TUESDAY APRIL SECOND 2024, IT  IS 01:00PM WE IN ROUTE TO 44.  AND I CALL THE CITY COMMISSION  JOINT MEETING TO ORDER THIS IS  A HYBRID WILL BE A HYBRID  MEETING. THIS MEETING HAS BEEN  PROPERLY NOTICED IT WILL BE  CONDUCTED AS A HYBRID MEETING  REQUIRE THE USE OF  COMMUNICATIONS MEDIA  TECHNOLOGY. A PHYSICAL QUORUM  OF VOTING MEMBERS IS PRESENT  AND CITY COMMISSION CHAMBERS,  A HYBRID MEETING ALLOWS VOTING  MEMBERS TO ATTEND AND  PARTICIPATE WITHOUT BEING  PHYSICALLY PRESENT IN THE ROOM  WHERE THIS FORM IS COMPETE AND  WORK OUT I THINK WE'RE HAVING  SOME DIFFICULTY SO  COMMISSIONER EMRICH COMES ON  HE WILL READ THIS  COMMISSIONERS PRESENT OUR  MYSELF MAYOR WHY COMMISSIONER  MCDOWELL COMMISSIONER STOKES  AND I DON'T SEE COMMISSIONER  LANGDON IS THAT CORRECT. OKAY.  I NEED TO REQUEST A MOTION TO  APPROVE THE USE OF CMT FOR A  HYBRID MEETING. LAUGHTER. SO  WE'RE GONNA WAIT WE WAIT TO DO  THAT, IT DOES THAT OK THANK  ALSO PRESENT OUR CITY MANAGER  FLETCHER. THAT THAT THE WE  HAVE ATTORNEY. THE OKAY I SEE  ALL RIGHT THANK YOU CITY  CLERK, FAUST POLICE CHIEF HE'S  ALL RIGHT AND FIRE CHIEF.  OKAY, THANK YOU I WANT TO  >> DO YOU WANT THAT'S WHY  COULD LEAD THE FLAT.  >> I AND THE REPUBLIC FOR  WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION  UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH  LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR THANK  YOU ALL. VERY WELL HAHA.  >> ALL RIGHT SO I WILL WEST A  MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.  THAT WAS THAT MOTION WAS MADE  BY VICE MAYOR STOKES'S  SECONDED BY. COMMISSIONER  MCDOWELL WE WILL HAVE A VOICE.  >> A VOTE ON THAT.  >> COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL, YES.  AND MAYOR ALEX WHITE YES. THAT  FOR US. I TALKING OKAY. SO  JUST WAY TOO WE HAVE ANY  PUBLIC COMMENT. ALL RIGHT SO  WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO ITEM 3  GENERAL BUSINESS 24 DASH 0, 5,  FOR CITY MANAGER TAKE IT AWAY.  >> THANK YOU, MADAM OF ITEM OF  DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION  REGARDING THE USE OF SURTAX  FUNDS TO IT. FOR FOR THE  FUNDING OF THE POLICE.  DEPARTMENT HEADQUARTERS SO TO  INTRODUCE THE PROJECT AS OF  NOW THE CITY OF NORTH PORT  STAFF POLICE DEPARTMENT HAPP  OPPOSED SEVERAL DIFFERENT  OPTIONS TO FUND A 122 MILLION  POLICE HEADQUARTERS. WE'VE  ALSO IDENTIFIED CLOSE ROUGHLY  500 MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE  PROJECT 100 MILLION DOLLARS IS  COMPRISED OF 15 MILLION  DOLLARS SURTAX ALSO 35. DOLLAR  AMOUNT THAT WOULD PAID THROUGH  PROPERTY TAX MILLAGE INCREASE  AS WELL AS SEARCHING FOR  GRANTS AS WELL AS SALE OF CITY  PROPERTY AND ALSO THE TRANSFER  CELL OF THE CURRENT POLICE  STATION 2 CITY STAFF WILL ALSO  BE SPACE. BASED ON THAT MODEL  WE WE CAME CLOSE TO A  100 MILLION DOLLARS THERE  STILL NOT A 122 MILLION  DOLLARS A FIGHT LESS ARE  PROPOSING TO INCREASE THE  AMOUNT OF INCREASE OF  BORROWING TO THE CITIZENS. WE  ARE CURRENTLY BRINGING BACK  INFORMATION TO THE. COMMISSION  BASED ON THE CONVERSATION THAT  WE HAD YESTERDAY TO IDENTIFY  THAT FUNDING SOURCE YESTERDAY  WE ALSO WITH THROUGH OUR  SURTAX LIST IN AN EFFORT TO  SEE IF THERE WERE ANY OTHER  PROJECTS THAT COULD BE  POSSIBLY USED FOR THE POLICE  HEADQUARTERS NEED SOME OF THEM  THAT WERE DISCUSSED WERE THE  CANAL IN CREEK MASTERPLAN THE  SECOND 3RD SPLASH UP AND SELL  OUTDOOR AMPHITHEATER TO THIS  COURT PICKLEBALL COMPLEX  ADDITIONAL OUTDOOR BASKETBALL  COURTS. RIVER ROAD, REGIONAL  PARK SPORTS COMPLEX  OBSERVATION DECK AT THE MYAKKA  HACHI CREEK PARK OR MINERAL  SPRINGS MASTER PLAN THAT  HAITIAN CITY HALL IN  DEVELOPMENTAL CENTER. LAYING  THE CONNECTION WITH AFFORDABLE  HOUSING MOBILE COMMAND  REPLACEMENT AND THE TROPICAIRE  BOULEVARD PEDESTRIAN AND  BICYCLE WAY SHARED USE PATH.  THERE WERE NO DECISIONS OF  FINALITY MADE BY THE  COMMISSION ON YESTERDAY THESE  PROJECTS WERE ALL IDENTIFIED  EITHER BY COMMISSION OR STAFF  AS ONES THAT COULD POSSIBLY BE  USED FUNDING FOR THE  HEADQUARTERS KNOWING THAT IF  THEY WERE USED THEY WOULD NOT  BE ELIMINATED, BUT THEY WOULD  P DEFERRED TO A LATER POINT IN  TIME. ONE OF THE CONVERSATION  TODAY BORN OUT AS WE HAVE  WORKED WITH THE CHAMBER HER  FOR THE CHAMBER ON DIFFERENT  ITEMS. THIS ONE JUST AS  IMPORTANT LAST WHAT I CAN  RECALL IS THE FINAL ITEM WE'VE  WORKED WITH THE CHAMBER OR HER  FROM FROM THE CHAMBER  REGARDING THE ULDC CHANGES AND  WE KNOW AND RECOGNIZE THAT THE  CHAMBER IS A STALL PARTNER OF  THE CITY. I DON'T THINK WE  COULD. AS SUCCESSFUL WITH OUR  BUSINESS COMMUNITY WITHOUT THE  CHAMBER OUT THINK WE WANT TO  TRY TO DO THAT WITHOUT THE  CHAMBER. SO WHEN WE HEARD  EARLY ON THERE WAS CONCERN  CHAMBER MEMBERS REGARDING THE  PROJECT ITSELF AND HOW WE WERE  FINDING IT I THOUGHT IT WAS  WISE FOR THE BOARD OF THE  CHAMBER TO MEET WITH THE BOARD  OF THE COMMISSION. SO THAT ONE  COULD EACH OTHER AS WE TRY TO  SOLVE FOR A PROBLEM THAT IS  UPON US. THE PROBLEM ITSELF IS  NOT NEW PROBLEM IT HAS BEEN.  WAYS BY CHEAP HARRISON FOR THE  YEARS HE'S BEEN HERE. IF YOU  ALL EVOLVED FROM BEING  20 MILLION DOLLARS OF.  EXPANSION OR RENOVATION OF ITS  CURRENT LOCATION 40 MILLION  DOLLARS OF EXPANSION OR  RENOVATION OF HIS CURRENT  LOCATION TO THE CONSULTANT'S  REPORT THAT WE GOT LAST SUMMER  WHICH SAID A 100 MILLION  DOLLAR FACILITY WAS AND THAT  AHLERS THAT WAS NEEDED AS WE  DISCUSSED WAS PUT INTO OUR  BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR HASN'T  FUNDED PROJECT. THAT PROJECT  SIZE OF A 100 MILLION DOLLARS  IS VERY ATYPICAL FOR YOU TO BE  ON A LIST OF SURTAX FROM THE  VERY BEGINNING. HERE'S OVER  THE 15 YEARS THAT YOU  SCHEDULED TO COLLECT IT IS  JUST NORTH OF 315 MILLION  DOLLARS. THIS PROJECT WITH YOU  KNOW NEARLY A 3RD OF A 15 YEAR  OF COMMITMENT. THERE ARE ALSO  OPTIONS OF CONSIDERATION OF  WHETHER YOU CAN CAPITAL LEASE  IT AND IT THROUGH SURTAX. ONE  OF THOSE PATHWAYS YOU IT'S  GOING TO COST ANYWHERE FROM  62 MILLION DOLLARS DEPENDING  ON THE MODEL IN THE AMOUNT OF  BORROWING THAT IS INCURRED  THAT WOULD STILL BE A SHOES SO  THE SURTAX GET THAT ROUTE WERE  CHOSEN. SO HAVING SAID ALL  THAT WE'RE HERE TODAY TO HEAR  FROM EVERYONE TO MAKE SURE  THAT VOICES ARE CONSIDERED AS  A COMMISSION AND BEFORE THE  COMMISSION MAKES A FINAL  DECISION ON HOW WHAT AND HOW  MUCH TO USE OF SIRTEX OKAY.  >> AND BEFORE WE GO FURTHER  COMMISSIONER LANGDON HAS  JOINED TONIGHT THANK YOU  FINDING WAY THAT'S FINE. OKAY  THANK YOU FOR THAT SUMMERY  CITY MANAGER AND THAT BRINGS  US TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY SO  NOTE THAT YOU WANT TO STARTED  OFF. YES, CHAIR PRESIDENT IF  SHE WAS JUST.  >> SO PHILLIPS YOU CAN THIS  KEEP MOVING ON. THIS ALL CAME  ABOUT ONE OF OUR BOARD  MEETINGS AND WE APPRECIATE  HAVING A REPRESENTATIVE FROM  THE CITY AT ABORTIONS TO GIVE  US INPUT OF WHAT'S GOING ON  THE CITY AND HERE ARE AND PUT  BACK TO THE CITY. THAT'S I  BELIEVE WHEN WE FIRST LEARNED  FUNDS FROM SURTAX FOR WAS A  POTENTIAL OPTION TO USE TO  FUND THE POLICE EVERYBODY ON  THE BOARD WILL MAKE A  STATEMENT STATING THEY SUPPORT  THE POLICE I THINK IT'S  OBVIOUS TO ALL SHOP WITH A COP  EVERYTHING WE DO WITH THE  POLICE DEPARTMENT LEVEL. BUT  WE ALSO UNDERSTOOD. I GET  CREDIT ROUNDS. 2013. PRICE  BOULEVARD. HAS BEEN A THORN  IN NORTH PORT SIDE FOR QUITE A  WHILE AND IF YOU REMEMBER  WE'VE BEEN JUST THAT ISSUE  EVER SINCE THROUGH MULTIPLE  PEOPLE, MULTIPLE STAFF,  MULTIPLE COMMISSIONERS LEADERS  OF THE CITY TRYING TO RESOLVE  THIS ISSUE.  ♪ CONCERNED ALWAYS WE'RE HAPPY  THAT THE PHASE ONE WAS THAT  TAKE CARE OF US SUMPTER ALL  THE WAY TO PASS TOLEDO TO BUY  THE SCHOOLS. WE WERE JUST  CONCERNED ABOUT LIMITED ARE  MOVING. POSTPONING OR DELAYING  BUT EVER PHASE 2 OF 3. PRICE  BOULEVARD OF BECAUSE WE JUST  FELT THAT THIS WAS A ISSUE.  AND I THINK IT WAS QUITE  OBVIOUS HOW MUCH OF ISSUE WAS  WITH HURRICANE IAN CAME IN DO  WHAT IT DID. TO THAT ROAD 41  BECAME A PARKING LOT. A WALL  OF INTERSTATE SO OF THE BOARD  REALLY BECAUSE WE DO SHARE  WILL HELP TO CONFER WITH JUST  5 FOR SURE WORST. WE'RE  SUPPORTING KNOWING THAT THE  POLICE FROM THE NEW  HEADQUARTERS. THERE'S NO  QUESTION OF THAT. THERE'S ALSO  NO QUESTION THAT SEE ALL THESE  OPEN. OUR DEPARTMENT NEWS  THEIR CONCERN IS PROJECTS  WERE. PRESENTED TO SARASOTA  COUNTY. FOR A SURTAX FOR  APPROVED. ROGERS WERE THOSE  PROJECTS WILL THEM 42. VOTERS.  TO VOTE FOR A SURTAX FOR. WE  UNDERSTAND. THAT IS LEGAL TO  MOVE DOLLARS. FOR CERTAIN TAX  MONEY. WE UNDERSTAND IT'S BEEN  MULTIPLE TIMES AROUND. ON  MOBILE BAY. STILL IT'S USUALLY  TOWARD MORNING NEAR THE END OF  FUNDING CYCLES. WHEN OTHER MAY  BECOME AVAILABLE OR OTHER  PROJECTS COMPLETED OUR FUNDING  BECAME AVAILABLE. NOT BEFORE  THE STARTS TO MOVE DOLLARS. SO  WE WERE JUST WONDERING ASKING  CITY BEFORE WE MADE OFFICIAL  STANCE BECAUSE YOU'RE ALWAYS  LOOKING FOR THE CHAMBER TO  MAKE A STANCE. HOW IS THIS  GOING TO FUND IT BE FINANCED.  SO THAT WE CAN LOOK AT THE  CENTER AND WHETHER WE SUPPORT  OUR RECOMMEND OTHER  ALTERNATIVE SO. SHARON DID I  COVERED PRETTY WELL YOU WANT  TO IN AND AGREE IT WAS NEVER  THE PROJECT THAT WAS TO ISSUE  IS THAT IT WAS KIND OF  SURPRISED TO LEARN THAT.  >> IT WAS A SURPRISE TO US TO  LEARN THAT IT WAS GOING COME  FROM SURTAX. I APPRECIATE THE  CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD WHEN  YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE  LEASE TO PURCHASE. AND WE WERE  I WOULD I FIRST WAS WONDERING  YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING TODAY  AND THIS AN ECONOMIC  DEVELOPMENT COMMISSIONER  STOKES ABOUT GENERAL  DEVELOPMENT HAMSTRING THE CITY  IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO  QUALIFY FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING  FROM. SECURING ADDITIONAL  FUNDING AND DON'T KNOW  ANYTHING ABOUT THAT SO IF YOU  COULD ELABORATE ON THAT THAT  WOULD BE HELPFUL TO YOU KNOW  OUR CITY ISSUE UNLIKE. ALL  MUNICIPALITIES IN THE STATE  AND THE COUNTY. EACH OF THEM  HAVE THE ABILITY TO BORROW  MONEY.  WITHOUT ASKING FOR THE  CITIZENS PERMISSION. GENERAL  OBLIGATION  >> ALWAYS REQUIRE REFERENDUMS  BUT REVENUE BONDS, WHICH IS  HOW MOST MUNICIPALITIES AND  COUNTIES THEIR CAPITAL  PROJECTS. THEY SIMPLY. OFFICE  STAFF PUBLISHED BORROWING  LEVELS ALL THE COUNTY FOR  INSTANCE CAN BALL 28 MILLION  DOLLARS PER PROJECT AND IT'S  JUST THAT BY THE CPR I BELIEVE  IT IS ANNUAL BASIS. SO THEY  HAVE THE CAPABILITY FOR  WHETHER IT BE. UTILITY  PROJECTS ROAD INFRASTRUCTURE  PROJECTS OR POLICE FIRE  BUILDING STAY CAN UTILIZE  THOSE THAT FUNDING FOR US. WE  HAVE TO OUT FOR A REFERENDUM  ON THE WAR PRESENCE SET WE  HAVE TO ASK CITIZENS TO BORROW  ANY MONEY AT ALL WHICH  SEVERELY HAMSTRINGS THIS SO  WE'RE ABLE TO SIMPLY  GO AND ENCOURAGED THAT I MEAN  WE CAN FINANCIALLY AFFORD IT  TO GO OUT ALL DO OFFERING WE  WOULDN'T HAVE TO TOUCH SOME OF  THESE OTHER RESOURCES WE CAN  AND SO MUCH OF FORCE OR TAXES  LOADED. WITH PROJECTS THAT  COULD BE FUNDED OTHER WAYS.  AND SO YOU'VE GOT A WHOLE LIST  WANTS AND NEEDS. COMPETING FOR  THOSE ARE TAX DOLLARS. SO YOU  KNOW IN A PERFECT WORLD, THE  SYSTEM'S WHAT'S HA OUR ELECTED  OFFICIALS TO LIVE OFF THE  ABILITY TO CALL FOR EMERGENCY  PURPOSES FOR. SAFETY RELATED  TYPE BUT WE CAN'T.  THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO  LIVE WITH AN WORKING THAT  BRINGS TO THE PROBLEMS WE HAVE  WE HAVE NEEDS A GROWING CITY  IN A VARIETY OF AREAS, NOT  JUST A POLICE HEADQUARTERS BUT  ALL THROUGHOUT OUR CITY.  UTILITY AREAS FOR STRUCTURES.  YOU NEED MONEY TO DO WE'RE  GOING WE HAVE REVENUE SOURCES.  HOW DO YOU GO BALL SO I HOPE  THAT YOU KNOW THE DILEMMA AND  AND THAT'S JUST ONE PIECE OF  MY WE LOOK AT YOU KNOW HOW DO  WE FUND THE FACILITY THAT. YOU  KNOW MAKING VERY WELL SHOULD  HAVE BEEN ALSO TEXAS TO BEGIN  WITH BUT IT AND SO WHAT THAT  IT WASN'T THE REALITY IS IT IS  A SIGNIFICANT NEED SAFETY IS  OUR HIGHEST PRIORITY IN THE  CITY IT'S A PILLAR THAT.  >> HAS TO TAKE PRIORITY OVER  OTHER PRIORITIES. THERE'S ONLY  2 BUCKETS. SHE  >> GENERAL FUND PROPERTY WHY  ARE THERE ONLY 2 AND I DON'T  KNOW I'M ASKING QUESTION WHY  ARE THERE NOT GRANTS THAT YOU  CAN GET FEDERALLY STATE EASILY  WE COULD PROCURE I THAT  ABSOLUTELY SOMETHING WE WILL  WORK THERE MORE THAN 2  BUCKETS. BUT HOME 20.  >> MILLION IT'S NOT THAT GET  MONEY COMPETING WITH EVERYBODY  ELSE. IT'S SLOW PROCESS. AND  IT NOT ENOUGH MONEY TO PAY FOR  THE SALE OF  EXCESS ASSETS. THERE ARE 1015  20 MILLION MAYBE. PROBABLY A  WHOLE LOT MORE IMPACT SHE'S  THE GENERAL FUND AS A MINIMAL  AMOUNT THINGS WE WEREN'T EVEN  CHARGING.  ♪ THE MAXIMUM WE COULD ON THE  IMPACTS SO I MAKE DOUBLE THEN  ♪ YOU'VE GOT. GENERAL PROPERTY  TAXES AND YOU'VE GOT THAT  REALLY CASE. I MEAN THERE MAY  BE A COUPLE OTHER LITTLE AREA  SLOW SOME MONEY OUT OF GET TOO  DEEP WELLS A PROPERTY TAX AND  AND SURTAX AND IF YOU LOOK AT  JUST 35 IN THE ORIGINAL  CONCEPTION OF. FUNDING  85 MILLION AT THIS. MAKING UP  THE REST THROUGH GRANTS AND  SALE OF ASSETS AND OTHER  THINGS. 5035 35 MILLION OFF  PROPERTY TAX. THAT EQUATES TO  ALMOST AN 8% INCREASE IN THE  MILITARY. I MEAN FOR THE  AVERAGE CITIZEN THAT SO-CALLED  NOW HE COULD REDUCE IT TO THE  RIDICULOUS WHAT IS IT ON A  DAILY BASIS AND IT SOUNDS LIKE  A PRETTY LOW NUMBER. BUT THE  REALITY IS. IT'S A BIG  INCREASE. ON THE OTHER SIDE  EQUATION YOU'VE GOT A WHOLE  HOST WHAT I WOULD CALL DON'T  WANT TO THE PRIORITIES FOR  EACH AND EVERY DEPARTMENT HAS  PUT FORTH THOSE PROJECTS AND  THEY'RE IMPORTANT TO ENDING TO  EACH OF THE PILLARS QUALITY OF  LIFE FOR INSTANCE, AND YOU  CAN'T SAY THAT ONE IMPORTANT  YOU CAN'T SAY THEY SHOULD JUST  BE HIM UNFUNDED ARTISTS  QUARTER SLOWING IN THE GARBAGE  BECAUSE THEY CAN'T THEIR PART  OF OUR CITIES. WE EVEN WANT  OVERTIME. SOMEWHERE THEY HAVE  TO WE PRIORITIZED IN ORDER TO  MAKE ROOM FOR THIS POLICE  FACILITY. DARREN GETS US TO  WHERE WE ARE TODAY WHICH IS  WITHOUT SURTAX CAN'T BUILD  THIS BUILDING.  >> SO MANY ARE TAKING ARE YOU  PLANNING TO TAKE FROM SURTAX.  THE CURRENT PROPOSAL IS  50 MILLION DOLLARS A MONTH.  TALK ABOUT WE HAVE A GREAT  TOOL. CLEAR IF THEY CAN'T GET  A GRANT FOR NEW PUBLIC. POLICE  HEADQUARTERS. IF THERE WAS  EVER AN ITEM TO KEEP IT GOING  FOR SHOULD BE THAT PROJECT WE  KNOW THAT OUR FRIENDS IN  SUPPORTERS TO APPROPRIATIONS  BUT LIKE WE SAID IT'S  UNDETERMINED THE MOUTH. SO  WHAT WE PROPOSE WAS INDEED THE  SCENARIO I BELIEVE CITY STAFF  HAS AN OBLIGATION TO TRY IN  THIS EQUATION IF YOU PICKED A  100 MILLION DOLLAR MODEL WE  WOULD IDENTIFY FUNDING OF 85  AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO  CLOSE THAT IF YOU PICK EDGE  AND MODEL THEN WE'RE GOING  IDENTIFY FUNDING OF A 100 FOR  THE CONSTRUCTION COST AND THEY  FEEL THAT WE NEED TO TO YOU  KNOW THE WAYS BUT I FEEL LIKE  THERE HAS TO BE SOME SORT OF  EVERYONE TIPPING INTO THE  SOLUTION NOT TAKING IT WILL  PUTTING IT ALL ON ONE  PARTICULAR YOU KNOW I THINK  SHOULD SO ONE POINT IN COUPLE  COMMISSION MEETINGS OVER  TALKING THERE WAS TOPIC OF.  >> GIVING THE CITY MANAGER THE  ABILITY TO. BORROW ON BEHALF  OF THE CITY FOR THE 20 MILLION  DOLLARS. NO IT WOULDN'T FOR US  TO BORROW THE QUESTION WE PUT  WAS A TWO-FOLD QUESTION THAT'S  WHAT'S CREATED IN ORDER TO  ALLOW FOR THE CITY ITSELF BUT  THAT THE CITY MANAGER OPEN TO  BORROW THE COMMISSION OF  COURSE HAS TO CONTROL THE BALL  RING THAT WE WOULD DO THAT  GOES TO THE VOTERS THE  QUESTION WAS D WHICH YOU  APPROVE US TO BORROW  35 MILLION DOLLARS THAT WILL  BE PAID TO THE MILLAGE  RATE INCREASE AND 15 MILLION  DOLLARS IN SURTAX TOWARDS THAT  BOTH OF FOR THE SAME PURPOSE  OF A NEW POLICE STATION GOT  BUT THAT WAS WHAT WE PROPOSED  BASEBALL CONVERSATION WITH THE  COMMISSION AT THE LAST MEETING  THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THAT  WHICH WAS MARCH 26. I BELIEVE  THERE WAS EVEN QUESTION ABOUT  DIRECTION BECAUSE. THERE WAS  NO COMMITMENT AT THAT TIME  THAT ONE 35 MILLION WHAT THE  RIGHT NUMBER WE WANT TO BORROW  OR THE 50 MILLION SURTAX  WASN'T COMPLETE EITHER PENDING  NOW WITH THE CONVERSATION IT  WAS YESTERDAY BUT THIS  CONVERSATION TODAY AS SHOWING  JUST IT MAY BE FOR CLARITY FOR  THOSE MAY NOT REALLY.  >> IF ULTIMATELY WE IS LET'S  PUT THAT NUMBER 85 MILLION  DOLLARS IN TOTAL. THE PROJECT  COST YOU FIGURE. YOU KNOW  CAN'T JUST SIMPLY. PAY FOR  THIS. OUT OF SIRTE ACTION OUT  MILLAGE RATE OVER A PERIOD OF  YEARS WE'VE GOT THE BALL AT  ALL WE'VE GOT TO HAVE IT  BECAUSE IT'S 1218 MONTH  PROJECT TO BUILD THAT BUILDING  AND GET  IT COMPLETED AND THEN THAT ON  OR DEBT INSTRUMENT. WHAT THE  PAID PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST  OVER A PERIOD 30 PLUS YEARS. I  WOULD'VE VARIOUS FUNDING  BUCKETS AND THAT'S SORT OF THE  APPROACH THAT TAKE.  >> WELL GUESS A FALLEN  QUESTION THAT WOULD BE. WITH  THE SALE OF SOME OF THE ASSETS  ALLIANCE. ARE ANY OF THOSE  CLAIMS. YOUR MARK FOR FUTURE  PROJECTS OR THEY JUST STUFF  THE CITY SPECIFICALLY.  >> SO WHAT WE'RE DOING WE DID  WE MENTION THIS ROW FRIDAY  LAST WEEK. THE PROJECTS THAT  WE PERMIT PRESENTED TO THE  COMMISSION WERE JUST POINTS  THAT WERE LIKE IN ORDER  AVAILABILITY AND COST AND SOME  OF THEM DID HAVE A INTENDED  CAUSE QUESTIONS OR NEEDS THAT  WERE NOT DISCUSSED THAT THERE  IS A A AEADING WHICH IS WHY I  SAID THE CABBIE OUT STAFF TO  GO BACK AND DO SO DUE  DILIGENCE TO MAKE SURE THE ONE  THAT EVEN BE OFFERED. BALLOT.  SO WE'VE DONE THAT FOR THE  MOST PART WE HAVE SOME  RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE'RE  WORKING ON BRING IT BACK TO  THE COMMISSION BUT WE NEED TO  PUT IT IN A WAY WHERE THEY  COULD SORT OF SEE THE PROJECT  BUT THE VISUAL. GET THE  ORIGINAL THOUGHT WHY DID WE  GET THIS POP IN THE FIRST  PLACE AND THEN WHAT IF  ANYTHING STAFF HAD PLANNED  WITH THIS SO THAT THEY CAN SAY  OKAY KIND LIKE THEY DID  YESTERDAY WELL DO WE REALLY WE  STILL WANT TO DO THAT AND IT  WE HAVE IT WAS GOING TO DO  THAT THERE. SO THAT'S GOING TO  COME BACK TO THEM SOME POINT  TIME, BUT IT'S NOT THERE'S NOT  AS YOU CAN IMAGINE A LOT OF  THE THAT FIT IN THE CATEGORY  OF SIGNIFICANT. SALES. BUT  AGAIN EVERYTHING'S ON THE  TABLE. EVERYTHING ON THE  TABLE. UNDERSTAND  >> JUST TO TO SHARE WITH  EVERYBODY WE CANNOT GO OUT TO  BID FOR CONSTRUCTION.  >> UNTIL WE HAVE ALL OF THE  MONEY AVAILABLE AND FULLY FUND  IT. SO IT'S NOT LIKE HEY WE  WANT TO BUILD THIS NEW  BUILDING AND WILL WORRY ABOUT  FUNDING AS THE TIME COMES WE  HAVE TO HAVE ALL THAT MONEY  UPFRONT READY AND AVAILABLE  BEFORE WE CAN GO OUT ON THE  STREETS AND GET A POSSIBLE  BIT. SO THAT IS A HUGE PLAYER  IN THIS WHOLE CONVERSATION AND  I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE  EVERYBODY WAS  >> THAT'S A GOOD POINT THAT  AND ALSO WANT TO PUT IN  PERSPECTIVE ORIGINALLY ABOUT  THE GRANTS BECAUSE I KNOW I'VE  HEARD THAT A LOT LIKE GRANT  MONEY IS JUST GROWING ON TREES  SOMEHOW. BUT THE SRQ FUNDS  THAT RATE WAS 201 MILLION  CORRECT AND THAT WAS FOR THE  ENTIRE COUNTY THAT THAT MONEY  WAS MADE AVAILABLE SO WE'RE  TALKING BUILDING THAT'S A  100 MILLION THE REALITY OF  GETTING A GRANT EVEN COME  CLOSE TO THAT. IT'S NOT VERY  REALISTIC MAYBE FOR HIM  FURNITURE OR SOMETHING BUT FOR  THE ACTUAL BUILDING  COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL WE HAVE  TO HAVE ALL THOSE BUCKETS  LINED UP AND READY TO GO TO  PAY FOR THIS BEFORE WE CAN  EVEN. START LOOKING FOR SOME  WANT TO BUILD IT. EXPECT THAT  USEFUL LIFE BUILDING. WHAT IS  THAT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE  A.  >> END DATE FOR THE USEFUL  LIFE OF IT IT WAS A BUILDING  IN THE OCCUPIED WITH THE  OCCUPY 2. DOZENS DOZENS  CONTINUALLY FOR MORE ON DATE.  SO SO I'M WONDERING. YOU KNOW  IT'S 15 YEARS.  >> 15 YEARS IS THAT WE  FUNCTION LIKE IT WOULD BE  TODAY OR IT'S GOING TO BE WELL  WE NEED REALLY MORE BECAUSE  THIS ISN'T WORKING ANYMORE.  >> SO THE 2 MODELS THAT WE  DISCUSSED 100 MEAN ALL THE  MODEL DESIGNED TO BUILD UNTIL  THE 25TH. IS THE ONE  22 MILLION ON MODELS GO ABOUT  WITH THE CAPACITY TO TAKE UP  TO 2065. SO YOUR QUESTION THE  ANSWER HOW LONG DO WE THINK  THOSE BUILDINGS WILL BE USEFUL  TO OUT GROW. WOULD BE THOSE  DATES BUT AT THOSE DATES I'M  NOT SAYING WE'RE NOT SAYING  THAT WE'RE GOING CLOSE THAT  DOWN SOMETHING DIFFERENT IT  WILL JUST THE STATION THAT  THEY'RE NOW STATEMENT  OVERGROWTH NEXT STATION FOR  QUITE SOME TIME. SO TO SAY  THAT THE DAY THAT IT BECOMES  FULL IS THE DAY THAT DIFFERENT  DOESN'T QUITE GO  TO WORK BECAUSE WE'VE MADE  THIS WITHOUT SORT OF DOING  ANYTHING DIFFERENT AND NOW AS  THAT BUILDING THESE WERE  SPACED THEY ARE PROCURING  MODULAR YEARS THAT'S GOING TO  GO OUT IN THE BACK OF THEM AND  THAT WAS SCHEDULED TO BE DONE  THIS YEAR. AND IS IT WILL BE  DONE THIS YEAR IF NOTHING  CHANGES. ALL RIGHT.  >> OKAY, YEAH, JUST A COUPLE  THINGS I MIGHT ADD ALSO ST  LIKE THE COMMISSION'S GET A  LOLOT ASSISTANCE AGAIN A LOT OF  RESPONSE HAVE BEEN GETETTING A  LOT OF CALLS E-MAILS AND  OPLE PERSON ASKING ABOUT THE  SITUATION. COUPLE THINGS TH  AND VICE MAYOR, I KNOW YOU  STAYAY THAT WE'V'VE HEARD AND I  KNOW IS BROUGHT UP AND YES,  HE'S BEATING ABOUT WHY WAS  THIS WASN'T THE PROJECT WITH  COURSE A TAX I KNOW YOU STATEDE  IT WASN'T BUT SO WHAT WELL.  LOT T OF THIS IS DON'T HAVE THE  LUXU IF THEY'RE DOING  BUSINESS OF PLAYING IN THTHE  FUTURE TO SAY. I MEAN F FUNDING  SO WHAT I GOT NO JOB TO GO TO  IF THEY'RE CONCERNED A ABOUT  PLAYING WHY WASN'T THIS UP TO  SUCH IN NEED. SO LONG THAI  WAS NOT PLANNED FOR ONE OF THE  SURTAX FUNDING IMPLEMENTED ON  THAT THE OTHER PERSON KNOW  PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED HAVE  ISSUES WITH STATING AND I KNO YOU STATED BEFORE OURUR  GOVERNMENTS COULD NOT FUNCTION  WITHOUT THAT DOLLARS. BUT IT  FEELS MISLEADING STATE THAT  YOU'RE PUSHING PHASE 2 OR 3 IF   YOU START TAX BY SURTAX 5 IS  NOT GUARANTEED. WE DON'T KNOW  THE FUTURE W WE DON'T KNOW THE  FUTURE OF WE DON'T KNOW THE  FUTURE OF POLICING WE DON'T  KNOWOW THE FUTURE OF PEOPLE HAV  A FEW OF US ARE TAXED. PEOPLE  STED WE GET WHO OPPOSE. IF  THEY SEE US MOVING DOLLARS  THIS ONE WAS MAKE THEM TRUST  SIRTEX PROJECTS THAT WE SUBMIT  THEY WILL MOVED AROUND SO.  THE A LOT OF CONCERNS OUT  THERE ABOUT COUNTING FUNDING  NOT GUARANTEED. AND THEN THE  PLANNING OF SUCH ISSUE FOR A  WHILE WHY IS THIS SUCH P PURGE  OF NEED NOW ALL.  >> I I'LL TAKE THAT TH.  >> I MEAN FIRST AND FOROREMOST  YOU NEED FOR THIS POLICE SAY  COURSES IN THERE FOR QUITE  SOME WAS THE CIP PROJECT THAT  WAS SITTING ON THE NO DECISION  NO COMMISSION AT ARESSED HOW  IT WAS GOING TO BE FUNDED OR  WAS GOING TO BE HANDLED.  HURRICANE CAME. CREATED EVEN A  GREATER CRISIS BECAUSE RF  SIGNIFICANTLY DAMAGED. BROUGHT  THIS ISSUE MORE TO THE  FOREFRONT.  THE REALITY IS THAT. I JUST  WILL SAY IT BECAUSE IT REALLY  IS THE ELEPHANT IN THE WORLD.  SURTAX FOR THIS COTY AS  THIS. THE BOARD CERTAIAINLY  SAFETY FOR. SIR TAXES LIKE  PLASTIC. FOR THIS COUNTY.  