##VIDEO ID:ejQSfVAuzrM## it is 6:30 Monday October 14th 2024 we will call the city of Mayor city council meeting to order if you could please join me with the Pledge of Allegiance I pledge aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all thank you that do we have any additions to the agenda tonight uh Mr Mayor I have no additions for tonight's agenda hearone I'll look for a motion to approve the agenda as presented motion we have a motion do we have a second second motion a second all in favor say I I sign motion carries 4 Z with that we will move to public comments if there is anyone who would like to discuss anything not on the agenda please come forward seeing none we'll close public comments and move to the consent agenda is there anything on the consent agenda that should be pulled for further discussion hearing none I'll look for motion to approve the consent agenda as presented motion second motion second all in favor to say I hi po sign motion carries 40 with that then we will move right into business items and we'll have a presentation from the Watertown mayor state of School uh from Darren Schuler please all right good evening mayor uh City Council Members thank you for the opportunity to uh speak and again uh commissioner Johnson uh administrator Johnson and and uh each year um since I've been here we've been able to come over and do a state of the schools address uh to the uh Council and give you an update on the great things happening uh within our schools and tonight uh our Schoolboard chair Hunter felt uh joins us as well to be a part of this and and so again thank you for the opportunity um we'll just click through and Nick are you got the controls it looks like um last year when we were here we had the opportunity to lay out our new strategic plans so we are in year two of our strategic plan and again uh those seven strategic commitments are truly uh what guides us each and every day um our board it drives our Administration and it drives our staff um in those seven particular areas um our vision card is our report card if you will all students have a report card um this is our district report card so this can be found on our website this is just a snapshot of what that looks like but um it gives us aric Direction how we're measuring that direction and then some of those descriptors uh in the middle colum of what we're using to get that information and then the level net in which we fall into um so each year we take a measurement of where we're at and how we're moving to that level four which is where we'd like to be in all of our areas which is that 95th to 100% um area in all of our stre directions one of the things I just like to highlight tonight is some of the feedback that we receive at the end of our school year and we ask our staff our students and our parents to give us feedback on on how we're doing um one of the things that um we talk a lot about is just our staff and how um they feel about coming every day um as teachers or as custodians or front office staff um everybody gets this survey and can participate but 95 or 94% of our uh staff agree or strongly agree that they would recommend to a parent that they would select Watertown mayor public schools for their child um that's a pretty impressive number uh 90% uh strongly agree or agree that a fellow staff member demonstrates a genuine concern for their welfare so uh again really encouraging staff to to be together as a team uh support each other um throughout the school year in inside inside School building and certainly outside to being there for each other um 84% agree or strongly agree that they would recommend a family or a family member or friend to work there um and that was one example that was a little low for us we thought it's 84% we can do better so one of the things we're working on this year as one of our goals is get kind of the bottom of that you know why are some of our staff saying I might not want a family member or a friend to work here so that is some of the work that we're doing this year and just building our staff climate our our next one is the parent survey and just two pieces that we pulled just to share tonight but 91% of our parents uh who took the survey agree or strongly agree that they are proud to have a child in the Watertown Mir School District um that also is on our vision card and you can find that on on on that document as well as one of our measurements uh 96% agree or strongly agree that their child has a connection with one adult in our school and that's a really big piece uh in terms of our connections with students uh that's a really proud moment to have 96% of parents saying that they feel their child has someone they can connect with at school and we know that will um breed success on the academic side as well and then uh in terms of our student climate survey 90% of our students and this is grades 3 through 11 we do a separate survey uh for our seniors but um our third through 11th grade students say 90% of them agree or strongly agree that they're treated fairly at school by teachers by staff um 83% agree or strongly agree that they have Fe feel seen valued and heard at school and this is one of those areas again that we felt this is lower than we've had in previous years um why only 83% said that you know agree or strongly agree that they feel seen valued and heard at school so again taking a deeper dive uh just understanding the Why students may be feeling that way and making those connections um one other issue that came up last year and this has been an ongoing Trend uh since covid um was just our districtwide uh absences and right now you've maybe seen in the news or in other Publications that um schools are really working hard on uh chronic absenteeism and that means basically 14 days absent or more in a school year uh you're considered um basically a chronic absentee student um so um we looked at the data across all three of our buildings elementary middle and high school um Elementary was about 19% um 177% at the middle school and almost 20% of students um so almost a fifth of our students were considered chronically absent um so that's a pretty big issue and so we're really uh one of our Focus areas this year is to reduce that percentage by about 4% um and just looking at strategies on how to do that early intervention when you see a student that's been gone a day or two in a row if the parent hasn't reported them uh absent for a particular reason you know what are we doing to reach out and make that connection on the why what can we do to support you get back to school um and typically in the high schools where we see our biggest concerns of students just not coming and for no reason um the flip side of this I think our data is a little bit um skewed in the fact that if you know our kids and some of you have high schoolers I know um they're gone a lot for other things and we have kids that participate in a lot of different activities a lot of different events so they're pulled in a lot of different ways so this data was um it was it was data that was for unexcused and excuse absences that number gets pretty high pretty quick but part of it is too we know our kids are active and they're out supporting unified sport events um and things like that and uh they're active but we want to get that number down because we know kids in in seats um are are learning and if they're not in seats uh our seats that's that's that's an issue uh one other area in our strategic plan that we're highlighting this year is our community ed program um and our Focus there is community provides a high quality and interest based learning opportunity for our communities some pretty cool data here I think uh you'll appreciate but 83% increase in our adult programs offered so we're continuing to really push some of our adult programming um 76 of% of our participants um rated our programming very good on their end of the course uh little survey that they take and then an 86 um% increase in participation so our number keep going up in our commun ad program programs which is is great uh and then 98% of the participants identified the program that they took uh met their expectations so some other data um which is interesting uh we offered 459 programs which kind of shocked me even uh the number of programs that we've offered uh last school year or last year um out of those are 144 adult program programs four senior programs 91 aquatic programs 159 youth programs and 61 Early Childhood um program so pretty pretty expansive um the one that's really catching on is Aquatics is kind of hit a rebound um our aquatic numbers are skyrocketing our pool is getting used at least six days out of the week and which is great we've done some major refurbishing to the pool in the past year and it's really paying off in our our participation numbers uh even we have offer private lessons they're booked um most of our swimming lessons are booked within the first few days so that's really taken off as as one example um and then our enrollments you can see the number of of participants in each of those particular areas so again our youth program certainly um is our number one but you can see adult programming is still doing really well and I think too our our program programming is neat and that we offer so many diverse classes um to really meet the needs of our community which is really fun um young Royals um currently right now is our it's our preschool program we have nine classes 98 students uh in our preschool