##VIDEO ID:swjh6TueSxU## oh you're not even give me a second folks I'm going Live on YouTube James if you're in there or just going Live on YouTube okay okay I have us live stream I have we got it on as co-hosts let just double CH and pleas good I'm going to call us to order 602 welcome everyone Rebel Hood school committee meeting on January I'm sorry December 19th um 2024 welcome um we are doing this a webinar format which is a little bit different so for the folks that are there on Zoom um you are there as attendees which is a little bit different um I will be in a minute or two or in a moment um opening up for public comment so if if you are on zoom and you'd like to make um a comment you need to raise your hand there should be a toggle switch that allows you to raise your hand and I can call no it is because we're live streaming so okay um and then for folks here in the audience if you would like to speak a public comment just if you wouldn't mind um putting your uh name on the list and um giving us your name when you you come forward thank you um okay so let's start with the Pledge of Allegiance I pledge aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to Republic stand one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice um do you have any Commendation um I have a couple um so first of all I wanted to offer accommodation to our Performing Arts staff um we just finished up a week of multiple performances that ranged from band Coral Orchestra as well as the veteran school did their um annual musical as well um they were all wonderful it was it was so great to see everybody coming together um in a very celebratory way um the students themselves played beautifully saying beautifully um and it really seeing you know the camaraderie and the Joy on the students faces um it kind of brought me back to what we often say is it's not every every kid doesn't run in the doors of the school for you know their language arts or their math or their science curriculum although some some definitely do some it's sports that get through the door some it's um plays and and others it's performing arts or Visual Arts and it's really a great way to see how different kids find their home in different places um so I just want to commend all the staff that worked um on those on on those Productions and to thank them and thank the students for performing so well um I also wanted to give accommodation to Alicia Benjamin um on our facilities meeting this week she had zoomed in and I had at you know when we were prepping the Tex for that I had said to her do you need me to give you rights so you can share a screen she said no I'm just here to show that the town supports the school and to show that we're all working together and I thought that was so great because it's a different message than we have received a different um points in the past if you go back several years and it really shows that we have gotten to a point where the towns and the schools have come together in a collaborative way and I'm just I'm really grateful for that um there will be more on those updates and actually a correction too that came out of that meeting um that we'll be we'll talk about later on but it was just it was just great to see that those two parties coming together at work so thank you you anybody else yes I'd like to I'd like to thank Allison MCM she's the person who's been making our school committee minutes and I think she's done a terrific job they the most comprehensive I've seen in years so I just wanted to thank her for all the hard working us wonderful I'd like to commend uh KJ Johnson our Meco director um K's done a wonderful job of uh making sure our Meco students are are feeling welcomed in our schools um we have you know some new new students this year and and students have been with us for a long time um you know she and I meet regularly and you know she set up a lunch in here at the high school with myself and Meco students this past week and um was really great to see the relationship she's built with the students and I think um she's working I think pretty well with all the uh principles around you know making sure that all of our POS Bas students are um getting attended to the in the way they need and I just thought I'd take a moment to thank her for that um I'll go on commentation I'm gonna move on to public comment I'm going to start with folks here in the room want to go ahead hey welcome good evening my name is Deborah Noah and my child is in the ninth grade at Marblehead high school as a proud member of the Jewish Community I am completely opposed to the possible idea of the scheduling of makeup days on Saturdays a Jewish fabbit in fact I find that the suggestion of having days made up on Saturdays due to the teacher strike effect ensive and should have never been of consideration just as Sundays were not offered as an option on the survey out of respect for the Christian Sabbath so should Saturdays never have been given as an even possible option for makeup days out of respect to all of us that are members of the Jewish community in addition to be an apparent of a melad school student I am also a Hebrew school teacher at sh haam which holds a Shabbat school every Saturday the purpose of having a Shabbat school is it allows for the strengthening of our Jewish Community where entire families can pray and learn together by assigning makeup days on Saturdays you will be directly impacting the Jewish life of our students families and community at shilat hyam and Beyond on another note I want to comment on a statement made by a member of the school committee at the prior school committee meeting it was stated that only families should have had the opportunity to complete the survey since it was not the families that created this situation I completely agree with this opinion and question the reason why this did not occur finally in summary Saturday The Jewish Sabbath our Shabbat should not be considered as a possible option to make up days that were lost due to a teacher's strength for it is the very center of Jewish life thank you apprciate thank you for coming in anybody else for public comment in the room I'm going to go check anyone attending as online participants or attendees I go ahead y okay y can you hear us I can yes can you hear me thank you so much should I speak a little bit louder great right there's perfect thank you okay welcome thank you my name is yel again and I have a son who is a sophomore in the middle school I'm sorry in the high school and a daughter in eighth grade at vet school um I am Jewish as many of you know um when thinking about making up the days I think that if we have to do it on a weekend then it should be distributed equally among the religions um Saturday is a day where our community gets together at synagogues in the morning we have B Mitzvah and Bar Mitzvah that are coming up in the springtime um if we do this four Saturdays in the next few months will cause I think a lot of stress in our community um and if again if it need be I think it would be best to do it equally I.E two days on Saturdays two two Saturdays and two Sundays that that way we don't have one group of of religious people in our town who were suffering you know due to um the makeup days um I do understand that we do have to sacrifice I mean there are going to be kids that are going to have cheer meets soccer tournaments on the weekends everybody might miss something um um but but putting the bulk of the people that are actually sacrificing their religious day on the Jewish people I don't think is something that we should doing Marblehead especially in our community that we have between 20 or 25% Jewish people in Marblehead um I also do want to take this time it was my understanding and maybe I'm wrong that the union has been pushing makeup days on Saturdays not only in Marblehead but also in other towns um there there has been an agenda from specific people in specifically the MTA and the unions to push anti-semitic agenda um to make it hard on Jewish teachers and now I guess they're doing it to Jewish students to participate um in either MTA um sessions or just really making it hard for Jewish teachers and Jewish students to um to take any action and I would encourage all the teachers that are listening to me to please in the next next few years few months please be active in the curriculum or anything that the union does per specifically about Judaism or Israel or anything like this because there is an agenda and it is our responsibility as parents and as teachers in our school to ensure that this does not infect our school so again if we have to do it on a weekend I think it would be best if we divide it equally among among the religions thank you thank you y'all appreciate it I also have now um Michael Schwarz I believe is Rabbi Schwarz is his hand up yes can you guys yes welcome Rabbi thank you um I just wanted to add in addition to the um the issues of principle um that make having um school on a Saturday problematic and I think those same issues the principal carry through to Sundays as well so I in that point I disagree with um y again um I just wanted to to also underscore one of the most moving Parts far what I could tell from the teachers about their concerns during the strike was their concern for individual students that no one should suffer from you know lack of uh um lack of teachers and and the things that they were fighting for and it seems to me on Saturdays the impact on individual students could be huge if you think of a 13-year-old uh who's going to be studying to become Bar Mitzvah needs to attend uh School needs to attend services and preparation and all their families and their friends who are also from school uh being unable to attend or the this poor kid would have to have their B Mito without all their friends I think would just be devastating for a child and for their family um moreover on that point too I think it's also U Back to the principled issue um a challenge that huge challenge that part of the um what makes our community is the informal getting together people and that happens on weekends whether it's soccer uh games uh whether it's Church whether it's synagogue whether it's something like a B mitv for where people come together and lastly uh back to uh you know questions of impact on individuals um I you guys are the expert so you would know better but it seems to me and having lived in a place where there is school six days a week that is debilitating on children week after week after week not to mention families um so that would be hugely challenging for all the students and I think they would be better served by having a shorter break uh in April or whatever the other options were adding days to the end of the year I know it's a very very complicated issue of managing the days um so hats off to you guys for being able to to work through that I know it's tough um but please uh consider all these principled issues as well as the impact on individual students as well thank you thank you thank you reab I think Jun welcome thank you very much I'm sorry we can can't hear her why did I I can could see her lips were moving okay sorry I was being helpful I you did you by thanks Miss not um my name is Jan I'm the director for the center uh for Jewish Education at congregation shirat hayam in swamp Scott I am however a Marblehead resident 40% of the students in my school which meet on Saturday mornings are Marblehead residents I really do understand this the difficult decisions that have to be made uh regarding our students education but I really strongly urge that we not do it at the expense of of the Jewish students of my students our supplemental religious goal is there for children to make Community to learn about their Heritage to attend uh services with their parents to celebrate together and as part of a very small minority it's really a critical part of their learning and growing and to lose that even for five weeks would absolutely Crush my program so I appre apprciate the opportunity to have to speak with you and to share My Views and I truly hope that we can come to some sort of solution that will benefit all of our students and not unduly impact one Community with another thank you thank you L thank you for coming just double check one more I I don't see any hands raised Stephen I don't see anybody okay thank you everyone appreciate everyone's comments and for taking the time to come out or to come online appreciate it very much um as you know this is an agenda item later on in the schedule um for tonight so we will be talking about that um uh let's move on to student representative elto welcome thank you hello these past few weeks of school have been hectic but good as we get back into the swing of things and get ready to go and break on Tuesday freshman seminars have been up and running and Junior parent/guardian night is Wednesday January 15th at 6 p.m. as Mrs fox said the music department had a very successful Winter concert last Thursday and I'd like to thank again um miss mikum Mr scolio and Miss Fus winter sports have been going very well girls basketball is three and0 boys hockey is two and0 track has had two meets so far and has another meet tonight against pbd and gymnastics has their first meet coming up right after break additionally girls basketball will be playing at TD Garden on January 11th at 11:30 which is very exciting and lastly Mr Wheeler has been organizing captains leadership councils during magic blocks which are excellent resources for sports captains to better their leadership skills thank you I question yeah um and if this is a question for Mr Wheeler let me know okay is there a central place where all the sporting events and events at the high school um are listed ahead of time like if someone in the community wanted to come and join in and watch something yeah I'm pretty sure there's Athletics calendar okay where there all the events are posted okay you can subscribe to that so we'll put it right on your there as well I just know it's not on the district calendar when I like click on it it doesn't L that over thank you so much thank you thank you I'm gonna move on to District updates superintendent B thank you madam chairwoman um District updates um I won't go through the Athletics I did a nice job of doing that so I can take that on my updates um firstly I would like to take this opportunity to thank the Marvel head Public Schools Community for their support over the past six months even though there have been a plethora of issues that have transpired in my short tenure I have felt welcomed by our staff parents and community members as well as supported by the committee I appreciate the hard work of our administrative team and our Educators and look forward to moving forward as an educational Community I just want to say thank you uh tonight you'll hear our mcast reporting from Miss Ferrera and our principles the presentations are meant to tring to light on the positive aspects while also identifying areas of growth and development that will need to be addressed via specific strategies and interventions so we look forward to hearing from um our admins in regard to mcast speaking of mcast although mcast will no longer be utilized as a graduation requirement it will still be administered and used for accountability reporting students who have passed the mcast this year including those who passed the retake that was just recently administered will have met the competency determination those who have not passed this year and for students in subsequent years but constitutes for fulfilling compensate determination becomes a local decision the dis district has to determine with a school committee approval what requirements students need to complete in order to demonstrate acquisition of identified skills competency determination is important to note that keeping the passing of the mcast in place as a way to demonstrate competency is not an option um work has already be begun to begin drafting a proposal and this discussion will be continued shortly with the committee so that requirements for demonstrating competency can be decided upon um we met with Julia myself Michelle Carlson and Lindsey Donaldson we've already met to come up with some thoughts about how we move forward in identifying the compeny determination and I'll leave it at that for now because it's going to be a bigger discussion we're going to have to have at one of the next two um go committee meetings um the discussion regarding makeup days will also take place in a little bit um but I did want to be clear regarding a rumor that is circulating there is no such thing is if there's less than 50% student attendance that make up they won't count that's floating around it's not true I've talked to desie directly Rob curtain who is the one that is the one that manages that they said it's not a thing so basically any of the instructional days that we're making up count it is the mandated one out of the mandated 180 days so you know we expect staff students to be here for the instruction um on those days uh they're having some questions about the roof leaks here at the high school um with the excess and we're going to talk a little bit about this later on we do an update um from the subcommittee I believe um but with the excessive rain and the and the driving Winds of the storm um this past this past week um some of the areas that have been already been identified have been exacerbated and some new areas have have appeared with the with the driving rain and the the way the the water gets pushed around um you know we know that the the roof is failing and and we're aware of that our facility and maintenance workers um address the leaks as do our roofing company when the leaks appear here so there's areas where we might have to cut out some tiles or some um you know pieces of the roof to make sure that the water is draining we get in there and dry out the areas so we don't have other issues and they also get up there and they patch the roof um and and the roof and covery comes in in patches where we you know are our maintenance and facil people can and we'll continue to remediate those trouble spots and do so in ongoing manner as we move forward with the hope for the roof roof replacement um in Fairly short order um I will do a broader update hopefully in January but I thought it was important to let folks know that the independent investigation into allegations of anti-Semitism is still taking place um I did a brief update early on um there have been many people that have been interviewed and many more people that have been um identified as needing to be interviewed throughout the investigation I've been in constant contact with Allison Kirker who was doing the investigation for the district um as she navigates current and former staff members in their interviews um it's it's become a you know can you you know e introduce me to this person so I can touch Bas with them and then follow up with them and have the interview some folks did um um decide to have lawyers present which always exacerbates the situation elongates the process and I just want to share that um because it's important that folks know that it's still it's still in process it's not something that has fallen off the off the burner in any way shape or form so due diligence is the primary factor in the length of time that's it's taking and for some of those reasons I just mentioned um and F almost finally there is a narrative that people do not want to come to Marblehead Public Schools so I felt it prudent to share how we are doing with hiring staff whereas we did have a significant amount of openings to start the air um I came on board on July one as did a uh a large amount of our admin team and um to date we've hired 94 staff that's 94 staff since July one which I think is pretty impressive um that's uh including six just prior to during and since the strike so um I just share that because I think it's important to know that people still want to come here and work in B ahead people still understand the good education that is happening in our schools and the Educators that are passionate about the education and our administrative team that are making sure that their kids are being um accounted for and make sure that their their education is is is uh is up this is up the par so I just want to share that um there is a shortage of teachers administrators everywhere so the previous numbers applicants for open positions is no longer reasonable barometer um for present and subsequent numbers of applicants for vacancies there's a lot of conversation about oh we used to get a bunch of bunch of applicants that's not happening anywhere so what we do is we look to see who are the right people to fit the positions we have open and we do that to the best of our abilities so we have the right people in the classrooms and then in in the schools to serve our children I just wanted to share that I thought that was important and finally I'd like to take a moment to wish our community a happy healthy and safe holiday season thank you take care well joh app what a good information thanks um okay I'm going to move on to our consent agenda consent action and agenda items the first is our schedule bills can we Jen could I just ask one interject one thing we're gonna make sure to update the calendar to John right the one that's online and and maybe send that out as an attachment after V tonight yeah after this evening once it's voted on by the school committee my my um plan is to send out an updated um email to both staff and parents and community members around what the decision is um what the days makeup days look like uh what the attendance issues are and then um also an updated calendar that we need to we just need to update one more time based upon tonight's discussions that is my plan and that either go out tomorrow or Monday that's yeah okay great um so I'll move on to the uh schedule bills I'm looking for a motion to approve the scheduled bills that were in that was in your um Drive um it shows a total of $535,500 4 good uh the next item we have is the NorthShore collaborative annual plan approval also was in your drive um John I don't know if you want to take a quick second yeah I could take very briefly so so we belong to north um short educational Consortium um and as as such same as an educational collaborative so they need to make sure that our school committee as a member of the Consortium um votes on the annual report now they're always a year behind so this is the 2023 24 annual report I shared that in the drive um it just really goes through it talks about um the different programming and their their um where they are with their funding and and their and their financial updates um I I'm a part of the board I I meet with the um NC board um we've gone through this uh this report several times uh they're doing some Capital Improvements and things that are part of the part of um in the report everything looks really uh really great uh Fran is uh the the ex director is great um she's been