepted okay go to don't know what you can do gold to if you want Brian since you're on the I probably should have done one since I'm on the policy you can do two since you're on the the communication subcommittee and I'll just do three that's no problem so the goal of the uh this goal two is to enhance and improve school committee Communications one second B do we lose the um on the screen what Happ are you sharing screen still I can share mine if needed oh there you go perfect right the goal is the Marvel head school committee will develop a detailed plan on ways and opportunities to improve and enhance the communications provided to the community these communications will work towards developing further transparency but also greater reach of communications so the bullets are Crea communication subcommittee which was done D and I develop template for the school committee monthly newsletters and we'll show that um when we meet at the next school committee meeting uh improve the school committee website which we start working on provide the school committee meeting minutes within a month of a meeting date and I'm working to figure out how we can get caught up so this will be attainable uh draft the proposal for the me management of public comment response and Al and I will talk about that when we do the subcommittee update identify potential improvements to school committee meetings schedule an additional teamwork and Communications with the masc workshop create short surveys on a quarterly basis to ensure and gather updated Community feedback develop a plan to improve relationship with the local media contact for example Marblehead C weekly and Marblehead cable television so this will be done at every subcommittee report That's How we'll measure our progress any questions thoughts and that's you and Al yes okay I just noticed um maybe just sort of a simple Omission but there's no expected data completion well for that particular goal okay well I put down there that we will report out every every uh School community in Communications thing so I suppose we can do a summary at the end of the year if that's deliv form yeah it to me it's similar to how we did with Goal one and goal three yeah we do have I think this this goal is a little bit more kind of dynamic also which I so I think we were looking for just some input from the rest of the committee as well in regards to you know their ideas on you know even more discussion on how we could do these things um maybe that's a better time you know once we're talking more about the how then we could it'll be more obvious as to what the a better win might be yes um that's why we thought just you know reporting out during meetings on what had been done I changed those two um words at the top for you too Jen um you know but but definitely Al open to to feedback right we want to make sure that everybody is um is is on the same page and kind of understanding because I think on some of these the how is going to be really hard well we had the quarterly surveys where we just you know do limited surveys to find out how people feel like for example on the newsletter if it's uh informative enough clear enough that is satisfying them so those kind of they like short quarterly surveys and thenit that would actually fit into your request at the end of the year we'd roll up the three the four um reped that we would do the survey and then report out the answer at the end of the year how we did on fin1 now wouldn't it just be that we have two quarters left if if we're measuring this spot through June yes that would be a normal year would okay was there any discussion of doing any more kind of open forums Town Hall public well we'll get to that I think the question you're asking we'll get to that when we do our subcommittee report out okay so that wouldn't be part of the goal I definitely wanted that to be part of it I I think that we were waiting on um Alan Brian you know there's a little bit of overlap here right with these some of these goals and another subcommittee um I think you will find there's repetitive nature here but I I think that's a idea to add it to this because I would love for us all to be held responsible for having open forums because I think the forums can be about a lot of different things and we all want to be there and be a part of them so I would be in favor of adding that here if you're okay with that Brian I'd like to see um the addition of one to two Town Hall style meetings before um June 2020 yeah and those topics can be determined because I think what we've learned in the past is having a it it dictated kind of different different topics for different meetings is much more productive rather than it just being kind of did you want two typically annually or you're saying two from I the ideal is three annually but we're in a weird time frame so I I think if we said you know one to two that that gives an opportunity to strive for two but I'm fine with that one but one I maybe what we can achieve with what we have to undertake over the next few months do and do you go ahead Alison no go ahead it's okay no just because say I agree with Alison I'd like to see it in the goal I put it in there oh I did I added it as we were going yep um as I mean I just we're in an open meeting so it's okay for me to update this in front of everybody before that gets becomes a problem um I also feel like maybe Sarah I know you said before June I think it would be great also if we could have at least I would like to have one before may also I'd love to have both before May um before town meeting because I feel SLS sense slink that there are going to be a lot of things at town meeting that are going to be critical to success and that will require people to be fully informed um so you know I think we have we have four months to figure out two town hall meeting dates I feel like we should be able to meet that uh just so that people have enough time to vote at town meeting voting at town meeting is then you know what propagates what will be on the ballot or not sorry um it's just we should be proing that March or April brings us the budget hearing as well so what we're looking at is really January Fe March April roughly every six weeks finding a time to have a a town hall style meeting that that would be wonderful if we could do it I don't know that if our goal if we're trying to start with realistic goals we having one town hall every six weeks is a realistic goal but but I think we I think the one to two frame is help because that gives us some some availability because the budget hearing really it's more than just a town hall I mean but it's it's that you know plus more um but it's another opportunity to have a conversation with the public so I'm just wondering I'm looking at the third one which I know we haven't gotten to but I'm wondering if a general one should be under the communication subcommittee and one around the budget should be under the goal number three which addresses the budget well we're required by law to have a budget hearing yeah that's that's no the budget hearing is very specific it's very specific where and how we have to okay um publicize it so that one is is in and of itself all right yeah yeah I wasn't um it's actually not listed I'm just looking at goal three it's not listed in goal three but are are there any other questions before I move on to that that's a great point though Al um before I move on to goal three are there any other comments questions additions subtractions that looks good okay should Town Hall great yeah agreed um goal three is to improve the documentation and communication of the Marblehead public school budget process in order to provide additional opportunities for transparency and understanding among the community that's a big one um a clear understanding of the budget process budgeting process is needed I think there are a lot of processes um that we probably need to do this same thing on and if we had created I mean we could create a goal for to understand the process of um what bargaining is as well but the budget books uh are available online providing line animal level detail to the community this was a huge gigantic enormous Improvement um and I think everybody should be really proud of that effort I know how much work it took um for Michelle previously and then then of course this year it will be the same in an effort to further partner with the community we'd like to work to improve Communications and understanding around the MPS budgeting process I think having it clearly outlined and defined will help people feel like they have more information and help them to be able to um you know translate that to more informed questions and or concerns um because I think when people you know there's there's a lot of fear that happens when people don't know things and so the more we can share about that budgeting process which is not something that it's not what this school committee did I mean there's There are rules and laws that we have to abide by so develop an outline of that budgeting process and present that outline at the beginning of each budgeting season we'd like to have that done relatively quickly um and I think presenting that what Brian and I discussed is presenting that at the beginning of each budgeting season because there could be different committees each time there could be different people showing up in the public each time and just reworking that and redis it not reworking rediscussed primer to include what the process is to develop the budget where the numbers are derived so where do they start from this isn't a school committee that just decides we want $100 million we are given a number um and we are required to to meet that number um and and part of the reason why we are financially in the position that we are in is because those