TUESDAY APRIL SECOND 2024, IT IS 01:00PM WE IN ROUTE TO 44. AND I CALL THE CITY COMMISSION JOINT MEETING TO ORDER THIS IS A HYBRID WILL BE A HYBRID MEETING. THIS MEETING HAS BEEN PROPERLY NOTICED IT WILL BE CONDUCTED AS A HYBRID MEETING REQUIRE THE USE OF COMMUNICATIONS MEDIA TECHNOLOGY. A PHYSICAL QUORUM OF VOTING MEMBERS IS PRESENT AND CITY COMMISSION CHAMBERS, A HYBRID MEETING ALLOWS VOTING MEMBERS TO ATTEND AND PARTICIPATE WITHOUT BEING PHYSICALLY PRESENT IN THE ROOM WHERE THIS FORM IS COMPETE AND WORK OUT I THINK WE'RE HAVING SOME DIFFICULTY SO COMMISSIONER EMRICH COMES ON HE WILL READ THIS COMMISSIONERS PRESENT OUR MYSELF MAYOR WHY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL COMMISSIONER STOKES AND I DON'T SEE COMMISSIONER LANGDON IS THAT CORRECT. OKAY. I NEED TO REQUEST A MOTION TO APPROVE THE USE OF CMT FOR A HYBRID MEETING. LAUGHTER. SO WE'RE GONNA WAIT WE WAIT TO DO THAT, IT DOES THAT OK THANK ALSO PRESENT OUR CITY MANAGER FLETCHER. THAT THAT THE WE HAVE ATTORNEY. THE OKAY I SEE ALL RIGHT THANK YOU CITY CLERK, FAUST POLICE CHIEF HE'S ALL RIGHT AND FIRE CHIEF. OKAY, THANK YOU I WANT TO >> DO YOU WANT THAT'S WHY COULD LEAD THE FLAT. >> I AND THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR THANK YOU ALL. VERY WELL HAHA. >> ALL RIGHT SO I WILL WEST A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA. THAT WAS THAT MOTION WAS MADE BY VICE MAYOR STOKES'S SECONDED BY. COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL WE WILL HAVE A VOICE. >> A VOTE ON THAT. >> COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL, YES. AND MAYOR ALEX WHITE YES. THAT FOR US. I TALKING OKAY. SO JUST WAY TOO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT. ALL RIGHT SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO ITEM 3 GENERAL BUSINESS 24 DASH 0, 5, FOR CITY MANAGER TAKE IT AWAY. >> THANK YOU, MADAM OF ITEM OF DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE USE OF SURTAX FUNDS TO IT. FOR FOR THE FUNDING OF THE POLICE. DEPARTMENT HEADQUARTERS SO TO INTRODUCE THE PROJECT AS OF NOW THE CITY OF NORTH PORT STAFF POLICE DEPARTMENT HAPP OPPOSED SEVERAL DIFFERENT OPTIONS TO FUND A 122 MILLION POLICE HEADQUARTERS. WE'VE ALSO IDENTIFIED CLOSE ROUGHLY 500 MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE PROJECT 100 MILLION DOLLARS IS COMPRISED OF 15 MILLION DOLLARS SURTAX ALSO 35. DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT WOULD PAID THROUGH PROPERTY TAX MILLAGE INCREASE AS WELL AS SEARCHING FOR GRANTS AS WELL AS SALE OF CITY PROPERTY AND ALSO THE TRANSFER CELL OF THE CURRENT POLICE STATION 2 CITY STAFF WILL ALSO BE SPACE. BASED ON THAT MODEL WE WE CAME CLOSE TO A 100 MILLION DOLLARS THERE STILL NOT A 122 MILLION DOLLARS A FIGHT LESS ARE PROPOSING TO INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF INCREASE OF BORROWING TO THE CITIZENS. WE ARE CURRENTLY BRINGING BACK INFORMATION TO THE. COMMISSION BASED ON THE CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD YESTERDAY TO IDENTIFY THAT FUNDING SOURCE YESTERDAY WE ALSO WITH THROUGH OUR SURTAX LIST IN AN EFFORT TO SEE IF THERE WERE ANY OTHER PROJECTS THAT COULD BE POSSIBLY USED FOR THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS NEED SOME OF THEM THAT WERE DISCUSSED WERE THE CANAL IN CREEK MASTERPLAN THE SECOND 3RD SPLASH UP AND SELL OUTDOOR AMPHITHEATER TO THIS COURT PICKLEBALL COMPLEX ADDITIONAL OUTDOOR BASKETBALL COURTS. RIVER ROAD, REGIONAL PARK SPORTS COMPLEX OBSERVATION DECK AT THE MYAKKA HACHI CREEK PARK OR MINERAL SPRINGS MASTER PLAN THAT HAITIAN CITY HALL IN DEVELOPMENTAL CENTER. LAYING THE CONNECTION WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING MOBILE COMMAND REPLACEMENT AND THE TROPICAIRE BOULEVARD PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE WAY SHARED USE PATH. THERE WERE NO DECISIONS OF FINALITY MADE BY THE COMMISSION ON YESTERDAY THESE PROJECTS WERE ALL IDENTIFIED EITHER BY COMMISSION OR STAFF AS ONES THAT COULD POSSIBLY BE USED FUNDING FOR THE HEADQUARTERS KNOWING THAT IF THEY WERE USED THEY WOULD NOT BE ELIMINATED, BUT THEY WOULD P DEFERRED TO A LATER POINT IN TIME. ONE OF THE CONVERSATION TODAY BORN OUT AS WE HAVE WORKED WITH THE CHAMBER HER FOR THE CHAMBER ON DIFFERENT ITEMS. THIS ONE JUST AS IMPORTANT LAST WHAT I CAN RECALL IS THE FINAL ITEM WE'VE WORKED WITH THE CHAMBER OR HER FROM FROM THE CHAMBER REGARDING THE ULDC CHANGES AND WE KNOW AND RECOGNIZE THAT THE CHAMBER IS A STALL PARTNER OF THE CITY. I DON'T THINK WE COULD. AS SUCCESSFUL WITH OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY WITHOUT THE CHAMBER OUT THINK WE WANT TO TRY TO DO THAT WITHOUT THE CHAMBER. SO WHEN WE HEARD EARLY ON THERE WAS CONCERN CHAMBER MEMBERS REGARDING THE PROJECT ITSELF AND HOW WE WERE FINDING IT I THOUGHT IT WAS WISE FOR THE BOARD OF THE CHAMBER TO MEET WITH THE BOARD OF THE COMMISSION. SO THAT ONE COULD EACH OTHER AS WE TRY TO SOLVE FOR A PROBLEM THAT IS UPON US. THE PROBLEM ITSELF IS NOT NEW PROBLEM IT HAS BEEN. WAYS BY CHEAP HARRISON FOR THE YEARS HE'S BEEN HERE. IF YOU ALL EVOLVED FROM BEING 20 MILLION DOLLARS OF. EXPANSION OR RENOVATION OF ITS CURRENT LOCATION 40 MILLION DOLLARS OF EXPANSION OR RENOVATION OF HIS CURRENT LOCATION TO THE CONSULTANT'S REPORT THAT WE GOT LAST SUMMER WHICH SAID A 100 MILLION DOLLAR FACILITY WAS AND THAT AHLERS THAT WAS NEEDED AS WE DISCUSSED WAS PUT INTO OUR BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR HASN'T FUNDED PROJECT. THAT PROJECT SIZE OF A 100 MILLION DOLLARS IS VERY ATYPICAL FOR YOU TO BE ON A LIST OF SURTAX FROM THE VERY BEGINNING. HERE'S OVER THE 15 YEARS THAT YOU SCHEDULED TO COLLECT IT IS JUST NORTH OF 315 MILLION DOLLARS. THIS PROJECT WITH YOU KNOW NEARLY A 3RD OF A 15 YEAR OF COMMITMENT. THERE ARE ALSO OPTIONS OF CONSIDERATION OF WHETHER YOU CAN CAPITAL LEASE IT AND IT THROUGH SURTAX. ONE OF THOSE PATHWAYS YOU IT'S GOING TO COST ANYWHERE FROM 62 MILLION DOLLARS DEPENDING ON THE MODEL IN THE AMOUNT OF BORROWING THAT IS INCURRED THAT WOULD STILL BE A SHOES SO THE SURTAX GET THAT ROUTE WERE CHOSEN. SO HAVING SAID ALL THAT WE'RE HERE TODAY TO HEAR FROM EVERYONE TO MAKE SURE THAT VOICES ARE CONSIDERED AS A COMMISSION AND BEFORE THE COMMISSION MAKES A FINAL DECISION ON HOW WHAT AND HOW MUCH TO USE OF SIRTEX OKAY. >> AND BEFORE WE GO FURTHER COMMISSIONER LANGDON HAS JOINED TONIGHT THANK YOU FINDING WAY THAT'S FINE. OKAY THANK YOU FOR THAT SUMMERY CITY MANAGER AND THAT BRINGS US TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY SO NOTE THAT YOU WANT TO STARTED OFF. YES, CHAIR PRESIDENT IF SHE WAS JUST. >> SO PHILLIPS YOU CAN THIS KEEP MOVING ON. THIS ALL CAME ABOUT ONE OF OUR BOARD MEETINGS AND WE APPRECIATE HAVING A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE CITY AT ABORTIONS TO GIVE US INPUT OF WHAT'S GOING ON THE CITY AND HERE ARE AND PUT BACK TO THE CITY. THAT'S I BELIEVE WHEN WE FIRST LEARNED FUNDS FROM SURTAX FOR WAS A POTENTIAL OPTION TO USE TO FUND THE POLICE EVERYBODY ON THE BOARD WILL MAKE A STATEMENT STATING THEY SUPPORT THE POLICE I THINK IT'S OBVIOUS TO ALL SHOP WITH A COP EVERYTHING WE DO WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT LEVEL. BUT WE ALSO UNDERSTOOD. I GET CREDIT ROUNDS. 