doing it for a long time and I'm really happy with uh you know the way that neck um serves the communities that they serve so you know I can go through specifics if you want but it's just really it's really more that by regulation we have to vote it here at the sto I have a quick question just because we are approving this document as a whole and um I just want to confirm that any images were opid and that they don't violate anybody's bur is is there our special educ yes so so typically what happens is um when when uh consortiums and educational collaborators put pictures in there they're not always the kids from the Consortium so that sometimes random okay so and and if they're not stock photos they absolutely have I just wanted to make sure before we approve no it's it's definitely okay probably either a combination of both or one or the there definitely sense because I had that same question okay and do we want to mention just in general just for the for the public um consumption the NorthShore education Consortium is um yeah so so they so they're yeah so they're basically an education collaborative they provide um services for students who have special education needs that may be greater than what we might be able to provide within our school district at whatever grade level for a plethora reason so um they generally most consortiums or collaboratives have specific programming for children who may you know have have just we've exhausted every option that we can within the district and the best uh educational placement for them would be within the Consortium uh based upon their you know the way they staff things differently to to a degree um the expertise level that they have and the resources they have a lot of times it's like kind of a level up from um from public school um programming but um you know that that's why kids get to the Consortium uh but you know and then and then what happens is as soon as they step in the doors of the Consortium the plan is always to get them back into the district so we we put things into place to say like okay we're we're you're taking care of the child you're making sure the education leads are being met but we're also working to get them back into the child's District like right away it's kind of part of the you know intake to to kind of get them back to their least restrictive environment that makes sense yeah and the location looks like there's a couple of locations for their program the main one that I know I'm familiar with is the one in Beverly and this one serves most of the communities on the North Shore yes the CL in Essex County or students in Essex County so I think it's important the actual report which is actually quite good yeah I read as I read through it the other day um I suggest folks take a look when you get a chance it will be available on our package of information just to see you know the programs that are available um and um and it does include the budget the cost Associated because we are one of the communities that participates and inprs yeah and and if you do go look at the report again it's from 2324 so the name names that may be in there like my name's not in there because I wasn't but there's other names that are not accurate now but other than that all the numbers are solid so I am looking for um a motion to approve the NorthShore uh Consortium annual plan approval norshore cab cons Northshore educational Consortium okay annual plan approval I'm looking for motion so a second second Brian okay um any other discussion comments questions concerns okay I'm going to do a roll call I'm going to start with you Allison in favor Brian Oda in favor Sarah Fox in favor Jen Cher in favor so that forward to zero thank you okay we're going to move on to the school committee communication and discussion items um one question I want to just throw out to the committee for your consideration um we do have both the mcast and the fin fy2 Financial update coming up is the first two items um and then Communications um presentation you given some of the public comment I didn't know if it would perhaps be the will of the committee to move the discussion of the school calendar up to this point in the agenda or would you like us to continue I would like to see de andf which all pertain to the calendar and the change in days mve to now so that um anybody is um here for that or whatever if they have other things they need to get Brian your thoughts by Allison yeah that's fine okay great thank you appreciate that appreciate the consideration of the committee so let's move um John we're gonna just we'll cover those items and we go back that's fine I just yeah I just be mindful of everybody but yeah because I think I think this okay that's fine so um quickly um or not quickly but Allison you had um uh very kindly gone forward and helped organize on the survey of parents and staff on the um the makeup days for the school calendar did you want to go through that for with us I know we have a appreciate that um do you want me to share my screen because I did update one slide just yeah you should be able to share your screen I just put a little bit more detail on one slide yeah I don't we have it so we need to have yours anyway oh it's on the drive I think it's in the pack it should be in the packet too okay there we go do I have the ability share you are a co-host do it allow you to share screen oh there it is okay came up it wasn't there before but it's there now all that matters okay tell me when you can see my screen okay I will I can go into presenter mode um Google Slides is like the worst so is that enough for you guys yeah or you can go a slideshow at the top there probably better oh yeah I just hate how do I this one I hate Google Slides it's terrible um okay so first of all thank you to everybody um that completed the survey we we had a really really great response rate we had over 1400 parents and over 300 staff um I'm going to address some of the comments that I've seen I tried to address as many as I could online but I'll address some of the ones from um from tonight as well so the the purpose of the survey of course is because the pressures and difficulties from the strike weigh heavily on our families and working with our families as we make important decisions is critical um we recognize that all of these options present challenges none of them um are are good for anybody um they are a requirement um we did try to see if they could be waved made up remotely or any other option um as superintendent Robo mentioned and they were all denied so taking the temperature of our parent community and understanding where their priorities were was important to the success um but you know I did agree that it would be a parental focused survey um our superintendent wanted to make sure we offered to the um to the staff as well so we did have a separate link for that so those pieces of data are separate um and you'll you'll see that in a minute um some important reminders again these are all things that we've talked about but I just think it's important because the questions keep coming up I keep seeing a lot of the same questions on social media or I keep you know getting questioned um when I'm out and about or through phone calls or what have you on things um we do have to have 180 days which means adding time onto our existing school days is not an option all the requests to wave Etc rejected 11 days was how long the strike lasted we voted to swap a PD day um and due to the limited amount of makeup options upcoming holiday breaks um and you know kind of the emergency of getting back our on the books to meet desie requirements we voted to add 1223 as a full day um and February break uh which left us with five additional days that we needed to make sure to make up the state statute requires that high school graduation be no more than 12 days prior to the last day of school so some of the you know um suggested makeup um options could potentially affect that and obviously if we have any snow days that's going to affect um things and we'll have to revote that as well the last day of school that we can utilize for 2425 is June 30th um and all MPS schools just to be clear will adhere to the same schedule we did ask the question um you know just to see whether or not the data was dramatically different it really was um so here are the survey results for the parent responses um it was 1423 when I made this there was one other one that that came in so 1424 but um it was pretty clear that the first choice is April vacation for our parents um again I want to stress that all of these options are gut-wrenching and heartbreaking for everybody involved um but it's very clear you know more than you know 10% difference in that um almost 10% difference I should say from um April vacation to June with Saturdays definitely taking a dramatic um third choice um personally I didn't want to include Saturdays either um and it was asked to include it so um I I support not having Saturdays or Sundays as an option um and then for the staff it actually worked out to be kind of the exact opposite um their first choice was Saturday at 44% um their second choice was June just like ours at 43 and their um their third choice was April vacation it's kind of remarkable to see that they were exactly the opposite um and again these are this is all online and and folks can go ahead and um look at these and look at the pie charts on it um seeing the comparison um you can see 620 people so 43% sent um from a parent perspective we're looking at April vacation second came in somewhat close um not entirely though still there's still a good 8% difference there and then obviously The Saturdays being so low and then you can see the reverse um for with 140 um over twice as many people teachers wanted staff I should say wanted Sal um Saturdays instead of April vacation so um that was somewhat interesting as well so it's clear April is the First Choice um from a parent perspective one thing we had kind of been talking about is the potential of adding one more day in June and taking three extra days um from April vacation so instead of taking just June 23rd we could take June 23rd and 24th and then give folks a 4day April Break um I want to also kind of address one thing that you know we got a bunch of emails on as well is you know why were there only these options um we wanted the the survey to be very simple we didn't want it to end up being laborious with all 800 concoctions of combinations that you can make up um because we wanted to it to be very clear and concise which I think it is with with what our parents want here um in order to make up these days um so any questions thank you Alison that appreciate your hard work I have a question for either John or Michelle Carlson can someone tell me the day of graduation the six the six um I did ask that question okay and what day is this sound like a crazy question but what day is the prom scheduled for the senior prom in the awards thing and Michelle you know prom War night it's usually that week yeah because I'm just trying to not manipulate the the seniors I yeah I asked that exact question um already to John and from John's um response to me you know before bringing it up to the larger group um was that it should be the 24th should be the drop dead date before we have to move anything yeah so that would move make it so that graduation safe but would we be sending kids to the prom and making them come to school to they're done yeah I know that's what I mean like if we start moving stuff because I'm counting back 12 days from the 24 and I'm getting a [Music] so 12 so they would have to come to school in the F the day before graduation or at least in the fourth no graduation can't be more than 12 days before the their last day of school awesome their last day of Cil graduation it it just dessie says graduation okay okay because I thought we gave them their last day a couple days before graduation no their last day is week before yeah okay yeah they desie told me it was the graduation date not like yep yeah so the 24th of June that is if yeah if calculations is correct we could do 23rd 24th right have to graduation okay we wouldn't even have had this profession if it was not okay still be able to steal day like one last day as long as desie told you that I had pulled um the statute Mass General law and it had said this last day of school for senior he said that 12 days graduation can be know only 12 days before last day of school I just wanted to make sure we weren't sending them and and can I just make one other comment if if folks don't mind so the other thing is is snow days so if if there's snow days right um and there's we're not dealing with makeup days say there's a ton of snow days U that's a that's a time when you could have a waiver from Massachusetts um Elementary secondary education um because I know that came up can we wave days we not if it's snow days or emergency you can apply for waiver but because these are days making up for a strike they will not allow it so if whatever we decide tonight for the makeup days that's what we do and then if there's extra snow days we have to look at how we how we address those so we if we only have three days left at the end we have to use those if there's more snow days at the back of into April vacation so I just want to make sure that Bel know that if we have an extraordinary amount of snow we have a whole lot of conversation at the end so I'm not going to what that doesn't happen but I just want to make sure that people understand there could be another conversation if a ton of stuff any um else question okay um Alison did you have any questions or no no just um from from walking through it with John I just think that it would you know um and I think we talked about it in our um agenda meeting as well I just think it's it would be great to give them that four days in April ail baring any unforeseen blizzards so that looks like we be our discussion point would be talking about taking April 23rd 24th and 25th June 23rd and 24th yep that's the motion yeah that preserves are there more questions do you want me to make a motion and then we can talk about it sure y uh I I don't know if I'm going to do this right probably not but Sarah you can correct me I make a motion to um in order to vote for the additional 5 days that we need that we take April 23rd 24th 25th June 23rd and June 24th as makeup days okay um so we can discuss it second it second second okay so Alis made a motion Sarah second okay now discussing so just I don't um I'll check my calendar on my phone I want to make sure there are no religious holidays on those days um well I think if there were we would have already blocked off the 20th of April but Friday will I just wanted to make which I think is a yeah Easter's before Easter's the Sunday before a break do that with me Passover starts the 12 not I just want to make sure that we're not we don't usually have school we don't have Passover off though well I want to make sure that I'm being kind all religious yeah we look I mean we looked at that yeah so I just double checked so we're good on that um I mean I like the idea of allowing for people to have that 4 Day weekend in April it's a really really long stretch for folks um we just need to be aware if we if we have uh s days that that Tuesday will be the first thing that's will probably go after the Tuesday vable rate yes yes um and that will push the last staff day to June 25th sow days okay yeah with the configuration you just mention you last um Brian do you have any I just want to make a couple of quick comments first I appreciate the folks that came took the time out to come in person tonight Janice I we had had some emails earlier today Rabbi was on the phone um and I just I appreciate the comments and you know for me and again I'm speaking only for myself um I felt very strongly that The Saturdays would not be a viable consideration um and you know we did actually here from clergy um in the form of an email came to the superintendent school committee from several of the local rabbis which is much appreciated and the point was made and and I think also miss Noah made it as well um that Sunday wasn't considered right and for you know whatever reasons you know Sunday is sort of the de facto um Sabbath for other for Christians you know um in our country and in the world and that um it was given our community we have here and then I think very tried to be very respectful of our Jewish Community um that that The Saturdays really were not in my opinion I was not going to consider so I just wanted to neither was I and my original version of the survey did not include it um so for me I I don't support any day in the weekend for a multitude of region reasons um the religious observances are one um they're also for particularly for our students going six days in a row particularly our younger ones who you know quite often are toast on Friday afternoon by the time you get them home um it's a lot they really need those two days to to recharge to be with family to to you know engage with our community and then for fiscal reasons also um our staff our custodial staff our Administrative Assistant staff they're not scheduled on Saturday and Sunday when we do have our custodial staff come in for events that cost is offset by rental fees that pay for that so we we would be incurring another cost as well um to pay these individuals which is not in our budget um so the nothing there was nothing making sense um for the weekend that showed that it was a benefit to our community at all um so you you know I think what was hard is when people start to grasp at straws trying to make sense of how we can make these days up um we you know people can convince themselves for different reasons this one fits better in my life or this one fits better um this is this is a hardship for everyone involved and there is no perfect answer and I think we just have to get um as close to tolerable as we can and I think what we have on the table right there now of April 23rd 24th 25th and June 23rd and 24th is probably as good as we're going to be able to accomplish um the other another really big deal for me and I'm I want to give the kids a four-day weekend in April but I'm having a very hard time with adding anything in June for our students at the high school that are taking AP classes because we have a later starts then other communities on the national level um they're they're testing again on a test with some students who start in August early August some of them so we've heard for many years years from parents that are saying um not just in the state but on a national level there's several curriculum days behind their peers uh that are taking this so to to take more curriculum delivery days away from them and add them at the end puts them further behind when they take those um National UNS so that those June days are weighing on me but I I think the kids in the families need to at least build and Becky I saw your question under the Q&A thing which I think is so cool I didn't know as a thing um so for December break we did take the 23rd back um so the 23rd is is still a full school day that's we voted on that last in our last meeting okay um if there's no further deliberation I'm going to call for a vote Al I'm gon to call you first bison in favor ran Oda in favor SAR in favor Jen shner in favor more to zero that joh we're all set with that I'm sorry just making sure that Julie update that okay and then I'm going to move back to the middle one which was our School attendance policy which was also part of this discussion as well um and this had come up um in just general discussion in the last school committee meeting about how attendance will be handled um during or because of these makeup days we've had actually a number of parents um reaching out to us bya email and phone um and text um concerned about attendance so uh I just want to open that up to the committee to deliberate John I don't know if you have any comments you want to make I think committee members have some feelings about this I I will Aces to the comme members feelings thank you anything this one what Gap thend this rate if they miss school because of scheduled vacation will that count against them will be an excuse absence or not well that's what we're discussing um make any changes because that is a school committee decision in terms of the policy around attend but it's just for this particular Year yes yes yes for those particular needs I would like to suspend the attendance policy for this calendar year I think it's been um an anomaly of a year um I think everyone can agree to that um I think that this is going to be a very long stretch for people even if you have children that don't have any special need um this is a very very long stretch for folks and I think given you know how we got here I have a very hard time holding students feet to the fire and families feed to the fire for showing up and um and coming every day when um when we're in this situation because of an illegal strike and I I think that we need to extend the grace to the families and students for this year again it's an anomaly I'm not I'm not by any means suggesting that we get rid of our attendance policy long term but I think we have to allow these families to decide when their kids need a break because that that span of four months without um an extended break they're going to need something and um whether we assign it that though there's 11 days that can be floating EXC excused if needed I don't know how we how we monitor that that becomes a little cumbersome or if we excuse it as a whole but I think that we're going to have to understand that students are going to need possibly some type of Break um and that if there's um you know one thing that might come out of this this year is um you know for for not every family um parents schedule and and whatnot lines up to take those breaks that maybe families can take a few days this year to regroup um off Cycles we will um so that you know everyone may be in in opposition to that but I think we should um suspend the attendance policy for the remainder of the year um nope I don't have we've don't have open comment right now Allison do you have any thoughts I mean I definitely think it should be way without question I think it it it should be waved for this year okay um I don't need to I mean Sarah listed the Myriad of reasons I don't need to to relist them and make the meeting longer I I know I feel strongly education is important um I am hopeful people aren't going to take advantage of it but I do think that it is going to be a long cold hard winter even if we don't have seven feet of snow and it is maybe one of the small things that we can do for our families um to give back a little bit okay I I I want to just make sure that we understand that there are still laws there are still rules as far as what constitutes excessive attent we're not talking that you can just not show up for school and it's excuse forever more there's still rules about truancy there