SHOULD TAX. THIS COUNTY WOULD  NOT HAVE MORE WITH ANY  APPELLATE EASE H HAVE THE  FUNDING BILL TO ANY OF ITS  CAPITAL PROJECTS. IT WOULD BE  FORCED TO FIND ALTERNRNATIVE  MESSAGE OR RAI EVERYBODY'S  PROPERTY TAS AND EVERY OTHER  MEANS OF TAXING IT COULD ALL  TO MAKE UP THE BILLIONS THAT  WOULD BE REQUIRED TO FUND  THESE CAPITAL PROJECTS. SO  ABSOSOLUTELY SURTAX 5 NOT EXIST  I'D BE WILLING BET MY LIFE ON  IT, OKAY AND I BELIEVE ANYBODY  WHO'S BEING REALISTIC. WHAT  SAY THE SAME AND WITH THAT IN  MIND. . ONE ASKEKED TO APPRECIA  SHOULD TAX. A WAY IN MY  OPINION AND I HOPE EVERYBODY  SITTING THE FILM RUST WAY TO  PAY FOR SAFETY BECAUSE. UPN  NEW POLICE HEADQUARTERS  GREATER SAFETY IN R CITY WHO  BENEFITS NOT JUST THE PROPERTY  OWNERS PUT THE WINTERS, THE  TOURISTS, THE GUESTS, PEOPLE WHO SHOP FROM AROUND THE  COUNTY. EVERYBODY WHO'S GOT A  STAKE IN OUR COUNTY, COLOR A  LITTLE B BIT IT. FROM SAFETY AN  THEY ALL CAME TO THAT SHOU  TAX FUND. WHAT BETTER WAY TO  PAY FOR PUBLIC SAFETY THEN  WITH ALL STAKEHOLDERS PAYING  THEIR FAIR SHARE. INCREASING  PROPERTY TAXES. SQUARELY ON  THE BACKS. FOR PROPERTY OWNERS  IN THE CITY OF PORT.T. HOW MANY  OF THE CHAMBEREMBERS. WITHIN  THE CITY OF PORT. HOW MANY OF  THEM ON PROPERTY IN THE CITY  OF NORTH PORT OR DID THEY  RELEASE UP TO THEY SAFER C C CY  MAKE STILL BUSINESS SAFER.R. IT  ALSO MAKES TO CUSTOMER SAFETY.  SHOULD TAX. REALLY CREATES THE  BESTST OPPORTUNITY TO SPREAD  THAT COST.  IF IF EVERYTHING WE COULD  POSSIBLY DO TO PRAY FOR  ELIMINATING NEED TO CHARGE ALL  PROPERTY OWNERS AND MOST CITY  INCREASE TAXES AND PUSH IT OFF  MITIGATED TO EVERYTHING.  >> ALLOWS OUR CITY TO GROW UP  IN THAT.MORE RESIDENTIAL AND  COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT  AND QUARTER BASIS TO BEAR THAT  BURDEN DOWN THE ROAD. SO. HAVE  TO SAY ANY OTHER WAY I  APPRECIATE THAT THE CHBER.  HAS CAN SHOW FOR SURE THAT'S  BECAUSE AFTER YOUR HOPES FOR  SHOULD TAX REFERENDUM. BUT.  LET'BE REAL WERE ALL SEEN  TEAM IN TERMS WANTING DO  WHAT'S BEST. LET'S CALL. LET'S  LET'S CALL IWHAT IT NOBODY,  NOBODY VOTED FOR A LAUNDRY  LIST PROJECTS IN EVERY  MUNICIPALITY THROUGHOUT THIS  COUNTY. VOTED FOR SHOULD TAX  THAT WAS GOING FUND.  CATEGORIES OF PROJECTS  WHATEVER THEY MAY A POLICE  BUILDING WAS ON THE SHORT  ACTUALLY WISH 15 OTHER ITEMS.  PRESENTLY ON THE LIST WERE NOT  ON THAT LIST WHAT ANYBODY IF  NOT VOTED. FOR SURE TAX 4 FOR  COCOURSE THEY WOULD HAVE VOTED  FOR IT. SO IT'IT'S SPLITTING  HEIRS TO SAY WELL THIS PROJECTC  WASN'T ON IT AND SHE. CITY  OF NORTH PORT WANTS TO  REARRANGE PRIORITIES ON  PROJECTS. WE'RE PREEMPTED.  >> BUT THE STATE FROM DOING A  MILLION THINGS WE SHOULD BE  HAMSTRUNG FROM BEING ABLE TO  MAKE STRATEGIC DECISIONS AS TO  WHAT PRIORITIES OF BEST IT'S  PAINSTAKING TO DECIDE THAT  CERTAIN WANTS AND NEEDS HAVE  TO TAKE SECOND FIDDLE TO A  POLICE HEADQUARTERS BUT WE  NEED TO DO THAT AND AND WH  YOU REALLY COME DOWN TOT  SINCE WE ARE FRIENDS AND YOU  KNOW I DEARLY LOVE TO CHAMBER.  I WILL ASK THIS QUESTION TAKE.  PRPRICE WIDENING TOOL FROM SOME  TIP THE SCAL   WHAT BUSINESSES ARMING TO  CUT YOU OFF, BUT WE SHOULD  PROBABLY GET T IN THE TO  CHRISTINE ROBINSON WOULD LIKE  TO. WELL I JUST LIKE TO FINISHS  MY SURE FROM SUMPTER ESCAPE  THAT PETE APPROVED TO ATTEND  TOE A CMT SINCE HE'S BEEN  SITTING THERE FOR A HOHOT SECON  NOT APPROVED. THANK OKAY WE'LL  SEE ON OKAY COMOMMISSIONER  ELRICH WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ  YOUR STATEMENT. IF I COULD  FIND OKAY HAHA. IF OVER HAHA.  >> YOU'RE ON VIDEO P. I GOT  IT.  >> AS AUTHORIZED CITY  COMMISSION. NUMBER 21 DASH I'M  ATTENDING. A HYBRID  COMMUNICATIONS MEDIA  TECHNOLOGY I A AM EXPERIENCING  AND MEDICAL CONDITION  INCLUDING MAY DISILITIES. 3  FROM ATTENDING PERSON N AT THIS  TIME, THANK YOU.  >> OK YOU KNOW I CAN REQUEST A  MOTION TO APPROVE THE USE OF  CMT FOR HYBRID, OU KNOW. ALL  RIGHT, I HAVE A MOTION MADE B COMMISSIONER LANGDON TO  APPROVE THE USE OF CMT FOR A  HYBRID MEETING SECONDED BY  VICE MAYOR STOKES WILL DO  VOICE. VOTE. MAYOR ELLIS WHITE  YES.  >> COMMISSIONER LANGDON YES,  VICE MAYAYOR OKES, YES,  COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL, YES.  >> SEWING UP  >> AS THTHE VOTE I VOTE. OTHER  DAY Y ARE OKAY, SO PASSES 5 TO  0. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER I MY  STATEMENAND THEN.  >> SOMEBODY ELSE CAN SPEAK TO  BE PERFECTLY HONEST. WE'VE  GOT. LET'S LET'S TARGET ONE  SPECIFIC PIECE OF THE SURTAX  WHICH IS THE LARGEST THAT  WE'RE LOOKING TO FUND  REPRIORITIZE CALL IT WHAT YOU  WANT. TOO FROM SUMPTER TO THIS  TO CHAMBER MEMBERS WITH ALL  DUE RESPECT. HOW DOES THAT. AS  I SAY TO FOR ALL AND FUNDING  YOU NAME IT WHATEVER YOU WANT  TO CALL OF PRICE AFFECT THE  CHAMBER SINCE THERARE NO  BUSINESSES WHATSOEVER ON THAT  CARD OR.  >> I MEAN I DON'T SEE HOW IT  IMPACTS THTHE CHAMBER OR THE  CHAMBER MEMBERS. AND AS TO  QUITE FRANKLY OF THEHE SURTAX  PROJOJECTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING O  FUNDING REPRIOIORITIZE IN NOT  ONE OF THEM AS I SEE IT  IMPACTS THE CHAMBER OR MEMBERS  EXCEPT PHIHILOSOPHICALLY IN THA  THE CHAMBER SUPPORT IT, THE  SODA TAX REFERENDUM, WHICH  AGAIN I SAY WASN'T IN APPROVAL  OF EACH AND EVERY PROJECT ON  THAT LIST SINCE EVERY  MUNICICIPALITY FULL FREEDOM TO  SWAP OUT AS WELL JUST LIKE  RERESPOND THAT FIRST OF  >> I HOPE I'M ALIVE LONG  ENOUGH FOR SURTAX 5 SO THERE.  TO ANSWER YOUR Q QUESTION YOU  JUST ASKED. THE FLOW OF  TRAFFIC EFFECTS BUSINESS  EVERYWHERE. AGAIN PEOPLE BEGIN  HURRICANE IAN. THERE'S A LACK  OF EAST-WEST CORRIDORS IN THE E  REPORT AND A LOT OF BUSINESS  RELIES ON THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC  TO ONE PLACE TO ANOTHER THIS  BECAUSE BOB IS ON THERE  DOESN'T MEAN IT DOESN'T AFFECT  IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE  PARKING LOT MANY TIMES OF 41  EFFECTS BUSISS THERE. THE  OTHER PART WE HEAR A LOT  ABOUT. FALLING ON THBACK OF  RESIDENTS. THIS IS A TYPE 2.  DOUBLED BACK TO LIVE HERE. AND  THEN THEY HAVE THIS A TAX AND  THAT SO THEY UNDERSTAND THE  MILEAGE AND STAND EFFECT THEY  HAHAVE ON THAT SO THAT THEY'RE  NOT FORGET ALL THAT. I JUST  WANT MAKSURE THAT IT ALSO  QUESTION WAS. IS THIS WAS I  WAS A BALL FM IS THE ACTUAL  DOLLAR AMOUNT 120 MILLION. IS  THAT WHAT WAS PRESENT IS THAT  THE ONLY PROJECT PRESENTED TO  THIS COMMISSION OTHER  ALTERNATE OF OF WHAT THEY  COULD DO THAT THEY COULD  CONSIDER OR  THERE JUST  PROJECT OF THE ONE 22, I KNOW  YOU SAID A 100 MILLION THAT  ARE POINT TTO BUT I WAS SO.  >> DESIGR SOLTIS ARCHITECT A  JUSTST PLAY THE FIRST OF ALL OF  ONE 22. IT WAS SCALED FROM ONE  22 TO 100 NOW THE DIFFERENCE  IN THE 2 SHELL SPACE WHICH IS  THE SPSPACE LEFT FOR FUTURE  BUILD COVERED PARKING WILL AND  MAYBE A $9,000 IN THE OVERALL  SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE BUILDLDIN  SO THEY WERE THAT MINOR ENOUGH  TWEAKSHAT THE POLICE CAN  STILL GET WHAT THEY NEEDED IN  ORDER ADDRESS THE. OVER  OVERGROWTH OF THEIR CURRENT  LOCATION, BUTUT STILL WITHIN UP  ON THAT FOOTPRINT DELAYING THE  PURCHASE TO MAXIMIZE IT AND  THEN YOU COULD ACTUALLY PUT THOSE THINGS BACK THAT SOME  POINT IF YOU SO DESIRED, BUT  IT WAS ALWAYA SCALING OF  THAT SAME MODEL IF YOU SCALE  IT DOWN TOO FAR PAST WERE  BELOW THE 10000 MILLION. NOW YO  SORT OF VALUE IN HERE JUST SO  OUT OF THE 2 IN 2 OF THE  PROJECTS AND SHOULD LOOKING AT  MORE OF A SUBSTATITION MODEL AS  OPPOSED TO A CENTRARALIZED  MODEL. HE WAS SAY THEY WILL  LETS 50 OR 60 MILLION DOLLAR.  