ONE WE DON'T HAVE KIDS THAT  SHOULD POTENTIALLY A LEVEL 2  AND LEVEL ONE CLASS BECAUSE  THEY'RE NOT LEARNING THE  APPROPRIATE SKILLS THAT THEY  NEEDED THAT POINT IN TIME  RIGHT NOW WHEN WE'RE IN FULL  SUMMER WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE  COME BETWEEN 8.10 DEDUCE FROM  A VALUATION JUST AS YOU CAN  HEAR THE WATER SPLASHING IN  THE BACKGROUND SLIDE.  EVERYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT ANY  DAY OF THE THAT OPEN YOU CAN  COME IN AT ANY POINT IN TIME  ENOUGH FOR SOME EVALUATIONS WE  ALWAYS HAVE A CERTIFIED SO  MUCH DOCTOR ON SITE THAT HAVE  YOUR CHILD TAKE A SWIM  ASSESSMENT.  ♪ >> I'M STACEY LASALLE AND THE  EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT  COORDINATOR FOR THE CITY  OF NORTH PORT AND I'M GOING TO  BE TALKING ABOUT HAVING AN  EVACUATION PLAN IT'S A POINT  HAVE AN EVACUATION PLAN AHEAD  OF TIME AND IT'S VERY  IMPORTANT TO WRITE IT DOWN  BECAUSE THAT WAY YOU HAVE IT  SOMEWHERE PRESENT EVERYBODY IN  YOUR FAMILY CAN SEE IT AND  KEEP IT FRESH IN THEIR MINDS  AND YOU ALSO SHARE IT WITH  PEOPLE IN YOUR FAMILY OR YOUR  NEIGHBORS SO THAT THEY KNOW  WHAT YOUR PLANS ARE AHEAD OF  TIME AND HOW TO GET A HOLD OF  YOUR WAY TO LOOK FOR YOU AFTER  A DISASTER FOR YOUR EVACUATION  YOU SHOULD HAVE MULTIPLE  ROUTES TO GET TO LOCATION.  YOU'RE PLANNING TO GO TO JUST  BECAUSE TRAFFIC WAS TRAFFIC ON  75 MIGHT BE GRIDLOCKED THERE  COULD BE SOME VERY GOOD BACK  ROADS TO GET TO WHERE YOU'RE  GOING THAT COULD GET YOU THERE  MORE QUICKLY WITHOUT BEING  STUCK IN TRAFFIC WHEN YOU'RE  MAKING EVACUATION PLAN. WE  USUALLY TELL YOU 4 DIFFERENT  THINGS YOU SHOULD STAY HOME IF  YOU ARE NOT IN HIS OWN THAT'S  BEING EVACUATED AND IF YOUR  HOME IS BUILT OKAY TODAY IS  MONDAY APRIL FIRST 2024 AND IS  WE'RE IN THE CHAMBERS AREA AND  I LIKE TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT  ON RECORDS HYBRID ME A MUCH  MORE HAS BEEN PROPERLY HYBRID  MEETINGS FIRE AN EXPLOSION WE  BE KNOWLEDGE THOSE CAN BE  FOUND IN FORM OF VOTING  MEMBERS IS PRESENT.  >> CITY COMMISSION CHAMBERS, A  HYBRID MEETING ALLOWED VOTING  MEMBERS TO ATTEND AND  PARTICIPATE WITHOUT BEING  PHYSICALLY PRESENT IN THE ROOM  WHERE THIS FORM IS CAN A ROLL  CALL ON THE DYESS WE HAVE  MYSELF THEY'RE WHITE.  COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL  COMMISSIONER LANGDON AND VICE  MAYOR STOKED. SO NEXT WE WILL  HEAR FROM THE VIRTUAL ATTENDEE  WHICH COMMISSIONER RICH. WHO  MORNING. CAN YOU HEAR ME OK.  YEAH AND WE SEE IT  >> AND I LOVE NOW HAS  AUTHORIZED BY ARE YOU READY.  >> ALSO RISE BY CITY  COMMISSION POLICY NUMBER 2021  DASH 10. I'M ATTENDING THE  HYBRID MEETING. THE  COMMUNICATIONS MEDIA  TECHNOLOGIES. I'M EXPERIENCING  A MEDICAL CONDITION, INCLUDING  MANY DISABILITIES SPRINGS  PREVENTING ME FROM ATTENDING  IN PERSON AT THIS TIME, THANK  YOU.  >> I THANK YOU. AND REQUESTING  A MOTION TO APPROVE THE USE OF  CMT FOR THIS HYBRID. MEETING  ALL RIGHT WE HAVE A MOTION  MADE BY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL  TO APPROVE THE USE OF CMT FOR  THIS HYBRID MEETING AND THAT  WAS SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER  LANGDON SO VOTE. AND THAT ALL  RIGHT ALSO PRESENT WE HAVE  CITY ATTORNEYS SLAYTON.  ASSISTANT CITY CLERK, HOW OR  SPECIALIST OWNER. AND I SAW  FIRE CHIEF TITUS.  >> AND THE HOUSE AND LEVY'S  ARE GREAT POLICE.  >> THANK YOU.  >> THE CALL ALSO TO RECOGNIZE  FORMER COMMISSIONER LUKE AND  COLE AND HER TO LEAD US IN THE  PLEDGE.  ♪ ♪ >> LAST OF UNITED STATES  AMERICA AND TO CAN SWITCH  SPEND RESULT AND LAKERS  WORKING THIS.  >> ADAM AIR BEFORE WE GET  STARTED I JUST HAVE A QUESTION  WILL COMMISSIONER EMERICH BE  VOTING TODAY AND IF SO SHOULD  WE USE A VOICE VOTE FOR THAT  PURPOSE.  >> I I WAS VOICE THAT END THE  YES AND A MERE THE POLICY  REQUIRES THAT ALL VOTES MUST  BE BY ROLL CALL. SO WHEN YOU  DO THE VOICE THAT WANT TO DO  IT BY INDIVIDUAL UNKNOWN. OK  THANK ALL  >> LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO  PROVE THE A CHANCE DO HAVE A  MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA  MADE BY VICE MAYOR STOKES AND  SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER  LANGDON.  >> THERE'S NOTHING ELSE  >> SORRY VOICE.  >> VOICE VOTE, YES, OKAY, VICE  MAYOR. MAYOR WHITE YES.  COMMISSIONER LANGDON I MEAN,  MCDOWELL, COMMISSIONER  AVERAGE. YES, OKAY. SO WE HAVE  AN APPROVAL OF THE TO 0.  MOVING ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT.  THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT.  >> YES, WE HAVE JOB  >> JOEL I HAVE A FEW POINTS TO  MAKE REGARDING THE POTENTIAL  POLICE DEPARTMENT STATION.  THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN  THE ROAD AND WE HAVE IN THE  POTENTIAL BOND FOR THE POLICE  STATION. THE ROAD BY A SET  AMOUNT OF MONEY DIVIDED EVENLY  BETWEEN ALL PROPERTIES THIS  KIND OF BOND FAIR AND  EQUITABLE TO ALL PROPERTIES.  BUT IT HAS BEEN STATED THAT  THIS THE TYPE OF THIS TYPE OF  BY CAN'T BE USED FOR THIS  PROJECT IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A  BOND ATTACHED TO THEM ELITE  AND ASSESSED VALUE EACH  PROPERTY. THIS MAKES THE TAX  FOR VACANT PROPERTIES,  PROPERTY OF OLDER HOMES LOVE  THAT PLACES THE BURDEN ON  HOME'S ASSESSED HIGHER  INCLUDING FAMILIES WITH SECOND  HOMES ARE SNOWBIRDS. WHO GET  NO DISCOUNT TO THEIR TAPS AND  OF COURSE BUSINESSES WHO CAN'T  HOMESTEAD AND ARE ASSESSED AT  A HIGHER VALUE AND I MIGHT ADD  COMMERCIAL CREATE THE BALANCE  THAT WE NEED WITHIN OUR TAX  BASE BECAUSE THEY DO NOT  UTILIZE CITY SERVICES, THE WAY  RESIDENTIAL DOES ULTIMATELY  THE HEAVIEST BURDEN OF  TAXATION BUT TO THE ONES WHO  USE THE SERVICES LACED. I  DON'T DO THAT FAIR AT EVEN  BORDERLINE DISCRIMINATION  WE'RE GOING ALL 3 OF THE  PROPOSALS. THE POLICE  DEPARTMENT RECEIVES ALL THAT  THEY NEED TO FUNCTION AT THE  HIGHEST LEVEL OF THE FIRST  CLASS POLICE DEPARTMENT. ALL  THE BELLS AND WHISTLES  INCLUDED TO HIRE DESIGNS  INCLUDE ROOM TO GROW INTO THE  FUTURE. THE BUILDING THAT WE  CURRENTLY USE IS 18 YEARS OLD  AND WE CONSIDER IT OUTDATED.  HAS RAPIDLY IS TECHNOLOGY IS  ADVANCING. DON'T YOU THINK  THAT WITHIN 20 YEARS WE WILL  CONSIDER BUILDING OUTDATED  ALSO AND KEEP IN MIND THAT AS  SOON AS THE BUILDING  CONSTRUCTED. IT STARTS TO  DEPRECIATE THAT ONLY BUT TIME  BUT WOULD WEAR AND TEAR AS  WELL YOU KNOW NOT UTILIZING  ADVANCED MATERIAL AND  TECHNOLOGY. WELL, I HEARD  TAXPAYERS TO PAY FOR BUILDING  THAT THEY WILL NEED TO WORK IN  THE FUTURE FOR 40 YEARS  THROUGH STAGING DONE ALL THE  TIME WITH PROJECTS, IT'S A  SMART STRESS BUDGET HEARING  DATES OVER TIME OF THE  PROJECT. WELL IT JUST  PROGRESS. HE THREW SAME  EXCELLENT WAY TO NOT BURDEN  THE TAXPAYERS. I HAVE NOT SEEN  A PRIVATE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY  PRODUCED ANYTHING OTHER THAN  THE HIGHEST QUALITY PRODUCT  FOR THE END USER. THERE IS A  COLLABORATION THAT OCCURS WITH  EACH PARTNER WHICH I'VE ENDS  UP WITH A BETTER PRODUCT FOR  LESS MONEY AND FINISHED  QUICKER WELL, PARK IS AN  EXAMPLE, YOU MONIES FROM THE  OTHER DEPARTMENTS OR THEIR  PROJECT THAT IS WHAT CREATES  AN IMBALANCE WITHIN THE  OVERALL GROWTH OF THE CITY  WE'VE SEEN THAT DEMONSTRATED  IN OUR OWN CITIES PATH INSTEAD  LOOK TO THE OVERFLOW SQUARE  CUTS CAN BE MADE. WE CALCULATE  THE ANTICIPATED SUR TAX MONIES  TO START WITH TIME AND GROWTH  OCCURRED.  >> THERE MIGHT BE A AND MAY  DELAYING THE PEOPLE CARS AND  THINGS FROM THEIR IMPACT FEES.  >> ALSO.  >> ANYTHING OUT. WE HAVE  ANYONE ELSE. THAT'S ALL OK.  >> GOING TO MOVE TO ITEM 3.24  DASH 0, 5, 3, 6 AND I FAILED  RECOGNIZE CITY MANAGER  FLETCHER IN THE HOUSE RIGHT IN  THIS IS THAT CITY MANAGER.  >> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR,  GOOD MORNING RUN OFF THIS ITEM  OF DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE  ACTION REGARDING FUNDING  OPTIONS FOR YOU. OUR RECORD OF  PROJECT. REVIEWING  RECONSTRUCTION PROJECTS IN THE  APPROVED 2020 FOR 28. PLAYERS  ARE CUT OR PROJECT OTHER  POTENTIAL FUNDING SOURCES FOR  THE TIME, ESPECIALLY WITH THE  PROJECT. MOST RECENTLY WE HAVE  HAD PUBLIC DISCUSSION  REGARDING OUR ADDED THE  CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT TO  THE CONVERSATION WELL.  REGARDING FACT THAT THIS THE  USE OF IT FOR CENTRAL POINT OF  THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS. WELL  US WE WERE ABLE TO. WE TOLD  JERRY FROM OUR 5 IS JOINING US  HAS TO THE CONVERSATION OF THE  THAT YOU'RE LOOKING ARE GOING  HOW TO SET UP THAT POINT THE  WAY MIGHT REASONABLE FOR. THE  BOARD IN ORDER SECURE THE CITY  SAYS. JARELL ABOUT THAT WE  POSING AS A WITH 50 MILLION  DOLLARS IT WEAVER. REQUESTING  ADDITIONAL 35 MILLION DOLLARS  FOR. TO A PUBLIC REFERENDUM.  WE UNDERSTAND. THE COMMISSION  TO FUND AND THAT WE NEED TO  YOU KNOW IT FOR THE TOP MODEL  OF THE PROJECT. SO HOPEFULLY  FROM THAT. HAVE YOU GET THAT  UNDERSTAND IT YOU LOOKING AT  SHIP. BUT THIS TIME UP WITH  THE PRESENTATION LIKE A  CONDITIONERS.  >> AS INTRODUCED BY OF MAGIC  DIRECT REPEAT YOUR FINANCIAL  ADVISER. WE'VE PRESENTATION.  YOU MUST SECOND WORK HEARD  QUESTIONS THROUGHOUT THE  PRESENTATION SO THIS IS A VERY  HIGH LEVEL WE CAN YOU ALL  AREAS OF RACE. TYPE PROJECT  VIEW FUNDING CONSIDERATIONS  THAT ARE USED. TRANSACTION OUT  LOOKS TO WORK THROUGH SOME OF  THE OPTIONS THAT MAY WE PARK  UPDATE FOR ANYONE INTERESTED  RIGHT QUESTIONS THAT COME UP  WITH ONE IS TO WHERE THE  PARTS. AS MEN ARE STATED STAFF  IS LOOKING FOR ALTERNATIVES  PRESENT SUITABLE APPLY TO THEM  OPTIONS FOR.  >> MISSION TO CONSIDER.  PROJECT COST TERM AND THAT'S  SOMETHING THAT WE WILL GET TO  SO BEEN DETERMINED IT IS A  COMEBACK BUT CASE AT A  5 MILLION A ALTERNATE HEART  WENT BOTH CONSIDERED IN OUR  HOUSE.  >> SOME OF THE FACTORS TO  CONSIDER THE CITY'S CHARTER  WHICH IS FRUSTRATING HOW.  >> HOW WE GO ABOUT YOU KNOW  ACHIEVING APPROVALS TO MOVE  FORWARD OF APPLE SO. THERE ARE  SOME RESTRICTIONS OR FRONT OF  VOTE. CERTAIN INSTANCES MAN.  IF THERE WERE TO BE.  RECOMMENDATION BEFORE WITH A  HOUSE OR LEAST AND THAT'S A  PART OF. THAT WOULD LIKELY  REQUIRE A VALIDATION PROCESS  WE GO THROUGH A VALIDATION  PROCESS TO ENSURE THE CHARTER.  IT'S OFF HEALTH TO ITS THAT  WOULD BE DRIVEN COUNCIL CITY  ATTORNEY TO TO MAKE SURE IT'S  HANDLED THROUGH THE COURTS.  >> HOW DOES CAN EXPLAIN A  LITTLE MORE ABOUT THE  VALIDATION. HOW DOES THAT WORK  OUTSIDE AT THE PUBLIC. IF AT  ALL YEAH THAT'S GREAT.  REQUEST.  >> IT'S INTENDED TO INVOLVE  THE PUBLIC TO THE EXTENT IS  ANY CHALLENGE TO.  >> TO PUT TO THE PROCESS. IT'S  PROPOSE SO CERTIFICATES OF  PARTICIPATION IN AND  INSTRUMENTS ISSUED THROUGH.  >> THROUGH INDEPENDENT STAB BY  THE CITY SO THIS CASE YOU  WOULD HAVE. SEPARATE BOARD A  SEPARATE ENTITY.  >> THAT.  >> HAPPENED PAYMENTS ARE MADE  TO THAT ENTITY. EXPECT THAT  YOU BUDGET OR PARADE AN ANNUAL  BASIS TO MAKE THOSE PAYMENTS.  IN THE EVENT THAT DON'T LIKE  THE  STRUCTURE OF THE PROJECT WOULD  REVERT BACK TO TICKET HOLDER  SO THEY THE PROJECT. OUR  PAYMENTS ARE MADE TO KIDS.  TOPS HOLDERS SAID ANNUAL BASIS  AS OPPOSED SITTING ON HOOK TO  PAY THAT POPPED ISSUED BY THE  CITY. SO THE PROCESS IS OPEN  UP THERE'S A PUBLIC SO  PUBLICLY THAT THERE'S ANY  COMMENTS THE MAYOR HER BEFORE.  I JUDGE THE JUDGE. IT THE  WORKS TO DEVELOP PROCESS.  >> AND YOU KNOW THEIR  QUESTIONS AT THAT PARTICULAR  OKAY.  ♪ ♪ >> THERE ARE ALSO CREDIBLE SO.  YOU KNOW AS WE WORK THROUGH  PROCESS WE IDENTIFIED AND WE  HAVE IDENTIFIED THE REVENUES  THAT WOULD LIKELY BE AT ITS TO  SECURE.  >> A MAN TO PASS  >> HAS TO BE EVALUATED SO  CERTAIN NUMBER. YOU KNOW  PROJECT THEM OUT IS GOING  IMPACT. HOW MUCH THE PAST YOU  HAVE WITH THE CREDIT QUALITY  IS OF THOSE ROBBERIES AND  THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SEE  WATER AND SEWER, IT'S  SOMETHING WE SEE WITH  TRANSPORTATION REVENUE BUGS.  THE BETTER THE CREDIT LOWER  THE COST OF CAPITAL SO THAT'S  SOMETHING THAT WE WORK WITH  WITH STAFF PART OF PART THE  OR. SO THERE'S THAT PASSING  THIS BUDGET PASSED YOU CAN'T  HAVE KNOW MORE OR MAY. THAT  BECAUSE JUST BECAUSE YOUR BUCK  PASSES SO WHEN WE GO TO THE  CAPITAL MARKETS WE TALK ABOUT  POP THAT IS ALWAYS A HIGHER  NUMBER THAN THE CITY'S TRUE  BUDGET I SOMETHING THAT WILL  WORK WITH CLIENTS MAKE SURE  WE'RE VIOLATING YOUR ACTUAL A  RANGE OF POTENTIAL OPTIONS  EXIST. LOOK TO MITIGATE IT  INTEREST RATE RISK WE WANT  HELP THE CITY. ACCESS WAS  PONDS AND PAR WITH THE RATE  WITHOUT BEING EXPOSED TO  FUTURE RIGHT WRIST. BUT WE  ALSO DON'T WANT TO OVEREXTEND  BEFORE YOU NEED THE MONEY. SO  WHAT ABOUT THE 2 SO HAZING IS  OFTEN SOMETHING THAT WE WORK  WITH 2. JUST IN TO PUT BACK  OUR TAX EXEMPT. YOU'RE  REQUIRED TO SPEND THOSE FUNDS  THAT YOUR INTENT IS TO SPEND  THOSE FUNDS WITH SO WE WOULD  TIE THE FINANCING TO HAVE THE  MONEY IN PLACE WHEN YOU THE  MONTH WE HAVE TO PAY WE  OFTENTIMES DO AND THAT ABOUT  COST AVERAGES WHEN YOU HAVE  EXPOSURE TO THE PARK. ANY  QUESTIONS BRIDGE IS SET.  >> I MEAN IT'S THAT IN THE  EVENT YOU'RE FINANCING IT.  >> OTHER WORDS BORROWING WELL  THE REVENGE ISSUING A BOND.  WHERE THERE'S A FIXED  AMORTIZATION.  >> THE POINT YOU'RE TRYING TO  MAKE YEAH SO SO OUR  PERSPECTIVE WHETHER YOU'RE A  CERTIFICATE OF PARTICIPATION.  >> DEAL A BOMB  >> YEAH, THOSE ARE ALL THAT  INSTRUMENTS THAT ARE IN WHAT  THE SAME LEGALLY. SO YOU'RE  GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO MAKE  THOSE PAYMENTS. IT WOULD HAVE  PUT ALL THOSE IN THE SAME  BUCKET. THERE'S DIFFERENT  AVENUES AND THERE'S DIFFERENT  YOUR WAYS THAT WE ACCESS THE  FUNDS THROUGH THOSE VARIOUS  ELEMENTS, BUT. AT THE END OF  THE DAY THEY'RE ALL GOING TO  BE AMENDMENT UP CAPITAL. TO  THE EXTENT THERE IS A LEGAL  DISTINCTION BETWEEN. TOOK IT  TO STATION FALLS. IT REALLY IS  MORE OF A LEGAL. THE SECTION  THAT IS A PRACTICAL  >> AND THE I'M SORRY  COMMISSIONER AHEAD. YEAH I  MIGHT BE A LITTLE PREMATURE  WITH THIS QUESTION ONE OF THE  ATTRACTIONS OF DOING THE LEAST  HOWEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT IS  THAT.  >> WE WOULD DO THAT WITHOUT  GOING TO REFERENDUM FOR AND  IT'S NOT THE REFERENDUM. IT  WOULD BE A MILLAGE RATE.  INCREASE THE WAY WE'RE  CURRENTLY THINKING ABOUT IT  AND WE COULD AVOID WITH A  BACK. BUT I'M ASSUMING THOSE  PAYMENTS AND I THINK YOU'VE  JUST SAID THIS WOULD COME OUT  OF THE GENERAL FUND. CORRECT  IT'S AN OPERATING EXPENSE.  WOULDN'T BE LIKELY IN ORDER TO  MAKE THOSE LEASE PAYMENTS THAT  WIND WIND UP INCREASING THE  MILLAGE RATE SO WE MIGHT AVOID  ON THE FRONT BUT WOULD STUMBLE  INTO IT ON THE BACK AND IT'S A  PROBABLY WHAT WOULD HAPPEN.  >> TECHNICALLY YOU'RE  ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. YES, THE  THAT AND THAT'S WHAT THE  BUDGET AS COMES IN THE WIND IS  LEGALLY THERE'S DIFFERENT WAYS  TO ACCESS. YES SETTING UP OF  AND THE PANDA. TO RUN THAT  ACTION GREAT DEVELOPMENT  THOUGH ADDITIONAL REST. THE  SNOUT JUST TOOK THEIR HOLDERS  WOULD THAT BE SUBJECT TO  APPROPRIATION ANNUALLY WE  DON'T KNOW WHAT. BEFORE LOOKS  LIKE 100 NOW, AND THERE ARE  SOME ADDITIONAL WILL ABOUT YOU  MENTIONED A COUPLE. SCHOOL  DISTRICTS FOR EXAMPLE A LESS  THE SALES TAX SOLELY THEY USED  STATE FUNDS THAT ARE  APPROPRIATE OUT ANNUAL BASIS.  YOU PAY FOR THEIR SCHOOLS SO  MAJORITY OF THE 67 COUNTIES  HAVE PLACE SO THE CONSTRUCTION  AND THAT'S JUST HOW IT WORKS  THE FLOW FUNDS THROUGH THE  STATE. IT'S AN ANNUAL  APPROPRIATION IS NOT SOMETHING  TODAY TOO. SO SO THAT'S WHY IT  WORKS IN THAT INSTANCE AND  THAT'S WHAT WORKS AND SOME  DISTANCE FROM HOUSE. FROM  PAYMENTS BECAUSE THAT IS AN  ESSENTIAL SERVICE. SHE PAY FOR  THE CERTIFICATE OF THE LEASE  PAYMENTS ON THAT ALL RIGHT.  >> AND WITH ALSO BE SAFE TO  SAY THAT. ALI IS BACK OVER THE  LIFE OF THE WOULD COST MORE  AND DOING SOMETHING IN THE  BOND MARKET, I WAS LOOKING  SOME OF THE NUMBERS AND IT WAS  ABOUT.  >> 40 PLUS MILLION DOLLARS  MORE AN ACTUAL DOLLARS IT THIS  WOULD BE A HIGHLY FINANCING.  SO THE RISK IS.  >> MINIMAL YOU KNOW IT IF  YOU'RE LOOKING OVER A LARGE  YOU KNOW, A LARGE FIELD  THERE'S GOING TO BE A PRICE  BUT THERE ARE GOING TO BE SOME  NEW OFFICES THAT PROBABLY YOU  KNOW COMPARABLE TO A SALES TAX  OR ANOTHER I ATTACKED YOU  HEARD YOU KNOW. COPS THAT'S  PAPAL PROJECT YOU. THERE WILL  BE PRICE REGULAR. OKAY, THANK  YOU ALL OF YOU.  >> MAYOR.  >> MADE IT INTERESTING POINT  WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD. AND THE  FINANCING OF. THAT EVERY YEAR  THERE'S APPROPRIATIONS  SKIPPING. SO. RELATING BACK TO  OUR PROJECT. ASSUMING WE WERE  SERVICING WHETHER IT BE A BOND  OR WHETHER THE LEASE.  >> A FUNDING MECHANISM. SURTAX  WHICH HAS A 15 YEAR. ON IT AND  THEN WE'RE ON SURTAX FOR  PRESUMABLY. IT THAT WOULD BE A  SURTAX ON IS THAT. FROM A  FINANCING STANDPOINT FROM FROM  ON THE SHORE STEP AWAY AND SO  BIGGER CONCERN WEST CONCERN IS  SET IS REASONABLE. 2. THIS  KIND OF A FINANCING.  RECOGNIZING THAT ONE POINT  MURRAY FUNDING SOURCE HAS A  RENEWABLE TERM TO IT.  >> THAT'S NOT A COP, I MEAN AS  YOU KNOW, THERE'S A VARIETY OF  REVENUES THAT COME TO THE CITY  AND THEY'RE OR OR THEY HAVE.  LET'S FOR THE TOP OFTENTIMES  WHEN THOSE FINANCES OR PUT  PLACE WITH THE SECURITY THAT  IS NOT THE WHOLE TERM THERE'S  A BACKSTOP BUDGET APPROPRIATE  EXAMPLE, SO. AND THE VERY  DIFFERENT WAY COME BUDGET FOR  PARADE IS THE CITY PROMISED  PAY THROUGH THEIR ANNUAL  APPROPRIATION PROCESS IN THE  EVENT THAT SALES TAXES NOT  EXTENDED. THE NEW PROMISED THE  BONDHOLDER.  >> THAT IN EVERY YEAR YOU  WILL.  >> USE THOSE TALK ABOUT  DOLLARS MAKE THAT PAYMENT.  >> WHAT.  >> MAJOR DISTINCTION IN THE  CASE OF OF AN ESSENTIAL  SERVICE FACILITY SUCH AS  POLICE HEADQUARTERS IS YOU  HAVE TO USE THOSE DOLLARS  BEFORE USE DOLLARS FOR OTHER  NON-ESSENTIAL PURPOSES SO IF  YOU WERE TO USE A PUBLIC  PARADE. THE FOG ABOUT CENTRAL  PROJECT. THAT MIGHT NOT DEEMED  ESSENTIAL COURTS. BUT. POLICE  PROTECTION IS ESSENTIAL IN THE  COURTS ACROSS THE PORT SO SO  THOSE DOLLARS YOU HAVE  PRIORITY THE BOTTLERS WOULD  SEE THAT IT'S PRIORITY.  DESIGNATION AS OPPOSED TO WHAT  YOU OTHERWISE PROJECT.  >> YOUR ANNUAL APPROPRIATIONS  BACKING WILL FOR COMMISSIONER  SAID. WITH COPS POLICE  PURCHASE. ASSUMING PUT IT THIS  WAY SHOWING THAT. OTHER THAN  GENERAL FUNDS COULD BE USED TO  HELP FUND IT. THE CITY  FLEXIBILITY TO PULL FROM THE  FUNDING POCKETS SO TO SPEAK.  SO IN OTHER WORDS IF IF YOU  LOOK AT THE VARIETY OF FUNDING  BUCKETS WE'VE GOT POTENTIALLY  SURTAX. GENERAL FUND. ON  BALANCE THIS WE'VE GOT IMPACT  FEES TO SMALLER EXTENT. SO  THESE VARIOUS FUNDING BUCKETS  OVER THE COURSE OF SAY A 40  YEAR AMORTIZATION. WE GUARD OF  WHETHER WE'RE OWNED OF JOB ON  OR WHETHER WE'RE DOING. COPS  OR WHETHER WE'RE DOING WE  SPURT DO WE HAVE THAT KIND OF  FLEXIBILITY TO PULL FROM  WHATEVER BUCKETS BECAUSE IN  ESSENCE. THE CITIES PLEDGE AND  THAT'S IT WHICH ITS FINANCIAL  RESOURCES.  >> IT'S A GREAT DISTINCTION IS  YOU HAVE A PROMISE TO PAY  RECOVER BUT THE NOT TO THE  EXTENT THAT IT'S FOR THAT  PURPOSE YOU CAN'T USE GAS TAX  REVENUES FOR EXAMPLE A CITY  LIKE THIS YOU CAN'T USE.  UTILITY AND THAT UK'S LIBRARY,  SO THERE ARE ALSO RULES ARE  PUT IN PLACE THE HAPPY TRACK.  YES, IF YOU'VE GOT YOU KNOW  CERTAIN REMEDIES FOR LICENSE  LICENSE AND RULES THINGS LIKE  THAT AS LONG AS THEY'RE  AVAILABLE PAY IT PORTS THAT  PROJECT AND.  >> THOSE ARE THE SORTS AND  ALWAYS FRANK GETTING WORK SO  YOU CAN MOVE THROUGH THIS  PROCESS TO JUST I WAS  TRIGGERING ALL BECAUSE I DO  NOT SUBSIDY. THANKS QUESTIONS  THANK YOU LIKE I'M I'M YOU  GUYS AT.  >> I THOUGHT OF WHAT IT WAS  >> IF WE WENT IN THE DIRECTION  OF OUR COPS. I NEED  CLARIFICATION THE USE OF  SURTAX. TO MAKE THOSE PAYMENTS  IS QUESTIONABLE I THINK OUR  CITY ATTORNEY AND HER TEAM  DETERMINED THAT IN GENERAL NO  YOU CAN'T USE SURTAX TO PAY  THOSE THINGS BUT IF A CITY  OWNED NONPROFIT THE BUILDING  WE COULD WAS THAT THE  DETERMINATION CITY ATTORNEY.  >> YES THAT COMMISSION IS  INTERESTED IN THAT WILL HAVE  TO DIVE DEEPER INTO WITH ONE  COUNCIL BUT HE DID INDICATE  THAT THERE MAY BE A WAY THAT  WE CAN ARRANGE 3 THEY USE OF  THE CITY A NONPROFIT THAT  WOULD ALLOW  ♪ US TO OKAY. JUST WANTED THAT  CLARIFICATION.  >> WE ARE WORKING FOOTBALL  COUNSEL TO COMMISSION. IT'S  BECAUSE WE SUCH SHORT NOTICE  ABLE TODAY  ♪ RED WAS.  >> OKAY OKAY ALL RIGHT, THANK  >> I BE HIGHLY UNUSUAL OR IS  THAT SOMETHING THAT'S COMMONLY  DONE IN BY NATURE YOU'RE HOPS  RECORD IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT.  >> SO THE CHARTER RESTRICTIONS  HERE. MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN  YOU SEE. RIGHT THAT THE  QUESTIONS ABOUT USE IT SO  WRITE SPECIFICALLY YET TO  TYPICALLY SURTAX YOU COMES  THROUGH WITH IT FOR THE  PURPOSE OF GETTING LEVERAGE  THEY WOULD BY I REFERENDUM  APPROVAL. SO TIMES THAT'S HOW  YOU GET ORDER. SO BELIEVE  THAT'S THAT WOULD BE YOU KNOW  HOW WORK. OKAY THANK YOU FOR  THAT THANK YOU BOTH I OUT  >> TALKING UNDERSTAND WHAT IS  YOU HAITIAN HOPS WHAT IS THAT.  >> OBVIOUSLY ACTIVE. ALSO  DISSIPATION LIKE INSTRUMENT.  INSTEAD RECEIVING A PALL  THAT'S ACROSS THE THE CERTAIN  REVENUES DEDICATED TO THAT  LAW. A CERTIFICATE OF  PARTICIPATION IS EQUITABLE  OWNERSHIP HE'S OF ASSET. SO.  OR IS THAT WE HAVE A  100 MILLION DOLLAR FACILITY.  EVERY BILLION DOLLARS THAT  PURCHASED AND CERTIFICATES  STATION.  >> ISSUE.  >> WHAT PERCENT OF THAT  BUILDING. THE BUILDING'S USE 5  YEARS FROM NOW IF THE  COMMISSION'S STOP MAKING LEASE  PAYMENTS OR THE CORPORATION  THAT WAS SET TO MAKE THOSE  LEAST REPORT TO THE TRUSTEE TO  THAT. WORK FOR WHAT THE  OPTIONS ARE EACH. ALDER  OFFICER REALLY APPROPRIATE  THAT ASSET. SO THAT 5 TO 10 AT  4 THAT ASSET. SO IT'S PARTIAL  REAL STATE. TRANSACTION MAY  THROUGH TRUSTEE WITH THE  CORPORATION ESTABLISHED BY THE  CITY AND THE CITY MAKES  PAYMENTS THROUGH THAT  CORPORATION TO THE HOLDERS. SO  IT'S NOT BALL FOR REVENUES ITS  CERTIFICATE OF PARTICIPATION  IN OWNERSHIP YES.  >> COMMISSIONER AVERAGE DID  YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.  >> NOT NOT AT THIS TIME MAYOR  I'M TRYING TO GET ALL THE  INFORMATION IN MY HEAD AND  THEN FIGURE IT OUT FROM THERE  IT'S ON ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.  >> PRESSURE THAT PERSONALLY IT  MORTGAGE. PURCHASE AN ARROW.  THAT WOULD SOMETHING ONE BACK  TO HANDLE UP. WE CERTAINLY MY  HOUSES. UP TO THE BACK AND  HAVE ALL BUT FOR A LARGE  FACILITY WHERE YOU HAVE  MULTIPLE TO PAY THAT WOULD BE  KIND OF A CONSORTIUM OF MORE  BECAUSE IT'S THE PROPERTY THAT  THEY. NOT SURE.  >> GOOD ANALOGY THAT AND  HELPFUL PERSPECTIVE LAYMAN'S  TERMS. THANK YOU FOR THAT.  >> MENTION HERE THE TIMING OF  THE OPTIONS, THE. APPROACH  WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE  COME BACK TO FORMAL  ♪ AT 14 YOU  ♪ SHOUT. TEAM DEVELOP THE  OBJECTIVES MISSIONS TIME.  PAUL. AS WE WORK. PRO BONO  WORK CITY ATTORNEY BOB HAUS A  LITTLE TO THE LEGAL STRUCTURE  THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT WE'RE  THAT YOU KNOW GET POLICY  DIRECTION WHAT ARE THE LEGAL  OPTIONS. THEN PARK THE NUMBERS  GOT COMFORT OF WHAT ACID IS  BUT THAT'S LOT OF PRIVATE  THAT'S WHAT ART OF SURVIVAL  CONSIDERATION. FINALIZE THAT  FINANCIAL PLAN FOR BRINGING IT  BACK TO. SO GENERAL THE MAN'S  ALTERNATIVES THAT ARE  TYPICALLY USE. IT HAS BEEN  USED BY THE CITY. FOR  ADDITIONAL BACK WAS SO BANK  LOANS ARE FOR WE YOU DIFFERENT  FINANCING INSTITUTION, WE  ASKED GIVE US THEIR PROPOSALS  FOR WHAT THEY THINK THE BEST  CONDITIONS TERMS OF INTEREST  RATE WOULD FOR THAT THOSE  CONDITIONS COULD BE CALLED A  THEY CAN YOU KNOW WHAT THE  STRUCTURE IS FOR ONE ONE  POTENTIAL WE HAVE A LOT OF  FLEXIBILITY IN HOW WE NEED  SHIP THOSE BACK CLOSE TO  PRIVATE PLACEMENT WITH THE  CITY SAYING WHAT'S THE  TUITION.  TAKE PLACE COMMENTS AS A  PATIENT COULD BE A DRAWDOWN  LOT OF CREDIT. YOU ARE RIGHT.  OUR COULD BE YOU JUST A LONG  TERM. SINCE THIS IS A LARGE  ASSET. IT WOULD THE AMORTIZED  OVER A SIGNIFICANT PERIOD TOP  PUBLIC COMMENT. THE BENCH,  GENERATIONAL EQUITY SO THIS IS  A 50 YEAR PROJECT WE'RE  TALKING ABOUT AMORTIZING THOSE  BACK LOW TIDE. WOULD NOT BE.  YOU COULD DO WITH A LOT OF  MARKET RIGHT WRIST. WE WOULD  LIKELY ONLY USE A PROCESS AS  PLUMBING SO TO GET IT WITH THE  CONSTRUCTION, BUT PART OF THAT  WOULD BE THE CONSTRUCTION LOAD  TYPE. SO THE OTHER OPTION IS  JUST GO STRAIGHT TO A BOMB  THREAT ACTION WHEN ABOUT  TRANSACTION. CERTIFICATES OF  PARTICIPATION LEASEBACK  STRUCTURE WOULD BE IN HUNT. SO  SO IT'S A VERY SIMILAR  PROCESS, THERE'S JUDICIAL  STUFF. THERE'S THINGS THAT ARE  DIFFERENT THAN A BUT. OR FOR  US IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS  ESSENTIALLY THE SAME. SO THAT  COULD BE ISSUED TO TAKE OUT A  CONSTRUCTION LOVE OR USED TO  FUND THE CONSTRUCTION. ON THE  FRAUGHT THAT'S PROJECT COST  WILL BE DROPPED OUT.  CONSTRUCTION TRADITION SO IT  WAS FIXED RATE. THE CITY THAT  30 YEAR FIXED RATE 40% OR A  QUARTER PERCENT OR SOMETHING  LIKE THAT THAT'S. REALLY GOOD  COMPARED TO WHERE YET THE  MARKET IS WE'VE GOT SOME  SLIDES SHOW YOU THE TOW BUT  YOU GET A LONG-TERM FIXED RATE  IN THAT RANGE THE CLEAR  COMFORTABLE THAT YOU WANT TO  HAVE CERTAINTY TO JUST LOCKED  UP, JUST KNOW THERE COFFINS.  AS YOU ALL KNOW, YOU KNOW THE  CITY DOES ACTIVELY REVIEWS ITS  CREDIT PROFILE WHEN THEY  STAFFING CALL THAT THAT  RECEIVE SAVING SO THAT'S  SOMETHING THAT WE BRING.  >> MAYOR HAS DO YOU FIND. IN  THE MUCH OF A DISPARITY ARE  DIFFERENT IN RATE BETWEEN  STRAIGHT GOP GENERAL  OBLIGATION BONDS COPS. WEISE  PURCHASE LAGEMAN I MEAN WHAT'S  MOST ECONOMICALLY EFFICIENT UP  3 OR ARE THEY. THE  >> YES, SO THAT IF WE'RE  TALKING ABOUT SAME CREDIT. YOU  KNOW.  CITY YOU KNOW CREDIT WOULD BE  GEO OR IMPLIED FISH WERE RIGHT  RIGHT. BUDGET APPROPRIATE OR.  YES, SOME TYPE OF STRONG  REVENUE WITH ROOFTOP START FOR  EXAMPLE OR YOU SO IT THAT'S  KIND OF THE DOUBLE A THAT'S  WHAT WE TALK ABOUT COPS TO  PROBABLY BE IN THAT STRONG  REVENUE RANCH BECAUSE IT  ESSENTIALLY WOULD BECOME  BUDGET APPROPRIATE CREDIT. A  LITTLE BIT FOR HIM THAT YOU  DON'T HAVE UNIVERSAL  INVESTORS. IT WAS YOUR TICKETS  IS RICH. ALL THOSE FRONTS.  ACTUALLY YOU WOULD HAVE IF YOU  ARE PURCHASERS OF THOSE NOTES  BUT EFFECTIVELY YOU BE IN THAT  DOUBLE A RANGE. SO IT'S NOT  SIGNIFICANT TO WHERE YOU PAY.  6% THE 1ST HALF YEARS PERCENT  IF YOU DID. BUT IT BUT IT  WOULD BE 20 BASIS OKAY. SO  OVERNIGHT. CHANGED IT ALL.  COMMISSIONER LANGDON.  >> YEAH JUST CLASSIFICATION ON  THE CALL OPTIONS SO.  >> THAT WOULD BE THE ABILITY  AND THE CITY TO SAY HEY WE  WANT TO PAY OFF THE SNOW  DIDN'T SAVE ANY INTEREST  PAYMENTS AND THAT WOULD BE A R  SOS. AND A SORT OF LIKE A NO  PENALTY EARLY PAYOFF RIGHT  KIND OF A IT IS, BUT A LITTLE  COOLER AND THAT WE CAN.  >> SO BRINGING WE'RE WORKING  WITH HIM BEFORE THE FINANCING.  YOU CAN ISSUE A 5% COUPON AND  A 4% INTEREST RATE ENVIRONMENT  WHERE YOU GET. SO ABOUT 20.  ONE DOLLAR THE THAT SOLD. YOU  WOULD ACTUALLY FOR A  100 MILLION ONLY ISSUE. 85  BECAUSE YOU HAVE MOST  IMPORTANT. YOU ADVERTISE THAT  PREMIUM OVER THE 30 YEARS BUT  TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU DO THE  CALL IN 10 YEARS YOU CELEBRATE  THAT PREMIUM YOU TAKE THAT AND  STRUCTURES PER SE. SO THE MOST  RECENT EXAMPLES OF WHERE YOU  HAD A BALL THE PLACE AND THAT  FOG TRANSACTION WAS REFER THAT  TO THE BACK WALL. SO LAST YEAR  1ST QUARTER WHICH IS WHEN WE  CLOSE TO SUNRAIL THIS ACCEPT  PIECE OF THAT TRANSPORTATION  UP TO POINT BUT FINANCES FOR  PERRY OFFICIAL AND VERY TRACK  OF. RIGHT UP ON TRANSACTIONS  ARE ACTUALLY ARE THE RATIO FOR  TEXAS PRAY. SO WE WOULD WORK  ENDS SHOULD DO. LIKED ABOUT 4  WE WORKED FOR WHAT MAKES THE  MOST SENSE WHAT GETS THE THE  BEST MATCH LOT AND THEN WE  WOULD LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITIES  COME  >> THANK YOU FOR THAT AND BACK  TO THE CALL OPTION FOR A  MOMENT. ARE THERE ALSO CALL  OPTIONS ON THE LENDER SIDE FOR  THESE VARIOUS FUNDING OPTIONS.  >> IT'S THE RISK THERE.  >> ABSOLUTELY SO SO I TALK  ABOUT IN THE BANK LOAN PROCESS  GET A 30 YEAR AMORTIZATION  WITH A 10 YEAR.  >> STRUCTURE THAT WOULD BE A  PUT.  >> SO JUST LIKE THAT US REVISE  THE CALL. BUT PUT BECAUSE  THAT'S WHAT THEY CAN PUT IT  BACK TO THE CITY. THE CITY  GOES THE MARKET FOR A TIES,  THE FINAL 20 YEARS, YOU KNOW.  >> SO THOSE THOSE ARE ALL  COMMON IN THE PUBLIC. WELL,  BUT THEY'RE VERY TOP OF THANK  THERE IS PART IS YOU TEND TO  CALL THAT STANDARD. ALL THE  PUBLIC IN THE PUBLIC MARKET DO  IT I CALL 8 YOUR CALL PART OF  THE.  >> THE PRICE OF PROCESS THEY  AND BANKS IT'S ALL THAT IT  WILL TIME TO SET THE OK THANK  >> SO THEY GET IN THE WEEDS, A  LITTLE MORE WORDS WE IN THE  BACK THE BOND ISSUANCE ARE A  LOT OF THE REASONS WHY THE  CITY RECENTLY. THEY'RE CHEAPER  TO PUT PLACE. YOU DON'T HAVE  THIS DOCUMENTS ARE A  DISCLOSURE REQUIREMENTS DON'T  HAVE TO GO GET RATING FOR A  FACT. ALL OF THE PUBLIC TAKE  AS LONG TO PUT IN PLACE. THE  BOND ISSUANCE STATE THAT  BENEFIT THE CITY WE'RE GOING  TO GO JUST ISSUE. ONE PLUS  YEARS. ISSUANCE IS THE WAY TO  GO AND RIGHT NOW SO IT'S ABOUT  70 BASIS POINTS ISSUE A PUBLIC  OFFERS BACKLOG. A LOT OF  THAT'S DRIVEN BY SOME OF THE  THE ISSUES THAT WE WITH  REGIONAL BANKS LAST YEAR JUST.  IT WORKED US.  >> WHAT WAS THAT AGAIN 70  BASIS POINTS YET.  >> BUT SO 75 BASIS POINTS  REPORT POINT. ANOTHER THING IS  THE BOND ISSUANCE HAS A  STANDARD AND YOUR CALLS SO  THAT'S JUST A NOTE YOU WILL  HAVE THE ABILITY GO BACK IN.  REPRICE A LOWER INTEREST  >> THINK COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL  QUESTION WHAT ON MISSION IS  MORE BENEFICIAL. MORE NOW.  WHAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. HARD SAY  I UNDERSTAND IN WHEN WOULD IT  NOT THAT WHAT HAPPENS LOOK  LIKE IF WE HAD 40 YEAR. YES,  SO.  >> LET'S SAY. YOU KNOW, LET'S  SAY FEDERAL LEVEL.  >> THERE'S WITH YOU JUST SO.  DOESN'T MAKE SENSE THAT A  PUBLIC TEXAS, FEEL FOR SOME  BACK OF. THERE IS A HIGH  PERCENTAGE OF YOU THAT IT'S  OWNED BY NOT INDIVIDUALS,  MAYBE CORPORATIONS USE A LOT  ABOUT THAT. BUT BACK TO OFFER  A DIFFERENT SHOULDER. IT'S  ALSO REALLY A IF PUT TO THE  MARKET UP BASELESS JUST TO  PROVIDE EXAMPLE.  >> SO THERE'S A LOT PRIDE IN  OUR THE MUNICIPAL MARKET FOR  THOSE ON LEFT.  >> AND GREAT BAR IS THE RANGE  OF WHERE RATES OF BAD FOR EACH  OF THOSE SPOTTY LAST 10 YEARS.  AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE LIGHT  BLUE IS WHERE RATES WERE YOUR  THE DARKER BLUE LIVES WHERE  RATES ARE NOW. IS ON THE RIGHT  AND THAT'S WHAT WE ALL ARE  CUSTOM SAYING. STATUS WHAT  ORANGES ARE BASED OFF OF OUR  LOWS AND THE OVERNIGHT FUNDS  RATE WHICH IS WHAT GETS ALL  THE ATTENTION.  >> WITH THAT THE WITH THAT.  WELL THERE SO.  >> SO SAME SAME RANGE. YOU  LOOK AT IT YOU KNOW WHERE  RATES ARE.  >> YOU KNOW WAS WILL.  >> RIGHT NOW THE MUNICH HER  RIGHTS ARE REALLY CLOSE TO  WHERE THEY WERE YOU KNOW THE  25 BASIS POINT TO WHERE THEY  WERE A YEAR YOU LOOK TO THE  TREASURY CURVE AND LIKE 50  YEAR. SO THE CASE WAS SO JUST  BY NATURE OF THE RIGHT PERSON.  