are still rules about um what is defined uh as excessive yeah so that that was kind of where I was gonna start the conversation in regards to that because if I understand that I totally understand where the committee is coming from I think operationally we just say you're absolved from attendance for the rest of the year we will have treny issues more than we already do um our accountability to the state is going to be in the in the toilet one um two I don't know that that's in my humble opinion as an educator I don't know if that's the best way to address it I I think that maybe as a suggestion that for the 10 days we need to make up maybe we absolve a tennis policy for those days maybe that's a maybe that's a consideration the um committee has I just I think you're giving cart blanch to to kids and I understand why but C Blan kids to not come to school when we already have a lot of attendance issues I mean our our uh counselors and administrators are fighting to get a lot of kids to school in general and if they hear that message saying yeah we really don't have to come to school because it's been yeah that's not message exactly that will exact I'm sorry to interrup that will be the message that they hear so just I just have to say it out loud but it's up to you the things that you would be taking as breaks are can be so so my point is um that this was a lose lose for our community there's there's no way to to sugarcoat that this was a massive lose lose if there's one potential wian we can give is that maybe for a family that um who whose parents may work work in a sector that they don't get those days off instead of taking the you know their four days at February maybe they can take their four days at a time their family could could go somewhere together so I'm not saying there's no attendance policy but I have a hard time saying the four days and February excuse but not any other four days I'm not saying all the days of the year are excus but but quite frankly we absolved a lot of behavior Behavior of adults and we we we need to we need to allow some Grace to I just I just want to be mindful of the fall out of a decision because there will be there will be but the the treny rules and the letters we send home that say you have you have this many absences those would all of that stuff would still happen but we as a district believe school is the best place for our students right we want our students in school we that we can support them best when they're in front of us so if we are making decisions Beyond like attendance policy then I just don't want that to contradict the message that we're just about to send with our incast presentation on how much value we're placing on the academic success and how much we're doing to support them when they're in school we understand that but the actions of 450 adults that them every day contradicted that message I'm putting the students first on this one and I understand that's why I I'm making this policy is that our students need may need a break through this um and have to go from January to may may um suggestion um so one thing that we could consider in this motion is to John's point is that the days are the makeup J days that that the attendance policy would not be those would be considered excused absence or I don't know how we would Define that in the case of those 10 days um and that maybe we find a way before the next meeting that we can try to operationalize how we could possibly do this whether this is something on a you know case-by case basis you know if I mean I'm just suggesting this Sarah um you know that if that a family feels that they need to you know this child needs a break that they would have a conversation with their administrator um or appeal to the superintendent yeah and think I think I think having some I mean I would I would feel better at least hearing from the administrators around what because I just want to make sure that we're not make a decision that's impacting their day-to-day operations in a way that we haven't thought of yet and I want to make sure it would be nice to have that be able to have a conversation with everybody and say what what impact does this have in your school in general day-to-day and who's monitoring who's managing it who's tracking the ks down and who's actually true and who's not true becomes even more of a challenge than it already is so I just I throw that just because I think I understand thought process I just think there is that like I'd like to at least have opportunity to talk to the that's a it's up to you current policy if or our handbook our current handbook dat at the high level if you miss more than three days per quarter excused or unexcused you're not eligible for credit so even if we excuse these absences those students will be ineligible for credit one of the things I have a problem with is you go beyond the 10 days and say if you're feeling your child needs a break give them the break that means that teachers also have to figure out how to cover those kids when they're gone when they come back yeah are they going to make up the work that's more work for the teachers I I think that it's I me 10 days for the that we scheduled is it if they're going to have a vacation that's when they take it it's excuse however if you want to give some other break arbitrarily picked out of the sky I don't think we can do that because people with chronic absentee rates will take advantage I guarantee you Allison I mean they're gonna take advantage of it anyway I don't I don't think that that matters at all and I think that that that additional work unfortunately is is you know a repercussion from the strike so it's that that's why it's ultimately all happening while we're here having these discussions um a piece of this too is that during these makeup days during February or December 23rd the February break the April days that I don't know if it we need to memorialize it in a policy but a temporary onee policy or whatever but no assessments should be given during those days um and all work including um lectures and slide decks should be available on Google classroom or whatever platform is being used and all work can be made up yeah because we can't have assessments happening can I just can I just come in I think that's operational attendance polies Poli the rest of the operational stuff stuff that I can work out with the principles so I agree but I don't think we need to make we had Outreach from I out from three parents saying that that's fine assessments next week on the 23rd I I think we just need to be mindful of when those I think we need to be mindful of when they are based upon when the kids are in school and how we operationalize that for sure I just think I don't think that don't take this wrong I don't think that's schol perview to to dictate the assessments piece I certainly have those conversations think they're important and I would agree that we should have assessments that just make sure the tenance Poli is absolutely I don't think EST any assessments that don't mean that y fresh way I just want to I mean any ultimately any assessments or tests should be done on original calendar days I I I agree it's operational but that it would be disappointing if a decision was made or approved and okay otherwise and I and I think honestly I think we have professionals here that will understand that and not say well you know okay well you didn't come in that day you got to miss the assessment out of that I think I think we have those conversations I think they we might I just how I feel okay so don't believe me just a discussion on attend so um does anyone want to make I'm happy to but does anyone want to make a motion I think what I I was remiss I should have made the motion instead of the statement as we discussed so the motion would have been to dismiss the attendance policy for the remainder of the 24 would have been second or are you making a motion or not I made the motion you made the motion okay second right so this is the discussion J Sarah just does not supersede state law or any other mandates for these what was that what was the decision we Haven yet we haven't made the decision we we have to make the motion and then the second and then continue the discuss I think it's the just couldn't motion the motion was to suspend this attendance policy for the remainder of the year but that does not supersede state law or any other guidelines from Desy any other discussion all right um so that includes um the makeup days as well as my only concern is how we are operations to to J point is how we are operationalizing this so if we vote to approve this I I think John we're going to need to come back and have um an explanation on how this is going to be operation yeah and I think there's you know at the high school level I think there's some different considerations that we can work through which is one of my original conversations is I think at the high school there's some ways that we can kind of make sure that the students aren't extra affected by AB so her team can through so so again I'd like to have that depth conversation first I can speak intelligently to where I think there's a little bit of wiggle room where we can do some stuff around the absences um clearly at the other levels it's it's different it's not affecting credits it's not affecting you know Athletics and activities are just these so it's not it's really a lot of it has you can amend um do you want to amend it with with a caveat that in in our first meeting in or second meeting in January I don't know how long that'll take John I want to be mindful of Break um for you and your team as well that you will come back with a plan on how that is operationalized on January not you're not here then Alison I think what I what I would like to consider is an amendment to um to have the makeup days the the attendance policy relax for the makeup days and that the superintendent come back at the first meeting in January with the recommendation for how we can adjust the remainder of the year to families to accommodate the hardship that this has placed and that we could then vote toand the relaxing of the attendance policy at that point so what is your Amendment so I'm amending the motion to include the relaxing of attendance policy for the makeup days alone including Monday the 23rd of December the other days that we have voted um to relax the attendance policy and then to have the superintendent come back in January with a recommendation on how we can meet the expectation of relaxing attendance oper for the rest of the have a second okay so the motion is on the that Sarah's original motion I'm G to call for a vote ran Oda not in favor Sarah Fox we can get a second on your Amendment no I can I can second your Amendment I'll second your Amendment second your Amendment you're not Sarah Allison just amended it Allison just second my Amendment thank you Allison okay so that uh then but I really like I this needs to be a PRI operationalizing that is a priority for me so that supersedes the motion the amendment is on the table so I'm going to call for a vote for the amendment what's on the amendment again so the amendment is I know this is I'm sorry Ryan this is everyone this is complicated so the amendment is that we are voting to approve the relaxation relaxing the attendant policy for the makeup days that we have voted the 10 days the 10 days beginning Monday suspending suspending it on those days and at our January next January meeting um superintendent Robo will come back with a recommendation to us on how we can oper how he can operationalize the relaxing of attendance policy for the remainder of the year so would you discuss it still I have a concern about that putting that onus on the superintendent he's going to have to try to justify why somebody's 3 extra is not the same as somebody who's going to den die I think I think that's just an unver that he shouldn't have to take you either excuse the 10 days or you don't you know what I mean it can't we we are the days Matrix it says this parents request for a vacation is valid versus this one that is not I think is is almost impossible for you to put together so don't think and I want that's what we're asking him to do we're asking him to come back after conferring with this Administration administrators and recommend to us how that could POS how that could happen operationally think that the motion is actually simpler I think the motion is to suspend the attendance policy on December 23rd February 18th 19th 20th 21st April 23rd 24th and 25th and junee 23rd and 24th this is it 10 days yes we already Yes suspending the that's fine but I don't understand the second piece that was just a narrative it wasn't part of the motion well right it it what's an expectation though it may have John come back and provide options to us if it's the will of the committee to consider additionally relaxation but right now yes technically that is the days F okay I'm going to call for a vote then Brian Oda in favor Sarah Fox in favor Alison Taylor in favor Jen Schaffner in favor um and when you report back to us can you report back in those feeds will have no bearing on credit yes no I appreciate I appreciate the allowance for me having that conversation I just want to make sure all bases are covered and um one one more thing is we were remiss in not fixing this um so I make a motion to make um June 20th a full day of school currently listed as a half day because it's in the middle of all this could we please move that to the last day yeah we shift yes that June 20th will be a full day and June 24th will be a half day students so my motion is to make June 20th full day for students in June 24th a half day for students um have a second second second Alison too okay any discussion I'm gonna call for a vote Allison Taylor in favor ran Oda in favor s fox in favor Jen chaer in favor four to zero great and I just want to apologize to that housekeeping PE we really probably should done it's too soon for child care to do it for this coming Monday but barely should have made this coming Monday and day as well because the 23rd has always been a half day um for us but for housekeeping purposes we're just too late so I apologize all right so I appreciate everyone's um allowing us to move that out of um out of order and so now we're going to go back to the MC stre group wonderful thank you I'm GNA share my screen thank you first thank you for the opportunity to present um tonight we have several presentations around the mcast and data analysis for the marble Hood Public Schools um thank you to John and our school leaders and our instructional coaches for their feedback and contributions to the presentation um I will kick it off for us and then we will be hearing um specific details from our school uh leaders um I just want to say thank you to the school committee for your commitment to our students and their achievement as well so we're going to begin with the overview so the Massachusetts comprehensive assessment system it's one data point that provides our Educators and administrators insight into student performance on a yearly basis analyzing this data helps our Educators create effective strategies to support our students mcast data indicates um from the previous spring indicates a consistent performance level among students reflecting our commitment to their education and we do see um and you'll see in our presentations this evening we have strengths we want to celebrate and areas in need of improvement that will be addressed through our mtss that's our multi-tiered systems of support so the following slides are um Again full District right from the office of teaching learning looking at it as a whole District that's grades 3 through 10 um and looking at the mcast achievement levels and scale scores and that tells us how well our students mastered those grade level standards in last year taking a look first at our English language arts data overall we had an average of 60% of our students meeting an exceeding proficiency standards this is in the spring of 20124 that's 18% higher than the state average our average scale scool um across the whole District remain pretty steady from the previous year and is consistently above the state level um we scored in the average moderate and average growth range um for our Ela um and we want to uh note that this is U momentum that we it's we're maintaining momentum Julia do you want questions dur or at the what do you prefer I'm open either if I could just finish the slide like you know what I'm saying and then absolutely thank you yeah um so we have we're in multiple years of implementation of high quality instructional materials in curriculum that is that tier one that is what we truly believe is making a difference and going to continue to make a difference for our students um again that high quality instruct materials that we've adopted over the last few years so there's a few areas of concern here I well I see that we're above the state average with our socioeconomic standard um in knowing that we have a lower population of what's called at risk due to that we should be exceeding um just from from a demographics point of view we should be exceeding in that fourth grade that one particularly is a concern to me because what it says is the majority 52% of our students are not meeting or are part only partially meeting Ela um and you see that gap between where we are in state average is is the most minimal there of the whole area and so as we go through um any information you can give about how we're targeting particularly that area um as far as this slide goes will be helpful and I just want to give kudos to the eth grade ELA because that is the biggest Delta you see where we're the furthest from the state average furthest ahead from the state average um so if you just look at it from that graph Point um it looks like the next biggest area that we're ahead is the third grade if this graphic is you know but that that eighth grade is pretty substantial as far as how far we're ahead of the state I mean the State Bar is pretty low I don't it think it's this just is so concerning J can I just get clarification these these this paragraph is inclusive of all students in Marblehead that took the mcast so sub subset groups are included in this general education not our our students that would u in their IEP qualify for the alternative incast assessment this is all students took theast assessment so but there are subgroups it right that this students are interest this includes our high need students and we'll get to that and the oh I'm sorry I yeah all right moving into Matt um what we have here is we have grown to an uh 21% above State average this is an upward trend for us now four years into a evidence-based math curriculum adoption and um that stands Ka and we have invested in the professional development and curriculum in our high school algebra and geometry courses um additionally I'd like to show like highlight that we are seeing growth um in cohort so we break down the data we're looking at it from year to year we are seeing a lot of growth amongst our our cohorts um in which we're we're very proud of there so just in noting Trends again here it's still that four five6 grouping that seems to be where we are the closest to the state average um so I'm assuming you'll have some information how we're going to Target that but that that seems to be a trend in both math and Ela those are the areas where that Delta isn't as big as the other and again we're seeing in the eth grade it's the biggest delt between where we are ahead and state of average so there's definitely a trend here something's happening in the eighth grade and then something's not happening I think fourth fifth sixth and seventh would be K12 3 4 which would be like critical years for reading and math fundamentals and that was covid for those and that may be it but but but that would affect the state average everywhere what I'm talking about is the Delta of the areas where that eighth grade is we're the furthest surpassing the state a average on both the ELA and the math and I'm more talking about where we're surpass surpassing the state average because the state average will normalize kind of those Co years but four five and six for both the ELA and the math is when we were the closest to the state average therefore we're not as per outperforming it as as much as we are say at the eth grade level I just think that the state average is so low it's not you know only 52% of fifth grade is meeting for math that is it's not okay I just want to add anecdotally and I'm gonna talk more about the interventions and the system that we have in place through the ntss but I was actually with our fifth grade math PLC yesterday and our teachers know the standards inside and out they could probably memorize them and share them in their sleep with you um you know mcast is a moving Target sometimes there's different questions and stuff like that so we' want to keep that in mind um but that last year was our first year of having the dedic ated math instructional coach that we utilize utilize side one funding for um at Village school and I do feel that we're going to continue to see an upward Trend as that continues to um some great progress where do where do will there be there may be a slide coming up on this on where our Trends are from last year and this and three years prior if me five slides okay okay I'll go all right in our science data so in Marvel head in across the state we have Fifth eth and 10th graders taking science um on average 18% above the state average we are this is our re review year actually for science so we're engaging in a curriculum review um and we wanted to share that um we have done a lot of professional development leading up to our curriculum review year for Science and the Technology and Engineering standards um because Fifth and eth grade it was a new test it was a pilot um they're going to Pilot again this year and the n it becomes fully in place the following year so I do want to show that we are really not comparing our science data in fifth and eth grade from previous year because it was a new test this year um I want to highlight um each year the department of Elementary and secondary education desie they use a rubric to score districts and um I wanted to highlight our our schools in the district so across the board the district um we're making as you can see in the middle column we're making substantial progress towards our targets the great news is we are as a district not requiring Assistance or intervention you can see going down in the middle column the um lria and Joseph Brown School 88% meeting or exceeding targets Glover School 47 moderate progress towards targets Village School 54% substantial progress Marvel head veterans Middle School 87% meeting or exceeding and Marvel head high school 68% and that's substantial progress towards targets however we did have um a we are in the category and this is important for the school committee to know um we are requiring