##VIDEO ID:7xjKdzVF91I## [Music] n [Music] [Music] if you are here to present on an item today and have a presentation please go to the podium to ensure that your presentation has been received [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] he [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Laughter] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] please take your seats the meeting is about to begin remember to speak into the microphone as this meeting is being recorded for public record please stand by we are going on air in 5 4 3 2 1 good morning and welcome to the September 10th meeting of the Miami Beach historic preservation board um we have a a very exciting agenda today and I'm going to pass it over to uh Debbie tacket to start the um start us off um good morning everyone welcome to the uh historic preservation board meeting this morning um before I pass it over to Nick CER just from the city attorney's office just one quick announcement this morning um we will be taking 1525 lenux first on the agenda um and then we'll be moving on to 1200 Meridian Avenue which is the pickle ball so slightly out of order this morning um but with that I will pass it over to Nick ceris for the um City attorney updates and the notice regarding lobbyist registration thank you Debbie and good morning Mr chairman and members of the board today's meeting of the historic preservation board will be conducted in a hybrid format with the board physically present in the commission Chambers at Miami Beach City Hall and applicant staff and members of the public appearing either in person or virtually via zoom in order to participate virtually in today's meeting the public may dial one 888 475 4499 and enter the webinar ID which is 817 4834 7488 pound or you may log into the Zoom app and enter the webinar ID which again is 817 48 34748 any individual wishing to speak on an item must click the raiseed hand icon if they're using the Zoom app or dial Star 9 if you're participating by phone if you're appearing on behalf of business Corporation or another person person you need to register as a lobbyist with the city clerk's office if you haven't registered yet you should register before you speak to the board you don't have to register as a lobbyist if you're speaking only on behalf of yourself and not any other party or if you're testifying as an expert witness providing only scientific technical or other specialized information or testimony in this public meeting or if you're appearing as a representative of a neighborhood association without any compensation or reimbursement for your appearance to express support of or opposition to any item expert Witnesses and representatives of neighborhood associations shall prior to appearing disclose in writing to the city clerk their name address and the principal on whose behalf they're communicating if you're an architect attorney or employee representing an applicant or an objector you must register as a lobbyist these rules apply whether you're appearing in favor of or against an item or encouraging or arguing against its passage defeat modification or continuance lastly I'd like to swear in any members of the public and any members of Staff will be testifying today please raise your right hands do you swear or affirm that the testimony you'll give in this proceeding is the truth all truth truth and nothing about the truth thank you okay thank you Nick uh Mr chair the first order of business this morning is the approval of the July 9th uh meeting minutes are there any corrections or do we have a motion okay we have a motion in a second all those in favor okay um thank you uh we do not have any requests for continuances this morning so we can move right on to our first application um we actually have uh two applications for 1525 um lanx Avenue um I'm going to read them both we're going to hear them together although they will be separate um motions separate votes um but we're since we're going to hear them together I'm going to read them both into the record um and we'll take those first first application is HPB 24617 this is 1525 lenux an application has been filed requesting an after the fact certificate of appropriateness for the total demolition of the previously existing multif family Residential Building the companion application is HPV 23605 again this is 1525 lenux an application has been filed requesting a certificate of appropriateness for the construction of a new multif family Residential Building um with regard to the the demolition um which is 617 uh staff has outlined a quite extensive history with regard to uh building violations that have occurred over the property uh dating back to 2013 there were some significant um issues with the uh with the building um in terms of malfunctioning sanitary systems um that that continued for um a couple years and then in 2016 um there was a severe structural alteration that was not permitted and not authorized by the city um one of the unit owners at the time it was a co-op building actually cut through the wood joist um trying to connect a unit to the unit above um at that point addition violations were issued um and the city attorney's office was working for throughout this whole time basically and and I was tangentially involved as well trying to get the building repaired and into compliance um fast forward um to 2022 the the units all six units were acquired by a new owner and um the the new owner was not able to cure the violation uh they have submitted structural information reports um to that to that extent um in 2023 and I think several of you were on the board at the time um there was a demolition order issued at that time we notified the board we invited the property the new property owner to appear before the board and they did um the board issued some um General comments and also gave direction if the building could not be saved that any new construction shall be inspired by the previously existing building specifically that corner feature um so that's generally the history um the building was demolished it was demolished in April of 2024 um with the caveat that and after the fact certificate of appro ress should be filed within 14 days of that order which they did um and they are here before you today to ask for and after the fact approval for the demolition now in our in the resiliency code we have presumptions when a situation like this occurs when a building is demolished prior to the um board's review the first presumption is that any uh new construction should be a replication or a reconstruction of the original building the applicant has the ability to rebut that and there are three criteria uh the first criteria is number one a full replication or contemporary depiction is not required to understand and interpret the property's historical value number two other properties with the same Associated value have survived number three sufficient historical documentation does not exist to ensure an accurate reproduction so if any of these are true then the board can accept the rebuttal of the applicant and not require the Reconstruction staff has found in our analysis um that a reconstruction we do not recommend a reconstru ruction is warranted um number one there are three existing buildings with the almost identical design that are surviving today um and both of them are in North Beach one of them uh actually came before this board several years ago for a renovation in a new addition so staff um does not believe a replication is warranted the second presumption um is that the new structure be limited to the height massing and square footage of the previously existing building this um presumption may also be rebutted if number one the proposed new structure is consistent with the contact and context and character of the immediate area and number two the property owner made a reasonable effort to regularly inspect and maintain the structure free of structural deficiencies and in compliance with the minimum maintenance standard of the city code um staff believes that both of these are satisfied um we'll get more into that with the new with the second application um in terms of the the context and character compatibility of the new structure um but again we would note that this current property owner acquired the property almost 10 years after these serious violations um had been languishing and so we do believe that the new owner has done everything um in in his authority to come up with a a plan for this property um and that is um the recommendation for demolition so we are are recommending a a that the demolition be approved um with regard to the new structure um staff would note that we do believe that the building is within the context of the immediate area um we do appreciate that the design of the building uh has been developed in a manner which we believe does uh respect the previously existing architecture of the building with the glass corner um it is a contemporary structure which we were also supportive of we don't want to replicate or confuse anyone to think it's an a historic building so we appreciate the effort um and the creativity of the architect to design something that is clearly a building of today but also respects the uh historical architectural development of the city we do have a few um concerns one is with regard to um some of the paving on the site uh specifically the drive way we're asking that that be reduced from 18 ft to 12 ft um there are also we believe excessive amount of walkways um which would limit any green space or Landscaping on the sidey yard so we were asking uh for that to be uh reduced um we were also asking for the South elevation to be further refined to help break down the scale and subdue the vertical uh attenuation of that elevation at the fourth level we are requesting the elimination of the decorative column and beam structure um we believe that adds unnecessary Mass to the to the design um finally the applicant is requesting a waiver related to the height of the covered parking at the ground level um this particular zoning District requires a minimum 12 ft clear above base flood elevation plus one so that would be 12T above 9 uh this requirement may be waved by the board for up to 2 feet um and we do believe that that waiver helps ensure greater compatibility with the adjacent structures which are not elevated to base flood plus freeboard um so with that we are recommending approval and I am available for any questions that you may have does the board have any questions for uh for Debbie about this yes please not really a question uh just a I noticed a typo the second violation says it's in November of 2024 and that was 2014 that's correct thank you Debbie just a question on the unsafe you know the unsafe structures violation that so just so I understand the summary there all predates any of the previous legislation on ons safe structures and doesn't have anything to do with that at all is that correct that is correct yes yeah and I maybe you can either go about this now or later when talk about maybe more specifically when we're talking about the design how you kind of thought about the about the the changes that you're hoping to see in the in the floor plan the first floor plan particularly with the increased landscape what that might so in that's a good point I think uh we received a response to our comments from the applicant um a couple days ago and uh I believe they are going to present that today and they also have a handout for the board um in response to our comments perfect perfect all right uh thank you very much and would the applicant like to uh make a presentation thank you good morning Michael ganopoulos uh 200 South game Boulevard uh representing the applicant and owner of the property Ali dadon of M 3731 and 1622 Capital we are joined today by our uh structural engineer Yousef Hashem of yce as well as Steve abov an architect and historic preservationist uh who assisted us with this project the uh property is located on Mid block between 15th and 16th Street on lenux Avenue and Michigan Avenue uh the property fronts uh lenux Avenue as you can see on the screen this was the previous building it was originally designed by Leonard Glasser in 1950 and consisted of a sixun multif family Residential Building the first first floor or sorry the the area fronting lanx Avenue was a two-story building uh which Debbie had mentioned uh was was um altered significantly and the remainder of the building is a uh one-story building uh we are here today to respectfully request and after the fact certificate of appropriation of appropriateness for demolition the property history as mentioned earlier was acquired mostly in 2022 and 2023 um there were unsafe structure violations dating back to 2012 um I believe that it was mentioned there were uh significant issues with the building that was discussed in the 2023 board meeting and an emergency demolition ordered was was ordered on on April 17th uh as you will hear shortly from YF Hashem he will walk you through his findings of the shual uh report that he prepared I think good morning uh Yousef Hashim uh 99 Northwest 27th Avenue Miami Florida uh so the client hired us to go do an inspection on the property of uh April this year and uh when we went into the the structure we noticed uh tremendous uh amount of damage uh some of it is man-made some of it is uh environmental due to do uh moisture intrusion to the property uh do thermite uh action and just plain uh wet and dry Rod uh here what you see a pictures are of the loadbearing stud walls uh on the first floor and more of that you know it's the the the the load bearing capacity is is gone there is nothing you know it's it's the the the floor and the roof in that on that structure just held by glue and and and shearing basically uh and you see damage to the decking of of the second floors there been some repairs done but uh not quite enough uh same thing where you know the main culprit is water damage or water intrusion coming through the the failed roof in the middle of the building just a lot of water coming in and and uh doing its thing on the wood so you know we went through the whole thing and uh we try to see uh if there is anything that can stand and that's just the the whole interior the whole interior uh loadbearing capacity of the of the structure is is just zero thank you uh I would like to introduce Steve adov he was he is the architect and historic preservationist based on comments we received and feedback from the 2023 meeting we prepare preped a historic uh uh resources report which adequately documents the entire building including as builts and dimensions uh good morning Mr chair uh board members staff pleasure to speak before you again Steve abov principal and founder Heritage architectural Associates 4300 biscan bu aard we were retained to put together uh historic documentation for the property