programs and then our kids company is which is our Child Care Program and our child caring hands Child Care um right now there's about 294 students in those programs uh we are looking to expand our child care that is one of the bigger issues that we see I know certainly in mayor and Watertown um families just don't have um child care options out there so uh we have a proposal to expand one of two of our classrooms into a larger room that we can hopefully take on around 25 to 30 more students in that three to four range um so we're looking to do that hopefully after the first of the year we should be able to uh open that up our biggest problem is employment getting people employed in child care and just finding those workers that are highly qualified and it's not against someone you can just pull off the street and plug them into to work the next day the training is certainly pretty intense and you want highly qualified people working with their youngest children so um that's part of the problem we're struggling with is just finding high quality folks to put in those positions um because we know the need is there we hear that a lot from um our communities uh flipping a little bit over to some of our academic growth um this is data that we're extremely proud of um and we just did some comparisons to local districts around us in terms of MCA reading growth now the MCAS are are are Minnesota comprehensive assessments they're taken in the spring that's still the state's way of kind of showing how districts are doing it's a measurement of your your um District level growth so uh in the column on your left is our MCA reading growth uh from last year to this spring um and uh we grew 5.5% now MCAS are taking through third grade through 11th grade um so uh we grew most of the districts in our area uh math even more proud in the fact that we grew almost 10% from one year to the next year um uh in compared to districts around us so uh again seeing some really nice growth in terms of how our students are moving forward um parking lot construction if you've driven by some of our schools over the summer uh we've had some major parking lot and sidewalk and lighting upgrades um we use some abatement Bond funding to um complete some of these projects which were were needed um some major upgrades uh one of which and if you've come to the Middle School uh drop off area we created kind of a a center sidewalk area that really separates those two parking lots this parking lot in the past used to be kind of the wild west and students that were coming out of the building Nikki's rolling her head she was a parent I know that waited there picking up her own children but um our idea is we've separated the two buildings now high school and middle school for parent pickup and drop off uh we were really getting our Middle School parents to drop off and pick up and coming off a Avenue which is on the west side of the high school and it's worked out really well and that sidewalk creates a really nice walkway for our students to use the stadium the turf the track um and really creates a safer environment uh for kids um the one on the far left is our High School Upper lot again just uh retaining walls were falling down uh just needed a a major uh upgrade and and that got remodel as well as some new sidewalk for busing um students waiting for buses uh just didn't have a lot of space that improve that area and then the CLC was probably getting the most work um that is you know nearly a 100-year building um and some of the parking there was inadequate and also just needed some major upgrades so uh with that when you uh tear apart a parking lot um the County watershed makes you uh dig a little deeper and in in Retention Ponds and things so uh that project's taken a little bit longer than we had hoped but uh We've added some new parks in to the front of the building which um provides really a nice compliment to our our senior folks that use that building and have a little shorter walk um but it's also been a really nice addition and we're finishing up that project here hopefully by November 1st whether permitting um but we'll have um added new parking on all sides of the building with curb and gutter U also a new basketball court and pickle ball court um as well as an upgraded um baseball field that's been kind of off offline all summer um and we'll get that back and U nice upgrade on that so um some nice things are happening and again just like all projects you try to get to the finish line here before the snow flies um enrollment Trends I think I talked about this last year one thing that is concerning for the district um is our adms and again that's the average daily membership we call that butson seats if you will uh you can kind of see where the district has been since 20 17 was our high point at about 1572 students um and that's peaked and valed and certainly the covid year of of of 1920 to 2021 we saw a pretty significant drop of students you know um either going um nonpublic their homeschooling um those are the two main ones um and we just haven't got that group back yet and then we're also seeing a dive in our demographics so um we're certainly seeing across the board um again families just not having as many children um and so that's a demographic piece that we're watching this year we're we're at 1423 um so you can see we've lost almost about 150 students uh over that stretch of time was that about seven years of of time there so um obviously the district has to adjust accordingly budget wise um we did go through about 400,000 little over that last year um again this year we're hopeful um we thought there'd be some reductions we're going to wait and see where that comes in um but again um that is an ongoing Trend um for us and certainly we're looking we've talked to to Nick and and the city administrator in Watertown as well just talking about growth and what does that look like because that certainly impacts um our district as well and just a little bit more to where do District funds come from well 70% of our district funds come from the state of Minnesota um but we always feel that right now it's not kept pace with inflation and operating costs uh continuously um trying to update that um as a result of of that most districts depend on voter approved levies um for adequate funding and last time we had a pass one was in 2019 so you probably remember that um at about $492 per student so um the lby takes about 10% or 15% probably of our funds comes from that and then the other remaining 10% or so comes from federal funds so um but the state obviously with adms is our biggest piece um where we relying on our student population to drive our funding sources so um lastly too here a couple of cool items um niche.com is if you're not familiar with that it's a search engine for families looking for school tools so if you're a family looking to move out here to the West Metro Area um this is a very popular website they recently came out noted that uh Watertown mayor is the 25th best U public school in the state of Minnesota um pretty cool nomination which puts us in the top 7% uh in Minnesota public school so something that uh our parents and our staff uh and our students uh all should be really proud of so um if you get a chance just to do that uh jump on um I threw myself up there uh 11 111 reasons to be a royal uh one of the things that we're asking uh parents um and uh community members to just tell us why it's important to be a royal and again is we're just trying to to get the word out on the great things we have happening um in our communities and um in our school district and we're L looking for folks uh any of you if you're interested we would gladly take your statement it literally is a 25w or less quote on just why it's um valuable to be a royal um and we've got students participating we've had uh one mayor already well you can use another mayor uh to join us um uh but again uh feel free I'll reach out I'll actually send out an email too I can maybe send it to Nick but we'd love to have you as a council member or city administrator jump in and and uh just say a few nice words about being a royal just again try get the word out on the great things that we're doing on social media so and speaking of social media we have a great uh social media following but uh if you haven't followed us those are some spots to catch some of the great things are happening within our district so uh with that open up for any questions that you might have do you um on the MCA scores with the growth yeah do you know what the final like how we tally with the other schools kind of in that yeah right now we're we're we're kind of in the middle so that group that you we showed there earlier and I know if you want Nick want to go back to that um yep um we're right typically in the that middle area so we're ranked probably out of this group 10 three four five six seven n we're probably four or five in most most in the in the reading and the math in most of our um growth spots so yeah so we're uh you know we're obviously looking at wakon Delano is kind of our two comparables and we're trying to certainly catch them um and I think we're about two percentage points away from wakona and we're moving towards Delano as well so it is one of those things internally um you know MCAS aren't everything we know that it's just one Glimpse in time for students but the state uses that data obviously to get out there um and publicize so it's still important to us that our