>> OH MY GOSH.  ♪ >> K GOOD AFTERNOON TODAY  TUESDAY APRIL 23RD 2024 IT IS  01:00PM AND WE ARE IN THE CITY  CHAMBERS THAT I CALL THE CITY  COMMISSION SPECIAL. IT TO  ORDER. THIS IS A HYBRID  MEETING. THIS MEETING HAS BEEN  PROPERLY NOTICED THAT WILL BE  CONDUCTED AS A HYBRID MEETING  FIRING THE USE OF  COMMUNICATIONS MEDIA  TECHNOLOGY A PHYSICAL FORM OF  VOTING MEMBERS IS PRESENT IN  CITY COMMISSION CHAMBERS. A  HYBRID MEETING ALLOWS VOTING  MEMBERS TO ATTEND AND  PARTICIPATE WITHOUT BEING  PHYSICALLY PRESENT IN THE ROOM  WHERE THIS QUORUM IS CONVEYED.  SO WORLD ALL WE HAVE MYSELF  MAYOR WHITE VICE MAYOR.  COMMISSIONER LANGDON AND  COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL. AND  WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM  COMMISSIONER.  AS YOU KNOW ARE  HERE IT TOO.  SO WILL KEEP  GOING AND THEN HAVE COME RIGHT  OK, SO LET'S KEEP THIS FOR  NOW. ALSO PRESIDENT CITY  MANAGER FLETCHER CITY ATTORNEY  SLAYTON CITY CLERK POLICE TO  GARRISON AND I BELIEVE DEPUTY  FIRE CHIEF HURLEY NEED TO HAVE  RIGHT NOW OKAY, THANK YOU. I'M  GOING TO CALL ON POLICE CHIEF  GARRISON TO LEAD US IN  ♪ LAST UNITED STATES AMERICA  NATION  ♪ UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH  LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.  THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT SO  LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO  APPROVE THE AGENDA SO SECOND.  OKAY I'M GOING TO CALL THIS  ONE I HAVE A COMMISSIONER MADE  THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE  AGENDA SECONDED VICE MAYOR  STOKES. IF THERE'S NOTHING  ELSE HERE CAN DO IT. SHOULDER.  OK SO WE HAVE A 0, STILL  WAITING FOR COMMISSIONER AND  MUCH TO JOIN US WITH OUR  TECHNOLOGY. PUBLIC COMMENT. SO  WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT.  YES, WE AND WE'LL WORK.  >> I WOULD LOVE SEE A NEW  POLICE DEPARTMENT BUILDING ONE  THING THAT THEY CAN GROW INTO.  ROBIN SNYDER AFTERNOON I WANT  TO PUBLICLY EXPRESS OUR  FAMILIES FULL SUPPORT OF  THE NORTH PORT POLICE  DEPARTMENT AND THE NEW  BUILDING THAT IS NEEDED AS  A NORTH PORT BUSINESS OWNER 17  YEAR RESIDENT AND MOTHER OF 4  MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE DEEPLY  APPRECIATED THE SAFETY AND  PROTECTION THAT OUR POLICE  DEPARTMENT HAS PROVIDED FOR US  DAY AFTER DAY YEAR AFTER YEAR  WITH THE RAPID GROWTH OF OUR  CITY WE ASK THAT YOU MOVE  FORWARD AND APPROVED THE  BUILDING OF A NEW POLICE  DEPARTMENT FACILITIES IS  NEEDED NOW MORE THAN EVER  THANK YOU. EMILY. OUR LAWSON I  FULLY SUPPORT OUR NORTH PORT  POLICE WITH REGARDS TO  DEVELOPMENT OF THEIR NEW  BUILDINGS SO MUCH FOR THIS  TAKING PLACE IN PORT AND OUR  PLACE THIS BUILDING CURRENT  BUILDING IS A COMPLETE  DISASTER. OUR POLICE NEED THE  SUPPORT OF THIS NEW BUILDING  TO BE ABLE TO PERFORM THEIR  DUTIES AND THE BEST POSSIBLE  MANNER IF WE DON'T HAVE POLICE  TO SUPPORT ALL THE GROWTH  IN NORTH PORT IN THE CITY  OF NORTH PORT AND THEIR  CIVILIANS WILL SUFFER. HOW ARE  THE POLICE OPPOSED TO MAINTAIN  NEW PLACE WITHOUT ADEQUATE  FACILITIES AND REQUIREMENTS.  IT'S IMPORTANT TO ACT UPON  THIS NOW AND NOT LATER  PROACTIVE VERSUS REACTIVE IS  THE BEST WAY MOVING FORWARD  WITH THIS NEW BUILDING FOR OUR  POLICE DEPARTMENT TO SERVE AND  PROTECT NORTH PORT COMMUNITY.  CHRISTCHURCH YES, LET'S BUILD  A STATION. DANIEL HUGHES, WE  SUPPORT THE NORTH PORT POLICE  OFFICERS AND THEIR EXPANSION  EFFORTS BORN AND RAISED IN THE  AREA AND CURRENTLY A BUSINESS  OWNER PROVIDES HOUSING FOR  LOCAL RESIDENTS. I BELIEVE  THIS IS A MUCH NEEDED BUILDING  UPGRADE CAR PLEASE. THESE MEN  AND WOMEN ARE ONE OF THE MAIN  REASONS PEOPLE TO PORT SAFETY  IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD GET  SERIOUS AS WE EXPAND AS A CITY  IT'S AT.  >> KEEP CRIME VISIBILITY HIGH.  THIS WILL INCREASE THE  VISIBILITY OF THE PLACE NOT  ONLY ON THE STREETS BUT IN THE  EYES OF THE PEOPLE MOVING TO  THE CITY AND OUR VISITORS THIS  WITHOUT A PLACE TO GROW IN  TANDEM EXPECTED GROWTH PORT,  NOT ONLY DO OUR MEN AND WOMEN  IN BLUE NEED A NEW FACILITY  THEY ABSOLUTELY DESERVE.  >> I MEAN  >> FUNDING FOR THE MPCA  HEADQUARTERS AS CRITICAL  SHOULD BE PASSED THE SAFETY OF  OUR COMMUNITY DEPENDS ON THE  SAFETY AND GOOD FORCE IN ALL  AREAS OF THE DEPARTMENT FIND  MAN MEANT AND SUPPORT 100%.  ANY HUDSON. FULLY SUPPORT THE  FUNDING FOR AN APPROPRIATE  SIZE POLICE HEADQUARTERS  IN NORTH PORT WITHOUT PROPER  FUNDING, OUR LOCAL HEROES NOT  PROPERLY DO THEIR JOBS WITH  THAT A LIFE AS WE KNOW IT  TODAY THAT'S NOT PLAY  CATCH-UP. THE ONLY SOLUTION IS  TO ACTIVE IN THAT SPOT.  BRANDON JUST CHARM. PPE HAVE  MY FULL SUPPORT AND RESPECT.  LES GEILS. THEY'RE MEMBERS OF  THE CITY BOARD I'M WRITING TO  EXPRESS MY STRONG SUPPORT FOR  THE EXPANSION OF THE PORT  POLICE DEPARTMENT MY NAME IS  LEE GEILS AND I AM A AND THE  PRESIDENT OF THE NORTH PORT  CHAPTER OF BUSINESS NETWORK  INTERNATIONAL REPRESENTING  NEARLY 50 BUSINESSES IN OUR  COMMUNITY. A LONGTIME RESIDENT  OF FLORIDA BORN AND RAISED  TAMPA I PERSONALLY WITNESSED  THE CHALLENGES THAT COME WITH  RAPID GROWTH HAVING BEEN  RAISED IN TAMPA AND RELOCATING  TO PORT TAKE STATE PICKS TAPE  IS TRAFFICKING CRIME. NORTH  PORT HAS A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY  TO LEARN FROM THE EXPERIENCE  OF OTHER CITIES LIKE TAMPA AND  PROACTIVELY PLAN FOR FUTURE  GROWTH EXPANDING PLACE  DEPARTMENT WE CAN ENSURE THE  SAFETY AND SECURITY OF OUR  COMMUNITY BUSINESSES AND  FUTURE GENERATIONS HAS THE  SECOND FASTEST GROWING CITY IN  FLORIDA. IT IS ESSENTIAL THAT  WE INVEST IN THE NECESSARY  INFRASTRUCTURE, INCLUDING LAW  ENFORCEMENT FOR RESPONSIBLY. I  URGE YOU TO CONSIDER THE  LONG-TERM BENEFITS OF  INVESTING IN OUR POLICE  DEPARTMENT BY DOING SO WE CAN  LEAVE A LASTING LEGACY OF  SAFETY AND PROSPERITY FROM  PORT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR  ATTENTION TO THIS IMPORTANT  MATTER SINCERELY DIALS LEE  ENGINE H 2 A PORT CHAPTER  PRESIDENT BUSINESS NETWORK  INTERNATIONAL. CHRISTIAN YOUNG  AS SOMEONE WHO HAS LIVED IN  OVER 15 DIFFERENT CITIES ALONG  THE EAST COAST IN THE PAST 30  YEARS I CAN CONFIDENTLY SAY  THAT NORTH PORT IS THE STATE  THE CITY I'VE LIVED AFTER  LEARNING ABOUT THE CURRENT  STATE OF OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT  BUILDING. I'M EVEN MORE  IMPRESSED BY THE MPP DATE  WELL, NOT EVERY POLICE  DEPARTMENT IS PERFECT AND  DISPLAYS A STRONG PRESENCE IN  THE COMMUNITY AND IT'S OFF TO  HIGH CHARACTER INDIVIDUALS  INVESTING IN THE FUTURE SAFETY  OF NORTH PORT MAKES ALL THE  SENSE IN THE WORLD. AND THAT'S  WHY I SUPPORT THE PROPOSED NEW  POLICE DEPARTMENT PART. PEOPLE  MOVE HERE BECAUSE IT'S SAFE  AND BEAUTIFUL BUILDING WITH  BROKEN COMMUNITY AS YOU ALL  KNOW WITH THAT GROWTH WILL  COME IN AND WILL INCREASE IN  CRIME. THIS PRIME INEVITABLY  HOWEVER CAN BE MITIGATED BY  INVESTING IN OUR POLICE  DEPARTMENT NOW SO THAT THE  FUTURE OF PORT STATES BRIGHT  IF WE DO NOT INVEST IN THIS  PROJECT NORTH PORT WILL NO  LONGER BE PORT. I WILL RISE  BROOKVILLE STAGNANT AND EVERY  CHALLENGE THAT COMES NORTH  PORT'S WAY WILL BE HAMSTRUNG  BY THE NEGATIVE EFFECTS OF A  MUCH HIGHER CRIME IN OUR CITY.  LET'S MAKE THE RIGHT CHOICE SO  THAT WE CAN HIT THE CITY  OF NORTH PORT MOVING IN THE  RIGHT DIRECTION, JOE THE LACI.  AS A LOCAL BUSINESS OWNER AND  SEEING THE GROWTH IN THE CITY,  IT IS A MUST THAT WE ARE  OR NORTH PORT POLICE  DEPARTMENT AND THEIR  DEPARTMENT LOCATIONS, A CITY  WITHOUT STRONG POLICE PRESENCE  OF A CITY WITH A RIGHT. REP  FROM I THINK FAIRLY NEWCOMER  TO THE AREA THAT YOU  APPRECIATE PRESIDENT OF POLICE  OFFICERS AROUND TRYING A SAFER  CITY. POLICE OFFICERS ARE HARD  WORKERS AND DESERVE  INSTALLATIONS THAT WILL  IMPROVE THEIR LIFE WORK  BALANCE HEALTH CARE CONDITIONS  AND EFFECTIVE WORKSHOPS. REST  AREAS CAPACITY EXPAND I WIDELY  SUPPORT. OR DO I I OWN  MULTIPLE BUSINESSES IN THE  CITY AND HAVE CHOSEN TO RAISE  HERE HAVING LIVED IN NORTH  PORT FOR THE LAST 13 YEARS AND  WATCHING THEM THAT'S BROKE  COME TO THIS COMMUNITY THROW  CASE, YES, FRIED ALSO THAT  WITH SUCCESS EVENTUALLY  REFINED OPPOSITION. WE ARE  CURRENTLY IN EXTREMELY SAFE  COMMUNITY DUE TO THE  HARDWORKING MEN AND WOMEN WHO  SERVE I CAN'T IMAGINE THE  WORKING CONDITIONS THAT BEING  LEFT AND YET THEY CONTINUE TO  BE COMMITTED TO A STRESSFUL  JOB HIGH-RISK A LITTLE  REWARDING KEEPING COMMUNITIES,  SAFE. AS TIME PASSES IF WE  DON'T INCREASE OUR POLICE  PRESENCE. I CAN'T IMAGINE THE  DEMISE OF OUR STATE COMMUNITY  COULD BECOME THIS IS OUR HOME  AND WE SUPPORT THE GROWTH IN  THE COMMUNITY BUT WHAT THAT WE  NEED TO SUPPORT THE GROWTH OF  THE OFFICERS THAT UPHOLD THE  SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO  STAY SAFE WELL I ENCOURAGE YOU  TO VOTE. YES AND FIND FUNDS  NECESSARY TO FOSTER A SUITABLE  BUILDING ENVIRONMENT FOR THOSE  WHO SERVE AND PROTECT THANK  YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.  DRUCE NOT AS A LOCAL BUSINESS  OWNER AND FAMILY MEMBER OF 2  LONG-STANDING POLICE OFFICERS  INCLUDING ONE WHO LOST IS LIKE  DUE TO PTSD OF SERVING THEY  DEDICATE THEIR LIFE TO SERVING  THE COMMUNITY IN KEEPING US  SAFE. THE LEAST WE CAN DO IS  GIVE THEM THE TOOLS AND  LOGISTICS TO DO STOUT. I STAND  BEHIND THE MPP AND REQUEST  THIS BE UP FOR IT. PERSONALLY  HAVE BRETT STRUCK. GOOD  MORNING.  >> I SPOKE WITH THE COUNCIL  LAST I KNEW THAT HE WRITE MY  BUSINESS AFTER 8 MONTHS AGO,  PHILADELPHIA. WE WERE TALKING  LAST NIGHT ABOUT HOW COOPERATE  AND SOLD OFF IS A GOOD PASS  CHICAGO, I'M NOT MISTAKEN.  IT'S DISHEARTENING THAT'S WHAT  HAPPENED TO THAT THEY DIDN'T  THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S STOP  OVERRUN. SO I JUST WANT YOU TO  TAKE A LOOK AROUND THIS ROOM  TO THAT LOOK AT THESE FACES  AND LOOK HOW COMFORTABLE  EVERYBODY IS IT WAS REALLY  COMFORTABLE IN THEIR CHAIRS  YOU GUYS ARE ALL SPREAD OUT  THE VIDEO OF THE POLICE  DEPARTMENT OF WHAT IN BROOME  CLOSETS, THEY HAVE A DESK IT'S  IT'S RIDICULOUS YOU CANNOT DO  THE JOB THAT WAY.  >> I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT  LET'S TAKE A MOMENT TO  CONSIDER THE CONDITIONS ARE  POLICE OFFICERS THEY FACED  ALI, IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT THE  STATUS OF CRIME RATES. IT'S  ABOUT TANGIBLE CONDITIONS,  THEY WORK. THE CRAMPED  OFFICES, THEY INDOOR ARE NOT  CONDUCIVE TO WELL-BEING WORDS  ARE AFFECTING THIS AND SERVING  OUR COMMUNITY. URGE YOU TO  CONSIDER THE IMPORTANCE OF  INVESTING IN A NEW AND  IMPROVED POLICE DEPARTMENT  OFFICER DESERVE BETTER I THINK  WE ALL KNOW THAT. THANK YOU  FOR LISTENING.  >> THAT'S ALL MAYOR AND WE  HAVE COMMISSIONER EMRICH  CHINA'S OKAY I JUST WANTED TO  ALSO RECOGNIZE FOR THE COUNTY  SHERIFF HOFFMAN IS AND THE  THANK YOU BEING HERE. LOT ALL  RIGHT SO HE'S HERE. ARTIE READ  I MEETING COMMISSIONER  AVERAGING THERE. YES MA'AM CAN  HEAR ME AND YEAH AND WE CAN  SEE YOU TOO. SO GO AHEAD. YOU  KNOW I.  >> HAS AUTHORIZED BY CITY  COMMISSION POLICY NUMBER 2021  DASH TURN. I AM ATTENDING THE  HYBRID MEETING VIA  COMMUNICATIONS MEDIA.  TECHNOLOGIES I AM EXPERIENCING  A MEDICAL CONDITION, INCLUDING  MAINE, DISABILITIES PRESENTING  ME FROM ATTENDING IN PERSON AT  THIS TIME, THANK YOU.  >> I THANK YOU SO I'M LOOKING  FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE  USE OF CMT FOR THIS HYBRID  MEETING SO MOVED ALL RIGHT SO  WE DO HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE  THE USE OF CMT FOR THIS HYBRID  MEETING MADE BY VICE MAYOR  STOKES AND SECONDED BY  COMMISSIONER LANGDON WE WILL  HAVE A VOICE VOTE.  >> I STARE  >> MAYOR WHITE ON COMMISSIONER  YES DO YES. COMMISSIONER  MERGE.  >> MEAN YES OKAY SO THAT  PASSES 5 TO 0 ALL RIGHT SO WE  HAVE THAT TAKEN CARE OF.  >> SO WE'RE MOVING ON TO ITEM  3 WHICH IS GENERAL BUSINESS 24  DASH 0, 5, 9, 9, CITY MANAGER  THIS IS YOUR ITEM IF YOU HAVE  A THAT I WAS DISCUSSION  POSSIBLE ACTION RELATING.  BOMBING OF THE PLAN IS AN FROM  CITIES SPECIAL LEGAL COUNSEL  FINANCIAL ADVISER.  >> RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CHARTER  AMENDMENT LANGUAGE RELATED TO  THE CITY BONDING AUTHORITY  INCLUDING A PERMISSIVE  RECOMMENDATIONS FOR HOW TO  MOVE FORWARD WITH THE NORTH  PORT POLICE DEPARTMENT  HEADQUARTERS PROJECT FUNDING.  WE ARE JOINED AGAIN BY PEOPLE  THAT WE NEED TO INTRODUCE FOR  THESE CONVERSATIONS IS STEVE  MILLER, OUR JEFFREY TOOBIN,  JERRY OUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR  PFM IS HERE AS WELL ONE  STAKEHOLDER PARTICULARLY THAT  I THINK THE CITY ATTORNEY  WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE.  >> YES, THANK YOU CITY MANAGER  FLETCHER PURSUANT TO THE CITY  COMMISSION'S REQUEST TO BRING  OUR EXTERNAL COUNSELOR EXPERTS  FORWARD THE CITY ATTORNEY'S  OFFICE HAS BROUGHT 2 ATTORNEYS  HERE THAT SERVICE SPECIAL  COUNSEL TO THE CITY THE FIRST  IS STEVE MILLER, WHO IS A  SHAREHOLDER THE LAW FIRM OF  NEIGHBORS. NEIGHBORS GET ONE  AND NICKERSON AND HAS BEEN AND  PUBLIC FINANCE STATE OF  FLORIDA FOR MORE THAN 30  YEARS. IT HAS BEEN OUR BOND  COUNCIL FOR SO LONG ONLY JULIE  PROBABLY REMEMBERS THE EXACT  ISN'T IN THE MISTER MILLER IS  HERE IN THE ROOM WITH AND CAN  ADDRESS ANY ISSUES RELATED TO  BONDS. ALSO WITH US WE HAVE  VIRTUALLY CHRIS ROWE WAS A  SHAREHOLDER WITH THE LAW FIRM  GRANT MILLER ALL OF AS A BOARD  CERTIFIED CITY COUNTY AND  LOCAL GOVERNMENT. WELL YOU'RE  YOU'RE IN THE STATE OF  FLORIDA. HE ALSO SERVED  SPECIAL COUNSEL TO THE CITY  AND OFTEN ADVISES. OF THESE  ASSESSMENTS AND TAXES SO THE  PRACTICE AREAS ARE ARE  SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT BUT THEY  VERY COMPLEMENTARY. SO WE WILL  WORK TO MAKE SURE THAT THE  RIGHT PERSON OR PERSONS ANSWER  YOUR QUESTIONS ADDRESS YOUR  NEEDS TODAY. THEY CAN  >> SO THIS THREE-PART  CONVERSATION AND WE'RE FIRST  PART BEING QUESTIONED THE  COMMISSION WAS TO SPEAK  DIRECTLY TO ON COUNT FULL AND  IN OUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR WITH  IT GET FELT WAS RACES OF THE  JOY IS ALREADY FOR ONE  CONVERSATION SO. HE'S HAD A  GOOD AMOUNT OF INTERACTION  WITH YOU BUT HAVING A COMEBACK  TODAY TO HERE THE SAME TIME AS  YOU HEARD FROM BOND COUNCIL.  WE THOUGHT WAS VERY IMPORTANT  THAT HE WAS ABLE TO MAKE IT TO  MAKE SURE THERE'S ANY  OUTSTANDING FINANCIAL QUESTION  THEIR ANSWER AT THE SAME TIME.  SO FOR THE FIRST SECTION WILL  TURN IT OVER TO YOU AS A BOARD  TO DISCUSS THE BOTH PLACES  THAT YOU HAD COUNCIL BECAUSE  SO WE'RE SEE  >> WITH THE FIRST OBVIOUSLY  BEING AWARE OF FOR SITUATION  WHERE FOR ALL INTENTS PURPOSES  REVENUE BONDS, AND GENERAL  OBLIGATIONS BONDS ARE TREATED  THIS ONE IN THE SAME IN OUR  CITY REQUIRE US GOING OUT FOR  REFERENDUM. COULD YOU SPEAK A  LITTLE TOO. EVEN THAT BEING  THE CASE THE DIFFERENCES. THE  DIFFERENCES IN FUNDING  METHODOLOGY FOR GENERAL  OBLIGATION FOR SUCH A REVENUE  BOND AND AND IT ALL LEADS TO A  LITTLE IN THE SENSE THAT YOU  IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT  THE GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS.  CAN BASICALLY BE FINANCIAL  WHERE WITH ALL THE CITY ITS  REVENUES ITS ASSETS. REVENUE  BONDS, MORE APPROPRIATELY ARE  ARE ARE MORE TARGETED FUNDING  SOURCE WHERE YOU CLEARLY  IDENTIFY SO IF YOU COULD SPEAK  A LITTLE TO THAT SO PEOPLE CAN  UNDERSTAND I THINK QUITE SURE  SNOW. THANK YOU.  >> AGAINST THE MILITANT  NEIGHBORS, NICKERSON BOND  COUNSEL TO THE CITY. A GENERAL  OBLIGATION BOND IN FLORIDA IS  ONE WHERE THE FAITH CREDIT AND  TAXING POWER OF THE CITY OR  THE COUNTY IS THE SECURITY AND  SORCERY PAYMENT FOR THE BONDS  I E PROPERTY TAXES OKAY SO YOU  OUT THERE IN YOUR PLEDGING  YOUR EVEN YOUR FULL FAITH IN  CREDIT AND TAX IN POWER OR  LIMIT IT. THERE WILL BE A  LIMITED TAXING POWER. YOU CAN  ALSO PLEDGING THAT CASE. UNDER  FLORIDA LAW AND THE FLORIDA  CONSTITUTION. ANY LOCAL  GOVERNMENT AND THE STATES THE  ONES TO ISSUE GENERAL  OBLIGATION BONDS TABLE FOR  LONGER THAN A YEAR. HAVE TO GO  TO A REFERENDUM. NOT JUST THE  CITY. REVENUE BY AN ISRAELI  LARGELY EVERYTHING YOU MAY  PLEDGES SPECIFIC SECURITY LIKE  SALES TAXES. WELL, GAS TAXES  IF YOU'RE DOING SOME  TRANSPORTATION BONDS UTILITY  SYSTEM MIGHT PLEDGE THE NET  REVENUES OF THE UTILITY SYSTEM  TO THE SECURITY OF THE BONDS.  SO REVENUE BOND IS PRETTY MUCH  THE WHOLE BASKET OF POSSIBLE  FINANCING SECURITY SOURCES YOU  WOULD USE AND YOU GUYS  UNFORTUNATELY, ARE GOING TO  THE LOOKOUT THAT I KNOW OF IN  THE STATE THAT HAS SUCH A.  RESTRICTIVE CHARTER THAT WOULD  REQUIRE YOU TO DO A REFERENDUM  FOR BOTH.  >> WHEN IT COMES TO BONDING  HOW FLEXIBLE I MEAN EMIRATIS  STATIONS ON ON STILL TYPICALLY  30 YEARS, BUT IF THE LIFETIME  OF FOR ASSET OR PROJECT IS 40  YEAR LIFE FOR A 50 YEAR LIKE.  OUR BOND OFFERINGS MADE FOR  THAT LINKS THE TIME.  >> I MAY LET JERRY SPEAK TO  SOME OF THAT ON THE FINANCIAL  SIDE BUT IN 40 GENERALLY 30  YEARS WE'VE SEEN SOME 40 YEAR  BOND ISSUES. IN THE PAST BUT  TYPICALLY IF YOU ARE HAVING A  LONGER-TERM ASSETS AND YOU  WANT TO LOWER THE ANNUAL  PAYMENTS TO TO TO MAKE IT  MANAGEABLE FOR THAT THE CITY  AND THE CASH FLOW AND  TAXPAYERS. AND YOU CAN SEE A  30 YEAR BOND ISSUE, BUT A BOND  ISSUE DOESN'T HAVE TO BE 30  CAN BE 20 IT COULD BE 10 IT  COULD BE WHATEVER YOU WOULD  LIKE IT TO BE WHATEVER BUT  THAT TYPICALLY FOLKS DO TRY TO  MATCH UP TO SOME DEGREE.  ECONOMIC LIFE OF ASSET WITH  WITH THE DURATION OF THE BOND  ISSUE AND HOW CREATIVE AND IN  A BOND OR FROM SAFER MAY.  >> LEAST PER OR COPS APPROACH  TO A PROJECT, HOW FLEXIBLE IS  IT'S THE BOND STRUCTURING CAN  YOU. YOU KNOW ARE THERE ON  OFFERING SAID TO INTEREST ONLY  FOR A PERIOD OF YEARS AND KICK  IN PRINCIPAL AMORTIZATION OVER  TIME I MEAN YOU KNOW WHAT TO  GET RIGHT TO THE POINT YOUR  SITUATION. WE HAVE ONLY A  COUPLE FUNDING BUCKETS TO WORK  WITH FIRE AND SIR TAXES ONE  THAT IN THE EARLY YEARS WE  REALLY HAVE OBLIGATED DOLLARS  FOR SO WE'RE A LITTLE SKINNY  AND IN OUR ABILITY TO TO LEAN  ON THAT BUCKET. SO I WAS  WONDERING HOW FLEXIBLE  STRUCTURE COULD BE YOU KNOW,  AND HOW DOES IT OKAY SO SO HOW  TO FOR GERMANY A LARGELY ON  THIS  >> AS FAR AS A LEGAL  STANDPOINT THERE'S IN FACT IF  WE DO TAX EXEMPT THAT CAN BE  SOME SOME CONSIDERATIONS AND  THE TAX WORLD AS FAR AS SOME  OF THE STRUCTURE YOU WANT TO  DO. BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING,  IT'S GOT A LOT OF IN IN THE  BOND MARKET TOO STRUCTURE  PAYMENTS. YOU KNOW ANY WAY YOU  WANT NOW SOMETIMES IT COMES  WITH A COST OBVIOUSLY LOWER  PAYMENTS IN THE BEGINNING  LOWER PRINCIPAL PAYMENTS TO  TRY TO YOU KNOW MAKE IT MORE  PALATABLE IN THE BEGINNING AND  EXTEND YOU KNOW INCREASE THE  AMOUNT OF INTEREST THAT YOU  PAY OVER TIME IT'S EXCEPT THAT  WHICH I THINK THAT'S RIGHT AND  WHETHER IT'S CERTIFICATES OR  BOND DEAL THE SAME STRUCTURING  OPTIONS EXIST SO.  >> AND CAPITALIZED INTEREST  THROUGH THE FURTHER PRINCIPAL  REPAYMENT OR STRUCTURES THAT  ARE OFTEN USE.  >> WITH THE GENERAL OBLIGATION  BOND. CITY HAVE TO SPECIFY NOW  IN INDY. IN THE LANGUAGE. IT  PROBABLY WOULD BE PRUDENT TO  AS SPECIFIC AS POSSIBLE TO THE  FUNDING SOURCES. LEGALLY. IS  THERE A REQUIREMENT TO SPECIFY  FUNDING TIGHT OR COULD I MEAN  THE SPECIFIC FUNDING SOURCES  AND THEIR PRIORITIES FOR COULD  LIST A SERIOUS STUFF. OPTIONS  OR BUCKETS THAT YOU COULD DRAW  FROM OR DO YOU EVEN NEED TO AT  ALL.  >> GIOVANNI REFERENDUM UNDER  FLORIDA LAW IN FLORIDA  CONSTITUTION. YOU DO NEED TO  LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT IT'S  OBVIOUSLY BEING PAYABLE FROM  APPLE ON TAXES WHETHER IT'S A  LIMITED AS LONG TO ACTUALLY  USE A WILL NEVER LEVY MORE  THAN HALF A MILL TO AN  UNLIMITED GENERAL OBLIGATION  BOND WHERE YOU RAISE THE  MILEAGE IS AND IF DAYS. YES,  YOU WANT TO BE VERY SPECIFIC  ABOUT WHAT THAT SECURITY IS ON  THE OTHER TO SATISFY YOUR OWN  REFERENDUM. DEPARTMENT WE'VE  ALWAYS FELT AS THAT THE  REFERENDUM QUESTION REALLY  NEEDS TO HAVE. A HANDFUL OF  THINGS IT. DEFENSIBLE OKAY ONE  IS THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF THE  BONDS. THE MAXIMUM MATURITY OF  THE BOND THAT YOU'RE GOING TO  DO THE SECURITY OK AND SO IF  YOU DO.  >> MAYBE.  >> YOU KNOW WE'VE BEEN ASKED  EARLIER ABOUT LOOKING AT  REFERENDUM QUESTION IF YOU  WANT TO DO MAYBE MAYBE SALES  SURTAX OF THE COMBINATION OF  AND WE'RE KIND OF A NEW WAY  THROUGH THAT. I THINK IT'S  POSSIBLE. WE DO IT THAT WAY.  AND THEN THAT THE INTEREST  RATE WANT SEE THE NEXT ONE BY  LOT THE ITEMS WE THINK SHOULD  ALWAYS BE A REFERENDUM  QUESTION. THE PROBLEM OF  REFERENDUM QUESTIONS IS. THE  MORE CONFUSING. THEY ARE.  >> THE MORE CHALLENGE WILL  THEY ARE FOR SOMEONE WHO CAN  GET THEIR WAY AND IT PASSED BE  ABLE TO CHALLENGE IT SO WE  TRIED TO MAKE IT. IT'S CLEAR  AND SIMPLE AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE  THAT THAT CAN WITHSTAND.  CHALLENGE IT. WE'VE GOT SOME  FLEXIBILITY THERE IS NO HARD  BLACK AND WHITE. WEATHER WALL  FLORIDA AS TO EXACTLY WHAT HAS  TO BE IN IT. WE JUST WANT TO  NO CLEAR TO THE VOTER  INCLUSIVE OF OF IN IT.  >> FUEL TO MY FELLOW  COMMISSIONERS I MEAN COME BACK  I CAN UP WITH SOME THINGS I  MISSED THAT. QUESTION.  >> COMMISSIONER LANGDON THANK  YOU MAYOR.  >> I'M SURE IN YOUR POSITION  YOU ADVISE CLIENTS IN TERMS OF  HOW THEY MIGHT APPROACH DEBT  WHICH WAY TO GO. WHAT ADVICE  DO YOU GIVE MORE ON WHAT  FACTORS YOU ANALYZE A CLIENT'S  SITUATION. WHEN YOU RECOMMEND  EITHER A GEO BOND OR OF  SPECIFIC FUNDING INSTRUMENT.  YOU STARTED WITH THE PREMISE  WHICH PROBABLY ISN'T TYPICAL  IN OUR TYPICAL TRANSACTION  FLORIDA. USUALLY.  >> THE FINANCIAL PERSON COMES  ALONG AND LOOK AT YOUR  FINANCIAL SITUATION AND GIVES  YOU YOUR BEST OPTIONS FROM A  FINANCIAL STANDPOINT OF WHAT  SECURITY MAKE SENSE. WHENEVER  YOU'RE TRYING TO OK.  >> AND AGAIN THAT'S WITHOUT  THE RESTRICTION THAT YOU EXTRA  STRETCHING YOU GUYS HAVE WITH  YOUR CHART. AND TYPICALLY  BROUGHT ALONG TO SAY OH THIS  IS WHAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT  GOING IN PLEDGING AND USING  THAT SECURITY ARE THERE LEGAL  IMPEDIMENTS THAT THIS SORT OF  LEGAL PROBLEMS WITH THIS YOU  AGREE, YES, SOME ISSUES WITH  IT. TYPICALLY YOU KNOW, JEREMY  AND HIS FIRM OF PEOPLE WANT  WORK WITH THE FINANCIAL FOLKS  AND CITY MANAGEMENT ABOUT OKAY  THIS IS THIS IS THE GOLD IS  THE PURPOSE FINANCE. AS OUR  FINANCIAL SITUATION, WHAT  MAKES THE MOST SENSE HERE. AND  YOU HAVE AND YOU DO HAVE  OPTIONS, I MEAN YOU KNOW.  THERE'S NOT ONLY JUST ONE  THAT'S CLEARLY. THE NO IT WAS  MY OTHER  >> ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE  TALKED ABOUT IS WEISE.  >> THAT THAT'S STILL IN DEBT  INSTRUMENT. I DON'T KNOW WHO  CAN BEST ANSWER THIS QUESTION.  HOW HOW DO YOU SEE THAT  FITTING INTO THE METS OKAY.  >> SO EXPLAIN TO THINGS THAT  LEASE PURCHASE ALRIGHT, SO  THERE IS.  >> HISTORICALLY IN FLORIDA  WITH MY EXPERIENCE. THERE ARE  SMALLER LEAST PURCHASE TYPE  TRANSACTIONS THAT ARE USUALLY  OFFERED UP BY VENDORS.  FINANCIAL OUTFITS ARE BIG  VENDORS SUPPLY YOU WITH THE  EQUIPMENT OR WE UHL'S LEASED  VEHICLES ETCETERA. AND THAT'S  JUST A SITUATION WHERE. VENDOR  IS GOING TO LEASE TO YOU.  ASSETS OVER 5 YEARS 10 YEARS  15 YEARS, OKAY. IN FLORIDA  TYPICALLY STRUCTURED. WHERE  IT'S A YEAR TO YEAR LEASE,  OKAY, AND THAT YOU HAVE THE  ABILITY EACH YEAR. AS A  COMMISSION. TO DECIDE NOT TO  APPROPRIATE TO PAY THE LEASE  GOING FORWARD OKAY. AND THE  REMEDY IN FLORIDA TO VENDOR  THAT SITUATION THEY GET THEIR  EQUIPMENT BACK. OKAY,  CENTRALLY. BEFORE SUPREME  COURT HAS RULED DIFFERENT  LEASE PURCHASE TRANSACTIONS  THAT THAT IS NOT CONSIDERED A  DEBT. TABLE FROM THAT FORM  TAXES. THE 4 CONSTITUTIONAL  THE VISION. BECAUSE IT IS A  YEAR YEAR. IT'S NOT GREATER  THAN A YEAR WHICH IS A KEY  COMPONENT FOR CONSTITUTIONAL  PROVISION. SO THAT'S A LEASE  PURCHASE WORD INVOLVES JUST  YOU A VENDOR. IT'S TYPICALLY  STRUCTURED AS A FINANCING THAI  POLICE WERE THERE AS A  PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST  COMPONENT OVER TIME THE  INTEREST CAN PUT BE TAX  EXEMPT. AND THE INTENT IS THAT  YOU GOING TO WALK AWAY FROM  RIGHT, IT'S AN ESSENTIAL ASSET  SOMETHING YOU NEED AND I CAN  WALK AWAY FROM IT. IN FLORIDA  BACK IN THE CONCEPT SIMILAR TO  LEASE PURCHASE WE CALL THESE  PERKS OR CERTIFICATES OF  PARTICIPATION YOU HEARD THAT  WERE COPS. HE REFERRED TO THE  BEFORE MY TIME WITH THE TERM  BUT PAY TRUCKING ARE WAS WAS.  BEHIND THAT FOR BREVARD COUNTY  AT THE TIME AND I KNOW  SARASOTA SCHOOLS WAS THE OTHER  SEMINOLE BACK TO ME BACK IN  THE IT IS STRUCTURED WHERE THE  LOCAL GOVERNMENT. CREATE A  NOT-FOR-PROFIT LEASING  CORPORATION THAT IT CONTROLS.  A LOCAL GOVERNMENT THEN GROUND  LEASES PROPERTY TO THE  CORPORATION WHO THEN BUILDS  WHATEVER. ASSET YOU WANT TO  BUILD THROUGH THAT. AND THEN.  LEE SAYS YES IT INLAND, BACK  TO THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT FOR  THEIR USE. THAT'S ALSO BEEN  STRUCTURED AS A YEAR TO YEAR  TO YEAR TO YEAR LEASE. AND IT  WAS INTENDED. WHEN IT WAS  CREATED TO GET AROUND THE  FLORIDA CONSTITUTIONAL.  PROVISION ABOUT HAVING HAVE A  REFERENDUM IF YOU'RE HAVING  THAT WARM SECURE. I KNOW THIS  KIND OF LONG-WINDED BUT I KNOW  ONE OF THE LITTLE BIT OF  HISTORY ON THAT. WE'VE TALKED  WITH ALMOST EVERY  ADMINISTRATION SINCE WE'VE  BEEN BOND COUNCIL. BUT THAT'S  A POSSIBLE OPTION. HOWEVER,  BEFORE THE CONSTITUTIONAL  PROVISION WHICH HAS BEEN  DETERMINED BY THE SUPREME  COURT NOT TO BE VIOLATED BY  ONE OF THESE. IT'S NOT THE  SAME LANGUAGE AS YOUR CHART  VISION AND YOUR CHARGE CAN  CERTAINLY MORE RESTRICTIVE AND  THE FLORIDA CONSTITUTION OF  FLORIDA WAS SO WE'VE ALWAYS  DISCUSS IF YOU WANTED TO GO  DOWN THAT PATH. IT WOULD BE  SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD WANT  DAY. SO LONG SHORT OF IT IS.  IT'S INTENDED IT IS A DEBT  FINANCING DON'T HIS WORK THAT  IT'S A FINANCING VEHICLE.  >> GO 10 YEARS 5 YEARS 2530  YEARS, HOWEVER TERM YOU WANT  TO GO. FLORIDA. SUPREME COURT  HAS RULED THAT IN THE CONTEXT  OF COPS PROGRAMS THAT WERE  BROUGHT TO THEM.  >> IT'S NOT YET. PURPOSES SO  BEFORE CONSTITUTIONAL. WHETHER  OR NOT ITS DEBT UNDER YOUR  CHARTER. WHAT WE DON'T KNOW WE  DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DRAFTERS  MEANT AFTER THAT. I'M NOT  QUESTIONING FROM NEW YORK I  MAY FOR THE FOR A MOMENT.  >> I HEAR A LOT FROM FOLKS IN  THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY'RE  VERY CONCERNED IF THE CITY HAD  BORROWING AUTHORITY THAT WE  WOULD GET OVEREXTENDED ARE IN  OVER OUR HEADS WHAT KIND OF  SAFEGUARDS ARE THERE PROCESS  TO PREVENT THAT FROM  HAPPENING.  >> YEAH THAT'S THAT'S REALLY A  MARKET CREDIT YES, STEVE  MENTIONED EARLY IN THE PROCESS  WE LOOK AT CAPACITY AND WHAT  THAT. YOU KNOW WHAT THE  CAPACITY IS AND THEN WHAT  SENSITIVITY IS TOO. THE MATH  BECAUSE THE CREDIT SO BEFORE  WE WOULD TAKE THE TRANSACTION  TO THE MARKET. WE WOULD TEST  THAT AND LOOK FOR POTENTIALLY  A RATING. IT'S A PUBLIC  ISSUANCE. BUT EVEN IF IT WAS A  PRIME PLACE FOR A LOT OF  RATING STILL HAVE A CREDIT  PACKAGE AND WE REVIEW THAT SO  THAT PAST FOR BUILDING ARE  REALLY 2 SEPARATE THINGS,  ALTHOUGH THEY KIND OF GET  WHICH TOGETHER SO BILL IS WHAT  WHEN YOU HAVE AN YOUR BUDGET  TO ALLOCATE THOSE PAYMENTS AND  THAT CAPACITY IS WHAT PERSON  THAT ISSUING THAT OR WHAT WHAT  JAVELINA SO TYPICALLY THERE'S  HIRED THAT CAPACITY THE. LET'S  PASS IT. WE LOOK AT  >> THANK YOU THAT AND YOU  >> WHAT IF I JUST FOLLOW UP ON  THAT REAL QUICK AND ALL OF US  HAVE CREDIT SCORE TRY GET  CREDIT SCORE WHEN YOU GO AND  EVERY LOCAL GOVERNMENT HAS A  CREDIT RATING FROM THE RATING  AGENCIES AND IT BEHOOVES EVERY  LOCAL GOVERNMENT TO TRY TO  KEEP THIS HIGH CREDIT RATING  IS THEY CAN POSSIBLY HAVE  BECAUSE ANY BAR WHEN YOU DO  DOWN THE ROAD I CREDIT RATING.  >> LOWER THE INTEREST RATES  THAT CHEAPER YOU'RE BORROWING  SO THERE'S THERE'S INCENTIVE.  BUT IT IS UP TO THE CITY  ULTIMATELY TO BE FINANCIALLY  PRUDENT AND TO HAVE.  PRACTICES. FOLKS YOU KNOW YOU  HAVE AN INVESTMENT POLICY. LOT  OF FOLKS WHO HAVE A LOT OF  DEBT OUT THERE HAVE DEBT  MANAGEMENT POLICIES THAT THEY  PUT TOGETHER DO RESTRICT OKAY  THEY YOU COULD LOT OF FOLKS  YOU KNOW FAIRLY RESTRICTED  DEBT MANAGEMENT POLICIES THAT  THEY ADOPT. I TOOK THAT THEY  CAN ISSUE THE AMOUNT OF DEBT  THEY CAN ISSUE MATURITIES OF  THE DEBT THEY CAN ISSUE YOU  CAN PUT ANYTHING MORE A POLICY  AND THEN YOU WOULD BE BEHOLDEN  TO THAT.  >> THANK I JUST HAD A.  QUESTION TO WHAT YOU'RE  TALKING ABOUT IF I MAY I'M  GOING TO RELEASE YOU SAYING  THAT IT'S NOT CONSIDERED A GET  A DEBT. BUT IT'S A YEAR TO  YEAR LEASE, RIGHT AND 2 OF  PARTICIPATION. THEY'RE ALSO  YOU'RE YOU'RE LISA SITE AND  THEY'RE NOT IT'S IF IT'S NOT  CONSIDERED A DEBT. WHAT ARE  THE OPTIONS TO PAY THAT. WELL.  >> I DIDN'T SAY IT WASN'T THAT  THINK THAT'S INTERPRETIVE  QUESTION ABOUT YOUR CHARTER  OKAY FLORIDA SUPREME COURT HAS  SAID IT'S NOT DEBT FOR  PURPOSES OF CONSTITUTIONAL  PROVISION THAT SAYS YOU CAN  ISSUE BONDS GREATER THAN A  YEAR PEOPLE TAX QUESTION, OK  THEY SAY THAT THAT DOESN'T. OK  IT. BUT IT IS STILL A  FINANCING VEHICLE. I MEAN IT  IS A WAY TO FINANCE ASSETS  OVER A PERIOD OF TIME. BUT IN  ORDER FOR IT TO BE THE ONLY  DIFFERENCE BETWEEN IT AND MORE  TRADITIONAL THAT IF YOU ARE AN  ISSUE 30 YEAR FIXED RATE  BONDS. OK LIKE YOU HAVE IN THE  PAST WE'VE HAD REFERENDUMS  YOU'RE ALL PAY. THOSE FOR 30  YEARS UNTIL YOU OFF EARLY WITH  THE LEASE PURCHASE OR THE COPS  THE WAY THEY'RE STRUCTURED  EVERY YEAR. YOU'VE GOT THE  ABILITY AS THE ELECTED BODY TO  DECIDE NOT TO APPROPRIATE  MOVING FORWARD. I'M NOT AWARE  YOU KNOW THIS IS A VERY VERY  VERY COMMON FINANCING VEHICLE  FOR SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN THE  STATE. SCHOOL DISTRICTS HAVE.  VERY LITTLE REVENUES OTHER  THAN PROPERTY TAXES MOST OF  THEIR REVENUES ARE FROM  PROPERTY TAXES. AND SO THEY  USE THESE SCHOOLS. I DON'T  KNOW OF ANYONE WHO'S DECIDED  NOT TO PROCREATE WALK AWAY  FROM SCHOOL. ALL RIGHT, THANK  YOU.  >> COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL.  >> TALKED ABOUT IT.  >> YOU TALKED ABOUT THE  CERTIFICATE PARTICIPATION ARE  COPS AND IT NEEDS TO BE  VALIDATED FIRST. CAN YOU  EXPLAIN WHAT THAT COST AND  TIME FRAME LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT  THAT PROCESS LOOKS LIKE.  >> SO UNDER FLORIDA LAW  THERE'S A PROVISION IN THE  FLORIDA STATUTES THAT SAYS  THAT WHEN YOU ARE. THE  SHOOTING DEATH.  >> WANT TO AT LEAST PURCHASE  AGREEMENT OR EVEN IN LOCAL  GRANT WE'RE OBLIGATED TO PAY  MONEY OVER TIME. IF YOU HAVE A  LEGAL QUESTION THAT YOU'RE  NOT. YOU CAN GO TO THE CIRCUIT  COURT. IT'S EXPEDITED PROCESS  AND GET THE CIRCUIT COURT TOO.  LOOK AT YOUR DEBT ISSUE IN THE  END THE SPECIFIC ISSUES THAT  YOU RAISE AND THEY WILL EITHER  VALIDATE THE BONDS I THEN  THERE'S COURT STAMP OF  APPROVAL. THEY WILL OKAY. THE  PETITIONER FOR VALIDATION CASE  WOULD BE THE CITY. THE  DEFENDANT THAT STATE  ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. THE  AND I CAN'T RECALL THAT'S  TAXPAYER. I THINK ANY RESIDENT  FULL-TIME RESIDENT OR TAXPAYER  IN THE CITY AND INTERVENE. CAN  CHALLENGE VALIDATION LIKED.  >> A CITIZEN CAN INTERVENE.  >> IN THE END THE VALIDATION  PROCEEDING. THE COURT  PROCEEDING THAT COULD BECOME A  PART.  >> THE CITY OF NORTH PORT IS  THE PLAINTIFF WOULD STATE  ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS THE  DEFENDANT CORRECT. AND THEN  THE CITIZENS AND THE CITIZENS  CAN DOES IT AND YOU KNOW MAKE  THEIR ARGUMENTS BEFORE AND  LIKE GIVING 3 MINUTES PUBLIC  COMMENT. WELL THE PROBLEM THAT  THE PENDING THE POKE DO THEY  NEED TO HIRE AN ATTORNEY THEY  COULD THEY DON'T HAVE TO IS IT  MORE LIKE AN AGGRIEVED PARTY,  I'M SORRY AND THE QUIET SIDE  YEAH SHE'LL SOTO YEAH, I MEAN  IT'S IT'S SOMEONE WHO HAS AN  INTEREST IN IT BECAUSE. THERE  ARE A RESIDENT OF CITY. OKAY,  I THINK THEY BECOME PART OF  THE LAWSUIT WRECKED. SO  THERE'S FULL FLEDGED, YOU  PARTY AND PAYING EVERYTHING  THAT RELATES THE LAWSUIT JUST  LIKE THE PLAINTIFF AND  DEFENDANT TOO. SO IT IS IT IS  DIFFERENT THAN A PUBLIC  COMMENTER AND IT IS DIFFERENT  AND THE WAS TRYING TO EQUATE  EASY UNDERSTAND TERMS WHAT  THAT LOOKS LIKE FOR A CITIZEN.  THANK YOU FOR THAT EXPLANATION  NOW. TIMING THAT YOU ASKED AND  SAVING AND COST SO. WE DON'T  DO A TON OF WE HAVE THEM. BUT  IF YOU'RE IN THE LAST COUPLE  YEARS FOR SOME REASON BUT.  TYPICALLY IF YOU DON'T HAVE  AND THE STATE ATTORNEY IS NOT  OPPOSED IN TYPICALLY THEY'RE  NOT UNLESS THERE'S SOME  CONTROVERSIAL ISSUE USUALLY  SIT DOWN STATE ATTORNEY  EXPLAIN WHAT THE ISSUE IS WHAT  WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT WHY  WOULD GO BEFORE THE COURT  TYPICALLY THEY HAVE NO  OPPOSITION TO IT.  >> NO ONE ELSE INTERVENES IT'S  A MATTER OF GETTING JUDGES  DOCKET. YOU KNOW YOU'RE  TALKING ABOUT A 60 DAY 90 DAY  PERIOD PROBABLY. THE CITY  WOULD HAVE TO ADOPT A. ALL  RIGHT AND ON RESOLUTION THAT  RESOLUTION BEFORE YOU COULD  THAT IT DOESN'T COMMIT YOU  DOING ANYTHING BUT IT'S  SOMETHING THAT YOU ACTUALLY  HAVE THAT. OFFICIAL ACTION BY  YOU TO TO DO THAT. SO IT COULD  BE A 60 TO 90 DAY PROCESS  KNOWN TO NO ISSUES. IF THERE  ARE ISSUES AND HIS INTERVENE  ERS OR THE STATE ATTORNEY AS  OPPOSED TO IT. AND THEY LOSE  YOU PREVAIL AND GET THE BONDS  VALIDATED THEY CAN AND THE  APPEAL OF THE VALIDATION CASE  IS DIRECTLY TO THE FLORIDA  SUPREME THE COURT OF APPEALS.  AND IT'S SUPPOSED NEXT PROCESS  BUT IN OUR EXPERIENCE. YOU'RE  TALKING ABOUT A YEAR TO 18  MONTHS DOWN THE ROAD BEFORE  YOU CAN GET  >> SO.  >> IF THERE'S NO INTERVENERS.  AND EVERYTHING GOES ACCORDING  TO PLAN IT 60 TO 90 DAYS. IF  THERE ARE INTERVENERS THEN  THAT'S WHEN IT GOES TO THE  SUPREME COURT.  >> WHOEVER LOSES AT THE  CIRCUIT COURT LEVEL IF YOU DID  HAVE IT DIDN'T BECOME THAT THE  SERIAL PROCESS AND AND. CITY  LOST YOU COULD FEEL THAT FOR  SUPREME COURT IF YOU THOUGHT  SONG. IT BUT WHOEVER THE STATE  ATTORNEY OR HEAR APPEAL. THE  COURT. IF THEY DID NOT LIKE  THE OUTCOME.  TYPICALLY. ONE THAT'S  UNCONTESTED PROBABLY AND I  DON'T DO IT. I LITIGATION  GROUP BUT ARE FROM OUTSIDE  IT'S PROBABLY $25,000 $30,000.  BUT ONE THAT'S NOT CONTESTED  AND NOT FIELD.  >> AND IF IT IS CAN TESTED.  >> CONTESTED IT MIGHT BE A  LITTLE BIT MORE JUST BECAUSE  IT WOULD BE AN HOURLY RATE YOU  KNOW WE TYPICALLY SEE OUR  LEADERS WITH THE CAP. BUT I'VE  SEEN HIM COME IN IN THE LOWER  20'S TO 30 RANGE LATELY. IF  IT'S CONTESTED IT MIGHT BE A  LITTLE BIT MORE EVEN IF IT'S  NOT APPEAL JUST BECAUSE THERE  MAY BE MORE DEPOSITIONS THAT  MAYBE MORE. SPENT HAVING TO  DEAL WITH THEM IN WITH THE  STATE ATTORNEY IF HE IS  CONTESTING IT. SHE. IF IT'S IF  >> APPEAL BEFORE SUPREME  COURT, YOU KNOW YOU'RE TALKING  DOUBLE OR.  >> THANK YOU FOR THAT  >> CREDIT RATING BOND RATING  ARE THEY. INTERCHANGEABLE  EXACTLY THE SAME. I I KNOW MY  CREDIT RATING I DON'T HAVE A  BOND RATING. SO THAT'S WHY I'M  ASKING THE QUESTION AND  QUESTION THERE THEY'RE USED  ENTERTAINED SO SO DOES THE  SAME THING WE WOULD.  >> BUT FOR CREDIT RATING OR  RECEIVE A BOND RATING.  >> EXCELLENT SO WHAT IS OUR  CURRENT CREDIT SUCH BOND  RATING.  >> YES, YOU YOU HAVE AN  IMPLIED SAID THAT THE RATING  WOULD BE A DOUBLE IN THE  DOUBLE-A CATEGORY SAY YEAR.  >> RATED YOU DOUBLE IT.  >> IS THAT THE HIGH INTEREST  OR IS IT JUST HOT, HIGHS SO  TRIPLE A RATING IS THE  HIGHEST.  >> TRIPLE-A RATING FOR EXAMPLE  BE THE STATE OF FLORIDA ARE  BOTH THE WATER AND SEWER. A  DOUBLE A RATE IS VERY GOOD AS  A VERY STRONG COVERAGE, AN  UNSTABLE A COMMON REVENUES.  >> OKAY SO YOU SAID THAT IF WE  WERE TO DO A GEO. IT'S A  DOUBLE E WHICH IS A HIGH  RATING WHAT IF WE DO REVENUE  BOND, WHAT IS THAT RATING.  >> THE STANDARD PRACTICES  ADOPTING FACTOR, SO. SO YOU  WOULD NOTCHED ONE. ONE NOT SO  DOUBLE A. TO DO A LOT OF US  ARE DOUBLE A PLUS TO DOUBLE-A  SO IT'S STILL IN THE DOUBLE-A  CATEGORY IT WOULD JUST NOT  >> OKAY WHEN YOU SAY A NOTCH  OFF IS THAT LIKE A DOUBLE A  HAVE W MINUS A PLUS.  >> RIGHT THEY MINUS A BUS THAT  A THAT US.  >> OKAY SO.  >> WOULD BE A TICK BELOW  PROBLEM WITH YOUR THAT THEY  VIEW THE GEO RATING AS THE  MOST SECURE BALL AND YOU CAN  HAVE BECAUSE YOU'RE YOU'RE  PROMISING THAT LED TEXAS. FOR  IT'S ANOTHER REVENUE STREAM  AND THEN OTHER REVENUE STREAMS  ARE DIFFERENT. YOU KNOW WHAT  YOU MAY HAVE OFFICIAL TO US.  AND SO THAT MIGHT SO.  >> CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT IS OUR  CURRENT REVENUE BOND RATING.  >> YEAH, SEE YOU YOU ARE  DOUBLE A CREDIT.  >> OKAY, SO OUR BOND RATING  FOR REVENUE BOND AND OUR GEO  BOND IS STILL DOUBLE IT. YOU  KNOW YOU MAY COME BACK AT THE  DOUBLE-A PLUS WE HAVEN'T. FOR  FOR ANY MONEY CREDIT SO WE  WANT TO TOGETHER LIKE WHEN A  CREDIT AGENCY THAT WE RATING  YOU PICK ONE OF ONE OR 2 OR  ALL 3 TO RATE  >> NOT LOOK AT YOUR RATING  BEFORE THE. NORMALLY BECAUSE  YOU HAVE AN IT SHOULD A LAW.  >> I DON'T KNOW IF WIN THE  LAST TIME WAS WHEN YOU  SHOULDN'T CO BOND.  >> I AND ONE OF THE UNTIL WE  >> BUT THE BUT THAT'S REVENUE  FROM PAST THE FEES OR WHATEVER  THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT USED  THINK JUST BIG PICTURE UTILITY  REVENUES HAVE GREAT ADJUSTMENT  ABILITY GIO BOMBS HAVE RATE  ADJUSTMENT ABILITY SO THOSE  ARE THE HIGHEST RATINGS THAT  THE CITY WILL IT YOU WONDER,  AND THEN PASSIVE REVENUE LIKE  SALES TAX. THERE IS NO CONTROL  OVER WHAT THE SALES TAXES YOU  CAN INCREASE THE PERCENTAGE OF  IS WHAT IT IS. SO THAT'S MORE  PASSES TYPICALLY ONE NOTCH  OFF. AND THAT COPS LIKELY BE  IN THAT. REVENUE PASS SCENARIO  JUST BECAUSE OF THE RISK OF  APPROPRIATION SO PRO GREATER  PREPARATION RISK IS AN OPTION  FACTOR. BUT IT'S NOT. IT  TAKING IT TO A SINGLE A IT'S  STILL AND THAT DOUBLE GOT.  >> THANK YOU FOR I HAVE 1, 1,  MORE KIND OF QUESTION BUT IT'S  A 2 PARTER. SO. THANK YOU FOR  BEING HERE. SO TELL I'M TRYING  TO GET THE BASICS OF ALL THIS.  I MEAN IT'S NOT EVERY DAY WE  SHOULD LAST TIME WE ISSUED  BONDS WAS FOR ROBOT AND THAT  WAS WAY BEFORE ANY OF OUR  >> WHAT CONDITIONS. YOU GUYS  CONSIDER TO BE LIKE FAVORABLE  FOR THE CITY TO BE ABLE TO  ISSUE DEBT. WHAT DO YOU LOOK  FORWARD TO SAY YES, NOW'S A  FAVORABLE TIME.  >> FIRST JERRY BECAUSE THIS IS  MORE OF THE MARKET MARKET  ISSUE, BUT I TRUMP'S A LOT YOU  SOMETIMES THERE'S A THERE'S A  AND NO MATTER WHAT THE MARKET  CONDITIONS MIGHT LIKE THE  THAT. AND IF IT'S A COMMUNITY  ON IS USUALLY ONLY 10 YEAR  COST PROTECTION. SO AND  OFFICIAL BONDS IN A MARKET  WHERE RATES ARE HIGHER THAN  YOU EVER WANTED TO BE.  PROBABLY GET AN UP AND THOSE  LIKE YOUR HOME OR WHATEVER.  NEED IS IS ALWAYS FACTOR, BUT  IT STARTS MARKET.  >> YOU KNOW LIKE STEVE SAID  NEED IS ILLEGAL DETERMINATION  AS WELL YOU HAVE TO ASK OF YOU  YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S IT NEEDED  FOR SERVING THE COMMUNITY.  >> BUT IT'S ALSO  APPROPRIATENESS OF OF THAT HAS  7 OF THAT IMPROVEMENT WHETHER  IT'S INFRASTRUCTURE OR THE  PUBLIC SO SO THERE'S THAT  PIECE. FROM AN ECONOMIC  STANDPOINT, WHAT IS THE  FORECAST. WHAT ARE WE BUILDING  TOO WHERE ARE THOSE REVENUES  TO YOU KNOW THESE TYPES OF  ASSETS ARE MULTI-GENERATIONAL  ASSETS THAT WILL HAVE YOU KNOW  A VERY STRONG CASE TO BE  FUNDED. IT ALSO HAS A VERY  STRONG CREDIT BECAUSE YOU NEED  TO POLICE SO YEAH, THIS ISN'T  A PARK PROJECT PUT THE BUDGET  FIELDS AND STUFF WHICH WE LOVE  NASA TO THE COMMUNITY BUT YET  THAT COULD GO AWAY AND YOU  COULD STILL SAID SO SO  SENSUALITY IS ALSO A KEY.  PIECE OF THIS AND THEN  AFFORDABILITY SO IS THIS  AFFORDABLE IF YOU KNOW IT THE  PROJECTED GROWTH IF YOU DON'T  GET THE REVENUE INCREASES OVER  TIME THE THAT ARE ANTICIPATED  WHICH IS WHY YOU THAT IS  TYPICALLY VERY CONCERT. SO YOU  IT ISSUE TO WHAT YOU CAN FOR  TODAY WITH AN EXPECTATION THAT  IT'S PAID FOR OVER THE NEXT 30  YEARS.  >> YOU HAD MENTIONED 25 YEAR  CALL. THEY CALL I'M SORRY  TENURE IT WITH TYPICAL OF THE  MEETING ALL THAT SPACE SO. I  SIMPLISTIC TERMS 10 YOUR CALL  IS LIKE A 10 YEAR PERIOD TO  REPAY.  >> SO SO WHAT HAPPENS IF 30  YEAR BOND ISSUE THAT YOU DO  PEOPLE BUYING THEY WANT THEY  WANT TO BE PROTECTED FOR SOME  PERIOD OF TIME LET THAT GO PAY  THEM OFF EARLY, YOU KNOW LIKE  YOUR HOME CAN TO IT. AND UP  NEXT YEAR IF YOU WANT TO PAID  OFF THE MARK. THE IT'S  TYPICALLY 10 YOUR CALL TO  ACTION MEANING THAT IF YOU  SHOULD FORGIVE YOU CAN'T  REALLY THEM. AND SO THEY GET  FAR.  >> I REMEMBER READING THAT SO  HEARING IT AND IT'S A CONNECT  THE DOT FOR THANK I LOVE YOU,  BUT I DO HAVE I'LL NEED  ANOTHER ROUND.  >> COMMISSIONER AND BIRCH ARE  YOU THERE WE DO HAVE  QUESTIONS.  >> YES, THE GENTLEMAN THAT  STATED THAT WE'RE REALLY NOT  UP TO SNUFF IN THE AREA WITH  OUR CHARTER COMPARED TO OTHER  AREAS. COMMISSIONER STOKES  BROUGHT UP THE LEASE OPTION.  WHAT WE HAVE DO WITH THE  CHARTER AMENDMENT TO BE ABLE  TO FIT THAT INTO OUR LEASE  OPTION CATEGORIES IN THE  CHARTER.  >> I I THINK THE QUESTION IS  WE'RE NOT EXACTLY SURE WHAT  THE CHARTER PROVISION MEANS  WITH REGARD TO SOMETHING LIKE  LEASE PURCHASE. SAYS BALL  >> DON'T HAVE IT FOR ME WITH  THAT BUT BART MY CONTRACT AN  ISSUE REVENUE BONDS  DELEGATION, BONDS AND THEN THE  NEXT SENTENCE GOES ON TO SAY  BUT TO DO GENERAL OBLIGATION  BOND A REVENUE BOND YOU HAVE  TO HAVE A VOTER. YES  REFERENDUM. WE JUST DON'T KNOW  WHERE LEASE PURCHASE WOULD FIT  INTO THAT AND I DON'T THINK  IT'S ADVISABLE TO THE CITY TO  GO THAT KIND OF TRANSACTION  WITHOUT AND THAT'S WHY WE  WOULD RECOMMEND IF YOU DID THE  LEASE PURCHASE. YOU COULD DO  ALL OF IT. DURING THE COURSE  OF A MAN IF YOU WANT TO GO IN  AND THEN THE CHARTER YOU COULD  MAKE IT CLEAR WE'VE GOT A  MILLION OPTIONS OBVIOUSLY WHAT  IF YOU WANT TO REVISE THE  CHARTER. BUT YOU COULD MAKE IT  CLEAR THAT SOMETHING LIKE A  LEASE PURCHASE WAS ALLOWABLE  WITHOUT A REFERENDUM. YOU CAN  THANK YOU COULD CLARIFY SOME  THINGS IN YOUR CHARTER.  OPTIONS RIGHT  >> BUT THEN AGAIN, YOU KNOW  WITHOUT A VOTER AND JUST  REFERENDUM, THEN THE CITIZENS  WOULD HAVE THE THE SAY IN IT  SO YOU KNOW BY GOING AROUND  THEIR BACKS JUST SEEMS A  LITTLE SNEAKY I JUST WANTED TO  KNOW IF THAT WAS AVAILABLE NOW  OR NOT BUT.  >> I I THINK THAT.  >> I THINK IT WOULD BE  AVAILABLE, BUT YOU WOULD HAVE  TO GO BALLAD. I MEAN I DON'T  THINK ANYONE THAT'S BEEN  INVOLVED WITH THE CITY ON THE  BOND SIDE WOULD BE WILLING TO  JUST SAY YES GO TO A LEASE  PURCHASE RIGHT IT DOESN'T  VIOLATE YOUR CHARTER IT'S  ALLOWABLE GO DO IT YOU WANT TO  DO SOMETHING. AND I DON'T  DISAGREE WITH YOU WHAT YOU  JUST SAID THAT I MEAN YOU  KNOW. THIS ISSUE AND ON THE  BAR COUNTY AND IT IN THE EARLY  90'S WITH THEIR BARE.  GOVERNMENT COMPLEX UP THE ERA.  THAT WAS DONE WITH COPS AND  AND THE VOTERS HEART HAPPY  ABOUT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T TO A  BYPASS THE CONSTITUTIONAL  REFERENDUM  >> LIKE THAT'S THAT'S WHAT  WE'RE WORKING TOWARD TOWARDS  TODAY. SIR. THANK YOU VERY JOB  QUESTIONS LATER ON AND DIDN'T  HAVE VERY MUCH FOR THE SEC  SECTION. SO THANK YOU. ALL  RIGHT, MAYOR. HOME. YOU COULD  SPEAK JUST BRIEFLY TO.  >> SHE'LL ON FIRST REVENUE ON  GREAT DIFFERENCE. WHAT ARE YOU  LOOKING AT I MEAN A JOB ON  AGAIN WE'RE GETTING A LITTLE  MY UNDERSTANDING IS.  >> IS THE THE RATE IS IT'S  SOMEWHAT LOWER THAN RECORD AND  ON 1.2 POINTS.  >> BUT IT'S NOT THAT  SIGNIFICANT YOU KNOW WE'RE NOT  TALKING. YOU KNOW A HUGE  DISPARITY IT'S PROBABLY YOU  KNOW.  >> FOR NOTCH.  >> TEND TO 15 BAY SO THEY CAN  LAST MONTH THE MARKETS MOVE 30  BASIS POINTS. SO IT'S. MARKET  MOVEMENT IS MORE OF A RISK  NOTCHING. RISK SO REALLY IT'S  YOU KNOW IT'S EXECUTING IN THE  CAR MARKET AND WHETHER IT'S  YOU KNOW 4.2 7. OR 4 POINT. 1,  9, THE PARENTS ARE GOING TO BE  PRETTY CLOSE.  >> HAVE YOU SPOKEN AT ALL IN  CONNECTION WITH THIS. PROJECT  ANY UNDERWRITERS AT THIS POINT  PREMATURE.  >> YOU KNOW AT THIS POINT IT'S  IT'S REALLY A POLICY DECISION  SO WE WANT US BEGIN THOSE  DISCUSSIONS AND SO PLANT COMES  BACK TO SAY NO WHEN WE FIRST  PLAYED WITH NUMBERS AND AND  THE CONTEMPLATION IS AROUND 85  MILLON WAS LIKE 5035.  >> AND WE LOOK AT I REACH  SOMEWHERE IN THE 6. 6 AND A  HALF PERCENT RANGE WHICH.  >> MY BELIEF WILL PROBABLY BE  A COUPLE OF POINTS HIGHER THAN  IT REALLY WOULD IN THE MARKET  SO I AND DOES HAVE IMPACT ON  HOW WE LOOK AT  >> A COUPLE OF PERCENT THERE.  KNOW IN THE INITIAL ESTIMATE  FOR SAYS WHAT YOU KNOW AN  UNDERWRITER MIGHT. YES AND I  KNOW THEY CAN'T PINPOINT UNTIL  YOU REALLY GET DOWN THE ROAD  BUT YOU KNOW THE DIFFERENCE  FOR 6 AND SIGNIFICANT IN TERMS  OF DOLLARS. YEAH AND IN  DEPENDING ON TIMING YOU KNOW I  BELIEVE.  >> LATE FALL.  >> YOU KNOW MARKET RAN A 130  BASIS POINTS AND 3 SO SO IF  YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A YEAR  FROM NOW OR 2 YEARS OTHERS  TREMENDOUS RATE RISK OF CREDIT  RISK IS MUCH MORE MAGICAL AND  THAT'S THAT'S A TIGER. YOU  KNOW BANDWIDTH. THE MARKET  RISK. BUSH AND GOT. WE TALK A  LITTLE ABOUT.  >> COPS PERSONS LEASE BUT WE  DIDN'T TALK ABOUT FUNDING  SOURCES FOR EACH OF VOTES.  >> AND IT BE GOOD UP FOR  EVERYBODY TO UNDERSTAND THAT  IN A IN A COPS APPROACH. WHAT  DO YOU FOLKSY OUR ABILITY TO  UTILIZE FUND SUCH WHO ARE  FUNDING SUCH A SURTAX MONEY  FOR SAYS. GENERAL FUND NOTES  PROPERTY TAX AS AS OPPOSED TO  A PURCHASE. IF YOU KNOW  ASSUMING ALL THE OTHER THING  PIECE TOO. OPTIONS HAVE IMPACT  WITH REGARD TO WHAT FUNDING  SOURCES HUMANS. SHE COULD. BUT  I THINK.  >> UNDER THE COPS OR THE LEASE  PURCHASE I THINK YOU'VE GOT  FLEXIBILITY TO USE WHAT YOU  WANT AND THEN WAY BECAUSE IT'S  A YEAR TO YEAR. WHAT YOU CAN  SAY IT'S ALL LEGALLY AVAILABLE  MONEY, IT'S WHATEVER THAT MAY  BE YOU COULD LIMITED TO NOT  ADD THE WAR AS YOU KNOW  LEGALLY AVAILABLE NOT WAR, BUT  YOU COULD LIMIT IT TO A  SPECIFIC REVENUE SOURCE, IF  YOU WANT TO. TRADITIONALLY IN  THE SCHOOL BOARD ARENA USING  BOTH IT'S ALL LEGALLY  AVAILABLE MONEY WHICH COULD BE  PROPERTY TAXES OR ANY OTHER  MONIES. THEY MAY HAVE SOME OF  THEM GET SHARES OF SALES  SURTAX WELL SO THEY HAVE TO BE  CAREFUL THAT IT'S LEAST A  PROJECT THAT IS AUTHORIZED TO  BE FINANCED WITH THAT.  >> FROM A LENDER STANDPOINT  CONSIDERING THE FACT THAT ON  THE ONE HAND. YOU HAVE. A  LOCAL SOURCE OF GENERAL  REVENUE UP A PROPERTY TAX ON  THE OTHER HAND TO SURE TAX  BUCKET.  >> WHICH IS A 15 YEAR LICENSED  OR NOT EXIST ANY SURTAX FUNDS  BEYOND THE EXISTING ONE. HOW  WOULD THAT. AND HOW WOULD THAT  AFFECT THE LENDERS PERSPECTIVE  AND POSSIBLY THE RATE. HOW  COMPLICATED WITH THINK AND HOW  COPE WITH THAT GUY.  >> YEAH, IT'S IT. IT'S  CHALLENGE THE MORE.  >> YOU KNOW.  >> MORE YOU HAVE ON THE TREE  MORE EXPENSIVE THE TREE SAY SO  YOU KNOW ONCE YOU HAVE OVERALL  APPROACH YOU KNOW WE'VE GOT  THIS TAX FOR 15 YEARS. WE  THINK IT WILL GET EXTENDED,  BUT IF IT DOESN'T THEN YOU'LL  GET MONEY FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE  THAT'S JUST AN ELEMENT OF RISK  THE KITS, YEAH FACTORED INTO  THE CREDIT ANALYSIS. SO  THERE'S A PROMISE TO PAY WHICH  IS IT'S SORT OF WHAT YOU'RE  GIVING WITH THE REVENUE PLEDGE  AND THAT WITH AN APPROPRIATION  IT'S A PROMISE TO HAVE INTENT  TO PAY WHICH. THOSE ANNUAL  RISK PROCESS THAT VALUE  WEIGHTED PRICED APPROPRIATELY  RIGHT SO.  >> SO IN OUR CASE EVEN IF WE  DID 2 TYPES BONDS TO COME UP  WITH A. A TOTAL PACKAGE OF  FUNDING. THE REALITY IS THAT.  ANYTHING THAT UTILIZE SHOULD  TAX WHICH CERTAINLY BE  CONSIDERED. A DIFFERENT NATURE  AND HOW. SEE IT. WE'VE HAD 4  SHOULD TAX APPROVALS BUT  THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT  THERE WOULD BE A SHIFT. ONE  CAN A PROFIT CAME YOU KNOW,  ALSO FINDS ON. THE REALITY  WHETHER THERE WILL BE OR BUT  THE REALITY IS THERE ISN'T AT  THIS POINT TIME CITIZENS HAVE  TO VOTE ON IT. SO. ANY PORTION  OF THE DEBT THAT WHEN. WAS  PLACED FOR. A PORTION OR ALL  OF THIS PROJECT IT WOULD HAVE  TO BE AMORTIZED SAY SOME 50  YEAR PERIOD. WHERE COULD YOU  EVER TYSON OVER 30 YEARS WITH  THE UNDERSTANDING THAT IF  THERE WAS NO SURTAX 5 CITY  WOULD BE OBLIGATED TO SHIFT  AND I GUESS IN IT SHE'LL CASE  MAY MY OWN QUESTION THAT WOULD  BE THE ANSWER REVENUE ON CASE.  IT PROBABLY WOULDN'T.  >> AM I RIGHT SO SO I THINK.  >> YOU KNOW AS A BORROWER. IF  YOU MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THE  LONGER AMORTIZATION FOR  AFFORDABILITY STANDPOINT  KNOWING THAT THERE WILL BE  OTHER DOWN THE ROAD. IF THIS  IS AN AQUATIC CENTER WE'RE  TALKING ABOUT FUNDING WE'RE  TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC POLICE  HEADQUARTERS. SO THERE IS A  DIFFERENT AND THE SENSUALITY  THAT YOU CAN USE ALL THE  REVENUES TO PAYMENTS FOR THIS  PURPOSE. WHEN THAT SURTAX  ROLES IF IT'S NOT EXTENDED. SO  YOU'RE YOU'RE BASKET STILL  STRONG BASKET. IT'S JUST IT'S  JUST ANOTHER PIECE TO THE  STORY GETS FACTORED INTO THE.  TO THE CREDIT HOUSES.  >> BUT BUT I WOULD SAY FROM MY  EXPERIENCE ONE OF THE THINGS I  THINK YOU'RE GETTING AT IS  THAT IF YOU DID A BOND ISSUE  THAT WAS. BUT JUST THE SURTAX  THAT'S WHY SECURITY THAT I'M  GOING TO GET THE BONDHOLDERS  YOU WOULDN'T WANT TO HAVE A  MATURITY LONGER THAN 15 YEARS.  YOU WOULD HAVE TO SELL IT. SO  WOULD BE IF IF HAVE TO HAVE A  15 YEAR I THINK COUNTIES GO  THROUGH THAT RIGHT DOING A  SURTAX BOND ISSUE AND AND ITS  ITS 15 YEAR TRANSACTION. SO  NOW MY FINAL QUESTION.  >> TO ESTEEM GENTLEMEN. WE  MORE EXPERTISE AND KNOWLEDGE  STAND. THE ENTIRE ROOM  COMBINED. WHAT SUGGESTIONS  WHAT RECOMMENDATIONS HAPPENS  TO HOW WE PROCEED. KNOWING  WHAT OUR NEEDS KNOWING WHERE  WE SIT FINANCIALLY YOU TO  PROBABLY HAVE A BETTER INSIGHT  NOTES ANYBODY ELSE HERE AND BY  GOD I CERTAINLY WANT TO  UNDERSTAND WHAT OUR SUBJECT  MATTER EXPERTS RECOMMEND HOW  WOULD PROPOSE. PROCEEDING.  WITH REGARD TO THIS KIND OF A  PROJECT. WE'RE LOOKING AT  REACH 85. A 100 MILLION OR  122 MILLION. WE HAVE THINK.  >> BUT THAT'S A LOADED  QUESTION WALL AND STILL I'M  LIKE SO. AGAIN YOU'VE GOT A  LOT OF OPTIONS HERE THAT'S THE  DIFFICULTY I THINK IS THAT  YOU'VE GOT SO MANY OPTIONS,  YOU KNOW WHETHER IT'S.  >> GOING FOR A CHARTER  REVISION AND WHAT IS THAT  CHARTER REVISION LOOK LIKE WE  TRY TO GO BALLOT IN THE  PURCHASE TRANSACTION. DO WE  JUST TO A REFERENDUM. FOR  BONDS LIKE YOU'VE GOT IN THE  PAST AND SKIP, YOU KNOW YOU  THAT IN CONCERT WITH THE  CHARTER REVISION TO THE  CHARTER VISION. YOU JUST HAVE  A LOT AND AND. I DON'T KNOW  THE MAKEUP CITIZENS AND YOU  BECAUSE A LOT OF THIS HAS TO  DO WITH NOT ONLY POLICY IN  YOUR OWN PHILOSOPHIES BUT  WHAT'S THE MOST LIKELY  SCENARIO THAT TO GET YOU TO  THE END GAME OF WHAT YOU KNOW  IN THE SO YEAH I DON'T I DON'T  KNOW WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST  COURSE.  >> I THINK THE PUCK WHAT  THAT'S THAT'S A LOADED ALLEGE  THERE. IS OFFENDED  >> PUBLIC SEES RESPONSE AND  THIS IS DEFINITELY ILLEGAL.  YOU KNOW LEGAL QUESTION AND  POLICY QUESTION SALES QUESTION  AND THAT'S YOU REFERENDA VERSE  COPS. I MET CESAR ALL THINGS  THAT YOU KNOW ARE SIX-MONTH  TAKE. THAI PLANT SO I THINK  YOU'RE COMING UP WITH THE.  PROJECT AND THE NEED END.  DETERMINE FROM THERE WHAT A  LIKELIHOOD OF SUCCESS FOR  WE'RE GETTING THAT FUNDING  WOULD BE YOU KNOW. NEXT 4.  NOW.  >> FINAL QUESTION IS MY FINAL  QUESTION IS SOME. DO YOU FEEL  I THINK MORE YOU AS FINANCIAL  DO YOU FEEL CLIP WOULD YOU  SUGGEST WE REACH FOR  ADDITIONAL RESOURCE REGARD  REALLY. LIKE DRILLING DOWN ON.  AND WE'LL WORK TO DO SO ALL  THINGS EQUAL WE WORK THROUGH  THE LEGALITIES OF THINGS WE  DETERMINE WHAT THE BEST OPTION  IS WE TAKE THE TEMPERATURE OF  CITIZENRY AND AND I THINK OUR  CITIZENS WE WANT TO BE IN FALL  IN A PART OF THIS  DECISION-MAKING PROCESS BUT  ASSUMING GOES WELL. THE TIRE  MEETS THE ROAD, THE BOTTOM  LINE IS CAN WE AFFORD THIS AS  CITY CAN WE AFFORD TO DO THIS  DO WE HAVE THAT FINANCIAL  WHERE WITH FULL TO MEET THE  OBLIGATIONS UNDER THE STATE  ARE YOU EQUIPPED TO DO IT. WE  NEED TO PUT AN EXTERNAL TEAM  TOGETHER TO DO THIS BECAUSE  WHICH CERTAINLY THINK THIS  PROJECT CAN BE LOOKED AT. YOU  KNOW MICROSCOPE IT. THERE IS  MUCH MORE HERE IN TERMS CITY.  WE HAVE WHILE THIS MAY BE THE  HIGHEST PRIORITY PROJECT MAY  BE SUBJECT TO DISCUSSION. BUT  THEY'RE OR QUITE A NUMBER OF  HUGE PROJECTS IN THE CITY.  TAKE EQUAL WE'RE VERY CLOSE  PRIORITY AND AND MAKING A  DECISION ON ONE SELECTIVE  PRIORITY AS OPPOSED TO SEEING  THE BIGGER PICTURE. YOU KNOW I  GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS LIKE.  