THE TREASURY PER IS WHY OUR  OTHER UNDERPERFORM THE TAXES  ON MARK. SO WHEN YOU HEAR A  PARK ON THE PERFORMER FLY.  YOU'RE UNDERPERFORMING IF YOUR  RATE IS. SO IF WE ISSUE THAT  THE PUBLIC MARKET WITH A 60%  RATE. THAT'S OUT BEFORE HAS  THERE IS ONLY A 21% SO IT  SHOULD BE A SUNNY NOT PERCENT  THE. ATTACKS THAT'S RIGHT  BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE  CORPORATE TAX RATE SIR. FOR  THE LAST 6 MONTHS. THE TAX  THAT MARKET HAS OUTPERFORM THE  TREASURY MARKET OBVIOUSLY  BECAUSE DOW. SO THERE HAS BEEN  UP. YET THERE HAS BEEN A FS  APPLIED THE MAN. SO IT'S A  VERY ECONOMICS. YOU PRICE OF  THE  PUSHED OUT. IF YOU TALK ABOUT  THAT. THANK PRICED OFF THE  TREASURE. WE DIDN'T KNOW  PROPER PLACES. THE BANKS ARE  DOING THAT. INTEREST RATE  PLUS. REST. YEAH, THAT AND  THEY MULTIPLIED BUT 0.7 9. AND  UP. SO YOU'RE STARTING WITH A  LARGER NUMBER THERE'S NOT BE  ABLE TO GET BACK TO YOU. RIGHT  THAT ACTION SO I WOULD WANT.  AND WE TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE  HALLS OF THE BACKLOG FOR  SOMEBODY ELSE. YEAR. LET WITH  HAT BY THE BANKS IS GOING OUT  SOME BACKS. WELL HAS OR 7  YEARS. SO THE NUMBER OF  ACTUALLY GO OUT LONGER THE  YEAH, THERE'S HIGHER SO RIGHT  NOW THE PAYMENTS WHEN YOU ARE  THE EVEN THOUGH POSSIBLE WANT  TO DO A PUBLIC AND THAT ABOUT  THAT IS THE RATES ARE STILL  LOW ENOUGH TO WORK IT ALL SETS  WITH INCREASE INITIAL COST.  BECAUSE OF LANGUAGE TO THE  BACK. IT'S THE EXTENT THAT  THEY'RE ALLOWED WHICH WE DON'T  CURRENTLY HAVE CITY SUPPORT  FOR BUT IF THERE'S A CHANGE  BENEFIT TOO. OVER TAX RATE.  THEY COULD PASS THAT OFF THE  CITY AND CERTAIN DOCUMENTS  THAT WAS THE CASE PARTS OF THE  LAST. CALLED DECISIONS ARE  SOMETIMES OUT, WE'RE VERY  EXCITED. JONES IS LIKE A BANG  ON ABOUT THAT WAS THE RAZOR  WIRE BRAINS ARE WIRED FOR  BATTLE, SO AS MORE YOU KNOW.  FOR STAFF PUBLIC DISCLOSURES.  IT'S CONTINUED SURVEILLANCE IS  JUST COST. SO IT TAKES ACTOR  6, 8 WEEKS TO DO PUBLIC DEAL  BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO NEW YORK  TRADE YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH  THOSE EXTRA STEPS TO DOING  THAT DISCLOSURE ABOUT.  SO YOU  WANT TO PRESERVE THE FRONT END  OF PICTURE SO ONCE DECISION  MADE.  >> CORRECT. RULES THAT ARE  APPROPRIATE.  >> WE GET YOU.  >> STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS  WHERE STATIONED, DIRECT  PLACEMENT.  >> HOPE YOU OFTEN FEEL THAT  HELP GIVE YOU TYPE OF OR DO  THE DISHES SO. WE DON'T HAVE  TO GO THROUGH THE DIFFERENCES  ALWAYS SAY, BUT THERE ARE  SEVERAL STEPS THAT WILL YOU.  WHY RECOMMEND SOMETHING WHEN  WE COME TO ASKED FOR. APPROVAL  TO MOVE FORWARD. AND THEN WE  GET A SCHEDULE AND WORK  THROUGH THE WORKING COME BACK  GET POLLS CLOSE. JUST A  BALLPARK. YES THAT'S HERE. YOU  KNOW WE'VE 30 OR STRUCTURE ARE  NOW  AND FOR A LITTLE LOWER. AS YOU  GO LONGER, BUT REALLY AFTER 20  YEARS STARTS THE A LOCAL LAW  SO.  >> ABOUT GO LONGER.  >> YOU KNOW THE MILITIAS HAS  THAT'S HOW GOING TO PAY  CERTIFIED YOU KNOW WHETHER  IT'S 30 YEAR DEAL OR 15 YEAR  DEAL WILL BE A LITTLE HIGHER,  BUT IT'S NOT THE SAME  >> IS IT REASONABLE. FOR  PROJECTS SUCH INSISTS WITH  DOLLARS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT  AND WHAT ISIS. PEOPLE PROJECT.  FOR YEARS, 50 YEARS FOR 30  YEARS. I MEAN IT'S A IT'S NOT  THE.  >> NO IT'S NOT TOP 30 YEARS  TYPICALLY. A SWEET SPOT FOR  THAT BECAUSE SOME POINT YOU'RE  GOING TO HAVE YOU KNOW REAL  PLACE COSTS AND OTHER BANKS  THAT. MAKE IT TO WHERE IT'S  IT'S AN AFFORDABILITY  STANDPOINT LONG TERM.  >> YOU CAN DO IF YOU GET UP.  IF THE YEAR DEAL.  >> IT YOU KNOW AND JUST TO DO  THAT. BUT IS THAT HEARD YOU  KNOW FROM A POLICY STANDPOINT.  AND YOU YOU'LL SEE THE PAYMENT  DIFFERENCE. IT'S JUST ENOUGH.  >> PICK UP BY LAW. WANT YOU  CHAMPS FOR YOURSELF. OR YOU'RE  UP FOR ANOTHER 10 OR 20 YEARS.  QUESTION AND THERE ARE  PROJECTS IN UP SEE YOU KNOW  CORPORATE FINANCE. THE  CINDERELLA THINGS LIKE THAT  YOU KNOW IT'S IT'S NOT  SOMETHING THE GOVERNMENT'S TOO  BECAUSE IT'S JUST. THAT WILL  PASS TO MAKE IT WOULD  TYPICALLY SHE USED YOURSELVES  IN.  >> COMMISSIONER LANGDON HAD A  QUESTION THANK AND VICE MAYOR  TRIGGERED A QUESTION FOR ME  HOW IS ONGOING MAINTENANCE OF  THE BUILDING HANDLED UNDER  DIFFERENT SCENARIO AND SO THAT  SO WE REGARDLESS TYPE. THAT'S  A LEASE HOLDER PAY FOR WE PLAY  SAYING PLUMBING. I MEAN IF  THERE'S A CHAIN I'M SURE IT  WOULD BE THE CITY'S INSURANCE  THAT WOULD HAVE TO COVER THAT  THAT SORT OF MORE ROUTINE  MAINTENANCE ARE THERE  DIFFERENCES. AND HOW THOSE  COSTS ARE HANDLED OVER THE  TERM OF ONE.  >> CAME UP IN THE PUBLIC  COMMENT EARLIER P 3 PROJECT.  IF THEY DO THAT EVERY.  >> WHOLE ACID IS A TRIPLE  LEASE AND THERE REALLY IS NO  TO THE CITY. IN EITHER  SCENARIO. SO IS SOME BEST BUT  WITH THIS I WILL MANAGE. BUT  THOSE COSTS ARE BUILT INTO  THOSE MAGIC CONTRACTS AND EVEN  THE TRACKS WILL ULTIMATELY  DEFERRED TO SO WHAT'S MORE  PROMINENT A TRADITIONAL  MUNICIPAL. THAT'S MASK. IS  THAT DESIGN BILL BECAUSE ALL  OF OTHER MATCH THAT WITH A  CONTRACT LIKE YOU WOULD ANY  OTHER CITY ASSET. YOU KNOW OR  YOU JUST HANDLE INTERNALLY.  FOR EXAMPLE. OUR STATION CYCLE  FIRE STATION NASA. FOR ARE  SAYING IT'S GOING TO BE VERY  MUCH LIKE AND THEY'RE GOING  PROVIDE THE FUNDS. HALF OF  WHAT THE COST SO THAT'S THE  REAL BENEFIT OF THE  STRUCTURES. THERE'S A MAX  REISS AND THAT'S THERE IS REST  AS PUT OFF TO THE DEVELOPER.  THEY ARE VERY EFFICIENT AT  DOING THESE PROJECTS SO  THEY'LL GET FASTER THE. REZA  TO PUBLIC WORKS AND ALL THAT  SO SO THE BENEFITS REALLY.  TIME. CAP IS WALTER WHEN YOU  LOOK AT OBJECT.  >> SO WHAT I'M HEARING IS  REGARDLESS OF HOW YOU GO THE  CITY WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR  ADDITIONAL COSTS RIGHT AND. P  3 CONTRACT IS GOING TO BE MORE  EXPENSIVE BECAUSE THAT'S BUILT  INTO THE PRICING MODEL AND  WHY.  >> BUT A PEEP THROUGH PROFIT  WHAT MALL IS USED AND WHAT  THAT YOU LIKELY GOING TO SAVE  MONEY AND THAT YOU'RE NOT  GOING TO HAVE OUR TRACK  CONSTRUCTION PERIOD. AND  THEY'RE ABLE TO RUN ALL YOU  KNOW OUTSIDE OF A TRADITIONAL  SO SO TIMES THAT POINT. IT'S  TYPICALLY SHORTER DURATION OF  THE PROJECT COMPLETION BUT  THAT FROM MAY. I POINT THEY'RE  NEGOTIATING IT SO THEY HAVE  THE SERVICE STANDARDS THAT  HAVE TO BE MET. YOU'VE AGREED  SEE THE PRICE BE PAID IF THE  PRODUCT AND JUST LIKE WE SAW  WITH THE EXPRESS LANES TO  ORLANDO AND I FOR THE TARIFFS  GO UP AND AND COPPER GOES UP.  IT WAS ON HOOK FOR HUNDREDS OF  MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. THAT'S  ABOUT DO IT. DOES NOT BUILD  THAT YOU CAN BUT THAT RUST OFF  TO. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER  NOW. THE DESIGN BUILD  >> THE CITY THAT PROCESS  DESIGNED BUILD IT'S NOT LIKE  OK WE'RE GOING TO HIRE 20  COMPANY TO DO THE DESIGN BUILD  THE CITY THOUGHT IT.  >> YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY ALL YOUR  INTEGRAL TO THE PROCESS AND  THROUGH BROUGHT THE ENTIRE  PROJECT PATIENTS, ABSOLUTELY.  >> AND CHANGE ORDERS ARE  ISSUED. VERY SMOOTH AND POLE.  >> MATCH BUT COME UP YOUR  SINGLE PERSON, BUT PROJECT  MIKE TO BE A. SO SO LOOK AT  YOU. WELL THE PAYMENTS WOULD  BE. WANT TO PROVIDE SOME REAL  PARADE OF AND THESE ARE LIVE  PROJECTION SO 85 YOU 8.5  MILLION THAT COULD JUST TAKE  YOU KNOW EXTRA 530,000 THE 5.8  5. SO THE BASE STATION LOOK AT  A LITTLE OVER 5 MILL YEAR.  HEART 6 MILLION LEFT ALONE  THAT'S A 30 YEAR. OR A 122,  7.6. THAT'S ABOUT  >> AND JUST FOR CLARIFICATION  DEBT SERVICE AS PRINCIPAL PLUS  INTEREST NOT JUST THE  INTEREST.  >> HOPE WAS THAT TRUST AND  THAT INCLUDES ISSUANCE COSTS  >> THAT SERVICE  >> WHOLE PLUS YEARS.  >> WHAT ABOUT THE  >> SO THE FEES ARE GOING TO BE  PART OF PRINCIPLE. SO SO IN  THIS INSTANCE. WE'LL TAKE A  122 MILLION FOR EXAMPLE,  YOU'RE GOING TO PAY. A CERTAIN  PERCENT WHETHER THAT'S.  SPECIFIC NUMBERS THAT YOU'RE  GOING TO PAY IT'S 100,000  ADDITIONAL COSTS THAT'S FOR  UNDERWRITERS TO STARTED TO  DROP OFF LIMITS. TO COME  TOGETHER GOING TO BE  ADVERTISED AS  >> TRANSACTION THAT ISSUE. SO  THE TOTAL OF ISSUES. GET  QUESTION  >> SO THIS IS THE SECOND TIME  I'VE SEEN 85 MILLION. WHEN WE  HAVE A DISCUSSION IT WAS THE  122 MILLION WHICH WOULD BRING  GROWTH TO 2065. A 100 MILLION  WOULD BRING GROWTH TO 2050 FOR  THE DESIGN PLANT. WHAT IS THIS  85 BRINGING GROWTH TOO.  BECAUSE I HAVE NOT SEEN THIS  85 MILLION UNTIL.  >> THAT'S WHAT WE ASKED HIM TO  PROVIDE IN AND THAT'S BECAUSE  WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING THE  35 MILLION AND THE 50 MILLION  SO THE 50 MILLION FROM SURTAX  THE 35 MILLION FROM CAPITAL  IMPROVEMENT MILEAGE. AND SO WE  JUST ABSOLUTELY RUN THE  NUMBERS FOR THAT OBVIOUSLY WE  DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING  TO LAND, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'VE  TALKED ABOUT WE WANTED HIM  INCLUDE THAT IN HERE.  >> 85 MILLION JUST THE BOND  HEART OF THAT BECAUSE THE IF  WE WERE TO GO TO A 100 MILLION  WHERE'S THAT 15 MILLION COMING  FROM.  >> THE DISCUSSIONS HAVE BEEN A  NUMBER OF OTHER FUNDING  SOURCES, SO IN SOME PROPERTY.  A POTENTIAL TRANSFER FROM THE  BUILDING FUND FOR PERCENTAGE  THAT THEY OCCUPY OF THE.  HEADQUARTERS. I BELIEVE THERE  WERE SOME GRANTS THAT WERE  BEING LOOKED INTO AND  POTENTIAL APPROPRIATIONS. SO  WE KEPT WITH THAT SINCE WE'VE  BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT 85  NUMBER WE WANT TO KEEP THAT IN  HERE FOR. YOU CAN SEE SO  HERE'S THE FOLLOW-UP QUESTION.  SELLING PROPERTY TAKES TIME  AND EFFORT.  >> THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT  THE PRICE THAT WE WANT IS THE  PRICE. WE'RE GOING  TRANSFERRING THE BUILDING  THAT'S A LITTLE BIT EASIER.  APPROPRIATIONS ARE UP IN THE  AIR BECAUSE WE'RE RELYING ON  OTHER FEDERAL AGENCIES. I  THINK WE'RE GOING TO GO TO  CONSTRUCTION ONCE WE GET ONCE  WE GET VOTER APPROVAL. AND  WE'RE STILL SHORT 15 MILLION.  WHAT HAPPENS THAT.  >> WE WON'T GO TO CONSTRUCTION  SHORT 15 MILLION. SO.  >> WE HAVE A 50 MILLION CHANGE  NUMBER THAT WE CONSTRUCTED.  >> I'M SORRY EITHER. I THINK  WHAT YOU SAID SIR.  >> IT HAPPEN IF THE NUMBER  THAT WE CONSTRUCT.  >> NOT CONSTRUCT A WE HAVE A 5  HIGH.  >> WHEN WE WENT TO THE VOTERS  FOR PRICE BOULEVARD PHASE.  ONE.  >> WE ASKED THEM FOR THE  ABILITY TO ISSUE BONDS  UP TO 80 MILLION. WE GO TO THE  VOTERS AND SAY WE WANT TO  ISSUE BONDS, WHATEVER THAT'S  GOING LOOK LIKE UP TO A  100 MILLION. WE DON'T HAVE TO  ISSUE IT UP TO THAT  100 MILLION WE MAY ONLY ISSUE  IT UP TO FALL. IF WE SELL  THOSE PROPERTIES IF IF IF IF  BECAUSE IF WE'RE GOING TO  SHORTCHANGE THE DEVELOPMENT OF  THE PD. IF WE DON'T SELL THERE  SO MANY IFS. BUT THE PD STILL  NEEDS THE STATION AND PLAN FOR  FUTURE GROWTH BECAUSE I DON'T  WANT WHAT HAPPENED OVER THERE  TO HAPPEN AGAIN WITH THIS NEW  ONE. WHY NOT JUST GO UP TO THE  POTENTIAL OF A 100 MILLION.  KNOWING THAT WE MIGHT HAVE  THESE OTHER 3 OR 4 AVENUES OF  REDUCING THAT IF YOU'RE  >> THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO DO  YOU CAN DO THAT I.  >> JUST WANT TO KNOW FULLY  UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT  85 MILLION CONSISTENT AND HAVE  THAT THANK YOU.  >> I GET AND THE PONY UP FOR  WHAT YOU SAID THE ONE 22 IS  THE ONE 22 THE PROJECT UNDER  22 MINUTES AUTHORIZATION 0.1  3.85 BECAUSE. IN THE ORIGINAL.  CROUCH TO THE TRANSACTION.  STAFF WAS LOOKING 50 SHOULD  TAX 35 MILLAGE RATE INCREASE  THE OTHER TO BE MADE UP FROM  VARIOUS FUNDING BUCKETS, THE  REALITY IS JUST WHAT YOU SAID.  YOU KNOW A 100 MILLION DOLLAR.  THAT COMMITMENT HERE BECAUSE  WE CAN ALWAYS PAY IT DOWN WE  CAN ALWAYS USE ALTERNATIVE  FUNDING SOURCES TO MITIGATE  THAT NUMBER AND BRING IT DOWN  85 REALLY IS A NUMBER THAT  JUST DOESN'T EXIST I YEAH FROM  THE STANDPOINT OVER ORIGINALLY  LOOKING AT HOW YOU WALK YOUR  WAY TO 122 AND IT WAS 1535  POINT YES, YOU'RE RIGHT ON  IT'S IT'S A 100 MILLION DOLLAR  MAYBE A 122.  >> BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THIS  SLIDE. IT SAYS BASE CASE  85 MILLION ALTERNATE CASE ONE  22 THE COMMISSION DIRECTED THE  ONE 22 SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND  WHY IS THAT CONSIDERED ALTON  AGAIN THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WHAT  REQUESTED THAT HE INCLUDING SO  WE WERE TRYING TO RAMP UP TO  BE ABLE TO COME INTO THE  REVENUE THAT IS GOING TO TAKE  TO SUPPORT THOSE BONDS AND WE  WERE JUST HAVING A HARD TIME  GETTING TO THE 85. THAT'S WHY  WE WERE DISCUSSING THAT TO GET  WE GOT TO THINKING ABOUT WHAT  REVENUE IS SUPPORTING THAT  LEVEL THAT PAYMENT. SO WE  IDENTIFIED 50 MILLION IN  SURTAX 35 IN A POTENTIAL  CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT. MILEAGE  AND THAT ALREADY IS DIFFICULT  TO. COMMIT TO DOING THAT SO WE  HAD TAKEN THAT ANY FURTHER.  COMMISSIONER LANGDON.  >> I FORGET WHAT KNEW I HAD  THIS CONVERSATION I THINK WE  HAD IT IN ONE OF OUR MEETINGS  HERE BUT MY UNDERSTANDING WAS  ABOUT 20 22 MILLION DOLLARS OF  THE PROJECT WAS EQUIPPING THE  INTERNALS OF THE BUILDING. AND  I THINK IT'S A BOARD WE TALKED  ABOUT NOT WANTING TO KICK THAT  CAN DOWN THE ROAD FOR A FUTURE  COMMISSION TO HAVE TO WORRY  ABOUT COVERING A.  >> HOW DAD AND MOM IT.  >> HOW WE STRUCTURE THE DEATH.  BECAUSE AGAIN WHEN WE BUILT WE  NEED TO HAVE ALL THE BUILDING  COSTS ACCOUNTED FOR BEFORE WE  BREAK GROUND. 20 25 MILLION AT  THE VERY BACK AND AFTER  BUILDING IS COMPLETED. SO I  ONLY BRING THAT UP IT IT. AND  WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT THE  NUMBERS BUT MAYBE THAT PART OF  THE DEBT SHOULD BE PULLED OUT.  AND CONSIDER FINANCING AT A  DIFFERENT WAY. JUST JUST A  THOUGHT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE  TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT BEFORE WE  BREAK GROUND ARE DOING.  >> YOU KNOW BEFORE WE SOLICIT  CONSTRUCTION OF A 122 MILLION  DOLLAR FACILITY WE HAVE TO  HAVE FUNDING IM PLACE BUDGET.  RIGHT NOW SAYING AND THINK SO  WE HAVE TO LEGIT ALL OF IT MY  UNDERSTANDING FROM THE PD THAT  IT WAS A 100 MILLION NUMBER IT  WOULD BE THE SCALE DOWN WITH  >> DOUBT 100 MILLION MAY SAYS  IN 2 PLACES ONE BECAUSE  TALKING COFFEE ONE 22 WAS GET  ON A DIFFERENT WAY TO PAY FOR  THAT ONE IT OUT OF HERE  OPERATING ON BALANCE IF WE  WERE TRYING TO MINIMIZE THE  AMOUNT THE UNLIKE THE DIRECTOR  SAID CAN BE FORWARDED MODEL  WHICH INCLUDES 85 MILLION FOR  15 FOR A INNING THE VALUE OF  JOINT 85 MILLION UP THERE  SHOWS YOU THAT PLAN ON USING  IT START 35 MILLION EACH  CORRECT IF YOU CHANGE THAT 85  222 KNOW IT AND 37 MILLION  HOMETOWN HARRY YOU COULD  DOUBLE THE AMOUNT DOES IT  IMPACT IF YOU GO IN THAT MALL,  YOU BORROW THAT LOT. NOW A  HOME BE. ALL RIGHT ABOUT ALL  $100.50 $1 AND THAT GOT THANK  YOU.  >> I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT.  BASE CASE WITH SAYING  85 MILLION ARE 122 MILLION  THAT IS NOT FIGURING IN THE  SURTAX THAT.  >> AND THIS IS A 5 MILLION  THAT WOULD BE IT JUST SHOWS  THE AMOUNT MONEY GOES TO IT.  TELL YOU HOW YOU COOK, NOT IN  THE  >> IS STAFF RECOMMEND IN THE  HUNT INCLUDE 2 WE DON'T HAVE  ANY MORE RECOMMENDATION OF THE  15 MILLION. AND IF WE'RE NOT  GOING TO ALLOW FOR OF THE  ASSETS OR THINK STAFF TO DO  PROACTIVELY TO HELP THE  SITUATION. BORROW OTHER  72 MILLION DOLLARS GET YOU TO  WHAT DO.  >> OKAY SO I GUESS MY QUESTION  IS WHAT IT SAYS BASE CASE  85 MILLION RESULT IN ANNUAL  DEBT SERVICE OF 5.3 MILLION  85 MILLION.  >> INCLUDING NOT INCLUDING  THE.  >> 50 MILLION THAT WE WOULD  HOPE TO GET SURTAX SORT. I  DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THAT  THEY'VE BEEN IN THERE FOR  ANNUAL.  >> THE 85 IS THE 50 MILLION  DOLLARS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING  OF THE FUNDING SOURCES ARE  TAXED. IT ALSO INCLUDES  35 MILLION DOLLAR REFERENDUM  INCREASE MILITARY AT THE O'S  GOT TO APPROVE THAT'S  85 MILLION HAS DISCUSSED.  >> RIGHT BUT WHAT WE WOULD BE  PAYING DEBT SERVICE ON SURTAX  MONEY I COULD.  >> I I'M CONFUSED OR USE THAT  YOU STILL HAVE THE BALL ON THE  GONE SO ALL PROPERTY TAX.  >> GOT IT OKAY ALL RIGHT  COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL.  >> YEAH, JUST JUST TO CLEAR  HERE THE 100 MILLION. WHICH  WOULD TAKE US GROWS TO 2015 IS  THE 85 MILLION FOR  CONSTRUCTION. AND THEN  15 MILLION FUNNY.  >> A 100 MILLION MODEL THAT  TAKES YOU TO TWEET THAT IS IF  A TOTAL.  >> OKAY SO IT AS A COMMISSION  DIRECTED TO GO TO THE ONE  22 MILLION MODEL. WHAT IS THE  CONSTRUCTION COST ON THAT AND  THEN THE FFA NEED FOR  CONSTRUCTION ON THAT MODEL  100 MILLION DOLLARS. YEAH  FUNNY IS 22. AND JUST FOR  CLARITY THAT YOU WANT TO SAY  WHAT THAT MEANS THAT THAT'S  NEWS FIXTURES FURNITURE AND  EQUIPMENT SO PEOPLE KNOW THANK  YOU THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR  THAT MAYOR BECAUSE YES WE'RE  FAMILIAR I. ANYTHING ELSE  COMMISSIONER JUST AS A QUICK  FOLLOW-UP AT ANY PICTURES  FURNITURE AND EQUIPMENT CAN'T.  I COMMISSIONER LANGDON WAS  ALLUDING TO THAT CAN BE PAID  IN A DIFFERENT MANNER AS  OPPOSED TO BONDING BECAUSE  WE'RE LIKE 3 TO 5 YEARS AWAY  FROM. I MEAN DO YOU ANY IDEAS  HOW THAT WOULD BE PAID FOR IF  WE DID NOT GO TO BOND INCLUDED  IN BONN.  >> DON'T HAVE 22 MILLION SET  ASIDE ANYWHERE IN OUR CIP I  KNOW WE WE DON'T OKAY SO WE  HAVE TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.  VICE MAYOR. OKAY SO.  >> TO THE MEAT OF THAT SINCE  WE'RE BASICALLY LOOKING AT A  122 MILLION DOLLARS FINANCING.  REGARDLESS OF THE. THE  STRUCTURE, WHETHER IT JOB ON  GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND  WHETHER IT BE A LEASE PURCHASE  REALITY IS.  >> WE'D BE LOOKING TO BORROW  122 MILLION DOLLARS. TO BE  FUNDED. AND. HERE'S WHERE WE  GO. KNOWING WHAT YOU KNOW.  VARIOUS FUNDING BUCKETS, WE  HAVE OUR PRIORITIES STATION  SEEMS TO BE AND AGAIN I DON'T  SPEAK FOR MY FELLOW  COMMISSIONERS. SURTAX.  POTENTIAL GRANT MONIES. FUND  BALANCE THAT MAY OR MAY NOT  EXIST. IMPACT FEES WHICH ARE  NEGLIGIBLE GENERAL FUND BUT  WHICH CAN GROW OVER THE YEARS.  IN A GEO ON. CITY IS PLEDGING  GOOD FAITH FINANCIAL. WHERE  WERE FULL. IS REALISTIC. TO BE  ABLE. ON THAT 122 MILLION  DOLLARS. KNOWING FULL. WELL  THAT. IF WE WERE TO. FROM  THOSE FUNDING BUCKETS IN THE  PRIORITY AS SOUTHWEST KNOWING  THAT. OVER THE 15 YEARS  SURTAX. IF THAT WERE THE FIRST  AWAY AFTER. FIRST 5 YEARS OR  LITTLE LEAN. SECOND 5 IN 35  LITTLE MORE ROBUST. IS IT  REALISTIC TO EXPECT THAT WE  COULD. FINANCE OR WAY THROUGH.  A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THE  FIRST 10 TO 15 YEARS.  UTILIZING SURTAX ASSUMING  ASSUMING. WE WERE ABLE TO  REACH BEYOND 50 MILLION WHICH.  WHICH WAS PREDICATED ON PRICE  WHITENING TOO. AND IF THERE  WERE ADDITIONAL SHOULD TAX  PROJECTS. COULD BE  REPRIORITIZE. APPROACHING 70  80 MILLION. APPRECIATING THAT  WE'D BE OUT THERE LOOKING FOR  BOMB ON THE SALE OF ASSETS  WHATEVER OTHER FUNDING BUCKETS  COULD WE. FUND OR WASTE THE  BULK OF 15 YEARS. WHICH GETS  US TO POTENTIALLY SURE TAX 5.  WHICH COULD ALLOCATE FUNDS  GOING FORWARD FOR THE POUCH  AND 30 YEAR AMORTIZATION YOU  SEE WHERE HEADED WITH THIS  BECAUSE ULTIMATELY IF IT IS  THE INTENTION OF BOARD OF THE  COMMISSION. TO RAISE PROPERTY  TAXES AS ABSOLUTELY LAST  RESORT.  EVERYTHING WE CAN DO. SOURCE  FUNDING BUCKETS. OVER 30  YEARS, I MEAN IF 10 YEARS FROM  FOR 12 YEARS FROM NOW AS WE  COME TO THE END OF THAT. SO  FOR TURNER. WE NEED TO LOOK  TOWARDS PROPERTY TAXES. OUR  CITIES TAX BASE WITH THE GREAT  ARE NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL AS  WELL AS COMMERCIAL PROPERTY  TAXPAYERS WOULD GROW.  EXPONENTIALLY AND HELP SPREAD  THAT BIRD AND AND I WOULD  THINK THAT WOULD THE DIRECTION  WE WANT TO GO IS TO WE'LL  WE'LL STICK APPROACH TO HOW TO  DO THIS.  >> I MEAN IT IS.  >> I'VE GOT THE EASY JOB  >> I JUST THESE PROJECTS OFTEN  PLEDGING 3% 6 AND A HALF  MILLION. SO PROBLEM THAT ONE  HAS A STAFF OFF ABOUT  AFFORDABILITY AND APPROACH IT  REALLY. OUR ROLE IS TO TAKE  ALL COME BACK.  >> THAT'S DISTINCTION BETWEEN  GEO AND ITS ABILITY TO TO BE  USED. IF THERE IS A REFERENDUM  APPROVAL, YOU KNOW.  >> THAT THAT'S SPECIFIC TO  THAT AND THAT'S KIND OFF TO  THE SIDE SO SO THERE ARE SO  THE STATIONS BETWEEN HOW A  SURTAX YOU HOW DID YOU. BUT  IS. BUT CERTAINLY THERE'S IS A  LOT  ♪ OF ROOM FOR GROWTH SURTAX CITY  SEEN A LOT OF GROWTH IN  REVENUES.  >> TO THE EXTENT THERE'S BACKS  THAT ARE USED  >> THOSE SORT OF REDUCE THE  TOTAL GROWTH THAT'S AVAILABLE  FOR SEPTA FOR THOSE PROJECTS  BACK INTO THE 10 PLAN OR  WHATEVER THE PLANNING OR IS TO  BE SEEN.  >> BECAUSE HAVE LOOK AT  BECAUSE AGAIN SURTAX FOR  WHAT'S OUT 4 REFERENDUM. THE  PROJECTION FOR THE CITY  OF NORTH PORT WAS ROUGHLY  350 MILLION DOLLARS. MOST  RECENTLY I HAVE HEARD FROM KIM  AND ONE OF 4 PREVIOUS MEETINGS  THAT MORE RECENT ANALYSIS I'D  ALMOST CALL IT A GUESSTIMATE  BECAUSE AGAIN PREDICATED  GROWTH AND IN A LOT. SOME  POSITION NEVERTHELESS AND THEN  TO CADE. IT'S MORE LIKE FROM  100 SAID MILLION. SO THERE MAY  BE AS MUCH AS 60 MILLION  DOLLARS ADDITIONAL SURTAX  REVENUES AVAILABLE TO THE  CITY. OVER THE COURSE OF THE  15 YEARS. YOU CAN'T TAKE IT TO  BANK YET BUT POTENTIALLY HAVE  YOU LOOKED AT THAT AND AND.  HOW WE PARTS THOSE TYPES OF  PROJECTIONS AND THE REASON ASK  IS BECAUSE THERE'S THE PARTY  SITTING IN THIS AUDIENCE HERE  WHO GOING TO IMPACTED. TO THE  DEGREE. WE LEAN HEAVILY ON  CERTAIN TAX DOLLARS BECAUSE  EVERY DEPARTMENT HAS IMPORTANT  PROJECTS THAT NEED FUNDING  THAT COME FROM THIS SO SO YOU  KNOW I DON'T MEAN TO BE  INSENSITIVE OR OR INDIFFERENT  TO THOSE NEEDS AND AND  WONDERING HOW MUCH BREATHING  ROOM THERE IS THERE FOR  FLEXIBILITY.  >> IS LIKE YOU WE THAT THE  6 MILLION OVER THE NUMBERS  THAT YOU BUDDY. A LOT OF  PROJECTS IS ALREADY.  >> COUNTING THE FACT THAT YES  AND WE WORLD 4. WHAT WAS THE  WIFE ONE OF YOU HAVE GAVE US  ONE 22 DIRECTION. WHAT WE WAS  YOU 35 ALL THAT REALLY ABLE TO  IDENTIFY IMPORTANT SOURCES OF  85 MILLION DOLLARS. THAT WAY  FORCING FOOD SALES TO THE  PROPERTY FULL. ONLY PURPOSE  FOR THE CREW POLICE STATION  EITHER ONLY WORKS NOW THIS IT  TO THE 15 WITH GOT TO THE  POINT. ORDER TO CLOSE THE GAP.  122. THE ARE REFERRING A  FACTORS THAT INCREASE 39 57,  GOT US TO. THE ABSOLUTE WE'RE  LOOKING THAT 35 WHEN WE  THOUGHT THAT WAS HARSH. IT NOT  TO ENSURE FINANCIAL SOLUTIONS.  I WOULDN'T WANT IT YOU'RE MORE  POLICE THERE. SO WE'VE  EXPLAINED YOU'LL HOW WE GOT  HERE ONE THING TALK ABOUT THE  $100 QUICKLY TRAP. TALKED  ABOUT YOU CAN GET NOT A LOT OF  SO THAT SEARCHED FOR THAT  INCLUDES YET THAT OR YOU CAN  USE THAT SAME CRITICALLY AND  DOLLARS ONE 0.2 THAT WE FIGURE  OUT WHAT 22.  >> I DON'T THINK ANYTHING TO  DO WHAT QUESTION WAS MY  QUESTION WAS THAT. THERE  POTENTIALLY IS. ANOTHER  16 MILLION ADDITIONAL. SIR TAX  REVENUE THAT MIGHT COME IN  OVER THE WORST. 15 YEARS, SO  I'M WONDERING LIKE. WHERE THAT  TRANSLATES I MEAN IF ALL OF A  SUDDEN YOU KNOW IF IF YOU  DIVIDE 10350 MILLION BY 15  SLIGHT. 18 MILLION A YEAR. WE  KNOW SAY 7 MILLION STUDY TEAM  IS GOING PRICE WINDING ONE.  DEDICATED SO WE ONLY HAVE I'M  JUST PICKING A NUMBER. WHAT  I'M TRYING TO SAY IS THAT IF  OVER THE COURSE OF THE 15  YEARS OR SO ARE 16 MILLION  DOLLARS MORE HOUSE FACTORED  IN.  >> SHE'S GOING TO BE MORE  DETAILS ABOUT INFLATION.  THAT'S TO THE CALCULATIONS  TIME. IT'S NOT FROM THE WAR  WHAT BUT WAS PROTECTED GIVEN  TO US BASED WHAT ARE ABOUT TO  SORRY IS THE NUMBER YOU'RE  GOING TO SEE AS IT RELATES TO  THAT YOU HAVE SHE SAID THAT TO  YOU BECAUSE GEORGE PUT IT IN  THERE SHOW YOU THAT WE ARE  ALREADY WE'RE LIVE NUMBERS GOT  LOW TO BEGIN WITH. YOU KNOW  THAT YOU LOOK AT LOOKING AT  NOW CLUE EXTRA DOLLARS. WE  BELIEVE WE BOTH A  >> AND THAT'S 60 MILLION IS  THE LEVEL WE'RE COMFORTABLE  RIGHT NOW PROJECTING AND WE'RE  KEEP IN MIND. IT'S A 15 YEAR  PERIOD. THERE'S A LOT OF YOU  KNOW THINGS THAT WILL HAPPEN  DURING THAT TIME FRAME. BUT  WITH BASED ON THE GROWTH AND  WHAT WE'VE AND SEEING IN  SURTAX AS HOW PROJECTED THAT  AND THAT'S. AS HIGH  COMFORTABLE PROJECTING THAT 15  YEAR PERIOD. WITHOUT.  >> REACHING INTO ADDITIONAL  SURTAX PROJECTS. OK.  COMMISSIONER DOW.  >> I THE QUESTION. WHAT IS  OBJECT WHAT WHAT HAVE WE  RECEIVED IN SURTAX  YEAR-TO-DATE. WHERE THIS YEAR.  AND I WAS TOLD RECEIVED  APPROXIMATELY MILLION DOLLARS.  AND GOING ON THE U.S.. WELL  SORRY.  >> WHEN I HAD ASKED FOR THE  YEAR-TO-DATE THAT WE RECEIVED  I WAS TOLD BASICALLY WAS 6.8  MILLION DOLLARS. AND THAT'S AS  OF MARCH, 28. THIS YEAR. I'M  GOING ON THE ASSUMPTION THAT'S  FOR 6 PERIOD. THANK YOU THAT'S  WHAT I WANTED GET  CLARIFICATION ON.  >> YES, WE ARE MONTHS BEHIND  RECEIVING THE PAYMENT SO WE  HAVE RECEIVED A SIX-MONTH WE  ALSO RECEIVE A QUARTERLY  PAYMENT WHICH IS ONLY ABOUT A  3RD OF WHAT THE THE MONTHLY  PAYMENT IS SO WE HAVE NOT  RECEIVED THAT 2ND QUARTER  PAYMENT YET EITHER. YES WHEN  YOU ASKED THAT QUESTION I  LOOKED AGAIN TRYING TO SEE HOW  WE ARE ON THIS YEAR AND IT'S  GOING TO GO UP DURING THE  SUMMER IT ALWAYS DOES. SO I'M  STILL THINKING WE'RE STILL  GOING TO BE ON TRACK TO GET  THE REVENUE THAT WAS SUPPOSED  TO GET THIS YEAR. YES, IT'S  LESS THAN 6% RIGHT NOW, BUT WE  WE STILL HAVE 2 MINUTES TO GET  TO GET US TO HAPPEN, THAT'S  WHAT I WAS GOING WITH THAT YES  EVERYBODY SAY MORE MONEY IS  COMING IN AND SAYING OH NO, NO  THAT IS NOT A HURRICANE YET.  >> SO THE 6.8 MILLION IS  BASICALLY I. PAYMENTS RECEIVED  TO DATE I'VE MONTHLY PAYMENTS  AND ONE OF THE 4TH QUARTER.  >> WE'LL GET 12 MONTHLY  PAYMENTS ONLY WHEN THE YEARS.  >> AND JUST FOR EVERYBODY'S.  >> UNDERSTANDING WE GET PAID  MONTHLY BASED ON PROJECTIONS  AND THEN WE SQUARE UP EVERY  QUARTER FOR WHAT ACTUALLY WAS  RECEIVED. THAT'S WHAT  EXPLAINED TO ME IN THE PAST IS  THAT STILL THERE. AND  COMMISSIONER LANGDON THANK YOU  AGAIN MIGHT WANT TO HAVE THIS  DISCUSSION A LITTLE LATER BUT  SEVERAL TIMES ALREADY WE  REFERENCED WHERE WE'RE AT IN  THE PROCESS WHICH IS SORT OF  THE POLICY THE GOALS AND  OBJECTIVES OF THAT'S.  >> AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WHEN  DISCUSS THAT SO AS WE WERE  JUST SORT JOTTED DOWN FROM A  PRIORITY NUMBER ONE WOULD BE  MINIMIZING IMPACT TOO. CITY  TAXPAYERS. OUR OBJECTIVE  NUMBER 2 WOULD BE TO ENSURE  THAT NO TRULY ESSENTIAL  PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE IN THE  QUEUE TO BE FUNDED IN THE  FUTURE BY A SURTAX ARE  JEOPARDIZED. AND SO I I THINK  IF THERE IS AGREEMENT ON THOSE  2 THINGS THEN I WOULD  RECOMMEND WE CONSIDER.  >> THE BEST.  >> FUNDING BY THAT I MEAN ARE  WE GOING A 100 MILLION ARE WE  GOING 122 MILLION WHICH MODEL.  >> PUTS US IN THE BEST  POSITION TO ACCOMPLISH AND  THEN WHICH DEBT FINANCING  OPTION ACCOMPLISHES THOSE 2  OBJECTIVES MOST EFFECTIVELY.  AND WOULD JUST THROW OUT THAT  IN MY EXPERIENCE, IT'S ALWAYS  A BALANCE  ♪ ♪ AND SO. PART OF ME WANTS TO  SAY I DON'T WANT HAVE ANY  MILLAGE RATE INCRE CREATES FOR  THIS PROJECT BUT THEN THAT  PUTS AN INCREDIBLE BURDEN ON  OTHER FINANCING OPTIONS AND  AND SO I'M JUST SORT OF  THINKING THAT THE THE WHOLE  THING NEEDS TO BE BALANCED.  AND THESE OBJECTIVES AND MY  MIND REALLY DICTATE HOW MUCH  WE WANT TO BORROW AND YOU KNOW  AS THE PROJECT 100 MILLION  ISN'T 122 MILLION AND AND I  KNOW THIS COMMISSION OPTED FOR  THE 122. WE'VE GOT TO BALANCE  A LOT THINGS SO ANYWAY, JUST  WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT I  DON'T KNOW IF IT'S PREMATURE  WE WERE GOING TO TALK ABOUT  THAT AT THE END BUT. I JUST  THINK WE NEED TO BE CLEAR ON  WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO  ACCOMPLISH. I MEAN WE DON'T  DELTA. A NEW POLICE  HEADQUARTERS BUT WHAT ARE WE  TRYING TO ACHIEVE IN THE  FUNDING, WHAT RISKS WE WANT TO  MITIGATE AND WHAT TO WE WANT  TO ACHIEVE.  >> AND THAT'S A GOOD POINT AND  MAYBE THAT WOULD BE A MOTION  ONE OF MOTION TO MAKE OR WE  AND WE DO THAT AT THIS MEETING  I'M NOT REALLY SURE BUT YET  ORIGINALLY WEEKS AT A 122 AND  NOW IT'S A 100 MILLION FOR THE  BUILDING AND 22 FOR THE SAID  ABOUT A 100 MILLION DOLLAR  BUILDING THAT LOOKING  FOR FUN HOW TO FINANCE THAT  BUILDING.  >> IS THAT WHAT 5 YOUR MODEL  VERSUS THE 40 HAS REALLY WHAT  I'M GETTING OKAY. ALRIGHT JUST  TO. SO CLARIFY THAT BECAUSE  YOU'RE RIGHT THE CAPE.  >> GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH  THAT.  >> I MEAN I FEEL PRETTY  COMFORTABLE WE HAVE OUR FINGER  IS ON THE MONEY TO GET TO A  100. A BOY 22 MILLION IS A BIG  BIG DELTA TO TRY TO COVER.  WITH WHAT WE KNOW WE CAN DO  RIGHT, OKAY. QUESTION IT.  >> RECOGNIZING THAT THERE  SERIES FUNDING POCKETS NO ONE  BUCKET IS SUFFICIENT FUND THIS  ENTIRE PROJECT OBVIOUSLY AND  THERE ARE SOME I ALREADY  STATIONS TO THOSE BUCKETS IS  NECESSARY. IF IT'S LET'S JUST  PICK UP GENERAL OBLIGATION  BOND APPROACH IS IT NECESSARY  OR REALLY FOR COUPLE OF  APPROACHES. HAD FINANCIALLY  STRUCTURE THIS IS IT  NECESSARY. CURRENTLY. STAR  CITIZENS IN A REFERENDUM.  THERESA MILITARY. OR IS THAT  SOMETHING THAT COULD BE.  DEFERRED. QUITE FRANKLY. I  PERFECTLY BLUNT. CITY  LEADERSHIP 10 INCREASE THE  MILLAGE RATE IF NEEDS TO  INCREASE MILITARY TO ITS  OBLIGATIONS OPERATE. IT'S  IMPOSSIBLE TO DO THE BOND  REFERENDUM. RECOGNIZING THERE  ARE MULTITUDE OF SOURCES HERE  HELP FUND AND. NOT HAVE TO THE  CITIZENS IN THIS ON OR ANY  TYPE OF REFERENDUM TO GIVE  THEMSELVES A PROPERTY TAX  INCREASE THAT'S WHERE MY  QUESTION IF IF THAT WOULD BE 5  YEARS 10 YEARS 15 YEARS 20  YEARS OR EVEN 30 YEARS OUT  LIKE THAT MAKE ME AND PROBABLY  THE LOT MORE COMFORTABLE.  >> THAT AND SAYING HEY WE WANT  FUND THIS 122 MILLION DOLLAR  PROJECT THAT'S GOING TO COST  ALMOST TWICE THAT WOULD  INTEREST BY THE WAY LIKE WE  WANT YOU TO TAXES BY ANYWHERE  FROM 8 TO 15 HURT. 20% WHICH  IS REALLY THE REALITY OF SO I  MEAN IS IS THAT IT RELEASE  COMING CAN YOU DO THAT I MEAN  DO YOU HAVE TO. PROPERTY TAXES  TO PUT THIS TRANSACTION  TOGETHER. KNOWING FULL. WELL  THAT YOU DON'T HAVE EVERY  DOLLAR COUNT FOR BUT THERE'S A  FOR WRITING FUNDING  APPROACHES.  >> BUT THAT'S CERTAINLY BEEN  PART OF THE PLANET AND  STRUCTURE I THINK THERE'S  RESTRICTIONS ON THE CHARTER  FOR HOW YOU GET AUTHORIZATION  TO ISSUE DEBT AND WHICH  REVENUES CAN BE USED TO  SUPPORT YOU KNOW IN THE EVENT  THAT THERE IS A CHARTER  AMENDMENT AND YOU'RE DOWN THE  ROAD YOU MADE SOME CHANGES  WITH HOW YOU GET AUTHORIZATION  TO ISSUE THAT. YOU KNOW THE  ISSUE IS THAT ANY DEFERMENT OF  THAT. GO AHEAD. THIS IS THE  FIRST PROJECT.  >> BUT IT SHE'LL ON. IT'S  BASICALLY IT'S IT'S A GOOD  FAITH PLEDGE OF THE CITY'S  RESOURCES, ITS ASSETS AND ITS  REVENUES.  >> TO MEET OBLIGATION IT  TECHNICALLY SO THE DIFFERENCE  OF PUBLIC BUDGET APPROPRIATE.  I THINK IT IS I DESCRIBED THE  JOB ON SO. YET THE CITY'S FULL  FAITH IN CREDIT IS THE CUTS  BUDGET APPROPRIATE BECAUSE THE  CITY HAS REVENUES. CITIZENS  SUPPORTERS WITH THE G O  BECAUSE IT'S ON THEIR TAX WILL  THAT THEY'RE MAKING THE  PAYMENTS FOR A G O. IF A  REFERENDUM APPROVED FOR JOE  THAT'S THE ISSUE THAT'S THAT  WE PASSED THROUGH SOME MILEAGE  ON THAT ROUTE FOR PROPERTY  TAXES. IT'S NOT GOING.  