students try their best um and and and try to you know get that that uh continued investment from the student side so that is that is one of those pieces that I think especially at the high school level like what's the value in this for me so it's been a really change in our Paradigm a little bit to say it really is a reflection of our school districts reflection of our parents our communities if you're not doing well not giving your best effort that's all we're asking to give us your best effort but just in that one year of really kind of Shifting that Dynamic of of teachers really saying we need you to do your best try your best it's kind of gotten us back again to that mode of you know where we probably should be and where we can potentially be even uh further so but again it's just one meth one one piece of growth and it's not everything but yeah good question thank you Nick do you have anything no and again we appreciate uh Mr Johnson's uh participation I know he came over and did a tour with us in the spring uh he had lunch with us uh the other couple months ago with our new teachers over at Agave um again really appreciate his ongoing dialogue I know he's met with uh board chair felt and I a couple of different times just to talk about collaboration between the city and and the school district and continue to promote the the good things that both of us are doing so we appreciate that we appreciate the same and keep relationships built and and and coming and addressing us and Hunter um just building that relation keep yeah yeah anytime we can help absolutely thank you mayor thank you coming in excuse me and with that move on to number 11 the uh 2025 prosecution contract with Carver County and tonight we do have the county attorney Mark Mets here good evening Mr Mayor and council members I'm Mark Mets I'm the Carver County attorney and thanks for inviting me to come out and talk to you briefly about the prosecution contracts what we're doing in our office and kind of some trends that we're seeing in the county um from our perspective the cver county attorney's office contracts with 10 of 11 cities to prosecute lower level offenses essentially by Statute we're required to prosecute all fony crimes but the cities can contract uh with county attorney's offices or privately to do DUIs traffic offenses you know some gross misdemeanors misdemeanor thefts things like that Chan Hassen is the only city in our County that chooses to contract with a private Law Firm it's pretty unusual actually across the state that you'll have County attorneys offices that prosecute for the cities a lot of City attorneys you know contract out and you'll have a firm that does you know 20 cities and um so but what I think is good about that is we have a core focused energy and services um for our cities then and we're very victim service oriented and we go to all the bail hearings all the court appearances we have two and a half victim witness coordinators who will contact victims of crimes work with them support them advise them of what their rights and the process which is absolutely critical anybody that's been a victim and probably most people have unfortunately it's really important that they have that one-on-one contact and we we treat it really seriously our relationship with the cities so we've had this relationship for a long time with mayor and the other cities and our fees are essentially determined by what our costs that we have for prosecuting these types of cases and then we take the fine Revenue um and we reduce that off our staff cost and then the county cost allocation is a contribution that our County Board contributes to reduce the cost for the city so they can have these contracts and they really believe strongly in this relationship and so I think that's important as well and I appreciate you know that they do that and so we get a search charge essentially that is split between the cities based upon usage so we take a three-year average of how many cases do we prosecute obviously for mayor it's not that many city of chasa it's more significant and then just the last portion of that was there's a 9.34% County Personnel cost allowance and that's inflation and that's just countywide so I worked with our finance director over the last couple years to determine what's fair for the cities what what rate should we utilize what does the county have so that can go up and down depending upon you know inflation essentially so so then the next slide this shows our case loads so it gives a good idea of looking at the city of Mayor 22 cases we prosecuted again these are just lower level offenses in 2021 then 13 and then 13 in 2023 and so we have a 16 year average of you know 16 case uh cases for the three-year average so that's only 2% of all the cases that you know we handle um so then the next slide shows what the usage and the raid comparison is and then the contract cost so if you see the contract for 2024 for mayor was $1,870 87 and then the proposed contract is for $1,847 54 cents for 2025 so it's a slight reduction and that comes out to about $100 a case so you know that's something I believe really strongly in that we should be doing this for our cities to prosecute this and to give it the attention it needs because a thief is a thief if you will you know if you steal $100 or $ thousand dollars or $100,000 I mean I understand there's more significant consequences but you still have the intent of uh you know stealing from somebody just as an example so if you steal $10 in a grocery store we're going to prosecute that case and now we might have some type of um fair deal when they come to court to say okay we'll put you on probation you pay a fine maybe do some senten to service work if you don't have a record maybe you can keep that off your record in a year you know depending upon what the facts are um but we also don't look at it as though well that's such a lowlevel offense that we're you know we're not even going to be able to handle that we do you know always say We'll prosecute stealing a pack of gum and Fleet Farm and we prosecute for Carver two and we have you know a fair amount of crimes that occur out there so you can see from this chart you know the more High usage cities of chasa and wakona pay um more and CH and Chan Hassen obviously isn't in there so and the next chart so that is a pretty quick analysis I think of what how we charge for our prosecution contracts but I like to just talk briefly about some of the things that we're doing in our office and some Trends and and unfortunately we've seen increases in crime it's not profound or significant in terms of the overall numbers we've just seen more cases of criminal sexual conduct in our office and those are really difficult complicated victim crimes and so we've seen almost triple in some of those cases and it takes a a certain expertise to prosecute those cases so that's been challenging for our office and our victim coordination because they're you know some of the most important cases that we have um so so that's been an increase we've seen more uh increase in some Child Protection too um but our office as you know maybe some the viewers don't know this we don't just prosecute cases we have 34 employees 18 lawyers and we have a Criminal Division a juvenal division and a Civil Division and so we have managers that manage those different divisions so while we prosecute we also um handle all child protection cases for the county and we handle the juvenile delinquency cases so you know a 14-year-old that steals or breaks into a car or something we prosecute those cases as well and then our Civil Division we advise all of our departments and we advise the County board so we're the attorney for any contractual issues we're the attorney for legal issues that arise so it's a robust office it's really the biggest law firm in Carver County so the high-profile you get from the high-profile cases you know obviously like with Prince and some murder cases and things like that but the day-to- day is our lawyers are and and staff are working really hard you know to provide advice to our um to our different departments that we have public works and you know Social Services the sheriff's office employee relations things like that um another uh thing in our office that I'm really proud of is we created a veterans court and a drug treatment court so our veterans court started in 2014 it's just thriving and it's just the it's a really intensive cor treatment course for veterans who commit crimes and you probably are familiar with this in most counties now have this what it does is it really provides intensive services to these veterans who have served their country and have committed crimes usually because of uh alcohol drug abuse and or mental health issues so if we can get them these intensive services and accountability they can Thrive and they can complete this program after one one or two years and they come to court consistently every at least every month and they see the judge and they're held accountable by their by the other mentors and they're held accountable by other people that are in this and so we've seen great successes that have graduated from that program and then in the last five years we started a drug treatment Court which the focus is is similar in terms of providing intensive services but that's a different group of people than veterans you know veterans are um in serving their country and and then not falling at hard times but you know um