those rules have not been abided by in the pass so we want to make sure that we have um the required timetable that's set by the superintendent um explain to folks what the purpose of meeting with the finance committee is and and what they actually what fincom actually does and brings to the table for us and what role they provide because I think sometimes people don't understand that um a definition of terms so there are a lot of terms that people don't understand whether it's free cash or anything else um explanation of the budget subcommittee roles and respons posibilities as well versus the entire committee have that onepage cheat sheet uh identify as a committee any gaps or additional available data points that we should be sharing um or you know and as the public comments on these things making sure we go back to that and improve it um and increase the level of detail but hoping to keep it to one page because after one page people tend to stop reading um identify opportunities to update and improve any budget process related policies um as as needed not really sure that I remember what we meant there because I think our policy is pretty set but if there are ways to to improve that um even if it's just improving the communication or when we communicate at what point we start communicating and start the process I know we try to do early and earlier each year um we think that that would be helpful um checkpoints would be expected on this at the full School Comm committee meeting once a month so once a month we'd like to have and you know we're getting into budget season anyway so we'll be talking about that a lot um we would like to have an update on the progress of this particular goal this is very very aggressive obviously we wanted to try and have that be done simultaneously with you know when when we really start looking at numbers um but that's point of number three I I think this is all you know good good goals to have um we may be further along than than you think on some of these the budget primer last year Michelle Cresta partnered with um Alicia Benjamin on the T Town side to do a budget tutorial um that was open to the public to come to um kind of walking through a lot of these items um there were some people that attended it wasn't as well attended I think as as people would as I would have hoped considering um the fiscal reality that we're in in this town I I would have hoped more people kind of had dialed into that but they really kind of went through the process what all these things are what is the role of income a lot of people don't realize it's advisory only um various things like that so we I can reach out to both those individuals and get their their slide decks and that and that may give us you know a starting point to giving this information to folks I didn't mean mean to um imply that there there wasn't always already progress oh no no I didn't get that at all I just I you know I I was just I was giving us a leg up and saying I think we're further along than than thought and I like this you know identify opportunities to update because when we look back several years um we didn't have a budget book online we didn't have mine item right breakdowns building by building um you know absolutely we've as we've gone through the process we've heard from the town we've heard from people at town meeting and we've heard from fincom and each year we've made it tighter and better for instance the new iteration last year was um some select board members and fincom had said you know they wanted to see what was going on with our revolving funds and our grants and so we were able last year to take that information add a tab to the budget book um here um add a tab to the budget book that just gave that that extra deep layer of um information so people can see that Although our our budget may be $46 million from the town would it cost to run our schools is really closer to 70 or above um and that that's largely dependent a lot of that's dependent on revolving funds and grants and other things like that um I think particularly as we go into the next year that we're going into and you know there's Cur concerns on the national level will will some of those federal grants that we rely on so heavily change um and will our access to those change I think having that that that detail level of detail available will be good uh one thing um I do this this is great it's great well it does look like there's some work to be done here so I'm just not sure is this sort of being tasked to the budget subcommittee or that's what yeah okay yeah I just wanted to double check that I think we also need to be I mean I think we it would start with the budget subcomittee but we would want the whole committee's involvement in and approval of you know primers that we publish or or and communicate out or whatever yeah and I also think that we will need some probably some eyes on it from the administration yes a little getting a little concerned about are we are we putting this on the administration so I I think I think I I think it's a collaborative effort there but yeah definitely I think there needs to be the preponderance from the school committee and then we we plug in what needs to get plugged in and just review you know some of this reviewed by our subject matter experts whether it is M never or as WEA perhaps on F the downside so yeah I mean this is great budget cycle is is going to be a very heavy lift um we are behind the aall in our timing we had hope you know typically in the a typical budget cycle the the month we've just been through there would have been a lot of budget development going on um our our Director of Finance would have been able to do a lot of meetings with our principes and our directors to really tease out and and develop their budget so that he could bring us to the next level and he was fully committed to getting us through the the last three weeks of those period so the budget calendar has been pushed back because of that so we do have a lot of catch-up to play here also in the town side because thater was fully committed here for three weeks as well so I I I just want us to be cognizant that our primary goal needs to be getting out a budget um that we can bring to town meeting and and we have a lot of catchup because of um the last month okay great this is great um so thanks um the folks for the school committee and goals subcommittee for doing that work do we think we need to vote this or do we just feel comfortable accepting that I'll defer to the well I would think you need a vote think we were kind of assuming a vote but yeah we apologize put that make a motion to approve the goals as presented by the sub commit ZL Brooks first do I have a second second um any other deliberation or discussion great thanks this is great great I'm going to go do I'm going to do W call L Williams in favor ran Oda in favor Sarah Fox in favor uh Allison Taylor in favor and Che you're in favor five to zero school committee goals are approved thank you um all right we're jumping around here folks I apologize I'm going to be thato here so thanks for making it over that we're going to jump back to the custodians contract um so Anthony we're g to jump to that okay I don't know if you heard that can you hear me Anthony I just want to let you know we're jumping to the custodians contract I just I we be holding that gratification I don't I I don't I don't what everyone you committee should yes so my understanding is that you have consulted spoken to the unit um president representative and that the agreement that I had sent over yesterday will is the one that we are explaining to be ratifying that's what weic to theit we response that's all I want okay got it I'm sorry because I I was over here at like quarter five sorry okay so I just want to be clear we're asking to be ratified with the contracts that were in box that's correct they were in ones that were in the Dropbox I also want to clarify that what was in the Dropbox was the one-year custodian contract and the corresponding three-year custodian contract um the ones the drop offs were dated November 26th because that was when we ratified all the other uh contracts last week again the custodians were not available to ratify it so the updated one just has today's date that's the one that we're going to be asked to sign today December 4th um everything else Remains the Same um clarify there were other changes um there was the payroll deductions language that was added into the document that you did share earlier today and there was a proposal that we have in our bargaining notes that had been withdrawn by the committee after the fact there seems to be disagreement as to whether or not the committee actually withdrew this proposal it was a verbal withdrawal despite the regressive nature of how things I'm going to pause every I feel like we're now bargaining in public I'm trying to tell you that as long as we Havey the S I'm trying to explain as long as the understanding that I communicated to you on behalf of the unit at 4:22 this afternoon is the correct understanding Y which is that the language of the payroll deductions is included which was not in the November 26 version the s bank which is included which was not in the November 26 version but is in the December fifth version and the version we last sent to you did not have the 96 hour for personal day requests which had been withdrawn by the committee previously we are now in order to get this agreement done tonight the asses are willing to make one other concession even though the committee withdrew its proposal over the okay so as long as that understanding is in writing simple yes or no voting on then there is a tentative agreement for you to ratify simp not in writing it's that simple I I need to know what document I'm looking okay so