NECESSARILY BE DRIVEN WHAT THE  CITY REVENUE. IT'S ACTUALLY  >> IT AND I THINK WHERE YOU'RE  GETTING TO IS HEY LET'S GO  AHEAD AND ISSUE THE DEBT FOR  THE PROJECT WE NEED TO BUILD  NOW AND THEN WE'LL HAVE MORE  REVENUES LATER TO PAY THAT  DEBT SERVICE. BUT LET ME  MENTION THE FOR THE 5 YEARS  THAT I'VE BEEN HERE ARE BOTH  ARE OPERATING EXPENDITURES AND  OUR PERSONNEL EXPENDITURES  HAVE BEEN KEEPING PACE WITH  THE REVENANT MEANING. WE  SHOULDN'T BE PREDICTING THAT  WE'RE ALL THE SUDDEN GOING TO  HAVE A POT OF MONEY IN 5 YEARS  TO BE ABLE TO PAY THAT DEBT  SERVICE BECAUSE IN 5 YEARS  WOULD HAVE MORE POLICE WE'RE  GOING TO HAVE MORE  FIREFIGHTERS WERE GOING TO  HAVE MORE OF ALL OF THE TEAM  THAT SUPPORTS THEM. SO AGAIN  WHAT I'VE SEEN IS OUR  EXPENDITURES KEEPING PACE WITH  THE REVENUES. I KNOW THERE'S A  LOT OF PROJECTIONS FOR  EXPANSIVE WHEN WE GET TO THE  POINT THAT WE'RE SEEING THAT  AND WE'RE ABLE TO RECOGNIZE  REVENUE MUCH HIGHER THAN THE  EXPENDITURES WE HAVE TO MAKE  TO KEEP UP AND KEEP SUPPORTING  THE SAME SERVICES AND THAT  LARGER POPULATION AND MAYBE  YOU CAN MAKE SOME PROJECTIONS  LIKE THAT RIGHT NOW. WE'RE NOT  PROJECT PREDICTING IN 5 YEARS  WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE THIS  FULL OF MONEY THAT WE'RE NOT  GOING TO NEED TO CONTINUE TO  SUPPORT THE SERVICES THAT  FINDING IS THAT WE TO KEEP IN  MIND TO VICE MAYOR AND ALL OF  US AS WE'RE REALLY BEEN SAVED  BY.  >> THE RAPID INCREASE IN  PROPERTY VALUES AND WE CANNOT  ASSUME THAT IS GOING TO  CONTINUE. YES. BUT WHAT I'M  ASKING IS IS IT NECESSARY. TO  RAISE THE MILLAGE RATE TO DO  THIS PROJECT NOW. WE HAVE TO  DO IT NOW.  >> DO IT NEXT YEAR COULD DO  RAFT COULD DO TO 3RD YEAR  AFTER THAT IS IT NECESSARY TO  RAISE PROPERTY TAXES. TO  CONSUMMATE THIS TRANSACTION.  THAT'S THAT'S REALLY MY  QUESTION.  >> FROM A FINANCIAL  STANDPOINT.  >> IF YOU HAD THE  AUTHORIZATION ISSUE A BASED ON  THE SURTAX. YOU WOULD HAVE TO  PASS PROMOTE FROM A PURE  FINANCIAL CAPACITY, IT MEANS  OUR PROJECTS ARE GETTING OF  AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT PART  STATION IS MOST PROJECTS BUT.  DOES YOUR 15 YEARS OF 6 AND A  HALF TO GROSS WOULD THAT BE  SUFFICIENT TO FUND THE  PROJECT. YES, WAKE THAT.  >> RATE INCREASE ON THE BALLOT  THIS NOVEMBER, HE GOES INTO  EFFECT. NOVEMBER, IT PASSES.  YOU GO WITH IT, 25 PUT THE  QUESTION WHAT QUESTION I THINK  THE QUESTION IS COULD YOU WAIT  A YEAR LIGHTS. THEY SAY LET'S  GO FOR THE PROJECT IS THEN  GOING ON THIS NOVEMBER IT  GOING TO OCCUR. WE MOVE THE  PROJECT FORWARD VOTE ON IT.  THE FOLLOWING JUST TO  >> LET'S LISTEN TO A PROJECT  THAT I DON'T HAVE FUNDING FOR.  >> HONESTLY WE DO KNOW KNOW  WHAT WHAT I'M MOVING TOWARD  SAYS IS STAY ELEPHANT IN THE  ROOM CONVERSATION OVER SURTAX  AND PROJECTS SO IF THERE WERE.  85 MILLION DOLLARS. WORTH OF  SHOULD TAX PROJECTS INCLUSIVE  A PRICE. PHASE 2. OKAY. IF  THERE WERE 85 MILLION DOLLARS  WORTH SURTAX 15 YEARS. WE HAVE  TO. SMALL TRACE.  >> YOU BUILD AN 85 BUILD.  >> WHAT'S THE INTEREST IN COTE  SO MAYBE IF THERE WAS A I I  HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND  THEN AND I'M NOT EVEN SAYING  THERE'S 85 BILLION DOLLARS TAX  REVENUE THAT'S THE THING WATCH  THAT REALLY THE CONVERSATION  THAT BECAUSE THAT WILL DIDN'T  PAY. WHERE WE ARE WITH THIS  AND AND THE QUESTION OF WATCH  FOR SAYS NEEDS WHY EVERYBODY  SITTING IN THIS WORLD, OKAY,  ONLY A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE  ARE LISTENING SO WAYNE IT  BECAUSE COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS  AND AND THEN I'M HOPING WE  MOVED TO THAT BECAUSE THAT IS  THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM THAT  WE HAVE TO DISCUSS TODAY  BECAUSE WE CANNOT FORWARD ON  THIS PROJECT UNTIL WE BUY  DOUBLE IT AND FIGURE OUT HOW  MUCH OR WILL THE PULITZER TAX  AND IN THE FALL WANTS VERSUS  NEEDS THAT'S THE STRETCH IN  THIS EQUATION YOU GOTTA WE DO  WITH PRIORITIZING THE LESS WE  NEED TO RELY ON  >> BECAUSE A LOT IMPACT SCOPE  OF THIS PROJECT. SHE YEAH.  >> YEAH, I  >> I HEAR WHAT MY FELLOW  COMMISSIONERS ARE SAYING, BUT  I'M IN NO POSITION TO BE  TALKING ABOUT SURTAX IN  MILITARY UNTIL WE GET THROUGH  THIS POWER POINT PRESENTATION  WE GET BACK ON TO THAT AND  THEN CONTINUE WITH THE  CONVERSATION ON MILEAGE SURTAX  >> THAT. AND I JUST WANT TO  RECOGNIZE FORMER COMMISSIONER  TOM JONES ENTERED THE CHAMBERS  AND TO SAY. ALL  >> WITH THAT DIRECTION. I'M  NOT SURE THERE'S A LOT OF MAY  GO TIMELINES AND THINGS LIKE  THAT THAT WILL COME EXACTLY  HAS TO COME A LOT JUMPED ON  IT. YOU THIS POINT. THANK YOU  FOR. HEAR SO IT'S ALRIGHT YOU  TRANSACTION TIMELINE FOR THE  YOU OR YOU KNOW THROUGH  >> I GUESS THAT CONCLUDES THE.  >> COMMISSIONER AND RICH DID  YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON  WHAT'S BEEN PRESENTED AS FAR.  NOT NOT.  >> LAST FAR BUT I'LL HAVE A  FEW QUESTIONS COME UP LATER.  OKAY GREAT YEAH, A LOT I WANT  TO KEEP THIS STORY TO GO INTO  WHERE WE GET TO THE FINANCES  AND STUFF AND THEN WHEN WE'RE  INTO TRYING TO NEGATE WHAT WE  WANTED THAT'S WHERE ALL MY  >> THAT SOUNDS THAT YEAH THANK  YOU I CHECKING OUR WHAT WE'RE  SUPPOSED TO BE DISCUSSING ON  THIS THAT'S A REVIEW AND  CONSIDERATION OF PROJECTS AND  THE AND ALL THAT SO. I  UNDERSTAND THAT GOOD  CONVERSATION THAT GOING TO  HOLD YOU GUYS. YOU GUYS ARE  DOING GREAT.  >> THANK COMMISSIONER, THANK I  ALWAYS FELL ASLEEP 3 SAYS  >> COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL YEAH,  JUST HAVE A QUESTION IN THIS  TIMELINE IT SAYS WEEK ONE AND  THEN IT STARTS WITH MARCH 4TH.  SO IS THIS SAME WERE ALREADY  BEHIND THE FOR WEEKS BEHIND  THIS WE WANT WHENEVER WE GIVE  THE FINAL POLICY.  >> DECISIONS THAT THIS WOULD  ONE I FULL FINANCING, OKAY  AREA AND WE WAS ACTUALLY  PROBABLY YOU KNOW SEVERAL  WEEKS AFTER DIRECTIONS GIVEN  BECAUSE YOU YOU WOULD TAKE  RECOMMENDATION AND IF WE NEED  TO DO ON RUSSELL'S PATIENT OR  OTHER THINGS SO WE WON'T BE  WHEN WE'RE READY YOU'RE ABOUT  4 MONTHS OUT FROM RECEIVING SO  IT'S JUST THAT IT TAKES 4  MONTHS DO DEAL WITH 3 MONTHS  TO DO A BANK CLOSED SCIENCES,  THE APPROVALS AND WHEN WE  WOULD COME BACK TO THE  DIRECTION.  >> OKAY, SO FOR MONTHS TO BOND  3 MONTHS TO A BANK NOTE.  >> ONCE WE GIVE FINAL POLICY  DECISION WE STILL HAVE TO TURN  TO CITY ATTORNEY FOR  REFERENDUM QUESTION  >> THAT'S THE ROUTE WE'RE  GOING. GET THAT OUT THERE SO  WE NEED TO PACK SUMMIT LEAD 2  MONTHS 3 MONTHS FOR THE CITY  ATTORNEY. THAT SOUND.  >> I THINK THAT DEPENDS ON  WHAT THE BOARD DECIDES TO DO  COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL BECAUSE  IT ULTIMATELY WE NEED TO ALL  OF ALLEGATIONS PROCEEDING. AND  THAT TIMING IS DRIVEN BY THE  COURT SYSTEM AND THERE'S  ONLINE. SO MUCH CONTROL WE  HAVE OVER OUT HOW QUICKLY THE  CITY MAKES ITS FINAL AND  THAT'S REALLY ONLY CONTROL WE  HAVE OVER THAT AND DEPENDING  ON HOW CONTENTIOUS THAT  PROCEEDING AS BUT ALSO IMPACT  THE COURT HOME.  >> SO THE VALIDATION  PROCEEDING THIS IS WHAT I'M  HEARING SO CORRECT ME  MISINTERPRETING IT VALIDATION  PROCEEDING PRIOR TO GOING TO  BOND REFERENDUM. IMPORTANT  AFTER BOND REFERENDUM.  >> SO IF YOU'RE JUST TALKING  ABOUT STREET BOND REFERENDUM.  YOU DON'T NEED TO VALIDATION  PROCEEDING, BUT IF YOU. IF YOU  END UP WITH THAT THE FINANCING  THAT IDENTIFIED THE WHERE WE  RECOMMEND A BOND VALIDATION  PROCEEDING. THEN YOU DO THE  BOND VALIDATION PROCEEDING IN  MORE THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND  HOW HOW LONG DID YOU SAY THAT  TOO.  >> BECAUSE AN ATTORNEY I  DIDN'T GIVE ME A STRAIGHT  ♪ ♪ >> SON'S WORK. I MEAN THERE'S  NOT A HARD AND FAST TIMELINE  ON THAT MY GUESS WOULD BE A  FEW MONTHS, IT'S IT'S NOT  GOING TO BE AS LIKELY AS YOU  KNOW SOME OF THE OTHER  PROCEEDINGS THAT THERE ARE  DIFFERENT WE'VE BEEN INVOLVED  IN THAT. WE KNOW HOW THE COURT  SYSTEM IS SO SMOOTH AND QUICK  >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND WE  STARTED DISCUSSING I DON'T  KNOW ABOUT ANYBODY ELSE REALLY  COULD USE A HEALTH GREAT  CONCERN WHICH IS ONLINE WE  WANT BREAK ALL THAT WE CAN OK  10 MINUTES BECAUSE THAT ALL  RIGHT 10 MINUTES.  >> CAUGHT.  WHY DO WE FLOOD.  >> DURING SIGNIFICANT RAIN  EVENTS PORT NEARLY ALWAYS  FLOODS IN CERTAIN AREAS OF THE  CITY. THIS IS THANKS TO THE  LOCALLY NAMED MYAKKA HACHI  CREEK ALSO KNOWN AS THE BIG  SLEW WATERSHED. THE 195 SQUARE  MILE DRAINAGE AREA FLOWS  THROUGH DESOTO MANATEE AND  SARASOTA COUNTIES.  >> THEN THROUGH OUR CITY TO  EXIT AT CHARLOTTE HARBOR. AS  THE CITY OF NORTH PORT IS  LOCATED AT THE LOW END OF THE  BIG SLEW WATERSHED DRAINAGE  SYSTEM. THE CITY'S CURRENT  FLOODING AND WATER QUALITY  CONDITIONS ARE ATTRIBUTED NOT  ONLY TO THE CITY'S GROWTH BUT  ALSO TO UPSTREAM RUNOFF IN THE  DESOTO MANATEE AND SARASOTA  COUNTY PORTIONS OF THE BIG  SLOW. DURING SIGNIFICANT RAIN  EVENTS PONDING CAN ALSO OCCUR  PONDING OCCURS AND LOW-LYING  AREAS THAT ARE CHARACTERIZED  BY POORLY DRAINED OR SUPER  SATURATED SOILS WITH  BACK-TO-BACK RAINFALL EVENTS  THE GROUND IS TOTALLY  SATURATED WHICH INCREASES THE  RUNOFF DURING A STORM. THE  CITY WORKS HARD TO MAINTAIN  ITS STORMWATER CONVEYANCE  SYSTEM WHICH IS COMPRISED OF  ROADSIDE SWALES DRAINING INTO  79 MILES OF NAMED WATERWAYS.  >> AND 132 MILES OF RETENTION  DITCHES THAT INTERCONNECT WITH  EACH OTHER AND WITH THE MYAKKA  HACHI CREEK. THERE ARE 64  WATER CONTROL STRUCTURES OF  WHICH 23 ARE GATED WATER  CONTROL STRUCTURES 5 ARE GATED  DROP STRUCTURES, 28 ARE FIXED.  WE'RE STRUCTURES AND 8 ARE  DROPPED STRUCTURES. THE  CONTROL ELEVATIONS OF THESE  STRUCTURES ARE DESIGNED SO  THAT WATER IS RETAINED IN THE  WATERWAYS AND A STEP-DOWN  ELEVATION SYSTEM  CONFIGURATION.  >> THIS MEANS THE WATER LEVELS  IN THE WATERWAY SEGMENTS  BETWEEN STRUCTURES  PROGRESSIVELY DECREASES  ELEVATION FROM NORTH TO SOUTH  AND FROM EAST TO WEST. THIS  SYSTEM CONFIGURATION ALLOWS  BOTH RETENTION OF STORM WATER  RUNOFF FOR WATER QUALITY  TREATMENT AND STORAGE FOR  POTABLE WATER USE IN  PREPARATION FOR A STORM, THE  GATES ARE OPENED AS NEEDED TO  CONVEY A FLOOD WATERS.  >> THE CITY HAS AN ONGOING  PROGRAM TO INSPECT AND REPLACE  OLD CORRODED STRUCTURES SINCE  2006 13 OF THE HIGH PRIORITIES  STRUCTURES HAVE BEEN REPLACED  OR REHABILITATED THE CITY ALSO  HAS A PROGRAM TO CLEAR THE  DITCHES OF SEDIMENT DEPOSITS  THAT HAVE ACCUMULATED OVER  TIME AND CLEAR FALLEN TREES  AND DEBRIS IN THE MYAKKA HACHI  CREEK. THIS ALSO HELPS RESTORE  THE FLOW CAPACITY OF THE  WATERWAYS.  >> MY STORY SHORT NORTH PORT  IS PRONE TO FLOODING, BUT THE  CITY WORKS HARD TO MAINTAIN  CAN VAN CHANNELS WATER CONTROL  STRUCTURES AND PROCEDURES PUT  IN PLACE TO LESSEN THE IMPACT.  WHEN THERE IS A HURRICANE OR  SIGNIFICANT RAIN EVENT. THE  CITY GETS INTO RESPONSE IN  RECOVERY MODE QUICKLY AFTER  PLEASE STAY SAFE OUT THERE.  >> OH MY GOSH.  ♪ >> EVERYONE MY NAME IS MARIO  OF NVIDIA I AM THE PLAN OR  SCHEDULE OR FOR THE CITY  OF NORTH PORT SOLID WASTE I  GOT INTO THIS POSITION. FIRST  I WAS RECYCLED DRIVER FOR 5  YEARS FOR THE AND THEN I  BECAME THE PLAN A SCHEDULE  AFTER TAKING AN INTEREST  EDUCATING RESIDENTS ON HOW TO  RECYCLE PROPERLY MY POSITION  MY DAY-TO-DAY USUALLY I START  OUT BY VISITING THE NEW  RESIDENTS THAT SCHEDULE  GARBAGE AND RECYCLING  CONTAINERS TO BE DELIVERED  AND.  >> I WILL GO SEE THEM AND  EDUCATE THEM ON A SOLID WASTE  GUIDELINES MORE LESS MORE  FOCUSED RECYCLE PART OF AFTER  I WILL DRIVE AROUND THE CITY  AND I ACTUALLY EXPECT CYCLE  CONTAINERS MANUALLY. FOR  CONTAMINATION.  ♪ AND THEN I WILL TAKE CALLS  FROM DRIVERS IF THERE'S  ♪ ANY ISSUES WITH A REPEAT.  GARBAGE IN RECYCLE AND I WILL  GO EDUCATE THE WHAT I LOVE  MOST ABOUT THE SAME NORFORK IS  THERE ARE RESIDENTS ARE FROM  OVER THE WORLD.  ♪ I GET TO LEARN ABOUT THE SOLID  WASTE GUIDELINES WHEN THEY  COME FROM AS WELL AS EDUCATE  THEM  ♪ ON THE CITY NORTH PORT'S  ALWAYS GUIDELINES HOW TO  RECYCLE PROPERLY.  >> BELIEVE THAT THE NATURAL  RESOURCES DEPARTMENT WILL BE  INTEGRAL PART FOR THE CITY'S  GROWTH IS WE WANT TO ACHIEVE A  MORE BALANCED.  >> A PRETTY 45 WE HAD OUR 10  WE GET BACK TO BUSINESS HERE  WE'RE GOING MOVE ON. HAVING  RECONSIDERATION OF PROJECTS IN  THE APPROVED 2024 2028 CAPITAL  IMPROVEMENT PLAN AND SURTAX.  >> FOR PROJECT LIST I GUESS WE  SHOULD START WITH THE C I  POINT WAS BROUGHT UP BY  COMMISSIONER LANGDON ABOUT ARE  WE LOOKING FOR A NUMBER OF A  100 MILLION ARE 102. TO  REFUNDING WHAT ARE WE FUNDING.  YEAH. SO.  ♪ THAT IT'S LIKE A SESSION NOT  SAME THING IT'S PRETTY WHAT IT  LOOKS LIKE A GOOD LOOK LIKE TO  GET TO WORK WITH TO  >> THE AT THE RECORD AND A  LOOK AT TRYING TO WHAT WE SAID  WAS THAT WE DON'T GET I BOUGHT  OTHER SELLING ANY OPTIONS, THE  FIRST WE WILL TALK ABOUT WHAT  YOU GET READY IS THE DEAL  YOU'LL SOMETHING WE HAVE ON  HAS BROUGHT YOU THE IF WE  WITHDREW BECAUSE STAKE NOW.  WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO SEE  THAT LIVE UP I THAT PROPOSE TO  YOU'RE TRYING TO FIND OTHER  FUNDING NOW IN A SURTAX THAT'S  WHY WE WE WERE STUCK  >> OKAY, I JUST WANTED TO BE  CLEAR BECAUSE COMMISSIONER  LANGDON BROUGHT UP THE POINT  OF WE'RE LOOKING FOR MONEY.  WHAT IS OUR GOAL WILL BE  LOOKING TO FIND.  >> ADDITIONAL 15 MILLION OR  WOULD IT LOOKING TO FIND  15 MILLION FOR THE GO AHEAD  COMMISSIONER VICE MAYOR  CHOMPING AT THE BIT THERE.  >> CITY MANAGER AT THE NAIL ON  THE HEAD. THAT'S UP. MY  OPINION THAT THE BEST APPROACH  ON A BIG TO LOOK AT. WHERE WE  THINK. MOVE THIS 85 UP. OKAY,  WE HAVE FROM SURTAX 35 FROM  POTENTIALLY PROPERTY TAX  INCREASE THAT WOULD TRADE  INCREASED. WE FALL AFTER GOING  THROUGH THIS PROCESS OF  IDENTIFYING. NEEDS VERSUS  WANTS AND HOW IF POSSIBLE YOU  CAN MOVE NEEDLE UP THAT 50 UP  WE'LL REACH A POINT WHERE.  WE'VE TAPPED OUT. AT THAT  POINT. WE'LL THEN BE ABLE TO  LOOK AT. WHAT'S REQUIRED FROM  MILLAGE RATE. HE WILL. EITHER  THAT WELL THE ONE 22 WHICH IS  WHAT THIS COMMISSION HAS  INDICATED IT WANTS TO LOOK AT.  WE MAY FIND THAT NOT TO BE  POWELL. WE MAY THAT THAT ASKS  FOR MILLAGE RATE INCREASE MAY  BE.  >> JULY 4 AND AND CERTAINLY  THE CITIZENS STATES AND SO  WE'LL HAVE TO REEVALUATE SIZE  SCOPE THIS PROJECT BUT ONLY  WAY THAT I KNOW START IS IS TO  ADDRESS. THESE PRODUCTS AND  YOU KNOW WE TALK SETTING  50 MILLION DOLLARS CITING  SUPREME FROM PRICE WIDENING  TOO AND AND. EVERYTHING ELSE  IS LIKE UP IN THE AIR AND AND  IF YOU GO THROUGH OR OLD THE  SURTAX PROJECTS. THERE  CERTAINLY A LOT WANTS. THERE  ARE ALSO NEEDS THE QUESTION  AND AND THE FLY IN THE  OINTMENT HERE IS BEING ABLE TO  IDENTIFY THE PRIORITIZATION  SOME OF THOSE NEEDS BECAUSE  EVERY ONE OF THE PRODUCT EVERY  ONE OF THE DEPARTMENTS. WE'RE  REPRESENTED 6 THAT ARE  IMPORTANT. THERE ARE IMPORTANT  FOR THEIR DEPARTMENTS AND FOR  BALANCE GROWTH OF OUR CITY AND  THEY CAN'T BE DISCOUNTED THEY  CAN'T JUST BE DISCARDED  BECAUSE WE'RE MAKING POINTS  ABOUT HOW TO FINANCE POLICE  HEADQUARTERS AND SO I WOULDN'T  WANT ANYBODY OUT HERE JUST  THINK THAT THAT THERE'S A  CALLOUSNESS CERTAINLY NOT ON  MY PART AND I WOULD THINK  CERTAINLY NOT MY FELLOW  COMMISSIONERS PART. TO THE  EXTENT CERTAINLY NEEDS AND OR  WANTS. TAKE SECOND FIDDLE TO  PROJECT WE HAVE TO HAVE A  PLAN. A SADDLE ACCOMPLISH AND  SATISFY THE NEEDS OF OUR  VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS SO THEY  CAN'T JUST BE CUT TO THE  FOREVER, THEY HAVE TO  RECOGNIZING THAT PASSED AS WE  GO THESE. MAY BE EASILY  IDENTIFIABLE SOMEWHERE VERY  TOUGH DECISIONS TO MAKE AND  THEY HAVE BEEN PACKED AND  THAT'S WHERE WE NEED TO HEAR  FROM PEOPLE BECAUSE DECISIONS  WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE  ALL OF US ARE GOING TO HAVE TO  LIVE SO WON'T GETTING  HOPEFULLY WILL CLOSE ENOUGH TO  THAT 122 MILLION. BUT GUESS  PROBABLY NOT AS CLOSE AS WE  LIKED  >> SO WITH THAT OK BEFORE GET  CONDUCT ALSO THERE IS A CITY  MANAGER YOU DO HAVE A  PRESENTATION OR SOMETHING TO  PRESENT THE NUMBERS LIKE THESE  ARE PROJECTS. WE CAN SHUFFLE  AROUND OR CONSIDER.  >> IN THE ATTACHED IT TO THE  ISLAND WHERE ATTACKS WERE  LIST, YEAH SO THE DIFFERENT  PROJECTS BY THE DIFFERENT  RESOURCES THAT WE USE MAY OVER  THE NEXT 15 YEARS. WE YOU  WOULD GO THROUGH. THE FIRST  FLOOR WHERE THAT ARE NOT BEING  PRICE BOULEVARD YOU WOULD FIT  OR CONSIDER TOO EITHER REMOVED  OR LIE TO ANOTHER POINT IN  WILL GET WORK WHAT WE DO THE  OVERVIEW OF THE EELS YOU ARE  LOOKING AT NOW WE'RE PROPOSING  THAT WOULD ALLOW YOU TO HAVE  50 MILLION DOLLARS ARE FOR THE  PROJECT IT  >> FOR OKAY AND WE'RE STILL  GOING TO DISCUSS THE EYE. HE  WAS ATTACHED TO IT YESTERDAY  WROTE THE THAT WELL YOU WOULD  REALLY.  >> LIKE LOOK AT THE THE  PROJECTS THAT ARE INCLUSION  AGES THAT MAKE UP THE  DIFFERENT CATEGORIES THAT THEY  HAVE YEARS ATTEST TO THAT ARE  EITHER YEARS OF ON THE RECORD  NOT 5. REVENUE SOURCE FOR TAX  OR THAT.  ♪ WE'LL SEE FACE TO FACE.  >> JUST WONDER A REQUEST THAT  YOU PULL THEM UP USING R  ♪ >> I USED THE SUPPLEMENTAL  INFORMATION.  >> DOCUMENTS THAT WENT OUT  LIKE A WEEK OR SO AGO SOME OF  THAT WAS THE LAST OF SIRTEX  PROJECTS AND I LOOKED AT SO I  HOPE THERE ISN'T AN  INTERPRETATION ISSUE. BETWEEN  THAT 182 PAGE LIST AND  >> COMMISSIONER NOW YEAH, I'M  THINKING. THANK YOU BEFORE WE  STARTED THE CONVERSATION ABOUT  SURTAX AND SELLING PROPERTIES  AND ALL OF THAT STUFF.  >> WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO  KIND OF LOOK AT ALL OPTIONS ON  THE TABLE AND I KNOW THE FOCUS  HAS BEEN ON SURTAX AND THE  FOCUS HAS BEEN ON MILLAGE RATE  AND THE FOCUS HAS BEEN ON  SELLING THESE PROPERTIES.  >> I HAVE BEEN SINKING FOR THE  PAST WEEK. SOME OUT OF THE BOX  IDEAS. I GOT TO THINKING ABOUT  INVESTMENTS. MOST PEOPLE HAVE  INVESTMENTS. THEY YOU KNOW  STOCKS BONDS AND BEST MONEY  MARKETS, ALL DIFFERENT TYPES  OF INVESTMENTS. AND I KNOW FOR  A FACT THE CITY ALSO HAS  INVESTMENTS. SOME OF THEM ARE  COMPLETELY RESTRICTED  HANDS-OFF DO NOT TOUCH DON'T  EVEN THINK ABOUT THERE ARE  SOME THAT ARE A NUMBERED.  THERE ARE SOME THAT IS  AVAILABLE. SO I WOULD LIKE TO  KNOW.  >> WHAT IS THE AN INCOME BIRD  INVESTMENTS THAT WE HAVE SET  ASIDE AND SINCE IT WAS OUR  INVESTMENTS.  ♪ FINANCIAL PERSON THAT'S HERE  THAT'S WHAT GOT ME THINKING  ♪ ABOUT THIS POSSIBLE POT OF  THAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO TAP  INTO IT WILL BE ON DOUBLE. IT  WILL LONG-TERM EFFECTS. BUT AT  THE SAME TIME THAT'S WHAT  WE'RE EXPECTING OUR CITIZENS  TO DO OUR PROPERTY OWNERS TO  DO OUR BUSINESSES TO DO TO  TAKE HITS. I WANTED TO HAVE  THAT CONVERSATION AND GET AN  IDEA OF HOW MUCH WE HAVE IN  OUR INVESTMENT FUND FOR THE  GENERAL FUND THAT WE COULD  POSSIBLY TAP  >> SO THAT WOULD BE YOUR  UNRESTRICTED FUND BALANCE AND  THAT'S WHAT WE PRESENT TO YOU  EVERY TIME WE HAVE A BUDGET  AMENDMENT THAT'S WHAT WE  CONSIDER WHEN WE'RE BUILDING  OUR BUDGET AND HOW MUCH ARE  PROTECTING OUR EXPENDITURES  PROJECTING OUR REVENUE WE  BELIEVE YOU KNOW, HERE'S WHAT  WE'RE PROJECTING ARE  UNRESTRICTED FUND BALANCE TO  BE AND THAT IS AFTER THEY  RESERVES THE 20% RESERVE ON  FUND BALANCE THAT WE HAVE PER  POLICY. SO IT'S NOT LIKE YOU  CAN JUST GO AND SAY HEY WE  HAVE NO AND MILLIONS OF  DOLLARS  >> WHAT TELLS YOU HOW MUCH OF  THAT YOU CAN SPEND FOR WHAT  PURPOSES AS THE FUND BALANCE  AND IN THE DIFFERENT FONTS.  >> SO YOU'RE.  >> WE THINK ACTUALLY GOT A LOT  OF CASH BUT.  >> NOT AVAILABLE FOR SPENDING  EXCEPT FOR THE UNRESTRICTED  FUND BALANCE OR THE NEW  REVENUES WERE PROJECTED TO  COME IN WHEN YOU GIVE THE FUND  BALANCE SHEET. FOR THE GENERAL  FUND AND IT SHOWING THE 20%  SUBTRACTED ALL ENCUMBRANCES  ATTRACTED IN THAT LEAVES US  WITH I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH IS  IN IT I DIDN'T I DON'T HAVE  THE MOST CURRENT SHEET.  >> ACTUALLY WHAT'S IN OUR  INVESTMENT THAT WE THAT  INTEREST AND I'M ASKING OUR  INVESTMENT FUND WHAT IS IN OUR  INVESTMENT FUND WHAT'S  ALLOWABLE FOR USE AS THAT  UNRESTRICTED FUND BALANCE.  >> YOU'RE THINKING BUT.  >> ALLOWABLE USES THE ONLY  FUNDS WOULD BE ABLE TO USE FOR  THIS PURPOSE WOULD BE GENERAL  ON LAW ENFORCEMENT IMPACT  FEES. AND SURTAX SO YOU WANT  TO WANT TO LOOK AT THE FUND  BALANCES AND THOSE REFUNDS  THAT'S WHAT. WHEN YOU'RE  LOOKING FOR HEY WHAT CAN WE  TAP INTO WHAT DO WE HAVE THAT  WE CAN UTILIZE FOR THIS. THOSE  3 UNRESTRICTED FUND BALANCES  ARE WHAT WE HAVE TO APPLY TO  THIS PROJECT.  >> SO WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THE  CAP FOR.  >> IT.  >> ITS PAINTING A DIFFERENT  PICTURE THAN WHAT YOUR ONE  PAGE FUND BALANCE IS SHOWING.  AND I CANNOT. FATHOM WITH THE  AMOUNT INTEREST THAT WE  COLLECT YEAR OVER YEAR. THAT  THERE ISN'T MONEY SET. IN AN  INVESTMENT THAT WE INVESTMENT  ALL A  >> SAW LARGE PORTFOLIO YES AND  IT IS MANAGED BY A SEPARATE  SECTION OF AM YES, WE DO WE  COLLECT INTEREST WE. KEEP THE  MAJORITY OF IT IN THOSE  INVESTMENTS UNLESS TO BE VERY  LOOK WHAT WE HAVE DIFFERENT  TYPES IT'S IT'S THAT IT'S BUT  THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN JUST  GO AND TAKE THAT MONEY AND  UTILIZE IT THAT'S ASSETS THAT  HAVE BUILT UP SINCE THE  BEGINNING OF PORT. BUT WHAT  YOU HAVE AVAILABLE AND  ALLOWABLE TO BE USED ARE THOSE  UNRESTRICTED FUND BALANCES YOU  SUGGESTING WE THE ASSETS AND  OUR PORTFOLIO.  >> WELL, I DON'T KNOW I'M  TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT  PORTFOLIO LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT  WE COULD LIQUIDATE IN THAT  PORTFOLIO. THAT ISN'T GOING TO  JEOPARDIZE THE PENSION FUND  AND PROJECTS THAT ARE COMING  FORWARD IN OUR CITY S IT SO I  DON'T KNOW IS THE FINANCIAL  ADVISER WOULD LIKE TO WEIGH IN  WHAT SORT OF LIQUID ASSETS  BALANCE.  >> SO SO.  >> AS INDICATED.  >> YES, I'M HERBS ACTUALLY US  BUSINESS NOW SO SEVERAL YEARS  AGO. WE SEPARATE ALL RIGHT,  THAT'S THIS IS SO WE DO METAL  VISOR WORKERS HERE IN THIS  POLL BISER FOR PEOPLE PLANTED.  IT JUST KIND OF HIGH-LEVEL  WITH WITH HOW IS YOUR YOUR  SPECIFIC IT'S I DON'T HAVE.  >> COULD YOU TELL ME WHAT'S IN  THE FUND BALANCE WHAT THE FUND  BALANCE US NOW FROM GENERAL  POINT. I DON'T HAVE THAT IT  HASN'T BEEN BY.  >> SO A MILLION. I'M SURE IT.  >> AND SURTAX HAS UNRESTRICTED  17 MILLION I ASKED THAT  QUESTION IN MY QUESTION IN  SHEENS AND IN THAT QUESTION  SHE IT SAID THAT IT'S GOING TO  BE USING.  ♪ ♪ >> SORRY, LOOKING FOR.  >> 17.6 MILLION IS IN AND  UNRESTRICTED IN SURTAX. BUT  THERE'S PLANS TO USE SOME OF  THAT FOR THE E E O C AND THE  REAM AND THERE'S.  >> AND ANY REMAINDER WILL BE  PAID FOR PRICE BOULEVARD. ANY  REMAINDER WILL CARRY OVER TO  HELP WITH THE FUNDING RIGHTS,  FUNDING FOR PRICE.  >> BONDS THAT WILL ISSUE.  LATER THIS YEAR OR FOR PRICE  FIRST PAYS A PRICE. SO WE YES  WE DO HAVE FUND BALANCES THAT  EVERY TIME AT ALL TIMES AND  CIR CHECKS. THERE IS A FINE  BALANCE, BUT WE HAVE PROJECTS  PROGRAM FOR ALL OF THAT. SO IF  YOU SEE IN THE PLAN WE  ACTUALLY BELIEVE IT WAS.  >> WE YOU KNOW WE HAVE A  SHORTAGE CURRENTLY AND 30 THAT  34 YEARS, BUT WE KNOW WILL  MOST LIKELY MAKE THAT UP IN  ADDITIONAL REVENUES THAT WILL  COME IN BY THAT TIME. SO WE WE  HAVE EVERY DOLLAR PROGRAM PLUS  AN ADDITIONAL BY THE END OF  THE 15 YEAR PERIOD. WE'RE  SHORT 3 MILLION RIGHT NOW  AGAIN AS 15 YEARS SO WE JUST  PLANS WE GO AS WE REPORTED  REVENUES, AS PROJECTS COST  OR LESS THEN WE PLANNED. THAT  PLAN.  >> THAT NUMBER GETS ADJUSTED,  OK SO LET'S GO BAD IF I COULD  TO MY QUESTION ABOUT WHEN WE  HAVE SURTAX THAT ALMOST. 17.6  MILLION DOLLARS. UNRESTRICTED  IT'S AVAILABLE FOR  >> NOT NOT AVAILABLE FOR USE  WE GET TO ONE OF THESE  PROJECTS GET WITH PROGRAM FOR  EVERY DOLLAR WE HAVE WE  PROGRAM PROJECT CENT AND AGAIN  WE'VE GONE OVER WE'VE  OVERSPENT BY THE END OF THE 15  YEAR PERIOD BY 3.1 MILLION.  BUT WE KNOW DURING THAT 15  PERIOD, WE'LL ADJUST THAT.  >> THEM WITH ALL RESPECT YOU  HAD MENTIONED THAT THE FUND  BALANCE REPORTS THAT WE ARE  SUPPLY IS THE UNRESTRICTED  AVAILABLE FUND BALANCE TO BE  ABLE TO BE USED AND NOW YOU'RE  SAYING THAT THAT MONEY IS NOT  AVAILABLE TO BE USED SO WAS  NOT THAT ACTUALLY AVAILABLE TO  BE USED WHEN THE FUND BALANCE  REPORT SHOWING 17.6 WE CAN  TAKE THAT 17.6 AND USE THAT IF  WE CAN TO OR WE PUT OURSELVES.  YOU KNOW.  >> MUCH OVERSPENT AND WHEN  >> WE CAN USE OF SOME 2.6 BUT.  SOMETHING'S NOT TO.  >> I FEEL BLESSED.  >> NO IT'S NOT THAT'S THE LIST  AND HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING  AND I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING  BUT FUND BALANCE REPORTS ARE  TO BE AN ENCUMBER AVAILABLE  FOR USE. GENERAL FUND BALANCE  TO 7.8 MILLION DOLLARS. IT'S  AVAILABLE TO BE USED WHAT WE  WANT USE THAT 7.8 MILLION  DOLLARS BUT CERTAIN TAX FUND  BALANCE IS SHOWING 17.6  MILLION AND NOW YOU'RE SAYING  THAT THAT MONEY IS NOT  AVAILABLE.  >> SIRTEX FUND IS DIFFERENT  THAN THE GENERAL FUND WE'RE  ALWAYS GOING TO PLAN TO USE  ALL OF IT. SO WE'RE GOING PLAY  THE PROJECT FOR BIRD.  >> IT'S WE HAVE PLANS AGAINST  IT, BUT IT AND IN THE COMING  HOUR YEARS IS NOT INCOME.  >> IS SAFE TO SAY TO THE  NUMBER GO OR ARE OVER ROLE  TOOK PLEA TO WHAT IS SEE THAT  WITHOUT PART OF OR WILL AS  OPPOSED TO A STATIC WORKSHOP  OKAY, SO WHAT IS THE ON  ENCUMBERED FUND BALANCE FOR  SURTAX.  >> 0  >> IF WE CONTINUE WITH THESE  PROJECTS OF THIS PROJECT CLEAN  >> HAVE ANYTHING TO USE FROM  THAT IT WAS THE WAY EVEN  THOUGH THE DOT IT WOULD BE YOU  KNOW SAFE AND THANK YOU.  >> DIFFERENT TERMINOLOGY USED  OF FUND BALANCE AND THAT'S WHY  I WANT TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF  IT SO THANK YOU FOR THE PRICE  BOULEVARD IN THE ANSWER.  >> IT SAID THAT.  >> THE MONEY WOULD ANY  REMAINDER WILL CARRY OVER TO  HELP WITH FUNDING PRICE YOU  COULD YOU PLEASE ANSWER WHAT  FUNDING FOR PRICE PHASE ONE  PHASE 2 FUNDING FOR PROJECTS  THAT YOU WERE MENTIONING NEEDS  TO BE TAKEN CARE THIS YEAR. SO  PHASE ONE.  >> AND WE HAVE IF YOU LOOK AT  THE BOTTOM LINE ON THE LAST  PAGE PAGE 4. YOU CAN SEE THE.  I SUPPOSE ONE BOND OF SERVICE.  32.7 MILLION H AND H.  >> IF 5 YEAR PERIOD OUR PAGES  ARE NOT NUMBERED. SO YOU NEED  TO BE SPECIFIC.  >> DO THAT AT  >> THE ONE THAT STATED 3 2624  COLUMN ALL RIGHT.  >> CHRYSLER PHASE. 1 ONE SUM  IS 5192.  >> SO THAT'S YEAH THAT'S  REALLY THING THAT AND THEN  ADDING TO THE DEBT FOR IT  PREVIOUSLY HAD IT AND AS A  LUMP SUM. SO THAT AND ADDED  THE DEBT SERVICE OVER THE 15  YEARS OK, SO WE HAVE.  >> APPROVAL FROM THE CITIZEN  ISSUE MEDIAN BILLION DOLLAR  BOND FOR PRICE BOULEVARD.  >> WHAT IS SHORT THEN TO PAY  THAT BACK. IT'S SO.  >> WE HAVE APPROVAL, BUT THE  INTENT IS TO ISSUE 63 MILLION  DOLLARS THAT'S THE PRINCIPAL  AMOUNT THAT WILL ISSUE. A  OKAY, SO AGAIN WE WILL LET  THAT  >> YOU JUST 63 MILLION FOR  BRYCE POWELL ARE CORRECT.  PRICE BOULEVARD ON THIS SHEET.  IT'S 51.8.  >> MILLION.  >> SO NOW IT'S GOING TO BE  53 MILLION. IF YOU LOOK PAGE 3  PRICE BOULEVARD. UNDER ROAD  AND DRAINAGE.  >> WOULD WE UNDERSTAND IN THE  U.S., BUT 63 MILLION AND  THAT'S WHAT WE CALCULATE THIS  >> DID THAT COME OUT.  >> WHEN DID WE GET THOSE NEW  NUMBERS FOR PRICE BOULEVARD.  ♪ ♪ >> THAT'S THE PUBLIC WORKS  DIRECTOR THAT IS IT IS  INSURERS ESTIMATE OF COSTS.  LAST YEAR. THIS PROJECT GONE  TO YET SO WE DON'T HAVE HARD  NUMBERS.  >> SO ALREADY 12 MILLION  BEHIND ON OUR PROJECTED CHIEF  THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE.  >> THAT NUMBER HASN'T BEEN  UPDATED BUT DIRECTOR SAID THE  BOND WILL BE FOR THE  63 MILLION SO YOU'VE GOT  NUMBERS SINCE THE 26. BUT HAS  NOT BEEN UPDATED.  >> SO AS WE DISCUSSED A FEW  MINUTES AGO AS PROJECTS CHANGE  AS THEY COST MORE OR LESS.  >> AS REVENUES COME IN HIGHER  WE ADJUST THE SURTAX MOST  RECENT ESTIMATE ISN'T YEAR.  AND THAT'S THAT SERVICE AND  THAT'S THE LINE THAT YOU'RE  LOOKING AT THE 32. BUT  7 MILLION.  >> SHE'S LOOKING AT CONTAINING  THE OUT OF THE MOST CURRENT  PRICE, DOES NOT  >> 52 MILLION A SAFE ONE OF  FOOT IN GROUPS ARE CHECKED FOR  THAT'S ALL I CAN TAKE OUT. IF  WE DIDN'T HAVE BUT REVENUE  ESTIMATE, THEN WHAT WE HAD  WHAT WE PUT THIS PLAN IN WE  COULDN'T FIND IT BECAUSE WE  WOULDN'T HAVE ABILITY TO PAY  FOR THE INTEREST SOMEWHAT WITH  THANK GOING THROUGH IT AGAIN  WHAT. GOING SURTAX 3 IS ALSO  IN HELPING PAY FOR THAT IT'S  ALSO PAYING FOR SOME SURTAX 3  PROJECTS GOING TO HAPPEN IN  THE SURTAX FOR TIME RATE. WE  DO THAT WE TOOK A OR TEXT 3 WE  KNEW WE HAVE A LITTLE LIKES TO  EARTH. TOOK THEM OUT FOR.  BECAUSE WE KNEW WE HAVE A  LITTLE EXTRA WE WOULD PAY FOR  WITH 3 MONEY BUT WE DIDN'T  NEED TO DO THEM RIGHT AWAY. SO  ALL THIS MONEY, THE BALANCE  THAT YOU'RE SAYING IT'S ALL  BEEN ACCOUNTED FOR ITS ALL IN  THIS PLAN. IT'S PAYING FOR. IN  PRESS OVER THE NAVARRO THEY DO  TRY STAYS WANT. IT'S HELPING  US TO PAY FOR THE INTEREST ON.  I STILL 50 MILLION DOLLARS 80  HAVE COURTS. AGAIN THOSE  NUMBERS WILL IS AS WE GET THE  BOND AND WE GET ACTUAL NUMBERS  RIGHT NOW MINUTE.  >> IT DOES I JUST. I DON'T  KNOW HOW WE CAN HAVE THE  CONVERSATION ABOUT SURTAX AND  WHAT PROJECTS WE WANT TO.  >> MOVE AROUND AND PLAY  SHOWING WITH WHEN TOMORROW. WE  ARE MEETING WITH A PARTNER.  >> THAT HELPED US GET SURTAX  APPROVED. SO WE CAN HAVE THAT  CONVERSATION BUT I AM NOT  GOING TO BE COMFORTABLE  APPROVING ANY CHANGES UNTIL  AFTER WE HAVE THAT  CONVERSATION WITH OUR PARTNER.  AND THEY'RE NOT EVEN HERE FOR  THIS CONVERSATION WHICH IS TO  ME MY OPINION GROSSLY UNFAIR.  >> WE HAVE IS THAT FOR THE  WORKSHOP THAT YOU COULD HAVE  THAT CONVERSATION IT TAKE  THOSE NOTES. IT WAS CHANGED  WAS THAT I BUT BEFORE BOARD  YOU MAKE SOME DECISIONS THAT  WERE NOT HO RECOMMENDATIONS  FOR US THE REASON I SUGGESTED  CHANGING IT WAS TO APPROVE THE  DESIGN.  >> HOW WE'RE GOING TO PAY FOR  THE DESIGN TO A 100% OF THE  PLANT. THE CONVERSATION WAS  FORCED TEXAS YET PROJECT IT IS  THAT YOU HAVE OPEN DISCUSSION.  BEFORE A DECISION I MAYBE I  CAN HELP IN THAT I DON'T  BELIEVE DAY.  >> IT IS OUR INTENT ACTUALLY  AND TO ACTUALLY MAKE A HARD  DECISION. WHAT SURTAX PROJECTS  WE MAY OR MAY NOT INCLUDE BUT  ONLY TO HELP IDENTIFY TO COME  UP WITH A POTENTIAL USED TO  SEEING. WE ARE WE BLACKS THAT  DISCUSSION HERE THEN TOMORROW  WILL REALLY INCORPORATE OUR  CHAMBER PARTNERS TO GET THEIR  INPUT INTO THIS PROCESS. I  DON'T THINK ANY FINAL  DECISIONS ARE BEING MADE ON  ANYTHING TODAY EXCEPT MAYBE  THE DESIGN ASPECTS WE CHOOSE  TO ADDRESS THOSE, BUT WE NEED  TO WORK THROUGH. WELL THIS  LAUNDRY LIST OF SURTAX  PROJECTS MAY BE ADDED TO THAT  50 MILLION DOLLAR NUMBER IF IF  WE'D ALL MEAN IF ONLY COME UP  WITH THIS 10 OR 20 MILLION OR  NOT EVEN THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT  A SIGNIFICANT PROPERTY TAX  INCREASE THAT'S WHERE WE NEED  TO TRY TO GET TO TODAY  CONCEPTUALLY WHERE WE BECAUSE  WE CAN'T YET PAY. WHAT WE'RE  GOING TO ASK OUR CITIZENS TO  BE AND WE ALSO CAN'T. REFINING  SCOPE OF THIS PROJECT UNTIL WE  KNOW WHAT THE TOTAL DOLLARS  AVAILABLE MIGHT WE'VE GOT TO  START SOMEWHERE AND IT'S JUST.  THAT SLOW GOING THROUGH THESE  WITH THE COLLECTIVE INPUT  EVERYBODY WHO'S HERE AND THEN  WE'RE GOING COLLECTING INPUT  TOMORROW, BUT YOU KNOW I MEAN  THAT'S SORT WHERE WE GOT TO GO  WITH THIS PRETTY MUCH JUST  HAVE TO I MEAN.  >> BECAUSE THERE'S NOWHERE  ELSE TO I IF I MAY ALSO THERE  FOR THE BOARD. IF YOU DO  MODIFY YOUR SURTAX PROJECTS  THAT WILL COME BACK BEFORE THE  BOARD THE A RESOLUTION FINAL  AND OFFICIAL THOUGH WE DO NEED  SOME DIRECTION HOW TO TRACK  THANK YOU CLARIFYING  COMMISSIONER LANGDON JUST A  QUICK COMMENT THE TASK AT HAND  IS LOOKING AT THOSE SURTAX  PROJECTS.  >> I WOULD CERTAINLY SUGGEST  FROM MY POINT OF VIEW WHAT I  THINK COULD GO WITHOUT HAVING  A REALLY SERIOUS IMPACT ON THE  HEALTH AND WELL-BEING OF THIS  COMMUNITY. STAFF I WOULD BE A  LITTLE BIT MORE COMFORTABLE  LET'S TRY TO FIND 15 MILLION  OR 20 MILLION THEN MAYBE WE  WOULD HAVE A BETTER IDEA WHAT  THAT NUMBER IN A CONVERSATION  ABOUT PROJECTS. BUT OUR  DEPARTMENT HEADS FAST. WHAT  THE IMPLICATIONS ARE OF  CUTTING CERTAIN THINGS SO I  THINK IT MEANS TO BE AN  INTERACTIVE CONVERSATION.  BECAUSE I CERTAINLY FROM MY  POINT OF VIEW WOULDN'T WE NEED  TO CUT THE SWAN WITHOUT REALLY  UNDERSTANDING FROM THE  DEPARTMENT HAD ONE OF THE  IMPLICATIONS OF THAT DECISION  SO MY $0.2.  >> RESPOND MISTER LANKANS YOU  KNOW IN A PERFECT WORLD THAT  WOULD BE GREAT I I CERTAINLY  WOULDN'T THINK THERE'S  >> ONE DEPARTMENT HEAD HERE  PUTTING MYSELF IN ANY OF YOUR  PLACES WOULD SIT HERE AND SAY  OH I'D BE WILLING TO FORGO ANY  ONE OF THESE PROJECTS THEN WE  WOULD HAVE TO DECIDE OKAY SO  THE MOOKIE IS ON OUR BACKS.  >> 2 RAISES THE ISSUE. THEN  TASK. WHAT WOULD IT MEAN TO  YOU. DEPARTMENT HAD IF THIS  WERE UPRIGHT REPRIORITIZE IT'S  NOT KILLED WE PRIORITIZE OUR  THERE ARE MORE CREATIVE METHOD  ALL TO ACCOMPLISH THAT PROJECT  THAT'S SITTING HERE ON THE  SURTAX LIST. CAN IT BE DELAYED  IF IT CAN'T BE DELAYED WHAT  OTHER WAYS SKIN THIS CAT TO ME  THAT'S THE WAY TO DO IT  THERE'S JUST NO LESS PAINFUL  WAY TO DO THIS BECAUSE FOR  EACH OF YOU OUT THERE THESE  PROJECTS ARE EVERY AS  IMPORTANT ANYTHING AND AND IF  THEY WANT THEY WANT TO BE ON  THE LIST TO BEGIN WITH AND  THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN ON THE  SO I DON'T WANT TO PRESUME  THAT YOU ALL CAN LIKE CO.  EVERY BUDGET WISE AND EVERY  OTHER TO SAY, HERE'S I WANT  FOR AND THEN LIKE EVERYBODY  THINKS GOVERNMENT ALWAYS  EVERYTHING THERE'S NO PAIN IN  YOUR THESE ON IT.  >> MOST CASES NEEDS.  >> WE'RE SERIOUS SO IT'S ON  THAT THEY COME OUT ONE AND  TALK ABOUT LET'S JUST DO IT,  OKAY JUST NO WAY GET AROUND  OKAY.  >> SO WHAT YOU WANT TO START  I'M LOOKING AT THE FOR A WEEK  UNTIL AGE SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING  HERE LOOK THOSE OF THE  PROJECTS THAT WERE PROPOSED TO  BEACH.  >> BUT IT'S NOT THEY NOT A WAS  OK THE HEAT SHOW YOU HOW YOU  KNOW YOU LET THEM KNOW RIGHT  UK WITH THAT THAT'S WHAT WE  REPORT OUT. YOU HAVE A BUDGET  AND CONVERSATION ORGANIZE  AROUND THE COMMUNITY ORDERS.  SO WE'RE STILL AWAITING THAT  BACK TO YOU FOR YOUR APPROVAL,  YOU AGREE WITH THAT YOU CAN GO  THROUGH A LIST OF WHAT WE'RE  OKAY.  >> SO THIS WE HAD SET ASIDE  FOR THE IOS 8 SO SO THAT WE  RIGHT YOU WANT TO CALL LIKE IT  ABOUT THE LAST THAT IS THE  MATH YOU THIS IS STILL OUT  THERE FOR FOR THE EELS ORDERS.  THIS WAS THE FIRST STEP.  >> THE SUGGESTION SPEAKING OUT  OF ORDER HERE WOULD PAY THAT  WE NOT GET BOGGED DOWN IN A  CONVERSATION OF THE ELC AT  THIS POINT LET'S ASSUME THAT'S  A PROJECT WE WANT TO DO IT'S A  HIGH PRIORITY PERHAPS EQUAL TO  IF NOT GREATER THAN THE POLICE  HEADQUARTERS LET'S SIT OUT  THERE, LET'S FIGURE OUT WHAT  SLEPT HERE THAT WE CAN WORK  WITH AND SEE WHERE WE ARE WE  NEED 11 MILLION MORE AT THAT  POINT IN TIME MAYBE WE WANT TO  RECONSIDER WHAT TO DO SEE  MAYBE WE DO. SPEND THE NEXT  COUPLE HOURS TALKING ABOUT  THAT YOU KNOW IT'S AGREE WITH  ME, BUT THAT'S JUST MY ONLY I  JUST THINK GOT TO GET TO THE  MEAT IS. ARE ARE TOLD MAYBE  THAT'S WHAT IT'S GOING TO  TIMES THAT'S RIGHT.  >> OKAY, SO YOU'RE LOOKING OR  US TOO GO THROUGH THIS IOS A  FUNDING OR THAT WE AGREE THAT.  >> THIS MONEY SHOULD WE  BECAUSE THAT COME DUE AT END  OF YEAR. THERE RIGHT IF WE  DON'T PAY A YOU CAN DO THAT WE  CAN GO TO THE DIFFERENT  OPTIONS, CORRECT. YEAH THAT  AFTER THIS.  >> IT'S RIGHT. OK SO LET'S  JUST STICK WITH THE O C PANEL  FIRST COMMISSIONER COW.  >> THE WHAT WAS IT WAS A YEAR  AGO WHEN WE HAD A DISCUSSION  ABOUT THE FACILITY NEEDS  ASSESSMENT. THAT CONVERSATION  HAD FOR IOS E. TO BE PART OF  THIS PROJECT. IT TO INCLUDE A  HEADQUARTERS 9 MOMENTO  COMMUNICATIONS PROPERTY AND  EVIDENCE AND YOSSI. AND IT  SAYS IN THERE THAT THE  CONSTRUCTION WOULD BE IN  TWENTY-TWENTY 6 FOR 11.2  MILLION DOLLARS. BUT THERE'S  ANOTHER COLUMN THAT SAYS  CONSTRUCTION IN 2030.  >> IS THEIR CONSIDERATION TO  BUILD IT IN 2030 AT 14 MILLION  DOLLAR.  >> CONSTRUCTION COST IS THAT  WHY THEY WANT TO SET A NUMBER  OF NUMBERS. OR IS THAT  CONSTRUCTION WHO TAKE US TO 20  30. AND GOING BACK A YEAR AGO  WHEN WE HAD THE POWER POINT  PRESENTATION.  >> THIS IS THE  >> THIS IS YOUR PLAN THIS IS  STAFF'S I'M TRYING TO  UNDERSTAND HOW WE CAN MAKE IT  >> IS A QUESTION YOU THEM  REQUIRE WAS THAT HER TO 11  WHAT KNOW EIGHTS.  >> THERE WAS CONSTRUCTION IN  2026 AND I DON'T MEAN IF THAT  MEANS CONSTRUCTION TO TAKE US  TO GROWTH OF 2026 OR THERE'S  ANOTHER COLUMN THAT SAYS  CONSTRUCTION TO AND I DON'T  KNOW IF THAT'S GOING TO TAKE  US TO GROWTH OF 2030. I DON'T  CONSTRUCTION AND THAT YEAR  MEANS THAT'S MY FIRST  QUESTION. IF YOU WANT TO SEE  THE PAGE TO HELP SLEEP STARTED  SCOTT TIMES FOR  >> SO 2030 MAP THAT'S WHAT I  THINK THAT NUMBER WAS FIGURED  AS ESCALATION OF WHAT IT COST  REMOVE THAT POINT SO THERE'S  BEEN SEVERAL EXERCISES AND  INTEGRATIONS DONE WITH THE CFP  FROM REMEMBER ALL THE PROJECTS  GOT MOVED AROUND BECAUSE OF MY  AND SO WE LOOK AT WHAT COSTS  ARE NOW WHAT COST MIGHT BE  LATER SHOW SOME OF THE  PROJECTS AND SCENE OR THEIR  PUMP BACK HAVE THOSE THAT'S  WHAT FIRST 2. THIS WHAT YOU  SEE FROM RIGHT WHAT'S  DISCUSSED AND WHAT'S BEEN  RECOMMENDED BY STAFF INCLUDING  TODAY IS IN FRONT OF YOU FOR  CONSIDERATION. YOU ALSO TO  MOVE AHEAD WITH THAT THAT WILL  COME IN FRONT OF YOU FOR  FORMAL APPROVAL ADOPTION.  >> AND SPEAKING THANK YOU FOR  THE ANSWER ON THAT NOW I CAN  PUT THAT TO THIS SURTAX FOR  FOR THE ROAD. WE WE JUST  RECENTLY APPROVED 2.2 MILLION  FROM. THE BOND. SAVINGS. TO BE  APPLIED TO ROAD  REHABILITATION. IN 2. FIXING  THE THINGS THAT WERE ROAD BOND  RELATED REPAIRED THAT DIDN'T  WORK AND NOW WE HAVE TO HAVE  THE 2.2 MILLION. SO 2.2  MILLION IS THAT. RELATED OR  SEPARATE. BELIEVE THESE ARE  SEPARATE.  >> COULD THAT YOU POINT TO IS  TO GO AROUND WE GOT FROM THE  ROBOT AND YOU'RE RIGHT COULD  ONLY GO BACK REDO THE ROADS  THAT THAT STILL WE'RE GOING  PREVIOUSLY THROUGH THE ROAD  THIS WAS PART OF THE FUTURE.  LAND OF HIS RHODRI HAVE THAT  HE WAS ABLE TO REDUCE A SURTAX  PORTION REMEMBER DOING  DRAINAGE PORTION GOING TO ROAD  REHAB SO IT'S NOT. IT'S NOT  CUTTING IT AS MUCH AS YOU  WOULD THINK SO HE WAS ABLE TO  REMOVE THAT FROM THE NEXT 2  YEARS. 2526 TO PUT TOWARDS THE  POTENTIAL YOU  >> WHY WOULD WHY WOULD WE PUT  OURSELVES BEHIND THE 8 BALL  WAS ROAD. WE KNOW HAITIAN  PROJECTS FOR FISCAL YEAR, 2526  KNOWING THAT THE 2.2 MILLION  IS GOING TO GO TO FIX THAT  ORIGINALLY DO WITH THE ROAD ON  THE TURF A LITTLE THIS IS  SOUNDS LIKE THIS 2.2 MILLION  FOR KNEW THAT WE HAVE TO FIX.  >> THAT'S PEOPLE COURT'S  DIRECT OR SO THE 2.2 MILLION  WAS BASICALLY MOVING THE  SURTAX MONEY LITTLE USED. IF  YOU'VE GOT MONEY THAT COULD BE  USED SEE HIM REPLACED NOT  REDUCING WE WOULD HAVE HAD  REPAY ROADS WET. THANKFULLY  THE SAVINGS THAT WE HAVE THE  ROAD BOND WITH THAT SURPLUS.  WE HAVE THE ROBOT FUNDS WE'RE  TOLD SO RATHER WROTE WE FOR  THOSE IT WAS ROADS THAT HAD TO  BE REDONE PROBE YOU WANT  FUNDS.  >> AND SO WHY WOULD WE REDUCE  FIXING OUR ROADS. ANOTHER 2.2  MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE POLICE  DEPARTMENT WE'RE NOT PRODUCING  ANYTHING I TOOK 2.2 MILLION  HERE.  >> MOVED OVER 2.2 MILLION  THEY'RE BROUGHT BACK. THE  MONEY IS WITH THE SAME. THE  AMOUNT ROADS WILL BE THE SAY  OK THEY SAID THAT THEY'RE  SEPARATE PROJECTS SOUNDING  LIKE YOU'RE SAYING THEY'RE THE  SAME.  >> IT'S NOT SEPARATE SEPARATE  PROJECTS BECAUSE WE'RE  SPLITTING ABOUT IT'S NOT ABOUT  THE TRACK FOR THAT 2.2 MILLION  GOES AT THE THAT SURPLUS  SAVINGS FROM THE ROOF ON WANT  TO ABOUT THEY'RE ONLY SEPARATE  BECAUSE OF THE FUNDING SOURCE,  NOT BECAUSE OF AMOUNT ROADS  THAT ARE GOING TO GET.  >> WE'RE NOT ROAD IT'S STILL  THE SAME.  >> I'M NOT SEEING IT.  >> IT WAS 2 ALL THAT YOU IS  THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT WE'RE  WHAT YOU'LL SEE IN ALL THE  WORLD WE HAVE NEW IT WILL BE  MOVING THAT SAME AMOUNT DAY.  SO THIS A SO YOU'RE NOT LOSING  ANYTHING EURO YOU KNOW WORLD  WE'VE A TON OF WILL BE THE  EXACT SAME OR SALUTE IT OR YOU  AGREE TO THIS JUST LIKE  >> 2.2 THAT WE APPROVE WAS TO  ROADS THAT ARE DETERIORATING  MAKER THAT OR SAVINGS FROM THE  GROVE, I'M HONEST.  >> A LOT OF ROADS.  >> IT'S JUST FACT THAT  >> WE HAVE A SAVINGS ABOUT HE  TOOK SAVINGS ROBOT MONEY. THE  UPCOMING ROSE THE ADDITION OF  TOOK THAT SAME 0 BY THAT FOR  SO HE WAS ABLE ARGUING THAT  ARE HAVE VOTED YES. SO THAT'S  WHAT ARE PART THAT.  >> I'M GOING THERE.  >> WHICH HAD TO BE REPAID  ANYWAY. DAVE THEM  >> HAVE SIDE NO MATTER IS IN  CS 8 HE WAS ABLE TO UTILIZE  WHATEVER ONE TO 2 SAYING THE  MONEY UP. IT'S THE YES, I GOT  IT, I'M I'M FROM COLD  >> THINK IT'S LIKE HOW WE  WRITE THAT WE DID EXACTLY THE  SAME MUCH THAT YOU ARE GREEN  OUT AND CITY MANAGER PUT US  ALL IN A ROOM SET GOING TO  WORK, LET'S LOOK AT THE OC  FUNDING HOW HOW DO WE GET THAT  SO WHAT YOU SEE IN FRONT OF  YOU WAS A COLLABORATION OF ALL  STAFF LOOKING AT CIP PROJECTS  ARE THERE SHAVINGS ANYWHERE OR  ANYTHING WE'RE TRYING TO BE.  CREATIVE ON THE CONCERT FUNDS  CAN ONLY BE USED FOR CERTAIN  THINGS WAS A MATTER OF SITTING  DOWN FIGURING ALL ALL OF THAT  OUT SO THAT WE SEE IN FRONT OF  YOU ALMOST EXACTLY THINK OF  WHAT YOU CURRENTLY WORKING ON  DOING RIGHT NOW IS HOW HOW  THIS COUNTRY I APPRECIATE THE  CONVERSATION PART OF MY GOAL  IS TO MAKE THAT WE'RE TAKING  2.2 MILLION DOLLARS.  >> OUT FIXING OUR BECAUSE I  DON'T ABOUT YOU, BUT HAVE A  LOT OF E-MAILS ABOUT CONDITION  ABOUT ONE NOT NOT TO MAKE  BECAUSE THAT'S ALWAYS AND BUT  WE DO WHOLE BUBBLE OF ART AND  THAT IS COMING DOWN THE PIPE  NOT WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT  WE'RE NOT SHORTCHANGING THOSE  ROADS ARE BEING REPAIRED  THAT'S WHERE I'M GOING WITH.  >> THAT'S TOOK 2.2 OUT BUT 2.2  MILLION DOING THE EXACT SAME  MILES OF  >> ANYBODY.  >> SHELL GAME.  ♪ ♪ THANK WE HAVE MANY OTHER.  QUESTIONS OR WE WANT TO START.  WE WANT TO DO.  >> MATTER REAL QUICK. YES. ALL  >> COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL  BROUGHT UP A VERY GOOD POINT  EARLY ON ABOUT WHEN WE'RE  TALKING ABOUT ALL THESE SUR  TAX AND WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT  CONVERSATION WITH CHAMBER OF  COMMERCE SHIP WHICH IS DUE  TOMORROW. SO I MEAN PICKING  AND CHOOSING THROUGHOUT WHAT  WE WANT TO KEEP AND WHAT WE  DON'T WANT TO KEEP, LET'S JUST  SAY THAT MEETING GOES VERY  WELL TOMORROW AND THEY SAY  YEAH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND PUT  IT ON THE BALLOT. THAN THE  CITIZEN SIDE NOTE, I'M JUST  LOOKING AT THE OPPOSITE RATHER  BEEN LOOKING GOOD GOING  FORWARD WHAT IF THEY SAY NO TO  THAT AND THEN THERE'S BEEN A  LOT OF RAISE MILLAGE RATE. AND  THAT DOESN'T EVEN INCORPORATE  THAT POLICE STATION THEY'RE  TALKING ABOUT WELL OUR  MILITARY SHOULD NEVER BE  INCREASED WHICH HAD STAND DOES  HAVE TO BE INCREASED, BUT IF  WE INCREASE IT BY THIS 0.3 LOT  PERCENTAGE AND THEN WE HAVE TO  GO BACK AND HIT AGAIN. THAT'S  HITTING IT ON THE MILLAGE RATE  SO THIS IS THESE CONVERSATIONS  HAVE GOT TO COME AROUND WHAT  IT SEES 85 MILLION DOESN'T  HAPPEN WHAT WHAT ARE YOU GOING  TO DO  ♪ YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I  ♪ GOT  >> BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE  WANT TO AT LEAST GO OVER WHAT  WE WANT TO PRESENT WE HAVE A  20 DURING. OFF.  >> IF WHAT IF THEY DON'T DO IT  THEN OUR CONVERSATION TOMORROW  WILL BE DEFICIENT IN THAT THE  CHAMBER MEMBERS WILL BE  QUESTIONING WELL OTHER PRICE.  2 ARE YOU CONSIDERING  REPRIORITIZE SO. THAT'S WHY WE  SORT OF THROUGH THE PROCESS.  >> I DON'T I DON'T I'M NOT  ARGUING WITH THAT POINT DON'T  MIND DOING ONCE WE GO THROUGH  ALL THIS STUFF. WHAT HAPPENS  DOWN THE ROAD OF IT'S STILL A  NO-GO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO  COME UP WITH 3 QUARTERS OF THE  OF THE POT ALREADY AGAIN.  THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.  >> WE HAVE TO AT LEAST GET TO  POINT THAT THEY IN THERE. YES,  IT MAY NOT TURN OUT TO HUGE  VOTERS MAY SURPRISE AND OF  COURSE. A NEW SO WHAT ARE WE  LOOKING AT TO THE MANAGER SOME  DIRECTION AFTER THE OC  PARTNERS AND WITH JUST  RECEIVED A U.S. START FROM THE  FIRST TAX WHICH SCHOOL TO  FIGHT THE NOT FIRST CALL.  >> THIS IS HOW WE HAVE  OUTLINED IT FOR YOUR  CONSIDERATION THAT WE OUT  40 MILLION DOLLARS TO BE  PROVIDED TO YOU OR BE  CONSIDERING SURTAX APPROVAL IN  THE MODEL THAT WE HAVE  PROVIDED.  >> OKAY BACK TO SPECTRUM A  LITTLE BIT DO WE NEED A MOTION  FOR THAT YOU SEE FUNDING TO BE  REDIRECTED TO WE HAVE WE ARE  PRAYING THAT BRINGING THAT TO  YOU ALREADY. NOT IT MEANT YOU  THAT HE DID. WE DIDN'T WANT TO  START THAT DECISION ABOUT  WHETHER LET UP.  >> WE DO TO GET STATE WOULD BE  LEFT COUPLE WAS ABOUT OF THE  STOCK IS ABOUT OKAY.  >> SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THE  SURTAX FOR RECONCILIATION POST  50 MILLION. WE SAID CORRESPOND  TO THAT.  >> YES HAVE THOUGHT OR IT  STARTS OF CAPITAL PROJECT  EXPENDITURES FIRE FIRST I GET  2 MORE.  >> THAT'S NUMBERS. WE'RE GOING  TO BE.  >> INVOLVES THANKS TO HIM ANY  WAY WE BRING THAT ON THE  SCREEN OR EVERYONE ELSE KNOWS  WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.  >> I DON'T KNOW WHAT TALKING  REFERENCE ENSURE EXHIBIT  THAT'S ON THE AGENDA AND IT  >> COULD YOU PLEASE PUT IT UP  ON THE SCREEN FOR THE BENEFITS  READING NOT HERE IS THANK YOU  THAT'S I CAN ONLY CONTROL THAT  THANK YOU KNOW THE PEOPLE  WATCHING CAN SEE WHAT WE'RE  TALKING  ♪ ♪ OKAY, I KNOW THAT YOU DIDN'T  CONTROL THIS COMING UP.  ♪ >> ALL RIGHT OUTSIDE  CONTRAPTION.  >> SO PROCESS DOES IT MAKE  SENSE FOR US TO GO DEPARTMENT  BY DEPARTMENT AND JUST GO  ROUND ROBIN VICE MAYOR DO YOU  SEE ANYTHING UNDER FIRE THAT  COULD BE CUT AND JUST KIND OF  GO THROUGH. JUST SUGGESTING I  DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO GET  US THROUGH THIS INFORMATION IN  THE MOST EFFICIENT EFFECTIVE  WAY.  >> I OK. YOU HAVE TO WITH THAT  COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL. THEY  ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT STORM.  >> GET YOUR FIRST STATION FOR  18. ONE 0.8 MILLION DOLLARS.  >> THAT ONE HAS SUMS SURTAX 3  CARRY OVER OF I BELIEVE 3.6  FOR 6.  >> AND I BELIEVE IT ALSO HAD A  ALTERNATE FUNDING WHICH WELL  BE DETERMINED. OF ALMOST 1.8  AS WELL.  >> SO WHEN YOU SAY CARRY OVER  EXPLAIN WHAT THAT  >> THAT'S NUMBER I SAID WE HAD  SEARCH EXTREME MONEY THAT WE  KNEW WAS GOING TO BE FLOWING  INTO THIS PLAN PART OF IT.  >> THERE IS FINISHED. AS MY  NEXT QUESTION SOMETIMES FOR  FIRST DISTRICT STATION IS 10  AWAY 5 NARRATIVE WE ARE  WORKING SEVERAL OF THE. PEOPLE  OUT THERE WITH THE CONCURRENCE  OF STATE TO FIND OUT FOR THE  IDEAL LOCATION FOR THERE'S A  POSSIBILITY THAT IRAN MAY  REQUIRE MORE THAN STATION  WORKING AS WE HAVE HABERLAND  OUT THERE BLOCK AWAY. SO  EVERYONE AWARE THE STORM FOR  US BUT FOR SPORT, SIGNIFICANT  AMOUNT WITH MUCH OF THIS WILL  KIND OF A LITTLE BIT GOT IN  BETWEEN IF YOU LOOK AT A  MASTER PLAN TO REST WITH  ACTUALLY SHOWS A STATION IN  THE STATES CHOSE A STATION OF  TO THE WAY MOST OF THE 5 SHOWS  EAST OF WHAT WE HAVE A PIECE  OF PROPERTY OUT THERE. AND  ALSO FUTURE CONSIDERATION.  THAT ARE DEVELOPED OUT EAST  WHICH LOT OF TALK ABOUT IT.  YORKSHIRE VERY INTERCHANGE  THAT'S LOOK WHAT'S  >> FORGETTING ABOUT THE  DEVELOPMENT OUT EAST FOR THE  TIME BEING SINCE THAT'S SO FAR  LATE. SOME OF US WILL BE  POPPING UP 1.8 MILLION.  >> MEADE WITHIN.  >> LIKE ALL EXISTING GROWTH  CO, THERE'S A HUGE AMOUNT OF  DEVELOPMENT GOING ON AT THAT  AREA PORT CITY EXCLUSIVE OF  WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN  ♪ BE SENTENCED 6 WITH A NEW  INTERCHANGE. DO THIS YES, AS I  STATED BEFORE SO THESE.  >> THESE ESTIMATES WERE  EXTRAPOLATED WE BUILT OUR  STATION 5 1.8 MILLION WAS WHAT  WE BELIEVED TO BE IN UNFUNDED  THEM OUT 25 THAT'S WHY  STUDENTS ARE TAXED AS WE GET  CLOSER WHICH PROBABLY IS SOON.  I WILL DO ANOTHER VIOLATION  AND SO IT'S A PROJECTS ARE  WE'RE GOING TO YOUR COST  STRUCTURE THAT WE GOT SHOW  YOU'RE A IT'S IT'S  >> PUBLIC SAFETY  COMMUNICATIONS REPLACEMENT, I  KNOW WHAT'S IN THE SECOND 5  YEAR BUT CAN TALK TO US A  LITTLE ABOUT THAT ABSOLUTELY  SO IT'S LISTED UNDER FIRE, BUT  IT'S ACTUALLY THE REASON IS  PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS WERE  FIRED AND POLICE SO YOU'LL SEE  ABOUT EVERY 10 YEARS WE  REPLACE ALL BECAUSE TECHNOLOGY  LIFESPAN EVERYTHING ELSE THAT  IS WHAT THAT. THAT NUMBER SO  TAKES COST RIOS, WE'RE  ACTUALLY IN THE PROCESS OF  DOING REPLACEMENT RIGHT SO  WILL HITTING THAT MARK WHEN  YOU LOOK AT WHAT WE HAVE NOW  WITHIN TO SPEND GROWTH.  10 MILLION PROBABLY. IT'S  NUMBERS WE CONTINUE TO GO  HOME. SO YES. ANYBODY ELSE  SORT YEAH.  >> COMMISSIONER MC DOWELL IT  JUST ROTATE AROUND GOT TO BE A  LITTLE MORE FLEXIBLE ON THIS  PROSTITUTION RING TO FOR  PUBLIC SAFETY PROJECTS JUST.  >> THINK YOU ALL KNOW THIS BUT  JUST TO SAY IT'S OF MEAT, YOU  KNOW ANY OF THESE 10 MILLION  DOLLAR FOR RADIOS. COURSE  GOING PURSUE OTHER FUNDING  OPTIONS GRANTS BUT WE HAVE TO  PLAN AND HAVE THE CASE WE  DON'T TAKE THOSE THINGS. WE  HAVE BEEN FORTUNATE PASS THE  TIME TO GRANTS FOR THINGS THAT  ARE BUDGETED AND THEN WE KIND  OF DO EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE  DOING BACK CHANNEL TABLE WITH  A FRENCH TEAM MEMBERS OF THE  OTHER DIRECTION WHAT NEEDS RUN  THAT THE CITY THIS THAT'S NOT  TO GO.  >> OKAY COMMISSIONER, RICK NOW  YES, SO THIS FUTURE FIRE  STATION FOR THE ONE 0.8  MILLION SURTAX BETWEEN 2529.  THE FIRE STATION WAS BUILT BY  THE WEST VILLAGE'S IMPROVEMENT  DISTRICT OUT WELL POP. IT WAS  A DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT THAT  IT AGREEMENT WAS THEY BUILT IT  AND WE PAY THEM BACK USING  SURTAX I'M SORRY HAVE SORT  IMPACT THAT'S WHAT I MEANT TO  SAY IMPACT FEES. WE DON'T NEED  A FIRE STATION OUT THERE. BUT  WITH THE COMING GROWTH AND  DEVELOPMENT THAT IS WHAT IS  CREATING THE NEED FOR THE FIRE  STATION. SO WHY ARE WE PONIED  UP THE MONEY INSTEAD OF THE  DEVELOPERS WERE CREATING A  PONY UP THE MONEY, YES,  THEY'RE PAYING IMPACT FEES. IF  WE CAN'T PROVIDE THAT  BUILDING, SHOULDN'T THEY BE  THE ONES TO BUILD IT AND THEN  WE REIMBURSE THEM USING THE  IMPACT FEES LIKE WE DID FOR  WANT PARK TO QUESTIONS RIGHT  QUESTION.  >> JUST YOU KNOW WE'RE IN THE  PROCESS WHEN THOSE THINGS ARE  PART COURSE WE'RE YOU THIS LOT  OF THIS IS SCHEDULING WHAT'S  AVAILABLE. HOW DOES THAT WORK  OUT RIGHT PLAN CHANGE THROUGH  MAJOR DEVELOPERS EITHER. ONE  OF THEM WAS AND WE'RE GOING TO  BE ALRIGHT. HOUSES SOME  AVAILABILITY OF THINGS THAT SO  THEY CAN'T BE HELD FROM  CERTAIN THINGS IN OUR  RESTRICTIONS SO WE'LL PROBABLY  WILL GET MUCH HELP OFFER THAT  TO PUT IT THE OTHER TO DEVELOP  MEANS AND YOU LITTLE PIECES OF  THEM COME BEFORE YOU. WE'RE  WORKING WITH BOTH THE RIGHT  NOW THE REPORT WAS TALKING  CURRENT STUDY OF CODE KOVAL  HELP THEM WITH THAT ROAD THAT  WORK IS HOW ALL THAT IN OUR  COMMITTEE AND HOW IMPACTS MUCH  THAT ALSO INCLUDES THINGS ALL  THOSE OTHER THINGS STRUCTURE.  ONCE ALL THAT IS WE SIT BACK  DOWN THROUGH THE PLANNING OF  OUR PARTNERS PORTMAN BUILDING  LATER RAISED BEEN REALLY  GREAT. HE SAID GOING START  TALKING ABOUT. HOW CAN  CONSTRUCT THIS. YOU KNOW IN A  MANNER THAT WORKS FOR  EVERYBODY WE. THEM HELPING US  DOES NOT ALLEVIATE OUR  RESPONSIBILITY PUT. ALTHOUGH  NOT REALLY SOMETHING WHERE WE  CAN SAY IT YOU HAVE TO GIVE US  SOME OUT I THINK LEANS YOU'RE  SOMEWHERE THIS UP HERE. CHANGE  DOESN'T LEAVE THE HOUSE FIRST  PASS PLAN IF WE ARE ABLE TO  WORK SOMETHING OUT WITH THEM  AND SAY WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE  PUTS A LITTLE AHEAD OF TIME  PLANS WERE ASKED FOR SOME ARE  YOU ABLE TO DO THESE THINGS SO  THAT WE CAN IMPROVE YOUR  PROJECT A WHOLE LOT OF. WE  JACKET WITH FACILITATE THE  PROCESS. CAN ALLOW THAT YOU  KNOW I CAN SAY WEST VILLAGES.  ONE OF THE THINGS WAS THAT ALL  ONE MARK PROJECT UNDER ONE  LARGE DEVELOPERS AND ONE  PERSON SAT DOWN. BECAUSE YOU  RIGHT NOW WE'RE DEALING WITH  MULTIPLE DIFFERENT PROJECT  ANDERSON THERE. LITTLE HARDER  TO BUT WE ARE WORKING WITH TO  TRY I COMMISSIONER WE CANNOT  REQUIRE THE DEVELOPERS.  >> TO PROVIDE THAT FUNDING  MECHANISM FOR REQUIRED TO PAY  IMPACT FEES AND THE DEVELOPERS  THE WEST VILLAGES HAVE AGREED  TO ESSENTIALLY BUILD THIS AND  BE PAID BACK ON THE BACK FACT  IS THAT WE CANNOT LEGALLY  REQUIRE IF THEY UNDERSTAND THE  IMPORTANCE OF GETTING THESE  THESE BUILDINGS AND THE  SERVICES IN PLACE SOONER AND  FASTER AND WANT TO AGREE AS  THE CHIEF SAID TO WORK WITH US  THAT'S THAT'S FANTASTIC AND  BUT WE WORK TOWARD PARTNERSHIP  LEGALLY WE CAN'T QUITE A  FINANCE DIRECTOR JUST MUCH AND  THANK YOU VERY MUCH SO ARE  ABOUT FEES FOR.  >> RIGHT NOW WE DO COLLECT  SEPARATE IMPACT FEES PARTS IT  WAS SET UP A LONG TIME REST  FOR IMPACT 3 STRIKES AND  YOU'RE QUICK A LOT OF THOSE  IMPACT FEES STARTED AS A PET  TEACHER OR COMMIT 4. SOME OF  THE PROJECTS YOU'RE SEEING  FROM SOME PROPERTY TAX OR TAX  IN FACT COME A HALF. FOR SO.  CAN COUNTRY.  >> AS A FOLLOW UP SINCE YOU  MENTIONED THE DRI OTHER THAT.  RULES THAT THEY HAVE TO FALL  BECAUSE IT WAS APPROVED SO  LONG ABOUT WELL THEY STILL  HAVE TO PAY IMPACT FEES BASED  ON TODAY'S RATES.  >> NOT SURE THAT CREATE A  STILL PAY IMPACT FEES ON  TODAY'S RIGHT THE RATE AT TIME  THAT THEY DEVELOP.  >> THAT MARSHA CORRECT  SOMETHING CHIEF.  >> I WAS TALKING ABOUT A  MOMENT AGO.  >> THE.  >> WHAT ARE THE PROJECTED  STATIONS IN THAT AREA. ONE OF  THE REASONS YOU CAN'T REQUIRE  THE DEVELOPER TO PAY THE FULL  COST OF THAT IS BECAUSE THOSE  STATIONS WILL SERVE OTHER  DEVELOPMENT AS WELL THERE'S A  LOT OF PRE PLATTED THAT ARE  BEING BUILT THAT. TO SERVE THE  SURVIVAL STATIONS, SO AS AS  THIS IT RESET RECHARGE IMPACT  FEES IF OUR IMPACT FEES ARE  NOT ENOUGH. 2. COMPENSATE FOR  THAT RIGHT THEN THAT IS  OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING LOOK AT.  >> I'M NOT COMFORTABLE MOVING  THIS ARE CHANGING THIS. BUT  WILL MOVE FORWARD.  >> YEAH, I WOULD JUST SAY I  DON'T SEE ANYTHING ON THIS  LIST THAT I WOULD BE  COMFORTABLE COMING TODAY.  >> MOVING DOWN. WE PARKS AND  REC.  ♪ ♪ WE NEED TO SWITCH SWITCHES  RIGHT EYE. THANK YOU CHIEF.  WHAT'S A SWITCH REPLACEMENT  ELLIS, THE QUESTION. WE'RE ON  UN SUMMIT GOOD WILL.  >> ALL THINGS COMPUTERS AND  INTO THE WALL BACK TO THE  SWITCHES. THE SWITCH IS GO  DOWN A SECTION OF THE BUILDING  OR A BOWL AND THE TIMING THE  SUPPORT. THIS IS TYPICAL 5  YOUR REPLACEMENT FOR  >> THAT'S MORE LIKE ARE  >> IT'S WE'VE GOT REPLACE IT  BECAUSE IT WEARS OUT THANK YOU  COMES OBSOLETE. COMES UP SO  LATE. I'M NOT COMFORTABLE  CHANGING. THE SOUTH. YOU THE  PARKS ARE SNOW ASK A QUESTION.  IN THE BOTTOM THE SURTAX LIST  IT SAYS REMOVE PARKS  AMENITIES, IT'S NOT SURTAX  ELIGIBLE TO PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY  IT'S NOT SURTAX I WAS BOWLED  WHY WASN'T SURTAX ELIGIBLE  WHEN THIS LIST WAS FIRST  PRESENTED TO US.  >> YES WE'VE BEEN FINDING THAT  THE THAT WHAT THEY'VE BEEN  PURCHASING FOR THAT DID NOT  MEET THE THRESHOLD OF 5 YEARS,  USEFUL LIFE AND THE IN  INFRASTRUCTURE IN LAST FISCAL  YEAR IT WAS MOVED TO THE  GENERAL FUND. AND OUT OF  SURTAX SO WE JUST TAKING IT  OUT OF THE SURTAX FOR PLAN.  KNOWING THAT IT WILL NOT BE  ELIGIBLE FOR IT.  >> SO WHAT AMENITIES ARE BEING  PURCHASED THAT DON'T LAST 5  YEARS.  >> INFANT PARKS AND RECREATION  IT'S NOT JUST SO THEY DON'T  LAST 5 YEARS. THAT'S GOING  DEPEND ON NEWS AND WEATHER.  MAINTENANCE OF THOSE ITEMS BUT  THERE ITEMS LIKE THE GRILLS  THAT YOU SEE IN THE PARK THE  BENCHES PICNIC TABLES. LIKE  THAT MEAN REPLACEMENT FROM  WEAR AND TEAR.  >> AND NOT THE JUNGLE GYMS  KNOW THAT EVERYTHING EVERYONE  I WOULD GET FUNDED IN THE  FUTURE THEN.  >> IF PARK AMENITIES HAVE BEEN  MOVED TO GENERAL THAT'S WHERE.  IT WAS BUDGETED THIS YEAR  THERE WE HAVE IT OR IN THANK  YOU FOR THAT.  >> ANYTHING  >> WELL JUST START WITH  BIGGEST FIRST MOVED OUT. TO  HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT. NEW  COMMUNITY CENTER. 7 AND A HALF  MILLION DOLLARS IN FISCAL 3530  NIGHTS WITH TAIL END OF THE  SURTAX PERIOD. OBVIOUSLY.  SOMETHING THAT ESPECIALLY  EASE. IT WOULD BE NICE TO  HAVE. THE QUESTION IS.  APPRECIATING THAT. IT HAS  VALUE. LET'S START THERE.  >> CREATIVE WAYS. TO PROVIDE.  THIS AMENITY. WITH THE HELP  HAVING TO TOUCH THE 7 AND A  HALF MILLION OR PARTNERSHIPS  OR THEIR RELATIONSHIPS ARE  THERE OUT OF THE BOX  APPROACHES THAT MAY ALLOW US  TO FREE UP TO 7.5 MILLION AND  IF NOT THEY ARE WE PREPARED TO  BITE THE BULLET ON THIS ON ITS  FACE AND SAY 7 AND A HALF  MILLION SHOULD BE SET ASIDE TO  HELP WITH POLICE HEADQUARTERS  AND THIS JUST BECOMES A BACK  BURNER PROJECT THAT'S REALLY  THE QUESTION I MEAN WE ALL  KNOW WE'D LIKE TO HAVE YOU  KNOW ANOTHER COMMUNITY CENTER  AND I DON'T DISCOUNT THE VALUE  OF IT AT ALL. I'M WONDERING  WITH THE GROWTH AND  DEVELOPMENT OUT THAT AREA THAT  REJECTED WHILE WE CAN NOT  REQUIRED. OUR DEVELOPMENT  PARTNERS TO TO DO THE STENCH  WE SEE IN TOLEDO WE HAVE  DEVELOP OR BUILDING A 20 ACRE  PARK. WILL BE AVAILABLE TO OUR  CITIZENS. AND THEY WILL  MAINTAIN IT. IS THERE PERHAPS  THE ABILITY. A PARTNER CAN'T  TAKE IT TO THE BANK BUT IT'S  AN APPROACH WHEREBY WE MAY  STILL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE LEVEL  OF A MANATEE OUT THE SUN. AND  NOT HAVE TO GET A LICENSE OR  TAX MONEY FOR NEW SOME KINDS  OF TOUGH DECISIONS. IT'S IT'S  LET'S FACE IT. SO WHILE IT'S  NOT IN NEED. MAYBE IT IS A BIT  OF A NEED.  >> THEY THE BEST NEXT ON THE  LIST SO I'LL JUST YEAH, JUST  AS A GENERAL COMMENT WHEN I  LOOKED AT LIST FOR PARKS AND  REC ANYTHING THAT'S  MAINTENANCE OF WHAT WE HAVE I  WOULDN'T TOUCH. BUT. SANDY AND  I HAVE HAD LOTS OF  COMMUNICATIONS IN THE PAST  OVER ANOTHER COMMUNITY CENTER  AND TO SORT OF VICE MAYOR'S  COMMENTS. I THINK THERE ARE A  POTENTIALLY MANY WAYS TO SKIN  THAT CAT. WE WHY GOING ON  TOLEDO BLADE NEAR THE  INTERSECTION WITH PRICE THAT  WILL SATISFY SOME NOT ALL. BUT  WILL PROVIDE SOME OF  RECREATIONAL FUNCTIONS THAT WE  TYPICALLY LOOK TO A COMMUNITY  CENTER TO PROVIDE. AND OUR  CONVENTION MEETING THE KIDS  CAME UP WITH A GREAT CONCEPT  FOR A COMMUNITY CENTER OUT  EAST USING MORE AGAIN AS A  MODEL. I'M EVEN SO TO ABOUT  THAT I LOVE WHAT WE'RE DOING  WITH THE MORGAN CENTER BUT  ANOTHER WAY OF SATISFYING THAT  NEED LET'S SAY THERE'S A HIGH  SCHOOL OUT THERE WE WANT TO DO  SOMETHING NEAR THAT HIGH  SCHOOL FOR THE WE CAN PARTNER  WITH A NONPROFIT WHO DOES TEEN  CENTERS CAN SORT OF FILL THAT  NEED SO I THINK AND ARE  FORWARD PLANNING. WE NEED TO  GET CREATIVE. COMMISSIONER  MCDOWELL USES THE TERM OUT OF  THE BOX I THINK HISTORICALLY  BECAUSE PEOPLE WEREN'T COMING  HERE AND IF WE DIDN'T DO IT  WOULDN'T HAPPEN. BUT THAT'S  CHANGING AND SO I THINK WE  NEED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF OUR  MOMENTUM. AND REALLY THINK  ABOUT OTHER WAYS TO PROVIDE TO  THE NEEDS OF RESIDENTS THROUGH  COMMERCIAL ENDEAVORS AND NOT  NECESSARILY GOVERNMENT  PROJECTS AND AND THIS IS ONE  OF I JUST REALLY WOULD HELP  THAT WE COULD COME UP WITH  ANOTHER WAY OF COVERING THOSE  BASES THAT WOULDN'T REQUIRE  MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR  CONSTRUCTION. AND THE OTHER  THING TO KEEP IN MIND BY  DESIGN OUR COMMUNITY CENTER  ABOUT A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS  A YEAR AND THAT COMES OUT OF  THE GENERAL FUND SO THESE ARE  ALL THINGS WE NEED TO KEEP IN  AS WE MOVE FORWARD SO THAT IS  AN ITEM THAT I WOULD TAKE OFF  THE LIST. ALRIGHT WOULD WE  PRIORITIZE IT. AND THEN A  FUTURE A CONVERSATION WHEN  COMES UP BINDING AND I DON'T  KNOW THE 24 DAYS DECADE UP. I  LET'S STAY WITH THAT AND THE  SECOND BUDDY ELSE FILL UP  >> I HAVE MY OR MA'AM WORKED  OUT.  >> THIS COMMUNITY CENTER OUT  EAST HAS TALKED ABOUT KICKED  DOWN THE ROAD TALKED ABOUT  KICKED DOWN THE TALKED ABOUT  AND KICKED DOWN THE ROAD FOR  PROBABLY 20 TEAMS.  >> AND WE WE HAVE A  RESPONSIBILITY TO THE  TAXPAYERS TO NOT ONLY HAVE A  POLICE STATION.  >> AND I'M NOT DISPUTING THAT  IT'S IMPORTANT BUT WE ALSO  HAVE TO DO A COMMUNITY CENTER  OUT EAST THEY HAVE BEEN  SCREAMING FOR COMMUNITY CENTER  OUT EAST. AND IF IF WE GIVE  THE LAND AND WE GIVE UP THE  COMMUNITY CENTER WITH THE HOPE  AND THE PIPE DREAM THAT  SOMEBODY ELSE IS GOING TO  BUILD IT'S NOT GOING HAPPEN  ANY TIME SOON.  >> I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF  REMOVING THE COMMUNITY CENTER  FUNDING OUT EAST BECAUSE WE  DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT'S GOING  LOOK LIKE.  >> THEY MAY COME FORWARD AND  SAY HEY WE'RE GOING TO BUILD  IT, BUT WE WANT SOME BUY-IN  FROM THE CITY SIMILAR TO WHAT  HAPPENED IN ST. SEE WHEN THE  CITY SAID HEY, LET'S PUT A  CONFERENCE IN OR OUT THERE.  AND THE CITY PAID FOR SOME OF  THAT COST IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY  MONEY. WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE  THE PROJECT. QUESTION.  >> POLICE  >> STATION HEADQUARTERS.  IMPERATIVE WIVES SAFETY.  COMMUNITY CENTER. HERE'S YOUR  CHOICE. 7 AND A HALF MILLION  DOLLARS IF WE CAN'T FIND A WAY  TO TAKE IF WE CAN'T FIND A WAY  REALLOCATE THIS 7 A HALF  MILLION THAT'S SCHEDULED 35TH  FISCAL 35 TO 39. AND PUT IT IN  THE BUCKET TO HELP PAY FOR  POLICE HEADQUARTERS. WE MIGHT  AS TODAY NOTHING ELSE ON THIS  LIST THAT'S EASIER TO  REALLOCATE. IN MY IN MY  PERSONAL OPINION. WE MIGHT AS  WELL JUST RAISE THE MILLAGE  RATE 20% BECAUSE ULTIMATELY.  ULTIMATELY THERE ARE ONLY 2  PLACES 522 MILLION DOLLAR  POLICE STATION. LET'S NOT  FORGET WITH EVERY SINGLE ITEM  ON THIS LIST WE TALK ABOUT.  YOU CAN EITHER RAISE RATES AND  PROPERTY TAX PAY FOR. WEEKEND  SQUEEZE THE JUICE. JUST  CERTAIN TAX LIST. THAT'S THE  HARD DECISION WE'VE GOT TO  MAKE NOT SAYING WHICH IS RIGHT  WHICH LAW, I'M JUST SAYING  SLICED IF WE TELL PEOPLE WE'RE  GOING THEM TO RAISE MILLAGE  RATE WHETHER IT'S A PERCENT  15% OR WE'RE GOING TO GO OUT  AND SPEND JUST DO IT. TO THE  EXTENT WE REPRIORITIZE SUR TAX  DOLLARS WE MITIGATE THAT  AMOUNT WHICH MAKES IT. A  LITTLE MORE POWERFUL FOR  CITIZENS TO PERHAPS SWALLOW.  