Assistance or intervention at the high school and it's specifically because we had a l participation in our Hispanic and Latino rate of taking incast are they acting out um it's it's a very small population that is in the 10th grade um so there's a variety of reasons okay um they just don't take yeah so I'm talking like it could be one or two or three you know I mean it's a very small and if you don't me that that be they drop you into that category are we looking here at the Glover school too because the other areas are substantial meeting progress substantial meeting I see the issue there that you're talking about the high school but at the Glover School says moderate progress I mean it is you know progress but it's not what we're seeing in the other categories such as substantial or meeting yeah and so what they do is there's a whole rubric behind it and it kind of factors into many things one of them which is growth um which doesn't have that ability to show growth because they only test in the third grade um attendance um and then eel our English Learners um proficiency on the access test so for Glover there's not as many as um like data sources for the accountability as it would be through high school well but the brown school's at 88% so correct absolutely I mean they're exceeding Target so it's the same demographic if they can do it so thank you for bringing that up um as we were just speaking of attendance this is a really big Focus for us um and a credit to our School principles who um really made a push last year I had to I happen to be at the open houses and seen in the newsletter and I really appreciate the principal's efforts you know chronic ABS ISM that's defined as a student that misses 18 or more days of school at based 10% of 180 school days you know we believe our students um it's best when our students are in front of us so um you can see how we did decrease our absenteeism at the non- high school level we exceeded our Target so that's excellent news and then at our high school we declined and I know um Dr Dr Carlson has already started this year knowing this information and made has made please through open house and her newsletters and Communications with families about how important attendance is so that's something we will have to report to Des right and that factors in with our ranking more heavily than test scores their new rubric right yeah that's a very heavy weight okay one question I would have torical question for both John and jya when it comes to the um chronic absenteeism the definition chronic absenteeism if we have families regardless of what grade level the student is you know families may have particular circumstances that are either challenging or what I whatever it could be so it's not to me you know looking at data and and and looking at you know the gross level is one thing but you know rhetorically do we have resources is in place with our Administration and in our in our buildings to help Outreach to families to try to work with families to understand what might be what they're facing yeah I think I think the communications from the from the administrators ongoing wave one we have you know layers of counseling and everything else so when there's kids that aren't coming to school for whatever reason there's the Outreach there we're trying to you know gather information as to why the kids aren't coming to school and try to come up with ways to get them into school um it yeah just it's tough because um you know that absentee is in peace I mean 10% and if you look at it in like ERS you know days so it's I me other things those are things I think my head address cap the credit to our administrative team especially a lot of the assistant principles work with our families and our school counselors um social workers that work really closely families just I'm I am curious I don't know if our system gets is easy enough to get down to the granular level but I see you know December and in February is it that one day of the week is higher during those winter months perhaps Friday we can see it we can Sarah we can go down to the day with the with the data it's it's really awesome I don't know I maybe not everybody's in I before I really like data I think it would be very helpful and speaking of data one thing I think was very helpful and you know sitting in in audience you hear a lot of like aha moments from folks um Matt does this whole little presentation on where he he makes it real when he talks to you about it if you're this many minutes late each day how much in your lifespan how many days of education you miss if you miss one day a month how he really brings it down to at the end of it I'm going to screw it up so now I'm going to try but at the end of it if you do this which seems very minor you may miss six months of your education over the span of your time here and I chunked out like that um really really makes students and parents aware more of the loss to their their educational opportunities which is also probably ISM I have a whole chart I have a whole chart that we look at that as well I think wait that not mad no well I John did just did it recently as well the team so yeah it's probably both things but you know yeah even 10 minutes today equals x so it's it's important yeah I'm going to go into more of the yearly performance Trends right now so looking at it um and this is really important especially if you go to our a lot of I a lot going on keeps you going keeps you interested though right um so if you especially if you go into our professional Learning Community meetings this is where um our educators are really focused on how students are progressing and looking at the data over time and and how we're supporting them through the multi-tier of support so we're now going to look at 2019 and 2024 performance so you can see kind of two sides of the screen here right how the um for in terms of English language arts how our students performing year-over year um there with zoom in on I I mean is this is this showing we're at our lowest points even preco like even during the height of covid Are We lower than we've been at all is that's kind of varying Rel a little bit well what I want to highlight is that our Trends are mirroring the state Trends and I think there's something to be said because as I said the mcast assessment itself is a moving Target it does shift and change and the questions are not the same year after year I think it's interesting that we had a dip in 2022 a sharp increase in 2023 and then like the state we did have um a decline in 2024 again though I'd like to highlight that we are above the state level but I do think that is an interesting trend of how we are perhaps seeing some Trends with the assessment itself so I just wanted to ours look more volatile I spent a lot of time looking at growth charts so I'm always told to kind of like look at it as an aggregate um our seem much more volatile oh 2 me too yeah but even our decline in 24 is seeper than the state average I think it I think on the graph it looks looks different actually is cu it's a smaller sample size it's so that the line's a little bit more flattened out but it follows same Trend you know um what what we talked about as as a admin across the state on the 2022 clearly there was you know because of Co everything else but then also there was some they found there's questions on the test that all students struggled with across across the Commonwealth so they looked at those those actual questions so as well thank you so much John I appreciate that and I want to show I want to just this is the percent a meeting and exceeding overall though for English language arts for the district our average scale score has only declined by one point so the scale score itself has not changed that much and I think that's also again another data point of where the state is setting benchmarks with the assessment so we are down uhga -2.8 growth percentiles and only down one uh point on the average scale score from the year so this is the largest percentage we've ever at least going back five years of not meeting we're 33 % higher than we've ever been with not or not exceeding portion it looks like the highest we saw was 6% and we were at 8% that's a 33% increase in our not not meeting and then it looks like we're at the lowest percentage of meeting um prior to that even in 22 coming out of covid we had 50% meeting and now we're at 47 we did you know we are we are maintaining that 133% of exceeding but that 8% is is very concerning growth I know eight it looks like a 2% increase is small but when you look at it as percentage drop off it's 33% and as one data point it does identify areas of growth for us it does moving into math um we are at 63% of just students in the districtwide that are meeting and exceeding our expectations um you can see the um with the provide is as we look to provide targeted interventions reflecting areas of need additional support and resources um that we are able to um we're going to continue to support our students this right here we are very um consistent right here and what we're going to look for is with all the work that we're doing to see an increase our average growth even though it looks percentage wise the same we did have a plus 1.2 growth for our um student growth percentile um and it's very steady performance there's not much um difference between of the previous uh year post 2022 Improvement and exceeding corre here's for Science and again this is just fifth excuse me third fifth and e no excuse me Fifth eth and 10th grade um again I did mentioned before we did have the new assessment for Fifth and eighth grade um and that is going to be fully operational next school year so um I want to just note that we are not really comparing um apples and oranges there not comparing so yeah thanks will this be usable data moving into next year because what I'm hearing is now that there's this isn't linked to a graduation requirement students may not be taking this as seriously so how are we going to use this for to really apply to our you know our mtss model what is the does the margin of error in this data become larger and if so how do we Implement that in a way that really delivers mtss with Fidelity I know we use other markers but this really was a very good equalizing Factor that's a great transition for us because as I go to our next slide I'm going to be talking about how things are going to be changing for us just as you identified and it's also not only student you know involvement in the assessment itself but it's also family and parent um perception and we saw that through the votes that came in to change the mcast requirement right so you know family values and and um what they put into this you know we're going to see some differences I do believe and that's why it is one day to point um what we're really focused on is um as we are every year is closing that achievement Gap um our gap between the state overall achievement and our District's achievement has widened in the positive trend so we want to celebrate that we do need to continue to closely monitor our high need students that is per Desi right the high needs is lowincome English learner or former English learner and student with disabilities and I presented this same to the committee last year and this is the continual focus on why we are so dedicated to our multi-tiered systems of support um our principales will be able to share a little bit more at the uh non- High School grade levels but we did have high growth rates for high need subgroup in both Ela and math in those um grades three through excuse me it' be grades four through eight um and then we exceeded the target for progress toward attaining English language proficiency growth for our n non- high school students so very proud of the work of our Educators that and then um what I'm going to do is now take the TR the presentation because I do strongly believe that mcast is one data point and I want to use this opportunity to highlight what is happening um in our district to analyze the data um to support our students so um in general we're talking about mcast but this is what we do right we as Educators and administrators and instructional leaders we analyze data to support our students um we have strategically developed our multi-tier systems of Support over the years that includes um from um setting up professional learning communities to supporting um stiens for Teacher leaders to supporting professional development and implementing high quality instructional materials um and I am you know our our students are are really fortunate to um have the teachers that dedicate themselves to looking at how our they're doing at the most granular level that's with the second grade team at Brown school today and they're look literally looking question by question and what they can do if if a student's missing a question to help support them through the Wind Block um and I think they're doing um that's great work through the ntss structure all right so you can see this was actually the second grade teos with today um we we rely within the school district on common assessments and other um assessment tools like IR ready iel and inclass which is Dibbles we've adopted um under my perview we've adopted iel as a pilot at Village School which is going very well and we're collecting data on and we also adopted dibles which is the gold standard for literacy screening and assessments um at the elementary level so very proud of that we also look at access which is our English learners um the annual assessment they take every January and of course our mcast data this should look overwhelming on purpose we this is what we are doing to support the students we are doing for a small district with the resources that we have allocated to us through this the town the state and through federal grants we are doing a tremendous amount of work to support our students so um I did this intentionally to show the vast amount that we're doing um and then this is just what I actually could fit on the side we're Clos absolutely it's there let's look at it um while we're while we're looking at it can you talk a little bit more about the high needs because that's something I really want to know more about and I I don't see Lisa Mor here um but I would like to have okay I I I'm not gonna spin this on someone though yeah um I would like hopefully maybe when we come back in January to have a presentation that really zeros in on our high needs students their their growth um and their trends that we're seeing in the mcast because that's something that came up last year and I I want to just make sure that we're continuing to look at that particularly on what came out of our assessment for our special education department last year I know that we made tremendous growth on addressing um the areas that we were out of compliance or needed better compliance um and so I I really want to see you know I'm a big believer that you can't fix a problem till you have identified it what are we seeing on the mcast areas of those atrisk um or high need students how is that correlating to the groups that you know may have come up in this assessment how also does it correlate when that um assessment comes back for our um student services department that the the school committee ordered and then look at all of that data together what picture does that give us about what are needs and student services and I think those three buckets together are really going to be important especially as we lead into the budget cycle because um we already know that our um out polic grew it a faster we that we thought I we'll be hearing more about that but I would like to see a high uh a high needs mcast presentation that focuses on that in addition to it yeah I'd like to second that because I think make that yeah because one of the things I was going to be asking about after the new year was just that um and so I think it would be I don't know if you do this in a later slide but just aggregating the data Scott silberg on asked the question out there um you know again I don't know if there are confidentiality issues I don't imagine there would be um that we can disaggregate the data and look at it and just have a whole section of of a meeting agenda item focused on our our um student services department like to add that I'd like to add more than just incast because as I just mentioned I was going to go back but um we have so many other measures I think the one critical thing to highlight here is all of this is is a lot it's tier one and that is all students right and and high needs part of that group is students with disabilities but it's also our low uh income and our English Learners and I think what we have done to strengthen the tier one and what we have done to integrate win we now have win K12 in our district this is the first year of that and I want to highlight that this is the first time we've had an opportunity for an enrichment and intervention block for K12 for our students um is the nth or 12 is that the magic b yes correct but we haven't this is we added seventh and eighth grade so now it's the first time for a continual when just oh that's just read we are offering it during just read y so for students who don't get just read they don't they don't some correct they are in their um performance time okay so that that'll be another shic we can cover another day yeah and I'm glad you made the point that it's a tier one because as I was looking at this I'm thinking there's no language based classroom talking about like that's another level that isn't with wisdom it's its own set of I just I want to highlight one other thing one thing that Lisa Marie and I have been really collaborating on is not having things happen in silos that we have seen sometimes that um we want to have it a collaborative effort because students with disabilities are all of our students right and so when we go to you know when you go to meetings um it's the general education teacher with the inclusion teacher um you can see in some of these pictures like they are literally in the PLC meetings together looking at student data we are really as a um a district um and with the instructional leadership looking at um how we can continuously have all Educators collaborate together yeah I think one of the things when we look at that just so you can prepare for the meeting is what I want to see too is I want to see our high need students at each T sub has subset and how they compare to the overall aggregate so if we have um if we have the eighth grade ELA um we're outperforming the state average by say 24 3% at the overall aggregate at when you look at 8th grade ELA for our high needs are we is it is it comparable or does that shrink or does that grow that will give us an idea of Are We addressing those needs with those students better or worse than we're doing our general education students right there's just so much data in this test that we can dig into absolutely absolutely and in addition to all the other things that I think that would give a good picture as well um like some of the um the data we're getting for the through the Dibbles has gotten has allowed for conversations at different levels with our educ so um just as I start to conclude here I just want to emphasize how mtss um does rely on data analysis to support students um and how we're using that to plan our both intervention and our enrichments um we also have a newly integrated social emotional learning curriculum K12 wayfinder which the school committee approved and it's going really well and I just wanted to say thank you for that um approving that we are um really excited about the results that we're going to have of integrating that because the the data the research will show that we'll have um it can increase in achievement as well so just finally um very proud of the work of our Educators our instructional leaders have done to strengthen our mtss adopt evidence-based curriculum and employment assessments that help us monitor student performance on a continual basis um and I just wanted to say thank you again to the school committee and I'm really excited to bring up our leaders next to dive in a little bit more at the school level so thank you but first like to this by we're doing this by building right correct so as we switch gears here um our school leaders have put together cast presentations I'd first like to bring up principal Mary Maxfield for brown Kisha and Joseph Brown School okay so got some uh some overview and then I've got a few details as well so you can see that this year this past year we scored um 64% overall proficient or exceeding the LA and 61% math um as compared to the state it's uh 64 for us and 45% in ela and Julia go to the next slide thank you um we're consistently and significantly above the state average um I do think it's important at probably even more significant at our level um we have no um um we have no cohort data because we're we're ground zero right um we don't have we don't even have the fourth grade we we can look sort of how they go from year to year but in our own school we only have one test where with So when Julie was talking about all the other data that we look at that's significant uh for us um and I appreciate what you were saying about um our most aisk kids um because we're looking at their growth and development and we have to really it's the first time they've ever seen or asked to perform on an assessment like this and very often those kids with high needs that's not the venue in which they best perform so um inter I was just looking at um attending this udl uh workshop and really and truly all the choice that we give kids that we should be giving kids in tier one it's not an option on the endc so it's really hard um for some of those get with highs um our math trend line is on point from uh 22 to 24 it's gone from 46 to 53 to 61 so um I'm I'm hoping that that is because um we've had significant professional development in the area of math and theque curriculum and it's firmly in place in addition to a math wi time as well uh in our low-income group we've bound from 35% to 65% overall in that subgroup and then our elll consistently improving um they actually are much higher but again it's not really statistically significant because it's such a low number I mean you're talking about 8 to 10 kids out of a hundred so when we say they outperform um the port nonel it's it's a little it's a little skewed there um we are I want to thank mat for helping go ahead can you define an English Le versus a non-english learner English is not their first language for a non-english learner correct and an English learner is where English is their first language no English learn the family has identified on the home language survey that they either speak another language at home or that their first language acquisition for the student was language other than English learner is student that is um designation in the state of Massachusetts and across the uh nation and they receive Services based off