STATIONED THERE AND THIS SO  STATION SOMEWHERE ELSE AND  THEN YOU SORT OF LOSE YOUR  YOUR VALUES THE ECONOMIES OF  SCALE THAT YOUAVE A  CENTRALIZED EVERYTHING WE  STARTED THE CENTER LINE AND  YOU GOT UBLE THE COST YOU  KNOW MINISISTRATION OR  MAINTENANCE AND EVERYTHING AND  OPPOSED TO LEAVING IT WAS SO  THAT'S N NOT THE MOST EFFICIENT  MODEL. BUT THOSE WERE SOME OF  THE OTHER CONSIDERATIONS OF  WHAT YOU AS OPPOSED TO ING  TO THE TOP ONE IT. THE  QUESTION FIRST. THE CITY THE  CITY COMMISSION N IN FOR HOLDIN  THIS MEETING IT'S REALLY FOR  COMMUNICATION PURPOSES.  >> I S THIS 2 SEPARATE  ISSUES. YOU HAVE THE ISSUOF  HOW YOU'RE GOING TO PAY FOR  THTHE POLICE STATION. EQUALLY  AND JUST AS IMPORTANT IS HOW  WE GOT HERE AND THE HOW WE GOT  HERE. WHEN IT SKIPPED OVER IT  LEADS TO A QUESTION OF HOW IS  WHAT WRE GOING TO DO IS THAT  GOING TO BE THE RIGHT THING AT  THIS POINT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT  ADDRESSING HOW WE GOT HERE. SO  THAT'S HOW WE GOT HERE OF IT  NOT GETTING ON THE WESTIRST  A COUPLE OF THEY'RE ABSOLUTELY  WE'RE PROJECT LIST, NOT JUST  CATEGORIES ATTACH 42 COUNTY  MMISSION AND ATTACHED AS  CATCH MEANS TOHE COUNTY  ORDINANCE THAT WAS PASSED  PLACEMENT ON THE BALLOT. THOSE  THAT LIST WAS UD BY THE  BUSINESS COMMUNITY. TO PROMOTE  SO AND THOSE WERE PUBLICLY  VETTED LISISTS THAT WERE PUT  TOGETHER BY REPRESENTATIVES  FROM EACH OF THE  MUNICIPALITIES OF THE SCHOOL  BOARD AND AND THE COUNTY THAT  WERE PUT TOGETHER PUBLIC  MEETINGS AND PUBLICICLY BEDDED  WITH INPUT FROM THE ST  THROWN TOGETHER AND PUT OUT  THERE THEY WERE ACTUALLY  PUBLICLY THAT ITEMS THAT THAT  THAT WE WENT THROUGH A PROCESS  FOR SO THERE WERE PEOPLE WHO  ARE INVESTED TIME WAS INVESTED  THAT PEOPLE ARE INVESTED IN  THE PROJECT SO IOULD  DISAGREE WITH YOU AS SOMEBODY  WHO WAS AN ACTIVE PARTICIPANT  IN THAT CAMPAIGN THAT PEOPLE  ACTUALLY DID USE THAT TO VOTE  FOR THINGS I WOULULD DISAGREE  YOU AND IT WAS PROMOTED BASED  ON SOME OF THOSE SOME OF THOHOS  ACTUAL PROJECTS. I WOULD SAY  THAT THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY  WAS A 100% SUPPORTIVE OF THE  GOVERNMENT'S FOR  INFRASTRUCTURE. I BELIEVE THE  CHAMBER HAD 10 10,000 IT. THE  COLLECTOR OF LEAVE THE  BUSINESS COMMUNITY Y FROM NORTH  COUNTY TO SOUTH COUNTY RACE  $363,000 FOR 2 PASSER TAX. AND  IT WAS ALL OF THOSE  ORGANIZATIONS SIGNED OFF BABASE  UPON THOSE LISTS IT WAS REALLYL  IMPORTANT THAT IT'S WAS W WERE PUTTING OUR INTEGRITY ON  THE LINE AND PROMOTING AND AND  AND PAYING FOR T THAT  ELECTION. SO GETTING TO HIS  POINT. SOSO WHAT SO WHAT THAT  WAS AND IS A PRETTY BIG DEAL  TO THOSE OF US WHO QUARTER  TIME AND ENERGY INTO IT AND  THISWAS A TWO-YEAR EFFORT BY  THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY. IT WAS  A LONGONG HAUL AND LET ME  TELL YOU THAT NORTH PORT   CHAMBEBER WITH PROBABLY THE  LOUDEST CHEERLEADER THAT OUT  OF ALL THE BUSINESS  ORGANIZATIONS IN THE COUNTY  AND THEY'RE IN THEIR SO THE  NORTH PORT CHAMBER W WAS A  LEADER IN IN THAT THAT  RESPT. I WILL TELL YOU THE  LAST ARE TAXED THERE WE 8  SIR TAXES IN THE STATE OF  FLORIDA. 4 PASSED OR FAILED  THE FOR THAT FAILED 2 OR  CONSERVATIVE COUNTIES AND 2  WERE LOCAL COUNTIES. SAINT  JOHNCOUNTY FAILED WALTON  COUNTY FAILED ORANGE COUNTY  FAIL HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY  FAILED. THOSE SO ABSOLUTELY  COULD HAVE HAPPENED HERE. I  THINK GOING FORWARD THE MOST  PORTANT THING IS TO BE  COMPLETELY HONEST WITH WHAT  YOU'RE DOING WHEN YOU'RE  MOVING THESE PROJECTS OUT OF  THE SURTAX WEST. HAVE TO O SAY  THERE ARE UNFUNDED YOU CAN'T  SAY THEY'RE ON THE LIST FOR  THE FUTURE THAT MIGHT NOT  HAPPENEN. AND QUITE HONESTLY I  DID A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST,  A SURTAX 5 WHICH DOESN'T  EXIST. THERE IS NO LIST. SO I  THINK BEINING TRANSPARENT BASED  UPON HOW THIS GOT HERE IS  REALLY IMPORTANT. IT CAN'T BE  GLOSSEOVER AND I THINK THE  LANGUAGE IS REALLY AND CAMPY  WHATEVER LANGUAGE WEWE WANT TO  USITS GOT TO BE REALLY  PRECISE BEBECAUSE IT WE GOT TO  THIS POINT YOU ALL ARE NOW  PROPOSING TO GO OUT T TO ANOTHE  REFERENDUM. AFTER CHANGING THE  LIST FROM THIS REFERENDUM. I  THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT  THAT WE REGAIN SOME OF T THAT  RELATIONSHIP TO MAKE SURE THAT  THAT HAPPENS IN THE LANANGUAGE  IS REALLY GOING TO MATTER AND  THEN LAST THING I WANT TO SAY  IS YOU KNOW THERERE IS BEEN A  REFERENDUM THAT HAS FAILED IN  IN IN SARASOTA COUNTY AND THAT  WAS BACKN 2000. THE SCHOOL  BOARD REFERERENDUM FAILED A LOT  OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THAT WHO  BUT THE SCHOOL BOARD  REFERENDUM FAILED IN 2000  FAILED AS A FINANCIAL PROBLEMS  AND A LACK OF TRANSPARENCY AND  A LACK OF TRUST THAT  SUPERINTENDENT AND THAT SCHOOL  BOARD.  AND THE ONLY T THING THAT RESCU  THAT WHERE THE BUSINESS  COMMUNITY IN THE FOUNDATION'S  CAYMAN BRAC CONSULTANT SAID  INSIDE OUT REVIEW OF HOW IT  CAME TO BE BEFORE WE GOT TO  THAT P POINT AND THEN THEY  REGAIN AED IT OUT AND REGAIN  THE TRUST OF THE COMMUNINITY  AGAIN. I APPRECIATE THAT YOUR  CONFIDENCE AND THAT T SURTAX 5  MAY PASS IN 15 YEARS. BUT WE  HAVE PLENTY OF EXAMPLES WHERE  IT MAY NOT BUT I WOULD SAY TO YOU I THINK IN ORDER TO MAKE  SURE THAT WE CAN ALL BON THE  SAME PAGE. I THINK MAKING SURE  WE'RE RESPECTING THE FACT TH  HOW WE GOT HERE IS REALLY  IMPORTRTANT TO THE CHAMBER AND  TO THE BUSINESS COMOMMUNITY. IT  IS REALLY IMPORTANT AND.  >> REALLY I WILL SPEAK PROCEED  BECAUSE BECAUSE I AGREE WITH A  LOT OF Y SAY, AND. WITHOUT  THE CHAMBER. AND THE EFFORTS  OFOF THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY. NO  JUST THIS BUT A WHOLE LOTF  THINGS DON'T IN OUR CITY NOT  GREAT CITY AS IT FOR US OUR  COUNTY IS GRT. I YOU KNOW  WITH WITH OUT ALL THE  ASSISTANCE OF CORPUS COMMUNITY  ALL THAT SAID WHEN IT COMES S T  TRANSPARENCY, YOU KNOW IT'S.  SOMETIMES. THINGS CNGE.  >> AND AND AND AGAIN CITIES  ARE DYNAMIC. A PALLET  PRIORITIES CHANGE IFT. I I'D  LIKE TO THINK THAT THIS CITY  HAS PRIDED ITSELF AND TRYING  TO BE TREMELY TRANSPENT  SOMETIMES WORDSMITH THING CAN  GET YOU IN KIND OF FOOTBALL  SORT YOU SAW IN THE IN ONE OF  CHAMBER MEETINGS WHERE I SAY.  YOU CAN CALL PRIORITY STATION  OR YOU CAN CALL IT IS. IT'S  UNFUNDED YOUR **** FUNDED FOR  THE TIME BEING AND HOPEFULLY  YOU FIND A WAY TO FUND IT OR  FIND A WORKAROUND SO I  APPRECIATETE THAT ALSO AND AND   THINK THOUGH THAT WERE THIS A  ASK NOT SO RIGEOUS. YOU  COULDN'T FLOODING WON'T ALL  OUR PILLARS. ARE ARE EQUAL AND  MAKE SURE ARE NECESSARY HAVE  STABLE COMMUNITY. PUBLIC  SAFETY IS SO IMPORTANT BECAUSES  ALL THE OTHER PILLARS HEAT OR  FOR THAT AND SO I THINK THIS  PROPERTY THIS PROJECT IS SUCH  A RIGHTEOUS THAT WALL YES IN N  THE EARLY STAGES, WE HAVEN'T  EVEN STARTED TO GENENERATE  SURTAX FOR REVENUES IN THE  DOOR AND HERE WE MAKING A  MAJOR. YOU KNOW CHANGE TO THAT  LIST. YEAH, YOU COULD LOOK AT  IT LIKE MAN, IT'S JUST SO BAIT  AND SWITCH ASSISTANT. BUT IT'S  SUCH A RIGHTEOUS ASK. I TO IT.  HOW DID WORD AND AND THAT'S  WHAT WE FACE AS LEADERS IN THE  CITY AND IN IN EFFORTS OF  TRANSPARENCY AND  INCLUSIVESS. WE HERE TALKING  ABOUT IT. WE REFRAIN FROM  MAKING TSE DECISIONS. TILT  EVERERYBODY'S HEARD TWO-WEEK  TORN IT APART TURNED INSIDE  OUT UPSIDE DOWN EVERY WHICH  WATO TRY TO COME UP WITH  THAT. BEST BALANCE TO MAKE  THIS PROJECT HAPPEN THE E SAME  TIMEME NOT LOSE SIGHT OF ALL TH  PRIORITIES THAT YOU'LL  SUPPORTED IN THE SURF THAT'S  LIST AND FIND A WAY SET UP TO  SANDY YESTERDAY.  >> SHE TOOOOK BECAUSE ONE THING  BECAUSE SO MUCH OFARKS AND  RECS YOU CAN CALL WHAT'S NOT  NEEDS. BUT ARE THEY REALLY  THEIR PRIORITIES FOR THE  QUALITY OF LIFE OUR CI SO IF  WE'RE GOING TO. ON FUN,  SOMETHING TO USE THOSE THAT  WORDTHE WEEK. HOHOW DO WE GET  AROUND HOW DO WE FIND A  SOLUTION TO PROVI SOME OF  THOSE PRIORITIES AND OTHER WAY  SO. WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING  WE'RE TRYING EVERYTHING WE CAN  WE'RE TRNG TO BE AS  INCLUSIVE TRYING TO BE AS  RIGHTEOUS THIS IS NOT LIKE  LET'S JUST CREATE LIKE WHAT'S  LED 80 F FOOT YACHT FOR THE  COMMISSIONERS TO TO AL THIS IS  POLICE SAFETY STEPS.  >> I JUST WANTED THAT  >> THAT'S ONLY WHAT OTHER  PROJECTS BEING CONSIDERE FUNDING. I KNOW YOU HAVE PRICE  I THOUGHT THAT WAS THE WHAT  ELSE BEING WITHOUT LIST EVERY  RIGHT BUT HOW MUCH MONEY AT 7  2222. SO SO YOU'RE TALKING  ABOUT 72 MILLION OF US ARE  DECKS. SO YESTERDAY THERE W WAS  A MEETING WHERE THE THROUGH. >> THE ENTIRE TEXAS AND THEY  EITHER IDENTIFIED PROJECTS  THAT THEY THOUGHT BE DEFERRED  FOR PATIENTS ON PROJEC THEY  THOUGHT COULD DEFERRED THERE  WERE NO DECISIONREGARDING  THOSE PROJECT JUST TODAY IN  FRONT OF THIS CONVERSATION,  BUT T THEY DIDN'T WANT TO HEAR  FROM THIS GROUP AS THEY ARE  CONSIDERING THE CONVERSATION  HAD TOTAL IF I'M CORRECT WOULD  BE AROUND 70 TO 75 MILLION  DOLLARS OUT OFOF SURTAX MONEY I  EVERYTHING'S ALLIGHT. THANK  YOU.  >> MICHELLE THANK YOU. YES. I  ALSO WANTED TO MENTION. . THE  CITY GENERATE AND SUFFICNT  REVENUE TO ITS GENERAL FUND.  AND WHY IS THAT IT'S BECACAUSE   PERCENT OF OUR LAND USE IS  CURRRRENTLY ZONED COMMERCIAL OF  ALL TYPES INDUSTRIAL OFFICE. A  PERCENT EXPERTS IN THIS AREA  SAY THAT IF YOU WANT TO HAVE  HEALTHY BALANCED BUDGET. YOU  NEED 20 TO 30% OF YOUR LAND  USALL COMMERCIAL. SO THIS  CITY IS EXTREMELY DEFICIT  POSITION RELATIVE TO ITS  HAUNTING US TODAY, IT'S GOING  TO HAUNTS YEARS TO COME.  AGN, I'M NOT ONE FOR LOOKING  BACKWARDS OFFER OKAY, HERE'S  THE MASK IN FRONT OF US WHAT'S  OUR BEST PATH FORWARD AS A  CITY WITH ALL OF OUR PARTNERS  SO WE'RE TRYING TACKLE THAT. I  ALSO WANT TO MAKE COMMENT ON  IMPA FEES BECAUSE THAT MIGHT  NOT BE GENERAL KNOWLEDGE THAT  IT'S NOT LIKE WE COLLE  IMPACT FEES AND THERE AND A  BIG BUCKET. WELL WE VE  DISCRETION 2 DOLLS THAT ONEY  OUT IT'S BROKEN UP AND ITS  ALLOCATED TO SPECIFIC  ENRPRISE FUNDS AND  DEPARTMENTS AND THAT HASAS TO B  SPENT FOR THAT USE. SO WEAK SO  NOT ONLY HAVWE JUST RECENTLTLY  STARTED COLLECTING SUFFICIENT  IMPACT FEES BECAUSE GENERALLY  SPEAKING GROWTH SHOULD FUND  GROWTH. BBUT WE HAVEN'T BEEN  COLLECTING THOSE FEES LONG  ENOUGH TO BUILD  A WAR CHEST  IN THE AREAS WHERE WE NEED SO  PART OF THE CONVERSATION WILL  HAVE MOVING FORWARD AS WE  FIGURE OUT HOW DO WE FUND D THI  THING AND THERE ARE ALL KINDS  OF DIFFERENT WAYS BUT T THEY  ALREADY CAME UP IN THIS  MEETING DIFFERENT KINDS OF  BONDS VERY DIFFERENT. THAT  THEY ALL HAVE IMPLICATIONS  SOME ARE MORE COSTLY WHEN YOU  LOOK AT THE OVERALCOST OF  THE SO REQUIRES  MORE OF AN  IMPACT OF PROPERTY FEES. I  MEAN IT'S IT'S VERY  COMPLICATED. SO AS WE MOVE  FORWARD, WE NEED TO BALANCE A  NUMBER OF THINGS WE'RE ASKING  POLICE CHIEF EVALUATE CAN  LIVES WITH A 100 MILLION  DOLLAR MODODEL HE MIGHT HAVE TO  GIVE UP SOME. WE AGREED  YESTERDAY I BELIEVE AS A  COMMISSION THAT HOWEVER WE  PROCEED WE WANT TO DO A COUPLE  THINGS MINIMIZE ANY IMPACT TO  OUR TAX PAYERS AND MAKE SURE  THAT NO SARAH TAX FUNDED  PRPROJECTS THAT ARE TRULY  ESSENTIAL. GET DENDED OR AN  INFANT. HOWEWEVER WE WANT TO  TERM THAT. SO WE'RE WE'RE JUST  WE'R'RE NOT IN A GREAT POSITION  AND WE DON'T HAVE MANY OPTIONS  AND WERE CONSTRAINED AND A LOT  OF AREAS AND AND SO REALLY  WE'RE TRTRYING TO DO THE BEST W  CAN AND YOU GUYS HAVE SUCH  IMPORTANT PARTNERS TO US. I'M  HOPING YOU CAN COME ALONG ISIS  AS WE TRY TO BALANCE ALL OF  THOSE SOMETIMES COMPETING,  THANKS. IT AIN'T EASY. I JUST  WANTEDED TO ADD TO WHAT YOU'RE  SAYING ABOUT THE THE LIST IS  BEING PUBLICLY THAT IT AND  THAT THAT'S TRUE PEOPLE. ARE  AWARE OF WHAT'S ON BUT I THINK  MAYBE WHAT VICE MAYOR WAS  ALLUDIDING TO THAT'S NOT ON THE BALLOT THAT THEY'RE NOT  LOOKING ATAT EVERY SINGLE  PROJECT AND I SERVED ON THE  OVOVERSIGHT. COMMITTEE HERE  IN NORTH PORT FOR 2 YEARS AND.  THERE WAS NEVER ANYBODY FROM  THE PUBLIC THERE OTHER THAN  THOSE THE COMMITTEE, HOWEVER  THAT'S ONE OF THE BRAVES  STADIUM. ON BOARD THAT WAS NOT  ON ANY SURTAX PREVIOUS AND NO  MONEYS HAD TO BE SFFLED FOR  THAT SO I THINK THAT'S WE DO  HAVE THAT ABILITY TO SHUFFLE  THINGS AROUND AS THINGS NEEDS  COME OFF JUST LIKE WHEN THAT  STADIUM CAME UP. EY FOUND,  BUT IT WAS A 7 MILLION DOLLARS  CAN SHIP IT TO THAT TO S START  407 MILLION. THANK YOU.  >> OKAY. AND THAT DIDN'T EXIST  IN THE EARLY SURTAX FOLDERS  THAT  WE HAVE GOTTEN AND THERE  WAS OBVIOUSLY THAT MONEY WAS  PULLED FROM OTHER. EACH. YES,  THANK YEAH, OH, COMMISSIONER  MCDOWELL SURE TASTE IT WAS  TOWARDS THEND OF LIFE SURTAX  THAT WAS VOTED ON BY THE  VOTERS.  >> A AND IT WAS USED FOR BECAUS  WE HAD. PRPROJECTS THAT WE KNEW  WE WEREN'T GOING TO BE FORWARD  WE WE HAD.   >> ACCESS I SAY THAT MASSIVE AIR QUOTES. WHAT'S AVAILABLE  >> AND I ABSOLUTELY RESPECT  THE CHAMBER'S CONCERNS THEY  ARE MY CONCERT, I SAID IT  YESTERDAY'S MEETING. WE  HAVEN'T EVEN STARTED SURTAX  FAR FOR ME ANDND HERE WE ARE  REDESIGNING OUR PROJECT LIST  TO BE ABLE TO GET THE FOR  POLICE STATION AND IN THE OC  POLICE DO NOT LOSE SIGHT THAT  PART OF THESE JUGGLING OF  MONEYS IS ALSO TO BUILD  EMERGENCY OPERATION N CENTER.  SO. THIS WAS CONCERNING TO ME.  IT STILL IS CONCERNEDED IT HAS  NOT BEEN VOTED ON. AS AN  ELECTED OFFICIAL. RELY HEAVILY  ON OUTSIDE FOES THAT HAVE  COMPETING. POINTS OF INTEREST.  DIFFERENT VIEWPOINTS TO HELP  ME NAVIGATE WHAT IS THE BEST  PATH FORORWARD. SO WHILE I'M  HEARING THAT THERE'S CONCERN  THAT I EVEN SHARED WITH HAVING  SURTAX LIST SCRUTINIZED EVEN  FURTRTHER AND UNFUNDED OR DEFUN  IT. I WANT TO HEAR OTHER  OPTIONS THAT WE AS A CITY ME  AS ELECTED OFFICIAL MAY NOT BE  AWARE THAT WE CAN DO GRANT  MONEY. ALREADY BEEN SPOKEN  ABOUT. THERE'S GRANTS OUT  THERE THEY'RE FEW FAR BETWEEN N  AND THEY'RE NOT ENOUGH MONEY  AND IT'S A VERY LONG PROCESS  THAT PROBABLY HAS A LOT OF  STRINGS ATTACHED TIT THAT  THE CITY CANNOT ACCOMPLISH.  APPROPRIATIONS FROM THE  FEDERAL AND STATE LEVEL. LOOK  AT A ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE  COMPETING FOR THAT WE'VE  ALREADY WE PUT IN FOR AN  APPROPRIATIONS R IT. LICE  HEADQUARTERS AND FOR O C WE'RE  STILL WAITING TO FIND OUT IF  THAT MONEY'S AVAILABLE.  GOVERNOR HAS VETO POWER. YOU  KNOW AND AND WHO KNOWS WHAT  WHAT'S GOING WHAT THAT'S GOING   LOOK LIKE SO WE CAN HOW ON  THAT MONEY SIRTEX 5 ABSOLUTELY  DOES NOT EXIST. I DO COUNT ON  IT. THAT'S 15 YEARS AWAY AND  MY CRYSTAL BL DOESN'T TELL  ME THAT YES THE VOTERS ARE  GOING TO PROVE IT BECAUSE I  LIVED HERE 2000 THE SCHOOL  BOARD LOST THEIR FUNDING AND I  THAT CONSEQUENCE WE HAVE A  REREFERENDUM COMING UP THAT NOT  ONLY IS FOR OUR CITY. BUBUT IT  IS ALSO AGAIN FOR THE SCHOOL  BOARD. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT  THE APPETE VOTERS ARE GOING  TO BE. I REALLY AM RELYING ON.  THE CHCHAMBER AND THE CITIZENS  AND THE BUSINESSES TO HELP ME.  THE CITY COME UP WITH  ALTERNATIVE FUNDING OPTIONS  THAT MAY BAVAILABLE THAT WE  CAN USE. WE JUST MAY NOT BE WWE  ARE STAFF IS DONE SO TO TRY  IDENTIFY BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY  OTHER. LITTLE POCKETS OF MONEY  I AM MORTHAN WILLING TO HEHEAR  ON AND I'M SURE THE CITY  MANAR AND STAFF. OK SO. FOR  SEAN SECOND IT SEEMS LIKE LIKE  THAT I MIGHT STEAL WHAT'S  CHANGI OKAY HAHA.  >> WE'RE IN A GROWING PORT  SOME BIG-TIME GROWING PAINS  T EVERYBODY'S NEEDS AND YOUR  WANTS ARE GOING TO BE HOWEVER.  I BELIEVE THAT IF WE ACT IN  THE BEST INTEREST OF.  