having difficulties in their lives with the drug treatment is we want accountability as well and we want to provide those types of treatment and in intensive uh Services where they're accountable too so it's not a get out of jail free card it's you have consequences hey you tested positive over the weekend and so you're going to spend two days in jail what yeah you're going to have accountability so most people that graduate from these say it's it's a lot more work than the traditional probation that you go through but our goal is to reduce recidivism and we've seen that because it's just we're going to see the same revolving door our County Board has been committed from day one to these programs and it's really critical and our courts obviously are and so we've partnered well uh with Carver County uh and you know law enforcement uh Health and Human Services the Cor Sports probation because they're all taking on more work not getting more Staffing but taking on more work because they care and they can see this and they're proud to see the graduates come and say I was down and out and just to hear their stories about I never thought I was going to get to see my child again and now I'm sober and I'm thriving I have a healthy relationship so th we're proud of that because we often don't see the brightest side that when we're working on these cases and so you know we care about these individuals too we're not just there to say well you committed some crime we we don't want to see them we want to see them be productive members like you do too so we've seen a fair amount of now uh graduates in drug treatment court and the great thing about the drug treatment court is that we've now received two significant grants and so we just got an enhancement Grant of I think $750,000 we got a half million dollars to start and now we apply we didn't think we were going to get it a couple years ago and we got it so that's great because you know these programs cost money especially for testing and that's really important to frequently test them and ha have that accountability so judge um Janet Kane has been instrumental too and so I want to recognize her because um she helped start the veterans program the drug treatment and so she just retired last week and uh she was in the Carver County Attorney's Office for over 10 years ran the juvenal division was the manager before she became a judge and so we work closely with her with the the veterans and that's just a great example of our collaboration why I think Carver County is so special because we really do collaborate and while we have different roles we we try our very best to get along because the job's hard enough and so like let's just try to work together so we do things like we have a Justice advisory meeting where we meet quarterly to meet with our judges the sheriff chief of police probation all the heads of the Departments the defense bar and we get together we have lunch and we just talk about things and issues and you get to know and respect each other so you can work through these things and so I I know when talking to my colleagues and even the judges they're like yeah it's definitely a special place in Carver County because we can still be strong zealous Advocates but we can still collaborate for the best interest of uh people so and then we started a new case management system um we just finished it if you've ever done that it's like the stages of grief when you're going through that in your office because you know there's the you know the denial the anger and those different phases and I was like are we going to get past that anger phase yet of this because it's hard we had the same case management system for what 20 30 years in our office and it wasn't working efficiently and effectively and the costs were going up so it's a big move to change you know how your cases are processed that they've been working on um but we did and the county contributed $150,000 up front knowing that we're going to save money over the time because we're going to be more efficient and we're past still stages now and we're running and it's great because it's interactive and just for example like we get discovery which is evidence that comes in a file and a case and instead of having all these CDs and paper and everything we can get it electronically get in the case management we can hit a button literally to send it the discovery packet to the defense attorney and so we know when they open it up as opposed to here we got to package this in the mail and then they get they so I didn't get this or what so we're still working on that but um that was a big change for our office as well so I'm happy that we're we're coasting now I well maybe that's an exaggerate but we're doing we're doing better so um but the last thing I would say is really that when I go around and speak to the cities it's the dedication and the commitment of our staff and the office that breeds the success that we have and we really do have dedicated public servants that are committed their really their careers to helping people and we're all integral in our office and everybody's really critical and and so I'm proud to you know lead the office and really proud of of our group and what we've been able to accomplish and hopefully continue to and we have new goals as well so that's a snapshot a quick snapshot of our office and wanted to highlight things but I certainly appreciate the opportunity to come out and visit with you absolutely we appreciate apprciate it any questions thank you I do appreciate the presentation may I just want to say uh in the two years that I've been with the city of Mayor um it's exactly as you said my experiences with you and all of your staff have all been excellent I not had anything close to a bad experience all very helpful very supportive willing and eager to collaborate and it's it's been very good I appreciate that thank you my conversations with Nick and some of the present stuff we have going on or past stuff it's all that's smooth and communication's been great so I do appreciate it yeah thank you I'm available too so if there's something that's how we want to work just like you probably would like well just call me Mark and we can talk about or find out what and or if there's things like that but yeah thanks for allowing us to prosecute for your city as well and um and allowing me to come out and just visit great relationship yeah thank you thank you thanks thank you all right we have on a lift from motion to enter into agreement with County and the city mayor for the 2025 prosecution contract motion second any further discussion here all in favor say I I post same sign motion carries 4 zops and with that we will jump into ordinance 246 amending city code chapter 51 regarding utility billing collection and charges uh thank you mayor this is the exact same ordinance that we had looked at from the Workshop I did post it on the website the only I'd say change that I implemented on here would be the effective date I added this section at the bottom the effective date for this ordinance would as uh so normally when you adopt the ordinance you publish it in the newspaper and it becomes effective upon in publication the effective date of this ordinance based upon all our discussions would go into effect as of March 1st 2025 so before the April cycle perfect thank you any questions for the city administrator Hear n I'll look for motion to approve ordinance 246 motion we have a motion we have a second second we have a motion and a second any further discussion yeah I just want to say that I'm I don't agree with this I've you know we've talked about it I struggle with you know changing the date for minimal gain and efficiency to then have a list of exceptions that we're going to manage which will ultimately negate any efficiencies in my opinion um knowing that 20% of our uh residents pay within that grace period and then there's another 10% who are behind so ultimately impacting up to 30% of our residents I do not support this thank you any other comments hearing none all in favor say i i i p same sign I yeah motion carries three Z or 31 mistake thank you all right with that we will move to consider Action Land Use agreement with mayor baseball club for City Hall property usage thank you mayor so uh last uh meeting we had talked about the location for the storage shed be uh on the west side of the building here and then I had mentioned i' had put together a draft or land use agreement for consideration so we've got that before us here a lot of this is very standard terms I think in here some of the items that to talk about I had written in for the term for 20 years if 20 years is what we want to go with uh through and there uh for rent put in $150 per month for use of the premise uh and then one other item I would like to talk about for potential inclusion is uh we got the term for 20 years and we've got the rent at 150 but I failed to put in any provisions which talks about what if any rent increase and how that happens and what fact factors contribute to that um how that would be handled otherwise uh Standard Insurance here uh general liability on that indemnification it's a pretty simpler boil boilerplate agreement I did have this reviewed by um Chris Smith who is who works for the lake of Minnesota cities uh the league of Minnesota cities has a service that they offer to all cities where uh Chris will review any contracts that cities are reviewing to make sure they stand up to sufficiency