including the historic resources report on measure drawings of the exterior and photographic documentation of the Interior conditions this is a a site plan right here the first of all the building was designed by Leonard Glasser who practiced uh strictly in post-war modern style architecture he was prolific in South Florida in in in myo design of which this building is an example we mentioned some of the significant features include the two-story uh Bank of awning windows at the Northwestern corner of the building which reflect the double height space in the interior there along with a Eve which has a curbed sof so it's clearly a myo building and he was prolific as an architect in that vernacular this this do document shows the site plan originally in 1950 the building was designed to be two stories all throughout with with 10 units the design was modified in 1951 to be reduced to six units where a two-story component was just fronting lenux one story was the remainder of the site uh the rear units were accessed along a walkway primarily to the north where the the Western unit was accessed from linnux as depicted in this site diagram next please uh as um as we take a look here that shows this drawing shows the two-story U unit at the front with a double height space at the Northwestern Corner stairs leading to the second floor uh there was an addition at that level in the 1960s which was permitted which captured some space above unit 2 but you can see really this is mostly one story with the exception of the western Frontage there of unit one next uh this drawing depicts the roof plan as we talked about the two-story low slope hip roof at the front a one-story deck that's flanked by a 4 foot high ashar masary parapet wall and then um the on story low SL hip roof to the rear of the property next so this is an example the interior documentation what we did we did as as as much as we could with photographic documentation we have photo key plant that depict where the photos are taken this is the interior of unit one um the images at the top of the photos there show uh the twostory space the Northwestern corner there were some decorative checkerboard pattern in the flooring that appear to be marble stair with ornamental metal railings going up to the second floor level and below that the images below that show the second floor residential component of unit number one next please uh these are units number two and three you can see the nature of the Interior I mean it's really raw I mean t taking down the stud so there really was not a whole lot that we could document other than the um those conditions next please uh number four and five these show the typical interior residential features there were some kitchens kitchens were modified in the 1960s obviously there were significant uh modifications along the way afterwards and Renovations but most of the permited work certainly was completed by the 1960s but just providing a sense of the one story residential character that next please and the and the rear unit number six very similar to four and five next please so what we did for the exterior to provide some record of this building going forward we did measure the exterior we put together existing conditions drawings the drawing to the top is the primary facade you can see the architectural characteristic feature that we're talking about the abanded wind the bank of twostory awning windows that are uh framed by that uh concrete eyebrow very typical feature of Lio and that turns the corner as you see on the bottom drawing there which is the northern facade that drawing really depicts how this building steps down from the two-story uh primary focus along lenux down to the to the rear of the property but this facade shows the the entrances along the northern part of the building which were the primary access points to the rear units next please and finally the the drawing that we put together for the secondary features the Eastern facade the rear of the property the top and the southern facade drawings uh which were the second Ary facades of those rear units which just had individual doors and punched openings there so we do have documentation for the record thank you thank you that concludes our presentation and we would like to request time to answer questions and time for rebuttal so um I was going to ask uh Deb or Nick should we consider this as you presented it as one presented both should do you recommend that we we respect on to this as it's its own application and have questions and then vote on this and then go on to the second so we called both files together so this is this is one hearing on both applications you may take uh separate votes if that's the will of the board or you could uh approve both uh on one vote yeah and I think it would be helpful for the board before you make a decision on the demolition to review the new uh proposed structure because that presumption or that presumption has something about is the new constructure compatible with the context of the immediate area so I think it would be helpful for them to present okay perfect the new so we'll we'll do that we'll have the presentation of the second one but first before we start that does any may have any questions about this particular presentation all right thank you very much sorry I'm trying to figure out how to make this one screen good morning again michopoulos 200 souis Boulevard um here representing the applicant Ellie donon of um 37 M 3731 and 1622 Capital uh we are joined today by Kobe karp the architect Vincent fenzi the landscape architect our Traffic Engineers Langan myself and of course our colleague who you might know Michael Lin again the property is located between 15th and 16th Street on Lennox Avenue and Michigan Avenue the property is fronting Lennox Avenue uh the property is located in the Flamingo Park local historic district and the Miami Beach National register architecture District uh the property surrounded by low intensity multif family residen to the north east and south and a more intense uh used to the West which consists of low intensity commercial we are proposing a sixun residential uh building and a two-story building with an understory to replace a previous building uh notably it's the same density as the building that existed uh we are providing six parking lots I'm sorry six parking spaces um and the under story was designed to ensure a uh Sustainable Building for decades to come we're here before you to request approval of certificate of appropriateness for design and waiver of an understory height we are requesting to reduce the understory height from 12T to 10 ft uh 8 Ines to ensure compatibility with the neighborhood the existing conditions today are it's a vacant 8,000 foot lot um and unimproved we discussed the property history previously but what you see on the board on the screen is the previous building and I want to note this because one of the design features is a two-story double height uh window that is on the northwest facade and wraps around to the north facade um the architect and the design team as well as the ownership worked very hard to replicate this and incorporate this into the new design as you will see during Kobe's presentation hi good morning uh Kobe cop for the record if I would like to see if I can find a hand speaker and just walk over there to the boards and show you specifically um we have received uh the comments good morning I've received the comments from Debi and staff and we agree with um all the comments and that's what we've implemented into the project um right there the boards on top are the updated images um basically deleting the beam and so forth that we had on top also furthermore what we did There's a landscape plan here can I can I ask if we have a mobile microphone somewhere here we go yes so that's the image before and um that's what we got rid of um if you go to the next image please that's um again the floating um element on top there we got rid of and you can clearly see in the architecture we've worked very closely with um Steve and with staff in that we have the corner um glass on the west northwest corner and taking a contemporary frame um that was um originally um provided there and then if you also um be kind enough to go to the next image you can see the landscape plan and I have it here from the landscape architect which implements over a Debbie's uh comments thank you so much so this is the lenscap plan that actually implements the Comets um this is the image where we got rid of the floating elements um and also we were required to show clearly where the mechanical and the screening is we have a material sample board I'll put it here so it's easier to see and and um that's about it all the colors and all the elevations and all the materials are specified and again this is the corner um that we and the frame that we have been uh working with with staff to use the DNA uh the typology that was um previously um on the site thank you so much uh before you before you st just CU you have the The Walking M can you walk us more specifically through the um the plan and how you modified it yes so what happens here is that we're on Lennox Avenue between 15 and 16 and across the street is this beautiful building which is really the fpnl substation and what we did here is we created a vehicle path with the requirement was to make it only 12 ft and increase the Landscaping all the way around and you can see in the S plan that allowed us to have a greater setback from the east from the rear and that also allowed us to create more of a tropical Fe because some of because we're only six units there were six units there before there's six units there now three and three so most folks who live here will probably walk along the garden along the um landscaping and then be able to ascend up the staircase to their apartments on the first or second floor and then we also created a pool a minity area on the rooftop um for the unit owners um can I ask you one question while you're still up um there are five it looks like there are five parking spaces are there six units and five spaces or that's another space yes yes six units six units and five and five spes six baces correct well since I was asking questions would anybody else like to ask questions of Kobe well he up here you do no okay does work okay uh hi Kobe the volume that you show to the right of the building that's kind of see through is that representing the existing building there or what can be built next to the building yeah the next door building yeah and if you look at the elevation um of the context in the package we have um adjacent building right next to it yes correct and one more question the ground floor height yes that you're asking for a waiver yes the drawing represents the 10 ft or the 12 ft the the drawing that you have has the 10 F feet 10t correct and we and we agree with that yes okay right Kobe can you just take us through the your inspiration on the eaves um yes I'm just curious to kind of understand that form and I've been seeing a lot of that form lately around the beach probably uh thanks to you but uh I was just curious like how you reinterpreted that and and if you could explain it a little bit the characteristics thank you so the cor glass is what existed there before and it had an eve frame that came around it and wrapped the corner so we use that in natural material part of what we're doing here is whether it's um the stone or the wood or we're looking to use more vernacular materials um and so this design which is will be a condominium um what we're looking to do is use the original Edition the two-story Edition right cuz the the existing building was on story towards the back towards the east use that frame that was intended as our inspiration for our Corner treatment which will be most Vis V visible meaning when you come from Lincoln Road and you're walking South along Lennox you will see that image and that is um what we studied furthermore staff felt that the rest of the building should also be with finished materials and that's why we have the vertical um wood or we have the uh Stone on it on on all facades so that neighbors um around us would also have that um finished look and that stone is the Trav team that's in this um deck over here or yes okay yes yes thank you R oh I'm sorry okay escal and then Ray yes Mike your micop put your mic on please sorry you have six parking spaces one of which is handicapped yes and you have six units yes does that meet the minimum code requirement for parking spaces for a condominium yes we that's what it it means yes we could actually if we wanted to put lifters in there but we decided that six spaces are more than sufficient yes it's all right and also staff had concerns about the visibility and the screening and that's why you see the decorative wall that we have all the way around Ray Kobe I appreciate you know the fact you've maintain the corner with the glass but in the original building you had like it was all two floors of glass and you've cut it off with the balcony um you know I almost like to see it cut back the balcony made smaller and actually be able to see two floors of glass there youve sort of cut it off and to me that that's not really acceptable to me I can study that sorry thank you Ray anybody else have questions all right um I should ask if you um because we kind of jumped in there you have more to present or no that concludes our presentation I would like to note that we met with Miami dat preservation league as well as the Flamingo Park neighborhood association and both recommended uh our project for approval um there was a condition I believe in the Flamingo Park neighborhood uh to make sure that there are no leases less than 6 months and one day which we agree with okay all right great thank you um should we do board disclosures or have something you want to now would be a good time for that yeah just one thing for the applicant so we um and we had a chance to review the response to staff's comments there were two items that I don't believe were fully addressed um the first which is also one of our recommended conditions is the uh long-term bicycle parking within the require within the front yard um we were asking for that to be eliminated it is permitted within a required yard however it is not permitted to project more than 25% of the required setback so as of now Cor ly shown in the plans it would not be permitted without a variance right because it's projecting much more than that um so I just was wondering if you guys had a time to look at that comment as well and have any response and then the second comment was with regard to the uh South facade design um particularly once you get closer to Lennox that that kind of blank even though it is uh has a materiality to it uh will be very visible and we were asking for that to be broken up um potentially with some