MAKING NORTH PORT EVEN MORE  ATTRACTIVE THAIT CURRENTLY  IS IT WILLLL DROP THE BUSINESS  WILL DRAW THE PRPRESIDENT'S  WHICH WILL ALLOW US TO MAKE UP  THAT GAP. SO IN END IT IN A  NUTSHELL. WE SORT OF GOT OF  THAT ON OURSRSELVES. WE SORT OF  HAVE TO BET ON OURSELVES. THE  FACT THAT WE CAN DO THESE  PROJECTS BUNCOMFORTABLE FOR  A LITTLE WHILE TIGHTEN OUR  BELTS. BUT MAKE IT HAPPEN  BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY.  THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WE CAN  COMPROMISE ON. YOU KNOW IN  ORDER TO HAVE THE GROWTH THAT  WE'RE TRYING TO EXPECT.  WE NEED THE PRESENCE OF THE  POLICE FORCE WE NEED THE  PRESENCE OF A STRORONG FIRE  DEPARTMENT AS WELL. BECAUSE IF  YOU DON'T HAVE THOSE THINGS  WHAT YEAH I'M NOT GOING  TO NORTH PORT WE'VE BEEN  EXCUSE EXPRESSION REDDIT  STEPPED FOR WAY WITH THAT  COMBS THE ALL RIGHT WE'VE GOT  TO GROW WHERE  CAN GET THE  MONEY FROM. IT IS WHAT TALK OF  CHANGE. WE TAKE THIS  CONVERSATION NEXT YEAR STILL  GOING THE SAME ISSUES WHAT WE  NEED TO DO. SO WHERE DO WE  WANT TO DO IT'T'S SORRY TO  MARINE CORPS THING WHICH MAKE  IT HAPPEN. HAVE TO BE PRETTY  ST DUNK. AND THIS IS ONONE OF  THE STATE DOESN'T HAVE TO BE  PRETTY GOING HAPPEN. SO I  THINK IF WE AS THE BUSINESS  COMMUNITY CAN GET THE  INSURANCE WHICH OUT LIST OF  CITY KAN TO THE BUSINESS S  COMMUNITY AND TO THE PUBLIC  SAYING THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE TO  UNFORTUNATELY, HOWEVER. BEING  A BEING OPEN TO RECEIVE THE  CRITICISM COMES BECAUSE I KNOW  OUR CITY DOE'T HAVE ANY  ISSUES CRITICIZING BUT ING  ACCOUNTABLE TO THE CHANGES  THAT WE'RE MAKING AND WHEN  IT'S TIME FOR R IT TO COME BACK  AGAIN. PUT THOSE THINGS BACK  ON THE TABLE FIRST VEVERSUS  CONTINUING IT KICK IT DOWN THE  CAPE THERE KICKING DOWN THE  ROAD. SO. WHERE DO WE END UP.  YOU JUST GOT TO RIDE IT OUT.  LET'S MAKE IT HAPPEN. LET'S DO  AT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF  OF COMMUNITY BEST INTEREST OF  OUR RESIDENTS. LET'S GO  FORWARD.  >> YOU MENTION THAT SEE IS  THAT PART OF THE 100 OR 122  MODEL THAT ABOVE AND BEYOND  THOSE  >> YES, IT DIFFERENT. IT'S  DIFFERENT LOCATION FFERENT  BUILDING, LOCATED RIGHT HERE  AT CITY CENTER AND I THINK  THAT COSTS LESS THAN POINT  11.2 MILLION. AND THAT START  TAX. THANK FOR ALL OF US ARE  CHECKS FOR JUST FOR CLAY.  >> WHEN YOU MATURE WITH THE  COMMISSION'S TALK OUT CURB  SO THEY OUT THAT RIGHT NOW YOU  COULD JUST DO THAT.  >> YES, SO WHEN WHEN YOU.  GRADUATED FROM LOOKINGNG AT THE  PATIENT EXPANSION OF THE  CURRENT MODEL FROM 20 MILLION  OF $22 EFFORT. IT WAS EXPLORED  COULD YOU ACTUTUALLY RENOVATE  THAT CURRENT BUIUILDING WHICH  CAME IN AT APPROXIMATELY THE  SAME CAUSE I THINK MAY BE A  LITTLE BIT MORE THAN BUILDING  A NEW BUILDINGNG. SO THAT'S HOW  WE G TO THE POINT OF  BUILDING A NEW BUILDING. THE  CURRENT BUILDING THAT WE EVEN  AFTER WE FINISHED REPAIRS  HURRICANE IAN THAT ARE STILL  CURRENT. WE WOULD LIKE FOR  THAT BUILDING BE PURPOSEFUL  MORSI USE OUR DEVELOPMENT  SERVICES DEPARTMENT HAS  OUTGROWN THEIR U USE ON THE  FIRST FLOOR. THEY HAVE TO LIVE  THE 2 TRAINS FOR SORT OF.  PURCHAHASE IT THAT BUILDING AT   GOOD AMOUNUNT OF MONEY THAT WE  CAN TRANSFER FOR THE USE O THPROJECT THEY'RE STILL  WORKING OUT THE DETAILS OF  WHAT PERCENT OF THE BUILDING  WOULD HAVE TO BE USED BASED ON  THE FUNDING SOURCE THAT THEY   COULD USE BECAUSE THERE IS A  CONNECTION TO MAKG SURE THAT  THE MONEY THAT IS FOFOR THE  PEOPLE WHO WERE USING IT. SO  MAKING SURE THAT ALL THAT'S  PROPERLY. IN VISION WE COULD  DO THAT AND THEN BE ABLE TO  KEEP THAT BUILDING UNDER CITY   CONTROL TO USE FOR TEXAS FROM  THIS BUILDING AND THIS SHOULD  A VERY SPECIFIC WHERE THAT  MONEY WOULD COME FROROM IT'S TH  BUILDING FUND JUST TO BUILD  CORRECT. SO THIS THE  INTERPRETATION THAT THAT WOULD  JUST BE ANOTHER TAX. PAYING  FOR THAT IS THE BUILDING FUND  WHICH ARE SEPARATE FEES THAT  ARE CHCHARGED. AND ONE OF THE  REASONS Y IT CAME IN THAT  THE.  >> TO A MODIFIED THE EXISTSTING  BUILDING WAS BECAUSE YOU HAVE  TO HOUSE THE PEOPLE OR WORKING  IN THERE SEWHERE NOW YOU  HAVE TO PAY FOR THOSE. THOSE  STRUCTURES, WHATEVER THEY  WOULD BRING TO DO THAT AND  BECAUSE I QUESTION THAT SAME  THING WOULD THAT AS MUCH IF  NOT MORE MONEYND THAT'S WHY.  >> AND MAYOR IF I MIGHT ADD I  THINK EXPANDING WITH NOT ONLY OUTGROWN THE BUBUILDING OF GROW  THE FOOTPRINT OF THE LAND. SO  THE OPTION WAS GOING UP WHICH  WOULD HAVE REQUIRED THAT WE  BUILDING UP TO CODE THAT'S  WHAT MADE THE RENOVATIONS SO  VERY EXPENSIVE.  >> COMMISSIONER AVERAGE DID  YOU HAVE ANYTHTHING TO WHAT YOU  WANTED TO OUR ASK.  >> YEAH THIS TIME I SAW THE  LIST TO BOTH SITES I THINK THE  CONVERSATIONS GOING VERY WELL.  SO FAR. BUT WE DO HAVE TO DO  WHAT'S RIGHT FOR THE CITIZENS  AS WELL AND PEOPLE ARE SAFE DO  U SAY. SO LET'S GET THERE  SOMEHOW BETWEEN BOTHTH GROUPS  TODAY.  >> ALL RIGHT THANK YOU. I DO I  HAVE ANYBODY I DON'T SEE E ANY  >> REAL QUICK ST. POINT  INFORMATIOI BELIEVE IT  BROKEN TODAY'S NEWS THAT I  BELIEVE CHRISTINE YOU  MENTIONED HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY Y  WAS ONE THAT. I BELIEVE TODAY  THEY ANNOUNCED THAT THEY'RE  LOOKING AT RAISING THEIR  MILEAGE ONE BILL.  >> GENERAL A LITTLE UNDER A  BILLION DOLLARS TAXES. ONE WAY  OR THE OTHER YOU'RE GOING TO  FIND THE MONEY. IT SOMEBODY  EVERYBODY GET ALL THE  INFORMATION BELIEVE I KNOW THE  POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS HIS OWN  DISTRICT THAT THOSE DOLLARS  CAN NOT BE. TOUCH RIGHT FOR  THIS DISTRICT POLICE DOESN'T  OUTSIDE COLLEGE TRITE E YOU.  PLUS SCOTT SHARE SOME MONEY  >> AND SEAN I I APPRECIATE YOU  SPEAKING OUT HOW IMPORTANT  IS OUT A SAFE COMMUNITY I'VE  MENTIONED THIS BECAUSE I CAME  TO PORT 1991 OF FIRST THINGSGS  ON MY CHECKLIST WAS I WANTED  TO LIVE IN A MUNICIPALITY THAT  ITS OWN POLICE FORCE AND FIRE  DEPARTMENT. . I DID KNOW NOT NO  KNOW DISRESPECT BUT DOES NOT  WANT TO LIVE IN N ANY  UNINCORPORATED AREAS.  >> I WILL SAY FROM FROM THE  PERSPECTIVE REAL ESTATE, IT IS  ONE OF THE NUMBER ONE QUESTION  WE GET SAFETY A COMPROMISE OUR  SAFETY IS NOT OPTION. SO WE  HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT  LOOKS LIKE MOVING FORWARD IN  THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT  BECAUSE WE WANT GROW IF WE  COMPROSE OUR AND THAT'S ALL  THERE IS TO COMMISSIONER.  >> IF I MAY BE SO O BOLD.  >> MAYBE WE CAN ASK THE CI  MANAGER TO SEND THE LIST THTHAT  WE TENTATIVELY HAD TALKED  ABOUT YESTERDAY SOME OF THAT  WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT POPOSSIBLY  HAVE SEEN KIND OF THING. HAVE  FUNDING HAVE FUNDING. MAYBE  WHAT WE CAN DO IS HAVE CITY  MANAGER SAID THAT LIST TO THE  CHAMBER HAS A CHAMBER BOARD  OFFLINE WITHOUT YEAR AND LIST  AND KIND OF GIVE US SOME OF  YOUR FEEDBACK TO THAT LIST. I  THINK FROM MY OWN. WOULD BE  VERY HELPFUL IF GOT THAT  FEEDBACK FROM THE CHAMBER AND  POSSIBLY EVEN THE FOUNDATION  IN THE BUSINESS IS FROM NORTH  TO SOUTH COUNTY THAT HELPED  WITH OUR S SURTAX ON PASSING  THAT YOU HAD MENTIONED MISS  CHRISTINE AND HAVING T THAT FED  IT  ♪ ALI AND. TIME IS NOT ON  ♪ OUR CONSTRUCTION COSTS  CONTINUE TO GO OUT. SO YOU  KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF HOMEWORK WE STILL HAVE TO D BUT THE  LET BALLLLOT LANGUAGE HAS TO   AND BY AUGUST TO THE  SUPERVISOR OF F ELECTIONS SO CA  BE PUT ONTO THE BALLOT IN  NOVEMBERWE'RE STILL WORKING  OUT WITH THING WHICH LOOKS  LIKE BUT I REALLY WOULD  APPRECIATE YOUR FEEDBACK TO  HELP ME MAKE MY DECISION.  >> AND I HADTHAT DOWN WHAT  SPECIFIC SIRTEX X PROJECTS TO  FOR THE CHAMBER, SHE'S EARNED  ABOUT THAT'S WHAT I WROTE DOWN  HERE S SO THAT WOULD BE THAT  WOULD BE HELPFUL BE SOME OF  THEY WEREN'T EVEN FULLY FUNDED  THAT'S WHY PROJECTS, THEY  WOULDN'T'T HAPPEN ANYWAY. BUT  WILLHE 22 MILLION MENTIONED  THAT WAS FROM THE JUST GAVE  YEAH THETHER 50 MILLION IS  ST REALLY 2, AND THEN  ADDITIONAL REVENUES THAT WE'RE  PROJECTING SINCE WE STARTED  THE BEGINNING.  >>>> SOME SAID PROJECTED REVENU  I HEARD. ND THOSE 315 MILLION  DOLLARS WAS ORIGINAL  PROJECTION THAT POSITION NOW  IT LOOKS LIKE YOU GUYS MAKE  THE CASE TO 3.60 IS THAT  CORRECT. SO THOSE ARE NEW  DOLLARS YOU TALKED ABOUT THAT  THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CITY  WILLAY. WE HAVAVE JUST A  CALLED PROJECTIONS. AND THE  NEW MEE FROM 3.15 FOR THAT  TO VERY GOOD THAT HE DID  QUESTION TO THE WHAT YOU JUST  SAID COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL, SO  I UNDERSTAND THAT SOMETIMES  SURTAX PROJECTS FULLY FUNDED  PUT THEM FORWA, BUT THERE'S  AN INTENT TO USE OTHER  FUNDING, SOMETIMES IT'S  GENERAL FUND SOME TIME IMPACT  FEES.  >> OF IT WHEN WE GET THAT LIST  CAN OF PARTIALLY FUNDED IF WE  COULD ALSO UNDERSTAND WHAT  OTHER. WHAT OTHESOURCES WERE  INTENDED TO FUND THAT FOR  THOSE PROJECTS AS WELL SOME OF  THEM WILL EXEXTRA FUNDING BUT  SOME SOME OF THEM HAVE UP  PREPROGRAMMED INTEND TO USE  OTHERS THAT'S A FUNNY Y IT WOUL  BE HELPFUL FOR US TO KNOW WHAT  IS TRULY. PARTIALLY FUNDED BY  SURTAX AND WITH NO OTHER  FUNDING AVAILABLE TO IT AND  UNDERFUNDED. OR SOMETHING THAT   WOULD BE FULLY FUNDED WITH  SURTAX AND OTHER ITEMS AND  THTHAT WITH THAT INTENT MAKING  SENSNSE GET I UNDERSTAND WHAT  YOU'RE SAYING AND I DON'T WANT  TO SPEAK  FOR STAFF AS TO THOS PROJECTS PLEASE DON'T  MINDERSTAND.  >> THE FIRST 5 YEARS OF SURTAX  LIKE. ALMOST ALL OF IT IS  ALREADY OKEN FOR PRICE  BOULEVARD PHASE ONE FROM  SUMPTER TO TOLEDO BLADE.  THERE'S A FEW OTHER PROJECTS  THAT ARE A POCKETS FIRST 5  YOUR BUCKET GET STARTED. WE  ALL KNOW THE COST OF  CONSTRUCTION IS SO. KNOW RIGHT  NOW THAT I DON'T KNOW IF THEY  EVEN KNOW WHAT THOSE  OJECTIONS MAY LOOK LIKE FOR  A PROJECT FROM 10 YEARS 15  YEARS OUT SO SO IT MAY NOT BE  COMPLETE AND I IT CANNOT ISOLAT  BE ACCURATE. SO I JUST WANTED  TO PREFACE I'M SURE STAFF WILL  BE ABLE TO GET SOMETHING  TOGETHER BUT I DON'T WANT TO  SPEAK FOFOR THEM SO MAYBE WE  SHOULD DIRECTED TO THAT. ONE I  THINK IT'S IMPORTANT.  >> CALLING IT A LITTLE OFF  SEAN'S COMNTS IS IS FOR.  CHAMBER UNDERSTAND REALLY  EVERYONE WHOAY BE LISTENING  MORE WILL LISTEN AT SOME POINT  TO THIS STAT.  ♪ THE PROJECTS YOU KNOW OUR CALL  TO TAKE SECOND FIDDLE TO THIS  ♪ POLICE HEADQUARTERS. WILL LOT  A CITY. YOU CAN FOLLOW UP ON.  FINDING. OUT OF THE BOX  CREATIVE WAYS TO GET SOME OF  THESE PRIORITIES TOP DARYL  ORR. MYRIAD OF RESOURCES OUT  THERE THERE THERE WAS FUNDING  AVAILABLE FOR SOME OF THESE  PROJECTS. TO SURURTAX WITH  PARTNERSHIPS WITH US COUNTY  STATE WITH I MEAN THERE'S JUST  A WHOLE LOT OF WAYS Y CAN  SCAN THE CATS AND SO WOULDN'T  WANT ANYBODY FOR A MINUTE TO  THINK THAT.  ♪ ♪ HERE'S THE LIST OF PROJECTS  THAT WILL BE FUND THAT THEY'RE  JUST GOING TO GO PUT ON A  SHELF SOMEWHERE LIKE THERE  WILL BE PEOPLE WORKING NONSTOP  ON THESE THINGS HOW DO WE  STILL ACCOMPLISH THIS IS THERE  ANOTHER WAY TO DO IT HOW CAN  WE FIND A WAY BECAUSE.  >> YOU CAN CALL WHAT THEY ARE  PRIORITIES IIKE THAT BETTTTER  WANT SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING  THAT WELL YOU DON'T REALLY  HAVE TO HAVE BUT BUT A  PRIORITY IS SOMETHING THAT IS  A PRIORITY BECAUSE IT'S PART  OF THE KILLER. IT'S PART OF  WHAT TO QUALITY OF LIFE IN  MANY CASES AS THESE PROJECTS  ARE AND WE WILL WORK  TIRELESSLY TO FIND WAYS TO  ACCOMPLISH THESE FOR OUR  CITIZENS. YOU KNOW IN ADDITIOIO  TO GETTING THIS POLICE GUN  LIKE SHORTS S WE'LL FIND A WAY  TO GET  IT DONE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER  WILL FIND A WAWAY TO GET IT  DONE. THE BEST BALLOTS. WE CAN  COME UP WITH AND AND WEWE  APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS AND AND  THE PUSHBACK AND THE QUESTION  BECAUSE YOU TO HELP FORCE US  TO BE MORE OPEN MORE  TRANSPARENT MORE INCLUSIVE  BECAUSE WE ALL STAND TO GAIN  OR LOSE IF. WE DON'T DO THIS  THE BEST WE CAN SO HOPOPEFULLY  THAT GIVES YOU COUPLE OF SOME  LEVEL OF COMFORT THAT YOU KNOW  WE REALLY ARE TRYINING ALL  PULLING RIGHT DIRECTION ON  IS AND DO THE RIGHT  >> OKAY DOES ANYBODY HAVE  ANYTHING ELSE HEY WANTED TO  DO WANT MAKE I CAN MAKE A  MOTION LIKE TO GIVE CITY  MANAGER DIRECTION YES THAT  WE'VE GOT MAKE SURE THERE'S NO  OTHER DISCUSSION. YOU WANT TO  MAKE MOTION BEFORE PUBLIC  COMMENTER ASKED I HAVE TO  PUBLIC  >> WE HAVE PUBLIC.  >> IT'S SUCH GOT OFF NO PHONE  MAYBE BROTHER OKAY, THERE IS  GO AHEAD COMMISSIOIONER. MIGHT  NEED SHORE. THAT WAS MY CITY  FALL.  >> HAHA.  >> WHY DON'T SHUT MY CITY AND  ASK MAMASK THIS CAME A QUESTION  >> IT THIS KIND CHRISTINE WAS  ASKING FOR WHAT WOULD YOU CALL  IS IT LIKE TOTOTAL PROJECT  FUNDING.  >> SO WHAT LIST THAT'S BEING  CONSERED FROM YESTERDAY ARE  SPEAKING UP WANTED TO KNOW IF  THERE'S OTHER FUNDING ALREADY  ALLOCATED TO  SINCE WE'RE AT  LEAST 10 YEARS SAY IN MOST  CASES NOT THAT WILL RTAINLY  TAKE A LOOK AT AND MAKE SURE  WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING PARTY  ALLOCATED IN ADDITION TO THAT  SURTAX WORDING THAT MOTION.  OKAY WELL I DON'T MY BE IF  NEED TO PLEAS 2 MAKE A MOTN  TO DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER TO  PRPROVIDE TO THE CHAMBER.  ANGELES CHRISTINE'S  ORGANIZATION, THE  COMMISSIONERS TENTATIVE LIST  OF PROJECTS BEINING DEFUNDED OR  HALF FUNDED ALONG WITH OTHER  FUNDING ALLOCATIONS AVAILABLE  ANAND A COPY OF EACH PROJECTS  CIIF IT'S AVAILABLE.  >> ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION  ON THE TABLE BY COMMISSIONER  MCDOWELL CITY CLERK CAN YOU  READ THAT BACK FOR PROBABLY A  SPECIAL KIND OF SET AND OTHER  FUNDING ALLOCATIONS IF  AVAILABLE. AND A COPY OF THE  CIP CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS  PROJECT IF THAT ISN'T DIRECT  THE CITY MANAGER TO PROVIDE  THE CHAMBER AND. CHRISTINE'S S  ORGANIZATION HAS ARGUS CORRECEC  LEFT IT IT GEALL OF AND TO  CHRISTINE ROBINSON HAHA.   >> TENTATIVE LIST OF PROJECTS  BEING DEFUNDED OR HAHALF FUNDED  INCLUDING ALL FUNDING  ALLOLOCATIONS IF AVAILABLE AND   COPY OF THE CIP SHEETS  AVAILABLE.  >> AND IT WAS BASED ON THE  COMMISSION'S DISCUSSION  YESTERDAY WAS AT THE BEGINNING  AFTER CHRISTINE'S  ORGANIZATION.  >> SO TO DIRECT THE CITY  MANAGER RIDE TO THE CHAMBER  AND CHRISTINE ROBERTSON BASED  ON COMMISSIONERERS DISCUSSION  THE TENTATIVE ST OF PROJECTS  BEING DEFUNDED OR HAVE FUNDED  CLUDING OFF FUNDING  ALLOCATIONS OF AVAILABLE AND A  COPY OF THE CIP SHEETS IF  AVAILABLE. OKAY, SO THAT'S THE  MOTION.  >> A SECOND. IN A CASE VICE  MAYOR HOPEFUL SECOND THAT. ALL  RIGHT WE'LL DO A VOICE VOTE.  MAYOR ALEX LIKE YES, VICE  MAYOR. COMMISSIONER LLANGDON  YES COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER,  I'M RICH. YES SO THAT PASSES 5  TO 0 THANKS FOR THE MOTION  COMMISSIER I JUST I'M SURE  EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS AND CITY  MANAGER WILL PROBABLY BE  GETTING THAT TO VERY SOON.  >> BOTH WE UNDERSTAND IS THAT  A LOT OF PROJECTS ON HIS I  DON'T THINK IT'LL BE TOMORROW  OKAY ANYTHING ELSE. NOT A YES,  I JUST WANT TO THANK HAVE I I  REALLY THINK IT'S IMPORTANT  THAT GET TOGETHER LIKE THIS ON  A REGULAR BASIS.  >> AND I THINK I THINK I THINK  THAT THE CITY AND THAT I THK  WE CAN IMPROVE HOW WE  COMMUNICATE WITH OUR AND I  THINK THIS IS A REALLY GOOD  FIRST STEP TO THANK THANK  SAYING THAT WERE MY ALL RIGHT  I'M TO 20 AND I TO THANK YOU  GUYS,