I guess you're not comfortable we can hold off I was gonna ask if what is the last document Jen sent out today the one you were bringing forward to be ratified by James's unit yes or no without having to in fronted me because we sent you a response at 420 that you did not answer I don't know all right so understanding is correct okay thank you for your time Anthony so we're going off I just want to let the the committee know that um the memorandum of agreement that I submitted to the committee for consideration was prepared by our attorney as were all of the other memor of agreement we we have ratified our document and that is the document that I have we've done all yes and that's what we are I'm asking everyone toi tonight which was in the drop which is so I have the email at 5:32 PM from you is that the same yes document okay that one I'm prepared I communicate to you then we're good to go I last was 11445 this morning um it was when I just just Rec clarified it that had just the updated date and I S it this before the meeting so maybe you didn't get it the way I the way I understood the conversation was that what was sent out by you that went to Mike G back and forth is what Anthony is now saying that they are in agreement with I just we didn't get a response to our last communication about three hours ago two and a half hours ago prior to the meeting beginning so I just that's all I love my house at four so me too we're all very busy but I just want to make sure we're on the same page so I so can we just should we just wait then is that is that what would make everybody comfortable I I don't I don't need to hear about the 4302 have been held hostage for a very long time I agree and I'm not to I I I think let me just I will say this if we ratify the documents that had put into the Google Drive that we were prepared to vote tonight we've ratified it the unit still has to ratify it so that also can be clarified that we would send these documents over and just ensure that and if they're not and then they don't ratify it and it's not ratified until they ratify it so I don't okay that's fine speak so I'll make a motion ratify the enclosed document provided by our attorney dated December 4th for both the onee and the three-year consecutive codian okay um motion by Sarah do I have a second a second okay um any discussion or deliberation I do uh my B I have a um any discussion deliberation great I'm going to go roll call uh Patrick keer I vote Yes uh alens in favor biota in favor Sarah Fox in favor Allison Taylor in favor J shner in favor so six to zero for the custodian contract um I also have uh hard copies that we need to sign so we have three of us we have the one in three yes is that one that was in one motion just the one oh we did one motion both your motion covered both okay yes that's fine okay great all right thank you everyone um let's go back do we want to go back to the school f for jumping around folks I apologize I apologize for stepping out a bad time so I apologize for that you good yeah yes um so so I just want to share with the with the community and the folks here in the room that um just to make sure that everyone understand stands that Des the Department of Education requires 180 instructional days for students every school year um so with those 180 instructional days if there's snow days there's any reason to make up days we have to figure out how to fit them into the calendar prior to June 30th we take past June 30th so we have to work within that time frame to be able to make up those to make sure that we reach those 180 days with the strike that happen um we have 10 school days to make up there was 11 days however we moved the PD one of the PD days the first day of the strike so instead of 11 days to make up we have 10 days to make up um so I just want to make sure that folks understand that we moved the January 31st PD day to the 1112 the first day of the strike um I have two proposals that I'm going to I'm going to throw out there this is not by any means the only um necessarily the only um things we can think about but I just want to share the two proposals and some of the um the ramifications of them and then maybe some some other possibilities what I will start also by saying is that I called Department of Education I spoke to Rob curtain who's the one that's kind of in charge of um school calendars in the 180 days making sure that we're following the regulations um my question to him was do we have to make up all um the days that are missed due to the strike and he said yes um I said can we make up any of those virtually he said no um is there any way that the commissioner will wave any of the days that we need to make up due to the strike he said no and the reason being is that if he is to if he is to wave any of the days it um incentivizes um unions to strike because then there's no repercussions that was his words not mine so I just want to share that with you um so that's that's important the other piece is you know there's days instructional days is 180 there's also instructional minutes um hours that we need to meet so for secondary is 990 it's n 900 um so when we look at our instructional hours at at all the buildings and all the schools we meet those instructional hours um we over both of them um you know the secondary level and the elementary level by a little bit but we but we meet the um um the regulations there the think questions by the community and by I think staff well what if we did some longer days would that count if we you know did an extra hour a day and a couple days would those extra hours count towards making up to 180 days the answer once again is No so I want to I start this conversation by saying that I I explored pretty much every option that I think is out there um I tried to get my colleagues in Glouster and sorry cler sound like I'm English now Coler sorry I'm Southeastern mask um uh gler and um Beverly to see if they would can join me in in pleading to the commissioner um and it's it's just there's no there's no wiggle room so I just want to be very very clear that I I I went after that Avenue I try to pursue that Avenue first and foremost before before anything else I think that's important for me to share so 10 school days um one proposal and and so when I make the proposals uh there's going to be some discussion by the school committee ultimately the school committee um determines the calendar and there's some there some decisions we can make tonight we don't have to necessarily make all the decisions T we can make some of the decisions we can hold on some of the decisions we can have further discussions about some of the some of the decisions so how I outline it was proposal a and proposal B and then I'm going to talk a little bit about an alternate possibility uh proposal a would be um utilizing Monday December 23rd which is the first day of our winter break as a school day uh February vacation there are four days that are that um are not holidays there's a holiday day in in over February break so we would look to um have school on the 18th 19th 20th and 21 that so the 23rd of December February 18th February 19th February 20th and February 21 would be five days um April again there's a there's a holiday there so we have four days we can grab on the 22nd the 23rd the 24th and the 25th and then that would um allow us to to take a day at the end of the school year the 23rd um before I go into the proposal B the way the calendars are set up we we hold five days at the end of the school for snow days so a lot of a lot of the input that I've received is why don't we just add all the school days at the end um and not take away the holiday the the vacation periods um what we need to remember is that if we steal all the snow days for makeup days due to the strike and then we have snow days I have to back the snow days somewhere and those will then go into the U likely the April vacation too so regard so you know we're robing Peter to pay Paul to make up to 10 days so I just want to be very clear about that so proposal I'm calling proposal B would be the same Monday the December 23rd the same February days 18th 19th 20th and 21 and then this would be the scenario where I would do the five days at the end the 23rd of June 24th 25th 26th 27th of June uh the the caveat to that proposal is if like I just mentioned if there are any snow days that need to be made up we'd have to bump them back into the April vacation so we could potentially Preserve April vacation but if we have snow days before April if we've already moved our extra days that we have to make up to the end we're going to have to bump the those snow days into April so either way we'd have to pick up the April vacation can we share this on the screen for people I don't have it on the screen I'm sorry I didn't I didn't set it up that way I'm sorry um it's on the drive can we I did I don't know if she did she put it in the drive I can I mean I can it is I'm I'm looking at you can pull it up that's fine I'm sorry you can pull it up Alis sure that's yeah oh sharing is not turned on sorry need you co I'm G make your co-host should be able to share your screen Alison okay um and then this scenario would also include moving graduation dates so if if we steal all the days at the end of the school year as as makeup days for the 180 days um by Statute we would have to move the graduation days because by Statute and law which the commissioner cannot wave even if we say mother mayi we have to have 16 68 days of instruction prior to the graduation and the other way to look at that is you can't have the graduation earlier than 12 days from the last day of school so right now graduation is slated as June 6th so if we did the proposal a some combination of that we would still be fine if we did proposal B where we're bumping those days