horizontal um attenuation or horizontal features just to break that that large vertical surface up a bit so Kobe did you take a look at either of those yes and we agree with the comments to implement additional horizontals on the south facade and we are looking to find a way to implement the parking within the set backs um and I think we will have a solution to be sent to you from uh us this week if not um we'll have to come back and beg for variance which hopefully we do not need to do okay would anybody like to see um the parking the plan where the do you all know where the where the bicycle parking is now and where it's proposed could you put that back up just to just to show us um couple of quick notes uh so what you see here on the screen the top left building was the building we submitted with the rooftop decorative beam um and column that was eliminated as you can see on the bottom right picture uh we felt that because of the elimination it improved the and reduce the scaling and massing of the South facade and and Debbie you're okay with that being you know I think that that vertical wall that barely has any penetration at all should still be further refined and broken up in a horizontal manner to a certain extent I think I'm comfortable working with um the team administratively on on making some subtle breaks in that facade you mean the wall where the arrow is on the yes okay yes Bri did you wait just to further clarify the wall to the right of where the arrow was on the on the south side that right there where he's his oh that wall okay yeah and that's that's one of the conditions and our recommendation that they work with staff to break that that wall up a bit so you want some horizontality that yeah I think that would be very helpful just because you don't you know walking around Flamingo Park you don't typically see a blank giant 30 foot exp like okay yeah the part yeah I think you're going to go to the plan yeah if you can use the cursor somehow to uh point out where that is for folks so on the screen this was the site plan uh from before so this we incorporated staff's recommendations and reduced the driveway from Lennox to the parking from 18t to 12 feet the long-term bicycle parking is located right here where I'm circling and that was placed there primarily because we received feedback from staff that they had wanted an active uh Frontage along Lennox so that is the reason we place it there and uh we could work with the team uh to to move it okay Rey you had a question I don't really understand the hoopla of the bicycle parking I mean you have City bike that Parks bikes on sidewalks in parking spaces on the street and all of that it seems to me there's nothing wrong with the way they have this laid out did you want to address that to it sounds to me like the issue is is that they need a variance in order to do it the way that they want to and that's not currently in the application did I get that right that's correct okay correct it's too far they need a variance when it's actually on their property because it it's only it's only permitted to encroach the front setb back is 20 ft the required front setback the longterm and this is long-term bicycle parking not like a bike rack or you know the ones that you see throughout the city in other words if it was a bike rack it would be okay bike racks would it would be much different this has to be a covered storage area I was that was actually going to be my question long term so this is permitted to encroach only 5T from the the I understand that now okay thank you you're welcome I wanted to ask about the long-term bike parking whether it was what she's describing or whether it was a a bike rack and how it's going to be secured because I mean that's an issue right and you can look at the you can look at the first flow plan and you can see where we had the electrical Transformer but that's where we're looking to put the bicycles um in in the on that location which would be at the the rear of the property on the east side correct within the covered garage that's what we're working on right now okay with our Engineers okay um if there are no further questions for the applicant thank you very much um great presentation uh we'll ask for board disclosures uh I was at the Flingo Park neighborhood association meeting last night where they presented I think that's it all right um public uh public comment um let's see anyone in in Chambers please come forward I Mr chair I see on Zoom we have uh Daniel Caldo good morning Daniel good morning Daniel do you swear or affirm that the testimony you'll give in this proceeding is the truth whole truth and nothing but the truth I do thank you so much good morning uh historic preservation board members Daniel Caldo I'm actually calling you from another Leonard Glasser building which is the Arta Welcome Center where we are in the process of installing our Henry huser exhibit so I'm sorry I can't be there in person but our advocacy committee did review this project and we thank the applicants for reviewing the designs and our concerns and we support the overall project um we think that the reference to the prior historic building through the use of the corner windows and some of the other vocabulary is distinct but also compatible we also definitely support the waiver to reduce the height of the under story and I want to point particular attention to that I think about 10 years ago a lot of changes were made in the zoning but if you look at the elevation even with the waiver you know these under stories uh which are already I think the the base starts 3et above of the road um you're talking about potentially having you know uh mega trucks underneath these buildings so I think we do need to really refine our zoning code and we're very supportive of that waiver to make the undor more of a realistic height still resilient but but definitely more compatible finally we do know there's a lot of concern about demolition by neglect happening all throughout our city and Beyond and we were very concerned about that not happy that it happened here but given the new design and the compatibility we are in support of this thank you very much okay thank you Daniel our next speaker is Johan Moore good morning Johan good morning Johan do you swear or affirm that the testimony you'll give in this proceeding is the truth all truth and nothing but the truth yes I do thank you very much good morning board members uh chair and dear staff uh I actually am in the meting today to speak about a later matter as a as a resident but I want to comment on this as a as a member of the sustainability committee uh on behalf of the committee I want to thank staff for its insistence that uh proper Landscaping is an integral part of maintaining contributing buildings uh for any one of the number of reasons including uh beginning to mitigate possibly inferior levels of insulation and such uh thank you very much for that uh my other concern uh is that uh maybe there don't need to be uh six parking spaces in light of recent incentives to uh a more car-free lifestyle in our very pedestrian neighborhood and possibly eliminating one of those covered parking spaces uh could provide for bike uh storage my final comment not on behalf of the committee but as a member uh I'm certain that staff and the board are keeping in mind the possible last eventual need uh for wholesale elevation of our historic district depending on sea level rise uh and that was my only concern with reducing the parking height from 12et to 10.8 I think it was uh are we in fact keeping in mind the fact that we may need to elevate buildings in the future in looking at the design I see that that lower space potentially could be sacrificed am I right about that in case of some drastic and abrupt sea Lev rise uh I just wanted to put that long-term thought in the board's uh mind uh thank you very much thank you Johan uh Mr chair I see no other members of the public wishing to comment okay uh thank you very much does the applicant wish to comment on anything that the on any of the public comment no no okay thank you okay well with that we will close the public comment and we'll open it up for board member comment um I'll just go up the line here and um start with Ry if you'd like for this one like to make any comment about this my only comment was what I made before regarding the balcony not going in front of the corner window to make it look more like a two-story window so um just let's let's go through these and then we'll we'll keep going so thank you thank you Ray that was it okay Laura thank you so much for the presentation um I really think you did a fantastic job on the design I clearly see the the um references and um nod to the historic architect and um his previous work um I I do think it's a fantastic project on a pretty you know typical 8,000 foot lot in Miami Beach so I'm happy to see a sixun not overdeveloped overdesigned um structure it just kind of um fits contextually so I really do appreciate that um and also appreciate the efficiency with addressing some of the staff concerns which um you guys always have the best concerns um so and really thank you to the um the owners for their investment in this historic neighborhood I think it's a fantastic project and I'm very supportive thank you askco yeah I'd like to Echo what Laura said I think it's a very elegant design that will stand the test of time it's compatible with the neighborhood and I applaud the owners for uh selecting a great architect to uh develop this kind of design Kudos thank you right um no no change of opinion here I think it's a topnotch I really um really love the materiality um that was presented and agree that the context is is is right on right on par um I I do think that there needs to be some sort of a solution on that quite expensive wall and so I'm confident that you guys can get to something that will break it up because I I think Debbie has a really good point on that and just want to applaud that you guys working through with the city and um with us to to get to a good Solution that's always really reassuring and um feels like we have a good outcome here thank you thank you Elizabeth yes so I think you got plenty of compliments already I don't need to repeat them no I I really appreciate the design the only thing that makes me me feel a little bit uneasy is the height of the ground floor and we've been talking about the test of time and my concern is let's say moving forward 10 20 years the streets have raised because of flooding we need to raise the ground floor up to avoid that flooding and what happens to the use of that ground floor if we raise it too much we lose the parking and it becomes only pedestrian access and if you have to raise even more you lose completely the ground floor and and that's where I'm a little bit une about maybe we should allow for a little bit higher floor to ceiling height to accommodate potential future needs or just we agree that when the situation comes we will lose the use of the ground floor and I'm not sure what's the right answer to that but I would just like to open up to our to the board and you guys for a discussion uh thank you and uh lindsy so I would probably Echo a lot of what has been said I really um appreciate and understand you know circumstances that exist here um I'll just mention because we haven't talked about it a lot and even though they came before us you know prior to this um and it came up last night at the neighborhood association so I guess I feel like Duty bound to mention it um you know there's a lot of discussion about demolition by by neglect and this is not particular to the this owner because I know he came in later but you know it's one of the issues that we Face especially in these smaller condoman buildings that occupy Flamingo Park um you've got to get six owners on board or at least board members somebody's going to take the effort to take care of the building and I don't know what solution there is to that but I think at some point maybe it'd be a worthy discussion item for us on how we might be able to address that or I I don't know what Solutions might be out there for it because I honestly don't know what they are um you know if you if you're adverse to your Condominium Association board you don't necessarily have any say because you know other than voting them out right um and if you've got a board that does or a building that doesn't have the money or the reserves and most of these buildings don't aren't required to have their reserves based on the new law um so they're not three stories or more so um it's a whole another story whole another discussion for another day but I just kind of want to bring that up because I think it's it's relevant here um as far as the design goes um I I really love that it hearkens back to you know uh what was there before um I think you did a great job Kobe um I I agree with staff comments about breaking up that South facade um with some sort of like horizontal elements um and I appreciate that you guys are willing to do that um I really like the long-term bike storage I know that's a an issue trying to sort it out but you know as someone who lives in one of these smaller type units what do I do with my bike right now it's it moves around my apartment all the time because I'm not going to put it out on a bike rack because it will be gone um so something like that I mean I think it's very important so I just want to comment on that I appreciate you guys incorporating that into your design um other than that you know thank you for bringing this to us um and you know hopefully uh you know elevating our neighborhood one by one all right thank you um I'll I'll just add that um you know thinking about uh first of all the um the fact that we're dealing with a contributing building that's being demolished is something that we uh to take very seriously so I also consider this to be an important item for us to keep um to keep addressing and understand how we might um avoid this in the future um maybe there are ways in which incentives can be can be offered or other other ways that we can um help to kind of think collectively about how to preserve the the memory of the of the past and through the historic fabric um so yeah I didn't I didn't want that to just the fact that this building is being demolished is a very is and it's a contributing building in a historic district is a very is very serious thing for members of this board um and uh but that said I think that I I'll go through the present so that was the that was the past the present I think that the current Uh current project is um is really outstanding uh really great job Kobe I I don't have any problem with the third floor uh you know West Department having a balcony um I I I think more life on the street is better um but and I don't think it interrupts the the flow of that vertical um those vertical windows