2013. PRICE BOULEVARD. HAS BEEN A THORN IN NORTH PORT SIDE FOR QUITE A WHILE AND IF YOU REMEMBER WE'VE BEEN JUST THAT ISSUE EVER SINCE THROUGH MULTIPLE PEOPLE, MULTIPLE STAFF, MULTIPLE COMMISSIONERS LEADERS OF THE CITY TRYING TO RESOLVE THIS ISSUE. ♪ CONCERNED ALWAYS WE'RE HAPPY THAT THE PHASE ONE WAS THAT TAKE CARE OF US SUMPTER ALL THE WAY TO PASS TOLEDO TO BUY THE SCHOOLS. WE WERE JUST CONCERNED ABOUT LIMITED ARE MOVING. POSTPONING OR DELAYING BUT EVER PHASE 2 OF 3. PRICE BOULEVARD OF BECAUSE WE JUST FELT THAT THIS WAS A ISSUE. AND I THINK IT WAS QUITE OBVIOUS HOW MUCH OF ISSUE WAS WITH HURRICANE IAN CAME IN DO WHAT IT DID. TO THAT ROAD 41 BECAME A PARKING LOT. A WALL OF INTERSTATE SO OF THE BOARD REALLY BECAUSE WE DO SHARE WILL HELP TO CONFER WITH JUST 5 FOR SURE WORST. WE'RE SUPPORTING KNOWING THAT THE POLICE FROM THE NEW HEADQUARTERS. THERE'S NO QUESTION OF THAT. THERE'S ALSO NO QUESTION THAT SEE ALL THESE OPEN. OUR DEPARTMENT NEWS THEIR CONCERN IS PROJECTS WERE. PRESENTED TO SARASOTA COUNTY. FOR A SURTAX FOR APPROVED. ROGERS WERE THOSE PROJECTS WILL THEM 42. VOTERS. TO VOTE FOR A SURTAX FOR. WE UNDERSTAND. THAT IS LEGAL TO MOVE DOLLARS. FOR CERTAIN TAX MONEY. WE UNDERSTAND IT'S BEEN MULTIPLE TIMES AROUND. ON MOBILE BAY. STILL IT'S USUALLY TOWARD MORNING NEAR THE END OF FUNDING CYCLES. WHEN OTHER MAY BECOME AVAILABLE OR OTHER PROJECTS COMPLETED OUR FUNDING BECAME AVAILABLE. NOT BEFORE THE STARTS TO MOVE DOLLARS. SO WE WERE JUST WONDERING ASKING CITY BEFORE WE MADE OFFICIAL STANCE BECAUSE YOU'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR THE CHAMBER TO MAKE A STANCE. HOW IS THIS GOING TO FUND IT BE FINANCED. SO THAT WE CAN LOOK AT THE CENTER AND WHETHER WE SUPPORT OUR RECOMMEND OTHER ALTERNATIVE SO. SHARON DID I COVERED PRETTY WELL YOU WANT TO IN AND AGREE IT WAS NEVER THE PROJECT THAT WAS TO ISSUE IS THAT IT WAS KIND OF SURPRISED TO LEARN THAT. >> IT WAS A SURPRISE TO US TO LEARN THAT IT WAS GOING COME FROM SURTAX. I APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE LEASE TO PURCHASE. AND WE WERE I WOULD I FIRST WAS WONDERING YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING TODAY AND THIS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMISSIONER STOKES ABOUT GENERAL DEVELOPMENT HAMSTRING THE CITY IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO QUALIFY FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING FROM. SECURING ADDITIONAL FUNDING AND DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT SO IF YOU COULD ELABORATE ON THAT THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO YOU KNOW OUR CITY ISSUE UNLIKE. ALL MUNICIPALITIES IN THE STATE AND THE COUNTY. EACH OF THEM HAVE THE ABILITY TO BORROW MONEY. WITHOUT ASKING FOR THE CITIZENS PERMISSION. GENERAL OBLIGATION >> ALWAYS REQUIRE REFERENDUMS BUT REVENUE BONDS, WHICH IS HOW MOST MUNICIPALITIES AND COUNTIES THEIR CAPITAL PROJECTS. THEY SIMPLY. OFFICE STAFF PUBLISHED BORROWING LEVELS ALL THE COUNTY FOR INSTANCE CAN BALL 28 MILLION DOLLARS PER PROJECT AND IT'S JUST THAT BY THE CPR I BELIEVE IT IS ANNUAL BASIS. SO THEY HAVE THE CAPABILITY FOR WHETHER IT BE. UTILITY PROJECTS ROAD INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS OR POLICE FIRE BUILDING STAY CAN UTILIZE THOSE THAT FUNDING FOR US. WE HAVE TO OUT FOR A REFERENDUM ON THE WAR PRESENCE SET WE HAVE TO ASK CITIZENS TO BORROW ANY MONEY AT ALL WHICH SEVERELY HAMSTRINGS THIS SO WE'RE ABLE TO SIMPLY GO AND ENCOURAGED THAT I MEAN WE CAN FINANCIALLY AFFORD IT TO GO OUT ALL DO OFFERING WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO TOUCH SOME OF THESE OTHER RESOURCES WE CAN AND SO MUCH OF FORCE OR TAXES LOADED. WITH PROJECTS THAT COULD BE FUNDED OTHER WAYS. AND SO YOU'VE GOT A WHOLE LIST WANTS AND NEEDS. COMPETING FOR THOSE ARE TAX DOLLARS. SO YOU KNOW IN A PERFECT WORLD, THE SYSTEM'S WHAT'S HA OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS TO LIVE OFF THE ABILITY TO CALL FOR EMERGENCY PURPOSES FOR. SAFETY RELATED TYPE BUT WE CAN'T. THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO LIVE WITH AN WORKING THAT BRINGS TO THE PROBLEMS WE HAVE WE HAVE NEEDS A GROWING CITY IN A VARIETY OF AREAS, NOT JUST A POLICE HEADQUARTERS BUT ALL THROUGHOUT OUR CITY. UTILITY AREAS FOR STRUCTURES. YOU NEED MONEY TO DO WE'RE GOING WE HAVE REVENUE SOURCES. HOW DO YOU GO BALL SO I HOPE THAT YOU KNOW THE DILEMMA AND AND THAT'S JUST ONE PIECE OF MY WE LOOK AT YOU KNOW HOW DO WE FUND THE FACILITY THAT. YOU KNOW MAKING VERY WELL SHOULD HAVE BEEN ALSO TEXAS TO BEGIN WITH BUT IT AND SO WHAT THAT IT WASN'T THE REALITY IS IT IS A SIGNIFICANT NEED SAFETY IS OUR HIGHEST PRIORITY IN THE CITY IT'S A PILLAR THAT. >> HAS TO TAKE PRIORITY OVER OTHER PRIORITIES. THERE'S ONLY 2 BUCKETS. SHE >> GENERAL FUND PROPERTY WHY ARE THERE ONLY 2 AND I DON'T KNOW I'M ASKING QUESTION WHY ARE THERE NOT GRANTS THAT YOU CAN GET FEDERALLY STATE EASILY WE COULD PROCURE I THAT ABSOLUTELY SOMETHING WE WILL WORK THERE MORE THAN 2 BUCKETS. BUT HOME 20. >> MILLION IT'S NOT THAT GET MONEY COMPETING WITH EVERYBODY ELSE. IT'S SLOW PROCESS. AND IT NOT ENOUGH MONEY TO PAY FOR THE SALE OF EXCESS ASSETS. THERE ARE 1015 20 MILLION MAYBE. PROBABLY A WHOLE LOT MORE IMPACT SHE'S THE GENERAL FUND AS A MINIMAL AMOUNT THINGS WE WEREN'T EVEN CHARGING. ♪ THE MAXIMUM WE COULD ON THE IMPACTS SO I MAKE DOUBLE THEN ♪ YOU'VE GOT. GENERAL PROPERTY TAXES AND YOU'VE GOT THAT REALLY CASE. I MEAN THERE MAY BE A COUPLE OTHER LITTLE AREA SLOW SOME MONEY OUT OF GET TOO DEEP WELLS A PROPERTY TAX AND AND SURTAX AND IF YOU LOOK AT JUST 35 IN THE ORIGINAL CONCEPTION OF. FUNDING 85 MILLION AT THIS. MAKING UP THE REST THROUGH GRANTS AND SALE OF ASSETS AND OTHER THINGS. 5035 35 MILLION OFF PROPERTY TAX. THAT EQUATES TO ALMOST AN 8% INCREASE IN THE MILITARY. I MEAN FOR THE AVERAGE CITIZEN THAT SO-CALLED NOW HE COULD REDUCE IT TO THE RIDICULOUS WHAT IS IT ON A DAILY BASIS AND IT SOUNDS LIKE A PRETTY LOW NUMBER. BUT THE REALITY IS. IT'S A BIG INCREASE. ON THE OTHER SIDE EQUATION YOU'VE GOT A WHOLE HOST WHAT I WOULD CALL DON'T WANT TO THE PRIORITIES FOR EACH AND EVERY DEPARTMENT HAS PUT FORTH THOSE PROJECTS AND THEY'RE IMPORTANT TO ENDING TO EACH OF THE PILLARS QUALITY OF LIFE FOR INSTANCE, AND YOU CAN'T SAY THAT ONE IMPORTANT YOU CAN'T SAY THEY SHOULD JUST BE HIM UNFUNDED ARTISTS QUARTER SLOWING IN THE GARBAGE BECAUSE THEY CAN'T THEIR PART OF OUR CITIES. WE EVEN WANT OVERTIME. SOMEWHERE THEY HAVE TO WE PRIORITIZED IN ORDER TO MAKE ROOM FOR THIS POLICE FACILITY. DARREN GETS US TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY WHICH IS WITHOUT SURTAX CAN'T BUILD THIS BUILDING. >> SO MANY ARE TAKING ARE YOU PLANNING TO TAKE FROM SURTAX. THE CURRENT PROPOSAL IS 50 MILLION DOLLARS A MONTH. TALK ABOUT WE HAVE A GREAT TOOL. CLEAR IF THEY CAN'T GET A GRANT FOR NEW PUBLIC. POLICE HEADQUARTERS. IF THERE WAS EVER AN ITEM TO KEEP IT GOING FOR SHOULD BE THAT PROJECT WE KNOW THAT OUR FRIENDS IN SUPPORTERS TO APPROPRIATIONS BUT LIKE WE SAID IT'S UNDETERMINED THE MOUTH. SO WHAT WE PROPOSE WAS INDEED THE SCENARIO I BELIEVE CITY STAFF HAS AN OBLIGATION TO TRY IN THIS EQUATION IF YOU PICKED A 100 MILLION DOLLAR MODEL WE WOULD IDENTIFY FUNDING OF 85 AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO CLOSE THAT IF YOU PICK EDGE AND MODEL THEN WE'RE GOING IDENTIFY FUNDING OF A 100 FOR THE CONSTRUCTION COST AND THEY FEEL THAT WE NEED TO TO YOU KNOW THE WAYS BUT I FEEL LIKE THERE HAS TO BE SOME SORT OF EVERYONE TIPPING INTO THE SOLUTION NOT TAKING IT WILL PUTTING IT ALL ON ONE PARTICULAR YOU KNOW I THINK SHOULD SO ONE POINT IN COUPLE COMMISSION MEETINGS OVER TALKING THERE WAS TOPIC OF. >> GIVING THE CITY MANAGER THE ABILITY TO. BORROW ON BEHALF OF THE CITY FOR THE 20 MILLION DOLLARS. NO IT WOULDN'T FOR US TO BORROW THE QUESTION WE PUT WAS A TWO-FOLD QUESTION THAT'S WHAT'S CREATED IN ORDER TO ALLOW FOR THE CITY ITSELF