at the end of the school year we would have to move the graduation we that's that's a non-negotiable we would have to move it so I want people to understand that piece um so those are the two proposals the alternative to those proposals would be potentially look at it some Saturdays um I didn't put it on the proposal um I want to be cognizant of our Jewish Community um and obviously we can have that we can have that conversation a little bit more but I you know I personally didn't think that that was a great great um place to look to grab some of these although it could be so I just um think that's open as an alternative but I I I just I want to be mindful of that um when I talk to other communities that look at that very similar um ways to make up to days we we just have a limited time we can do it um and I know I know there's families I know there's staff that have bigs Etc already planned um again this is this is a consequence of of of the strike that we all have to live with and um you know once we get through this school year we'll get back on track with a a typical um a typical school year uh someone also ask about the PD days we already stole the one PD day there is a PD day at the end of the school year after school that um um the the the union um utilizes as you know supposed to land the last day after the last day of school um so you know we could potentially talk about that but um that's one of those things where contractually at this point I I'll think it I think we're still work off the old contract where where we don't have I don't have a control over that day yet um but I'm willing to have that conversation if people want to have that um Alison can you just blow that up a little bit on your screen sorry that's okay that help y that's great thank you okay sorry okay so I appreciate that Allison so that so those are the two proposals and then I talked about the alternative of possibly grabbing some Saturdays now to the school committee I think um the discussion and decision is do we vote one of the two proposals do we vote one of the proposals do we vote part of a proposal we could potentially do the December 23rd and February and hold on the other five days if you need to make up I I would leave it out to the committee to have a discussion and decide I have had a lot of input from staff and community members uh via email and phone calls um if the question is did I do a survey I did not have not had a chance to to do that um based upon you know kind of catching up after a couple last couple weeks um but I have had a lot of input I take that input to Heart there was a lot of conversations about we used the minute to make up that's why I talked a little bit about that at the beginning I'll the answer that's no so yes so we'll open it up for discussion Sarah so I thank you for making that phone call because I called I know I called and asked you to do or you talked about that earlier in could we possibly get a combination of days and minutes and unfortunately we can um several factors are factoring into the this the bottom the bottom line is there is no good path through this like those vacations are meaningful they're good the the breaks that are needed for our community for our students for our staff there is no path through this that is not further harming students so I I that's just reality as far as utilizing Saturdays we have heard very strongly from our community for many many years about how strong um the Jewish Community is in our is in Marble Head um and how important it is for for us to respect that and I think by by having um my holidays is different ask them this is not a meeting with the public it is a meeting in the just ask you to we have heard we're deliberating we have heard from many members of the Jewish Community who have asked us to keep their sabath day free from classes we have heard that so that is Weighing on me um also it is not lost on me the idea of moving graduation um and which would mean they book The Prom that that normally is a very ceremonial week where they have the prom and the different events that lead up to graduation and that would be chopping a lot up for those students who've already lived through covid I I believe their freshman year and and I think they've had enough harm done to their High School experience so what I will say is another big factor for me is the the testing these kids have to do um whether it's the mcast or the AP test because of when we start in the school year here in Marblehead we've heard the last two years from parents um once we've released our calendars that it's putting their students who are taking AP testing at a disadvantage from the peers Nationwide some schools start in August um other districts even locally start before us so those kids are getting fewer days of instruction prior to sting for those tests um and if we were to not meet those days till the end of the year that would be five fewer days of instruction these students get than everything else so because of that um I I would recommend that we go as horrible as it is proposal Ed can I um I have my hand raised can I ask a question may not be popular opinion that's okay um used to that can we can I I like the enormity of this whole thing is is bigger than I think anybody probably watching or in the room or whatever could have ever dreamt of anybody living in this town could ever dreamt of um it what is the requirement for us voting and making this decision today or in a week or next meeting or what have you or could we put together literally a one question survey sure we can PE give comments if people want to make comments too um you know proposal a or proposal B for for the parents not the community but for parents um and teachers sure um to to vote on or to provide input on because this is a this is 9,000 per of lose lose situation there's no winning proposal here there's no winning option here for literally anybody so I'm thinking from the perspective of you know being transparent in communication and valuing the input of our parents can we put together a quick survey put it out there one question proposal a or proposal B sure give a comment section if we want although it you know can't necessarily be included in the data results and or or we do include it and I'm happy to do all of the work behind the scenes to gather that data and put together the analysis because I think it's that important before we vote can I just can I just respond um I don't think that that's a bad idea and I'm hearing are hearing that people you know would probably prefer to have some in some more input than than we've gotten um just unsolicited um I was trying to make proposals because people are getting really anxious about what that what the year is going to look like I get it so I didn't you know I don't want to the can too far down the road so I'm not no and I'm I don't I don't want to give them weaks I want to you know you you have three days yeah no that's and that's fine but I think then perhaps if the if the committee wants to go that route which that's that's up to the committee and find you know do whatever we want um I think that the very least we need to vote the the December 23rd because that's right around the corner um and and and and discuss it um you know there's a lot of conversations about skipping the February vacation and start with the April and then the five days at the end and that's not going to give us any ability to back up the snow days so um that as a proposal St on the table so I just want to make that clear as well and we'll give us any any ability to do snow days but y hear from the community that you know asking about the Saturdays might not be a bad idea and maybe asking for inut on the proposals um but again it's up to the full committee to decide whether or not we want to um you know wait and then we we'd have to vote at the next meeting on the 19th what wait hang on um Brian and right I'm not really sure if we run a survey how that's going to represent what's needed for the district in order than be able to make up these days if B says that we're banking on no snow days that is really a non-option so there's only one option on the table which is proposal P so I'm not sure why we want to do a survey on top of that because really well I think the one about input because parental input matters that's why go ahead sorry no I mean we either want to be we we either want more communication and interaction with our parents or we don't and and if this is an opportunity I understand totally on December right now John and I understand the enormity of this and needing you know to to H for people to be able to plan um and I understand the proposal b means if we have a snow day we do have to bump back and take one in April I think we can make that abundantly clear and still get the answer from the community that doesn't mean we will necessarily go for it but we will have their feedback which has been one thing that they have just requested time and time and time again yeah and just so you know but I think proposal B says we's on December 23rd schools on the four days in February and then by April we will know the end of March what our snow day situation is and if we've had snow days we will then need to vote to have school during able vacation so it will be sort of a last minute am I right right correct yeah I yeah yeah so it doesn't mean it is an option it just means it's going to be a last minute and we have parents need to be aware of that obviously we're giving them all this information and when we write out the survey again I'm happy to do all the work on this to get it done because I feel it's that important and when we write it out it will be very clear please note there there could be the possibility of a last minute decision if we have snow on April Fool's Day I mean I there's