so I I I'm I'm happy to accept this as it is I'm I'm delighted that staff will be able to deal with the horizontal windows on the South Side um as they as they have and I agree about the uh yeah that that large expanse and I'm also really happy that you got the have the the bicycle uh the bicycle rack in there and that you have the um uh taken the rooftop down a little bit so that structure isn't on top about the about the 12T versus 10 foot 8 uh height below the building I I was there are two obviously two mines there's one that the 12T space is a bigger darker deeper space alongside the road for for for us to kind of experience which is not part of the historical fabric of this particular building it exists in other building types in the historic district um and but I'm not sure that the that the and that and to the point that the in the future there may be there may be incremental elevations to the to the floor to the to the to the street and then to the floor level under there I um I I don't see the 10 foot 8 versus 12 foot um difference as being a um a deciding factor here I would think the deciding factor at this point should be on which has the greater flexibility uh in the future which one would give you the ability to raise any any I see that there's I don't know where the elevator um I think the elevator's on the roof but still you can't have the you can't have the catch Basin below the elevator flood um the elevator will not function so there's that's a very critical um uh component because you only have one elevator in this building and if that elevator goes out and somebody's on the third floor and they are not able to access their apartment or either get out or come come and go it becomes a a life safety issue so I fall on the on the opin of the opinion that it would be um probably appropriate to maintain the 12 foot I defer to staff on this but just as since we were talking about kind of how to think about this if we're thinking about future proofing uh historic the historic district I think one of the ways would be to maintain the um would be to sacrifice a little bit it would increase that floor that that floor level but it would sacrifice a little bit of the um of the it would sacrifice it would sacrifice some of the the way the building appears in a non-historic way from the street but it would add the ability to be to be future proof so um Debbie do you want to jump in because it's a good just real quick and and we do look at all of these on a caseby Case basis in this particular project it's a narrow site um grade is at four ngvd so it's pretty low here and the requirement for that 12T the 12T would be measured not from grade but from nine so so the perception of the height if you're at a 4ot grade and you have 12et above nine in this instance we thought would create some incompatibilities with its surrounding um you know if gr had been at five or six that then that incompatibility gets reduced a bit um because all of the other buildings are at Great or above typically um and so we do believe that with 10t 8 in above 9 ngvd there is still ample room to adapt the building in the future for that ground floor because even if the streets and sidewalks went up 3 feet which there's no plan to do here three or 4 feet you would still be able to have an adaptable space in Florida you know Florida ceiling clearance um that that could be used as some type of purpose MH so that was where we were looking looking at it um but I respect you know the board's decision and and sea level rise is a real thing um and it's something that we we will need to adapt these buildings in the future I was did it just just for clarification and then I'll I'll let it be tell me so when when just so everybody understands when the when the that ground when that um when it's raised from 10 fo8 to 12 ft does that mean the height of the building is also raised or does that mean that the height of the building stays the same but the but the fla Florida ceilings reduce the maximum height in this district is 35 ft that's measured from base flood plus free board the free board would be a maximum of 13 ngvd so the so even if their ground floor bumped you know in in the second floor above the 13 ft that wouldn't increase the height right because they wouldn't be able to measure from that slab they'd have to measure from 13 which would be which is below okay let just a clarification so the proposed current finished floor elevation of the ground floor is 9 ft so how do you go from four to five in that 20 foot set back there cuz the car there seems to be in a pretty much flat space so we have a a slope that um leads you if you look at the S plan we have a slope that brings you into the drive and then we also have um The Pedestrian path along the um South so we have the slope just enough uh to make it there so I'm sorry hob what's the slope the the ramp to go from the street to the to the part area thank you so much for putting up the section here it is on can you see it on the screen that is the slope that we have um right there into the site in the can you use your cursor to of course of course show right there thank you so much right within the 20 foot setback within the Landscaping along the west side thank you thank you all right uh with that is there are there any more any other comments uh then I think um thank you did you have another comment yeah if I may um we would just like to add the short-term rental condition as part of the resolution as well are you okay with that well short right so shortterm rental are not permitted as it is um in this zoning District so it the I guess the profit would not be necessary but we could um since the applicant is making a voluntary profer we could include it anyway that way if the code ever changed in the future uh the profer would control yeah yeah okay all right thank you very much so should we um can I have a first can I have a a a motion for the first for the um for the demolition uh portion of this application Rey moves any seconds second Elizabeth okay let me call the role Miss level yes Mr erck yes Mr Meyer yes Miss Weinstein Burman yes Miss carmargo yes Mr Breslin yes and Mr Stewart yes okay that passes and then we have uh HPB 23605 for the certificate of appropriateness which does include the waiver as well is there a motion I'll make the motion to approve the project subject to the um the certificate of appropriateness including the modifications that were discussed that will be ironed out with staff um including the horizontality on the on that um wall the bike racks the short-term rental exclusion as um endorsed by the Flamingo Park neighborhood association and proferred by the applicant proferred by the applicant so that it stays with the property okay second I'll second Lindy thank you okay let me call the role Miss carmago yes Mr Breslin yes Mr Meyer yes Miss Weinstein Burman yes um let's see Mr Breslin did I already call you Mr Erick yes Miss level yes Mr Stewart yes okay congratulations thank you thank you have a great day how are you okay our um next application is hpb24 0622 this is 1200 midan Avenue um Flamingo Park and applicant the application has been filed requesting a certificate of appropriateness for the introduction of pickle ball courts um very excited a lot of people are very excited about this I was I was speaking with the chair men earlier this morning I've never tried it but there does seem to be a a lot of excitement around this particular sport um so maybe once these are built I will check it out yes I recommend lessons um so this is you know obviously at the request of the city this is part of the parks department uh plan to increase the amount of pickle ball courts throughout the city um this particular application has um they were able to identify an open area within the park that is not currently utilized um it is north of the handball courts and south of the baseball field so staff has uh no objection to this particular application um this these courts will be surrounded by other active uses so this this is not a passive portion of the park um we've also noted and we also uh confirmed uh through reviewing the Flamingo Park master plan that this will not conflict with the approved Flamingo Park master plan so all of the other elements that were approved will still be able to be constructed um this is a relatively simple application I have no further comments we are recommending approval but I'm available for any questions you have and we have our parks department here as well to answer any questions any questions for Debbie about this application no no okay all right with that um would the applicant like to present sure good morning um members of the board staff uh thank you for having me this morning my name is Tara Patton I'm with the company planning and entitlements in hail all the way from Boon Beach uh Florida so very proud to represent the city of Miami Beach and in particular the Parks and Rec Department on a project that they've been working very hard to implement uh as staff indicated um we have a lot of uh folks on board waiting for for this project to come aboard so I appreciate you hearing me this morning there we go thank you um this is a request for our certificate of appropriateness for the construction of three pickle ball courts within Flamingo Park uh as indicated that uh the city Commission in the budget for 2324 uh has approved the construction of three pickle ball courts within Flamingo Park uh the construction of the pickle ball courts will be overseen by the city of Miami Beach Parks and Recreation Department and the scope of the work will include the following three B pickleball courts measuring 34 ft by 64 a new perimeter fencing 10 ft in height new lighting a new concrete padn sidewalk an installation of benches a drinking fountain and trash can I'm having trouble thank you thank you um so here's the location of Flamingo Park as you all probably know it very well um you will I will forward to the next slide but here you'll see Flamingo Park as you know bordered by merdian Avenue and also um Alton Road um up at the top uh this the street closest is 15th Street with the street uh bordering on the south by 11th so as staff indicated um this project is compatible with the Flamingo Park master plan so on your left of your screen you will see the master plan as approved I Believe by your board and by your uh City commission um n item number 21 uh indicates here that the pickleball court construction will commence in 2024 so item number 21 is right here so on the slide next to it what I tried to do is blow up the area here in question so where item 21 is on on the master plan um I blew it up a bit so that you could see the exact location so as you well know uh parking for Flamingo Park occurs on Street on both sides of Flamingo Park on Meridian and on Michigan and then uh you also have a parking lot uh here off 11th Street uh so if you were coming from your your car you would take The Pedestrian walkways up to the proposed pickle ball courts here so you would be coming either from here from the or coming from the East and the West uh up to the proposed pickle ball courts uh so here's a picture of the site plan blown um further um so you can see what's occurring here in the before so we really have nothing in in this passive space here um I believe uh the staff found a very good spot for these courts to kind of be a continuation of the uh handball court area and so what is occurring is that right right off of this little pedestrian roundabout we're just creating a 10-ft sidewalk that comes off of the roundabout walkway and that will lead you to these three pickle ball courts here and we will have the 10-ft perimeter fence that I spoke about we'll have the um Associated lighting so that the court can be used uh during evening hours and then um we're adding some uh Furniture some Street Furniture if you will that will accompany the construction of the Courts so uh here's a graphic that you show was shown in the initial slide um of the court so this is obviously looking to the north from the south and you'll see that they match pretty closely to the pickle ball courts that you have at your golf club in terms of color and and such um so here's a further um sort of descriptor of some of the uh elements that will be added some of the furniture so um here you'll you'll see that you have uh your your the three pickle ball cords and uh what we're incorporating as I indicated is the new lighting so here's a a picture of the proposed lighting fixture we'll be adding the chain link fence so again this is photos from uh your existing Peck courts that you have within the city so it will U very much so match um in color and style uh then we'll be having a new trash receptacle um uh again that will be compatible with the existing trash receptacles in the park currently and uh new benches and again these are benches that have been utilized uh in your um Park in in the golf club uh so outside of the Court outside of the fencing we'll be putting a new concrete pad so there'll be some addition additional pedestrian um seating area so that is the the spec for the benches that will be placed out outside uh the bike rack that will be added and um the water fountain uh I showed you the model here in in this uh picture but it will actually be silver in color so I just wanted you to have an opportunity to see what the actual Fountain will look like but the color will match what's existing within the park so in compliance with the certificate of appropriateness as you know the staff has outlined um the various components and so for brevity I included just the three major bullets obviously the staff has found that we comply with the sea level uh rise appropriateness criteria and in addition to the other criteria in terms of the physical alterations of the surrounding property and being compatible with the surrounding properties uh within the historic um neighborhood and the architectural elements within uh the site and in the park so if you have any further questions again I'm Tara Patton I'm here to answer and I also have um staff here from parks of recreation I just like to say um a very special thank you to Polar who really helped pull this together on behalf of parks recreation thank you thank you very much um are there any questions for the applicant yes Ray the only thing that jumped out at me is why do you have a black chainlink fence instead of maybe a nice green one that looks more um Environmental friendly around this whole thing I think what we're going for is just to match what was existing so we're trying to match what's existing in the Parks and the black is seems to be more commonplace than what other communities are using um throughout South Florida and throughout Miami Beach so we're just trying to match what's in the The Golf Park oh black does hold the heat but that's okay right um just further