so I had ran that past him he had a few edits on there but otherwise it was looking good so turning it over to council talking about term um the rental amount and then uh rental increase factors and how that ought to be handled thank you so any thoughts on how it is making additions did you have any input do you oh me and me and Nick talked earlier about this and is maybe a review every couple years to put some language in there do we want to I don't know if we want to put a specific amount of an increase do we I mean not knowing how economies are going to change and how things change you know right I you know like a $25 every year well what if after five years that's just way out of line and you know we just put that we review it every three to five every three years five years yeah and I think um normally if you if this would be a contract would say a private company cell phone tower rent for example and we're doing that we'd want to have factors uh rental increases in their 3% all of that but when we're working together with another local organization uh we're trying to help each other out in this whole thing I think that's where you then loosen up on that sort of stuff so I think if we included language that said every five years city council will review the rental amount to determine if if a change is needed and then we'll talk with the baseball club and work on it collaboratively okay with that and then I didn't get a chance to call you back uh later this afternoon two other things should we have a shed size in there not to exceed we talk a lot about the shed should we you know we can even make it a little bit bigger Maybe what it is going to be today but should we have something there where it doesn't increase to a 50 by 5050 you know Triple Decker well um I don't know if we need to I so off the cuff uh my reaction would be you could include language that says as of this contract the shed that's going in is 12 by 20 or whatever it is should there ever be should this should ever uh be requested to be amended expanded or otherwise torn down and rebuilt then it that must be then approved by city council that or could we put in like the size of the lot that we're providing them and saying it can't be anywhere than that could do that too counil approv or something I mean something like that I think the space was 16 by 27 or something like that if I remember mapping it out I mean the total location side was something like that yeah I think so I say 16 by 30 but let we just add something in there that if it's gonna exceed the existing that it requires Council approval what is the wishes of Council on that I'm open to whatever people want have something in there any strong feelings one way or another yeah I think the way you worded it before I said anything would be fine okay and my final comment is on the terms there that you happen to have up right there do we have to put the 20 years in either side can uh uh cancel it after 90 days do we need a year do we need that is that or is that just common language it's open that right right um you could have like 20 the idea being that 20 years gives long-term stability Outlook and typically you wouldn't cancel this unless you had a you can do it for any reason but given the special n special relationship between a local nonprofit in the city organization unless there was something really egregious or City Hall expands which probably won't ever happen but um you know some event some significant event to really change things um that's the 20 years is I mean it is legal language of course but there's a symbolism to it that we see this as a long-term venture between the two so you could throw 20 years in there otherwise you could do term that um five years and unless otherwise it shall just Auto renew every year thereafter so it just goes I don't know if it 20 years seemed like a long time but then the more I thought about it after we talked it's like well if either side can cancel this after 90 do you need that but I understand the commitment part of it so I I'm okay with it yeah I'm okay that yeah those just my thoughts we can leave it then if if everyone else fine with it so do you do you want a motion then with those couple changes so with the shed size I think I'll do the language I proposed if everybody's comfortable with agreeing base upon that I'll write good language otherwise I don't I'll I'll defer to Peggy on this one her being on the baseball board uh is there an immediacy to get this in place for the baseball club or can bring it back two weeks from now and so we can actually see the language yeah the only thing would be um I mean right we're probably not going to have a shed till the spring okay um the only thing would be uh prepping groundwork yeah now Mike and I and Paul met out there and we talked about that a little bit Yeah so I don't outside of that and in that case then let's you'll just do add update it and bring it back next Council yep okay perfect let's do that then that is everything then we'll move to city council reports council member Wagner the report on I have nothing F nothing Council NE uh we just had a virtual sidewalk meeting to just go over um the survey results kind of some next steps uh took some things off the list of priority we redid priority like re prioritize um the different sections um I think that's all we really talked about we talked about a lot of stuff but it was just it was good uh just in case any of the uh uh viewers are watching that had strong opinions about some of the sidewalk addition choices Birch Drive was dropped off the list it just ended up being way too contentious and most of the feedback was don't put it in so the committee decided to drop that off entirely and I think the one of the main focuses is fixing problem areas moving to cement over tar or asphalt and then really working on a connection to Fieldstone and then eventually making a loop uh maybe down 25 but that's secondary but it' be Seventh Street connection anything more no thank you and I have nothing more to report report on so with that I'll look for a motion to adjourn motion second motion second all fa say I I sign motion carries 4 Z we are adjourned with that we can jump right into the workshop and call thank you mayor all right uh first on the list 2025 budget updates I don't have major major well I don't have a slew of changes um for the general fund uh the tweaks in here the one is to interest earnings in 2023 was a th the budgeted figures 2024 we had it at three and then 2025 uh I'm upping it to 15 right now let me get that 41362 200 our interest earnings for the year at are at 36,000 uh it's doing a whole lot better investing in the funds that we have and then the general fund as you we uh saw in the packet the general fund fund balance is just doing a lot better so there's more to invest than there has been in previous years so the I knew this 3,000 coming into 24 was awfully conservative but that's what I like to do with my revenues to see how things were going so we're doing much better than that and I will recommend we stay conservative in that uh and go even though we've got 36 here depending on how things go uh put that at 15 rather than upping at the full route and if we continue to have good Trends hey great um but this gives us a little more leeway on the budget side uh for refunds and reimbursements reimbursements and this is under 42,1 which is our Public Safety department code going from 9,500 to 11,000 and this is the uh reimbursement that we get from the Carver County Sheriff's Office for our uh pair amount that comes from the state so normally if you have your own Police Department similar to how fire departments get fire state aid police departments get Paris state aid back so this is an amount that Carver County gives back to us each year for that pair Aid so they give it back to all the cities this years's uh we got back it was a little over 11,000 so that tells me I can up it to 11,000 knowing that it never goes down it always goes up based upon the expenses of Carver County so knowing that up it by a little bit there and that is it for the general fund so when we come down to end based on the adjustments we have we're currently sitting at about 25,000 revenues over expenditures and as we get closer to December we'll figure out how we want to balance out this budget accordingly work on that on the water end of things excuse me similar story penalties and interest adjusting down we're just not seeing as much as we uh had in previous years so bringing that down to 6,500 to bring that more in line with what we're seeing come in for this year excuse me and then again interest earnings a little bit uh too con little bit on the conservative side so right now we're looking at interest earnings on the water we're currently at about uh $6,000 on that no that can't be right I got to look at that again looking at that and it was already cresting uh close to that $122,000 Mark so upping that to be closer to what we're seeing in actual and I don't think we had any other changes on the sewer end so right now with a uh no increase to the rates uh keeping them steady and that'll bleed over into our next discussion after this on budget we're looking at a slight deficit about $3,300 on the sewer fund end of things uh penalties in interest decreasing that for similar reasons we already increased interest earnings at the last go round and that was the only significant change on that end so for 2025 budget we because the