of level of need and that's where they do in addition to mcast they take an access test each January that shows specifically levels of English acquisition thank so I'm gonna say that an English learner is probably more fluent than a non English no an English learner is somebody who perhaps might speak Spanish Spanish is our Al a non- English learner is someone who's not in there we're not teaching engl English Learners are people who are learning English yes correct I used to call it English language learners more it's easy the subgroup is consistently improving and outperforming that so they're still probably below but they're outperforming in terms of the okay got it yep for their growth their growth their growth is tremendous but their raw score is not no no it is proficient or so if you take the if you take a percentage the percentage of our English learner students right they are they have a higher percentage of them are um perform in the proficient or above proficient R than the whole third grade as a growth let's pause there I see a happy face Mary but that's not that's a problem well I don't think so I really don't when I look at how our kids are so how our kids are performing overall I think we're all going pretty well but our our our children who don't have a language barrier are performing at a lower not speciically significant because they were talking about 8 to 10 kids and not talking about 100 so the sample isn't comparative I thought it was important for you to know that those kids are making really good progress which is amazing but when we compare that it's not it's not as lar enough sample to really compare the two groups okay I learned lose that dot then because when I see that dot it's it's cons very concerning to me that a child who as English as a second language is outperforming native englishspeaking students as a as an I guess you do need to disaggregate these numbers which so let's go so that's a point that and Cass and desie points out in when I was looking in the data and I wanted to include it and then when I included it I my my sort of thing was you know that's really not statistically ific for us so which is why I put it on the bottom there and St it so that people wouldn't be so it was part of the overall data so I thought it was important to include but but I wanted you to take it with a grand OFA okay if that makes sense um I want to thank Matt for helping me sort of identify the K3 schools there's a he has a he's amazing with his spreadsheets in front of even though they don't point this out he knows how to get there and so uh we had some time recently where could spend some time uh working on this and we are in the top 14% of K3 schools for ELA in the top 25% of K3 schools for Math and that's all students all schools that have K through three in there so they maybe some K5 schools um but all of them serve P that's good do we know what we were in previous years and can we find that out I don't but we can we can we absolutely can email us that um you want me to do it for the subject areas like yeah for so um some of the areas of growth that we're working on in terms of you know trying to really pull up you know well yes pull up the numbers but also just really make sure that our kids are making indigenous growth is it's year two of w and wisdom um so we're we're already including more curriculum and and the work with the teachers are doing together in their plcs for pacing understanding planning um and implementation has been phenomenal so I'm really excited about how much more growth there'll be this year uh increasing our knowledge and understanding with you know with regard to specific needs understanding and pass uh I'm sorry and flass which is the digital platform data all this kind of thing that um Julia's already already really talked about closing the gap between students with disabil and non-disabled peers we need to do a better job of that we need to figure out and how we're going to do that but honestly including special Educators in our plcs and having them report out on the progress that those students are making as well as their non-disabled peers um we started that this year we started that this year so that is and and understanding that those groups can be flexible as well yeah um if you know kids are making progress or forign not much um um tier one and tier two strengthening that for early intervention developing a progress monitoring system and our Cycles um actionable steps um four questions that we focus on with PLC are what do we want our students to learn how do we know that that they've learned it so what do we do how do we respond when they don't learn it and the fourth question which it often gets neglected in I would say elementary schools is how do we respond when students already know it um they just does it seem to be enough hours in the day sometimes and I think um why we try to meet the needs of kids on the on the complete spectrum of achievement um I think that I think most uh Elementary Educators would agree that that's the hardest one to to tend to sometimes but we're really working hard to do that we're piloting a program where we have um trained some volunteers we have I'm working with the literacy coaches uh train some Volunteers in both math and reading small groups and they're going to be some reading groups some book groups and some challenge math um activities with some of these kids in second third grade so we're going to start that for second P year um I think Julia really um talked a lot about this so I don't want to go on it I don't yeah and we have a long way to go so I really don't want to but you can certainly read some of the things that we've already done trating the data um making sure that we're meeting the needs of all kids during those wind blocks making sure we have data Pro protocols place um we're doing this at both BR and letter so it's important to know I mean um Frank can just say didto let me guess this we're we're really trying to um make sure that we align the schools and and uh Implement these things school thank you Mary I have any questions for Mary any questions I just jum in as we I did I did kind of do on the dark uh day I mean we didn't include the dark data but I thought it was interesting that um where we're compared to we we're smack Dev in the middle of the district so it they range from in ela from 39% to 71% proficient um in ela and we're at 56% so we kind of right in the middle there same for ma they range from 39% to 75% per efficient and we're at 59% where um do they give the data of where the darts are with the um not meeting or exceeding well it just be the subtraction from so it would just yeah there um are we are we higher or in the middle of that as well we're right the middle because it would just be the opposite so those are proficiency levels so whatever support that there we're 59% well they they break it down into four Aries you talked about meeting there's meeting exceeding this is no this is a percentage combined meeting or exceeding okay so it's not the so the rest is the people who AR not that s thanks Mary anything else thank you so much I'd like to bring up inter princip Frank Kowalski next thank you Mary um who's gonna present about um Glover School mcast data thaning here thank everybody especially for the salt food this sh I never thought I would love Elementary life do school soci school every daying five sixy Old St so with the mcast I've learned a lot about all mcast and I know look at the date of the shift Jewel here in might on guys probably doing well 63% of the students are receiving y 58% and find a little bit this strengths I want to highlight your attention to the f% growth in leading or exceeding from 2021 2024 and I really believe I saw s this year I really believe this year we're going to see a big jump in the growth of the students um on El English language outside from 2022 to 2024 the scores increased from 54% to 63% and one of the things that we've done at GL the school year has been like we really believe in the neighborhood School model by build relationships where I want all the staff to know all the children children and by doing this it helps alleviate with absen ASM teachers teachers would absence for any reason so I want all our kids because as you know they're five six seven years old they need a connection right so if the kids have connections to many adults in the school they learn and a lot of the learning they do with social skills and firsttime test taking and when they feel comfortable in school they know the adults uh at all levels I have my my General Ed teachers meeting with the u high langu the high risk students as well so I want all the students and we meet the kids outside of our school every day so when kids come to go of school they know everybody which I think really helps with our school is because the kids feel comfortable when it comes to anyone talking with so I know from fir hand when I had my first conversation with the students that I'm 6'4 and the students F fo2 uh the kid would not look at me he looked at the locker and I'm like okay this is not high school any know so you got to understand that we're deal with little little babies and you deal with babies you got to feel comfortable so we really try to make them feel comfort in the school so areas for growth in the school you know we want to continue to move all students for proficiency right and we have you know Clos the Gap I know we talk a lot about Clos and achievement Gap from our from our high Learners to our low learners but the most important thing raising the Gap is get P get pull from the bottom right tier one learners they're learning because they have a opportun to learn home vacations and other ways they can learn our low-end Learners they don't have those same opportunities we have to teach them and try to catch them up to the middle that's how mcast gets raised by bringing a low to the middle and keeping the high you know keep work with a riger for the highend students good question um can I sure sure sure so um your Ela I see you you highlight here to continue to look at essay rating to lift student results um is this an area we've identified as a weakness in wit and wisdom that we're going to try to strengthen to to work on that well we actually that was the focus this year from last year so the last year's implementation plan included the focus of writing this year um so we've had to reschedule but we do have the writing professional development happening at certain plc's and then it's going to happen all case six um with the with with and experts so we're very fortunate that um with our literacy coaches k6 they've been doing the work and then we have had um sixth grade was an area so we've they've been working with sixth grade specifically and then we do have a three-hour session coming up with K all k6 okay um ELA teachers um this was part of the plan and U wit and wisdom is um has a great writing program it was just we knew that this was going to be the next year of Theus uh new see res schedule we did have it planned it was going to be on the January professional development day so we've had to reschedule it so it's postponed a little bit unfortunately um it will still happen and I that's what we have to do yeah thank you julan thank you one the talk about go to U the mcss is the data Cycles so how we to try the best for the data SE to finding the students that identify the students that are at risk and then they become T2 Runners and we really try to focus in on on the on what they need to improve on um and we have tremendous teachers as as I think everyone know St at the table but our support staff is equally talentful we have amazing tutors coaches you know we have meetings all day long if you walk around lover there's not a student in that building unless they at lunch there's not actively learning something and it's kind of cool to see like when I walk on the building I I can't I can't believe the amount of attention as soon as to getting at all that so you know and I really believe the work we've done father this year school Lo Pro and the experience any questions for Frank thank Youk you thank you very much Frank I really appreciate it next I'd like to welcome our Village School principal Scott Williams good evening uh my name is Scott Williams I am the principal of the Village Elementary School thank you for this opportunity to present to you this evening our performance on the mcast assessment for 2024 I would be remiss if I did not acknowledge and thank the hardworking staff at Village for their achievement levels I was not there last we um and so I I really have to give a Kudos and shout out to the tutors the special Educators the teachers all the special education uh Team everybody it takes the proverbial Village so I would be remiss if I did not acknowledge uh their hard work and dedication for our students um I'm going to walk through five slides this evening the first one is our um success and some areas of consistent strength we have some pockets for growth and achievement that we need to address as a school and then our action plan on how to get there so uh this first slide some of this will be redundant at this point placed on our presentation but as you can see our first um slide shows meeting and exceeding Targets in our fourth fifth and sixth grades 48% of our students last spring she met or exceeded in ela uh 56% met or exceeded in uh grade five and then also 53% in grade six um in the other content area that our students are tested on in mathematics 65% in fourth grade met or exceeded 52% uh in fifth grade and then 58% met or exceeded in that cont in the next slide you see our fifth grade science and technology results and here um as as others have stated this is only a village tested in grade five 57% of our students um exceeded or uh met those expectations from the state the next slide I'd like to these are areas of strength and celebration I want to emphasize that we are comparing um Apples to Apples these are cohort groups of same population of students year to year I think that's important to see growth and achievement over time in my mind and in my opinion um encast is a very important assessment but it as as Julia stated earlier it is one data point we really look at a repository of our district assessments all of our benchmarking all of our achievement that we're doing um throughout our grade levels to get to that um class of 20 32 fourth grade math Grew From 55 meeting and exceeding to 65% and increased the state differential which is great um Ela achieved student growth percentile which was also significant impact grade level class of 2031 our fifth graders El Grew From 50% me exceeding to 56% um we also are doing a great deal of of focus on writing specifically essay components structure our unit designs of how to write um writing is not only a skill that our students need to develop in the classrooms but in life so that is something that um we are in our second year of implementation with the Whit wison curriculum um so we're working very hard with our grade level teams at our PLC meetings our data team meetings working with our instructional coaches to make sure we're addressing those data points for growth and achievement um essay writing again idea development Grew From 32 meeting and exceeding to 43% and then in sixth grade uh celebrating the class of 2030 math Pro from 50% needing and exceeding to 56% um math Grew From 6% exceeding to 12% and of significant note I would say is Ela Grew From 7% exceeding to 19% so in those high achievement categories um that's significant in my mind so congratulations to those over we go back abely so just to Circle back on when we looked at those areas of where the state landed and where you know we were as I said it's it's expected that we will be above the state average just because of our socioeconomic makeup here in Marblehead um and in the way you know we we know that excuse things this was the area that we had the the least amount of Delta between us and the state average so I would like to see that you know and and this is information Julie I think can give give me um I'd like to see all this data for here and looking back at the three to five year Trend as well as where we are with our dark communities um and then again where we had less than 50% in the fourth grade ELA meeting that's really important to see how you're how your plc's and and how your your various groups that really address the mtss model plan to address that for that group that's now fifth grade as well as finding if there's any specific areas that perhaps that Whitten wisdom curriculum hadit a hole or something like that because I know a few years back we identified we brought that new math curriculum in we identified a hole in the curriculum they were really able to patch that moving forward so how are we going to address that for these fourth graders as well as giving the scaffolding to those current fifth graders for those skills that see that they they didn't have what they needed I absolutely understand that Sarah and I think that's a valid point for us to consider as a community at L because I do feel strongly that we're doing very good by our children but clearly we have some area of growth perfect um our next slide areas of growth so these are areas where I I'm going to be very transparent and clear that we we have success at Village but we also as a reflective PR practitioners in the field we need to look at where we need to grow so uh we're looking at our schedule because scheduling is a a big component of the operational execution of curriculum and how do we staff at appropriate Pockets throughout the day to meet those children where they're at so we're looking at our schedule um for the fall there will be some restructuring of that working with our coaches our special education teachers addressing the entire spectrum of Developmental needs from our emergent Learners to our on level earners to are high flyer achiever students that's crucial for any teacher to differentiate and they do at Village um it's not just one teacher's responsibility but a collective group of teachers a team of teachers that would include tutors literacy coaches instructional coaches Etc we have vertical alignment we're also looking um to include our instructional coaches and our special Educators as a as a voice to your point Sarah about meeting those needs to improve those um at risk children if that makes sense our professional learning through great minds Reading influency Writing four through six this is something that is enhanced our experience for our kids at Village um science there's new uh stte standards I met with Angie today and she explained it to me so it's it's more of an Engineering Process where children when they take the assessment they're actually applying engineering um approaches to problem solving and a multi-step problem um that's something that we need to look at and examine as a learning community to prepare our kids for that reality so that is on the radar um specifically for for areas of growth fourth grade class of 32 overall e scores went from 64 to 48 this is concerning this is concerning and something that we need to work on and we will at Village School fifth grade class of uh 203 when math decrease from 61 to 52% um this is ironic And Timely because I attended the fifth grade grade level meeting this week where they were specifically working on fractions and numery and operations and math fluency so I can attest that this is being addressed at the grade level um working with our instructional coaches to achieve that and then sixth grade area of growth for 2030 that class overall Ela uh that decreased from 60 to 53% again we need to revisit and focus on the importance of writing convent voice topic development grammar we want to prepare our students not only to write in an academic setting but in life it's a critical skill can I just ask a quick question on the classes so fourth grade is last year's fourth grade it's this year's fifth grade correct okay so that's why the class that's why the class well I know this class of is making literally my head about because I'm doing the math my I know I was like oh my gosh I've been telling my son he's 2032 what is no this year is fifth grade more for me like I'm here for a long time folks um but when I see this first of all thank you for breaking down these areas of growth this is really good when you compare our areas of growth to because I know you can get down to the question level are are are pockets of areas of growth similar to what you're seeing Statewide which would be more indicative of something like Allison was saying you know are there's areas of weakness due to what these kids lost with the pandemic are they specific maybe to a new program that we're using and then we can Target those what trends are you seeing in my in my experience as an elementary leader um it it's I know we don't want to be complacent and and settle for you know we beat the state average that's not what I'm saying but it's always been my consistent experience that if you look at any item analysis over time with any mcass assessment most districts do correlate to the state performance with data points if that makes sense it's very the the the any District I've been employed in it's very consistent oh they dipped on that question that seems to be I think my colleagues would agree with that it's very the every District tends to emulate what the state experiences so fractions in Geometry does that correlate with a math fact scale that these kids would have missed out on due to learning loss in the pandemic potentially I guess that's my question I'd have to go back to the standards during those times and see how what to focus on Geometry but um we can come back to that happy to go because that may give us an indication of of things that need double dosing at different grade levels as we move forward because each kid each grade missed a different pocket some missed social emotional development some missed maax some missed we're looking at that and I know that's happening at the grade levels and then I was actually talking to um a high school educator who was talking about they were looking at the math assessment and there were several questions on like box and Whisper plots and that was something that they they felt like they didn't cover but there were like three questions on it and it's like so that's you know it's it's that's why it's a moving Target with the um so but that is happening and um a credit to our instructional coaches that help uh work with hand you know side by side with our teachers um to look at that and as you said you reference like we do we really do and have done that for years look at where we didn't do well and try to remediate immediately so thank you and then my last slide will be a little redundant based on what my colleagues have already presented we're in our second year of impation with wisdom curriculum we're increasing critical thinking consistency and Alignment vertical alignment P to