on some of the continuity design continuity um uh aspects that I just wanted to uh zero in on so one is the actual design uh excuse me the color palette of the part of the the quarts themselves is could you give us could you give us a little bit of background on that is there I don't know much about pickle ball so is there a certain color or you suggesting that the ones at myi Beach Golf Club are exactly this same color and that's why this color palette was chosen correct it's because we're we're matching what is existing at the golf club and works well and and the blue color seems to be um um in terms of the paint and the liftime of it it seems to minimize any potential to have to come back and repaint um so the the the Blue Asphalt is also indicative of pickle ball versus green or any other color like that that was going to be my question okay I just want to make sure and then again I have not yet played pickle ball yet so I didn't not know that I thought that I thought green was the more appropriate color here but um on the question of the Street Furniture um could we just go back to those benches just to I just want to understand the difference between the two and then again on this second bench with his flourish here where what was the inspiration for for that one with the blue and is that is that what's currently in the park as well I believe it's my understanding that the that these blue benches are already spec because they're already existing in the park so so those exist like outside of the tennis facility and everything in that same color same okay remember okay did get your tennis record though I I haven't played in a year I guess that's the problem that's it okay anybody else yes Lindsay um okay so a couple of things um one I'm I'm struggling with this word that keeps getting tossed around in relation to our parks and talking about utilization of park space because there is certainly something to be said about passive space in a park right and the park is already I I think we've heard testimony in this in this boardroom before something about 85% programmed but that said I mean I think if you were going to activate a space in the park this is a a good area to do so but I have some questions um one of the other things and this was brought up in a meeting not too long ago um that you know one of the functions of the park is to you know provide for drainage and places for the water to go when we do have these Sunny Day flood events and and rain I don't I'll be honest I haven't gone out in the rain in this particular area um you know how are we dealing like what is this the existing condition like when it is raining are we going to have issues with that now that we're putting a concrete slab and then asphalt over it I'm just curious about those questions and I think when we get done you're going to get have a chance to answer questions um and then you keep uh hearkening back to uh Mani Beach Golf Club where they have the the blue and green uh pickle ball courts but I think to me more importantly is whether or not it's um it's uh in line with what's in Flamingo Park if we're going to compare it to anything and I just pulled up Google Maps and I see that the basketball courts are blue and green at um and I I think they're still that color have and is this the same color scheme I guess is my question so I mean you know those are the things that I the questions that I have were just the basketball courts at uh in Flamingo the basketball courts at Flamingo correct yeah um and I was pretty sure they were the blue and green and I pulled up Google Maps and they are I'm just curious if it's the same color again trying to be in keeping MH Reay yes one other curious question it looked to me like there was certainly enough room to have a fourth Court why didn't you do four instead of three I believe that that's what was budgeted by the commission was to have these three function of budget um yeah go ahead and then just one other question on the handball courts um what the is there a lot of use for the with those handball courts as well yes yes there is okay I just was curious if there was thought that you were potentially going to re kind of frame that area and make it more efficient let's say currently we we had there's but obviously if people are using space I'm not suggesting there's so much demand for pickle ball that we had to place down temporary pickle ball lines there to accommodate for the P but also for the handball I was told that there was a hand there it's a handball um uh facility and and it's widely used at all times okay yeah thank you there's a lot of attendance there year years ago they tried to repurpose that in Flamingo Park neighbors were all up and arms against it so yeah yeah Lindsay go ahead um and then I wanted to know about um the the hours and the light mitigation I mean you talked about playing in the evening hours I mean I play tennis so I get it but the lights have to go off at 9:00 so sure well the hours Park are they vary uh depending on uh the areas uh but typically uh for most areas it's 6:00 a.m. to 10: p.m. and it would pretty much follow I think it would probably follow the handball court hours which are 8:00 a.m. to 10: p.m. okay yeah all right and then um someone had asked at one point about the the noise and what's that's going to be like in the neighborhood and that that came up during the flamingo uh uh Park Association and it's over 300 feet from like uh it's about 300 feet from Michigan um and you've got landscaping and a dog park before you even get to to that so it's already inclosed between like as Debbie said at the beginning the baseball field to the north the handball course to the South and uh the dog park to the West okay and and chair I just so that no one gets ansy I noticed we have somebody raising a hand we are going to have a moment for public comment yes yes we will yes this is just this is just our questions for the applicant um and I have a I have a couple as a person who plays tennis or pickle ball every weekend um I know how brutal it is when in especially in our particularly hot summers and I see absolutely no shade so I would like to see before this is approved that there are shade structures put included in and around this court this you you really it's unfair for you to expect people to be able to play for an hour no this in when you're at the court yeah yeah no not like you can yeah you can go to your car you can get to you can get to a building but really when you're playing and that's why I preface this is somebody who plays you like those like five minutes under the shade to get back out into the core between or between rounds is very important will you be able to promise that you would be able to provide this it's something that we can look into are you looking in are you asking for a permanent shade structure like what there is at the out out fitness umbrellas yes but you don't show any there are umbrellas at the May Beach golf course that were proved there and we can provide andore yes okay you will do that okay as part of the order we can include that or I might say what might be nice is some shade trees around and about I mean you know yeah that's something we can provide as well you know we'll we'll be mindful of the adjacent space and the flamingo master plan when we do this we can always work with uh with son okay and I had a question about the lighting um because there are questions about light pollution and you're adding a light to the evening Sky how do these lights can you tell me how the lights um actually address light pollution how they're focused they they are focused it's the same as the lights that have been installed throughout Flamingo Park so they are technology has uh come a long way and so those lights are focused and you will have very little spill over or no spillover past the courts they are specifically designed to to have lighting just on the courts okay and that and that Arrangement I've never seen lights just at the corners of a of a facility like that are you sure that's going to work who was the lighting consultant that you work we haven't that we we haven't completely uh got to that phase we are working with musco lighting which are the vendors that we typically use that we have sorry we have used uh throughout the park and once we get to that phase that'll that'll be permitted out and we will uh design that so that it meets the photometric uh okay it didn't seem like it would work as drawn and finally um can you talk about the height how much we' talked a little bit about how you're raising this um how the how how we're raising things in the city but you know these these facilities are incredibly important to be dry quickly and I mean I've seen so often that they that they puddle because um they're low and other areas around them draining into them how how much are you raising this how much are you raising these courts above the surrounding elevation and how are you draining it well I don't think we've got to that okay that much detail in these plans um that will be addressed rest um I know that part of our our plan is uh you know for parks to be part of like where when it rains where flood where you know you flood waters would would hold um I I would assume that we would get this above that there may be some water intrusion but it's something that we would consider so that we make sure that the water drains off course definitely yeah it's just I don't see any drains drawn on the drawing even even being proposed and I don't understand how that will work understood um chair they um when when we would go in for building permit um you know we were tasked at this point just to do a site plan a general site right which usually includes drains yes sir um but we we weren't we we haven't reached that phase yet the general contractor will um hire a engineer civil engineers that will prepare a grading plan and that grading plan will ensure that we're not flooding the adjacent areas nor flooding the court okay so that's that's very important point you raised okay and is that something Debbie that you think you guys can handle administrative yeah that's that's something the building department would be reviewing and our public works department it's not something that planning has the expertise to to comment on okay yes Elizabeth no just a couple of things so the designer and me cannot be quiet and since John was asking for a shelter space there is that nice area where the benches are and the trash can are the wider seting area so maybe that could be the perfect place to provide some shade there um I don't know I was looking at this drawing here this area that we follow the same design as we did at Miami Beach Golf so that's like an area where uh players that are waiting to uh play pickle ball would be waiting and we have we would have uh umbrellas there to provide shade as well you know and the benches for SE and so where is the water fountains located I don't know if there is more than one it was located just outside of the entrance uh to the pick ball courts uh okay it's yeah the dry maybe this little okay uh and my another question is the everything will be asphalted within the fence or just the carts themselves who have asphalt and the light blue between is another material everything inside of the fences is a core it's asphalt would be asphalt and is that really necessary to be everything El you don't really contain yourself to within no but I mean I understand no but but there are other surfaces that provide a good walking surface without being impervious asle that's why I was asking because there are alternatives you can use I mean I understand to play itself you need the ball to pick and you need the ass but the spaces in between there are other hard surfaces that allow for you to walk and run without being assel and that could improve the permeability of the area since it's such a large area um I think the only portion that you would maybe be able able to do that is where the seating portion is because you do need space in between the courts like it's it you need to be able to run off you know things that nature so that that would be the only opportunity if if that was something that was required okay thank you one question for Debbie do you think that the um CU The Umbrellas that they said they would provide was that something that staff can review for color umbrell concerns with that I know the tennis court has some of those little structures um so I think and we have them Northshore as well correct so I guess my question along those lines is and and this is more of a practical question maybe not under our purview but you know at at uh Mi Beach tennis center and at the golf club um and even at fling Park Tennis Center you've Staffing who move the umbrellas take care of them during you know they're all they're retractable and they come and take them down when it starts raining or when there's weather and they take down the wind screens when there's weather and so I mean obviously there is staff at the parks but not in the same way and so I'm curious how that gets addressed if it's not a permanent shade structure but if it's permanent shade structure then like what does that you know what kind of issues does that cause so as far as like you mean like daily that's something that would be addressed when you open the courts daily like right but I mean when when the rain you know when the rain and wind picks up oh who's gonna take care of these umbrellas that that become projectiles no yeah staff does we we make sure to go from you know park to park and all all the items that we can address you address for sure yeah all right perfect it's going to be a great great facility so with that um there are no more board questions for the applicant so yes go ahead yes sorry just one other question again I don't play softball but is is there any issue with the softball and pickle ball proximate proximity and the soccer and the outf the softball field I mean the the sof just in terms of like Aaron balls or whatever depends on the air of the softball you know if you've got someone who's capable of hting that far there's no way to stop that I do believe that there is netting proposed around the uh and what's what's the height on that netting I guess is my question I think because I I don't have those PL FR me I think it may be 30 feet I think so I mean but that's something I think that you inherently like as you're walking next to a field that you have to be aware of but that's just you know all right um so with that uh thank you for your responses really appreciate your presentation are there any disclosures uh they presented to the Flingo Park neighborhood association although admittedly I was working on other things so okay all right great um any public any public comment yes if you're in the audience please come forward um to give your comments and Mr chair we also have people