debt dropped off for the sewer fund and we haven't initiated the Wastewater treatment facility project and incurred that debt yet um we're currently sitting in a holding pattern until we see that happen so our revenues over expenditures are at just under $146,000 in the storm sewer fund uh interest earnings for similar reasons brought that back up uh investing that proper interest earnings are s currently sitting at $5500 for storm sewer um that will likely get up to the 700 by the end of the year so feeling comfortable bumping that up uh late fees decreasing that we're just seeing less late fees across the board and then for Capital outlay this had been returned back to 15 returning it back to 35 it was 35 this year with the plan to do the sonar the sonar project for our pawns to determine depth levels that did not get accomplished this year so that's we'll roll it over and do it next year so it's money we didn't spend that this year we'll just re-budget for it next year and that is the long and short on the budget updates any questions on any of those for me all right uh roll over then into discussions on the still on the budget but uh we had talked about the potential of how we're going to thread future um utility rates when we know that water debts dropping off we know that eventually wastewater treatment facility debt is coming on and what does that actually look like the general consensus of the council was that if we can keep things steady for the customers that's what we'd like to do rather than have big shifts in things so I worked on that to put numbers together uh for coun to take a Peak at so this is based off of our utility rate study that we've looked at uh last year we looked at it for the first time but still in there um looking at keeping the rate that you can see here flat 100% means it's flat so if it's 101% it means it went up by 1% uh you can see here in 2027 when the debt falls off looking at adjusting that down to by 25% of reducing that down and so you're seeing that actual Surplus generated in 2027 uh in that 99.4% and we discussed before typically utilities want to see that 5 to 10% actual Surplus range is where you're targeting but in those interim years where we look at actual Surplus generated based off of potential future budgets running a small deficit in 2025 we looked at this number isn't updated but that was a 3,300 we just looked that so about four and then 2026 that grows a little bit a bit due to inflationary factors at a 26 budget and then in 2027 that corrects itself going forward now that the debt has dropped off so this right here would be if we kept things flat that would be the deficit that we run but knowing that in the future that then turns back into a positive so it's not a Perpetual deficit and as you've seen from our financial reports uh this water sewer or the water fund is sitting well um end of year year for 2024 which we'll talk about I'm looking at uh about $485,000 in the water fund which is uh still a very very healthy fund balance so losing this to get back to this uh make it up you'll make it all back up in 2027 when you go down and look at the sewer rates again 202 I have in this I have the debt coming on in 2026 as a prediction Factor um so in 2025 there's you see that Surplus we had in the budget in 2026 assuming the debt comes on if it doesn't this turns into another Surplus but factoring in uh the debt coming in for the wastewater treatment facility you have a year of going down by 44,500 but then in 2027 again to balance that uh utility bill you would have to increase by 20% on the sewer end to bring it back into that normal range of 5 to 10 per. so the real question is that's all great on a numbers aspect but how is how does that impact your everyday Citizen and that's where we do these uh utility ba uh utility bill estimators so these are the two columns you're looking for these are all the same because rates stay the the same so you go when you go from 26 to 27 all other years being the same what does that look like on a monthly basis for utility bills so if you're using 6,000 gallons you're currently going to get charged $133 17 and that would go up to $134.3 the idea being as water rates drop and Sewer rates go up you're blending that into a nice smooth transition rather than trying to sewer rates go up early but water hasn't yet so rates go up but then water goes down so the water total utility bill comes back down we see it on the fund level but you're that your resident just sees the bill on that so holding rates steady that's what it does the funds I think it's an I at least from my professional opinion it's an acceptable impact to keep rates steady so that in the end this is a very smooth transition for residents in7 the water would go down and Sewer would go up basically but it would kind of be like a net number yeah a net can slight up as you can see here slight up but not as bad as if we didn't yeah okay normally if you just kept it true in 2026 sewer rates would jump that 20% but then your water rates are still up because the debt hasn't fallen off and then in 2027 your rates would drop down because now you're implementing your water rates water rate reductions in that this uses the fund balance to float it so that it's a really smooth transition anywhere between a half percent to two and a half percent depending on your usage I certainly prefer this scenario I don't see raising up for two years to bring it back down I think we should be able to manage through those two years we're not talking hundreds of thousands of dollars right I think we should be able to balance through that but we can look again next year y to see if we're in the still in the same track right yep and that's exactly what the this being our in-house document we get to updated as we see fit to meet current needs so we'll look at it every single year to make sure we're staying on track yeah ride it out so that's what I've got on those two fronts and then to so go on to the 202 year end predictions um this is something I like to do in house but uh now as we're getting towards the end of the year in 2024 bring it forward to council discuss how I we're seeing the budget line up uh versus actuals so by each of the funds the general fund the original budget was 1, 18838 I'm predicting it'll land in that 1.28 range and the bulk of the uh Revenue increase in that uh building permits are up again across the board you'll see this with the funds we intentionally budget low on building permits and building activity if you have great years that means you're going to have budget surpluses in the revenues but if you end up having a not as many built for whatever reason then you're still in line and you're still okay and you're not having to face a revenue shortfall uh miscellaneous revenues up by 10,000 that was we had when Metronet canceled their service they gave us $5,000 as part of a transition program if we needed to use it for well anything basically as part of that the other 5,000 is smattering of this that and the other thing so why they call it miscellaneous revenues I always budget those low because I you never know what miscellaneous is actually going to be and I don't want to get caught on a revenue shortfall interest income uh as we had saw up by 35,000 uh the biggest contributing factor though is the cell tower rent since we corrected that this year year and got that all back in order the back payments plus the months of rent that we are now getting uh since we have everything line is going to Total to be about an extra $75,000 into the general fund for this year which adds some good value and then reimbursements are up by 15 uh, we had uh the vulmer insurance rebate uh through the Department of Public Services reimbursement program that I found so that should be something we apply for every single year and for next year's budget I have that budgeted in and then we also had the LED rebate from the project we did we finally got that so overall in the I'll do expenses first before I hit the end point uh for expenses uh budget is the exact same as revenues but predicted year end uh about 20ish thousand Less on that and bulk of that is due to Consulting Services auditing engineering and legal being lower by about 22,000 on the whole between the three of them just haven't used them as much as we normally do and that's a testament I think to staff being more proficient at what we do and bringing expertise to bear so we don't need to rely on those Services nearly as much fire department wages were under budgeted by 10,000 I think I talked about in this past uh the spreadsheet that I inherited for calculating that was not accurate we have since corrected that spreadsheet so now it is accurate and that's reflected in the 2025 budget and Parks electric is down by 9,000 because that's what I thought we'd be using in utilities for the splash pad so since yeah since that's due to start in a week or so uh we're not too worried about the utilities for the rest of the year uh then the various other departments slightly up slightly down to balance out the rest of it so for general fund as a whole I'm going to be predicting we're about 200,000 revenues over expenditures on the year so la of better term extra 200 and if you recall when we T we're having discussions about the fire department pair expense and the total sum of that I had I had mentioned I had ideas about where that might be able to come from this was it but I hadn't penciled in the numbers quite as well as I was