BUT THAT THE CITY MANAGER OPEN TO BORROW THE COMMISSION OF COURSE HAS TO CONTROL THE BALL RING THAT WE WOULD DO THAT GOES TO THE VOTERS THE QUESTION WAS D WHICH YOU APPROVE US TO BORROW 35 MILLION DOLLARS THAT WILL BE PAID TO THE MILLAGE RATE INCREASE AND 15 MILLION DOLLARS IN SURTAX TOWARDS THAT BOTH OF FOR THE SAME PURPOSE OF A NEW POLICE STATION GOT BUT THAT WAS WHAT WE PROPOSED BASEBALL CONVERSATION WITH THE COMMISSION AT THE LAST MEETING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THAT WHICH WAS MARCH 26. I BELIEVE THERE WAS EVEN QUESTION ABOUT DIRECTION BECAUSE. THERE WAS NO COMMITMENT AT THAT TIME THAT ONE 35 MILLION WHAT THE RIGHT NUMBER WE WANT TO BORROW OR THE 50 MILLION SURTAX WASN'T COMPLETE EITHER PENDING NOW WITH THE CONVERSATION IT WAS YESTERDAY BUT THIS CONVERSATION TODAY AS SHOWING JUST IT MAY BE FOR CLARITY FOR THOSE MAY NOT REALLY. >> IF ULTIMATELY WE IS LET'S PUT THAT NUMBER 85 MILLION DOLLARS IN TOTAL. THE PROJECT COST YOU FIGURE. YOU KNOW CAN'T JUST SIMPLY. PAY FOR THIS. OUT OF SIRTE ACTION OUT MILLAGE RATE OVER A PERIOD OF YEARS WE'VE GOT THE BALL AT ALL WE'VE GOT TO HAVE IT BECAUSE IT'S 1218 MONTH PROJECT TO BUILD THAT BUILDING AND GET IT COMPLETED AND THEN THAT ON OR DEBT INSTRUMENT. WHAT THE PAID PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST OVER A PERIOD 30 PLUS YEARS. I WOULD'VE VARIOUS FUNDING BUCKETS AND THAT'S SORT OF THE APPROACH THAT TAKE. >> WELL GUESS A FALLEN QUESTION THAT WOULD BE. WITH THE SALE OF SOME OF THE ASSETS ALLIANCE. ARE ANY OF THOSE CLAIMS. YOUR MARK FOR FUTURE PROJECTS OR THEY JUST STUFF THE CITY SPECIFICALLY. >> SO WHAT WE'RE DOING WE DID WE MENTION THIS ROW FRIDAY LAST WEEK. THE PROJECTS THAT WE PERMIT PRESENTED TO THE COMMISSION WERE JUST POINTS THAT WERE LIKE IN ORDER AVAILABILITY AND COST AND SOME OF THEM DID HAVE A INTENDED CAUSE QUESTIONS OR NEEDS THAT WERE NOT DISCUSSED THAT THERE IS A A AEADING WHICH IS WHY I SAID THE CABBIE OUT STAFF TO GO BACK AND DO SO DUE DILIGENCE TO MAKE SURE THE ONE THAT EVEN BE OFFERED. BALLOT. SO WE'VE DONE THAT FOR THE MOST PART WE HAVE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION BUT WE NEED TO PUT IT IN A WAY WHERE THEY COULD SORT OF SEE THE PROJECT BUT THE VISUAL. GET THE ORIGINAL THOUGHT WHY DID WE GET THIS POP IN THE FIRST PLACE AND THEN WHAT IF ANYTHING STAFF HAD PLANNED WITH THIS SO THAT THEY CAN SAY OKAY KIND LIKE THEY DID YESTERDAY WELL DO WE REALLY WE STILL WANT TO DO THAT AND IT WE HAVE IT WAS GOING TO DO THAT THERE. SO THAT'S GOING TO COME BACK TO THEM SOME POINT TIME, BUT IT'S NOT THERE'S NOT AS YOU CAN IMAGINE A LOT OF THE THAT FIT IN THE CATEGORY OF SIGNIFICANT. SALES. BUT AGAIN EVERYTHING'S ON THE TABLE. EVERYTHING ON THE TABLE. UNDERSTAND >> JUST TO TO SHARE WITH EVERYBODY WE CANNOT GO OUT TO BID FOR CONSTRUCTION. >> UNTIL WE HAVE ALL OF THE MONEY AVAILABLE AND FULLY FUND IT. SO IT'S NOT LIKE HEY WE WANT TO BUILD THIS NEW BUILDING AND WILL WORRY ABOUT FUNDING AS THE TIME COMES WE HAVE TO HAVE ALL THAT MONEY UPFRONT READY AND AVAILABLE BEFORE WE CAN GO OUT ON THE STREETS AND GET A POSSIBLE BIT. SO THAT IS A HUGE PLAYER IN THIS WHOLE CONVERSATION AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY WAS >> THAT'S A GOOD POINT THAT AND ALSO WANT TO PUT IN PERSPECTIVE ORIGINALLY ABOUT THE GRANTS BECAUSE I KNOW I'VE HEARD THAT A LOT LIKE GRANT MONEY IS JUST GROWING ON TREES SOMEHOW. BUT THE SRQ FUNDS THAT RATE WAS 201 MILLION CORRECT AND THAT WAS FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTY THAT THAT MONEY WAS MADE AVAILABLE SO WE'RE TALKING BUILDING THAT'S A 100 MILLION THE REALITY OF GETTING A GRANT EVEN COME CLOSE TO THAT. IT'S NOT VERY REALISTIC MAYBE FOR HIM FURNITURE OR SOMETHING BUT FOR THE ACTUAL BUILDING COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL WE HAVE TO HAVE ALL THOSE BUCKETS LINED UP AND READY TO GO TO PAY FOR THIS BEFORE WE CAN EVEN. START LOOKING FOR SOME WANT TO BUILD IT. EXPECT THAT USEFUL LIFE BUILDING. WHAT IS THAT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE A. >> END DATE FOR THE USEFUL LIFE OF IT IT WAS A BUILDING IN THE OCCUPIED WITH THE OCCUPY 2. DOZENS DOZENS CONTINUALLY FOR MORE ON DATE. SO SO I'M WONDERING. YOU KNOW IT'S 15 YEARS. >> 15 YEARS IS THAT WE FUNCTION LIKE IT WOULD BE TODAY OR IT'S GOING TO BE WELL WE NEED REALLY MORE BECAUSE THIS ISN'T WORKING ANYMORE. >> SO THE 2 MODELS THAT WE DISCUSSED 100 MEAN ALL THE MODEL DESIGNED TO BUILD UNTIL THE 25TH. IS THE ONE 22 MILLION ON MODELS GO ABOUT WITH THE CAPACITY TO TAKE UP TO 2065. SO YOUR QUESTION THE ANSWER HOW LONG DO WE THINK THOSE BUILDINGS WILL BE USEFUL TO OUT GROW. WOULD BE THOSE DATES BUT AT THOSE DATES I'M NOT SAYING WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT WE'RE GOING CLOSE THAT DOWN SOMETHING DIFFERENT IT WILL JUST THE STATION THAT THEY'RE NOW STATEMENT OVERGROWTH NEXT STATION FOR QUITE SOME TIME. SO TO SAY THAT THE DAY THAT IT BECOMES FULL IS THE DAY THAT DIFFERENT DOESN'T QUITE GO TO WORK BECAUSE WE'VE MADE THIS WITHOUT SORT OF DOING ANYTHING DIFFERENT AND NOW AS THAT BUILDING THESE WERE SPACED THEY ARE PROCURING MODULAR YEARS THAT'S GOING TO GO OUT IN THE BACK OF THEM AND THAT WAS SCHEDULED TO BE DONE THIS YEAR. AND IS IT WILL BE DONE THIS YEAR IF NOTHING CHANGES. ALL RIGHT. >> OKAY, YEAH, JUST A COUPLE THINGS I MIGHT ADD ALSO ST LIKE THE COMMISSION'S GET A LOLOT ASSISTANCE AGAIN A LOT OF RESPONSE HAVE BEEN GETETTING A LOT OF CALLS E-MAILS AND OPLE PERSON ASKING ABOUT THE SITUATION. COUPLE THINGS TH AND VICE MAYOR, I KNOW YOU STAYAY THAT WE'V'VE HEARD AND I KNOW IS BROUGHT UP AND YES, HE'S BEATING ABOUT WHY WAS THIS WASN'T THE PROJECT WITH COURSE A TAX I KNOW YOU STATEDE IT WASN'T BUT SO WHAT WELL. LOT T OF THIS IS DON'T HAVE THE LUXU IF THEY'RE DOING BUSINESS OF PLAYING IN THTHE FUTURE TO SAY. I MEAN F FUNDING SO WHAT I GOT NO JOB TO GO TO IF THEY'RE CONCERNED A ABOUT PLAYING WHY WASN'T THIS UP TO SUCH IN NEED. SO LONG THAI WAS NOT PLANNED FOR ONE OF THE SURTAX FUNDING IMPLEMENTED ON THAT THE OTHER PERSON KNOW PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED HAVE ISSUES WITH STATING AND I KNO YOU STATED BEFORE OURUR GOVERNMENTS COULD NOT FUNCTION WITHOUT THAT DOLLARS. BUT IT FEELS MISLEADING STATE THAT YOU'RE PUSHING PHASE 2 OR 3 IF YOU START TAX BY SURTAX 5 IS NOT GUARANTEED. WE DON'T KNOW THE FUTURE W WE DON'T KNOW THE FUTURE OF WE DON'T KNOW THE FUTURE OF POLICING WE DON'T KNOWOW THE FUTURE OF PEOPLE HAV A FEW OF US ARE TAXED. PEOPLE STED WE GET WHO OPPOSE. IF THEY SEE US MOVING DOLLARS THIS ONE WAS MAKE THEM TRUST SIRTEX PROJECTS THAT WE SUBMIT THEY WILL MOVED AROUND SO. THE A LOT OF CONCERNS OUT THERE ABOUT COUNTING FUNDING NOT GUARANTEED. AND THEN THE PLANNING OF SUCH ISSUE FOR A WHILE WHY IS THIS SUCH P PURGE OF NEED NOW ALL. >> I I'LL TAKE THAT TH. >> I MEAN FIRST AND FOROREMOST YOU NEED FOR THIS POLICE SAY COURSES IN THERE FOR QUITE SOME WAS THE CIP PROJECT THAT WAS SITTING ON THE NO DECISION NO COMMISSION AT ARESSED HOW IT WAS GOING TO BE FUNDED OR WAS GOING TO BE HANDLED. HURRICANE CAME. CREATED EVEN A GREATER CRISIS BECAUSE RF SIGNIFICANTLY DAMAGED. BROUGHT THIS ISSUE MORE TO THE FOREFRONT. THE REALITY IS THAT. I JUST WILL SAY IT BECAUSE IT REALLY IS THE ELEPHANT IN THE WORLD. SURTAX FOR THIS COTY AS THIS. THE BOARD CERTAIAINLY SAFETY FOR. SIR TAXES LIKE PLASTIC. FOR THIS COUNTY. SHOULD TAX. THIS COUNTY WOULD NOT HAVE MORE WITH ANY APPELLATE EASE H HAVE THE FUNDING BILL TO ANY OF ITS CAPITAL PROJECTS. IT WOULD BE FORCED TO FIND ALTERNRNATIVE MESSAGE OR RAI EVERYBODY'S