on Zoom good morning my name is z movich uh 1605 Pennsylvania I'm a pickleball player and I also represent USA pickle ball Association I'm as as we call it ambassador of of that Association so first of all uh I have a hat because I had some surgery on my head so I apologize for that uh the uh second thing that I would I would like to say is a huge thank you to the mayor and and the Parks and Recreation staff John rebar Jose Cindy uh thank thank you thank you so much it it was it was really a Forward Thinking of of that team that is making Miami Beach uh really a Mecca of of pickle ball and it's uh leading uh all of the county in terms of pickle ball uh Miami Beach has been on the Forefront definitely so it's a it's looking forward but it's also building on the tradition Flamingo Park has been a hub South Florida Hub of Racket Sports since 1947 a very important year for me uh it's been uh junior uh Orange Bowl and we had huge tennis names grow as as players in Flamingo Park and now we see Agy play pickle ball we see minro play play pickle ball we see Carling Basset who was a junior uh Champion her children playing pickleball uh so uh it's it's it's growing and it's getting into different demographics and uh as I wrote to to Debbie we all know how it's growing and how it's enhancing the the quality of life now one interesting aspect of of this is that there is a Pilot Court since January in in Flamingo Park actually west of the house building and we see it used extensively by the neighbors by the neighborhood I I uh go there every day I talk to the people we have about 100 people on on the chat that are following the activity there and I can tell you that it's about 80 90% neighbors they they take the scooters they walk they take their bicycle like I do and uh that's what's going to continue I believe and uh I thank you very much for hopefully support of these three chords additional three chords now I I I have a couple of answers to the questions the question of noise uh the the noise pickable noise is measured at 70 DB at 100 ft which is about uh the the noise of of a washing machine and and we have like Li mentioned 300 ft so it's really not not a concern and the current I I think I'm running out of time uh the fourth Court uh was was considered by I think that the money could be found do you need another another minute just just a quick one but but I think it's it was mostly a design consideration because the fourth Court would cut into the other area and you are very uh I think concerned with the design that that additional Court would cut into the the other area that's used for soccer and and other activities thank you very much okay okay thank you on Zoom I see Andre Aion hi andr do you swear or affirm that the testimony you'll give in this proceeding is the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth yes sir thank you very much thank you you have three minutes so uh I have two questions number one is was there any consideration we taking two of the 17 tennis courts in the tennis center and converting them into four pickle ball courts and my second question is in the event that that's not an option I would suggest to put the pickle ball courts just uh north of the five tennis courts so they're all sort of bunched together instead of putting them in front of the softball Court I'm not sure why the space just north of the five tennis courts if it was considered or not anyone Andre you can you can use your three minutes anyway you wish and then if if you know if staff can provide an answer that's okay yeah that was it that was those were my questions thank you so in just just to respond to that Mr chair if I may in the master plan that was approved that area north of the tennis courts was reserved for Passive Park area um so I I think that probably was part of the parks department consideration for the current location the master plan included number 21 that we saw right was that the that was that was pickle ball courts no yeah I don't remember what was number you showed a master plan with uh yeah the approved master plan is having a number 21 where the pickle ball courts were going to be so that conversation should have happened at that point probably yeah okay thank you that's it I don't see anyone else from the public okay um then uh I don't think the the applicant would like to say anything uh about what the public said you're welcome to but otherwise we'll open it up to uh uh board uh board member comment and uh I can go one by one Lindsay what if I went down this way Lindsay should I start with no okay I can start with Ry Lindsay looks at me like a deer with the headlights so Ray uh would you like to uh make a comment I'm I'm ready to vote I okay ready to vote all right uh thank you for your presentation um happy to support a active healthy NE historic neighborhood um and hope some of the comments that my fellow board members on the details um get addressed by staff thank you thank you for bringing that in front of us today uh anytime someone brings additional amenities to the residents of Miami Beach I fully support you and I thank you for it um I think that this is a a great use of our park space uh I'm told this is one of the fast Fest growing Sports in the United States and I think that uh the city should you know be embracing new uses for our public spaces um and it seems like this has been well thought out um my comments only relate to all of the continuity of the design principles but it seems like you guys have um already thought through all of those um aspects and that they will be consistent throughout all of Flamingo Park so thank you thank you Elizabeth you have anything there no I just appreciate the presentation and the design thank you very much my kids will be very happy to know that there will be more Pi bar carts on the park and I just want a quick clarification in our package we have this bench here and they presented a different one with the round armrest and blue which one is actually the one being proposed the there are two different benches the first one goes interior so those would be the ones that are inside the court for those waiting to play and then the blue benches that we were that we were shown earlier those will sit outside of the court and match the balance of the park okay thank you let's see um not a lot of comments that I haven't said although I will say you know I appreciate um one of our residents coming in and speaking about this that was the piece that I think was missing for me um I was like where did this come from you know I I understand it's the fast growing and the set and the other um and I knew that there had been like the temporary lines at the rec but you know for me that's kind of popped up out of nowhere and so I appreciate the you coming in and sharing that perspective with us thank you all right well thank you very much I think this is a very exciting uh application very exciting proposal for our for our city um I I do think that um that uh some of the some of the issues will need to be addressed in terms of um at the ground level like exactly how this is drained so that it's as Avail as available as possible as many times as possible um at the uh level of the of the human inhabitant I'm hoping that you'll be able to um work with staff on appropriate umbrellas that can be taken up and pull pull down when needed but you know because definitely you don't need them at night you don't want the Shadows at night but you you need them during the day when you have when you have shade and I'd also like um you know just looking at one of the images that you guys sent about about a four corner model uh lighting proposal for the space the they have to be very very high these lights have to be very high in order to reach interior to the three in to the court I know there are very few many fewer courts here I just hope you work with staff because those are obviously structures that are going to be uh permanent um and I hope you work with uh can work with staff on those things that are um that are within their expertise so if you're okay with that um I'll ask for a uh a motion I sorry I'm getting off getting out of a Cod uh I make a motion to approve the Pres the proposed design with all the comments from the staff and the shades brought up by John I'll second that okay um let me call the role Mr Erick yes Miss Lovel yes Mr Meyer yes Miss Weinstein Burman yes Mr Breslin yes Miss carmago yes Mr Stewart yes okay thank you okay moving on to the next application this is HPB 2000 uh excuse me HPV 24612 this is 2001 Collins Avenue application has been filed requesting a certificate of appropriateness for the installation of a retractable canopy structure at the second level roof deck um this is an interesting property I think uh most of you know the story it was originally the Dempsey Vanderbilt Hotel it is now part of the saai hotel property um while it was originally constructed in 1936 and designed by Henry huser in the art deco style of architecture was actually a a reconstruction so in 2002 when the saai condominium uh project was being constructed um unfortunately there were some serious uh structural issues during that time and the building was the original historic building was demolished and uh the board later reviewed andove approved a reconstruction of this particular um uh building um currently the applicant is proposing to uh introduce a retractable canopy structure at the northwest corner of the building so this is the portion of the building that that fronts on Collins Avenue um the canopy structure is approximately 30 by 40 ft and is proposed to be set back about 10 ft from the 21th street facade and 22 1/2 ft from from the Collins Avenue facade um so staff has um while we they have set back this canopy structure at our request um from all from both sides of the building it's important to note that it will Ste still be visible uh at The Pedestrian level particularly because Collins Park is such a large open space and when you stand back into the park this will be a vis visible um staff does not believe this will have an adverse impact on the character of the historic district um or the contributing building however um to ensure that we have included uh recommended conditions that any uh lighting fans speakers fixtures um be integrated into the canopy itself and that nothing be kind of an attachment um hung from the canopy because those you know in in the roll down shade structures as well those over time can result in what looks like a you know bit of a makeshift building up there um so with that uh without protection we do believe that uh this satisfies the certificate of appropriateness criteria and we are recommending approval and I'm happy to answer any questions you may have any questions for Debbie about this seeing done welcome sir good morning good morning good morning members of the board uh my name is Daryl Brown First Look Solutions and I'm representing the saai hotel Acquisitions for the certificate of appropriateness um their main request is to have safe shaded dry area for the residents to enjoy the outdoor space one of the things we all enjoy about living here in South Florida especially here on Miami Beach um which I also enjoy that space too when I go there for meetings because of the Brees that come off the ocean um so that's one of the main reasons why the um residents would like to have the Shaded area in that location I'm not sure you have any questions for me you underneath that Shad well underneath the Shaded area can you ask it again on the mic huh can you just ask it again on the mic I didn't hear what you said I just wondered what is actually going to be under the Shaded area I mean it's going to be used by residents but it's it's oh the there is going to be outdoor um Lounge seating for the residents to sit and enjoy the outside but there's um no sell of alcohol or anything it's just for the residance and why would they go there versus going next to your pool um well some residents you know do like to be away from the pool in the noise of the pool and like the people watch and look get the different side of the location of the property okay ask I have a question yeah is this a permanent structure of the shade itself or does it retract it's a it's a permanent structure um with the retraction of the roof area that goes back and forth fabric so does that automatically retract during high winds or does someone have to manually operate it um they're looking to have it automatically tracked to high winds automatically up to a certain level of winds beyond that it retracts yes okay yes Brian and is there a proposed bar food and beverage element here or no so what what would be the intended use just to enjoy the fresh air or yes okay there will be any lights uh loudspeakers anything like that um they would there looking to just have lighting but um yeah we haven't sorry Alex yeah could you come up to the mic please if you're going to answer thank you board and thank you for having me as well I'm Alex forer I'm the general manager of the siai my be representing ownership here as well so we would intend to have maybe some background speaker Lean Forward just a little bit we would intend Maybe to have some background speaker music but we don't make this a mandatory demand if that would not be appropriate lighting for sure as well but in line with the uh ordinances which we certainly would go with thank you do they have any curfew like for noise and stuff in that area well they would only be permitted to this is not part of a venue right so they would only be permitted to have ambient music so music that you know would not be above a normal conversation there are no specific hours uh required for when music can be played or or has to be shut off um but there is no bar structure up here there's this is not part of a restaurant um and you know they would be subject to the city's uh noise ordinance thank you and I had um somebody El have a question I had a quick question because one of the drawings show one of the images from above um showed a a kind of um I I maybe it was sketched in a little a little structure is that what you kind of did you want to see it um is that what you kind of imagined well that is the dimension do that exist okay no no it doesn't exist now that's just drawn in to show the dimension okay got it all right so you you propos that it has a little can has a structure and then the shade structure stays out stays open over that that structure okay that's how you that's how you guys understood it as well okay how staff sorry not you guys but staff understood as well um so uh with that I think um thank you very much we uh I if there are no more questions then we will um ask if there are any disclosures no seeing none any public MERS um any members of the public please raise your hand on Zoom or come forward see none Mr chair okay then um are there any any comments uh