six um we are in the fourth year of our uster math program um I by chance I also attended a grade level meeting this week where we were looking at how we going to align that curriculum um I it's been my experience that it takes a a few years to really get deep into a curriculum to make those adjustments to meet the needs of the of the spectrum of Learners scope and sequence has been adjusted Ping's been aligned and um our plcs are a vital component of collaboration at our grade levels and then lastly just our a multi-tiered system of support uh my colleagues have presented this already we have our Wind Block our professional learning communities there are many enrichment opportunities available to our students um we have our newspaper thank you to breu who runs that we we published our latest edition today um Jonathan hel at our sixth grade level he is working with his students on the olympiads this is a national assessment it's a competition where students are taking five test paper and pen and and Jonathan please step in it I speak but U this is an opportunity really really gives our Marble Head children the opportunity to see how they perform at a national scope and then if this is successful and continues well I'm sure we'll introduce this at our lower grade levels so is that something that's available to all sixth grade students it's I I know that Jonathan is this your classroom it's all all 14 okay so it is all the sixth grade students thank you Mr holl when we sat down data put them into the W groups we did Char groups students that wereing those expectations now so they wer F more vention we have we started something last year as well we did this we started January February last year this year we started back in September we did enter the compation the P by all t-shirts do competitions we have prizes award certificates for them as well and they come in three times a week work onest we different strategies go through make Le Liz Pro's program the enrichment level within MTS Cent and then my um my last uh talking point is uh wayfinder which is as as Julie mentioned earlier it's our tier one social emotional earing program I always go back academic achievement is critical and that's why we here we want our children to achieve but I always go back to the classic maslov's hierarchy of needs is the child getting what they need at the bottom of level so we can achieve in the in the holistic sense in the classroom um this has been a very success I was part of the committee over the summer and this is definitely a varable that we need to consider V thank you thank you thank you so much Scott thank you very much now we like to welcome our Marble Head veterans Middle School principal Matt Fox for his presentation good evening uh we have a lot to be excited about this year vets um you know the one thing about about these charts that you know we take a look at that we're missing and something I'll show you towards the end is the scatter the scatter plot behind this uh what Co did with schools and districts is it Shrunk the Scout of PLS and when you're were talking so the last three or four years we talk State average used to be this wide scope of you know here to here and what's happened is it's it has really shrunk that scatter plot so more schools now for near the average so that's something to show I think got some data from pre and post Street look at I I didn't have it prior to this I'm sorry so I spot tonight so going to the next slide uh we have a lot of or two slides sorry I just want to jump right into um I'm going to walk you through some whole school and then some specific grade level strengths that we have and some celebrations I I've colorcoded this uh the red is we're talking not percentages anymore we're talking numbers um so what I've done is I had to disseminate all middle schools out of data because middle schools are lumped in to the saate data with anything that's a non- high school so we had to pull out first all the middle schools from the data and then go through and and look at our data as uh Julie already mentioned our cumulative progress towards our goals of 87% which tied us with seventh highest in the State uh our annual progress towards goals now this is you asked about missing more lowest performers uh the way the state calculates your annual progress towards goals they take your whole school and then they take your lowest 25% and so those are combined together in two different categories and so you're' essentially graded on meeting your goals of moving everybody forward as a school and then moving your lowest 25% forward so they actually count for you essentially twice um we at our school have 44 points possible in that process and we earn 42 of them um that includes attendance you mention tenant um you know two years ago we had 17.4% of our students currently absent that's missing 18 days or more school year last year we made a concered effort with our families as you were there to witness um and we dropped that in one year to 11% which is outstanding so we went from earning zero of our tenance points to earning all of our tenance points this past year so that tied together with earning all but two of our achievement and our growth points is what led us to here and so I did that as fourth highest state that's pretty good uh so I contact the State just to make sure my numbers are right and they're right so meeting exceeding uh this is again as a whole school uh science uh top 177% of middle schools in the state Ela top 12% math top 11% um average student growth so for ELA we had the we were tied for the well no we the 18th highest student growth in the state for our Ela students um for English and then in math we were the 10th highest as a school net student specific growth what specific specific growth yeah our average student growth in those two topics as a school with the 18th highest middle school and the 10th highest Middle School in state our high need subgroup for ELA we were this we were tied for the seventh highest growth percentage in the state for our high needs and for math again for high needs we was high for the eight p and this is demonstrated and I'll mention this really quickly but it's demonstrated in other assessments that we did within our school so we do a benchmark progress uh testing that we do and Julie has been in those I ready um meetings with the experts that come to training our features and those have said how shocked they are at the way our school moves all five levels of achievement at the same at the same level so what they usually see is a slanted line it's easy to move students ahead that are already mastering things and a little more difficult if you're if you're working with students with uh some learning challenges or learning gaps or something like that um our is our school's not familiar for their experience so that's the the school as a whole some of the data there there's so much data it's hard to S some of the highlights um at the subject level our seventh grade math our student grow up is TI for 17 highest in the State uh our eighth grade math our student growth was top 10% our median exceeding was top 7% and our special education subgroup their growth in 8th grade math was a seventh five for seventh I I'll say you mentioned 8th grade ELA um e8th grade ELA um is a strength for us has been for years but you know and our e grade ELA teachers all of them are outstanding uh but it's also accumulation of all the work that we do um you know it's akin to to building a house you know if our seventh fair is a subcontracted to build a bedroom no one cares about the bedroom until they look at the house and so when they're leaving our school this is what they get so meting exceeding we top 7% in the state are our student growth 17th highest in the state and here are our essays again I'm I've been talking about our essays the last few years uh for the essay in e8th grade there are there are four grades you get for the two essays uh you get WC is writing convention uh ID is idea development so how well you follow conventions of writing but also how well you still have a voice in what you're writing so we were the fifth and seventh highest in the state for writing conventions like how to write and we were 10th and 11th highest for performing for our students putting forth our ideas so there's again there's so much data available in these tests which I think is so useful and I don't mind sitting down and getting some of this offline but one of the things I want to dig into because that we're seeing an eth math and Ela is very impressive I'd like to to sit at some point um and see is that something we've seen trending in the eth grade over the last five years is it something we're seen trending with this class of whatever it is trending and if it said it's trending always in the eighth grade what is happening there it's not seventh grade math was topped 18% in the state for meeting meeting top 11% for student growth I mean so there's more data here so actually that's the class of 2028 right so they yes so that would be so when they're in third grade for math they were at 52% fifth grade 58% sixth grade 57 sth grade 65 and e8th grade 69 and I I don't want L of for say one thing because if you can say you're number one state something you say it like six times our special ed subgroup in eth gradea was number one in state growth our SMY growth percentiles out bring every other mil State that's just that's unbelievable the way we're moving all of our things along doesn't mean it's it's perfect approach doesn't mean we don't have areas big areas for improvement um but there's so much to add their points to where we're at now who want to pause for a second on what's on the screen and I'll I'll hand out a handout here if you don't mind will you do that I have a couple more things keep no I understand that but this is really important information like our MC so what I've done is I I took all of those numbers that you see in front of you and I pulled up the 2019 data of exact same numbers so in other words like where did we fall state for our average student grow for ELA so I just create a chart of what you see up here and what you see here and this is where you're going to see that numbers like this um that's not what we were getting even though our our stores look the same we have continued to have we've outgrown the state and recovered I'm just going to say that's what I'm going to say we as a school have outgrown the state and recovered it's a bold statement to make but if you take a look at where we progressed from 2019 to where we are now in relative to the state I mean let me just pull one number 7th grade math student growth in 2019 we were 53rd in the state we are 17th in the state now so we talk about recovery from the covid loss and learning things like that there's not many schools that have done about and I I I say that humbly but I say that with the data I mean it's I'm not here to BR because I'm not in that math class no I mean this is your data is and that's the point I've been getting at this is strong data for when we look at the aggregate of the whole District this is very strong data I would like to see the next layer of data to see you know because I I believe we have great staff throughout our district and and we're we're investing in professional development and may may not have more or less money to invest in the future when we have talent in housee what where can we draw on that and train the trainer model type of thing like I would like to really draw into this data and see what is the trend what is happening and I don't needan to focus on that one grade above all others because there's great things happening you know in other places too but when you see how far we are above the state average on that in that very clear visual eighth grade is a solid place where we are outpacing this the state average at a greater rate than we're at a far greater rate than we're doing it anywhere else what is happening I'd like to know what's happening there and if it can be recreated elsewhere so I I get that we I don't want to Sidetrack us for another hour even though I could it could with all this data but I would like to you know touch Bas with you guys and get more more information we talk about some of our areas growth through so some of our areas of growth of course common across the entire State the gaps between subgroups um but you know as we um as demonstrated by some of our student growth numbers um even though the me exceeding numbers aren't that's where the Gap exists be honest is the me exceeding um and and so that's that's what we're working on that's what every school's working on we've got our inclusion classes get Target interventions um our small group classes are just unbelievable now I was sitting in a a language based math class the other day they're they're learning equations just like in down the hall in the s's room in seventh grade and they're just being taught a different way you know with different supports but they're still doing doing the standards and the you know the the the curriculum that we deliver is really really awesome science we had huge gains this year we went from top 57% top 177% so we jumped 40% in the State uh we're still going to continue to build vertical alignment with Village uh because remember this is a test that covers three years in two schools uh sixth seventh and eighth grade per and then of course we also look at individual questions and standards just like you asked like where we you know how do we deviate by question agreeing with Scott you know most of the time if there's a deviation from the whole state and if there's a dip we'll probably have a relative dip you know to be honest we take a look at any question that we don't score depending on the test 10 to 15% of about sa that's an area that's like an area of Examination for us a yeah we're realistic with it we're not going to say hey we're 10% above we don't have to Thrill um so that's typically a Tipping Point depending upon which test and then ntss brought the uh we we rolled out our we're driving we're flying the plan as we're as we're building it uh we we have a wind block now and our just read it is teacher driven uh we're looking at interventions and enrichment we're doing a little bit of both uh some of the examples here we have data driven groupings for assistance like you know I ready I ready map and I ready data and Nas uh was in social studies they were doing pre-teaching experts so they had students that maybe had struggled on the previous and so what they were doing is pre-teaching students and so when that class comes around for that topic they go to Johnny who was getting some pre- teaching now Johnny's an expert so not only is the help of Johnny with the content it's also helping him have that sort ofal moment of of feeling like he's he's ahead of cont and so there's there's that basic skills reviews writing groups book groups mindfulness or health teachers have been doing mindfulness as an engagment uh there small groups we love him so it's a little bit of everything I'm trying not to say no too much to to what we're doing so where the eth grade special ed student growth percentile land again one there you go there go nice job thank you very much Matt y thank you and I'd like to welcome our mood High School principal Dr Michelle Carlson for her presentation we have to follow that she have 1% that may have we're not sure so do want first place getting out um and so I'll just get and I need to I don't have my glasses so see that far uh so these are numbers that we've already gone over but on here you can see fora um we're at 78% well above the state average and Ma 76% oh sorry 76 and 76 the state I would like to point out too that um we went and we looked at this cohort and how they scored in the a grade to see how they were progressing and um we did show growth so in a they were at 74% meeting meeting so we two points there with math they're at 65% so we made a lot of work there in math at 76 science um we are at 73% and we don't have anything to really compare that to uh then we looked at our strengths and obviously our weaknesses um so looking at the strengths we um scored above the state average so State average bla was 57% and we scored at 60 76% that puts us at the top 60% of all high schools enough um and at math we scored in the top 11% of all high schools in the state our math inre um in exceeding Expectations by 7% um and the standard growth student growth percentage equal like 4.2% in math for last year um science leading and exceeding was at 74% which is above the state average also which was 49% and that put us in the top 13% of bus in the state areas of growth so as Julia mentioned um we are are um listed in need of focused in targed support and that does have to do with our attendance um so one of the items which is not on here I think I just have it that will focus on School attendance but what we've done is we've created or in the process tier one um intervention needs assessment on school avoidance and absenteeism we're working with our social workers and psychologists on this we're also um reviewing based interventions for tier 2 work with resources um using authors like um H and Alo from Oxford and the we're using the bright Network for our um students wayfinder of course and wayfinder does have some great resources on absenteeism and some PBIS initiatives um we're going to be including a parent education who point with this as well when it's ready for very shortly um so that's how we're looking at um our our attendance and trying to reduce our Quant andm as well um we are also um have done item analysis for all the questions and focused on identifying between three and five standards that we have already started working in the LA Math and Science with students to uh hopefully increase our numbers for next year um and they have identified a few areas where like you say math it after the test is given so we need to move that before the test is given um we um also have our plc's that meet um monthly um and in those plc's uh that is where the data is examined and they are looking at the analysis and standards um and we're also looking at the gaps between subgroups in the whole school and overall achievement um doing some targeted interventions in the inclusion and small classes as well so things that we do need to work on um the other things that we do have in place and we've had them for few years now is Magic blocks and how we're utilizing those magic blocks with that done assistance to of the cycle days and then the student driven XL and or academic one day C cycle we have three RTI courses that focus on English Math and Science specifically for students that do need that extra support um and this year we have implemented wayfinder and um seems to be going very well just in the initial um roll out of that right now um for the pr this year we have found lots of uses for some of those different lessons in our school and we've added the data and intervention who been very very helpful with um helping work with teachers to identify those standards that we doing to work on forward for the magic block which is this the third year of it no um I think fourth fourth year okay um where that's self largely self-directed um and you now have the data and intervention coach is there discussion about making some of that less self-directed um and really in you know it's hard at that age because you want them to kind of identify for themselves where they need those areas of growth um or is there at least data collection on are they correctly identifying those areas that they need to be directing themselves and is that showing up in their academic achievement well that's interesting to look at we do use a program so teachers are able to walk students into their particular classes if they're saying that they additional how Wasing those okay or if they have what that they need to that they've been abent uh so then the students are unable to self- select at that point they are directed right into where the teachers are closed in so that is something the okay thank you very thank you Michelle I just wanted to say thank you again to all of our principes for their great presentations this evening thank you so much um also to all the Educators the staff um at the schools that are supporting all of our wonderful students thank you thank you guys thank you J thank you okay um keep going um okay we'll move into the um fy2 Financial update he ran away thanks get you in another last hi evening hi thank you for having me uh I did put in your packet sorry got a lot of papers here I did put in your packets um the current financials through Wednesday uh for the district and also a overview of what I come to realize in my short time here so far um as you know probably close to 80% of our budget salaries so I was um able to encumber back in September October the salaries that I knew then I had to undo that and redo that again for the new salaries based on the collective bargaining agreements that were settled I was able to finish that up uh late last week early this week run some new reports I waited for payroll to hit this week and then um provided the update um with the uh the payroll our system fortunately we only have it for another six months to a year soft rate does not automatically encumber salaries for us it's a manual process so I had to open out POS uh to bypass that inability within the system uh to encumber everybody's salaries for the remainder of the year and then I have to close those POs after every month so um I will be I said I open six posos versus 52 or or whatever whatever have been left in the year uh so that that has been done uh hopefully we can get a good trend on it it's one of the things as soon as I encumber POS or encumber salaries I like to watch it for a month or two just to make sure that my in es especially since it's a manual process right now um I didn't miss something so I will watch that Trend but as of right now um I show that we had an unencumbered balance in our accounts of about $3.8 million uh not anything that I'm jumping up and down about um happy it's 3.8 not 2.8 and I'm also excited that it's not $10 million that means we probably didn't miss too much on the encumberance balances there are a lot of things that are still not encumbered um supplies contractor Services throughout the year that are going to spring up on us um we expect them to come through so uh 3.8 right now is not a large um number but it's also not a scary number for us either that we're going to get to the end of the year and be running into money not in my opinion after five or six months the uh the other the other big one of the other big factors for us especially notra costs I did highlight that in our packet um I think our Administration espe education department uh has done a phenomenal job trying to unravel what's their what um what they what they found when they got here I believe that they have found microphone I believe that they have found um some placements that were out