PROPERTY TAS AND EVERY OTHER MEANS OF TAXING IT COULD ALL TO MAKE UP THE BILLIONS THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO FUND THESE CAPITAL PROJECTS. SO ABSOSOLUTELY SURTAX 5 NOT EXIST I'D BE WILLING BET MY LIFE ON IT, OKAY AND I BELIEVE ANYBODY WHO'S BEING REALISTIC. WHAT SAY THE SAME AND WITH THAT IN MIND. . ONE ASKEKED TO APPRECIA SHOULD TAX. A WAY IN MY OPINION AND I HOPE EVERYBODY SITTING THE FILM RUST WAY TO PAY FOR SAFETY BECAUSE. UPN NEW POLICE HEADQUARTERS GREATER SAFETY IN R CITY WHO BENEFITS NOT JUST THE PROPERTY OWNERS PUT THE WINTERS, THE TOURISTS, THE GUESTS, PEOPLE WHO SHOP FROM AROUND THE COUNTY. EVERYBODY WHO'S GOT A STAKE IN OUR COUNTY, COLOR A LITTLE B BIT IT. FROM SAFETY AN THEY ALL CAME TO THAT SHOU TAX FUND. WHAT BETTER WAY TO PAY FOR PUBLIC SAFETY THEN WITH ALL STAKEHOLDERS PAYING THEIR FAIR SHARE. INCREASING PROPERTY TAXES. SQUARELY ON THE BACKS. FOR PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE CITY OF PORT.T. HOW MANY OF THE CHAMBEREMBERS. WITHIN THE CITY OF PORT. HOW MANY OF THEM ON PROPERTY IN THE CITY OF NORTH PORT OR DID THEY RELEASE UP TO THEY SAFER C C CY MAKE STILL BUSINESS SAFER.R. IT ALSO MAKES TO CUSTOMER SAFETY. SHOULD TAX. REALLY CREATES THE BESTST OPPORTUNITY TO SPREAD THAT COST. IF IF EVERYTHING WE COULD POSSIBLY DO TO PRAY FOR ELIMINATING NEED TO CHARGE ALL PROPERTY OWNERS AND MOST CITY INCREASE TAXES AND PUSH IT OFF MITIGATED TO EVERYTHING. >> ALLOWS OUR CITY TO GROW UP IN THAT.MORE RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND QUARTER BASIS TO BEAR THAT BURDEN DOWN THE ROAD. SO. HAVE TO SAY ANY OTHER WAY I APPRECIATE THAT THE CHBER. HAS CAN SHOW FOR SURE THAT'S BECAUSE AFTER YOUR HOPES FOR SHOULD TAX REFERENDUM. BUT. LET'BE REAL WERE ALL SEEN TEAM IN TERMS WANTING DO WHAT'S BEST. LET'S CALL. LET'S LET'S CALL IWHAT IT NOBODY, NOBODY VOTED FOR A LAUNDRY LIST PROJECTS IN EVERY MUNICIPALITY THROUGHOUT THIS COUNTY. VOTED FOR SHOULD TAX THAT WAS GOING FUND. CATEGORIES OF PROJECTS WHATEVER THEY MAY A POLICE BUILDING WAS ON THE SHORT ACTUALLY WISH 15 OTHER ITEMS. PRESENTLY ON THE LIST WERE NOT ON THAT LIST WHAT ANYBODY IF NOT VOTED. FOR SURE TAX 4 FOR COCOURSE THEY WOULD HAVE VOTED FOR IT. SO IT'IT'S SPLITTING HEIRS TO SAY WELL THIS PROJECTC WASN'T ON IT AND SHE. CITY OF NORTH PORT WANTS TO REARRANGE PRIORITIES ON PROJECTS. WE'RE PREEMPTED. >> BUT THE STATE FROM DOING A MILLION THINGS WE SHOULD BE HAMSTRUNG FROM BEING ABLE TO MAKE STRATEGIC DECISIONS AS TO WHAT PRIORITIES OF BEST IT'S PAINSTAKING TO DECIDE THAT CERTAIN WANTS AND NEEDS HAVE TO TAKE SECOND FIDDLE TO A POLICE HEADQUARTERS BUT WE NEED TO DO THAT AND AND WH YOU REALLY COME DOWN TOT SINCE WE ARE FRIENDS AND YOU KNOW I DEARLY LOVE TO CHAMBER. I WILL ASK THIS QUESTION TAKE. PRPRICE WIDENING TOOL FROM SOME TIP THE SCAL WHAT BUSINESSES ARMING TO CUT YOU OFF, BUT WE SHOULD PROBABLY GET T IN THE TO CHRISTINE ROBINSON WOULD LIKE TO. WELL I JUST LIKE TO FINISHS MY SURE FROM SUMPTER ESCAPE THAT PETE APPROVED TO ATTEND TOE A CMT SINCE HE'S BEEN SITTING THERE FOR A HOHOT SECON NOT APPROVED. THANK OKAY WE'LL SEE ON OKAY COMOMMISSIONER ELRICH WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ YOUR STATEMENT. IF I COULD FIND OKAY HAHA. IF OVER HAHA. >> YOU'RE ON VIDEO P. I GOT IT. >> AS AUTHORIZED CITY COMMISSION. NUMBER 21 DASH I'M ATTENDING. A HYBRID COMMUNICATIONS MEDIA TECHNOLOGY I A AM EXPERIENCING AND MEDICAL CONDITION INCLUDING MAY DISILITIES. 3 FROM ATTENDING PERSON N AT THIS TIME, THANK YOU. >> OK YOU KNOW I CAN REQUEST A MOTION TO APPROVE THE USE OF CMT FOR HYBRID, OU KNOW. ALL RIGHT, I HAVE A MOTION MADE B COMMISSIONER LANGDON TO APPROVE THE USE OF CMT FOR A HYBRID MEETING SECONDED BY VICE MAYOR STOKES WILL DO VOICE. VOTE. MAYOR ELLIS WHITE YES. >> COMMISSIONER LANGDON YES, VICE MAYAYOR OKES, YES, COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL, YES. >> SEWING UP >> AS THTHE VOTE I VOTE. OTHER DAY Y ARE OKAY, SO PASSES 5 TO 0. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER I MY STATEMENAND THEN. >> SOMEBODY ELSE CAN SPEAK TO BE PERFECTLY HONEST. WE'VE GOT. LET'S LET'S TARGET ONE SPECIFIC PIECE OF THE SURTAX WHICH IS THE LARGEST THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO FUND REPRIORITIZE CALL IT WHAT YOU WANT. TOO FROM SUMPTER TO THIS TO CHAMBER MEMBERS WITH ALL DUE RESPECT. HOW DOES THAT. AS I SAY TO FOR ALL AND FUNDING YOU NAME IT WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL OF PRICE AFFECT THE CHAMBER SINCE THERARE NO BUSINESSES WHATSOEVER ON THAT CARD OR. >> I MEAN I DON'T SEE HOW IT IMPACTS THTHE CHAMBER OR THE CHAMBER MEMBERS. AND AS TO QUITE FRANKLY OF THEHE SURTAX PROJOJECTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING O FUNDING REPRIOIORITIZE IN NOT ONE OF THEM AS I SEE IT IMPACTS THE CHAMBER OR MEMBERS EXCEPT PHIHILOSOPHICALLY IN THA THE CHAMBER SUPPORT IT, THE SODA TAX REFERENDUM, WHICH AGAIN I SAY WASN'T IN APPROVAL OF EACH AND EVERY PROJECT ON THAT LIST SINCE EVERY MUNICICIPALITY FULL FREEDOM TO SWAP OUT AS WELL JUST LIKE RERESPOND THAT FIRST OF >> I HOPE I'M ALIVE LONG ENOUGH FOR SURTAX 5 SO THERE. TO ANSWER YOUR Q QUESTION YOU JUST ASKED. THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC EFFECTS BUSINESS EVERYWHERE. AGAIN PEOPLE BEGIN HURRICANE IAN. THERE'S A LACK OF EAST-WEST CORRIDORS IN THE E REPORT AND A LOT OF BUSINESS RELIES ON THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC TO ONE PLACE TO ANOTHER THIS BECAUSE BOB IS ON THERE DOESN'T MEAN IT DOESN'T AFFECT IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE PARKING LOT MANY TIMES OF 41 EFFECTS BUSISS THERE. THE OTHER PART WE HEAR A LOT ABOUT. FALLING ON THBACK OF RESIDENTS. THIS IS A TYPE 2. DOUBLED BACK TO LIVE HERE. AND THEN THEY HAVE THIS A TAX AND THAT SO THEY UNDERSTAND THE MILEAGE AND STAND EFFECT THEY HAHAVE ON THAT SO THAT THEY'RE NOT FORGET ALL THAT. I JUST WANT MAKSURE THAT IT ALSO QUESTION WAS. IS THIS WAS I WAS A BALL FM IS THE ACTUAL DOLLAR AMOUNT 120 MILLION. IS THAT WHAT WAS PRESENT IS THAT THE ONLY PROJECT PRESENTED TO THIS COMMISSION OTHER ALTERNATE OF OF WHAT THEY COULD DO THAT THEY COULD CONSIDER OR THERE JUST PROJECT OF THE ONE 22, I KNOW YOU SAID A 100 MILLION THAT ARE POINT TTO BUT I WAS SO. >> DESIGR SOLTIS ARCHITECT A JUSTST PLAY THE FIRST OF ALL OF ONE 22. IT WAS SCALED FROM ONE 22 TO 100 NOW THE DIFFERENCE IN THE 2 SHELL SPACE WHICH IS THE SPSPACE LEFT FOR FUTURE BUILD COVERED PARKING WILL AND MAYBE A $9,000 IN THE OVERALL SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE BUILDLDIN SO THEY WERE THAT MINOR ENOUGH TWEAKSHAT THE POLICE CAN STILL GET WHAT THEY NEEDED IN ORDER ADDRESS THE. OVER OVERGROWTH OF THEIR CURRENT LOCATION, BUTUT STILL WITHIN UP ON THAT FOOTPRINT DELAYING THE PURCHASE TO MAXIMIZE IT AND THEN YOU COULD ACTUALLY PUT THOSE THINGS BACK THAT SOME POINT IF YOU SO DESIRED, BUT IT WAS ALWAYA SCALING OF THAT SAME MODEL IF YOU SCALE IT DOWN TOO FAR PAST WERE BELOW THE 10000 MILLION. NOW YO SORT OF VALUE IN HERE JUST SO OUT OF THE 2 IN 2 OF THE PROJECTS AND SHOULD LOOKING AT MORE OF A SUBSTATITION MODEL AS OPPOSED TO A CENTRARALIZED MODEL. HE WAS SAY THEY WILL LETS 50 OR 60 MILLION DOLLAR. STATIONED THERE AND THIS SO STATION SOMEWHERE ELSE AND THEN YOU SORT OF LOSE YOUR YOUR VALUES THE ECONOMIES OF SCALE THAT YOUAVE A CENTRALIZED EVERYTHING WE STARTED THE CENTER LINE AND YOU GOT UBLE THE COST YOU KNOW MINISISTRATION OR MAINTENANCE AND EVERYTHING AND OPPOSED TO LEAVING IT WAS SO THAT'S N NOT THE MOST EFFICIENT MODEL. BUT THOSE WERE SOME OF