that the board members would like to make about this on the mic I'm just surprised the set I would spend money to put up a shade structure with no real purpose good question okay anybody else any comment no any comment on this side yeah it's not really a comment it's it's a i Echo that you know um putting spending the money to put up a shade structure with no established purpose I know mean I can maybe give an answer to that yeah would you like to maybe pickle ball carts are coming next I think I know I know we Clos we we Clos the uh the the meeting but please if you can answer it seems to be on everybody's mind I think we many of you know we are a very busy resort with our restaurants and whatnot and there's no private space for residents so I think that's a privilege we want to give our residents to enjoy such a space on their own okay no private space for the residents I'm sorry I can't hear you very well there's no other private space on property for residents yeah so all the other spaces are public so that's really a designated area for our residents so this will be for residents only for residents which we include Hotel guests yes right well I guess I guess that's my question so there because I know there are some issues with the the the resident use here and the hotel use in this building from what I've learned um so the access is for both groups of people or maybe because we're are mixed use building we are transient building all of our hotel guests are considered residents as well they're just renting short term but everybody who has an residence in the building we would probably give the opportunity to use this for hotel guests as well because they're considered the same maybe not at the same time maybe we'll have hours for hotel guests if have hours for residents but it's mainly designated for residents how how do you get to this space can you just describe um how somebody would get to the space there is an elevator leading from the bar area from the main bar and it was always into we open designated as a kind of a member space or a resident space so we're not using it differently than it's supposed to be used it was always designated for that purpose but it was never shaded okay all right any other any other yeah right do you have any plans like for putting some planters up there with some trees or something to yeah of course we'll make it look pretty I'm sure we do some Landscaping there as well but nothing nothing intrusive nothing very large so all right um yeah I see the I see the elevator so are there any any other any other comments um or yes Lindy so I have a a question I note here um no alcohol sale at all so that's something that as far as the submission there's will be no alcohol sales in this space there's nothing planned yes correct okay I mean is there a profit that like it won't that it that it won't be like that won't be a future we we haven't planned to build the bar or anything of that nature so for now no maybe we'll would at one point invite our res Co or but it's not a not a restaurant venue so two quick things to follow up on on some of the board members questions if they were to propose a bar counter outside that would have to come back to the historic preservation board if they were to propose this as part of one of their alcoholic beverage establishments it would require planning Board review and approval so and maybe because it's a it's a rooftop um it would be a rooftop alcoholic beverage establishment de can you repeat that again I just I'm not sure that I understand the distinction so an outdoor bar counter the physical structure okay would require coming back to the board if in other words a temporary bar structure that would be for certain events and whatnot you're saying unless it's part of a special event permit that would be very temporarily it would require going through historic preservation Board review the if they didn't have the bar but they just wanted to connect the spaces with another bar and and bring alcoholic service up here as part of a establishment that would require planning board so planning board if they're going to sell alcohol up here planning board is going to be required because this is a rooftop that is within 200 feet of a residential unit so this if they're going to sell alcohol here requires a conditional use in front of the planning board a physical structure to serve as a bar would require coming back to the board in the similar manner that this canopy is before you so I guess my question is because you just said there the access to it it's an elevator from your Lobby Bar from your downstairs bar that's correct it's a hydraulic elevator going from the lobby to that floor and it also has a sta case Okay so if I'm a resident or a guest and I go to the bar I can get a drink and then go upstairs and sit under the Shaded area good question haven't thought of this to be honest but the elevator is key keyed so you need a key to get up so that's what I saying if I'm a resident or a guest so if I have access to the space otherwise yeah I mean if that's an issue we need to review that I didn't really think of that at all but might be something we need to Define so okay it um and that wouldn't change but that wouldn't change anything that that we're considering here because they wouldn't be selling it there it' just be people wondering around even if they were selling it it wouldn't do anything for us because they don't they're not asking for a fysical bar counter I just was trying to understand the purpose and the use behind Okay so we have a rooftop we have a rooftop awning on a busy intersection um and um does anybody have a motion to approve great we did we open to the public oh we did okay and there I think we did because we we went backwards we did I I do see a hand okay please yeah maybe we did absolutely Daniel Caldo I see your hand raised Daniel you remain under oath you have three minutes thank you um Daniel Sero with Miami Design preservation League we are in support of the application subject to the staff recommendations we've seen the canopies in a lot of other places and it seems like a reasonable request thank you okay thank you Daniel that's yeah thank you okay so we had closed yeah the problem was we had closed the board closed the comments and then we reopened them thank you for for indulging us and uh Ray do we still have you on deck for a um for making the motion to thank you a second I'll second thank you okay let me call the role Miss cararo yes Mr Erick no M Lovel yes Miss Weinstein bman yes Mr Meyer yes Mr Breslin yes Mr Stewart yes okay thank you thank you thank you very much okay Mr chair we're moving rather quickly today um we do have one final application on the agenda uh this morning it is HPB 24619 this is 761 Jefferson Avenue an application has been filed requesting a certificate of appropriateness for the partial demolition renovation and restoration of the existing building um the existing building is was is contri is classified is contributing it was constructed in 1936 and designed by Henry huser in the art deco style of architecture uh the building remains uh relatively intact from its original design with the exception of the window and doors uh which were replaced over time um unfortunately I think the bigger story here and I know this is true for uh the Flamingo Park neighborhood is the building has been in Decline for quite some time it has been quite a nuisance and um also has been somewhat of a drain on our Public Safety Services um we've had some some significant issues I know the Flamingo Park neighborhood association has been working with our Code Compliance staff um violations have been issued there have also been a building violations issued um and that includes an safe structures violation that was issued in 2022 um the property is currently under new ownership and I I think we've met with the the property owners Representatives on many occasions uh we were actually very optimistic after our our initial meetings that this building as well as the buildings to the South which are in the under the same ownership and in similar situation um that the propos Al was to retain and restore these buildings and bring them back to active residential use um so we think overall this is very positive news um the other two buildings that are not subject to this um staff has reviewed building permits for those uh the scope of work is able to be reviewed and improved administratively so we are trying to expedite that and get those buildings uh repaired as quickly as possible this current building the applicant is proposing some modifications to the North and South sides specifically the window opening configuration um while staff is supportive of some minor modifications to these window openings um we do have some recommendations that we do believe we'll be able to address at administrative level um primarily because the the new window sizes that are that are currently being proposed are somewhat alien to to the existing building so we are recommending that the um relationship of the new openings to the horizontal banding on the side um be retained uh staff would also recommend that the size of the windows uh be more consistent with the exist with the existing window opening sizes um that would include the larger um Windows would be the 6t wide windows and that the new bathroom Windows would be the approximately 1T 6 x 33 openings so they would be in a different configuration but at least the proportion of the openings would be consistent with the original architecture um and so that's our only comment but overall um I want to thank the property owner and their team for really trying to get this building all three of the buildings but in the particular this building uh back online and repaired and found an asset to the neighborhood again instead of a nuisance great thank you thank you very much is there any any questions for uh for Debbie before we before we start no okay no questions so welcome and please introduce yourself and you're welcome to present yeah good morning uh board and staff my name is Pedro via and I'm the attorney for the applicant uh with offices at 3050 biscane Boulevard and with me here today I have the AR Texs for the project which are Chris Mary Pascarella and Franchesca tago as well um so as as you heard uh the uh the applicant purchased this building uh back in April of 2022 um at an auction and the building had significant problems especially on the interior uh had received a Litany of violations and citations and we've you know tried the best we can to work through that uh with the neighborhood trying to work hand inand with them um this property uh was constructed in 1936 and is located in the uh Flamingo Park historic district it is a uh two-story multif family building has 12 units uh and it's in the rm1 zoning District once we got through a lot of the initial issues with the violations and because a lot of it was interior issues we had to actually relocate tenants and sort of go through that whole process um the team started to really work on designing uh a building that would Revitalize this building uh and maintain the architectural character of the surrounding area as they were doing that uh we also started to contact local leaders in the in the neighborhood to ensure that groups like The Flamingo Park neighborhood association uh the Meridian Corps community and the Miami Design preservation league would have an opportunity to comment uh on the plan as well as provide input and feedack back and I'd like to personally thank actually Mr Scott needlman as well as Mr Johan Moore and David Caldo for all sort of facilitating those Community meetings and providing input and spending time with us to really make sure that this design fits in with the neighborhood uh and we've gotten their support as well as that of their organizations um as Chris Mar Franchesco will explain uh in in Greater detail you know this is a renovation and restoration there is some exterior which is why why we're here but mostly it's trying to bring back the um you know the Splendor of that building and try to keep it looking as much as possible as it did historically and really bringing the floors new windows and new doors while maintaining all these accents and and historic details um and so with that I think I'll turn the presentation over to Chris Mary good morning historic preservation board and staff my name is chisari Pascarella and I'm representing PL Studio 2125 biscan Boulevard and um thank you this is uh a beautiful building on the corner and it has a very similar building on the other Corner this building was designed by Henry huser in 1936 uh when uh the owner purchased this uh building and it was in in a very difficult uh structural and uh situation so with the help of a structural engineer the owner's EMP but we decided to bring back this building and we submitted we receive a report from the uh the planning board and we follow their instructions so I know that right now the most important thing for you guys is the facade and the position of the windows so we address those comments and by doing so we were able to uh keep the sizes the correct sizes of those windows and align it accordingly they do follow the new layout but they are exactly as the original so the building is located in 761 Jefferson Avenue and it's a two-story building from 1936 we have pictures of the current and the proposed which is exactly the same we're just making it more beautiful we're preserving all the the our Deo motifs we are keeping the stripes we're keeping the The Motif that are on top of the facade so let me show you the front facade and the back facade remain exactly the same we're just going to repair the stco repair all those or ornamentation but it's pretty much the same even the window sizes are the same the this is our rendering of what we're proposing and these are the facades that are changing the north facade and the South facade and in red you could see the windows the new windows that we are proposing to have new windows and the issue that we had before was the sizes because they were like couple of inches bigger or wider so we addressed that and now it looks more cohesive yes okay and then this is the back facade the back facade has very limited stripes we are continuing uh preserving those stripes and you can see the difference between the old facade and the new facade now those changes happened because all the bathrooms were not compliant to current sizes the average size was like 3 and a half by six six and in there you had a shower a sink a toilet it was not really workable and what we did we added a larger bathroom and we added Central AC and a washer and dryer so because of those you know reconfigurations that we needed to move the windows accordingly and this is a closeup of the facade as you can see we're not changing it we're just improving on it and also