you can't get around that I yeah I think voting on December 23rd makes sense as John suggested and then yeah let's let's get some input more input around the rest of the the uh the two proposals so what I think I heard John's suggestion or possible suggestion at the beginning was December 23rd because everything includes all of February grade as well what's up for grabs here potentially is April grade grade um so so what jna suggested at the start of this was that we vote potentially to approve the change of dates of December 23rd February 18 192 21st because those those don't seem to be a variable here whatsoever and then those final um five days we can look at following that which could be a combination of Saturdays if that's if so choose that or Andor part of April break or Andor at the end of the school year so it would leave us a little latitude if we did the five days that we know that we really don't have a lot of wiggle room on um and I think that gives our parents understanding that February break is school and our staff that Fe break his school and um you know he can plan accordingly one one factor for The Saturdays as well is we have staff members who if we were to say Saturdays legally can put in for a religious observance whether they say ahead of time or not they will not they can and we could be left with no substitute teachers on these Saturdays because we have a significant number of teachers that could take a res religious observance on Saturday the other thing I think you know aside from the religious I have to I have to get with Kent wheel and look at our Athletics um you know our Athletics uh calendar too because you know clearly there's a lot of games and stuff that fall on Saturdays you know practices games possible tournaments I'd have to look at that I don't know how far already has stuff scheduled but you know kids are certainly be if they're G CH choose between basketball or coming to school we know what they're going to choose so I think you know we have to look at that as well so there's have coaches and coaches so can can we what I'm hearing is the five days so December 23rd which I fought so hard for to not have to work so it's frustrating December 23rd and February break can we vote on that tonight and then can we do a survey that asks about the two options and also asks the question about how people feel about Saturdays just again so people feel and understand that their input is valued and then in in two weeks at our next meet on the 14th or whatever our next meeting is I don't even know the date right now um we can present the data I can present the data and you know we can discuss it even further and have that we might also it also it will also provide people the ability to kind of take in this information and um provide their their public comment which I'm sure they'll do anyway um one thing that I think felt obvious to all of us because we've all had this conversation I think with John but may not feel obvious to the community right now is um there is a full intent I don't know will be at this meeting or at a later meeting to suspend the attendance policies for students during these periods so that students and families can travel without any damage to the students grades or anything like that any work that would be done during those periods would be asked um through the administration to be made available for students easily through our various platforms whether it's Google classroom or other platforms that are already in use so that students and families who have pre-existing travel plans or engagements can do those um with an excused absence while still having access to to the to the that material if it's during the breaks and I think I think um we have the full breath of the conversation so I think part of that is we need to balance balance that conversation with making sure we're not just giving car blch say don't bother sending your kid to school because these instruction needs are important so you know when I look at attendance stuff it's it's not that it's not important for everybody but high school when you're looking at you know um credits and you're looking at uh eligibility for sports if they're not missing certain days I think we really look hard at that piece and then see how it makes sense for the other District at the other schools um I'm definitely willing to to to look at that might look like um because I think you're right Sarah there's some we have to give some sort of um you know some sort of flexibility there um and it may be just a combination of of what that looks like um what our policy looks like could look like or something in the mid I should say I am prepared to suspend the PS during that period yeah I would agree to what they want but I'm not I am not going to penalize students for agreed okay um so I mean I this survey makes sense I would like I would hope that we could make some of the explanations and again we don't want to make this too unwielding but you know John why we didn't you know why we have to take the February week because I know a lot of parents are probably thinking well that's the one I may have had plans for before the April but there's reasons that so I think that has to be part of the survey right and again just a couple of quick sentences around why it's not a proposal I've heard Alison say that she's willing to um to formulate the survey so she and I can speak um to each other and just um craft that I think you'd be willing to do that yes Alison absolutely yep we could do that like a narrative or an explanation yeah that's space tomorrow early next week get that out to folks and then go from that then the the only other thing we're on the Saturday question is how do we process those answers right because you know it's not going to be a majority perhaps or you know does I mean it's a religious observation I I feel that we shouldn't we should honor that well you have to versus so I don't know if I can make that part of the survey if we're uncomfortable having school on Saturday that puts specific people you know in a position where they can't attend and we won't have Z on those days either right listen I wasn't trying to make anybody uncomfortable or or Force anything I am a religious person myself so I I wouldn't that wouldn't would never be the intent Al I'm just looking to didn't mean to intend that so yeah no I didn't think so but I just want to make sure that I make that clear um for people that would be writing about this so I I think it's I just was trying to make sure that we and we can explain um also in in the narrative for it um I just want to give make sure that our parents and this would would be for parents not community at large to ensure that they feel heard and it may not be a majority in I I we don't know what the feedback that we will get we don't know what people will select but we are at least giving them the option and at least hearing them listening to them and able to present I'll do the Excel analysis and present it back um I just feel it's that important yeah I think think the 19th is the next meeting so we have time to get that turn around I didn't have time to get it turn around meeting in anyway shape or form so no no no not not expected at all I hadn't even talked about it with you so sorry sorry for springing it but I I'm to do as much of the work to take it off of other people because I understand what it's like right now than go so I will make the motion to make Monday December 23rd February 18th February 19th February 20th February 21st school days one second do I have a second second second by Brian so motion by Sarah second by Brian 1223 to8 to19 to 20 to 21 of 2025 to be school days um any other deliberation or discussion okay I'm going to call for a roll call Al Williams cant Oda in favor SAR Fox Allison Taylor this gut wrenching in favor in favor we have five more days to and so we do um go forward with the survey hopefully get those results back by the 19th you know we want to get that in before we break for the winter break so folks have no the expectation will be that there you know maybe can have a five-day turnaround time or I you know we're not it's it's just going to be one question it'll take people 30 seconds to answer and it's for parents obviously it's not parents and staff I'm sorry so I think Alison is Tuesday uh Tuesday a reasonable turn around to get that out yep I'm actually not sure it should be for staff this we really need to make this about the students and the students get didn't get to vote to put themselves in this situation I think and neither did their families so I actually feel strongly that this should be students and families that vote how it's never been about the stat SAR okay okay thank you thanks okay great um okay so we'll move forward with that and we'll have it on the 19 it's like met my obligations under chapter 150e excused allow the school committee to conduct its business thank you appreciate have a good night thank you B okay we're now moving on to the contract approval uh this is for uh the approval for the Marlet High School uh roof um for the um design portion specifically for the design portion um with rayen Design Associates um was part of the school um roof not repair roof replacement project um this contract would be with the school department I guess which is why we are approving it um so any contract that we have we need to approve so I put it in the Dropbox um sir I don't know if you discussed it at your facilities we did Mike um shared a proposal with us and he actually has reached out to us since the meeting today ask if he can schedule um Jun Raymond design as well as left Feld to come in and do a cred ation on the process um more than me of that discussion will come under the subcommittee and liaison updates um but there is a full proposal um up under