THE OTHER CONSIDERATIONS OF WHAT YOU AS OPPOSED TO ING TO THE TOP ONE IT. THE QUESTION FIRST. THE CITY THE CITY COMMISSION N IN FOR HOLDIN THIS MEETING IT'S REALLY FOR COMMUNICATION PURPOSES. >> I S THIS 2 SEPARATE ISSUES. YOU HAVE THE ISSUOF HOW YOU'RE GOING TO PAY FOR THTHE POLICE STATION. EQUALLY AND JUST AS IMPORTANT IS HOW WE GOT HERE AND THE HOW WE GOT HERE. WHEN IT SKIPPED OVER IT LEADS TO A QUESTION OF HOW IS WHAT WRE GOING TO DO IS THAT GOING TO BE THE RIGHT THING AT THIS POINT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ADDRESSING HOW WE GOT HERE. SO THAT'S HOW WE GOT HERE OF IT NOT GETTING ON THE WESTIRST A COUPLE OF THEY'RE ABSOLUTELY WE'RE PROJECT LIST, NOT JUST CATEGORIES ATTACH 42 COUNTY MMISSION AND ATTACHED AS CATCH MEANS TOHE COUNTY ORDINANCE THAT WAS PASSED PLACEMENT ON THE BALLOT. THOSE THAT LIST WAS UD BY THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY. TO PROMOTE SO AND THOSE WERE PUBLICLY VETTED LISISTS THAT WERE PUT TOGETHER BY REPRESENTATIVES FROM EACH OF THE MUNICIPALITIES OF THE SCHOOL BOARD AND AND THE COUNTY THAT WERE PUT TOGETHER PUBLIC MEETINGS AND PUBLICICLY BEDDED WITH INPUT FROM THE ST THROWN TOGETHER AND PUT OUT THERE THEY WERE ACTUALLY PUBLICLY THAT ITEMS THAT THAT THAT WE WENT THROUGH A PROCESS FOR SO THERE WERE PEOPLE WHO ARE INVESTED TIME WAS INVESTED THAT PEOPLE ARE INVESTED IN THE PROJECT SO IOULD DISAGREE WITH YOU AS SOMEBODY WHO WAS AN ACTIVE PARTICIPANT IN THAT CAMPAIGN THAT PEOPLE ACTUALLY DID USE THAT TO VOTE FOR THINGS I WOULULD DISAGREE YOU AND IT WAS PROMOTED BASED ON SOME OF THOSE SOME OF THOHOS ACTUAL PROJECTS. I WOULD SAY THAT THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY WAS A 100% SUPPORTIVE OF THE GOVERNMENT'S FOR INFRASTRUCTURE. I BELIEVE THE CHAMBER HAD 10 10,000 IT. THE COLLECTOR OF LEAVE THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY Y FROM NORTH COUNTY TO SOUTH COUNTY RACE $363,000 FOR 2 PASSER TAX. AND IT WAS ALL OF THOSE ORGANIZATIONS SIGNED OFF BABASE UPON THOSE LISTS IT WAS REALLYL IMPORTANT THAT IT'S WAS W WERE PUTTING OUR INTEGRITY ON THE LINE AND PROMOTING AND AND AND PAYING FOR T THAT ELECTION. SO GETTING TO HIS POINT. SOSO WHAT SO WHAT THAT WAS AND IS A PRETTY BIG DEAL TO THOSE OF US WHO QUARTER TIME AND ENERGY INTO IT AND THISWAS A TWO-YEAR EFFORT BY THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY. IT WAS A LONGONG HAUL AND LET ME TELL YOU THAT NORTH PORT CHAMBEBER WITH PROBABLY THE LOUDEST CHEERLEADER THAT OUT OF ALL THE BUSINESS ORGANIZATIONS IN THE COUNTY AND THEY'RE IN THEIR SO THE NORTH PORT CHAMBER W WAS A LEADER IN IN THAT THAT RESPT. I WILL TELL YOU THE LAST ARE TAXED THERE WE 8 SIR TAXES IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. 4 PASSED OR FAILED THE FOR THAT FAILED 2 OR CONSERVATIVE COUNTIES AND 2 WERE LOCAL COUNTIES. SAINT JOHNCOUNTY FAILED WALTON COUNTY FAILED ORANGE COUNTY FAIL HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY FAILED. THOSE SO ABSOLUTELY COULD HAVE HAPPENED HERE. I THINK GOING FORWARD THE MOST PORTANT THING IS TO BE COMPLETELY HONEST WITH WHAT YOU'RE DOING WHEN YOU'RE MOVING THESE PROJECTS OUT OF THE SURTAX WEST. HAVE TO O SAY THERE ARE UNFUNDED YOU CAN'T SAY THEY'RE ON THE LIST FOR THE FUTURE THAT MIGHT NOT HAPPENEN. AND QUITE HONESTLY I DID A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST, A SURTAX 5 WHICH DOESN'T EXIST. THERE IS NO LIST. SO I THINK BEINING TRANSPARENT BASED UPON HOW THIS GOT HERE IS REALLY IMPORTANT. IT CAN'T BE GLOSSEOVER AND I THINK THE LANGUAGE IS REALLY AND CAMPY WHATEVER LANGUAGE WEWE WANT TO USITS GOT TO BE REALLY PRECISE BEBECAUSE IT WE GOT TO THIS POINT YOU ALL ARE NOW PROPOSING TO GO OUT T TO ANOTHE REFERENDUM. AFTER CHANGING THE LIST FROM THIS REFERENDUM. I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE REGAIN SOME OF T THAT RELATIONSHIP TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT HAPPENS IN THE LANANGUAGE IS REALLY GOING TO MATTER AND THEN LAST THING I WANT TO SAY IS YOU KNOW THERERE IS BEEN A REFERENDUM THAT HAS FAILED IN IN IN SARASOTA COUNTY AND THAT WAS BACKN 2000. THE SCHOOL BOARD REFERERENDUM FAILED A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THAT WHO BUT THE SCHOOL BOARD REFERENDUM FAILED IN 2000 FAILED AS A FINANCIAL PROBLEMS AND A LACK OF TRANSPARENCY AND A LACK OF TRUST THAT SUPERINTENDENT AND THAT SCHOOL BOARD. AND THE ONLY T THING THAT RESCU THAT WHERE THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY IN THE FOUNDATION'S CAYMAN BRAC CONSULTANT SAID INSIDE OUT REVIEW OF HOW IT CAME TO BE BEFORE WE GOT TO THAT P POINT AND THEN THEY REGAIN AED IT OUT AND REGAIN THE TRUST OF THE COMMUNINITY AGAIN. I APPRECIATE THAT YOUR CONFIDENCE AND THAT T SURTAX 5 MAY PASS IN 15 YEARS. BUT WE HAVE PLENTY OF EXAMPLES WHERE IT MAY NOT BUT I WOULD SAY TO YOU I THINK IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN ALL BON THE SAME PAGE. I THINK MAKING SURE WE'RE RESPECTING THE FACT TH HOW WE GOT HERE IS REALLY IMPORTRTANT TO THE CHAMBER AND TO THE BUSINESS COMOMMUNITY. IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT AND. >> REALLY I WILL SPEAK PROCEED BECAUSE BECAUSE I AGREE WITH A LOT OF Y SAY, AND. WITHOUT THE CHAMBER. AND THE EFFORTS OFOF THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY. NO JUST THIS BUT A WHOLE LOTF THINGS DON'T IN OUR CITY NOT GREAT CITY AS IT FOR US OUR COUNTY IS GRT. I YOU KNOW WITH WITH OUT ALL THE ASSISTANCE OF CORPUS COMMUNITY ALL THAT SAID WHEN IT COMES S T TRANSPARENCY, YOU KNOW IT'S. SOMETIMES. THINGS CNGE. >> AND AND AND AGAIN CITIES ARE DYNAMIC. A PALLET PRIORITIES CHANGE IFT. I I'D LIKE TO THINK THAT THIS CITY HAS PRIDED ITSELF AND TRYING TO BE TREMELY TRANSPENT SOMETIMES WORDSMITH THING CAN GET YOU IN KIND OF FOOTBALL SORT YOU SAW IN THE IN ONE OF CHAMBER MEETINGS WHERE I SAY. YOU CAN CALL PRIORITY STATION OR YOU CAN CALL IT IS. IT'S UNFUNDED YOUR **** FUNDED FOR THE TIME BEING AND HOPEFULLY YOU FIND A WAY TO FUND IT OR FIND A WORKAROUND SO I APPRECIATETE THAT ALSO AND AND THINK THOUGH THAT WERE THIS A ASK NOT SO RIGEOUS. YOU COULDN'T FLOODING WON'T ALL OUR PILLARS. ARE ARE EQUAL AND MAKE SURE ARE NECESSARY HAVE STABLE COMMUNITY. PUBLIC SAFETY IS SO IMPORTANT BECAUSES ALL THE OTHER PILLARS HEAT OR FOR THAT AND SO I THINK THIS PROPERTY THIS PROJECT IS SUCH A RIGHTEOUS THAT WALL YES IN N THE EARLY STAGES, WE HAVEN'T EVEN STARTED TO GENENERATE SURTAX FOR REVENUES IN THE DOOR AND HERE WE MAKING A MAJOR. YOU KNOW CHANGE TO THAT LIST. YEAH, YOU COULD LOOK AT IT LIKE MAN, IT'S JUST SO BAIT AND SWITCH ASSISTANT. BUT IT'S SUCH A RIGHTEOUS ASK. I TO IT. HOW DID WORD AND AND THAT'S WHAT WE FACE AS LEADERS IN THE CITY AND IN IN EFFORTS OF TRANSPARENCY AND INCLUSIVESS. WE HERE TALKING ABOUT IT. WE REFRAIN FROM MAKING TSE DECISIONS. TILT EVERERYBODY'S HEARD TWO-WEEK TORN IT APART TURNED INSIDE OUT UPSIDE DOWN EVERY WHICH WATO TRY TO COME UP WITH THAT. BEST BALANCE TO MAKE THIS PROJECT HAPPEN THE E SAME TIMEME NOT LOSE SIGHT OF ALL TH PRIORITIES THAT YOU'LL SUPPORTED IN THE SURF THAT'S LIST AND FIND A WAY SET UP TO SANDY YESTERDAY. >> SHE TOOOOK BECAUSE ONE THING BECAUSE SO MUCH OFARKS AND RECS YOU CAN CALL WHAT'S NOT NEEDS. BUT ARE THEY REALLY THEIR PRIORITIES FOR THE QUALITY OF LIFE OUR CI SO IF WE'RE GOING TO. ON FUN, SOMETHING TO USE THOSE THAT WORDTHE WEEK. HOHOW DO WE GET AROUND HOW DO WE FIND A SOLUTION TO PROVI SOME OF THOSE PRIORITIES AND OTHER WAY SO. WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE'RE TRYING EVERYTHING WE CAN WE'RE TRNG TO BE AS INCLUSIVE TRYING TO BE AS