hoping to get a firm feel about this so if this holds true and I would say we wait until after the audit is complete so we have all the adjusting Journal I don't think there will be many Tracy's doing a fantastic job but I want to be sure once we have post audit figures that that 200 still holds true which I think it will but once we have confirmation of that then we can come back and talk about do we want to apply that towards paying off that pair expense like we discussed which was $219,000 and the general funding uh even if you take the 200 towards that and you're talking an extra 19 I that propose that would come up out of well either the reserves or we have the 37,000 that was budgeted just for payment of the pair expense for 2025 you just line item that part and then we're done with it and you're still ahead on things so that would be my as long as all the holds true that'd be my recommendation for dealing with that in the future and that's something we get to delete off as a line item we don't have to deal with anymore to get out of our hair so this is a a graph you uh if you recall from when the budget or not the budget the audit happen the audit Auditors use a similar graph in the presentation they do uh it's the budget budget amounts from year to year and then the actual fund balance although 2024 and 2025 aren't actuals quite yet and then our fund balance policy of how much we should have in there so you can see in 2024 we're floating up there in that range but I would predict if that holds true in 2025 that would then come back down because then you potentially spending that on the pair expense but just to get an idea of how that's relating with our fund balance policy as part of that so doing well and overtime we've been building that up to get it above our fund balance policy I think this is probably a bit higher than we want but it's getting close to that 100% funded which between 50 and 100 where you like to be uh for water fund um original budget of uh 5 40ish th000 predicted year end of 473 water sales are going to be down by roughly 108,000 and that's due to very low irrigation use uh our water connection fees are up by 35,000 to mitigate on that front because we've had more houses built than budgeted on the expense side of things uh uh expenses are up original budget of 500 3 $514,000 predicted year end of about 535 540 uh water plant electric usage is down and that's because we haven't producing as much water because what irrigation has been happening uh the two big contributors to uh the expenses being Higher One the water tower painting repairs that we had to do and then we had a couple of water main breaks that pushed our repair maintenance budget over the edge the two earlier this year that we had to deal with so for the water fund on that predicting year end balance um deficit by 66,000 overall all said and done uh so fund balance going down a little bit on that and in these numbers you gotta you got to flip them around a little bit as you get to the end here these these two should be flopped with these two because I the labeling wasn't great in Excel for that and I couldn't get it do what I wanted uh so you got to flip those numbers back and forth but we are staying above our fund balance policy and I think this is going to stay above our fund balance policy which is 50% which is a good one to have absolute bare minimum you want is three months worth but this is six months worth so we're still above that and looking at 26 27 not we're doing with utility rates we know there's going to be stability there on the sewer fund end of things um original budget is $679,500 has a lot more money I've got I just looked at it today 1.6 million invested with the sewer fund which is drawing some good Returns versus the other funds uh again sack fees are up by 35,000 more houses built in average on the expense side of things things original budget of 779 th000 and predicted year end of there I did two scenarios because we have the wastewater treatment facility engineering going on which uh planned but that is eating at line end up expenses so I did one accounting for the engineering and then one assuming that was just taken right out of reserved and we weren't letting that negatively impact our budget so to speak I mean it is happening don't get me wrong but just looking at what it would be if not if it was a regular year and you didn't have the treatment facility what would the budget look like type of arrangement uh so predicted year end 1.4 million but that includes uh wastewater treatment facility engineering if without it'd be at 787 uh uh slightly over uh slightly over expenses that but we approve originally we were projecting a deficit in the sewer fund anyway uh waste project earing up by 800,000 that was predicted uh Waste Water treatment facility cost down by about 27,000 overall and that's because we're again we're use since you're using less water we're processing CL at the facility Well no that's not true because that's irrigation I misspoke on that we're seeing less costs on that and uh Colin and I talked about it let me restate that we talked about that and we're not sure why the uh the electric use is down but we're saving electricity there so we're going to keep an eye on that but overall chemicals electric repairs Capital outlay are all lower than expected so that's our sewer fund balances you can see we're taking the dip down from 23 to 24 and that's entirely due to the engineering on the wa wastewater treatment facility and then we see since that'll be over this year that's not going to continue into next year we see our fund balancing fund balance drifting back up before we take on the wastewater treatment facility project the reason this dips down is our fund balance policy is based upon our budget so when the budget dips down like this because the debt is not no longer there the amount we hold for fund balance policy also dips accordingly storm sewer end of things original budget 84,000 predicted year end of 89,000 uh the interest income being the main contributing factor on that one on the expense side of things um engineering's down going from 53 sorry 53,000 to 175 engineering being down by 5,000 as we're nearing the end of the project out at the wetlands um we're just using less of those types of services repairs and maintenance which is the work being done out there down by three and then Capital outlay down by 30 because we didn't do the sonar on that so there you can see our fund balances as they continue to grow I think as we get into 2025 take a harder look once we do the son naring and get that we'll take a harder look at the rates see where they actually need to be because we're growing the storm sewer fund but we don't have future long-term expenses in place yet we know dredging is going to need to happen some other uh storm utility work we got to get that CIP and things in order to really help us learn where those rates ought to be they haven't been changed in years and the fund still continues to grow but we'll get that in order on that so that's my 2024 update on that so we'll get down to the fun talk well we'll talk about weed so January 1st 2026 so what I'd like to do with this this is more of a have Council be aware of where the discussions are starting type of thing I'm not looking to get in the Weeds on all the different Provisions for this uh this is going to go to Planning Commission to have the bulk of the work done but since it's a it's a brand new topic with cities and our city council this the office of cannabis management puts was task with putting out a model ordinance for cities to use as a template to help regulate cannabis now that it's going live in 2026 so this is based upon that template uh some of the major things in here just want to touch on um so read this in your at your leisure if there's anything in here that is jumping out at you that hey we should really take a hard look or make sure Planning Commission is aware of this let me know I think the big things in this we get down to the registration of cannabis businesses uh this is where I've been talk was talking with Mark Mets prior to the meeting cities can either keep the registration Authority which means you then license and register the Cannabis businesses similar to what you would do with tobacco businesses that are currently being done or you can choose to Carver County's willing to have cities delegate that off to the county for them to handle the registration work we keep the zoning control and the zoning ability but they take them would take care of similar to Tobacco taking the applications processing them doing compliance checks things of that nature uh very again I'll always reflect to this part of it mirrors very closely to to how tobacco is handled the cities in Carver count so talking with other cities the cities in Carver County typically that are doing their own tobacco compliance doing their other similar types of compliance checking they're tending to lean towards keeping the registration Authority because they already have the structures in place internally to deal with that that's just one added thing and their structure the cities that have delegated off the tobacco licensing authority to the county and let them handle it they're tending to look at this and go let's delegate that to cower County as well because then they can just handle it too because they're not mayor being one of them we're not we're not set up what we could be but we're not set up to