one of the recommendations were if we could raise the the first floor a little bit however we don't have enough tolerance in the ceiling to do so because we're adding uh Central AC so therefore we wouldn't have enough clearance in certain areas of the apartment right and then if we let's say push it to the other two then we have issues with the scopers the roof side so that's why we're trying to keep it as it is this is the layout of the units so as you can see the bathrooms can be entered from both sides we have washer and dryer and we have a central AC super simple right and that's why the the windows changed and as of landcape I want to show you what we have because we have embellished with with trees and with shrubs um the landscape architect did a really good job and this are the trees and planting and shrop that we are proposing and that's pretty much all the presentation thank you very much okay thank you very much are there any questions for the applicant what is the total number of units we have 12 units why there only eight air conditioners on the Roof oh that that it's by mistake I guess I'm missing yeah there's only yeah there's only eight on the roof so double checking thank you sure Lindsay so um one of the renderings that you showed um I'm guessing it was the rendering of the original window plan right okay so I just wanted to make sure yeah yeah yeah cuz it had the more Square bathroom Windows Asos to rectangular yeah we received the Rapport and we just recently changed it you want to look at that do you want to look at that again just to see yeah I me go back to justone sees it yeah I think it was like maybe slide 15 right it's really hard to see but the you see the small window that is square now is rectangular that's that's the old one or not old one but it's it's the rendering of the previous plan right before they fixed the windows per staff recommend oh so that's not the that's not with the new windows correct can you show that with the new windows no I don't have you don't have that rendering can you go back to the drawing that does show the yes especially that facade because that's a street facade right so as you can see if we look at can go back to Elevation I think that would be probably help yeah like okay there so you see the elevation now in the elevation they can you walk us through what is the orangee and what is the okay so the the red is the new proposed openings some of them match and uh that and then all the other is what we are closing and patching and and fixing and preserving yeah so these are the windows in in in question because in my renderings they are a little square then as the we're following the recommendation to make it more as they were before as you can see here so we went back to the original size it just shifted a bit so just just because on the screen up there it's hard for me to see I just want to make sure so the top with the red is showing the the new the new openings laid over the existing openings corre correct okay and then the bottom is the elevation of The Proposal with the corrected openings okay I just want to make sure I'm following it thank you yeah so the bottom is the new is what the new that new facade will be correct the and the top is just the red overlaid with the existing exactly so the red should match the red on top should match the windows in the in the bottom elevational drawing right right everybody get that all right so yeah thank you because that's a that's a really uh critical thanks so any any other questions for for the applicant Elizabeth no I have a question I'm not sure if it's the applicant or Deb because on the site plan I believe some of the setbacks are non-conforming is that correct so do they have to apply for a variance a waiver how does that work because this is a contributing building um and they're not demolishing any significant portions of the building they are allowed to retain the existing non-conform me set backs think it's G yes that's one of the benefits of of having owning a contributing building with non-conformities yeah great um okay and uh thank you thank you very much for the uh presentation um now any board disclosures no no no no no yes I have another question I just noticed that the so they were asked to raise the ground floor and they can't and I understand the limitations of course being in old building so are there any requirements to um improve the resilience of a building like that um since we cannot Trace but at least to drive flood proofing it or something is there a requirement on the code that I'm not sure visit probably that would be a building requirement right there are requirements in the Florida Belling code we do not have them in our Land Development regulations but in the Florida building code they will be required to provide some dry flood proofing yes and though um the dry flood proofing would happen in any public interior so would it also happen in would be any portion that's below the required base flood plus free board yes got it all right so uh with that there's no more uh no disclosures and I think no more questions so any um public uh comments um Mr chair I see Johan Moore on Zoom good morning Johan you have three minutes yes thank morning all uh I'm speaking in this instance on behalf of Meridian Court Community which I co-founded uh we were founded in response to this three-building slum which on the testimony of one of its former residents was neglected by its previous owners for 30 years we are very grateful uh to Police Department to code and to this board uh as well as to the new owners uh the attorney the architect uh and the neighborhood association for all of their work in addressing what was the single largest concentration of neglected buildings and vacant buildings for the last several years we are fully supportive of this project we enthusiastically welcome our new neighbors we are especially supportive of the Design's focus on the green aspects of the property uh we believe that restoring these three contributing buildings as de facto mixed income housing uh predominantly the owner's own Workforce housing uh will be an excellent addition to the neighborhood thank you very much okay thank you Johan I see Dan Caldo hi Daniel you have three minutes thank you historic preservation board members we Daniel Sero with Miami Design preservation League we uh met with the applicants and we want to thank them similar to the prior speaker these three properties have really been on the decline for many years and it's awesome to see that not just this one that's being reviewed publicly but there's two other buildings that are already in the process administratively of being approved uh when we think about resilience some people think about resilience for the year 2080 I like to think about having housing today and so the ability that we're going to put these dozens of units back online for people who live here right now is extremely resilient in in our opinion and we're very thankful to the ownership um the change in the window openings is um is somewhat of a challenge but if this was a mid block building it would not really have uh the visibility to to that side that it has because it's on the side street but we think they did a good job balancing that all out with the support of the staff one comment we did share with them is we would hope that they would use the window Ms that are a little more three-dimensional rather than some of the newer ones we see that are very flat and glued on and don't look as realistic so we're hoping that that will be part of the approval once again we're so happy to see more resilient housing coming back to the neighborhood thank you okay thank you Daniel I see no other members of the public wishing to comment okay um thank you I don't if you have any comments to base upon the public comments you're welcome to do so now but otherwise I think we'll just open up to um to board yes Bo um the one only thing that I wasn't happy about is the painting of of the building when you have that big wide blue stripe right down through the middle of the building I'd like to see two colors of blue or go back to the background color the building color in the middle so you don't have that big huge wide blue stripe down the middle I think you're you're um not giving enough uh representation of the difference in the architecture there would you like to go uh thank you so much for your presentation and um thank you to the neighbors for providing um that background I think it's critical for this project um obviously following historic preservation to the letter of the law all the window openings should be and you know we do have documentation of what it should be I think um given the circumstances and I actually think your design is better than the historic um with the window openings to be honest and I don't know if Henry ho Houser would even have a problem um with with these adaptations but um I would personally I don't really have an issue with it I would like to kind of hear what the other board members think but I think you did a fantastic job and and again thank you to the owners for really taking on it's a it's going to be a very um a massive Endeavor to undertake over the next few years so I'm very supportive thank you thank you thank you thank you for your presentation I think it's a wonderful project anytime you enhance the neighborhood I'm all for it and I think you're um complying with most of uh the requirements if not all so I applaud you and I support you thank you thank you thanks for the presentation I actually was curious uh further to um I guess well we've closed this part the haven't we uh this is supposed to be board coming to each other um yeah I mean guess unless you really had a question well I just echoing off of Ray's comment earlier I I'm seeing actually like a gray treatment on the on the facade one place they show one place yeah that's why I'm that's why I'm a little confused the real color is is blue yeah so what what page should we look at like for the most accurate for the blue one this one 701 yeah oh okay okay yeah that's that's yes I did not see that page I was yeah MH okay all right got it thank you welcome just to have this okay uh well you can come back with more questions if you have them Elizabeth you know I just want to ask a question is the blue the original color on the building or that something that you are proposing the blue is something that we are trying to propose because the blue is the color of the owner like she has several companies and that's the color that she uses throughout so it's like her branding right and it was used before so if we you look at all the other pictures of this building has been yellow orange green and blue so we just sett up for the blue I see so I personally don't have a problem with the blue and I like the fact that the blue the call the paint blue is different of the blue of the on so it creates a nice con Contra contast contrast in there and I know I do appreciate the work you're putting and bringing this building back to life and congratulations thank you I know I know Johan spoke earlier and I know I know the history of them trying to resolve some of the issues with these three buildings so I really appreciate the effort that this team has put into bringing these buildings back to their former glory I really do um I also really appreciate um and you know I'll defer to Laura as the architect uh you know about whether that she likes the new windows better but I do really appreciate the efforts made to stay in keeping with similar to what was there before even if you had to shift or a little bit um rather than kind of a wholesale change um I I don't have any issue with the color scheme or the or the block of blue um and this isn't really anything I was curious this is just a curiosity question um whether the plan is to stucco and then paint or if it's going to be the colored stucco um Stow I think is one of the brands I don't know if there's a plan for that materiality um how they're intending to do that um we were just thinking about paint but now that's a good option the only reason I bring it up is because I know my building when we redid it so we have stucco and then we have this green stucko oh um and it's you know there's probably pros and cons to it and I won't waigh until what they are but I just was curious sure we'll study that thank you all right um and I'll just ch uh chime in and say how um impressed I am with the with the way the project is um coming together we rarely see projects that don't don't add significantly to F that kind of try to uh kind of reuse the existing fabric as it is um to better the um to better the life in our in our historic districts and so I really I commend you and you and your and your uh client and um I think that I I agree well you know I can see that the historic facade has a kind of Rhythm to it that's a little um a syncopation as you as you say in music where there's large and small and large and small and um it's uh in in a kind of in a rhythmic pattern but I understand thankfully we have on that on that um Street facade we have the the bands to follow and the way in which this is following the bands and increasing um increasing light in the apartments I I think is is a real benefit to the people who live there and I I I don't have any any problem with that particularly since we have this structural condition that we know was part part of the guidelines almost like a music like it's isn't it um so we uh I think we're following something that's very important and I I I noticed that you kept some of the openings where there where the in-wall air conditioning units in there I'm sure they'll be gone um in the final uh rendering to and and that everyone will have access to an air conditioning unit and um and I'm really interested in how you and how you know you either work with staff or or or not on the on the wet flood proofing considering that this will potentially become wet because it's very low-lying and how and how it dries uh dries easily so this it's a it's a really great experiment and I'm uh very happy that you guys are are involved in this and appreciative that we have we will have this example uh to show others as to what what what it can be like so um um with that I uh I'm accepting any motions I'll move that we approve with uh staff recommendations okay second second okay okay let me call the role Mr Meyer yes M yes Mr Breslin yes M Weinstein Burman yes Mr erck yes Miss Lovel yes Mr Stewart yes great congratulations thank you thank you thank you and I want to make one comment we went through a whole day without one variation variance yeah one variance correu steuart Reed would be [Laughter] very um Mr chair that's all we have on the agenda uh today I was going to say this afternoon but I don't think it's noon yet um so unless there's anything else we can adjourn the meeting thank you e e e e