RIGHTEOUS THIS IS NOT LIKE LET'S JUST CREATE LIKE WHAT'S LED 80 F FOOT YACHT FOR THE COMMISSIONERS TO TO AL THIS IS POLICE SAFETY STEPS. >> I JUST WANTED THAT >> THAT'S ONLY WHAT OTHER PROJECTS BEING CONSIDERE FUNDING. I KNOW YOU HAVE PRICE I THOUGHT THAT WAS THE WHAT ELSE BEING WITHOUT LIST EVERY RIGHT BUT HOW MUCH MONEY AT 7 2222. SO SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 72 MILLION OF US ARE DECKS. SO YESTERDAY THERE W WAS A MEETING WHERE THE THROUGH. >> THE ENTIRE TEXAS AND THEY EITHER IDENTIFIED PROJECTS THAT THEY THOUGHT BE DEFERRED FOR PATIENTS ON PROJEC THEY THOUGHT COULD DEFERRED THERE WERE NO DECISIONREGARDING THOSE PROJECT JUST TODAY IN FRONT OF THIS CONVERSATION, BUT T THEY DIDN'T WANT TO HEAR FROM THIS GROUP AS THEY ARE CONSIDERING THE CONVERSATION HAD TOTAL IF I'M CORRECT WOULD BE AROUND 70 TO 75 MILLION DOLLARS OUT OFOF SURTAX MONEY I EVERYTHING'S ALLIGHT. THANK YOU. >> MICHELLE THANK YOU. YES. I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION. . THE CITY GENERATE AND SUFFICNT REVENUE TO ITS GENERAL FUND. AND WHY IS THAT IT'S BECACAUSE PERCENT OF OUR LAND USE IS CURRRRENTLY ZONED COMMERCIAL OF ALL TYPES INDUSTRIAL OFFICE. A PERCENT EXPERTS IN THIS AREA SAY THAT IF YOU WANT TO HAVE HEALTHY BALANCED BUDGET. YOU NEED 20 TO 30% OF YOUR LAND USALL COMMERCIAL. SO THIS CITY IS EXTREMELY DEFICIT POSITION RELATIVE TO ITS HAUNTING US TODAY, IT'S GOING TO HAUNTS YEARS TO COME. AGN, I'M NOT ONE FOR LOOKING BACKWARDS OFFER OKAY, HERE'S THE MASK IN FRONT OF US WHAT'S OUR BEST PATH FORWARD AS A CITY WITH ALL OF OUR PARTNERS SO WE'RE TRYING TACKLE THAT. I ALSO WANT TO MAKE COMMENT ON IMPA FEES BECAUSE THAT MIGHT NOT BE GENERAL KNOWLEDGE THAT IT'S NOT LIKE WE COLLE IMPACT FEES AND THERE AND A BIG BUCKET. WELL WE VE DISCRETION 2 DOLLS THAT ONEY OUT IT'S BROKEN UP AND ITS ALLOCATED TO SPECIFIC ENRPRISE FUNDS AND DEPARTMENTS AND THAT HASAS TO B SPENT FOR THAT USE. SO WEAK SO NOT ONLY HAVWE JUST RECENTLTLY STARTED COLLECTING SUFFICIENT IMPACT FEES BECAUSE GENERALLY SPEAKING GROWTH SHOULD FUND GROWTH. BBUT WE HAVEN'T BEEN COLLECTING THOSE FEES LONG ENOUGH TO BUILD A WAR CHEST IN THE AREAS WHERE WE NEED SO PART OF THE CONVERSATION WILL HAVE MOVING FORWARD AS WE FIGURE OUT HOW DO WE FUND D THI THING AND THERE ARE ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT WAYS BUT T THEY ALREADY CAME UP IN THIS MEETING DIFFERENT KINDS OF BONDS VERY DIFFERENT. THAT THEY ALL HAVE IMPLICATIONS SOME ARE MORE COSTLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE OVERALCOST OF THE SO REQUIRES MORE OF AN IMPACT OF PROPERTY FEES. I MEAN IT'S IT'S VERY COMPLICATED. SO AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WE NEED TO BALANCE A NUMBER OF THINGS WE'RE ASKING POLICE CHIEF EVALUATE CAN LIVES WITH A 100 MILLION DOLLAR MODODEL HE MIGHT HAVE TO GIVE UP SOME. WE AGREED YESTERDAY I BELIEVE AS A COMMISSION THAT HOWEVER WE PROCEED WE WANT TO DO A COUPLE THINGS MINIMIZE ANY IMPACT TO OUR TAX PAYERS AND MAKE SURE THAT NO SARAH TAX FUNDED PRPROJECTS THAT ARE TRULY ESSENTIAL. GET DENDED OR AN INFANT. HOWEWEVER WE WANT TO TERM THAT. SO WE'RE WE'RE JUST WE'R'RE NOT IN A GREAT POSITION AND WE DON'T HAVE MANY OPTIONS AND WERE CONSTRAINED AND A LOT OF AREAS AND AND SO REALLY WE'RE TRTRYING TO DO THE BEST W CAN AND YOU GUYS HAVE SUCH IMPORTANT PARTNERS TO US. I'M HOPING YOU CAN COME ALONG ISIS AS WE TRY TO BALANCE ALL OF THOSE SOMETIMES COMPETING, THANKS. IT AIN'T EASY. I JUST WANTEDED TO ADD TO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT THE THE LIST IS BEING PUBLICLY THAT IT AND THAT THAT'S TRUE PEOPLE. ARE AWARE OF WHAT'S ON BUT I THINK MAYBE WHAT VICE MAYOR WAS ALLUDIDING TO THAT'S NOT ON THE BALLOT THAT THEY'RE NOT LOOKING ATAT EVERY SINGLE PROJECT AND I SERVED ON THE OVOVERSIGHT. COMMITTEE HERE IN NORTH PORT FOR 2 YEARS AND. THERE WAS NEVER ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC THERE OTHER THAN THOSE THE COMMITTEE, HOWEVER THAT'S ONE OF THE BRAVES STADIUM. ON BOARD THAT WAS NOT ON ANY SURTAX PREVIOUS AND NO MONEYS HAD TO BE SFFLED FOR THAT SO I THINK THAT'S WE DO HAVE THAT ABILITY TO SHUFFLE THINGS AROUND AS THINGS NEEDS COME OFF JUST LIKE WHEN THAT STADIUM CAME UP. EY FOUND, BUT IT WAS A 7 MILLION DOLLARS CAN SHIP IT TO THAT TO S START 407 MILLION. THANK YOU. >> OKAY. AND THAT DIDN'T EXIST IN THE EARLY SURTAX FOLDERS THAT WE HAVE GOTTEN AND THERE WAS OBVIOUSLY THAT MONEY WAS PULLED FROM OTHER. EACH. YES, THANK YEAH, OH, COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL SURE TASTE IT WAS TOWARDS THEND OF LIFE SURTAX THAT WAS VOTED ON BY THE VOTERS. >> A AND IT WAS USED FOR BECAUS WE HAD. PRPROJECTS THAT WE KNEW WE WEREN'T GOING TO BE FORWARD WE WE HAD. >> ACCESS I SAY THAT MASSIVE AIR QUOTES. WHAT'S AVAILABLE >> AND I ABSOLUTELY RESPECT THE CHAMBER'S CONCERNS THEY ARE MY CONCERT, I SAID IT YESTERDAY'S MEETING. WE HAVEN'T EVEN STARTED SURTAX FAR FOR ME ANDND HERE WE ARE REDESIGNING OUR PROJECT LIST TO BE ABLE TO GET THE FOR POLICE STATION AND IN THE OC POLICE DO NOT LOSE SIGHT THAT PART OF THESE JUGGLING OF MONEYS IS ALSO TO BUILD EMERGENCY OPERATION N CENTER. SO. THIS WAS CONCERNING TO ME. IT STILL IS CONCERNEDED IT HAS NOT BEEN VOTED ON. AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL. RELY HEAVILY ON OUTSIDE FOES THAT HAVE COMPETING. POINTS OF INTEREST. DIFFERENT VIEWPOINTS TO HELP ME NAVIGATE WHAT IS THE BEST PATH FORORWARD. SO WHILE I'M HEARING THAT THERE'S CONCERN THAT I EVEN SHARED WITH HAVING SURTAX LIST SCRUTINIZED EVEN FURTRTHER AND UNFUNDED OR DEFUN IT. I WANT TO HEAR OTHER OPTIONS THAT WE AS A CITY ME AS ELECTED OFFICIAL MAY NOT BE AWARE THAT WE CAN DO GRANT MONEY. ALREADY BEEN SPOKEN ABOUT. THERE'S GRANTS OUT THERE THEY'RE FEW FAR BETWEEN N AND THEY'RE NOT ENOUGH MONEY AND IT'S A VERY LONG PROCESS THAT PROBABLY HAS A LOT OF STRINGS ATTACHED TIT THAT THE CITY CANNOT ACCOMPLISH. APPROPRIATIONS FROM THE FEDERAL AND STATE LEVEL. LOOK AT A ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMPETING FOR THAT WE'VE ALREADY WE PUT IN FOR AN APPROPRIATIONS R IT. LICE HEADQUARTERS AND FOR O C WE'RE STILL WAITING TO FIND OUT IF THAT MONEY'S AVAILABLE. GOVERNOR HAS VETO POWER. YOU KNOW AND AND WHO KNOWS WHAT WHAT'S GOING WHAT THAT'S GOING LOOK LIKE SO WE CAN HOW ON THAT MONEY SIRTEX 5 ABSOLUTELY DOES NOT EXIST. I DO COUNT ON IT. THAT'S 15 YEARS AWAY AND MY CRYSTAL BL DOESN'T TELL ME THAT YES THE VOTERS ARE GOING TO PROVE IT BECAUSE I LIVED HERE 2000 THE SCHOOL BOARD LOST THEIR FUNDING AND I THAT CONSEQUENCE WE HAVE A REREFERENDUM COMING UP THAT NOT ONLY IS FOR OUR CITY. BUBUT IT IS ALSO AGAIN FOR THE SCHOOL BOARD. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE APPETE VOTERS ARE GOING TO BE. I REALLY AM RELYING ON. THE CHCHAMBER AND THE CITIZENS AND THE BUSINESSES TO HELP ME. THE CITY COME UP WITH ALTERNATIVE FUNDING OPTIONS THAT MAY BAVAILABLE THAT WE CAN USE. WE JUST MAY NOT BE WWE ARE STAFF IS DONE SO TO TRY IDENTIFY BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER. LITTLE POCKETS OF MONEY I AM MORTHAN WILLING TO HEHEAR ON AND I'M SURE THE CITY MANAR AND STAFF. OK SO. FOR SEAN SECOND IT SEEMS LIKE LIKE THAT I MIGHT STEAL WHAT'S CHANGI OKAY HAHA. >> WE'RE IN A GROWING PORT SOME BIG-TIME GROWING PAINS T EVERYBODY'S NEEDS AND YOUR WANTS ARE GOING TO BE HOWEVER. I BELIEVE THAT IF WE ACT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF. MAKING NORTH PORT EVEN MORE ATTRACTIVE THAIT CURRENTLY IS IT WILLLL DROP THE BUSINESS WILL DRAW THE PRPRESIDENT'S WHICH WILL ALLOW US TO MAKE UP THAT GAP. SO IN END IT IN A NUTSHELL. WE SORT OF GOT OF THAT ON OURSRSELVES. WE SORT OF HAVE TO BET ON OURSELVES. THE FACT THAT WE CAN DO THESE PROJECTS BUNCOMFORTABLE FOR A LITTLE WHILE TIGHTEN OUR BELTS. BUT MAKE IT HAPPEN BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WE CAN COMPROMISE ON. YOU KNOW IN ORDER TO HAVE THE GROWTH THAT WE'RE TRYING TO EXPECT. WE NEED THE PRESENCE OF THE POLICE FORCE WE NEED THE PRESENCE OF A STRORONG FIRE DEPARTMENT AS WELL. BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T HAVE THOSE THINGS WHAT YEAH I'M NOT GOING TO NORTH PORT WE'VE BEEN EXCUSE EXPRESSION REDDIT STEPPED FOR WAY WITH THAT COMBS THE ALL RIGHT WE'VE GOT TO GROW WHERE CAN GET THE MONEY FROM. IT IS WHAT TALK OF CHANGE. WE TAKE THIS CONVERSATION NEXT YEAR STILL GOING THE SAME ISSUES WHAT WE NEED TO DO. SO WHERE DO WE WANT TO DO IT'T'S SORRY TO MARINE CORPS THING WHICH MAKE IT HAPPEN. HAVE TO BE PRETTY ST DUNK. AND THIS IS ONONE OF THE STATE DOESN'T HAVE TO BE PRETTY GOING HAPPEN. SO I THINK IF WE AS THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY CAN GET THE INSURANCE WHICH OUT LIST OF CITY KAN TO THE BUSINESS S COMMUNITY AND TO THE PUBLIC SAYING THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE TO UNFORTUNATELY, HOWEVER. BEING A BEING OPEN TO RECEIVE THE CRITICISM COMES BECAUSE I KNOW OUR CITY DOE'T HAVE ANY ISSUES CRITICIZING BUT ING ACCOUNTABLE TO THE CHANGES THAT WE'RE MAKING AND WHEN IT'S TIME FOR R IT TO COME BACK AGAIN. PUT THOSE THINGS BACK ON THE TABLE FIRST VEVERSUS CONTINUING IT KICK IT DOWN THE CAPE THERE KICKING DOWN THE ROAD. SO. WHERE DO WE END UP. YOU JUST GOT TO RIDE IT OUT. LET'S MAKE IT HAPPEN. LET'S DO AT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF OF COMMUNITY BEST INTEREST OF OUR RESIDENTS. LET'S GO FORWARD. >> YOU MENTION THAT SEE IS THAT PART OF THE 100 OR 122 MODEL THAT ABOVE AND BEYOND THOSE >> YES, IT DIFFERENT. IT'S DIFFERENT LOCATION FFERENT BUILDING, LOCATED RIGHT HERE AT CITY CENTER AND I THINK THAT COSTS LESS THAN POINT 11.2 MILLION. AND THAT START TAX. THANK FOR ALL OF US ARE CHECKS FOR JUST FOR CLAY. >> WHEN YOU MATURE WITH THE COMMISSION'S TALK OUT CURB SO THEY OUT THAT RIGHT NOW YOU COULD JUST DO THAT. >> YES, SO WHEN WHEN YOU. GRADUATED FROM LOOKINGNG AT THE PATIENT EXPANSION OF THE CURRENT MODEL FROM 20 MILLION OF $22 EFFORT. IT WAS EXPLORED COULD YOU ACTUTUALLY RENOVATE THAT CURRENT BUIUILDING WHICH CAME IN AT APPROXIMATELY THE SAME CAUSE I THINK MAY BE A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN BUILDING A NEW BUILDINGNG. SO THAT'S HOW WE G TO THE POINT OF BUILDING A NEW BUILDING. THE CURRENT BUILDING THAT WE EVEN AFTER WE FINISHED REPAIRS HURRICANE IAN THAT ARE STILL CURRENT. WE WOULD LIKE FOR THAT BUILDING BE PURPOSEFUL MORSI USE OUR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT HAS OUTGROWN THEIR U USE ON THE FIRST FLOOR. THEY HAVE TO LIVE THE 2 TRAINS FOR SORT OF. PURCHAHASE IT THAT BUILDING AT GOOD AMOUNUNT OF MONEY THAT WE CAN TRANSFER FOR THE USE O THPROJECT THEY'RE STILL WORKING OUT THE DETAILS OF WHAT PERCENT OF THE BUILDING WOULD HAVE TO BE USED BASED ON THE FUNDING SOURCE THAT THEY COULD USE BECAUSE THERE IS A CONNECTION TO MAKG SURE THAT THE MONEY THAT IS FOFOR THE PEOPLE WHO WERE USING IT. SO MAKING SURE THAT ALL THAT'S PROPERLY. IN VISION WE COULD DO THAT AND THEN BE ABLE TO KEEP THAT BUILDING UNDER CITY CONTROL TO USE FOR TEXAS FROM THIS BUILDING AND THIS SHOULD A VERY SPECIFIC WHERE THAT MONEY WOULD COME FROROM IT'S TH BUILDING FUND JUST TO BUILD CORRECT. SO THIS THE INTERPRETATION THAT THAT WOULD JUST BE ANOTHER TAX. PAYING FOR THAT IS THE BUILDING FUND WHICH ARE SEPARATE FEES THAT ARE CHCHARGED. AND ONE OF THE REASONS Y IT CAME IN THAT THE. >> TO A MODIFIED THE EXISTSTING BUILDING WAS BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO HOUSE THE PEOPLE OR WORKING IN THERE SEWHERE NOW YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR THOSE. THOSE STRUCTURES, WHATEVER THEY WOULD BRING TO DO THAT AND BECAUSE I QUESTION THAT SAME THING WOULD THAT AS MUCH IF NOT MORE MONEYND THAT'S WHY. >> AND MAYOR IF I MIGHT ADD I THINK EXPANDING WITH NOT ONLY OUTGROWN THE BUBUILDING OF GROW THE FOOTPRINT OF THE LAND. SO THE OPTION WAS GOING UP WHICH WOULD HAVE REQUIRED THAT WE BUILDING UP TO CODE THAT'S WHAT MADE THE RENOVATIONS SO VERY EXPENSIVE. >> COMMISSIONER AVERAGE DID YOU HAVE ANYTHTHING TO WHAT YOU WANTED TO OUR ASK. >> YEAH THIS TIME I SAW THE LIST TO BOTH SITES I THINK THE CONVERSATIONS GOING VERY WELL. SO FAR. BUT WE DO HAVE TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT FOR THE CITIZENS AS WELL AND PEOPLE ARE SAFE DO U SAY. SO LET'S GET THERE SOMEHOW BETWEEN BOTHTH GROUPS TODAY. >> ALL RIGHT THANK YOU. I DO I HAVE ANYBODY I DON'T SEE E ANY >> REAL QUICK ST. POINT INFORMATIOI BELIEVE IT BROKEN TODAY'S NEWS THAT I BELIEVE CHRISTINE YOU MENTIONED HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY Y WAS ONE THAT. I BELIEVE TODAY THEY ANNOUNCED THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT RAISING THEIR MILEAGE ONE BILL. >> GENERAL A LITTLE UNDER A BILLION DOLLARS TAXES. ONE WAY OR THE OTHER YOU'RE GOING TO FIND THE MONEY. IT SOMEBODY EVERYBODY GET ALL THE INFORMATION BELIEVE I KNOW THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS HIS OWN DISTRICT THAT THOSE DOLLARS CAN NOT BE. TOUCH RIGHT FOR THIS DISTRICT POLICE DOESN'T OUTSIDE COLLEGE TRITE E YOU. PLUS SCOTT SHARE SOME MONEY >> AND SEAN I I APPRECIATE YOU SPEAKING OUT HOW IMPORTANT IS OUT A SAFE COMMUNITY I'VE MENTIONED THIS BECAUSE I CAME TO PORT 1991 OF FIRST THINGSGS ON MY CHECKLIST WAS I WANTED TO LIVE IN A MUNICIPALITY THAT ITS OWN POLICE FORCE AND FIRE DEPARTMENT. . I DID KNOW NOT NO KNOW DISRESPECT BUT DOES NOT WANT TO LIVE IN N ANY UNINCORPORATED AREAS. >> I WILL SAY FROM FROM THE PERSPECTIVE REAL ESTATE, IT IS ONE OF THE NUMBER ONE QUESTION WE GET SAFETY A COMPROMISE OUR SAFETY IS NOT OPTION. SO WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE MOVING FORWARD IN THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT BECAUSE WE WANT GROW IF WE COMPROSE OUR AND THAT'S ALL THERE IS TO COMMISSIONER. >> IF I MAY BE SO O BOLD. >> MAYBE WE CAN ASK THE CI MANAGER TO SEND THE LIST THTHAT WE TENTATIVELY HAD TALKED ABOUT YESTERDAY SOME OF THAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT POPOSSIBLY HAVE SEEN KIND OF THING. HAVE FUNDING HAVE FUNDING. MAYBE WHAT WE CAN DO IS HAVE CITY MANAGER SAID THAT LIST TO THE CHAMBER HAS A CHAMBER BOARD OFFLINE WITHOUT YEAR AND LIST AND KIND OF GIVE US SOME OF YOUR FEEDBACK TO THAT LIST. I THINK FROM MY OWN. WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL IF GOT THAT FEEDBACK FROM THE CHAMBER AND POSSIBLY EVEN THE FOUNDATION IN THE BUSINESS IS FROM NORTH TO SOUTH COUNTY THAT HELPED WITH OUR S SURTAX ON PASSING THAT YOU HAD MENTIONED MISS CHRISTINE AND HAVING T THAT FED IT ♪ ALI AND. TIME IS NOT ON ♪ OUR CONSTRUCTION COSTS CONTINUE TO GO OUT. SO YOU KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF HOMEWORK WE STILL HAVE TO D BUT THE LET BALLLLOT LANGUAGE HAS TO AND BY AUGUST TO THE SUPERVISOR OF F ELECTIONS SO CA BE PUT ONTO THE BALLOT IN NOVEMBERWE'RE STILL WORKING OUT WITH THING WHICH LOOKS LIKE BUT I REALLY WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR FEEDBACK TO HELP ME MAKE MY DECISION. >> AND I HADTHAT DOWN WHAT SPECIFIC SIRTEX X PROJECTS TO FOR THE CHAMBER, SHE'S EARNED ABOUT THAT'S WHAT I WROTE DOWN HERE S SO THAT WOULD BE THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL BE SOME OF THEY