do those types of registrations so as this evolves my recommendation as long as all things hold similar is that um the language in here if the city to chooses we would adopt a resolution that would then transfer that authority to Carver County that would as it stands now that would be my recommendation and in there it says we have can have no fewer than one registration for every 12,5 uh 500 residents within mayor City Limits and that comes right out of state law which mean this applies to the Cannabis retail businesses specifically so we have to have we have to allow one it's not a question you have to allow one but the limit in state laws one of those per 125,000 so we would have to grow to 12,51 before we were legally obligated to allow a second now that does not preclude the city to say hey we want to let as many as humanly possible and you could go it that way but you can't restrict any fewer than that on that front um other major parts of this a lot of this comes right from state law so I didn't change a whole lot of it other than some of the names the requirements for cannabis businesses oh I didn't bring up that graphic okay there are buffer different distances that we have uh we can take into consideration that are available through state law and let me get to that quick my apologies so there are minimum buff requirements depending on what the facility is so uh cannabis business a retailing business can't be within 1,000 ft of a school 500 of a daycare 500 of a residential treatment facility or 500 within an attraction within a public park that is regularly used by miners including a playground or Athletic Field um we I had some internal talks with John Anderson our city planner and he's had his eyes on this too we've been going back and forth on this and he raised the question of does a Regional Trail qualify as a an attraction used by miners which is an interesting question question to have so I've posed that over to the county to give them no I posed to ocm last week I'm sure they're getting inundated with questions every day so hopefully I'll hear back on what their interpretation is on that this really limits where this is an incredibly rough map so how the buffer works is it goes from the boundary line of the property and then extends out there from there however our GIS uh software doesn't do that the greatest so I'm able to create Circles of distances so I did that so from the basically the center and outwards is a thousand feet so you can see when we get on the North End that is at probably because your boundary lines actually here so that probably pushes it out even further so most of the boat shed uh any commercial on the North End is pretty well locked out got a little bit area of the norish shed or the boat sheds here that could possibly be that is currently Zone commercial the C1 District here otherwise the bulk of this blots out the entirety of the downtown as a buffered out area although if Andy metel is listening he has a wonderful business opportunity unless the Regional Trail unless the Regional Trail comes in the Regional Trail is a part then that blocks him but mayor lber could uh if they wanted to do a little sweet in here and and Rent It Out Boy they could have a little we'll see what Andy feels about that but yeah if the Regional Trail does apply there'd be a 500 foot buffer around that which would so that's a 500 foot buffer that's smaller Circle here you can just that would blot that out too that really and then you have the playground equipment here at Meadow takes out some of shim cor along 25 I should say but shim cor is left relatively unscathed with these requirements and that being our CI area that's in this sort of relation uh cannabis retailers tend to get treated a lot like sexually oriented businesses when those started becoming more prevalent back in the 80s 90s when that came about those regulations came into play a lot of those you couldn't Zone them out of existence you had to provide a space for them and those generally got relegated to the industrial areas was the typical practice for that so the buffers kind of doing that on their own um Discovery Park you I was could put a circle around that but there's no commercial up in this area if at some point in the future commercial would develop up this up this way the buffer would automatically apply on that so we look at the buffer map there a lot of it gets our existing commercial gets blotted out uh where that comes into play as where we get down into the zoning and land use section uh for the various types for cultiv cannab cannabis cultivation this would be for growing relegated to the agricultural districts and the commercial industrial if you ever had an indoor grower that wanted to do it on an industrial basis they could do it in the CI cannabis manufacturing of products in the commercial industrial district hemp Manufacturing in the commercial industrial district wholesaling and the CI cannabis retail and talks with John and C1 C2 and CI would be acceptable uses in his mind to have this in here of course this a could change you could ax out C1 that's not a requirement um C2 for sure aligns with what's being done there C1 is a close one and then CI for sure and that cannabis Transportation commercial industrial and then cannabis delivery businesses and that's type C1 C2 and commercial industrial on that any other type of use on that would be prohibited until such time as the city has had a chance to review the ordinance and update accordingly another um part of this is these are all proposed to be classified as interim use permits as as opposed to say an allowable use or a conditional use permit um the question becomes do you make it a a cup a conditional use permit or an iup an interim use permit and the biggest difference between the two is a conditional use permit per runs with the land so once a conditional use permit is okay for a site then it's good for that site for the existance of the site because it runs with the land an interim use permit runs with the owner so if it were ever to change City gets another chance at relooking at whoever's taking it over what their plans are things of that nature over time uh if cannabis becomes I assuming it'll become a non-issue and it just becomes a thing like alcohol this could change and these things can get more LAX but this tends to be where things are leaning as far as The Upfront thing until we see how this all shakes out uh hours of operation in here I've got here listed 9:00 am. to 900 PM this is something that'll get discussed um the state limits that uh the state limitations are 88 AM to 2 am uh Monday through Saturday and then Sunday 10: a. to 2 am but then law also provides for uh local units of government to restrict out 8: a.m. to 10: a.m. so state is 8 a to 2 am but the state says well as a local unit you could push that up to 10: am if you want to cut out 8 AM to 10: am you could do it up to 10 you could do 9 you could do 9:35 you can adjust that and then on the back end you can adjust that from 9:00 p.m. to 2 am. so if you thought 2 am's too late could back it up to midnight or 11 or 9 is the early you could back it up to as far as restricting those times so I just put those in there as placeholder numbers Planning Commission will take a look at it um actually highlighted this was the incorrect one I highlighted I should have highlighted the one up here for that temporary uh cannabis events those are allowed by law those are the hours of operation we can set on that oops go away another thing that we didn't deal with uh was lower potency hemp Edibles and this is something I know very little about but if you're curious on definitions that is right out of state law what a lower hemp lower potency hemp edible is I'm sure there are people who are far better versed in this than I am but consists of servings that contain no more than five milligrams of Delta 9 tetrahydro cannabinol or 25 milligrams of cannabol cannabi diol or the rest of that which I'm not going to go into but this is something that we haven't regulated this is stuff that gets generally added to um existing products pastries gummies lower hemp type of Edibles I'm not the full strength type of stuff if you have like if you see the the cans of things that all the THC drinks THC drinks yeah things like that that's what this stuff really is um I didn't do a whole lot with it because I don't know if we want to regulate it or not if it's a big enough issue that we really really care I say give thought on that as council members and let if you have strong feelings that we really want to get into it let me know if you don't think this is something we care about enough let me know they're already legal in liquor stores right yeah they sell liquor stores are they selling gas agents do yeah we can regulate them if we want I mull it over if you have strong feelings about one way or another and then last section here is just preserving some language if we at any point want to establish cannabis uh Municipal cannabis store we can but this does not obligate us to so that's the overview of the Cannabis ordinance we'll be taking this off to Planning Commission for further review and then January February have something for adoption in front of city council that's a good framework for them to get started as a starting point so I appreciate um with that uh that's all I have for the workshop perfect anything else on that before we close up all right then let's adjourn all right thank you thank you