YOU KNOW TRY TO INCREASE  BECAUSE IF THEY SAY NO. TO  THIS REFERENDUM. I MISS 122  BECOMES 150. THERE'S NO  GUARANTEE THAT EVEN ON THE  SECOND GO-AROUND WILL BE  APPROVED AGAIN AND IT'S  200 MILLION. AND MEANWHILE A  PUBLIC SAFETY SUMMER I  APPRECIATE. THE FACT THAT THE  COMMUNITY CENTER'S EXTREMELY  VALUABLE THING AND SOMETHING  OUR CITIZENS FOR 20 YEARS OF  FOR DO THEY WANT PUBLIC  SAFETY. ESPECIALLY WITH ALL  THE GROWTH POTENTIAL AREA OR  CITY OR DO THEY WANT COMMUNITY  CENTER. THAT'S THAT'S STILL  BELOW WE'VE GOT LIKE ICE.  >> THANK YOU FOR THAT LET ME  GO TO COMMISSIONER AND RICH IF  YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD.  COMMISSIONER EMRICH YOU KNOW  I.  >> I ALREADY PLUGGED LIE FACE  THERE TO SPEAK SO THAT'S WHY  HAVE TO INTERRUPT, NO I MEAN,  BUT WHEN WE'VE GONE THROUGH  ALL THE SURTAX MEETINGS AND  STUFF LIKE THAT. IT'S IT'S  DONE SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE  POSTPONED THIS AT OTHER WE  PUSHED DOWN THE ROAD AND WE  KEEP PUSHING HIM DOWN THE  ROAD. AND IT SEEMS TO BE  SOMETHING THAT IS ALWAYS  CONSTANTLY HAPPENING ONE  ANOTHER MAJOR PROJECT COMES  UP. AND I HAVE TO AGREE WITH  COMMISSIONER STOKES WHEN IT  COMES DOWN TO WHAT YOU NEED A  COMMUNITY CENTER OR APD WELL,  YES, THE PD IS DEFINITELY A  NEED A COMMUNITY CENTER IS  ALSO NEED IN CERTAIN AREAS  WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE. AREA FOR  POPULACE TO GO TO INVEST AND  MEET THEIR NEIGHBORS AND  STUFF. IT'S JUST IT'S NOT IN  OUR WINDOW RIGHT NOW WITH THE  MONEYS THAT WE HAVE. AND ONE  OF THE BIGGEST THINGS FOR  THEIR SPEEDY THAT WE'VE LOOKED  AT I'M TRYING TO FIND FUNDING  FOR IT HAS GOING AFTER THE  ASSETS OF PARKS AND  RECREATION. COMMUNITY CENTER  YEAH THAT COULD BE ONE BUT  WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT AREAS OF  ASSETS WE COULD TO COME UP  WITH THIS PD YOU KNOW YOU'VE  GOT CITIZENS OUT THERE THAT  JUST LOVE OUR PARKS AND RECS  AREA AND EVERYTHING THAT THEY  DO PARTS SO WERE TAKEN FROM  ONE TO GIVE TO ANOTHER. WE  NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN  HAVE AS MUCH OF EVERYTHING IS  POSSIBLE. WITH GOOD REASON.  AND THAT'S WHY WHEN WE TALK  ABOUT THE. APD STATION WE  TALKED ABOUT GOING OUT TO THE  65 YEAR PLAN OR 25 YEAR PLAN  OR WHATEVER I MENTIONED BEFORE  THE MEETING IF WE DOWNSIZED IT  CAN GO TO 100 MILLION DOLLAR  PLAN AND PREPARED. THE  BUILDING IN THE DESIGN LIKE WE  DID OVER AT THE MORGAN CENTER  WE STOP DOWN EVERYTHING OVER  THERE TO PUT IN OTHER  AMENITIES AS IT CAME ON BOARD,  LET'S GET TO THE 100 BILLION  DOLLAR PROJECT WILL STOP OUT  WHERE THEY COULD BE ADDED ON  WITHIN THE NEXT 5.10 YEARS.  IT'S JUST A COMPROMISE FOR  NOW, BUT AT LEAST THE MAIN  PICTURE STILL IN FOCUS. BUT WE  CAN CONTINUE TO GO THROUGH A  LOT OF THESE THINGS AND SAY NO  I'M NOT GOING TO PULL THAT  WE'VE ALREADY DONE THAT WE'VE  ALREADY THROUGH ALL AND I  DON'T WANT TO PULL THAT  BECAUSE X Y Z. IT'S JUST VERY  TOUGH, IT'S A TOUGH TO SAY  THAT I UNDERSTAND THAT AND I  JUST WANT TO PUT THIS IS OUT  OF WE'VE DONE WE CAN DO IT  AGAIN I GOT NO ISSUES WITH  THAT BUT I KNOW WHEN YOU WHEN  I'M SITTING BACK LISTENING IS  LIKE NO BUDGETS WERE CUT MATT  IDEAL SUPPORT CUT OKAY, WELL  WHY ARE WE TRYING TO CUT IN  THE FIRST PLACE AND WE CAN SO  I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT  OTHER AVENUES AS WELL AS AND  THE MEETING TOMORROW IS A HUGE  MEETING WAS WAS THE CHAMBER TO  SEE WHAT THEIR FEELINGS ARE.  AND THEN WE CAN GET UP  PROSPECTIVE CAN GET WITH STAFF  AND SAY HEY HOW DO WE GO  FORWARD FROM THIS WHAT WE NEED  TO REALLY REALLY LOOK AT AND  THEN MAKING A VERY ADVANCED  PLANNING ON IT THAT'S JUST MY  $0.2 THANK YOU FOR THAT  MATTER.  >> JUST THANKS FOR YES, IF I  YES A COUPLE OF THE PROJECTS.  I WOULD SAY THE NEW COMMUNITY  CENTER IS NOT SOMETHING THAT  SHOULD BE CUT. WITH THE AMOUNT  OF FAMILIES AND CHILDREN THAT  ARE MOVING INTO THAT AREA  ALREADY IN NEED RIGHT NOW AND  WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 3539.  >> THE COMMUNITY CENTER IS  GOING TO SERVE A AREA OF  SERVICE AND SOME OF THE OTHER  THINGS THAT ARE ON THIS LIST  THINK MASTER PLAN. WE'VE  ACTUALLY INTENDED TO COME FOR  THE RECOMMENDATION TO NOT MOVE  FORWARD WITH ANY MORE CASES OF  THAT OFF IT. ONE BECAUSE OF  THE DAMAGE THAT WE EXPERIENCED  DURING THE HURRICANE. WE ARE  STILL WORKING ON REPLACING  THOSE BUT THERE. THERE'S NOT  AN EASY WAY TO REMOVE THOSE TO  PREPARE FOR. HURRICANE THAT'S  COMING. TO ADD MORE. LAUNCHES.  DOESN'T REALLY MAKE SENSE AND  IT DID CAUSE. I DID BIT OF A  YOU KNOW, I'M JUST FOR PUBLIC  WORKS WHEN THEY AND GOT STUCK  IN THE WATER ALL. SO SO WE  WOULD RECOMMEND NOT MOVING  FORWARD WITHOUT. SECOND AND  3RD SPLASH PAD. THOSE CAME OUT  OF OUR OUR MASTER PLAN HAVE 10  YEAR MASTER PLAN. WELL, I  THINK THOSE ARE AMENITIES, YOU  KNOW THAT QUALITY OF LIFE  AMENITIES THAT WE SHOULD HAVE  THROUGHOUT THE CITY. I DON'T  THINK THAT THAT'S IN  BANDSHELL OUTDOOR AMPHITHEATER  AGAIN THAT WAS A. THE MASTER  PLAN KNOW IT'S ALSO I THINK  ALWAYS PLAN FOR CITY WITH THAT  WAS THAT THERE WOULD BE  AMPITHEATER OUT THERE THAT  AGAIN IS NOT GOING MAKE AS  MUCH OF A BENEFIT AS A  COMMUNITY CENTER AND I THINK  WE COULD GET A DEVELOPER TO DO  THAT. TENNIS COURT AND  PICKLEBALL COMPLEX. THAT HAS  ASKED FOR IN MANY OF OUR  SURVEYS, THE COMMUNITY NEEDS  SERVICE THAT WE DO. AGAIN IS  THAT SOMETHING THAT A PRIVATE.  DEVELOPER COULD COME IN AND  PROVIDE IT'S VERY POSSIBLE. I  WOULD SAY OUT THEIR BASKETBALL  COURTS. THOSE COULD BE  INCORPORATED INTO THE  COMMUNITY CENTER TO SERVE THAT  SIDE TELL AND THEN THE RIVER  ROAD, A REGIONAL PARK SPORTS  COMPLEX IN THAT'S BEEN AN  ONGOING CONVERSATION. NOTHING  HAS BEEN DECIDED YOU KNOW THAT  MAY BE ANOTHER AREA WHERE YOU  WANT TO CALL TIME. BUT I  WOULD. IOWA SUGGEST WE KEEP  THAT COMMUNITY CENTER AND  THERE I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE  WELL YOU PROVIDE ACTIVITIES  FOR THE KIDS AFTER SCHOOL. I'M  IT'S HELPING KEEP THEM OFF THE  STREETS AND AND BUSY AND  OCCUPIED AND NOT GETTING INTO.  TROUBLE IN OTHER PLACES.  >> I THANKS FOR THAT YOU'RE IN  BUT BUT YOU DIDN'T FINISH WHAT  SORRY THE OBSERVATION THAT THE  MYAKKA TO CREATE PART OF THAT  WOULD BE ADDING A SECONDARY I  THAT THAT'S NEEDED RIGHT. I  WAS GOING TO BRING THAT UP  ITSELF ANYWAY, AND SOME OF  THIS COULD POTENTIALLY BE PAID  FOR WITH PARK IMPACT FEES.  >> I THINK WHEN WE LOOK AT THE  SALES THERE WAS ABOUT 1.6  MILLION AVAILABLE. SO IT'S NOT  GOING FOR ALL OF THESE  PROJECTS BUT FOR SOMEONE THAT  WE FEEL AS A PRIORITY THE PARK  IMPACT FEES MAY BE THE ROUTE  TO GO.  >> ALL RIGHT AND ECHOING WHAT.  >> VICE MAYOR SAID IT'S EITHER  GOING WE'RE GOING TO FIND  PROJECTS TO CUT AND FIND THE  MONEY OR IT'S GOING TO BE A  MILLAGE RATE INCREASE IS GOING  TO BE ONE OF THE OTHER MAKE  THOSE THOSE DECISIONS.  SOMETHING TAKING NOTES ON ON  WHAT THE DIRECTOR JUST SAID  ABOUT I DID THOSE THINGS THAT  CAN AND I I COULD YOU ADD UP  THE NUMBERS, VICE MAYOR  BECAUSE I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO  FOR THANK  >> OKAY I HAVE HIGHER. YEAH 2  EVERY FOR LITTLE OVER  4 MILLION OR 3.  >> THAT'S PLAYED 7.50 SPLASH  PAD 1 BILLION. AND  >> I RESPECT A ROAD LESS THAN  NOW.  >> THAT'S WHAT SOME  >> RIVER ROAD PROJECT 9 ORDER.  SCHOOL BASEBALL QUARTER. YEAH,  IT'S A 200 AND FOR THEATER TO  50 SPLASH PAD 1 MILLION 50  CANAL CREEK. AND 2 MILLION  OBSERVATION THAT. THAT 7. SO  WHAT IS ABOUT  >> CLOSE ENOUGH. I SUGGEST WE  MOVE ON OK I WOULD BE OK WITH  THOSE OTHER CUTS AND LEAD THE  COMMUNITY CENTER FROM THAT.  >> ALL RIGHT LET'S MOVE ON  >> DEVELOPMENTS I JUST ONE I'M  SORRY I'M JUST WITH THE  MINERAL SPRINGS MASTER PLAN  IMPLEMENTATION 5 MILLION IN  THAT 30 TO 34. I KNOW I HAVE  BEEN AND I THINK OTHER MEMBERS  OF THIS COMMISSION HAVE BEEN  VERY CLEAR THAT WE DON'T WANT  TO SPEND ANY MORE TAX MONEY IS  ON WOMAN RODE SPRINGS. SO IN  MY BOOK THAT WOULD BE UP FOR  GRABS. WHAT AM I MISSING.  >> IT IS NOTHING IS IS THAT  5 MILLION PART OF. 8 AND A  HALF MILLION WE'RE TALKING  ABOUT AS FAR AS PUTTING IN  BATHROOMS AND ALL KNOW THIS IS  AS IS WARM MINERAL SPRINGS  LEGACY TRAIL EXTENSION  TRAILHEAD.  >> SO LAKERS WHO TRAILED  SESSION THAT IS FOR THE ONE  MILE CONNECTION THAT IS NEEDED  FROM WHERE IT STANDS CURRENTLY  GREAT TO WARM MINERAL SPRINGS  PARK AND THEN ALSO THE ACTUAL  TRAILHEAD WHICH IS RUSHED  MINERAL SPRINGS, SO IF WE WERE  TO CONTRIBUTE LAND ON IN  MINERAL SPRINGS.  >> FOR THAT TRAILHEAD AND  LEGACY TRAIL COUNTY AND  ♪ ANY OTHER POLLS OF GROUPS.  OPENING UP THE REST THAT THAT  MIGHT  ♪ SAVE US. 925,000 PLUS THE  5 MILLION WHICH. THEY WOULD WE  WOULD WANT TO SPEND GOING DO  THAT AND ON WOULD HAVE TO  DON'T. IT HAS COUNTY. I HAVE  THAT RIGHT.  >> BUT FOR THE LEGACY TRAILS  FOR BIG THEY COULD DONATE IT  TO THE CITY'S WORST THEY MAKE  THROUGH THE CITY PROPERTY, BUT  THEY CERTAINLY COULD DONATE  MONEY OR STIGMA. UP TO  13 MILLION UP ACTIONS.  >> THERE I'VE HAD MY LIGHT ON  TO AND EVERYBODY SEEMS TO BE  JUST IN PUTTING THEIR  INFORMATION AND THEIR  OPINIONS. IF THAT'S HOW IT'S  GOING TO I WILL REMOVE MY LIFE  JUST INTERJECT MY UNIONS AT  THE SAME TIMES EVERYBODY OUT  THAT WE WERE JUST ON THE SAME  IT'S NOT THAT I YOU CALLED ON  THEM TO SPEAK. TRIAL I AM NOT  IN FAVOR OF REMOVING ANY OF  THAT MONEY. WE HAVE WE HAVE  BEEN TALKING ABOUT CREATING  THAT TRAILHEAD AT WARM MINERAL  SPRINGS, THIS IS 15 YEARS OUT.  AND I UNDERSTAND COMMISSIONER  VICE MAYOR THAT THIS IS. THE  PRIORITY IS THE NORTH PORT  POLICE DEPARTMENT HEADQUARTERS  AND THE E E O BUT I WILL BE  POINTING NOTE FOR THE RECORD  WAS SUCH PRIORITY HOW COME WE  NEVER MADE THIS SURTAX A LIST.  >> TO BE SO.  >> SO GREAT HEAR YOU CORRECTLY  BEEN YOU PREFER TO LIKE NOT  FEEL THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS  THAT PLAISTOW PUTTING WORDS,  I'M I'M PUTTING IN SKIN THE  POLICE SUCH WAS A PRIORITY AND  WE ALREADY HAVE ESTABLISHED IT  WAS A PRIORITY TO DO NOT MAKE  CHILDREN NOT VIEW IT'S A  QUESTION THAT IS FAIR TO ASK I  WOULD TO BECAUSE I HAVE MANY  CITIZENS HAVE BEEN ASKING I  HAVE MANY.  >> ENTITIES THAT HAVE VERY  INVOLVED WITH GETTING SURTAX  PAST AND THEN WE'VE GOT TO  KNOW THIS CANCER.  >> WHAT IF ASSUME THAT IT  SHOULD HAVE BEEN.  >> I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHY WASN'T  THANK YOU. MAYOR AND ASKING  STAFF FOR THE ANSWER.  >> SO ALL OF THIS WITHOUT THE  SIDE OF THIS PROJECT TALK  ABOUT IT. LAST SUMMER WAS WE  GOT GOING TO GET TO THE PLAN  1, TO 200 MILLION DOLLARS YOU  KNOW THAT TIME THE IT WAS NOT  GOING CHANGE THE SURTAX ARE.  >> NO WAY WE COULD EASILY BIG  THING THE 44 PART THAT TO  HAPPEN.  >> MILLION DOLLAR PROJECT IS  VERY FOR THROUGH. REFERENDUM  BECAUSE OF ITS SIZE. WE'RE.  THAT'S WHY WITH  >> FOR MILITARY VOTE A  REFERENDUM FOR BOND.  >> ON VI MILEAGE AND INCREASED  PROPERTY TAX. AND IN ORDER TO.  FACT THAT THE CITY MORE OF OUR  RESTRICTIONS MOST OF THE  PLACES. IT IS SERIOUS PLOT BUT  EVEN THAT BEING A LOT PORT  CITY OF. IS TO OR TEXT WOULD  YOU DO 3RD OF YOUR SURTAX OVER  TWO-YEAR PERIOD AND THANK YOU  FOR SAYING THAT BECAUSE TO  VICE MAYOR'S POINT IF THE ELC  AND THE NORTH PORT POLICE  DEPARTMENT HEADQUARTERS IS  SUCH A HUGE PRIORITY THEN  MAYBE THE DISCUSSION SHOULD BE  JUST REMIND VERY QUICKLY TO  CUT THE PROJECT'S DEFUND THE  PROJECTS AND CREATING THE  WHOLE 122 MILLION SURTAX.  >> SO SO WE'RE SITTING HERE  WE'RE SAYING THIS IS IMPORTANT  THAT'S WE HAVE TO DO THIS WE  HAVE TO DO THAT WHO ARE WE  NEED TO REALLY BE ABLE TO SAY  WHAT IS NECESSARY AND  IMPORTANT. EVERYBODY IS SAYING  POLICE DEPARTMENT THIS IS THE  MOST IMPORTANT THING NEVER  MADE THAT LIST.  >> JUST BLOWS MY TO YOUR POINT  WHAT YOU SAY IS IT'S  ABSOLUTELY CAISSON. AND THE  REALITY WHETHER WAS ON THE  LIST OR NOT IT NOW FACES A  REALITY THAT IS A NEED THAT'S  THERE. SO THE QUESTION IS WE  TRY TO FUND I DO STATION OF.  EVERYTHING NON PROPERTY TAX  RELATED WHEREBY IN SURTAX IT'S  PAID FOR NOT JUST PROPERTY  OWNERS BUT AS I'VE SAID BEFORE  VISITORS RENTERS PEOPLE WHO  SPEND IN THE COUNTY SPEND  ANYWHERE IN THE DO WE PUT THIS  122 MILLION DOLLAR BIRD. ALL  PROPERTY OWNERS. RATE INCREASE  WHICH HISTORICALLY HAVE THESE  KINDS OF PROJECTS ARE PAYING  SO THAT'S REALLY THE QUESTION  ISN'T A REAL EASY ANSWER TO  IT. AND WHO IS LEFT WITH THE  RESPONSIBILITY MAKE DECISION  IT'S IT'S THE OF WE HAVE TO DO  SO.  >> HOW WE WANT TO DO IT THE  EASY WAY WOULD BE TO SAY THAT  THESE PROJECTS THAN A HANDFUL  OF THEM THAT EACH DEPARTMENT  IT MIGHT BE WILLING TO  SACRIFICE WILL RESCHEDULE  OTHER THAN THAT WILL COME UP  SIGNIFICANTLY SHORT TO THE  POINT WHERE THAT 35 MILLION IN  THE ORIGINAL 50 IN 35 WILL BE  MORE LIKE 60 70 MILLION WHICH  WILL BE IF YOU TRANSLATED  ABOUT 15% MILLAGE RATE  INCREASE. WAS PREPARED TO GO  WELL TO THE REPUBLICAN WILL  WIN MANY ASK FOR THAT. MAY.  >> MISHA LINE DIDN'T ANSWER.  THE SO.  >> YEAH, I HAVE NOTHING MORE  TO ADD ON THIS I JUST REALLY  DO WANT TO COMPLIMENT  DIRECTIVE PFUNDHELLER FOR  COMING HERE PREPARED WITH  THOSE PROJECTS THAT SHE FOUND  COULD BE. DELAYED OR CANCELED  AND THOSE THAT COULD AND I  REALLY APPRECIATE YOU DOING  THAT. A BACKUP THE COMMUNITY  CENTER. SO OK KEEP THAT IN AND  I WOULD ACCEPT ALL OF THE  DIRECTORS RECOMMENDATIONS OF  OTHER THINGS THAT COULD BE  DELAYED.  >> THAT WAS A WAY 12 MILLION 9  AND A QUARTER OF GAME WE'RE  NOT PULLING ANYTHING WE'RE  GETTING ANYTHING WE'RE JUST  SAYING LIKE YEAH WE DO THAT.  >> I SINCE YOU HAD YOUR YOUR  SAY A OF VICE COMMISSIONER  MCDOWELL.  >> YEAH, I'M  >> THIS LIST.  >> WAS PART OF THE VOTERS  APPROVAL FOR PASSING SURTAX.  >> WE ARE.  >> CHANGING THE SURTAX LIST.  TO ACCOMMODATE THE PD AND E E  O C BECAUSE THAT IS AN  ABSOLUTE NEED OF THE NOW.  HARSH US IN DOING WHATS. TO  EXTENT  ♪ OF JUST PAYING FUNDED ALL FROM  SURTAX  ♪ BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO  GO BACK TO THE VOTERS. IN 15  YEARS AND ASK FOR THAT SURTAX  TO BE EXTENDED AGAIN. AND  THERE'S OTHER 1000 REFERENDUMS  ON NOVEMBER'S BALLOT THAT IS  EXTENDING. REFERENDUMS FOR THE  SCHOOL BOARD FOR THEIR PENNY  TAX THAT'S BEING EXTENDED. I'M  CAUTIOUS ABOUT. CHANGING THIS  LIST SO DRAMATICALLY. THAT IS  GOING TO JEOPARDIZE OWNER OF  BEING ABLE TO THE VOTERS  APPROVAL IN THE FUTURE AND  THAT IS NOT SOMETHING YOU CAN  JUST COMPLETELY JUST THAT'S  NOT GOING TO BE A PROBLEM  THEY'RE GOING TO FORGET.  >> THAT'S NOT A VERY HEALTHY  ATTITUDE TO TAKE. BECAUSE THE  VOTERS DON'T FORGET. WE ARE  CHANGING THIS LIST THAT WAS  PART OF THE APPROVAL AND ALSO  ANY FUTURE REFERENDUMS FOR ANY  OTHER ENTITY THAT'S COMING  ABOUT AROUND. FOR VOTERS  APPROVAL AND WHAT I SAID JUST  HE HAD ORDERS AND YOU SEE JUST  CUT EVERYTHING IN FOCUS ON  THOSE 2 PROJECTS. IT WAS MAD  ABOUT EVENT KIND OF  EXPRESSION. BUT THE SAME TIME  HOW HOW CAN SIT HERE AND SPEAK  AND SAYING CUT CUT CUT. ONLY  BENEFIT THE PE WHEN WE HAVE  CITIZEN SCREAMING PROJECTS  THAT WE HAVE KICKED DOWN THE  ROAD FOR YEARS. SO I KNOW IT'S  A VERY DIFFICULT CONVERSATION.  BUT I APPRECIATE WHEN I HEAR  WHAT YOU A PDA OR P D WELL IT,  IT'S NOT FAIR.  >> QUESTION WE HAVE BEEN  KICKING THESE PROJECTS FOR SO  OVERWEIGHT AND THEN NEVER GETS  DOT GOOD THING THAT MATTERS IS  YOU'RE ACTUALLY RIGHT ON  POINT.  >> AND THAT'S A POWER MOVE  THIS PROCESS BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY  ADDED THIS LIKE I SAID WELL WE  COULD HOLD A COMMUNITY CENTER  BUT THAT CAN SEEM TO BE THE  FLAVOR OR THE OPINION OF THE  MAJORITY SO WHAT WE DO IS BY  GOING BACK AND FORTH WE GET TO  A POINT WHERE. GOT A LIST ADD  TO THAT A REGIONAL 50. IT'S  GOING TO BE SHORT AND LIKE YOU  SAY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO  FIND THAT BALANCE AND WHEN WE  DO GO TO THE PUBLIC ULTIMATELY  IS GOING TO MAKE THIS  DECISION. IT'S GOING TO BE A  DECISION A BALANCE WE'RE  GIVING UP SO MANY PROJECTS  FROM SURTAX LIST AND THE BULL  ON A PROPERTY TAX INCREASE.  ORIGINALLY STAFF PROPOSED 5035  IT MAY TURN OUT TO BE. 70. 60  OR 7050 TO GET TO ONE 20  THAT'S THAT'S OR WILL RECALL  IT IS  ♪ GOING BALANCE IT IT WILL ONLY  SOMEWHERE. BUT THERE IS NO  OTHER WAY TO  ♪ GET GRINDING THROUGH THIS.  ALREADY SAW A ALWAYS BEEN ON  THE ONE HAND YOU'VE GOT. YOU  KNOW FIRST WHAT THE CERTAIN  TAX THAT WE WILL FULLY DON.  WAS. 4 PLASMA FOR COUNTY.  WITHOUT CERTAIN TAX. SARASOTA  COUNTY DRY UP BLOW AWAY. OKAY  BILLIONS OF DOLLARS GET SPENT.  COUNTY MUNICIPALITIES THE  SCHOOL DISTRICTS FOR ALL KINDS  OF CAPITAL. AND INFRASTRUCTURE  PROJECTS. IT'S SO NECESSARY  THAT IT'S INCONCEIVABLE TO  THINK IT WON'T BE PERPETUATED  ON INTO TONIGHT YET WELL THERE  ARE CATEGORIES EXPENSE THAT  PEOPLE. THEY DON'T VOTE FOR  EACH AND EVERY INDIVIDUAL  PROJECT AND IF THEY DO SO  THERE WAS NO LEGAL OBLIGATION  ON THE PART ANY MUNICIPALITY  OR COUNTY TO SPENT ONLY ON  THOSE PROJECTS EVERY SINGLE  ONE OF THEN SARASOTA COUNTY  SCHOOL BOARD HAS REGULARLY FOR  EVER. WE PRIORITIZE TO SOME  DEGREE I'M GOING TO STOP YOU  THERE.  >> THAT WAS WHERE MY QUESTIONS  THAT WE CAN SHUFFLE SURTAX  AROUND CORRECT.  >> DECIDE WHERE YOU RIGHT. BUT  FOR EXAMPLE, THE DOLLAR THAT  YOU'VE IDENTIFIED JUST TO MOVE  THEY DO OUT USED YEARS.  FINANCIAL IMPACT OF FUNDING  WOULD BE READY TO YOU. SUPPORT  OF THE POLICE WITH THE TROPHY  IDENTIFY WHAT I DO YOU WALK  OUT SAY WHAT THAT WAS. OR LATE  GOOD YOU NEVER TOO.  >> THEY WERE ALMOST NONE OF  THAT AVAILABLE RIGHT  >> THERE ARE FOR THAT.  >> AND THAT WHEN WE ARE.  >> SUGGESTIONS ABOUT WHAT WE  LIKE TO TAKE OFF THE LAST. SO  TO SPEAK IT'S NOT FOR.  >> ONE OF A BETTER WORD  FRIVOLOUS PROJECT AND THAT'S  WHAT I THINK VICE MAYOR WAS  GETTING OUT ITS FOR SOMETHING  THAT'S I WOULD SAY PRETTY  IMPORTANT TO DO SO THAT WOULD  LEND SOME ASSURANCE TO TO THE  RESIDENTS THAT WE'RE NOT JUST  FROM GOING OUT FOR SOMETHING  THAT WE REALLY DON'T NEED WE  NEED TO HAVE  >> IT'S SAFE TO SAY THAT  COMMISSION WHEN THEY ARE  MAKING THESE DECISIONS ABOUT  LOOK AT THE RACE IS ABOUT WHAT  WE DO WHAT 2 PARKING LOTS ARE  AT THAT TIME, PROVED YOU WANT  GO AWAY.  >> I CAN A WAY OKAY CAN WE GO  ON  >> AND I HAVE ONE  >> MORE QUESTION UNDERSTOOD  THAT THOSE AFTERNOON AFTER  COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL THAT'S  FINE.  >> COMMISSIONER MUCH.  >> JUST WANT TO GRAB CINDY  WHILE SHE WAS UP THERE YEAH I  CAN SEE I CAN ALSO I WAS KIND  BUT QUESTION FOR HER WHEN SHE  BROUGHT UP COMMUNITY CENTER  WHAT WAS THE TIMELINE ON THAT  WAS THAT LIKE 30 YEAR TO 2035.  >> PRETTY AGAIN.  >> 35 TO 39.  ♪ WE'VE A HALF MILLION  ♪ SITTING NASH. FOR THE  COMMUNITY CENTER. COULD WE  JUST OFF THE. OFF THE WALL  GUESS GOOD WE DO REMOVE LET'S  SAY 5 MILLION FREE UP 5 DOING  KEEP THE 2 AND A HALF MILLION  ON THERE IS STILL ON THE BOOKS  IS STILL ON THE WAITING LIST  TO GET FUNDED. AND AS THE  YEARS GO FORWARD WITH WAR  SURTAX IS STUFF WE CAN MAKE  SURE THAT THAT'S A PRIORITY TO  REPAY BACKED UP 5. IT'S JUST  SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT IT  WE'VE GOT SOME OF APPS THAT  MARITAL NOT 2039. AND SO WAS  ABLE TO COUNT FOR ME ONE WHEN  WE HAVE STUFF THAT WE NEED DO  NOW. SO THAT'S I JUST THOUGHT  ABOUT THAT WANT TO PUT THAT  OUT WE CAN TAKE SOME OF THE  MONEY IF YOU WANT TO TAKE IT  ONE STEP FURTHER GO DOWN  THROUGH ALL THIS ARE TAXES  THAT ARE OUT IN THE FUTURE CUT  THEM ALL AND HALF LET'S SAY  HAVE PUT IT BACK TO KNOW WHAT  NUMBERS ARE WE LOOKING AT FOR  THE PD AND HAVE THE REST THE  SURTAX OUT THERE JUST WAIT  HALFWAY POINT YOU KNOW ISH TO  THINK ABOUT. THINK ABOUT WHEN  YOU THINK ABOUT THAT.  >> SENSE. WE TALKED HER TO  AUDIENCE.  >> I  >> APOLOGIZE I MISS THE  QUESTION.  >> IT WAS ASKING ABOUT SINCE  LIKE THEY A COMMUNITY CENTER  IS. IS OUT TO THE YEARS 2035.  AND RE UP LIKE HALF OF THAT  MONEY FOR NOW AND EVENTUALLY  THAT'S WHY UNDERSTOOD HIM THAT  MONEY WOULD COME. I SURTAX  PROJECTS WITH WE CAN ONLY PUT  THE MONEY BACK IN.  >> CERTAINLY YES IF REVENUE  SUPPORTED THE 2 OF THINKING  THAT THIS LOOKING FOR MEMBERS  FREE IN OUT YEARS IS LOOKING  FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING BE A  LOT OF QUESTIONS OKAY IF WE  CAN USE THAT TO INCREASE THE  50 TO A LARGER NUMBER. IT WAS  ALL RIGHT OR THE PAYMENTS IN  THE YEARS THAT THERE COME DO  SO THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT  OF WORK THEY DON'T CARE MAY  HAVE ONLY TO DO THAT AFTER  THIS TO COME BACK AND SAY WHAT  IS CAN WE REALLY AFFORD WHAT  DID WE FREE UP.  >> AND WHEN DID WE 3 AND OH  YES, RIGHT IT HIS FELLOW  BECAUSE THIS IS ONLY TO INTO  THAT 50 MILLION THAT WE FIGURE  THAT WE'VE BEEN. DEMANDING ON  TOP ADDING ART TO ROCK. WE  PRESENT YOU THE CHRIS GOT TO  THE 50 MILLION SO THIS TO MAKE  IT SO WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A  MILLAGE RATE INCREASE OR THAT  WOULDN'T BE A.  >> YET THE MALE ONLY NOT  LETTING UP NOW WITH A YOU  BASED WHAT YOU JUST IDENTIFIED  IN THEORY IF YOU WERE TO  APPROVE IT.  >> THERE ARE 2 WHEREVER IT  NUMBER OR YOU WOULD USE WORTH  WOULD HAVE TO BORROW FOR  >> TENDER LAST BY THE TIME YOU  TOOK OUT THAT KATE AND WAS  THAT YOU GET TO GO BACK OKAY.  COMMISSIONER YOU HAVE A  QUESTION. YEAH  >> THOSE TO  >> COMMISSIONER I'M RICH WAS  SUGGESTING FOR THE OUT YOUR OF  35 TO OR NOT. I JUST DO THAT  FOR ALL OF THE PROJECTS. IN  3034 AND THEN BY HALF. WHAT  WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE FOR DEBT  PAYMENT. BECAUSE NOT ONLY ARE  WE'RE TRYING TO FIND THE MONEY  TAKE ISSUE BUT WE HAVE TO BE  ABLE TO PAY THAT ON BACK WITH  THE INTEREST SO WE CAN'T  FORGET ABOUT FOR CUTTING  SOMETHING LIKE I THINK IT WAS  WELL 14 MILLION FOR PARKS.  >> OUR 7 MILLION I'M SORRY FOR  PARKS. IT ACTUALLY ALL THAT  RAIN WE HAD IT SPRINGS, SO  13 MILLION FOR PARKS. IF WE  WERE TO ISSUE A BOND FOR THAT  13 MILLION WHAT DOES THAT LIKE  IN THE INTEREST PAYMENTS  INCLUDE HOW WE FUND THOSE  INTEREST PAYMENTS. SO I REALLY  WOULD LOOK AT POSSIBLY. JUST  TAKING ALL OF THE PROJECT WHEN  A STUDENT AT I JUST SAY THE  PROJECT LIST CUT HALF. AND  WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE AS  FAR AS ISSUING BONDS AND HOW  WOULD WE PAY THAT BACK WITH  THE INTEREST AND AND FIGURING  THAT OUT. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT  COULD BE PART OF THE  CONVERSATION BY TOMORROW YOU  KNOW IT'S ALMOST YOU KNOW 1230  RIGHT NOW AND WE'RE HAVING  CONTINUED CONVERSATION WITH  THE. THE CHAMBER, BUT MAYBE  WOULD BE MORE PALATABLE FOR  EVERYBODY TO JUST SAY HEY  THESE PROJECTS ARE IN WORLD.  >> THIS IS WHY YOU CUT THEM IN  HALF. THE ONES THAT WE CAN OF  COURSE I THINK THERE'S A FEW  UTILITIES PROJECTS WE MAY NOT  BE ABLE TO THE FIRE EQUIPMENT  WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO. BUT  JUST FIGURE OUT CUTTING THEM  IN HALF. IT'S STILL SHOWING  THEIR IMPORTANT THAT WE THEN  WE HAVE THEM FUTURE REVENUES  THAT COME IN MAYBE HIGHER THAT  IS BEING PROJECTED MIGHT BE  ABLE TO SAY OH WELL NOW WE CAN  FUND THIS ENTIRE. I JUST FIND  IT OUT THERE AND STATE IS  SITTING HERE PICKING AND  CHOOSING. SO. I REALLY LIKE TO  SEE WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE  NOT ONLY IN HOW MUCH WE WOULD  ISSUE BOND FOR BUT WHAT THAT  THAT WE REPAYMENT WOULD LOOK  LIKE.  >> AND THAT COULD BRUSH YOU  HAVE A RULE OF YOU KNOW YOU.  >> IS THE PRESENT VALUE WHAT  THOSE DOLLARS ARE IN THE  FUTURE. BASED IT'S A 5% A  COST. YOU'RE LOOKING AT. SOME  ARE ABOUT $0.60 ON THE BAUER,  SO WHERE DO THAT IN THE OUT  FORWARD WOULD ESSENTIALLY  CREATE ST. AS MENTIONED ABOVE  AND THAT OR SO RULED OUT I  THINK WE PROBABLY  >> THINK YOU COULD HAVE THAT  BETTER NUMBER BY TOMORROW.  NUMBER THESE PART THAT'S  >> OPTIONS AND COMMISSIONER  AVERAGE YOU KNOW REALLY  SPARKED THAT WAS A GREAT IDEA  FOR THE OUT YOUR 35 TO 39 AND  I'M LIKE WHY JUST FOCUS ON  THAT LET'S JUST DO IT FOR THE  CERTAINTY THAT 34 IS ALSO  BECAUSE WE KNOW 25 TO 29,  PRETTY MUCH SNOW IN PORT FOR  PRICE BOULEVARD. PHASE ONE.  I'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE WHAT  THOSE NUMBERS LOOK LIKE AND IF  WE COULD HAVE THAT FOR  TOMORROW I WOULD BE VERY  GRATEFUL. YOU'VE GOT WORK  FOLKS FOR ME IN  >> ALL RIGHT, THANKS HIT.  >> AND AND IT'S IT'S A GOOD  POINT WILL HELP US IN THE  CHURCH 5 FEW BUCKET. AS WE  LOOK AMORTIZED 30 YEAR ON  TRUMP FIRST 15 YEARS AND UP ON  THAT. BUT 35 YEARS 35 39. WE  DO NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO  THE FIRST MORE MOST CRITICALLY  IN THE SECOND 5 BECAUSE WE'RE  STILL GOING TO HAVE ON  PAYMENTS FOR THOSE FIRST 10  YEARS AND THE BIGGEST. ON ON  WILL BE IN THE FIRST 5 YEARS  BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THIS  LIST AND SCAN IT DOWN THERE'S  VERY LITTLE IN YEARS, 25 29  THAT CAN EITHER BE WE  PRIORITIZED OR DEFERRED SO YOU  KNOW THAT'S WHERE THE YOU KNOW  THE METAL MEETS THE ROAD  THAT'S GOING TO BE OUR OUR  TOUGHEST CATEGORY AS WHERE WE  COME UP WITH THAT. X MILLIONS  5 6 MILLION A YEAR WE NEED TO  SERVICE THAT DEBT ON THE YOU  KNOW THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY  OVER THOSE FIRST LOOKING AT 6  TIME 30 MILLION DOLLARS OVER  ITS FIRST 5 YEARS GOING COME  UP WITH. THERE ARE ABOUT MAYBE  MORE. SO.  >> I KNOW THAT THE COMMISSION  LINE THAT'S TRYING TO GET IN  IT'S NOT WORKING SO.  >> YEAH, MY HEAD IS FOR US AND  I CAN GET INTO ABOUT BUT I  CAN'T MAKE A REQUEST TO SPEAK.  I THINK FOR RED TRYING TO  FIGURE ALL THE DETAILS OUT I  THINK WHAT WE'RE DOING WE'RE  GOING THROUGH AND GIVING STAFF  WERE HAVING A GOOD  CONVERSATION WITH STAFF IN  TERMS OF WHAT PROJECTS MIGHT  BE DELAYED OR REDUCED. HOWEVER  WE NEED TO MAKE THE SAUSAGE. I  WOULD EXPECT THAT STAFF WOULD  COME BACK. I'M A SIZE OF ALL  OF THIS AND THE BEST WAY TO  STRUCTURE IT. SO RATHER THAN  TRYING TO STRUCTURE IT HERE I  THINK GIVING STAFF THE AND PUT  ON WHAT PROJECTS WE THINK  COULD BE MANIPULATED IN SOME  WAY THAT THAT PERHAPS BE  ENOUGH DETAIL TO TODAY BUT I  LOOK TO STAFF TO GIVE.  >> THAT THEIR BOARD WE'RE  GOING BY PROJECT TO RECOMMEND  THAT YOU EITHER. THE ALL OF  THAT WITH A ABOUT WE WOULD  NEED YOU PROVIDE WHICH  PROJECTS WINDOW OR.  >> DIRECTION ON WHAT GOING TO  GO THROUGH IF YOU JUST SAY TO  THEM ALL EXCEPT. WHATEVER NEED  THAT DIRECTION GET YOU TO  WHERE YOU WANT TO IF WE IF WE  CONTINUE TO WORK THROUGH IT,  WE'LL COME UP WITH.  >> THIS VERY GENERALIZED LIST  THAT'S NOT EXTEND STORE  HARDENED. WHAT IT AND GIVE  STAFF A CHANCE TO DO IS TAKE  IT AND TAKE THE 3, 5 YOUR  POCKETS AND DROP THOSE NUMBERS  AND AND DURING EACH 5 YEAR  PERIOD WHERE WE WHERE WE GOT  ENOUGH FROM CERTAIN WHERE  WE'RE DEFICIENT AND AS WE  REALLY. DOWN ON.  >> WHICH OF THESE AFTER WE GET  FEEDBACK FROM THE CHAMBER  BECAUSE DATE ON THIS FOR A BIT  COLLECTIVELY WE CAN THEN  REFINED THIS EXACT AND SEE  WHERE WE ARE.  >> DON'T KNOW ANY OTHER WAY TO  DO JUST YOU MANY OTHER WAYS  >> A LITTLE NOT NOT LOOKS NO  THERE REALLY IS COUPLE MORE  THAT OKAY WE WANT FOR OKAY, WE  HAVE AN OFFICE OK SO DO I MOVE  TO DEVELOPMENT.  >> LATER YES.  >> I CAN HOPEFULLY MAKE THIS  VERY EASY FOR I SUGGEST THAT  PART OF THE IT ALL. THAT AND  THIS CITY HALL. DEVELOP  MINISTER SO THAT'S A REMODEL  ALREADY DOING THAT WAS MEANT  TO CIP WE DON'T NEED THAT IN  AND OUT YOU'RE A AND ELAINE  THE CONNECTION OR PORTABLE  HOUSING FOR THE COMMISSION BUT  MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE THAT  THE PRIVATE SECTOR THIS QUITE  WELL. WE HAVE SEVERAL PROJECTS  THAT ARE THERE ARE UNDER  CONSTRUCTION IN HAVE BEEN  APPROVED FOR OUR INTERVIEW.  AND WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY.  REQUESTS RECENTLY ASSISTANCE  WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING  PROJECTS. WE HAVE A LOT OF  FIGHT. MULTI-FAMILY GOING  HOPEFULLY THAT WILL HELP WHERE  IT'S COME DOWN A BIT. IN THE  IN THE KNOT  ♪ >> KATE A  ♪ >> COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL.  >> YEAH, THE THE AFFORDABLE IF  THEY FAY HAVE ONE OF THOSE LOW  INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDIT ASKS  FROM THE COMMISSION BECAUSE  WE'VE HAD THOSE IN THE PAST  WOULD WE BE ABLE TO USE THIS  9.25.  >> 4 OUT OF THE LITTLE FY 35.  YOU A LOT CAN CHANGE OVER THE  NEXT 11 YEARS WITH ALL SO  MUCH. SO YOU WOULD NOT BE ABLE  TO USE THOSE FUNDS FOR ANY  REQUESTS THAT CAME FORWARD THE  NEXT 11 YEARS  >> I THAT THAT THANKS FOR  BRINGING THAT POINT A POT WILL  CHECK WILL CHANGE ONCE OTHER  UNITS RIGHT IN THE MEANTIME WE  DO THAT YOU REQUEST A COUNTRY  LIKE THAT LIKE THE ONE THAT  CAME THROUGH 4.  >> WE WOULD BRING THOSE TO THE  COMMISSION A SPECK CASE BASIS  AND THE COMMISSION COULD  DECIDE IF THEY WANT TO  >> ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT.  SECTION 10. THE MOVE  >> REST OF I BELIEVE THAT  POLICE THERE A LOT LOCAL  COMMUNITY ICE FORM 4 TEAMS  YEAR. GREAT FOR YOU KNOW WHERE  TO FORGO THAT THE QUEST FIND  ANOTHER. REALLY I WE PREVENT  OR IT MAY NOT HAPPEN. ABOUT 2  YEARS  >> BRIAN GREGORY FOR A POLICE  DEPARTMENT THAT'S ARE STILL  RESEARCHING AVAILABLE THROUGH  GRANTS FOR THE MOBILE A  COMMAND VEHICLE TO WE HAVE NOW  IS QUITE DATED HOWEVER STILL.  SHOOTING IS STILL ABLE TO GET  THROUGH UNTIL SUCH TIME THAT  WE'RE ABLE TO. UPDATED TYPE OF  EQUIPMENT.  >> SO IT'S CAPTAIN GREGORY  GOOD TO SEE PLUS A LITTLE  DRIVING  >> I MEAN I KNOW THAT'S A LOT  FOR A WHILE YOU KNOW IT'S A  NEED I MEAN WE NEED TO DO IT  WE'VE BEEN.  >> HAVE WE BEEN UTILIZING IT  ANY OTHER. MUNICIPALITY OR  COUNTY TRACK IT TO TRAIN ON.  ORANGE.  >> YES, IT'S BECOMING QUITE  NOT JUST US. BUT OTHER  AGENCIES TRYING TO FIND  APPROPRIATE LOCATIONS TOO  COMPLETE REQUIRED TRAINING  THAT WE HAVE TO DO FOR OUR  POLICE OFFICERS. WE'VE BEEN  USING THE VENICE AIRPORT  THERE'S A REMOTE AREA OF  AIRPORT WE HAVE THE VENICE  AIRPORT. HE IS THE FACILITY SO  WE COMPLETE OUR PICK TRAINING  WHICH IS OUR PURSUIT  INTERVENTION TECHNIQUE TO STOP  FLEEING FELON HOWEVER THAT  PARTICULAR LOCATION IS  BECOMING EVEN MORE. PAVING  ROADS THE ROADS OUT THERE  QUITE THAT FOR AREAS THAT WE  USE THE THERE'S A BIG TRAINING  FACILITY GOING WORTHY. POLICE  DEPARTMENT OUT EAST MANATEE  COUNTY THAT BROKEN GROUND YET.  THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAS A  FACILITY THAT YOU KNOW THERE'S  DISCUSSIONS OCCURRING IF YOU  WILL THAT WE'RE TRYING TO FEEL  WE USE THAT FACILITY WITH  THEM. HOWEVER RIGHT NOW LOOKS  LIKE WE MIGHT HAVE TO TRAVEL  LEAST 45 MINUTES, SOUTH TO USE  A LEE COUNTY MOSQUITO CONTROL.  AIRSTRIP TO COMPLETE OUR PICK  TRAINING DOWN THERE SO THAT'S  JUST ONE EXAMPLE OF STRIVING  TRAINING THAT WE 2 YOU NEED TO  DO. AS PART OF OUR POLICING  THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE  RESOURCES TO DO HERE LOCALLY.  >> ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY COME  QUESTIONS.  >> THE  >> AGAIN THE GROWING AGENCY  GROWING ME.  >> GLAD TO LIVE INTERVIEW  YOU'LL SEE CATERPILLARS ALL  THE PRIOR.  >> IT LOWER OKAY. COMMISSIONER  >> WHAT I'M HEARING ABOUT THE  DRIVING TRACK IS IF WE MAKE  IMPROVEMENTS OTHER AGENCIES  WOULD PAY US TO USE OUR  FACILITY.  >> THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE  GOING DO. WERE WE'RE VERY MUCH  TRYING TO GET DOLLARS BACK  INTO THE CITY AND WHATEVER WAY  WE CAN AND THERE'S A REAL NEED  FOR WE WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY  OF THOSE OTHER AGENCIES SPOKE  OF THAT I'VE SEEN THE SAME  CHALLENGE WE'RE SEEING WE BE  ABLE TO COLLECT DOLLARS FOR  THEM WITH THE USE OF OUR  FACILITY IF WE HAD.  >> THANK FOR  >> CLASSROOMS FOR THE SAFETY  COMPLEX CLASSROOMS.  >> I KNOW THAT YOU WANT TO  HAVE A CENTRAL LOCATION FOR  THAT DRIVING TRACK THE  TRAINING TOWER FIRE USES AND  AND DIFFERENT THINGS FOR  POLICE AND FIRE TO WORK  TOGETHER. AND HAVE COMPLEX  AREA.  >> IF YOU WERE TOO BECAUSE  THAT PROJECT SEEMS TO BE SO  FAR OUT. COULD YOU USE OF THAT  SHELL SPACE IN THE NEW POLICE  HEADQUARTERS AS CLASSROOMS.  THAT IS THAT A POSSIBILITY.  >> I'M SURE WE CAN CERTAINLY  LOOK AT IT WITH THE  COOPERATION OF THE ARCHITECTS  TO SEE IF WHAT ARE THE NEEDS  ARE TO BE MET IN THAT SHOW  SPACE AND HOWEVER THEY DECIDE  THAT SHELF SPACE OF THE  WOODWORK. WITHOUT COST ISSUE  DOLLARS TO BUDGET.  >> I JUST THROWN IT OUT THERE  BECAUSE YEAH YOU DEFINITELY  HAVE TO HAVE CLASSROOMS AND  YOU KNOW IF THERE'S A LARGE  ENOUGH AREA MAY BE OTHER  ENTITIES MAY USE THAT SPACE TO  RENT THAT SPACE AS CLASSROOMS.  >> A LOT OF THIS COLLABORATION  GOES AND ALL YOU KNOW ALL  BETS. YOU KNOW WHATEVER WE CAN  DO TO MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN.  >> AND THEN DO.  >> I KNOWING HOW MUCH SPACE  YOU NEED CAN YOU POSSIBLY  UTILIZE LIKE THE MORGAN CENTER  THE MALL IN CENTER.  >> FOR CLASSROOM SPACE WE  ACTUALLY DO THAT NOW WE USE  THAT FOR A CLASSROOM FOR THE  DRIVING TRACK. BECAUSE WE  DON'T HAVE ANY CLASSROOM AT  THE DRIVE-IN TRACK RIGHT THE  WAY IT'S IT'S THAT WE USE THAT  FACILITY ACCOMPLISHED THANK  YOU.  >> ARE THERE TO WITH THAT AT A  LITTLE QUESTION FROM CHIEF  FIRE RESCUE DISTRICT IN OUR  CONVERSATIONS AND THEY WERE.  YOU'RE READY FOR BOTH OF THE  POLICE AND FIRE. CLASSROOM AND  BUILD OUT MONEYS WE'LL SEE HOW  MOVED. JUST SO THE  COMMISSIONERS AND OF OUR  DISCUSSIONS ON LOOK FOR FUTURE  FUNDING. YOU DO THAT PROJECT.  WE'RE WORKING RIGHT NOW ON A  PROJECT WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK  LIKE WHAT THAT IS EITHER THAT  OR YOU WOULD LOOK LIKE PART OF  THE REASON WHY IT'S IMPORTANT  TO CONSIDER CLASSROOM ON SITE  LOCATION IN THE FUTURE.  REQUIREMENTS FROM. WANT YOU  WE'RE EVER TO WANT TO TRAIN  OUR OWN PERSONNEL FOR IT  HAPPENS. APARTMENTS OF HOW  THINGS LIKE THAT. SO. TRY  CHANGES. YOUR DISCRETION THE  PART OF THE PARTY. I THINK  THAT WE HAVE MONEY IS ALREADY  GONE.  >> TO THE HAS BEEN FINALLY  APPROVED I THINK YOU'RE GOING  HAVE SOMETHING KNOW THAT WAS  IT WORTH IT, OKAY.  >> SO.  >> WE'RE GOING TO MOVE WE  PUBLIC WORKS.  I AIR. ALL RIGHT. I MEAN  OBVIOUSLY. IT'S WINDING ONCE  LOCKED IN STONE. REALLY. IF  YOU GO DOWN THIS LIST OF  PROJECTS ONLY ONE THAT JUMPS  OUT AT KICKS ME IN THE HEAD AS  TROPICAIRE. ALL OF DESTREHAN  AND BICYCLE WAYS SURE PAT USE.  FIRE RECALL EVEN THOUGH PRIOR  TO COMING ON COMMISSION. I  DON'T BELIEVE THAT FOLKS  LIVING OUT THAT AREA WARMLY  EMBRACED THE IDEA TO BEGIN  WITH THERE ARE 7.3 MILLION  DOLLARS FOR MULTI-MODAL PAST  WHICH THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE  THERE. FORT FOR MOST PART  DIDN'T WANT TO BEGIN WITH.  SEEMS TO MEAL. SOME LOW  HANGING FRUIT. THAT OK. WE  KNOW  >> I WAS IN THE FOR THAT  COMMISSION MEETING. THINK IT  WAS BEFORE I BECAME A  COMMISSIONER ALSO AND THERE  WAS PRETTY REZONE THAN THEY  COUPLE FOLKS WHO THOUGHT IT  WOULD BE GOOD IDEA AND A LOT  OF FOLKS WHO DIDN'T. I ALSO  SUSPECT BY 10 OR 15 YEARS OUT  WE'RE GOING TO BE WIDENING  TROPICAIRE AND WHAT DOES THAT  DO. TO A MULTI MODAL PATH SO  MY THOUGHT ON THAT IS ANYTHING  THAT HAS TO DO WITH SAFETY.  ALONG TRAFFIC CARE REALLY NEED  TO CONSIDER DOING. BUT IF IT'S  A MORE IN A MANATEE AGAIN I  HEARD IN THAT ROOM PEOPLE  WEREN'T SO HOT. I'M HAVING  THAT TYPE PATH GOING  TROPICAIRE. COMMISSIONER  MCDOWELL.  >> SHARED USE PATH THERE'S A  SEGMENT THAT DOES NOT WANT  THAT OUT THERE, HOWEVER THERE  ARE SCHOOL BUSES AND THOSE  PEOPLE. THOSE CITIZENS  ABSOLUTELY WANT THEIR CHILDREN  TO BE SAFE WHILE THEY'RE  WAITING FOR SCHOOL BUSES ALONG  TOP OF CARE. SO THERE IS A  NEED THAT WE CANNOT DISMISS  FOR THAT SHARED USE PATH.  >> IT  >> ARTERIAL ROAD AND OUR TOP  PLAN REQUIRES ARTERIAL ROADS  TO HAVE MULTIMODAL MAU  T-MOBILE PATHS OR SIDEWALKS  WE'VE GOT TO REALLY BE CAREFUL  ON THAT ONE. IF WE CUT IT IN  HALF IT'S STILL THERE AND WE  CAN HAVE THAT CONVERSATION BUT  IF YOU GOING TO FIND ALL THESE  PROJECTS THEY'RE OFF. AND  THAT'S GET REMOVED PROBABLY  NEVER TO COME BACK AGAIN. MY  QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH HER  STORM OUT FACE TOO. IT'S BEEN  SAID THAT PHASE 2 GOES FROM  SUMPTER TO BISCAYNE AND THAT  IS NOT TRUE ACCORDING TO THE  CIP SHEET. ACCORDING TO THE  CIP SHE GOES TO THE MIDDLE  SCHOOL HIGH SCHOOL. NOW THE  JURY IS KIND ABOUT WHERE THE  MIDDLE SCHOOL HIGH SCHOOL  ISN'T THAT WHERE THE NEW  STOPLIGHT IS GOING IN OR IS  THAT THE I DON'T KNOW, BUT  NEVER SAYS ANYTHING ABOUT  GOING DOWN TO BISCAYNE. SO I  JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT  THERE IN PHASE 3 IS FROM  TOLEDO BLADE TO ORLANDO. AND  I'D LIKE TO GO BACK TO PHASE 2  BECAUSE WE ARE WORKING THROUGH  RECONSTRUCTING OR POSSIBLY  DOING NEW FOR THE BRIDGE OVER  THE MYAKKA HACHI CREEK AND IT  WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THIS IS  HOW IT WAS GOING TO GET PAID  FOR. AND THAT BRIDGE HAS BEEN  MENTIONED NUMEROUS TIMES THAT  IT'S AND WE NEED TO ACT SOONER  RATHER THAN LATER THAT'S  THAT'S THE NEON FLASHING WHITE  THAT I HAVE HEARD IN THE PAST  FEW YEARS OF DISCUSSION ABOUT  THAT BRIDGE. SO WHERE ARE WE  GOING TO GET THE MONEY TO FIX  THAT BRIDGE. IF WE KEEP  PUSHING IT OUT.  >> THE MYAKKA CREEK BRIDGE IS  UNDER DESIGN OF IT IS NOT TO  THE POINT OF FAILURE AS SOME  SCHEDULING ISSUES. WHAT SCOUR  FROM I'VE LOST THE WATER AS  CONTACTS CONCRETE SERVICES IT  SCOURS THE SERVICE.  >> SCRATCHES IT IS IS A SAFE  BRIDGE, BUT IT IS IN  REPLACEMENT IN THE NEAR  FUTURE. AS IT'S ONE OF OUR  MAIN BRIDGES AND ITS WATERWAY  THROUGH THE CITY THAT TAKES  THAT THAT STORM ONE OF THEM  HAVE STORMS. WE WANT TO RICH.  WE HAVE A COUPLE DIFFERENT  WORKING ON FOR FUNDING FOR  THAT SORT YOU FUNDS LOOKING  FORWARD FOR GRANT MONIES WERE  ALSO YOU SUPPRESS IMPACT. I  BELIEVE THIS WE MADE THAT SOME  ARE WORKING ON STATE  APPROPRIATIONS AS WELL.  >> SO ALL OF THOSE THINGS  EXCEPT FOR THE TRANSPORTATION  IMPACT THE SRQ AND THE STATE  APPROPRIATIONS THOSE ARE  FUTURE BIG QUESTION MARKS. AND  WHAT IS YOUR DEFINITION OF.  FOR READING NEEDING  REPLACEMENT.  >> 2 YEARS 5 YEARS 20 YEARS  WHAT IS WHAT IS YOUR TIMELINE  LOOK AT BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO BE  REPLACED. WHAT IS YOUR  TIMELINE FOR THAT. I THINK IT  IS.  >> I DON'T HAVE I'M NOT  URGENT. I WANT TO TIE THAT  WOULD LIKE PILOT PROJECT AND  WITH 80'S ONE PRICES FOR SOME  TIME ABOUT THAT FROM ONE FOOT  TO GET HOPEFULLY WE CAN CAUSE  FROM THE CONTRACTORS THAT ARE  IN PLACE. IT'S A LITTLE FOR  MOBILIZATION FEES RELATED TO  AS WELL AS WHY THAT SMALL  PIECE OF SUMPTER ARE. SO PRESS  WILL WORK FROM SOMETHING TO  THE BRIDGE. WE'RE TRYING TO  PROVE WORKING COUPLE OF  DIFFERENT. BUT IT'S STILL TAIL  END OF PRICE PHASE ONE. BUT  AGAIN THAT I'M NOT ANY. RUSH  TO GET THAT OVER THE NEXT YEAR  OR 2.  >> AND LOOKING TO SO THIS IS  NEW INFORMATION THAT I HEARD  YET ABOUT TYING IN UP TO THE  FOR PHASE, ONE OF PRICE  BOULEVARD. IS THAT PART OF THE  63 MILLION DOLLARS THAT WE  JUST HEARD ABOUT NOT  LEVERAGING THE REFERENDUM WAS  WAY IT.  >> SO THAT'S WHAT THE BOMBS  >> HOW WE PAY FOR THAT.  >> PATIENT THAT WON 7 FUNDS  AND KIND OF GRANT FUNDS THAT  WE CAN COME RIGHT.  >> MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE'RE  GOING OUT TO BID FOR PHASE  ONE. THE FALL TO END OF 24.  >> WE PLAN TO BREAK GROUND  POINT FOR THEM TO GO INTO NEXT  COUPLE MONTHS, OKAY, BUT.  >> IF WE'RE BREAKING GROUND IS  THAT GOING TO INCLUDE GOING TO  THE MYAKKA HATCH CREEK BRIDGE  DIFFERENT PROJECTS COMPLETELY.  >> YOU JUST OKAY I SAID I WANT  TO TIE AND THE TIMING OF THE  CONSTRUCTION GOT TO TIMING OF  CONSTRUCTION I HEARD TYING IN  WITH PHASE, ONE. OKAY, SO THAT  IT WITH THE TIMING OF  CONSTRUCTION OF PRICE  BOULEVARD WE HAVE THE  CONTRACTORS AND TALENT  >> OKAY AND I IT WAS ANOTHER  QUESTION ABOUT TO EXACTLY WHAT  DOES THAT ENTAIL IS THAT  SUMPTER TOO.  >> THIS SO INITIALLY SOMETHING  OF THIS GAME WAS A FACE PRESS  FOR PUP INTO 3 THE PHASE 3 WAS  EAST OF TOLEDO RIGHT IS ONE  WAS. SOME AND THEN THIS CAME  TO SOMETHING. BUT BECAUSE  WE'RE SHIFTING A LITTLE BIT  TRYING TO GET THAT HE'S  BETWEEN THE BRIDGE AND IF YOU  HAD SOME AFTER TO TIE  TOGETHER. THERE'S YES. IT  >> OKAY CONFUSING ANYBODY  ANYMORE ON PROBLEMS WERE  ACTUALLY VERY GOOD.  >> FACE THEN WHAT GOING FROM  THE BRIDGE TO BISCAY SO GOING  OUT TO THIS GAME FOR THE NEXT  PHASE. WELL  >> OUR NEXT PHASE WILL NEXT  PHASE WILL GO TO THE SUMPTER  WILL THEN THE NEXT ONE IS THE  ONE  >> FURTHER.  >> 2 HERE IS RIGHT TO COMPLETE  TO BUT THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO  CLARIFY THAT'S EXACTLY WHERE  THAT WOULD GO OKAY.  >> AND GET GETTING THAT  TROPICAIRE PATHWAY.  >> I'M IN LINE WITH  COMMISSIONER WITH THIS THAT MY  MAIN EAST-WEST CORRIDOR AND  HAS AND.  >> I DON'T AGREE WITH WITH  OTHERS I KNOW THE PEOPLE LIVE  IN THAT AREA DON'T WANT TO SEE  IT, BUT IT'S IT'S REALLY NEED  IT THERE'S NOWHERE PEOPLE TO  THE CYCLE TO TO WALK IN  RESPECT ELSE THAT ARE WAITING  FOR THEIR. BUT THERE'S NOT  THERE'S NO PLACE FOR THEM TO  GO, BUT IF WE WERE TO CUT THAT  IN HALF. I DON'T KNOW THAT  WOULD BE AWESOME THING CAUSE  WE'RE TALKING BACK PUTTING  OTHER PROJECTS IN HALF.  >> FREE UP SOME OF THAT MONEY  THAT OUT 3539 THAT I SEE THAT  ON THERE. THAT'S WHERE THAT  WOULD COME IN.  >> STARTING BOARD WILL TALK  ABOUT 6 YEARS OUT AGAIN AT  LEAST TO KEEP IT ON THERE  OTHERWISE IT JUST AND I'D LIKE  TO SEE SOMETHING KEPT ON THERE  SO THAT IT DOESN'T DISAPPEAR  TOTAL.  >> COMMISSIONER LIKE  >> QUESTION THERE CURRENTLY A  LAW.  >> WANG.  >> NOW I THERE IS NO THINK  >> AND THAT IS A HEAVILY  TRAVELED ROAD WITH COME WITH A  DUMP TRUCKS AND EVERYTHING  ELSE AND AND THERE'S NOWHERE  FOR PEOPLE TO NO CYCLISTS ARE.  SO ARE THE WALK THAT WOULD BE  TAKING YOUR LIFE IN YOUR HANDS  THAT YOU HAVE TO WALK WELL,  YEAH. IT'S NOT WHAT YOU KNOW,  YES, JUST THAT AND OKAY.  >> SO ANYTHING ELSE FOR IT  WORKS REALLY GOOD WITH THAT.  ARE FAR. SO WE SAW THE THERE.  CONOCO.  >> I DON'T ALL JUST JUMP IN  AND THAT I DON'T REALLY  BELIEVE I MEAN MY OPINION  SOLID WASTE TRANSFER STATION  IN UTILITIES TO CATEGORY SO  FAR NEEDS NOT WANTS. I WOULD.  MY INCLINATION IS TO LEAD AND  JUST WHERE THEY ARE I THINK  THEY'RE IMPORTANT.  >> NOW. I WAS JUST GOING MAKE  A COMMENT BACK TO YOU BUT ALL.  LIKE A GROWNUP. I'M GOOD WITH  LEAVING THAT ON THEIR TO ME  THAT LIKE IT'S SOMETHING THAT  HAVE TO BE DONE IN STAGES IT  WOULD JUST PUSH EVERYTHING WAY  BACK IF WE WERE TO CUT. I  THINK FROM THE BEGINNING.  ANYTHING ELSE. OK I'M GOOD  WITH ALL RIGHT. WE TAKE A  LUNCH BEFORE WE START TO IN  CIP WELL WE HAVE. THAT'S OKAY,  I WOULD JUST LIKE WHAT GENERAL  COMMENT. APPRECIATING THAT.  >> THIS EXERCISE HAS LIKE THAN  A FIGHT. PRICE IS TOO. 80'S A  83 MILLION DOLLARS. NOW.  APPRECIATING LOT. ANY  DECISIONS ON THESE THEY ONLY  REPRESENT A POTENTIAL GROUP OF  PROJECTS. MY OPINION. WOULDN'T  BE KILLED. BUT  ♪ ♪ THE FOR IT. TO A CERTAIN TAX  NOT TO GO INTO THE EXERCISE OF  THE PROS AND CONS WITH THE  REALITIES A SURTAX 5 COMING ON  BOARD. I APPRECIATE THERE IS  NO SURTAX 5 YET. BUT WE WANT  TO THAT THERE WILL SO AGAIN  THESE ARE PROJECTS THAT WE  WOULD KILL THEY ARE PROJECTS  THAT WE WOULD BE DIFFERENT. IF  WE WERE TO DECIDE THAT THE  POLICE STATION WATERS WAS A  HIGHER PRIORITY, NOT THAT  THESE ARE NOT ALL PRIORITY  SCHOOL STEAK AU. AGAIN IT'S  IT'S IT'S. SOMETHING TO  CONSIDER AND THINK ABOUT ALL  WORD OR DOING IS ARE GOING TO  FIND THAT BALANCE BUT BUT.  >> THIS EXERCISE IS GENERATED  83 MILLION DOLLARS. 320  83 MILLION PLUS OF POTENTIAL.  SURE TAX REVENUES THAT MIGHT  BE USED TO HELP SERVICE THE  SPOTS, MIKE. THE. JUST SO  PERSPECTIVE, I'M SAYING THEY  SHOULD. POTENTIALLY THERE  OKAY.  >> ANYTHING ELSE THAT DUE A  LUNCH BREAK AND I JUST YEAH.  >> SO TOMORROW WE'RE MEETING  WITH THE CHAMBER, I JUST WANT  TO MAKE IN MY MIND YOU'RE  GOING TO BE COMING BACK WITH  SOME NUMBERS SHOWING LIKE THE  I SUGGESTED THANK TO  COMMISSIONER RIDGE FIRST  STARTING THAT CONVERSATION.  BUT ALSO MAYBE ANOTHER  SCENARIO THAT WE COULD LOOK AT  IS THE ONES THAT WE HAVE SAID  HEY. LET'S SEE ABOUT DEFUNDING  THE U.S.. NOT THAT COMPLETELY  ON BOARD BUT SEE WHAT IT LOOKS  LIKE. SO THAT WE THEN WE HAVE  THE 2 OPTIONS, ONE WHERE  CIRCLED KIND OF SAID OKAY THIS  ONE CAN BE REMOVED THIS ONE  COULD BE REMOVED AND THEN THE  OTHER ONE IS WHERE WE SAY. I  WANT YOUR SWIM. 2032 2039,  CUTTING THOSE AND A HALF OR  SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THAT  BASED ON WHAT STAFF MAY SAY NO  WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO DO THIS.  MAYBE WE COULD HAVE THOSE 2  CONVERSATIONS TOMORROW  CHAMBERS.  >> CLARIFICATION ON THAT  SECOND ONE HAVE ON THE OUT  YEARS WE'RE TALKING EVERY  DEPARTMENT.  >> THAT WHAT I WAS THE ONES  THAT WERE LISTED WERE REPORT  OF A COOL ABOUT 26 MILLION  >> THE OTHER REQUESTS PRESERVE  >> WE THE OTHER PIECE OF BUT  GO HELPS TO CUT YOU HAVE.  >> IT'S SOMETHING IN ADDITION  TO THAT PLACE PEOPLE LOOK AT  SCHOOL. YOU KNOW WORK  >> WHEN COMMISSIONER EMRICH  SUGGESTED ALL THE OUT YEARS OF  2035 TO 2039 CUTTING THOSE IN  HALF. ALL OF THOSE A COLLECTOR  TOLD THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT HE  WAS SUGGESTING WAS TAKING  THOSE AND CUTTING THEM IN  HALF.  ♪ THAT WOULD FREE UP SOME MORE  MONEY. BUT 2034. BECAUSE THERE  IS A A DESIRE TO MAKE SURE  THAT THESE PROJECTS STILL  FORWARD BECAUSE THEY ARE  IMPORTANT WAS TO COVID CUT  2030 20 3220 34. THOSE IN HER.  SO THAT THERE'S IDEAS GOING ON  ONCE AND WE IDENTIFIED THAT  YES WE CAN POTENTIALLY MOVE  THOSE OUT IN AND NOT JUST  COMPLETELY DEFUND THEM. BUT  THEN THERE WAS ANOTHER  SCENARIO TO SEE ABOUT PUTTING  THOSE OUT YEARS IN HALF. SO  THAT WE CAN SEE WHICH WHAT  LIKE.  >> ITEMS THAT ASK.  >> BUT THEY WANT US TO DO THAT  FOR YOU SHARE YOU THAT ALL THE  PROJECTS THAT WE DID NOT TOUCH  THIS AND THAT EXPLODED. WE  NEED YOU TO TAKE MOTION TO GET  ELECTION THAT'S NOT WHAT WE  JUST DID FROM DEPARTMENT AS  FINISH THE CONVERSATION WELL  FOR PEOPLE. ALWAYS ALL THOSE  NOT WANT. IT'S GOING TO GO NOW  CUT THOSE IN HALF.  >> JUST FOR YOUR 30 OF 34,  WHICH INCLUDES 52 BILLION  DOLLARS FOR THE PROJECT. WE  WANT TO THAT WHAT WE DID WITH  CAPTURED THE 26 BILLION YOU  ALL READ UP SATURDAY THAT  COULD BE HERE. WE SHOULD ALL  OR AGAINST 26TH ALL.  >> WHEN I HAD ORIGINALLY  STATED THAT IT WAS THAT STAFF  IS GOING TO HAVE TO SAY NO. WE  CANNOT PUT THESE IN HALF WE  HAVE TO DO THIS.  >> THAT TO REMOVE ORDER ARE  THE WE SPOKE WANT.  >> WE HERE ARE WITH THAT ONE.  WE DIDN'T HEAR NO LAW WE ARE  NO I PUT EVERY OTHER  PROPERTIES THAT WE DID NOT  DISCUSS THE COVID THAT WAS  SOMETHING DON'T MISS THE GOAT.  >> I'M SORRY COMMISSIONER  LANGDON  >> I'M I'M NOT A PROPONENT OF  CUTTING EVERYTHING HAPPENED  I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT THE  LIST OF ITEMS THAT WE  IDENTIFIED FOR SOME TYPE OF  MANIPULATION. SOME PRIORITIES  ARE MORE PRIORITY THAN OTHERS  AND I THINK WE HAVE THAT  CONVERSATION AND THERE WERE A  FEW THINGS ON THIS LESS THAT  WE ALL FELT COULD BE DEFERRED  WITH NO SERIOUS IMPACT. I  WOULD NOT BE SUPPORTIVE OF AN  EXERCISE TO CUT EVERYTHING IN  HALF. IF WHEN WHEN TAKE ALL  THE INFORMATION THAT WE  GENERATED HERE TODAY AND PUT  IT IN THE STRUCTURE IF THERE  ARE SOME PROJECTS THAT STAFF  BELIEVES COULD BE CUT IN HALF  AND MAYBE FREE UP SOME  ADDITIONAL MONEY AND DO IT  THAT BUT I I'M NEVER A  PROPONENT OF ACROSS CUTS I  PREFER DOING THE HARD WORK OF  SETTING PRIORITIZING A AND  JUST RATTLING COMPROMISING  EVERYTHING LET'S GET RID OF  THINGS THAT WE DON'T THINK OUR  PRIORITIES AND YOU KNOW WORK  WITH THE REST SO THAT'S WHERE  I'M AT ON THAT ISSUE. THAT.  >> SO IT WASN'T THAT THIS IS  THE FINAL THING IT WAS JUST  SEEKING INFORMATION AS TO WHAT  IT WOULD LOOK LIKE TO CUT THEM  IN HOW THAT WOULD LOOK AND  THEN OTHER SCENARIO. WELL YOU  MAY THINK YOU SAW EVERYONE  JUST. IF. THIS IS THE LIST  THAT WAS APPROVED BY THIS  COMMISSION. LESS THAN A YEAR  AGO AND NOW WE HAVE THE  PRIORITY FOR THE POLICE  DEPARTMENT. BUT WE ALSO HAVE  THESE PRIORITIES TO GET SOME  OF THESE PROJECTS THAT'S WHY I  WAS ASKING TO SEE WHAT THAT  WOULD LOOK THAT'S ALL IF  NOBODY ELSE WANTS TO DO IT I I  JUST WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE  LOOKING AT ALL OPTIONS IN THE  IF YOU IMMEDIATELY TAKING IT  OFF THE TABLE AS KNOW WE'RE  NOT LOOKING AT THAT OPTION  WILL THEY WERE NOT LOOKING AT  ALL OPTIONS. ON  >> AND MAYOR, IF YOU'VE GOT A  SECOND. YEAH I DO. CONFUSED. I  MEAN MISTER FIELDS OVER THEIR  USE FLIP-FLOPPING NOW A LITTLE  BIT TRYING TO GET BUT ONE  COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL BROUGHT  IT UP ABOUT THE THE 39 PLAN  EXACTLY WHAT I WAS LOOKING GUY  THAT WASN'T LOOKING AT ANY OF  THE NEWER PROJECTS COMING  FORWARD IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS  THAT ARE BEING USED A SURTAX  IF THEY'RE FULLY FUNDED THERE  A NEED WE'VE ALREADY VETTED  THROUGH THAT WHAT WE'RE  LOOKING THOSE OUTER YEARS. I  GUESS THERE WAS 7 AND A HALF  MILLION DOLLARS FOR THAT  COMMUNITY CENTER AND WE COULD  FREE UP 5 MILLION OF IT NOW.  TO OUR BENEFIT FOR WHAT WE'RE  GOING THROUGH WE CAN PUT THAT  5 MILLION BACK LATER AND IT'S  STILL A PRIORITY IS STILL  SHOWS AS A PRIORITY ON THE  BOOKS BECAUSE THERE'S STILL  SOME FUNDING IN THERE AND BY  LOOKING AT SOME OF THE OTHER  ONES IN THAT SAME TIME LINE  YOU NEVER KNOW YOU MIGHT BE  ABLE TO FREE UP ANOTHER  5 MILLION DOLLARS IN THAT  COOLER NOW OKAY, WE'RE LOOKING  AT 10 MILLION DOLLARS IN  SAVINGS AND ALL WE'RE DOING IS  MOVING MONEY AROUND MIGHT GET  DOWN OUT OF A 1000 TIMES UP  THERE ON THAT SO THAT'S THAT'S  WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IS TRYING  TO GET AHEAD OF THE GAME YEAH,  I WOULDN'T MIND SEEING WHAT  THE TAKE YOURS ARE TO SEE IF  THEY WERE ALL JUST TO SEE ITS  INFORMATION. SO I WOULD HAVE  NO PROBLEM WITH THAT  WHATSOEVER AND I THINK THAT'S  WHERE WE NEED TO GOING NEWS  FOR MORE INFORMATION RIGHT NOW  WORLD. WE'RE NEVER GOING TO  GET PAST THIS HURDLE ACCENT, I  MEAN IT'S GOING TO TRIP AND  FALL EVERY TIME LET'S LET'S  LOOK AT SOME BIG NUMBERS LOOK  AT LOOK AT WHERE WE'VE COME  TO. I KNOW EVERY DEPARTMENT  EVERY YEAR FIGHTS FOR EVERY  LITTLE PIECE OF JUICE THAT  THEY CAN GET AND IT HAS TOPPED  ITS VERY TOUGH OUT ALL THE  DEPARTMENTS. BUT NOW WE'RE  LOOKING AT SOMETHING THAT'S  PUBLIC SAFETY. THAT'S OUR CITY  THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT AND  OUR CITIZENS AND HOW DO WE GET  WE'VE GOT TO GET THERE  SOMEHOW.  >> THANK YOU THANK YOU.  COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER  LANGDON CITY BASED  COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER  ABOUT COURT. IF YOU LOOK AT  THE YOU'LL SEE THE SUBTOTAL  LINE EACH OF AND THE LAST 14  NOT YEARS PRISON FIGHT DOES  THAT  >> LOOKING FOR.  >> DID YOU HAVE THE THAT'S  SHOWN FOR ALSO HAS A 105 COULD  END UP THAT WE HAVE HALF OF  THAT YOU RIGHT THAT WE BUT  IT'S NOT SHOWING THE INTEREST  THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO PAY BACK  THAT IS THE WE HAVE TO LOOK AT  THE WHOLE THING NOT JUST WHAT  WE'RE CUTTING WE'VE GOT A LOOK  AT HOW IS THAT GOING TO BE  PAID BACK ARE EXPLAIN CHANGES  THAT YOU MAKE.  >> WITH TICKETS GOING BACK  INTO THE PUTTING THEM BACK AND  IT WAS FOR IT TO IS BASED ON  NUMBERS THAT YOU WITH THAT  THAT WOULD BE DECISION.  >> COMMISSIONER YOU KNOW ONE  OF THE REASONS I HEARD FOR THE  50% CUT WAS TO KEEP. PRIORITY  PROJECTS ON THE BOOKS. ISN'T  THERE ANY OTHER WAY TO DO THAT  TO MANIPULATE FUNDING.  >> ONE THING WE ARE PULL THE  WE PUT IN PARKING LOT OF WHAT  RICE STILL LEFT THE SINGLE  PROJECTS WE'RE NOT GOING IT  PART OF THEY WILL HAVE PLACED  ORDERS OKAY.  >> AND JUST WHAT I WOULD FIND  IS FINDING OUT HOW MUCH THIS  WOULD BE INVOLVED BUT. TAKING  THAT 50% LIKE YOU SAID TAKE  THAT NUMBER 50% OF THAT BUT  I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHICH  PROJECTS WOULD HAVE SOME  SERIOUS. RAMIFICATIONS IF WE  TOOK 50% FROM THIS PARTICULAR  PROJECT OR IS THAT JUST TOO  INVOLVED DO THAT.  >> I CASE WOULD BE THAT LOOK  OVER MONEY BY UK. READY FOR  YOU 2 FOR 4, WHICH MIGHT WHO.  ALL TAX CODE A WAY THAT'S  ABOVE AND BEYOND THE FUNDING  THAN THE ONES LIVE OR WORK.  MILLION DOLLARS YOU'RE GOING  TO LOOKING SHORE.  >> OKAY JUST LOOKING AT SOME  OF THESE SEEM TO WORK IN  TANDEM WITH EACH OTHER. BUT  SOME OF THEM ARE IT'S FOR  3034. WELL, YEAH, IT HAPPENED  THE TOP OF CARE AND AGAIN AND  THAT'S NOT 35 SO I WOULD IT'S  THAT'S IT'S AN ALL OR NOTHING  TYPE PROJECT. FOR THAT SO THAT  THAT'S WHY ASKING THAT  QUESTION OF  >> AND SO WE WANT TO THAT.  >> JUST.  >> ONE COMMENT YOU KNOW IN  SPLITTING AND YOU CAN ALMOST  SEE THE 30 TO 34, YOU'VE GOT A  CITY MANAGER SAID 3RD FLY 35  3925 IF YOU HAVE THOSE 2  GROUPS YOU'VE GOT 5060. YOU  GOT YOU KNOW 110 MILLION  DOLLARS BUT. YOU KNOW WAS A  MEMBER OF DEBT SERVICE. DURING  THOUGH THAT  10 YEAR PERIOD MAY NOT WITH  UNDER FUNDING METHODOLOGIES.  REQUIRE US. FULL 50%.  OBVIOUSLY WHAT THIS IS  STARTING TO SHOW YOU IS IS THE  SEVERITY OF THE FIRST 5 YEARS.  YOU KNOW. JUST TO SORT TALK  THAT AWAY OUR HEADS WE'VE GOT  THE FIRST 5 YEARS WHERE WE  HAVE VIRTUALLY TOUCHED ANY OF  THIS THERE'S NOTHING SO FAR  THAT WE'VE WE'VE WE'VE SO  WE'RE LOOKING AT THE COST  WHATEVER BE WHETHER IT BE JOB  WHETHER IT BE LEASE PAYMENTS  WE'VE GOT 5 YEARS. WE HAVEN'T  FIGURED OUT HOW TO FUND AND  AND SO THAT'S A CONSIDERATION,  BUT BUT THE EXERCISE OF  SPLITTING, I MEAN IT DOES GIVE  US A FEEL FOR IT. YOU KNOW IT  PROBABLY WOULDN'T THAT LAST 10  YEARS COME UP IN EXCESS BY  PROBABLY 20 MILLION DOLLARS  FROM WHAT DONE THIS FOR US  PROJECT BY PROJECT BY PROJECT  SO YOU I MEAN BE SOMETHING  LOOK AT IT SINCE LOOK ANGLE OF  THING.  >> COMMISSIONER LANGDON YOU  KNOW ONE LAST WE DID IF WE  HAVE ALL THOSE PROJECTS AND  UTILIZED THAT MONEY. BUT THE  POLICE HEADQUARTERS THEN WHAT  WE'RE DOING IT'S PUTTING THE  BURDEN ON FUTURE COMMISSION  AND FUTURE DEPARTMENTAL  DIRECTORS TO SCRAMBLE FOR  THOSE PROJECTS THAT ARE REALLY  ESSENTIAL. SO THE HARD WORK IS  IDENTIFYING THOSE THINGS THAT  ARE REALLY ESSENTIAL AND AND  WITH DONE THAT. AND WHAT'S  JUST LEAVE THE REST OF IT  ALONG I I IT IS JUST NOT GOOD  PRACTICE. AND IT'S NOT BEEN  THE AMMO OF COMMISSION TO  FUTURE COMMISSIONS AND  DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR IS WEST.  INCOMPLETE DECISIONS THAT WE  MADE UP HERE TO SEW AND I JUST  I JUST DON'T LIKE IT I THINK  KNOWING. WE HAVE WE HAVE THE  TOTAL NUMBER IS IT'S HALF WE  HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT'S  AVAILABLE. LET'S COME BACK TO  IT ONLY IF WE HAVE TO. YOU  KNOW BASED ON SO DID THE INPUT  THAT WE GAVE TODAY KIND OF IN  ORDER TO MAKE SURE YOU KNOW  FIRST LIKE A SUMMARY ARGUMENT  THAT THE REALITY IS WE'RE  STILL IN GATHERING ALL OR  INFORMATION STATES SO I WOULD  ERR ON THE LIKE THE EXERCISE  IS NOT VERY DIFFICULT TO QUITE  FRANKLY WE HAVE THE NUMBER WE  HAVE TO KNOW ABOUT ME TO HAVE  WE'VE DONE THAT BUT TO HAVE  THIS.  >> COMMISSIONER EMRICH AND  COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL SAID  IT'S A PIECE OF CAKE, IT'S  LIKE THERE. IT'S IT'S IT'S  EASY TO DO AND YOU CAN EASILY  IDENTIFY THOSE PROJECTS FOR  WHICH THAT ANALYSIS WITH THAT  YOU CAN'T LIKE TO LOOK AT IT,  OKAY SOLID WASTE TRANSFER THIS  4.8 MILLION IN FLY 30 TO 34  YOU ONLY COME BACK AND SAY  THAT'S JUST WE'RE NOT TOUCHING  THAT THAT NO MATTER WHAT YOU  DO YOU CAN'T MESS WITH THAT  NUMBER YOU MAKE THAT MAYBE THE  FEED THAT BUT TO DO TO US  WE'RE NOT MAKING A DECISION  NOW I DON'T SEE A REASON DOUBT  BOTH TO LOOK AT AND TO GET A  FEEL FOR AND I'M NOT THAT  CONCERNED EVEN THAT IT BE DONE  TOMORROW AND THAT WAS THE  OTHER COMMENT REALLY WHAT'S  GOING TO SAY, BUT THE BMA I'M  GOING TO GO AHEAD AND SAY IT  WILL BE INTERESTING.  >> TOMORROW ALL YOU KNOW ALL  OUR OUR CHAMBER PARTNERS, OUR  VALUED PARTNERS AND I'M VERY  INTERESTED TO HEAR. WHAT THEY  HAVE TO SAY ABOUT.  >> THIS APPROACH TO 2. WE  PRIORITIZE SING ON FUNDING,  WHATEVER YOU MIGHT WANT TO  CALL THE THE SURTAX PROJECTS  HOW IMPACT OUR BUSINESS  COMMUNITY. I THINK THAT'S A  WORTHWHILE CONVERSATION I WILL  FORGET HEARING THAT I.  >> YES IF WE COULD JUST TAKE A  MOMENT TO COME FROM THE  PROJECT, YES DIFFICULT TO TELL  WHAT WAS IN THAT AND WE'VE GOT  A DIFFERENT NUMBER SO I JUST  WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS  WORLD IN PROTEST OF GOLF  ♪ 72 MILLION DOLLARS.  ♪ OR THE UTTER 250,000. WE JUST  WANT IN. ADDITIONAL OUTDOOR  FESTIVAL COURTS. 400,20200.  RIVER ROAD REGIONAL PARK  SPORTS COMPLEX 25,000. I WAS A  VISION AT THE CREEK PARK. YOU  KNOW TENNIS COURTS AND  PICKLEBALL WE HAVE YEAH I  DIDN'T HEAR THAT YOU KNOW WE I  IT ALL ABOUT AND HOW MUCH  PEOPLE SPENDING FOR OF ALL OF  THEM. THINK IT WAS THE PRODUCT  OF THE  >> YEAH, BUT COULD BE MISTAKEN  BY FOOT THAT'S WHAT WE REFER  TO IT.  >> LEGACY TRAIL EXTENSION  125,000. WELL THAT WAS AS  WHOLE I BELIEVE IT.  >> I MEAN NUMBER. IT WAS NOW.  DIRECTIVES WERE PATROL YEAH,  VIEW OF THAT MONEY UP SOONER.  RATHER THAN LATER REMOVED.  >> I WOULD RECOMMEND NOT THAT  SET IN IT IS. MEAN IT'S NOT ON  MY NOTES THAT WE REMOVED  RIGHT, I'M SORRY THAT WE WE  MEAN IT REMOVE THE WEATHER FOR  YOU TO PROVIDE FUNDING PLACE  IS SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.  >> MEAN MY COMMENT TO THIS  ITEM WAS THAT. HE OWNED LAST I  CHECKED WE STILL ON THE  MINERAL SPRINGS LAND. AND THAT  68 YEARS OF SARS AND SO THE  WAY I SEE PARTNERSHIP SAYS.  DONATE THE LAND AND THEY  DONATE THE REST OF THE MONEY.  LIKE THAT'S HOW I SAW IT AND  IN MY CONVERSATIONS WITH  MISTER HYNES ON REPEATED  OCCASIONS AND LEGACY TRAIL.  SAID TO ME IN NO UNCERTAIN  TERMS.  >> WILL BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND  ALWAYS PAY WE'VE GOT THE LINE.  >> WE'VE GOT THE ALL WE NEED  IS TO LAND. AND I SAID I DON'T  SEE WHY WE WOULD WANT TO  CONTRIBUTE THE LAND. AND SO MY  FEELING IS DOING MUCH  PARTNERSHIP IF WE'RE GOING  CONTRIBUTE TO LAND AND WE'RE  GOING PAY FOR A 900,000 THAT  WAS THE REASON WHY I PUT MIGHT  BE SOMETHING WE WANT TO PUT ON  THE LIST CONSIDERING SOME OF  THINGS WE'RE PUTTING ON A LIST  THAT. THERE IS NO ALTERNATIVE  FOR THIS NOT 25 ALTERNATIVE  CHARLES HYNES WANTS TO  COMPLETE THIS LEGACY TRAIL AND  HIS CONNECTION TO TO TO NAPLES  BUT UNLIKE LET THEM FIND A  MILLION DOLLARS. I MEAN THEY  FOUND FOR THE VAST MAJORITY OF  EVERYTHING FROM SO LONG I  WOULD CERTAINLY THINK THEY CAN  FIND THE MONEY BUT THAT'S JUST  MY OPINION FAITH THAT IS YOU  RELATE TO CONGRESS A CAT I  THINK YOU HAVE THAN 225 IS  OUT.  >> I 25 IS STILL SO THE OUT  LEAVE IT THERE WE  >> HE DID TO DEATH LATER, I  MEAN WE'RE GOING THE BIG  DIESEL ANYWAY, JUST IT'S A  >> WARM MINERAL SPRINGS  MASTERPLAN 5 MILLION. CITY  HALL. YES, THE BELMONT 9.25. A  CONNECTION WITH A PORTABLE  HOUSING 25,000 SHOW COMING IN.  REPLACEMENT 1.3 MILLION.  TROPICAIRE 7.3 MILLION.  >> WHAT ABOUT THE PUBLIC  SAFETY CLASSROOMS TO INTO SAY.  >> THAT WAS YEAH WE THAT TO  EAT SO IT'S ALREADY GONE.  >> THAT'S THE ROADWAY SAY IT'S  ALREADY GONE SAYING THIS TO  LIST SO.  >> WE HAD A 50 MILLION THAT WE  WERE ALREADY TALKING  >> IF THE BOOK NOT LOOK AT 11  YOU'LL THAT WE THAT LIST WAS  OKAY WITH YOU.  >> SO THAT WITH THAT SO THAT'S  >> IT'S ARE WITH IT. PUT THAT  EFFORT RIGHT BACK UP THERE  WITH 11 11  >> OKAY BUT.  >> NO IN THIS LIST. SO THERE'S  5 MILLION WE CAN USE OFF THIS  LIST SINCE SURETY IT IN THE  11 MILLION  >> I MEAN THIS IT'S NOT  AVAILABLE OR TAKE IT SO IT  THIS THAT WE TALK ABOUT IT.  THEY HAS IT YOU CAN TAKE THE  CLASS WILL STARTED ON  >> COVID DO, BUT WHAT I'M  TRYING TO FIGURE OUT OF  >> WHERE'S THE ELC IN ANY OF  THESE 3.  >> KHALSA BUCKETS, IT'S IT'S  NOT THIS WAS THE ORIGINAL  SURTAX FOR LIST WE HAVE MAKE  KOREA CAME UC AND YET THAT'S  THAT'S A SLOT 11.2 11 POINT TO  A CASE OF THE 5 WE CAN OKAY.  ALL RIGHT.  ♪ >> WANT WITH WHICH NUMBER  ♪ 5 COMES UP.  >> YEAH, THOSE 78.  >> NO.  >> 72 0.2 9, 5, WE OFTEN  INCLUDING THIS 50 WE ALREADY  DISCUSSED. UPON A LITMUS  >> OH YEAH THAT'S RIGHT IN IS  7 AND A HALF MILLION OF THE  NEW COMMUNITY CENTER.  >> OKAY, BUT FOR BANK UP AND  THAT WAS IT OF MANY OF THE  MARKET SO THAT CLARIFY JUST TO  CLARIFY THE 50 MILLION THAT WE  WERE USING BEFORE IS NOW TO 72  IS THAT JUST YOU APPROVE  EVERYTHING THAT YOU TO THE NOT  MADE THAT A  >> YEAH AND THAT AGAIN THAT  WOULD BE THE TOTAL PRINCIPAL  INTEREST SO THAT'S NOT. THE  AMOUNT WE CAN ZOOM OUT WE CAN  USE IS GOING TO BE LESS THAN  THAT. 60 MILLION 55 MILLION.  >> WORK ON THAT COMING UP  TOMORROW MORNING. SEAN.  >> YES, MY LIGHT IS  >> PUBLIC WORKS YOU SHOW IS  BEING OUT. HE CITES PRICE  BOULEVARD TO WHICH WAS PUBLIC  THE CARE. ONLY THING THAT  WOULD I'M OR NOT I UNDERSTAND  THAT I'M JUST. THE.  >> PUBLIC POLICE 13 1.3  MILLION FOR THE MOBILE COMMAND  IS WHAT WAS AND THE 5 MILLION  WAS ALREADY OUT TO BEGIN WITH  FOR EMC. THANK YOU.  >> INTERESTING YOU KNOW GET  NONE OF THIS IS SET IN STONE  AND NAILED DOWN AND THIS IS  VOTING ON. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT  THIS COUNTY 70 STRAIGHT DOWN  TO 5560 MIL AND YOU LOOK AT  THESE NUMBERS AND WE KNOW  WE'VE GOT POLICE HEADQUARTERS  AROUND YOU 122 WHEN YOU SHAKE  IT ALL OUT, WE ARE STILL  WOEFULLY SHORT, WHICH MEANS  THAT. EVEN IF WE DID  EVERYTHING WE'RE TRYING TO DO  HERE. LOOKING AT.  >> A SHORTFALL OF IT SEEMS THE  16 NUMBER WE'RE LOOKING AT  60 MILLION AND SO ONE MIGHT  PURSUE CAN COME FROM HERE  THERE EVERYWHERE, BUT  BASICALLY WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT  35 MILLION DOLLARS FROM  PROPERTY TAXES WERE LOOKING  MORE LIKE 55 TO  >> IF WANTED TRY TO ONE 22.  JUST JUST TAKE AS A FRAME OF  REFERENCE AGAIN BECAUSE IT'S  ALL FIGURING OUT WHERE BELT IS  GOING TO AND HOW MUCH. WE WANT  TO GO OUT SCORE CITIZENS TO DO  EACH OF A COMMISSIONER  MCDOWELL.  >> DON'T LOSE SIGHT THAT WE  STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH OUR  CIP PROJECTS AND WE STILL  POSSIBLY ARE GOING TO BE  SELLING PROPERTY. SO I DON'T  WANT ANYBODY'S GOING OUT THERE  AND THANK YOU FOR A MOMENT WE  GOT 60 MILLION ON THE BACK THE  TAXPAYERS GOT TO TELL THE REST  OF THE STORM SALUTE BUT IN  WE'RE CHIPPING AWAY.  >> YES, YOU ARE IT'S  CAREFULLY. AND THEN THE BRINGS  YOU BACK TO WHAT WE SAID IN  THE BEGINNING THAT 122 MILLION  OR A 100 ACTUAL WE TALKED  ABOUT IT'S A BIG DIFFERENCE SO  TO A LOOK AT WITH NO MILLAGE I  WOULD BE VERY HAPPY LET'S JUST  KEEP IN MIND WHEN THEY GO BACK  AND LOOK AT CMP.  >> THE ONLY FUNDING SOURCES WE  WILL BE LOOKING AT BEING ABLE  TO USE WOULD HORSEMAN IMPACT  FEES. OUR GENERAL FUND.  >> I NOT GENERAL GOVERNMENT.  WELL IT.  >> BECAUSE WE HAVE A LAW  ENFORCEMENT IMPACT FEES, SO  GENERAL GOVERNMENT IMPACT  FEES. WOULDN'T BE APPROPRIATE  FOR THIS MIGHT. AWAY OKAY  COMMISSIONER NOW. FOR LUNCH,  YEAH, YEAH, YOU'RE YOUR NAME  IS UP TO MAKE SURE WE OK SO  THERE'S 30 MINUTE SO WE GO  WITH THAT CHART OKAY. HAD ONE.  >> IT'S A SENSIBLE DEVELOPMENT  SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT.  >> AND ABOUT A MONTH THAT IN  LYON WAIVES WHAT WE DO HAVE  ALREADY HAVE HASTENED WE WANT  TO PRESERVE AS MUCH AS WE CAN  OF NATURAL RESOURCES, SO THAT  IS STILL PLACE POLL ON THE OF  ZAW ALL MIKE WRITING BAD  SADDLED THE OF THE SPECIES  THAT AND SURVIVED IT ALL  HABITAT THAT ROLE SYSTEMS. BIG  PART OF.  >> THE WAYS YOU CALL SYSTEMS  FUNCTION, IMPORTANT PARTS FOR  OUR COMMUNITY, OUR LIST THE  SPECIES THEY STABILIZE THE  SOIL THEY PROVIDES SO MANY  DIFFERENT BENEFITS, INCLUDING  SHADE LIMITING THE HEAT ISLAND  EFFECTS WITHIN OUR CITY  ♪ PROVIDING HABITAT PROVIDING  SHELTER FOR THE SPECIES. JUST  TO ALSO FOR OUR IS THAT HE CAN  JOIN MINCE WELL AS AN A LOT OF  WHAT I DO IS.  >> MAKING SURE THAT  DEVELOPMENT CONFORMS TO THE  TREE PROTECTION CODE SO ONE  THING WE ALREADY HAVE IN PLACE  SINCE APRIL OF 2022. IS A TREE  PROTECTION CODE WHICH IS QUITE  ROBUST AND THE CITY OF NORTH  PORT THAT WAS ADOPTED BY  COMMISSION AND THE CITY ALSO A  LOT OF COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT  AND SO WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO  HAVE THE TREE PROTECTION CODE  SO.  >> WHAT A LOT OF WHAT I DO IS  MAKING SURE THAT DEVELOPMENT  IN THE RESIDENTIAL OR  COMMERCIAL CONFORMS TO THAT  CODE WE ALL SUCH A PASSIONATE  TEAM WE COME FROM.  >> FACT I THINK BETWEEN US WE  HAVE A 100 OF EXPERIENCE AS WE  ARE EVERY DIME RIGHT WING TO  GO OUT AND YOU KNOW WE KNOW  HE'S CUT OUT WITH A  ♪ HAPPY TO TAKE THE CHALLENGE TO  DIVISION COMMUNITY  INVOLVEMENT.  >> AND LEADERSHIP IN THE CITY  WE REALLY HAVE TO MAKE GREAT  STRIDES AND PROTECTING WHAT WE  HAVE HERE AND FINDING THAT  BALANCE WITH DEVELOPMENT AND  ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP, I'M  EXCITED TO BE A PART OF THIS  TEAM REALLY.  >> SEEKING AND LOOKING FORWARD  TO THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO  BE ABLE TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.  ♪ >> REX HAS A FULL CLASS TRX TO  CAMP IS A NEW CLASS FOR ME,  ALTHOUGH I'VE BEEN USING TRS  FOR MANY YEARS WITH PERSONAL  TRAINING THAT I DO OR IN OTHER  STYLES CLASSES THAT I'VE DONE.  BUT AN ACTUAL FOCUS WITH JUST  TRX THIS IS A NEW CLASSROOM. I  LOVE THE CAMARADERIE AT TO SAY  WITH ALL  ♪ THE PARTICIPANTS. I THINK WE  HAVE A LOT OF FUN. FIRST OF  ALL EVERYONE GETS TO THE MANS  THAT YEAR EXPENSE OF BEING  THAT WE HAVE 5 STATIONS SO WE  HAVE OVERFLOW ARE MORE THAN 5  PEOPLE. PART OF THE PEOPLE ON  THEM AND THE OTHER PEOPLE ARE  DOING FOR WORK AND THEN WE'LL  SWITCH SO EVERYBODY GETS AN  OPPORTUNITY TO BE AN ALL  STATIONS JUST COME HAVE FUN  WITH IT MAKING YOUR OWN IT'S  NOT SCARY. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO  BE INTIMIDATING AT ALL YOU'RE  USING YOUR BODY WEIGHT USING  THE ANGLES THAT YOU CHOOSE TO  USE ON THE MAN'S AND IT JUST  VARIES WITH HOW YOU'RE  COMFORTABLE AND HOW YOU'RE  FEELING WHEN YOU'RE HERE.  >> STARTED WITH CHARLOTTE  COUNTY UTILITIES AS A METER  READER IN 2004. SO THAT'S KIND  OF WHERE I GOT MY FOOT IN THE  DOOR AND WANT REACH A POINT MY  LIFE THINGS ARE MORE STABLE  AND I DECIDED TO LEAVE  CHARLOTTE COUNTY UTILITIES.  AND I WENT AND GOT MY INTERNS  LICENSE THOSE VERY EXCITING  DOING THAT FOR A SHORT PERIOD  OF TIME, BUT AFTER A WHILE I  STARTED THINKING ABOUT THE  UTILITY. IT WAS IN MY HEART AT  THIS POINT I HAD ALMOST 12  JUST 2 MONTHS, SHY OF 12 YEARS  AND AND SO I REALIZED DURING  THAT TIME. MY HEART WAS IN  UTILITIES AND SO I STARTED  LOOKING AROUND AGAIN I THINK  OPENING HERE AT ABC IN THE  TECH, SO I APPLIED AND I GOT  IN TYPICALLY I GET HERE AT 7  IN THE MORNING. I GET MY LIST  YOU KNOW IF I CAN GET TO THIS  THIS IS WHAT I NEED TO DO AND.  >> I GET IN MY TRUCK IF I NEED  ANY SUPPLIES PARTS TOOLS BASED  OFF OF THE WORK I WAS GIVEN  THAT MORNING, I'LL PICK THAT  UP HERE AT OUR SHOP AND THEN I  HEAD OUT IN THEM. MICHAEL FOR  THE DAYS GET AS MUCH WORK AS  THAT WAS ASSIGNED TO DONE AS  POSSIBLE. AND SOMETIMES THAT  HAPPENS AND OTHER TIMES  THERE'S A LOT OF FIRST  RESPONSE CALLS THAT COME IN MY  FAVORITE PART IS THE  UNIQUENESS NOT KNOWING WHAT  I'M GOING TO BE FACED WITH  EVERY DAY. IT COULD BE  DIFFERENT. IT'S NOT MUNDANE  ANYWAY.  >> AND IT'S EXCITING WHEN YOU  GET A CALL AND YOU'RE YOU'RE  ON YOUR WAY YOU DON'T KNOW  WHAT IT IS AND YOU YOU HAVE  THE EXPERIENCE AND THE  KNOW-HOW AND THE BACKING TO  FACE WHATEVER IT'S GOING TO BE  SO I FEEL VERY CONFIDENT IN  FACING THESE CALLS AND I THINK  THAT'S PART.  >> PROMISE ALWAYS INTERESTED  IN PORT. HERE TODAY, WITH MARY  OF ANY PLAYER SCHEDULE FOR THE  CITY OF NORTH PORT SOLID WASTE  DIVISION WE'RE GOING TO TALK  ABOUT PICKUPS TODAY. I HAD A  SCHEDULED VOTE PICKUPS WHAT  SHOULD GO OUT AND WHAT SHOULD  NOT GO OUT TO THE CURRENT  WHERE TO PLACE THE ITEM TO  THEM WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU HAVE  MORE THAN WHAT A LOT OF CHIEF  OF THE YEAR PICK UP. SO I KNOW  WE CALL 9, 4, 1, 2, 4, 0, 8,  0, 50 TALK TO OUR CUSTOMER  SERVICE REPS THAT'S CORRECT  HOW TO PICKUP HOW ELSE CAN WE  DO THAT.  >> CAN ALSO GO ON A  WEBSITE NORTH PORT FL DOT  CLICK ON SOLID WASTE AND FILL  OUT A BULK REQUEST FOR  EXCELLENT EXCELLENT SCENARIO  WHEN IN DOUBT.  >> IF A PERSON WANTS TO PLAY  SET OUT WHAT SHOULD TAKE PLACE  OUT. WHAT'S RIGHT THING WAS  THE WRONG THING BASICALLY  FRANK ANYTHING THAT DOESN'T  FIT IN THE CONTAINER THAT'S  GARBAGE IS GOING TO GO  CURBSIDE GOING TO STAY OFF  DRIVEWAYS WHAT'S NOT ACCEPT  THAT IS TIRES CHEMICALS.  >> STUFF LIKE THAT YOU CAN PUT  YARD WASTE OUT THAT'S  CONSIDERED BALK BUT JUST MAKE  SURE IT'S SEPARATE FROM  GARBAGE PILE CONWAY SAYS A  SEPARATE PICKUP, SO WHAT  HAPPENS IF I USE ALL MY UP  BOTH THE COUNTRY COULD  QUESTION. SO YOU CAN HAVE MORE  BUT HAVE TO PAY IT CAN BE 1650  CUBIC YARD AND THAT'S LINKED  TIMES WITH TIME TIGHT DIVIDED  BY 27 IS ONE COULD PICK OUT  ANY QUESTIONS OF COURSE LET'S  NOT GIVE US A CALL  941-240-8050.  >> I'M STACEY LOVES OF  EMERGENCY MANAGER FOR CITY  WORK AND I'M GOING DISCUSS  FIRST RESPONDERS AFTER STORM,  SO IT MAY TAKE A WHILE FOR  FIRST RESPONDERS TO GET THE  STORM AND THAT'S DUE TO A  VARIETY OF REASONS. ONE ALL  FIRST RESPONDERS OFF THE  ROADS, THE TROPICAL STORM  FORCE WINDS ARE SUSTAINED FOR  THEIR SAFETY AND THAT IS A  STANDARD TO IN OTHER STATES  THAT SO WE WILL HAVE A BACKLOG  OF CALLS THAT HAVE COME IN  DURING THE STORM THAT WILL  PRIORITIZE BASED ARE GOING TO  ANOTHER RESPONDING TO AS WELL  AS THE CALLS THAT ARE  CURRENTLY COMMUNICATOR. ALSO  ON THE ROADS MIGHT BE FLOODED.  THERE MIGHT BE DEBRIS IN THE  ROADS ARE TECHNICAL FIRST IN  TEAMS WILL BE GOING OUT RIGHT  AWAY TO CLEAR THE ROADS ANY  HAUSER'S US SO THAT OUR  ♪ VEHICLES CAN GET THROUGH AND  RESPOND THE CAUSE. JUST KEEP  THAT IN MIND WHEN YOU CALL  AFTER DISASTER FOR CITIZENS,  WE ARE COMING. WE ARE VERY  IMPORTANT AS WE CARE ABOUT OUR  RESIDENT AND THAT SAFETY, BUT  IT MAY  ♪ JUST TAKE A WHILE FOR US TO  GET TO THE PANDEMIC THAT  >> I'M STACEY LOS YOU KNOW ON  THE EMERGENCY IN WATER THEY  ARE GOING SEE STORM SURGE  FLOODING OVER NEXT SO STORM  SURGE IS STRONG SUSTAINED WHEN  ARE CONSTANTLY GOING OVER A  LONG PERIOD OF TIME OVER THE  GOAL IS PUSHING WATER UP ONTO  NOT HAPPEN. THERE'S A LOT OF  FLOODING A LOT OF BEACH  EROSION ALONG TEACHER AND THE  HOME. HOWEVER THIS STORM CAN  ALSO PUSH WATER OF THE RIVER  PUSHED ON THE MYAKKA RIVER FOR  INSTANCE, THE GULF AND THEN  THE WATER COMING DOWNSTREAM  FROM THE RIVER HAS ORDERED TO  DO BECAUSE WATER TO BACK  FLOODING THAT ALONG WITH A LOT  OF RAIN THAT COMES FROM ALSO  CAUSED INCREASE OF WATER  FLOODING INTO THE RIVER  ♪ AND INTO OUR WATER MANAGEMENT  CAUSING FLOODING WELL. PUBLIC  WORKS WITH A LOT OF WORK  BEFORE THE STORM TO MAKE SURE  THAT OUR WATER LEVELS POSSIBLE  FOR AND THE WAR AGAINST STORM  SURGE AND FLOODING IN OUR  WATER IF YOU WANT ADDITIONAL  INFORMATION ON  ♪ THAT WE HAVE A GREAT DEAL  ABOUT A LOT FOLKS  >> HELLO EVERYONE, MY NAME IS  THE VAN PULL ON THE AQUATICS  MANAGER WITHIN OUR PARKS  RECREATION DEPARTMENT WERE  HERE TODAY AT THE NORTH PORT  AQUATIC CENTER JUST TO TALK TO  EVERYONE ABOUT OUR FLOW FOR  LIFE PROGRAM WE RECOGNIZE THAT  NATIONALLY UNINTENTIONAL  DROWNING IS THE LEADING CAUSE  OF DEATH FOR CHILDREN THAT ARE  UNDER THE AGE OF 4. SO WE HAVE  AN AWESOME PROGRAM HERE CALLED  BLOW FOR LIFE. BLOW FOR LIFE  IS A PROGRAM THAT WE TEACH  THAT STARTS WITH THE  FUNDAMENTALS OF FLOATING  BEFORE WE ACTUALLY LEARNED  SWIMMING. THIS PROGRAM IS  TARGETED FOR THOSE CHILDREN  AGES 6 MONTHS TO AND WHAT WE  WANT THEM TO DO IS WE WANT  THEM TO GET COMFORTABLE IN THE  WATER AND IF THEY ACTUALLY  FALL IN THE WATER OR FIND  THEMSELVES IN A TROUBLED  SITUATION, THEY CAN ROLL OVER  THEIR BACK AND FLOAT WHEN WE  LAUNCHED THIS PROGRAM WE WERE  THE ONLY ONE IN THE STATE THAT  WAS ACTUALLY TEACHING THIS  MILESTONE PROGRAM SO WANT TO  GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO OUR NORTH  ROTARY AS WELL WHO SPONSORED  THIS PROGRAM HERE AT THE  AQUATIC CENTER AND ACTUALLY  PAY FOR A TRAINER TO COME ALL  THE WAY FROM NEBRASKA RIVERS  PROGRAM ORIGINATES THERE WE  PRACTICE AND WE GO THROUGH  WHAT'S CALLED MILESTONES HERE  SO AS SOON AS THE KIDS  PROGRESSIVE, THE MILESTONE WE  CAN CONTINUE MOVING ON THROUGH  THEM AND AT THE END OF IT IT'S  A PRETTY AWESOME PROGRAM WHEN  THEY GRADUATE IS ONE OF THE  FINAL THINGS THAT THEY DO IS  THEY JUMP IN FULLY CLOTHED AND  THEY HAVE TO TURN OVER ROLL  OVER ON THE BACK AND ACTUALLY  BE ABLE TO SCREAM FOR HELP AND  THAT POINT IN TIME, IT'S JUST  AN AWESOME SEGMENT PROGRAM  THAT LEADS RIGHT INTO OUR  LEARN TO SWIM PROGRAM SO THAT  WAY WE CAN MAKE SURE WE'RE  KEEPING OUR KIDS SAFE IN ON  AND AROUND THE WATER.  >> FRANK THOMAS ALWAYS MANAGER  I AM HERE TODAY WITH NOW  REOPENED DIDDY MARIO TELL  PEOPLE HERE HAVE ONLY BEEN  DOING THIS JOB, I'VE BEEN HERE  5 YES 5 YEARS EXCELLENT  EXCELLENT SO MARIO TELL PEOPLE  WHAT IT ENTAILS WHAT YOU DO.  THE PLAN IS SCHEDULED FOR  SOLID WASTE THE CITY I GO OUT  AND I AGREE THE NEW RESIDENTS  TONIGHT, EDUCATE THEM ON  RECYCLE EXCELLENT SOUNDS  INTERESTING VERY SO MARIO WHAT  HE FOUND INSIDE THE RECYCLING  BIN SHOULDN'T BE THERE SO  LET'S TRY TO TELL PEOPLE HOW  TO RECYCLE  ♪ MOST COMMON THING I FIND FRANK  PLASTIC BAGS.  >> SO START TO NOT RECYCLABLE  I FIND JUST POSTING THE  CONTAINER OR THE BAD THE  RECYCLE WITH HIM AND  ♪ MISSION DECIDEDLY CONTAINED  THAT'S RIGHT INSIDE THE BLUE  CONTAINERS. AND THEY SHOULD BE  YOU TAKEN BACK TO THE GROCERY  STORE OR TOSS IN THE TRASH  EVERY YOU SEE A LOT OF  RECYCLING INSIDE THE  CONTAINERS OF I COME ACROSS A  LOT OF OK DON'T WANT TO DO  THAT SO.  >> OKAY, SO IF YOU HAVE ANY  QUESTIONS YOU CAN ALWAYS LOOK  AT OUR WEBSITE WW DOT NORTH  PORT FLORIDA DOT GOV SLASH  SOLID WASTE.  ♪ >> I'M STACEY LOSO I'M THE  EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT  COORDINATOR FOR THE CITY  OF NORTH PORT AND WE'RE GOING  TO TALK ABOUT WHY IT'S  IMPORTANT TO HAVE A GO KIT AND  WHAT SHOULD GO INSIDE OF IT,  IT'S IMPORTANT HAVE A GO BAG  BECAUSE IF YOU WAIT LAST  MINUTE TO PACK THEY'RE  DEFINITELY GOING TO BE ITEMS  THAT YOU'RE GOING TO FORGET  AND THE SCRAMBLE TO GET PUT  TOGETHER SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO  YOUR DOCUMENTS SUCH AS ID'S  INSURANCE PAPERWORK TITLES FOR  YOUR HOME AND YOUR VEHICLES  AND YOUR BOATS JUST SO THAT IF  YOUR HOME DOES FLOOD OR ALL  THOSE DOCUMENTS ARE WITH YOU  AND THEY'RE SAFE BECAUSE YOU  DON'T WANT TO END UP LOSING  THOSE AND HAVING TO TRY TO  REPLACE THOSE LATER ON ALSO IN  YOUR GO BAG THAT YOU SHOULD  THINK ABOUT WHAT MEDICATIONS  YOU MIGHT NEED TO HAVE AHEAD  OF TIME FOR UNDER A STATE OF  EMERGENCY YOU ARE ABLE TO  REFILL PRESCRIPTIONS AHEAD OF  TIME EVEN IF THEY'RE NOT DO  YET. SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO DO  THAT ALSO IN YOUR GO BAGS YOU  SHOULD HAVE NON-PERISHABLE  FOOD FLASHLIGHT BATTERIES, A  RADIO THAT IS BATTERY POWERED  AND EXTRA BATTERIES SHOULD ALL  POWER GO OUT WE WILL BE ABLE  TO BROADCAST ON 97.5 FM ANY  EMERGENCY INFORMATION SO BE  SURE TO HAVE BATTERY POWERED  RADIO READY IN TUNED IN TO 97  POINT.  ♪ >> I'M STACEY LOS ALE AND THE  EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT  COORDINATOR FOR THE CITY  OF NORTH PORT AND I'M GOING TO  TELL YOU THE DIFFERENCE  BETWEEN PLUG DOWNS AND  EVACUATION ZONES ARE IN  SARASOTA COUNTY. WE CALL THEM  EVACUATION LEVELS.  >> SO FLOOD ZONES ARE  GENERATED BY FEMA AND THEY'RE  USED TO DETERMINE THE  LIKELIHOOD THAT YOU'LL FLOOD  AND THEY'RE USED TO DETERMINE  IF YOU NEED FLOOD INSURANCE IF  YOU HAVE A MORTGAGE ON YOUR  HOME. NOW THE EVACUATION ZONES  ARE BASED ON STORM SURGE DATA  THAT COMES FROM THE NATIONAL  HURRICANE CENTER. AND THEY USE  TOPOGRAPHY AS WELL AS  HURRICANE VULNERABILITY FOR  STORM SURGE FOR THE AREA AND  WE USE THOSE TO DETERMINE WHO  NEEDS TO EVACUATE DURING A  STORM SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO  UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A  DIFFERENCE IF YOU'RE  INTERESTED IN FINDING OUT WHAT  EVACUATION ZONE YOU ARE AND  WHICH WE HIGHLY RECOMMEND YOU  DO. YOU CAN USE YOUR SEARCH  ENGINE OF CHOICE. AND TYPE  SARASOTA COUNTY KNOW YOUR  LEVEL AND THAT WILL TAKE YOU  TO THE SARASOTA COUNTY  GOVERNMENT WEBSITE.  >> WATER IN US WELL THAT'S  KIND OF THE DITCH. MY YOUR  HOUSE IS NOT FLOODING.  ♪ WITHIN US AFTER STORM EVENT.  >> WATER SHOULD  ♪ >> BE IN THAT SWELL UP TO 72  HOURS AFTER THE STORM. THAT  ALLOWS THE FILTER TO GET THE  STUFF THAT CAME FOR ROOM AND  THE ROAD OUT OF THE WATER SO  THAT WHEN REACHES THE HABITAT  IT NO LONGER HAS THOSE  CONTAMINANTS  ♪ AND ALSO PROVIDES OPPORTUNITY  TO SLOW DOWN WATERS SO THAT  THE WATER DOESN'T GO SO FAST  THAT THEIR ROADS.  >> ROADWAYS OR ANY OTHER  INFRASTRUCTURE, SO WHEN YOU  SEE WATER IT'S ONLY YOU KNOW  UP TO 72 HOURS SINCE THE  ♪ >> LAST RAIN THAT IS NOT  LETTING IS DOING ITS JOB.  >> MINE IN THE VAN PULL IT  FROM PRODUCT FACILITY MANAGER  WITH THE CITY OF NORTH PORT  AND TODAY WE'RE GOING TO BE  TALKING WITH YOU GUYS ABOUT  OUR FREE SWIM EVALUATION. IT'S  IMPORTANT THAT WE DO NEED FROM  A VALUATION SO KIDS  REGISTERING FOR SWIM PROGRAMS  THEY GET PLACED IN THE RIGHT  CLASS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT  DOING SOMETHING THAT YOU ATION  IS EVERY SWIM LEVEL HAS WHAT'S  CALLED EXIT SKILL ASSESSMENTS.  SO WHAT WE DO IS WE HAVE YOUR  CHILD GET IN THE WATER AND  WILL GO THROUGH A SERIES OF  DIFFERENT MOVEMENTS CAN YOU GO  INTO THE WATER I CAN YOU SHOW  US YOUR PHONE CALL CAN YOU  SHOW US BACK ALL SHOWS  ELEMENTARY BACK DIFFERENT  STROKES WITHIN AND WHAT WE'RE  DOING IS WE'RE TRYING TO SEE.  YOUR CHILD TEST TO BEFORE IT  BECOMES A CHALLENGE FOR AT  THAT POINT ONCE WE ASSESS THAT  THAT WILL LET YOU KNOW AND YOU  CAN GO AHEAD AND SIGN YOUR  CHILD UP FOR THAT APPROPRIATE  LEVEL THERE. IT'S IMPORTANT  THAT WE HAVE THESE SO THAT WAY  WHEN WE'RE TEACHING A LEVEL  ONE WE DON'T HAVE KIDS THAT  SHOULD POTENTIALLY A LEVEL 2  AND LEVEL ONE CLASS BECAUSE  THEY'RE NOT LEARNING THE  APPROPRIATE SKILLS THAT THEY  NEEDED THAT POINT IN TIME  RIGHT NOW WHEN WE'RE IN FULL  SUMMER WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE  COME BETWEEN 8.10 DEDUCE FROM  A VALUATION JUST AS YOU CAN  HEAR THE WATER SPLASHING IN  THE BACKGROUND SLIDE.  EVERYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT ANY  DAY OF THE THAT OPEN YOU CAN  COME IN AT ANY POINT IN TIME  ENOUGH FOR SOME EVALUATIONS WE  ALWAYS HAVE A CERTIFIED SO  MUCH DOCTOR ON SITE THAT HAVE  YOUR CHILD TAKE A SWIM  ASSESSMENT.  ♪ >> I'M STACEY LASALLE AND THE  EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT  COORDINATOR FOR THE CITY  OF NORTH PORT AND I'M GOING TO  BE TALKING ABOUT HAVING AN  EVACUATION PLAN IT'S A POINT  HAVE AN EVACUATION PLAN AHEAD  OF TIME AND IT'S VERY  IMPORTANT TO WRITE IT DOWN  BECAUSE THAT WAY YOU HAVE IT  SOMEWHERE PRESENT EVERYBODY IN  YOUR FAMILY CAN SEE IT AND  KEEP IT FRESH IN THEIR MINDS  AND YOU ALSO SHARE IT WITH  PEOPLE IN YOUR FAMILY OR YOUR  NEIGHBORS SO THAT THEY KNOW  WHAT YOUR PLANS ARE AHEAD OF  TIME AND HOW TO GET A HOLD OF  YOUR WAY TO LOOK FOR YOU AFTER  A DISASTER FOR YOUR EVACUATION  YOU SHOULD HAVE MULTIPLE  ROUTES TO GET TO LOCATION.  YOU'RE PLANNING TO GO TO JUST  BECAUSE TRAFFIC WAS TRAFFIC ON  75 MIGHT BE GRIDLOCKED THERE  COULD BE SOME VERY GOOD BACK  ROADS TO GET TO WHERE YOU'RE  GOING THAT COULD GET YOU THERE  MORE QUICKLY WITHOUT BEING  STUCK IN TRAFFIC WHEN YOU'RE  MAKING EVACUATION PLAN. WE  USUALLY TELL YOU 4 DIFFERENT  THINGS YOU SHOULD STAY HOME IF  YOU ARE NOT IN HIS OWN THAT'S  BEING EVACUATED AND IF YOUR  HOME IS BUILT TO WITHSTAND THE  FORECASTED STORM IF YOU CAN  STAY HOME. AND YOU EVACUATE  YOUR NEXT OPTION SHOULD BE TO  GO TO A FRIEND OUR FAMILY'S  HOME THAT IS OUTSIDE OF THE  EVACUATION AREA AND IT IS  STRUCTURALLY SOUND TO US AND  THE STORM 3RD OPTION WOULD BE  GO TO A HOTEL. THEY'RE MUCH  MORE COMFORTABLE THAN I'VE  ACCUSATION. CENTER'S 4TH  OPTION WOULD BE TO GO TO ONE  OF OUR EVACUATION CENTER  SARASOTA COUNTY HAS FALLEN  BACK AWAY SHUNS CENTER'S.  THOSE CAN BE FOUND ON THEIR  WEBSITE.  >> WHY DO WE FLOOD. DURING  SIGNIFICANT RAIN EVENTS PORT  NEARLY ALWAYS FLOODS IN  CERTAIN AREAS OF THE CITY.  THIS IS THANKS TO THE LOCALLY  NAMED MYAKKA HACHI CREEK ALSO  KNOWN AS THE BIG SLEW  WATERSHED.  >> THE 195 SQUARE MILE  DRAINAGE AREA FLOWS THROUGH  DESOTO MANATEE AND SARASOTA  COUNTIES THEN THROUGH OUR CITY  TO EXIT AT CHARLOTTE HARBOR.  AS THE CITY OF NORTH PORT IS  LOCATED AT THE LOW END OF THE  BIG SLEW WATERSHED DRAINAGE  SYSTEM. THE CITY'S CURRENT  FLOODING AND WATER QUALITY  CONDITIONS ARE ATTRIBUTED NOT  ONLY TO THE CITY'S GROWTH. BUT  ALSO TO UPSTREAM RUNOFF IN THE  DESOTO MANATEE AND SARASOTA  COUNTY PORTIONS OF THE BIG  SLOW. DURING SIGNIFICANT RAIN  EVENTS PONDING CAN ALSO OCCUR  PONDING OCCURS AND LOW-LYING  AREAS THAT ARE CHARACTERIZED  BY POORLY DRAINED OR SUPER  SATURATED SOILS WITH  BACK-TO-BACK RAINFALL EVENTS  THE GROUND IS TOTALLY  SATURATED WHICH INCREASES THE  RUNOFF DURING A STORM. THE  CITY WORKS HARD TO MAINTAIN  ITS STORMWATER CONVEYANCE  SYSTEM WHICH IS COMPRISED OF  ROADSIDE SWALES DRAINING INTO  79 MILES OF NAMED WATERWAYS.  >> AND 132 MILES OF RETENTION  DITCHES THAT INTERCONNECT WITH  EACH OTHER AND WITH THE MYAKKA  HACHI CREEK. THERE ARE 64  WATER CONTROL STRUCTURES OF  WHICH 23 ARE GATED WATER  CONTROL STRUCTURES 5 ARE GATED  DROP STRUCTURES, 28 ARE FIXED.  WE'RE STRUCTURES AND 8 ARE  DROPPED STRUCTURES. THE  CONTROL ELEVATIONS OF THESE  STRUCTURES ARE DESIGNED SO  THAT WATER IS RETAINED IN THE  WATERWAYS AND A STEP-DOWN  ELEVATION SYSTEM  CONFIGURATION.  >> THIS MEANS THE WATER LEVELS  IN THE WATERWAY SEGMENTS  BETWEEN STRUCTURES  PROGRESSIVELY DECREASES IN  ELEVATION FROM NORTH TO SOUTH  AND FROM EAST TO WEST. THIS  SYSTEM CONFIGURATION ALLOWS  BOTH RETENTION OF STORM WATER  RUNOFF FOR WATER QUALITY  TREATMENT AND STORAGE FOR  POTABLE WATER USE IN  PREPARATION FOR A STORM, THE  GATES ARE OPENED AS NEEDED TO  CONVEY FLOODWATERS.  >> THE CITY HAS AN ONGOING  PROGRAM TO INSPECT AND REPLACE  OLD CORRODED STRUCTURES SINCE  2006 13 OF THE HIGH PRIORITIES  STRUCTURES HAVE BEEN REPLACED  OR REHABILITATED THE CITY ALSO  HAS A PROGRAM TO CLEAR THE  DITCHES OF SEDIMENT DEPOSITS  THAT HAVE ACCUMULATED OVER  TIME AND CLEAR FALLEN TREES  AND DEBRIS IN THE MYAKKA HACHI  CREEK. THIS ALSO HELPS RESTORE  THE FLOW CAPACITY OF THE  WATERWAYS.  >> MY STORY SHORT PORT IS  PRONE TO FLOODING, BUT THE  CITY WORKS HARD TO MAINTAIN  CAN VANCE CHANNELS WATER  CONTROL STRUCTURES AND  PROCEDURES PUT IN PLACE TO  LESSEN THE IMPACT. WHEN THERE  IS A HURRICANE OR SIGNIFICANT  RAIN EVENT. THE CITY GETS INTO  RESPONSE IN RECOVERY MODE  QUICKLY AFTER PLEASE STAY SAFE  OUT THERE.  >> OH MY GOSH.  ♪ >> EVERYONE MY NAME IS MARIO  OF NVIDIA I AM THE PLAN OR  SCHEDULE OR FOR THE CITY  OF NORTH PORT SOLID WASTE I  GET INTO THIS POSITION. FIRST  I WAS RECYCLE DRIVER FOR 5  YEARS FOR THE AND THEN I  BECAME THE PLAN A SCHEDULE  AFTER TAKING AN INTEREST  EDUCATING RESIDENTS ON HOW TO  RECYCLE PROPERTY MY POSITION  MY DAY-TO-DAY USUALLY I START  OUT BY VISITING THE NEW  RESIDENTS THAT SCHEDULE  GARBAGE AND RECYCLING  CONTAINERS TO BE THE LIMIT  AND.  >> I WILL GO SEE THEM AND  EDUCATE THEM ON A SOLID WASTE  GUIDELINES MORE LESS MORE  FOCUSED RECYCLE PART OF AFTER  THAT I WILL DRIVE AROUND THE  CITY AND I ACTUALLY EXPECT  RECYCLE CONTAINERS MANUALLY  ♪ FOR CONTAMINATION. AND THEN I  WILL TAKE CALLS FROM DRIVERS  IF THERE'S  ♪ ANY ISSUES WITH A REPEAT.  GARBAGE CYCLE AND I WILL GO  EDUCATE THE WHAT I LOVE MOST  ABOUT THE PORT IS THERE ARE  FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD.  ♪ I GET TO LEARN ABOUT THE SOLID  WASTE GUIDELINES WHEN THEY  COME FROM AS WELL AS EDUCATE  THEM  ♪ ON THE CITY NORTH PORT'S  ALWAYS GUIDELINES HOW TO  RECYCLE PROPERLY.  >> BELIEVE THAT THE NATURAL  RESOURCES DEPARTMENT WILL BE  INTEGRAL PART FOR THE CITY'S  GROWTH APPROACH OF DEVELOPMENT  IN THE FUTURE WHAT WE REALLY  WANT TO DO IS SEE SENSIBLE  DEVELOPMENT SUSTAINABLE  DEVELOPMENT.  >> AND ABOUT A MONTH THAT IN  LYON WAIVES WHAT WE DO HAVE  ALREADY HAVE HASTENED WE WANT  TO PRESERVE AS MUCH AS WE CAN  OF NATURAL RESOURCES, SO THAT  IS STILL PLACE POLL ON THE OF  ZAW ALL MIKE WRITING BAD  SADDLED THE OF THE SPECIES  THAT AND SURVIVED IT ALL  HABITAT THAT ROLE SYSTEMS. BIG  PART OF.  >> THE WAYS YOU CALL SYSTEMS  FUNCTION, IMPORTANT PARTS FOR  OUR COMMUNITY, OUR LIST THE  SPECIES THEY STABILIZE THE  SOIL THEY PROVIDES SO MANY  DIFFERENT BENEFITS, INCLUDING  SHADE LIMITING THE HEAT ISLAND  EFFECTS WITHIN OUR CITY  ♪ PROVIDING HABITAT PROVIDING  SHELTER FOR THE SPECIES. JUST  TO ALSO FOR OUR IS THAT HE CAN  JOIN MINCE WELL AS AN A LOT OF  WHAT I DO IS.  >> MAKING SURE THAT  DEVELOPMENT CONFORMS TO THE  TREE PROTECTION CODE SO ONE  THING WE ALREADY HAVE IN PLACE  SINCE APRIL OF 2022. IS A TREE  PROTECTION CODE WHICH IS QUITE  ROBUST AND THE CITY OF NORTH  PORT THAT WAS ADOPTED BY  COMMISSION AND THE CITY ALSO A  LOT OF COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT  AND SAY ONE 49 WE'RE BACK  ♪ FROM LUNCH COMMISSIONER EMRICH  ARE YOU THERE.  >> YES, MA'AM AT HOME, I'M ON  TIME.  ♪ ♪ >> WE  >> ALL MOVING ON TO CAPITAL  IMPROVEMENT.  >> I  >> JUST FEW MILLIONS ARE ARE  PREVALENT IS GOING TO LEAD  THROUGH THIS CONVERSATION  YEARS. HERE'S A SUMMARY I  DON'T THINK HE'S GOING THERE'S  A BIT. IT WILL APPLY TO FOR  YOU ACTUALLY WE THAT IS GOING  GET TO GO OUT I DON'T THINK  STILL WITH US. YOU KNOW IS NOT  WITH THOSE THE LONGER HE WILL  BE WORKING WITH OUR TEAM.  >> IT'S A DAY IN THE MORNING  TO GET THE INFORMATION THAT  YOU DESCRIBED WILL BRING TO  POSSIBLE.  >> KIM UNIONS JEREMY IS BACK  HEADED BACK TO THE OFFICE AND  PREPPING THE INFORMATION SO IT  CAN DROP THESE MCLEAN OF TAX  PLAN AND THEN WE'LL DROP THOSE  NUMBERS GET SOME CALCULATIONS  SO THIS WILL BE VERY SHORT IF  DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE LOOKING  AT THE ATTACHMENT THAT YOU  HAVE THAT IS OUR ADOPTED CIP.  >> WEST.  >> 24 3.28 EVERYONE HAVE IF I  CAN DIRECT PAGE 29.  >> THIS IS WHERE THE PROJECTS  THAT WE HAVE A CIP BY FUNDING  SOURCE. SO DIDN'T KNOW BEFORE  WE LEFT THE ONLY ONES WE'RE  GOING TO BE LOOKING AT IS THE  GENERAL FUND ANYTHING THIS IN  THE CIP AND LAW ENFORCEMENT  IMPACT FEES ANYTHING IN THE  CIP SO THE ONLY THING WE HAVE  IN THE CIP FROM 2 FUNDS WITH  PAGE 29.  >> YOU CAN SEE THE TOP SECTION  SAYS GENERAL THERE'S A TOTAL  OF 50,000 PER YEAR BUDGET FOR  20 OR 2526. 7.28.  >> WELL THAT WAS STILL TRYING  HERE I REMEMBER I THINK ALL OF  OUR MEMBERS TRYING TO  >> OF THAT. I'M SORRY IF YOU  COULD TAKE IT.  >> FROM TOP EVERYBODY READY.  SO WE CAN TURN TO PAGE 9 OF  RIVER WOODS GOTTEN THERE YET.  >> YOU KNOW  >> WE'LL  >> SEE YOU AT THE TOP THIS IS  DESIGNATED AS GENERAL THIS IS  EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE IN OUR  5 YEAR CIP FUNDED FROM GENERAL  FUND REVENUES, A HIT. SO THE  TOTAL IS 50,000 EACH YEAR. FOR  THE 5 YEARS. AND THAT IS FOR  THE PARK AMENITIES PROGRAM  THAT WE DISCUSS THAT WE MOVED  TO THE GENERAL FUND THAT'S THE  ONLY THING WE HAVE BUT IN THE  CFP THE  >> THERE SOME THIS IS ALREADY  SPENT ALSO RIGHT. CITY  MANAGER'S OFFICE RENOVATIONS  ARE SO THIS MONEY IS.  >> SPENT YES SO YOU'RE SEEING  SOME ACTUAL EXPENSES ON THE  FIRST COLUMNS FOR THE COLLEGE  YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A PAY WHAT  CAN WE REALLOCATE WOULD BE THE  COLUMN SAYS FISCAL YEAR 24  BUDGET. WE'VE PLENTY 6728 SO  YOU CAN SEE THE TOTALS  AVAILABLE IN THE GENERAL FUND  AND EACH OF THOSE YEARS, THIS  50,000 PER YEAR SO. TOTAL 250  WHAT IS IT. 250,000. AND SET.  >> COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL  YOU'RE IN THE QUEUE WHEN  YOU'RE READY. GENERALLY.  >> I HAVE A GENERAL THAT MIGHT  BE HELPFUL FOR SCENE THAT  LOOKING AT GENERAL IMPACT.  GENERAL GOVERNMENT IMPACTS  NEWS FOR NEW I DON'T KNOW IF  NOW OR ARE WE GOING TO BE  DISCUSSING THAT.  >> I HADN'T PLANNED TO ASSESS  AND THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING  WE CAN LOOK AT I'M NOT SURE  WHERE THAT FOLLOW IF THAT'S  THE RIGHT THING NOTE PLEASE  HELP ME REMEMBER BECAUSE. THE  GENERAL I'M JUST GOING TO ASK  IMPACT FEES. THE SPLIT BETWEEN  CITY OF AND WEST VILLAGES. AND  IT WAS EXPLAINED TO ME I  COULDN'T FIND ANY WEST  VILLAGES IMPACT FEES FOR  GENERAL GOVERNMENT BEING  ALLOCATED IN THE MUTUAL  DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT. BUT IF  IT'S USED FOR BUILDING FOR  GENERAL GOVERNMENT WHICH WOULD  BE COULDN'T WE USE SOME OF  THAT MONEY FOR O C.  >> BELIEVE THAT THE GENERAL  GOT WITH THESE ARE SPLIT THAT  WAY.  >> THEY WANT ALLOCATE IT. THEY  PLEDGE IN ANY TYPE OF  AGREEMENT. I DON'T THINK  THERE'S BETWEEN ONE PART. BUT  I CAN DOUBLE CHECK WITH I FOR  I GUESS.  >> COLLECTED SEPARATELY OKAY  AND SO. THE PROBLEM WITH THE  GENERAL GOVERNMENT IMPACT  THESE AS WE CAN USE IT FOR.  >> EXPENDITURES AND SERVICES  THAT ARE COVERED BY ANOTHER  IMPACT SO SEE IS NOT COVERED  BY ANOTHER IMPACTS SO THAT'S  WHAT I WANT TO LOOK INTO IS  THAT CONSIDERED LAW  ENFORCEMENT IS I CONSIDER  FIRE. THEY BOTH HAVE THEIR OWN  IMPACT FEES SO I WILL GET AN  ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION. I  DON'T HAVE AT THIS MOMENT. I  DON'T KNOW THAT IT COULD BE  USED, BUT I'M HAPPY TO LOOK  INTO IT.  >> IS COMMISSIONER THAT  >> SECOND QUESTION SINCE SEE  WE'LL BE TALKING. $20250,000  AND SEE FACING THAT KIND OF.  IT A QUESTION THAT'S A LITTLE  DIFFERENT AND I I REALLY WAS  HOPING THEY JEREMY BUT PERHAPS  OR DISMISSAL, BUT PERHAPS YOU  KNOW IN CONVERSATION. IT'S  OBVIOUS FROM LOOKING AT ALL  LOOKED AT. FIRST 5 YEARS  EXTREMELY CRITICAL REGARDLESS  WHAT WE DO WHAT COMBINATION.  WE USED TO FUND FIRST 5 YEARS  ARE REALLY REALLY SPORTS LIGHT  AND ENSURE PAXMAN EACH WORK.  SO. AND DO REALLY. EITHER OF  FUNDING STRUCTURE WHETHER IT  BE GENERAL OBLIGATION FIXED  AMORTIZATION OR WHETHER IT BE.  COPS PURCHASE OPTION. WE HAVE  THE ABILITY TO STRUCTURE THE  PALE A GRADUATE IT KIND OF  PAIN SO THAT IN THAT FIRST 5  YEARS WHEN WE'RE EXTREMELY  LEAN. WE COULD HAVE MIDDLE  PAYMENTS AND GRADUATE THEM AND  I KNOW OBVIOUSLY THERE'S OF  COURSE THE THAT GOES ALONG  WITH IT, BUT YOU CAN ONLY YOU  CAN'T GET BLOOD FROM A STONE  AND AND YOU KNOW THE REALITY  IS YOU KNOW AS PERHAPS A  MITIGATING FACTOR IN LOOKING  AT THEY NEED AND THE AMOUNT OF  MILEAGE. WE MIGHT HAVE TO LOOK  TO THIS MIGHT BE A WAY TO HELP  EASE THE BURDEN DURING THE  FIRST 5 YEARS THAT WOULD BE A  GOOD THING TO KNOW AS TO WHAT  OUR FLEXIBILITY, IT'S THERE  THAT'S SOMETHING YOU MIGHT BE  ABLE GET JUST MANY THAT'S  GOING TO BE THE NEXT THING IS  TRYING TO FIGURE A STRUCTURE  AND WHICH THESE FUNDING METHOD  ALL JUST MIGHT MAKE THE MOST  SENSE US AND GIVE US THE  MAXIMUM FLEXIBILITY TRY TO  FIGURE OUT WAY TO DO THIS  BELIEVED THAT IS A POSSIBILITY  AND THAT'S HE'S GOING TO BE  LOOKING AT TODAY AND WE GET  HIM SURTAX THANK YOU KNOW RUN  HORSE.  >> HAD COMMISSIONER.  >> ARE  >> YOU ASKING IF WE WANT TO  REMOVE THAT 50,004 QUIT MEANT.  >> MATERIALS AND FOR THE ONLY  THING WE HAVE TO CONSIDER WHEN  WE OKAY WE'VE DONE THE SURTAX  LOOK THROUGH NOW NEED TO SEE  AT THE LOOK THE ONLY THING WE  HAVE POSSIBILITY TO REMOVE.  >> AS WE LOOK TO THE CIP  SHEETS IS DISTRICTS IMPACT  FEES OR ON TEST PLACES THAT  ARE NOT UP FOR CONSIDERATION,  IS THAT WHEN HEAR.  >> DOES I I THINK QUESTION  WOULD NEED TO BE ASKED BUT YOU  KNOW PARKS AND REC IS ALREADY  BUDGETED THIS $50,000 AND I'M  SURE AT THIS POINT TIME AND  WE'RE HALFWAY THROUGH THE  YEAR. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY  HAD SENT OUT OF P O OR I WENT  OUT FOR WHERE THEY IN THIS  PROCESS WE'RE 6 MONTHS INTO  THE YEAR SO I BEFORE WE COULD  MAKE A DECISION I THINK WE  NEED TO KNOW WHERE THEY AT.  ONLY WITH AVAILABLE ALL RIGHT  >> STILL SHE SAID SHE NEEDED  DIRECTION. WANTED TO.  >> AND SOMEHOW PARKS  IMMIGRATION SEVERELY  CHALLENGED IF YOU TOOK AWAY  THAT 50,000 WE HAVE A CURE FOR  PARK AMENITIES AS FOR  REPLACING ITEMS THAT ARE  BROKEN YOU WHERE THEY'RE AT  PARKS THROUGHOUT ENTIRE PARK  RIGHT NOW FOR THAT 50,000 WE  HAVE ALREADY IDENTIFIED ALL  THE ITEMS THAT GET THIS YEAR  WE ARE WAITING ON THAT  STARTED.  >> AND BROKEN THINGS POSE A  DANGER I WOULD THINK THE  PUBLIC.  >> YEAH THE MINIMUM WE HAVE  REMOVE AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE  THAT MONEY THERE WE DIDN'T  HAVE THE MONEY REPLACE THAT.  >> REMINDED I WOULD I WOULD  JUST SAY NOT INCLINED TO  REMOVE THAT FUNDING. NEED TO  TAKE CARE OF WHAT WE HAVE.  >> ANYONE ELSE. WANT TO SPEAK  TO.  >> YES THE THAT THEN  >> I GUESS WE DO NEED TO  DISCUSS DO WE NEED TO THE  MATTER TO SIGN. GETTING TO A  GETTING 200%. THAT'S WHAT I  BELIEVE COMMISSION BUT THAT  WASN'T ONE OF THE REASONS NOT  ♪ THE REASON. WELL CONVERTED  THIS OVER WHEN ACTUAL SPECIAL  MEETING. THE CUTS TIME TO  WASTE AND I GUESS WHAT THE  YEAR. PROJECT AND FOR IT, I'M  THAT YES SO ELSE MAKE SOME  ARRESTS SO I DON'T KNOW 7  COMPENSATION.  >> THIS IS MY THEORY WAS IN  TITLE OF THE DECISION IF YOU  MAKE IT TODAY THE TRUCK ALMOST  4 MILLION DOLLARS. OUR GENERAL  IMPORTANT RECALL $2 AND THAT  IS ONLY LOST IDENTIFY.  >> THAT MARKS HAVE. 4  BREAKDOWN LIKE OVER THE NEXT  12 MONTHS 18 MONTHS HOW WOULD  THAT BE SPENT LIKE ONE SHOP  GREAT, YOU KNOW THEY DID TALK  TO EVEN CHIEF ABOUT IT BEING  ABLE STAGGER AS SO I THINK BY  THE TIME FIRST POINT 2 MILLION  DOLLARS ISH.  >> YOU WILL BE GETTING CLOSE  TO THE END YOU HAVE A BETTER  SHAPE. THE GROWTH AND GOES  PHONE.  >> SO SO WE GO OUT ALL AND  THEN WE'RE COMMITTING TO THE  FULL CONTRACT. SO WHAT WILL  SPEND THE 4 MILLION.  >> GO OUT BUT WHAT CAME I KNOW  IT ONES WILL BUT YEAH  COMMITMENT SPEND  >> THIS YOUNG PERSON 0.8 IN  THE FISCAL NEXT. THINK IT WILL  WE CAN  >> ANY OTHER. QUESTIONS ON  THAT. COMMISSIONER DOW.  >> FUND BALANCE FOR GENERAL  SON HAS 7 POINT.  >> 8 MILLION AVAILABLE AND.  >> YES KIDS TO USE 4 MILLION  THE DESIGN AND PERMITTING FOR  PORT PD HEADQUARTERS. THAT'S  ONLY GOING LEAVE US ABOUT 3.8.  CASE WE HAVE SOMETHING ELSE  THAT COMES UP IN THESE NEXT 6  MONTHS.  ♪ >> 1.8 WOULD BE THIS YEAR AND  THE REST NEXT YEAR BEFORE WILL  BE TO BE AN IMPACT TO THE  GENERAL FUND BALANCE NOW PAY  ISN'T RIGHT, BUT WE'RE KIND  THEM TO SO WOULD WE WOULD BE  ESSENTIALLY SUBTRACTING  4 MILLION DOLLARS DIANE'S  RIGHT OR WHENEVER  ♪ >> THAT COMES BEFORE US  CORRECT. YES. THAT'S A LOT OF  MONEY TOO.  >> DOESN'T LEAVE US A LOT, HE  SAID ANYTHING ELSE COMES UP IN  THESE NEXT 6 MONTHS WE WERE  COMING INTO HURRICANE SEASON,  2  >> ANYWHERE ELSE. THAT WE CAN  FIND THESE FUNDS THAT ARE  USABLE.  >> I MEAN ANYONE THINK WE JUST  WEREN'T FOR ALL THE PLACES WE  FIND WE DIDN'T FIND IN THIS  CURRENT YEAR.  >> AND AS MY $0.2 THAT THIS.  STATION IS SOMETHING THAT HAS  COME UP THAT WE NEED TO.  >> MOVING ALONG AND 2.  >> HURRICANE IRMA.  >> YOU KNOW THE AND IT WAS  10'S OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. I  MEAN THERE'S NO WAY THAT EVEN  7 MILLION WAS GOING TO DO  ANYTHING. LET'S LET MAKE AN  IMPACT SO.  >> I'M I'M ALL FOR MOVING THIS  FORWARD.  AND I GUESS MY QUESTION THIS  WOULD BE A CONTRACT FOR  DESIGN. WITH THAT BE HELD TO  THOSE EARTH THAT AMOUNT  WHATEVER IT IS OR DOESN'T  THAT'S A WHOLE OTHER THING.  >> YOU KNOW WAY TO MODEL  MEMBERS OF CONCORD MALL PART  OVERALL.  >> YEAH WE WOULD HAVE TO  FIGURE OUT WHAT GOING RIGHT  FOR THIS IS I THAT BE FOR THE  WHOLE HONORED 22 AND THEN WE  COULD CHIP AWAY AT IT. MAKE  MYSELF CLEAR MODEL WAS A  100 MILLION PROBABLY FOR THE  BUILDING AND 22 FOR FURNITURE.  SO THAT IS I WOULD JUST BE FOR  THE BUILDING ITSELF. WE'RE  GOING CORRECT IS THAT THE BILL  THAT'S OKAY, YES RIGHT.  >> THINK THE QUESTION MIGHT WE  HAVE  >> ARE WE START THIS IS I.  SUCH IS THAT YOUR QUESTION.  >> I GUESS SO AS I WAS UNDER  THE IMPRESSION, THE 22 MILLION  WAS FOR FURNITURE AND THINGS  LIKE THAT THAT WASN'T THE  STRUCTURE ITSELF AND DESIGN  WOULD BE FOR THE STRUCTURE  ITSELF ONLY. SO WHAT YOU'RE  TALKING ABOUT THE  >> PART OF CONSTRUCTION IS TO  HELP YOU KNOW WHERE THINGS  WILL GO SO THAT WILL BE  INCLUDED IN DESIGN. THE COST  WELL THAT THEY COME AT THE END  THAT'S WHY THAT'S WITH THOSE 2  OUT.  >> AND THE DESIGN WITH A  THIRD'S 30% NOW AS THEY MOVE  ALONG YOU HAD MAKE THOSE  CHANGES. THAT TAKES PLACE OVER  PROBABLY THE NEXT WE CAN GOING  OVER THE NEXT YEAR TO 18  MONTHS. SO THEY'LL FINE TUNE  THAT DESIGN AS  >> IT FURTHER ALONG WE PAID AN  ADDITIONAL TO COMPLETE THAT  VOTE. YES YOU DO OK PRETTY  COMES OF THE TOP MODEL THAT  WHATEVER YOU IT'S INCLUDED IN  THE COST CAN SO ROLL OVER AND  OVER THERE'S A IF YOU TO THE  MODEL WITH WANTING TO DENY A  TEEN SISTER 4 MILLION TOWARD  MODEL ACTION. SO IT'S NOT ON  TOP OF GOT THANK YOU.  THROUGHOUT. COMMISSIONER  MCDOWELL.  >> BUT THE COST OF DESIGN  DOESN'T MATTER WHAT. PROJECT  HERE WE TAKE THE PROJECT TO  WHETHER IT'S 2065 OR 2050 HAS  NO DIFFERENCE. DESIGN IS  DESIGNED RIGHT.  >> THAT'S FOR THE MOST PART  THAT'S CORRECT OKAY WHEN  YOU'RE AT THAT. WHEN YOU'RE AT  THIS STAGE 20 MILLION IS NOT  MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE IN THE  COST SIDE. A TOTAL 20 MILLION  IN THE TOTAL COST OF THE  BUILDING.  >> VICE MAYOR.  >> IS I KNOW WE HAVE TO BE  CAREFUL WHERE WE USE FUNDS BUT  HOW DO WE. WE HAVE ANY IDEA.  REGARD ANY MORE REIMBURSEMENT  FROM FEMA ANYWHERE ELSE THAT  MIGHT HELP ORPHAN BALANCES  RECOGNIZING THAT THERE ARE  CERTAIN. REIMBURSEMENT STEP  MAY NOT BE ABLE TO TOUCHED  HELP MAKES ME A LITTLE NERVOUS  ABOUT USING HALF OF OUR FUND  BALANCE BUT ARE WE PROJECTING  ANYTHING COMING BACK IN. I  KNOW A LOT THE ROAD AND  DRAINAGE BUT ARE THE MORE  GENERAL FUND REIMBURSEMENTS  THAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING THAT  WILL BOLSTER OUR ON BALANCE.  >> ASKING FOR ISRAELIS AND  THAT'S MAIN TERMINAL. YEAR. I  DON'T THINK WE  >> STILL HAVE REPAIRS TO MAKE  FROM ME AND THAT WILL GO TO  THE GENERAL ON. AND WE'RE NOT  PROJECTING A LARGE REIMBURSED.  COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL.  >> SIRTEX IS THERE ANY  ADDITIONAL MONIES THAT WE CAN  USE BECAUSE I KNOW THAT. LAW  ENFORCEMENT IMPACT FEE HAS A  ONE 0.1 MILLION. FUND BALANCE.  JACK DID. AND SAYS HERE THAT  IT'S. SOMETHING ABOUT 10  POLICE OFFICERS. THEIR  VEHICLES SO 10 POLICE OFFICERS  VEHICLES CAN WE USE OUR TAX  FOR POLICE OFFICERS VEHICLES  AND USE THE. IMPACT FEES FOR  THE NEW BUILDING. I GUESS YOU  COULD, BUT YOU JUST BE TRADING  BE.  >> SHORTING WHAT WE HAVE TEXT  THAT I I SAID IS ROLLING OVER  INTO PAYING FOR THAT SERVICE.  ALL THESE 2 PROJECTS. YOU JUST  BE SURE TO GET THERE TO TAKE  IT SOMEWHERE ELSE. IT WOULDN'T  HELP  >> I JUST WAS BECAUSE IMPACT  FEES IS MORE RESTRICTIVE  COMPARED TO THE SURTAX S WHY  THINKING ABOUT IT AND.  >> AND IN THAT JUST THE  700,000 YOU'RE GOING TO SEE  NEXT WEEK IN A BUDGET BENEFIT  THE VEHICLES FROM LAW  ENFORCEMENT IMPACT FEES ARE  ALSO GOING TO SEE WE HAVEN'T  THEIR TEAM 1000 OUT OF  GENERAL, JUST AND OFFICERS.  THE RAPID PACE FOR SALARY AND  BENEFITS DOES NOT PAY FOR  OPERATING CAPITAL CROSS  RELATED WITH HIRING OFFICERS  THERE WILL BE SOME GENERAL  GENERAL GOVERNMENT OR GENERAL  FUND. I'M NOW GOING TO THAT AS  WELL. TRYING  >> NOT USE GENERAL FUND VICE  CHAIR. YOU'RE JUST YOU'RE THAT  GOOD.  >> ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS.  >> MADE A DECISION YOU ARE THE  >> WELL YOU KNOW MOTION. YES  MISSION.  >> KNOW YOU KNOW I THINK  REALLY  >> SO I'VE HEARD A LITTLE BIT  OF HESITATION ON THE 122.  DESIGN THAT WE GAVE.  AUTHORIZATION TO MOVE FORWARD  WITH IF WE. GIVE AUTHORIZATION  TO DO DESIGN.  >> THAT WOULD BE BRINGING INTO  THE 122 MILLION DOLLAR  PROJECT. I AT THIS TIME IF  ANYBODY IS INCLINED TO.  ♪ ♪ RESCIND THAT. MOTION THAT WE  ALREADY MADE. BRING THE NEW  100% DESIGN PLANS. IS IT GOING  TO BE TO THE ONE 22 YEARS ARE  GOING TO BE TO THE 100. THAT  MAKE IT.  >> MAKING SENSE TO ME I KNOW  WHAT YOU'RE ASKING DO, I MEAN  IS IT APPROPRIATE AT THIS TIME  TO CONSIDER. WITH THIS PROJECT  IT'S BECOMING VERY ALL THE  STOPS ONE 22 IS JUST NOT  ATTAINABLE WITH AL. SUCH  ASTRONOMICAL MILLAGE RATE IF  DISCOUNTED IF YOU JUST COUNT  DOWN THE 73 TO WHAT WAS SAID  PRIOR TO LUNCH, WE'RE LOOKING  MAX ABOUT 60 MILLION. SO IF  YOU START WITH A 100 MILLION  DOLLAR PROJECT TAKING  20 MILLION OFF FOR THAT.  >> YOU THE THE CONTINGENCIES  AND PERSONAL WHICH WE CAN FIND  A WAY TO PAY FOR SOME SOME WAY  TO SELL ASSETS. WHATEVER YOU  NAME IT WE'RE DOWN TO A T.  >> WELL SAID TO 60 WE'RE  LOOKING AT 20. SO WE DO NEED  TO CONSIDER SCHOOL PROJECT I  MEAN I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE  WOULD FOR US COME UP WITH  ANOTHER 22 MILLION.  >> NOW ASKING MILLAGE RATE  INCREASE WHICH.  >> COULD ALL GO TO VEGAS.  >> WITHOUT MAYOR ALSO  COMMISSIONER IMAGE  >> I THOUGHT I JUST WANTED TO  JUMP ON WORK THOUGH WAS SAYING  WAS BROUGHT UP EARLIER. WE LET  AND WHAT 100 MILLION DOLLAR  DESIGN BUT INCORPORATING SO  ABOUT 2 TO ONE 25 MILLION  DOLLARS I'M FUTURE USE LIKE  THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE OUR  BATHROOM, YOU KNOW. FLEMING  ALSO BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO BE  ADDED IN THE FUTURE AS LONG AS  WE HAVE THE STUFF OF THEIR  LOCATION THAT CAN ADD ON HIS  SO THAT'S WHY I WAS SAYING  KERMIT BACK TO THE 100 MILLION  DOLLAR PROJECT AND TRY AND  COME WITH THE FUNDS RIGHT.  >> GAME.  >> COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL YEAH,  I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM POLICE  DEPARTMENT BECAUSE YOU KNOW  PART OF THE REASON WHY I MADE  THAT MOTION TO THE 122 WAS  BECAUSE THEIR WAS TO THAT  122 MILLION DOLLAR PROJECT AND  BY BRINGING IT DOWN TO THE  100 MILLION PROJECT IS GOING  TO SIGNIFICANTLY CUT NOT TO  MENTION. THE PROJECTIONS AND  GROW BASED ON THE CONVERSATION  WE HAD A YEAR AGO HAS ALREADY  THE 2025 PROJECTION AND WE'RE  NOT EVEN IN 2025. SO I VERY.  CONCERNED THAT WE ARE. RIGHT  NOW AND IT'S GOING TO HAVE  RAMIFICATIONS IN 3 YEARS THAT  WE WANT A WHITE TO DO THAT.  AND REALLY WOULD LIKE TO SURE.  BECAUSE THE MOTION WAS ONE 22  AND I AM INCLINED TO STICK TO  THAT.  >> IF YOU GIVE REASSURANCES  THAT YEAH 100 MILLION IS GOING  TO BE OK IS IT REALLY AND  TRULY GOING TO BE OK BECAUSE  NOW IT'S GOING TO YOURS NOT  >> WE HAVE OUTLINE THE 1.2  MODEL FOR POLICE MODEL THAT  WOULD GET EVERY SINGLE THING  THEY NEEDED OUT OF 2016. WE  HAVE ALSO SAID THAT YOU  BELIEVE RECOMMENDED THAT I'M  DOING A OF 20 50 GETS TO WHAT  THEY NEED. GIVES THEM A BUILD  OUT FOR A SHORTER PERIOD OF  TIME. WE HAVE VERY HARD TIME  AS YOU ARE STILL HAVING A HARD  TIME GETTING TO THE MORE THAN  3 MILLION DOLLARS. EVEN WITH  THE MONEY THAT YOU MAY OR MAY  NOT USE WHAT YOU'VE IDENTIFIED  TODAY, IT STILL CREATES A  SIGNIFICANT SHORTFALL GET INTO  THAT. SO FROM THE STANDPOINT  APP INCLUDE WE UNDERSTAND AND  RECOGNIZE THAT THE ONE POINT  IT'S EVERYTHING THAT THEY NEED  THAT WE CAN CERTAINLY LIVE  MODEL THAT COST HIM $8.  >> NOT HAVING THE NUMBERS THAT  JUST TALKED ABOUT AND SEEING  WHAT THAT. BUT THOSE NUMBERS  THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT ABOUT  THE SURTAX AND STUFF WHAT THAT  LOOKS LIKE ON PAPER WHAT THAT  IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE AND WHAT  THE POTENTIAL POSSIBLY GOING  TO THE VOTERS IS GOING TO LOOK  LIKE USING COMMISSIONER  STOKES'S NUMBER OF I THINK YOU  SAID 20 MILLION. POSSIBLE  MILEAGE MILEAGE RATE AS FAR  LESS THAN 35.  >> OR 42 SO  >> IT CAN ONLY FOR MYSELF I AM  NOT INCLINED TO GIVE DIRECTION  ONE WAY OR THE OTHER IS ABOUT  CHANGING THE SCOPE OF THE  PROJECT UNTIL AFTER WE HAVE  THAT DISCUSSION TOMORROW TO  MAKE SURE.  >> THAT.  >> YOU KNOW A COUPLE OF DAYS  IS GOING TO MATTER AT THIS  POINT IN TO MAKE SURE THAT THE  NUMBERS ARE THERE AND MAYBE  THOSE NUMBERS ARE SOMETHING  THAT WE ALL CAN KIND OF. MOVE  FORWARD WITH WITH THE ONE 22.  >> AND SOMETHING THAT MAY BE  HELPFUL FIGHT THIS WAY. BILL  WHAT YOU HAVE MONEY TO AFFORD.  DOLLARS WHICH YOU HAD GO ALONG  WITH DOLLARS. THE NUMBERS COME  BACK SAY WITHOUT 110 MILLION  DOLLARS. WE YOU HAVE A  100 MILLION DOLLARS YOU FEEL  $200 WOULD HAVE. WE SHOULDN'T  CASE THE NUMBER AROUND UP AND  DOW YOU SHOULD. DIRECTION TO  YOU KNOW WHAT WE CAN AFFORD.  IT'S BEEN CLEAR SOME OF  DOLLARS IS NOT USE THE  AFFORDABLE BECAUSE THIS TRIP  AND A LOT LEVELS OF I WANT YOU  COME. SO I WOULD NOT FACE IT  ANY FURTHER THAN A 100 MILLION  AND THAT IS YOU'RE THE WANT  GET YOU OUT  >> YOU'VE HEARD WHAT THAT  MEANS IT MEANS THAT ANYTHING  OR DONE A 100 IS GOING TO BE.  >> OUR IS AND WE IS THAT VERY  GOOD. I DO BELIEVE WE HAVE AN  OWNERSHIP ROLE FINDING SOME OF  IS WHY WE TALK ABOUT THE SALE  OF THE BUILDING WILL AND WITH  THE SELLER PROPERTIES THEN WE  WENT TO WHAT I WENT TEAM  COULDN'T COULDN'T DO FROM  APPROPRIATION THE FEDERAL  LEVEL. A 100 IN THIS GRAY.  BEEN MORE THAN A 100 IS GOING  TO BE EVEN TOUGHER. UNDER A  100 NOT GOING TO NEED THE  MODEL THAT WE ALL THE FLOOR  WITH  >> COMMISSIONER LANGDON. I'LL  TAKE A PASS.  >> IT WILL BE HELPFUL I THINK  IN THE NEXT DAY OR A COUPLE OF  DAYS TO SEE THE IMPACT IF IF  WHAT THE MILLAGE RATE, YOU  KNOW WE PROTECTED ORIGINALLY  THE MILLAGE RATE 30'S BASED ON  35 INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT  WHAT IT WOULD KUWAIT TO A 20.  AND WHAT WOULD EQUATE TO IT  42. WE GO THE FULL ONE BOTH IN  TERMS OF DOLLARS PER YEAR FOR  OUR CITIZENS AS WELL AS A  PERCENTAGE BECAUSE DESPITE THE  FACT THAT YOU REALLY SPEND  REAL DOLLARS THE PERCENTAGES  TO MATTER AND AND YOU KNOW.  >> THEY SORT OF. UNTIL IT WILL  BE GOOD TO KNOW THOSE BECAUSE.  YOU KNOW FIGURE INTO IT.  WHATEVER DECISION EVENTUALLY  MAKE CAN.  >> ALL I LIGHT BACK ON OTHER I  JUST WANT TO THAT TO THE 2  OBJECTIVES THAT I THINK WE WE  DIDN'T VOTE BUT.  >> THEY SAID WE WANTED TO  MILLAGE RATES AND WE WANTED TO  AVOID CUTTING REALLY ESSENTIAL  SURTAX FUNDED PROJECTS. I  THINK JUST GONE THROUGH AN  EXERCISE WHERE WE IDENTIFIED  DOES SARAH TAX PROJECTS THAT  COULD CANCELED ARE  REALLOCATED. AND. ALREADY  IDENTIFIED. WHAT THE MILLAGE  RATE INCREASE MIGHT BE, I'M  LOOKING AT IT THAT ANY  ADDITIONAL FUNDS THAT WE FIND  GOES TO ELIMINATING NEED FOR  MILLAGE RATE INCREASE A  PROPERTY TAX INCREASE. SO IT  SO THAT WE HAVE A CHECK NEXT  TO IDENTIFY PROJECTS THAT WE  CAN LIVE WITHOUT LEAST IN THE  SHORT TERM. AND SECOND WE'RE  GETTING VERY CLOSE TO NEEDING  A MILLAGE RATE INCREASE SO.  PERSONALLY I THINK WE'RE IN A  GOOD PLACE. I USE AND WHAT YOU  HAVE YOU DON'T SPEND WHAT YOU  DON'T HAVE AN. A 100 MILLION  AND AND I'VE ASKED THIS  QUESTION OF MULTIPLE PEOPLE  MULTIPLE TIMES 100 MILLION  DOLLAR PLAN WHICH TAKES US TO  2050 GROWTH. GIVES POLICE  EVERYTHING THEY WANT IN TERMS  OF THE FUNCTIONALITY OF THAT  BUILDING. IT'S JUST HOW BIG DO  WE MAKE IT WHAT'S THE  FOOTPRINT. EVEN WITH THE  100 MILLION DOLLAR PLAN THERE  ENOUGH LAND. THEY TO EXPAND  YOU KNOW IT'S NOT LIKE WE RUN  OUT OF ROOM ARE OR ANYTHING  LIKE THAT SO. I THINK THAT  THAT POLICE GET EVERYTHING  THEY WANT IN TERMS OF  FUNCTIONALITY IT WILL BE BIG  ENOUGH TO 2050. I THINK IF  BILL TO BE ON WE RUN THE RISK  OF HAVING TO MAKE MAJOR  REPAIRS TO WHATEVER IS IN  ADDITION TO EXPANDING AT WE  KNOW HOW RISKY THAT CAN BE AND  I THINK A 25 YEAR WINDOW IS  FAIR AND SUFFICIENT. ALL RIGHT  GONNA BUT MY.  >> MY COMMENTS THANK YOU  COMMISSIONER LANGDON FOR. I  MEAN THAT ALTOGETHER BECAUSE  100 MILLION WEALTHY AND REALLY  IT'S DOABLE. ALL OR  COMMISSIONER LANGDON BROUGHT  OUT WHICH I FORGOT ABOUT THAT  THERE IS ROOM TO EXPAND OUT SO  THAT THAT COULD BE  ACCOMMODATED IT. DECADES DOWN  DOWN AND ALSO WE HAVE TALKED  ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE  BUILDING WE HAVE NOW. POLICE  ARE USING NOT EVEN 20 YEARS  OFF I HAVE THAT RIGHT AND SO  AND HAD ALREADY OUTGROWN IT  AND AND WE TALK ABOUT HOW  TECHNOLOGY CHANGES AND AND  NEEDS CHANGE THAT THEY'RE  USING.  >> THAT BUILDING FOR THINK  THEY NEVER ANTICIPATED USING  20 YEARS AGO SO TO BUILD OUT  THE 2065 WOULD BE LIKE YOU  HAVE TO HAVE A MAGIC. ALL HERE  TO SEE WHAT WHAT POSSIBLY THEY  WOULD NEED THEN THEY DON'T  KNOW. WE NOW THAT BUT.  >> THE 100 MILLION IS YOU  KNOW, I'M NOT ONE THAT'S  TOTALLY AGAINST MILLAGE  INCREASE FOR FOR THIS BECAUSE  IT TO ME WAS REASONABLE, I  MEAN IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT  $26 A YEAR A $50 A YEAR.  >> WE'RE PAYING $46 A YEAR FOR  A ROBE ON FOR ASPHALT SO I.  THINK ABOUT YOU KNOW WHAT'S  REALLY IMPORTANT AND OUR OUR  SAFETY IS IMPORTANT AND I'M  LOOKING FOR IS THAT  CONVERSATION TOMORROW TO  CHAMBER BECAUSE AGAIN  BUSINESSES NEED THE SUPPORT.  TO KNOW THAT WE HAVE A SAFE  COMMUNITY AS A MATTER HAVE A  BUSINESS YOU HAVE YOU CAN  OFFER THE GREATEST THING BUT  IF PEOPLE WANT FEEL SAFE.  COMING HERE BEING HERE. YOU'RE  JUST NOT GOING CUSTOMERS SO.  THAT'S THAT'S IT FOR ME.  COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL.  >> YOU KNOW WE WE SPENT MONEY  AND HIRED A PROFESSIONAL TO  TELL US WHAT WE NEED BASED ON  OUR FUTURE GROWTH. 20 '06 WHEN  WE. AS THE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT  BUILDING THIS POLICE STATION.  >> ROSE WAS NOT A FACTOR FOR  US WAS NOT TAKEN INTO  CONSIDERATION GROWS GROWS  WASN'T WHAT WE CAN AFFORD  THAT'S IT. NO HECK WAS GROW  AND LITTLE WHERE THAT RIGHT  HERE TODAY. THE GROWTH  PROJECTIONS THAT DONE IN 2020.  A YEAR AGO WHEN WE HAD OUR  FIRST WORKSHOP ON THIS SEND  THEM OUR GIRLS WOULD 87,000  PEOPLE IN THE YEAR 2025. WE  ARE AT 86,000 PEOPLE. AS OF  OCTOBER LAST YEAR. SO WE'VE  ALREADY MET THAT PROJECTION.  AND IT'S ONLY GOING TO KEEP  GOING AND IF DO THAT THE 2065.  I'M SORRY THE 2050 PLAN. WE  HAD TO NO SERVICE TO THE  POLICE DEPARTMENT AND FUTURE  COMMISSION AND FUTURE  RESIDENTS BY BUILDING THIS 2  2050. BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO  WITHIN 10 YEARS THAT THEY TAKE  ACTION CAN SEE BASED ON THE  PROJECTIONS THAT EXPERT  CONSULTANT GAME NOW. IF WE'RE  GOING TO LISTEN TO THE EXPERT  CONSULTANT. THEN. WHY DON'T WE  JUST BUILD INTO TODAY'S NEED  TO NOT WORRY ABOUT 2050. IT  MAKES NO LOGICAL SENSE BECAUSE  PART OF THE REASON WE EVEN  TALKED ABOUT THE 2065 WAS TO  MAKE SURE DEPARTMENT HAD  ENOUGH SPACE. MOVE FORWARD.  AND BE ABLE TO BE IN BUILDING  FOR MUCH LONGER TIME AND JUST  17 YEARS. I REALLY WOULD LIKE  TO SEE WHEN THE NUMBERS COME  BACK TOMORROW AND THE NEXT DAY  OR THE NEXT MEETING BEFORE WE  CHANGE WHAT WE ORIGINALLY 41  TO TO THE 122 MILLION POUNDS.  >> VICE MAYOR. I FIND MYSELF  AGREEING. THERE IS A OBVIOUSLY  CITY MANAGER SAID YOU KNOW  GETTING TO THE 100. IT'S A  HEAVY LIFT. GETTING TO 922.  IT'S A HER KILLING LIFT. I'M  NOT READY TO FORGO. REACHING  FOR THE 122 BECAUSE AS  COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL SAID, WE  DON'T LISTEN TO OUR SUBJECT  MATTER EXPERT I COULD NOT  BELIEVE THIS IS ABOUT EMPIRE  BUILDING. I DO NOT BELIEVE FOR  ONE MINUTE THAT THERE'S  ANYTHING IN THIS 122 ISN'T A  TRUE NEED.  >> AND I 2 WORRY ABOUT WITH  THAT INCREDIBLE EXPLOSION IN  GROWTH IN CITY IT'S 1015 YEARS  FROM NOW I MAY BE THAT SURE  DON'T WANT A LOT OF PEOPLE  SITTING AROUND GOING WHAT  THOSE PEOPLE DO LEARNED FROM  THE PRIOR COMMISSIONS. AND  PLAN FOR THE FUTURE SO I'M NOT  SAYING THAT WE CAN GET TO THE  20 22. WE GET THERE YET WE'RE  GETTING CLOSER I DON'T WANT TO  FORGO YET I REALLY REALLY  REALLY WANT TO SEE US WORK  TOWARDS THAT, BUT THERE IS TO  IT AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING  TO HAVE TO WAIT BECAUSE  ULTIMATELY. WE'RE NOT REALLY  VOTING ON THIS. WE MADE ON  WHAT WE WANT TO PUT OUT THEIR  PR REFERENDUM. TO OUR CITIZENS  BUT IT WILL ULTIMATELY BE OUR  CITIZENS WILL MAKE THIS  DECISION.  >> AND WE JUST WANT TO TRY TO  PRESENT TO THEM. AND LEAST  PAINFUL. PROPOSAL POSSIBLE.  THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN AIMING  WANG HERE AND THIS PROCESS IS  INCREDIBLY TRANSPARENT AND  PAINSTAKING AS WE CAN MAKE IT.  WEEK BECAUSE IT SHOULD BE  ULTIMATELY GOING TO MAKE THIS  DECISION WILL EASIER FOR HIM  TO MAKE A DECISION IF IT'S  ONLY A 100 MILLION DOLLAR  PROJECT AND ONE 22, BUT  ULTIMATELY IT'S AND AND AND I  GOT.  >> I GOT A LOT OF SECOND  THOUGHTS ABOUT TURNING AROUND  AND SECOND GUESSING OR SUBJECT  MATTER PROFESSIONALS. IT IS  GOES AGAINST THE VERY GRAIN OF  EVERYTHING WE DO EVERYTHING WE  TELL PEOPLE WE DO WE RELY ON  OUR SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS  WHETHER THEY BE STAFF OR 3RD  PARTY AND. NOT READY SAY LET'S  GIVE OURSELVES A THIS PROJECT.  >> AS COMMISSIONER AND MERGE  TO DO HAVE SOMETHING LIKE TO  WEIGH IN ON.  >> YEAH SINCE WE'RE TALKING  ABOUT 4TH. ABOUT ONE ONE 22.  ONE THING THAT I I AT THE LAST  MEETING WAS YES WE CAN ALWAYS  GO WITH THE DESIGN OF THE WAS  22. WE CAN ALWAYS GO FOR HOPES  OF RAISING THE MONEY FOR THE  ONE 22. BUT PUSH COMES TO  SHOVE DOWN THE ROAD YOU MAY  ONLY HAVE THE MONEY FOR A 100  AND ALL ARE SITUATION OUT  THERE. SO IF YOU HAVE THE  DESIGN PLAN ALREADY PUT STUFF  OUT FOR THE FUTURE THAT CAN BE  ADDED IN THE YEAR 2 YEARS 5  YEARS, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY  BE ACCORDING TO COST. YOU  WOULD HAVE THOSE ADAMS THEY  WOULD BE PRICED POINTED WHERE  YOU SAY OK DO WE NEED A  FUELING STATION OUT HERE RIGHT  NOW OR DO WE NEED OUT THERE  RIGHT NOW AND CUT SOME THINGS  BACK. FROM THE ONE YOU NEVER  KNOW YOU MIGHT HAVE A  150 MILLION DOLLAR PROJECT  THAT'S ACCESSIBLE. YOU KNOW,  BUT WE DON'T HAVE ALL THAT  INFORMATION WE'RE LOOKING TO  CUT CUT CUT CUT CUT. WE DON'T  REALLY KNOW WHAT WE'RE JUST  CUT DOLLAR MONSTER. YOU KNOW  MAYBE NOT BUT IF SOMEBODY ELSE  LIKE US ALL THESE DIRECTORS  ARE VYING FOR THAT THEY'RE  TRYING TO GET THEIR AS WELL.  THIS COMES IN ON TOP WHICH IS  WE NEEDED I KNOW WE NEED.  EVERYBODY KNOWS WE NEED IT WE  JUST GOT TO COME UP WITH A  PLAN TO GET AND THAT'S WHAT  WE'RE TRYING TO DO DIFFERENT  WAYS BE SUCCESSFUL.  >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.  COMMISSIONER LANGDON THANK YOU  MAYOR, I JUST WANT TO  REITERATE THAT IT'S REALLY  KNOW CUTTING GOING ON THE  100 MILLION DOLLAR PROPOSAL  INCLUDES ALL OF THE ASSETS AND  FUNCTIONALITY.  >> THAT THE POLICE STATED THAT  THEY NEED IT. IT'S JUST A  MATTER OF HOW BIG DO WE BUILD  THOSE ASSETS. AND OUR  CONSULTANT DID AN EXCELLENT  JOB AT DRAWING A PICTURE FOR  US OF WHAT THINGS WOULD LOOK  LIKE AT DIFFERENT PRICE  POINTS.  >> AND DIFFERENT  >> SIZES BASED ON OUR  ESTIMATES OF POPULATION  GROWTH. WE'LL MAKE THE  DECISION TO GO WITH THE ONE  WASN'T REALLY THE CONSULTANT'S  RECOMMENDATION HE SORT OF LAID  OUT THE INFORMATION SO THAT WE  COULD MAKE A GOOD DECISION. I  AGAIN I JUST HAVE TO WOULD BE  VERY HELPFUL I THINK IN MAKING  THE DECISION. I THINK WITH  EXHAUST AND SURTAX I THINK  WITH EXHAUSTED ALL THE  AVAILABLE FUNDS WE CAN THINK  OF. INCLUDING SELLING SOME  ASSETS WHICH ARE BECAUSE WE  DON'T KNOW. THEY SELL EXIT ART  CETERA. THE GASKET HERE IS  MILLAGE RATE. SO I THINK IT  WOULD BE VERY INTERESTING  BASED UPON WHAT WE KNOW I  WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE  100 MILLION DOLLAR MODEL  WHAT'S THE PROJECTED IMPACT ON  THE MILLAGE RATE I THINK WE  SORT OF HAVE THAT I THINK THAT  WORK WAS DONE. BUT A  122 MILLION ASSUMING THE ONLY  PLACE WE CAN GO FUND THE  DIFFERENCE IS AS MILLAGE RATE  WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE. I  PERSONALLY FEEL THE NEED TO  KNOW THAT BEFORE I KNOW WHAT  DIRECTION TO GO AND I MEAN  I'VE BEEN PRETTY CLEAR WHAT I  THINK IS THE WISEST MOVE. BUT  YOU KNOW ONE 22 MILLAGE RATE  IS SUCH THAT OUR PROPERTY  OWNERS CAN TOLERATE AT THEM.  ONE 22. BUT I THINK I KNOW THE  ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.  THAT'S WHERE I'M AT ALL RIGHT.  THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER  MCDOWELL.  >> YEAH, I'VE HEARD A FEW MY  FELLOW COMMISSIONERS SAY THAT  THERE'S ROOM FOR EXPANSION ON  THIS PROPERTY.  >> I I AM NOT SEEN MAYBE CAN  DO IS GET ACTUAL NEW MAP  LAYOUT OF WHERE THIS DESIGN IS  GOING FIT ON THE PARCEL. I  KNOW THAT I HAD THERE WAS ONE  OUT IN FRONT HERE. I DIDN'T  REALLY SHOW THE ENTIRE PURSE  ONLY SHOW JUST THE AREA OF  WHERE THE WETLANDS ARE AND  WHERE THE. THE BUILDING WOULD  FIT. BUT I DIDN'T THINK IT  INCLUDED THE ENTIRE PERSONAL.  SO I THINK THAT THAT IS  IMPORTANT TO SEE BECAUSE I  DON'T KNOW WHERE THERE'S SO.  >> OUR PULLING UP CONSULT  SUPPORT THEY GAVE US.  >> WE ARE A NUMBER BUT FOR  THAT TO WHAT I READ IT I  REMEMBER TALKING ABOUT THE  SHOW FACES WHAT WAS SHIFT THE  FUTURE BILL OUT YOU KNOW  UNCOVER TALKING LAST I'M NOT  TALKING ABOUT THAT I'M TALKING  ABOUT EXPANSION. IT.  >> FROM WHAT I HEARD THEM SAY  THERE WAS EXPANSION OF LAND  AVAILABLE NOT BUILDING.  >> IT THERE AND I MAY IF WE  LOOK AT CONSULTANT REPORT  THERE WAS A MAP AND THERE THAT  SHOWED ALL THE DIFFERENT  ASSETS THAT CHIEF WANTS AND.  IT WAS THIS  ♪ IS WHY 100 MILLION GETS YOU  AND THEN THEY WAS RIGHT. YEAH,  SO YOU COULD OF SEE PLACE WITH  THE EXPANSION WOULD HAPPEN FOR  ALL THOSE VARIOUS 6 REMEMBER  IT WAS THE AREAS IN YELLOW.  >> AND IT DIDN'T EXPAND THE  AND EXPANSION OR CONTRACTION  OF  ♪ >> THE SHELL SPACE. SO THAT'S  ANOTHER ASSET.  >> I HAVE THE I HAVE THE. THAT  MINDSET PLAN BUT THEY MADE IT  SOUND LIKE THERE'S ROOM TO  EXPAND LAND NO NO THAT THAT  ISN'T AND THANKS TO I HOPE  THANK YOU THERE. IT YOU CAN  SORT OF SEE WHAT THE ONE 22  WOULD GET YOU THAT. YOU KNOW  THIS IS THE THAT'S THE 100  THIS IS GOING TAKE YOU TO THAT  YOU SEE THE LITTLE RED  EXTENSIONS ON LIKE THE GARAGE,  MY UNDERSTANDING IS AND THEN  THE YELLOW.  >> FOR SHELF SPACE. THAT'S SO  SHOWS YOU WITH THE EXPANSION  WOULD HAPPEN SO IF YOU WENT TO  THE 20 TO 50 SHE WAS SORT OF  SEE WHEN THE TIME CAME TO GO  TO THE IT. 6 5 2065. THAT'S  WHERE THE EXPANSION AREAS  WOULD BE SO ENOUGH LAND.  AVAILABLE THERE TO SPREAD OUT.  >> WAS IN THE RED YELLOW RIGHT  EVERYTHING ELSE IS WHAT YES,  SOCIAL SPACE. 9,000 SQUARE  FEET OF THE ACTUAL BUILDING  RENT.  >> YOU 20'S 4,601 LAST BREATH.  SO THERE'S LIKE THOUSANDS  RIGHT. 1000 SQUARE FEET IS  ABOUT THE SIZE OF THE WEST  VILLAGES. SUBSTATION. IT'S NOT  VERY LARGE NO IT'S NOT.  EXPANSION.  >> ABOUT MOST IS YOUR EFFORTS.  >> IT'S THE NEXT IF YOU GO  DOWN THE OTHER WAY. OTHER WENT  THEY GO. THAT'S THE RIGHT.  LOOKS LIKE FEW THINGS HAVE  BEEN CHANGED SINCE THEN.  WHAT'S THE DARK PURPLE.  COVERED PARK. WHAT'S THE PINK.  IS THERE A PINK.  >> WHAT THOSE RULES AND THE  WALKWAY IN IN THE IF YOU WANT  TO CALL CAN CAUSE THE COVER  PARK. SO IT'S THE WALKWAY TO  THE COVER PARK. I WOULD DO  WITH THAT.  >> VICE MAYOR.  >> BACK TO O 4 BILLION  DOLLARS. 4 DESIGNS SO IF I  RAY. SINCE THE DESIGN PROCESS  IS A PROCESS. IT MIGHT BEHOOVE  US TO MAKE A DECISION. OR THE  OTHER BECAUSE WE DON'T CAN'T  GET THIS BALL ROLLING AND WE  CAN CUT THAT ASSIGNED GOING  AND WE DO NEED TO DECIDE  BECAUSE ONCE WE GET THAT WE'RE  ABLE TO LOOK AT ACTUALLY THE  HARD COSTS LITTLE COST TO  BUILD THIS. BN KNOWS MAYBE WE  CAN YOU KNOW OVER THE COURSE  OF THE LIKE THE ECONOMY WILL  JUST TURN AROUND EVERYTHING  WILL COST LESS.  >> PROBABLY MAYBE THAT'S IT  HELP WE DO NEED TO GET IT SO  AGAIN THAT'S THAT'S WHAT'S  BEFORE US. I GUESS WE'VE GOT  TO DO IT AND UP OR DOWN ON  THIS BECAUSE WE CAN'T DO  ANYTHING MOVING FORWARD OUT.  >> IT'S LIKE YOU'RE ITCHING  FOR A MOTION THERE BY SAMANTHA  I WILL BE HAPPY TO MAKE A  MOTION.  >> THAT'S WHY MY LIGHT IS YOU  WANT TO GO AHEAD. OKAY.  >> I MOVED TO INSTRUCT STAFF  TO USE 4 MILLION DOLLARS FROM  THE GENERAL FUND TO COME FUND  BALANCE TO COMPLETE THE POLICE  HEADQUARTER DESIGN TO A 100%.  SECOND THAT.  >> ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION  ON FLOOR MADE BY COMMISSIONER  LANGDON CAN WE HAVE THAT  REPEATED BACK CLARITY.  >> TO INSTRUCT STAFF USE  40 MILLION FROM THE GENERAL  FUND TO ONE BOUNCE TO COMPLETE  BUST POLICE HEADQUARTERS TO A  100%.  >> THE COMPLETE THE DESIGN OF  THE NEW POLICE HEADQUARTERS TO  100%.  >> THINK YOU ALL RIGHT IN A  >> THAT'S NOT PASSED SINCE I  TREAT STRUCTURED GLASSES ON.  IT FOR KNOW WHO THAT USE IT.  >> TRANE INC AND CONSTRUCTION  PLANS AND FOR  >> ALL RIGHT BUSILY WRITING  THIS DOWN. VICE MAYOR IF YOU  WANT WITH DRIER SECOND RESTATE  THE MOTION I WILL WITHDRAW MY  SECONDS RESTATE.  >> OK, I HOPE I HAVEN'T SIDE  DRAINAGE AND CONSTRUCTION  PERMITTING. CONSTRUCTION.  DRAINAGE AND CONSTRUCTION  PLANS. AND FOR MANY OKAY. I  MOVED TO INSTRUCT STAFF.  >> TO USE FOR 1 MILLION  DOLLARS FROM THE GENERAL FUND  BALANCE TO COMPLETE THE DESIGN  OF THE. SIGNED DRAINAGE AND  CONSTRUCTION PLANS AND  PERMITTING FOR THE POLICE  HEADQUARTERS TO 100%. SECOND  THAT.  >> ALL RIGHT, LET'S JUST MAKE  SURE WE HAVE YOU GET THAT  BACK.  >> TO INSTRUCT STAFF TO USE  4 MILLION DOLLARS FROM THE  GENERAL FUND BALANCE. WHO  DESIGNED THE SITE. BUT THE  DESIGN OF THE SAINT DRAINAGE  AND CONSTRUCTION PLANS AND  PERMITTING FOR THE POLICE  HEADQUARTERS TO 100%.  >> THAT SET TO MAKE THAT WAS  SECONDED BY VICE MAYOR. SO WE  HAVE TO YEAH BOYCE  >> AND NOT ONLY THAT WE'RE  MAKING A MOTION AND WE DIDN'T  CARE ABOUT COMMENT. AND HAVE A  QUESTION TO THE MOTION. OKAY  DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT  >> WE DO HAVE ONE PUBLIC  COMMENT VANESSA HARRISON. ALL  RIGHT. PROBABLY THAT WAS AN IN  PERSON TO PERSON. YES, MA'AM  AND WE HAVE NO FURTHER PUBLIC  COMMENTS OK.  >> COMMISSIONER DOWN DO YOU  HAVE SOMETHING ELSE COMPLETE  100% OF WHAT 2065 24 25TH. THE  ORIGINAL APPROVAL WAS TO 2065.  ARE WE GOING TO BECAUSE THAT'S  GOING TO CHANGE THE DESIGN OF  THIS BUILDING IF IF IT'S 2065  OR 2050 IT'S GOING TO CHANGE  THAT. HOWEVER. CORRECT ME IF  I'M WRONG. REGARDLESS OF.  >> THE FINAL SCOPE OF THE  PROJECT. APPROVING THE  4 MILLION. WILL ONLY CHANGE  THE ULTIMATE. AND JUST SAW  OTHER WORDS. WITHIN A VERY  SHORT WINDOW OF TIME WE WILL  HARDY DOWN SCOPE OF THIS  PROJECT WELL BEFORE WE REACH  THE POINT IN THE DESIGN PHASE.  >> WHERE WHERE THEY HAVE TO.  >> FOR WHETHER IT'S ON AND  AROUND 22 WHY EARLIER ABOUT  4 MILLION BEING ACTUALLY  EXPENDED OVER PEER TO FACE  COULD TAKE A YEAR JUST TO DO I  MEAN WITHIN A MATTER OF NOT  EVEN WEEKS WE'RE GOING MAKE A  DECISION I WOULD ASSUME ON  SHOW OF THE PROJECT ARE WE  HAVE ONE 22 OR WE HAD A 100 SO  I DON'T THINK IT WILL IMPACT  ON THEIR BUT IT GETS LIKE JUST  THE WHEELS TURNING. I DON'T  THINK IT IMPACTS US ONE WAY OR  THE OTHER IF I'M CORRECT.  >> WE DO THAT TO BE TRUE, BUT  I THINK TOO IS YES, SIR.  >> I JUST CONSULTED WITH  CAPTAIN GREGORY AND FROM THE  BEGINNING THE ENGINEER  ARCHITECTURAL FIRM.  >> HAS BEEN OF MIGHT NOT THE  122 MILLION DOLLARS INSIDE. SO  THAT 4 MILLION DOLLAR PRICE  SHOULD BE SUFFICIENT FOR THE  ONE 22 MODEL OR THE  100 MILLION DON'T KNOW.  >> ONE OTHER NOTE WE WILL NEED  BRING BACK A BUDGET AMENDMENT  FOR THAT BUT ONLY TO THE  AVERAGE SO THAT WOULD BE  PROBABLY.  >> NEED  ♪ ♪ >> OKAY. ALL RIGHT WE I WENT  TO A VOICE.  >> COMMISSIONER EMERICH I'M  GOING YOU FIRST I DON'T FORGET  >> YOU HONESTLY SAY THAT YOU  WOULD FORGET ME DID YOU HEAR  THAT OKAY.  >> ALL VICE MAYOR. MAYOR WHY  I'M A YES.  >> MISSION ELECT YEAH.  >> COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL, SO  THAT PASSES 5 TO 0. I WE HAVE  TO HAVE A MOTION ON SOMETHING  ELSE. YOU SAID WE DO, ASKING.  A MANAGER.  >> DO YOU HAVE EVERYTHING YOU  NEED FROM THIS. WE  >> WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING  ABOUT PROPERTIES OF COULD PART  OF IT. NOW THAT IT. A IT'S  WHAT WE WILL BE. THAT DOING  THAT TODAY OKAY. IF THERE ARE  ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT.  THERE'S NOT. SO THERE'S  NOTHING ELSE.  >> YES WE'VE GOT ALL RIGHT, IT  IS TO 46 AND I ADJOURN THIS  MEETING.  >> AND THE TREE PROTECTION  CODE WHAT I A LOT OF WHAT I DO  IS MAKING SURE THAT  DEVELOPMENT IF THE RESIDENTIAL  OR COMMERCIAL CONFORMS TO THAT  CODE WE ALL SUCH A PASSIONATE  TEAM WE COME FROM.  >> FACT I THINK BETWEEN US WE  HAVE A 100 OF EXPERIENCE AS WE  ARE EVERY RIGHT WING TO GO OUT  AND YOU KNOW WE KNOW WHAT HE'S  CUT OUT WITH A HAPPY TO TAKE  THE CHALLENGE TO DIVISION  COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT.  >> AND LEADERSHIP IN THE CITY  WE REALLY HAVE TO MAKE GREAT  STRIDES AND PROTECTING WHAT WE  HAVE HERE AND FINDING THAT  BALANCE WITH DEVELOPMENT AND  ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP, I'M  EXCITED TO BE A PART OF THIS  TEAM