WE'RE TRYING TO FIND THE PATH  ONE OF THE MOST DIFFICULT  PROCESSEES HERE WILL BE TO  FINANCIALLY MAP FOR FUTURE TO  DETERMINE. WHAT WE CAN AND  CAN'T DO. IF WE THROW EVERY  RESOURCE THAT WE HAVE THAT ONE  PROJECT WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE  US INTEREST IN CITY'S  PRIORITIES. SO I'M IN VEIN,  WHAT MIGHT YOU SUGGEST TO US  AS A COMMISSION HAS A PATH  FORWARD FROM A FINANCIAL  ANALYSIS STANDPOINT TRYING TO  COME UP WITH A REAL  DETERMINATION. ONE CAN WE  AFFORD AND TO ADD ONLY BOUNCE  A LITTLE PRIORITIES.  >> AND I CAN APPRECIATE THAT  CHALLENGE I THINK TO HAVE  COMFORT FORECASTS AND  PROJECTIONS YOU WANT YOU KNOW  SORT OF BROADER PICTURE THAT  INCLUDES A REVENUE STUDY OR  SOME OTHER KIND OF DEMOGRAPHIC  ANALYSIS FEASIBILITY AND  AFFORDABILITY IT REALLY A LOT  OF THAT DISCUSSION HAPPENS  PUBLIC WORKS AND BUDGET SO  WHETHER IT'S AFFORDABLE. ALL  KINDS OF VOTES DO ALL KINDS OF  REPORTS AND PROJECTIONS AND  STUFF BUT YOU KNOW WE CAN ALSO  TAKE A VERY CONSERVATIVE  APPROACH IN SHOW. IT WHAT THE  SENSITIVITY IS IF IF YOU GET  POPULATION GROWTH THAT. 7%  SAID THE 15% THERE WERE YOU  KNOW WE CAN MODEL ALL THAT AND  RUN ALL THAT TO GIVE STAFF  TOUGHER THE PLAN OF FINANCE IS  DOABLE WE HAVE TO DO THAT  BEFORE WE GO. SO RAY SAYS  FORGET FAST OR IT'S FOR THE  BEST. SO THAT'S PART OF THE  PROCESS  >> BUT OBVIOUSLY HAVING A NEW  REVENUE SOURCE IF YOU ARE TO  CREATE WANT TO PAY FOR THE  THING THAT. IS HOPED TO THIS  CLEAN THE POST RIGHT SO IF IT  WERE A GOP OF ALL REVENUE  SOURCES INSTEAD OF LOOKING AT  YOUR BASKET AND SEE HOW  THEY'RE GOING TO GROW YOUR  CURRENT BASKET IF YOU HAD THAT  RESONATES NEW REVENUE STREAM.  BUT OF COURSE THAT'S ALSO  SOMETIMES MOST CONTROVERSIAL  WAY FOR FOR THAT. ALL RIGHT  COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL. WELL  SINCE MY.  >> VICE MAYOR STOLE MY  QUESTION. I'M GOING TO  PIGGYBACK IT. AND I DON'T  APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE  CHEAP WAY OUT AND SAY WE JUST  DON'T TOO MANY VARIABLES. I  HEARD YOU SAY THAT.  >> THERE ARE MANY DIFFERENT  FUNDING SOURCES FOR THE COPS  AND.  >> ALL OF THEM ARE LEGALLY  AVAILABLE FOR COPS AND YOU  SPECIFICALLY SAID.  >> I HEARD NON AD VALOREM  TAXES. I WANT TO MAKE SURE IS  THAT CORRECT WHAT DID YOU MEAN  I DON'T THINK YOU'RE THAT I  THINK I SAID THAT YOU COULD  STRUCTURE COPS.  >> ANYWAY WE WANTED TO IT  COULD BE ALL THAT YOU LEGALLY  AVAILABLE HAVE NEWS WEATHER  GOING ON HOME FORM THAT YOU'RE  HERE. WE SURE CAN USE ANY  REVENUE STREAM GOT A REVENUE  SOURCE, YOU HAVE BUT YOU COULD  THERE'S A LOT OF OUR CLIENTS  THAT DO LEAST PURCHASES. ONE  THEM IT NOT AT WAR ROOM. THAT  IN THE OR SOMETIMES EVEN SEEN  IT WHERE THEY IDENTIFY ONE  STORY THAT THEY WANT TO. YOU  WOULD HAVE. MORE MORE OPTIONS  THAT ARE OUT ABOUT HIGH.  >> BECAUSE I FROM THE  BEGINNING OF ALL OF THESE  CONVERSATIONS I IS ASKING CAN  WE DO SOMETHING WITH NON AD  VALOREM NIGHT I THINK IT WAS  MORE TOWARDS OUR I'M SITE AS  OPPOSED COPS WHICH. IS A  DIFFERING.  >> SO ONE OF THE MOST COMMON.  FINANCING VEHICLES FOR BONDS  OR LOANS ARE ANY SORT OF GET  IN THE 10 YEARS. IS NOT  SPECIFIC REVENUE SOURCE LIKE  SALES TAXES. TAX TAXES READ  THE BUT INSTEAD THE LOCAL  GOVERNMENT AGREES THAT EACH  YEAR DURING YOUR BUDGET  PROCESS. YOU WILL APPROPRIATE.  IT SHOULD COME OUT NOT AT  LEVEL IT THAT WHEN IT AND YOU  SIDE INTERNALLY WHERE THAT'S  GOING TO COME FROM EACH YEAR,  OKAY, AND THAT'S NOT THE SAME  AS A LEASE PURCHASE BECAUSE  YOU DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO  WALK AWAY HERE. YOU MIGHT DO A  20 OR 30 YEAR-OLD 30 YEAR DEAL  WHERE ALL YOU AGREED TO DO IT  EACH YEAR. APPROPRIATE ENOUGH  NOT ARMS TO PAY THE DEBT AND  THAT'S PROBABLY GOTTEN THE  MOST COMMON. FORMER GENERAL  FUND FINANCING TRYING TO  THINK.  >> NOW WOULD BE THE TIME TO  TALK ABOUT THIS. RECENTLY I  HAD TO GO TO CHARLOTTE  COUNTY'S WEBSITE FOR THEIR  PROPERTY TAXES GET A FEEL.  >> WHAT THEY PAID FOR  CHARLOTTE COUNTY. AND I SAW ON  THERE.  >> TAX.  >> AND LITTLE ORME LAUREN  TAXES WHICH IS NOT THERE'S A  SEPARATE LINE ITEM THAT'S  CALLED LAW ENFORCE IT.  >> AND I AM SHERRI IF. BECAUSE  THERE'S DISTINCT DIFFERENCE  BETWEEN CHARLOTTE COUNTY. CITY  OF NORTH PORT WHICH IS  MUNICIPALITY. AND THE CITY  OF NORTH PORT. POSSIBLY DO.  VALOREM TAX FOR LAW  ENFORCEMENT.  >> I DO DON'T KNOW HOW THAT  CAME ABOUT CHARLOTTE. LIKE A  STRAW BALLOT WITH A HEAD OF  COMMISSION.  >> I JUST SIGNED ON THEIR AD  VALOREM TAXING ABILITY THEY  PAY 2.4 TO 3 TO 0 MILLS. FOR  LAW ENFORCEMENT.  >> THAT WAS JUST PART OF THEIR  PROCESS BUDGETING THEY DECIDED  TO COME UP WITH A WAY THAT I  DON'T KNOW.  >> IT REALLY MIGHT NEED TO  LOOKED AT AS. AND WE DO IT CAN  WE NOT DO IT IS IT A SEPARATE  ITEM COMPARED TO BILL THAT YOU  GET DO IT, YOU ALL THE ISSUES  THAT ONE OF THE PAY FROM SO I  HAVE A REFERENDUM THAT.  >> AND THAT WAS GOING TO BE  NEXT NOW IF YOU DIDN'T COPS  TRANSACTION A LEASE PURCHASE  YOUR YEARLY GOT A COURT TO SAY  THAT'S NOT THAT FOR PURPOSES  OF YOUR CHARTER. YOU COULD USE  THAT MILEAGE EACH YEAR JUST  COULDN'T. SETH AND WONDERED  YOU KNOW. POLICE MAKES OP.  EXORBITANT AMOUNT OF OUR  GENERAL FUND AND IF YOU COULD  SHOW.  >> THIS IS HOW MUCH THE POLICE  MILLAGE WOULD MUCH EASIER SELL  FOR CITIZENS UNDERSTAND AND  THEN. MONEY. ACCORDINGLY FOR  PD SPECIFIC.  >> YEAH, AND THAT KIND OF  DOVETAILS WITH THE REVENUE  STUDY THAT SHOWS YOU KNOW OUR  DISTRICT ASSESSMENT OR. POLICE  ASSESSMENT OR OR SOMETHING TO  THAT EFFECT SO SO THERE  POLICIES THAT HAVE THOSE  SUSSMAN SOME PLACE. THAT WILL  COME OUT THE STUDY WITH  RECOMMENDATION.  >> DEPENDING ON WHAT WE DECIDE  TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS  POLICY.  >> ASSUMING THEY'RE SOME TYPE  OF DEBT IT'S GOING TO BE  ISSUED FOR THE POLICE  DEPARTMENT. WHAT'S REALISTIC  TIME FOR. SO LET'S SAY A  DECISION IS MADE WITHIN 30  DAYS FINAL DECISION THIS IS  WHAT WE'RE DOING. THAT KICKING  THIS CAN DOWN THE ROAD WE'RE  GOING TO MOVE FORWARD. THIS IS  WHAT WORRY DECIDED TO DO ISSUE  SOME KIND OF WEATHERS G OR  REVENUE UNKNOWN. HOW LONG OF  PROCESS WOULD YOU SAY THAT'S  GOING TO TAKE. FROM TIME WE  MAKE THAT DECISION UNTIL WE  CAN GO TO THE VOTERS. AND THEN  PROCEED WITH CONSTRUCTION.  >> WE HAVE THE KIDS THE VOTERS  YOU HAVE TO HAVE A REFERENDUM  IN NOVEMBER, ONCE THAT'S  APPROVED YOU KNOW THAT WOULD  YOU KNOW OR JUST ANOTHER OR  REVENUE STREAMS SURTAX. WE'LL  GET 5 GET DEAL DONE IN 6090  DAYS. SO THAT IS AS SOON WE  GOT THE RESULTS BACK AND. YOU  KNOW WE COULD START MOVING.  >> AND IF WE GO WITH COPS,  IT'S A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME  SUBJECT TO POTENTIAL  VALIDATION. CRITERION  >> THE COPS YOU CAN START  TOMORROW. AND THAT YOU COULD.  BECAUSE WE WOULD RECOMMEND YOU  VALIDATE IT DOES AFFECT VOTERS  ARE AT LEAST OUR APPROACH THAT  WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE. IS  THAT YOU COULD START TOMORROW  THAT CREEK POLICE IN COURT  THAT THE YOU KNOW, AND ALL  THOSE THINGS ARE KIND OF  PERFUNCTORY. AND START GETTING  THE DOCUMENTS TOGETHER AND YOU  HAVE TO COME BACK AND APPROVE  THE TRANSACTION FOR THE  POLICE. SO A T. AND THEN YOU  HAVE TO GO BEFORE A SO THAT.  WHILE 60 TO 90 DAYS BY THE  TIME YOU KNOW. YOU COULD YOU  COULD PROBABLY BEFORE CIRCUIT  COURT LIKE I SAID WITHIN. 60  TO 90 DAYS,  >> IF WE WERE TO MAKE THE  DECISION TODAY. AND THEN YOU  GUYS HAVE YOUR MARCHING ORDERS  AND POSSIBLY WITH THE COPS.  >> WE WOULD STILL HAVE TO GET  SOME LEGAL YOU KNOW PROVED BY  COMMISSION THAT THE LEASE IN  COURT, YOU KNOW I DO THAT I  THINK YOU GUYS HAVE TO ME  CREATE THE CORPORATION AND YOU  BE THE ELECTED BODY OF THE  BOARD OF DIRECTORS.  >> OF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES OF  THE SUPERVISORS OF  >> WE THINK AND YET THEN WE  WOULD END UP HAVING TO. THAT  THAT DOCUMENT A LEASE PURCHASE  DOCUMENTS AND THEN YOU WOULD  HAVE TO PROVE ALL THOSE. SO  ROAD. AND THEN ONCE THOSE WERE  APPROVED. FOR NOT TO EXCEED  BAR ABOUT OR AT LEAST PURCHASE  NOW. WE DIDN'T TAKE THAT TOO.  THE CIRCUIT COURT. I'LL COME  PLAY THEY DO A DOCKET. SEE HOW  THAT GOES. NO PROMISES ABOUT.  >> YOU KNOW JUDGMENT LOOK AT  YOUR CHART AND THAT IT  WOULDN'T SO OR YOU GET THERE  BEFORE SAID IN TERMS THOSE SO  WHAT KNOW HOW THAT WOULD  >> SOUNDS LIKE THE CLEAREST.  >> MOST.  >> WHAT ADDICTIVE YEAH, IT'S  GREAT THANK YOU THE MOST  PREDICTABLE PATH IS TO JUST  ISSUE A BOND AND GO BEFORE THE  VOTERS AND MOVE FORWARD. THAT  WE CAN HAVE DON'T BY NOVEMBER.  THANK YOU FOR THAT WORD THAT  IS ABSOLUTELY THE WORD THAT I  WAS LOOKING FOR THANK YOU.  OKAY COMMISSIONER. I FUNDS  COMMISSIONER LANGDON JUST A  COUPLE OF QUICK THINGS AND I  APOLOGIZE VICE JUST THE  PERFECT QUESTIONS TO KIND OF  SUMMARIZE THE CONVERSATION AND  MOVE US FORWARD THAT.  >> I STILL HAVE A COUPLE OF  THE ADDITIONAL VERY SPECIFIC  SO COPS BOARD SUBJECT TO  SUNSHINE.  >> THEY'RE KIND OF ACTING ON  BEHALF ON BEHALF OKAY. WE  TALKED ABOUT CREDIT RATING AND  BOND RATING, HOW THAT FACTORS  INTO THE WHOLE SCENARIO. I  THINK MOST OF US WHO AREN'T  IN. SO EXALTED FINANCIAL AREAS  ARE FAMILIAR WITH OTHER KINDS  OF RATIOS LIKE DEBT TO INCOME  AND THAT KIND OF THING ARE  THERE OTHER RATIO LIKE  STRUCTURES.  >> THAT OF A BOND.  >> POTENTIAL BOND PURCHASER  WOULD LOOK SURE THERE'S WE  LOVE END ALL. BUT YOU KNOW IT  LIKE LIKES YOU MENTIONED, YEAH  THERE'S A FICO SCORE IF YOU'RE  AN 800. YOU KNOW YOU'RE  DOUBLE-A PLUS YOUR  NEIGHBORHOOD YOUR AAA WELL, SO  LIKE I THINK HERE IN THAT CASE  YOUR TO INCOME IS PROBABLY 10%  OR LESS OR WHATEVER SO WE HAVE  COVERAGE SO WE HAVE THAT  SERVICE COVERAGE WE ON BALANCE  YEAR-OVER-YEAR WE HAVE WHETHER  IT'S CENTER REVENUES ARE  PERCENT OF EXPENSES. WE HAVE.  THAT TO TAXPAYER. SO WE  OVERLAPPING LIKE HOW MUCH. HER  SON HER CAPTORS IS PAY TOWARDS  THAT ISN'T SERVICE. YOU KNOW  THAT WE HAVE I WEIGH SHUN  WHAT'S THAT PER. MARKET VALUE.  SO THERE'S SEVERAL OF THOSE  AND THAT THERE'S MANAGEMENT  SCORES. THERE'S YOU KNOW.  METRICS THAT ARE CHALLENGE SO  THE WHOLE MERIT OF YOU ACTUAL  METRICS OPERATING MANAGEMENT  METRICS. AND THEN DEMOGRAPHICS  WHAT ARE THE YOU KNOW HAVE  HAVE YOU. WE COMPARE NORTH  PORT TO OTHER MUNICIPALITIES  THAT IS AVERAGE INCOME PER  YEAR, YOU KNOW ABOVE THE  NATIONAL AVERAGE OR STATE  AVERAGE OR OR WHAT NOT SO SO  LOTS DEMOGRAPHICS IS KIND OF  THE 3RD PIECE OF THAT OKAY  THANK YOU FOR THAT THAT REALLY  FRESH AND SET OUT FOR ME.  >> AND ONE LAST QUESTION SO.  I'M A FINANCIAL ANALYSIS WE  WERE TALKING A LITTLE BIT  ABOUT THAT. I JUST WANT TO BE  CLEAR WHAT'S THE. WHAT ABOUT  FINANCIAL ANALYSIS IS THAT.  YES YOU CAN AND CANNOT AFFORD  TO DO THIS AND HE'S THE RISK  OR IS IT DEEPER THAN THAT  YOU'RE NOT.  >> YOU SHOULD BE CHARGING THIS  FOR YOUR MILEAGE YOU SHOULD BE  CHARGING THIS FOR YOUR FEES.  >> YOU'RE TOO HIGH OR TOO LOVE  DOES IT GET DOWN TO THAT RENEW  LOWER LEVEL.  >> IT DOES GET TO THAT LEVEL  BUT IT'S MORE OF A REACTION TO  WHAT THE ASK IS SO.  >> WHEN WE KNOW YOU KNOW.  >> THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT  KNOW THE AMOUNT WE KNOW THE  TERM OR ADVERTISING AND WE  KNOW THE TAX YOUR TAXES OR  REPAYMENT SOURCE YOU ONCE WE  HAVE THOSE PIECES. YOU KNOW WE  CAN ALL GET SO CREATIVE WITH  WHAT THE PAYMENTS ARE GOING TO  BE WHAT THE FINANCIAL IMPACT  IS GOING TO BE TO THE CITY  RIGHT SO WOULD BE TO AFFORD.  >> THAT PROJECT WE WOULD NEED  TO DO THESE KINDS OF THINGS  WITH YOUR MILEAGE THE  STRUCTURES WITH YOUR IMPACT  FEES IS IT'S IT'S A VERY  LINEAR OUTPUT, OKAY.  >> ANSWER QUESTION WHETHER  IT'S 1.2 MILLS ARE WHAT NOT 5  MILLS OR WHATNOT. ALL RIGHT.  >> I'M DONE. OKAY, I JUST HAD  A QUICK ONE FOR MISTER MILLER  AND VERY BEGINNING YOU HAD  MADE A STATEMENT SOMETHING  ALONG THE LINES OF WE HAVE.  LIKE WE HAVE THE MOST  RESTRICTIVE PROVISION IN OUR  CHARTER AND YOU'VE SEEN THIS  IN THE STATE IS THAT WE HAVE  SAID AS FAR AS THE CITY  GOVERNMENT BEING ABLE TO.  BORROW MONEY OR THE NEEDS OF  THE CITIZENS.  >> I'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR OVER  32 YEARS IN THE STATE AND I  HAVEN'T SEEN THE CHARRED THIS  RESTRICTIVE AND IT'S  UNFORTUNATE BECAUSE I KNOW YOU  GUYS HAVE A GROWING CITY. VERY  LARGE CITY ONE OF THE TOP 5 I  THINK IN STATE YOU GRAPHICALLY  A LOT OF NEEDS AND IT'S YOU  KNOW IT'S HAMSTRUNG CITY FOR A  LONG TIME. AND ALSO UNDERSTAND  THE CITIZENRY THAT YOU KNOW.  THEY HAVE THIS AS SOMETHING IN  THE CHARTER AND AND DON'T WANT  PEOPLE RUN AMOK WITH BUT.  >> IT'S HARD TO ARE GOING TO  MAKE I PART TO PROVIDE ALL THE  NEEDS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE A  CITY WITH WHEN THE CHARTER  PROVISION IS IT SAFE TO SAY  THAT THOSE OTHER ALL THOSE  OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AND  COUNTIES I GUESS THAT WHATEVER  CAN DO THIS THAT.  >> THAT IS I REALLY IMPORTANT  TOOL WHEN THEY DO EXPERIENCE.  WE DIDN'T COUNT ON THIS WEEK.  THIS IS OUR OUR LINE AND ALL  OF A AND WITHOUT BEING YOU  KNOW YOU KNOW AND A LLAMA, BUT  WE ARE NOW.  >> BUT I ALSO HAVE SOME CITY  AND COUNTY CLIENTS THAT  RECOGNIZE THAT A LOT OF THE  ASSETS THAT THEY'RE PRODUCING  AND WANT TO PRODUCE ARE 4050  YEARS ASSETS. AND THEY DON'T  FIND IT FAIR THAT THE PEOPLE  THAT ARE LIVING HERE NOW ARE  THE ONES THAT HAVE TO PAY FOR  ALL THAT USE MANAGEABLE YOU  THAT YOU KNOW IT'S NOT. GOING  CRAZY BUT BUT PRUDENT USE OF  THAT YOU ALLOW PEOPLE WHO MOVE  IN 5 YEARS FROM NOW 10 YEARS  1520 PAY THEIR SHARE THE COST  OF THOSE ASSETS.  >> I MAY INTERJECT MAYOR,  ATTORNEY MILLER AND I HAVE  BEEN ON MANY MANY CALLS IN THE  8 YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN WITH  THE CITY WHERE THIS CHARTER  PROVISION WAS IMPLICATED, YOU  KNOW IT BECAME. I HEARD  IMPEDIMENT TO SOME OF THE  POTENTIAL OPTIONS FOR THE  CITY. AND AT LEAST FROM MY  PERSPECTIVE, THE MOST LEGALLY  PROFESSIONALLY AND PERSONALLY  PAINFUL CALLED WAS ONE THAT WE  HAD DURING THE TO HURRICANE  AND YOU KNOW WE WERE CONCERNED  THAT THE CITY MAY NOT HAVE  AMPLE RESOURCES TO FRONT THE  MONEY MORE. TO START  COLLECTING DEBRIS. YOU KNOW  WHEN IT COMES TO DISASTER  RECOVERY WITH DIFFERENT THE  MONEY AND BALL. REMEMBER YOU  KNOW YOU'RE GOING PRESENT  RIGHT BUT YOU UP FRONT. WE HAD  A VERY DIFFICULT CALL STEEP  WAS ON THAT CALL AS WELL  LEADERS AND INTERNALLY AND  EXTERNALLY TRYING TO FIGURE  OUT IF WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH  MONEY. HOW CAN WE GET THE  MONEY THAT WE NEED TAKE CARE  OF THE CITY DURING THIS TIME  OF DISASTER AND THAT CHARTER  PROVISION THAT INSTANCE WAS AN  IMPEDIMENT ANSWER IS. WE'RE  NOT SURE LEGALLY THAT WE CAN  WE NEED HAVE A IT WAS PUT IN  WHEN THAT THE SLEEPY LITTLE  TOWN RIGHT. YOU KNOW RIGHT.  >> AND EVEN THERE ARE OTHER  GENERAL DEVELOPMENT WE REFER  AS OUR SISTER CITIES BUT THEY  DON'T DAY HAVE TO SAY THEY  WILL KIND TAKEN THAT DON'T  HAVE THAT RIGHT REVISION  RIGHT. RIGHT AND I APPRECIATE  YOU ALSO BRINGING UP THAT.  HAVING A BOND SPREADS OUT THAT  THAT FINANCIAL OBLIGATION THAT  IT ISN'T JUST PUT ON ONE  SECTOR OF THE POPULATION. IT'S  HERE NOW THAT ANYBODY WHO  COMES IS ALSO GOING TO SHARE.  AND THAT SO. I APPRECIATE  THAT.  >> COMMISSIONER AVERAGE DID  YOU HAVE ANYTHING. I WANT TO  THINK WE FORGOT ABOUT  >> NO MA'AM I'M GOOD ON THAT  SIDE.  >> OKAY AND I'M I'M TRUSTING  THAT YOU WILL INTERJECT AND  SAY SOMETHING IF I IF YOU  OKAY.  >> YEAH, I'LL GIVE YOU A SHOUT  IF I WANT TO JUMP IN.  >> OKAY. THANK YOU. VICE  MAYOR.  >> MAYOR THANK YOU FOR SHED  SOME LIGHT ON THAT. I WAS  ALWAYS GOING 100 AT 9 OH OKAY.  SO HARD TO DO IT'S MAYOR AND I  HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT REALLY  SOMETHING THAT NEEDED TO  SPOTLIGHT ON FOR THOSE WHO ARE  LISTENING BECAUSE. TRUTHFULLY  THAT IS THE ESSENCE OF LEADS  TO THE SEGWAY I WANT CITY  MANAGER DO. WHAT WOULD BE OUR  NEXT STEP THAT WE WANTED YOU  WOULD MENTION THERE WERE 3  SECTIONS TO THIS YES THIS  MEETING HERE. AND I'M  WONDERING WE WANT TO SEGUE  INTO DISCUSSIONS. REFERENDUMS  OR DO WE WANT TO STAY FOCUSED  ON THE POLICE CAN HOW WE MIGHT  APPROACH WHERE WE WANT THIS TO  GO NEXT. IT'S THAT I SMEAR.  >> IF TALK ABOUT THIS UPPER  FRONT YOU HAVE THAT AS A TOPIC  IN INTRODUCED IT IN. ALTHOUGH  THERE'S A FAMILY BUT SOME  POINT WELL IT WILL HELP YOU.  AS YOU DECIDE WHAT YOU WANT  YOUR CHARTER AMENDMENT TO BE  AS WE GET TO THE FINAL STEPS  UP YOUR.  >> ASKED IF YOU MAKE ANY  DECISIONS  >> NO BECAUSE. AGAIN. FOCUSING  ON A CHARTER AMENDMENT.  TRADITIONALLY AND YOU GUYS CAN  JUMP IN AND VALIDATE OR  CRITIQUE. MY PERSPECTIVE, BUT  BUT IT'S A LITTLE BACKDROP AND  BACKGROUND TO THIS YOU KNOW  TRADITIONALLY ALMOST EVERY  MUNICIPALITY COUNTY EVERY  MUNICIPAL AND COUNTY IN THE  STATE HAS BORROWED SO AS I'M  SORRY WHAT ABILITY TO HER DEBT  BORROWING ABILITY TO GO OUT  THERE AND.  >> AND ISSUE DEBT. WAY TO DO  THAT IN OUR CITY WOULD BE TO  LITERALLY USE THE COUNTY AS AN  EXAMPLE. NOW THEY HAVE A  2 BILLION DOLLAR BUDGET I  BELIEVE, BUT YOU KNOW THEY  HAVE A 28 MILLION DOLLAR PER.  PROJECT IN WHICH THEY CAN  BORROW AND AND CITY  COMMISSIONER COUNTY COMMISSION  DECIDES IT WANTS TO MOVE  FORWARD ON THE PROJECT AND  THEN IT MAKES THAT DECISION  THAT WILL SUPPORT. FOR US TO  CHANGE OUR CHARTER WE WOULD.  BUT TOGETHER LANGUAGE SIMILAR  TO AND GO OUT WHETHER IT'S  20 MILLION 50 1 MILLION  WHATEVER THAT NUMBER MIGHT BE  AND AND WE THAT WOULD  TRADITIONALLY HOW WE MIGHT  APPROACH CHARTER AMENDMENT. IN  DISCUSSIONS WITH MISTER MILES  SINCE HE WAS BOND COUNCIL UP  IN NEW YORK QUITE A NUMBER  YEARS AND IT'S A VALUABLE  ASSET TO WAR. OUR CITY  GOVERNMENT. I BECAME AWARE OF.  THIS A PREFERENCE. FOR MISTER  REFERENDUMS KIND OF LIKE IT'S  A BABY STEP MAYBE I WOULD SAY  BETWEEN WHERE WE ARE AND WHERE  EVERYBODY ELSE IS. AND FOR  PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW WHAT IT  BASICALLY DOES HE SAY THAT A  MUNICIPALITY OUR CASE  SPALLETTI COULD. IT'S PROJECT  THAT NEEDED. LET'S SAY IT WAS.  WHAT ARE STRUCTURES WE NEEDED  10 MILLION DOLLARS. AND WE  WOULD MAKE A DECISION INFO  THAT WE NEEDED TO GO OUT AND  BORROW MONEY. TOO. HEY THIS  FOR THIS PROJECT. PERMISSIVE  REFERENDUM. IF THAT WERE IN  PLACE THAT CHARTER MEMBER ARE  IN PLACE CITIZENRY WOULD HAVE  A SURE ENOUGH TIME TO BE  DETERMINED AS PART OF CHARTER  AMENDMENT WHETHER IT'S 3060 90  DAYS. IT WOULD BE A PERCENTAGE  OF THE VOTING POPULATION  CITIZENRY. WHETHER IT BE 5, 7,  8.10% WHO COULD WITHIN THAT  WINDOW OF TIME PUT TOGETHER A.  TO SUBMIT TO THE CITY THAT  FOREST. EVEN THAT ASK TO.  PUBLIC REFERENDUM. ALLOW  CITIZENRY TO RETAIN ITS  CONTROL. OVER THE ULTIMATE  SPENDING OF DOLLARS. WHAT ARE  STRUCTURES IN THE CITIZEN 3  SAY WELL COURSE WE GOT TO HAVE  THOSE STRUCTURES. WE DON'T  HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS TO THIS IS  SO GOOD PROJECT. IT DOESN'T DO  ITS PETITION CITY CAN MOVE  FORWARD SAFES TIME STATES  MONEY AND EXPEDITIOUS APPROACH  IN OUR CITY. WHERE FOR SO  SINCE ITS INCEPTION. OUR  CITIZENRY HAS ENJOYED I  SUPPOSE YOU MIGHT CALL IT  ENJOYED THE ABILITY TO CONTROL  THE PURSE STRINGS. ALL OF  THEM. IT MIGHT BEAT TOUGH TO  LEAVE REGULAR TYPE CHARTER  AMENDMENT. EVERY SCENE THE  OTHER DILEMMA IN A PERMISSIVE  REFERENDUM WOULD BE THAT WE  MIGHT JUST BE CREATING AN  ENVIRONMENT WHERE EVERY SINGLE  PROJECT BECAME A CONTROVERSIAL  APPROACH AND A CONTROVERSIAL  ISSUE IN THE CITY EVERYONE  WOULD BE DEBATED EVERYONE  WOULD CARRY ON AND. MOST  LIKELY OR POSSIBLY IN EVERY  CASE A GROUP OF CITIZENS WILL  GET TOGETHER ENOUGH. PETITION  SIGNATURES TO FORCE IT. OUT  THERE SO. I KINDA THE CYCLE OF  THIS AND I WOULD BE VERY  INTERESTED, I APPRECIATE  EVERYBODY LISTENED THROUGH  THIS LONG WINDED EXPLANATION  AS MAYBE SOME PEOPLE DON'T  KNOW ABOUT YOU KNOW I DIDN'T  KNOW ABOUT BUT I'D LOVE TO  HEAR YOU GUYS CAUGHT UP ON TO  FAKE A LITTLE ABOUT THESE 2  THINGS AND AND WHY IT MIGHT BE  A GOOD IDEA WHAT WOULD BE A  GOOD IDEA WHY WE SHOULD IN  EFFECT SWING FOR FENCES AND  ASKS THE RIGHT TO SAY ASK  WHICH IS WHAT EVERY OTHER.  CITY RIGHT MUNICIPALITY COUNTY  HAS IN THIS STATE. THE ABILITY  TO PUT THE TOOL IN THE TOOL  BOX THAT WE NEED IN ORDER TO  MAINTAIN AND MANAGE WORLD SO.  OR SHORTS. NO I APPRECIATE THE  >> THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE  AND CALLED ME A WHILE AGO  ABOUT IT JUST ASK I'D SEEN IT  AND FRANKLY I AFTER THAT I NOT  SEE FLORIDA EVER AND AND WHAT  I HEARD I DID ASKED SOME OF MY  PARTNERS AND SOME OTHER COME.  THE PATRIOTS IN THE BUSINESS  END. NO ONE ELSE ATTENDANT FOR  EITHER SO. BUT AGAIN THE  LIMITATIONS THIS THIS STYLE OF  ♪ ♪ CHARTER PROVISION. IN THAT  ARENA. I'VE SEEN THAT MUCH  BECAUSE FRANKLY THERE'S NOT A  LOT OF CHARTER PROVISIONS THAT  ADDRESS DEBT MUCH AT ALL OTHER  THAN IT'S GOT TO BE DONE BY  ORDINANCE WERE YOU KNOW YOU'VE  GOT TO DO THIS OR THAT. I MEAN  EVEN SARASOTA OF OUR COUNTY  WHO HAVE LIMITATIONS ON THE  AMOUNT OF DEBT THAT THEY CAN  ISSUE ARE ARE OUTLIERS I MEAN  MOST CITIES AND COUNTIES HAVE  NOTHING IN THEIR CHARGE. AND  SO I THINK IT'S AN INTERESTING  CONCEPT. BUT YOU'RE EXACTLY  RIGHT THOSE 2 GUYS WITH YOUR  FINGER ON THE PULSE OF YOUR  CITIZENRY. IT'S GOING TO BE  MORE. WHICH IS WHICH WOULD  THEY HAVE MORE OF AN APPETITE  FOR YOU KNOW THIS TIGHT FOR  JUST TRYING GO AHEAD AND HAVE  A DEAD ISSUE WITH SOME SORT OF  RESTRICTION ON AND I CAN'T SAY  THAT. I THINK PROCEDURALLY  WANT TO MAKE SURE WHATEVER YOU  DO WHATEVER THAT PROCESS IS  THAT THERE ARE MANY DUE  PROCESS PROBLEMS THAT FOLKS  MAYBE HAVE APPEAL WRITES, YOU  KNOW IF THEIR PETITION GETS  DENIED WHATEVER REASON THAT  YOU KNOW THERE'S IT'S A  PROCESS CERTAINLY AND IT  LEAVES THE DRAFT I SAW A WHILE  AGO SEEM TO BE YOU KNOW A LOT  OF THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND I  ALSO WOULD WANT IT TO BE. AND  AGAIN I THINK IT'S CREATIVE  IDEA THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX  BUT. REFERENDUM QUESTIONS  WHETHER THEIR BOND QUESTIONS  OR CHARTER REVISION QUESTIONS.  CONFUSING THEY ARE YOU KNOW  THE MORE APT THEY ARE TO GET  CHALLENGE AND THIS IS A LITTLE  BIT MORE OR RIGHT AT IT LIKE  YOU SAID BEFORE SO. CERTAINLY  SOMETHING GET OVER, BUT YOU  WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU GET  YOU'RE CAREFUL AND. AND MADE  SURE THE PROCESS WAS FAIR IF  THERE WAS A PROCESS AND MAKE  SURE THE LANGUAGE WAS CLEAR  THE AVERAGE VOTER WOULD  UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE VOTING  ON. BUT NO IT'S AN INTERESTING  IDEA I JUST HAVE NO EXPERIENCE  WITH THAT WHATSOEVER. ALL  RIGHT COMMISSIONER LANGDON.  >> I WAS RESPONDING MORE TO  VICE MAYOR'S QUESTION ABOUT  WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE WE  POLICE HEADQUARTERS ARE WAY  MORE FOCUSING ON. THE GENERAL  CONDITION OF CITY AND WHAT THE  PATH FORWARD FIND AND SHOW  GREAT REPORT OUR ANALYSIS  COULD SET UP HELP US NAVIGATE  ALL OF THAT. AND MY SENSE IS I  THINK WE WE REALLY NEED TO DO  BOTH IN PARALLEL, BUT TO A  CERTAIN DEGREE IT'S A LITTLE  CHICKEN AND THE EGG. WE SORT  OF KNOW WHAT THE POLICE NEEDS  AND WANTS ARE. BUT WE'RE A  LITTLE FUZZIER ON ITS WHAT CAN  WE REALLY AFFORD AND SO THAT  IN MY MIND COMES INTO THE  ABILITY TO BORROW ESSENTIAL  COMPONENT FOR THAT. BUT THE  OTHER ESSENTIAL COMPONENT OF  THAT IS TAKING A LOOK AT THE  CURRENT SITUATION OF THE CITY.  OUR MILLAGE RATE BEFORE 2008  2009 IT WAS 5 POINT SOMETHING  PERCENT WE'RE NOW AT 3 WE SORT  OF NEVER AFTER WE GOT THROUGH  THAT CRASH. SO THAT JUST A  BACKUP THAT IT'S REALLY 5  WHERE IT SHOULD BE I DON'T  KNOW THE ANSWER THAT I  CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO HAVE  CONVERSATION WITH THE  RESIDENTS OF THE CITY PROPERTY  OWNERS IN THE CITY BUT IT'S AN  IMPORTANT ONE IMPACT WEEK WITH  UNDER CHARGED FOR PAST WE HAD  JUST ABOUT 2 YEARS AGO. NO ONE  HAS A WAR CHEST YET. YOU KNOW  IF WE HAD DONE THAT 10 YEARS  AGO THERE MIGHT BE A WAR CHEST  THAT WE COULD DRAW OUR ON FOR  SOME OF THESE I THINK WE NEED  TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THAT  AS PART MOVING FORWARD THAT  FINANCIAL PLAN. WHAT'S OUR  ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY.  PERCENT OF OUR LAND USES  COMMERCIAL NEEDS TO BE 2025%  HOW ARE WE GOING TO GET THERE  WE'RE DOING SOME THINGS. I  THINK AT THIS POINT. I DON'T  KNOW I THINK WE'RE DOING THE  WORK BUT I I SORT OF DON'T  KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND  WHAT THE TIMEFRAME LOOKS LIKE  AND THEN OF COURSE I BORROWING  AUTHORITIES SO I WOULD HOPE  THAT ANY FINANCIAL ANALYSIS, A  PLAN THAT WE WOULD DO WOULD  ADDRESS ALL OF THOSE THINGS.  AND I I'M LIKE PATH FORWARD  THAT CITY MANAGER INCLUDED IN  HIS HIS DOCUMENTS SO THAT THE  3 THINGS WE NEEDED TO DO. SO I  DON'T KNOW WHAT WE DO FIRST,  IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A CHICKEN  AND EGG SITUATION. SO I'LL  TAKE DIRECTION FROM ANYONE WHO  HAS THOUGHTS ABOUT THAT I  THINK WE NEED TO DO BOTH. I  DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN DO BOTH  TODAY ARE NOT SO. OKAY, WHAT  DO WE THINK. LET'S SEE IF WE  HAVE COMING THROUGH ABOUT THAT  SOMETHING DIFFERENT  COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL. YEAH.  BE HONEST. THERE'S NOTHING IN  THE BACK UP ITS FIRST DRAFT  LANGUAGE FOR POTENTIAL CHARTER  DISCUSSION. I DON'T KNOW WHAT  THAT LOOKS LIKE.  >> THE PERMISSIVE REFERENDUM  THAT. VICE MAYOR SPOKE TO.  IT'S NOT THE BACKUP MATERIAL,  SO YOU KNOW IT'S REALLY HARD  TO PREPARE FOR SOMETHING LIKE  THAT. I UNDERSTOOD THAT THE  CHARTER REVIEW BOARD WAS GOING  TO LOOK AT THAT THEY DIDN'T  HAVE QUORUM. NOTHING IN OUR  BACK UP TO HAVE COME DISCUSS  IT. OUR CITIZENS DON'T KNOW  ABOUT IT. FOR THEM TO WEIGH IN  ON I. I READ THE CITY  MANAGER'S MEMO. THAT'S DAVID  THE 18TH. AND IT APPEARS THAT.  THE POLICE STATION IS LIKE. IN  PLACE OLD THAT'S WHAT I  INTERPRETED THAT MEMO TO SAY I  MIGHT BE WRONG IF I AM PLEASE  STOP ME RIGHT NOW. I ALSO AND  NOT TOO SURE WHAT. WHAT CAN BE  DONE. WHAT CAN BE DONE IN  CONJUNCTION WITH OTHER. PARTS  OF THIS IT'S A PUZZLE.  ♪ IT'S  ♪ A PUZZLE. AND WHEN I DO  PUZZLES YOU START OUT WITH THE  THE BORDER, IT KIND OF GIVES  YOU THE FRAMEWORK. WHAT'S A  FRAMEWORK. THE LITTLE PIECES  ARE THE THE FRONT THE LITTLE  PIECES ARE WE GOING BOND. WE  CAN DO MILITARY OR WAIT A  MINUTE IF WE'RE GOING TO HOW  MUCH IS THAT AMOUNT FOR SO  THOSE ARE ALL THE ADDITIONAL  PIECES. WHEN I READ THE MEMO.  I JUST IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE  GOING TO FOCUS FIRST ON THE  CHARTER. REFERENDUM. LIKE  WE'VE BEEN HEARING. FOR ABOUT  5 YEARS THE IMPORTANCE OF  DOING SOMETHING FOR THE POLICE  STATION THEY ARE BUSTING AT  THE SEAMS PUBLIC COMMENT OR  STILL HERE SAID HE HAS  PICTURES OF IN THE ROOM I'VE  SEEN THAT MYSELF.  >> IF WE DO A CHARTER  REFERENDUM. NO GUARANTEE IT'S  GOING EITHER WAY IF IT'S A  CHARTER REFERENDUM OR A VOTE  BOND REFERENDUM. NO GUARANTEES  ARE GOING TO I JUST. I WISH  THERE WAS A LOT MORE  INFORMATION IN THE BACK  GENERAL, I MEAN THAT THE CITY  MANAGER'S MEMOS VERY WELL WELL  DONE.  >> THERE WAS A FOLLOWING THAT  I RECEIVED LAST NIGHT VERY  LATE. THAT KINDA SHOWED OFF  WHITE PAPER ABOUT BONDING IN  STEP THAT COULD HAVE BEEN PUT  INTO THE BACTERIAL IS FOR  EVERYBODY TO KIND REVIEW AND  GET THE HIT THEIR HEADS  WRAPPED AROUND.  >> COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL TIME  MANAGER LIGHT ON MAYBE CAN  ANSWER SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS  THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR,  PRESENTATION WITH A TIMELINE  TO GO OVER THE MEMO THAT I SIT  TO EXPLAIN.  >> IT WASN'T MEANT THEIR  YOUTUBE DEBATE DID IT WAS BEEN  THERE YOU TOO.  >> ALONG THE CONVERSATION AS I  LAID IT OUT FOR YOU. SO ALL  THESE QUESTIONS ARE BEING  ASKED RIGHT NOW, BUT WHAT  WASN'T GIVING IT WHAT SHOULD  BE ANSWERED. LET ME GO THROUGH  THAT. OKAY  >> THAT SOUNDS LIKE GREAT  SEGUE THEN AND HOLD OFF ON THE  DISCUSSION OF THE PERMISSIVE  REFERENDUM. I DIDN'T KNOW YOU  HAD A PRESENTATION THAT TOO  WAS NOT ALL THAT WE HAVE IS  TIMELINE. KIND OF THINGS WERE  MISSING FROM. SO I WOULD LOVE  TO HEAR THE PRESENTATION SO WE  CAN REALLY DISCUSS IT FURTHER.  >> YES, I JUST HAD A QUESTION  THOUGH ABOUT A CITY ATTORNEY.  VICE MAYOR WROTE UP PERMISSIVE  REFERENDUM THAT SYSTEMS  COMPETITION WE WE HAVE A  CLAUSE IN OUR CHARTER THAT  CITIZENS CAN BRING FORTH A IS  THAT STILL IN THEIR RIGHT IF  YOU GET 10% OF THE. GO THROUGH  THE ENTIRE PROCESS WITH THAT  EITHER. SAME THING WITH THAT  BE SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAT  WOULD BE ATTACHED TO A BOND  REFERENDUM OR WITH THOSE STEPS  BE ESSENTIALLY THE SAME AS  WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO IF YOU  WANT TO PUT ANY QUESTION UP  FOR A VOTE. THE CITY CHARTER  DOES.  >> PROVIDE TO FILE A PETITION  WITH THE CITY COMMISSION FOR  CERTAIN THINGS TO HAPPEN.  INCLUDING TO FORCE THE CITY  COMMISSION TO CONSIDER OR  RECONSIDER AN ORDINANCE  ORDINANCE. INCLUDING SUGGEST  CITY COMMISSION TERMINATED  OFFICER AND I BELIEVE THERE  MIGHT BE 3RD REASON SMALL VERY  SPECIFIC REASONS. THIS SCHEME  IS SOMETHING DIFFERENT. AND  JUST LIKE ATTORNEY. MILLER  NONE OF THE ATTORNEYS IN THE  CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE SPECIAL  COUNSEL THAT OR SEE ANYTHING  LIKE IT I'M GOING NEIGHBORS  LIKE THE ONE CITY. IN NEW YORK  THAT WHAT THIS PERMISSIVE  REFERENDUM SCHEME WAS INSPIRED  BY. SO. IT WOULD MAKE THE CITY  OF FLORIDA THERE'S NOTHING  WRONG WITH BEING UNIQUE WE CAN  CERTAINLY TRY TO BE THE RUNNER  AND DO SOMETHING UNIQUE. BUT I  WILL CAUTION YOU TO SAY THAT  RIGHT NOW ON YOUR CHARTER  PROVISION IS UNIQUE RIGHT NOW  WE ARE ONE OF A KIND AND THAT  IS WHY SOME OF THESE FUNDING  MECHANISMS. ATTORNEY MILLER  SAY IF YOU WANT TO DO THIS I  SUGGEST GOING TO THE COURT AND  GETTING THE COURT TO WEIGH IN  AND VALIDATING THAT THAT BOND  VALIDATION PROCESS ONLY  APPLIES TO ABOUT ONE  PARTICULAR FINANCING  INSTRUMENTS EVENT. IF YOU WANT  TO DO COPS AND YOU WANT TO DO  ONE EVERY YEAR WE WOULD NEED  TO GO VALIDATE IT EVERY TIME.  SO YOU KNOW DANGER IN BEING  UNIQUE IS THAT YOU DON'T HAVE  ANYONE ELSE PRECEDENT WE TO OR  THE EXPERIENCE OF ANYTHING  HAVE YOU KNOW EXPERIENCE BOND  COUNCIL WHO SAYS WHY DON'T WE  DON'T WE DON'T KNOW ANYTHING  ABOUT THAT WE'VE NEVER WE'VE  NEVER SEEN IT. YOU KNOW THAT  THAT WOULD BE THE POSITION  COURT TOO SO WE BE MORE LIKELY  TO FROG CHALLENGE AND MORE  LIKELY TO FACE UNANTICIPATED  ISSUES ON THE LINE IS YOU ON  SCENE AS LEGISLATORS. YOU KNOW  WHAT WRITE SOMETHING EVEN WITH  YOUR THE EXPERTISE OF YOUR  CONSULTANTS INTERNAL STAFF ONE  OF THE BEST THAT YOU CAN, BUT  WHEN YOU GO TO START USING IT  AND YOU OFTEN SEE WHERE THERE  MIGHT BE SOME. AND  ANTICIPATING THINK YOU WOULD  COMPLICATIONS WITH THEIR  CHARTER WHEN THAT HAPPENS ONLY  WAY YOU CAN FIX IT IS BY  REFERENDUM AND IT IS VERY  DIFFICULT TO GET A FROM THE  PAST SO I JUST SAY ALL THAT TO  SAY WHATEVER TURN YOUR  WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO TO  AMEND IT. WE DO WANT TO BE AS  UNAMBIGUOUS AS POSSIBLE AND  EVEN IN THAT SITUATION YOU CAN  SLOWLY, YOU KNOW AVOID  CHALLENGE. BUT SO IN SONG. NO  IT ISN'T OUR CHILDREN NOW  WOULD NOT. PROVIDE FOR THIS  TYPE OF BUSINESS RIGHT.  >> I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT  WHEN THEY WHEN YOU'RE SAYING  PETITION, IT'S NOT SIMPLY A  MATTER OF THIS CAR AROUND WHEN  YOU SIGN THIS PAPER AND THAT'S  IT ENTIRE PROCESS BECAUSE I  SPEAK FROM MY PERSONAL  EXPERIENCE WHEN I WITH THE  WITH THE GROUP WE PUT ON A  REFERENDUM QUESTION MINIMUM  TREE PROTECTION STANDARDS TO  BE ADDED TO OUR OWN CITY  CHARTER. THEY HAD TO BE 10% OF  THE VOTERS WHO VOTED IN THE  PREVIOUS ELECTION THEY HAD TO  BE VERIFIED. YOU HAVE TO SET  UP POLITICAL COMMITTEE AND  YOUR YOUR EXPENSES AND YOUR  CONTRIBUTIONS HAVE TO BE  RECORDED JUST LIKE YOU'RE  RUNNING FOR. ELECTION I I JUST  WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT THAT BE  ENTAILED THIS IT'S NOT JUST  SIGN THIS PAPER. AND HAND AND  TURNED IT IN TYPE THAT IT  WOULD BE AN INVOLVED PROCESS  IT'S RIGHT NEAR ITS AND  ANYTIME PETITIONING GOVERNMENT  THAT WAY  >> IT'S HIGHLY TECHNICAL AND  ONCE SIGNATURES COME AND IF  YOU PROCESSED INTERNALLY IN  THE CITY AND THEY GO OUT TO  SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS TO  MAKE SURE TO CERTIFY THE  SIGNATURES. THAT TYPICALLY A  PORTION OF THEM GET EXCLUDED  FOR WHATEVER REASON POINT IN  TIME. AND YOU COME BACK TO GET  THE FINAL COUNT. AND YOU  DETERMINE OKAY JUST TO GET  STARTED AS THE PETITIONER MATT  IN THE MINIMUM YOU RUSH HOLT I  DO WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT I  DON'T BELIEVE OUR CHARTER.  ALLOWS THE CITIZENRY TO  PETITION. TO TAKE ANYTHING  DIRECT TO REFERENDUM BECAUSE A  LOT OF CITIZENRY TO PETITION  TO FORCE THE COMMISSION TO  CONSIDER SOMETHING RHYME BUT  THE COMMISSION ALWAYS HAS THE  ULTIMATE DECISION RIGHT END OF  THE RIGHT TO ACTUALLY PASS  THAT HAS RIGHT CITIZENS CAN  OVERRIDE THE COMMISSION AND  THE CITIZENS CAN CIRCUMVENT  THE COMMISSION BUT THEY CAN  PUT SOMETHING BACK ON YOUR  TABLE THAT MAYBE YOU DIDN'T  OFFER HAVE WILL TAKE A CASE  LIKE THAT OR A FINE. THANK YOU  SO. CITY CLERK.  >> WE JUST HAD A REQUEST IF WE  CAN DO PUBLIC THAT CERTAIN  PEOPLE WOULD BE ABLE TO NOT IS  THAT OKAY WITH EVERYBODY KNEW  WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ONE  COMMENT. YEAH, I'D LIKE I'D  LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS IS AFTER  ABOUT AFTER VICE MAYOR OKAY,  SORT OF WRAP HEADS AROUND LIKE  WHERE WE MOVE NEXT IT, YOU  KNOW ONE WE MADE A RECENT  DECISION THAT A 100% A SIGN OF  LEASE PROJECT WHICH OBVIOUSLY  CAN GO THROUGH A VARIETY OF.  RIHANNA CORONATIONS OR A LACK  OF A BETTER WORD. THAT'S  ONGOING TOO. IT SEEMS TO ME  AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO  CITY MANAGERS PRESENTATION I  WOULD THINK THE DECISION AS TO  THE TYPE OF REFERENDUM. WE  WANTED TO IT'S THE NEXT ITEM  IN LINE. YOU KNOW, THEN THAT  DECISION AS TO THE TYPE OF  CHARTER AMENDMENT. WE WANTED  TO DEPENDING ON WHICH  REFERENDUM GOES FIRST. WHAT  TYPE IN PREPARING THAT CHARTER  AMENDMENT AND THEN.  CONCURRENTLY A COMMISSION. YOU  KNOW COMMISSION OF A FINANCIAL  ANALYSIS THAT'S GOING TO HELP  US. YOU KNOW WRAP OUR HEADS  AROUND THAT THE FUNDING  ASPECTS THIS PROJECT AND ALL  OUR PROJECTS SO I MEAN THAT'S  SORT OF LIKE THINK WHERE CITY  MANAGER IS GOING TO BE HEADING  WITH HIS PRESENTATION AND YOU  KNOW I JUST DON'T WANT ANYBODY  TO FEEL LIKE WE'RE LIKE A  BUNCH OF CATS GOING IN A BUNCH  OF DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS. THERE  IS AN END GAME TO THIS WHOLE  APPROACH HERE AND THEN THERE  ARE SOME THINGS THAT WILL BE  DONE FIRST SECOND 3RD THERE  ARE ALSO SOME THINGS CAN BE  DONE CONCURRENTLY.  >> YOU KNOW THERE WAS A METHOD  TO DOING THIS ALL UNDER THE  SUN SHINES KIND OF LIKE AN  ADDITIONAL CHALLENGE, BUT ONE  THAT. HOPEFULLY EVERYONE OUT  THERE APPRECIATES AND AND  COMPARE WITH US ANYWAY.  >> I YIELD COMMISSIONER OKAY.  MISTER YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.  >> CENTER TALKING ABOUT VICE  MAYOR BROUGHT UP THE  PERMISSIVE PART OF THIS AND  WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OUR I AND  I THINK THIS IS GOING TO COME  UP WITH THE. CITY MANAGER'S  PROPOSAL COMING UP, BUT I HAD  A QUESTION AND THIS PROBABLY  FOR A CITY CLERK. WHAT WHAT IT  COSTS TO HAVE AN ITEM PUTIN  REFERENDUM.  >> IT'S ON A REGULAR ELECTION,  THE GENERAL ELECTION, BUT ONLY  POSSIBLY GO TO THE NEXT PAGE  AND THAT'S $30,000.  APPROXIMATELY.  >> OKAY, BUT THEN IF WE HAVE  TO DO A SPECIAL ELECTION LATER  ON. LET'S SAY IT FAILED IT  IT'S MORE. THE MAIN THING IS  IF WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A  DECISION ON WHICH REFERENDUM  OR CHARTER AMENDMENT WE WANT  TO GO WITH WE MAY WANT TO  CONSIDER PUTTING THE FIRST  CHARTER AMENDMENT THAT WE  TALKED ABOUT WITH THE BIG  ASCOT BEING COMPETITIVE BEING  IN LINE WITH THE OTHER  COMMUNITIES. AND ALSO PUTTING  THE PERMISSIVE UP AS WELL  GIVING THE CITIZENRY CHOICE TO  WEAR. THEY STILL WANT TO STAY  INVOLVED OR NOT IT'S JUST  SOMETHING FOR THE FURTHER  CONVERSATION, AN AN IDEA TO  PUT OUT THERE BECAUSE THE BIG  ONE MAY NOT PASS, BUT THE  LITTLE ONE IT'S JUST SOMETHING  TO CONSIDER AND I JUST WANTED  TO PUT THAT OUT THERE BEFORE  CITY MANAGER STARTED TALKING  ABOUT IS GEORGE'S THANK YOU.  >> COMMISSIONER I WOULD LIKE  TO HEAR WHAT CITY MANAGER HAS  TO SAY I THINK THAT WILL  REALLY HELP US STRUCTURED  THINGS THAT AND PUT THINGS IN  CONTEXT. I'LL LEAVE THAT UP TO  OTHERS TO DECIDE IF WE GO TO  PUBLIC COMMENT NOW OR WAIT.  WHEN HE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT  NOW WE GET A CONSENSUS TO DO  PUBLIC COMMENT TAKE A 10  MINUTE BREAK AND THEN HERE THE  CITY PRESENTATION FROM.  >> IT'S MY CONSENSUS. GAME.  OKAY.  >> WITH YOUR IMAGE THE BREAK  IT FOR A CAUSE OF THE MARRIAGE  OR RIGHT. OKAY WITH THAT. YES,  I'M DONE WITH THAT MAN. OKAY  THANK YOU OKAY SO DO PUBLIC  COMMENT.  >> AND IT'S NOT DOES NOT WISH  TO SPEAK THAT SUPPORTS THE AND  THE BAND SOUTHBURY DOES NOT  WISH TO SPEAK SUPPORTS ITEM.  JOHN BOSWELL DOES NOT WISH TO  SPEAK SUPPORTS THIS ITEM. TIM  SNYDER DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK  THAT SUPPORTS THIS ITEM. JOE  DO WE DOES NOT WISH TO  SUPPORT. DOES NOT WISH TO  SPEAK SUPPORTS ITEM AND NATHAN  FARM DRIVER DOES NOT WISH TO  SPEAK THAT SUPPORTS ITEM.  PERSON I HAVE TOM LYNDEN MIRE.  ALL BY MIKE MORALES AND SHIRT  HER APARTMENT.  >> I THANK GOOD AFTERNOON  COMMISSIONER, MIKE WE'RE ALSO  FOR.  >> THANK YOU FOR. CONSIDERING  OBVIOUSLY THIS AND NOT KICKING  THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD.  >> AS HEARD EARLIER. TO MY  KNOWLEDGE, NO ONE HAS EVER  BEEN CHASTISED FOR PROVIDING  MORE SAFETY PROTECTION TO  PREPARE. WELL WE ALL KNOW AND  AGREE IS COMING. WHEN IT COMES  TO PUBLIC SAFETY. HOWEVER  WE'VE ALL SEEN PEOPLE  CHASTISED FOR NOT PROVIDING  NEEDED BEFORE WARREN SAFETY.  AND SERVICE NEEDED TO PROTECT  THE PUBLIC. THEY'RE ALREADY  STATED IN THE PAST. THE ONE  THING YOU DON'T MESS WITH THIS  PUBLIC SAFETY. WE NEED TO  PREPARE FOR THE FUTURE AND DO  WHATEVER IS NEEDED TO FUND  THIS PROJECT TO ITS WHOLE  COMPLETE BILL DAL NOT A  PARTIAL OR CUT BACK PROJECT.  FOR WHAT IS BEING CONSIDERED.  AND NOT PROVIDING WHAT IS  NEEDED. AS WE ALREADY CAN SEE  HOW THIS BUILDING AS WELL AS  THE PD THERE'S NOT ADEQUATE.  AND ALL THIS WAS WITHOUT ANY  PREDICTION OF THE EXPLODING  GROWTH HAPPENING NOW. YOU KNOW  AND YOUR JOB IS TO PROVIDE THE  NEEDED AN ADEQUATE SAFETY TO  THE PUBLIC THAT IT NEEDS. ALSO  SEEN NOT MOVING FORWARD WITH  THE PLANNED CONSTRUCTION TO  START IN 2026. IT'S COSTING  7 MILLION MORE INCLUDED IN THE  ALREADY ONE 20 22 MILLION  DOLLARS. IF WE APPROVE THIS  NOW AND START FUNDING THIS  YEAR TO START CONSTRUCTION IN  25. WE SAVE 7 MILLION REDUCING  THE COST 250 MILLION. THOSE OF  YOU THAT THINK CUTTING BACK ON  WHAT'S NEEDED GOING FORWARD TO  SAY YOU SPENT LESS TO THE  PUBLIC AND THEN WAITING 10  YEARS WHAT IS NEEDED NOW THEN  JUST LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE SAVING  IN JUST ONE YEAR ALONE ALONG  10 YEARS, STARTING IN 2025 26.  THIS IS JUST A NO-BRAINER WE  NEED TO DO WHAT IS NEEDED TO  BE DONE FROM THIS AND MOVE  FORWARD. YOU CANNOT PUT A  PRICE PUBLIC SAFETY. SO DON'T  PUT YOURSELF IN A POSITION  DOWN THE ROAD. WE'RE GOING TO  NEED A BIGGER BOAT. THIS IS  WHAT WE CALL A BRADY MOMENT.  WHEN YOU REALIZE WHAT YOU HAVE  IS NOT ADEQUATE TO ACCOMPLISH  GOAL.  >> ON THIS ONE THE MIRE. SURE  HER COMMENT.  >> COMMISSION THANK YOU FOR  THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO  YOU TODAY SO THEN TAKING SOME  NOTES OVER THERE AS AN ELECTED  OFFICIAL LIKE YOU, I KNOW  THESE ARE TOUGH DECISIONS TO  MAKE ANYBODY HOPEFULLY  LISTENING OR WATCHING REALIZE  YOU GUYS ARE PRETTY LOT OF  EFFORT INTO THAT MY NOTES SHOW  THAT THIS IS WHAT I'VE LEARNED  I DON'T HAVE A PERSONAL BOND  OF TOO MANY ORNAMENTS ON MY  CHRISTMAS TREE. AND WHEN  COMMISSIONER STOKES SAYS HE'S  GOOD NOT BEEN ASKING MORE  QUESTIONS THAT MEANS HE'S  GOING QUESTIONS OF I KNOW  DIFFERENT JUST REAL QUICK TALK  SHOW SPACE BECAUSE I'M GOING  THROUGH THIS RIGHT NOW HAVE 3  CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT I'M  WORKING ON SHERIFF'S OFFICE.  >> ALL OF THEM I THINK IN  LISTENING TO YOUR DISCUSSION  REALLY EVERYTHING YOU HAVE ON  THE WEBSITE. CITY MANAGER IS  EXCELLENT JOB PUTTING ALL  THOSE QUESTIONS ON THEIR VERY  INFORMATIVE. WHAT I'M ASKING  FOR SHELF SPACE MIGHT CAPITAL  PROJECTS ONE INCLUDING MY  HEADQUARTERS I THINK TOO  SMALL, SO YOU CAN NOT  UNDERESTIMATE THE IMPORTANCE  SHELF SPACE. YOU KNOW  COMMISSIONER YOU MENTIONED I  WANT TO SIT BACK IN FEBRUARY  OF COUPLE OF THESE HEARINGS  THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE  FUTURE'S GOING TO PREDICT. WE  KNOW I THINK WITH SOME DEGREE  OF CERTAINLY THE FUTURE IS  GOING TO PREDICT. MORE GROWTH  RIGHT SO WHETHER ITS HOMELESS  OUTREACH WHETHER IT'S MORE  DETECTIVES WHETHER IT'S A  LARGER REAL TIME CRIME CENTER.  WHETHER IT'S A DIGITAL  FORENSICS LABORATORY LIKE MINE  BUSTING AT THE SEAMS OR A DRUG  LAB. WHATEVER THE FUTURE HOLDS  BUILD-OUT SHOWS BASE SO THAT  YOU CAN ADAPT TO THAT THAT'S  VERY IMPORTANT. A LONG-TERM  COST KNOW THAT THE CHIEF  MENTIONED THAT SEVERAL TIMES  IN CLEARLY WE ARE SEEING THAT  EVEN SOME OF OUR SHORT-TERM  PROJECTS. COST IS GOING UP SO  I KNOW THAT YOU RECOGNIZE THAT  BUT I JUST WANT YOU KNOW WE'RE  ALSO FACING THAT IN OUR COUNTY  PROJECTS ADJUSTING ACCORDINGLY  SO THAT WE END UP SAVING  MONEY. OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE GOING  FUTURE BUILDING CODE REVISIONS  WERE DEALING WITH THAT IN OUR  HEADQUARTERS WERE TRYING TO  RETROFIT IT I HAD A  DEHUMIDIFIER THIS IS BECAUSE  THIS TABLE IN MY OFFICE FOR  OVER A YEAR BECAUSE THE AIR  CONDITIONING DUCTS DON'T MATCH  UP YOU REALLY HAVE TO THINK  ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT  SHELF SPACE LASTLY I'M GOING  TO MENTION EFFICIENCY I KNOW  THAT A CHIEF GEARS AND  MENTIONED THAT BACK IN  FEBRUARY. YOU CANNOT  UNDERESTIMATE THE EFFICIENT  GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE WHEN I GOT  A LOT OF MY FOLKS AT OUR  HEADQUARTERS WHICH WE'RE STILL  GOING TO EXPAND ITS NOT LARGE  ENOUGH I DON'T HAVE RECORDS  CIVIL WARRANTS TRAINING, THAT  OR HITCHEN ARE STILL OFF SITE.  THE EFFICIENCY THAT I SEE WHEN  I SEE A DETECTIVE WALKED  ACROSS THE HALL AND GET A  PIECE OF EVIDENCE AND THEN GO  UPSTAIRS CONSULT WITH ONE OF  OUR FORENSICS TAX AND THEN GO  DOWNSTAIRS AND HAVE THAT  PACKAGE FINGERPRINT IF YOU GO  OVER TO THE DRUG LAB OR WHAT  POINT ARE CONFERENCE ROOMS  MEET WITH THE WITNESSES IN THE  STATE ATTORNEY SYNERGIES WE  HAVE LEARNED JUST IN THE  AMOUNT FOLKS I'VE MOVED TO  HEADQUARTERS REALLY BE  REALIZED IF YOU WERE TO PUT  EVERYBODY ONE SPACE HERE FOR  YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT. JUST  BASE DURING VOTING FOR STORMS,  I'VE BEEN SOME TAKE CLOSETS  DURING STORMS I THINK BE ABLE  TO HAVE SPACE WOULD BE  IMPORTANT AS WELL JUST WANT TO  THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND  YOUR THOUGHTFULNESS ON THIS.  AND HAVE UNDERESTIMATED MINE  SHELF SPACE AND I DON'T WANT  ANY FOLKS.  >> MAKE SAME MISTAKE MY  COMMENTS AS A SHARE IN A  RESIDENT OF THE CITY SO  PLEASE.  >> YOU CAN SHARE.  >> BELCONNEN FOLLOWED BY SEAN  BUREAU.  >> GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYBODY  WILL GO TO NORTH PORT AREA  CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. AS WELL  AS THINK THEY KNOW THAT THE  SAME OR LOVES ITS POLICE  DEPARTMENT SUPPORTS IT EVERY  CHANCE TO GET ON THIS IN. I DO  WANT TO THANK EACH OF YOU FOR  MEETING WITH OUR THAT'S WHAT  WE HAVE WAS IT WAS GREAT UP  SHERIFF IDEAS AND I WANT TO  THANK THE CITY MANAGER WOULD  MEET WITH US AS WELL AS SHARE  IN SPOTS. A BIG KUDOS CITY  MANAGER HE SPOKE THIS MORNING  TOO. THE COVID GROUP OVER THEY  DID A GREAT JOB HE MADE THE  CITY WILL POUR IN THE CHAMBER,  PROUD THAT MEETING HE DID A  GREAT GREAT JOB, SO I WANT TO  THANK HIM FOR THAT AND I KNOW  YOU ALWAYS SEE WAS THE  STATEMENT AND I KNOW THERE ARE  DISCUSSION. WITH THE CITY  MANAGER WHAT HE WAS PLAYING  OPPOSING TOO. THE COMMISSION  RIGHT NOW TODAY THE MEETING SO  I JUST WANT TO STATE THAT AT  THERE ARE DISCUSSING THEIR  BODY AND WITH THE REFLECTION  THAT CITY MAYOR SHOW THAT  WHERE STOOD BEHIND HIM AND  SUPPORT BUT HE'S MEANT TO YOU  TODAY BY PROPOSAL FOR POLICE  DEPARTMENT APPRECIATE HIM  LISTEN TO A SEPARATE SHOWED  THAT THAT WAS THAT'S IMPORTANT  WE YOU LISTEN TO US WE KNOW  THESE ARE RIGHT WE BELIEVE  HE'S ON THE RIGHT PATH ON THIS  ONE THAT WE WOULD LOVE SUPPORT  HIM ON THAT HOPEFULLY HE'LL  REACH OUT TO US IN THE POLICE  OR REACH OUT TO US AND WE CAN  SUPPORT WHAT THESE IT'S  RECOMMENED TODAY THE COUNCIL  COMMISSION SO THANK YOU THANK  YOU VERY MUCH.  GOOD MORNING.  SEAN BURROUGHS AND RESIDENT OF  THE CITY.  >> AND ALSO INCOMING A  PRESIDENT FOR THE BOARD OF  DIRECTORS FOR THE CHAMBER OF  COMMERCE. I OFTEN READ FROM  THIS BOOK CALLED THE AND  SECOND OPINION AND. THERE'S A  LOT HAVE A BACKGROUND IN  RETAIL CONSTRUCTION TO HAVE A  BACKGROUND A LOT OF THINGS.  ONE THING THAT INITIALLY THAT  STUCK OUT REALLY REALLY BIG  WAS THE FACT THAT THERE WAS NO  BUDGET BEFORE WE STARTED THE  PROJECT. AND I'M GRATEFUL FACT  THAT SO MANAGER STEPPED UP AND  HE'S DONE WHAT YOU NEED TO DO  ECHO THE SENTIMENTS OF BILL.  100%. BECAUSE WE'RE STARTING  TO GET THAT TURNED AROUND. GO  THE GROCERY BUY EVERYTHING AND  THEN TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHEN  YOU GET TO THE ONE PAY FOR YOU  WANT TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU  TO MAKE US ALONG THE WAY IT'S  GREAT WHEN COME BACK NEXT WEEK  WE HAVE MORE MONEY TO THE REST  OF IT. TO TRY TO PUSH THIS  PROJECT THROUGH ONE 22. THE  CITY WILL TAKE A BLOCKED, LIKE  NOBODY'S BUSINESS. DON'T MEET  I LOVE THIS CITY. I MOVED HERE  TO LIVE HERE SPECIFICALLY BUT  HERE FOR YEARS ONE OF 5 YEARS.  VERY ACTIVE VERY INVOLVED JUST  JUMP RIGHT IN SERVE WERE A  KID. THIS IS ONE THING AS A  RESIDENT. I'M ALL FOR FORWARD  TO GETTING RAIN I WON'T GIVE  YOU GUYS EVER YOU NEED.  HOWEVER, LET'S GET THE PROJECT  IN THE RIGHT ORDER. NOT PLAY  THEN BUDGET BECAUSE THAT'S ALL  WE LOOK LIKE A BUNCH WEIRDOS  TURNAROUND FIGURE OUT HOW TO  PAY SOMETHING ARE GOING TO  HURT THESE PEOPLE'S FEELINGS  HURT THOSE PEOPLE WANTS TO GET  SOMETHING ELSE DOT. IT IS  IMPORTANT. EVERY PRODUCT ON  THE LIST CIP IS IMPORTANT. WE  HAVE TO HELP THE PROCESS  RIGHT. IN ORDER TO GET THE  COMMUNITY SUPPORT. SO THAT  THERE IS NO INFIGHTING WE DO  NOT INVITING HERE. WE DON'T  NEED TO BE MORE. THIS IS SUCH  A PROJECT THAT WE NEED TO DO  IT PROPERLY SO THAT THE POLICE  HAVE ALL THE SUPPORT THAT THEY  NEED AND THE CITIZENS FEEL  HEARD. BUT AT OKAY.  >> WE'RE GOING TAKE A BREAK  WHEN HE WON 10 MINUTES AND  MINUTES AND THAT'S WHAT THE  CONSENSUS OKAY, THANK SO ONE  BACK AT 3  >> EVERYONE MY NAME IS MARIO  OF NVIDIA I AM THE PLAN OR  SCHEDULE OR FOR THE CITY  OF NORTH PORT SOLID WASTE A  GOOD INTO THIS POSITION. FIRST  I WAS RECYCLE DRIVER FOR 5  YEARS FOR THE CITY PORT AND  THEN I BECAME THE PLAN A  SCHEDULE AFTER TAKING AN  INTEREST EDUCATING RESIDENTS  ON HOW TO RECYCLE PROPERTY MY  POSITION MY DAY-TO-DAY USUALLY  I START OUT BY VISITING THE  NEW RESIDENTS THAT SCHEDULE  GARBAGE AND RECYCLING  CONTAINERS TO BE THE LIMIT  AND.  >> I WILL GO SEE THEM AND  EDUCATE THEM ON A SOLID WASTE  GUIDELINES MORE LESS MORE  FOCUSED RECYCLE PART OF AFTER  THAT I WILL DRIVE AROUND THE  CITY AND I ACTUALLY EXPECT  RECYCLE CONTAINERS MANUALLY  ♪ FOR CONTAMINATION. AND THEN I  WILL TAKE CALLS FROM DRIVERS  IF THERE'S  ♪ ANY ISSUES WITHOUT REPEAT.  GARBAGE RECYCLE AND I WILL GO  EDUCATE THE WHAT I LOVE MOST  ABOUT THE SAME NORFORK IS  THERE ARE FROM ALL OVER THE  WORLD.  ♪ I GET TO LEARN ABOUT THE SOLID  WASTE GUIDELINES WHEN THEY  COME FROM AS WELL AS EDUCATE  THEM  ♪ ON THE CITY NORTH PORT'S  ALWAYS GUIDELINES HOW TO  RECYCLE PROPERLY.  >> BELIEVE THAT THE NATURAL  RESOURCES DEPARTMENT WILL BE  INTEGRAL PART FOR THE CITY'S  GROWTH IS WE WANT TO ACHIEVE A  MORE BALANCED APPROACH OF  DEVELOPMENT IN THE FUTURE WHAT  WE REALLY WANT TO DO IS SEE  SENSIBLE DEVELOPMENT  SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT.  >> AND ABOUT A MONTH THAT IN  LYON WAIVES WHAT WE DO HAVE  ALREADY HAVE HASTENED WE WANT  TO PRESERVE AS MUCH AS WE CAN  OF NATURAL RESOURCES, SO THAT  IS STILL PLACE POLL ON THAT  TRUST BASES, MIC WRITING BAD  SADDLE THE OF THE SPECIES THAT  AND SURVIVED IT ALL HABITAT  THAT ROLE SYSTEMS. BIG PART  >> THE WAYS YOU CALL SYSTEMS  FUNCTION, IMPORTANT PARTS FOR  OUR COMMUNITY, OUR LIST THE  SPECIES THEY STABILIZE THE  SOIL THEY PROVIDES SO MANY  DIFFERENT BENEFITS, INCLUDING  SHADE LIMITING THE HEAT ISLAND  EFFECTS WITHIN OUR CITY  ♪ PROVIDING HABITAT PROVIDING  SHELTER FOR THE SPECIES. JUST  TO ALSO FOR OUR IS THAT HE CAN  JOIN MINCE WELL AS AN A LOT OF  WHAT I DO IS.  >> MAKING SURE THAT  DEVELOPMENT CONFORMS TO THE  TREE PROTECTION CODE SO ONE  THING WE ALREADY HAVE IN PLACE  SINCE APRIL OF 2022. IS A TREE  PROTECTION CODE WHICH IS QUITE  ROBUST AND THE CITY OF NORTH  PORT THAT WAS ADOPTED BY  COMMISSION AND THE CITY ALSO A  LOT OF COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT  AND SO WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO  HAVE THE TREE PROTECTION CODE  SO.  >> WHAT A LOT OF WHAT I DO IS  MAKING SURE THAT DEVELOPMENT  IN THE RESIDENTIAL OR  COMMERCIAL CONFORMS TO THAT  CODE WE ALL SUCH A PASSIONATE  TEAM WE COME FROM.  >> FACT I THINK BETWEEN US WE  HAVE A 100 DAYS OF EXPERIENCE  AT WE ARE EVERY DIME RIGHT  WING TO GO OUT AND YOU KNOW WE  KNOW HE'S CUT OUT WITH A  ♪ HAPPY TO TAKE THE CHALLENGE TO  DIVISION COMMUNITY  INVOLVEMENT.  >> AND LEADERSHIP IN THE CITY  WE REALLY HAVE TO MAKE GREAT  STRIDES AND PROTECTING WHAT WE  HAVE HERE AND FINDING THAT  BALANCE WITH DEVELOPMENT AND  ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP, I'M  EXCITED TO BE A PART OF THIS  TEAM REALLY.  >> SEEKING AND LOOKING FORWARD  TO THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO  BE ABLE TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.  ♪ >> REX HAS A FULL CLASS TRX TO  CAMP IS A NEW CLASS FOR ME,  ALTHOUGH I'VE BEEN USING TRS  FOR MANY YEARS WITH PERSONAL  TRAINING THAT I DO OR IN OTHER  STYLES CLASSES THAT I'VE DONE.  BUT AN ACTUAL FOCUS WITH JUST  TRX THIS IS A NEW CLASSROOM. I  LOVE THE CAMARADERIE AT TO SAY  WITH ALL  ♪ THE PARTICIPANTS. I THINK WE  HAVE A LOT OF FUN. FIRST OF  ALL EVERYONE GETS TO THE MANS  THAT YEAR EXPENSE OF BEING  THAT WE HAVE 5 STATIONS SO WE  HAVE OVERFLOW OR MORE THAN 5  PEOPLE. PART OF THE PEOPLE ON  THEM AND THE OTHER PEOPLE ARE  DOING FOR WORK AND THEN WE'LL  SWITCH SO EVERYBODY GETS AN  OPPORTUNITY TO BE AN ALL  STATIONS JUST COME HAVE FUN  WITH IT MAKING YOUR OWN IT'S  NOT SCARY. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO  BE INTIMIDATING AT ALL YOU'RE  USING YOUR BODY WEIGHT USING  THE ANGLES THAT YOU CHOOSE TO  USE ON THE MAN'S AND IT JUST  VARIES WITH HOW YOU'RE  COMFORTABLE AND HOW YOU'RE  FEELING WHEN YOU'RE HERE.  >> STARTED CHARLOTTE COUNTY  UTILITIES AS A METER READER IN  2004. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE  I GOT MY FOOT IN THE DOOR AND  WANT REACH A POINT MY LIFE OR  THINGS ARE MORE STABLE AND I  DECIDED TO LEAVE CHARLOTTE  COUNTY UTILITIES. AND I WENT  AND GOT MY INTERNS LICENSE  THOSE VERY EXCITING DOING THAT  FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME,  BUT AFTER A WHILE I STARTED  THINKING ABOUT THE UTILITY. IT  WAS IN MY HEART AT THIS POINT  I HAD ALMOST 12 JUST 2 MONTHS,  SHY OF 12 YEARS AND AND SO I  REALIZED DURING THAT TIME. MY  HEART WAS IN UTILITIES AND SO  I STARTED LOOKING AROUND AGAIN  I THINK OPENING HERE AT ABC IN  THE TECH, SO I APPLIED AND I  GOT IN TYPICALLY I GET HERE AT  7 IN THE MORNING. I GET MY  LIST YOU KNOW IF I CAN GET TO  THIS THIS IS WHAT I NEED TO DO  AND.  >> I GET IN MY TRUCK, IF I  NEED ANY SUPPLIES PARTS TOOLS  BASED OFF OF THE WORK I WAS  GIVEN THAT MORNING, I'LL PICK  THAT UP HERE AT OUR SHOP AND  THEN I HEAD OUT IN THEM.  MICHAEL FOR THE DAYS GET AS  MUCH WORK AS THAT WAS ASSIGNED  TO DONE AS POSSIBLE. AND  SOMETIMES THAT HAPPENS AND  OTHER TIMES THERE'S A LOT OF  FIRST RESPONSE CALLS THAT COME  IN MY FAVORITE PART IS THE  UNIQUENESS NOT KNOWING WHAT  I'M GOING TO BE FACED WITH  EVERY DAY. IT COULD BE  DIFFERENT. IT'S NOT MUNDANE IN  ANY WAY.  >> AND IT'S EXCITING WHEN YOU  GET A CALL AND YOU'RE YOU'RE  ON YOUR WAY YOU DON'T KNOW  WHAT IT IS AND YOU YOU HAVE  THE EXPERIENCE AND THE  KNOW-HOW AND THE BACKING TO  FACE WHATEVER IT'S GOING TO BE  SO I FEEL VERY CONFIDENT IN  FACING THESE CALLS AND I THINK  THAT'S FRONT PART.  >> PROMISE ALWAYS INTERESTED  IN PORT. HERE TODAY, WITH MARY  OF ANY PLAYER SCHEDULE FOR THE  CITY OF NORTH PORT SOLID WASTE  DIVISION WE'RE GOING TO TALK  ABOUT PICKUPS TODAY. I HAD A  SCHEDULED VOTE PICKUPS WHAT  SHOULD GO OUT AND WHAT SHOULD  NOT GO OUT TO THE CURB WHERE  TO PLACE THE ITEM TO THEM WHAT  HAPPENS IF YOU HAVE MORE THAN  WHAT A LOT OF CHIEF OF THE  YEAR PICK UP. SO I KNOW WE  CALL 9, 4, 1, 2, 4, 0, 8, 0,  50 TALK TO OUR CUSTOMER  SERVICE REPS THAT'S CORRECT  HOW TO PICKUP HOW ELSE CAN WE  DO THAT.  >> CAN ALSO GO ON A  WEBSITE NORTH PORT FL DOT  CLICK ON SOLID WASTE AND FILL  OUT A BULK REQUEST FOR  EXCELLENT EXCELLENT SCENARIO  WHEN IN DOUBT.  >> IF A PERSON WANTS TO PLAY  SET OUT WHAT SHOULD TAKE PLACE  OUT. WHAT'S RIGHT THING WAS  THE WRONG THING BASICALLY  FRANK ANYTHING THAT DOESN'T  FIT IN THE CONTAINER THAT'S  GARBAGE IS GOING TO GO  CURBSIDE GOING TO STAY OFF  DRIVEWAYS WHAT'S NOT ACCEPT  THAT IS TIRES CHEMICALS.  >> STUFF LIKE THAT YOU CAN PUT  YARD WASTE OUT THAT'S  CONSIDERED BALK BUT JUST MAKE  SURE IT'S SEPARATE FROM  GARBAGE PILE CONWAY SAYS A  SEPARATE PICKUP, SO WHAT  HAPPENS IF I USE ALL MY UP  GOOD QUESTION. SO YOU CAN HAVE  MORE BUT HAVE TO PAY IT CAN BE  1658 CUBIC YARD AND THAT'S  LINKED TIMES WITH TIME TIGHT  DIVIDED BY 27 IS ONE CUBIC ANY  QUESTIONS OF COURSE LET'S NOT  GIVE US A CALL 941-240-8050.  >> I'M STACEY LOVES OF  EMERGENCY MANAGER FOR CITY  WORK AND I'M GOING DISCUSS  FIRST RESPONDERS AFTER STORM,  SO IT MAY TAKE A WHILE FOR  FIRST RESPONDERS TO GET THE  STORM AND THAT'S DUE TO A  VARIETY OF REASONS. ONE ALL  FIRST RESPONDERS OFF THE  ROADS, THE TROPICAL STORM  FORCE WINDS ARE SUSTAINED FOR  THEIR SAFETY AND THAT IS A  STANDARD TO AND OTHER SO WE  WILL HAVE A BACKLOG OF CALLS  THAT HAVE COME IN DURING THE  STORM THAT WILL PRIORITIZE  BASED AND RESPONDING TO AS  WELL AS THE CALLS THAT ARE  CURRENTLY COMMUNICATOR. ALSO  ON THE ROADS MIGHT BE FLOODED.  THERE MIGHT BE DEBRIS IN THE  ROADS ARE TECHNICAL FIRST IN  TEAMS WILL BE GOING OUT RIGHT  OR MYSELF, IT IS 3 '06 AND WE  ARE WE DO NOT HAVE  >> AND EVERYBODY SETTLED AND  SO YOU KNOW YOU. DO NOW.  >> COMMISSIONER EMRICH ARE YOU  THERE.  >> YES, MA'AM OKAY.  COMMISSIONER LINE WILL JOIN US  YEAH. SO WE'RE GOING TO PICK  UP WHERE WE LEFT OFF TO THE  >> THANK YOU MADAM I DO HAVE A  PRESENTATION IF YOU COULD PUT  THE SLIDE. SAME INFORMATION  THAT I SUBMITTED FOR THIS  AGENDA ITEM. I DID NOTE IN MY  MESSAGE TO COMMISSIONERS THAT  THERE WAS A MEMO THAT SHOULD  PROVIDE THEM A GOOD TIMELINE  THE RATIONALE FOR WHAT MY  DISCUSSION POINTS WOULD  SITTING AROUND FOR THIS ITEM  IN COMMUNITY. ALSO A TIME LINE  GRAPH APPROACH THAT I WOULD BE  USING VISUAL AIDS. THE  MAJORITY OF WHAT YOU'RE GOING  TO HEAR REPRESENT DOCUMENTS  THAT WERE ATTACHED TO THE  ACTUAL ITEM WE HAVE GOTTEN  MORE INFORMATION AND OVER LAST  COUPLE DAY REPLACE WRAPPED A  WHITE PEOPLE FOR THAT. SERVICE  THAT THEY ACTUALLY CREATED I  THOUGHT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL  TOO PROVIDE THE COMMISSION AN  OUTLINE OF WHAT THAT LOOKS  LIKE WHEN YOU START TALKING  ABOUT SOMETHING NEW TO CITY  WHICH IS REALLY HAVING A DEBT  MANAGEMENT POLICY WHICH IS  HOPEFULLY THE ULTIMATE OUTCOME  THAT WILL GET TO AS WE GO  THROUGH WHAT MY RECOMMENDATION  IS. SO WE GET INTO I DO. THIS  IS THE LAST COUPLE WHAT WE'RE  TALKING ABOUT TODAY, BACK. WE  TALK ABOUT THE OPTION THE BALL  35 MILLION GENERAL OBLIGATION  BOND AND 50 MILLION DOLLARS  START TAX. THAT'S WHERE WE  LEFT THE CHAR BALLOT LANGUAGE.  THE RESULTS AND MORE RESEARCH  REQUIRE THAT FIND MY PREVIOUS  GUIDANCE OF COMBINING THE  PREVIOUSLY MENTION IN THE  QUESTION BUT NOW GOING BACK TO  WHAT WE RECENTLY TALKED ABOUT  FROM THE SUMMER OF 2023. WE'RE  GOING GO BACKWARDS A LITTLE  BIT AS WE START PRESENTATION  YOU WILL REMEMBER THAT IN  2019. THE FIRST STUDY FOR NEW  POLICE HEADQUARTERS WAS  COMPLETED TO EXAMINE THE  CURRENT AND FUTURE NEEDS OF  THE LAW ENFORCEMENT OF  THE NORTH PORT POLICE  DEPARTMENT AND LAST FACE NEED  SIZE NEEDS PROBABLE  CONSTRUCTION COSTS IN HERE IS  A QUOTE FROM 2019 CONSULTANT  SUMMARY. BY CONSERVATIVE  ESTIMATES BASED ON CURRENT  THEY PLANNING AND DESIGN  STANDARD THE EXISTING FACILITY  IS OPERATING AT APPROXIMATELY  100% SPACE DEFICIT. IN OTHER  WORDS TO MEET THE SPACE  REQUIREMENTS FOR 2020.  STAFFING LEVELS, THE EXISTING  BUILDING WOULD HAVE TO  APPROXIMATELY DOUBLE IN SIZE.  FOR HAT YEARS AGO. THERE WERE  4 OPTIONS PROPOSED ALL OF  WHICH INCLUDED RENOVATIONS AND  ADDITIONS TO THE CURRENT  BUILDING. IN ADDITION TO A NEW  BUILDING FOR APPROXIMATELY  75 MILLION DOLLARS AT A COST  WITH AGAIN AGO. IN MARCH OF  THE WORLD SHUT BEFORE ANY  SIGNIFICANT MOVEMENT COULD YOU  MADE ON THE HEADQUARTERS.  ALWAYS CALL WAITING IN 2021.  HURRICANE SOUTHWEST. FLORIDA  IN THE CITY OF PORT AND A  33 MILLION DOLLARS THAT WAS A  LOT OF FOR THE PORT  HEADQUARTERS IN THE CAPITAL  FUN TO DO 2023. ALSO IN  NOVEMBER OF 2021. YOU WOULD  REMEMBER THAT THERE ANY  COMMISSION DIRECTED STAFF TO  RETURN THE BALLOT LANGUAGE FOR  A VOTER REFERENDUM IN UPCOMING  ELECTION. PUT ME IN THE  CHARTER AND ALLOW THE CITY TO  ORPHANED THAT INCURRED DEBT.  SO WE'RE ONLY ASKING TOO. THE  ALLOW THE TOOL THAT EVERY  OTHER MUNICIPALITY IN COUNTY  IN FLORIDA. HAS BEEN DOING  DECADES AS WE AS A REMINDER TO  VOTE NOT THE NEW YEAR THE CITY  HAS 0 ABILITY TO BORROW MONEY  WORKER DEBT OF ANY KIND  WITHOUT GOING. 2 REFERENDUM  STATED 1959 CHARTER WE'VE BEEN  MAINLY A PAY AS YOU GO  GOVERNMENT ENTIRE 65 YEARS TO  GET WORK. IS MEANT WORK FOR AS  LONG AS IT COULD WITH  HURRICANE IAN EXPOSE A SERIOUS  FOR ALL IN OUR AUTHORITY TO  SAFEGUARD OUR CITIZENS AS WELL  AS THEIR INVESTMENTS PORT  INFRASTRUCTURE.  >> WE BELIEVE WE ARE THE ONLY  KNOWN LOCAL GOVERNMENT  >> THE FORWARD IN 11 CITIES  AND 67 COUNTIES IN THE STATE  OF FLORIDA. THEY CAN ISSUE  DEBT WITHOUT PRIOR APPROVAL OF  THE VOTERS THAT REFERENDUM  TIME IT IS SIMPLY OUTDATED AND  NEED TO EVOLVE WITH THE GROWTH  THE CITY. MULTIPLE STORMS BUT  THE INTENSITY OF HURRICANE IAN  HIT THE CITY DURING THE SAME  SEASON. CITY MAY NOT BE ABLE  TO REBUILD OUR COFFERS OR NOT  THAT DEEP. MOST CITIES HAVE  AUTHORITY UNDER STATE LAW CITY  CHARTER AND OR LOCAL ORDINANCE  USE OPTIONS THAT THE STATE OF  FLORIDA BEFORE IT'S ALL LOCAL  GOVERNMENTS AT TIMES AT THE  END OF THESE TYPES OF THEY ARE  FORGIVEN IN TURNING THE GREAT  BUT THE CITY IS NOT ELIGIBLE  TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THOSE  TYPE OF PROGRAMS BECAUSE WE  CAN INCUR THE INITIAL DEBT.  DUE TO OUR CHARTER RESTRICT IN  APRIL OF 2022 SINCE THE STUDY.  STALLED DUE TO COVID AND  HURRICANE IN THE CITY ENTERED  INTO AN AGREEMENT TO BEFORE  MARKET ACTUAL ENGINEERING AND  CONSTRUCTION ADMINISTRATION  SERVICES. SINGLE SCHULTZ FOR A  NEW POLICE HEADQUARTERS IN THE  OPTION OF INNOVATING THE  CURRENT POLICE STATION. OR  SECOND OF 2023, THE  CONSULTANTS OPTIONS WERE  PRESENTED ITS STAFF WAS  DIRECTED TO MOVE THE PROJECT  FORWARD IDENTIFYING PURCHASED  AGO, SHE ATE THE PROPERTY  OWNER, EVERY TURN TO  COMMISSION FOR PURCHASE  APPROVAL FOR A NEW POLICE  HEADQUARTERS. THAT WAS ALSO  DIRECTED TO WORK WITH THE TO  PREPARE 30% CITE DRAINAGE IF  CONSTRUCTION PLANNED FOR TOTAL  CONSULTING FEE OF  APPROXIMATELY A MILLION  DOLLARS. ON JUNE 25TH  COMMISSION APPROVED. TO  COMMISSION APPROVED THE  PURCHASE OF 5 PARCELS LOCATED  NORTH TOLEDO BLADE BOULEVARD.  FOR NEW POLICE HEADQUARTERS  FOR APPROXIMATELY 2.7 MILLION  DOLLARS. DECEMBER 3RD STAFF  PRESENTED. RECOMMENDATIONS AND  HIGHLIGHTED WHAT OTHER  JURISDICTIONS IN OUR AREA WAS  SUCCESSFULLY DOING FOR DECADES  FOR CONSIDERATION. ON FEBRUARY  6 AT A COMMISSION WORKSHOP  STAFF PROPOSED LANGUAGE  STRUCTURE SIMILAR TO STOP A  SARASOTA COUNTY'S CHARTER  COMMISSION DIRECTED STAFF TO  INVESTIGATE THE POSSIBILITY OF  GOING TO A REFERENDUM IN  AUGUST OF 2025. IT INCLUDED  THE ABILITY TO BORROW FOR  DISASTER RECOVERY AS WELL AS  THE ABILITY TO BORROW UP TO  28 MILLION DOLLARS PER PROJECT  FOR SAFETY IN PUBLIC HEALTH  WITHOUT REFERENDUM. THE CITY  CANNOT BORROW ANY GENERAL  OBLIGATION BONDS WITHOUT A  MAJORITY VOTE OR APPROVAL THAT  IS STATE LAW. VOTING MORE THAN  28 MILLION DOLLARS PER PROJECT  USING GET IT WOULD REQUIRE  APPROVAL VO MAJORITY PUBLIC  VOTE AS WELL. THE CITY HAS  ROBUST SAFEGUARDS MECHANISM  FOR ACCOUNTABILITY IT WOULD  ALSO CREATE A DEBT MANAGEMENT  POLICY AS I MENTIONED EARLIER.  IN ADDITION DEBT ISSUANCE  REQUIRES WORKING WITH A NUMBER  OF INDEPENDENT PROFESSIONALS  TO ENSURE SUCCESSFUL  FINANCING. CENTER. ON 7 2024  DOING A SPECIAL COMING  COMMISSION MEETING ON THE  STAFFING CONSULTING PRESENTED  THE STUDY FINDINGS WHICH  INCLUDED MODEL THING YOU FROM  A 122 MILLION DOLLARS. TO  GROWTH OF 2065 100 MILLION  DOLLARS FOR GROWTH THE 2050  70 MILLION DOLLARS FOR GROWTH  BETWEEN 30 50 MILLION DOLLARS  TO COPE IN THE CURRENT GROWTH.  ON THE PD WAS WELL SUPPORTED  BY CITY COMMISSION AND  DIRECTED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH  A 122 MILLION ON A MODEL IN  ANSWER FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS,  INCLUDING IDENTIFYING FUNDING.  SOURCES. THE COMMISSION ALSO  DIRECTED STAFF TO RETURN DRAFT  LANGUAGE FOR A BALLOT QUESTION  COMBINING A REQUEST TO USE THE  50 MILLION FOR TAX AND BARRING  AUTHORITY AT 35 MILLION  DOLLARS. BOTH FOR THE NEW  HEADQUARTERS. STAFF HAS  RECEIVED A LOT OF COMMUNITY  SUPPORT FOR THE PEACE PROJECT  GREATLY APPRECIATED. STAFF  PERFORMED IN PERSON AND ONLINE  COMMUNITIES, BUT IN A  COMMUNITY TOWN HALL OR 21ST  2024. SO WE LISTEN AND WE SEE  BE BACK. AND THERE'S A LOT  HERE IN THE COMMENTS THAT HE'S  HAD QUITE A PROJECT NEEDED  FURTHER DUE DILIGENCE MOST ARE  ALL THE VOICES AGREE THAT A  POLICE HEADQUARTERS WAS NEEDED  BUT THE TIMING OF CONSTRUCTION  FUNDING SOURCES AND THE GROWTH  DATES WERE ALL PART OF THE  CONCERNS RAISED IN THAT  CONVERSATION. ALL PEOPLE FIRST  BASED ON COMMISSION DIRECTION  FROM OR 7 STAFF IDENTIFIED FOR  DOLLARS TO FUND THE REMAINDER  OF THE DESIGN DOCUMENTS FOR  THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS THE  COMMISSION APPROVE STAFF'S  RECOMMENDATION. NEWS 4 MILLION  DOLLARS. I DO FIND YOUR POINT  LEAVING APPROXIMATELY 3.5  MILLION DOLLARS OF GENERAL PUT  BALLOT. ON APRIL SECOND TO THE  COMMISSION MET WITH THE NORTH  PORT AREA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE  TO DISCUSSED. NEED TO USE  SURTAX OF THE FUNDING SOURCE  FOR THE POLICE PROJECT. THE  MAIN CONCERN WAS MOVING PRICE  BOULEVARD WINDING 86 TO 83 THE  OUT YEARS TO BE FUN FUNDED IN  A YET TO BE APPROVED SIRTEX  THIS PROPOSED RESTRUCTURE  WOULD PUSH BACK THE FACE TO  BUDGET WHICH WAS SCHEDULED TO  BE 15 YEARS FROM NOW TO ADD  MORE URGENT NEED NOW. BUT THE  CHAMBER MADE GOOD POINTS THAT  FOR OTHER SURTAX OF PRESS  AROUND THE STATE HAD FAILED  RECENT YEARS THOUGH SO TEXT  FILE. IT'S NOT A DONE DEAL IT  SHOULD NOT BE TREATED AS NOT  AND NOT WITHOUT ABSOLUTE  CERTAINTY. ALSO QUESTIONS  ABOUT WHY THE POLICE  HEADQUARTERS WAS INCLUDED IN  THE PREVIOUS ARE TAX LIST. AND  THIS IS A LARGE SCALE  INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT THEY  ARE NOT CONDITION PAIN OR  FOLKS ARE TAXED. THEY ARE  TYPICALLY BOUGHT IT AND YOU  PAY OVER 30 TO 40 YEARS. THIS  PROJECT WOULD CONSUME ROUGHLY  ONE-THIRD OF THE CITY'S 15  YEARS START EXPORT PHOTO, A  LOT OF THE PROJECT AND NEEDS  WOULD SUFFER BY LABEL REMOVAL.  BUT THIS IS YET AGAIN A PAY AS  YOU GO MENTALITY, IT IS NOT  SUSTAINABLE. IF YOU WANT TO  BUY HOUSES WE WERE TOLD TO PAY  AS YOU GO AND NOT BAR FOR WHAT  THEY CAN REPAY A LOAN WE KNOW  THAT THAT WOULD BE IMPROPER  INFEASIBLE THAT'S THE POSITION  OUR CITIES IT. CITY STAFF CITY  STAFF RESEARCHED ALL THE  OPTIONS CONSULTED WITH OUR  FINANCIAL ADVISORS. THE MOST  WE COULD COME UP WITH WAS THE  35 MILLION VOTER APPROVED IT  FOR THE MILLAGE INCREASE  50 MILLION DOLLARS IN SURTAX  BUT NO MILLAGE INCREASE IN AN  ESTIMATED 15 MILLION DOLLARS  BY SO PROPERTY, ACQUIRING  GRANITE STATE APPROPRIATIONS  AND OTHER CITY FUND TRANSFERS.  BUT THERE ARE TOO MANY I KNOW  THAT THIS IS TIME TO PROVIDE  TOTAL LEVEL OF COVER. IT'S  STILL FALL SHORT OF THE  122 MILLION ON A MODEL. THE  COMMISSION APPROVED. WHICH HAS  RECEIVED FEEDBACK THAT THAT  PRICE IS ON THE HIGH SIDE. SO  THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, I'VE  BEEN CONTEMPLATING THE BEST  OPTION THAT I BELIEVE WE  SHOULD CONSIDER. APPROACH THAT  WILL ALLOW FOR THE LONG-TERM  NEEDS OF THE CITY TO BE  HANDLED RESPONSIBLY IN  PROVIDING MUCH NEEDED FACILITY  FOR. POLICE DEPARTMENT. I  REQUESTED PUT TOGETHER A  ESTIMATE OF PROJECTS THEY KNEW  THAT WOULD BE NEEDED OVER THE  NEXT 15 NEED 10 TO 15 YEARS  THAT TOTAL WAS ONE 0.8 BILLION  DOLLARS. THESE NEEDS ARE IN  LINE WITH THE CITY OF OUR AGE  THAT IS GROWING AT A STRUCTURE  TO MAINTAIN WE PLACE AND OTHER  PROJECTS TO COMPLETE AS A  PRIVATE PART IS OUR INABILITY  TO CLEARLY SEE HOW WE TO FUND  OUT. THAT WOULD ABLE GIVE US  SOME SOBERING NEWS THAT THE  HURRICANE IAN INSPECTIONS WERE  DOING IN OUR COST. COST PLACE  THESE ITEMS TO THE DEBT THAT  WOULD DAMAGE CITY FACILITIES  APPROXIMATELY 8 MILLION  DOLLARS. NOT ALL OF THAT IS  THE COST OF GENERAL BUT ONE  EXAMPLE THAT IS IN THE GENERAL  FUND. THE ENTIRE WITH THE  MORGAN CENTER WHICH HAS HELPED  AND HELD UP. THE REPLACEMENT  OF THE GYM. VASCO BASKETBALL  FLOOR. WELL WE HAVE WORKED  THROUGH INSURANCE THAT THEY  PROCESSED THE REPAIR OF THAT  WIND FLOW IS APPROXIMATELY  2 MILLION DOLLARS. AS THE CITY  MAKES PERMANENT REPAIRS WILL  REIMBURSE SOME COSTS AND THAT  THE MOBILE IF I READ THE  BALLOTS FOR POSSIBLE  REIMBURSEMENT PROCESS THAT  WILL TAKE YEARS. WE STILL DO  NOT HAVE RELIABLE TIMETABLE ON  WHEN THOSE FUNDS WILL BE  RECEIVING THE THE SOURCE WILL  MAKE THE CITY HALL BUT THEY  WILL HELP. THAT IS WORKING ON  A PLAN THAT WOULD PRIORITIZE  IN PHASE IN OUR RECOVERY  EFFORTS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.  IF THE CITY EXPERIENCES,  SIGNIFICANT HURRICANE THIS  SEASON AND ENCOURAGE MORE  DAMAGE TO ALREADY DAMAGED  BUILDINGS OR THAT HAVE NOT  BEEN REPAIRED YET. WE WILL WE  WILL WIN DIFFICULT TO SEEKING  REIMBURSEMENT FROM INSURANCE  AND DAMAGES. IF WE HAVE NOT BE  PAIRED THE CURRENT THEM AND  ADDING MORE BURDEN TO OUR TAX  PAYERS. THE CITY IS NOT PUT  THE PAPER ALL OF THE CAPITAL  REPAIRS AND PROJECTS WITHOUT  ACTION INTO MAYBE WE NEED THE  CITY TOWARDS THE FISCAL CLIFF.  WE BELIEVE WAS MAKE THE  CHARTER AMENDMENT OUR FIRST  STEP. OUR INABILITY TO BORROW  CUP THE CITY FOR 2 AS THE VOTE  IS ALLOW US TO HAVE AUTHORITY  WEEK AND THEN DO THE POLICE  HEADQUARTERS AS A FUTURE  STEPS. BUT WE HAVE A  RESPONSIBILITY TO ALLOW FOR A  SUCCESSFUL FUTURE OF THE CITY.  SO WHAT STEPS THAT WE TAKE  BEFORE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT  ANALYSIS TO SEE HOW OUR GROWTH  WILL PAY FOR GROWTH. THE CITY  NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A  REASONABLE PLAN FORECAST THE  POSITIVE IMPACT OF ALL THE  VARIOUS BOTH AREAS IN THE  CITY. DEPENDABLE DETERMINATION  OF EXPECTED IMPACT FEES WE  WILL COLLECT IN THE COMING  YEARS BASED RAISING RATES AND  THE NEED TO POTENTIALLY RAISE  THEM IN THE IN THE FUTURE. SO  WE'RE NOT PLAYING CATCH-UP  PROVIDING GOOD VALUE FOR OUR  FUTURE. IT WAS ALSO FISCAL  ANALYSIS TO CREATE A PLAN FOR  PAYING FOR THE ONE 0.8 BILLION  DOLLARS IN CAPITAL NEEDS.  THERE ARE MULTIPLE WAYS TO PAY  FOR CAPITAL IN HIGH-COST NEWS,  NOT ALL DEBT INCURRED MOST  PEOPLE THERE ARE OTHER  INSTRUMENTS AVAILABLE. WHAT  THE CITY HAD BORROWED OR WILL  ALLOW OPTIONS SUCH AS CAPITAL  LEASES LINES OF CREDIT AND  COPS AS WE PREVIOUSLY  MENTIONED A DAY. BUT ALL THAT  IS CALCULATED THOUGHT HOLDER  SPOKE SPOKE ABOUT DECISION  MAKING THAT WOULD BE APPROVED  BY THE COMMISSION NOT CITY  STAFF IN A PUBLIC SETTING.  THERE ARE INTERNAL AND  EXTERNAL OR INTERNAL CONTROLS  IN PLACE JUST LIKE IN ALMOST  ALL THE OTHER CITIES AND  COUNTIES WHERE THIS IS A  NORMAL PART OF MUNICIPAL  ADMINISTRATION. AND JUST LIKE  MOST INDIVIDUAL SEEK TO BORROW  MONEY THE STATE BASED WILL BE  BASED ON ITS CREDIT RATING. IT  WOULD IT CAN REASONABLY BE  EXPECTED TO PAY BACK WITHOUT  OVEREXTENDING ITSELF. A GOOD  EXAMPLE OF USING ONE OF THE  BONDING AUTHORITY WILL BE  WARMING IT'S AN ENTERPRISE HAS  REVENUE SOURCE, IT MAKES  HUNDREDS OF $1000 ANNUALLY IF  WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO BORROW  WE HAVE A BOND TO FINANCE  NEEDED INFRASTRUCTURE  IMPROVEMENTS WITHOUT INCURRING  ANY ADDITIONAL TAXPAYER  BURDEN. SO HOW HOW WE FUND OUR  LARGE-SCALE INTEREST STRUCTURE  MEET SURTAX IS NOT ANSWER. WE  OFFERED THE 50 MILLION DOLLARS  IN SURTAX IN CURRENT LIST TO  SOLVE A PROBLEM FOR TODAY IN  OTHER SIRTEX PROJECTS TOWING A  BOX WITH 22 MILLION DOLLARS  WERE CONSIDERED TO HELP THE  NEED AS WELL. BUT THEY HAVE TO  BE A PLAN TO ADDRESS THE  SURTAX EVEN THE 22 MILLION  DOLLARS IN DEFERRED PROJECTS  NEED TO BE IDENTIFIED TOWARD  POTENTIAL FUNDING SOURCE FOR  THOUGH EVEN THOUGH THEY WOULD  IF THEY RE TO BE CONSIDERED  FOR THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS.  WE NEED TO PROVIDE PLANT OR  ANY SORT TEXAS ADJUSTMENT  BETTER THAN MOVING THEM TO  UNFUNDED IF POSSIBLE. SO WHEN  WE GO FROM HERE AND HOW DO WE  NOT SACRIFICE OUR FUTURE  SUCCESS. WELL, A MEETING  TODAY'S CHALLENGES. HERE ARE  SOME RECOMMENDATIONS THAT I AM  PROVIDING TODAY. WE MAKE  FIXING A LONGSTANDING PROBLEM  OF NOT BEING ABLE TO BORROW  MONEY. BUT THEY TAUGHT OR  CHANGE THE FIRST STEP BEFORE  WE DO ANYTHING ELSE. IT'S VERY  UNREALISTIC TO THINK THE CITY  CAN SUSTAIN A PAY AS YOU GO  FINANCIAL MODEL THAT HAS  PROPOSED CHARTER AMENDMENT  LANGUAGE AND WITH COMMISSION  DIRECTION FIND A LOT OF THE  BALLOT QUESTION FOR THE STAFF  RECOMMENDED NOVEMBER GENERAL  ELECTION. CAUSE US TO BRING  BACK AND GET A RECEIPT. SAID  ON THE DIRECTION PUT THIS ON  AUGUST BALLOT WHICH WE CAN  TALK ABOUT IF THE COMMITTEE IF  THE COMMISSION DOES CHOOSE TO  MAKE THAT DECISION. CITY  COMMISSIONER STATED A DESIRE  TO CONTINUE BUILDING A  122 MILLION DOLLAR QUARTER TO  STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED THE  MODEL BUT THE FULL FUNDING HAS  NOT BEEN IDENTIFIED FOR EITHER  OPTION OF OUR MODEL OF A  100 MILLION DOLLARS WITH A  122 MILLION DOLLARS. RECENTLY  COMMISSION APPROVED A REQUEST  TO COMPLETE THE DESIGN CITING  CONSTRUCTION PLANNING TO WANT  TO MISS IT. COSTING 4 MILLION  DOLLARS. WHAT IS THE DESIGN  DONE THE CITY WOULD BE  COMMITTED TO A MODEL BETWEEN  100 MILLION A 122 MILLION. I  DO. IT ALSO MEAN THAT THE  FINAL PLANNED. COMPETED IN THE  NEXT YEAR PROXIMATE SPRING OF  2025. WE'LL HAVE A VERY LOW  TURNAROUND TIME FOR THE GNP  THE GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE.  IT WE MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE  FULLY IDENTIFIED A 100 BILLION  DOLLARS TO BEGIN CONSTRUCTION.  IF I FALL SHORT THEY WERE NOT  PREPARED IT MAY COST MORE  MONEY IN ORDER TO CHANGE THOSE  COMPLETED PLANTS. SO I SUGGEST  GET THIS FROM THE OTHER WAY  AROUND. BASED ON INFORMATION  FROM A PROJECT MANAGER WE'RE  AT A TURNING POINT IN THE  DESIGN PROCESS. IF WE MOVE  FORWARD WITH 30% DESIGN WERE  TO WONDER IS THAT IS IT WOULD  TAKE APPROXIMATELY 9 MINUTES.  AND WE WOULD BE COMMITTED TO A  MODERATE WOULDN'T READ CHANGES  CAN BE MADE TO SCALE DOWN THE  DOWN IN PRICE INSIDE. BUT IT  WOULD CHANGES GO. BUT THERE  POTENTIALLY CAUSE A LITTLE BIT  MORE. THE CONSULTING COMPLETED  ON WE CAN BUILD WHAT WE CAN  AFFORD BASED ON THE SUCCESSFUL  BOMBING AUTHORITY OF  28 MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE  PROJECT FOR SAFETY PUBLIC  HEALTH THAT IS PROPOSED TO THE  CHARM OF IT OUR GRANTS AND  APPROPRIATION FOR STATE  PARTNERS WE ARE ACTIVELY  SOLICITING FOR FINANCIAL  SYSTEM WILL CONTINUE AND DO SO  THROUGH THE NEXT 2025  LEGISLATIVE SESSION SO WE WILL  KNOW THAT AMOUNT WILL AFTER  THE 9 MONTHS HAS PASSED. WE'RE  ALSO WORKING WITH OUR PARTNERS  TO POPULAR SURE WE ARE ABLE TO  TRANSFER FUNDS FOR THE CURRENT  POLICE STATION. IS THAT WILL  CONTINUE TO WORK WITH  COMMISSION AND ANALYZE ANY  DECISION THE PROPERTY TO SELL.  EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE SEVERAL  FEW OPTIONS OF SIGNIFICANCE  FOR CONSIDERATION. TAKING MORE  TIME ALL WORKING ON THE  AFOREMENTIONED ITEMS ENSURES  THE PATHWAYS WILL BE MUCH  CLEARER BY THE END OF THE 9  MONTHS WHICH IS FOLLOWING YOU.  FALL ELECTION. AT THE POINT  THAT MATCH. YOU WE CAN WORK ON  COMPETING IN PHASES SO FACING  WILL COST MORE, BUT WE CAN DO  WHAT WE CAN AFFORD. THE CITY  IS PURCHASE OF LAND ON NORTH  CAMINO BLADE ARE COMPLETED 30%  DESIGN WORK IN OUR DECISION TO  CONTINUE THE MOMENTUM OF  DESIGN. ONE DESIGN SHOWS OUR  COMMITMENT TO OUR POLICE  DEPARTMENT IN OUR FAITH AND  CONFIDENCE IN OUR TEAM. THE  PROJECT WILL NOT BE BOZELL  LEFT UNFINISHED WE CANNOT DO  THAT. ANOTHER BENEFIT IS TO  LOOK TO DEAL WITH THAT PERIOD  WILL GIVE US MORE TIME TO  COMPLETE THE TO STUDY THAT I  MENTIONED TO HELP THE CITY'S  DECISION MAKER AND ECONOMIC  DEVELOPMENT STUDY I'M GETTING  A LOT OF THE CHANGES MADE TO  THE ULDC WAS ADOPTED THIS  SUMMER TO MAXIMIZE COMMERCIAL  OPPORTUNITIES IN THE CITY.  THIS WILL CREATE A PLAN TO  SHOW THE REVENUE OPPORTUNITIES  AND DIRECT STAFF OF THE MOST  EFFECTIVE WAYS TO MAXIMIZE  ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. GOOD  MORNING STUDIES ARE YOU DOING  SOME OF THIS WORK. SO YOU'RE  NOT STARTING FROM SCRATCH, BUT  IT WILL NEED TO BE  SUPPLEMENTED TO APPROVE THE  ENTIRE CITY A NEW ZONE WE'RE  GOING NEED ULDC. FINANCIAL  CONDITION NOW SAYS WHEN YOU  BUT WHAT USE RATIO THAT THE  CITY COMPARISONS GRADING OF  THE SEASON CONDITIONS IT WOULD  EARLY WARNING SIGNS OF  FINANCIAL STRAIN. IT WOULD  ALSO IDENTIFY AND REALIZE  FUNDING SOURCES MAXIMIZE NO  FUNDING SOURCES AND JUSTIFY  ANY FUTURE MILLAGE INCREASE.  WE ALSO NEED TO PREPARE A  COMPREHENSIVE LONG-TERM  CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN FOR  THE CITY. THE PLANE ENCOMPASS  ALL CITY SERVICES, INCLUDING  GENERAL GOVERNMENT 5 DISTRICT  VOTING DRAINAGE DISTRICT SOLID  WASTE DISTRICT IN WASTE. AND  SO WASTE IN UTILITY SERVICES.  THE PLAN WILL INCLUDE A NEED  ASSESSMENTS FINANCIAL  PROJECTIONS AS WELL AS THE  FRAMEWORK PRIORITIZING OUR  NEEDS THE OBJECTIVE WOULD BE  TO PROVIDE STRATEGIC ROADMAP  FOR CITYWIDE CAPITAL  IMPROVEMENT ALIGNING WITH THE  CITY'S GROWTH DEVELOPING THE  THE FINANCIAL SUSTAINABILITY.  THE PLAN WOULD INSURE CAPITAL  INVESTMENTS STRATEGIC  COST-EFFECTIVE BEEN ALIGNED  WITH THE NEEDS PRIORITIES OF  OUR RESIDENTS AND  STAKEHOLDERS. BASED ON ADVICE  2 DIFFERENT SPECIAL COUNSEL  THERE ARE SOME PATHWAYS TO  FURTHER EXPLORE USING CAPITAL  LEASES TO PAY TALKED ABOUT IN  THE DAY STAND AT NO PUBLIC  REFERENDUM WHY IT THAT YOU  YEAR. ALSO LEASE PURCHASE NO  PUBLIC WITH ACQUIRED INSERT  TAX COULD BE USED FOR THOSE  PAYMENTS. EITHER WAY WE.  COUNCIL HAS STATED EARLIER  TODAY RECOMMENDED A BOND  VALIDATION. IN THE COURT  SYSTEM 20 THE ROUTE. THERE ARE  SOME DRAWBACKS TO WHAT I'M  PROPOSING IN THAT IS THE  CONSTRUCTION PRICE WILL ONLY  CONTINUE TO RISE BASED ON  MARKET CONDITIONS. IF WE USE  THE POOR MILLION DOLLARS TO  COMPLETE DESIGN NOW WHICH WE  BELIEVE CAN BE PAID OUT IT  PERMITS INSTEAD OF JUST ONE.  IT BEFORE WE JUST WHAT TO DO A  BALANCE THAT YOU CONTINUE TO  DO THAT IT WOULD STILL ALLOW  US TO GET THERE AND GET THE  DESIGN WORK DONE TO MAKE SURE  THAT WE DOING DUE DILIGENCE  ALONG THAT PATHWAY. IF YOU  ACTUALLY CONTINUE THE PATHWAY  THAT WE'RE ON AND USE THE  4 MILLION DOLLARS TO PAY FOR  THE 122 MILLION DOLLARS. I'M  IT WOULD ACTUALLY COST YOU  111 MILLION DOLLARS. THAT'S  BECAUSE THE 120 MILLION  DOLLARS WAS BASEBALL YOU  STARTING THE PROJECT AT A  LATER POINT IN TIME. YOU'VE  ACTUALLY APPROVED THE POOR  MILLION DOLLARS EARLIER THEN  WAS PROJECTED WIN THAT  122 MILLION DOLLAR NUMBER WAS  GIVEN TO YOU SO THAT'S WHY  THAT PROJECT WOULD SAVE YOU  MONEY NOW IF YOU KEPT GOING ON  THAT SAME PATHWAY. THE POLICE  DEPARTMENT HAVE TO INCUR MORE  COSTS PORTABLE TRAILER THAT  THE CURRENT STATION THEY ARE  ALREADY IN THE BUDGET FOR THIS  YEAR THAT WOULD BE IN THE  BUDGET FOR A COUPLE MORE  YEARS. IF SO THE PROJECT DOWN  AS I'M RECOMMENDING TO GET THE  MONEY KNOW WHAT YOU WILL BE  BUILDING IN THE FALL. IN  ADDITION TO THE INFORMATION  THAT I'VE JUST GIVEN YOU ALSO  HAD SEVERAL ATTACHMENTS TO THE  DOCUMENTS FOR THIS ITEM ONE  WAS ONE THAT SHOWED YOU WHAT  THOSE AROUND US HAVE BORROWED  RECENTLY IT FOR GENERAL  OBLIGATION BONDS AS WELL AS  OTHER DEBT ISSUANCE THAT SHES  PROMISE EVERY NEW SO BALL IN  LOANS. COPS SHOWED YOU WANT. I  WOULD YOU KNOW WHAT YOU SAW IN  THOSE MODELS THAT THERE'S NOT  A LOT GENERAL OBLIGATION BAR,  THE MAJORITY OF THE BARRING  FROM THE OTHER ISSUE IS THAT  WE DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO. SO WE  DO AND I THINK WE WILL HAVE  THE ABILITY TO TAKE CARE OF  OURSELVES, ASKING THE PUBLIC  FOR EVERY SINGLE THING ALL THE  TIME. BUT WE DO NEED THOSE  OTHER BAR AND AUTHORITIES. IT  WAS ALSO MENTIONED EARLIER  SOME OF OUR SISTER CITIES HAD  LIKE WE ARE WHAT I ALSO  INCLUDED THAT IN THE DOCUMENT  PORT PORT ST. LUCIE CAPE  CORAL. IT WAS ABOUT 6 OF THEM  AND YOU COULD SEE THAT ALL OF  THEM HAD THEIR AUTHORITY  CHANGED I THINK THE LATEST ONE  WAS 2000. BUT ALL OF THEM IT  HAD AUTHORITY CHANGE SO THAT  THEY COULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF  THE DEBT ISSUE THAT'S ALLOWED  BY THE STATE IN ADDITION TO  GOING OUT FOR GENERAL  OBLIGATION BONDS REQUIRE OVER  APPROVAL, NO MATTER WHAT. BUT  COLLECTIVELY WHAT WE ARE  HOPING THAT WE'RE SHOWING YOU  IS THAT IF WE WERE TO TAKE A  DIFFERENT APPROACH TO GETTING  TO OUR PARTICULAR GOAL, THE  ULTIMATE GOAL YOU'RE GOING TO  SEE IS ONE THAT TAKES THE.  MODEL THAT WE HAVE.  AND BUT THE CHARTER AMENDMENT  AND MAKE IT THE VERY FIRST  THING WHICH WILL ALLOW US TO  BE ABLE TO BEFORE RECOVERY AS  NEEDED. TAKE CARE OF OUR  PUBLIC HEALTH HEALTH AND  SAFETY. IT WILL STILL ALWAYS  GO OFF OF GEO FOOTBALL  APPROVAL, EVEN WHEN WE NEEDED  OUR INFRASTRUCTURE  IMPROVEMENTS FOR LARGE UPFRONT  COSTS WOULD BE CUT WOULD BE  TREMENDOUSLY HELPED OUT WITH  THIS CHARTER MOVE IT. REVENUE  BONDS AS I GAVE THE EXAMPLE  FOR WARM MINERAL SPRINGS WOULD  BE ABLE TO UTILIZE ABOUT  INCURRING ANY OTHER TAX PAYER  DEBT. COPS AND LEASES AS WE  TALKED ABOUT EARLIER BEING  ABLE TO FURTHER EVALUATE NEED  OR THE USE FOR THOSE VEHICLES  AS WELL AS LIKE THE DIFFERENT  WAYS CITIES MUNICIPALITIES CAN  TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THOSE IN  STATE AS I SAID THE STATE WAS  OFFERING A LOAN PROGRAM THAT  MAY HAVE BEEN FORGIVEN SOME  POINT IN TIME WE WERE NOT EVEN  ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT  BASED LIMITED BARRING ABILITY.  I NOTICED A LOT AND THOUGH THE  SITUATION TEST SORT OF GONE  FROM THE COURSE OF 2019 TO  TODAY IN OUR CHARTER AMENDMENT  AS ISSUES EVEN EXISTED EVEN  LONGER THAN THAT, BUT THIS IS  INFORMATION THAT WE HOPE THAT  YOU FIND HELPFUL IN YOU DO NOT  HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION TODAY  BASED ON EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE  SAYING THAT WE'RE HOPING THAT  YOU WILL MAKE ONE IN THE VERY  NEAR FUTURE, ESPECIALLY IF YOU  DO NOT RESET IN THE DIRECTION  TO APPEAR ONLY AUGUST BALLOT  WHICH IS DEADLINE IS IN MAY SO  WE WOULD HOPE THAT YOU WOULD  BE SAYING THAT AS WE TARGET  THE NOVEMBER ELECTION FOR  WHATEVER CHOICES THEY MAKE.  THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR I WILL  STOP BY THERE IN TURN IT OVER  TO THE CITY ATTORNEY WHO WOULD  LIKE TO SPEAK.  >> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR I  JUST WANT TO REMIND THE  COMMISSION THAT OUR OTHER  SPECIAL COUNSEL ATTORNEY CHRIS  ROWE IS STILL A TWO-MAN TO THE  MEETING VIRTUALLY WITH A HEART  STOPPING WORK. WELL. SO MANY  OF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THAT  RELATE TO THESE ASSESSMENTS  THAT TAKE AND YOU MAY WANT TO  CONSIDER PRIORITIZING THOSE  THE NEXT 30 MINUTES.  >> ALL VICE MAYOR THAT CITY  MANAGER THINKS THAT WAS MY  OPINION EXTREMELY COACH  APPROACH TO THIS WHOLE THING I  MEAN IT DOES IT DOES. PROPERLY  PUT IT ALL IN PERSPECTIVE.  GIVES US GENERAL ROAD MAP.  THAT WE NEED TO MOVE TOWARDS  YOU KNOW PERSONALLY I I YOU  KNOW I CONCURRENCE OF SAID MY  EARLIER YOU KNOW I THINK THE  FIRST STEP IS IS ADDRESSING  THE ELEPHANT ROOM, LET'S DEAL  WITH THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL  IT'S TIME THE CITY GREW UP  TIME THAT CITIZENS PUT ITS  FAITH AND ITS LEADERSHIP. IF  FOLKS FOR US, IT NEEDS TO  BELIEVE IN US. IF THEY ARE  UNHAPPY WITH JOB WE DO DOWN  THE ROAD AND THEY NEED TO  REPLACE BY GOD THEY NEED TO  GIVE US TOOLS IN THE TOOL BOX  TO DO THE JOB PROPERLY. WE  JUST HAVE TO BE ABLE TO DO IT  OR WE TOO ARE CITIZENS CITY  SERIOUS THANK YOU FOR THE  EFFORT PUT INTO THIS SURE  EVERYBODY ELSE WANTS TO GET ON  THEIR BOOKS WELL SO. THEY CALL  OLD.  >> I MY SPIRIT JUST ALSO LIKE  TO SAY THAT I WILL GET THE  TALKING POINTS OF WHAT I JUST  WENT OVER TO THE CLERK IN SOME  OF THE OTHER DOCUMENTS THAT  WERE MEANT HELP YOU AS BOARD  DO YOUR DECISION-MAKING  PROCESS SO THAT THEY CAN POST  A LOT WITH THE PUBLIC TO VIEW  AS WELL. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.  >> I'M THEM. I THANK YOU MADAM  MAYOR, I VICE MAYOR'S  DOCUMENTS WERE VERY HELPFUL.  PARTICULARLY IN HELPING ME  REALLY IDENTIFY WHAT THE  ISSUES ARE AND AND ABILITY TO  BORROW.  >> IT'S FUNDAMENTAL BUT THE  WORK DOES NOT STOP THERE. WE  HAVE A REVENUE PROBLEM. AND WE  NEED TO FIGURE IT OUT. I I'D  LIKE YOUR TO DO A DEEPER  ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STUDY,  KNOW WE'RE GOING TO A VERY  PAINFUL REZONING PROCESS. I  WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET  TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE WITH  THAT. SO WE DON'T HAVE TO DRAG  ANOTHER COMMISSION AND THE  COMMUNITY ABOUT PROCESS. AGAIN  IN THE NEAR TERM. I REALLY  REALLY REALLY WOULD LIKE TO  SEE THAT FINANCIAL CONDITION  ANALYSIS AND GET SOME  PROFESSIONAL RECOMMENDATIONS  IN TERMS OF HOW WE NEED TO  ADDRESS OUR REVENUE ISSUE.  CERTAINLY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT  PLAYS A PART OF THAT SO I SEE  THOSE 2 REPORTS GOING  TOGETHER. AND I REALLY LIKE  THE IDEA OF A COMPREHENSIVE  LONG-TERM CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT  PROCESS MY SENSE OF OUR  CURRENT PROCESS IT'S LIKE ALL  THESE INDEPENDENT THINGS  BUBBLING UP. I THINK WE NEED  TO LOOK AT THE TOTALITY OF  WHAT WE NEED TO DO AND SO  FIGURE OUT PATH FORWARD WITH  THAT. I I DO YOU KNOW YOU  MENTIONED WE DON'T REALLY HAVE  TO MAKE A DECISION TODAY. BUT  WHEN DO WE NEED TO MAKE A  DECISION ON THE POLICE DESIGN  WE'RE AT 30% WHICH I  UNDERSTAND IS A POINT OF NO  RETURN. SO THAT PRIORITY FOR  SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.  >> YES, YES, THEY HAVE IN 2  THINGS ONE YES. 30% THAT WERE  WE WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THE  PROJECT MOVING FORWARD BECAUSE  LIKE I SAID YOU KNOW WHAT TO  LOSE THE MOMENTUM SO THIS  THERE'S 2 WAYS YOU CAN DO THAT  ONE YOU COULD SAY. YES WE WE  KNOW WITH A GREAT DEAL OF  CERTAINTY THAT WE'RE GOING TO  BUILD A MODEL BETWEEN A TO 22  AND WE CAN SAY, YES WE WILL  KEEP GOING WITH THEM ON THAT.  SOME OF THE FUNDING WE NEED TO  LOOK AT WHICH IS WHY I  MENTIONED THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE  TO PAY ALL THAT FOR ME YOU  KNOW NOT AT ONCE BECAUSE  CAPITAL REPAIRS FROM WHAT OUR  GREAT SENATOR TOLD US THE  BUILDING SO THAT WOULD BE VERY  HELPFUL AND SECOND WHAT YOU  CAN DO THAT IS TO MAKE SURE  THAT YOU AT EAST IDENTIFY LIKE  2 MILLION DOLLARS TO BUT OVER  IN CIP RIGHT NOW IF YOU SAID  YOU KNOW WHAT LET'S WAIT YOU  HAVE THE MONEY THERE IN ORDER  KEEP THE PROJECT GOING AND YOU  SHOW YOUR INVESTMENT IN THE  PROJECT IN THE DESIGN WORK.  BUT WHEN YOU CHOSE TO GET  READY. SO IT'S EITHER WAY WE  BUT FOR THE PROJECT TO KEEP  MOVING FORWARD GETTING TO THE  END BUT YOU WOULD HAVE TO  DIDN'T HAVE A CERTAIN LEVEL OF  CONFIDENCE THAT YES. WE'RE  GOING TO THE MODEL BETWEEN NOT  THAT TO HONEST AND SAY IT THAT  THEN TO YOUR POINT ABOUT THE  OTHER THING IS YOU MENTIONED  WHICH WERE THE 2 STUDIES WE'VE  USED TO GOING TO DO SOME OF  OUR ECONOMIC WORK SO GETTING  TO DO THE REST OF IT MAY NOT  BE AS HEAVY A LIFT IN TAKE  SOMEONE IS THAT THEY WOULD  LIKE SCRATCH. AND ALSO OUR PFM  FINANCIAL ADVISORS THEY'RE  VERY FAMILIAR WITH US AS WELL  SO HAVING THEM ALREADY OWN  WARREN ENGAGED IN THIS  PROCESS. BUT MAYBE NOT TAKE  THERE'S A LOT AND I SAY THAT  BECAUSE NORMALLY WE THINK OF 9  MONTHS FOR STUDY TO BE DONE.  WE FEEL LIKE THIS ONE SHOULD  COME IN A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF  TIME RIGHT.  >> THAT ONE OF THE THINGS YOU  AND YOU'RE A DOCUMENT IN SORT  OF A PHASED APPROACH. I HATE  BASED APPROACHES BUT I GUESS  MY QUESTION MORE FOR CHANGE.  IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY IN  TERMS OF ALL THE VARIOUS  COMPONENTS OF YOUR PLAN THAT  YOU FEEL COULD BE PHASED  WITHOUT JEOPARDIZING ANY OF  THE GOALS YOU HAVE SAID THAT  NEW FACILITY.  >> YOU'LL BE ONLY FACING THAT  WE COULD DISCUSS WOULD BE THE  SHELL.  >> ALL THOSE OTHER COMPONENTS  ARE THINGS THAT YOU BELIEVE  ARE ESSENTIAL RIGHT AWAY DAY  ONE. WHICH TRANSLATES TO.  >> DO GO LOWER THAN THAT AND  ALL ARE THAT BILLY THESE JAIL  WITH THE MAIN THING THAT TAKES  YOU FROM ONE 22 TO 100 NOT  JUST TAKE IT.  >> THAT MEANT THAT THE MAIN  THING CERTAIN I I GOING TO A  100 MILLION AND SHINGLE FOLKS  HERE THERE AND A EXPAND ON  THAT, BUT I BELIEVE IT CUTS  OUT SOME OF REDUCES SOME OF  THE BUILDINGS SIZE AND TAKES  OUT SOME OF THE OF ADDITIONAL  LIKE THE FUEL YEAH I MEAN WITH  THIS SPACING GOING FROM ONE  '09 TO ABOUT THE MAJORITY  BECAUSE THE SO THERE THERE  >> I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT  NUMBER WANT TO SAY 9 MILLION  DOLLARS THAT WAS ALLOCATED TO  SHELVE IT WOULD DROP DOWN FROM  30,000 SQUARE FEET OF SHELF  SPACE DOWN TO LIKE 6, 6, SO  IT'S NOT AS FUNCTIONAL THE  SHELF SPACE I MEAN IT'S STILL  THERE FOR MORE GROWTH BUT THAT  ALSO DID INCLUDE SEVERAL OF  YOU KNOW CANOPIES AROUND THE  BUILD FACILITY. I THINK THE  FUELING STATION CAME OUT THIS  THERE IS A LOT COMPONENTS LIKE  THAT THE SIZE OF THE IN TOWN  VEHICLE IMPOUND YARD WAS MUCH  SMALLER WAS NOT ENCLOSED  PROTECTED AS WELL AS IT SHOULD  BE FOR THE FACILITY. THAT'S  WHERE.  >> I KNEW OKAY. COMMISSIONER  MCDOWELL.  >> WELL THAT'S A LOT TO ABSORB  YOU KNOW READING THE MEMO WAS  A LOT TO ABSORB AND HEARING IT  AGAIN IS A LOT SORT.  >> I HAVE TO ADMIT, I'M VERY  CONFUSED. BECAUSE FOR THE PAST  ONE YEAR TO 5. ALL WE'VE HEARD  IS WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING  WITH THIS POLICE STATION WE  HAVE TO DO SOMETHING TIME IS  OF THE ESSENCE. THEY'RE LITTLE  TINY SHOE BOXES COST. GROWTH  IS NOT HELPING THEIR PROBLEM.  I'M HAVING THESE POTENTIAL  TRAILERS IS NOT GOING TO HELP  VERY EFFICIENT SEAS. IT'S  GOING TO DELAY WHICH WE ALL  KNOW IT'S GOING TO INCREASE  COSTS. SO WE GO FROM WE HAVE  TO ACT WE HAVE TO DO THAT AND  IT WAS ASKED. TO DO THE 30%  DESIGN AND THEN HEY WHAT DO WE  WANT TO DO FOR THE NEXT STEP  WHICH WAS THE 100% DESIGN THE  ONE 22. 2065 MILE. SO I'M I'M.  I HAVING TROUBLES WRAPPING MY  HEAD AROUND WHY ALL OF A  SUDDEN WE'RE GONNA PUT THE  BRAKES ON. AND THEN WORK ON A  CHARTER AMENDMENT. I  APPRECIATE THE FACT IT'S NOT  GOING TO SIT ON A SHELF. BUT  IF WE'RE GOING TO WORK ON A  CHARTER AMENDMENT. OBVIOUSLY  WE HAVE TO DISCUSS WHAT THAT'S  GOING TO LOOK LIKE WHAT  HAPPENS TO THE PROJECT. YOU  KNOW WHEN WHEN WILL IT BE  TAKEN OFF THE SHELF WHATEVER  THAT CHILL LOOKS LIKE. AND  ACTUALLY STARTED TO BE  IMPLEMENTED. YOU KNOW I I  LISTEN TO THE TOWN HALL AND IT  WAS IT WAS. PRETTY MUCH  DECIDED WE HAVE TO AND NOW  IT'S AND ABOUT FACE. THERE'S A  LOT OF QUESTIONS I HAVE WITH  THIS NEW APPROACH, ESPECIALLY  WITH THE TRAILERS. TRAILERS  WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO GO I  THINK CAN BE HOOKED UP TO CITY  WATER CITY SEWER ELECTRICAL  THAT CAN STEP WE HAVE THOSE  ARE COSTS THAT COULD ACTUALLY  BE USED. FOR THIS PLAYSTATION.  PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS MADE IT  SOUND LIKE HEY. WE'RE GOING TO  VOTE OR APPROVAL FOR A  REFERENDUM, DON'T KNOW WHAT  THAT LOOKS LIKE. NOVEMBER WE  BRIEFLY TALKED ABOUT AUGUST. I  DON'T REMEMBER OF CLEAR  DIRECTION GIVEN IN AUGUST OR  NOVEMBER. WE KIND OF WERE  THROWING AROUND BOTH SO LET'S  JUST SAY WE GO IN NOVEMBER, WE  COULD GO OUT TO BID IF IT GOT  APPROVED AND POTENTIALLY START  WITHIN, YOU KNOW 3 TO 6  MONTHS. SWITCHES EARLY 2025.  BUT NOW IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE  GOING TO TAKE.  >> A YEAR MAYBE 2.  >> I DON'T KNOW.  >> MEANWHILE IT'S NOT HELPING  THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT'S  BUSTING AT THE SEAMS WHICH  THEN HAS COLLATERAL EFFECT. ON  CITY HALL. BECAUSE THEY'RE  BUSTING AT THE SEAMS AND THE  PLAN WAS FOR THEM TO MOVE CITY  HALL OVER TO THE STATION ONES  DON'T SO THERE'S A COLLATERAL.  COMPONENT TO THIS THAT I  HAVEN'T HEARD MUCH TALKED  ABOUT. SO. HOW YOU LOVE TO  HEAR FROM MY FELLOW  COMMISSIONERS.  >> I.  >> I UNDERSTAND THAT.  >> THE NEW REZONING. IS GOING  TO CHANGE THE MAKEUP OF OUR  CITY AND POSSIBLY INCREASE THE  FINANCIAL PART. I ASK THAT A  YEAR AGO WANTING TO KNOW WHAT  IS IT ACTUALLY GOING TO DO HOW  IS IT GOING TO ACTUALLY HELP  THE CITY. A YEAR AGO AND THAT  WOULD HAVE BEEN REALLY HELPFUL  INFORMATION TO HAVE A YEAR  AGO. BUT IT DIDN'T HAPPEN AND  THAT'S OKAY. BUT I WOULD I  WOULD GLADLY RESCINDED. SOME I  THINK IT'S MORE OF A PHANTOM  DIRECTION REFERENDUM IN  AUGUST. AND JUST HAVE IT GO TO  NOVEMBER. BUT YOU KNOW WE WE  HAVE A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS AS  TO WHAT THAT IS ACTUALLY GOING  TO LOOK LIKE. IT'S JUST A  CHARTER AMENDMENT. MAYBE WE  CAN DO BOTH.  >> WE KNOW THERE'S NO  GUARANTEE THE CHARTER  AMENDMENTS GOING TO AND THEN  WE'RE BACK TO SQUARE ONE  AGAIN. WE'RE WASTING TIME.  TIME IS MONEY MONEY IS TIME.  JUST IS GOING TO BE AS  PERPETUAL PROBLEM. I REALLY I  AM I'M PROBABLY IN THE  MINORITY AFTER HEARING A  COUPLE OF THE COMMISSIONERS  AND THE CITY MANAGER'S NEW  APPROACH. I THINK WE NEED TO  JUST. THE BULLET HOLE PUNCH  INTEND AND MOVE FORWARD WITH  THIS POLICE STATION WHATEVER  THAT IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE.  AND I DON'T DISAGREE WE HAVE  TO HAVE A POLICE STATION  THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN AFFORD  SO MAYBE WE HAVE TO TWEAK  WHATEVER THAT ONE 22 PLANETS.  BUT AT THE SAME TIME AFTER  HEARING SURE HOFFMAN'S PUBLIC  COMMENT. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH  TWEAKING WE CAN DO WITH A  REALLY WANTING TO PLAN FOR THE  GROWTH WHICH IS WHAT OUR SO  ONCE HIGHLY RECOMMEND IT. SO.  I YIELD. OKAY CITY MANAGER.  >> THANK YOU GOING EUROPE.  WHEN WE TO SOME OF THE  COMMISSIONERS REASON WHY WE  CHANGED OUR MIND IS BECAUSE OF  FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVED FROM  THE COMMUNITY NOT TAKE ORDERS  AS THEY WERE TRYING TO ASSIST  US IN GETTING WHAT WE WANT IT.  >> WE HEARD AND WE FIGURED  THAT WE NEEDED TO. MAKE SURE  THAT WE. REACTED TO WHAT THEY  SAID AND NOT DISMISS WHAT THEY  THE CHARTER OF ORIGINAL LEE  WAS DIRECTED BY BOARD CAME  BACK TO YOU IN DECEMBER 23, IT  WAS A CHARTER AMENDMENT. WE  THEN EVOLVED INTO A LEASE  AMENDMENT SO THAT WE COULD  ACTUALLY KILL 2 BIRDS THAT ONE  STILL WE DO BELIEVE THAT  PUTTING MULTIPLE QUESTIONS ON  A REFERENDUM IN NOVEMBER WOULD  NOT WOULD LEAD TO IT BEING  WERE UNSUCCESSFUL. WE'RE NOT  PUTTING IT ON THE SHELF NOW  WHICH IS WHAT I SAID WE DO NOT  WANT TO DO IF YOU'RE NOT OKAY  ANY MONEY TOWARDS IT PERIOD IF  YOU DO NOT END YOU CANNOT  CONTINUE TO DESIGN WORK.  YOU'RE ESSENTIALLY PUTTING IT  ON THE SHOW. THE TRAILERS THAT  ARE EFFORTS IN THE PORTABLES  THAT WE TALK ABOUT FOR POLICE  ALREADY HAPPENING THAT WAS  ALREADY IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET.  IT IS NOT NEW IT IS NOT GOING  TO BE SOMETHING THAT COULD  HAVE BEEN USED TO WORTH A NEW  POLICE STATION IT'S NOT A  SUBSTITUTE FOR WHAT WE'RE  DOING. IF WE DO MOVE FORWARD  AS YOU SAY IT STARTED 3 TO 6  MONTHS WHERE WILL THE MONEY  COME FROM IF WE HAVEN'T  IDENTIFY WITH ANY LEVEL OF  COPPING IT. BUT 85 MILLION  DOLLARS AND THAT INCLUDES A  MILLAGE INCREASE TO THEM THAT  IT SEEMS LIKE THERE IS NO  SIGNIFICANT APPETITE TO DO.  AND ALSO SURTAX THIS AGENDA  50 MILLION DOLLARS WHICH IS  STILL SO TO BEING QUESTION AT  THE EXACT SAME TIME. SO WE'RE  NOT GOING BACK TO SQUARE ONE  IF THIS DOES NOT GET PALES IN  NOVEMBER. IF FAILS IN NOVEMBER  AS BOND COUNCIL HAS REFERENCED  YOU COULD DO CO PEAS THAT DOES  NOT HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE  PUBLIC TO GET WHAT YOU NEED IT  WOULD ALLOW YOU TO GET WHAT  YOU NEED AND I BELIEVE YOU CAN  PUT MILITARY ON TOP OF IT TO  PAY FOR EVEN IF YOU WANTED TO.  WE'RE NOT GOING BACK SQUARE  ONE OUR GOAL IS TO KEEP THE  MOMENTUM GOING. I BELIEVE THAT  THIS COMMISSION IN OUR  EXCLUDING THE POLICE  DEPARTMENT HAS SHOWN A LOT OF  SUPPORT FOR IN ORDER TO MAKE  SURE THEY GET WHAT THEY NEED  BUT WE'RE TRYING TO BALANCE  THE NEED WITH THE VOICE OF OUR  STAKEHOLDERS AS WELL AS THE  SUPPORT FROM THE COMMUNITY TO  IT. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.  >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU FOR  CLARIFYING THAT AND I FOUND  THAT  >> IT THIS IS FOR THE PUBLIC  TO THIS LIST THAT WE ALL WHICH  POINT A LIST OTHER  MUNICIPALITIES WHAT THEY. YEAH  USING BONDS ARE.  >> FIRST ONE YOU MIGHT BEEN  REALLY I DON'T KNOW WE HAD  WITH THE BOARD TO IN CHARLOTTE  COUNTY ON COUNT THAT WE COULD  GO SOUTH AS WELL AS NORTH BUT  WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF  THIS INCLUDED TO THAT RIGHT  BUT I JUST FOUND THAT REALLY  INTERESTING THAT IT SHOWS HOW  ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORING  MUNICIPALITY PUTTING UP IN THE  COUNTY YOU BOMBS DO THESE.  PROJECTS AND CITY OF SARASOTA.  30 ALMOST 34 MILLION DOLLARS  FOR POLICE AND THAT WAS THE  MILL IF I'M READING THIS  CORRECTLY AGAIN THIS OUT OF MY  COMFORT ZONE TALKING ABOUT  THAT'S THERE. TAXES SO MISS  PALIN HE'S HAVE BEEN DOING  THINGS IN ORDER TO KEEP UP  WITH.  >> WHAT HE AND THEY'RE IN  CITIES AND TOWNS I THOUGHT WAS  ALSO HELPFUL TOO.  >> SAY WHAT THINGS COST THE  MORGAN CENTER ROOF 2 MILLION  DOLLARS WHO WOULD HAVE I THINK  OUR OUR AVERAGE PRESIDENT  WOULD NEVER THINK IT COST  2 MILLION DOLLARS BUT THAT  SAYS WHAT WHERE MONEY HAS TO  GO WHEN PEOPLE WANT TO OR WHAT  WE DO WITH ALL THE MONEY.  THAT'S ONE ONE OF THE THINGS  PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE WHAT  THINGS COST AND WHEN YOU'RE  DEALING WITH THE PUBLIC  SECTOR. IT'S NOT JUST LIKE  YOU'RE GOING TO DO THIS  YOURSELF TYPE THING AND MAKE  IT WORK. I DO APPRECIATE  HAVING ALL STUDIES THE  ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STUDY  AGAIN. YES, THE IMPACT FEES WE  TALKED ABOUT THAT BUT IMPACT  FEES WE I'M ALI. SO THE METAL  LEVEL, BUT IT'S BASED ON A  STUDY FROM 2011. I THINK I  HAVE THAT CORRECT SO THEY  REALLY OUTDATED I APPRECIATE  HEARING THAT WITH THE WARM  MINERAL SPRINGS THAT'S BEEN A  VERY CONTENTIOUS ISSUE BUT IF  WE DID HAVE THE BOMBING US  ALREADY. R THIS CORRECTLY WE  COULD HAVE BONDED THAT OUT TO  FIX WHAT IT NEEDED AND USE THE  REVENUE THAT PRODUCES TO TO  PAY IT BACK. SO TO ME IT'S A  NO-BRAINER THAT WE NEED TO  HAVE THAT THIS IN OUR CITY  CHARTER SO THAT WE CAN  ACTUALLY PROVIDE FOR OUR  RESIDENTS THE WAY THEY SHOULD  PROVIDED FOR. BE ON THE AT  LEAST THE SAME PLAYING FIELD  EVERY AS EVERYBODY ELSE OUT  THERE THAT WE OR COMPARE TO.  BUT I HAVE TO TELL YOU THERE'S  NO COMPARISON. I'M SORRY THIS  IS NORTH PORT WHERE IT. YOU  KNOW WITH FAST-GROWING IN THE  COUNTRY OR BEEN UP TO BUT I'M  NOT LIST AND THERE'S A REASON  FOR THAT. PEOPLE ARE COMING  HERE AND SOMEBODY CAME UP HERE  AND TALK ABOUT HE DOESN'T WANT  TO SEE THIS BECOME A  PHILADELPHIA. AGAIN YOU HAVE  TO YOU HAVE TO SOMETIMES YOU  KNOW TAKE THE DIFFICULT STEPS  AND MAKE THE DIFFICULT  DECISIONS TO TO MOVE FORWARD  NOW. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY  ABOUT THAT ON AND OFF MY  SOAPBOX NOW VICE MAYOR. THAT  WAS BUT YOU ALWAYS THAT.  COMMISSIONER LIKE THAT EUROPE.  >> YEAH, THANK YOU MADAM  MAYOR, I JUST I DO WANT TO GO  BACK TO ONE OF THE THINGS YOU  SAID WE WE DIDN'T RESET OUR  IMPACT FEES, A COUPLE OF YEARS  AGO 100% OF BEEN UPDATED  NUMBER RIGHT THE ISSUE WAS WE  JUST STARTED COLLECTING AT  THAT LEVEL IN THE PAST COUPLE  YEARS SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE'VE  HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO A LOT OF  MONEY THERE YET BUT.  >> BUT AS I THINK ABOUT WHERE  WE'RE HERE'S THE FACTS AS I  SEE IF I MISUNDERSTOOD  SOMETHING PLEASE CORRECT ME.  WE ALL AGREE WE NEED NEW  POLICE HEADQUARTERS THAT IS  NOT A QUESTION. BUT THE FACT  IS WE CAN TO IDENTIFY SOURCES  OF FUNDS FOR EVEN THE  100 MILLION DOLLAR.  >> MODEL.  >> SO THAT'S AN ISSUE WE NEED  TO FIGURE IT OUT. COMPLETING  THE DESIGN FOR THE  HEADQUARTERS AT WHATEVER MODEL  LEVEL. WE DO IT I UNDERSTAND  WILL TAKE ABOUT 9 MONTHS TO  COMPLETE. IT SOUNDS THOUGH THE  2 STUDIES WE REALLY NEED THAT  FINANCIAL FEASIBILITY AND THE  ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STUDY  SOUNDS LIKE WE COULD GET THAT.  WITHIN THE 9 MONTHS. I THINK  THINK WE WOULD ALL AGREE THAT  TOTALLY INDEPENDENT OF THE  POLICE HEADQUARTERS  CONVERSATION, THE CITY NEEDS  TO BE ABLE TO BORROW MONEY SO  WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A  REFERENDUM TO ACCOMPLISH THAT.  AND YOU KNOW I THINK WE COULD  GET THAT ON THE BALLOT EITHER  IN AUGUST NOVEMBER. AND WE CAN  HAVE THAT PEACE WILL WILL KNOW  WHAT THE STORY IS AT THAT  POINT. SO AT THE END OF THE  CALENDAR YEAR WITH MY FINGERS  CROSSED. I THINK WE'LL BE IN A  MUCH BETTER POSITION TO  UNDERSTAND OUR REVENUE  SITUATION, WE'LL KNOW WHETHER  OR NOT THE COMMUNITY WILL  SUPPORT THAT CHARTER CHANGE.  SO WE CAN BORROW MONEY. WELL  NOW WHAT THE DESIGN LOOKS LIKE  AND AND HOPEFULLY THEY'LL BE  SOME MODULAR AND STATION  THAT'S A WORD OF THAT DESIGN  START HERE AT THAT AD THAT  JUST IN CASE. SO I I DON'T SEE  THAT WOULD LAST INNING THAT  WAS REALLY LOST AND TIGHT. I  THINK WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD  ON. REFERENDUM LANGUAGE. I  THINK WE NEED TO GET SOME SOT  AND INSTRUCTION TO WHAT LEVEL  OF DESIGN ARE WE DOING MAKES  NO POINT TO DO A DESIGNED FOR  SOMETHING WE CANNOT AFFORD. SO  WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE  DO THAT DESIGN SO THAT. OUR  POLICE FORCE. YEAH THAT'S WHAT  THEY NEED. WHEN WELL YOU  NEEDED IT 5 YEARS AGO YEARS  AGO, SO LET ME SAY AND SOON AS  POSSIBLE. SO LET'S SORT OF  DECIDE ON THAT AND GET SOME  DATES IN PLACE FOR THOSE  THINGS AND AND I THINK THAT'S  A PRETTY GOOD ACCURATE. PATH  FORWARD AND SUMS AS WE CAN BE  DONE WITH ALMOST ALL OF THIS  THIS CALENDAR OR EARLY NEXT.  OK MY TO RIGHT THANK YOU.  MERGED TO DO HAVE SOMETHING.  >> WANT I THINK I MISSED YOU  FIRST ROUND AT THAT SITE THAT  THAT'S FINE.  >> WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS  PROCESS AND WE'VE GOING  THROUGH THIS PROCESS FOR 5  YEARS I REMEMBER WHEN I FIRST  GOT ELECTED DEPUTY CHIEF TOOK  ME TO THE PD AND GAVE ME A  TOUR AND IT REALLY WAS  UNBELIEVABLE BACK TO THEM AND  I KNOW OVER THE 5, 5, AND A  HALF YEARS IT'S GOTTEN WORSE  LOOK AT ALL THE OFFICERS WE'VE  HIRED YOU KNOW AND TRYING TO  PUT STUFF IN A BAG THAT  ALREADY COMING OUT THE END. WE  DID DISCUSS AND WE DID APPROVE  GOING TO THE 100% DESIGN ON  THE ONE 22. DOLLAR AMOUNT. AND  AND I DO AGREE WITH THE PUBLIC  SPEAKER EARLIER SAYING NOT THE  NORMALCY IS TO HAVE A BUDGET  GO FOR DESIGN BUT IN THIS CASE  I ALSO AGREE WAS. PDC  STATEMENT. WELL, THIS IS  REALLY WHAT WE NEED IN THE  TIMES OF CHANGE SO HOW MUCH IS  IT GOING TO COST WHAT I WOULD  LIKE TO SEE IS GOING WITH THIS  REFERENDUM TO SEE IF THAT  PASSES OVER. YOU KNOW THROUGH  THE VOTERS AND THE CITIZEN  RATE THAT WILL LET US KNOW  WHAT'S GOING ON WE CAN HEAR  MARK SOME FUNDS THROUGHOUT  THIS NEXT BUDGET SEASON AND  NEXT YEAR'S. BUT MOST OF ALL  WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE IS IF WE  DO DECIDE TO GO WITH THAT 100%  122 MILLION. I WOULD LIKE TO  SEE DOLLAR AMOUNTS ATTACHED TO  EACH LITTLE AMENITIES THAT  ADDED TO IT OTHER THAN THE  SHELF SPACE SHUTTLE SPACE IS  VERY I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A  100% DESIGN WITH THE SHELF  SPACE BUT WE MAY NOT NEED THE  WIRING UP STATION THOR. THE  THE PATROL CARS WE MIGHT NOT  NEED THE FUELING STATION WHAT  DO THOSE COSTS AND CAN THOSE  BE ADDED ON THE FUTURE WE  START WITH THE SPACE AND THEN  ADD OUR NICE LITTLE TOYS AS WE  GO FORWARD THAT WOULD JUST  GIVE US SOMETHING TO DISCUSS  AND SAY HEY YOU KNOW GIVE US A  LITTLE WE LE WAY BECAUSE  THAT'S ALL INCLUDED IN THE ONE  22 OR ONE 21. 4 MILLION  HAVEN'T ALREADY CUT COMING  OFF. THEY TALKED ABOUT  7 MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF  SAVINGS. SO JUST IN THIS ONE  MEETING. WE'VE LEARNED THAT  WE'RE SAVING MONEY GOING  FORWARD. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO  SEE THOSE ANSWERS. I'M LIKE  MAYBE THE NEXT PRESENTATION  WHEN WE DO DISCUSS YOU KNOW 9  MONTHS FROM NOW. AND YES,  HOPEFULLY ALL THE OTHER  STUDIES ARE IN THAT SAME TIME  AND THEN WE COULD HAVE A GOOD.  KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT WE'RE GOING  TO WE WOULD KNOW OUR FINANCIAL  STABILITY WORK TO START  WORKING ON THAT OR AT LEAST  WOULD BE CLOSE TO THAT WE HAVE  A MORE KNOWLEDGEABLE BASED ON  WHAT WE WOULD KNOW WHAT WE  REALLY CAN'T AFFORD WHAT WE  CAN GO FORWARD WITH. AND WHAT  THE CITIZENRY SUPPORTS SO WE  WOULD GET ALL THE MAJOR ****  OUT OF THE WAY AND THEN GO  FORWARD YOU KNOW SMILE AND  SAYING WE'RE GOING TO GET WHAT  WE WANT AS BEST AS WE CAN AND  GO FROM THERE. SO I JUST  WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE,  YOU KNOW FOR JUST THOUGHT. ALL  RIGHT, THANK YOU. VICE MAYOR.  HERE, EVERYBODY'S INPUT. I  WOULD HAVE TO SAY I AGREE THAT  I MEAN I CAN APPRECIATE THIS  IS DIFFICULT FOR SOME PEOPLE  TO WRAP THEIR HEADS AROUND I  MEAN THIS IS A LOT IT'S A BIG  PROJECT. BUT WE GOT HERE TODAY  BECAUSE. WE REALIZE WE REALLY  DON'T HAVE THE MONEY. IN OUR  PRESIDENT. COMPLEXION OR  MAKEUP. FOR THE STATE. NOT  WITHOUT LITERALLY GUTTING  EVERYTHING IN OUR SURTAX AND  PROBABLY STILL RAISING.  PROPERTY TAXES AND SO ON EVERY  AVAILABLE ASSET WE'VE GOT. SO.  IT REQUIRED US TO KIND OF TAKE  A AND TAKE A LOOK AT THIS  THING AND AND THAT'S WHAT  SMART. GROUPS AND  ORGANIZATIONS TO YOU PLOWING  AHEAD AND GO RIGHT OFF THE  CLIFF BECAUSE DOING SO WOULD  LEAVE US IN A POSITION NOT  HAVING THE ABILITY TO PAY FOR  THIS OR IF WE HAD TO COME UP  WITH THAT MONEY SO  COMPROMISING THE PRIORITIES  AND THE OTHER PILLARS IN THIS  CITY THAT. WE WOULD MAKE A  HUGE MESS OF THINGS IN MY  OPINION. THIS THIS IS NOT I  MEAN. WE'VE RECOGNIZED.  FINANCIAL CAPABILITY HERE.  FLEXIBILITY CREATIVITY AND HOW  WE FINANCE OUR CAPITAL  PROJECTS. THIS IS NOT THE ONLY  WANT BE THE MOST IMPORTANT  ONE. BUT THERE ARE SOME  AWFULLY **** IMPORTANT ONES  OUT THERE AND UTILITIES  INROADS IN INFRASTRUCTURE AND  OUR CITIZENS HAVE SAID THAT  LOUD AND CLEAR. THEY WILL  SUPPORT THE POLICE. ALL  SUPPORT GIVING THE POLICE WHAT  THEY NEED TO CONTINUE TO  PROTECT OUR CITY AND I WOULD  NOT. AGREE WITH MAKING THE  MISTAKES OF THE PAST AS  SHERIFF HOFFMAN SAID. TAX  COMMISSIONER CAROUSEL SAID. WE  CHOOSE WILL THIS PROJECT. WE  ARE DOOMED TO REPEAT MISTAKES  OF  THE PAST. WE CAN'T DO THAT.  BUT WE DO NOT TODAY AFTER  RESOURCE WE NEED TO DO THIS SO  WE HAVE TO TAKE FIRST STEPS  FIRST CITY MANAGER SET.  CITIZENS HAVE TO STEP UP  RECOGNIZE WE NEED TO TOOLS. WE  HAVE TO BE ABLE TO GET  CREATIVE SO WE CAN AMORTIZE  THE COST THIS PROJECT AND  OTHERS OVER THE NEXT 30 YEARS  SO THAT FUTURE GENERATIONS OF  OUR CITIZENS AND OUR  BUSINESSES HELP PAY FOR THIS  PLENTY THING AND ONLY OTHER  PROJECTS WE HAVE IT'S. PLAIN  AS THE NOSE ON YOUR FACE. YES,  IT'S A LOT TO GRASS YES. IT'S  A LOT TO UNDERSTAND BUT YOU  KNOW WE SPENT 3 6, 7, WEEKS ON  THIS PROJECT. IT SEEMS LIKE  IT'S BEEN 6 MONTHS WE'VE BEEN  TALKING ABOUT THE POLICE  HEADQUARTERS. THIS IS A SHORT  WINDOW OF TIME AS CITY MANAGER  POINTED OUT TO MAY IN THE NOT  TOO DISTANT PAST. AND IT'S  TIME TO LIKE TAKE A BREATH  STEP BACK LOOK AT HOW THIS IS  ALL AFFECTING EVERYTHING  THAT'S GOING ON MY CITY. WE  HAVE 7 PILLARS.  >> ALL OF WHICH ARE EQUAL ALL  OF WHICH WE AGREED ARE WHICH  HAVE PRIORITIES AND BY GOD  WHILE WE'VE GOT TO DO.  >> RIGHT BY THE POLICE. WE  ALSO NEED TO DO RIGHT BY EVERY  OTHER DEPARTMENT IN THIS CITY  EVERY OTHER PILLAR AND TO DO  WHAT WE NEED TOOLS WE NEED  RESOURCES THIS IS NOT SHOVE IT  ON THE SHELF THIS IS NOT KICK  THE CAN THIS IS A STRATEGIC  INTELLIGENT APPROACH HOW YOU  SOLVE PROBLEMS. IF YOU'RE A  GROWN-UP CITY AND IT'S TIME WE  BEHAVE THAT WAY AND WE TAKE  CONFIDENCE AND AND AND BELIEVE  OUR LEADERSHIP OUR OUR SUBJECT  MATTER PROFESSIONALS. AND WE  FOLLOW OUR LEADERSHIP TO MOVE  FORWARD THING A LOT TO TAKE  IN.  ♪ BUT THERE'S IT'S NOT LIKE THIS  THE FIRST TIME THESE ISSUES  ARE REARED THEIR HEAD ACROSS  THIS NATION. WE ARE NOT THAT  UNIQUE AND WE HAVE A  PARTICULAR UNIQUE ISSUE WITH  OUR BUT THE TRUTH IS PROBLEM  SOLVING LIKE THIS GROWTH MODE  IS CHALLENGING AND THEY'RE  YOUR ROAD MAPS AND THERE PLANS  IN THERE, ALTHOUGH SMARTER  THAN WHO CAN HELP ADVISE US  AND GUIDE US DIRECT THAT'S  WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING SO  AGAIN I SAY. THIS IS THE RIGHT  APPROACH WE SHOULD MOVE  FORWARD WE'VE GOT TO GET  ELEPHANT ROOM DEALT WITH AND  THE CITIZEN TERRY POPE WHERE  THEY'RE GOING TO VOTE AGAINST  IT AND LET'S FACE IF THEY VOTE  AGAINST EITHER SERVICES WILL  BE COMPROMISED OR TO MAINTAIN  THAT LEVEL DOT SAYS HORRIBLE  THING TO SAY AT A LAKE TO PAY  WHAT FOR FIRE STARTS 3 TIMES  WHAT WE PAY THAT'S JUST THAT'S  THE ALTERNATIVE. AND YOU KNOW  MAYBE NOBODY WANTS TO SAY IT  ALL SAY IT, THAT'S THE REAL  IT'S NOT A THREAT BUT A  REALITY EVERYBODY NEEDS TO  HEAR IT. IT'S THAT SIMPLE YOU  CAN DOT CREATE SOMETHING OUT  OF NOTHING. YOU NEED MONEY. SO  EITHER GIVE US THE TOOLS TO BE  CREATIVE. AND LEVERAGE IT SO  THAT NOT JUST TODAY. BUT THE  FUTURE PEOPLE WHO MOVE HERE  BECAUSE A GREAT CITY TO LIVE  AND THE BUSINESSES THAT FOLLOW  THEM AND HELP PAY FOR ALL THE  STING. INSTEAD BEING ON THE  BACKS OF WHICH IS WHAT'S GOING  TO HAPPEN IF WE DON'T GET THIS  PUSH THROUGH AND SO. STALE TO  DIE ON. MY OPINION. THANK YOU.  ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. VICE  MAYOR COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL.  >> SO DIFFICULT STEPS  DIFFICULT DECISIONS  ABSOLUTELY. SO I HAVE COUPLE  QUESTIONS.  >> THE PLANNED FOR 2050. WAS  FOR 70, I'M SORRY 85 MILLION  TO CONSTRUCT. AND 15 MILLION  SO IT'S A 100 TOTAL OF A  100 MILLION. WHAT IS THAT  PRICE TAG WITH ENSURE WITH THE  INTEREST AND FEES FOR BONDING.  >> YOU LIKELY TO ADDRESS JUST  IN GENERAL WHAT GET JUST HOST  WOULD BE GIVE GROUND ESTIMATE  BEST GUESS NARROW YOU'RE THE  HOW MUCH IS IT GOING TO BE  WE'VE SEEN INTEREST. PRINCIPAL  AND FEES. YES WE IF WE LOOK AT  30 YEAR FINANCING. YOU KNOW  INTEREST IT'S A 100 MILLION  DOLLAR BORROWING. WOULD BE  LESS 100 PUT IT IS YOU KNOW  AND WHAT I WAS JUST LIKE LIKE  ANY THAT WITH PRINCIPLE OF  INTEREST TO WHERE IT'S  ESSENTIALLY JUST UNDER. DOUBLE  WHAT THE CAUSE IS TODAY SO THE  PRESENT VALUE TODAY, IT'S 100  THE PAID OVER THE LIFE DEAL  WITH PUBLIC CLOSE TO ONE 90.  APPROXIMATION. AND YOUR BEST  CASE SCENARIO.  >> I WOULD ASSUME THE SAME  KIND OF FORMULA WOULD IT WOULD  TAKE EFFECT IF WE HAVE A  122 MILLION DOLLARS SCENARIO  YOU'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT. 210  TOTAL WITHIN TRISTAN.  >> ROUGHLY PROBABLY IT TOO. I  HAD TO THAT'S MORE THAN  DOUBLE. WELL FOR ONE 22. IT'S  ALMOST ALL. YEAH, I MEAN  THAT'S SOME I'M LOOKING AT IT.  YOU KNOW VERY UP FOR 30 YEARS  ON SOME OF THE 30 SO.  >> YOU SAID 30 YEARS WHAT  WOULD YOU ESTIMATE THAT IN  INTEREST RATE LIKE 4.2 5 I  THINK IT'S SOMETHING BUT YOU  YEAH, I THINK WE BUILD A  CUSHION OF THAT SO I I THINK  USING A RATE OF 5% IS PROBABLY  BY SEASONABLE.  >> SO IF WE GO OUT TO A VOTER  REFERENDUM. IS THAT VOTER  REFERENDUM GOING TO BE FOR THE  FULL AMOUNT. THERE IS A VOTER  REFERENDUM COULD HAVE BEFORE.  JUST THE 29 MILLION THAT WE  HAVE TALKED ABOUT PREVIOUSLY.  BECAUSE IF WE'RE JUST GOING TO  GO TO THE 29 MILLION USING  SARASOTA COUNTY. WE'RE STILL  WAY SHORT. BILL ACTION SO WHAT  EXACTLY IS THE PLAN FOR  CHARTER REFERENDUM. FOR THE  VOTERS. WHAT IS THE ASK  BECAUSE I'VE HEARD A COUPLE  DIFFERENT THINGS 29 MILLION. A  FULL VOTE FOR THE POLICE HAD  ORDERS AND ALSO OF PERMISSIVE  REFINED COMMISSIONER IF I IF I  COULD JUST MAKE SURE THAT  WE'RE CLEAR.  >> THERE ARE 2 DIFFERENT  POTENTIAL REFERENDUM.  QUESTIONS ONE RELATED TO  SPECIFIC BOND. AND ONE RELATED  TO A CHARTER AMENDMENT.  >> OKAY SO CHARTER AMENDMENT.  >> 4.  >> RELATED TO THE CITY'S  BONDING AUTHORITY. BUT THE  COMMISSION AND POTENTIALLY DO  THEM. WHICH COULD BE WHAT  PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED ABOUT  SOMETHING I CAN TO SARASOTA  COUNTY. OR IT COULD BE A  PERMISSIVE REFERENDUM.  WHATEVER THE WILL OF THE BOARD  AND SO WHAT'S THE OTHER ONE  THAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT WE  WOULD A SEPARATE QUESTION THAT  YOU ALL IT GIVE US DIRECTION  FEBRUARY 26 WORKSHOP.  >> WAS TO EXPLORE A REFERENDUM  FOR A BOND. ISSUANCE OF THE  BONDS ALREADY TO ISSUE A  SPECIFIC BONDS FOR THE POLICE  DEPARTMENT HEADQUARTERS. SORRY  THOUGHT IT WAS THE CHARTER  CHANGE. 2 DIFFERENT THINGS  THAT WE NOT BASED ON MISSION  WHAT IS A CHARTER CHANGE  THAT'S JUST GENERAL ABOUT THE  BOMBING OF 40 WRITING FOR THE  CITY CITY COMMISSION. THE  OTHER IS THIS IS A REFERENDUM  QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT  WAS AUTHORIZED TO TAKE OUT.  IT'S A OR THE POLICE  DEPARTMENT HEADQUARTERS. SO  AND THAT THE CHARTER  REFERENDUM LANGUAGE CAN ONLY  GO INTO GENERAL ELECTIONS  ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED WITH  RESPECT TO THE BOND LANGUAGE  FAR AS ISSUES TO FOR POLICE  DEPARTMENT HEADQUARTERS.  DIRECTION, THE WORKSHOP. SO  IT'S NOT BINDING BUT YOU DID  ALL STAFF TO EXPLORE DOING  THAT IN AUGUST AND SUE THE  CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS  WORKING ON THAT AND WE HAVE TO  BRING THAT TO YOU FOR FIRST  READING. YOU KNOW AT THE VERY  NEXT MEETING THAT'S WHAT YOU  WANT TO CONTINUE.  >> WELL I DON'T SEE HOW THAT'S  GOING TO BE FEASIBLE IN AUGUST  NOT TO MENTION AFTER SPEAKING  WITH OTHER. OTHER ENTITIES  ABOUT AUGUST REFERENDUMS FOR  SINCE NOVEMBER. REFUNDS THEY  POINTED OUT SOMETHING THAT I  WASN'T AWARE OF THAT THE  OBVIOUS REFERENDUM DOES NOT  HAVE.  >> POLITICAL PARTIES VOTING SO  A LOT OF PEOPLE TO STAY HOME  AND THAT'S NOT EQUITABLE TO  ALL OF OUR VOTERS IN PORT, I'M  PROBABLY WOULD HAVE TO STICK  WITH A NOVEMBER ONE TO  EQUITABLE TO EVERYBODY WHICH  THEN MISSED 2 REFERENDUMS SO.  CHARTER REFERENDUM. IS THE  SARASOTA COUNTY POTENTIAL OR  THE POTENTIAL THAT'S A  CONVERSATION. AND IF WE DO THE  SARASOTA COUNTY ONE THAT'S  ONLY 29 MILLION AND THEN IF WE  DO A BOND FOR THE HEADQUARTERS  THAT ON WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT  HOW WE'RE GOING TO PAY BACK.  >> AT EITHER.  >> 100 PLUS INTEREST OR THE  ONE 22 PLUS INTEREST. THIS IS  WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR IS TO MAKE  THESE HARD DECISIONS BUT WHEN  I HEARD THE CITY MANAGER'S  PRESENTATION IT SOUNDED LIKE  WE WOULD NOT. THE MOVING  FORWARD WITH THE BOND FOR  THE NORTH PORT HEADQUARTERS  UNTIL AFTER ALL THOSE OTHER  BULLETED POINTS THAT HE HAD  MENTIONED ARE SATISFIED. SO I  I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. IS  THAT INTENT OF YOUR MEMOS TO.  POSTPONED THE NORTH PORT PD  BOND QUESTION UNTIL AFTER ALL  THOSE BULLETED POINTS ARE  RESOLVED.  >> BUT RECKON MEANING DOES NOT  INCLUDE A POLICE BOND QUESTION  ON THIS NOVEMBER'S BALLOT. IT  INCLUDES ONLY BE AMENDING OF  THE CHARTER TO ALLOW WAS  BONDING AUTHORITY IF WHEN YOU  DECIDE TO PUT YOUR POLICE  DEPARTMENT ON THE BALLOT. IT'S  28 MILLION HAS TO GO UP OVER  APPROVAL IS 88 MILLION HAS TO  GO OFF A VOTER APPROVAL. SO  THE 20 MILLION DOLLARS IS NOT  A NUMBER THAT YOU ARE STUCK  WITH IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO  PUT ON A VOTER BALLOT. WHAT  WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS ALLOW  FOR TIME TO ALLOW SOME OF THE  OTHER REVENUE SOURCES THAT  WE'VE IDENTIFIED THAT ARE NOT  AS CLEAR AS A BOND REFERENDUM.  2 PROVIDE WANT CLARITY BY  PUSHING THEM OUT A LITTLE BIT  FURTHER. AND WE ALSO THINK IT  WILL BE HELPFUL TO KNOW HOW  MUCH OF THIS GROWTH THAT TO  EXPERIENCING WHAT DOES THAT  TRANSLATE INTO FUTURE DOLLARS.  IT ALSO BE HELPFUL TO KNOW THE  1.8 BILLION DOLLARS THAT YOU  ALSO NEED TO FOR OVER THE NEXT  1015 20 YEARS. HOW WILL YOU BE  ABLE DO THAT TO DO THAT IN A  SYSTEMATIC IS SCHEDULED  STRUCTURED WAY. THOSE ITEMS  PROVIDE THIS BOARD OR A FUTURE  BOARD. THE LEVEL OF CULTURE IN  ORDER TO PROVIDE POLICE WHAT  THEY NEED CONTINUING THE  PROJECT FORWARD. WHILE DOING  DESIGN WORK AS WE MENTIONED  2.30 THIS IT TOO. 100.  >> CITY ATTORNEY SAID THAT  ORDER TO GO OUT TO A BOND FOR  PD HEADQUARTERS WE WOULD HAVE  TO DO IT AT GENERAL ELECTION  THAT IS ON THEM US IT IT'S AND  THAT NEEDS TO GET THE GENERAL.  CHARTER AMENDMENT NEEDS. IT'S  A WONDER CHARTER AMENDMENT IF  YOU WANT TO GO FORWARD NEEDS  TO BE IN NOVEMBER, MODEST. AND  WHAT ABOUT THE AAND REFERENDUM  FOR PD HEADQUARTERS. THERE'S  NOT A LEGAL PROHIBITION EITHER  WAY YOU CAN PUT ELECTION OKAY.  JUST JUST KNOW THAT WE WOULD  HAVE DO THAT IMMEDIATELY  BECAUSE THE LANGUAGE IS DUE TO  THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS BY  THE END MAY 27.  >> IF WE WERE TO GO TO BOND  FOR PD. AND THE CITY MANAGERS  RECOMMEND YOU NOT DOING IT.  THIS NOVEMBER. WE'RE LOOKING  AT.  >> 26.  >> BEFORE WE GO TO A  REFERENDUM FOR PD.  >> OR SPECIAL ELECTION WHICH  IS GOING COST THE A BOATLOAD  OF MONEY THAT THE CITIZENS ARE  GOING SAY WHY ARE YOU DOING  THAT.  >> THAT CORRECT. I DON'T. WE  HAVE TO MAKE THIS POLITICAL.  AND AND WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT  FUNDING.  >> AND CITY MANAGER KIND OF  CHALLENGE WITHOUT CHALLENGING  HOW WE GOT TO PAY FOR. SO YOU  KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT  SHUFFLING THE SURTAX WE'VE  TALKED ABOUT A MILLAGE RATE  INCREASE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A  FEW DIFFERENT OTHER OPTIONS.  BUT THERE'S ONE THING THAT'S  KIND OF LINGERING. AND I KEEP  GOING BACK TO WHEN THIS WHOLE  PROJECT STARTED IT WAS NORTH  PORT PD AND IOS. YOU SEE WAS  TAKEN OUT SOMEHOW SOME WAY NOT  WITH COMMISSION DIRECTION OUT  OF THAT PROJECT. BUT OC IS  11 MILLION DOLLARS. TO BUILD A  STAND-ALONE BUILDING. FOR YOU  NOW I'M NOT EXPERT WITH IOS  BUT SEE USUALLY ONLY GETS  ACTIVATED WHEN THERE'S AN  EMERGENCY SO WE'RE BUILDING A  STAND-ALONE BUILDING FOR YOU  SEE THAT IS GOING TO BE  UTILIZED ONLY WHEN THERE'S AN  EMERGENCY SO COMMON SENSE  TELLS ME THE REST OF THE  BUILDING IS GOING TO BE  SITTING THERE. NOT NECESSARILY  VACANT BUT FOR ALL INTENTS AND  PURPOSES VACANT WAITING FOR  THE NEXT EMERGENCY TO COME  ABOUT. SO THERE'S A LOT  MILLION DOLLARS. THAT WE CAN  USE AND PUT IT BACK TOWARDS  THE NORTH PORT PD E E O C AND  HAS BUILT. THAT LOCATION. I  YOU KNOW. I DID THE THINKING I  DON'T KNOW IS IT POSSIBLE. I  DON'T KNOW. WE HAVE TO TALK TO  OUR EXPERT DESIGNER ENGINEER  FROM AN ASK THAT WE HAVE  30,000 SQUARE FEET OF SHELL  SPACE I AM POSITIVE THAT IF OC  GET ACTIVATED THAT SHOTS,  COMPETE VERY EASILY USED I  DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW BIG OF AN  EU SEE WE'RE BUILDING HOW MANY  STORIES HOW MANY SQUARE  FOOTAGE IS WHAT DOES THAT OC  LOOK LIKE. BUT AT THE SAME  TIME. IT'S NOT YOU JUST. LAST  TIME WE USED IT WAS IN  SEPTEMBER OCTOBER OF 2022.  >> SO.  >> THERE'S AN ALTERNATIVE TO  HELP US TRY AND GET SOME  FUNDING TO HELP GET THIS  POLICE STATION TAKING CARE OF.  AND YES WE ARE GOING COME DOWN  TO THE POINT WHERE WE'RE GOING  TO HAVE TO START MAKING  DECISIONS ON HOW TO FUND THE  REST OF IT. THE NEED IS NOT  GOING AWAY. THE NEED IS NOW  THE NEED WAS 3 YEARS AGO IN 5  YEARS AGO. OKAY ANNOUNCED,  MENTIONED COMMISSIONER  LANGDON.  >> YES MAYOR I'M READY WITH  SOME MOTIONS WHEN YOU ARE  SHORT. WELL WE HAVE PUBLIC  COMMENT.  >> I WAS GOING CAN.  COMMISSIONER READY FOR MO  YEAH, I'M OKAY WITH THAT THANK  YOU. PUBLIC COMMENT. WE  HAVEN'T OKAY THANK YOU.  >> OKAY MOTION NUMBER INSTRUCT  CITY MANAGER TO WORK WITH THE  STAFF. TO BRING BACK LANGUAGE.  FOR A CHARTER. CHANGE. TO  ALLOW THE CITY. BORROWING  AUTHORITY. TALKED ABOUT  DIFFERENT NUMBERS I DON'T WANT  TO PUT THAT IN THE MOTION. BUT  I DO WANT. SOME LANGUAGE TO  COME BACK. AND WHEN IN TIME  FOR THE NOVEMBER. NOW WHAT.  I'LL SECOND THAT.  >> ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION  ON THE TABLE BY COMMISSIONER  LANGDON AND CITY CLERK CAN YOU  READ THAT BACK.  >> TO DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER  WORK WITH STAFF TO BRING BACK  LANGUAGE FOR A CHARTER  AMENDMENT TO ALLOW THE CITY  BORROWING AUTHORITY IN TIME  FOR THE NOVEMBER ELECTION.  >> THAT WAS SECONDED BY VICE  MAYOR. SPEAK TARGET.  >> I WOULD SAY THAT IT  SHOULDN'T BE VERY DIFFICULT TO  DO SINCE WE'VE ALREADY SORT  OF.  >> HAD ONE RATTLING AROUND WE  SORT OF IT KICK BACK AND FORTH  AND BACK ON THE SHELF QUICKLY  >> WE AS A SENATOR DEPUTY DIFF  THE SENATE JOINT GOING HARRY  HAS THAT LANGUAGE PROVIDE IT  TO US AT NEXT THAT'S  >> WE WE DO WE HAVE NOT  FINALIZED THE DROUGHT. WE A  WORKING DRAFT. SO IT MAY NOT  BE READY FOR THE VERY NEXT  MEETING, HOWEVER, MAYOR I  WOULD SAY THAT I WOULD JUST  ASK THE COMMISSION TO PROVIDE  SOME CLARITY WE ACTUALLY HAVE  2 VERSIONS OF A DRAFT ONE WITH  THIS UNIQUE MISTER REFERENDUM  SCHEME AND ONE WOULD BE KIND  OF SOMETHING IT'S A SOMEWHAT  INSPIRED BY SARASOTA COUNTY.  THE DRAFT LANGUAGE THAT YOU  GUYS PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED SO  WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU  WANT FROM THAT.  >> THEY DON'T RELATE TO  BORROWING 40 CAN MAKE A  DIFFERENT MOTION ON THE  PERMISSION FROM THIS OF  REFERENDUM. WHAT ARE YOU  LOOKING HERE, I'M JUST LOOKING  FOR A LANGUAGE FOR A CHARTER  AMENDMENT.  >> 2.  >> ENABLE THIS CITY.  >> TO BORROW MONEY.  >> WHAT PRIME THAT'S WHAT MY  QUESTIONS WELL I I WANT THE  LANGUAGE TO COME BACK WITH  DISCUSSED A NUMBER OF THINGS I  DON'T WANT TO WIRED AND TO THE  MOTION. I WANT TO SEE WHAT  COMES BACK AND WE'LL DISCUSS  IT WHEN IT COMES BACK THEY'RE  LOOKING FOR BOTH VERSIONS ONE  WITH MISSIVE REFERENDUM. THE  ONE WE'RE NOT AT ALL YOU'RE  LOOKING FOR THE  STRAIGHTFORWARD FORWARD THANK  YOU. COMMISSIONER DOW.  >> IS THIS GOING TO BE FOR  FIRST READING OR IS THIS JUST  GOING TO BE FOR GENERAL  DISCUSSION. WHEN YOU SAY BRING  IT BACK WHAT WHAT YOU WANT  THEM TO BRING BACK FOR  SCREENING OR DO YOU WANT THEM  TO BRING BACK SOMETHING THAT  WE CAN KIND OF TWEAKING CHANGE  IN AND HAVE DISCUSSION ON.  >> BECAUSE THERE'S A HUGE HIT  WITH TO FIRST READING WITH  WITH BEAT UP A LOT OF FIRST  STREET AND SO YEAH LET'S BRING  IT BACK AS FIRST READING TO  BRING THINGS A LOT. DO YOU  WANT ME TO RESTATE THE MOTION  CITY CLERK ARE YOU ALL SET  FRUSTRATED, OKAY.  >> ALL RIGHT WE BACK TO THE  MOTION KNOW ARE VOTING ON.  PAT.  >> ALL RIGHT, IT'S GOING TO BE  A VOICE. VOTE. VICE MAYOR TO  ME, YES. MAYOR WHITE I'M A  YES. COMMISSIONER LANGDON I'M  A YES.  >> COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL WANTS  TO VOTE MAY FIRST READING.  >> YES, COMMISSIONER EMRICH  SHE'S A BABY TO CAN NOT. YEAH,  IT.  >> REALLY LIKE HOW THE CITY  REFERENCE BILL EMERGED.  >> YOU KNOW YES, OK, OK  ALRIGHT THAT MOTION DOES PAST  5 TO 0.  >> ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE ANOTHER  I HAVE ONE MORE AND I'LL LET  SOMEONE ELSE DO THE PREMISE OF  REFERENDUM. THAT'S NOT REALLY  MY JAM. MOTION NUMBER TO  INSTRUCT CITY MANAGER TO WORK  WITH STAFF.  >> I'M GOING INDIA MYSELF WITH  THE SPIRIT OF COMMISSIONER  MCDOWELL 7 STRUCK CITY MANAGER  TO WORK WITH STAFF TO COMPLETE  2 STUDIES. ECONOMIC  DEVELOPMENT STUDY. AND THE  FINANCIAL CONDITION ANALYSIS.  BY THE END OF THE CALENDAR  YEAR. HEY PUTTING BUT.  >> HAD SOMETHING ABOUT FELL  OVER. TIME. SECOND I FEEL A  SENSE OF OKAY WE HAVE ANOTHER  ON THE TABLE MADE BY  COMMISSIONER LANGDON AND CITY  CLERK INJURY THAT WE CAPTURE  THAT.  >> DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER TO  WORK WITH STAFF TO COMPLETE AN  ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FINANCIAL  CONDITION ANALYSIS BY THE END  OF THE CALENDAR YEAR.  >> THAT WAS SECONDED BY VICE  MAYOR RIGHT BACK AS THAT WHAT  WE ARE TODAY FOR MORE.  FINANCIAL AND LEGAL  CONSULTANTS. AND CITY MANAGER  WAS RECORD TOO. YOU KNOW  WHAT'S BEEN ALREADY OUT THERE  YOU HAVE A QUORUM SO REALLY I  THINK PLAY. AND THEN IS  REALISTIC EXPECTATION IN A  NORMAL WORLD IF WE'RE START  FROM SCRATCH. I WOULD SAY NO  THE END WE ARE WHERE WE ARE  AND THERE'S ALREADY QUITE  FRANKLY BEEN WORK I WOULD  IMAGINE ON THE PART OF OUR  FINANCIAL DEPARTMENT.  >> IT WITH RESPECT TO YOU KNOW  ANALYZING OUR NEEDS SAID AND  SOME OF THE IMPACTS PROJECTS  THAT ARE LITTLE BY LITTLE  FALLING. I DON'T THINK IT'S  UNREASONABLE TO THINK SO AND I  THINK THAT WE JUST NEED TO GET  IT DONE AND THAT RAIN SO WE  CAN EVERY FORWARD.  >> ALL RIGHT. YES, I THINK IT  WAS A REALLY GOOD MOTION.  THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT  FORWARD TALKED ABOUT IT'S  GREAT TO TAKE ACTION ON  THANKS.  >> YES, ALL RIGHT SO THERE'S  NOTHING ELSE SHOULDN'T YEAH.  >> SO WE'RE GOING TO DO THESE  2 STUDIES WHAT'S THE COST OF  THE STUDIES TO HAVE AN  ASSESSMENT.  >> WE DO  >> THIS IS GOING TO BE DONE IN  THE HOUSE ARE WE GOING TO HIGH  OF THE CONSULTANT OR IS IT A  COMBINATION OF 2.  >> IT WILL BE NEXT CONSOLE CAN  I VOTE. WE HAVE TO CLOSE OR  PROCUREMENT. MAYBE WITH A  PIGGYBACK OF BUT THAT IS  ALREADY IN DISTANCE.  >> OIN IS PROBABLY AN  EXTENSION.  >> RIGHT WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE  A. WITH AS WELL SO YOU HAVE TO  SEE IF THEY WILL QUALIFY.  >> IS IT REALISTIC TO HAVE IT  DONE AT THE NC NOW I'M  CHANNELING YOURS.  >> SO REALISTIC TO HAVE THIS  DONE 6 MONTHS 7 MONTHS WE  BELIEVE IT IS.  >> ALL RIGHT WE WILL DO A  VOICE VOTE. I  >> IS A YES.  >> MAYOR WHITE GENERAL.  LANGDON YES. COMMISSIONER  MCDOWELL IS UNKNOWN. AND  COMMISSIONER ELRICH.  >> YEAH I WAS CONCERNED WITH  THE TIMELINES COMING BACK I  JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WAS  THAT NO FAULT OF THE CITY  MANAGER. IF THE TIMELINE WAS  ON THE CONSULTANT'S NOT  PRODUCING BUT I'LL BE A YES  GOING FORWARD, BUT I HATE  PUTIN TIMELINES WHEN THERE ARE  UNCONTROLLABLE.  >> OKAY SO THAT PASSES 4 TO  COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL IS  SOMETHING THAT YOU HE'S HAD  >> I JUST SAY I DON'T SEE HOW  IT'S GOING TO HELP WITH THE  DECISION-MAKING FOR THE POLICE  HEADQUARTERS THAT'S WHAT WE'RE  HERE.  >> HAVE ONE DON'T TOLERANCE  AND MAKE A MOTION INSTRUCT  CITY MANAGER TO WORK WITH  STAFF TO PREPARE A  COMPREHENSIVE LONG-TERM  CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN FOR  PORT. THE PLAN WILL ENCOMPASS  ALL CITY SERVICES INCLUDING  GENERAL GOVERNMENT. FIRE  DISTRICT. ROAD AND DRAINAGE  DISTRICT SOLID WASTE DISTRICT  AND THE WATER AND SEWER  UTILITIES SERVICE SO IT'S.  SECOND FOR DISCUSSION.  >> ALL RIGHT  >> TO INSTRUCT CITY MANAGER TO  WORK WITH STAFF TO PREPARE A  COMPREHENSIVE. LONG TERM  CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. FOR  PORT. PLAN WILL ENCOMPASS ALL  CITY SERVICES. INCLUDING  GENERAL GOVERNMENT. FIRE  DISTRICT. ROAD AND DRAINAGE  DISTRESSED. SOLID WASTE  DISTRICT. AND WATER AND SEWER  UTILITY SERVICES.  >> ALL RIGHT SO THAT MOTION  WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER  LANGDON CITY CLERK DO WANT TO  READ THE FACTS SHOW A CAPTION  THAT TO DIRECT CITY MANAGER  WORK WITH STAFF TO PREPARE A  COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FROM NORTH  PORT TO ENCOMPASS ALL CITY  SERVICES, INCLUDING GENERAL  GOVERNMENT DISTRICT FOR AN  INTEGRATED DISTRICT WASTE  DISTRICT AND WATER AND SEWER  UTILITY SERVICES, ALL RIGHT  AND THAT WAS SECONDED BY  COMMISSIONER.  >> THE DOW DO WE HAVE ANYBODY  WANTS TO SPEAK TO  >> IS THIS THE SAME AS THE  CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT ARE  UNFUNDED FOR THE NEXT 15  YEARS. IS THAT BASICALLY WHAT.  THIS IS GOING TO.  >> EXPECT MISSED COMMISSIONER  THIS WOULD BE. NOT ONLY THE  CIP BUDGET THAT WE DO A LOT  AND ARE CURRENTLY IN THAT WE  TALK ABOUT THAT WE'RE AWARE OF  THIS WOULD BE ADDING THE 1.8  BILLION DONOVAN THERE HAND IT  TO BE AND NOW YOU HAVE A THAT  OUR TEAM CAME UP WITH. BUT WE  REALLY NEED OF SUCH THAT LIST  OUT SOME MORE AND MAKE SURE  THAT ALIGNS WITH WHAT THE  FINANCIAL CONDITION ANNOUNCE  SHOULD TELL THOSE IN AND  JUSTIN TOGETHER SHOULD AGAIN  THE COMMISSION IN THE  COMMUNITY. SOME LEVEL OF  CONFIDENCE THAT WE ARE MOVING  IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION FOR THE  DECISIONS THAT WE'RE MAKING  ESPECIALLY WITH THIS LARGE  SCALE OF THE POLICE  DEPARTMENT.  >> SEEING NO WHEN I DID MY  MATH ON IT CAME UP TO BE  BILLION.  >> SO THAT'S PART OF THE  REASON WHY ASKING THAT  QUESTION. IT'S MISSED IS THIS.  COMPREHENSIVE CIP. IS HE GOING  TO INCLUDE.  >> NEEDS ASSESSMENT FINANCIAL  PROJECTIONS IS THAT KIND OF  WHAT YOU WERE SAYING TO ANSWER  MY FIRST QUESTION IT'S BEEN.  WHO WOULD BE DOING THIS STUDY  ARE THIS ANALYSIS.  >> YOU DON'T KNOW AT THIS  TIME. COST IDEAS ON AND HOW IS  THIS DIFFERENT THAN OUR  CURRENT CIP PROJECT. IT WILL  BE MORE IN DEPTH IT WILL BE  TIGHT BACK TO YOUR REVENUE  PROJECTIONS AND GROWTH OF THE  CITY. FOR 15 YEARS. NEW  PROJECTIONS FOR 15 YEARS.  >> ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT  PORTION OF THE ASKED THAT WORD  IN THE EARLIER MOTION IS TO  LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW  WITH A GROWTH AND HOW WE CAN  CAPITALIZE REALIZING WITH THAT  GROUP IS GOING TO TAKE US.  IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A  SHORT-TERM LOOK IS GOING TO BE  A IT.  >> THIS BE DONE THEN IT. BY  THE END OF THE CALENDAR YEAR.  THAT'S WHAT WE AND I'M ASKING  HOW LONG THEN IS GOING TO  TAKE.  >> YOU THIS CURRENT TRY TO GET  IT DONE BY THE END OF THE  YEAR.  >> ANYTHING ELSE. ALL RIGHT SO  BOYS VOTE I AM A YES. I THAT  WAS. WE WANT TO THANK YOU.  >> VICE MAYOR BOATS, YES.  VOTE. YES.  >> ITS COMMISSIONER LANGDON  YES.  >> ONLY SAYING YES BECAUSE I  THINK IT WOULD BE A VALUABLE  TOOL FOR FUTURE COMMISSIONS  AND FUTURE BUDGETING. LET'S BE  ALL AND COMMISSIONER EMRICH.  >> COMMISSIONER EMERGES A YES,  OKAY.  >> SO THAT MOTION I 2, 0, LINE  TOGETHER ROW LIKE TO DO ONE  MORE GO AHEAD AND CUT INTO  ACTION.  >> I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE NOT  PURSUE PREMISE OF REFERENDUMS  AS AN OPTION. WHEN THE CITY OF  NORTH SIDE AT THIS TIME. IT  WAS FAST. WE HAVE A.  >> MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER  LANGDON TO NOT PURSUE FOR SO  PERMISSIVE REP AROUND  REFERENDUMS.  >> AT THIS TIME WHICH IS THAT  THE CITY THE CITY AT THIS  TIME. AND THAT WAS SECONDED BY  COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL. YES  COMMISSIONER AS THE SECOND ARE  THE REASON WHY I WAS SO EAGER  TO SAY YES I SECOND THAT  MOTION.  >> IS BECAUSE WITH EVERYTHING  ELSE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO I  JUST IT'S VERY COMPLICATED AS  OUR EXPERTS HERE WITH US TODAY  HAD SAID NO UP NOBODY ELSE HAS  DONE THEY HAVEN'T HEARD OF IT.  I I JUST THINK THAT OUR TIME  WOULD BE BETTER SPENT ON  THINGS THAT ARE. BEFORE US  INSTEAD OF GOING DOWN ANOTHER  AVENUE THAT WE COULD LOOK AT  IN THE FUTURE BUT FOR RIGHT  NOW I THINK OUR PLATE IS  EXTREMELY FULL AND WE'RE  LOOKING FOR PLATTER NOT PLAYED  AT THIS POINT. VICE MAYOR.  >> YEAH, AND I WOULD CONCUR  ESPECIALLY IN THE ONE WHO YOU  KNOW BROUGHT THIS FORTH HERE  TO THE COMMISSION. FROM THE  SUPER FRIENDS. OR A  POSSIBILITY THEY ARE AN  ALTERNATIVE. THEY BRING WITH  THEM THEIR OWN SET OF  CHALLENGES. HICCUPS  POTENTIALLY SO I SAY WE ASKED  CITIZENS OF THE CITY TO DO THE  RIGHT THING. CELLS AND. ON  BEHALF OF THE CITY AND. GIVE  US TOOLS WE NEED TO DO THE  JOB.  >> ALL RIGHT THERE'S NOTHING  ELSE WE WILL DO A VOICE VOTE  VICE MAYOR. I YES I MAYOR  WHITE IS A COMMISSIONER  LANGDON YES. MCDONALD  >> AND COMMISSIONER AVERAGE.  >> WHICH IS A YES AND I ALSO  AGREE THAT. BY NOT DOING THIS.  IT SHOWS THE CITIZENS THAT WE  ARE PUTTING THAT OUR TRUST IN  THEM AS WELL PUTTING IT INTO  US RATHER THAN SHOWING THAT  HEY WE'VE GOT A BACKUP PLAN IN  CASE FAILS. SO I'M 100% BEHIND  THIS AND AND HAVING THE  CITIZENS COME BEHIND US. SORRY  STILL NO SCHEME IN THIS YEAR.  >> IT'S ROW. ALL RIGHT SO THAT  PASSES 5, 0 AND I CONCUR  COMMISSIONER EMIRATES THAT IT  IS WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE  FORM OF GOVERNMENT FOR US TOO  MAKE DECISIONS THAT ARE IN THE  BEST INTEREST  ♪ WE I KNOW I WOULD APPRECIATE  HAVING CONFIDENT THEY CAN MAKE  A  ♪ ESSENTIALLY. FOR SOME REALLY  TOUGH ASK SUCH AS WE HAVE TO  IT SO THANK YOU COMMISSIONER  LANGDON FOR DON'T THROW THOSE  OR SUCCESSFUL MOTION. I DON'T  KNOW. YEAH RIGHT. COMMISSIONER  MCDOWELL, I'D LIKE TO TRY  MOTION IN ORDER TO DO THAT I  REALLY NEED TO TALK TO OUR  FAMOUS ENGINEER.  >> IF I MAY ASK HIM QUESTIONS  AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S  APPROPRIATE OR IF I SHOULD  JUST ASK THE GENERAL QUESTION  HAS TO DO WITH ENGINEERING TO  THE 100% DESIGN PLANS OF THE  COMMISSION GAVE DIRECTION TO  DO. AND I DON'T KNOW IF IF I  CAN JUST. HAVE COME AND BE  READY. WHILE WE DIRECTION TO  GO TO A 100% DESIGN PLANTS.  TOM AND I BELIEVE THAT WAS A 4  TO ONE VOTE.  >> HAS MOTION MAKER I ALSO WAS  UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT WE  COULD PICK AND CHOOSE AS THAT  CAME FORWARD, BUT SINCE THAT  MEETING I HAVE LEARNED THAT'S  NOT REALLY HOW DESIGN  ENGINEERING TO A 100% WORKS.  >> SO IS THERE A WAY. TO  ACCOMPLISH THE 100% DESIGN.  LANCE. TAKING INTO  CONSIDERATION THAT. WE MAY  HAVE TO NOT NECESSARILY PHASE.  CAN YOU DESIGN IT SO THAT WE  THEN IT'S NOT. FULLY DESIGNED  LIKE.  >> WHERE THE ELECTRICAL  OUTLETS GO WHERE WHERE ALL  THAT THE.  >> NOT HARD.  >> REQUIREMENTS OF THE DESIGN  BUT MORE SOFT REQUIREMENTS OF  THE DESIGN IS IS THAT  POSSIBLE.  >> SO SO THE WAY THAT THE  DESIGN PROCESS GOES IS RIGHT  NOW WE'VE GONE THROUGH A 30%  DESIGN PHASE. YOU KNOW WE'VE  ESTABLISHED ADJACENT SEAS THE  SPACES THE SCIENCES. ALL OF  THE NEEDS THAT THE DEPARTMENT  MEET AS OF TODAY. AS WE GO  INTO THE DESIGN DEVELOPMENT  PHASE WHICH WOULD BE THE NEXT  HOT NEXT PHASE IN THE PROCESS  WE WOULD START HONING IN A  LITTLE BIT MORE DETAILS ASKING  A LOT DETAIL QUESTIONS AS FAR  AS. MORE ABOUT THE SYSTEM'S  HOW BIG THEY ARE DIFFERENT  OPTIONS. THERE ARE. AND DURING  THIS PHASE EVEN DURING THE  SCHEMATIC HAVING ACM ON BOARD  IS IT WOULD BE EXTREMELY  HELPFUL I'M SORRY CONSTRUCTION  MANAGER THANK YOU. BECAUSE WE  PARTNER WITH THEM AND IN THE  PROCESS WITH THE THE OWNER  KIND OF ESTABLISHING ALL THE  DIFFERENT COMPONENTS THAT ARE  NEEDED THEY WILL HELP WITH  CONSTRUCT ABILITY THINGS AS WE  GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS. YOU  KNOW WE WILL FINISH UP THE  DESIGN DEVELOPMENT PHASE.  THOSE PLANS GO THEY START  WORKING OUT AN ESTIMATE  IDENTIFIED AND ARE IN THE  PROCESS. ONCE THEY'RE ON BOARD  THOUGH THEY'LL ALSO TAKE OVER.  IS THE THE SCHEMATIC SPACE  THAT WE'VE COMPLETED. IT WILL  PROVIDE ESTIMATE AT THAT POINT  AS WELL IDENTIFY WHERE WE ARE  TODAY. WE HAVE A BUDGET  EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE KIND OF  WORK TOWARDS TO ESTABLISH WITH  THAT BUDGET IS AND THEN THEY  WILL START GIVING US NUMBERS  THAT ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE IN  LINE WITH WHAT THEIR  EXPERIENCE START AND JUST  WHERE WE ARE. AND SO WE DO  THAT THROUGHOUT EACH FACE THE  PROCESS.  >> AND YOU.  >> HAVE THE QUESTION MY MIND  IT'S HARD TO.  >> AND YOU DO THE DESIGN TO  THE $100,000.  >> WITH THE.  >> CAVIAR THAT IT COULD GO TO  THE 122 AND GET AND INCLUDING  IOS EAT AND ALL THIS.  >> CONNECTION CAN PRE  PRESIDENT LOOK  >> WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT  WOULD MEAN DESIGNING SOMETHING  AND THEN REDESIGNED SOMETHING  SO REALLY WHERE WE ARE RIGHT  NOW IS THE PERFECT FOR US TO  SAY EITHER IT'S ONE 22 OR ITS  A 178 AND THEN WE START IN  THAT DIRECTION ANYTHING ELSE  TAKES US LONGER AND COST.  >> I ALSO REMEMBER AFTER MADE  THAT MOTION I WANT I TRIED  ANOTHER MOTION TO. BREAK IT  DOWN GET BACK TO US WHEN YOU  GOT TO 60% AND THEN GO YOU  KNOW WHEN YOU GET TO 60% BRING  IT BACK BECAUSE WE CAN STILL  MAKE SOME TWEAKS THAT 60% DONE  THAT IN THE PAST.  >> SO THIS PROJECT IS A LITTLE  DIFFERENT BECAUSE IT COMES  WITH SECURITY ELEMENT, MOST  CHECKS WHAT DOES THAT MEAN SO  YOU KNOW WE WOULDN'T SHOW OR  PLANS OF PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC  SENDING HOME. IT'S UNFORTUNATE  THE WORLD.  >> AFTER AFTER HEARING THE  CITY MANAGER'S PLAN OF NOT  GOING TO THE 100%. BUT DO IT  IN KIND OF LIKE PHASES IS  THAT. IT WAS 2 OR SUGGESTIONS  CITY MANAGER. YOU KNOW SO  WHAT.  >> WHAT I'M SUGGESTING NOW IS  BASED ON WHAT I'VE HEARD TODAY  IS THERE MEAN WE STILL NEED TO  GO TO THE 100%. WE WILL FIND A  WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT THE  PAYMENTS TO GET THEIR  INTERESTS AS WE CAPITAL  IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE NEEDED  BASED ON WHAT I MANAGER TOLD  HURRICANE IAN. IT SOUNDS LIKE  YOU ALL ARE COMMITTED TO  MAKING SURE THAT THE FUNDING  LEVEL OF THE STATION DOES NOT.  BELOW 100 MILLION AND THAT'S  WHAT YOU WANT TO GET FROM YOUR  DESIGN FROM THIS PARTICULAR  PROJECT. AT WORST CASE WORST  CASE SCENARIO IN MY OPINION IS  THAT WE. GET TO 100% COMPLETED  DESIGN AND 9 MOVES AND THEN WE  STILL HAVE TO TALK ABOUT WELL  HOW ARE WE GOING TO FUND  ALTHOUGH FUNDING SOURCES OR.  VERY CLEAR BASED ON THE 2  STUDIES AND EVERYTHING ELSE  THAT WE KNOW THAT'S GOING TO  HAPPEN OVER THE NEXT 9 MONTHS.  BUT IF WE CAN MAKE FINANCING  WORKED I THINK THAT WE CAN  BECAUSE IT'S NOT ALL ONE LUMP  SUM PAYMENT. I THINK WE'LL BE  OK WITH GETTING 200%. THANK  YOU.  >> SO THE 100 MILLION IS FOR  CONSTRUCTION, ONE 22 IS  CONSTRUCTION, FF ME.  >> CORRECT YEAH, SO THAT'S THE  ONE 22 MODEL COMMISSIONER,  THANK YOU I JUST WANT MAKE  SURE BECAUSE WE ALSO HAVE THE  100 MILLION MODEL AND I JUST  WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE  WERE GOING OUT TO 2065. IT'S  THE ONE 22 IS TOTAL PROJECT TO  THE WANT TO TO TO 2065 MODEL  GROWTH MODEL, OKAY.  >> WELL, THEN I GUESS THERE'S  NO NEED FOR A SECOND MOTION OR  ANOTHER MOTION TO CHANGE WHAT  PREVIOUS DIRECTION, THANK YOU  FOR THAT AS I AM COMMITTED TO  GOING TO THE FULL. ONE 22.  LIKE MY ORIGINAL MOTION WAS  WHICH IS STILL GOING. YEAH,  FUNDING. OKAY.  >> MEAN AND WE GET TO NUMBER  MOVIE BUT THIS IS WHAT WE READ  RIGHT BUT I'M SURE WE HAVE  WHERE THAT. SAID OF STATE.  >> OF THE FIRE DIRECTIVE BRING  IT BACK FOR AN AUGUST ABOUT  THIS QUESTION. WE NEED YOUR  EAST END THAT RIGHT, WE'RE  LOOKING AT NOVEMBER OF 2024 IS  THE ONLY OPTION FOR THE  BALLOT. WE A MOTION FOR THAT  OR WHAT BUT WE NEED.  >> YES, WE'VE DEFINITELY A  MOTION AND WE NEED TO KNOW  WHAT WHAT YOU WANT TO DO DO  WANT TO STRESS AND THE  DIRECTIONAL TOGETHER AND WE  DON'T WORK ON THE BOND  QUESTION OR DO YOU WANT US TO  CONTINUE WORKING ON THE BOND  COMMISSION TO BRING IT TO THE  NOVEMBER ELECTION TALKING WITH  THE BON SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT  WRITE, YES, LEAST APARTMENT  RIGHT. OKAY.  >> SO I WILL MAKE A MOTION.  THEY'RE READY JUST GET. MAKE A  MOTION TO PROCEED WITH BOND  REFERENDUM LANGUAGE TO BE ON  THE NOVEMBER BALLOT. FOR THE  PORT PD HEADQUARTERS.  >> ALL SECOND IT OR  DISCUSSION.  >> AND WE HAVE A MOTION MADE  BY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL TO  PUT THE.  >> ON QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY  RELATED TO THE POLICE I MEAN  FOR THE PLACE. FACILITY. THE  NOVEMBER. BALLOT. I CAN SPEAK  TO AND THAT WAS SECONDED BY  VICE MAYOR THAT. YES THAT.  >> I TOTALLY DISAGREE I THINK  THAT THE WHOLE. CONVERSATION  HERE TODAY REVOLVES AROUND THE  FACT THAT WE HAVE TO WALK  BEFORE WE RUN THE FIRST STEP  IS TO GET OURSELVES A CHARTER  AMENDMENT PUTTING BOTH ON THE  NOVEMBER BALLOT MAKE NO SENSE  TO ME. I DON'T REALISTICALLY  SEE AUGUST AS COMMISSIONER  MCDOWELL SAID AND APPROPRIATE  PLACE TO PUT A CHARTER  AMENDMENT. NEEDS TO BE ON THAT  NOVEMBER. NOW FAR AS I'M  CONCERNED I THINK WELL I HATE  TO DELAY ANYTHING I THINK IT'S  THE PROPER PLACE TO BE  OTHERWISE NOT ENOUGH IT WON'T  BE ON ENOUGH PEOPLE'S RADAR  SCREEN AND IT NEEDS TO BE THAT  SAID TO CHARTER. WE'RE 2  REFERENDUMS. THAT MAKES SENSE  TO IT WILL CONFUSE CITIZENS.  IT WILL SET ONE UP FOR  FAILURE. I SAY WE TAKE ONE  STEP AT A TIME AND NEED BE. WE  SPEND THE MONEY COMPARED TO  THE 200 MILLION DOLLARS IS  PROJECT THAT'S GOING TO COST  IN TOTAL, GOING OUT TO 2025  EVEN EARLY 25 WHENEVER THAT  GET OUT 25 MAKE SENSE FOR THE  POLICE BILLING SO I WOULD BE  DEAD SET AGAINST. DOING THIS.  >> OKAY COMMISSIONER THANK YOU  MADAM  >> I CONCUR I I WOULD BE.  >> I THINK THAT THE MOST  IMPORTANT THING FOR US TO DO  THIS YEAR. IT'S TOGETHER  CHARTER AMENDMENT TO ALLOW THE  CITY TO BORROW MONEY. MY  CONCERN WOULD BE IF IF WE HAVE  BOTH. OF THOSE REFERENDUMS  EVEN IF THEY'RE YOU KNOW ONES  IN AUGUST AND ONCE IN  NOVEMBER. I AGREE WITH VICE  MAYOR I THINK THAT'S THAT'S  ONE YOU KNOW IT WOULD SET THE  SECOND ONE UP. FOR FAILURE  WHICH I'M ALSO WE'RE DOING AN  AWFUL LOT OF WORK OVER THE  NEXT FEW MONTHS TO GET BETTER  HANDLE ON OUR REVENUE ROSE  AND. ALL OF THAT KIND OF STUFF  THEN AND I WOULD FEEL MUCH  MORE COMFORTABLE. THAT WE'RE  ABLE TO PROCEED WITH THE  POLICE HEADQUARTERS ON VERY  FIRM FOOTING KNOWING EXACTLY  HOW WE'RE GOING TO APPROACH SO  FOR BOTH OF THOSE REASONS  DEFINITELY WANT TO GET. THE  POLICE HEADQUARTERS AND A  REFERENDUM AND 25. BUT I THINK  24 HAS TO BE BONDING AUTHORITY  FOR THE CITY. I FINANCING  BORROWING AUTHORITY FOR THE  CITY. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU  MAYOR. YES, GO AHEAD.  >> MAY I MAY I ASK A QUESTION  >> IN EARLIER CONVERSATIONS I  KNOW THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY IT  STATED THAT CERTAIN  REFERENDUMS HAD TO BE AT  GENERAL ELECTIONS IS THIS ONE  OF THEM THAT HAS TO BE AT  GENERAL ELECTION.  >> CHAINS, SCHOOL. CHARTER  AMENDMENT HAS TO BE DONE  GENERAL ELECTION THE BOND  QUESTION CAN BE GENERAL A  SPECIAL, AND WHATEVER YOU WANT  DIRECT.  >> OKAY SO I JUST WANTED TO  MAKE SURE THE IT DIDN'T IF IF  WE'RE WAITING 2 MORE YEARS  THAT THAT I DID NOT WANT TO  WAIT FOR SO BUT I AGREE I HAVE  MY TO MY MY BOX DOW MAYOR  WHILE I'M HERE.  ♪ I DO AGREE I DO NOT  ♪ LIKE TO REFERENDUM QUESTIONS  ON THE BALLOT. I'M I'M SORT OF  IN FAVOR OF ACTUALLY HAVING IT  ON THE BALLOT. SO WE CAN GET  IT DONE AND OVER WITH ONE FELL  SWOOP. THIS TIME WE CAN ALWAYS  BRING IT BACK NEXT YEAR IF  THAT SALES. AND WE SHOULD KNOW  WHAT MORE OF OUR MONEYS WOULD  BE LIKE AFTER THIS ELECTION  AND WHAT WE'VE GOT AND WE  COULD BE MORE POINTS PACIFIC.  LATER ON AS WELL SO I'D BE A A  B A S.  >> I VOTE YEAH AS A MOTION  MAKER THE REASON THAT.  >> SO I FEEL LIKE THIS IS DEJA  VU BECAUSE I WAS THE ONE WHO  SUGGESTED NOT DOING 2  REFERENDUMS IN NOVEMBER AND  SUGGESTED DOING ONE IN AUGUST  OF THE PRIMARY LEARNED THAT  THAT IS NOT THE APPROPRIATE  ACTION TO TAKE FOR VOTERS  BECAUSE AUGUST IS NOT A  PRIMARY FOR EVERYBODY. SO NOW  WE'RE BACK TO 2 REFERENDUMS IN  NOVEMBER. I AM ABSOLUTELY  CONVINCED. OUR VOTERS ARE  SMART ENOUGH TO SEPARATE THE 2  REFERENDUM QUESTIONS. ONE IS  FOR PD AND THE OTHER IS TO  CHANGE THE CHARTER. THEY'RE  NOT RELATED. BECAUSE. I I  DON'T WANT TO TAKE A CHANCE  THAT THE CHARTER REFERENDUM  DOES NOT PASS. AND THEN WE'RE  LEFT WITH THEN HAVING TO  REVISIT FOR PD IF WE WAIT TO  HAVE REFERENDUM ON THE BALLOT.  AND IF WE DO IT IN 25 THAT'S A  SPECIAL ELECTION. SO THEN  WE'RE TECHNICALLY REALLY  WAITING FOR 26, WHICH IS 2  YEARS 2 AND A HALF YEARS FROM  NOW. BECAUSE THEN WE HAVE THE  COST OF A SPECIAL ELECTION IN  2025. SO I. I'M NOT CHANGING  MY MOTION AND I SINCERELY HOPE  THAT IT DOES PASS BECAUSE OUR  VOTERS ARE SMART. THEY KNOW  WHAT THEY WANT THEY KNOW WE  NEED WE NEED A POLICE STATION.  I AM CONVINCED THAT THIS. THIS  WILL PASS AND IF IT DOESN'T  THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO  REVISIT BOTH OF THEM ANYWAYS.  THANK ALL RIGHT SO WE DO HAVE  A MOTION CITY JUST I'M SORRY I  SWEAR THIS COLUMN,  >> I REALLY BELIEVE THIS ISSUE  OF OUR ARSES SMART ENOUGH OUR  CITIZENS ARE PRETTY SMART BUT  THAT ISN'T THE ISSUE HERE. THE  ISSUE IS.  >> THAT. AS WE SIT, LET'S  LET'S FOR A MINUTE THINK ABOUT  IF WE SIMPLY REMOVED. THE  CHARTER AMENDMENT. PROPOSAL  HERE. AND IT'S JUST SIMPLY  WENT THAT'S AS WAS ORIGINALLY  PLANNED. NOT THAT LONG AGO TO  JUST GO AND PEOPLE TO. VOTE ON  THIS POLICE BOOKING THE MONEY.  WHOLE ESSENCE OF THIS MEETING  TODAY WAS ALL ABOUT  REALIZATION THAT WITHOUT THE  TOOLS. TO BE CREATIVE. IN  TERMS OF OUR ABILITY TO  FINANCE AND TO LEVERAGE INTO  THE FUTURE SO THAT WE COULD  ACTUALLY GIVE THE POLICE  DEPARTMENT HEADQUARTERS THEY  NEED AND AT THE SAME TIME NOT  GOT THE CITY'S PILLARS THAT'S  THE WHOLE IDEA TO PUT BOTH ON  THE BALLOT. HOW CAN ASK THE  CITIZENS TO VOTE FOR SOMETHING  THAT WITHOUT THE CHARTER  AMENDMENT TAKING PLACE IN OUR  ABILITY TO BORROW WE ARE GOING  TO HAVE THE MONEY TO FULFILL  SO ASK IT. IT'S NOT  APPROPRIATE TO ASK UNTIL YOU  KNOW HOW TO PAY FOR IF I WAS A  CITIZEN. I WANT VOTE FOR IT TO  LIKE GOING TO PAID FOR THAT'S  THE PROBLEM. WE'VE HAD HERE  THAT'S THE WHOLE CHAIN OF THIS  ENTIRE DAY WE'VE SPEND YOU'RE  TALKING ABOUT SO I APPRECIATE  THE NEED TO PUT IT OUT THERE  IT'S NOT A NICHE OR FAR  CITIZENS BEING SMART ENOUGH.  THERE ARE PLENTY SMART FAR AS  ANY OF US CELL WHERE CITIZENS.  SO YOU KNOW THAT'S NOT THE  ISSUE THE ISSUE IS THAT WE GOT  UP TAKE ONE STEP AT A TIME WE  CAN'T DO THIS POLICE PROJECT  AND LEST WE HAVE A CHARTER  AMENDMENT BORROW MONEY BECAUSE  THE IMPLICATION THROUGH CITY  THIS POLICE BUILDING DOES NOT  WITHIN A SEPARATE BUBBLE. IT'S  PART CITY. AND TODAY, I MEAN  WE GOT PILLARS WE GOT ALL  KINDS OF PRIORITIES THAT ALL  IMPORTANT AND YOU JUST CAN'T  MAKE A DECISION ABOUT ONE  THING CONSIDERING ALL THE  OTHERS. THEY ARE TIE TOGETHER  THEY ARE NOT SEPARATE ITEMS  AND ONE SHOULD BE DONE BEFORE  THE OTHER IN MY OPINION.  >> ALL WE DO HAVE A MOTION  LIKE TO CALL FOR A A LIKE BEAT  IT TO BUT CAN YOU JUST READ  THE MOTION BACK TO UNDERSTAND  AGAIN CLEAR RATHER.  >> TO PROCEED BUT REFERENDUM  LINE WHICH SHOULD BE ON THE  NOVEMBER BALLOT FOR THE NORTH  PORT POLICE DEPARTMENT  HEADQUARTERS NOW CLARIFY  NOVEMBER OF 24.  >> OK SO THAT WAS FOR THE  POLICE DEPARTMENT BOND ONLY  AND THAT WAS A MOTION WITH  MADE BY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL  THAT WAS SECONDED BY VICE  MAYOR. YEAH, SO WE WILL NOW  VOTE VICE MAYOR AND THE KNOW.  A WHITE I AM NO.  >> COMMISSIONER LANGDON I AM I  KNOW.  >> DO YES.  >> AND COMMISSIONER EMRICH  EACH.  >> I WAS STILL A YES, BUT IT  PASSED SO IT WON'T BE THERE  ANYWAY. SO. WHAT HOW YOU VOTE  VOTED YES I AM SORRY YOU  DIDN'T HEAR ME. NO WE DIDN'T.  ALL RIGHT ALL IT ALL.  >> OKAY, SO OR TO NOW THE THAT  FED VERY VERY TOO. HE SAID  FAILED WITH A VOTE OF 2 TO 3  >> SO.  >> THAT IS WE HAVE ANYTHING  ELSE THAT AND SO SINCE THAT  MOTION FAILED YES, WHAT IS  STILL STANDING IS YOUR  DIRECTION TO BRING BACK PPD  BOND REFERENDUM AT THE AUGUST.  AUGUST BALLOT. SO WE MIGHT  NEED YOU ALL TO.  >> TO US IN THAT SO I THAT WAS  GOING ALL RIGHT SO WE KNOW YES  THEY HAVE. MAKE A MOTION TO  INSTRUCT CITY WITH CITY  MANAGER CITY ATTORNEY STAFF.  GREECE ACTUALLY IT'S US LET  START OVER AGAIN.  >> I MOVE TO RESCIND THE  COMMISSION'S PREVIOUS  DECISION. TO PLACE THE POLICE.  >> HEADQUARTER BOND  REFERENDUM. ON THE AUGUST.  BALLOT SECOND.  >> ALL RIGHT SO WE HAVE A  MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER  LANGDON. WOULD YOU CAPTURE  WITH THAT SO WE DON'T.  >> WHERE THERE IS SEND THE  PRIOR COMMISSION DIRECTION TO  PLACE THE PLACE HEADQUARTER  BOND REFERENDUM ON THE AUGUST  BALLOT.  >> ALL RIGHT THAT WAS MAYBE  COMMISSIONER LANGDON AND  SECONDED BY VICE MAYOR. DO WE  HAVE ANY FOR THAT DISCUSSION  ON THAT SO THIS IS A MOTION TO  RESCIND THAT. COMMISSIONER  MCDOWELL.  >> AND I WILL SUPPORT THE  MOTION BUT NOT ON THE MERITS  OF THE MOTION. I FIRMLY  BELIEVE WE NEED TO MOVE  FORWARD WITH THE POLICE  DEPARTMENT BUT I HAD ELECTION  IS NOT CONDUCIVE FOR ALL OF  THE VOTERS.  >> ALL RIGHT SO WHERE EVERYONE  VOTING TO EITHER RESCIND OR  NOT RECENT HISTORY RESPOND TO  RECENT, BUT I'M SAYING THAT  THAT'S HOW ALMOST LIKE THE  OPPOSITE FOR VOTING. YES, IF  YOU WANT TO VOTE IF THEY WANT  TO KNOW THAT TRUSTED THAT GET  IT. ALL RIGHT BOYS VICE MAYOR.  WHY I'M A YES COMMISSIONER  LANGDON I'M A YES DO YES. AND  COMMISSIONER AVERAGE.  >> I'M GOING TO BE A NO  BECAUSE I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT  THE ANSWERS WOULD BE AT THE  VOTING POLLS. I THINK IT WOULD  PASS SO I GOT TO STICK WITH MY  MY GUT.  >> SO THAT PASSES 4 TO ONE AND  MISTER STATED REASONS. SO  DEGREES DUE TO THE MATCH  ANYTHING ELSE CAUSE IT OUR  CITY ATTORNEY WERE ALSO  BROUGHT ALL GOOD. OKAY.  >> DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC  COMMENT SHOP ALL RIGHT. YOU  ARE AREAS. OFF.  >> ALL GIRL'S IS ARE REALLY  APPRECIATE YOU GUYS KIND OF  TAKING A STEP BACK AFTER  LISTENING TO THE PUBLIC COME  UP.  >> WE REALLY NEED TO PLACE  APARTMENT. HAMMER WITH IT TO  GET IT. BUT RIGHT NOW YOU  DRIVE AROUND CITY. MATTER  HANGING. THE FRIDGE IS SHOP  MICROWAVE DOESN'T WORK AND YOU  GUYS ARE TRYING TO BUY A BMW.  I MEAN JUST JUST HELP US GET  TO WHERE THE CITIZENS BANK  THAT YOU CARE ABOUT US AND  THAT PROMISE WE'LL HELP  YOU OUT. BUT RIGHT NOW WE CAN  YOU KNOW IT BY THE MAYOR AND  THEN THERE'S THE CLC THING OUT  THERE THAT EVERYBODY IS  FREAKING OUT ABOUT BECAUSE WE  ALL AS PART OF THE POLICE  STATION. SO YOU WANT TO BE  MAYOR AND YOU WANT BOAT BY THE  WAY DOESN'T WORK. SO JUST TO  TAKE A SECOND THINK ABOUT I  ASKED MY FREQUENT FLIER  QUESTION EARLIER THAT'S WHY I  ASK THAT. LIKE I SAID EVERYONE  I IT'S 90%, CERTAIN EMPLOYEES  STATION, IT'S JUST. AND THEN  WHEN YOU BROUGHT THAT ON THE  ROOF OF THE NET EFFECT. BUT  YOU KNOW ALSO I REALLY HOPE  YOU GUYS GET THE WORD OUT ON  THE FACT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO  USE THE OLD POLICE STATION FOR  SOMETHING AS WE ALL THINK  YOU'RE GOING TO JUST THE START  OF SOMETHING THERE'S OUT THERE  ON WHAT YOUR PLAN US. SO CAN  YOU JUST KIND OF COMMUNICATE  WITH US BETTER WE REALLY  APPRECIATE IT. I GET ALL THAT.  ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.  >> SO IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE  WE GET. YES, OKAY, SO TOAST  IT'S 4.57 AND I HAD MEETINGS.  ♪ >> TO CLEAR THE ROADS OF ANY  ♪ >> HAUSER'S US SO THAT OUR  VEHICLES CAN GET THROUGH AND  RESPOND THE CAUSE. JUST KEEP  THAT IN MIND WHEN YOU CALL  AFTER DISASTER FOR CITIZENS,  WE ARE COMING. WE ARE VERY  IMPORTANT TO US TO CARE ABOUT  OUR RESIDENT AND THAT SAFETY,  BUT IT MAY JUST TAKE A WHILE  FOR US TO GET TO THE SCENE ON  THAT  ♪ >> I'M STACEY LOS YOU KNOW ON  THE EMERGENCY 1ST QUARTER AND  THEY ARE GOING THAT STORM  SURGE AND FLOODING OVER NEXT  OR SO STORM SURGE IS STRONG  SUSTAINED WINDS OVER A LONG  PERIOD OF TIME OVER THE GOAL  PUSHING WATER UP TO SHORE NOT  HAPPEN. THERE'S A LOT OF  FLOODING A LOT OF BEACH  EROSION ALONG TEACHER AND THE  HOME. IT HOWEVER THIS STORM  CAN ALSO PUSH WATER OF THE  RIVER PUSHED ON THE MYAKKA  RIVER FOR INSTANCE, AGO AND  THEN THE WATER COMING  DOWNSTREAM FROM THE RIVER HAS  ORDERED TO DO. I COULD CAUSE  WATER TO BACK THAT ALONG WITH  A LOT OF RAIN THAT COMES FROM  ALSO CAUSED INCREASE OF WATER  FLOODING INTO THE RIVER AND  INTO OUR WATER  ♪ MANAGEMENT CAUSING FLOODING  WELL. PUBLIC THERE'S A LOT OF  WORK BEFORE THE STORM TO MAKE  SURE THAT OUR WATER LEVELS  POSSIBLE FOR AND THE WAR  AGAINST STORM SURGE FLOODING  IN OUR WATER SYSTEMS IF YOU  WANT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON  THAT WE HAVE A GREAT THAT A  LOT FOLKS  ♪ >> HELLO EVERYONE, MY NAME IS  THE VAN PULL ON THE AQUATICS  MANAGER WITHIN OUR PARKS  RECREATION DEPARTMENT WERE  HERE TODAY AT THE NORTH PORT  AQUATIC CENTER JUST TO TALK TO  EVERYONE ABOUT OUR FLOW FOR  LIFE PROGRAM WE RECOGNIZE THAT  NATIONALLY UNINTENTIONAL  DROWNING IS THE LEADING CAUSE  OF DEATH FOR CHILDREN UNDER  UNDER THE AGE OF 4. SO WE HAVE  AN AWESOME PROGRAM HERE CALLED  FLOAT FOR LIFE. BLOW FOR LIFE  IS A PROGRAM THAT WE TEACH  THAT STARTS WITH THE  FUNDAMENTALS OF FLOATING  BEFORE WE ACTUALLY LEARNED  SWIMMING. THIS PROGRAM IS  TARGETED FOR THOSE CHILDREN  AGES 6 MONTHS TO AND WHAT WE  WANT THEM TO DO IS WE WANT  THEM TO GET COMFORTABLE IN THE  WATER AND IF THEY ACTUALLY  FALL IN THE WATER WHERE FIND  THEMSELVES IN A TROUBLED  SITUATION, THEY CAN ROLL OVER  THEIR BACK AND FLOAT WHEN WE  LAUNCHED THIS PROGRAM I WE'RE  THE ONLY ONE IN THE STATE THAT  WAS ACTUALLY TEACHING THIS  MILESTONE PROGRAM SO WANT TO  GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO OUR KOREA  AS WELL WHO SPONSORED THIS  PROGRAM HERE AT THE AQUATIC  CENTER AND ACTUALLY PAY FOR A  TRAINER TO COME ALL THE WAY  FROM NEBRASKA WHERE THIS  PROGRAM ORIGINATES THERE WE  PRACTICE AND WE GO THROUGH  WHAT'S CALLED MILESTONES HERE  SO AS SOON AS THE KIDS  PROGRESSIVE, THE MILESTONE CAN  CONTINUE MOVING ON THROUGH  THEM AND AT THE END OF IT IT'S  A PRETTY AWESOME PROGRAM WHEN  THEY GRADUATE AS ONE OF THE  FINAL THINGS THAT THEY DO IS  THEY JUMP IN FULLY CLOTHED AND  THEY HAVE TO TURN OVER ROLL  OVER ON THE BACK AND ACTUALLY  BE ABLE TO SCREAM FOR HELP AND  POINT IN TIME, IT'S JUST AN  AWESOME SEGMENT PROGRAM THAT  LEADS RIGHT INTO OUR LEARN TO  SWIM PROGRAM SO THAT WAY WE  CAN MAKE  ♪ SURE WE'RE KEEPING OUR KIDS  SAFE IN ON AND AROUND THE  WATER.  >> FRANK THOMAS ALWAYS MANAGER  I AM HERE TODAY WITH NOW  REOPENED DIDDY MARIO TELL  PEOPLE HERE HAVE ONLY BEEN  DOING THIS JOB, I'VE BEEN HERE  5 YES 5 YEARS EXCELLENT  EXCELLENT SO TELL PEOPLE WHAT  IT ENTAILS WHAT YOU DO. THE  PLAN IS SCHEDULED FOR SOLID  WASTE THE CITY I GO OUT AND  AGREE THE NEW RESIDENTS  TONIGHT, EDUCATE THEM ON  RECYCLE EXCELLENT SOUNDS  INTERESTING VERY AREA WHEN HE  FOUND INSIDE THE RECYCLING  BINS SHOULDN'T BE THERE SO  LET'S TRY TO TELL THE PEOPLE  HOW TO RECYCLE  ♪ MOST COMMON THING I FIND  FRANCIS PLASTIC BAGS.  >> SO START TO NOT RECYCLABLE  I FIND JUST POSTING THE  CONTAINER FOR THE RECYCLE WITH  HIM  ♪ AND MISSION IS DECIDEDLY  COUNTRY THAT'S RIGHT INSIDE  THE BLUE CONTAINERS. AND THEY  SHOULD BE YOU TAKEN BACK TO  THE GROCERY STORE OR TOSS IN  THE TRASH OR DO SEE A LOT OF  RECYCLING INSIDE THE  CONTAINERS I COME ACROSS A LOT  WANT TO DO THAT SO.  >> OKAY, SO IF YOU HAVE ANY  QUESTIONS YOU CAN ALWAYS LOOK  AT OUR WEBSITE WW DOT NORTH  PORT FLORIDA DOT GOV SLASH  SOLID WASTE.  ♪ >> I'M STACEY LOSO I'M THE  EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT  COORDINATOR FOR THE CITY  OF NORTH PORT AND WE'RE GOING  TO TALK ABOUT WHY IT'S  IMPORTANT TO HAVE A GO KIT AND  WHAT SHOULD GO INSIDE OF IT,  IT'S IMPORTANT HAVE A GO BAG  BECAUSE IF YOU WAIT LAST  MINUTE TO PACK THEY'RE  DEFINITELY GOING TO BE ITEMS  THAT YOU'RE GOING TO FORGET  AND THE SCRAMBLE TO GET  EVERYTHING TOGETHER SO IT'S  IMPORTANT TO YOUR DOCUMENTS  SUCH AS ID'S INSURANCE  PAPERWORK TITLES FOR YOUR HOME  AND YOUR VEHICLES AND YOUR  BOATS JUST SO THAT IF YOUR  HOME DOES FLOOD OR ALL THOSE  DOCUMENTS ARE WITH YOU AND  THEY'RE SAFE BECAUSE YOU DON'T  WANT TO END UP LOSING THOSE  AND HAVING TO TRY TO REPLACE  THOSE LATER ON ALSO IN YOUR GO  BAG THAT YOU SHOULD THINK  ABOUT WHAT MEDICATIONS YOU  MIGHT NEED TO HAVE AHEAD OF  TIME FOR UNDER A STATE OF  EMERGENCY YOU ARE ABLE TO  REFILL YOUR PRESCRIPTIONS  AHEAD OF TIME EVEN IF THEY'RE  NOT DO YET. SO IT'S IMPORTANT  TO DO THAT ALSO IN YOUR GO  BAGS YOU SHOULD HAVE  NON-PERISHABLE FOOD FLASHLIGHT  BATTERIES, A RADIO THAT IS  BATTERY POWERED AND EXTRA  BATTERIES SHOULD ALL POWER GO  OUT WE WILL BE ABLE TO  BROADCAST ON 97.5 FM ANY  EMERGENCY INFORMATION SO BE  SURE TO HAVE  ♪ BATTERY POWERED RADIO READY IN  TUNED IN TO 97 POINT.  >> I'M STACEY LOS SALE AND THE  EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT  COORDINATOR FOR THE CITY  OF NORTH PORT AND I'M GOING TO  TELL YOU THE DIFFERENCE  BETWEEN FLOOD ZONES AND  EVACUATION ZONES ARE IN  SARASOTA COUNTY. WE CALL THEM  EVACUATION LEVELS. SO FLOOD  ZONES ARE GENERATED BY FEMA  AND THEY'RE USED TO DETERMINE  THE LIKELIHOOD THAT YOU'LL  FLOOD AND THEY'RE USED TO  DETERMINE IF YOU NEED FLOOD  INSURANCE IF YOU HAVE A  MORTGAGE ON YOUR HOME. NOW THE  EVACUATION ZONES ARE BASED ON  STORM SURGE DATA THAT COMES  FROM THE NATIONAL HURRICANE  CENTER. AND THEY USE  TOPOGRAPHY AS WELL AS  HURRICANE VULNERABILITY FOR  STORM SURGE FOR THE AREA AND  WE USE THOSE TO DETERMINE WHO  NEEDS TO EVACUATE DURING A  STORM SO IT'S IMPORTANT  UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A  DIFFERENCE IF YOU'RE  INTERESTED IN FINDING OUT WHAT  EVACUATION ZONE YOU ARE AND  WHICH WE HIGHLY RECOMMEND YOU  DO. YOU CAN USE YOUR SEARCH  ENGINE OF CHOICE. AND TYPE  SARASOTA COUNTY KNOW YOUR  LEVEL AND THAT WILL TAKE YOU  TO THE SARASOTA COUNTY  GOVERNMENT WEBSITE.  >> WATER IN US WELL THAT'S  KIND OF THE DITCH. MY YOUR  HOUSE IS NOT FLOODING.  ♪ WITHIN US AFTER STORM EVENT  WATER SHOULD  ♪ BE IN THAT SWELL TO 72 HOURS  AFTER THE STORM. THAT ALLOWS  THE WATER BUILT TO GET THE  STUFF THAT CAME OUT FOR ROOM  AND THE ROAD OUT OF THE WATER  SO THAT WHEN REACHES THE  HABITAT IT NO LONGER HAS THOSE  CONTAMINANTS  ♪ IT ALSO PROVIDES OPPORTUNITY  TO SLOW DOWN WATERS SO THAT  THE WATER DOESN'T GO SO FAST  THAT ERODES ROADWAYS ANY OTHER  INFRASTRUCTURE, SO WHEN YOU  SEE WATER IN ONLY YOU KNOW UP  TO 72 HOURS SINCE THE  ♪ LAST RAIN THAT IS NOT LETTING  THAT IS DOING ITS JOB.  >> HELLO MY NAME'S A VAN FULL  PRODUCTS FACILITY MANAGER WITH  THE CITY OF NORTH PORT AND  TODAY WE'RE GOING TO BE  TALKING WITH YOU GUYS ABOUT  OUR FREE SWIM EVALUATION. IT'S  IMPORTANT THAT WE DO NEED  EVALUATIONS SO KIDS  REGISTERING FOR SWIM PROGRAMS  THEY GET PLACED IN THE RIGHT  CLASS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT  MORE DOING THAT'S SOMETHING  YOU ATION IS EVERY SWIM LEVEL  HAS WHAT'S CALLED EXIT SKILL  ASSESSMENTS. SO WHAT WE DO IS  WE HAVE YOUR CHILD GET IN THE  WATER AND WILL GO THROUGH A  SERIES OF DIFFERENT MOVEMENTS  CAN YOU GO INTO THE WATER I  CAN YOU SHOW US YOUR PHONE  CALL CAN YOU SHOW US BACK ALL  SHOWS ELEMENTARY BACK  DIFFERENT STROKES WITHIN AND  WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE  TRYING TO SEE. YOUR CHILD TEST  TO BEFORE IT BECOMES A  CHALLENGE FOR THEM AT THAT  POINT WHAT WE ASSESS THAT THAT  WILL LET YOU KNOW AND YOU CAN  GO AHEAD AND SIGN YOUR CHILD  UP FOR THAT APPROPRIATE LEVEL  THERE. IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE  HAVE THESE SO THAT WAY WHEN  WE'RE TEACHING A LEVEL ONE WE  DON'T HAVE KIDS THAT SHOULD  POTENTIALLY A LEVEL 2 AND  LEVEL ONE CLASS BECAUSE  THEY'RE NOT LEARNING THE  APPROPRIATE SKILLS THAT THEY  NEEDED THAT POINT IN TIME  RIGHT NOW WHEN WE'RE IN FULL  SUMMER WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE  COME BETWEEN 8.10 DEDUCED FROM  A VALUATION JUST AS YOU CAN  HEAR THE WATER SPLASHING IN  THE BACKGROUND SLIDE.  EVERYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT ANY  DAY OF THE THAT OPEN YOU CAN  COME IN AT ANY POINT IN TIME  ENOUGH FOR SOME EVALUATIONS WE  ALWAYS HAVE A CERTIFIED SO  MUCH DOCTOR ON SITE THAT HAVE  YOUR CHILD TAKE A SWIM  ASSESSMENT.  ♪ >> I'M STACEY LASALLE AND THE  EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT  COORDINATOR FOR THE CITY  OF NORTH PORT AND I'M GOING TO  BE TALKING ABOUT HAVING AN  EVACUATION PLAN IT'S A POINT  HAVE AN EVACUATION PLAN AHEAD  OF TIME AND IT'S VERY  IMPORTANT TO WRITE IT DOWN  BECAUSE THAT WAY YOU HAVE IT  SOMEWHERE PRESENT FOR  EVERYBODY IN YOUR FAMILY CAN  SEE IT AND KEEP IT FRESH IN  THEIR MINDS AND YOU WANT TO  ALSO SHARE IT WITH PEOPLE IN  YOUR FAMILY OR YOUR NEIGHBORS  SO THAT THEY KNOW WHAT YOUR  PLANS ARE AHEAD OF TIME AND  HOW TO GET A HOLD OF YOUR WAY  TO LOOK FOR YOU AFTER A  DISASTER FOR YOUR EVACUATION  YOU SHOULD HAVE MULTIPLE  ROUTES TO GET TO LOCATION.  YOU'RE PLANNING TO GO TO JUST  BECAUSE TRAFFIC WAS TRAFFIC ON  75 MIGHT BE GRIDLOCKED THERE  COULD BE SOME VERY GOOD BACK  ROADS TO GET TO WHERE YOU'RE  GOING THAT COULD GET YOU THERE  MORE QUICKLY WITHOUT BEING  STUCK IN TRAFFIC WHEN YOU'RE  MAKING EVACUATION PLAN. WE  USUALLY TELL YOU 4 DIFFERENT  THINGS YOU SHOULD STAY HOME IF  YOU ARE NOT IN HIS OWN THAT'S  BEING EVACUATED AND IF YOUR  HOME IS BUILT TO WITHSTAND THE  FORECASTED STORM IF YOU CAN  STAY HOME. AND YOU EVACUATE  YOUR NEXT OPTION SHOULD BE TO  GO TO A FRIEND OUR FAMILY'S  HOME THAT IS OUTSIDE OF THE  EVACUATION AREA AND IT IS  STRUCTURALLY SOUND TO US AND  THE STORM 3RD OPTION WOULD BE  GO TO A HOTEL. THEY'RE MUCH  MORE COMFORTABLE THAN I BACK  AWAY SHUNS CENTER'S 4TH OPTION  WOULD BE TO GO TO ONE OF OUR  EVACUATION CENTER SARASOTA  COUNTY HAS FALLEN BACK AWAY  ♪ SHUNS CENTER'S. THOSE CAN BE  FOUND ON THEIR WEBSITE.  >> WHY DO WE FLOOD. DURING  SIGNIFICANT RAIN EVENTS PORT  NEARLY ALWAYS FLOODS IN  CERTAIN AREAS OF THE CITY.  THIS IS THANKS TO THE LOCALLY  NAMED MYAKKA HACHI CREEK ALSO  KNOWN AS THE BIG SLEW  WATERSHED.  >> THE 195 SQUARE MILE  DRAINAGE AREA FLOWS THROUGH  DESOTO MANATEE AND SARASOTA  COUNTIES THEN THROUGH OUR CITY  TO EXIT AT CHARLOTTE HARBOR.  AS THE CITY OF NORTH PORT IS  LOCATED AT THE LOW END OF THE  BIG SLEW WATERSHED DRAINAGE  SYSTEM. THE CITY'S CURRENT  FLOODING AND WATER QUALITY  CONDITIONS ARE ATTRIBUTED NOT  ONLY TO THE CITY'S GROWTH BUT  ALSO TO UPSTREAM RUNOFF AND  THE DESOTO MANATEE AND  SARASOTA COUNTY PORTIONS OF  THE BIG SLOW. DURING  SIGNIFICANT RAIN EVENTS  PONDING CAN ALSO OCCUR PONDING  OCCURS AND LOW-LYING AREAS  THAT ARE CHARACTERIZED BY  POORLY DRAINED OR SUPER  SATURATED SOILS WITH  BACK-TO-BACK RAINFALL EVENTS  THE GROUND IS TOTALLY  SATURATED WHICH INCREASES THE  RUNOFF DURING A STORM. THE  CITY WORKS HARD TO MAINTAIN  ITS STORMWATER CONVEYANCE  SYSTEM WHICH IS COMPRISED OF  ROADSIDE SWALES DRAINING INTO  79 MILES OF NAMED WATERWAYS.  >> AND 132 MILES OF RETENTION  DITCHES THAT INTERCONNECT WITH  EACH OTHER AND WITH THE MYAKKA  HACHI CREEK. THERE ARE 64  WATER CONTROL STRUCTURES OF  WHICH 23 ARE GATED WATER  CONTROL STRUCTURES 5 ARE GATED  DROP STRUCTURES, 28 ARE FIXED.  WE'RE STRUCTURES AND 8 ARE  DROPPED STRUCTURES. THE  CONTROL ELEVATIONS OF THESE  STRUCTURES ARE DESIGNED SO  THAT WATER IS RETAINED IN THE  WATERWAYS AND A STEP-DOWN  ELEVATION SYSTEM  CONFIGURATION.  >> THIS MEANS THE WATER LEVELS  IN THE WATERWAY SEGMENTS  BETWEEN STRUCTURES  PROGRESSIVELY DECREASES IN  ELEVATION FROM NORTH TO SOUTH  AND FROM EAST TO WEST. THIS  SYSTEM CONFIGURATION ALLOWS  BOTH RETENTION OF STORM WATER  RUNOFF FOR WATER QUALITY  TREATMENT AND STORAGE FOR  POTABLE WATER USE IN  PREPARATION FOR A STORM, THE  GATES ARE OPENED AS NEEDED TO  CONVEY A FLOOD WATERS.  >> THE CITY HAS AN ONGOING  PROGRAM TO INSPECT AND REPLACE  OLD CORRODED STRUCTURES SINCE  2006 13 OF THE HIGH PRIORITIES  STRUCTURES HAVE BEEN REPLACED  OR REHABILITATED THE CITY ALSO  HAS A PROGRAM TO CLEAR THE  DITCHES OF SEDIMENT DEPOSITS  THAT HAVE ACCUMULATED OVER  TIME AND CLEAR FALLEN TREES  AND DEBRIS IN THE MYAKKA HACHI  CREEK. THIS ALSO HELPS RESTORE  THE FLOW CAPACITY OF THE  WATERWAYS.  >> MY STORY SHORT NORTH PORT  IS PRONE TO FLOODING, BUT THE  CITY WORKS HARD TO MAINTAIN  CAN VANCE CHANNELS WATER  CONTROL STRUCTURES AND  PROCEDURES PUT IN PLACE TO  LESSEN THE IMPACT. WHEN THERE  IS A HURRICANE OR SIGNIFICANT  RAIN EVENT. THE CITY GETS INTO  RESPONSE IN RECOVERY MODE  QUICKLY AFTER PLEASE STAY SAFE  OUT THERE.  >> OH MY  ♪ >> EVERYONE MY NAME IS MARIO  OF NVIDIA I AM THE PLAN OR  SCHEDULE OR FOR THE CITY  OF NORTH PORT SOLID WASTE A  GOOD INTO THIS POSITION. FIRST  I WAS RECYCLED DRIVER FOR 5  YEARS FOR THE AND THEN I  BECAME THE PLAN A SCHEDULE  AFTER TAKING AN INTEREST  EDUCATING RESIDENTS ON HOW TO  RECYCLE PROPERLY MY POSITION  MY DAY-TO-DAY USUALLY I START  OUT BY VISITING THE NEW  RESIDENTS THAT SCHEDULE  GARBAGE AND RECYCLING  CONTAINERS TO BE DELIVERED AND  I WILL GO SEE THEM AND EDUCATE  THEM ON A SOLID WASTE  GUIDELINES MORE LESS MORE  FOCUSED RECYCLE PART OF AFTER  THAT I WILL DRIVE AROUND THE  CITY AND I ACTUALLY EXPECT  CYCLE CONTAINERS MANUALLY.  ♪ FOR CONTAMINATION. AND THEN I  WILL TAKE CALLS FROM DRIVERS  IF THERE'S  ♪ ANY ISSUES WITHOUT REPEAT.  GARBAGE IN RECYCLE AND I WILL  GO EDUCATE THE WHAT I LOVE  MOST ABOUT THE NORFORK IS  THERE ARE FROM ALL OVER THE  WORLD.  ♪ I GET TO LEARN ABOUT THE SOLID  WASTE GUIDELINES WHEN THEY  COME FROM AS WELL AS EDUCATE  THEM ON THE CITY NORTH PORT'S  ALWAYS GUIDELINES HOW TO  ♪ RECYCLE PROPERLY.  >> BELIEVE THAT THE NATURAL  RESOURCES DEPARTMENT WILL BE  INTEGRAL PART FOR THE CITY'S  GROWTH IS WE WANT TO ACHIEVE A  MORE BALANCED APPROACH OF  DEVELOPMENT IN THE FUTURE WHAT  WE REALLY WANT TO DO IS SEE  SENSIBLE DEVELOPMENT  SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT.  >> AND ABOUT A MONTH THAT IN  LYON WAIVES WHAT WE DO HAVE  ALREADY HAVE HASTENED WE WANT  TO PRESERVE AS MUCH AS WE CAN  OF NATURAL RESOURCES, SO THAT  IS STILL PLACE FULL ON EXTRA  ZAW ALL MIKE WRITING BAD  SADDLE THE OF THE SPECIES THAT  AND SURVIVED IT ALL HABITAT  THAT ROLE SYSTEMS. BIG PART  OF.  >> THE WAYS YOU CALL SYSTEMS  FUNCTION IMPORTANT PARTS FOR  OUR COMMUNITY, OUR LIST THE  SPECIES THEY STABILIZE THE  SOIL THEY PROVIDE. SO MANY  DIFFERENT BENEFITS, INCLUDING  SHADE LIMITING THE HEAT ISLAND  EFFECTS WITHIN OUR CITY  ♪ PROVIDING HABITAT PROVIDING  SHELTER FOR THE SPECIES. AND  JUST TO ALSO FOR OUR IS THAT  HE CAN JOIN MINCE WELL AS AN A  LOT OF WHAT I DO IS.  >> MAKING SURE THAT  DEVELOPMENT CONFORMS TO THE  TREE PROTECTION CODE SO ONE  THING WE ALREADY HAVE IN PLACE  SINCE APRIL OF 2022. IS A TREE  PROTECTION CODE WHICH IS QUITE  ROBUST AND THE CITY OF NORTH  PORT THAT WAS ADOPTED BY  COMMISSION AND THE CITY ALSO A  LOT OF COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT  AND SO WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO  HAVE THE TREE PROTECTION CODE  SO.  >> WHAT I DO A LOT OF WHAT I  DO IS MAKING SURE THAT  DEVELOPMENT IN THE RESIDENTIAL  OR COMMERCIAL CONFORMS TO THAT  CODE WE OFF SUCH A PASSIONATE  TAME WE COME FROM.  >> FACT I THINK BETWEEN US WE  HAVE A 100 DAYS OF EXPERIENCE  WE ALL EVERY RIGHT WING TO GO  OUT AND YOU KNOW WE KNOW WHAT  HE'S CUT OUT. WITH A HAPPY TO  TAKE THE CHALLENGE TO DIVISION  ♪ COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT.  >> AND LEADERSHIP IN THE CITY  WE REALLY HAVE TO MAKE GREAT  STRIDES AND PROTECTING WHAT WE  HAVE HERE AND FINDING THAT  BALANCE WITH DEVELOPMENT AND  ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP, I'M  EXCITED TO BE A PART OF THIS  TEAM REALLY.  >> SEEKING AND LOOKING FORWARD  TO THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO  BE ABLE TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.  ♪ >> REX HAS A FULL CLASS TRX  CAMP IS A NEW CLASS FOR ME,  ALTHOUGH I'VE BEEN USING TRS  FOR MANY YEARS WITH PERSONAL  TRAINING THAT I DO OR IN OTHER  STYLE CLASSES THAT I'VE DONE.  BUT AN ACTUAL FOCUS WITH JUST  TRX THIS IS A NEW CLASSROOM. I  LOVE THE CAMARADERIE AT TO SAY  WITH ALL THE PARTICIPANTS. I  THINK WE HAVE A LOT OF FUN.  FIRST OF ALL EVERYONE GETS TO  THE MANS THAT EXPENSE OF BEING  THAT WE HAVE 5 STATIONS SO WE  HAVE OVERFLOW OR MORE THAN 5  PEOPLE. PART OF THE PEOPLE ON  THEM AND THE OTHER PEOPLE ARE  DOING FOR WORK AND THEN WE'LL  SWITCH SO EVERYBODY GETS AN  OPPORTUNITY TO BE AN ALL  STATIONS JUST COME HAVE FUN  WITH IT MAKING YOUR OWN IT'S  NOT SCARY. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO  BE INTIMIDATING AT ALL YOU'RE  USING YOUR BODY WEIGHT USING  THE ANGLES THAT YOU CHOOSE TO  USE ON THE MAN'S AND IT JUST  VARIES WITH HOW YOU'RE  COMFORTABLE AND HOW YOU'RE  FEELING WHEN YOU'RE HERE.  >> STARTED CHARLOTTE COUNTY  UTILITIES AS A METER READER IN  2004. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE  I GOT MY FOOT IN THE DOOR AND  WANT REACH A POINT MY LIFE OR  THINGS ARE MORE STABLE AND I  DECIDED TO LEAVE CHARLOTTE  COUNTY UTILITIES. AND I WENT  AND GOT MY INTERNS LICENSE  THOSE VERY EXCITING DOING THAT  FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME,  BUT AFTER A WHILE I STARTED  THINKING ABOUT THE UTILITY. IT  WAS IN MY HEART AT THIS POINT  I HAD ALMOST 12 JUST 2 MONTHS,  SHY OF 12 YEARS AND AND SO I  REALIZED DURING THAT TIME. MY  HEART WAS IN UTILITIES AND SO  I STARTED LOOKING AROUND AGAIN  I THINK OPENING HERE TO BE  SEEING IN THE SO I APPLIED AND  I GOT IN TYPICALLY I GET HERE  AT 7 IN THE MORNING. I GET MY  LIST YOU KNOW IF I CAN GET TO  THIS THIS IS WHAT I NEED TO DO  AND.  >> I GET IN MY TRUCK IF I NEED  ANY SUPPLIES PARTS TOOLS BASED  OFF OF THE WORK I WAS GIVEN  THAT MORNING, I'LL PICK THAT  UP HERE AT OUR SHOP AND THEN I  HEAD OUT IN THEM. MICHAEL FOR  THE DAYS GET AS MUCH WORK AS  THAT WAS ASSIGNED TO DONE AS  POSSIBLE. AND SOMETIMES THAT  HAPPENS AND OTHER TIMES  THERE'S A LOT OF FIRST  RESPONSE CALLS THAT COME IN MY  FAVORITE PART IS THE  UNIQUENESS NOT KNOWING WHAT  I'M GOING TO BE FACED WITH  EVERY DAY. IT COULD BE  DIFFERENT. IT'S NOT MUNDANE IN  ANY WAY.  >> AND IT'S EXCITING WHEN YOU  GET A CALL AND YOU'RE YOU'RE  ON YOUR WAY YOU DON'T KNOW  WHAT IT IS AND YOU YOU HAVE  THE EXPERIENCE AND THE  KNOW-HOW AND THE BACKING TO  FACE WHATEVER IT'S GOING TO BE  SO I FEEL VERY CONFIDENT IN  FACING THESE CALLS AND I THINK  THAT'S WHAT DIFFERENT PART.  >> PROMISE ALWAYS MANAGES TO  THE NORTH PORT. HERE TODAY,  WITH MARY OF ANY PLAYER  SCHEDULE FOR THE CITY OF NORTH  PORT SOLID WASTE DIVISION  WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT  PICKUPS TODAY. I HAD A  SCHEDULED VOTE PICKUPS WHAT  SHOULD GO OUT AND WHAT SHOULD  NOT GO OUT TO THE CURRENT  WHERE TO PLACE THE ITEM TO  THEM WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU HAVE  MORE THAN WHAT A LOT OF CHIEF  OF THE YEAR PICK UP. SO I KNOW  WE CALL 9, 4, 1, 2, 4, 0, 8,  0, 50 TALK TO OUR CUSTOMER  SERVICE REPS THAT'S CORRECT  HOW TO PICKUP HOW ELSE CAN WE  DO THAT.  >> CAN ALSO GO ON A  WEBSITE NORTH PORT FL DOT  CLICK ON SOLID WASTE AND FILL  OUT A BULK REQUEST FOR  EXCELLENT EXCELLENT SCENARIO  WHEN IN DOUBT.  >> IF A PERSON WANTS TO PLAY  SET OUT WHAT YOU THINK PLACE  OUT WHAT'S RIGHT THING WAS THE  WRONG THING BASICALLY FRANK  ANYTHING THAT DOESN'T FIT IN  THE CONTAINER THAT'S GARBAGE  IS GOING TO GO CURBSIDE GOING  TO STAY OFF DRIVEWAYS WHAT'S  NOT ACCEPT THAT IS TIRES  CHEMICALS.  >> STUFF LIKE THAT YOU CAN PUT  YARD WASTE OUT THAT'S  CONSIDERED BALK BUT JUST MAKE  SURE IT'S SEPARATE FROM  GARBAGE PILE CONWAY SAYS A  SEPARATE PICKUP, SO WHAT  HAPPENS IF I USE ALL MY UP  BOTH VICTIMS ARE A GOOD  QUESTION. SO YOU CAN HAVE MORE  BUT HAVE TO PAY IT CAN BE 1650  A CUBIC YARD AND THAT'S LINKED  TIMES WITH TIME TIGHT DIVIDED  BY 27 IS ONE COULD BE COUNTED  ANY QUESTIONS OF COURSE LET'S  NOT GIVE US A CALL  941-240-8050.  ♪ >> I'M  >> STACEY LOVES OF EMERGENCY  MANAGER FOR CITY WORK AND I'M  GOING DISCUSS FIRST RESPONDERS  AFTER STORM, SO IT MAY TAKE A  WHILE FOR FIRST RESPONDERS TO  GET THE STORM AND DUE TO A  VARIETY OF REASONS. ONE ALL  FIRST RESPONDERS OFF THE  ROADS, THE TROPICAL STORM  FORCE WINDS ARE SUSTAINED FOR  THEIR SAFETY THAT IS A  STANDARD USUALLY COSTS AND  OTHER SO WE WILL HAVE A  BACKLOG CALLS THAT HAVE COME  IN DURING THE STORM THAT  PRIORITIZE BASED AND THE OTHER  RESPONDING TO AS WELL AS THE  CALLS THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON  THEM. ALSO ON THE ROADS MIGHT  BE FLOODED. THERE MIGHT BE  DEBRIS IN THE ROADS ARE  TECHNICAL FIRST IN TEAMS WILL  BE GOING OUT RIGHT AWAY TO  CLEAR THE ROADS ANY HOUSERS A  SKILL  ♪ THAT OUR VEHICLES CAN GET  THROUGH AND RESPOND THE CAUSE.  JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND WHEN  YOU CALL AFTER DISASTER FOR  CITIZENS, WE ARE COMING. WE  ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO US TO  CARE ABOUT OUR RESIDENTS AND  THEIR SAFETY BUT  ♪ IT MAY JUST ALLOWED FOR US TO  GET TO THE ON THAT THE  >> I'M STACEY LOS. YOU KNOW ON  THE EMERGENCY WATER THEY ARE  GOING SEE THAT STORM SURGE  FLOODING NEXT OR SO STORM  SURGE IS STRONG SUSTAINED  WINDS ARE CONSTANTLY GOING  OVER A LONG PERIOD OF TIME  OVER THE GOAL PUSHING  ♪ WATER UP. ONTO WILL NOT  HAPPEN. THERE'S A LOT OF  FLOODING A LOT OF BEACH  EROSION ALONG TEACHER AND THE  HOME. HOWEVER THIS STORM CAN  ALSO PUSH WATER OF THE RIVER  PUSHED THE MYAKKA RIVER FOR  INSTANCE, THE GULF AND THEN  THE WATER COMING DOWNSTREAM  FROM THE RIVER HAS ORDERED TO  DO BECAUSE WATER TO BACK  FLOODING THAT ALONG WITH A LOT  OF RAIN THAT COMES FROM ALSO  CAUSED INCREASE OF WATER  FLOODING INTO  ♪ THE RIVER AND INTO OUR WATER  MANAGEMENT CAUSING FLOODING AS  WELL. PUBLIC WORKS WITH A LOT  OF WORK BEFORE THE STORM TO  MAKE SURE THAT OUR WATER  LEVELS POSSIBLE FOR AND THE  WAR AGAINST STORM SURGE AND  FLOODING IN OUR WATER SYSTEMS  IF YOU WANT ADDITIONAL  INFORMATION ON THAT WE HAVE A  GREAT DEAL ABOUT A LOT FOLKS  ♪ >> HELLO EVERYONE, MY NAME IS  THE VAN PULL US ON THE  AQUATICS MANAGER WITHIN OUR  PARKS RECREATION DEPARTMENT  WERE HERE TODAY AT THE NORTH  PORT AQUATIC CENTER JUST TO  TALK TO EVERYONE ABOUT A BLOW  FOR LIFE PROGRAM WE RECOGNIZE  THAT NATIONALLY UNINTENTIONAL  DROWNING IS THE LEADING CAUSE  OF DEATH FOR CHILDREN UNDER  UNDER THE AGE OF SO WE HAVE AN  AWESOME PROGRAM HERE CALLED  FLOAT FOR LIFE. BLOW FOR LIFE  IS A PROGRAM THAT WE TEACH  THAT STARTS WITH THE  FUNDAMENTALS OF FLOATING  BEFORE WE ACTUALLY LEARNED  SWIMMING. THIS PROGRAM IS  TARGETED FOR THOSE CHILDREN  AGES 6 MONTHS TO 4 AND WHAT WE  WANT THEM TO DO IS WE WANT  THEM TO GET COMFORTABLE IN THE  WATER AND IF THEY ACTUALLY  FALL IN THE WATER OR FIND  THEMSELVES IN A TROUBLED  SITUATION, THEY CAN ROLL OVER  THEIR BACK AND FLOAT WHEN WE  LAUNCHED THIS PROGRAM I WE'RE  THE ONLY ONE IN THE STATE THAT  WAS ACTUALLY TEACHING THIS  MILESTONE PROGRAM SO YOU WANT  TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO OUR  NORTH ROTARY AS WELL WHO  SPONSORED THIS PROGRAM HERE AT  THE AQUATIC CENTER AND  ACTUALLY PAY FOR A TRAINER TO  COME ALL THE WAY FROM NEBRASKA  WHERE THIS PROGRAM ORIGINATES  THERE WE PRACTICE AND WE GO  THROUGH WHAT'S CALLED  MILESTONES HERE SO AS SOON AS  THE KIDS PROGRESSIVE, THE  MILESTONE CAN CONTINUE MOVING  ON THROUGH THEM AND AT THE END  OF IT IT'S A PRETTY AWESOME  PROGRAM WHEN THEY GRADUATE AS  ONE OF THE FINAL THINGS THAT  THEY DO IS THEY JUMP IN FULLY  CLOTHED AND THEY HAVE TO TURN  OVER ROLL OVER ON THE BACK AND  ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO SCREAM FOR  HELP AND POINT IN TIME, IT'S  JUST AN AWESOME SEGMENT  PROGRAM THAT LEADS RIGHT INTO  OUR LEARN TO SWIM PROGRAM SO  THAT WAY WE CAN MAKE  ♪ SURE WE'RE KEEPING OUR KIDS  SAFE IN ON AND AROUND THE  WATER.  >> FRANK THOMAS ALWAYS MANAGER  I AM HERE TODAY WITH NOW  REOPENED DIDDY MARIO TELL  PEOPLE HERE HAVE ONLY BEEN  DOING THIS JOB, I'VE BEEN HERE  5 YES 5 YEARS EXCELLENT  EXCELLENT SO TELL PEOPLE WHAT  IT ENTAILS WHAT YOU DO. THE  PLAN IS SCHEDULED FOR SOLID  WASTE THE CITY I GO OUT AND  AGREE THE NEW RESIDENTS  TONIGHT, EDUCATE THEM ON  RECYCLE EXCELLENT SOUNDS  INTERESTING VERY AREA WHEN HE  FOUND INSIDE THE RECYCLING  BINS SHOULDN'T BE THERE SO  LET'S TRY TO TELL THE PEOPLE  HOW TO RECYCLE  ♪ MOST COMMON THING I FIND  FRANCIS PLASTIC BAGS.  >> SO START TO NOT RECYCLABLE  I FIND JUST POSTING THE  CONTAINER FOR THE RECYCLE WITH  HIM AND MISSION IS DECIDEDLY  COUNTRY THAT'S RIGHT INSIDE  THE  ♪ BLUE CONTAINERS. AND THEY  SHOULD BE YOU TAKEN BACK TO  THE GROCERY STORE OR TOSS IN  THE TRASH OR DO SEE A LOT OF  RECYCLING INSIDE THE  CONTAINERS I COME ACROSS A LOT  WANT TO DO THAT SO.  >> OKAY, SO IF YOU HAVE ANY  QUESTIONS YOU CAN ALWAYS LOOK  AT OUR WEBSITE WW DOT NORTH  PORT FLORIDA DOT GOV SLASH  SOLID WASTE.  ♪ >> I'M STACEY LOSO I'M THE  EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT  COORDINATOR FOR THE CITY  OF NORTH PORT AND WE'RE GOING  TO TALK ABOUT WHY IT'S  IMPORTANT TO HAVE A GO KIT AND  WHAT SHOULD GO INSIDE OF IT,  IT'S IMPORTANT HAVE A GO BAG  BECAUSE IF YOU WAIT LAST  MINUTE TO PACK THEY'RE  DEFINITELY GOING TO BE ITEMS  THAT YOU'RE GOING TO FORGET  AND THE SCRAMBLE TO GET  EVERYTHING TOGETHER SO IT'S  IMPORTANT TO YOUR DOCUMENTS  SUCH AS ID'S INSURANCE  PAPERWORK TITLES FOR YOUR HOME  AND YOUR VEHICLES AND YOUR  BOATS JUST SO THAT IF YOUR  HOME DOES FLOOD OR ALL THOSE  DOCUMENTS ARE WITH YOU AND  THEY'RE SAFE BECAUSE YOU DON'T  WANT TO END UP LOSING THOSE  AND HAVING TO TRY TO REPLACE  THOSE LATER ON ALSO IN YOUR GO  BAG THAT YOU SHOULD THINK  ABOUT WHAT MEDICATIONS YOU  MIGHT NEED TO HAVE AHEAD OF  TIME FOR UNDER A STATE OF  EMERGENCY YOU ARE ABLE TO  REFILL YOUR PRESCRIPTIONS  AHEAD OF TIME EVEN IF THEY'RE  NOT DO YET. SO IT'S IMPORTANT  TO DO THAT ALSO IN YOUR GO  BAGS YOU SHOULD HAVE  NON-PERISHABLE FOOD FLASHLIGHT  BATTERIES, A RADIO THAT IS  BATTERY POWERED AND EXTRA  BATTERIES SHOULD ALL POWER GO  OUT WE WILL BE ABLE TO  BROADCAST ON 97.5 FM ANY  EMERGENCY INFORMATION SO BE  SURE TO HAVE  ♪ BATTERY POWERED RADIO READY IN  TUNED IN TO 97 POINT.  >> I'M STACEY LOS SALE AND THE  EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT  COORDINATOR FOR THE CITY  OF NORTH PORT AND I'M GOING TO  TELL YOU THE DIFFERENCE  BETWEEN FLOOD ZONES AND  EVACUATION ZONES ARE IN  SARASOTA COUNTY. WE CALL THEM  EVACUATION LEVELS. SO FLOOD  ZONES ARE GENERATED BY FEMA  AND THEY'RE USED TO DETERMINE  THE LIKELIHOOD THAT YOU'LL  FLOOD AND THEY'RE USED TO  DETERMINE IF YOU NEED FLOOD  INSURANCE IF YOU HAVE A  MORTGAGE ON YOUR HOME. NOW THE  EVACUATION ZONES ARE BASED ON  STORM SURGE DATA THAT COMES  FROM THE NATIONAL HURRICANE  CENTER. AND THEY USE  TOPOGRAPHY AS WELL AS  HURRICANE VULNERABILITY FOR  STORM SURGE FOR THE AREA AND  WE USE THOSE TO DETERMINE WHO  NEEDS TO EVACUATE DURING A  STORM SO IT'S IMPORTANT  UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A  DIFFERENCE IF YOU'RE  INTERESTED IN FINDING OUT WHAT  EVACUATION ZONE YOU ARE AND  WHICH WE HIGHLY RECOMMEND YOU  DO. YOU CAN USE YOUR SEARCH  ENGINE OF CHOICE. AND TYPE  SARASOTA COUNTY KNOW YOUR  LEVEL AND THAT WILL TAKE YOU  TO THE SARASOTA COUNTY  GOVERNMENT WEBSITE.  >> WATER IN US WELL THAT'S  KIND OF THE DITCH. MY YOUR  HOUSE IS NOT FLOODING.  ♪ WITHIN US AFTER STORM EVENT  WATER SHOULD  ♪ BE IN THAT SWELL TO 72 HOURS  AFTER THE STORM. THAT ALLOWS  THE WATER BUILT TO GET THE  STUFF THAT CAME OUT FOR ROOM  AND THE ROAD OUT OF THE WATER  SO THAT WHEN REACHES THE  HABITAT IT NO LONGER HAS THOSE  CONTAMINANTS  ♪ IT ALSO PROVIDES OPPORTUNITY  TO SLOW DOWN WATERS SO THAT  THE WATER DOESN'T GO SO FAST  THAT ERODES ROADWAYS ANY OTHER  INFRASTRUCTURE, SO WHEN YOU  SEE WATER IN ONLY YOU KNOW UP  TO  ♪ 72 HOURS SINCE THE LAST RAIN  THAT IS NOT LETTING THAT IS  DOING ITS JOB.  >> HELLO MY NAME'S A VAN FULL  PRODUCTS FACILITY MANAGER WITH  THE CITY OF NORTH PORT AND  TODAY WE'RE GOING TO BE  TALKING WITH YOU GUYS ABOUT  OUR FREE SWIM EVALUATION. IT'S  IMPORTANT THAT WE DO NEED  EVALUATIONS SO KIDS  REGISTERING FOR SWIM PROGRAMS  THEY GET PLACED IN THE RIGHT  CLASS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT  MORE DOING THAT'S SOMETHING  YOU ATION IS EVERY SWIM LEVEL  HAS WHAT'S CALLED EXIT SKILL  ASSESSMENTS. SO WHAT WE DO IS  WE HAVE YOUR CHILD GET IN THE  WATER AND WILL GO THROUGH A  SERIES OF DIFFERENT MOVEMENTS  CAN YOU GO INTO THE WATER I  CAN YOU SHOW US YOUR PHONE  CALL CAN YOU SHOW US BACK ALL  SHOWS ELEMENTARY BACK  DIFFERENT STROKES WITHIN AND  WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE  TRYING TO SEE. YOUR CHILD TEST  TO BEFORE IT BECOMES A  CHALLENGE FOR THEM AT THAT  POINT WHAT WE ASSESS THAT THAT  WILL LET YOU KNOW AND YOU CAN  GO AHEAD AND SIGN YOUR CHILD  UP FOR THAT APPROPRIATE LEVEL  THERE. IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE  HAVE THESE SO THAT WAY WHEN  WE'RE TEACHING A LEVEL ONE WE  DON'T HAVE KIDS THAT SHOULD  POTENTIALLY A LEVEL 2 AND  LEVEL ONE CLASS BECAUSE  THEY'RE NOT LEARNING THE  APPROPRIATE SKILLS THAT THEY  NEEDED THAT POINT IN TIME  RIGHT NOW WHEN WE'RE IN FULL  SUMMER WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE  COME BETWEEN 8.10 DEDUCED FROM  A VALUATION JUST AS YOU CAN  HEAR THE WATER SPLASHING IN  THE BACKGROUND SLIDE.  EVERYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT ANY  DAY OF THE THAT OPEN YOU CAN  COME IN AT ANY POINT IN TIME  ENOUGH FOR SOME EVALUATIONS WE  ALWAYS HAVE A CERTIFIED SO  MUCH DOCTOR ON SITE THAT HAVE  YOUR CHILD TAKE A SWIM  ASSESSMENT.  ♪ >> I'M STACEY LASALLE AND THE  EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT  COORDINATOR FOR THE CITY  OF NORTH PORT AND I'M GOING TO  BE TALKING ABOUT HAVING AN  EVACUATION PLAN IT'S A POINT  HAVE AN EVACUATION PLAN AHEAD  OF TIME AND IT'S VERY  IMPORTANT TO WRITE IT DOWN  BECAUSE THAT WAY YOU HAVE IT  SOMEWHERE PRESENT FOR  EVERYBODY IN YOUR FAMILY CAN  SEE IT AND KEEP IT FRESH IN  THEIR MINDS AND YOU WANT TO  ALSO SHARE IT WITH PEOPLE IN  YOUR FAMILY OR YOUR NEIGHBORS  SO THAT THEY KNOW WHAT YOUR  PLANS ARE AHEAD OF TIME AND  HOW TO GET A HOLD OF YOUR WAY  TO LOOK FOR YOU AFTER A  DISASTER FOR YOUR EVACUATION  YOU SHOULD HAVE MULTIPLE  ROUTES TO GET TO LOCATION.  YOU'RE PLANNING TO GO TO JUST  BECAUSE TRAFFIC WAS TRAFFIC ON  75 MIGHT BE GRIDLOCKED THERE  COULD BE SOME VERY GOOD BACK  ROADS TO GET TO WHERE YOU'RE  GOING THAT COULD GET YOU THERE  MORE QUICKLY WITHOUT BEING  STUCK IN TRAFFIC WHEN YOU'RE  MAKING EVACUATION PLAN. WE  USUALLY TELL YOU 4 DIFFERENT  THINGS YOU SHOULD STAY HOME IF  YOU ARE NOT IN HIS OWN THAT'S  BEING EVACUATED AND IF YOUR  HOME IS BUILT TO WITHSTAND THE  FORECASTED STORM IF YOU CAN  STAY HOME. AND YOU EVACUATE  YOUR NEXT OPTION SHOULD BE TO  GO TO A FRIEND OUR FAMILY'S  HOME THAT IS OUTSIDE OF THE  EVACUATION AREA AND IT IS  STRUCTURALLY SOUND TO US AND  THE STORM 3RD OPTION WOULD BE  GO TO A HOTEL. THEY'RE MUCH  MORE COMFORTABLE THAN I BACK  AWAY SHUNS CENTER'S 4TH OPTION  WOULD BE TO GO TO ONE OF OUR  EVACUATION CENTER SARASOTA  COUNTY HAS FALLEN BACK AWAY  SHUNS CENTER'S. THOSE CAN BE  FOUND ON  ♪ THEIR WEBSITE.  >> WHY DO WE FLOOD. DURING  SIGNIFICANT RAIN EVENTS PORT  NEARLY ALWAYS FLOODS IN  CERTAIN AREAS OF THE CITY.  THIS IS THANKS TO THE LOCALLY  NAMED MYAKKA HACHI CREEK ALSO  KNOWN AS THE BIG SLEW  WATERSHED.  >> THE 195 SQUARE MILE  DRAINAGE AREA FLOWS THROUGH  DESOTO MANATEE AND SARASOTA  COUNTIES THEN THROUGH OUR CITY  TO EXIT AT CHARLOTTE HARBOR.  AS THE CITY OF NORTH PORT IS  LOCATED AT THE LOW END OF THE  BIG SLEW WATERSHED DRAINAGE  SYSTEM. THE CITY'S CURRENT  FLOODING AND WATER QUALITY  CONDITIONS ARE ATTRIBUTED NOT  ONLY TO THE CITY'S GROWTH BUT  ALSO TO UPSTREAM RUNOFF AND  THE DESOTO MANATEE AND  SARASOTA COUNTY PORTIONS OF  THE BIG SLOW. DURING  SIGNIFICANT RAIN EVENTS  PONDING CAN ALSO OCCUR PONDING  OCCURS AND LOW-LYING AREAS  THAT ARE CHARACTERIZED BY  POORLY DRAINED OR SUPER  SATURATED SOILS WITH  BACK-TO-BACK RAINFALL EVENTS  THE GROUND IS TOTALLY  SATURATED WHICH INCREASES THE  RUNOFF DURING A STORM. THE  CITY WORKS HARD TO MAINTAIN  ITS STORMWATER CONVEYANCE  SYSTEM WHICH IS COMPRISED OF  ROADSIDE SWALES DRAINING INTO  79 MILES OF NAMED WATERWAYS.  >> AND 132 MILES OF RETENTION  DITCHES THAT INTERCONNECT WITH  EACH OTHER AND WITH THE MYAKKA  HACHI CREEK. THERE ARE 64  WATER CONTROL STRUCTURES OF  WHICH 23 ARE GATED WATER  CONTROL STRUCTURES 5 ARE GATED  DROP STRUCTURES, 28 ARE FIXED.  WE'RE STRUCTURES AND 8 ARE  DROPPED STRUCTURES. THE  CONTROL ELEVATIONS OF THESE  STRUCTURES ARE DESIGNED SO  THAT WATER IS RETAINED IN THE  WATERWAYS AND A STEP-DOWN  ELEVATION SYSTEM  CONFIGURATION.  >> THIS MEANS THE WATER LEVELS  IN THE WATERWAY SEGMENTS  BETWEEN STRUCTURES  PROGRESSIVELY DECREASES IN  ELEVATION FROM NORTH TO SOUTH  AND FROM EAST TO WEST. THIS  SYSTEM CONFIGURATION ALLOWS  BOTH RETENTION OF STORM WATER  RUNOFF FOR WATER QUALITY  TREATMENT AND STORAGE FOR  POTABLE WATER USE IN  PREPARATION FOR A STORM, THE  GATES ARE OPENED AS NEEDED TO  CONVEY A FLOOD WATERS.  >> THE CITY HAS AN ONGOING  PROGRAM TO INSPECT AND REPLACE  OLD CORRODED STRUCTURES SINCE  2006 13 OF THE HIGH PRIORITIES  STRUCTURES HAVE BEEN REPLACED  OR REHABILITATED THE CITY ALSO  HAS A PROGRAM TO CLEAR THE  DITCHES OF SEDIMENT DEPOSITS  THAT HAVE ACCUMULATED OVER  TIME AND CLEAR FALLEN TREES  AND DEBRIS IN THE MYAKKA HACHI  CREEK. THIS ALSO HELPS RESTORE  THE FLOW CAPACITY OF THE  WATERWAYS.  >> MY STORY SHORT NORTH PORT  IS PRONE TO FLOODING, BUT THE  CITY WORKS HARD TO MAINTAIN  CAN VANCE CHANNELS WATER  CONTROL STRUCTURES AND  PROCEDURES PUT IN PLACE TO  LESSEN THE IMPACT. WHEN THERE  IS A HURRICANE OR SIGNIFICANT  RAIN EVENT. THE CITY GETS INTO  RESPONSE IN RECOVERY MODE  QUICKLY AFTER PLEASE STAY SAFE  OUT THERE.  >> OH MY  ♪ >> EVERYONE MY NAME IS MARIO  OF NVIDIA I AM THE PLAN OR  SCHEDULE OR FOR THE CITY  OF NORTH PORT SOLID WASTE A  GOOD INTO THIS POSITION. FIRST  I WAS RECYCLED DRIVER FOR 5  YEARS FOR THE AND THEN I  BECAME THE PLAN A SCHEDULE  AFTER TAKING AN INTEREST  EDUCATING RESIDENTS ON HOW TO  RECYCLE PROPERLY MY POSITION  MY DAY-TO-DAY USUALLY I START  OUT BY VISITING THE NEW  RESIDENTS THAT SCHEDULE  GARBAGE AND RECYCLING  CONTAINERS TO BE DELIVERED AND  I WILL GO SEE THEM AND EDUCATE  THEM ON A SOLID WASTE  GUIDELINES MORE LESS MORE  FOCUSED RECYCLE PART OF AFTER  THAT I WILL DRIVE AROUND THE  CITY AND I ACTUALLY EXPECT  CYCLE CONTAINERS MANUALLY.  ♪ FOR CONTAMINATION. AND THEN I  WILL TAKE CALLS FROM DRIVERS  IF THERE'S ANY ISSUES  ♪ WITHOUT REPEAT. GARBAGE IN  RECYCLE AND I WILL GO EDUCATE  THE WHAT I LOVE MOST ABOUT THE  NORFORK IS THERE ARE FROM ALL  OVER THE WORLD.  ♪ I GET TO LEARN ABOUT THE SOLID  WASTE GUIDELINES WHEN THEY  COME FROM AS WELL AS EDUCATE  THEM  ♪ ON THE CITY NORTH PORT'S  ALWAYS GUIDELINES HOW TO  RECYCLE PROPERLY.  >> BELIEVE THAT THE NATURAL  RESOURCES DEPARTMENT WILL BE  INTEGRAL PART FOR THE CITY'S  GROWTH IS WE WANT TO ACHIEVE A  MORE BALANCED APPROACH OF  DEVELOPMENT IN THE FUTURE WHAT  WE REALLY WANT TO DO IS SEE  SENSIBLE DEVELOPMENT  SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT.  >> AND ABOUT A MONTH THAT IN  LYON WAIVES WHAT WE DO HAVE  ALREADY HAVE HASTENED WE WANT  TO PRESERVE AS MUCH AS WE CAN  OF NATURAL RESOURCES, SO THAT  IS STILL PLACE FULL ON EXTRA  ZAW ALL MIKE WRITING BAD  SADDLE THE OF THE SPECIES THAT  AND SURVIVED IT ALL HABITAT  THAT ROLE SYSTEMS. BIG PART  OF.  >> THE WAYS YOU CALL SYSTEMS  FUNCTION IMPORTANT PARTS FOR  OUR COMMUNITY, OUR LIST THE  SPECIES THEY STABILIZE THE  SOIL THEY PROVIDE. SO MANY  DIFFERENT BENEFITS, INCLUDING  SHADE LIMITING THE HEAT ISLAND  EFFECTS WITHIN OUR CITY  ♪ PROVIDING HABITAT PROVIDING  SHELTER FOR THE SPECIES. AND  JUST TO ALSO FOR OUR IS THAT  HE CAN JOIN MINCE WELL AS AN A  LOT OF WHAT I DO IS.  >> MAKING SURE THAT  DEVELOPMENT CONFORMS TO THE  TREE PROTECTION CODE SO ONE  THING WE ALREADY HAVE IN PLACE  SINCE APRIL OF 2022. IS A TREE  PROTECTION CODE WHICH IS QUITE  ROBUST AND THE CITY OF NORTH  PORT THAT WAS ADOPTED BY  COMMISSION AND THE CITY ALSO A  LOT OF COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT  AND SO WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO  HAVE THE TREE PROTECTION CODE  SO.  >> WHAT I DO A LOT OF WHAT I  DO IS MAKING SURE THAT  DEVELOPMENT IN THE RESIDENTIAL  OR COMMERCIAL CONFORMS TO THAT  CODE WE OFF SUCH A PASSIONATE  TAME WE COME FROM.  >> FACT I THINK BETWEEN US WE  HAVE A 100 DAYS OF EXPERIENCE  WE ALL EVERY RIGHT WING TO GO  OUT AND YOU KNOW WE KNOW WHAT  HE'S CUT OUT. WITH A HAPPY TO  ♪ TAKE THE CHALLENGE TO DIVISION  COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT.  >> AND LEADERSHIP IN THE CITY  WE REALLY HAVE TO MAKE GREAT  STRIDES AND PROTECTING WHAT WE  HAVE HERE AND FINDING THAT  BALANCE WITH DEVELOPMENT AND  ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP, I'M  EXCITED TO BE A PART OF THIS  TEAM REALLY.  >> SEEKING AND LOOKING FORWARD  TO THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO  BE ABLE TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.  ♪ >> REX HAS A FULL CLASS TRX  CAMP IS A NEW CLASS FOR ME,  ALTHOUGH I'VE BEEN USING TRS  FOR MANY YEARS WITH PERSONAL  TRAINING THAT I DO OR IN OTHER  STYLE CLASSES THAT I'VE DONE.  BUT AN ACTUAL FOCUS WITH JUST  TRX THIS IS A NEW CLASSROOM. I  LOVE THE CAMARADERIE AT TO SAY  WITH ALL THE PARTICIPANTS. I  THINK WE HAVE A LOT OF FUN.  FIRST OF ALL EVERYONE GETS TO  THE MANS THAT EXPENSE OF BEING  THAT WE HAVE 5 STATIONS SO WE  HAVE OVERFLOW OR MORE THAN 5  PEOPLE. PART OF THE PEOPLE ON  THEM AND THE OTHER PEOPLE ARE  DOING FOR WORK AND THEN WE'LL  SWITCH SO EVERYBODY GETS AN  OPPORTUNITY TO BE AN ALL  STATIONS JUST COME HAVE FUN  WITH IT MAKING YOUR OWN IT'S  NOT SCARY. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO  BE INTIMIDATING AT ALL YOU'RE  USING YOUR BODY WEIGHT USING  THE ANGLES THAT YOU CHOOSE TO  USE ON THE MAN'S AND IT JUST  VARIES WITH HOW YOU'RE  COMFORTABLE AND HOW YOU'RE  FEELING WHEN YOU'RE HERE.  >> STARTED CHARLOTTE COUNTY  UTILITIES AS A METER READER IN  2004. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE  I GOT MY FOOT IN THE DOOR AND  WANT REACH A POINT MY LIFE OR  THINGS ARE MORE STABLE AND I  DECIDED TO LEAVE CHARLOTTE  COUNTY UTILITIES. AND I WENT  AND GOT MY INTERNS LICENSE  THOSE VERY EXCITING DOING THAT  FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME,  BUT AFTER A WHILE I STARTED  THINKING ABOUT THE UTILITY. IT  WAS IN MY HEART AT THIS POINT  I ALMOST 12 JUST 2 MONTHS, SHY  OF 12 YEARS AND AND SO I  REALIZED DURING THAT TIME. MY  HEART WAS IN UTILITIES AND SO  I STARTED LOOKING AROUND AGAIN  I THINK AND OPENING HERE TO BE  SEEING IN THE SO I APPLIED AND  I GOT IN TYPICALLY I GET HERE  AT 7 IN THE MORNING. I GET MY  LIST YOU KNOW IF I CAN GET TO  THIS THIS IS WHAT I NEED TO DO  AND.  >> I GET IN MY TRUCK IF I NEED  ANY SUPPLIES PARTS TOOLS BASED  OFF OF THE WORK I WAS GIVEN  THAT MORNING, I'LL PICK THAT  UP HERE AT OUR SHOP AND THEN I  HEAD OUT IN THEM. MICHAEL FOR  THE DAYS GET AS MUCH WORK AS  THAT WAS ASSIGNED TO DONE AS  POSSIBLE. AND SOMETIMES THAT  HAPPENS AND OTHER TIMES  THERE'S A LOT OF FIRST  RESPONSE CALLS THAT COME IN MY  FAVORITE PART IS THE  UNIQUENESS NOT KNOWING WHAT  I'M GOING TO BE FACED WITH  EVERY DAY. IT COULD BE  DIFFERENT. IT'S NOT MUNDANE IN  ANY WAY.  >> AND IT'S EXCITING WHEN YOU  GET A CALL AND YOU'RE YOU'RE  ON YOUR WAY YOU DON'T KNOW  WHAT IT IS AND YOU YOU HAVE  THE EXPERIENCE AND THE  KNOW-HOW AND THE BACKING TO  FACE WHATEVER IT'S GOING TO BE  SO I FEEL VERY CONFIDENT IN  FACING THESE CALLS AND I THINK  THAT'S WHAT DIFFERENT PART.  >> PROMISE ALWAYS MANAGES TO  THE NORTH PORT. HERE TODAY,  WITH MARY OF ANY PLAYER  SCHEDULE FOR THE CITY OF NORTH  PORT SOLID WASTE DIVISION  WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT  PICKUPS TODAY. I HAD A  SCHEDULED VOTE PICKUPS WHAT  SHOULD GO OUT AND WHAT SHOULD  NOT GO OUT TO THE CURRENT  WHERE TO PLACE THE ITEM TO  THEM WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU HAVE  MORE THAN WHAT A LOT OF CHIEF  OF THE YEAR PICK UP. SO I KNOW  WE CALL 9, 4, 1, 2, 4, 0, 8,  0, 50 TALK TO OUR CUSTOMER  SERVICE REPS THAT'S CORRECT  HOW TO PICKUP HOW ELSE CAN WE  DO THAT.  >> CAN ALSO GO ON A  WEBSITE NORTH PORT FL DOT  CLICK ON SOLID WASTE AND FILL  OUT A BULK REQUEST FOR  EXCELLENT EXCELLENT SCENARIO  WHEN IN DOUBT.  >> IF A PERSON WANTS TO PLAY  SET OUT WHAT YOU THINK PLACE  OUT WHAT'S RIGHT THING WAS THE  WRONG THING BASICALLY FRANK  ANYTHING THAT DOESN'T FIT IN  THE CONTAINER THAT'S GARBAGE  IS GOING TO GO CURBSIDE GOING  TO STAY OFF DRIVEWAYS WHAT'S  NOT ACCEPT THAT IS TIRES  CHEMICALS.  >> STUFF LIKE THAT YOU CAN PUT  YARD WASTE OUT THAT'S  CONSIDERED BALK BUT JUST MAKE  SURE IT'S SEPARATE FROM  GARBAGE PILE CONWAY SAYS A  SEPARATE PICKUP, SO WHAT  HAPPENS IF I USE ALL MY UP  BOTH VICTIMS ARE A GOOD  QUESTION. SO YOU CAN HAVE MORE  BUT HAVE TO PAY IT CAN BE 1650  A CUBIC YARD AND THAT'S LINKED  TIMES WITH TIME TIGHT DIVIDED  BY 27 IS ONE COULD BE COUNTED  ANY QUESTIONS OF COURSE LET'S  NOT GIVE US A CALL  941-240-8050.  ♪ >> I'M STACEY LOVES OF  EMERGENCY MANAGER FOR CITY  WORK AND I'M GOING DISCUSS  FIRST RESPONDERS AFTER STORM,  SO IT MAY TAKE A WHILE FOR  FIRST RESPONDERS TO GET THE  STORM AND DUE TO A VARIETY OF  REASONS. ONE ALL FIRST  RESPONDERS OFF THE ROADS, THE  TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS ARE  SUSTAINED FOR THEIR SAFETY  THAT IS A STANDARD USUALLY  COSTS AND OTHER SO WE WILL  HAVE A BACKLOG CALLS THAT HAVE  COME IN DURING THE STORM THAT  PRIORITIZE BASED AND THE OTHER  RESPONDING TO AS WELL AS THE  CALLS THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON  THEM. ALSO ON THE ROADS MIGHT  BE FLOODED. THERE MIGHT BE  DEBRIS IN THE ROADS ARE  TECHNICAL FIRST IN TEAMS WILL  BE GOING OUT RIGHT AWAY TO  CLEAR THE ROADS ANY HOUSERS A  SKILL  ♪ THAT OUR VEHICLES CAN GET  THROUGH AND RESPOND THE CAUSE.  JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND WHEN  YOU CALL AFTER DISASTER FOR  CITIZENS, WE ARE COMING. WE  ARE VERY IMPORTANT AS WE CARE  ABOUT OUR RESIDENTS AND THEIR  SAFETY BUT IT MAY JUST ALLOWED  FOR US TO GET TO THE ON LIST  OF THE  ♪ >> I'M STACEY LOS. YOU KNOW ON  THE EMERGENCY WATER THEY ARE  GOING SEE STORM SURGE FLOODING  NEXT OR SO STORM SURGE IS  STRONG SUSTAINED WINDS ARE  CONSTANTLY GOING OVER A LONG  PERIOD OF TIME OVER THE GOAL  PUSHING WATER UP ONTO WILL NOT  HAPPEN. THERE'S A LOT OF  FLOODING A LOT OF BEACH  EROSION ALONG TEACHER AND THE  HOME. HOWEVER THIS STORM CAN  ALSO PUSH WATER OF THE RIVER  PUSHED THE MYAKKA RIVER FOR  INSTANCE, THE GULF AND THEN  THE WATER COMING DOWNSTREAM  FROM THE RIVER HAS ORDERED TO  DO BECAUSE WATER TO BACK  FLOODING THAT ALONG WITH A LOT  OF RAIN THAT COMES FROM ALSO  CAUSED INCREASE OF WATER  FLOODING INTO THE RIVER AND  INTO OUR WATER MANAGEMENT  CAUSING FLOODING  ♪ AS WELL. PUBLIC WORKS WITH A  LOT OF WORK BEFORE THE STORM  TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR WATER  LEVELS POSSIBLE FOR AND THE  WAR AGAINST STORM SURGE AND  FLOODING IN OUR WATER SYSTEMS  IF YOU WANT ADDITIONAL  INFORMATION ON THAT WE HAVE A  GREAT DEAL ABOUT A LOT FOLKS  ♪ >> HELLO EVERYONE, MY NAME IS  THE VAN PULL US ON THE  AQUATICS MANAGER WITHIN OUR  PARKS RECREATION DEPARTMENT  WERE HERE TODAY AT THE NORTH  PORT AQUATIC CENTER JUST TO  TALK TO EVERYONE ABOUT A BLOW  FOR LIFE PROGRAM WE RECOGNIZE  THAT NATIONALLY UNINTENTIONAL  DROWNING IS THE LEADING CAUSE  OF DEATH FOR CHILDREN THAT ARE  UNDER THE AGE OF SO WE HAVE AN  AWESOME PROGRAM HERE CALLED  FLOAT FOR LIFE. BLOW FOR LIFE  IS A PROGRAM THAT WE TEACH  THAT STARTS WITH THE  FUNDAMENTALS OF FLOATING  BEFORE WE ACTUALLY LEARNED  SWIMMING. THIS PROGRAM IS  TARGETED FOR THOSE CHILDREN  AGES 6 MONTHS TO 4 AND WHAT WE  WANT THEM TO DO IS WE WANT  THEM TO GET COMFORTABLE IN THE  WATER AND IF THEY ACTUALLY  FALL IN THE WATER OR FIND  THEMSELVES IN A TROUBLED  SITUATION, THEY CAN ROLL OVER  THEIR BACK AND FLOAT WHEN WE  LAUNCHED THIS PROGRAM I WE'RE  THE ONLY ONE IN THE STATE THAT  WAS ACTUALLY TEACHING THIS  MILESTONE PROGRAM SO YOU WANT  TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO OUR  NORTH ROTARY AS WELL WHO  SPONSORED THIS PROGRAM HERE AT  THE AQUATIC CENTER AND  ACTUALLY PAY FOR A TRAINER TO  COME ALL THE WAY FROM NEBRASKA  WHERE THIS PROGRAM ORIGINATES  THERE WE PRACTICE AND WE GO  THROUGH WHAT'S CALLED  MILESTONES HERE SO AS SOON AS  THE KIDS PROGRESSIVE, THE  MILESTONE CAN CONTINUE MOVING  ON THROUGH THEM AND AT THE END  OF IT IT'S A PRETTY AWESOME  PROGRAM WHEN THEY GRADUATE AS  ONE OF THE FINAL THINGS THAT  THEY DO IS THEY JUMP IN FULLY  CLOTHED AND THEY HAVE TO TURN  OVER ROLL OVER ON THEIR BACK  AND ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO SCREAM  FOR HELP AND POINT IN TIME,  IT'S JUST AN AWESOME SEGMENT  PROGRAM THAT LEADS RIGHT INTO  OUR LEARN TO SWIM PROGRAM SO  THAT WAY WE CAN MAKE SURE  WE'RE KEEPING OUR KIDS SAFE IN  ON AND AROUND THE WATER.  >> FRANK THOMAS ALWAYS MANAGER  I AM HERE TODAY WITH NOW  REOPENED DIDDY MARIO TELL  PEOPLE HERE HAVE ONLY BEEN  DOING THIS JOB, I'VE BEEN HERE  5 YES 5 YEARS EXCELLENT  EXCELLENT SO TELL PEOPLE WHAT  IT ENTAILS WHAT YOU DO. THE  PLAN IS SCHEDULED FOR SOLID  WASTE THE CITY I GO OUT AND  AGREE THE NEW RESIDENTS  TONIGHT, EDUCATE THEM ON  RECYCLE EXCELLENT SOUNDS  INTERESTING VERY AREA WHEN HE  FOUND INSIDE THE RECYCLING  BINS SHOULDN'T BE THERE SO  LET'S TRY TO TELL THE PEOPLE  HOW TO RECYCLE  ♪ MOST COMMON THING I FIND  FRANCIS PLASTIC BAGS.  >> SO START TO NOT RECYCLABLE  I FIND JUST POSTING THE  CONTAINER FOR THE RECYCLE WITH  HIM  ♪ SHOULD SIDE COUNTRY THAT'S  RIGHT INSIDE THE BLUE  CONTAINERS. AND THEY SHOULD BE  YOU TAKEN BACK TO THE GROCERY  STORE OR TOSS IN THE TRASH  GOOD EVENING TODAY IS TUESDAY  23RD 2024 IT IS 06:00PM AND WE  ARE IN THE CITY CHAMBERS AND I  ALL THE CITY COMMISSION  REGULAR MEETING TO ORDER.  >> THIS A HYBRID MEETING.  >> THIS MEETING HAS BEEN  PROPERLY NOTICED AND WILL BE  CONDUCTED AS A HYBRID MEETING  REQUIRING THE USE OF  COMMUNICATIONS MEDIA  TECHNOLOGY, A PHYSICAL QUORUM  OF VOTING MEMBERS IS PRESENT  IN CITY COMMISSION CHAMBERS. A  HYBRID MEETING ALLOWS VOTING  MEMBERS TO ATTEND AND  PARTICIPATE WITHOUT BEING  PHYSICALLY PRESENT IN THE ROOM  WHERE FORM IS CONVENIENT. CALL  PRESENT ARE AND MYSELF. MAYOR  WHITE COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL  COMMISSIONER STOKES AND  COMMISSIONER LANGDON. AND I  THINK I HEAR COMMISSIONER AND  RICH TO WINDS. READY TO MAY  ALL RIGHT GO RIGHT AHEAD.  >> HIGH AS.  >> HAS AUTHORIZED BY THE CITY  COMMISSION POLICY NUMBER 2021  DASH I AM ATTENDING THE HIGH  ROAD. THE MEETING  COMMUNICATIONS MEDIA  TECHNOLOGIES. I AM  EXPERIENCING A MEDICAL  CONDITION, INCLUDING MANY  DISABILITIES PREVENTING ME  FROM ATTENDING IN PERSON AT  THIS TIME, THANK YOU.  >> THANK YOU. I'M LOOKING FOR  A MOTION TO APPROVE THE USE OF  CMT FOR THIS HYBRID MEETING SO  MOVED THAT POINT. ALL RIGHT.  WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY VICE  MAYOR STOKES AND SECONDED BY  COMMISSIONER LANGDON TO  APPROVE THE USE OF CMT FOR  THIS HYBRID MEETING. AND WE'RE  GOING TO DO A VOICE VOTE. I  EXPERIENCE. YES, THEY ARE IZZY  MISSION OR LIKE THAT. YES. OH  YES. AND COMMISSIONER  HEMORRHAGE.  >> URGES THE U.S. ALL RIGHT SO  THAT JUST PASSED 5 TO 0.  >> ALSO PRESENT WE HAVE CITY  MANAGER FLETCHER CITY ATTORNEY  SLAYTON CITY CLERK ABOUT  SPORTS SPECIALIST WE HAVE.  DEPUTY FIRE CHIEF EARLY THAT  THEY'RE OK AND THEN WE ALSO  HAVE CAPTAIN GREGORY DO I HAVE  THAT RIGHT. YES, OKAY I WAS  TOLD. AND WE MOVE ON TO THE  PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND I  WILL ASK ROBIN AND THIS SENT  TO BE HONEST. I'M A  >> UNITED STATES AMERICA AND 4  WHICH STANDS ONE NATION UNDER  GOD, ALL.  >> THANK I'M LOOKING FOR  APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA. SO  BACK IN.  >> WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE  THE AGENDA BY VICE MAYOR  STOKES SECONDED BY  COMMISSIONER LANGDON.  >> WE'RE GOING TO DO A VOICE  ON THAT ICE I AM DEAR WHITE IS  THE COMMISSIONER LANGDON YES,  MCDOWELL, YES, AND  COMMISSIONER AVERAGE. YES ALL  RIGHT SO WE APPROVE THE AGENDA  TO 0. PUBLIC COMMENT.  >> ABOUT THE ONLY AND THEY'RE  ALL BY ROBINSON BUT AND JOSH  SMITH.  GOOD EVENING.  >> EVERYBODY ON TOPIC LLOYD  CASE ALD WHY CASE CASE THE END  IDENTITIES. AND I'M NOT A  CRIMINAL SUSPECT WHY THEY  NEED. INSTRUCTING YOU PUT A  LITTLE BIT BACK. AND THE CITY  I OBJECT AND YOU SOMETHING NEW  INNOVATIVE EAST OPENLY. 2 FOR  THE SUSPECT PORT POLICE  DEPARTMENT TOLD ALL OF YOU  WILL BATHE WHAT IS DO YOU GUYS  UNDERSTAND WHAT IS THE FACT  THAT IT INTO OBJECT. ACCORDING  LOCAL POLICE DEPARTMENT WENT  INTO OUR NEW A 4 TO 22. WHAT  WANT TO DO THAT WHAT SITES  BOTH WAYS WHEN YOU POUR THE  VEHICLE 67 OUR SOULS. WANTED  SEX OR FROM THAT OF 680  THAT'S. 7 ABOUT STORM NOTE,  7.90 FOR THE THAT OUT THERE ON  65 DAYS. AND WE HAVE THE 2  CRIMES DAY. SO WHY SO MANY SO  LITTLE IN ORDER. IN 2022 AND  THEN WAS SO THAT WAS POLLS.  OTHER 65 DAYS. IT'S LIKE 2014,  BUT THAT WAS THE FRONT OF THE  SKULL. 446,002 ON OR 50 THIS  SAID THAT WILL THIS GOAL. IT  HOLT IS INITIATE IT. GO IT.  WHAT IS THAT ACTUAL SERVICE  QUESTION MARK. ARE YOU  FAMILIAR WITH BEFORE THAT GOES  TO BUSH AN THE EYE SHAMED  LOEWSHOTELS FOODS THAT THE  ORIGINAL HOME A THAT WE PEOPLE  VOTE  >> SPOKE A WHOLE ARE PEOPLE  WHO LIVE HERE DECIDE THAT WAS  GOING ON THAT SOME OUTSIDE  >> THE SPOT WHERE THE 40'S ARE  THOSE THAT IN THE STATE TO A  STOP BUT MATTER BUT IT THAT  SUPPOSED TO BE NOT APARTMENT  IT AND NUMBER VENDING THAT  COLD CALL POLICE OR PEOPLE IN  COMMON IN CLOSE OF THE  STUDENTS THAT WAS LOT THAT SUB  STANDIFER THE EYES PEOPLE. A  STOP TO IT WHAT A LITTLE AND  SO BOASTED THAT GOES HOUSTON.  WELL YOU'VE BEEN ALL TO DO  ABOUT THAT THAT I WAIVE  CLOSED. IT WASN'T A PERFECT  THAT I AND YOU THAT THEY GET  AWAY. SO YOU TRAGIC NEW WITH  30 MINUTE SPEECH.  >> ALL RIGHT I THAT SHED THAT  THAT LIKE WHAT WOULD YOU POINT  IS PROBABLY STILL A THANK YOU.  >> PROBLEM.  >> GOOD GOOD TO SEE LIKE, BUT  HE SOMEBODY OKAY. MOST SERIOUS  NOTE.  >> I WANT TO  ♪ >> SPEAK IT DOES SO I DON'T  GET SIDETRACKED.  ♪ >> IT'S REGARDING SENSITIVE  PLANTS WITHIN OUR CITY. I'VE  REVIEWED THE KIND ULDC I FIND  THAT THERE WAS ACTUALLY NO  SEPARATION WITHIN THE  DEFINITION OF OPEN SPACES. TO  ALLOW FOR LAND THAT HAS BEEN  DEEMED SENSITIVE. REVIEW  PROCESS AND TO SEVERAL  CRITERIA PLANS THAT COULD  POTENTIALLY DESIGNATED AS SUCH  WITHIN THE APPROPRIATE  SECTIONS OF THE ULDC. SOME  KIND EXAMPLES OF THESE ONE  THAT'S COMING UP LATER TONIGHT  SPRING HAVEN DRAWS. A PETITION  DRIVE AREA WHICH I'VE  MENTIONED CONTINUOUSLY. WOMAN  RESPONSES JUST 3 OF THEM,  PLENTY MORE. YES WE SUBJECT  STATE STATUES AND YES WE AND  YES WE HAVE PROCEDURES. AND  YES WE HAVE GUIDELINES PLACE  BUT THEY ARE NOT SATISFACTORY  AND THESE LANDS THAT ARE PUT  ON THE BACKBURNER AND THEY'RE  CAUGHT UP IN RED TAPE YEARS.  YEARS. NOTHING IS BEING DONE.  DUE TO THE INFLUX OF PEOPLE  MOVING TO OUR STATE WE  CONTINUE TO GROW AT SUCH A  FAST PACE AND THE NEED FOR  HOUSING AND COMMERCIAL SPACE  INCREASES A NEW STATE ARE  ENACTED SUCH AS THIS TO THE  LIVE LOCAL ACT. BUT WE'VE  BECOME SUBJECT TO AMPLIFY  DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS  REZONING THE CLIMATE 6 WHICH  AT THE PRESENT TIME SEEM TO BE  INTRUDING INTO AREAS WITHIN  OUR CITY. BUT A HIGHLY  SENSITIVE TO DAY IN A CAB  ATTACKS AND PURPOSES AND  FUNCTIONS. NUMBER ONE I WOULD  SUGGEST TO THIS COMMISSION AND  OUR NATURAL RESOURCES DIVISION  WHICH THANK GOD WE HAVE THANK  LANDED ONE OF GREAT JOB. I  WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE INCLUDE  A CHAPTER WITHIN ULDC THAT  SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSES  SENSITIVE LANDS. AND IT MADE  IT INTO THE NEW CHAPTER 6  DRAFT OF THE ULDC BECAUSE  RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT NOTHING.  ABSOLUTELY NOTHING DELINEATING  SENSITIVE LANDS. EVERYTHING IS  OPEN RECREATION AND THAT'S  JUST NOT CORRECT. ANOTHER  SUBJECT WITH COMPONENTS. IAN  MORATORIUM. THERE ARE MANY  MUNICIPALITIES WITHIN A STATE  THAT INSTITUTED TEMPORARY  DEVELOPMENT MORATORIUMS ON A  CASE-BY-CASE BASIS IN ORDER TO  PROPERLY REVIEW AND  INVESTIGATE THE NEGATIVE  IMPACTS ON THE PROPOSED  DEVELOPMENTS REZONING OR  INFRASTRUCTURES SITUATIONS. SO  FAR HAS BEEN NO FLORIDA PUBLIC  CASE ANALYZING WHETHER  UNCONSTITUTIONAL READY TO  DEPLOY TAKING. A CLOSE ONE A  LOCAL GOVERNMENT TEMPORARILY  PROHIBITS THE DEVELOPMENT OF  PLAN BECAUSE OF A LACK OF  CONCURRENCY. MUNICIPALITIES  ARE DOING IT BECAUSE THAT  SUBJECT TO THE COLLECT  BASICALLY. I WOULD SUGGEST  THAT THE SENSITIVE PLANTS  COULD QUALIFY FOR A TEMPORARY  MORATORIUM.  I'M GONNA DO MAIN IF NEED BE  THAT WE PUT THESE LANDS AND  THE CONSERVATION  >> SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE  WE CAN KEEP ON THE BACK. OUR  TIME IS UP THIS WILL BE BACK  RIGHT. THANK YOU THANK YOU.  >> AND JOIN MISTER STOKES  THING AND A LITTLE SOAP AS AN  EMPLOYEE GETS EMPLOYEE LORD OF  MERCY. AND A CITIZEN WHO GETS  TEXT MESSAGES FROM THE CITY  EMAILS FROM THE CITY AND  FACEBOOK THINGS FROM THE  SENATE.  >> I KNOW THAT WE'RE BUYING A  NEW FOR THE TRANSFER STATION.  WELL WHAT ANYBODY IN THIS CITY  IMPORTANT SPEAKS DOWN ON  FACEBOOK I'VE GOT A LOOK IT UP  ON NORTH PORT NEIGHBORS. I  SOMEBODY ELSE TEXT ME AND HEY  MAN I SAW THIS. I KNOW WE HAVE  COMMUNICATIONS I'M SURE I JUST  HAVEN'T FIGURED OUT HOW TO  FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY'RE GOING  YET. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A  WAY THE END OF THE MEETING  THEY SAY HEY DON'T FORGET. I  KNOW IT'S SUPPOSED ON THE CITY  I KNOW THE AGE GROUP USE THIS  THING FOR EVERYTHING ALWAYS ON  THE MOVE WEBSITE DOESN'T  ALWAYS ALONE ON MY PHONE. I  DON'T SO MUCH INFORMATION BUT  I GET CARRIER THEY TO MAKE. SO  I JUST REALLY HOPE THAT YOU  GUYS UNDERSTAND THAT WE WOULD  LOVE TO HELP YOU OUT MORE  CITIZENS. AND WE WOULD REALLY  LIKE TO STOP BEING THAT YOU  GUYS NEVER LESS AND ALSO WE  GIVE UP THROUGH. I LITERALLY  SAT THROUGH ONLY IS IT YOUR  SENSE OUR MEETINGS AND I  FINALLY LEARNED THAT THEY WERE  GOING TO DO SOMETHING WITH  THAT BUILDING OVER THERE. I  MEAN IT SHOULDN'T BE THAT  DIFFICULT IF YOU GUYS CAN JUST  REALLY HOPE LAY OUT A PLAN. I  THINK WE WOULD NOT FIGHT YOU  QUITE SO HARD. I CALL THE NONE  OF US SO I YOU KNOW IF YOU  HELP ME FIND IT ALL THE PEOPLE  FIND IT I MEAN JUST WANT THANK  YOU SO MUCH THAT'S REALLY MY  ONLY REQUEST. AND THAT'S ALL I  COULD.  ANY OF AGAIN OPENING  MYSELF IN TROUBLE. I'M HERE TO  APOLOGIZE. AS A MEMBER OF THE  ENVIRONMENT EYES OR. TO MISTER  FLETCHER. STAFF. OR NOT.  HAVING A CORUM IT'S A SPECIAL  MEETING LAST NIGHT. YOU HAVE  NO IDEA A LEVEL AGGRAVATION  FRUSTRATION AND FLAT STOP OKAY  BECAUSE I KNOW HOW HARD  EVERYBODY WORKED FORMALLY  ISSUES AND I KNOW THE TIME  FRAME IS VERY SHORT. TO  ADDRESS ULDC AND THOSE  ACTIONS. SO. I NORMALLY  ENDEAVOR TO. SPEAKS U N.  HOPEFULLY BRING SOLUTIONS  ISSUES NOT. A KIND NATION.  SOMEBODY MADE EXCELLENT  SOLUTION. RECOMMENDATION.  RELATED TO. HIGH READINGS.  WE'RE ALL BOARDS AND  COMMITTEES THAT WOULD PROBABLY  INCREASE PARTICIPATION AND THE  FUNCTIONALITY OF THESE PORTS.  AS I SAID. I'M CONSIDERING  STEPPING DOWN AS CHAIRMAN THAT  WAS REMAIN ON THE BOARD. SO I  HAVE. GREATER ABILITY TO  ADDRESS ISSUES. THAT I DO NOT  HAVE YEAR. THANK YOU.  >> I MOVE TO ITEM 3  ANNOUNCEMENTS.  >> THE CURRENT VACANCIES FOR  THE FOLLOWING BOARDS AND  COMMITTEES INCLUDE ART  ADVISORY BOARD SELECTION  COMMITTEE CHARTER REVIEW  ADVISORY BOARD CITIZENS TAX  OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE,  ENVIRONMENTAL ADVISORY BOARD  PLANNING AND ZONING ADVISORY  BOARD VETERANS PARK ADVISORY  COMMITTEE AND ZONING BOARD OF  APPEALS SARASOTA COUNTY  ADVISORY COUNCIL VACANCIES  INCLUDE ONE RESIDENT OF NORTH  PORT TO SERVE ON THE CITIZEN  ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND ONE  RESIDENT OF PORT TO SERVING  THE CITIZENS OVERSIGHT SCHOOL  SO PLANNING IF ANYONE WOULD  LIKE MORE INFORMATION THEY SAY  THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE THINK.  >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU MOVING  ON TO ITEM FOR THE CONSENT  AGENDA. TO OR HAVE ANY ITEMS  BEEN PAUL.  >> YES, MADAM MAYOR ITEM FOR  J.  BOARD AS BUY. OKAY.  >> WE DO HAVE A LIGHT I  RECOGNIZE THAT I MISSED A  DEADLINE TO PULL ANOTHER ITEM  FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA. I  WANTED TO ALSO PULL ITEM HIGH.  SO IF I COULD PLEASE HAVE A  LITTLE BIT OF LENIENCY AND  PULL ITEMS I AND J I ASSURE  YOU I WILL BE QUICK AND J  MAYBE NOT SO MUCH.  >> GOVERNMENT  >> AND MAYOR.  >> YES GO AHEAD.  >> AND I'M UNDER UNDERSTANDING  THAT WHEN I WENT TO MY AGENDA  BRIEFING I PULLED ITEM J SO I  DON'T KNOW WHO WAS THEIR FIRST  OR WHATNOT BUT I HAD ITEM J TO  BE PULLED AS WELL.  >> THIS WILL BE A GREAT  CONVERSATION ALL RIGHT AND  THEN WE ALSO HAVE A REQUEST TO  PULL ITEM I'LL JUST ASK WHY.  COMMISSIONERS MY SHARE THAT  CHICAGO CAME OKAY THEN MOTION  FOR THAT MAKE A MOTION TO  APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA  PULLING ITEMS I AND J FOR  DISCUSSION.  >> ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION  ON TABLE BY COMMISSIONER  MCDOWELL ITEMS I AND J FROM  THE CONSENT AGENDA AND THAT  WAS SECONDED BY. COMMISSIONER  THERE'S NOTHING ALL. VOICE  VOTE. VICE MAYOR.  >> VICE MAYOR IS YES.  >> THEY ARE WHITE CS  COMMISSIONER LANGDON YES.  >> COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL IS  YES AND THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING  ITEM I TO BE PULLED. AND  COMMISSIONER EMRICH.  >> WHICH IS THE U.S. ALL RIGHT  SO THAT PASSES 5 TO 0.  >> WELL THAT DON'T GUESS  THAT'S MISSION SO.  >> THIS IS FOR THE FUNDING.  AND IT IS FOR THE. CREEK  BRIDGE OVER PRICE BOULEVARD  IT'S. NO I'M SORRY IT'S FOR  THE PRICE BOULEVARD PHASE 2  SORRY WRONG IT WAS MY  UNDERSTANDING THAT WHEN WE  INITIALLY TALKED CERTAIN HE  DECIR QUE THAT THE PROJECT HAD  TO BE COMPLETED IN THE IN 6  YEARS.  >> IS THAT.  >> TRUE.  >> EVERY MOMENT COUNTS TO THE  MANAGER ACADEMIA, YES,  DISTRICT.  >> OKAY SO WE HAVE 6 YEARS TO  COMPLETE PHASE 2 OF PRICE  BOULEVARD WIDENING. BUT WE DO  NOT HAVE ANY DESIGN PLANS. WE  HAVE TO SIGN PLANS IN PROCESS  FOR THE BRIDGE. WE HAVE NO  FUNDING MECHANISMS FOR PRICE  BOULEVARD PHASE 2. IT'S MY  UNDERSTANDING ALSO THAT THE  RESILIENT SRQ IS ONE OF THOSE  GRANTS WHERE WE PAY FOR FIRST  AND THEN WE GET REIMBURSED.  HOW ARE WE GOING TO PAY FOR  THIS. SO IF WE HAVE TO EXPEND  6 YEARS.  >> CAN'T SPEAK THE FINAL PART.  LIKE HOW FINANCE ALL OF OUR  GRANTS ARE REIMBURSED CREATES  AND THERE'S FINANCING  MECHANISM. BUT THEY USE AND  I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT.  THE FINANCE THAT FOR  REIMBURSEMENT HERE.  >> IS  >> THE PUBLIC WORKS ACTUALLY  THIS WILL BE THE SECOND ONE OF  THESE AGGRESSIVE. WITH THE  OTHER ONES THAT ARE CS  REIMBURSABLE REP THAT WHEN WE  ARE TRYING TO ROUND UP FRONT  THAT I. I DON'T KNOW  50 MILLION THAT WOULD BE A  ANOTHER CONVERSATION HAVE WE  DON'T HAVE 50 MILLION  ANYWHERE. NOW TO DO THIS. BUT  WE WOULD GO INTO DESIGN WHICH  WOULD TAKE PROBABLY 18 MONTHS  YEARS. BUT BEYOND THAT I DON'T  KNOW WHAT OUR FUNDING  MECHANISM. SO.  >> IF IT'S GOING TO TAKE 18  MONTHS TO 2 YEARS TO DO  DESIGN. AND WE HAVE TO GO OUT  TO BID FOR CONSTRUCTION IS IT.  REALLY FEASIBLE TO BE ABLE TO  COME UP WITH 50 MILLION  DOLLARS WHICH WE KNOW IS GOING  TO INCREASE OVER TIME. AND GET  THIS PROJECT COMPLETE. WITHIN  6 YEARS.  >> THE FUNDING SIDE OF IT I  CAN'T SPEAK. BUT THE  COMPLETION DEPARTMENT BELIEVE  COULD BE COMPLETE. 6 YEARS  PROCUREMENT  >> VICE MAYOR.  >> WHAT WHAT PERFECT EXAMPLE  OF HELP AND OFFICIAL IT WOULD  HAVE BORROWING ABILITY. THEN  WE GET I NEED DO IT AND THEN  GET REIMBURSED FOR IT FOR IT.  >> SHAME ON  >> THAT WE PUT TOGETHER A LIST  FOR SRQ ARRESTS IN MARCH AND I  WENT BACK BECAUSE THERE'S NOT  ONLY THIS BUT OBVIOUSLY J WITH  REGARD TO SPRING HAVEN AND.  PROJECTS ON THIS LIST THAT.  EITHER WERE SHOT DOWN OR WE  DON'T HAVE THE MONEY FOR AND  LIKE WHERE WE'RE HEADED MARCH  WHEN WE PUT THIS TOGETHER SO  YOU KNOW I HAVE I'M JAY I WAS  GOING TO ASK THE QUESTIONS BUT  I'LL THIS QUESTION NOW WHAT  HAPPENS.  WE GET. THE COUNTY APPROVES.  ANY ONE OF LET'S SINCE WE'RE  ON I LET'S SAY AND AND WE  DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO FUND  IT. WHAT HAPPENS TO THE GRANT  MONEY. THIS IS JUST GO BACK TO  THE COUNTY AND THEY SOMEBODY  ELSE PACIFIC LEE, YOU KNOW  WHAT IT I ONLY KNEW THAT ITEM  J WAS GETTING COLD AND THAT'S  RIGHT.  >> I AND I APOLOGIZE I JUST  REMIND I JUST WENT OH MY GOSH  BACK OLD JACK THIS ONE FOR THE  50 MILLION I FORGOT TO PULL  IT, BUT IMPORTANT TO HAVE THIS  CONVERSATION OH ABSOLUTELY AND  SO.  >> I. IT'S MY PREFERENCE. IT  LOOKS BETTER IN THE CITY. THE  COMMISSION DECIDES THAT THEY  DON'T LIKE ONE OF THESE  APPLICATIONS, YOU KNOW YOU WE  HAD A PERIOD DOOR. ACTUALLY  CLEAR COMMENTS AND LIST PUT  TOGETHER COUPLE MEMOS OF WHAT  WE ARE APPLYING FOR YOU KNOW  BE FAIRLY APPLIED ALSO AFTER.  I WOULD PREFER US TO WITHDRAW  APPLICATIONS NOW BEFORE THEY  GO TO THE COUNTY BOARD. THEY  TOO GET A GRANT UNTIL THE  COUNTY THAT'S WHAT WE CAN'T DO  IT. JUST BECAUSE YOU KNOW WE  LET THEM IN A POSITION AND  THEN IT IT ALSO REFLECTS YOU  KNOW.  >> THE 15 MILLION FOR PRICE  WIDENING IN SURTAX IS  SCHEDULED FOR WHAT YEARS 10 TO  15. SO IF WE WERE TO GET THIS  WE WILL FIND OURSELVES IN A  PICKLE, EVEN IF WE DIDN'T MESS  WITH THE SHIRT ACTS. A NICE AT  ALL FOR ANY OTHER PROJECT THAT  WE'VE PREVIOUSLY TALKED ABOUT  WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GET  HANDS ON IT. SO YEARS 10 TO  15. AND SHOULD WE BE IN A  PICKLE. SO WE MAY WANT THINK  ABOUT THIS HOW WE DO THIS POST  NOW'S THE TIME TO PUT PROBABLY  SHOULDN'T THIS CONVERSATION IN  MARCH SOMETIMES YOU KNOW JUST  TAKES A LOT OF GET UP TO SPEED  SO I GET IT. MORTGAGE  COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL, YEAH,  SO.  >> IN MARCH WE DIDN'T DISCUSS  THIS. WE DISCUSSED THE PROJECT  LIST JUNE OF LAST YEAR. WE  WERE NOT TOLD OF THE  PARAMETERS IN JUNE OF LAST  YEAR THAT ALL REMEMBER HEARING  WAS 6 MONTHS I DID I MEAN 6  YEARS TO COMPLETE. I DIDN'T  HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT FUNDING  MAYBE WE DIDN'T KNOW AT THAT  TIME BECAUSE THE COUNTY WAS  STILL WORKING THROUGH THE THE  VETTING OF THE WORK PRODUCT TO  SUBMIT TO HOOK SO MY PROBLEM  IS. WE DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO  THIS. SINCE JUNE UNTIL NOW.  AND I KNOW WE RECEIVED A MEMO  FROM THE CITY MANAGER IN MARCH  THAT LISTED ALL THE PROJECTS,  HOWEVER. THE PROJECTS WERE  ALREADY SENT TO THE COUNTY. I  HAVE I HAVE MEMO FROM THE CITY  MANAGER TO COUNTY  ADMINISTRATOR DATED MARCH  15TH. THE COMMISSION RECEIVED  THE MEMO THAT THESE WERE  SUBMITTED DO IT.  >> PAST TENSE. ALREADY. THESE  WERE THE PROJECTS THAT WERE  SUBMITTED FOR THE APPLICATION  SO WHILE I APPRECIATE THE FACT  THAT WE CAN PULL IT NOW TO  AVOID EMBARRASSMENT AND TIME  AND ENERGY AT THE COUNTY  LEVEL.  >> I'M SORRY IT'S STILL  INVESTMENT TO THE CITY THAT WE  ARE NOW GOING TO POTENTIALLY  LOSE 50 MILLION DOLLARS IN  THIS VERY VITAL. HURRICANE IAN  RECOVERY MONEY  >> YOU MAY REMEMBER WE HAVE  THE GRANT RESOLUTION, THIS  RESOLUTION 20 UNDERSTAND THAT  IS A WE WOULD EVER.  >> ANSWER.  >> AND ON A MARCH MARCH 4TH I  HAVE DRAFTED UP TO COMMISSION.  WITH THE LIST OF PROJECTS IN  THE AMOUNTS THAT WE'RE ASKING.  SO AND THAT WAS BEFORE THE  APPLICATIONS WERE PUT IN AND  THE WHOLE PURPOSE FOR HAVING  THIS GRANT MEMO IS IF THERE'S  SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE  DISCUSSED. SO WE HAVE TIME. TO  BRING IT OUT YOU KNOW THERE'S  SOMETHING THERE. IS TO BE  TALKED ABOUT THERE'S TIME TO  TALK TO THE CITY MANAGER OR  THE STAFF THAT SO.  >> WITH ALL DUE RESPECT THE  COMMISSION HAS APPROVED A  RESOLUTION GIVING THE CITY  MANAGER THE AUTHORITY TO  SUBMIT. GRANT APPLICATIONS TO  VARIOUS ENTITIES AND THAT WE  RECEIVED THE MEMO AFTER THE  FACT I WAS ALWAYS AGAINST IT  IT WORKED OUT WELL FOR A FEW  YEARS UNTIL NOW WHEN IT  DOESN'T WORK SO WELL AND IT'S  COMING BACK IN FOR SLOW BUT  APPLICATIONS WERE NOT  SUBMITTED YET.  >> THE MEMO IS DATED ON MARCH  4TH. THE APPLICATIONS WERE DUE  TO MARCH 18. THEY WERE NOT  SUBMITTED. OKAY LET ME HEAR  FROM OTHER.  >> AND MAYBE YEAR AND  COMMISSIONER I HAVE QUESTION  IF WE DID DECIDE ONE IS GRANT  APPLICATIONS. IS THERE TIME IN  THE PROCESS TOO. REQUEST  FUNDING FOR SOMETHING ELSE OR  THAT WHEN DO YOU KNOW THAT  WINDOWS PASO ACTUALLY RIGHT  NOW THE COUNTY'S ASKING US  ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON A  COUPLE APPLICATIONS YOU NOTICE  OF CLARIFICATION SAYS TYPES OF  THINGS RIGHT NOW.  >> THESE GO TO COUNTY  COMMISSION BOARD OF AND THEIR  DEADLINE IS COMING UP PRETTY  SOON WE HAVE ABOUT A MONTH.  ITEMS. OKAY IT'S WHAT I  >> YEAH THE FROM ALL ALL OF  THE SAFETY GROUP IF THE GRANT  IS AWARDED SO IT IS A REALLY  BIG WORD. IF THE GRANT IS OR  WHAT IT. PROPERY BUDGET WILL  BE PUT IN PLACE FOR THESE  EXPENSES AND YOU SAID THERE'S  6 YEARS. SO IS THAT 6 YEARS  TILL WE GET REIMBURSED.  >> NOW SO REIMBURSEMENTS  CONCURRENTLY SO AS WE SPEND  IT. WE SUBMIT REIMBURSEMENTS  QUARTERLY.  >> IT'S A FOR WHAT REALLY NOT  A 50 MILLION UP FRONT. NOW YOU  HAD OKAY. BECAUSE SOME OF  THESE JUST SAY THEY HAVE A  MATCH OF YOU KNOW TO MILLIONS  NOT FOR THE WHOLE THING THAT  AS THE ONE THAT IT SAYS THE  AMOUNT OF 2 MILLION WILL BE  PROVIDED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF  PUBLIC WORKS. FOR THAT ONE,  BUT A BROKEN BUDGET BECAUSE I  I COULDN'T SEE THAT WE WERE  GOING TO SET ASIDE 50 MILLION  DOLLARS NOT EVEN KNOW WERE  GOING GET THE GRANT. IT WOULD  BE A NICE THING TO WORRY  ABOUT. THAT HAPPENS THAT WE  HAVE TO. FIGURE OUT HOW TO  SHUFFLE MONEY BUT THAT'S THE  WAY IT'S SET UP. THAT GRANT  SO. GET THAT PROBLEM TO HAVE  IT. WHAT THESE GRAND SO I  THAT'S MY TAKE ON THAT.  COMMISSIONER AND RICH DO HAVE.  >> NOT ON THIS ONE I GOT I GOT  MY ON HIM AND SAVED UP FOR J  OKAY I SO HEAR FROM YET. BACK  ON THAT I LIKE IT'S THERE'S A  SILVER LINING HERE.  >> LIKE YOU KNOW IT WILL BE  GUESS YOU KNOW GOOD KIND OF  PROBLEM 60 MILLION DOLLARS  THAT WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT  LIKE HOW WE'RE GOING TO FRONT  BECAUSE I WOULD SAY THAT'S  JUST ONE GOOD EXAMPLE IN ONE  OF THE THINGS WE HAD A MESSAGE  TO US CITIZENS WHEN WE GO OUT  NOVEMBER AND ASK CHARTER  AMENDMENT TO BORROW MONEY. SO  THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE SPENT  A WHOLE DAY TALKING ABOUT AND  YOU KNOW WHAT MAYBE IT'S A  BLESSING THAT THINGS RIGHT  THERE. INSTEAD A NOT SO I SAY  MY COUNTY GIVE US 50 MAIL WILL  FIGURE OUT WHAT TO YOU KNOW  MAYBE YOU'RE RIGHT WITH  PERSPECTIVE. COMMISSIONER LIKE  GET THIS ONE OTHER QUICK  QUESTION YOU SAID SOMETHING  VERY INTRIGUING WHICH WAS.  >> HE GET THE REIMBURSEMENT ON  A QUARTERLY BASIS. SO HOW MANY  CORRIDOR IS IN THE LENGTH OF  THIS PROJECT SORT OF UP TO 4  YEARS OF 16 QUARTER US. 16 AND  TO 50 MILLION. DO THE THAT MY  BRAIN IS TIRED, IT'S BEEN A  LONG NOT A HUGE AMOUNT OF  MONEY.  >> SO.  >> I'M SORT OF THING CAN TELL  ME IF I'M WRONG THAT WE CAN  FIND THAT MONEY GET REIMBURSED  AND JUST KINDA WELL THAT.  AGAIN YOU YOU BOTH SAID YOU  DIDN'T REALLY HAVE THE  FINANCING MECHANISM CORRECTLY  WE WOULD  CONVERSATION FINANCE THIS WE  WOULD KNOW THIS WAS GOING TO  BE DISCUSSED.  >> EVEN 4 MILLION QUARTERLY IS  A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF MONEY.  >> COME UP WITH BUT THEN YOU  GET REIMBURSED AND YOU KIND OF  WORLDS OF ROLLING FOR A C I  UNDERSTAND BUT WHAT I REALLY  WANT TO COMMIT TO THAT.  >> RICHARD OUT  >> REIMBURSABLE GRANTS WAS WE  EXPEND FIRST WHAT WE EXPEND IS  WHAT WE GET REIMBURSED FOR SO  MAYBE QUARTER ONE WE EXPEND  $10,000. NOW WE WAIT TO GET  THAT $10,000 QUARTERLY. BUT  THEN ODOR 3 WE EXPEND  10 MILLION DOLLARS AND WE HAVE  TO WAIT TO GET THAT MONEY SO  AND I UNDERSTAND THAT FINANCE  IS NOT HERE TO SPEAK TO THIS.  IT WOULD BE REALLY INTERESTING  TO KNOW WHAT OTHER CABINET AND  HAPPY AT STRINGS ATTACHED  WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT  THAT IS ATTACHED TO THIS.  THESE GRANT FUNDINGS SO THAT  WE KNOW AHEAD OF TIME WHEN  ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE GOING  INTO BUDGET. WE REALLY NEED TO  HAVE ALL OF THAT INFORMATION  PRIOR TO BUDGET. COMMISSIONER  ALIGNMENT JUST WANT TO SAY I  WOULDN'T BE COMFORTABLE.  >> POLLING THIS ART TAKING ANY  ACTION ON THIS ITEM UNTIL I  UNDERSTOOD THE FINANCIAL  MECHANISM SO I'D I DON'T KNOW  KIND OF LOOKING AT CITY CLERK  TO DO WE PULL THIS AND BRING  IT BACK AS AN AGENDA ITEM WE  DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF  TIME. TO WASTE. HERE COMES  JULIE. IT'S GOING TO FUN OF.  >> IT'S ONLY IN FOR MAY 22ND.  >> JULIAN ASSISTANT CITY  MANAGER SO I GRANTS PLANNER  AND THEY'RE ALL PRETTY MUCH  SAME THE WAY THE FINANCE  FINANCING WORKS BUT. THE CITY  OF PORT. THE FIRST THING WE  HAVE TO DO IS WE HAVE TO  BUDGET THE FULL AMOUNT FOR THE  PROJECT. SO WHEN WE BUDGET  THIS IT'S GOING TO BE WHATEVER  MISTER SPEAKE TELLS US IT'S  GOING TO COST BASED ON HIS  COST ESTIMATES THAT THE PERSON  AS FAR AS HOW MUCH YOU'RE  GOING TO BACK 3 NUMBERS AND  TRY TO FIGURE IT ALL OUT ALL  THAT WAY THAT'S FINE THAT'S A  GOOD WAY TO FORECAST IT. BUT  THE KEY IS YOU HAVE TO HAVE  THAT FULL AMOUNT BUDGETED IN  YOUR BUDGET. SO CAN TAKE THE  CHANCE WE CAN TRY TO GET THE  50 MILLION DOLLARS AND THEN  MATCH IT IT'S TAKING A CHANCE.  BUT AS WITH ANY GRANT YOU KNOW  IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO SAY GO  AFTER THE GRAND REQUEST TO  GRANT. BUT IT'S GOOD TO KNOW  AHEAD OF TIME HOW ARE YOU  GOING TO FUND IT. YOU KNOW  SOMETIMES WE KNOW SOMETIMES WE  DON'T KNOW. BUT PRETTY MUCH  HISTORICALLY THE CITY HAS  ALWAYS COMMISSION PRETTY MUCH  AS DIRECTED STAFF FOR THE MOST  PART WESTERLY WINDS REALLY  GRATZ THERE'S A COST TO GRANTS  THERE'S NO FREE GRANT. THERE'S  ALWAYS GOING TO BE SOME TYPE  OF COST IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE  CONDITIONS THINGS LIKE THAT.  THE GOOD NEWS WITH ONE IS THAT  IF WE DECIDE WE CAN'T COME UP  WITH A MUCH DANCE IS GOING TO  BE IN THE END OF THE DAY. WE  WHAT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE  TO TELL THE COUNTY  UNFORTUNATELY WE WON'T BE ABLE  TO THIS PROJECT WE WON'T NEED  THAT MONEY. NOW THAT THING  WITH THAT IS YOU KNOW NEXT  TIME AROUND THEY'RE GOING TO  BE LIKE YOU KNOW TAKING A  SECOND LOOK AT US THAT'S JUST  SOME JUST A FEW WORDS OF  GUIDANCE. THANK YOU  COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL. I DARE  ASK.  >> HAVE THE FUNDING MECHANISMS  IN PLACE FOR THE OTHER GRANT  APPLICATIONS THAT HAVE ALREADY  BEEN SUBMITTED.  >> I WOULD BELIEVE OVER 6 YEAR  TERM THOSE OTHER MUCH LESSER  AMOUNTS YOU PUT INTO OUR  NORMAL. YEAH, PERSON.  ♪ ♪ >> NEXT ONE THAT WE'RE GOING  TO BE TALKING ABOUT IS NOT  BUDGETED EITHER THAT'S WHY I'M  ASKING. SO THANK YOU. I MAKE A  MOTION MAYOR. OKAY.  >> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.  >> THE GRANT APPLICATION TO  COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT GRANT  BLOCK GRANT. THE AMOUNT OF  50 MILLION 310 THOUSAND FOR  THE PRICE BOULEVARD WIDENING  PHASE 2.  >> ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION  MADE BY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL  TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION TO  THE RESILIENT SRQ COMMUNITY  DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT  DISASTER RECOVERY PROGRAM AND  THE AMOUNT OF  50 MILLION 310 THOUSAND  DOLLARS FOR THE PRICE  BOULEVARD WINDING. TO PROJECT  AND THAT WAS SECONDED BY.  >> VICE MAYOR STOKES. THERE'S  NOTHING ELSE WILL DO A VOICE  VOTE. VICE MAYOR. YES. YOUR  WIFE YES. COMMISSIONER YES.  IT'S AVERAGE.  >> COMMISSIONER EMRICH SAYS  THE ALL RIGHT SO THAT PASSES.  I'VE TO 0 AND THAT WAS ITEM I.  CENTER GENDER. AND NOW WE'RE  MOVING TO POTH ITEM J. WE HAVE  A JUMP BALL.  >> BY MISTER COMMISSIONERS  THEY WANT TO TAKE OKAY TAKE  IT. I  >> THEN I'LL  >> YEAH, I KNOW I KNOW.  COMMISSIONER MIRMAN SEE THE  SAME THING THAT I DID AND I'M  SURE SHE'S GOING TO PROBABLY  HAVE A LOT OF THE SAME THINGS  WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS SPRING  HAVEN PROJECT AND MULTIPLE  TIMES ON THE DIOCESE AND IT  WAS NEVER ABOUT FINANCES. IT  WAS ABOUT THE SITUATION OUT  THERE SPRING HAVEN.  >> IT'S IT'S A WILDLIFE  CORRIDOR IT'S A MAJOR WILDLIFE  CORRIDOR. WE HAVE EXPERTS DOWN  HERE TALKING ABOUT DIFFERENT  TUNNELS DIFFERENT BRIDGES,  DIFFERENT TYPES OF THINGS THAT  COULD BE INCORPORATED IN THE  MAKING IT WORK. AND THEN WE  HAD OTHER EXPERTS SAYING WELL,  YEAH I DON'T WORK THAT WILL  GET THEM TO THEIR AREAS BUT  THEN TURNS IT INTO A KILL ZONE  WHERE THE PREDATORS JUST SIT  AND WATCH AND WAIT FOR THE  SMALLER PREY TO COME THROUGH.  IT WOULD BE A DEVASTATION. OUR  WILDLIFE POPULATION OUT THERE  TO PUT THIS SEMI EMERGENCY  SORT ROAD IN THERE AND I  HAVEN'T YOU KNOW FOR THIS EVEN  COME BACK AGAIN, I TOLD THEM  AT MY AGENDA BRIEFING THAT  THIS WAS **** SNEAKY GOING ON  THE CONSENT AGENDA TRYING TO  GET GRANT MONEY TO GET THIS  APPROVED AFTER AND SPEND THE  NIGHT AT LEAST 3 TIMES ON THE  DIAS AND IT'S JUST IT JUST  KEEPS COMING BACK KEEP COMING  BACK. GOT TO STOP THERE'S A  DIRT ACCESS ROAD OUT THERE.  MISTER YARBROUGH STATED WHAT  WE DID HAVE SOME PROBLEMS  DURING WILL REBUILD YOUR DIRT  ROAD AND BE DONE WITH IT THERE  WAS NO PROBLEMS. SO THAT'S MY  SPIEL ON THAT AND I'D LIKE TO  SEE THIS REMOVED FROM THIS  WANT LESS TO THE COUNTY. THANK  YOU COMMISSIONER.  >> I'M SURE IT DOWN. YEAH.  >> AND COMMISSIONER ECHOED  SOME OF MY SENTIMENTS BUT  ACTUALLY WHEN WE DISCUSSED  THIS ON JUNE 27TH. LAST YEAR.  I EXPRESSED CONCERN ABOUT THIS  PROJECT BEING ON THE LIST AND  UNFORTUNATELY I DIDN'T GET  MUCH SUPPORT FOR PULLING IT AT  THAT TIME. AND FOR THE REASONS  THAT YOU HAVE ALREADY  MENTIONED IT'S A WILDLIFE  CORRIDOR I DIDN'T GET SUPPORT  PULL IT OFF I WAS NOT GOING TO  VOTE AGAINST THE RESULTING  DECIR QUE ENTIRE LIST.  >> IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT WHAT  WE HAVE FORCE TODAY AS A  PROJECT FOR 6 MILLION DOLLARS.  THERE'S NO FUNDING. THERE'S NO  CIP. THE COST TO CONSTRUCT  BASED ON THIS APPLICATION WAS  USING 20 EIGHTEEN'S FIGURES  WHEN THAT WAS BROUGHT US AND  THE COMMISSION SQUASHED IT  2018. AND WE ALL KNOW THE COST  OF CONSTRUCTION HAS GONE UP  DOUBLE OR ALMOST TRIPLE AND  SINCE 2018. THERE'S NO ABILITY  TO FUND THIS PROJECT. AND ONLY  IS HELPING APPROXIMATELY  ACCORDING TO THE APPLICATION  6,000 PEOPLE.  >> 6,006 1000 CITIZENS.  >> AND ONE DEVELOPER WHO'S  LANDLOCKED WHO CAN'T DEVELOP  UNTIL WE BUILD THIS ROUTE.  >> AND THAT DEVELOPER WON'T  SELL THE LAND TO THE CITY  BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY TRIED  PURCHASING IT WE'VE TRIED  MULTIPLE TIMES. THIS PROJECT  IS IN PAIN EXTREMELY  ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE  AREA. CONNECTING THE MYAKKA  GREAT TO THE LITTLE SALT  SPRINGS. THERE'S NO WAY WE'RE  GOING TO GET THIS PROJECT DONE  IN 6 YEARS. THERE'S NO FUNDING  FOR.  >> I. I REALLY HAVE TO WONDER.  >> THIS IF WE'RE GOING TO PULL  SOMETHING THIS IS THE PROJECT  BECAUSE I DO NOT WANT THE CITY  TO APPROVE OR THE COUNTY TO  COPE AND IMPROVE IT. AND HAVE  ALL OF THE CITIZENS FROM NORTH  PORT SAINT PLEASE. VOTE  AGAINST THIS PROJECT. WE  SHOULD NEVER LET'S PUT THIS  PROJECT ON THAT LIST. OKAY  VICE MAYOR. YEAH.  >> WE'RE IT'S MY TYPICAL  NATURE TO BE SO EMOTIONAL  ABOUT SOME THINGS I WOULD HAVE  TO SAY I WANT IT'S EMOTIONAL I  WOULD SAY GET A LITTLE BIT OF  SHAME ON US. I THINK YOU KNOW  WITH VOLUME OF STUFF TO COMES  BEFORE US.  >> WE WERE ALSO LIKE EYE ON  THE MONEY. YOU KNOW  COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL MAY HAVE  BROUGHT THIS ISSUE UP BACK AND  FRANKLY IT IT IT CAN GET ON MY  RADAR ENOUGH. I ALSO WASN'T  YOU KNOW HERE AS WERE ANY OF  US EXCEPT FOR COMMISSIONER  MCDOWELL, IT WAS EARLY MAY OF  2018 WHEN COMMISSIONER  RESOUNDING LEE CARRIED THIS  PROJECT AND THERE WERE STUDIES  AND THEIR WORK. WILDLIFE  EXPERTS WHO CAME AND SPOKE TO  THIS ISSUE AND THERE WERE  QUALIFICATIONS ON THIS PROJECT  LIKE EYEING UP ONLY  UNDEVELOPED LAND WHICH AS I  HEAR FROM COMMISSIONER  MCDOWELL NEVER OCCURRED US  LANDOWNER THERE TO DEVELOPER  NEVER WANTED TO DO IT. SO YOU  KNOW WE REALLY. LOOK AT THIS  PROJECT AND IF THERE WAS EVER  WANT TO PULL THIS WOULD BE I  MEAN I AM SENSITIVE TO THE  ISSUE OF YOU KNOW WE WENT  THROUGH A HURRICANE SINCE THEN  AND IT CERTAINLY RAISED THE  CONCERN OVER EVACUATION BUT  IT'S A STRAIGHT ANSWER, I  DON'T KNOW WE DIDN'T HAVE A  NATURAL RESOURCE. DIVISION  BACK AND BUT WE DO NOW. YOU  KNOW THIS ONE. IT'S THERE'S NO  WAY TO LIVE OR CALL 6 MILLION  IT WILL COST TWICE LEAST. I I  THIS ONE JUST DOESN'T MAKE ANY  SENSE AT ALL IT'S IT'S 6  SMELL. I YOU KNOW I WOULD LOVE  TO SEE THIS WHEN AND AGAIN I I  DON'T BLAME ANYONE ELSE. I  JUST BLAME US AND MYSELF ARE  LIKE NOT ASKING MORE QUESTIONS  ABOUT IT, NOT EXPLORE MORE YOU  KNOW IT'S JUST SHE'S THIS IS  ONE OF THOSE THINGS A LITTLE  BIRDIE HAD TWEETED IT OUT ON  SOCIAL MEDIA SOMEWHERE  SWIMMING EVEN BEEN ON MY RADAR  I SAT HERE RIGHT NOW. THANK  YOU SIR AND YOU KNOW IT'S A.  IT'S LIKE. YOU KNOW. CITIZENS  LOOK AT THIS WHAT ARE THESE  PEOPLE DOING THIS ONE SURE  THIS WAS JUST A SIMPLE. I MEAN  NOT A SIMPLE THIS WAS A  MISTAKE WE MADE IT WE SHOULD  FIX IT WE SHOULD THIS OFF AND  MOVE ON ACTUAL. NO SENSE OF  BEATING THIS HORSE TO DEATH  BUT THIS WAS STATE MICHAEL. I  JUST HAD A QUESTION.  >> ABOUT A MINUTE. AND KNOW  ABOUT THIS FOR. MANY YEARS  BEFORE I SAT UP I'LL JUST SAY  IT IS A CAR FROM THE MYAKKA  HACHI CREEK TO ALL SORTS  THINGS BUT THIS OFFENSE AROUND  ARE SALT SPRINGS PROPERTIES  ANYBODY KNOW THAT. I JUST WANT  TO CLARIFY WERE SAYING TO MY  OFFICE OFFSPRING'S ISN'T  ACTUALLY GO INTO THAT.  PROPERTY ACCEPT THAT THERE WAS  A FENCE THAT ENTIRE PROPERTY  THAT IS OWNED BY UNIVERSITY  MIAMI MEANT TO DO.  >> CHUCK SPEAKE PUBLIC WORKS  DIRECTOR I BELIEVE THERE'S  LIKE A CATTLE FENCE OR  SOMETHING WHERE IT'S NOT  SOMETHING THAT WOULD STOP ALL  LIFE. OKAY, THAT DOESN'T HAVE  BARBED WIRE. NOT WHERE OKAY.  >> OKAY SO COMMISSIONER SHOULD  HAVE NOTHING ELSE AND CHECKED  FOR PRETTY MUCH. ON THE SAME  DAY THAT I HAVE PUBLIC  COMMENT. THANK YOU. AND IT WAS  PUBLIC GENTLE LOU.  >> SO I BELIEVE THE SERIES OF  RESILIENT SRQ REQUEST FROM THE  CONSENT AGENDA COULD BE  CONSIDERED THE FIRST TRUE  FINANCIAL PLANNING THAT COULD  AID IN TIME, BUT THE POTENTIAL  PD STATION. I MUST SPEAK TO  THEM INCLUDING ITEM J  SPRING HAVEN CONNECTOR, THIS  IS NOT AN ITEM AFFECTED BY  HURRICANE PROJECT THAT WAS  FULLY REJECTED BY THE  COMMISSION YEARS PAST. THERE  ARE SEVERAL QUESTIONABLE  ASPECTS THAT THEN THE ASKED  ONE BEING THE REQUESTED AMOUNT  IS WELL THAT'S CALCULATED FOR  THE PROJECT 2 YEARS AGO WHEN  IT WAS REJECTED NOT A CURRENT  CALCULATED THEM OUT. THERE  WERE SEVERAL REASONS THAT THIS  PROJECT WAS REJECTED BY THE  COMMISSION AT THE TIME. BUT  THE MOST GLARING REASON WAS  THAT IT WOULD ONLY 8 6,000  RESIDENTS AT THE MOST BUCK  INSISTING. WELL COSTA MEANT  HIGHER RESIDENTS 6 MILLION.  THAT IS NOT AN APPROPRIATE OUR  LIFE OR THE INVESTMENT ANY  WASTE OF DOLLARS TO USE THE  EXCUSE THAT IT WOULD BE AN  ADDITIONAL EVACUATION ROUTE AS  OUTLANDISH. IT IS A HALF-MILE  PIECE OF BREAD THAT STARTS AND  ENDS ON THE VERY SAME OR THAT  ONE TRAVELS CURRENTLY IT DOES  NOT DO ANYTHING TO PROVIDE AN  EVACUATION ROUTE AT ALL THE  ROADS THAT. THIS CONNECTOR A  DRESS AND OUT OF THAT'S  FLOODED. SO HOW SOMEONE TO GET  THAT TO HALF MILE CONNECTOR  WHEN TRAVELING THE ROADS TO  GET THERE ARE IMPASSABLE THIS  COMMENT IS COMING FROM SOMEONE  WITHIN THAT 6,000 OF THIS ITEM  FROM THE REQUEST. AND IN  PERSON. WE HAVE ROBIN THAT  FOLLOWED BY CHECKING MUCH.  SOME DISSENTING. I CAN'T  BELIEVE CUSTOMS. THIS IS JUST  OUTRAGEOUS. FIRST OF ALL I  HAVE TO FIRST QUESTION HOW  THIS GOT THE CONSENT AGENDA IN  THE FIRST PLACE.  >> JUST SNEAK IT IN THEM AND  THEN GET THE REASON THAT WE  NEED TO ROAD. TO ME THAT'S  JUST SMELLY I DON'T LIKE IT I  DON'T LIKE THE WAY IT SMELLS.  DEVELOPER SKS HAS BEEN FINED  80 GRAND IN THE PAST BECAUSE  WE CALL CLEAR ILLEGALLY. HE  CHANCE TO PARK HE WANTS THOSE  30 PASSES BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO  END IT. THERE'S NO WAY THAT  THESE POSSIBLE SHOULD BE  DEVELOPED. I'M GOING TO GET  INTO THE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES  BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW ABOUT BOTH  SEEN THE PRESENTATIONS. AND  THE NATURAL RESOURCES DIVISION  HAS BEEN ON THIS AS WELL WE'VE  BEEN BRINGING IT TO THEIR  ATTENTION FOR YEARS NOW. I  JUST I'M SHOCKED THAT THIS IS  EVEN TRIED TO GET ON THE  CONSENT AGENDA. TO ME IT'S  SNEAKY. THAT SNEAKY WE CANNOT  EVEN ENTERTAIN THIS. THE  DOESN'T WANT TO SELL EMINENT  DOMAIN. THIS IS DEFINITELY ONE  OF THOSE INSTANCES THAT CAN  CALL FOR.  >> I'M GOING AGREE WITH JUST  ABOUT EVERYTHING'S BEEN SET UP  THERE SO FAR. THIS HAS BEEN OF  CRITICAL ISSUES. VERY LONG  TIME. THAT PROPERTY. POST BEN  AND WAS. MULTIPLE TIMES TO BE  PURCHASED AS PART OF ENTIRE.  TO CREEK WILDLIFE COURT. AND  WE KEEP. I THINK BECAUSE WE'RE  TICK CAN DOWN THE ROAD. WHEN  IT COMES TO COMPLETING THAT  CORRIDOR. SO MAYBE WE GOT THAT  HE IS AGGRESSIVE. WITH THIS  PROJECT AS YOU KNOW ECONOMIC  DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS. UTILIZE  COURSE OF ACTION. THAT MAY BE  BEST TO COMPLETE THE QUARTER.  AND VERSUS ATLANTA. AND  UTILIZE AND I HATE TO SAY IT,  BUT UTILIZE EMINENT DOMAIN.  AND USING TREE FUND MONEY TO  PURCHASE THAT LAND. ALL RIGHT.  >> SO.  >> I'M LOOKING FOR MOTION  COMMISSIONER MACAU MAKE A  MOTION WHY MY LIGHTS ON. I  MAKE A MOTION TO INSTRUCT THE  CITY MANAGER TO REMOVED THE  REZONING TO SEARCH YOU  APPLICATION FROM SPRING HAVEN  PROJECT.  >> AND THE AMOUNT OF  >> 5 MILLION 945 THOUSAND  DOLLARS. SECOND OKAY, WE HAVE  A MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER  MCDOWELL TO THE MOVIE  APPLICATION TO THE RESILIENT  SRQ COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT  BLOCK GRANT DISASTER RECOVERY  PROGRAM. AND THE AMOUNT OF  5 MILLION 945 THOUSAND DOLLARS  FOR THE SPRING HAVEN ROADWAY  EXPANSION PROJECT AND THAT WAS  SECONDED BY VICE MAYORS. SO  NOTHING ELSE WE WILL DO A  VOICE. I MEAN YES. MAYOR WHITE  IS THAT YES COMMISSIONER  LANGDON YES. THEY CUT DOWN,  YES. COMMISSIONER EMRICH.  >> I MEAN YES AND THANK YOU  ALL.  >> ALL RIGHT SO THAT PASSES  CHOOSE MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS  ALL RIGHT LIKE MAKE SO NO  REASONS. YEAH, I GUESS. I'D  LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT.  THE PRODUCT. THE PROPOSED  PROJECT SPRING GAVE AND  ROADWAY EXPANSION COME BACK  OR. DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE  ACTION. A DIFFERENT  DISCUSSION. SECOND FOR  DISCUSSION, YEAH. LEAD LOOKING  AT THE CITY GOOD.  >> DO SURE THEY WERE TRYING TO  READ ONE ANOTHER'S MINES AND  I'M WONDERING IF MAYOR IS  THINKING IS THIS APPROPRIATE  THIS WAS NOT ON THE AGENDA YET  SO I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY  PROBLEM WITH THE BOARD VOTING  TO PUT SOMETHING THAT AS LONG  AS WE DON'T GET INTO THE  MERITS OF THE ISSUE WITH THIS  POINT YOU KNOW IF YOU SAY  RIGHT AND WHAT JUST WANT TO BE  WE WEREN'T  >> READING ON ICE THERE THAT  WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY.  >> ICE PIERCE THOSE TO PUT  THIS SPRING EVEN. WHEN DID YOU  THIS PROPOSED SPRING HAVEN  ROADWAY EXPANSION PROJECT. UP  SHORT DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE  ACTION. I THINK WE NEED THAT'S  MY MOTION. WE NEED TO ADDRESS  ONE WAY OR THE OTHER WE NEED  TO. DEAL WITH THIS OKAY AND  THAT WAS AFFECTING IT. AND  AGAIN A SECOND. DO COMMISSION  FOR DISCUSSION THAT. AND DO WE  HAVE IT I HAVE SPECIAL IT  THEY'RE FULL. WE JUST VOTED  AND YEAH.  >> DISCUSSING WELL I DON'T  WANT  >> SECOND DID IT FOR  DISCUSSION. BECAUSE YOU WANT  TO BRING IT BACK FOR AN AGENDA  ITEM TO DISCUSS FRIDAY.  SPRING HAVEN EXTENSION  PROJECT. BUT I AM. CAUTIOUS  THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE  DISCUSSING RESURRECTING THIS  PROJECT BECAUSE IF THAT'S WHAT  WE'RE ULTIMATELY GOING TO BE  DOING THE KNOW I DON'T. I JUST  WANT TO MAKE SURE.  >> YES AND ALL OKAY JUST DON'T  WANT TO CAUSE A CITY ATTORNEY  I MY ATTENTION ALL RIGHT.  MARCH.  >> YEAH, I MEAN I'M NOT GOING  TO TRY AND GET IN THE WEEDS ON  THIS BUT IT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP  MULTIPLE TIMES AND IT'S IT'S A  DEAD ISSUE AS IT SITS RIGHT  NOW SO WHY BRING IT UP AND  REHASHED AGAIN.  >> I THINK I HAVE AN IDEA OF  WHAT I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IF  RISING AGENDA YEAH SO.  >> I THINK IT'S TO YEAH. ALL  OKAY SO NOTHING ELSE. VICE  MAYOR YES, OR WHY DOES THE S  COMMISSIONER LANGDON IS YES.  >> SO YES, SURE AVERAGE.  >> I'LL GO YES FOR HOPEFULLY  THAT'S A GOOD DAY AND  DISCUSSION WHEN WE ALL DO IT  AGAIN. YEAH THAT'S YOUR YOUR  TIME TO TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU  WANT TO SEE DONE. OKAY. THANK  YOU. GOOD DISCUSSION. SO  >> THESE ARE ALL THANK THANK  >> LAST ALL RIGHT SO THERE'S A  LOT OF THINGS ON THE DOWN TO  NOW WE'RE UP TO ITEM 5 WHICH  IS A PRESENTATION. MANAGER  THIS YOUR ITEM.  >> THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR, THIS  IS BEEN TAKEN BY ALAN TIME  DIRECTIVE FAMED IT DISCUSSION  AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING  THE TRAFFIC TO IT WAY PAST THE  POINT.  >> THANK YOU MISTER MANAGER  AND GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE,  PLEASED TO BE HERE TONIGHT TO  PRESENT TO YOU SOME DRAFT  FINDINGS FROM THIS PROJECT.  YES, SHE HAS BEEN COMMISSIONED  BY THE CITY TO CONDUCT THIS  MASTER PLANNING EFFORT. WHAT  ART ALONG THE 13 MEMBER  APPLIED SCIENCES. THIS IS THE  CULMINATION OF A FIRST PHASE  OF WORK THIS PROJECT IS MOVING  VERY QUICKLY. WE'RE WORKING  UNDER A STATE GRANT PROVIDE  SOME OF THE FUNDING TO SUPPORT  THIS PROJECT ARE MOVING  THROUGH SOME VERY FAST  DEADLINE WHICH INCLUDE GETTING  THIS PROJECT READY FOR  ACCEPTANCE NEXT MONTH IN  TRANSMITTAL TO THE STATE. THE  STATE HAS CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS  AND DISCO JUST TO ANALYZE LAND  USE IN AREAS AND PROVIDE SOME  STORM OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS  AND THERE'S DETAILED SET OF  RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE  PROBING PRODUCE REALLY ABOVE  AND BEYOND WITH THE STATE IS  REQUIRING WORKING CURRENTLY SO  THIS IS SNAPSHOT OF WHERE WE  ARE AND HOPEFULLY A GOOD ONE  OF DISCUSSION FOR THE GROUP  HERE. GIVE YOU TONIGHT A SENSE  OF THE STATUS IN THE CONTEXT,  THE PROJECT TALK ABOUT SOME OF  OUR ASSESSMENT FINDINGS  INTRODUCE THE LAND USE IN  AREAS TO YOU AND THEN GO OVER  SOME NEXT STEPS. WE HAVE BEEN  DOING A COUPLE OF THINGS ONE  IS INCLUDING STAFF AND  STAKEHOLDER ART CONSULTANT  TEAM HAS BEEN WORKING VERY  CLOSELY WITH STAFF. WE'VE HAD  SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH SOME  OF THE LANDOWNERS IN THE AREA  AND THIS MEETING TONIGHT IS A  PART OF THIS PROCESS OF  ENGAGING STAKEHOLDERS TALKING  TO YOU AND RECEIVING FEEDBACK  FROM THE SPORT. WE PRODUCED AN  ASSESSMENT REPORT THAT GOES  INTO THE ISSUES AND  OPPORTUNITIES OUT THERE, I'VE  DONE COMPLETE STORM WATER  EVALUATION. NOW DRAFTED THIS  MASTER PLAN AND YOU SHOULD BE  FUN THERE WITH THESE ITEMS  WHICH WERE INCLUDED IN THE  THIS IS A MASTER PLAN THAT  COVERS MANY DIFFERENT TOPICS,  IT PART OF THIS IS AN  ASSESSMENT OF MARKET DEMAND  AND WIND SUITABILITY SO SOME  FACTORS THAT THE REALLY  DOESN'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF  CONTROL OVER. WE'VE LOOKED AT  THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS AREA  AND WHAT TYPES OF THINGS MIGHT  WANT TO BE BUILT THERE WAS PUT  IT THAT WAY IN TERMS OF MARKET  TO MEN AND ALSO THE LAND IT SO  AND THEN OF COURSE IMMERSED  HERSELF IN TOPICS OF HAZARD  MITIGATION ENVIRONMENTAL  STEWARDSHIP. THIS AREA, THE  CITY IS ONE OF THE WORST  FLOODED AREAS AFTER IN THE  WAKE OF THE HURRICANE. SO  WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A  WAY TO REALLY BALANCE THE  DEMAND THAT'S OUT THERE FOR OR  BUILDING THINGS AND THEN THE  ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP AND  THE HAZARD MITIGATION GOES  WITH IT. IT'S A TOUGH SET OF  ISSUES AND NEW YORK ARE MORE  ABOUT THAT THROUGH THAT. BUT  THEN THOSE IN THE DARK BLUE AT  THE BOTTOM OF THE THINGS THAT  THE CITY REALLY DOES HAVE A  LOT OF CONTROL OVER YOUR IN  THE PROCESS OF UPDATING  DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS AND  THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN AND  THOSE THINGS RUNNING PARALLEL  WITH SOME OF THE MARKET DEMAND  THAT'S OUT THERE SO THE  REGULATIONS ARE LINING VERY  WELL WITH BUT WHAT THE VISION  IS COMING TOGETHER BUT ALSO  WITH THE MARKETS CREATING AND  THEN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AS  WELL WHERE THERE'S SOME SO THE  INITIATIVES ALREADY IN PLACE  LIKE EXPANDING INFRASTRUCTURE  AND INVESTING PREPARATION FOR  THE HOSPITAL COMING. AND THEN  OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE  INVESTMENT LIKE PARKS TRAILS  TRANSPORTATION AND OTHER TYPES  OF STORMWATER FACILITIES THAT  ARE PART OF THIS PROJECT. THIS  IS THE GATEWAY ACTIVITY CENTER  IN THESE THIS IS A MAP OF ALL  OF THE CITY'S ACTIVITIES THAT  ARE SHOWN IN PINK. AND THIS  ONE IS AT THE INTERCHANGE OF  SUMTER BOULEVARD THEY'RE SHOWN  NUMBER 3 POINTING THE LITTLE  POINTER OF TOUGH THE MAP OR I  75 INTERSECT SUMTER BOULEVARD.  YOU JUST SOME PICTURES FROM  THE PAST IF YOU HEARD TO AND  ENGAGE WITH THERE WERE SEVERAL  INSTANCES OF FAILURES OUT IN  THIS AREA WHICH INCLUDED  NEIGHBORHOOD FLOODING. YOU  NEED FOR EMERGENCY RESCUE  FAILURE OF OF MANMADE  INFRASTRUCTURE AND STREET  FLOODING AS WELL THAT MARKED  THE STORM AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT  THE FLOOD ZONE MAP YOU SEE  THAT THERE'S NO SURPRISE ABOUT  WHY THAT HAPPENED WHAT YOU'RE  LOOKING AT THE MAP ON THE LEFT  IS A 100 YEAR FLOOD ZONES. YOU  SEE THE CURRENT ACTIVITIES  CENTER IN BLACK LINES SHOW IN  THERE. THAT'S THE CORE OF IT  AT THE INTERCHANGE THERE OUR  STUDY AREA SHOWN THE LARGER  DASH LINES AND THE MAJORITY OF  THE LAND IN THIS AREA IS  WITHIN THE 100 YEAR FLOODS AND  WE NEED TO BE COGNIZANT OF  THAT THERE ARE SOME AREAS  WHERE IT'S A LITTLE BIT UP UP  UPLAND ISH TO SAY HIGH AND DRY  WOULD BE AN EXAGGERATION BUT  THERE ARE AREAS THAT ARE IN  THE FLOOD ZONE AND YOU SEE  THAT. THIS IS A MAP EXISTING  LAND USE WHERE WE CATEGORIZE  THE LAND A DIFFERENT AREAS YOU  SEE. I HAVE MYAKKA HACHI CREEK  THERE TO THE LEFT IN THE  GREEN, THAT IS THE 3 CORRIDOR.  SO OUR STUDY AREA INCLUDES THE  CREEK THE NEIGHBORHOODS  IMMEDIATELY TO THE EAST AND  THEN THAT CORE AREA THAT IS  VACANT. COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.  ONE THING I WANT YOU TO NOTICE  ON THIS MAP IN THE  NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE ORANGE  ARE PLATTED LOTS THAT ARE NOT  DEVELOPED WHEN YOU SEE YELLOW  THAT MEANS HOUSES AND BUILT  THERE ON ARE A LOT. YOU CAN  SEE THE PATTERN OF DEVELOPMENT  HERE THAT IN WESTERN SEGMENT  OF THE STUDY AREA A LOT FEWER  HOMES HAVE BEEN BUILT AND IF  YOU HAVE SPENT ANY TIME  DRIVING BACK THERE IT'S A VERY  UNDERDEVELOPED ART. THE CITY  AND PEOPLE FEEL A LITTLE  ISOLATED BACTERIA NOW. PART OF  THE CITY AND WHERE THERE WAS.  THEY'RE NOT IN THE FLOOD ZONE  IN THE SOUTHEAST QUADRANT IN  PARTICULAR EASTERN SEGMENTS OF  THIS AREA YOU SEE A LOT MORE  INFILL DEVELOPMENT AND  RESIDENTIAL HAS HAPPENED IN  THOSE AREAS NATURALLY. AND  THEN THE DRAFT FUTURE LAND USE  THIS IS A MAP DEPICTING THE  PROPOSED THAT ARE NOW BEING  CONSIDERED BY THE CITY TO  EXTEND THE. ACTIVITY CENTER  AREA TO THE NORTH SO YOU SEE  NORTH OF E DARK LIKE LINE  GOING UP SUMTER BOULEVARD  THERE'S A PROPOSAL TO EXTEND  ACTIVITY CENTER AND TO THE  SOUTHWEST IN THIS QUADRANT  CHANGED THIS TO HIGH-DENSITY  CORRIDOR MIXED USE DESIGNATION  WHICH ALLOWS FOR DIFFERENT  TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT WITH THE  INTENTION OF SOME OF THAT AREA  IN TRANSITION FROM THE  NEIGHBORHOOD CLADDING THAT  CURRENTLY EXIST SOME OTHER  USES. OUR FINDINGS INCLUDE  LOOKING AT THESE DIFFERENT  AREAS IN TERMS OF TYPOLOGY THE  COURT ACTIVITY CENTER OPEN  SOME TIME TALKING ABOUT THE  SCENARIOS THAT WERE DEVELOPED  THERE BUT SHOWN IN THE BLUE TO  THE NORTH OF THE ACTIVITY  CENTER IS AN EXISTING PRIVATE  NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S IT'S I'M  NOT VERY WELL DEVELOPED. WE  DID HAVE SOME FINDINGS OUT  THERE IS ANCIENT LAKE. IT'S  IT'S IN THIS AREA OF OF THE  CITY THAT IS OF COURSE NO  LONGER THERE. WHERE LAKES  WHERE THAT'S DEFINITELY LOWMAN  ENVIRONMENT SO THIS NORTHERN  AREA, NOT ONLY HAS WAS OWNED.  THERE'S HUMAN REMAINS AND  ARTIFACTS IN THIS AREA OF THIS  LAKE INCIDENTALLY UNDISTURBED  FOUND SO THAT'S ANOTHER ISSUE  THAT'S UP THERE IN THAT PART  OF. THIS PLAN THE RESIDENTIAL  NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE EAST SHOWN  IN MAGENTA IS RELATIVELY  STABLE IN OUR GOAL THERE IS TO  CONNECT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. THE  COURT ACTIVITY CENTER AND MAKE  SURE THAT THE STRICT POLLUTION  ISSUES ARE WORKING TO THE  AREA. AND THEN TO THE  SOUTHWEST THE MIXED USE AREA  WHICH HAS A LOT OF THE  FLOODING DAMAGE IN THE MOST  PRONOUNCED FLOODING DAMAGE  WHERE WE REALLY WANT TO FOCUS  SOME ATTENTION ON.  TRANSITIONING THAT INSISTING  AREA. THERE ARE 5 PRIMARY  LARGE PARCELS IN THE AREA OF  THE INTERCHANGE BIG COMMERCIAL  PARCEL SOON BLUE ARE QUITE  LARGE AND THEN THE FUTURE  HOSPITAL PERSONAL SHOWN IN THE  DARK BLUE DOT THAT'S WHERE  THAT'S GOING TO GO IN THE  SOUTHEAST QUADRANT. THERE.  THIS MAP SHOWS ENVIRONMENTAL  CONDITIONS IN IT. AND IN  ADDITION TO THE FLOOD FLOOD  ZONES THERE ARE ACTUAL  WETLANDS IN. SOME PRISTINE  NATURAL ENVIRONMENTS OUT HERE.  THAT ENVIRONMENTAL LANDSCAPE  WAS DISTURBED BY THE PLANNING  OF ALL OF THESE PARCELLS BUT  YOU CAN SEE IN THE VACANT  PARCELS THE NUMEROUS. ON  WETLAND AREAS THAT ARE OUT  THERE. THAT ARE PART OF THIS  AND THEN OF COURSE THE CREEK  BED AS WELL AS A FEW OF YOU  CAN SEE THE PONDING THIS SORT  OF THE HUMAN-MADE RESPONSE TO  STORM WATER MANAGEMENT IN 2  LARGE PONDS TO THE NORTH AND  THEN AROUND THE INTERCHANGE  AND SUMTER BOULEVARD BUT YOU  SEE A DISTINCT LACK OF THAT  SORT OF TREATMENT OF STORM  WATER SO THERE'S REALLY NO  STORM WATER INFRASTRUCTURE TO  SPEAK UP EXCEPT FOR THE SWELLS  IN MINOR CONDITIONS THAT EXIST  DOWN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND JUST  NOT ADEQUATE TO ADDRESS  LOCALIZED WORK THIS IS AN  EXAMPLE OF THAT WHERE YOU ONE  OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ROADS  WHICH IS ELEVATED ABOVE GRADE  AND YOU SEE THE HOUSES HAVE  THIS RIDGE TREATMENT AS WELL  EVERYTHING'S BUILT UP A LITTLE  BIT TO AVOID FLOODING TO THE  MAXIMUM SET FEASIBLE AND YOU  SEE AN EXAMPLE THERE THE SWELL  ON THE RIGHT WHICH IS THE WAY  THIS IS DESIGNED TO CARRY  WATER AROUND NEIGHBORHOOD AND  MITIGATES ON WATER. WE ALSO  LOOK AT INFRASTRUCTURE, THIS  IS SUMTER BOULEVARD THERE ARE  SOME CONDITION ISSUES AND SOME  GAPS OUT THERE THAT WE INTEND  TO FOR THIS PROJECT. AND THEN  THE LAND WE HAD A TEAM THAT  DID THE SURVEY OF THESE  PROPERTIES AND WILL NOT LOOK  AT THIS TO YOU THEY'RE 5  CONDITIONS TO LOOK AT THE  SOULS THE WETLANDS MAPS TO SEE  WHAT WAS OUT THERE AND AND TO  DETERMINE OPPORTUNITIES FOR  CONSERVATION. FOR FOR  DEVELOPMENT AND OTHER TYPES OF  USES THEY'RE OUT THERE AND  THERE'S SOME VERY PRISTINE AND  WONDERFUL. PLACES TO VISIT OUT  THERE AND PEOPLE ARE VISITING  THERE ISN'T A DAY THERE'S A  LOT OF OUR VIEW RIDING AND  HIKING AND THINGS LIKE THAT  IT'S A RECREATION AREA HELPS  IN SOME SPOTS. AND THEN ON TO  OUR LAND USE IN AREAS WE  DEVELOP IN THE IN THE MASTER  PLAN SEVERAL GUIDING  PRINCIPLES WE WANTED TO ENSURE  THAT AS WE WERE ANALYZING  ALTERNATIVES THAT WE'RE  LOOKING AT ECONOMIC FOCUSING  ON MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, THE  SPURS. JOB FORMATION VISITOR  SERVICES PUBLIC SERVICES FOR  RESIDENTS. PLACEMAKING ASPECT  IS IMPORTANT AND WE HAVEN'T  QUITE GOTTEN THERE YET.  CREATING A COHESIVE GATE  DISTRICT VISION THAT  ESTABLISHES A SENSE OF PLACE.  NO WELCOMING PLACE AND ALSO  THERE'S SOME IDEAS FOR HOW  THAT DEVELOPMENT MAYBE A  DESTINATION IN AND OF ITSELF.  TRANSPORTATION AND PROVING THE  MULTI-MODAL CONNECTIVITY IN  EXCESS THROUGHOUT THE CENTER  AND THEN FLED MITIGATION OF  COURSE AS DISCUSSED LOOKING AT  STROLLER IMPACTS LOOKING AT  HOW TO MITIGATE THEM IN HAVE  SOME LAND OPENED UP FOR  DEVELOPMENT AS A. WE HAD  DINNER WORK SOME EXAMPLES OF  SOME HOSPITALS. THIS IS THE  EAST GEORGIA OR REGIONAL  HOSPITAL IN STATESBORO GEORGIA  TOWN, I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH.  BUT YOU CAN SEE ON THE RIGHT  THE AFTER CONDITION OF THE  HOSPITAL BEING BUILT THERE.  THIS THIS IS THE A 150 THAT  HOSPITALS A SLIGHTLY BIGGER  THAN THE ONE THAT'S BEING  PLANNED. FOR PORT. BUT YOU CAN  SEE WHERE I CAN POINT  ACTIVELY. THE HOSPITAL SITE  BEING CONSTRUCTED AND THE  HOSPITAL AS YOU CAN TRY ON  THIS ROAD RIGHT HERE. YOU CAN  SEE THIS SHAPING. HERE'S FULLY  FILLED IN WITH. WALMART  MCDONALD'S. I THINK THE  HOSPITAL MADE STATES FOR A  TRIPLE A COMMUNITY WITH  THERE'S DOCTORS OFFICES  DENTISTS OFFICES, HOUSING ALL  KINDS OF THINGS THAT GOT  DEVELOPED AROUND THIS HOSPITAL  AND WE'VE REFERRED TO THIS AS  HOSPITAL ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT.  HOSPITALS BARONE LOTS OF  INTEREST DEVELOPMENT PODS AND  OTHER TYPES OF THINGS AND A  RETAIL RESIDENTIAL OFFICE AND  THE HAPPENED OUT THERE THERE'S  GREAT DEMAND FOR IT. YOU CAN  SEE THAT THIS IS A FAIRLY  BLAND HUNGRY DEVELOPMENT AND  THAT IT'S KIND OF SPREAD OUT  AND IT CAN TAKE A LOT OF LAND  AND DEMAND A LOT OF THINGS AND  LOOKING AT THIS HOSPITAL YOU  CAN KNOW THAT. 4, 5, TIMES AS  MUCH DEVELOPMENT OUT THERE IS  JUST THE HOSPITAL ITSELF  THERE'S A LOT OF NOT CON.  INVESTMENT THAT'S MADE IN THE  SERIES. I WOULD EXPECT  DIFFERENT HAPPENING NOW A  MONTH SUMTER BOULEVARD  INTERCHANGE IF THERE'S LAND  AVAILABLE TO DO IT AND THE  ECONOMICS WORK AND THERE'S  ENOUGH PLACES TO PUT. IF  UNPLANNED AND JUST SORT OF  LEFT TO ITS OWN DEVICES. I  THINK YOU END UP GETTING AN  AUTO ARENA, HIGHWAY OR IN IT  PLACE ITS NOT ALWAYS THE MOST  FUN PLACE TO VISIT IF  SOMETHING DIFFERENT IS GOING  TO HAPPEN BE ESPECIALLY  BECAUSE AT THE INTERCHANGE  THAT'S GOING TO NEED TO BE  TAILORED A LITTLE BIT FROM A  DESIGN POINT OF VIEW TO GET  SOMETHING THAT'S YOU REALLY  ARE PROUD OF OR THAT'S  FABULOUS OTHERWISE YOU'RE  LOOKING AT ANOTHER MCDONALD'S  OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT  HAPPENING SO SO THERE'S SOME  CONSIDERATIONS AND THE  IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS. THERE  IMPORTANT TOO KEEP IN MIND.  MOVING ON TO OUR THIS IS WHEN  YOU CALL THE HOSPITAL OR IN  DEVELOPMENT THIS WAS INTENDED  TO SHOW. WHAT KIND OF USES  COULD BE OUT THERE THAT  HAPPENED AS A FUNCTION OF THE  HOSPITAL OR SUPPORT THE  HOSPITAL. LOCAL ECONOMY. WE  HAVE A HOTEL IN SOME RETAIL.  WE PUT SENIOR HOUSING IN THE  MIX BECAUSE WE FEEL LIKE THAT  WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD  BE VERY LOGICAL THING TO DO UP  HERE AND OTHER MEDICAL OFFICE  AND LARGE OFFICE BUILDINGS. WE  DID AN EVALUATION ON THE  BOTTOM TO COMPARE THESE. LOOK  AT THOSE GUIDING PRINCIPLES  THAT I'VE TALKED ABOUT AND  SOME OTHER FACTORS. AND THIS  ONE IS SUPER HIGH ECONOMIC  DEVELOPMENT THAT BECAUSE OF  LAND AVAILABILITY IN THE BILL  THE BILITY OF AREAS WE PUT  THIS AT VERY LOW IN BURMA  RESPONSIVENESS AND DEVELOPMENT  FEASIBILITY I DON'T THINK IT'S  FEASIBLE FOR EVERY QUADRANT OF  THIS. INTERCHANGE TO BUILD OUT  QUICKLY AND THAT HAS TO DO  WITH INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUES AND  THE CHALLENGE ON WATER  MITIGATION AND TO SOME DEGREE  MARKET DEMAND. BUT IT'S REALLY  THE SOUTHERN AND AND THE SO  THE 75 WHERE THERE'S THE MOST  VOCAL BLAND AVAILABILITY AND  THE MOST MARK THE MEN WE PLACE  ON THAT BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING  ABOUT THE HOSPITAL LAND THE  ADJACENT PARCEL TO THE  NORTHEAST. AND PROPERTY CROSS  STREET. FROM SUMTER BOULEVARD.  WE ALSO LOOKED AT OTHER  SCENARIO IS THIS THE SECOND  ONE IS RECREATION AND  CONSERVATION. RIGHT NOW THERE  IS NO PLAN TO EXTEND WATER AND  75.  >> ALONG SUMTER BOULEVARD AND  SO AND THERE THOSE NON THE  PARCELS ARE 100% IN THE FLOOD  ZONE. THEY ALSO PART OF THEM  IN THE AREA THAT NEEDS THAT A  LOT OF WORK GOES I WAS  MENTIONING AND SO THEY'RE VERY  DIFFICULT TO DEVELOP FULLY  DEVELOP SITES. WE STARTED  LOOKING AT NATURAL  CONSERVATION AND RECREATION AS  POTENTIAL USES IN THIS  SCENARIO, HAVING NATURAL PARK.  THAT'S VISIBLE THAT GIVES YOU  ACCESS TO THE THE CREEK AND A  PLANNED REMAIN THAT'S OUT  THERE IN A PLACE FOR PEOPLE  LOCALS TO VISIT AND THEN  POTENTIALLY OUTDOOR RECREATION  OR ATHLETIC FIELDS THAT COULD  AND ATHLETIC FIELD ATHLETIC.  ENTERTAINMENT TYPE OF VENUE.  >> THAT IS WE CAN WE WE SHOULD  REALLY AGREE TO EXTEND  GENTLEMAN'S TIME THANK BECAUSE  THAT'S WHAT I HAD MY LIGHT ON  FOR YOUNG.  >> YOU THINK 10 MINUTES.  >> I WILL BE DONE IN AMEND OR  SO 2 MINUTES, YEAH.  >> WE EXTEND TIME 5 MINUTES  PLEASE.  >> THAT WAS WAS ORIGINAL TIME  AHEAD TO ME THAT'S OK. ALL  RIGHT WE'RE GOING DO THIS ALL  THE TIME, YOU OFF YOUR WITH A  HAT 5 MINUTES AND DO NEED A  CONSENSUS OR. I'M GOOD I'M  >> IT COMMISSIONER EMERICH  OKAY WITH THAT.  >> YES, I'M GOOD.  >> OK THANK THANK SORRY TO  THROW YOU OFF THANK PROCEED  YOU COULD START FROM THE TOP  ON THIS PAGE BECAUSE I WAS  VERY DISTRACTED. I'M SORRY.  >> OK BECAUSE OF THE NORTHERN  >> SECTION HAS HAS VERY FEW  MBD  >> PROSPECTS FOR TRADITIONAL,  SO BERMAN TYPE DEVELOPMENT, WE  LOOKED AT PHASING IN THAT OR  MAKING THAT A RECREATION AREA,  A NATURAL PART DOWN BY THE  CREEK WHICH GIVES YOU ACCESS  OF THE CREEK. TRAIL THE CREEK  AND POTENTIALLY OUTDOOR  RECREATION FACILITY THAT COULD  BE FIELDS OR SOMETHING MIXED  WITH THE ON THE SOUTHWEST OF  MORE DEVELOPED ATHLETIC FIELD  INDOOR RECREATION, OR  SOMETHING THAT HAS A REAL DRAW  TO WIN IN TERMS OF A REGIONAL  ATHLETIC FACILITY. THOSE TYPES  OF THINGS ARE COMMON AND CAN  CREATE A LOT ECONOMIC  DEVELOPMENT VISITATION ECONOMY  AND THAT SORT OF THING CAN  MATCH UP WITH SOME HOSPITAL  USES AS WELL IN TERMS OF WAS A  SHUNS OF. OF MEDICINE. AND  THEN WE THEN WE LOOKED AT  OTHER TYPES USES HERE WE HAVE  A MIXED USE CONCEPT IN THE  SOUTH A WONDER WHICH IS MORE  OF A WELL COUPLE DESTINATION  PLACE. THERE IS ENOUGH ROOM  THERE TO BUILD A LITTLE MANY  TOWN CENTER IF YOU WILL THAT'S  GOT RESTAURANTS, SHOPS AND  RETAIL, AND THAT SORT OF  THING. THAT COULD BE KEEP  COMBINED WITH OTHER TYPES OF  USES ON THE NORTHERN SIDE  WHICH WOULD BE MORE OF AN  ACTIVE OUTDOOR RECREATION  WHICH WOULD INCLUDE THINGS  LIKE RV CAMPING OR GLAMPING  ONE OF THESE SUBDIVISIONS THAT  YOU SEE THAT ARE MORE  DEVELOPED AND ACTIVE OUTDOOR  RECREATION URBAN EXPERIENCE  WILL PLACE TO VISIT OUT THERE.  AND I'M GOING TOWARDS THE END  HERE WE WE DID WE WERE CHARGED  WITH LOOKING AT HOW THE  NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE SOUTHWEST  COULD BE ULTIMATELY CONVERTED  IDENTIFY THIS AREA OF THAT  PART OF THE ARE PLANNING AREA  WHICH IS NOT IN THE FLOOD  ZONE, BUT YOU SEE IS LIKE  THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE AND  THAT AREA COULD EXPAND THE  SOUTHWEST PROJECT BY UP TO  ABOUT 20 ACRES OF BUILDABLE  AREA AT SOME POINT IN EITHER  OF THE PERSONAL OR THIS  EXPANDED AREA. WE NEED TO BE  SOME STORMWATER MANAGEMENT  FACILITY SOME PONDS WOULD BE  NEED TO BE CITED LARGE ONE.  THIS COULD TURN INTO SEVERAL  DEVELOPMENT PUTTS IT MIGHT BE  SOMETHING THAT THE CITY WOULD  INVOLVEMENT IN TO ORCHESTRATE  OR OTHERWISE HELP FACILITATE.  THIS YEAR USE OF THOSE  DIFFERENT FACILITY THROUGH  SOME AGREEMENTS OR OTHER TYPES  MEASURES. NEXT STEPS INCLUDE  COMPLETING THE REFINING  RECOMMENDATIONS WE HAVE A  WHOLE LIST OF RECOMMENDATIONS  FOR TRANSPORTATION FOR PARKS  AND RECREATION FOR. I'M NOT  FOR POLICY BECAUSE THAT'S ON  THE ON THE RIGHT TRACK  ACCORDING TO WHAT'S HAPPENING.  I'M CURRENTLY AND THEN  POTENTIALLY SOME ECONOMIC  DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIES TO OPEN  UP SOME OF THIS AREA FOR  DEVELOPMENT AND THEN WE'LL  FINALIZE THE LAND USE STRATEGY  AND HAVE A GAME PLAN. WE DON'T  WANT TO TELL PEOPLE WHAT TO DO  ON THEIR PROPERTY WHAT WE DO  WANT TO DO IS IDENTIFY  EVERYTHING THE CITY CAN DO TO  PREPARE THIS AREA THE NEW  DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL BE  COMING IN HOSPITAL AND  ASSOCIATED USES AND THEN  CREATE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN  THAT SHOWS HOW THOSE  IMPROVEMENTS CAN BE MADE FOR  TIME THAT ADDRESS  ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES AS WELL  AS INFRASTRUCTURE, AS WELL THE  ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SO THAT  CONCLUDES MY WE DID WITH YOU.  >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY  MUCH. AND JUST TO CLARIFY  THAT. THE COMMISSION GAVE  DIRECTION. PRESENTATION TO  DRAFT THIS MASTER PLAN BACK IN  APRIL 2023. SO THANK YOU  COMING BACK AND PRESENTING IT  TO US AND I HAVE COMMISSIONER  LANGDON YOU I THANK YOU MAYOR.  AND AWFUL LOT OF INFORMATION.  >> AND NOT AND MY IMMEDIATE  AREA OF EXPERTISE SO I HAVE  SOME REALLY BASIC QUESTIONS. I  I KNOW ONE OF MY MAJOR  CONCERNS OR BUT I REALLY WANT  TO GET OUT THIS MASTER PLAN  WAS SOME LEVEL OF ASSURANCE  THAT THAT INTERCHANGE WOULD  NEVER FLOOD AGAIN BECAUSE OUR  INTENTION IS TO HAVE A  HOSPITAL THERE.  >> CAN CAN YOU REVIEW WITH ME  WHAT THE DRAINAGE  RECOMMENDATIONS ARE FOR THIS  AREA.  >> YES, THE HOSPITAL IS DOING  ITS OWN SITE DEVELOPMENT AND  MANAGE OWN STORMWATER AND  MITIGATING ITS OWN RISK AND  SHOULD BE FINE BECAUSE OF ALL  OF THAT WITHOUT ANY ADDITIONAL  PUBLIC INTERVENTION. OTHER  PARTS OF. THE AREA THERE IN  THE FLOOD ZONE THAT ARE THAT  ARE AT RISK OF SOME. SIMILAR  EVENT HAPPENING IN THE FUTURE  AND THERE WERE BIG  RECOMMENDATION. THE CITY STUDY  THIS IN THE PAST. THERE ARE  SOME STUDIES OUT THERE THAT  RECOMMEND. THE CREEK WITH A  WITHIN SMITH, ANOTHER FACILITY  TO DIVERT WATER AND HELP DO  THAT IT'S A VERY EXPENSIVE  PROPOSITION. THERE'S THE IDEA  OF FILLING IN THE LAKE WHICH  IS ANOTHER AND YES ANOTHER YOU  CAN IMAGINE CREATING A NEW  LAKE NORTH OF THE AREA TO  CAPTURE ALL THE WATER BEFORE  IT GETS DOWN THERE AND FLOODS  EVERYTHING WHICH WOULD BE VERY  EFFECTIVE BUT ALSO US OF A  SCALE THAT'S YOUR TO FOREIGN  DETERMINED HOW MANY BIG OF AND  THEN THE 3RD DOING LITTLE  THINGS ALONG THE WAY TO MANAGE  STORM WATER ON IN THE ISOLATED  AREAS. THERE'S NO AMOUNT OF  LITTLE THINGS THAT ONE CAN DO  OUT THERE MITIGATE AGAINST THE  100 YEAR FLOOD RISK IN THE  FLOOD PLAIN, SOMETHING BIG HAS  TO HAPPEN OR THAT AREA HAS TO  BE TURNED BACK BACK TO NATURE  BACK TO CONSERVATION. SO THE  BIGGER TICKET ITEMS HAVE BEEN  STUDIED IN OUR IDENTIFIED, BUT  IT NEEDS TO BE IT'S NOT  SOMETHING THAT THIS COMMUNITY  SAID HEY LET'S GO DO THAT AND  YOU WOULD WANT TO DO THAT ONLY  IF AND OUT IN TERMS OF THE  ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OUTFALL  AND THE MITIGATION OF PLUS THE  MITIGATION OF RISK IN THE  BENEFITS OF THAT THAT COME  FROM THAT I'M NOT SURE THAT  PENCE THOSE BIGGER INVESTMENTS  REALLY PENCIL OUT AND YOU ALL  HAVEN'T DONE THEM YET SO THAT  SHOULD TELL YOU SOMETHING AS  WELL THAT AND IF YOU'RE NOT  DANCING.  >> I UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN THE  HOSPITAL GOES AND THEY'LL BE  RESPONSIBLE FOR.  >> MITIGATING.  >> THEIR OWN DRAINAGE SO THAT  THAT PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT  DOESN'T IMPACT SURROUNDING  AREAS. BUT WITH NO DEVELOPMENT  THAT EXCHANGE FLOODED AND  FLOOD. 75.  >> SO.  >> ASIDE FROM.  >> ANY DEVELOPMENT OR NO  DEVELOPMENT. HOW DO WE ADDRESS  THAT AREA.  >> BACK TO YOUR COMMENT NEVER  GETS FLOODED AGAIN WELL DO  THAT GETTING SOMEWHERE CLOSE  TO EXTREME LOOK NOW STORMWATER  PART NORTH OF THAT INTERCHANGE  HABITABLE STORM WATER.  >> OKAY SO I HAVE LIKE 3  QUESTIONS AT LEAST FOR THIS  AND NORTHEAST AND NORTHWEST  QUADRANTS. THE WEST. AND I  WOULD GUESS ENVIRONMENTALLY  SENSITIVE PARTICULARLY WHAT  YOU DESCRIBED AS THAT LAKE AND  THE NORTH WEST QUADRANT. THOSE  AREAS ARE TODAY BEING USED AS.  >> INFORMAL ARE UNCONTROLLED  RECREATIONAL AREA. SO I CAN  ONLY WONDER WHAT KIND OF  ENVIRONMENTAL DAMAGE MIGHT BE  GOING ON IN THOSE AREAS.  >> SO. BASED ON WHAT SOME UP  I'LL BE ASKING YOU TO. TALK ME  OFF THIS LET'S I NEED TO BE  TALKED OFTEN BUT WITH WHAT I  READ THOSE TO KNOW OTHER THAN  QUADRANTS I'M NOT PLANNING TO  BUILD ANYTHING THERE. I JUST  THINK IT'S TOO MUCH. AND THEN  THAT NORTH WEST QUADRANT. I  AND WAS THAT OPTION TOO I  THINK OPTION 2 WAS THE CLOSEST  WHAT I WAS THINKING BUT I  WOULD WANT THAT AREA NOT TO BE  A PARK. JUST LET IT BE NATURAL  AREA AND OR THAT NORTH EAST.  DO SOME ECO TOURISM KINDS OF  THINGS JUST TO CONTROL THE  RECREATION. SO THAT PEOPLE  AREN'T STOPPING.  >> I WANT PLAY IT SO. SO  ANYWAY THAT'S MORE CONCERNED  THAN A QUESTION.  >> COULD COULD YOU REMIND ME  AND ONE OF THE DOCUMENTS YOU  TALKED ABOUT HOW THE WATER  FLOWS COULD JULY REVIEW WAS  FROM THE NORTHEAST TO THE  SOUTHWEST OR WAS SORT OF THE  FLOW OF THAT. CORRECT.  >> I'M NOT A STORM OR ENSURE  THAT THAT IS NOT MY REVENGE HE  SPENT WE HAVE PEOPLE ON OUR  TEAM THAT  >> CONCERNED ABOUT THIS.  >> AND THE ONE OF THE  IDENTIFIED EXPANSION AREAS  ALSO CONTAINS LADY'S SLIPPER.  WHICH ALSO COME OAKS PARK. I  MEAN ISN'T THAT AREA AND THE  WATER LIKE HALF YEAR. I DON'T  KNOW AND THEN ACTIVITY CENTER  EXPANSION. REALLY MAKES SENSE  BUT THAT'S A THEY FINITE FOR  THE RECORD JULIANA BILLY  ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER. SO.  >> SPEAKER PUBLIC WORKS HE IS  PURSUING MANY DIFFERENT  THINGS. HE'S ALSO WORKING WITH  YOU TO GO IN OUR OUR UTILITIES  DIRECTOR RIGHT AND SOME SUCH  AS WE'VE DISCUSSED IN THE PAST  FOR EXAMPLE DOES HAVE A  RESERVOIR UP IN THE NORTHERN  PORTION OF THE CITY.  >> SO.  >> WE RECEIVED THROUGH THE  CITY NORTH PORT OUR WATERSHED  WATER THAT COMES FROM THE  NORTH TO THE SOUTH. 200 MILE  AREA RADIUS OKAY SO  CONTROLLING THAT WATER ONCE IT  GETS HERE. YOU KNOW THE  BIGGEST OBSTACLE WE'VE HAD  OVER THE YEARS. SO THIS JUST  BECAUSE THEY'RE LOOKING AT  MANY THINGS TO BE ABLE TO DO  THAT ONE OF WHICH FOR EXAMPLE,  THE HOSPITAL AND SOME OTHER  ZONING CHANGES IT'S RAISE  WORKING ON. BUT THE END OF THE  DAY, THE DEVELOPERS ARE GOING  TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR  DEVELOPING THEIR LAND. MAKING  SURE THEY HAVE POSITIVE  DRAINAGE AND THAT THEY DON'T  HAVE THE FLOODING ON THEIR  PROPERTIES. BUT THE CITY WILL  OF COURSE BE RESPONSIBLE FOR  CORRECTING OUR ISSUE THE OTHER  THING WE'RE WORKING ON AS WITH  FDOT AS YOU KNOW WE'RE GOING  TO BE DOING ENERGY TO PROVE  IMPROVEMENTS. THAT'S GOING TO  BE ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE  GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO DO.  AND EXCEPT WITH THE DOT RIGHT  AWAY IS IT'S GOING TO BE ON  THE CITY. SO MISTER SPEAKER IS  ACTIVELY PURSUING ON MANY  DIFFERENT THINGS IS EXPLORING.  GETTING COSTS YEAR OUT HOW  WE'RE GOING TO RESOLVE THOSE  DRAINAGE ISSUES IN THE NORTH  NORTHERN PART OF THE CITY. I  SUMPTER.  >> OKAY THANK APPRECIATE IT.  YIELD FOR THIS ROUND, OKAY  COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL. WHEN I  WAS READING YOUR PROPOSED  MASTER PLAN. SAYS THERE'S  PRESENCE OF ARCHAEOLOGICAL  SITES ON THE NORTHERN ACTIVITY  CENTER PERSONS IS NORTH EAST  AND NORTHWEST PARCELS ARE JUST  ONE OF THEM.  >> IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING IT'S  ONLY ON THE NORTHWEST, IT'S  ONLY ON THE WEST SIDE OF  SUMTER. IN THE AREA OF THE  ACTIVITIES  >> YOU ALSO IN YOUR.  >> ISSUES AND OPPORTUNITIES  YOU TAX INCREMENT FINANCING  DISTRICT. IS SOMEBODY  AVAILABLE THAT MIGHT BE ABLE  TO EXPLAIN HOW THAT WORKS  BECAUSE IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING  THAT ONLY THROUGH THE COUNTY.  I DON'T KNOW OF A CITY BEING  ABLE TO DO IT TO.  >> ANY TIME YOU DO SOMETHING  LIKE THAT YOU CITY COUNTY  COORDINATION IS IS ESSENTIAL  AND FLORIDA'S LEAN HEAVILY ON  THE SCARY PROGRAM FOR THESE  KINDS OF THINGS AND NOT SO  MUCH STRICT TAX INCREMENT  FINANCING. THERE ARE WAYS TO  CORDON OFF. THE INCREMENT OF  EXPENDING THE COUNCIL AREA TO  HELP PAY FOR INFRASTRUCTURE IN  INFORMAL SENSE ARE ALSO CALLED  SYNTHETIC SO THERE ARE SOME  WAYS TO DO THIS THAT I'M GOING  THROUGH ALL OF THE OFFICIAL  CHANNELS THAT YOU MIGHT  NORMALLY DO TO TIF DISTRICT  BUT WE WANTED TO AT LEAST  INTRODUCE THE IDEA OF TAKING  INCREMENT OF REVENUE RECEIVED  FROM NEW DEVELOPMENT AND  REINVESTING IF NEEDED IF THAT  WAS A SOURCE OF REVENUE, THE  CITY MACOMB STRUCTURE  IMPROVEMENTS REASON.  >> SO HAVING GONE THROUGH USE  MASTER PLANNING IT.  >> YOUR.  >> DOCUMENT REFERS TO THE CITY  STRATEGIC VISION PLAN OUR CITY  CALLS AND OUR STRATEGIC PLAN  SO JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THE  TITLE IS CORRECT. SO THAT  FUTURE COMMISSIONS DON'T WHAT  IS THAT STRATEGIC VISION PLAN,  YOU KNOW JUST IF YOU COULD  CORRECT. THE INACCURATE  REFERENCES JUST SO EVERYBODY  IS ON THE SAME PAGE 5 YEARS OR  10 YEARS FROM SURE THIS IS  GOING TO SURVIVE PROBABLY ALL  OF ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE  PLANNING THOSE OTHER QUADRANTS  OUTSIDE OF HOSPITAL.  >> YOU ALSO MENTIONED IN AND  IT'S I'M KIND OF FLOP IN  BETWEEN SCENARIO BE IN  SCENARIO C.  >> WHEN YOU SAY THAT SERIOUS  CONSERVATION IS TO OCCUR IN  THE NORTHWESTERN PERSONAL.  IT'S OWNING WOULD NEED TO BE  UPDATED AND THE LAND  PROTECTED. WHENEVER I HEAR  PROTECTING LAND THAT MEANS THE  CITY HAS TO BUY THE LAND.  BECAUSE WE PROBABLY CAN'T  PROTECTS SOMEBODY ELSE'S LAND.  >> YES, THAT IS TRUE YOU  CANNOT JUST TAKE IT ALL RIGHT  THAT THE.  >> GOOD EVENING, LARRY BARNES  ASSISTANT DIRECTOR DEVELOPMENT  SERVICES.  >> AND OUR.  >> UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT  CODE NOT COMPREHENSIVE AND WE  DO HAVE TOOLS THAT WE CAN USE  IN LIEU OF THE CITY PURCHASING  THE PROPERTY. ONE OF THOSE IS  OFFERING TRANSFER OF  DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS TO THE  PROPERTY OWNER. EXCHANGE FOR  THEM APPLYING A CONSERVATION  EASEMENT OVER THAT PROPERTY.  >> OUR OUR FIRST  RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE FOR  THEM TO SEEK THAT STATE.  >> ACTUALLY TAKING OWNERSHIP  OF LAND AND PROVIDING THAT  PERPETUATE MAINTENANCE.  >> OR A LOCAL CONSERVANCY OUR  NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION AND THE  CITY AS A LAST RESORT. WE CAN  ALSO IN THE CONSERVATION  EASEMENT AGREEMENT REQUIRE  THAT IF THE PROPERTY OWNERS  NOT SUCCESSFUL. AND CONVEYING  THAT PROPERTY TO ANY. STATE  LOCAL OR NONPROFIT AGENCY THE  COUNTY THAT THEY WOULD BE  REQUIRED FOR THE PERPETUAL  THINK DENSE REMOVAL OF EXOTIC  SAND. AND ONGOING CARE OF THAT  PROPERTY.  >> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE  DISCUSSED. LONG TIME AGO. WAS  TO HAVE THIS ACTIVITY CENTER.  AND THAT'S DIVIDED INTO  SEGMENTS. THIS SEGMENT WOULD  BE THE HOSPITAL THAT SEGMENT  COULD HAVE SOME DEVELOPMENT ON  IT AND THAT SEGMENT WOULD BE  MORE CONSERVATION OUTDOOR  RECREATIONAL THINGS ON THE  NORTHERN PARTS THAT WE THEN  WHEN WE WERE COMING UP WITH  THE LAND USES. IT WAS  SEGMENTED BASED ON THE AND I  WAS JUST WONDERING IF THAT IS  A POSSIBILITY FOR WHEN WE'RE  DOING OUR REZONING.  >> WE.  >> WE CAN NOT ASSIGN  CONSERVATION ZONING TO A  PRIVATE PROPERTY. WE DO WANT  TO TAKE SO WE CANNOT DO THAT  WE CAN DO IT THROUGH LAND USE  PERMITTED PROHIBITED.  >> SO IF WE HAD LIKE THE  NORTH.  >> LAST  >> IT SLIPPERY SLOPE.  >> IF WE WERE TO TRY TO  SEVERELY RESTRICT USE IS ON  THE NORTHERN QUADRANTS.  THROUGH. HER PERMITTED USE  TABLES.  >> IT COULD STILL BE CONSTRUED  AS A TAKE ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT  OF ALLOWING SIGNIFICANTLY  BROADER WU SAYS ON THE OTHER  PARCELS IN THE ACTIVITY  CENTER. NOT RECOMMENDED.  >> HOW HOW WOULD WE IF WE'RE  DOING MASTER PLANNING. HOW  WOULD WE REGULATE THAT INTO  LIKE SCENARIO BE YOUR SCENARIO  C.  >> MASTER PLANNING IS A  VISIONARY PROCESS. AT THE END  OF THE DAY. THE COMMISSION  MIGHT IDENTIFY PLAN THAT THAT  IT'S THEIR VISION FOR THAT  AREA OF THE PAST AND THEN WITH  THAT THE CITY STAFF.  >> WORK WITH THE PROPERTY  OWNERS TO ACHIEVE GOALS FOR  YOU. WITH OUT RUNNING THE RISK  OF. RESTRICTING PROPERTY IN  SUCH A MANNER THAT WE WERE YOU  KNOW SUBJECT TO A TAKING.  >> I  >> APPRECIATE THAT AND I  UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.  BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY IF  THE DEVELOPER DOESN'T LIKE  WHAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING  BECAUSE OF OUR VISION OF THIS  MASTER PLAN AND THEY SAY HEY  I'M ALLOWED BASED ON WHAT'S  PERMITTED ON THAT LAND I'M  GOING TO DEVELOP THAT. WHERE  STOCK.  >> I CAN ADD SOMETHING TO  LATER DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT  SERVICES SO ONE OF THE THINGS  THAT WE CAN DO WITH THEM ONCE  WE HAVE A MASTER PLAN THAT  IDENTIFIES A VISION FOR  CERTAIN QUADRANTS SAID WE CAN  WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER OR THE  PROPERTY OWNER TO HELP ACHIEVE  THAT VISION BUT ALSO THAT.  MASTER PLAN. CARRIES WEIGHT  THAT WE CAN. WORK WITH THE  PROPERTY OWNER AND PURSUE  GRANTS AND OTHER TYPES OF  FUNDING THAT COULD HELP.  PRESERVE SOME OF THAT LAND OR  HELP PAY FOR IMPROVEMENTS WITH  STORM WATER AND THINGS LIKE  THAT THAT ARE ARE A PUBLIC  PURPOSE. DEVELOPING THAT LAND  FOR PROPERTY OWNER. THEY'RE  THE COST ENTIRELY TO DEVELOP  THAT LAND GOING TO BE VERY  EXPENSIVE BECAUSE OF THE  LITIGATION THAT WOULD BE  NEEDED BOTH STORM WATER AND  ENVIRONMENTAL CONSIDERATIONS  SO. THERE COULD BE WITH THE  HELP OF THIS MASTER PLAN AND  THE WEIGHT THAT IT BRINGS.  THAT COULD BE LEVERAGE TOO.  WORK WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER  TO SAY IF YOU WILL ONLY  DEVELOPED THE FRONT PORTION OF  THIS PROPERTY IN CERTAIN WAYS.  WE WILL HELP LOOK FOR GRANT  FUNDING AND 14 YARDS AND OTHER  THINGS TO HELP PRESERVE TOP  PORTION OF THAT PROPERTY ALONG  THE MYAKKA HACHI SO THAT THEY  DO THERE THE ENTIRE COST OF.  YOU KNOW THE FUNDING FOR THAT  AND THEN THAT THAT PORTION  COULD BECOME COME UNDER A  CONSERVATION EASEMENT OR YOU  KNOW BE. AND OPEN SPACE WRECK  TYPE AREA.  >> YOUR SCENARIOS, A B AND C  ARE SPECIFIC TO THE QUADRANTS.  >> THERE'S NOT MUCH. MASTER  VISIONING MASTER PLANNING FOR  THE EXTENDED ACTIVITY CENTERED  STORY. YOU HAVE OUTLINED IN  THE DOTTED LINES. AND I'M  CURIOUS WHY WHY WASN'T THAT  REALLY LOOKED AT FURTHER.  >> WE'RE LOOKING AT IT NOW  IT'S JUST NOT THOSE DETAILED  RECOMMENDATIONS HAVE NOT COME  OUT YET THINGS MOVING AT A  VERY FAST PACE THAT'S ABOUT A  90 PROJECTS ROUTE AS FAST AS  WE CAN TO GET THAT STUFF DONE.  WE CAME UP WITH AN INITIAL SET  OF RECOMMENDATIONS WE'VE GOT  SOME DIRECTION FROM STAFF TO  TO DIG FURTHER. SO WE'RE  LOOKING AT THOSE ARE PARENTS.  >> THE PURPOSE FOR TONIGHT IS  BECAUSE IN. LESS THAN 10 DAYS.  WE HAVE TO PROVIDE TRAPS IN  AREAS WE DID NOT WANT TO SEND  THOSE SOME AREAS TO THE STATE  BEFORE. IT'S COMMISSION HAD A  CHANCE TO SEE THE STATE SEEING  OUR MASTER PLAN I DON'T KNOW  BECAUSE THEY ARE FUNDING PART  OF THAT WE RECEIVED A GRANT  FROM THE STATE FOR THIS WORK.  AND THAT COMES WITH VERY  STRICT DEADLINES. I DIDN'T SO  THE WHOLE THE WHOLE PLAN IS  REQUIRED TO BE COMPLETE IN  JUNE.  >> THE EXTENDED PORTION REACH  JUNE. WE ARE CONSULTANTS ARE  WORKING STAFF LITTLE BIT THAT  WE HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO DO.  BUT WE'VE SO WE'VE BEEN  WORKING AT A BREAKNECK WE  CERTAINLY DIDN'T WANT TO SEND  SOMETHING TO THE STATE. FOR  THEM TO LOOK AT BEFORE. THE  COMMITTEE WE SHOWED IT TO THE  COMMISSION'S SO THIS IS THIS  IS STILL AT THIS IS DRAFT.  WE'RE STILL WORKING ON IT  WE'RE STILL FLESHING IT OUT.  WANT TO GET THAT CORE THE CORE  PART IS WHAT WE WERE REQUIRED.  THESE 4 QUADRANTS WHAT WE WERE  REQUIRED TO SEND TO THE STATE.  IN A FEW DAYS. AND SO THAT'S  THE PORTION WE'VE BEEN WORKING  ON TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN  SHOW YOU AS A BODY BEFORE WE  SEND TO PROBATION TO ASKING  FOR AN EXTENSION GARDEN  EXTENSIONS, THAT WE'VE ALREADY  WE ALREADY TRIED THAT THEY  SAID NO. YOU KNOW, BUT I DO  HAVE OTHER.  >> OKAY GOOD I PUT MYSELF NEXT  IN THE QUEUE.  ♪ I DO APPRECIATE HAVING THIS  PLAN BECAUSE.  >> THAT WILL ALLOW US TO TO GO  FORWARD WE HAVE TO KNOW WHERE  WE WANT TO GO AND THE MY ONE  OF MY QUESTIONS HAS ALREADY  BEEN KIND OF ADDRESSED AND  THAT THAT NORTHWEST NORTHEAST  PART ARE SO THOSE ARE  PRIVATELY OWNED VISIT. WE'RE  TALKING ABOUT IS IF WE CAN DO  WHATEVER WE WANT WITH SOME  TYPE ENVIRONMENTAL RECREATION  AND I REMEMBER WE WENT OVER  THE NEW USE THAT USES FOR  ACTIVITY CENTERS THAT I DON'T  THINK THAT WAS ONE OF THE MORE  THAT COULD BE THERE BUT IT  WITH OTHER THINGS THAT WERE  THEY ARE AND I BELIEVE THAT  THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE AS  WAS STATED BY MISS BARNES YOU  YOU CANNOT SAY YOU CAN DO IT  HERE BUT YOU CAN DO IT THERE  AND HAVE RESTRICTED USES. I  APPRECIATE THAT THING BROUGHT  UP AGAIN. AND. BILLY DID  MENTION THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL  WITH WATER NOT JUST FROM  WHAT'S FALLING HERE BUT FROM  200 SQUARE MILES I THINK IS  WHAT YOU SAID GOING THROUGH  AND FOR THE BENEFIT OF OUR  NEWER SO ONE OF WONDERFUL  LEGACIES OF GENERAL  DEVELOPMENT IS THEY DREDGED  AND WIDEN THAT CREEK FROM 75  TO THE SNOW OVER WHICH IS WHY  THEY WERE FINED. VERY BY  FLORIDA DEPARTMENT  ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AND  THAT REALLY IS THE MONEY THAT  GOT US THE ENVIRONMENTAL. SOME  OF YOU HAVE BEEN HERE KNEW  THAT THAT WAS A REALLY BIG  DEAL AND THAT HAPPENED BECAUSE  OF WHAT THEY DID. BUT THAT WAS  THEIR ATTEMPT TO TRY TO  CAPTURE WHAT THEY KNEW WAS  GOING TO BE COMING THROUGH.  THE AREA WHERE THEY PUT ALL  THOSE LITTLE QUARTER ACRE LOTS  THAT HAD TO DEAL WITH THAT BUT  FLOODING IN I GUESS IT'S NOT A  PLAN THAT WORKED OUT VERY WELL  EITHER. AND I THINK. THAT IS  AND I JUST WANT TO KNOW THAT  IN THAT LITTLE MAP THERE I  ACTUALLY SAW THAT THE ROAD  THAT I LIVE SOUTH AND AND THEN  THERE'S THE STREET LEAD SO  YES, IT TURNS INTO A REVERSED  WHENEVER WE GET A LOT A LOT OF  RAIN SO THAT YES IT'S JUST A  IT'S IT'S THE WAY THE LAND IS  AND. AGAIN I APPRECIATE  KNOWING HAVING A PLAN SO AGAIN  WE HAVE SOME SOMETHING TO TO  GO BY SO THANK YOU FOR ON YOUR  WORK AND I LOOK FORWARD TO AND  THIS IS ALL COMPLETED TO SEE  WHAT THERE.  >> LAND IS ON AN AREA THAT LET  HOUSE BUT. MY TAKE THIS IS ONE  OF THE AREAS WHERE CITY WHERE  THE GREATEST DEGREE ECONOMIC  GROWTH SHOULD TAKE PLACE.  >> TO ME THE CHALLENGE YOU  KNOW, MAYBE I'M JUST I DON'T  KNOW ENOUGH. ONE IT JUST SEEMS  TO ME. THIS WHOLE. DEVELOPMENT  OR PLANNED FOR MASTER PLAN FOR  THIS ACTIVITY CENTER SHOULD  ALL BE ABOUT STORM WATER  MANAGEMENT SO THAT THESE  PROPERTY OWNERS AND DEVELOPED.  ECONOMIC JUGGERNAUT SURROUND  HOSPITAL CAUSE WHAT I ENVISION  SPITTLE CLOSE-UP AND THIS  ENTIRE AREA GETS FILLED UP  WITH MEDICAL AND HOSPITAL.  SCENARIO ONE IT'S WHAT. I  ENVISION THIS AREA TODAY. A  PLACE TO PLAY IN THE PARK OR  ANYWHERE ELSE. THIS IS THE  AREA. AT SUMPTER AND 75. IT'S  GOING TO COST A FORTUNE AND  EVERYBODY'S OKAY. IT. BUT TO  ME IT SHOULD BE ONE OF THE 2  ECONOMIC JUGGERNAUT. SO ONE OF  THE IN OUR CITY AND IF WE  DILUTE AREA DOWN MAKING PARKS  AND WELL WHEN PAT ALL KINDS OF  STUFF WE LOSE ONE ECONOMIC  OPPORTUNITY. WE STILL ARE  PATHETICALLY SURE ANYWHERE  NEAR WE'RE WE NEED TO BE ON  HOSPITAL'S NOT GOING TO TAKE A  BOY OH BOY IF WE CAN PACK  ACTIVITY CENTER WITH  REVENUE-GENERATING IT'S GOING  TO HELP OUR CITY DRAMATICALLY.  AND.  >> IF WE'VE GOT TO LIKE 2  THINGS ENVIRONMENTALLY  ELSEWHERE IN THE CITY, I'M ALL  FOR IT, YOU KNOW AS WE TALKED  ABOUT THE PREVIOUS DISCUSSION  EARLIER TONIGHT. BUT THIS  AREA. SHOULD BE DEALT WITH AND  WHOLE THING HAS TO BE BUILT UP  SO BE IT IF WE GOT TO BUILD A  RESERVOIR SO BE WE'VE GOT TO  GO TO THE SHEDS TO FIND MONEY  FOR THIS IT'S A PROJECT IN MY  ESTIMATION. THAT REALLY NEEDS  TO BE ALL ABOUT NONRESIDENTIAL  ENVIRONMENTAL THIS IS ALL  ABOUT LIKE DEALING WITH THE  STORM WATER ISSUE ECONOMIC  DEVELOPMENT CAN EXPLODE ITS  AREA. THAT'S JUST MY TAKE AND  MAYBE I'M JUST A NAIVE GUY  WOULD HAVE NOTICED ANYTHING  YOUR ****. THIS WILL BE A  HORRIBLE MISSED OPPORTUNITY IN  MY ESTIMATION. COMMISSIONER  MCDOWELL.  >> NOT TOO SURE HOW TO RESPOND  VICE BECAUSE WHEN YOU READ THE  REPORT CLEARLY SAYING NUMEROUS  TIMES THROUGHOUT THE REPORT.  AVOID DEVELOPMENT IN THE  NORTHERN QUADRANT VOID  DEVELOPMENT IN THE FLOODPLAIN  ZONES AND IF YOU CAN PLEASE  BRING UP THE FLOODPLAIN ZONES  THAT'S LIKE ALMOST THE ENTIRE  4 QUADRANTS IN IF YOU BUILD IT  UP SO THAT YOU CAN DEVELOP  ECONOMICALLY YOU'RE GOING TO  EVERYBODY TO THE SOUTH AND TO  THE EAST. BECAUSE THE WATER'S  GOT TO GO SOMEWHERE YOU CAN'T  SHEEP BUILDING IT UP. IT ALSO  SAYS STATES THAT.  >> IF YOU PLAY SIGNIFICANT  AMOUNT OF IMPERVIOUS SURFACE  AND THESE NORTHERN PARCELS  WHICH ARE ALMOST ENTIRELY IN  THE AD FLOODS WHICH IS THE  LITTLE HASH TAG AREA.  >> THERE'S NO OPPORTUNITY FOR  STORMWATER STORAGE ON THOSE  PARCELS SO YOU WOULD HAVE TO  DO ALL THIS STORM WATER  STORAGE TO THE SOUTH. AND THE  ONLY PARTIAL LEFT TO DO  STORMWATER STORAGE IS THE  SOUTHWEST QUADRANT. THIS IS AN  ENVIRONMENTAL NIGHTMARE. IF  YOU BUILD IT UP AND YOU PUT  IMPERVIOUS SURFACES ON ALL OF  THOSE HASHTAG AREAS.  >> THE ONLY AREA THAT YOU  REALLY CAN DEVELOP FOR SOME  KIND OF ECONOMIC BENEFIT IF  YOU LOOK AT THE LITTLE CHART  THAT THEY HAVE THE LITTLE  BARS. SCENARIO WAY.  >> IT SAYS THAT THERE. THERE'S  NO WHAT MITIGATION AVAILABLE  FOR SCENARIO A WHICH IS THE  HIGHEST ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT  OF THIS PLAN. SO I'M NOT TOO  SURE.  >> WHAT YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS  IS AND HOW MUCH MONEY WE MIGHT  HAVE TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THIS  ALL COME TO FRUITION BUT.  >> THIS IS AN ENVIRONMENTAL  NIGHTMARE THAT I AM SEEING.  SCENARIO AND SCENARIO C SHOW  SOME STORAGE FOR STORM WATER  RUNOFF. YES I WILL SAY IT  AGAIN. ENVIRONMENTALLY  SENSITIVE DEVELOPMENT IS AN  ECONOMIC DRIVER. IT IS AN  ECONOMIC DRIVER, THERE'S NO  DISPUTING IT JUST BECAUSE  WE'RE NOT LAYING CONCRETE DOWN  DOESN'T MEAN IT'S NOT ECONOMIC  DRIVER. SO I WOULD BE VERY  CAUTIOUS ABOUT GOING ANYWHERE  CLOSE TO SAINT IS A MATTER OF  FACT I WOULD LIKE TOTALLY  REMOVE BEFORE YOU PRESENTED TO  THE STATE. BECAUSE JUST IS NOT  FEASIBLE. SO WITH THAT I DO  HAVE A COUPLE OTHER QUESTIONS  REGARDING THE STORM WATER. I  HAD SEEN ON YOUR CONSIDERATION  5 IDEAS. TO MITIGATE THE STORM  WATER AND YOU SAID IT HAS TO  BE A REGIONAL APPROACH. MOST  OF THE WATER IS COMING FROM  THE NORTH THROUGH CARLTON  RANCH, SLOWING DOWN SOUTH.  WHEN WE THE STORM WATER PLANT  BACK IN 2019 WHEN WE HAD THAT  BIG DISCUSSION. THERE REALLY  WAS NO APPETITE TO HAVE THE  COUNTY HELP US WITH ANY TYPE  OF RESERVOIR. WHETHER IT'S ON  COUNTY LAND CITY LAND. I'M THE  REGIONAL APPROACH WAS PRETTY  MUCH MIXED WHEN WE HAVE THAT  CONVERSATION. GRANTED THERE'S  NEW COMMISSION AT THE COUNTY  LEVEL NEW COMMISSION AT THE  CITY LEVEL. BUT THE FUNDING  STILL PROBABLY IS NOT AS  PREVALENT AS ONE WOULD HOPE.  THAT WOULD BE A HUGE PROJECT  UNDERTAKE TO CREATE THAT  RESERVOIR. IT ALSO SAYS THAT  THE MOST CHALLENGING LAND YOU  SCENARIOS. THE FIRST ONE IS  ONE THAT'S WHERE THE MOST  ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CAN  HAPPEN, BUT IT IS ALSO THE  MOST CHALLENGING WHEN IT COMES  TO STORM WATER. A SCENARIO SEE  IS THE SECOND SCENARIO BE  SEEMS TO BE THE BEST. WHY'D  YOU ONLY GO TO A FLOOD  MODELING UNDER A 25 YEAR FLOOD  EVENT ESPECIALLY FOR THIS AREA  WHITE WAYS IN A 25 YEAR FLOOD  EVENT INSTEAD OF A 100.  >> I HAVE TO LOOK AT THE  REFERENCE YEAR. ALLUDING  >> PUT A LITTLE ARROW NEXT TO  THE NUMBER 5 IF YOU WANT. IF  YOU CAN PASS  >> THIS IS MODELING DONE BY  OTHERS THIS INFORMATION TAKEN  FROM REPORT THAT WAS PUBLISHED  BY THE CITY AND DONE. NOT  YOURS WE WILL WEREN'T WEREN'T  A 90 DAY USE HERE. SO THIS  KIND OF MODELING AND THINGS  LIKE WERE UNABLE. WE ARE  REFERRING TO SORRY.  >> IT'S STILL BE CURIOUS. WHY  WE WHENEVER THAT IS HOW COME  THEY ONLY ONE TO 25 YEARS. ALL  RIGHT, IT SAYS THAT IS PART OF  THE MASTER AND I APOLOGIZE,  THEY ONLY WANT TO 25 YEARS  WHEN THE CITY DID THE STUDY  BECAUSE THE ULDC CURRENTLY  ONLY REQUIRES 25 YEAR FLOOD.  >> WHAT CHANGE THINK  I'LL YIELD. OKAY COMMISSIONER  LANGDON.  >> I'M A BIG SUPPORTER OF ECO  TOURISM AND I SEE OPPORTUNITY  FOR THAT IN THE NORTHERN  QUADRANT. YOU KNOW HAVING REST  REST STICK MAKING THIS UP  PEOPLE CAMPING AND SPENDING  FROM TREES AND THAT KIND THING  YEARS ONLY AN ECONOMIC DRIVER  IF YOU PROVIDE THEM WITH A LOT  OF OPPORTUNITIES TO SPEND  THEIR MONEY IN CLOSE PROXIMITY  THAT'S WHAT SOMETHING LIKE  THIS BECOMES ECONOMIC DRIVER  SO. QUESTION. WHAT EXACTLY IS  STAFF LOOKING FOR FROM US. IN  THIS CONVERSATION, WHAT DO WE  NEED TO DO TO HELP YOU MOVE  FORWARD WITH THIS.  >> TRUTHFULLY WE'RE NOT  LOOKING FOR ANY DIRECTION OR  ALREADY THINK THIS WAS  INFORMATIONAL OR YOUR BENEFIT  BECAUSE AS I SAID WE DON'T  LIKE SENDING SOMETHING TO THE  STATE THAT WE HAVEN'T GIVEN  YOU THE BENEFIT C. THAT'S NOT  TO SAY WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE  WHAT WE'VE HEARD AND GO BACK  IN AND. THIS TONIGHT WAS  REALLY PRIMARILY. TO GET. YOU  A PREVIEW BEFORE WE THAT STATE  WE WILL BE COMING BACK AGAIN  TO YOU. WITH THAT MORE  FLESHED-OUT PLAN AND WILL BE  GETTING INPUT FROM YOU AND  EVERYTHING BUT WE'VE GOT TO  MEET THOSE DEADLINES WITH THE  STATE. ONCE WE HAVE. ONCE WE  HAVE SATISFIED THE STATE WITH  THEIR DEADLINES AND OUR  FUNDING REQUIREMENTS. WE CAN  HAVE WITH THAT PLAN AND MAKE  WHATEVER CHANGES THE  COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO MAKE  EVEN BEYOND SO DOESN'T MEAN  IT'S A DONE DEAL AND WE CAN'T  TOUCH IT. ONCE WE HAVE  >> AND I WILL GIVE 3  SUGGESTIONS OR  RECOMMENDATIONS. I I DO HEAR  VICE MAYOR AND I CAN GET JUST  AS RABID AS VICE MAYOR. IN  TERMS OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT  AND. PURSUING KINDS OF  OPPORTUNITIES, BUT YOU KNOW  WHAT AT THE END OF THE DAY  GETS REALLY HARD TO FIGHT  MOTHER NATURE AND I THINK  MOTHER NATURE WANTS US OUT OF  THOSE NORTHERN QUADRANT. SO  FOR ME. I DON'T WANT TO SEE  ACTIVE PARKS. I DON'T WANT TO  ANYTHING THAT'S A HEAVY LIFT  FOR THE CITY TO MAINTAIN. BUT  WE PREFERABLY FIND A COMPANY  THAT'S FIGURED OUT HOW TO MAKE  MONEY ON ECO TOURISM I'D LIKE  TO SEE VERY LOW IMPACT  ACTIVITY KEEPING NEEDS AREAS  AS NATURAL AS POSSIBLE. THE SO  EAST PODRAN IS PRETTY MUCH WE  CAN SO TO FIGURE OUT THE  DRAINAGE REQUIREMENTS. THE  SOUTHWEST QUADRANT. I DON'T  CARE HOW MUCH STUFF YOU NOT.  MORE THE I LIKE BOTH 2 AND 3.  I'M THE FIRST ONE SEEMS JUST A  LITTLE INTENSE, BUT AGAIN I  THINK WE SHOULD TAKE FULL  ADVANTAGE OF THAT. MY PARENTS  RECOMMENDATION IS THAT IF  WE'RE GOING TO EXPAND THIS  ACTIVITY CENTER. I'M THINKING  SO SOUTHEAST WHICH IS PROBABLY  WHERE THE MOST HOMES ARE BUILT  HOMES RIGHT HAND. I THINK THAT  SOUTHWEST. I MEAN OAKS PARK  IT'S LADY SLIPPER. I JUST NEED  SOMEONE A LOT SMARTER THAN ME  TO SAY THAT WE CAN DO  SOMETHING WITH THAT AREA FOR  MORE INTENSE DEVELOPMENT BUT  POINT THAT'S A FLOOD. SO YES,  IT IS AND THAT IS PRIMARILY  THE REASON TO EXTEND IT.  BECAUSE IT OPENS UP. MORE USES  TO MAKE THE PROPERTY MORE  VALUABLE TO INCENTIVIZE THE  DEVELOPER TO COME IN SYMBOL,  BUT WANTS A BETTER DRIVER JUST  PROPERTIES FROM THESE PRIVATE  DEVELOPERS.  >> THAT DID THAT THOSE  DEVELOPERS WILL THEN HAVE TO  BRING IN THE UTILITIES. THEY  WILL HAVE TO DEVELOP A MASTER  STORM WATER PLANT.  >> SO  >> THAT IT NOT ONLY MITIGATES  THE STORM WATER THAT THEY ARE  NEEDING TO RETAIN ON THEIR  SITE BUT LIKELY MANY BENEFITS  FOR THE MYAKKA HACHI CREEK.  THE FILTRATION OF RUNOFF THAT  GOES TO THE CREEK AS WELL AS  THE MITIGATION FOR THE  PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH. IT IS  AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT ON  COST TO DEVELOPERS RATHER THAN  THE CITY AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT  THAT AREA. I THINK THE NUMBER  WAS AN ADDITIONAL 35400 HOMES  THAT COULD BE BUILT IN THAT  AREA FOR MORE THAN THAT IT IS  4.50 IF YOU ADD THAT MANY MORE  HOMES IN THAT AREA. THEY DO  NOT HAVE TO PROVIDE IN THE  STORMWATER MITIGATION YOU TO  CREATE A BIGGER PROBLEM FOR  MORE PEOPLE AND WHAT WE HAD  DURING IAN. SO BY SHIFTING IT.  DEVELOPERS TO BRING IN THE  UTILITIES BRING IN STORM WATER  MITIGATION I SIMPLY KNOWS LOTS  GIVING THEM THE INCENTIVES TO  DO THAT THAT'S THE PURPOSE FOR  EXTENDING THAT TO THE SOUTH. I  WITHDRAW MY 3RD RECOMMENDATION  FOR US TO STILL STAND.  >> AND IT'S A LAND USE CHANGE  NOT NOT AN ACTIVITY CENTER  EXPANSION BUT IT CHANGED  DIFFERENTLY AND THAT IS THE  THAT IS THE LAND USE CHANGE  THAT WE'RE PROPOSING IN THE  ULDC. WITH REGARDS TO THE LADY  SLIPPER AREA BECAUSE IT WAS  DRIVEN FROM THE FLOODING  ISSUES AND WE LITERALLY HAD  PEOPLE. YOU CALLED US AFTER  IAN AND SAID NOBODY'S EVER  GOING TO BUY MY HOUSE BECAUSE  IT'S FLOODED. HOW DO I HOW DO  I GET OUT OF AND THIS IS THIS  IS A WAY FOR IT PEOPLE TO HAVE  THOSE OPTIONS. I'M OKAY. AND I  JUST WANTED TO INSERT HERE  THAT THE DIRECTOR AGENTS AND  STAFF IS NOT LOOKING FOR ANY  ANY DIRECTION FROM US SO WE'RE  WE'RE ASKING FOR A VOTE OR NOT  BURNING VOTES WE'LL TAKE ALL  OF ALL OF THAT BUSINESS SHUN  ABSOLUTELY.  >> WITH THAT WE THIS REALLY  WAS FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE  COMMISSION BECAUSE WE JUST  DON'T LIKE TO SEND SOMETHING  TO THE STATE FOR RIGHT. THERE.  YOU KNOW LOOKING AT BEFORE  YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO AT  LEAST SEE IT.  >> ALL RIGHT SO I DO HAVE 2  COMMISSIONERS THANK YOU AND  HAVE TO ASK COMMISSIONER AND  RICH BUT PLEASE KEEP THAT IN  MIND THAT IF YOU HAVE  QUESTIONS. VICE MAYOR SO.  >> WE'RE VOTING SCENARIOS HERE  ALL 3 SCENARIOS ARE GOING TO  BE PUT  >> 3 SCENARIOS WILL BE IN THE  STEP IN BECAUSE THERE MIGHT AT  A MASTER PLAN LIKE ANYTHING IS  POSSIBLE WITH ENOUGH MONEY.  BUT THAT DOESN'T DOESN'T MEAN  THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD.  RECKONING DOES THAT MEAN  THAT'S WHAT WHAT HAPPENED. WE  AGREE THAT INTENSITY.  >> PROBABLY WON THE. SO WELL  OF WHAT WITH THE POSSIBLE OUT  THERE.  >> SHOW THESE VARIOUS STATE  YOU REALLY SHOWING HI MEETING  THEM LOT. AND NOT ONE. IT'S AN  AREA. WHAT WE WILL DO OUR  INTENTION IS THAT WE WILL.  PROCEED AS WE ARE WITH THIS  ADMISSION TO THE STATE BECAUSE  WE REALLY HAVE NO TIME TO MAKE  CHANGES AT THIS POINT. BUT AS  I SAID OUR SUBMISSION TO THE  STATE AND OUR DEADLINE FOR  HAVING THE PLAN. OR THE DOES  NOT PREVENT US FROM MAKING  ADDITIONAL CHANGES TO IT AFTER  THAT IT IS YOUR DOCUMENT. IT'S  THE CITY'S NOT YOU CAN MAKE  WHATEVER CHANGES WE WANT TO  AND WE CERTAINLY. BECOMING  BACK YOU. IN THE NEXT COUPLE  OF MONTHS TO TALK ABOUT. AND  MAKE WHATEVER CHANGES THE  COMMISSION WANTS OPERATE IN  FOR THAT TO BE THE FINAL PLAN  EVEN IF THAT'S AFTER WE DIDN'T  GET COMPLAINTS.  >> THIS  >> THAT'S WHAT I'D BE LOOKING  FOR US SOME GOOD HARD PATIENTS  FROM WAS JUST.  >> YOU KNOW EVERY LIKE TO ME  WE WILL CERTAINLY HAVE THAT  THIS ME VERY UNCOMFORTABLE,  YOU KNOW, WE'RE SO THIS IS  SUCH A SHORT DEADLINE WITH THE  STATE WE'RE NOT USED TO  OPERATING WHAT I USED TO DOING  MASTER PLANS WITH THIS SHORT  OF A DEAD ONE.  >> AND WE HAD AT VERY  BEGINNING WE HAD SOME BACK AND  FORTH WITH THE STATE ON THEIR  REQUIREMENTS. WE.  >> AIRED SOME OF THE THINGS  THAT THEY WANTED US TO DO LOOK  WE JUST CAN'T DO IT IN THIS  AND NOT. EXTEND YOUR KIDS WANT  BY ANOTHER 6 MONTHS IF YOU  EXPECT LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO BE  ABLE TO COMPLY WITH ALL OF  THIS THOUGH. BUT CERTAINLY  DON'T WANT TO DO IS LOSE THAT  FUNDING HAVE STAY. SO WHAT. WE  WANT TO EVERYONE'S STATE GET  GET THEM WHAT THEY NEED WITH  IT BUT THEN THE COMMISSION IS  ABSOLUTELY. IT IS POINT THAT  WE CAN MAKE WHATEVER CHANGES.  >> THERE WILL BE A FULL FACE  MEN TAISHAN PLANT, YOUR  INSPIRATION AT THE NEXT GUESS  A LOT ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THAT  WILL BE THE MEAT POTATOES THAT  WHAT THE SHOULD BE.  >> REACHED OUT TO I JUST HAVE  ONE MORE IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR  I KNOW WE'RE NOT VOTING ON  ANYTHING BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT  MASTERPLAN MEDICAL REPORT. IF  YOU PUT THAT MAP MAP UP AGAIN.  BUT 5 RECOMMENDATIONS THERE'S  A NUMBER 3 AND IT SAYS. OCCUR.  >> I HAVE BEEN ON MICE.  >> IT SAYS AVOID RESIDENTIAL  HOUSING AND OR TRANSIENT  LODGING FLOOD ZONES AGAIN IT'S  ALL THAT HASHTAGS THIS GATEWAY  ACTIVITY CENTER SHOULD NOT  SLATED FOR ANY LAND USE THAT  INCLUDES HOUSING OR TRANSPORT  AS WOULD LIKELY OCCUR SAFETY  RISK TO RESIDENTS OF FIRST  RESPONDERS DURING A FLOOD OF  THAT I HATE TO TELL YOU.  BUSINESSES FOR 2 IN CREATE  SAFETY HAZARDS FOR OUR FIRST  RESPONDERS TOO SO IF IT'S NOT  FOR HOUSING THAT SHOULD NOT  GOOD BUSINESSES AND THIS THE  AREA WHERE YOU SIDES WANT TO  REZONE LADIES LOOK AT THE MAX  ITS WANTS AND I KNOW THAT THE  DEVELOPERS GOING TO DO THE  MITIGATION FOR STORM WATER BUT  NO MATTER HOW MUCH PLANNING  THEY DO FOR STORM WATER TO  PROPERTY RIGHT, HOWEVER, THEY  WHEN YOU HAVE A DEVELOPING  THAT COMES IN THEY WILL RAISE  THEIRS.  >> IT WILL RAISE THE AREA IT  WILL KNOW WANT THEY DO WITH  FEMA AND IT WILL NO LONGER BE  IN THE BUT THEN THE PEOPLE  SELL THEY HAVE TO ENSURE BY  DOING THAT.  >> THEY'RE NOT SHIPPING THAT  WATER SOUTH WATER TAKES THE  PATH OF LEAST RESISTANCE  THAT'S WHY WHEN WE LOOK AT  THIS AREA THAT MASTER STORM  WATER SYSTEM FOR THIS AREA  IMPROVEMENTS. IT'S SO  IMPORTANT. ANY OF IN FACT THE  AREAS THAT YOU SEE THAT AREN'T  IN THE FLOOD IN THE LADY  SLIPPER AREA ARE BECAUSE BUILT  THOSE LOCKED UP. IN MOST  CASES. THEY WERE IN THE FLOODS  OUT SO WHAT'S GETTING KILLED  AND THE LEMONS THAT WOULD THEN  BROUGHT THOSE UP. SO IT'S A.  THAT'S WHY YOU CONTINUE TO DO  THAT OUT 06:00AM LEE. YOU WILL  MAKE WORSE IT WILL MAKE THE  DOWNSTREAM FLOODING WORSE IN  THE NEIGHBORHOOD SOUTH. BUT IF  WE SHIFT. MITIGATIONS WE  ACTUALLY HAVE WATER  MITIGATION. AND IT IT WOULD  MAKE IT BETTER NOT JUST FOR  THAT AREA, BUT ALSO THE AREAS  TO THE SOUTH.  >> THANK YOU FOR BRINGING  BRING THAT UP AGAIN ABOUT THE  VALUE HAVING. DEVELOPMENT  TALKING ABOUT THIS THEY WOULD  HAVE TO CREATE A WATER SYSTEMS  THAT ACTUALLY. THAT ORDER  RIGHT NOW WATER MANAGEMENT  FLORIDA LAW SWELLS WHAT  SWELLING ITS OVERALL OUT AND  THAT'S LEE. HAVE THE FLOODING.  >> COMMISSIONER AND RICH DO  YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY OR  ASK ABOUT THIS.  >> IT WAS A GREAT AND YOU JUST  YOU JUST FILING JUST HIT  COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL THAT ONE  OF MY MAIN CONCERNS AS THIS  GOES FORWARD YOU'RE GOOD TO GO  WITH WHAT YOU WANT THAT WITH  THE STATE. BUT ONCE WE GET  DOWN INTO THE MEAT AND  POTATOES AND WORK ACTUALLY  GETS GOING ON. THAT IS A  HEAVILY FLOODED AREA AND HAS  MORE DEER COMES IN GETS BUILT  UP THE WATERS GOT TO GO  SOMEWHERE. THAT'S WHERE MY  MAIN CONCERN IS IS THE AFTER  EFFECTS ARE WE GOING TO CREATE  A PROBLEM. AREA THAT MAY NOT  HAVE A PROBLEM NOW, BUT WE'RE  JUST MOVING PROBLEM PROBLEM 8.  I KNOW THAT'S DOWN THE ROAD IS  JUST A CONCERN I HAVE AND  YOU'RE GOOD FOR NOW, BUT WE  PROGRESS JUST SOMETHING TO  KEEP AN EYE ON SO GREAT JOB.  THANK  >> OKAY DO WE HAVE ANY. PUBLIC  COMMENT.  >> CHUCK ENGLISH FOLLOWED BY  JOSH SMITH AND THEN ROBINSON  OF THE SAINT TIGHT. I.  >> WAS OUTSTANDING  PRESENTATION. IT REALLY WAS  VERY INFORMATIONAL FIBER GET A  COPY OF A POSSIBLE SEEMS AS  PART OF THE CONSENT. THAT  CONTROL READ THE BACKUP UNTIL  FLORIDA. ON THE AGENDA. THANK  YOU VERY MUCH. YOU COVERED A  LOT OF ISSUES ALL RIGHT.  BIGGEST ONE IS GOING TO BE.  PUT IN THERE. THE ROADS ARE  SECONDARY  ♪ DRAINAGE SO AND IN THE WITHIN  THE CITY. AND THEN ROADS WILL  CONTINUE TO FLOOD. AND AFTER I  READ ALL THIS GREAT  INFORMATION THEY HAVE A LOT  MORE SICK. BECAUSE I'M GOING  TO BE TOTALLY FOCUSED ON THAT  INTERCHANGE AND YOU KNOW WHY.  YOU KNOW THIS BILL.  >> LIKE ABOUT READING THE NAME  ON THE CARD SO IT'S SOMETHING  DIFFERENT THAN THE 3 OTHER  USUALLY THERE. I'M THE  HOPELESS NOT FIGHT YOU GOT I'M  THE RESIDENT, YOU KNOW HELP  THE CITY. LET'S STOP THIS. AND  LORD HAVE MERCY MAN I KNOW YOU  GUYS HAVE A 20% COMMERCIAL IN  YOUR HEAD. I KNOW YOU'RE  HAMMERED OUT TO GET THERE.  LET'S LINE BANK YOU I'M  PROBABLY ON THIS ONE. ANSWER  ISN'T 20%. NO MATTER WHAT IT  CAN'T ON THE FUTURE START OF  THE YOUNG AROUND. WELL KEEP  SAYING PEEPS AND LATER ON SOME  OF PLAY BALL. AND I'LL TELL  YOU THAT IF THE BILL IS A  LITTLE HEAVIER FOR WHEN YOU  DRIVE AROUND CORNER WE STILL  HAVE AREAS THAT GREAT. I'M  OKAY WITH THAT. UNFORTUNATELY  WHERE BIDEN HAD A POINT WHERE  WE DON'T GET 20%. NO MATTER  WHAT. MISTER SPOKESMAN SOME  PEOPLE IN LITTLE NORMAL. YOUR  REAL CLOSE TO THE COAST TO  COST MONEY. DON'T WANT TO BE  THAT BUT WE CANNOT. CONCRETE  NO MATTER WHAT. I GET GROWTH I  THAT BUT THERE'S TO BE A  MOMENT WHERE YOU LOOK AT  SOMETHING ON MOTHER NATURE  SAYS NOT. WOMAN GET STARTED  ABOUT EVENT LATER RESPECT FOR.  SO JUST PLEASE KEEP THAT IN  MIND LIKE I SAID I'M YOUNG  ROOMS ALL TOGETHER BEST FOOT  THE BILL. MISTER STOKES LIKELY  UNDERSTAND YOUR ECONOMICS, NO  OUT. YOU KNOW YOU'VE GOT A  LOOK AT IT AND WELL. BUT A LOT  AND THAT IS RIGHT ON THE  RIVER. IT YOU'RE NEVER TOO  PEOPLE ARE OUT THERE I KNOW  THAT CITY STAFF TIME AND JUST  KEEP GOING UP. FROM THE GREAT  STATE OF MICHIGAN. WE'RE NOT  THE LAKES. A PROMISE YOU WANT  TO SOMEWHERE. WE HAVE  COMMUNITY THAT WENT ACROSS  THIS BEAUTIFUL PLACE TO LIVE  NEXT TO HIM. THEY PROMISED US  THAT WHEN THEY BELIEVE THAT  THE WOMAN FLED MYANMAR. ALL I  KNOW LOT THAT. SO LIKE I SAID  JUST. I GET 20% I GET  COMMERCIAL BUILDING. BUT EVERY  NOW AND THEN JUST RESPECT  MOTHER NATURE. THANK YOU GUYS  VERY MUCH.  >> ROBIN SAID  >> THE CENTER.  >> THAT WE GREAT PRESENTATION,  GREAT EXPLANATIONS. THANK YOU.  IT WAS VERY CLEAR AND WE  UNDERSTAND AND THAT THE  CITIZENS REALLY APPRECIATE  APPRECIATE THE EXPLANATION IS  THAT YOU GUYS GAVE. AND I HAVE  TO REPEAT WHAT JUST JUST SAID.  THERE WAS SOME AREAS MORE THAN  A JUST SAYS NO. JUST NOT WOODS  NEVER GOING TO WORK. YOU'RE  GOING TO CONSTANTLY BE  MITIGATING AND YOU'RE JUST  GOING TO BE MAKING IT WORSE  DOWN THE ROAD DOWN THE ROAD  YOU CAN TO KEEP PUSHING  PUSHING AND PUSHING IT TOO  THERE'S NO WAY TO PUSH IT NO  MORE. BOTH SQUADRONS AND IN  THE SECTIONS THAT ARE KEY A  LOGICAL A SIGNIFICANT. WHAT  EVEN LOOKING AT ADDRESSING  THAT WHOLE THING. I MEAN WE  CAN'T HAVE ANY KIND EVEN LET  RECREATION ON PARTICULAR  APOSTLES. AND NOT ONLY THAT.  BUT AS GOING THROUGH THIS AND  YOU'RE GIVING YOUR COMMENTS  ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR ACTIVITY  CENTER. AND THAT NEEDS TO BE  INCORPORATED INTO THE USES OF  THAT PARTICULAR ACTIVITY  CENTER THAT NEEDS TO BE  UPDATED. IN ORDER TO PROVIDE  FOR THE SENSITIVITY OF CERTAIN  QUADRANTS IN THAT PARTICULAR  AREA. SO I'M JUST GOING TO DO  WHAT EVERYBODY HAS BEEN SAYING  HERE AND I THANK YOU BECAUSE  I'M REALLY HAVING SOME GOOD  CONCERNS COMING FROM THE  COMMISSION BECAUSE IT'S NOT  JUST ALL ABOUT THE MONEY SOME  PLACES. THANK YOU. THANK THAT  WAS IT A CAN.  >> HOW WE WANT TAKE A SHORT  BREAK.  >> JUST SAY ONE YES, PROVIDE A  LITTLE CLARIFICATION 2019  STORMWATER STUDY WE HAVE THE  CONSULTANT WHO AT THAT POINT  IN TIME THE CITY DECIDED TO GO  WITH SOME MORE MAINTENANCE  TYPE ACTIVITIES WITH RESPECT  TO DRAINAGE AND STORM WATER  IMPROVEMENTS JUST TO ADDRESS  SOME OF OUR FLOODING PROBLEMS.  BUT THERE WERE SEVERAL OTHER  THINGS IN THE STUDY SEVERAL  OTHER OPTIONS THAT WE DID NOT  PURSUE THESE ARE THOSE OPTIONS  THAT MISTER SPEAKER IS NOW  TAKING A  LOOK AT SEE WHICH ONE OF MAY  ABLE TO FACILITATE HELPING  RESOLVE THIS DRAINAGE ISSUE.  HOSPITAL COMING IN WE'VE GOT  SOME OTHER THINGS COMING IN ON  SUMPTER AND 75, WE'VE GOT TO  ADDRESS REPORTING PROBLEMS AND  ON THE ROADWAYS THAT HAS TO BE  TAKEN CARE OF WE'RE GOING TO  HAVE THE I 75 IMPROVEMENTS. AT  SUMPTER SO IT'S IT'S NOT THAT  IT WAS THE COUNTY OR ANYBODY  ELSE THAT WE STOPPED HAVING  DISCUSSIONS WITH STARTS IN  DISCUSSIONS ON SOME OF THE  OPTIONS FOR EXAMPLE HOLDING  SOME OF THE WATER TO THE NORTH  AND SOME OF THE UPLAND AREAS  RESERVOIR CONVERSATION ALL  THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO  BACK TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE  OPTIONS AND SEE WHAT WE CAN GO  BACK AND PURSUE. WE ALSO  SOUTHWEST FORWARD IS THAT JUST  OR COOPERATE FUNDING. IF YOU  CAN SHOW THAT IT'S GOING TO  HAVE A REGIONAL BENEFIT, CAN  GO AFTER SOME OF THOSE WHICH  WE HAVE IN THE PAST  SUCCESSFULLY ACHIEVED SO THOSE  JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THE  CITY CHOSE JUST PURSUE CERTAIN  OPTIONS. WE HAVE IDENTIFIED  SOME OTHER THINGS WE'RE GOING  HAVE TO GO BACK AND TAKE A  LOOK AT. AND I THINK  COMMISSIONER YES, I JUST HAVE  A REQUEST I WOULD LOVE TO SEE  THAT 2019 REPORT I WAS ON THE  COMMISSION AT THAT TIME YES  MA'AM THANK YOU PRETTY  >> OK SO WE A CAR 10 MINUTES.  THANK YOU FOR THAT  PRESENTATION RATE INCREASE  STAFF I WE HAVE TO WAIT AND  ♪ >> I COME ACROSS A LOT ACADIA  WANT TO DO THAT SO.  >> OKAY, SO IF YOU HAVE ANY  QUESTIONS YOU CAN ALWAYS LOOK  AT OUR WEBSITE WW DOT NORTH  PORT  ♪ >> FLORIDA DOT GOV SLASH SOLID  WASTE.  >> I'M STACEY LOSO I'M THE  EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT  COORDINATOR FOR THE CITY  OF NORTH PORT AND WE'RE GOING  TO TALK ABOUT WHY IT'S  IMPORTANT TO HAVE A GO KIT AND  WHAT SHOULD GO INSIDE OF IT,  IT'S IMPORTANT HAVE A GO BAG  BECAUSE IF YOU WAIT LAST  MINUTE TO PACK THEY'RE  DEFINITELY GOING TO BE ITEMS  THAT YOU'RE GOING TO FORGET  AND THE SCRAMBLE TO GET  EVERYTHING TOGETHER SO IT'S  IMPORTANT TO YOUR DOCUMENTS  SUCH AS ID'S INSURANCE  PAPERWORK TITLES FOR YOUR HOME  AND YOUR VEHICLES AND YOUR  BOATS JUST SO THAT IF YOUR  HOME DOES FLOOD OR ALL THOSE  DOCUMENTS ARE WITH YOU AND  THEY'RE SAFE BECAUSE YOU DON'T  WANT TO END UP LOSING THOSE  AND HAVING TO TRY TO REPLACE  THOSE LATER ON ALSO IN YOUR GO  BAG THAT YOU SHOULD THINK  ABOUT WHAT MEDICATIONS YOU  MIGHT NEED TO HAVE AHEAD OF  TIME FOR UNDER A STATE OF  EMERGENCY YOU ARE ABLE TO  REFILL PRESCRIPTIONS AHEAD OF  TIME EVEN IF THEY'RE NOT DO  YET. SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO DO  THAT ALSO IN YOUR GO BAGS YOU  SHOULD HAVE NON-PERISHABLE  FOOD FLASHLIGHT BATTERIES, A  RADIO THAT IS BATTERY POWERED  AND EXTRA BATTERIES SHOULD ALL  POWER GO OUT WE WILL BE ABLE  TO BROADCAST ON 97.5 FM ANY  EMERGENCY INFORMATION SO BE  SURE TO HAVE BATTERY POWERED  RADIO READY IN TUNED IN TO 97  POINT.  ♪ >> I'M STACEY LOS ALE AND THE  EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT  COORDINATOR FOR THE CITY  OF NORTH PORT AND I'M GOING TO  TELL YOU THE DIFFERENCE  BETWEEN FLOOD ZONES AND  EVACUATION ZONES ARE IN  SARASOTA COUNTY. WE CALL THEM  EVACUATION LEVELS.  >> SO FLOOD ZONES ARE  GENERATED BY FEMA AND THEY'RE  USED TO DETERMINE THE  LIKELIHOOD THAT YOU'LL FLOOD  AND THEY'RE USED TO DETERMINE  IF YOU NEED FLOOD INSURANCE IF  YOU HAVE A MORTGAGE ON YOUR  HOME. NOW THE EVACUATION ZONES  ARE BASED ON STORM SURGE DATA  THAT COMES FROM THE NATIONAL  HURRICANE CENTER. AND THEY USE  TOPOGRAPHY AS WELL AS  HURRICANE VULNERABILITY FOR  STORM SURGE FOR THE AREA AND  WE USE THOSE TO DETERMINE WHO  NEEDS TO EVACUATE DURING A  STORM SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO  UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A  DIFFERENCE IF YOU'RE  INTERESTED IN FINDING OUT WHAT  EVACUATION ZONE YOU ARE AND  WHICH WE HIGHLY RECOMMEND YOU  DO. YOU CAN USE YOUR SEARCH  ENGINE OF CHOICE. AND TYPE  SARASOTA COUNTY KNOW YOUR  LEVEL AND THAT WILL TAKE YOU  TO THE SARASOTA COUNTY  GOVERNMENT WEBSITE.  >> WATER IN US WELL THAT'S  KIND OF THE DITCH. MY YOUR  HOUSE IS NOT FLOODING.  ♪ WITHIN US AFTER STORM EVENT.  >> WATER SHOULD  ♪ >> BE IN THAT SWELL UP TO 72  HOURS AFTER THE STORM. THAT  ALLOWS THE FILTER TO GET THE  STUFF THAT CAME FOR ROOM AND  THE ROAD OUT OF THE WATER SO  THAT WHEN REACHES THE HABITAT  IT NO LONGER HAS THOSE  CONTAMINANTS  ♪ AND ALSO PROVIDES OPPORTUNITY  TO SLOW DOWN WATERS SO THAT  THE WATER DOESN'T GO SO FAST  THAT THEIR ROADS.  >> ROADWAYS ANY OTHER  INFRASTRUCTURE, SO WHEN YOU  SEE WATER IN ONLY YOU KNOW UP  TO  ♪ >> 72 HOURS SINCE THE LAST  RAIN THAT IS NOT LETTING IS  DOING ITS JOB.  >> HELLO MY NAME'S A VAN FULL  PRODUCT FACILITY MANAGER WITH  THE CITY OF NORTH PORT AND  TODAY WE'RE GOING TO BE  TALKING WITH YOU GUYS ABOUT  OUR FREE SWIM EVALUATION. IT'S  IMPORTANT THAT WE DO NEED FROM  A VALUATION SO KIDS  REGISTERING FOR SWIM PROGRAMS  THEY GET PLACED IN THE RIGHT  CLASS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT  DOING SOMETHING THAT YOU ATION  IS EVERY SWIM LEVEL HAS WHAT'S  CALLED EXIT SKILL ASSESSMENTS.  SO WHAT WE DO IS WE HAVE YOUR  CHILD GET IN THE WATER AND  WILL GO THROUGH A SERIES OF  DIFFERENT MOVEMENTS CAN YOU GO  INTO THE WATER I CAN YOU SHOW  US YOUR PHONE CALL CAN YOU  SHOW US BACK SHOWS ELEMENTARY  BACK DIFFERENT STROKES WITHIN  AND WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE  TRYING TO SEE. YOUR CHILD TEST  TO BEFORE IT BECOMES A  CHALLENGE FOR AT THAT POINT  WHAT WE ASSESS THAT THAT WILL  LET YOU KNOW AND YOU CAN GO  AHEAD AND SIGN YOUR CHILD UP  FOR THAT APPROPRIATE LEVEL  THERE. IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE  HAVE THESE SO THAT WAY WHEN  WE'RE TEACHING A LEVEL ONE WE  DON'T HAVE KIDS THAT SHOULD  POTENTIALLY A LEVEL 2 AND  LEVEL ONE CLASS BECAUSE  THEY'RE NOT LEARNING THE  APPROPRIATE SKILLS THAT THEY  NEEDED THAT POINT IN TIME  RIGHT NOW WHEN WE'RE IN FULL  SUMMER WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE  COME BETWEEN 8.10 DEDUCE FROM  A VALUATION JUST AS YOU CAN  HEAR THE WATER SPLASHING IN  THE BACKGROUND SLIDE.  EVERYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT ANY  DAY OF THE THAT OPEN YOU CAN  COME IN AT ANY POINT IN TIME  ENOUGH FOR EVALUATIONS WE  ALWAYS HAVE A CERTIFIED SO  MUCH DOCTOR ON SITE THAT HAVE  YOUR CHILD TAKE A SWIM  ASSESSMENT.  ♪ >> STACEY LASALLE AND THE  EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT  COORDINATOR FOR THE CITY  OF NORTH PORT AND I'M GOING TO  BE TALKING ABOUT HAVING AN  EVACUATION PLAN IT'S A POINT  HAVE AN EVACUATION PLAN AHEAD  OF TIME AND IT'S VERY  IMPORTANT TO WRITE IT DOWN  BECAUSE THAT WAY YOU HAVE IT  SOMEWHERE PRESENT EVERYBODY IN  YOUR FAMILY CAN SEE IT AND  KEEP IT FRESH IN THEIR MINDS  AND YOU ALSO SHARE IT WITH  PEOPLE IN YOUR FAMILY OR YOUR  NEIGHBORS SO THAT THEY KNOW  WHAT YOUR PLANS ARE AHEAD OF  TIME AND HOW TO GET A HOLD OF  YOUR WAY TO LOOK FOR YOU AFTER  A DISASTER FOR YOUR EVACUATION  YOU SHOULD HAVE MULTIPLE  ROUTES TO GET TO LOCATION.  YOU'RE PLANNING TO GO TO JUST  BECAUSE TRAFFIC WAS TRAFFIC ON  75 MIGHT BE GRIDLOCKED THERE  COULD BE SOME VERY GOOD BACK  ROADS TO GET TO WHERE YOU'RE  GOING THAT COULD GET YOU THERE  MORE QUICKLY WITHOUT BEING  STUCK IN TRAFFIC WHEN YOU'RE  MAKING EVACUATION PLAN. WE  USUALLY TELL YOU 4 DIFFERENT  THINGS YOU SHOULD STAY HOME IF  YOU ARE NOT IN HIS OWN THAT'S  BEING EVACUATED AND IF YOUR  HOME IS BUILT TO WITHSTAND THE  FORECASTED STORM IF YOU CAN  STAY HOME. AND YOU EVACUATE  YOUR NEXT OPTION SHOULD BE TO  GO TO A FRIEND OUR FAMILY'S  HOME THAT IS OUTSIDE OF THE  EVACUATION AREA AND IT IS  STRUCTURALLY SOUND TO US AND  THE STORM OPTION WOULD BE GO  TO A HOTEL. THEY'RE MUCH MORE  COMFORTABLE THAN I'VE  ACCUSATION. CENTER'S 4TH  OPTION WOULD BE TO GO TO ONE  OF OUR EVACUATION CENTER  SARASOTA COUNTY HAS FALLEN  BACK AWAY SHUNS CENTER'S.  THOSE CAN BE FOUND ON THEIR  WEBSITE.  >> WHY DO WE FLOOD. DURING  SIGNIFICANT RAIN EVENTS NORTH  PORT NEARLY ALWAYS FLOODS IN  CERTAIN AREAS OF THE CITY.  THIS IS THANKS TO THE LOCALLY  NAMED MYAKKA HACHI CREEK ALSO  KNOWN AS THE BIG SLEW  WATERSHED.  >> THE 195 SQUARE MILE  DRAINAGE AREA FLOWS THROUGH  DESOTO MANATEE AND SARASOTA  COUNTIES THEN THROUGH OUR CITY  TO EXIT AT CHARLOTTE HARBOR.  AS THE CITY OF NORTH PORT IS  LOCATED AT THE LOW END OF THE  BIG SLEW WATERSHED DRAINAGE  SYSTEM. THE CITY'S CURRENT  FLOODING AND WATER QUALITY  CONDITIONS ARE ATTRIBUTED NOT  ONLY TO THE CITY'S GROWTH. BUT  ALSO TO UPSTREAM RUNOFF IN THE  DESOTO MANATEE AND SARASOTA  COUNTY PORTIONS OF THE BIG  SLOW. DURING SIGNIFICANT RAIN  EVENTS PONDING CAN ALSO OCCUR  PONDING OCCURS AND LOW-LYING  AREAS THAT ARE CHARACTERIZED  BY POORLY DRAINED OR SUPER  SATURATED SOILS WITH  BACK-TO-BACK RAINFALL EVENTS  THE GROUND IS TOTALLY  SATURATED WHICH INCREASES THE  RUNOFF DURING A STORM. THE  CITY WORKS HARD TO MAINTAIN  ITS STORMWATER CONVEYANCE  SYSTEM WHICH IS COMPRISED OF  ROADSIDE SWALES DRAINING INTO  79 MILES OF NAMED WATERWAYS.  >> AND 132 MILES OF RETENTION  DITCHES THAT INTERCONNECT WITH  EACH OTHER AND WITH THE MYAKKA  HACHI CREEK. THERE ARE 64  WATER CONTROL STRUCTURES OF  WHICH 23 ARE GATED WATER  CONTROL STRUCTURES 5 ARE GATED  DROP STRUCTURES, 28 ARE FIXED.  WE'RE STRUCTURES AND 8 ARE  DROPPED STRUCTURES. THE  CONTROL ELEVATIONS OF THESE  STRUCTURES ARE DESIGNED SO  THAT WATER IS RETAINED IN THE  WATERWAYS AND A STEP-DOWN  ELEVATION SYSTEM  CONFIGURATION.  >> THIS MEANS THE WATER LEVELS  IN THE WATERWAY SEGMENTS  BETWEEN STRUCTURES  PROGRESSIVELY DECREASES IN  ELEVATION FROM NORTH TO SOUTH  AND FROM EAST TO WEST. THIS  SYSTEM CONFIGURATION ALLOWS  BOTH RETENTION OF STORM WATER  RUNOFF FOR WATER QUALITY  TREATMENT AND STORAGE FOR  POTABLE WATER USE IN  PREPARATION FOR A STORM, THE  GATES ARE OPENED AS NEEDED TO  CONVEY A FLOOD WATERS.  >> HAS AN ONGOING PROGRAM TO  INSPECT AND REPLACE OLD  CORRODED STRUCTURES SINCE 2000  WE GO IT AND WE'RE RECONVENING  ARE MEANING WORK MOVING ON TO.  >> ITEM 6 PUBLIC HEARINGS.  ITEM A ORDINANCE 2024 DASH 0,  8, CITY CLERK COULD YOU READ  THIS I I WILL ONLY.  >> ORDINANCE NUMBER 4 DASH 0,  OR CITY IN NORTH PARK FLORIDA  ANNEXING APPROXIMATELY ONE 0.7  1, 6 ACRES OF REAL PROPERTY  LOCATED IN THE TRADE AREA  SARASOTA COUNTY FLORIDA  CONTINUOUS TO THE EXISTING  CITY LIMITS OF THE FL, THE  DEFINING THE BOUNDARY LINES OF  THE CITY OF NORTH PORT TO  INCLUDE THIS PROPERTY  PROVIDING FOR FINDINGS  PROVIDING FOR ANNEXATION  AMENDING ZONING MAP BIDEN FOR  ASSESSMENT AND TAXATION  PROVIDING FILING THE DOCUMENT  PROVIDED FOR COMPLEX PROVIDING  FOR SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING  AN EFFECTIVE DATE.  >> THANK YOU CITY MANAGER THIS  IS YOUR ITEM.  >> THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR OF  THE CITY COMMISSION VOTED  UNANIMOUSLY TO CONTINUES  CONTINUE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024  DASH 8 AS PRESIDENT A SECOND  READING AT THE REGULAR  MEETING. IN ACCORDANCE WITH 4  FLORIDA STATUTES SECTION 1, 6,  2, 6, 4, 0, 4, 1, 4, 8, THE  CITY TIMING POSTED IS EFFECT  AS THAT ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE  ON OR BEFORE THE DATE THE  NEWSPAPER PUBLISHED LIST OF  ORDINANCES FINAL READING. WE  ASKED TODAY THAT YOU TO  ORDINANCE NUMBER 2. YOU KNOW  TO PUT WAY AND THINGS GO WELL  THAT AREA AND ASIAN.  >> OK THANK YOU. MOVING ON TO  COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS AND I  THINK IT WAS SOMETHING FIRST  READING WANTED TO KNOW WE'LL  SO KIND.  >> IT WAS SOMETHING NEW.  >> TO STAY.  >> I'M NOT SAYING ANY  QUESTIONS. DO WE HAVE ANY  PUBLIC COMMENT. ALL RIGHT SOME  POSING PORTION OF THE PUBLIC  HEARING  >> HAPPY TO MAKE OKAY HAVE AND  MOVE TO ORDINANCE NUMBER 2, 0,  2, 4, DASH 0, 8, HAS PRESENTED  BACK IN.  >> ALL RIGHT HAVE A MOTION  MADE BY VICE MAYOR STOKED TO  ADOPT ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024  DASH 0, 8, AS PRESENTED AND  THAT WAS SECONDED BY  COMMISSIONER LANGDON THERE'S  NOTHING ELSE WILL DO A VOICE  VOTE. VICE MAYOR OF THE YES  THEY ARE WHITE IS YES LANGDON  YES, AND COMMISSIONER EMRICH.  >> COMMISSIONER MUCH YES, OKAY  SO THAT PASSES 5, 0 ALL RIGHT.  WITH A RECORD IT.  >> MOVING ON TO ITEM B.  ORDINANCE 2024 DASH 0, 6, CITY  CLERK AND YOU READ THIS ONE BY  TITLE ONLY.  >> ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH  0, ORDINANCE THE FL AMENDING  THE CODE OF  THE CITY OF NORTH PORT, FL  CHAPTER ARTICLE 10 REGARDING  HISTORIC CULTURAL ADVISORY  BOARD WRITING FOR FINDINGS  PROVIDING FOR COMPLEX  PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY  PROVIDING CODIFICATION AND  PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.  THIS IS THE SECOND READING OF  THE ORDINANCE FIRST READING  THERE WAS A MOTION TO AMEND  THE LANGUAGE ONLINE 63  REGARDING APPOINTMENT OF FIRE  BOARD MEMBERS THAT CLARIFYING  LANGUAGE HAS BEEN ADDED. OK  THANK YOU. QUESTIONS.  >> ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE ANY  PUBLIC COMMENT ON ALL RIGHT.  I'M GOING TO CLOSE PORTION OF  THE PUBLIC HEARING AND YES, GO  AHEAD COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL  WITH THE MOTION.  >> ON THANK YOU JOY THAT FROM  THE 2, 0, 2, 4, DASH 0, 6, S  AND SECOND.  >> ALL RIGHT I HAVE A MOTION  MADE BY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL  TO ADOPT ORDINANCE NUMBER 2020  FORECAST DASH 0, 6, AS  PRESENTED AND THAT WAS  SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER  LANGDON. IF THERE'S NOTHING  ELSE WILL DO A VOICE VOTE VICE  MAYOR I AM A YES THEY ARE WHY  DOES THE U.S.. COMMISSIONER  LANGDON YES, NO YES.  COMMISSIONER HEMORRHAGE.  >> COMMISSIONER YES.  >> ALL RIGHT SO THAT. PASSES 5  TO 0. ALL RIGHT MOVING ON TO  RESOLUTION ITEM C. 2024 DASH R  DASH 0, 8,  >> CAR CAN BE BY TITLE  RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024 DASH R  DASH 0, 8, A RESOLUTION OF THE  CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY  IN NORTH PORT FLORIDA  REPEALING RESIGNATION NUMBER  2023 DASH R DASH 74.  TEMPORARILY SUSPENDED THE  HISTORIC CULTURAL ADVISORY  BOARD BY FRANK CORPORATION OF  RECITALS COMPLEX BY  SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING AN  EFFECTIVE DATE. AND NOVEMBER  2022 PASSED A RESOLUTION TO  TEMPORARILY SUSPEND THE COACH  THE HISTORIC AND CULTURAL  ADVISORY BOARD AND JANUARY ONE  2024 AND 12/12/2020 GREAT  APPROVED RESOLUTION 2023 DASH  R DASH 74. LET'S REPEAL  RESOLUTION 2022 6 A TEXAN  CONTINUE THE TEMPORARY  PRESIDENT SUSPENSION OF ANY  OPERATION OF THE HISTORIC AND  CULTURAL ADVISORY BOARD UNTIL  JANUARY ONE 2025. COMMISSION  PROVIDE DIRECTION TOO BRING  THIS RESOLUTION TO RESCIND  THOSE AND 2. REINSTATE THE  HISTORIC AND CULTURAL ADVISORY  BOARD. OKAY.  >> DO WE HAVE ANY OBS QUESTION  DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT.  THERE'S NOT OKAY. I CLOSE  PORTION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING  AND. WE PARKING DIDN'T IS NOT  THIS IS NOT OKAY MAKE A MOTION  TO RESOLUTION NUMBER  >> ALL  >> RIGHT WE HAVE A MOTION MADE  BY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL TO  ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024  DASH R DASH 0, 8,  >> AND THAT WAS SECONDED BY  VICE MAYOR CONTROL AND WE'LL  DO A VOICE VOTE VICE MAYOR AND  THE MAYOR WHITE IS YES.  COMMISSIONER AND YES YES, AND  COMMISSIONER AVERAGE.  >> COMMISSIONER AM WHICH IS  AND.  >> ALL RIGHT MOVING ON TO  GENERAL BUSINESS. ITEM 24 DASH  0, 6, 0, 1, CLERK. THIS IS  YOUR ITEM.  ♪ >> REGARDING ENVIRONMENTAL  ADVISORY BOARD MEMORANDUMS  TITLED ENVIRONMENT A SCORECARD  ESTA SIDE LAND ACQUISITION  CONSERVATION EASEMENTS A  COMMUNITY GARDEN. DURING  COMMISSION MEETING ON 4/9/2024  IN MOTION WAS MADE TO CONTINUE  THIS AGENDA ITEM TO THE APRIL  23RD 2024 MEETING. OKAY.  >> MOVING ON TO.  >> QUESTION. SO. COMMISSIONER  LANGDON.  >> THANK YOU MAYOR I'D LIKE TO  HEAR FROM OUR NATURAL  RESOURCES. MANAGER TO GET HIS  INPUT. AND SUGGESTIONS  REGARDING THESE TOPICS.  >> GOOD EVENING. STEPHEN  KALIN, NATURAL RESOURCES  MANAGER.  >> THIS IS YOUR FIRST TIME  HERE YEAH, PRESENTATION AT THE  DAY IT'S FIRST TIME ABSOLUTELY  IN THANK YOU. SO REGARDING THE  FIRST.  >> MEMO I CAN PROVIDE IN  ADDITION TO THE. LANE WHICH  AND RECOMMENDATIONS BY THE  ENVIRONMENTAL ADVISORY BOARD.  I CAN PROVIDE US SOME OF MY.  EXPERTISE REGARDING THE MATTER  IF I START WITH THE FIRST MEMO  WHICH PERTAINING TO THE  ENVIRONMENTAL SCORE PART. SO  CREATION OF OF AN  ENVIRONMENTAL SCORE CARD FOR  THE CITY OF NORTH PORT'S IS A  FEASIBLE AND OFFICIALLY  BENEFICIAL AND EVER. THE  PROCESS CAN BEGIN WITH THE  COLLECTION. CONSOLIDATION OF  EXISTING ENVIRONMENTAL BAIT  DATA FROM DIFFERENT ENTITIES.  FEDERAL STATE AGENCIES AND  ENTITIES AS WELL SUCH DATA IS  AVAILABLE.  IN MY OPINION MY EXPERIENCE  EASILY ACCESSIBLE. CURRENTLY  WITH THE NATURAL RESOURCES  DIVISION IN WE HAVE THE  CAPACITY TO GATHER SOME OF  THAT DATA. AND ALSO WHILE  WORKING IN PARTNERING OTHER  ENTITIES AND OTHER CITY  DEPARTMENTS. I THINK THAT WE  HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO  GENERATE AN EXCELLENCE  ENVIRONMENTAL SCORE CARTS.  THAT WILL BENEFIT OUR CITY.  WILL PROVIDE CRUCIAL  INFORMATION THAT'S EASILY  ACCESSIBLE TO OUR CITIZENS.  WILL HELP WITH PRIORITIZING  SOME OF OUR FUTURE GOALS.  THE GOAL SPARTZ IS ALSO  SOMETHING THAT I WANTED TO  IT'S A I DON'T BELIEVE THAT  THAT ANCIENTS IN ATTACHMENTS  LATE WHICH BUT I BELIEVE THAT.  KNOWING WHERE WE ARE AS FAR AS  SOME OF THESE ENVIRONMENTAL  PARAMETERS. YOU KNOW REALLY  HELP US  OUR YOU NEEDED GOALS. AND IF  COMMISSION HAS ANY MORE THAN  HAPPY ANSWER.  >> OK SO THIS IS REGARDING THE  ONE ABOUT THEY. OUR  >> YES, YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT.  COULD YOU OUT. YEAH SO.  >> I UNDERSTAND THAT THE SCORE  CARD IS GOING TO KIND OF GIVE  US THE FOUNDATION WHERE WE ARE  TODAY. HOW IS THAT GOING TO  HELP TOMORROW. HOW HOW WILL IT  BE YOU JUST.  >> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. SO  IS WE TRACK. AND IF WE HAPPEN  TO PRODUCE SUCH ENVIRONMENTAL  SCOPE SCORECARDS. FOR EXAMPLE  ON ANNUAL BASIS. ONCE WE DO  SUCH ONCE WE HAVE THAT DATA.  THE SOLID OR CARTS AND WE HAVE  THIS DATA FOR LET'S SAY FEW  YEARS. FEW CONSECUTIVE YEAR  YEARS THAT WILL GIVE GIVE US  AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE  POTENTIAL TRENDS WHICH CAN BE.  AND OPPORTUNITY DESIGN OUR OWN  EXPECTIONS TO FALL.  >> NONE OF THE OTHER THINGS IS  THAT.  >> ACCORDING TO THE MEMO THEY  WANT TO ENSURE THAT THE CITY  IS BEING COMPLIANT WITH STATE  FEDERAL REGULATIONS FOR THE  ENVIRONMENT. NOT SURE  SCORECARD IS GOING HELP THAT  >> THE.  >> WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THOSE  THOSE REQUIREMENTS THAT  THERE'S NO IFS ANDS OR BUTS  ABOUT THAT SO I I THAT TOO  SURE ABOUT THAT PART OF IT HAS  BEEN INCLUDED IN THE SCORE  CARD BECAUSE THAT. AND DO. THE  TREE CANOPY THAT WAS ALSO  MENTIONED IS ALREADY UNDERWAY.  WE'RE DOING THE TREE CANOPY  SURVEYOR STUDY I THINK YOU  GUYS ARE WORKING ON THAT THE  WATER QUALITY YES, WE ARE  ALREADY TESTING IN CERTAIN  AREAS.  >> I WOULD LOVE TO SEE. THOSE  SURVEY RESULTS OF THOSE TESTED  AREAS SHOW. I KNOW AT ONE 0.2  SUPER LOS THAT WAS USED.  >> AS THE.  >> AND TO MARK. BUT WE ALSO  ASKED TO MAKE SURE THAT OTHER  AREAS WERE TESTED BECAUSE OF  A. FOR WE WANTED TO HAVE  BASELINE. SO INCASE MOSAIC WAS  EVER ABLE TO DO THERE. I MEAN  UP IN DESOTO COUNTY. I HAVEN'T  SEEN ANY OF THE DATA FROM  THOSE WATER QUALITY TESTS AND  I THINK IT WOULD BE PRUDENT  NOT ONLY TO SHARE WITH THE  COMMISSION BUT ALSO WITH THE E  A D SO THAT WE THEN WE CAN  SHOW THEM THAT WE ARE DOING  THIS. AND THE AREAS THAT THEY  TESTED FOR THE SUCRALOSE. I  THINK WE PROBABLY ALSO NEED TO  TEST FOR OTHER THINGS. AND  JUST CLOSE TO MAKE SURE THAT  THERE'S NO OTHER THE SYSTEM  AND IN OUR WATER SUPPLY AND  NOTICE THE UTILITIES  DEPARTMENT HAS TO DO WATER  TESTING. IT WOULD BE VERY  INTERESTING TO SEE THOSE  RESULTS AND I GET THAT IT WILL  BE PART OF THE SCORECARD BUT.  THIS IS ALREADY BEEN DONE SO  IT'S NOT SOMETHING SO. >> THERE  THEY'RE DIFFERENT  AMES. ACTUALLY AIR SCORED  FAIRLY EASILY COMPARED TO SOME  OF SOME OF THE OTHER  PARAMETERS THAT THERE'S  USUALLY. I A FAIRLY LOW VALUES  SO DEPENDENT ON. WHERE WE ARE  AS FAR AS SOME OF THE DATA  THAT'S ALREADY AVAILABLE ON A  FEDERAL LEVEL. AND THERE'S  SOME DATA. WITHIN OUR VICINITY  SARASOTA COUNTY. THAT WE COULD  POTENTIALLY USE. I I ALSO  WANTED TO MENTION THAT THESE  ARE. THESE ARE SOME ABOUT MY  THOUGHTS OUR NATURAL RESOURCES  DIVISION TEAM THERE MAY BE  ADDITIONAL VOTES FROM OUR  PUBLIC WORKS PARKS AND REC AS  WELL. ALSO THAT SOME OF THE.  LANGUAGE HERE MAY NOT BE  IDEAL.  >> AS FAR THIS IS FOR SUCH A  PROJECT.  >> BUT I THINK THAT OVERALL  GENERAL  >> THE IDEA IN IN MY  >> IS GREAT ANY WILL PROVIDE  TRANSPARENCY TO OUR CITIZENS.  >> COMMISSIONER LANGDON.  >> THANK YOU I WOULD THINK  HAVING THIS TRACKING WOULD BE  A GREAT WAY FOR YOU TO MEASURE  THE IMPACT OF YOUR TEAM AND I  TOTALLY GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING  YOU KNOW ONCE YOU HAVE 2 OR 3  OR 4. ANNUAL MEASUREMENTS, THE  VALUE WAS IN THE TRENDING DAY  THAT READ THE GETTING BETTER  YOU'RE STAYING IN THE SAME OR  YOU'RE GETTING I. YOU KNOW  TELL ME IF I'M WRONG BUT I  THINK THIS WOULD BE A GREAT  TOOL FOR YOUR TEAM TO HAVE TO  TRACK THE THE IMPACT THAT  YOU'RE HAVING WITH WOULD YOU  AGREE WITH THAT.  >> YOU WOULD ONLY HELP. SO I  DO AGREE WITH THAT.  >> I THINK DURING THIS WOULD  BE A GREAT IDEA. AND VERY  SUPPORTIVE OF AND WANT YEAH.  >> AND I COMMENTS ONE IS AS A  FORMER.  >> FUTURE I KNOW THE VALUE  HAVING MEASURABLE RESULTS.  >> AND THAT'S WHAT THIS WOULD  NOT TO SAY YEAH WE THINK IT'S  OK YOU HAVE THAT START WITH  YOUR BASE BY AND THEN YOU CAN  TELL WHERE YOU WE'RE GOING  FROM THERE AND I LIKE SO MANY  OF THE E AB CAME UP WITH  THESE. QUALITY WATER QUALITY  KIND OF I THINK REALLY COMPASS  EVERYTHING WILDLIFE. AND AGAIN  IT WOULD SEE WHETHER WHERE WE  ARE WE AND AND TAKING CARE OF  THINGS AND WHERE WE NEED MAYBE  DIRECT OUR ENERGIES MONIES.  FOR THAT SO I THINK IT'S IT'S  A GREAT IDEA. AND LIKE YOU  SAID SOME OF THESE THINGS LIKE  AIR QUALITY. I THINK COUNTY  HAS. MONITORING SYSTEM MAY BE  IN PLACE. I. REMEMBER SO THAT  WE CAN MAYBE CAPTURE THAT  BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE HAVE  DEVICE IS OUR SELF AND WORLD  CITY. WE DO NOT. SO THAT THEY  ARE OUT THERE AND WE CAN START  UTILIZE THAT. EQUIPMENT THAT'S  ALREADY IN PLACE. SO I THINK  IT'S A GREAT IDEA. AVERAGE DID  YOU HAVE ANY.  >> QUESTIONS ABOUT COMMENTS  ABOUT THE SCORECARD.  >> YES, I THINK THE.  >> THE CARD IS ACTUALLY A VERY  BENEFICIAL TO IT'S BEEN A LONG  TIME COME IN WITH ABOUT VISOR  E BOARD ON BOARD AND THIS IS  JUST SOME OF THE THINGS THAT  WE CAN LOOK FORWARD GETTING  OTHER RESOURCES INVOLVED  TRACKING OUR OWN RESOURCES  BEING ABLE TO PLAN FOR THE  FUTURE FROM SOME OF THE  RESULTS THAT WE HAVE OR MAYBE  TAKE A DEEP DIVE SOME. THAT  MAY NOT OF BEING A NOTICED SO  I I THINK IT'S VERY VERY GOOD.  AND I ALSO LIKE HOW YOU LOOK  UP TO THE SEAL AND EVERY TIME  YOU LOOK FOR ME YOU KNOW SORT  WHAT'S THAT SO THANK YOU NOT I  THINK IT'S A GREAT TOOL. I  APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT  THEY'RE GOING TO BE GONE AND  NOW THANK VERY MUCH.  >> I JUST WANT TO ADD 2 THINGS  LIKE WILDLIFE HABITAT TALK  ABOUT THIS A LOT BUT THIS  WOULD ACTUALLY.  >> GIVE US SOME CONCRETE PROOF  OF WHAT WE DO HAVE WHERE THOSE  AREAS ARE. PROVIDING WILDLIFE  HABITAT AND THEN WE CAN SAY  WHERE WE NEED TO HAVING AS  WELL I THINK THIS IS THIS IS  REALLY GET FOR EXAMPLE, WE  JUST TALKED ABOUT THE SPRING  WITHIN CORRIDOR OUT THERE  HAVING THAT IN COMMISSIONER  MCDOWELL.  >> YEAH, I DON'T KNOW IF WE  NEED TO GIVE DIRECTIONS SINCE  THIS WAS A RECOMMENDATION FROM  THE BE IF WE NEED TO GIVE CITY  MANAGER DIRECTION TO HAVE  STAFF PROCEED WITH THIS. SO  I'M NOT TOO SURE IF YOU WANT  TO JUST GO THROUGH EACH ONE OF  THE MEMOS AND THEN DO A BUNCH  OF DIFFERENT MOTIONS IT'S TO  YOU I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE  WE GET SOME KIND OF.  >> I COULD GET QUESTION I  THINK WE SHOULD DO A MASS  WHERE IT'S NOTHING YEAH THAT'S  WHY WE REMEMBER THEM BECAUSE  IS A RECOMMENDATION BY BE AND  IT'S IT'S SAYING THAT THEY  WOULD LIKE TO SEE NORTH PORT  CREATED SO OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE  TO GIVE DIRECTION TO SOMEBODY  YOU WANT TO PUBLIC COMMENT,  FRESH.  >> SURE WELL WE'RE GOING TO  THROUGH THESE ONE BY ONE. SO  CAN WE HAVE ANY THE COMMENT.  ON THAT. IF GO TO THEM. BUT  WON. BEYOND EACH ITEM. ALL  THAT. I I WOULD SAY YOU COULD  OR JUST WAIT SO THEY AND WAS  THAT THEY FEEL ABOUT THAT.  >> I THINK WE'RE ASBESTOS HEAR  PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE WE KNOW  WHAT WE ARE GOING MAKE A  MOTION.  ♪ >> WOULD YOU BE  ♪ >> COMFORTABLE COMMENTING ON  ALL 5 PEOPLE WE  >> MAYOR OF CITY CLERK, IT'S  ONE PUBLIC COMMENT PER AGENDA  ITEM AGENDA AS ONE AGENDA ITEM  OKAY. ALL RIGHT SO WE'LL HAVE  TO GO THROUGH ALL ONE TIME,  I'M SORRY, YEAH. COMMENT.  >> I THINK I THINK YOU YOU.  I'VE HERE YOU'D LIKE TO  COMMENT ALL AT SAME THAT.  >> SO WE  >> THAT ONE TO WANT TO  CONTINUE. THANK YOU.  >> THE MIX. THE KNICKS MEMO.  >> RECOMMENDED BY THE  ENVIRONMENTAL ADVISORY BOARD  FOR THINGS TO BEST THE SITE  USE. IN ADDITION TO THE MEMO  CONCERNS I JUST. WANTED TO THE  FEW OF MY FEW MY COMMENTS.  GENERALLY THE PESTICIDE  APPLICATION NORTH 40'S USUALLY  CONDUCTED BY EITHER. PUBLIC  SARASOTA COUNTY MOSQUITO  MANAGEMENT SERVICES, PRIVATE  ENTITIES AND OTHERS. THE  CONCERN REGARDING THAT'S IT  TOXICITY I. IT'S IT IS  JUSTIFIED THEIR THEIR SOURCES  THAT ARE CREDIBLE MENTION  WITHIN THE REPORTER I ALSO  WANTED KNOW THAT IT. SUCH YOU  SERVE A GUEST THE IN MANY  CASES, IT'S IT.  >> IT'S PART OF THESE  DEPARTMENTS OR ENTITIES.  PROCEDURES I'M NOT ABLE TO.  SAYING MUCH REGARDING THEIR I  CAN ONLY SPECIFIED WITH ANY  CHEMICAL, THE LEVEL OF  TOXICITY COMES UP WITH THOSE  CH. WELL FOR APPLICATION  TECHNIQUES.  IT'S A COMPLICATED IT'S A  SUBJECT, BUT THE KEY IS PROPER  APPLICATION, PROPER DOSAGE.  >> AVOIDANCE POSSIBLE MINIMUM  MINIMIZATION IT ALSO BULL.  ALTERNATING TREATMENTS USING A  MULTI-MODAL APPROACH TO  CONTROL SOME OF. WHICHEVER THE  BESTS MAYBE. HOWEVER THESE ARE  THESE ARE SPECIFIC SCENARIOS  AIMS DIVISION CAN ONLY PROVIDE  GUIDANCE. BUT IT'S PERTAINING  TO THE CONCERNS HERE I'M NOT  SURE THAT I CAN SAY A MUCH  COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL,  >> I KNOW THAT THERE SHEETS  FOR EVERY CHEMICAL THAT IS  USED IN OUR CITY AND I WOULD  STRONGLY SUGGEST THAT YOU  PROVIDED THE VAB WITH EACH ONE  OF THOSE MSD AS SHEETS THAT  THIS CITY USES FOR TURF AND  FOR WATER AND FOR PEST  CONTROL. I THINK THAT IT WOULD  BE HELPFUL FOR THEM TO SEE  THAT WE DO TAKE IT SERIOUSLY  TO MINIMIZE THE RISK WHEN IT  COMES TO THE PESTICIDES  SPECIALLY AND WATER. THE OTHER  THING IS IS THEY SUGGESTED  NATURAL KIND OF CHEMICAL. I  DON'T IF THIS SOUNDS LIKE AN  OXYMORON NATURAL CHEMICAL,  TOURNAMENT. AS OPPOSED TO  USING THE CHEMICALS. I WOULD  REALLY BE INTERESTED SEEING  WHAT THE UP COST COMPARISON  MIGHT BE FOR HEY THERE'S A  NATURAL AVAILABLE FOR THIS,  BUT NO WE CAN'T DO A NATURAL  FOR THAT AND SEE WHAT THAT  COST COMPARISON IS BECAUSE IT  MAY BE MINUSCULE IT MAY BE.  EXPANDS AND I EXPENSES I DON'T  KNOW. THE OTHER STAFF TO IT.  MAYBE SOMEBODY FROM STAFF CAN  EXPLAIN TO BE WHY WE USE  CERTAIN IN THE WATERWAY IS WHY  WE USE CERTAIN CHEMICALS FOR  TURF. AND THE BENEFIT OF SOME  OF IT. IT'S EASY TO FOCUS ON  HARM THAT IT CAUSES AN  ABSOLUTELY I'M NOT TRYING TO  DIMINISH IT. BUT. I I THINK  THAT A LOT OF THE CHEMICALS  THAT WE USE ARE NOT AS HARMFUL  AS I AT LEAST I WOULD HOPE.  ARE NOT AS HARMFUL AS WHAT  EVERYBODY JUST THINKS THAT  >> WE ARE ONE OF THE.  >> WORLD'S CAPITAL OF INVASIVE  SPECIES AIMS. A WAY IT'S IT'S  A PERFECT STORM.  >> WHETHER OUR NATURAL  WATERWAYS SOAR.  >> OUR HABIT THAT'S THE  RESTROOM. HABITATS.  >> THERE IS AN ABUNDANCE OF  NUTRIENTS WITHIN THE WATER  CALLING COMBINED WITH. PLENTY  OF HEAT YOU HAVE THE PERFECT  FUEL SOURCE FOR. ALL SORTS OF  GROWTH TO HAPPEN WITH BEING  QUITE WAYS WHICH CAN LEAD TO  MANY OTHER NEGATIVE SAME WITH  INVASIVE SPECIES. UPLINK HAVE  THAT WHEN TWINS. MOSQUITOES WE  ALL KNOW ABOUT NUMBER ONE IT  NATURAL ENEMY. SO. THAT  THERE'S NO EASY THERE'S NO  SOLUTION IT'S CERTAINLY VALID  CONCERN. REGARDING SOME OF  THESE CHEMICAL USES IN THERE.  NOT NECESSARILY A CUTE BUT  PROLONGS EFFECTS. WHICH I I  DON'T UNDERSTAND ENOUGH, BUT.  THE CONSERVATIVES DEFINITELY  THERE.  >> BILLY ASSISTANT CITY COUPLE  YEARS PERHAPS MAYBE A LITTLE  LESS TRUCK SPEAK TO THE  PRESENTATION. WE HAD QUITE  COMPREHENSIVE INFORMATION WITH  RESPECT TO THE CHEMICALS  PUBLIC WORKS CHOOSES. SO THE  COMMISSION ALSO DESIRES WE CAN  GET THAT PROBABLY PRO BACK TO  YOU. WE COULD ALSO ADD TO ON  THIS FUN, HOW ARE SOME OF THE  CHEMICALS FOR ON HER  RECREATION FACILITIES. A LOT  OF THEY'RE BOUND BY CERTAIN  PREP FOR EXAMPLE IN HER  DEPARTMENT BOUND BY CERTAIN  REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY HAVE TO  TREAT AND MAKE SURE THAT HER  PARKS ARE SAFE. FOR EXAMPLE  FROM. FOR CHILDREN TO BE  PLAYING ON THE PARK'S THINGS  LIKE THAT SO WE'D BE MORE THAN  HAPPY TO REGENERATE THE  STATISTICS REPORT AS WELL AS  POSSIBLY AND SOME OF FUND  INFORMATION KIND OF ADDRESS  THESE CONCERNS.  >> ICE MAN. AND I HAVE  ACTUALLY HAVE A FOLLOW-UP TO  THE ATTENTION.  >> THE PRESENTATION MISTER  SPEAKE MADE WAS THAT  PRESENTATION TO OR WAS IT JUST  A WRITTEN REPORT.  >> I BELIEVE IF I'M NOT  MISTAKEN IT WAS TO THE  COMMISSION BECAUSE THIS  SUBJECT CAME UP BEFORE I WAS  WITH REGARD TO THE CHEMICALS.  HE USED. HE HAD VERY EXTENSIVE  REPORT AS I RECALL WE DO MORE  THAN HALF YEAH OF THE IMAGE OR  REMEMBER OKAY VICE MAYOR.  >> YOU KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT  THE SUBJECT LICENSED AND ASKED  TO FOR US ASIDE APPLICATOR  EARLY IN MY CAREER. EPA HAS  BEST PRACTICES AND THAT'S  REFINING THEM OVER THE YEARS.  YOU KNOW IT IS A TERRIBLE 2  EDGE SWORD. USING ANY KIND OF  CHEMICALS IT'S BUT AT THE SAME  TIME BE THE CONSEQUENCES OF  NOT. AS YOU SPEAK TO ISSUES OF  INVASIVE SPECIES AND IN A  VARIETY OF OTHER ISSUES THAT  CAN CREATE EQUALLY IF NOT  WORSE SCENARIOS FOR US  ENVIRONMENTALLY SO IT IS  SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE  HANDLED PROPERLY. THE EPA  PRETTY DARN GOOD JOB DOING IT  THEY TOO. YOU KNOW WITH WITH  EVERY CHEMICAL PRODUCTS THAT  USE THAT THERE ARE DETAILED  NOTES AND USAGE REQUIREMENTS.  >> THERE ARE KINDS OF  REGULATIONS WITH REGARD TO HOW  CLOSE TO SCHOOLS AND OTHER  AREAS WHERE CHILDREN PLAY IN  AND TRUE FOR US. WHEN  APPLICATIONS CAN BE DONE ON  HOW THEY'RE DONE THE TYPES OF  PRODUCTS THAT CAN BE USED.  SOME PRODUCTS HAVE SHORTER  LIFE SPANS BUT YOU KNOW ALL IN  ALL IT'S AN EXTREMELY  COMPLICATED PROCESS THAT  REALLY JUST A SIMPLE BAN IT OR  NOT AND IT DOESN'T REALLY  WORK. PUBLIC WORKS AND PARKS  AND RECS REALLY NEED TO FOLLOW  GOVERNMENTAL GUIDELINES AND WE  NEED TO JUST MAKE SURE. YOU  KNOW MAYBE WHO ARE ARE OUR OUR  DIP, OUR NATURAL RESOURCE  DEPARTMENT THAT WERE ADHERING  TO THE AND THAT WE'RE DOING  OUR VERY BEST TO MINIMIZE THE  ON THE ENVIRONMENT AND AND ON  AN YOUR WHILE BUT IT'S NOT  SOMETHING YOU CAN WINDOWS 8  REALLY CAN'T EVERYTHING I KNOW  YOU JUST SOME OF THESE  PRODUCTS JUST NEED TO BE USED.  AND ALL THE TIME THEY'RE  COMING UP WITH MORE AND MORE  ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY. A  LOT OF TREE AND SHRUB.  INFESTATIONS AND DISEASES CAN  BE TREATED BIOLOGICALLY. BUT  THERE VERY EXPENSIVE TO A SLOW  PROCESS. EAST WIND CHECKED  INTO THE BASIS OF TREES  PRODUCT THAT THAT YOU KNOW  RATHER AND SPRAY THE NOSE AND  OUR CHEMICALS AND AND YOU  KNOW. THEY ARE AFFECTED. BUT  THEY'RE HECK OF A LOT MORE  ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY. SO.  SO IT'S A PRETTY COMPLICATED  PROCESS. SO. WHAT THAT'S  WORTH. ALL RIGHT COMMISSIONER  LANGDON.  >> THANK YOU MAYOR, I I DO  THINK IT WOULD BE WORTHWHILE.  FOR OUR NATURAL RESOURCES  DIVISION IN CONJUNCTION WITH  OUR ADVISORY GROUP. TO TAKE A  LOOK AT OUR CURRENT CHEMICALS  AND MAKING SURE JUDGMENTS HAVE  THE RIGHT BALANCE WITH  MEDICINE US. AND THAT DOING  THE BEST WE CAN IN THAT AREA  SO I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF  FOR THEIR WORK IN THAT AREA.  >> FOR ALL I NOTICED ON THIS  MEMORANDUM IT DOES SAY  PESTICIDES AND HOW ARE  TOGETHER BUT THEN THERE'S THE  WHOLE THING IT HAPPENS ARE  JUST ABOUT AS SIDE.  >> SO WHAT DO YOU KNOW WHAT WE  ARE TREATING WHAT PESTICIDES  ARE RICH BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID  WE DON'T DO MOSQUITO. SPRAYING  WE DON'T ENGAGE IN THAT AND WE  DON'T GO OUT CONFIRM KIDDOS  BUT AS. VICE MAYOR TALKED  ABOUT HIS EXPERIENCE AND I'VE  SAID THIS BEFORE I WORKED FOR  MOSQUITO CONTROL MOVE DOWN  HERE THOUGH. I KNOW THAT FOR  EXAMPLE THE FOGGING BUT THAT  IT'S SUCH A FINE SPRAY THAT IT  DISSIPATES BEFORE HITS THE  GROUND AND CHOOSE TO DRIVE THE  DO THAT ANYMORE SO THAT IS  ACTUALLY A GOOD THING FOR  PEOPLE TO NOW. THAT DEEP THAT  YOU KNOW THE FOG CAME OUT THE  BACK. DON'T DO THAT. BUT THAT  WAS THE SAME THING THAT THAT  IT BEFORE EVEN HIT THE GROUND  AND HAD DISAPPEARED BECAUSE  THE IDEA WAS IT HAD A HIT AND  MISS YOU DO. KELLY. IT WAS  WASN'T RESIDUAL. SO. I DON'T I  KNOW WE DON'T ENGAGE IN THAT  AND I KNOW THAT CONTROL YOU  GET OUT OF SARASOTA COUNTY  AGAIN THEY THEY LIKE, BUT IT  WAS SAYING THEY THEY HAVE TO  HAVE THOSE LEVELS OF SAFETY  BUT THERE IS A. THE DOUBLE  EDGED SWORD. IT'S GOING.  COURSE EFFECT SOMETHING AND  WE'RE HOPING THAT WE KNOW IT'S  JUST AN ESCAPE DO SO. SKILL  NOW. IN FACT THE COUNTY HAS  BEEN A REALLY GREAT JOB  HARVESTING THOSE FISH. NOT  REALLY SURE WHAT WE CAN DO  ABOUT THAT BUT HAVING KNOWING  WHAT WE DO USE WITH WHAT THAT  IDEA.  >> IF  >> I IF I MAY MENTION  REGARDING MOSQUITO OUR  CITIZENS ARE ABLE TO BENEFIT  FROM THAT PROGRAM AND THE WAS  KEY TO FISH FOR FREE THROUGH  SARASOTA COUNTY RIGHT.  >> AND MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING  THAT WE COULD MAKE AVAILABLE  AND THAT INFORMATION LIKE  >> WE'RE ACTUALLY WORKING WITH  THE COMMUNICATIONS TEAM MAKE  THAT INFORMATION MORE  >> I THINK THIS IS ALL RIGHT  COMMISSIONER LANGDON YOU'RE  OK, I'M OK, I'M OK. ANYTHING  ELSE ON ON THAT. COMMISSIONER  ELRICH.  >> YES.  >> BACK.  >> IN THE DEBT WAS WORKING FOR  THE CITY. WE USED TO GO TO THE  COUNTY I WE JUST HAVE MEETINGS  UP THERE WAS CALLED I PM  INTEGRATED PEST MANAGEMENT AND  WHAT WE DID AS IN THE MEETING  AND WITHIN THE GROUP WAS  LOOKING FOR THE LEAST TOXIC.  SOLUTION TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE  TAKE CARE OF TESTS OUT THERE  BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT SOME STUFF  THAT YOU KNOW CAUSE CANCER AND  YOU GET STUFF THAT'S YOU KNOW  IT WILL JUST MELT AWAY AND  WATER. SOME THINGS ARE FUNNY  WITHIN THE CITY WE WE USUALLY  CHART AND WE LIKE WILLIAM ST.  S COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL TALKED  ABOUT WE WE ALSO KEEP RECORDS  OF THE SPRAYING AND HOW MUCH  FLUID WHAT THOSE WHERE IN THE  CAN NOW SAYS THAT OTHER ONE  THING WE LEARNED ABOUT UP  THERE WAS THAT YOU COULD  ACTUALLY KILL FIRE WITH  BOILING WATER YOU DIDN'T HAVE  TO USE ANYTHING BUT BOILING  WATER. THE OUTSET ON THAT WAS  IT KILLED THE GRASS. JUST  IMAGINE GOING AROUND WITH  5,000 HOMES IN YOUR YARD  BECAUSE YOU KILLED SO YOU HAD  TO COME UP WITH A COMMON  MEANS. BUT WITHOUT KEEPING  RECORDS AND I I KNOW YOU  BROUGHT UP MOSQUITO CONTROL.  WE HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE,  WHAT THEY'RE SPRAYING ON US OR  WHEN OR HOW MUCH I WOULD I  WOULD LIKE TO SEE A MONTHLY  REPORT ON WHAT CHEMICALS  PASSING DOWN ON US. THEY THROW  PLANES OVER THAT'S THE MOST  TOXIC. CONCOCTION RIGHT THERE  YOU BREATHE IT YOUR KIDS  BREATHE, FEW DOGS CAPS ANYBODY  CAN GET INTO THAT WHAT HARM IS  THAT YOU KNOW WHEN YOU DO THAT  THE FIELDS SPRING FROM THE  TRUCK THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE  LEAST TOXIC. WHY ARE WE  GETTING THE MOST TOXIC. COULD  BE GETTING THE LEAST TOXIC.  I'D LIKE TO HAVE NUMBERS ON  THAT AND SEE WHERE THAT COMES  FROM BE GOOD TO KNOW. SO YES,  I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU.  >> THE COMMENTS BUT COMMENTS.  OKAY WE CAN MOVE ON.  >> I HEARD YOU TELL. I IT.  THANK YOU.  >> NEXT MEMO THINGS TO LAND  ACQUISITION AND THIS IS KEY  PRIORITY FOR OUR NEW NATURAL  RESOURCES DIVISION. IT'S  SOMETHING WE. ARE STARTING TO  WORK AMES IS A TOP PRIORITY IN  THE GOAL FOR US. AND THIS MY  COMMENTS PERTAINING TO THIS  MEMO.  >> COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL. YEAH  I APPRECIATE THAT THIS IS ONE  OF YOUR TOP PRIORITIES. I  THINK THIS HAS BEEN THE  COMMISSION'S TOP PRIORITY FOR  A WHILE WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO  FIGURE OUT HOW TO CONSERVE AND  PRESERVE OUR LAND.  >> FOR THE WILDLIFE AND THE  TREES. I I.  >> STILL DON'T QUITE  UNDERSTAND WHY THE BE DOESN'T  REALIZE THAT OUR TREE FUND  MONEY CAN BE USED FOR LAND  ACQUISITIONS BUT.  >> I'LL LEAVE THAT ONE ALONE.  >> I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE  SURE THE COMMISSION IS PART OF  HOW WE ARE PURCHASING HOW WE  PURCHASE LAND. WE DESIGNATE  THE EXISTING LAND THE CITY  ALREADY OWNS FOR CONSERVATION  AND PRESERVATION. I KNOW THAT  THERE'S A WHOLE LIST LAND THE  CITY CURRENTLY OWNS THAT WERE  SUPPOSED TO BE REVIEWING EVERY  YEAR. I CANNOT EVEN BEGIN TO  TELL YOU ONE LAST TIME WAS WE  REVIEW THAT LIST. AND THAT  LONG PAST DUE. IT'S SUPPOSED  TO BE DONE EVERY YEAR. BECAUSE  THERE COULD BE SOME LAND THAT  WE WE CAN POSSIBLY TRADE FOR  MAYBE THERE'S CHAMPION TREE ON  SOMEBODY'S PROPERTY. THEY WANT  TO BUILD ON AND WE COULD  POSSIBLY TRADE LANDER PURCHASE  LAND USING THOSE FUNDS. I KNOW  THAT THERE'S TALK OF USING.  TREE FUND MONEY TO PURCHASE  PROPERTY THAT CAN ALSO BE USED  NOT JUST FOR CONSERVATION AND  PRESERVATION. BUT ALSO TO HAVE  ACCESS FOR STORM WATER. THAT  STORM ARE FOR CANAL  MAINTENANCE. IT WHATEVER WE DO  WE HAVE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT  THAT LAND IS CONSERVED INTO  PERPETUITY I DON'T KNOW WHAT  THAT PROCESS LOOKS LIKE I FOR  ONE WOULD LOVE TO UNDERSTAND  HOW THAT PROCESS LOOKS WHAT WE  NEED TO DO TO GET OUR CURRENT  CITY OWNED PROPERTY. IF THERE  IS ANY THAT WE IDENTIFY THAT  CAN BE PRESERVED INTO INTO  PERPETUITY THE FIRST ONE THAT  COMES TO MIND AND I'VE SAID  THIS REPEATEDLY IS MYAKKA  HATCHED CREEK CORRIDOR. THAT  IS JUST SITTING LAND. TO BY  THE CITY. BUT IT'S NOT TOO  PERPETUITY AND IT'S NOT  CONSERVATION, IT'S JUST WENT.  AND IF WE'RE GOING TO SEND A  MESSAGE THAT WE WANT TO  CONSERVE LAND I THINK THAT  WOULD BE IT PERFECT PLACE TO  SO THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. SO  LOOK FORWARD TO FUTURE  CONVERSATIONS ON THAT AND IF  ANYTHING I HOPE WE CAN GIVES  THE.  >> EA BE A MEMO SAYING THAT WE  ARE WORKING ON THIS. SO THAT  THEY DON'T FEEL LIKE WE'RE  NEGLECTING THEM. THANK YOU MY.  >> MAYOR AND WERE BARNES  ASSISTANT DIRECTOR DEVELOPMENT  SERVICES.  >> I'LL SPEAK TO THE LAST  POINT ALL OF A CITY OWNED LAND  ALONG THE MYAKKA HACHI CREEK.  >> WE'LL  >> A MANDATE TO HAVE A  CONSERVATION FUTURE LAND USE  DESIGNATION AND ENVIRONMENTAL  CONSERVATION ZONING DISTRICT.  WITH THE ULDC REWRITE THE  ASSOCIATED COMP PLAN  AMENDMENTS. SECONDLY WE ARE  WORKING ON THE CITY-OWNED  PROPERTIES LIST. FOR A NUMBER  OF REASONS. THERE HER OVER A  1000 PROPERTIES ON THE LIST  AND WE ARE CAREFULLY CHECKING  THOSE PROPERTIES TO ENSURE  THAT ALL THE DOWNLOADED FROM  THE PROPERTY APPRAISER IS  ACCURATE. I I DON'T IS  CORRECT. TO DETERMINE ANY OF  THOSE PROPERTIES ARE SUITABLE  FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. IF  THOSE PROPERTIES ARE NECESSARY  TO BE RETAINED FOR EXPANSION  OF PARKS EXPANSION OF PUBLIC  WORKS FACILITIES, ET CETERA.  ONCE WE HAVE THAT LIST  NARROWED DOWN. WE WILL  DEFINITELY BE PULLING AND  STUFF ON AND HIS TEAM TAKE A  LOOK AT THOSE PROPERTIES AND  DETERMINE IF THERE ARE.  HERITAGE TREES IF THERE ARE  WILDLIFE HABITATS THAT THERE  ARE PROPERTIES ON THAT LIST  THAT ARE NOT IDENTIFIED US.  >> NEEDED FOR FUTURE USE.  >> AND THEN WE'LL WE'LL WORK  PUTTING TOGETHER PLANS TO  PURSUE SOME KIND OF  CONSERVATION. ON THOSE  PROPERTIES WHETHER IT BE BY  PURCHASE WHETHER CONSERVATION  EASEMENT WITH TDR SITS AT  AROUND.  >> AND FOLLOW.  >> LAND DESIGNATION FOR MYAKKA  HACHI CREEK THAT YOU'RE SAYING  IS GOING TO BE CONSERVATION IS  THAT. CONSERVATION INTO  PERPETUITY OR JUST THEY WERE  DESIGNATING IT AS CONSERVATION  SO COULD COME BACK AT SOME  POINT.  >> IT IS GOING TO BE  DESIGNATED AS CONSERVATION  FUTURE LAND USE AND UP AND IT  ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION  SOUNDING. NOW THAT WOULD.  DESIGNATED CONSERVATION THE  CITY WOULD HAVE TO APPROVE A  COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT.  HE CHANGED THE DESIGNATION OF  A PROPERTY. IT'S NOT PLACE A  CONSERVATION EASEMENT OVER THE  PROPERTY AND PERPETUITY THAT  IS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE  HOWEVER WITH THE CITY BEING  THE OWNER OF THOSE PROPERTIES.  YOU KNOW THE POLICY OF THE  CITY COULD BE TOO. A WEIGHT  EVER CHANGING THE FUTURE LAND  USE DESIGNATION OF AS  PROPERTIES BUT COULD GO THE  OTHER WAY I THINK YOU KNOW I.  >> I THINK THAT IT COULD BE  CONSIDERED, BUT I THINK THAT  AS PROPERTIES RELATIVELY SAFE.  >> AS IT WERE THEY ARE IN A  FLOOD THEY ARE OWNED BY THE  CITY AND OF COURSE IF THE  COMMISSION DIRECTS US TO  PREPARE A CONSERVATION  EASEMENT FOR EVERY PROPERTY.  THE CITY OWNS ALONG THE CREEK.  >> WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT. I  DON'T I DON'T I DON'T  RECOMMEND THAT WE DO SO  SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF WORK  INVOLVED IN I AND IDENTIFYING  ALL OF PROPERTIES ARE NOT THE  LEGAL DESCRIPTIONS FOR THIS  PROPERTY IS INCORPORATING ALL  TO A CONSERVATION EASEMENT AND  WOODBINE CITY TO COMPLY WITH  ITS FUTURE LAND USE  DESIGNATION.  >> ONE LAST QUESTION IS. WHEN  WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CITY-OWNED  PROPERTY. I REALLY WOULD LIKE  TO EXPAND IT REALLY START  WORKING WITH THE COUNTY.  BECAUSE THEY HAVE AN  ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE LAND  BANK. WE THE CITY CONTRIBUTE  TO THAT. A LOT A LOT OF MONEY  BECAUSE OF THE PROPERTIES  BOUGHT AND SOLD AND TRADED  KNOW THAT KIND OF STUFF. WE WE  NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT SOME OF  OUR AREAS ARE PUT ON  ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE  LAND. BANK. THROUGH THE  COUNTY. I KNOW THE COUNTY JUST  APPROVED WON OVER BY BUT THAT  STAYED BELOW THE AVENUE  SOMEWHERE AROUND YEAH. KNOW  THERE'S ONE OVER BY ITALY AT  YOU YES, THE REAL AND THE  STATE IS NOT MCCOWN RIGHT IS  NOT IT'S SO THE LAST ONE THAT  I HEARD WAS OVER BY ITALY HAVE  BUT THERE ARE FAR MORE AND I  THINK SPRING HAVEN WOULD BE  EXCELLENT CANDIDATE FOR THAT  KIND OF A PROGRAM. BUT WE  WOULD HAVE TO RE-ENGAGE AND  FOLLOW THROUGH TO MAKE SURE  THAT THEY'RE DONE. JUST  THROWING THAT OUT THANK YOU.  >> IF I MAY COMMISSIONER WE  ARE ALREADY ENGAGING WITH THEM  PURPOSEFUL MEETING WITH. A  COUNTY REPRESENTATIVE OF THIS  PROGRAM AND WE ARE WORKING ON  SCHEDULING. ANOTHER MEETING  HOUR. DEVELOPMENT SERVICES  DIRECTOR DEPUTY CITY MANAGER  TEAM WHO EXACTLY DO THAT  DISCUSS SOME OF THESE AREAS  THAT WOULD BE GREAT  CANDIDATES.  >> THANK YOU. OKAY  COMMISSIONER LANGDON.  >> THANK YOU  >> I'M NOT A FAN OF THE CITY  BEING IN THE BUYING LAND FOR  CONSERVATION PURPOSES, JUST  NOT. AND LET'S LOOK AT THE  PROPERTIES ALONG MYAKKA HACHI  CREATE THAT WITH BEEN  PURCHASING BECAUSE THAT AREA  FLOODED SO BADLY. WE HAVE  DEVELOPERS BUILDING WHERE THEY  SHOULDN'T AND WE CAN STOP  THEM. WE HAVE PEOPLE BUYING  LAND AND HOUSES WITHOUT DOING  THEIR DUE DILIGENCE IN TERMS  OF FLOOD ZONES AND MAPS. I  JUST DON'T THINK THAT'S THE  CITY'S PROBLEM TO FIX. IN  GENERAL LAT. CONSERVATION  GROUPS DO THE BUYING. I I. I  JUST KEEP THINKING THAT THE  CITY ALREADY HAS. EXTENSIVE  ENVIRONMENTAL OPEN SPACE AND  PARKLAND AND AND I'VE BEEN  MAKING A MISTAKE. I'VE BEEN  QUOTING 29% IT'S ACTUALLY 34%  OF OUR CURRENT LAND  CONSERVATION OPEN SPACE AND  PARKS. PERCENT OF OUR LAND  USES COMMERCIAL. IT'S THIS  CITY SHOULD BE BUYING LAND  WHICH SHOULD BE BUYING LAND  FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT  PURPOSES, NOT FOR  CONSERVATION. AND IN TERMS OF  RESTRICTING I THINK YOU KNOW  THERE IS SOME AREAS THAT THAT  I WOULD SAW SOME A LITTLE BIT  BUT JUST IN GENERAL I JUST  DON'T THINK THAT'S THE CITY'S  PROBLEM TO TRY TO RESOLVE. IF  WE'RE GOING TO BE USING CITY  MONEY FOR ANY PURPOSE I WANT  TO SEE A STARTING TO BUY LAND  EAST OF TOLEDO BLADE FOR  PARKS. WE HAVE ONE I WOULD IN  THAT AREA AND WE'RE GOING TO  NEED MORE PARKS. THAT'S SORT  OF WHERE I FALL ON THIS  PARTICULAR ISSUE. I ALL RIGHT  THANK YOU. I'M.  >> I WAS BROUGHT UP THAT  REFUND CAN BE USED TO BUY.  LAND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS  BEFORE WE ARE GOING THROUGH  THE THE TREE ORDINANCE COME  GETTING THE MITIGATION FEES  THAT COULD BE USED FOR. BUYING  LAND AND I SAID I WOULD HAVE  NO PROBLEM IF IT SERVED A DUAL  PURPOSE IN OTHER WORDS, PUBLIC  WORKS NEEDS TO. ACQUIRE THOSE  LOTS THAT ARE RIGHT BY OUR  WATER CONTROL STRUCTURES THAT  THEY CAN'T GET TO BUT I SAID I  HAVE NO PROBLEM USING THAT  MONEY TO BUY THAT PROPERTY  PROVIDING YOU LEAVE IT ALONE  AND JUST YOU KNOW HAVE. BE  ABLE TO GET TO WHERE WE NEED  TO GET TO. AND THE ADVANTAGE  OF THAT IS A BIG PART. AND  CONSERVATION IS THAT HAS TO BE  MAINTAINED. THAT COSTS MONEY.  FOR EXAMPLE WAS COUPLE MONTHS  AGO COUNTY. YOU HAD A REPORT.  ABOUT THEIR ENVIRONMENTALLY  SENSITIVE LANDS PROGRAM THAT  THEY REACHED THE HALFWAY POINT  YES WE ALL PAY INTO THAT ON.  AND THEY HAD REACHED A POINT  WHERE HALF THE MONEY THAT WAS  BEING TAKEN AND WAS BEING USED  TO MAINTAIN THE LANDS THEY  ALREADY BOUGHT AND THAT WAS  GOING TO CONTINUE TO RISE. SO  THAT SOME POINT THERE WOULD BE  NO MORE MONEY TO BUY LAND JUST  TOO MAINTAIN IT. AND I KNOW  THAT THEY WERE ALSO SETTING. I  FOR AN INCREASE HATCH AND THAT  MILLAGE RATE THAT WE ALL PAY  IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO KEEP  BUYING LAND AND MAINTAIN IT  BUT THAT'S GOING TO BE A  CONSTANT STRUGGLE. AND AS  COMMISSIONER LANGDON SAID WE  DO HAVE CONSERVATION  CONSERVANCY GROUPS. AND THAT'S  AGAIN SOMETHING THEY HAVE TO  DEAL WITH ALL THE TIME AS  MAINTENANCE AND STILL PAYING  ON THOSE THESE FOR FIRE. AND  ROAD DRAINAGE BECAUSE THOSE  SERVICES STILL HAVE TO BE  PROVIDED FOR THOSE PROPERTIES  SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO THINK  ABOUT. ALSO A SELFISH ABOUT  THAT TREE FUND BECAUSE IT TOOK  A LONG TIME FOR US TO. GET TO  THE POINT WHERE WE'VE WE CAN  HAVE SOME MONEY FINALLY IN THE  TREE FUND AND I STILL WOULD  LIKE TO SEE PLANT TREES WITH  IT BECAUSE THAT WAS ALWAYS THE  ORIGINAL INTENTION OF THAT AND  GOING BACK DECADES.  >> WAS TO PLANT TREES. I KNOW  THERE'S LOT OF USES THAT HAVE  BEEN DISCUSSED WHAT TO DO WITH  THAT MONEY BUT BEING PRIMARY  PURPOSE IS TO IT'S TO PROVIDE  FOR OUR TREE CANOPY AND AS WE  GET LAND DEVELOPED WHICH WE  CAN'T CONTROL AS COMMISSIONER  LANGDON SAID SOMEBODY IS  PROPERTY THEY'RE GOING TO  BUILD A HOUSE. WE HAVE TO BE  COMPENSATING FOR THAT. BY  PLANTING TREES ON PUBLIC  PROPERTIES WHERE WE CAN.  STREETS ARE PERFECT PLACES FOR  THAT WHICH IS WHY THAT STREET  TREE NORTH-SOUTH WAS WAS DONE  IN 2008 BECAUSE STAFF. I  PRESSED THE CITY THAT THEY  WEREN'T USING TREE FUND MY TO  PLANT TREES AND FINALLY.  ANSWERED ALL THEIR CONCERNS  AND QUESTIONS AND GIVE THEM AN  OFFER THEY COULDN'T HAD THOSE  TREATS THE IT.  >> BUT THAT'S THE ONLY STREET  BUT THAT HAS STREET TREES LIKE  THAT BECAUSE SO WE CAN WE CAN  CERTAINLY DO THAT AGAIN. YES  IT'S IT COMES WITH MAINTENANCE  THAN THOSE TREES HAVE TO BE  PRONE. I SAW THAT CREW OUT  TODAY ON SUMPTER.  >> PRONING THE OAK TREES ON ON  SUMTER SO WE HAVE TO ALWAYS BE  THINKING OF THAT. AND AS FAR  AS CONSERVATION I LEARNED A  WHILE AGO THAT THAT DOESN'T  NECESSARILY MEAN IN PERPETUITY  CONSERVATION BUT THE FLORIDA  FOREVER FUNDS. IN IS NOT IN  PERPETUITY THOSE ARE PRETTY  MUCH. THE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS  HAVE BEEN BOUGHT AND THEY CAN  ALWAYS LOT I CAME OUT NOT THAT  LONG AGO THAT WAS AND THE  PAPER ABOUT SOMETHING. AREA IN  POLK COUNTY MENTIONED THAT AND  PEOPLE ARE REALLY SURPRISED  THEY THOUGHT THAT WHAT WASN'T  PERPETUITY BUT IT. NOT SO IF  WE'RE GOING TO SOMETHING IN  CONSERVATION EASEMENT I GUESS  WE WOULD HAVE TO SAY IN  PERPETUITY BUT I CAN  UNDERSTAND WHY FLORIDA FOREVER  FUNDS THAT IN THERE BECAUSE  YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO  HAPPEN 50 A 10200 YEARS FROM  NOW THAT WE NEED WE NEED THIS  LAND FOR SOMETHING AND ALL  KNOW YOU CAN'T DO IT BECAUSE  THIS IS THAT SO I UNDERSTAND  THE REASONING FOR THAT AS  WELL. SO.  >> THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY  IT. COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL.  >> JUST I JUST REALLY QUICK  ONE OF PROPERTY THAT WAS  PURCHASED ON THE MYAKKA HACHI  THAT WAS I A LEAVE FROM SHE  DID LOTS. SO THAT MONEY CAME  FROM THE SALE OF PROPERTIES  THAT WE GOT A LARGE CHUNK OF  MONEY FROM THE THAT YOU COULD  LAST. I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE  HAD ANY MORE MONEY COMING IN  FROM THE COUNTY FIRST HE DID  LOTS I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'VE  HAD AMASSED SALE RECENTLY OF  LIVES FROM THE TEXANS. SO WE  REALLY NEED TO LOOK INTO THIS  SHE DID LOT TO SEE IF IF THIS  CITY IS DOING MONEY FROM THOSE  SALES. BECAUSE THOSE ATTACKS  SALES. AND IF THE PROPERTIES  IN PORT MAYOR, THEY'RE  BENEFITING FROM THOSE TAX  SALES SHOULD BE ABLE TO REAP  SOME OF THAT BENEFIT TOO. THE  OTHER THING IS IS. WHEN I  MENTIONED EARLIER TODAY ABOUT  THE CHARLOTTE COUNTY HAVING A  LAW ENFORCEMENT MILLAGE RATE.  I ALSO SAW THAT THERE WAS A  SUSTAINABILITY. MILLAGE RATE  WAS VERY SMALL. IT WAS LIKE A  0, 0, 1, I MEAN IT WAS VERY  SMALL, BUT VERY SMALL ADDS UP  VERY QUICKLY. SO I DON'T I  HAVE BEEN HOPING TO HAVE SOME  KIND OF THE SUSTAINABILITY  FIEN. INCORPORATED SOMEHOW  SOME WAY I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT  LOOKS BUT WE'VE NEVER GOTTEN  TO DISCUSSION THAT. SO I JUST  DON'T WANT THAT TO GET LOST  EITHER BECAUSE THAT COULD BE A  PART OF A WAY OF PURCHASING  LAND OR BEING ABLE TO HAVE  CONSERVATION IN THE SO.  >> THANK YOU AND WANT IF I IF  I COMMISSIONER. SO WE CAN  CERTAINLY LOOK INTO A  CHARLOTTE COUNTY SMALL DO AND  FIND OUT MORE ABOUT I DID DO  SOME RESEARCH FOR TOO. SIMILAR  WITH JURISDICTIONS IT REALLY  WOULD A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF  TIME TOO FIND SOME SOMETHING  THAT WE CAN FIND A MODEL THAT  PERHAPS WE CAN LEARN FROM.  AND IT. THEIR COMMUNITIES OUT  THERE THAT IT'S IMPLEMENT SUCH  SUCH IT AND I THINK THAT THE  OPPORTUNITIES THERE IT YOU'LL  DEFINITELY NEED THE TIME.  >> I NEVER SEE RIGHT HERE.  YEAH HAHA. COMMISSIONER  LANGDON.  >> I JUST HAVE ONE FOLLOW-UP  >> IS THERE ANY RESTRICTION  FOR USING THE FUNDS GENERATED  FROM THE SALE OF THIS CHEATED  LOTS. USING IT FOR PURCHASING  LAND FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT  PURPOSES.  >> I APOLOGIZE I DIDN'T THE  ANSWER ANYONE KNOW.  >> IT WAS A LONG TIME AGO I  THINK THAT WAS THE DECISION  MADE BY THE COMMISSIONER, WHAT  TO MISSION WE WANT WITH THAT  MONEY YES BECAUSE I WAS LIKE A  WINDFALL.  >> AND IT WAS BACK IN WHAT  2002 1009 SOMETHING LIKE THAT  AND WE BELIEVE FOR  >> THAT WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE A  POLICY DECISION FROM THE  COMMISSION IF THERE'S AN  ADOPTED POLICY THAT WE WOULD  HAVE TO DIG THAT OUT AND FIND  NOT SO.  >> I THAT PROBABLY PREDATES  MOST OF THAT BUT THAT IS  CHEATED LOT.  >> YOU KNOW THAT THAT FUND IS  LIKE ALMOST I THINK IT IS IT  IGNITE IS A VERY SMALL THINK  IT'S BEEN A WHILE WE PROBABLY  SO HE'S EXHAUSTED IT. BUT YEAH  MY POINT IS WITH THE STUDENT  LOT MONEY. IT WAS SO LONG I  HAVE TO WONDER WHAT HAPPENED  SINCE. YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S  THAT'S A REVENUE SOURCE THAT  WE WE REALLY NEED TO KIND OF  FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENED  AFTERWARDS. NOW THE CITY IS  LOOKING AT ALL REVENUE SOURCES  WE CAN FIND RIGHT, LET'S SURE  THAT THAT'S ON THAT LIST  BECAUSE CHEATED WATTS WAS A  LONG TIME YOU SHOULD HAVE SEEN  THE SCRAMBLE OF PEOPLE TRYING  TO OKAY. WE HAVE. ANYTHING  ELSE.  >> THERE WAS SOMETHING IN HERE  COMMUNITY GARDENS IN THE LAND  DEVELOPMENT CODE. 2 MORE TOP  ACTS.  >> SO. THE NEXT MEMO PERTAINS  CONSERVATION EASEMENTS AND I  WE DID HAVE THAT DISCUSSION OF  >> SO FROM.  >> IT DOESN'T SEEM THAT  THERE'S A SILVER BULLET SAYING  THE BEST WAY TO APPROACH EACH  OF PROPERTIES.  >> AND  >> FROM FROM OUR.  >> EXPERTISE IT WOULD BE BEST  TO APPROACH EACH EACH OF THESE  ON CASE-BY-CASE BASIS. SO THIS  WOULD BE MY HOME AND FOR IT  4TH THIS DOUBLED. OKAY MONEY.  >> IT'S ONE THAT QUESTION.  >> THAT. THE LAST MEMO FOR  THINGS TO COMMUNITY GARDENS.  >> CARMEL BOWL.  >> BENEFITS OF SUCH GARDENS.  THERE ARE SOME DISADVANTAGES  AS WELL. AMES IN GENERAL, THIS  IS OLD I COULD SAY AS FAR OUR  DIVISION, ITS CONCERNS. I  >> BUT I CAN I CAN ADD A  LITTLE FROM THE PLANNING SIDE  OF ABOUT.  >> WE WE DO HAVE IT AS  >> WE DO ENCOURAGE IT IN THE  REWRITE OF THE ALL THE SAME.  BUT WE WOULD. FROM OUR  EXPERIENCE WE WOULD NOT  RECOMMEND REQUIRING IT OF  DEVELOPERS. THEY CAN BE A  NIGHTMARE FOR MAINTENANCE AND  YOU HAVE TO REALLY HAVE A  WILLING PARTNER IN MAINTAINING  THOSE OR ELSE YOU END UP WITH.  AREAS THAT ARE PRONE TO  ATTRACTING NUISANCE WILDLIFE.  SAID NOT NOT THE WILDLIFE AND  LIKE, BUT THE KIND THAT DON'T  REALLY WANT THAT ARE OFFERING.  SO WE WE HAVE SOME PARTNERS  WEST VILLAGE WELL PARK IS  DEVELOPING A COMMUNITY THEY  HAVE VERY STRICT CONTROLS ON  MAINTENANCE THERE THERE  ASSOCIATION IS IS MAINTAINING  THAT BUT. LACKING. WILLING  PARTNER LIKE THAT IF YOU TRY  TO DO IT FOR MEN AND FOR SIDE  THAT'S WHERE IT CAN REALLY  BECOME MAINTENANCE PROBLEM.  >> AND I CAN THAT WE LIST AND  COMMUNITY GARDENS SETS  PERMISSIBLE USES AND JUST  ABOUT EVERY ZONING DISTRICT  AND THE AND WE'RE ALSO  PROVIDING FOR INCENTIVES ARE  INCORPORATING COMMUNITY  GARDENS AND TO YOUR  DEVELOPMENT.  >> I I JUST LOVE THE CONCEPT  OF A COMMUNITY GARDEN THE ONLY  I WOULD NEVER REQUIRE IT. OF A  DEVELOPER, BUT I THINK  ENCOURAGING AND IT'S A GOOD  THING. THE ONLY ONE I'M AWARE  OF THAT'S THE BY ONE OF THE  WORLD'S SPRINGS OTHER ANY  OTHER ACTIVE COMMUNITY GARDENS  WITHIN THE CITY BOUNDARIES.  >> THE ONE THAT'S COMING IN  WELL IN PART IS THE ONLY OTHER  ONE WHERE UNITY GUARD. SO I  MEAN I THINK IT WOULD BE  AWESOME TO TO SEE IT IN THE  NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT AGAIN I.  >> I UNDERSTAND THE  COMPLICATIONS AND THE  MAINTENANCE REQUIREMENTS SO I  THINK IF IF A NEIGHBORHOOD  WANTED TO HAVE A COMMUNITY  GARDEN IN AN ALREADY EXISTING  PARK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I  WANT TO HONOR THAT BUT I THINK  THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE SOME  REQUIREMENTS.  >> I DO KNOW A COUPLE OF THE  MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPERS THAT  I'VE SPOKEN WITH RECENTLY.  HAVE TALKED ABOUT HAVING THOSE  AS AMENITIES FOR THEIR  RESIDENTS. AND THAT WOULD BE  AN EASIER THING TO CONTROL  FROM A MAINTENANCE STANDPOINT  AS WELL.  >> I MEAN I JUST THINK THE  BENEFITS OF THEM FAR OUTWEIGH  THE THE POTENTIAL ISSUES.  MAYOR IF CAN PFUNDHELLER PARKS  RECREATION DIRECTOR. A  COMMUNITY GARDENS SARASOTA  COUNTY WORKS WITH FOR  COMMUNITY GARDEN PROGRAM FOR 7  LOCATIONS, ONE OF THOSE IS THE  PORT WARM MINERAL SPRINGS  COMMUNITY GARDEN BRIAN. THEY  DO HAVE ON WEBSITE INFORMATION  ABOUT IT. THEY ESTIMATE AT THE  START UP A COMMUNITY GARDEN IS  ABOUT $10,000. SO ANY THINK  ABOUT THAT AND THEN ON ONE  MAINTENANCE IT IT'S IN THE  PARK. I'M PLEASED HEAR THAT  AND HOW THAT WILL WORK BUT  THERE ARE SOME GRANTS THAT  COUNTY OFFER START-UP  COMMUNITY GARDENS.  >> I AGAIN I THINK IT WOULD  REALLY REQUIRE STRONG  COMMITMENT ON THE PART OF THE  FOLKS WHO WANT IT. YEAH SO AND  THAT SAID.  >> THANK YOU, YEAH, I'M I'M I  WAS PLEASED TO SEE THAT WE CAN  HAVE EYES ON SINGLE-FAMILY  LOTS WITHOUT HAVING A HOUSE  THAT ONE TIME THAT WAS NOT  ALLOW. YEAH THAT WAS SOMEBODY  UP THE STREET FROM ME THAT HAD  DEVELOPED LOT SO IT IT JUST TO  PUT FLOWERS AND CITIES THAT  YOU CAN DO THAT AND YOU KNOW  OUTSIDE THERE SO GLAD TO SEE  THAT WOULD THAT WE CAN  ACTUALLY DO THAT.  >> BUT IT DOES TAKE A BIG  COMMITMENT TO START A  COMMUNITY YES UNIVERSITY OF  FLORIDA WORKSOP IN SARASOTA  THEY HAVE A MASTER GARDENERS.  >> THAT, BUT I HAVE A  BEAUTIFUL A COMMUNITY GARDEN  THERE, BUT THAT'S WHAT IT  TAKES YOU NEED TO HAVE PEOPLE  THAT AND COMMIT TO THAT AND BE  THERE ON A REGULAR BASIS  BECAUSE OUT WHAT I'VE LEARNED  IS THAT PEOPLE ARE VERY  EXCITED ME START SOMETHING AND  THEN.  >> YOU'RE ALL BY YOURSELF LIKE  YOU KNOW 5 GALLON BUCKET OF I  YOU KNOW HOW THAT GOES AND  WATER AND ISSUE YOU KNOW  DOESN'T HAVE CITY WATER. YOU  KNOW JOE OUT I BRING THOSE 5  GALLON CONTAINERS OF WATER OFF  WITH YOU AND THAT'S JUST NOT  NOT REALLY PRACTICAL SO.  ANYBODY NOW CAN CAN CREATE A  GARDEN DEVELOP HIS PROPERTY  THAT'S THEIR OWN THAN JUST.  >> OPENING UP TO THEIR  NEIGHBORHOOD BUT OKAY SO.  >> IS THAT LAST I'M SORRY.  VICE MAYOR GO AHEAD.  >> YEAH IT REALLY LEND ITSELF  TO PRIVATE COMMUNITIES. I MEAN  OF PLACES WHERE THERE WERE  COMMUNITY GARDENS IT WORKED  WELL BUT WITHIN. NEIGHBORHOODS  WITH KEN PLANT COMMUNITIES  ISLAND WALK FOR INSTANCE AS  FOR NUMBER OF YEARS NOW AT A  COMMUNITY GARDEN AND SMALL  IT'S WELL MAINTAINED ITS  FENCED AND IT'S TAKEN CARE OF  BY THE HOMEOWNERS BUT  ASSOCIATION WRITES HURT ON  WORK AS WAS MENTIONED IT'S  GOING TO HAVE REALLY NICE ONE.  I IMAGINE IT'S GOING TO BE ON  UP AND RUNNING WITHIN THE SO  THAT KIND OF BE INTERESTING TO  SEE AND AT THE BELTON WHO'S  GOING OVERSEE IT WITH THAT THE  DISTRICT WILL OR NOT RIGHT,  BUT IT DOES REQUIRE WATER AND  THAT'S WE ALL KNOW. THAT'S A  BIG ISSUE EVERYWHERE SO YOU  KNOW THE PROBLEM IS NOT SO  MUCH GETTING IT UP GETTING IT  RUNNING TO GOING, IT'S  MAINTAINING IT OVER THE YEARS  AS PEOPLE COME AND GET OLDER  MOVE AND THEN NEXT THING YOU  KNOW THE BIG THING WE DO  YOU'VE  >> YEAH AND THE OKAY.  >> WITH THAT THE LAST. YES,  YES,  >> OKAY, SO YES, WE'RE READY  OR. PUBLIC COMMENTS. AND TO A  MOTION.  >> ENGLISH FOLLOWED BY  ROBINSON PERCENTILE.  >> EXCELLENT CONVERSATIONAL  ERA. EASIER IF THEY'D BEEN ONE  OF THE TIME OVER US. PERIOD OF  TIME.  WANTS. WELL I'M GOING THERE.  KEEP ONE THING DOES. KIND OF  STUCK OUT TO ME IS YOU KEEP  MENTIONING ABOUT ALL. LAND THE  17,000 ACRES SET. LAND THAT.  IS NOT OR IS THAT LAND THAT IS  SITTING THAT YOU KEEP  REFERENCE AS FAR AS  CONSERVATION LAND. WHAT IF  REFERENCING. CITY OWNED.  CONSERVATION LAND. I'M GOING  TO GO WITH THE PREMISE THAT IS  AN EXAMPLE THE CALL RESERVE,  IT'S CALLED IS THEIR RESERVE  WHICH MEANS IT HAS THE  POTENTIAL TO BE DEVELOPED  NEEDED. ONE 10 IS THAT OF THE  PRESENTATION. AND LAND IT'S  DESIGNATED PRESERVATION STILL  POTENTIAL TO BE DEVELOPED. AND  NONE OF THESE PROPERTIES YOU  DISCUSSING OUR CITY OWNED  WHICH WE HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO  CONTROL OVER.  SO MUCH CONCERN IS HAS BEEN  AND WILL BE. PRESERVATION OF  CITY OWNED LAND THAT WE  CONTROL THAT WE. PLACE UNDER  PRESERVATION AND PREP THE TO  THE TEA. SEE WHAT ELSE WAS  THERE. AND I'M GOING LET YOU  GO WITH THAT BECAUSE HE'S SO  THAT IS A GOOD CONVERSATION.  AND IT WAS THE INFORMATION THE  BOARD WITH GREATLY APPRECIATED  IN A MORE TIMELY MANNER. BUT  NOW. THAT ISSUE HAS BEEN  RECTIFIED BY THE CLERK AND HER  TEAM. AND I DEEPLY APPRECIATE  IT. AND FAR AS I'M CONCERNED  MENTAL  >> I'M ROBIN CENTER CENTER  OKAY BUT HUGHES THE  ENVIRONMENTAL SCHOOL CAUGHT.  ABSOLUTELY WE DEFINITELY NEED  IT.  >> IT'S A GREAT WAY TO NAME  THE LANDS. THE LOCATION OF THE  LANDS. IT'S A PART OF THE  LAND. PURCHASES AND THEN  PURCHASES.  >> AND THEN IT'S AND GO ON AND  ON AND ON SO LOVE THAT. THE  PESTICIDES. THE ONLY COMMENT I  HAVE IS WARM MINERAL SPRINGS  ITSELF BECAUSE WE HAD AN ISSUE  WAY BACK. IS MANAGING IT AND  TRY TO USE A PESTICIDE WITHIN  THAT THAT WAS ECO FRIENDLY.  BUT IT WASN'T IT WAS TOXIC TO  MINERAL SPRINGS. THE ALGAE  THAT IS WITHIN THAT SPRING IS  RARE. IT'S EXTREMELY RARE. IF  YOU RESEARCH THE OUT. IT'S NOT  FOUND REALLY ANY ANYWHERE  EXCEPT IN THE SEAT. WE DON'T  EVEN KNOW HOW IT GETS IN THE  SPRING. WE'VE BEEN TRYING  FIGURE THAT OUT FOR YEARS SO  WE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW EXACTLY  WHAT'S BEING WHAT IS THE  METHODOLOGY THAT IS BEING USED  IN THAT LAKE AND THAT WATER.  THE OTHER CONCERN WE HAVE WITH  THE SPRINGS IS. YOU CAN'T JUST  RATE THE MOVE LITTLE BECAUSE  IT LENDS ITSELF TO THE  ECOSYSTEM. TO THE FISH  EVERYTHING IS IN BALANCE AND  WHEN YOU JUST COME IN YOU RE  GOING BE PUTTING CHEMICALS.  YOUR WINNING THE WHOLE  ECOSYSTEM. YOU KNOW WANT TO  HAVE A MINERAL SPRING THAT'S  HEALTHY. I KNOW YOU KNOW THIS  BUT I'M JUST BRINGING IT TO  ATTENTION WOULD LIKE TO KNOW  WHAT'S IN THE WATER. WHAT'S  BEING USED. THE OTHER CONCERN  IS THE LAND ACQUISITION. I  DON'T LIKE TO HEAR THAT IT'S  NOT THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY  TO DESIGNATE PRESERVE PLANT.  WE DON'T WANT TO HEAR THAT IT  IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY AS A  CITY. DON'T NEED TO NONPROFITS  WE DON'T AS INDIVIDUALS AND  WORK WITH NONPROFITS IN ORDER  TO PRESERVE PLAN THAT WE DOING  SENSITIVE ENOUGH TO DO THAT  TOO AND TO MAKE  RECOMMENDATIONS TO YOU. BUT  IT'S THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY  IN ORDER TO HAVE A HEALTHY  COMMUNITY OVERALL IT HAS TO BE  A BALANCE. IF YOU DON'T HAVE  AND WILDLIFE AND NATURAL  HABITAT THAT'S A COMMUNITY. IF  YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH WORKING  SPACE AND YOU GUYS KNOW MOST  THAT. SO WE HAVE TO AS THE  CITY DESIGNATES CERTAIN LANDS.  THE PRESENTATION AND THEY NEED  TO BE ON THE SCORE CARD AND WE  NEED TO BE TRACKING IT. I  THINK THAT'S IT. YEAH THAT'S  IT FOR NOW. THANK YOU. OKAY  COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL.  >> I WILL ATTEMPT A FEW  MOTIONS BUT I I WANT TO MAKE  SURE THAT.  >> DEA BE.  >> ONE GETS A COPY OF TODAY'S  MEETING LINK. SO THAT THEY CAN  REVIEW IT AT THEIR LEISURE. TO  A MEMO SAYING THANK YOU FOR  TAKING THE TIME TO GIVE US  THESE MEMOS. WE DID THAT IT.  WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT IT. AND  HERE'S SOME OF THE RESULTS AND  HOPEFUL THAT. WHEN WE WE GIVE  THE DIRECTION TO THE CITY  MANAGER CLERK OR WHOEVER GETS  THE PRIVILEGE OF BEING ABLE TO  SEND THIS MEMO TO THEM. THAT  IT'S CAPTURED IN A WAY THAT OF  WITH GRATITUDE AND AND. WHAT  WE WANT. FROM HERE ON OUT IS  ALSO CONVEYED TO THEM THE NEXT  STEPS WERE TAKEN. SO I WILL I  WILL MAKE LIKE A MOTION FOR  EACH EACH MEMO AND THAT'S OK  AND YOU CAN TWEAK IT AS  NEEDED.  >> SO THE FIRST ONE IS TO.  BESIDES SENDING THE OVERALL  ARCHING MEMO SAYING THANK YOU  AND GIVING THEM THE LINK.  REGARDING A MOTION IS TO  REGARDING THE ENVIRONMENTAL  SCORE CARD TO HAVE I'M GIVING  IT TO CITY MANAGER JUST  BECAUSE I LIKE YOU SAYING  THAT WE ARE GOING TO TRACK  THESE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WAS  OUTLINED IN THE MEMO. AND  ADVISE THEM WHERE WE ARE IN  THE TREE CANOPY STUDY. THAT'S  IT ON THE MOTION FOR  ENVIRONMENTAL  >> OK SO WE HAVE A MOTION ON  THE FLOOR BY COMMISSIONER  MCDOWELL ZIEGLER CAN TO  CAPTURE THAT THE DIRECT THE  CITY MANAGER TO SEND A  MEMORANDUM TO THE  ENVIRONMENTAL ADVISORY BOARD  ON THAT ENVIRONMENTAL SCORE  CARD NOTING TRACKING OF THE  SUGGESTED RECOMMENDATIONS  OUTLINED IN THE MEMO AND  ADVISE THEM ON THE STATUS OF  THE TREE CANOPY STUDY.  >> THANK YOU. I THAT'S THE  MOTION. IF A COMMISSIONER  MCDOWELL. A SECOND BOUT, OKAY,  AND THAT THE SECOND BY  COMMISSIONER LANGDON. IT'S  THERE'S NOTHING ELSE. LET'S DO  A VOICE.  >> VICE A A.  >> YOU'RE RIGHT IS A YES.  COMMISSIONER LIKE YES, DO YES.  COMMISSIONER AVERAGE.  >> COMMISSIONER EMRICH YES.  >> OK SO 0, ON THIS WORK HARD.  >> SO THEY GUARDING THE  PESTICIDES WITH THE MOTION FOR  A PESTICIDE.  >> I DON'T KNOW HOW  ENCOMPASSES IT WOULD BE TO  PULL ALL SDA SHEETS.  >> AT THE CITY USES FOR  PESTICIDES ARE FOR PESTICIDES  TURF WATER ALL THAT KIND OF  STUFF I DON'T KNOW HOW  EXHAUSTIVE THAT WOULD BE.  MAYBE WE COULD INSTEAD OF ALL  OF THEM THE MOST COMMONLY USED  ONES. I'M NOT TOO SURE HOW TO  PROCEED WITH THAT ONE. EXCEPT  THAT MAYBE WE JUST HAVE STAFF  GIVE A PRESENTATION TO THE  COMMISSION AND INVITE THE A B.  THAT TO JULIE HAD TALKED ABOUT  THAT CHUCK GAVE TO US.  SOMETIME IN THE PAST. YES, IF  I MAY.  >> THE CITY SHOULD HAVE ALL OF  THE MS. DIAZ'S AND A CATALOG  ON ANYTHING THAT THEY SPRAY  EITHER IN THE AIR OR ON THE  GROUND SO THEY THEY ARE  REQUIRED TO HAVE THEM. SHOULD  YEAH IT SHOULD BE NOTHING TO  HAVE THEM. SO WE SHOULD ADD  >> ALL RIGHT SO I WILL I WILL  TRY THIS MOTION  >> TO HAVE THE CITY MANAGER  PROVIDE TO THE EA BE BORED. A  COPY OF ALL THE MSD SHEETS  REGARDING PAST SPRAYED ON LAND  WATER. AND AIR. LAND WATER AND  PASTS THAT'S AND ALSO. TO  HAVE. STAFF. MISTER SPEAKE  REDO HIS PRESENTATION TO  COMMISSION AND IN THE NEAR  FUTURE. SO.  >> SO I HAVE A MOTION ON THE  FLOOR BY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL  CITY CLERK.  >> TO DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER  TO PROVIDE THE ENVIRONMENTAL  ADVISORY BOARD A COPY OF THE  MS. DIAZ SHEETS REGARDING  PESTICIDES USED ON LAND WATER  AND PAST AND TO HAVE STAFF  REDO THE PRESENTATION TO  COMMISSION IN THE NEAR FUTURE.  >> THAT'S THANK YOU ALL RIGHT  SO THAT'S THE MOTION.  >> I HAVE A WELL SECOND MAYOR  SECOND FOR DISCUSSION. ADVICE  MARY SECOND IT. SECOND CAT,  OKAY, WHAT DID YOU WANT TO  SAY.  >> I JUST WANT TO ASK THE  QUESTION IS IS THAT GOING TO  INCLUDE HERBICIDES. ARE YOU  GOING TO DO A SEPARATE ONE FOR  HERBICIDES HERBICIDES CAN BE  TOXIC ASIDE DOES SIDES 2 DOZEN  ANIMALS.  >> AND WHAT I'M SORRY I'M NOT  I'M NOT INTO THAT KIND OF  STUFF BUT IF I THOUGHT LAND  WATER AND PESTS WHAT KIND OF  COVER EVERYTHING.  >> IN AND IF I MAY  COMMISSIONER SO AIDES  HERBICIDE IS A CATEGORY OF A  SIGHT SO. THE WORKPLACE. THE  SITE INCLUDES WOULD INCLUDE  CURBSIDE THANK YOU, THANK YOU.  >> WANT TO MAKE SURE THANK  YOU.  >> OK SO WE DO HAVE A MOTION  THAT WAS MADE COMMISSIONER  MCDOWELL AND VICE MAYOR STOKE  SECOND IT THAT SO IF THERE'S  NOTHING ELSE WE WILL DO A  VOICE. VICE MAYOR. THEY WANT  IS, YES COMMISSIONER LANGDON  I'M A YES. MCDOWELL YES, AND  COMMISSIONER EMRICH.  >> COMMISSIONER MC YES, OKAY  THAT'S 5 TO 0.  >> I'M NOT SURE IF WE CAN GIVE  ANY FURTHER DIRECTION ON LAND  ACQUISITION BECAUSE IT SOUNDS  LIKE STAFF HAS ALREADY GOT IT  WELL UNDER CONTROL. SO MAYBE  THE DIRECTION WOULD BE TO  PROVIDE A UPDATE MEMO TO THE  EA BE REGARDING THE LAND  ACQUISITION COPY. THE  COMMISSION. SO I UNLESS YOU  GUYS THINK OF ANYTHING THAT WE  COULD REALLY TASK STAFF WINDS.  SPECIFICALLY. SO THE MOTION  WOULD BE TO HAVE.  >> THE CITY MANAGER WORK WITH  THE NATURAL RESOURCES  DIVISION.  >> AND PROVIDE A MEMO AND THE  ACTIONS AND PLANNED. OR LAND  ACQUISITION. THAT THEY ARE  ALREADY WORKING ON.  >> ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION  MADE BY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL  REGARDING LAND ACQUISITIONS  >> FEEDBACK ON THAT.  >> DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER TO  REQUEST STAFF PROVIDE AN  UPDATE A MEMORANDUM TO THE  ENVIRONMENTAL ADVISORY BOARD  COPYING COMMISSION ON THE  ACTIONS OF THE PLAN FOR LAND  ACQUISITION THAT THEY'RE  ALREADY WORKING ON.  ♪ THEY GET A SECOND.  >> OKAY, THANK YOU. THAT  MOTION FAILS FOR LACK OF A  SECOND.  >> I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FOR  COMMUNITY GARDENS TO GET  ACTION ON YEAH.  >> LAST ACTUALLY. I THINK THAT  GO WITH IT. YES WE'LL BE THEIR  LIST THERE. I THINK WE'RE  WE'RE THAT ALL RIGHT. THANK  YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU SO  ♪ >> I LIKE  ♪ >> THE SUIT. YOU DON'T GET TO  WHERE THAT NOT TOO THANK YOU  FOR THAT TODAY. OKAY WE'RE  MOVING ON TO ANY PUBLIC I  COULDN'T BELIEVE MY WRITING  HAS TO GET ONE IT'S REGARDING  THE SCRUB JAY.  >> I'M STEPHEN.  >> GETTING THIS WET DAYS I  LAST ORGANIZED A SURVEY WITHIN  THE CITY. AS YOU KNOW WE WERE  WORKING WITH THE FISH AND  WILDLIFE ON THE POPULATION OF  THE SCRUB AND WE RECOGNIZE  THAT LET YOU KNOW WHERE  THEY'RE AT.  >> I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET A  SCRUB JAY LANDING PROGRAM. SO  ACTUALLY CAN KEEP TRACK OF THE  SKETCHES THAT WE HAVE.  >> THE CALCULATION WAS TO HELP  THE FAMILIES. THEY DID MORE  WITH MY PARTICULAR AREA WHICH  IS THE ARM OR LETTUCE AREA.  BUT NOBODY SEEMS TO WANT TO DO  THIS SPENDING PROGRAM, FISH  AND WILDLIFE SAYS WE DON'T  HAVE THE PEOPLE ALL THE BOUNCE  AS WE CAN. I WOULD LOVE IF THE  NATURAL RESOURCES DIVISION,  MAYBE TRY AND WORK WITH SOME  OF THESE. AND THE GOVERNMENT  TO TRY AND GET THAT PROGRAM SO  WE ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT WE GOT  WITHIN A CITY. WE DON'T ON  THIS THANK THANK YOU. ALL  RIGHT.  >> MOVING ON TO A  COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSIONER  LANGDON.  >> THANK YOU MAYOR IT HAS BEEN  A LONG DAY WITH REALLY HAVE A.  >> FOR STATIONS OKAY WITH  MAYOR I'M GOING CHANGE MY  REACH THE NEXT THE PORTNEUF  THANKFUL.  >> A ALRIGHT COMMISSIONER  MCDOWELL YEAH, I'M GOING TO  ECHO COMMISSIONER LANGDON DOES  COME A THOUGHT BUT I I WANT TO  MAKE SURE THAT I.  >> THE CITIZENS THAT SAT  THROUGH THIS IT'S NICE TO SEE  MORE THAN ONE OR 2 OF YOU OUT  IN THE AUDIENCE AND YES, IT  WAS A LONG MEETING STARTED AT  6 O'CLOCK 1 O'CLOCK HERE SINCE  6 BUT THERE'S BEEN A CITIZEN  THAT'S BEEN HERE SINCE ONE. SO  I JUST WANTED TO RECOGNIZE  THAT AND SAY THANK YOU VERY  MUCH AND THANK YOU TO STAFF  ITS BEEN A LONG DAY IT'S A LOT  OF REALLY HAVING  CONVERSATIONS. BUT THANK YOU  TO EVERYBODY AND AND THOSE  CITIZENS THAT ARE WATCHING  FROM HOME. SO THANK YOU  MISSION SO WELL TO.  >> ALL RIGHT COMMISSIONER  EMERICH.  >> YEAH, I DON'T HAVE MUCH I  JUST WANTED TO RECOGNIZE THAT  CHUCK, HE LOOKED VERY WELL  TODAY AND HIS SHIRT HIM SELF  GREATLY. YOU KNOW IT IT YEAH  THAT'S ALL I RICE MAYOR.  >> OH YEAH, I ALSO WILL PASS  TO MAKES TIME BUT I DO WANT TO  THANK ROBIN CHALK. ALWAYS DO  WITH REGARD TO ENVIRONMENT  THEY KEEP GETTING FRONT OF OUR  FACES FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT.  AND. IT DOES NOT GO UNNOTICED  AND IT DOES NOT GO  UNAPPRECIATED SO THANK YOU  MUCH.  >> OKAY AND I JUST WANTED TO  RECOGNIZE AGAIN THAT WE ARE  TREE CITY AND USA CITY 24  YEARS AND I REALLY HAPPY WITH  WITH THE PAPER TODAY LIST IT  LISTEN BEFORE CONDITIONS MAKE  US A TREE CITY USA CITY AND  PEOPLE SHOULD READ THAT TO THE  WHAT THAT WHAT WE DO IN ORDER  TO TO GET THAT AS NATION AND  REALLY JUST BRINGS THE  IMPORTANCE OF TREES OUT OUT TO  THE FOREFRONT. AND WE WE  CHECKED THOSE 4 BOXES. I SAW  SOMETHING COME OVER ON SOCIAL  MEDIA THAT WE HAVE A SOLID  WASTE. OPERATOR KEVIN. HERE  AND I SAY THAT THANK  COMMISSIONER 36 AND-A-HALF  YEARS AND HE'S RETIRING 36 AND  A HALF YEARS I JUST THOUGHT  THAT WAS.  >> AND I REALLY RESPECT THAT  WHEN SOMEBODY STAYS AND THE  AND AND THE JOB FOR THAT LONG  AND.  >> THOSE OF YOU THAT DON'T  KNOW I'VE ALWAYS HAD A SOFT  SPOT FOR FOR SOLID WASTE  BECAUSE WHEN I FIRST MOVED  HERE. IT WAS VERY PRETTY  DESOLATE AND AND GARBAGE PICK  UP THE SPEED TWICE A WEEK AND  I REMEMBER THAT THAT'S RIGHT  AND I WAS A TEACHER SO I'D  SUMMERS OFF AND WHEN THAT  GARBAGE TRUCK CAME DOWN THE  STREET I WAS JUST SO HAPPY  BECAUSE OF SOMEBODY KNOWS  LITTLE YOU KNOW AND THEN WHEN  THAT WHEN THEY DID GET THE  ARMS, IT WAS A BIG DEAL WITH  FOR MY SON AND ALL OF HIS  FRIENDS. THEY JUST WAITED ALL  DAY FOR THAT GARBAGE TRUCK TO  COME JUST SO THEY CAN SEE.  >> THAT IT WAS THE MOST  AMAZING THING. I JUST WANTED  TO RECOGNIZE  >> ONE OF OUR FORMER FLORIDA  GOVERNOR'S BOB GRAHAM PASSED  AWAY TO GET BETTS THOSE OF YOU  KNOW WAS YOU LIVE RIGHT SPREE  ANY ACTUALLY LIVE RIGHT NEXT  DOOR TO THE CONSERVATION  FOUNDATION ESTATE. HAD SOME  VERY HOW SHALL WE SAY  INTERACTIONS WITH WHAT WAS  GOING WITH VERY HAPPY WITH.  >> WHEN THE ROLLING. CLUBS HAD  THEIR TOURNAMENT SORT ARE YOU  CALL HIM OUT THERE. HE ALSO  USED TO PLAY AT THE ROBARTS  ARENA ONCE A YEAR FOR  CHILDREN'S FOUND. I DON'T  REMEMBER THE CHARITY THAT WAS  GREAT TO SEE THEM THERE AND  BROUGHT BACK A LOT OF MEMORIES  BECAUSE I REMEMBER SEEING HIM  IN THE 70'S. YES, I WITHOUT  DIVULGING TOO MUCH ABOUT MY  AGE, I WHEN HE WAS AT ITS  HEYDAY. SO I WAS SAD LEARN  THAT, BUT I KNEW HE WAS IN  FAILING HEALTH. SO WHY DO WE  HAVE ANYTHING OUR OFFICERS  CITY PARK. ATTORNEY AND ANY  MANAGER OK, THANK YOU GREAT  CONVERSATION AND RE-RUN  MEETING THANK YOU.  >> SO SAY THAT FOR MYSELF BUT  ALL OF GREAT JOB THAT SO IT IS  41 AND I ADJOURN THIS MEETING.