of District that were not planned for in the FY 25 budget um we now have them in covered for this year and in our draft budget for next year which I'll cover in a minute but in our draft level service budget for next year they are there the numbers to the best of their knowledge uh for the kids who are uh out of the district at the car time um that number does exceed what the budget was not only does this exceed the budget but it exceeds it by quite a large amount fortunately at the end of last year we did we I wasn't here uh the administration with the school committee's bling did encumber or did prepay I'm sorry $900,000 worth of tuitions for this current we have gone through that 900,000 but we are projected to go through that 900,000 plus an approximately another $200,000 above that so in my draft level service budget for next year I have accounted for that also so um when I share that with the superintendent and we've had an opportunity to scrub it a little bit further was a first pass um I'm sure we'll be meeting with the finance committees so if we hadn't done those pre payments we would be $1.1 million behind correct that's for so that 3.8 would be 2.7 and that that's for other District placements that were not for the previous administration I think I think when yes I think that there was a lot going on last year I wasn't here to observe it but I've heard you know stories about you know special education last year and who knew what who did what I wasn't here I don't know the players I don't want to make assumptions but that's that's what I understand and I I think there's some education students that went on a district late school year last year and couple at the very beginning of the school year that needed to be accountable for I think from some report I read over the last period of time we also had an uptick in the number of out placements yes and um you know they also the OSD rate went up by 14% was that two years ago and then another more point of Let's help so aren't out yet right what's Happ those projections aren't out yet there's some early numbers they're not they're not they're not 14% scary numbers but they're not what we you know historically saw two three 4% right I will say that um there is an opportunity for us to apply for Extraordinary relief uh because of this $1.1 million there's a high likelihood that we will qualify for Extraordinary relief from from the Department of Education for circuit breaker which will bring in some addition money for this current year andary relief helps you in the current year instead of having to wait for it as a reimbursement next year um so certainly we will be fully exploring that opportunity and applying for exra um so that I there was a bunch of things in my in my report um not high level things uh but I did want to touch base on the FY 26 budget preparation as I alluded to earlier I have done a draft level service budget typically um in my experience I like to do three budgets I like to do a level service which is most important to at least keep going in the same direction we're currently going in um I also like to do a increase Services what are we missing that what of our students need what do our our faculty need our principles what do they need in order to uh you know bring progress even further and then unfortunately I always have to do a what's it look like if we have to make USS we're level funded level funded would be a worst case and I can't even imagine doing a level funded budget usually there's there's some increase always somewhere you know so but yes a level funded would be a drastic balance well level fun fan I get the same money next year as I got no I understand that but you're saying your third budget is the balance budget what funding do we have and what does that look like implemented into our system correct yes with projected growth correct I'd have to factor in all all increases uh collective bargaining increases contracted Services increase utilities increases we have to factor all those things in uh and if we had the same money next year that we had this year how do we make those work and obviously we're 80% of we're 80% of our salary uh budget and salaries you know that that's one of the first places you need to look at when you when you need to Bal balance a budget so on December 11th the town had some projections that brought us out three years and I and I think there's been a little bit of change since that presentation was made because there was some additional um interest income that now able to be accounted for so but so the number I'm going to list is without that change but within three years we were at a $14 million template but that was a revenue growth right so there's still projected Revenue grow that deficit was based on exp count wide yeah so including big noan I I'm fortunate I I feel like I've been welcomed very openly from the town Alicia has been U phenomenal um Alec and Molly have been very welcoming and supportive uh We've shed a lot of data back and forth I think we're all working towards the same goal uh I think they appreciate that I certainly appreciate that um you know with things that have come up I've had conversations with aler and she's like don't worry we'll get through it we'll figure it out we'll get there um so you know I just love the collaboration between my goal to keep that moving forward yeah all right so that those are the highlights from from what I've observed um we do have um our Sr funds are all fully expended we're still accounting for those as far as uh making sure they're in the right buckets and that we can report accurately when we have to file that final report and uh as you know the town's Opa money needs to be committed by the end of this month and then they have two years to expend it uh so we're helping them in certain ways expend some of that or sorry commit some of that um unfortunately you know we we want to use it for onetime expenses so things we're looking at um some resurfacing of playground some uh some gymnasium equipment um you know curriculum jul has been helpful and uh getting some PDS curriculum done so we've been helping you know they've come to us to said hey I've got little part of money here how can you know can you guys spend it with it before the end of the month and I'm like yeah sure no problem my answer is always Alison's ear yeah but yeah again all due to the collaboration open open communication and been really important have they G you a target number yet based on the December 11 projections or not yet they have not and we haven't given them any projections either so I haven't given them a level service number we're talking about scheduling something that first week that first um like we could schedule uh budget subcommittee meeting the first week back from vacation the answer was no his his answer was perfectly mik um abusing he's like oh the February or April mean like give me a few more months I'm not quite there but um was great about making it work and and we're just Ting schedule so we will be meeting at some point uh that first full week back to to start talking development bre yeah I'm you know John I have some conversations to have but um I'm sorry superintendent Rober and I have some conversations to be had um just on some assumptions you know assumptions that I put in the budget he may say no those assumptions are not for you so certainly some fine tuning that we haven't had just to do just yeah and I think in a perfect year if we had um if we were a new team which I like I say love being part of this seems phenomenal we support each other 100% um but in a normal year we probably would have started this a month or two soon uh we certainly would had more collaboration from our budget leaders from our principles and our directors you know I'm I'm not sure because of the timing of everything we I know we spent three weeks in a room loed in a room together um that was time that we lost that we could have been developing budgets and things like that uh so while we still will solicit feedback from principles I'm not sure that it will show the same way as it had that at least this year moving forward that that would be our intentions just to solicit feedback from the principles as well Community we also will need to consider if anything on the warrant within the next probably the first meeting in January yes yes so it doesn't have to be an amount but if we are going to go forward with place and typically going back to 2019 we put placeholder we put um two to three placeholders out and I can pull those that langu whiches in my inbox from all those years and then as we get deeper into developing the budget we know whether we're going to and definitely postpone those or not but put them on um that would include potentially possibly General override and possibly any specific Capital yeah the three we the the the two we've done every year so far have been um one for a general override one for Capital expense override which we haven't needed to use um and then I I anticipate as putting one on um about giving giving property back a surplus but that will come later okay um Mike for the special education where you said you were over I think I read it in your memo where a percentage of 17% um is that what we're over this year what you're project and it will be over next year um where did I pull that so right now we're not over we're over by $200,000 or so and that is strictly you know it would be much worse if we didn't have the the the $900,000 I mean we still would be over on what we were budgeting it's the prepayment right now we're 6.6 right now we're 6.6% over budget um okay then it would be much worse than that without so um yeah so next year I don't know that I have given a 7 1% somewhere well less about the percentage and more about but the the next step of that question was um what is the rough number that is being floated out that that we think the the state is going to allow the out of districts to go off by because like you said it's it's Pro it's not hopefully not going to be the 14% they came out with a 3 point something number and then they revised it to 4.67% okay so it's still it's not what we' hoped for but it's not kind to drop yeah I mean again it's not what we're typically used to seeing in a Municipal environment where we have um we have the same cost that they have except they don't have a of District students they have tuition coming in for those students so you know if their salaries go up by three three and a half perent 4% it's 80% of their budget also why do they need 4.7 and I'm not questioning why why out a district school you know a you know special education school I know that they have far different needs and you know more staff I'm sure to address those needs than we do but you know why do they go from 14% down to a 4 point something to another 4 point something um you know we have to live within a two and a half% um tax levy over U tax levy allotment and if our utilities are up by seven or eight% and our a district tuitions are up by 14% and our custodial supplies and our classroom supplies and our teacher salaries are up by more than two and a half percent at some point it just it doesn't work just does not work um are you expecting the same volatility in out of District transportation um yeah I would say that that that market is continuing to Skyrocket um I I can say that there seem to be when it comes to out of District transportation it's usually um minivan service things like that it's not big bus so it's a lot easier to um it's a lot easier to find vendors who have the ability to do that they don't have to buy big yellow buses which are you know one to two years on Backwater right now uh they don't have to have a CDL license they have to have a 7D license but they don't have a CDL license uh the insurance requirements while still very strict are not as strict um you can have somebody work on a on a 7D vehicle who is not specifically trained to work on diesel engines and okay you know so we we can identify places we are and that's one of the places that we like a lot of these smaller vendors who who uh you know really just trying to Target into a niche market Say Hey I want to drive I'm located at melad I want to drive melad to Beverly every day you know and I'll do it for a set rate um I know in my previous District we had a couple taxi cab taxi cab companies who would actually convert their vehicles to 70 Vehicles because it supplemented them during the day to transport students during the day and then after hours they could run as a tax after school hours they could run as a tax service so it worked for them because they were they didn't have to charge us for the for the full cost of the vehicle and the full cost of of the insurance and everything they could balance that between two different business models we're also looking at transportations especially in small van transportation is always something that know collaborative conss always look at say how can we um share rides you know maybe if kid from swamp's going the same program that kid from Marble headone can we share the ride between the two districts and share the cost so we look we always look at those efficiencies as well um so those are all always and de is is looking at a broader way of doing that like internally so you know there's some there's some conversations about the specialized Transportation so expensive um there is some reimbursement now that there never used to be so that's helpful I think I think fortunately we do have our own in Town transportation we own our own Vehicles we have our own drivers um that is a huge saving um just from the standpoint of where general transportation or Big Bus Transportation has gone over the past 10 years uh but I think we need to look at our our equipment and identify what you know is is our equipment are we planning properly to make sure that we can sustain that model here thank you than thank you very much sure um any other questions okay um let's move on do we anyone want Brian you prepare to go forward with the communication do you need to share your screen or figure um she chose not to go with a recess okay so the subcommittee has been working to resolve a lot of the issues we brought up on the survey we did and so one of the first things we did was update frequently act ask questions page that's been in the Dropbox for months and I'm not sure how you want to go through these because it's mostly language so I'm just worried about we want to go through each section of the fact page or cover at a later date doesn't matter to me you know what I mean like it's also nine o'clock I just want to be mind so I know that you know there's some of these that I have some feedback on like for instance when he says I have a problem with my school as a school Community the appropriate body to address it there's a narrative here but the the real answer is there's policy K and that's that's how we we have to be very I think if there's one thing that has really been highlighted over the last year it's really to keep referring back to policy K and that what that talks about is it's the hierarchy if a if a student or a parent has an issue they're really supposed to start with the teacher if they don't have it resolved there they can go to the principal or the building director then up to the superintendent and it's really important that when we get these emails um from parents which we we get very very regularly I think every school in the country or world does um parents first initial thing is is sometimes just go to the school committee that we're responding back with the link to policy K and encouraging them to go back to the teacher first um and then follow that Che command okay because because I really do think that most times that that's where it can be resolved and there's should be very very few if any inst that's true um and then I don't know people have other feedback in other areas but um I love that the idea of having the FAQ and I'm very appreciative of the work that you and Al have done on this I do think the actual narratives below the FAQs um could could use some development and I'm not sure what the best mechanis for that is is because it's if anything maybe a workshop model because we don't really want to sit here in a normal typical meeting in worksmith and go and but we also have to be cognizant at the open meeting so um maybe we look at a workshop for FAQ development you just noted about I concern about this one here yeah okay we can set that up because as I said there's so much language in here it's you know everyone has their own way of phrasing things yes okay we also are in the process now of getting ready to update the school Community web page um I just talked to Steve before the meeting started uh Al and I took a lesson with him on how to make all the changes but now that we're actually G to do them I think we need to sit down and do a b because I don't want to eras something and that a real problem so um yes so I think everybody agrees that there are sections of the web page that need to be updated like we need to add a new section in there for where this school committee newsletter will go there's all kinds of pointers going on so I think if everyone's comfortable with that we'll start making the changes I thought we had decided is you would guys would identify the changes and Stephen will Implement them that only Stephen should have access to changing it I thought am I wrong about that no I thought we had talked about that um so like for instance if you you have a screen that you want change take a screenshot mark it up send it to Stephen and he can implement it but that he should be the one in the beach stuff that's what I was doing negotiations I would tell him what I want or it's and he would make the so what you want me to do is if the next time we meet to at least list the things that we're goingon to have Steve change yeah yeah and and he's very quick like we've said before can you do a quick button for survey here or quick button to put the budget here I mean I don't want to say it's not even 24 hours like it's right away it's really good I feel B setting that idea that he's gonna do it for you right right away every time that that is an unachievable goal but well certain things I think if it's just word smithing or you know deling a section I I don't really know if Steve would have to do that for us but it'd be like if there's major changes the format of page itself that's something I wouldn't want to do on my own well I think it's more of of the website itself yeah I'm not sure any of usess okay that's my concern I don't think we should I I I don't know I mean if you want to bring that back maybe to Alan you guys can have a conversation I just you know book mbers come and go and you want I mean you generally don't necessarily want us to have actual access to the website that should for sec I think in general for security purposes should be with one person in the IT department and then we can just because I don't even think everybody in the IT department has access just you right Stephen yeah yeah okay that's not problem so uh part of it is we're asking to U do some work on our communication and teamwork as a school committee contact Leisha and um is able to hold some of these workshops for us and so I think we're just looking for the dates that she's given us and the focus will be on teamwork communication skills and anything else that we feel we need to focus on right the way thank uh we published school committee goals and everyone accepted those so we're moving on with that turn around times for the school committee minutes I did meet with Allison and she really is working hard she had a back when she took it over and she's almost switched she told me by the end winter break we'll be right on schedule so then following school committee meeting we'll have the minister approve rather than trying to figure out what we did two months ago that's wonderful and I just want to point out too just to give her a little bit of Grace she's also in charge of payroll so there's been a lot of changes in payroll in the last three weeks because everything sof right is such an outd agent system there was a lot of extra work that needed to be done in payroll um to kind of make up for the changes that are happening so she's she's doing double time on both fronts that's why I said there I want give a commentation that was wonderful um we are working now on improving our relationships with media and I've met with h the current and the weekly and they've agreed that they will give us space on the end of the month when we want to publish our school letter uh school committee newsletter and perhaps any special articles we may come up with for example we are looking at trying to create a primer on the budgeting because I think as we go along it's going to be very important as as the money becomes Tighter and we want to start looking at some future uh increases in our budget I talked to Mike this morning a little while about um some of the things we can work together on I don't want to overload him now while he's working on the budget that's most important he gets the budget started well he's already started with can you was work on I don't want to dience to this primary but I I really think primers are very important to get out and it's not just a primer for the parents that's the smallest number of Voters in the town what we want to get this primer out is to the rest of we want to be able to say to the town over 60% of the Town budget is the school committee's budget and so we need to make sure that they understand how we create the budget why we create budget this way and how we get funding what we the budget sub can work on that yes I think in the goals that's where we attributed it to yeah right great the other thing I just want to mention too is that we um have been working closely particularly during the work stoppage with mhtv and it done some interviews so I'd like to also you know see there may be some opportunity um and I can also reach out to John cwell um and just you know talk about whether maybe we have the opportunity to do some um periodic interviews on I it's just another it's multimedia option for them I haven't been able to make contact with I can help you with that okay um I'll skip to the newsletter until the very end public comment we had originally been taught ask what we should do about P comment because they have been Fast and Furious over the last couple of months and we think it's important for us to to have a a policy or not a policy but a procedure for how you want to deal with some of these comments so we don't want to make a comment during public comment should not responding as right after a person gets done with the public com we should not respond to it immediately that's something we should back off on and I've noticed that's sort of been picking up lately we sort of jumped right in and I really think we need to go back where Ro Robert R word and not comment uh as people speak now if the the topic however they're