the tab I believe for today's facilities meeting from from genan Raven design um showing you know the scope of the project there so so can I just can I speak to a little bit too um so this is just for the contract of design of the things not the whole and I think um it's important to know uh Mike piffling had already presented to the select board as well so they've already they've already heard um they agreed as well so today is just really to to vote to accept the contract design and um like Sarah said that the information is up on the website so you can look at it um kind of what the full scope will be but this is just for the design portion of the project make sure so I just want also want folks to know that the um contract for the design portion of the roof um includes basic Services which is a total of $400,000 and there are two reimbursable expense items that are in allowance so I believe that usually means if it's needed it it is over and above the 400,000 which would be $10,000 for a moisture scan of the roof and $15,000 for an hbac review of the existing equitment so that is the um scope of this of this contract that we're being asked to approve so I'm going to ask for a motion in a second and then we can discuss discuss or delate if anyone has questions or comments so can I get a motion to approve the contract with um Raymond Design Associates for the maret high school roof replacement so moved mov by Val do I have a second second okay um so Jean Raymond for those who did do not know G re design designed the brown school and worked on that project left field who's the OPM was also the opam on that project um I will say left field does a very good job of running a tight ship keeping costs tight um we came in 1.4 million under um our estimates on that project and they did a very good job um and they they have a history of working with Gan Raymond and um know any any areas of concern or they they can stay at Alison any I mean I don't I don't see in the Dropbox but I um I guess I'm sure they did a great job but the fact that we've had a plethora of problems at Brown too um including like second week after the kids moved in there I just am so that would give me a little bit of pause um um that's all yeah so the this is this this process is an RFP process so when when out request for proposal um it's the the company's chosen by their you know their standards and what they what they bring to the table so it's not it's not like a low it's not lowest bid with an RFP so they they uh will chosen based upon their ability to provide the services I know that there's some concern with uh what what took place at the brown uh we've already had those conversations I was actually in the meeting with Mike and the um RDA in um left field when we talked about the roof and we shared all those concerns right up front um I am 100% confident that uh Mike piffling our finance um assistant superintendent finance and operations will be right on top of um our facilities manager and the two companies as we moveed through the process um to make sure that everything is what it should be moving forward um so I I'm very confident that we'll be able to move forward with the high school roof um and we get to that conversation um you know we we we have there's a lot of different parts of the roof conversation that we'll have to have um when we get there so and Alison I I brought up some concerns I had um what I am confident is any pitfalls that occurred on the previous project were supervision ISU issues and I am very confident that um Mike piffling can can oversee this project um completely and he knows I have any concerns and and I think is is equipped to handle it um I yeah this I mean my concerns aren't against um Mike and it certainly wasn't against Michelle from the prior Administration it's more against the issues that we had and like the Mike piffling isn't going to be able to know whether the field is built right they couldn't use the field for the first year they were there so um yeah I Hest I just have a question around the full scope around what this may include is still a little bit in in flux right it is and we'll get more into that to the subcommittee but his design so this is for his design work his design work will be the same no matter what no M that's my so regardless of the proposal this would not change yeah his design is design work okay um this I think that's where there's a lot of misunderstanding in the community when they think of a roof project this isn't you know calling tryan Roofing and just getting a new roof the square footage and the cost of this triggers many many hurdles that need to be jumped through through b Mass General law and just replacing a a roof on a square footage such as this um we needed to have NM because of the the value of it and so on and so so forth um and we're required on a scale this large to have a full scale set of drawings um by an architect so that that won't change no matter what Avenue we go okay the good thing mik p and mcpp I'm an mCP I believe mcpo um Mass um procurement officer Mass yeah we have many in the district yes we we have a lot of eyeballs on it so you know talking about how we go through the process and all the checkpoints um I know Mike's been involved with different um projects I've been involved with projects window projects um in the past so I I'm pretty confident between all of us um there going to be a lot of eyeballs on the project because we know you know uh some of the issues that have been had already in this District so we'll make sure we're spending the money we're doing it properly and everything's done right I just wanted to share that I don't I don't is it in the Dropbox because I don't see it here is it's it's uh there in the 12 contract it starts with npss C12 you know then to dat oh that's it okay it didn't lend itself to that at all and again it's not like financially financially I'm not worried about it oh there it is I'm not financially is the financial part of it obviously is a concern please don't take this out of context but just operationally knowing if things were done properly sorry it's my mom again um knowing if things were done right operationally like you know Mike and John aren't going to know if a field had was was level and had the right amount of fill and and all of that so that is I mean Alison that was a clear someone signed off on it without walking it that that's what the field was and this is just designed right now this isn't even construction conversation so those Construction Happ down the line this is just the design okay I just want make sure we keep I mean wa it's the will of the committee it's fine I'm but this I'm this is my opinion on my concerns that's all so I'm gonna call for a roll call vote Al Williams in favor ran Oda in favor Sarah Fox in favor Alison Taylor in favor chaper in favor so that's five to zero so I'm going to go ahead and sign that I can do that tonight or tomorrow um electronically um okay going to move on quickly to um I just had an item in regards to the Charter committee meeting there is um a committee actually that your state explain this but there is a committee um that was formed I believe it's subcommittee of the select board um that is uh pursuing the um idea of of a charter for the town of Marblehead which would be something that would go before town meeting to be approved and my understanding I'm not I I am a complete neoy in this is that it's um it is a basically a descriptor um if we adopt it of the of the bylaws and rules of how sort of things work in Marblehead including elected and appointed boards yes and and their role yeah um and that a chart if a charter were to be adopted that that would be the sort of goto playbook for how we function um amongst our our boards elected and appointed so the charter Commission um the charter the town Charter committee has been asking um each of the elected and appointed boards to come before them and answer some questions um as they determine what will be presented at town meeting so they asked the school committee uh they asked me and the entire committee if we um are able to attend which um every meeting they had was on the night of school committee meeting except December um 12th which is next week so I aged to go December 12th um and any of the members of the committee that would like to go and attend the are welcome I just need to know if we have a quorum I need to post it as a meeting um so you will okay um so just before anyone decides the qu so what I want to say though is in my conversation with Amy Drinker who's chair of this committee some folks might know Amy she was previously served as chair of the Marvel school committee the school committee really our board and pretty much everything we do is governed by state statute so a charter committee a charter is not really going to have much effect on the school committee um you know there's some things that they you know boards might under a charter potentially change a board that is currently elected might become appointed things like that none of that really pertains to the school committee because we have um we're governed by exclusively by stat State Statute but she still thought it makes sense would make sense for us to come before us so the questions that they're asking just so the public knows and committee knows um does the current structure of your department allow you to effectively deliver services to the community does the current budgeting process effectively meet the needs of your department could probably spend couple hours talking about that would you suggest any restructuring or realigning of your department any other suggestions so we don't have a ton of legal room in there but I I think it is we have an obligation to go before them and have this conversation I'm asking the committee if you