WEREN'T EVEN FULLY FUNDED THAT'S WHY PROJECTS, THEY WOULDN'T'T HAPPEN ANYWAY. BUT WILLHE 22 MILLION MENTIONED THAT WAS FROM THE JUST GAVE YEAH THETHER 50 MILLION IS ST REALLY 2, AND THEN ADDITIONAL REVENUES THAT WE'RE PROJECTING SINCE WE STARTED THE BEGINNING. >>>> SOME SAID PROJECTED REVENU I HEARD. ND THOSE 315 MILLION DOLLARS WAS ORIGINAL PROJECTION THAT POSITION NOW IT LOOKS LIKE YOU GUYS MAKE THE CASE TO 3.60 IS THAT CORRECT. SO THOSE ARE NEW DOLLARS YOU TALKED ABOUT THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CITY WILLAY. WE HAVAVE JUST A CALLED PROJECTIONS. AND THE NEW MEE FROM 3.15 FOR THAT TO VERY GOOD THAT HE DID QUESTION TO THE WHAT YOU JUST SAID COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL, SO I UNDERSTAND THAT SOMETIMES SURTAX PROJECTS FULLY FUNDED PUT THEM FORWA, BUT THERE'S AN INTENT TO USE OTHER FUNDING, SOMETIMES IT'S GENERAL FUND SOME TIME IMPACT FEES. >> OF IT WHEN WE GET THAT LIST CAN OF PARTIALLY FUNDED IF WE COULD ALSO UNDERSTAND WHAT OTHER. WHAT OTHESOURCES WERE INTENDED TO FUND THAT FOR THOSE PROJECTS AS WELL SOME OF THEM WILL EXEXTRA FUNDING BUT SOME SOME OF THEM HAVE UP PREPROGRAMMED INTEND TO USE OTHERS THAT'S A FUNNY Y IT WOUL BE HELPFUL FOR US TO KNOW WHAT IS TRULY. PARTIALLY FUNDED BY SURTAX AND WITH NO OTHER FUNDING AVAILABLE TO IT AND UNDERFUNDED. OR SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE FULLY FUNDED WITH SURTAX AND OTHER ITEMS AND THTHAT WITH THAT INTENT MAKING SENSNSE GET I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR STAFF AS TO THOS PROJECTS PLEASE DON'T MINDERSTAND. >> THE FIRST 5 YEARS OF SURTAX LIKE. ALMOST ALL OF IT IS ALREADY OKEN FOR PRICE BOULEVARD PHASE ONE FROM SUMPTER TO TOLEDO BLADE. THERE'S A FEW OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE A POCKETS FIRST 5 YOUR BUCKET GET STARTED. WE ALL KNOW THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION IS SO. KNOW RIGHT NOW THAT I DON'T KNOW IF THEY EVEN KNOW WHAT THOSE OJECTIONS MAY LOOK LIKE FOR A PROJECT FROM 10 YEARS 15 YEARS OUT SO SO IT MAY NOT BE COMPLETE AND I IT CANNOT ISOLAT BE ACCURATE. SO I JUST WANTED TO PREFACE I'M SURE STAFF WILL BE ABLE TO GET SOMETHING TOGETHER BUT I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOFOR THEM SO MAYBE WE SHOULD DIRECTED TO THAT. ONE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. >> CALLING IT A LITTLE OFF SEAN'S COMNTS IS IS FOR. CHAMBER UNDERSTAND REALLY EVERYONE WHOAY BE LISTENING MORE WILL LISTEN AT SOME POINT TO THIS STAT. ♪ THE PROJECTS YOU KNOW OUR CALL TO TAKE SECOND FIDDLE TO THIS ♪ POLICE HEADQUARTERS. WILL LOT A CITY. YOU CAN FOLLOW UP ON. FINDING. OUT OF THE BOX CREATIVE WAYS TO GET SOME OF THESE PRIORITIES TOP DARYL ORR. MYRIAD OF RESOURCES OUT THERE THERE THERE WAS FUNDING AVAILABLE FOR SOME OF THESE PROJECTS. TO SURURTAX WITH PARTNERSHIPS WITH US COUNTY STATE WITH I MEAN THERE'S JUST A WHOLE LOT OF WAYS Y CAN SCAN THE CATS AND SO WOULDN'T WANT ANYBODY FOR A MINUTE TO THINK THAT. ♪ ♪ HERE'S THE LIST OF PROJECTS THAT WILL BE FUND THAT THEY'RE JUST GOING TO GO PUT ON A SHELF SOMEWHERE LIKE THERE WILL BE PEOPLE WORKING NONSTOP ON THESE THINGS HOW DO WE STILL ACCOMPLISH THIS IS THERE ANOTHER WAY TO DO IT HOW CAN WE FIND A WAY BECAUSE. >> YOU CAN CALL WHAT THEY ARE PRIORITIES IIKE THAT BETTTTER WANT SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING THAT WELL YOU DON'T REALLY HAVE TO HAVE BUT BUT A PRIORITY IS SOMETHING THAT IS A PRIORITY BECAUSE IT'S PART OF THE KILLER. IT'S PART OF WHAT TO QUALITY OF LIFE IN MANY CASES AS THESE PROJECTS ARE AND WE WILL WORK TIRELESSLY TO FIND WAYS TO ACCOMPLISH THESE FOR OUR CITIZENS. YOU KNOW IN ADDITIOIO TO GETTING THIS POLICE GUN LIKE SHORTS S WE'LL FIND A WAY TO GET IT DONE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER WILL FIND A WAWAY TO GET IT DONE. THE BEST BALLOTS. WE CAN COME UP WITH AND AND WEWE APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS AND AND THE PUSHBACK AND THE QUESTION BECAUSE YOU TO HELP FORCE US TO BE MORE OPEN MORE TRANSPARENT MORE INCLUSIVE BECAUSE WE ALL STAND TO GAIN OR LOSE IF. WE DON'T DO THIS THE BEST WE CAN SO HOPOPEFULLY THAT GIVES YOU COUPLE OF SOME LEVEL OF COMFORT THAT YOU KNOW WE REALLY ARE TRYINING ALL PULLING RIGHT DIRECTION ON IS AND DO THE RIGHT >> OKAY DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE HEY WANTED TO DO WANT MAKE I CAN MAKE A MOTION LIKE TO GIVE CITY MANAGER DIRECTION YES THAT WE'VE GOT MAKE SURE THERE'S NO OTHER DISCUSSION. YOU WANT TO MAKE MOTION BEFORE PUBLIC COMMENTER ASKED I HAVE TO PUBLIC >> WE HAVE PUBLIC. >> IT'S SUCH GOT OFF NO PHONE MAYBE BROTHER OKAY, THERE IS GO AHEAD COMMISSIOIONER. MIGHT NEED SHORE. THAT WAS MY CITY FALL. >> HAHA. >> WHY DON'T SHUT MY CITY AND ASK MAMASK THIS CAME A QUESTION >> IT THIS KIND CHRISTINE WAS ASKING FOR WHAT WOULD YOU CALL IS IT LIKE TOTOTAL PROJECT FUNDING. >> SO WHAT LIST THAT'S BEING CONSERED FROM YESTERDAY ARE SPEAKING UP WANTED TO KNOW IF THERE'S OTHER FUNDING ALREADY ALLOCATED TO SINCE WE'RE AT LEAST 10 YEARS SAY IN MOST CASES NOT THAT WILL RTAINLY TAKE A LOOK AT AND MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING PARTY ALLOCATED IN ADDITION TO THAT SURTAX WORDING THAT MOTION. OKAY WELL I DON'T MY BE IF NEED TO PLEAS 2 MAKE A MOTN TO DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER TO PRPROVIDE TO THE CHAMBER. ANGELES CHRISTINE'S ORGANIZATION, THE COMMISSIONERS TENTATIVE LIST OF PROJECTS BEINING DEFUNDED OR HALF FUNDED ALONG WITH OTHER FUNDING ALLOCATIONS AVAILABLE ANAND A COPY OF EACH PROJECTS CIIF IT'S AVAILABLE. >> ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE BY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL CITY CLERK CAN YOU READ THAT BACK FOR PROBABLY A SPECIAL KIND OF SET AND OTHER FUNDING ALLOCATIONS IF AVAILABLE. AND A COPY OF THE CIP CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT IF THAT ISN'T DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER TO PROVIDE THE CHAMBER AND. CHRISTINE'S S ORGANIZATION HAS ARGUS CORRECEC LEFT IT IT GEALL OF AND TO CHRISTINE ROBINSON HAHA. >> TENTATIVE LIST OF PROJECTS BEING DEFUNDED OR HAHALF FUNDED INCLUDING ALL FUNDING ALLOLOCATIONS IF AVAILABLE AND COPY OF THE CIP SHEETS AVAILABLE. >> AND IT WAS BASED ON THE COMMISSION'S DISCUSSION YESTERDAY WAS AT THE BEGINNING AFTER CHRISTINE'S ORGANIZATION. >> SO TO DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER RIDE TO THE CHAMBER AND CHRISTINE ROBERTSON BASED ON COMMISSIONERERS DISCUSSION THE TENTATIVE ST OF PROJECTS BEING DEFUNDED OR HAVE FUNDED CLUDING OFF FUNDING ALLOCATIONS OF AVAILABLE AND A COPY OF THE CIP SHEETS IF AVAILABLE. OKAY, SO THAT'S THE MOTION. >> A SECOND. IN A CASE VICE MAYOR HOPEFUL SECOND THAT. ALL RIGHT WE'LL DO A VOICE VOTE. MAYOR ALEX LIKE YES, VICE MAYOR. COMMISSIONER LLANGDON YES COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER, I'M RICH. YES SO THAT PASSES 5 TO 0 THANKS FOR THE MOTION COMMISSIER I JUST I'M SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS AND CITY MANAGER WILL PROBABLY BE GETTING THAT TO VERY SOON. >> BOTH WE UNDERSTAND IS THAT A LOT OF PROJECTS ON HIS I DON'T THINK IT'LL BE TOMORROW OKAY ANYTHING ELSE. NOT A YES, I JUST WANT TO THANK HAVE I I REALLY THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT GET TOGETHER LIKE THIS ON A REGULAR BASIS. >> AND I THINK I THINK I THINK THAT THE CITY AND THAT I THK WE CAN IMPROVE HOW WE COMMUNICATE WITH OUR AND I THINK THIS IS A REALLY GOOD FIRST STEP TO THANK THANK SAYING THAT WERE MY ALL RIGHT I'M TO 20 AND I TO THANK YOU GUYS,