speaking about is significant enough and something we're already working on then I think we should have a a one topic discussion the future school committee meeting to address that because it's part of the overall you want to say on the the for yes or what a town meeting or whatever we're going to call but you know that's in our goals too right I mean I don't just I disagree with this but that's fine um it's the will of the committee but we're it's in our goals to have multiple forums so there can be more conversation yes yeah and the only time I think we should respond directly to a public comment following meeting is if there's misinformation being passed out that's that's absolutely incorrect I think we need to be able to correct some of these misconceptions that fly out during public comment if there're severe so the only comment I'll make about this is that public comment I believe is one of our in our protocol it's a policy actuallyy and a protocol so I I think that you know I'm going to read this as a suggestion by the sub Comm the communication subcommittee um and I do think we can revisit it policy subcommittee can revisit them because um yeah I think we can commit to doing that I know that there have been a few times over the last year and a half where um actually it was a little bit fur maybe about a year year and a half ago not as recent as the last few months but we had legal had us pull um our public comment policy and reviewed it not this past summer but the summer before and felt it was a strong policy a good policy and um if anything they said you can read the policy at the start of of the meeting kind of remind people um so I think I think that's good I think what what I'm seeing here is reaffirmation of multiple of our goals which is nice um and then it just reminds us we have to get back to our go not back to we just started them two weeks ago so ourselves a little bit um but you know that we can want to continue to focus on those and the communications subcommittee had one goal the budget subcommittee had one goal and then the um policy sub committee had one go so um I think some of these are reiterated here I just kind of read them as reminders of those tools that's correct this is the communication of the goals that we've already sted okay yeah all right so this monthly newsletter I have a sample here if I can this you might be able to just your hyper link actually there say again it's not that hyper link oh you're up still screen right now yeah the second one down Brian or sorry it's um if you go to your files I can see your screen right now it's the third one down all the way on the left that says more access you um minimize that and just go back to your home screen and do a touchreen minimize all that so if you click right here that's his small here is that show me y so this is just a draft that Al and I work in it's not the final format or anything but it's giving you an idea of what it could look like and I'll be honest I couldn't have done this more without help Julia I'm in her office a lot trying to figure out how to get something done I guess it's not exactly simple to use but I always thought that um we should always start off with our mission yes our mission stti I mean I we have to constantly remind everyone what we're here for and then we'd have it done by month so this was like a draft of what December would look like and the plans for December was that we would um focus on the 2425 budget improve our Communications and improve this uh School Community goals right so that then we had started this in December then there's a section that we covered in December the negotiation with the Nea and that just stated what happened where you can find all the bulletins it's link right into the bulletins and then the last section of this says the contracts negotiated and approved and it was a little discussion at the meeting at the school committee with custodians but once that was addressed we approved the contracts and then they were ratified and signed and again here's the link that gets you right to the contracts then I talked about the fact that last month a group of us went to the MS masc conference with the MSS conference and these are the people that went to it a listing of some of the courses that we took while we were there they were a lot more than I have listed here but these are just a sample of what we did and um you can see that the examples of the courses that we took are very relevant to the the work currently do doing now whole things on budget Communications Equity um and Dei and all those type topics so we presenting our findings today and what we're thing one next section I had we had thought would look uh would work well would be subcommittee updates just under each one of these subcommittees if for example we're going to talk about the coffin School that that would be listed here as one of the topics subcommittee talked about and then link it to wherever the most are for that one and then the last part is um a summary of the actions for the previous month we said we were going to do these things is what we did by the end of the Seth now the only thing I can't figure out is how to put the zoom on here the zoom I I can't figure yeah and what it says here marble at Heist here's the next meeting I want to put in here the to zoom in live but I couldn't figure out how to put because every time I put the link in it puts it above it it puts it on we'll figure it out that's we may not always have the link this is just a model to show what we could do not for Content accuracy right correct okay just that's great a form and if you like this form then we could start going and finalizing it's great it's a good point Alison any you okay with I think it's a great start we can you know this can be in our Workshop too right okay that's it any questions no that's great thank you for the work this looks like a tremendous man work but to okay awesome really appreciate that all right so we will have more work hopefully so this might be potentially launched in January yep okay um great thank you by is there some more format for the new are okay I mean just what parents and families are used to because it's what everyone get I'd like to add also for May that when you receive it you can translate it into any language that would be that's one of the reasons and and Steve and the program that he brought in we all have access to so more also has analytical tools that I got to mention for example we can find by looking at the results which section parents focused on when they read it and how long they read it so we get an idea we don't want this thing to be more on the two pages ever I mean it should be very short very sweet I thought from some of the newsletters that have been published on more the average read time is about seven minutes so that's maybe a page page and a half two so that's the idea is to keep this short simple and understandable and I think it's it's a more userfriendly format than some of the things we've used in the past just you know as an end user of it I find that I read the sores more frequent ly than other previous newsletters that felt a little bit clunkier to work through yes thank you forward to it awesome um okay moving on we have the coffin School Surplus status so um this is where the subcommittee is working together works um Jen as um a member of the policy subcommittee had CED me off to look at policy FCB which is a retirement of facilities it talks about a retirement for or I call no it calls for a um a study a closing study a comprehensive closing study for any building yes that may be consider so we can go through a lot of these um because uh we have already stopped we stopped housing students in coffee when we moved them into Brown some of these as we go through doing the Stu uh doing the closing study we'll just have an item next to them that is not applicable but I think I do think it's important to go through and create the document um so I can work with the facilities subcommittee and Mike to go through this again I think it's going to be a brief report um because so much of this is going to fall under not applicable uh but I I think it's a good good document hisorical Conta yeah good well to our policy yeah just that we require it so um and and again again as we said last time it will be it is the recommendation of um the facility subcommittee that do this closing study and then take it to the next step which be um talking to the town that is the will so do we um all right so we I I me I'm trying to be a little conscious of time literally tonight but also um time in regards this do we want to take a provisional or take a vote tonight um or do you are you recommending that we the warrants open through the end of January so we have two meetings in January to address this in I think that from a a a workflow perspective to have the closing study when we take the vote seems appropriate versus put in card before I I think we we could guess at the outcome yeah I don't think you know it's a mystery but I think just for following the steps it would be helpful to to have the closing study document Ed in our drop box and for the public so if people want to make that they have that opportunity okay John yeah I think I think that's a great way to go forward there's no question okay all right so do will you be prepared to have that for the next for the next meeting um our next meeting we have to find out our next scheduled meeting is um immediately following the holiday and I'll be honest no I will not have it for that okay um I I anticipate being able to have this um absolutely in time for the warrant okay um but but it would not be reasonable for me to tell going to have it that that um first back okay so the plan is to have it for a meeting in January um letting the public know at this point we're expecting that we're going to have a closing comprehensive closing study presented to us um at the meeting that we will expect to take a vote there so there is sort of you know forewarning to to the public if folks want to come and speak about it there will be an opportunity to do that and that we will have time to make this uh take this vote prior to the vulnerable um okay any other questions on that okay um let's do um quickly can we do subcommittee and Lea on updates ran you just did your Communications but yes um budget will be meeting I said that first week back um we're finalizing people's schedules right now um facilities had a meeting are last we have had two facilities meetings in the last week and a half both are up on YouTube to to be fully viewed this last one we had RDA and leftfield come and do a presentation on the roof project at the high school that entire presentation is uploaded and you can um see that via the YouTube discussion um one Cor correction to that is when we when Mike was giving a little bit of the history he talked about um the date on msba submitt we are currently I I went back and asked Mike to pull some data um following that meeting I have also gone back through and we watched the meetings and um the good news is it was became very clear that um it's not a transparency issue there if you have the time which I understand a lot of people you know May may not have the time you can go back on our website and conjunction with the YouTube and look at all minutes going back several years meeting agenda um the agendas the minutes the packet materials I was able to access videos and watch meetings from 2021 um y significant amount of time in the last two days backchecking that so I do encourage people um they have some time in their hands and want to look that over to look over those old meetings but what we were able to figure out was um a more finite timeline on the submitt for um msba reimbursement was done in March uh about six weeks prior to the town meeting vote and then we heard back um I found the I see I fored do some of the stuff I found um Mike so you had it too so we can add it some timeline um there was an October 2622 email that was dated talking about um the the reply from the msba and then in ultimately in December of 22 was when the msba came back and said they would not engage at all I found that letter with the high school grof because it was less than 25 years old at that point um so long long story long um all those all those meetings are available online and we'll be adding to that a comprehensive um overview of the timeline um I think I think I had I had the msba submission date off by one year I exed in a meeting that it was 2023 but it was actually it was 2022 and then we heard back from them in December of 22 that they would not take it back then i i s only two meetings prob they ready to kill me from the spring of 23 where um we're talking about at that point that it was going to be about 18 months out um how long the ordering takes and roofing material and so on and so forth um ultimately this is where we are leftfield and RDA did a really really good presentation of explaining what our options are um Mike has been working very closely with oisha they feel um we're doing the Final close out on the brown school project in the msba reimbursement right now but there should be about 1.6 million left in that give or take a little bit Alicia feels um confident or at least this is my takeaway in saying when we're done with that Final close out to present to town meeting repurposing that money to help offset the additional cost um really where the big Delta comes in in the cost is it was never put out it was never projected that are going to replace all the hbac units I know there's been some misinformation floating around the community um what was noted at town meeting was the high school roof the d-wing roof and one unit on the Fieldhouse it was never the all the units on the entire roof process and when they got up there and got boots on the ground in the roof and really started to esmy is when they were able to identify the amount of rust which they feel was um exasperated and kind of sped up by our proximity to the ocean um and and the Salt Air rotting out those units um anyway everything yeah so everything's on there I I'm not going to make you all sit through the additional hour um presentation but I encourage folks if they're really interested in it to look at it and we will be coming back with more information on um how how we best the process thank you um negotiation subcommittee um we still have contracts that have to be finalized in contract form we have the memb of agreement memorandums of agreement up on our website when those those contracts are slowly coming in we'll be working with the mea um the co-presidents um to make sure we're all set both sides on those final contracts and those will eventually be signed they won't they do not require a vote the vote took place with theas um but when those contracts are completed I'll get them out to the committee and we'll take a look at them and we can um we silence and just it's important to note for people who who all this contract stuff isn't their native language um at this point that those contracts are in pled we're not further nego they're they're ratified they're good to go it's really just integrating them into the thick you know however many dozens of people just packet any other updates uh CPAC uh they were very happy with all the work that Lisa Mar ining I mean she's cleared up a lot of the Bessie concerns and they're very pleased with the way the district is approaching this so that's good I also attended the district safety advisory and I'm feeling very confident that everything is being done to make sure our schools are safe I even asked the chief before the meeting started how we feel about this information that shootings schools have gone up since Co and he said yes but he's confident we're doing everything we can here prevent something that bad from happening here and there also Tower school has having analed training that they've invited us to be able to send people if we want so it's uh I think that there's a lot of focus everyone's done their drills everyone's done their fire drills so I think we're moving in a very positive safe Focus we've also just add um we added more cameras that we noticed um you know whether there's there blank spots we add more cameras in just look at facilities General around some of the stat concerns but yeah was it was a good conversation with the tower school and charter school with two chiefs it's a lot of good collaboration going on some things and those cameras were part of the capital Campa or capital budget improvements Le maybe the year before last and it really made a difference because I know a few years back when we looked at security footage I think it was a Glover from a broken window or something on a roof you couldn't you couldn't tell was it a child was it a 65 man there was no differentiation and now when we've seen camera footage it's very very make sure that those CS where they need to be and they're operating properly and there been up yeah they're all so lot that's great um okay um any I have I have a couple items for new businesses any of the members have any items on news I had one item um it pertains to Student Services we have this audit coming back we're do a lot is happening in student services and I think that that momentum has been great um we we'll have this audit coming back um Lisa Marie has been working with her team um both at the district level and at the school level to really fix the areas of concern that were highlighted from the state but one area that we talked about last spring that I kind of wanted to revisit was um we at Le at least I want to figure out if we have a I well I know we do not have a letter of Engagement with our special education attorney that that came out kind of during things like spring with one of with an incident at our lower elementary schools when we were looking at some data um I had asked to see the letter of Engagement and at that point attorney M boy had informed me we didn't have a letter of Engagement that we've been with him with for multiple decades but we just had no letter of Engagement it's best practice that you do have a letter of Engagement with any law firm you're working with so in light of that you know I want to either get one and possibly look at um going through the the just my understanding is best practice every few years you know looking at who is your legal counsel and for special education um you know just reaching out to our administrators and at least finding out we're going to make a recommendation about that side yeah and it maybe that we say with that it's just if we if you've been with a firm for decades that should at least like revisit and at the very least have a letter at least and I have spoken about that okay great thank you um the last thing I had um just quickly we are scheduled in two uh meetings up first in January we're our first meeting is scheduled for January 2nd which is the first day back to school after the break we do have a couple of Administrators that have some conflict um from Central Administration um on that so I'm I'm wondering if the committee is open to moving that first meeting to January 9th Thursday January 9th we'd also have one on 16th I actually think that would be very beneficial because there's not I mean we're going on right I people are think going not we're not going to have anything new to report really we were product and we also work together in the week leading up to the meeting um or the days leading up to the meeting and um I'm myself I'm not necessar going to be available so we'll have a much more substantial um at least Finance sub commmittee update because we'll have had a meeting so that makes a lot of sense to me in for that month does it make sense because there's actually 9th and the 23rd the 9th and the 23rd there's five yeah there's five Thursdays at month so do we want to do the n and the 23rd that would keep it that would keep it in mind what we normally do speak how do you feel about that I'm fine with that okay Allison yep so we'll do the 9th and the 23rd everybody out there m be land um the other question I had for the committee um to consider we don't even have to decide this tonight but normally in February our meetings are usually the first and third Thursday of the month and when we set the calendar back um in the well in the spring and then in solidified it in the fall we had February 6th um which is the first Fe Fe first Thursday in February but normally we would have February break on the 20th um which is the third Thursday so we had our meeting scheduled for February 27th so I just wanted to ask the committee if it if it's something you would want to consider since we will be having school that week um do we want to keep February 6 the 1st Thursday and to February 20th which would be the third Thursday and that's a possibility one thing I would just like us to kind of if if people are okay with waiting to address this um till we're at least have that first budget meeting sure because during that time period we tend to have more uh more frequent meetings at some point and we'll be having in February our budget Workshop okay which tends to be in the past spent two nights okay so why don't we keep the 6th and the 27th and then as we needed if we needed to the the budget Workshop maybe a Monday or Tuesday if for some reason reason that falls we have at least have the flexibility that we have that LE yeah historically it's been two nights in a row we start earlier he's no longer talking to me this okay February 6 and 20th so we're gonna leave at the 27th Brian and then we'll wait and see to Sarah's point because we may need to actually add that as a meeting so let's leave it as the 6th and the 27th and then we'll see how we are doing with budget and we may and actually while I was going through all the past meetings I came AC Ross in the previous budget workshops as well as the budget hearing but the budget workshops may be different than what people are used to so if if um it's helpful I'm happy to take that link and send it out to everybody because know many of our principles haven't done that with us and you guys haven't seen the model up from either kind of then I would fast forward through the six hours to get an idea doesn't have to be six but with the format in the past opportunity to like visit yes I believe I will say we've gotten a lot of positive feedback on how transparent our budget process has been each of our principles and directors present their budgets and then answer questions to the public so what it's allowed us to do is really streamline budget board the budget Vari um and then people know that it's we're not just rubber stamping the budget that we're really um explaining what it is we're funding for education I can't um okay so any other um any other items no Alison you all set y okay great so I'm GNA take um ask for motion to adjourn so moved Alison second for the motion to adj Sarah you can just well I like to Ina in favor Alison Taylor in favor in favor we are adjourned at 936 thanks