would like to join um Sarah said she would you don't have to decide tonight just if you could let me know um um hopefully by tomorrow so then if I need to post I can post for that okay thank you and I can report back or we can report back um I think it's probably a one-way conversation we're gonna answer their questions and it's more it's more it's my understand because I was in one of the conversations the charter committee it's it's just really to kind of describe each each um department and how it DBS with the things so it's probably more how does the school committee operate how many members are there what's the voting process how how long terms so that that could be part of the charter less less Sol like Amy probably could come on to the other side of the table based on her experience but um anyway so just wanted to let folks know that um so let's move on to subcommittee and liais on updates um who would like to go first you want to do facilities sure so we had a a facilities meeting this morning it was live streamed it's available on the um on the YouTube channel um we were given a the districtwide facilities update my pierine went through a list um there was 32 items that were to be accomplished in this fiscal year as of today he had checked off 15 which was 47% and Todd actually informed us that one of them is uh the wind window replacements over at the Brown School from the two shattered Windows is happening tomorrow so as of tomorrow we be exactly 50% through the list and I think we calculated we were at 43% through the fiscal year so that was that was good um we talked about the roof project um leftfield as I said leftfield and um J ran designs would like has asked to come do a presentation to the facility subcommittee which we're trying to book um that will be a public meeting as well that will also be YouTube live stream um so that's sub committee not to the school he asked to start with a subcommittee and then um potentially we'll bring it for forward further okay um we talked explain to the public a little bit about the process of the the roof how it's not just calling trayon Roofing and getting a new roof how there's a pro a rather drawn out um process with the the request for proposals for the OPM then the request for the proposals bring on the architect so on and so forth um what really has come back is through the process of going up there and getting on the roof and quoting it has come up that our hbac units are at the end of their life EXP expectancy and it's expected that in the next 6 months to three years all those units will need to be replaced um apparently the the Salt Air or approximated to the ocean has is causing rapid deterioration of the units more quickly um and there was some discussion about how the new units would need to have special cating on them to kind of help with that that Salt Air um the there's multiple options that dur the presentation they'll get more into and explain the the pros and cons uh but essentially um if we did the roof project without doing the hbac units in the next six months to three years they would then be breaking through the membrane therefore avoiding the warranty of the new roof to as to replace units as units need to be replaced however if we replace all the units now that was not part of the roof project that would be additional monies that would be needed through probably some type of debt exclusion we did talk about it's not guaranteed it would be needed through that we don't know where we are in the budget process we don't know where the town is in a townwide override if there's multiple options that I'm not going to get into all right now but but they range from pyramid override potential you no override is always a potential depending on the will of the ERS um Bond are doing an override now for the amount we know that we need in year four so that we don't have to do consecutive yearly ones and and all of these have complex you know Downstream effects um but one thought is it it there is the potential if it's if we do the override now and and not all of those monies are needed in year one because it's incremental increases that that amount could be used towards this project in year one therefore you're not paying interest fees and bonding you're paying as you go but but there there that's so far down the line the first step is really deciding if we're going to do just the roof now or if we're going to do the roof and the units so that you know that will be reported out um with some information at the next meeting with recommendations um we we were able to get some updates on the high school Greenhouse project that Tyler herb um provided through his Eagle Scout project um the final pieces of that the electrical and the plumbing and things are happening now I believe they've worked with um the fire department to get an okay on some propane um going in there to be able to heat as well um and that project should be a full closeout full up and running um by the first of the year they're trying to align it with when Tyler or was home from college so that he can be here for the opening of that um as well as I believe his Eagle Court onor um the uh Capital planning projects we're going to be talking about our next meeting um the school owned properties it is the recommendation of the facility subcommittee that we um sponsor an article to give cofin school back to the town and then it is the town's decision what the next steps are for people who kind of don't what would like some information on how that works we've heard a lot of sell cofin school and use the money to fund the contracts that's not how this works we don't have the authority to sell buildings we have the authority to give it back to the town the town then has the authority through town meeting to decide if it will sell it repurpose it or what next steps will be at that point the town sells the property the money goes back into the general fund and as has been our practice here and is quite frankly the practice in the majority of municipalities that I know of onetime funding through the sale of properties goes back then to F fund capital projects because you cannot or you should not use one-time funding or one-time Revenue to balance reoccurring cost and what got us into this pickle financially as far as using over Reliance on onetime funding I.E free cash to balance recur um so that would not be the idea that we're going to sell that and it's going to go back to fund contract that that just simply is not how Town any Municipal Finance Works um so that's our recommendation um we'll ask Jen that you work with that Alicia to see um if they need us to vote a Warren article or to place a warrant article if the select board will do that I know in the past when we give Gary back the school committee itself um sponsored a warrant article but that mechanism is easy enough to figure out and and we can take that vote Sor should we make a mo do we need to make a motion here around starting that process it's it's not it's actually not a very big process what it would be is when Jen finds out if we're sponsoring article or not we would take a vote and if we're not then we would take a vote to at least have jet notified but yeah my understanding is that the vote that we would take initially is to is to to take the property no longer we don't we don't need a surplus property we don't need it that vote do we need to be take it and that should be listed on an agenda rather tonight yeah we would want to have that on agenda and um there may be public comment yes as well so that gives an opportunity but I just I want we need to keep an eye on the um calendar just because if it is a school committee warrant that we need to have that done by the end of January but I already spoke I've spoken that and can you find out the timing from him because ideally we could have it at the next meeting next meeting is on December 19th I think In fairness to the public wanting to possibly make comment on this we might want to it time allows have it at the first meeting in January so that people getting ready for the holidays and stuff do have time to access that information and comment on it um and then as far as evth goes we talked about this came up in the facilities subcommittee about two years ago actually the idea of doing some research on an early childhood Learning Center um we we have great Early Education programs here in Marblehead um there's always weight list for them it is one of our largest revenue streams and as I said earlier today public education should not you know be a business however given our current fiscal CL climate we have to expand on every Revenue stream we possibly can um and so if we could expand that program it would help fertilize our budget and more importantly um early childhood education really is the building block in the foundation for our for our students and research has shown access to that benefits kids a lot um John spoke about how many many districts do this um there's been some talk too about whether or not Universal prek will become a mandate at which point we would be required to do it whether we have capacity or not um so the committee has asked John to work with Lisa Marie to talk about um to get some more information on programming that she feels is appropriate for our district um and then also to look into possible grants out there for feasibility study for this and um we'll have some more information back um I I think in the meantime evth is got that is oh so evth is actually still currently use the library still has some items in ESS um quite quite a few items unfortunately in ESS so John's been working with the lot Library Administration to get their items out um the town archives is has um partnered with the schools and has been storing some of their um things there and then under theou with Park and rack um they have requested to have access to the open gym space as overflow space as well um and John was Su in the summer and John's working with them to to for that to work during times that work for us as well um and be a good partner with them yes S I think the only other thing was in case there's a need for meetings in December oh yes maybe have someone you know temporarily replace me during that time so I will be out of out of the country okay um for facility for facility facility definitely should not be permanently but I think where we do have these this work to continue um I would ask for a motion to um temporarily assign or I'll make a motion to temporarily we assign who wants to do it I was because it's you have served on that committee prior um and it's very it's it's very temporary until you're back in mid January early or mid January couple um and I'll try to attend as many as I can but I gra to put this in place just in case not able to to attend okay all right um so there's a motion seconded okay any questions any deliberations I'll call for a vote Al Williams in favor Brian Oda in favor Sarah Fox in favor Allison Taylor in favor in favor so um five to zero facilities temporar and what we'll do is we can just Converse if we would not be able to have three of us that would be in school committee form so we'll just make sure we'll make sure either one of us there is Sarah okay got it yeah and I think Jim will just the default is you unless y I can and I'll let you know got it no problem okay um okay um other subcommittees Ryan well the communication subcommittee is going to pass tonight because getting late we have a bunch of questions so in we prefer to do it on the 19th okay all right now that'll be a full that not going to be here though right yeah but I I'll try but if not I'm fine with Brian you're okay repres okay so we'll do that on 12 19 okay um policy sub committee hasn't met although Allison hopefully we'll have an update hopefully by the 19th we'll meet on this because we've got the school committee goal we got to work on yep um what else any other stff safety to safety need uh that's just we we report out last time I uh we didn't hold the last meeting we have another meeting scheduled so okay the gold subit you guys did a great job um is that going to be an ongoing probably sub Committee just as we talk about how we report on both superintendent goals and school committee goals are you going to continue to meet do you think I mean are we gonna update yeah I mean but as the subcommittee is the subcommittee gonna meet to do that or I don't think I mean I'm happy to but I don't know that we intended to I thought it was just a for my goals I'm going to report out Midway through and then we'll do a summit of at the end okay and I'll do I'll do some updates in between somewhere right did I miss anything and you'll report out to the whole committee John like during our full coming up and then we'll do a a Midway and then the summative so let's keep that subcommittee in existence at least the goal subcommittee for some reason something needs to yeah leave in a b that big word for O Okay um any did I miss anything did I miss any um seatack I was traveling when the SeaTac meeting so I can okay are they monthly they're monthly okay they're monthly okay and Meco did has anyone AL C and I met um we had we had a a preliminary discussion and uh you know trying to talk about some some of the upcoming um opportunities maybe yeah so I meet with Kia weekly so I'm going to chat with that a little bit going have to do some of that by I think just kind of having conversations see what's going on um not put you on the spot I'm sorry with per information I didn't tell you I was going to answer but can you tell us a little bit about how we were making sure we were meeting the needs of our our Meto students as well during the past month because I know you know you talked about Food Services was available I know at three locations in town but how we sure that Boston students we had a driver I want to say um we had two at least one if not two different drivers driving in every single day um to Boston to deliver the food and we did it at Meco headquarters because we thought that would be the best way for them to get there um and then towards the end like um we did like a like right before the holidays we did like a a bigger drop off um and it was it was really well received the first first week first couple days was a little bit slow and then they you got the word droping up uh a ton of them there so work out with all the families came and access to food at that cooh for so it was great they they have they they were appreciative of it uh was in far that as well Millie had metco that was nice that them to allow us to use their yeah it it worked out really well it's it's essentially located you know that the the the me the families can get there fairly readily by tea and stuff thank you that sure um okay new business any announcements requests anything any want have anything on new business okay great and there's no correspondence to report on so I'm going to ask for a motion to adjourn so he Sarah second second okay Brian um L Williams favor B in favor Sarah Fox in faor Alison Taylor in favor Benner in favor five to zero weour it 801 you you a handed oh I'm sorry oh actually I apologize John D Piano I apologize and I think a or there were two people um sorry us but I'm going to me Venus U we had two people at hands up who I think I missed during open com public comment so wondering if the committee is is desire of the committee to allow folks who I miss to speak so I know this John TPO I thought it was yeah there was yeah it was so let me go look for him but John why don't you go ahead I'm gonna ask you John to unmute John D Piano okay let me just get if I see if I can get my camera I'm sorry guys oh you don't to see all right I'll just leave my photo up um uh so I I I did want to make this comment at your opening statement and uh I apologize I was fumbling a little bit with my hand and it was going up and down um I just wanted to make a comment with respect to uh the the the events that you referenced over the last few weeks first of all I will take issue a little bit with the committee language in describing the events as a strike and I understand as a group um we're trying to move past all of the vitriol and I think it's responsible of the committee to try to downplay the fact that this was an illegal strike I'm I'm from a family of team of teamsters I I'm not I'm Pro collective bargaining but when civil servants like our First Responders and our teachers take a job on the condition that they do not disrupt the community and engage in an illegal strike they they need to take that seriously because of the disruption it causes we just spent what 20 25 minutes talking about whether or not you're going to be cancelling um vacations how you're going to juggle snow days to make up the time uh that uh was missed in school because of the illegal strike the mea and the MTA in concert with the BTA in Beverly and the Gloucester teachers union made a coordinated and concerted effort to use the children of those communities and as of our community as bargaining chips it was that behavior that led my family to decide to move our child out of the Marblehead high school and into private school I believe there will be other families following I know there are other families following that I know for a fact because a friend of mine whose whose child is transferring also just transferred yesterday uh at a public school was told by their admissions Department there are 70 70 Marblehead families now moving away from the public school system to private school the behavior of the mea as a citizen of this community in my opinion was not advocacy for its members it was agitating the community and the rhetoric that the mea disseminated was dangerous and it culminated in that scene on the evening that you miss Schaffner and you miss Fox had to be escorted to your vehicles by a by two police officers it was that evening that another police officer went to go check as I understand it on another school committee member's home to make sure that that school Committee Member was safe the rhetoric was dangerous and the vitriol and agitation was unforgivable not only uh is that uh is that behavior unforgivable how however it's going to be something that people remember we discussed at the very beginning the fact that there's going to need to be an override discussed and voted on a town meeting and then on the ballot I speak only for myself but I can tell you that I've heard from a large contingency of people independently who feel exactly the same way that I do I will be very hardpressed to reward that behavior I believe that if there's any chance of of any additional tax funds coming to the school department it will only come it will only have a meager CH a meager chance of of passing if the mea officers Jonathan Helen Sally Chevy Hannah hood and Allison KY who was on the zoom and I hope she still is issue a issue a sincere issue issue a sincere people and this is the behavior I'm I'm addressing right now this is the behavior I'm addressing right now people cannot conduct themselves they owe this community a public apology if you could just wrap it up the the individuals who cannot contain themselves this is exactly 9:00 John if you could just wrap this up go ahead John go Ahad you just wrap it up I am I am I am wrapping it up but I will wait until the people who wish to shout down can behave themselves thank you rules policies John thank you for your uh thank you for your comments thank you very much thank you for your all of your service you're a human beatings and you would not treat it as such iMed okay I'm gonna go J I said 8 thanks everyone e